Gil's Arena - Rashad McCants FIRES BACK At Stephen A Smith 🔥🔥🔥

Episode Date: January 10, 2024

Rashad McCants FIRES BACK At Stephen A Smith as he and Gilbert Arenas respond to his disrespect of Kobe Bryant and react to Shaquille O'Neal's appearance on the Stephen A Smith show where he gave his take on Kobe's place in the GOAT Debate. Gil's Arena also reacts to the league altering injuries to Ja Morant and Tyrese Haliburton and how the Memphis Grizzlies and Indiana Pacers will fare in their absence before discussing the controversial call on Jaylen Brown that cost the Boston Celtics a game. 2024 is the year of Gil's Arena, please consider throwing a like and subscribe!! Gil’s Arena premieres every Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GILSARENA and get a $100 first deposit match: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena SUBSCRIBE: / @gilsarena APPAREL PARTNERS TUFF CROWD: https://www.tuffcrowd.com/ ADIDAS: https://www.adidas.com/us/agent-gil-restomod-basketball-shoes/ Gr8ness: https://www.gr8nss.store/ Pre-Order Rashad's Book Here - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CD9ZQ3HD?ref_=pe_3052080_276849420 CHAPTERS: Intro 0:00:00 Show Start 0:05:30 Jonathan Majors Girlfriend Comparison 0:10:20 Big Ak Speaks On Danny Green Dirty Macking 0:18:53 Rashad Responds to Stephen A. Smith 0:28:04 Ja Morant Out For The Year 1:05:40 Haliburton Carried Off The Court 1:13:52 Celtics Pacers Controversial Ending 1:25:14 Did You Like Any Refs? 1:42:28 LeBron Gives Ty Lue ALL THE CREDIT 1:48:49 Clippers Playoff Chances 1:56:58 What's The Coldest Celebration In The League? 2:03:32 Previewing the Gil's Arena Shootout 2:06:18 Bogdon Bogdonovic Named Best Player in Serbia 2:20:29 MostlyFans 2:22:07 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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This is my school. This is what I was doing with what nobody knew. Y'all don't know what goes on in practice or the locker room. Selamat malam! Welcome back to Gil's Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy. Whoa, whoa! Ken, you were just giving us stories about cooking DePaul in his college days. Very, very spirited. Frying. All jump shots, too, in that clip. Well, mostly.

Mainly jumpers. Yeah, it was a little jump shot. Mainly turnarounds. All turnarounds. Oh, shit. But this is Gil's Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy. As always, we got the legend Gilbert Arenas here with us. What's happening? Stylin'.

I hear you know. Gil, you really upped your fashion game up. Season two. Just wanted to let you know. It's one reason, one reason only. No, you already know. One reason, one reason only. You know what that is, Joe.

Rashad, do you know what that is, Joe. Rashad, do you know what that reason is? Oh, I was like, I'm looking at his glasses. I want them. He's the future. It's return of the Mac. That's all. We got Rashad McCants back here in the building.

Steven A! Yeah, we gonna get to it. Yeah, we get to it. Let him do it. We've been waiting for you to pull up. What are those? Huh? What are those? These McCann's is man?

What you mean? I'm an innovator man. I like the innovator man back to the future man Your Chinese Man can turn it in and turn it off. You know, I'm saying bonk change it up We got your Martin back here with us on the couch. It's okay, Mark. What's that? No, you... Yeah, you've been dressing better.

You still talking about me? Why you dressing better? Huh? What could be the reason? I don't know. You're trying to level it up. I don't got no money. You're leveling up.

I don't got no money. Broke. Good. It ain't got to be that it's expensive. You just dressing... I can go to the mall. I got a lady. You level it up. Brooke Expensive You just dressed in like you're not dressing yourself The mall man Be at the mall. She do be at the mall. I ain't see you at no damn mall. I ain't see you at the mall.

I'll be at Topanga, be on Amazon. Amazon is the shit. You be on Amazon, baby, you like this? What you think about this color? I think them will go good, them shoes. You think that? With the 2X? Nah, I think that's going to be too big for you.

I think you should get the extra size. I had to lose weight to put the clothes on. I think you should get the extra gloves. You're a little tight. A little tight. I had to lose weight to put the clothes on. Yeah. Okay. Getting ready for the first annual Gills Arena shootout presented by Underdog Fantasy. We got some shooters here on this couch. We're gonna talk about that later in the show.

But here's what we- Say that again? What? We have some shooters on this couch? We got the Dream Killer, Agent Zero. Here we go with this. Oh, no. I didn't hear what he said. Oh, my God.

I thought you chose violent. I was like, ooh, shoot. I don't do no guns. Not quite yet, G. Oh, we know. We thought you chose violent. I was like, ooh, shoot, I don't do no guns. Not quite, Yegi. Oh, we know. We know. And if you do, they're not loaded. That's my shit.

My shit is loaded. My shit is loaded for sure. Here's what we got cracking in the arena today. The Grizzlies and league got some devastating news. John Morant is out for the rest of the season with a shoulder injury. We're going to talk about that. The Pacers lost Tyrese Halliburton for a few weeks, and Boston lost the game on some questionable calls.

Did the Celtics get got? Oh, yeah. Yeah. And Stephen A. Smith responded to our very own Rashad McCants after being called out for his opinions on Kobe's goat case. Rashad, you heard what Stephen A. had to say. Now we're going to hear what you had to say. But before we get into all that, as always,

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Monday through Thursday at 1130-ish. We was a little late today. You know, we are a black show. It comes with the territory. But if you can't watch the live show on YouTube, we got audio versions available on Apple, Spotify, wherever you get your podcasts from. All right, so we're going to start this one a little different today. Jonathan Majors is looking to repair his image after some legal situations and has found

strength in his girlfriend, Megan Good. During a recent interview, Majors compared Good to another legendary figure. Through it all, Majors' new girlfriend, actress Megan Good, has remained by his side, even present for her interview. How would you describe your relationship? She's an angel. She's held me down like... I thought I could look like a career. You know? So naturally the internet did what the internet does in these moments.

The comedian Charles Moore dropped one of the better memes in response to the clip. Keep my wife's name out your fucking mouth! Mm, mm-mm-mm. We also got some more heat that popped through. We got that other tweet that we enjoyed. I don't think we got any other. Oh, we do not have it.

You got you a good woman. They fucking up in the back. We are fucking up in the back. So Gil start with you. I'm confused. What you confused about Gil? I didn't even know he watched WNBA. What you mean? He was talking about Coretta. Yeah, Coretta. Coretta Brown from the fever Sir she played for you four years man. That's not where you from. Hmm. Where you from? Jonathan majors, let me check you Did you pay attention to history class? Huh? Did you pay attention to his not pay attention to basketball class he's from wnda baby

he don't play basketball he was born in lompoc california i've never stepped foot in this yeah i mean we've heard about it we never stepped foot in there damn yeah santa barbara county you know coretta coretta brown yes i do no coretta wmb player oh you know coretta down oh but he go she'd be selling the car he grew up in d, though. Cedar Hill High School, Duncanville High School. Around your neck of the woods. Okay. Man. High school, my niece graduated from.

My nephew graduated from Cedar Hill. My mom used to live in Cedar Hill before she moved recently. Okay. I do have a problem with it, though. I do. Name the WNBA player? No, just... He said it. He said it. He said it. He said it. He said it. He said it. He said it. He said it. He said it. He said it. He said it. He said it. He said it. He said it. He said it. He said it. He said it. He said it. He said it. He said it. He said it. He said it. He said it. He said it. He said it. He said it. He said it. He said it. He said it. He said it. He said it. He said it. I do name them WB player. No

He said that in the video With the with the what with the other girl he said in the video he wanted her to be his Coretta Alright, so you tell the white woman Yeah, he won the white one to be Coretta Scott King. Wait, who? Like Martin Luther King? Yeah. Martin Luther the King Jr., girl.

Martin Luther the King. He wanted the white girl to be more like the black man's wife. And then she chased him down the street because you don't tell him no shit like that. I could catch your ass, little boy. And he ran around and he's running. But wait, there's more. You got to be more like Martin Luther King than be asking somebody to be Corella Scott. What kind of Martin Luther King shit is you out here doing, boy?

Maybe he meant Martin Luther Kang. Or he might mean Martin Luther King after that. Yeah, yeah, like I need you to stand by when I'm doing my thing thing over here. I'll be right back, baby. Yeah, I'll be right back. I got to march on'm doing my thing thing over here. I'll be right back, baby. Yeah, I'll be right back. I got to march on down to the telly real quick. I'll be right back.

I mean, that part looked, hey, man. Megan, the problem is this. Why when they get in trouble, they go to the black media to try to get them out? Because they get them out. Boom. Black media? Shit. Every time. Name one. Name one. to the black media to try to get them out? Because they get them out. Boom! Black media?

Shit! Every time. Name one. Name one. R. Kelly got his ass fucked up. Who? R. Kelly. He didn't go back.

He didn't go back. He didn't go back to the black media. Come on, R. Come sit down, Robert. All of them. Robert, come sit down. But Gayle not black media. Gayle King is them. And she got, she black media.

And then he just went to them again. He ain't go to black media. He's black media. Charlamagne them with a 80s ass up got... She black media. And then he just went to them again. He ain't go to black media. That's black media. Charlamagne them with a 80s ass up. That's black media. And all your movies is... Come on, kid. It ain't Boys in the Hood. Let me just say that.

Creed. Creed wasn't a... What was it? Two, three, four, five... It wasn't Boys in the Hood. Okay? It wasn't Tales from the Crypt. It wasn't none of those.

He said... When he hit him with the prison punch, he killed him. His audience... When he hit him with the prison punch... His audience and who he talking to, I can tell you that. You ain't going to be up there sitting here doing this. So yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. You should have came. That motherfucker like, hey, look. What's up, man? I don't know what's up. Shit, man. That's what I'm saying.

I'm telling you, shut the fuck up. You know? You know? You was talking about the fuckers. And then I just ran and this motherfucker chased me like, I thought telling Joey shut the fuck up You know you stop Motherfuckers me like I thought it was the police My face man motherfucker start come on proper as fuck up there, ain't he? Yeah, you know, I was probably My family in my life guilty

Every time you do that Thank you Guilty. Guilty. Guilty. Ah, every time y'all do that, man. After acting. Acting. We think you after acting, man. We know you acting. You an actor. What? You're an actor. Hey, Jonathan, we about to go on.

Three, two, one. Go. All right. She like, corretta, corretta to me. Come on, man. She was just married to a real pastor, boy. Y'all gonna get me started in here. She was married to a real pastor. Here's my follow-up

question for y'all. How important is some good work in troubling times like this? Cap. Not good. Not important. In this situation, you had one, you got in trouble and then ran to another one that quick. Yeah.

Ah, looks bad. No no it just makes him the work he's the work it just looked bad he's the work this he ain't running to the work or from the work he is the work well that's a bar that's too quick when you say we was in love and then oh man just i'm trying to figure out still what happened actually that made it all go down he was mad she didn't show up like coretta because she wiped she wanted to put up she I'm trying to figure out still what happened actually with that made it all go down He was mad. She didn't show up like Coretta cuz she white she wanted to put up She can't put on blackface my nigga what you wanted to do. Okay. She's being herself and you're mad got it Then I guess you didn't eat her mac and cheese and she chased your ass down the goddamn street She's hosin utensils proper. No, you ain't properly. You ain't holding the fork the right way.

You're your etiquette ad, Jonathan. You ordered the right thing. You ordered the right thing. What you doing? The bad part about it is I personally think he used the Cat Williams he used the Cat Williams drama because Cat said

his name and then he gets to do it while the cat Williams can SEO drama can just search engine optimization It can again it can bring it down but something like this look be honest and this goes to a lot of you celebrities out there that we use in PR companies look You can't get in trouble for six months right they your name in the news six straight months of this this this and then you think you can do one interview and clean it all up right you shut

the fuck up for six months to do one interview and then you do it how it look professional right either you fight it during the time or you fight it during the time. If 99% of PR and celebrities do it exactly how you do it and they get cancelled just like you are, try another one. As soon as someone says something, you snap back right there. You go right there.

You go right there. An innocent man will fight. Period. An innocent man fights for his freedom. Like, he fights. There's no, oh, I'm going to let my PR team take care of it. No, your PR team don't know what the fuck happened. They're telling me don't say nothing.

Yeah, don't say nothing. Nah. That motherfucker girl right there, crazier than a motherfucker. She was on crack. Man. I got something to say, God damn it. Yeah, she did. Three lines before. Did y'all blood test it? Y'all didn't? say, God damn it. Yeah, she did three lines before. Did y'all blood test it?

Y'all didn't? Bam, there you go. It was in the system because I was in there doing it with her. I mean, make yourself guilty to make her look reckless. Come on. You got to incriminate yourself. Yeah, you got to incriminate yourself. Well, let's keep this thing moving.

This is a basketball show, so let's move on to a basketball topic. That's why I thought it was Coretta Brown. Because, you know, they did say, you know, that he was ugly and all that shit. It's like, man, he get Megan. I got me a chance with one of them motherfuckers, too. Basketball topic. So speaking of work, DJ Academics recently put a three-time NBA champion on blast for allegedly sliding in his special works DMs. It was Danny Green. He on the the Toronto Raptors yeah and by the way that was the year they won the championship so he's on fire yes so he's thinking any girly hit is gonna be like any girl he's in the NBA niggas be snipers so he's a

to play he's messaging her like whatever that whatever knife go lie I was a little bit disappointed. She's answering. Like, a man should be able to ask my girl certain questions like, yo, hey, you know, how you? Like, hey, you ever been out here? Oh, no, I want to come visit. What? What you tell another man you want to visit where he at?

You with me? Yeah, that's too much. Okay. Now I'll be honest with you. This is where the sucker part comes in. I didn't learn this from Jamaica. I learned this from growing up. You know, half of my childhood I spent in America.

Okay. I learned this from New Jersey. Okay? When I see that shit. You got to be clear. You got to be clear. Yeah, yeah. I can't put no bad state on it.

Hey, so when I seen it, I vaguely remembered because I clicked on even his profile. Yo, he just got married the last month He posted his wife up and everything You know what I said? Well, if you trying to get my bitch, I'm gonna get you a bit so I go a lot I'd be of his girl. I said listen. I just told the truth. I said listen, yo, your husband is trying to get my Swap it out. Let's swap it out Let's swap it out. We can't swap it out. You can't do that. You can't do that. We gotta swap it out. You cannot do that. She ain't believe me too. She didn't believe me too? Of course not. Look at you.

So thoughts on academics trying to do the double dirty Mac. That is not a double dirty Mac. It's only one dirty Mac. That was him. That's Dirty Mac-ing. Academics is Dirty Mac-ing? Yeah, that's Dirty Mac-ing. Okay. What Danny Green did, he just seen a girl online, he slid in her DM, right? He didn't talk

about academics, right, to do it. So academics, the professional way to do it is you just go to his new wife DM and you just hit to his new wife, DM, and you just hit her on some, you know, with some how you doing, boom, boom, boom.

But you're trying to throw dirt on him to make yourself look a little better. That's dirty, mad girl. Rashada, so you concur? It's the new generation, man. They don't understand what the work is. They don't know the definitions. You know, he fucking with the work.

He ain't understand it. He called it his girl. And then said, oh, I'm kind of mad she answered. Nigga, she's from work. She working. That's Danny. That's money. Let me get that.

What's up? Dirty macking. But the young niggas, they get emotional. So when you get emotional, you don't know how to respond. It's called erratic motion. E-motion. You don't know how to control yourself, little nigga. You're just supposed to go get some more work.

You're not supposed to just go interrupt the shit. But Danny fouled, too. Why? Accountability. He just got married. That's his personal problem. That's what I was just saying. He fouled, too.

You just got married. That's his personal problem. That's what I was just saying. He's foul too. You just got married. What you doing? Kaden, your thoughts on the subject. If you have any you would like to share with the group. Proceeding. Nah, you don't do shit like that, bruh. Like, you need like him to beat your ass. See that? He trying to beat his ass. He like, I, see that? Yeah. He trying to beat his ass. He like, I'm gonna beat his ass.

I just beat his ass. No, it ain't me. No, he just ain't. For sure. No, but see, he the nigga to do some shit like that, then somebody see him and put their hands on Benny Sue. Absolutely. See, he a whole ass nigga like that.

Mm-hm. Like, he the type of bitch motherfucker to do some shit like that. Like, when Danny, like, you don't do that, dude. Like that's, whatever your girl was doing, she got caught. Yep, yep. You don't play about that. Yep, you know the name of the game. Like, nah, yeah, your bitch chose him.

Man, pimp game strong over here. Man, pimp game strong over here. Get your pimp game strong, nigga. You know, like you said, shit, you know the name of the game. Your bitch chose me. Can you buy that? See? Like, let's...

I don't rock it. So let's bring it to this couch. Has someone ever tried to Dirty Mac one of your special franchise tag works? What do you mean, Dirty Mac? You got to use it in a right. If someone tried to holler at her. No, I mean dirty dirty Mac. It means you have to throw dirt on

my name. That's what I'm asking you. That's he's weak minded for that. That means he can't get her on her own that he has to make me look bad to get her. So have you ever heard about somebody doing that to you? Oh, it's all time, right? You got it like that. That's that's what people get mad about, right?

Like, as a dude, I'm mad that you are throwing dirt on my name to try to look better, right? Oh, he's out here doing this and doing that so you look attractive. If you got game, you just spit your game. I can't get mad at you for spitting your game because if that's what she wants That's where she goes that has nothing to do with me. I'm not chasing you. Are you doing to the wrong? They get like yeah, you can hear that or worse That's a lot of myself. I said I wish I'm happy but he did it to an NBA dude So maybe a dude ain't gonna do that right but in real cold. We talking real facts and shit here, right?

You do it to the wrong part or the right person. Mm-hmm. He gonna take it all the way there with you All the way. Yeah, but you like no No defense today like I went to his wife. No, no, no I'm just I know the academics ain't no defense of that whole ass nigga. He don't he didn't know This was all new to him. Like the whole, when he found out it was Danny, when he found out it was Danny, it was like. What's new to him?

Being a man? Nah, somebody going after what he thought was his. Being a man? Yeah. He young. He ain't never had that. And think about all the young niggas that he's above. They would never try to come take something that's his.

So this is somebody like, nigga, I'm bigger than you. I'll take whatever I want. Danny didn't do that shit because of him? I know he didn't, but I'm saying he thinking he's untouchable. Between what Danny did and him, his girl, he was irrelevant.

No, for sure. Right? But he don't know. That's what I'm saying. He had no idea this was a part of the game. So he didn't know he was irrelevant.? But he don't know. That's what I'm saying. He had no idea this was a part of the game. So he didn't know he was irrelevant. Yeah, he didn't. He thought he was the hottest shit. He was like, my bitch ain't going to never go fuck over on me with another nigga. So to his defense, he's like, bro, I get that you caught feelings and you did this, but this is how the game go on our side.

When we try to tell these stories about, hey, we sit on the bench, you go to the bathroom, boy, she better be tight with you. She better be Harley Quinn with you, bro. Because if she not, ball boy. Well, how important is it to educate new money on the rules and regulations of the work? It ain't about new money, dog. It's about being a man and doing man shit. It ain't about having money or not having money, bruh. You don't do that. Stand on your square. You don't, it ain't about having money.

We all ain't good. No. But he said he did some sucker shit. Yeah. He said I did some sucker shit. He knows. He knows. He probably knows now.

He probably in real time because I think he felt, he probably felt stupid because what ends up happening is if you let it play. She said, yeah. Oh, she didn't even believe me. She didn't believe me no way. So I was like, oh, check his phone.

Check his phone. He had to take it a step further. You really think he going to let his girl take, man. What's wrong with you? He said, I want to make that nigga pay. Don't ever come in my deal. This ain't YouTube. This is NBA.

I'm going to kill him and I'm going to marry him. Hey, we get another one. But that's what the difference with the young generation is, like, they'll take it that far because they're emotional with the work. Yeah. They'll take it further than that. That's what I'm saying. They'll take it further than that.

Like, you was in my bitch DM, bro. That's my point. Yeah, in my bitch DM, bro. That's my point. Yeah, so. Yeah, man. That's my point. So I understand he never been there. Now he know, like, I could either be the nigga that cross these lines and be the sucker nigga all the time, or I could be on the level of knowing that there are niggas bigger than

me that can take whatever it is that they want. Well, thankfully, we have a show devoted to all things work coming from you, Rashad. Oh, shit. Workshop. Premiering soon where you'll go in depth And all things related to work see Let's keep this thing moving we're gonna keep it shot center today last week during a discussion about Kobe's legacy and why he belongs in The GOAT conversation you called out Stephen a Smith for what you perceived to be him playing with Kobe's name

Mr. Smith saw your video and responded on his show accordingly Somebody hit play All right. Do, do, do, do, do, do. They are fucking up in the back, but our crew works hard. We're getting back into the swing of things. Listen to what Rashad McKenzie had to say. So when I hear Stephen A. going off on these rants about how Kobe Bryant is not this and not that, you didn't have that energy when he was here. Where was that energy when he was alive?

And stop bringing this man who passed to extend your narrative why would why would Kobe be in a conversation for you to kill him off so LeBron can live higher than him it don't make no fucking sense let the man rest let's keep him wherever everyone has him if you got him one you got him to them see we don't need nobody trying to push him down, push him away so somebody else can be elevated. LeBron going to be LeBron. Mike going to be Mike. We've been comparing Kobe, Mike forever. Here comes LeBron.

Okay, join the conversation, my nigga. But don't be trying to diminish my man's name like he wasn't that guy. A couple of things. Rashad McCann's first order of business, respectfully. my man's name like he wasn't that guy. Couple of things. Rashad McCann's first order of business, respectfully, you don't know what the hell you're talking about. You don't have a goddamn clue. Period.

You don't know. So let me educate you. Number one, if you gonna quote me, quote me accurately. The receipts are there. I have never, nor would I ever, diminished the Black Mamba. That's number one. Number two, I didn't have the energy when he was here. Kobe was a friend of mine. I told Kobe to his face when he was alive because I've been calling LeBron number two to Michael Jordan before Kobe passed away, God rest his soul. That is a fact. It is something that we debated about. When Shaquille O'Neal comes on the show

a little bit later on today, he'll confirm that for you. Just ask him because he likes you too. Now, I'm not sitting there coming at you derogatorily as if I got a beef with you, I got a problem with you. I got a problem with you. I don't know you that well, but I got mad respect for you. You are a college basketball player in North Carolina. You won a national championship, okay, in 2005. I saw you against Michigan State. I saw you against Illinois.

I saw you against Villanova. I know who you are and what the hell you can do. Mad respect to you, and I know you know the game. But evidently, you need lessons on how to quote people accurately and not to come across as somebody who's personalizing some kind of comments just because you don't like them I'm not here to agree with you just like you wasn't on Gil on Gilbert Arenas's podcast to agree with me you entitled to your damn opinion I'm entitled to my damn opinion what's the problem why is it that it's hating just because I don't have him as

number two all time? I got Kobe Bryant as arguably the greatest Laker of all time and the second greatest shooting guard in the history of basketball and clearly without question a top 10 player of all time. And you on some other podcast acting like I sullied his name. Come on, bro. Come on, man. Can we talk basketball? You talk it. Somebody asks you who the greatest player is or who's number two or who your top five is and you answer that,

that means you shitting on everybody else? Stop the bullshit, man. Just stop. So as Stephen A. mentioned, he did have Shaq as a guest on the show. Gil, were you supposed to pull up to that? But you were busy doing Gil's Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy. Woof Woof.

Also known as some other podcast. Actually, I was a film man. Post show, Gil. You need your nap. Yeah, I was a film man. You got to be juvenated before you can rejuvenate for this show. But he did have Shaq as a guest on the show and asked his thoughts. And Rashad Shaq was aligned with your views.

I'm thinking Kobe Bryant's top 10 all time, probably top five. What's wrong with me not saying that he's not number two all time in the history of basketball? What's wrong with that, Shaq? We as people, we don't stand on what we stand on. But I have a problem with, you know, what you said. Like, like doesn't matter who the goat is my my guy should be in the conversation Yes, no, but hold on so Rashad was saying is like you guys just throw him out of the conversation So somehow it just went from Mike to LeBron and you just threw my guy out of the conversation His name needs to be in there all the time

And when his name is not in there, that's when people have a problem. There is nothing on earth to question the greatness of Kobe Bryant, but it did help for those first three rings that he had you in your prime to some degree. That's not the point. The point everybody is making is don't leave him out the conversation. I'm not leaving him out the conversation. You are. I always hear Mike and LeBron, and I used to hear Mike and Kobe. Certain people can be in a conversation.

Certain people can't. Before y'all say one and two, you can't leave my guy. So, Rashad, let's see this, sir. The floor is yours. What's your response to Mr. Smith? I accept your apology. Clear as day. You know? I didn't need Shaq to go do that,

but I appreciate my brother Shaq stepping, because I guess it was only two people that it struck a chord with. Out of all the 5,000 players that ever watched Kobe Bryant play, me and Shaq felt some type of way. And that's unfortunate, but I know a lot of people can't say what they really feel when it comes down to a Kobe Bryant play, me and Shaq fell some type of way. And that's unfortunate, but I know a lot of people can't say what they really feel when it comes down to a Kobe Bryant because he's not here no more.

And he didn't really fuck with a lot of people. So a lot of people are not going to come to his defense, but that's my brother in blood. Like that's my mans. So it is kind of personal for me and the family and his children and to hear anything negative come out of anybody's mouth when referring to him when he's when he's passed it should be nothing but positivity because he has people coming after him so it's like if that wasn't the case and Kobe was still here it's free it's fair game it's fair game because Kobe can defend himself.

But if I got to step up and be the guy, the guy no one likes, the guy everybody thinks is this and that, he shouldn't be talking. Well, here I am talking about Kobe, protecting his name and his legacy. Because at the end of the day, you only want positive things to be said about you and your legacy when you're done with the game, when you're done with life. And that's all I was saying. It's like, oh, well, Kobe, he had Shaq for three years. We talking about skill. We're talking about teammates. We talking about when you watch the game of basketball,

you watch them Kobe Bryant highlights. Man, it ain't no way you don't put him beside Michael Jordan. So here's what I'll do for the sake of conversation. Let's start the criteria here. Mike, Kobe will now be out of the conversation. We'll start it with LeBron. We don't even need to mention these two no more. They are that good when it comes to the blueprint of the game.

Without stats and all that other shit, they out. Now, let's start with stats, you start with LeBron, everybody else can fall in fucking line. LeBron is the GOAT. But that's because we're not mentioning these other two niggas no more. They're not even in the conversation. Player 99, player 98.

Cool. Now y'all can have y'all, you know, whoever he paying to say he the best, whatever the case may be. You like him, you like him. He the most biggest IQ guy. All that shit, cool. You won't hear nothing else come from me. Because I'm taking these two guys out of the conversation.

They ain't in it no more. For me. I don't know about anybody else. Because there's a long list of NBA players that say what I say. And agree and feel the way I agree. Because we played. We watched it. We seen it.

Shaq played with Mike and played against Mike before he played with Kobe. Then he won with Kobe and was able to say, shit, damn, man, this dude really is that guy. Now, he might have had some comments that said it LeBron was to go to some point Because the goat of accomplishments does exist So when you're the number one all-time scorer You got to throw some respect on that shit and I agree but skill wise and to play the game wise and what we seen and it's two guys that just I Seen the toughest defense in the world on this dude.

Kobe Bryant created moves because of this nigga's defense was that good. We ain't never seen that shit. He was forced to do shit you could never do. I just want the respect to just be there. I don't think it needs to be any malice or anything like I'm trying to attack Stephen A. I just feel personal when my man is gone.

I got to protect this. I got to protect it. And that's what I'm trying to attack Stephen A. I just feel personal when my man is gone. I got to protect this. I got to protect it. And that's what I'm here for. I stand on business for real. For real. I ain't got to play. I ain't Kobe. I ain't none of that. But bro, this is my bro. That's all I was saying. This is my bro. But thank you for the 12 minutes of

promo. My IG's on fire. I'm looking for an agent, manager, whoever wants to step up. Yeah, man, I do this shit for real. Carry on. So, go debate is subjective. People have their pick. There isn't anything that would change a lot

of people's minds, whether it's MJ, LeBron, Kobe, even Kareem. But Gil, why do players have so much more respect for Kobe and his contribution to the game than fans or media do? Players are in the lion's cage with the lions, right? Media watches, right? So, you know, when you have to guard someone you know 43 48 minutes day in and day out you you you know who's who you know who's a killer right your stats don't mean anything

you know it's not like you take in consideration double teams and triple teams right um you don't none of that factors in it doesn't factor in how high a guy can jump, how fast he is, you know, what type of engine he has, what is he working with, how is he starting his race. Media don't, they don't factor any of that in because if they haven't played, they wouldn't know, you know, that this guy has a, you know, if we're running a 100-yard race, he already at the 60-yard line when we started because, you know, he got this engine. So for this guy to even get close, for this guy to even lose by 10 yards, in a sense, that is the win for us because the one guy had a 60-yard head start, right? So that's what we see as players, right?

That's why when you talk about, when you hear players talk about other players, that's what's respected. Not what the media. We really don't care because y'all are just looking at stats. Y'all don't have no feel for it. Y'all don't understand it. Y'all don't, y'all never sat

in front of that guy and see how hard it is to guard. But the question is this. When does reality kick in when we're having debates, right? Before Michael Jordan, there was someone on top, right? Whoever that was, they got pushed the fuck out. If Kobe's number two, before he was number two, who was number two?

They had to get put in. He had to move somebody out. So it ain't shitting on anyone's name because you don't mention them anymore or they move. Kobe was the next Jordan. He was the next Jordan. He was compared. There was times where he saw, I'm 1A, he's 1B, right? The reason he's not in the GOAT debate anymore is because they have LeBron as the definite

two, right? So if they move Kobe to three in the debate, there's no point even having that conversation because he can't collect stats anymore. So his stats ain't collectible anymore. So whatever his stats are, whatever his resume is, it's stopped. So if someone caught him, that's who gets put into the goat bait, just like when Kobe. Whoever was in front of Kobe and he caught him, they don't talk about three. So Michael would have been pushed out then, correct? If someone caught him. They don't talk about three. So Michael would have been pushed out then.

Correct? If someone caught him. No, no, no. Because Kobe caught him and passed him. So he would have been pushed out. What year did anybody say Kobe was number one? I'm not saying. I'm saying by your metric, what you just said. I just said that. You said when Michael came in, he had to push somebody out. Then here come Kobe.

So who would get pushed out if Kobe comes in? Michael. Number two. That means... No, no. I'm not saying number pushed out if Kobe comes in? Michael. Number two. That means... No, no. Who's number two? No, no, no. I'm not saying number two.

If Kobe comes in as number two... How did he come in? He came in the league as number two? No, man. I'm just saying in the conversation. Okay, but what I'm saying is think about what I'm saying. If Michael Jordan is in the 90s number one, who's number two in the 90s of all time? It doesn't matter.

It does. I'm saying what you just said. It does. So listen to what I'm saying. If this is Jordan, who's number two? Because Kobe ain't in the league yet when Jordan's number one So who's number two that means whatever Kobe's? Okay, so if you don't know so if you don't know will whatever magic what y'all got pushed out right got pushed out by Kobe No, they got pushed out by Mike. No coke Mike was already. He was the number one was number one before Mike

They didn't have one. They didn't have a GOAT. They didn't have a GOAT yet. GOAT, the first GOAT in the whole league. So Will Chamberlain wasn't. They didn't have. Bill Russell wasn't. They didn't have no GOAT. Nobody.

Kareem wasn't because Kareem led the league in all-time points. They didn't have a GOAT. They didn't have a GOAT. Why you think Kareem was better? But that ain't what Isaiah Thomas said. So what you're saying don't have no merit because Isaiah Thomas said, Captain, when he walked in the room we bow who? Isaiah Thomas said it that's one person. They don't matter about one person. He said we all came down. That's cap

That's cap when he came in that's big cap So when big caps stopped it come in magic and bird They didn't get the same kind of bravado, but then might comes in might gets the bravado Okay, here comes Kobe now you said you just said if Jordan's in front cap a second But you said the collectible stats because LeBron is still collecting stats Mike's not collecting stats no more So how is it that you say? Okay, because Kobe's not collecting stats no more We can push him out because here's LeBron, but Mike ain't been collecting sets since fucking 2002. And who passed him?

Kobe Bryant passed him. When? What do you mean when? When he passed Michael Jordan in the scoring list. Do you follow basketball? Yeah, so the scoring list. Okay. What are you talking about?

He passed him. In the scoring list. That didn't put him in front of Michael Jordan of all time. Oh my gosh. So how does LeBron James get in front of Kobe Bryant all the time? Because his metrics said he was a better player so far. Excuse me? You talking stats?

You just said we're not talking stats. You just said we're not talking stats, Gilbert. How long was LeBron the number two? Here we go. 2015, 14? They done had him in there, what, 2014, 15 as the number two? Here we go. 2015? 14? They didn't have him in there. What, 2014? 15 as the second best? Mm-mm. Right? Never.

Right now it's 50-50 on who's number one. Never. That's the problem. Right now, when you hit LeBron James, who is the number one player ever? It's a 50-50 thing. Let me just smoke this conversation. That means whoever's third, there's no point of... The only LeBron can James can be mentioned in this conversation is with stats Period so if you don't bring LeBron James stats in the play

No NBA player is considering him and his body of work a skill set in any at close to Michael George Michael Jordan or Kobe Bryant because the skill sets are different. Now, you talk about stats, that's when you got to bring LeBron in because of the stats. But players don't do that. Skill set? What do you mean skill set? How he looked playing the game? Yeah. How he looked playing the game? No, nigga, footwork.

The shit you said in the interview. Do I need to post what you said? Do you want me to play what you said in the interview about Kobe Bryant being better than LeBron James? You said it. Michael Jordan was sexy when he did. Kobe followed suit. LeBron James is like a Hummer.

He don't have the sexiest game, right? So if you're going off of how fine the girl looks, then yes, Kobe is the second finest to Michael Jordan. But is that all you're going off of? How sexy it looked when he played? So, Kenya, I want to... That's what I'm asking. Like, what...

Like, is that what you consider Michael Jordan? Whatever you consider Michael Jordan to be, Kobe's in the same breath. He was. So then how can he be skipped by anybody else? He was. If they're breathing the same air. He was. How can he be skipped by anybody else? He was. If they're breathing the same air.

He was. He was. Kenya, I want to get your thoughts on this subject. I've seen you over here. I'm enjoying the conversation just like everybody in the chat. But like Rashad said, you got the opportunity to guard Kobe. Do you feel like his name belongs in that go combo? It does.

But it's one single solitary thing that, because the question that you asked was, why do the players look at Kobe different than the media? Yeah. Right? Media and fans. Media and fans.

When it comes to certain things and certain players, people have memory like an elephant, right? With no controversy on Kobe's book, he'll still be in the conversation. People try to use that when they're having a debate, unfortunately. Yes. Right? If we're calling spade, spade. Not us. Oh, I don't understand. Not players.

Mm-hmm. Media and fans. Yep. Is what I'm saying. Mm-hmm. So the question that he asked was, so I'm just answering the question that you asked. And they can continue their fucking debate. I'm enjoying it.

But I think it's that, that people try to put into the narrative of it when it comes to certain conversations behind closed doors, right? They're not going to mention it to the masses, but behind closed doors when we? They're not gonna mention it to the masses, but behind closed doors when we're having these conversations. But what about? Mm-hmm.

And then it's like, the room gets silent. Cause it's moving to goal post. So now, so, but for us, for me, Kobe has never been out of the best basketball player of all time debate. Never. Because I played against him. I had guard.

Badass man. The ball in his hand. Competitive as they come. Five rings. All of it. Because he had Shaq. He got five rings, man. And he is who he is.

Mm-hmm. Through our generation of playing, my 15 years of playing basketball, Kobe Bryant was the best basketball player in the National Basketball Association. Mm-hmm. Without fucking question. Damn, man. Right? So for me. High five. High five, Ken. Damn, man. Right? So for me...

High five, Ken. God damn it. Right, for me, he always has been here. Right? I look at him and... So there's always going to be a debate.

Everything is subjective to everybody's opinion. Everybody has an opinion about it. So respect everybody's opinion about it. That's all. I'm like, because it's- Where do you rank them? I don't rank, I don't have, I don't care to be honest with you, Gil.

Okay, but the- I look at it in generations, bruh. The way I look at basketball, I look at it in generational, right? Because there was a dominant, there was one dominant basketball player in every generation of basketball that the league knew when they put them uniform on, he the one.

Right? That's the way I look at it. Because when you don't, I look, I hear Michael Jordan when they ask him about it. Because when you don't, I look, I hear Michael Jordan when they ask him about it. It's shitting on the people that played before him if they consider him this.

And this is coming from the man himself. Right? And I think about that. I'm not going to say that Kareem wasn't great when he was. I'm not going to say Wilton wasn't the greatest at his time. I'm not going to say Kareem wasn't great when he was I'm not gonna say what wasn't the greatest at his child I'm not gonna say that because they were Doing when Michael Jordan played absolutely was the best thing smoking. Yes When Kobe played absolutely they held the torch

LeBron his hope has held the torch right now. So that's just what I think I Don't have a best basketball. Am I a Michael Jordan fan? Absolutely. But I didn't grow up a Michael Jordan fan like everybody else. If you ask me, people don't put Isaiah Thomas as one of the best. I fucking admire Isaiah Thomas for what he did for the game at the size he was and what he did for the game at the size. He wasn't what he did. Thanks

So I look at basketball in a different light than everybody else I'm not in the putting people here and here and and saying who know I Don't just it's the same thing with basketball the same thing with music It's the same thing who's the best quarterback of all time? Who's the best wide receiver who's the best one all this shit is subject to everybody's opinion? Yeah And everybody's entitled to that depend opinion, right? So let's It's

Appreciate people for what they've done for the sport that we care so much about and their craft if they put out there While they're doing it I get that Just where I look at but there is ranking and it's just natural But but at the end of the day when we say goat debate, right? Whoever's three four and five you're not in the debate anymore. So when did so let's let's look up the term So when did everybody so ll started the term go? No, it's a woman. But so what I'm so what year was that? 90 so 1990 mm-hmm, right is when people the acronym greatest of all time started anyone. Yep

So the people that played, the people that before 1990 wasn't GOATs in there? Nope. Why not? Because it wasn't a term? Because it didn't say it. Because it wasn't a term yet? Because the league started in 78 when all the black people emerged. So they didn't really look at the league before that.

So let me ask you this. Julius Irvin wasn't considered an NBA? Hold on, let me ask you this, Gilbert. Gilbert, let me ask you this. Oh my God, Julius Irvin. Julius Irvin wasn't considered the best in the NBA. Hold on, let me ask you this, Gilbert. Gilbert, let me ask you this. No. So when they started throwing this word gentrification out and shit like that, had that not been going on? Moving people out of neighborhoods so other people could-

Great point, great point. So it's the same fucking shit, dog. Great point. They was doing it before then just because somebody put a fucking tag on it. Now people start using that. That's it. Okay, but at the end of the day- So those people were great in their own respective though

But at the end of the day when the NBA merged in both parties the black culture and the white culture merged That's when they actually started figuring out who is the best talent in the NBA and because the We have the best But they're saying we have the best when a B is like not we have the best so when they merged it That's when the time started really ticking and there was only one and so with when they merged who was the best player So he was the best player. Yes, Irving magic Julius so who was the best player when they magic so there was no one best no No, so don't know not one guy

He did not want to say it cuz he don't want to be wrong. I do not want to be wrong. I've already asked if Clyde Drex was in all of that. Who was in all of that? So Clyde was there when they merged? No. Clyde was around when they merged? No. Clyde was around when they merged?

83. Clyde was around when they merged? So the top ten. So you brought Clyde Drex in this fucking conversation. In 83. I said, when was the GOAT name when when you was in the league in 89 Who was the who did I say with the best part? He said everyone had their favorites He said people thought dr. J my god thought wills people thought 89 89

He said Russell he said magic had a claim for it, but he said there was no king yet in 89 He said there was yes. He said there was Michael Jordan was in 89 considered the best so So you said 89 right eight so there the next year the term is the term go so it's fuck out But that's beside the point. Come on man Here is the point People say they need to be in the GOAT debate, right? The GOAT debate. The GOAT debate can only be the top two players.

Whoever is 3, 4, 5, you are not actually in a debate. You're not in a race anymore. That's just life. If we say, who's life? Who's life? You, that's not a's just life and if we say who's the who's life who's life so that's not a part of my life i don't look at that shit like that so let me go back to my statement that's why i don't participate but i think y'all that's why i said that's why i was sitting here enjoying the fucking conversation okay because i don't okay that's you i don't think that but that's the light well that's fine since we're't think that but that's the light water

Since we're all saying I appreciate everybody's world sin geared one two three four five. I'm saying logistically Three four five you're not in the debate anymore. If you're not playing anymore. You're not in this debate Oh They play into all of them haven't been playing the. The only nigga still playing is LeBron, bro. How could you even use that as a metric to do? LeBron, Curry, what's the name? So until LeBron takes over two or one, right? If whoever's one and two, you guys are in the debate till someone comes to affect that.

That affection is LeBron. So LeBron came in and affected it So that means if they move Kobe to three he is no longer part of the boat So would it be one because he Mike was out before Kobe you have to beat you have to beat his resume still We have to be why you talk about that again if I run a chair we not Who's saying boat has been out win. How long? How long has Hussain Bolt been out? Anybody beat his, his, so they're not the fastest ever. We're not talking about his stats. He's still the king.

We've never seen anybody that fast. He's still the king. So whoever is second, those are two in the GOAT debate. Third, fuck off. Who was the best player you ever seen play the game, Gilbert? Kobe. So does that not mean greatest of all time? No, it doesn't mean greatest of all time. Okay.

How does it mean greatest of all time? Damn, I wish I had to pee right now. Heard his Achilles, he didn't get to finish his resume the way he did. There's a dude that's still playing 20-something years. But he was still the best player you've ever seen play the game. Yes, yes. God, so that don't mean that he's the greatest. His resume stopped.

So you're talking about stats again. His resume. His resume. Is it resume stats? His resume. Is it resume stats? So, give me. His resume.

There's some guys. There's T-Mac. Is T-Mac in the Hall of Fame? Yes, he was a Hall of Fame player. Why? Top fucking 10 talent ever. But he's not in there because he doesn't have the resume to get Into conversation. No, he'll have a resume to get in all the same not the colors

I mean the conversation of whatever right he ain't like this You still got to do what just cuz you look good doing it as Carl greatness We put greatness he back in the Hall of Fame because we never seen such talent like that at such a young age. Well, you said T-Mac. No, I'm just saying he said the greatest conversation of all time. I'm just picking holes. Is it talent or is it stats? That's what I want to know.

This is my argument. When Shaquille and you say you have to put him in the GOAT debate, right? My question is, where do you have him right now? Right? If you have him two or one, yes, he's in the GOAT debate. If you have him three, he can't be in the GOAT debate no more. Because number two, if that's LeBron, he's still active. So if he's two, then there's no more stats for Kobe. Yeah, you can raise your hand mr

Martin, of course. Mm-hmm. So Was it only Kobe or did everybody think that it was one and one B? When period only Kobe said one him who did you think the people? Did you think that when when he said it? Might just add him too. Huh? I just had him too. Okay. I had him too.

So I have a question. I have a question. Okay. If someone's considered the next Michael Jackson, right? Like Chris Brown. Say Chris Brown. Uh-huh. Next Michael Jackson. I'm glad you did that.

Yes. Right? I'm glad you did that, yes. Right? I'm glad you did that. So in the conversation, say, if you're considered the next greatest of all time, it puts you in the conversation because you're the next, right? Now, if you start to build up your resume to match that, that's why they say 1A, 1B. Because I can show you highlights of them making the same moves. Them doing the same things. So logically it wouldn't make any sense to say,

this guy is number one, this guy's on his heels because he's part two. He did the same thing. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. No. So you got... Oh, he's just going to be duped. You got... No, no, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. No, this is... No. So you got... Oh, he's just going to be taxing to us. You got... No, no, no.

You got MJ and then you got Chris Brown. And then you forget about the motherfucker by the name of Drake. Has he surpassed Chris Brown? What? Did you just bring Drake into conversation with Michael Jackson? No. Not with Michael Jackson. With who?

He's number one, right? You said Chris Brown was the next. What are we talking about here? Music or what are we talking about? Talent? Who's the bigger artist overall? Talent? Yes. We're talking about talent. Talent. That's what we're talking about. That's what I'm saying. We're talking about talent. We need to have clarification in this conversation.

I thought you was going somewhere else. Are we talking about talent or are we talking about art? we're talking about artists right now Who's bigger? Oh? Joe no, I guess part of all could be the biggest artists of all time like but So he sir pass no he does no parent Michael Jackson how he surpassed him how? Easy how numbers don't lie numbs stats again Stat man, stat man, yeah that's me. The same niggas say stat don't matter, yeah that's me.

He can't even help it. He can't even help it, guys. So what is your argument for, what is your argument? Talent. Talent. The most talented guy since he was five years old, Michael Jackson. Chris Brown came in and started mimicking that shit. He was like, hey man, he could be just as talented as Michael Jackson Damn same with Kobe man, Michael Jordan did all this man. That shit was fly fuck So then we see another nigga come in and do the same fly shit

We like we didn't think we would ever see anyone come in and be like Michael Jordan and then here come this young kid named Kobe Bean Bryant doing the same shit. It's like, yo, that's scary hours. And then some of us say, he elevated that shit. Wait, wait, wait, wait. He turned that shit to a whole nother level. Hold on. So he had more talent. So did he have more natural talent than Vince Carter? Who?

Kobe. No. Okay. Then your argument just shut the fuck up. Can we move on? Because that means he's not the second best most talented I guess I guess you just voted you win Vince Carter you and so move We you and he's we gotta go to what now cuz and Vince Carter's number three. I mean the bronze of a fire

No, you can't do that cuz Kobe just worked in ah I know but he's using talent as it's's like you know like Kyrie's the best Dribbler ever we all know y'all look we all agreed the other day that Vince Carter Arguably could be the most talented guy we've ever seen he just didn't reach his abilities Okay, we've already said that or that knocked out your pull. No it didn't know it didn't Kobe being a second Oh, it didn't the player ever no no No, cuz you still consider Michael Jordan the best. Best player ever.

I didn't say nothing about talent. You use talent because you don't. What's the difference between player and talent? You use talent. What's the difference between player and talent? You use talent so you don't use stats. Because we don't use stats. You don't want to use stats, so you use talent, and then you just got contradicted on talent.

How? Because there's another motherfucker that's more talented than both of them. But you just argued. He's not in the conversation. You just argued. He's not in the conversation. You just argued. Because if he's in the conversation, it's going Vince, Jordan, Kobe.

So then he's out of that conversation again. However you want to do this. Speaker box up. Your speaker box is up. We all here. You got to yell. You got to yell. We right here, man.

Okay, how about this? Which direction do you want to go? Do you want to go stats or do you want to go talent? You only go stats picture you just said that your fans all wait the fans in the media go stats And here you go using stats pick your lane you can use this talent Or this or your body of work pick one how you look doing it or everything you did which lane do you want to go in? It's LeBron any conversation. Yeah, hey, you know if LeBron in the conversation, you know, LeBron in the conversation Oh, whatever the pin don't know is he? That was it over

We're on venting cuz we can't bring LeBron in what you bring Vince in cuz you can't bring LeBron in you said he's the second We shut it down. No, because that still puts him at three. Ah! What about... Ah! What did you say about three? What did you say about three? If you're three, you're not in a conversation.

So let's shut it down then. But it means your guy ain't in a conversation no more. Let's just shut it down. What about Bob Cousy? Of course. You don't want to go down one of those lanes because they eat to the same thing. Let's shut it down.

You don't want to use body of work. You don't want to use natural talent. those lanes Let's show you don't want to use body of work You don't want to use natural talent y'all ever seen the other guys cuz was he telling them more than didn't been tracing good The other guys easy that we can I can what? tune of the tune of story and other guys Mark Wahlberg and Will Ferrell that didn't go the way He don't want to use the stats right so he wants to jump to say this is the best cuz of the talent then I said Whoa talent. Yeah. Oh, I got Vince Carter. I got Trace. I'm a greedy right back more talented But they don't have the body of work Kobe does

Right. So when you were the best player you ever seen play girl the best player you've ever seen play, Gil? The best player I've ever seen play is Kobe. Okay, that's all we want to know. All right, well, let's keep this moving. Another spirited discussion on Gil's arena.

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In my weight room, for inspiration, I got Kobe, Jordan, LeBron. Y'all know who my top three is. I got Kobe Jordan LeBron Mm-hmm So y'all know who my top three is. I thought you have you in there, but I know who my top three in that order Jordan LeBron

Kobe Magic Shaq. Okay, so you're saying though that he's mad LeBron He's saying he's a LeBron. He's team LeBron. But they can't ever get in that GOAT discussion. Like, I couldn't make a compelling argument for Magic or Kobe or Shaq. How? That was my whole thing, right? My whole thing is if level one is the top level, right?

Level two, three, four, five, right? If five is five and he's retired, how can he move up to four to three? He can't. He can't move. He's there, right? Only thing that can happen is someone jumping and moves him down, right?

Four, you only can move down. So if there's a guy that's sitting there playing still, the guy that everyone has number two, he's still playing. So three, four, and five is irrelevant. The only thing that can happen is Kevin Durant can come along, Steph Curry can come along,

and move whoever's three, four, five down. With their stats, right? With their stats and their accomplishment, their whole body. Not with their talent. Not with what we see. We already seen what we're going to see from them, so they got to accumulate stats

to be a part of the conversation. Kobe Bryant does not. Okay, so where are you ranking talent? Number two. So he's more talented than Vince Carter and Michael Jordan? Number two. Vince Carter and Michael Jordan. Just say, yeah, he's more talented than them.

Number two. I just named you two people. Is he more talented than those two people? He's more talented than Tracy McGrady. He's more talented than Tracy more talented than Michael Jordan Okay, how about Tracy McGrady? Yes Okay, Denise to in your mind. Okay. Let's keep this thing moving back to a contemporary topic Sad news for the Grizzlies as John Moran will miss the rest of the season after undergoing surgery for a torn labrum in his shoulder

according to the Grizzlies, Jha suffered a subluxation of his right shoulder on Saturday. And after ongoing soreness and instability, Jha had an MRI that revealed underlying labral tear. On Monday night, Jha tweeted the following. He said, damn, dog. That's how we feel, Jha. Damn, dog.

Damn, dog. That's what it feels like, too. Like, damn, dog. I can't catch a break what I don't know what the hell a subluxation is But that's what they were saying. They were trying to use those Square terminology to throw us off but job was averaging 25 points 8 of 6 6 rebounds in nine games this season The Grizzlies were 6 and 3 with John the floor 7 and 20 without job. So I just want to get y'all thoughts on Ja being out for the rest of the season. It's been a tough stretch for Ja, but we know he will bounce back.

Kenny, we'll start with you. A damn show ain't making the playoffs now. Fuck. You fucking knew that shit. You were right. You were right. I'm showing making the playoffs now No, but it's unfortunate somebody go down because of injury I just came up with a wild ass theory when you were reading it yeah It probably is an injury there. Probably not as bad as the media is making it seem. They're using the big words,

and people got to go get the fucking dictionary. I see what the fuck it is, right? I take a top three pick this year. Top four pick this year. Somebody to go with him. You know what? Yeah, it's bothering you a little bit. Hey, K.

What you saying over there, K? What you saying? What Gil always say, the whole Magic Johnson shit. Yep. Ooh. Because they need it. The whole Magic Johnson. They need it badly. Back to what we were saying, right? They saw what they had without it. Yep. Ooh. And because they need it. The whole Magic Johnson. They need it badly. Back to what we were saying, right? They saw what they had without it.

Yeah. Crazy. Ah, we saw it over this month. You know what? I can put something on it. Real talk. I can put something on it. Coming in that draft. Yeah, shit. We can fuck around and get the one.

Yeah, we going. Yeah. Damn. You know how to, Pilgrim. Jam Jam, what you say, hurt again? Uh, I need you to sit down a little, yo. I get the one Yeah, we gonna Jam Jam, what you say hurt again? I need you to sit down. Oh, yeah. Yeah, we can only sit one star down here Yeah, you yeah Sorry, I'm just I just why you were reading that shit I thought it we talked about and even even if you know job would have dominated this season They would have likely finished 9th or 10th seed. Yeah, but who wants that? Exactly. You mentioned, would it be worth it to even get that pick?

If there was an issue, hey, take care of it now. Season's cooked anyway. Gear back up. We'll see your ass in 2024, 2025. Why they got that bootleg-ass sling on him, though, is what I want to know. But go ahead. This is called karma.

Not for Ja Morant. This is called karma. Not for John Morant. This is called karma for the league. Uh-huh. How many games he missed without pay? 25. 25. 25 without pay. He got about 50 with pay.

He got 50 with pay. He can just sit at home and enjoy. Damn. Y'all two. Them two. Hey. Back to back? Yeah. Being that motherfucker like, yeah. But I mean I hope it's really not the labrum. That is a tough injury.

He has to be careful with it. Karan had the labrum tear here. IT had the labrum tear here. Foltz had the labrum tear in the shoulder. That's what fucked this shot up. People think, oh, man, he's... No. Labrum is the shoulder. Inside the joint. I'm just making sure oh man. He's no labor miss the shoulder inside the joint Yeah, I'm sorry sure so I got a labrum, but he might have had no no no library labor. You have in hip two

Okay, right so Yeah, folks had that and when they went in and check yeah, they tightened the labrum too tight and it kind of you're right Yo, dr. Gil like that is like the baseball move guess what? What he do ain't predicated on shooting that bitch. I can tell you that shit right now. I know, but... Hey, I hear you.

I hear you, but... Motherfucker can't shoot. Back up! Back up! Yeah, it would be that. He coming here! He backing up. You saw what he do, motherfucker.

Go drop that motherfucker right in front of you. And... Real shit. As long as I can get that bitch to hear. No. He coming in! He backing up. You saw what he do, motherfucker. Go drop that motherfucker right in front of you. Boop! And, ah, bitch! Listen, as long as I can get that bitch to here. No. You see, whether he had to do this. The reason he had to do this, he had to, like, so if he just put it up, it'd hitch here. Yep.

So he had to get it out of the hitch, ah, and then go. Uncomfortable shit. Yeah. Yep. I had the AC joint, so I already know. I had it in college. You had the yeah yeah I had the AC joint so I already know I had it in college yeah yeah I had the AC oh so the AC is like the little bone right at the top okay and my shit was spraying so every time I went up you could feel it so they had to attach this thing I had a harness that was wearing with this too strong rubber band thing so it could slowly control how far you went up

Right, so I could if I went back here. I was fucked so it stopped right here So it's like little things that I know like that that that harness holds it there, so it don't hurt, but he got a labor That's you know They gotta go repair it so they tighten it too tight. That's it. Oh, yeah. Yeah, like this you lose that motion for sure That's what happened to um, our guy shake cotton Oh, yeah, the shoulder shit. He had the shoulder. He had the shoulder tear and they rehabbed it bad He couldn't get his hand. No here. So that means when he had cuz he was a shooter

So when he shot think if the only your arm go here, how you gonna shoot the ball? So he had to jump all the way back. Oh, hell no. So then I remember watching, like, one year he was killing everybody. Next year, he can't shoot no more. Back up! He was still coming in there dunking on everybody. So it didn't really matter.

I got seven bodies down there. Shout out to Shane. His brother James, too, played in the league for a little bit at Long Beach State in the Cotton family. So you guys said blessing in disguise from the standpoint. Of course, you never want to see Ja hurt, injured, or miss being out there on the court as much. We all love watching them play.

But Grizzlies weren't going to make the playoffs, by and large, anyway. Now they get an opportunity to potentially increase that draft stock with the first-round pick that they own. They're going to try to prove us wrong, though. I don't think they're going to lay down. I don't think they're going to lay down. Shit me. I think they're going to lay down. Boy, they got their booty in the air right now.

Boy, they got their ass in the air. We came out here, yeah, we played. I played against Shayna in high school. Oh, you did? Yeah, we came out here and put foot to ass. 96? 96, 97? 95, 96.

Yeah. Summer going into my senior year, we came out. Texas boys came out here and put foot to ass out at Long Beach in the Pyramid. Okay. Was Jelani Gardner playing? Him, but the kid went on the little crazy guard. Kenny Brunner? Kenny Brunner.

Kenny, yeah, Saturday. They were teammates. Oh, yeah. That was the best matchup, high school matchup, that was the best matchup. Kenny Brununa versus Baron Davis Hmm my dad when I I didn't even really like was in a basketball yet And he was like yeah, you want to get in basketball Let me go show you some two-player cuz he's he loves nice for basketball and we went there and I'm seeing you know

Kenny Bruna sitting there dancing at the top doing all this they try to travel me squeezing through it and I'm just like yo This is crazy. Yeah, I can't play And then the following year Baron Davis all six what is six to coming down the lane allow okay? Yeah, he's number one now high school Baron Davis. I was a sight to behold from ninth grade on yeah He had a little injury in tenth grade, but even ninth grade law plays out of bounds Yeah, let's go six to just The handle let's talk about another injury that the league is going to have to try to overcome. Pacers' burgeoning superstar guard Tyrese Halliburton

is going to be out for at least the next few weeks after suffering a hamstring injury during a game against the Celtics Monday. We've got some video of the play. Driving to the bucket. He did the splits. Halliburton slipped on the court in the second quarter. Had to be carried

to the locker room by his teammates. In MRI 2, they revealed that Hallie suffered a grade 1 left hamstring strain. Will be reevaluated in a few weeks. The Pacers believe that Halliburton avoided a serious injury though, which is good news for the team and the league because that man is out there cooking right now.

Kenyon, you saw the play. What are your thoughts on Halliburton suffering the injury and having to be carried off the court? Yeah, no, that's unfortunate, the way he's terrorizing the league right now. Team's going to miss him. League missing, league going missing, of course. Yeah, no, he's a badass man. I appreciate the way he take care of the ball.

Hell of a player. But, but, you got to get carried off, dude. It's a booty hurt. It's a strain. Like, I'm just, I don't never want, just the image of like, dude. Get up. We guards, man. We like puffy and everything.

We like puffy ass. The Dave Chappelle. Come get me. Come get me. Big man, what's up? Like we like puffy in every you know, we like puppy Like all of them if you came out here tore and all that cool ain't got shit to say at all Whatsoever just worse than a string can you shut the fuck up? So you're saying your generation would have moved a little any general just strangers people yeah Yeah, I'm not gonna have that image out there. Nobody carrying me off Don't carry you off But since the fence he didn't know what was wrong.

Right, right. Scared as hell. Scared as a motherfucker, but... I just go back... It's crazy because we look at that stuff too. I just... The fucking Paul Pierce thing going out in the fucking wheelchair. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You come back and score 25.

It's duty, baby! Like, I'm... Wait, what happened? Like... You don't remember that, Paul? They had to use the facilities and they put him in the wheelchair? He got hurt in the game and he went out in the wheelchair. And he came back, yeah, but now he say he had to whatever. But, see, our generation, so we just go back to talk about our guy. Right?

Go back to talk about being. Mm-hmm. You can't let somebody have that injury and when it happen, the fuck off me. I'm going to walk there. It might take me a minute. I'm going to walk back.

I'm going to shoot my two free throws. I know I can't come back in the game. This is... Just think about this. Mentality. He knew what had happened. Rules are, you have to shoot

the two free throws or you can't come back in the game. He knew like hell he didn't have to come back in the game. But the mentality, like what people think

about him and all that. Yes. And I walked back to the fucking locker room from where the Achilles injury. Like, no. So to your question our generation I go back to that guy and other people with certain injuries that end up being bad but you've seen people walk off and you've seen people do things and put

back in place when it's yeah but you people don't but that but people don't realize like when you're when you're sitting in sports itself right everyone's looking for a weakness yeah yeah everyone's looking for we want to see you felt okay oh he like look at him right you know like how we do anthony davis right you know um but that's just our that's just sports right we're looking for a weakness so yes, you know What the fuck is over this team may try to put his head under the towel with him though like are you okay? Right do like what the fuck is One that's a Really care about that's some young guard shit I know I want to do no more damage

Hamstring strain right? It's a grade one, too. Yeah. So that's like what? Are they saying the timetable right now? They said it'll be reevaluated in two weeks. We don't really know what that means. But as hoopers, that's an injury that you guys have dealt with before, or similar injuries.

How tough are hamstring injuries to deal with? Because it seems like you can't do conditioning. That's one of those injuries where you got to just wait it out. And if you come back too early, you got the potential of doing even more damage. Yeah. You're going to have to sit for a minute. You're going to make sure that thing... Well, like I said, I was an old fuck when I tore mine.

You tore your hand? Game two, first big three. Yeah. You know, I'm an explosive jumper. I was training my ass off working to get ready to go play. I lunged at the ball. I didn't even jump.

I didn't have to box nobody out. I didn't, like, explode to go get the ball. The ball came off the rim. I just, like, barely left my feet to go get the ball, dog. I just... Heard it pop? I was, no, I felt, I i was like what the fuck so i had never hurt my hamstring in college to pro nothing ever so i didn't know what had happened so i go to the

side and i'm trying to stretch it out not knowing i'm just making it worse and i'm over there trying i go back out there and try to play not knowing dude man i went back out there it's a clip the ball came towards me and i just i tried to go there was a seat right up under the basket the big i went and sat down dog i was like oh man different i walked back to but yes man so i was out for it i missed i missed the whole job to the end yeah yeah. I sued up for the championship game. But other than that, I missed the whole fucking, but still, that hamstring shit. And then my dumb ass,

I went on vacation with the family to Jamaica, right? I felt good. I thought some kids wanted to go swim with the dolphins. What my dumb ass do? Get in the water. Back of that dolphin, they get kicked. Oh, I let go. Let's y'all in the middle.

I would pay a considerable amount of money to watch you ride a dolphin in Jamaica. I'm just going to be honest. The visual of Kenya on a dolphin. I let go. Nah, Jack. I can walk back to this. I can stand up most bodies. Yeah. nah Jack I can walk back to this you know I can stand up most body yeah um I popped my hamstring working out for the Bobcats for the draft me Julius Hodge

Ray Felton and Darren Williams who was doing the it was a 40 yeah so 40 they had us do the 49th quarter quarter. No, it's a three-quarter court sprint you had to do the three-quarter court sprint and Fast as I can and pow I'm gonna fuck it popped turn black and blue right away Mm-hmm black and blue right away. I ain't even like by the time I got to the training room. They was like, oh shit So I didn't get to train with no other teams and none of that and it took me from that point up until Training camp that was June June to October. I was out

Hey, cuz I literally popped that shit and it ain't no joke cuz you're like you said you can't do nothing You can't even get massages on it is sensitive as fuck. Can't sleep or you can't do nothing you can't even get massages on it is sensitive as fuck can't sleep Oh, you can't do nothing nothing Nothing no strengthening on none of that you got literally make it all the hill So how the burn got off easy because it's not a grade three. I had a grade three Yeah, I was an athlete, I didn't have those injuries. Yeah, absolutely. When I was an athlete, I didn't have those injuries.

He was a rookie coming in. He didn't know what being an athlete was. When I was, yeah, never. I ran track, so, you know, with track is always worrying about your hamstrings and your shins, making sure you don't get shin splints. So I always did exercise for those, so I never actually... Mine was hip flexors and groins.

So thankfully Halliburton avoided serious injury, but we do have the All-Star Game coming up next month in Indianapolis. How much does this hurt the league selling the All-Star Game in India if Halliburton is unavailable to play in the game? Say it again now. How much does this hurt the league selling the All-Star game in India if Halliburton is unavailable to play in the game? Say it again now.

How much does this hurt the NBA trying to sell the All-Star game in any... Say it again now. Indianapolis. No, no, no, you got to say what you said before. Before that. What? You said before that. How much does this hurt the league trying to sell it if Halliburton is unavailable?

Minimally? Tyler Burns is a superstar. Not at all. Listen, people were reluctant before he got here to go to the NBA. You said the NBA, right? I'm just... You said the NBA, right? With a full sentence.

You said it. You said it. I'm just letting you know. We're going to blame you, not the team back there. You're the one who said that shit. NBA, right? You could have fixed that sentence, Joe. You could have altered that.

Absolutely. Hey, hey, hey, hey. People. It moves on. They're never not worried. Well, we do want to see Tyrese play against the hometown Indiana crowd in addition to. I know one person that's over there praying. That Brunson.

Ooh, come on, stay out, stay out, stay out. Stay out. Yeah. I know I was. You don't think he's buzzing over there like, yeah. You don out You think you make it in there anyway No, the reason is no no no It's the other people ain't gonna do it ain't got y'all remember they'd be doing that like for on the best team Yeah, they got maybe pulling they gonna pull white They'll pull white before Brunswick. It ain't got nothing to do it. It ain't got nothing

White I'm just the way he's playing. He should be all-star. I'm just letting you know, bro It's where that league shit is man. That's point I'm just a maybe as a body as a body be pulling maybe doing that shit, man That's the only thing that's why I said, let me see your votes, man Let me see your votes man, cuz I know there was his 12 didn't get in You go on Brunson over Dame right now, right? Mm-hmm. I would say yes, but if I'm the league and I'm trying to say yes I think Bruce is playing better than

He's playing he's playing good basketball right now But I also know but I put the caveat that I understand how the league work they managing 25 if we just forget about Damage, I'm not just a kid. This is no second day bronson over maxi And sound they don't put brussel over maxi Huh? Brunson's average 25 so that all of them are averaging the same amount of progress. It's going to go down to the end then. Because I think all the guards are really on the west. Max is going to get in. It's going to be tough.

Max is getting in. Ain't no point with Miami. Ain't no point with Boston. That's what I said. Ain't no point with Boston, but they'll pull a guard. What is Jimmy Butler? Forward. They got him with a small forward?? Yeah, it's forward They got mr. Small for yeah, and there's more for category I'm saying so if you look at the East and you look at all the guards like Brunson should be one to a year

Trajan doesn't it he been he been snubbed so much. That's what they be did. Yeah, they gonna look at it like Oh trait Yeah, we usually snub him We all did we we usually yeah you Booker yeah, we usually get here me You should get him. He's normal to this. He'll be all right. He'll be all right. We'll give him a couple extra calls in the playoffs. Let's talk a little bit about that Pacers-Celtics game last night. Pacers bounced back after losing Halliburton to beat the Celtics, but the ending of the game was controversial, to say the least. Let's take a look. Brown looks at the clock.

Brown shoots defensive foul against Buddy Hill that plays under further review oh no that's on the head he got him on the back of the head they missed that after review the backside defender Buddy Hill hits the ball therefore the call on the floor has been overturned to a what? Looks it's it to Matherin Matherin's gonna fire it up And they can't challenge because they don't have anymore right yeah, he shoots the ball before the buzzer And I think he was behind the arc too, Quinn. I think it's three. I don't... Tell him, this is a guy you don't want to show. I'm not sure there's a whole lot they can do with that. So as you see, everybody listen to the audio version of the show.

Caught a foul on Buddy Hilver, hit in the back of Jalen Brown's head, reviewed the play, overturned the call, said that he did not hit the back of Jalen Brown's head, even though we watched a video with him hitting the back of Jalen Brown's head with our own two eyes. Pacers came back, Porzingis fouled Benedict Matherin. Questionable. Oh, did you give me a bear down? Bear down.

Questionable on a three-point shot. Matherin hit two of three free throws. Pacers go on to win by two. So after the game, Jalen Brown called out the Yankee officiating. I think he obviously hit me in the head. I think we definitely need to do some investigation. That's all I'm gonna say. I think that was obvious one.

I got never heard of head part of the ball. That's what they said. I asked him when I've been asked, as they were like, did I get hit in the head? He looks me straight in the face, James and he says, no, you didn't get hit in the head? He looks me straight in the face James and he says no You didn't get in there Then you come down and make another and Like that cost our team a game and you expect us not to be frustrated, you know I mean we trying to build great habits. We're trying to win as many games as possible and we just drop one

because of that. So I feel like we got the right to be upset and the league should understand. Of course we're going to say something about it after the game, so I don't think it should be any fines. But I definitely think that one should be investigated. Of course we're going to say something after the game, so I don't think there should be any fines. I tend to believe that the league doesn't generally follow that recommendation.

But the overturned foul even had LeBron James questioning the play and having the Lakers support the Celtics. That's how you know some shit is really, really real. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's rare. That's rare. So LeBron put up the tweet, says, see what I'm saying? JB clearly got hit in the back of the head. They reviewed the play just to reverse it and say he didn't man what? Good ass game to have an ending like that And y'all see why I'd be going Shit out there when it happens god bless emojis because it could be interpreted a lot of different ways Yeah, I thought it said gorilla shit. Gorilla doodle.

Eat shit crazy. Yeah. Absolutely. Again, I got some. King Kong shit. Some very, very. Kang Kong. I got some. Kang Kong.

King Kong poo? Okay. All right. Jalen Brown eat his Coretta. Did the Celtics get done dirty by the refs in their loss to the Pacers? Y'all can speak freely on the show. We don't have to worry about getting fines or credentials. You already know we're not getting either.

Shit, chill. No, go ahead, Gil. No, the fact that he said he didn't get in the head, right, when the world sees it, right? As the league, I mean, you know, we will hope you find the ref. Or at this point, I don't think we give a fuck at this point, right? We know you're not going to do anything to the refs.

The problem is you have a system in play. You have a system in play. You have a system in play, right? He went to the screen, sat there for one minute, two minutes, right? He has every angle in the world, and he still can't see he got his... He got a nigga in his ear telling him what it is, too. They talking to the... Eating a ham sandwich. They talking to the niggas up top.

Eating a ham sandwich. They talking to them up top. Like, yo, yo. Like, no. Okay, so I have, okay. That's why I want to hear what, like, I want to hear how they explain it in detail. Right. Right?

Because I'm sitting here looking like. They're going to have to. He hits his head, but is it this theory right ball first no no no right Jalen uh buddy's jumping this way and because Jalen's floating right his head hits the arm are they saying that the defender is there first like I'm trying to you know I mean I'm trying to figure out how they will justify justify you know what I mean like oh uh trying to figure out how they will justify it. You know what I mean? Like, oh, I got my hand here. You run through it because, you know, he's trying to block it. And then because of the fade, he hit his head ducks.

So I'm trying to figure out how that makes sense. He said that they said that his head is a part of the ball. No, no, no, no. He said he ain't never heard of that. He said, I've never heard of my head. So he asked the ref if he, no. That's what I'm saying. No, no. He said he asked the ref if he hit him in the head. He said, I've never heard of my head. So he asked the ref if he, no. That's what I'm saying. He said he asked the ref if he hit him in the head.

He said no. The ref said no. I thought he said that the ref said that my hand, my hand was, my head was a part of the ball. He said I ain't never heard. Can you play that he even hit the ball? Yeah, he hit the ball. He got the ball.

He did? He did? Yeah, he got the ball. He hit the ball too. Oh, so let's go back so we can try to see. I thought you were trying to say because he hit the ball first and then he hit him across his head. Like, he hit the ball, then the back of the head.

So let's look at it again. Like, slow it down. Like, slow it down too so we can really see it. Not yet, not yet. Wow! Yeah, on the replay. On the replay. Yeah, on the replay.

Defensive foul against the New York. Right here. Okay, slow it. Keep going. Keep going. Back and to the left. Back and to the left. Back and to the left. Back and to the left. Back and to the replay. On the replay. Yeah, on the replay. Defensive foul against the New York. Right here. Okay, slow. Keep going.

Keep going. Back and to the left. Back and to the left. Right there is where he hit the ball. And then he hit. But see, that's what I'm saying. You see how he's floating with it too. You see how he's.

Still. It's a foul. But he's floating away from it. It's a fucking foul. Yeah. Right. So he doesn't. Keep going.

He hits the ball first. Right there. Oh Okay, go cuz buddy's coming this way Let's see There he hit his head right there and he got the ball. Oh, dude. That's a foul. That's a foul. Yeah, right? In this situation, what is buddy hill doing that for absolutely yes for sure But they you got the man right in front of the test shot. Yeah, what the fuck you know? So after they overturned this shit, right the game should have been old Jayla Brown should have lost his shit Yeah, the game would have been over either way ago cuz I'm gonna get a fucking technical

game over either way go and I come to you and ask you if I got hit in here you said you sit up there and You look me in my face and you tell me no you did get hit Game over either way go. Yeah, we ain't going overtime You know went on the free throw absolutely don't cheat me on the free throw, absolutely. Don't cheat me. Don't cheat me. Beat me. Yeah, that'll be my whole thing. It's blatant.

I know what I felt. Yes. I know what the replay just showed everybody. And you say no? I ask you a question. I'm about to lose. And I get hit in my head. You sit up there and tell me no.

I'm about to lose it on your ass. Oh, the game over. I'm about to lose. And I get hit in my head. You sit up there and tell me no. I'm about to lose it on your ass. Oh, the game over. I'm about to lose it. Oh, the game over. What? And the coach got to understand. And see, this is the problem. We know nobody going to go in the locker room and say shit.

You can't just get in. The coach should be upset. Yes. He should get a technique. Everybody. It would have been six shots out there, motherfucker. Jalen Brown should have got to take Jason Tatum Yo, fuck it after they cheated them boys all them so after we get cheated everybody

Wait, this motherfucker 20 point blowout. Damn, what happened? .6 on the clock. The bitch is empty. What? You should have went down the line. Everybody got a ticket. And the owner should pay for it.

Yes. What it cost y'all? $2,500 or $5,000 if you're getting kicked out? I got you. I got it. Thank you for being passionate about the Boston Celtics. Man. I ain't going to cheat you.

I'm going beach a man Last thing I needed you to cheat me, but that's what happens when you let sports betting into the NBA me That's your alleged. I'm just saying man. She ain't no other reason to be overturning calls when it's a tie game So how do you guys feel about challenges in general? Do you think it's good for the league trying to do away with it? Is it actually beneficial when we see shit like this so we could all see with our own eyes? No Don't work. How can they work if they just did fail? What makes it worse is

Instead of watching the call that you made you're trying to justify Why you made the call, right? So if I go on the lane, right, and you hit me in the head and you call head hit, right, and they challenge it, and then you go to the film and you see he didn't hit me in the head, but he hit me on the arm right before I got there. And you say, oh, no, it's a foul. He hit him on the arm. Bitch, that's not the call you made. What the fuck?

You didn't make that call. That's bullshit. You had me hit. That's bullshit. I think I saw that last night in the game where the ref was baseline, or ref was behind the play, made a call that he wouldn't have been able to see. But he's the one who made the call after review.

But it's like you didn't see that shit from your angle. Yeah. I just hate when they change the whole, you went here to see if he got hit in the head. Any foul before that has no merit because that wasn't your call. That's crazy. That was like that Zion one.

Just like it. Like I pulled you over for no reason. That's the true. I found a little weed in your car. I found a little weed. But you had no reason. That's the Dre Martin shit. I found a little weed in your car. I found a little weed. It's the Dre Martin shit with the Donovan Mitchell shit. The Dre Martin Donovan Mitchell

shit. What he do? Ooh, ooh, he did something. Ooh, he did it. They go back and look at it, give a nigga a taste. Yeah, like you didn't even- Flavor the fire like, no. You didn't even make a call for this. Yeah. You didn't even make a call. Like after the game, you can go and then send a fine I'll put on whatever it is. You can't do that in real life. That's why they say after further review

They going over there to further look at other shit Yeah, you can't find other because that's what they're doing. They're billing themselves out But so I gotta have a call cuz I made something but sometimes it'll be a previous like an earlier thing in the possession Sometimes they say that that they can't review that part of it It's like Making up shit. Yeah, so that's like the comedian said we're gonna do get um get caught cheating on his wife Is I think he says you're gonna believe me or your line? I know what the fuck we saw man

Did they change the rule at first wasn't it that they couldn't go back and review other things that happened It just had to be that one thing now. It seems like they're they're digging in something They're able to go back. I don't know what the other criteria is, but they're able to go back sometimes to be like Oh, it wasn't a foul here, but there was some day. Oh, you didn't get hit in the head They trip trip foul blocking foul. I said God like no shit the fucker I just like when it now they can go back and get the guy who? Makes the first foul, you know when you foul somebody and they don't catch the first one But then the nigga hits you with the other foul and they give you that one now they go back and be like no

He hit him first. Yeah, he hit him first and then he responded Well, so then he don't get he just gets a regular foul. He gets a flavoring foul He started even Joe Mizzou in the postgame presser He said I just can't wait till 4 o'clock. I'm not bothered It's just buddy Hill told me that he found him so I can't wait for the last two minute reporter You know, I got it. Look buddy. You're honorable, man. Okay, you would tell now in that situation dog We foolish shit as athletes on the floor. We can know we show We get that ball. We can throw that bitch out of bounds and point our way.

That's us. That's us. Both hands on that bitch. On my mama. On my mama. I didn't touch that butt. Come on, man. God damn.

In a situation like that where it's causing somebody to game and shit. I got him. I got him. It's like that commercial. It's like, look, look. Hey, we going to take it, though. Yeah, yeah. We going to take this motherfucker, though.

Thank you. The problem is, what is he waiting for the two-minute report for? What are they going to do? Are you going to we gonna take it, though. Yeah, yeah. We gonna take this motherfucker, though. Thank you. The problem is, what is he waiting for the two-minute report for? What are they gonna do? Are they gonna give you a win? No. Mm-mm. You gonna say,

oh, I told you so. Still a L. Yes, I am. And how do y'all feel about the two-minute report? Because me personally, if y'all fucked up, just own it and let's move on. I don't wanna hear how we fucked up.

Nigga, we know. We watched. Where's the fine, nigga? How much money did you lose? Yeah, how much money did you lose? That's what we want to hear. Because I know how much money y'all lose for talking about it. Yep. the fine, nigga. How much money did you lose? How much money did you lose? That's what we want here. I know how much money I lose for

talking about it. I think players will rest better if we got to see the fine like they get to see ours. Like the public gets to see our fine. This is a professional job. We both work at the same workplace. Right? How come this

entity is protected like they do not work here damn they work here damn like i see i see this employee motherfucker twice a month right so if he gets fined okay hey you know it's boss celtics boom boom boom got fined three thousand dollars000 for the car. Cool. Cool. All right, bet. 25. We get to 25 for criticizing the refs after the game. 25,000. Draymond Green.

Yeah. Criticizing the refs. But the ref get to go crib after. And we don't see nothing. Nothing. But even though they do get penalized, because you hide it, it makes us look like you're doing something shady. Yes. Even though you're taking

these guys off of games and they're getting written up, because the players that are upset don't see it, we think there's shady business going on. Facts. You got to go through

five witnesses. If the league really want to know how we feel about referees, start having jury duty on the Western. Have four of them come out. I guarantee you half the refs y'all hire wouldn't even be working game. Just so you can see the opinion of players and coaches and staff on these guys. We sit here like, hey, no, no, no,

no, no, no, no. We don't want none of y'all. No, no. Get us a whole nother crop. Gucci man, no. Actually, Tony and Brothers rated one of the higher officials in the NBA, bro. Yes, but by who? By whoever's fucking doing the polling.

No, no, the coaches vote. But that's what I'm saying. They vote, but because players don't see it, we... I want to see you get penalized just like you see me because if I say something about you,

it's going to be in tomorrow's paper. Yeah. And if I was right, we don't see nothing. You see a two-minute report. The refs that come up during, like, the next time they see you or after halftime they come out,

yeah, I missed out on them. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. I missed out on my bad. Because you asked them to review it. You were like, hey, man, let's check it out. But not even sometimes. Sometimes. I had them come up to me out of nowhere, just admit that they botched one.

So in the athletic poll, Scott Foster was named the worst referee while Tony brothers was elected the best I think 108 players gave their opinion Meanwhile Scott be out there taking that shit personal man. Yeah Scott been on there too long. He been he just Mission impossible tongue Tom Cruise looking ass nigga. Who your favorite rest when y'all were playing and why did you like them? I like Kenny, man. Okay. Kenny was my guy. Kenny who? Kenny Mauer.

Man, fuck Kenny Mauer. See? My man. He was a Minnesota guy, so... Exactly. So, yeah, you know what I'm saying? He talked to me. He was like, man, I like you, man. I was like... That son of a bitch kicked me out the game for clapping.

The story I told was Stack was fucking J.R. Land on the ground, Joel Wilder's elbow, and he get up, he got a big-ass knot. The story I told was Stack was fucking J.R. Land on the ground, Joe Wallace elbowed him. He get up. He got a big-ass knot. Them motherfuckers, man, I'd fuck Kenny Miles. Yeah, I like Tony Brothers. Eric Lewis. I like Eric.

Is it Niece? What was the old dude? Which one? You like Eric Lewis? Niece isn't the one who was running with Shaq. No, that's Dick Rivera. That was Dick? Okay, so I like Dick, yeah. Did you say you like Eric Lewis?

Pause. Yeah, I like him. He was cool. I like Benny. You can just yell at Benny. Benny Sabatoir? Yeah, you can just yell at Benny. He looked scary. Fuck Benny. He threw me out of the game.

I'm afraid my rookie year. He got kicked out by Benny? Benny threw me the fuck out, boy. Shut that shit up. Benny was scary to throw people out. You fucking fool me. He's like, you a rookie? Who you yelling at?

We was against Denver, too. Yeah. Who the fuck? Benny, man. Got you with the Denver. I like Joey Crawford. You like Joey? Joey was fair, man.

He didn't do nothing. He never did nothing. Joey kicked me out the game rightfully so one time. I ran through Donyell Marshall's like I destroyed him Mm-hmm. He said illegal pick the first time in and call it. I destroyed him joy We're not dealing with that shit today Didn't give me to mmm after the first we were like we're not dealing with that shit today. I was like, you know what? Did y'all see this play and

NBA League y'all need this should have NBA league? Y'all need to... Should have been down by then. This is what you need to investigate on. It was Beal. Who was Beal flexing with? Bam. Right? Bam and him flexing on each other, right?

You see the ref? Ready to go in there in between. He in there looking. Who going to do something first? Get your motherfucking ass over there. God damn, what's your problem? Let me and him do what we doing. What are you here for?

To see if we say something to each other so you can tech one of us? Yep. Mind your business. Yeah, they overzealous. That's what I'm saying. Mind your business. We made too much money to fight anyway.

But if we do fight, you're going to see the build up anyway. Mm if we do fight, you're going to see the build-up anyway. You're going to see the build-up. Let us do that. We will let you know. Hey! Hey! Other than that, let us play. You talk trash.

We flex and you see we... It's like they get in. They want to be so invested. Yeah, I like Zach. Zach was good. I like Zach. I like Violet. And that most of you talk about, though.

Yo, yeah, he was good for us. Did that flex? Violet. Yeah, I like Violet. Violet was a good ref. That flex? She's the only one that lasted. Yeah.

When they first started. But you remember how bad Dee was? Dee and Violet started together. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She was so, they got asses. Yo, Dee was real bad. She was bad. I thought a Dee'set started getting together. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She was so, they got ass. Yo, Dee was real bad. She was bad.

I thought a Dee's nuts joke was coming. No, no, no, no. I'm just telling you guys. You know I don't. I know, but I just thought you was going to break court. I don't play those games, bro. I thought you was going to break court. No, I'm saying.

You been setting this up for two seasons. No, no, no, no, no. Now, Violet was, she was, um, no, there was a few good refs, man, out there. They called the game the right way. Yeah. A few of them son of bitches. Trash. Feel like they cheating you out there, though.

And they actually were cheating us. Yeah. I kind of like Monty a little bit, but then... Yeah. Monty started showing... But it was after I was out, so I started seeing him doing a little questionable shit every now and again, but... Shit, Monty had charged, but it was after I was out, so I started seeing him doing a little questionable shit every now and again.

Monty in charge of a bunch of referees. Monty be at EYBL, shit. He in charge of all the refs. Like referees, it's one of those things if you know we're frustrated, that's part of our game, right? And you, like Jalen, he? He got hit in the head. You missed that call. And I'm yelling at you.

Your job at this moment in time is to take it. Yeah. You fucked up. Right? You gotta take because you messed up. Don't try to compromise the situation or move the goalposts to give me a tech because you messed up. Right?

So you're penalizing me twice for your mistake. And I don't like, that's the only thing I don't like. Like, let me get my shit off, and when I feel like, whoo, okay, I go back to being normal. Yeah. And then they compound the shit. Man, they make it worse for the tech. No, no, no, no, no, no, this game. They compounded the shit, go to the other end and call that foul. That's what's been taking us off.

Listen, James, you know you fucked up. You saw that man got hit in his head. You let your college, y'all go down and call that shit. Did James make that call? I don't think it was him. I don't think it was him. You let your college, y'all go down and call that shit. Did James make that call? I don't think it was him. Yo, so he already got three. So if didn't nobody get kicked out when they overturned the shit,

definitely should have got kicked out when they called the five. We know we out of here now. Yeah, that's already three. Like we just said before, that was already three free throws. So that started with them three, right? We're at six on the clock. Jalen, yo, two more. That's five three free throws. So that's thought with them three right six on the clock jailing. Yo two more. That's five the coach I said couple very Precinct is my face up cuz I was one of them. Yeah, I would have been in a yelling today if I'm uh

If I'm Indian and I did a turn around and got hit in the head, you better call it. Don't try to make that shit up because you fucked up on that side. No, no, no. Call that whistle, God damn it. They don't got no more money. Hey, one of you that got ready to shoot the feet of one of them niggas would have went out that motherfucking block. For sure. For sure.

Fuck y'all niggas, man. Give me the take. I'll be there. I'll be there. You make that shit up on my head, man. For sure. We going to call it even. No, the fuck, man. Give me the take. I'll be there. I'll be there. You make that shit up on my head, man. For sure. We going to call it even. No, the fuck we not.

No, we not. I don't want to go over time. For real. We was out of here. We just won the game. Shit. Fuck. Let's keep this thing moving.

I got to talk a little bit about the Clippers. With the blowout win on the Suns' Big Three Monday, Clippers improved to 15-3 since the beginning of December, which is the best record in the league in that span. And when the Harden trade first went down, things were looking shaky, but the team has gotten back on track, and the coaching hasn't gone unnoticed by at least one superstar in the league.

The new James Harden Clippers, how do they look to you so far? Oh, they look great. You say, is it the James Harden Clippers? No, it's the T. Lou Clippers. I know T. Lou very well. Don't take T. Lou long to make sure it get right. Took him five games, and they've been cooking since. Now, this may have just been a Darvin Ham sneak diss.

Yeah. But either way, how much credit does Ty Lou deserve for the Clippers' recent success? That was weird to me. I was like, what? When you asked about Darvin earlier in the me. I was like, what? When he was asking about Darvin earlier in the interview, it was like... He only take him

only like five games to get the shit right. Only take him five games. Five. Five. One, two, three, four. Yeah. Only take him like five games.

You know, he's got that shit rolling. He got his rotations rolling and everything. Only in five What you saying Brian is it not the LeBron James Lakers or is it the Darvin ham Lakers? No, this is the Darvin ham Lakers right here. These are the Darvin ham Lakers These are the Darvin ham Lakers the city putting out there. Those is his so is we leaving Darvin on the on the island right now? They're gonna leave Darvin on the island like it's all I do again. Yeah

The only the only players not have to show up. No. No, the only reason the only reason that I say This is his fault because When in the in season tournament you had a rotation right? Fuck you, right you had a rotation. Do you see your rotation? Yes That ain't the same rotation now. No, so y'all gonna not talk about the Clippers. That's start talking about the Lakers Let's talk about the Clippers. Can we talk about the leg? That's how you feel. I'm just saying I think you want to talk about the Clippers. Can we talk about the Lakers? That's how you feel? I'm just saying. I didn't think you wanted to talk about the Clippers, man.

The man asked the question. We be listening to what he be saying, but we don't really be listening. Yeah, I'm just saying. Lakers saying, listen, they don't talk about. I don't care if y'all listen or not. The direct deposit hits on the fourth day of every month. Shout out to Underdog Fantasy. It's the fourth day?

For me, Gil. Oh. I negotiate a little different than you. Okay. I negotiate a little different. You don't use an agent. Shout out to you, Paradiso. Okay?

We are a combination. What will LeBron be saying, though? Is he saying that it's not James Harden's team? He's saying give Ty Lue credit for taking all these different pieces. And putting them together. Putting them together to produce. It's only one piece that came in Okay, but now working with that you guys say a big four, right? It was a big three went to a big four even though Russ isn't playing as much as some of us would like Well, Kenny, I'm gonna start with you because you understood the assignment

How much credit does Ty Lue deserve for the Clippers recent success? No, I'm having an honest conversation with the guys man. That's That's what we know does Ty Lue deserve for the Clippers' recent success? No, I'm having an honest conversation with the guys, man. That's what we know about Ty Lue. Things we were saying on his couch. There's things that he was saying to them probably, so. Finding a rotation, man. Man, for the media to think that. James Harden, Clippers and all that, other guys were there first.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, I'm not mad that they're trying to give him credit because we heard how they sounded towards his career last year. They were making fun of him this year when they first got there. So the fact that they even came out and said that, I can't even complain about it.

At least you're giving them some credit because you guys have been killing this career ever since last year. I feel like it's not a lot that he needs to do but just get the lineups right. If you get the lineup right, I think those guys are good enough to figure it out, which I think they did amongst each other.

They figured it out. All right, James, when you come in this bitch and Russ is on the bench, we need you to facilitate for the other two guys at our scores. And when you're not on the floor, Russ, you do what you do. And T. Lewis just needs to manage the minutes the right way. If you can manage the minutes the right way, everybody's going to be happy. And then we play good. I think Russ had eight five and five one game,

and he was getting interviewed. He was just like, we just having fun now. Ain't nobody tripping about no minutes. Ain't nobody tripping about who going to shoot what. You got a job. You got a job. You got a job. Do your fucking job.

Guard your fucking man, and we will win games. So Russ has something similar when he was with the Lakers, and that kind of spelled his inevitable demise with the team. Let's just have fun. Just have a good time. And that was right after somebody else said some shit too, right? Somebody said some shit and he was just like, man, let's just have some fun. And shout out to Westbrook too for sacrificing

his own playing time, volunteering to come off the bench for the good of the team. But let's talk a little bit about... That's some bullshit in itself but you got... Good PR though. I think it could have worked. Yeah Yeah, he made the choice It's not like we're not this did we still have the bigger to see that down the road? Yeah, no, but because it trust me the playoffs when they get down to it. You still need him

Yeah, still gonna need what he bring to the table He go win the series for him. Yeah, but just what he do man. Or game in the series that you know. Yeah, but you gotta give credit to them guys that's out there. They figuring it out. Cause we were starting the conversation of basketball IQ. So glad to see they figuring it out man. So Ty Lue was a Lakers coach for about 35, 45 minutes, if you guys recall.

Do you think the Lakers will make a run at Ty Lue again as Bron tried to get one more chip before retirement? I mean, if I'm Ty Lue, I don't take the job. Me, he wouldn't give it to me the first time. Oh, he did. Oh, they gave it to him. They just told him, like, this is going to be your assistant. Who, him?

Nah. Nah. I already see how this is going to go. I know. I see my replacement. Let me see that black light. Yeah, yeah. Let me see that black light, goddamn it.

They're writing on that wall over there. That is a rough one. They're writing on that wall over there. That is a rough one. They're writing on the wall over there. As being a coach, I mean, you do want the smartest minds around you to help you. That would have been a great assistant, Jason Kidd. The problem is I didn't pick him. I didn't get to pick him. Let me call that motherfucker. Don't don't don't don't do you just give say you gonna take him with you. No, no, no We get on the flight. They got mostly a and B. Yeah, where you going?

Me too. So what job they give you shit your assistant? Let me pick my let me pick my assistance like don't know give me a list of people I can pick and you know me being someone Who wants to the smartest with me? Oh? Boom there you go, and if you want to trick me just pick a whole bunch of people I know that's done these could be your sister Let me go with you. I think Tyloo it would be a bad move for him to try to take that job. I don't think he need to go nowhere.

I think he can build the rest of his resume with this team if they don't move no pieces and they keep the Clippers the Clippers. I mean, they may not win another championship, but at least they'll be. Another? I mean, they won't win a championship. Okay, I was about to say. I'm thinking about Ty Lue winning another championship. But it's like one of those things where he can give the confidence to the Clippers.

But if he jumps ship to go to the Lakers, it's a clout move. You know what I'm saying? You don't want to look like you're just going to jump ship. And then you're only going to do that for one year with LeBron. You know what I'm saying? It's like, yo, you really just gave up on Kawhi and Pete? Like, come on.

I don't think that would be a good move. Use it as a bag finessing move. Give Ballmer to break even more bread with just the Thread of it happening bomber got hit for pocket. It's a good fire. Well, they got it man this This year they went all-in right They at least got to make it to the Western Conference finals Mm-hmm and make it competitive in the Western Conference, if not a finals appearance. If the playoffs started right now, right now, with the brackets the way they are,

there'd be a fifth seed playing against Sacramento. Sacramento, that's what I'm thinking. Tough matchup. They'll win that. They'll win that series. They'll win that series. It'd be close, though. No, it won't be close.

It won't be close? It won't be close? It won't be close. I like Sabonis and Fox. Yeah. Against Zubac and James. They ain't enough. James ain't playing no D like that. Zubac can't move with Sabonis.

But they ain't got no Kawhi or what's in there. They don't. They're not going to put James on Fox. They're going to have to. No, they don't. They're going to put some size in there. In a playoff series? Yeah.

They're going to put Paul George and Kawhi on that boy. Put Paul George on him. Abs of fucking loot. And then the second round. Come on. We're doing this. We're in a playoff series here. You're right.

You're right. You're right. You're right. You're right. I'm just taking point cards. Second round will be Timberwolves. Potentially. I'm going with the Clippers.

Clippers. Okay. Right? Timberwolves. Yeah. Ant-Man going to have to guard three. He got four problems to deal with. He got four problems.

They got defenders on that team, on those Timberwolves. They ain't got enough. They ain't got enough. Western Conference Championships. Because one of your best attributes is going to be null and void. Which one? Rudy. No.

It's a double-double. They're going to play small. They don't have to. They don't have to guard Kawhi. The Timberwolves don't have to guard Kawhi or Paul George. No, that's what they always do. That's why he always can't win. They go to zone. That. They don't have to. The Timberwolves don't adjust. They don't have to guard Kawhi or Paul George. No, that's what they always do. That's why he always can't win. They go to zone.

That's why they go to zone. Timberwolves go to zone when they go small. With full shooters? Yes, that's what they've been doing. That's why they've been winning. They adjust. You're going to put Norm Powell out that bitch? Instead of taking him out?

You're going to put Norm Powell out that motherfucker, take Zubac out, and shoot your goddamn face off. They got to come guard. Who? Guard. What gotta come guard who God to me who? They can they gotta come down on the Hall and y'all too small. Oh And they got it too small. They're not worried about really just gonna do they gonna get a ball to really We're gonna ball down the road. Please do roll roll. I guess what I do I guess what I'm gonna do Ant-Man and Rudy

Rollin rise Really with cat roll a rising at the top. What are y'all talking? That's what I'm even even pick and roll with cat just staying lifted. What are y'all talking about? Guess what I'm gonna do I'm gonna let James guard Rudy go bear. Yep. Why throw the ball in the post fuck. No, we wouldn't know it in the post We wouldn't pull they gonna try to oh We rolling what we rolling and we switching it switch it exactly That's what we won't now. We got ant-man on the month. I'm gonna be getting a man on kawaii Like y'all defenders at the same wing

Them to me from here. What do you got Denver next? Then if Denver then they roll the same layers that a roll just Lakers, you know How you rolling going into Denver they scared on the playoffs here doesn't say that if it stopped right now even Even whenever is this they figure this shit out right now, right in the last month a 15 and 3 Drop one against the Lakers. They're going to drop a game. They figured out how to win. Damn what I was saying a minute earlier.

They figured out how to win with what they have. They just lost to the Lakers. Okay, like I said, even the sun shines on the dog ass some days. Just saying, it looked bad. We got a spot on the half that day. Everybody was healthy too. It's like, ugh, what is that? It just happened.

That's why I say Sacramento got a chance. Even the trash can gets a stake, man. Sacramento got a chance. Minnesota got a chance. Just like that. It ain't a good one. It's a sweet one. But they learn how to win right now, right?

And we all know winning is a learned behavior, a learned thing. It's a habit, right? So once they figure this shit out now, this is playing like pretend it's wood. They're going to pretend it's wood. Right? They all stay healthy. And the playoffs, they're fucking scary. Yeah, 100%.

Because in game one, Kawhi can give you 35, 40. Game two, Paul can give you... In any given game, you got one of me that can go off of 35, 40, 50 or more. Three of them. Right? Then just two of them. You can have all three of them.

That's a game you can't win. So that's all I'm saying. And then in the playoffs, once they get in that rhythm, they figure the matchups out and the mismatches and all that, good luck. That's where T. Lou come in. Good luck beating them.

Get the mismatches going, and yeah, we're going to exploit everything. And then you have situational basketball, situational things, certain guys not playing, just, if you're having a game where James not really, then you throw fucking bones out there

and just, or you let Russ go create not really, then you throw fucking bones out there and just, or you let Russ go create the pace, then you got Norm Powell. They got, I'm just like, they got guys that can put the ball in the basket. Yep. And it seems as if they're figuring it out at the right time before all-star break and certain things.

It just seems like they're figuring it out and any seven-game series, they'll fucking prop. They got it. Okay. It's good to see. Obviously, health is the most important thing, so we'll keep hoping for, you know, quiet PG, that crew to stay healthy as possible because we love to see guys on the court regardless of what team they're on.

I wish some of the players on my team can get hurt. They can't get in the game. You talking about the Suns? Your team? The Suns? No, the Lakers. You said hurt. Hurt. Just so they don't have to get in the game. Because right now, the two separate things.

Yeah, like a hurt toe. You're injured or you're hurt. If you're hurt, you can play. Stubbed toe. Stomach, diarrhea. If you're hurt too possibly, you can still play. Angle, angle, twist. If you're injured, you know, diarrhea. If you hurt too possibly, you can still play. Angle, angle, twist. Macchiato. If you're injured, you can't play. You know what I mean?

There's a sign. We're the only team that's wishing for shit to happen. You can just hurt them three right there. Right there. Turf toe. I think I hurt my back again. He was asking for turf toe, that's all. A little turf toe.

A little IR. Let's talk lighter side real quick. During a win against the Pelicans recently, PG put some extra seasoning on Westbrook's Rock the Baby celebration. George on Alvarado. He's a shot on Alvarado. Downfall George with nine. Timeout New Orleans.

Clippers. Pass that imaginary baby to get rocked. He actually handed Russ an imaginary baby. That's called babysitting. That's called babysitting. You want to watch the baby? You want to watch the baby? That's teamwork.

That's when you know a team is really locked in now. Just to have the presence of mind. Westbrook, I know that you're a joint, but hey, guess what? I'm a geek now. Thank you. Go ahead and rock this baby for me. Come on over here. You know.

Burp this baby. You should have put the baby here and burped. That would have been dope, baby. It remains to be seen if somebody will call child services. Man, I mean... They're not taking care of that imaginary baby down the road. But what's the coldest celebration in the league right now?

Hmm. I mean... Didn't Russ do the first one to do the... Who did the two small ones? And then wasn't he the first one to do the who did the two small and then the one you the first one to rock so I'm gonna go with them two night-night is a good one too oh that one is oh yeah that's it at the appropriate time that's it cuz you you you get to see that one that's it soon as you turn around like oh night night gonight. Go to sleep. Go to sleep. Shout out Steph Curry. Go to sleep. Don't miss Steph.

Yeah, yeah, that's nice. Because when he did it, the significance of it. You want to go night-night, nigga? Yeah. You want to go night-night? True small is the funnier one because everybody do it. Everybody do it. So you go to Lululemon, you see nine, ten-year-olds doing it.

Too little. Lay it by himself. Ah, too little. Baby. It's not a player celebration, but how do you feel about the Kings light the beam? That's at the end of the game, right? After they win. I like it.

It's like the Tampa Bay Buccaneers when they score and then boom, blow the cannon. Yeah, cannon, star shoot. That shit cool. I mean, that's good for a team win. I mean, because people want to come see that, right? Yeah. Like the bean. That's good for shit.

That's good for team win. It's like the Luxor. Y'all remember back in the old school Vegas days when you saw that bean? Mm-hmm. Y'all ain't from out here, but when we was driving in and we could see the Luxor bean, we knew, all right. We almost there. Yeah.

We going to be in Circus Circus soon. Walking in circles with no money. Oh, I made it drive quite a few times. That's the favorite part. Yeah, we're with the Texas boy. We're looking for the Vegas tournament. Circus Circus, no money. Stealing. Stealing.

Yeah, for sure. What you got in that bag, boy? We roguish, nigga. You turn your head and start. What you got in that bag, boy? You knew the good teams that had bread because they had the big teddy bears from all the carnival games they got to play. Everybody else just circle. Circle around the midway.

What? Harassing people. Harassing people. What? Yo, fucking harassing folks, man. Yeah, nah, that shit, yeah. Let's keep this thing moving. So I asked yesterday, got a follow-up today,

because we got the dream killer in the building with us. Who is the best shooter in the arena? Again, it's time to find out, because we got the first annual Gills Arena Shootout presented by Underdog Fantasy coming January 20th at the District in Chatsworth, California, 1 p.m. Pacific. We're going to have the whole crew out there.

We're going to have fans. We got some qualifiers that are participating. We got our Gills Arena crew. We got some celebrity influencers all battling in the winner take all challenge for $100,000. So we got the recap, right? That's what we're showing first. Let's take a look at that recap from the qualifier to get you a little bit more about what you can expect from the Gills Arena shootout. At stake is pride in a

hundred thousand a hundred thousand dollars of underdog fantasies money so all the competitors come in january 20th i'm not scared of you you know i'm going for that 100k i'm here to win it money ball get hot can't hear the suit for a hundred grand shit Shit dog, you ready to go. This is a hundred thousand man. Damn. See that motivation, that look of fire in their eyes. You get the chance to pack up Gil. They're gonna have to level up. The trash talking, it's gonna happen after I get that hundred thousand. There we go. We got one. It's gonna be tough Gil. There ain't gonna be no fake water. You're gonna have to kill me, bro. You ain't gonna get this over me. I promise you that. Good luck. Good luck.

Good fucking luck. Thank you, Gil. No problem. Ha ha. So, Rashad, you're in the facilities right now. Emotional day on the show. Nervous. Nervous? Nervous. Nervous kicked in.

Nervous pee-pee. But you've been getting your mind right. You've been getting ready for this. I think we actually have a clip of you putting in a little bit of work. So let's check it out. Let's see what that jumperers. No. I want him to I want him. Okay wait We need the dream killer. I need a dream killer So this is we're talking about Okay, this is what we call filler ladies and gentlemen. We appreciate everybody in the chat

We appreciate everybody sharing their Vegas a you circuit stories as well in the chat right now You remember those struggle days, so we also have another contestant in the shootout, gaming influencer Peter Jennings. He got a video too of him getting ready, so let's take a look at that first. We wanna see what that form look like. Peter Jennings. Okay.

It's wet. Right, left, oh he can't shoot. Oh my god. Right, left. That's left-handed. Okay, unconventional Gil, unconventional. Just like a oven. But Buck is being god. No. A threat to what? To himself? He can't even get his foot in. To himself? Absolutely.

Y'all got the same jays on. No love? No love? No. He shoot the ball as if he's a left-handed person. Yeah, that's what I said. You know, he's an influencer by trade, but he come to get buckets. Okay. They got some real good in there, Gil.

Lower. Man, he look great for an influencer. I'm going lower. Everybody. Which should his higher or lower be said that in the first round 12 What would make you at least nervous on the lower for who for mr. Jenny? I'll give him maybe go make nine shots maybe Now he's shooter. No he shoot the ball the wrong way, Rashad. I know.

Wrong way. So did Halliburton. And when pressure is on. Halliburton do too. No, he don't. And when pressure is on. Yeah, he shoot left-right. That motherfucker ugly.

Shoot left-right. I'm talking about he shoot left-right. Shoot left-right. He shoot right-left. He shoot right-left. With a gather. And we're doing racks. That means he can't even gather like that on those racks.

We don't need to. We got a whole two minutes. So he going to have to go from the opposite side with the right. He got plenty of time, man., it's funny. He might be throwing y'all off with the video. No that motherfucker was cast wasn't it? It was going Yes, what he showed us. Yeah, that was how the edited part That's the editing of course. That's like I thought you watching film damn. He motherfuckers good. They'll never miss Mm-hmm I like me watching gills footage like I just look at that shit like that shit wasn't there when it was when the clock was on When the clock was on

When the clock was on that shit was gone I don't be paying no attention and jumping jacks doing high school jumping man man gotta go play against girls get a win man We'll not only Monica shot I'm Ellie Monica gotta go compete with them to get away in a field man He would not dare call me and say, let's go shoot. He calling Lexi. I've called you a hundred times. Lexi. I've called you a hundred times to go shoot.

Hey, Lexi. What are you doing? Are you shooting at 3 a.m.? He hitting my line saying, what's up, my nigga? You trying to shoot? You want to go shoot? You want to shoot? We can go shoot right now.

I don't shoot in backyards. Okay, there you go. I shoot in gyms. How are you you William? You hear me? The best thing. I don't prepare in backyards with a little hard ass. Adidas ball.

Get that shit out of here. Where the gym at? Yep. Adidas ball. Where the gym at? Wind, cold hands. Where the gym at? Yeah.

Six to eight inches to the right or left for those off the mid. Cold hands, wind. I'm going against every element possible, baby. Just in case somebody want to turn the air conditioner on in the gym, I'm prepared for it. So, Underdog will be doing special pick-ups during the Girls Arena shootout. And we've got this video, Gil. Get off my camera. Here we go again.

Here we go again. Gil, they say your foot's on the line. Oh, okay. Nope. Because I can't move back. KD. Here we go again. We got security cam footage.

Yeah. Shooting on a nine-foot goal, nigga. I mean, nine. We got security cam footage. Yeah. Shooting on a nine-foot goal, nigga. I mean, a nine-foot goal? Nine-foot goal. What's the point of shooting on a nine-foot? How does that make it easier if I've been training my whole life on ten-foot? Because you made excuses.

You're talking about some slam ball this, some slam ball that. No worries. No worries. And this rim is this and that. And that motherfucker was going in for me, and it wasn't going in for you. Don't worry. You're going to have to see this man right here No, actually they know this we're not sure no one's this morning. That was more than 4 a.m.

We know about the neighbors do I had to see this man? Hey this man ain't missing about that, too This man ain't missing me. He got a compete against me with 20 other people He can't just go head up like we did before Don't worry about it got to make this whole shit and hope I don't make it. So that he can say, look, I won. It's like, yeah, but you still lost to me. Gil, producer, you're saying that? Don't even matter.

How do we know that's even you, Gil? Huh? You know it's me. Okay. That's you? Okay. We know it's your backyard. You know it ain't no me. From when we had the hibachi chefs and that whole turn up What are you looking for is a miss? I don't know if you count, but it's gonna be 40 straight. No, I'm looking for the turn shit off

I mean, it's already straight. I'm tell you right now. You don't want these for you. You got you ain't winning. All right You see you All right You're gonna see it still going four minutes no miss Hey, we can go in the backyard right right now I will burn you right now, but you don't want that. No, I don't I know you don't I still got memories of 10-1. Yeah, that's all I remember. I don't remember nobody just putting up on he gotta do this Look what he gotta do Look at the shit this nigga gotta do to win y'all over I mean he him. Why do he got to do this?

Please tell me. I'm so confused. It's not the question. All of us through Gilbert Arena has got to post a video of him shooting and making shots. I don't got to do shit. I ain't even went to the gym. I'm going to shoot flat footed the whole tournament. You ain't going to win. You ain't winning. So what is this doing?

Confusing he's Gilbert. We all know who Gilbert is Whoever you want to call them Whatever Juan Raimondo You ain't been practicing You ain't taking this serious But he gotta practice against the girls He gotta practice against the I ain't even practicing And I'm gonna show up like I did last time I know you gonna show up

Boom boom bam 10 for 25 You better make 20. Ba-da-ba-ba-ba. You got to make 22 every round to compete with me. Orders. I'm just letting y'all know what y'all got. I want you.

The reason I'm showing you this. I got this nigga up at 4.30 in the morning in his backyard shooting jumpers. Just to let you know where I am right now Just in case you've been slacking just so I inspire you to be like, oh shit. He's been in the back Yeah, let me go ahead. I want all y'all inspire all y'all. I want all y'all Justin Hey, you know you've been just in case you think you've been shooting. I want to let you know where I am Who got you got your straight who got you Who got you out of your slumber? I know I ain't going to get you out of your slumber. Who got you out your slumber, though?

And I'm here. Who got you out of that? Right! Who got you out of that? Now what you going to do? You going to run? Who got you out of that? Are you going to run?

Huh? Don't run. Say thank you. Don't run. Say thank you. I don't need to say thank you. You welcome, Gilbert. Thanks for the dinner.

Way to wake up. Huh? You going to poke the bed? He get out growling? Don't run. The bum done woke up. Okay. Okay. The way to wake up. You're going to poke the bed. He get out growling. Don't run the bum Don't okay. Hey the bum done woke up Stephen a Smith. Uh, don't run. I got a nigga coming out of his slumber I was on the cards. I want you to wear And now I got this nigga at 430 in the morning cuz he won't this No, no, no. You got to be born with this.

I want that $100,000. You got to be born with this. I want that $100,000. You had to put $100,000 up just to make it in Tyson. I didn't put $100,000 up. Just to make it in. So if you didn't, you should have been played against me then. Shout out to our Caucasian brethren.

You should have been played against me, Gilbert. Shout out to our Caucasian brethren. Because you tried to play me for $100. Put up $100. Put up $100. Put up $100, Shai. I don't know. I'm gonna play me for a hundred dollars I just put up a honey. I just put up a honey shot. I was him again, right? I can go in there right now. We ain't going We ain't going nowhere. Of course. I'm the king. You know where we're going. I'm the king. We're going to mostly fans I'm better by the door. Let's get it. Yeah, you tell me cuz I'm the king nigga Fuck you talking about.

I know where you're going. Yeah. Yeah. You're going to go to a little 24-hour fitness. Yeah. You're going to go to a little 24-hour fitness. I'm going to Ling Ling to get a massage for my dang dang boy. Yeah.

That's where I'm going. To relax. Hey, hey. I want the chat note. I'm going to give half of it to my chat, not this chat, my personal chat. Come on, Gil. I give y'all, look, I give this chat about $50,000. My personal chat is going to get $50,000.

Gil, I don't see no bread off your personal chat, though. I'm not. Come on, let's stick together. Listen, listen, listen, man. Trey and Ricky. Trey and Ricky. What happened to Trey and Ricky? Stick together, Gil.

We all we got got Ricky go to Ricky get ready to try come up to see you be we all got G money this will we all you want to split up right now? I'm playing You want to cut through these Is one verse 17 right now man? Y'all had the team up to beat me do you want to cut through these houses? We could have done it and they came right back made it to the Chris one level y'all ain't on right now It ain't the level I'm on I can tell you that for damn show get the cornmeal to fry the fish second place Why you ain't just bake the shit I can tell you right now. I'm taking more shot than all 17 of them combined

I need more y'all podcast niggas to mention my name. That's all I'm taking more shots than all 17 of them combined. I need more y'all podcast niggas to mention my name. That's all I'm saying Hey, the bad part is all the all the pressure To be honest all the pressures on him cuz he has the crown he won't the crown 10-1 This is your thing. So you gotta come to the you gotta come to the final round. Nah, you gotta win. You gotta win. I'm gonna beat it. You gotta win. I'm gonna beat it.

You gotta win. Ain't no pressure on me. I've already smacked you. You the king. You the one need to rematch. You the king. Imagine that now. Hey, first Tyson Fury beat Wilder. What happened?

We need a rematch. You the king. We gotta do it again. We gotta do it again. I didn't feel right. We wasn't in the right mind. I gotta do it again. You the king right now. in the right mind I gotta do it again you the king right now you got the Servant baby Gilbert arenas a humble servant. Yeah. All right. Well, that's not not humble in essence. I'm in a champion I just want to see you make it. Just make it.

He said I humbled him. Ladies and gentlemen, this is what you can expect. He watched four minutes of no mist. Boy, that boy, he sweating over here. He seen four minutes, no mist. That boy over here drinking water. Water ain't going to help you, boy. Mm-mm. All right, first question.

Hey, I'll hold them glasses and see the shit that I can see. First. You better zoom them motherfuckers in. Let me change the color. Let me go ahead. You better hold

them motherfuckers again. Dial it in, baby. I think we got all green right here. Uh-huh. Y'all like NBA 2K. I mean, I'm NBA Jam, baby. The hot spot

is on every spot. I truly respect and admire the way that Kenya can tune both of y'all out right now unfazed. Well, Kenya got to participate, so he's going to be watching. He don't got to participate. Give me you guys hope. Give me you guys a new hope. Lower. What I'm saying, Kenya, we don't even want them to vote.

We don't even want them to vote right now because he's going to have to go in there and hit himself. Because I don't got no video trying to sway y'all to vote for me. They just know you can't shoot. I'm on my Cat Williams shit. Y'all know what it is. Truth wins. All right, let's get into the first question from underdog user Steve Martinez. What do you think about Bogdan Bogdanovich being voted the best player in Serbia ahead of Jokic by the Basketball Federation of Serbia?

Kenya, we will start with you. I don't know anything about the people of Serbia, so if they voted that, he must be doing something, so I'll let them have it. Okay. I know what he's doing over here. I know what Nikola's doing over here. Do we have the voting list? Okay, yeah.

He got 27 votes. Jokic got 10 votes. The family might be bigger. Yeah, he might got more. I don't know. The family votes. I don't know, man. I'm just, like I said, they from, so I have no, yeah.

I'll say so. Mail-in ballots still being sorted through. Some hanging chats, if you will. We'll get what you think about it. It makes sense. I mean, for the last, I mean, he was a decade player. He was on the all decade team. All decade team, four championships, three MVPs.

I mean, Jokic has been here. So when they're both back in Serbia when they're both playing together You'll you'll get just the best player there or is he telling them what for flat? No, he's the best. He's the best please the best player there, but you gotta remember your kids don't go to every year He out there with them horses, you know, so, all right, well, let's move on to our second question video question from underdog user be Mac 32 Have a belated birthday here, Belito. No, my question is, though, like, do you always talk about how, you know what I'm saying, it ain't about where your draft class is, it's about your age.

So how does that affect the longevity of some of these young guys coming out careers? Like, Caleb Love, like, he'll be 23 once he gets drafted, and he's not going to come out straight dominant in the league. So how does that play a role in guys' longevity? He's looking at being there two, three years, then getting lost in the G League or overseas somewhere. So how much does that really play a role in the longevity of guys career? So you're talking about Caleb loves that North Carolina transferred to Arizona from st. Louis

I'm surprised you don't got the janky birth certificate. Let's say he bought 18 and a half They Lewins mm-hmm I'm an industry play Shout out to our resident st.. Louis and Trevor Trout. What is it, St. Louis? What is y'all, St. Louisians? What y'all? Gangsters.

Okay. Ferguson's finest. So how does age affect your longevity if you come into the league older? I mean, if you get a sense of, right, if the average age, you retire, right, you have a full career, right, you're, let's say Dwayne Wade, right? Dwayne Wade, they come in the same draft, right? By the time he's, you know, 37, he's on his last legs, right? Even at that same time frame, the same amount of years, LeBron's only 34. Right?

So you have three more, two more years versus your class if you're younger. When you're older, it's like you have to be impactful right away because you're not judged on the learning curve. You're judged right now in real time. And when you're 18, 19, it's easier for you because it's like, okay, we'll give you two, three years to get your, your, because usually it's like the third year. By the time you get in your third year, you should be, you know, dominating whatever you're doing. Right. So that's really the grade. Right. But when you're a little bit older, you have to be, you have to be, especially now, right. since early 2000, 98, 99, right, you have to be ready now.

Yeah. Yeah, I just look at, well, we have rare situations. Guys come in a little older, play a little longer, but yeah, no, you just... Yeah, because a lot of these guys, they're not going to play past four years, man. Let's call it what it is. No matter what age they fucking come in. I'm just saying that the league is,

the turnover rate in the league is outnourish, I mean outrageous. I don't know what the fuck word was that. Outrageous. It's just outrageous. Yeah, no, I just think, yeah, of course the younger the better. But you do have rare situations where guys need to go to college, guys get better while they're in college, and they still play for 12, 13-plus years.

So there's rare situations. It's unfortunate because that's the dynamic that's changed in college. The longer you stay, the more of a liability you become because your years and your longevity is in question because the guy who goes one and done, compared to you staying four years, you got three years ahead of him but he's got three years of nba experience on you so you know they already caught the the rookie wall they already passed it and got to their third year they know the ropes they know how to move around you come in thinking

that this you know four years in college is going gonna be smooth sailing for you to get in there then you hit the rookie wall and you got to go through the aches and pains that take two three years to get through and by that time if you ain't shown that you a star quality type player or a good enough role player right now of what they're doing it wasn't doing it right then but G League is immediately it's like yeah're 22 23 going to the G League shit. Yeah, so Unfortunately, but yeah, you have unless you you got to be dominant You got to be winning in college and they got to see certain things in you. Mm-hmm if you 21 20 20 yes, 20 23. He gonna be 20 21 22. Yes. He's Caleb love gonna be 23. Oh, yeah

Yeah, we're gonna let's be 23. It's tough. Unless he's dominating right now in college and he's destroying college and it looks a certain way, then yeah, people are like, but if that ain't the case, if he ain't out there motherfucking head above and beyond talent-wise and dominating everything, like, then it's...

Like, if he's 23 Coming in league a team that would pick him is a general manager who wants to pick safe. Yeah, I just Am I draft is the shame bad. You pick. Mmm, right play. You're like, okay. I won't lose my job with him You know, we got all these high school kids. I don't know what's going on to me I'm gonna go you though because you know, you know, I pick you right Good guy. Yeah Yeah, you get to keep your job cuz you take somebody that's that's they have this high upside and on pan out You lose your job for it So we're gonna talk about a few of the exceptions on tomorrow's show

But this was a good teaser for that more extended conversation. We have one more mostly Fans question left. That's from Underdog User. I got to read this. Make sure it's safe to say. King Shavey. 1v1 tournament. All time. Three dribbles. Any player. Who you got? I got Jimmy Buckets. You know what I'm saying? And Gil, don't pick yourself, man. Pick a player. He said all time? All time.

All time, one on one. He said, Gil, you're not allowed to pick yourself. And he picked Jimmy Butler. He's a new generation, man. I like Jimmy. I'm a big time Jimmy. He dribbles. We are on top of the key or can you pick?

All time. I'm gonna go with Jordan. You pick your spot? I'm going Kevin Durant. Yeah. Y'all know who I'm going with. Ain't no goddamn question. Jelly Bean Bean Bean Brian. Yeah, I are doing to fix my different of course being but

When it comes to attributes, oh, so you got can I get the ball they want to Three what it was no, can I get the ball they want to is what I'm asking Top of the game anyway, I think it wing wing wing top wing. That's what I'm thinking. Top of the key. I'm thinking wing, wing, top wing. That's what I'm thinking. Okay, so I'll add it. Anything else is like, you got Melo, you got Mac, you got a lot of them over there. Well, I would say, well, if they can get the ball they want to, give me Shaq. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Three triples. Ah! We just need one. Yeah, can't touch this. I mean, Kevin Garnett. Tough. He's tough. At the top of the... It all depends. I can't touch this. I mean tough stuff

It all depends Three business matchups it is you know one-on-ones. It's always matchups team act. Yeah, that's I said it's all I can hang that motherfucking. Yeah, that goddamn shit there boy. Hey, listen better Hey, you better get ready goddamn cuz hey Kevin Durango. You eat at double crawler. Yeah Yeah, yeah. Wait till you, like, you finna shoot that bitch, and he bringing that bitch right back. Oh, yeah, it's a problem out here. Now, yeah, there's been some good shit, but I'm going to go KD.

Let's put some money up and make it happen. How? Gil, Gil, you are. He can't play. Y'all always trying to fucking, you OK? OK, Gil, you are... Y'all always trying to fucking... You're okay. Okay, Gil. You ain't the only one with heaters. In a prime...

Ooh. I want the senior league. Big three. Vince Collins. T-Mac got the OBL. Come with the O'Hare. Let him go one on one. Who, Vince?

Nigga, hey dawg. You gotta go look this shit up. I saw on you. His fucking first step,. Yes, I'm friends If you're mad, he ain't got a dribble that big dog. Hey, man It's the first step that if he get that ball on that left wing Hey, man to the sky. No, it's just anything once he get by you to the sky There's no dribbles don't

Look at the first step God God, that shit was wicked, man. It was just clip after clip after clip after clip. Him going, I'm like, hey, man. You got to foul me or let me go. What you going to do? Ooh, Grant Hill. Oh, my God. He couldn't shoot.

Huh? First step. Come on, Grant. Hey, so you just said it's the first step. When he came out, that first step, Come on, girl. Hey, so you just said it's the first step. When he came out, that first step. I know. Young Grant. Your three Grant, four Andy.

Yeah, get you. But he got to get to the basket every time. No, pull up. Let's pull up game. One dribble, pull up. He's a player in his life. No, then. It was early.

Yeah. You had a middie? Yes. Back then, that's all they ever said. Yeah, Grant and Mitch. Don't use this opportunity to hate. I'm just middie? Yes. And back then that's all they really had. Yeah, yeah, Grant and Mick, yeah. Don't use this as an opportunity to hate. Oh, no, I'm just thinking about the question

and all the guys who was bucket getters over time. Oh, for sure. I mean, I like that. They're real live bucket getters. Give a quick shout out to my man, Sebastian, Tellafair, man. I mean, back on the scene, trying to tell a story. I just want to shout my man out before we get off the air.

I don't ever have a good one. Tell him to pull up the gills right now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We talking. He say we need to do some content. But Bassie, my guy, he played with the Timberwolves. He was the reason I averaged 15. Okay.

This is my guy. Like, he was actually the best passer I ever. Yeah, he was a real player. Like, I ever played with. I think he's one of the best passers of all time. Is that video at the McDonald's game? All that. Passing the all around the

locker room Filet filet did a filet did a remix with his content all what bass he was doing over the years and you know I spent a lot of time with bassy, you know, I'm saying so I know his misunderstood Understood story and all things. I just wanted to shout him out and let him know man your bro here And I got your back bro Shout out Sebastian Telfair and shout out to the gills arena bro here, and I got your back, bro. Shout-out Sebastian Telfair, and shout-out to the Gills Arena crew for another great episode of your favorite show. Not even a basketball show, just a show in general.

Now, we are climbing up the charts, climbing up the rankings, getting everybody on board to Gills Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa! That's a great-ass compliment. Somebody just said my video was on a loop. They said that four-minute video was on a loop They said that four minute video Was on a loop

That's a compliment Boy my shot's so motherfucking pure That I thought that shit Was just on rewind They just thought Forty straight shots Was on rewind Now end the show

So he can go And go to the gym And we will see y'all Make sure y'all go to the gym To get your jumper Go to the gym man We will see y'all. Make sure y'all go to the gym, too, and get your jumper clothes. I'm going to the gym, man. We'll see right back.