Gil's Arena - The Caucasian Lakers Prove They CAN WIN Without LeBron

Episode Date: March 17, 2025

The Caucasian Los Angeles Lakers Prove They CAN WIN without LeBron James as Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Crew return to Gil's Arena and react to the Lakers snapping a 4 game losing streak thanks t...o their all white lineup featuring Luka Doncic and Austin Reaves. They break down the Lakers' performances without LeBron James during this difficult stretch of games and debate how long the team can stay afloat without their GOAT Leader. They then flip to discuss another dynasty in the state of California and react to the Golden State Warriors ripping off 7 straight wins, breaking down how the trade for Jimmy Butler has unlocked this team for a deep playoff run and sparking a debate over if the Warriors have a championship level team. Next, they react to another hostile moment on the New York Knicks sideline as Josh Hart joined Mikal Bridges in his complaints over Thibs' heavy minutes policy, making the Gil's Arena Crew question if this Knicks squad is going to be able to hang on throughout the NBA Playoffs. Finally they break down some big games from over the weekend as Jordan Poole sank Nikola Jokic & The Denver Nuggets with a circus style buzzer beater, Shai Gilgeous Alexander dropped 80 points over 2 games for Oklahoma City Thunder and the Orlando Magic proved their the 8th seed nobody wants to face in the NBA Playoffs after snapping the Cleveland Cavaliers 15 game winning streak. Please give us a like and subscribe!!! Gil's Arena Crew - Gilbert Arenas, Josiah Johnson, Kenyon Martin, Brandon Jennings, Nick Young & Rashad McCants Gil's Arena Merch is Available NOW at https://gilsarenamerch.com/ Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get up to $1000 in Bonus Credits and A FREE Pick: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena To get YOUR FREE Jumpstart Trial Bag, go to https://ruffgreens.com & use Promo code ARENA USE Code GIL10 for 10% off tickets on SeatGeek https://seatgeek.onelink.me/RrnK/GIL10 Join the Playback chat to interact with Gil and Josiah https://www.playback.tv/gilbertarenas SUBSCRIBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAvjYgmwadC682OoC4Cc6TQ Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos! https://discord.gg/underdog Stream Josiah's Film "Memes & Nightmares" Available NOW on Hulu and Disney+ 0:00:00 2 Min Timer 0:02:16 Show Start 0:04:26 Gil Reacts To Alijah's Final High School Game 0:13:18 Swaggy Challenges Josiah In March Madness 0:18:28 Jimmy Butler SAVED The Warriors 0:27:28 Are The Warriors Championship Caliber? 0:40:05 How Many Teams Can Win The Title? 1:31:32 Bronny Claps Back at A Heckler 1:42:46 Shai Gilgeous Alexander Drops Another 40 1:52:56 Pistons Coach Crashes Out On The Refs 2:09:46 Magic SNAPS The Cavs Winning Streak 2:16:26 St Patrick's Day in The Arena 2:24:00 MostlyFans Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:44 Everybody on the couch ready to go. Okay, Gil, see you. Ooh, shit. You got green. You can't pinch him. It's like another mystery scoop. Pinch. Got a little green with a nasty jersey. Where's green? Right here.
Starting point is 00:00:58 It's close enough. That's green. What the mother fuck is this? Forrest green. I do the color. But this is Gil's Arena presented by underdog, Woo Woo. As always, we got the legend Gilbert Arenas here with us. What up? Bringing his championship experience to the arena,
Starting point is 00:01:16 NBA champion of the world, Championship Pete. Nick Young is back on the couch. I'm Sigma Pete. Huh? I'm Sigma Pete. I'm young today. I'm young. I'm a young person. Sigma.
Starting point is 00:01:27 Okay, Sigma. Okay. Sigma mean cool. Sigma P. Sigma P today. Representing Tough Crowd, Tough Crowd University, we got Mr. B. Brandon Jennings back here with us. Damn. A little delayed reaction. And on this side of the couch, former number one pick,
Starting point is 00:01:43 the gentleman from Oak Cliff, Canyon Martin. He's a gentleman, ladies and gentlemen. Don't believe what you heard. And the man known as Cemetery Larry, Rashad McCants, is in the building. So we got a lot to get into today, but before we do, Gil, you were in Sacramento this weekend checking out your son Elijah, his last high school basketball game. USC native. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:09 Yeah. Boo. But unfortunately, the Chatsworth squad did not succeed in their quest to win the state championship, but he became just the 15th player in California history to surpass 3,000 points, city all-time leading scorer, and he's celebrating his 18th birthday today? Yesterday, yesterday. Yesterday. Coach Musk came.
Starting point is 00:02:30 Coach Musk came. Okay. Showed up to his birthday. He said he needed a gift. His birthday was yesterday, too. I forgot. I be forgetting. See, that's why I be thinking they're the same age.
Starting point is 00:02:41 Man. Every time my son had a birthday, his son had a birthday. That's 18 birthdays. What the fuck? That would work. You know what I mean? Like, wait a minute. Every year is a birthday.
Starting point is 00:02:54 Yeah, that would work if the lodge is older. How old is he this year? That would work. 13. 13. Again? Man, stop, man. God damn.
Starting point is 00:03:03 This is the oldest, youngest thing I've ever had, man. He turned 13 again? Man, stop. God damn. This is the oldest, youngest thing I've ever had, man. So you turned 13 again? This is like the fifth time he done turned 18, man. Just became a teen, man. Teenager. I got a teenager, man. But Gil, you're obviously in Sacramento watching Elijah, his last high school basketball game. What do you just think about his
Starting point is 00:03:19 career following your footsteps and becoming the best arenas in the family? Underhand slap. I like it. I mean, that was great. I mean, you know, what we said. It's a backhanded compliment. Slap.
Starting point is 00:03:33 Fronthanded. Backhanded compliment. No, it was a good compliment. It's a backhanded compliment. Slap to me. No, but it's a backhanded compliment. Good parenting. Right?
Starting point is 00:03:41 Backhanded compliment. We all want our kids to do better than we did. What you meant was, we got what you were saying, but what you meant was a backhanded compliment. If you do this, it's a slap. But same. Okay. Slap, backhand, same thing, right? It hurt.
Starting point is 00:03:55 I felt it. Yeah, same difference. So it was effective. But great parenting. You acknowledged it? You know, his eighth grade year, you know, trying to figure out what school he was going to go to and looked across the board, did all the research on certain schools and realized old school method was still the best method for the end result of him being a pro or trying to get his chance to be a pro. He needs to build his individual basketball armor. So going to Chatsworth, and I said, by your third year, if you're projecting on how I
Starting point is 00:04:31 think you're going to project, then we can skip your senior year and just hit the college. So the talent I believed in ended up showing he believed in it, and everything has came true so far. All right. Well, we wish Elijah all the best as he goes to USC. Stay safe, Elijah. Get one of the blickies from dad. It's a little rough over there on that side of town. Wow. Wow! Hey, we in the tournament now.
Starting point is 00:04:58 Back in slacks? We in the tournament right now, dang. I just thought about what he said. Hell, tell him. Nah, whatever, son. Nice little slap. That's not him. Whatever. Nice little slap. Hold your wallet. Hold your wallet.
Starting point is 00:05:09 All the fans out there, we still got two viewing options for you. Our traditional version, mobile vertical version. Pick which one you want to watch. Just make sure you support the show. Here's what's cracking in the arena today. The Warriors have won seven straight games and are 14-1 with Jimmy Butler in the lineup. But are Steph and Draymond's claims that this team has a championship-level roster facts or cap? The Lakers snapped their four-game losing streak with a win over the Suns. But what did their near-win in Denver with the injury-depleted
Starting point is 00:05:35 roster say about the Lakers and the Nuggets? You've seen us. We didn't have Black and Miles, LeBron, Rui, Luka. Still almost came through. Ref's helped out the Nuggets. That's neither here nor there. And the Magic snapped the Cavs' franchise record 16-game win streak in Cleveland in what could be a first-round playoff rematch. Will the Cavs keep rolling or do the Magic have a trick up their sleeve? Before we get into all that, as always, if you want to get down with Underdog, download the app, use promo code GIL, get up to $1,000 in bonus cash, plus a special pick-em. And of course, Underdog is dropping a Luka Doncic discount every game he plays for the remainder of the regular season.
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Starting point is 00:06:54 How y'all feel on the couch about this partner pack? Possible? Feeling a little lucky today, Gil? You've been in the chat posting a lot of dubs. One always gets me. Who has the last game, Steph? You don't think he's gonna get five assists? I hope he gets five assists.
Starting point is 00:07:18 Yeah, he will. Yeah, he'll get five. I hope he gets five. That's what I'm hoping. Just like y'all. I hope so. Double-double? 23 points.
Starting point is 00:07:29 All green. Needed one band. He got it. And failed. You got something, though. I got nothing. You got a great show. I don't have insurance. I was so confident. You got a great show. I don't have insurance.
Starting point is 00:07:45 I was so confident. You got a raw dog to pick. Always, ladies and gentlemen. Always raw dog to pick. Be real. You don't need no insurance. Put no Trojan on. Trust him.
Starting point is 00:07:59 We saved lives. We saved lives. I shouldn't, but I trust him. Break under pressure. I trusted him. But we pressure. I trusted him. But we asked the chat, are you riding or fading Gil's picks? 68% of the chat is riding with your picks for tonight, Gil. They're rolling with you.
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Starting point is 00:10:29 coming from underdog more ones will be announced at the end of the show go ahead and hit that subscribe button get us over 978 so we can get closer to a million so as you know selection sunday was this weekend and now we know who will be dancing on the men's and women's side both ucla squads will be represented for la in March Madness with the USC women's squad holding it down for the Trojans as the men's look to bounce back next season with the life of- Hey man, what is this shit? It needs to be cold.
Starting point is 00:10:55 They need to put the motherfuckers in the refrigerator. Hey, hey. What is it? It's beer, but they need it. It's Guinness, but they need to put it in the refrigerator. It's warm. It's not- Brown beer? It's not that appetizing right now.
Starting point is 00:11:09 Normally, it's good. Yeah, yeah. It's for decoration. Yes, please. It's for decoration. Oh, we didn't supposed to drink it. No, I'm drinking mine. No, they're for, yes, for drinking.
Starting point is 00:11:17 You can put ice in beer? It's for drinking purposes. You can put ice in beer? You can. You can do whatever you want. You can put ice in whatever you want. Yeah, it's your drink. But like I said, Selection Sunday.
Starting point is 00:11:26 Caught me off guard, my bad. I thought it was coffee. Selection Sunday was this past weekend. Both UCLA squads will be representing the tournament. What season y'all be? Don't worry about that. Whatever we need it. Whatever we need it, Swag.
Starting point is 00:11:38 We gonna get there. Men's squad look to bounce back next season with Elijah Arenas coming to town. Hopefully make the tournament. So USC's women's squad defeated UCLA twice during the regular season, but took a big fat L in the Big Ten tournament championship game. As a result, UCLA was the number one overall seed in the women's tourney. USC was also a number one seed as well. Not the number one number one seed, though.
Starting point is 00:12:00 That was UCLA. Not the number two number one seed. Not the three number one seed. Number one seed. The last and final number one seed though that was UCLA not the number two number one seed not the three number one seed the last and final number one seed obviously had coach Lindsey Gottlieb felt some type of way about it now the Bruins and Trojans squads are on the same side of the bracket so we won't see you on the championship but we may match up in the final four so swag you've been known to run your mouth a lot and a little too much in support of your alma mater. So let's make a little friendly wager
Starting point is 00:12:28 to see if you're really trying to ride for your side. So if my alma mater goes further in the tournament, you gotta wear UCLA gear on an episode of Gil's Arena presented by underdog, Woo Woo. Woo Woo. And if your alma mater advances farther, then I'll wear some of your school's gear on the show. What is my school name?
Starting point is 00:12:45 Don't worry about it. Okay. Yeah, you know. School got no name. School? I take that back. You take it? All right, let's shake. I got juju.
Starting point is 00:12:52 I got juju. Okay. We got Lord Best, Kiki Rice. We got everything we need. You know, y'all got us twice regular season. Whoop they ass already two times. Regular season. Now we're in postseason.
Starting point is 00:13:05 Y'all made the tournament? So that's the real thing? If you like the last first pick, people get mad? Number one seed? I don't know. We were the number one overall seed, so that's not an emotion that we have to deal with. I think so.
Starting point is 00:13:17 Arizona, I believe, made the tournament as well. I think fourth seed. No, I'm talking about the women's. Women's? Oh, Louisville? Oh, Louisville, yeah, yeah. That's what I'm asking about the women's women's Louisville. Oh, yeah You don't want to get in that wager We got a bunch of freshmen what we We got there, you know technically you see them technically you were on on swaggy side. We got we got there So y'all want to link up?
Starting point is 00:13:45 Both of y'all? Our freshers got that. Both of y'all. If my one monitor goes further, both of y'all. We just, yeah, good job. The two youths. The two youths. Y'all got to wear UCLA gear on the show.
Starting point is 00:13:56 You're a part of the family now. I saw somebody on CBS pick y'all to lose men's in the first round. Well, that's not somebody we respect. We worried about the women's tournament. They got the leprechaun coach. Yeah, I don't know who they playing, but I know their coach is going to beat them. So, Gil, you going to team up with Swaggy
Starting point is 00:14:12 for our little wager? No, nigga, so the thing is, with the tournament, teams do well in the tournament for some reason. They used to do well. Yeah. They used to. I ain't seen you with them. Because they just going to play defense. Don't want to do nothing in a long time. Like Arizona used to be good too.
Starting point is 00:14:31 So Swag, we got a wager going just to make sure you don't renege on it. We're going to post it on Instagram, make it IG official. You with that? We're going to let all the fans join in. Make sure you don't duck no smoke when it's time for your punishment. This is Bronny. This is the second famous person that you ever seen. Okay. Oh, wow. You got a... I didn't want to wear Juju yet. I didn't want to... Not yet. We got several weeks to go. Juju's first in is Bronny.
Starting point is 00:14:55 As of late. Love and basketball. As of late. You don't know nobody this year. Who's gonna... Better. I mean... Juju got better. When it come from basketball, but bigger name Yeah We're gonna keep this wager going on IG y'all make sure to follow along swag
Starting point is 00:15:21 I look forward to you rocking some brewing gear on the show. I'm gonna bring some of my extra medium stuff from back in the day. Oh, man, I ain't worried about it. We won twice, right? We whooped your ass twice, right? Lost in the tournament. It don't really count, you know, tournament. Big-time tournament.
Starting point is 00:15:35 Championship experience did not come into play. UCLA was successful. It's hard to beat a team three times in a row, you know? Well, we gonna beat y'all twice. If we see y'all, we'll be there. Final four. Hopefully y'all make it too. So you got to wear Trojan stuff, right? I will do that for you.
Starting point is 00:15:52 I know. I'm very confident. My dog gonna wrap it up. Oh, he gonna wrap it up. Magnum. I need the Magnum side. Y'all talking in my mouth. Oh my God. Y'all talking about with each other? What? No. Against each other? What? No.
Starting point is 00:16:06 Against each other. What the fuck? Battle of LA, sir. Using Trojans and shit. Called that sword fighting. Huh? What is going on? I'm confused.
Starting point is 00:16:14 I'm trying to... Battle of LA. I'm trying to focus here. Let's refocus right now. We're just Trojans. Let's get into some NBA basketball. Hey, Condor's on this couch. I see.
Starting point is 00:16:22 Huh? Huh? Niggas, hey, Condor's on this couch. I see. Huh? Huh? Niggas, hey, Condor's on this couch. I see.
Starting point is 00:16:30 Let me keep my drink away from y'all. Keep that Guinness on that side. What's going through your brain? What are you thinking about? What y'all talking about? I have no idea what's going on right now. Huh? Let's keep it open.
Starting point is 00:16:40 Back to basketball. Please. Back to basketball. So, for a trade deadline, Warriors were looking cooked. Some of us in the arena were more than excited to urinate all over their grave. But the Jimmy Butler move has revitalized the Warriors, perhaps postponed the downfall of the Dubs dynasty. Warriors were in the midst of a six-game winning streak with the Knicks coming to the Bay for a primetime showdown Saturday night. There was a little extra motivation for Cat after Draymond made comments about him ducking Jimmy Butler when the Warriors pulled up to the Garden back on March 4th,
Starting point is 00:17:07 when Cat was actually attending the funeral of a family friend. But the Brunson-less Knicks were no match for Chef Curry in this new-looks Warriors squad. Let's take a look at some highlights if we can. Steph had an off-shooting night by his standards, but still did his thing, finishing with 28.7 rebounds and five dimes. 8 for 20 from the field, 4 for 13 from three. Moses Moody dropped 18 points in his 19th start this season with the Warriors improving to 18 and 1 with Moody as a starter.
Starting point is 00:17:32 Jimmy Butler 3 for 11 from the field, finished with 11.6 rebounds, 7 assists. Jonathan Kaminga had 10, 5, and 5 off the bench. So Cat battled foul trouble and Draymond Green calling him soft. So after the 11-point first quarter, Cat picked up his third foul early in the second quarter, getting baited by Draymond as the two went back and forth
Starting point is 00:17:50 trading insults. But Cat exploded in the fourth, finishing the game with 29 points, 12 rebounds, going 12 for 21 from the field. O.G. Ananobi
Starting point is 00:17:58 had 23 and 9 boards. Mikael Bridges and Deuce McBride both had 19. With the Warriors up by nine midway through the fourth, Cat scored 11 straight points to help tie things back up. But as you can see, it was not enough. Warriors up four under a minute remaining.
Starting point is 00:18:17 Draymond sealed the win, driving my cat for a layup and then pulling out the night-night celly. Draymond also referred to Cat as Carl in his post-game interview, but didn't give him some love. Said Carl had a good day. The fact that you do another man's celebration when you score is crazy. Carl. Right?
Starting point is 00:18:40 Fucking crazy. I'll be hot. Right? And you look disgusted doing it It ain't even graceful Don't look like you're going to sleep at all You're going to be like Quick nose
Starting point is 00:18:56 Disgusting doing it too Warriors are 15-2 in their last 17 games 14-1 with Jimmy Butler in the lineup. After the game, Draymond was asked about the impact Jimmy Butler's had on the Warriors and had this to say. It's a real ball club now. You know, him on this team, when he have 11 points, he make us a real ball club.
Starting point is 00:19:16 And when we're a real ball club, we usually win championships. Mr. B, I see you nodding your head. Talk that thing. Huh? Huh? Huh? Oh, so mr. B. I see you nodding your head. Oh Huh Huh, you can huh, huh I'm confused confused
Starting point is 00:19:38 So what were you before? Oh, you wouldn't a ballclub. Yeah, so what I'm fucking I'm really confused. Are you not like I lose you know I'm really confused. You know what he's saying. So what do, I'm fucking, I'm really confused. No you're not. You're confused, you know. I'm really confused. You know what he's saying. So what are you, so you're not, so what? Somebody thought, it was somebody thought we wasn't the club, we wasn't the club we was supposed to be. Hold on now. Now we the club we supposed to be.
Starting point is 00:19:55 You bring one person in, now you. Back to actions, actions. Yes. You bring a big time player like that in here. It's like a barbecue. A bartender, so now we're a ball club? Yeah, it's a barbecue. It ain't no barbecue a botanist. So now we're a ball club In a barbecue without the man I'm not competing without him. Is that what he's saying? Yeah, we don't know he wasn't competing
Starting point is 00:20:13 It's not a barbecue without mac and cheese. Yeah Somebody gotta bring the mac and cheese He the mac and cheese They good everybody the results are the results. They're playing very well. I'm not going to dispute that. But the words, like, he completes us, maybe. He happy.
Starting point is 00:20:34 He happy. He completes us as a team. Yeah. I'm with that. But not we're a ball club now. Like, we're like, no, don't do that. No, be like we. He helps us. He helps us. He ball club now. Like, we, like, no, don't do that. No, be like we, like... He helps us.
Starting point is 00:20:46 He helps us. He completes us now. He brings what we... He brings what we've been missing. Give me those words. Give us a new weapon. Don't, like, now, now we're a ball...
Starting point is 00:20:56 Now we're the official ball club. Yeah, now we're official. We was YMCA, AUG, but now we're a ball club. Are we not? For sure, for sure. So we're still NBA players, are we not? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:07 Are we not four-time champions? What you call that? Am I not Draymond Green, a four-time champion? Yeah, you are. Yeah. Now we complete. This year? Don't give me those words.
Starting point is 00:21:19 Well, how you saying you can't do it without certain. Yeah, that's what I'm. You can't do it without this. So what are you built on? Like, for him to say it. Yeah, that's what I'm you can't you can't do without it Like that's my so I like for him to say that's a great fucking point I don't from him to see if it come from Steph And it's a little different. Mm-hmm. Then coming from the guy was supposed to be the then force that the mud of the team for him to see it
Starting point is 00:21:43 When he said to KD, we don't need you. We don't need you. Yeah, yeah. It gets real nasty. Now all these things come. And then we went and won it. Huh? And then they went and won the championship.
Starting point is 00:21:53 But that never changed the organization. It never changed now. It's like the organization has always been. Been that. Even when KD came in, we don't need you. Like we playing well now, yes. Now he's saying, oh, he completes us now. So that's why like he, he brings what, like.
Starting point is 00:22:05 Well, because we lost Clay. He brings what we've been missing. Give me some different words. I'm saying, I understand what Draymond is saying. That, that. But. I mean, you're reading. You're reading.
Starting point is 00:22:16 No, no, I'm listening to the words that came out of this man's mouth. Real ball. I don't. I'm not putting anything on it. They're playing very, very well with Jimmy Butler. Absolutely Well speaking of anything different than We got the world's tallest leprechaun You really built like that. Thank you. Don't skip me. Man of God. You really built like that. I don't want to trip.
Starting point is 00:22:46 Because if you fall. What is that? I'm going to fucking laugh. He said, I know. Because you're not going to be able to get up. Why are you getting hooled? Why are you getting hooled? Yo, if you fall.
Starting point is 00:22:55 Ladies and gentlemen, the world's tallest leprechaun. Somebody push him over and don't help him up. I'm not that big. And that suits you. That's how they knew. That's how he's supposed to look. I just want to see him. Yeah, this is, yes.
Starting point is 00:23:08 I want to see him get up by himself. So Sigma P, Championship P, Swag P. That's all. I want to laugh. We're a member of this Warriors dynasty. So for what it's worth, Draymond isn't the only one who feels the Warriors are a championship-level team with Jimmy Butler. During a recent interview with 95.7 The Game, Steph had this to say about the Warrior Squad and what they're capable of this season.
Starting point is 00:23:28 You guys really think you can win it? Absolutely. That's why we're in this position. I mean, how many teams think they can win it right now? Probably, what, eight to ten? I'd say eight. How many have won it four times? You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:23:42 There's eight to ten teams every year, six to eight, ten teams every year that think they can win it. If you want to be in that category, does it mean it's going to happen? We'll see. But I like the idea that we can confidently say on a night-to-night, we can figure out how to beat anybody. Let me ask you this. If you were to win it all, what would be the reason you'd win it all?
Starting point is 00:24:01 And then what would be the reason that would get you beat? There are some really good teams out there um you got you could look at boston cleveland okc denver the records teams that have uh three of those teams who have won it before so you you think about uh experience but for us we have that experience on our side. We have a good balance of veteran presence, youthful energy. I think the fact that since the trade, our roles have been clearly defined. Our rotation is pretty consistent from a night-to-night perspective. It might get a little tighter as you get closer to playoffs, but having your 9, 10 guys that you know are going to play the the bulk of the minutes who's going to be out there on the floor that
Starting point is 00:24:48 clarity has given us a lot of confidence but at the end of the day you know me Draymond Jimmy we've all been around we know what it's like to be in a playoff series to have to figure out that specific opponent and how to beat them four times and like like I said, if you get us in that scenario, we like our chances. So like I mentioned, Warrior's been very phenomenal. 14-1 with Jimmy Butler in the lineup. Beat a lot of men. Beat a lot of men.
Starting point is 00:25:15 You see the words he used? Two different moments. No, but you see the words that he used. Two different players, too. Right? And he just hit a game-winner for his thing. Elaborated on what makes them, right? Not that we're bald now, like...
Starting point is 00:25:33 Mm. So let's play a game of Facts or Cap. I'm gonna ask you guys a question. You tell me Facts or Cap. Warriors have a championship-level team. Facts or Cap? FACS. Swaggy, you say FACS. Why do you feel like this Warrior Squad is capable of winning a championship?
Starting point is 00:25:52 When you got Steph playing like that and he got like his Batman is hard. I mean, his Robin is hard to beat a team like that. I haven't seen it before. I've been in that locker room. Draymond looked like he's finally back and not just out there. He looked like he's getting happy again. So I can tell the locker room is better. That's a bad matchup.
Starting point is 00:26:18 Jimmy energy is better. Yeah. You know, he got the whole team. I didn't know who Mobley was doing the moves like that. So he got them other guys playing confident. So Mobley, ain't that his name? Mobley? Mobley?
Starting point is 00:26:34 Moses Moody. Moody Moody. Moody Moody Moody. What's his name? What, Moses Moody? 18-1 as a starter this season. That's what I'm saying. He can drive into the hole doing pump fake spins.
Starting point is 00:26:44 Use your vowels. I thought the name was Moby. Moby Moody. Moby Moody. Use your vowels. Moby Moody. So we can understand. What's his name?
Starting point is 00:26:53 Understand the full context. What's his name? Use your vowels. Y'all don't even know. Y'all don't know his name. Moses Moody. Moses Moody. Moses Moody is his name.
Starting point is 00:27:02 You just mix it together. Moses Moody. You just don't make some shit up out of me. You understand? I mess up all the time. We understand you're a USC guy. That's all. You went to Cleveland.
Starting point is 00:27:12 We get it. You went to Cleveland High School. We get it. Let's move on to Mr. B. Seven years. When the Draymond clip was playing, you were nodding your head in agreement with the ball club championship level team. So the Warriors have a championship levellevel team, facts or cap?
Starting point is 00:27:25 Facts. Okay. With their experience, you know, with Steph Curry, Draymond, Jimmy Butler. It's build-up. Steve Kerr. And then, like, you know, when, you know, that time when they beat up Boston, you know, we didn't have them winning it that year. And, you know, it's kind of like that same year again.
Starting point is 00:27:45 They're under the radar. Now that they're 14-1 with Jimmy. Yeah, I definitely think they have a chance. They're very experienced. Let's move over to our show's namesake, Gilbert Renan. Was almost named Hippolyta. You were almost named Hippolyta.
Starting point is 00:28:01 Hippolyta or Hippolyta's arena. There's not many names in the Cuban, Afro-Cuban heritage. So you say facts as well. So this whole side of the couch, facts. Yeah. And why do you feel like the Warriors have a championship-level team? Because he said it. Steph Curry said it.
Starting point is 00:28:21 The guy who has four rings. Four rings. He said this team right here is Capable of beating anybody in a four-game series. So I trust the shit that's coming out of his mouth He said absolutely so right now warrior six. He said it would well, you seen the face, right? You seen his face when he said it yeah, yeah, of course So, all right, well, let's move over to this side of the couch. Cemetery, Larry. Warriors have a championship-level team. Facts or cap? Super cap.
Starting point is 00:28:48 Super cap. I'm going to count that as two caps because it is super cap. Yeah, super cap. So I'm just going to dive into the whys. You go back to the dynasty when it started. You go back to who was on the team, the dynamic scores that offset Steph Curry. At the time, probably Draymond offset Steph Curry. At the time, probably Draymond was averaging double figures at the time. You had bench players that were averaging
Starting point is 00:29:10 double figures as well, so you had dynamic scoring power that could really bring something to the table for a championship dynamic team. In all the years that they won the championship, they've always had two different dynamic scores, especially in the recent one when they had Jordan Poole, Klay Thompson, Kevin Durant, Klay Thompson. Then you look at all the utilities around that. Dive into this year. What utility players are going to give him that dynamic scoring that he's going to need in the playoffs? Game one, you do what you do like y'all been doing here, 14 in a row. We got seven games to figure this shit out now. Let's take this away from him.
Starting point is 00:29:48 There ain't nobody else on this roster that's going to give them 25-plus. I'm not even banking on Jimmy doing it. So how can you be a playoff contending team getting out of the first round if our scouting and our scheme take the ball out of Steph Curry's hands, we're going to blitz him on every pick and roll, and we're going to slow rotate to Draymond Green and make him have 30 tonight. Moses Moody, we close out.
Starting point is 00:30:12 We make him put it on the ground. We do a lot of things. We talk about basketball to offset this team's confidence. We've never seen Steph have to promote this, which means to me that sounds like he's selling something. He ain't never had to sell it before. He worried. He worried.
Starting point is 00:30:30 They feel good because they're playing good, but you're not playing teams that get consistent, scouting on you, and got to play you seven games now. Playoffs is different. Let's move over to Kenya Martin. Kenya, Warriors have a championship-level team. Facts or cap? Well, everything that he said,
Starting point is 00:30:46 I'm going to go cap as well, being that they in sixth and the team that's in third, I don't think they can beat. Who's the team in third currently right now? The Denver Nuggets. So beating any team in the playoff series, I'm going to go right now.
Starting point is 00:31:00 As it stands, I'm going to have to say cap because I don't think they can beat Denver in the playoff series. So I'm going to have to say Cap because if they match up in the first round with that team right there, with that guy, I don't think there's enough over there like to Dermot got too much So if there's 10 can if there's 10 teams that's considered Contenders you don't you don't think they're one of them the 10. I don't think there's 10 teams that can win a championship
Starting point is 00:31:40 No, he said that shit mm-hmm so in it I don't believe there's 10 teams that can win an NBA championship. How many teams can win it this year? Realistically, I think six to eight was the number thrown out. He said to 10. He said six, eight, maybe 10. No, my ears are fucking well. Y'all not going to save fucking 10 teams. So out of contenders, where would you put them?
Starting point is 00:32:06 If they are at a 10. So you put them at 10. But I don't think there's 10 teams. So if they are at 10, they're not on my list. Of teams who I actually think that can go out and win it, like right now, I don't believe in them. They're playing well right now, absolutely. Yeah, but they've been
Starting point is 00:32:25 Throughout the year before they got Jimmy like they hadn't been a really good basketball team. No, it wasn't at all So deaf the fact that they leaned on this man that much Yeah, and it's more than what he said anything in a playoff series He gonna have to bring more than just what he's ten eight and seven He'll have to bring more than that on a consistent basis. In a playoff series, he's going to have to average 20-something in a playoff for them to be able to
Starting point is 00:32:51 beat a good team in a playoff series. Have he done it before, though? He's going to have to bring it. But has he done it before, though? Has he, Robin? In the Eastern Conference? Yes. Has he done it? In the Eastern Conference? Yes. We're not talking about that conference over here, no.
Starting point is 00:33:08 This is varsity basketball over here. So the West is the varsity conference. I'm not rolling with Denver like y'all rolling with Denver. He's JV. Yeah, this is the big boy basketball over here, where your first round matchup, you're facing the three. Do you want to see Steph in the first round matchup? Do you want to see Nikola in the first round? Do you want to see Steph in the first round match? Do you want to see Nikola in the first round?
Starting point is 00:33:26 Do you want to see Steph? Steph don't got enough to sustain what they got over there. Especially. They just, listen. They've had them. So, they're 14-1 since Jimmy got there. 14-1 with Jimmy in the lineup. They've had to do.
Starting point is 00:33:38 So, you know where they were before Jimmy got there? What they had to do to get to six. Yeah. They've had to play. So, yeah, they're playing well now, yes. But that's like any team. You take the second best player off a team, you take Murray off them. But we're not.
Starting point is 00:33:55 So now we're talking ifs and shit. No, but you said that's where they were. The team now that they're playing. But he's talking about the matchup. The matchup, right? If the season ended,, it's a date. But let's just say this. They ain't got nobody over there to guard the Colts.
Starting point is 00:34:09 It's a bad matchup. That's what he's saying. Nobody can guard them two, though. Change the matchup, though. Like I said, they've been in the basement all season, dog. Thunder versus Thunder. For a reason. Thunder Warriors.
Starting point is 00:34:17 Do Warriors want to play the Thunder? You don't want to see a team that wins. Why you just don't put Yolic in the pick and rolls then? Yeah, dog. Because he's not a good pick and roll. I mean, because his pick and roll is not that good. He said blitz. I didn't say blitz.
Starting point is 00:34:31 I didn't say blitz. Because how you going to blitz with Jokic? He said blitz. That's fine. Listen, you got to go. You don't got to blitz with Jokic. What he do on the other end, I'll assess whatever Steph going to do is what I'm saying, dog. Whoever he guarding, we just going to go pick and roll.
Starting point is 00:34:43 It's cool. People tried that shit before. Push over the top. I know, but we're calling cap on if he thinks he's a top, his team is top 10 to be considered, then I say cap.
Starting point is 00:34:53 He's capping because he don't got the ammunition. It's his top 10. So why are we having the topic then? If it was six. So why is the topic? So why are we having the topic then? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:35:00 He put it up there. Therefore, I'm answering the question that was asked of me. We're going to a high quality show. Whatever the statement, I don't think that there's 10 NBA teams that can win a championship. I find that to be quite
Starting point is 00:35:14 false. Y'all got enough ammunition compared to the past to make a run. How can you call that cap? Because you don't have enough ammunition. He has a championship mentality. Have He has a championship mentality. Have you won a championship? Listen.
Starting point is 00:35:28 Have you won a championship? I have. In the NBA? No, no. Okay. How can you tell a champion how he don't feel like a champion? He don't feel he can win. If he felt that way when he won, how can you tell him he don't feel that way now?
Starting point is 00:35:42 Are you digging in your bag right now? No, no, no, no. No, he's saying that. No, no, he's saying that he don't think that is him. You can't tell a champ. You can you tell him don't feel that way now? Are you digging in your bag right now? No, no, no, no. No, he's saying that. No, no, he's saying that he don't think that it's him. You gotta tell the champ. You can't tell the champ he's not a champ.
Starting point is 00:35:50 Bro, nobody's telling the champ he's not a champ, bro. We're literally saying you don't have what you used to have to have the feeling that you have now because there's confidence from your past, right? So look at your past and say,
Starting point is 00:36:04 do I have what I used to have to do what I used to do? I do not. But do I still believe that I can still do the shit that I used to do? Of fucking course I do. But do I really have what I need? Top 50?
Starting point is 00:36:19 I can dunk that motherfucker, but I can't swing off the rim like I used to. So what the fuck? I'll give you. So, how was his scores when? The Warriors since February 8th, if y'all want me to run through. How was his scores when he played against Boston? Because it was just him and Poole, right?
Starting point is 00:36:35 What do you mean, how was the scores? Because it was only two. Klay, Jordan, and Steph. Klay was. Klay's giving you 18 a game, bro. It was Wiggins. Wiggins. 18, 20, and 30. No, it was more Wiggins than Poole. Andiggins. Wiggins. 18, 20, and 30.
Starting point is 00:36:46 No, it was more Wiggins than Poole. And then add Wiggins. Add that's four. Add that. That's all you got. You got that. And then you messed up and woke up Kaminga. Kaminga was supposed to give you 17.
Starting point is 00:36:57 He's averaging 17. He's supposed to be giving you that. Kaminga coming back from injury now. Working his way back there. 17, 18. Moody. Then you missed Clay. You talking about a playoff.
Starting point is 00:37:04 So you didn't replace Clay. You can't play all the motherfuckers now. They might not give you 10 no more. You can't play all the motherfuckers, so you got to pick eight. 11 no more. You got to pick eight. Maybe nine. That's the playoff rotation.
Starting point is 00:37:17 Let's call it what it is. You can't. So those two are going to be in it for sure. We're talking about consistent. Kaminga and Moody, they're going to be in the playoffs. Moody's start, right? Okay. What you would expect to win a championship?
Starting point is 00:37:29 But only he has that feeling. You only added one guy to that eight that you done had all season. So on this couch right now, I want to know how many teams you feel like have a realistic chance of winning the championship. Steph put that number at 10, anywhere from 6 to 10. What's the realistic number of teams? It's Steph put that number at 10. Anywhere from 6 to 10. What's the realistic number? It's closer to 6. Like Eastern Conference, how many teams have a realistic chance of winning
Starting point is 00:37:49 a championship? Boston. Depends on who Milwaukee plays. I really think Milwaukee is a problem, dog. They get Jimmy Butler, I mean, but Bobby Portis back, they're a problem. I really, they and the playoffs here is going to be held to deal with. A distant third.
Starting point is 00:38:08 My book, a distant third, because they don't have the experience. Cleveland? Yeah. They're third, right? That's it. Let's move to the Western Conference. How many teams in the West do you feel like have a realistic realistic shot? We're being realistic so we got the Lakers and who else do we have?
Starting point is 00:38:24 The Lakers go to state. Lakers go to state. No, we're not going... Man, the playoffs. What other team? Let's stop it, bro. It does. Brooklyn lost Kyrie
Starting point is 00:38:36 and fucking... They just changed. Yeah, this shit happened. They got a chance. I don't know, man. As you look at those standards here right now, what teams do you feel like...
Starting point is 00:38:43 It just depends on how the playoffs... That are not on dope or dog food. That's why I gave you a shot. For believing that they can win. If everyone just stays healthy... Where they are, yes. Just healthy, yes. The best...
Starting point is 00:38:55 If everyone stays healthy, Clippers got a chance. Mm. Yeah. Lakers. Denver. Okay, see? No love for the Thunder 13 game leader.
Starting point is 00:39:12 The Clippers got a chance. Over the Thunder? I'm not going. You don't like the Thunder? If we take away Shea, who actually has the experience to take over like he does? Them as a team, though. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:27 Everything runs by him. He controls everything. Yes. So you remove him, they remove him. They don't have anybody who actually has experience. Who's removing him? The defense or whatever. He gets his outro.
Starting point is 00:39:42 So it's called elimination. So if we remove him. Because that's not happened yet. Or whatever. He gets his voucher. It's called elimination. So if we remove him. Because that's not happened yet. Because they haven't figured out how to remove Shay. So now you believe in defense. This is playoffs. So if we remove him, who is capable of even sustaining 25% of what he does?
Starting point is 00:39:59 Right? If you remove on Clippers, who do you remove? Kawhi? You still have James Harden. Right? Averaging what? So Jalen Williams is averaging what? 21. Same thing, bro. Who's a better player?
Starting point is 00:40:14 Right now? Who's a better player? Right now? James Harden. James Harden. Yeah, James Harden. Not even second most. No, James Harden. Then who's the third best player in that series? Harden averaged a 23-9-6 decision.
Starting point is 00:40:28 I love Jalen Williams. So I'm on Jalen. Okay, cool. No disrespect. No disrespect to Jalen Williams. He was a hot star. Yeah, but James is a better basketball player. Oh, yeah, that's the old James.
Starting point is 00:40:36 That's the older. Old James is still doing it at that age. The young kid is the young kid. No, he's the young kid, but he's still not better than James. It's a better team. We're talking about a team here. We're not playing one-on-one right now. We're talking about...
Starting point is 00:40:50 Offset. We're not fucking playing one-on-one. You got an offset. You're talking about a team. James Williams offsets James Harden with this matchup. It's an offset for sure. And ain't nobody be able
Starting point is 00:40:59 to stop Shea or slow down Shea or do whatever they want to do. Even if you put Kawhi on him. You got to put Kawhi on Shea. You got... Then you got Chet. Chet didn't even play the full. Chet Zuboff.
Starting point is 00:41:09 That's Chet Zuboff. What are we talking about? We're not talking about the high school Chet. Better team right now. We're not talking about the college Chet. We're talking about the NBA Chet. Stop using his name as if he's out there motherfucking Wimby in it. Chet Hologram.
Starting point is 00:41:21 Wimby played last year. He just came back. He is not in full motion to be a real threat in the playoff series. As a team? This is a playoff series. I'm going Oklahoma City. When we're saying we're going to focus on you, we're going to make you beat us, he ain't
Starting point is 00:41:35 averaging 44 seasons. I mean for a series, he's not capable of doing that yet. He's not old enough to do that. What I'm saying is he's not old enough. If I cut off Luca, Kyrie is going to murder us. Right? If I cut off Kyrie,
Starting point is 00:41:51 like, you have to have another guy who can do him. Jalen Williams is not old enough yet to do him. He's still inexperienced. He's still going to go through his two, three years of trying to get it. Kyrie got cut off too last year.
Starting point is 00:42:08 He got cut off and who else did they have? The nigga named Luka, right? He got cut off. And then when he got cut off, you had the Kyrie guy. You see what I'm saying? You can't cut both legs off at the same time. You can only cut one off. So if we cut off Shea, who is is gonna actually produce for them that has the experience they're just not
Starting point is 00:42:30 experienced yet cemetery that's all what they've done I trust calves more than I do okay see for sure what they've done if they change the landscape right in comparison to the Warriors Steph is used to winning with this formula. The formula Shea has is a college formula. It's not a formula that we're used to seeing that can take it from game to game all the way down the stretch and get deep into the playoffs. I believe that if they stretch this formula of how they have been winning these games, they don't win the games in a dramatic fashion where the highlights are this or that. They stretch the game out.
Starting point is 00:43:07 They grit and grind you. They strategize and they outwork you, right? And then by the time fourth quarter come, you look up, they up six, they up seven. Shea, take us home. If they can do that in the playoffs, down the stretch and win six, seven, in the six and seven game, they can take it deep. And they don't need to have experience to
Starting point is 00:43:29 do that. They just need to be consistent with Chet doing what you do. Get us eight, nine rebounds, get us 10, 12 points. We're going to grit grind this shit like how the Grizzlies used to do back in the day. Grit and grind, slow the game down. Let Shay take us all the way through this shit. Let's beat them down. If they don't play it that way, then it falls into Gil's hands where you don't have the experience to add up to regular NBA basketball playoffs. Where we're playing like this and you need a secondary guy, you need a third guy, and they don't have that. So I agree with those guys. This is the second year in a row having the best record in the West, right?
Starting point is 00:44:03 So you don't think they learned from last year? This is the second year in a row having the best record in the West, right? So you don't think they learned from last year? That's what I'm saying. They can get it done with their form. They can get it done with their form. They learned something from last year, I guarantee. But if they try to play that style, they won't make it. And they defend that. Look, they learned something from last year, guaranteed, bro.
Starting point is 00:44:16 They learned something from last year. Absolutely. Them, they have a better team than the Clippers. Yeah. I'm going with them over the Clippers. I don't, no. Denver will be a different story though. Because that's a whole different strategy.
Starting point is 00:44:28 It's like that strategy has to go now in Gil's favor because now they're going to need a secondary guy. But they still going to have to grind it out and they can take it seven with Denver. But I think the Thunder. Thunder can take Denver to seven but it's going to be, like I said, they don't have that secondary guy to do it. They was the matchup, but we'll see. If they formula work, it works. There's not 10 teams that I don't.
Starting point is 00:44:58 They've been showing me who they are all season. So I've had a large sample size to go on. A regular season? All season. Like, winning is a learned behavior, dawg. You act like it ain't. Your roster is your fucking roster. You can't change the stripes on a fucking zebra, dawg. You are who you are
Starting point is 00:45:15 at some point. They've been playing well as of late. Adam, give them all the credit. The trade for Golden State and the rest of these teams, there ain't 10 teams that can fucking win no championship, dog. We're not buying that shit. Wasn't Dallas terrible? We had a hard time
Starting point is 00:45:30 coming up with six teams just now. So y'all finna tell me 10th, no. Eight, no. Dallas was terrible last year. When? It was the sixth seed.
Starting point is 00:45:37 They hit the sixth seed and then their veteran played. They had the right matchup in the first round. Their veteran play got them all the way to the championship.
Starting point is 00:45:45 Matchups matter, right? Whoever was the number one team, number two team, none of that matters. Does matchups matter? Does matchups matter? Minnesota? The first round matchup, you play the wrong team in the first round, you can have early fucking summer. And I said Clippers in the playoffs, that's a mad matchup for OKC.
Starting point is 00:46:00 I don't think so. A fully healthy Clippers squad versus a fully healthy OKC squad. You have Kawhi who is going to do what Shady did. That's a great matchup. You have one that's a finals MVP, two years straight. He is a legit champion. So we're speaking facts here, right?
Starting point is 00:46:14 A playoff Kawhi, that's what I said. I said healthy. So let's call it. I'm glad you threw that in there. I threw that in first. I'm glad you reminded yourself of that. No, I'm reminding you. I'm glad you throw that in there. I threw that in first. I'm glad you reminded yourself. I think we all said that. I'm glad you reminded yourself of that. No, I'm reminding you. No, I'm glad you reminded yourself of that. I said healthy.
Starting point is 00:46:30 I'm glad you reminded yourself of the facts of the conversation. All right, so when it comes to this Warrior Squad having a championship-level team. Facts. All right, and we asked the chat if the Dubs have a championship-caliber team. 60% of the chat agrees with this side of the couch that the Warriors have a championship-caliber team. We also asked the chat how many teams can win the title. So 31% said 1-3.
Starting point is 00:46:57 61% said 4-6. 7% said 7-10. 1% said 11+. So that means over 92% of the chat thinks there are six or less teams that has the potential to win a championship this season. But let's keep this thing moving. I want to give a shout out to Rough Greens for sponsoring today's podcast. Ever see your dog slowing down or having health issues and wonder, what can I do to make them better? Add Rough Greens to your dog's food for 90 days and you'll see changes that will amaze you. Invented by Dr. Dennis Black, Rough Greens wants to invite you to give your
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Starting point is 00:49:17 Dog named Jack. Yeah, that nigga biting something. Named after Jack Johnson, the boxer. See? See? There he coming. That's how you know he. Unforgivable blackness, man. Jet black. Jet black. Jet black. Jet black. Yeah, they good-bye named after Jack Johnson the boxer say
Starting point is 00:49:29 You know unforgivable blackness man, I will jet black I'm gonna bring Jack up Y'all Alexa bring her fucking dog out a little you get both now now y'all discriminate now gets my dog now. Yes We can dump him No, he can thump Lexi, dog. You can thump Jack, too. Might not go the way you think. I just know it's big. Listen, I walked in this garage dog right there,
Starting point is 00:49:56 so I seen a cage, so I'm like, oh, cool. Realized there was no top on that bitch. Oh, it's open. Yeah, it was open. Like, oh, hell nah. Chico, run! That dog, hell nah., oh, hell nah. Chico, run! Man, that dog, hell nah. He can just stand up. Chico, run!
Starting point is 00:50:10 Oh, yeah, nah, Jackie. Yeah, Jack by 220. That's it? Good. Oh, he definitely, you see him coming. He, yes. South African Borbo. He's a master, but Borbo, he, yeah, he's a man,
Starting point is 00:50:25 but he's bigger than the Cane, of course. Cane, we'll take your word for it. If you want to bring pictures of Jack to the arena, we'll happily look at them and compliment you. Yeah, man, we just gonna... Bring Jack, he'll sit right there and won't bother nobody. Trust me. He's trying.
Starting point is 00:50:40 As long as I'm here. As long as I'm sitting right here, he ain't gonna do shit. What happens if you had to step out to make a call or do something? He'll come with me. Okay, that's fine. I don't want him to have to tell him. As soon as I get ready to go towards the door, he'll just come with me. If he's scared, say he's scared, man.
Starting point is 00:50:53 I'm scared. Get a dog, call the police. I'm scared. So I'll bring both. So I'll bring the Frenchie then. Okay. Bonjour. Oui, oui.
Starting point is 00:51:03 All right, well, let's keep this thing moving. You can start with him. Lakers, one of the hottest teams in the league from mid-January through early March, taking an eight-game winning streak into the TD Garden back on March 8th before suffering a loss to the Celtics and ultimately losing LeBron for a stretch of games with a groin strain.
Starting point is 00:51:19 But like J.J. Redick told the team after their 20-point loss to the Bucs, quoting a legendary Jay-Z lyric, it was all good just a week ago, Lakers pulled up to Denver for their next game, missing six of their top eight players Oh, I said that out loud? Mm-hmm. You didn't mean it, though. dropped from second to fifth in the West. Oh, I said that out loud? Mm-hmm. You didn't mean it, though. Sunday, the Lakers returned to L.A. for a meeting against the Suns. Luka back in the lineup for the first time since he dropped 45 and 11 boards in that loss to the Bucs.
Starting point is 00:51:57 So Luka and Devin Bookerbeef, well-documented, stemmed from their battles when Luka was with his former team. Sunday, Luka showed D-Book why things won't be much different with him in the purple and gold. Let's take a look at some highlights. So Luca delivered another solid first quarter, nearly outscoring the Suns by himself with 13 points compared to their 15. Luca finished the game with 33 points, 11 rebounds, and 8 dimes, going 13 for 14 from the line. It was his seventh 30-point game since joining the Lakers. Lemon Daddy, Austin Reeves, had another big game as well,
Starting point is 00:52:25 28 points and six dimes, and Jackson Hayes added 19 and six boards on eight of 10. Shooting, Kevin Durant left the Suns with 21 points and nine boards, but was six for 17 from the field. Devin Booker was also six for 17, finished with 19 points and 11 assists.
Starting point is 00:52:39 And Bradley Beal scored four points in 15 minutes before leaving the game in the second half with left hamstring tightness. So... Again, he hit KD with that shit you said. That foot with that ball placed. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right?
Starting point is 00:52:57 KD with that ball. Standing in the same spot. The ball just... Just the ball. Luka was mic'd up during the game. Remarked that he's never been this open before. He said that? Lemon Daddy boy.
Starting point is 00:53:11 Never been this open. Shout out to Papa De Limon, Lemon Daddy, Austin Reeves. Lakers got their seventh straight home win to get things back on the right track. And shout out Black and Miles, Dorian Finney-Smith for doing this thing. So in his last 11 games, Luka averaging 30 points, nine rebounds, 8.3 assists.
Starting point is 00:53:31 So Gil, you're our resident Lakers fan. What has Luka shown you during his time with the Lakers now that he seems to be fully recovered from his calf injury? I see you over there giggling. Did you include your fucking self in it too? I'm merely hosting.
Starting point is 00:53:42 I'm the conduit. No. The vessel, if you will, for question asking. No. I'm going to just be honest. I wasn't listening to the shit you said. I'm merely host, K. I'm the conduit. No, no, no. The vessel, if you will, for question asking. No, no. I'm going to just be honest. I wasn't listening to the shit you said. I was just admiring the highlights.
Starting point is 00:53:49 What'd you say? A lot of nothing, Gil. Okay. If it has anything great to say about Luka, I agree. So averaging 30 points, nine rebounds, eight assists in the last 11 games.
Starting point is 00:54:00 As he should. Okay. Like, he just kills Phoenix. That's all? It'd be like, that's all? Phoenix? No, like, kills across the board. He kills everybody, brother. Everybody, brother. He really kills Phoenix, so like, it's cool.
Starting point is 00:54:10 Like, you know about the AB, man. But how do you feel if you bookered, though, in this situation? Always getting killed by this motherfucker. At some point, you just gotta apologize. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:54:18 I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. But how do you feel if you booker though in this situation always getting killed? At some point just got apologize
Starting point is 00:54:40 Boy you just got like, you know what man? Even beefing about brother., brother? I wasn't familiar. I wasn't familiar. I get it. I get it. You keep setting an example on me. My bad. I'm sorry. Just need to come over to your side. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:54:54 Just, riddle. One of them players on one of them teams, got your number, right? Like, damn. Not tonight. Every time, yeah. I felt that way against Antonio. Like, we got to play these motherfuckers again.
Starting point is 00:55:05 Mm-hmm. We gotta play him again. Damn. Mm-hmm. Right? This motherfucker, like, no matter what I do, because of that shit, this motherfucker got 27, 13, 6, 5. Like, he didn't play that well.
Starting point is 00:55:20 He do shit tonight. He do shit tonight. Damn. Just every time, though. I slowed him down. I slowed him down. I slowed him down. I slowed him down. I slowed him down. He do shit tonight. He do shit tonight. Damn. Just every time though.
Starting point is 00:55:29 I slowed him down. Them got a quadrupedobo out this. A clip before the game, D-Book showing up to the arena, dapping up JJ Redick, Rob Palenka, who were in the tunnel. Yeah, ain't got nothing to do with the person. He got a guard. I persuade him. Come on over. You tired of guarding, Luca? Come on over. Y'all go. You don't got nothing to do with the person. He got a golf persuade him. Yeah, come on over you tired of garden
Starting point is 00:55:45 Look, come on You know, just just leave it so add one more to the equation on your side Right Seventh man Steph Curry, but you're not a Lakers fan though. No, can you know merely a host nearly a huh? Okay on st. Patrick's Day. Oh, really? St. Patrick's. But you like what you're seeing from Luka,
Starting point is 00:56:11 showing he can be the alpha. Don't run your eyes, okay? Listen, I loved what Luka was doing when he got on the plane. The way he got on the plane showed me greatness. No, I mean, but, you know, obviously, you know, he missed, you know, a lot of part of, you know, the beginning of the season. So once he got into his motion, I mean, what changes from who he's been? Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 00:56:36 Just, you know, different colors. Right. Right. Luka's going to be Luka. 50% of Luka is still dominant in this NBA. So, you know, as long as everybody's healthy,
Starting point is 00:56:54 I mean, 38-9, I mean, that shit, that's overkill, but that's what he do. Right? How much he hit? How much he hit? 38?
Starting point is 00:57:03 Last 11 games. He's averaging 39-8? Last 11 games. He's averaging 39 and 8. Last 11 games. Damn. I'm flighty. And he's still trying to find his little motion. All right. So let's shift over to this side of the couch.
Starting point is 00:57:15 Tim and Terry Larry, former Lakers fan, hopefully making your way back on the bandwagon at some point. I see a look of disgust in your face as you're looking at me. Yeah. The former Lakers fan. Oh, that is it. It's the formal. Just a Lakers fan. Is he? Okay. Just waiting. Coming back. Just waiting. Waiting in the wing. As a student in the game, I watched the game from a perspective of, okay, yeah, Luka's giving you 33 and 9. What's been stopping him from winning championships? And it's the other side of the ball.
Starting point is 00:57:49 And when the other side of the ball is affecting you and your team getting over the hump because certain plays are key moments, you give up big, big plays. And throughout the game, you let your team down because you only focused on this. The one thing I see with Luka that really frustrates me is he celebrates after his shots that he makes, but he don't celebrate on the defensive end when he gets a block or a steal or a deflection.
Starting point is 00:58:08 No skipping on that side? So all your energy goes focused on offense. Even if you were hired as a hired gun to do just this offensive shit, there's still another element where we playing five on four. And that's championship basketball where it's going to be i don't trust luca at all i don't trust him at all so i just want to point out lakers had the number one defensive league since about mid-january neither here nor there but similar maps had one of the best defense league after they made those trades brought in yeah like you'll always point out when you can can sit behind a formula or a machine,
Starting point is 00:58:46 it look like you're playing defense until we break it down in the Boston series and we attack you and we make the difference glaring. You get more stops.
Starting point is 00:58:58 If this guy stops this guy, you guys have a chance. I mean, FYI, you can't celebrate after you get a block or a steal because now I got to go shoot. And after I shoot, thenI, I mean, you can't celebrate after you get a block or a steal, because now I got to go shoot. And after I shoot, then I can celebrate.
Starting point is 00:59:09 Just, you know, I get a steal, I can't really celebrate that. I got to go get my bucket, the shit I want. Like, um, like, people used to, so this is what, so people used to have to complain, say the same shit about Melo, right? Like, Melo didn't guard nobody. Melo was a bad defender But if you told mellow like to go guard that person he gonna do like him like I'm not asking him
Starting point is 00:59:36 Certain things you have to tell these like these really really good scores like to simplify it in ways sometimes Honest effort every time we're mellow he gonna try gonna do this that in the third and I think with this situation with Luca They put it since they whatever last month or whatever a couple weeks Whatever it has been he'd been little over a month since he's been back in action and the defense has been playing Better it's schemes. It's it's putting them in situations knowing that there's a deficiency there and Scheming the game plan to help that deficiency out so it doesn't stand out. Mm-hmm, right If he's in a pick and roll sometime and they we know we trying to get today trying to get him on the ball We just doubled that situation. So he's not and didn then have him run out so there's a situation that I
Starting point is 01:00:27 think JJ is putting him in now to make it not as glaring as it was in Dallas right we're just gonna switch everything put him on the island and now it's there now you tell him listen I need you to give extra effort running back on defense right I don't need you get fouled that 12 times a game shit that he used to do. You're going to do it, give me two. We get it. It's human nature, right? You get fouled sometimes, it's a fuck you play. We all
Starting point is 01:00:53 understand it. We've all been there. But instead of it being multiple times a game, let's try to limit those. And I'll put you in situations to help you. And I think that's what JJ and him doing now. I'm saying with the defense. Because you got enough guys around him
Starting point is 01:01:08 that's solid individual defenders to where you can help that out and make him not look like how everybody thinks he's just this fucking statue. What's so funny is like, when you're a bad defender, it's just more concepts, right?
Starting point is 01:01:25 Where you just don't let, like. Yeah, just don't get me straight. Don't get straight lined. Don't get straight lined. Just don't get straight lined. That's the only thing. Give me a chance to help. Yep, let your teammates give a chance to help.
Starting point is 01:01:35 If you let them straight line you. So make sure when he puts the ball on the floor, one or two dribbles. That's a job you do. So if you can focus on just keeping it in front of you, one or two dribbles, that's a job you do. So if you can focus on just keeping in front of you one or two dribbles, that gives everybody enough time. Now we're in a constant rotation. Now, because if you get straight-lined, now this guy got to help. Now he got to help.
Starting point is 01:01:53 Now he got to help. Now it's shots for everybody around the board. Now that's how you get beat. Tony Parker and Ginobili then wasn't great defenders, but you couldn't tell. No, schemes. Right? Because all they had to be great is. Fun on your ass. Yeah, just fun on you. Fun on you to him and them. Don't tell. No, schemes. Right? Because all they had to be great is funnel you.
Starting point is 01:02:05 Just funnel you to him and them. Don't let him go that way. If I can get around this screen, you fucked up. If you funnel me to that point, right, that's his job now. Your job is to snap back. If you don't snap back, that's your fault. So it's concepts. We know it's
Starting point is 01:02:21 effort and pride from one side. Effort and pride. I want to stop this dude in front of me, and I'm going to play as hard as I can to do so. But then there's, I'm seeing Luka make that move against KD. Right? It's a fucking nice move, wasn't it? He looked real limber.
Starting point is 01:02:38 He looked real like he was ready. I need that on D. You can't tell me you don't got that. You don't got that foot. That's all footwork. That's all effort. I say it with bigs. You can't just use that for Luka. I say it with bigs. No, I use the analogy with bigs, right?
Starting point is 01:02:56 Because he can get down and do this move and do this move. He can get down and step here and slide. Step here and slide. I'm here. Hand up. Turn, box, and go get three now He don't Want to do it See what you'll sort of get what you point like so if you watch what he did with Katie it ain't his feet
Starting point is 01:03:23 Right, it't his feet is a nice right name his feet But it's mostly the ball right yeah So I say the same things were bigs this that has like that's nice on the block that you can boom boom boom Give me all this shit on the block and you mean to tell me that you can't be up at the level of the pick And roll I don't buy that shit at all You can't be that nice offensively and be down there motherfucking trying to give me the motherfucking dream shake up and under, step through. You got same legs, same hand finish. That's a big, all
Starting point is 01:03:52 that shit. You can't tell me that you can't move your motherfucking feet laterally. Because there ain't no game plan for it. It's the book. When you open the book offensively, you got the offensive book. I got to remember the offensive book. Defense ain't no book. It's nigga get in front of him. Beat him to the spot. Beat him to the spot. I got help offensive book. I got to remember the offensive book. Defense ain't no book. It's, nigga, get in front of him. Beat him to the spot.
Starting point is 01:04:07 Beat him to the spot. I got help right here. He's going to help me on the third one. When the game is on the line, watch how well Nicola moves his motherfucking 50-50 in that motherfucking pick and roll. He does. You say all that shit you want. I'm saying all that shit we say he bad defending, he bad defending.
Starting point is 01:04:22 When it's on red. When it's time to get down. When it's on red. When it's time to get down. Last five minutes. We say bad During the game though, he does have I'm saying when it's time to win go watch it when it was time to win How much you put him in a pig row? I guarantee he gonna have that fucking them seven foot eight wingspan out this bitch He gonna move loud and make you pass the ball, I guarantee it. He'll get defense when he won't, basically. Yeah, when this shit is real, yes. When it's time to win the championship, like he's proven, yes, absolutely. But it's all an illusion, though. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:52 Yeah, of course. It's not black and white. It's an illusion that a slow player, so someone like Luka, someone like Larry Bird, someone like Jokic, they know what they're trying to do. They need the faster guy to react, right? So how they look on offense is not their real speed. It's your speed that they're speeding up, right? So because he knows you're faster, more athletic,
Starting point is 01:05:20 all he's doing is just using you against you. So I'm going to fake it here. You overjump. I come back here. It looked like I moved. I didn't do shit using you against you. Absolutely. So I'm going to fake it here. You over jump. I come back here. It looked like I moved. I didn't do shit. It was you. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:05:29 Now, on defense, when you move, goddammit, you moved. I can't keep up. That's not the same. That is the same. The reflection is exactly as it is on offense. No, it's not. The move you make to make this move, because you're trying to make him move when I move.
Starting point is 01:05:46 The same on defense. I'm going to wait until you move, and then I'm going to move. Or I'm going this move because you're trying to make him move when I move. The same on defense. I'm going to wait until you move and then I'm going to move. Or I'm going to move before you move. Whichever one is effort. It takes effort to do that. And then you notice that now while you, now think about what Luka was doing in the championship. He knows Jalen Brown is faster than him.
Starting point is 01:06:01 So what did he try to do? Try to catch, he tried to beat him to his spot. Like, okay, he's coming down. He wants to go right. I'm going to pre-jump it to see if I can get him to change direction. Because he knows if he tries to wait till Jalen goes, he's not going to be able to catch it. He's not fast or quick enough. He can shake Jalen because he can just sit there and throw the ball out there and pull it back and do all that. So it's not, the foot speed is still a foot speed. But that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying when he's coming down and Jalen's making that move or whatever, like, he can step in front, but it's your second and third efforts that you don't give.
Starting point is 01:06:39 That's the knock on Luka. He can't get to it. I can't get to that. He gone. Listen, like you said, no straight line drives. I don't believe Luka gives He can't get to it. I can't get to that. Listen, like you said, no straight line drives. I don't believe Luka gives straight line drives. I think he forces them to the first move and then
Starting point is 01:06:51 he lets them go. He gives up the effort and then they go by him. Go to the film and if everybody's watching, watch Luka Doncic play first line of defense defense. He lets them go by and then he olays. That's the effort. That's the sense of urgency you need as a defender
Starting point is 01:07:08 to actually have your teammate help you. That second effort helps your teammate get across. I hear you, yes. But when you've been bred and taught that we need you on the
Starting point is 01:07:24 floor, since he's been overseas to now you started playing and taught and that we need you on the floor. Since he's been overseas to now, you started playing professionally to now, it's kind of hard to change that. It's not. We've seen the examples. You've seen the examples of both sides of the ball. I want to see that clip.
Starting point is 01:07:39 Both sides of the ball. I want to see that clip. We've all seen it before. His hips probably don't allow him to. No, that's an don't allow him to. Play both sides of the ball. He basing this off of what? The championship?
Starting point is 01:07:49 Huh? When he played Boston? That's what y'all basing his no defense off of? No. He just don't play defense. We know that. That's obvious. He doesn't like to play defense.
Starting point is 01:07:59 It's not his thing. It's just like every scoring point guard. They hate playing defense. They think that they have to reserve their energy for scoring. The best defense is a great offense. Your offense is your defense. Until you get in foul trouble because you don't play no defense. No, not trying for not playing defense at all.
Starting point is 01:08:18 That's how you get fouled. The worst defenders are the ones that don't play D. Those are the worst defenders. Yeah, no. Worst defenders? What did you say? The worst defenders are the ones that don't play. No effort.
Starting point is 01:08:31 They don't try. They don't do nothing. They're the ones that always get the fucking fouls and do all the bullshit. In the way all the time. Yeah, no. Rotation. I was never in the way. How many times have you fouled out?
Starting point is 01:08:43 How many times have you fouled out? How many times have you fouled out? Shit, I got my fouls on offense. Offense or fouls? You get by me, I'm not reaching. Duh. That's what you are for. Block that shot, big fella. Isn't that what I'm talking about the whole time?
Starting point is 01:09:02 You get by me. If you get by me, I'm not reaching. I'm letting you go. Never get in five. That's what Luka's doing. Reaching. Never getting in five. You ain't supposed to reach.
Starting point is 01:09:10 That's a foul if you reach. You're supposed to move your feet. Hey, man. We all. You can only move your feet so much. I mean, you are going against the best players in the world. What camp should y'all go to? Y'all ain't get taught this shit.
Starting point is 01:09:22 It ain't just about your feet, though, defensively. Yeah, it's everything. everything reach for the ball Jack Man, you got two slides and my guys and somebody else right there two slides I mean somebody's guys in the league is one to somebody good bro But no listen all that ball. This is my thing is How rare yes the best player but you look at some guys that playing this NBA right now They can stay in front of that ball still, man. It's about the way you've been taught growing up.
Starting point is 01:09:48 Guy's going to score. He might make the shot, but he ain't get by you. Right? He didn't dance and did all this shit and did three pick and rolls, and you didn't fall through this pick and roll. You didn't fall through another one. You didn't body them up. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:02 Listen, I didn't do all that, and you make it. I'm going to pat you on your ass and tell you good shot. You earned it. Right? You had to do all of that to score on me. And it's contested. Right? You had to do all of that to score.
Starting point is 01:10:16 You didn't got that motherfucker. I didn't make you pump fake six. And I didn't jump for one. And on the last, you got to go up because now you got, and you make it. That's fucking great defense, man. Like, hey, man, good shot, dude. Right? jump for one and on the lab you got to go up because now you got and you make it that's fucking great defense man like hey man good shot dude right that's all i'm saying like they're gonna score absolutely but it's certain things like you you didn't motherfucking boom boom boom boom boom boom crawled brought me back what the do do pick and roll then brought me like god damn
Starting point is 01:10:42 listen i might back i might back up and say, God damn, dude, just shoot the bitch. I hope you score, I hope you score. And that's the one thing that I,
Starting point is 01:10:51 if you're coaching Luka defensively, that would be the number one thing to do. Just back up. Right, they're coming at you,
Starting point is 01:11:02 just back up. Like, let them shoot. You can, you can contest late. Don't, just back up. Let them shoot. You can test late. Don't allow them to the basket. So if he's coming in, he's doing all this, just understand. That's my... Let them do a step back, you challenge it late.
Starting point is 01:11:15 Versus you trying to pick up and then he just blow right by you. That's why I play this. Unless you bring the ball, dude. You start all that dancing shit, dude. You're not going to cross me over because I'm going to back the fuck up, dude. You start dancing, I'll take a step back.
Starting point is 01:11:31 Because if you decide to go downhill, I'm going to meet you. Whichever way you fucking decide to go, you're going to have to shoot the ball, man. Like, don't dance. Hands up. As soon as you listen, you do this shit with me, and I'm going to knock the ball out your hand.
Starting point is 01:11:48 Dudes don't reach for the ball enough. They just let you sit there, dance, dance, dance, sidestep, and not. No. Do all that, dude. I'm going to contest it. I might get my hand on it. I might not. I'm not going to foul you on the shot.
Starting point is 01:12:02 If you back up, that's a bucket. That's for some people. For some people. Not everybody. But I'd rather you taking a. I'm not going to foul you on the shot. If you back up, that's a bucket. That's for some people. For some people. Not everybody. But I'd rather you taking a contested shot. A contested two or three versus getting to the basket. Now you put pressure on defense. So I'd rather you back up.
Starting point is 01:12:16 I get what you're saying, but don't they like shooting threes now? Then you like it. That's cool. You can like it all you want. You can like shooting them. I like you. Team threes a game. Cool. Yeah. Cool.
Starting point is 01:12:25 Yeah. Cool, but it don't put no... It don't... I didn't let you go by that. They don't put no pressure on the team or the team defense of misrotation. So if you're going to sit a whole bunch of jump shots and I can stay in front of my guy and challenge,
Starting point is 01:12:40 I'm not really a liability. And who's Luka going to be guarding that's going to have a bag like that? Just team defense is going to help you. You're just going to put Luka on the... It don't matter. You can put him on the best guy. You can put him on the best guy out there. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:12:55 But then you're just going to double team him. I would. I'd put him on the best guy out there, motherfucker. We're just going to double team him. Hey, defensively, if you're a coach, would you rather Luka plays the best player, right? He has to guard the guy who's trying to score all the time, or weak side defense?
Starting point is 01:13:20 I don't want him in weak side defense. Okay, there we go. We're in the same. Because if he's engaged. Yeah. See, the thing is, see, if he engaged with him, pride will kick in. You know, I believe that about him. I've seen it in time to time.
Starting point is 01:13:36 He's a fucking competitor at his core. He going to compete. I ain't going to say he going to stop. I ain't saying he going to. You might score every trip, but he going to compete he's going to stop. I ain't saying he's going to. You might score every trip, but he's going to compete is what I'm saying. If he's engaged, I've seen it. Put the best guy on the bench, and there is going to be a certain look. Yes.
Starting point is 01:13:56 Having him weak side and having to rotate and help him be the talk guy back there? Yeah. Nah, I'm not going to. I'm not going to. I'd rather have him guard, put him on Kevin Durant, put him on Booker, put him on... See, no one understands that concept.
Starting point is 01:14:12 Like, your best defender is actually supposed to be in the back line pointing and making sure, cleaning up all the mistakes. That's what Drew Holiday was good at for the Bucks.
Starting point is 01:14:30 People didn't understand how good he was, but if you go back and watch them years, if he's guarding Harden, he will leave James Harden to stop a layup. But nobody noticed he's the one who stopped the layup. He's the one who got back on the back, you know, that what's-her-name. So he was preventing a lot of stuff. That's what the help side guy. So if your help side guy is lazy,
Starting point is 01:14:54 that becomes a problem. Because they're preventing a lot of shit. So if my worst defender, I'm going to put him on the ball because now we can protect that. If I have him as a weak side guy, he becomes lazier. He's just sitting there. He's not engaged.
Starting point is 01:15:09 He's not going to rotate, rotate. He's not going to snap back. Now you got that three open, that three. That's what ends up happening. Shouldn't it be easier for him? No, because that's not his thing. That's the most important thing. That's the guide guy.
Starting point is 01:15:19 So if your worst defender is guarding the best player? Yeah, because- Four down. Yeah, get out of the way. But now my best defenders are in tune. He's going to say, yo, go to the elbow. I can help him. If I'm behind him, I can help him. I can tell him which way to push him. I can tell, hey, Gil, run at him.
Starting point is 01:15:46 I got you. Hey, stunt him. We're going to stunt Nick. Brandon, rotate to him. Don't do that. I can control all of that. Right? I can help him.
Starting point is 01:15:56 I can help him. So that's where I can help you. How's your best player, your worst defender? Y'all know, Willie. It happens. It happens. I'm asking you. How? How? How's your best player, your worst defender? It happens. How? How?
Starting point is 01:16:08 How is your best player your worst defender? That's on every team. Your best player don't do everything. Think about it. Just think about it. Your best player, your worst defender. So we're just talking about on each team. I'm talking about accountability.
Starting point is 01:16:24 You guys went through ten minutes of trying to hide a player. Allen Iverson wasn't. You're the worst defender. So we're just talking about each team. I'm talking about accountability of you guys. You guys went through 10 minutes of trying to hide a player. Allen Iverson was Philadelphia's best player for years. And by stat, he was by far their worst. It don't necessarily. No, motherfucker. No, no. Bad defender.
Starting point is 01:16:40 You just said by stat. Bad defender. He played in the passing lane. You just said by stat. Bad defender. You just said by stat. That. I just said by... He played in the passing lane. I just said by... Bad defender. You just said by... That doors. Magic Johnson?
Starting point is 01:16:48 I played on the team with him. Magic Johnson 5. No. Magic Johnson was the worst. Allen Iverson was their best. No, we're talking about championships. But let's... Best player, though.
Starting point is 01:16:56 He said... No, but... Best player. Okay. How's your best player your worst defender? Magic Johnson. He got five championships. He was the worst defender on that team.
Starting point is 01:17:05 Says who? Isaiah Thomas. Says who? Was worst offender on that team. Says who? Isaiah Thomas was the worst offender on that team. Says who? Says who? Look at the rosters. Look at the rosters. I'm asking who said that. Look at the rosters. Statistic. No, I wouldn't say that. I'm telling you. Then who was the worst offender then? On what team? The Lakers.
Starting point is 01:17:23 Who was on the team? Name me the team. What are you saying right now? No, no. The Lakers. Who was on the team? Name the team. Are you saying right now? No, no. The five champions. Cooper. Cooper, you got. Was it Brian Scott?
Starting point is 01:17:33 Brian Scott. You have Kareem. You got Kirk Rambish, James Worthy, right? So we know who the worst defender is on that. And then you have. What are we doing? Then you have Detroit Pistons. I didn't want to go this way.
Starting point is 01:17:47 Detroit Pistons, those two championships. I waited. I was trying to wait my turn so I can land my plane and let y'all niggas... You asked a question. I answered your question. What was the answer? How is it? I gave you an example.
Starting point is 01:18:02 You said Allen Iverson was the worst player. On that team, Eric Snow, McKee, George Lynch, Tyrone Hill, Dikembe Mutombo. Worst defender. He's a championship. And you're saying the reason for that is because why? Because the guys that's around, he's the worst defender. And he's their best player. And he led the league in steals.
Starting point is 01:18:29 And that don't mean nothing. No, it did not. Okay. No, just because he led the league in steals don't mean shit. So my whole point is your best player is the worst defender. And there's no accountability about having him face the fire as a star player to play both sides of the ball. So we don't have to handicap
Starting point is 01:18:46 our fucking game plan so that we have to hide you because you don't want to play and have effort and have accountability on crackdowns and closeouts. Like, I don't understand that because that should be a requirement. It should be a requirement to every single player on the team, not excluding the star player because he gives us X amount
Starting point is 01:19:06 of X amount of X amount of okay worst offender so the labor hold on the worst offenders on the Lakers that year was here to cover up for him in his defense we're trying to put him in scheme so every basketball play any creative eagles huh why not it's the game game requires you in your position to play defense. No, it does not. Dallas Mavericks. Dirk Nowinski was the worst offender. You required what you were good at.
Starting point is 01:19:30 Dirk Nowinski was the worst offender. Right? They won championship. Golden State's five championships. I was about to say. Right. Give me four. Four.
Starting point is 01:19:43 Four. Four championships. Y'all see, I ain't pull up no stat. Denver Nuggets. Jokic. Four, four. Four champs. Y'all see I ain't pull up no stat. Denver Nuggets. I just gave you one scenario. Jame, man. Right? I just gave you one scenario.
Starting point is 01:19:50 No season there. I gave you eight championships. Like, I abandoned that. You know when they was winning. No, I'm talking about I gave you the people. When we won the championship they put Koi on the back plate. Dude, you said people. Yes. Dude. You said Aaron McKee.
Starting point is 01:20:09 Yes, dog. I played it. Aaron McKee was out. Yes. Yes. Luka top three in steals. George Lynch doesn't mean nothing, man. I let the team. I was third in league in steals.
Starting point is 01:20:21 It don't matter. I ain't saying the stat don't matter, and then the thing that matters is the thing you can't back up. You can't back this up and it matters the most. But then it was like, well, he led the league in steals. And he's the worst defender. Yes. Lucas is top three in steals.
Starting point is 01:20:39 Average of 1.9. If you just use the championship teams, it's not a burden. You can't argue if I'm using non-convenient. So was Allen Iverson's what I'm telling so yeah, I never said it wasn't bad I say he wasn't the worst but you but you tried to bring up the fact that he's not the worst But you try to bring it on that team. Yeah, he's not the worst. Yes. He was wasn't the worst defender in the league How can I get his own team? He was number one in the league. So Luke is the worst defender on his team right now? We don't... Alright, so who's the worst...
Starting point is 01:21:09 He said the team, so he's talking about players on the bench too. He's talking about everybody. No, that's not... Who's the worst... Who's the worst defender on this side, on the bad boys teams? Because it's the bad boys, so there's a great and a worst. I be making y'all dig like this.
Starting point is 01:21:25 Not y'all. No, Isaiah Thomas, Joe Dumars, Bill Amir, Adrian Dantley, Dennis Rodman, Rick Mahorn. Who is the worst actual defender there, statistically? The best player. They won two championships. Dallas, we know who the worst defender is on Dallas. They won championships. Golden State, we know who the worst defender was on that team.
Starting point is 01:21:51 That's four championships. Yeah, man. So, yeah, so Luka can be the worst defender on a team and win a championship. As a champion, I've been in that champion locker room. I've seen them scheme ways to get Steph away from players when they were trying to put him in picking roles because he was, they were trying to pick on him. And I seen the schemes we had to put in
Starting point is 01:22:10 to get Steph up out the rotation. So, I don't know. So, they're not supposed to do that, Sean? Amy Wood. I'm asking. Amy Wood. It's called game plan. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:20 I'm asking. You are supposed to do that. If I'm not a player, then you have to do that for me. Okay, me neither. All right. Me neither. That's my answer. I was on the floor with him.
Starting point is 01:22:32 If you're a player, Steph Curry, and I'm good enough to say, Coach, you don't got a fucking scheme for me. I got this. What the fuck do you mean? He can give all the effort. He don't give a man. But it's not about the team. You have to scheme for the team.
Starting point is 01:22:46 You're getting cooked. But, hey, coach, I'm good. Let me get cooked. I'm good. No, no, no, no. And if somebody can't do a better job than me, cool. But I'm accepting the challenge. But you're changing in that.
Starting point is 01:22:59 I'm just saying what you should do. I got a question. I got a question. I'm different. You're just saying what you should do. But I got a question. You made a statement. I got a question. I'm different. You're just saying what you should do. But I got a question. You made a statement. I got a question for you.
Starting point is 01:23:09 Steph is one of the best basketball players we've ever seen, yes or no? Right? In the post, no matter as good as he is and has as much effort as he tries, if he has to guard Kawhi Leonard in the post, he has no chance. He definitely has a chance. Doing what? Holding his ground. No, he does not.
Starting point is 01:23:31 Man, that's going to be 30. We're going to put 30 on the board for Kawhi Leonard. No, he does not. First of all, you know what gives me a chance? What? Foul. That's one. That's one.
Starting point is 01:23:42 And then when you foul again, and now you out the game, and now we know that. It's an unlimited foul. It's changing. Those are not unlimited. And then when you foul again, and now you out the game, and now we know that. It's just changing. You made a statement. Foul again. So now you got to go sit down. So you have to game plan to help Steph in this situation. He's changing the scenario.
Starting point is 01:23:56 If Steph is holding his ground, I don't got to foul. I don't got to foul. Like he said, like what you just said earlier. You said, the nigga doing this, this he's doing it and then he And then he hit the shot if I'm Steph Curry, I got quiet litter on me We notice a mismatch, but I'm a hold my, regardless if I could do anything. If you don't just drop step on him and dunk it, and he makes you shoot a jump hook, who wins? Who wins? If you don't drop step and dunk on him, you bailed him out.
Starting point is 01:24:37 That's all I got to do is step. Hold my ground. Make him shoot a turnaround. I'm playing this way. You're going to guard me like you're going to let me. Are y'all not listening to what he's saying? There's a reality. The reality is this guy
Starting point is 01:24:52 was the worst. These are the realities. The reality was Magic was the worst on the team. The reality is Isaiah Thomas, as great as the team was defensively, as the Goon Squad, as the bad boys pisses, he was the worst on that team. He was the best player. Dallas Mavericks, Dirk was the best player, he was the worst.
Starting point is 01:25:11 Steph was the best player, he was the worst. Right? Those are, Jokic was the worst defender on his team and he was the best player. Those are the facts. Now, what you think they should do, I don't give a fuck what you think they should do. They didn't do that. No, he thinks they should get barbecued. I don't know what I'm saying. I don't care what you think Steph should do in the moment of that and this is what I would do. That is meaningless. Yeah, yeah. We're talking about you made a statement. The statement was the best player on the team is the worst offender and they can't win like that.
Starting point is 01:25:48 And I gave you a whole bunch of teams that fit that criteria. Now changing it to what Steph should do and post up and get this and box out. I don't care because that's not what he did. And they won a championship. That's it. If you want to change it, do you. But don't try to mix this shit in like it's the same thing. Tell him, King, you're the...
Starting point is 01:26:07 Just remember, Bane died... Hey, I'm coming down, King. Brandon, hold your... No, no, hold your own, King, while I'm coming down as a rookie. And, King, shit. All right, King, you got two of those. Hold your own, Brandon. Hold your own, Brandon.
Starting point is 01:26:19 Hold your own. Let him post you up. Who? Hold your own. And Mr. B was coming. No. Who? No, we're saying... I'm sitting on that. He's locked... Wait, what'd you say, King? He's locking that up. Who? Who's your own? If Mr. B was coming. No. Who? I know what you're saying.
Starting point is 01:26:25 I'm sitting on that. He's locking that up. He's locking that up. You sitting on that? I said if he beat through you, the ball's a post. You have no idea, Brandon. You sitting on that? If I'm coming at you full speed rookie year?
Starting point is 01:26:35 Yeah. We must have forgotten. But for one, I've already watched the tape on you. So think about me, right? I'm gonna be prepared for that, right? I'm going to make you do something different. I'm just going to tell you right off the top. Yeah, I think.
Starting point is 01:26:48 Right? You're going to run out. I'm going to make you do something different. This is the opposite. You might get it off, but you're going to do something different. This is the opposite. I'm saying yes. You were fucking really, really fucking good. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:26:57 I'm going to make you do something different. That's all. Because I didn't watch your game. We're about to play because I know we switched picking roles. I know we're coming into the game. We switched picking roles. I'm going to have to guard you at some point. I Didn't watch like four your games
Starting point is 01:27:09 And I don't got this. I need Brandon clips. I need to be I need bogey clips. I need this clear I need so I'm watching four guys clips y'all first top four guys. I'm watching y'all clips so you gonna you might score that bitch, but Hey, that thing is gonna work for it. It's a liquor store. He's a liquor store defender. This is Vando. He's Vando That's black and mild so he thinking from diving on the flows type niggas He's talking about this rah-rah, you know. Can't put yourself in them shoes.
Starting point is 01:27:47 Now, Aimee Ritchie. Find them, they got the liquor store, and bring them on the court, and be like, come on, man, go. Hold your defense, man. Damn, so you want, so hold your own. All right, what's- No, he said hold your own, like, like, like, like.
Starting point is 01:27:59 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. He on the other side, on the other side, if I had him in, listen, that same year, he in the post, oh, he going to yell for dear hell. But no, I'm supposed to hold my own. No, but I'm supposed to hold my own. You got to change it. I'm supposed to hold my own.
Starting point is 01:28:12 You supposed to go try. Hold your own. I'm trying. This nigga doing like this, yo. Fucking barbecue. Let me tell you, listen, real shit. Hey, listen, Kevin, that was really good. I thought they was going to start a balk on me, and they started KD on me.
Starting point is 01:28:24 We ran to play for Mellow and started the game. I said, not a chance, man. Hey, he, Kevin Durant was really good. I thought they was going to start a balk on me, and they started KD on me. We ran to play for Melo and started the game. I said, not a chance, man. Hey, he was a rookie. Hey, man, fuck what he called. Turn four, goddammit. Throw this ball down here. I would have thrown you the ball. Hold you on.
Starting point is 01:28:41 They did that shit to Melo his rookie year against Chase McGrady. Hey, hold you on. With Chauncey. Chauncey did that same thing Mello his rookie year against Chase McGrady. Hey, hold you on. They did that 50 with Chauncey. Chauncey did that same thing to me and Denver. All right, well, let's keep this thing moving. Put you right in that heater. Hold my arm.
Starting point is 01:28:54 Hold your arm. Big shot. Oh, no, yo, big shot. Good luck. Let's cut your pride, all right? Go catch that bitch. Go put that backside on you, nigga, and good luck. What Tim said, put that ass on him.
Starting point is 01:29:07 Put that ass on him. No ditty, no ditty. But let's keep this thing moving. No, listen, big shot in the pole, yeah, absolutely. What you got to say, Bane? Come on. No. I was born in the darkness.
Starting point is 01:29:19 All right, well, let's keep this thing moving. That's when he died, in the dark. He died in the dark. All right, well, let's keep this thing moving. That's when he died in the dark. He died in the dark. Yeah, yeah. Oh, yes, we did die at the end, but didn't we break Batman? He didn't. He broke his soul.
Starting point is 01:29:39 You can tell everybody who the Batman was. All right, let's move to some lighter side on this show quickly. Ain't cold, though. So, Brownie faced a lot of criticism and trolling during his time in the league. To his credit, he mostly remained silent while dealing with it. But during the game against the Nuggets,
Starting point is 01:29:53 Brownie decided to clap back at a heckler in hilarious fashion. Let's take a look. Here's heroes and there's legends. Heroes get remembered, but legends never die. For our expert lib readers, let me point out, Bronnie told the heckler, your chain fake. For reference, here is a photo of the Bronnie heckler and his chain. Yeah, that shit like mama.
Starting point is 01:30:18 Three King, Three King Fam- What the fuck that? Familia? I don't know, man. That is hilarious. Three King feels Three King Fam- What the fuck that mean? Familia? I don't know man, that is hilarious. Three King feels like a Denver- That is hilarious man. Man, what is in the middle? For any of our Denver locals-
Starting point is 01:30:32 The MGM Grand Chain? MGM Grand Chain, okay. Yo, Chain Fake, good to see Bronny clapping back. Three King Family. I think Mr. B, you said this in the group chat if I'm not mistaken. Yeah man. I know it moved you in a certain way. Yeah, it's just funny.
Starting point is 01:30:46 It's about time, right? It's about time. Marius still announcing, during the game, I hit a big three-over, Joker. I want to see more of this, man. I want to see more of Ronnie talking back, man. You know what makes it funny because it's just... Out of everything he said, he just noticed it. It's just like...
Starting point is 01:31:11 I'm going to just tuck my eyes in. Very large change. You know what? No matter if he... I hope he didn't have a girl with him. He had already noticed it. I know that. He had already noticed it.
Starting point is 01:31:22 So for him to have that quick response, he's like, let him say one more thing. I'm going to get it. I know that. He'd already noticed it. So for him to have that quick response, he's like, let me say one more thing. I'm going to get it. One more word. And the way he said, yo, Jay. You know, the people next to him was looking at the shade and shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:38 Don't let them have the work with them, girl. Not the work with them. I thought you said it was real. Oh, man. Ronnie, to be able to see that from such a far distance, I already know. And he was loud with it, too. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:49 Ronnie was like, yeah, yo, yo. That was funny. Now, you all have dealt with hecklers, I'm sure, during your time in the league and even post-career. As Gil's Arena has continued to expand, getting close to a million subscribers, what's the best clapback you have for a heckler? I don't know. Compared to that, it's not corny.
Starting point is 01:32:09 I've been calling him a broke boy. Yeah, yeah, that's usually. Y'all remember the chick, so y'all probably don't remember. You remember the chick in Philly that used to sit behind the bench? Yeah. She used to have the board. She used to write stuff on the board. She'd sit behind the... She was in Philly.
Starting point is 01:32:28 The fuck was I doing on the bench? No, no, she used to sit behind the scores table. Right when you check in at the scores table. She used to sit, her seats were right behind the scores table. And she used to write shit about all of us on the board and show you. You don't even remember that? And she said something about,
Starting point is 01:32:43 I think she said something about... Yeah, but she was a not a, You don't remember that? And she said something about it. I think she said something about it. But she was a not a, but for one, what I'm getting at is she was far from attractive. Like... And your beauty is on the inside. No, fuck that. But it used to be funny shit. But ugly is to the...
Starting point is 01:33:00 But she said, she wrote something on that motherfucker about me and I was like, how ugly are you? Damn. Just, hey. Dead ass. But she said she wrote someone that mother about me and I was like how ugly are you? You know just hey Deadass She raised that shit fast. Yeah. Yeah something else to those Like no shoes. Yeah, she's the fuck She's to sit right behind the scores table something she was the right show these little boys. Yeah boys about this big Yeah boy about this big she's to sit behind the the scoring table. She was the right shit on this little boy's head. The boy was about this big. The boy was about this big. She was sitting behind the scoring table, right shit.
Starting point is 01:33:29 How do you remember your first buck in the NBA? You don't remember this because I'm pretty sure she said something about you. See, the way my minutes were, right? You checked in, right? Yeah, yeah. No, no. You started the game? Yeah, I started the game. So she was there. When you went to go, when we pulled the motherfucking sticky shit off and did that shit
Starting point is 01:33:50 She was right the fuck there right behind the announcers, right? But you don't remember so we're not gonna All right, she's a traveler if it was listen, I'm pretty sure cuz she used to come to Jersey's came New York She's like that little Metroplex. She made all of them games. Oh, so she was a good fan? Oh, great Philly fan. Okay, all right, all right. Oh yeah, she was the fucking, yeah. Man, I gotta go back and watch some games and see. She was right behind us, yeah. I mean, you'll notice her because you gotta sub in all the time.
Starting point is 01:34:13 Oh shit. Get under that shirt. Nick, get in. Then you gotta walk all the way over there. You got time, you gotta walk. And then you got time to look before there's a. Get in, I just. How you want it? Usually it was like, usually it was like, go.
Starting point is 01:34:27 So I went from the bench to the court. I ain't really go to the scores, but like, you know how you like sit on the floor and you be waiting like two, three minutes
Starting point is 01:34:33 and shit like that and you know, talking to the ball key, got to take your jersey off, give it to him, he's sitting there with you and shit. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:34:38 I never really had that experience. You didn't? You didn't. You just couldn't take it. You just couldn't take it when it happened to you. You know, you couldn't take it. No, I was this.
Starting point is 01:34:47 It happened. This was me. God damn it, time out! Come over here. Gil, get in for Nick. You remember that. I thought you was talking to somebody. Yeah, I swear.
Starting point is 01:34:57 That's how it works, right? Y'all fucking up out there, and then they call the time out, and then when you get to the bench, your ass got subbed out, so now you got to stand up. Remember in Memphis when you played for Memphis? And we came back. You remember that feeling. When they subbed your ass in and subbed you right back out?
Starting point is 01:35:13 You just couldn't take Ben to court. I wasn't mentally that. I don't remember nothing. You know how that is. Those days, those days I don't remember. I don't recall. I don't remember no days, either. I don't remember.
Starting point is 01:35:21 I don't recall. I wouldn't wanna do that. The Memphis-Orlando, nah, I don't remember. I don't remember. I don't remember. I don't remember. I don't recall. I don't remember those days, either. I don't recall. The Memphis-Orlando. No, I don't remember none of that. Funny shit I heard of Martina.
Starting point is 01:35:34 Like, Papi was the heck of Melo. And Melo, Melo, you ain't that good. You don't believe that? I believe it. There's some funny people out there. You don't believe that? Like, come on, let's stop this. Right? My average is 28. Like, come on, let's stop this. Right?
Starting point is 01:35:46 My average is 28. Like, really? Really good. So speaking of getting buckets. No one talk trash? Yeah, girl just like throw panties at me and shit. I was like, damn. I don't want to talk trash.
Starting point is 01:35:59 I don't want to say nothing black. I'm talking trash. No, that's what I'm saying. Nobody never said that. Who threw panties at you, Nick? No, panty. Panties? Yeah, I never had no hecklers and stuff. My shit is like fun stuff.
Starting point is 01:36:08 Somebody threw panties at you at an NBA game? Yeah, it was like a bunch of work just came in. All you just seen, a bunch of panties on the floor. They had to cut the game and shit. I'm like, man, cut the game. I thought it was the finger phones, but it was just draws falling out the air. I got real-time hecklers, though.
Starting point is 01:36:26 Like, right now, hecklers. You have people that heckle you right now? Yeah. On the streets? On the Internet. They follow you and heckle you? On the Internet. Being spirited?
Starting point is 01:36:38 No. See, Conor, you described a little bit of it. No, I just had the memes. You described a little bit of it, No, I just had the memes. You described a little bit of it, but I was like, I'm not gonna say that's what it is, but my boys keep heckling and poking the bear, man. I'll be understanding it. I'll just be chilling in my bubble.
Starting point is 01:36:56 I got heckled when that meme came out. You gotta pop out. Everybody's... Nah, because when I pop out, everybody gets strays. I don't be liking that. I don't like strays because there ain't no snap. Everybody's not because not pop out everybody gets trace Man I don't like strays cuz and they know snap he snapped We're gonna like in the heckles as we they be trying to poke poke poke me we're gonna talk about crash now Just about I'm saying it's okay relax
Starting point is 01:37:25 You said you never had a heckler. I did. I said when my name came out... No, I'm talking about why you were playing. No, I'm talking about why you were playing. You didn't have any hecklers. You said it. Man, I had hecklers all the way up to the championship, even when I won it. The championship? It was, I was holding a champion
Starting point is 01:37:39 and still getting heckled by you. Like, you, like, you had to be a champion every day. No, I'm just saying, you didn't really have any hecklers during your career. Yeah, every day of my life, yeah. You was one of the biggest ones. No, I'm talking about in the NBA. Like, you hopped on my feet
Starting point is 01:37:52 and heckled me. No, I'm talking about when you, no, we're talking about NBA, when you was in a game that really nobody heckled you. Yeah, you know when, like, when they traded you and started me because I took your point?
Starting point is 01:38:02 Yeah, where was the hecklers? There was a bunch of hecklers because they was like, damn, how you do gear like that? You better than that. I was like, man, I don't know. I don't know what to say. I don't think he was,
Starting point is 01:38:11 I don't think he got to that level where there was heckles. Yeah, I played like 34 a night. Yeah, he didn't reach it. 34? 34? That's all y'all played? But it's cool. You probably had heckles in the...
Starting point is 01:38:22 That's all y'all played? That's all y'all played? 34? No, you had a lot of heckles. You was balling. Have you won? Yeah. Won some games?
Starting point is 01:38:30 Won what? Champion. Oh, you went. You got it. You tasted it, but you didn't eat the whole meal. You didn't eat the whole meal. Neither did you. Yes, I did.
Starting point is 01:38:38 Neither did you. Shit, you crazy. They brought you to the table and made you watch everybody else eat. What? Brought you to the table made you We'll sit in front He's going around
Starting point is 01:38:52 Skip him One two right so it's like Katie Katie clay Curry it's you three plus. How many? Plus one two three four five, four, five, six. There's 12 more of us. I'm like, all right. You, you, you. You got it.
Starting point is 01:39:09 You know me. He with you? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He has to go. Dude got his hand and chest like this. Where you going? That's it. He went up.
Starting point is 01:39:17 He went up. Yo, yo. Pay me that ring. That's what I said. That's mine, too. That's mine, too. Yeah. But when you did it, what happened?
Starting point is 01:39:25 They just gave you the one. They retired when they was trying to do it. They made extra. That's why your ring fell off that day, because it don't fit. Right? They gave you the extra one, right? How you ever felt the ring?
Starting point is 01:39:34 I've never, no. All right, then. Y'all can shut the fuck up then. All these fucking losers. A bunch of losers talk. I ain't never heard a bunch of losers talk about a nigga that wanted it. They gave him the ring.
Starting point is 01:39:45 So, listen, you go get him growing his gear. And they gave him the spot. They go get the name put on it. That's all it is. Sigma 50. A bunch of losers sitting here talking about a winner. I don't want them to be doing things like that. And they gave him the joint with the ring to go spot to go get his name put on it.
Starting point is 01:39:59 That's what they give you. Listen, here's the spot to go get your name put on it. Maybe if you would have fell in line, you would have won too, motherfucker. Learn how to lose. You got to learn how to play football. No, I was still on the team. Actually, I wasn't, I didn't ride the bench. And that's why you lost. I didn't ride the bench.
Starting point is 01:40:10 I played a lot. So when you got there again, you should have learned to play like you should have took my roll. I was able to play and fail. You should have took my roll. I'd rather play and fail. You should have took my roll. Hey, hey, hey. Hey, I'd rather play and fail.
Starting point is 01:40:20 Aw, man. I'd rather go three for 23. I think that law's going to tell you what you should have done. I went there twice. I ain't never seen any of that law tell me what to do. I'd rather go three for 23. I ain't never seen a nigga that long tell me what to do. I'd rather play and fail than not play at all. I'd rather succeed than fail.
Starting point is 01:40:33 I'd rather succeed than fail. I don't want to be nobody else's burden. I want to go out and hoop. Somebody's burden here and there. I'd rather succeed than fail. Speaking of succeeding, go ahead and download the Underdog app. Use the promo code
Starting point is 01:40:46 to get a $1,000 bonus cash plus a special pick-em. All right, so let's talk a little SGA. SGA been balling out in his quest to win his first MVP with a Thunder
Starting point is 01:40:54 and a comfortable lead in the West. SGA dropped 31 points in a win over the Bucs Sunday, but let's go back to the Thunder's game against the Pistons on Saturday.
Starting point is 01:41:01 Take a look at some highlights. The Detroit Pistons. Detroit, if you will, one of your favorite cities. This move he did. Let's Take a look at some highlights. The Detroit Pistons, Detroit if you will, Gil, one of your favorite cities. This move he did. Let's take a look.
Starting point is 01:41:08 SJ had another dominant performance, finishing with 48 points, six assists, four rebounds, and three steals, shooting 17 for 26 from the field. Kacen Wallace added 20 points, five rebounds, and three steals for OKC, who were without Jaylen Williams and Chet Holmgren, also known as Chet Hologram on this program.
Starting point is 01:41:24 Kay Cunningham had 11.7 boards and nine dimes before getting ejected in the third quarter for arguing with an official. We'll have more on that in just a moment. Tobias Harris had 18-7 boards. Schroeder and Malik Beasley came off the bench. Both had 17-15 respectively.
Starting point is 01:41:39 This was a frustrating game for the Pistons. As I mentioned, we'll have more on that in a moment, but let's talk SGA first. This was SGA's fourth game with at least 40 points in March. So far this month, he's averaging 38 points, 7 assists, 4 rebounds in 8 games. There we see Cade getting ejected for cursing at a ref using profanity, which apparently does not happen in NBA games often. Normally my manner. Didn't matter anyway games often. Normally, my man.
Starting point is 01:42:06 Didn't matter anyway, though. Oh, yeah, you got the wrong color. Yeah, yeah. Wrong color. What? What are you doing? Pass the fucking ball. Nah.
Starting point is 01:42:14 Not when you feel it, man. Ooh, no. That's good. Oh, my god. Too fast for him, son. Oh, shit. Touching earth as a young kid, son. That speed don't work.
Starting point is 01:42:23 Oh. Hey, hey. Dang. That's what I'm, sir. There you go. That speed don't work. Oh! Hey, hey! Dang! That's what I'm talking about. To them, give me that. I'm with all of them. You two? You two? The other one? The three? Nah, the rest of them motherfuckers really, yeah, absolutely. Like I mentioned, SGA, four games with at least 40 points. And Mark Bleed had a 51-point game as well.
Starting point is 01:42:41 So far this month, he's averaging 38, 7 assists, 4 rebounds in 8 games. Thunder holding a 13-game lead in the Western Conference. That was great. So we don't, obviously, there's still a ton of season left to be played, but has SGA already locked up the MVP trophy? I think he's turned it on in March. Seen with Joker.
Starting point is 01:42:59 Is Luka out? I mean, not Luka, but he'll get this done? I mean, pool parties. I mean, he's performing still, but Nuggets. Mm. It's a great race, man. No threat. Great race.
Starting point is 01:43:11 It's a good race. Sound like a hater. Who? Your feet don't fit no limb? It's a great race. Yeah, you ain't gonna lie. The boy is hooping. Is this the closest?
Starting point is 01:43:21 The boy is having a hell of a time. Come on, man. He's had like over like 60. These last two years, is this kind of like the closest? No. Is this kind of like the closest these last two years? No, Embiid was last year. Giannis, that one? It seems like SGA, like you guys mentioned a couple weeks ago,
Starting point is 01:43:41 has to have these games that really raise awareness, help create a little distance. Nugget struggled against a shorthanded Lakers squad, ended up getting pool partied in their next game against the Wizards. They lost to the Wizards? Mm. Boy, the boys hooping, man. It's a great race.
Starting point is 01:44:00 It's a great race, I'll tell you that much. It's fun to watch. He's hooping like a mother. Is he creating some separation? I want to say, have you already locked it up? No, ain't no separation. Never got his average. I'll tell you that much. It's fun to watch. He's hooping like a motherfucker. Is he creating some separation? I want to say he's already locked it up. No, there's no separation. He never got his average triple-dub. No, there's no separation. Another game like that.
Starting point is 01:44:10 There ain't no separation. But he hooping, though. He's fucking hooping. He tried, don't they? He is out here playing fucking great basketball. Yes. He's balling, but... Another game like that?
Starting point is 01:44:20 No. How many games over 20 have you had this year? Like, consecutive? Still got games left to play. I see public opinion being the main reason why Shea is going to stay in the front of the race, because of all the nuances that are going to occur if he wins and all that shit that happens. But if it wasn't for the public opinion of it all and how everyone's swaying everyone,
Starting point is 01:44:44 like Kendrick Perkins was swaying the vote. When you start to do that and everybody who don't think for themselves start to just join the conversation. They start to call other people and get their... Who you would... the group think. You know what I'm saying? So in that realm, Shea could win it. Shea could very much because it would be good for the league. Going against that,
Starting point is 01:45:06 being bad would be the perception that the league would look and be like, oh, he gave it to him two years in a row, all that shit. So it's good for the league if you give it to Shea because the public wants it. The public wants it. But we know as Hooper is triple-double and a big man doing all the shit he's doing historically, he definitely deserves this. But for the public, it's like putting the right president in office at the right time. You got to be able to put the dude that's got the moment. So you're talking about public perception, and I will give you that.
Starting point is 01:45:32 But Kenyon, as you pointed out, Western Conference, the varsity, right? Eastern Conference, the JV, and your estimation said it earlier in the show. Well, most teams. There's a couple teams that fit the varsity standard in the Eastern Conference. Thunder with 13-game lead,ed up in the playoff spot. It's not even... What's... Okay, it all depends on what criteria
Starting point is 01:45:54 they're using. Are they using the Jokic criteria? Or they're using the regular NBA criteria, winning percentage, what you're doing for your team. Right? So if they use the criteria that they used last year for Jokic, it's the Jokic rule, right? It's the only time they deviate from normal. If they use the Jokic rule, that they use Jokic versus Luka, right,
Starting point is 01:46:22 who's putting up the same numbers he's putting up now, team is in the same place, and you use winning percentage in that, then it should go to Shea over Jokic. And how Jokic went over them two last year. It's the same metrics, right? Shea has a higher winning percentage for his team. That's
Starting point is 01:46:40 what they usually use, plus the production puts him ahead. If he win it, I'm gonna be hi, but my cold will win it. I'm gonna be like Not gonna be surprised They both are deserving the way they're playing I would throw Giannis in a conversation of course what he's doing but The guys are playing great basketball for their respective teams. Shea's had over how many games with 20 points? I think every single one besides one.
Starting point is 01:47:17 Like 60. So we're telling Shea to score more and rebound? No. If he loses. No, what I'm saying is. No, say Shea to score more and rebound? No, it's... What I'm saying... If he loses... No, what I'm saying is... No, say Shea loses. You're telling them nothing.
Starting point is 01:47:31 You're literally changing the criteria. That's what I'm saying. So you're telling them... What they've been doing. Not to worry about being number one, worry about stats. So don't care about winning and worry about stats. I don't know what they're telling them, but what they're doing is... It's basically like average 40.
Starting point is 01:47:45 No, they're literally changing it every... Average 30 last year didn't win, so it doesn't matter. So... Go average 35, I guess. Average 38 and 7 this month, they're winning games too, so that's not... But I'm saying are they telling him... We're not telling him nothing. We don't know yet.
Starting point is 01:48:01 I know, but I'm just saying he loses. I'm saying if. i know y'all don't like to use if but if he loses what do you tell this person that's next year the same shit we tell jason tatum keep fucking winning go lead your team there's nothing you can tell him there's a guy over playing well there's nothing that you can do different yeah so you're telling him to get a triple double there's nothing you can do different as he he's not capable what do you tell everybody that was playing with are you telling can do different as he's not capable. What do you tell everybody that was playing with Will? Will Chamberlain
Starting point is 01:48:27 playing back then, right? What are you telling the other guys when he's getting the numbers he's getting? What are you like what are you telling Elgin Baylor and them like don't go out and try to win a championship and play that to your capacity? Like it's still go play.
Starting point is 01:48:44 Joker don't have promotion for MVP. He just go in there and he do it. When you look at Joker, you say, man, that big motherfucker has been the league MVP. He's been the league MVP of this shit. You walk in the gym, you be like,
Starting point is 01:49:00 yeah, that's the MVP right there. Now, if Shea don't never beat the MVP and win the championship, it's just an empty conversation of like, every time you walk in, it's me MVP right there. Now, if Shea don't never beat the MVP and win the championship, it's just an empty conversation of like, every time you walk in, it's me and you. I'm better. So you got to be the champion to win MVP?
Starting point is 01:49:14 No, I'm saying that conversation changes when you walk in the room and you're a champion and you hadn't won the MVP yet. And it's like, you're no longer the biggest dog in the room as Joker. Like next time this conversation comes back around and I win a chip, I'm definitely going to win that chip. I can win that MVP this time. No, but I'm the big dog, yeah.
Starting point is 01:49:37 I mean, listen. Because there's one MVP. If you don't win MVP, just keep playing. Go win a ring. There's somebody better. There's somebody better. That's all that means is that somebody's better. It's a... The problem is this. Because there's no criteria
Starting point is 01:49:52 that he's better. There's no criteria that we can follow for... That's what I'm trying to say. So it doesn't matter. It's no different than they say, alright, this club requires no hats, this, this, this, right? There's always a motherfucker in there, right, that they're going to move the goalposts for.
Starting point is 01:50:11 And that's what they do for Jokic's staff. They're going to move it for him, right? So this year, it depends if they want to move it or keep it like they've been doing it in the past. So Kenyon comes up here and he's like, I don't like those. Come on in. It's dress shoes. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:50:35 That's what it is. We can't sit here and try to figure out why they're moving the goalposts, how they want to move the goalposts. We're not the ones that's voting. To be consistent is a very inconsistent award. Yeah, well, we had a guy on the couch that just already admitted who he's voting for. And the season's not over yet. Brandon, to your point, SGA, 62 straight games with 20-plus points. 62 games.
Starting point is 01:51:04 All right, well, let's shift it over because we're going to keep talking this MVP for the rest of the season. But let's talk about the other side on the Pistons. He should win it. So in his first season in Detroit, J.B. Bickerstaff has helped turn the Pistons franchise around with their 37 wins already, amounting to six more wins than the previous two seasons combined. Some questionable calls throughout the game on Saturday against the Thunder,
Starting point is 01:51:25 including Kay Cunningham getting ejected in the third quarter for getting into it with the official and using too much profanity, according to the pool report. So after the game, Bickerstaff said enough was enough, crashed out on the officiating crew for what he deemed some extreme disrespect towards him and his squad. Disgusted by the way that game was officiated. The level of disrespect was above and beyond. They have a guy fall down and trip on his own teammate's foot. They review us for a hostile act.
Starting point is 01:51:53 They throw an elbow to our chest, neck area. I asked for him, at least take a look at it, right? Just show us the respect to take a look at it, okay? No one would take a look at it, okay? The disrespect has gone far enough, and I'm not gonna allow our guys to be treated the way that they were treated tonight, okay?
Starting point is 01:52:10 I tried to have a conversation with the official. The official was arguing with Mark. I say his name one time, and he screams at me and tells me that's enough, right? We understand that we play a style of ball that's physical.
Starting point is 01:52:24 It's on the edge, right? I coach my ass off with a passionate way. I'm into the games. Our players are into the games. We understand that, right? But we deserve a level of respect because we're competing our tails off and bringing something positive to this league, right? We're growing young players. Our young players are competing their tail off. The least that they could do is get the same respect that everybody else in this league gets and get refereed the same way that everybody else in this league gets reffed.
Starting point is 01:52:52 And enough is enough of it. And what you saw tonight was disgusting. It was a disgusting display of disrespect towards our guys and what we're trying to do. There you go. Should have flipped the table over. You mother...
Starting point is 01:53:12 It's only one. No, the table. I had my money on Detroit when it first ran. Pistons currently sixth seed in the East. Do you understand J.B. Bickerstaff's frustration with the lack of respect that the Pistons are getting? Like you said, they play a physical style, but it's a new and improved squad.
Starting point is 01:53:32 He's changed the culture around there. It wasn't the first coach to complain after they played OKC. And that has been a consistent theme this season? Because this is a team that's playing a different style that the referee's got to get used to, and you're talking about a team that no one respected last year in, you know, a couple years, right? Just, oh, here they come, and you're not giving...
Starting point is 01:54:00 No matter what they're saying, you ain't giving a shit, right? What happened that next year with your New Jersey team? Because y'all became a different team, right? More aggressive and stuff. Were they penalizing you guys early? Like, did you have to earn the referee's respect? Because that was a turnaround, not quite like, but you know what I'm saying, you're using different.
Starting point is 01:54:28 Yeah, no, it was similar, No, it was similar, yeah. The fact that we had J.K. helped. Because if it was me leading or one of us, somebody different, I think it would have been, but the fact that he had that rapport already with the refs and being around and being first all NBA year in, year out, I think that helped how they officiated me. I still, at times, of course, but he helped. So, but I think if they had a bigger name in that situation, not just the coach vouching for them,
Starting point is 01:54:55 I think it would help. So, basically, this is where Cade has to really take his emotions out of it to be able to talk to the refs. Yeah, he has to be the mediator because of how they play. Okay. I mean, if you watch Cade getting ejected, I didn't personally think. But you don't know what he said, though. We can hear a little of the air, man.
Starting point is 01:55:13 But you don't know what he said, though. I know, yeah. And they get frustrated. But, you know, he's a star player. He should have more leeway. I know people are going to hate it. There's more leeway for guys the stars Just what it is. Trust me. I fucking hated it and guys that said shit
Starting point is 01:55:30 This is what it is. So He hasn't he hasn't earned it yet from the ref so he ain't been around yet the team has been in the basement He ain't won no first team all in those that so is that so it's that respect level That they still look at him as a kid. I ain't going to let this fucking kid talk to me this way. So they take it personal. I believe it. I think you've got to give them some more time.
Starting point is 01:55:55 I mean, you know, they got the attention of everybody right now. But as far as the year they have, they're having a good year. But I'd give it another year or two for the refs, everybody to respect them, to see how they play against, they'll probably match up with the Knicks. That'd be a good test for them. But the way they play, you know, it's very physical, but you know. When did the bullies start crying so much? Ain't they the bully? Don't they bully people? Ain't got enough of that chase people through hallways and shit. A Jamaican.
Starting point is 01:56:25 They get penalized for bullying. No, continue it. Like, double down on it. Yeah, they're still young. But you still don't want to feel like, okay, but you don't still feel like a motherfucker cheating you out here, though, do you? Yeah. It's hard to feel like that when you're...
Starting point is 01:56:43 How? So you feel like you're being cheated? Hey, hey, I don't have... So you feel like you're being cheated? I actually agree with you. Because you play a certain way? I actually agree with you. It's like... Because you play basketball a certain way, you want to feel like you're being cheated?
Starting point is 01:56:51 They ain't going to say, man, y'all feel sorry for me, man. No, ain't nobody going to ask you to feel sorry for me. No, what the fuck? He's begging for like... No, ain't no... My people... If my... If Kane get fouled, call the same foul that you calling for Shea.
Starting point is 01:57:04 Who said that? That's all. They ain't got shit's all. But there's no consequences for your hard fouls and your hard, aggressive defense other than the referees. But blow the whistle the same way, though, because we're getting the same guys up. But it's always that one team that has, you know. That's why I get what you're saying. Because the reputation for the refs is they think they can do anything they want to do.
Starting point is 01:57:25 They can just be bullies of the league. So the Pistons play basketball like I play basketball, right? How many picks? My thing is, I just don't want to feel like you fucking cheating me. That's all. If I did something, call it. If they just don't feel like you fucking cheating me out here, that's all. But think about it.
Starting point is 01:57:43 If the refs allow you to beat us up, we feel cheated. Yeah. Because you let him hit me with that type of elbow. They calling it, though. But they're calling it. They're calling it. And you getting mad because you calling it. No, no, I'm not.
Starting point is 01:57:55 You getting mad because you out-fucking me. If I hit you, they calling it. I don't get mad. They calling it. He's hitting you. They're calling it for you. You're hitting them back. They're not calling it.
Starting point is 01:58:01 Think about this. That's all. What happened with the Warriors? Steph Curry and Isaiah Stewart had an encounter. And what happened? Steph was sitting there like, what you on, man? Why you on this with me? After that, this happens.
Starting point is 01:58:14 Send you a little message. Don't you fuck with Steph and them. You fucking around with the wrong guys. You're doing shit. Y'all get too much bullet. Chill. Relax. No, it's the same dude who ran after Bron and them.
Starting point is 01:58:24 They wasn't tripping. They wasn't tripping. They wasn't tripping. It's the second time, then, huh? This is usually going to do two of our faces in the league. You don't try to chase them down and knock them out. You don't think we're going to fuck with y'all like that? Nah. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:58:40 Respect. Nah, I can see the frustration. But if you know, like, I always have this thing with the refs. Like the refs, you don't have no emotions inside this game. Your job is to really just manage it from getting out of hand. You know one team is, you know, they play a little bit rougher, right? So you still got to manage it equally, in a sense. But to give one team five technical fouls because they're complaining, that doesn't affect you and your judgment.
Starting point is 01:59:12 You just are just what? Trying to prove a point. Trying to prove a point. That I'm in charge out here. You can prove a point by still just doing you. We're already mad that you're proving a point. But for you to just sit there and say, well, fuck you, get a point.
Starting point is 01:59:27 Well, fuck you, get another point. That's five points I'm just giving him. Don't do that point in the league. You're kicking out the best player. You're kicking out the guy who is the engine of this team. You can actually talk to him and say, hey, K,
Starting point is 01:59:45 can you control this? If you can't control this, I'm going to just start kicking these motherfuckers out. It's easier to say to him and he's going to be like, all right, versus just toss, toss.
Starting point is 01:59:54 They're going to talk to J.K. Listen, hey, J.K., hey, go talk to him. Hey, get K under control and we're going to boot that guy. Go talk to him. That's J.K. But still,
Starting point is 02:00:02 he is that for that team. You are the, K is J.K. for that team. No, the, you are the Jake here for that team. No, but you, no, no. They got five K-marks. They got four K-marks. I can talk to you. They got one.
Starting point is 02:00:11 They got one. They got one. Kade. Hey, I see y'all, y'all over here. I already gave you one, Ted. Come on, man. Control this shit or we just going to boot all y'all. Kade understands the concept because he is the star.
Starting point is 02:00:22 Like, all right. Hey, yo, hey, look. Hey, come on, dog. Let's just keep this shit down. You're not even giving him a chance to be a leader, in a sense. You're just like, boom, boom. What the fuck that do the rest of everybody like? Oh, that's the shit y'all on?
Starting point is 02:00:33 All right, so we can't win now. Let's just fuck these niggas up. That's real demon time, my friend. Think about when Steph is not playing. So what's going to happen in the playoffs? Against the Knicks, it's going to happen in the playoffs? You know what I'm saying? Think about when Steph's not playing. What's going to happen? Because against the Knicks, it's going to get worse than whatever he saw today. I mean the other night.
Starting point is 02:00:50 Whatever he saw the other night, it's going to get worse than the playoffs against the Knicks. But I'm just saying, as a referee, you have to be, like when you can't control Dennis Rodman, you talk to Michael Jordan to do that. But if Michael Jordan's messing me up, too. Yeah, and shit every day. Yeah, Phil but if Michael Jordan We don't know what Kay said to them it's we don't
Starting point is 02:01:13 I've been on the team with the most mild I know but you know the rest now, you know the rest of way more come on do some competitive, right? Chance the builders were one of the most mild mannered people you would ever be He gets frustrated it becomes that boiling point like damn, damn, big shot, what you say? He didn't kick big shot at the game. Like, damn, what you say to him? Like, I ain't saying it's a regular thing, but it happens. Those guys, we know it historically, they get more leeway. When you're the man on the team, you really got to go out your way
Starting point is 02:01:45 for them to kick you out of the game when you're their best player. Like, if you're a ref, and let's say Steph Curry got so frustrated that he's cussing at me, I'm not giving Steph Curry a technical foul. If I do, I'm not giving him two. I'm not kicking Steph Curry. Like, we know his mannerisms. I'm not giving him two. I'm not kicking Steph Curry. We know his mannerisms. So the fact that he did get this frustrated means shit.
Starting point is 02:02:11 I'm missing a lot of shit out here. So I'm going to give him rope that I won't give Draymond Green. He earned me to listen to him. Wait, you missed or maybe he just came back in. Maybe he just locked in his mouth. We all know that we take the extra step when we're trying to listen to him. Wait, you missed? Or maybe he just came back in. Maybe he just locked in his last time. But we all know that we take the extra step when we're trying to prove a point.
Starting point is 02:02:29 Yes. So if you are the best player and you're trying to get the refs to sway our side and this is the game is out of reach and you're like, man, if the coach don't take it on himself, usually the coach does, he gets the boot. But JB Biggerstuff got attacked too. It was a close game though. That's what I'm saying. Watching the clip, Cade cussed a little bit. But think about Cade, he gets the boot. But JB Biggerstuff got attacked, too. It was a close game, though. That's what I'm saying. Watching the clip, Cade cussed a little bit.
Starting point is 02:02:47 But think about Cade. He's the leader. But actually made the right argument. He's the leader. If anybody gets kicked out to get the game out of reach, it should be the leader, where he actually goes to the ref, says what he says, everyone sees it. Now, the league can review the fact that the ref is disrespecting the leader, that the leader went to talk and you didn't want to talk and you just booted him.
Starting point is 02:03:05 I think he did everything he was supposed to do, especially as the leader of the team. It's the ref overreacting or I said enough because I wanted to get fucking kicked. True. I really was trying to send a message
Starting point is 02:03:16 to this nigga like, man, fuck that. It was a female, too. Certain words, other words, hit worse, more. It wasn't a female. No, it was a dude, but the female was next to him.
Starting point is 02:03:25 Yeah, it was next to him. But the dude kicked him out. The dude kicked him out. But he probably kicked him out. He probably said something like... No, he said some shit. You said it to him. He said some shit.
Starting point is 02:03:33 And he wanted him to hear it. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, motherfucker, that's some bullshit. Like, you give him one, then you walk away. That's what most good refs would do. Good refs. Unless you say some real fuck shit. He's like, man, not only that, but get your ass out of here.
Starting point is 02:03:49 Most of them give one and walk away. And if most of them give one and walk away, you come try to talk to them, they tell you right now, right now. How many trips are we talking? We're talking if I'm still mad at four trips ago, and I keep talking about like man you're terrible tonight Yeah, you gotta go. You are terrible. Yeah, you still talking about that, but yes Terrible but you're a moat but that's as a referee I Understand that because you're in an environment that's causing that. But you're telling him to let it go. Yeah, let it go. You're like, let that shit go.
Starting point is 02:04:26 Two trips ago. But. And you steal. Yeah, you know why? You know why? You get the ball, you do something, then you foul. And you don't get the call. So you're not letting it go.
Starting point is 02:04:38 That's the human part of it. If you're going to beat a referee with a whistle, with the power in your hand, then you need to know who everyone is and the tendencies. So if you're not letting some shit go, then you come out there and you motherfuckin' get clotheslined and I miss it, I know what the fuck you're about to do. I'm not listening. I'll be like, oh, here, here, this nigga go.
Starting point is 02:04:57 But that's the pass. That's the free pass. You got to remember, I let you get clotheslined for them to give you a technical. Come on. Yeah, forgive me. Because you can't hear someone. I let you get clothesline for then to give you a technical come on Yes, because you can't you can't hear somebody got the play you can't you can't hear so I did bitch all day What happened? Who cares I mean, I don't know play before but what I'm knowing is like so there's a foul called It was a trip. I think Lou door got tripped by his own teammate. There was another foul on the play
Starting point is 02:05:24 They ended up reviewing that play. I think, initially as a hostile act. Called it a common foul. They went down. Thunder went down to shoot free throws. I believe the alignment was wrong. So Kay pointed that out to the official using a little bit of profanity. But was actually right in that situation. Got hit with the first tech.
Starting point is 02:05:38 If a player is using profanity as a human being, I could be like, all right. He's the captain of the team, so he's supposed to talk to you. The player was actually right. The ref was wrong at that moment. The player was right. The ref was wrong. So now, instead of the ref admitting or saying, all right, my bad, I fucked up.
Starting point is 02:05:57 That calms everything down. No, you decide to give him a tech. Once he gets the first tech, obviously he's going to keep talking. So then you just give him a tech. You gave him two. But when did they realize he was wrong? The, obviously he's going to keep talking. So then you just give him a tech. You gave him two. But when did they realize he was wrong? The ref realized he was wrong after the techs?
Starting point is 02:06:09 I believe after. I think the ref realized he was wrong, but K kept chirping a little bit. I think got the first tech then, obviously. He kept reminding. He was reminding him that he was up to call. He got a tech. Bigger step, got a tech. Boom, boom, boom.
Starting point is 02:06:21 But man, as you- You give me a tech for nothing? And y'all performing bad the whole night. They already mad at all of us. You wrong, and you give me a tech, or I'm not going to shut up. Yeah, and you playing bad tonight. You playing bad. Yeah, you wrong, and you give me a tech.
Starting point is 02:06:31 I'm not going to shut up. You might as well get another one. It's my time. You got to go ahead and send me to the house. Go ahead and give me another one so I can get on out of here. You might as well get another one. Let me get up out of here. I'm about to knock.
Starting point is 02:06:37 Go ahead. Let me get up out of here. And I remember a referee like this. Hey, hey, hey. Nah, I'm not kicking. Hey, don't kick him out. You're going to keep taking his ass. See, he ain't saying enough.
Starting point is 02:06:46 You're not going to sit in the back. You're not going to sit in the back. That's when you say some shit. That's when you're like, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Okay, okay. And I'll tell you in a minute. All right, put some...
Starting point is 02:06:54 Okay, okay, okay. Put some meaningful spit in that whistle because you've been blowing that bitch for nothing all night. I know what you're trying to do. You're trying to get kicked out so you can sit in the back like, nah, you're going to enjoy this ass whooping with the rest of your team.
Starting point is 02:07:06 Closed game, though, like I'm saying. They were down 14 when he got kicked out. You're going to keep enjoying his ass whooping with the rest of your team? Close enough. Be a leader. That wasn't a closed game at all. He wanted to get kicked out of there. They came back earlier.
Starting point is 02:07:22 They came back, but at that time, they were down 14. But at the end of the day, you know, this is growing pains for Pistons, right? Like, keep doing you and understand that the refs have to adjust to the style. It's worked for you thus far. Just, Cade, just understand that you're the only one they will probably listen to. So, you know, as frustrated as you are, you still got to have the volume that you can talk to these refs to protect the rest of your teammates.
Starting point is 02:07:51 And that's really it. All right, well, let's keep this thing moving. How they play, he has to be the mediator and the voice. Let's stay in the East. So after tying a franchise record, they set to start the season with 15 straight wins. Cavs made history Friday, beating the Grizzlies for their 16th straight win. Cavs were back at home Sunday to take on the Magic for the third time this season
Starting point is 02:08:10 in a rematch of last season's first round of the playoffs. But after getting 40-piece in Orlando back on February 25th in their worst loss of the season, Magic got some revenge. So let's take a look at the highlights. Paolo Bancaro led the Magic with 24 points, 11 rebounds, 7 dimes, with Franz Wagner adding 22 and 8 boards. Wendell Carter Jr. had 16 points, 14 boards, and Anthony Black came off the bench to drop 17 points in 22 minutes.
Starting point is 02:08:36 Donovan Mitchell led the Cavs with 23 points, 6 boards, and 5 dimes, but was 9 for 28 from the field. Jared Allen had 20 and 12 boards, and Darius Garland had 19, 5, and 4 with five turnovers. So Cavs held the lead, but the Magic rallied back in the second half. Makes it part of the plays.
Starting point is 02:08:56 Like this. That's good defense. Waggy, waggy. Hans Wagner. Magic have some injury issues. Jalen Suggs, Mo Wagner, both out for the season. Hans Wagner. Paolo looking good. Magic have some injury issues. Jayla Suggs, Mo Wagner, both out for the season. But they got their two young, dynamic, max players doing their thing.
Starting point is 02:09:15 Magic are down one, under a minute to go. Paolo hit this big bucket. Paolo Pete Carroll, as he's also known. Put him up two, ended up, I think the Cavs missed like five shots in the last 30 seconds of the game, whatever it may be. Magic came in some free throws. To get the win was the Cavs' first loss since February 4th. So last week on the show we talked about the potential problem that Magic could present
Starting point is 02:09:39 this season with a more experienced squad. Like I mentioned, Jalen Suggs, Mo Wagner, both out for the rest of the season. Took this Cavs squad to seven last season. Both teams won all their home games. Obviously, Cavs were the fourth seed, Magic were the fifth seed. Magic lost that series, but how dangerous is this Magic squad come playoff time? The way things are panning out right now, they could potentially see each other again in the first round. Obviously, Cavs would be the one seed, Magic would be the eighth seed in that scenario But magic of double history injuries coming back. They got their two main guys starting to play at a high level
Starting point is 02:10:12 Casson's cash fans said they lost cuz they have Evan Mobley. Mm-hmm, but Orlando don't have their other players either so They know every mobile, you know All-star. The other players ain't an all-star, though. I mean, it's just one of those teams that, you know, they felt that one play or two plays last year, they could have been, you know, in the second round. So, you know, the team itself, you know,
Starting point is 02:10:43 still has confidence in themselves against the Cavs. Just like the Cavs, Cavs have a big back front court. You've got three guys that's 6'10 and above. You've got KCPs about 6'5, 6'6, but they can put out big lineups just like, you know, Cavs can. So, you know, if you're Cavs and you do get Orlando, you're not worried about beating Orlando. You're just worried about they could push it. We're supposed to sweep them, right?
Starting point is 02:11:19 You think the Cavs are supposed to sweep them? We're the number one team. We're supposed to sweep them. But we know that that team is still going to fight them to the death. And that's not the matchup you would like if you're trying to get to that championship. You don't want to play Orlando who thinks they have confidence over you. There ain't no sweeping. That's all it is.
Starting point is 02:11:40 There ain't no sweeping. There ain't going to be no sweeping. I said it should be. One versus eight. Yeah, I know. But, you know, it's one of those teams that could take them to six, possibly seven, and that's not what you want in your first fucking round. I say six. I think they remind me of, like, the young Boston team when Tatum and the Washington, you know, with Pablo.
Starting point is 02:11:59 Which team? When they just, yeah, yeah. I think, like, they could be like that coming up. Pablo P. Caron. Is it Pablo? Pablo. Pablo. Pablo.
Starting point is 02:12:08 Pablo. You're talking about, like, they're an ape seed. Pablo. No, he's not. He's going to get around. They're an ape seed, but they're not an ape seed. That's what I'm saying. They don't feel like a traditional ape seed.
Starting point is 02:12:19 They dealt with a bunch of injuries. Like, they're two stars. They're big. No, what I'm saying is they're not an ape seed. Like, we know what the team would look like if they was healthy. They'd be top five. So you're not, so Cavs is not really playing a And that's the unfortunate part of how this playoff may pan out for them.
Starting point is 02:12:32 So that's why I said I don't, I wouldn't want to Very scary. Yeah. We ain't saying they gonna beat them. Still a game in March. We all know that. They're not gonna make no huge deal about it. But they can say yeah. They're not going to make no huge deal about it. But, like I said, yeah, they just feel they got confidence against Cleveland.
Starting point is 02:12:50 This is their first win here? Like, oh, shit, we beat them at home. They got confidence. They got 40-piece in their last game. Who was on the team? That's what I'm saying. No Evan Mobley. That beat them by 40.
Starting point is 02:13:01 I think they both, Apollo and... Fogner was out. No, I think they both played in that game and... Fogner was out. No, I think they both played in that game. Let me double-check that. Whatever, but we're talking about in the playoffs here. They believe, they got confidence. They believe. They have confidence that they can play with this team.
Starting point is 02:13:13 You can go six or seven, man. Just like Orlando got confidence. We went to your... Because this is one of those wins where we beat them by 40, so we walking in. And they came back and got some confidence. Yeah, they spent yeah so right you're talking about a guy like you let me win a fight like i mean i'm gonna keep fighting i know
Starting point is 02:13:31 what i'm gonna get my ass with but there might be a chance where i you know it's not gonna it's not really gonna be a four they're not gonna four oh them but they shouldn't be worried who can't shouldn't they should they should they shoulds shouldn't be worried. They should. They should. They should be. They should be. They should be like, yeah, we're not going to. About that matchup.
Starting point is 02:13:50 Because Orlando has confidence, and if you have confidence against somebody, you're not playing tense. You're not playing timid. I feel we have a chance. Yeah. Because we played them last year in the playoffs. We won three games against this team in the playoffs. Right.
Starting point is 02:14:07 Facts. They got the same team. Cleveland has the same team. But they pretty much got the same team. We added KCP. We feel we added a piece. We're missing. But they have confidence.
Starting point is 02:14:18 I ain't saying they're going to beat them. It might be. They can go out and four them. I ain't saying. But it could be a very close four games. But they have confidence down in Orlando that they can play with this particular team. The experience is going to take them over the top. We'll see.
Starting point is 02:14:33 If it stays true, if they match up, then good luck. We shall see. Well, it's St. Patrick's Day here in Gills Arena, and you know we like to celebrate holidays. As only we can. Gills Arena presented by you know we like to celebrate holidays. As only we can. Gills Arena presented by Underdog Woo Woo. Thank you, Steve. I appreciate you. Keep me on my grind.
Starting point is 02:14:52 We got a special treat for our crew. We're gonna play a friendly game of beer pong with a little twist. Instead of getting lit, our crew has a chance to win some free shit. Six cups on the table. Each one has a prize. Each member of our crew will get two chances to sink a shot.
Starting point is 02:15:07 If they sink a ball into the cup, they win that prize. There is also a cup with a stealer prize inside, which allows whoever gets it to steal whatever prize they want. We are going to go around the couch. As you see, we've got the world's tallest leprechaun.
Starting point is 02:15:22 That's the man jumping there. Before we do this, can I ask a question? You told us to wear green, right, for the holiday spirit? Yeah, they did. Y'all don't see nothing wrong with that, huh? Yeah, everybody, yeah. So did the people who created everyone wear green didn't even fucking fester themselves. Definitely.
Starting point is 02:15:49 Oh, oh. We're beige. Okay. We're beige. We gonna throw some beads on. I have a question. I have a question for you. For everybody that didn't wear green, I have a question.
Starting point is 02:16:02 Did they by chance just spring St. Patrick's Day up on y'allall by chance did they just add this shit on the calendar like yesterday? Yeah. Oh no Yeah, remember this decorate it. Yeah, I'm just asking Oh every year I think it's green that if I'm not mistaken all the you did the baby. Oh, it's your green Maybe this motherfucker falls on a different day like maybe at the same time every year. Maybe I'm wrong. I was just wondering. You got what? Like what? We want to know.
Starting point is 02:16:32 And I got, yeah. That's not in town. Yes. No, don't change. No, now it's anyways. Thank you. I got two kids dressed, motherfucking put dye in the toilet and put out sprinkles and shit. Dye green.
Starting point is 02:16:48 Change the color of the milk. You put dye in the toilet? Yes. You changed the color of the milk? Food color in the toilet, I put out sprinkles and shit, changed the color of the milk, put all that shit, put out fucking Lucky Charms and shit, all that shit. The gentleman from Oakcliff. And still wore green.
Starting point is 02:17:01 The gentleman from Oakcliff. It just stood out, is what I'm saying. It just stood out that y'all wasn't wearing no green. All right, well. It stands out. Let's get into our magically delicious game of beer, Paul. And she got a present and all kind of shit. She got all kind of rewards and still didn't wear green.
Starting point is 02:17:15 Yeah, yeah. First up, Mr. B. You got to stay in the foot spot. You get two shots. If you sink one into the cup, you get that prize. We're going to fess around my house, Josiah. I'm not going to hit none. We you know oh we know be Oh over to the next up hey don't think no big movies to be
Starting point is 02:17:33 Championship Pete don't it's supposed to be close championship piece why you pee Sigma pee uh-oh damn there is no line of demarcation still miss still miss a miss. Still a miss. You're not even on the... Still a miss. Trash! Next up. You gotta be at the feet marks. The feet mark. Loophole Gill. Say nothing about leaning.
Starting point is 02:17:56 Lean with it, rock with it. Loophole Gill. No loophole with this one. Gotta be on the mark. Uh-oh. Just a bit outside. It works on-oh. Just a bit outside. It works on the game. Just a bit outside. All right.
Starting point is 02:18:10 Oh, Gil got one in the cup. Stop talking about. Shooter, shoot. Remove your cup from the table. Gil, there is a prize inside. That was magical. Take the cup off. Take the cup off.
Starting point is 02:18:22 Oh, take the cup off? Take the cup off. I got a key. What is your prize? Gil has cup off. Take the cup off. I got a key! What is your prize? Gil has a key. I got a key to someone's heart! Kenyon, you have two shots. I don't know. It's a key to a safe. Kenyon, you have two shots.
Starting point is 02:18:35 Last but not least. The key is your arena for the day. Unfortunately, it's already Gil's arena. Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Relax. So you didn't get shit, Gil. Gil's arena for the day? God damn it, aye, trust me. Last but not least.
Starting point is 02:18:51 This is about to be turned out. Cemetery Larry, Gil gets to do what he really wants to do in the arena. Oh. Damn. Too strong. Bust the ball. Mm. Mm. Go again, B. Gil, the only, one Go again, B.
Starting point is 02:19:06 Gil, the only, one more chance, each. Put the magic twist on it. Uh-oh. Nope. Gil, you already won, so you do not get to go again. But Sigma P, aka Championship P, aka Swaggy P. Ashman. Ashiman. Ashiman.
Starting point is 02:19:27 Hey, wait, so I can have everybody wear my jerseys and everything? That's part of it? You can do that, Gil. Oh, Swaggy. Swaggy, not one shot, Swaggy. One swag, you made it. So you give us in the cup. I'm just telling you.
Starting point is 02:19:41 Get your cup. Get your cup. Get your cup. Damn. Damn. Damn. You feel me? You feel me? You feel me? the cup I'm just telling you get your cup get your cup get your cup damn you feel me? you feel me? what's in the cup? the ball shut up
Starting point is 02:19:54 a middle finger you participated what did you get swaggy? oh shit swaggy got a middle finger in his cup what does the middle finger represent Oh, shit. Swaggy got a middle finger in his cup. What's the middle finger for? What does the middle finger represent? What is that?
Starting point is 02:20:08 What? You got the fuck you? Yeah, you got the fuck you. Yeah, you won, motherfuckers. You won the fuck you? Yes. Oh! Your winner.
Starting point is 02:20:17 Look at that, man! In the cup. Wait. Was that with the left hand? Yeah. Didn't he make that with the left? Championship trophy. Oh my fucking god! This is hilarious.
Starting point is 02:20:28 What do you get? It's hilarious. Please reveal your prize. Let me see. Applebee's gift card for Rashad. To take the work on a gourmet meal. That's insane. That's funny. That's insane.
Starting point is 02:20:45 That's funny. That's insane. No, that's funny. We're sure. We're sure insane. Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for participating in our Gilderina Beer Pong. That was funny. That's funny.
Starting point is 02:20:55 No, I'm not leaving this couch. Merely a host. Damn, man. Too much to do. That's crazy. She said she don't want to go to Alba B's no more either, so I came to work. Hey, hey, hey, God. She's a Chipotle lady now. God. she don't want to go to Applebee's no more either, so I came to work. Hey, hey, hey, stop. She's a Chipotle lady now.
Starting point is 02:21:07 Stop. Hey, you want to trade? I really want, to be honest, I really want to see what your mind think of if it's your arena. Cemetery land? If it's my what? If it's your arena. I really want to see.
Starting point is 02:21:21 If it's my arena. No, no, so this. Arena for a day. It's your arena for the day. You get to decorate it in whatever the fuck you want. Or would you rather have an Applebee's gift card? This is a tough deal. Applebee's or Cemetery Larry Arena?
Starting point is 02:21:33 You didn't win shit. Wow. Is this a medal? I really want to see what the... Hey, do I get to pick whatever day I want? Yes! You get to do whatever the hell you want to do pick whatever day. Oh, yes You wanna do work day, you know what The kid of the arena for Applebee's
Starting point is 02:22:05 Shit I know there's gonna be some clubs. I got some strip clubs. Yeah, I know there's gonna be some clubs. Yeah, I know there's gonna be some clubs. Ladies and gentlemen, anything can happen in the arena. Appreciate you working with us for our special thing. Patrick's Day game of beer pong. And now let's move on to Mostly Fans. I know there's gonna be some nice little things. Presented by Underdog. Download the app, use promo code GIL, get up to $1,000 in bonus cash, plus a special
Starting point is 02:22:24 pick-em. Cavs fans are not feeling festive today, taking the L. So we got one question from underdog user Ellis125. It said, between the Thunder being 13 games ahead of the two seed and the Cavs having two 15-plus game winning streaks, which one seed is more disrespected by media and fans? Between the Cavs and the Thunder, which one seed is more disrespected by media and fans between the Cavs and the Thunder which one seed is more Disrespected by media fans. I'm gonna say cash
Starting point is 02:22:50 Yeah, can I get no respect Yeah, yeah At least like SGA is being talked about because of the MVP the MVP race Yeah, they act like they're like like Cavs ain't even under the radar. They talk about the second and the third and the fourth team. So in the East, we got the second. The New York Knicks in Boston and Milwaukee. Cavs win again.
Starting point is 02:23:16 Like, damn. Cavs, look, you got to do something. So Cavs. Yeah, Cavs. That was a quick but easy one. Shout out LS125. They don't win it. $50 courtesy of Underdog.
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