Gil's Arena - Nikola Jokic And The Nuggets Are NBA Champions

Episode Date: June 13, 2023

Nikola Jokic And The Nuggets Are NBA Champions as Gilbert Arenas and the Gil's Arena crew are here to recap the NBA Finals and put a bow on the 2023 NBA Season. Nikola Jokic proved he is the best player in the world while Jimmy Butler and The Miami Heat fell short of the goal with confidence coffee. Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GILSARENA and get a $100 first deposit match: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena Gil’s Arena premieres every Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Gil Eat em up Gil Welcome back to Gil's Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy. Woo! Season is over, but we still need them checks, so we're going to give you all more content that you love. Gil, where's the Pistons jersey. Huh? You done?

Detroit said it wasn't sufficient. They need it. No, no, no, no, no. The other ones I got to take off the wall to put it back on. You know, because my wall is all Detroit. You feel me? That was a signed Tayshaun Prince jersey. Yes.

It was. I saw the jersey. Y'all forgot you're the only man that wears autographed jerseys. Signed jerseys. That's legendary. You know what I mean? I saw that you're like y'all forgot you're the only man that wears autographed jerseys Mean how's everybody feeling after that marvelous Nuggets championship turned up all night Time to move on They was turnt up out in Denver though, apparently. That was a bad shooting last night.

Yeah, motherfuckers was out there popping off. Sheesh. Guns are everywhere. Act like you been here before Denver, shit. What y'all know? But this is Gil's Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy as always. Got the legend Gilbert Arenas in the building. Got Brandon Jennings and his dog Freedom.

Woof woof. And Miko Grimes back here with us. I with us. So we got some things to talk about today. Nuggets won their first chip in franchise history but will there be more bling in their future? We will see. Heat will run up for the second time since 2020. What moves do they need to make to get over that hump? And would the Pelicans ever consider trading Zion? There's been some rumblings they're trying to get one of those top two or three picks to get scoop would they give zion the boot we will discuss but before we get into that as always this show is presented to you by underdog fantasy so if you

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We push everybody else out to paint. Nice little sweater. Brie shirt. What is it? WNBA. God damn it, Gilbert. Oh, that's the logo?

I can't stand you, okay? I'm fucking I just watched the game. I don't know what this is. You know what? Show us some respect. Who is it? But who is it? Who's the person? I don't know who's the... You know what? Show some respect. Who is it?

But who is it? Who's the person? I don't know who the person is, but that's been the logo. Like, in orange is the... But who's the person? Somebody they're not paying like Jerry West, I would imagine.

Probably not, yeah. They not Lisa Leslie or somebody. It should be Lisa Leslie. I am curious to know who that is, though. Yeah, now we wanna know. Yeah. So there used to be rumblings that it was Sue Bird, but no official answer.

Sue Bird was in the NBA. She was in the NBA when it came out. The WNBA. Was she in the WNBA? But this logo has been retooked. Show some respect. Orange makes my skin pop, so I had to really show love to the W. At least Celeste should be.

At least Celeste should be. The dunk. Whoever it is. The dunk. Now you can have the dunk. The dunk. You gotta give hope. You gotta give hope.

Whoever it is, I guarantee the league is not paying no royalties just like they did Jerry West. That's shady. Give Jerry a bag. That's why he's so salty for everybody who watched Winning Time. Great show. Season 2 is about to start. Great. Can't wait. Can't wait. We need Winning Time to give us a bag to promote their show as well. We accept bags from everybody Winning bring some of the actors on through here

Well, you know the one that plays the double for magic who's the basketball Sherman She said the double the double. I mean he's playing like the actor guys not doing all the basketball. There's another guy Which one do you name? His name's Jen. Okay. Sherman Gay out there too doing some magic body doubling. What? That's important. You want the body double.

The one no one actually knows is doing it. I just said I know him. I didn't say I wanted him on. We bring him on here and he'll be like, who the hell is this? The double double of the double. I mean, they're all wearing the same prosthetic stuff. It's not their real self anyway. No, but what I know. I'm like, who the hell is this? The double-double of the doubles. I mean, they're all wearing the same prosthetic stuff. It's not their real self anyway. No, but what I know, but we know the actor. We don't know the person.

You know, like Vin Diesel has. Fine, I don't know him. He has a body double. The body double will go around like, yeah, I'm Vin Diesel. I just know the hoop. I'm Vin Diesel. You might. Just know the guy that can actually hoop.

Okay, all right. You got the hooper. You got the hoop and that's the actor. And he'd probably be better on the show because he knows that fall he played basketball So it'd be better to have him I think since he can actually who Wherever it is HBO give us a bag HBO max max whatever y'all calling ourselves now. We take bags We're trying to keep the lights on. You know what, I've been forgetting how to try to, you always remind me every time. I knew he was gonna say that though.

I'm gonna get how trifling you are. Like we want the guy. No, I was just asking, I mean, it's like, we'll be sitting here and be like, yeah. Who are you? Yeah, I'm the double for the double of magic. He's an actor also, but he's a hooper. He's a hooper.

Supporting, you know? Yeah, he can talk basketball with us. The other guy can talk acting. You want to just act her on here? No, you don't. Listen, I got to understand. I understand. So we talked about Zion last week.

Hold on. So like the white man can't jump, right? We know Wesley couldn't play basketball. So we're talking about the dude's, like the back of the dude's head, right? That dude. Hold on, that wasn't Wesley? No. No, that wasn't him. Wesley Wesley? No. No, that wasn't him. Wesley was just feet.

He was just all over. No, I wasn't even feet at all. Go back and watch White Man Can't Jump and notice every time Wesley is straight, neck down, on the legs, like my pops was in that movie. And he said they did a training camp before they started filming. And Wesley would be doing the drills,

but he was so bad at the drills that nobody wanted to do the drills with him. So it was like three-man weaves and shit. So when it was his turn, all the guys would start hiding. And he kind of figured out and started cussing them all out. Like, man, what the hell are you doing? Nobody want to... See?

See, you don't want the actor. See what I mean? That's what I mean. But you know... You can't even hook. So we got the dude who did the layups, but nobody knows who he is. Well, let's help him become somebody. All right.

Now. Why we can't help him? I'm just saying, all right. And producer wanted you to know they also had a stunt double for Cisco when he was dribbling in a movie. What movie was it? Cisco?

The Drew Hill Cisco? He said it was a bad movie called Get Over It, but nonetheless. Drew Hill Cisco? Yeah. It's important. You want the basketball to look authentic. Sometimes your actor may not have the skill set required to accomplish it.

But we talked about Zion Williams last week on the show. Zion Williamson last week on the show. A little unfavorable. I think he's still dealing with that Twitter drama. The rant has continued. It's spilled over into this week. His credit sign is just maintained. Kept his head straight. Donated money to the kids. You know what I mean?

Taking those donations, pushing them elsewhere. But according to the kids, you know what I mean, taking those donations, pushing them elsewhere. But according to Shams, the Pelicans are interested in trading for a top two or three pick in this draft to potentially land Scoot Henderson. So all talking about Wimby, Scoot can go too. Pelicans thinking about it. So now there's speculation as to what they would trade to get that done. One potential option could be moving the former number one overall pick. So before his injury, Zion was killing, man. He was averaging 26-7 in five assists,

but he only played 29 games this season. He's only played 114 games, I believe, in the past three seasons. So Gil, I'll start with you. Should the Pelicans consider trading Zion? When he plays, man, he's so productive. And it's just like anything. Like, you don't want to be the team that trades him, and then he finally gets his shit together, right? You've already paid him. It's like, you might as well wait it out.

Like, you know, it's your mistake to hold on to, but you don't want to be but you don't want to be... You don't want to trade him for Scoot and then he finally gets healthy and then he becomes everything that you envision. It's one of those moves where you probably just have to be stubborn as shit and just sink with the shimp as it goes. I think you should ask him. If he wants to be here. just sink with the chimp as it goes? I mean, I think you should ask him.

Like, you know what I'm saying? If he wants to be here, if he sees his future here, if he sees himself, you know, being here for, you know, the rest of his career, I think it's fair to ask him at this point what he's going through, not playing. Maybe another team, maybe another state or something can, you know, a whole new beginning could give him something different. I think they should get rid of him because he's already had plenty of opportunities.

Me personally, he came in out of shape. He doesn't look like he has the kind of body that can withstand 82 games if he doesn't, like, shred a little bit. And he hasn't. Like, he literally hasn't shred at all. Like, he's still a big meatball. And I think that's the problem.

He can play productive in 20-something games. He can't do it in 80 at that weight. And if they in the organization haven't figured out a way to get to him, to get him in shape, then maybe he doesn't even want to listen to them at all. And they should just cut their losses like this isn't the right place for him. Maybe go to Miami where they get weighed in every day, where he has to stay in shape, where he has to stay in shape, where he has to be accountable for his body,

somewhere where there's no compromise at all, might help him. We gotta go to New Orleans, I mean, too much crawfish. But I mean, who's stupid enough to take that anyway? So Zion signed a five year, $194 million deal, I think last summer. Five year, $194. He's got think, last summer. Five-year, $194. He's got a bag coming to him.

He already stole it. That's cheap compared to... I mean, he only played 100-something games. I mean, he only played 100-something games, though. Yeah, he hasn't even played. But I think you should ask him, though. But 26-6 and 5? 27-6 and 5?

26-7 and 5. He plays a quarter of a seed each year. Five assists? 29 games. Yeah, he was doing his thing. Yeah. I didn't know he had five assists. Highly productive.

The Pelicans was cooking early in the season. Look at Gil. He's like, ooh. That's what I said. I think you should ask him, though. You should ask him and see where he's at. I would lie and say, yeah, I'm good right here. Just keep stealing money.

You get the money anyway. Yeah, I'm about to say, anyway. It's just, do you want be here, do you wanna play? But you're gonna get paid. You're getting paid so well. But as time goes on, he's not gonna be able to keep getting these deals if he's not working out anywhere else, you know?

Well, they're not gonna give him nothing big either then. No, what I'm saying is if he keeps getting hurt and then that contract year, he go out there and play 80 games He getting new bag one year. He did just one year at the white time So I don't know if I'm another team. I'm giving up what the number two pick with that MJ them Hornets or uh, when it's a blazer, I believe have the number three pick Yeah, Hornets got the number two Blazers got the third so Yeah, what are you getting in return for Zion, I guess, is the other question we should ask. I mean, if you're Michael Jordan, is that a deal you want to do?

Like, you're giving up an eight. Your team is young. You're giving up an 18-year-old kid who does damn near the same shit. Who, Brandon Miller? Scoot. You know, Scoot wouldn't go to Charlotte. You think Brandon Miller? Scoot. You know, Scoot wouldn't go to Charlotte. You think Brandon Miller's going? Yeah. That's the report that Brandon Miller would be number two in Charlotte. How tall is Brandon Miller?

6'8". 6'8", 20 years old. I mean, I would do the grade if I'm Charlotte, because you ain't doing nothing. It's the same thing every year, no matter how young they are and you know. 6'9", listed as, but as we know. Okay, so he's 6'9". You know, allegedly.

No, he's really 6'9", Dan. The box, I think. In the NBA. Those caps, it's usually about an inch off. Not on guys like him. Did y'all lie about your height? Did y'all put that off? Hell yeah, I put 6'2". Yeah, see Garnt, 6'all lie about your height? Hell yeah, I put 6'2".

6'2"? Hell yeah. It's always an inch or so. Small guards that want to be 6-something, and then it's the power fours that are like 6'8", they're trying to be 6'10". Yeah, for sure. But kids who are long, right,

they don't really care because it doesn't matter. Kevin Durant, oh, I'm 6'9". But if you look at his NBA combine, he was 6'10 1⁄2 without his shoes on. In the combine. So when he walked into the combine, 6'10 1⁄2, I don't even know where the fuck they got 6'9 from. They probably got that at a high school and never just put it. Steve Nash was like 6'3".

Like, Steve Nash just tossed me. Like, okay, let me get this next year, I'm 6'2". Yeah, like Chris Paul, I'm 6'1 1⁄2", 6'3". Yeah. Like, Steve Nash just tossed me. Like, okay, let me get this next year, I'm 6'2". Yeah, like Chris Paul, I'm 6'1 and a half, 6'2". Like, it's the guards who do it, but your wings, your wings, those like, the Jason Tatums and all those guys, they're always bigger than what you think they are. Yeah. So back to Zion, when we talk about the Pelicans potentially exploring trade options for Zion, is it a bad time to try to move him,

considering everything that's been going on, and just him not playing for the bulk of the back half of the season? Or are they better off letting him cook early in the season next year than trying to make a move? Well, you want to trade him now. If you're going to trade him, you want to trade him in the summer.

You don't want to wait till the season starts, because if he's cooking and y'all start winning, are you trying to trade him then? That's true. So if you're going to him in the summer, you don't want to wait till the season starts because if he's cooking and y'all start Winning are you trying to trade him then? So if you're gonna try to trade for him and it'd be now While the name is hot While the name is on fire, but you know at the end days like you're gonna get a guy who hasn't played win Before all-star break it's been a. And then obviously he's done gained, we can just say he's done gained another 10, 15, 20 pounds.

Yeah. Right, it's not like every time we see him, we be like, shoo. Shoof. We never seen him like, oh shit, he about to get the, nah, it's always like. You would think with all the sex he's having, you know, a little cardio.

Allegedly, allegedly. Maybe he's a pillow princess. He just laying there and letting them do all the work. It's 12 calories. Every day we're one day closer to getting the showcase. But I appreciate y'all.

So we're going to rock out while we're here. Miko, you mentioned the heat maybe as a potential option. But obviously, you know, the heat culture, stringent body checks. Yeah. You know, it could go, stringent body checks. Yeah.

You know, it could go one of two ways. But what other teams do you think would be a good fit for Zion? You can go to New York and pull that shit over there. Go to New York Knicks. They'll either boom out of the building or not. But it has to be a team that has – I mean, it's about the programming inside the arena, right? That's demanding greatness. Spurs.

Oh, yeah, Spurs. You can go Spurs. You can go Heat. Who else has, like... Heat would be good. Yeah. I like the Heat. Who else has like? Heat would be good. Yeah. I like the heat. Who else has like structure like that?

Golden State. Golden State. Golden State. Golden State. Like it's like a, like you're talking about a team that actually does this. Golden State doesn't sound bad. Yeah.

A team that does this for good. Like this is what we do. We get our players better. We make sure they're in shape. You know, he has, you know. Well, Golden State, the money, I don't know. Can they afford him? That contract?

They're billionaires, come on. Come on. They got pockets full of it. You know what I mean? It's pocket change to them. Okay. I know the Heat can afford it easily. They ain't only paying, what you call them?

What you call them, YMCA players? Yeah, YMCA. They ain't spending their money nowhere else, so. Yeah, they can afford it. And just in terms of Zion's future longevity, how many games do we need to see Zion play next season? I know season just ended, but- The NBA says 60.

See, I was gonna say 50. No, it says 60 for all NBA. Yeah, it was 65, right? Or any award, right? Yeah, you just ended. The NBA says 60. See, I was going to say 50. No, it says 60 for all NBA or any award, right? 65, right? Yeah, you need 65. So you need to see Zion 65 games next season? You feel like that'll be... It's normal. To be all NBA?

But I'm saying just to be a durable player and believe in his future. Listen, if he plays 65 games, he's getting paid again. All NBA, that's what, I mean, isn't that what he's supposed to be? All NBA player? Yeah. But not even for all NBA awards. Just saying in general. 65.

60. Every player. They have a good roster, too. They're a good group of guys there, too. It would be nice to see him during the full season and see what they could do because they almost made it into the playoffs this year. Yeah. They're him away.

That's all they need is him. Yeah. If they have him, they're in there. That's all they need is him. If they have him, they're in there. Like they don't have nothing to worry about, but. It's like, what are they doing right now? Pelicans were literally top seed in the West back in December for.

What I'm saying is, okay, he hasn't played, right? What is he, what have they been doing? Yeah, like every day to get him ready. Like every day, like even if he doesn't play this year, he wasn't gonna play this year. If y'all seen him under my watch, he would be 40, 50 pounds less. Yeah. Like there's things you can do in the pool.

Then you're going to swim fucking 10 miles. You're going to be Michael Phelps around this bitch. He got to want to do it. You're going to be Michael Phelps. I'm finding you. You're going to be Michael Phelps around here. Maybe the organization can't pull it out of him. The you see him You're like, oh shit Zion who that? That's the way he laid up in that bitch right there

That's but if he's not gonna play if you're like if you had a point where you wasn't playing on playing It should be all conditioning right now getting ready for yes shredding getting ready for October training care You'll be in shred mode right now. We'll be, that motherfucker be in that swimming pool. Like, you can't use your knees right now? Cool. Drop that motherfucker in the middle of the ocean. Survive, goddammit.

Survive, motherfucker. Make it back to school. You just gonna have to tread water, goddammit, for hours. I don't give a fuck what you're talking about. You're gonna lose those 20 pounds today. You know, I'm curious to see like, what's his pro what's his schedule though? Like, like what is his schedule that they're doing?

In the NBA? Like the team schedule. We can tell you when, while you're in the NBA, the teams is focused and the trainers is focused on the players that's active in it. So they ain't doing shit they're really doing with him. He coming in for like the hour, hour and a half. They got him on a treadmill or something.

Got him on a little bike. So he need to bring his own guy then. His own guy. He needs a mentor. He needs an older player of that to maybe help him. Maybe he doesn't know like oh I need to get my own player Maybe you know, I don't know what what they're saying to him But sometimes these guys don't know what to do and you know how to go off on your own and get the things that you need See you big fella going to take me later. Survival of the fittest.

Survival of the fittest. Come on, man. But it seemed like even an issue because, you know, we've been doing this show since February. The reports are going to be a week away, two weeks away. He's ramping back up, all that shit. The next thing you know, just deuces. He's on the sideline in a bad outfit.

I think that, to be honest. Eddie Winslow. I don't like the teams either when they do that shit. Like the shit they did with Hero, right? That's horrible. Like you know he's not ready, but you're putting it out there, which means the fans can turn on him for not coming back.

It's gamesmanship though. They do that just to like mess with the other team. Nah, that only messes with the player. They don't care. And the fans. Yeah, the fans. Right? Like the players is looking like, you ain't gonna get off the bench? Oh, you, you, like. Then you pick him

to score and all that kind of stuff and he's not even gonna play. That's why you take the lower. Any of those situations. Listen, that shit said five and a half points. I'm not paying attention. I'm not paying attention to him, man. Take that lower. I lost all three. But you tried, Gil, okay? It's better to have tried. Remember I thought I won all the greens?

You put the old one up? Yeah, it turned all red. Yeah, I lost mine. We still try an underdog, alright? We need to bring underdog resident expert Justin Phan onto the show to really help us cook for next season because we're getting this bread back. Enjoy it for now. Is there tennis? Is there tennis?

Yes. We can make it. Oh, I'm on that. I'm on that. Yeah, I didn't, I've picked two. It's everything. I've picked two, lost both. Oh, I could do tennis. There's like something about faults and shit.

I don't know. I was just desperate. I was just desperate. I was like, ah, OK, under. I didn't try some baseball. I'd be trying anything. I think I could cook on the tennis one. I got to look at that one. Help us cook too, all right?

30 plays. Help us help you. So let's keep this thing moving and shaking. So Nuggets are the 2023 NBA champions. We already know that. But it's never too early to look towards next year. Trae Young got the ball rolling with this tweet. Oh, my God.

Oh, my God. They're, we next. The comments were disgusting. Yo, they cooked him. We next. Yeah. They cooked him. Yeah.

I don't know why. What you mean? What? You think they're next? Because when Trae... Yo, they cooked him. Yeah. They cooked him. Yeah. I don't know why. What you mean? You think they're next? Because when Trey's next? They didn't say what team. That's what I'm saying. When Trey said we, did he mean the Atlanta Hawks we or we next?

He could have really fucked up everybody's head if he would have put a purple and gold heart next to it. Ooh, that's the thing. That would have been disrespectful too, though. We next! That's confident. That too though. We next! That's confident, that's bold. Right. He didn't say what team.

He didn't say what team. He could have manifested that. Cuz is he supposed to be getting traded? Yeah, we don't know. It's a rumor. We next, right? You already know. Yeah. We next, baby.

Yeah. But what did y'all think when y'all saw that in all sincerity? Cuz the internet was packing them up, cooking them. Was it leave that in the drafts or is it appropriate time to put that just to steer the pot and trow a little bit? Well, if you're up for trade or you don't want to be where you are, that's a terrible time to do that. Like it'd be different if he already got moved or he knew he was moving. You're still with a franchise that we know is not next. We know that.

And you say that, it's just kind of, you're just opening yourself up to get cooked. Yeah, that's something I would do. But I would have done some shit like that too. I mean, but, well, I mean, he didn't mention the team, so we don't really know. To me, it's like, well, you know, I'm just throwing it out there that whatever it is, you know, whatever y'all heard.

Who's we did? Me and who? We're going to see. We're going to see what we is. But I'm throwing it out there that whatever it is, you know, whatever y'all heard. Who's we did? Me and who? We're going to see. We're going to see what we is. But I'm throwing it out there. You see what they be throwing? Everybody be throwing it out there. I mean, right now, this is the perfect time for the NBA.

This is our time. This is the drama. Everybody's waiting on something. I had some spice. You know, it was an underwhelming finals. Love great basketball. Don't call me a casual, but you know, it's been nice to see the Lakers in there. But Miko, you said it's a bad idea for Trey to

do it, but maybe it's a good idea just from the standpoint, if his name is swirling in trade rumors and there's been talks about, I believe in this Hawks team and I'm going to do what it takes to get us over the hump. We could be going to the Suns, then Walgreens, Lakers, Miami, you know. Did he buy a house in LA recently? Yeah, he got a house here. He hit running the beach in Malibu. Shit, that's close to us.

Try to pull up. It's your Adidas brethren. I got it. You got to start using your Adidas plugs. I got it. Yeah, apparently start using your Adidas plugs. Brethren. I got it. Yeah. Apparently he has a $20 million home.

We don't pocket watch, but a $20 million home in Calabasas. I feel like you letting us down. Right down the street. Not using your Adidas plug to get Trey into this arena. Right down the street. Shoes are baller too. I'm going to be real. They're feeding me info.

My here's got seven bedrooms, 11 bathrooms, so we could just bring the arena. I know, shit. Hey, Trey. Let us pull up, Trey. We got the crew here. When you get in town, let's go ahead and let it win it out a little bit. But the Hawks got a bloated salary cap and are committing way too much bread to a playing-level team that got bounced in the first round.

Trey is on the books for $40 million next season. His deal runs through 2027, but he's got a player option that year, so it could be as early as 2026. How likely is it that Trey stays with the Hawks? He doesn't want to be there. I don't think it's likely at all. That's what I've learned about the NBA players.

And Marina's too close. I don't think he'll finish his contract there. They'll be trying to dump at some point to get ready for something that's coming in 2026, 2027. So they'll try to trade him to get space somewhere. So I don't see him finishing his contract there. What about the Quinn Snyder move?

Obviously bringing in a solid coach with a solid resume, playoff experience. Does that help sway at all, keeping Trey in Atlanta? No. No. No. Because I mean, you know, you know, I don't know where he's at in his development.

But, I mean, you know, there's going to need some type of new... You know, some players just need new atmospheres, seeing something new, right? I don't think he's valued over there. Needs to be in a city where when he comes into that arena, he knows he's an NBA player. Atlanta ain't it. You know, that's Falcons territory. The arena's too close, man.

Falcons, rappers. Yeah. There's like a damn rap concert in there. And when you go there, you know, it's like, all right. Playing in front of certain rappers certain rappers ain't the same. Shit don't hit. It don't hit. Nah, it might.

They in there, it's like... Is that probably the one city, like the basketball fans, they don't have basketball fans like that? To me, I feel like every time we go in Atlanta, it's not basketball fans. No, it's parties. Yeah, it's like a big ass lounge. Nobody's there to see. That lounge upstairs on that second, oh, that shit is lit. Nobody's even watching the game.

Everybody's just up there socializing, drinking, kicking it, playing cards. People will be sitting there playing. Like a damn jazz festival. Yeah. So we got close to 5,000 people in the chat right now, but the producers want me to let y'all know y'all are too horny right now.

Tone it down. Who's horny? The chat is saying some wild shit, Miko. I'm out of respect for your stuff. Oh, the chat is horny. The chat is, yeah. What are they saying? Deserthirst.

Is it about me? Deserthirst. Somebody requested that you do jumpy jacks. I mean, I've seen some Deserthirst coming from the chat, but I count them. Just to make sure the number's right. You know, I don't know. Did they say 10? 5? I don't know. Just got to make sure the number's right. You know, I don't know. Did they say 10?

5? I don't know. Just got to make sure the count's right. You know? Yeah. We don't want you cheating our audience. And they said at Hawks games, they got a dude that'll come in and test your jewelry to make sure

they're diamonds. Yes, they do. Yes. See, that's what I'm saying. See what I'm saying? Like, come on, man. Let's get you. No.

You know what's funny? We doing it. Like, come on, man. I followed him on social media. That is so funny. Dudes know they bought their girl fake diamonds, and he has a camera, microphone, everything. And they would really be like, yeah, test it. Right in front of the girl.

And it's fake as shit. Like, why would you set yourself up like that? They gotta get Trey up on that. Come on, Trey. Come on, man. Get Trey to somewhere else, man. This is crazy. Get him to LA.

Lake Cho. Yeah. And you think Trey would be... We talked about this before. Hell yeah him to LA. Lake Cho. Yeah. And you think Trey would be, we talked about this before. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Good fit, great fit. Hell yeah.

That pick and roll, baby. That pick and roll. Got it thrown between the legs. Got the lob. I wouldn't mind seeing that. I really wouldn't mind seeing that. If Trey come here, he might have a chance to be the best point guard Lakers ever had. I mean, outside of magic.

About to say, oof. Outside of magic? Yeah, outside of magic. We have a point guard. Like a point guard that's. Yeah. No. No Yeah, outside of Magic. We have a point guard. But like a point guard that's... What about the Bum? No. That's just us.

We put him at point. He initiates the offense. I know. But like, yeah. Since Magic, I think he would be the most hyped point guard we had since then. I just want to see it. I want to see the pick and roll. What about Nick Van Exel?

Nick the Quick? Ooh. No, no, no, no. Nick was nice. Cancun on three. Hey, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,'s where Cancun came from? Yeah, yeah. One, two, three, Cancun on three. Yeah, like I'm out of here. He was gone right after that. Yeah, fuck on out of here.

Reasonable man. Good vacation destination. So let's talk about the Nuggets. I know Mike Malone's watching the show right now. He's probably been salty for the last 30 minutes that we haven't showed him the love that him and his team deserve. It is what it is. Yeah, he was so in his feelings the whole playoff. How come you guys are talking about my team?

Don't ask me stupid questions. Like, nigga, shut up. Be thankful that you're still here. Yeah. He did have a point. It's the media. He did have a point, though. That's why they ask stupid questions.

He did have a point. Like, literally nothing about them. It was always about whoever they were playing against. And even in the finals, all I kept hearing about is even they were snuffing Miami, they just kept talking about Miami, kept talking about them. It was always about whoever they were playing against. And even in the finals, all I kept hearing about is, even they were snuffing Miami, they just kept talking about Miami. Kept talking about Miami. What can they do? There's no personality

on Denver. Yeah. Like, we don't know nothing about Denver. Like, nothing. You don't know anything about Denver. I know, but the reality is, exactly, what can Miami do? It's like we, it's like you see this lopsided team, and you're like, what can we do to beat it? Right.

It was like, everyone was rooting for Miami, like knowing that they really didn't have a chance. We were trying to figure out how to give them a chance. Like, you know, maybe if they, maybe if they double. Kevin loves starting. Maybe if they, you know what, maybe if the refs allow six players on the court. Like, we're just trying, just saying anything because Denver just. They were unmatched. Sometimes we got to lie to keep y'all's attention, all right?

Not me, I didn't lie. I didn't either. You were a Heat fan for like a good two-day window. I told you they was an ABCD team, right? Early Michael Jackson, right? A, B, C. Yeah, I told you that's who they were from the beginning. Yeah.

We just had Brandon and Rashad over there going. We had one, and then we had the cosigner just. Yeah. How did you get on that bandwagon, man? How did you get there? I was just like everybody else in the world. Figure it out. Try to do something.

Luckily, they got one game. Even after that, though, they went home and it was like, oh, this is nasty. Nasty. The Nuggets entered their 46th season drought, securing their first championship Monday night, the gentlemen's sweep of the Heat. Let's talk about Joker a little bit. Joker had one of the most dominant playoff runs ever. NBA record 10 triple doubles.

First player ever to lead all players in points, rebounds, and assists throughout the playoffs. Combined 52.9 average of points, rebounds, and assists. This postseason, the second most in league history behind Wilt. And then in the finals, he continued to cook. First 30-20-10 game in finals history. And finished the finals with averages of 13.2 points, 14 rebounds, 7.2 assists, 1.4 steals. Shooting 58.3% from the field.

So Gilstar, where do we put this Jokic playoff run all time? Well, I mean, I can't go back to, you know. The ancient. I can't go back all, you know. The ancient, I'll do that. I can't go back all the way back then, so. To the ancestors? Me visually looking at it, and understanding basketball, is probably him or Shaq. From me, I didn't really, the concept of what Michael Jordan and

Magic were doing, I wasn't processing it like I am now. So I'll just say yes, what he's done throughout the playoffs is top. Okay, as far as the big man? Period, I mean, you have a big, he averaged 30 for the far as the big man? Period. I mean, you have a big... He averaged 30 for the season? For the playoffs? Yes.

So he's scoring the same as like two points under Michael Jordan? The fuck? Yeah. Rebounding like Shaq and fucking passing like a point guard. It has to be. And we talked about Shaq versus Joker last week. I fucked up. Yeah, you did. But y'all let me fuck up. I was testing y'all to just make sure that talked about Shaq verse Joker last week. I fucked up. Yeah, you did

But y'all let me fuck up y'all was testing y'all to just make sure that you knew Shaq's resume But that 99-2000 finals run he averaged 38 17 rebounds 2.3 assists 17 rebounds Jokers in the 14 range, but Joker Morris is up. 38, 17. 38, 17. Yeah, all right. But players fuck up too. I'll take that one. I mean, you compare it to that, yeah.

I think the reason I say that Joker's was better is because of the position. Like, he's doing things that guards normally do. Shaq needed somebody to pass him the ball. You know what I'm saying? He's actually passing two players, creating more points than he's, you know, his own points are already high.

And now he's creating points for other people. So it's like, that's, we've never seen that. What did Kobe average in that finals? 99, 2000. Let me pull it up. 27, I think. 99, 2000. 38 and 17 out of the triangle, it's crazy.

So you're only 15, five and four in that 99, 2000 finals. Then the next year he was 20, 25, eight and six. Wait, Kobe first year was 15? 15. Yeah. Hmm. Different? I didn't know that.

But the janky ass is kinda low. But the janky ass is kinda low. That's kinda low, huh? You know what makes kinda Jokers different? Yeah You know what makes kind of Joker's different because he had to do it from everywhere Yeah, you know it's it's a it's you're doing it from everywhere Like you're posting about the the free throw line like you guys like it's it's a little bit different with Shaq Like it's you're in the paint right these triangle. They try to high side They're gonna throw a baseline you're gonna dunk if they yeah? He's triangle, they try to high side, they're gonna throw baseline, you're gonna dunk. All your points is coming from there,

but it's still your dominance. And what did Shaq shoot also? Probably like 80%. Go back. Let's see. Hold on. So the year he averaged 38, he shot, hold on, what's that? 61% from the field. Look at this, so look, Sha that? 61% from the field. Look at this.

So look, Shaq shot 61% from the floor, mostly in the paint. And Joker did it everywhere. 58.3. From everywhere. That's crazy. Different game. It's the same basketball game, but it's a different player doing different things. It's new.

He's pulsing up, swinging. He also shot 42% from three, too. Let's keep it real on four attempts. Bam. It's a bad motherfucker. That's, you know, my vote is Joker. Joker got my vote. Sorry, no shade.

It's tough, but just given the racial climate of the country, everything going on, it's tough, you know. The racial climate. But when we say, is he the best big man, right, the question is overall. When you overall, yes. In scoring, no, right? Right. You're going to have, obviously, Embiid is a better scorer than him.

If they played head of head, Embiid would bust his ass. Giannis would bust his ass on the style. But would he bust Giannis' ass too? Wait, you talking about one on one? If he played, if he had- One on one is not- I mean, yeah, Shaq would kick his ass too. But they don't play basketball one on one. I know, but I'm saying- But Shaq would have to guard Joker too,

right? That's what they're talking about. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. You gotta come back down here and guard this. Yeah, but if you play- And I'm gonna do this right here every time. Yeah, but if you play on like a, but if you're talking about like overall and you had to pick one, you know, besides Shaq, you're really looking at Hakeem. Hakeem ain't pulling out to the three.

Hakeem ain't sitting here. But like if you shut, if you shut Hakeem, if you shut Hakeem down from scoring, Shaq down from scoring, they didn't have no other thing to go to. That's the problem with Jokers. He doesn't have bad games because, for the most part, 20 is a bad game with 17 assists and 15 rebounds. He ain't playing against nobody. He ain't playing against nobody, though.

His competition is weak. Whose competition is weak? Joker's competition is weak. As far as bigs? What can he do about that? What can he do about that? But I'm just saying, his competition, he ain't going against nobody though. His competition is weak. Whose competition is weak? Joker's competition is weak. As far as bigs? What can he do about that? What can he do about that? But I'm just saying, his competition,

he ain't going against nobody. But if he did go against Shaq, what is Shaq stopping? What is he stopping from Shaq? Nothing. Okay, so it's, okay, and then you got the next night, Hakeem.

Then the next night, it's better bigs than it is in this era. The era of bigs are trash. But it says, even with the bigs, they only did one thing. That's fine. If you did stop them somehow, they didn't have no other element.

But nobody's stopping Shaq, so it's not a if they can. You can't. I stopped him. You can't stop Shaq. I got him in foul trouble. Sit down. Let's stop. And he can't even make free throws. Like I said, Shaq is still going to get hit. No, no, no. Shaq, that's why I always stop Shaq. I got him in foul trouble. Sit down. Let's stop. And he can't even make free throws. Like I said, Shaq is still going to get hit.

No, no, no. Shaq, that's why I always take Shaq. And then we're going to act like 8 ain't playing with him. So let's bring the whole team in. Let's bring the whole team in now. But that's what you got. If you guys were starting an organization, let's just say Shaq in his prime, Joker in his prime, you know what you know, but they're still in their prime.

And you were starting your team, and you were getting your five. Which Shaq are we talking about, though? The one, the 38 one. The 38-13. How old was that Shaq? I don't know. I got to see the age. Shaq, 23?

No, 99. Shaq was 33? Hold on one second. If we're taking Orlando, Shaq, you know what I mean? I don't know if I can get that one up. Laker, Shaq. I think Shaq was 27. Oh, wait, 28.

Laker, Shaq. 28, 99, 2000. And Joker, right in these last three years. Which one would you want as your center starting your team? Sha wait, 28. Lakers Shaq. 28, 99, 2000. And Joker, right in these last three years. Which one would you want as your center starting your team? Shaq was 28. No one would you know? I'm not going here. Joker's 28 too, so 28-year-old Joker.

28 and 28 Shaq. Shaq or 28-year-old Joker. Ooh, how much did Shaq average that season? 38, 14. That was a playoff. I don't think Joker want to see an elbow to the face from Shaq or 28-year-old Joker? Ooh. How much did Shaq average that season? 38-14. I got him killed. That was a playoff. I don't think Joker want to see an elbow to the face from Shaq. No, but that's what I'm saying. He's not going to stop him.

But you have to think about two of them. But one thing is if we double and corral Shaq as a team, we can stop him. Yes, as a team. There's no team that can stop Joker. So Shaq averaged 30-14-4 that season and played 79 games. He won his first MVP that year. It's a tough call, but I'm thinking Joker. I'm going to go with Shaq because it makes you change your lineups.

It makes you change your lineups for Shaq. You're going to have to put in a whole bunch of sorry-ass bigs just to keep a body on him. With Jokic, you can't double. You really can't do anything because he can pass. So it's like combining Magic Johnson and Kareem. What are you really doing? So this season, Joker averaged 25, 12, and 10. 9.8, but we're going to round up on this show.

No, we're not rounding up. We're not rounding up. We can't round up? We're not rounding up. We round down? What. We can't round up? We're not rounding up. We round down? What do we do? We're keeping it 9.8. There's only two people that's had triple doubles and they both black men.

Oh, what the fuck is wrong with that? What? Why is this a race thing? What? Why is it a race thing? It's just hoop. It's just hoop. Yeah.

Well, I'm wearing zero, so I'm not going to let you just throw in a whole other person and then, no, no, no, no. So if he was black, you would round up? If he was wearing zero, I would round up. It's not a racial thing, it's a number thing. It's a number thing. Gotta wear zero. I'm not going to let y'all disrespect what Russell did.

Oh my God. I'm not just going to let you giving them weak ass stats compared to Russell's. Got it, got it. Weak ass. What did you say, 22 what? 25. Yeah, it's weak. Got it. Weak ass. What'd you say? 22 what? 25. Yeah, it's weak. 31-11.

So we talked about if Joker got to guard Shaq, but if Shaq had to stay on Joker, would Joker get Shaq in foul trouble too? He wouldn't get him in foul trouble. He's pulling his ass in. He's about one on one. Joker's getting in foul trouble right from the jump. He's about one on one. Going in there and I'm hitting you right in your fucking chest and I'm going right over He's about one on one or two.

I'm just saying if they had to guard each other. And they actually had to guard each other. And another thing about Shaq, if he was to come out. You don't have to come out half 50. Yeah, if he was to come out. And what do you think Shaq will have? No, but think about this though. If Shaq was trying to guard Joker and they set a screen and Shaq had to pick up Murray. You got to come back down. He's in trouble. No, no, no. What I'm saying is with Shaq, right, we can actually go double and try to get the ball out of his hands.

Even though he's going to. Shaq can pass out the double. Right. No. Not once he bounces. Come on. No. Once he bounces, boom.

It's done. Shaq is one of the most skilled big guys. No, no. Skill. Offense himself. Listen. He can pass out the double. I'll take the Orlando Shaq over anybody.

Yeah. Had that tornado spin. Ah! I'm taking the Orlando Shaq over anybody. Had that tornado spin. Ah! I'm taking the Shaq when he got with Phil Jackson. Nah, I mean the first year? The last two runs. But with Joker, Joker had 50 because Shaq's not coming out of the paint. And if he do come out of the paint, it's over.

Barbecue chicken. We coming in there. Shaq in there, we coming in there. Backdoor cuts. But back then, you got that Laker team Ron Harper who else a Rick Defenders Rick Fox Defenders ain't none of that. It's not gonna be none of that. He's gonna pull up on you. I got busy on it That was an older Ron Harper. I was I don't even know if I like it and that Lakers go back and look at that

Yeah, Kobe and then was making that run out of them. Facts. All right. Three in a row. Ron Harper go fight. Ron Harper is very active on Twitter. It's like it's but the fact that he's even even in that conversation lets you know how yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, it is. But I probably take I probably take I probably take Shaq. So let's talk a little bit about Joker. Did this run cement Joker as a top five center all time? You got Shaq will I know y'all don't like Bill Russell, but again if you get a view and Bill Russell's number Bill Russell's in the top five Joker's top five period. Yeah, you consider Yannis a sinner. No

Poplar power for power for power for Do you consider Giannis a sinner? No, he's a power forward. Power forward, power forward, power forward. We could put him. He's top five then. So top five. So you bumping Bill Russell out? He's not in my top five but if everyone else has him as top five. I don't have Bill Russell in nothing. Me neither. I don't want to see none of

that shit. I don't count him. No RIP but respect though. No shade. But watch the fuck out. He was playing in Chucks and getting called the N-word repeatedly. Against him. No, I get that. But he didn't even average 20 points. Gil, they smeared Dookie on his wall.

What I'm saying is that he did. This was the fans that liked him. This was the fans that were Celtics. I know, but he didn't average 20 points a game as one of the only black men in the league. In the whole league, yeah. And you were more athletic than everybody. Jay, you were just a very, very high-level hustle guy. Athlete.

And you just, you had hustle points. Well, was that his fault, or do you think the league was like, no, no, you can't be good at all? No, because Will Chamberlain came in, and he's 50. Like, oh, so we see what an offensive player looks like. He blazed the trail for Will. Now we see, yeah. We got 20, we're like, oh, that is a good Negro.

And then 50 coming, then what happens to 38 and 27? 50 and 27, like, eh, this is a better Negro. It's a better one. He's giving us. Are there more of these coming? That's what I said. I'm looking at the stats, and some of them was, I'm just like. He said good Negro.

This looks good, but why isn't he averaging more points? If everyone was little, no one scored? He wouldn't like that. I went to all the players in that era and I'm like... He wouldn't like that. Everyone else is averaging 38 and all this shit. It's like, well, he must have been just some hustle guy that just blocked shots and stuff. The rings is cool, but because of the way the way was the league was Structured, you know once you were good. No, there was no free agency. So you wasn't getting better through free agency

He's getting better through the draft and so obviously the draft or trades Everyone was being traded to you people who are like rebuilding so you got all the players It's fucking four and four. I mean, come on Fucking four and four. What are we doing? Sorry bill? Come on, what are we doing? Sorry, Bill, they motherfuckers tripping. We love you, though, rest in peace. Yeah, I love you.

I mean, I, yeah. Oh, for sure, respect. Thank you. He wasn't even the best player. I mean, it was a rookie, I mean. Let's move on, let's move on. What I'm saying, it was a rookie, there was another rookie who came in with him.

That was first team. You know one of the things I don't do? It was all, it was a rookie. Let's move on. What I'm saying is a rookie. There was another rookie who came in with him. That was first team. You know one of the things I don't do? It was all, it was. People that passed away, like when people try to like have Kobe slander, like we all have. You can't slander Kobe. Right, but that's what I'm saying. Like when you try to slander or say something about somebody that passed away, something about it don't sit right with you. You can't slander Kobe.

Yeah, but duh. I just used him as an example. That's a bad one. I wasn't slandering him the best. Well, there's a lot of people that slander Kobe. I'm sure y'all know that. No, we don't hear that. Not when it comes to basketball. Not when it comes to basketball.

Yeah, it is. Not when it comes to basketball. No way. Yeah, it is. Those are called, what are they called, those people? Reform LeBron fans. We saw the light. It was never at Kobe, just his fans. Similar to Steph. You know. What are they called, those people? Reform LeBron fans, we saw the light.

It was never at Kobe, just his fans. Similar to Steph. They were mean to LeBron, we had to battle back. We had to stick up for ourselves. We had to battle back. We had to. Jesus, Jesus, Jesus. But it was always love, we knew. It was that same bitterness we have towards Steph.

Never mad at Steph, just Steph fans. Just the fans. They talk too much, they mean. But let's talk about Joker. For all his success, I think Joker deserves the most credit for literally not giving a fuck about anything. Just moments after winning his first chip

and finals MVP, he was already salty. He had to wait until Thursday for the Nuggets Championship Parade. So I'm curious what you are feeling right now. And if you're looking forward to a parade coming up in Denver. Venice parade. Venice parade. Thursday.

No. No. He said no! I don't know. He had the flight ready. Yeah. Uh... I love that they asked the question.

He didn't even start to answer the question. He wanted a witness parade. Hey, that makes sense. Like they told him, he was basically saying, no. No, wait, no. I thought we'd leave tomorrow. I thought we already talked about this. Yeah.

Yeah. This is that third that he was like, no. No, me and my wife are flying home in the morning. And then had to think about it. Oh, man, I can't. I gotta book the flight for Friday. He said, parade inside my city, fuck. Listen, he ready to put his jeans on, take off his pants, and then he's ready to go.

He's ready to go. He's ready to go. He's ready to go. He's ready to go. He's ready to go. it. Oh, man. I can't. I got to book a flight for Friday. He said, put everything beside my city. Fuck. Listen, he ready to put his jeans on, take his shirt off, be in some barn somewhere, getting drunk, partying. Not caring. Huh? Not caring.

Yeah. But you know how different. When you really think about it, it's no different than when we're overseas and our season's over. We're trying to get the fuck out of there. Exactly, and this is what we were telling you. No, this is what I was telling you. No, this is what we're... No, no, no, no.

This is my claim. You have a champion who don't even want to go to the parade. How can you market it? Yeah, we were saying the same thing. I said you were saying the same thing to me, but you're changing it. This is what I was saying. We have a champion who don't have no interest in nothing American and he wants to get the fuck out of here.

Go hide in a barn so we're celebrating. And how as the NBA, how do we market it? Go find some of them American players. Yes. Go where you're celebrating. Market Popeye Jones. Go where you're celebrating. Market DeAndre Jordan. Who? Wait, who? Who? Go where you're celebrating. Yes Market Popeye John

Go where you celebrate Market Papa Market Thomas you literally thought he's crying cuz he did one of those What day is parade not like oh I'm like nigga fuck Thursday I gotta sit in this bitch for two more days? Two more days? Two more hours? Well, man. Well, market Jamal Murray. Yeah. He don't have two MVPs and then another one.

Yeah, you got Popeye Jones. Perfect opportunity for Popeyes to step in. Popeye, what? The chicken. The chicken. He ain't playing. It don't matter. Hell, want to market a damn big player. Market DeAndre Jordan.

He wasn't good when he played. Market Ishmith. Jeff Green. KCP. What do they want? What do they want? Jamal Murray. They got MVPs?

They got two of my MVPs? Do they have two of my MVPs? No. It's not like it's Dirk. You're like, Dirk is still in America, right? You know, Dirk is still in America. Gasol is still in America. Right? Nash, still in America, right? You know, Dirk is still in America. Gasol is still in America.

Right? Nash, still in America. Yogurt's like, yeah. I'm leaving in the morning. He's like, I've been here since September. Going back, I mean, partying in Serbia is way better than... I know, I know. I'll tell you that much.

I'll tell you that much. He's about to have a ball. And what's so funny is that if we see him turned up, laying down on cars and shit, everybody's going to be like, yeah, he had a good old time. Like, if I'm his teammates, I'm going to get on that plane with him. Yeah, I'm going. I'm going back to Serbia with him.

I'm telling you. I would go for sure. No, I'm telling you. We ain't never been to Serbia. That's what it is. Listen, with him? Oh, we good. With him?

Yes. We good. You ever been to Titi's? Yes. We good. You ever been to Tootsie's? Yes. We good. We good. I ain't. What you saying?

Tootsie's is not even that little of a strip club, Loki. They play country music sometimes. They play rock and roll. Like, come on. There's way better strip clubs than Tootsie's. Never been to a strip club, so I'm going to take y'all word for it. I ain't even know they dance in Tootsie's, okay? Oh, so you go in the private room?

Magic City. I like Magic City. Yeah, Magic City is now. Heard they have delicious chicken wings. Oh, so you go in the private room? Magic City. I like Magic City. Yeah, Magic City is now you- Heard they have delicious chicken wings. Oh, it was off the, yeah. Those were my days. Had my run. Who eats chicken wings in a strip club? People in the South, Bill?

Most of the strip clubs have better food than restaurants. They have great chefs. No, for sure, for sure. Everything. That's a fact, no. Yes. No, no, so you go to Magic City to get you some, okay, some chicken tenders and shit?

For sure. There's a lot of strip clubs or really good food a lot Me and she used to go to me and she used to go to show club in Detroit So that's we should have a draw what right steaks and rice and shit that y'all are that We going for food. Yeah, y'all go to a strip club to an order actual food. Like yeah, I do What's the problem? That Cheetah's in Atlanta too? That chef is fire.

What's the problem with getting food at a strip club? The Cucci era, like what? No, it's fire. Don't you supposed to eat first and then go to the strip? No, you can do both. You can watch the show, you figure out which girl you want to give you a dance as you eat, as soon as your food done.

Get to the strip club by like 10, 11? Come sit next to me. So you be in there for two hours, three hours? Yeah. Chilling. What kind of strip clubs y'all went to? There's no way me and the Wizards are sitting in there for three hours. Oh, yeah.

I've been in the strip club. I used to get there like 9, 9.30, have the full dinner. Yeah, we just chillin'. Half the strippers you know, so you just kick it in. She just dancing. And sometimes they just chill with you. $10, there you go so you just get it. She just dance. They go $10. There you go. Like whatever.

She just kicking it. Anyway, taking ass and talking. This is all new to me. I get off at 2. Yeah. I'm glad I was so good. Y'all just don't have fun. Yeah, what you gonna forgive?

Yeah. I mean, what you going to do hours quicker than what y'all was doing? Okay, to something that was two hours, costed less money, yeah. Get in and get out. No, we still spending probably the same thing that you spent. No, we didn't. Trust me. We just going to eat there, chill, get a couple hundreds, and boom, boom, boom.

What we was doing, we didn't need no eat. Get in, get out, see you a little bit later. You been missing out. Nah, man, you got to- No, y'all been missing out. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, they come back. They come with you. No, the first time we was going to strip club early, of course, man, you got to be kidding me. No, y'all been missing out. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, the first time we was going to strip club early, of course, yeah, you would go in there

and do your thing real fast. But now, as you get older, you're like, I'm going to just chill. Like, I'm going to just chill out and relax. The music good. The game is playing. Yeah, like, it's fun. Like, the bartender cool. It's better than going to a club.

Obviously. It looks like it sounds like it. No, that's a fact. It sounds like it. It's better. It's actually cheaper than going to the club. Yeah. Interesting. And you have an actual dinner table that you can eat. Obviously, it looks like it's not that's that's the fact sounds like that It's actually cheaper than going to the club Yeah, and you have an actual dinner table like you can eat sit at the bar have a dinner table She's serious. I'm gonna dance if there's a table in front of me you spin your chair around we've talking about

Fucking amateur table. They know table in the back Are you hiding now? Oh, you hiding out. Oh, see, yeah, you hiding out. What are you talking about? Yeah, you hiding out. He goes to the strip club just for the heavy ending. Yes! OK, OK, OK. Going right to the bar.

I didn't even know girls dance. I mean, yeah, that's the young days. I didn't see poles. I don't know what the poles is. It's V-line right to the back. Close the curtain. Boom. Open the curtain.

Leave. What are y'all talking about? Chicken wings and dinners? Nobody got time for all this shit. All right, you got to tell you them. Just be extra crispy. You listen out. Good time.

Listen out. I'm out of here. Listen out. Yo, T, I was their last slayer. I ain't seen him. Was he in my next booth? What booth was he in? Like, I don't know what y'all talking about.

Y'all like. No, see, Gibraltar come in, low key beat. It's like, I'm past them days. That was when I was younger. Now I'm chilling. Y'all actually have conversations and talking. I literally post up in the strip club. Pointing girls on the EU.

And you can get a bottle for the real price of the bottle in a strip club. Like the actual price. See, but Gil, he don't drink. See, he in and out. Gil just in and out. See? It's a way to have fun.

Yeah, see, he not there. That's why you go to Tootsie's, bro. You didn't go to KOD's, it's going to cost you about 10, 20,000. Man, you'd be surprised when you sit at the strip club or the bar. Yeah, it's lit. And just like conversations. Yes, it's lit. Conversations. See, I'm with Zion. Zion did it right.

No, he didn't. Zion was smart. No, he did not. No, he did not. No, he did not. In home entertainment, you don't have to go nowhere. He didn't have no in home. We didn't know everything he was doing at home.

Yeah. She told everything. Of course he did not. No, he did not. In home entertainment, you don't have to go nowhere. He didn't have no in home. We didn't know everything he was doing at home. Yeah. She told everything. Unfortunately. Unfortunately. But before that, up until last week, he was having a good old time. I mean, for sure.

But I mean, you know. Eventually we found out. You know, eventually though, it's going to come to light. So. NDA. Yeah. Yeah. I wish I could do it all over again.

Go mentor that man again. I go to wish I could do it all over again. Go mentor that man. I go to a strip club and have some chicken wings. Fire. Get it on. Get it on. Lobsters, steak. Get a bone in.

Rib eye, bone in. Beating well. Fire. Tomahawk. Hey, chat. Don't listen to these people. Just go look. All right.

Take your $250, $400 and you go to the back room get your thing and get on out of there That's it. You don't need to go there and have a good time. You're missing out. You rather come home and door dash some food. Facts. Go there do what I need to do. Come door dash. Eat my food. Watch TV. I'm good. You can get your food fresh right there, eat, have a good time. Hey Gil, wasn't you going on blind dates and like posting it? Yeah. Yeah.

That's how bored I was. I remember that shit, yeah. You were going on blind dates and posting pictures of yourself? One of the best moments in Twitter history. That was one of the best moments on Twitter. He was posting it and like he was talking about his date the whole time. 2010, 11. Yeah, this early, this early. This early. This early.

This early, girl. This when she just got caught. Oh my god, I missed all of that. The girl you took on the date, did she find out? Like what point did her friend start to find out? There was multiple. There was more than one? Post date.

She found out during the date. It was at dinner. It was like she went to the bathroom, came back. Whole attitude changed. I was like, ooh, I think I got caught. What'd she say? Huh? What'd she say?

She didn't say much. You could just tell, energy. Mm, yeah, it was different. The energy, the eye. Would you say something like, she ain't as cute as I thought she was gonna be, or? Outfit. You said something about her fit?

Outfit. What was that though? I remember that, bro, I remember that. I remember that. That was hilarious. I guess you didn't get none then, huh? You still got some? I mean, that's Agent Zero.

Hibachi. I'm a... Talk about it. Talk about it. Ain't no way I'm giving you some Hibachi if I haven't seen you talk shit about me on social media. No one told you to put that outfit on. I'm talking about the outfit.

Not necessarily you. So, the tweet, got hooked up on a blind date and I guess she was blind when she picked out this outfit. Oh my god I thought she was the queen of Zamunda Ain't no way It was. I'm not even. It was like two or three days, right? It wasn't just one. Yeah, yeah. He was going.

And you talked bad about all three of them? And all three of them still got moist? Because he did the one picture. You know, in the phone, the iPhone, he did the one picture like, you can turn, like, looking from the corner of your eye. I was like, yo. Yo, you already dragged me. It was the lockout.

This dragon can eat. I'm glad we're at an all-you-can-eat spot. She went the lockout. This dragon can eat. I'm glad we're at an all-you-can-eat spot. She went to the restroom. I think I busted you guys. Her friend texted her. This dragon? You called her a dragon, and she's still fucking?

Usually when you eat, I didn't call her a dragon. I just described her. You did. This dragon is her. Described. Dude, we might need to do a Gil's like, no, man. We might really need to do a Gil's blind date series and just have you go on blind dates.

Yo, can we hook you up, Gil? Yeah. Let's all hook Gil up on a blind date. And like, yeah. Blind date. A blind date, yeah. So these girls just won't sleep with you then. They didn't even care that you were mean to them.

I wasn't mean to them. Yes you were, that was mean. They're not the internet. She could eat like a dragon. I wasn't mean to her, I was very polite to her. If I saw that on the date, I woulda threw a drink on you. I woulda for sure thrown a drink on you. No one knew who he was.

And that's how you would say, why would you do that? Why would you do that? I woulda thrown a drink on you. I don't know what you mean it was. What? And that's how you would say, why would you do that? Why would you do that? I would have threw a drink on you. But nobody, they didn't know who she was. So what? So it didn't matter. I read it, I'm throwing a drink on you. And then?

Yeah, and leaving. And then, oh, leaving, oh. Yes, I'm out. Oh Lord. All right, show's going off the rails. Got to bring it back in. All right, my bad. Gil's Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy. We appreciate the more than 6,000's going off the rails. Got to bring it back in. All right, my bad. Gil's Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy.

We appreciate the more than 6,000 of you in the chat right now. Remember, as a reminder, if we get over 10,000 people on one of these live streams, Gil got to hit the blunt. That's tomorrow or Thursday. OK. Oh, you didn't get the memo. Why are you talking to me? I'm just here.

Thursday's the last show. Yeah, Thursday's the last show. So that means Thursday we need 10,000 people. So Thursday, so like once the season ends, right? He gonna renegotiate. He's renegotiating. He wanted to be 25,000. No, we still got summer league shows.

No, no, no, no, no. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There has to be a summer league number. Technically in the same season. No, this is a season. Like NBA players don't get paid in the summer leagues. So do us. Yeah, they do.

They do get checks. No, they don't. Yes, they do. Yes, they do. They get per diem. They get per diem. That ain't NBA checks. You do get a check. You do get a check. We renegotiating.

So I'll just say this. We all love working here. We love this job. I do. But we got to give some love to Joker for his astute analysis just about work in general. During this post-game press conference press conference Joker said nobody likes their job Maybe they're doing they're lying I get it. That's real shit. Yeah, I get what he's saying though. Like I get it. I get it. I get it

That's the job yeah the job ain't the plane talking to his talking showing up appearances pictures autographs Media yeah, yeah to people and showing up appearances, pictures, autographs, media. Yeah. Yeah. So a question, sorry what you give. Does Joker hating his job make him the most relatable NBA star of all time? No, no. No, that's the same thing that the media kills us about, like with the Kyries, the KDs, that the part that they want to do is just play basketball.

They don't want to do the other things.. They don't want to do the other things. They don't want to sit here and talk after games. They want to go process why they lost and they're upset. And you're just sticking microphones in their face. That's the job that players are not wanting to do. So for him to just say it and know what happened. He says it out loud and everyone's like, his Joker's funny. As soon as Kevin says, fuck you, you're going to have to do it or we're going to fine you.

That's part of your job. Like, okay. Mark Sean says it, I'm just here so I don't get fined. He's a bad man, but Joker says it. You know what's crazy about Joker? He signed a Nike, right? I think Nike should, for his marketing, I think Nike got to take that Joker thing to the next level.

They dropped the video right after the championship. They did. I saw that video. I didn't even see it. That was cool. Was it good? Yeah, it was nice. They dropped it after?

No, right after. They need to get real dark with him and go into the Batman Joker type. You guys remember that picture they posted of him holding the Joker in his face? Like how they got his face to do that or whatever? That was so dope. That needs to be his alter ego. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Nike should take big advantage of that.

I mean, they've done great when they did with Penny. He didn't speak a lot, so they had the Penny doll. But Penny Game spoke. So they got to bring out Baby Joker? He the penny game spoke so they got a baby Joker You gotta bring out some some type of person Joker and just that like a Joker that's like I Would I would just use the road the real Joker that they're using the Yeah, no, no the Joker to that's coming out but can they use like likeness and all that kind of stuff? Pay for it. Yeah.

I mean, they got the Nike. It's Nike. You got the money. Yeah. Like, you know, I would take it that far. We're giving away free game. I know Nike reps are watching this shit. They're about to make a bag off y'all.

No, they're not. Adidas is going to pull it first. Huh? We're going to sign them. Adidas? Mm-hmm. Give them Joker. So we asked, the chat is Joker Jokic a top five center?

67% said yes, 1200 voters. So 33% were hating. Top what, five? Top five center all time. Shit, 67, that's a win. People have spoken. So Twitter made a big deal over Joker being upset about the parade and he wanted to go home to race his horses.

Does Joker's ending this series in five to get home to his horses add to his legacy? Yes. Yeah, that's the one. I don't even want to fucking play. I want to get home to these horses. And maybe that's why he was mad. And it wasn't like, I got to get home. Yeah.

When they thought they was going to lose, he was on that bitch. Let's get this shit together. I don't know what y'all talking about. That's why he was really mad. Like, fuck, I'm trying to get to the crib. I got a flight booked already. I'm not missing it. That's funny.

My horses. I don't know what y'all talking about. That's why he was really mad. Like, fuck, I'm trying to get to the crib. I got a flight booked already. I'm not missing it. My horses. I got to get back. Hey, there was something he said. I don't know if I picked it up. But was he talking about driving back home?

He can't drive. It was something like, I don't know what it was. Because I guess they can use the team plane. He can use the team plane to go back home. I mean, they should give it to him. They should give him anything he wants. Anything he wants, he should be able to get. What do you want?

Got it. He shouldn't be spending no money. Yeah. Especially Denver. I wouldn't spend money for the next season. Their first championship. If I won a championship, everything free. I ain't coming.

Give me the credit card. Yep, yep. Give me the team credit card. I'll give it back. I'm going to Serbia. There the credit card. Yep. Give me the team credit card. I'll give it back. I'm going to Serbia. There ain't much I can do in Serbia with this credit card, but it's going to be worth it. More horses. Buy some more horses. Great bars work in Serbia now.

You know, get the whole town drunk for a week. $47. So after the win, Nuggets tried to get Joker to turn up in the locker room, but he was still unimpressed. This is going to be one of the most iconic moments. He probably wanted real alcohol. He's probably like, this ain't no liquor. But that champagne ain't really nothing.

I mean, you know, it's... Oh, it looked like it was empty. no liquor. He looked at it. But that champagne ain't really nothing. I mean, you know. Oh, it looked like it was empty. They gave it to him at the bottom. They cheating. Was that at the bottom? Oh, that's whack. They should have gave him a full one.

He's funny. How many championships have you won? Who, him? In Serbia? Yeah. In his life? Yeah, he's won over there. Let's see.

I don't know. That's a... How would you feel? See, but there's a different type of, like, if he's now playing in Serbia, like, say, in Belgrade, he's playing for one of the teams in Serbia, Belgrade. If he wins it there, it's going to be different. Like, it's going to be love. It's his country. It's his country. They speak his language.

All it is is just him and his family and his brothers. Yeah. They're not singing, you know, their songs. And the teams they have, the crowd. That shit just hit different. It hit different, yeah. He never won in Serbia, but he was their tunes, their songs. That shit just hit different. It hit different, yeah. He never won in Serbia, but he was the league MVP.

He didn't win anything in EuroLeague either? No, but he dipped in 2015. They lost to Partisan Belgrade in the semis. Yeah, I'm going to say Belgrade. That's what I'm saying, Partisan. So, NBA arena compared to overseas arena, they're louder, right? Hell yeah. They don't even sit down.

They're louder. So this is like amateur arenas for him. And there's more people. Yeah, that's why I said him, Luka, even Giannis, dude, they play in hostile environments at a young age. I'm talking about flares. I'm talking about singing. I'm talking about the referees. It's dangerous for you.

We've got to wear stuff over us to go sit down because they'd be flicking flares. They throw the lids of the drinks, of the soda. They start taking the lids off of the soda. You can't have that. They make sure you don't have any. They used to throw coins at us. Coins, everything. When you're going into the locker room at halftime,

stuff like that, they're throwing their coins. That shit hurt. They're throwing them at you. They make slingshots to hit you harder with them and everything. It's not a game. So Malice in the Palace is like an average Thursday out there. No, that's not. So these arenas to someone like him is just like... It's mid.

He don't feel none. That's why playing in LA, when they swept, I said, oh, he used to this. This ain't nothing. It's boring little baby crowds. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, they stand up the whole time. They jump the whole time.

They have big-ass banners across, and they have their little chants and their songs that they sing the whole time. Players. It's crazy. I played in some hostile environments my first year over there. Like, I went to Greece. I went to Serbia. I played... Who? Mustafa? Shakuri? He went to Arizona? Yeah, I played in some hostile environments my first year over there. I went to Greece. I went to Serbia. I played at Mustafa.

Shakuri went to Arizona. Yeah, I played him in Serbia. Their arena was crazy, 20,000. Just going crazy. I got escorted out of a soccer game. I went to go watch soccer over there, and the fans was throwing stuff at me because I played for the basketball team. I had to leave.

My coaches were like, you can't go to any more soccer games. It caused that much of a stir, me sitting in the arena watching soccer because I'm for the other team. They're just more passionate. Like, crazy. They're more passionate. They just care about the team. They don't care about, you know, they just want to win in the team.

If they win, everybody wins. So we kind of blame Joker for being a motion motionless not rocking But are we really the problem because we're not turnt up enough to get his attention Basically, that's what it seems like that the we ain't turnt up enough Yeah like we're not turnt up and and also I feel like like like if I got a guy like Joker on my team I'm gonna Have some Serbian type of guys like people like people in the arena or like a section. I'm having a Serbian section.

Like, you know, a Serbian section where he can hear it, where he can like, you know what I'm saying? Like something. I think that's how we, you know, owners should do better with their like foreigners. Like, let's see if you got a star, like make them feel it. Yeah. Like them flags going through and they got their little section and shit. That should go a long way.

That's the black hole or whatever. That's the most put that right behind the bench or something of the other team. You could call it the deck. It's like Joker is a card in the deck. I call it the deck. See, go get like 30 of them. Go get like 30 of them out there. That 30 gonna sound.

Yeah. All right. They're gonna have the whole arenas doing the same thing. Yes, they'll follow along. That could be like the Broncos had a horse riding through. You know that familiarity? It just feels like he's out of place and he's just trying to figure out how to get it over with and go. Because I feel like we've been jumping, a lot of media's been jumping on Joker, but the reality is it's our fault because we're boring as fuck.

Compared to him? You go online and you watch a lot of Joker partying right? He's in a tent He's in like a house party tent and they playing music me all dancing around I'm like, that's what he's used to right there Damn, so it's us Wow That's like Serbia. That's like Serbia win an NBA championship The whole city of the part burned like like like like my God. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, they would be partying for the next three days.

Fuck one parade. Non-stop. We're parading every week. Like, every day. I think that would help the league's viewership issue, too. I don't know if they would ever allow that. But, you know, if you made them games as turnt up as those overseas experiences, that's something to discuss.

I'm going to say, kids be at those games and everything. So, what's the worst? Like, they're hearing worse. So, let me tell you this too. So when you over there, the seats, I don't know if it's changed, but when I was playing, there was no, like, whatever your ticket was, it was just a ticket. So it was first come, first serve with the seats. So you can get row one if you get there early enough and get in line.

The line's wrapped around the arena. So you get in, you go straight to whatever seat you want. And their jerseys are like $30, $40. Your whole family could go out multiple times throughout the year to enjoy the game. Here, we inflate everything. We make it so hard and so expensive for just kids to even come with their regular family. So you got a bunch of people that got money in their luck.

That's why we get paid the big bucks. I know. I understand that. I understand. I just that. I understand. But it's just still, I just still feel like, I feel like the NBA makes so much money that kids under 10 should get in free. That's what I think. Yes.

What they do at Disneyland? They got parents. What they do at Disneyland? Shit, Disneyland, it's like $10 difference between adults. They got parents, right? You know, my kid getting free, but I got to pay. I just feel like kids, we should invite the game more for kids. At least under three years old, get in free.

Under three years old? What the fuck you want? Yeah, I think Disneyland might be three or under. Yeah, I think Disneyland is three and under. I'm not trying to sit next to some crying ass baby, man. Damn, Bill. I'm sorry. You also like that dude on the plane.

Yes. Remember that dude on the plane? He went the fuck off about that baby on the plane. Remember that dude on the plane that was going up on that baby? He went the fuck off about that baby. He said, did that motherfucker pay? Yes. It was the left child. Yes.

I do feel a way about kids crying on the plane. You not rolling? No. No, it's just for me, I just feel like people don't understand that people already have anxiety when they fly too, And that the baby's crying. A lot of times the babies are crying because their ears are popping and there's just all kind of things that they can't control. And it stresses you out when you got to fly that long time.

Put the headphones on. Yeah. Put the headphones on. I tried to. I got one. You want me to put the baby to sleep? Give it to me. Can I get some warm milk?

Can I get some warm milk? Because you ain't... You walk up and down rocking the baby. Pat the baby. Come on, do something. Yeah. Like, is this your first child? I got like four, five of them. I personally don't think they care.

I got like four, five of these shit. So I can tell you how to do it, make it easy. Oh my god. Right? Of these shit. Go on, listen, go in the bathroom. Oh my. Hit the water.

Let them play in the water. Hell, man, listen, bro. Let them splash around in the water or something. Make it a fucking event right here, all right? Yeah. You over here trying to shh, shh. Now listen, walk up and down, point at people and shit, go in the bathroom, play with a little water.

You know, you get it sleepy. Come on. This is first fucking rodeo here I see. Like, I'll do it. I'll do it for you. Shit, I'm over here trying to sleep. This motherfucker kicking the seat, yelling. Oh, man.

Yeah, I hate that too. The kids are kicking the seat. I mean about that. I mean, I'll ask the parent the first time, be like, hey, excuse me. Your child's kicking the seat yelling, oh man. Yeah, I hate that too. The kids that kick the seat. I'm mean about that. I mean, I'll ask the parent the first time, be like, hey, excuse me. Your child's kicking the seat. Could you help me out? And the second time, now I'm snapping at you. Now I'm mad.

Now I'm ignorant. You talk to him right there. Shit, he got his own seat. He got his own. And put your headphones. Yeah, you had that conversation with him. Yeah. So good I want to know, what was it like playing in China?

What was the atmosphere like out there? Crazy. It was turnt up. So you do know. You're right. God damn. You're right. You're right.

You're right. No, no, no. I'm sure you had hit the blunt already. No, no. Because listen, I remember we playing Tracy McGrady. We're playing Tracy McGrady. So everyone's there. Both sides.

So there was like, is there T-Mac fans and then there. Like both sides. So there was like there's T-Mac fans and then there's Shanghai Shark fans. And for some reason they didn't get along. Right? Because if you're in a city it's like you can't like

just cheer for someone else. Yeah. You have to cheer. So I don't think they have rules that's like what do they call them here when you hit on women?

Abuse? Harassment? Assault? Yeah, women assault. You know, like we have little things. Domestic violence? Domestic, yeah.

They don't got that over there. Nah. There was a woman over there cheering for T-Mac and she got... And she got smacked? Yeah. They do have different rules

over there for women. Even in Istanbul, too. They was whooping her ass. I was like, ooh. Yeah She got her ass whooped. T-Maka! T-Maka! And nobody said nothing. Listen lady, you just got her ass whooping for that, right? You might want to... Wow. Nah, she kept going. She kept going. I was like, yo, this is crazy. It was just like a full out brawl. There was dudes dudes that's like for T-Mac.

Then they started helping her. Then like, woo. Were they smoking cigarettes still when you played? Yeah. They played smoking cigarettes. Our teammates were smoking cigarettes. Teammates smoking. When I played, they smoked.

In the arena, you could smoke cigarettes. Teammates smoking cigarettes and everything. Yeah. Like, I ain't passing y'all the ball. Y'all ain't in shape. 1-4 flat. That was the wildest thing. 1-4 flat.

Did you learn how to say one-four flat in Chinese? No, just move, move, move, move. There you go. This is one-four flat to kill. This is one-four flat to kill. One, two, three, four. You got it. You get it?

Nah, but the players are so nice. They are. You are the professional, so they're going to give you the ball anyway. They'll be on the fast breaker. They'll be, uh-huh. They'll make the layup. No, no, be on the fast breaker. Maybe Make the layup You you see you yeah, that's one thing I like about a lot of foreign players like they they're really like nice I've never really experienced any like mean players over there. Even the men's and women's I like they just seem like really really nice

people So we talked about Joker. We got to give some love to Jamal Murray. Turned his ACL, missed nearly 600 days. He was afraid the Nuggets wouldn't want him anymore. Mike Malone reassured him that,

I forget what he said, you're my property, you're our, it was something like that. No, he didn't say you're my property. No, but it was something like, damn, dog,

like you're our or something like that. Like, slow down, my nigga, like, you're on our team, like, we want to keep you on the team. You are God. You are God. He didn't say that. He didn something like that. Like, slow down, my nigga. Like, you're on our team. Like, we want to keep you on the team. You are a guy.

You are a guy. All that. All that. Here you go, trying to start some shit. I'm just fucking around, Gil. God, but I'm just, it was something I was like, damn, Gil, chill out, Mike Belon, he's your basketball player. Like, whatever it was.

But Murray, you know, Murray's afraid the Nuggets will want him. But after the finals win, he thanked owner Stan Kroenke for believing in him. Where'd I get you one, baby? I know. Where'd I get you one? Thank you. I appreciate you staying patient with me.

I appreciate you staying patient with me. Y'all could've done it, we got a different route. I appreciate you staying with me, man. We got it, Ben. I love you. That's beautiful. Yeah. That was nice.

I know. We got one for you. Home for Jamal Murray. I'm happy for him. Stan Kroenke like, now I don't even know. He got one for you. One for Jamal Murray. I'm happy for him. Stan Cronk, you're like, now I don't know what team you're on.

I got all this on my shit. We winning chips everywhere. I'm happy for him. To see him go through that injury and just, I've never been injured, but to have an injury like that where it takes you that long to get back, you probably get so discouraged, thinking it's never going to happen

or you're never going to be yourself again. And then you finally come back in yourself and you win. And your team has been, that's been the thing about them. Murray's never been healthy. That's why they haven't won. That's probably been on his back for so long. Like damn, it's me. I'm the problem.

And for him to win, that's probably got to be so dope. I wouldn't have been telling nobody else I got it for you. I'd have been like, this me, I got this shit for myself. Need a new bag. Yeah. So does Jamal Murray have one of the best comebacks we've seen Gil? No, this is amazing to be honest.

I mean, you know, especially being dominant. Like he was dominant all through the playoffs. You know, if it wasn't for Joker really, you know, just dominating, right? He was arguably the second best player in damn near every series. Mm-hmm. Ain't even a question. You know what I mean? There's really no question of how, like, you know, the last series against the Lakers was the average 28, 10 and 8 himself. Yeah. And we didn't even pay attention to it.

You know what I mean? So, you know, he earned every bit of that, you know, championship and it would've been cool if they gave him both MVP, but I know that shit would've been hard. Yeah. Have they ever gave Cole MVP? Let me see.

Ever in the finals? I don't think ever in the finals. Never in the finals. But also just being like patient, trusting the process, buying in, even when you've been gone for so long coming back. The hardest thing is trying to come back and just, he came back in the right way. He took care of his rehab and everything, so he just trusted the process. So good things happen for you like that.

And what does this championship mean for Jamal Murray's legacy? I think it's the beginning of his life. He's just now really getting it going. Yeah, right. Yeah, I'm gonna say they both brought him in. They're both young. Yeah. Yeah, him and so they got a chance.

I mean, looking at their roster and everything, shit, they don't really need to make any moves like that, honestly. Everyone's under 30, right? Who's the oldest? Aaron Gordon? I think so. Yeah. It's like, you know, they don't really, like, you know,

this could be a team where they could be making a run for me. Yeah, they can make, they don't, like, after the Warriors had their run, they might be able to be on the run now. So, Jokers, you know, good through 2027. Jamal Murray through 2025. Porter's there through 2027. Aaron Gordon's got a player option in 2026, but he's good until then. KCP's got a player option in 2025. Bruce Brown's got a player option this season.

Christian Brown obviously is going to be there for a second. Oh, yeah. They got three years at least. They got at least three years where they don't have to do anything. They got to do nothing. Yeah. Just add backup pieces. And they made the trade with the Thunder for those pick exchanges

and all that stuff. I see somebody like a Peyton Watson who obviously didn't play a lot this season, but is a guy now for the future of this squad. You're going to start to see some changeover. And they do have other people on the bench that we haven't even seen, too. So you never even know I'm gonna say damn they gonna be all right. Yeah, there might be a spot It's gonna be a problem for us Lakers, you know, we get Trey young

So you say so championship window could be a couple years. It could be a couple months It'll be a couple months, you know made the right pick this summer. You know what I mean? You know what I mean? We'll see. LeBron needs that foot fit. What kind of Laker fan are you? What is LeBron going to do? His foot is fine. Have you talked to him?

Yeah. He said he had a charger, put it on the charger. He took it off, put it on the charger. Screw it off. He it on the charger. Screw it off. He's fine, man. We'll see what happens. They got to change it back to Staples. That's the shit that really, you know, not to make this about the Lakers, but since you

brought it up. Crypto.com Arena has really brought all that negative energy in. They're done now. Bring it back to Staples. The crypto dollar went down, didn't it? Ain't the crypto, ain't all that NFT crypto stuff tanking? I never got into it. Yeah, they got to go back to Staples. I want to see dollars. I don't know. Yeah. Would the wrong person. I know, right? I know. You asking the wrong person.

I know, right? You asking the wrong person. You asking the wrong person. She crazy. The Lakers had to play a Gills arena. You need my whole face on the floor. What you talking about, buddy? Oh, the half-court on your face?

I be on the floor on the top of this. What? Man, listen. You asking the wrong person to sponsor, man. This is my event at that point. Pose in the locker room is what we're doing. Oh, my God.

But let's talk about 2023 NBA Finals runner-up. You're Miami Heat. He became the first playing team to reach the finals. Suffered their third straight finals loss, second straight in the Jimmy Butler era. So, they've gotten there, man.

He's been one of the most successful teams in the past four or five years what do the heat need to do to actually win the chip get over that uh you can first of all you can take the title of being the first play-in team to make the finals okay it's only been two seasons adam silver made me say i'm trying to get back into these good graces so we might squeeze one media credential at summer league we just can't use that like it's this big thing. What can they do? I mean, get better.

I mean, you know, it's such, you know, get some players over there. Like, you know, it just seems like, you know, when you have success, you get stagnant with,

okay, this is good enough. We just need to get better, make some, you know, that going into the locker room and then go over the plays y'all could have made to change this series. Like, no, no, no, no, we need better pieces, right? None of that, oh, if Hero would have been there and Vic would have been there, we would have been,

no, no, no, no, go get some new pieces, right? You need, you know, big man. You need a powerful, a real powerful that can stretch the floor or bang down low so Bam don't have to, you know. They probably need to get defenders also. Jimmy guarding the main guy a lot for him to be the person that they need on offense too. They need a star.

But if you put a power forward in there, it pushes him back to his position. Position, okay. Yeah, because right now he's playing power forward. Yeah. They need a star. They need a star and some role players. Like some role players. Some real role players.

Yeah, some real role players. Some real ones. Yeah, okay, so those players. Those guys would be great if they were coming off the bench. They average 11 this year. But they'd be great off the were coming off the bench. They averaged 11 this year. They'd be great off the bench, right? Yeah, where they're supposed to be. Because when they were bench players, they averaged...

Like, three of them averaged 11 during the season with the whole team there. In the playoffs, when everyone was gone and they... They're being featured, they averaged nine, all three of them. You did worse. You did worse when the spotlight was on. Getting the most minutes. Everybody ain't built for that.

But we thought they were doing better. Because they had one good game. So we mentioned star player. Now there was a report that he tried to make a trade for Kyrie at the deadline. Damn. For who? Let's see.

They didn't say who, but it just said, this was according to Sean Serrania. And now you got Kyrie lurking in free agency. So we talked about that. Now Dame Lillard, name also been thrown around. Make a trade. Now I gotta know who. Who? Who?

Who? I mean, they made an offer, probably wasn't good enough. It had to have been Jimmy Butler. You think Jimmy? No way. Fuck yeah. Who else you trading? Probably back then, trade deadline, they was fighting.

You could have all our Caucasians, Tyler Nero, Duncan Robinson. No, Jimmy was fighting with the organization, right? Him and the coach, him and UD around February? UD and him for sure was fighting. I didn't know he was fighting with the organization, right? Him and the coach, him and UD around February? UD and him for sure was fighting. I didn't know he was fighting with the organization, though. Yeah. Then Lowry got the expiring contract, I believe. Jimmy and Dallas wouldn't be bad either.

Next season. I mean, Jimmy and Dallas would have been good. Oh, my God, Jimmy and Dallas would have been perfect. That would have been perfect. With Kyrie there? But this was before. No, Kyrie. Was it Trey?

Yeah, to Miami. No, but this is when he was in. Dallas still needs more. This is when he was in Brooklyn, right? Yeah, it was Brooklyn. Oh, Brooklyn. That's when the trade was to Miami. No, but this is when he was in... That one still needs more. This is when he was in Brooklyn, right? Yeah, it was Brooklyn. Oh, Brooklyn. When the Trey was going on, they were in front of him. Oh, okay.

Dame Lillard said he wouldn't mind playing with Bam. That's another name that's been linked to the Heat. We discussed on this very show, James Harden. Heat fans weren't feeling it, but I think if they get their minds right and really see the vision... I'm not feeling that. They would support it. There's no way.

Harden buys into Heat culture. They know something we don't. Who? Heat fans. They don't know nothing. That's why they're Heat fans. Ien buys into Heat culture. They know something we don't. Who? Heat fans. They don't know nothing. That's why they're Heat fans. What did James Harden have?

22 and 10? And they don't think 22 and 10 would have helped him in this championship. Did you just do an interview talking about how he didn't show up in the game? So you think if Miami had James Harden, they make it? Instead of Max? I mean, they making the finals? Instead of Max? I mean, they making the finals? Instead of Max? Do you think they making the finals?

Instead of Max. I'm just... Yes. Okay. Is that a championship level? Yes. You got a Harden playoff, Jimmy, bam, that's a championship level team. Yes.

So you think they still making the same run? Yeah. Jimmy got Jimmy back there? I mean, you got Max. What did I get? Seven points, three points, two points, zero, zero. He gave me zero twice in this series. Do y'all think y'all would have came back down from 3-1 to beat Boston?

Huh? Do y'all think Miami would have came back down from 3-1 to beat Boston? Yep. With James Harden. It would have been down 3-1. They was up. They was up. They was up 3-1.

That's what I'm saying. And we'd have finished that. No, we'd have finished. It would have been 4-1. Gentlemen sweep. No, it would have been 4-1. No, I'm saying Boston was up 3-1, right? No, three. Oh, yeah Miami went up. You remember I mean Miami was up 3-0. Yeah, my bad. Yeah, remember that's when

Rashad decided he wouldn't be he fan when he jumped on Literally jumped on. Hmm. I just don't think he's good for like You're not giving Miami. He's culture You know what it is. I'm thinking about the person That is James Harden. Is he worse than I seen what Doc Rivers said to you see what Doc Rivers said today? He said he said it was hard. He said was challenging coaching him because he's used to one way Yeah, so it's like if you're used to one way and you're trying to tell somebody to get off the ball and move it They ever talk to Dwyane Wade about Pat?

Yeah, but Pat not on that sideline. Shit. I mean, I hear you. I hear you. I hear you. But it's one. It sounds good. You heard what Shaq said?

About Pat? You know, they big fella. You can have a team and give you five year 100 or you can have no team in four years 125. Shaq was like, all right, I want to keep the team. Gave him five year 100. It's just hard for me to- Who's worse in them streets? Him or Antoine Walker? I don't know Antoine Walker like that.

Who's worse? James Harden or Antoine Walker in the club? I don't know. I mean, Antoine Walker? I don't know Antoine Walker like that. Who? Wait, who's worse? James Harden or Antoine Walker in the club. I don't know. I mean, Antoine Walker won a ring. Not when... In Miami. Yes. He won a ring in Miami.

Yes. Okay. You're saying that that will change the culture? He's already had Antoine Walker. Did you see that team, though? But he had Antoine Walker with Gary Payton. Vets. And Shaq.

Vets. That's nasty. In the club. Vets. No, no, Vets. That's nasty. In the club. Vets. These are mature vets. No, no, no, no, no, no. These are mature vets. No, no, no, no, no.

They were worse than... You're talking... They built a strip... They built... Like the club y'all be talking about, like eating and... That's what I'm saying. They were in a strip club that long where they built a barbershop and a basketball court. We're mature vets. That sits in strip a basketball court. We're mature vets.

That sits in strip clubs eight hours? We're mature vets. We do it different. Eight hours in the strip club. We don't even know that's real. You can go online. Go online and type in Antoine Walker 2006. You'll have him coming to clubs, taking a microphone from the DJ, having his own strip

party club throwing hundreds of thousands, and then going to shoot some baskets. That's supporting local businesses, I think. No, but what I'm saying is... And we're all partying together. But that's what I'm saying. But that's the personality. So he's already dealt with just extreme... Even PJ Tucker was partying together.

He's already... But I'm saying he's already dealt with extreme... Personalities. Also, guys, who... Shaq had already three rings before he went there. So I... That's the worst. I got him at the worst. he don't got nothing to do. He wants to just party all day. We want to ring. So I'm saying is like I've still been at the end of day. We're still doing this though. We're not what we're doing off the court. We're still doing it. But that's what

I'm saying. When Shaq got there, he has three rings, right? Mm-hmm. Right? He's in the club like crazy. Dwayne Wade, like he's affecting my young player who didn't drink. Right? Then I bring in Antoine Walker, drinker. Then I have Gary Payton, party. Like I got the all-party squad, and somehow he managed them to focus to win. You think he just got one? I wish I knew. He just got one.

I wish I knew how hard Antoine Walker party. I see James Harden. Google it. You can Google it. Pat, no, but also, yeah, Pat Riley. He going everywhere with like 40, 50 people. Yeah, so is Harden. Yeah, but you're asking like...

No, he's not. Yeah, but you're asking like Eric's supposed to take control of all that. You think he can? Now, Pat, yes, Pat can do that because Pat got, it's Pat, Pat Riley. But you know, Pat's going to find them boys. Pat ain't playing. You ain't going to just have his money in the strip club. When he laughs, right?

He said Antoine Walker served lawsuit papers while partying at the club. Like they knew where he was going. They knew where his ass was at if I needed to serve these papers. That's what I said. That's what I said, man. So it's like he's already seen that behavior, so having just James Harden by himself with the team I have, oh, that's easy cake for Pat.

Why do you keep saying by himself? He's by himself. No, he's not. I don't have three other players that's doing that. P.J. is absolutely with him. Who is P.J.? He don't fucking Shaquille O'Neal. P.J. sits your stupid ass down.

And he travels with the entourage. Sits your ass down, P.J. You can't tell Shaq, like, think about trying to tell Shaquille O'Neal? PJ, sit your stupid ass down. And he travels with an entourage. Sit your ass down, PJ. You can't tell Shaq, like think about trying to tell Shaquille O'Neal that, hey, sit down, Shaq, or I'm going to fine you. PJ, I cut your ass and send you to Bolivia. I'm just saying he's with you. I'll send you to Bolivia, so get the fuck out of here. He's PJ Tucker.

Shaquille O'Neal. Look at the names. You're talking about all Hall of Fame type of players and he's controlling them One year Pat came down to one year to Pat came down there for two years or one year. No, he came down No, he he came down to do their thing on the first year and realized it wasn't listen to Stan Van Gundy Right and then he came down there for one year one year and then I'm out. I got tell y'all one I'm done Yeah, when you hey boys, I'm here. Stop this shit. Okay, and then after that then yeah, it went back to the way it was

So you think hard to get that same level because he fans are not rolling with you. Good break Every strip let you not let that play in all day. I don't think so. Oh you do just take money Ain't no strip club worth $300,000 on my check. Just banned from all Miami. You can't ban somebody. I mean, come on. You can't tell somebody, yo, you can't go to strip club. No, I can't tell you.

Those strip club owners are like, you got bread? I can't tell you, but I know I can have 530 team practice early in the morning. And we're going to run line drills for hours. I know I can do that as an owner. I can do 530 team practice early in the morning. And we're going to run line drills for hours. I know I can do that as an owner. I can do that shit. Okay. Uh-huh.

I can break you. What? Break you. Why don't the boys pick a swing? Hey, listen. Miami ain't, listen. Miami, you ain't seen one person out of shape ever in Miami in the last 20-something years. There's a reason.

That's true. I mean, but I don't know. It's just a lot. You got to be held accountable 27 years. There's a reason. That's true. I mean, but I don't know. It's just a lot. You got to be held accountable over there. I don't know at this age if you were ready to be like, all right, I got to do this now. The influence he would have. Like him, pop, like influence?

That's meh. Let's talk a little about Kyrie. Now they tried to make that trade for Kyrie at the trade deadline. Kyrie set to become a free agent. Could he be a player that could get the heat over the hump? Yeah. I'm okay. Now with the same team.

So yes. Are you going against the same team? No, wait, wait, Kyrie right now on the- Kyrie on this heat squad. Just him going there, I don't gotta get rid of nobody? You gotta make some moves to- Who then? Who, who I gotta get rid of?

If it's Bam or Jimmy, then it's not gonna... I don't think Bam and Jimmy should go at all. Yeah, I don't know. Try and keep that same nucleus. But they don't have anything else as bait, really. It's not like they have draft picks. That's the problem. They technically don't have no tradable pieces.

Yeah. Probably gotta get up off of Kyle Lowry's contract. He's doing 29 mil next season. Hero maybe. So, hero in there. Kyle Lowry, hero, yeah. Duncan Robson's getting 18 million a season. They can all go The depots got a player option Ozzie probably

But I mean Yeah, Duncan Robbins that I can get yeah, I Don't know Matt. I mean, I kind of know it kind of stuck. I don't know. They're kind of stuck. That's what I said. It's really hard because the pieces didn't play good enough to be traded. Yeah, to be paid. They did good enough just to look good for them. Good luck, Miami. Yeah, Gabe Vincent going to be a free agent.

Good luck. Great city, though. Great city. Even like Gabe, he started off the series hot. And then the last three games, was it zero, three and 12? Yeah, he hurt my feelings. I was picking him and he just, I thought he was gonna bring it back around.

But I think ever since he had that little ankle roll thing, maybe he wasn't the same. Hey, sometimes. Come on, stop. I'm just saying. Reality kicked in. Reality kicked in. You know what I mean?

20-20 and you only average 11. Something has to get itself down. Zero, there we go. Three, there we go. There we go. So let's talk about Jimmy Butler a little bit. Jimmy started off the playoffs hot, struggled a little bit in these finals.

Was asked to guard Jamal Murray. Probably had something to do with it. But before I believe game five, Jimmy was asked if he thought about being elected to the Hall of Fame. He said this, I'm not worried about the Hall of Fame. It's an honor, it is, but I could care less. So first off, not to be grammar police and Mika we talked about this I

could care less is it correct is I couldn't care if you're rich it really doesn't matter I'm just saying you can talk how you want we see LeBron put you in the English language but he's rich and Butler also said if he was selected he wouldn't attend the ceremony would rather put his feet in the sand somewhere so first off just got to ask the group Jimmy Butler's Hall of Famer correct as of right now you got no you would ask so as of right now like if his career's right so here's the body of work 13,000 688 career points averages of 18 points per game 5 five rebounds per game, four assists,

five-time All-NBA, one second team selection, four third team selections, five-time All-Defense, all second teams, six-time All-Star, and a one-time most improved player. He doesn't have any college stuff that's like incredible. You use college? I thought for...

Hell no. And he smacked the Timberwolf team with a bunch of guys that were not going to be there. Hall of Fame, no. If he stopped right now, no. Hall of Fame, no. If he stopped right now, no. Two finals appearances.

No. Eastern Conference championships. You guys say Kyle Lowry's in there, right? Is T-Mac even in the Hall of Fame? Huh? Is T-Mac in the Hall of Fame? Yes. Yes. You guys said Kyle Lowry's in there, right? Is T-Mac even in the Hall of Fame? Huh? Is T-Mac in the Hall of Fame? Yes. Yes.

You guys said Kyle Lowry. We got like 20-something, 28,000 points. Yeah. We're talking about Jimmy, though. Those numbers, you feel like? No, I don't think so. 13,000? No.

Hall of Fame, no. So close to 14,000. He's still obviously got some time left. No. But five all defenses and five all NBAs, not good enough to get you in the Hall of Fame? I mean, shit, I feel like... I mean, it's the bottom line. It's like the worst player in the Hall of Fame

compared to everyone after... And there's going to be a bunch of nasty niggas in the Hall of Fame, I feel. There's going to be some niggas in the Hall of Fame like, get the fuck out of here. The Hall of Fame, comparatively, it's your whole entire basketball resume, but it's a little bit easier to get into, say, MLB or NFL.

They're a little bit. There should be different levels of Hall of Fame. Like top tier? Like me? Yeah. Look, I get it. Hall of Fame is Hall of Fame, but there should be levels. Yes.

Like the Magic, the Birds. That should be a whole group. In the Hall of Fame, gold jackets. Yeah. Hall of Fame, green jackets. Hall of Fame, green jackets. Hall of Fame, white jacket. Right, you know what I mean? No, for real. So if a motherfucker asked me, be like,

yo, Gilroy, yo, I'm Hall of Fame. What color jacket? I got one of them. I'm in there. No, for real, though. Gold jacket, like, yeah, I'm gold jacket standard, baby. I'm first class up in this Jeep. You know, it should be.

Like, it should be levels. There's always levels to everything. There should be levels. Like, so when the youth can come back and you can look and understand someone's career by the color of their jacket. So I don't really have to know. That's a good idea. Like, even though, you got to remember, the scoring's going to change. Everything's going to be inflated, right?

so you don't want to look at somebody, you know 20 years from now and They have these Michael Jordan stats thinking. Well, why is he's better than this guy? You're like, no, no, no, no, hold on relax Didn't put the four-pointer in the five-pointer in you like that in the you know So there should be like certain people that's gold standard. This is gold standard players and then give them their own hall in the Hall of Fame. Like you don't get a bus. Other niggas in the club. Other gold ones get a bus.

Like Will is gold standard and I'm pretty sure they would put Russell. Go Russell. Yeah, Jerry West. Yeah, but for the rest of them, you're in white jackets, everybody. Now, I agree with that. It is a certain level. That is a good idea. How the hell you got the same jacket as Michael Jordan?

Or LeBron James or Magic? Like what? You ain't even did it like me. I can tell you right now, if I got in the Hall of Fame, my name going to be right where Kobe's and LeBron is when I tell my kids and grandkids. Yes. They're going to be like, you got to go to, yeah, look, it's LeBron, Gilbert Arenas right there.

Yeah, yeah. Will Chamberlain, Magic, yeah, yeah, yeah. All this back here in the back, I don't know. No, no, no. Yeah. See how it goes. You're going to have to put me in my category. I'm putting myself where I think I should be.

Yeah. So you're talking about Jimmy. Obviously, he said he don't care. But do y'all feel like Jimmy Butler saying he doesn't care about the Hall of Fame? Is that cap or is that facts? The award, yeah. I mean, every player wants their award. Everyone doesn't need to celebrate.

Everyone doesn't like celebrate an award. I believe him because he just sounded dead ass in the interview that I saw. He was dead. I mean, but like, I mean, like, what do you get? Like when you okay, you got the Hall of Fame. Okay, what's extra with it? Nothing. Just a speech.

Like what? Like you go up there, say your speech, boom, boom with the rest of the guys that's that you're in. And you're in the Hall of Fame with guys that's like been waiting for like, what? 10, 20, 20 years. It's like, you know, And I don't even understand how that works. Like, why am I up here with Bill Walton? His ass should have been in there.

I'm just saying, but I'm just saying that's how it would be. Okay, now, I need to ask them, how the hell does that work, right? If he didn't make it when he was eligible, right? If he didn't make it when he was eligible, those stats wasn't good enough to get in.

How the fuck are they good enough to get in 20 years later? That don't even make no fucking sense. It doesn't. They're not good enough. Just because you're waiting, we're going to wait until there's a weaker group and then we're going to slide it in there. Fuck no. Like, no.

You got 4,000, 6,000 total, 4,000 total points, 6,000 rebounds. And y'all think that's top 75 Hall of Fame? Okay, then everybody should be in at this point. Sometimes it's a slow night at the club. You got to let. We still need these tables filled. Shit, that night been slow as hell then for the last couple years.

But that's what I'm saying. If it wasn't good enough to get in, like, at a certain point. I think it's wild, though, that four, because MJ alluded to it during his speech about how they raised the price of tickets. I think it's what, like $1,500 now to get into that shit? Yeah, DeRosa is $1,500. You get in the Hall of Fame? Shh, to the end.

No, no, no, they go sit there and watch. They go sit there and watch somebody do a speech. It's not an open bar or nothing. I mean, I don't want to put this on anybody because somebody might be wanting to go to the next one. I mean, if you're a basketball player and you're going to listen to someone else's speech that did better than you, I'm not doing it. You know what I mean? So I'm not going to do it.

Like, imagine, you know, I got to go there and watch it. Like, one of my teammates is getting the Hall of Fame, man. I didn't pass him the ball ever. You know what I mean? Like, yeah. Twan, I get it. You know what I mean? Congratulations, man. I'm't pass him the ball ever. Right, right. I mean, like, yeah, Twan, I get it. You know what I mean? Congratulations, man.

I'm going to see you fly, but I'm not going to go over there and you start telling some jokes. Yeah, you know, I made it to the Hall of Fame despite, you know, not getting the ball the first couple years

with Gilbert Arena. And you see the, like... Yeah, right, yeah. Yeah. Hey. Yeah. I inspired him, y'all. I made them better.

So, now it's time for our favorite part of the show. Yes. Mostly fans. Hey, I don't know, do you cook? Gil, look at me. You cook? Gil, look at me. No, damn well I cook.

Absolutely. Okay, listen. I'm dealing with some shit. Gil, look at me. No, I was cooking in the grease pop on my skin. How do you get rid of this? I have an ointment that you can use to put on there. I'm like, yo, this is crazy.

Cocoa butter. They said don't cook next to grease. There's an ointment. What was you cooking? Breakfast sausages. Don't pop it. I flipped it over and it's It's your first time? Yeah.

You are rich. Get a chef. Don't pop it. We deal with that pain. Do not pop it and keep it out of the sun. It's like a gremlin. It comes with rules. It doesn't discolor or whatever. You guys don't care about stuff like that.

I'll be popping. I've been popped many times. The grease don't even bubble up no more. That's how long I've been cooking food. Alligator skin. See, mine. Don't disrespect me. I'm just saying.

See, grease one time. Does this look like gator to you? I'm just saying. Just saying, ain't no gator about this. Yeah, you'll be all right. Most of my hand. Tighten up. All right.

Only fans. Get these strippers that you got happy in the tub. Mostly fans. And fry your bacon and stuff for you. You know, we got three people on here, mostly fans. We got someone trying out for only fans. Go! Chat's still perverted.

See, there we go, I told you. They've been asking me to switch seats with you for the whole show. They keep calling me Makonnen. It's a long story. We're cross brothers. You got to look it up to see what that means. But first question. Knowing what you know now, would you tell your rookie self, what would you tell your rookie self if you can go back in time?

And this is coming from Brandon Jennings fan. There's a Brandon Jennings fan in the chat. Oh, shit. So knowing what you know now, what would you go back and tell your rookie self? Don't have no kids and tell everybody no. Oh, that's good. Yo. Yeah.

As a rookie. I get it. Yeah, as a rookie. Yo. Seriously. Yeah. Yeah. And, and. As a rookie. I get it. Yeah, yeah, as a rookie. Yeah. As a rookie. Yeah, no.

I would have no kids. And my connection with God would be way more stronger. More church, athletes and athletes? Yeah, just more like praying and just more being more spiritual. I think early. Yo, how about yourself? Nothing.

Yo, love? Fucking tired. I don how about yourself? Nothing. Y'all up? I'm fucking tired. I don't want to tell myself. No, because I... Come on, Gil. I can't because I started off on a bench. You wouldn't tell yourself don't bring those fucking guns in there, Rita?

I didn't do that as a rookie. Doesn't matter. You can still tell yourself. I know you're stupid shit. They said rookie. That could... They said rookie. No, when you were a rookie, what would you tell yourself? But know you're stupid shit. They said rookie. They said rookie. No, when you were a rookie, what would you tell yourself?

But would you tell your rookie, look, down the road, if there was ever a situation, don't, you know. Nope. You would still do that? Or say it's a toy gun. You would not still do that. If I've got to tell my rookie self for my career? Yes.

Yes. I thought it was just our rookie season. What would you tell your rookie self? Yeah season. What would you tell your rookie self? What would you tell your rookie self coming into the NBA? Coming into the NBA, your career. Come on. Give us something. You was not perfect.

I thought it was just me as a rookie. I was like, no, I like it because I had to go through pain to be successful. You probably should tell yourself it's going to be all right. You're going through some shit. And definitely don't react. Hold on, hold on, hold on. It's not your question. Well, I'm helping you out because you clearly think you went perfect.

You're not going to talk to my rookie self. Because back then as a rookie, I was cocky. Okay, so. So say that first. Simmer down cocky ass nigga. To be honest, I think I'm going to stick on my answer. I'm not telling myself nothing Would your rookie self listen to your your curse? Who is you who is you check up check up

Love do it how much you out tellcoach how much you average when you play 12 all right if I want to average 12 I'll listen to you. I'm trying to average 20 So since the one who has 20 to talk to me only listen to uh Chris Mullin I'll listen Chris Mullin other than that. I ain't one here that you see I all watch our careers I'm not listening to you use the pass first you average four points now. I want to know nothing about what's going on in your brain Pass the ball to him for what? All right. Next question. Would you consult with the NBA for the right bag and this comes from agony ace? consult They want to know if you will consult with the NBA if they came to you say good we want your the NBA team

NBA organization, I mean with the NBA if they came to you and said, Gil, we want your... The NBA team? The organization? I mean, y'all read between the lines. This is just a question. I mean, would a team? Possibly. Rookie transition program? I know you talked about that. Yeah, the league asked me to do

the gear for every team. Yeah, I would do that. Can we get like a Gil's Arena rookie transition seminar at some point? I would do I would do that for every we get like a gills arena rookie transition seminar Like I'll like I'll do like like consultant for like like free agencies like like let's say Kawhi Leonard if I can go to the team and try to put their brains inside of What the player would be thinking like you wouldn't never left Toronto, it feels up to me.

Because there's little things that rich people, common sense ain't really that common when you have money because you don't think about just the little things. He's lonely here. He's in a different country. He don't have any friends. He don't have no family. That ticket's coming over. Some of them don't have passports because of child support that's like four or five grand you know

so I'll be telling you pay for that have a flight two times a month that his friends and family could come over and you know and you know be a support supporting system for him and you know little things like that that's I would have told them that it's gonna be be pennies on the dollar compared to what you're already giving them. And there's a way where you can charge them for the same shit anyway without them knowing. Brynn and I entertained doing a rookie symposium for the NFL that included training and stuff. He has so many players that want to know how he trains and all the things he did. I was going to do the rookie symposium part where educating them on what really happens

when you get in the NFL. A lot of these players really believe that they're a family. These owners love them. You taking a family discount for a team, you know what I mean, that you're getting concussions for every week. We talked about it to some of the agents, some other people, even players, and they were all like, they think the NFL would find players that came to my rookie symposium. They would find them?

Yes. Oh, they hated me. They wanted me out of there because I said everything that the players really needed to know. And I was like, I really thought about it, but I was like, you know what? I wouldn't want to get somebody in trouble, you know what I mean, trying to come and get knowledge because they do not give them the right knowledge when they come in as rookies. And I don't know how it is in the NBA, but NFL, they don't give them nothing.

They lie, actually. They lie and tell them a whole bunch of bullshit. And those players don't even know about their contracts. Like when they sign a contract, oh, you got four years, $50 million, and 10 of it is guaranteed. They think they're going to get the whole $50 million. Like they're done. Isn't that an agent?

What kind of agent is that? That's not your agent's job. Your agent is only going to do what's best for their agency. That's it. But the agents are not explaining? No. That's what I'm saying. That's why I feel like I really want to do that.

Those players have no idea. They start listening to my podcast and they would hit me up all the time like, yo, what the hell is this? I did not know any... All the stuff I was telling them, everything, even about the weed, the drug testing, they lie about all kinds of stuff. Those players don't know anything. Allegedly, we just got to be clear. They're litigious.

Allegedly don't know anything. I have a man that went through it, so this ain't a legend. Okay, well then shit. Yes. He went through it. So question number three, our Gil's Arena chat spammer of the day. Chat spammer. Out spammed everybody.

The rest of y'all lazy ass spammers got out spammed. His name is You Know Who. If you can't, we don't know. That leaves me only one guess, Gil. There's only one person who will put you know who. No. It's Rashad. It's Rashad.

Rashad. It's going to be Rashad. That's what I'm thinking, Michael. If you could be drafted again, what franchise and era would it be? If I can be drafted again. What franchise and what era? What era? What do you think? As much as I want to go back in the 80s, they were broke.

Cool. I've seen 84 Charles Barkley's making a whole 300,000 for the year. I'm good. This is the era right now. Right, yeah. So I'd rather get drafted in this era and my attitude and personality, Houston. I can bully through them, right? Yeah, I can bully through them, become the franchise guy.

If not, I want to stay with my warriors. Brent, how about yourself? What's that, 2010? Yeah, I mean, I would say maybe like 2014, 2015. Who? Era to get drafted in. That's kind of the same, almost, right? Like, cuz you know, like you said, the money is more. And then in 2010, I wanted to go to the Knicks at seven.

And they picked Jordan Hill. So I always wanted to be a Knick. But what was the team? They had, I think Raven Felden was the point at the time. They didn't really have anybody. Yeah, it was just perfect. D'Antoni was the coach at the time. So coming in as a rookie, like, yeah.

I like D'Antoni coaching style. He let you get buckets. Yeah. I mean, I would love to play for him because I'm just going to shoot the ball. Yes. It don't matter, to be honest. It don't matter what coach I have. I was going to do my thing. I would have learned the offense to the point where I get to do my thing.

If I know you got a cut here or something like that, I'm fucking up all that. That was my thing. That's my trick. I knew the play so well that I knew where to cut and cheat and do all that. I knew the players. He's right-handed. I run right through that right hand. That lady's cut off, my man. Give me that.

Run that. All right. so last question. This is from Demori Tiger. I hope I'm saying your name correct. You think more point centers are going to take the league by storm? Is the traditional center a dinosaur? You know, when it comes to just, I mean, there's going to be more point types, but that's, I mean, you're talking about some kid who's been doing that since he was little.

What he's doing, you can't duplicate, so don't even try it. You're not going to be able to get some guy in the NBA and say, all right, be Jokic. Jokic has been Jokic from the beginning. Fat little kid who's playing, he's doing his thing. So that skill's been put into him from an early age. I mean, we have a better chance of getting a Shaquille O'Neal style before we get a Jokic style. A guy we just passed it to that's going to be down there just trying to bully everybody. I think the

European style of basketball is slowly going to merge over here. The more players that we get from over there, and I just feel like at some point, the kids are going to like that kind of game. At some point, it's going to be cool to be able to do everything. You know what I mean? So I

feel like once we realize that's good basketball, it's going to be cool to be able to do everything. You know what I mean? So I feel like once we realize that's good basketball, like it doesn't matter how big or how tall you are, being a passer is awesome. It's dope. Being a shooter is dope. It doesn't matter if you're a center. And I think that once the youth realizes that having more weapons will also get you more opportunities and more money, I think everybody will work on their game. Yeah.

And I think just the way they develop overseas is just different. I was going to say not America because- The way they develop is just... I'm telling you, you pick the best five overseas players against American players, I think we might have a little issue. The best five? The best five European players in the NBA against the best five NBA players in America I think we will have an issue They plan they plan that they're playing the game better. They're in it. They just unselfish like they play my mom, huh?

Okay. Well the guy who just won, okay? Jamal Murray Where's the more from Canada? He's in there Luca. Okay? Embiid and beat the Greek freak. Luca. Okay. He's at two. Embiid. Embiid. The Greek freak. Okay, so that's five. Okay.

So you got two point guards, right, and three centers? All right, cool. Good luck. Okay. And who are you bringing to that? Because we're going to get everything off the rebound and going. So I don't know what. So, well, I got two shooters at the front that can go get it with any

guard in the league. I know who we got, but go ahead. I'm just saying, it's not going to be as easy as you think. If you're picking the best five European players in the NBA against the best five NBA players, them Europeans ain't fucking around, man. We'll beat the shit out of them.

I ain't even got to name five. That was just because. I ain't even got to name five. We just, that's just because. Just looking at how, just looking at the Olympic teams. I don't even got to come with nobody. Just looking at the Olympic teams alone, like how we're struggling. Who got all gold? Who's getting the gold? We're struggling to hold our position at the top.

So why don't they just go- I know every trophy we get looks like this. So why don't they just go USA versus just international? And then the international just fuck all the countries. I just know every- Get all them together. Every trophy looks like this. So why don't they just go USA versus just international? And then the international just fuck all the countries. I just know every international. Get all of them together. Every trophy looks like this. Go all international.

I just want to see it one time. All international five versus the NBA five. Yeah, an actual team. Let us do this. Let us build more than one team. Why can't the USA build more than one team? Don't other countries do that? Not for the Olympics.

Should we break off and make our own country? Not for the Olympics? What you mean break? No. It's one country. I mean don't don't other don't other countries Know California could break off. No, I'm talking about like NBA we can see the two teams and this is like the northern part Team is silver and no top NBA player talking about I'm on this one and I'm on the best one. That sounds like segregation. Yeah. Just one group is a little bit better than the other group. And then we'll see who meet in the finals. Oh, no. I'm just saying. It'll be USA versus USA.

We'll get wins, man. That's exactly why we're struggling to keep our position at the top in the NBA. We are. We don't put our best players on. Okay. And when we did, we still struggled. Who? The team with LeBron and all them when they went down there and played.

It wasn't the best team. It doesn't matter. It wasn't the best players in the NBA. That's who we sent over there. Kobe wasn't even on that team. That's who we sent over there. I don't care who we sent. I'm saying the best.

They're putting the best product. They're putting the best players in their country. We're not. Okay. You know what I mean? We come out here and we flex on them. Like, who's on the team now? We're going to have like who?

What center? We're going to have some dude who don't even start on his team, shit like that. You know, we're doing favors for uncles and shit. That's what we do over here. But if you think about it, we're really the best. We should be able to have our B team go over there and beat them. That's what we've been doing. We've been beating them with our B team.

Barely. That's okay. Barely. Put a little B team go over there and beat them. That's what we've been doing. We've been beating them with our B team. Barely. It's okay. Barely. Put a little B team, a little fit. There's sinners that's been, there's people on the team that's been playing that's never made an all NBA team or all-star team, but they make an Olympic team. That's how good we are.

That's how good we are. I think the American players are in trouble in these next couple years. You're crazy. I'm telling you. The American players are going to be a lot of European. If the game changes, yeah. The only reason is because we don't, we play a lot of, we play a lot of one-on-one basketball. We're our last Olympic team. We play a lot of one-on-one basketball in the NBA.

That's how good we are. Yeah, it's a nasty game. We can beat them one, we can beat, we can go one on five. This is not basketball though. It's not good basketball. So last Olympic team, we're going alphabetical order. Bam, Devin Booker, KD, Jeremy Grant, Draymond Green. Who?

Drew Holiday. Hold on, you gotta slow down. We gotta see these. Say the first one. So Bam. There we go. Devin Booker. Uh-huh.

KD. Uh-huh. Jeremy Grant. Grant, damn. That's two. Draymond Green. Three. Drew Holiday. Four. Kelden Johnson. Who? San Antonio Spurs. Who? Zach Levine. Dame Lillard. JaVale McGee.

Chris Middleton. Jason Tatum. Come on, man. Seven. How many people's on that team? You're also a testament to how much we don't even care about our basketball. So that's just 12. 12. 12 players on the team. You're also a testament to how much we don't even care about our basketball. So this is 12. 12. 12 players on the team.

Eight of them. Eight of the players. We'll say seven. We'll say Drew Holiday is still a good player. Seven of them, I don't even know who, like, are they in the NBA still? We don't know who they are. Are they all stars? Are they all NBA players?

What are they? But they're making it to go defend the honor. They want gold, so. I know who they are. There's only one person who I know. Are they all stars? Are they all NBA players? What are they? But they're making a team to go defend the honor. They want gold, so. I know they want gold. Of course they want gold. I'm just- Because we like that. We only needed the full we had.

But can we beat them if they all came together? Like how we all come together as one team. If all the country's like, yo, we just don't have 10. Whoa, hold on. That's not fair though. It's like Detroit. It's like Detroit. That Detroit like Detroit. Oh, how's that not fair? We Stay in America. There's 50 countries How many and there's one player out of every country? No, it's like there could be two. Okay, okay, too

Like all the saw boys. It could have been good three of them. Okay, it's two of them. It's two It's two Lakers. There's two Boston players on that. It's not the same. You got two Country bro, you got the play don't have that many good players how many good players in Greece? That's what I'm saying. We got one you get all he needs honest Serbia. Let's go and in this Slovenia That's three players right there Canada, Italy longer than you I'm telling you the fang will have at least two people, okay Turkey it would be the shit out there, bro. Oh, no, I think that we will

I don't know. No, it ain't no be no kick. Yeah, it won't be a cake. Please them Europeans 17 We're being messing We put our top, we put the top top 20. The top top is winning championships and getting MVPs every year over here. I'm talking about the seven players that they had on the team we just had. We're not talking about that. There's like three dudes I literally didn't even know they played in the NBA. You lost focus. There's three dudes I didn't even know they was in the NBA. Thought it was like hybrid college players.

Like really very advanced. Really very advanced. Like a Miami Heat squad. That's what that goddamn USA team. Still catching strays. Still. One day after losing the NBA. When we put our team out there, like when Kobe, like think about it, Kobe had to come

and show them like, what's happening? We don't have a Kobe. The Mamba's here. We don't have a Kobe. The Mamba's here. The whole world was fucking shook. The Mamba's happening? We don't have a the mob was here We don't have a the mob was it the whole world fucking shook. We don't have mom was here We don't have one Kobe on this. Did y'all see that the mama came everybody said what did he say when he played against pockets? I'm running through his chest. He sucks How much we went by guarantee we won by like 30

Championship game nothing. No, we went like a like a like a I know my team I ate or 10 That American shit, how much did we win by? I guarantee we won by like 30. That championship game? No, I think we won by eight. No, but when he called us off. Like eight? He said, I know my teammate. Like eight or 10? I'm gonna run through him, punch through his chest blade.

He gonna be done for the, he gonna be done for the, and what happened? Yeah. Mm-hmm. We don't have that though. I know. We don't have that in America.

Yeah. That guy's gone. I just can't believe you don't know that we playing bad basketball over here. There's a lot of bad basketball over here. Terrible basketball. Yeah. This season's been believe you don't you don't know that we playing bad basketball over here's a lot of bad basketball Terrible best. Yeah, this season's been terrible bad basketball you go This is bad water Europeans coming here for our money cuz it's money Basketball because you guys pay more you guys pay more we pay more because we just pay more but that don't mean that when you watch

European basketball it is such good basketball. Like, it's good basketball. What's crazy is they can come over here and be the best, but we can't go over there and be the best. What? Who can't? I don't think a lot of the top guys will go overseas and be the best. You want to be the best over there, Katie? You want to be... You crazy as hell.

Okay. The way they play, the style of play. You actually have to pass the ball to win. The style of play is different. They're going to lock in on you. To win, you have to pass the ball to win. The style of play is different. They're going to lock in on you. To win, you have to pass the ball. You don't know nothing about that. Yeah.

Stop, y'all. Stop. Like, y'all, look, it's like watching Princeton, right? Like, this shit look good because there ain't no athletes over there, man. It's just good basketball. Even if you watch little kids. Like, I enjoy good basketball. Even if you're, like, 11-year-olds, 12, like, whatever age you are, good basketball is good basketball, even if you watch little kids, like I enjoy good basketball, even if you're like 11-year-olds,

12, like whatever age you are, good basketball is good basketball. Are you comparing them to 11, 8-year-olds? No, I'm comparing good basketball. It's European players that can come over here and play that just decide to stay over there, that can actually really, okay, okay. There are European basketball players that just don't come over here. They get paid a million dollars over there.

They can come over here and get 10, 12 million a year. They just don't want, no. You need to see it. All right. You need to see it. I played in China. He played a pickup game. You played a pickup game. You played a pickup game. I seen a jab left.

Fall. God damn it. God damn it. God damn it. You can't move left or right for shit. Don't compare China to the rest of the world. I'm just saying, man. Don't compare China to the rest of the world. I'm just saying, man. Don't compare China to the rest of the world. This sounds like a great conversation

for tomorrow's episode. Oh, and we're going to do our top 10. What are they, top 10 point guards? Already did my top 10. We got to wait until Thursday. I'm in chat. Actually, I'm going to be in the chat tomorrow. We got to wait until Thursday for Brandon

to come back to the show. I'm not going to be in the chat. How you going to put yours in the chat? I put it in the chat. He already did. I put it in the chat already. You already did? Yeah, we're going to put it on the show. Already got my 10. This is what you call a to put yours in the chat? I put it in the chat. He already did. You already did?

Yeah, we're going to put it on the show. I already got my 10. This is what you call a tease, ladies and gentlemen. See, y'all got to stay with us all week. Is that going to be tomorrow or Thursday? You tell me, Gil. You were the boss. I mean, I got to come tomorrow.

That's fine. Thursday. We can do it Thursday. Thursday? Everybody should hear Thursday. I'm not here. I'm leaving. I have stuff to do.

Gil, you vetoed the powers that be. It was supposed to be our last show today, but you still firm on it So the last shows Thursday. Yeah This episode of girls arena, we will see y'all tomorrow. allegedly. We're going to see if we get this back right. Appreciate you on the dog fantasy. Peace to you. Peace to you. Peace to you. Peace to you.

Peace to you. Peace to you. Peace to you. Peace to you. Peace to you.