Gil's Arena - Sheed Stuns Gil's Arena With MORE Legendary NBA Stories

Episode Date: December 5, 2023

The NBA In Season Tournament Is LIVING UP TO THE HYPE according to Gilbert Arenas and the Gil's Arena Crew as they're joined by Rasheed Wallace to break down the exciting semifinals and showdown between Jayson Tatum and the Boston Celtics and Tyrese Haliburton's Indiana Pacers. They also give their thoughts on the Detroit Piston's winless November and debate the difference between a young team and a bad team before wrapping things up with more amazing stories from Sheed's illustrious NBA Career. Remember to Like and Subscribe!! Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get a $100 first deposit match: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena Gil’s Arena premieres every Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. SUBSCRIBE:  / @gilsarena   APPAREL PARTNERS TUFF CROWD: https://www.tuffcrowd.com/ ADIDAS: https://www.adidas.com/us/agent-gil-restomod-basketball-shoes/ Gr8ness: https://www.gr8nss.store/ Order Rashad's Book Here - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CD9ZQ3HD?ref_=pe_3052080_276849420 Chapters Intro 0:00:00 Show Start 0:04:53 KD vs Adidas 0:10:48 Kevin Durant Is Top 5 All Time 0:22:08 Haliburton and Pacers UPSET The Celtics 0:26:46 Breaking Down the Pacers Defense 0:37:24 Sheeds Keys to NBA Night Life 0:42:29 Has Ring Culture Changed Standards In The NBA 0:44:17 Rings or Money? 0:53:03 Is Gil The Best 2nd Round Pick of All Time 1:01:52 Charles Barkley RIPS Zion Williamson 1:07:47 The NBA In Season Tournament Is LIVING UP TO THE HYPE 1:16:24 Sheed Previews His New Show  1:27:16 Sheed Tells The Story Of The Slam Heard Around The World 1:32:51 Why Sheed Isn't on NBA 2k 1:42:08 Who Was Sheed's Toughest Matchup  1:51:19 Sheed's Thoughts on The 76ers 1:55:11 Sheed's Problems With New Age Coaching/Trainers 2:04:08 Are The Pistons Bad or Young? 2:15:23 MostlyFans 2:25:24 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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terms apply. Instacart. Groceries that over-deliver. We talking about flashing lights, baby. Flashing lights everywhere. They just was saying shit about me. They didn't even fucking know me. This is my school. This is what I was doing with what nobody knew. Y'all don't know what goes on in practice

or the locker room. Age is zero. Change, yeah. 🎵 Welcome back to Gil's Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy. Woo-woo! I got dizzy doing that, Gil. I ain't gonna lie. I ain't gonna lie. I just got a little dizzy. I got to get my equilibriums back.

Okay, Gil. I mean, all red. What you trying to tell us? Nothing, just I had to find somewhere with the other grandma will set you from the grandma the grandma sneakers Coordination you gotta coordinate But this is Gilbert this gives a reader present about our fantasy. We got Gilbert arenas here with us We got Lexi brown back on the couch Where can it not punish? terrible twos two months

Love Matt the crew the crib and we got NBA champion Rasheed Wallace. Back with us in the arena. Yes, sir. Basketball! Yes, sir. So you got the Chiefs socks on, the Sixers hat. Hey, I got to rep my squads, you know. Somehow, someway, I'm going to have something with Chiefs on. An undershirt, T-shirt, socks, hat. That's real. I need to get me a football team.

Raiders, Gil. Come on. The L.A. Raiders ain't here anymore. I I mean you can roll with the Rams but because the proximity charges. Mm-hmm. They all in the same building so far It is I did go to the game I went to the Browns are you there they always there user no girl I'm not I'm not My daughter was the little cheerleader. I know. I didn't even know cheerleading would get me that close to the field. I was on the field.

I'm like, what? Cheerleading? Go, baby, go. This is crazy. I was like, hey, how often do we get to do this? Parents? Yeah. Did you see Brian and Kareem there?

Yeah, Captain was there. Do we get to do this? Did you see Bron and Kareem there? Yeah Listen I seen crew I seen Kareem the whole shit Kareem Had the number two scoring and then you know, they had to trump day and pull LeBron Number one, and I was like now go back to Kareem That's not right. Go back to Kareem. It was so petty. Because I want to see his face like, oh, this. So many things they could have put in that little title. One game I go to, this nigga got to be here.

I know he was mad. I know he was mad. Like, come on, every time I go somewhere, dude's here. Every time. Every time I go somewhere, you go somewhere. You go somewhere. Goddamn refrigerator eating up all the food. So we got a lot to talk about, but here's what's cooking in the arena today.

The first night of the in-season tournament quarterfinals is in the books, but do all the IST haters owe Adam Silver an apology? I think so after that Pacer Celtics game. Pistons have lost 17 straight games, but are they a bad team or a young team? Or both? And Sheed is a Philly native and Sixers fan, but is he finally ready to trust the process? But before we get into all that, as always,

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Man, you could do late night over that little jazz joint. Hey, this is JoJo here. We used to have Theo on 92.3 The Beat, so I've always tried to... night. Over that little jazz joint. Hey, this is JoJo here. Here with you. We used to have Theo on 92.3 to beat, so I've always tried to get my voice working. It gets better every week, Joe. I'm trying. I'm working. I'm trying not to get packed up by the chat

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We're supposed to have some snacks and some beverages there. I'm coming. You pulling up, Sheet? I'm coming. I need that bread. You're the $100,000. Tim, if you're watching the show,

Tim, you got to automatically get in. He automatically in. January. Can't wait. Have you been practicing? No. automatically get in the automatically Wait so let's get right that's gonna be fly though You have your practice oh You just come January 1 Okay, January 1 You think you about to get lethal in 19 days against me?

I'll keep thinking it this sweet out here. Did you win the one-on-one yesterday? I got to tell you about that. Yeah. We already know. Bro, yeah. I got to tell you about that. I'll let him tell you about that.

I'll tell you about that later. Because Arena taking L left to right. Well, let's get into something a little lighthearted. We had some shoe beef develop last week between Ant Edwards and KD, and even the Adidas social account. So it all started when a video dropped on NiceKicks Twitter with Ant Edwards naming a player he would love to see wearing his new AE1s. Who in the league I want to see wearing?

KD. Yeah, and he with Nike. I want to see him put on the AE1s. Okay, maybe your practice or something Funny as Air mentioned Katie's team Nike and after KD saw the video he offered this response Won't ever see me put a big toe in them MFers. So, the official Adidas account decided to step in and clap back at Duran on Ant's behalf

in a since-deleted tweet. Oh, they deleted it? They said, you dusty, about to retire soon anyway. They deleted it? Oh, no. They shouldn't have got it. It was between two dudes. They shouldn't have got it. It was between two dudes. They shouldn't have got it in there.

I love when corporate gets into it. But do you think they did that on purpose? Whoever designed that shoe was on that shoe team, I guarantee you was the one that put it up there. Yeah. I'm like, maybe someone thought they was on there personal, but they was really on the front. Nah.

Nah. That's why I was deleted fast. Nah, that's... Yeah, delete it, but they were really on the phone. Nah, but it fit. Nah, nah. That's why I was deleted fast. Nah, that's... Yeah, you deleted, but... It was up for way too long. They should have just left it. I love when Wendy's do it, like when Wendy's snap back or Chick-fil-A.

They do it on TikTok a lot, too. The corporate accounts. They just jump into random things. It makes it feel, like, normal. They're calling KD Dusty, though. That's come on. Yeah, Dusty's crazy. Kevin Wayne Durant.

Hey, man, when you the op, you the op. Still with Kevin. You the op. He's the op at this point. But it makes me wonder for all y'all, which current or former player's shoes would you never wear under any circumstances? Never wear?

Ooh. I mean, there's a few I mean you had them Dada boys when they was wearing Dada's the spinners yeah them spinning bullshits Web and Spree them Kim Noah's

oh the super chickens the Coxford teeth joints yeah like Spotify, Spotify, whatever there was a Kim, first of all I don't know how he got his own signature shoe, but that's Beyond the point it was it's the French shoe his you know, his dad's a famous tennis player overall stir yeah, Hall of Famer and

And you know Lecoq sportive is a big tennis shoe. So yeah, he's you know Todd it made sense Oh, okay. Thanks. I feel you know, Lecoq Sportif is a big tennis shoe. So, yeah, he's, you know, ties. It makes sense. Oh, okay. It makes sense. I feel you, though. That shoe is ugly. I didn't know he was French. Were they ugly?

Hell, yeah. Shout out to Yannick Noah. Shout out to my man, Yannick. Okay. I mean, okay, okay. I can see how he got it. That's how I got it. You know, nothing about him.

It's just them shoes was not it. Yeah, the super chicken. The super chicken. I don't think I could ever play in that. Remember when we was all growing up? The Magic Johnson Larry Bird Converse? Oh, yeah. They tried to push those hard. That was a whole league.

I couldn't play in them joints. Great commercial, though. Oh, awesome. Awesome. Not buying it. I see you with the Gucci's. Look at that. Oh, thank you.

Gucci no sock in them people. My friend actually got, my best friend, she got these for me for my birthday last year. OK. OK, friend. Yeah. I will say for her birthday, though, we went to Italy. That was her trip. You got her a trip to Italy?

No, I went with her to Italy. She didn't go by herself. I was about to say, that's not an even trade. I need friends like this. I just get the happy birthday. I'm like, all right. See, we go all the way. Happy birthday. We go all the way. We go all the way. I just get the happy birthday The which current or former player shoes would you never be caught dead wearing I don't know I like all shoes I

Try everybody's shoes. I mean this isn't a person's shoes but the and one shoes like were those ever like those were popular for real At some point right? And once you the shirts at one point they were short shirts and the shorts With the the the trash talk. Oh, yeah trash talk shirt No shoes are Would you bring the pumps back? I can't play in them but I wear them they're too heavy okay you're so heavy but I'd be wearing them like without they don't do oh I'm sorry I was gonna say they don't custom for you you ain't

deep brown so yeah they make new colors but they send them he has so many pairs at the house they just show my brother just did a collab with Mischief. So they made the pumps and they put the pump all over the shoe. And they did a commercial together. Did they say it's the same as when he played? Or were they a little bit lighter for him? Honestly, I should probably ask him that. I can't imagine him playing in those heavy shoes.

Because he's a skinny guy. Because the ones I wear now, those are kind of heavy. The Gil Restomod. They're heavier than these. Yeah, they're heavy. They're heavy, right? Yeah, I can't hoop in these, but I can definitely. I was just like, yeah, mine wasn't. I don't hoop anyway.

I was like, mine wasn't heavy. No, but I like them. They're cute to walk around in and stuff. So, Sheed, we'll start with you. Which player's shoes did you never wear but wish you could have hooped in at any point in life growing up? Wow.

That's a good one. Actually, I ended up, it's going to go back. It sounds bad, especially what I said yesterday. But actually, I had a pair of David Robinsons. Okay. So remember, David Robinson, he had the punk joint, too.

Mm-hmm. But it was some type of contraption on the side. The shaft or what do you mean? Yeah, and I actually was able to get... They were hand-me-down joints, but hey, fuck it, I'll take them. But, no, those are the joints that I wanted when I was a young boy because I was always into protecting my ankles, and, man, somehow, someway, my mom got me them joints.

You know, it wasn't a box. It was just a hand, too, like... I'm like, hey, let me see. Mmm, mmm. But, yeah, that was the David Robinson. I forgot the name of them, but it was like, it had the little air bubble on the bottom. It was like a little big green, lime green or something.

The Admirals. Yeah, hey, they was tough. I was like, shh. It sounded like that should have been a name. Oh, these joints. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. The Admirals. The Admirals.

Man. But I was like, all right. The Billy Hugs, man. They was free, though, so. That's how Billy, huh? It was free though. So that's how high oh, oh, yeah, they was high They were high they were high bro hops like real high top the process probably came up to where my thoughts Yeah, damn near Yo, you got hey you got you got man. Knees, back, and ankles.

You got to protect them. So, Lexi, how about yourself? Who's a player's shoes you never wore, but you considered doing it? I wish I was cool enough to wear, like, the retro Jordans in games. I just was not. My court swag was just not up to par for those. And I didn't think they were that comfortable to play in, but they look real cool on the court.

Mm-hmm. Retros do, but I never was a retro. Retros? Not the originals? I mean, they're all the same. What? No, they're not the same. Because you know the originals.

They got, you know how it's like clear bottoms? Those is yellow, right? You can see the glue coming out right here, and probably up and down, up and down. You done probably spit out of that Original yeah, because I'm like how did how did he play in these shoes like the retro thought it's yeah Way he played to I'm like there's no way but they look so cool on the court So I wish I was able to play now. Here you say you don't have swag crazy

in the back in the back Swag is young baby likes that arm sleeves saggy shorts But she got buckets though this way I get some prayer you got buckets though, she's just not very cute doing it. That's okay So good. How about yourself? Which player shoe did you never wear but wish you could have hooked in? Sir about yourself which player shoe did you never wear but wish you could have hooped in? Sir. Sir. I'm sir now? I was privileged back then that's all I had was shoes. No clothes. I had every shoe. Foot game on 10. What? Same shorts all just turn them out flip them back on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's Michigan today.

It's the same Michigan tomorrow, but you can't see them. I had every shoe, so, I mean, you know. But you always played in low tops, though. Yeah, so Bo Jackson, I had Andre Agassiz. I had Deion Sanders. I played in everything. I played in Ken Griffey's. Yeah, Ken Griffey's. I had Andre Agassiz, I had Deion Sanders. I played in everything. Yeah. I mean, I played in Ken Griffey's. Yeah, Ken Griffey's, I had those.

Yeah, them 24s. Luxurious. Yeah. The ones that was the them grain heels, the grain, the feel-os, the grain heels with the little, they had the little all the way around, like little choo-choo train on both sides. Yeah, they look heavy too, though. Them joints are heavy.

Bring Fela back. Come on, guys. Let's talk a little bit about KD. So Grant also made some history last week, passing Moses Malone to reach the top ten in all-time scoring. So, She, I want to start with you. What do you think about KD's game, and where would you rank him all-time if you had to? And KD, if you're watching this, I know you don't care about these things, but we're doing a show, so we want to start with you. What do you think about KD's game, and where would you rank him all time if you had to?

And, KD, if you're watching this, I know you don't care about these things, but we're doing a show, so we've got to ask these questions. No, it's still my opinion. I still think right now he's the best player in the league. You know, no disrespect to everybody else, but it just comes too simple for him, dawg. If you think about it, you know, he doesn't have to do a million dribbles to get a bucket or make a pass. It's either one or two dribbles. Either I'm going to pull up, shoot it, or lay it up. Or if I ain't got either one of them, I'm going to go ahead. He just keeps it simple. And to me, that's the best basketball you could play. You know, again, no disrespect

to anybody else that's playing in the league right now, but that's just my opinion. But, man, he's going to be top notch. I think for me in the league right now, I would definitely put him in, like, you know, if I had to put together a top five, he would be in my top five. Okay. Like, I would put him at small forward, though, opposing to power forward at center

like he plays sometimes now. But, yeah, man, I would definitely have to put him in my top five of guys in the league now. So you say KD's best player in the league right now, your opinion? Yeah, that's just my opinion. You know what I'm saying? Because, again, on the facts, simplicity.

He keeps it simple. It's like you don't see him making too many fucked up passes or fucked up plays or forcing too many shots, you know what I'm saying, trying to shoot over two and three people. Nah, if I see both of y'all coming at me, take that, Joe. You know what I'm saying? Keeps it simple.

This is weird. We're in a time where the NBA players who played with the guys, who watches the game, who knows everything under the hood, gets challenged by fans on who they think is the best because they get it from the media and who the media pushes. If you listen to all players, we're telling you who we think the best is because we are watching the games, we practice, we train. We've been there, done that. Yeah, and we're like, yo, this is bad.

And I'm sitting here having a full argument with dudes about- Who don't know anything. And we like yo, this is bad and I'm sitting here having a full argument with dudes About oh, this is what Steve like this is what like That's like me sitting there watching their algorithm and say oh this is the best reporter They'll be offended fat. They'll be offended Bobby like you Pat McAfee is the best one doing it under them They were hold on just got here a few few years ago We've been doing this for a long time. I want to wait his algorithm is running He said it up it up it up like damn did they look at me? So that's how we looking at y'all like don't tell us who we know who the best is We know who has a best team. We know who's the best player. Mm-hmm

Bye Do you roll with Pat McAfee? I'm rolling with black McAfee, so. Okay. Okay. No, I'm just saying. Because you paid my bills. So I'm just saying if we did that, if we started ranking them, they'd be pissed off. Oh, for sure. We might as well do it. Hey, you know what we should do as former athletes? Get a little committee together and go to their office and kill them like they be killing us.

Are you sick? Yeah, yeah. No, you didn't put the comma there. You didn't put the comma there. You got this story wrong. It's not anybody's job, really. You called him a power forward. He's a small forward.

It's crazy. But yeah, but then like when you have an athlete who expresses their opinion, that's my thing is you ask for someone's opinion, then you get mad when they give it. Because it doesn't agree with your opinion. And then they bring up like players' stats. Oh, you don't have this. You don't have...

Well, what do y'all have? Y'all are sitting at home. So why aren't you able to tell us how we can feel when we have these experiences, we have these skill sets, we know what goes on in practices and workouts, and y'all don't know shit. And y'all are getting mad at us for having valid opinions. I respect it.

But the way they... I don't know, this KD conversation is odd because I think people do have a problem with how easy he makes the game. And it's not always, like, the sexy play. But he makes the right play. And he makes the best play. And I don't know. But, yeah, I think he's going to, I don't know if I would say top five, like you guys, but top ten for sure.

But one of the best scorers of all time, definitely. I think it was wild with KD. Achilles injury, we've seen guys suffer that injury. And it's almost like he's gotten better. What's so funny is when he had got it done, when he got injured and when John Wall got injured, I was like, oh, these are two players that won't be affected by their Achilles because it wasn't a jumping leg

right, so Kevin Durant heard his right Achilles his left leg is his jumping leg So, you know, he wasn't gonna be affected like everybody else, you know, the Marcus cuz everybody that was their left It was harder come. Yeah. Yeah, it's the harder comeback because we got to jump up out of you know, so you need so you need your jumping legs, so... Yeah. For him, it was like, yeah, I was like, oh, ain't she gonna change? Yeah, true. KD, if you're watching this,

we still need you to pull up to the arena, all right? We still looking for you. I ran up on him after he was supposed to come on. He said he was gonna come on. Still ain't came on. It was, wait, wasn't it a weekend? Whatever. No, it was a weekend what happened.

Because they trained at a certain time. It was Friday? It was one of those days. It was one of those days where we had them. Oh, it was Sunday. It was on a Sunday. We was ready on the Lord's Day for you, KD. Nonetheless, let's talk a little bit about this in-season tournament. Monday was the first night of the in season tournament

quarterfinals Celtics Pacers game did not disappoint we got some highlights to roll through with the game tied late in the fourth quarter Tyrese Halliburton put the Pacers on his back this huge four-point play Halliburton had his first career triple-double joins Nicola Jokic as the only players this season with a triple-double that includes zero turnovers. Pacers rattled off nine straight points. You can see they're hungry for that dough. That was his first triple-double?

First career, yeah, which is wild. That's wild. With what he's doing this season, but... Whoa, look at the bench. But look at the Pacers' play. You see how tur this season. Look at the bench. But look at the Pacers play. You see how turnt up they were after the one for good reason. They have the lowest payroll in the league.

So that $500,000 grand prize is looking mighty appealing to that crew. I bet. I think it's something like 10 guys on that roster who are making under $3 million. Wow. Boy, they about to spit. They playing hard. That's already spit. Already spit.

Boy, I'm about to get. They playing hard. That's already spit. That's already spit. Five. Boy, I'm about to get that phantom I wanted. That's crazy. That's wild. That's... I swear to God, watch. Watch. When they...

After they get that check... As a young fella, yeah. I want to see... I want to see what they walk in with. The uniforms. I mean, I want to see that... walk in with. The uniforms, I mean. I want to see that, what is it, fit cam. It's going to be something. Fit cam, boys.

It's going to be something. Jewel it out. It's going to be something. New chains, a whole new fit. So they're already guaranteeing themselves 50 for reaching the quarterfinals. Now it's 100 for reaching the semifinals. And if they make it to the finals, they're getting at least 200,000, whether they win or lose.

And then 500 obviously goes to the winner. Wow, that's nice. But what did the Pacers show you in the IST quarterfinal win over the Celtics? Put them on TV more. I think that was Halliburton's second national TV game in his career. Put them on TV. Or at least with the Pacers. I mean, they got an exciting team.

I mean, they got a couple of exciting players. And the way, you know, he plays, you know, it's good for basketball. Mm-hmm. You know,

he's, he's not as flashy as a mellow ball, but, you know, he's that style. He's that style of player. So, you know,

getting him some more TV games, letting the world see who he is, is good for the league. Well, yeah, you already know how that is. They're going to go off of who has the most fans, followers, and all of that stuff. So they're going to put more of those games on TV with the bigger teams.

But, no, Indiana's a good team. I definitely agree with you, Gil. They're a good young team. They should be on TV more because that's what you're promoting. As part of the NBA, you're promoting a younger league, which it is. So shit, put everybody on TV. Are they able to change? They can change games. Oh, yeah. Flex them out. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. They can. They've done it. They've done it. The fact that he's only been on TV, national TV twice. It's crazy. But, I mean, I think that's the best thing about this in-season tournament. I think they talked about it last night, the TNT guys, like how these smaller market teams are able to be shown on nationally broadcasted games and have these opportunities. I mean, you get up a little bit more for those games.

If you're not used to playing on nationally broadcasted games, you're going to be a little bit more hyped. So, I mean, you saw the a little bit more for those games. If you're not used to playing on nationally broadcasted games, you're going to be a little bit more hyped. So, I mean, you saw the bench. They're going crazy. They're excited. We going to Vegas. We going to the chip. Right?

We're going to win a little trophy. It's the season last place. And I think the thing was, if they would have lost that game there, we would have had to go hang out in New York to see who was going to lose between the Bucs and Knicks. And then if the Bucs ended up losing, they would have had to fly to Milwaukee. So now they just got the straight shot to Vegas.

They get to hang out for a couple... Straight to Vegas? Straight to Vegas. Oh, yeah. Oh, shit. I will be there on Thursday. Oh, shit. You about to be there, too?

Girl, you coming? Come on, Gil. Wow! I have plugs, too, Gil. Not many but nah, listen we were supposed to go there and do shows Mmm, right. We had people who said that I don't know if we should go, you know We got two of y'all going automatically. Who said I had a show there? I'm not going for work. It's a Jaycation.

A Jaycation, huh? It's a Jaycation. I'm going for content with threads. Shout out to Threads. Shout out to Nick Marquez, that whole crew over there. The Threads crew trying really hard to, you know, start on Twitter. See how the African-Americans do. You use that to the ribs.

I don't like football. They're going to be out there anyway. I would have been ready to work if we did go out there. But we're saving. We got some big things coming up. All-star weekend, summer. So we have a finite budget. We're trying to make it work.

We're not getting the Cam and Mace budget yet. I'm with you. I got people watching. I'm with you. I got people watching. I'm with you. We need a budget. We're going to talk underdog. All right, we have some things to discuss at our next powwow. But Pacers are on pace to have the highest offensive rating in NBA history,

but they're 28th in defensive rating this season. So will their defensive struggles be there the pace of the Achilles heel Probably like Phoenix Suns, you know for the most part during the regular season that they can Offensively just run through teams especially teams that That focus on defense and don't really have much offense they can you know outscore them But you know once the playoffs get down if they can't stop anybody that offense is meaningless yeah it's out the window no you definitely I'm all defense anyway you know they say defense wins championships often sells tickets okay I don't care if I'm selling tickets or not

we're gonna get some stops so you still feel defense wins championship even in this NBA oh it has to because you got to look at it it comes down to okay the last few teams who won it um you know the bugs the warriors at some point look at their defense of prowess from the regular season like uh but as them playoffs came each round for a lot of the teams that won it over the last few years their defense clamped down now i'm not saying that it was a straight lock up you know i think more now they think good defense is just a regular missed shot contested or not but teams locked down they you know less shots you know it's less bullshit shots the more the veteran teams value I think the Nuggets last year were one of the few anomalies. I want to say their defense finished 15th regular season.

I know they picked it up in the postseason. But before that, I think the last, like, eight or ten changes were all like, again, that's regular season. Yeah, they got it right. It's a different season. Once at the end of them 82, and we all got zero wins and zero losses. Yo, it's a whole new season. Whole new season, for real.

Lakers had to find that out the hard way. Still reeling from that. Some say it was a sweep. I just say minimum amount of games allowed to advance. Lexi, what do you think about this Pacers squad? You know, regular season versus now when we get to the postseason, will that defense become an issue? I mean, they play no defense at all.

Like, it was like blow by, blow by. But it kind of seems like, I mean, obviously, I don't have any inside information. This is just from what I've noticed, that maybe they just, you know, preseason, you do like a lot of defensive stuff. You get your, you know, your concepts in. Maybe they did it like the opposite way.

Maybe they're like, we're going to score the ball and we're going to work on our defense as the season goes. Get y'all's confidence up. Y'all can be happy scoring the ball, having fun. And then by the time, hopefully they make playoffs, they're going to have all their concepts in. They're going to have their defense set. And then maybe they'll build that way, which for me, like that's not a bad way because I hate training camp because of that. It's like it's I hate it and then they get mad at us when we can't put the ball in a basket but I was like cuz we took five shots and practice today because we were doing defensive stuff all freaking training camp the one

thing I hate about training camp defense was this it was so unrealistic so like we just starting five playing defense against the second, third, and dudes who ain't playing. Us shutting them down don't got shit to do with the teams we playing. The starting five we playing ain't the sorry motherfuckers we looking at right now. But it's different, though. It's different, though. Even though you got your first team, of of course they the best five out there if you going against every day i know what you're going to do every day every time we in practice and you want to call like you know a 14 or you know

a fifth side four whatever every day i know it's coming but here's the thing so with where the discipline and you become a better defensive team that is how can i stop this play without fouling cutting it short or bullshitting the play like i know you want to set the screen and it's mandated for you to roll i know this so okay no i'm gonna just let you go set the screen and i'm gonna meet you here that's i hate that what if coach'm going to meet you here. I hate that. What if coach wants you to step up and show because it's a dangerous shooter or whatever the case may be? Yo, get that stop, show, and get back to your man. That's good defense.

You know, I've always hung my hat on defense. So, again, I'm with every defense. Is that the difference between, like, a great defensive team and a bad defense? Like, we're in practice working on a hard show, but I know my point guard can't shoot the guy I'm guarding, so I'm cheating the play anyway. I'm going to just go under. Even though the other 29 guards, I'm going to have to go over.

Right. Because they all can shoot. I'm just going under him because I know he can't shoot and I'm cheating the play due to this is just practice. This is just practice. Yup. And that's how

I guess in poor defense you know as we always say you know you practice and I mean you play how you practice. You know

if you got poor habits in practice again as you said you couldn't play short offense and defense that's what you're going to do in the game and then be mad when y'all 28th and scoring and all of that shit oh it's

because of practice do you think like teams are better defensively if they have the way they play defense and they don't really change it based i mean obviously you have your scouting reports you do some things that are scout specific but you don't deviate too much from your base defense. Because I've noticed that some teams I've been on, we have like a completely different defensive game plan, like every game. Well, I mean, for us, it worked out good in Detroit. It was good or bad. You know, with certain special players, of course,

you're going to deviate from your everyday defense. But for the most part, it was like, look, no, we're going to ice it. We're going to push them to the left baseline or push them to the right baseline, whichever side they were on. No, we're going to keep it on this side of the floor. At that man at the top, hey, you're going to take away any type of pass out there. So then that way, for sure, we're keeping it on this type of floor. You got help on a backdoor cut by the guys that's already down low. Yeah. Look, I'm definitely a big believer in by the guys that's already down low. Yeah.

Look, I'm definitely a big believer in y'all going to have to face our defense. Exactly. We're not adjusting to how y'all play offense. Yep. But some coaches don't believe in that. Some coaches are just okay with, okay, this game we're going to trap. This game we're going to hard hedge. This game we're going to ice.

And, like, I don't think that's a good way to play defense. Well, that's how you end up with low percentages as far as low rankings with defensive teams because, as you just mentioned in your original question, statement, they don't have no base. Like, what are you setting your defense on? We know what you set your offense on is going to go through one or two people. What are you setting your defense on? What you hanging your hat on? Yeah.

I think we had Norris Cole on the show recently. That's what he was talking about with Spoh. Spoh's like, we're going to do this the way we do it. Then he may switch it up later on in the season, but LeBron used to butt heads with it a little bit. Because LeBron would want, you know, he would want to make the adjustment. Then Spoh's like, nah, this is how we playing it. Get down

with it. Heat culture. That heat culture. Is it heat culture or is it it I can't wait for Pat Riley to run up on you bro and I got my have some questions I got a whole bunch of years you explain this why you want Pat Riley to run up on, I get heat culture, but what was... Don't believe it. Fuck a movie. Shouldn't it be L.A. culture?

Shouldn't it be Lakers culture? Shouldn't it be heat culture? I mean, shouldn't it be Knicks culture? Nah, it makes sense. But let's talk a little bit about Tyrese Halliburton. Tyrese had a historic November, joined some elite company, averaged 29 points, close to 12 12 assists while shooting 53% from the field 47% from three which is easy

Especially like with that jumper, but he got it. That's what he's gonna keep doing That job you see that jumper at the park like oh, I don't know But you go in so shout out the how the blue lines will ball For the old lines of all yeah So only Michael Jordan and LeBron James ever averaged 25 and 10 with 40 We're 50 and 40 percent shooting month But Halliburton has some interesting things to say about individual accolades Okay This is 50%

Said oh in a month. In a month. LeBron did it twice. MJ did it once in 89. That's not a good one. He did that, what, for the month of November? Yeah, that's what Halliburton did for November. That's probably good.

Because it's like, these are new things that they just create and just to create it. You can find a staff or anything. From 50 to damn near 80, from 50 to 70, they You can find a staff or anything. From 50 to damn near 80, from 50 to 70 they didn't even keep all the staff. You know they always got to pull a silver lining out of everything. I'm always impressed when people find

these stuff. They just make up shit just to fit people in and just this. They just do. But Youngfella playing good. Why we just can't say that? He young fella playing good. No, no, yes. Why we just can't say that? Yeah, yeah. He just playing good.

He tearing it up. Because we add context. There's only three players that have done it, and those three players are MJ, LeBron, and Tyrese Halliburton. Doesn't that make Tyrese Halliburton? We trying to sell these Pacers games. Does that mean that you're going to be in the GOAT conversation now? Oh, shit.

GOAT! Just throwing that out there, because why else would you do that to that poor boy? Just let him hoop. But Halliburton has some interesting things to say about individual accolades versus winning. He said the following, I just want to get to the playoffs, not gonna lie. All the individual stuff is cool and I've accomplished a lot individually already. Been an All-Star, which is the main goal of mine when I came to the NBA obviously there's more for me to achieve individually but individual success is

nothing at this point I just want to win I'm tired of being a loser you ain't a loser son that part I could say shit he winning you know going going get that bread got you know I'm saying shit boy you winning shit. Coming from a champ. Man, man. You winning. You are in fact winning. We've argued a lot on this couch about that. I get what he's saying, though.

You know what I'm saying? As he said in his statement, you know, his main goal before he got to the league was to make the All-Star game, boom, accomplished. So now what else do I want? I'm tired of getting my ass kicked every night. I'm tired of being looked at as, you know, and Gil, you know how we all did it. When the schedule come out, you look like,

all right, all right, y'all can fuck around here. He's tired of being looked at as one of them cities. One of them cities. Indiana ain't shit. We're going to look at this. So you really would go through the schedule? Hell yeah. All right, I'm going to chill.

It was nice when, like, all right, no, I'm going to go to sleep this night. I ain't going out. I might. This one, oh, for sure, I'm partying. I'm kicking it. Hell yeah. What? So we know the usual suspects, but which cities would show up on that schedule?

Like, which city low-key is turnt up that people don't know about? I mean, it's the basics for the most part, especially back then when you're talking about late 90s, early 2000s. For me, you know, you got your Houstons. They was cracking. Atlanta was a terrible team, but the nightlife, sheesh. Claude, have mercy.

Of course, out here, L.A., you know, all your major cities, New York, Miami was always nice. Even Orlando was pretty nice because you had good weather down there. So, you know, all your nice cities like that. So, you know, I'm in a hotel now. Real talk, I'm in a hotel in Utah. We know.

They got the humidifiers in the hotel. I didn't know what they was for. Then I thought I had the Rona. I was in a hotel in Minnesota, and I was in a hotel in San Antonio. Facts. So when you saw those cities on the schedule, like, oh, okay, I'm going to be juveniles. And Denver. Denver.

Juvenile service. What? Not leaving the crib. Don't even think about leaving. You just be like, come on, man. Nobody ever get you like, Salt Lake, turn up tonight. Gil, pull up. Nah.

Never? No, man, no. You'll pull up. No No, man Man if it snowed out there I wasn't even thinking about it Like I it's like I came on I came on the plane like I left my house from my garage to the plane I got on sandals. So I was one of those soon as we came off the plane and hit that So like oh my god What are you wearing I was like, well my girl I'm sorry my garage is heated There's always There's always 85. There's always going to be war. There's always 85.

But Lexi, I want to know, has ring culture changed the young player's perspective on individual accomplishments? I don't know, honestly. I mean, you have someone like Halliburton who says, I just want to win, I just want to win. But then, I know we just brought up like mellow ball. I don't think we've ever even had that conversation or any reporters have even asked him about like winning a championship. But I'm not saying he doesn't care about it. But he is in Charlotte, so they know better. Right. So it's just like, again, with the amount of money that they're making so early, I just feel like a lot of them now are like, let me get the bag and then I can worry about winning later.

Word. Yeah. of them now are like let me get the bag and then I can worry about winning later wire yeah when you're thinking about history right and you're trying to compete with history it is chess right it's a chess match because if you're winning championships early... You're going to take the L later. Right? Yeah, you're going to take the L later. But the problem with taking the L later, you don't have the energy to get the individual accolades, you know, in your 30s, trying to be selfish.

No, no, no. That's how your ass is out of the league. Right? You're 34 thinking you're about to start doing a scoring title. Maybe you'll get your ass about it here. Right? And then if you try to become a scorer early and get all these individual accolades early, you're selfish and they're empty stats.

Right? So the easier way is when you're young, no one is really looking for you to win anything. That's when you get your scoring titles and try to get all those individual awards. And then eventually when you're mature, old enough, 27, 28, 29, that's when you start trying to build for a championship. But the media now, they ain't allowing that shit. They're going to hurry up.

You're 21, they'll be like, oh, this motherfucker came when he'd they in the lounge that shit. They don't hurry up suit you 21 I'm notice muffin came when he been leaked two years You put him in a little graphic with Brian and MJ now all of a sudden they gonna be like Yeah, they gonna be expecting they got good team though They got hard work with my young fella miles Turner. He got a good team, though. They got a hard worker with my young fella, Myles Turner. I like Myles. I like Myles. That's my guy right there. You know what I'm saying?

I think he's helping keeping them level-headed. But, yeah, them young boys is off the hook, man. They've been playing good. I ain't a big fan of the IST myself, but, I mean, obviously it brought that energy that we saw a minute ago so. So you're basically saying young players, if you were a young player coming into this league now you would focus on getting them stats as opposed to building your resume with

chips and being known as a winner. It is, it's, it's what do we value and when we come into the league our dream is to become NBA players once we become that then we have to alter that dream usually that dream now altered is usually going to be individualized right all-star all NBA make the Olympic team um you know get a you know a max or a super max so you're secure in life. And then 26, 27, 28, yeah, try to win championships. That's how we're doing it. Because to really be in that GOAT department,

you got to have the numbers to back it. You got to have the numbers to back it because all the greatest players ever are... And they got the numbers to back it You got to have the numbers to back it because all the greatest players ever are and they got the numbers They got the numbers to back it. There's only a few of them that came into the league as Champions within the first two years that they're the ones who got They got drafted to great teams already But for the most part the destined destined, the GOATs, the ones we are considered the best players ever, think about the number one pick.

Where's our number one pick? Spurs. Yeah, he ain't going to win nothing. He ain't going to win nothing, so it's going to be individualized. When Luka got drafted, when LeBron got drafted, Tim Duncan's great. He had David Robinson. He had a great team. But for the

most part, the best player in the draft is going to the worst franchise. The shitty team, yeah. So that means he has to get his motor, do all this, and then try to win. How Michael Jordan did it, that's exactly how it's supposed to work. Yeah. Right? How Magic and Bird did did it that's anomalies. That's yeah. Well, well, yeah magic was his Anomaly for sure cause he won from beginning to the end. Yeah, so In LA which is that's not crazy. They was a champions before that

But just to be able to get that number one thing to get work. Yeah, that was a thing get the number They won a championship and got the number one pick Yeah, and got the thing, get the number. They won a championship and got the number one pick. Yeah. And got worthy. Like, come on, man. That's like, people don't really understand this. It's like Denver getting Wimby. Right now.

Right, like, they got the number one drive, Wimby. Y'all be like, oh, this is some bullshit. What the hell is going on here? It's rigged. Exactly. So it's basically the move now, right? Get those individual accolades. Get that Supermax contract.

Then if the team is still trash, say, fuck it, I'm going to force my way out. It seems like we've seen a lot of guys do that. And players have that now. Empowerment to be able to move that way. Would you agree with that or disagree? No, I mean, it definitely was forced over. The players, in my opinion, does have a lot of power when it comes to, if I want to get traded, I'm going to let you know who I want to get traded to.

When I was playing, oh no, you going to get traded to wherever the hell we want you to get traded to, that's going to work best for us. We don't give a fuck about you now because we're getting rid of your ass. But now it's like, oh, so you want to be traded to, like, Denver. Oh, no problem. We'll see if we can trade you to Denver. No. F-O-H, nigga. Fuck out of here.

Like, yo, no. So it doesn't make sense for it to happen. So it's like the young fellas, hey, man, y'all better be happy and lucky that, you know what I'm saying, if you young and came into the league, that you won that chip. You better be happy and lucky because, shit, you might not never make it. We had Hall of Famers who never made it, who never won it. And what's so funny is that they have the luxury that these guys have now. Oh, Lord.

Iverson would have probably left. A while ago. He would have been left. Probably. And went to go try to win a championship. Y'all don't want to get nobody else to help me? All right, I'm out. Mm-hmm.

You know what I mean? I'm out of here. I'm going to go ahead and, you know, go team up, get me a ring. Because if not, like, when y'all think y'all gonna hold me here hostage right and when i say hostage i mean you guys are not willing to spend the money to bring in superstars or even make trades that make sense for me so i'm selling out the building by myself which i'm maximizing your pocket right whoever we bring is not going to put in the extra. They're not going to sell a ticket

because I'm selling them all. So they're looking at you like, why are we bringing you in, right? So Iverson's sitting there just out there hustling his damn self, maxing it, maxing it, maxing it. And then he's like, and at the end of the day, like,

hey, good job, AI. Look, we're going to put a statue outside of the, what's the name of it? We're about to draft the young kids and we're going a statue outside of the what's-her-name But we about to drive the young kids and we don't get rid of you. He's like Hey, I couldn't told me this like four five years ago man. Yeah, that's it. That's the business though, man That's that's the rough thing about it though that business. Yeah Businesses that business Alexis young players be expected to win

after getting that big contract? I was talking about Halliburton signing that max deal, but this goes on around the league, or is that a franchise organizational thing? I mean, win what, a championship? Or, like, win games? Or just win some games, like, you know. I mean, I think if you put all this money

into players or a player, yes, that should turn into more wins, not necessarily a championship, but like if you didn't make the playoffs, they make the playoffs, but if they don't bring you no help, like, I don't know what they expect one player to do. Like, but winning is, is important, but again, only one team wins at the end. And I probably could ask someone who won the NBA championship eight years ago and answer three seconds. And I probably could ask someone who won the NBA championship eight years ago and answer in three seconds. Some people probably wouldn't even be able to tell you.

So at the end of the day, you got to get your bag, and I can respect all these guys who are doing that. So, Shay, we talked about this on the couch before, but would you rather have $300 million, no rings, or $54 million, seven rings? I had this conversation one day in a locker room when I was coaching. It was me, Chauncey, my young fella Peyton Siva, and my other young fella Josh Smith.

We had this same conversation. I can't tell you everything that was said in it, but the short story, no, for me, i i gotta get that ring i gotta get the bread the bread is gonna come with the ring the bread is gonna come with the ring long term now it might not be it might not amount to as much so like let's say you know as you mentioned for example the 300 million dollar contract right okay i might not be able to make $300 million in that seven, eight, nine years or however long that contract is again, but I'm immortalized though, yo. I'm in this motherfucking half, which I don't want to be, you know, fuck it, but I'm in there. To me, that's why

I came into the league. Like the young fella said he he came into the NBA to make the All-Star game. Halliburton. I came into the NBA to win at least one. And I was blessed enough to make three, but I got the one. And shit, let me tell you, you're immortalized forever. Because you're immortalized in that city forever. They're always going to know you. Yo, man, you realize it's been 20 fucking years?

I'm telling my age, but it's been 20 years since we won it. This upcoming season, bro. Like, and guess what? I walked through the airport safe. If I even got a layover for, like, you know, half hour, 40 minutes in Detroit DTW, guess what? Everybody and their mama going to say something because of what I brought to the city. Like, for me, that outweighs the bread. Now, don't get me wrong.

The bread is good, too, though. The bread is, you know. But, you know, you going to get the bread because that comes with winning. You know, because now it's like, oh, shit, he's a champion, so we want to put him on this commercial, that commercial, do this, do that with him So, you know, it might not come with the NBA track, which is guaranteed

But might come in endorsements and other things in the long run shit You might get set up for your kids your grandkids later on in that city, you know, so now for me I'm taking that ring I'm taking the hardware. Yeah, I look there like this 300 million, right, over your career or seven rings 54 over your career, right? And when you really take the money out of it, take the years plus that player. One is a max player, right? One is max. We know what he is. The other one is a role player, right?

If you only made $54 million in your 16-year career, right, no matter how many rings you got, 16-year career, you're making three million dollars So in reality you're asking me do I want to be the number one option and fail or does six seventh ninth man and When rings on someone else's back, there's no responsibility here, right? I get your work ethic. I don't want your work ethic I don't want whoever's number eight or nine. I don't want your work ethic. But it might not be on somebody else's back. You could be an intricate part of that team.

Look at Big Shot Bob. I don't want to be Big Shot Bob. I mean, fuck. Shit. The motherfucker hit big shots to win the chips. Shit, one of them won my dumb ass for doing a dumb gamble. But, I mean, damn. I want to be Big Shot. I want to be Hakeem.

I didn't work... You can be Dream. Think about Dream's work, think about Big Shot's. Fact. Big Shot gets to go to sleep at night. When they lose that big game, Hakeem is sitting there like, fuck what I got to do better. That's what makes it more gratifying

with the chip, opposing to the bread. But what I'm saying is, instead of Hakeem, the guy who they beat, instead of, like, I want the responsibility. My thing was, I got to take his work ethic, too. And I've never...

True. You know what I mean? I've never worked like that. I'd rather be a superstar, and I worked my ass off and just, I just didn't make it versus just being someone who came in at 10 o'clock, did the bare minimum, and then, whoo, she, like, whoo, she, good job, baby. Like, I don't want to be that. Mine is more of the work ethic. It's important, but I get what you're saying.

Mine was more of the work ethic part. Like, I got to take your behavior. Yeah. I either get the AI, the Charles Barkley, all those guys' work ethic and they just failed or

my teammate, Nick Young, he has a championship. I don't want his work ethic. Fuck that. I don't want what he had to do on game day come in leave early come late like no, I don't want not leaving Come late leave early right right, right? You know I mean step curry out that motherfucker working out all goddamn day. He get to go home do nothing He has no responsibilities. No nothing just That's how I looked at it. It wasn't it wasn't more about the ringers. I don't want that dudes work ethic That doesn't seem like

What can we change the question then? Cuz I feel like it's kind of an unfair question you like would you rather be a superstar or a role player rope? But that but that's the reality. That's what I said you'd be like a star and the superstar because the star player a star player a Star player that's a champion would not make only 54 million dollars. So 300 mil no rings 200 mil seven rings That I feel like that's a So I got seven rings for a hundred million That's Tony Parker, yeah

I'm not gonna be no Ginobili. I'm sorry. I'm just gonna keep that I'm not gonna be I'm gonna keep it a bug. I'm not coming off the bench I'm not gonna be doing those six-man shit. Okay, but this is important. Yeah cool. Yeah. Yeah, you cool You said but fucking no one's ever calling your name. Everybody ain't got your score and prowess Think about it. It all comes it when when the star in five comes up mmm and she You know Like I listen I can be listen I can be second option money, I'm good with that. Okay I can have a break out of the option money. I'm good with that. Okay

She you help you were probably yeah, so you do what you did is you move the money up Like 200 is work You made the convo much better Ginobili was better than the fuck I like you do on this Fucking time I Ginobili with me. Get the fuck out of here. You're crazy as shit. You heard Trevor Reed say you were the best second rounder ever, right? Of course. You were very upset about that.

I averaged 29 a game in the NBA. The Joker? I got booed. The Joker was also drafted in the second round. No, no, no, no, no. Okay. So we can get... Hold on.

You said clear your shit up. Hold on a minute. Because that's what Shannon Sharpe said. He said, you know... When it comes to individual player, I was the better player individually.

That means no team involved, just us. You versus Joker one-on-one. Fuck him up. I'm going to fuck him up. Basketball player, Joker. Five versus five. Joker, all day. He utilizes his team perfect.

Draymond Green, Draymond Green, best role player. He's the best role player. Dennis Rodman, I don't know where you put him, but nobody's last, man. I don't know where you put him, but... Ginobili's last, man. Like, I'm sorry, like, I don't know what the fuck people get with this Ginobili shit.

Right, I'm sorry, I've never... I've had a scout report. I've got to put him above Dennis Rodman, though. Huh? I've got to put him above... You put Ginobili above Dennis Rodman? I've got to, yeah. Why?

What scout report did y'all have for Ginobili? Ginobili likes to go right. Well, this is aobili? Ginobili likes to go right. Well, this is Scott's report. Ginobili likes to go right, watch for the up and under. He will give you the two hard dribbles to the left, hit the spin back, and go for the jump shot or pass it to the corner, depending on how the play was ran. But our main thing with Ginobili was just stay down.

We know he was going to come with a lot of pump fakes, this and that. That's why, like, Tate did a good job on being a long defender. You know what I'm saying? Having long arms and shit. But, yeah, damn, like... Nobody...

There was no fucking scouting report to stop Genova. Tim Duncan... Well, yeah, he was the main kid. Yeah, yeah, yeah. David Roberts, for sure.

I mean, Tim Duncan, back then, David Roberts. Tim Duncan, Tony Parker. Period. Right? Okay, you got the six men coming up. He can get hot. I mean, Tim Duncan, back then, Dave Robbins. Tim Duncan, Tony Parker. Period. Right? Okay, you got the six men coming up. He can get hot. I mean, he was averaging like 16, 13.

Yeah, off the bench, though. Ooh, that's what's up. Dog, but you got to think about it. That's what, off the bench, that's what's up. Yeah. I mean, he is guarded by a third option defender. Not the best option. True. He ain't getting double teamed.

That ain't my fault. But what I'm saying is. That ain't my fault. But what I'm saying is. That your third string dude ain't better than mine. That ain't my fault. No, but what I'm saying is don't sit here and tell me how great this player was. Because he got rings.

You only know him because he has rings. You don't know him because he was out there scoring 50 60 every night You know, I'm gonna be no with two champions great. He's a great role player Should be a role player discussion about role players and we cool with that do not try to fucking compare each other nobly But no, no, we're not trying to come No, it's no joke. Yeah, I'm I stand on my work Cuz I can tell you already Google we say yes Google this shit. He plays 65 games as the number one option

Tim Duncan and and Tony Parker was no he was the number one focal point. What was the stats? What do you think I'd be like? 42, 38? What do you think? 13! 13.

That shit ain't easy when them two niggas off the court, ain't it? When Tim Duncan and Tony Parker off the court, that shit ain't easy, ain't it? It's easy when the good players are... It ain't the same. It ain't the same, huh? Everybody's focused. Hey, here he come. Jordan Poole having a problem right now.

It's easy when Steph Curry and Klay and Draymond on the court and no one guarding you and you out there barbecuing everybody. They gone. The whole defense is focused on you. Shit ain't goddamn easy like that. Difference when you're on that scouting

report. Top of the top. That scouting report, hey, when motherfuckers be like, oh yeah, you just one-liner. Oh, Jordan Poo like to go boom, boom, boom. That's it. When it becomes you, like, oh shit. Hey, he coming up. Right, left, push him this way. That's what Scott Charles,

that's what they start doing. I saw that happen myself. My rookie season beginning a year. Nobody knew about Tim Legler. Mm-hmm I'm saying Tim Legler. I've seen him in practice. He was you know hitting shots and everything He could shoot three went to LaSalle. I saw him at LaSalle playing well training Doug over ten and shit. So legs a good shooter He won that a three-point contest and he became, on that scouting report, man, he probably hit like about four or five threes the second

half of that season. And I'm saying that to say, yo, as you mentioned, it's a whole different world when you're on that scouting report. Yeah. Great season. And then last season he struggled a little bit. Now you want that scout report.

He probably was the third or fourth person on the scout report. No, no, but that's what I'm saying. That scout report, when you get on that scout report, ah. Hey, Cole, who this? Mm-hmm. All right. Mm-hmm. Okay, mainly left.

Okay, if he goes right, okay, up and under. Mm-hmm. Hey, you're not homeboy. I know about you today, boy. Yeah, that ain't gonna work today boy. I.E. Jeremy Lin. Yup. When he came into the league he was frickin' seeing everybody dog.

Oh man. Cracking them. Cracking them. Now you came on that scouting report and them top tiers is on it. It's different. Disappeared like a Houdini trick. But that's why like when you ask a Hooper who's the best six man? They'd be like Jamal Crawford and Lou

Because when they became number one options and you had to give him the ball 50 40 you like who would rather have Between them same to you just see with Tim Duncan. No, no between Jamal Crawford and between Tyloo Oh, I mean, excuse me, not Ty Lue. Let me pepper Lou Will. My man Lou Will. Excuse me, Lou Will, not Ty Lue, Lou Will. Who did you say? I'm going to go with Jamal.

Only because I got height, I got height, a little bit more flash. That's a tough one for me. When he really wants, because he going to get you buckets. Damn, Lou plays a whole different game though. Hey, I'm gonna get I know both of them gonna get you back I think I think I think Jake Crawford gonna get you ignorant, but yeah, yeah I might make you fall or something like that That's that guard shit I'm saying that y'all be like Luke gonna give you that, he gonna get people in foul trouble.

Yeah, he gonna get people in foul trouble. He gonna manipulate that. He gonna manipulate that penalty. Ah, yeah, that's a good one. Ooh. That's like 51-49 for me. I ain't... Okay, 51.

50.5. 50.5, Jamal Crawford. Okay. Okay. But that's Crawford. Okay. But that's an argument right there. Let's talk about this current NBA back-to-the-end-season tournament. We've got to talk about these Pelicans. They pulled up to Sacramento, stunned the Kings to become the second team to advance to the Final Four.

They are 3-0 against the Kings this season. They battled the injury bug to start, but seemed to be as healthy as they've been all year. But we've got to shift the focus. We got to talk about Zion. Struggled in the game, finished with 10 points in 28 minutes, also had four turnovers. During halftime of the game, Charles Barkley ripped him and said the following. This is the first time that I'm going to sit and watch Zion play a full game. He's not in shape. He doesn't run. He plays the game strictly on talent. He never runs on a fast break.

He's kind of like jogging on offense and defense. Somebody has got to get a hold of him because he's got so much talent. He's going to be somewhat successful. He could be special. So this is Zion's fifth season in league he missed one obviously with injury

But bark has only watched one full game of his which is and I'm pretty sure he he really watched that that game by the fact that Zion First year he on TV and all the all these you got a gotta like what were you watching when he was playing? Whatever No, it lets you know Yes, what ESPN really be doing when a game going on then motherfuckers be here on his phone Chilling on the phone.

That's TNT. Yeah, TNT. They be on the shit, and then when it's time for them to talk, they can put their earpiece in, they look at their notes. Okay, yeah, yeah. So, you know, Zion's having a horrible game. You're just hearing what they're saying. You didn't watch the game. You don't know what it really looks like.

You're not watching none of these players. You're just putting the earbud in, and whatever they're telling you, you didn't watch the game. You don't know what it really looks like. You're not watching none of these players. You're just putting the earbud in and whatever they're telling you, you're repeating it. That's why they sound stupid sometimes, y'all. But do you, in this particular case, do you agree or disagree with Chuck's criticism of Zion? I mean, yeah, okay. He's not in

the shape he was, obviously, when he first came into the league. He's still trying to get his his rhythm back but zion's whole career has been hustle points putting himself in position they're not like calling plays for him when he was at duke it was just he just played harder than everybody else that was his thing i just play harder than everybody else i'm gonna get all my offensive rebound like most of his stuff is offensive rebound slash and cutting and stuff than everybody else. That was his thing. I just play harder than everybody else. I'm going to get all my offensive rebounds. Like, most of his stuff is offensive rebounds,

slashing, cutting, and stuff. You know, so... Some of it is right. Some of it is wrong. Like, if you watch the game and watch how he played, you will understand, like, Zion.

Lex, what do you think about just watching Zion bark these comments? Yeah, I think they were harsh for being the first time he's watched him play. I mean, I don't think Zion is in shape. Like, he doesn't look in shape. But that's been his struggle, you know, his entire career. And I don't like talking about people's body and their weight, obviously,

because, like, that could be a sensitive thing. He could really be dealing with something serious that we know nothing about. I don't think that, you think that he's over these injuries. I feel like he's playing through some things, probably. But yeah, I think he's getting a little older in that wild, athletic, bully ball. It's exhausting to play like that. And if you don't have the stamina to play like that,

you're not really doing anything out there. And I think that's what we're seeing. And obviously Zion battled some injury in his first couple seasons in the league. Played 18 games this year. We saw him in Vegas and Gil. You talked to him about just the struggles of being young on the road, having the room service menu, all that stuff at your disposal, playing in a city like New Orleans, obviously with their culinary exploits. But he's playing 30 minutes a game. It seems like he's getting back into it. He talked a little bit earlier this season, too,

about just kind of buying into the system and trying to figure out what was going on there. But, Shee, when you look at Zion, do you think it's a body issue, a health issue, or what do you think is going on? Man, I think it's a little bit of a combination of a lot of everything. Some of it is what Barkley said. He did hit a couple points on it, in my opinion, with it.

And I think Zion is an incredible athlete. And as you just mentioned a second ago, Lexi, when he was younger, I had the privilege to see him at Duke being down there at Carolina. So, you know, I seen a young fella do some amazing fucking things down there. But again, that's his younger stage. And so I think what's making him this lethargic player as Barkley tried to explain

and where we're seeing less athleticism from him at is, you know, he might be still dealing with a couple of ailing injuries. You know, like, we're athletes, so you know how that goes, you know. Like, shit, you could be dealing with an ankle injury you had your 10th grade year in high school, but yet now you've grown, you had your careers and everything, but it's all part of it. So with him, the diet also comes in there um you know you can't be having uh you got to hire people you got to have people around you who are on positivity you got to hire the right people the right chefs because it's like look we're just looking at now

but you got to look at the long run like you with your career man you definitely got to eat right you know and throughout your career your diet is going to change it has to change and you know he's putting on that muscle with being in the weight room you know he's he's a pretty big guy but with that muscle you know you got to be able to beat Limber. Yeah. You know, in my opinion, I think he should have went to the NFL coming out of Duke because, man, he was big, strong, fast. He would have been a hell of a defensive end. What? He looked like a bigger Julius Peppers.

Man, I mean, like, come on, bro. But, you know, he chose basketball. But, I mean, he's a hell of an athlete, but it's just he got to have the right people in his corner, in his ear, and you got to have the right people in his corner, in his ear. And you got to be it. You, you, as that professional athlete, you got to stick with that shit because, man, this is me. This is my health in the long run. You know, because eventually, okay, it's fucking with my games.

So now with the games, it's doing what? Fucking with my money. So now it's fucking with my money. That's cutting shit short for when? In the long run. The diet in the NBA, it's a real thing, especially for different body types. If you're in the NBA, summer's easy for us

because with the heat going on, we're not as hungry. It's like we're moving more in the summer than we are, you know, during the season. Once the season starts, that's when really all our problems occur because we're traveling from city to city. We're on plane food. We're drinking a lot of Gatorade.

We're in a strip club. We drink, we're partying, right? So, you know, we can. We're in a strip club. We drink, we're partying. Right? So, you know, we can catch calories like in a week. Yeah. Especially if you're not playing a lot of minutes

because you're not practicing. Like, summer, you're training every day. Yeah. Three, four, five hours a day. Yep. When the season hits, you're not playing heavy minutes.

You're not training. You're sitting a lot. Yeah. I know that firsthand. Like, that's hard to do. Like, you're sitting a lot. Yeah. I know that firsthand. Like, that's hard to do. Like, you go from training, playing all the time. Season starts, you on the bench. Like, how am I supposed to stay in shape?

How am I supposed to keep my body right if four days out of the week I'm not doing anything? Mm-hmm. Yeah. You go to that trip, like, Miami, Atlanta, New York, right, and a seven-day span, man, you can gain nine pounds, man. You know what I mean? Off a liquor alone. Just all, yeah.

You come to the game, you looked all cute in Miami, you all swollen in the face in Atlanta. I, damn, I need to get in the sauna. But that's a thing that he will have to worry about. He will have to worry about, like, mentally keeping your summer routine during the NBA season and not trying to be. Or even more harder. Harder, yeah.

Because now, as you just mentioned, we don't have a game. We ain't got practice. So, shit, now I can work out or you know i'm saying do what i need to do to take care of myself longer yeah that's it so let's talk a little bit about just this in-season tournament as a whole so after getting some hate when it was first announced in-season tournament has been a huge success uh viewership for the november tournament game saw an increase of 20 on on ESPN compared to last season. And the NBA announced that the league

had the highest attendance at games for November in league history. Gil, I see the notebook. I see the sheets of paper. I know you've been waiting for this moment. But I'm just saying, I had to just see if this shit was true. So do all the people who were hating

on the in-season tournament owe Adam Silver and the league an apology? Yes. No. Change the courts, please. So do all the people who were hating on the NC the tournament Oh Adam silver in the league and apology Yes No the courts, please. Ah I hate the court. I'm gonna let y'all talk for listen My daughter helped me with the she had to do this She had to pull out a calculator and we had to go do some research and before she went to school so No, they got a thank Draymond Green.

They gotta thank Draymond Green, because before he choked the shit out of that Frenchman. Oh. Before he choked the shit out of that Frenchman. That's what made it spicy? Yeah, like, like, November 3rd game, only two games were sold out. November 10th, five out of the nine games were sold out November 10 5 out of the 9 games are sold out the 14

It was 50 50 so 5 and hold out 10 games and after he put that motherfucker that so cold war 7 out of 11 games are sold out and oversold You know so so there's some teams out here that they over selling their tickets. So they got like 18,000 seats. They selling like 19, 10. So they putting people somewhere. That's how it works. Hey, y'all walk the concourse. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

So they got the next one, the 21st, four out of five was sold out. The 24th, seven out of the 10 games were sold out. November 28th, six out of the ten games were sold out. November 28th, six out of the eight games were sold out. Sold and oversold. Yeah, I mean, I agree with that. They selling it. From that choke. That choke.

Everybody's like, I got to go watch the motherfucker get choked out. But then that was when Anthony Davis pushed the dude later that night. Yeah. It was the same night. And that's when in-season tournament became spicy. later that night. Yeah, it was the same night and that's when in season turn We became spice became something. Yeah, cuz before that I mean before that it was that man it was I got the notes man I got I got attended. I looked at I got everybody attended. This is my daughter. I got everybody attendance game by game Loose leaf there. She had a shit rip it

Go to school. That's old school. Yeah, she had to rip it and go to school. I'm not trying to be a script. This is a script. No, I mean, my opinion on that IST shit, man, it's a money grab. For sure. Because for me, yo, they not playing no games different than the regular season. You supposed to be playing like this any fucking way. You know what I'm saying?

You already in the league. You already making in the league. You're already making, you know, millions of dollars. Granted, as you said before, no matter if it's three, four million,

up until, you know, the higher echelon, but still, you're making more than the average person that want to play basketball and you're part of

an elite club already. So, nah, motherfucker, you're supposed to be playing like this. So, now you got to come up

with a gimmick to make you play harder? It is. To me come up with a gimmick to make you play harder? To me, it is a gimmick. It's like, okay, so you're offering millionaires more money. Money, yeah. It's funny. Nah.

This shit. Hey, offer me some property. I'll play hard for some motherfucking property. You know what I'm saying? Offer me, you know what I'm saying, some other shit that, yeah, granted, I know my money can buy, but shit. I mean, come on. Like, for me, you're supposed to be

playing hard anyway, dog. Because your ultimate goal is the chip. It ain't my fault you on a shitty team, but on that shitty team, guess what happens? Just like football. If I keep playing hard, keep playing hard, trade deadline come, guess where I could be traded to? I could be traded to a contender.

But you can see that money and the trophy, it motivated some players more than others. Is it? It did. And I think it made, it annoyed a lot of, not a a lot it annoyed some players like even with the point differential stuff Like you saw some of the players kind of getting annoyed with that. It's good They get the put they put they they get to play to the end of the game Yeah, I can suppose players say like them that they were mad that teams were playing so the end of the buzzer

I was just like yeah, cuz the media Know what I'm saying because media made it cool until the end of the buzzer, I was just like... Yeah, because the media... You're supposed to play. No, but that's what I'm saying, because media made it cool... Media made it cool to... take your foot off the player's neck. Yeah. Right? Oh, you're up 20.

Sportsman life, you shouldn't be able to shoot that ball. That is a bad shot. Oh, okay. You know what I mean? That's a bad shot. Why are you taking that's a bad shot why are you taking that shot and you sit back and say you didn't you you didn't say that shit when he just motherfucker just got the rebound ran i remember watching new york i think his name was peyton right and some peyton he came down got got the rebound, came down, shot it. Boom, right? They came down, ran off. He came down, got the ball, shot it, got the steal, shot it. And then what ended up happening, they turned the ball over and the dude shot it. He pushed the dude out of bounds.

You took three shots in 13 seconds and you mad, dude shot the ball? Because they're up. That's what it's created. It's created this loser mentality. That's selfish. Alfred Payton. Yeah, they created this loser mentality that you supposed to help me out.

I get to come at you hard and you supposed to just take your time. And the fact that this is like soccer and shit, a bunch of losers who come up with shit like this, that you know, you guys are too good for us. We don't want to keep scoring anymore. Don't keep scoring so everybody feels like they won.

Right? That's what it is in basketball sportsman like Kanda. If we're up by 20, we want to beat you by 30. We want to beat you by 40 four. They don't do that shit in Europe No And I love Steve Spurrier good when he was coaching down there in Florida and The motherfuckers was beating people like 77 and like like you're well good

Yeah, like don't get mad at me because my third string is better than your third string. You know, shit. So we going to play. No, I'm not running the ball to save face. No, fuck that. Stop me, bitch. Just like, till them zeros go. Stop me.

If not, hey, we going to run a 42 flank left, right, going down long slant in the middle for the touchdown. Man. I mean, like, I know people don't really get it because they think that the sportsman like Connick's a real thing. It is. It ain't. We're not getting into certain issues. Like, look, if your team, if the two starters played, the top eight players played their thing, and one team is up 20, right? And then, sup, sup.

It's zero to zero. Those guys work their ass off just as hard. They come and play a real game. Yes. Right? So now the team that's winning, right, they got to come in because we up 20. We can't really play basketball. But the other group get to play like they hungry.

Because they're down. Because they're down. Because they're down. Like, nah, man. Fuck him. All right, I feel you at that point. But what is it? All right, so let's say it's the end of the game. Your guys, y'all niggas been killing them all fucking night, dog,

with everything. Backdoor plays, y'all been out-rebounding them, y'all. Out-shot them from the foul line. Y'all out-shot them from the three. All of that, all of the stats is going y'all way. Y'all up like about 40, 45. Hey, now for me, I beat you at every aspect of the game that you could think of.

All right? So now I'm going to take that. I'm going to go ahead and have that sportsmanship because, yo, all right, ain't shit else you could do, literally all right we're going we're gonna ease up off the pedal now but now we already up 40 with like two minutes left but I so we're gonna do run offense and but I feel like when you do that if you're gonna do that you keep keep the players in the game don't clear your bench for

two minutes for them to go out there and tiptoe. But I gotta clear my bench, though, because the same motherfuckers that ran a score, I want them to run a score up tomorrow, too. But what am I saying? But let them go in and play hard. So now your bench players are not coming in playing hard because you want them to take their foot off the gas?

No, no. I don't want them to take their foot off the gas. You know what I'm saying? You're coming in, as you just said a second ago, both benches are clear because the opposing coach is like, all right, I don't want to get my players hurt. Let me put the subs in there. So, no, if your subs going hard, even vice versa, if I'm down 30 and my subs come in and play harder than your subs,

fuck yeah. Or if you up 30 and your subs come in and play harder than mine, well shit. They ain't run that shit. My thing is this, if you keep your starters in, I keep my starters in. I keep mine in, yeah. That's, because it's usually, have you know? The losing team got their starters in.

Yeah, that's how you know. Yeah, have you noticed whenever there's this big thing, the losing team always got their starters in. Have you ever noticed that? Yeah, they cover the points for it. Cover the points for it. They still trying to get their little points because they got D'd up the whole motherfucking night. Team always got these starters in have you ever noticed that? They still trying to get a little points because they got beat up the whole motherfucking night Thing is you let me know you quit when you take your starters out as long as you got your best player in I'm keeping My best play I'm with you with my life. I know my best player got 50, but your best player still is so

No, you got a threat. I don't know what your threat capable of he might hit some some six-pointers. I don't know about You know me I don't want my doodle because this is the worst thing and I know you felt this before You done shut a motherfucker down right he got nothing you sit down Third string came in right now Now he want to get loose. He and that motherfucker torturing, talking shit. Now he got 20. Now when you look at that stat sheet,

he look like he did that shit on you. He be like, oh, hell no, coach. No, man, I had that motherfucker zero. Go to the field.

Go to the field. Yeah, yeah, now you got to do that shit. But yeah, they're not doing that. It wasn't me. He didn't have nothing on me. So let's keep this thing moving.

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What's so funny? They getting all the personalities that yeah all the personalities that are actually Content not not the yes, man. Yeah I've been following y'all see what y'all been doing here You know saying seeing the whole new shit with cam and mace like see like hey, that's what we can't get fired Okay, you're not gonna go as aggressive fired. You're not going to go as aggressive as me. I'm not going to go aggressive as Cam. So we good. I love it.

Yeah, I'm glad to be part of the fam. We put the N in network. Shout out to my guy, Tim. For sure put the N in network. We coming for all y'all. We coming for all y'all. And we're going to talk about how much bread y'all got. We like to share around here so we can really get our bags across.

Under there, I've been doing some sneaky shit. We see y'all. And we're going to talk about how much bread y'all got. We like to share around here so we can really get our bags across. Under there, I've been doing some sneaky shit. We see y'all. What's up, Kevin and Max? How y'all doing? So, she, yesterday you said you had a great Ruben Patterson and Zeebo story that you would share the next time you came on the show. Oh, damn. You really going to call me on that? Damn.

Well, it is the next time. The next time is the next time. I wasn't expecting it to be, like, is the next time the next time is it I wasn't expecting it to be like the very next time I thought it was gonna be like, you know the next time It is a new day a new 24-hour window You could you could uh, you know edit it as much as you like man., no, shout out. All right. So shout out to my, first of all, both of my guys, you know, Zach and. Very well respected on the show. Hey, before you start your story, y'all had a hell of a team in Portland.

The talent, I just thought, like you have Zeebo and Jermaine O'Neal is under that umbrella. No, well, under the umbrella, but not at the same time. Yeah. But you played with both of them. Both of my young boys. Jermaine, like, Jermaine, that's my guy. He came straight out of high school. He was one of the few.

He came, you know, during that whole Kobe era. Yeah, yeah. Came straight out of high school, and, like, I haven't seen, and they talk about a lot of people from that draft with him but real talk i haven't seen nobody work harder than him out his draft dog because he came in straight out of high school now high school yeah you was big deal but you came to the league so your high school rankings don't mean shit he came came in there, I don't know the reasons for Portland drafting him, but I'm glad they

did because, man, young fella. We all seen the player Jermaine O'Neal became, like fuck. But you think that's because he got to play against you and practice against you all the time? I mean, I wouldn't say it was necessarily me, I would have to say I helped. Because, man, like, myself, Cliff Robinson, shout out to Unc, and Gary Trent. Man, we was... That's a crew.

Senior. Gary Trent, senior. That is a crew that'll get your mind right. We was beating his ass every day in practice. We was like, man, this young pissant ain't gonna come in thinking da-da-da-da. You know, we already had a... I had about two years in the league already at the time, you know, so I'm thinking I'm a vet, man, this young piss ain't going to come in thinking da-da-da-da. You know, we already had a, I had about two years in the league already at the time, you know, so I'm thinking I'm a vet.

But, you know, Uncle Cliffy, he's like, man, this young motherfucker ain't going to come in here thinking he's going to be doing this and that. So, you know, that's where that whole veteran leadership came into play, that veteran pride. And, man, but Jermaine, dog, he, hey, I will say, young fella was in the weight room before practice. Young fella was in the weight room after practice. And this is for the year and a half, close to two years he played in Portland before he got traded. And, man, his work ethic was through the roof, man. You could see it on his face like, yo, I really wish when he became that household name that he was, that we could have played together because God damn, that

young fella. And same thing with Zach. Zach, Z-Bo, Z-Bo, the guy Z-Bo. Z-Bo, he's under the basket. He going to do all that dirty work. The same shit as we all looking for that shot. When somebody put a shot up, what's the first thing you going to do? Mm-hmm. Zach, he looking at you. Yep. Bang, get in position for that rebound. Zach came in.

He made a lot of money in this league, too. And he doing well in the record business right now, low key. Yep. But, man, yeah, them was my two young fellas, man. And, you know shit bonzi we we had a squad out there in portland dog damon see i played with some dudes out there yeah yeah some legends all right so what's the story yeah see good job tea. Nice tea, nice tea. Alright.

So we called it the slam herd around the world. Right? So you know, we in practice one day and so my guy, shout out to my guy Quintel Woods. So Quintel and Zach, they rolly.

You know, you can't see one without seeing the other. So Quintel and Zack, they rollie. You can't see one without seeing the other. That's how close they were, which is a good thing. Don't get me wrong, it was a good thing. So we in practice, and again, I'm talking shit in practice. I'm going hard in practice because that'll make the game easy. So we in there talking shit, going at it. And so, Rube being Ruben, Patterson being up. You know, him and Quintel had some beef because

Quinn just didn't like the way he was so aggressive on the court. Like, damn, dog, like, let me live. I don't get no minutes as it is, but like, damn, even in practice, I can't live. So, Rue was like man I'm trying to live to low-key and man So it came down to it So we in the locker room me Bonzi We we we defense McMahon

Right we hyping shit up. Oh What man my guys Ebo man he ain't going for that bullshit. Da-da-da-da-da-da. And then Bonzi's like, man, what, man? Rude, man, man, man, this and that. Da-da-da-da-da-da. Going back and forth, right? So we in a hot tub.

In Portland, they just had us a new practice facility, built a big-ass hot tub that's probably like the size of this floor and shit. So we all in the hot tub, right? It's about seven dudes in there. And we get to talking shit. So we all in the hot tub, right? It's about seven dudes in there and we get to talking shit. You know, me and Bonzi. So we like this and that. Man, you gonna let

them talk to you like that, man? Fuck that. My guy this and that. So boom. We go into the dressing room area of the locker room. Now they get to scrapping. They lock up like WWF. They locking up. They locking up. They locking up.

Zack had him. Zack had him. But Zack lifted up. And man, I swear to goodness, Rube did some like Olympic gold medal technical shit. All he did was shift his body a little bit, and that put Zach out of position. So you know in the locker rooms, it's that industrial carpet that's like a micro fracture

of an inch thick. And then it's concrete under yo boom rude slam zach and we was all like oh shit and we called it the slam herd around the world and man that was that was me and bonzie fought right there you, Zach was out for about like two weeks, dog. Yeah. Instigated. From a fucked up back, dog. Like, we felt real bad. Like, damn.

What we called the slam herd around the world. Right? So, reason being, now we kept that shit in house. You know how you keep shit in house

in a locker room. That's all, y'all. So, we like, how that shit get out even to other teams? So we had cats on other teams as of like two, three days later, like, yo, what happened in the locker room, dog? Like, we heard about that shit.

We was like, oh, man, that shit wasn't supposed to get out. It was on some, you know, some team camaraderie funny shit, but yeah, we took that shit a little too far man did you find the leak who do you think the mole was it didn't matter okay that's it it didn't matter you gotta like damn when my guy got slammed we all felt bad they get his payback oh yeah yeah yeah I know you wanted to see. No, no, that's what I'm saying. I didn't want to say it, but, you know, just to... Because he going to, like, yo, why you ain't tell him I got my payback?

So, all right, so, you know, bam, my man Rube slams Zach. So here it is. A couple weeks later, Zach comes back. So now him, Zach, and Q, they feeling some type of back. So now, him, Zach and Q, they feeling some type of way. So we in practice. And yo, so Rube and

Q, Quintel, they having a little beef over, you know, a little foul and shit. So, you know, Coach like, alright, yeah, man, whatever. It was a foul. You know, let's get back to playing. But man, they took that shit personal, so you know, they was face to face, like Rube and Quintel, like this, face to face. And then we all saw it, I didn't expect it. Out of nowhere, Zack came in, pow, hit Rube in his face,

he hit him in his eye, and as we found out later, that he fractured his orbital socket. God damn. Right? Oh my God. I was never more scared in the NBA at this time, period. And I done seen some some shit been through some shit he turned into the incredible Hulk Rube Patterson turned into the he just didn't turn green

like he got more blacker and Rube turned into the yo it took like nine people to stop him like on everything. I put it on my dead peeps It took like nine people to stop Rube from getting that Zack, right? So, you know, we all trying to hold him back. It's me, Pip, Bonube, another time. Fuck that. I'm going to kill him, G. I'm going to kill him. Oh, I'm going to get my hands on him. I'm going to kill him. I'm like, oh, my gosh. He's going to choke this nigga to death.

So I go in the locker room. And who in the locker room just chilling? Like, you know what I mean? Like, it ain't nothing. You know, Zach like, shit, I'm about to take my shower. I'm like, bro, what are you doing here, man? If you don't get the fuck out of here, dog. You don't realize there's heat on your neck. I'm like, if you don't get the fuck out of here, no.

Shower at home. Take all your practice shit, you and Q. Y'all get the fuck out of here, dog. Because I don't know how long we can hold the Hulk back. Damn. You tell me. Adam, December 2nd, he's in there on vacation. Like, yeah. We got him. I had a December 2 thing to do on vacation. Like, yeah. We got him.

I'm telling you, it was me, Dale Davis, Yeah. Bonzi, and Pitt. We all grabbed Rube. Nah, Rube,

calm down. We know with some bullshit, this and that. I'm telling you, dog, he threw all of us off of him. He's like, ah, he's running after, I'm going to kill him. Like, dog, like, no, Rube. No, Rube, no. We don't want

you to go to jail. We don't want you to kill him. Like, bro, Rube, that got him back, but, hey. They said he was in there playing Uno. They said, y'all out there having a hard time. They said, quit telling us. Connect four. You got four.

The old fish, like, they didn't. They might as well, dude. I know, right? I'm like, bro, y'all don't hear this ruckus out here? We trying to keep, y'all don't hear all this yelling and growling, and we trying to keep them from,all don't hear all this yelling and growling and we trying to keep him from, everybody NBA career would have been over. No, yes.

They, them two, they said, like they just did it and forgot. It was like, yeah, when he get it, he get it, he gonna jump him. Well, I'm glad it panned out though. And in the end, you know, we ended up making a playoff and all this and that so everybody's cool By cool cool enough, but they were cool enough to continue Now I can't say what'll happen if they saw each other today or whatever. I can't all right Well, hopefully that we increase the peace Because they're playing tic-tac-toe

mo You were like wait what the you know, we we got them we holding them back then You know how you know how much you do not have to care about nothing. And y'all just sitting there just chilling like nothing happened in years. So what are we going to do after practice, man? We're going to go eat. Go get us a sandwich. Like Brumman and the Fifth Float.

What you doing? I can tell y'all a lot of shit. There ain't enough time. We're going to have you back on the show soon. And you got the sheet in Tyler's show. So save some stuff for that. In due near. There ain't enough time. Shee, we're going to have you back on the show soon. And you got the Sheed and Tyler show. So save some stuff for that. In due time. You know, early 2024.

Make sure y'all subscribe to the Underdog NBA channel. And if you're a fan of the show and you want us to help keep the lights on, download the Underdog Fantasy app. Use promo code GIL to get you a $100 deposit match. Help us help you. Okay? They said the numbers are looking good. They can always be better.

But, Shee, we got a huge chat, a huge fan base that watch the show every day So yesterday seeing the chat buzz and we had other things we needed to discuss But I got to ask you this several people in the chat avid gamers want to know why you aren't on NBA 2k CTC They got to cut the check You're not gonna offer me ten thousand dollars for shit. you're making minimum in three, four months, $500 million on. Okay. CTC. Break bread. Cut it simple.

Cut the check. So everybody... Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. So you just were like, I don't want to be in the game. CTC. CTC. CTC.

Scottie Pippen ain't on either right or Barkley or Barkley CTC yeah I thought she would dip it on us let's cut his audio please okay you already know intermission we are a live show ladies and gentlemen we are a live show whatever she want he do and that's what it is but I didn't know we could just get up and go. But yeah, so like with the retired players, for them to be on the game, you got to actually sign a deal with them. Oh, individually? Every year. Okay.

They don't make money? If you don't see a player on there, that means they haven't signed their rights. They don't get money for? No, no, you have to negotiate with them. So there's a retirement leave, huh? Yeah, I signed yeah for a couple of huns. And then I got an A, you know, the AAU program. I said, I need 50 games, too, for the kids and all that.

And, you know, I started A. I need to be, it was Black Storm car, and I need to be Pink Diamond car. Because it's kids, right? I'm thinking about, like, the longevity of it. Like, these kids only know you from basically video games. So, you know, like I asked my son, yo, what's the best car?

Oh, you got to be a pink diamond or you got to be a black star. It was like some black. So when you're a retired player in the game, you just have the same, like you can't go up and down. No, you can go up and down, but what ends up happening is

like because you are negotiating your deal, if they really want you, they're going to negotiate. So let's say they're offering 10, right? I'm going to say, all right, I'll take two grand, but you got to make me a legendary card. I'm playing like this is a contract. I want a pink diamond quarter, a card, like, whatever that top tier. When these kids are spending their money, there's certain cards they're looking for, right? So I'll take less money to get in that category because that's the only way they know you. Yeah.

They can't watch the game no more. So they only know you by what they see on the video games. So if they be like, oh, you unlocked this Black Diamond card, I'd be like, who the fuck is that? Oh, shit, you know what I mean? Like, oh, let me put him in front of Chris Paul or Curry because they ain't unlocked Curry's black card. So Curry's regular, my pink diamond card will trump that.

So they're like, oh, we're going to sell him out for Curry. Put him in until they get Curry's what's-his-name card. But here's the thing though You're you're doing in-app sales you're saying you're you're doing so and I watch it from a Bonzi playing and sometimes you know when we chillin out my kids, you know, my two sons playing it like alright I'm watching so they won't practice time to make their man better so what they do you got to buy gym time you get a head for it right and with that guess what else you buying you buying sneakers you buying

outfits you buying all the tattoos all this shit is in-app purchases right that they charging everybody for across the country now again i'm just speaking in the country i ain't even talking worldwide in the country you buying all these in-store ads oh i want my player to come down and shake and bake i want him to look good with sunglasses on or whatever the fuck he got on yo all that's bread so now you mean to tell me you're only trying to offer me ten thousand,000. And they wanted me on two teams. Two teams for $10,000. On that 99 Portland team and on the 0-4 Detroit team

for $10,000. And you're offering other players $10,000 for one team? Yo, EAD. Fuck out of here. For those of us who don't know what the acronym EAD stands for, would you care to elaborate?

I pretty think they can get it. EDA. I knew. We have a young lady sitting here, so I'm not going to get too vulgar. Black matter. It was black matter. I knew what it was. But your sons want to play, though.

No, to be honest, as a coach, as a coach, though, believe it or not, the 10,000 and you say, all right, make me a Black Matter player, which means that when they're paying for it, they have to unlock you. Right? And when they unlock you as a player, you're basically a Hall of Fame player to them. That's what they'll know you by. Like, I got popularity just because of the video game. Mm-hmm. Right? Because your Black Matter card would be better than Giannis' regular card.

Well, I got to be a Black Matter card, though. That's what they call it. It's like top tier. I guess. It's top tier. So it's pink. That's some bullshit right there. No, but it's like pink diamond Black Matter, right That's some bullshit right there. No, but it's like pink diamond, black matter, right?

The fuck is black matter? No, no, no. No, I'm not black matter. Dark matter. It's called dark matter. Oh, okay. I'm sorry, I'm not black matter. It's called dark matter.

It's black diamond. They're saying dark matter. Dark matter, right? So the dark matter card. So, like, if a player got that, that would be better than Giannis or what's the name's regular card. So they'll all sub you out, and that's all they know. That's fine. But that in height is now, you'd be like, kids be like, yo, I want to sign up.

I want to sign up. Here's my kid. You'd be like, where are you coming from? That's how I looked at it. I looked at it because, you know, I'm on social media. That's fine. Yeah. But my thing, nah.

Pay me. The motherfucking developers, nah. EA, y'all paid that bread. Mm-hmm. CTC. I ain't trying to hear that. CTC, EA. I need that black matter card.

Because look, real talk. Dark matter. Real talk. Think about it. Now, you know, and I'm not saying this to degrade the quality of player that he was or whatever, but you think that they offer Michael Jordan $10,000 for that? And I'm not trying to compare myself to him.

I'm just saying we both played in the NBA. We both retired. Yeah, granted he had a better career than I did, but y'all motherfuckers came after me. I ain't call y'all. I ain't call EA Sports, yo, put me on this game, man. Like, my kids want to see me. I ain't call y'all. I ain't call EA Sports, yo, put me on this game, man.

Like, my kids want to see me. Nah, y'all motherfuckers came at me. So, if y'all come at me right, don't come at me with no bullshit. If I want you to do something for me, Gil, I'm not going to say, Gil, I want you to host this event for me for $5,000

and you got to make your way there. You're going to look at me like, man, she fuck out of here. You know what I'm saying? It's going to cost me five just to get there. But if I tell you, Gil, we got the first class flights, you know, for you or whoever to come out to host our event, this and that, da-da-da-da, you're going to be like,

all right, that's going to be what? More enticing. Yep. So, yeah. So get the enticing, Gil. I'm on riding 2K. Man, tickle my fancy. You know go on Ronnie 2k man tickle my fancy Make this shit worthwhile. Yeah, see we see we see you be

They fix it in Ronnie 2k You got a nice little pony so you guys you got a regular ponytail. I got beef to it They don't have none of my tweets in the game. I don't know what the fuck's going on. Yeah, nobody they don't I'm seeing all my homies I'm seeing all my homies like oh look at my shit in the game Look at my shit in the game me. I'm excited the house who K players who was getting under dog in the comments I'm not ball headed. Okay, but that good here I don't know that'm talking about, Lady Brown. Let them know. We all got great.

No, they did the WNBA wrong. All they did was just... Oh, yeah. All they did was just took all the players that don't play and just put girl faces on them. It was weird. WNBA. The first season we were in the game, we looked good. That was like four or five years ago,

and it just got worse and worse, which I don't play today, but I'm really cute. I don't care if y'all play the WNBA or not. No matter if it just got worse and worse. Which I don't play today, but I want to look cute. I don't care if y'all play the WNBA or not. No matter if it's a game or not. Everyone's like, nobody plays that anyway. I don't care. I still want to look cute in the game. I'm in it.

I want to look like myself. Now, 2K, you put me in the game, I might be able to convince she. We'll figure it out. I can do some negotiations for y'all. You hung your hat. Okay, I'm glad y'all picked up'all. You hung your hat. Okay, I'm glad y'all picked up that one. You hung your hat. You know, I throw some shit out there sometimes to see if he's paying attention.

Hung your hat on defense. Who was your toughest matchup when you were in the league? When you look back, who was the guy you knew every night he was going to bring it? For me, it was a handful of dudes because I played in an era of some good skilled power forwards. I knew I had to bring it against Tim Duncan. I knew I had to bring it against KG. As I mentioned before, them was guys I had to go to sleep early for.

I knew I had to bring it against Webb. C Webb, with him being the type of player that he was, put it on the floor, outside, inside, you know, give you all the guard shit, but as a 6'10 player. I knew I had to go to sleep before Antonio McDyess. Dyess was a hard matchup defensively for me because he was just as quick as I was. I think the only thing that gave me the advantage over him was I was

Ancient have two inches taller than him. Well, um other than that, those are I would say in my you know beef of my career They that gave me problems real real night, you know night in night out My most overall? The old head, Terry Cummings. Shout out to legend Terry Cummings. I went to college with his son TJ. That's my boy. We were roommates in college.

I couldn't do shit with him, dog, on everything. And this was, you know, he was on his last few stages. It was my rookie season. At the time, he was playing with Milwaukee. Yeah. And, bro, they gave him that ball. He backing me down, getting and doing whatever he want. All right. So at the time, as a rookie, when I did get the ball down there, I'm like this.

You ain't going nowhere. It's like I'm trying to back up the wall. Frustrated, passed that shit out. It was nothing I could do with him. I couldn't score. I couldn't post him up. I couldn't stop him. So halftime, I was like, all right. They showed the tape, showed the film. I was like, shit, only thing I could do is out running. So that's all I could do. But, man, that was my most toughest defensive matchup in the league. I didn't know what to do.

I didn't know. He could put it on the floor. At that age, of course, he wasn't athletic, but skill set took over for youth and athleticism, which I had. I didn't know all the NBA tricks. And I know you know a lot of them guard tricks now, but you was a sucker for love then because we all fell for it. We all fell for the tricks back then.

But it was part of it. And, man, yeah, Terry Cummings, dog, shout out to the old head. Yeah, I think he recently was getting his jersey retired at DePaul this season. Word. That's what's up. Me and TJ went to UCLA together. We're roommates. Our dads got traded for each other.

Okay. So my pops was playing in Milwaukee. He was playing with the Clippers, San Diego Clippers. They ended up getting traded for each other. Damn, y'all heard that? The San Diego Clippers. Back in the day, bud. That shit back. That shit back.

Y'all didn't even know they had a team. He said they should go back. They should go back. Y'all didn't even know they had a team. He said they should go back. Gil, shut up, man. Shout out to Legendary Comics. This is why y'all watch Gil's Arena. Not now, but much people are going to go Google and be like, oh, damn, he almost played 20 years. He was a beast.

Great in his early career, but that longevity. Still Huff, a preacher nowadays out here doing it. Yes, sir. Spreading the good word. Yeah, Brendan. Yes spreading the word But she so we got to talk you got the Sixers hat on I think you got the six with colored shoes to that's coordination Yeah, you know I'm saying My Casey socks though, you know It works. Oh, yeah, I love I love my seven six cats man

So what are your thoughts on the squad this season and has the process finally earned your trust? Well, yeah, I love my 7'6 cats, man. So what are your thoughts on the squad this season, and has the process finally earned your trust? Well, I'm just glad to say that now this year I can cheer for my 7'6 cats. Why couldn't you cheer for them before? I wasn't rocking and rolling with a couple people that we had on staff. Okay. So, you know, I wasn't rocking and rolling with Glenn Rivers. It's only one doc in Philly. Okay. And it's not Glenn Rivers.

Okay. And, um... Do you call him Glenn? That's his name. I'm not saying nothing wrong. I understand. That's his name, Glenn. So, you know, Glenn and I'm glad, you know, we got rid of Harden.

I think if the Sixers would have got that James Harden that played in Houston for them like four or five years that was lighting the league up, I think we would have been a better team with a big man. But, hey, yo, he came in and then all this other shit happened with, you know what I'm saying, with the number one pick. And that shit ain't worked out. And so, you know, I was brown bagging my guys for a few years. But I'm good now. I'm good now, you know.

I got something to cheer for. You know, I'm rocking the 83. You know, that's the last time we won it, you know i'm you know rocking the 80 83 you know that's last time we won it you know and i'm gonna shout out to my man ai because man that he's he's like a basketball god in philly like he represented the city so well so good he can't do no wrong like he could go down the middle of Broad Street and shoot, like, three people. It was their fault. It was their fault, and I ain't no witnesses.

Yeah, I ain't no witnesses. Like, I don't know who that was. Was that Cassidy? Philly loves the shit out of AI. I think, real talk, I could probably say this, but I might, a lot of Philadelphians put him on the same level with Doc. And Doc did win us that chip. You know, AI got us there, but Doc did win us that chip. But, man, he's...

Fair to say Doc had a much better squad with that championship team than AI had with that. True, true. You know, we had a little Bobby Jones. You know, we had a little fo- True, true. You know, we had a little Bobby Jones. You know, we had a little fo-fo-fo. You know, we had it. But, man, yeah, AI was that shit for the city, dog. For the league shit. I love my 7'6 cats.

We're going to be there. We're going to get it together. I fuck with Joel. And B, I love him when he wants to be a big man and not trying to be like KD out on the wing and you 7'2", 7'3", and you trying to get cats a

crossover or in between the leg, behind the back type shit. Hey, yo, if you don't get your big ass right down there 5, 6 feet from that basket and dominate... Question. When you talk about docking AI, when you mention Embiid

and he's the MVP and average 30, he don't have the same impact in the city? Is it just because how AI played, how hard he played? I think it was, man. I think it was the icons. Now, I'm not saying that Embiid isn't doing great things for the city because I think since was, man. I think it was the icons. Now, I'm not saying that, you know, and B isn't doing great things for the city

because I think since he's been there and came into himself, he is. He's made us a contender. We just need some pieces to get over the top. But, yeah, man, the city, they put Doc in AI. I mean, like... You think he needs a championship?

I don't even think a championship will help. Like, you know, a championship will respect it. Like, you know, people in the city will respect him more because you won the MVP. You know what I mean? But that chip will put you over the top as far as being, you know, a Philly great. But I don't think he would ever be a Philly god.

AI is a Philly god. ever be a Philly God AI The Philly God. Yeah, so doc is a Philly God. So it'd be one chip You don't think puts it over the top. Let's say what's the amount of chips that he would need? I don't I don't think I don't think it's not Bro, that's well because of the way That Philly embraces Doc and that Philly embraces A.I.

You think it's because he's not from here? No, it ain't got shit to do with it neither. A.I.

ain't from Philly. Doc ain't from Philly. No, I mean like from the U.S. Oh, no, no,

I don't think. He American now. He got his papers. Yeah, but you know how they feel about the European foreign-born players

versus the American-born players. It's kind of like that type of thing. Yeah, true that. how they feel about the European foreign-born players versus the American-born players. It's kind of like that. Yeah, true that. True that. And they definitely do. But, no, I mean, we're going to love Embiid in Philly. We're going to love him.

You know, he brings that chip. You know, he got some good help. I like the young boy Maxie we got. Maxie's a fucking dog. You know what I'm saying? You think if they win a championship, Maxie will a fucking dog. You know what I'm saying? You think if they win the championship, Maxie will, like, leapfrog Embiid as far as, like, popularity in Philly?

No. No, I don't think so. Reason being that we all know in Philly, Embiid put a lot of work in. Maxie's just starting. Now, I think if Maxie was the type of player to spend his whole career in Philly

and, you know, no matter if we win it or not, as long as we make the playoffs, this and that, I think eventually it could be a lot of barbershop talk, like, Maxie's a better player than B, but, I mean, you know, we all speaking hypothetical right now, of course, but

gotta take it for what it is. Like, we're a good young team. But what do you think about Maxie stepping up this year, obviously feeling that way from Harden? And even with the Harden situation, he came out recently, said Darryl Morey had promised him a max contract. That's kind of what led to all this stuff. But we've talked about it on this show.

So I just want to ask you, because we talked about that Houston Harden, what he was able to do there. It seems like he changed a lot of his game. And we don't know if it was coming from him, coming from the coaching staff, combination of both, that made him a different player when he was with the Sixers than when he was with the Rockets. No, I think what made him a different player was now you've got a big man to play with. You've got another all-star, another all-star caliber player to play with.

He ain't had that in Houston. He was the main show, as we mentioned earlier. Jay Harden was the number one man on the scouting report. But when you got to Philly, you weren't the number one man. The number one man was in B, because one, that was his team before you got there, too. Eventually, naturally, him being a big man, know in my opinion you know you're you're the head of the team but for that team you know but it wasn't it wasn't nothing that jr you got to come in there and now you got to play a different role now we're going to see what type of player you are because there's a lot of guys who played in the nba their whole career let's say you started in the nba you played a total of 12 years.

You started 10 out of them 12 years on every team you played with. But now in that 11th year, you coming off the bench. Some dudes, that'll fuck them up. Some guys, that mentality, that'll fuck them up. But now,

I'm not the number one option. So when I... That's how it looks. That's the matter. When I give you that, and then I finally, after shooting it, I throw that shit there at MB, you know why I'm throwing it there to him?

He's number one option. I'm not the number one option no more. It's a different mentality now. Now I got to set him up. Now I got to come off screens and make sure that my big man open because why? If I feed my big man, my big man scoring down low, what's that going to do for me on the wing? Make it easier. Make it easier.

Simple basketball. Simple basketball. All this dribbling shit, all this shit that they trying to do to try to make it simple basketball, but it looks like to me, right now you look at some NBA games and NBA teams, the shit looks like you're playing NBA 2K. Mm-hmm. Coming down- Damn courts.

I'm jacking the three. If you was to play your son in NBA 2K with you being older and him was like eight years old, what is he going to do? Sooner or later, he's going to come past half court. Chuck it through, yeah. He's going to hit the turbo button, try to throw a little boost. And jacking it because that's what he sees. Dan, that's funny because I remember I used to tell Nick, I mean, dog, I was like, you're

a 2K player. This is back when he was, we're talking about 2007. He's like, yo, you're a 2K NBA live player, bro. It's like you got the turbo button on and you're trying to do every, you're trying to hit me with every move. And I got hit with the first one. You got me with the first move. Came back to me, made me look like I was a defender. Then shake me up again to come back to me.

Now, I look like a hell of a defender, but I got shook already for two moves. Like, whoop! Ah! Oh, hey, how you doing? Because, like, in my opinion, with a lot of, not only a majority of the NBA players, but a lot of collegiate players on a lot of levels, D1, 2, 3, NAIA, and Juco. I'm doing workout moves. I'm not playing. Like, if you was to throw me the ball right now and you was like, all right, she, I need you to give me 10,

you know, pump fake, sell a ticket to the show. I need two dribbles right for the pull-up. I need 10 of them right now. And we go through that, and I'm like, all right. Yo, that's what they're doing in the game. So now, if you was like, all right, Sheed, give me

the same thing, pump fake it, sell a ticket to the show, two dribbles right, and shoot the ball. But you're like, okay, let me see how he's going to react. So I do the pump fake, two dribbles to the right, and now you're coming towards me Let me see how he's gonna react so I do the pump fake two dribbles to the right and now You're coming towards me put a hand up now. It's like oh shit. Oh Like fuck like yo now I'm passing it or is the extra dribble travel so no it's too methodical

You're too methodical with it. No one's playing in a natural flow They're using these moves as That key move or as they used to say back in it in the days of playing 2k the D key move D e ke the deacon when a player do some wild shit like that or spin or some yo That's what they doing now. No, it's not a part of your regular game This is my golden move if it my golden move doesn't work. Guess what a part of your regular game. This is my golden move. If my golden move doesn't work, guess what a lot of them do? I'm going to back that shit out. Try it again.

And I'm going to try it again. Listen, I've said that these trainers are taking reaction moves as someone did. I came in, I got cut off boom boom right shot it And it they take it and make that the person's regular regular move. So now what ends up happening is my My reaction move just became your react your regular move I Might do in a full fort for 43 minutes, I might do two moves that was out of body. Your whole workout is out of body,

which you don't have a regular game anymore. So I'm sitting here looking at all these guys doing these moves, and I'm hearing like, you guys are, one, you're learning it from a person, and this is no offense to these trainers, you're learning from someone who's never done this move ever in their life They've never actually done the move themselves To score basket in a real just showed it so you can say that this doesn't work the way they think is gonna work, right?

Oh see you're gonna fade fade. The guy's gonna step up and then you're gonna go behind the back He's gonna try to cut you off and then you're gonna fade fade the guys gonna step up and then you're gonna go behind the back He's gonna try to cut you off and then you're gonna spin back Right And then I'm like, okay now do it. He don't know how to do it So he don't know where a real position of a defender is gonna be right so they're learning all these moves and now you sit here and look you look goofy and then your and now you sit here and you look goofy, and then you're three for 22, but the three moves you did make highlights.

And that's all you care about. That's all they care about. 98% of your game's supposed to be simple. Right? You have your normal, get to the bucket, then you have a counter, and then maybe another counter to that, just in case you're playing against the most extreme defender yeah other than that whatever you're doing it's mostly natural yeah yeah i mean i saw paul george do a

move in a game he i think he pump fake went right and he did a pullback between his legs but then he went between two defenders and got a layup like you can't practice that like that's just natural and instinct and these trainers don't teach players instincts. They're just teaching them moves. Do this move at this moment. Do this move. When basketball is so much about your instinct, but you have to have the skill set behind it and an IQ to know when to do these moves. When can I pull this out? This is not a good time to do this. This is a great time to do this. Or sometimes you just do shit and you're like, oh, shit. Yeah.

But that's that. I just did that. That shit worked. But then you ain't going to do it. You ain't going to see that move again for three weeks. And that's fine. The thing is, the trainer sees that. And then that's all the kid is working on now.

You saw that move. And it's like, you're not playing against trash. Like, even when you were saying it's like your defense on the left side, we're going to push in baseline, right? Like, as an offensive player, I got baseline moves, right? Most of that was simple, right? Try to keep them high, see where that big man's coming. All right, I got a pocket right here where I can try to go one, two hard ones, then do a step.

Boom, right? That's it. Or drive real hard and then see if I can spin between both of them, right? Which is the harder one. It's like I'm going to go hard. Hopefully he's here and I can spin between. Now I got this whole middle. I got this whole middle.

I might have to just pump fake just in case. I don't know who's coming. You have these different things, but some of these moves, it's not made for that side. That's top of the key. That's that side. It's reaction moves is like, it's not made for that side. That's top of the key. That's that side. It's reaction moves, like you were saying, because what if I'm, you already know, I'm a poor defender.

And like you said a second ago, when Odu hit you with the first move, he had you with the first move. But you trying to do the workout move, so the workout move is,. But you trying to do the workout move. So the workout move is I had you on the cross between the legs.

I'm going, you over there. But the workout move is the cross, bring it behind the back, Hezzy, one dribble left for the pull up.

At the defense, oh shit, you brought me back to the plate. Now let me get this contestant still. Like, you had me on an initial cross.

You know what I mean? Yeah, and then they hire a lot of motherfuckers who never played ball before. They hire a lot of gimmick-ass dudes who never played ball before. If I'm a GM of a team, even if I'm a collegiate AD or whatever, I'm going to make sure that I hire somebody who played that game, that specific game that I'm hiring you for. Like, let's just say we was all talking about fucking pickleballing this bitch. You know, we were some great pickleball players, like, oh, we got pickleball records, all that. Well, I'm not going to hire a coach from another sport or who never coached before to run our pickleball team. Like, no, it don't make sense.

Like, what the fuck you doing? But you got a lot of these workout cats, never played collegiate ball, barely played high school ball. They might have been around some great basketball minds but just because you're around that great basketball mind doesn't mean your mind is great

don't make yours great and they come with a lot of these we all seen the bullshit gimmicks alright catch it I want you to jump in the air do a 360 two times give me two dribbles to the right for the pull up we all seen the fucking tapes on damn Instagram and YouTube and all that shit.

Yo, who? Where does that happen in the game? That's what we're saying to ourselves. How did you get this job? How did you get these players that you got? Like, it was homie hookups or, you know. In the NBA, you'd be like, who are you? The right complexions for the connections, all that.

I had assistant coach, right? And it's like, yeah. He's like, oh, you got to pass the ball around. I know I'm tired. How much do you average? He's like, seven. In the NBA? He's like, yeah.

Well, if I want to average seven, I'll listen to you. But I'm not. Whatever you say, I'm going to do the opposite. So you better reverse psychology me. I'm with you. Even if you're like, shoot, Gil. I'm going to listen to you. Shot.

Pass, Gil. I'm going the opposite. Shoot. But that's how it was. I did that. And I never wanted someone to do that to me. As a coach, you sit you're trying to end a motherfucker Like what is your resume?

And you don't have the resume to say the shit you're saying I That's how I am as a I had a coach come at me with the most Disrespectful shit ever. I had a coach come at me that was actually telling me how to pass out the post. This coach who was telling me this was a fucking baseball coach. So now y'all know me. Y'all already knew what my answer or my reactions was, you know what I'm saying, this and that. But to cut the story short, it's like, yeah, as a professional, if you play in that sport and you're a coach in that sport, the players are going to respect you more. No matter if you was trash or if you was the top notch. But if you never played that fucking sport, them guys respect it.

I'm not going to respect you telling me, you better be more of a motherfucking motivator. Yep, yep. Hey, yo, you got this, man. Oh, damn, it's all right. You're going to get the next one, though. I feel it.

You're going to get the next. You better be a motivator opposed to, hey, look, no, you got to plant your foot right here. Make sure you put your arm out and put his body right.

It'd be no shit. Well, man, fuck out of here. Yeah, like that. Fuck out of here, dog. F-h oh yeah this was in the league this was in the league dog when i was playing with portland when i was playing with portland this one coach was a baseball coach he was the head coach best friend you know i understood that was cool with the homie hook up. I'm going to hook my homie up with a gig, six figure gig. You know what I mean? But dude, you're a baseball coach. That's like we sitting on here.

We all play ball and you play badminton. And you telling us like, man, no, it's just, you got to go out there and you got to play hard with your team. And this and that. This happens a lot.

As you notice, she'd, I just sit here in my, my business, but this happens a lot on other things that I see they're in the space No, but that no, but like if somebody's rap is we some of these draft picks. That's how to draft and it's just a friend It's your friend or favor like doesn't sound like a favor for friend. Yeah. Hey, you guys I mean, I know you got a scouting job my mom my girlfriend's brother need a job. I bet.

Now, he was over there. I just seen this dude. He looked nice. Look, he remind me of Spud Webb. Like, no offense, but... There's a lot of people making decisions. We got the number one pick in the draft, bro. I'm not drafting nobody. Five-five.

Five-five. What? There's Wendy here. 5-5. So, Sheet, last question we got for you. We got to talk a little bit about these Pistons. Became the eighth team in NBA history to go win this for an entire month.

Have now lost 17 straight games, which is the second longest losing streak in franchise history. When you look at this Pistons team, are they a bad team or are they a young team or are they both? And how do they use these struggles to build for the future? Well, you got to say they're a bad team because they're a young team. And you got to look at most of the people who have success

for long term in this league are veteran teams but i mean they got the pieces you got you got the guard and kate you know i'm saying he he's a big guard at that as you said you like the big guard um then for me down low you got uh jaylen durin like damn that's in my book that's like another young C Webb for the most part just

just without the Fab Five fame but you know Jay puts it on the floor well you know what I'm saying he can shoot that 15 footer good

give you the up and unders he got good post moves then we got Young Ivy shit he's to me he's like a... I see him as that... Now I'm not saying he's the type of scorer AI was.

I'm only comparing him to AI because they were both thin and little to be playing a two guard. Like J. Ivy, he's a good two guard. He runs the floor. He's athletic. He gets his shot off, and that's what you need. But I think, you know, also you got Jay Wiseman. I think it's just a matter of him having that confidence in himself. You know, you're coming from Golden State.

You're playing behind Draymond. You're playing behind a championship-caliber team. Now, if you didn't come from championship caliber shit, you won't know how to react. But I think he just needs a fair shot. You know what I'm saying? Jay Wiseman, he's a good athletic guy.

Good 4'5". You know. Pistons, they're a young team, man. They're a young team. But it's a matter of I think they're in that transition to the point where they're a young team that's not going to be kept together. So... Too many

promising pieces. Too many promising pieces and you got to pay them tracks. You know what I'm saying? Let's say in three years or two years, let's say Cade Cunningham contract is up. So now you got to re-sign him. So let's say the year after that, now Jalen Duren contract is up.

So now, shit, I got to worry about re-signing him after I just signed Cade Cunningham for all these hundreds of millions of dollars. So, you know, they got the pieces for it right now. I look at them as that East Coast late 90s Clippers team. Remember how they had that... They had that athletic team. They were good. It was like, as the veteran

team, if you slept on them, they're going to get you. But if you play the way you're supposed to play, of course you're going to get it. That's how I see the Pistons right now, man, as that young, you know, late 90s Clippers teams with Q and D Miles and, you know, that whole staff. Is it the 2000, 2001 team? With the dum-dums.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? That's how I see this Pistons team, because they have good young talent. But it also hurts them because, shit, they still living in the shadow, which is fucked up. And they're at that age where they don't understand sacrifice and they don't know sacrifice because it's... I'm trying to get known. Because as Lexi said earlier, you, I want to make my money. So in order for me to make my money,

guess what I got to do? Yeah, they got to hoop. They got to hoop individually. Because at this point, no one's expecting them to really win no more. What do you think about Azor Thompson just real quick, what he's been able to do so far his rookie year? Four.

I'm saying four. What team? The Pistons. The Pistons. The twin. One of the twins. It's a young month. He just started.

Think about it, for the first month of the season, who we've been hearing for the Pistons about Jalen Duren. So now he's another young talent that's coming along. He's coming with himself for the last month. But it's all about longevity. If you want to be that good player, if you want to be a part of that team, yo, I got to work on my fucking craft. Like, that's what a lot of these young fellas misconstrue. Like, yo, work on your craft. Work on, it may seem dumb, it may seem simple. Do about 5,000 jab steps a day.

It may seem dumb, it may seem simple, but guess what? It's gonna make you that complete player It's gonna make you that supreme burger shit you doing the 5,000 steps the lettuce You know I'm saying then the pump fakes is the onions but you're gonna be that supreme burger How old is he? He's 20. I think he turns 21 in January. Okay, so somebody like that, right? And this is just me, but it is reality.

You're 20 turning 21, averaging 10. You're not in my future. As a GM? As a GM. You're about to be a 21-year-old rookie. You're so far...

But you need defense. I mean, if I'm going to have him as a defensive player, okay, cool. But I mean, if I'm going to make him like a cornerstone, like he is the cornerstone of my future, who's 20-21 2021 right now but i mean shit think about it though if from what you just said if he's averaging 10 as a first year player that means he's gonna do pretty good for no later on once he gets used to the league year

name me the best 20 year old in the in the world right now. In the world or NBA? In the NBA. Who's about to be 21, so who's turning 21 right now? 2020. Wow, shit. You named more than three quarters of the league. The whole league is young. Right, so that's...

Halliburton is how old? 23? So, yeah, if he's 23, it's... How old is Maxie? 20-what? Two? No, I want's 23, how old is Maxie? 20-what? Two? No, I want them 20, 21. That means they came...

Maxie's 23. Just start 23. No, I'm talking about the guys who came into the league. That'll be Ant-Man is 22. So under Ant-Man. Who's before Ant-Man? Or after Ant-Man? So you're saying 22 and under?

Nah. The same age, but they came into the NBA two years ago. So who's 21 right now? Figuring it out. All right, let's think. Let's think of teams. The last draft. Who's the last draft?

So Paolo Banchero, 21. Okay. Just turned 21. All right. All this cake. Okay, that class right there. What class is that? Chet. Last year. Nah, Chet came after that.

Chet was last year. Nah, Chet came. Chet was last year. He got hurt. 21 and made it. So who else? Wendy's 19. K just turned 22. Okay, so under. So it's this draft, right? So it would be the maybe last draft Yeah for last year

Let me put this is it so he's like who? You know, yeah So you're like you you're you're a root your scoop on I mean, I'm not worried. He's kind of older, too. Ivy's 21. I'm talking about the guys. It was the year before. So he's a second-year player, third-year player. Faden Sharpe's 20.

So you got guys who's younger averaging 20-something. So you're behind the eight ball on... Was he getting the same opportunities as these players? No, he was in high school. No, now. They don't. I'm looking at the age.

I don't like... That rookie shit is cool, but you're averaging 10, and then this guy's younger than you're averaging 20. Yeah. Right? So that's where I'm going

to follow you. How fast you're going to catch up. Like if you came in as your rookie year and you're about to be 21, you're averaging about 17 to 20, you're right on pace as a player. Right now, you're behind the eight ball on your age group. Okay. I see what you're saying. That's the only thing. I'm looking at it like, all right, let me see your numbers compared to where you're supposed to be. For that age bracket. For that age bracket. Yeah. Well, let's keep only thing I'm looking at like alright. Let me see let me see your numbers compared to where you supposed to be

For that age bracket age bracket. Yeah, well, let's keep this thing moving. I know it's a little late in the day We are going to do this cute. Yeah Okay, oh no, no, I'm sorry. No you let the cat out the bag. I am also successful. No, no, no, no, no No, no, okay. Now that I see that it's up there and up there, I just... You thought I was doing some finger painting? You know how your kids be like, oh, let me go ahead and throw some paint on that diaper. I can't do it, though. This is what rich people wear, apparently.

Grown-ass men can't have cute shit on. No, I was like, I'm not going to mess it up. He said, that's cute. That's how you do it, man. No, you got to wear your kid stuff. You know, my kids did. It's how you do it, Misha. No, no, you got to wear your kid stuff. You know, my kids did this. It was finger painting. Oh, no doubt.

Happy Father's Day. Let's get to mostly fans. Presenting my underdog fantasy. Go ahead. We got three quick questions because we know we all got shit to do. And it is Tuesday. The club is going up. So first question for underdog user, fully loaded CEO.

This is for you, Sheet. How was it beating the Lakers in 0-4? Retribution. It was retribution for me. You know, the Lakers, the Lakers was a thorn. They've been kicking my ass

my whole career. When I was out there in Portland, let me see, I was out there, I think about maybe six years. I would say four or maybe five out of those six years I was there, the Lakers put us out the playoffs. And, you know, I was there for that 2000.

When they started their little dynasty, you know, winning, I think, a back-to-back or whatever. But I didn't need all that. But, you know, it's cool. But that 2004, it felt good winning it against them of all teams. Okay. So now we got a video question for you from a Mostly Fans user, or Underdog user, Trey Sosa, 918. Let's run the clip. What up?

What up, Gills Arena? You know what I'm saying? I don't know who called it is, but I'll be running it up on one of y'all. But salute to the OG energy in there today. It's real different. I like that. But not to sound like everybody else. My question is if you, Sheed, our top OG,

today's game, they don't want to admit it, but they monitor you a lot. What do you think you're averaging? Sheed, what are you averaging in today's version of the NBA, the high scoring, fast paced? Well, first I want to be on what he on. You know what I'm saying? My guy, my guy, hey.

My guy, I'm with you, I'm saying? My guy, my guy, hey. My guy, I'm with you, I'm with you. But, um, I don't know, man. I know it would be substantial, but, you know, I was never a stat dude. So, but, especially shit, they always

ask us about, who's a better team, this or that. Like, are you playing by this rules or that rules? For me, it don't matter the rules. It don't matter what era because it's a different skill set. Today, you know, yeah, they blowing that whistle a lot. Wait, just small shit coming across the lane. If I tap you, that's a foul.

Oh, shit, you going against somebody doing that with a skill set oh it's asked you asked out you know i'm saying so i think that we can always do and i'm speaking as an older player i will talk shit as an older player a lot of our younger i mean excuse me a lot of our older players are humble and you know they want to say the right shit when it comes to the younger players but i'm gonna tell you this i'm gonna speak say the right shit when it comes to the younger players. But I'm going to tell you this. I'm going to speak the real shit. If I was playing in the league today, I would bust a lot of these motherfuckers' ass. Because it's not, they're not both sides of the ball. You have about maybe five dudes, if that, who are both sides of the ball, offense and defense.

They don't have it today in this NBA. You know, they're all about offense. That's why you see a lot of the, in our day, we used to call it a spread offense, where you have five on the outside, nobody in the middle, and it's like, all right, I pass it to you, you got to try to beat your man without no help. That's how the NBA game is played today. I guarantee you, if you guys have another guest on here, right, who plays in the NBA today, you ask this motherfucker, what is a Hawk cut?

He would know. What is a Princeton cut? What is a Princeton play? You know what I'm saying? What is this? What is that? As far as the terms go, they won't know what the fuck it is because they wasn't taught that. They don't know about it.

But it's part of the game because all they know is five wide. Alright, y'all over here. Let me scoot over. I'm over here and we're going to pass the ball around the horn like fuck. Ain't nobody going to move. We're all shooting threes. Can't happen. Was it shell offense and defense?

That was shell. And now shell used to be practice. Yeah. And warm up. And now shell is prime time. Shell is warm up to prime time. All right, get your legs hooked. Yup.

And we cut, be mad. Come on, man, you're going too hard, man. Come on, ah, damn. That'll make me look bad in the shell drill. Right in front of your face. All right, y'all a weak side door, man You cut hard watch what happened? Come on watch your hands. So you're leveling people And we really used to fuck the rookies up for that, yeah, they tried to impress coach Slow down

Our last question is from Underdog User. Jalen Green. Who's better, him or Azur? Who? Jalen Green or Thompson? The rookie. Wow. Jalen Green.

I'm just here to host. I knew there was somebody that was that age. He turned 22 in February. Yeah, yeah. I got to say, for me, they about even. But I gotta agree. Jay is better on offense, and Tom's better

on defense. So our last question, underdog user, Big E67. Let's run it. What's up, Gia? Quick question. What's your defensive strategy against LeBron James throughout your whole NBA career? try to slow him down? For getting buckets if he's having a hot night

What's your defensive strategy for LeBron James throughout your career You gotta be a troll cuz he know we lost every game against us. We didn't win those series, bro So whatever I say it didn't work It didn't work. I was in work Huh the attempted game and you don't what didn't work. It don't matter They gonna say you lost so it don't matter you go You go what was your play because we didn't man seed for us Of course, we had the crafty take Sean Prince on him at that time I Of course, we had the crafty Tayshaun Prince on him at that time.

I would say our game plan was to push him left because he was a dominant right-handed player. He goes to the right, he's going to the bucket nine times out of ten. So our biggest thing was to push him left and to force him to pass it to somebody else who's uncomfortable in that position. For us, at that time, it was mainly like, all right, if he's out top and he drives, no matter if he go right or left, whoever was guarding Varejao, we're going to come to help. So, because he's like, shit, we'd rather let Varejao beat us. He's going to have to beat us on all these dump off dunks or, you know what I'm saying, dunk or spot dunks or passes, opposing to Brian, you know, doing what he did. And, like, for us, that was our main thing.

A lot of people always go back to, like, oh, man, Brian bust y'all ass and this and that. Yeah, he did bust our ass that one game. But y'all look at the overall total of that Detroit team when he played with that Cleveland team. Man, we beat the shit out them niggas, dog. Every time. You know what I'm saying? But, yeah, you definitely, for me as a coach, I would say send them left. If I got a guy coming or coming around the top, I'm going to send him to the middle. Baseline guy, you're

going to help too. We're going to force him to pass. I mean, because shit, he ain't number one for nothing. He ain't number one for nothing, but you just got to put guys in situations like that, like, damn, I'm going to make it an overabundant basketball play. If I send three dudes at you, like, fuck. And if you still shoot it, well, now the critics are going to have fun. But basketball players, we like, it was two other guys open. Yeah. So. You know what the worst Scotton Report was on him?

He couldn't shoot. Well, he got better as he became older, though. But think about the concept of he can't shoot. What does that tell us to do? Dare a shot? Dare him to shoot it. What happens if he makes

two or three? He's hot. Now you're going to try to play defense. Now he's going around you. You set yourself up for failure when you're gonna try to play defense and I keep going around you right so you you you set yourself up for failure When you're telling your team he can't do something because now it takes away the Like the the concept of him playing defense on them. Oh, he don't shoot that good from the three-point line So, you know, so now he had a three-point line. You seen it. Yeah, shoot it shoot it shoot it He shoots it. He makes it now the next time is

Night blue Shoot that I was to say it, but he just hit three of them now Now it puts you in this this this hot potato match with LeBron and that's exactly what it is Like somebody like that you have to play them as greatness. You can't. Like you said, you can't get in a hot potato match with him. Nope. Unless you are number one scorer on your team.

That's the only way. That's the only way. Like I remember with Rondo. Rondo can't shoot. We're going to go under. And then we're going to sit at the free throw line. And we're going to clog the lane up. So I'm sitting at the free throw line uh that was a call on rondo yeah what'd he do he drove to the free throw line now what you're gonna do you're gonna back up again right because if you back up

i'm shooting a free throw i can shoot a free throw yeah dog i can shoot rondo worked on his jay yeah i can shoot a free throw you're gonna back up some and if not, I'm just gonna go I'm this close to the rim I might as well go for layer. That's what what would um With Ben Simmons they back up that drive right to them. What are you gonna do now? We're gonna do right now Hey, hold on, you're not your friend. Like, I don't need to... You don't need to shoot a three. He backed up so far, just drive it right to him. Maybe he might back up again. Now it's a dunk.

He probably is going to foul you. I mean, this goes like, oh, my God. Oh, it's a dunk if we talking about who? Man, come on, man. Oh, you ain't seen him in the summer. Oh, who? Ben Simmons. What about him? You come him in the summer. Oh who Ben Simmons? What about him you coming here in the summer? What about him? Oh, nah, he yeah He don't give a fuck about the summer and he's like Godzilla hit. Oh, I don't care

What good is that doing for me during the season? I'm good was that doing for my sixes during the season what the shit I'm gonna fuck me as a great defender He was a great the. He was a great first-team all... First-team all defense. Even when he got booed. Did you think the show was over?

Man. I got it. My air pad died. So what does he... I mean, come on. It was first team. He's the defensive side. You know why

that whole first-team shit went down? Because Bron vouched for him. Brian vouched for him coming out of college, saying that, oh, he's the next me, and who ate it up? The league.

Now when you get to the league, oh, now it's this and that. Now I give it to him. The young nigga could pass. Like, if you open, he going to dime you. That's about all he can do for me, though. Is it that he just... He overpasses?

But why are you overpassing, though? Because you can't shoot. But he was even overpassing when he was, like, under the basket. He would be like... I don't have that confidence to even make a fucking layup. And you in the wrong city trying to... You in the wrong city playing for that... I don't have that confidence to even make a fucking layup.

And you in the wrong city playing for that. I don't care about that New York shit with them and that, but he was doing that shit in Philly? Yo, nah. We're going to chop you up, cuz. We're going to julienne your ass if you go to the market. You in the supermarket, you with your lady

or whatever, yo. Niggas ain't trying to hear that. Hey, fam, I need you to or whatever, yo. Niggas ain't trying to hear that. Hey, fam, I need you to rebound more, dawg. For real. I don't care what you with your wife. We was cut though like that in Philly. I mean,

and he couldn't handle it overall. Let me be his. Look, I sit right next to him, trust me. Hey, bro, this is about us, man. Hey, fuck the rest of this team, brother. Hey, look. Go out there and I need you to shoot it. What?

He probably did have somebody like that in his ear. And guess what happened? Give me two for 35. I don't give a shit. Man. I treat like a baby. Good job, boy. Good job, baby.

Let me ask you this. As the number one option when you was at Zona, right? You scored over a thousand points, right? Oh No, as the number one option I was number four option No, I'm saying when you became well never the number one option you want to know there two years two years But I was I was a number one option, but I know but I let the team's going You did you scored eleven hundred five? on a career, okay, damn I was putting that month up so so

Damn, you're 15 as a freshman. Look at I told you I wasn't in the ball His career if I'm coming in as the top recruiter Recruiter if I'm coming, yo, I'm the top recruit. Accidentalist. I mean, I'm the man on the team. I'm the number one option. Yeah. Yo, how you not score a thousand points?

Especially with the program you're in. The program you're in, you are that number one option. Wait, how many years did he play? One. A thousand points as a freshman? Man, if you're the number one option. Wait, how many years did he play? One. Thousand points as a freshman? Man, if you're the number one option, that's a lot of points. That's a lot of points, right?

Man, yes. Pistol Pete did it. I want to hear shit. I don't want to hear shit neither when you're the number one fucking option. You can put up a one-on-five. You could come down court and have five people in your face and throw that shit up if you're the number one option.

1,000 points in a season. I just think that he's so talented, just skill-wise, that he's just so unselfish that it makes it hard for everybody. It makes it so hard for everybody else. If I know you're not going to shoot the ball, I'm never going to fall for anything. You're not going to shoot it. If you come to the lane and you get your foot in the paint,

we're going to stay home now because we know you're not going to score. That's what I'm saying. I don't need that on my team. Yeah, you're right. And even if everybody stayed home and I'm forcing you to shoot it and you're on a smaller player and you still can't score? Yeah. I'm calling upstairs.

You. I think that's a good place to end the show for today. Very spirited discussion as always. Rasheed, we appreciate you pulling up for these past two days. I'm just saying. Make sure y'all check out Sheed and Tyler premiere early 2024. Yes, sir. Follow Underdog NBA YouTube page. They got all types of

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