Gil's Arena - Tatum's Return & SGA's Record FIRES UP Gil's Arena

Episode Date: March 11, 2026

Jayson Tatum's Return & Shai Gilgeous-Alexander's Record FIRES UP Gil's Arena as the Gil's Arena Crew react to Jayson Tatum shining in his return to the Boston Celtics after tearing his achilles and SGA ending the debate for NBA MVP with a game winner over the Denver Nuggets that tied Wilt Chamberlain's record for most 2- point games in a row. They tip things off by reacting to Shai's masterpieve over the Nuggets and discuss where the OKC Thunder superstar will rank amongst all time great guards with another milestone under his belt. They also discuss how the reigning champion Thunder are shaping up this season and break down the ceiling for Nikola Jokic & The Denver Nuggets as the loss dropped them to 6th in the Western Conference. Next, they react to Jayson Tatum returning to the Boston Celtics this weekend after missing the entire season while recovering from a torn achilles and break down the superstar's mind blowing play just months after suffering a major injury. They discuss how the Celtics should handling integrating their franchise player back into the fold and debate if his return makes Boston the favorites to come out of the Eastern Conference in the NBA Playoffs. Finally, they react to the San Antonio Spurs rolling as Victor Wembanyama & the Spurs are looking like legitimate threats in the West after ripping off 15 wins in their last 16 games before giving their savage takes on the NBA's decision to cancel the Atlanta Hawks' Magic City Night. PLEASE Give Us A LIKE & SUBSCRIBE!!! Today's Gil's Arena Crew : Josiah Johnson, Nick Young, Kenyon Martin, Brandon Jennings & Rashad McCants Gil's Arena premieres every Wednesday & Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. Sign up for Underdog HERE with promo code GIL and play $5 to get $75 in bonus funds or bonus entries https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gi... Use our code for 10% off your next SeatGeek order*: https://seatgeek.onelink.me/RrnK/ARENA10 Sponsored by SeatGeek. *Restrictions apply. Max $20 discount Help protect your family with life insurance through Ethos. Get your instant, free quote at https://ETHOS.com/arena SUBSCRIBE:    / @thearena0   Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos!   / discord   Must be 18+ (19+ in AL, NE; 19+ in CO for some games; 21+ in AZ & MA) and present in a state where Underdog Fantasy operates. Terms apply. Concerned with your play? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit www.ncpgambling.org; NY: Call the 24/7 HOPEline at 1-877-8-HOPENY or Text HOPENY (467369) Show Start 0:00:00 SGA's Historic Night Ends The MVP Race 0:02:28 Can SGA Be An All Time Great Guard 0:33:35 Jokic Battles With Lu Dort 0:43:44 Jayson Tatum Returns To The Celtics 0:51:27 Wemby & The Spurs Are Sizzling 1:26:02 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome back to Gil's virtual arena presented by Underdog. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Whoa, whoa. That's getting a little better. We appreciate y'all bearing with us while we get our new studio ready to go. Should be ready in the very, very near future. But until then, we're going to be remote and keep doing these shows. This is Gil's arena presented by Underdog Woo-Woop.

I'm merely a host, Josiah Johnson. Unfortunately, Gil could not be with us today. But we got the rest of the crew here joined by NBA champion of the world. Swaggy Pete, Nick Young. Represent tough crowd card carrying country club member. We got Mr. B. Brandon Jennings. Dog Bowl champion of the Gills Arena Crew, Congress. Thank you.

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to the dog bowl winner, Mr. B from the Gills Arena crew. We also got the distinguished gentleman from Oak Cliff, former number one pick, Canyon Martin, back in the arena with us. What's up, Kay, Mark? We're having technical difficulties. That's what the hell is up. What's had, man?

You already know. We are going to bear with you while you get your stuff together, but we appreciate you pulling up. And last but not least, a man they call Cemetery Larry NCAA champion of the world, Dr. Rashob McCants, Ph.D. Is that a new book? Same book? Same books, same chapters.

New chapters may be added on this show today. We got a lot to discuss. Here's what's Crackett in Gills Arena today. SGA delivered a historic performance to lift the thunder over the nuggets. Did Shea secure his second straight MVP? Jason Tatum made his return from a torn Achilles after just 10 months. Are the Celtics the favorites in the East right now? And the Spurs are 15 and 1 in their last 16 games.

Are they proving they have what it takes? to be a 16-wing team in the postseason. Before we get into all that, as always, the show is brought to you by Underdog. Underdogs available in most states, including Texas, California, and Florida. New customers get $75 and bonus entries when they play just $5 to get started.

Just use Code Gil when you sign up, and it'll load instantly. Underdog, make picks, win money with Code Gill. And if you can't watch the show live with us on YouTube, we have audio versions available on Apple, Spotify, wherever you get your podcast from. So we're going to start this with the biggest game of the night, historic moment.

for SGA. He was looking to etch his name into the record books Monday night with the Thunder taking on the division rival Nuggets at his crib, needing just one more 20-point game to tie Wilts record with 126 straight games. The game featured the MVP frontrunners going toe to toe for the second time in the past 10 days. Thunder were down three starters with Chet Holmgren, Jalen Williams, and Isaiah Hardenstein, all sideline. Back and forth game that went down to the wire. Thunder led by eight with under two minutes remaining. Yokish came through with back-to-back buckets to cut the deficit to one with 36 seconds left in the game. Then SGA hit, which should have been the game ceiling three with 13 seconds remaining to put

OKC up four. But Yokridge responded with another three as Jalen Williams was whistle for a foul on Jamal Murray, Murray hitting the game tying free throw. It appeared the Thunder Nuggets were headed to their second straight overtime game, but SGA put the team on his back hitting the game winning three in Spencer Jones Grill. Shea finished with 35 points on 14 to 21 shooting, career high 15 assists with no turnovers, nine rebounds, joins LeBron as the only players in NBA history to have a game with 35 15 assists, zero turnovers.

Yokers bawled out as well, 24 triple double this season, 32.14 rebounds 13 to 6, going 12 for 19 from the field. Thunder improved the 3-0 against the Nuggets this season with their six straight win. After the game, both SGA and Yokic reflected on just how special tying the record for the 20-point streak is. being in a conversation with a guy like that is special. It's crazy to think that where I was 10 years ago, I'd be here today. You work hard. You trust the process and you look up and great things can't happen for you.

I don't know. I don't know. Do people know how hard is to do that, you know, to play. Make it 20 point in 10 games, not 120 or whatever. It's special and he's a special player and it's a pleasure of privilege to battle against him. So SGA now has a chance to break the record on Thursday night in the game against the Celtics. So we're going to take a quick look momentarily at the consecutive 20-point game streaks. SGA is just a second player-only guard with the triple-digit 20-point scoring streak in league history. So Shea and Will, both got 126.

Wilt also has 92. I think his streak of 92 and 126 was broken up by him getting ejected in the game or it had been one continuous streak. Oscar Robertson, the next guard, was 79. Michael Jordan has 72 and Cameron Rand also has 72. So last time, Shea didn't finish a regular season game with at least 20 points. It dates back to October 30th, 2024, when you put up 18 points in a home win against the Spurs. Mr. B, we're going to start with you.

How impressive is SGA tying Wilt with? with 126 straight 20-point games. Oh, it's very impressive. The fact that he's a guard. And then the fact that, you know, all these great scorers that came through, like the Michael Jordans, Kobe Bryant, Carmelo-Anthonyes, the Wilts.

And, you know, looking at that list, you know, you got Michael Jordan, Cameron Durant, and that was since, what, the 60s. So, you know, to be able to be on this list and says a lot. says a lot of my consistency. Swaggy, let's move on to you. SGA, 126 straight 20-point games,

tying Wilts record. How impressive is that milestone for the reigning MVP? Oh, man. It just shows the work he put in, not being one of the big names out there, but becoming one of them big names doing the work he put in during the summertime

and believing in itself. And that's tough. It's tough to go out night in and night out to put up them points through double teams, through days where you ain't, you know, the ball ain't going through the hold. You try to figure out other ways to scoring. So it just shows the talent how smart he is as a player and how great he is as a player, for sure. Let's move on to the gentleman from Oak Cliff Canyon. What do you think about SGA, Tyne Wilt's record with 126.

20 point games. No, that's a great feat, man. So to everybody's point, it's the work that he's put in. It's the time that when no one is looking, hours that he's spending in the gym working on his craft, working on his spots, not into working on things that you're not going to do in the game. So, yeah, no, that's hard to do, man.

It's hard to score 10 points in a row in this league, as we know. You know, so for him to do it a hundred and twenty-four consecutive times, scoring 20 or more. That's great. I just want to know what happened when Wilk didn't. Well, sure, what's stop here? Like, besides the ejection, the 92 game, but the 126 game.

Yeah, what stopped? Yeah, we're just sure. What stopped him back then? Because could nobody guard him. He was the biggest thing out there. But my guess is the work, Cady. My guess, he has some issues with the work, as we all. Work, the downfall of many men's.

You know, I'm talking about Star Wars, baby. You know what I'm saying? But yeah, no, but shout out the SGA, man, and the work ethic and him being a consistent, reliable player for his organization, man, his teammates. So shout out the SGA. So we look right now, SGA, 128 straight games.

Obviously, has a chance to break the record Thursday night. I think Kauai is the second longest active streak. He's got 42 right now. We're going to talk about Kauai and the clipper tomorrow. But let's move on to you, Cemetery, Larry. when you look at what SGA's been able to accomplish over the stretch of games, 126 straight 20-point games. How impressive is that feat?

No, I'm not wanting to go with the status quo, you know. As impressive as it seems, I think that his work has definitely been put to the test. He's been able to be consistent with 20-point games. I think he's filed a formula to be able to do that. but my question is in two years he's been able to do 126 straight games. So I think that back in the day, even with Kevin Durant's record, I think if guys were actually privy to these type of records, I think they would continue to be a little bit longer.

I don't think guys was really paying attention to it. I think that they put this into our faces to be able to acknowledge it. because he can actually miss tonight and actually come back and do it again. Yeah. Right? You know what I'm saying? Like it's not one of those records that's out of reach for anybody.

I think that if you're consistently understanding that you need to go get 20 for your team to win, I think that regardless if you're paying attention to it or not, you're going to go out there and break a record. I think that in the back of his mind, he's just got to be consistent with, you know, his team winning. I think that's what he's been doing. I don't think he went out there. and said, I'm going to go break this record.

I think his team needs him to be this consistent, averaging more than 20 a game every single night. And that's a testament to itself, not just the record. It's just his understanding of what his team needs of him. And I think that if other players play like that, they could be going for that same record because they know that their team needs them just as much. So congratulations on the record.

But it's not as impressive. to me simply because I know that there are other guys other than himself that can go chase that, just being consistent. But for him, that's why he's the MVP because he goes out there and he knows what he means to his team. So without the praise or the criticism, I just want him to continue doing what he do. And this is obviously. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. It's impressive.

So you mean to tell him, hold on, hold on. So you mean to tell me that the other guys that scored 20 points, consistently that average 20, they don't know that their team need them to average 20 to win? Is that what you're saying? No, that's not what I'm saying? So what are you saying? Exactly what you said, but please read what I said at all. That is what you said.

No, it's not. You didn't not repeat what I just said. You just made your own shit up. No, you said if other guys knew that their team needed them as much to score 20 as he did, then they would do it. That's what you said. So it's just as important to them to score 20. They team need them to score 20 in order to win.

So if they were consistent with scoring over 20 points a game, they would not go under 20. So you think they do it on purpose? No, I'm saying if they were cognitive of it, that my team needs me to score 20 points, they would score 20. So you don't think they tried? You don't think guys go out there trying to get their efforts every night?

No. No, no, no, no, whatever. I don't. If you average 20, if you average 20, I'm sure they're trying to get 25 a day. Hold on. Yeah, yeah. This is how, this is why y'all got Gilled not on the show, because y'all all said your piece, I say my piece, and y'all got pushed back against my piece.

I was trying to get some clarification because of what you said. Yeah. So you said those things. So I'm just, I need clarification on what you said. Well, you've got clarification. We just said the same thing over again. We just reiterated what I said. No.

I'm not changing what I said. I didn't ask you to change what you said. We need a clarification because you said it wasn't important to them guys. No, I didn't say it wasn't important. I said that they would do it more. The guys that average 20, if they knew that their team needed them to average 20 to win, they wouldn't do it.

That's what you said. They would do it more off. They would score at 20 or more every night. So how do they average 20 then, Michelle? We just went over the averages. So how do they average 20? They could score 40 one night. They could score 10 one night.

But they average 20, though. But they average 20, though, right? But you could, Victor Winbiana, average 25 points a game. He had 10 or less in seven games. And he averages his average. 25. So that's his average. So.

Right. If he would privy to, stand to himself, I need to score 20 a game every single night, he would do that. 20 points. He would never go under 10. So why does he average 25? So why does he average 20? Why does he average 25? If Kevin Durant

was privy to this record, he would have never went under 20 a game. So he never scored less than 20 points. So what's his career average? You don't think KD knew that? Hold on. What's his career average? I don't think KD do that because he would have broke the record. No, no, knew that. You don't think he...

I don't think he knew that because he would have broke the record. But there's so many other variables. And try to play his game every night. What is his career average? What is, said y'all about Kevin Durant up. What is Kevin Durant's career average of points? 26.

I think some are 27. So you don't think that he thinks that his team needs his 26 tonight? It's not about what I think. That's what you said. That's what you say. That's what you say. Can he do it? Katie average is 27.

point two points per game for his career. If he was privy to this record and said, man, I'm going to make sure I don't go under 19, he could break the record. So guys don't have off-shoot nights, Michelle? Yeah. Yes, they have off-shoot nights, obviously. Okay, cool, all right.

How many guys get to shoot 30 times a guy? Okay, cool. All of them guys, we just named. Exactly. But we need it. He never heard this record until this year, right? So they shoot 30 times again.

If we never heard about this record till this year? So if they shoot 30 times the game. LeBron. We've talked about us here a 20-point game streak, but obviously once it became a more tangible, realistic

option for him to do it. So, which was in the last two years, right? In the last two years, this has become a thing. So, but, Rashah, so you say the guys shoot 30 times a night, right?

You just said they shoot 30 times a night. Why do they shoot 30 times a night? You just, no, that ain't what you said. So you said the guys that shoot 30 times a night. That's what you said. Quit switching your words. Nobody shoots 30 times a night.

You just said it, Rashide. No, I did. I said if guys shoot 30 times a night. If you have the ability to shoot 30 times a night. So why do they? Because they're the man of their team. And if they're the man of their team, you don't think that they think they need to score 20 a night?

bro if they scored 20 at night they would have the record no they were not rashad so why did he have the record and nobody else have the record why did nobody else have the record somebody else has gotten it richard huh that's impressive yes but there's so many variables guys getting hurt we talked about ejections two years

the guy can literally focus on scoring 20 points a game every game if he's Jane and Brunson can do it Mm-hmm. Okay. You don't think they try to score 20 points a night. No, I don't think they're trying to break a record of scoring 20 points a game every game. No, I'm saying, just in general, you don't think guys are trying to get over 20 every night. Yeah, like, they're trying to win games, bro. And why is that?

If I, if I'm averaging over 20, I'm trying to get over 20 a night. That's you. Like what? That's you, right? Everybody, though. I think that's every score. I think that anybody who averages over 20, they're trying to get over 20 a night. If you're, if you stuck at 18 and your team up 20, are you trying to stay in the game to get 20?

Yes, I'm trying to get my average still. All right. So that speaks about, that speaks on your shit. That's on you. A lot of other players are like, it's cool. Okay. All I know is a score wants to put the ball in the room. So they're trying to try to get his numbers.

He don't try to get his numbers. For sure. He won't try to get their numbers. I don't care who they are. They're trying to get their numbers. Now, now we move. moving to the nut. The guys are trying to get their nothing.

Everybody average 20. We're talking about 20. If you average 20, if you average over 20, you're trying to get 20. You're trying to get your 20. Hey, hey, all right. Go ahead, man. Let's all sit together, but let's take a look at this comparatively. SGA's 126 game streak versus Wilkes.

So SGA during his streak, average 33 points a game. Wilk during history, average 49 points per game. But Will was playing, Will was playing over 48 minutes per game during history. playing 33 minutes in his. 49? Average 49 playing 48 minutes per game. For 126 consecutive games. In Chucks with the work.

49. Civil rights movement. All the things going on during that time. Yeah, Nick. That's how fake is here. They do. And to my point, why did it stop at 126 games? He averaged in 49.

Right? He ain't got it. Like, you ain't, like, dis-am- What did he do to- He didn't have it that night? What did he have it that night? What if he wasn't paying attention to? What did you do? What did you do to score 18 is what I want to know? Like, how did you miss that many shots?

Yeah, like, I have a 45. How do you miss that many shots go 18 and you've been averaging 49? Like, that shit crazy. Did y'all just say, can't you have an off-night? Yeah, that's what we just said. And you said, no, if he was paying attention to it. it. They don't mind if he's parent-att

to not. So if I said, no, you can't have a off-night. Why didn't he have an off-night if you're Willed Chamberl and you're the biggest guy out there. You obviously don't care about the fucking record. Because it's not a record.

You obviously don't care about the fucking record. You don't know nothing about it. Because they're going out and just hooping, bro. They're trying to get their numbers. Obviously, they're put up and saying the whole time. You don't care

about a fucking record. They ain't. They ain't what you see it. Will try. So, Will, so, Will, Will had a streak... After the 92. Yeah, he had a streak of 92 straight.

Oh, wait. Or that 126. 92. 92 straight, you said. Yeah, so it was 126 came from 61 to 63. That 92 came from 63 to 64. So I think the 126 was broken up by an ejection. And then he got the 92 after that.

Oh, okay, okay. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. But the ejection, okay. No, you're good. That's not, you know, you good. I just wanted to because, yeah, if the ejection was the 126, then that explains it.

You know what I? Yeah. Yeah. That answer my question. That answered my question. Yeah, and it just stopped everything with somebody about to talk about. But let's go back to that game last night.

Game of the night. Shout out to Peacock. One of my favorite streaming services. FGA came through with one of his best performance of the season when his team needed it. I've been back-to-back three to steal the win. He was asked about his mindset in the moments before hitting the game winner

and had this response. I had no good I was going to do. I have answers to the test. I got to see the question first. So once I see, once I see he was on my left and I was going right, I think it was Christian Brown. I was in the gap. So I knew I probably was like, if I drove to shoot a midi,

it was probably going to be a contestant with two guys. So I tried to separate from the three and get a good comfortable shot. And we went down. So looking at that game, obviously, one game doesn't make or break the MVP race. But these two teams played twice in the last 10 days. S.E. obviously coming through with the dominant performance, 35 points, career high 15 to,

says zero turnovers, joins LeBron as the only players to have that stat line in a single game. Did SGA cement his second straight MVP with this performance and the Thunders went over the Nuggets? I think so. I think so.

That was a big, as long as he meet the 65 game, Mark, but that was a big moment for him last night. You agree with Mr. B? Sure, man. I don't have the answers to the test until I see the questions, you know. That's what he just told you all,

that step back, winner. I think that that did it. If you want to base it off them to and leave everybody else out, and I think Shea was the guy to beat. He proved, all y'all's, a lot

of people say he only scored, he had 15 assists, no turnovers. Nine rebounds. Didn't have other starters to play with him, other key starters to play with him, besides Lou Dork. Yeah. Still got it

done. That's the big win for him. Now, I just got to finish the versus the season off in the right way. Yeah. We know MVP voters. And if he break the record too with the double digits, whatever, I think that goes into play too. One more 20-point game will set that record. He'll stand alone as the hold of their record. But can you look at this game? Obviously, like I said, one game doesn't make or break the MVP race. There are big milestone games throughout the season, though, this one late in the season like this coming through against the other MVP frontrunner, Nicole Eokos, do you feel like SGA submitted his second straight MVP with this performance?

I don't think he submitted. I definitely think it helped. I definitely think it helped his argument for it to go back to back, big time game. Other guys out, you stepped up in a big time way. Things that we have been asking for of you. from the guys on this panel when we said that we think you need to do more. I think this game was more, 35, 15, no turnover, nine rebounds. That's a huge night at the office.

When the stakes are high, like you said, you're down, a couple starters, a couple of main key pieces. So, yeah, I definitely think it helps his argument for back-to-back MVP. Still have games to play, and we know what Nicola is, K. of on any given night going out and having huge triple doubles, but this game was definitely a step in the right direction for Shea to go back to back. And the last one, in the cemetery, Larry, looking with S.J. has been able to accomplish this season.

Consistency has been his trademark, his staple that he said he's really been focused and working on. Do you feel like this performance helped him cement his second straight MVP? Strong case. The wrong case, the moments are the moments for me. There's plenty of basketball to be played. There's plenty of performances to be judged. So he continues at this trajectory.

You can definitely go back to back. But I think Anthony Edwards, Wemby and Jalen Brown, as consistent as they're playing and bringing their teams to the forefront is going to be a race to the end. But, you know, popular opinion always wins. when it comes to all of that stuff. So they're going to keep the guys in front who are in front. So SGA scoring down a little bit from last season,

field goal percentage up, shooting 55% from the field. I think join Janice says what the 30 point per game score is shooting over 55%. Yonnas shot over 60. So Thunderstil number one in the West, obviously not the same record as last year, won't have as many wins as they had last season, but have dealt with a rash of injuries throughout the season,

including Jaden Williams, obviously, all-MBA, all defense last season. You feel like that helps SGA's case if he can hit that game minimum. I think he can miss like six, seven more games and still be eligible. Is that to me or is that to everybody? It was a follow-up for you, but for everybody, too, to jump in. Yeah. It's always a detriment when you lose teammates, you have to pick up the pieces.

But I think his pieces have been consistent around the board as far as what he does with or without them. So it doesn't really sway the boat. and him and Yok is, you know, they're stat stuffers when it comes to playing the offensive side of the game. And there will always be in the race, especially him being stuck at number one in the West. That's always going to be a metric that is going to catapult him up.

So being consistent is his best attribute at this moment. I don't think he can have any bad games when it comes down to it, especially if they still win. So the only people are really on his heels is a Kay Cunningham or Wemby or no, not even a Kaye Cunningham, like a Jalen Brown. I feel like Jaylen's playing top-knots basketball right now. But like I said, if it come down to popular opinion, it's going to be Yokic in SGA. And Yolkich is a six right now. So I don't even think that's a fair assessment based on just his numbers that he's putting up.

But we're going to base it on team success. Yeah. So, yeah, he might have it locked down. Yolkish missed 16 games. Nuggets went 10 and 6 in that stretch. Obviously, with him back, they've been struggling a little bit. But on-paced average, triple double for second straight year was the only center to do it last year. We'll be the only center to do it two times.

Mr. Ben, when you look at Yokic's case, what does Yokch need to do to try to get back in the mix? Because it seems like everybody's kind of far and away now rolling with SGA as the betting favorite to get it. Just have one of those games. that we know he's capable of having. You know, one of those 50, 50, you know, 17, 15 rebound type nights. Like, he's definitely capable of doing that. So it's just, I mean, time would just tell. Because longest Joe Kitch is healthy and he's out there playing,

and he's capable of having big nights and big numbers. So that's all. And win. Got to win. Like I said, Nuggets dropped a six with that loss. Thunder 3-0 against Denver this season. How much should the head-to-head have to do with it, Kenyon, when you're looking at this MVP race?

SGA has been prevailed three times against Yokers this season. Or against the Nuggets, excuse me. Yeah, yeah, against the Nuggets. It's the team thing all to me, man, but it's going to weigh some. The head-thead matchup, I'm pretty sure. The voters put that into the equation at some degree. I don't know what percentage they put on it, head-to-head match up.

So, yeah, it might play a factor. But, yeah, it's a team sport, man. But She has definitely done what he's supposed to in those games to lift his team to victory. So, yeah, if they do add it in, it's part of the equation, it is what it is. So why is Joker, like, number two, just because of the triple doubles? Pretty much. Yeah. High efficiency?

Pretty much. I mean, that's hard to do. Why you don't put like Luca or somebody else in there? Because they're doing pretty much almost the same. But they're not, it's not the same. What's different about it? Pretty much and actually, pretty much it's actually averaging the triple double.

It's not pretty much a league and assists. He's leading league and assists as a five-minute. So you're not actually doing nothing. But Luca's leading the league in scoring. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. And 30s. Okay. Yon is leading the league and assistant rebounds this season.

Yeah. Cool. Right, right. So that means he's a great score. So he should get a scoring. So Luca should be three, right? He should. He's not.

Yeah, what is? Like, I think they just like to see this duel for the race for MVP all the time. So his player has nothing to do with it. It calls familiar faces, man. Everybody, you talk about the audience, the audience like familiar faces. If he was averaging 17, the media like who they like and they like to pick who they want to pick based on who's more popular. So that's usually it's a popularity contest about who you think of there. So they play had nothing to do with it?

Everybody's playing. There's a lot of big guys playing well. A lot of big guys playing. A lot of big guys playing. Triple double, triple, triple, triple double. So you seen this before? Big man on? From a big man?

From a big man? I've seen it. When he's playing both sides of the ball. He should be number one. Is he averaging the triple-double? He don't need to average a triple-double. He don't need to. Yes, he do.

He's number one on defense. Is he averaging the triple-double? He's number one on defense. He's number one on defense. He's number one on defense. You seen what? You seen what? Four years in a row, triple-double.

From a center. Changing the game. Now we have a center doing 2511 and five blocks almost. Almost. Almost. Four blocks. We didn't almost. We're not, okay.

We got four pitchers. Okay. Four blocks a game. Okay. We got to be precise. We got a double. This fucking. Yeah.

It's what I mean. Four blocks. Triple double. Four blocks a game. Okay. Triple double. The other guy don't have. A yo.

average it? Yeah, what is... Triple double. Yonk it's... Okay. Triple double. Yon abridge on 28? A triple double. Yonka just averaging, excuse my language. A big triple double.

29, 13, and 10 this season. A big triple double. At the center position, come on. Leading the league and rebounders. Six. Six. Six. Six. Right. Be seen it. It's boring.

Six. Swaggy. Like y'all say, what's doing 30 at night is boring. Like the niggas in 8. place. Let me give me him second winner. Who's in their place? That's crazy. Who's in his place? I can't do it. I can't do that. You have to be precise, Nick.

You got to be precise. I can't do that. Yolk's fifth in the league and scoring, leading in the league and assists, rebounds. I see it both, but I understand what Shay's doing. I respect what he's got going on. I'm not to say he's not the MVP, but I don't understand how they're getting fatigue with Yoka jabbering a triple double at such an efficient rate.

But that's just my perfect. There's no damn fatigue, man. If he was average if he was averaging 17, and four, and they had him in the MVP conversation, then you could give me, you have voters fatigue, I don't know, I can hear you then. But no, it's not the case. The case is you're in six,

and then it doesn't matter about your triple double. Your triple doubles don't mean a fucking thing, but that you're stuck in that line. It don't mean shit. Yep, cool. They just was in six just now, so. They just dropped the six. They just dropped the six, so that you want to use it for a margin.

They didn't drop from one to six. I know that. I know that. Triple double. They didn't go from one to six. He went from triple double to triple double. That's all I know. Let's get back to triple double to triple double.

Let's get back to SGA for just a moment. So SJA been on a legendary run these past four seasons as he's helped turn the thunder from mildew to barbecue. Let's take a look at some of the notable highlights. He's made three straight all NBA first teams. last season became just the fourth player in league history to win a scoring title MVP and finals MVP in the same season. This year is on pace to be the first player since MJ with four straight 30 point per game seasons. Also a four straight season shooting over 50% while doing that. On pace to have the second highest true shooting percentage in the 30 point per game season behind Steph Curry.

And on pace to lead the league in 30 point games for the fourth time, only Wilk and MJ have done it more times. So when you look at SJ and we talked about this, a lot of basketball left to be played in. his career, but this run he's putting together right now. How far is SGA away from being in the discussion amongst the all-time great guards in NBA history? Guards or guards? You just said how far off is he or is he on? Yeah.

How far away is he? You're looking at this run he's on right now. This continues. Should he get another MVP, another finals? What he said? What he said guard? So, you have four straights, Mike. Because they said point guards.

You're making the argument. He's climbing. But guards? He's climbing because you said guard. Yeah, I said Garmin's guard, point guard shooting. I mean, he kind of operates in that combo guard space with his ability to score the way he does. Now we're saying point guard, now we're saying point guard and he does it all again, he's knocking on that door.

You know, he's not going on that top three, top two, top maybe one. It just depends. easy now. He's not knocking. He's not knocking on that door. He's not knocking on that door. MVP, though? MVP, though?

He's not on that number one. He ain't knocking on that. Yo, no, no. If he go three in a row and keep doing what he doing right now. Well, what are you talking about? He only had two right now. He got to get another one. He's got to get to another one.

He got to get to two before he get to three. So let's start with this season here, right? he's making a case for himself to be listed with those guys. I'm saying? Absolutely. But magic is in the lane of it by himself. Then the other point guard is Steph. If Steph is a point guard,

he still got that guy that he still has to surpass with a unanimous league MVP. So back to back MVP's and finals MVP's? Like who's done that ever? No, no, no. Four of them things, four of them things and are unanimous. No, no.

No, no. No. MVP. Finals MVP in a championship in week. It's just one of you. Like back to back. He only has one, Nick. He only has one.

That's why I'm back. The other guy says the other guy has already done. His is already submitted already. So we don't know what's your. If, if that is the case, you can put him on the paper. Yes.

But he's not knocking on that magical, that stuff door. Not yet. So if he gets it He's supposed to So if he does everything he did last year Uh-huh He should

You put him on the paper He's top three You can put him on the paper No top three point guard ever That's tough for me Because I'm Isaiah Thomas guy Y'all y'all forget about Zique dog So let's not do that

But let's not act like Zeec didn't average 25 in his league dog No no that's fine But Zika ain't never went back to back If this kid does back to back what he did last year. He's in the top of it. Okay.

Okay. Back-to-back championships. She got back-to-back championships already. So that's what I'm saying. So it's... But the MVP, though. If he does this, I'm going to put him on the paper. Yes, I'm saying, to your point,

it'll be tough for me to put him over Zee. But I might have to if he do, if he back-to-back and, like, sweep it again. Yeah. Yeah. I can start that conversation to put him above Zeke. But magic and stuff right now, that's tough. And, I'm not.

That's tough. But, okay. But I get you. He's been a... I'm saying, I can dig with you. Let's not let him go again. He's been an Oscar. He's been an Oscar.

He's been an Oscar. He's been an Oscar. He won that one. I need that one. I can see that one. Even though he's a bear cat, I can see him. That's a tough one for me. That's a tough one.

Hey, that's what's what. Hey, that's what's the talking for me. So wait. So wait. That's it. That's a tough one. The Wilt Chamber? Did he break the Will Chamber

record, though? SGA's better than Oscar Robinson? Yeah, that's what we're saying on paper? Oh, shit. Yeah, I can concede. If he does what he's supposed to

this year, I'm not saying what he's done so far, adding what he did, if he does exactly what he did last year, win MVP, finals MVP, Weston Conference, if he does all those things again,

I would put him, yeah, But right now, I'm not saying he's better than Austin. Not today. I'm not saying he's better than Zip today. So. God, I see you over there in deep thought. I think he probably moved into that category after the Boston game.

No, you know what I'm saying? So he's trending in the right direction, absolutely. I think SGA too big for Zee. Pretty right through on that. Azeal, Gabe, that boy fits, man. too consistent. I'm going to just get right to all that. Don't forget, Zink was, he was...

No, for sure. No, no, for sure, for sure, for sure, for sure. Come on now. For sure, for sure, for sure. We're looking at... We're looking at right now, but we're also looking at this trajectory of what he's going on, mean, you've got the 30 points, 50%

for potentially force-rate seasons, only Mike has done that. That's the most impressive thing. The fact that they shoot 55 from the field, Josiah, as a guard, yeah. that's big man shit. Like that's Janice, that's Shaq, that's Nicola, that's Joel Dike, that's what you expect from Biggs, right, to shoot 50 plus from the field and be as consistent as he is.

So, yeah, that's just him knowing his game as well, man. Not selling for a bunch of threes, consistently with the mid-range, getting layups, using team deficiencies to his advantage. So, yeah, now, him shoot 55 from the field is, is, yeah. but also y'all don't think him being in the record books for if he passed wilt that don't mean that means something too though that's a record that's i don't think gonna get broken but what does that have to do with him being better than another point guard though you know y'all just made a bunch y'all just made a bunch of stats and awards the metrics of being better than the next point guard y'all literally just had that conversation for 10 15 minutes metrics and stats being the thing that be makes you better than someone. That's what y'all

been talking about. What conversation are you listening to? Y'all are talking about points per game, awards, MVP, you're talking about all these things that makes him better than other guys. We're talking about facts here. Those are stats, bro. What are you talking about? Those are stats. Those are an MVP is a stat.

It's an accomplishment. It's an award. That's on paper, right? That's already been done, yes or not. I'm I'm listening. I'm actually listening to what y'all saying. So is Magic Johnson done playing? So does that's and is that the metric? What's the metric of making you the greatest of all time point?

Is Magic Johnson done playing? Obviously. So we have his career to look at, right? And so we can critique his career. Yes or no. Yes. You put him at the front. It's Isaiah Thomas done playing.

You put him at the front, right? Is Oscar Robinson done playing? Did you put him at the front? These questions are, the answer those questions are yes. Those guys are done plans. Did you put him at the front of the door? Did I put who?

Magic Johnson. Yes. And why did you put him at the front? Because I felt like it. And he deserves to be that because of his problem. I said nothing else. Because I feel like in his plate and his five championships,

League MVP, all the things. So yes. Yes. I'm not saying nothing else. And consensus has him at number one. So what are your, so what is your point that you're trying to make? With your dumb ass antics. With your dumb ass antics.

What are you trying? Exactly. You're just talking to be talking. No point, man. You just want to go against some shit because you got a fucking voice. You know, man. You'll continue so I can keep listening. I can keep listening.

Because you got a voice, but that's what you do best is listen. I'm listening. Go ahead. Because the words that somebody in your mouth makes no sense at time. So what? But what does the metric? What's the metric? Nick, you just asked the question.

Nick, you just said, you just said, what now? What makes the player better? Don't bring me into y'all. What makes the player better? What was the question? We forgot. Yeah, I forgot. Next question.

Oh, come on, man. So we can spew some more dumb shit. Next question, Joe. I'm enjoying this. I don't know. I've really did. Y'all threw you all. I don't know.

What's going on? Yeah, because he's asking The metric of a point guard being the best point guard. Nick, he wants to go against you, so please answer him, please. So he can have something to go against. Nick, because he don't want to agree with nothing that we're saying, Nick. So give him something, give him something, Nick, that he can argue with you with, please. Give him, because Gil not here today.

He want to argue with somebody? Let Nick argue, can you? Let Nick argue. Don't talk for nix. Talk for itself. I'm trying to help you, I forgot what I haven't said. Hey,

you got to make a point and prove it. I'm asking you to prove your point. How did I get in this? What I said? I don't know. I don't know how you got it. You got substituted in because you know, niggas be wanting to prove the point.

Just prove the point. Substituted then. All right, but let's push this thing forward. Just a tab. We got to talk a little bit. Kauai got 42, 20-point straight games. He's the second longest actor's leader. We're going to talk about the clippers at length tomorrow

and just everything that's going over there. But let's talk about the Yokic, Lou Dortch situation. So in their last meeting February 27th, similar to this one, there was some controversy. Lou Dirk got whistle for his second, fourth quarter, flagrant foul on Yokic after he smacked Jokic after he smacked Jokker and the grill with his left arm while fighting through a screen.

Dork told ESPN's Tim McMahon Just lost in the competition But shook his hand Said, great game And I apologize That that happened Well, with Yolke's saying He didn't feel like Dorts flagrant in this game

Cross the line So, Ken, we'll start with you What do you make of Luke Dork Getting Flagrant Fowls on Yok In back-to-back games? Man, those are not flagrant files, man, too. It's...

They called it as one So, you got to go with it, run, but the one last night. I mean, because he didn't think it was. So, you know what I'm saying? I watch it in real time and obviously the Thunder denouncing crew thought he was flopping. And you look at the replay and he definitely got caught. Yeah, you get hit, but it's not flagrant though, man.

Just because it's reaction to certain things and it's not that. Like certain things that, yeah, you can be like, damn, that was, yeah, that was flagrant. Because trust me, I know. but yeah, I just think certain things are blown out of proportion as being flagrant ones and everything is to go to the monitor, review things,

and because of people's reactions to certain situations. So, yeah, it's, and the reps are watching them too because of the prior game. They got history. So there's going to be an extra eye on it as is. So anything,

of made of anything, they're going to make it out to be a bigger situation than it is. Well, let's shift over to you, Mr. B. You think there's a Ludoort flagrant foul situation with Yogi's big deal, not a big deal, just a part of the game? Everything is part of the game. It's playoff time. It's towards the end of the season. You did something to me.

I'm going to do something to you. That's just what it is. Let's go. This is going to be, it's going to happen if they're being the playoffs again anyway. Let's move on to you. you swaggy. Lou Dort poking the wrong beer

messing with Yolkich, back-to-back, flagrant fouls. They played February 27th played last night. Flagre fouls in the fourth quarter of both those games.

Hey, man. You ain't got to worry about a Joker. You got to worry about his brothers after the game. So that's the only thing, Luke Dirt,

you know, they see each other in the playoffs. You might want to go out, have some dinner in Denver. You got to watch out for them crazy motherfuckers.

So. But what he did? last night. It's a part of the game, I love that you know, they're making it a playoff atmosphere, but

I just know from seeing you know, certain things for the couple days I was there. His brothers are big too, bro. They got into a fight in the crowd when I was there. So you got to watch out for them and you keep messing with him.

Last Man, I leave cemetery, Larry. Lou Dwarfleg, Fowler Files on Yolkes, big deal, not a big deal, what you think? He's pretty consistent doing it, right? Over these past two games, there is a level of consistency with his ability to get flagrant files on Yolkes, yeah. They calling him flagrants, right? I guess you call it a flagrant, right?

Because if it wasn't a big deal, they continue to let Dremont do what he do without problems. So I think, you know, it's just one of them things, right? It means something. I think Lou Dirk has a lot of lean-ins. to be able to take the big guy out of the game and the little guy not matter. So if Lou Dorr's allowed to poke at the bear and get him to react to get him out of the game

and he's one of the most valuable players on that team, it would work to O.K's advantage. So I don't like it. I don't like that he's able to do that and not get flagrants. So, yeah, you shouldn't be able to do things like that and say it's a part of the game. When I react, I'm out of the game

based on you fucking around, tripping me and doing shit to make me react. But they can do it too, though. They want to. But they're not. That's why he got flagrants. Well said. Not one-sided thing, though.

Yeah, I mean, you can't see you, Nick. Nick, we can't see you, brother. Me? I can see it. Yeah, we can see you, brother. I can see him. Okay, there you go. There you go.

So I think consensus, what, not a big deal, part of the game. but just seems like, you know, back-to-back flagrants. First one led to a big melee. Yo, could you appear to a may or may not have swung on somebody in that one, but kept this cool. Josiah, said it wasn't a big deal. Josiah, stop using those words. Can you watch the video?

I went no melee. It was a melee. That niggas look in his eye. Like, he had the look of, yeah, he had the look. I'm going to keep it. That wasn't no melee, man. They didn't know, like. I used the term very loosely.

skiffed fist the cuffs. Everybody grabbing one another. Yeah, everybody grabbing one another. A lot of talking, a lot of, a lot of verbiage being thrown around. Like, ain't no. Those game checks. I'm trying to say those game checks. Maylay, somebody getting hurt.

Maylay somebody getting hurt. Somebody going to bleed. Maybe somebody going to bleed, dog. You said, bleed. God damn. If it's a melee, oh, somebody going to the ground. Somebody going to get stomped. Somebody going to get trump.

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Yeah, I mean, I've been doing it a little bit late. I've been spawning a little bit lately. coming around you going like four hey he's talking partner that's what you need won't you holl at me

bro I can get you ready for this you want to come in the rain you want to come up there yeah I'll sparred with you bro I'll get you ready yeah fight you'll still happen this waggy fight it's still on

yeah he got to fight this week though it's crazy that's my fuck to get his ass with that ain't fighting I'm just letting you know I got a win.

I don't fight losers, man. All right, well, let's keep this thing moving. So after months of rehab and speculation around if and when he would play this season, Jason Tatum made his return to the Celtics Friday night in Boston for their game against the Mavs. Just 298 days after suffering a torn Achilles in Game 4 of the Boston second round playoff matchup against the Knicks last May. So Tatum looked rusty in his first game action. in nearly 10 months, understandably. Missed his first six shots of the game,

including an airball and a missed dunk attempt. Scored his first points of the season, late in the second quarter with a put-back dunk, immediately followed that up with his first three, hitting five straight shots after that oath for six start. He finished that game with 15 points on six or 16 shooting, including three-for-eight from deep, along with 12 rebound, seven dimes,

and a steal in 27 minutes of action. Boston Cruz to an easy win over the lottery rebound Mavs. Tatum and the Celtics, that up with an impressive win over the Cavs Sunday with Tatum dropping his first 20 ball of the season. He also went 6 of 16 in that game, but was 7, or 6 of 7 from the free throw line. Celtics led by as much as 25 in the game. Caves cut the deficit to single digits late in the game, but Tatum hit a big three to put the game out of reach. So afterwards, he shared a photo of that moment on his IG with the caption, I missed you, girl. So in his first two games this

season, Tatum's averaging 18 points, eight rebounds. five assists, 38, 29, 86 splits. Shab, we'll start with you. How has Jason Tatum looked in his first two games back with the Celtics? I see you drawn a full circle moment. Full circle.

Exactly how we planned it, you know, not to be the best guy on the floor, get those little cobwebs out, get the field of the game back, get all of the worry of landing and moving and planting and all of those things. Get that out. There's no need for him to go anywhere else to do that.

Playing against what, the Dallas Mavericks, the first game. They're essentially better than the Wizards. Like you said? You know, playing against guys like Couping Flag going downhill, all these different guys. He got a guard. He moved. He didn't look like he was favoring anything.

He's just trying to get back into the rhythm of it all. and he looked good, man. I think, like I said, 80%, 70% Jason Tatum is better than 100% Hauser. So it's just one of those situations where he's out there, it feels good, he can hit shots,

he can still attack the rim. He's going to be a force when they get down to, like, this game tonight against the Spurs. It's going to be a good game. It's going to be a solid game where now you've got to look at Jason Tatum potentially going off for 20 points.

They didn't have that before, they got that now. So I think it's good for him and it's good for the Celtics. So, Mr. Oh, let's know, Swaggy. Let's start with you. How's Tatum looked in his first two games back since coming back from that Achilles' injury? Oh, man, amazing.

You know, just how I thought he would look. You know, I got my JT box sent the day before the math game. I had the whole outfit on, you know. You don't need to go to the G League and do all that other shit that they were saying, you know. I'm going to play against the wizards. What we're doing? What is we doing? The full, what is this?

A full circle? But now I'm happy for him. I'm happy for me back. You know, the Boston's looking good. He came back against the math to see how he felt. Look good, wasn't limping on one side. You know, just trying to get the field for the game back. And, you know, the next game against a top team.

top of 10 or he put up 20 so it's only going to get better I see from here and more comfortable out there so I'm just glad to see J.T. back out there. Let's shift over to you, Keny Tatum, two games back, play Friday, play Sunday, 27 minutes in each game.

Averaging with 18 and 8. Yeah, shout out to Jason Tatum, man, for putting the time in, believing in the work ethic, believing in the process. And yeah, just going on and believing in the work that he's put in. I was one of those people who said, I think, don't rush it.

If you're not right, then don't play. It's your decision ultimately. He felt he was ready to go. Ten months in, strong enough to go out and compete. I'm pretty sure they monitoring it, monitoring how he feels. So, yeah, shout out to him and his team. Yeah, no, because it's more of a, mental thing at this point.

I think he put the work in physically, but going out and trusting it mentally, I think it's the biggest hurdle. And once he got over that, then he was ready to play. So shout out to Jason Tatum. And, hey, chat, let's everybody, let's congratulate Rashad on his opinion

becoming true. Because all that full circle shit, all that, it all was based on an opinion. y'all. So just let's congratulate Rashad on his, so he can feel like, so he won something today. No, no, no. Let's just put the tombstones in the chat.

That's what we do. Remember that? It was an opinion. It was an opinion. We all gave on the couch on what Josiah asks what we think about Jason Tatum return. We gave an opinion. Swaggy, they fought us tooth in nail, didn't he? So therefore, it was an opinion. He thought that he should wait because it was an injury. We asked Brandon

because he had the injury. So let's everybody, let's say congratulations to Rashad because we all gave an opinion and his opinion became that Jason Tatum made it back. He would be the first. He would be the first of his

kind. You would be the first. The first of what? The first guard to come back the soon as other than Kobe Bryant to do this. Oh, I thought he was the first. The youngest. Oh, I thought he was the first. The youngest. Oh, I thought he was the first to do it. I think Kobe

had less days than him. He had less days than him. He had less days than him. So now, oh, he's the youngest. Oh, I thought he was the first. Now he's the youngest. No, no, now he's the youngest.

So now you're going to switch with, hey, Brandon. A, B. He warned. Let's tell him. Congratulations, B. Him and him and Nick both. You guys' opinion became true

because y'all thought he should come back. Cool. Well, let's, let's shift over to Mr. B, though. Mr. B, last but not least. I never heard that from Ken. You ain't never heard it, man. Thank you, Ken. You know how many of those he owed me, man?

Oh, you shit. Oh, your goddamn thing, man. You know how many of you owe me, they didn't have been so wrong so many times, man. Right, Brandon, it all was an opinion. Yeah. Cool. So, I don't know. Mr. B, only two games, you suffered a similar torn Achilles' injury.

So you are very familiar with, goes into that, the rehab, the work that's going to put in, you know, I think some of us were surprised to see Tatum come back so soon, less than 10 months since suffering the injury. But he's only played two games, so let's put that caveat out there. There's a lot of games left to be played. It remains to be seen how he will fail for the rest of season. But what do you think about Tatum so far in these two games back since returning from that Achilles injury?

I love it. But me and Kenyon, we said that that was between him and God. So, you know, it wasn't even if we were wrong or we didn't say he, he shouldn't play. It was just more of a decision between him and God and, you know, spiritually just coming back from his injury. How do you want to throw God in it?

Man, he don't know God told me the same cause of this. Man, you want to God be honest. He's going to back off. And I don't think I got my information. God, I can't talk about it. This thing comes straight from the survival's strokes. Yeah, that's just between you. Go ahead.

Like I said, like I said, like I said, that's what I said. You can say, God. Absolutely. No, I did. I did. I did. It's still bad. I did.

I didn't talk about God now. God told me the night before. That's why I said it, nigga, God told me. Okay. That sounds good. Anyways. Back to your point,

so, yeah, I'm happy that he's back. You know, he did look good his first two games. He's going to be battle tested these next two games against the Spurs and OKC. You know, I was a little worried because I did have the same injury

and coming back, I did go to the G League, which was fine and I needed it. But with the new tech, technology today. And like Ken said, his team and everybody that he has, I mean, it's different today. So, you know, I just hope that he can just stay healthy. Yeah, so Celtics obviously beat the Cavs, top four team in the east, have the Spurs tonight, number two team in the West.

Follow that up with the number one team in the league, the Oklahoma City Thunder on Thursday. So will these next two games give you a lot more perspective on just where he's at with the injury and what the Celtics can expect to get from for the remainder of the season? Yeah, especially the way the spurs are playing. The spurs are playing at a very high level right now. They have a lot of young guys. So defensively, you know, he's going to have to, you know, it's going to be a very intense playoff game.

And then you got the OKC right after that. So, and, you know, they like to, how they like to play. So it's going to be battle tested. But like I said, it's going to be, it's going to be great for him. Just getting back in the mix and getting back into the mix of playing top teams, too. Most definitely. And shout out Tettam to 27 minutes in both those games. Struggle with the shooting a little bit, to be expected.

Ten-month layoff hasn't played in the NBA game since May getting thrust now during this tail-in stretch run of this season. But despite the rust, Tatham looks solid defensively in this small sample size as well. So we have some numbers. Once again, two games, very small sample size. So in the win over the cast, Tatum spent 75% of his defensive possessions guarding either James Harden, Donovan Mitchell, Jalen Tyson, or Dean Wade held those players to a combined six points on 25% shooting over 38 possessions. Overall, Tatum is holding his opponents to 30% from the field, 0% from 3 since making his return. Two games.

Two games. But it didn't look this good. We would talk about that. It does look good defensive. We were talking about this. So are you guys surprised at all by Tatum solid play defensively so far in these first two games back from his Achilles' injury? The virtual arena, ladies and gentlemen. Crickets.

I mean, I guess. I mean, it's two games. I said that multiple times. But if he went and got his ass busted in those two games, we were talking about him getting his ass. No, no. No. If he got his ass busted in those,

if somebody put a 30 on his head, we were talking about. Joe. Joe. Joe. Oh, my God. Two guys. Hey, Josiah. I can't do that.

No, I can't do that. Joe side. I can't do that. Josiah, this is my opinion, right? For me, there's no expectations, especially the first two games coming back from a major injury, offensively or defensively, in the first two games. So all these numbers, and I'm happy he's back.

I'm happy his mind is together for him to go out and compete, right? He worked through the injury. There's no expectations from me, as defensively or how many points he scores, how many shots he makes. The simple fact that he is out there is a win. Most definitely. So the numbers defensively,

how many possessively played against this guy, that guy, for me, coming back from major injury, and I'm pretty sure Brandon would agree with this as well, right? Yes. Coming back from some major, you don't care how many points somebody scored against you, I mean, the points you score right away, especially the first two games.

Happy, he played well, yes. But there's no expectations coming from me. Because I understand how tough that is mentally to fight back from, just to be out there. So somebody scored 30 and he was on, who cares? It's the second game back from Achilles fucking injury. Like, don't nobody care? That man mentally, the fact that he is out there is a win and a win, both sides of the ball. for him.

So. The only thing we're going to be looking at is seeing if he scored. Come on a lot. Like with the ball in the hoop a couple times. If he would have been out there again, his ass, but you all would have said. No, I don't know y'all too.

Nick, don't put words in his mouth. No, no, man. Have you ever ever made an injury, Nick? Have you came back from something like this? I'm asking, have you? Yeah. If the answer to that is no, Nick, it's trust me,

the mental aspect of it for him. So for me, like I said, for the masses, the rest of people can put emphasis on him first two games, but for me, and I'm pretty sure other people that's had a major injury

of the sort that fought back, but because it don't matter, man, the numbers and all that shit don't matter right away. It does not. A win is to be out there. The win was for him to lace them shoes up and put that game jersey on

and whatever happened after that, that was going to happen. So the points, rebounds, assists, his team was able to get two wins, him come out healthy on the other side of playing 27 minutes

in both games. That's a win. So when does it matter then? I don't know what date it is, Nick, but the first two games, I know it ain't it. I don't know what number that is, Nick, but the first two games,

I know it ain't it. Like, that I do know. I remember me and you both saying Just him being out there with the team at 75% is a win for the team because it's the tail in. If he fits, he fits. If he don't, he's just getting back out there knocking the rust off. Is he 75%?

10 months cool. Like, this is going to be good for him and his mental because he gets to see if he's been doing the right things to get that. So the question was we were talking about the expectations of numbers. So what are you saying? You just want to be taught.

He just wanted to have something to say. But nobody's disagreeing with you guys, though. The thing is we just said that no, you guys disagreed with us to get to this point. Well, we're talking about right now. You want to bring up old shit.

That's your problem. No, no, we didn't. No, first of all, we had an opinion about an injury. And then you guys gave y'all no. He should, okay. So you guys are right. It was your opinion.

It was your opinion, like I said. So. Some of the council thought he should just redshirt this year and wait to get back next season. I started my statement as I said I thought he should wait. I said that today. The conversation we had previously, when you asked us a question about him moving four,

what we think. Three of us said we think he should wait. Two guys said he should come back and play. Cool. Now we're at the place. Now he's come back to play. Now it's a different conversation. You don't need to watch us do this.

Watch us do our day. Yeah, what is the celebration? Watch us do our dance. But what is the celebration? We were right. Watch us do our dance. We was right. It's a half span.

It's a half spin. Okay, now I get past Facebook. Too far and few in between. Too far and few in between when niggas think they want to be right about something. Like, so like I said, Brandon.

It was an opinion. It was an opinion. Why? Why? Everybody mad when we're right. It's okay. That's crazy. Nobody said.

It's crazy. Nobody said. Like, you're trying to bring down my rightness. Like, man. I'm trying to put down my rightness. You wasn't right. Oh, the whole thing is show up today because he's getting tired of me being right. He's like, that's hard.

Now, that's between you and him. That's between you and him. That was actually the Josiah Hyde working their magic. The Josiah Hype. That's between you and him. I gave him between you and him. And they did with the Josiah Hyatt death. Yeah, that's between you and him.

But like I said. You right. You're right. There's no expectation. When you right, you're right, you're right, boy. You're right. You'll be right, Nick. You'll be right.

All this is to say is two games. And I keep saying that. I keep making that point. Yes, some expectations. It's a long season. But Kenyon, obviously, Brandon, both have had major injuries. Those first couple games back, how did you feel? When did you actually start to feel normal and like your regular self just from a

conditioning standpoint, a play standpoint, or does it never get back to that? It gets back. You just don't know when, like, because you're on the minute restrictions. Like, they plan with your minutes. You're not getting consistent minutes. You plan three, four, five minutes at a time. Sometimes you're used to plan eight, nine minutes at a time. So you don't know.

Like, for me, like, five to six minutes stretches. Yeah, like, that's frustrating. That's not your normal activity. So you don't know when it. Whenever they lifted, it might be that day. It might be sooner than that. It might be a month after that. You don't know if every player is different.

Yeah, I think the main thing is when you, first give back, you're just happy to be back out there. Like for, for one, just being able to be happy, you be able to play. Um, and, but I mean, for me, you know, it took me, took me, took me took me more than 10 games because I had to come off the bench. I had to come off like, and you said something different. So it was different for me. Um, so yeah, for me, it took me a little bit of a time. But I was just happy to be back and be able to play basketball. Yeah, because, because each one is different. Like when I came back from my injury after college, right? that was a different injury than a micro fracture surgery.

That was a different mindset. That was a different rehab process. So it's all different, right? Ancles is different than knees. Achilles is different than this. And so it's all different on how your body responds to it and your cardio, right? It's all about, I'm saying, how, what have you done to maintain your cardiovascular? And that's a hurdle in itself.

So it's all different from each guy, man. So one thing I will say about Tatum, I believe Thursday night, before he announced to come back, met with the team staff, just thanked everybody for their support along the way. We saw throughout this season that he was traveling with the Celtics on road trips, still being connected to the team, you know, kind of not doing that rehab alone, still feeling like he was a part of the team

and helping him kind of get back out there. So when you look at that side of it, how about it's a huge part? huge part of it, right? Still be connected. It's not a sight out of mind, right? When you're not around, people don't know what you're doing,

how you're working. A lot of speculation can be had. And that's his testament. He enjoys being around the group, the coaching staff, the guys, the organization is well-ran. So they have a different camaraderie than, than other situations.

For me, my second micro fracture, when I missed the season, played the first two games, and I didn't want to be around. I didn't go around. I just, not playing for one

was dramatic in itself. Head coach situation for two didn't help. Yeah, so, no, it was just, It was a lot of reason that I didn't go around, you know, didn't travel with the team except except certain cities, you know, you're going to, if you're out, you're going to the fun cities. Yeah, I'm sitting out to Minnesota's and the Milwaukee's and those ships.

I'm sitting out of those, but I'm going to L.A., I'm going to Phoenix, going to Miami, going to Toronto, you know what I'm saying? So you're doing all those things because it's for you. It's not for the group, so, but it's different for every guy. Yeah, but it was happy to see Jason Taylor was still doing that. now with it's time to come back, he's still a part of the group. Most definitely. So Tatum's return to the court was faster than most expected.

Some did expect that he would return in this time frame. But although he said himself, he knew he would return at some point this season. So let's take a look at some of the other notable returns from a torn Achilles injury. So you got Kobe Bryant did it 240 days. Dominic Wilkins, like we mentioned, 283 days. Chonsie Billups. 296 days, but Chansy at the tail end of his career at that point, didn't play more than 20 games in the two seasons following that end up retiring after that. Tatum, 298 days. You got Boogie. It was at 357. Mr. B. Brandon Jennings, 339 days from the time suffering that injury to your return on the court. Kevin Durant, 552 days, KD's situation a little bit different with the COVID breaking, all that stuff going on. But Seltz will continue to monitor, managing his injury for the rest of the season. They have 18 games remaining this. season, including two back-to-backs, third toughest strength of schedule amongst the remaining

teams in the league in their schedule. But you also have, when you look at the Pistons now in the midst of a four-game losing streak, so Celtics are now just two and a half games behind Detroit for first place in the east. So when you're looking at just Tatum situation with these 18 games remaining on the schedule, how should the Celtics approach using Tatum for the rest of the regular season and should it be important to them to try to jump into that top spot in the east if they can? I'll be the first to say I was wrong about the Celtics going into the beginning of the year. I counted them all the way out based on roster.

Not necessarily Jalen Brown's ability to lead, but just being able to have the guys around him to do so. He was able to do more with less all the way up to this point where now they can move in the first, where they've been the last two seasons prior. And I think they go back to their original form. With that being said, looking at Detroit, looking at the Knicks. Sixers and other teams in the East. With Jason Tatum, even at 85%, I think that the Celtics have an advantage when it comes down to team morale and understanding of spacing and everything they've done to be top team in the East. So this strength of schedule is just the tip of the iceberg.

They can get past this going into the playoff. They can move into number one. I think now a strong consideration of Jalen Brown's leadership comes into, you know, full circle. You know, he should be definitely be praised as far as holding it down without Jason Tatum and being able to be like, you know, this is something that I was able to do and I was always been able to do as a number one guy for this team, both of them being Superman and Batman, I think it's commendable.

And I definitely did count them out and I was wrong about that because they're definitely moving into the trajectory of being the top team. team in the East. And you talk about Jalen Brown, that leadership, part of that leadership is being able to sacrifice, obviously, with Jason Tatum returning. He was putting up career numbers to this point, having a career year right now. Numbers are obviously gone down slightly in the two games with Tatum back. But just from that side of it, those two together, just a testament.

We talked about it, you know, who's the number one, who's the number two, whatever. But having now both these guys back in action together and Jalen Brown being willing to, not even say willing, but having to sacrifice. for the greater good of the team? I don't even think it matters who's number one. I think the biggest thing is is that, you know, J. LaBron, he's shown that, you know, he can carry a team when Jason Tate was not there. Now that Jason Tatum is back, they can get back to that championship culture that they had altogether.

So as much as everybody want to put them together about who's the number one option, you know, it really doesn't matter at this point. Because now you're in a position where people had you guys at a lot. 11th and now you guys are two, and now you guys are getting a player like Jason Tatum back. I think that the most important thing is just getting him back into the groove and then you guys try to go get that championship. So, Kenyon, Swaggy, for you two, when you look at these 18 remaining games, like I said, you got to monitor Tatum situation. You can't take the victory lap per se off for just two game sample sides with this time left in the season and gearing up for the playoffs postseason, which is obviously more important than the regular season. and how should the selfish approach using Tatum

for the remainder of this regular season? Same word? Smart. Smart. There's no need to pay him over 27 minutes right now. There's no need to pay him in the back-to-backs that they have. And you just monitor how he feels. And it's on him, to be honest with the medical staff,

I'm pretty sure he has up at this point, on how he truly feels. And I think that needs to continue. playing him right now, 35, 37 minutes tonight doesn't make sense. Consistently with the 27 minutes, 27 to no more than 30, I think. I'm pretty sure it was supposed to be around the 25

minute mark that they probably wanted to keep him around. But 25 to 27, I think, would be useful just getting his legs up on them head into the playoffs. So I think just continue the same regimen that they have and just him being honest on how he feels. Yeah, this is a nice amount of games to get him ready for the playoff to get him more comfortable. I feel like you don't try to overdo it.

He's a great player, great score. He could figure it out in a limited time he gets. He can still put up these type of numbers and be effective. Yeah, I think it makes it easier for everybody else, especially for Jaylon Brown. He don't have to do it. too much or shoot the shot team probably it's probably tough it's tough being the number one getting double team and all that now you release some of that pressure and you still got that

same confidence i think boston going to be scary man they're going to be scary in the playoffs that that brings you my next question uh like i mentioned pistons four game losing street right now celtics two and a half games out of the first place does taitam make the celtics the favorites to come out of the east for me yes and I'm not just being biased, but I feel like they got the pedigree. They've been there. They know how to win. And just having a guy that's, what, 6-8 that could pretty much do everything out there.

And they added a nice big to the team that makes a difference from Al Horford last year. I think they're going to be all right. Yeah, yeah. I'm switching my team back to Boston. You know what I'm saying? Back to Boston. Officially back to Boston. You were pondering a move to the Sixers,

have flirted with that for a little bit. Obviously, Meeb, back hurt again. You have Wimby and the Spurs as your Western Conference team. You're going back to Boston, making your return. Making my return, you know, there's a good morale going on. Lucky in the center of the courts. There's a lot of good shit going on over there. You know what I'm saying?

Might as well partake. Might as well partake in the green, you know what I'm saying? You have the green screen behind? I'm trying to figure it out. I figured it out. I said, fuck it. Why not? You know what I'm saying?

So, yeah, they look good. They out there playing together, you know, Joe got their shit going smooth. And, yeah, they could make, they could definitely come out to easy. I mean, I'm looking at Detroit. When I watch them play, they don't have a bona fide number two

that can go do what Kay Cunningham does. So what I've seen teams do the last four games is take him out of the game and force Jalen Dirtin to do more. more than what he's used to. No one else is picking up the pieces, picking up the slack. They don't really have another guy that can get you 20, 25. That puts pressure on Isaiah Stewart to hit threes.

He got to get 15, 16 points that's uncharacteristic for him. I don't see Detroit holding it down that long to the point where they're going to be the Boston or New York in seven. Yeah. You got cooling off on the south or on the pissings a little bit. heating up with the Celtics. With Tatum, again, it remains to be seen. How Tatum's injury reacts to this heavy gameplay

once you shift from regular season to playoff basketball. But moving on to you, can you think Jason Tatum makes the Celtics the favorites to come out of the East? 18 games left. Detroit's struggling right now. Yeah. I don't trust the Knicks.

So, yeah, I think his presence, brings energy to the locker room and to the way guys are going to perform. It helps Joe Missoula and his coaching approach. So, yeah, I would agree that right now the way the guys, other teams are playing around Boston, them being ever go out and be Cleveland already. Yeah, yeah. So I would say, yeah, they are. I would pick them as the after 18 game

yeah they'll be the favorite to come out. Yeah. Can you hear you, Joe? Or you muted, Mo. You knew it, Joe. I would have seen if y'all cared. It would be their third finals since 2022. Obviously, the championship in between there.

Mr. B, you think, like you said, favors have come out? Yeah, man, just, you know, man, it just depends on to see how Jason Tatum just keeps looking, you know, as it keeps going. But I mean, the way Jalen Browns been playing in that whole core, I don't see anything really stopping them really, really, because, you know, they've been there before twice.

So, and, you know, they do have championship experience, and it just comes down to who's healthy. Yeah. So there'll be about Vujavitch for another couple weeks. Yeah, it ain't just about players. Like, so experiences across the board, right? playoffs with players as well, been in those situations. They lost a couple pieces with the championship team, of course.

But coaching staff and having your main two guys there and Derek White and I think that helps still. So, but yeah, no, I mean, it's just been them situations, man, on how to win a playoff series as a coaching staff. Like, what do we need to do as game planning to help us win four games, be the first of four games in these series? And I think they have that. You know, so to the experience, I think it's going to help them moving forward with Jason Taylor being back as well. With him being, if he's going to be on a minute restriction in the playoffs, that just helps.

Having that experience of certain guys, certain days, guys were in foul trouble, certain guys, you just don't know each game is different in the playoffs. So I think them having that experience with having Jason Taylor's, if he's going to be limited, I think helps. All right, for sure. Well, we will monitor the situation in Boston. Let's keep this thing moving. So you know, one thing a lot of people don't like thinking about life insurance.

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All right, so let's come back to the Western Conference. Spurs have been sizzling since the start of Black History Month. San Antonio 15-1 in their last 16 games. And since suffering their only loss in the last 16 games, And since suffering their only loss in this stretch to the Knicks on March 1st, spurs have bounced back with four straight wins, then proceeded to beat the Pistons by 15. Last Thursday to sweep the season series,

Deer Fox had 29 points in the game. Wimby put up 38.16 rebounds, five blocks, and four threes in that win to become the first player in history to put up those numbers in a single game. The following night came through with their biggest comeback win over the Clippers. They were trailing by as much as 25 points in the second half. And the San Antonio followed up that win with a dominant 25 point win over the Rockets at home on Sunday. They had Spurs fans chanting. We own Texas as a slight to their in-state rival.

So start with you, Mr. Me, biggest takeaways from the Spurs dominant play over the past six weeks. They've been battle tested all year. And every time they've been tested, I mean, I think it started when I saw them play against OKC. And when they was putting the OKC in the body bag and booming on them earlier, I knew it was a different team and a different mindset this year. So, I mean, you know, Wimby's healthy, you know, and they have a lot of young guys that can go. This is going to be a scary team, man, and a scary team for years.

So a lot of teams should be very afraid to try to match up against the spurs in the playoffs. A lot of teams in the West this season, you think, should be very afraid to see this currently second. ranked Spurs quad in the postseason. Yep. Yep. This is a more, some more, yeah, for sure. Our Swaggy, let's move on to you.

What are your biggest takeaways from the Spurs' dominant play over the past six weeks, 15 and 1 in that stretch? They're also seven to win against the top three teams in the league. I would say just, besides Wemby, the balance score between Fox

and Cassle and all them other guys, the effort they put in on the defensive end, when you got a guy like Wimby and, you know, back there, and they're playing great. I think Fox don't get a lot of credit for being a silent star on the team, a sleeper. He's getting overlooked by the performances of these, you know,

Castle, Wimby, and what they're doing. But they got a balanced team. And when it comes to the playoffs, I think that's going to be the scary part. You know, they could score in half-court. They could push the ball, fast breaks. They play both ends. It's just going to be about their mindset, you know, being young,

I think some people probably try to use that against them, but they're showing that they don't have no weaknesses right now. So let's continue to do what they do. Spurs have no weaknesses. Interesting, who said that. Canaan, let's shift. You were the biggest takeaways from the Spurs, dominant 15 and one stretch over their last 16 game.

No, to B's point, they've been putting together all season. Taking certain games of some people's regular season, valued making it a more intense playoff environment, I think goes a long way in your winning approach. Winning in this league is contagious. Once you have a taste, of it, you want to continue it. And I think the Spurs got to taste

that early in the season, man, on what winning and winning a lot feels like. And in order to put it together over the last month, helps moving forward late in the season. You know, so you have certain values and certain strategies

to lean on that dictates winning. So I think them learning that throughout the season, learning what it's like to have Winby off the floor, learning how to win without him, learn how to win with him being on many restrictions,

I think help the rest of the guys. And you are where you are now when you can put together a streak like they're doing now. Yeah, and winning is fun, man. Winning is a formula for longevity in this league. And I think the Spurs as an organization has proven that. And I think they're heading back in that direction then with the court that they have now. Last but not least, let's move on to Cemetery Larry.

You've opened the book. You scanned through them. I'm not sure what chapter you're on? But what are your biggest takeaways from the Spurs? Dominant stretch over the last six weeks anchored by Victor Wamba Wamba, as he is known. Chapter 64, the book of Mitch Johnson. Ms. Johnson gets his own book. Yes, the Mitch Johnson era is fully underway.

I think he's taking a couple pages out of the Greg Popovich era, but he wanted to transform this into his own identity. And I think he's done that with not making it post-ecentric, not making it pick and roll heavy. He's making it free-flowing. all guards and all players have an ability to step up and be a part of the formula. And if you really think back to the Spurs formula, it was really three guys. Bonner might have got his stuff.

Bowen might have got his stuff sometimes. But right now you got Harrison Barnes, you got Carter Bryant, you got Luke Corny, you got Dylan Harper, you got Champagne, you got Vassel, you got Johnson. I mean, you got, these are all guys without be saying Castle, Fox, or Wemby. And you've got a full team of guys who really have locked in to what the coach really has in store for the team, what his vision is. And I said it in the beginning of the season when I looked at their first game. Their first game was reminiscent of the team that played well during training camp. They had an incredible training camp, and you could tell it from the start.

They're all locked in. and it's showing it. And I think the leadership is non-forced. I don't think that Wimby's saying I'm the leader. I don't think Fox is saying I'm the leader. I think they all communicate very well. They cheer for each other. There's no animosity and they love winning.

So I think the Spurs can take it all. I think they can surprise a lot of people. I think they got depth, they got experience, and they got grit. And I think that's really the formula for competing for something as big as a championship. Ms. Johnson, own book. I like it. Most definitely so. Let's talk a little bit about Wemby

and what he's been doing this season. It was named Western Conference Player of the Week after averaging 26 points, 11 rebounds, nearly five blocks per game across the Spurs, four-game winning streak. So Jalen Brown has previously said that he's the best two-way player in the league, but this weekend he was forced to clarify that statement.

Let's see if we have the sound. for Jalen Brown should be coming up momentarily. But while we wait, okay, here we go. Wendie is a problem. You know, I told you doing it. When I say I'm the best two-way player in the league is not counting Wimby, like Wimby don't count. Wimby don't count.

He's not even human. I'm the best. Human player. Human player. Wimby known as the alien. So Wimby was asked about Brown's comments Sunday and said, that doesn't mean much to me. The awards which represent this would mean more to me.

So, Mr. B, we'll start with you. What's been most impressive about Wimby in year three? Man, I always go back to his first game. His first game against Dallas, when he came out and just his tone and how he set the tone for how the season was going to start. And the season has been like that ever since. You saw he took a trip.

This summer did other different things and got his body got everything together. Yeah, he had some injuries. But I think just the way, you know, lost in the Olympics and, you know, all that stuff. And then just being able to come back and be the leader, you know what I'm saying? Put the team on your back. It just says a lot, man. Like, you know, a lot of guys who want to be MVP or who are going to want these awards, you got a very short window because this kid, Winby's about to come in and, you know,

he's about to be taking all the awards and everything. So can you, when you look at Winby, Jaylen Brown saying he's the best two-way player in the league, non-human. What's been most impressive about Wimby in year three? Just the growth, just to continue in putting the work in. You can tell that he's working on his game. He's understanding his body and NBA game a lot more now.

The game is slowing down for him. So, yeah, barring injury, his trajectory is crazy. So Jalen Brown feels that way. Yeah, because it would have probably been easier for him to say, I'm the best two-way guard in the league, and he's the best two-way big, but then you got another big that's doing any due offense to me, so it's kind of tough to say that.

But I get his point, that Wemby is an issue, and moving forward he is going to be a force to be record with once he really understands. stands where his shots need to come from and that I don't have to settle for certain things. So once he gets that down, man, yeah, it's going to, it's already a scary situation for the league. It's going to get worse for the rest of the guys, trust. All right.

Shal, let's move on you, when you look at when Wimby's been able to accomplish the jump he's taken in this third season, I think firm runner for defensive player of the year in the MVP conversation, likely to make his first, all-NBA first team, as long as he can hit that a 65 game minimum. What's been most impressive for you for Wimby in his trajectory in year three? I picked him when he got into the league. You know, I figured, you know, it's not a limb to go on and say that he's an alien. He's not from here.

He's different. He's built different. His mind is different. He speaks different. He comes with a calmness and a certain mentality that oversees any type of challenges that arise. even him going to see the Shaolin monks to calm himself down, calm his body down, calm his mind down, prepare for the season to get through the blood clots,

and then being able to return and make an impact immediately to help his team propel them to number two in the West. I mean, this kid is very, very different. Even helping France, you know, get to the finals against the world team, that you are Team USA and having a bright spot for their world team. and then coming in here and solidifying himself as a powerhouse in the NBA, it's a lot. It's a storybook for him, you know,

and I'm pretty sure he's going to continue growing. He's going to continue getting better. I like everything he's doing, you know, even though he's going to get better, but I like his approach of not really caring about chasing stats and chasing numbers. He just wants to go out and affect the game the way he can, the best of his ability. And I think when you have a player like that that don't really care about, none of the stats and none of the awards

that's really like pushing him to go do things, you got a guy who can definitely help your organization win for years to come. Let's move on to Swaggy. So Swaggy, you previously referred to Wemby as a lunchtime hooper last season. Looking at the jump he's made this season, what's been most impressive to you about Wembe in year three?

I'll say everything, the mindset, The fact that he went and reached out to Jamal Crawford, you know, a lot of people don't do that. They have to reach out to, you know, superstars or called Jordan or, you know, he went to Jamar Crawford. You know, I like that. I like the fact that now people, he gets respect everywhere he go. People talk highly about them. You say you can hear the fear in certain players' voices when they speak about when to be doing the game, you know. And that's a testament to what the work he put in in the summertime.

Who thinks about going to see Shiland Monks? So whatever you got to do, the, get the confidence and get your game right. I'm all forward. And I think this year he took that leap. He wasn't just, you know, I didn't like the fact you seven, six, shoot 12, 13-3s, the game, stepbacks and all that. he's trying to get better. He's trying to learn the game,

and that's all you can ask for from any player. It's trying to improve and trying to get better. So I'm all for it. I think he's going to be, he could be one of the ones for sure. So, so, so, so you were saying that, like, he doesn't care about the stats and stuff. He just plays to win?

Or is it because it's the system that he's in? What's the question? Because you say he plays, You said he plays for to win rings, and he doesn't care about the stats and all the other stuff. I think it's just the system that he plays in. I think it's the San Antonio. I think he cares about the numbers.

I'm just saying. Okay. Because you can't call yourself a great end. So go ahead, Josiah. It seems like the approach, and Wembe's acknowledged and addressed it to be a lot more physical in the physicality. Obviously, that's different in the regular season

versus the playoffs. how do you think that will impact him in the postseason with teams trying to be more physical with him, push him out of his spots? That seems to be the game plan or recipe the teams have tried to enlist this season. Game plan every night, it ain't happened. So he's going to be on the floor more minutes.

So good luck. Yeah, whatever minutes he's playing in regular season, you can add three or four to that. His case may be more because he's been on the minute restriction. Yeah, certain guys, man, they don't, you're just going to put him on the line. So that being extra physical in this situation,

I think all you're going to do is get your bigs into foul trouble. And, yeah, it hasn't worked during the regular season. I appreciate that's been the approach. I don't think it'd be in the thing in the playoffs as well. He's just going to shoot more free throws then if you try that. So can you to your point, when you play 50 games this season,

averaging about 29 minutes a game definitely see that. Spur's been very strategic in their approach with, I think, managing him throughout the season to unleash him in the postseason. Yeah, like I said, maybe more. I said three or four to that, we definitely put him more to 37 minutes a night in the playoffs. And that only enhances their defense because we know what he is on the floor defensive for them

and when he's off, what those numbers look like. So, yeah, good luck. Mr. B, think Wimby will have any issue with the physicality as it increases in the postseason? No, no, because he got, no, his team is good. He got players, he got good enough players around him, and they've been showing it all year. So he'll just do something else. They'll figure it out because it's their system. It's the spur of system, the way it's set up.

That's why you think the physicality being issued all for Wemby come postseason? Or is he going to be good to go? Hey, man, I think it'll be good to go. He'd be trying to turn it to stuff on. You know, he's getting more relaxed out there. Oh, boy getting shorties now. Man, you can't punk him like he used to. The 7-6, well, he sees it night and the night out.

And the NBA is not as physical anyway as it used to be. So it'd be all right. Last penalty, Leicemeter, you think that physicality will be an issue at all from when he come the postseason or is he adjusting and learning in this regular season how to handle that come playoff time? I love it. I'm going to be doing some

small segments called Scouting Report that's going to give emphasis on what team should and shouldn't do towards the playoffs and given the fact that Wemby is biggest knock as be physical with him. I think him being able to shoot

35 from the three. He's shooting 50 from the field. he can get the ball off the bounce. He can take it all the way to the cup. He can collapse the defense. He can kick it to the teammates. And he can shoot the long step back three. There's a lot of things he can do.

The teams are going to be afraid to take away from him. And physicality being one of them that they think that they can actually do to take him out of the game. I think in the playoffs, the refs will start giving him those calls. I think that once they try to up the physicality in the playoffs, he's going to get those calls. He shoots 80% from the free throw. line. At this point, there's not a lot you can do to stop him. He's going to have to stop himself. So with giving the scouting report for certain teams, they're going to have to play around defeating the team and not trying to stop him.

So let's talk about situation went down. So like we mentioned, when we played against the pistons, he called him the most physical team in the league, had 38, 16, five blocks and four threes in that game. Spurs came back. How much he had? 38, 16, five blocks, also hit four threes in that game. No other players done that in a single game of NBA history. Came back, played the Clippers second night of a back-to-back. We're down 25 early in the third quarter, ended up getting the win in that game. Wimby was emotional.

I think we're seeing crying after the game. Talked about dealing with the physicality of Pitsons coming back, getting that win over the Clippers and that being one of the most satisfying wins for him this season. But when you look at that moment... What was his stats of that game? So you guys say his stats to that game? Hold on.

Let me pull it up. I think it was 29-9. Yeah. He had, excuse me, 27 and 10 and 4 blocks in that game. Four for nine from three. But do you guys have any issue with Wimby crying after the Spurs beat the Clippers, their largest comeback win of the season? That's the Spurs fan.

Hmm? Nope That's the tough people No No Man you're a little different Over there in France It's a little different

Shit, mean a little bit more to you Over there in France They cry a little bit different You know what I'm saying They never had a motherfucker Take it Take your French fries away It's emotional

It's emotional You know what I'm saying So I feel like he thought he was He was going to lose that game They fought back And he felt like he left it all on the floor And it was something that he needed to to let out, you know, he gets a pass.

He gets a pass for me on this one, so it's all good. It wasn't the Pat Bev moment. It was not a Pat Bev's, well, but it was not a Pat Bev's moment, in your opinion, Shaggy, how about yourself? Any issue with Winby crying after the Spurs, beat the Clippers, their largest comeback win in the season? You know, he's from France.

What you expect, you know? It's cried. Yeah, that's what... If you expect anything that... else, you know, different. You should be ashamed of yourself. So, yeah, it's going to be a couple more games. They're going to see him cry.

You're going to see him. Fucking, that's what he does. He plays with... He juggles. He juggles. He juggles. He what? He juggles before games, drink tea and shit.

So biscuits and shit, you know. You ain't never had a biscuit before? So... With jelly? It changed your life. It changed your life. I'll tell you something, what? Butter on that biscuit.

Put some butter on that shit. Man. You don't change your life. Let's move on to Mr. B. Carrying Country Club member. Any issue with Wimby crying after that Spurs went over the Clippers? Nah, just like Nick said, man, we just don't know he's going to be crying a lot of times.

After they win the playoff series, the first one, After they went round two, you know, if they get to the championship, we know it was coming. So you don't cry. But, I mean, listen, man, some people, you know, who knows? Like, a lot of guys who get to the NBA and able to play out with that on that stage, you know, they never thought they were going to be there. So a lot of people just don't take things for granted. And, you know, I just look at it as he's passionate. He's very passionate about the game.

So that's his thing. So you appreciate that passion in the game. I mean, I'm saying that magnitude, but that's just, it's starting to look staged to me. They calm down, calm down. It's just starting to look staged to me. You're doing a lot. He's doing a lot.

He's doing a lot. He's winning, he's winning, okay? All the other, yeah. It's never happened before. Relax, okay? Let that motherfucker get some wins. Shit. The way he's talking about you.

He's intellectual. He's passionate, emotional. He's passionate, emotional. personal impasse, let them go. A smarty art, Negro, as some we'll call him, a free grow. Free grow, he's a free, he's a free, he's a free girl. Hey, you got a coin now.

Thank you. Chat, chat. Remember you heard it first. We can't move on to you seeing that situation, Wimby. Spurs come back down 25, second night of a back to back after beating the Piss and top team the East, beat the clippers. Do you have any issue with Winby crying and showing emotion in that moment to celebrate that win?

No problem with showing emotion. I play with emotion. Cry out of my draft night. So there's nothing wrong with showing emotion when you're excited and you're happy. Just crying after a regular season win. It's a huge win. It's a big win. But just crying after regular season win, just don't do it for me.

but that was his emotion that he chose. That's what spewed out in the moment. So more power to win. I'm not going to cry after a regular season win. Okay. Over the clippers down 25? Like I said, more power to turn. That's the-

That's the emotion that he chose to show. Yeah, that's the emotion that he chose to show. He wanted to beat the Clippers back. Coalibuster's that's an all-star game. That's why. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? So that's the emotion he chose the, that's what came out in that moment.

So I can't fault him for it, but is it my thing? Nah, I'm not going to cry after a regular season. Game 58 of the NBA season, just not going. Just, nah. Would you do it if you were French? Would you do it if you were French?

With French Kenya, shed a tear. Kenyon is not French. Cain is African-American, so Kenya can say what he would do if he was French. Shit. The French part of Dallas. I feel like, yeah. Like I said, that's the emotion that they came out in that moment, man.

So I can't fault him for that. But is it my thing? Like, no, it is what it is. So looking at it. There's nothing wrong with crying. There ain't nothing wrong with crying either. Don't make people. Ain't nothing wrong with crying, man.

Shit. But in that moment, now. Yeah, not in that shit. In that moment. It goes into, like, he's trying to show that he, like, he plays hard. with passion and we don't,

like, all this is starting to go into, like, he always sending shots. I feel like this alone them shots, like the show that he plays with,

he leaving it all out there, cries after a game. Like, all this is starting to look a little stage to me. I think it's the second or third time I've heard you say that. You feel like...

Like, he's steady sending shots towards America and the NBA, like they're the only team that plays hard, play the right way, and everybody, else don't do what they do. So I feel like that's along the same lines.

Like, showing shit in the tears, showing them like, yeah, went out there and we played our hearts out type shit. So. I see you got a phone call? I did. I did. Yeah, I can't even reply. I can't repeat nothing.

He said it all in French, but I was like, yeah, I can't. I get it. He don't get no crapes either. As soon as that nigga want a crepe, he don't get one. Fuck it. No crapes for Nick. Shit.

We don't care. Hey, passion. Passion. Play with passion. Play with passion. I can't get no crapes, though? No craps. Did the teller?

Nope. Damn. None of that. No strawberry, none of that. No strawberries. Yeah. It's all right. If you got funnel cake,

I get a funnel cake in bed. And that's much better. It's much better. American-ized. Right. As you're Melon. Okay. But we talk about these Spurs, 15 and 1 their last 16th.

Seven and one against the Thunder Pistons and Celtics. Spurs dominated the Thunder in the regular season, winning four or five games against their division rivals. That was a regular season. Playoffs would be much different. If these two teams do happen to collide in the postseason, how do the Spurs need to approach beating the Thunder in a seven-game series? Wemby is going to be out there for 37 minutes a night, man.

37, 38 minutes a night. That's the advantage. So four out of five times, him being on mental restriction, him not playing the full totality of what he's supposed to get out of him, he is the key if they were to beat the Oklahoma City Thunder in the playoff series. My opinion, he is the X factor and all of that. bed on the floor for longer, helps them defensively. It deters Shea from driving to the basket and getting a lot of his looks.

So, Wimby. To me, I think, to me, I mean, definitely Wimby. And they're going to have to approach it like they did when they played them the first three times, how they just went out there and kind of bully though. They're going to have to watch that film and watch that tape. But that's the type of mindset they're going to have to have because, I mean, these, you know, these are the chance. and, you know, they don't, you know, they do what they do.

So I think for them, they would have to approach it like they played them, like I said, earlier. And, you know, like Kenyon said, they got Winby out there. So that's their advantage. It beats your point. I don't, I think they have enough mentally. The film, it is what it is. I think they hungry enough that they don't, like, they don't need, like to go. They can watch certain things that they did well, yeah.

But the fact. that we feel it here that we got their number makes us play that much harder and the game plan. You know what I'm saying? But in my opinion, but it's my opinion. I feel like O.K.C. got to figure out how to be there.

Like, hearing them in a press conference, Jay and Williams, he talks about Wemby, like they got a guy over there. Like, they, I hear a little fear in their voice. So, I don't know. I think the Spurs got their. number. I think it's on okay C to figure out how to

beat them. That's a good point. That's a good point. That's a good point. It's a good point in it. So switching to that side if you're okayC, how do you feel like you need to approach it? And this is hoping obviously that you have some semblance of a healthy roster, Jalen Williams back.

That's the first, Kent. That's the first, Keith. I'd say... That's the first. I'll say this. Two guys played well last night. AJ Mitchell, Jeremy McCain made big shots down the clutch. And I feel like Denver, the way Denver played OECC was similar to the way the Spurs play OKC early in the year, where they double early on, on Shea, got the ball out of his hands, trapped him when they could, but they forced the other guys to play move it basketball.

And when you look at Joker, Joker's not the defensive presence that Wemby is, But he was moving his feet in the rotations to make sure that those guys took hard shots. You put those other two guys in the lineup, Jalen Williams and Harkinstein, even Caruso. You got guys that can do things, but I think the element that the spurs bring to the table is being able to match up, gar for guard, big for big, and being able to oversee that on the other end of the floor. So if you can allow Shea to have 35, 15 assists, you could potentially lose that game based on him finding the other players and them hitting shots. But I feel also like if those players like Harrison Barnes, Dylan Harper, all of those guys can lock in, close out, make those guys put the ball on the floor and attack the basket, that's going to change the dynamic for the Spurs. I don't think they should play the same.

I think that OKC is going to change something up. I think it's going to be a dynamic of trying to figure out who do you stop rather than doing the old game plan. So for the Spurs, it's keep doing what you're doing offensively, keep adjusting defensively, but for OKC, you need another X factor because if Williams doesn't show up for the playoffs, you don't have an offensive presence in Harkinstein, you're really going to be leaning on AJ Mitchell and McCain to pick up the pieces.

And then Jalen Williams, the center. He had 29. He's hitting seven threes. Like, he's a guy that's out there shooting the brakes off of it. So you're going to have to get out to those type of shooters. But I think overall, the Spurs can dismantle the Thunder for sure. I mean, would you say that, I mean, just looking at that Thunder Creek, you talk about those role players that have been kind of thrust in that position to step up,

the Case in Wildness, Jalen Williams, A.J. Mitchell's done it all the season. Obviously, getting Jerry McCain with the Sixers saying they were selling high on them in that situation. But you think that the Thunder have a deeper roster than the Spurs right now? Or how do those two rosters compare? It doesn't make a difference in the playoffs where those tighten up anyway. I wouldn't say Spurs. I mean, OKC roster is deeper at this point.

I don't know. It's about even. Capable. Capable. You're capable. Because they've been there. Yeah. I'm saying they've been, they got the experience on,

The Spurs bench, but everybody except McCain, everybody except McCain, they got up to get the experience. I mean, OKC got over eight players average than 10 over 10 season. But they do like, OK, too, they got capable players in Wiggins that can give you 10. Jeremy McCain can give you 20. A.J. Mitchell had 24. Isaiah Joe gave you 13. All of these guys that are outside of shape.

are all bench players that have been playing well for them. Yeah. So, Wallace. Well, that one game. Wallace ain't really. And Wallace is capable. School Doris came. Well,

she did have 15 assists. So those guys were making shots, right? Let's call it. Yeah, they were making shots. Yeah. He had 15 assists. Those guys were making shots that night. They not,

so they have very capable of shooters, Isaiah, Joe, and Wiggins and the big Jay and Williams. The big, he shoots the ball well from the perimeter as well. But those, yeah, them shots got to go in, man, in order for them to have a chance, I think. And you can't rely on Jaylon Williams to have 29 off the bench. Right? That's just, in a playoff series, they're going to make him put the ball on the floor.

They're going to make him do some things he's not comfortable doing. Yeah, but it's going to be, listen, if they were to match up, it's going to be a good series. It'll be a good competitive series. So we'll see. That we will. Good place for us to wrap up. on this lovely Tuesday.

Like I said, we'll be doing these virtual shows. We're hopeful and optimistic will be in a studio in the very new future so we can all get back together. Continue bringing your favorite show. But I want to shout out this crew today. Josiah Hyde, we may take guilt out of punishment and allow him to come back to the show tomorrow.

Just depending on have a meeting with them tomorrow. But appreciate everybody in the chat. Obviously, appreciate everybody on this show. This has been another episode of Gil's virtual arena presented by Underdog. Whoa, whoa. We will see y'all tomorrow.