Gil's Arena - Steph and Jordan Poole Go Hibachi Time In The NBA Preseason

Episode Date: October 19, 2023

Gil's Arena Reacts To Steph Curry & Jordan Poole's Big Nights in the NBA Preseason as Gilbert Arenas breaks down Steph's Game Winner of the Sacramento King and Poole's revenge tour with the Washington Wizards getting off to a sizzling start. Other NBA topics include A'a Wilson and the Las Vegas Aces WNBA Championship, more questions surrounding Ja Morant and Zion Williamson and Damian Lillard's rocky preseason with The Milwaukee Bucks. Remember to Like and Subscribe!! Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get a $500 first deposit match: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena Gil’s Arena premieres every Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. SUBSCRIBE:  / @gilsarena   APPAREL PARTNERS TUFF CROWD: https://www.tuffcrowd.com/ ADIDAS: https://www.adidas.com/us/agent-gil-restomod-basketball-shoes/ THE HOMETOWN FAVORITES https://thehometownfavorites.com/ Gr8ness: https://www.gr8nss.store/ Pre-Order Rashad's Book Here - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CD9ZQ3HD?ref_=pe_3052080_276849420 Chapters Intro 0:00:00 Show Start 0:03:30 Gil vs Supa Hot Fire 0:06:39 Las Vegas Aces Win WNBA FInals 0:09:54 Can A'ja Wilson Become The GOAT? 0:17:48 Impact of This Season on Women's Basketball 0:21:16 Tee Morant's Role In The Ja Morant Situation 0:24:55 Ja's Gun Suspension Is Nothing Compared To The Old Days 0:44:14 Advice To Ja  0:47:40 Hibachi Time - Preseason Poole Party 0:50:17 CAN STEPH Win MVP? 1:00:28 Revisiting The ESPN Top 100 List 1:05:08 Zion's Return 1:16:50 Who Was Harder to Guard? - AI vs Kyrie 1:34:08 Who Was Harder to Guard? - AI vs Steph 1:42:25 Hardest Players You've Guarded 1:45:33 Mostly Fans 1:59:38 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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get your podcasts from. So Gil, I see you. What you doing? I'm out here tweeting. IGN and everything. You're a man of many talents. All-NBA hooper, Hall of Fame podcaster, creator of the best daily basketball show in the game. But you got another talent we didn't know about,

battle rapping. You took on the legend Super Hot Fire recently, and we got the tape. I'm about to get into the coin talk. Wait, wait, wait a minute. You took on the legend super hot fire recently and we got the tape Had to remove my own ass. Yeah, I ain't with the stupid games, man. Well, you know which I was on last time. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. He got a backpack. I'm going to just go and use his corner.

I've seen that backpack before. Call it an air. Y'all ready? Heads. Heads. What you want to do? Yo, yo, yo. He know you, man.

He got the backpack. He go first. You're right. Gilbert, go ahead and talk to him. Ayo! Ayo! Super Hot Fire. You're not in my bracket.

I don't even like his jacket. Is this pleather? Is that pleather? I think it's blue. About to put him in a casket. Tonight. I'm the only NBA player to shoot a game winning three.

Tell him. Turn around. Before the ball go in the basket. Oh! I seen him do it. So what was it like battling Super Hot Fire? Man, it was fun. It was fun. It was a whole fun environment, man. So I got a question. Did you frisk all them N-words at the door? Nah. You didn't frisk them? You had all them N-words in your house?

No! Man, we would have had armed security at the door. Oh, no, no. But, go ahead, my bad. You had a nice little hype squad behind you. It was, uh... You know, you see the O'Neal boys in there know yet, you know Shaq's sons in there so Everybody have fun Bad where no did you search them on the way out? No, I wasn't here when he left cuz they steal

That's why you had to replace the Jersey you tell me that one now Now it makes sense. It was good. It was good So go bunch of current former rappers got in the booth drop tracks. You're gonna drop a track You should move the smoothie over here. Yeah For what to make music like every other Hooper They young enough to do that from 41'm 41, what the hell am I going to talk about? Get up and work out with my kids. My kids, my kids.

My kids don't work no more. Yeah, with the self-awareness. Love it. It's important. But shout out Super Hot Fire. Shout out Malik G. The rest of their crew. That video is on YouTube.

You can go peep it now. We're going to drop a snippet on Twitter too on Gil's Arena Show account for all y'all to enjoy. All right, but let's talk some hoops. Let's talk about these aces. The aces. You're not happy. Because I was wrong. I'm obviously happy that they won.

I mean, they deserved it. They earned it. But I picked the Liberty, so I was wrong. It they deserved it. They earned it. But I picked the Liberty. So I was wrong. It's all good. It's okay. Wait a minute. But watching the game last night, I was rooting for the Aces.

One, because they were missing their point guard. I was actually very surprised how the Liberty came out. Like, I thought they were just going to, like, punch them in the mouth off a rip. And they didn't. And Vegas controlled that game even though they were losing most of the most of the game I felt like they were in control the whole time so they were down two starters including their floor general Chelsea gray head into game four but Asia Wilson put the team on her back and did well we got this move is late in the fourth last

night on board she hit the fade on Staley. Don Staley was on one. Can we translate what she says? Oh, I saw him. I saw him. Yeah. Yeah. Don is the best.

What's up on his liberty? Actually, they beat him in every category for the most part. Except the one that matters. Just the one that matters. Yep. That is. Just the one that matters. The one on the end. You know, Stewart just didn't...

Hmm? She just didn't get it going. That's you know... You got that pissed off girl on the other side. Listen man. It was a rough... You know, when you're the star player, you're the best player, that's not how you want to finish a game.

3-for-17 from the field. I mean, if we look at her whole playoffs, I mean, if you just look at her points, she scores points. But this was probably, like, the most inefficient, like, run of games of her, like, whole career, even back at UConn days. Like, we've never seen her play this inefficiently for so long. So I don't think she had a good playoffs. And I'm sure if you ask her, she would agree. But, yeah, being the MVP, the leader of that team,

like, you can't... You cannot finish the series like that. And a Muslim wing game. You got somebody who pissed off going at you on the other end. Like, she didn't have to go guard no... five games, like, go dead at you for four straight games, because she pissed off like that. Like that.

It probably had something to do with it. Sure. Yeah, she probably was off a little bit, but I'm pretty sure Aja going at her ass night in, night out, had something to do with it. Absolutely. Got to guard on one end, got to do this shit. Girl pissed off.

Yeah. Yeah. Aja went crazy. We got to give a shout out real quick to Sid Coulson. Sid Coulson. I love my girl. The night, night. Dude, the night.

Woo. Taking a flight. After you did it, game three. The level of pettiness, honestly, I was very impressed. It was nonstop. You know she stay petty. She's petty queen. But the whole team was just, it was beautiful to see.

I aspire to be that level of petty. The best stat line Sid have was in the first half four minutes four points three She came in just So aces are first to back to back champions since the 01-02 Sparks. Who's Sparks? You know, we're hopeful and optimistic for the future. They return their core four of Aja Wilson, Kelsey Plum, Jackie Young, and Chelsea Gray.

So is it too soon to call the Aces a dynasty? I don't think so. This is a very special team. And, I mean, people talk about super teams. And people got on Kelsey Plum for saying, like, oh, we came out, we got it from the mud, da-da-da-da. I mean, they did have three number one picks. It was nice mud. Yeah, it was nice mud.

It's still mud, but, like, all right. But, I mean, a lot of... That's genuine. They could have left. They stuck it through. They brought Becky Hammond in, which I think was probably their best move, was bringing her in to coach that group.

Yeah, the dynasty is starting. But I saw on Twitter yesterday, someone asked Lindsay Whalen, who was on that Lynx team, the point guard, like, where does this team compare to y'all? And she was like, we can talk about this when they get to four. And I was like, okay, Lizzy, spicy, but... It's a lot of spiciness.

It's a lot of spiciness. I love it. The spice is great. We need it. So after the game... Yeah, no, I love that. We need it. Yeah, that makes for the next season, you know what I'm saying? You trash talk now and it brews all next time I see you, like, have that same energy. Like, you know, I'm all for all the...

I'm gonna smoke all the time, so I'm all for that. That's what the game is missing. That pettiness that is actually already there, right? You see it on YouTube all the time Right when they're going back and forth and you just got to let it inside the game. Yeah Yeah, and I think it's because sometimes In the W like players bounce around so much So sometimes you can't be too petty because you're like I might be your team But I mean, I think now teams and mostly players too are going to make more of an effort to keep

cores together because at least since I've been in the league, I mean, I've been on four teams, but I'm not the only player that that's happened to. And I've been like outside of Chicago and Connecticut. So Chicago, I mean, Minnesota and LA, I've been like part of Chicago and Connecticut, so I mean Minnesota and L.A., I've been like part of a rotation and part of the core. And even after we won in Chicago, the whole team left. We won the championship, but everyone peaced out. So it's nice to see groups coming together and then just joining up all their pettiness and whatever and firing that energy off to other teams.

And a lot of other W players saw it. They were tweeting more than I've ever seen any of them tweet during the playoffs and the finals. So I think everybody's going to be petty and excited and spicy, and it's going to be fun. Start picking sides. Yeah, start picking. So after the game, the Aces talked their shit

and asked a question that one MVP voter needs to answer. Who voted Asia in fourth place for MVP? Who did it? Who did it? Step forward. Come on. Now's the time. For the real Slim Shady, please stand up.

Come on. Wait a minute. Hold it. Cassandra, please go with your question. We're not worried about that. I just want to know. The people want to know. We ain't going to jump you.

Yo, I love it. That whole thing. I just want to know. The people want to know. We ain't going to jump you. Yo, I love it, man. That whole group. I love it. That's what makes it fun.

It's the whole group that's petty. I love it. So Sid was on IG Live, but it was just fun watching them get progressively drunker. Like, start out sober after the game. Oh, Lord. But every five minutes, like, just drunker and drunk drunker drunker all ran up on the postgame interview But let's talk about Aja Wilson a bit. They had the speaker though playing Nuck if you believe that Like they're out there off the screen. I love it. They're so funny. We talked about before the show like it's gonna be

Wait, has it? It's about to be cracked. Just that alone. There's not been an NBA team that's wilder. No, not at all. Not at all. Not a chance. Ain't nobody did this. No, when they bust through the door, I was like, oh, God. Oh, yeah, they playing the speaker loud at the press conference. She can't answer the question. No. And they finna go home and act a fool.

Oh, man. Can never go wrong with a crime mob. I'm going to keep it real. Listen, man, I love that. Listen, enjoy that shit. Please, enjoy every minute of it. So Aja Wilson is the youngest player in WNBA history to win MVP, Finals MVP, Defensive Player of the Year,

only to do it in her first six seasons. She's also five-time All-Star, four-time All-WNBA, two-time MVP, two-time Defensive Player of the Year, two-time Champ, Finals MVP. And that's on period, with a capital T. Will Asia Wilson finish her career in the GOAT debate? I think so. Is she already there now?

No. I mean, she's just so young. And, I mean, I think we're talking about her body of work. It's going to be a no-brainer when she gets to that time where it comes to Hall of Fame, go debate, all these other things. But I mean, I don't really know what you can say. What more can she do? Maybe one year she leads the league in scoring. I don't know. I don't really know what more she can do. She's going to be on the Olympic team in the summer. She's just going to keep adding to her resume.

But I love seeing just a beautiful black woman doing it. And that's one of my favorite parts about it is that the league has tried to put a white face on it for so long. And even this year, Asia's had to fight that the entire season. So for her to come out on top like it's amazing and i'm very happy for her and i and i love that for the league and for all of us that you know feel like that we're not represented like we should be in the in the w you're getting a little emotional i appreciate that i know i'm being real and then we're signing this good but when sid grabbed the mic hit her with the 99 i was like oh this is you can But when Sid grabbed the mic, hit her with the 99, I was like, oh, this is, you can really see, like, there's real beef.

Like, there's real issues. There is, because I remember that game where Liberty beat the shit out of them and Asia didn't have a great game. Like, it was, like, just the way people were speaking about her and stuff like that. It was, like, it was odd. I was like, okay, she had one bad game, okay.

But that's fine because now the tables have turned. Like, y'all just got to have the same energy when it's the other way around. And that's all. That's all. And nothing like, she was 3 for 17 from the field. Game six, we lost to the Spurs on A floor. I was 3 for 23. Shit. I know the feeling.

Close our game? Uh-huh. I know the feeling. You got to go eat that. Yeah. Just stewing that shit off. Oh, that shit burns. Awesome.

Yeah. Oh, I'm sitting in my locker after the game. You want to throw up, dog? Like, you didn't do shit. And I think, listen, for me, I think I made, like, my first two shots of the game. Ooh, damn. I'm thinking it's going to be a good one. Who about to have 40 of these boys?

Psych. But the fact that I took 23 fucking shots. And, well, the fact that I got to, like, 15 caps shooting is the most impressive thing ever. But yeah, she had the stew in that, and yeah, and all that. Tim Dunn kicked my ass that night. You know what I'm saying? Asia kicked her, and all that. Trust me,

it's similar. Yeah, that shit. The producer said they wanted to run the tape, but they don't want to get on your back. So we just go... Oh, no. You don't have this. No, we good. If they have that already loaded up, like, whoo.

It's three for 23. No, it was a bad one. Like, it was a bad night at the office and he working on the other end and shit you can... Man.

So the super team era is here. It looks like it ain't going nowhere. Cheryl Swoops came on the show Monday. Said super teams are bringing fans to the W.ABA because of how lopsided the scores could be. Alexi, you're in the league.

You see it firsthand. Do you feel like this season was a pivotal moment in the culture of women's basketball from March Madness all the way through this WNBA Finals? It seems like it was historical. Yeah. I mean, we talked about the spiciness. That's something that they just have not allowed women to be, just very authentic and competitive and spicy and aggressive and emotional.

And they've always just, like, you guys are women. Like, just be quiet, play the game, go home. Everybody got to hold hands and be friends. And that's just not sports. No. So I'm glad that from college to now, like, because I was a little worried that after that college thing that the WNBA was, like, really going to try and lock down on the, like, trash talking and all that stuff, but they kind of just let us rock this year, which was great.

They seen them numbers. Exactly. They seen them college numbers, like, woo-hoo. So I'm glad. They came to be people's grandmother, man. Gotta let y'all rock, have fun, be free, you know what I'm saying? Say what you want. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah, they want to see that. Yeah, people want to see it. Like, that's what attracts, like, fans. Thanks. Like, people love competitive nature, trash talking and stepping over you and, yeah, wait till I see you and know ain't nobody gonna do shit. That's what I said.

Yeah, I love it. Who's the marketing in the dub? It's weird because it's like, are you not watching the world? Like what are you watching? You still in Beverly Hills, what is it, Beverly Hills Hillbillies? You still watching shows like that? Because the world is... The world thrives on controversy. Controversy.

Controversy and drama and all that. We need to see the beefs. But I don't think anything's going to be lopsided. I don't think this season was too lopsided. I mean, yeah, the Aces were the best team all season, but teams still beat them. Shit, we beat them. Sparks in 2024.

Let's start it now. Start to revive them. We beat them with a depleted team pretty much. So, I mean, this is a very talented league. I think that this free agency is going to be interesting, though, and I think the most intriguing player is Skylar Diggins. Okay. So wherever she lands, I mean, people are like, send her to Vegas.

She might. Please don't. I'm from L, people are like, send her to Vegas. She might. Please don't. I'm in L.A. We got much more to offer. There's like 120 in Vegas. Yeah, she need to... I don't know where she gonna go. She might stay in Phoenix.

I don't know. But she's definitely gonna be the free agent that kind of sets the tone, I think, depending on what decision she makes. I was out of the loop a little bit of the W. When did the Candice Parker thing happen? Like, she got a ring now like this? Yeah. Let's give Candice a little love. Absolutely.

She's the first. Sideline for most of the season. Yeah, the first player to win a championship with three different teams. She was on the team. Yeah, she just was hurt. Did she play at all this year? She played a few weeks. At the beginning. Yeah, she just was hurt. Did she play at all this year? She played at the beginning. Weeks?

Yeah, she played at the beginning. That's the way to go. Still get my check and my ring. Shout out to Candace. They got the squad and her, she... Yeah, that's what I said. That's crazy. Yeah, that shit is crazy.

Yeah, that's what I was getting at. She was still around. That's what I was getting at. She was at practice, she was at games. Like, wow. Yeah, she was there. So even having Candace on the bench... Yeah, I saw something the other day. Some chick didn't give her... She had a hand, she was at games. Yeah, she was there. So even having Candace on the bench. Yeah, I saw something the other day.

Some chick didn't give her. She had a hand out to give her five. And the chick like no look. She's like, hey, don't do that. Don't do that now. I'm like, yeah, oh, yeah. That's that you sitting in my seat thing. Don't do that now.

So Candace played 18 games this season. I have nine points per game. Shout out, Candace. Come back home now. Sparks, miss you. Let's rebuild. Let's get this championship feeling back in L.A. Well, let's keep this thing moving.

ESPN dropped an article this week detailing some of the off-court issues that have plagued Ja Morant and a pattern of questionable behavior by the Grizzlies star guard that led to his 25-game suspension. Morant is the man in Memphis, and according to at least one resident,

he's the biggest star in the city since Elvis. But with great power comes great responsibility. According to one team source, Josh's father, T, has been partly responsible for the situation that led to his suspension. This was an unnamed source, so we just got to point that out. They didn't want to put their name on it. This is what they said, though.

Is there ever going to be a rule put in place for anonymous sources? Yeah. No. Sort of say. No, because it keeps you out of legal troubles. Yeah. Right?

So, you know. I hate that. If you say source, it means you're the third party. Right. So if they just made the statement themselves, it can be under defamation. Right. So that's why everyone says source, but most of the times they're the source. Yeah.

Sources from the Rockets tell me James Harden ain't shit, right? You get to do that and hide behind this fake So T is this is from the unnamed source T has been a major driving force in all of this He never made the NBA, but this was his chance to live like he's an NBA superstar. That's been a problem from the beginning. Now, we've all been around the game. Parents living vicariously through their kids is nothing new in the sports world. AAU dads, you already know. Sweatsuits.

I said it yesterday. But, go ahead. Carry on. Carry on. No, you got anything else? No, go ahead. Tuck my chain in. No, I'm just kidding.

John took to IG to support his dad, posting this story on Wednesday. He said, keep living the dream, OG. This hoop and shit started with you. I just continue it. So John's a girl. Look how happy he is behind him. Like, this is such a cute picture. The usher, the usher.

I'm just saying. It is, give it usher. It's so spot on. Until you hear him talk, you know it's T. That's a dope picture. That is, that's a beautiful shot. So Ja's a grown man that can make his own decisions, but how much responsibility is on T. Moran to make sure Ja stays on the right path?

Are you throwing the page at zero? Is that a zero? Zero. That's a zero. Man, listen. Ja's in the NBA. That's what his daddy did, right? Got him through elementary, middle school, high school, and got him drafted.

That was his father's job, you know. He can't teach his son how to be a professional if he was never one, right? You know, he don't know about NBA money. He don't know about stardom, star power, you know, the friends that hang out with you, you know, so he's handicapped to what is moving forward in life, you know, so Ja is learning that in real time, right? So, you know, the responsibility is, you know, Ja being accountable for how he's living as a pro. You know, his dad is just going to be supportive and happy because it's, you know, his legacy is moving forward. You know, when it comes to just parenting, I don't see how, you know, I don't see what control T's gonna have over,

you know, Ja in the parenting department. Like, I don't think T is the one who called the son, you know, to the foot action. That wasn't T. That was mama right there. So, you know what I mean? It's zero. Yeah. Is this like, I'm trying to think of like It's zero. Yeah. Is this like... I'm trying to think of other parents in the league. Is this like the first time someone's dad has been like this? Blamed? Yeah.

Front and center? I mean, LaVar. LaVar. Oh, LaVar. You know, but obviously different. That was different. Yeah. So, I mean, yeah, I don't know. But the obsession with it is now. Like, it's over. Like, I'm released. Why do you like T so much? Like, it's, you know what I mean? Like, y' obsession with it is now. Like, it's over. Like, I'm released.

Why do you like T so much? Like, it's, you know what I mean? Like, y'all, but it's so crazy, because, like, last season, they was hyping him up crazy. Like, putting him on all the socials, posting him all the time, and now all of a sudden,

it's flipped. They build you up to tear you down. Yeah, it's odd. Like, y'all can't, because y'all saw how they were all acting prior to all of this popping off, and y'all saw how they were all acting prior to all of this popping off, and y'all were hyping it up and enabling it, and now all of a sudden y'all have a problem with it. I just think that's weird that they're still doing this.

Yeah, no, that horse left the barn a long time ago. Like, it started, the parenting needed to start a long time before he got to the NBA. You know what I'm saying? Like, where's the level of respect for your parents? You know what I'm saying? The level of that healthy fear of not to embarrass us, not to embarrass our last name. Like, where'd that go? So that started way before he got to embarrass us. Mm-hmm not to embarrass our last name right where they go So that started way before he got to the NBA I'm saying so with this just a statement. They trying to point the finger at somebody now. That's what that is

Like it ain't us. This is that I'm saying they do organization. This is that which Yeah, the man enjoying his son success absolutely I get it But You can't be the when your son is our fucking up in the streets. You can't be the loud one at the bar Just it gives the wrong impression. You know what I'm saying? Like whether it's accurate or not, perception ain't always reality. We all know that. Some shit might look one way, there could be something totally, you know what I'm saying? But in

this situation, you giving them ammunition to attack you because of your demeanor when you out amongst NBA people. You know what I'm saying? This is what I think I saw my own two eyes all-star weekend in Utah at the team hotel. You know what I'm saying? I don't see Jai at the bar. I see T at the bar with the homeboys, and you the loud, and you the one going getting shots for everybody.

At the team hotel, so the perception is It's daddy's fault yeah, they need to this way, you know I'm saying so now they go point the finger at you Now you got to try to reel this shit back in But it should have started long before he got to the NBA Now you try to have these hard conversations. No, I'm saying about the embarrassing mother family to respect not like It's fucking too late now the horse out the barn I'm saying he running rampant. It's a wild stallion in the field now He's running back. He ain't going back in the stable is until some drastic shit happened

25 games What is that drastic that you feel like right now? Yes Because it's the only thing that's happened as significant Some other shit coming out but but Allegedly happens this is just my opinion reading the article. I read the whole thing. A lot of sources, right? But a lot of these sources knew a lot of information.

So you got to imagine some of these sources are coming from inside the organization, if I had to guess. Yeah, like I said, they're trying to take it out of their plate. Exactly. Because there's some new shit coming out. They got wind of this new incident. Okay. Now we've done our part in trying to help the kid and this, that. Where is daddy at now?

You know what I'm saying? Is the new incident new or is it something old? We don't know. Is it something to punch somebody in the club or something? Some alleged, some have. I don't know. Allegedly. Yeah, all alleged.

Whatever it is, you got to, it got to be a, like I said, the respect part and the fear part as a father and son combination. You know what I'm saying?

Dynamic. You can ask, like, some shit don't cross KJ's mind to do. Mm-hmm. For theJ, like, some shit don't cross KJ's mind to do. For the fact, like, I got to see him if this don't go right. I got to talk to him. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah. Like, or I got to go see mom. Like, she going to be worse on him than I am. Because he don't want to disappoint her at all. It's a fear. For me, it's a fear. For her, it's disappointment. You know what I'm saying? So it needs to be that balance. And he never got that. So now he's doing shit and ain't no consequence, ain't no repercussion. Now the league stepped in. Team allegedly stepped in the first time. So Josh said with this 25 game suspension,

missed on him close to eight million dollars. And again, looking at this article, it's kind of similar to what you were saying yesterday about the Harden situation. Seems like the Sixers are now pumping this stuff out to make themselves look better, put all the onus and blame on Harden. This is no different with Ja.

Ja obviously made these decisions, made these mistakes. That's the problem. If you're grizzlies, y'all shouldn't be talking to nobody. Y'all shouldn't be talking to no sources because whatever is said looks bad on y'all

as a group because he's still part of you guys. It just makes no sense. I don't care what he's done. Until he's gone, then I can do, you know, sources say while he's my product, no. Shit, shut up.

Anybody I find out, everybody's getting fined because no matter what it's said, we're trying to focus on the first 25 games. Keep him out of the news. As long as we keep this negative energy around it, it kind of tears us apart to how much blame did you really deserve for enabling the but you know what it is man and It's too many people in

The locker room and organizations now that's in the immediate. It's entirely dog I Went to training camp the Clippers in the night. They flew everybody to Hawaii not locally. They went out and I went to practice No It's 35 people doing something that bitch In the gym 35 is listen you got 17 trainers for strength conditioning dudes you got the is somebody doing listen man everything got social media people you got the PR

people you got the training you got the it's so many people walking around there it's everybody ain't gonna shut up. Everybody ain't gonna mind their business. Everybody gonna, whether it's pillar talking, whether it's talking to the media, whether it's a scout, whether, no, it is too many moving parts. And that's why sources, there's somebody's talking.

Yeah, there's somebody. Look, there's somebody's talking. And I'm gonna pay. Don't know who it is? Mm-hmm. It's, pick one. I'm paying whoever wrote the article. Look, there's somebody talking. And I'm going to pay. Don't know who it is? Mm-hmm. It's pick one. I'm paying whoever wrote the article. Hey, who's the source? You can spin a wheel and you can throw a dart.

So let's just take this from the Gribbleys' perspective. Are the Gribbleys more upset about Ja's incidents or the fact that he got caught? Upset? I don't, I mean, what are they upset for? Hmm. Just dealing with this situation. No. I don't think they're upset about it. They got to deal with it. It ain't...

Yeah, I don't know. Upset? Upset? I'm gonna say more like a damage control, like... I mean, it's probably, like, a little annoying. What does that mean? But, like, he didn't hurt anybody. He... Yeah, it's, like a little annoying. What does that mean? But like, he didn't hurt anybody. Yeah, it's like, annoying to him. He's on the damn internet acting like his age. Yeah.

A little kid with a lot of money. A kid with a lot of money with no guidance. Like, that's... That's what it is. They actually should be happy that... But, I mean, like, Kenny, in your case, you're number one overall pick. How were you moving when you came into the league? Did you have a big crew?

Reckless. Reckless. Listen, man. If there was cameras or any... Some of the shit I got away with, bro, I can't talk about it because it... Listen, man, I wouldn't dare speak about it, but listen, dawg. Yeah, stupid. Dumb. speak about but listen dog yeah stupid dumb now no pops that he got see the thing about there's no excuse for it but I ain't had no pops growing up me my mom

and my sister my partners raised me handle pops at home to teach me nothing to guide me to give me no morals, nothing to be afraid of. My last whoopin', I was in fourth grade, dog. Look at my mama eye to eye at this time. What you gonna do to me? You know what I'm saying? Just real shit.

You know what I'm saying? That's real. So yeah, when I got money, I did some reckless, crazy shit at times, yeah. But I didn't do it around nobody. Wasn't no cameras around. Yeah, I did some dumb shit, but I knew, I'm not going to do this when there's thousands of people around. No.

Not for Instagram Lives. Not at all. This is, you know what I'm saying? Here's what Ja did. All of it That rates like a Z in NBA stuff Z that is that is amateur hour Yes, and like that is amateur that ain't even to the problem. We have it with it is the camera

Yeah, the camera. That's the that's the problem. We we all have. Like, dude, we done dumb shit. We all, listen, can't say they haven't. Not doing cameras. We went away from people. Like, we just... There was cameras. A lot of us...

My whole rookie year... It would have been the last of the year. He can't compete with my rookie year. Listen, it would have been... Listen, dog. My rookie year, he can't compete with the rookie Gilbert. That's I'm sorry

Well dead ass, bro Like if I wasn't write a book and put this shit in the book people like no fucking way, bro Thank like no way you did this no way you got away with it. No way you not like no way you didn't do time Like yes, thankfully're 20 years, 20-year statute of limitations. I'm dead-ass serious. I don't even know. I can't even say something. Where I was, listen,

where I was in the shit that I was doing, oh, yeah, that would lock my dumb ass up. Me not knowing the laws, because that's the thing. We don't know the laws. I'm from the South. We're doing dumb shit. Consequences would have been dire. You know what I'm saying dire dire had I got caught and I tell

him anything is and I didn't the thing I tell KJ all this shit I'm saying I tell it to him all don't do stay away from this So it's points of reference fear. There's a daddy some dumb shit dog and to your credit I see KJ out and about yeah, always nice I'm my day should be turning away more My first gun charge it was reported that I was going to the gun range. You know, so how I got in trouble was innocent. I was going to the dentist, and the gun was actually in the car, right?

But I just now remember why it was in the car. It was the night before. And someone was outside my house, like I guess it was making out and my dogs and since it and do kept teasing the dog So my dog barking Right now I was like you just gonna keep making my dog bark here I come and then loaded the car and chase this man all around That's some shit I would have did. That's what I'm saying.

That's some shit I would have did as a rookie. That's just stupid just for no reason because the dog barking, I can't sleep. Now I'm going to chase this dude for 20 goddamn minutes for no damn reason. So you brought the gun to the dentist? And then so like. You left it in the car. I left it in the car. I left it in the car.

So you forgot it was in there? I left it. Yeah, I forgot it was in there. And then went to the dentist in the morning. And then dude in the car. So you forgot it was in there? I left it, yeah, I forgot it was in there and then went to the dentist in the morning and then dude pulled me over, leaving the dentist's office. Just looked like a suspect. At least you got the dental one. So I opened it like, oh shit.

Ah, hey, how you doing officer? I don't have my license and registration. Damn. Oh, just being dumb, man. Oh yeah, no, it just being dumb, man. Oh, yeah, no. It's a situation, man. I...

Dude tapping on my window in Denver. Tap, tap. Man, what is your problem, dog? He... Hey, man. Now he all loud out there. The cop come up to the car. Yeah, Mr. Martin, yeah.

This is the second, third time me hearing about you having a gun in public. Like... Man, I ain't trying to bother, but I'm trying to get home safely, man. I'd rather be caught with it than... Yeah. ...be caught with it. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. time me hearing about you having a gun in public. Like, man I ain't trying to bother about it, I'm trying to get home safely man. I'd rather be caught with it than without it. Like, you get home safely Mr. Martin. Just keep it up. My bad. Yeah, my bad. N***a, tapping on my damn window. You trying to die man? Like... Oh man,. John can't Man his is that so just imagine somebody he's happening on my window with his camera phone and I didn't put the pistol in his face Just imagine

Thinking about the club fights and shit back. Oh See I was good about that Incredible hoax. No hopes now I leave I Ain't touch nobody plenty people got beat up huh plenty people got beat up. I was I didn't touch a soul It might be hard people to believe I ain't touch no I Did That's why I'm like yeah Player say when player even the 80s like like, I mean, not 80s,

but like the 90s and all these reporters now, like, how dare y'all like talk about him knowing what was going on in the eras that y'all was reporting in, that y'all heard and some of the things that was going on. Y'all, y'all know what Ja was doing. This redhead, that's baby food. Y'all out here getting caught with prostitutes. Yeah. Sniffing coke in the club.

What? Listen, man. You got cocaine falling on the corner of your skin. Yeah, yeah. Box him out. He got a whole nickel bag of cocaine right here. That is wild. That's what I'm saying.

There was stories, listen man, I'm teammates of guys that played early 90s, late 80s. Man, stories of dudes getting to the arena early parking on the ramp sit out there and drink him a 12-pack before the game listen man no wow two beers per quarter during the game they put two in the little gatorade bottle he He was playing No, he what he no no, no, he was suited, but he wasn't getting okay Then he got in one game. He got in one game cuz he was talking shit. Yeah I think you told us was playing yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he got his drug ass got in there Told the story every game just drinking a peg just Yeah, that was the van baker's. Oh, no, that was the van baker shit. This man was drinking during the game

thought that's them I Remembered vividly we own the fetal line and somebody asked somebody like I mean that's you smell away now. I think they ain't me That's Vince. No, anyway, I was like, oh it's true cuz you are you you heard it? Mm-hmm, but then it's just started coming you had heard it. But then the shit started coming out. Like, this man was going to the back, taking shots, lick a man during the game. What? This is...

I've never thought of it like that. Like, people who have covered the league in the past and who act like this now. Come on, man. What? I've never thought about that. I know the media wasn't crazy, but y'all know.

Y'all know. Y'all know. If it came to everyone opening up their closets, right? He ain't even in the top 1,000. There's 5,000 NBA players that ever played.

He's probably in the 5,000. Yeah, he's in the 5,000. Compared to... He's in the 5,000. He's with the white folks. Shout out Vin Baker, 13 years over. He's there with the white folks. Oh, yeah.

No, Vin bounced back from it. Yeah, he's acknowledged. He told his story. No, Vin told his story, bounced back from it. No, shout out to him. No, he's sober now. That's a great recovery story. You know what I'm saying?

My dad played in the 80s, Gil. That's what I'm saying. All the things you're talking about. Let me hear him. You got teammates pulling guns on teammates, telling the rep. That's what I'm saying. All the things you're talking about. I mean, here, I'm like, you got teammates pulling guns on teammates, telling the rep. I'm like, come on. Come on.

Y'all need to stop. Like, just stop. Like, this right here in his car, man. That is Barney level, man. I can show that to my kids, man. Yes. I'm going to be real. Oh, look at Jabba Ram, man.

He's having fun right here. As a little kid seeing some of that shit, like, 80s, going, now he was like, whoa. Yeah, that's what's up some of that shit They ate it all you know, it was like, oh, yeah I'm adult like oh damn. I know what that is. Yeah Them dudes came up in though in the prime Crack era you can't tell me a few of them dudes wasn't crack heads man Functioning crack heads. You can't tell me. The way them niggas was partying in the 80s and the 90s.

You can't tell me there wasn't a few functioning crackheads out there. Just Dennis Rodman himself. We know Jordan and his part. Dennis Rodman, if he... I'm going to take a vacation in the middle of the season. I got some shit.

During the finals, I'll be on the field. We the middle of season. I got some shit during the final We got we got the first game we got the first round I'm being I'm being Vegas I see y'all when I come on I'm going to wrestle Some new shit though, that's the funny part like I'm mother go turn up with Hulk Hogan in it Come on man. There's the last question on topic. Jock can't change the past, but what does he need to do to ensure his future in the league? Focus on the game.

I mean, you know, like, no one's questioning your talent when you're out there hooping. So, you know, give them that's it for two... I don't even know what I just said. I'm fucking up today. Just give them that to like criticize you about just your game itself. You know, like don't give them chances to pry into your life. Like, you know, as NBA players, we know how to stay out of the public. You know, We don't know what Kevin Durant do when you're not playing, you know, Kawhi Leonard. We don't know who we don't know

They got kids spouses. That's how that's how good Any time we play he's on the boat. We don't know if he live on the boat. We don't know nothing about like so that's That's how you supposed to be bad. Like when you got on that court man disappear man We only see Kauai during the game We got two places see Katie in the comments section of Instagram in the game. Other than that, nobody knows what this man doing. Like, we don't even know if he live in America. Yeah, so he got to be like that.

He got to be like that. Oh, he might live in the arena. They so good at day craft. They might live in the locker room. No one nobody's access to. That's what I'm saying. Like, in the social media, think about it. In the social media world, like, you really... There's so many players we don't know shit about.

You don't know nothing about the player. Nothing. You don't know nothing about a player in the social media world. Like, all you know is what you can see on his Instagram and the game. Other than that, you don't have no idea who these people are, what they do, what they like. And it's not an accident either. That takes a lot of intention to look that way. Because people are weird. Like sometimes it's not even you. We're very aware. People are weirdos.

You can catch Jay-Z, Drake. You can't catch Kevin Durant. And Kawhi Leonard? Yeah. What? Oh, shit. Shit. Like, Sid, you ever write? Oh, that's, listen, boy, that's so true. I didn't know you had a family. Damn. That is so true.

And to find out, like, they really, like, they got a sense of humor and shit like that, that is amazing. Like, to find out they do real human shit. Like, you a real fucking, like, he's funny. That's so. You're a person. You're a real fuck right. Robots. He's funny. That's all. You're a person. You're a person. It's only pre-season, but we got to do a very special hibachi time.

Oh, look at that. Hey now, graphics. I know, right? Underdog got big bread. We got new graphics. Shout out to the crew on the show, too. They've been working overtime to ensure the show looks good. They got new graphic shout out to the crew on the show today been working on my to ensure the show They got new color scheme, but I want to know who in charge of the fucking air in here, though

That's what I want to know. Oh, man The AC be on all day. I know you got too many levels and too much square footage We need to get that swamp with a thermostat at This little lights It's the light are the is, it's the lights. Are the lights? And I'm drinking that tea. Are you drinking that tea? I was like, okay, I thought you was...

And I'm drinking that tea, barrette. I got on that. You got on winter suit. You got on wet, wet cold weather. You got on rain suit. The paintball fit. That's nice though. I like that.

The paintball fit. And I'm sweating through it. I like that. I got to stop putting on lotion. I like that. And apparently I got to start, so here we are. I'm sweating through it. I'm sweating through it.

I'm sweating through it. I'm sweating through it. I'm sweating through it. I'm sweatingball fit and I'm sweating through it. I like that. I gotta stop putting on lotion. I like that and apparently I got a start so here we are It was a pre-season pool party in the garden on Wednesday night Wizards guard Jordan Poole gave fans a preview of what's to come this season. Mm-hmm. Looks like a look we got some highlights Look at the man. Oh. Right away. Wait, look at the time on the clock. They ain't even reset the clock yet. Two-two. Two-two.

That was my pick to have the... Y'all remember what I said, right? Yeah, now... Breakout year. The way his like... He on a mission. That boy like... You ain't just gonna punch him.

You ain't never seen a green light like this one. This is the one right here. Oh, look at this. Oh, yeah. Oh, my God like, listen. You ain't just going to punch me in the back. You ain't never seen a green light like this one. This is the one right here. Oh, look at this team. Oh, yeah. Oh, my God. Yama. He ain't even happy it went in. That's why you know it's bad when he's salty.

The pool dropped 29 points in the first half, finished the game with 41 points in three quarters. Gil, you're the last great guard to go from Golden State to the Wizards. What advice would you give Jordan Poole about being the man in Chocolate City? You're doing that every night. Trust me. The city's yours. The city loves hooping, man. That's one thing the city loves. I mean, the DMV,

they love hoopers, man. So, you know, you going out there performing like that, right, the city's yours, man. Like, you ain't got to worry about no trouble. No, thugs the the the dealers They ain't gonna bother you man. They gonna protect you out there. You ain't gotta have nobody guard They use the scores. Yeah, they used to school. Yeah from high school on you name them

They yeah, we got three of the greatest scores all time from the Chuck, got AI, Mello, and KD. They've been watching guys score, and there's a long, long list of guys that put their ball in the basket. So, yeah, they're going to be all right. Any places he should avoid? You said he's good everywhere. He can pull up anywhere.

That preseason game got you a green pass everywhere. And I'm serious. I didn't have nobody to guard. Didn't need nobody to guard. They want to see you on the court. Like, you representing them, right? Now, you know, out-of-towners. Like, there was one time

I was coming to the club, like, yeah, buddy, have a good old night. Woo! Got out the car, and they was like, yeah, not tonight, G.A. Huh?

Yeah, we got some business to handle in the club. So, yeah, you know, get ready for the yeah, not tonight, G.A. Huh? Yeah, we got some business to handle in the club. So, yeah, you know, get ready for the game, you know, in two days. Damn, man. All right, man. Got in my car and got on out of there. Right, and that's just. Yeah, look out for you.

They gave you advance warning? Advance warning. That's elite level. Yeah, you need that. No, always. I know, you need somebody to get on the mic like, yo, Kenny Martin, this motherfucker tonight, buy himself all his jewelry.

If anybody touch him, you got to deal with me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. This is another question. So, club back in the day, they used to do those announcements. Did y'all ever be bothered by those? Still do to this day. You got Kenny Martin in the building. Yeah, I hate it.

Yeah. But that night, it was probably needed. So, yes, shout me out again. Tell them again. Tell them again. Tell them again. No, you know, it's like the MV. Yeah, they love basketball at that joint.

So we talked a little bit about Poole yesterday, and we had Andre Wadala this summer said that Poole maybe averaged like 30 points per game this season. So my question for you, Wizards probably won't fare too good in the East, but can Jordan Poole make an all-NBA team this season? I mean, you know, you probably need a winning record to be on that. I mean, I think if he leads the league in scoring or top two, top three, I'm pretty sure they're going to have to put him on there. And from the looks of that team and him, he probably would be one or two leading the league

in scoring. He scores too easy. And we're talking about regular season basketball where it's just... At the beginning too. He's just free for free and ain't nobody yet. He played all 82 games last year. I think 76 the season before. So he's going to be available.

He'll hit that 65-game threshold. He's about to start really hot. Oh, he is. Obviously. It's already starting. So he's just got to, I think if he does that, like maybe first 10, 15 and like just gets his numbers. Boy ain't seen the shot he didn't like yeah, never he didn't go to state the only thing with him is like right now is just like this is

This is all you right here, right and from there is just being consistent like you got to try to figure out how to be great Every night, you know cuz shots like that, you know, well, you got another try to figure out how to be great every night, you know, because shots like that, you know. Well, they got another aggressive score, too. Kuz ain't passing that bitch neither. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Kuz ain't passing that bitch neither. Do you think it's going to affect him at all? You can wave him off, though.

You think it's going to affect him if, like, say the Wizards, like, don't win a ton? He's so used to being on a team that just wins all the time. And obviously that, I don't know if that'll affect him coming in every night. No, I think he's in a space where he's trying to figure out I want something for myself and I want to build. And I mean, he got traded to the right team to do it. Everybody wants to be a star he got the, he got, he got traded to the right team to do it. Right. And that's, you know, every, you know,

everybody wants to be a star and everyone wants to be put into a position to be a star. Right. Right. It's, it's cool, you know, like being behind other players, but you know, like he's in a situation, like this is what I want to see if I can even, you know, carry a franchise. So he's too talented of a scorer. Yeah. Well, I don't think, I don't really think no one expects, like, winning to, what, 2026, maybe, 2025? So he has about two years of just being Terminator. I know, right? Lord, Lord, Lord.

So Poole's played 30 minutes per game past two seasons. I'm sure that'll increase significantly this year. But just being in your shoes, going from going to, I think you're 18 your second year, to now having that breakout season with the Wizards. What's the hardest part about making that transition now, where you're asked to carry more of that scoring burden for the duration of the season? Being consistent. You know, like trying to, you know,

carry a team when the shot's not falling, trying to, you know, get into the free throw line, understanding, you know, teammates and, you know, understanding body language. You know, when he played, you know, with Golden State, it's Steph Curry and Klay learning his body language to see, okay, Poole is, you know you know out of it today let's see if we can try to get him involved now he has to take the responsibility of what you know currying him

did like when he see his players sitting there like this and you know knowing that you know even though I made it I'm hot you know let me go ahead and try to get him the ball a couple times so he can shut the fuck up over there right because you know this man you know you got me looking back because if I would have missed it everybody everybody would have been pointing at me. You know, his teammates upset. Right? And, you know, it's just little things like that, understanding like, you know, I might have to give up this shot to go get him the ball a couple times, let him miss. And I'm like, I told you so. That's why I don't pass you the ball. You know, so it's just one of those things like, you know, understanding that you are the number

one option, understand that two and three is going to need the ball a little bit too so it's just one of those things like, you know, understanding that you are the number one option. Understand that two and three is going to need the ball a little bit too. That's all. So let's talk about that teammate. Danny Avdia. Yeah. Say it again. Avdia. I did the pronunciation thing on Google trying to get it right. It's a

hard name. He wasn't feeling the pool party. Let's show the clip again. We got a big zoom dance. I'm open. You're a Swiss though. There's going to be a lot of that this year. You know it's bad when you make the shot. And they still fizz. They'll find a place.

So what advice would you give Jordan Poole's teammates? Listen, buckle up. There's going to be a lot of that shit this year. Trust me, Jack. Fix your mentality. Yeah, fix your mentality. Yeah, yeah. Come on. The same Bradley Bill.

He ain't going under 22. But you know what it is? How long they been in training camp? Like a week or so. They had a couple preseason games. He been seeing this shit every day That did that didn't start today that started like a few days ago He'd been open a few times. He didn't hear passing to him in practice. He

Like if he would have just took the if he just pump fake and took the one to dribble pull up right there I don't think he would have got that but the fact that he took the one dribble and then did the side step back to the Oh that was on that play? No, he fumbled it? Nah, he just took the dribble and then side step back to the three Oh, it looked like he fumbled it and stepped back. That's what I look at. I'm like, yo this boy wild No, no, no, he's wild cuz that was actually the move like wait a minute That looked like he lost the ball. And that's why he's so hard to guard. That was just an easy, ugh, bop.

Now I got some more shit. I got some more shit to work on. So it may just be preseason, but the Kings and Warriors went at it Wednesday night, building on the burgeoning rivalry from their meeting in the first round of the playoffs last season. Down 18 late in the third quarter, Warriors mounted the comeback, setting the stage for Seth to do what he does best. Got the rock. De'Aaron Fox doing his best.

But, grill's image. That shit ain't fair. Man, that man's a sicko. Like, what? In his grill. That shit ain't fair. Man, that man's a sicko. Like what? In his grill. Night night. And he hit him with the pre-season night-night to add insult to injury. So Karl Malone is the oldest MVP in NBA history.

He won the award in 1999, 35 years old. Steph turns 36 in March. Does Steph have one more MVP season in them I Mean if this somehow, you know win You know somehow they win he averaging, you know 20 from 25 to 28. Yeah, he's gonna be in you know in the talk You know, you know with him is gonna be all about you know winning if his team can you know win in the talks. You know, with him, it's going to be all about winning. If his team can win in a regular season.

Because he's not going to have the numbers that everyone is going to have in their 30s. So it's probably just going to, that record is going to help him. If his team is one or two this year somehow, somehow in the West, yeah, he will be a big favorite You know what you think I agree I was Trying to Cuz everybody yeah, you got to put the other guys. That's doing it for their team Yeah, there's a possibility I ain't gonna rule it out I

Mean let's let's keep it real Because he's capable of playing out of his mind. We all know that. I think he'll have to be top five in scoring or something. I mean, he averaged 29-6 in six last year. That's what I said. He averaged 29. So you put them number one or two on a team that no one has, where do they have them at? About seven or eight?

Let's see what the odds are for the Warriors. Hold on, give me a second. But you know the media, if they predict you like seven, eight seed, and you do better than that, oh, boy, they try to make it up. Like, oh, that's the MVP. I always had him as the MVP. Like, shut up. Shut up.

It's just tough. They're currently based on the odds fourth right now. Oh. Yeah. I'm, I'm, because you still got to put, I say no. Remember, they didn't gain anyone. That's it. So they lost someone. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So I just think, man, the way this, I'm just thinking the way the other guys are playing. Some of the younger guys. You got the way Giannis is going to play this year. You still got Nikola. You got Joel coming off one. You still got Jason Tatum in this situation. You still got, you know what I'm saying?

It's... Do they get the, I mean, do they get the, I mean, because their teams got better? Because the team itself got better, right? If you're saying this team hasn't got anybody, but they lost someone that was important, and they go one, two, or three, and he's averaging 29? That's what I'm saying. It's a possibility. Because we're expecting Jason Tatum to average about 27 to 29 and his team be one.

Like, you know, like, if we had to vote, we'd be voting, yeah, Boston going to be one, Bucks going to be one. Like, no matter who you pick, at that point, it's 50-50 for one of those two. Right? You know, so it's, you know, their wins is going to put them up there, but it might be like what they did with Giannis, right? Right? His team is number one. He's playing better and they're like, mmm

Same thing. Yeah, you're third and rank is like I'm gonna do the Nicola last year's team team is number one number one numbers was better and he Don't win it again. Like you know, we're not giving him three So like not three. Yeah, so they yeah. So stupid. Like... Not three. Yeah. Shit, ain't nobody ever did it. They might not give Steph the MVP because of the whole Magic Johnson shit. Yeah.

You know what I'm saying? Yeah, you know. You said you was better than Magic. Nah. So Steph... You be one more MVP, we not gonna give it to you. Steph is sixth in MVP odds right now behind Joker, Luka, Giannis, Tatum, and Embiid. But after the game, Steph showed some love to GP too, huh?

Nothing keep my opinion to myself This is what this show is for The people want K marks opinion they crave it they do Is Luca the best player on this team Production wise I didn't ask you that. Enough said. But in the MVP role, he's the fourth best player in the NBA compared to the bullshit list from the other day. He and the MVP conversation. And in my opinion, I don't think he's the best player on this basketball team.

But that's for another. Never mind. Move on. Just sip my tea. This is. So who's the best player on the Mavs if Lucas not? Hey, I mean, I know one. Put it like this, you know when people be talking about one-on-one. I Know if you ask then we do who's the best one-on-one player there? I guarantee it won't be who they think it is on be Luca. I'm saying

Guarantee you line them up. Let him play once. Oh He couldn't be then we say oh he got mopped every time every time dog and you line him up against Kyrie It'll be listen He might don't touch the ball. If you give Kyrie the ball first, he might, Luka might won't touch the ball. 11-0? Hey. Luka can't guard this goddamn camera stand. No, no, but that's what I'm saying.

But when they say, where y'all ring Dinwiddie? Yeah. All right. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? You can be him. That's all I'm a stain. No, no, but that's what I'm saying. But when they say, were y'all ringed in, Witty? Yeah. All right. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Be to DM. That's all I'm saying. That's that value. That's that value.

Is Luka good? Absolutely. That value 101 is different. Yeah, see, I'm not, see, and that's the thing with real basketball people. Mm-hmm. Number, like,

if your numbers don't equate to something, they're just numbers. And I look at you, who you are, and what you're doing, and you're... I look at Kyrie like, shit. Yeah, give me 11. Yep. Give me number 11. And to that point, we didn't hit on it when that list came out, but Luca ranked fourth. Yeah on that list. Yeah mass finished 11th Yeah last season. Yeah the math not mapping and they mad than at all. That's what I'm saying didn't

The goddess feelings Most people do their rankings how they feel. Oh, but the list ain't rankings, though, so it's a popularity contest. It ain't even a popularity contest. It's not rankings. So, like, when you say he's the best in the world, right? He's the number one player in the NBA, and I say doing what?

Doing what? I mean, and, you know, like, because he has a better team than everybody, or you're saying if he's the best individual player one-on-one. You take everybody's team everybody or you're saying if if he's the best individual player one on you take everybody's team away And you're saying who's the best player in the NBA? Like they had to go one-on-one or however you want to do it. Your list is horrible And that's I think how that list was basically put together. No, they base it off of team No This was basically put together. No, they based it off of teams. No, no, no. No, it ain't star versus star.

So, I got some insight after my tirade the other day. I got some insight with someone who's... Yeah, in the... It's a pick-em situation. They give them two names and pick one. Out of the two? Do that like a hundred times. Do it a hundred times.

It's you or you. Like a bracket type. So it's you or... Gilbert or Lexi. Okay, I like Gilbert. Gilbert or Josiah. I like Josiah. Okay, and I was hoping

you were saying that. I'm just saying, I was hoping you were saying that. So it gives you two names, LeBron or Steph. Basically, it comes down to who you like better? Yeah So now with the whole shit would jog it in trouble Kyrie who he is all it that explains where they are on the fucking

List yeah, that's why Russ ninety fucking four because the people don't like him. That's what it explains You know I'm saying so it's feelings like yeah, so it's So therefore, like, yeah. So we touched on it that day, though. I'm saying because what changed in Ja's game? Nothing. Didn't he drop, like, 30 spots or something? Yeah, they had him top 10 last year. He was nine. And last year, he was playing like a top eight player.

Yeah, you know what I'm saying? That was, what, like, 32, 33? 34. 33, 34, whatever it is. You know what I'm saying? Kyrie 34, Ja's 34. Yeah, they got them right next to each other just That makes sense 33 and 34 right

We said we said if you put 10 NBA players together. Yeah and had them do the list. Yeah, we'll be arguing for weeks Yeah, but yeah, but I thought about it. We already talked one and two So after the show I thought about I was like They got Luka fourth on their list. Excuse like, they got Luka fourth on their list. Excuse me. They got Luka fourth on their list. Luka might not, Luka ain't the best player on his team. And I'm like, damn.

And I said it to myself when I thought of it. I'm like, damn, I should have said that on the show. Well, you just did, so I got to add something. You know what I'm saying? But I brought it back. You know what I'm saying? But yeah. Do you feel like Luka's measured differently in comparison to other NBA superstars?

Yeah. For sure. Absolutely. European white guy. Hate to put it in this, but yeah, it's exactly what it is. What has he done that Trae Young hasn't done when Trae Young gets criticized like fucking no other?

Like, people ride the hell out of Trae Young. Mm-hmm. You know what I mean? What has... That's all I'm saying. Like, you just look at that comparison alone. Nothing else. Just look at how people criticize Trae

and what they think about Luka. The knock on Trae, they say he doesn't play winning basketball, but when you look at their... And Luka does. But that's what I'm getting to. Shit. In the West, you can say the West is tougher than the East

whatever you want. It's who we like. It's comparing apples and oranges. It's who we like when it comes down to when we're ranking stuff no one knows how to take out the biased part of them and we're gonna we're gonna pick who our favorites are. And that's the problem with voting because you know, you're making it seem like it's real

right like that's I said if if If skip had a vote on who's the best right in? LeBron is one of the guys we already know he's yeah If you get expect if he's picking step you give him steph LeBron. He's picking step 100% of the time Luca LeBron Whole season and it's weird. Like I wonder if we skip does his pick him for underdog. It just all lowers on LeBron Every time all over People lose money to be a hater That's just that's just that's just how it is. I mean, it's

Like I just wish they just... They had, like, a one-on-one tournament. Just so you can see that the murals... The murals won't even be nowhere near there. One? Depends on how many dribbles.

True. Because, you know, one-on-one, you're going three dribbles, right? Well, he probably don't need too many but the puzzle Yeah, I mean does it where you give him the ball? Where you give him the ball at top of the key top of the key and he gets Jimmy Butler matchup Jimmy go stand him up. Yeah Do we guess if we can already see that? We know what Jimmy gonna do to him stand his ass To We can already see that game. We know what Jimmy going to do to him. Stand his ass. No. Ah, get up there. One, two.

One, two. There's guys that you, like, you be like, yeah, he's a one-on-one player. Like, when people hear about one-on-one, they be like, oh, LeBron over there. Like, when they be doing that, and I'm like, oh, LeBron's going to lose. He can't play him one-on-one. This is a one-on-one player. This is more of a five-on-five player like when you played you can you can see who to break down in the match But the five-on-five is more important than the one-on-one, right? Not when you trying to rank who the best player in the world. I'm just asking

Like when you say the best player in the world, what is the criteria of you saying that? Is it best team player versus best... No, no, no. You can be ranked... Like, Michael Jordan... Michael Jordan, his team wasn't winning, but everybody knew he was the best player in the world. And I got a thought of something.

This must should be working, bro. Uh-huh. This must should be working. So, if they're going to have to, like, Chet, Rook, Wimby, and Scoot on the list, I ain't got no problem with them being on the list. But they need to be fucking 99, 98. 100?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. They need to be at the back end of it. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, you can definitely have them on the list. But they need to be on the back end because there ain't no way they're better than guys that played in the league already. That's all I'm saying. Has Wimby shown you anything?

Oh, he nutmegged me yesterday. No, no, no. Hey, listen. At 7'4", he was like, hey nigga. Listen. No, no, no, no, no. Hey, listen. At 7'4", he threw the, I was like, hey, big fella. No, I ain't taking nothing away from his skill set. Boy, it's absolutely skill. You got to let him earn it.

That's all I'm saying. It should be real-time rankings. Real-time, real, you know what I'm saying? Because he ain't played no NBA men and shit. For sure. So he should be already at the back. Yeah. Just because you ain't played. Yeah, because you that's all but then for him to had a

World with all the between that boy. I was like you see the money through it and threw that back You got to have fun the lefty on the Thomas Brian Brian faces like Look like oh, I ain't see nobody do that But I was watching that clip wait for it to pan over to KG, saying, hell no, trash ass nukes. You know what the funny part is? Just his skill, what he's done shown, just in the glimpses of him, you can already tell.

There's no bust. Yeah. Yeah. There's no, if you call him a bust at any point in life, something's wrong with you. As long as he's healthy, just what he's shown you that he's capable of, from the dribbling package to the passing, to the moves, to- And where his shot is, right? They did a still shot of him and KD shot side by side, right?

And it's going to get higher the more you work on it, the more you have shooting coach, like NBA coaches working with it. It's going to get higher and higher, and ain ain't nobody gonna be able to get to it. It's like Katie So it's like Katie. You're not like you're not blocking. There's no you there's no human. Yeah blocking his shot I mean check but that's if chip jumped first Yeah And you know somehow got it or someone made him alter it and then he tried other than that when he comes to us Want to pull up because you one thing

You cannot do It's put Rudy go bear on him. Yeah, we already seen what he did when he was He gonna have this he met okay, you know have met that bitch dance and I get Them talk about now. No, he did it to him now you see him doing I'm talking this this confident this confident went beyond right now He's even it's dribbling package like it's gonna be harder really man He go hit the motherfucking Rudy with the boom boom boom hands up Rudy go die He gonna drop that bitch down and he gonna be looking at the back of that one They gotta go yeah, I like what I...

No, no. He's tough. I love how a Steph convo quickly shifted to Luca. They shifted to Wimby. Oh, yeah, no. That's what makes this show great. Yeah, and I just...

What was it about Steph? Oh, MVP. Oh, yeah. Will he win another... Will he win another MVP? That's my point. It's a possibility, but... Hey, we're going to have

to go back to it. It's a possibility. That's the goal we're never go back to it. It's a possibility. It's a possibility. That's the goal we're making in this show. We want y'all to get in y'all's hands. Throwing wrenches in the show.

Here you go. Let's tune this up. Went from yes to eh, maybe. We had no plans of talking to Luka today, but you raised a very, very, very important question. Now let the chat

go at it with each other. Yeah, please. So let's talk a little bit about Zion. Zion's return to the Pelicans is one of the most intriguing storylines this season. Zion looks solid against the Magic Tuesday night. 16 points, five steals, two blocks, only 15 minutes. Big body. It's tough. I hope he's following that LeBron blueprint. Okay. Give me those. Know what to do with it. So, but let's take it out.

In the past three seasons, Zion has played in 114 of 317 possible games, missed the entire 2021-22 season with a foot injury, missed 40 games last year with a pulled hamstring. Now, this isn't an apples-to-apples comparison, but people forget Embiid only played 31 games in his first three seasons. He missed the first two with a foot injury. Zion's still 23 years old. He doesn't turn 24 until next July. How big of a deal are these injuries and should everyone give Zion time to get his body right?

I think because he was supposed to be the next LeBron. You know, he was, everybody was, you know, focused on him. Like, you know, Steph started his career off with injuries. And look how he finished it off, right? You know, so, you know, at 23, I mean, he has a lot of time, you know, to really get his, you know, body situated, to really adapt mentally and physically to the league. So this might be year one of the next 10 years. So, you know.

Yeah. I think that now, I mean, he's a little older. He's still like pretty young. But to take it upon himself to like eat better, stay in shape, like do the little things that maybe he didn't know how to do when he first got into the league, like now that's on him. But if he can play like that, like it's going to be great for him. And we've seen him play like that before. He just hasn't been on the court enough, but I think everyone should give him a little grace to get his body back together for sure. This question for all three of y''all so we talked about Zion's died He pulled up on us in Vegas that he's trying to you know

He's doing the best he can but good I think to your point when you're younger You're not eating good. So so when you came to the league, what kind of stuff were you eating? And what point did you start focusing on diet and getting that nutrition, right? You can look at him you can tell he ain't never been on a diet. Some people are just blessed. Yeah, he's just blessed. Just blessed. Just natural athletes. Well, you're lucky, K.

Man, I got to me, I had 3.5% body fat as a rookie. What was the diet like? Were you even caring about that or was it McDonald's or whatever? Eat whatever the fuck I want. Any hour. Any hour. Any hour. I'm hungry the next hour. Fucking metabolism out of this world.

I'm like, nah, man, I used to eat bullshit, man. Like, real, like, I ate like how Chad Johns be saying he ate. Like, I probably ate McDonald's like that. Ocho diet? But, yeah, I had Ocho diet. Ocho diet. Yeah, I had Ocho diet. Yeah Top athlete. Yeah, I ate bullshit. I never I just thought eating breakfast till Maybe year two I'm actually get out of practice be driving home got a pull over my blood sugar's fucking in the basement

Lightheaded like what the fu-uh, oh, whoa. Like, I ain't ate breakfast. I didn't went out to practice for three hours. Hard as shit. Nothing in my system. Shit, I still struggle to eat breakfast. I don't like working out with something in my stomach. It's just how I am.

But yeah, those lightheaded moments do come, though. Like, how many hours for a game are you eating with that in mind? Um... We play at 7.30. I eat at, like, noon, right after shoot-around. Okay. And I don't eat again after that. Okay. I'll get maybe an iced coffee or something before, on the way to the gym or something.

Okay. Yeah, I got to eat a little something. No, I'm eating... Game, 7, 7.30. 3.30. At the gym or at home? Pins. Or on the way. Yeah.

Over there, like, fruit and stuff in the locker room, I'll eat that during pregame. Yeah, something light. I wouldn't eat nothing. I think I ate something like energy powder. Yeah. I had some teammates who brought, like, cold pills to the gym before the game. Something with it or just to that. Energy powder. Yeah. I had some teammates who brought like cold pills to the gym before the game.

Something with it or just to pour? The powder. You throw the water on it. Or I didn't ask it. We'd be like, ah! Or I didn't have a few sitting in the locker room. I didn't sit in the ball. Hey, man, go get me some nachos.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, popcorn. Right before the game. I'm going to get these nachos. Hot dogs. Hot dogs. All kinds of shit before the game, especially if I had a long night the night before. I didn't miss my meal time. I didn't have to sleep my nap. I needed an extra hour nap. I didn't

wake up. When I get to the gym, I'm hungry. I need some bullshit in my system. Hot dog, nachos. That's crazy. Hot dog, nachos, that's it. I would throw up everywhere. Nachos before the game. Which city arena had the best concessions? Were nachos all pretty consistently the same every city? It was things in different places. Like when we went to Cleveland, you couldn't wait to get the wings. Despite with the wings in Cleveland, like some of the best wings, you can

sit like that in certain places. Like when teams would come to LA or teams from the West, like all the East Coast teams, other places, because they ain't got In-N-Out. People want to get In-N-Out, they send a ball boy to In-N-Out and get fucking 200 hamburgers, shit like that, like, because you can't get it. You know what I'm saying? It's stuff like that. Or you'll send somebody like to Roscoe's and get this and you'll come back, they got boxes of shit, you know what I'm saying? It's stuff like that. But the rental food... All the trash. Yeah, I was sending ball boys into like five-star restaurants. I need you to go... This is a shit, you know what I'm saying? Stuff like that. Okay. But arena food. All the trash.

Yeah, I was sending ball boys into like five-star restaurants. I need you to go to. Really? I'm going to the media lounge. Oh, I used to be free. Oh, Connecticut has the best media lounge. After the game, after the game,

we get on the plane, everybody else eating the catered plane food. I got Morton's, real Cajun ribeye, I done sent the Flemings or ocean prime Place buddy, cuz you said the ball boy two places. Oh liquor store Can even door does Do it all now. Oh, they could do that. We had door to that door dash out now too. Yeah, they can do it all now. Oh, they couldn't allow us to do that shit.

If we had door dash. If we had door dash. Listen, man. What? Door dash? Order all kind of shit. I'm just wondering, I'm thinking on the run and stuff. If we had door dash ordering.

I don't even know how they're going to get an arena on the door dash. We're going to order it then. Somebody in Guild Arena just ordered all this shit. You know what I'm saying? We need ID. Ain't he on the floor? Ain't he about to play right now? Is he playing?

Yeah. He's playing. He's playing. He's playing. He's playing. He's playing. He's playing. The door we go somebody in guild really just order all this We need ID on the floor So back design real quick we talked about the the ESPN rankings where does a fully healthy Zion ranks among the top 10 players in the league So fully healthy where does I own right? Don't know does Because he ain't never been fully healthy, so I can't. I can't give you a ranking that's never happened.

I said, don't ask me no more. I haven't given you. Use last year as a sample size, Gil. That 27 and 6. Yeah, use the sample size. All NBA level? Top 15? He missed half the season.

All NBA top 15? No, he's a top 15 player. We're projecting. He's top 15. He's a top 15 player. Yeah, he's a top 15 player. We're projecting. He's a top 15 player. He's a top 15 player. Yeah, he's a top 15 player. Top 10? No. Well, he's going to have to play a full season for that.

Yeah. We're going to have to see. 65 games. He's got to do that. The ceiling is there. He's got to do 27, 7, 7. Yeah. Every night.

Every night. I need you to play 74 games, 75 games this year. But, I mean mean he has he has to tell I Wanted to lose Kenny 30 more can he Kenny I Don't think I don't think he I see I seen I seen like you see high school High school man like you see in high school that first year year Duke, that first part of Duke, that body right there, that body right there is still stronger than anybody who's going to guard you.

Right? Which means you're moving faster and jumping higher. That's a whole, you know what I mean? Like, where you from, it's just, I think he's just a big, how they call him down, he's big boned. But I said it, everybody thought I was bullshitting when I said it. And I said, you know, when it was like, yeah, you know, he's 286. And I'm the only one that was like, why are y'all celebrating it? That's not good.

No, he was always too big. That's a good thing because once he hits the NBA and he's in that machine that machine is not college there's no practicing three hours and he's on his he's moving all time so his metabolism is moving this is like I gained 15 pounds drinking Gatorade playing 42 minutes a game so I'm 42 minutes a game and working out three times and I gained 15 pounds drinking just Gatorade. Like I'm chugging full Gatorades. I had to, I had to water down the Gatorade. I had to drink the G2, throw half of it out, put the water in there. Right. So I had to literally try to figure out how to cut the calories down. Right. That's something that he's going to have to, if you drink soda, take two swigs,

throw the rest away. Boom. Right. It's like the little things that catches up with you. That two swig. Yeah, two swigs, especially if you're trying to fight something. Drinks alone, like, even like, I don't know if he drinks or anything, but like cutting out alcohol, juice, soda, like, I think it's... I don't think it's as hard as everyone thinks. It's consistency. I ain't got no money to do it.

We're mentally strong in a lot of aspects of Us as athletes and we are mentally weak in certain areas where people wouldn't think yeah I'm saying like damn you work your ass off to do this you train three times a week you do this you run seven Miles you do this, but then you can't put the donut down. Yup. Like, what the fuck? Like, you know what I'm saying? Go facts. Like, he sitting there like... Yeah, like, ah! I want it. Like, you know what I'm saying?

Like, it's... It's true. It took me three years to break. It took me three years to break donuts. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? It's shit like that. Like... You was hooked on donuts?

I love it. I just like... I'm 16. I'm probably 30 days without a soda. For the first time? Yeah. 30? Yeah. 30? Yeah. Yeah. You was hooked on donuts? I love a donut. I just like, I'm 16.

I'm probably 30 days without a soda. For the first time? Yeah, for the first time in my life. Wow. I was drinking six. A day? Sodas? Yeah.

Dang. So this started, so I've been breaking my soda habit since January. Right? So six went to five. Five went to four. Then four and a half, then back to four. And to the point where it was just, you know, I need it, then it was like, all right, let me take two swigs, pour it out. One swig, pour it out to the point where, you know, two days, three days, I'm not even thinking about the soda no more. But it was a progression. People don't understand

that. Even with weight loss, your wife knows. I'd go into the gym and I'd be looking around. My first thing was there's one thing I can do every day, God willing,

is wake up. Wake up, make my bed, leave the house to go to the gym, right? I can do that 365 days, right? I can mentally do that. That should be easy. Now, going to the gym and inside and working out, right? You know what I mean? But it's making sure I can do one, and then the next one is just pulling up in the parking lot, right?

If I can pull up in the parking lot six days a week okay like I pull up seven days a week might work out three or two right yeah to eventually to eventually get to the point where I lost 50 when I don't work out watching people I'll be sitting there watching YouTube. I have pulled up to the gym before, looked at the doors, and got back in my car. Like, I go in, I literally go in there and say, man, this is three days.

I said I was going to go into the gym four days. I go in, sign in, step my foot in, go back home. Sometimes you just don't got it. You know what I mean? It's like it's the progression of like, you know what I mean? It's like it's the progression of like, you know what I mean? It's like taking a step.

Like if I'm trying to move to the mountain, right, if I stop, that's no movement as long as I actually take a step. One day I might run five miles to get to the mountain. One day I might take one step. But at least every day I can say I took a step. And that's what he has to do with his progression. Just make sure you're taking a step towards losing weight and getting healthy. And building good habits. Yeah, that's what I said. It's just building the habits.

Pushing away from the table dog. Not to go off topic, but Gil, when we first started working together, I remember we had to fly somewhere and you got to the airport like three hours early and ended up missing the flight. You were in the car just watching. I'm in the car watching my series and everything. Yeah, man. It's a good ass show right here.

Oh, shit. I'm known for this. I'm known for... I get there for so many... I get there early and then it's like too early to get out of the car to sit in the car. So I just sit in the car and then just watch TV just be sitting there and then you know I'm thinking about how we play

How we played I get the red before the plane now they don't want to put my bag on the plane now I don't want to rush downstairs because I don't want to run and you know shit like that man. I'm going back home I'll try this again. I'll try this again tomorrow There's a flight right after this I said I'm gonna try tomorrow. Yeah Have the text call like knobs go Then fucked up my mood. Yeah, absolutely Now this shit the worst shit going are we spoiled? Oh, yeah, it's bored us Like I'm not sitting there like the only time I'm sitting in the airport is

if I'm traveling with my kids, but we get there enough time. If I'm traveling dolo, I get to the airport and I will sit in the car. I look at it like, because I got TSA clearance, all that shit. I look at the time like, oh. I get myself, start I get my enough stuff if I'm fine eight I give myself enough time to give me something to eat and go walk on the plane I'm not sitting there fucking airport brother. It's fucked up now You got to get on the plane early because they'd be taking on the overhead compartments. Oh, you know me I come out Don't nobody in first class say nothing, whoop, whoop. Excuse me, y'all need to gate check somebody's bag.

Biggest thing on her, you can't beat me. Aggressive as shit. Wish you would. That's my bag. Put it in your lap. You know what, I don't even need that bag. Yeah, yeah. I just need a new one. The gate-checked bag. Hell yeah.

All right, ladies and gentlemen. No, no, look, look. My wife was a flight attendant. She told me all the tricks. Somebody you ask, don't nobody say nothing? Yeah, this is y'all's headspin. Mm-hmm. Got first dibs. Mm-hmm.

She gave me all the flying tips. Listen, Jack. We can't really get that going on Southwest, but I'm going to try it. Oh, she gave me the... She used to work the flying tips. She said, listen, Jack. We can't really get that going on Southwest, but I'm going to try it. Oh, she gave me the, she was, she used to work for Southwest. She gave me the tricks on flying on Southwest, on how to do it, you got it, you know what I'm saying? You got to get that first class seat.

They got the one first class seat on Southwest. That, you know what I'm saying, the exit row. The exit row, ain't no seat in front of you. Yeah, the one. But if you do pre-boards, you can't get it. No, that's, see, there's the thing. That's the trick. I had to learn, I had to learn how to do it.

But you can't tell them, so you got to get in, you can't get it. No, that's the trick. I had to learn how to do it. But you can't tell them, so you got to get in. You tell the people at the gate, not at the ticket counter, but when you check in at the gate, you tell them, I'm sorry, I didn't think I needed it. Spoke with you. Unless you get one of them angry older black women. No, you got to wait like everybody else.

God damn, I'm sorry. I didn't know this was a sensitive subject for you. The worst is when there be a smaller person in the seat and they just look at you. It's like, you don't need that. You don't need all that space. You don't need that space. I actually do when saying, come on, dog. Come on, dog.

He yo size. No disrespect, he yo size. You're just being free. Like, his feet just like, yay. Swinging. Woo! And see, I didn't want to have to be there, He's your son. You're just being greedy. His feet just like, yay! And see, I didn't want to have to be there because I would have been the asshole to go sit right next to him in the middle of the seat and be like this.

All his fucking space, leaning over here. Legs wide open, sitting on the bench like Adrian Dantley used to sit on the bench. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Boy, listen. And we're going to have that conversation another time, but I've always been fascinated. Like, I watch All-Star games, whatever,

and dudes sitting next to each other, who takes the leg room? Who's the most greedy with the leg room? Oh, boy, Agent Danny was sitting in the middle of, AD, close your goddamn legs, man. You're a coach. You don't need that much space. What the fuck is wrong with you, man?

I'm used to it. Yeah. All right, now we're going to get into our second to last. That's why you're sitting in the last seat. Yeah. Sitting in the last seat. Yeah See me last seat. Yeah Last seat I'm gonna say my seat. I just stand there and look at you Now we got second to last segment time to jump in the hot take time machine.

We got a graph for that yet? Okay. Oh, she dropped the ball. Get your budgets right. Get us our hot take time machine graph. Just bragging about our graphics, really. I ain't got no graph for the new shit. Come on, man.

I suggest that they put a hot tub here for this segment, but they don't want to break the bag for that. So. They got the blow up one you can put air in. Go get right over the kiddie pool. Y'all know I don't wear socks. I got fungi, so I ain't going to do that to you. It's nasty. No, I'm just kidding.

Here's the question of the day. Who is harder to guard? Allen Iverson or Kyrie Irving? Harder to guard, Allen Iverson or Kyrie Irving? Harder to guard? Allen Iverson. By far. Like no? Because we had Brandon Jennings on this very couch yesterday.

He said Kyrie because that 50 was going to look much more disrespectful. No, that's if he's scoring 50. Right? Is he capable of scoring 50 every night like Chuck was? Because Chuck is trying to score 50. That's the difference. Like, I...

The moves is one thing. You know, we get the moves and the move package is cool. But if the move package is getting you about 26, right, and the dude that is trying to score 50,

he's the hardest to guard. Like, the dude is trying to score 50, he's the hardest to guard. Like, the dude is trying to score 50. He plays harder. He's playing at 100 miles an hour faster, quicker. Yeah. Yeah, that's the one. Yeah, I guess you're comparing them both at their best. AI is like.

It's like I said, it's not. Yeah. From like an effort standpoint. Like, we're not going to give Kyrie AI's effort to balance. No. Yeah, I agree. They must have heard us in here talking yesterday, because I get home and a 58 ball piece came across my feed, and I'm just sitting there watching all 58 of them.

The agents are listening. The same thing happened to me. Damn. They on the phone. The FBI is- Yeah, they listening. We talked about it yesterday and I'm watching it yesterday. That 58 ball came, he listened.

Ooh, Lord, Chuck. No, I'm out. AI all day, man. It's... I mean... Listen, it's... Yeah, you geared to stop him and you can't. Like, because he was their only offensive weapon.

And our defenses at the time was geared to slow him down. Because you wasn't going to stop him. It was geared to slow him down, and you was good luck doing it. You got to put a guy like me on him to guard him. And he's torching guys his size. Like, listen, man. Yeah, he get his spot and he want him if he get it going. Yeah, it was- That's what I'm saying, it's easy to look

at the highlights and see all the tricks in the trade but he didn't have a LeBron for you not to focus on him he didn't have KD he didn't have James Harden he don't have a Luka that's with him he had Eric Snow the best player he played with come Larry Hughes at the time rookie year I'm saying but just think about it the office of talent that he had throughout his duration on that team. He played with Derrick Coleman. He had a Stackhouse. Stackhouse.

Stackhouse, Derrick. But we can not. But we can not. Like, it's bad. You know what I'm saying? When they left. But they weren't the caliber of the guys who Kyrie played with. But you think we haven't seen Kyrie tap into that because he's always had someone?

And that was my point yesterday. If you do what Cleveland did to Kyrie, where right before he was getting ready to get off, LeBron came. Yeah. And it made it all about winning. That's what needs to happen with Luka. Like, you need to put a team where it's about winning, where he doesn't try to go on these tangents. But that's probably what... I mean, to score like AI did,

your package has to be minimized, right? You know, like... You have to be able to get quicker buckets versus coming down, shaking. That takes way more energy than just... I'm not going to sit here and do all this with you. I'm going to one you, one two you, one by you, lay up, float you, one dribble.

Think about that Jordan Poole, right? And I said, pump fake, that's an easier shot than boom, fading to the side, shooting. So think about all the energy you can condense, right, if you take half of your package out for those moments. And AI was just, he's coming. Like when he got it, he's coming. He's coming. We all sitting there.

He coming, y'all. And the thing is, he going right. We all know it. We all know it. We all know it. He fucking going right. Good luck stop right. He's going this way. The whole defense is sitting there like this.

And guess what he getting to? Right. All you see is some flip shit coming in. And he was little too. Getting small spaces. Yeah, like you trying to sit there and trap him?

Nah, he getting right through that. Squeeze through that motherfucker. Hit him a little bit. Float you big. Next thing you know, he done shot 24 free throws. So let's just do a little numbers comp here. I want to ask you, what about Kyrie's shooting ability? So for career, Kyrie's 47% from the field, AI's 43%. Kyle's 39% from the three-point line, AI 31%.

Does that not make a difference? No. No. No, because one's getting... The reason that you can't calculate that is because one is playing... One is playing, no one's ever doubling him. One is being doubled his whole career. Right, you know what I mean? So that percentage don't mean shit. one is playing no one's ever doubling him one is being doubled his whole career. Right?

You know what I mean? So that percentage don't mean shit. I just said defense is geared to stop this man. We're like I got Eric Snow.

You think I'm caring about Eric Snow and Aaron McKee over there doing man. No Eric Snow and McKee No no no I'm just saying

that's what it is. I've been in a game playing we had the game playing against the Philadelphia 76 him? I've been in a game plan. We had the game plan against the Philadelphia 76ers. I've been in the locker room where we're going to double off him. We're going to come off him. We're not guarding him.

We're going to stunt him. It's what it is. If Chuck come out, they run two chests. Two chests. God damn it. The whole thing. When he's running, the whole defense is running. You better fucking switch or he going to sweep this bitch and he going to be laying that motherfucker up.

You better move when he move. Yeah. Damn Eric Snow who throw the ball. We going to, he throw it from the top. Better stunt that way. Yeah. If he throw it back to Eric Snow, we get back to him. Yeah.

I love him to death. Just put it like this. Because when we was playing against him, Antoine Jamison was guarding Eric Snow. So he can be in the lane more. You guard Eric Snow so you can put another body in the lane. Gilbert, you chase him. Well, shit.

If I go under, he come back this way. So follow him. When he catch it, just know the whole defense funnel him into the big funnel and start a fun limits chase him over the top fund them into the big hopefully he don't get that but the ball quick enough the one drill pull up before the big get there and good luck doing it so we asked the chat about 1,200 votes deep Who was harder to guard a I or Kyrie? Iverson 50% Kyrie 50% you know the problem is not one of them had to guard Sports Center then then sitting there on the bench like,

man, he done ruined my night. So let's take it a step further. We talked AI or Kyrie. You guys said AI. Who's harder to guard, Allen Iverson or Steph? To be honest, I wouldn't want to guard... I've guarded AI. I don't want to guard Steph. Running around all the damn time.

Because with AI, he had the ball, but if he gave it up... If he gave it up, you... And when he gave it up, you're like... Thank you, Lord. Jesus. Steph, you'd be like, whew! Goddamn. And when he gave it up, you're like, whew! Thank you, Lord, Jesus! Seth, there's no, there's ever no rest, right? He passed it, he's gone. Like, you really, it's like guarding AI and Rip Hamilton at the same time.

Right? And that's, you know, you ain't trying to do that. So I personally don't want to do that. That's a nightmare. Like, his rookie year, he did give me 20-something. And I had to switch switch off. They ain't I ain't going that way to give me the Monte Ellis, dude Let's give the real fast guy. Give me my god. I got the real fast guy God this I don't know. No, you're not stuff an issue Chuck issue threes. Yeah Chuck to shoot threes he had to be hot Yeah, he had to be hot for him to shoot multiple threes in the game. He had to be hot

No, that's what I think about that. Now think about how hard it is, you know, he ain't going left You know, he ain't shooting threes unless he already hit like two of them. So that means you sitting there You still ain't doing a good job. Because he averaging 30 year in, year out. A down year is 28. A down year is 28. And they took a move away from him. They took a move. People don't realize that rookie season where he was,

they took that away from him, made it illegal. He couldn't really cross. So he couldn't cross over. He had to change his move. That's like taking away LeBron. This... His look down there. You can't look at the ball no more before you shoot it.

You're taking away Steph's hezi. Right? Like, you're taking away something that this man was milking. Like, oh, I don't need that. I got the spider dribble. Nah, they both would listen. I don't need that. I got the spider dribble. Ha! They both would listen. It's just a difference. That's what I always said.

If I'm going to get 60, I'd rather get 60 by Kobe versus trying to guard uh... Chuck. Chuck for 60. And I'd rather guard Chuck than guard Steph.

For Steph, 35 or 40. There's no relax. You knew it was a problem when DeAndre Fox said, man, I'm tired. I was like, wait a minute. Right. You're the fastest thing in the league. You're tired?

Shit to do with this. So we asked to chat. Carter the guard, AI or Steph? AI, 25%. Steph, 75%. About right. That's about right. That's about right.

They didn't have the guard Steph either, though. But hey. They got it right. They can see this one. Absolutely. So Lexi, we'll start with you. Who was the hardest player for you to guard in your career? Hardest player? I would say Arike. We'll start with you. Who was the hardest player for you to guard in your career?

Hardest player, I would say Arike Ogumawale. She plays for the Dallas Wings. I did see people were like, she needs to start saying players' whole names. So that's her name. She plays on Dallas. Arike said that? No, just people in the chat.

Or when I look at the comments sometimes, they're like, she just keeps saying their first name. So there's a full name for y'all. They got to do their job for them. They can figure it out. No, but she's being informative. So she giving somebody to go look up. Yeah, no.

If y'all want to see someone who's a scorer, go look her up. She hits on my pickups, too. I got to. Not yet. She's a bucket. She's tough. I be nervous sometimes for her, but I know she's tough. But she's another one.

We know she likes the left side of the court. She likes to step back. We all know that. That's how we defend her. It don't matter. But she'll rat off, like, five, seven, nine. You know when she gets hot? Yeah.

Give her the rock, she's cooking. She be shooting, yeah. And she makes, like, a lot of them energy shots. That, like, just gets her team going crazy. Gets the crowd going. Even when she's in L.A., she'll, like, make a shot. The crowd will be like, damn. Yeah. She hits those types of shots. So, yeah, she's crowd. Even when she in LA, she'll make a shot, the crowd will be like, damn. She hits those types of shots, so yeah, she's tough.

She goes hard. So Gil, who was the hardest player for you to guard in your career? Steve Nash. Why you saying it like that? Because he been saying it, Steve Nash busting his ass? Yeah. Listen, he averaged, what, 16, 17, 18 for his career?

I guarantee you that's triple. That's triple against me. Triple is crazy. Yeah, no, no, no. No, triple. Like, because I forced him to be a scorer, right? Because I'm coming at him the whole time because I know he don't like to play defense.

But I guess he sensed the same thing. He sensed the same thing this way. Shit, he's just like me. It wasn't the fact that it was one-on-one. Like, I guard the ball. Like, it was that pick and roll. Because I didn't want to be hit by them knees and all the big man. So the fact that he played in the pick and roll three or four times is like...

That's hard guarding. I'm going to hit it every time. Pick and roll coming, all right. You a screen magnet? I'm going to dial it every time. Screen magnet? Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I'm hitting every pick. Was he talking to you while he was doing it? Nope. Just like that nasty shit. That's why he got sick. Like all this... You can only do that once. All this football

I hate when I see players doing that. Why are you looking your hands? Hair the ball your mouth. Oh, I hate that like how nasty does that ball get? About the course of again. You guys talk how many different people touch that basketball? So many. Sweat and... But they made them wear masks on the bench. That was the funniest part to me. They passed in the communal. Don't even get me started on that mask shit

during the season. Mask on the bench, no mask shit. That was the hardest person to guard. Don't even get me started about that. I feel like I know who you're going to say. Nah. No matter who I like, Dirk was a good matchup. But me chasing Smalls around. Mm-hmm.

Like, what's up? Yeah, chasing fucking Rip around, shit like that was, that shit's disgusting. That shit, nah was that shit's disgusting that's you know that probably I don't know nobody technically hard I'm just saying no nobody give me fits like that I'm just being honest man there's some dudes who I'm like this nigga fucking good like dirt like no matter what I did at time he gonna get that thing off man and I'm shooting that bitch to the moon, and I'm contesting, and it's nothing but draws. Sasha, I'm like, yo. Nothing I can do.

Nah, it's somebody like Dirk, probably. Give Dirk his credit. Played well. Pretty good player. Yeah. Who you thought I was gonna say? Shaq. I never had to guard him. Yeah.

But I never, we came out of a timeout like, hey, you got a big fella. Me and who? Oh, yeah. You going to put another thing in my jersey with me, so we can go guard him together? Not this two and a quarter. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Play that 225, dog. Like, we're not going to dunk me and the ball together. I think that's the problem.

When people, like, when people talk about, like, match-ups, I don't think they understand, like, yeah, Kobe's guarding me. I'm not guarding him. Like, that's not how that works. Like, you know what I mean? Like, he's the shooting guard works. Like, you know what I mean? Like, it's... Not always. Like, he's the shooting guard. Like, we have a shooting guard.

Our shooting guard don't score, so he's going to... For them to win, he has to stop me. For us to win, my true guard has to stop him. That's how that works. And I'm some...

I'm trying to help a little bit. Yeah. Right. It's not me trying to guard this man. That's... He got to hunt it. I take that back. Kobe. Guarding right. It's not me trying to guard this man. That's he got a honey. I take that back cold Garden cold. You're the guard code. Yes. See that's I said he would have to guard code

And what was so tough about garden Kobe? There was There was a move a B move a C move and a D move He had a counter to the counter to the counter like I shut off one he boom down switch it up boom get back I'm like yo like I'm sitting there's clips out there like me and him I'm sitting on it mm-hmm he go I was doing drag turn I'm on it boy pump fake pump fake pump fake pump fake spin out shoot it with his left. What do you think you do about that? What you do to that? You know what I'm saying?

Like, tap him on his ass, say, man, good shot, dog. Like, it was always that. Like, no, it opened me. So I would say go. Absolutely. They told me the answer, too, but I'm just here to host. But I'll say Cedric Sabalo, summertime. Get to the bucket so easy. Like, it was nothing I could do with him, yeah.

I mean, Cedric was nice. He was nice. Yeah, he was nice. I wanted to say something, you guys had to bust it by Ced, but I'm pretty sure back then he was still- Who? He was still- Buggman? Who, say who? Sabalo, yeah.

Nice, I'm pretty sure he was still active. Yeah, this was like early 2000s. Yeah, he was still an active player. Yeah, like killer. Brian Russell too, another person who doesn't get love. People try to clown for the MJ, but not realizing that they put him on the MJ for a reason. No, the dead ass. Because Brian Russell, that wasn't his matchup.

It was the Moors. Huh? No, it was was my dude. No, no, it was more like that Have a check what is the hornet check hornet? Was one of them my boys yeah, they had be Russ and they had was the number 34 was the Morris Yeah, whatever that was a three that's what I said, yeah, yeah. Chris Morris? No. Yeah, whatever his name was. That was a three. That's what I said. They had two other guys. The Hornet chick didn't have a chance. None of the shooting guards ever had a chance. No, no, no.

We know that. They had to put the threes and... Yeah. Shout out B. Rusto. So let's spin it forward. Just in your guys' opinion, watching the game. We'll start with you, Lexi. Who's the toughest player to guard right now in your eyes WNBA to steal Erica or?

Somebody else could be any position Yeah, I'm sticking with the rekay that's their full name a rekay a kumbu Ali There we go, you know some people might have just came in. A recap, just through the chat. And the people on the telecast be messing up her last name still, which is annoying. That's tough to... You got to practice that. Yeah. That's like when Giannis came in. But it's your job to practice that.

Oh, it is, but that's like when Giannis came in, listen. Giannis came in, it was crazy. That's all about that. You know me, I still get it wrong. That's why you got it wrong. Listen, I be saying Jaylen Brown... I be talking about Jillian Brown saying Jillian green Like I know who I'm talking. Yeah Like Asia and Stewie are up there too, but I don't I don't know ever so

You're looking around the NBA right now, who would you say is the toughest player to go? Tough is the toughest player to guard? Toughest to guard? By yourself? In the game or just one-on-one? In the game. In the game? In the game. Jokic, probably in the game.

Yeah. For him or Kevin Durant. That's why we talked to Trez last week. Say Giannis, Embiid, Joker. He said Joker easy was the toughest to guard just because of all the stuff he could do. Then like a day later, he hit me in the DM, sent me a clip of Joker giving somebody a buck. He's like, see?

See, I told you. Like, what you supposed to do with this? Like for one leg is on the corner Like for guards, yeah, even though he traveled on that move but Yeah, I go with them to just you know just from the looks of it but you know for me as a guard I wouldn't want to guard step or Dame or Kyrie. Nah, I don't want none of those problems. Ever.

Steph. Give me Caruso. That's who I want to guard. Yeah, I'm going to go with Steph, man. Brandon. I ain't seen nothing like it. Yeah. Yeah, he's...

Yeah, on the ball, off the ball. Yeah, that's that off the ball. Because ain't nobody ever did it. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Well, not to that degree, though. Ain't with nobody, but you know what I'm saying. Like, he...

It's only a couple guys. McMood. McMood. McMood, yeah, you had a... He was handicapped by just how the game was played. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You got McMood. I was about to shoot it at that clip and he's about to...

And that four. Yeah, that's about it. I'm saying, but to have that, like that... Ultra, ultra, ultra. I would say McMood is probably the only person who comes to mind that... Pass it, get away away get to another spot Come back. Mm-hmm Yeah, he was ahead of his time 90 50 40 no

He's 90 50 40 pretty sure he was yes I'm oh, I would love to know what he shot from the field. He damn sure shot 40 from three. So Damn showed it's 90 from the line. Because he damn sure shot 40 from three. So. Like he was doing in college? And he damn sure 90 from the line. So. Damn sure. Like you can just chalk that shit up. Yeah, you can chalk that shit up. That shit might not touch the net. So chalk that shit up. And that's when they didn't even have trainers. Yeah. He was doing that shit himself.

I mean, here's the LSU stuff. You go back and just watch clips. I mean, he was doing that shit when he was working out and playing the big three. Mm-hmm. He killed me in a big three 50 Oh, yeah here pass it and didn't move in an angle that I just wasn't expecting. How you get how you get all the way over there? They got the rebound he's right here and then he ended up over there like not chasing him all the way over there man This man invent the big thing? Ain't no way, man. He teleported over there. He had to.

For career, he was 44 from the field, 35 from three, 91 from free throw line. Killer. Now let's move on to our last segment of the day, Mostly Fans, presented by underdog fantasy Download the app promo code Gil match your first deposit up to $500 also use that special ad pick them

By Tuesday before tip-off and early game, right? Hey, so some of y'all picks, you know my way I'm struggling on this football Football stuff I'm beyond a Thursday's eight thirds. It's a game tonight. But who's supposed to get one yard? Who's supposed to get... One point AD. Yeah, see, I'm the type to pit. I get him in. Nope.

He get in there, hurt his ankle. Zero. You don't pick him tonight? No. Huh? No. I was about to say, yeah, who playing tonight? Who got the game tonight?

Is it Jaguars? Oh, that's a good one. tonight who got the game tonight? Oh That's a good one Let's go lots of staff. No, they got good stat guys like you know, like kicker Kurt no Kurt Kurt Travis in TN and Trevor Lawrence stat guys. How about the kicker though? He gonna get I don't know about you gonna get seven You don't get Sam who playing? Who Jaguars playing? Saints in New Orleans. Seven points

for the kicker? That's usually six and a half always. But the worst part when they be in field goal range, but it's like fourth and two and they go for it. Like, bro, kick it. Kick it three points. I would for kick, I would always go over. Six and a half? Yeah, I would always go over. man yeah, I would always go in this day. Yeah, but you could just feel goals at an extra point

Yeah, or if they get in the red zone, they can't score like the fucking sorry. It's Dallas Cowboys Only time you lose a kicker is just going a whole bunch of touchdowns. Yeah, but the kicker is the I read See this is so you got to watch the game. So, you know who fucking teams can't score in the red zone Mm-hmm, I'm saying I kick a lot of field goals Cowboys one of them the fucking kicker. Yeah, I'm saying how come the kicker don't get that much money if he's so important to like Like in in there he's the second highest in in points during the season Oh some of the no some of the all-time leading scores in NFL history or kickers Yeah, kickers

They get one in three points consistently Like now I'm gonna be negotiating fam Are you getting him 120? He scored a touchdown on season No, I got about 120 these points right here. I need about 20 million. Like, it's tricky. I think they're there because they... A lot of Super Bowls have been won on the leg of a kicker. Yeah.

Listen... No, football's tricky, because there's so many positions and players. You only play one side of the ball. Yeah, if you're doing the joint tonight, though, Jaguars are good. They got Christian Kirk because he forced him to ball a lot. Travis Antena, he a hell of a running back.

He get a lot of touchdowns around him. Okay, I'm going to take that one and a half. I knew it was going to be one and a half. Here's my advice for you, Gil. If it's a trash quarterback, take the targets because you don't have to worry about if the dude catches it or not as long as he just throws it in his area. Okay, yeah.

I'll be hitting those shits. I don't care his area. Okay. Yeah, I'll be in no shit It's like I don't care if you catch it Then you get P eyes and shit. It gets really it gets for his ease. Oh, yeah, I'm finna start with Green let me borrow some money there. Yeah, I said I got got my 500 we can use. Say what I'm going to do because I don't want them to know my backup. I still got my 1,000 from my pick. I ain't use it. We can pick together. I got you.

I got you. 50 cents. I took the year better. I took the year better. I can't wait that long. I took the year over. I need to know by the end of the evening if I got some bread coming or if I lost. But first underdog question comes from username BigChef62.

Who's the biggest trash talker y'all played against? Lexi, we'll start with you. Biggest, oh, I don't know. To be honest, I don't get trash talked to a lot because I don't really do much talking on the court. I don't know. Come back to me. Okay. Gil, who's the biggest trash talker that you played

against? Against? Gary Payton. But the biggest trash talker was a teammate. Mark Jackson from Philadelphia. Big Mark. That's all he knew. That's all he knew he's sweet coach Used to do it in the post if he thought she's sweet down here that's for cage

You got it from you got it for mark, you know, right, but he said if you get busted, oh you sweet like come on man. He's a bus I asked Oh, yeah, you played against me. God temple. Oh lord. I seen mark Like he was in a bitch working on his game. Mm-hmm Like he was the only bitch in any 40 and like 13 and gets to Lane and the a-10 Conference USA shootout. Listen, man. He was in that bit like he was working on his, like he was playing token D on it. Yeah. Okay, you finna spin this way?

Okay, I'm gonna let you go. That's the way that shit looked in that moment. He threw up and under him. I was like, this boy. I thought Danny Fortin was a hell of a post player, but I'm watching Danny every day, and I watch Mark. I was like, ooh. ooh, ooh, ooh. Had them both on the same team.

Yeah, I had both of them. That's what I said my first two years. That's who I had. You had Danny and Mark? I had Danny and Mark. Now you see why I was so aggressive. Absolutely, you had to be. Everybody, people, leave me alone.

Yeah. Sit down. Shut up. Shut up. I'm with you. I'm with you. I'm saying. You had Danny Ford's ammo, yeah. I had that.

What? Everybody sit down and shut up. Y'all, I was bullied, man. People talk shit to you, I'm very curious. No. Because I'm being, I wouldn't. Chris Meade. I didn't talk shit.

The thing is, while we're playing, while I'm playing, I don't say nothing. I don't say nothing. I don't say nothing. I don't say nothing. I don't say nothing. I don't say nothing. I don't say nothing. I don't say nothing. I don't say nothing. I don't say nothing. I don't Chris me. I didn't talk all the thing is

While we're playing while I'm playing I don't say nothing. Mm-hmm, but if I'm on the bench, oh, yeah I'm going Like I'm at it like talk you right out your game if you listen to you come over in that corner or Lord knows what I'm going to say to you. But, Chucky Atkins. Had him as a teammate. I forgot. Quack. Chucky was, yeah.

Some of the most classic shit. Listen, dog. Chucky played a lot. George was fucking with him, so he had ample time. He was coming up with him, boy. When did you have Chuck? We was in Denver late So he went from us to you? Probably he was in there with my foot dog

2007 right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, he was yeah. Hey man. Yes. He turned he turned me into like no I have to give him credit he turned me into like a like a Like a star star. Because he used to come in the gym. Like, you know, I'm not practicing today. Oh, so you scared?

To talk shit to you? Yeah, nah. Coach said, you have to guard me from the parking lot. I'm like, come on out today, Chuck. Oh, he going to keep going? He going to go every day, all day, on the plane, off the bus. Like, he just didn't... Check it out.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it. Yo. He gave JR the nickname JR Swish. Yeah. He nicknamed him that. Cooking and practicing. JR Swish. He had it again.

Yep. He's a hype man. Listen. He's a hype man. Ultimate. Yeah, yeah. Ultimate. Had that second unit really thinking they was basketball players.

You got the second unit really thinking they basketball. We the bitch squad. Man, Shaw. Yeah, Chucky. So for it. Mm-hmm. Yeah, Chucky. Played against Sam Cassell.

Sam talk shit. Had him as a coach. Sam talkll. Sam talked shit. Had him as a coach. Sam talked shit. Sam talked shit. Sam talked shit to everybody and anybody. Don't give a fuck. Walk up on you, get dead in your space,

looking up at you, talking shit. Man. All right, next question. Underdog username, lookitsme59. Two-on-two tournament, you have to pick a WNBA player

and an NBA player of all time. Who you got? They said, I got LeBron and Cynthia Cooper. Lexi, we'll go first. Playing NBA Jam. You got LeBron and Coop? No, that's what... Oh, that's what the person said.

I'm merely here to host. I have no opinion. Okay. I'm going to... This is like a for fun answer. I'm gonna go Maya and Steph My more mm-hmm. It's tough That could be fun Lisa Leslie and Michael Jordan Jordan. I'm going to go Cheryl Swoops and Kobe. OK. I might have to give it to you on that one.

Yes. Because he took Coop, so I couldn't go Synth and Coop. I'm going to go Bo Bo and Rebecca Lobo, because I'm an agent of chaos. You said who? Bo Bo, I need a big squad. We beating all that shit up at the rim. Your side is annoying.

And I saw Lobo calling the game yesterday. That's how I did it. You're going to lose. Yeah, you're going to get your ass. Last. You're definitely coming in last. I picked that team to make y'all feel better. No, no, don't make us feel better. Don't make us feel better.

You're going to lose. I got to come. So, last question comes from Underdog Username ALucas478. Do you think Trey Young will finish the season with the Hawks? Yes, yeah Be to be good six was for Harden and then the beat would be good if you're thinking about it. That would be all right. Him and Embiid. That would be all right. Got Maxie. Oh, rescinded.

Well, him and Baby Boy play well together. With DeJounte? Mm-hmm. I mean, it's a small team, but... Yeah. I don't think he'll stay. I'm sure. I'm sure. I sure like his maxi is maxi a one or is he like a pool your pool your pool your pool all right so you need probably what up now you need Ben Simmons back. See how that happens. See how that works.

Damn. Never say never. You know what I'm saying? Nah, Ben ain't never going back. That motherfucker probably don't even go to the road trip in Philly. No, he don't. No, I'm saying. He want to go to the arena.

He didn't care about the fans. No one cared. He don't care about the fans. It was just the organization. It was his teammates that, you know, that kind of really hurt his feelings that they threw him under the bus. Mm-hmm. You know, like...

Understandable. Like y'all be throwing me under the bus. I'm just kidding. Oh, shit. That's all the questions. No videos? Is it? That's all the questions?

That last question wasn't really that good, to be honest with you. No more videos? It's still getting 50. No videos? Yeah, let's go to another. You got time for another question? good. No more videos? They're still getting 50. No more videos? Yeah, let's go to another. You got time for another question? It's Thursday. We're chilling.

Yeah, go fish something out. I like the videos. The videos are good. Apparently, people don't like money. Like $100 for the video? They don't want to show their face because they're scared. You can... But y'all drop it in the link? Like how do y'all...

Yeah, we can go mostlyfansguild at gmail.com. Include your underdog username. For the link that's in the video? Like how do y'all? Yeah, we can go mostlyfansguild at gmail.com Include your underdog username For the link? To send the video? Yeah, and we'll give them $100. Mostlyfansguild at gmail.com

Send the video over. You got to put the link in the thing. Put it throughout the show. Put it throughout the show. We get the clean

program fee, so I don't know if the graphic is up. Yeah, yeah. The bottom. The bottom, yeah. Yeah. The bottom. Alright, so last one comes from JJ Zback. This is an underdog username.

With us getting LeBron vs. KD for the first time in five years, what's a matchup you wish you got to play against more? What was your favorite NBA matchup when you were playing if you wish you got to play more probably one of those West Coast like as much as a I was in the East I didn't really play against him like that probably cold because it was only twice a year yeah for me you know

everybody else was most of those guards that I got the they're all East so it's usually like him TMAC but TMAC wasn't I mean, I'm still pretty early in my career. But I will say one of the more fun matchups that, like, probably challenges me the most is guarding Skylar Diggins. She added that three-point shot to her game. And she's just really good off of, like, the horns, action, ball screens. So it's hard, but, you know, she's, like, off of like the horns action ball screens, so it's hard But you know she's she's like a tough person to guard and I and she usually guards me So that's always like a fun matchup for me

Okay, I do I already got to play against the Bulls Mike Not the Wizards Mike What was it like playing against the Wizards, Mike? It was still Mike, but it wasn't Mike. It wasn't MJ. It was Mike. Mike Footwork. No, it was Footwork Mike. Yes.

Don't get me wrong. No, it was still like the aura of him was there, but it was... I wasn't worried about him going by me. Oh, you had to guard him? Yeah. Oh, yeah, he guarded me, though. A little bit. Yeah. What happened?

Oh, he guarded me on that. He guarded me. Yeah, he was 41. Okay. And that's the real Mike. When people talk about, yeah, that was the, uh, 89 Mike. Like, what's so funny is like, 95, the 95, 96 Mike was like the greatest if you go back and look at like that the young Mike oh my god like that is like that's the one that needs to be

highlighted like this there's one to pull up do with the little shimmy shake that's cool he's playing his white dudes. That's a cool mic. That look cute. One-two, pull-up, fade, pull-up. No, no, no. The one that's scary is the dude I seen coming down the lane holding it, double pumping it. Now that looks like that's hard to guard right there. Jumping outside the paint and going through the air through all your team. Yeah.

Finishing on the other side of like. That's scary shit. You know, like I'm looking at this, looking at the, what is it, 55 in the garden? And I'm looking at like the double nickel. I was like, there's nothing that impressed me in here. There was no highlight. The only highlight was when Pippen dunked on Who was that that in one I wasn't pat it was anyone like that's the coolest That was the coolest player the whole thing and I'm like, mmm, you know, no, man. I'm sorry

I'm not on board right here or not. And then I caught one of them glimpses of like the 80 Goddamn dog This vid with 87 he coming in 89 might yeah one of them glimpses of like the 80. Goddamn, dog. This man was... That 87, 88, 89, Mike. Yeah, yeah. Nah, that's the one. When they having arguments about like who's the greatest, just show that dude.

That Mike didn't have no conscience. That's what I said. Just show that one, because that one right there, I don't care about how many championships this one won. Yeah, but this is the one that actually is physically scary This is the scary one. Mm-hmm the 90s Mike Played good best good basketball great winning basketball

Larry Bird with the boom boom boom boom that that might That's the mic up Like I was looking at his hands are like Jesus Boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom Like if you said okay, that's the one I get now I can see why they named him the best player in the world That is first championship moving the ball who's at the catching the ball and pump faking that motherfucker like this Making you mother could move around. I know this man is Yeah, well that is our show for the day. No good week. We didn't get canceled. So is this Redeemed redeemed team shout out to go tonight graphics for the redeemed to put the laptop down redeemed team it got Kobe and LeBron on there is there a picture with Kobe LeBron and Mike? Who I played against all of them

Good story good. No, I'm just kidding Make sure y'all go watch. I gave them all 40 plus, though. Nice story, right? Break them down on playback. Nice story. You just need to do playbacks of you kicking every dude in the league. And let us pull up sometimes.

But make sure y'all go check out the Gil Rap Battle vs. Super Hot Fire. Again, shout out Super Hot Malik G. Came through here. They was here day one of season two. I was like, damn, is that Super Hot here? But Gil, you did your thing. Thank you. Lacey, we appreciate you as always.

Pulling up. Canyon, we appreciate you as always. Appreciate everybody in the chat who comes and supports the show day in and day out. And thank you to Underdog Fantasy for keeping the lights on. Gil's Arena, we will be back on Monday. Woo!

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