Gil's Arena - Rashad McCants Sends A HOSTILE Response To His Haters

Episode Date: February 27, 2026

Rashad McCants Sends A HOSTILE Response To His Haters as Cemetary Larry re-enters virtual Gil's Arena to send a response to Raymond Felton, Theo Pinson, Deron Williams & Charlie Villanueva as the To The Baha Crew continued their hostile beef with their former North Carolina teammate. He responds to their claim that he is a delusional clown and calls out the sorry podcasters for using his name and Gil's Arena to boost their numbers. Then, the Gil's Arena Crew is able to break down basketball as Gilbert Arenas & The Crew react to James Harden going down with a fracture to his thumb in his non shooting hand and discuss if the Beard will be impacted by this injury as he was just starting to lift the Cleveland Cavaliers to new heights. They then break down more comments from Giannis Antetokounmpo regarding his future with the Milwaukee Bucks as the Greek Freak continued to hint at his plans to potentially move on from the franchise and highlight Cam Thomas for keeping the team afloat without Giannis as the high octane scorer has shined in his oppotunity with a new team. Finally, they break down Kon Knueppel's surprising rookie season as the Charlotte Hornets' sharpshooter is closing in on a 50/40/90 season in his first year in the NBA and debate if Kon can upset his former Duke teammate Cooper Flagg for the NBA's rookie of the year award, before giving their takes on the NBA's plans to stop tanking as it runs rampant through the league. Today's Gil's Arena Crew : Gilbert Arenas, Josiah Johnson, Nick Young, Brandon Jennings & Kenyon Martin Gil's Arena premieres every Tuesday, Wednesday & Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. Sign up for Underdog HERE with promo code GIL and play $5 to get $75 in bonus funds or bonus entries https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gi... SUBSCRIBE:    / @thearena0   Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos!   / discord   Must be 18+ (19+ in AL, NE; 19+ in CO for some games; 21+ in AZ & MA) and present in a state where Underdog Fantasy operates. Terms apply. Concerned with your play? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit www.ncpgambling.org; NY: Call the 24/7 HOPEline at 1-877-8-HOPENY or Text HOPENY (467369) Show Start 0:00:00 Gil Calls Out Swaggy For His Boxing Training 0:03:42 James Harden Fractures His Thumb 0:05:49 Dr. Larry Sends A Hostile Response To His Haters 0:35:51 Giannis Speaks On His Future In Milwaukee 1:06:29 Kon Knueppel Shining In His Rookie Season 1:27:56 Flagg vs Kon For Rookie Of The Year 1:33:05 NBA Looking To Curb Tanking 1:40:07 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome back to Gil's virtual arena presented by Underdog. Whoa, whoop. Woo. Not a spirit of Woo-woo here on this Thursday, but we will keep working on it. Work in progress. Oh. What I look like that? My dog.

That's going to be it. Is he awesome? He is his. Yeah. I can hear it. I can hear sweat. Gil, don't do the trickery Thursday. The trolley Thursday.

You don't sound like he's not off? I am on, motherfucker. There we go. There we go. But this is Gills Virtual Arena presented by Underdog. Woo-Woop. I'm merely a host,

Josiah Johnson. As always, we got the NBA legend and Arc Raiders player Gilbert Arenas here with us. Assassin. Arc Raiders, Killer.

Oh, that may have a good morning. That me had a good morning. So he's ready for, he's ready for, he's really going to kill for shit today. I've done an hour. I've done enough killer.

I don't know. We got NBA champion of the World Swaggy Pete, Nick Young here with us. Swaggy, you look like you ready? Yeah, I can sell 50 and shit now losing weight. You know, I was in the gym this morning. Oh, yeah, you do. Got a fight coming up on. Yeah, man, McKen's no, too.

He'll fight on my undercar. Representing tough crowd, car carrying country club member. We got Mr. B. Brandon Jennings back here with us. Sure. And last but, not least. a man that goes by many names Cemetery Larry Shoshidamus

Championship Charles Dr. Dr. Rashob McCants Ph.D. Former NCAA champion of the world is back here with us. Stay close to the thing. You can't hear them, right?

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Are you on your fault? Oh, motherfucker. Oh, motherfucker. So Swagin, when you scream, the audio seems to go down for some reason,

but nonetheless, we got a lot of things to discuss, as you guys already know, in the NBA world, on and off the court. But here's what's cracking in Gills Arena today. James Harden planning on playing through a right thumb fracture. How will the injury impact his game moving forward? The Bucks have been bawling in this latest stretch without the Greek freak. Will Milwaukee turn things around this season? Yanna is supposed to be coming back very soon. And Connipo is putting together one of the most efficient offensive seasons in league history.

but is it good enough to snatch the rookie of the year from Cooper Flag? But before we get into all that, as always, this episode is presented by Underdog in honor of Slovenian Jesus, Luca Donchik, passing up a game winning shot. Underdog is giving away $100 for every three-pointer Luca attempts tonight. Shout out to the folks that Underdog. Just repost the link in our chat. Follow Underdog and Underdog NBA, and you'll be entered in the bonus cash giveaway. Once again, follow Underdog.

and Underdog NBA, and you'll be entered. It'll be bonus cash giveaway. You've got to repost a link in the chat as well to qualify $100 for every three-point attempt that Luca Doncha takes tonight in the Lakers game. And as always, if you can't watch the show live with us on YouTube, we have audio versions available on Apple, Spotify, wherever you get your podcast from. So we're going to start this show in Cleveland before we get to some other situations

that we need to address. Can we start in L.A.? You want to start it in L.A.? It's trashd is, bro. Huh? It tries, bro. No, no, yeah, speaking to chat, I don't know if you're being, like,

like you, you fighting, because like I see, you just finished working out from fighting. Okay, you my guy, right? You see Blueface? Hey, man, you see how you look? Yeah, like you see how he look, right? Like, he's fighting real boxers, getting hurt in real life,

and he is, going through that. So if he he's getting hit by real boxers today I didn't worry about getting out of hands. Okay. Just give me. The son's back today.

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throwing a flat you're going to get that's damn time you're not going to waste my time for motherfuck three four months you got you all 12 all right I want a buggin' this chick yeah I ain't gonna lie it looked like he was having

he had real hands over there dog I'm just going to he got a fight he got another fight coming up that's why he's fighting in March that's why so March then May Yeah. So he's not worried about you. Okay.

Yeah. All right, well, let's get to some basketball. That's, that's all. He cut the real fight, you know, and that's like highlights. Like the YouTubers, they be showing all their highlights and not they misses. Have you ever seen a hoot? A YouTuber really hooped, they'd be ads, but then you see they post ads. They're like, damn, even when they do all that at the gym.

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Cabsman won a hotest team's league since January 1st, second best record in the NBA in that time frame, including a seven-game winning streak to start February, with five of those coming after acquiring James Hardin from the Clippers for Darius Garland. But Cleveland got some bad news after their 15-point win over the next Tuesday night, with Hardin suffering a non-displaced fracture of his right thumb. Hardin-up with the hand specials Wednesday will not require surgery and plans to play through the injury,

just managed the pain. He was out of the lineup Wednesday for the second night of a back-to-back against the Bucks in Milwaukee, along with Donovan Mitchell and Evan Mowley, as the Cavs took an L. Cleveland, 6-1 with Hardin in the lineup since the trade, with the beard average in 19 points, 8-assist, 5 rebounds.

So before getting traded, he was putting up 25 points, 8-assists, and 5 rebounds in 44 games with the Clippers this season. Gil, how much will a thumb fracture to his non-shooting hand impact Hardin moving forward? Um, it all depends on where, where is it located, exactly. But, you know, it's not going to affect the shooting, but it will affect that when he tries to drive little knick-knacks here and there.

So I'm pretty sure they're going to have to wrap it tight. You're going to have to take pain medicine for, especially go to the playoffs, right? And you're going to have guys that's going to hit it on purpose, right? That's what that is. So, um, there's going to be some swings in the game. where he's just going to have to use his left hand a lot more than he usually does, right? So you're going to know where he's going and just stopping him from getting there. But as long as it's not affecting his shooting, he should have an impact.

Let's move on to you, Mr. B, fellow lefty. How will the right thumb fracture and his non-shooting and impact hardened moving forward? I mean, to me, it depends on, you know, what type of brace he put on it also. You know, it depends on, you know, his being able to put. pass the ball. I mean, he is left-handed, so that'll be fine. But like Gil said, you know, in the playoffs, you know, teams, team goals are going to be trying to find ways to get James Harden out the game and it's going to be aimed at his thumb. But, you know, it's, if he's going to play through it, you know, he ain't going to have no excuses. So, you know, hey, just keep going.

So no excuse, right thumb fracture, whatever it may be. If he's out on the court, you expect to see the still level of the same level of James Harden that we've seen since the time of Cleveland started. I mean, just a level enough to be. be out there to compete and good enough of them to, you know, be contenders still. Why are they, why is he trying to play through it? Are they trying to get the number one seed or something? They could potentially, I think, probably get as close as two during a heated battle right now. Tide for third or no, excuse me, fourth place right now.

That's the thing I'm going to be. A game and a half behind the Celtics, but, you know, seven games behind the pissings for the one spot. So one unlikely, but two very much in play. It's still a great team. Yeah, it's still a great team. I'll still let it heal get ready for the playoffs. You still Cleveland.

You don't want to play them in the playoffs with a healthy games. The team they have, Donovan Mitchell, Mobley, they're still going to be a threat. You don't want to see them in the seven-game series. So I rest a little bit. You're not young no more. You ain't got nothing to prove to the people that say you don't play through injuries and give up and stuff.

I let it heal and come back and get like that last push for the playoff, for sure. I don't know why you're trying to play through it right now. Like I said, did sit out second night of back-to-back Wednesday against the Bucks. I'm sure they will try to manage the injuries best as possible. I can see him missing some more games down the road. Cabs got about 22 games left in the season

as they try to make this playoff push. But last one, not least, let's move on to Dr. McCants. Ph.D. A good doctor. What do you think about James Hardin deciding to play through his right thumb fracture for the rest of this season? I think he would have to. I mean, the last thing you would want for him to do is to not play,

to be injured, to come out from that situation with the Clippers, asking out to go to the Cleveland Cavaliers and to be hurt and not to be a part of that assurgeons that they're trying to go into the playoff with. I think that playing through it just shows that you can play through injury. You can play hurt, especially at a severity. is a fracture. I think essentially he's going to have to fit in

knowing that he's not going to be able to go to all of his shit that gives him an advantage against the other defenders. His dribbling, going into his shot making is going to be different. His bounce passes are going to be different. His lob passes, especially on the thumb. The thumb is the toughest spot.

Man. When you're talking about holding the ball in your hand, getting it from the, You're getting from your guy hand to your shooting hand and being able to have effectively what that guy hand does to the shooting ability when you're talking about being effective. So it could be a detriment to the Cleveland Cavaliers. He might go into his being a minus in that situation.

How good is he going to be as a defender being able to play injured and be hurt with that right hand and not give up points based on it being, you know, him, Joelle and being it. every other possession grimacing and trying to be like, damn, that shit hurt, especially if they're going to attack the actual hands. So I think I'm on both sides of the fence with it. I think he should play through it. But also it could be a detriment to the team, especially the fact that they brought him in

and he asked for it. So it's on both sides for me. Well, we're also a point to Nick's point, they do have Jenna Schroeder over there. So, you know what I'm saying? And he, and, you know, he's showing what he can do also when he gets his opportunity. So James sitting out, you know, kind of don't hurt either because Dennis Schroeder is a guy that can play in those big moments for me. Like, you can sit out for a week or two. You don't have to jump right back into it.

Like, what is two weeks really going to do? Like, how much are you really missing in two weeks? The letter heal. You're not really healing. The thing with fractures is, is either you, you're not. break it all the way and you heal or you play through it and it ain't never going to heal. So for him, but he's taking the process of we're going to play through it and we'll fix it at the end of the season due to surgery.

I mean, I think Sean Bay went through the same type of shit when he had foot surgery. It was like it would be better for you to break it than to play through it because it's going to be painful. Yeah. According to report is Hardin met with a hand specialist. He underwent MRIs, all that stuff. met with a hand specialist, Wednesday said that surgery would not be required.

Obviously, rest would be the best way to heal it. But I don't think, yeah, but there is a potential now if he keeps playing on it, that it becomes worse. And now we're in a situation where obviously over the offseason, he's going to have to address it. I had that. See that? Sabonis had the same injury, right?

Sabonis, I think Sabonis had it in 2001. He played through it. He averaged in 20 and something. So we'll see. The Cavs have a tough stretch of games coming up, two of their next three against the pistons. They play the pissons on Friday. Then again, on Tuesday, got the nets in between that on Sunday.

But then they got a stretch of five days where they don't play. They don't play again until the eighth. So they play on the third, don't play again until the eighth. So there will be a little time for him to, yeah, I know. I think he's going to manage. I think he's in the managers hang how 76ers wins and losses are. I think he's in, I think he wants to play 76ers in the first. from.

So he would try to get the three. If they're sitting at seven, if they go to five, he's going to go to four. Right? So I think he's going to pick and choose games depending on, you know,

where that record is because I think he has paid back to Philly. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. I can see that. Yeah.

And there's also, Cab's got stretches of games coming up very, very ass. schedule. They got the math twice. They got a stretch where they play the math twice, the bucks, bulls, and hornets. Yeah, you know. We'll talk about it.

Who's not asked? What's your son? We were going to talk about it. I'm not fully convinced yet, but I'm talking about the Cleveland Cavaliers right now. So a manageable stretch of games where they can win, like you mentioned, they got Schrooter, they got people that can fill in the void for them against that level of competition, still get dubs, still stay in the playoff race. But as you guys, as former hoopers,

obviously playing through injury, playing through, pain. Do you respect James Harden for trying to step up and keep going shot? Like you mentioned, there is potential that it has a negative effect, negative ramification. If he's trying to do this, he's not good enough to go. And now worse is that injury. But do you guys all respect him for at least trying to go out there and give it a go? Well, I said, even with what I said about dwell and being giving it a go at the end of that season and helping that team have a little bit of hoping getting into playoffs and all that

kind of team. when your leader or one of your leaders is on the on the on the on the on the squad he's trying to push through injury it helps the morale of the team you know a 70% james hard and is better than a 100% dean way so i think that when you when you got guys that could step up and say i'm a fight through this just so we feel good about me being on the floor you guys got my back but i still do something good which is passing he still got that left hand he can still pass um and he still still still optimistic. I think that's the best thing. He don't want to miss out on this opportunity of sitting out and not being a part of their run, of trying to actually get there, make a real search in the Eats

to get to the second or the first spot. Sure. They do got a good chance to be really good this year. But did you say D-Wa? 100% D-D-Way. D-Way. Oh, what I was a say, a player for the Cleveland?

Kavily Luggy. Harder made the playoffs. In each of the first 16th season in those careers, looks like it's going to be 17, obviously, barring some catastrophic. But looking at this Cavs squad, fourth in the east right now, like I said, two games behind the Celtics for the second spot. The second spot have the best offensive rating in the league

this month. I've been playing very, very well, have the second best record in the league since January 1st. Does Adding increase the Cavs chances of making their first Eastern Conference final since 2018. Yes, I mean, as long as he's healthy enough to be out there, right? A hand injury and a leg injury is two different injuries. You know, if you got knee problems, you got ankle problems, foot toe problems,

that affects you moving, keeping up with people, right? Jumping, dunking, driving, right? So that is more detrimental to, you know, a team versus, you know, your offhand, right? You know, we know how to protect our hands. You know, we've jammed fingers. We sprained wrists. Like, you know, we can still play a full game. I can still chase my man around or get by somebody and make, I can still play at least

100% of my legwork and just, you know, maybe 50, 75%. Right? It stops me from going right, but I can still pass, shoot, do flow. I can still, you know, win games. It's hard to win games when you, you're lower part. Your lower part is, you know, 50%. Right? So as long as he manages the pain, you know, take care of it, you know, ice it,

wrap it, you know, I don't know if we will see a big drop from him offensively. No. Unless they're just talking. Unless they're just targeting it. But we've hurt our wrist, our off-risk. I mean, if you're a dunker and you jump, you don't hurt this plenty of time to the point where it's, you know, too sort of playing.

You just go left-hand that game. So to the fact that he's strong hand, he's fine. Brandon, they never did that, though. What? No, not my wrist. But the ballishes on the fingers. Fingers, though, for sure. Blitzers on the fingers.

You're seeing the wrist on a ring him like y'all be able. I got blisters now on my fingers still. Yeah, blisters on the wrist. That's your mother shit. I know. Oh, my God. Um. Awkward moment of silence here on Gilles, virtual arena.

Presenting by our own. Whoa. So, shot, Cavs haven't made the Eastern Conference finals since 2018. Obviously, made the finals that you're having advanced past the second round. Since then, obviously, Donovan Mitchell has that stigma around his career

of not being able to do that despite all of this playoff appearances. But when you look at this Cavs Squad heading into this postseason, like we talked about all year, a weaker Eastern conference, Pistons is going to take the top spot, two was up for grabs. Do you think this Cavs squad has enough with the addition to Hardin to make the Eastern Conference Finals for the first time just 2018?

Well, you've got to look at the logistics of what stopped them last year, what stopped them the year before that. Injury has been always the thing that's plagued them. So DeAndre Hunter and Mowgli being out last year, having a lingering Darius Garland on and off the floor. The only guy that's been consistent has been Donovan Mitchell and Jared Allen. So you're looking at these two guys as your backbone. James has already suffered an injury.

You got Keon Ellis, you got Dennis Schroeder as your guys who came in for DeAndre Hunter, who was a defender, who was a guy, you know, 2D guy that can really go out and affect the game in many different ways. I think having these two smaller guards affects them because now they don't have the versatility. Do you have to defend, depend on a guy like Dean Wade and the young fellow number 20, I can't remember his name that's been playing well for them. But it's one of those things now where it's always been injury. You've got to hope now that they can stay healthy to see if they could keep this thing going right now.

That's really what I look at. I don't think Donovan Mitchell's game has changed any a bit for what. where we're going to see like he's going to turn it up a notch. He's going to be consistent. I think Jared Alice is going to be as consistent as you get him the ball. So if James is not getting him the ball like he has been in the last eight games, seven, eight games where he's been very effective, he's been upbeat, he's been rebounding. I think the team is going to go as far as they've went in the last three years,

the last four years. And getting back to the Eastern Conference finals right now, I don't think the East is, week. I think the East has been right now at this point, surging upward. I think like I said before, the Sixers looking a lot better in the second half of the season. Boston looking good. New York starting to get their shit together. I mean, Charlotte, they own the surge. They looking kind of scary for anybody to come in there. I think they can win. Milwaukee's starting to turn it around second half of the season. Orlando's starting to look a little bit different now. They're trying to creep around. I mean, if you're really

watching the games, you can see that the East is really trying to compete and change that narrative that is weak. So Cleveland got to get their shit together because it's not going to be no cakewalk. Do you? Do you think Cleveland got a team that could win the

championship, really? Listen, Cleveland, yeah. They've got everything that can match with O KC from one through five. They got a star, two star players down there, three.

They got half court and fast break offense. They could slow it down with James Hardin. They can roll. They got defenders in Mobley that can do both. Block shots, score. They got a bench for strode. If they click at the right moment, I think Cleveland got a chance to make it to the final for sure.

Cleveland definitely have a chance. Man. I mean, off the fact that you're adding James Hardin. Yeah. Because when Donovan Mitchell used to come off and Mobley, you know, they really didn't have anybody to come off to actually keep them going. I think just adding them to. And then you add in Dennis Schroeder.

He's a dog. And he likes to, you know, he shows up in big time moments. And like I said before, when you add James Hardin with Donovan Mitchell, it makes Donovan Mitchell a number one option on the championship team. I'm going to ask you, Mr. B, that now that, you know, the addition of Hardin makes you believe that Donovan Mitchell can be the number one option on the championship team. Yeah, some more health. Yeah, he's got more help, and he has more leverage to go out and do what he wants.

You finally giving him his respect. No. Yeah, I saw him win now. Joe, when you said, I guess the stigma around Donovan is, what was that again? Just, you know, not being able to advance far in the postseason. Is that his fault? Or is that the... I never heard of it.

Because when you're talking about him, he performs in the playoffs. When you're talking about the U.S. Caz, well, they have a defensive player at a year on his team, but they take him out in the playoffs, which that right there hurts your team. So you're playing a handicapped playoff game because you can't play one of your best defenders because everybody's going small. So when you're talking about him really winning in the playoffs,

when did he really have that chance? Last year, when they do have a team, two years, they're getting hurt. The supporting cast is getting hurt. When he was with Utah, the second best player on the floor is not playing crucial minutes. That is really hard

to really win And if you can't, you know, play your full roster when it counts because as a coach, you're making coach decisions because you're trying to keep up offensively, which is, you know, the chess game of, you know, the playoffs. So I can't say that he hasn't done everything he needed to do to get there. I think it's equal. It's equal blame because we blame other players who have gotten there without their team being in full health.

They've had to carry and never really, you know, Kevin Durant. He's been one of those guys the last four or five years, Yonnis, the last four or five years, M.B. Even with James and with M.B. Just piggybacking on what y'all was just saying about him being with James. He was with M.B. He didn't get it done. He was with Kauai.

He didn't get it done. And he didn't get it done because everybody didn't show up healthy every year. And if you are performing at a level, at some point, you need to start overperforming. You need to start doing more. And that's based on you not knowing whether or not guys are going to show. show up in play or not. I think that's usually the mentality of understanding. Like, all right, this is what we got.

We hear me in the playoffs. These guys might not last. I can't give you 12. I can't give you 22. I got to give you 45. I got to get you 50. He did. And it still wasn't enough.

So at this point, you still have the same situation that you've been in based on unreliable players coming to the table. But if you're the leader, you're going to get blamed for not getting there. You got to get blamed just because it's on your ship. It's on your watch. You got to get your troops ready to go. And if they ain't ready, man, you got to know what comes with that. I remember Jim and Jamal Murray had the best bubble.

Yeah, because also you got to think, I mean, so you got to think a guy like Kay, you got to think a guy like motherfucking Jalen Brown. That's leading 18. So if they get there farther than he does this year, I mean, shit, that's why the conversations are happening. Because you got guys like, another. number two option that goes to number one and don't let Boston get there. You got to see it, though. It ain't happening now.

I know about to say, no, I say if what if that does happen? Then what? That's why the conversations have been happening about Jonathan Mitchell. And you look at Houston, right? Say Houston don't make it to where they're supposed to make it to. You can attribute that to Frey Van Bleet not being healthy. Stephen Adams going down. No.

Yes. Yeah. You know who's getting to blame, no. You know who's getting the board. Yeah. So KD is ultimately going to be the guy like, damn, you should have did more. But, you know, he went to a team that was a number two team in the West. There's other guys that look at it like, man, what more do you want me to do?

I'm showing up. I'm being consistent. My guys are going down. But that's a part of the game. We blame Katie and Phoenix. Wait, so, wait, hold on. Y'all are trying to use the same logic on the defensive player a year on your team

and this is how y'all made it to the playoff he's your defensive stopper their coach not playing in the fourth quarter ain't playing though he stops everybody

and them losing games because they can't stop anybody you're using an excuse of someone not being there the whole season like if Fred ain't been there the whole season and someone stepped up in his part. We're talking,

we've never built the defense without Rudy. Right? That's just like right now, going into the playoffs, spurs, and then in the fourth quarter, they don't play Wemby, ever.

And then you blame Fox for not winning series because they're getting outscored in the fourth quarter. It would, though. Very different, it's a very different thing. That's a different conversation because Wimby's an offensive threat.

Rudy Gobert is not. So Rudy Gaubert is being used defensively. So it's just like taking Jared Allard out of the game because they're playing small. But they're not going to do that based on Utah was Utah. It was even a different game back then where Rudy just didn't know where he fit in. And the coach didn't know what the fuck he was doing. That was coaching. So you look now, it's like, all right, Cleveland, what are you going to do if they play small?

Are you going to stay big? Who are you going to sub in? Is that going to be your excuse for losing if you do lose? These are hypotheticals at the end of the day. When you say the friend of them. They lost the clippers, right? Most of them. You just said exactly what I was saying, right?

His Utah stint, you just said it's due to coaching. So that doesn't have anything to do with him because coaching decided to put smaller players in. So that means we can only then judge him for his Cleveland stint. And his Cleveland stand, he's been getting hurt. So, you know. to the original point. But have you heard this about?

But like you said, Gil, the injuries were issued. Donovan Mitchell? Not getting it done? I already haven't heard too much about Donovan Mitchell, not getting it done. I mean, we've discussed it in Gil's Arena presented by underdog in previous season. There hasn't been an expectation for him to get it done.

Yeah. So you can't say we have a... That's what I'm saying. Because a lot of people don't believe he's the number one option. I mean, I don't think it's a number one option. about being number one. I think it's just about being in Cleveland. Cleveland is not a place where if you're not LeBron

James, you're going to take them to the mountain top, especially if the East is strong and you got real competition. I thought that was more of a narrative. Like if Donovan Mitchell are number one option on the championship team, I thought that was more of a conversation than him not getting

it done in the playoffs. That was a conversation for Brunson and Donovan Mitchell. I think both of them surpassed the fact that they can be contenders, right? They took their team to be contenders, both of them. But making it to the championship caliber up here, they haven't done that yet.

But I think they're both number one options. Brunton obviously elevated his stature taking the Knicks at Easter Conference Finals last year, first time in 25 seasons. DeMitch playing in the shadow of obviously LeBron. You got Jalen Tyson, who you mentioned earlier shot, saying this is Donovan Mitchell City now. What are you going to do with it now? I think there's just a narrative was they're not number one options on a championship team.

That's what I thought it was. That was it. Not if they're number one option. Everybody, if you're the number one option on your team, you're the number one option on your team. Being a number one option on a championship team was the narrative. And that was what everybody was. Yeah. Well, that means you got to make a run in the playoffs right to get to that level of championship team.

Do you have, are you a number one option? on a championship team. So that means when the season's over with, you are the number one option, and y'all are champions? That's what it is. Not, are you good? You can get to the second round.

You can get to the championship. Are you, are you Isaiah Thomas? Are you, Steph Curry, when y'all win the championship being a small guard? That was the narrative.

So if they were, if they were, if they were improving yet. It hasn't been proven yet, But if you think about the logic of that narrative, the hypothetical of them making it to the championship game and winning the championship game, there ain't nobody else on their teams that is going to be a number one option over them. And there ain't nobody that they're going to bring in is going to supersede them as the number one option. Even James Harden. He's the number two option.

So it was, the narrative wouldn't even make sense that they, they're not number one options on championship teams, even if they got there. What? I'm sorry. It's saying like if you bring in a number one option. So James Hardin coming over there. No, James Hardin coming over is the reason why Donovan Mitchell is a number one option on the championship team to me. But before that, before that, before that, before James Harton. and got there, he was still the number one option, right?

Yeah, that's what he said. But regardless of what you're saying, Jalen Brunson and Jonathan Mitchell going to be number one options if they get the hypothetical. If they get to the championship, if they win the championship, they would still be number one options. Yeah.

Okay, okay. I get what you're saying. That's what you're saying. Yeah, that's the problem. Like, they would be. But you got to win, but there's only one. If in none of the conversations, The conversation was

I know. They be the number one option on a championship team, right? All this extra shit that you're thought. There's only two players in the last 30, 40 years that are small guards that have won championships being the number one option. Isaiah Thomas, Steph Curry, right? That was what the conversation was about.

That's it. So so far, since whoever said it, they are correct so far. I said it. And if you wanted them to win a championship as the number one option. Wait, wait, so what is she considered it, though? What is she considered it? What is she considered it, though? Six-seven guard.

He's not six-seven, but he's a little bard, though. Not a little, but he's not a big guard. He's like six-four or six-five. He's not, he's not step little, but he's a little guard, though. He's six, seven. He's not little, Nick. He's not my height. He's not my height.

And he doesn't look like, he don't look like me and what. He don't look like, hell, no, stop, stop. You didn't think Elijah was bigger than you, too. Y'all stood next week, John. He just looked like Elijah and me out there. He looked literal, so stop. He do not look hard height out there. He looks skinny, and he looks like an AI type out there.

When they say, he's listed at 6, Joe, you're saying it's six. Six, six, six, not a point-old. He's like six-five, six-five, for sure. Let's not get off, let's not get off topic, though. Let's not get off topic, because the hypothetical is it hasn't happened yet. We don't know. The people made the narrative based on, it's only been two guards prior to,

so we know that it has happened. It's not that it can't happen. It's just that we need to wait and see if they get there, can these two guys lead their team to the championship and erase the narrative. Right now, the narrative is placed on them based on their hype and based on the history. So I'm always going to roll with the possibilities.

Possibility is it's happened before. It's happened twice before. So all they need to do is get there and see if those guys will take them over the top. So a small girl would be considered, what, 6-3 and under, 6-200? Yes, that's 6-3. Yeah, 6-3-under usually the criteria for a small girl.

All right, well, let's keep this thing moving on this glorious Thursday. So, Sean, I see you in the doctor's outfit. Obviously, we got some things that we need to discuss. On Tuesday show, you address some comments made by Darren Williams on a recent episode of Out the Mud. So for context, you have Zebo and Tony Allen at Gills Crip for the Larry's Arena episode. Have a great relationship with both in them. That wasn't on the right. All right.

So Wednesday on the To the Baja show, which is also part of the same network as Out of of the mud. Raymond felt and Charlie Villan away with Theo Pinton and Darren Williams, lengthy segment clapping back at you, I believe, over 25 minutes long. I caught some of the clips was not able to watch all of it. I'm making my Little League managerial debut today, so I had other things I was focused on. But the thumbnail for that clip called you a delusional clown. And like I said, they proceeded to go out you for about 20 minutes. So before you respond, I just like to mention this isn't the first time your name has come up on their show as the top three video clips on the to the Baha YouTube channel are all about you.

So, Shah, what's your response to the Baja crew trying to come for you? Well, for one, I've been, I've been called Delusion no more than once in the last couple years. So me being DeLulu and being a clown and being lame and all that shit is normal for me. That's why I went into the medical field and became a doctor so I could start getting a little bit surgical with the shit that I do in. say, you know, I had to bring the book out because it's dried up and I still got some shit to say, you know, chapter 78, book of Stop Fucking with me or you're going to die. All right. You're a die. Wait, are you a die?

So, at the end of the day, man, it's obvious that people don't like me. A lot of people don't like one. And it's obvious that I've had teammates that don't like me. Most of the teams I play on somebody on the team don't fucking like me. But DeWill, I need to tell the people that there are lies and you've got to go fact-check the lies. Dee Will said he never played against me except for in the National Championship game. But you can go look at it up. We played freshman year, Illinois, sophomore year, Illinois, and junior year, Illinois. We played three times in college.

And unfortunately enough for him, he went to Nike, camp when we're all counselors and he went to Jordan camp when we were counselors. That's where he got his ass with. That's when he was following me around when we were smoking weed and shit in the dorms and shit. Only a certain amount of people can understand what's going on. At the Jordan camp, yeah, I remember that

Jordan shit. Yeah, Santa Barbara. Yeah, Santa Barbara. He was there. He was there. Darren was always one of them dudes that was tag along, man. He ended up having a good junior year and he ducked all the point guards in the draft.

to end up running into Ray, unfortunately. And he was talking shit because, I mean, I don't like to go on race. I ever race smash him in the workout. So it was like he was all right. We had just whooped his ass. So it's like, damn, man, you go sit on a nigga couch

after we just whipped them niggas ass and you're going to corroborate some other shit because you don't like me. That's cool. That's one. The sick nigga, the fat nigga, the ugly nigga, I mean. No, you can't keep saying that.

Y'all got to. y'all got to figure out how to use the algorithm to your benefit because it's best to use it for the growth of your show, right? So don't go playing victim. Don't run now. Don't run now. We ain't in surgery yet. We're just lining it up.

This is the appointment. This is the consultation, right? So at the end of the day, the ducking and the smoke and all that shit, it don't make no sense. You know, Raymond ended up saying some shit saying it was my hamstring, you know. Y'all got to start fact checking. Like, how's all these things coming up, bro? All of a sudden, yeah, he was hurt. What if he was?

Well, maybe he was. All right, cool. Maybe he was sick. But you're pushing these narratives based on somebody going around in this industry, making me look bad. I don't know who it is, man. But whoever it is, you can shoot me, but you can't kill me, man.

Well, you dunked on the nigga, almost threw up on him? Almost threw up. He missed me by inch. I went straight to the goddamn crash cam right there. Ugh. Ugh. Damn.

Ain't nobody can really cook, you know, ain't nobody can refute what I meant before I got to the motherfucking league. Man, nobody can fucking with me. So I don't even know why niggas act like it's something different Like niggas can bring up their

NBA careers, congratulations, bro but I ain't, my shit was I had an expectation though. I had an expectation though. I had an expectation. When a nigga got an expectation is different. It's different than you don't got no expectation. You creep up and oh, surprise, yeah.

When a nigga got an expectation to do some shit, it's disappointment. Everybody disappointed in me. So I get it. I get it. I get it. But shout out to everybody's been sending me all the screenshots and shit that everybody's been saying. And finding out, man, how niggas really move out here. I appreciate that.

Shout out the underdog for the opportunity. Jeremy Levine, Liam, Roe Klein, Tim Livingston, all y'all. Shout out, man. I appreciate y'all giving us the platform to give other niggas platforms to eat off of our content for the years of years we've been doing this shit. So, you know, as surgical as I got a gift for niggas, please keep them coming. Please keep it coming. Please keep it coming.

Keep it coming. Because I got more jokes for the skinny nigger, the fat nigger, and the ugly nigger, the fat nigga and the sick nigger. I got plenty of jokes. Y'all want to keep it coming. Keep on. Keep on. No.

You can't keep on. No. No, no, no, not that. No, it's not that. No. So what, so where's the thing? does it stand now? So is it like, because, because Dee Will said that you can come to his boxing thing. Yeah.

So, hey look, hey look, hey look, check this out. See, see, I know all three of y'all sit on the same seats. So if y'all want to egg the shit on, that's cool. We're asking a question. I already know y'all niggas don't got respect. But if I'm letting you know, but if these niggas want to do something, they're going to do something. I don't think nobody want to do something with me. No, I don't think. I don't think, I know. That's not real. Just talk. No, he said he has a gym.

Yeah, I get, he got a gym. I get that. I get that. Okay. So, all that shit don't, all that shit don't mean nothing to me. But you get in the ring with the thing will. I don't, none of that shit mean nothing to me. But you said the gloves was off.

Yeah, I know what I said, but it don't mean nothing to me. But they feel like the gloves is off. Yeah. I know what they feel like. They can feel whatever the fuck they want to feel. I'm the, I'm the doctor. They're getting performed on right now. So you want to get in the seat with them, you can put your legs in the bag, too.

I want to see you get in the ring. I know what you can do. So why don't you get in, hey, if niggas want to see me getting the ring, getting the ring with me. That's not what we're asking. We're asking these questions that they're asking. Nah, y'all don't need you to ask me questions they ask them, my nigga. That means you on their side. I don't need a third part.

No, I heard their questions. I heard they questions. I heard you get in the ring with Diggil if you want to fight. Okay. My nigga, I already said what I said. Hey, hey, leave it alone. I get it. I'm a quitter.

I'm a quitter, so I get in the ring with whoever. I said, he said he got a ring after I said, hey, what's up? I said what's up. Niggas say, what's up? All I'm saying is, it sounds like they're trying to take it personal more than basketball. That's all of us. That's cool. All right, okay.

Anybody know me, know that's a bad idea. All right. Oh, nigger. I started this shit. Nick, who you mean? Double-dits and had Chloe on the moment. What, what the niggas had? Those niggas had no Chloe.

It's a bad idea, man. Just keep it, keep it podcast. This podcast shit getting out of hand with this goofy-ass lame shit, niggas be on. We're supposed to be talking who. Let's talk hoop. Get off this lame-ass, gossipy-ass bullshit.

Niggas is on. You knickers is fucking lame. You're talking about clown shit. Nigger, get the fuck out of here. Man, I'm a real nigga, man. Stop it. Tell us. And that far as no.

Well, Sean, obviously, we're here at Gilles Arena. You're a vital part, vital member of the Gilles Arena family. Wanted to give you an opportunity on our platform to address what was said on their platform. I appreciate it, man. Even though it was a little bit restricted, everybody else got to get their shit off. But it's always a problem when I'm trying to get my shit off. Toothones and the motherfucking chat. We are here.

We are in the motherfucking chat, man. We were saying. Soulstones in the motherfucking chat. I want you to see you get your shit off. Is it obvious? That's what the thing is. We're here. Shit.

You want you to get your shit off. Is it obvious, man? You've been like on some grown shit? I'm a less shit sly. I ain't get these niggas no attention. I want you to get your shit off, though. I'm glad you, I'm glad you said that. That means you know I've been saving these niggins.

All right. That's going with you. I want you to drop this nigga. It's all good. Swagg. I knew you would have said yesterday I'm acquitted to. It's cool. Wow.

I was watching. I was watching yesterday, Sway. I was watching. I was watching, Swede. On some corner shit? I was watching. I was watching. I was watching.

I was watching. I was watching. You were the troll to. You were the troll too. You were the troll too. It's all good. That's the L.A. That's that L.A. shit, but I'm still fucking L.A.

Niggas can't quit, my niggas. We come too far. We can't. We can't. We come too far. No, that's why it don't make sense. That's why I don't make no sense. It don't make no sense.

It don't make no sense. Okay. I'm just, just, just so we know. Just so if this ever brings up again, I know I'm a troll. And just about three and a half minutes ago, he said again, I'm a quitter. So if he asked me in the future,

is he a quitter? I will have three examples. examples already. No, you just got one. One example. The only thing I quit on is a bitch. That's the only thing you need to know. That's the only thing.

That's the only thing I quit on. The only thing I quit on is a bitch. That's the only thing you need to know. Okay, cool. Take that narrative and run with anything else. Anything else we already know. Like I said, two stones in the chat. Look, and go ahead.

Joe, move to the next thing, man. Everything has been discussed and exposed. We already know where everybody's staying. And then you Swaggy, you quit too, right? You quit on the boxing. You quit on the Air Force. So don't ask me,

because the example of the man is right there. I mess up all the time. I mess up all the time. I'm not going to, if y'all don't want to, if y'all don't want to get certain people, I never quitting a one-on-one. You're quitting one-on-one.

Are you a Dr. Covorkian or you're just a regular-ass doctor? That's all we want to know. You're going to know. I'm Dr. Hannibal Lack. my nigga. You know who animal lecturers? Hey, man. No Hannibal lecturers. Hey, man. Hey, man. Hey, man, can we move on? Hey, can we move on? Hey, can we just move on, man?

No. No. Ain't never talk about. We ain't getting no answer. So ain't never talk about it. Your response wasn't good enough. Hey, fuck, we ain't getting one. All I know is, all I know is, them niggas sound personal. Them niggas sound personal. And I, and I, and that's, when I get on goddamn stella, that's what I do. No, let's move on. You're kidding with Dr. Hainting. You are king, Kavorgian.

Get to kill it. Nah, let's move on. Let's move on. Let's move on. He said we against him. Let's move on. Don't even ask no questions no more. Let's move on.

It's over. Before we do move on, we ask the chat, is it obvious? Who's a sick movie? 65% of the chat say yes, for shot. It is obvious. Who's a sick man? Swagging. You can do your own research, all that information readily available out there on the interwebs.

But like I said, Shall wanted to give you the opportunity in this platform. What is going to have to tell me? I'll come at you. All you do is come at me and my kids. I got on the internet. I mean, I got a guy up to having. So. Hey, man, you're murdering. Hey, I ain't going to show though. Hey, I ain't going to. What are the last thing that came for me and Brandon locked up? The last nigga that came for me and Brandon,

he can't come back here no more. No, it's not even, no, it's not even, it's not even, it's not. You know what I'm talking about? Nah. They ain't never replaced him for Jason Williams. They said, fuck it. We're going to bring another white man up here. Nah, now, he got off.

He got off. He got off. He got off. He got off. He did YouTube like this for the last two years. He got off. He got off. They got Joe Williams.

They got James Williams. They got James Williams. I made YouTube the radio for that man. Yeah, you see that? We don't know who it is at this point. I don't know who it is because I don't know I can't see their face. I just know they can't go on their YouTube channel

with their face every day. Okay? I see niggas to jail. That's what I do. I snitch. Oh, man. Damn. All right, what else we got?

Hey, man. He said he ain't going to pay for the tab, and this what the fuck we're coming with today? Hmm? He's Charlie Mnovemberg, I don't want to eat with the nigger because I got to pay for the tab. This is what we coming with today, McCain?

You know what? You got the NBC CA down today. Oh, good, man. I didn't want to make it uncomfortable. I just wanted to be comfortable. It's the National Basketball Corner Association. You're on a fucking... I know CV is serious.

I know what. I know... You're a CEO. So I know that sickness shit. See, he ain't playing around with. That's all I know. So I just, that's what I said. I never said he was sick.

Well, Is he sick? I don't know. From his words, it sounds like he said he was going to be talking to. It sounds like from your words, my name is never sure. No, no, no, it sound like from his words what he said yesterday. He said, niggas, we had to watch out talking about a niggas sicknesses. Because that's some personal shit and that it can get to another level.

That's why I said, I hope it ain't, I mean, hey, that's what he said. I appreciate you being a messenger, my nigga. Okay. Well, as we come to the conclusion of Black History Month, I hope we can all move forward and move on from this. Like I said, we don't have to address this again on this show. But I felt an important shot.

Obviously, you brought it up Tuesday to end our show. I would hope niggas stop bringing my name, but I would really hope. Is there a possibility where all your North Carolina's to come together and be friends again? We was never friends, bro. But still, you teammates, like, If they wanted to do like a championship reunion from y'all year, would you show up? Nah.

Damn. You don't think at any point shot down the road. Like, even my, you know, what's good word? Bro, listen. Bro, did you hear what they were saying yesterday? This shit is personal. Stop all the shit. They want to get personal.

It ain't even about hoop no more. So I don't know what the fuck going to have. Hey, I'm used to. I'm used to be a niggas four old one. That shit is weak, though. I used to be niggas four-on-one all the time, my nigga. I'm not, niggas,

hey, if they all want to come, hey, I can beat them all at once. That shit is weak, that's whatever. That shit is weak, though. They did not say they want to get personal. They said they're going to leave the personal and just talk basketball. This is all basketball. That's what they said, Gil.

Yeah. So that means Brandon just making some shit up. No, he said, if we're going to get personal, if we're going to take the personal jabs. If we're going to take the personal jabs, we can take it there. So he's trying to figure out. who's the sickness that he's trying to talk about.

That's what he's saying. Because if he's talking about his condition, you got a problem with that. One thing is this, and, you know, I've been YouTube battling for a long time. They're not going to stop, right? So this response

is going to get another response. So that means they're going to probably interview another person. I would hope not. Hey, man. It's about getting drafted. This is the consultation. This is not.

surgery. Drive workouts is about getting drafted. I'm not about to work out with a nigga. I feel like

I'm better than like, hey man, just being about to get drafted off me. I don't go for what they

talking about. This has nothing to do with us. This is all about the 05. So I don't know. Realistically, if you're working

out with a nigga that's supposed to get drafted in the 20s, why am I working? I'm supposed to get drafted top five.

Why am I working out with the nigga in the first place? Realistically. I'm not going to read talking about some

shit that that supposedly happened 20 years ago. This is 20 years ago, bro. What are we doing? Talk about what we're doing now. What am I doing now? Am I running the motherfucking numbers up or what? Is it tombstones in the tap?

Like, for me, I can't wait for work out against Corey Brewer. Cory Brewer's ranked higher than me in the draft. It was top five. I was top shit, eight through 15. I couldn't wait to work out against Corey Brewer because he was one and I was two. I knew if I see him, I would. Same shit. Before we move on, Swaggy,

I'm not about to work out. This nigga, Nick, what the fucking workout for him for? Take my goddamn spot. I'm already ranked higher than a nigga. So, like, before we move on, a producer asked if you could pronounce Charlie Villan away of his name one more time for it. Okay, thank.

All right, well, let's keep this thing moving. So we're not going to be talking about this Tuesday because, no, no, no, no, it's over, bro. It's over. He'll be dead by Tuesday. It is over. Probably be going to kill it,

Nicky by Tuesday. No, no, chill out, chill out, chill out, chill out, chill out. Chill out. You have a response, right? It's over. Okay. What I'm saying is this is considered a response. Right?

Everybody don't respond like you, Brandon, stop. And then after they hear this response, they're going to come with another response, right? And that, that response is going to be within these days. So I'm saying when we come on Tuesday, after they respond, and most likely they're going to just bring another motherfucker up there to confirm

the fucking workouts. So if you're not trying to body bag or body bag them all now, potential body bags, a girlfriend on a body bag. If you're not willing to go down the route of putting people to sleep today, I don't want to be here next week

talking about what they didn't talk about. Yeah, because they bring a Hodg's on next week. It's all good, man. I appreciate it. You said it's done. Hey, look. Hey, look, I appreciate, I appreciate, I appreciate. Hey, yo, I appreciate you giving me the script that they've given you to tell me what they're going to do.

So I'm going to prepare for that. First of all, that's your, I don't know them. They already brought one person on. It's over. I don't know, man. It's over, bro. It sounds like the screenshots I got. It's over, bro.

It's over. You didn't get no screen shots for me. I didn't say you. I didn't say you. I said this three shots I got about what they're going to do next. I'm done with you attacking us, but when them niggas is talking, you don't attack them. Who is us? Who is attacking y'all?

Y'all are supposed to be on my team. You're supposed to be on my team. How am I attacking y'all? You're attacking us like, we're the motherfuckers. How am I attacking y'all? Y'all are supposed to be on my team. I know each one I came, Hey, Nick, do you feel the attack right now, Nick?

Nick, do you feel attack right now? 2005 drag. Hey, do you feel attack? You don't feel attack? Josiah. Do you feel the attack? I'm merely hushed, as you know. Brandon, you feel the attack, bro?

No. Brandon, you don't feel attack? You did? So it's only one nigga that feel the tag. No, bro. Just let it. I just feel like me. The same dude.

Only one nigga feel attack. The same nigg is sitting around the whole. thing, though. I don't feel like we tap dancing around the whole thing. We are. We are. We are. And I don't like it. Yeah. Let's just move on. Every time. This is the consultation, man. Every time you get attacked, we get attacked from you. Everybody's playing victim. Everybody's playing victim. Everybody shouldn't play victim. I wasn't anybody should play victim when I show up to do surgery. If you tell me, hey, you want the BBL. You wanted the BBL.

One out of time, please, fellas. One out of time, please. Come on you. We're on the virtual Zoom. Nugges can't hear. It's five nigs talking. Nobody can hear anything. If I round it up for a reason.

You tell us the script. And you listen, what about to happen. I need y'all to boom, boom. Then when you come on here and you get to doing this, boom, we can do it. But we don't know nothing. So when we... They all should shut the fuck up and listen. You shouldn't be talking and saying a goddamn thing.

You should just sit there and fucking. Listen, why the fuck his niggas talking and you don't know shit? Sit there, watch the show, and then be ready to move on in, but that ain't what happened, did it? Mone fuckers, can't wait to say some shit. Go against some shit.

Where are some of me? We're asking questions. It wasn't on a rundown. I didn't even know what you was doing. You asked me a question first. I asked everybody a question. You asked me the question first. No, I didn't.

I asked everybody the question. You was the first to respond. We got it on film, man. And it had nothing to do with you, nigga. It didn't have nothing to do. You asked me a question, and off of my experience with you,

I answered. That's cool. We got the answer. Nick, move on. Let's talk about, you keep throwing shots at us like we did something of you.

I ain't throwing shots at nobody. Your motherfucker's from God has said this. Go at them. God damn. I ain't saying shots at nobody, man. You can get to me of this. Hey, I ain't. I ain't throwing shots of nobody, man.

I'm cool and collect. I have to do, I have to go to surgery soon. I have to go into surgery. Now our chat talking about we land. The lame shit is the niggas. That's true. That's true. So y'all should have said, y'all should have came in with me.

Y'all should have came in with me on the lame shit with they on. Y'all should have been like, Yeah, them niggas on some lame shit. Fuck them, niggins. That ain't how it went, though. We? You are. You said you went to...

I had a word you fight. They know the topic. They're talking about. My answer was before the topic. Come on, man. Y'all stop playing with me, man. No, Sire. What's up?

Bro, let's go to the next shit. As you know, let the four be yours, gentlemen. That's part of my... Yeah. Please, because I don't like being involved in Walsh. Yeah. As we close out black history, my name is washed.

Let's start. Best for us to move on. Like I said, should I want to give you this platform? Now we will get back to current and pertinent basketball topics going around.

I'm sorry, you're one of my favorite people in the world, bro. I appreciate you for the opportunity. Get washed and wash. Hey, let's never talk about beef on this show.

No, no, for real. Don't. No, whatever that's never. Because every time they do it. Yeah. I'm, like,

for real, like, I don't want to talk about shit out. I mean, they bring our ratings down. They bring their ratings up. We come down. Hey, hey, Josiah. Hey, Josiah.

Sound like y'all are quitting. Don't quit. Hey, Josiah. Hey, Josiah. Everybody good in the NBA. Everybody good in the NBA. Nobody got to work on nothing. Everybody good.

Everybody positive. Sure. Listen. You know, we don't get a question. I get what you do. No. No. He brings the shuttle for us.

He came for the body bag. I did. I did. I did. I did. I did. You're going to wear the fucking mask on her. That room.

I was ready. Hey, I was ready. I was ready. You know, no. I'm out of town working. I'm out of town working. I'm out of town working. I was ready.

I was ready. Can't you tell I'm out of town working, man? I thought I was ready for that game. I have another job because I don't know how secure my job here. I thought he's going to tell D. Will, I'm coming down. Let's get in the ring. I thought everything. You thought wrong.

You thought wrong. Then the niggas start coming for us. I said, you know, y'all niggas thought wrong, man. I ain't know why. I was ready for the mask and everything. You thought wrong, man. That's just that you know y'all niggas don't know me. I guess.

I mean, if somebody said the gloves is off, the gloves is off. Where's cemetery there? If that was me talking shit, oh, I know the, the math for the game and everything. I don't care. I don't care if I get body back. I'm a still, I'm a cemetery there with somebody's bitch right now. Leave him alone. Bring him, can you bring him to you?

No, man. He don't like to be bothered. He don't like to be bothered why he worked. He don't like to be bother while he worked. Hey, Nick, I don't care if I can't be body. I'll still be talking. If you won't cemetery area to shop on Tuesday, can you put the casket or the deaf something, something that resembles bad.

I don't like this doctor shit. This is too corporate. Please. Shout out the underdog, man. I appreciate the opportunity. You sit on the board, bro. as a board member of the corner niggins, you post all the shit we go through.

Underdog has a great Luca Donagio promo right now for everybody who missed it earlier in the show. $100 for every three that Luca attempts in the Lakers game tonight. Just make sure you follow Underdog, Underdog NBA. Now let's move on to some basketball. We fucking lost today. I believe this is our last show of Black History.

We were making some Black History as we speak on this show today. What happened? That's why there's no winner or losers in life. No. Yeah, we lost that. We lost today. We lost the battle, but we ain't going to lose the war. The last day of blackhist.

The last day of black history. The last year. We lost the battle for show. They got us arguing with each other. We lost the battle for show. We got, we're a nigga. It's over. We got sick, nigger, fat, nigga, what an ugly nigga?

Yeah, they won this one. We lost today. Yeah. It's over. Let's keep this thing moving. I do not agree with that assessment. I feel like we do. talked about the situation.

We addressed. We addressed. Come on, man. This shit getting lame, bro. Let's get on to the sports shit, bro. Let's move on to Mr.

B's favorite topic. Janus ended up. Yonah's future with the bucks remains uncertain as a team. You reach all that. As a team fielded, trade offers before the deadline. But also,

again, not pull the trigger on any of them. I'm sorry. If you was going to do it at the end. The end of what? The show. Yeah. I feel like that was in.

At the end. I'm sweating. I'm ready for war. Like, I'm, I'm activated now. Are you, are you questioning my elite? I'm on my second quarter. I'm on my second floor. I'm activated now.

Are you questioning my elite, well-respected? Like, right now, I'm ready to, we activate it. That was the, to keep you activated for the remainder of the show with these great NBA topics that we have to discuss on another glorious day of Gil's virtual arena until we get our studio locked down ready to go, laser jump. Now, are we good? No. Because y'all don't know what I'd be doing.

My heart rate is good. I think we're good. All right. My heart rate is good. Chad, are we good? How's the Chad, family? A shout out to everybody who pulled up to support the show. They're ready to hear some hoop talk, man.

I think they're ready to hear some hoop talk. Go ahead and hit that like button for us. I'm trying to see something real quick. I'm trying to see if you guys are really rolling with Gills Arena, dedicated to Gills Arena, whether in the studio or virtual. If you really appreciate all that we've been doing over these last three years, we just celebrated our three-year anniversary earlier this week. We did?

We did, Gil. How many? Virtually. I sent you guys all cupcakes. I hope you got it. Where was that celebration at? Virtually. It was on the interwebs, the dark web, Gil, as we call it.

When was the third year? I believe February 22nd, 23rd, I believe, if I'm not mistaken. It's 20th. We didn't start, did we start on the 20th? Is it off where we again. I thought we started on the 22nd. Either way, hold on. Let me pull up the calendar.

It's been such a glorious ride, babe. Time flies when you're having fun. Hold on one second. Yeah. Did we start on that? I thought we started on the Tuesday, but maybe we're on 21st. So February 21st, ladies and gentlemen, shout out to everybody.

This crew, look at we built number one daily sports show on YouTube. Now let's get back into some basketball. Let's talk a little bit about what's going on in Milwaukee. Like I said, Janus' Future with the Bucks remains uncertain team. filled the trade offers before the deadline, but ultimately did not pull the trigger on any of them to keep the two-time MVP in Milwaukee for at least the remainder of the season.

Yonis made it clear he wants to be in a position to compete for championships, but with the Bucks currently 11th in the east and Yon is out while recovering from a calf strain that likely will not happen this season. But Milwaukee is still is trying to make a push in this home stretch of season to make the playoffs. But during a recent exclusive interview

with a Greek TV station, Cosmo, TV, Yonis made some interesting comments that could potentially be a cause of concern for the bucks. Let us look at those comments. He said, I don't know if I'll leave. It's not up to me. If it was up to me, maybe I already would have left. In a year and a half, when I become a free agent at 32,

it will be up to me. Janice also repeated that he feels loved New Milwaukee and would never request a trade. A Greek freak is eligible to sign a four-year $275 million contract extension on October 1st. Mr. B, if you're the Bucks, How are you feeling about the comments that Yannis made? He's done several interviews.

These teams have bounced back and forth. I love Milwaukee. I want to stay Milwaukee. I want to compete for championships. I won't request the trade, but if it's up to me, when I can't dip, I will dip. I mean, to me, for the Bucks, I mean, they've done everything they could. I mean, they're a small market team. So, you know, you win and got, you know, Bud, you won a championship.

You got the coach that, you know, he wanted, fired him. you got Dane and you got the players that you wanted. So, I mean, from Milwaukee to everything that they've tried to do, like I said, in the small market, they've done everything. So I think at this point, you know, you would just kind of just want to kind of like a direct answer at this point. Kind of feel like that at this point because now it's just lingering on. And with the way the bucks are planned, I know it's not probably a championship year. It won't be a championship year this year, but you got to start planning for the future and what's next. So speaking of that planning for the future,

go like we said, Janice eligible to sign in this extension October first. I think that'll indicate a lot of what's going on. Like I mentioned, he'll be a free agent potentially in the summer of 2027. So if you're the bucks,

how are you feeling about these comments, Janus, saying that I don't know if I leave. It's not up to me. Maybe I would have already left if it was up to me. I'm still coming down from... No, stay. I need that energy right where it is, sir.

Basically, he's saying, and trade me this summer because when I'm a free agent, the choice is mine, and you're not going to get anything back for me. So that's what those comments are. But I'm pretty sure the bucks know that already. Very well stated, you know what? We're just going to just, they should just kick that motherfucker out the building.

How about that? You want to do all the end, those outdoors? You want to do the all end or outdoors, talking to the little Greek things. All right, we're going to trade your ass tomorrow. Let's just get the fuck off the test.

I mean, just, come on. Somebody got to do something now. Okay? I don't want to eat. Besides, obviously, free agent, he's going to leave. That means you got to make the move. I don't care if you don't want to make.

You got to make the move because he said, hey, I'm about to be out. So most likely this summer, you're going to have to do it. Because when he's a pre-agent, he's going to do it. He's going to put himself in a position where he gets to win championships. And that's not here. It's going to be somewhere else. So your hand is forced.

So you're going to have to pull the trigger. Yeah. The right is on the wall. You know what I mean? That's. Yeah. to do it before October 1st. You have up to the trade deadline

27 to do something, but I think the longer you wait and once it becomes clear that he's not coming back, other teams are just going to try to strong arm you, and I feel like those I don't know if you're going to get the return you want. It's clear. It's clear that he wants to win a championship. So if your

intentions as an organization is not to spend the money on winning a championship, you have to trade him. to get something back if you want something back. Right? If you think you're going to just keep putting a little bit of pieces here to think, to pretend that you're trying to win a championship.

That's not going to work anymore for you. No, no. But he got to tiptoeing around the answer. He acting like Rashad right now. You got to give me something to fight back with you. Like, you tiptoeing around the fucking question. Be as direct with the motherfucker. Like, let us fight with you.

If you want to leave, motherfucker, okay, your ass out of here. If you want to win, let us fucking know. like we want us to fight with you say some shit for me we can fight with you but if you tiptoe around this shit we don't know what the fuck going on same shit is fucking out

more shots more shots from the team base more shots from niggas is on your side same shit like yonis talking around the trade shit like god damn they let us no art do you want to get traded all right we're going we're going to trade your ass get it

yeah I think that's fair yeah I think that's fair like let us No, no, just so straight. No. But fucking be direct. I think, I think that's how the Bucks, the Bucks fans are probably just wondering now. Yeah.

You know, like if you're going, you know, just if you're going to do it yes or no. All right. So would you do it before? Like I said, they have until October 1st. That means you got to wait for the whole summer. The Bucs are three, the Bucs are three games back from eight.

There are three games back from nine, four games. five games back from eight. 30, what is it, 30-some games left? You got like 20, a little bit over 20, I believe. They got a chance. A little bit over 20. So, I mean, let's just say they end the year,

we're into playing and they make the playoffs. They end up playing the Pistons or the Celtics. Does Yonnas want to go somewhere after that when they could potentially build on to that? So 25 games left for the bucks. Yonah should be coming back in the next couple games. They're 8 and 2. They're eight and two in their last 10.

Mm-hmm. You know, they could make a run. They could make a good, nice run. Nice little run to get back in the playoffs and show some promise with what they have right now. What they have is not much for a championship team. Of course it's not. But if they get some pieces in the summer to their piece,

Yon is cool. If not, they're going into rebuilding and Yonis is going into rebuilding. So to me, I think he should wait and figure out. what they do by the end of the season. Don't jump the gun. This team can make it to the second round for sure. So here's the other part of that that's problematic though, right? Like, if you're the Bucs...

This team can make it to the second round. If they don't run into Pistons or Boston, if they play it, our class. Well, that one of those three teams would likely be their opponents. But here's the deal. Bucks don't have a ton of cap flexibility. They do have their draft pick.

So it would behoove them to follow the tank. trend that other teams are to try to get a top five, top side six pick in the draft, but unlikely because Yonis said when he's coming back, he's playing hard. The team, like you said, trending in the right direction, eight and two. So now they're going to get stuck in that no man's land where they make the playoffs. Could potentially get to the second round, but this is not a championship caliber roster that Yonis has right now. Okay, can I ask you all this something?

They're eight and two without them, right? Mm-hmm. When he comes back, they play a different style. and they're rejecting him, right? Remember, he's complaining about they won't pass the ball around. They passing the ball around to each other, right? They're doing it for each other. So we can say, hey, when he comes back, we're going to, boop.

But I don't know if the, if from the comments earlier, from how they were playing, the reason they're then, he was there. They wasn't playing for him. they're playing for themselves now so I don't know how you're going to the playoff adding the piece

that they kind of like stop listening to stop playing horror for right we haven't heard we haven't heard none of those since right not from the coaches that have not from if you wouldn't have said they was fucking 8 and 2

a lot of people won't know because it's been so quiet there they've just been winning and playing You know, so, you know, that's, that's the one thing that, you know, might be shaky. And if he comes back and then they drop four, obviously, you know, those players are going to be looking at him like, come on, bro. Take a back seat. So, I don't know. If they play Detroit, you think it wouldn't be a good series?

You don't think so? But Yonis versus K? Like, in the playoffs? I think Detroit's too physical for them. But Yonis is a half-court. No, no, no. He's a full court player. He's a full court play.

I don't know. But they got, but. I don't know. I'm going to just put both of them strong dudes on Yannis and just keep body in Yonis and then make everybody have to go. On paper, Yonis got a lot of talent. Like, a lot of people that could get buckets on this team. From Coos to Cam to Porter, like, they could put the ball in the hole.

If they go in there, of confidence and they, you know, these type of players go be high when we're making shots. If they're going to be making shots, their confidence? I don't know. That could change that whole thing. I'm getting fucking 30.

I mean, I mean, Detroit, Detroit got a lot of confidence too now. Shit, she got a lot. They only got one guy that can fill it up like that. Nah, no, no, they're feeling that shit from last year with the Knicks when they lost. They got a lot of vengeance over there, bro. Like, I don't think a lot of people want to see them first round.

You got to be careful with Detroit. Detroit, Spurs, them little, them, be careful. Anybody that's been number one stuff for Boston and the East thing in their ass with, boy, first round of playoffs. Be careful. Asking for that heat in that first round with them boys. So Mr. B, as it's shaping your number shot, like you mentioned, I think bucks five and a half games, behind the six for the 60, just one game behind the Hornets for the final playing.

spot. So there is some potential wiggle room they go on to run. Like we mentioned, Janus, expected to return soon, said he's going to play hard when he does come back. Team was 3 and 11 without Janus early in the season when he was dealing with calf trains and other injuries. He's missed 13 games. They're 8 and 5 in those 13, 8 and 2 in the last 10 of those. So like we said, really trending in the positive direction. See some solid play as of late from Kevin Porter Jr. Ryan Rollins. And recent acquisition, Cam Thomas was averaging like 15 to 19 minutes per game. That's why you, like you mentioned, did his thing as well. Has Doc Rivers giving them comparisons to Jamal Crawford, Lou Will.

But been there for seven games. Mr. B., how confident and optimistic are you that the Bucks can turn things around and become a playoff team, not a playing team, but a team that can get to a seven-game series in the Eastern Conference playoff? I think because the East is playing well in the way Charlotte and everybody still playing because they're fighting. You've got Atlanta over there with Kaminga and all those young guys. It's going to be tough. I can definitely see them in the playing game.

they might be able to get to six, but I'm definitely confident that they can be in the playing game and then we can see what happens from there. Are you confident in this Buc Squad? Obviously, your family in Milwaukee still has not heard from you. For you to come to a playoff game. Right now, these guys are playing like the backs against the walls. Nobody believe in them.

And I know that feeling. So I like what they're doing. As long as they got confidence, I feel like, They could be anybody with them with them type of guys they got that could fill it up, that could create score from any level. They're going to be dangerous, man. They're going to shock some people more than people think, I feel like.

Dr. McCants. I've seen your dad dunk at 72. That's crazy. Nothing to do with this. He was a former Milwaukee, but he still dunked he at 70. I was watching the game, and they just showed him, Crishaw. Yeah. Promoting his book, The Crenshaw.

Chronicles coming. So shout out to Marcus Johnson. People still don't realize that's my dad. We have the same last name, same gap tooth. He got veneers, though. But let's move on to Dr. McCann. I've seen that, seen that. I did film it for all those who are curious.

Exquisite filming as well, multi-touns it. But Dr. McCannes, you said the Hornets, you have more faith in the Hornets and the Bucks to start this season. That is proven to be correct. But now how much faith do you have in the Bucks moving forward with this young crew coming together? Yonis now trying to acclimate himself. Guild, like you pointed out, Janice made comments previously,

like these dudes weren't moving to rock around, weren't giving him a respect that he deserves two-time MVP, but you think the Bucks can turn this around and get back to the playoffs? I think the acquisition of Cam Thomas put a battery in Rollins back, it put a battery in Kevin Porter Jr.'s back. I think it was able to, you know, challenge them all to come out there and show more grit, more aggressiveness towards being able to give Yonis some type of but hope if he does come back, like, let's turn it around a little bit.

I think Bobby even out there playing a little bit different. Cool's out there playing different. Big Boy Sims out there playing different. You know, they're out there running around. Yeah, they're out there running around. And just like the, just like the Horn is when you start figuring it out the second half of the season, it's just about being consistent with who you play and how you play. And I think Doc Rivers still fucking with the minutes with Cam Thomas has got him

still a little fuck the way to. trying to figure out what his place is. 20 minutes a game off the bench is tough when you come off of 34 and 25 minutes and you know that if I played a little bit longer, when I get it going, I'm going to be able to get it going. So seeing his minutes. Yeah, his minutes is a little bit different. As I've been seeing the last two games anyway,

but Rollins and Kevin Porter have been playing very well. So it's kind of difficult to try to figure out how to play all. three of them and they do the same thing. So I can understand that side as well. As long as they winning, I think that's what they're looking at. As long as we're winning games, the guys who we brought in are doing well. And so Cam is the new guy. You got to get in where you fit in at this point. When Yonis comes back, I know the perception is that they don't really fuck with him like that, but I think him watching the new way of how they play is not going to come in and give it to me and let's go back to the way we was going. I think it's going to be a let me figure

out how they're playing well right now. And let me fit into how they're playing well right now. Let's see what they're doing successful. Let me inject how I can inject how I do what I do, running, blocking, dunking, picking slides, all those different things can help them, especially on the defense event. I think that's the best part. Last one at least, Mr. Gilbert J. Arenas, the namesake of Gilson, I'm a underdog Woo-Woot.

What was the question? Do you think the bucks can turn things around and make the playoffs? I mean, you have a shot if, you know, you can get into a playing game at 10. What, five, three games out of five games out of three games, five games out of eight spot. So four games out the eighth spot, five games out the seven spot. Five wins, four games, four wins, five wins out of the eighth spot. Yeah, your five wins out of the eighth spot. So you're competing for 10th to try to, you know,

realistically, you're sitting at 11th right now, 20-something games left. Your best player is not here. And you guys, it's not like when you left, you guys had this rhythm of playing with each other. So then you have to get a rhythm, try to get into the 10th night spot to then try to get into the eighth spot

to then play the first round. I don't, I personally don't see no hope of moving forward, you know, making this a great playoff run, right? You're, it's really a big uphill battle, right? When, when they were in eighth spot playing against Miami and all that, we, we did feel confident because Janus was, was that dominant and the team was that dominant, but, you know, he ended up getting hurt. But the fact that this team is still trying to figure who they are, then you got to try

to get into 10th or 9th, then fight that game. Well, you got to win twice? Yeah, as the 10th or 9th, you'd have to win two games to get the 8th seat. Yeah, so you got to win two games, then play the 8th seat. Like, you don't have no rest. And then, Yonnas got to last the whole first round. Right, so, like, what are we really talking about? If they can sneak to the 8th seed, though, Gil, they can potentially get that 7th spot.

Now you're talking about the Celtics, Bucks, potential word bucks, nicks, cabs is one of those. If they can get to the eighth seed. Yeah. five wins and it already losses because you can't take off you can get wins you can't take losses so there are three losses behind yeah but there are 25 games left too though but your best players not here

eight eight and two the last 10 games without your best player yeah I'm just I got to agree with you I got to agree with you because we just beat the calves right they didn't they didn't even have their star players and we lost to a Toronto team that was healthy by 28 so I'm just saying who we got like no No, I know, but I'm saying, we just beat the Cavs yesterday by one,

and they didn't even have they start players. And we're five games out of eighth, and the teams ahead of us. But those schedule is not like the worst, it's not that hard coming up. But we're, but we're loose. Yeah, you talk twice. Okay. They're still, they're playing well. But you're playing better.

You should be able to beat you, Utah. Got a young, you got a young Atlanta, I think twice. Atlanta's still in a hunt. Atlanta's in a hunt. Bucks have one of the weaker Remainting the schedule I think they're 22nd 20 second in the league right now

Yeah Take that for whatever you want to take that for But you should be able to win Majority of them games If you're really trying to make the playoff But there's teams ahead of them That's still trying to win too But you just heard

They got one of the weakest Last Okay I don't know I think I Sharla's trying to make the playoffs Zalana is trying to make the playoffs the landon trying to make the playoffs.

Miami don't want to leave. I don't want to leave. I mean, you know, you're trying to then jump into that. Then you got to battle with them to then get east. To then play against Detroit to get beat up the whole round. Like this, even if they make the playoffs, they're not going anywhere. Yeah, it was just making a playoffs with that group. A brute team.

Like, if you're playing against a finesse team, you're playing against a team that's going to put you in a half court and beat on you the whole. they're going to beat on you the whole match. As this team, you wouldn't have to win. They played a Furness team like Indiana. But that don't get them confidence just making the playoffs, some guys that don't, like,

look don't be talking about them. They're making the playoffs, man, I don't know. I'm pretty sure whoever played the Bulls and it was in the eight spot, they was happy to make the playoffs. Then you got to face the Bull. It was like, making the playoffs is cool. Then you got to play the first place.

But I think about it. First place. Like, that's shit. And not the worst thing in the world for the bucks to not make the playoffs go into the lottery either, though. So that's what I'm saying. It probably would be better for them to do that and now get this draft pick and hopefully try and grab somebody to persuade Janus to stay around. But let's keep this thing moving. We will keep it in the Eastern Conference.

Ricky the year race, heated battle between former Duke roommates and teammates, Cooper Flagg and Khan Knapple. Flag is currently the heavy betting favorite, but Khan the Don making a compelling case by putting together one of the most efficient, defensive seasons in league history. Let's take a look at some of his numbers. Canipo averaging 19 points, five of rebounds, and four assists in 58 games this season, 49, 49, splits, looking to become just the 16th player in NBA history and first rookie to join the 50, 40, 90 club. Knappel already passed step for the most games by rookie in NBA history with 20 points

on 50, 4090 splits. Also, the fastest player in the league to make 100 and 203 pointers with 201-3 so far this season. on the verge of smashing Keegan Murray's rookie record of 206, which took Murray 80 games to accomplish. So, Gil, we'll start with you. Are you surprised by Connoisse's success in his rookie season? No, I mean, if you watched Duke last year, I mean, there was points where, you know,

you kind of thought he was the best player on the team, right into, you know, Cooper flag caught his footing. I think those first, like, 20 games of his college career, He didn't have double digits like four or five times and four of those times, or three of those times was blowout. They blew teams out so he didn't really get to play much. So you can tell he was very, very good. You know, just like any rookie, you got to get to the right situation for you to show your talent

before you get, you know, hit with the veteran that's going to, you know, tell you, you ain't shit, pass the ball, and you're confident. So the fact that he wants to be confident. So the fact that he went to a young team that needed another player that can put the ball on the basket, he gets to shine, you know, today. Right. Like we see Shepard, right? He said for a couple of years, now he's playing how he looked in college, you know. So it takes some time for, you know, a skilled guy, talented guy to get his footing, but he got his early.

So the person who is competing with him in college, the two, you know, teammates are who is the best player, now they're both fighting. for, you know, that same trophy, which is cool. So, Mr. B, let's move on to you. Concanipal, Milwaukee native, a longtime Bucks fan. He didn't know nothing about him until, yeah, until I saw all this. But, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, what, what? Oh, no, I, it's real like, his facts, right? I mean, no, I, he knows about you, Mr. B, and then, and, no, but the fact that he's playing well and his numbers are, I'm looking at his numbers right now.

I mean, from his numbers, it kind of remind me of when Mello and LeBron was going at a little bit. It's just that his, it's just that his name isn't loud enough to where everybody, you know, is paying attention to him. Sure. But no, that's, that's actually, that's really dope. Like, I didn't even know that, that it was that close between the rookies. So, Swag, you surprised at all by Con Cinnibble's success with the horses? No, I like what he's doing. He's stepping up.

He's making all of them play. He's definitely making Lonzo play. I like that. I mean, not Lonzo. Mello played. Mello can't. Called him Mello. I appreciate you.

Yeah, mellow playing well because of it, you know. And he's playing well because of Mello. He's really, like, Cooper Flagg is the focal point of Dallas. But in the Hornets, you know, you still got to think about Mello and them other guys, but he's still playing. well off of everybody here putting up the numbers he's doing. I like it. Fit right in.

Changing what we think about, you know, the Charlotte Hornets right now. Last but not least, Dr. McCants, been a big advocate for the Hornets very early on heading into this season. Are you surprised at all by Concanibble success in his rookie year? Oh, not at all. I think I would consider Concanibble success. something like a Clay Thompson, but a better facilitator. I think he handles the ball a little bit better.

He makes better decisions and finding an open man. He's an all-around player. And given his background, his family, and his knowledge of the game, he's shown even on a bad team early on that he can get and adjust and be able to be efficient as he has been. Playing this long side Brandon Miller and the mellow ball allows him to really stretch to Florida with his abilities. He gets to showcase a lot of his abilities that we would have never been able to

seen if he was on another team. Average in a 20 game as a rookie, we ain't seen that since Mello and Brian. So you're looking at a guy that went under the radar, essentially did what he did with Duke went under the radar at Duke. I thought he was the best player on Duke's team. That's why I didn't give a lot of praise to Cooper because he wasn't really the best player on that team. I thought Khan Knappa was the best player on that team,

but he had the most potential on that team. That's the one thing Cooper did have over him. And I think as a player, he's been able to show that them two together on Duke made it very difficult for anybody that was playing in the ACC. And now that they've, you know, shit, Cooper had 49. And I think I can't remember how much Khan had that day. Like 33 or something.

Something like that. So being able to showcase their talent against each other. and con's been consistent the whole year, and he's been a contributor in their resurgence and the turnaround that they've had. And it's good to see. It's good basketball that he plays, even on a team that's not talented as, you know,

the top team. You can see the talent. You can see his intellect, and I love it. All right, well, let's shift it forward. Like you mentioned, like I said earlier, Cooper Flagg, Conchonibble, both were at Duke last season, roommates, teammates. Flag's still the favorite to win rookie of the year,

but let's compare flagging Canipo's numbers this season, just so we can see what it looks like for the squares that will be tasked with voting for rookie of the year. So flags averaging 20.7 rebounds, four assists, 1.2 steals, nearly a block while shooting 48% from the field, 30 from 3, 80% from the free throw line. In 34.1 minutes per game, he's played 49 games this season. Canipo averaging 19, five rebounds, four assists, nearly a steel shooting 50% from the field,

44 from 3, 89 from the free throw line in 32 minutes per game. He's played 58 games this season. I know you don't care about team records factoring into the equation for individual awards, but the square media generally does. So flag and the Mavs are currently 12th in the West with the record of 21 and 36. They are 17 and 32 in games with flag. Con and the Hornets are 10th in the east with the record of 28 and 31.

They are 28 and 30 with kind in the lineup, I believe he's missed only one game this season. Con currently holding down the top spot in the NBA rookie ladder with Flagg missing the Mav's last four games with a mild foot sprain. So that explains that jump. But Gil, if the season ended today,

who's your pick for rookie of the year? I would give it to Cooper Flag. And the reason I'll give it to Cooper Flagg is because he has the pressure. Mm-hmm. of being the number one pick, the pressure of being great, the pressure of following, you know, Luca Dantage, even though that responsibility

was supposed to be for Anthony Davis. So the fact that he's out here with that much pressure, averaging 26 and 4 is the number one option. I mean, he is the focal point to, you know, stop in Dallas right now. I would say his task is a lot harder. So his 20 points is a lot harder than, you know, you be in the second or third option. But, you know, the fact that con is right there also as the third option is very impressive itself too.

So I have Cooper, you know, I have Cooper for like 50.5. Like if I have to do it today, I would say Cooper by 0.5 of my vote. by 0.5 of your vote. Let's move on to flag. But, I mean, third option, average 19 is, that's fucking impressive, too. I would say the same thing. I have a cup of flag. Just because he is the focal point, the defense is designed to stop him.

Hey, man, with bets. And it's harder to come in with bets than with younger players to get discouraged very fast. They tell you to pass the ball. You're thinking. too much, came in with the pressure of trying to be a point guard, changing this game, and still was able to overcome all that.

Averaging 26 and full, nipple, you know, get a chance to, the focal point is on mellow, then you try to go Miller, then him, but it's still impressive. Hey man.

What'd you say? Oh, yeah, it's still impressive. I'll go Cooper Flat, you know. just for this. For what nipple is doing? It's doing perfectly. Kankinnipple. Now known as Nipple in Gills Virtue's

virtual arena, presented by the Nod. Mr. B, let's move on to yourself. Can I still see me? We can see you, we can hear you. Oh, all right.

You were shown up twice. If you could pick a rookie of the year at this moment, season ended today, who is your rookie of the year between Kahn Kinniple and Cooper Flag? I'm going to definitely have to go with Cooper Flag. But, I mean, his numbers,

I mean, I didn't even know the kid numbers was like that. I mean, like I said before, it reminds me of this Mello and LeBron thing. You know, LeBron was just way more popular, but Mello also was putting up numbers and his team got to the playoffs too. So, you know, it's just one of those things, but, you know, I would just say Cooper Flagg. Last one at least, Dr. McCants, season ended today. Who will be your pick for Ricky Dia. Well, given what Gil said about Concanibble being the third option averages, or 19.

I believe Khan's trajectory is a lot harder. Being able to do what he's doing almost 50, 40, 90. Having them on a wind street being the third option and not the first option. So to me it's the hypothetical of imagine what he would

do if he was the only person on his team type shit. I believe the consistency is there. He's been consistent. He's been very consistent. He hasn't had an explosive game like a 49 to take him and bump him up. I think that 49, that streak that Cooper had for the three, four games really helps his average to make it look like a contest. But I see that Concanibble has just been very, very, very consistent with him with his role.

He hasn't really tried to exceed his position. He's not trying to go to number one spot or number two spot. he knows what he does well for the team. He shoots the lights out. He makes the right place. And a lot of people said that Mello deserved that rookie of the year award back then, given the fact that they were able to go further. And Mello was fucking rookie of the week or rookie of the month for the whole season,

I believe. I think he won all of those Rookie of the Month awards, I think, a week or a month, I think. But given that, I don't think they should make the same mistake twice just based on the number one pick situation. I think just give it a fair assessment, look at both sides. I think it's both warrants, but I'm going with Khan. Kind of nothing.

If the voting, the voting. Was it Damon's Domain's daughter, Meyer? No, Jason Kear. Jason Kear. No, they're been in Damon after that then. Yeah, they've been after that. I'm going to say they can do cold. Niggins, people won't be mad at that.

I want to say, potentially, Elton, Branson, Steve, Francis, but let me double show. Well, they did do cold. Ah. Ah. Yeah, they were cold. Yep. If you want to do that, people wouldn't be mad at that.

But I don't know. I think, you know, I think who was like to be like. I wouldn't be mad at it, but, you know. I wouldn't be mad at it, for sure. I wouldn't be mad at it. All right, well, let's keep this thing moving to our last topic of the week. Before we had out been a very productive day here in Gills Arena, a lot of things discussed, a lot of things addressed. Let's talk about tanking.

Tanking, nothing new for the NBA. Oh, man. Several of the league's bottom feeders already in the midst of a boarding wins. Tanky, Swaggy? What do you want to do you like to endoswereena? We tanked already. Gills Rina, never tanking. We always, no minute's restriction, always go out there and play regardless.

Give our all. try to get wins. Compete for championships. We never want to be in the lottery. But tanking nothing new for the NBA, several of the league's bottom feeders already in the midst of avoiding win, as this year's draft expected to be one of the strongest in recent memory. Adam Silver and the league are trying to crack down on the obvious tanking going on

around the association. So recently, the league find the jazz and the patience to combine $600,000 related to the management of their rosters for recent games. And during this press conference, All-Star weekend, Silver said the league is, exploring every possible remedy to stop tanking while noting that tanking is worse this season than in years past. So in an effort to stop teams from deliberately tricking off games, the league has discussed some of these possible anti-tanking rule changes for next season.

You see the graphic first round picks can be protected. Only top four or top 14 lottery odds freeze at trade deadline or later. Teams can't pick top four in consecutive years and or after back-to-back bottom three finishes. teams can't pick top four the year after making conference finals. Lottery odds are based on two-year records. Lottery extended to include all playing teams and flatten odds for lottery teams. So you look at some of these potential options.

Gil, what are your thoughts on the league's potential anti-tanking rule changes for next season? I don't see any rule that stops me from losing games. Yeah. So my record. for two years straight dictates the lottery. So I'm going to just lose

for two years straight. Like, I mean, you're rewarding losing. Like, like, that's, that's the thing. Like,

imagine in school, the kids who get Fs technically get A's. Right? Like, the number one pick is a present. It is a gift. It is, you're rewarding the worst franchise with the best prospect.

So you're, so the guy who's been winning his whole life, the fact that he is in his position, you're sending him to losers. So why would I ever care about any of this when I get a present for losing? So if I got to lose for two straight years to get that, I'm going to do it. Right. If you want to penalize

tanking, then penalize it. If you come in last place, you get the 14th pick automatically. No. If you come in last place, two consecutive years, you're out of the lottery. No.

Meaning your ass don't want to be in those situations. Why are you rewarding bad teams with good players? Because that's, why would you reward a good team with good players? Like, you wouldn't see no LeBron then. No, no, you, you won't see LeBron in Cleveland, on a Cleveland thing. Thank you, but you won't see, you'll see LeBron with L.K.C. and held back. Sometimes that shit don't add.

Imagine Johnson wasn't held back. But Jim Ducking wasn't like that. It was. Once they traded, then that's when he really took off, though. When they traded the short, the guard. I can't think of his name. Or Nixon's like... They both were averaging double-digit of the mistake.

Yes. But they got really... And that don't work out. Okay. Now, again... That don't normally work out. Come on now. Okay.

So like you're saying, now if I'm the owner and I'm... LeBron James is coming in the draft, why would I want to lose? Thank you. You're trying to prevent me from trying to get that, right? Yes. So how are you going to do that? If you're going to reward... or last place or the bottom team.

A lot of people just in last place and they ain't got the talent. It don't matter if Utah right now, try their hardest or when you think they ain't going out there trying their hardest to win sometimes? No. They just ain't got the team. Utah Jazz don't have the team.

Then what did they get fined for tanking and everybody else's tanking? Because they want to be Lord than what they are. They will still be an ass team, but they probably won't be number one. They'd be like the second ass team. You can see teams are just like with Wimby. They're purposely losing for this change.

And if you want to stop that, it gets rewarded. So the team is doing that. I don't think the players are trying to lose. I don't think the players. We may them a contender now. Why wouldn't I want to lose to become a contender? Exactly. Exactly.

So if you want to stop me from doing it, you can't get me this or I'm going to keep doing it. That's what I'm saying. If you're going to get me Wendy, LeBron James, and these greats, why would why would I want to be a winning franchise until I get a few of these? So you're not going to, you're not, so none of these rules that's here stops me from losing games. But what you're saying is taking it all away. They're going to be bad.

Because they're trying to stop tanking. The only way you see. stop tanking is to not give them a reward for being sorry. So that means small market teams won't ever have a chance then. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Because these small market teams that are losing, that gives them star power. That is. Yes.

So if the Lakers in them are always winning and all these things, that means it'll be no need for small market teams. You need these teams to lose so they can. Right? Lakers will have got wimby. But they're trying to stop that. They're trying to stop it. I know what they're trying to do.

I know what they're trying to do. I know what they're trying to do. They don't want these guys to do that anymore. You're going to change the cap. That's what I think. I know what they're trying to do, but it's not. It's just like a small market. Yes, it is.

So basically, so who's that? Okay, so who's at the bottom? So what I'm saying is this. If you're, if you're Sacramento right now, like Sacramento was supposed to be a top. team in the NBA. Okay. So who said that? Everybody, like, look at the talent they have on a team.

They're in the place, right? Right, right. So they're in the lottery. You automatically get four. I mean, 14. You get penalized for being last. This is not a reward. You get 14. So you don't even get a chance to get the top three, four picks. Because if you're Sacramento, as long as you got a top five pick in this job, you're good. Because any one of them guys is a number one pick. So you get penalized for being last. If you want to penalize the bottom two, Indiana and Sanilize them both, right?

And then Brooklyn, Washington, New Orleans, Utah, Dallas, Memphis, you all have a tournament. The winner of the way off. The winner of that, you get the number one pick. But like, how are you going to stop Indiana for being in? Now imagine, imagine Memphis, Chicago, Dallas. getting the number one pick this year added to their team. They go from 11, 12, 13

to probably the playoffs. But you're not giving them to some real, real bottom feeding team. But what happens to the bottom team do you keep punishing them? Do they ever get better? Because I've been a big advocate of the way off. Like, you're just going to keep being last.

Like, they're going to mind us. They're going to have to change cities. Okay, if you're trying to stop it, what you're complaining about is what they're doing. They're saying they don't want that no more. And the rules that they put here doesn't stop me from lose.

There's nothing on that stops me from losing on purpose. You see what I'm saying? It doesn't stop me from losing on purpose. Some teams just, they ain't got the talent. I'm Utah, right? And I, because it kicks in next year. Let's say I get the number one pick, right?

Okay. And I get AJ, right? And then I know two, years from now, somebody's going to be nice. Well, obviously, it doesn't because this year's, this year record counts too. So next year record is added with this year's record, and I can

possibly get the number one or number two pick again, because my record is bad this year, too. So why wouldn't I do that? Well, you're talking to answer that last week. What I'm saying is tell me why, as the franchise, why wouldn't I do that? So I can possibly

get, AJ, this year, And next year, Tyrant Stokes. Why wouldn't I lose to have both those guys on my team? The way your system is now. So you're not stop, you won't, it doesn't stop me from doing it. There's no fine in there. There's no fine.

There's nothing. You're not deterring me from doing it. That's what I'm saying. Well, let me, let me ask, what benefit is it for the team, that do get the number one pick, how many of them have been successful? The players or the franchises? The franchises.

It's been more than 50%. I mean, you're looking at two teams now right now in the Spurs and the Pistons, right, that are both benefited dramatically from having a half season. Kate was number one? Yeah, Kate, I believe in in Wimby. So, Chiquelo, Leo.

Before that, you got... LeBron. LeBron, really. No, because you got Kyrie Howard. I'm talking about the win the championship because they ended up tanking. But no, but that's not about winning the championship, it's about profit.

You still got to think about the profit part of it, right? I'm saying, like, if we're saying that the reason why they're tanking is to get the good players for the small market teams and then those small market teams essentially going to want to be better and want to compete for something. At some point, they're going to stop trying to tank

because they got enough good players. The only team that's really, there's only a few, only a few organizations that's benefited from actually winning from doing the tanking. So small market, I mean, Philly with Allen Iverson, like you're talking about a bunch of teams that, that was good for a long time, winning the championship,

making the playoffs every year, selling out your community because you're a player. But they wasn't tanking multiple years in a row. So after Alan Iverson, the next thing they got was probably Michael Carter, right? Because I don't have to. No, that's Larry Hugh.

What do I need to take for? I got what I needed. That's what I'm saying. That's what he said. That's what he's saying. Why? Like, we need to get good. He's saying multiple, multiple tanking scenarios.

We're the owner. I'm talking from a owner. What we're thinking about right now, that is exactly what they're doing. Yes, I want to lose so I can get this player. That's why I'm losing. So I get this player. We're saying how do you stop it? Does it stop them from doing this?

And I'm saying no, it won't stop them from doing it. There's nothing to do that. It stops them on their own because if the player is good, they're going to invest on trying to make the team better. Yeah. After I get them, they're trying to stop everybody from doing it. Well, I mean, you can't stop. I don't think you can stop everybody.

Everybody's not going to be. there's why it's the standings is the standings. It's always going to be a team that's going to be trash. It's always going to be a team that's going to be good. But like at some point when you know... Think about tanking. Think about tanking.

You tank because you figure at a certain point in the season, you don't really have a chance to be winning. So you're going to take the chance to be like, all right, well, this season is out the fucking out the water. You got a chance to get this player next year. year we're not trying to be in this situation. Yes. So that's what I'm saying.

Yes. So you're saying that team that goes on, be like, damn, we ass. We're going to do it again next year. Season over. Season over. I can't get a drag. I got to just keep being asked.

You guys are saying exactly what the problem is. There comes a point in the season where you're like, well, we're asked, let's just fully be asked. They don't want you to do that anymore. So how do you, how do we stop? How do we still ask? But that's what he's saying. He's saying you still ask regardless if you're trying to be asked or not.

So I'm still going out there. I'm going to be last place. How does this stop you from having star players and you take them out on the fourth corner so purposely lose? Because your fans who are coming to the game. They're not coming to the game to see marketing. But what has a star player? Why do you think they're getting fine?

That's a star player that could change the game, like change games. You wouldn't know because they're purposely losing. But before they started purposely losing, what he's saying is they was trash. Yes. Utah was trashed before they started tanking. They were still less. I think we're confused. We're both right.

We're both right. What you two are saying, they don't want that anymore. They don't. You can't stop a team from being trash. What Nick is saying, you can't stop a trash team from being trash, regardless if they sit to players or not. Even if you played them, they y'all still going to lose regardless. Okay, okay. How about, let's try this way.

Hey, they don't want any more tanking, guys. Now, can you answer, give me a solution to stop teams from purposely losing. Go. What you said. I'm saying. take away they drive pick. That was my solution. Now, you give me yours.

Play the niggas play. Let the niggas play. And they let us see that y'all's trash. Yeah, just keep playing. AJ is the number one pick. I want him. So the players on my team, I'm going to sit them in the fourth quarter

and let sorry players play so I can try to get him. Now, what are you going to do to me for me not to do that? We're still down coming to I'm asking you, what are you going to do to me for me to stop doing that? I can't do nothing. Didn't Greg Popovic do that as called it low management?

Huh, yep. Didn't Greg Popovic take his players out and arrest them when... Like, your way, low management. Yeah. Okay, let's show you that again. The Spurs were good, though, when that happened. That's what I'm saying. So what's the difference between load managing when you're good

and load managing when you're bad. Okay, let's try this again. Okay, there's a cookie jar, right? I like the cookies. You don't want me to have the cookies, right? I keep taking the cookies. What are you going to do for me not to put my hand in the cookie jar to take the cookies that you don't want me to have?

Just take away to find them, shit. Take them all the way. Take a percentage away. Don't take away the whole draft. You're going to keep me at the bottom. What are you going to do? That's what they asked us. It's nothing you can do when you ask.

It's nothing you can do when you ask. You're just going to be asked. I ain't never seen an ass. They can tell them great. If you ask, you ask all your life. What are you going to do as the commissioner to stop them? Change the salary cap. No hard.

Yeah, change that. If you want good teams, don't put a cap. because let me be able to trade without having to pay all this money. Let me bear the trade. I'm going to say, it's not a easy, it's not an easy question to answer. Even though you gave a good answer as far as a reason or something that could alleviate it, I think it's multi-layer. I think it's a little bit deeper than that when teams can literally be at.

Like he's like he's saying, like if you trash, you trash, but if we out there, taking niggas out in the fourth quarter, you get fine. All right, you don't give a fuck about the fine. Okay. At some point, at some point, how many teams are going to be able to say fuck the fine? How many, I have a point, how many teams will be like, all right, we'll take a chance at these couple of draft picks they're going to take, I mean, it's really what you're willing to risk at that point.

Okay. Can you put the list back up there? Because I think they missed the whole point. Oh, you're saying. Put the list. Now, this list they have, does this stop you as an organization from purposely or wanting to lose games to get the number one or two pick? And is there anything on this list that stops you or wanting to stop you from it? I'm saying, what is purpose in losing if you're at?

That's what I'm saying. Look at it. Is there anything on there if you own the team and you want the number one? two, three pick. Is there anything here that actually stops you from wanting to lose? The lottery odds freeze at the trade deadline? Wouldn't there be one? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That could be one. Or I can just start losing from the beginning of the season. Yeah, I was going to say, yeah. But remember what we already said is at a certain point in the season where we're like, all right, the season is out of reach. Or, or I know there's a number one. There's tough kids coming in. I'll start losing.

So you put this in, my reaction is I'll I'll lose at the beginning of the season. We haven't seen that though. Because this rule is right in it. I'm telling you as the owner what I'm going to do. So you react. I will start the season, 0 and 15, so I don't have to worry about that.

All right. So let's be realistic. Like if you talk started off 15 and 1 in the season, you think they were to start tanking after? If I start 15 and 1, no. Yeah. All right, so that's the point he's making, bro. If you start off high, we're pretty good.

We're not trying to get him. We're trying to figure out how to keep the team good. I just said I'm going to start off 0 and 15 because this new thing says if I start off 15 and 1 at a certain point, I can't lose purposely. So to get the number one pick that I want, I'm going to start, because of this new rule, I'm going to just start the season off. Horrible. So I don't have to worry about mid-season losing

to get the Cooper flag. I'm going to be trying to get a few. Let me ask you this. Let me ask you this, then. Let me ask you this. So before AJ DeBancel started hooping, before he was projected a number one pick and they thinking that they could get him,

the team that Utah, ass had. If they didn't start out Rocky and they had a cool year with Walker Kessler's Healthy, the, oh boy, none of those guys go down. Kianti George playing good. All the stuff is going well for them.

Do you think they're actually going for AJ? If they think they got a team that can really do something. Like make the playoffs? Like make the playoffs? I think the conversation changes with YouTube. specifically with tanking games because they had enough pieces to compete. The niggas went down to change the trajectory. And it was talking about trading marketing.

Marketing was on the trading blocks and all of this shit. And then they had Ace Bailey out there. They didn't know what he was going to pan out to be. So at this point, when it all looks shaky, they're just like, all right, let's try to. AJ's playing good. Let's say AJ not playing great. Are they looking to get AJ at number one because he's a Utah kid? I mean, this is all hypothetical.

That's what I'm saying. They are hypotheticals because how do you prevent them from doing what is being done? If I have, if I have, I had a top six pick last year, I'm going to have a top six pick this year. If I trade market in this summer, I'm going to get more draft picks for the next year draft. so I can possibly get more draft picks by losing this year and next year. They need to make trades easier. How do you stop me from doing that? Making trades easier.

Making trades easier. What was your solution? What was your solution again? There's 60, there's 30-some teams number 29 and 30. You automatically, if you come in last place, you automatically, get 29 and 30, which means... So you don't qualify for the top picks. You get the 13th and 40.

You get the last two picks in the lottery. In the lottery. Which means now what type of basketball is going to be played by these teams at the end of the season? Meaning if I'm in last... Nadia. And I don't want 14. I want a chance for... So that means 12.

on up, right? No, no, no. So 29 and 30, right? You're stuck at the last two picks. That means everybody from 28 on, you guys have potential to be lottery picks. So that means Sacramento right now, they have to go out of tanking mode

and try to win games so they're not dead last. Because now you don't want to be dead last. So now I got to put these, these guys back in to start playing hard. Like, now I got to win games. So now the end of the season looks more aggressive from them bad teams because I don't want to be last. Okay.

So you said, so. I don't want to be down there now. So that's the top two or the top three teams, right, in the lottery. Want to say again? We have lost Dr. McCamp's briefly. Yeah, so what I'm saying is Sacramento, Indiana. right. These two teams get the 13th and 14th lottery pick, right?

Right? This is your penalty. So basically, so right now, Indiana, Sacramento, right? You guys get 13th and 14th. Those are your picks, right? You have no chance to get a top five pick because you're the bottom two teams. Right. Brooklyn, Washington, New Orleans, Utah, Dallas, Memphis, Chicago, Milwaukee.

You guys have a tournament at the end of, instead of having that bullshit, they have a tournament with this group of guys. Whoever wins it gets the number one pick. Whoever loses in the championship gets the number two pick of the draft. So now you have a team that sucked all year. now they got to win this to get that prize. The NBA way off. Milwaukee, somebody like Milwaukee who's in here,

now they win this championship to get the number one pick. Now the number one pick goes with Yonis. That changes that bottom feeding team to now a possible contender. You never know. But it kind of makes the middle of the role teams really good. And if you want to play at the bottom, you'll ask for the bottom. But are we considering the top picks to be the franchise changing players that we're picking?

That's what they're supposed to be. Right? So if you're in the lottery and you're Indiana and you're the other team and you get 13-14, are you not pleased with 13, 14? Nope. You didn't lose on purpose to get 13 and 14. I'm losing on purpose to get the same amount of balls. I want more balls.

But wait, but wait, let's just talk about tanking last year. you tanked last year and guess who got the number one pick? Yeah. Who? I mean, who tanked last year? If all the teams that tanked last year to try to get number one, they didn't get number one because number one went to who? A team that wasn't tanking.

And they got number two. But all that taken, it got me the number two pick, the three pick, the four pick, the five pick. I still get- But you didn't get Cooper flagged. Yeah. We tanked to get Cooper flag. And he went to a team that didn't necessarily needy. But again, we all tanked to get Cooper flat.

We all, so only one of us can win. We all. Spurs tanked. Everybody tanked. Spurs got, Spurs got Dylan Harper. Like, like they're trying to make their team better through tanking.

And they're saying, What about the problem? What about the, go ahead. It was hurt. You're hurt because I say you're hurt. I don't want to, that's what tanking is. We had a blood call.

And I say, hey, just sit out the rest of the year. What the blood clock? So now two years straight, they get the number one pick and the number two pick. Hence why they're where they are. They're saying we don't want that no more. What about increasing the eyes of the actual lottery probabilities based on the fact that Dallas got number one picked on that once in the lifetime chance of this ball dropping this life. 1.4% chance, yeah.

Right, let's increase the chances of everyone in the lottery to get a different type of probability chances. I get what you saying, Gil. I understand it and it does make sense, but I think that, like what Swag saying, if you trash, you trash, and if we take it to get number one and we still don't get them, That's a consequence in itself. It's like, damn, we tanked to get him and he went to a team that was good anyway. So why don't we just increase those chances of

if you do tank, nigger, you still might get 13. You still might get 10. But you still might be trash. I get both sides, but I'm looking at the probability. Like, Dallas didn't, they didn't tank last year. That's a good one. But Spurs did. They got the number two pick.

Charlotte did. They got their pick. first tank because like he said Wimby was hurt and Fox was hurt. Yeah. No, they're hurt because I told them that because I told them to be it. That's what

tanking is. We don't know that though. We all know that. I'm telling you. Okay, you're still, you're arguing when they're asking you does this stop you from taking? I'm thinking what he's saying is that kind of stops it.

If you put the percentages, the percentage. If your chances of actually getting one, two, three, go ahead, it decreases even based on you tanking. Like, yeah, you, you niggas can tank because it's fucking up your morale, your fan base. It's fucking all that dumb shit up.

But you still don't get the chances. You don't get the chance of getting one, two, three based on your tank. So basically you're saying if your last place, you get less balls? Yeah. If that less is your chances of getting the number one pick. For sure.

I'm with that. So now it's not tanking for the fact of I'm taking my guy, you're taking a risk based on you not having to take that risk. And you better play because you don't know where the ball might drop. Right? Do you all know, y'all just said the same thing I did? No, we did it.

So we did it. All right. So we did it. Let's try again. Let's try to get. Hold on. Hold on. I'm not disagree with you, though, Gil.

I'm not disagreeing with your point. I believe your point is valid. Let me ask you. I believe. I like what you're saying, Gil. Let me ask you, if this is. what you're saying. If your last place,

so right now, first, if your last place, you get the most balls to get a chance to get the first, second, third pick. So you're saying if your last place now, you get less balls. Less than what you really have. You get less chances.

Less chances to get them more. So if you used to get 10 balls for being last. You get, yeah. How many more? You might get three or four. You might get two.

So you get three, two, or what's the name? I get five. Okay. So who gets the most balls? If he flip forward, I don't know. Who gets the most balls? Yeah. Here, let's move along.

God damn. No, I get what you saying, because now we can actually, that scenario can then flatten, like Joe just said, flatten the odds for everybody. That ain't actually competing. And if we're going to judge who's competing, like we can actually see who's tanking.

So it's like, all right, are you taking your guys out? Are you purposely trying to tank? Let's flatten them eyes for you. We see it. Like, every time you see him take the guy out instead of fine, them, take a ball away. I guarantee they lose their money. That's the line with some of the anti-potential rule changes with the anti-tanking rule changes.

So if you're giving the chances of getting the top couple picks by giving them less balls to play with versus everybody else because you purposely taint, What is the difference between giving them the worst lottery pick automatically? So instead of giving you less balls, I'm automatically just giving you 14 and 13 versus taking seven balls from you, which potentially is going to be 13 and 14 because you have the less odds now. I'm just saying, hey, fuck all the draft shit. You get 14 and 13.

But when you go into the season wanting to tank, like you said before, knowing that your probability of getting one, two, three is not like it used to be. So we're not even going to play the game with that in our minds. We're not playing the game in our minds. We can get one, two, or three if we got this type of record. We actually don't know where we might get. We don't know where we might get. So we wouldn't go into it, like you said before,

if we're going to go one and 15 in the beginning of the season because we won't the number one pick, you wouldn't do that because you don't even have a clue where your pick gonna be, even if you did take it. Even if you did tank under the new rules that they're trying to put?

The ones that we're saying right now, if you were to flatten the chances of you doing it, you're not going to go into it thinking we're going to tank for one, two, and three because we have no idea what a ball going to land. You're going to see where we're at. That's exactly what I'm saying. You wouldn't think.

What we're doing right here is preventing them from doing it. So you wouldn't take it if you know going into the season last place, the last two, you get this prize. So you wouldn't start off the season or try to tank because there's a big penalty. Just like- I see what you saying. You're saying give them the worst, though. I'm saying- I'm saying-

I'm saying you could give them the variable. We don't know where you might go. I get what you're saying. The worst would be a penalty of consequence more than we actually going to say you don't, the consequence is you missed out on playing good basketball because you don't know where you're going to fit. Yeah. What I'm saying is last place is last place, right? And in society, if you're last at something, you get the worst penalty.

I hate how you argue about who's the best and who's right. arguing there. The problem is the actual question of how to see who's right. And you're arguing about I'm saying this is what I will do if I'm the commissioner. You don't

want to be the commissioner. You just want to argue about what I'm trying to say about. We're not arguing. We're not. We're not arguing at all. We're just saying we just saying there might be a better there might be a better more efficient way than just penalizing the at the bottom

of the tier when you can make it competitive based on not knowing what tier you're going to be in. They don't know what tier they're in now. No, they do know. They know that they got a chance at one, two, three. So if I get last place, so if I get last place today,

what is my penalty again? There ain't no penalty. You just don't know where your ball going to fall. Okay. It ain't going to fall one, two, three, guaranteed like you do. It doesn't now. So what stops me from tanking?

It does. For the majority, you know. But no, remember, the majority, you know you're going to be one, two, or three. Yeah, the one point chance. Do I get a chance at a lottery pick if I'm last place? Oh, man.

I'm asking. Is you saying with the new, with the what we're saying? Yes. Yeah, we have a probability. Yes. There's a probability chance, just like with the Mavericks. Yes. Let's ask you a question.

So what is my range of a pick for being last place? The same as the Mavericks was. One in 14. Like, all right. So I get a lot of it. So what stops to me from, for trying it? You could try it, but there's just not going to be a penalty for you not knowing where the ball may land.

It's not guaranteed like it is right now. It's guaranteed. If Utah's tanking, Utah's tanking right now because they feel like They got a great chance of getting AJ. They have a great chance to get an AJ. They might not get AJ. They can get a boozer. If they can't get boozer, they can get A man.

They are guaranteed to get a lottery pick, right? So me losing all the games, I have a high probability to get top 10 pick. So I'm going to take my chances at a top 10 pick. What I don't want is the 14th pick. I don't want that. No, I get it. What you just said is a high probability. I'm saying we lower that probability so that you don't have a confidence to do that going into it.

Yeah. Again, listen, I'm the owner. You're, I'm the owner. You're the commissioner. Okay. Let's just stick there. You're the owner. I'm the commissioner.

Right now, I want to lose to get a top 10 pick. Okay. Right. I'm going to lose, not knowing. As long as I get a top 10 pick, I'm good. The pick I don't want for being last place is 14. One through 10, I'm happy with. So I'm going to purposely lose to get a top 10 pick. How are you going to stop me from losing so the fans won't be disgusted with it? Do you think big shows chances of getting top 10 pick? 14 is always that bad too. You know, stuff. But top, 14 is the worst of the lottery.

Those bad teams automatically get lottery. I'm saying I don't want the 14th pick. I want a top 10 pick. So I'm willing to lose all the games to get top 10. So if you are not guaranteeing 14 to 13, I'm going to roll the dice. I would say this. let's do both. I would say let's do both, though. I'll say both work.

I'd say yours works long side hours. So if you say, you niggas going to really go out here and tank, you automatically get 14. But everybody else, your probability of getting in the top 10 ain't guaranteed either. The draft before this wasn't

like that. The shit was hard. They're asking us how to prevent it. And you niggas is talking about it. No, we're giving you ass to We're saying both sides We're saying we You integrate both sides

You integrate the one you're saying With, hey, you tank You get the bottom You get 14 and 13 You don't get All right, so that decreases automatically That takes you to the bottom

So we're saying everybody else 12 and up It's a rap. It's a rap for y'all. Y'all got the lowest chances too. Everybody up in the air now nobody know who's going to get number one. Okay. Beautiful.

Discussion and discourse. Thank you. Thank you. Very, very beautiful discussion in discourse on how to fixing tanking. I'm playing nice and there's no, there's no crap out. God, I hate you.

Know what I'm saying? Think about what I'm saying. The show is still a hell. In dice, there's no crap out on the first role. It's been over. What time is it? You're trying to stop me from rolling

dice. You're trying to play in life. Right? And losing my money as my father. But when I play, there's no crap out. Why would I If it's all beneficial to me

Or you say this You was you was crap You was rolling dice with loaded dice The whole time We found out We changed the dice to real dice And now You might just crap out

On the first row You might not You might not go on a row And win win win It ain't loaded dice No shit Yeah I forgot I got to do something And on that note

Let me appreciate everybody In the chat Very very healthy discussion discourse on how to stop tag. Appreciate. You know, Tate. Can you just tell them what the real question is?

That's the question. And here we are, 27 minutes later. You're right. You're right. Right. Right. Never see the niggas right. Who's right?

Well, it was not a problem, Nick. It was, what can we do? Oh, man. To stop things. That's all it was. That's all it was. Like, if I say, I don't want this nigga to steal something from me,

what is your solution? And I say, shoot the nigga in the head. He won't steal no more, right? He won't do it no more. You're like, well, if he want to steal, he want to steal, like, your solution to killing him is wrong. There's penalties in life. You do something wrong, take your ass to jail.

That's what we're saying. We don't want you to steal no more. Have you been in jail, motherfucker? No. All the wrong shit you did in your life. You know what? Do you know what? I haven't with it.

Because the, They're shit in jail. They're doing shit to you in jail. I don't want to be there. There's a penalty to going to jail. They take something that you hold on to in jail. Do we get paid for extra time? You don't need for your life.

Oh, that note. This show still took an elder day. So it don't better. When it goes, I can keep talking all y'all want. When the police get behind you and you put your seat on boom boom you know why because before we was born

before we was born there was a whole penalty 20 30 as 40 as you get you they come and knock on the door you get your ass up and they beat the shit out your ass up that done told our grandparents they grandparents you better we all just get along

right on boy put that seat along great places yeah thank you thank you I'm sorry appreciate everybody on Thank you. Appreciate everybody on the show.

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