Gil's Arena - Steph Curry Tells Gilbert Arenas He's The BEST PG EVER

Episode Date: August 21, 2023

Steph Curry Tells Gilbert Arenas He's The BEST PG EVER in this EXCLUSIVE Gil's Arena interview with the Golden State Warriors superstar. Steph and Gil break down his storied NBA Career, the future of ...the Warriors with CP3, Steph's pick for the Next Face of the NBA, and he answers the question of whether or not he is the best PG in NBA History. Gil’s Arena premieres every Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GILSARENA and get a $100 first deposit match: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena CHAPTERS: 00:00 Intro 01:27 The Most Likable Asshole In NBA History 03:20 How Steph Improved His Defense 08:12 Curry Brand x Tuff Crowd 10:18 CP3 on The Warriors 13:42 The Chip on Steph’s Shoulder 15:38 How Long Will Steph Play 18:00 Steph’s Secret Sauce 23:00 Steph Picks Who’s Got Next 25:00 Future For The Warriors 27:33 Best PG Ever Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 There's something freeing about putting that ball in your hand just going to hoop. Like, Luka's like the guy obviously that's, like, when you play against him, like, you can feel it. We're the most competitive group, I think, you know, we've proven it over and over again, so we don't need any extra, extra riff on that. I've outkicked my coverage in terms of dreams that I've, you know, imagined in this game, and still feel like I got a lot more to tank. We're the hunter now, not the hunted, and trying to embrace that. Are you the best point guard ever?
Starting point is 00:00:30 Welcome back to Gil's Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy. Whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop. We in here. So we out here on location in Baltimore dot, dot, dot, county, gotta make sure to say the county part. I don't wanna get pressed by any Baltimoreans. But out here for the Curry Skills Showcase presented by Under Armour armor man needs no introduction four-time champ
Starting point is 00:00:49 finals mvp two-time mvp only unanimous winner in the history of the league purveyor of our favorite bourbon gentleman's cut hello we on the cut mr b in the building opportunity and you can check out his new documentary, Underrated on Apple TV. Stephen Curry, what's going on with you, bro? I'm doing fantastic. Appreciate y'all having me, man. Thank you for coming.
Starting point is 00:01:12 You come on our show, you're a big fan of the show. Oh, we appreciate you. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Even though we talking a lot. So you're beloved by Warriors fans. I'm gonna say other fan bases, not so much. You've tormented a lot of us. A lot of us still have post-traumatic stress disorder, which you've done.
Starting point is 00:01:28 But for you, what's it like being the most likable asshole, I'll say, in NBA history? And when you're out there cooking, dude, do you ever feel bad? They have family, Steph. That's a rhetorical question. But they got families. They got significant others, loved ones, people who care about them. Man, no, it's interesting because you've been on the stage for so long, obviously going into, what, 15 years in the league,
Starting point is 00:01:53 and all the amazing experiences that we've had, finals back and forth with Cleveland, Toronto, Boston, West Coast, Western Conference showdowns with all type of fan bases. That's what you want, right? You want to be in those conversations, in those arenas where you play in games that matter and, you know, building up a little equity in terms of other fan bases' minds. But we've been on the other side of it too.
Starting point is 00:02:22 So you get some, you take some, and it's all love at the end of the day. So, yeah, I appreciate the position of being a likable asshole. The most likable I would say. Once you pointed at the ring third quarter against the Celtics. That was a little OD. But at that point, we were all watching like, damn, this man, he literally told y'all there's literally 12 more minutes of basketball left. And this thing is over.
Starting point is 00:02:47 Like, all right, hey, all right, you got it, dog. You can have the cornbread. You got our respect. But let's talk a little bit. Everybody knows you for the offensive exploits, but the defensive side. Early in your career, guys used to hunt you. You know, you're talking about Mr. B here. You found yourself on the wrong side of his 55-point performance as a rookie.
Starting point is 00:03:03 You got spliced in when he dropped me. What? You got spliced in when he dropped me on that same now we out of respect we skip to it but I think you really made a point over these last few seasons an emphasis on the defensive side so just talk a little bit about the steps you taking on our side and how do you improve as a defender in the league so late in your career I love the way you said I used to get hunted like it like it ended. I mean, not as much.
Starting point is 00:03:26 They can try now, but they gotta respect you. But I'm saying, so a lot of it was just understanding the value of just competing. I always had a try factor, like I cared about it. You just get better with reps and understand the little nuances of how to overcome a little bit of the physical difference of what it is in the NBA, because that's a big deal.
Starting point is 00:03:51 You've got to learn a little tricks. I'm not the fastest, strongest, quickest first step type dude, so I have to understand floor spacing and shooting the gaps and reading defenses and being one step ahead to make up the difference. So that came with reps and then you get into the situation where you know look at the lineups that we had out there and big moments of the game you got me, Clay, our first run it was me, Clay, Harrison, Andre, Draymond, you got defenders all over the court they're obviously gonna go with me and try to bring me into every
Starting point is 00:04:23 pick and roll and put me in every action. So embracing the challenge of it, knowing that you're going to get scored on, it's the league, that's what we do professionally, but at a certain point I'm going to get stops and make, you know, make, it's just difficult or as much, as much difficult as I can on whoever I'm going at.
Starting point is 00:04:42 And then, like I said, the care factor, I think, is the biggest thing that turns you into a better defender. Because you have to try, and it's hard. You get tired out there. You get bumped and bruised. And you've got to play a little bit above your size. So just the care factor is the biggest gas in the tank, I guess, in terms of trying to figure it out.
Starting point is 00:05:06 And 15 years in, I'm still trying to figure it out. Yeah, I was telling him when he was coming here, I was like, how do you get better at defense? And I'm like, it's learning new tricks, understanding tricks, understanding behavior of what an offensive player would do. For me, it was, I'm just going to try to score on you. That's the best defense though. It was one of those things I remember, like, you know, with Kobe it was more mind games, right?
Starting point is 00:05:32 So I remember I'm cooking, and he was like, come guard me. Why? Why? So you can put me in the post, beat on my body, and then I'm too tired to try to score. No, no, no, that's what we got the fitness for, right? You know, so like when he said hunting, they don't hunt you anymore,
Starting point is 00:05:50 I'm pretty sure they don't because you started scoring more. And now, you know, the older you got, you starting averaging 30, I'm less likely to wanna pick on you knowing that you have that. Like Ty Lue, who's given me a lot of props over the years because we've had a lot of battles. He makes it known, like I'm trying to bring you in
Starting point is 00:06:10 because I'm trying to tire you out. I'm trying to make you think about anything other than just scoring. So there's, yeah, there's an intention behind it. And you also take it as like respect because of that, because you can score, because they're trying to, you know, play the numbers game on that. Them trying to hunt you is a sign of respect too,
Starting point is 00:06:28 because we know it's in our best interest to try to wear you down or try to distract you. So once you're in those situations enough, you kind of embrace it. I love it. And I ain't no willingness to just go run over there and switch on the Kobe. I got pride, but it's a different.
Starting point is 00:06:47 Let's play smart basketball. Best defense, great offense, never seen a basketball game won with a score of 0-0. So, at the end of the day. But is that why your condition is like apex? Is it because you know that people are going to try to tire you out on when you're on defense? Yeah, just trying to master both. That's a good point. Yeah, because that's the care factor of just trying because you get exposed a little bit when you try to make that transition to becoming a better defender, above
Starting point is 00:07:19 average defender, because it takes a lot of effort and then you have to be on the other side. So that endurance is developed by focusing on both. I mean, we've all been in situations, us three, where you do know where to pick and choose your spots because you're playing 82 games. And if you're trying to play 35-plus a night, it's not like you're picking up 94 feet every possession.
Starting point is 00:07:42 But when it's your turn to make the read, when it's your turn to fight over the screen, or switch and hold somebody up in the post, like you're ready for those moments. And like I said, just don't be a, what's the bull, the matador thing? Like just don't be that. Just don't be that.
Starting point is 00:07:56 Matador defense. As far as I had those days. I've had those days, like, hey man, you got it, man. I gotta last the next like, hey man, you got it, man. I got to last the next four minutes, man, because I can't get another foul. So we're out here for the showcase. We see you with the tough crowd. Curry collab. Talk a little bit about how that happened.
Starting point is 00:08:17 Y'all both came into the league together. Now y'all collaborating on fire gear that I can still get off even in my 40s. That part. I mean, I'll start just knowing Brandon was the first signature athlete that Under Armour signed from a basketball perspective and created the first signature shoe. Was a culture driver in terms of what the signature game was back in the day. And I was with the other brand at the time. Just kind of keeping an antenna on what was going on in the day and I was with other brand at the time and just kind of keeping an antenna on what was going on in the game so when I made the
Starting point is 00:08:49 switch in 2013 I want to become a signature athlete too and you know it's been cool to be on that journey and it's such a full circle moment to you know be able to collab on what he's been doing you know with Tough Crowd and really trying to infiltrate the market with amazing product and gear and storytelling. Like, now he's putting his fingerprint on the Curry brand, which is dope. Like, we got a lot of cool stuff coming. Yeah, I think our relationships, too. Chris Stone, Nick DiPaola, Ryan Drew, you know, all those guys that, you know, I've been knowing forever, too.
Starting point is 00:09:24 So it's definitely a full circle moment. We're actually the first two athletes to actually collab together. That makes sense. You know. Huh? Me and Dame, whatever's with you. No, no, a full collection. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:39 I knew Gil was going to respond like that. I ain't touch clothes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We talking about the full drip. You know, full drip. I love that. You got it. No, but I'm enjoying it, man.
Starting point is 00:09:49 It is a full circle moment. You know, we're dropping in 11-11. It's very, you know, it's a spiritual moment for me. I know for him also. You know, 11-11 means, you know, stand in line, stand in the lane that God has for you. And, you know, it's been working. So it's going to be dope, you know, stand in line, stand in the lane that God has for you. And, you know, it's been working. So it's going to be dope, you know, what they're going to say now.
Starting point is 00:10:11 Count your days, other brands. So let's talk a little bit about the Warriors. Trey went down, ship and pull to the Wizards. You guys got CP3. Now, Gil, when CP3 came to the league, you worked out with him, helped get him right. When you were in college, you went to CP3's camp, worked with each other. Obviously, once y'all got to the league, Twister memes, things like that, you know, the fake laughs with Steve Kerr. But now y'all are teammates.
Starting point is 00:10:35 I mean, we still look at that Twister. I mean, I had to pull it up still just to go back down memory lane. But that's just a part of the game, competitive nature. I'm sure CP3 would feel the same. But now you guys are teammates. So how do you envision that working out, and how do you feel like that CP3 situation is going to impact team chemistry? It's one of those things where you have a guy that just understands
Starting point is 00:10:53 how to play basketball. He has elevated teams that he's been on his entire career. And even at this stage, like what he did in Phoenix when he's been there, I know they didn't accomplish the goal, but they were better because of his leadership and his ability to manage the flow of games. So there's a lot of excitement that for us, if we want to talk about strict X's and O's, he connects a lot of lineups for us in terms
Starting point is 00:11:18 of being able to help some of the young guys figure out what it means to play winning basketball and be in the right spots. He's obviously a great leader in terms of his communication. He's going to get on you. He's going to over-communicate. And we need that in terms of I've already seen him playing pickup with him, him helping JK, just
Starting point is 00:11:38 how to help run the pick and roll, where to be at, giving him confidence, and those type of scenarios. So that'll help us in terms of trying to be more cohesive. When I'm on the floor, when I'm off, me and Klay being able to run off the ball if CP's running the point. We obviously have a lot of questions to answer in terms of who's starting, who's finishing,
Starting point is 00:11:59 and that'll play itself out. But at the end of the day, we all, I think, are motivated to win. I'm sure nobody more than him. And for us to know exactly where we feel like we belong as a team. So there's a lot going for us in that respect to try to put all our energy towards that.
Starting point is 00:12:18 There's going to be a lot of narrative and conversation again around sacrifice and what that looks like when it comes to, you know, there's only five guys on the court at a time. But I think we can all figure that out. So that's going to be our challenge at the end of the day. I mean, his style looks like it helps, you know, Kaminga and Looney a lot. For sure. And it seemed like last year those are the two guys
Starting point is 00:12:42 that really needed to be pumped up, and it seems like what he does great actually will enhance their ability a little bit. Yeah, I think a lot of it, too, because like you said, it's just another guy that's comfortable with the ball or more than comfortable with the ball in his hands. It gives us a different change of pace if the game slows down a little bit and CP's one of the greatest ever in terms of running that pick and roll and you know you know dicing up defenses like that way and if you put spacing around him too so yeah it's I'm looking forward to seeing you know those two guys I mean Kaminga and Moody like take a step up in the sense of
Starting point is 00:13:20 you know just just figuring out, again, what it takes to play winning basketball. They have so much talent. And I'm excited just to see it all kind of connect, because it's time to make that jump. Iggy told us. It made sense early, but the chip on the shoulder. What keeps it there?
Starting point is 00:13:53 I don't know. The way I've explained it is, like, from coming up playing AAU to college, like, I had such a, I would say normal. It was like everything I got in terms of being, you know, accomplishing things to the next level, I had to earn with the work and, you know, kind of do it in silence a little bit because nobody was really worried about me
Starting point is 00:14:18 on the national scale until the 08 run at Davidson. And so all the way up until my sophomore year, like I had to really earn everything because I was a late bloomer physically, like obviously the recruiting thing and the stuff that's in the documentary. But that's all I've seen the games. There's a gratitude that comes with it.
Starting point is 00:14:34 And then, you know, with all the accomplishments in the league, like there's a healthy insecurity that I have of like having to back it up every year. And so that drives me, you know, in off-season workouts and just being confident that I still have a lot more to accomplish out there. And to be honest with you, I just love playing basketball. Like, no matter where it is, that helps, you know, embrace the grind because, you know, we've been doing this for a long time and you realize how many games you played, how many hours you've been in the gym,
Starting point is 00:15:05 how many miles you put on your legs. There's something freeing about putting that ball in your hand, just going to hoop. So I still want to maintain that as much as I can. But that healthy insecurity is real just because I've out-kicked my coverage in terms of dreams that I've imagined in this game, and still feel like I got a lot more in the tank.
Starting point is 00:15:26 So that's where it's at. So talk a little bit about that. 35 years old, entering year 15. I mean, you look at guys like LeBron going to year 21. Do you have a target of where you want to play? You want to get to year 20? I mean, is there a set target or goal you have right now for how long you want to keep playing this game?
Starting point is 00:15:44 It's somewhere in that range, but I think I never imagined myself being the 40 plus dude, like trying to hold on for dear life. Like, but who knows what my body will look like or feel like at that point. So I got three years left on my deal starting, you know, including this year. So at least that and then kind of figure it out from there. I am blessed to know and hope that no matter how many years I do play, that playing for one franchise and being a part of that group of the legends that have accomplished that feat and won at the highest level and all that, I don't ever take that for granted either because you've got the Cobes,
Starting point is 00:16:23 the Magics dirt Tim Duncan like those guys helped establish a culture one did it with a lot of different roster combinations and different parts and you know in turn in their career so like that's that's dope but I already put it too much of a timeline outside of my contract now just knowing that I gave me about 38 and 17 in their career, so that's dope. But I don't really put too much of a time on outside of my contract now, just knowing that'll give me about 38 and 17 years in the game. It's like, sheesh, just give me that.
Starting point is 00:16:53 Just give me that. I ain't skipping to go play golf just yet. Your 0-4, no, 14-15 run, right? I was talking to ex-teammate Prof, and we was just talking about your shooting, right? And I was like, yo, how many shots you think he takes, right? Because I was like, so I said, Prof, you think he a better shooter than me? Prof was like, fuck yeah. And I was like, yeah, I was thinking the same thing, but.
Starting point is 00:17:27 But I shot a lot. I said, man, I shot a lot. How many shot? Like he has to be triple me and that's impossible. Like, do we sleep? Do you like, so I was like, yo, call, call Ritter. I want to know how long he's in that gym. It just didn't make sense. I was like, I know I sit in the gym three times a day.
Starting point is 00:17:43 Right? I, I, I shot. And when I was watching, I was like, I know I sit in the gym three times a day, right? I shot. And when I was watching, I was like, I can't do half the shit he's doing. Like, I'm looking at my shooting percentage like, fuck. This is crazy as hell, bro. Because this is like the stuff you were doing, I just, it didn't look the same. You know what I mean? It didn't look the same, and I shot all the time.
Starting point is 00:18:04 And I'm like. I was like. I was like, could you even count how many shots you've taken in your career? Like I was trying to do that exercise in my head. Like I know it's somewhere like past like 700,000. I don't think it's a million, but it's somewhere like there. And you just realize you put that on paper and like, that's a lot of shots.
Starting point is 00:18:22 I did a summer where I was like, ah, it wasn't even a summer. It was 70 days. I was like, I'm shooting 100,000 shots in 70 days. That's wild. Right? And, nah. Like, I was watching you.
Starting point is 00:18:34 I recorded your, that's a warm-up. Is that like your pre-game warm-up? That was a pre-game warm-up. Not that speed, probably a little less speed, but the amount of shots, yeah. And then offseason workout, that's probably 30, 40 percent of the workout. Yeah, I was telling my son, I was like, yeah, you're in trouble when we get home. He wrote a capital, I am not Curry. But I'm looking at the speed, looking at it, and I'm like, there's just different levels. And like, unless you, and I was telling the kids behind me, I said, unless you see it, unless you see it with your eyes,
Starting point is 00:19:15 you really don't have no idea. So, Brandon's come to my camp last couple years, and that's like one of my favorite parts of the experience is either, like last year, I had them sit down and watch that for 20 minutes. And then this year, I started working out before they came in.
Starting point is 00:19:34 So when they came in, I was kind of full go. And I think that, like you said, matching what they think is work to what the visual of the level that the speed and intensity and focus that I do in my workouts, I had to learn that too. Like when I was coming out of college, I thought I was working hard until I went and worked out with Edon Ravine and I was like, oh, this is,
Starting point is 00:19:57 oh, this is the pace and you know, how tired I am after this workout. And so that, that progression, you have to be open to it. You got to expose yourself and be vulnerable. Like, all right, I'm here. I need to get here. And how do I connect that? So when I do those workouts,
Starting point is 00:20:12 like I know it's influencing a little bit to teach, you know, the next generation on the level that they need to be at. And just patience too. Like just, you got to work up to it, but that's where you need to be. Yeah. Everyone wants to be Steph, but you got to work up to it but um that's where you need to be yeah everyone wants to be Steph but you got to see what he works out like I can't wait I can't wait to get home
Starting point is 00:20:30 yeah film study yeah so seeing your schedule right you know I've been around you for a couple times now like seeing your schedule seeing your crew um you know I'm just man I just got to tap my head off to like everything that you do. Like, I don't know when you sleep. Like I couldn't, I can't tell you like when you sleep. I think when we landed yesterday, you went and worked out. Like, you know, you went in and talked to like, yeah, like how do you keep that balance with family, with the golf, with ball? Like where do you, like how do you keep that balance and what keeps you going? The theme of thriving chaos is kind of the life mantra
Starting point is 00:21:11 because there's ebbs and flows to what that balance looks like, you know, at different parts of the off season, obviously in season is totally different with our schedule and practice and the grind and travel and all that. And even like three years ago, thinking about what off season looked like versus now.
Starting point is 00:21:27 So you just have to make sure for me, to your point, your first thing you said is my team, right? Like the people around you being able to be on that journey with you, learn the things that, you know, allow us to be productive, allow me to have the focus to be able to show up in the rooms I need to with the right kind of mentality, the right energy, still make sure I'm taking care of the main thing,
Starting point is 00:21:51 which is obviously hooping and preparing yourself for the next season. But it's a learned skill, right, like with everything that you do. And so as long as you're continuing to take the temperature checks on, like, are you able to present your best self in all of these different areas that are important? And they might look a certain way now, but they're going to look a different way in a month. They're going to look a different way six months from now. You just have to keep reiterating that. For me, that's kind of been the secret sauce.
Starting point is 00:22:20 And then I just try not to make excuses, man. Like, that's the biggest thing. There's times where you're tired and all that. And then I just try not to make excuses, man. Like that's the biggest thing there's, there's times where you're tired and all that, but, you know, I can figure out where I can get rest and all that type of stuff. But at the end of the day, like, look what we're all doing. Like we're doing things we love to do.
Starting point is 00:22:35 The way that y'all said, when we sat down here and y'all like had that giddy energy, it's like for real, that's how I feel in most, pretty much everything that I do. So if I can identify those too, it makes it a little easier to push through, you know, the craziness of it all. So, Henry, you're 15.
Starting point is 00:22:55 You've seen a lot of these now young guys, up-and-coming guys. Who do you feel like is the guy that's going to carry the torch and have an influence? Maybe not like you, obviously, with the shooting and all that, but have an influence on the game at a level like yourself? I mean, it's a good question. Like there's a lot of- Or to say like, who's his favorite young guy?
Starting point is 00:23:14 Yeah, it's just- Who's going to be that guy that's going to take this league into the next- The hard part of answering that question now is, I didn't realize how young some of these dudes really are. Like you forget because I'm 35 going into my 15th year. Like you got that crop of guys like the Lucas, Jason Tatum, and he's on the younger side of that. But they're still like in their mid to early to mid 20s.
Starting point is 00:23:40 Like and still established. They've accomplished a lot of stuff, but but the runway is still in front of them. So if you look at, like, that crop of guys, I think they've kind of defined themselves as, you know, the ones that are going to be on the stage every playoff run trying to, you know, win the championship and chasing MVPs and All-Stars and all NBA teams and all that. Luka's like the guy, obviously, that's
Starting point is 00:24:06 right on the precipice of accomplishing all those accolades and just what he's about as a player. And that threshold of how do you just crack through, I hope it's not now. But when you play against him, you can feel it. And so, yeah. I mean, you go through the roster. Even like Trey Young, a dude who's been in the conference finals already in his career. They're trying to figure out the right combination around him to complement what he brings on the team
Starting point is 00:24:40 in terms of his leadership and his ability to push the envelope in terms of winning games. So there's a lot of young talent, man. The league is in good hands in that respect. But like I said, I just hope it's not too soon. Because we still got a lot to do. So when you look at your team, you got three years left in your deal. Draymond just re-upped.
Starting point is 00:25:01 Yeah. Klay's going to be a free agent next offseason if they can't work something out when you just look at that Warriors big three crew that unit how much more time do you guys think you have left and do you think you have at least one more title run left in you yeah we for sure and hopefully that's this year I mean the nature of the NBA the business of it you know how things change really quickly and the fact that we've been able to keep at least us three together. Obviously, Andre, for the bulk of that run besides two years, that's unprecedented in terms of just three core guys trying to keep proving people wrong
Starting point is 00:25:42 that we still have where to take. So we're in that season again. We're the hunter now, not the hunted, and trying to embrace that energy. Like you said, Draymond was big to bring him back and lock him up for the next three years. Hopefully we can do the same with Clay when the time comes. But, yeah, this year is the run.
Starting point is 00:26:05 And then you reassess at the end of the year to figure out what's going to keep us in that conversation. Because I think the biggest thing is the notion that you always want to be the team that everybody's going to pick. That's a good spot to be in. But if you're in that six to eight, in a group of six to eight teams that legitimately has a shot
Starting point is 00:26:24 in terms of the experience, the cohesiveness, the sense of identity of how you play the game. If you're in that conversation, hope for health, hope for people to continue to play at the level that they need to, and you get to the playoffs and then it's just roll the dice, see what happens. And that's all we want is just a chance, and I feel like we got it this year. So Ant said he want y'all to smoke
Starting point is 00:26:49 and to turn Curry Camp out 2018. He did, he did. But he said he wants the Warriors smoking the playoffs. Is he barking up- Is that what he said, because of Draymond? Is he barking up the wrong tree though? Is that what he said? I love that though.
Starting point is 00:27:01 I love that we got some real estate in the off season in terms of people thinking about us. But yeah, I mean, we've handled that though. I love that we got some real estate in the offseason in terms of people thinking about us. But yeah, I mean, we've handled that question plenty of times in terms of whatever the motivation is, whatever energy you're coming with. But, you know, that's why we're the most competitive group, I think, you know, because we've proven it over and over again. So we don't need any extra riff on that. And the last thing I got. I got the last one. All right, we don't need any extra riff on that. And the last thing I got. I got the last one.
Starting point is 00:27:27 All right, we're gonna give some gentlemen's cut. Love, Gil. That's it. That's it. We'll talk about it. Are you the best point guard ever? Yes. I have, yes.
Starting point is 00:27:40 It's me and Magic, that's the conversation. Yeah, yeah. That's the truth. Like it just. It's just Johnson. We're not like conversation? Yeah. Yeah, it's true. Like it's just. You know, because as we can look at stats all day, right? We can look at stats and try to judge. I wasn't around with Magic. Me either.
Starting point is 00:27:59 I know, I know, right? I have so much respect. I know there's not a lot of 6'9 point guard. No one's trying to, I'm thinking about the 90s growing up. There was nobody trying to be a 6'9 point guard, right? I mean, it just – but I can witness and watch every kid trying to be Curry. You know what I mean? So it's like the influence that you really have on a game from the position as a player.
Starting point is 00:28:23 I look at the stats and say, okay, Magic and Curry. When I look at the kids and I watch AAU, it's like, nah. Yeah. I mean, obviously I have to answer it that way, but I really feel like, to your point, like Magic's resume is ridiculous. Like, all right, so the fact that we're even having that conversation, that's a place I never thought I'd be in. But the fact that, to your point of like how you graded and the whole conversation, that's why we having that conversation is a that's a it's a place I never thought I'd be in but the fact that to your point of like how you grade it in
Starting point is 00:28:47 the whole conversation that's why we have the conversations because it's fun and it's as you know measuring errors against each other and I love that's what basketball sports is all about it's why people watch that's why people get you know and heated debates about it I love it so you put me on my own team yeah I'm a rep myself for sure but magic. But Magic, that's a lofty resume to shoot for, right? So I'm still going. Let's see what happens. Come on.
Starting point is 00:29:15 I mean, it's point forward. I mean, you know what I mean? Like, I'm just saying, you know what I mean? It's point, I mean, you know how you be cheating? Point forward over there. We got the point guard right here. I mean? It's point, I mean, you know how you be cheating? It's point forward over there. We got the point guard right here. I mean, it's good for me. Like, I used to believe in the old school, right?
Starting point is 00:29:32 I remember I made a comment and said, and I don't know if everyone got it. I said, you know, Curry's not top five point guard, but he's a top five guard. You know what I mean? And I said, because, you know, growing up, it was like your type of guard is not a point. So I was like, all right, cool, that's fair, right? Okay, so where we at then, right? Where we at then?
Starting point is 00:30:00 So now when people say, all right, you know, name your five point guards, and I'm like, all right, it's all scoring guards. You know, you all can keep them assists to yourself. I need someone who has all the ammo. So I'm loving the day that it's turned into more of the guards that can do a little bit of everything. You have to now because that's how the game is. Seriously, I'm saying, who's probably the last pure point guard? Who's the last point guard?
Starting point is 00:30:25 It's like Rondo, like, the CP, like, that group. Even Darren Williams was, like, kind of... Kind of hybrid. You have LaMelo, right? He likes to get buckets, too. So it's a hard conversation. Yeah, it is. The game has changed, so, I mean... Seth, we appreciate you, bro. I know. We appreciate you taking time out we appreciate you, bro. I know.
Starting point is 00:30:47 We appreciate you taking time out. Appreciate you, the Under Armour. Also, Gentleman's Cut in stores now. Yes, it is. We were trying to jam you up. We got to run, but we need to get that sponsorship. We was repping you in Vegas. We had Zion pull-ups with the unofficial beverage of Zion Williamson's unprompted pull-ups in Summer League, unofficially.
Starting point is 00:31:02 But we're trying to get that Gentleman's Cut relationship cracking. We got Mr. B as the official sponsor. Mr. B, yeah. He could be like the Dosekis, do it for the hood. pull-ups in Summer League, unofficially. But we're trying to get that gentlemen's cup relationship cracking. We got Mr. B as the official sports person. Mr. B, yeah. He could be like the Dos Equis dude for the hood. Now that it's on the shelves, we might have to up the air. We're going to get it going. We appreciate you taking time and doing this, man. Big Gills Arena coming to you from Baltimore dot, dot, dot county.
Starting point is 00:31:19 Dot, dot, dot county. I think they said they're going to press me. Baltimore in. They said this is not Baltimore. It's Baltimore County. but we out, man. Whoop, whoop. Whoop, whoop. Look, with the honor called for greatness,
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Starting point is 00:31:49 It's yield.

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