Gil's Arena - Pat Bev BLOWS UP The Gil's Arena Season Finale!!

Episode Date: August 31, 2023

Gil's Arena is LIVE For Our Season Finale Party as Gilbert Arenas and the Gil's Arena Crew celebrate a great first season and close out the summer vibes. NBA Topics Include the retirement of NBA Referee Eric Lewis, The Record Breaking crowd for Nebraska Women's Volleyball, and NBA training camps. Please Like and Subscribe!! Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GILSARENA and get a $100 first deposit match: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena Gil’s Arena premieres every Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. SUBSCRIBE:  / @gilsarena   APPAREL PARTNERS TUFF CROWD: https://www.tuffcrowd.com/ ADIDAS: https://www.adidas.com/us/agent-gil-restomod-basketball-shoes/ THE HOMETOWN FAVORITES https://thehometownfavorites.com/ Gr8ness: https://www.gr8nss.store/ Pre-Order Rashad's Book Here - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CD9ZQ3HD?ref_=pe_3052080_276849420 Chapters Show Start 0:00:00 Intro 0:06:33 Gil Inhales Grass 0:09:43 Gil's Broken Backboard 0:14:15 Pat Bev Pulls Up To The Arena 0:16:35 Pat Discusses His Viral Meme With Eric Lewis 0:18:59 Mark Cuban Traded Players Because of Weed 0:27:01 Pat Bev Talks Influence of Locker Room Leaders 0:49:39 Pat Bev Reveals The Blueprint Lebron Gave Him 1:06:04 Pat Bev on His NBA Career 1:12:09 Pat Bev On Being The League's Best Trash Talker 1:16:21 The Crew Discuss Their Paths To The NBA 1:24:42 Anthony Edwards is The Next Michael Jordan 1:29:16 Pat Bev on Russell Westbrook 1:39:02 Pat Bev and Brandon Jennings Address Their Beef 1:52:08 Pat Bev and Rashad McCants AIR IT OUT!!! 1:58:20 Pat Bev Talks Mood Heading Into 76ers Season 2:17:11 Mostly Fans 2:19:26 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Woo! We did it. Last show of the season. We made it. We show of the season. We made it. We didn't get canceled. Monumental. We didn't get canceled yet. Back with the living legend, Gilbert Arenas.

What's up? We got Brandon Jennings. What up, what up? We got Rashawn McCants. We got Kenya Martin back on the couch for this momentous occasion. And we got all y'all at home. Appreciate everybody in the chat that's pulled up, that's here with us. We did it.

End of season one. You already know what time it is. We got that 12.5K. We're going to get to that in a second. But before we do all that... Wait, wait, what? Top of the show.

Do you know what time it is? We're not saving it. I'm the only one sweating right now. Top of the top. We got a special guest that's supposed to be pulling up. We'll see if the security guard lets him in, but you know we had to go out with a bang for our last show.

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Better be a running back. Unless it's Jimmy G. We might not see it. And as always, we're doing Mostly Fans. This is going to be a special Mostly Fans because it's our last show of the season before we come back for season two. So go ahead, drop your questions in. If you use your underdog's fantasy username in the question and we use it on the show at any point, you got a $50 bonus coming your way. Oh shit,

I see they coming. Bring them shots. I see they lurking. I got to take shots. You got to take shots before you take shots. I got to take shots before I take shots. See, I got to take shots before I take shots. He got to be drunk before he get high.

Thank you. Oh lord. Oh, he's a- Oh, he got the gills arena on the shot glass you. Oh, Lord. Oh, it got the Gills Arena on the shot glass. It got the Gills Arena. It got the Gills Arena on the shot glass. Huh? We playing no games around here? What the hell y'all give me?

What y'all give me? I ain't toastin'. My brothers. One love. Hey, we got it. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. Oh, shit.

I'm over there. Ah, cheers. Cheers. Gentlemen, I'll have one sip with y'all. Oh, shit. Oh, Lord. Let's be real. Let's be real. Oh, that was a real one. I thought that was good. you. Oh shit. Oh That was a real one I thought that was Apple juice prop water prop water. I love that it was not better 30 bad at all Y'all know this is a a.m. Show hurt on a Thursday was one o'clock somewhere

Whoo, and as all you can watch the show live with us. Oh, yeah, check it out on Damn, I'm already lit, Gil. Spotify. I don't do this. I don't do it. I'm a family man. Spotify, Apple Music, wherever you get your podcasts from.

So now's the moment of truth. Gil, we told the fans to pull up, and they listened. Monday, we set a new record of over 15,000 live viewers on the show. You said if we got over 12.5,000, you would hit the blunt. The people have spoken. Yeah.

And the time has come. Get to smoking. No, no, no. I was going to ask this. Listen. No, no, no. No, no, no. He got a question.

Get to smoking. No, no, no. I can listen. If I can make all three of these, I don't smoke or I can give out 10 grand. 10 grand. They don't want your money can give out 10 grand. 10 grand. Gil, they don't want your money. Nobody wants your money. Nobody wants your money.

Everybody in the chat is a baller. Everybody in the chat is doing well for themselves. Niggas don't want your money. Gil. This is alarming number two. Before you go, before you go, though, can we say this real quick? Me and this guy, BJ, worked hard for this. Right? Okay. So when we was at 11

Had come together say how we gonna get this nigga over 12 5 How we I said look you're gonna be Kobe. I'm gonna be feel gonna draw up this place We're gonna draw up this play and we gonna get this nigga triggered enough to get this one fucking beat these views up Let me have you read now this moment and we got it done because this Kobe right there. I'm letting you know BJ He said look this what I'm gonna do. Mm-hmm. We're gonna talk about that motherfucker USA versus do well. Oh Yeah We know how to push them I don't push your buttons The chat y'all be paying attention.

The company, what is it? Mood. Mood came through. Mood came through, and the package was here yesterday. Yeah, right on time. I don't know how y'all got my address. How you get my address? I don't know how you get my address, but Mood shipped weed products to me.

Damn. That should be illegal. We are in California. No, you don't have to say shit. We are in California. Thank you. You got to sign for it. You got to give them the signature.

All right. So I got... Just pick one. You're stalling right now. Okay, I'm going to do focus so I can focus. Okay. You're stalling. Oh, you got them beat?

Oh, that's a good color. Now you give them that one. Are they watching? You know how to light it? Are they watching. They watching. You know what you doing? Oh, he lit it. Gil, chill. Come on, Gil. It ain't lit. Light it and smoke it.

You gotta light it and smoke it, my G. Light it, don't burn it. Remember on Friday he was like, hey, hey. Come on, light it and smoke it. You gotta. Light it, don't hide it. Remember on Friday, he was like, hey, hey. No, not at all. Come on, light it and smoke it. You gotta let it get. You know you went to Arizona. Y'all shit is some bullshit, huh?

No, you gotta light it again. Oh, light it while smoking? No, just light it. Light it. Hold it there for about five seconds. Light it until it's red, bro. Light it until it's red. They said no CBD.

Who? Who? Who? Who? Yeah! Pass that. Okay, this is red. They said no CBD. Who? Who? Who? Pass that, you're supposed to pass it now. Can you verify? Tastes like out though. Nah, I'm just playing, nah, it's cool.

Joe, hit the motherfucking button. Welcome to the family. Welcome to the family. COVID do you try to use that you make it let y'all find out I got COVID on it won't Yeah, we are going to the protocol. So if you had it in your patient zero,, y'all don't do this now. I'm a smoker. Welcome to the family girl Oh, you're degenerate. All right. Oh Mark Cuban. I watch it. We did what we said we was gonna do Mark, you know, take the kick in though. Oh, you know, two three two three minutes Once you in the chicken coop, oh my bad

Go Let's just talk about our feelings Y'all want to do a show we do go sit here get get It's look like it come back round and I do I said one time Let's just talk about our feelings. Do y'all wanna do a show or we just go sit here and get turned up? No, no, we gonna do a show. Okay, we gotta do a show. It look like it come back round. Yeah, it do. I said one time. You skip it, Gil.

You go ahead and skip it. You'll put it out? Yeah, put it out. Good job, bro. Ladies and gentlemen. I'm a big boy now. Gil, a man of his word. We gonna wait to see for the effect to turn.

I'm already a little lit. I don't do this, as you know. Good job, Gil. Proud of you, man. Proud of you, man. I'm a real man now. So, look, it's been hotter than shit in the San Fernando Valley. We've been routinely over 105 degrees this week.

But despite the elements, buckets must be got. 0 for 1. We got to look at Gil's backboard real quick. It's just like every What's just like every every seven minutes We got a special you still got to get miked up It was just like every seven every 10 every 10 minutes Do we got the video of Gil's backboard It's a white man sporting you oh man, I'm three for three. So y'all got three shots. I'm two for two. You got two shots. I'm two for three.

I ain't trying to make it. I ain't trying to make it. Ah! Three for three, baby. We're having two-year backboard. Same time. We tied. So I guess the day we went to Baltimore.

10,000 backboards. The day we went to Baltimore. I'm home for four. That's how you feel? I guess it was 110 degrees. Can I get some water? My kid said the backboard shattered. By itself?

Too hot. So I've been shooting still, so I don't care. Tell the truth. I don't need the backboard. He ain't telling the truth. Did the backboard shattered by itself. So I've been shooting still so I don't care You'll tell the truth. I need a bank telling the truth Did the backboard shatter cuz the bank shot or brick which one I do a lot of you know, this is possible I'm bricks. That's why I don't phase me fam. It look like the men's I don't phase me now I've been burnt off. That's the new that's the new one. Oh, we got this is so soon. We got some water Oh, we got some water. Thank you. We got this that don't faze me. Come on. I don't need to I don't need the backboard What a Ned said All net I don't need the back we hydrating

We got a lot of shit to get into we got a very special one that is pulled up to the show Entering this 12th season in the league. The definition of an underdog grinding his way to becoming a three-time all-defensive selection. Appreciate it. Appreciate you, brother. Long time. How you?

Big dog. What's up, dude? Congrats, too. Congrats, too, guy. Three-time all-defense selection. When he's not hooping, you can catch him Yes, congrats to get a little quick smoke Three time all defense selection when he's not hoping you can catch him on his Pat Bev podcast just got renewed for season two Y'all was good to go it was cool Patrick Beverly welcome to the arena. I appreciate you guys having me. Thank you so much.

No problem, no problem. Appreciate it. You know, we got everybody in the same room. Can we get a mental group hug before we start, though? Smoke free. Let's pray. Pray to Jesus. Yeah.

But how you doing, Pat? What's going on with you? Man, grinding. Obviously, priority time basketball and, you know, having a second gig of, you know, the pod. So, yeah, just grinding. Mixed that with a little bit of family time and a little me time. That's the day. For sure. So you had Gil on the show.

Yeah. He blessed us with it. Blessed. You know, he came back and blessed us. You're an honorable man, a man of your word. Came through. But what have you learned from just doing that podcast side? Really nothing. Obviously, I didn't take it as something I wanted to like be

good at or get something from. I just figured I can kind of even the scales with my voice or not even my voice, a basketball player's voice in the media instead of actually mainstream media or people who haven't played the game. Obviously, I've played with a ton of people. I have a lot of connections and, you know, people that I've been around in the NBA. So my stories, they, you know, I'm able to tell them real easy without, you know, hurting anybody's feelings. How does it feel, though? Lit as fuck.

Yeah, right? Yeah, I mean, I'm more famous from the pod than actually basketball. It's very, very crazy. But that's just the nature of the business. It shows you the strong wave of the social media era. So I've been fortunate, though. So you became one of the biggest memes in NBA Twitter history last season, but we got to talk about why. I see it? Can I see it?

No, we're going to get to it. We're going to get to it. So NBA referee Eric Lewis has announced his retirement from the league. Bro, I need a camera. Oh, man. And in turn, the league has ended their investigation on him and his burner account. So that was a statement that was released. In light of the decision, the NBA's investigation into social media activity has been closed.

Frank Pantangeli for Godfather fans out there. Unfortunate. They had to talk. Godfather fans out there. Unfortunate. They had to talk. Unfortunate. So, you know, we got that. Now, Lewis spent 19 seasons as a ref.

He officiated more than 1,100 games, 82 playoff games, but he last worked game one of the Western Conference Finals on May 16th. He got benched

after the NBA launched an investigation to an alleged burner account being operated by Lewis that was way too thirsty for the Celtics. Now, Lewis is the infamous ref from that Lakers-Celtics game. Pat, you had to put him on blast. We see the no-call then. My favorite moment in the history of the league. So, pause that.

Hey, is there no irony here? Oh, yeah. We're going to do it. We're going to get to it. What's the irony? You're still in the league. We want to save your bread. No, I mean. The irony is I'm wearing the motherfucking shirt of the show me proof.

Oh, shit. I didn't even notice that. Wait, what the fuck? It's irony. They sleep. They shit. I didn't even notice that. Wait, what the fuck? It's iron. They sleep. They sleep. I didn't even notice. I didn't even notice that.

No, I'm not going to front. I did not notice that. Yeah, y'all not paying attention. I won't show proof. Hey, he wanted proof there. I want proof other places. Everybody want proof. Where the iron at?

So when news broke of Lewis's retirement, the internet did what the internet does. One of my favorite moments. We got the photo. Oh. Oh. Hey. That's hilarious.

That's funny. Straight to the rafters. In the TD Garden. Hey, man, I think I'm high. Yeah, you are. You are. Me too. Like, I don't know if it's high or drunk.

Your eye is drunk. You're sweating under your eye. You're high. You just took two shots. Oh, OK. You're sweating under your eye. You're high. You live, turn, and play. It's all right. So, Pat. You swayed none, your eye, you high. You live turning black.

It's all right. So Pat, we'll start with you. Obviously, say whatever you feel comfortable saying. We want to protect your bad, but what are your thoughts on Eric Lewis retiring? I mean,

hell of a run at it, right? African-American referee. I mean, that's my modest answer. That's the answer I'm supposed to give, right?

But the real answer is this though, like, so, if anyone who understands basketball and was watching during that time of basketball the lakers was going through a little strut during this time i think it might have been i don't know 14 13 days before trade deadline uh 22 days before trade deadline

something like that this is our basically our last road trip right this is the road trip ad's coming back uh guys are healthy, people are accepting their roles, Russ is accepted coming off the bench. This is a pivotal time for us in the basketball season. Anyone who's a Hooper understands that East Coast road trip is very important, you know what I'm saying, just for the look of things. We start off Boston, right? We start off Boston, in the hole early, you know what I'm saying, came back. You think, this is probably one of my, fuck the camera, this is probably one of my best games I ever played with the Lakers. Yeah. You understand? We win that game, a back-to-back

against the Brooklyn Nets. Maybe the trade, maybe the shit like that doesn't happen. But obviously you look at it from a position of, oh, okay, he took the camera, but it was so much emotion behind that. Fuck the camera. I'm trying to win a game. You know what I'm saying? But the craziest thing is this. Where the fuck did I get the camera from? Like, why is no one asking that? Right?

Everybody wants to win the game by the camera. You know what I'm saying? Like, a camera had to be given to me. I didn't go give me this fucking camera. You know what I'm saying? So, like, I don't know. It was something fishy about the whole situation. Unfortunate, though.

Very unfortunate. Well, where did the camera come from? Somewhere. Somebody. Somebody. Somebody. Somebody. Somebody.

Somebody. It wasn't his. Right. I didn't pull out my file. He didn't have that bitch on the bench shaking pictures by himself recording. It's not mine. Somebody gave it to him. That is the thing that no one ever pays attention to, that there's things during seasons that keep teams together and

Break teams up right and like you said is so instead of going I don't know what we go for and what's two and three or three would have been for one for them before one for Maybe we're talking about that. Yeah, maybe would have been final Yeah, you know, you know you get that confidence you went for you know, maybe you get that last one But you know, but it is what it is. It's just unfortunate that I I lost money with that I got a tech you feel me. I ain't lost a quarter from that I could have put that somewhere my kid my kids damn show need 2,500 you feel I'm saying, you know I'm saying so like very unfortunate But you know, it's the part of the business. The only thing I hate about like this referees themselves, right?

If you know you fucked up, just take it, right? If you come with me to camera and I see it, I'll be like, oh shit, my bad. My bad, right? Well, I'm gonna give you a tech because you right. So I fucked up, so I'm wrong, and then you correct me, then I'm gonna give you a tech again, so I'm penalizing you twice.

That's the shit I be hating with referees. But I think it's more of what the name on the back of the jersey is, right? It is. So I think if it's anyone in this room, and we. But I think it's more of what the name on the back of the jersey is, right? It is. So I think if it's anyone in this room, and we argue a call, it's going to be different than, I don't know, Halliburton. Or it's going to be different than Brunson. It's going to be different than T.J. McConnell, you know, arguing a call. But I think it's more of history, you know.

Because when I pushed DeAndre Ayton, right, I got fined. Damn Java rank got fine with a gun and I'm like what the fuck you know I'm saying But now it was because of my prior history Like you have to understand Let me ask this then from a Boston standpoint is it a foul? Yes, yes from from if I'm playing with Boston. No, is it a foul? No, yes. From, if I'm playing with Boston. No. Is it a foul? No. We know that, right?

Of course not. So, from my perspective, looking at it like, all right, it was clearly a foul when you replay it, right? But in the midst of the game, how it looked, how the play needed to go down, no call. So, my reaction initially was, that's a no call. Let it go. But then we go back and we read. This is the replay era. So we can replay it and be like, yo, this nigga Pat pissed

because that was clearly a fucking foul. But it wasn't no call. But then I see people who've showed cameras before, the referees, or showed iPads before, and it wasn't a tech He ain't have to take you all in that's all I said is probably had to do is say Pam. No, no I'm Pat. Yeah, we're gonna do say Pat. No. Yeah, and I would have boom boom straight like Pat No, that's bad. Yeah, that's the only question you deserve that right? For sure, you're not supposed to do that. Right and And that's the funny thing, because Eric is a cool dude, though. That's what I'm saying.

Off out of it, he's a cool dude. So just all refs, you should know the game. You should be in tune with the game itself. Like, you know you fucked up. And here comes someone. If you give them a tech, you're giving a point to the other team. And that's why he should be like,

Right, so just, hey, relax. Fuck off, whatever. Just fuck off. Look straight like he's just See how we can respect Like eating gotta look at you just know you know Y'all don't know about the we know I fucked up think about what he thinking in a situation though He like I fucked up that bad Where you come to him and like don you like... He want the baseline ref.

You know, he want the baseline ref. He was the sideline ref. He was the sideline ref. So he can't see the play. And I go to him based off, you know, we being real, you know, based off, come on, man, you know what's going on. Yeah, real shit. Yeah.

Not more of I'm trying to show you up. So I was just, you know, I was shocked when that happened. But, you know, that's just how the NBA is, man. It's those little tiny things that can, you know, I don't know show you up. So I was just you know, I was shocked when that happened, but you know That's just how the NBA is man. It's those little little tiny things that can you know, I don't know it changes Change the whole time and just his name obviously man. I even like, you know, like even think about what like Draymond, right? You know, uh the hit with LeBron Changes the ring, you know, so those things like just don't don't know. Yeah until you in it So let's talk about Pat Bev podcast I want a shot

Good you keep going you sweaty already, though. Don't worry about me. I'm good. I'm here to help me This is your arena. He wants a shot Thanks, I'm a dumb as a do h2o Unfortunately, is that a shot? Yeah, I heard that's a club. I'm going to get with Pat Baffigian. I want with Pat Baffigian too, but this is the last show. You got the Pat Baffigian podcast. You'll have Mark Cuban on this week. So you were talking to him just about player vices and how that impacts from a team standpoint,

and this is what he had to say. No lie, I've traded guys because he smoked too much. Teams get their own culture. If you got some young dudes on there that are just figuring out, smoke some, but don't know what the team culture is, right, or the NBA culture is, and you got one dude that's just, you know, you walk down the hall in the hotel and you know he's on that floor and there's no doubt about it. And then all of a sudden these other kids start picking up on it.

And that's kind of, you see them coming out of their room. You see them, you know, a little bit red-eyed coming to practice all of a sudden, these other kids start picking up on it. And that's kind of, you see them coming out of their room. You see them, you know, a little bit red-eyed coming to practice all of a sudden. You don't want them going down that road. I mean, everybody smokes, right? It's not about that. But there's smoking. There's how powerful the shit you're doing is. And then there's how much you do.

You know, if you get past that level where you got to look at the bigger picture, right? That's just not the culture Okay, so now if luca was burning it down He getting traded no What was what was his answers though How much you doing how heavy it is and how often you're doing it? So so the original question was my bad my bad. No, go doing it. So the original question was... My bad. My bad. Go ahead. So the original question was, as an owner, how do you separate the human aspect of it

versus the business aspect of it, right? So I had a list of things. I had trading. I had coach hiring. I had coach firing. I had personality of team. You might not like a guy. I mean, you might love a guy

motherfuckers on the team might not fuck with the guy how does the human part of it you have in that relationship or the business side say you know what fuck that I still got it so that's initially where the question came from now when he when he's breaking down the answer my question was a guy who averaged because I pronounced it right I didn't say a guy who averaged 30 the question was if you watch the pod the question was a guy who averaged, because I pronounced it right. I didn't say a guy who averaged 30. The question was, if you watched the pod, the question was a guy who averaged 17. You know what I'm saying?

So obviously if we say, did Kevin Durant on your team? Obviously, you know, we all know the answers to that. We not blind to that. My question was, that's why y'all got to watch the pod. No, watch the whole clip. We watch it, we just. Everybody in this motherfucker. why y'all got to watch the pod. We watch it. Everybody in this motherfucker. You can't just listen to clips, man. You feel me?

Y'all wouldn't listen to that if it was time to pay grandma bills or get grandma healthcare. Y'all listen to the whole thing. Don't play it. You feel me? When y'all just looking at the clips, it's real important. You can have a lot of more insight. The insight was a guy who averaged 17 points per game. Yeah, 17 points per game. yeah 17 points per game you can

get your ass up out of here you know if we don't need you so that was that was the the question even at 17 though we don't but what if we them 17 matter just take i'm gonna use just take yeah just i can only think of one player that was on that team just in that organization that he will be probably be talking about. Okay, so Did he often say I'm probably traded guys too. Yeah. Yeah, but the guy doing his job and it's not interfering damn What is how much he doing when he doing it and how strong it is? I'm sorry, but I'm showing up and it's not an issue My guy not coming to work high and I'm saying he doing his fucking job. It doesn't matter But we all talking about the impact it has

on the rest of the team. That guy might be fine doing it, but if he's influencing the younger dudes. But how? See, that's the point. See, they always try to use that shit as a crutch. They gotta make a decision. Yeah, it's a fucking choice.

You want out of college? Nigga, I'm not holding a gun to your head like, nigga, hit this blunt, nigga. You know what I'm saying? Like, no, it's a choice as a rookie I'm going for myself as a rookie. I had a choice. I didn't smoke before I got to the NBA. I tried it didn't like it Mm-hmm My after my rookie year is when I just I made a choice

No, I'm saying the person I was with didn't like which we think she we're gonna go to this shit No, you better do it. Mm-hmm. Like no I made a choice I didn't smoke during the season But I wish I could have I'm saying to avoid drinking alcohol and Anti-inflammatories and all that, you know I'm saying so it's bigger than just that but if we do every 17 you're doing this job I'm making it if he's helping your team and he's not showing up

Like he said eyes read Floor smelling like dope. I get it then you embarrass the organization and it's then it's bigger than that so is It's the disrespectful aspect of it that he's not throwing the light. That's what it is Yeah, of course, I'm a traitor no matter what if you being this fuck you disrespect my organization because I own this then yeah I'm gonna get rid of it. You know say so. Yeah, I don't know I don't want to sound like I'm sighing with him at all, but there is an influential factor to the To the smoking right? No, it's let's just say

If I fuck with if I fuck with certain guys on the team He's grown and I'm a rookie and I come in and certain guys I ain't cool with. But if you a smoker, you know smoking bring you together. Some people smoke and it's a group of guys that smoke and they all cool with each other because they all go to the room

and they smoke. Then there's the niggas that don't smoke. Probably two or three of them, they go to their room, they do their own thing. But if you want to get, like if I'm trying to get into the circle, and I'm like, yo, I'm trying to hang with Kenya,

I'm trying to hang with such and such, or whoever it is in there smoking. As a team, I've been in a situation where I was the young nigga, and these were the old niggas, and I wanted to be cool, I wanted to get cool with them. But if you got old, good niggas and I wanted to be cool. I wanted to get cool with them But if you got old good niggas, yeah and feel great You feel me? I had Shay. I had Anthony Edwards. You feel me like I

Ain't smoking on the mouth. Oh, yeah, so good. I ain't take let me finish my point My point though, thank you My point being is when you are a younger guy and you're looking up to the older guys that are on your team, outside of that one star guy, right? That's the guy. He's the man. Move him out the way. Everybody else got their own little circle, their own little sex. So it's like, where do you fit as a young guy?

So you don't smoke, you don't drink, you don't do none of that. But then you going out with such and such, y'all out partying, you don't really drink and they like, here's a shot. Like that's called peer pressure. Yeah, but we did that. But hold on. That's what you're trying to fit in. Yeah, you're trying like you as a young fella, you trying to fit in on everything.

Hold on. Everybody's trying to fit in. But let me know. Not really. Why not really? To pass point, right? If you're not Brandon Dennis and you're trying to fit in. But let me... No, not really. Why not really? I'm saying to Pat's point, right? If you're not Brandon Jennings and you're trying to make the team... If I know that...

You got to fit in somewhere because somebody got to vouch for you. Somebody with a voucher has to fit in with me. If you come in and you're 19 and you're 20... That's what I'm saying, but if you're not Brandon Jennings... If you come in and you're 19 and you're 20

and I'm... A second round pick. I'm on your team. Right. You're on my team, right? You're trying to make our team, right? When I smoke, I'm not... It's a me thing.

It's not a... I'm not trying to be cool. I'm not going to invite you over to my room or to my house and... Come here, dog. Come sit right next to me. That's not what I'm saying. I'm not saying that. He's trying to be cool with me. He in he won't of course he won't a circle

Mm-hmm, so he want to be a part of my circle right cuz you say look I'm gonna go smoke about to go smoke in the room and they could be like a word and guess what I'm gonna tell him Uh if he acts come though now young fella before you so the young fella at that point got a choice like everybody We know he got a good But then if I see him doing it and it's affecting what he has what he's trying to accomplish guess what I'm gonna tell him cuz I'm a vet I'm that dude hmm I don't feel you need to cut that out anything but he's not gonna listen to you cuz why not cuz you still gonna be a part of you sir cuz you still smoking and what I'm doing you

still smoke I'm saying but it's still a info on I got grown. I got my money already. But you're still influencing him. He's trying to get to where I am. I know, but if you not smoking, he not smoking. Why not? I'm grown. He is too. Listen, what I eat don't make him shit, bruh. But he is being influenced.

No, that's his fucking, no, it's not. Yes, he, yes. Not by me. Because you smoking. Because I do what I want to do. Even if you saying, young fella, don't do this, woo, woo, woo. Young fella looking at you like, yo, you smoking? Why can't I?

You're not on my level yet. It don't matter about level. Listen, not when it's smoking. Not when it's smoking. Not when it's smoking. If my co-worker can go outside and drink, why can't I? I like to keep my private life. Why can't I?

Because I don't know what the owner of the team is doing on his spare time, so why the fuck should he know what I'm doing on my spare time? That's why I tell everybody, if you got advice, bro, do that shit at home, bro. Don't put these folks in your business. Absolutely. Because if you're in the streets, you ain't telling the police where the fuck you're selling that. Keep the folks out your business. So why do rules change when we get money. Yeah, go take around pick right here

Mookie Bay like I got all they smoked weed right hallway done Right whole team smokes weed I didn't smoke obviously that's the first time I hit the blunt Allegedly, Gil. For me, going against motherfuckers, that's high. Easiest way to steal a position is all I'm saying. You're trying to fit in. I'm trying to get a job. This is what I'm saying.

So what I'm saying is I don't give a fuck what. It depends on what your party is. I don't give a fuck. Star player, 20 million, 50 million. They have the leverage. I'm making two, 300,000 that I already spent on an escalator in the chain. I don't have that leverage. So I'm looking for an advantage.

So you want to smoke weed all day before sitting there getting high? I'm one foreign flight and you in private. I want to make you look stupid. You're high, you high, you high, you high. I go from not playing to starting. Just like when you look at my resume, like, how does he start? Because these motherfuckers high all day. They high, they not practicing.

I'm taking their jobs. My thing is the influence. I'm going back to, let's take the smoking out. My girlfriend smoked every single day. Let's take the smoking out. Motherfucking bowls of weed. I had to spend money to buy the weed. I didn't touch nothing. Let's just take the smoking out then girl Look, why do we go to the club and buy bottles who buy bottles? Athletes that go to the club, bro

Does let me prove my point though I was buying bottles Because I was trying to show the other person who was buying bottles I had more money than him. Okay. So whatever it was you was influenced by before you, this is what we did. Niggas in the league went out, bought bottles, got drunk, got bitches, and whoop, whoop, whoop. Let's just say, if it ain't drinking and if it's smoking, switch it up. Like, it's the smoking smoking the influence is the influence If I see this nigga out and he party and he popping bottles. I think I'm like I gotta do that

I'm just talking about influence Oh G. He looking at it like Individually wise what I do don't affect it and the the thing was team wise if it don't affect the team like it like like josh right it's josh howard probably who he was talking about i had him on the team yeah and he was a dog yes i'm gonna fuck that like that was 17 like i remember i played with players who smoked weed at the end of day I'm only judging you on how you come to work Are you working if you work like me and mr. Poling you should talk about it all the time the owner, right? He asked me do I smoke it? I don't touch it. And I do want any of our players and I said this why does it matter?

If I'm passing them in the ball, that means I trust them. Mm-hmm I don't care what they do outside or in the parking lot or because everybody got something they need you up to call 3 a.m. playing a video game that's even worse than you know I'm saying like you know like everyone has something everyone has something so everyone has something it's just you know the work yeah you said the video But that's that's real shit you're right because I played I have two teammates that's what I played video game I'm a five six seven in the morning and my eyes bloodshot red like bags everywhere. So I take blood tests I take blood tests get ready for the season. I take blood tests what the fuck I need to put in my body

Boom boom boom. I want to play more game. Well, they run tests test come back like I'm Pat either you are Stay up all night, or you've been like you've been in war all of your adrenaline The what whatever type that produces adrenaline in your body is like it's going down like what are you doing at night? Playing video games cuz it might seem like I'm chilling, but shit, motherfucker, shoot at you. You over heart racing and all like that. You feel me?

It really actually feels like you're in war. So now when it's time for me to use my adrenaline, maybe I got two quarters of it, but not three or four. You know what I'm saying? So, like, I think, you know, when it comes to vices, obviously you look at smoke

because people, you know, frown upon it. You know what I'm saying? But in all reality, vices are vices. Vices are vices. We had a teammate. Never went out.

Never drank. Nothing. Right? We was in Denver. Decided we're going to let him go out with us. Go out. Stayed up all night. Didn't drink, though.

Went out. Next day had a horrible fucking game. Horrible. Offered from the line. Couldn't hit his ass with both hands, right? We tell him, you know, nice experiment.

First and last time, dog. Right. You know what I'm saying? He got back to what he was doing, you know what I'm saying? Like, influence, of course, you want to try it.

Okay, cool. It ain't for you. You have to be a bad teammate. You have to be a bad teammate to want to try it. Okay, cool. It ain't for you. You have to be only bad, right? You have to be a bad run me to one of our fuck your teammates up But it's awesome. They don't mean think about I mean what you're trying to think about it if I'm smoking I have to be a horrible Teep horrible nigga just to you just keep smoking like yeah, I keep doing that's that's So we

Horrible teammates for having you smoke love No, no, cuz I picked it up myself because you made the bet but now you heard cuz you made the bet right now You heard you made the bet, right? You made the bet right I was you know one twelve thousand and fucking and there's another thing in a chat and if You can be easily that I think you should drink and smoke. I'm just just FYI I just want thought it out if you can be easily that influence. I really don't want you on my team Like if what I'm doing you want and you can be eat that easily in front I tell you not to do it It ain't for you, and I'm telling you why it's not, and you're that easily influenced. I'm going to go probably, you probably need to think about it.

Why is John Morant holding up a gun in the video? Because he ain't got no- His other teammates ain't doing it. Come on now. Huh? He's been influenced. By who? By his teammates.

He fucking rapped. Okay, music. Okay, that's fine. What do you mean that's fine? He's talking about his teammates. That's all right. I'm talking about influence. None of his teammates do that, though. I'm talking about influence. Brain ain't you mean? I'm talking about influence Talking about in brain doing that talking about you can't

We just listen Listen to the same God the one thing you use you can't control influence. What type of influence did cagey? Let me explain it Your son is one guy. He's one kid. One son. And you're a good father. 350 other people. You're a good father. He not going to do it, right? KG, the influence he had on me, right?

Yeah. When I got to Minnesota, first thing I wanted to do was be friends with Ticket. I wanted to get into the greatest of Tickets. So I know I'm under his wing, and he going to show me the ropes. He the best player on the team, and I looked up to him. I'm like, yo, it would be the best shit to be next to Ticket, right? Summertime. I'm with Ticket.

We smoking. Summertime. Summertime is smoke, and then you stop before a certain time, so then when season comes, Ticket wasn't none of those in-season smoking, none of that. He was very straight, boom, boom. But summertime, man, like this was my man. And that's what got up.

Smoking bonds certain people. It's a bond there. Because we can pass, we can share. So was influence good, though? Absolutely. No. Absolutely. It was the best moment for me because I didn't turn into a smoker.

I was already smoking before I met him. So it wasn't about me starting to smoke. It was this is what our bond came from. Our bond came from, hey, shot, come to the crib. Whoop, whoop, whoop. Here go the cold. Man. Boom.

Rolling up. Nigga, y'all bond is y'all play on the same guy's team. No, it's not. No, it's not. No, it's not. No, it's not. It's real niggas sitting together. No, no silly or talking now everybody that hang with ticket Don't smoke his Trenton hassle didn't smoke. No, so Trenton didn't come to smoke

He was cool with Trenton, but the niggas that was there smoke was cool because he was his teammate for a long time Like what else did he like? He knew him before that he was his who we were alone. What does that mean? What does that mean? What did you just he was this who for the same a? Best the bond no, it's not No, it's not cuz he don't see with all his teammates everybody not at the damn crib Yeah, cuz he's a man cuz you know with the niggas you fuck with so much You don't just bond with all the teammates to come over. It was three niggas

They fuck with and that's why I was one of them and that's why I'm getting smoke That's why I like that situation exactly right because for me when I went rookie 12-year pack 16 year total pack Motherfucker the pat and motherfucking college. I ain't gonna lie. I ain't really trying to be cool. I want what you got Mm-hmm. I don't want no influence bro. You smoke good for you. I'm at your neck you feel me so like like he say Everybody different for you. You was okay cool Kgkg when I got drafted LeBron, I'm man how the fuck I'm about to get on this bitch Who I gotta run through to get on this bitch?

Different niggas. Feel me? LeBron was on the team influence. D-Wade was on the team influence. Chris Bosh was on the team influence. Jadonis Haslam was on the team influence. Jamal McGlure was on the team influence. Eddie House.

We talking about Carlos Arroyo pull up red Lamborghini. Nah, fuck that. I'm going to get that. But in order to get that, I got to eat him first. So fuck being cool. I ain't here to really be cool, gang.. I'm going to get that. But I want to get that. I got to eat him first. So fuck being cool. I ain't here to really be cool, gang. I ain't going to lie. I'm here to kind of have that influence you have on the court. I want that.

That's how you get it. How else do you get the influence? Who else is going to teach you how to influence? Everybody come different. How else are you going to get talked? How else are you going to get talked? Everybody's different.'m gonna tell you I had to bring it was a bad influence because I was in his position and I was doing the same thing he was doing what was he

doing look at Nick Young no what was he doing that was my rookie but what what does that mean think about what I'm saying no you're saying I'm you're saying I'm Nick Young when you was yes How when you was a rookie cuz you're far right you was a rookie. I'm a father I didn't follow shit. That was my nigga. He avoids me Be a great player Him as a rookie who was who take it I don't. I don't know. I didn't ask Ticket that. You should have. I just, y'all not even listening to my point. No, I think you need to listen.

Because y'all niggas be so infatuated with trying to prove me wrong. Instead of listening to me say, the smoking bonded us. No. You knew that yourself. Yes. It didn't. It did. Because if he's a real rookie, if he's a real veteran, he would have told you.

That's not what you fucking do right now as a rookie. In the summertime. It don't matter. It don't matter. It don't matter when it is. As a veteran, I can say I fucked Nick Young up. I fucked my vets up. I mean, I fucked my rookies up.

Because when I was the superstar and I was hurt I was in party mode So why wouldn't y'all tell y'all young fellas not to go to the club Everybody But you was going to the club Cause I can do it He can do that too So a nigga can go do that And then say

Don't do it But you a fucking all star What the fuck Are you not't do what I'm doing, young fella. But you a fucking all-star. I can show up and do my fucking job. What the fuck? Are you not listening to what I'm saying? I didn't go open the game. You started at some point during your career to do it. I didn't go open the game.

But you're not listening to what I'm saying. No matter what I did as a rookie, I was playing. I was the number one pick. I didn't know how to fucking follow nobody. I didn't follow nobody, nigga. Rookie, no club, no holes. Second year, no club, no holes. I signed $65 million. Third year, no club, no holes. Second year, no club, no holes. I signed $65 million.

Third year, no club, no holes. Right? I didn't start partying until I got hurt. Right? That's what Nick Young getting dragged in. So I'm like, hey, hey, hey, Shorty. That's my rookie. Handle him.

You too. Handle him. Right? So he think that's the life that I built. The three-time host. No, that's the NBA culture. That ain't the life you built. That's the life the NBA built. That's the the three time. No, that's that NBA culture. It ain't the life you built. That's the life the NBA

Lifestyle I think what I was showing him and I think I think they've done a great job in the NBA To erase that that type of coach, but it was That lifestyle exist at the, but now it's very... Did it exist? How is it different now, bud? I got Shea Gildress Alexander. He ain't never smoked or drank. It was me and Lil Will on the team.

He ain't never smoked or drank with us. Feel me? He ain't never... We want the type of motherfuckers to even invite him out. Yeah, we gonna kick it when we land. We gonna make sure you straight. After that, hide your ass in the room. You feel me? I got Anthony Edwards.

I was shocked. Boy, they say, man, Pat, boy, don't do nothing. I even better. On my tab, you ain't gonna still do nothing. And if I see you, that put that shit down.

Because whatever you do, I'm a smart nigga. I like to think I have a little bit of intelligence. Because whatever you start doing, they ain't gonna put it on you. That gun mine. Yeah.

Mm-hmm. He started doing that because Pat was on the team. I don't need that on my... It goes back to what I'm saying again. I don't need these folks in my business. So I ain't going to show these folks a part of the side that I can't even see with them. How the fuck I'm going to smoke and drink if I'm a teammate? I ain't never seen an owner smoke and drink with me.

So are we saying that there ain't no influence? Feel me? And some people don't like to think deep. I like to go in. I like money. I like the going like I like You embrace that role though at taking that OG wrong taking these dudes under your wing trying to show no right you said we first Came in the league. I'd have had good vets. Yeah, I first came I came into a real young team I think the oldest person on our team was a mirror chic. It was me James me beer Jlan Chandler parts, you know I? I come in, the core of the team,

Francis Garcia. You feel me? First real vet I had. But you feel me? You only vet for two, three months. You out, I don't see you no more. You ain't no really vet. You just was around for two, three months. You know what I'm saying? But I think mine came with trial and error. Mine came from like, okay, Pat.

Instead of like... Because I see rookie, I see new guy, I'm at his fucking neck. I'm going to kill him in practice. I'm picking his ass up 94. You ain't getting my position. I understand this game of revolving door. Next 12 years, there's going to be another motherfucker calling himself Mr. 93 Feet. You understand what I'm saying?

That's just how the game go. Like, I like to think that far out, though. I ain't the same dude who like to think, oh, man, what's going to happen tomorrow? Fuck tomorrow. What's going to happen in 10 years? So I know they got this young boy and this bitch. I know he all athletic and shit. I got to stay on top

of my shit so I can make sure my position's straight. And instead of using that to break down rookies in the past, I use that shit to build them up now. All right, cool. Fuck that. You're doing it wrong. Let's wrap it out. Feel me? Maybe at the time when I was 25, 26, I'd have had the words of

being a leader. Maybe my actions show more. But now I can match my words with my actions now. All right, cool. You're doing that shit wrong. Or let me show you now. Instead of 10, you're just doing that shit wrong. All right, let me tell you how you're supposed to move your hips, how you're supposed to hot stove a motherfucker when you go off to pick and roll. Let me show you, give you advice.

Man, you feel me? That girl, like, calm down, bro. Make basketball your priority. You feel me? Like, this shit carries on other shit too. I think that's what the NBA... If it wasn't for that culture back in the day, this new culture wouldn't exist.

So everything happens for a reason. You got to go down and elevate. You know what I'm saying? They got positive vets around now. You got LeBron as a vet, Klay as a vet. But you got those guys to look up to now. AG did say this to me, right?

I used to hang with Ricky Davis. Ricky was what y'all would consider the other side of that. Parties, all that, right? He turned up a little bit. Ticket used to say, listen, bro, nobody's going to save you. Niggas want your spot, right? Niggas want your spot. So if you give it up because you over here doing what they doing, you giving it up, right? Niggas want your spot. So if you give it up because you over here doing what they doing,

you giving it up, right? So you need to protect your investment shot. Like Ticket took me under and was like, yo, they not going to save you. He's not going to give you the fucking tools

and the gems to take his position. Y'all play the same position. So I had to stop, recalibrate, because I was young and I was making decisions under the influence. But he shouldn't have had you under the influence.

He didn't have me under the influence. If he's smoking with you. Like I said, I... If he's smoking with you. Listen, I was already smoking. Then he should have been talking to you not to smoke. Listen, because it's my decision. Like y'all said in the beginning,

I made the decision. He didn't influence me to smoke. I was making the decision to smoke with him But when it was time for me to change that decision, he told me hey, they not gonna tell you you doing too much They not gonna tell you to slow down. They not gonna tell you to stop bro You need to understand these people on your position. They want your position Don't let him take it and that made me change up everything that I was thinking about was like, you know what? I see it now

All right, you right ticket. I appreciate that Yeah, but this You hide because I do I Do I know what I'm you high because I'm giving bad advice cuz you high because I was there why right? So when someone says if you can take back something in your career The one thing I would take back fuck the gun should I'll accept that if you can take back something in your career The one thing I would take back fuck the gun shit. I'll accept that If I can take back give me my give me those young give me JaVale McGee give me Nick Young give me Andre Blach Well, not Andre Blach because he was there when I was working. Give me Nick Young give me because

what What they idolized as a hooper, as a hooper, I didn't show them that. I didn't show them the 500 shots a day, the coming back three, four times a day, the sitting at home as a hermit. I didn't teach them that. I showed them, I'm hurt, I'm not playing,

I don't give a fuck about none of this, let's party. Come with me, yuck. Come with me, rook. Take me to the strip club. Hit that girl, hit that girl. Bring them back to the hotel. That's what they thought the NBA was. So the time of my life partying, they think that's the NBA.

So when you see him now not being in a relationship because that's what I influenced him at. Instead of saying, no, no, no, no, we don't do that. That was the NBA, though. No, it don't do that. That wasn't in the A though. No, it wasn't in the A. That's what he said. He didn't show him the other part of it. I know. But they already knew this other part existed.

They knew the party in part existed. They didn't know that your party, you wanted to show them. I'm the superstar that he's trying to be like, but I'm not teaching him how to get to this level. It's like Mayweather and Bronner. Bronner wanted to see money made. Yes. Not realizing there was Floyd Mayweather.

Floyd Mayweather was the 30 and 40 and 0. He's meeting a dude that's already a machine. So his party and now is at 40 and 0. You need to look at the dude who was zero and zero you need to look at kg when he was a rookie a saw a Second year player 30 you're looking at a ticket down. The ticket is a whole different fucking thing still going left You're still going left guarantee you I did it didn't is what not the one I was talking about that influenced me It was Ricky. I I was talking about that influenced me. It was Ricky.

I wasn't talking about Ticket. You say you was talking about Ticket. Ticket was the guy that I said that I wanted to bond with when I got to Minnesota as a rookie. It wasn't the influence of smoking that got the bond, my nigga. I'm saying, but if y'all. So, safe instance. All right. Safe instance, right?

If I care about you, I'm not letting you do what I do. Do smoke. It ain't the smoking bond, right? If he was smoking and you was around and he was like, yo, I don't want you to be around. We sitting there bonding on video games. But I'm saying, but you still around to smoke. I'm telling you, if he on some shit like, no, I don't even want you around me while I'm smoking. You think that bond's still what it is?

Yes. Okay. Then we wronged him. We was on some real shit. It was just on some real shit. But it was the fact that we. But if he was on another team. If he was on another real shit. It was just on some real shit. But it was the fact that we... But if he was on another team, if he was on another team, right?

If he was on another team and you had the same thing, you looked up to him, and he, man, y'all, you know, you smoke, he smoke. Nah, young fella, I ain't fucking around with young fellas. I don't smoke with young fellas.

Do your thing, I hit you when I'm done. But he played for, I don't know, Boston, Celtics. You still think it's a bond? Just what you said. I'll hit you when I see you. That see you that bond I link up in the city What's good ticket that's gonna catch dinner But that's one two times now instead of don't to 20 because I'm not on his team because we don't see each other

So the bond wouldn't be which would it be it would because we still homies just like you a homie with somebody to play on Boston when you in town boom summertime nigga, what's up you out here? No, I'm not Homies you niggas is cool. Yeah, homie. You niggas a co-worker you co-worker Workers I had homie so you thought it just hit niggas up and just be like so what you mean? So I think So you think work? Fuck you talking about what you own who play long? Who plays oh I didn't have homies in the league because this cold so I didn't have homies in the league. They wasn't just my co-workers. Trust me Be serious what the five of us connect off the home most of our friends today what are the niggas we was hooping with I Got one nigga that I've childhood friends with he right there Most of all, I don't know nothing about no coworkers. I don't know nothing about no coworkers. I don't know nothing about no coworkers. I know niggas that fuck with me.

How many years you play, Gil? Well, you say fuck niggas and real niggas. How many years you play, Pat? How many years you got in, Pat? I'm going to forget this, OG. Hold on one, two seconds. 12 years, OG. 16 years total counting overseas. You say you fuck with real niggas. That shit, where I'm from, that don't make you real.

You hanging out with me smoking dope will make you real. And never said that. Who said that? Because my homies took me to the lab. So you said y'all fuck with fake niggas. No, we're talking about when you touch down in another city, you don't hit the niggas that you would consider your homies. You're like, nah, I'm just in and I'm out.

Because that's not me. We hooping. But this is my nigga. No, that ain't. This ain't no nigga. So you think. That ain't, bro. So you think. What do you mean, so I think? I wish I was your vet. That don't even make sense. Yeah, we hope it. This is my nigga So you think I wish I was over that don't even make sense

The nigga I was in college with So now he we just what the fuck are y'all talking about if I hit it if I respect the nigga and you hit me And say what we all we can dinner. We're Busting your ass tomorrow. I'm going to bust your ass tomorrow. Or room service. You don't got to come out. Or room service. That ain't the coach.

That ain't the coach. I'm going to bust your ass tomorrow. That ain't the coach. I'll see you in the summer. I'll see you in the summer. If you my nigga and you in Milwaukee and I'm in Minnesota

and you come to Minnesota let's get dinner my nigga. You not fucking getting dinner with me bro? Larry Hughes is my bet. Answer the question my Milwaukee. I'm in Minnesota. You come to Minnesota. Let's get dinner my nigga. You're not fucking getting dinner with bro I might I might if you my nigga I'm yeah for sure. Yeah, you my nigga you're not getting dinner with me, bro I'm what I'm saying. Wait, wait, wait. Because this morning, I consider you my homie. Every time I come in, I get a. Did y'all hear what y'all saying?

I don't. I'm not your nigga. These niggas listening to what they saying right now. Wait, hold on. Wait, hold on. So every time I come in the room, I have to have dinner? No. I mean, what if I'm not even moved?

What about that? Why be on a. Ain't nobody fucking friends. No. You can't be friends with nobody. No. No, no, no. I'm not. Anytime, nigga. Any fucking friends. You can't be friends with nobody. Anytime, nigga. Any fucking time.

Ain't no home game. My nigga, summertime, let's work out. Nah, I'm good, nigga. You know who I played out with? I played 15 years. What? When DeMar Johnson was with Atlanta Hall. Nigga.

I was a senior. He was a freshman. We got drafted together Them first couple years when he was with Atlanta When I went to Atlanta Cuz we got drafted together and we was I in LA working out together pre-draft the whole thing my first two years other than that Going to roll go out with who opposing who? Now won't you scalp tomorrow Lou will my white me every time I'm in the land

Anyway, we're not killing you you can't stop me from killing you every time Your scalp any fucking way you understand about whether we go out to dinner or not Nigga, what are y'all talking about? Kill you anyway, you know it you know how I get that Fuck y'all niggas talking about how many years is you playing the NBA? Oh, remember. I'm drunk. I don't fucking remember. I don't fucking remember. I don't fucking remember. What's the point? What's the point? What's the point?

I'm Larry Hughes's friend. He's saying maybe if you would have had... Maybe, man. Maybe, man. It's done. It's over with. He's saying maybe if you had different guidance, maybe you'd focus these niggas. And a different mindset. Maybe you're in the league.

What the fuck is these niggas talking about, man? This is for future, though. I'm Larry Hughes' rookie, right? When he wanted to go on date night, I'm watching his kids. So I'm babysitting. I'm a fucking babysitter. When he left, he gave me all his clothes. So I'm his ace.

When I was a free agent. You're his what? I'm his ace. What's that mean? I'm his dude. I'm his man. His clothes. So I'm his ace. When I was a free agent. You're his what? I'm his ace. I'm his dude. I'm his man. I'm homie. When I was a free agent, he calls me, yo, come here. Right? You owe me. Come here. Get that money back. Right? That's

my guy. He makes his money in Cleveland. Cleveland playoffs. Yo, hey, what you doing tonight? Nigga told me What I'm doing is watching film so I can stop you. I ain't trying to have you score over 20. Well, that's what we all click Did he stop you that's hard that's hard 32 that series

We all click I like that that series. I like that. That's what we all click. I like that. But that's what I'm saying. My first all-star, my first all-star was actually his. He got hurt. It was supposed to be his. I said, yo, yo, big OG, can you come and support? Because this is yours. I'm playing for you.

So him and his family came to Denver. But that's what I'm saying. But that's the, his defense made my offense. So we respected each other to know I don't want to hang out with you tonight. We not eat, we not going to dinner. When it's over, we can hang out. During this season, during when I come in the city, it's about business. That's what we forget, that's what was the bad part about it.

We're going to cities with our friends thinking it's time. Right? We're hanging out. Fuck all that. No, that's not it, homie. That's not what we're going. That's not the reason you got to home, man. NBA niggas party more during the season for some odd reason.

Not in the summer. Hell yeah, for sure. During the season, we want to fuck around and do what we need to do. It's like you're extra thirsty to go out. I want to go to the club and do this and that. That's our job. Fuck that. That's why I had to put rules in.

I'm going out one or two times when I started doing what I'm doing, one or two times during the season, I'll party in the summer. Whoever has the best party out of you motherfuckers, I'll go in the summer. Which one of you motherfuckers spend the most money on the party, I'll show up to. Other than that, nah. I'll see you in the summer. I got a perfect, I got those guys I named on that Miami Heat team. I mean, I'm

15%. UD, I'm 15%. I'm really hoping they really slide this per diem over every trip. You feel me? Oh, look, look, look. I got four, five per diem. Right? At the same time, though, I'm with Brian going out. Feel me? But I'm I'm with Brian going out Feel me, but I'm also with Brian watching football games Monday nights. I'm with Brian while they shooting a night commercial Pat What you would were you from there like this? I hell yeah, you feel me like so

It's a way you can it's a way you can show the NBA life without Tearing a kid down or putting this heavy ass umbrella of influence in front of him. Like, yeah, you can get this if you do this. Right? So, yeah, I went out with Bron. Hell yeah. You feel me?

Still go out. My dog, big bro, he gave me the whole blueprint. Probably the reason why I'm in the NBA so fucking long. Is y'all homies? Huh? Y'all homies? What do you mean? What's homies, though?

Oh, that's not a fucking hard question. Yeah, that's my hom, though? Oh. I don't... That is not a fucking hard question. Yeah, that's my homie. All right. That's all I ask is, that's your homie? But do I wish him a Merry Christmas? I just asked. Am I wishing him a happy birthday? Do you have to wish him a Merry Christmas to be a homie?

Is that what homies do? That's my show niggas. I mean, I could call my homie and go out with him, right? Yeah, but I'm not going out with him. You said you went out with Ron. That's my homie. Y'all him right but I'm not you said you went out Very Christmas or happy like yeah who said that who's doing that because I got That's an extreme. Don't go to the extreme. That's not what I said. No, you said, because if you come to Milwaukee

or if I come to Minnesota and I don't hit you, then to go out to dinner... No, I didn't say that, my nigga. I didn't say if you came here and I didn't hit you. I said if I come there and I hit you.

Uh-huh. Let's go to dinner, my nigga. You say homies don't... If you my homie, we going to fucking dinner, my nigga. I just touched down. Yeah, but what if I say no? You say no. You say no. You got something to do, my nigga. Does that not make you my homie, we going to fucking dinner, my nigga. I just touched down. Yeah, but what if I say no? You say no, you say no.

You got something to do, my nigga. Does that not make you my homie? Oh, no. Even if you said, I'm watching film to bust your ass, my nigga, I'm cool. I'm like, bet. Bet, I'll see you at the game, my nigga. So, Pat, you talked about your relationship with LeBron and giving you the blueprint. What is that blueprint exactly?

Of know the game you're playing, right? Be in control of what you're doing, right? I watched this man go home, car in front of him, car behind him. Oh, this is not what I was drinking. I didn't know what the fuck was going on. While you drive, while I watch this normal person drive, he drive by himself, you drive, you got car in front, car behind. While when you work out, you do two extra sprints.

While when everybody leave at, I don't 1230 you leave at one you feel me? So like he gave me more of that and showed me more of that So I just took that and I added with with the shit I got I mean you feel I average over Ten points in the NBA. I've been this shit for 12 years, bro Hmm like like let's like like you feel me the LeBron influence And that constant like like like taking care of your body, which is all the things he did. I'm 16 years. He 21 No, apparently whatever fucking told me that shit's been working and still is I'm still in this bitch I'm still kicking. You know I'm saying I'm saying so he gave you some influence But the right influence gave you influence right influence, but the right influence. I'm just using the word influence

That's the that's the whole I never said good influence. Right influence. But the right influence. I'm just using the word influence. That's the whole, I never said good influence or bad influence. I said nigga influence. You gonna be influenced badly doing the negative shit or you gonna be influenced goodly? Goodly? Goddamn! Where this, it's that Carolina fucking degree, boy that education. So we talking, so we gonna get on the speed shit?

Nigga, is that a word? It's a word now. No, it's fucking ain't What we doing Fair game then. No, no, no. Seriously. Fair game. Fair game. We are so peace and love. Fair fucking game then. No, no, no. This is a good one to go. Thank you.

I'm on the correction path now. Don't fuck up your fucking words. I'm on your fucking ass. What's up? Finish your car. I want to give Pat something because I always use Pat. I always use Pat as a reference when I'm talking about if you want to make it to the next level, you have to understand who you are, what they need, and apply it, right? Absolutely.

So when people talk about 12 years and they talk about defense, how many defenses? Three. Three-time all defense. Three. No one knows he led Chicago, Illinois in scoring. Scoring. Right? So when all these kids out here thinking they're scorers, right?

I'm pretty sure. Averaging 30. 37. 37.3. Right? He was like, fuck that. I don't need to pass the ball to nobody. But understood.

And this is where intelligence and understanding the game and the IQ comes from. Understanding that there's probably someone that is already in that position. And if I want to make this team, I have to change my game to fill in something that they don't have. So now you're talking about a guy who was a offensive juggernaut turned defensive player. So when you're talking about getting to the next level, you have to understand what do they need for me to fill in that void. Right? So whenever I talk to kids, like, yeah, y'all all scores now. That sounds cool.

But when you go to next levels, you need to really understand, like, who's who, what's what, and how to imply your talent. And to piggyback on that, when you first came in, did you automatically go overseas or did you have a shot at training camps and certain things? I had a, so I got suspended for a year in college. Of course. So I was forced with a decision. He said of course. I was forced with a decision to make.

Ironically I had a meeting with Nick Nurse. He was with Iowa Energy at the time. But I just had, you know, I just had another kid. Man, I got two kids. I'm a sophomore in high school. I ain't trying to be here. I got to get this paper. So my decision was always, my decision was always like money.

Yeah. Sophomore in college, you said. Let me ask you this then. In high school or college? College. I'm about to say. Let me ask you this. When you was in college, that second year, right,

and you don't get that situation where you had to, you got suspended or whatever, don't you think that you had the opportunity down there to raise your level of play, average more points, Naismith candidate, like you wasn't no slouch in college? Yeah, I was all that coming in. Steph Curry, Kevin Durant, we was all freshman team. So if you did four years or three years, you would have been a situational pick anyway, right? So I'm not going to diminish you having to go over there and turn into no defensive player

knowing that you never lost the mentality of being a dominant scorer. But no, I was a scorer over there, too. That's the thing. I was a scorer over there, too. MVP. Right. So when I came to league, I got Kevin McHale. I'm like, man, I got

a hard coach, but at the same time, I got old school coach too. Feel me? I don't give a fuck what you say. Hoopers love them, my old Indiana Hoos, your ass. I don't give a fuck what you say, because you know exactly what this coach want from you. Right? What you want me to do?

Man, I want you to harass everybody. All right, cool. Now, if I'm a... Again, I like to think I got a little sense. I like to think my mom did a solid job with me. She didn't really fuck me up too much. So I like to think that, all right, you feel me? I like to think that, okay, cool. All right, if he give me the ace of spades, and I know what my ace of spades is, is defense. Okay, cool. I'm going to just use this king of spades to get in the dough with my offense. So instead of fucking the 30, I'm going to just shoot 40 from the 3

for like 8 years. Right? Now I'm okay, cool. I can sprinkle a little of this. I'm picking a roll a little bit. You feel me? I can sprinkle a little of this. Next thing you know, you feel me, my mental space and my game is actually can fit to a complete. I'd rather be Pat Baird

than a motherfucker just scoring 30 points a game because I impact the game just like this motherfucker just scoring 30 points a game, because I impact the game just like this motherfucker who scored 30. Feel me? It might not add up in points, but it's going to add up. Do you think you would still be in the league if you tried to be a scorer that you were in high school and college? Yeah, this shit, I was destined for this shit. Either way. That's cool. That's just the road I had to take. You feel me? but like this

I'll give all this no matter what my mask that was real different than a lot of that But then you know that's that but that is something that the youth in the next levels need to really understand that you really have To take out the ego. Yeah, and understand sometimes you just got to do what you got to do to get on that court Like people don't realize I'm a score who played no defense, right? not realizing my first two years, I got on the court to play defense. In college, defensive player. First year, defensive player.

Once they gave me $65 million, I need to score, right? No defense? Perfect. But I was a defensive player. I had to stop. I had to guard the best players until my role changed Like you really have to be in tuned with just Understanding the game of basketball and some people don't understand it like I talk to people is all it's the craziest thing in the world

like I've been in league 12 years up the 12-year starter. Mm- starter respect on my shit a 12-year starter I don't go fuck I might not I might have started the season off the bench every fucking year I played in this league I've been a starter I can't say that about like me Steph Curry drew holiday the Martha Rose and it's only five six of us left you feel me so like my mindset has been different okay cool I understand how this game go cuz when we get to the playoffs cuz that's the ultimate goal to get to the playoffs, I'm going to play in the playoffs because I can guard one through five.

A lot of people don't think like that. So yeah, numbers might not be crazy in the season. Oh, I might average eight or seven in the season. I might play 25, 26 minutes. This person averaging 30. Yeah, that's cool, but when we get to these off-damp, man, where Pat Bale come from? No, I've been here. This is my type of game now. now go time, you know, I'm saying I think everyone's different, you know So yeah, I think everything is different same cloth dog

Injuries to say no I mean injuries play a lot of part in my bike so back to the so back to the back to what me and you was Talking about like somebody somebody here that I'm like my dog or somebody right? He didn't took me out plenty of times, right? And these are stories that me and him, we don't even need to talk about, right? I'm in the league playing against his son. This man, we done went out and had great times plenty of times. But is this my dog?

Hell yeah. In suit to respect, I come in this for you, OG. Just off the strength of him taking care of me, I don't know, 13 years ago when I was in L.A. trying to get in the Greystone. I couldn't afford to say, hey, hey, can I split it with you, please don't know, 13 years ago when I was in L.A. trying to get into Greystone. I couldn't afford a table. Hey, hey, can I split it with you, please? You know what I'm saying? But do we Richie's Happy Father's Day? Fuck no.

But every time we see each other, it's always love. It's a bond that nobody else can. You know what I'm talking about. The table split is. No, that's. Dead ass. But as I said, most of our friends, technically, technically technically when we think about it our NBA player Oh, I know if I play with a rich if I'm in a bad

I need down like y'all agreeing with my fucking homies and that you go out with fucking homies when y'all he a was Are you going out? I'm not I never said during Caesar in Caesar. I'll see it don't matter if I hit you you my homie Oh, we going out we're going to do whatever That's the point y'all now agreeing with the whole shit now. No we thought you said during the season like me and Jay rich like like drafted together worked out like Draft together like I'm I'm going for a spot right? That's my home. I'm going for a spot. We bought our escalator. I'm going for your spot All right, and he's like you go to for the one. I will go for the one

His wife now we met her at a club in Miami, right? Walked in the club. Hey, how you doing? Have fun that's his wife. She's a basketball head, right? When she says that you need to learn as a guard position, go to Gilbert. Right? Hey, can you train my kids? But that's our relationship. Ain't no father. But we haven't hung out since motherfucking our second year in the NBA. We're going to pick up where we left off.

Second year in the NBA. But if something happens in LA, like, yo, my kids, this and that, he's going to call me. I'm going to call him. Right? So, yes, our best friends, our homies are actually NBA players because we identify with each other Let me see if I make that Impacting the game let's talk a little bit about the mental side so you edged out Draymond rebound in the last athletic player I got opposite

You edged out Draymond in the last athletic player poll as the league's best trash talker Do you take pride in that ability to get other new skin? It's not even us. I promise you I'm not going into a game like I'm about to trash talk somebody That's just naturally who I am feel me you put me on the court right now at a 24 hours. I'm pop my shit I'm competing. I'm you feel I'm real like park ball. You feel me? You know that's just naturally who I am and if I ain't gonna say nothing to you Then I'm gonna take it out on the rep You know I'm saying like so like it ain't it ain't nothing personal

Ain't none that I'm okay. Let me say this shit We're not when I go in but like you feel me like I'm just when I'm out there I'm just I'm I'm in beast mode I mean I'm somewhere just a mental side being able to get into a dude's head and see how that Affects his game inversely in a negative way. Why do you maybe I got people? It's funny because I'd be having motherfuckers walk up to me, walk right past me, you know, before the game when you going to shoot or whatever, you feel them warming up.

I have motherfuckers walk right past me, but then in the game, they be wanting to fight me. It be the craziest thing in the world. So I really can't really take it that serious, you know what I'm saying? Okay. Because it's not. Yeah, I was one of those. What's that?

What? Talk my shit in the game, see you in real blood. Yeah, I was like, well I was one of those What's that what? Talk my shit in the game see you in real blood. Yeah, I'm good You might feel he might eat person that Look like he really hits in in real life cuz I it'll be a game you feel me if it's game we play we play Portland You know me and Dan we already got out there And you gotta understand like this this competition with me and Dame has been already got out there. You feel me? And you got to understand, like, this competition with me and Dame, it's been going since I was a rookie. You feel me?

Like, this motherfucker, they say can shoot from the half court. I got to see it. I need it. I got to see it. What the fuck are you all style? I'm not. We both in the Western Conference. You just took us out the playoffs.

I need to see you every single time, either until I retire or you retire. This is how I go. I got six fouls. So, like, so I, you know, we played Portland. We played Portland. Lakers, you know,

Dane, write that hoodie on, chopping it up. You know, you see everything. I don't give a fuck what a hoop will say. You see everything.

You see who out there and who ain't out there. You know, walk right past me, not one word, get in the game, I'm going to beat your ass. Like, damn,

that's interesting because you just saw me. But say less because now I'm, okay, cool. That type going to beat your ass. Like, damn, that's interesting because you just saw me. But say less. Because now I'm, okay, cool. That type of nigga, he is. Say less. You know what I'm saying? Now I'm going to use that against me.

Bat, get your ass out of here. Come on, man. You ain't no, you know what I'm saying? Like, now I'm going to use that against you because I'm really, like, you feel me? Like, I'm going to just use that against you. Because whatever anybody want to be on, I really be on that. Feel me? I'm not out here trying to be tougher than I am. I'm not trying to be out here, but I'm willing to go,

for my respect, I'm willing to go way farther than any other man could possibly go for my shit. What? Straight like that. I'm not in here trying to blend in. I'm not in here trying to fit in. I'm in here trying to be me, bro. And if you don't like it, she don't like it, buddy behind me don't like it, that's how it is. Either roll with it or get the fuck up out my way. I've been like that since I was a shorty. I told you, my mama did a good job. Because if I didn't have that mindset, nigga would have ate me.

So my bringing up is different. You feel me? You feel me? So that's just how I go. And I don't really play to no homos because I hear them over there talking about, whoa. You feel me? I don't really play to no homos. That wasn't on that show. I hear him over there. Tell me whoa you feel my

So my thing is so so people so so it's the phrase that's going around would you rather be feared or loved right? Here I was here. Absolutely. I'm saying I won't be like To your to your point right? All right, people used to ask me about Like the future like my situation. I've been in on the floor and all that, right? I'm gonna get dead on your ass in the moment because you're gonna respect every time you fucking see me every time Whatever I got to do to get that if you still I should tell the ref I'll be we'd be on the free throw line Motherfucker be doing all that dot dot dot shoot me a shot shoot that the Listen man. I tell the ref hey, man, you better calm him down

before I do Straight put some respect on it. How many years you've taken the lead 15, bro. It's a monster So life is a man and I didn't deviate from day one like you Like to your point everything that you saying I've been the same person so I was bro. I started who but we but the problem is We had the fight Second round wasn't like you know, I mean we so we have a different mindset right then someone who got drafted But you know what I mean? I mean besides I got Don't do that got drafted. You know what I mean? No. I mean, besides you. I got... Yeah, you was already crazy.

Don't do that. But like, with a defensive player, right? With you. It don't matter if you're second or not. It don't matter. But me. I'm not a dark one.

I had this in high school. I had a lot of calls. What you mean? I mean, congratulations. Congratulations to everything that you niggas do. But we're lax.

We're fucking lax. We're fucking lax. We're fucking lax. Niggas same mentality. We're fucking lax. We're fucking lax. Number one in the country. Mr. B! I'm about the shit. I'm about the same shit.

I came out of high school, and I had to go a different route too, OK? So you got to think. So me and BJ. So BJ, right? I see BJ go his route, right? We the same draft class too. So I'm going to just give y'all, like, he a killer, too.

Hey, give me another shot, man. Motherfucker don't score no 50, can't even kill it. I'm listening. I done seen BJ go other route. I done seen BJ go overseas and all that, right? So, like, say what you want. He got a name for his going overseas, right? He playing in Rome.

He playing all these motherfuckers. I'm in Ukraine. I'm in second division Ukraine. I take a risk though. We take a risk. I take a risk out of high school because I don't know what's going to happen. But I wanted what he had. Fuck I ain't playing in Rome for. Fuck the... He's the number six pick. He get to work out by himself.

Fuck I ain't working out by myself. Why the fuck I got to work out with 18 motherfuckers? Alright. Guess what? Brandon Jennings, he on my hit list. It ain't because I know him because he a bad guy or he can't hoop or he ain't the killer himself. That's just how it is when you just underdog. And you've been underdog so long, that's just how it is.

Coming up is Sharron Collins and Jonathan Shire. You feel me? Obviously, everybody had to fight for something. It's just underdog shit, underdog shit. I feel like I was an underdog, though. I feel like I was an underdog. It's a whole other side. Because Ricky Rubio, Ricky Rubio ain't having to work out at all no no that's what made me go 10

no no no no no no no no no what y'all are saying that's the truth no no what y'all saying is y'all are underdog from pick six to one right i went 10th i went 10th because i called out ricky rubio 14 to one, right? There's another prospect when I'm, you are an underdog like, y'all, these motherfuckers didn't pick me, boom, boom, boom. There's another whole human being that's looking like, fuck all y'all. No, for sure. There's always somebody.

Of course. So there's a different mindset, right? There's a different mindset in everything. But at the end of the day, Gil. You're making a million, I'm sleeping in the gym When you the champion you know niggas is coming at you bro When you at the top you know This nigga is at my throat I gotta sharpen my fucking steel

I can't let him He's more hungry than He got everything to fucking lose I gotta keep my shit sharp Because I know the type of nigga he is he's coming to kill me but but i gotta be ready it's a different level you're not gonna be ready what do you mean i'm not gonna be ready we was always ready it says it on my shoulders always ready never scared there's a price on my head there's a price on my head

but there's a fucking risk to collect it. You ain't ready. You taking a big risk coming to get this bounty. You ain't ready. You taking a big risk coming to get this bounty. This is something that nobody knows. You better be fucking prepared. I don't brag. I don't brag as much that I should.

I'm the 31th pick in my draft. In my draft, I'm the first one to win a rookie All-Star MVP, which is a sophomore MVP. I was the first one to win an NBA award, which is most improved. I was the first one to make the All-Star game. I was the first one to the Olympics. I was the first one all NBA teams. Smoke.

I was the first one on a video game. Actually, only one on the NBA team. Smoke. I was the first one on a video game. Actually, only one on a video game. I'm the only person from my draft with a signature shoe. Hey, man, hit the button, man. No, no, no. Fuck that shit. No, but I don't need to hit the button. I said hit the goddamn button.

I was the first one to the big. The reason was, right? Victory. He said victory. I had to say victory. Smoke. Victory. 31 people. No, I'm talking about. I was the first one to the big the reason was right victory I should be the 10th or 12th pick for 10 to 12 reasonable 15 maybe two right but this 30 people in front of me. I have 30 people's success to look at. Which means I don't have no time for nothing.

I look at a score. I don't give a fuck what pick it was. There's 30 people that I get to look at. Oh, you scored 30 tonight. Fuck you. I'm in the gym. You scored 20. Fuck you.

I'm in the gym. Which means I have no time to rest. I have 30 people. When you're six, you only got five people to worry about. I got 30 people to say, I'm fucking these niggas up. I was 10th. I wasn't six. But, yeah.

But what I'm saying is, your list is a little shorter. When you're in the second round, you're looking at everybody that's in front of you. Angry. No, for sure. My girl cheating on me. I can't go home. I mean, that's what every... I mean, I feel like...

She's sleeping with an NBA player. I feel like that's what everything in life... But I feel like that's what everything in life does. Right? That's what everything in life... She was sleeping with one of his teammates. Nobody wants to be number one. Nobody wants to be number one.

It's not diminishing the route that anybody took. It's just that we all got somebody that we looking to chase. We chasing something. We all got some motivation to move on and move forward and sharpen our steel. Sometimes you looking back. Sometimes you looking forward. I had nobody to chase. Like, I had nobody.

I came in, like, you know, I felt like I was... You were talking about Ricky Rubio. Yeah. I was like, you know, why he ain't working out? Like, why is this nigga ain't working out I just played against him like that was my whole thing like so but I don't know I mean it just depends man you know everybody has their journey

everybody has their journey it's just about like what you put into it and like what you get out of it like I was I was blessed to come in rookie year you know under Armadillo have the ball in my hand take Milwaukee Milwaukee to the, you know, playoffs. But I didn't have, you know, I had Kurt Thomas and Jerry Stackhouse, and then right after that, they traded him.

They traded him. So I don't really have that bet. Like, I don't have that bet. So, like you said, you had Brian. You had Kurt. I didn't have Brian. You had Kurt. Kurt Thomas.

No, Kurt Thomas. Kurt Thomas, rookie year. But you know what I'm saying? But he was gone after that. Like, he was gone after that. So it's like, I didn't, like, everybody's situation is different. But, you know, I was able to play 11 years professionally, like you said. So it just depends on, you know.

You think if you'd have had, like, those same vets but just there, I don't know, a little long, you think things would be different? Yeah. Yeah, like, I would have been in Milwaukee longer. Like, right after my rookie year, we won 46 games. We 6 in the East. We come back. We trade everybody away. So now I'm dealing with guys. And these are not... I don't want to say these are bad guys, but

Keon Doolin, Errol Boykin, Drew Gooden, Corey McGinney. You know what I'm saying? And you got Michael Redd, Jerry Stackhouse, Luke Rittenhour, all these guys gone. And Jerry Stackhouse and Curt Thomas. Just Curt and Stack alone. Yeah, just alone. They had the locker room. That's why we won 46 games. And Jerry Stack and, you know, Curt Thomas. Just Curt and Stack alone. Yeah, just alone.

You know what I'm saying? They had the locker room. That's why we won 46 games. And then after that, it's like, now Milwaukee start, they start panicking. And then it's like,

so now I'm in the mix where it's like, okay, well, you know, we bring Steven Jackson in. We bring Monte Ellis in. But these are my last two years. We're not winning.

So it's like, there wasn't no consistency. It was like, okay, boom, we gave you the ball the rookie year. All right, we're expecting you to do that. But it's like, I still need no consistency. It was like, okay, boom, we gave you the ball the rookie year. All right, we're expecting you to do that. But it's like, I still need more help.

Like, I need somebody to, you know, give me a father figure type love. Your Donny Tassel type. Yeah, yeah. A coach type. That's what I said. Like, my only regret was I didn't really be, I didn't give them the tools that made me what I was. Right, yeah. It didn't. them the tools that made me what I was. Right, yeah. It didn't.

But was it because... I got all the money, I got all the fame, and I wanted to go for the first time, have fun. But was it because you was hurt? I was hurt, so I wasn't practicing. But if you weren't hurt... I'm not saying because when I throw my killings, that's when I started.

If I was hurt, then no. It was three times a day. I remember when my first... And Nick always tells the story't know it was that's three times a day like I remember when my first and I like Nick always does The story but it was true. We're down 20 Right and he coach put the rookies in the rook the niggas and do nothing, right? They didn't do nothing wrong with the vets. We all we fucking up right and I hit the coach and I said If these young motherfuckers ain't ready don't put him in the game Right. They didn't play 13 games after that That was my fuck up if these young motherfuckers ain't ready, don't put them in the game. Right?

They didn't play 13 games after that. That was my fuck up. I'm thinking that we can still make a comeback even though we was getting our ass. That's competition. Yeah, it was. I didn't want to do that to the rookies, but I needed them to understand how serious it was and what this next level was,

but it got them benched for 13 games and we still playing and it's like i'd rather have the rookies than these motherfucking losers because they already mentally checked out and we only like 15 games into the season but i the rookies up over that right so i think better we have to really be really important the we say it is because yeah you have a guy who's been looking at us in college in high school, and he's trying to really Get our approval. You know like he's trying to get our approval like think about everybody who AI was coming for AI We're trying to get your what approval so as a veteran We need to understand that yo these little motherfuckers really trying to look up to it. We have to understand like hold on

Now we don't we don't we ain't doing this Miami what you doing in Miami I ain't doing nothing No, no, no fella. I'm gonna sit in the room even though I'm going out I'm gonna tell him wait I'm sitting in my room because I don't want him to look at the dude I am now I want him to look at the dude he see on TV, but hold on I'm not I'm not waiting for another man's approval. I'm sorry. I don't give a fuck who you are. But it don't matter. Some people do. As a rookie, I wasn't looking for nobody's approval. But some people do.

Why? Because I- You're a grown ass man. Nigga, you're a pig. Hold on, hold on. You went to a team that had Michael Redd, not Kobe Bryant. So you don't know what you would've did if you went to Kobe Bryant or Tim Duncan. No, I would've been working out with, but what I'm saying is I have to do my job, so my approval is going to be on what I do.

But I'm telling you right now, if Kobe would have said, yo, hey, shorty. He just switched Parker juice. Come to me to the club. I'm going to the club right now. I need you to show up. You would have did that. Because that's Kobe Bryant. But what I'm saying is.

And I still would have been in the gym the next morning, too. But that's the influence of what a good veteran is. That's why I say I can't say I'm saying is... And I still would have been in the gym the next morning, too. But that's the influence of what a good veteran is. That's why I say I can't say I'm a good vet. I was a great... Like, Antoine Jamerson, Larry Hughes, they were good vets to me. Okay. I failed them because I wasn't a good vet to the people who should have been. But because of a situation, because you got hurt.

That's the only reason why, though. But. Right? Yes. No, no, no. That's the only reason why you couldn't even stand on that. Because you said that if you not hurt, you wouldn't have went there. True, because you had time.

I had time. You had time. I can't take that because when I took Larry Hughes' spot. When he was hurt. He was still a good vet. So I can't jump on in and say, oh, because I was hurt he was still a good vet so i can't i can't i can't jump on in and say oh because i was hurt because when larry when i took when larry was hurt and i took his spot and they well they gave me a spot in those last 20 some games he was still a professional i mean so i can't you know what i mean but what i'm saying is i can't just i can't take the easy

way i was at all because I was hurt. No, no, for sure. I went hard for the first time. No, for sure. Because the veteran that taught me that didn't do it. For sure. That's true. Right?

Yeah. Like, if I can say right now, and he'll say it, if he was still on the team, my troubles never happened. None of it. He'd have talked you out of bringing the guns? He would have gave me the look. What the fuck you doing? He would have never did it. I would have of bringing the guns he would have gave me to look fuck you doing I would have never did it. I would have never Argued again another plane down down and you know, we don't talk I wouldn't have three very well You know Larry don't he don't speak

so, you know my veteran like I Didn't have to be a leader cuz he was mother fucker He had me like he look at me like yo, I'll be look like am I shooting too much. She'd be like Like keep doing you cool Yo, hey Spin that motherfucker around I bet like you know, I mean he he understood who I was to the point where he knew So when he left I'm like shit y'all got no control over me now goddamn it Did it off the glass?

So you talk about veteran leadership, let's talk a little bit about Anthony Edwards You got the chance to play with him in Minnesota You said that he has a chance to be the next Michael George or so What do you think a man needs to do to get to that level to be the next Michael George? I just say just continue in him and I mean Michael Jordan with the whole thing not not just only skill, right? Mike was able to cultivate a younger generation with his smile, the way he... You never seen Mike frown or tell a kid no. Even if you see him in media, he was always fun.

He was just a likable person. You see Anthony Edwards, man? You see this man on any of you, you just can't help but to like the kid. He has the smile, he has the baby face, but when you get in between those eyes, he's a monster. Like Mike. He black like Mike? So but I think the numbers, I think his numbers in the playoffs compared to Mike's and a lot of the top greats that's played in the playoffs, I mean 21, 22 years old, he's up there with the best of them.

Does he need to get out of Minnesota? He will get out of Minnesota. Okay. I mean, that's just what happens. They're evolution, Bill. Okay. And that's no disrespect to Minnesota. It's just, you feel me, with that personality,

he can change the world with basketball. Where should he go? Not to put you on the spot, but where should he go? I mean, obviously. Big market? It has to be big market. LA, New York. For him to get the most, and again, I played in Minnesota.

There's no diss on Minnesota. There's no diss on lower market teams, but he is the type of player that you need to see him. Okay. You need to see him. And there's no way Minnesota should have, I don't know, nine, ten TV games right now. So all the work he's putting in right now today, of course He's gonna put it in but it looks different when you get to see it didn't like Go through an app and get it or I can't really get it the way I need to get it It's different when you got 30 games on TV and you get to see that shit every night

Does he have that Jordan has all that practice that everything? Work ethic I'm time of first like like like and like you Everything. Everything. So you say his work ethic is all a brute. Something I've never seen before. I'm talking about first, like, man, like, you got to stay off your legs a little bit. Nah, nah, nah, I'll be all right, OG. Real, rest him a little bit, okay? But just get in the cold tub with me, fuck it.

You don't want to stop practicing, just get in the cold tub with me then, fuck it. All right, cool. That's all I got for you, OG. I'm in this, bitch. That's all right. He was supposed to play football. Yeah, he in that, bitch. That's all I got for you though. I'm in this bitch Play football. Yeah, he in that bitch. He dangerous. He'll kill her. I like you kill it from your time together What's your favorite Anthony ever story cuz got the chance to talk and work with him a little bit He thinks he's the best at everything. He has no problem talking shit. He wants all the smoke So what's your favorite and story? Oh, no, we I don't know we play Madden and not you know Everybody like to think they a good Madden player.

You know, everybody likes to think. And I don't know. We play Madden. Like, he, man, I bet you $100, $200 I'll 21-0 you. Not beat me. Like, 21-0 me. I mean, you don't look bad. He's a new 21.

He ain't go 21. What's wrong with you, man? 21. Next game, 21. I scored one touchdown. He, all right, bet back. 21. 21. He ain't go 21. What's wrong with you? 21. Next game, 21. I scored one touchdown. He, alright, bet back. 21. Like, boy is addicted to competition. And I like that. And you don't see that

from a young guy. Because if it's that, then they're missing something else. Like I say, never smoke, never drink. Loves competition, loves the gym. I mean, not a lot of guys that was doing it at that age, in that series, except Mike and Cole. You talked about Shea, too, in your time with the Clippers working with him.

What have you seen for him, and what do you think his ceiling could be? He didn't know. Like, Shea didn't know. Shea came in, he was wide-eyed, bushy-tailed. He didn't know. You got to think, that year it was me and Avery Bradley. You talking about some of the best on-ball defense

in NBA at that time. He was cooking our ass. Straight up. Straight up. Like, just raw, too. No plays. And, you know, Doc, you got to think. Shea took my spot, like, seventh game in the season.

I mean, I got it back after we traded for Avery Bradley and we made our push in the playoffs. but that year when we went against Golden State, he took my spot. But I'm a different vet. He get there, I'm telling him, hey man, don't stop until you take my spot. That's go iron pushes iron. Same thing I tell T-Man. You know what I'm saying? So you can either be a vet, you feel me? You can be one of them motherfucking vets that got an imprint on these kids' lives. You feel me? So like, that was my thing. Like, yo, you're here to take my spot.

I know what it is. Fuck, I'm going to play the point. You're a six-five point. One plus one is two. Like, don't stop until you get it. And I ain't going to stop, because I want it. You know what I'm saying? And they just made a way for both of us to work at that time.

We damn near almost beat Golden State. We took them to six. We started two rookies, him and Shannon. Yeah. That's wild. That's wild. I mean, you know, you talk about Ant. Gil, I want you to give Anthony Edwards your best pitch

for why he needs to do like Minnesota did. Bro, you trying to get in LA? Yeah. Let's catch him, man. That is tampering. You are not involved in the league you have no you high When you say you say he needs to make a move to a bigger market with somewhere like Atlanta VIPs? Hell no. I don't know. It's not big enough. It's not big enough for him. It's not big enough for him. Come on, you know,

LA, New York, Chicago. He needs a little keep up with the Chicago jersey. LA, New York, Chicago, Miami, Boston. It does well. Obviously, it does well because he's in a small market.

You feel me? It does well, but for him, his personality is huge. His personality is too big. It's just too big. Now, we ain't even talking about his game.

We're just talking about his personality. Like, that needs to be displayed, because, like, it's other kids like that who need to see shit like that, who need to be like, okay, I'm different, but I'm different in Anthony Edwards' way. It's okay to be different. You feel me? And I'm not saying he can't do it in Minnesota. I'm just saying it's a little harder.

For sure, for sure. Let's talk a little bit about your time with the Lakers. You know, you and Westbrook had an interesting relationship prior to becoming teammates on that Lakers squad. It was amazing to see y'all come together and bond, spend holidays together and just the friendship that you guys had. But we talk about Russ all the

time and we all love Russ. I'm a UCLA guy. He's a UCLA guy. I've known Russ since he was coming out of high school. Why does Russ get so much slander? And do you feel like he's unfairly targeted by the media and fans? No. I think that in this world,

you get out what you put in, right? If he didn't have triple-double Russ face, they wouldn't critique him as much. They're a fair statement. Some people say yes, some people say no. We don't know. If he had the demeanor of Ricky Rubio, would people critique him so much?

Probably not. But would he be the same killer as he is? Probably yes, but it'll come off a little different. Like, people fear him. And when people fear you, you're going to be up here, you're going to be broke down. That's what comes, they broke Brian down. I mean, that's, come with this shit.

You know what I'm saying? Being great, come with this shit. Averaging triple-double two times, like, something no one's, you're doing some shit no one's ever done. Like, feel me? Like, you have, you're in your own lane. So, of course, him coming off the bench, obviously, him coming off the bench to,

and I'm starting, feel me? A guy who we got into it with, you know what I'm saying? Like, it was just a bad combination. They should have started me, Austin, Russ, LeBron, AD. That's how I should have started. Obviously, I'm not a coach. You feel me? I'm not here trying to, you feel me,

politic or how things should have went. But that should have been the starting lineup since we walked in the door. You got to think, we started Kendrick Nunn. He was just coming back from injury. Mind you, we started Kendrick Nunn all preseason. But we started him, you know, hopefully he get his rhythm, all that. You know, in started Kendrick Nunn all preseason, but we started him, you know, hopefully he get his rhythm,

all that, you know, in the dough, it should have been me, AR, Russ. Because when we did start that way preseason, I don't know if you all watched, but preseason, I know we played Phoenix Suns in Vegas, and we started that way. It was up by 23 points. The team just left the Western Conference, and all the guys played. No, but we didn't go that way. Coach had different ideas. You know, we started off Lonnie Walker and AD got hurt.

You know, one plus one is two. You know what I'm saying? Who playing point with you and Russ out there? It don't matter. Interchangeable? It don't matter. Bring it up. Whoever bring it up. Russ, bring that bitch. I just, okay, cool. I'm corner three. I feel my fit in it. I have it go. Yup.

A.R. go beat him. He go pay off the catch. LeBron, he go fill in the pieces. And AD, he go maintain it. But we couldn't. Y'all never asked. We started Lonnie Walker. And, you know, there's no difference between Lonnie Walker. Gil had some opinions. We started Lonnie Walker. You know what I'm saying?

So we were still trying to figure it out. You know, obviously, as a first-year coach, he's trying to figure it out. Did y'all ask him? Y'all ever ask him? You know, our job is to play. I'm just saying. Y'all like Lonnie Walker? I do.

I love Lonnie. But I love Lonnie. But I like Lonnie on that team where we have a six-man come in and be exactly who you are. We all played. There's always someone in a starting lineup. We're like, man, that's not him. He should be on the bench. He should be starting. I don't know why coaches sometimes don't understand

that. Ask your players who they played with. You have a vision of how you wanted to look but there's groups of players that actually play well together ask your team sometimes do a survey who do you like to start with who you like to start with like so we can see what i get because i'm seeing something that you guys are you guys are saying something and then you don't ever do and then you don't all that all the beef about don't, all that, all the beef about Russell, maybe none of that happens.

Like, it's a way of, you know, I want to be a coach when I'm done. Like, I love the game that much. And it's ways that you have to operate your team without over-managing it or over-coaching it. Sometimes you just got to put the dominoes out there. And with human beings and basketball players, they go for them whichever way they go for them. So was it bad for the team for Russ to come off the bench?

I thought it was. I thought it was. The whole way? I thought it was bad for Russ. He was the heartbeat of the team. That's a horrible fucking decision. And it's a hard decision. I just called it what it is.

It's a difficult decision. That's why I asked the question. It's a difficult decision. Did that affect the team? I don't think it was a decision that was made. I don't think it was a decision that was made. I don't think it was a decision that was made this year. I think it was a decision that was made based on

season before. And I don't think that's fair. Based on his production? Based on the slander he was getting. The Westbrook and all that stuff. The Frank Vogel. You know what I'm saying? That era. Oh, Frank was giving them some differences? I mean, but just, you know, they wasn't winning with it. It didn't look like. It looked like it was his fault.

You had to put it on somebody else. He's the only one playing. They ain't going to blame. But that's what I'm saying. I'm going to put it on Burr. But that's as a coach. You had to give it to somebody. But that's what I'm saying. As a coach, right, and we've seen it in USA basketball,

how the fuck are you a coach and you're trying to actually win and you already preconceived what you're gonna do? You didn't even let it play out yet. So you already said I'm gonna make you to say you're not even letting the talent Dictate what you're gonna do. You're already saying this is how it's gonna be And it was hard on them dog. You got a thing for coach a man like it was hard and it's hard coming from Eastern Conference To Western Conference, first off. Like, that's way different. You know what I mean?

So, obviously, he has voices. He has things that he wants to do. As a head coach, it's things that he wants to establish. And there's also things that you got players who's been in this shit before, like, no, coach, man, we going to do this shit or do this shit. So, like, from the beginning, he was putting, like, he did a hell of a job with the team still. You know what I'm saying? He did a hell of a job with the team still Mm-hmm, you know he did a hell of a job with the team still but like do I think that team had a chance to be? Very successful. Yes. I do still do it's just Things one used right, you know, and I understand you feel me and Kendrick nuns come up in you

You got to get his confidence back when you go lose you feel me? So you you feel me? I'll got Seattle's look ad don't really like to play five He want to play foe but you feel me he need a big, because that's the reason y'all won in the bubble, because you had a five next to him. So, okay. And then I just left Brook Lopez. So, it does sound right.

Kendrick Nunn, Lonnie Walker, I liked your game, too. You know, it was just a lot. It was just a lot. It was a lot. You juggled it well, though. Yeah. He definitely juggled it well. Yeah.

First, your head coach. Yeah. First, your head coach. What happened? What happened, Gil? We had to trade Russ to the Clippers. What? Hey. Yeah, I'm definitely in first your head coach. Yeah, first head coach. Well, I'm responsible girl We had a trade we had trade rusted a Clippers. Well, hey, that's not juggling it. Well, huh? We bought the bill Okay, I appreciate it. Hey, but I mean like but look Six and six no, no, what's so funny? I give him a better grade than I gave Frank Vogel, and he won a championship.

I like him. I ain't never been under Frank Vogel. I like him. I like him. It's a lot of freedom. It's a lot of freedom in his offense. He let you be. He started me.

You feel me? When I wasn't even shooting the ball well, so I have not one bad word to say about Coach Ham. You feel me? Like, I just didn't agree with who should be starting at the time. I felt like, okay, cool, that's cool, but we got a secret recipe behind here that motherfuckers ain't never seen before. Right, right. Like what you said the other day

about him being on the Olympic team. He look down at motherfucking Ross and be like, I'm playing behind Kendrick. Like, fuck, like, really? Yeah. Like, he started before. Do you know who I am? Yeah, but that's what I'm saying.

Like, you as a coach, you have to really understand, like, personality. Like, Austin, if I start you or I don't start you, you're going to give me what you're going to give me. If I bring him off the bench, I might lose this. Because he's looking at you and the rest of this team like, who the fuck are these guys? So when you thought about bringing Russ off the bench this he was done And I think he was done and I think Austin Reeves would have got more if We would have started to take me rust AR bra ad and there's again no disrespect anybody on the team I believe a I would have got more able and bread to because he would have been winning so many

But we was actually crazy. So this is a group decision, right? Right. This is a fucking group decision that's being made here Did nobody in the coaches meeting or none of this shit be like You know, that's a fucking horrible idea, right? Like I was I understand when the coach means gonna stay in here, right? You don't want to really challenge the head coach authority at times. I get that. But it was more thought put into this shit and conversation put into it.

It just wasn't he woke up, I'm going to bring Russ off the bench. Don't hire me as a coach and assistant coach. But they expect you not to say shit, though. But in this situation. Don't hire me because I'm going to tell you. And then the first year coach trying to get his. And then they got. But that's the thing. But don't, because I'm going to tell you. And then they got... But don't hire me, because...

Yeah, so they got... You're a first-year. I want you to be... Assistant coaches around. That's why you hired me. Yeah. That's dumb. Yeah, they got assistant coaches around them, though.

You know what I'm saying? At what point do they start... Do they put Russ on the bench, though? No, I don't... But did he start out starting, right? I don't think you even think about putting him on the bench. But that's easy. He started out, right? He started out starting, and then don't I don't think you haven't even think about putting them on the bench But that's easy. He started out right? He started out starting and then they put him on then he went to the I forgot how I think he's game fifth game. That's what I'm saying. He started out and they

If they didn't do that They had a conversation about this dog Right before even to be a fucking thing like they trying to give him a chance like let's see what he do let's get let's give him two games fucking thing they talked about this guarantee the motherfuckers talked about and they coached me and that's the hard decision to make too though feel me it's not a hard come on let's be honest it's it's not a hard if he not producing in the starting lineup not you're fucked. Not producing. And I'm not talking about basketball. My thing, I'm just talking about L.A. media.

Right? Oh, the media. It's a hard decision. Like, when you come in to coach, you coach for Milwaukee Bucks is different than coaching for the Lakers. Even though you're coaching for an NBA team, it's just different. You feel me? Them lights.

Any decision you make will be broke down to the tedious form. Have you ever seen it? That's just how it goes at L.A. If you're playing well, it's going to look like you're seen it. That's just how it goes in L.A. If you're playing well, it's going to look like you're playing great. When you run into a motherfucker in L.A., man, you're on a high street, man, this motherfucker is averaging 12. It just looks good because you're on TV all the time. And if you're going through a cold street, you're going to look like you're trash.

That's just how it is in L.A., you feel me? So, like, I don't even think it was production. I just think it was, man, what L. la was saying? This is a because this prediction 1765 And leave I mean I we not even talking he broke the record off triple-doubles off the bench like yeah half a season like No one's even talking about it. It's the craziest thing in the world The man has broke every fucking record and people just be bum ass He shot 41 40% from three. People call him Wes Brick.

How? How? That's like the motherfucker asking Allen Iverson to come off the bench. Are you fucking serious? In Memphis. Like, really, motherfucker? Like, really? Like, really? But that's the problem, though.

I'm Chuck. That's the problem, though. You are you, and you know you shouldn't come off the bench, but if you want to keep playing but you have to But the master to him is different though the man said is like, okay I'm on the bench because obviously I haven't produced as I should so now I'm in I got to produce We don't mean that might pressure fucker swing swinging. That might be I got good driving this bitch So now you don't you don't assume the role based on what another motherfucker think produce, which means that might... Pressure. Swing, swing. That might be... I'm driving this bitch. You feel me? So now, you done assumed the role based on what another motherfucker think, and you playing a type of ball that you think that the top head don't want you to play, but you think

it's the perfect way to play. Man, they want me to produce off the bench. I'm going to be the lead in this. I'm going to be the lead in that. And it don't fit. It changes your game. But when you could just, you feel me, have conversations of, you feel me, cool, this is what we want, this is what we want.

And that's what you're doing now. And that'd be the hard part. You feel me? It'd be hard for these coaches to come in, especially first year and have these conversations with these, you're talking about star studded motherfucking teams. You're talking about three Hall of Fames in the door. First ballast. Three of them.

You feel me? And you said one come off the bench. Yeah, you feel me? You saying one come off the bench? Yeah, you feel me? You saying one come off the bench, four motherfuckers. And another one finna come off the bench and go to safe. Like how does that sound? Another Hall of Famer, so what's the problem? Allegedly.

They better bring him off the bench. If they want a chance, they better bring that nigga, the cone, off the bench. Sound like you got something on your chest over there, Mr. B. I'm just asking the question. That shit going to be disgusting. I don't think it's going to be disgusting. I think it might work.

You think that Warriors, Steph, CP3? As long as you got Looney and people call me crazy. As long as you got Looney and you got Draymond, you got a chance. I don't know how all that other stuff fit. I ain't a coach yet. I'm still a hooper. I can't wait to see how I shape up in the season. As long as you got them two motherfuckers,

Draymond Green and Looney, you go put yourself in position because they go clean up all the nastiness of the team. I'm with you. Whatever you like, man. I just want to know how he's going to look at winning. Hey, yo, I got a question. I think Steph don't have to have the ball as much.

He don't have to. I think he'll preserve more Hey, yo, I got a question. I think Steph don't have to have the ball as much. He don't have to. I think he'll preserve more energy that way. I got a question. Okay. I want to know. Shit out somebody. All right, since we've been here, since we, you know, kicking it, we chilling and all that. Yeah, what do I know?

Know what? What do I know? So, like. You said, yo, BJ know what's up. So, like. What do you think I know? Here we go. I'm going to tell you.

So, as a Hooper, right? Here we go um I'm gonna tell you so here we go we here now as a hooper as a hooper you uh you run into certain people that you just know like all right you can feel them for sure yeah I can feel you yeah I could I could I could feel you I could feel D-Lo his first couple years and Lonzo Ball first couple years like, oh, I'm about to rip y'all heads off. That's the feeling I had for you. Okay. And that's what I knew that you knew.

You knew that I knew that? I knew that. You think I knew that? I think if you was to play Patrick Bradley, I don't think you would have went out the night before. For sure. I'm going out regardless. Well, then I was wrong. But we only played three times. What was your stats?

We only played three times. Like, we only played three times. But you went out. Did you go out? I don't know. I don't remember. But I'm just saying, like, we played three times. So I'm just trying to figure out what do I know? As being, like, as being who I am. Because I feel like because I feel like if I get in shape in three months,

everybody going to know what's up. But I think, no, no. No, no, I think. But I think this mindset, right? Obviously, we're, I don't know, 19, 20, 21 then, right? We 30-some now. So, obviously, as you grow up in your daily walks in life, obviously, each man begins to have his own confidence within himself.

At that 21-year-old you, I don't think you had that same mindset of like... At 21, I was averaging 19 a game in the league. Where did you score then? Huh? No, no, listen, I understand... I mean, at 21, I was in Milwaukee, so that's my second year in the league. So, I know what I'm doing. No, I understand what both of you scored, huh? No, no I mean at 21 I was in Milwaukee. So that's my second year in the league. So I know what I'm doing No, I understand what both of you said, right? I get it. I just knew when I faced Brandon Jennings I was like, okay cool. It's the motherfucker that was overseas before me. He had a better job

This is my father who was I was a 40 toothpick. Mm-hmm. I'm so fucked up. I thought you were six I even rounded you up. No Because I'm out because I had the same energy you know so like I'm like I'm like yeah I want to run into him and at that time I don't really think nobody wanted to run into me because I was I was I was going against a lot of these listen that's the only motherfucker reason I got drafted man I was overseas I didn't go to college I got drafted from Ukraine second division so I don't know motherfucking scouts coming on motherfucking second division Ukraine all my work was put in those motherfucking NBA workouts

You know I'm saying and I know motherfuckers like man It's got to think it's the most draft much point guards the NBA ever drafted. We drafted 23 point guard that you I Don't know. I just think I just feel like at 21 if I don't tear my if I don't get hurt my I'm an all-star So I'm not really fearing nobody like I don't know what's up with nothing. I'm just saying I'm just stand on my No, I get I feel the respect respect like I as a competitor no I mean as a competitor you know it's always it's always love though but like it's just what what he's saying is trust me listen he drunk I'm no no I'm averaging 29 right Kobe stop right Rajah bail stop matrix stop all first team all defense y'all

can let that shit go I'm busting your ass one person I didn't want to see Marcus banks tuck going to sleep early they're gonna get from what team he was on autumn up we're gonna pick me up full court I'm gonna pick me up full court. I'm gonna sleep Everybody else in the NBA who thought they played defense stop You didn't even have to make up the guard me he did Five listen, I don't give a fuck if he played three minutes a game four minutes a game two minutes a game I went to sleep early just so for those two three minutes Marcus Bates every time we played 12 times. He shut me down 12 times

It's just a nature to be best defensive player I ever played against in my life Marcus Bates as is this I mean no we cleared up How was it when we played I I mean, no, we cleared up. I mean, listen, we cleared up. I just had to ask. I mean, I'm going to ask. But I'm just saying, like, it don't matter. How was it when we played? I mean, I don't, I mean, it was nasty. It was nasty. It was nasty. No matter what you digged out, what was the stats?

I mean, where they at? Look them up. Bro. It was three times. You already looked at it. We played three times. What'd you score? We played three times. It was nasty hoop for both of us.

It was nasty hoop for both of us. He's not talking about his offense. I didn't know what you scored. All I'm saying. It was nasty. It was nasty It was nasty who is what I'm saying was nasty who so you play nasty we was nasty It was natural. I'm like it was nasty But okay, we cleared it up let it go Play bad they not giving you credit for the defense. Exactly. That's all I'm saying. No one credits his dad. Okay, I'll play bad.

Okay, so, okay. I'm getting this shit. I'm sick of this shit. I'm sick of that. I'm sick of this shit. Let's play once right now. So, look. I'm working out.

I'm working out. But, Pat. Wait, wait. He was pretending that he had 20, but he don't. He really has. No, no, no. I know I didn't have 20. No, no, no, I know I didn't have 20. No, no, no, no, I didn't have 20.

What do you have? I didn't have 20. I had like eight. Eight, seven, seven. Yeah. So from that, I've done my part. I remember one time. And from that, remember what my experience was with Brandon Dennis?

It's one game. It's one game. Me coming up. It's one game I'm mad Pat didn't play. It's one game I'm mad Pat didn't play. It's one game I'm mad Pat didn't play. It's one game I'm mad Pat didn't play. It's one game I'm mad Pat didn't play. You know what game that is. New York, when I was on New York and I started,

and I gave Montrez and them 35. But maybe that's why you gave them, because I didn't play. I was no match. No, no, no. I was waiting for you to play. Pat knocked him for us. No, no, no. So Pat didn't play?

No, no. But listen, this is the funny thing. This is the funny thing. Pat got up and said something. I'm like, come on here. Like, you ain't playing tonight. He got 35. That was the first time I started.

And that was the first time I started that year. So I just felt like whoever it was that night was going to get it. I mean, we can find out next year in the Drew. You know, I ain't done nothing. I'm going to get in shape. But that's not the only thing we have to clear up here. That's not the only thing we have to clear up here.

That's not the only thing we can't clear up here. That's not the only thing we have to clear up here. That's not the only thing we came to clear up here. That's not the only thing we came to clear up here. Please tell the story. No, we're done. No, Pat, we're done. I'm with all the boys. No, no, no, Pat, we're done. I'm with all that.

That ain't the only thing we came to clear up here. He quit. He quit. Tell the story. Coach Ham said you quit. I don't have to lie. You can ask him. Tell the story.

What story? We hooped. I finished the workout. You didn't. Okay, so you said you made me quit. I don't have to lie. You guys tell the story. What's the we hooped I finished the workout you did okay? So you said you made me quit on I don't I ain't never worked out with a person that didn't finish You said you made me quit that said, but look, but look. Hey, Pat, see, this is what was crazy. I don't even know Pat like that to even, like, hear those words come out of his mouth like that.

No, no, no, no, no. You knew who you were talking about that day. But I can't do that. No, no, no. You know that. I remember what. I can't do that. I'm not going to say a nigga don't know him.

I get this a lot still. I get this a lot. Why y'all interrupting the story? I can't rock with that one. I'm not going to say a nigga don't know him. I get this a lot. Why y'all interrupting the story? I can't ride with that one. Why you interrupting the story? It ain't no story. It should be. I've never worked out with somebody. If you made me quit.

I've never worked out with somebody. And we're working out to make an NBA team. We ain't working out for no motherfucking AU team. We ain't working out for no this Joe Blow fucking league. We are working out for the Los Angeles Lakers. I finished finished the workout coach hand was the motherfucking person running the workout He came to me before the season start. Hey, man, you remember that workout we had man you mr. Shane maybe he quit I forgot about I damn I did make him up for quit damn Okay, so here we go so here we go

There was no story 13 years ago Brandon. He said there was no story, Brandon. 13 years ago. Brandon, he said there was no story. So let me tell it. Okay, I mean. He said he, it was Darv that said it. No, I said. We doing. I just said I. Listen, we doing the jump test, all the little metric tests before we do the workout.

I don't want to hear that shit. I don't want to hear that. That's that losing mentality shit. I don't want to hear that shit. That shit don't go to me, man. Yeah, I'm ready for that. I jump up. I'm ready for that. Workout Will you will you will know the side of the story you start get the relax no, I just know you trigger You can come the whole time right now. You start getting to relax. You triggered. No, you triggered. You've been calm the whole time. You've been calm the whole time. The reason I was working out for the Lakers

for a favor. It was a favor workout. My agent, Mitch Kupchak, gave me the UNC, we're going to bring you in. When he called me that day to go in for the workout, he said, Shai, this is is gonna be easy. I said who I'm working out with Said we don't know some somebody from overseas. Yeah, but yeah, so I said what's his name?

I hear the back with that. I said what's his name crazy mom? What's his name? I said Pat Beverly. I don't know who that is. But whoever it is, he's not in my way. Say less. He's not in my way. Who is he? Niggas know.

Who? And what happened? Who is he? Oh, he a point guard. Why they got me working out with a point guard? Why they got me working out with a point guard? So I do the jump. I'm not going front.

I do the bird jump. Anybody that's working out for the NBA team, we not fucking around. What are you talking about? If I got a chance to work out for an NBA team, I'm not going front. I do the bird jump. Anybody that's working out for the NBA team, we not fucking around. Right. What are you talking about? If I got a chance to work out for an NBA team, I'm not fucking around. So look. Like, I don't give a fuck. Look, they already promised me the spot. Okay.

They promised me the spot. So after the workout was done and I said I couldn't go no more, Mitch met me at half court and said, shot. What's that mean? I don't need you. I didn't need you to work out. But I got drafted by the Lakers. How did that work out?

Mitch. Mitch. Mitch said, I did not. I got drafted by the Lakers. Hey, Mitch. Mitch. Mitch said, I did not. I got drafted by the Lakers. Brandon, you see he not letting me. He's still getting the explaining. He's still getting the explaining. He's still getting the explaining. So, listen. Go ahead. Go ahead.

So, if Mitch telling me, listen, Shaw, you haven't played in a year. We need to see some footage, bro. Go overseas, get some footage. We got you. This is Mitch UNC Connect. Half court. I say, Mitch, man, I can't go no more.

He said, don't even worry. We didn't bring you in here to go. What the fuck does that have to do with me? We didn't bring you in to go because I didn't quit, nigga. I already had the spot. You was the motherfucker that was just in there nigga so why you was just in there that we're not talking about the people that's supposed to be i wanted to kill you my nigga i didn't want it i'm like yo you're a point guard you don't got a chance you didn't have a chance but i did you're a point guard you didn't have a fucking chance in the

world nigga you still don't got a chance in the world nigga you would never have a fucking chance in the world Don't got a chance in the world You gotta prove yourself against me I Second degree ankle sprain my nigga No real Darvin told me you but oh Darvin told me I didn't say nothing. I didn't say that Darvin told me now all of a sudden You know So the angle so he twisted his ankle. I don't know I don't know No, I'm trying to figure out so you twisted your ankle He said he made me quit. Ask him what he was doing to make me quit. Beating you in the workout.

Beating me in a shoot. We're shooting jumpers. We were playing one on one. No, we weren't. We did one up and down. That's why I said no. Which one? We did one up and down.

We did one up and down. We did one up and down. Just be honest. We did one up and down. Any hoop or no. Any hoop or no. Any hoop or no. Any hoop or no. If you're playing and trying out for an NBA team.

I'm not trying out. You're trying out, nigga. You're trying out. That's why you got to give 130%, nigga. He promised me the spot. You in there. You in there just to fucking be there, nigga. You're not there to do anything else.

Have another nigga in there with me. But no. What you talking about? The problem is the ball is strong. But look, I know y'all niggas just teaming up.

Y'all should high five each other. No, no, no. High five each other. Y'all niggas is crazy. Y'all niggas, hey, ask the chat

if it's obvious. Just say, is it obvious? Only if the playoffs won. You know the niggas ask the chat, just ask them this, is it obvious? Is it, name of it. Ask the chat. Just ask them this. Is it obvious?

Is it obvious? Ask them that. Is it obvious? Don't ask them nothing else. Ask them what? No, just ask them, do they see what I see? Is it obvious? Wait, wait, wait.

I ain't asking them anything. No, no, no. I'm just trying to figure it out. Because I just backed you. I don't know. Back me. Back me what? I backed you. We're trying to figure out. No, I'm just asking them. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don good defense. He did. He did play good defense. So what he said is valid. And what I said about you is valid. When he said Brandon Jennings, no. He said Brandon Jennings, no. I said, okay. Valid. I said, okay.

I don't know shit. I didn't quit for shit. I didn't quit because Pat Beverly was out there. Oh, so you quit because you was hurt? Yes, nigga. All right then. My ability. I actually played the game so I can't go off.

Your ability action. You ain't got an ability to make nobody quit. If my stats say what it is, that's what it is. So I can't go off. Ain't no ability. What you mean? What the fuck is y'all talking about? Is it obvious? I can't go Is it obvious? Let me bring it in. Is it obvious? So we asked the chat, is it obvious? 47% said yes, 53% said no.

47? Woo! It's still trending. Wait, wait, wait. 47? I just asked the question. Did you quit? Woo!

Which world is that? Brandon. I did not quit, nigga. We trying to get the chat's response. But that's what I'm saying. Gil, Gil. We trying to get the chat's response. I didn't quit. This the first time I heard about it. So which way is it?

Hold on a second. Which way is it? They had this information. Man, you emotional ass niggas calm as fuck. We been waiting for you. I think you came here to talk about it. You emotional ass niggas calm down. Emotionally Emotional niggas calm down let this man go y'all can't handle y'all liquor. No this man Had ain't drink. I played in Boston. What's the I heard the name 47% say yes Yes, what?

But you did I heard of it you quit it's not you said that way to know If you can't finish a workout, you quit. You quit? You said that word too much. No, if you don't fit, I quit. It's obvious. It's obvious, my nigga. 47%. All right, I need to chill.

We got to wrap this up in a second, but I got one more question for Pat. All right. It's becoming obvious. So you signed with the Sixers. Wait, hold on. You signed with the Sixers. What's becoming obvious?

I don't know. We don't know. No, no, no. What's becoming obvious? Ask the chat.. We don't know. No, no, no, no, no. I got a clue. What's becoming obvious? Ask the chat. Ask the chat.

It's 47%. Don't ask me. I just asked. I want to know what is obvious. 52% says no. I'm confused. 52% says no. I don't know.

I'm confused. I don't know. I don't know. That's how we work on this show. We go to the chat. That's what they do all the time. Oh, okay. So this cat. Is the chat show. Oh, jeez. So there's chat. Is the chat obvious? Okay, got it.

The chat's sitting? No. What is the obvious? He's just hurting. No, he ain't even helping. All right, all right, all right. I don't know. Before we get off there, what is obvious?

I don't know. The chat don't know. He said no. No, no, I got a question. Have you... If you work out with somebody, right? I got a... Mm, he got it.

Here we go. You already said it. Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead. So if you... Have you ever worked out with somebody and ended the fuck with you. Go ahead. So if you, if you, if you, have you ever worked out with somebody and ended the workout? True. Because your ankle hurt?

I'm asking you. I've, I've started a workout. Started a workout. Healthy, everything cool. The story comes about

we was just shooting, then that changed and we were playing one-on-one. Then that changed and we were stretching. Then that changed and we were jumping. He talking. I'm always like, y'all niggas in beyond it cuz we never I never fuck I don't give a fuck. I don't play games. So I was hurt

Yeah, yeah for sure. We are. Yeah. No. No, I left a workout in Boston and the niggas in Boston said they ran me off the court All right, did they? Did they you put a blicky on the day? No, no my my killies. Did they run you off the court? Yeah, I can say no, but they're gonna say yeah You was in there to rebound nigga, that's not rebound nigga you got but he got drafted but he got drafted but the lakers drafted but they drafted they not in here to watch you though they not in here to watch you so why drive a person that can't where he's there to rebound you know this cat they not in here to watch you you know i'm in here it's obvious my nigga pups pups hey it'sups. Pups. Pups.

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Pups. Pups. Pups. Pups. Pups. Pups. Pups. Pups. Who do you believe? I need to go get filmed. Can we get the poll? Who do you believe? Rashad or Pat Baird? I was off for an hour. I was off for a whole year. I can't believe y'all didn't stop. You ain't got to never hear it, nigga.

I just told you. If a motherfucker didn't finish my workout, I'd bust his ass. Gilbert, did they run you off the floor? When I hurt my Achilles? My nigga. Nope. But they said they did. Why are you saying but?

But they said. But I'm saying a group of people. It was just me and him. Gilbert, fuck the group of people, okay? I'm sorry. They said they ran me off the floor, and they didn't. And they did. But that's the story.

I got hurt. But that's what's up. My story, their story. That's all it is. To be fair, I can't take this off. They ran you off the floor, Gilbert. From my perspective, no. What do you mean from your perspective?

There's no question. From theirs, it's no. They did. How about this? You bring an overseas guy in, fly me in to L.A. to rebound, and then draft me? Whew. What hotel did they put you up at? No, no, no.

She cold. Fly her in. Go out. And don't do nothing with her? Hey, we can't pick McKay. Hey, Trev. Trev. Trev. Trev. Tre Hey, we can't pick McKay Problem these this he's that we gotta make sure McCann's is who McCann see is so we'll take this this young nigga from overseas

Cuz McCann's got approved to us us we want to humble him right and he's got him so we're gonna drag Overseas so we go drive overseas because we got a major that this nigga right here was the first-round draft pick from North Carolina Champion all of that shit had a guarantee fucking bucket guarantee working Sure, he is who he said he is how did that work? It worked out perfect. Nigga, what the fuck you mean? What you do? I don't have to do shit.

I'm me. I don't know what that means. How many careers panned out for everybody, my nigga? I didn't talk about careers. Yeah, so what are you talking about? How did it work out? What do you mean? How did it work out for you? In what sense?

In any sense. I'm me. I'm right here right now, nigga. What the fuck you mean? So what do you mean, how did it work out? Nigga, I'm here. What do you mean, how did it work out? What kind of question is that? No, no, no, no, no. Right now New York Knicks right I'm playing New York Knicks. I play New York Knicks playing against all Barry No, it hurt playing gets more Barry. All right, because I guess my friend plenty gets small, but no no he's in bathroom No, we not he in there. Okay. I'm playing against Mulberry hurt right the kid is all better playing a small, but no no he's in the bathroom No, we not he in there. Okay. I'm playing against Mulberry. They hurt right so y'all may be different size

This is gonna be my side planning is Mulberry Whooping his ass in the first half whooping his ass in the first half He didn't come back at the halftime got a migraine we thought they made you quit he got a migraine No, no what I'm saying Know what I'm saying is he got He got a micro Even when you do hurt it don't hurt what did you talk about? We talk about no, but what Right? Even when it do hurt. Even when it do hurt, it don't hurt. What did you talk about, man?

So look. What are we talking about? No, what I'm saying is, hey, hey, hey. One microfracture too, buddy. Me too, nigga. Me too, nigga. Still playing. Me too.

Me too, nigga. Don't judge me. Me too. Judge me off my body and what I'm doing in conversation. Me too. What the fuck you mean? I ain't got no hair. You got to watch what you say when you ain't backing it up,

nigga. Somebody else told you I quit. You quit. You mean you gotta watch what you say when you are backing it up. They don't want to say somebody else Somebody else told you I quit you quit you said somebody else told you I said I said now you didn't Cuz you just said in the beginning So I hear that. So he quit. I know it hurts. So he didn't come back at halftime, and Francis didn't come back at halftime. Yeah.

You did your job or no? No, no, no. So I broke Larry Bird's record. Most points under 30 minutes, right? No matter how good those two guys are, in my mind, they are weak-minded because they quit. So somebody told me when somebody talking and they get on the phone, that's the action of say less. You know what I mean?

So I just got a text. Say what you got on my phone, homie. From Darvin Hamm Sr. No, I'm just kidding. Where's the chest in, man? Where's the chest in? So I'm going to say this. So I came in.

I had my show. I came on y'all's show. We talked about the incident that obviously happened between me and Big Janice. We talked about the incident that happened in McCants. There was no lies detected on my end. Zero. I don't understand what all the fuss is about. I said what I said about DJ.

I'm done talking about it. We brought up his stats. I think I'm done talking about it. We discussed what we had to do. I had to do the same stretching. I had to do the same running. I had to do the same running. Like he said, I was coming from overseas. I should have been the one at the pool or something.

You're right. You're absolutely right. I didn't, though. That's a lack of being prepared or not being prepared. Damn, that's what it is? I don't know. You just said it. You just said it out your mouth.

I'm just saying, but I got to take it. You said, I don't know, but then you said it. I said it on my show. I came on this show. I had the conversation about the things I said on my show No lies detected from now on for zero. I tell the truth all the time that nigga quit and that I'm a quitter then I'm a quarter tail based on these conversations. He doesn't stand a chance because it's obvious It's obvious

47 because you was you was trying to fit in or what I was You right you would try to let me you had to go the dough and they open that bitch for me Yeah Because when I came up I didn't have to do all that shit I did yeah you did Remember that then I can make you remember that my nigga. I like I didn't get kicked out of the league cuz of talent nigga. I Make a I haven't asked around nigga. I have a new this I am NOT gonna do it cuz I need to try out cuz they want to see if I was good enough Wait, hold on wait wait wait wait talking about 82%

But we got a purpose of with the 17 the bulk of the chat ain't shit Okay, we'll get fuck about I will get fucked by the chat anyway, cuz they made me smoke I was 87 what a crown I want to feel light it is. Ooh that now we know what our energy is He won't when I got he was God did you see how he spoke? Fast-forward is that we don't see some other crazy this you got the way Like I say they did Anybody else fuck him. He said he won't he won't break around we got a shattered blackboard I'm trying to get it too! That's the energy! 10-1. Nigga, remember that shit.

You know you want to get that. Last question for you, Pat. Yeah, nigga. It's kind of like the same thing. Last question for you. He warmed up for like 22 shots. It's his. Can we go to the next joke?

Yeah, man, go to the next show. Yeah, man I'll go to the next seat. So last question we got we appreciate you pull it up We appreciate all the talk that was given we've embraced we've all moved forward We got to get darvin him on the show, but he don't really fuck with it. Yeah, you got to make the call to Darwin We don't have them I mean what we call it? No, I'm just saying to get him on the show. Let's get him on the show. He's going, my nigga. I don't even know anything about this. He said he want one of Brandon's chains.

He want one of Brandon's chains. If he going to come on the show. Darvin said he needed it. Come on, man. So, Pat, you signed with the Sixers. I don't know, you've been monitoring this whole Harden situation. And what's the mood like going into camp? Have you been with the team at all?

I think you've got to get Nick Nurse. We've had, I don't know, we've got together as a team. Do some workouts and stuff. Got some workouts here in L.A. I think you've got to get Nick Nurse a ton of credit, right, to, like, stay focused in the midst of, like, you know, distraction that the NBA might present to you. He's been doing a hell of a job. He's been implementing the system here.

Guys have been, you know, we've been locked in, man. It's been fun. It's been fun. It's been fun to be able to come out there and kind of, you know, pick his brain and learn from him a little bit. So y'all worried about it at all?

He on the phone again. He on the phone again. I like him. Yo, I ain't seen this man be on the phone all show. Now he on the phone. Yo, so what are you... Man, you watching me over here? I've been watching you I ain't seen this man be on the phone all show. Now he on the phone. Yo, so what are you, um... You watching me over here?

I've been watching you since we walked to the Lakers gym. Stop that! What are you talking about? What are you talking about? I'm crazy. Hey, pork you, hey, pork you, PINE! I know what I'm doing. Hey, hey, I got a question. I got a question. Hey, hey

I got a question so James coming back this year right and then be you know, right coming back this year, right? Right. So what is your role being a locker room guy? Oh gee, like, you know saying like what is your mindset coming into this year? Whitwick Philly like, you know impact winner, right? Whatever that is. Right. So whether it be there or not Whatever my sister is right so whether it be there or not whatever yeah my shit don't bother him yeah yeah that's still that i'm still gonna be me that i mean that's what that's how i pay my bills that's how i take care of my family like if i if i'm anything else yeah that don't that don't work okay we hear it all look what they put in the dock put the boogeyman all right, Pat, we appreciate it. We got one more segment we do.

It's called Mostly Fans, where we take questions from the fans. We appreciate you fucking with us. Yeah, look at me, nigga. You're an honorable man. Nobody's throwing no twat at me. You're looking at me like, what's going to be up there? Oh, God, I'll be here like this. Mostly fans.

You're an honorable man. We got a two-minute warning on the show if y'all want to get all the treats and trinkets ready. Oh, Lord. So, first one comes from... We need all the liquor. Big Chef 62. Pat, we'll start with you because you're our guest. We appreciate you pulling up.

Who was the smartest player you've played against, and what did they do for you to think that? James Hart. And that was me playing against him in practice. Just to see the way he's able to manipulate a defense Get to the free throw line. You know, he changed the rules twice The way he operated pick and roll his mindset offensively I think he kind of opened my eyes to like okay. I got to change my mindset defensively, you know be as crafty be as clever

So do you think it's fair to take the flopping rule away from him? Does it hurt you? Does it stop you from being great, right? If I take a rule away from him, it stops you from really dialing in, right? You think it's fair to take away the offense to help you out? I don't know, because they change it every year. It's something they change every year. If it's not that, you can't touch a guy

or you can touch a guy on a certain part of the floor. If it's not the sweep through three, it's the sweep through three to the five. There's so many things that guys can find ways to be clever. I just think I've been playing the same way since I got in the league. I've been a hack since I got in the league. That's like the wide receiving cornerback league. You know what I'm talking about? You feel me? Yeah, that's like the wide-receiving cornerback thing. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah. Like, it's always going to change no matter what the defense do to try to be great. They're going to always tweak the rule to benefit offense. You know what I'm saying? Because teams don't want to see guys. Yeah. You feel me? Especially in the regular season.

You don't want to see a team score 89 points. You know what I'm saying? Everybody watching that shit. I want to see a motherfucker score 134 points. I want to see that. It's the old school thing. Chicks dig the long way. The playoffs,

they know they're going to get all the viewership, so it don't matter what you score. You'll still watch it because that's what's out right now. You just got to play the game,

and that's why I don't like to change my shit because, feel me, if I've been a hack since then, maybe instead of getting six fouls a game, now I get eight. You know what I'm saying?

That's how it is with me. I think for me I think for me I have to say Steve Nash when I came in early Steve Nash because I was trying to play against him I just didn't have a certain type of coaching teammates but just his ways of finding ways to get assists early and still like he'll average eight and six in the first quarter and you'll be like oh I stopped him I stopped him but then at the end of the day it's like 15 and 15 that's like and then they win but so it's like you know I'm just trying to like I used to pick his brain a lot early, but just didn't have the same type of

Like system he had but my was brawn brawn it was in the playoffs and I didn't catch it I didn't catch it until This second year So I was watching the first year to figure out what we did wrong. And I watched that, besides watching him watch film on us, like, I don't give a fuck what you watch, because that is just for the rest of them, sorry. But I didn't... That's for the sorry, too.

I didn't realize that on the court what he was doing was he would give a signal to the coach to take out Ogalskis. When he takes out Ogalskis, we took out Brendan. When we took out Brendan, LeBron was the biggest person on the court. So him, Larry Hughes would start attacking. So when you look at all the game winners, there was no center on the court. I didn't realize he was manipulating our defense to be successful towards the bottom of the game. And that was like, from there, I had never seen nobody do that. You know, especially when I was on the court and I was like, he outsmarted me.

Man, he did question. Next one. Let's go to the next one. I'm ready to party. Okay. Come on, I'm ready to party. All right, this one comes from- It is thick in here.

It is thick in here. Underdog user, King Josiah 54. I need a $50, Gil. I'm fucking getting my ass- That's you? Yeah, it's for me. You can hit the blend again. We're at 16,000.

It's a new record for Gil's Arena. 16,000. We need to see you hit that money. That's what's up, Gil. We can get a whole- Let's get it. We can get 16,000 live. We can get 16,000 live. We can get 16,000. It's a new record for Gil's Arena. 16,000. We need to see you hit that 100. We can get a whole. Let's get it. We can get 16,000 live.

Different nigga when them lights come on. When they announce you out. Let's do it, man. OK, we out here. We're getting the shit ready. But Pat, first and foremost, man, we want to just thank you, appreciate you for coming to our season one finale.

Thank you, bro. Been excited to have you come on the show. Appreciate you. Keep going. Hey, man, we want to just thank you, appreciate you for coming to our season one finale. Thank you, bro. We've been excited to have you come on the show. Appreciate you. Keep going. Hey, man, we're going to give you our sponsors, too. Yeah. And you know what? You know, hey, we got to give Ms. Flowers, too, though.

We got to give Ms. Flowers, man, for the route that you took, though. Like, I respect your story. I respect where you come from. This show is presented by Underdog Fantasy. You're a pity of an underdog coming in, having to go overseas three, four car not a great career for yourself. I like peed I did for you, you know Take it easy on these Lakers this year when you see him. I know you know You know, he you know he could you beat the Lakers this year come on man hot damn we got a Fucking Laker fan man, buddy We got a fucking leg of fame man buddy

Be fat bad bad podcast on barstool make sure y'all go ahead give it a watch y'all gotta watch the whole show though Just but y'all put the clips out. You gotta talk to the No, I'm sorry, I'm sorry y'all but y'all gotta love the kids We here for TV money, I know you. We'll be done. But like right now, I keep me like, you. It's TV, nigga. Check, check, check, check, check, check, check, check, check, check. It's not even my birthday. Stop, nigga. I know.

Oh! Hey! What? It's a fucking club. Ah! Is it a boy or a girl? It's a boy or a girl. It's a nigga.

Is it a season two? It's a season two. Season two. Season two or season three? You came with a good one. Wow. Wow That's fire, that's fire. That's fire, that's fire. That's what we doing? Aye, I tried to tell you. Damn. We the champions. That's fire. What a check-in. Thank y'all. What a check-in.

That's fire. Can we turn that music down real quick? What a check-in. Check it. Check it. Check it. Check it. Check it.

Check it. Check it. Check it. Check it. Check it. Check it. Check it. Check it. Check it. Turn the music up! Run them numbers up! Put that shit on! I know it's ass shit, but I got it! That ain't Ninja Turtles, that's ass! Respect, respect. Cheers, everybody.

Hey, everybody. Cool, everybody. Yep. Run them numbers up! We did our thing! Run them numbers up! We got a very important beat to go to. We did our thing.

We did our thing. We did our thing. You happy with that one? Yes, sir. I'm happy with this one. Hey, we want to appreciate y'all. Let's get them out the make for a second. Oh Lord let's cut that music real quick. I like we want to appreciate. Yeah. I'm fucking lit a shit right now I don't know what I had some Malibu rum dog. I'm winning we

Would thank you to whole underdog crew Tim Jeremy Nick list Spencer Zach Luke Patty Sam and the rest of the crew over there for all the love and support this year. Thank you to our crew, Paolo and Carlos, Danny, Baron, Steve, Sebastian, Trevor, Abriana, Angela, everybody else who makes this show what it is. Miko, too. We got to thank the cast.

I got tears! I got tears! We want to thank the entire cast. Brandon, Rashad, Kenya, Miko, Darrell Wright, everybody else was pulled up this year. Lexi Brown just came and pulled up. Lexi Brown. I missed the beat.

Pat, we want to thank you for being here with us as we close out this season. Marcus Williams, the legend. Miles O'Neal's on the field. Miles O'Neal right here. Yeah. Legendary DJ doing his thing. And Gil, first and foremost, we want

to thank all of you for getting us this bag, dog. Yeah. Niggas was living rough. We was living rough. Thank you, Gilbert. Thank you, Gilbert. And Gil first and foremost we thank all you for getting us this bag dog Almost have to go back to shopping at Ralph's I get to to stay at Whole Foods because of you. I appreciate you. Take care of my kids, man. I almost had to go to Ralph's Club. That's what's up. But no, we appreciate you, man.

We're excited for you. And everybody in the chat, the fans, we appreciate the love, the questions, even the hate, too, man. We appreciate y'all rocking it. All these niggas say I look like a hot dog and a thumb and all the other shit. I see all that shit you guys say, but y'all watching me. I'm not watching you. So it is what it is.

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