Gil's Arena - The CRAZIEST NBA Trade Deadline Ever IGNITES Gil's Arena
Episode Date: February 7, 2025The CRAZIEST NBA Trade Deadline Ever IGNITES Gil's Arena as Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Crew recap one of the craziest weeks in NBA History as the whole league was turned upside down from an asso...rtment of blockbuster trades involving NBA Superstars like Luka Doncic & Jimmy Butler. The GA Crew kicks off the show by reacting to the end of the Jimmy Butler saga as the Golden State Warriors finally made the move for the disgruntled superstar, brining him to the bay to chase a championship alongside Steph Curry and Draymond Green. They break down if Jimmy will be able to find his joy again in Golden State and debate if he'll be the piece this dynasty has been missing since winning it all in 2022. Next, they react to another blockbuster for the Los Angeles Lakers following their move for Luka Doncic as the Lake Show finally got a 5 in a move that sent rookie forward Dalton Knecht to Charlotte for the exciting young center Mark Williams, sparking a debate over if these moves for the Lakers have turned LeBron James' team into a legitimate championship contender. Finally, they whip around the NBA to cover storylines over shadowed by the deadline like, another 50 point game for MVP Favorite Shai Gilgeous Alexander, De'Aaron Fox's outstanding debut alongside Victor Wembanyama and Lonzo Ball's surprising extension with the Chicago Bulls. Please leave us a like and subscribe!!! Gil's Arena Crew - Josiah Johnson, Rashad McCants, Nick Young, Brandon Jennings & Kenyon Martin Gil's Arena Merch is Available NOW at https://gilsarenamerch.com/ Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get up to $1000 in Bonus Cash and A FREE Pick: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena Head To https://aura.watch and use Promo Code Gil For 15% OFF!! USE Code GIL for $20 off tickets on SeatGeek https://seatgeek.onelink.me/RrnK/GIL SUBSCRIBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAvjYgmwadC682OoC4Cc6TQ Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos! https://discord.gg/underdog 2 Min Timer 0:00:00 Show Start 0:02:01 The Trade Deadline From A Player Perspective 0:17:25 Should The NBA Move The Trade Deadline? 0:24:10 Reacting To Kevin Porter Jr To the Bucks 0:31:55 Jimmy Butler Finally Gets Traded To Golden State 0:34:02 KJ Martin Traded AGAIN 1:02:46 Lakers Make Another Blockbuster 1:13:15 Dalton Knecht's Age Made Him Expendable 1:24:40 Luka's Laker Debut 1:49:14 Which Team Improved The Most At The Deadline? 2:00:32 Ben Simmons Wants To Be Bought Out 2:09:32 Rashad's Crazy Take On Shai's MVP Status 2:12:29 Gil's Arena's Super Bowl Picks 2:37:04 MostlyFans 2:42:59 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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The first time out of the house in weeks.
You have your Starbucks, then tea, because, you know, sleep deprivation.
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Whoa, whoa!
Trade deadline day.
Some teams got better.
Some teams didn't.
.
.
Whoa!
That's the type of mood I'm on.
Get Rob on the phone.
Shout out, Rob Palenka.
We've always supported you, Rob. Never waver. Never waver. Stop the phone. Shout out Rob Palenka.
We've always supported you, Rob.
Never waver.
Stop the cap.
Never waver.
Shout out European basketball players.
Best ever.
We have a newfound appreciation.
So y'all going to be with the same energy the next Olympics?
In L.A.
Oh, it's L.A.? Yeah.
I mean, Luka might be a...
He might convert. He might convert.
He might be a citizen by then.
Might get his Joel on.
Yeah.
Luka, we got a passport waiting for you,
but this is Gil's Arena presented by Underdog.
As always, we got the legend Gilbert Arenas here with us.
What up, what up?
A lot of red, Gil.
It's cracking.
I understand your daughter go to Louisville and everything, but...
No, no, no.
No.
Tell the people.
I was supposed to be in Louisville right now.
The game is today.
Here's my outfit.
So you didn't want to get on no plane?
Huh?
You didn't want to get on that plane.
No.
It was delayed.
My stomach was hurting.
And I was like, oh man, I'm not shitting in there.
That's what you did.
At the airport.
Hey, hey.
Drove all the way back home, baby.
Can't make that flight.
Wait a minute.
Wait a minute.
You pissed out, man.
I'm the best one.
Your stomach was hurting.
For real.
I'm the best one.
Your stomach was hurting.
You drove all the way from LAX back to the Valley. Yeah, I ate some. I ate some.'re the best one. Your stomach was hurting. Man.
You drove all the way from LA back to the valley.
Yeah, I ate some.
I ate some.
It's a handicapped dog.
Now, I understand that.
That's not a close drive.
I ate some Morton meatballs before.
Whoa.
And it was ready to come out.
And I was like, yeah.
It was ready to come out.
The meatballs were ready to come out.
Yeah, it was ready to come out.
Here we go.
I am with you, brother, because I don't.
Listen, it has to be.
It has to be good meatballs.
Listen, cold red for me to shit in public.
Yeah.
Yeah. Like, for me to shit in public. It's like, I That's a good meatball. Cold red for me to shit in public.
Like, for me to shit...
It has to be, like, now, either I'm going to go on myself or I'm going to...
That's the only way I'm shitting in public, bro.
Understand.
Cold red.
Cold red.
Take the chains off the door.
Joe Clark, God damn it.
Cold red, cold red.
Take the chains off the door. Stop. Cold Red! Cold Red! Hey, T-Yolk-Dolk!
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's that one.
Get the fuck up my face, Stanley!
Yeah, yeah.
Get the fuck up my face!
Running to the door, holding his ass.
Move, move, move, motherfucker, move!
Hey, one of my close partners, we was in the All-Star Game,
was in New Orleans.
We was at D-Wade and them, was it Domino's thing?
They was having a spade, right? We was there.
And my stomach got to going, boy.
He was like, I was like, hey, got to go.
He was like, then we all got to leave
because you got to shit.
He was like, man, you ain't from Oak Cliff, nigga.
Yeah, absolutely from Oak Cliff, but I'm not shitting here.
Yeah, I can't shit in no club or no party.
I'm not shitting in no party.
No club, no party. Nowhere not shitting that no party. No club, no party.
Nowhere, bro.
What?
Airport, though?
I'm like, yeah, I get in that handicap stall.
Hey.
Oh, because they clean.
Nigga, it's big enough, you know?
It's big, man.
You got to go.
Now, one thing I have noticed, them lounges.
Man.
Delta Lounge.
Shout out to the Delta Lounge.
Delta Lounge might be the move.
Delta Lounge. You might move. Delta Lounge.
You might have to pay that $100.
Whatever that fee is, whatever you got to pay to go in there, it might be worth it.
If they got the shower in there, I just order the shower.
Yeah, I just book the shower.
They got showers in there?
Yeah, they do.
You got to run to the shower water to take a shit?
No, no, I can shower.
Yeah.
You never been in there?
I ain't never taken a shower. He's never been on planes like that, man. No, no, I just got I can shout out I can yeah
Ain't never taken a lot of fun. I've been on two planes like that man this Southwest King
Southwest Nick right this
West when I was winning the championship was an easier flight to Oakland Oh, so that's championship experience right there get the easier flight easier fight
45 minutes that's the champion thought process process. You take the Burbank one
because it's chill, too.
You feel me?
You wouldn't know that.
Don't share the secrets, nigga.
Everybody fly LAX.
Stay away from Burbank.
Terrible airport.
You don't want to do it.
All right.
But that's what we on.
Right around the corner.
That's what we on, Nick.
So we asked to chat,
do you poop in public?
Damn.
Y'all quick with it.
Damn.
Of course they do.
Them savages.
Hold on. Wait, these numbers are looking a little. Damn. Of course they do, them savages.
Wait, these numbers are looking a little skewed. Hold on, let me see.
I gotta get naked. 27% said yes. 30% said no. 43% only in emergency situations.
I like the way the chat's working.
People keep their clothes on right here while they taking shits. I gotta get ass naked.
Everything, I gotta be Shoes off, everything.
The thing is, I shit in the dark, so it's.
It's a lot of info being shit.
Can't you go in there lights off?
Yes.
That's why I can't do it in the pub.
I got to be in my own confines.
It got to be dark.
On this side of the couch, we got NBA champion Swaggy P.
See, I'm not supposed to see y'all.
So y'all want to see what y'all drop.
Look in the dome.
Where my shit at?
Where my shit at? Where my shit at?
Where is your shit at?
We got NBA champion swaggy P in the building.
Also, next is swaggy.
Oh, crazy.
Represent Tough Crowd, Tough Crowd University,
Mr. B, Brandon Jennings.
Okay.
You got cracker, Mr. B.
That's so real, baby.
I love that hat.
Yeah, that's how the Trad Day line sound. No likes. The Wild Wild's the wild wild west. Wild wild west shout out Jimmy Butler
We're gonna talk about him in a second. There any reds on this side of the couch
Thanks for my number one pick the bully from Oak Cliff, Texas
Kenya Martin is here with us
If the lights off in the bathroom, do not open the door.
You don't know what's going down.
And the man known as Cemetery Larry, Rashad McKenzie.
Back here with us.
That's Crip Kins today.
That's Crip Kins today.
He real west side today.
Luka! Luka!
Look at this powder blue, man.
It counts.
Powder.
Powder.
Powder.
I ain't want to go too far down to the hood.
So, Gil, you weren't supposed to be here today,
but we're close, so I got to tell you the truth.
It's not only NBA Tread Down Line for the NBA,
also for NBA shows.
As general manager of this show,
I got an offer that was too good to pass up.
I was gonna trade you for five second round picks
at P.J. Tucker.
Damn.
But underdog vetoed the trade,
but glad to have you back in the arena.
Thank you, thank you. Still on the show.
You made it. You made it through.
P.J.'s still playing, right?
Weirdo. He got a trade about 50, 11 times.
Right. That's what I'm saying. I didn't know if he was still playing. Way to get diverted. He ain't playing no right? Weirdo. He got a trade about 50, 11 times. Right.
That's what I'm saying.
I didn't know if he was still playing.
He ain't getting diverted.
He ain't playing no more.
He done.
And we are 15 minutes away from the trade deadline, everybody.
But for all the fans out there, we still got two viewing options for you.
Our traditional version, mobile vertical version.
Pick whichever one you want to watch.
Just make sure you support the show.
Here's what's cracking in the arena today.
Jimmy Butler is headed to the Bay to team up with Steph and the Warriors.
Did the Dubs do enough at the deadline to save their season? We will discuss. The Lakers made another move by adding a solid five to pair with the faces of the franchise. Have
the Purple and Gold put themselves in position to be a legit threat this season? They said
they was on the Luka timeline now, but the Luka and LeBron timeline seem very similar.
We're trying to get this ring, trying to get this banner so we can surpass the Celtics.
We already got 18 just like them with the in-season tournament championship, but need another ring.
And with all the trades across the league, both big and small, which teams got better
and which teams put their season in the shredder?
Hold on, let's just take a moment to just look at that.
Look at that photo.
Look how happy Luka looks, look how slder. Hold on. Let's just take a moment to just look at that. Look at that photo. Look how happy Luca looks.
Look how slender.
All right.
Ready to play defense.
Immaculate beard.
That's a real white man haircut.
Boy, it is.
Traditional.
Do you have the light paper?
Got the beard trim?
Traditional man right there.
Shout out to JC.
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take a look if we can.
So you have
a former LeBron
teammate, current Mav,
which was the former home of Luka before he got
traded, Anthony Davis. Lower
39.5 points, rebound and assist.
They were talking about a stomach
strain, but he might have just
found out he was going to Dallas had the bubblegum
Who got some a shrine that they said he was supposed to be out for a little bit. He was faking
He got the words going. I'm just going down
His dummy was are you got you got J us? Yes, okay both me tripping
I know Celtics number one option, Jalen Brown, lower 4.5 assists.
Just shoot it.
Tonight versus the Mavs.
Just shoot it.
Now you got to shoot it.
Yeah, just shoot the Mavs.
You got Lucas' former teammate, Kyrie Irving,
higher 3.5 three-pointers made.
And Ant-Man fresh off the 49 piece.
You got him higher.5 three-pointers made
in the first quarter.
How everybody feel about Brandon Spicks?
Kyrie, that's the only one.
I'm scared of Kyrie, yeah.
Kyrie not going to do the four.
Four threes.
He'll get to two and chill.
This is all team.
All mid-range.
They be messing with him out there.
You got White and Drew stopping that.
Make him drive it.
Ain't nobody else to pass to.
Shoot.
I'm going to put Clay for sure, probably.
That ain't been three.
Four threes.
He got to make four.
He got to make four. I thought it was at two when I picked. Yeah, Clay is picking. I think it went up, probably. I didn't mean three. Four threes. He got to make four. He got to make four.
I thought it was at two when I picked.
Yeah, Klay is.
I think he went up, bro.
I think they added.
Bro, I swear that thing said 2.5.
They got you.
Yeah, like.
That's a hard four right there.
Come on.
That's a hard four.
I think it's.
Five hit, though.
Yeah, see.
And Mike.
This thing, it don't supposed to move.
It don't supposed to change no big.
Not for Mr. B.
It don't supposed to change no big, though.
It supposed to.
And Mike hit, though, low key. Because you got it at 2.5. Wild, wild west. You know what I'm saying? pick. Not for Mr. B. It don't supposed to change your pick, though. That's tough.
Because you got it at 2.5.
Wild, wild west.
I got his at 2.5.
Yeah, them 4.3.
That's tough.
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So, we are less now than what?
11 minutes away.
Josiah, real quick.
Uh-oh.
So, you guys have done record viewership on the show all week.
You're goddamn right.
You talked to Noah Berm.
The suite is approved.
Mavericks-Lakers, February 25th.
So shout out to that.
You guys are going Mavs-Lakers in the suite.
Yeah.
See what we did?
See what God did?
See what Berm and Underdog did?
Going to watch a little clip.
Can I get some?
Come on.
They're not ready yet.
My dog.
I was going to put a good word in for you. My dog.
I was going to call Bronny.
Okay.
Time out.
You got to play.
Just being there mad, man.
Just being there mad while we're having fun.
You diagram exceeding arrangements.
Y'all are sitting in the back of the bus since y'all don't want to support Lucas.
Can we just get a 77 jersey?
Yeah, Rosa Parks.
Have you seen no jerseys sold out already?
Huh?
Sold out.
Should I share with the class, please?
Yeah, it's a new jersey.
Everybody in your dream.
You're not going?
Should I say he got shit to do?
I got shit to do.
If somebody out there wants a shot ticket, let us know.
Nice hair right there.
We will bless you like that.
That's very, like, good.
We did a record on Monday in terms of viewership,
so we got the sweep, but also we are at 895,000 subscribers
on our YouTube channel.
Once we hit 900,000, we're doing our race to a gillion.
What that means, for every 1,000 subscribers we get
from 900,000 to a million, we're giving away $1,000
to any underdog user who's used promo code GIL
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Like, if y'all want money, it's 4,600 more.
You do it right now.
We know you're ghost watching.
Just go ahead, sub up, get that shit kicking today.
We need to get to 900K today, all right?
I'm trying to get your money.
We're trying to give.
Play on the app so y'all can.
I want my YouTube.
His pics.
Yeah.
All you got to do, all you got to do.
We just give you the pics.
Pics and the money.
Tell your mama, tell your cousin,
tell they cousin, tell they friend.
Tell your friend.
Your boyfriend in jail, you know he got cash.
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You know, have them follow, you know what I mean?
Put money on my books, dad.
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We will start giving away bread
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If we hit out 901 today, we will give away $1,000 on this show.
Underdog, get ready. Steve, please let the powers that be know.
But help us out. We've been doing great numbers.
God bless Luca. It is Black History Month,
but just want to thank Luca for helping us feed our families.
We're coming to the Lakers.
We've been doing numbers, Sean! He helping you, too!
He helping you, too!
I just want to thank baby Jesus.
That's it.
Give Slovenia Jesus.
I just want to thank our Slovenian.
Nice baby feet.
Oh, baby Jesus.
So we are now eight minutes away from the NBA trade deadline.
This has already been one of the most memorable trade deadlines in history.
Thanks to Rob Palenka and Danny Ainge's never-ending thirst for draft picks,
Danny got got.
Rob said, I got. He didn't tell the other
part of the trade. They said, I got some picks for you.
Oh, he's sick.
You think he would have did it? Hell no.
Damn pick fiend.
That's what being thirsty gets you.
If we told you to get off that shit, he wouldn't
have did it.
If he would have known we were dead?
What? Are you a businessman Don't you get off that shit. He wouldn't did it be if you didn't get Lucas. Oh, no, what?
Are you a businessman or not? He's a so did it help you? I mean you got a couple pics. No, he's a hater
I'm giving you free pay
Why do you care what I got what you got you don't have to do nothing take these pics
You get a million off that yeah, that's it. Hey man, you're gonna stand down
In return you get a million
Get the lottery numbers. I find it on the weird that
Dallas and Boston plan and
La and the Warriors playing right after the trade deadline with the new rosters in place.
That game is going to be crazy.
Is Luka playing tonight?
Luka will be back Saturday.
Not tonight?
He started 5-on-5 yesterday.
Looking very slender.
Just looking at that, if Luka could play tonight,
that game rating go crazy.
Then you look at the Dallas-Boston game. AD ad not playing right? I think ad maybe his stomach hurt
He was a shoot around he was in shooting around so even a deep smile in his game right here
Kiki and what Kyrie well, that's that's different and if they win so matchup that was last review so trade deadline
No, maybe
Teams were preparing for the awkwardness of travel with traded players.
So here's what Chris Haynes tweeted about it.
Chris Haynes tweeted,
In light of major NBA movement recently,
a few teams that are scheduled to travel on February 6th of the trade deadline
have adjusted itineraries after realizing the team will be in the air
when the deadline passes.
This is to prevent a potential awkward flight.
Imagine you got traded.
You got to sit on the flight.
You're not tripping, Gil?
Trade it in the air?
That's crazy.
I mean, do they actually got...
I haven't been on a plane.
They have sufficient Wi-Fi.
They got Wi-Fi on the plane now?
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
You can watch.
You can?
Oh, yeah.
TV on your mobile device.
Before, before, it's just your ass found out when you landed.
Gil, when was the last time you've been on an airplane?
No, I didn't know that they had them.
That was dumb.
Because if Southwest got them, I'm assuming.
Just shut the fuck up.
You're right.
Just shut the fuck up.
I didn't want to assume, but I just.
If Southwest got it, everybody got it.
Everybody got it.
But all you gentlemen that play in the league,
I'm sure have experienced numerous trade deadlines.
How stressful are the days and hours
leading up to the NBA trade deadline?
It's only stressful if you're hearing your name.
Yeah.
Isn't it? Really?
No stress, Ken?
You ain't worried about nothing?
I ain't never been traded.
Have you ever come close to being traded at the deadline?
I was hoping so, not during the season.
I wanted to get out of Denver.
Like I said the other day, I was trying to get out of Denver
and I couldn't.
So my trade happened in off season from the Nets
to the Nuggets for picks.
So I could max the money out.
Sure.
I know nobody cares really but.
Hold up, before you speak Sean, we always care.
We embrace this.
We're not gonna play, but.
I have played,
I was doing DNPs basically for 17, 18 games and
then trade deadline's coming up, and I was asking
for a trade. And the last game we had before trade deadline was in Miami. I knew I wasn't
going to play. I just collected 16 straights. So I'm like, I know he not going to play me.
I got fucked up as soon as we landed. I went out. You know, we do the thing, know I'm not
playing. Hoping to get that call from the agent as soon as out. He out, you know, we do the thing, know I'm not playing. Hoping to
get that call from the agent as soon as I was out. He's like, yeah, we weren't able
to get no deal done. I'm like, so I got to stay here? I'm stuck. For another, how many
games after the 20, how many? 30 games? I'm thinking I'm racking up 30 DMPs?
That hurt. The first thing I thought was like,
damn, he going to bury me now.
Yeah.
Because I asked for the trade,
and then I didn't get the trade.
So I went to the crib.
We played a game.
I don't play.
Get on the plane, get back, go to sleep,
wake up the next morning, get the car.
Sacramento Kings.
I was happy because I got traded. I was sick because they was the last place team get the call, Sacramento Kings. I was happy because I got traded.
I was sick because they was the last place team in the league.
So it was just one of them things where it's like, yo,
we got it done.
But the fact that they just threw it away, like.
Yeah.
Sack is like.
It's nasty work.
People who ask.
It stops.
Sack is people people ask stops sometimes.
That's the thing.
That's everything.
It's over after that?
Yeah, it's over after you go to SAC.
SAC, Minnesota.
If you get traded there or signed there, but not if you get drafted, because that's not
No, if you get, I'm talking about like, if you get traded there, it's like, yeah.
So what's the mood like on the team playing in the locker room at these moments when you're looking at guys stressing, you're looking at guys worrying about where they're going?
For me, they told me it was either the Clippers or the Lakers, so I was pretty happy.
I wanted to go back home.
And being in Washington was just fucking my head up.
The shit I was going through out there from Gil to really just Gil.
From Gil to Gil.
I wasn't even there.
You was there.
Not at that moment, but you was there prior to that.
When I was there, you was a bench player.
When I left, you was a star.
Thank you. You see what I mean?
Did you sell me out, you bitch?
Yes.
You sold me out?
Little deal. I just told you. Little see what I mean? Did you sell me out, you bitch? Yes. You sold me out? Little dealer.
I just told you.
Little dealer.
Damn.
You were in a jersey, but I was actually in them.
You was the bitch player when I was there, when I moved.
I seen the opportunity and I took it.
I had to get the motherfucker out the way.
I get it.
I got to shine, baby.
But remember they brung in Jordan Clark, Jamal.
Yeah.
Jordan Crawford.
Yeah, Jordan Crawford.
Yeah, the mood on the team, man.
I'm going to just be honest.
What a, what?
I didn't care.
These are your friends, Gil, your coworkers, your teammates?
But I didn't care because nobody that was,
that I liked got traded.
You know?
Get the fuck out. Do you like me?
I wasn't there when you got traded.
Oh, yeah. Right? So, I, you know...
You got to ask somebody who got traded in the...
Oh, shit. JaVale. JaVale got traded with me.
What happened? Oh, shit. Hey! Big trade.
Shut the fuck up. Big trade. What is it?
D'Angelo Russell has just been moved
Nick young bring it to the arena
You have been treated little Dilo
All right, pack your shit. Hey, can somebody give him a trash bag?
He got you
Man I even know how to deflate I was like, oh that's so bad he got
See why you can't have me around trade deadline in the locker room. And he said big trade.
Big trade.
He said big trade.
He said big trade.
I'm looking up.
I'm like, oh, it's like three minutes left.
Steve's started looking at his shoes.
He said big trade.
He said deal.
I'm like, aw, shit.
Hey, that's something.
This ain't no guy deal.
He just got there.
That's how it was.
Where you going?
That's how it was during the season.
Nick Young.
Be making up trades.
All right. All right. Well, got some good news and some bad news. Trade deadline officially over.
It is 12 p.m. Pacific.
KD's still there.
KD's stuck.
But they got to 3 o'clock, right?
No.
If something was going through.
If something like- Oh, they had it-
Pending or something.
Oh, something was- Okay.
If there's something pending.
But can't make no more moves.
As of this moment, we're going to talk about the big move in the Bay in a second,
but the Warriors acquired Jimmy Butler, a multi-team trade that involved Andrew Wiggins landing in Miami.
Butler's soon-to-be head coach Steve Kerr weighed in on the timing of the trade deadline last night
after the Warriors lost to the Jazz.
He wasn't permitted to speak directly about the Butler trade because it wasn't official at the time. I think the league should consider making the trade deadline
at the all-star break just so you don't
have to face these games where guys are
getting traded half an hour before a game and
you're trying to process the emotions
and trying to win a game.
I don't know if it's possible, but it'd be great if we could move it back to
or, you know, make the last couple of days, you know, before the deadline,
like off day.
I don't know how to do it, but these are tough days for sure.
So Steve Kerr said it should
move the trade deadline
to the All-Star break. Do you agree
with Steve Kerr saying the NBA should move the trade
deadline to the All-Star break?
No.
To give players some time
to acclimate and adjust. It's always something with him.
You just got Jimmy Butler, bro, for nothing.
Shut your ass up and come.
What the fuck is he talking about? He got it for nothing, bro. You didn't give up no Butler, bro, for nothing. Shut your ass up and come. What the fuck is he talking about?
He got her for nothing, bro.
You didn't give up no assets, bro.
You didn't give up nothing that they...
Steph went up there and said,
don't you give away the good shit for something like...
Let the shit die down.
We'll get Jimmy for nothing.
Wiggins and Kaminga?
We'll get him for nothing.
Wiggins and Kaminga is kind of better.
Kaminga is still there.
I'm taking Wiggins and Kaminga.
Look, Kaminga is still there.
No, he ain't trading Kaminga at all.
Oh, bro.
Just Wiggins, bro.
It was a straight-up trade.
Wiggins.
Yeah, just Wiggins.
Bro, if we giving up Wiggins for Jimmy Butler,
and I sit up here and say,
listen, don't throw away our centerpieces
for this type of move.
Let the shit die down.
Wiggins did help him win a championship.
He could have won a finals MVP.
Maple Jordan.
He ain't been the same really since.
Jimmy getting $60 million a year.
He ain't been the same since, but...
$60 million.
Do it good, Mexico.
I thought they gave a complaint.
Steve Kerr always fucking complain about some shit.
Oh, yeah.
Always fucking, you know what I'm saying?
He gets saved every time.
Jimmy just...
He's like, he really hurt.
Oh, man. Like he care about W Wiggins fellas. No, Maple Jordan. I
Wish we could push it back
Wiggins help you marine the words their last championship. I mean everybody had to go
So it was after a break
Like 2015 it was off the all-star break. Yeah, it was right
Yeah, because they traded Brandon Knight to Phoenix when I was with Milwaukee.
And, uh...
We had practice, and they traded him right after practice, so yeah, it was...
They made that man practice, and they traded him?
Yeah, yeah.
And then they cut, then...
And the Marcus Cousins, remember?
And I got motherfucking cut, like, later on, they traded them, and I left and got
the phone call, yeah, yeah, we're gonna let you go, big fella.
I'm like, damn.
When did they move it up?
I don't know.
We should like get back up. Probably because they added another week. Oh, it sucks after that's when you know the motherfucker
Man got the balls to tell you
They gotta do that beer. Well wait till you leave me
I'm sitting there getting more some PT done outside the facility get a text message. We need to talk I
Tell the PT yeah, that ain't good. She said what I see I just got it, we need to talk. I tell the PT, yeah, that ain't good.
She said, what?
I said, I just got a we need to talk text.
I put it on speakerphone.
I said, listen, they about to cut me, watch.
She said, you don't know that.
I said, watch.
I put it on speakerphone so she could hear it.
Boop.
She like, how did you know?
I said, she said, you want to continue this session?
Fuck no.
Over. I didn't want to continue this session fuck no over I
Didn't want to come to this bitch in the first place
It told me the way in my room
That's what he's saying Dan is
All star break everybody's everybody's at home or with their family then they can find out then yeah, I mean during the season
I mean one is embarrassing. Yeah, right I do most likely has been talking shit all season. Yeah, and then he trained me she didn't give me no playing time
And then you get traded you like Man, you got your shit already? You got your shit already? They said, you can't be here.
Stop talking to me.
You got to be 50 feet away from me.
Stop talking to me.
I can be 100 feet away from you.
Stop talking to me.
You're 100 feet away from me.
Yeah, they started digging up shit.
They're not supposed to be talking to me.
They don't catch me talking to you.
So I saw some shit the other day about the Christie dude.
You know on the road, they just got the Velcro,
and they just stick your name tag on it.
Yeah, you know when they're pulling it in.
They showed them.
They pulled.
They dug some shit up of them taking the man's name tag off on the road.
Like, yo, they ain't mean.
Wait, they snatched his shit off.
Like, no, that's a road thing.
Like, people are fucking terrible, man.
Appropriate timing, OK?
We have there to put.
Yeah, it was.
It was crazy shit.
I'm like, yo.
He been like, boop, yeah.
He probably threw some shit in the trash.
While he doing the interview.
They see him doing the interview.
They go, I'm like, yo, these damn people.
Oh, yeah, we did that before.
Motherfucker got threatened.
We don't need this no more.
Yeah.
Kick that motherfucker.
Just take the locker over.
But that's what I'm saying.
So I understand.
Wasn't Roger Mason?
He got traded to San Antonio.
Y'all did that to Roger?
Oh, no.
Was it Deshawn because of Roger?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
They had a beef?
Yeah.
Number eight, Rodgers.
Who did that mother----? Who did that?
He just kicked the whole thing.
My teammate getting traded.
I was on the middle of a trade, of course.
Him and Johnson got traded.
I was there when the AI came in.
I was, but nothing, like, yeah.
I had to watch the ticket trade.
I was there when Monte got traded to Milwaukee.
Oh, yeah.
That was a thing.
It was different for him, you could tell.
Because he's been with one team for so long.
Was he on the...
Where were y'all at?
We were on the road.
We were in New York.
And this is when I think Monte was about to go out for warm-ups.
And then they told him they got traded to Milwaukee.
Yeah, I see that. Yeah, man. Oh, yeah well that's that's great I mean that was just bad you know what I
mean cuz I mean I mean like I was happy to have like I was happy to have trades
like you could just tell like yeah I had to sit there I had to sit there and
listen to the conversations with where Ticket wanted to go.
That year, boy with the Boston.
Oh, shit.
It was about trade for Amari.
He was not trying to hear that shit.
He didn't like the fact that they compared Amari to him.
Oh, yeah.
He didn't like that shit.
Fuck, nah, fuck.
They tried to give him the LA, the cold, but they didn't have no pieces that matched.
So it only made sense.
But then Boston, Andy Miller called.
I was with Jeff, so they called me because Paul was with Jeff.
Trying to get Ticket and Paul to link up.
And that was before Ray even committed or none of that.
They didn't really fuck with each other like that.
But once Ray got there, they called Ticket back. It was like, what you think now?
And it went down.
Well, let's get back to this deadline.
For Marshawn Beauchamp.
From where?
Kevin Porter to the Bucs.
Kevin Porter from Clippers.
Yep.
That's what we got.
For Beauchamp.
For Beauchamp.
That's a good pickup. A lot of moves Bo Champ. A lot of moves going on.
So let's talk about...
Hell yeah.
They really got a one-on-one player.
They ain't coming off the bench. Get a bucket.
Him and Bobby.
You can fuck around and start him. You could.
At the shooting guard.
Who is your shooting guard?
AJ Green.
You can't have him.
We need to make cool. No, you can't have him and Dame. You need to start Jackson and Dinger. That is what you call a train wreck.
You need to start Jackson and Dinger though. One thinking about the one-on-one, one-on-one. All three of them. What? And motherfucking Brooke out there is just like,
whoa, whoa, just throw it to me.
Frank, stop.
Throw it to me.
What you pocket for?
Motherfucker just trying to follow the ball.
As soon as he catches it.
As soon as he catches it.
Frank is out.
No matter where he at.
No matter where he at.
32 feet.
He's firing that bitch.
He's like, I'm not catching this bitch no more.
I'm shooting it.
Yeah, that's right. We got action. Y'all like the Clippers train though this bitch no more. I'm shooting it. Hey, we got action.
Y'all like the Clippers trade, though?
Terrence Mann?
I'm just going to be honest with you, my brother.
For who?
We're not worried about the Clippers.
Bogdanovich.
Bogdanovich.
Boggy Boggy.
Good for the Clippers.
They traded Hunter, they traded Bogdanovich.
They got a player.
You see what he did in the Olympics.
Who?
Who?
The Hunter kids.
He going to play with them, though.
Who?
Clippers. Bogdanovich. They going to use him. They could use him. Boggy Boggy. Who? Who? Who? Who? Who?
Who?
Who?
Who?
Who?
Who?
Who?
Who?
Who?
Who?
Who?
Who?
Who?
Who?
Who?
Who?
Who?
Who?
Who?
Who?
Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? James could use them, but outside of that, it's like the rest of the pieces, like you got coffee, you got all of them.
They just trying to run into each other.
That's why they got rid of them.
It's crazy to think that Bronny broke the Clippers.
They had to start making moves.
Bronny broke the Clippers.
I like man, though.
Man is a good fit anywhere, though.
Where he go to?
Atlanta?
Yeah, but they got too many of the same people.
No, they clear house for him.
They got rid of Hunter.
Hunter's in the Cavs. Hunter's in Cleveland. Cleveland is a front runner. That's a clear house for him, but I just got rid of hunter Hunters into Cleveland Cleveland
Cleveland go to the front
Even go to the front. That's the fuck that is punishment. But uh, it's like a lot of big phrase going on
Ball in the heels watch
No, no. For real, right?
No, seriously.
That is a... You're doing a nigger after that.
That is very accurate.
Bowling heels to the niggerses.
To the niggerses.
Uh-oh.
To the niggerses.
You had that game back.
Remember the projects?
So a lot of big trades going on around the league.
Obviously none as big as the Luka trade to the Lakers,
but we have to talk about some of the other ones,
specifically one that happened in California as well in the Bay. So with the news that KD was not
interested in returning to Golden State, the Warriors shifted their focus to Jimmy Butler.
Last night, the Dubs finally got a deal done to bring the six-time All-Star in for Miami,
ending Butler's month-long feud with Pat Riley in the heat. It took five teams to get the deal
done. Let's look at the details of the trade. So Warriors got Jimmy Butler. He got Andrew Wiggins, PJ Tucker in the first round pick. PJ did
not last long in Miami. He was, where he at, Toronto now? He was in Utah, right? For the time being.
Pistons landed Lindy Waters, Josh Richardson in the second round pick. Jazz
got Dennis Schroeder. Did they boot him already? Oh, so yeah, so that's the new,
we're gonna hit that in a second,
but Schroeder in a trade to the Pistons for KJ Martin
and some other pieces.
KJ going to Salt Lake City, can you hear this?
All right, I guess I got to fuck with Salt Lake City now.
And the Raptors got Kyle Anderson.
Oh, wait, Kyle's staying with the Heat, excuse me.
Yeah, this shit is wheeling and dealing.
Shout out to underdog NBA, just a fan over there.
That was the news then
that's since been updated
to say the Heat are going to keep
slow-mo, a.k.a. leak higher,
as he's known in China.
So, there were reports
Jimmy Buckets wouldn't sign
an extension with the Warriors.
That proved to be capped.
Butler declined his player option,
signing a two-year,
$121 million extension
that will keep him with the Dubs
until 2027.
So, we don't have any Warriors fans
on the couch, but Gil, are the Warriors
the clear winners in this trade by getting
Jimmy Butler up out of Miami,
bringing him to the beta pair with Steph and Draymond?
Clear winners?
Or are there... I guess when it's
mutual that you don't
want him, he don't want to be there,
you can't say there's a clear winner.
We're both happy at this point.
They got Wiggins, they got a solid small forward.
I think they just got rid of what I guess they call a distraction for them.
I think both sides are actually happy with this.
And the fact that Gornasay got to keep Kaminga, you know what I mean?
You know?
I'll say 51-49.
Let's move over to this side.
Cemetery Laird, how you feeling about this move for Jimmy?
We were in this arena yesterday.
I don't give a fuck.
That was my sentiment.
Yeah.
Told you they can move around.
But it do look kind of good for him, though.
The international move-around symbol was?
Without the hate and the shade aside, you know me. You know me.
How Jimmy and Drermon gonna fare?
I don't know. That's why I say it's not giving a fuck,
meaning that you never know what the fuck could happen over there at any given moment.
You think Steve can handle that?
No. Hell no. Hell no.
I like the move.
But it's a challenge.
He might be up for the challenge,
but this is an opportunity for them to turn it around and look good for the tail end of the season.
You know, now pressure's on for Jimmy
because you cannot look like the guy that was in Miami.
But then you can't look like a totally new, different dude with this energy
because you wasn't hurt.
You was healthy.
So if you're taking it, don't cheat the game.
No, I'm not cheating the game.
Don't cheat the game.
No, I'm not cheating the game.
You're cheating the game.
You're playing like shit over here. You want to go over here all of a sudden. We ain't got nothing. Don't cheat the game. No, I'm not cheating the game. Don't cheat the game. No, I'm not cheating the game. You cheating the game? You playing like shit over here.
You want to go over here all of a sudden.
We ain't got nothing.
We ain't got nothing.
He wanted to get a championship.
If I want to leave, man, you mad at me because I want to leave.
He wanted to get a championship.
Because you sabotaging our shit.
No, I asked y'all.
I told you I want to leave.
Yeah, bring me some pieces, y'all.
Bring me some pieces, yeah.
Right, I also told you I want some pieces.
And you didn't do that.
So all right, like, I'm out. So you told you I want some pieces, and you didn't do that, so all right.
So you sabotaged me.
Who the fuck is you?
Huh?
The dude who got y'all to the finals twice.
With nothing.
The Sacramento.
Who the fuck is you?
Right?
Who the fuck is you?
We losing.
Coach got fired.
We winning now.
Right?
Nobody care about you sandbagging before what you're doing now.
So if he come out here averaging 30,
I know Golden State fans are like, hell yeah. Hell yeah.
I mean.
And then the Miami fans are like, fuck, why we trade him?
Nah, it ain't going to be bad.
The fans?
Nah.
The fans is loaded.
It's going to be, we know what Jimmy was giving us when we was winning.
And now we losing, we see what Jimmy was giving when we was losing.
Then he wanted out.
And now you're going to go over here and give him the energy that you was giving us?
Because of what? Yeah, because I'm not happy here.
Yeah, and I went to you to help.
Why are you not happy? Because I didn't give me what I wanted.
Exactly. You embarrassed me in front of the world.
You embarrassed me in front of my team.
You sound like the word. I like it.
You sound like the word. Mr. B, you like the move
for the Warriors or for the Heat?
For the Warriors, because this is it.
This is the tail end of their career. So if you're going to go out with a bang, why not go get a because this is it. This is, you know, this is the tail end of their career.
So if you're going to go out with a bang, why not go get a guy like Jimmy Butler who's, you know,
when the playoffs come, you know what he's going to do.
And if they don't go out with a bang, how valuable would Steph be on the Lakers
to help mentor Austin Reeves and Bronny and the rest of that young crew?
I don't need Steph no more.
No, I think you just let them just ride out how they go.
They can't play together.
Luka and Steph, that don't...
They'll figure it out.
Nah, Steph can play with anybody.
Play with Kyrie.
That's a small ass.
Luka play with Kyrie.
So can't...
Steph, Luka, and Brown...
So can we do enough to get them in the playoffs this year?
Okay, I was just about to ask.
Yes, yes, yes.
This year?
No, yes.
What I'm saying is...
Where they at?
Basement.
10th right now.
10.
That's not...
That's the basement, bro.
They still there? 10, 12 is the basement. They'll get them. 10th right now. 10. That's not... That's the basement, bro. They still there?
10, 12 is the basement.
They'll get in.
They get in the playoffs for sure.
7.
My question is, we're looking at some of these trades.
Actually, 11th right now.
Hold on, let me go back.
You got AD.
Because they lost last night.
Dallas, right?
They're trying to win a championship.
You got Lakers, got Luka.
They're trying to win a championship.
You got Golden State, they bring in Jimmy. a championship. You got Golden State,
they bring in Jimmy.
Playing championship.
So what I'm saying is,
you make, as a business,
you're making a trade,
signing an extension,
with the hopes of what?
Winning a championship.
When?
Till 2027.
When you look around,
when?
Now and next year.
To 2027.
That was the contract. Yeah. To 2027. To your look around, when? Now and next year. To 2027. That was the contract.
Yeah.
To 2027.
To your extent.
With current roster?
From now until then.
With current roster.
This is it.
It's the same roster you would have
because they didn't give up those main assets
that he was begging for.
What I'm saying is, what is the chances now?
Because the two teams that you're competing with.
Pijinsky.
They're just as or better.
But the Warriors done won with a team.
That's what I'm saying.
I know better.
And they know how to win.
But what I'm saying is the teams that are playing right now
for championships, they actually got better.
Yeah, but you don't think the Warriors got better?
No, bro.
No.
It didn't change the roster.
For to win a championship?
Nah. Yes, Butler is. There's roster. For the winning championship? Nah.
Yes, Butler is...
To get to this...
There's a 35-year-old Jimmy Butler.
No, but you got to put the team...
You don't think they get something else?
What Gil's saying is put the team where it is at 10th.
You add Jimmy, you go to 7th.
Y'all were just saying...
He's saying if you're shaking up the roster you're supposed to,
then you go from 10 to 4.
You go 10 to 3.
When Warriors was number one in the beginning of the year, everybody was go from well, man to board. Oh, they're going to three
Number one in the beginning of the year everybody was right
Like right right. It was right early. Oh, that was people not not noise way too early
What has been happening
Exactly is the hot start. Yeah, I see Jimmy Butler take that. Yeah, Miami. I's a hot start. I've seen Jimmy Butler take that. Miami Heat team to the finals. But that's the East.
That's the East.
He ain't been on this side in a while.
That's fine. Basketball is basketball. Let's go.
Are they better than Dallas?
No, it's not.
No, it's not.
Brett, don't do that.
No, it's not.
Jimmy Butler can go in there. Jimmy, it's not. No, Jimmy Bullock. No, it's not. Jimmy Bullock.
Jimmy, you got to see Ashman.
If we took the top 16 teams for the playoffs,
how many East teams would be in it?
All right, Paul.
If we top the top 16 teams by record,
how many East teams would be in it?
We are pulling it up right now.
Made out of 16.
Come on, man. It's not equal. I know, but it up right now. And 11 West. How many West? They all the same. 11. Damn, you can't count? You said 16, 5. 16.
11.
But they're stuck at 25, 25, 25, 25.
But they're in front of the East.
It's still more.
Does it help him?
That's what we're saying.
Still more.
Yes, if he's motivated to play the game.
Absolutely.
So you're looking good in the East.
Yes.
And Jimmy ain't playing.
I don't think he dogged it.
He is going dogging.
All I'm saying is, I don't think he got a lot.
And every pick, 16, I think 16 is your chance. No, what I'm saying is... No, my question is, even if he... And every six, 16, I think 16 is 13.
No, what I'm saying is, even if he's Jimmy Butler,
what I'm saying is, is he better than Dallas right now?
It would be 16.
No.
Okay.
They got to put the numbers next to the shifts.
No.
Okay, are they better than Boston right now?
No.
Okay, are they better than Milwaukee right now? No. Okay, are they better than Milwaukee right now?
No. They wasn't better than Boston or Miami.
So I'm asking you,
if you're Golden State Warriors
and you're making a trade for Jimmy
and that gets you to
fifth, gets you to
fifth, it doesn't get you to first, it gets you to fifth,
what's
the extension for right now?
What is your plan? What is your plan?
What is your plan to get to first?
Are you saying they went too fast?
No.
We're lucky.
We got our... Because you didn't have to extend.
You don't think they got a better roster than us?
What?
No.
I think they're better than the Lakers right now.
You don't think so?
Jimmy Butler?
No.
You think who's better than the Lakers?
Jimmy Butler.
It's just Luke.
We only got Luke in the rest.
That's it.
We only got Luke. That's it. We got Luka.
That's it.
Right now, that's it.
Golden State got better than Sacramento.
We just got Luka.
With Steph Curry.
Before them two, it was Lakers and Golden State.
Where are the two at?
Where are the two at?
Hold on.
Injury.
No, don't do that, Brandon.
Don't do that.
Brandon, Golden State not better than Sacramento. You crazy as hell. Rightjury. Whoa. No, don't do that, Brandon. Don't do that. Brandon, they're not better than Sacramento.
Right now?
Right now.
They just added Zach Levine.
They just added Zach Levine.
Do y'all know how good Jimmy Butler is?
They're not better than Sacramento.
Jimmy Butler's better than Boston.
They're not better than Sacramento.
And they're better than Boston.
They were better than Boston when they beat them in the playoffs.
Zach Levine, DeMar DeRozan.
But they did.
Jimmy Butler better than all three.
The bonus and Balanchunas just went to sack two. Yo. Man. I think we. What? Zach Levine, DeMar DeRozan. Jimmy Butler better than all three.
The bonus and Balanchunas just went to sack two.
Man.
I think we... What?
I know where Jimmy been on lately, but I'm telling y'all.
I've been in that, but if...
Definitely not been in that.
What I'm saying is...
Zach moved up.
Everybody has to sit there and play chess, right?
This is a chess game.
Lakers got better.
Dallas got better.
Sacramento got better.
Milwaukee got better.
San Antonio got better. San Antonio got better.
San Antonio got ready for championship.
I'm just talking about the championship teams.
So these championship teams who's trying to win a championship for this year and next year has gotten a lot better.
So you're spending this money right now with the plans of what?
You're still behind the rest of the group.
With the rest of the group having money also.
You don't got money.
You spent money you could have used.
What is going to make you jump in the next two years?
Man.
You got to make another acquisition.
You got to get another player.
That's fine.
We can't.
But we're moving in the right direction.
You got the money, though.
What do you mean?
Yes, somebody else is having to go.
Somebody else. Draymond can go. The Warriors don't worry about salary direction. We got the money, though. What do you mean? Yes, somebody else is having to go. Somebody else is going to go.
Draymond can go.
The Warriors don't worry about salary cap.
It's the Warriors.
Well, yeah, it's the championship DNA.
The new CBA has to make them worry about that.
Y'all would have made moves already.
They just made one.
They just made one.
This wasn't a move that you made.
That's a championship move.
This was a dump ball.
Jimmy Butler's a championship move.
This was exactly what Luka just did.
Listen, KD fucked.
I just told y'all. KD fucked the deal up.
KD said, I do not want to go there.
That's like dumping the main chick.
The main chick said, I don't want you.
You got to settle for the second nigga.
You got to settle for the second nigga.
Hey, bring Jimmy then.
Come on.
Bring Jimmy.
That's cool.
That's fine.
KD said, no, I am no longer attracted to you. That's fine. You have Bring Jimmy. That's cool. That's fine. He said, no, I am no longer attracted to you.
That's fine.
You have gained weight.
That's fine.
And you do not work out anymore.
That's fine.
Okay?
That's fine.
I'm looking for bigger and better things.
And how is it working out in Phoenix?
How is it working out in Phoenix?
How is Phoenix working out?
How is it working out in Phoenix?
You're going to get to do with the eyeliner.
You're talking about her.
You're going to get to do with the eyeliner.
One at a time, fellas.
One at a time.
You're going to get him. That's fine. You're going to get him. That's fine. We're going about, hey, one at a time, fellas. One at a time. You're going to get him.
That's fine.
You're going to get him.
That's fine.
We're going to be good over here.
I like it.
We'll keep ours.
I like it.
What I'm saying is who cares about if Katie went to Golden State,
that changes everything.
Like that kind of heightens y'all one or two championship odds.
Jimmy Butler doesn't do that for you.
Next year, these same teams
is in front of you.
You're going to have to land
another star in the summer
just to get in front of the teams right now
with them having money
to get another star.
They're better than you guys right now.
You're a Lakers fan, sir.
I'm a Luka fan.
That counts.
Go to state is better than y'all right now.
What are you talking about?
These teams,
go to state is playing for them.
You've been saying that shit all season.
Your ass is being rocked all season.
You always say someone's better than the Lakers.
Where are we at?
It's about even.
What?
It's about even.
The Warriors don't have nothing.
They didn't have anything.
Yeah, it's about even.
Jimmy Butler?
It's about even.
It's Steph and Jimmy.
I don't know.
Y'all got Jimmy. Steph and Jimmy. And Luke. Draymond stuff and Jimmy. I don't know
in Jimmy and Luke Draymond
That's a matchup see what happened that's crazy who is better Jimmy or Luca
Okay, who's better LeBron or or what you need? Okay depends on what you need
You know what this Luca you want rebounds Luca you want points Luca? What what what you looking for next? I want somebody that could change the whole
It's five guys on the court fucking
tournament
That put out Tatum and brown and fucking white and once here by itself, I'm getting that guy
Hmm by itself hooked them. I'm getting that guy. By himself. Pucked him. I'm getting that guy that
pucked him.
Two years ago?
Three years ago.
He did the same thing to
Giannis.
He did the same thing.
He went down the line.
Three years ago.
He still got it.
He still got it.
Giannis was hurt.
I'm not happy where I'm at.
I'm not happy where I'm at.
I'm not happy where I'm at.
I asked y'all for help.
I didn't do nothing.
So we asked.
He just softened.
He pucked people.
We asked to chat are the Warriors
They're clear winners in the Butler trade
Confident coffee you was there he was drinking it. It was the caffeinated
It wasn't like you don't know what we talking about. He was tricking me. No. I thought it was caffeinated.
It wasn't caffeinated.
He went with the little guy we hate on the Lakers.
He went with what's the, what's the, Vincent.
He went with Vincent Martin, motherfuckers, to the finals.
All liquor stores.
They found him in front of 7-Eleven and told him come play with Jimmy.
How long ago was that?
They took him.
How long ago was that?
Two years ago.
It don't matter.
How about now?
It do matter.
They ain't been to the liquor stores since.
The Lakers ain't been to the liquor store since.
The Lakers ain't been to the liquor store. The Lakers ain't been since.
The Lakers picked them up.
We're talking about their championship.
So we asked the chat,
are the Warriors the clear winners in the Butler trade?
58% said no.
Damn.
We also asked the chat,
did the Warriors get better after the Jimmy trade?
51% said yes.
51.
51-49.
So, Kenyon, yesterday on the show, you said that Jimmy Butler put his nuts in a vice grip,
I believe was to quote you.
Has he released his nuts from that vice grip?
His nuts are now freely dangling.
Okay.
Just making sure.
He's gotten them back.
He's gotten his nuts back.
Two-year, $121 million.
I said Jimmy waived his player option for this summer.
We'll sign that two-year deal through 2027.
So, back to what the conversation was on the couch.
Jimmy Bucket, six-time All-Star,
helped lead two underwhelming heat squads to two finals appearances.
Just say AAU so people understand.
YMCA.
I can't use big words?
No, not right now.
Put a name on it.
AAU or YMCA.
So the casual fans understand how bad the team was. We're going
to give them this credit here. AAU, YMCA.
Let two AAU slash YMCA level squads. AAU is better than YMCA though.
Fast.
24.
It shifted early 90s.
It's a crunch to the fucking finals.
It took a crunch level squad. It took the crunch thing to the final.
But as we pointed out on this couch, this season he hasn't looked like himself
while trying to force his way out of Miami.
So let's take a look at some numbers, courtesy of our friends over at Underdog NBA.
Shout out, Justin Phan.
So 17 points per game and 5.2 rebounds a game.
Lowest since the 2013-14 season.
His 4.8 assists a game.
Lowest since 2019.
Steals lowest since 2013. Field goal season. His 4.8 assists a game lowest since 2019. Steals lowest since 2013.
Field goal attempts lowest since 2014.
21% usage rate lowest since 2015.
But now he's teaming up with Steph Curry and Draymond Green
to form something like a big three in the Bay,
if you want to call it that.
Does a Jimmy Steph-Draymond big three
give the Warriors a chance in the West?
It's a media.
It ain't large size. They for sure. a chance in the West. It's a media.
It ain't large size.
They for sure.
It's a Big 3.
So what is Phoenix?
It's an entry level three.
Phoenix is a Big 3?
They would have been a Big 3.
I mean, one half is just 18.
So are they a Big 3 or not?
Two and a half, two and a quarter.
Two and three-fourths.
Rally Bill now. I mean, the average is 18. Yeah, that's what it says. See, I need to just say fucking Bradley Bill now.
I mean, he averages 18, so, I mean, technically, yeah.
What did Jimmy give you to get to the finals?
What was his stats?
Do you think his stats was anything like that?
It was just a game changer, bro. Can I ask you a question?
Can I ask you a question?
Was his stats anything like that?
His stats don't...
His stats don't what?
Don't tell the whole picture?
Don't tell the whole picture.
But what story does it tell just looking at those?
Just looking at those.
That I'm not happy.
All lows.
That I'm not happy.
All lows.
I'm not happy.
A decade ago.
Jimmy could take the star player out the whole equation.
So I'm asking him right now to look up the stats for Jimmy Butler before the Pat Riley comments.
Which one? Over the summer?
Mm-hmm. Before the Jimmy...
You shouldn't have...
What was Jimmy averaging before that?
Damn!
What was he doing before that?
He got put up...
He didn't even shoot, though, bro.
He didn't shoot?
I mean, shit, he came in the league 2011-12,
so some of them shits is...
He averaged... He averaged...
He averaged 13.
This year?
Lois since 2013.
Yep, that was his third year in the NBA.
Oh, 13-14.
13-14, yeah, he averaged 13 points that season.
Y'all been somewhere that y'all didn't want to be there,
and y'all played the same way.
Let's just keep it real.
If you don't want to be somewhere, you're not happy. You ain't going to add the stars.
The 2012-13 season, he came off the bench.
Bruh.
It's self-inflicted. He just said, you walked right into the fucking vice grips, bro, and
said, oh, what's this?
Let me tighten these.
I'm letting Pat right here.
Goddammit. So much as I didn't want to be in Denver, right?
It didn't affect the way I showed up.
And when that ball went up, that's all that mattered.
Right?
So you got to, if you want to get out of, I was playing my ass off to get out of there.
Yeah.
Right?
I get that. Damn not showing up to do my job.
It ain't got nothing to do with them people that sit on the sideline or upstairs at that point, dog.
It's about who you are internally, what you built on, what you
stand on. Right? I'm not
going to watch that motherfucking dog it.
But if I'm not happy somewhere,
hey, man, get me out.
It does.
If I'm a star
and I come in there asking you for help
and then at the same time you're disrespecting
me in front of the world. So I'm going to do more.
I'm going to do more.
Instead of tucking your tail,
so you're going to tuck your tail.
I ain't tucking my tail.
Yes, it is.
I'm a man.
If I don't fuck with you,
I'm going to take my business and tell you I'm not.
You're not going to show up and play hard and get like...
And what's your value?
I'm not playing hard for you.
I'm telling you I want...
It ain't about you.
It's about the head.
It ain't about them.
It ain't about them.
It should be about you,
what you built on in turn. What you stand on. It's about you. It ain't about them. It ain't about them. It ain't about them. It should be about you, what you built on internally, what you stand on.
It's about you.
What you stand for.
You are the, it's your value.
The team value. It's your value.
The team value is the value.
Yes, bro.
Your value.
I'm already established.
You're not.
No, no.
17.
Timmy is already established.
No.
What the fuck are you talking about?
No, Nick, that's what he expected from you.
My team is worth $4 billion.
17.
You play here or you not.
My value stays my value, sir.
Your value drops on your play.
And mine stay the same, too.
Your value drops on your play.
No, Nick.
17 points a game.
It goes down.
What just happened?
What are the stats?
Can I give you the stats?
Can y'all give me the stats?
What just happened?
If my value went down, I would have never got paid.
Okay.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We're about to find that out.
How many millions did he lose?
Jimmy averaged 21, 6, and 6 on 50% shooting before the Pat Riley comment.
Now he's at 17, 5, and 5.
I don't want to lose it to Max.
Four-year, 184.
He signed four-year, 184 in 2021.
Summer of 2021.
That's a drop.
Wait, wait, wait.
So what would his extension have been?
If he was averaging 22 right now?
If he was still normal.
Yep.
It would have been up.
He'd have paid him.
He'd have fucking paid him.
He just signed an extension.
Was it what?
What?
I think 2021.
Let me double check if there was.
No, no, no.
This new one.
Two for 121.
121. 121.
So he had that $52 million player option.
He declined the player option,
so he's going to get two for 121 over the next two seasons.
So he basically...
60.
Added about...
60.5.
But he added $70 million to what he had.
What was his extension would have been in Miami still?
To your 150?
To your 140 something?
Close to that.
What would he have opted out?
Opted in?
No, just the extension.
Oh, wait, hold on.
Like when that extension he was trying to sign,
what was it for?
So I'm checking right now, but he's saying something about the over 38 rule.
I just want to see how much it cost, if it cost him, so we can answer your question.
His value not going down, bro.
Somebody want him.
I don't care.
Value, a value?
Hey, Nick, what gets older?
What gets older? Nick, what gets older what gets older?
What gets older and get I get value at the same time if I'm trying to get a hundred million from you and I act Stupid right what and I go somewhere else
I'm not
If I go out and get 85, but it's saying they could only
Another person like me, I'm gonna go with her.
But if it's a deep value.
No, it's not.
Because she don't look like she's not as...
Warriors is a better organization.
Yeah, I'm about to say, you think...
So the better organization moves.
I mean, I ain't no cap expert,
but according to ESPN, because of the over 38 rules,
Jimmy could have signed a two-year, $113 million deal with the Heat.
But now he signed a two for $121 with the Warriors.
Two what?
So he could have signed a two for $113 with the Heat.
Two for $113.
He signed a two for $121 with the Warriors, though,
so I'm not sure how.
So that's fate.
Yeah.
So Luka fucked up there.
He lost a lot of money.
Yeah.
His value was fucked up.
But you love him.
Yeah, he got the. So what's the difference?
My personal love for somebody
don't got nothing to do with their value.
So is his value still the same
or it's messed up now that he lost $113 million?
Lucas.
He got devalued on a trade.
So is his value still the same?
He, his contract got devalued.
Lucas' value is devalued.
As Lucas Dodgers is...
The person know his contract reflects because he got traded but his value know Jimmy's value across the board him as a person
Money for Luca what he's his value didn't go down somebody want him so your value his his value didn't go down the Warriors
wanted him
What are you talking about?
If you're worth a hundred million
And you'd go for 50 you got paid
But you didn't get paid your value
Your values a hundred million. They got 50 same with Luca. No, it's not the same with Luca. What are you talking about? Did he just lose $150 million? Yeah, he got you.
Yo, I would've made a whole fucking mess.
Because he can't sign with Luca, man.
But that means the manager didn't want to pay the motherfuckers.
You ain't got to keep trolling, nigga.
You're going to get all the way in the back.
The manager didn't fucking pay him $150.
He didn't sign in the whole mess over this bitch.
Oh, yeah. You got it. I do got it. I know I got that. I'm in a whole mess over this bitch. Oh, yeah. You got it.
I do got it.
I know I got it.
I always got it.
What are you talking about?
Been having this since I was born.
Get a C.
Hold on.
Trying to get to this bottom of this extension.
Get a C.
Brother knowledge.
Stay over there.
I ain't called you brother knowledge in a long time.
Yeah, so everybody's reporting two years, 121.
But it was saying that he could only gave him two years for 113 or something.
So that's the max.
So what do you mean?
I don't understand where that other eight.
Incentives.
Yeah.
So it's basically an incentive deal.
So most likely.
Playoffs.
Finals.
Two year, 195.
Finals MVP.
Trade kicker or some shit.
Yeah, that's a bunch of stuff.
Two million for the finals MVP trade kickers
And that's why he didn't want to sign a situation because he wasn't gonna get
The money so it's all a bunch of who was it over what eight million dollars, maybe
Hmm. No, I don't think that that extension was on the table with the heat 20 million I'm saying the 113 compared to the 121. Yeah
The word no, no, but what I'm saying is if it's like we got to figure out what his base value is.
So guaranteed, let's say it's $95.
So now to get it up to $121, like if you win finals MVP, we'll give you a bonus.
If you win MVP of the NBA, you get a bonus.
My question is what was they offering him for him not to be pleased with the offer?
Probably what was what was the man? What was Pat's number and him saying nod? I think I got to a point so he wanted that extension this past summer Pat Riley said shut your mouth and
We need you to be out there performing in order to get what's that number?
I don't know if there was a two-year. It's the same. No, I'm
Offering me there. Okay, so they put it on the same two-year deal? No, I don't think they offered him anything. I don't think they... So they basically put it on the table. Those contract talks broke up when Jimmy...
So how could he say they didn't give me what I wanted?
He was saying that's the reason why.
Because they didn't offer him.
Because they didn't offer him.
Jimmy basically said,
fuck you, I'm going to bet on myself this season
and try and get my bread.
So he jumped the gun.
Yeah.
Because he wasn't performing for me
to even want to offer you.
If you're giving me 22, Jimmy,
during the middle of the season,
I ain't going to hesitate
because you're an asset now.
You're so valuable. You're hot. But he was eligible to get this extension in the summertime. That's, I think, what the middle season. I ain't gonna hesitate cuz your ass said now you so value you hot
But he was eligible to get this extension in the summertime. That's I think what the point
Well, I still think he's in a good situation, but we not in a rush if we fucking with you
So you shouldn't try to rush us to pay
Yeah, he was after that
Listen to what Pat was saying like Jimmy, let's get ready to win this shit
Don't be talking when you're on the side. Chill, relax. He ain't saying it like that.
He ain't saying it like that.
He told him to shut up.
Yeah, he told him to shut up.
Shut up and dribble.
Shut up and dribble, basically.
That hit different.
That hit different.
I'm trying to get that money.
Yes, boss.
Yeah, boss.
You got it.
You got it.
I don't have a problem.
Because I know exactly what happened to Luca.
Right?
You get traded, sir.
That's a hundred and something million dollars automatically off your pocket.
Gone.
You are worth more home than you are away.
Right?
So anybody who gets traded, your money going there is already down.
So if a motherfucker tells me to shut the fuck up,
I'm going to shut the fuck up,
I'm gonna shut the fuck up until I sign that deal.
Because once I sign the deal, it's guaranteed.
I'll be talking again.
Then I get an ass of a donkey in here.
And I'll be talking again.
Pulling pistols on TV. Shooting him in the back.
Bop!
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
My bad, brother.
You know what? I want to say sorry for that.
I'm tired of shooting you.
I don't want to say sorry, but I'm gonna say sorry
because you endured some pain that day.
But unfortunately, it was your fault.
You're the one who brung the BB gun.
Are we ever gonna get along?
You got shot with your own gun.
People think we don't like each other.
You got shot with your own gun.
What if I brung the gun today?
You shot your ass right now.
Hold on!
I was in the car, motherfucker.
You was in the car? Go get your other one. You was in the car, motherfucker. Go get your other one.
This is in the car?
No, not in the real one.
Oh, I was going to say, I was about to call security.
I don't think he got a license.
Shout out Medina.
Check the car.
Check the car.
I don't know what made me think that.
I was thinking I was going to scare this motherfucker.
We got to hit another trade real quick that impacts the arena.
So K.J. Martin, Josh Richardson,
the second-round pick,
were traded to the Pistons for Dennis Schroeder.
How you feeling about that move for K.J.?
You gotta go to Salt Lake with the musty air.
That's a fucked-up play.
It's an opportunity to hoop, man.
Oh, he went from Detroit to Utah?
That's better.
Oh, yeah, man.
Like, I just stand on what I'm...
Just opportunity to go play basketball, man.
Like, I...
My feeling don't change about it.
More convenient, LAX, saw, like, two-hour flight on Delta.
Definitely is.
Eight-hour.
About 2.15.
Hour 15.
Whatever it is, you get the hoop, man.
Just like I said yesterday, same statement.
Apply.
Just get the opportunity to play hoop, man. Just like I said yesterday, same statement. Apply.
Just get the opportunity to play basketball, man.
Uninterrupted.
Team not that good.
They're building for the future,
so hopefully he can get an opportunity to go down there and just rock out.
Like I said, it doesn't change.
His approach doesn't change who he is as a player.
Just a different arena.
So...
Drop that poll for me if you could.
Go and be you, young man.
Like, we know you are, so.
So shout out to KJ.
Has been on Gil's arena before,
watching the show diligently today.
Hey, if you need any help with the workers' compensation,
I'll set up a plan for you, bro.
You set up a nice little budget.
It's Utah.
You're going to be starving.
And I know prices is cheap out here.
KJ wants to know what number should he wear with the Jazz,
number 8 or number 99?
8.
99.
Player 99.
Player 99.
Player 99.
I'm going big numbers.
Player 99. I'm going big numbers. He's been single-digit his whole life. 99 player 99 Big numbers is layer 99
Big number single digit life. He won a zero he wanted double zero is taken he wanted me he has single digits
I'm 99
How do you suppose the holler the girl black? What number are you? 99. 99. 100 almost.
She going to be like, yes.
All I need is one.
You're a football player.
99.
All I need is one to make my 100.
Baby, what's up?
What you going to do?
We 99.
I got 99.
Hey, you want to be my 99?
That is some real pimpin', y'all.
Now I'm conflicted.
You made us sound good.
99, I'm doing it.
Hey, I need the jersey.
You get the 99, I want the jersey.
Because J. Crowder wore 99.
J. Crowder did wear 99.
Darren Williams, Patty Mills, Rudy Gay all wore number 8.
I'd just also like to point out Rudy wore 8.
Rudy wore 8.
He got a ring.
Patty did.
Wait, wait, wait.
Rudy did.
Rudy Gore wore work. No, Rudy Gay. Oh, I'm about to say. Rudy weren't. He got a ring. Patty did. Wait, wait, wait. Rudy did. Rudy going where it weren't.
No, Rudy Gay.
Oh, I'm about to say.
Oh, yeah.
We were not.
Now, why he was hated?
Wait until the other thing gets his leg.
Just also like to point out, number 54 is available, KJ.
You can bring pie back to the number.
Definitely not wearing 54.
Bring pie back to the number, sir.
What about 4?
Definitely not wearing 54.
So we asked the chat.
58% of the chat said KJ should wear number 8 with the Utah Jazz.
So shout out, KJ, for watching. What did the chat say? 58% said the chat said KJ should wear number 8 with the Utah Jazz. So shout out KJ for watching.
What did the chat say?
58% said number 8.
42% said 99.
What about 83?
Hell no.
Niggas get cut for that number too.
Niggas trying to get bitched.
Any number you get, man, get this ass thing out of here.
And you come in that bitch with 83 on, boy.
You don't know what's going to happen.
Yeah, that's right.
Coach be like, hey, man, who the fuck is 83?
He going to cut him.
He going to trip over Yeah, that's right. Coach be like, hey, man, who the fuck is 83? He going to cut him. He going to trip over his shoestring right away.
You get cut for numbers like that, bro.
I'm telling you.
Like, did you pick 83?
You're going to be watching movies,
and like the villain has a whole bunch of hostages,
and then they just pick one.
Yeah.
Like, is he going to kill you?
83 stands out.
Absolutely.
Like, the fuck is this?
Come on, man. I didn't think I was serious. Just because you ain't serious. I didn't think I was serious about shit. This is gonna kill you 83 stands out
These two like 99 KJ
Got a crowd would have never wore it there. Wait, eight? That's what I'm saying.
What's your college number?
Four.
Times two.
He's the second.
Eight.
Oh, man, look at your brain working.
Boy, look at you.
He's a junior.
All right, well, listen.
Look at you doing that good math, boy.
Keep it in the Western Conference.
I thought you was going to say 12 or something.
Just add another four to it or something.
Yeah, no, he wanted to do that.
That made him a senior.
That's what I'm saying.
You got to.
I said 12.
You're like, wait, hold on.
So Scott Layton, he was the owner, right?
Scott.
Of the Jazz?
Yeah.
Andy Wayne.
Scott Layton.
He was the GM, right?
Andy Wayne.
So Ryan Smith. So they gave him number one.
They retired it.
Ah, shit.
I was looking at the numbers.
I thought he was in the front office.
Ryan Smith currently on the Jazz.
I think D-Way, Minority.
Two plus two?
Adrian Dantley got four.
Doing Clarkson. I'm surprised.
Double zero. Two plus two.
Surprised he's still there.
Y'all rolling with double zero now?
I thought...
22?
That's Clarkson.
He wanted it.
That's Clarkson.
But I thought you expressed an opinion.
Oh, I think it's disgusting work.
KJ know I think double zero is disgusting work.
That's Kyle Watson.
If you think it's totally...
That's Kool Henderson.
You kind of messed up
because you went from averaging 20 in Brooklyn.
He cool now.
He ain't out there with the goggles on.
Ain't that kind of fucked up?
Looking like Kevin Durkworth.
This is the business, man.
But he don't get it.
Like, he turned down 84.
Then you think you're going to get some money after this.
You averaging 20 for the first, like, 30 games.
Who that?
In the stroller.
And then get traded.
And then get traded again.
So, let's talk about,
so I heard that it wasn't an offer for 84.
It wasn't an offer.
It wasn't an offer.
So he never turned it down.
Oh,
so he never got offered for him to be like,
nah,
I'm going to fuck that 84.
I'm going to go and try and get this.
It was speculated that they were gonna.
Yeah,
it was going to.
Sure.
Because then how do you go to the free agent?
Like, your value's so high.
How do you go to free agency market?
Yeah.
Like, I think it was reported.
I don't think it was never going to be that offer.
If you report that offer, though, Gil, think about this.
If you report that that's the offer and it's not, right,
if somebody put that out there, every team is going to be like,
that's way too high for him.
Nah.
That wasn't too high for him nah no I wasn't too
high no but what I'm saying is okay no not that time he was hooking let's say it's 84 though
you're talking about you had a good year right and you're going to the free agency market and
no one offered you because 84 is my number to match no no because all right okay wait a minute
no that's why everybody's like 84 then that means his number was higher than 84.
It could be.
So he's turning down.
He might be turning down deals, and then money ran out.
So think about this.
If LA releases that they offer him that, let's just say they leaked it, right?
When you think about it, like.
They leaked it.
They know 50 million.
It hurts him.
It hurts him if it's not real.
There's no.
But what I'm saying is there's no.
It hurts him if it's not a real deal. You agent hurt him. It hurts him if it's not a real deal.
You say, oh, we're going to give him 84.
Every other team is looking like, well, if it comes down from that, we'll try.
You don't go for 84.
But you don't sign it with the Lakers because they don't offer it to you.
So it was never real.
They never offered it.
What I'm saying is you had a good year, right?
Even if the number was 84 84 somebody threw it out there
When you're going into free agency someone's asking you what your ass is
So the fact that you signed a vet mint that makes no
That means you standing ten toes down on yeah, yes forget 84 but you was on a number
It wasn't if that number had nothing to do with 84,
it wasn't even nowhere close.
You got to pay for Milano, right?
20.
You got to pay for Milano.
So he averaged 13 and 5 that season.
So but according to Schroeder, he
was advised by his then representation
to return that number.
Oh, yeah.
He was advised.
Because he said he would never leave money
on the table like that.
Yeah, he was advised.
So it was put out there.
His agent told him that this was the deal, and we're not going to take it. We can get you that. Yeah, he was nice. So it was put out there. His agent told him that this was the deal
and we're not going to take it.
We can get you more.
Yeah.
And I always tell players this.
He said,
I would never leave money
on the table like that.
My mom didn't raise me that way.
So it must not have been
told to him.
It wasn't.
He didn't know.
This is what I do.
Like, when you go into
free agency...
Because that time...
Right for him to turn it down.
He told two people
around that time
to don't take the money.
The tall nigga, the kid from Dallas that went to New York. Yeah, I remember. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, he told two people around that time, don't take the money. The tall nigga, the kid from Dallas that went to New York.
Yeah, I remember.
Yeah, he told both of them, don't take the money.
Was it Dallas?
You're talking about the 84?
The agent from Schroeder's agent.
No, was that Philly to Dallas?
No, no.
Yeah, yeah.
Philly to Dallas.
No, yeah, no, no.
No, no.
Philly to Dallas. They had the same Noah. Yeah, Noah. Philly the Dallas.
They had the same agent.
Yeah.
Oh, so he was doing that.
Yeah.
He was doing that.
I remember that.
Because remember, he signed a big, that was his second contract.
Who?
Noah?
No, Schroeder.
Because he signed a big contract.
You ain't going to go from signing a big contract that.
Atlanta.
13 a game.
You should get something.
Yeah. That's why, look, when you go into free agency, man,
it's just for anybody.
You should have your own number in your head.
But do you think his mind was like,
yeah, I'm finally about to get some of that back?
Yeah, but you got to have your own number.
I think he was told by his reps at that point,
you can get more than this.
Yeah, yeah.
So don't fuck with it.
But that's what I'm saying.
You got to understand the bit.
Someone's going to get fucked, right?
Because Ruffa called out and did that and hit.
So have your own number. Like, yo, I think I'm saying. You got to understand the bit. Someone's going to get fucked, right? So have your own number.
Like, yo, I think I'm worth 55.
So if you hear anything over that, you should understand,
okay, I'm good with this.
If someone jumps up, cool.
But worst case scenario, I'm going to take my 55,
and that's what I'm worth.
What do you think he would have took?
After he took 35?
What do you think he would have took?
35 on the table?
Dude, that messed up for the whole. Like, like you can't never you can never get that back
Maybe you can't never get that
Any way 84 for you think about 84 for four right you sign a bit
I know you gonna get that back but like do the NBA frown upon that like this turn out money
No, the team frown upon the other team. I just offered you money you turned up. Yeah, I team is like that's what happen to Noel
Yeah, Dallas offered him right coming off the bench average and nothing. He wasn't averaging nothing. It was all prospect
Oh, he turns it down. So they say well fuck you to
Free money. That's what I think about it. You're telling me fuck me. I'm a bitch you
Like a regular I got you on the shelf and I'm paying you and it's like, just chill, bro.
Bringing him back. He was good.
Bring his stroller back. Come on back, man.
Speaking of the Lakers, Nick,
we got some Lakers news to discuss as well. After the
Lakers landed Luka this past weekend,
a lot of talk about who their starting
center would be following the departure of Anthony
Davis. As you may recall, AD
had some controversial comments
about begging the front office to bring a Pro Fischer 5 to the Lakers.
Well, AD got his wish.
Just so happens not while he was on the team.
Those questions were answered last night.
Here's what Shams reported.
He said, the Lakers are trading Dalton Connect, Cam Reddish, and a 2031 unprotected first-round pick and 2030 pick swap to the Charlotte Hornets for center Mark Williams.
So the Lakers pair a 23-year-old seven-footer in Williams with Luka, LeBron, Bronny, and company.
In 23 games this season, Williams is averaging 16 points per game, 10 rebounds, and 1.2 blocks
while shooting 58% from the field.
And in the 15 games this season, Williams has played 20-plus minutes.
He's averaging 19 points, 12 rebounds, three assists, and 1.4 blocks,
shooting 59% from the field.
So Gil has left the arena.
He may or may not have gotten some trade news.
He may or may not have had to relieve himself.
I hope he got traded.
Uh-oh.
Uh-oh, he's back!
He's back!
What is it, Gil?
Ah!
Oh.
That's for you, I think, about K'Nect.
Uh-oh.
I'll give you a chance.
Yeah, I had a 20-minute conversation with him.
Gil, you have left the arena.
You have returned with a body bag. Who is that body bag?
Dalton connect
Dalton connect is in the body bag Gil. Why is Dalton connect in the body bag?
What should he have done if he wanted to remain a Laker as the ball to the Prince
We tried to warn you Dalton how to Tried to warn you, dawg.
You out there trying to get your numbers when
the stars out there.
Uh-huh, you looked the other way, so did they.
This is what they had to do.
He gonna get his numbers.
He gonna get his numbers, but not as a headliner.
You get your ass on that first boat moving out of the goddamn city, goddamn it.
You think you're going to tell my son?
You're going to look my son off?
You're going to look my son off?
Go to Charlotte.
I thought that was kind of bad.
He was talking about it.
He called me last night.
It's brownie time.
Because I was a little upset about the connect thing a little bit.
I felt like that was a little too much.
Your skin couldn't save you here, boy.
You're lucky you wasn't black.
You shipped that nigga to China.
Yeah, I swear.
We didn't bring him to China, so where?
With an Indian contract.
Shanghai shorts.
Get ready to learn Chinese, boy.
I think I put grease on his face.
God, this is...
Mm. Get ready to learn Chinese. I can't put grease on his face.
God.
But back to Williams.
Like I mentioned, averaging 16 points, 10 rebounds,
one block per game this season.
Those numbers increased to 19 and 12 and three assists
when he plays over 20 minutes.
Has eight double-doubles in the game.
He's played over 20 minutes.
Gil, is Mark Williams a perfect fit at center for the Lakers?
He was older than a motherfucker, too, though.
I had to...
Just like everybody in L.A., we had to gobble him.
I was like, who the fuck is this?
We didn't watch Charlotte basketball, man!
You should have, Gil. That's why we have Leafs at.
We don't know who Lameellow was passing the ball to.
I'm not going to front.
All we knew about Charlotte is
All we knew was
I didn't check your stats or nothing.
We trying to connect for this liquor store nigger.
I had to Google it.
Oh, she succeeded 10?
Oh, okay.
All we do know about Charlotte is
players getting in trouble. so we don't know.
We know Mello.
We know Brandon.
Brandon.
Kind of.
Kind of, yeah, we kind of.
We know Brandon kind of.
What's his last name?
Miller.
Miller.
So, uh...
I don't know nobody else after that.
Mark Williams in his third season in the league,
but is actually younger than Dalton Connect, who's a rookie in his third season in the league, but is actually younger than Dalton Connect,
who was a rookie
in his first season.
The one concerning area,
he's missed a lot of games
in his three seasons in the league.
Due to what?
Just various injuries.
A teenager on that MB level
in terms of games missed.
Any knee problems?
Is it knee problems
or just like...
That was in Charlotte.
Is it Anthony Davis type of injuries? Let in Charlotte. Is it Anthony Davis type of injuries?
Let me pull it up.
Anthony Davis.
Bambi legs.
And like toes, you know what I mean?
And shoulders, knees, and toes.
Remember he did sit out for like three weeks for a stomach problem, right?
Nervous.
Let me see.
He'll get butterflies when he play.
Dalton Connect.
Back issue in year two. Three. Let me see you'll get butterflies when you play Don't and connect
back issue in year two
free Dalton's free
Freedom or to show. All right, okay. I mean I'm cool
We got a big man. Is there got three big man? No, no, we got huh?
Is there any other beings we could have got cuz I feel like we could have got more for Connect.
Yes.
No, no, not for that.
No, you need to get off Lemon Daddy.
You would have got something real nice.
I don't know what y'all thinking.
Lemon Daddy better than Connect.
He not.
Get rid of Lemon Daddy.
He got more value.
But he not the better player.
Get rid of him.
You would have got somebody good.
You said Connect is better than Connect.
Turner or one of the bigger, bigger, bigger, bigger big.
But now you've got to settle for the Duke player, right?
J.J. Redick, man, short of man, Duke.
It's a favorite pick.
Somebody that played like Lively and Gafford.
And that's what Luka was asking Ron Palenka for.
Give me a center that's like Lively and Gafford.
I don't know.
I could throw Lobster.
Yes. Like you just said, you haven't watched Charlie play, so I don't know. I could throw lobs through him. Yes.
I don't know.
Like you just said, you haven't watched Charlotte play, so how do you know?
I have.
I have.
He plays like.
The sportscaster.
Y'all want to hear the sportscaster talk about him?
We're going to hear about what the Charlotte Hornets sportscasters have to say.
Can we play the clip for Rashad against Art Will?
Against Art Will, no.
We haven't checked this out.
We have an advantage over him.
Against Art Will.
You got it ready?
Paolo's pulling the clip.
While we take a moment to pull the clip.
Here's the thing, Shannon.
I'm just going to say it.
I'm okay when shots are missed.
I'm okay when errors happen.
But if there's at least effort, I can live with those things.
Mark Williams has put together a first half that I've never seen I'm okay when errors happen, but if there's at least effort, I can live with those things.
Mark Williams has put together a first half that I've never seen from a starting center at the NBA level. Stop it. Stop it. Stop it. Stop it. Stop it. Stop it. Stop it.
Before you speak, this fucking Terrence Oglesby, dog.
I get it. I get it.
But point being is not to talk about the negative things, right?
Because there are things that all players have that are bad habits.
The one thing the Lakers got out of him is the long arms for sure,
lob threat, all of the things that AD did as far as the passing availability.
Defensive liability, though.
Defensive liability.
I'm going to just – Defensive liability like I'm not even talking to this shit.
Defensive liability like ever. Terrence Oglesby.
He's a big body, but...
They got a lot of that.
Terrence, I do not trust
your word. You said
bigs. This was the worst
performance you've seen from a big.
So you must have just got
into the NBA within the last 10 years. Because I know a
whole lot of bigs. Who do you know?
That I played with that, trust me,
way worse than
them on a best day.
Can we increase the
pace of 2025, please?
I know where you're going.
I mean, Dwight Howard was the best
big I had, but I've had a lot of bigs
that wasn't scored.
We don't want any names.
Put a name on it.
No, I don't need to put no name on it.
So you talking about my dog, Brent Haywood?
Mm.
Mm-mm-mm.
Could be.
What about Etan, Tom?
What about Etan?
What about Etan?
Could be.
Sometime.
Andre Black?
Ooh, ooh, ooh.
Here's a powerful one. Yep. Tommy Brown. Nah, ooh, ooh, he was a power four. Yep.
Tommy Brown.
Nah, I don't remember.
Was he a power four?
He was a power four for us.
Oh, okay.
So who you talking about then?
Say his name, homie.
Say his name.
Say his name.
Tupac, say his name.
Oh, listen, I don't go back down to the basement, brother.
Okay.
I don't go down to the basement. Motherfucker roaches down there.
Roaches and rats.
As a reminder, we record this show in Gil's basement.
I'm just saying let the janitors stay down there.
You hear me? It's the first floor.
It's the first floor. Let the janitors stay down there doing janitor shit.
Okay?
We do janitor shit every Monday through Thursday.
We done seen some worse sinners in history,
so brother, stop with the cap.
Yeah, but I don't...
How many NBA minutes you didn't play, dude?
Chill out, bro.
Chill out.
This is Mark Williams for the Hornets.
Stop the short.
Damn, he's talking.
It's not Mark Williams for the Lakers.
Not at all.
Lowering that trade value, good job, sir.
You know, you got the call. It's different environment for y'all, man. It's a different environment for the Lakers. Not at all. Lowering that trade value. Good job, sir. You know.
Different environment.
You got the call for y'all, man.
It's a different environment.
Lights is bright.
Lights is bright.
Got two bonafide superstars.
You're going to be playing hard.
You're going to play hard.
We better.
One thing you're going to do.
Or you're going to get cussed out by JJ for damn sure.
Mm-hmm.
You're going to be cussed out by LeBron.
You're going to be cussed out by the fans.
I'm going to say the fans.
Fans are going to cuss him out.
Hey, y'all ain't cussing nobody out.
Cheating.
Not nobody out.
Is it cheating again to not play hard on this team
and then to play hard on this team?
Nah, man.
Nah, man.
Just nah.
No.
No.
To preserve your body for a better situation.
Every situation's different, man.
Yeah.
Some people bringing the best out of you.
Huh?
Yeah.
I cheat on this girl,
don't mean I'm gonna cheat on this one.
Why you can't bring the best out yourself?
It's just like that. Some people do bring the best out of you.
You can, but your environment can be messing that up.
Like, you can be trying every day.
It just ain't getting.
It's like, all right, I got to move on.
You're a product of your environment.
No.
I'm going to say a prayer.
Yeah.
You're a product of your mentality.
You cheat on every girl you date?
It's hard to have them.
You cheat on every girl you date?
I never had a girl. sack of shit that's lying sack of shit you never had
they call me they man you like that yeah i never never had a girl like that pink thing
hey samantha
this is my favorite hey amber, Amber. This is Samantha.
Susan, how you doing?
I mean, listen, if he's a decent sinner.
Sarah, nice to meet you, too.
But honestly, you don't think we could have gotten better? If he's a decent, got better what?
We didn't give up nothing.
We got, man, Connect is all right.
Connect is a 23-year-old about to turn 24, averaging 9.
You don't even know. We're good. Y'all didn't give up. 23-year-old about to turn 24, averaging 9. I'm good.
We're good.
Y'all didn't give him.
You didn't give him nothing.
We're good.
You didn't give him nothing.
Mark Williams is also a 23-year-old, younger than him.
No, look, Kanek is really good.
But you gave up a rookie.
You gave up a rookie.
You gave up a 23-year-old rookie.
But you could have just did both.
What I'm saying is, what is his future?
Do you know who's 23 years old?
Ant-Man is 23 years old. Jalen Brown and Sangoon's 23 years old? Ant-Man is 23 years old.
Jalen Brown and Sung Goon is 23 years old.
So if he's averaging nine and acting like a rookie at 19, I'm cool.
What I'm saying is, is he acting like a 23-year-old or is he acting like a rookie?
If he's acting like a rookie, then I'm going to get another 23-year-old who's acting like a real
23-year-old. How can you act like a vet when you're
playing with LeBron and AD?
You can't. I can't show you Ant-Man
when I'm fifth option.
Or you're just not Ant-Man.
I could be. I showed you 37.
I showed you 37.
Yeah, that young rookie just going out there
getting down near 40.
What rookie is doing that?
He's 23 coming to the NBA.
That was the norm for a minute.
That was the norm in the 1990s.
99, 2000.
Everybody can't be...
25 years ago.
Same year as the cash money takeover.
Everybody can't be Anthony Elwood.
Like the guy who got traded, right?
He is 23.
He's younger.
Been in the league three years.
And nobody knows who the fuck he is.
But he's averaging 16 and 10.
I don't know that.
You feel me?
16 and 10 as a 22-year-old.
That's better value for me.
But, all right, so if he averaged more than that,
once he get there, what that means?
Can that get...
Nah, nah, nah.
I can't agree with that.
Because you're saying he's 23.
He's averaging 16 and 10.
But what year is it in his league?
Third.
Third year in the league.
Third.
So this is Dalton Connect's first year in the league.
He's averaging nine.
Better values with Dalton because I got three more years for him to grow.
No.
Mark Williams is younger than Dalton Connect.
Yeah.
I thought they're the same age.
Younger, though.
But he's younger, though.
Like a couple months or so. Yeah. Like six months. What I'm saying is he's in his third year in theick. Yeah. I thought they're the same age. Younger, though. But he's younger, though. Like a couple months or so.
Yeah, like six months.
What I'm saying is he's in his third year in the league.
Right.
24.
On the ass thing.
Mark is on his...
So 16 and 10 is not his rookie year.
But it's his eighth year.
I know we know that, but what he's saying...
Because...
Well, I'm talking about from experience-wise.
If you gave Dalton Kinnick three years of NBA experience,
not talking about just the age of him coming into the league,
he would be way bigger than those numbers of Mark Williams.
No.
So what you're doing, you're saying when Dalconnect gives you three more years of experience.
He'd be 26.
So whatever number he has at 26.
It has to be bigger than Mark's.
He still has three more years to get to 20.
It's by age, not years.
No, it's not, bro.
It is.
Look, your years of experience
count.
No, yes, because it's not
pro experience. My four years
in college does not
count as pro years because I'm at
a certain age. You don't
say because I'm 23,
it's one year. Just because I'm
23, I'm still a rookie.
Zach Eady's still a rookie.
You can't say he has more experience as a pro than Mark Williams.
He's in his third year as a pro.
So Mark Williams spent two years at Duke, three years in the league.
So this is technically his rookie year in the league
if you want to compare it with all the connections.
That's exactly how they do it.
They do not do it by your years.
They do it by your age.
I'm talking about experience.
Experience.
Experience.
So if you gave Dalton Connect another year, the numbers would look similar.
He would be averaging 17 and 7 and 3.
It would never look similar because right now they're in the same class.
Right? They're in the same. If they were
freshmen in high school, you
can't penalize one because he was smarter
at the same time. No, one came out earlier.
One came out two years earlier.
Because he was better. No, he wasn't.
Because he was seven foot.
He went to two. Because he was ready. Bro, no.
Because he was ready. No. He's not ready.
He is ready. He was not. It took him three
years to get to 16 and 10.
And he's 23 and he's only averaging nine?
This dude did four years.
Wait, wait, wait.
You have to do four years of college.
So Mark Williams,
Mark Williams, rookie year in the
NBA, 2022-2023,
averaged nine points and seven
rebounds. Nine points. Okay. Nine points.
It's rookie year. At 20. After
two years in college. Okay, at 20.
Two years in college. At 20.
So he's 23. Right now he's a
rookie averaging nine. Nine.
First year in the league. I've never
played professional ball.
And he's playing with Bron. And I'm playing with
Bron and AD. And AD.
He's playing with LaMelo. I know what you're talking about.
And AD.
He's playing with LaMelo.
I know what you're talking about.
LaMelo ain't been playing.
I have a freshman playing the same.
But you can't say that.
He just went to Duke.
As a junior in high school.
But one went to Duke.
What I'm saying is.
He got more attention.
If the freshman's averaging nine on varsity and a junior is averaging nine on varsity,
who has the most
value at this point? The freshmen.
Because I could be going to a big school
and you could just go to any school and play
right away. That's why you can't say that.
Yes, it does.
There's a reason. You could be
playing against these little public school kids
averaging 40.
How old is KJ?
Just turned 24. Just turned 24. How old is KJ? Just turned 24.
Just turned 24.
How long has KJ been in the NBA?
Since year five.
There's a reason.
No, there ain't.
Some people get more like the others, too.
Because he's younger. He's younger.
He's younger.
I have a five-year experience in the NBA.
If he was... If KJ was a rookie right now, Five years. He has experience in the NBA.
If he was, if KJ was a rookie right now,
it would be tougher for him to move around because he has no experience.
We would be moving him on pure potential.
Pure, look at this kid.
Athletic, boom, boom, boom.
But we can't play him because he ain't got no experience.
We got to let him play.
He got to be in the league more.
He want him to go to Utah so he can actually get a chance to play.
He hasn't played.
Let it be known.
Let him play.
Experience.
Don't connect.
Experience versus somebody who hasn't. You're not experienced.
Exactly.
Mark Williams is.
That's why they moved him.
So if I have a 23 year old and a 20 year old
learning at the same rate as
rookies
They're learning at the same rate. No matter what you say one is 23 one is 20 getting the same
Information right, right. So when one turns 23 and one turns 26 you put them at the same
Information but the information the 23 year old has now will be what have been better than the 23 year old before
That's how you grade it. Oh, no, you're great it
I'm grading you on your age at At 20 years old, you was a sophomore in college.
He is learning NBA information.
That's facts, bro.
No matter if you like it.
That's facts.
The data is the data.
That's facts.
The data is the data.
That's facts.
A younger is always going to go before.
I'm not going to agree with a failing system.
But I'm not going to agree.
You're not going to tell me that that's how it goes.
It's wrong.
It's wrong. It's goes. It's wrong. I hate it, but it's wrong.
It's true.
It's wrong.
I was in there with the Denver Nuggets,
and that shit was on the board.
It's wrong.
What's on the board?
They got your name, your fucking position,
and then your goddamn age.
I talked to my GM.
First.
And they got that shit to the month.
Why did you tell people?
Go ahead. They got that shit to the month They got this shit to the month
right, they know when your bird like they got your
Your date of birth again when you come like if it's June they got
0.6 on your shit. So they know exactly when you turn in the next age
Like this is
Ready, but your GM would talk to my gym John Hammond Hammond. I asked him the other day, I said,
because we were talking about the college and overseas thing.
I said, why did you pick me at 10?
Like, what was different between me, Johnny Flynn,
Drew Holiday, Ty Lawson, and all this?
He said, because you were playing a grown man's game.
Early.
Like, my experience of playing a grown man
and my experience in college when I was in workouts,
it was totally different from everybody else.
So that's why they picked me.
Were you younger than all of them?
Yeah, and I was younger than everybody.
You and Drew Holiday are like the same age.
Because them dudes played in the system
when they was in school, right?
Their individual talent was there,
but them dudes played in the system, right?
Yeah, they draft on potential.
So they played in the system.
Everybody know that, but that don't always
mean it's a good choice.
No, what I'm saying is think about the older players.
Think about the older players.
Oh, he ass.
Think about four-year seniors, right?
Like when you're coming in, you're dominating, right?
You have to be dominating if you're coming in as a senior and a junior, right?
You don't have the same leeway as a freshman or 18 road.
That's a fact.
Right?
So you got to come in like with Dame and all them.
You look at Allen Iverson.
You look at Jimmy Butler.
You look at, like, you don't have room for the, you don't have a curve.
You got to get an aim.
Like all them dudes was ready to play.
You got to be ready.
Kerry Kittle.
Ray Allen. Allen Iverson. All them was ready to play. You got to be like, Kerry Kittle, Ray Allen,
Allen Iverson,
all them dudes ready to play they went three years.
You have to be playing
at your age level.
You don't have,
you don't have room
to fuck up like a person.
Wait, so,
are you saying
Canick's supposed to come in
averaging 20, 30?
You got to be averaging about,
for you,
for me to be looking at you
as a future player,
you got to be,
I got to look across.
So listen, so listen.
You know there's data.
The younger you come in, the younger you go out.
The younger you come in, the younger you go out.
It's all about opportunity.
Period.
That is.
No, that is.
Come on, man.
So let's see this year when he plays with Charlie, right?
So let's see if his numbers go up.
It's all about opportunity, man.
For real.
Right?
And it's on what the team is planning on doing with you in the future
when they draft you young, right?
Darius Miles went to a horrible situation as a fucking kid
coming into this league as the third pick in our draft.
He goes to a different organization, a different team, his career is a lot different.
Because he had all the tools.
Younger, like to your point, younger.
So it just depends on the opportunity that you are put in.
The situation you put in, the opportunity that you are given
within that.
There's been a lot of guys who we thought could go
that was really good, young, went to a bad situation,
and then now people call them a fucking bust
because they didn't pan out.
Right? Picked them young.
Potential was there.
It's the wrong situation, not a lot of opportunity.
For sure.
That opportunity is there, man.
Like me going to the Wizards.
So, Shaw, real quick, we're going to keep it moving.
As a business owner and somebody who likes to hire people,
I want to make sure the resume has work experience.
Yeah.
I'm going to make sure that not only the work experience
there, the reputation is there.
And if some accolades are there, cool.
I'm not saying I'm not going to hire potential.
I'm going to look at across the board who's going to help my business.
Who's going to help my business the best.
Not necessarily who's going to fit in their positions.
Who's going to fit the game plan and overall vision for my business.
Not just because I'm going to pick the best available because he's young.
And if I teach him right, he'll be good to lead the company and right
now on the day-to-day operations I need experienced workers who know what the fuck they doing they're
not gonna talk back they're gonna take the vision and they're gonna go fucking execute that shit
that's as a business owner what I look for so if I gotta if I got if I got potential so you need
role players first but no no you draft you draft young No, what I'm saying, what he's saying is perfect, right?
Yeah.
America is finding out in real time, right?
Whatever your degree was, master's whatever, when you go into the workplace, what do they say?
You don't have what?
Work experience.
Work experience. So you with all your degrees or a dropout.
It don't matter.
Y'all are learning at the same time.
You're learning an internship, the same information.
You got fucking four degrees.
He has none.
But the information you're learning is at the same level.
But here's the deal.
Your place in line is if you didn't go to college, you only have a high school diploma.
If you did four years of college, not only do you have a degree?
You might have a master's you might have a
Turning at the same time
What I'm saying is you got it if we're more equipped to be hired before you we're
So in this situation, I'll put it this way right here
What you're saying is right what you're saying is right they gonna tell him you're overqualified for the position
Depending on what I know what the vision is
If we're building all shit, but now you manage some shit. We don't need to manage it. So seniors they are holding so now
Guys that didn't went to school learn how to play.
They're overqualified.
You're overqualified for this position.
You're doing too much.
You're bigger.
So now you're holding the game.
Don't connect.
He's too big for this position.
He's too qualified.
He's too qualified because he understands how to play.
And we know he's going to be disgruntled.
He's going to feel it because he knows what he's supposed to do.
We're not allowing him to do it because his space is so small. He's bigger than his space.
Don't you need both of these?
Yeah, that's what he said.
But I'm going young first. I'm going to go get my older guys later.
D-Wade wasn't a role player.
That's what I'm saying. But you have to play like D-Wade.
You have to come in like that.
That's what I'm saying.
Like right now. Because I just take, I put me in that situation.
I only can look at me, right?
So for my, like I look at, so I graduated high school in 96.
Kobe and them got drafted.
Kobe, Steve, all of us came out of high school in 1996.
They went to the league, right?
I went to college.
My freshman year, not a lot of playing time.
My sophomore year, I started.
Got better that year. Got better my junior year. Show growth. playing time my sophomore year i started got better that year got better my junior
year show growth got better my senior year by the time we all were turning the same age they were
going into their fourth year in the league i was about to get drafted well i was getting drafted so
some of them dudes had panned out some of them not but by the time my rookie year came on i was ready
to play because i did the time but i got better on, I was ready to play.
Because I had did at the time, but I had got better every year.
The same progression that them do, it was just different.
They was learning the program.
They had more experience than you did.
I was getting better at basketball, right? Yep, yep.
I was getting better at basketball.
They had more experience, but I was getting better at it.
Foundations.
The foundation of it.
So when I showed up.
You could be taught very easily.
But even that class had a mixture of young, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely
Even your draft
Thinking about taking so richly they were thinking about taking there's miles and one I think the NBA is better with balance
But if the NFL does it a way that you have to be at this.
Easy.
Everybody has the same plan.
Yeah, because you have to.
Everyone's the same plan.
Yeah.
So it's easier.
Yeah.
Because you're not allowed to have freshmen coming out.
You got to do three years.
So you don't have to compare to no one.
Right?
So NFL, that's how they do it.
Right.
I'm going to put all these people in the same level, at the same age.
You tell me now where Connect fits money-wise compared to his age group.
All right.
We have R.J. Barrett.
23.
23.
R.J. Barrett.
You're asking me where he compares.
R.J. Barrett.
And money.
Cam Thomas.
But what are you asking, though?
Just to be clear on that.
Who's Raph Klaas?
I'm just going to name a bunch.
You tell me where they're going to rank.
Rank in comparison to what?
Their talent.
You're not telling me nothing.
Their talent.
If you had to pay them, if they're all up free agents,
and they're all asking for the same money,
who are you going to give, let's just say, $100 million to?
Okay.
Right?
R.J. Barrett.
So you're saying that Dalton Canucks is going to be in this group?
Age. R.J. Barrett. By his age. You said 24-year-olds, right RJ Barrett. Are you saying that Don connects is gonna be in this in this group age?
RJ Barrett by his age. Are you saying we're all year olds, right? Yeah, 23 24 years three to Cam Thomas. He only has one year experience. I'm Thomas
Scotty Barnes, even though he's a little bit younger Jalen green sangoon
Shit Zion Shazayan, Chet, Cade, Evan Mobley, Tyrese Hallenbur now, right now, right now, right now, they're all the same age.
But when I said that, you said he's a role player because he's 23.
What I'm saying is all of them are the same age.
If they're all getting $100 million, would you right now give Dalton to connect $100 million compared to where he is in his play compared to those guys?
I'm drafting all potential.
No, just pay him.
There's no potential.
Right now.
These guys are averaging 22, 23,
one's an all-star.
But why do I have to give him any?
Because he asked for it.
He didn't ask for nothing.
If he did.
He said just if he did.
I thought he don't do hypotheticals.
But we are in this situation.
Let's keep going.
Frank Wagner.
I'm going to get none of those.
Frog Wagner.
Tyrus Maxi frogna
Darius Garland
lamella ball
Paulo Benchero shit. He's only 21
Right. So when when the young boy when you're a business you're looking across the board to see where your guy value is
It's a value system. I am not going to value
my 23-year-old with a 19-year-old.
They're on two different levels.
Bro, I'm not going to hire
no 19-year-old to code for me.
He never coded before,
and I got to just take on it.
I'm not going to do it.
No.
You was a star.
I'm taking that star.
You wasn't just drafted 19-year-olds
like it was like... It's very rare. It was like... Very rare, bro. You wasn't just drafted 19-year-olds like it was like...
It's very rare.
It was like four weeks ago.
Very rare, bro.
You had to...
Wait, wait, it was very rare?
Three percent.
It was three percent.
Yeah, it was something you had to beat somebody.
The percentage of the high school kids that came out and panned out.
Oh, yeah, that's because...
And panned out, very rare.
You're saying panned out.
No, no.
How many high school kids that came out of high school right now that you can name in the NBA right now that came out of high school?
I bet you the percentage is less than 5%.
And how many 20, how many?
Everybody else went to college.
Hold on, they're not even in the league anymore.
Because they had to.
We had to go to college.
Everybody else went to college.
The one and done rule.
We had to go to college.
Don't do that.
Don't do that.
Because college is cooked.
If the one and done rule is, college is cooked.
A lot of niggas is not going to college. You're saying not gonna come rule wasn't lifted a lot more guys would come out for sure
That's a fact. That's a fact. You think they're all ready? That's all right there already. That's a fact if the number
It's like that now the reason they
The reason they changed the rule... Everybody's young and dumb.
They don't know the shit about shit.
The reason they changed the rule...
No, no, no.
No, no.
The reason they changed the rule, it was getting oversaturated with them dudes that wasn't
ready to play.
Yes.
Yes.
Exactly.
Being lied to because they, from this small town, they averaging 44 in high school, and
they dudes think they ready for the NBA. Now they go get an agent, and they put their name in the draft, and they do think they ready for the NBA.
Now they go get an agent, and they put their name in the draft, and now they done in a year.
Two years because they not ready to play.
Now they done, right?
And overseas.
So now they...
I mean, that's the same thing.
It was more of that.
That's the same thing in college, though.
Y'all college coach was lying to y'all about stats just to help them.
He was lying to us about what?
Oh, come back a year.
For what? I'm ready to go. Like, y'all was getting was line. That's about what Oh come back a year for what?
I'm ready to go when I was getting like
My coach to me to come back and we won the championship who cool
I was predicted I went to the same place. Oh, predicted. You know what I came back with? A championship.
I came back with a championship.
With college coaches, it's about job security, man.
100%.
With college coaches, it's about jobs.
For sure.
That's what I'm saying.
It's the same thing.
That's why they play upperclassmen, dog.
Listen, yo.
I'm not going to risk playing no fucking freshman.
So me and Cameron went to the physics in Cincinnati, right?
It was this guy Cameron question of durability, right, on the team.
He got a lot of playing time in the game we watched.
And I told Cameron, look what year he is.
He was a senior.
I said, would you rather, if your job was dependent on it,
who are you going to depend on?
This freshman don't know shit, really,
or this guy that hasn't been around for four years.
If my job depended on it, I'm going with this that ain't been around for four years if my job depended on it
i'm going with this guy that's been around for four years like that's just what it is with a
lot of these schools right a lot of businesses period in the last in the last 25 years right
the last 25 years or 24 of the best player in college Do you know how many actually made us an all-star? It's not about all our bro you you switch okay?
No
Wars and she we ain't talking about points. We're talking about the best. It's about Mark Williams
This is came from all the way from Mark Williams. I'm asking you how many people how many how many you think pinned out?
Yeah, he ain an all-star.
He ain't panning out.
We don't know yet.
Don't connect versus Mark Williams.
I'm asking you a question.
We're talking about the best seniors in college.
Well, why?
Because it's the best of the seniors.
How did we get here, though?
We're the best of the seniors.
So we got Edie twice.
We see where he's at right now.
We got Oscar.
What the fuck is this?
Sheboy.
But no, it's not a lot of seniors that get drafted.
We got Luke.
I know.
It's never been a lot of seniors that got drafted. Okay, do we got ob-tons every year?
2019 a freshman wanted
So if a freshman wanted wouldn't you already know how he's playing an NBA right now Zion?
Jalen Brunson doing shit Jalen Brunson Jalen
But go ahead
Yes, yes
Jalen Brown what year was he senior junior? He's a junior, right? So we can say he's the only junior-senior that actually is balling at the next level.
Then Frank Manson.
Buddy Hill.
Frank Kaminsky.
Doug McDormand.
Trey Burke.
The next one, another freshman.
Anthony Davis.
Former election. Jimmy Fredette. Anthony Davis. Former election.
Jimmy Fredette, Evan Turner, Blake Griffin.
He was a sophomore, right?
I believe so.
Talon Hinesborough.
Tyler Hinesborough.
Another freshman.
Another freshman that's coming up, Kevin Durant.
You're talking rarity in between guys who last in the league,
like blue- blue collar workers.
You got the blue collar college guys that come in and do what they fit to do.
And you got the special college guys that if you were a four year guy, you go first.
You're expected to do 10 plus years, period, period.
So Edie, Kenyans, all the ones that stayed in college, did their time and they get drafted 1, 2, 3,
4, they expected to do
12 to 15 because they know what they're doing.
Because they know what they're doing.
Everybody else in college that
got drafted that didn't pan out and last
is because the league is oversaturated with spots.
We're all fighting for the same spots.
Yes. Let's keep
this thing going.
It depends on where you get drafted.
It's just like baseball. You light Let's keep this thing. It depends on where you get drafted. It's just like baseball doesn't. You light skinned, nigga. We're going to walk all over you. We
don't care about this. You get tennis and baseball. Soccer, yeah. Right? You're going after the youngest.
Golf.
So let's talk about a player who didn't go to college.
Only football is regulated by, like, age, right?
And women's basketball.
And what's so funny, no bullshit,
the two people who tested it,
Claret and Williams, right,
they would have been top five being young still
because they were young.
That was the whole thing.
If they get in early, those two would have left.
Mike Williams, right?
Mike Williams, yeah.
And then the NCAA or I forgot, somebody returned it, which forced them out.
They didn't play the next year.
One still went fucking 10.
Mike Williams?
Mike Williams didn't play one whole year.
Yeah, because that damn boy at Ohio State. Let's keep this thing moving. One still went fucking 10. Mike Williams. Mike Williams didn't play one whole year.
Yeah, because that damn boy at Ohio State.
Let's keep this thing moving.
Let's talk about a player who didn't go to college,
but big things are expected of him.
That's Luka Doncic.
Make his Laker debut on Saturday against the Pacers.
In the meantime, the Lakers posted these pics of Luka in Lakers threads for the first time.
Let's take a look.
He looks skinny as shit.
Yeah. 271. Let's take a look. And he looks skinny as shit.
271.
God is good all the time.
He got that big back.
Luka looking mighty slender in the purple and gold
and ready to play some elite defense by his standards.
By his standards.
Elite by Luka's standards. Crazy. Gil. Elite by Lucas standards.
You crazy. Gil, what are your
expectations for Luka and his Lakers debut?
Supposed to be Saturday against the Pacers.
At home?
At home.
It's on the road.
It's about 25-99.
99.
It's on the road.
It's on the road at home. 25-99. It's at Staples. I'm the fuck if it's on the road at home. 25, nine and nine.
It's that, it's that, it's that samples.
You know what?
I'm giving him 30.
He might fuck around and have trouble double.
You know why?
Because I think LeBron is going to sit out that game
just so Luka could do his thing.
Nah, nah.
You know how LeBron do.
You crazy.
You know how, he actually, he got acclimated.
LeBron not missing that.
He got acclimated.
LeBron like attention.
Trust me.
LeBron like attention. LeBron know what he doing. He going to acclimate him. LeBron not missing that. He got to acclimate. LeBron like attention. Trust me. LeBron like attention.
LeBron know what he doing.
He going to acclimate him.
LeBron love attention.
Yeah, LeBron love attention.
He definitely going to be at that one.
Psych!
Sorry, but that's offensive line.
Whenever you can be at your son's,
be at your son's, play online in high school,
nigga, you want some attention, nigga.
I don't want that.
Hut, hut, psych!
And he know when them lights is on.
What?
And then LeBron's dumping on every conversation.
Watch.
All right.
He ain't sitting out.
Nah, he ain't sitting out.
He ain't sitting out.
He'd be a fool to sit out there.
And that game was on what?
TNT, you said?
The first live, Lucas and LeBron.
Oh, yeah.
He going to let Lucas do this.
The first live, Lucas and LeBron.
You not stealing my moment.
Nah.
You not stealing that moment.
What you think this is?
It's your moment. They talking right now. It was lunch.
This is your moment.
This is the script, Luka.
You know how big that picture is?
How much money that picture will be?
Until I'm gone, you will be right by me.
I'm playing today.
Look at me.
I'm playing today.
You playing Saturday.
What's today?
From Color Purple?
You're both playing another Tuesday.
You will be right by me until I'm gone.
I tell you that.
I promise you.
Can you picture that first lap?
When the Luka-Bronchik actually does play together for their first game, it'll be their I'll tell you that. I promise you. Can you get to that first lap?
When the Luka-Bronchik actually does play together for their first game,
it'll be their first time playing together in a non-All-Star setting.
How quickly do you expect Luka and LeBron to make it work on the court?
We heard Ty Lue yesterday say LeBron can play with anybody.
We've seen what Luka was able to do with Kyrie get into an NBA Finals.
Now they are paired together.
Both ball-dominant, but...
I think they just finish out this year strong.
That was not the question, Mr. B.
Boy, that band did lose it.
Right? That was not the question.
Shit, boy.
Boy, we just got a center.
We don't know about him yet. I'm not rolling.
That's what I'm saying.
Just get ready for next year.
16 and 10 with two passers?
Two guaranteed passers?
Man, 16 and 10 on the Horners to Gary and 16 and 10 on
On the Hornets is like six and fuck our seven points
Okay, I mean I got Eagles out if he's the Hornets points compared to like how was he getting his points with it?
Oh, like layups and they got a willing pastor. Does he know how to set screens or not?
We done yeah
Protection is longer than win be yeah set screens or not. That's what I'm saying. Do we dunk? Yeah. Okay, good, good. That's why LeBron and Luka average weight.
Rear protection is athletic.
It's longer than Wimby's.
Yeah.
The 9'9 inch reach.
A lot of low-key things.
Luka said he needs
somebody to throw the ball to.
I mean, Luka and LeBron
are willing pastors, so.
He can turn Jackson Hayes
into Ivory,
a little bunch of Ivory.
They like the same type
of looking person.
Jackson gonna be hanging out.
He gonna get to...
He gonna play?
He ain't gonna play?
Yeah, he'll play.
A little pick and roll.
Mark Williams, I think, will average about 25 minutes a game.
Hey, he's athletic.
We treat him like we did the Wizards, man.
The Wizards be pick and move.
Pick and move.
Luka gonna be doing his Luka shit.
Yeah, I was about to say, you gonna do your Luka shit.
Luka gonna be doing his Luka shit.
I'm not gonna fight. I'm not gonna fight this. Ah, ah. Ah, ah, ah, ah. Ah, ah, ah, ah. I'm not gonna fuck.
I'm not gonna fuck.
So that big, y'all just got?
The Lakers?
If we average a 16 to 10 over there,
imagine what they're gonna do with this play with the Lakers.
Because it just ups.
Let's just go 9 and 8.
What is JJ going to do?
9 and 8.
What the fuck are you talking about JJ?
Wait, what you said, 9 and 8?
You gonna sit there and run around doing shit?
That ain't what I signed up for. And a 10? No, it's a double, double? You gonna sit there and run around doing shit? That ain't what I signed up for.
And a 10?
No, it's a double, double.
That ain't what I signed up for.
What am I supposed to be doing over here?
Twiddling my thumbs?
What am I doing?
Yes.
What am I doing?
Do we need to call JJ?
Do we need to call J.K. and ask him,
what was you doing?
What was you doing down there?
He was coaching.
Look.
He was coaching there.
What Pat Riley did in 81. So you're saying JJ don't coach. Look he was coach. He was coaching there. No, but that Riley did in
They don't coach what
Anyone that's what he gonna be doing just you guys just put your clothes on look nice walk up and down call
Yeah, I'm out draw little plays that we're gonna ignore right?
But do he got that type of team to do that because Pat Riley had juggernauts on that team, you know.
Magic and the Cavs.
You got it on the board.
JJ got shit to do.
He got...
Wait, what'd you say he had?
Who on the...
He had Magic.
Hall of Famers.
He got a group of Magic.
Hall of Famers.
And we have who?
We got two.
Hall of Famers.
They had four.
He could walk up and down.
They weren't four when he had them.
Whatever they were, they got him three
He got three championships in a row. Yeah, these two niggas are not one
So you can't even compare yourself to a three-peat motherfucker to a no-peat motherfucker
AJ ain't coming close to winning no championships with no ad and Luca
I mean, uh, Luca and LeBron on this expect us like wait, you don't think any. We don't have any. I mean, Luka and LeBron. Don't disrespect us like that.
Wait, you don't think they got a chance to win it?
You think they do?
Yeah, man.
I think everybody got better.
Just let me know.
Look, text me before y'all come in here with this bullshit.
Just text in the group chat, we on bullshit today.
Pat Riley, number three, Peter Winslet.
We on bullshit today, Shai.
Don't come in here.
We on that shit.
I want this clip, right?
And we're going to run it every damn day.
We on bullshit.
Until I get bored of hearing it.
We on bullshit.
They will not win a championship together.
James, what team is better than the Lakers?
We on bullshit.
Right now?
The team that's ahead of them?
The Celtics.
You think if the Celtics played the Luka with LeBron James,
them shooting all them threes, doing that bullshit they do,
you think they're going to beat against a group that both drive?
They're both going to...
They both don't play defense.
They both don't play defense.
Y'all not ready for Boston.
Y'all not ready for Boston.
You're about shooting three.
Look how they play the game.
They just chuck threes.
No, they do.
They do.
You're talking about a group who just...
If Boston plays the Bucs, I have the Bucs on the style they play.
I bet.
On the style they play.
That's one of the styles they play, though.
You go 13 for 40 against Giannis, you lost.
Did you see that game?
You lost against Giannis.
You lost against Giannis. You lost against Giannis.
You have to be in threes.
Because Giannis is getting free throws. Giannis is not
fucking around like that. So what's the offense you're
going to run for the Lakers? The same one
we run against the
Golden State Warriors when they fucking crying the whole time.
We can't get to the free throw line.
Because you want to shoot threes against them.
They're playing bully ball.
I'm asking you to, like, I'm asking you as, like,
what is L.A. going to run for Luka
that they haven't been running the whole time?
One and three pick and run, son?
Yeah.
The same shit in Dallas?
Yeah, yeah.
Pick and roll with him and Bron?
Yeah, whatever.
Same shit in Dallas?
Whatever you run in Dallas.
Yeah.
Nah, you can't do that.
I have LeBron James. What's that mean?
If LeBron don't have the balls, that don't
mean nothing, really. What LeBron James
been doing for the last four years?
What I'm saying is, if this
man can, I'm going to give the ball to
Luka. What's the secret sauce?
You can't double him, right? You can't double
him because LeBron James is on the court.
When LeBron James gets in the post to get us an ice or you can't double him because we have Luka on the them, right? You can't double them because LeBron James is on the court. When LeBron James gets in the post to get us an ice,
you can't double them because we have Luka on the court.
Right?
So.
Wait, wait.
We don't throw it to LeBron in the post.
He's not really a post player.
LeBron's been getting doubled every time we touch it because.
I know.
Everybody else sucks.
Yeah.
But now we have someone on the court that don't.
I know.
So you got Luka and LeBron, but who else though?
A.R.
Austin Reeves. Okay. The best third option you got Luka and LeBron, but who else, though? They are. Austin Reeves.
The best third option in the NBA.
He got a team, man.
Rui's been playing very well lately.
Rui thought he was about to get changed.
Like Giannis, you can't double Giannis
like you want to no more.
They got Dane.
You try to, what's the name? We got Giannis.
There's a reason Giannis is playing out of his mind.
That court is open.
But they had Kyrie, though.
You can't double Luka and you got Kyrie, too, though.
Don't do that to him.
You're going to scramble him up.
Don't do that.
But Kyrie's a good one.
You're going to scramble him up.
Did they double Kyrie like that?
They didn't double Kyrie.
They just put someone big on Kyrie.
He don't remember.
He don't remember.
You have to.
Like, when LeBron drives, who's at the rim with him?
Who's at the rim when Kyrie's there?
The guards are still jumping.
Oh, everybody got to remember.
LeBron drives.
Move out the way.
So he can dunk.
Yes.
Move.
Get back on defense.
There we go.
Don't foul.
Don't foul.
Don't foul LeBron going to the game.
Don't foul LeBron.
You should foul him every time.
He shoots 50% from the free throw line.
So, yeah.
Because you got unlimited.
This is the big three.
So, Lakers take on
the Warriors tonight.
Lucas scheduled to make
his debut on Saturday.
Gil, you say LeBron
will not play.
He'll give Lucas the shine.
I don't think he'll.
I think LeBron
will be out there.
We got to get that
guarantee win.
Pacers.
We need the dub.
Playing the Pacers?
We need the one.
Pat Mahomes coming.
So, they're playing
the Warriors tonight.
Playing the Pacers on Saturday for Lucas. Warriors tonight. That coming in. So they're playing the Warriors tonight, playing the Pacers on Saturday for Luka.
Warriors tonight.
That's LeBron by himself.
And then Saturday should be the debut of LeLuca Bronchick.
How many times have they played?
Is Jimmy playing tonight?
No one cares.
I don't know if I get to see my son this weekend, man.
Better carry.
I don't have to see my son.
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Let's put five minutes on the clock.
We normally do three, but it's trade deadline.
It's a special day.
We're going to bump it up to five because y'all are going to skip past
and burn past that three minutes anyway.
So we've seen various teams make big moves to try to upgrade their rosters
before the All-Star break, but I need to know,
what team improved the most at the trade deadline?
What team improved the most at the trade deadline? Mr. B? The size of the Lakers? Improved the most at the trade deadline? What team improved the most at the trade deadline?
Mr. B.
Besides the Lakers?
Improved the most.
What team improved the most
at the trade deadline?
Let's get the clock rolling.
We're going to start with Mr. B.
The Bucs.
Mr. B.
Why do you feel like
the Milwaukee Bucs
improved the most?
Got Jericho Sims.
Kuzma.
Just got Kevin Porter Jr.
Kevin Porter Jr.
We got a guy that come off the bench.
Championship experience.
Championship experience. Championship experience.
Championship experience.
We know how vital and essential that is to the team.
We've seen it in the Wizards.
Boy, it was helping us.
His experience was helping us.
It should have just blown the Wizards up.
It should have been a Wizard.
Milwaukee Bucks and Golden State.
You said the Milwaukee Bucks on the Eastern Conference, Golden State in the West but Bucks is your yeah number one team
What team got better? Let's move on to swaggy P NBA champion NBA championship experience
Use that to fly Southwest of the bay out of Burbank. What team improved the most of the trade deadlines waiting? I
Will say
Of course the purple and gold. One of us.
And...
Why do you feel like the Lakers?
It's just, you can't beat Luka.
You know, nothing tops that.
But on the East, I would say the Bucs for sure.
I like that Kyle Kuzma.
I like Kyle Kuzma.
I like Kyle Kuzma and Kevin Porter.
Let's move to this side of the couch over to Cemetery Larry.
Championship Charles, the dream killer,
man known by many names.
Shaw, which team improved the most at the trade deadline?
Cleveland.
Cleveland Cavaliers.
Got DeAndre Hunter. Yeah.
Oh yeah, that's a good one.
They actually went and got some shit they needed out of all of us.
So looking at, you know, I talk to my boy Marcus.
He from Cleveland.
We talk about what they need.
He follows them religiously.
We always talk about that three spot.
Two way player that can hit the shot, can defend, big body,
complement both Garland and Mitchell with Mobley.
He's going to start right away.
You got Okor coming up.
Yeah, you got Okor coming off the bench.
Wade, you still got Struce.
You still got, you know, a lot of good hitters.
And looking at their roster, they play nine guys, 15, 16 minutes.
They almost got 11-man rotation.
So, you know, adding him, getting rid of two pieces,
I like Cleveland a lot, outside of my Knicks.
Because once Mitchell Robinson comes back, it's going to be dangerous.
Cat at the force.
I'm going to say that every year about Mitchell Robertson.
I know, right?
Hey, this time we're waiting.
This time.
We'll wait till the end.
We'll play you in the end.
Let's move over to Canyon Martin.
Canyon, what team improved the most at the trade deadline?
Utah Jazz.
The Utah Jazz have improved the most?
Uh-huh.
I'm around my dude, man.
Let's see. Number eight, KJ Martin.
Anywhere KJ go, I'm riding.
As you should.
By association, we are riding as well.
Last but not least.
Almost bought a Detroit Pitch.
I told you, Detroit basketball.
I'm infatuated.
Whew.
Glad I didn't have to say that out loud, right?
Yeah.
That's nasty.
Nothing wrong with the city of Detroit.
Very fine people.
See, everything's wrong with Detroit.
That's your guys' opinion.
I am a fan.
Shout out to Buffs.
Shout out to HaHa Davis.
The rest of the crew out there.
So let's move on to you, Gil.
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Before I say that, we on to you, Gil. HaHa Davis.
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I think Miami got better. Do you believe the Miami Heat?
Improved the most at the trade deadline. Why do you think that the Miami Heat improved the most at the trade deadline?
How can you be jumping like that? They got money now.
They got better because
they actually have a small
forward that's actually playing.
Jimmy Butler was suspended for the year,
so that's a guy they didn't have.
Right? He wasn't playing. He's averaging
about 13 points.
Wiggins going there is just an upgrade at this point
compared to what they had before.
And that he was suspended this whole time.
So they got actually better.
They were already sitting in what seed?
I believe in sixth.
Sixth. So they're sitting in that sixth seed.
This actually helps them secure a sixth seed or each jump to fifth.
So technically, he's in the sixth seed in the East.
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So we asked the chat,
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To no surprise, 67% said the Lakers.
Next up was the Bucs, or next up was other, excuse me, at 17%.
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This Saturday.
Hurry up.
You heard the lady.
What has Joker been doing lately?
Killing it.
Knowing what he's doing.
I was going to say, you don't hear shit.
Because he's in Denver, dog. We don't hear shit about Denver. Because he's in Denver, dog.
We don't hear nothing
about Denver.
So do you think
that you'll hear more
about Jokic
when he comes to the Lakers
to join Luka?
When he comes to the Lakers?
It'll be a bigger deal.
We'll hear more about him?
Okay, that makes sense.
That's why I asked that.
But Joker was
Player of the Month
in the Western Conference
for the month of January.
It is Black History Month now,
so he won Joker won Player of the Month. He Western Conference for the month of January. It is Black History Month now, so he won Joker one player of the month.
He didn't win that game against New York?
Who won it on the East?
Y'all.
Should have been.
Oh, yeah.
Uh-uh.
So, Steve, this Ben Simmons news accurate?
I didn't see him tweet it, but I'm going to get to it.
No, he didn't tweet it.
He said it on television.
Okay, so Ben Simmons?
According to Shams, Ben Simmons, Simmons the Nets working on a buyout
But finish the rest of it, but he can't come to the Lakers with no bread
I mean, we don't have enough brain on our bread. He already have bread. That's the point of the buyout
You got your bread now come get a chip. You got your bread.
All this CBA shenanigans.
We have.
And what has he?
That's what you.
So you're talking about Jimmy Weller.
We have to come off a certain amount of bread to be able to take on his salary.
We have to come off a certain amount of bread to be able to take on his salary just based on what he's making.
I can't explain it.
They can buy that thing.
What?
Buy him out and let him go. Hold on what said it again going to the sunset wait you
He gets bought out they owe his money, I don't understand it either do I'm just telling you I'm like a flicker
Nearly a house future movie star. I mean it's not an amnesty
Right amnesty means whoever picks you up, they owe that bread.
No, amnesty, the team had to just pay it off, but they could stay. No, no.
Amnesty is you get amnesty, and then you're in the holding period.
It does not exist.
You're in the holding period for 10 days, but if somebody picks you up, they take on a contract.
Yeah.
If you go to free agency, the team owes you the money.
Whatever you sign, you sign a million dollars, the team just owes you a million dollars.
Well, they don't do amnesties anymore, Adam Silver.
I know, but I'm just saying that's amnesty.
If you buy me out, you give me my money.
Wherever I go, I'm a free agent.
That doesn't work no more.
You can sign a minimum.
You can sign a minimum.
Call Adam Silver.
I'm your early host.
Yeah, that's how you double up.
But according to Shams, this is not good news for the arena,
but according to Shams, he said the Clippers and Cavs,
current favorites to land.
Yeah, that's cool.
We don't want that yet.
You don't want?
Cavs fans, what you doing?
I'm going to take them up on the hook and play.
Cavs get them.
It's a lot.
Shug, you want Ben Simmons to come off the line
and be the Cavs?
Shug flexing right now.
You can rebound and pass to open man.
It's D for Lakers.
Just pick him.
Garland and Mitchell just running around.
Let us go. What was he doing that over there? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Yeah pick him. Garland and Mitchell just running around. Let us go.
What was he doing at over there?
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Yeah, that's what he was doing, a little bit of it.
Let's pick, Pop.
But he might retire because he's talking about his back.
Yeah, he got to retire.
He need a backyotomy?
Just float into the sunset.
You know how the movies when the horses just ride off
on a horse into the sunset?
You buy me out for the right price.
Let that nigga just ride.
Yee-haw. I be looking like Brandon around this bitch.
Yee-haw!
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Y'all want to talk SGA for a little bit?
We've been doing a lot of trade deadline.
Ooh.
How you feel about it?
He's cocky.
Fuck that MVP.
Y'all want to talk SGA?
He's cocky.
What do you do?
You got traded?
Another 50 piece.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I know you like buckets.
He is not fucking with y'all this year.
Let's get into SGA very quickly.
So while everyone else was worried about the trade deadline,
SGA was balling out last night as he continues his quest to win his first MVP.
Let's take a look at some of the highlights.
So for the third time this season, SGA dropped 50 points.
No player in the league has done it more than once so far.
This is his third 50-point player in the league has done it more than once so far. This is his
third 50-point game in the
last seven games.
So only eight other players have
scored 53 times over seven games
in NBA history. Those players are
Kareem, Elgin Baylor, Kobe, Wilt,
Luka, Current Laker,
in case you didn't know, James Harden,
Michael Jordan, and Dame. Impressive
company to say the least.
So SGA had 46 after the third quarter, and the Thunder were up 25.
But OKC head coach Mark Dagnall decided to give them a few minutes
to reach the milestone in the fourth quarter, which he did.
Over the last 10 games, SGA is averaging 39 points per game,
shooting 59% from the field.
Let's take a look at some of these highlights.
Oh, look at the Suns.
Remember when we talked about them potentially being a threat in the Western Conference
Katie said the nano to the trail the SGA said, huh?
Take these buckets, please
You see it go
Man racing you You see it, Gil. Oh, man.
Grayson, you just...
Faith went apart right there.
What are you doing?
Faith went apart.
Shaw, does it bring any joy to your heart to see a Duke player getting cooked by SGA?
No concern either way.
But any issue with SGA coming back in the game to get his 50 last night?
They were up 25, like I mentioned. Whoa, whoa, whoa. He came back in the game to get his 50 last night? They were up 25, like I mentioned.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
He came back in the game?
So you always talk about...
Yep.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
I didn't know nothing about...
They started the fourth quarter.
They was up 25?
They were up 25.
Gotta do it.
And he started the fourth quarter.
That's like the third time he's done that.
A few more minutes in the fourth quarter to reach that milestone.
That's the third time this year he's done that.
You gotta do it.
He's Canadian.
Well, you don't like it?
Not my problem. If y'all don't care about wins, it's on his stats. You gotta do it. He's Canadian. Well, you don't like it? Not my problem.
If y'all don't care about wins,
there's only stats.
You got to do it.
If you're going to chase it, chase it.
If you don't want to...
You're going to make it be known.
That's what you're trying to go get.
Go get it.
But if you don't win it,
you're going to get it
and you don't win the championship?
Nah.
Nah, now he's pushing this stuff.
Come on, man.
God damn.
Because it's a goal you set.
You're not setting a goal
of winning the championship.
You're setting a goal
of winning the MVP.
We just had the conversation
His goal is to win a championship if you're checking in the game of 25 to go get 50
Oh not checking his self being the coach doing it coach. We are in agreement
Bashad as we know 25-point lead in the NBA nowadays.
Man, I don't get fucked by that 25-point, man.
Listen, give me my 50-pitch.
I got 50.
I'm going to get 50.
You're going to put me back in the game.
If you don't care about me being the number one and averaging 30, I got to do shit like that.
If it don't matter who's number one and who's averaging 20, all that matters is who wins the championship at the end of the league.
At the end of the fucking season, who's holding up the championship trophy?
And if the best player is doing that, we know at the end of the year, best player, man.
Is that more important for SGA's legacy winning that championship?
I think so.
I think so.
I think so.
If he don't win the MVP and he go win the championship, we would all know he should have got the MVP.
He should have got the MVP. Now, if he get the MVP and he don't go to the top and win the chip, we like all know he should have got the MVP. He should have got the MVP.
Now, if he get the MVP and he don't go to the top
and win the championship, we're like, hey, man.
He came up short.
Should have would. Just like MB.
Should have would. Came up short, bro.
We would probably just say, damn, he almost beat Luka and LeBron.
Hey, man, I'm up for that. He almost beat Luka and LeBron
in the playoffs. He had 50 again.
He had 50 again. Again.
He's having one of those James Harden.
What's so funny is he's having like a James Harden year.
He is cooking.
Not as flashy as it was, but he's only had this season since October,
he hasn't scored under 20 points.
That James Harden year was crazy.
But that's, this is, without all the assists like James Harden had
and all the six these in that should just look different rolling
His consistency is crazy. It's crazy right now has it scored under 22 points. This is every game
Yet 18 the fifth game of the season and the motherfuckers been on top of May April and
And the sad part is we're gonna sit right motherfucker in Denver is doing some shit, too.
Sad part is, is if you don't get it.
It ain't a runaway.
If you don't get it, boy, you look bad.
How?
118.121.
My bad.
I gave it to somebody in 15.
Because you chasing it.
But what I'm saying is.
You don't get it this year.
It's like you chasing it for nothing.
Both of them chasing it, though.
You chasing it for nothing.
Then Jokic.
Jokic ain't chasing shit.
He don't chasing it.
So he ain't chasing triple-double. Why he ain't? He won MVP last nothing. Then Jokic? Jokic ain't chasing shit. He don't care. So he ain't chasing trouble.
He won MVP last year.
Did he look bad?
I wouldn't admit it.
No one cares.
He's doing what his team need him to do.
And he doing what his team need him doing.
You can't put a narrative on this.
He the one person out there against KB, what we call it.
Your team didn't need you to check back in the game being up 25.
He getting double teamed.
Your team did not need you to check back in to go get 50 points.
Somebody on Phoenix complained about getting double teamed.
You was getting double teamed the whole game. Come on, bro. Your team did not need you to check back in to go get 50 points. Somebody on the feed is complaining about getting double-teamed.
You was getting double-teamed the whole game.
Come on, bro.
You was getting double-teamed the whole game.
Your team up 30. You still in the game.
Everybody else on the bench.
Shay versus KD, Book, and Bill.
Nah, bro. Don't cheat the game, bro.
Shay versus KD, Book, and Bill.
If you good enough to get MVP, go get it, bro.
Shay versus KD, Book, and Bill.
Go chasing it.
It's crazy.
We'll give it to you if you deserve it.
It's crazy. We'll give it to you if you deserve it. It's crazy. We'll give it to you if you deserve it. It's crazy as you said it, right?
No one's going to remember you if you win an MVP,
but not the final or the championship.
When Joker won his three, he didn't win MVP.
Right.
Win his three what?
MVPs.
He didn't win a championship on those three MVPs.
We didn't give a fuck until he won the championship.
Yeah, no, no.
We all cared.
We didn't give a fuck about nothing he did until he won. We were like, finally, he's the MVP and the championship. Yeah, no, no. We all cared. We didn't give a fuck about nothing he did
until he won.
We were like, finally.
He's the MVP
and the champion.
Labeled.
Golded.
Thank you.
Now you got to put
my jersey in the rafters.
So, so Shea can win
the MVP this year
and win it.
And then next year
he can win the championship
or whenever he wins
the championship.
And when the conversation
changes, 100%. Same with Giannis. So, I think think yannis won mvp defensive player of the year and he won a
championship we can't have him but we can say about janice now nothing i think i think i think
he gotta win he gotta go through the process which one's first what which one comes mvp okay
so i'll get that and then and then we can worry about the next one. I'm not going to worry about that one.
But you're chasing it.
Let me worry about this one first.
They ain't that.
No, they're not chasing it.
Stop.
You can't just say this person's chasing it.
Y'all just chasing it.
He's motherfucking like, wait a minute.
How can I not say it?
When they play the game a different way.
When you play the game a different way and you're not chasing it, you're just playing hard.
You're just playing hard. You're just playing hard.
Well, hey, Nick.
You think Derrick Rose will chase you?
No, no, no, but hear me out.
A motherfucker.
I get it when you get to move back in.
No, I'm saying Nikola, um, they, like, some of the games where he had a triple-double before the third quarter, like, were huge.
If he go back in the game.
It goes crazy. You know what I'm saying? Mike Malone wouldn't want to embarrass the game like that. It looks like he go back in the game... It goes crazy.
You know what I'm saying?
Mike Malone wouldn't want to embarrass the game like that.
It looks like you're in the game, bro.
We know, but look...
It looks like you're chasing it.
If I'm balling and I'm blowing my teams out by 20
and y'all still don't respect that,
I got to do the shit y'all want me to do
to get the MVP.
So why you mad?
Why do you want that so bad?
Because, motherfucker, everybody
want it. Come on. I want it more than winning.
You want it more than winning.
I'm already winning. You ain't won.
You said winning.
You want it more than winning at all.
You want that award more than this championship.
Because I have it. It's in my brass.
Where's your fucking priorities?
Your priorities is not winning
the chip. I'm winning and y'all disrespecting me.
So I'm giving you what you want.
So when you win, we'll respect you.
Either win the motherfucking award or win the motherfucking chips.
If I'm winning, you still disrespecting me.
I got to give you what you want.
But don't chase it.
And even if I'm giving you what you want, you still don't respect that.
Don't chase it, though.
Now, what do we do?
Earn it.
Everyone.
He earned it.
No.
I am earning it.
No.
You're chasing it.
You're chasing it.
But.
How is he not earning it?
He's chasing it. No, he's not. He's not. He obviously is chasing it. He is. You're chasing it. But. How is he not earning it? He's chasing it.
No, he's not.
He's not.
He obviously is chasing it.
What did he have last year?
Bro.
Same.
Yeah, bro.
But my thing, like.
So I earned it.
How many 50-point games did he have last year?
None.
He needs more.
Check this out.
Check this out.
Check this out.
Y'all just told me.
Hold on.
Oh, the conversation is, I need to do this to win championships.
Hold on.
All of a sudden, he has 50-point games?
I hope you don't have.
Listen, so just hear me out, right?
So what he said, no.
Same situation, right?
He put him back in that motherfucker and he get hurt.
He look stupid.
Kill him.
So that's my thing.
So you can't, like.
Hey, we've been with you.
You can't, yeah.
To his point, you can't.
All right, listen.
You cheating the game.
You cheating the game.
So then whose fault is it when it happens?
Is it the coach's fault?
Who cares?
Exactly.
It happens.
Who cares?
Chasing that.
Now the fucking organization is done because this nigga has to leave.
That's all it is.
It's just cool.
Jason Tatum, right?
They blow everybody out, right?
They've been whooping everybody's ass.
Winning.
Why can't he win the MVP?
You know why?
He played lethargic.
No, because he sits on the bench
the majority of the game
and don't have the numbers to match.
So somebody like him is like,
I'd rather a game be close
so I can stack my bread.
Why?
Because me getting this early bread
and sitting on the bench is penalizing me.
Because you're thinking about yourself.
You're sitting on the bench thinking
about yourself, numbers, and accolades
instead of just being happy that
we about to win a championship.
What do you respect?
What is you respecting? I'm doing it anyway.
You don't respect winning. You respect
stats, right? I respect.
So I'm giving you what you want. We're using it. You don't respect winning. Listen, you won a championship. So y'all shit on winning. You won't respect winning you respect stats, right respect. Don't give you what you want using you don't win
Listen you won a championship
Winning one you should I want it you should you won you won, but you should know we're sitting on the warning of reward
Potato should be acting like
The man that who sacrificed for winning. Yeah.
Who sacrificed? Who sacrificed for winning?
His team.
Who?
Sitting down, doing all his shit.
Who are you talking about?
Jason Tatum.
What team?
What team does he play for?
You say he sacrificed.
Yeah, because he's got to sit.
He can't go back in when he's up.
When he got 25.
He's not the best player.
When he got 25 and he's sitting in the beginning of the fourth quarter,
he can't go back in the game to get his 35.
With his coach sitting there and like get in the game.
He can't get back in the game.
Just like SJ coach.
Hold on.
Go get back in the game.
Y'all look down on that.
If he has 25, but they're up 30, and he can't go back in the game.
You're looking down on that, right?
That's crazy.
Why would you go back in the game as a player who is just a hooper?
Let the other guys hoop. Who? What are you talking about? We're not talking about going back in the game as a player who is just a hooper? You're up.
Let the other guys hoop.
Hoop.
What are you talking about?
We're not talking about going back in the game to hoop and get more numbers.
That shit is lame as fuck.
It's lame as fuck.
It hurts the game.
Yes.
My nigga let him play.
You know how hard he's been practicing?
And practice to fucking play?
So your lame ass can get back in the game and get 50 and get your numbers for your legacy?
Agree with me.
That's lame ass hooping, man.
Digging that hole, right?
It's lame as fuck to go back and...
Because he's never done it before, right?
He's never done it before in the last two years
when he should have been MVP,
and because of that, you...
Because he's thinking about MVP.
No, no, he's thinking about MVP.
MVP is on his mind.
He's thinking about wins.
He's selfish-ass, narcissistic-ass motherfucker who's thinking about me.
Me, me, me, me, me.
No team, no win, no champion.
Move, nigga.
We don't want to talk about you.
We don't want to talk about your stats.
We want to talk about the wins, bro.
Win.
And hold on.
And Jason Tatum has had what on his mind?
A chip, right?
No.
Yes.
He has not thought about motherfucking.
So why are we frowning?
Hold on.
Why are we frowning?
You're frowning.
What are we frowning for?
Because if we won, we should smile.
I let you talk, right?
I let you talk, right?
Cool.
Now, the one guy who put his team over his personal stats.
When?
Last year, the year before that.
He going.
He going.
I let you eat.
Let him cook.
I let you eat.
Let him cook.
The one man in the NBA who said, fuck the numbers.
Tell him. I want to fuck the numbers. Tell him.
I want to win a chip.
Tell him.
Did he say that?
Yes!
Or did his play just not reflect that?
Both of them.
Did his play not reflect that?
And you can keep interrupting.
Don't let him interrupt you.
Go!
Fire that ass!
Go!
But you two motherfuckers, because of it,
has them what on the team?
What, two?
Y'all made him a backseat player because he don't want to get his numbers because he want his team to play.
You made him.
Hold on.
No, no, no. You think numbers put you number one.
It's your fucking mambo mentality that puts you number one.
There ain't no fucking numbers.
He needs to know.
I let you eat.
He needs to know. He needs to know. I let you eat. He needs to know.
He needs to know.
I let you eat.
He needs to know.
Ain't nothing left to eat, nigga.
I ate everything off the plate.
Ain't nothing left.
Like always, you got to go to the fucking Walgreens
and get some shit from the Walgreens, nigga.
Ain't nothing left to eat.
Nothing wrong with Walgreens.
The man who sacrificed to win a championship, put his ego aside, put his individual stats aside.
We watched this team dominate all year long.
All year.
Lift stone, man.
And you two.
One and two.
One and two. That's one and that's two.
Uh-huh.
Put his teammate in front of him.
On top of him.
Because of what?
He said teammate.
You put his teammate on top of him
because his shit didn't look like a star.
It didn't look powerful.
Because how can it if he don't get to go back in the game of him because his shit didn't look like a star and it looked powerful because
How can it if he don't get to go back in the game and do the SGA stuff?
Because they're winning by 20 and 15 and he's sitting his numbers look dialed down and you two
Use that against him. I'm still in school. Hey, hey
SGA you keep getting your mother
Because do you know basketball right here? You know basketball your motherfucking 50 Because these two motherfuckers right here
Will put your ass as a second on that
Do you know basketball?
Did Jalen Brown say that he
Sacrificed his game for Tatum?
I believe he said it
I thought the offense was meant for Tatum to sign
So if you can't get it when you get it, that's on you
Tatum?
Jalen Brown, he's the one sacrificed throughout 82 games
I'm guarding the best player
I'm watching Boston.
The whole shit is for you. You're the one
shooting jump shots. I'm sacrificing that shit. You're the one
shooting jump shots, soft motherfucker.
Be a dog.
Be a dog like your teammate. It ain't even your team
anymore. See, this is the play you're talking about.
They want to give him a pass
because he got his number. He got better
numbers than me. Give him a pass. Man, when
you need me, you call me i'm
gonna be there see and that's y'all you know what you know the name of that song michael jackson and
them what jaylen brown say hey man you know hey what jaylen brown say hey man you know man you
know we gotta let old that little boy have his chance you know that's the problem y'all y'all
are mad at sga for going back and stacking his numbers up but But when Jason don't stack his numbers up,
you make his teammate the number two option.
So which one is it?
Pick one.
We make his teammate.
Pick one.
We don't make shit.
We don't make shit.
It's obvious if you watch basketball,
who the dogs are, who took it over the top.
We know the kid can play.
We know he's very good.
He's great.
He can lead us up to a certain point.
It's just like any real captain, right?
You got a captain, then you got the general.
Right?
The captain is the guy getting the credit all the way up until the point where we got
to go, hey, general, what we doing now?
I got it from here.
You know what we waiting on?
We waiting on, he like AD.
We waiting on you for how to- You waiting on the-
Like AD.
You waiting on when his team is up 15 or 20, he go back in to get 10 more
points so he can get the 40, 40, 40, 40.
Is that what you're waiting for?
I got it.
The offense is meant for him.
But which one are you waiting for?
The offense is meant for him.
And the time he's doing it.
82 games.
He's doing it.
He delivers.
Just like Steph Curry, right?
Mm-hmm.
When he was doing what he was doing, but he never played in the fourth quarter.
Right?
He already had an MVP. He already had an MVP.
He already had an MVP.
He already accomplished everything already.
He already accomplished everything.
That's not the point.
What?
I've already done it.
You can't get your numbers if you're only playing three quarters, right?
I don't need to.
I've already done it.
I've done it back-to-back.
I've already done it.
So you're proving my point.
I've done it already.
You're proving my point.
It's taking you this fucking long to prove a point, bro.
You keep interrupting me.
Get to it, guys.
Shut the fuck up then.
It's taking forever.
Like I did you.
Shit.
It didn't take long for me.
That's a nice oral washout.
You spoke five straight minutes.
I know I didn't.
Boom, boom, boom.
I know 30 seconds you want to interrupt me.
Keep going.
Hey, brother Farrakhan, let him talk.
Keep going.
We're waiting.
So you said he already had it.
So him sitting in those fourth quarters didn't mean anything, right? When they got KD, that's what you're talking about, right? When he sitting in those four quarters and meaning thing right when they got Katie
That's what you talking about when he said in the fourth quarters. It didn't mean none already. Yeah, all right. I got both already
Yes, I got MVP AG
Scram Tatum no
SGA SGA
Don't have that yet. Right so he's back. That's what Tatum said. I want a championship
Did he say you want to sit me in the third, you want to sit me in the fourth? Cool.
Yeah. But y'all penalized him for that. Yeah. The world penalized him for that. You penalizing the
guy. Why are you interrupting me? Because you lying. No one penalized shit, bro. He didn't
deliver. I literally said he's not performing. He's not performing in this playoffs to win any kind of award
He needs to amp it up. He needs to play better
Literally he was playing good up until that point. I'm like, oh he needs to snap out of it, bro
He's not playing like he's so did he will come in here and say all right nigga you lying. That's not how it went
We're gonna play all the way. I was a Jaylen Brown playoff performance, bro.
Just the playoffs.
What game?
Did you watch any of the games?
You should be able to...
I think I'm the only one who got the series number right.
What was gonna happen there, sir?
You got the series right. Okay.
Who won the MVP?
Jaylen Brown.
Who won the conference? East?
Jaylen Brown. Okay. Did you get that right?len Brown. Who won the conference? Jaylen Brown.
Okay. Did you get that right? No.
No, you didn't, motherfucker.
Who let the team in every category?
I thought you got it right.
What did Jaylen Brown do?
What stood out?
Leadership.
This nigga said leadership.
He can't pull that up on his phone.
That ain't no fucking stat.
You got to be watching that shit in real time.
I thought Drew Lottie had leadership.
Unless he going to pull up leadership as a definition and read it,
which I doubt he's going to do that.
He's not going to pull that definition of leadership.
I just feel like Tatum should have the same type of mindset that SGA has
after everything he went through last year.
Just.
I'm going.
Hey, Joe. Who did I talk to?
Do you have a phone in your hand?
No, I don't just... Do you have a phone
in your hand? It's Joe. I'd be damned
if we didn't talk about all this shit before. I don't just know leadership because you can't
prove it. Who is this?
You want me to say his name? Yeah.
Wait. The person's name in there?
Right there. Sam Cassell?
What team does he coach
for? Oh, I thought... Ohassell. What team does he coach for? Oh, I thought...
Oh, shit.
What team?
Uh, when you're losing.
When you're losing an argument, dig yourself a bigger grave.
What team?
He's assistant basketball coach for the Boston Celtics.
Oh, no, no, let's leave it alone.
Let's leave it alone.
You're gonna have a nigger's fight.
Well, I guess Sam can't see like us either.
Nope.
And he right there. And he right there. And he right there every night. I had a niggas fight. I guess Sam can't Sam can't see like us either. Nope
Get them dicker glasses
Keep doing your thing man. Oh for sure. That's That's the same mindset Tatum should have. If you sub in on that, you should have it.
No, no, I didn't say I agree with what he said.
I'm just saying, not... Oh.
I didn't say I agree with what he said.
I'm just saying, as far as...
That's some lame-ass shit, though.
Nah. Nah.
Get your numbers, young fella, but don't go back in the game.
Go back in the game.
Don't go back in the game.
Go back in the game.
Because, listen, that's what... I'm gonna tell you right now.
That's what started the fight. When we was in the Garden, with the Nug Go back in the game. Because listen, that's what I'm going to tell you right now. That's what started the fight.
We was in the garden, the nuggets and the Knicks.
No, no, I'm not saying, but that's what started the fight.
We was up big.
Hey man, don't go to the basket.
Relax.
Went to go get a motherfucking layup, took him out, now you got a motherfucking fight.
So just let me tell you.
But that's a personal problem.
Like I already have 48. Like I already have 48 Like I already have for like what if I don't took offense to it what I'm saying is you didn't you should be offended
I got 48 and 3
46 you got 46 to put you back in the game, but I got we didn't stop you in the 46
I get you but I got 46
Right. I got 46 to the third my career highest fit you and I did right shit
We I was I mean
50 on this
Fucking you a I was cooking y'all. Yeah, thank you, but he was we didn't want the niggas get 50 y'all got a nice
Yeah
Let's get 50 there. I don't have no choice
I'm a little what I'm saying if you have if I got if I already got 46 points and and
You're not putting them back. There's eight minutes nine minutes left in my career highest 50. I
Don't this is my this is my history
But if you're mad about you, that's not though, but you shouldn't have got me to 46. I'm so close. I'm going to
finish. If it's a career high at
stake,
I agree with you.
If someone is about to break
their career high and you put
first couple minutes, I agree
with you. But this is not that case.
Technically. No, it's not. This was a career
high on Wednesday.
This is a fucking guy.
I'm both to Rashad. Oh, no. not. This was the career high on Wednesday. Yeah. This is a fucking guy. I pulled a Rashad.
Oh, no, I never scored 50 on a Wednesday.
All right, ladies.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, if it's a situation like that, it's better, like, all right, cool.
You about to break the record in the garden.
All right, cool.
You about to.
When did he get back in?
I think he started at the third.
I mean, he started at the fourth.
He had it going at 46.
Take you the fuck out.
Y'all up 25.
He put Tim back in so you can get four more points.
Okay, yeah.
There's nothing wrong with that.
That's just fucking terrible.
If you're going to be...
That's fucking terrible.
No, no, if you're going to be terrible,
that's the easiest way to blend it in
versus him sitting for the three minutes
I did not many marks of the mother putting back in
So we asked the chat that you have come back in the game to get 50 68 percent said yes
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They don't know don't know what winning takes
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When you win one argument against McKay's boy I'm going to back in, coach! Damn.
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It's going to be a good weekend.
It will be a good weekend.
That win is up for debate.
We're challenging that.
We're going to challenge that.
We're challenging.
Go to the tape.
Go to the tape.
No.
We'll find out in two hours.
Yeah, no, we're going to ask that same fucking question
after they replay it back.
We'll hit the chat in two hours.
So I guess somebody was, something was about to happen, number eight in Utah, so 99 it
is.
Player.
Yep.
99 player.
Let's get it.
NBA Live 95.
NBA Live 95.
My player.
Player 99.
Michael Jordan.
Somebody getting it or somebody retired.
I don't know what the-
Getting 44.
22. 44. Five. He going 99. Five plus three. 99. Somebody getting it or somebody retired on the way to 44 44
5 plus 3
Let me get that
Mean NBA has dominated this week with the trade deadline. There is a football game this weekend that some people care about let's go so
Though look we try to make everyone forget Eagles. The Super Bowl is this Sunday.
There's a championship football game happening.
Bet it.
Bet.
Nigga, you ain't saying nothing.
Whatever you want to do.
So Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs trying to become the first team ever to win three straight Super Bowls.
For the Eagles, Saquon Barkley is trying to solidify himself as the greatest free agent signing of all time.
Left the Giants, went to the Eagles, in the big game right now.
I need to go around the couch quickly.
What's your prediction for the big game?
I need the winner, the score, and I need the Super Bowl MVP.
Oh, man. Damn, who the hell are you bookie with?
Underdog fantasy.
Underdog fantasy.
Who, who, who, who?
Thanks, KJ.
You sound like Identity.
We have aligned ourselves.
We've got KJ closer to L.A., not quite where we need him yet.
Two-hour flight on Delta
He liked Park City so you can use the Delta lounge if you have to use the facilities. There's definitely Delta
Listen, I like bubblegum friendly. They got the hand cream to write what you dug
Got treated like royalty. Can you plug this with the director?
I never got the director to play before about traveling with Kenya. They took us right to the play
We was on with everybody.
Just sweep that one, though.
No, it was different.
They just came and got us.
I'm talking about the Utah, though, KU.
We was all on the tarmac, hitting left and right.
Did you just sweep all Utah?
No.
So, prediction for the big game.
We will start with Mr. B.
Work our way around.
Mr. B., what's your prediction for the big game?
I need the winner, the score, for my MVP.
I don't even...
I'm going to be a hater and not go for my team.
Kendrick Lamar, okay. And what will the score be? I'm going to... I'm gonna hate it and not go for my team.
Kendrick Lamar, okay.
And what will the score be?
I'm gonna go with the Eagles.
Okay.
Wow.
Man, you gotta catch a fade on that.
Score and MVP?
I have no idea.
I'm not good with that.
I mean, what's the...
What's the...
Final MVP?
What's the score right now?
Like...
0-0.
28-21?
I don't know.
Okay.
28-21?
Who will win Super Bowl MVP? If the Eagles win, who's getting Super Bowl MVP?
It's the running back.
Saquon Barkley.
Okay.
Let's move on to NBA Champion of the World, Swaggy Pete Nick Young.
Using your championship experience for this championship game.
Three-peat.
Okay, you got the Chiefs.
Three-peat.
What's the score of the game?
Oh, man, it'll probably be, see, I'm going to go first half.
It's going to be 17-7, first half.
Okay.
End of the game, it's going to be 28-17, easy win.
Pat Mahomes, finals MVP, three-peat.
Kelsey getting married.
Proposing. After that.
Yeah.
Okay.
So they're going to be down?
What?
Chiefs going to be down?
Chiefs going to keep going.
They're going to.
Two-point conversion in the field.
So they scored 11 points the rest of the way?
Yeah.
This fucking guy.
28-17 in the game.
Two-point conversion in the field.
Just to rub it in, let's move over to this side.
Cemetery Larry, Championship Charles, Dreamkiller.
Representing the trenches.
Eagles for sure.
Eagles.
Score.
17-13, Eagles.
Oh no, they ain ain't no close game.
Um...
That's a weak-ass game.
MVP, Jalen Hurts.
I feel for Jalen.
If it's that score, it's gonna be Saquon.
It's gonna be on the other side.
They gonna kill the run game.
If it's that score...
All right, let's move on to Kenya. Kenya, what do you got?
Chiefs. First- what do you got?
Chiefs. First time man you've... Yeah, I'm saying Travis Kelsey, man. And I'm not going with that team.
You know, I'm not. I just by nature, just taboo, just NFC East, living long time.
We automatically win just because of that. Can't go with it. Just because you said it. Can't go with it.
Win.
Win.
I forgot you were counting.
No, Pat Mahomes is the quarterback, so he's not Romo or Prescott or none of them other
motherfuckers in between.
So, score, close game.
Chiefs win a close game.
I'm going to go 31-28.
They'll go. Patrick Mahomes, MVP. Let's move on. Chiefs win a closed game, I'm gonna go 31-28. Mm.
They'll go.
Patrick Mahomes.
Mm.
MVP.
Let's move on.
Yeah, they closed game shit, man.
Let's move on to our show's namesake, Mr. Gilbert Arenas.
I'm gonna go Chiefs.
Low out.
Low out.
Low out.
Score gonna be Kobe Michael Jordan. 24 out. Low out. Score going to be Kobe Michael Jordan.
24 to 23.
I don't know how to get to that, but 24 to 23.
That's good.
That's very possible.
Very possible.
That is possible.
That's really good.
They going to be up two.
I was thinking of that.
Eagles going to be up two.
Field goal.
Field goal to win it.
I was thinking.
I was going to say seven to six.
MVP.
MVP? I was going to say seven to six.
MVP?
I was going to say seven to six.
Damn.
The kicker.
Defense again.
Whoever kicked that motherfucker to win it, Harrison Buggins.
That's what I said, the kick.
Harrison Buggins.
I know that kid had it.
I'll go with Patrick Mahomes.
You say you hit the kicker to win MVP?
The kicker, you went in.
You win the game.
Harrison Buggins to go out there and hit field goal. And hit all the points. He hit the points. Has with MVP? You win the game with MVP. Hit all the field goals.
Hit all the points.
He hit the points.
Has anybody ever did that?
No.
No.
If he hit four field goals.
That'd be sick.
To win the game.
No, no, no.
If he kicked all eight.
All eight of them.
If he kicked all eight field goals to get all the points they have on the board.
He kicks all of them.
And they win.
And they win.
But he got it.
He's definitely getting MVP.
He's got to get it.
No doubts about it.
So, ladies and gentlemen, those are our big game predictions.
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And before we hit mostly fans, we asked the chat,
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52% said the Chiefs.
48% said the Eagles.
Jeez.
All right, so we have one mostly fans question before we call it a week here in the arena.
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85,000 people on the chat
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during Black History Month. But our question tonight
is from underdog user DaddyMC.
Who are your new favorites
to make the finals? Who are your new favorites
to make the NBA finals? Trade deadline has passed.
Seen all the moving and shaking going on around the league. Who are your new favorites to make the finals. Who are your new favorites to make the NBA finals? Trade deadline has passed. Seen all the moving and shaking
going on around the league.
Who are your new favorites
to make the finals?
Let me tell you a real start with you.
I'm still staying with my Knicks,
and then I'm going to elevate the Mavericks.
So Mavs, Knicks,
in the 2025 NBA finals.
I believe you had Nuggets before.
You have now elevated the Mavs
over the Nuggets
based on the moves they have made.
Mm-hmm.
All right, Kenny, let's move to you.
New favorites to make the finals.
We have to update it with the trade deadline.
Well, it's not a trade.
It's an availability that's happening.
With Chet coming back, man,
Oklahoma City is going to be a problem.
Defensive or offensive, I think he stretched forward. that's happening. With Chet coming back, man, Oklahoma City is finna be a problem.
Defensive or offensive, I think he stretch forward, he block shots, play defense.
But making the finals, errr.
Ah, fuck it.
Go say it, go say it.
I won't. Like a genie, baby, you know what I mean? You don't wanna say it. I won't.
Like a genie, baby. You know what I mean?
You don't want to say it. I don't.
You know what I mean? Like, if you don't say it, and then boom!
You got to hear it.
You're going to hear it.
And then you're going to be wearing a jersey. It's like, whoa!
In the East, I'm going...
Milwaukee Bucks.
I'm going to Bucks in the finals out of the East.
Are Cavs fans in the arena?
Oh, that's fine.
They're not looking at you directly.
That's fine.
They can be, but I think the Bucks, listen, man.
Yeah, the way that man planned out, good luck, man.
I think that ain't motivating.
I'm going to be out of here by 2.30.
But we'll see.
Wes.
Brother polite going to go forever.
What you got something to do?
Brother knowledge just keep going.
2-2-2. Two, two, two.
Two, two, two.
We'll go home with C.
Okay, C. Let's move over to Mr. B.
Representing Tough Crowd, Tough Crowd University.
Also, Black Cowboys, near and far.
He gonna get you after this.
I got the Bucs for sure.
Bucs.
And on the West...
I got the Bucks for sure. Bucks. And on the West... I got Dallas.
Mavs, Bucks.
I wore my Laker uniform.
NBA Finals.
Let's move over.
Bucks Warriors. My bad. Bucks Warriors. Go ahead.
Bucks Warriors. Okay. Bucks and six.
The Jimmy Butler...
Is Jimmy now the face of the franchise
I'm just fucking let's move on to swaggy face way. Give me your NBA finals predictions in light of the trade deadline
No, I know shit like that
So who's your Easter cover see I already know who you're going with the West, but you can just tell the audience
Boston oh
Okay, so we're going Lakers Boston. They said that the
NBA viewership issues.
Adam Silver said,
I got something for that ass.
Through the roof.
We taking it back.
You ain't gonna say shit about these numbers now?
I saved the script already, baby.
Yo, you have read the script.
It's gonna be Lakers and Cavs.
That's what I'm talking about.
That's what I'm talking about.
Okay, but we're winning. Relax. Relax. That's what I'm talking about. OK, but relax.
Relax.
Relax.
Bro, bro, bro, you can't be that excited about a motherfucking
Cleveland Cavaliers team, my nigga.
Hey, y'all fucking around lose to 18.
Boy.
It's going to be.
Man, that motherfucker got up so.
He got up like he got some new money or something, man. And them motherfuckers get to eight. He was hot. It's gonna be man
Motherfuckers get to eight. He was hot boy. Hey, let it let Philly get to eight more. Joelle get healthy You mother get the a 23 wrong door
Bullshit don't y'all remember lumber LeBron's first championship, right?
Guess it unexperienced OKC mmm LeBron James
Bronny James going back to Cleveland back and forth
Luka gets his first championship the easiest team to beat will be who caps
you're not gonna play you don't wanna play against Giannis and Dame you don't
want to play against Boston so somehow they going to do exactly how they did OKC.
Hold the whistle.
Know the travels.
Do all that shit.
Yeah, it's an easier game for them to win against Cleveland
than it would against Boston.
That means the Lakers are going to win on their home court.
Yeah, but that ain't happening.
Game four.
No, they're going to win in Cleveland.
We'll be wearing our Donovan Mitchell shirts. I don't think that's easy, they're gonna win in Cleveland. We'll be wearing our Donovan Mitchell shirt.
I don't think that's easy.
That ain't nice, bro.
We'll be wearing our Donovan Mitchell shirts.
I knew exactly what I was saying.
Well, I got the same script he got,
but I know what happens at the end.
Who the referee giving the...
Who is the NBA if them two are in the championship?
Who does the NBA want to win?
Who's gonna crown who at the end?
I don't give a fuck.
I don't give a fuck.
LeBron crowning Luka at the end
when they win the championship. Here, I give you the crown
and I retire.
The script is the script.
The script is the script.
Speaking of the script, that is the end
of our program today. Thank you again
to the chat, all the fans out there. This was
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I'm stoked.