Gil's Arena - The Golden State Warriors are in TROUBLE

Episode Date: March 16, 2023

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Look, with the honor called for greatness, the chosen a few. They carry the gift of genius. Who do what they do? Who possess and that's a bless with desire, it's true. Welcome back to Gills Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy World Thursday our last show of the week I'm back with the living legend Gilbert Arena What's happening?

We got the national champion Rashad McCants We got the hoods champion Brandon Jennings And freedom And you gotta introduce yourself I'm Josiah Johnson Okay I get the smoke Look at the smoke Look at the smoke All the smoke And you got to introduce yourself. I'm Josiah Johnson All the smoke

Hotbox hotbox it so we shot we see that you come through with these elaborate magic fits, but you rock in the UNC today Y'all know what it is. It's Martin madness. What's how they play today? They gonna win it all they're going to win it all we're going to get into that in a little bit but we got to go back to this Jai situation it seems like we talk about Jai every day but news broke Wednesday that the NBA suspended Jai for 8 games they were crediting him with game serves

so he'll be back Monday against the Mavs but shortly after that news broke ESPN dropped an interview with Jai and Jalen Rose discussing some of his recent off-court issues, but they had that man looking like R. Kelly in the interview. Facts. It was pretty wild. Speak.

So, what did you think about Ja doing an interview with Jalen Rose and ESPN? You watch it? I ain't watch it. You watch it? I watched a clip. Okay, what do you think? It was weird. It was kind of like scripted almost, you know?

And just Ja's whole demeanor was like, it wasn't mine. I don't know what happened, you know? I don't condone violence and I don't listen to NBA Youngboy and I just didn't believe it. Listen, it was dumb as fuck. Okay, it was just, it was just, it was stupid. I'm glad it was Jalen Rose, you know, because, you know, obviously he's going to, you know,

we're going to talk about this first. I'm not going to hit you with a haymaker, you know, so I'm glad it was Jalen Rose, but at the end of the day, who gives a fuck, all right? Who cares? It's over. He's back playing Monday, trying to clean up, you know, the image. Let your game do it.

Whatever you say personally on that show is not going to change no one's opinion. Like, whose gun is it? Who gives a shit? Who gives a shit? What gun? What gun? Did anybody find a gun? I ain't find no gun.

I told you it was a Taiwan Taiwanese filter. You know what it was? He could have said that and he's going to get the same response. You know what I mean? Some of those questions was it was really just who cares?

Who cares? What he did was not illegal. He got suspended Same shit. I got suspended for yeah, not no weapon Detrimental to something right? I was detrimental to the team. He was detrimental to the league I don't know what he did to the league But they gonna find a way to try to make it make sense in the public's eye and that's all the suspension was so do Did he jump in front of it? Is that what they tried to do?

Like, let's jump in front of this so this eight-game suspension kind of looks kind of like it's warranted? Is that what they... Because it looked like when you jump in front of it like that fast, I didn't expect it to happen that fast. It was like, y'all already did an interview? Yeah, I guess that news breaking about him

going to the counseling rehab in Florida, he had already been there before the news broke, so it wasn't like news broke and he was there. He had already done it, the whole counseling stuff in Florida. Then he went to New York to meet with Adam Silver. He did not go to Florida to do no rehab on nothing, okay? All right, listen, listen, listen. That's what the news says, guys. Tootsies, he was at Tootsies.

Yeah, I said, you take me to Florida. I'm going back. We're going to Tootsies. We're going to To, listen, listen. That's what the news says. Tootsies. He went to Tootsies. Yeah, you take me to Florida. I'm going back. I'm going back. We're going to Tootsies. We're going to Tootsies, man. You're telling me a 23-year-old learned that goddamn fast? No, listen. It was all PR.

It was very intensive. Listen, I get it. It's all PR. So he can't learn that fast. But at the end of the day, he learned that fast. But at the end of the day, you're trying to force something on someone. You're trying to force that. He went to some rehab to do some.

No, okay. His ass is in Memphis, working on his game, getting ready, staying in shape. All right? Let's just say the facts. And then, you know, the interview. Once they announce, you know, he going to be back Monday, that's it. All these dudes are going to be, fuck off. Fuck off. You know what I mean? I'm back. That's it Okay, Jill He was hitting it. He was hitting it. What? I got kids. He was hitting it.

Okay, Gil. So, in Ja's defense, ESPN ran the interview. I don't think ESPN would have been able to book that interview. I think it was more Jalen reaching out to Ja, being able to secure the interview. And I think the league probably has something to do with it in terms of the PR standpoint. Because like you said, Gil, they weren't just... A lot of people watching like, damn, Jalen Rose sounded like the feds there. Like, no, here's the question, Ja. Like, here's what you need to say.

I don't think it was like, oh, I'm just going to ask you these questions off the dome. Like, there was some preparation involved. I mean, PR move. We know. As soon as he said, I don't listen to young boy. My 10-year-old listen to young boy. My son listen. Yeah.

Yeah, I mean, I listen. I'm not going to say. Listen. All of us, when we play, and this is this goes out for you know Caucasian is that we're gonna call Caucasian America. Yeah. All right You guys have certain type of music you listen to before games, you know, some guys listen to rock, you know metal We listen to hip hop and it's the worst hip hop like when I played I listened to nothing but DMX and Tupac

Hit him up. Can't see me cuz you couldn't Ambitions of a ride up on the bright. We listen to that type of music to get us amped up So this generation they're gonna listen to NBA young boy Keith yeah, that's what you're going to listen to. When you hear it in the arena, they play it in the arena. So trying to make him sound like, oh, I don't live like no job. Listen, do you, man. Yeah, be you.

Yeah, be you. Yeah, be hard. We got him on video saying, there's a party in my city, yeah. Like 20 different times you listen to NBA Youngboy. Like, Future, come on. That's what you listen to? You trying to get hyped for a game. Like, nobody's sitting there listening to Cisco and shit.

Trying to get thumped. No, don't go. No, don't go. I got to guard Kyrie Irving. I'm not listening to those Cisco. You crazy? It's a NBA Youngboy, man. That's hilarious. So we'll keep it'all. This is me being a young boy, man. That's hilarious.

So we'll keep it moving. After Josh's suspension was announced, somebody tweeted, Gilbert Arenas is an amazing lawyer, turned 50 games into eight. What did you think when you saw that tweet? Facts. No cap. No cap. And I don't even want no check for that, man.

You don't got to. No, because I knew. You're going to retain her a little. No, because when they were throwing out that 50 games, I knew what they were going to try to do. And I had to make it public. Public. I didn't get suspended for no weapons. I got suspended for detrimental.

So the only time, the only thing you can use against him is detrimental. But you can't use it for mental anymore. Because the NBA done stopped that. I mean, the Players Association stopped that that's why they couldn't do Ben Simmons like that you know when you're trying to force him back and they suspended him oh yeah you got a cell phone in your pocket when there's a water bottle oh he's mentally not fit suspended him and then when they unsuspended him he pulled it on them you know so it's one of those moves so the

only thing they can do is just say all right time served because at the end of the day It was really you don't have nothing on them and you didn't communicate with John, though But I'm sure his PR team watches the show who doesn't watch Gil's arena But wait, I mean he does need to be under retainer. Yeah, Johnny Glock You get in some trouble, come on in and DM Gil. Let me get some advice. What should I do? I would do balls in the league like, yo Gil, how should I move?

No, no, no. I got to, hey, look. During the... You need to go to rookie transition. For real. Like the NBA, like with this Josh situation, I think the rookie transition needs players like us. Like players that's been through something.

Not just the, you know the players that had a great career and just want to be around and say the right things. It's like, no, bring some real guys in there, like a guy like you, Matt Barnes, Steven Jackson. Z-Bo. Like Z-Bo, like guys like that would be great for the rookies, because it's like, these are real situations you're going to have to deal with. So bringing in, I like Tim McCormick, but it's like- Shane Battier, like-

Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, listen, I'll get you, broick, but it's like, you know, it's like... Shane Battier? Like, you know what I'm saying? It's like, watch out. J.J. Riddick. Like, unless you're like someone that is in LeBron's situation, then you have someone that's, you know, knows how to move, you know, him, Kobe, but they're not going to come back like that. Nah. But I don't, like, even though, like,

a Shane Battier moved like a LeBron, I don't want to hear Shane Battier. Yeah, I'm not listening. Yeah, I'm not, as a rookie, I'm not, no. Like, bring me some, somebody I can feel that's really been through something. That was getting some ass. Like, we was moving around. We were moving around.

Shane wasn't moving around getting a moment like that. 19, 20. Yeah, we was out there getting it, you know what I'm saying? Like, they was in the room and shit. We was moving around, up on their ass like that. 1920s. We was out there getting it. They was in the room and shit. We was moving around. So I don't think the NBA will ever officially allow you to pull up. Not my decision to be there. So you should be like Akeem.

Like Akeem do his post-camp. You should do your own Gills rookie transition. But now you understand why I was acting like a clown at my rookie transition because it was all silly to me. All of it looked silly, right? And that's why I was doing what I was doing. It all looked silly. So we got to blame the league a little bit. Yeah.

I'm not setting you up. Here we go. Think about this. When I said I wanted to be a pimp, right? So you know how they ask you questions. So they ask the Collin twins, Stanford, Harvard-Westlake, right? Hey, you know, speaking, talking, yeah, this is what I want to do. And I made sure, hey, hey, ask me that question.

So I already put the word down the pipeline. You know, so they, hey, ask him, ask him. That's how it got to the silly nigga in the back. Right, that's how it got. See, no one realizes, wait, wait, out of, hey, ask him, ask him. That's how it got to the silly nigga in the back. Right, that's how it got. See, no one realizes, wait, wait, out of all the people in here, you get him? And that's what it was. So that's when Collins came around. I want to be a pimp.

Pimp. And then dude got, oh, he got heated. Right? He got heated. So you want to, you know, do the, matter of fact, you know, I want to be international. So I doubled down on him. Right? He got heated. So you want to, you know, do the... Matter of fact, you know, I want to be international, so I doubled down on him. Right? And after that, you can rent all you want. I already won.

I already won. There's nothing you can do at this point anymore. I done already made this whole thing look silly. Do y'all remember any good advice that y'all got from that rookie symposium? I definitely do. Dante Jones came and spoke. Dante and Q Rich spoke at ours. Oh, y'all had young ones? Yeah. Dante Jones came and spoke. Dante and Q Rich spoke at ours. Oh, y'all had young ones?

Yeah, Dante Jones and Q. So Dante gave us some advice as far as like playing. Like you could kill in practice. I think he was in Memphis at the time. He said, you can kill all day. You ain't never gonna play if that man making 15 mil a year. But then there's Q talking about the chicks. Like, hey man, be careful. Strap up, there's a chick named Mona in Toronto. She got a whole slew of them. She gonna send her.

Mona! I heard you. You remember Mona? I heard about her. You remember Mona? Yeah, I know Mona. Yeah, I remember. Chris Bosh used to warn us, like, hey man, y'all come up here, you get something, like,

protect your jewelry, put it in a little safe because you're going to get drunk and they're going to go in that little safe. Still doing their thing. Lifetime Achievement Award. I was in the little circles, you know what I'm saying? I knew where to go and what to do. Allegedly.

My Toronto experience got cut short my rookie season. I can't say who the player was, but he was waiting for the schedule to come out because he had a bad experience at a strip club in Toronto. Yeah, he got special attention by a man that he thought it was a woman. Oh, my God. Right? You got to check the Adams app, fool.

You got to check the Adam He was talking about was he can't wait to get to Toronto somebody was up with Toronto and then when the story came out I was like, oh, okay. I don't want to be in Toronto. Yeah, I was in it I was like, so you don't go back. There's like. He going back for seconds. He still up there. He going to move to Toronto. He up there now. He going back for seconds. So you're talking about life on the road. That brings you back to our next point with this Grizzlies team. According to The Athletic, the Grizzlies have decided to leave road cities like Miami, where they had a game recently, immediately after the game instead of staying overnight.

See. It's becoming corny now. It's corny. It's just becoming corny. The NBA experience is all about staying after That's the whole point like if you're not hooping like it's just like Gil to star I'm coming off the bench. I don't really get my 20 minutes. I'm looking forward To after the game cuz I've been scouting in the stands. I'm like, okay Yeah, go get her, get her.

Yeah, we gonna party after this. But then if we leaving immediately, it's like, just your whole, the camaraderie of the NBA is about enjoying after the fact that you get the hoop, you get to enjoy the city, you go to the restaurants, you know what I'm saying, meet the fans. That's a part of it, but when you, when you start to- Especially when you win too.

Yeah, when you winning. Say, you gonna win? Say, let's go in they city, let's, you know... Especially when you win, too. Yeah, when you're winning. You're going to win. Let's go to the next city. Let's drink. Get their girls everything, and then we out. Yeah. Hold on. See, this is why I say common sense ain't that common.

So if we play a game, and we're not going to stay, and we're going to fly to the next city, what do you think we're going to do when we land? Don't stall me. What do you think we're going to do when we land? Don't stall me. What do you think we're going to do when we land? Straight to the club. Don't stall me. If we get there late, parking lot pimp. Quick turnaround.

You know what I mean? It's the same thing. We just cutting out the dinner portion. You know, after the game, I just can't go to dinner. We go to the club around 1, 2 o'clock. What time you think you're getting in the next city? 1, 2 o'clock, those players put their bags up, V-line straight to the club around 1, 2 o'clock. What time do you think you're getting in the next city? 1, 2 o'clock. Those players put their bags up, V-line straight to whatever club or strip club.

It's the same thing, but just in the city you're going to. So if they would have played Denver and went to L.A., they would have been at a club in L.A. 100%. But what if they got to go to Oklahoma City or Salt Lake City? They got a club, right? Straight to the room. You're going to the club in Salt Lake. They went to Denver. It's a difference.

I already know. Oklahoma City, club, right? Straight to the room. You're going to the club in Salt Lake. They went to Denver. It's a difference. I already know. Oklahoma City, Denver, Memphis, Minnesota. Listen, if the boys want to be out, the boys are going to go out. There's nothing you can do about it. So what's the best city to play in on the road? Wait, to play in? We're talking fans. I'm talking post-game activities. Miami.

By far. Easy? It's a different planet. It's a different planet, boy. And listen, when you land in Miami, ain't no go to put your bags in the room or none of that. As soon as you get off the bus, you tell the bellman, hey take it wherever the room at, take it. Leave the bags right there, I'll be back later. You can leave them right here, but the limo was ready. The limo ready for us. So when y'all played, it was Miami. When I got in the league, that's when Drake and them started. That's when Drake and The Weeknd and they arrived.

So to me, it was Toronto for me because that's when Drake was around, like just coming up and The Weeknd and everything. So they had the city. Like Mona, they had it all really popping, popping, like Carabanas. When I first came in, Toronto was the city because of Vince. Yes. And Vince had like that weekend there. And I heard it was bananas over there.

Vince brought bottle service to Toronto. I watched the doc and that's what they said. Y'all talking about this Vince? Yeah. Yeah. We had exclusive access. But it was like Miami, Atlanta, Miami, Atlanta. People like going out of New York.

Yeah, New York. New York was fine. Yeah, I wasn't really. It was a dinner in New York. Me, I didn't go. My eight years, I did not go out in New York until I retired. I had to have surgery there, and then I had to eat. But during the NBA, what?

You look out the window, 2 in the morning, people walking next to people, rats running around, I'm good. How was Seattle? I'm good. Seattle was lit. Vaguely remember. You didn't go to Seattle? I heard Seattle was lit. I didn't really go out. One, when I first, I couldn't afford it.

And I was too young, so I wasn't really going out. When I got to Washington and I started partying, I ended up getting hurt. I first, I couldn't afford it. Right? And I was too young, so I wasn't really going out. When I got to Washington and I started partying, I ended up getting hurt. I mean, I got hurt and then I started partying. And then once I got a taste of fame. It was a wrap. It was a wrap. I got one eye, the fame was better than the-

So you ain't had no OG, no vets that was like, roll with me young fella earlier? Cause KG used to, you know, like he didn't party in the city in Minnesota. He never went out. When we went on the road, Miami, New York, Atlanta, it was lit. It was lit.

I didn't have no vets like that. I was trying to find one. Most of the vets, they married. Like Twan would go to dinner or something when we was in Washington. Twan, Jameson. Jameson, yeah, yeah. We'll do dinner. I'm like, I'm good.

This shit boring. Like, I'd rather eat room service, bro. Yeah, that marriage thing didn't mean a whole lot for a whole lot of niggas. You know what I'm saying? It didn't mean a whole lot. We out. We out. Allegedly.

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So we talked earlier in the week about how Steph has that dog in him. And he showed it last night with a 50-piece against the Clippers. It's the seventh time dropping 50 after age 30, which ties Wilford to NBA record. Only problem is, it wasn't enough to get the win. The Warriors lost their ninth straight road game. They're now 7-28 on the road this season.

They got their last road win at the end of January against the Thunder. But they're still 6-6 in the West right now, and they're like a game and a half behind the Suns for fourth place. So what are the chances, 0-100, the Warriors can win a playoff series without home court advantage?

I mean, they've done it. With a group like that, especially the main group, they've been there, they've done that. It all depends on who they're going against. You know, they're going to be the rock star team that comes in. So four-time champ. So, you know, that does mean something in playoffs.

Okay. So, you know, regular season, you know, regular season and playoffs is two different games. So, you know, when they when they come into that building, you know, and they get the shooting and, you know, as a home team, you get nervous and you get nervous in the playoffs. You know, Steph get to doing what Steph do. Clay coming down with that straight that straight killer look on them. And, you know, it- And the playoffs ended today. Warriors beat a road team against the Grizzlies.

So Brandon, you think they could win that series? Yeah, I do. I mean, they're still the champions, but they're going to need, you know, they're going to need Andrew Wiggins. They're going to need GP too. You know, they're going to need their defenders. I think that's where they're struggling right now.

The defense, the defensive end of their team. You know, Poole, like I would like to see Poole be a little bit more aggressive on the defensive end, a little bit more, you know, because right now they're kind of, you know, they're down players. So I think they need to get their defense together, though. If they're going against the Grizzlies in that matchup specifically, I'm not rolling with the Warriors just because of the animosity between the two, Ja being the X factor. And if Ja coming in hot, we really depending on the Warriors making shots or not.

They live or die on making shots, right? Klay didn't make shots last night. They lose on the road. I feel like Jordan Poole should be inserted in over Clay just because he brings more offensive firepower to the team. Clay's always going to hit shots but if he's not hitting shots, they lose a whole dynamic of the offense which showed last night cuz he wasn't hitting and so going against Memphis with Dylan

Brooks and Draymond, if Steven Adams comes back, he's healthy. They're starting to get a little momentum. So I'm really not trusting the Warriors against them, but anybody else, they'll win a home game. So this ain't 2022 no more, basically. They're going to have to prove that. Yeah, that's what I feel. They're going to have to prove it.

I mean, you know, that crowd in Memphis is really good. But, you know, you still got to be able to, you know, play. You still got to be able to play. You got to be able to win four games. That's the biggest thing. You got to win four games. And you got to play in Golden State. In Golden State, too.

I mean, that's the only thing I'm shaky about. It's like, it's not Oakland. It's San Fran. So tell me the difference, though. I keep, that's the only thing I'm shaky about. It's like it's not Oakland. It's San Fran. So tell me the difference though. I keep hearing that. I play in Oakland, so I know that arena and I know that 6-man. Okay, it's like New York playing in New York versus playing in Miami, which that's technically a home crowd for them too. One is more polite and one is rude.

So San Fran is polite. You know what I'm saying? Wine and cheese. Wine and cheese. Tech Bros and E-40. Yeah. But you got E-40 going there. Oakland is all E-40s. All E-40s. Young E40 going there. Oakland, it's all E40s.

All E40s. Young E40s, not the old, not the high feet. Yeah, it's the high feet. And then it just felt like Oakland is on top of you. It's on top of you. The new arena is more spread out. In Oakland, it was on top of you. You could feel the fans.

That's how with the Kings. If the Kings was still at the Arco I think they're like like the way they're playing it would be hard to go win a playoff game in there they loud because it's right there right there like so that you know it's like you know like um you never played in like Oregon right no Oregon like who Kentucky back quarterback I don't know I don't know how their arena is but like with the Ducks you know it's because it's high, so all sound goes down. Yeah, that's kind of Kentucky.

They got their whole side of the arena that goes up. Yeah, that sound just tripping. You're like, ooh. Yeah, it's like, ah! That's what they're saying. They're just like, dump that booze. Man, I'm like, yeah. I felt that shit.

So let's talk about Andrew Wiggins a little bit. And first and foremost, just for everybody out there, there was a report that broke on the Internet today that was super grimy. Nobody was able to corroborate it. Basically, we're not going to get into it. But just say, beware of the bullshit that you see on the Internet. Make sure you always fact-check, confirm things before you run wild with a story because you end up causing situations that are unnecessary.

Now, you gentlemen are plugged in, tapped in. We know what the real reason why Andrew Wiggins is not playing. It's a privacy issue. We're not going to tell y'all we ain't snitches. But it's some real shit that one of the teammates has described. So we're sending prayers out to Andrew and his fam. For sure. But what does he mean to this Warriors team?

And how much of the Warriors miss Wiggins out there on the court? You have a smaller KD type, right? this Warriors team and how much of the Warriors miss Wiggins out there on the court? You have a smaller KD type, right? But he don't need to be at that KD level for Golden State to win. He's going to battle on both sides of the floor. And one thing he's going to give you, he's going to give you a guaranteed 17 to 21. Guaranteed. You can just ink it in. He is very consistent at what he does and just that extra consistent player.

You don't have to worry about Wiggins going two for 15. He's going 17 to 21. You can just write it in. And I think that's what they're missing. It's one of those things when you look at him now, you didn't appreciate him. Just fans, we don't appreciate the consistency that he does. And when he's not there, you're like, damn, we do need him. And that takes a lot of pressure off Klay, too.

When Klay's having bad, like you said, he wasn't shooting it well. But Wiggins coming there, get that 17-21, but that's what's missing. So now it's putting the pressure on other guys that's not really used to stepping up like that, and it's showing. So it's like, you know. But I hope everything is all right with him and he comes back, though. But you've got to analyze a lot of the game when you talk about breaking down one player and how important he is to the team.

Andrew Wiggins is going to give you the 17 to 21, but he's going to give you seven, eight rebounds. He's going to give you five, six assists. He's going to defend. He's going to run the floor. He's going to do the little things that they need so desperately right now that gives them the spark that the other players just can't do. And he's athletic, right? He doesn't show the emotion, which fits into their culture because they're not a very emotional team, but he understands what he brings to the table. I think he's a better Chris Middleton. He can offer a lot more than what Chris does, but he can also get lost in the sauce.

He can take the backseat a little too much, and that's what scares me about him, although we'll praise him for what they need. Now there are still lapses that he has that in times of need he disappears. Better than Chris Middleton? I think so. I was going to say the same thing. Better than Chris Middleton? I think so.

I'm talking about as far as the defense, as far as rebounding. Like Wiggins is 6'8", right? 6'8", 6'9". They both about the same, right? Middleton's like 6'6", 6'7". I think Wiggins is 6'8", right? 6'8", 6'9". They both about the same height. Middleton's like 6'6", 6'7". I think they're both around 6'7", but I'm a couple. It's an argument that anyone can make because Wiggins, he doesn't have to try to score, right?

So, you know, he's the fourth option, third, fourth, between him fourth between him and pool who's going to be three and four Middleton is the second option, you know, and then he's the first option in the last five minutes, you know So they're both in two different time frames if you if you flip them, you know, that's a But we've seen we've seen Wiggins is the number two in Minnesota and how that went and Zack was number three and he still deferred a lot more To cat and Levine, but he could handle the number two. So him being number three now I'm looking at him like you're not better than Chris at this point, but you can be if you were

The guy that had to be the number two for the Warriors. And so we're talking about this Warriors squad. He's going to make sure his butt's going to get better. I don't know about that, man. I don't agree with that. We talk about the Warriors being down. Obviously, Mr. Wiggins, news broke that Iggy got a fracture left wrist.

It's going to require surgery. Hasn't been playing a lot this year. Only played in eight games. He's averaging basically two, two and two in very limited playing time. But just in the overall scope of what this Warriors team, that dynamic, what does he mean to this squad? Just a veteran leader. He's that veteran leader that every team needs. You know, when you say put your ego aside, you know, when he was in Philly,

he was the number one option. And then when the number one option came, he said, hey, I'll be number two. Right? And then, you know, with the Warriors, he's a starter. Get to the championship, you know, round. And, you know, Harrison Barnes comes in. I come off the bench, no problem. He's done, when you say sacrificing for the team,

he's the prime example of a player who can take his ego and say, this is the betterment of the team. Absolutely. He's one of those guys that we all, just players growing up, they should look at him. Like, you know, it's, he, he was a franchise guy to say, you are the guy and he's seen someone who was better fit. Hey, I can be, I can be Pippen.

Yeah. You know, you know, Jordan come, Jordan, you know, Michael Jordan come here. I can be Pippen and do all these things. And he's one of those guys that was always great at, and he's like the Jimmy Butler style Yes, I did you want him if he has to take over a game he has the capability But for the most part he's you know, he's willing to be the second second option. So is that so Is that the approach that Paul George should have took?

Instead of saying it like how PG said it, should he just did it like Andre? Like Andre didn't say it, it's just like the work spoke for itself. Yeah, but it's something like they both remind me of one, two options. It's like both of them, but's like, but it's perfect. Both of them can decide who's going to be number one. There shouldn't be you're one, I'm two because that's not how you two guys play. You guys are hybrids, both of you. Yeah, you guys are franchise guys.

So you guys can sit here and, you know. We're talking about a younger Iggy, right? Obviously not younger. Younger Iggy. Just make sure. So right now he's just a great steady vet. If you call on him, he'll go out there and play. If not, you know, it's –

And when y'all were coming up, who were those veteran presidencies in y'all careers? Hold on. Let me comment on Dre because I got to give him his flowers, man. And I see Dre as a highly intelligent player to be able to – Arizona. Take himself – Bear down.

Into the six-man role. His book, The Six Men, he explains what it takes to put yourself in the situation of taking a back seat, realizing where you are most important to a team. And throughout his career, he's shown that. He's shown his importance to every team that he's played on. And think about a guy that's been labeled a franchise player to go to a six-man, then win a finals MVP, and then win a couple more championships with a team where you don't have to take the credit.

Your imprint is on the team because you're intelligent. And he's shown that since school. He's been the guy that can play defense, pass the credit. Your imprint is on the team because you're intelligent. And he's shown that since school. Like, he's been a guy that can play defense, pass the ball, defer, right, take the credit. And I love everything about Dre. Like, from when we was playing AAU, Illinois Warriors. Like, he's been a guy that's been fierce, competitive. His integrity for the game, everything about him has always

been top notch and I hope he gets better man. I just seen Dre too the other night, right, so I'm at dinner and Dre was like, he comes up to me and he goes, hey what's up BJ, I heard everybody's with a, every active player that got a podcast is trash, huh? And I'm like, nah not you, nah not you, I'm just saying everybody shouldn't be getting Every active player that got a podcast is trash Everybody with a podcast trash, I'm like no not you not you But now so you go go get the book go get it. Yes, sir. Make sure you purchase our great $1 book,

The Sixth Man, available in stores nationwide. Big plug. Big plug. We plug on this show. We need to get Iggy on the show, man. Yeah, man. But who are the

veteran presidents for y'all? I want Iggy. It was God. But who are the veteran presidents for y'all, guys like Iggy, when you were coming up? You didn't have one?

What? Who? Did you see my – I got drafted to the Golden State Warriors. Chris Mills? Hell no. No, I mean, no. Damn. Let me think about it.

Chris going to knock on the door. No, Donna Foyle. Okay. But first of all, I was hard-headed anyway, so I wasn't listening to nobody. So what? Comparable to a young Jai, if you will. Worse. He said it.

Worse when I say, if I had 40 million with my attitude, I would still be under a prison. I would still be under the prison. I would still be under the prison. Just saying. Damn. I'm not even going to lie. No, I think for me, man, I had some good vets, man. I had Kurt Thomas, Jerry Stackhouse, Luke Ridenour. Luke was supposed to start, you know, that year.

Scouser was going to go with him. But, you know, him just, you know, I went in there, I started, and him just being a good vet, helping me that whole year, that's why we were able to be so successful, too. Michael Redd was also there with me. So I had some good vets, man, that was really talking to me, just telling me about just different things about the... Larry Hughes.

Okay. See, I knew it. Larry Hughes is why, like, he... Because he had to put up with me. He had to put up with me. I'm going to go two guys. Obvious, KG. You know, we was good friends for the two years that he was there, when I was there.

But Ricky Davis, tricky Ricky, tricky, tricky. He was a guy who showed me the ropes as far as how to maneuver off the court. You know what I'm saying? How to, you know, touch down, order stuff, dress. You know what I'm saying? Be appropriate. But also be yourself. You know what I'm saying?

Don't lose who you are. And I appreciate that. And Ticket, of course, showed the luxury side. You know, walking to the private plane, he's like, yo, young'un, take this in. Walking to the private plane, this is what it's about. This is what it's about. When you show up to a hotel, don't accept the room they give you.

Go to the desk and you get the room you want. You got money. Use your money to be lavish. This is something that you can't duplicate this lifestyle after it's gone. I understand that now. The years that I had in the league, I took advantage of living a certain way that I can remember

like, hey, I know what it's supposed to be like. What kind of rules were they giving you? They give you the regular room, but Ticket was in the executive suite with the whole panoramic. It's like, yo, he get this room and we get the Contract that you had to have that yeah There were out of my contract. Yes presidential. Yes. Okay, that's fire. Yes

All right, let's keep moving. I got to keep the show on track because, as y'all know at home, we might talk about topics for about 45 minutes. It'll be elaborate, beautiful discussion. But then we got all these other great topics to get into. Sometimes we don't get to them. Let's do it. So let's talk about these Nuggets, man.

Nuggets have been, what, first in the West since December. Currently on a four-game losing skid, their longest losing streak of the season. So Mike Malone was very critical of his squad after they got smacked by the Raptors Tuesday night. Let's take a listen. And you can't be in chill mode with 13 games to go in the season. We got to try to find a way to get our swagger back

and get back to playing Denver Nugget basketball. And maybe we've got a little soft with success. And we've been on cruise control for so long, number one in the West, since December 15th. And again, I just told our players, we've gotten away from who we are. So we're going to talk about the Nuggets, but first we've got to talk about the guy with the Nuggets, him if you will, Nikola Jokic. Two straight MVPs. Now earlier this season, Joker basically alluded to the fact that he didn't really give a shit about winning his third straight MVP.

You know, Larry Bird, the last guy to do it, he said, go ahead, let Larry have it. So I want to ask y'all, what are the chances, zero to 100, that Joker cares about winning this third MVP? 100. Okay. 100. So you think it was capped when he said that?

No, no, it was probably capped back then, but the fact that it's here now, 13 games to go, and he's averaging a triple-double, and he's the front-runner. Come on. It's history. But I think you blame the skid on him. Everything that's happening is because he's getting the attention that he's getting and it's deferring from the team.

Sometimes in a team dynamic, you've got to look at the guys around and why they're not playing up to par. It's because all the attention's on this one guy and his performance. So if Joker's not getting a triple-double out there, it's like, oh, we're going to lose because Joker don't want to get his numbers. But Joker, he's been balling. Yeah, he's been balling. He's been balling during his four-game losing streak. So you look at the

performances he's been putting up, it's really centered around him and not the Denver Nuggets. So as a team, the team morale is like, eh, if Joker don't put his numbers up, we're not gonna win. So Michael Porter, Murray, these guys aren't mature enough to step up and get rid of the noise on the outside and say, man, we're a team. Let's not worry about how many MVPs Joker going to win. Let's take ourselves past the playoff little roadblock that we keep running into.

Let's get past that, and then we'll address all this other shit. I think they stuck in that road. They just stuck behind Joker's whole three MVP and all that shit. Well, they better figure it out because they going to get shipped for him. But also, I don't think they should have traded Bones Highland. I agree. Like, Bones Highland was a good pickup for them. Like, I don't know why.

He was young. He still had a lot going. Like, I think that's going to be key's gonna be key to what do you think? About Reggie being there you didn't think Reggie fit It's okay, but it's not like bones just had some type of he's just different in the street energy like you know What you know young smiling like a lot like he was like you could tell he was happy to be there Absolutely now I got to talk to bones a few times and I will say this It seems like for me and I ain't gonna speak

For bones, but he was looking at Jamal Murray like y'all could cook this do sign up what you talked about before in that rookie symposium Oh, it's like no matter how good you do in practice You got a guy over you who's making the big bread and I agree to so I know there was some tension there I think him and Mike Malone got into it. They made him fly commercial at one point like Get the fly with the team. Wait, I never heard that. Yeah, they made him fly commercial, fly earlier in the season.

So you could see that these things were coming, but it's wild to me to see him go to the Clippers now and basically just be chilling on the bench. And I was not even playing. It's like, yo, this kid can go. This kid can really go. I just think they've been number one for so long. They just like, eh. I mean, they've lost four in a row, and there's still four. They've lost four

in a row. Yeah. And there's still four or five games in first place. Damn. And then Grizzlies in second. Yeah, they're four and a half games. The Kings and the Grizzlies are both four and a half games. Certain teams are just certain teams. Yeah, you know what I mean? So it's not like they're worried about ever dropping a second. Right. You know,

we'll just ease. We'll just ease going. For a team like that, who's obviously not got to the finals, got to a Western Conference but got smacked, is that the right mentality to have at this point in the season? Don't Golden State it. I think they get smoked first round. I don't know. It depends.

It all depends on who you put. But what I'm saying, don't Golden State it. Don't chase this record of trying to be dominant and then drop that egg when it would count. So them not going as hard or them not finishing off and they have this lead, I'm not really too concerned. I know what you're saying, but the way this West is shaking out this season, they got 46 wins right now, 13 games to go. They're not cracking 60 wins.

It's not like they're going for records or anything. They're going to have a mid-50 win season. But, I mean, what I'm saying, even the people that's trailing behind them, it's like, eh, it's two young teams. It's two babies. They're little babies. They're babies. Let's talk about Joker's two young teams. It's not even, it's two babies. They're little babies. Little babies. Let's talk about Joker a little bit more.

So, you know, if you've been on Twitter, you've been on the Internet, you've seen the anti-Joker propaganda out there with clips of some of his bad defensive performances. We're showing some of them right now. But as Nuggets fans, we'll passionately defend Joker and say the analytics don't support that narrative that he's a bad defender. So when you watch this stuff, and these are just clips, these are highlights, I could

cut together highlights and make a player look like the greatest player of all time or the worst player of all time, depending on the clips that I use. But how good of a defender is Joker? I don't think he's a good defender at all. I think he's lazy on defense. There's a lot of players that exert more energy on offense than they do on defense just because it's needed. But then there's the sense of urgency, right?

You could tell the sense of urgency of a player when they're needed on the defensive end. Like, you're the anchor. You're the big guy. You're the biggest guy on the floor. And all you got to do is be big, and you're not. And you're just kind of lazy with it because you got to preserve your be big and you're not and you're just kind of lazy with it because you got

to preserve your energy i get it but these clips that we see these are like if you're a coach if you've ever been trashed in film sessions but the coach is like rewind that rewind that again that gets you hot it's got all about rewind it again again. We want to get you higher. Yeah, we see a coach while you keep Stop rewinding is like yeah, look we can't allow this come on like it's accountability at some point but players can't Well, I'm not gonna say can't players don't want to hold other players accountable because then that creates a riff Some coaches don't want to do the same thing because they don't want to put that player in a bad mood. So now we in a sensitive culture where you can't really tell Joker, you're not playing on defense, bro. Hey, what record are they?

The first in the West. Okay. No defense. You can nitpick at everyone's defense. Like Embiid looks lazy to me sometimes on defense. But he says he wants to be the defensive player of the year, but he don't look like he ever plays defense. You're going to say, wait,

no NBA slander. On the Lord's Thursday. I'm sorry. You don't look like he ever plays defense? He doesn't play outside defense. But that's what... But that's where Simmons came. That was his side of the field together

Everyone got their own job. So Yoko's out here passing scorned rebounding. So we're supposed to be playing someone getting paid for defense Yes, Aaron Gordon. There's not enough money for me to play office You Okay, give me a two-way check thank you because I've seen Defensive checks when you can only play defense. I've seen those checks and they do not look good. Okay. I seen the Bruce Bowens check Uh-huh, and I've seen the genoa this check. I'd rather take the genoa side. Thank you, right? Yeah Cena Rajah bail Check I'd rather take the Ginobili side. Thank you, right? Yeah, I've seen a Raja bail Check Straight defensive player. Yeah, trust me your value is not value like that, right? But we talked about this league now and it seems like it's very offensive driven. We've had this conversation before So how can you not look past what Joker's doing on the offensive side, averaging 10

assists as a big man? But at the end of the day, they're trying to justify not giving it to him. When we can do that to every player. We can do that to every player. You're trying to figure out how not to give it to him and give it to someone else. At the end of the day, right now it's Joker, Greek, Embiid. It's Joker. Joker.

Right now, according to the folks in Vegas, it's Joker, it's Embiid, and it's Giannis. But those numbers a week ago were stretched. Now they're like, come on, man. Embiid is third, period. The Sixers are 6-1 right now. Emb come out. I got to look at the record, man. And B is third, period. The Sixers are 6-1 right now. And B's been killing. Cool.

6-1. What place are they in? Excuse me. You said on this show, this very show, on this very plush leather couch, that if they could become the number one team in the East. Yeah. But he's not. But they're close.

They're closing in. They're three and a half games out of first. It's not happening. It's not happening. And're close. They're closing in. They're three and a half games out of first leg. It's not happening. It's not happening. And Giannis plays defense. Yeah. Cleared. So they got updated MVP eyes. I got the legend bearing in my ear.

So Embiid now has jumped to the front of the MVP race. So it's Embiid, Joker, Giannis right now. I'm just telling you. 12, 13 games left in the season. I'm just telling you. But see, that's the Keidra Perkins now. They running a narrative. Yes.

That's a narrative run. Yes. Y'all can't do that shit. Yes. You can't do that. You can't do that. Listen, he was supposed to have it two years ago. We get that.

All right? All right. That's y'all fault. That is y'all fault. Y'all can't make it up. Y'all can't do that make up shit. Listen, Joker, Giannis,

Embiid. If you want to go 1A, 1B, and 3, because he ain't 2, he's 3. He's playing well, congratulations, but he's not doing anything different than last year. Two more points, it's nothing different than he did last year and the year before that. He has

not made no quantum leap of nothing. So you can't justify it. If you didn't give it to him last year, what is he doing this year that changes? There's no quantum leap. He hasn't done anything. It's not like if he was averaging 35, what did he average? 31 last year? 31 last year, 33 this year.

Woo! The fuck is the difference? So they're all scheduled to play each other Yeah, I'll be at the end of that part is you gonna fuck joke up He don't do that if this was about his performance as Against Joker the one-on-one match. Oh, yeah, and beat all day all day, but but we can't do that That's not it's about the 82 games and that's how it really looks. I'm about to wake up that dog.

I hope Giannis is watching this. Woo hoo. What does Freedom think about this? He said some bullshit. Bullshit. Woo! Yo, you ready? Do you and Giannis still have beef?

Y'all cool? We never had beef! He was taking shots at you. No. He did? You didn't see? This was a while ago. No, he didn't. You didn't see?

This was a while ago. It was... He didn't say anything? He said, if I'm what, 40, 50? Right, that one? He was talking about somebody else. Because it was like 50, right? I'm like, I'm not there yet.

I'm not there yet. Who's the beef with? So Gil, you know, had some questions about Giannis' game and his improvement. Obviously, the internet did what they did. Giannis got a hold of it. Didn't attack Gil directly, but has some things to say. But we're going to get you out to Milwaukee. Greek restaurant.

You, Giannis, sit down. Y'all going to be like Jalen Rose and Josh. I have my Giannis hat And my shirt If the Bucks win The championship this year You gotta do an episode In a Giannis jersey Listen I just gave

Okay And we're gonna get Local kids in the community We're gonna take them To the little AMC over here And we watch it rise Listen they're 1A and 1B We watch it rise

You know if I was a hater I would've made them three Right Okay Nah It's good to see I'm glad to see that you Trended in the right direction.

Let's go. Let's go. Wait, hold on. Hold on. This is a quick question. Does Doc Rivers, does he have an MVP player in his resume? Has anybody won an MVP while he's been a coach? No.

No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No.

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No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. coach. No, no, no. Sorry, sorry, Embiid. Sorry. So, is it Doc's fault? No, I'm just kidding.

Doc got an MVP lineup, though. We got to at least give him that. So, he got a lineup? He got that MVP lineup. I thought that was a tattoo. So, the TMAC finished fourth when Doc coached him, but... Wait, Doc was part of that 0-20? That was that 0-20 start?

Is that a 20-game losing streak? No, I'm just kidding. It was the 18. It was with the Celtics-20? That was that 0-20 start? Is that a 20-game losing streak? It was the 18. It was with the Celtics, right? No. No, when he was with Orlando. When T-Mac was with the Magic. But he did one with the Celtics, too. They did 18 straight.

Losses? Yes, when Paul took the break and he went on vacation. This was before they traded Sebastian and them guys. Oh, before. 18 straight losses. Damn. They were trash. And we're going to talk about these Celtics in a little bit. Ladies, before, okay. Eighteen straight losses. Damn. They were trash. We're going to talk about these Celtics in a little bit.

Ladies and gentlemen, that's what we call a tease. Make sure you keep watching because it's going to get real spicy up here. But it's March Madness. Rashad, you got the... We always compliment you on the matchup fits, the crown. I feel like the internet's really starting to come around and embrace the crown. Me too. But a lot of people can't get it off. I think that's what they're really salty about.

They mad. They mad. Like, I ain't got no crown. What the fuck is he wearing that crown for? But you came through with the North Carolina, the nice jacket, the nice shoes, clean. But we got to talk about your squad. We got to talk about these Tar Heels. Yeah.

Let's talk about them. So North Carolina, preseason number one. Things was looking good. Y'all was in the title game last year. Caleb Love out here doing it. Cooked my Bruins last year, so I had to respect him. St. Louis very young. But this season, finished 20-13 overall, seventh in the ACC.

And to cap off a tough season, didn't get that NCAA tourney bid, but the NIT pulled up and look you could keep the whole season alive But coach Hubert Davidson in the UNC squad decided to reject that NIT bid Yeah, so what are the chances zero to 100 that if you were Hubert Davis and you were at, North Carolina You would accept a bid to the NIT if I was the coach We definitely going okay, we definitely going we can't we can't end the season off of a rejection One we got to prove ourselves and if we can win the NIT, let's go win it, right? Let's just give the kids something to feel good about because a lot of those kids probably gonna go to the transfer Can't take that type of shame, right? Preseason number one, to not go to the tournament, that says a lot, right, about the culture

of where the tradition of UNC basketball is. It's not big man school no more. You can't depend on Bay Coot or any kind of big man coming in there to take you to the top like Sean May and Tyler Hansborough and John Henson and all those guys. So now it's about Rebuilding rebuild it even though you went to the championship, you know the year before, you know Caleb played out and all that kind of stuff. But I see now that it's a it's a Systematic thing. It's a culture thing. It's where the basketball is going now in overall college sports. Did y'all go to the NIT when you were there?

Yeah, my freshman year. Matt Doherty. Freshman year. What y'all played? We played Georgetown and then Colorado. Wait, can I ask y'all, what is that? What? When I read, I thought y'all said NIL.

NIT. I thought they... Damn, I need to erase my notes. I thought they said NIL. They rejected NIL deals. The National Invitational Tournament, Gil. It used to be the shit back in this heyday. Pre-season NIT. Yeah, NIT.

Pre-season NIT. Oh, they have a... Oh, they have... Post-season. What teams go there? The teams that don't make the tournament. The teams that don't make the tournament.? Teams that don't make the tournament. Teams that don't make the tournament.

Yeah, the teams that don't make the tournament. The 69 team or whatever. Like the JV league. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Damn. You get a whole award and everything. You went to the JV league? Freshman year, we didn't make the tournament.

Damn. But after that, Matt Gordy. He was gone. Got that boot. Yeah, he was gone that book. Yeah He was the reason why but Carolina Carolina need to make some change. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on. So y'all went from no Just y'all from number one preseason, right?

to number 69 and Not damn not even making it But it's the audacity is that like where the juke oh like you call y'all pick as you calls and stuff like no B1 Oh, no, I saw D1 just everybody didn't make the turn. Yeah, they didn't make it So y'all play like Pepperdine and schools like yeah, I'll ride over Yeah We might matter North Carolina y'all right that school right there You go keep blue were joy. Are you gonna call the Hall of Fame?

We're gonna be doing this y'all playing teams like Santa Maria. You're gonna keep coming Are you gonna keep doing this my man's but I'll just say this so you've been in that experience If we are not making the, playing in the NIT, do you appreciate that? Or do you wish, like, fuck it, we just get the season over, let's gear up for next year? No, you got to keep playing. You got to keep playing because the guys, they didn't want the season to end. You don't want to stop just because you didn't do it. No, they voted.

You think they voted? They voted. It said they voted. The players voted. The not to voted? They voted. It said they voted. The players voted. Not the goal? Players voted, right? I think, according to North Carolina, Coach Huber Davis had a say.

The AD had a say. The players had a say. Didn't say who had the bigger say of the three. What? Because it could have been like a janky election. Oh, y'all soft. Oh, y'all soft. I'm not rolling. There you go.

I'm not rolling. I knew he was going to come around. Yeah, I'm not rolling. Here we go. Here we go. I don't like that shit. My new favorite is Let the Squad Decide. But I'll just say this, to your point, when you were in college, that extra check, and obviously NIL, so I can't really compare it to back in the day, we want that check.

As the season goes on, you get that nice check still. You get that extra $20 a day from the NCAA. Yes. You get the extra movie pay-per-view. Yes. You get the, movie pay-per-view. Yes. You get the... They give you little gifts too. They give you gifts? Yeah, they gave us a little DVD player.

For the JV? Yeah, for the JV. I've never heard of it. I didn't go to college. You make it to the national championship game and that's how you feel? No, I'm just saying I always made it to the big stuff. We were number one. But you never cut down the nets, boy.

But I'm saying it was number one, and then it was two. Like, I've just seen that bracket. I didn't know there was a whole other bracket for JV. Because it's never been televised. But, Gil, did you play JV? It's on ESPN. Gil, ESPN. Did you play JV?

Yeah, two. That's what I'm saying. I played JV, so I know. But I know there's a JV. I didn't know there was a JV in college. In college, yes. But if I'm the coach, as a coach, I'm sorry, you're soft as shit. Yes.

You bailed out on your responsibility. Yes. And you failed your responsibility as a coach. You guys are number one, and you guys are not in a tournament, right? You're embarrassed. Finish off this embarrassment. That's like being down 30 points, and then you're in a game, and the coach don't want to

sub out, so you're trying to get a technical, so you can get kicked out, so you don't keep taking this ass-whipping. Real talk. Finish the ass-whipping. Let the kids feel. You sit there. You're North Carolina. You sit there in the NIT, the JV. You was number one, and you sit there and let north carolina you sit there in the nit the jv you was number one and you sit there and let them talk about it you win and you ain't smiling feel that yeah so you know how to

approach the next season but to pretend that it didn't happen now we're gonna reject it now we has anybody has any of our team i've never heard it i've never heard it before i've never heard of a team doing that that's weak hey hey nca, put their asses in there any motherfucking way. Put them in there anyway. If they don't show up, there you go. They got eight. They didn't show up forfeit. Let the world know forfeit.

But sitting there, yeah, just don't vote for us. No, that's coward. I'm trying to figure out what the Carolina fans really feel like because it's not, this is not an orthodox situation where Carolina fans don't get to continue to cheer even though you're not in the tournament. Like when we went to the NIT, they still showed up. We played home games. They still showed up and cheered and we could finish the year off right. Right? But if you don't, you rejecting the opportunity to finish. It feels a little bit like they were, they were potentially ducking smoke and that was the whole thing. You know, you go to NIT, you get smacked

in the NIT. Exactly. It's a double smack in, but that's what I'm saying. You're being, you can't protect, like at this point, you can't protect the name. Now the name has, you're the only team in history to ever turn it down. Wow.

That's worse. They're not the only team. There's other teams. Not big teams like this? Big teams. Big teams? I'm saying big. I don't know if y'all are the only number one to fall out and do it, but big teams. I mean, big programs.

That's like the team. We'll say, fuck the NIT. Like who? UCLA done it before? Nah. I think UCLA has done it. We got to look that up. Let me see.

But we are the first team to be preseason number one since 1985 and not make the tournament Yeah, yeah, well y'all gotta hold that and you put that oh It's just cuz I knew they was gonna be must have read this shit wrong. So you must have thought it was on my NIL deal We got a chance to win it all I've never played JD in college. I mean it was experience, but I'm rooting for Carolina to win the tournament. I'm delusional. I wear a crown. I figured I'd wear this jersey and say, remove Renewal UNC.

Sports your team, ride or die. It's important. Now, meanwhile, UCLA, I got the sweatshirt on. We're going to go ahead and get this dub tonight. We may see y'all, probably not. If y'all make it that far. If y'all make it that far. Karma, y'all're going to go ahead and get this dub tonight. We may see y'all, probably not. If y'all make it that far. If y'all make it that far.

Karma, y'all both going to lose. But we're going to keep this thing rolling. Now it's time for Mostly Fans. Mostly Fans. It ain't Only Fans. It's Mostly Fans. Oh, look at the, oh, we got the good graphics at home. I hope y'all appreciate this.

So we're going to keep, we got two topics to at home. I hope y'all appreciate this. So we're going to keep, we got two topics to talk about. We're going to keep this one quick. So Desmond Bain got ejected from the Grizzlies heat game Wednesday after catching Kevin Love with a shot to the sack. Look at, ooh. My UCLA brother, K-Love.

He got the grades now. So as y'all watch this, I'm going to ask you first, Rashad, what would you have done if Desmond Bain hit you in the junk like he did Kevin Love? I think that it was unintentional. I think it was a flop and he's flailing. He just happened to, you know, get him the wrong way.

I wouldn't have took offense to it unless it was something that he was doing before the game Like if he was you know attention to foul me before and I know he's trying to come back at me or something like that I definitely do something about it, but it don't look intentional. It's just I don't like K love So I think he's the kind of before he went to you know, we play together in Minnesota I think he a punk he tried to flex on you. Yeah, he just said some shit in the Sports Illustrated article, talking about I'm chipping on my shoulder and all this other dumb ass shit. I don't chill with K-Love like that. I didn't know.

Karma, motherfucker. Okay. Damn. Brandon, what you think? That's kind of tough. As a guard, we're taught to go past their body. So it's kind of 50-50 to me with it. I don't think he did it on purpose, though.

But I just still feel like as a point guard coming off screens, I don't ever do anything with my hand or anything like that. You quicken and fasten their body. He looked like Rainbow two out there, but he looked like this motherfucker right here. Just go. Yeah, but if something happened prior in the game, right and you about to turn the corner, say he hit you with a with a hard screen and you ain't see it, but you got a chance to

get him back. Is that a situation? Am I going for the nuts? No, no, no, I ain't going for the nuts though, but I'm gonna make sure he feel it I'm gonna run over. Yeah Give him a little you know need to the fact if I'm driving maybe high elbow to the stomach Yeah, something stay away from the reproductive organs. That's what I like. I'm looking at it and Was it a block first

Did they call block or was What do you mean? Did they call it block or was it just an offensive foul? I think it was the flop. It was the ugh. Because if you look at it, the contact was already there before the finish. As a referee, you can't call the second one. I think they reviewed it. So review it again? After the review, Desmond Maynard got a J.

That's a foul. He's already blocked. It's already a block. He's already... He's trying to get in front of him. He didn't. In the contact hitch, if you call the foul right there, this aftermath does not... So, the dick's back smashing the gate?

No, he doesn't have his hand closed. It's still flimsy. If somebody's intentionally trying to do it... But it looks like he knows if he keeps it flimsy, we're going to be on this show saying he don't have his hand closed, it looks flimsy. Nah, you've seen people when they're trying to hit you. I mean, McKevitt got his knee out, too. So it's kind of like they could have a knee to knee.

Chris, like, ball hitting niggas in the neck. When you trying to, when you trying to, you know, closing the get in the back. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He ain't trying to use fingers, though. He be like, hey. Oh. You know.

Trying to. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. I gotta save myself a fine so we gotta keep it moving we gotta talk about this Richard Jefferson Paul Pierce beef so ain't that bear down before we talk about it

let's watch the video we gotta see Richard Jefferson oh that's easy for you every time no need to talk about him We got to see. Richard Jefferson. Oh, that's easy for him. Every time. Every time. Don't even talk about him. He's sweet. This nigga's sweet.

He's sweet. Sweet. He's sweet. Look at the numbers. Numbers don't lie, man. Come on. Okay, first let me say this. Paul Pierce is one of the best players of the generation.

100% better than me. Comparing me to him is like comparing him to D-Wade. It's different stratospheres. We don't even do that. But let's address what he said. Every time. Sweet. Don't even ask me about it.

Bro, we beat you 10 out of 11 times. We beat you three times in the postseason and the conference finals. You won a game. There's even a Christmas Day game here look at somebody highlight this chris we beat you by 40 in front of all of america and i was a starting small four and then you proceeded to follow that amazing act up with eight straight more losses including getting swept in the postseason i'm not gonna sit up here and act like i was a better player than you. I'm not even going to act like that. But to disrespect and say the shit was sweet,

I think your definition of sweet is a little bit different. Before we get into it, a couple things. He didn't need to take the D-way shot. And then he said somebody highlight this like he wasn't the one highlighting it. That's Arizona, baby. We're going to make sure we get the slicing we gonna get the slicing listen listen

you know as a as bear down Richard come on we need more UCLA Bruins up in this shit bro listen listen I didn't Richard both your parents is black when did you become a Frenchman? When did you become speaking in the we form?

Right? He said you were sweet. Like, you was guarding him, and he was busting you up for 40. Now, basketball players always want to talk we, we, we. They always want to be Frenchmen. They want to use team success when you're trying to do a one-on-one fight. Deflected.

Just straight deflection. I remember another one. Listen, I came to YouTube. I came right here to this YouTube. I came to YouTube to argue with a man one-on-one. Right? He was a busted down old YouTuber. He's just a deadbeat old YouTuber. How are you going to know? He's a busted down old YouTuber. He's just a dead beat old YouTuber.

How you gonna know? No, no, I'm just saying he's a horrible YouTuber. I was whooping him so bad, just me, one on one, just whooping him so bad that he doesn't even... You don't even see his face no more. He's more like radio. Right? I mean, for him, he has a face for radio, but- Wow.

No, no, no. Trust me. If you see his face, if he ever shows it, he has a face for radio, but. Wow. No, no, no. He has. Trust me. If you see his face, if he ever shows it, he has a face for radio. So when I'm whooping him up, he became a Frenchman, too. It's like the first French person I ever fought against. He started talking. We form like we had a whole had a whole group calling themselves. We the people. This bunch of fresh black people.

Never been to France. But they want to talk in we form. So I had to fight a whole group of them people. So I understand that whole crap about like, yo, this is a one-on-one match. Richard, he's talking about you versus him. Don't try to bring in your nets and all of them.

It's just one-on-one. He said you was weak just like the person I was whippingoping on this week. Who's the YouTuber? Huh? He was a YouTuber? Just a busted-ass YouTuber. Just a busted YouTuber. Well, like you said, that is between them.

But this is my question with this Boston team. Like, they – man. Okay, first of all, who's the most overrated championship team that you guys have seen in the last 20 years? Overrated? Yeah. Like the hype was? Yeah, the hype was there, but it's like you didn't really live up to it like it was supposed to.

Boston? Boston and the Lakers? No, Kobe got two. No. This Lakers? Yeah. The LeBron Lakers. What?

The bubble? The hardest championship in history? No. When you're talking about. No home court advantage in the midst of a pandemic? No. When you're talking about championship teams, right? You're talking about.

I think that Raptors team. How you get put together. I mean, that was. To win it? Yeah. Yeah. To win it all. Yeah.

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah it all. Yeah, championship that won it all. Overrated? Yeah, the last 20 years. Like, who's the team that's the most overrated the last 20 years that won it all? That still be talking like. Who are you going to say? I'm saying the Celtics. You're saying the Paul Pierce KG Celtics with the Rondo and Ray Allen and them?

Yeah, all of them, yeah. They're supposed to win more. Yeah. I feel like they didn't achieve as. The way they talk is like, yeah. You would think they won. You know, I would think they didn't achieve as... The way they talk is like, yeah, and- You would think they won. I would think they won three or four. They did it like Bird and them.

But it's like when you look back, it's like, damn, y'all only won one ring. You guys were the first ones to do this big three thing and have this team. I get it, but it's like, I don't. If that makes sense. Or are y'all fighting that? No, I mean, they were supposed to win more. Right. Like, I remember Paul and a couple other guys making bets.

We're going to win two, three, four. And that was after the first one. You know, and they never lived up to that. Regardless of the team morale and how the team broke up and all that, and Kobe Bryant was still alive and still hooping, you know what I'm saying? But then LeBron goes and does his thing. You still got to play. You know what I'm saying?

You still got to hoop. You still got to win. Like you said, they do hold a lot of that energy. Yeah. I mean, it's like, and then it's like, okay, say if the Warriors didn't win it this year without KD. It'd be kind of like, you know, it's like, well, you guys were unable to win, but they proved that they can do it again.

Boston just never did it again. So I was confused, but we're technically talking about the same thing. So when I said them and the Lakers now, when the team got put together, you, we, French, right? Connection. We gave them multiple championships, right? So when Boston got put together, two, three, four,

because, you know, they were all ready. They had a young, great group. You thought they would have pulled out at least three championships, just like when Braun and D-. Wade got together, right? We were saying, okay, they're going to have multiple. They end up getting multiple. Y'all didn't.

Just like right now, AD LeBron, he only got one. Right? So, you know, at that point where you're talking about a team being built to win championships, right, you have to say, I mean, you can say, you know, Brooklyn. There's Brooklyn Nets because they were built to try to win championships. Second would be Boston. Third would be Lakers because they, you know, they haven't broken up yet.

What about the Hawaiian PG Clippers? Sorry, no, no. No, we don't like that word. When that news broke during the summer, that YMJ were teaming up. It's the Clippers. It's the Clippers. No, no, no.

It's the Clippers and one, Doc was the coach. Yeah. Two, Stephen A. Smith coined him as the champions. And at that point, he was 1-10. So, yeah, I was doing the math. So, you know, like at the beginning of the season, you pick a team to win, yeah yeah yeah. The media, not just Stephen, the media themselves was 1 in 10. So whoever they favored winning the championship that year, they was 1 in 10 on that one. So you know, and then it was the Clippers. So it was just, they was moving on and forth.

And then you think about all the players that Celtics had through those runs of trying to win, like Sheed, J.O., A. Shat. Now when you think about the teams that they were trying to put together to actually keep winning, then they would be in front of Jersey. I mean, I'm sorry. They're going to fight you good. Brooklyn, Brooklyn. So you steal Jersey. They should go back I mean, I'm sorry. They're going to fight you good. Brooklyn, Brooklyn. So you steal Jersey.

You can't get no Jersey. You can't get Brooklyn. They should go back. We appreciate y'all pulling up. Hopefully everybody's brackets stay intact through the weekend. I hope that busted ass YouTube is watching. And before we wrap, make it smoke. UNC.

UNC. That's how I ate all day, baby. That's how I had his page, smoking. Make sure y'all pick UNC to win it all with March Madness. I think we're like 16th seed or something like that. 17th seed. 17th seed. You picked them.

Before we wrap though, Gil, this is two straight days. You haven't said you got to remember. I'm starting to miss it. You got to remember that I'm missing it. You got to remember when I'm starting to miss it. You got to remember that I'm missing it. And you got to remember when I busted up that YouTuber. When I busted up that YouTuber, messed his whole page up. Now he over there doing the radio on YouTube. Leave him alone, man.

He over there doing the radio on YouTube. Leave him alone, man. Do y'all remember that? Why you messing with the man, man? Leave the man alone, man. He's just a busted ass YouTuber, man. That ain't important. Nobody know who he is. I ain't got nothing to do with man. He's just a busted ass YouTuber. He ain't important. Nobody know who he is.

I ain't got nothing to do with it. I'm just a busted ass. I'm an innocent bystander. I'm a pedestrian. Walk across the street. Leave me alone. I'm watching in the bleachers. We appreciate y'all tapping in with us. This has been another Gills Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy.

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