Gil's Arena - The Ja Morant Trade Rumors BLOW AWAY Gil's Arena

Episode Date: January 13, 2026

The Gil's Arena Crew react to rumors that Ja Morant wants out of the Memphis Grizzlies and discuss the best landing spot for the NBA Superstar as he looks to get his career back on track. Next, they react to Anthony Edwards taking down Victor Wembanyama to power the Minnesota Timberwolves to their 6th win in 8 games, sparking a discussion on the T-Wolves chances to make another deep run through the NBA Playoffs and if Ant-Man deserves more credit in the MVP Race as he keeps the Wolves atop the West. Finally, they react to Steve Nash's comments on the development issues plaguing American Basketball and debate if the NBA Legend is spitting or tripping as the world looks to take over the sport. Today's Gil's Arena Crew : Gilbert Arenas, Josiah Johnson, Brandon Jennings, Kenyon Martin, & Rashad McCants Gil's Arena premieres every Wednesday & Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. Sign up for Underdog HERE with promo code GIL and play $5 to get $75 in bonus funds or bonus entries https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gi... Use our code for 10% off your next SeatGeek order*: https://seatgeek.onelink.me/RrnK/ARENA10 Sponsored by SeatGeek. *Restrictions apply. Max $20 discount SUBSCRIBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAvj... Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos! https://discord.gg/underdog Must be 18+ (19+ in AL, NE; 19+ in CO for some games; 21+ in AZ & MA) and present in a state where Underdog Fantasy operates. Terms apply. Concerned with your play? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit www.ncpgambling.org; NY: Call the 24/7 HOPEline at 1-877-8-HOPENY or Text HOPENY (467369) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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If you can't watch the show live with us on YouTube, we have audio versions available on Apple, Spotify, wherever you get your podcast. So let's get right into it. So on the heels of the Trey Young Trey to the Wizards, another all-star guard may soon be on the move. According to reports, the Grizzlies are open and willing to trade John Morant

before the February 5th deadline, currently listening to offers. Grizzies took job with the number two pick in 29. It was all NBA selection, most improved player winner in 2022, while getting selected as an all-star back-to-back seasons in 2022 and 2023. So Jolly played nine games in the 23-24 season after getting suspended for the first 25 games of suffering a season ending shoulder injury. Follow that up by playing 50 games last season with the Grizzlies firing Taylor Jenkins with just a few games remaining in the regular season and replacing him with then interim and current head coach Tumas Isolo.

So in 18 games this season, Jai's averaging 19 points, which is his lowest since his rookie season, 7.6 assists. Morant's 2 point and 3 point field goal percentage are also at career lows as well. So Jai, two years remaining on his deal after this season for $87 million. Monday in the midst of the trade rumors, Jai posted the following on his Twitter account. He said, When that smoke clear over, only ones who love you going to be round. job's been sidelined for the last five games with the right calf bruise but the team is saying he could return as early as Thursday for the grizzlies game in Berlin against the magic or Sunday when the teams play each other again in London Memphis 17 and 22 this season just a game ahead of the clippers for 10th in the west for gil we'll get to you welcome back to the couch is it time for the grizzlies to move on from john morin wait grizzlies move on The Memphis Grizzlies, the fine city of Memphis. It was confused, I mean, if you had said the other way around then.

Is it time for Jaya to move on from the Grizzlies? Yes. For Jada move on. Grizzlies, I mean, I'm trying to figure out what they do next because it is Memphis. He is the only superstar the franchise has ever had. He is the one that put Memphis across the globe with the number 12 jersey and his shoe sales and his stardom amongst the kids and, you know, just fan base. Before him, they was exactly what they are, a local-ass team. and they've been local for a while

and to match what he did or what he does just be in there they have to win year after year after year his jersey sales alone since he's been there has almost outsold every single star that's ever played there

or every great player that's ever played there so them moving on will hurt their pockets because getting a guy like that is rare he is one of six Nike's signature shoe guys, right? So the fact that out of 450 people

in the league, only six Nike has approved, you are our guy, and Memphis has one of those. So he needs to move so he can get in a better market to change the atmosphere. But when it comes to Memphis themselves, they would be crippled for it because they're not going to be able to return.

cover financially the money he makes and they're going to have to win year after year after year after year and it's not a city that's going to be winning no championship in the next 50 60 years so grizzan already traded desmond bane this past summer blockbuster due to the magic four unprotected draft picks along with kCP col anthony buck col anthony now he's now with the Milwaukee bucks talked about i don't know why i didn't he done that i'm just letting you know what's going on the state of the franchise right now but let's move where to you mr b is it time for the Grizzies and John Morant to move on from each other. Yeah, I think it's fair to say that they both need to move on from each other.

The coaching staff, the organization, they're just not seeing eye to eye. And for John to get his joy back, I think he needs to be somewhere where he can just play and be himself. Like Gil said, he has the number one selling shoe right now from Nike and probably will next year. His marketing is huge. But I just think that time and what it was, it's just over. Just trying to move on and it's for the best of both. I mean, Memphis is still a franchise.

They're going to move on. They're going to be able to find somebody else. It happens. So, yeah, I think that's what it is. All right, let's shift over this side. The distinguished gentleman from Oak Cliff, obviously reports for the first time the Grizzies are open, willing, listening to trade offers.

There's been some rumbings about potential deals. They want some first round picks. They want some young talent in exchange for job. We just saw Trey, traded for C.J. McCollum and Corey Kisper, no draft picks. But you think it's time for Ja and the Grizzlies to move on from each other? Oh, of course.

Yeah, I think it's not a secret that that's a burning house. I've been stating, yeah, it's in order for the franchise to thrive even further, I've been saying it's time for them to go to Nashville. Time for Jaya to find a new dancing partner as far as a team. So, yeah, I agree in that manner. But I think the Memphis Grizzlies, they've never been built on one particular guy. It's always been strength in numbers. They've always got a collection of guys that went out and competed.

Wasn't able to turn into a championship, but they competed. And the people of Memphis and the surrounding cities, they enjoyed watching them guys play, and they spent money to go watch those guys play. was a blessing to have a guy like John Moran in the building for the time that they've had him. One of the more exciting young players in the league, yes. But what they've been built on is a collection of like-minded guys and coaching staff that goes out and plays hard and competes no matter what.

I think they'll be fine in that regard. Getting another superstar, I think they're going to have to do it through the draft, I think, that team moves out of Memphis. But, yeah, I don't, yeah, it's definitely time for each one of them to, yeah, to say their goodbyes and find a home. And I can totally understand why they want first round picks and some more capital back, you know?

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. You're not going to take it. Yeah, we know what we have and we're in control of this. So that's the beauty of it. He has, he can say where he wants to go. He can demand these things and all that, but ultimately the team has control over this. So he doesn't have a no trade clause in his contract. So ultimately, they can do what they want to and get what they want.

They can ask for King's ransom back. They can ask for it. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So therefore it's in their control. So I'll shift over Showsra Damas Cemetery Larry Rocking the John Moran, Murray State, College Jersey. Time for the Grizzlies and Jod to separate. I think the writings have been on the wall for quite some time.

Given the fact that the Memphis Grizzlies have a certain prestige that they uphold as far as getting that old feeling back from 2013 when they made it to the Western Conference Finals and having the type of team that they had then grind house, grind out basketball. ball, you know, slow the ball, slow the game down, execute, having specific pieces in place, like you said, that could literally distinguish on who on the team could take over at any given moment between Rudy Gays and the Marcosaw, Zach Randolph, Mike Connolly's. I think they've been trying to find that identity for a while now, 10 plus years. I think job coming into Memphis never really fit the culture of what they had from the original blueprint. So them trying to recreate a new blueprint just didn't work out. I think Jaron Jackson Jr. also looking to be moved.

Desmond Bain already gone. It just looks like they're just breaking the team up and going a different direction. I think having Zach Eadie there, I think having access to some draft picks, Being able to go through the looking glass and trying to figure out where they can go from the future standpoint, they're going to be in a total re-haul, total rebuild. And it's okay for, you know, try to go to Miami where, you know. That's, you know. Hashtag heat culture, but.

You can start over, start fresh. You know what I'm saying? One thing I know ain't going to be going on. It won't be none of this shit going on on the sideline. Okay. There's going to be nothing of that going on. So recorded reports, y'all, now that you brought there, let's shift to that side. According to reports, several teams reached out to the grisies about Jha, Heat, Kings, Bucks, Raptors, and Wolves being named as potential options.

I think it was report today from Rachel Nichols that Jah prefers to go to the Miami Heat. So you think that Jai would be a good fit with that Miami squad? Well, as far as his preference is concerned, it's one thing. and I think what he's looking at as far as dynamic and availability in his position fast-paced being able to

depend on other guys to do certain things I think Miami's in the same situation the Memphis is in. They're ready to recalibrate, start over and they need a point card desperately. I think getting rid of Tyler Hero maybe possibly get rid of BAM can give you a different asset value for Miami and

they just need a whole new they need to be electrocuted you know they need a whole new energy down there and you know Superstar wanted to go to Miami is kind of different it's full circle so he wants to go there yeah but other I said they possibly wanted to go there as well. It didn't work out. But, yeah, one thing, if that is the destination, there's some hard conversation going to be had. Right?

Because the one thing I know, that man upstairs, hey, he took a nigga chocolate chip cookies. It did take the Brock. And hardly the best player, it was the best player at the NBA at the time. So, hey. He did take the cookies. As long as Pat upstairs, bro, hey, good luck.

Are you guys like playing with the heat to being in a prison cell with the ocean front view, basically? It turns a lovely city, but obviously Pat runs a tight ship over there in Miami. What do you think about the prospects of Jai going to Miami Heat and being a part of hashtag heat culture? Don't take this the wrong way. I see you still on the bullshit. When in the New Year, you still ask some questions that just nobody's going to Miami. they said they want draft picks, huh? They want picks and players.

Who the fuck is over in Miami that anybody wants in this NBA? You can you tell me in the last 10, 15 years, a Miami player that left and was successful when they left? One, two? One. Just Jimmy? And we still question on that, right? Okay, so I don't think Memphis,

even though they seem desperate right now, I don't think they're that desperate to take anything that's coming out of Miami. Right? They better look west, right? See what's over there in O'KC? See what, you know, the Spurs got it. They can look over there, see what the Houston Rockies is doing over there.

That's where the basketball players are. There ain't no basketball players in Florida right now, fair. I'm sorry, man. Unless they go into Orlando. Unless they're going to Orlando. The entire thing. You know, I'm just telling you right now, Miami. They need to let it go.

I don't know why BAM's still there. So I don't even know how their name keeps. It seems like they just put their names into everything. I don't know if anybody's really serious about going to play over there, man. Those are the reports. I want picks and players and then you say Orlando. The heat. I mean the heat.

But the heat, expiring contracts do have any draft capital. What draft capital got? They own some of their future. What are they on? Future. Future what I'm saying? What? 301, 31, 32.

38, 40, 47. This shit they've been picking for the last 10 years. They got their 2020. Some GPD league players. 2026 pick, 2020, 2030, 2031. So they got this year. They want to put some draft capital in the end of the pack. You know what about Minnesota?

Do people want shit now. And so we got anything? Who? For who? Memphis. For what? Sam, backwood. But y'all diggers just be talking. Y'all didn't even. Don't want out. You y'all don't think.

What's wrong with Minnesota? What's wrong with John Moran and Anthony L was playing together? A whole lot. That's why is that true? No. Too dynamic backwards. Will not work. The YNBA?

That shit would not work. That shit would not work. That shit would not work. I like it. That shit terrible. So did. Two hostels. No. Did it?

Two hostels get them going crazy out there every night. Did Atlanta get anything for Tray Young? They got a CJ McCollum's expiring contract and a box at ease. So why wouldn't fucking chocolates? Why wouldn't the Grizzlies in Miami do something?

They have more assets than C.J. McCullough. Because what they said, they want back. They want picks and players. They want, they're not trying, listen, one thing I know about Pat Riley, man, that man want to fucking win. He's not into that rebuilding shit and starting from the bottom, man.

They won championship Lakers here Listen man that man want to win That man's so fucking competitive He's not fin to just take shit back Just to take shit back Because the guy has a name He will

He has been 10 plus years He does He does drive on generational type of talent That's where all of his Winning came from since Yes I understand that But 10 plus years

I hear you So 10 plus years We need to change We need a evolution So If the piece is in Miami right now, Norman Powell, Tyler Hero, Bam out of bio, Khalil Ware, even Vasquez. That's five guys. Triple J.

Right? Potential. All five I named are better assets than C.J. McCullough. Oh, wait, wait. Are you going off of C.J? No. Everyone's not stupid like Atlanta. You're thinking everybody's that dumb.

I'm just saying when you want to move off of an asset. But you want to win, too. Yeah, but job. hold on to summon them to do that. Who wants to go? Does Jai want to go? Or does Memphis want Jock to go? Both. It's both. It's both. It's mutual. So the same was happening in Atlanta.

It's mutual. The mutual, I need to get out of here. It's a burning house. So understand. In the burning house, when you're trying to figure out, am I just going to stick down here and just stick it out and just die in the house too? Or are we all going to get the fuck up out of here?

So to answer this question. So relationship with organizations matter, right? So trade relationship with the Atlanta Hawks has been positive up to now. No. Up to, not his teammates. The people that he's dealt with been positive for the more. It ain't even close to shit that John Morant put on them people to play Memphis.

So they're just trying to get rid of you, dog. That just recently happened, though. Listen, man, they took CJ and the other kid just to get rid of the motherfucking. Yeah, because he, they're trying to get, they're not just going to take some shit back. Everything that you didn't put us through? No, we're not doing. What you're talking about, Trey? Memphis.

Or Jai with Memphis. Yeah, but. The Jai thing was cool up until Taylor Jenkins was removed. Taylor was removed. Formasi Salo had taken a brought-on assistant, chips to the offense, Jai was not fucking with the offense, got spending for a game this season.

That's when the shit got sour, right? I ain't talking about that. This is what I'm saying. The totality of everything that this young man has done over the last three years, right? That handicapped our organization because of his behavior in antics, right? Because you don't got no say-so or no control. You're going to do.

We're going to do what we want to do with you. To his point. So we won't back back. We won't. I don't care. And he has put us on a pedestal globally. And he has to get us in the seat. And we know that if he's on board, he can turn this thing around as he was trying to after he got injured.

After the soldier injury, he came back, he was ready to do right. Was it? Yes. They locked them up putting pistols up. But he was bawling. Regardless. But he was bawling. But everybody does it.

The coach. Yeah, that's fine. But he's, everybody else ain't got caught with a pistol in public twice. Like, y'all act like this shit didn't happen. Yeah, but it was forgiven. So it's a fact. It wasn't forgiven.

It was forgiven. No, it wasn't. Yes, it was. By who? By their organization. No, it wasn't. They didn't trade them. It wasn't forgiven.

They could have got rid of him right then and there. No, they couldn't have what they would. What you mean? They could have got rid of the man. It wasn't forgiven. There are. He's under contracts. He's under contracts.

We expect to come play basketball. He's not forgiven. Regardless of all that. There are assets in Miami. There are assets in Miami that can be traded for John Morant. That can be equivalent to the same thing. If you want to get off an asset and stop devaluing this asset so it's not a tradable piece. Do you think they care?

Who? Memphis. I think the problem is... Do you think they care? I don't think they care. Everyone thinks general manager smart. Yes. Because of what Atlanta did.

Yes. Doesn't mean everyone, every one is just as stupid as Atlanta was. If we look at their history, we can say they're not that smart over there either, right? So you would hope Memphis is that dumb to say, all right, we can give you back this and this. And they're like, all right, we'll give you a job. Yeah, I mean, you will hope they're that dumb too. Yeah, but they're not. But they not.

Because who's in place of them. They're not that dumb. There's some ones that they're just. job, how they got their job, has nothing to do with basketball. Pat ain't that dumb. Right? Pat's not that dumb to move assets for Job Moran. No, no, he will move assets for John Moran if he wants him.

Pat is the only person that don't care about who you think you are. Yeah, okay. Right? Remember, we are talking about the man who brought in this crew. Yes. Shack. Yes. Gary Paying, Antoine, Antoine,

James. And won with him. And one with him. Right. Like chocolate, like he put that group together. A barber shop. Along with the guy that cared that motherfucking team and goddamn Dwayne Wade. Let's not do that, man.

But I'm just saying, too. Did he drive Dwayne Wade too? Yeah, but I'm saying, if you got that as a group of the surrounding, I'm pretty sure you can have anybody. He can put, he can put Zaya. He can put them all together. Shack was a vet. All them dudes were fed.

They liked the party, but they had a name for themselves. I'm sure he'll figure it out. Don't nobody in Miami fit that criteria right now to put around John Moran. Don't nobody fit. Everybody you named, don't nobody fit none of that criteria. None of those guys in the league. He can use him like Duane Wade right now. He could.

He needs that excitement. He is Duane Wade going to Miami right now. In that regard, I hear you, yes. In that regard, I hear you, yes. I do I'm with superstardom fan

all of those things absolutely 100%. What are you saying yes to? The fuck I just said words came out of my mouth, niggins? No what I'm saying? I didn't hear it.

What was you saying yes to? The fan favorite guy that put bodies in the seeds all it? 100%. The shit that I just said. Yes. But there's still more

to this puzzle than just that is what I'm saying. With him. That's all. And will Pat overlook that I don't know? I'm saying? Could he? Yes. But is he willing to put up with everything that comes with it?

Okay. We don't know that. Okay, Pat. We don't know. Who else wants to come to Miami that's a John Morant-like superstar? Over the land win. Just this year? Right now.

Same today. Starting today. I don't know if the kid want to go there or not. I ain't heard him say it. Like I said, the other day, when the shit came about trade after josiah said that's what trade wanted to go i said okay cool until i to the shit happens and there he goes man i don't care about the reports dog like i don't give a fuck i say this time in time new jersey he's going okay okay okay so if he end up in miami

i will say cool because pat's like all right we have a chance to get a job of rant yeah for a tyler hero he's had a chance to get a home out of band out over you That's too much. There's too much, them two? Together? Yeah. Why? I still got Khalil.

I still got Norman Powell. I still got future picks. Yeah, but I ain't given them both, though. What? To make it. That's even better. We don't have to. You don't have to.

But if we could choose one of the other, which one you're letting go? You can't go with Benk because you got JJJ, but they're trying to get rid of J.J. Anyway. So it could make sense, but then you got Eady. It's a passive. package deal to me. I'm saying you can go Vasquez, you could throw one of the other little pieces in.

But Miami being a destination that makes the most sense right now out of all the teams, like he just said, Minnesota, where Aunt and Jai, what? It makes no sense. Any of them other teams don't make, this is the perfect situation, even for his rebranding, even getting around somebody like Pat Riley to talk to him and say, listen, strip club at your house only. So let me ask you. You don't have to go out, bro. We'll help. You order them to the crib. They're not doing it. Ain't no outside shit for you. There's no outside. The history has proven though.

When you come to Miami, you get booed up, you find your booed up, you go lay up, and you go do your thing. And you have to because those are requirements. Don't be outside, don't be doing this, this or this. Tyler Hero got booed up, bam booed up. Shade, Duane Wade, 2010, that's when he found his boo. Shit, after that was his best year. Led the league in scoring. Boot up.

happens in Miami where you actually adapt to the culture of becoming a guy that's not outside, you adapt to being in the gym, and focused on that shit. And with Jai, maybe they change that shit. Maybe they actually give him a little bit of leeway on the leash and be like, look, if you're going to be a job that we need you to be, we can sound crazy. We're going to be the job we need you to be. He can have a chocolate chip cookies on the point. You can have some chocolate chip cookies.

We're not going to make that mistake again. So you want to give a nigger a league again. Because Jimmy was the other mistake. Yeah, we're learning now. We're adapting. Yeah, I know. But I'm saying. But I'm saying.

Okay. I like it. And Jimmy not Jai. Jai is different. Especially when you look at Miami's brand. Like, ain't no players been there with shoe contracts and being, you know, commercials and shit. Yeah. Man, this can be a monumental move for the Miami.

It could. You know, it's just about giant. The one that makes sense for Memphis is probably looking at Brooklyn. Because him in Brooklyn helps his brand. Brooklyn the way they are, they're going to have picks, they got young talent that they can give up and that plays to both of them. I mean, that will be, if I'm them, I would be looking at Brooklyn side. I like Brooklyn.

Is it a package deal then? Motown team trade? No, no. So what happens with with? They don't have to be. The way they work now is... I'm with Brooklyn. Owners and organizations don't understand the power they have if they just shut the fuck up.

Because once he says he wants to go, the people who are buying the product don't need to pay top dollar no more. Because I know he don't want to be there. You open shopping them. Meaning when you don't trade him, he has an attitude. Now he don't want to play for you. Right? Now he got ankle injuries and all this stuff. So now you're forced to give him. Now because you have to give him, I can give you pennies on a dollar.

Yeah. That's what ends up happening. Yeah. Instead of just behind the scenes, secretly labbing it, like you don't want to leave, you know, what you're going to give me for, quiet. You get bigger bucks for it versus you publicly putting them out there. Time you open to trade them. Now we just sit back and just say you're going to get desperate at the end of the clock. So what we already thought?

On the 25th hour. We knew this was the right was on the wall, like Shard said, the right was on the wall with this situation. It was just on that matter of a time. It was on a matter of time. It's been going down, but it's only a matter of time. Tell me what the reason is for a team to actually publicly make this statement if they could be behind the scenes doing that. What benefit does it have for us to say we want to openly trade X, Y, Z? And then if we don't trade them to the team he wants to go to or we're not looking in that direction, He's looking crazy.

He's looking like this. I remember when Antoine got traded. We were playing pool. And he was like, man, I just got trade. He had no fucking idea about certain trades that was going down. So it was just like, it wasn't a I'm liking here or don't like. It's like, I got to go now. So if you're doing it publicly, you're kind of thinking like how KD were like,

man, I know you niggas want to get off of me now. And it's like, man, this kind of weird. Like now I'm being scapegoated. Now I feel some type of way. What's the reason behind doing that? Just the last, just do it, bro. Like you see one? It's been going on.

So we're before this new social media wave of everybody's and everybody's fucking business decided that we live in, right? Things just happened. They made a couple phone calls. They had relationships with certain beat writers and certain people before tweet and before X, before. All these three and all you can just get right on there and like you it's these people in positions These gyms these presidents these people that's in these meetings that they're talking about these trades

As this shit is going on you got a motherfucker over in the back texting shams like Hey they think a thing about sending Jada to Miami. I judge the talks that's the shit that's going on man and the shit is sad that in these businessmen these meetings because they are business meetings technically, that you got people leaking information. That's all that shit is. You got one person in there that has a... These reports are... You got everybody, everybody from the agents

to the front office, whatever, everybody has access and they're going to push whatever story and narrative. But the agents ain't even privy to these conversations. That's my thing. But the agents... Until it's about to go down and then they hit the agent and be like, hey, we got a deal on the table for Gil. This is what we're thinking.

Then the agent finds out unless Gil go to his agent, be like, hey, man, go to the motherfucker, tell him, hey, man, I want out. Yeah. Right? And then the agent can go to the media be like, hey, man, Gil won't out of Washington or Gil won't out of here. Then that's the part that happened then. But now it says it's in real fucking time. Those trade rumors. Yeah, like in real time.

Those are the trade rumors that used to happen. It used to just be rumors. But now you got a guy like Shams that's gotten the rumors from the lingering text motherfuckers. It's like, oh, I heard some shit. going on over there. Let's go verify this. But the thing about it, you know it's only coming from a select or a certain amount of people, right? To have that knowledge. Whenever you hear these things reporting, you can usually read between the lines to see what side is coming from, right? But wouldn't you rather have that then just for finding out that I just got traded?

No. Well, I like surprises, so. So like, I rather know that as rumors instead of just going, playing pool, and then I just got traded. Well, that's the way the business used to be. Yeah, but don't need to be like that. So you think the better, I know. I mean, I like it. I like it like this now. I want to know. Instead of just finding out. Why, you want to know, ask somebody acting. But what about the teams are there? Oh, so, okay. If the team is having rumors about, yeah, I want to know. When did they put that rumor out?

I think last week was like the first. Last week, how many games? Yeah. You got to remember when they're trying to trade your ass, I mean, you got to walk in that lock. That's what you're talking about. I know. The villain of knowing you're about to be trained. Think about, right. Right. Like, you know want to get out of me, unless you want to leave. You're a star player. That's one thing. And you know this team right now don't want to. And you want to be there.

And now you got to go out there and play. You ain't playing hard. That's fine. But I'm still playing. You ain't going to do. At the end of the day, you're just, I'm still playing. I got to be that's not fine. I'm not fine to go out and not play hard.

So then you're straight and then I'm more fucked up mentally because now I got to move my whole family and go somewhere else. That's the business. Like no, that's bullshit. Let me know now so I can start getting prepared. Nick, you're rich. You're being rich. You can tell me to move right now.

I'm gone. I'm going about being wrist. I'm going on. I'm going. what it is too. So if I can hear some rumors, I'm cool with that. Dead man. Don't just have me out here taking my kids to school. Oh, bro, you know you just got you know you got traded. The fuck it. Hey, that's the Drew Holiday. Now I'm all, Drew Holiday. That's the Drew Holiday. Okay, let's try. I'm just saying I'd rather I'd rather

know now than all that back in the day. So imagine here in all this year, right, I'm gonna let you go. Matter here in all that shit, right? Mm-hmm. Team trying to get rid of you, get rid of you for three months. And they don't get rid of you didn't what? Do you stuck my nigger? That's fine. I'm bullshit, B. But listen, I still have an opportunity to change it. Now, it's either I'm a, I'm a play. It ain't you.

And we're going to win or is they just throw a traitor? Long as I know that if it's a rumor, so now I have the opportunity to change it. Yeah. It's the monster he's talking about. He's saying, he's saying now I can actually lock back in. I have the choice to lock back in despite the fact that they want to get off of me. But what if you imagine you never checked out? Matt of you was all in 100% busting your ass every time you play,

giving 110% every single night and they still try to trade your ass That's fine It doesn't matter You're going out that motherfucker But you know that's a part of the business We know that's a part of the business But I know the rumor

I like both sides of it though I like I like what he said I like what you said So now in the gym try to come with me Oh bro you're going to be here Yeah all right Yeah that fake shit Yeah that's the fake shit

Yeah now I know No I know What you got to do all that You want to know two weeks before You want to know three weeks before As soon as I hear the rumor, you're not going to want to take your kids to school because you're going to be in your film. You're going to feel something. But that's what he's saying.

You're going to feel something. It depends on who you are. If your feelings is weak, you'll we're weak. We all going to feel something. If we're locked in, if we're locked in, now you're thinking about that's fine. Because you know you're going to leave. So now you don't want to hear your kids to leave. Now you're not going into the gym no more doing what you're doing because you don't want to be there because they don't want you there.

So now you're preparing your family to leave. Now they're all affected. And now imagine if it don't happen. Now imagine it don't happen. Or you're going to say, yeah, man, you're trying to trade me. Yeah, watch this. I'm going to show them what.

Yeah, I've seen a lot of people. Hey, I mean, I'm just saying. Show them. I get what you're saying. But show them what. Long as I know. Right now, hey, look what you're about to trade. But show them what?

You're about the trade. Don't care, obviously. That's fine. If that's, if you're on the block, they don't care. What you're showing them? Yeah, that's why. What are you showing them?

What are you showing them? I'm saying it or not. Change what? They want to trade me because of what? We probably suck or no. Or I'm not performing. I'm not performing. What if you are performing?

What if you are performing? What if you are performing? And we win it. Because you're an asset because they can. Why would you trade? Because you're property. That's retarded. You think, okay.

Because you're probably. They only want to trade job and rip because they're not winning and they're if they were winning, we wouldn't be even talking about trading. No. We wouldn't be talking about nothing about a trade. If he was winning, they wouldn't be talking about trading nothing. He would be bull. Boom, bombing all that.

Nobody would be saying nothing. Because he's losing. Now it's... Mr. B. I also talk about the availability aspect. In the last four and a half season, I think jobs only played like 50% of the games through suspension through the end. And if he's available, if he's available and win it,

they're not having this conversation. I think people really believe that every team wants to win something. There's only five teams in the NBA that wants to win championships. There's about, what, 15 teams, their whole goal is to make it to the play. That's where they make their money. Then there's 10 teams. They don't give a shit because they make their money no matter what. Okay.

So you can win all your money. He said, why did they trade because I'm winning? Hey, I don't care how to want you. You made me my money. You became a great asset. Like Michael Porter, right? He became a great asset that I can give up to get youth. He's not a superstar.

It don't matter. He's playing like a all-star. Name a superstar. I can get rid of this guy. He's playing so well. He got attractive. Name a superstar. You can say, you became a, you become a diet.

Yeah, you can say Luca. Yeah. You can say Luca. They said he was a fat, no defensive playing, alcohol. They were winning too. And just traded it. They went to the finals. After going to the finals.

And think about, this is a full circle conversation now. Because the Luca situation fits perfectly with both sides. Luca didn't know he was being traded. He didn't get the warning. He was fucking hurt. Look what happened. Look what happened. But remember what you said.

He didn't have the leniency to go back in and show them what you're getting rid of because he was hurt. They traded him when he was hurt. So what B is saying is give me the time beforehand. So maybe I get back in the gym and show y'all I'm really working, whatever it is, even increasing my trade value on the block while I'm on the block, just knowing. Is that how big this work though? Wait, wait, wait, you're talking about it. So last year, if I'm not mistaken, didn't the Phoenix Suns tried to trade Kevin Durant during the season?

and did he still ball was he playing well or not Kevin Durrins he stayed he stayed the course I think they were both working on his 26 didn't go up or down no matter what right but I think he was knowledgeable about the trade situation but he still went out of place that I'm good he was knowledgeable yeah he's different right he's gonna do put his 26 up no matter what the fucking situation is

but B's talking about what if KD goes out and starts giving you 30 what difference does it make They maybe start winning that. They still tried to trade and they got rid of him after the season. But this is what he's saying. He's saying if you're telling KD, we're going to get rid of you and he increased his production. It doesn't matter.

And they start winning. Do they still train him when they think twice? Or do they be like, well, hey, we might have a. That's why a scapegoated him. Well, who was down? What is the reason? The reason he got a skateboarder because Bradley Bill was down. Are you not looking at the business of the basketball?

For sure. I might not want you. I might not want you to win because I'm trying. trying to get draft picks. I'm trying to get my draft picks and I'm trying to get your draft picks. Why do I want you to come in here and win for me? Because you brought me here. You brought me here to win.

I brought you there then. Right now, I'm in rebuilding. I'm Memphis. I want to rebuild. We change our mind. So I don't want you to come in here and win games. You just be in you going to win more games than I want. Yes.

Same thing. That's what happened with Kevin Porter right now. I mean, yeah, KCP, or, Michael, Michael, Michael. He's going to win games that they don't want to win. You talking about for Brooklyn? Yeah. So I need to get rid of him.

Thank you. I appreciate you. You got me some more picks. You got this because somebody needs you. Yeah. And you're going to give me some picks. We get the lose and we get the top five pick. He's not a building piece.

We might get six to 11. I don't want to average in 30 is not. Right. So, and that's what happens. Especially with this draft coming up. John Wall in Houston. Yes, exactly. John Wall and Houston.

Wanted to play. Wanted to play. They said, yeah, we don't want you to come in because you're going to win more games than we want. Just stay home, we're going to pay you. Come be a mentor. Right? So them losing, look at the draft picks they had got from it.

They told them, hey, listen, you have damn their average in 2011. They got a lot of shit. We don't want that. That was Ango Jabari. Yeah, we don't want you to come in here and start winning. Just sit home, take your money. So last question for all you before we move on. Do you still believe Jai can be a superstar in the world?

league. Me, he's a superstar. He's already a superstar. He's a super. But game matching that. Oh, you mean the game part of it? Game matching that superstar. I mean, long as he's... High-selling shoes, all that good stuff. As long as he's healthy

and he's out there playing, his game is his game. He's going to go out there do things that makes people forget some of the things he has done. So, you know, him, he just got to get on the court. That's all. all. Let the game speaks for itself. I think the change of environment, right organization, I think he can, he still average

19 right now, though. Like he average of 19. In a very down year. In a down year where the offense has been changed, taking the ball out of his hands and limited minutes in average 19. So I would say yes. Rashad, do you think Jock still be a superstar in this look? There's been a lot of conversation around this, given the last four years, his availability, whether or not he is injury prone or not. But he did give us glimpses.

I think he had 44. He had a 40 point game recently that showed the old job. I think, like I can you said, a new scenery could definitely revitalize him. It's just about the system. Now it's the system. Now is, are you a Spoh guy? Or wherever you go,

are you the coaches type of system player? Now it's not about like, I think Luke is probably the only rare exception, maybe Trey, where they both going to go to situations where they're going to have to adapt around them based on how comfortable they're playing. But I don't know if Jai moves the lever in that aspect when it comes to how Memphis played and how he played based on if he go to any other team, the way he play going to help them win. They're going to have to. If you get Jai Moran, you have to put skill set around what he does, just like they have to do it with Lerner. They're going to have to do with trade. Any ball dominant guy that plays now, and that's effective.

He's averaged, what, 27, 28 in his league before? So you got to put pieces around that. You can't make him fit a system. So here's a question. He's going to average, he's going to, in order for what we're saying, he's going to have to average more than 19. They play a system right now with him in Memphis. He's averaging 19.

That's not, for what he does, he needs to be able to get up and down the floor, fast place play free. So here's the question I asked that some people are asking to what is it that he does? What's his game right now? Now not just as far as the lecture.

Yeah, I don't, I don't know that. Because Zion gives us that too. People in the seat. We say, like what is it about his game? Like, we know Luca got to step back. Luca could do this. Like, what is Jaws game? Put ass in the seat.

Acrobacks put ass in the seat. Like he, him and Zion are to say They put the out of you does, like when if you really layups and all that shit his body, like,

hey, yeah, them three-sifted lay-ups. What I'm saying is, the miss dumps and, like I'm saying, it's like, it's like, it's like,

for sure. People come to see. But I'm saying the, the time that we have to wait for you to give us that, you're not going to give us that every possession. But it's worth it, though, right?

It might be won a game. Might be once a game. So it might be. It definitely was. It definitely was. I'm not saying it's not worth it. I'm saying, if you're,

you don't know what he does as a player outside of the highlights. And you're only giving me two highlights the game. That's four points. It's my, yeah. Is my, is my, four points. Yeah, that's, is my fans happy? I don't know. I don't know if I got to meet it.

Two highlights the game. I got the number one. And you got kids in the building selling jerseys in that motherfucker. They're happy, though. That's a lot. Yeah, that's a lot. So is Miami the place he wants to go if we want to win? That's what I have.

I said. What the winning all of them? time. Ah, damn. I think because Pat Riley win. It's the

class, the class will be we want to win. We don't want just too high. If he goes there, can he do both? That's what I'm saying.

If he goes to Miami, both things can't exist. He'll teach him out to be a win. Both things can't exist in Miami. Yes. I just want to know where the game is. You go somewhere else.

It's about putting asses in the seats. That's what I think. But this game is a floater game. Get to the lane game. Like, it's the system

that has to accommodate that. And if his game is come off picking rows and shoot threes when they sagging off you and clogging the lane. And use them like DeWay. That's what I'm thinking. Use them like D. Wade. But you got to put pieces around. But you got it like he's saying. You got to put Shane Baddey. You got to put

Ray Allen out there. You got to put guys that Mike Miller out there. You got to put guys that make shots. We're basketball players and we're taught to want to win. Yes. And people don't understand what I'm saying is what 25 other

teams think. there's a reason your favorite team don't get nowhere every year after every year after every year after every year after every year after every year Nick spend the most money

a year after year after year ain't won no championship you know why because the New York market with a superstar or no superstar when they open them doors ching ching period it don't matter

The New York fan base is going to buy the product no matter what. That's a team that don't have to win a championship, and they're going to keep Scott. What was the last time to win a championship? What is their value? They ain't won since the 70s. If they try to sell that team right now, it would be number one. Right now they're number two because they haven't been to the open market.

They haven't won. But the Lakers selling for $10 billion now. You see what I'm saying? No championship. So if you're, they're a businessman. No. These ain't basketball fans, man Then that's been a knock on Dolan for the long

So since we know that there's only five teams That want to win it And the owners are only for the money I should be able to know when the fuck you want to trade me Why are you still on that shit? Yes, yes, I'm still on that shit All right, well If I know that I'm just out here

Then the game of basketball It's not meant to be one Since I've been going to my whole life Trying to win basketball games We get to this motherfucker and I know, hey man Just play your best And we're just trying to win So let me know too when you want to trade.

Right, so let me ask you, brother. So I hear you. Because you're in a fucked up position. I hear you being with that. So damn the rumor, you want them to come and tell you directly. No, if the room, no, I like the rumors. No, I don't mind. You can tell me if the rumors are true.

I was taught to win the game. So now that I'm taught to just go out here and just perform and put some numbers up, then let me know when you want to trade me too. Like tell me beforehand before you tell them. Now when I hear it out there, now when I hear it out there, now when I hear it out there, I'm prepared for it. It's cool. I get it, though, because it's,

He's, it's the connection, even though we say put your feelings in your pocket, right? Good luck. He's saying, listen, I don't want to walk in here feeling like I don't, they don't want me here. I don't want to walk in the locker room feeling like we don't want to snigger here. We don't want you here, bro. So you want to know that? If you're telling me, I get to walk in here with my attitude now. I get to walk in here with my attitude like, are y'all don't want me here?

No, no, I mean, I can definitely feel because they'll be rumors, but that's just like me. That's like me renewing my contract with Underdog. And then, you know, at the end, they just would like, oh, yeah, we're just going to catch it. And it's just like, well, why you ain't tell me earlier? Why you ain't, I ain't hear no rumors, no, nothing. I'm getting prepared. And then next to you know, it's just like, yeah, we're just going to move on. Can I ask you a question?

Can I answer your question? Yeah, I'm here to host, but yes. You know what? Chat, chat. I mean, that's fine. I mean, you don't have to. That's just how I want to ask. No, no, I want to ask the chat.

I would like you to be asked for. All right. Hey, chat. If you was the owner, you got these two right here. Would you warn them two weeks in advance you getting ready to trade them? Or are you going to wait to their asses as home and then tell their asses, we traded you. Say the fuck over there. Don't come in.

Don't come in. Don't come in. Don't come in. The code change, everything. I got one foot. You know, I got one foot. I ain't saying it's the same. I ain't saying that it was the thing.

But, hey, so my last show and I got cut from Milwaukee, right? I was just at the practice facility, nigga, I went to my PT and all that shit. I'm on the table, getting stretched and get my work done after the fact of the phone. I get a text from Jake here, like, we need to talk. I tell the later that, yeah, that ain't good.

I picked the phone up, I'm with it on speaker. I told you, they're going to cut me, right? She's like, no, you don't know that. Yeah, I can't know that. I'm like, damn, I was just at the practice facility. Y'all can tell me that then. Hell hell hell Hell

Hell Yeah Where CP got your Where did that CP go In Atlanta Hey CP we're going to have to let Go We don't need to go

We don't want you on the trip back You're not coming on a trip back I still got shit now Hey bro Some people We're shipping to them We're going to ship it We're shipping to you

No no We got you We got to comfort Hey Stephen Jackson As soon as they got out the play We're going to let you go Yeah There's third people

We got to wait to you away from everything Let's keep this thing moving. A few pieces of 50 before we move on. We asked the chat. Is it time for John to move on for Memphis? 94% of the chat said yes. We also asked the chat.

Is Miami the best destination for John Morant? 58% of the chat says no, 42% yes. And then Gil, you asked the chat, would you tell a player you want to trade him? 55% of the chat said no. Getting also some feedback directly from people in the chat saying, hell no, a lot of N-words. Thank you for not.

putting the eye in there, just NGA. Imagine going up to the key. Hey, so, uh, to, uh, we're saying tomorrow. Hey, uh, we're going to George Carl.

Hey, Nick, we're going to let you go. Hey, nigga, actually, Nick, I was going to that motherfucker every single day wishing they will come up to be like, hey, man, we're sending you to, Nick, I was going that motherfucker daily wishing and praying. Looking for it.

Hey, looking for the trade, nigga. Hey, yeah. Hey, I'm ready to choke you on my last day. Absolutely, nigga. Hey, choke you on the way. I'm going to choke one of you, my man, man. Absolutely. No, hey, Rich, hey, they brought me in the office.

They was getting ready to cut Ruben Patterson, so I wouldn't show out. Because I know he could help us, right? They did that shit like two times. When have you known them to bring a motherfucker in when they get ready to release somebody? That's funny. Hey, I went that more, yeah, we're going to bring Ken, so we know this won't be an issue this year. because I'll act of a fool-ass shit in that motherfucker.

They got rid of Draper. But, like, listen, dog, hey, show my whole ass in there. Remember that. And Ruben, you know, locker made all that. I didn't nobody sitting next to me. If you didn't go to Cincinnati, you couldn't set into locker next to me. There was only two lockers right there. If you didn't go to UC, DeMars sat there and motherfucking Rubin sat there.

Other than that, that locker was empty for seven years. I made them pull out a porta pot, the little cubicle. Yeah, y'all, I can't nobody sit there, dog. So you made, so they got an open locker, you made them bring some other shit? Yeah. Yeah, we're going to wait till you sleep. We're going to wait to you sleep before we tell you you get trained. Go send me a text.

See, that they got a text message. Email, we got a email him. Hey, they were to told my sister. Hey, they would have called me. Hey, Ken, you ain't check your spam? Check your spam, nigga. We sent it. We sent it, for sure.

They were to call Brad my sister. At the time, they would have called Brad, like, uh, Yeah, I need you to tell Kenyon that we no longer need his services. But Kenyon, thank you for letting me and Rashall. I said next to you. He didn't go to UC, went to UNC, and I went to UC, L.A., so close enough. But let's keep this thing moving to the next show. There's enough space over here, though.

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Wolves are back on the prow after winning six of their last eight games, including their second straight win over the Spurs this season on Sunday. Let's take a look at some of those highlights if we can please. So San Antonio was in control for the first three quarters, Starting the game up 16-0 while leading by as much as 19 and by 14 heading into the fourth quarter. Wimby paced his spurs with 29.7 rebounds and three steals and 27 minutes of action in his return to the starting lineup. Julius Randall had 15 and 8 boards for the wolves, but came up big on the defensive end after getting tasked with guarding Wemby midway through the fourth quarter. Dante DiVinso had 19 points, nine boards, and seven dives.

He was five and seven from deep in the second half. Nas Reid added 17 and 11 boards off the bench. Anthony Edwards finished with a team high 23 points including some of the biggest buckets of the game with the wolves down one late Ant Man. Win at Wimby, driving in the basket hitting the go-ahead floater off the glass with a little over 16 seconds remaining. Spurs had one last chance

to get the win, but Randall came through with the defensive stop right here on Wimby's fadeaway. Oh, look at him. Big body. Wimby, Mr. Shops, got the rebound. DeAaron Fox had one last chance. We're three to win it. Off the back rim. Minnesota outscores San Antonio 3318 in the final frame to get the win after the game. Ant Man talked about going head to head with the alien for the game winning bucket.

I was thinking. You see me? I was like, I got the shot. Do you drive them? I was confused. How long? I ain't ever... Yeah, I was making a lot.

I'm like, shit, I'm going to throw that bitch of Jew, huh? I don't know what to do right now because he's so tall, bro. Oh, man. He takes away everything. He takes away the layup, jump shot, and he got good feet. He can move. So, yeah, he, uh, yeah, he's a wonderful kind. You think he surprised him, but he could play driving.

Yeah, for sure. I felt like he thought I was going to take a jump shot for sure, and he probably would block that shit. I had to drive him. He's talking to his homeboy. Yo, you gotta love this young nigga, though. You do, man. You have to love him, dog.

We have to love this young guy. You have to love him because he's talking to us. No tattoo. Be yourself, man. The NIC are talking to us, man. The YNBA? Like, yeah, hell of the sense, man. Wyin or something?

Like, we asked about it. But so candid, so honest, I mean, obviously. Yeah, you got to love it. But you really have to appreciate that. That's what I would want in the face of the league. Somebody who's always going to keep it real. But at 24 and 16, wolves are now holding down the fourth spot in the West. Off to the fourth best start in franchise history through 40 games.

16 and 6 in their last 22 games. We've seen the wolves come on strong now. They've righted the ship, figured things out, got Ant Man as a viable MVP option candidate. How realistic is this Wolf Squad making their third straight Western Conference Finals? No, you said this was the best records. I saw that stat. Through 40 games.

Through 40 games. But fourth best. It just let you know. It's been troubling times in Minnesota throughout the franchises history. Fourth best start, though. Is the fourth best start? Fourth best. In their history?

In the history of the Minnesota? Being fourth place? Huh? Being fourth? I mean, it's a very gritty, tough Western? Can I ask you why that's... No, my. Go ahead.

I would just... I'm just giving you guys some perspective on life. We don't need to... I appreciate it. Former Minnesota. A lot of work. A lot of work you put in there. I can see if you say it's the first,

like they best starred in 40 games, but fourth best. Like, who gives the fuck about fourth best? Okay. You know? Minnesotians. Loves to get in the Bronx. There's some shit going down in Minnesota.

They're riot. They're riot. When I have somebody said, yeah, fourth best is, no. That's almost a brother. Almost on the counts of horseshoes and hands. Then they're going to be good, make it to their. John Morin. Do you think, so, Timber Wolves have reached back-to-back west or conference finals.

Do you think that Ant Man in this supporting cast of a roster have enough to make it three straight? Fourth in the West right now. And who did they get this year this summer? They got the opportunity to strengthen their team. They got Anthony Edwards. They go out there and try to go to the Western Conference Files for the Thursday time. Anthony Edwards over there.

I can't watch it. Julius Rand, Jordan. All summer. They got Bone Highland. They did get Bones Highland. A friend of the show, well respected in Hooper's Circle. It's all matchups, right? I mean, that's really what the playoffs is about,

who you match up with, you know, first round, second round. So, you know, if they match up with the Lakers, I'm pretty sure that they're going to be excited. And it plays to their face. So it's all about matches, but you know, do they have a team? Yes, right? They have enough they have enough talent to They have enough talent to go to the championship. It's just all matters on that road, right? You know, it's just about that road when you get there, right? You know, how easy it, you know, is it for you against the I look at it like this like who does the better players have to guard in their first couple rounds? right it all depends on like are they going to be worn out like it could be an easy first game

but his matchup average is 33 now he's being push of the limits and he's kind of tired for round two right so it all it all depends on stuff like that too so we got as long as we got rudy go bear we got a chance and tell you that four times you go fairer once we got that frenchman back there holding down the fort got a 10 hey I'm I'm messing I'm liking Rudy now just saying Single Rudy, man, it's different. Remember he left the team for the chick. He left the chick for the team now. Man, yeah, it's wee-wee.

He might get defensive player in a football. He might get defensive player every year this thing. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. He has to refocus. But no, man, as long as you have Anthony Edwards, you have a chance. I think Minnesota, I think they're top ten in offense and defense. They are.

I think one of the five teams that are top ten in the offense. Yeah, they're top ten. Devincials. McDaniels, Knazery, coming off the bench, a great score. They kind of lack a little bit of scoring on the bench, but I think long as you got, like I said, Anthony Edwards and their defensive presence, they'll be all right. They'll be fine. Well, I mean, I'm a double down on the fact that, you know, being top 10, defense is one thing, overcoming a 19-point deficit against a good team like the Spurs, who's been struggling

against good defensive teams, finding identity. I think the main thing, And the glaring thing about this game, particularly was Julius Randall taking the initiative to Gar Wemby and to shut him out for that last three minutes. I think before you didn't see that, him taking it personal. Anthony Edwards has always been the guy that's tried to figure out how the game is going to move for him. But now it's like, he's like, look, first three quarters, let's do whatever we need to do to keep the game close.

Fourth quarter, give me that bitch. Let me get that motherfucker. Let me do what I do in the fourth. And I think this is the first year he's really feeling like that. And I think getting his game to a point where he's respecting the midi, he was respecting the post-up, he's respecting the half-spin. He's respecting a lot of the shit that we see the great two guards do. And he's embracing it.

And I think if you can get Devin-Cinzo on Bones, Highland to tap in, Nas Reid to up his production. You know, keep Rudy doing what he's doing. He can get back there. To answer your question, Joe, yes, I think they have what it takes to get back to the Western Conference Finals. To Gil's point, it depends on matchups. Yeah, they stay at four, see who finished five or five. Whatever their matchup is in the first round, I think, will tell us more then.

But yeah, I think Anthony Edwards is coming into his own even more completing his game, not just being a three-point shooter in at the rim. He's doing a lot more. Who's guard, who you say took on the challenge? Guineby? So Rudy Gobert, I think, picked up a tech in a foul. Winby hit four free throws. Mike andori, Chris Finch wasn't familiar one.

I'm just breaking it down for you. I don't need all that. Put Julius Randall on to Winby. I give you contact. I don't need all the contacts. This is great A hostie. I don't know why. I don't get this hosting anywhere.

I would never in my life put Rudy Goldberg on the Wemby. But I was cooking him since he was. 16 years old. Exactly. We know this thing. What is he? I don't even know where he's getting at. We know what he's going.

Don't bring this big old flat foot nigga out here on me. All of those things. But as the, what, four-time defensive player of the year? Here's a four-time defensive player. Wouldn't you, I would expect a hope that I would want to take that challenge.

Where does hope work? We know what hope work. You know where she worked. I think Randolph Gardner was better, though, because it was more physical. As you saw, he was like. And he's no. to the ground, he's moving his feet.

He was more like, it was a tougher side. I know that. It was between the freshmen. He's going to be. As the four-time defensive player of the year, taking the challenge is what I'm saying. No, he takes the challenge. He works the same place, Hope worked.

Because when Wimby out there, he's shaking ass. Yeah, I've been seeing it. And Coach over-over-over-oad that shit so quickly, you say, listen, this, Rudy. I understand. This confidence is your sky-h against you, man. I understand. You saw the YouTube clip.

You need to sit this one out. You're going to sit this one out. We're going to let him do it. He would have hit a step-back game thing. But, you know, like, if you, no matter what someone's resume is, if you have the confidence over there, there's nothing that person can do. They, they see lunchmen.

You can be all defensive world. As soon as you've seen him walk over there to your face. Yeah. Give me the ball. Give it to me. That shit, it just, well. Yeah. Yeah.

Wimmy was over for in the fourth quarter just on that out there. He got no love for Rudy Goh. And the Minnesota was. He only got four shots in the fourth. Yeah. Did hit four three doors? That's the problem. Four cross.

One of them was the end. Julius ran into all that physical. They get a little fatigue. Wasn't in no rhythm. So. Yeah, they keep so. They still got them on that sub minutes restrictions getting the fourth. So he wasn't in the game with three minutes left and then they subbed them in with two minutes left.

left. Started for the fourth time since coming back from the injury. Timberwell or Spurs them with our own issues. We're going to touch on them tomorrow. So is it, is it safe to say that Rudy Gobert can't guard fives?

No, it's not safe. He's just good at help side defense. He's a four-time defensive player here. For a reason. Right? That's a, he's a, he's more of a health side defensive player. He's a hellbar. He's a health side defensive player in year.

No, that's not the true. That's not true. Only a couple guys got his number in the league. What's that? Joker, BN1, and NB, maybe two. Everybody else ain't. Wimby is not a five. He's not a five.

He's a two guard and seven foot four body. Any five, man, that can score. Yeah. Yeah. You go bare guys hands and paws on everybody else. Y'all get that shit up out of here. Turn that bitch the other way. He's a great help side.

He's a great help side defense. That's what his specialty is. He's a great help side of him. Because I'm hard on him. Nice. Well, he's a four-time defensive player of the year, so I think that comes with certain expectations. Fault times.

Damn. Four. Four. Four. Four. Four. Four. About to be fifth.

Like Ben Wallace, like Ben Wallace, on balled defense, 75. So up par. Off ball? Ninety-nine. 99. 99?

Hells of 99. Yeah. Passing. 99. or back then where they were, so it was... He wasn't tall enough, so they were doing the hook, but off the ball, Helpside, he cleaned everything up.

Jump-hooking the shit out of the house. Oh, yeah, you can't jump-hook the shit out. Hey, I'm jumping the shit out of Ben Wallace's in death. So this... Turn to get him all that. A little love and men are one of our favorite players here in Gills Reina, presented by underdog Woot-WWW. Putting together another impressive campaign this season,

averaging a career high, 29 points, along with five rebounds, four assists, on 50-41-79 splits. His field goal on three. point percentage are also career highs. So after the win over the Spurs, Wolves fans showered him with MVP chance. As it stands, Ant Man

currently eighth in the Kia MVP ladder, which updates weekly throughout the season. Does Ant Man deserve more love in the MVP discussion? Good. Yeah, of course. Right? You know, he plays

both sides of the floor. He's getting better. I mean, it's one of those things is it's more of his team's record than it is him, right? So the year his team is one or two, right? You're going to be pushing his name very hard for the MVP can. But, you know, right now, let's just be honest.

The one, two, I mean, you know, obviously, Joker's out. They're doing different things, right? So, you know, Ant is going to have to come out and just really show the world what he has inside that table. which we know is a lot. This is when there's no taking three quarters then coming in the fourth. As soon as the game start, he's on demon time.

You know, because like we've seen him on the defense. He is a lot. He's literally a lockdown defender. So, you know, he's getting higher and higher in that chant. And, you know, next year to year after, he's going to be in that one, two, three race. What's the top eight?

So I will read the top eight for you, Shard because I know that you were going to ask. Currently, it is Joker, SGA, Jalen Brown, Luca, Wimby. Cade is in sixth, Jalen Brunton, 7th, Anthony Edwards, eighth. So that shit is so crazy because I'm looking at the top eight teams, top four in the east, top four in the West. Joker being third, record-wise. You said two was who, Luca? SGA.

SGA, number one. He's second. Who was three? Jalen Brown. Jalen Brown, third in the east. What are they got Jay Brown up there? Luca. Yeah, he better be.

You don't even talk about the boss. Man. What are you talking about? Yeah, we have been talking about the box. We have been talking. I don't know what. I said the word they. But now that you're back, we will not.

I didn't say y'all. They. We are there. Well, we are they. We're number one's more so. If I'm here, I'm saying. I don't care who talking after us. Y'all, I said they.

So Lucas, Lucas, fifth. Lucas fourth, Wimby, So Lucas fourth, and they're fifth in the west. Cade Cunningham, six, obviously, Pistons, running the east. And they're running the east. I don't know why he's. Jalen runs in seven. They're number two.

So, I mean, based on what you're saying, Gil, and you talk about record, Anthony Edwards does deserve a lot more, especially playing both sides of the ball like Jalen Brown, and Jalen's third, and has been doing this every single year. That's fine, but the other one got the finals MVP. 100%. And he's a champion, and he's already made it, and he's solidified. I think the record has to be, it has to change. If that is the case, if the record thing actually plays a part,

it don't make no sense because Lucas fifth with the Lakers right now. Wemby's number two with the Spurs right now. SGA's number one. K's number one. He's number one. He should be top. It should be top three. You know, it should go into a certain lever where it makes sense where, all right,

K number one, SGA, Number one, you know, you got Brunson, number two with the Knicks. He's been balling every year. Wait, so he's not even top 10? Who? Where's Brunson? Seven. Seven.

Eight. Eight. And Brunson is what? Eight. And Brunson is what? Seven. Okay. Right.

And you talk about a record is Timberwolves is fourth. Nicks are second. I think, no, Knicks is second in the east, but record wise, Timberwood is the same. It's the same. I think Timberl has got one more win. One more win. One more win. Yep.

26. So if you talk about the wins, it would make sense, too. Case would be higher, though. No, for sure. Yeah, Timber ones are above the Knicks right now. They are fifth best record in the National Basketball. You know, it's still got a... It's still early.

You know, it's like what is your lasting moment of somebody? So you're just going to have to have some of those games where he's standing out. You know, that 55. It has to be some of those just really dunking on somebody, making them fall, like stuff like that, where people are, oh, then you get to look at the numbers. And team wins. If he even comes out and say,

I should be in an MVP talk with my numbers, that right there makes everybody go like, oh. Yeah, that's what... I mean, I saw Jaylen Brown. But you can't put him above SGA. You can't put them above Shay. You can't put him above... Above Joker.

Even Jaylen Brown, I think Kay, right now at best fit. And where's Wemby? Best fit. I don't think Wimby should be in the time. Wimby should be in the conversation. Wimby and Jail me and Joleneb. Joker should bounce on obviously as the week's going.

No, no, no. No, no. No, no. No. Wemby started off with the MVP type. He's exact. Nicole is exes. But he died now.

He got hurt. Yeah. So Wimby's fifth. Yeah, he should be fifth. He should be eight. Yeah, he should be. If he's in the top 10, he isn't even in the top five on his team from if he is.

If he is, he is one. I agree. So I agree. He should win six men. 22 points per game or 24 minutes. Right now, K. No, no. No, no.

His numbers are very good. With Nicola being out, K should be top three right now with Nicola being out. Jaylon Brunson is really holding a fort down. Who? No. Degenbrunson. What? He's holding the fort down.

No thumbs included. You know what I'm saying? Zaylon Brown is no thumbs in the tutoredoodoo. So we have, let me count, that's not one. Tiggle your little belly over there, didn't it? So six, six of the top ten, I believe, is the kid. MVP America Hoopers. Mr. B, you have some interesting things to say about the state of the league.

He said five Europeans, obviously SGA is from Canada, but an international player, but I mean, whatever. We need a passport to get over. The five of it. But let's shift over to the youth side of thing. So state of American hoops at the youth level has been a constant subject of debate filled with some criticism. So Steve Nash, who is Canadian, recently shared his thoughts on the biggest issues with grassroots

basketball development in the USA. Let's take a listen. This is about structure. You know, it's pay to play. It's pay to play in the States, you know. Capitalism is wonderful. It's not great for player development. In Europe, to play, it's free.

You go to your local club. It's subsidized more or less mostly by that community. So there's no hidden motives. There's no, we got a winner. The kids leaving to the next club. Everyone's here for the long term to develop more or less. And so I think what you get is coaches. There's thousands of amazing coaches in the United States.

It's not like there's only coaches in Europe. There's amazing coaches here. But they have a structure over there where you stick with your coaches, more or less generally, and you learn to play the game the right way under the right pretenses. You know, here it's just been totally commercialized and it makes it really hard for coaches to get their hands on a program or a kid and say, we are going to develop you the right way as a group to play skill basketball, team basketball, and play a variety of ways. Over here, it's very much like Swin said, get in your bag, learn the skills, some skills coach

is going to charge you by the hour at the park, whatever it is. I mean, it's gotten out of Unfortunately, I don't want to take any money out of everyone's pockets, but it makes the structure really difficult to teach kids to play the long game. Steve Nash, go ask you first. Steve Nash, spinning or tripping with his comments on the grassroots basketball development in the United States of America? What are they trying to say? That European players are way more fundamentally sound and way more educated of the game. It sounds like he's saying, fuck America. I mean, that's, I mean, that's, and they don't hate to play.

I just want to know what what are they saying because if you're saying that it's easier to coach your European player because it's a local situation no that's what they're saying not necessarily so what he's saying is right it's youth sports here is ran by money uh-huh right shoot comes because we get all the talent shoot coming but still in other places Like what? It's about the sport. That's what he's saying, right? In Canada and Europe, it's about the sport and not the money aspect of it, right?

The potential of the actual prospect where he goes to go, we're going to find with. In order for my seven-year-old to play basketball in Canada right now, it's free. Free. In order for my seven-year-old to play on the team now, I have to pay, to get him trained and to play, I have to pay. That's what he's saying. Oh, okay, okay. So they focus and if you don't pay, then your kid can't participate. Well, there is built in communities, and the community basically take, if it's a rec center,

the kids can go learn the skill for free at the rec center that have to pay to go to the rec center, learn the skill is what I gather from. I know what you're saying now. How many NBA players came from Canada? You don't need, need, don't even know. I know you looked it up already. No, no, just don't answer that. So their community of all of Canada has produced how many fucking players?

Right? About what, 10, 12 of them? The whole community. We had that community, too. It's called Park League Basketball. 29, 25 Canadians featured on NBA rosters. Good ones. So we have Park League where you can go play for free, right?

Yeah. The problem with us is we're so talented that you got to charge. So you're weeding out all the talent and putting them on these themes. We do have sorry players that's part of the community. We can build our team and they can learn all this little structure. But are they good? Because we can say whatever the fuck we want to say, you good, man.

The last time I checked, these countries are producing one to two players that's making it to this NBA. No matter what you said, where Lucas's from, How many of them are here? Slovenia. Luca. Where Janus is from?

How many of them are here? Greco, Nigeria. So I don't give a fuck. What your system is over there if it's producing one who plays like an American? Running niggas over, strong in everybody jumping through the lane. Huh? He's doing the same shit we're doing over here. He's just six goddamn 11.

So I'm trying to figure out what we're talking about in reality. In reality. What are we talking about? We want to change our whole system to do what someone does that's bringing one to two people over here every three decades. All right. Hey, she couldn't wait for you to come back. He ain't shared this much.

He ain't shared this much. Wow. He's worth a good stuff. I get what you're saying, right? And I get what Steve Nash is saying because nowadays, so I said it on this couch before, like basketball now has become the it's tennis and golf basically you have to pay to play right now basketball has become expensive for average people that don't know what you're saying right we grew up playing on the fucking park for free we grew up you got how many you got seven people

we're going to play three on three and you got next that's how we got better we didn't rely on trainers and getting charged $100 an hour for a skill set. We didn't do that. It goes both ways. You can get that and not be successful and get it. So it goes both ways, right? So I asked your side before the show, like somebody teaching my seven-year-old how to play helpside defense.

And I'm like, why? At seven. And I was in the shower at this morning, and I thought about it, like, I'm not fucking paying nobody to teach myself. I don't play half the defense. You know, but just why did you teach you the seven-year-old? Like he's going to remember that when he leaves. I'm saying?

Like he's going to remember that when he leaves. Like, hey, my son wearing number 30, hey, I'm Steph Curry. Yeah, yeah, yeah. My son told me that I'm Steph Curry. All right, so. Buckets do get the louder applause in the youth league games for those who are not. Block shots, nobody cares still. I get both points, but it fit, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah. But it's all the thing about pay to play, but I think when you have... Too much. But what's happened now, I see it in baseball, I've seen the basketball at the youth level, there's teams where if you're good enough, you do not pay to play. But the kids who are not good enough to make those things have to pay the play. So my AAU team, right, we was three, it was three different teams, right? And the guy that I paid for put all the good guys on one team,

on the next team and all the kids that was fun in the fucking program played on the last team, and they was getting drug every tournament. And so yeah, right? It's that. They stacked the deck and they put all these guys on one team and other guys are funding and all that. It's a sad case. It is. But that's the nature of the business, right?

It's, it's, it's how, somebody gotta pay for the jerseys, can you? It's just like every, listen, we act like basketball, sports is the only problem in America that, motherfucking, healthcare is free in other places. It is. So sports ain't the only fucking thing that we gotta pay for in this bitch. So if your son want to be Steph Curry, give me that check. I teach him how to be Steph. That's what we do. I teach you how to be Steph.

And that's our problem. Everybody wants to be NBA players. Yo, I think he's spitting facts. I just think off the fact that the way AAU has came is way more just playing tournaments. I think that's why a lot of our American players are hurt once they get to the league and to the next level. Just the fundamentals and everything is about money. You got players now that just plays tournaments all weekend and never even practice

or don't even know how to practice because everything is about getting to the money. In Europe, you know, I was able to be over there at 18 years old and I was playing against guys that were 14, 15 years old that was already playing professionally. And it was going through everyday practice and getting to the next level. And I think the American system right now as far as AAU, it needs to change because as we're looking at it right now, the five best players in the NBA and that will be the best players

in the NBA for a long time are all international players so if you don't think that that's a sign of changing and that you guys need to change the development you gotta be fucking kidding yourself Hey can I ask you something He said those people you play with

Right? It was 14, 15 playing pro And he said he wanted to get to next level No I'm saying they were already playing professionally Did they? Yeah they played for their professional team No did they get drafted here? No they play professionally Because they don't have high school basketball

So that's all professional. Did they get you? Oh, I mean, they got this. Did they get for their big league? They play for their professional team. No, not, not. You said when you got their 18, I saw 14 and 15 year olds playing professional basketball.

Where are they now? Still over their plan. Oh, and that's not. They don't take debate. I'm not taking the debate. They're still professional basketball players. When we go, they don't have high school and college. They don't have high school and college.

They don't have high school and college is a shit. I'm just saying. If I can play professionally at 14, 15, the hell high school and college means nothing. I'm a professional. Ricky Rubio was a professional at 15 years old. He was 14 years old. He was 14 years old in the Olympics in 2008.

That's a fact. Hey, dog, do you, you touch something very well. They are professionals at 14 and 15 years old, right? So when the USA 15, 16, and 17-year-old go, and play for the gold? They're not playing against those players. They're not playing against the 15. I know who ain't.

Yeah, they're playing the Phaven. You've been over it. I know who's winning. I know who's winning the gold in 15, 16, 17, and 17. Ain't lost yet. Because they, because they play 18. Because they plan 18 and under against 18. Let me know when I'm ready.

I'm ready. So let's shift over to Shosh Radamas, who has pulled out the book. Which chapter are we on right now? Do not have the alman act today? No, I left it in the car. Okay. No predictions.

Take it back to the future. Chapter 18. Okay. Book of Fundamentals. The book of fundamentals. Fundamentals. I think what Steve Nash is talking about is the fundamentals of the game. We talk about what the game entails when you talk about building a player from skill sets.

And when you have to play to get a trainer, we have to pay to play, pay to get a trainer, pay to do all the things in which we have looked at the game today as being a big discrepancy of our talent because we got guys who never reached the highest level training kids who want to reach the highest level and they're getting paid handsomely to pretend like I'm going to make you into Steph Curry I'm going to let you shoot him back here and say yeah that's it air ball left the air ball left the air ball how many Steph Currys do we have in the NBA one one not one two three four fifth we got one One step Curry And we got a 2.0 in Trey Young Right? Okay So here's here's a nice little tweet that I read

From somebody who played in the league He said So no one's going to admit the NBA is in a weird place The league is pickup ball now What happened to trying to exploit teams' weaknesses And making chess moves? What happened to game plans and watching games This season is like

It feels like it's just in a very weird place So he played in the 2000 with us. Okay. This is Jay Crowder. Who? So, yeah, Jay Crowder. Shout out, Jay Crowder.

So Jay is upset, and he feels a certain type of way about the game because we have went away from the fundamentals and the essence of what the game entails. What Steve Nash is talking about over there in Europe, because I played over there for a lot, because I wasn't allowed to play over here. So I got to watch and do camps and do camps and shit. I got to actually see where the grassroots started. What was they doing? How was they teaching their kids?

Especially in China. They actually spend majority of their fucking kids' days hammering down fundamentals. And it's not to make them professional NBA players. It's not for NBA players. What he's talking about, what he's talking about is what is the one thing we're not going to let you finish. No, no, we're not going to let you finish that. What is the one thing we're not going to let you finish that? We don't see fundamental.

We're not going to, I don't want to. All we see how much fundamental. Is niggins chucking up. What are they? Chucking up. What are they? Chuckin up. God damn.

Why are, why is, selling motherfucking noodles. Because all that goddamn fundamental. Because they can't come up. Because they can't come up. Where's the basketball player? Oh, the goddamn free fundamental. Where are the basketball players?

They over there, hey, what do they do? They push in the USA to the list. It's crazy. They're pushing the United States. They're crazy. the USA to the limit. Shout out. Shout out. South Sudan.

I'm pushing South Sudan. Pushing the USA to the limit with the Avengers. How? How? French. The Frenchman's. I'm pushing the motherfucking Avengers to the limit. They ain't got a basketball, not pick up.

They don't go out there in the All-Star game and go out there and dominate because they're like, we're supposed to be passing the movement. What happened to basketball? We're being taught basketball. We're not being taught freelance, freestyle, ball. And that's the difference. That's what he's talking about. You know what the difference is? Period.

So it's called athleticism, right? It's called athleticism. It's called athleticism. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So when we get a certain age and we can touch the rim, right? We're trying to dunk. Yeah. And

ain't too many times when we're going to the gym. We're going to try to dunk a hundred times. For hour. For hour. Well, we could have been working on the motherfucker. And trying to duck on people, drop step, all the other shit. We could have been working on a drop step. We could have been working on an hour We could have working a whole lot of shit,

but we didn't spend the hour trying to duck. Uh-huh. So... Can I get to him? Yes, please. Okay. I think we're out of time. I think we're out of time.

We have two and a half solid minutes. We have one man. We have one. Gerald D. Hey, what's up? I, skip. I think we got a time, Skip. We got two and a half good minutes.

So, China, China is. has more registered basketball players than we have humans here in the States. That's a fact. Yes. So if their fundamentals is so damn good, and they're working on their shit day after day, hour after hour. Who did we get from over there? Where is it?

We got your own league. They got their own league. They have their own league. We've got they tallest person. No. Hey, where is Jay, where's KJ playing right now? And he jumping over the guy He jumped over.

No, no, no. He jumping over over. I don't want to hear that. I want to. Where is he playing? I want to hear him in the league where all those Chinese Chinamen are over there fundamentally passing to each other.

You know what they're doing? Passing you. Pass a shoot. You know the ball. And when you're imported China, guess what you better be doing? Dunking that motherfucker like he was doing over there in the goddamn States. And if you're not, ship his ass out and give us another one. You are this our shit over.

You ever seen the 70-year-old league where they don't have no athleticism? They fundamental in the motherfucker going to cut past, open cat. Like, come on, doll. Let's just stop. The five best players here from overseas, seven-six, seven-foot, seven-foot, six-and-one. What they have that we don't have as bigs here is they are taught ball handling just like everybody. How good what y'all mean?

So let me get a push. How fundamentally down with you down me. It's their big man. You'll get a kick out of this one. So did y'all play against Northern Arizona when you was at Arizona? Did y'all play against Northern Arizona? Yeah, I think so. All to make the same size.

Every second. Hey, they six, three, cut like a motherfucker. Like playing against Harvard. Shout out. They were back doing the shit out of that. We played them in a tournament. They don't do this, they do the same shit. They don't, they don't do, yeah.

What the Euro has learned, if you look at the players that are coming here, and they're dominating. They're all six, nine, and above. They're different. And they have the same skill set as a guard. So I can get a giddy who's six, nine, and say, play point, right? And we build the team around his asset. Yokic, what do you do?

I can pass. I can dribble. I can shoot. I can make plays. Give him the ball. Wimby, what do you do? I can play guard. You know what I mean?

It's the big men that are evolving. the game saying America, if you want to keep up with us, y'all better stop in AAU, stop putting the tallest guy as the five men. We all guards here. That's a great point you're making, though, because you're saying that the euros that are bigger have more fundamentals than the regular average player in America. So we're going to give you the ball so that you can make the fundamental plays that our athletic guys just, they just, we want them to be athletic.

They don't have to be specialists. But we don't like I'm not going to say we I'll say the international players Overseas don't have the leniency to be athletic and be the guy that you're going to point out and be like we want him to play this we want to do this you got to be a Luca you got to be a joker you got to be a yoness you got to be something that that gives a sangoon and a giddy and all of these guys have fun they're fundamentally sound that's why they're assets Belis is from Chicago you got Denny Avia you got all these kids that that are now coming in

into the league giving hope to the other international players like if I'm fundamentally sound I now have a seat on somebody's bench in the NBA that's all I'm saying. 80% of the euros are black. Shout out to the transatlantic

movement of humans but on that note I've got to wrap up but make sure we've got NFL divisional playoff set right now so make sure you stick around for an all new episode of the arena gridiron coming up right now but this has been another episode of Gills Arena presented by Underdog.

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