Gil's Arena - The Knicks & KAT's Slow Start CONCERNS The Gil's Arena Crew

Episode Date: October 29, 2024

The Knicks & KAT's Slow Start CONCERNS The Gil's Arena Crew as Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Crew break down Banchero's INSANE Performance to become the youngest Orlando Magic player to ever drop 50 in a game and debate if Paolo taking a 3rd year leap changes how they view the young Orlando team. They also react to Karl Anthony Town's poor start to the season on his new team, discussing if the New York Knicks made the wrong move in trading for the Big Bodega and pairing him with already established stars like Jalen Brunson and Josh Hart. Next, they break down Klay Thompson's hot start on his new team the Dallas Mavericks, highlighting how his role on the team is a perfect fit for the sharpshooter and allows the Mavs to shine even when Luka Doncic has an off night. Finally, Gil & The Crew react to Kawhi Leonard's former trainer suing the Clippers for poor injury management and discuss the Los Angeles Lakers' first loss of the season where JJ Redick took full accountability for his first NBA mistakes. Please leave us a like and subscribe!!! Gil's Arena Crew - Gilbert Arenas, Josiah Johnson, Kenyon Martin, & Lexie Brown Gil's Arena Merch is Available NOW at http://gilsarenamerch.com/ Use code GIL10 for 10% off your SeatGeek order https://seatgeek.onelink.me/RrnK/GIL10 Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get up to $1000 in Bonus Cash and A FREE Pick: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gi... SUBSCRIBE: / @gilsarena Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos! / discord Intro 0:00:00 Show Start 0:01:59 Karl Anthony Towns' Early Season Struggles 0:06:02 Julius Randle Blossoming in Minnesota 0:18:57 NASTY Game Of Trick Or Treat 0:32:48 JJ Redick Takes The Blame For The Lakers 1st Loss 0:38:53 Impact Of A Loss On The Locker Room 0:48:06 LeBron's Insane Double Digit Scoring Streak 0:49:53 Should The Lakers Target Walker Kessler? 1:01:42 Kawhi's Trainer SUES The Clippers 1:07:43 Are The Clippers Succeeding Without Kawhi 1:14:49 Klay Thompson Is BALLING With The Mavs 1:25:18 Paolo Banchero's 50 Piece 1:42:23 Payton Pritchard COOKS The Bucks 1:56:45 Back to Back 40 Pieces For Jokic 2:03:34 MostlyFans 2:15:17 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Whoa, whoa! As you see, another festive day here in the arena. Y'all already know we're going to be turnt up all week long, so we got to raise the bar. We had our shot impersonators yesterday. It's going to be another fun one today. But this is Gil Zarina presented by Underdog Fantasy. As always, we got the legend Gilbert Reedus here with us. Good job, good job.

We got WNBA champion and recent birthday celebrator Lexi Brown. Back in the arena. 21? Yep. Okay. Still thriving, still looking. Still thriving, huh? Yep, 21.

And over on this side of the couch on the grill, we got Kenya Martin in the house. At least I think. And over on this side of the couch on the grill, we got Kenya Martin in the house. At least I think. Can you talk? What's happening? What's happening? So Halloween is this Thursday,

and to celebrate, we're dedicating a day in the arena to each member of our cast. Today's theme is Griller Killer Kitchen. About to die. In honor of Kenya Martin. About is Griller Killer Kitchen. I'm about to die. In honor of King Amar. I'm about to die. You know he's about to throw something on the grill real quick. He got the sandals ready to go. I might throw somebody on the grill today.

Who I feel like filleting today. Oh, yeah. Might fillet somebody today. George Carl might be on the menu. We'll see. I might pick somebody up. Just for shits and gigs. Just for shits and gigs. Don't F with the chef. Shits and gigs. Shits and gigs. Don't F with the chef.

I want some beef just because. Mm-hmm. Fuck it. It is your day, Kane. Feel free to do what you want to do. And for all the fans out there, as a reminder, we still have two viewing options for you, our traditional version and a mobile vertical version.

Pick whichever one you want to watch. Just make sure you support the show. Here's what's cracking in the arena today. Paulo Banqueiro dropped the first 50-piece in the league this season. How much of a leap will him and the Magic make? This year made the playoffs last year. Said that he thought that squad might be good enough to take the East. I feel like that may be capped, but top three in the East may be very, very, very reasonable this season.

The Big Bodega only took eight shots in the the Knicks lost to the Cavs Monday night. What can the Knicks do to help Cat fit better into their offense to get back on the right track? And the Celtics are one of three undefeated teams remaining in the league with an MVP candidate in Jason Tatum, all-NBA-level candidate in Jalen Brown. But do they have the best bench in the league? I'm sure P-Rabbit thinks so. But before we get into all that, as always, this show is brought to you by Underdog. Download the app, use promo code GIL, get up to $1,000 in bonus cash, plus a special pick-em.

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But if you can't watch the show live with us on YouTube, we've got audio versions available on Apple spotify wherever you get your podcast did i see you over there you got something on your mind what's cracking no i'm just chilling i'm just chilling waiting for my drink i'm waiting for these beverages it's a barbecue those are little parts cookout and my shit it's a celebration But until the drinks arrive, let's get into it. Knicks made a big splash with two big offseason trades, but they're struggling to make the pieces fit to start the season. The Cavs pulled up to Madison Square Garden Monday night,

took over their trap, and Darius Garland gave them 34 points. Donovan Mitchell had 25, and Evan Mobley added 17 and 8 boards to help Cleveland improve to 4-0 this season. Knicks had an injury scare when Jalen Brunson left the game briefly in the third quarter with an apparent knee injury. Brunson would return to the game. Let's take a look. Oh, yeah, you never know with those. Thankfully, he did return to the game, finishing with 21 points,

but was 8 for 24 from the field, but he did also have 7 assists. However, the newest Knick, the big bodega, Carl Anthony Towns, finished with 13 points on just 8 total shot attempts. He also had 10 rebounds and 32 minutes of action. New York is now 1-2 this season after a second-place finish in the East last season. After the game, Brunson took accountability for not getting capped the ball enough.

I would say, I mean, as good as Carl is, there's no one can really take him out of the game. It's just on us. It's on me as a teammate to make sure we're all on the same page and we're all making sure that everyone's eating. So, I mean, I've got to be better when it comes to that. I've got to adjust and I've got to see. So, Towns' first season of the game, I believe, nine shots, 12 points.

Second game, he followed that up with 21 points on 11 field goal attempts. This game, eight shot attempts. Does Cat need to be more assertive? Or is it on Brunson to get him the ball more? I think it's both. They got to work in conjunction. Yeah, he's not used to having somebody else that he needs to share it with.

Traded for him for a reason. Yeah. So. Can't dribble the ball for 18 seconds of every shot clock. I'm just got to get off of it sometime. You are the dominant

ball handler and scorer. We understand that. Yes, but got to get off of it, bro. He's just standing around. He's a jump shooter. He's a rhythm shooter. So if he's not in the rhythm, him just horsing up shots when he catches it, it's bad basketball.

Then you start being looked at as you're really selfish when you're not really. So, yeah, no, it's on him to be more assertive when he gets it and not just be a jump shooter, putting the ball on the deck, getting the post, right? And, yeah, so... But it's on both of them, man. Yeah. And Cat only six three-point attempts through three games.

He's playing predominantly the five right now, correct? Knicks do have some big-man issues that they wait for from Mitchell. Yeah, he's not he's not a five He's a four he's played next to Rudy Gobert for all those years even defensively. He fought out last night Cat did Steven half out the way he's playing it sounded like it. Yeah. Yeah, so He's having a battle in a different way Defend different types of players and it's yeah, his having a battle in a different way, defend different types of players, and it's, yeah, his rhythm is all out of whack.

But, yeah, you look at Jalen Brunson with seven assists, like, that's cool, you have seven assists, but you have the ball 95% of the time. So you really should have more than seven assists, but you're going to have to get off the ball for sure. But, yeah. So he had six three-point attempts through three games.

He was averaging, like, 5.3 per game last season. He's a spacer. This is why coaching is very important. This is why training camp has to be taken serious because... Who was their center last night or last year?

Mitchell Robinson and Hardenstein. Hardenstein, right? That's up. How many times did Hardenstein get the ball? Not often. Not often, right? Got it off the glass. Huh? Got it off the glass, right? What's the difference here? Mm-hmm. Right? You didn't pass the five-man the ball in the last how many years? Right? Right? It's been guard. So you don't really have any plays for this man at the five. So the fact that he's playing a five and he can't see the ball,

that's just your offense itself. True. Right? So unless you're going to put some plays in, throw it down, turn five, which I don't know if he's comfortable doing that. Right? He needs the pick and pop type of game, and you're not used to your five men popping. All right?

You better go look at some of that shit they used to run for Dirk. That's the only way you're gonna... Right? Guards pinning down. Jalen Brunson, they passing. Jalen Brunson pinning down for him, him curling. Making, but he going out, you got your legs, to your point, absolutely.

Like, and even, even, just even, okay, you don't have any plays for him, be cool. But you don't, you've been in this game a long fucking time as a coach. Right? You know there's things that you can put into it that doesn't require Any practice you can say all right two man game one in the five man

Yeah, yeah, all right cat go to the elbow Brunson throw it. That's a fly off top It's simply right if they if they go under pop it back if they go over trail Right if they play a perfect turn and face come on Go to the way you go into the side pick and and roll, whatever, get him in the block. There's so much you can do off of it that they... So much that don't need no... Other three, run around. Yeah.

Right, you know what I mean? You just do something. Do a double... Double pick. Pin down, both of y'all go stagger him away and... You can do that three times a quarter. That's 12 shots just on that. I mean, it's just...

It's just weird that these old-time coaches have gotten so lazy. And it is laziness. Because some of the players are young and they're not, we're not going to call them stupid, they're just not educated on the game itself.

And they're not studying the game itself on how to get open and how to create offense out of nothing Backdoor and slash and when you don't have the ball I get it, but you can't be completely stupid, too Right and you know, yeah when Mitchell Robinson comes back and he can go to five he can go to full four It still doesn't say nothing about your coaching Your coaching is now how to get that man involved while he's the five man. True.

We know what it's going to look like when he goes back to the four. Mitchell Robinson, he won't get no plays. Get it off the glass tight. Tip it back. Cool. But right now, Cat is at the five. How do you get him the ball so you can be successful now? True.

You might as well just put Josh Hart at the five. Just go, hey, Josh Hart, you the five. Offensively, you might as well. You might as well just put him in a dunker spot and do, hey, Josh, he know how to play the position. Yeah. Yeah.

He should get 10 minimum shots per game. 10 minimum per half? Yeah, he should be at like 50. game. I've seen minimum perhaps. I mean, yeah like he should be at like I can't get Julia shot Julius is getting my goddamn shots Average under ten field goal attempt for a game. It's three game sample size obviously good like you mentioned Training camp preseason a lot different than when you guys were coming up.

You had a few weeks to figure it out, figure the chemistry out. Now it's about a week of practice. You get right into games. When did this trade happen? Right before the season started, right? Yeah, right before the season started. Into September, I think it happened.

Then October kind of was a... October. Boom. October, right? That means, boom, you're watching his film, watching how he plays, and then you implement them You ain't gotta watch film you played again play it again

If you roll your staff wrote up a scouting report versus Carl Anthony Towns before you know how the boy play basketball Let's stop this shit. You're right. You know how the boy play. Mm-hmm. You know what he do. You know what he don't do And they got him doing what he don't do. Absolutely. Post up. There you go. Stand over here, watch them play basketball. Alright. What'd you say? I said stand over here

and watch them play basketball. Get it off the glass, young man. Get up. But I don't know. Hey, you'll figure it out eventually. They shooting that bitch We asked the chat are you concerned for cat in the next 59% say yes look is early That's all good. Good. And now watching the game. There's a lot of concern in New York right now. Yeah, they just basketball

L's are being distributed. He's distributed. Pat Jones might not work properly. A lot of things going on. Y'all was nervous last night. Who? Your feet don't fit no limb. Your feet don't fit no limb. Who, the Dodgers? Y'all was a little nervous.

No concern. Two run home run. Yeah, whatever. Listen. Bound to happen. But that assassin on deck. Uh-huh. Boy, y'all, listen, man. Y' Bound to happen. A win is a win. But that assassin on deck? Uh-huh. Boy, y'all, listen, man.

Y'all, hey, trust me. Soto would've gone up the bat, boy, y'all would've shit y'allself. I'm telling you right now. Is it 3-0 right now? It's 3-0. Yeah, it's 3-0. Don't worry, Soto will be in L.A. Soto will be in L.A. next year.

He get up the bat, guaranteed. I'm worried for him. Everybody on they knee right in front of the TV like, man, please. Man, this is down bad for them New Yorkers, right? Oh, yeah. You know, just across the board. So we asked the chat if they're concerned. Thank God for the liberty.

Facts. Facts. If I'm them, I'm going to throw another parade. Parade part two. Once a month to keep y'all happy. Look, it's only three games in the season. Obviously, a lot of basketball left to be played. Of course.

But do you agree with the chat? No. That the Knicks should be concerned right now? No. It's three games. There's no concern. I mean, there's no concern. It's just a little problem that they need to fix up.

So what they need to go look at, how many times last year did Karl-Anthony Towns only get eight shots? It's shit like that, right? It's happened. It's happened. He's not a number one option. And he was a number two option last year.

Number two option last year. So it's... And he's not in a position to come in and voice his opinion, because he's the one that's coming there on a team that went That was second. Yeah, you can not realizing you gonna get the blame Disrupted on what they had. Yeah, and that's what it look like you gone So you asked eight or less shots six times I believe last season 62 games. Yeah folks. So stop it.

That's just who he is. Mm-hmm. Did we ever find out why this trade happened? Uh, you know. It was financial for which group? Well, there were reports to Wolves it was financial. They came out and said that wasn't as big of an issue or a factor, but they had Cat locked up for all them years with all that bread committed.

Minnesota, they wasn't there. Oh, so if they just let Julius go, they can get something back. Shit, they would have to sign him. They need a new arena. They need all kinds of shit. They sign him in a couple years, it would have been like shit. Mm-mm. Now that we've gotten a look at it, we're going to talk about the other side in a second.

But do you agree, and obviously Julius Randle going into the last year of his deal had a player option. This summer, remains to be seen if the Wolves are going to extend him, what's going to go on there. I mean, he has a player option. And if, let's say they top three, he plays well, like he's been playing double- um 20 and 10 to i mean

he will he will opt out because at this point in his career just like any older guy right now you have a guaranteed what so right now he has this year he's making 29 mil player option next year for 31. Yeah, so you'll opt out of that 31 because only 31 is guaranteed, right? Only 31 is guaranteed. If you can get a three-year 150, you're going to do that, right? You're going to lock down those other years of guaranteed money, right? When you're young, you don't do that.

When you're older, it's more about guaranteed money versus just how much per year you're making. So if they don't assign him to an extension, I'm pretty sure he's going to opt out. They get more years because you don't know what's going to happen next year. So now let's talk about the Wolves' side of the deal, obviously. Nick's got a cap from the Wolves. Randall heads out to Minnesota. Vibes are a little different for Julius Randall over there right now.

So after taking just 10 shots in their season opening loss at Lakers, Randall followed that up by dropping 33 on the Kings, going 13 for 17 from the field, 5 for 6 from 3, and then 24 and 9 boards on the Raptors. He was 9 for 16 from the field in that game. So here's what Anthony Edwards said about Randall last week after Minnesota's first win of the season. Oh, my God.

We told him this morning, man. Hey, don't fit around us. We're going to fit around you. And he showed us today. I love Anthony. That boy country as shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So Atlanta.

Oh, my God. Goddamn Georgia. He's so Atlanta. What? So just looking at it again. So Atlanta. Very small sample size. But is Julius Randall a more seamless fit with the Wolves

than Cat is with the Knicks at this point? We knew it would be. All of us said the same thing. We didn't think it would have been an issue. I was going to do exactly what he was doing with them. We never said he couldn't play. Just people in New York didn't like him. I mean, it's weird.

Man, 20 and 10 and getting booed. Getting booed. All NBA. All NBA getting booed. Man, that shit, wow. Where else is that? That shit don't happen nowhere. Nowhere else.

Nowhere. You got an all NBA top. He's top two, top three in his position. Night in, night out. He's top two top three in his position night in night out He is doing his fucking job night in the weather. They winning the loser. He is doing his job Like and getting booed like your power force. He's ranked in front of cat. Yes Why you know if he's all NBA player? Y'all didn't know that if you didn't

Like when you when you say Giannis, right? And then whoever, if he's third team, it's him. If he's second team, he's behind Giannis. Technically, right? So when you looked at both the trades, they both made sense to the way the team was going, right? You know, Anthony Edwards, you can see in the playoffs, he needed somebody else

when they got the ball, they put pressure. Cat, sometimes he needed to take advantage of the small guy guarding him. For the most part, in those series, he wasn't posting up, he wasn't taking advantage when he had the advantage in some of those series. I think he had

the advantage in the Dallas series and he didn't take over, which forced Anthony Edwards to try to beat through three to four people. So getting a guy who can play one-on-one, who can create his own offense, you got Julius Randle. On the other hand, the way New York played, Julius kind of messed up the flow there because, I mean, we didn't get a we didn't get a real good taste of how they really played together when everybody was there but just one guy keeps it

for you know 20 seconds make those passes everybody shoots um that kind of messed up that would mess up his flow so putting cat in who's just a catch and shoot guy made sense what don't make sense is cat at the five that's what's messing up the New York part. So we won't know if New York is winning until... He goes to the four. Also giving up DiVincenzo, I think. But then you knew that Mitchell Robinson was out when you made the trade.

So you knew that he was going to have to play out of position, so it's... Mitchell Robinson not expected back until at least January. But to be honest, this is when coaching comes in. What is the smarter move? Is the smarter move to take

Josh Hart out and put a center in? Right? Or you keep it the same way? Who's their backer center? They're thin at the center position right now. They don't have anybody, right? I mean, you just need a body.

If you want to win, you got to move Cat to the floor. You need to put him in his position, right? Because your offense doesn't cater to that, because he's just out of position. At least offensively, right? Defensively, he can guard fives, but on the offensive side, you got to let him cook. I mean.

I have to be honest. Having him at the five is horrible, too, because it's either three or layup, which means someone's coming to that basket every goddamn other play, and he ain't a shot block. He can't get off the ground. So, you know, you got any athletic, decent guard that's coming to the lane all the time, he's going to be in foul trouble. He's going to either block the—sorry, he's not even going to block the shot.

Either he's going to challenge the shot or he's going to foul. Right? You know, there's no either or. Before, he had Rudy Goldberg back there. Right? He didn't have to worry about it. So he didn't have to worry about anything like that. It's just, all right, get the rebound if Rudy alters the shot. Right? He didn't have to worry about it. So he didn't have to worry about anything like that. It's just, all right, get off, you know, get the rebound, you know, if, you know, Rudy alters the shot.

Right? So playing with Rudy was great for him. Now you're supposed to be Rudy? Ah, yeah, I'm sorry, sir. And then back to the Julius Randle side of it, what do you think about what Ant Edwards said just in terms of a player, all-NBA level player, and Randall coming to that squad?

We're going to fit around you. I mean, I think that Ant is, like, extremely confident in himself and his game. So when he's adding a player like that, that he knows is going to make him look good and the team look better, then that's why you get, like, all that positivity coming from Ant.

Like, he's not threatened by what Julius is bringing to the team. He's embracing it and letting Julius be himself because he's played against Julius all these years and saw what was going on in New York. So I'm sure he's happy to bring in Julius where he's like feeling embraced and he can play his game like without worrying about the fans, worrying about the city just out there hooping.

Randall had a relationship with Chris Finch. I think they spent a year together with the Pelicans. So I think he was super excited about making that move over there and now being utilized effectively and efficiently. And it's led to two wins so far this season. I love when someone say, we got a you do you, we'll feel around you.

Cap. You think he lying? Cap. Cap. Listen, it sounds good. It sounds good, right? Yeah, I know. I mean, it's easier to say that after a win, of course.

We're going to run off and, you know, you do you. You do you, and then we'll fit around you. Knowing damn well the offense is one, two, and three, right? And no, it's not going to affect him. There's only been one person that that was actually true when they came to your system, and that was Shaquille O'Neal. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're going to go around you. Yeah, yeah.

Do what you do, and we'll figure the rest of this shit out. Yeah. To that point, so far in three games, Anson Tepton, 23.3 field goals a game. A career high last year, he averaged 19.7. I'm saying, like, it's Tepton 23.3 field goals a game. A career high last year he averaged 19.7. I'm saying it's not affecting his game. That's usually what it is when someone like Anthony Edwards says it.

All it really means is, listen, when you get the ball, do you. You know what I mean? Do you. We adjust. Play your game. Play your game. We don't want you to look for me. Trust me, I'm going to get that. I'm going to shoot that. I'm going to get my shots up. Play your game. Yeah, play your game. We don't want you to look for me. Trust me, I'm going to get that. I'm going to shoot that. Yeah, I'm going to get that.

I'm going to get my shots up. So get comfortable. That's really what it means is, you know, sometimes when you go in a situation, you're trying not to bump heads with the star player. Right? So you basically, you know, Bronny James game one.

Right? His daddy right there, here you go. Here you go. Here you go. I'm here to watch too. Like, you know, that's what that mindset is.

You're really mindful of where the best player is because you don't want to, you don't want him to do this like, oh, this dude. You don't want that. Right? So you really.

It is a long season. So we will see how it pans out for both squads. And you don't want that, right? So you really... It is a long season, so... We will see how it pans out for both squads. But we asked the chat, better fit with new team, Randall with the Wolves or Cat with the Knicks? 77% said Julius Randall with the Wolves. Chat been pretty good lately.

Okay, chat. Okay. So... What? Wasn't a hard choice. You know the chat be going off the rails sometimes. They do, but that's not a... There wasn't a scientific mathematical equation

they had to fucking solve with that one. A lot of New York fans in the chat, though. Shit. Yeah, most of our viewers are New Yorkers. That's the... No, yeah, they honest with it. They know what they're watching. They know what they watching. They know what they're watching.

They ain't just started watching it. They been watching, so... They do know what they're watching. Who's the center? Let me just go. By jersey number 55. Right, 55 is the center. 55 is the center.

Not to either. You never know. Huh? Yeah, well... Yeah, 55. He is the center. He is the center. Who? 55 is in there not either you never know huh yeah well yeah he is in her who so he's the backup so they got to back up they got to back up sinners start in there started yeah he only played four minutes a lot threat hmm he'll crash dummy and that And that's the thing. I'm trying to figure out if I would put Josh Hart on the bench and move everybody down, and I got Bridges at the two,

OB at the three, Towns at the four, and Jericho at the five. Four minutes into the game. If he ain't doing nothing four minutes into the game. No, but he's going to do what he do, though. Yeah. He is. Like, he's gonna do what he do though. Yeah. He is what, like he's, like he gonna, if he's Jalen penetrate, he'll lob threat. Uh-huh.

He'll pick and roll guy. He not a jump shooter. Okay. He can play in a dunker. Yeah. So you can sub him at four minutes and put Josh Hart in the game. Put Josh Hart in the game. Same, so it's the same thing.

Mm. This might be a bad year for New York in general. I'm going to be honest. But it's, you know, what's so funny is Josh Hart is one of those guys, man, that's just like, if he starts or comes off the bench, he's going to do what he's going to do. He's not a guy who's impacted. And his effect is not in the first quarter of the game.

Yeah, he watches. His effect is the fourth quarter when it's winning time. Yeah, he learns. That's when Josh Hart is really important to your team. He makes game-winning basketball plays. Yeah. Rebound. Offensive rebounds, steals, blocks, charge.

He do all those things. Yeah. So the first quarter is like, all right, we need to get Carl Anthony Towns going. How can we do that? And it's, to your point, changing the lineup. You can play small ball at the end. Yeah. He's like that Iguodala.

Ooh, Josh Hart. He's that type where, you know what I mean? Like, there might be a series where he'll be like, yo, can you bring off the bench? And then he comes in, impacts the game, and he can win the finals MVP. Yes, he is. Right?

I mean, he's one of those type of guys where how he plays the game. There's going to be a game where everybody's doubled and you're leaving him open and he gets you 30, 10, and 7 assists, one of them games, and then you get your double-double, and you'll be like, Jesus Christ, Finals MVP. That's where I get 20 rebounds. Right? So, you know what I mean?

It's just one of those things where, as a coach, you're going to have to be really mindful of how the game is being played. So, tough night for New Yorkers Monday. Tuesday won't be much better. Because at the end of the day, when Mitchell Robinson comes back in, who are you going to bench? Probably Josh Hart.

It's going to be Josh Hart. Might as well start with him. Might as well get Carl comfortable. Might as well get it. Might as well get off to a head start to it, goddammit. At least get Carl going. You know, Tim's gonna run up to the ground first. You gonna play all these minutes. All of them. Is Big Bodega the name that they're rolling with?

You took the word. I meant to ask. I slipped my mind. I saw that interview, but because they said Big Purr, which I liked. Big who? You like Big Purr? Big Purr? Big Bodega? His name is Kutz. Big who? Yeah, but Big Purr, which I liked. You like Big Purr? Big Purr? Big Bodega? His name is Katz. Who? Yeah, but Big Purr doesn't really... Big Purr? Because he's Katz.

Big Purr. Oh, my. Don't call me Big Purr. That's the lady asked him after the game. He liked the nickname. He said no, but I like it. Yeah, that's sad. Yeah.

Sounds like somebody from Atlanta on a... It's fitting. A Big Purr comment. Big Bodega can go, though. They... You don't like Big Bodega? Neither one of them. The Big Bodega?

I don't like Big Bodega. What was the other one? I feel like there was three. Mm-hmm. He has a nickname already. Big Purr sounds like an Atlanta stripper. It's that Atlanta stripper, boy, that just... She said, what about Big Purr?

They got that donky donk, donky donk. And she's coming out here doing all kind of tricks for the crowd. That's going to be his name, I'm sure. It somehow always devolves to that. You know, on stage, you come in big purr. Woo. Get your dog ready. I like it.

But like I said, tough night for New Yorkers Monday. Tuesday not going to be much better. Shohei coming. Her cat. Shohei coming. Her cat. Shohei coming. Be ready. Oh, man. That's a horrible nickname.

Big cat. It's just cat. That's his initials. It's literally his name. There was already a cat, though. There's Katina Mobley. Yeah. With a C.

Yeah, with a C. Cat. But now we got a cat with a K. Cat with a K. Meow. True. So you should go kitty cat. Big purr. Kitty cat. A cat with a K. Meow. So he should go kitty cat. Kitty purr. Kitty purr.

Tapping to his Chris Boshness. Okay, and moving onward. Moving onward and upward. No, no, I mean, he was straight. He just played into the role. Like, y'all want to troll me, I troll back. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he troll back. That's what made him funny, though.

He'll troll back, though. That's what I'm saying, Cat. They control. He'll be like, is the camera on me? They'll be like, yeah. Hey. They'll be like,

yo, he's funny. Big Bodega is not it. He was trolling before trolling started. So we will see if New York has come up with something better for Cat, but really they need to come up

with some wins first. But all week we are in the spirit of Halloween on Gil's Arena. And that concludes with the Gil's Arena Halloween special this Thursday. 11.30 a.m. Pacific, 2.30 p.m. Eastern. All of our Los Angeles-based

cast will be here in costume celebrating the momentous occasion. If you watched our Halloween special last year, just know that this year will be twice as dope. We'll see you on Thursday okay shout out to our crew decorating the set putting together this lovely Halloween special promo again that is this Thursday 1130 in Pacific 2 30 p.m.

on the Lutheran Coaster. No, what is in there? Juice. Oh. We will also be celebrating the Dodgers World Series Championship on Halloween, if not sooner. So we are continuing our... Yes. Uh-uh. Get this man another one.

So we are continuing our week-long celebration today with a segment called Trick or Treat. So we got some trays out here. Staff's bringing out two trays for each of us, one containing a tasty treat, the other containing a not-so-tasty snack. Oh, no. Items look exactly the same,

so we won't know which is the trick and which is the treat until we bite into them. No, no, no. See? Be patient. No, no, no. I've seen one. I was like, oh, shit, let me show them and then it's on the other side.

We could go wrong with this segment. Like I said, once everybody has their trays in front of them, we're going to count to three, try one of the snacks in front of them

at the same time. No, no, no. So you guys pick which tray you want to open. This is like fear factor. Everybody going with the same number? It is. I don't know.

Killer Griller special. I'll let you or the boss. I'm going to tuck my chain in. You pick which one we take. No, I'm just saying. Are we going with the same number or are we going with the same number? I don't know. I don't know if it's everything the same number.

Whatever number you're picking is nasty. I'm throwing this at you. Wait, wait. I'm pretty sure they tricked us, so we don't have the same number. No, I'm just saying. I'm pretty sure. Or they're both nasty. Or we going all ones or all twos is what I'm pretty sure they tricked us, so we don't have the same numbers. No, I'm just saying. We don't have the same, but I'm just saying. Are we going all ones or all twos is what I'm asking. All right, Chad, y'all tell us.

All I'm saying is our crew don't really like us like that. We're going one or two. The crew don't really like us like that. I'm sure they're both the nasty ones. That's how I would approach it. Chad, put the one or the two in the what's the name? We got three ones, four ones, five ones, one, one, one. Okay.

Hey, Lazy. One. One it is. One, one, one. Hey, Lazy. One. One it is. One it is. Oh. No, this don't look right. All right, take a bite. Take a bite.

At the same time. Okay. Is that toothpaste? Yours is good, though. It is toothpaste. There might be some toothpaste in here. I feel this. It is toothpaste. There might be some toothpaste in here. I don't know. You're fine.

I like snacks. Mine's fine. Yours is fine? He said, I like snacks. Yeah. Wait, wait. Was it toothpaste? Was it toothpaste? I couldn't tell.

Oh, no. That was toothpaste. Well, nah. That was too fast. Well, at least you know. Cavity protection. Nice try. Okay, I see y'all. All right. All right, that's what we're doing?

Some cavity protection. That's nasty. Hey, chat. Whose blood did y'all give Gilda Drake? Ugh, this is nasty. Was that Colgate? That was? I haven't tasted that since I was a child.

Oh, yeah. You can tell they took it apart, too. Colgate, they gave me the Colgate. Okay. Gil, the chat is saying that you don't brush your teeth. I don't believe it, but I'm just pointing out what they're saying. Obviously, I knew that was Colgate. And our crew, also smart, just gave Canyon two Oreos. Didn't even, you know. We don't play those type of games.

No, they're not. That is definitely one of those. We got two, yeah. Bam, that's how you know I don't really be eating Oreos. I was like, it looks fine. Nope. You can tell. Minty, yeah. You can tell. It's too flat. You spit it out.

Y'all don't like the bread. Y'all better get them double stuffs. That's gross. Oh, yeah, y'all should have made it the same. Appreciate it. Can you give me a cup? I'm just going to be honest with you. It just seems very strong in this.

It looks like there's three shots in there. That's actually Rashad's pee gill that we're giving you. Damn. Go ahead and take a sip. Okay. How much is that? That looks like a big old... Not a fan of the show yesterday.

No, I'm just kidding. There you go. That was cool. Who came up with this idea? Deb, that was you? All right. Good job. Good job.

Yeah. Deb, excellent execution. Not a good job. Good job. Cut. It's a good job because you... Yeah, because you got an Oreo. Yeah, excellent execution. Not a good job. Good job. Cut. It's a good job because you... Yeah, because you got an Oreo. No, it would have been a good job either way.

Ugh. It's a great concept. Yeah. Y'all just picked wrong. Yeah, yeah. We picked right, but they just had... Yeah, yeah. Chat didn't mess us up.

No, we all picked the same number. Yeah, yeah. We all picked the same number. Yeah, Chat. Y'all just ate. That's what happens when you listen to the chat. Good job, Chat. Appreciate you. Nah. Not picking two.

Ugh. So appreciate you. Yes, ladies and gentlemen, all week long, Halloween, we get festive out here in the arena. Shout-out to our crew for these lovely decorations. Shout-out to the crew in the back. Like, sometimes you should have had both toothpaste in one of them.

You should have. Y'all thought about that yesterday? I would have just went all toothpaste. One of them should have had both toothpasteall thought about that? Yeah, I see. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I would have just went all toothpaste. One of them should have had both toothpaste. Yuck. We don't play fair here in Gilderina. You don't even eat the other one because I'm pretty sure that was toothpaste.

So stay tuned to Gilderina for the rest of the week for all the Halloween-themed content. Now a team that we don't talk about much on this show. Got to address the sad situation that happened last night. Lakers' quest for the first undefeated season in league history was derailed Monday night as they suffered their first loss at the hands of the Suns.

That loss included a rough shooting night for LeBron James. 3-14. Scored 11 points. LeBron's record double-digit scoring streak was in danger of ending. He had 7 points in the 4th quarter. Late in the 4th streak, was in danger of ending. He had seven points in the fourth quarter. Late in the fourth quarter, he knocked down a three,

proceeded to hit a free throw as well. Extended to 1,226 games. Double-digit? Damn, double-digit scoring. Longer than Shaq's career, as someone pointed out. What? 1,226 games with at least 10 points. How many years is that? And he's number one right now?

Ever? Yeah. That's a lot of years. You know, no question, no debate. That's crazy. Unfortunately, though, first loss in the J.J. Redick and Bronny era. To this point, Bronny had not known what a loss feels like. Hasn't known what a loss, yeah.

It remains to be seen how it will impact him moving forward for the duration of his career. Fucking Josiah. He has it. And we had the fortune teller here yesterday, Kanye, talk about KJ and Bronny. I would like to see them pair up together. Reunite the... Oh yeah, reunite.

Sierra Canyon Legends. Go win a chip. But after the game, JJ Redick put the loss on himself after Lakers scored just 14 points in the second quarter. There's one thing to nitpick. It's probably me. I probably should have gone to the fire possession or two earlier against KD,

but I liked that group that we had out there defensively. I trust those guys. And then the other thing I would say is we should never have a 14-point quarter. So that's on me as well. Part of that is me. I got to make sure we're running good offense. So, Kenya, I know Lakers are not your favorite team, but when you watch, you don't tell us, but you support it on the low.

Do you like the accountability from J.J. Redick after the loss? It's what he's supposed to say. It ain't on him. It's not. We're talking about professionals here. And the NBA got a problem shooting the basketball, bro. Ball just didn't go in. You have quarters like that.

It's good that he's stepping up for his guys, but it ain't. So let me ask, I want to ask him, so what plays could you have called to make the ball go in? None. I've never heard of one. Like, you got a 100% play? Mm-hmm. Fuck, run it every time then, goddammit.

If it's 100%, there ain't no guarantees in it. I appreciate him for being his new coach and his first. So, yeah, cool. So, as our producers have pointed out in the previous regime, after a loss like this, Darvin Hamm probably would have said something along the lines of, that's a hell of a ball club over there. Yeah.

I mean, I don't know. To be honest, that's a good-ass statement, too. Is it? To be honest. We don't die by wins or losses. Yeah, absolutely. Lexi, do you like the accountability from J.J. Redick? Yeah, I mean, I think that's the right answer to say.

I don't particularly like when coaches throw their players under the bus in media. I don't think it's productive for the locker room, so I think that's a good sign for JJ that as a former player, he knows that. He knows how to keep the locker room intact. But this was like a super winnable game for them, despite Bron not having a great game. But that's a game that they absolutely could have and should have won. But yeah, he mentions the scoring,

and then he goes right to the defensive coverage. So he knows that it wasn't his play calling that cost him the game. It was KD and Book being such elite shot makers down the stretch. And that's a defensive thing. Lakers up 20 in the first quarter we knew it's Fugazi no I mean you know it's it's we're not worrying about the starters right the starters when you're talking about one through five one through five I mean they can say they're top without even thinking about the rest of the

lineup they can say they're top five with their starters yeah starting five is you know they're top without even thinking about the rest of the lineup. They can say they're top five. With their starters? Yeah, starting five. You know, they're top five. You know, you got every element. So if you look at the game, first and third quarter, they blow. They blow the Suns out. First and third quarter, it's that second and fourth.

When they got a sub in and then, you know, the offense is stagnant, right? They don't they don't know who's gonna go to who you know that's where the problem is right now or last night at least right it's that second and fourth quarter where they gotta um try to figure out the rotation there figure out what plays are gonna call um you know i think they scored what 14 in the second 22 in the fourth right and you're talking about in the first and the third, you're talking about 30 plus. So just trying to, you know, just understand the rotation. But, you know, taking the blame on yourself, it's cool, you know, media-wise,

so the media don't try to put a wedge between the team. Yeah. But it's always on the players. I don't care what any coach says. The players are out there playing. You can call whatever fucking play you want to call. If the players don't run it or forget it, it's their fault. You can call a great play.

It's only a great play if it's executed by the players. So, you know, it's always, you know, I didn't make shots today. I didn't make free throws today, you know. 13 for 18 from the free throw line. That's five free throws made. I mean, missed. We lost by four. You know, even with LeBron playing bad, you know,

he was playing bad in the first and in the third, and we was, shit, plus what, maybe 20-something? So Lakers scored 34 points in the first quarter, 14 second quarter, 35 points in the third quarter, 22 points in the fourth quarter. But in the first and third quarter, I believe they were... Plus 18? Plus 18, yes. Won both those quarters by nine points.

Lost the second quarter by 11. And then the Suns scored 33 in the fourth to the Lakers 22. I mean, I don't look at plus minus as like the end-all be-all, but when you look at the Lakers plus minus, their whole bench, they're all like minus double figures. And you cannot be that coming off the bench. And very limited minutes at that. They're going to have to figure out that bench situation.

I don't think anybody really understands, but when you think about championship teams, when you think about the Warriors championship, how great that bench was. When the Lakers was winning, how great that bench was. Spurs, how great that bench was, right? So, you know, it's...

Even Denver, right? They had solid pieces coming off the bench. You know, when you're talking about a starting five, you do got a sub at some point, right? So if you don't have a bench that can really push the lead or at least maintain whatever your lead is, you know, that's where you lose the game.

Because you got to play them top of the second. You got to play them even five minutes or four minutes in the second and five and four minutes in the fourth to start it off, right? That's where you can lose the game. That's where the game is, you know, won or lost. Yeah. So, like we pointed out,

Bronny previously unbeaten in his NBA career. 1-0. Gil, how does this loss affect Bronny's legacy? Not at all. It's not his loss. It's his father's loss. All right. It's not his loss. It's his father's loss. All right. It's on my daddy.

That's his father's loss. You know, when you're sitting there with that ride home, you got to smile. We won every game I played in. Yeah. Don't know about you, Bubs. Listen, listen. You know why it's funny? You know why it's funny?

I'm just fucking around. It's funny. It's because everybody else takes it too serious, right? They really take the Bronny, you know, playing or not playing very serious. And it's like, yo, relax, man. Right? He's the 55th pick. I mean, if it, like...

Please. I don't care what team he's on. Whatever's happening now with his father, no games, right? He ain't played in three games. Right? Yeah, and he's not going to play unless there's a? Yeah, and he's not gonna play unless there's a blowout. He ain't gonna play unless there's a blowout. Unless there's a blowout. Either way, man. So I'm pretty sure the first quarter,

he's sitting there like, yes, sir, and then he's sitting there like, aw, come on, man, I was gonna get in today. Dude, that man played in the first half of his very first NBA game. Man, you can't ask much, much more than that. Got a dub. I can tell you he was shitting bricks. What?

Locked up Ant Edwards. You got put in in a game where Anthony Edwards is in it? Whoa, where's the other 57 pick? Where he at? That's who I want to go against, and that's still nerve-wracking. Let me guard Nas Reed. He was undrafted. Shit, I don't want to guard him.

He's been playing for a couple years. You know what I'm saying, though? At least I got drafted. At least I got hit. At least I got hit. He didn't get drafted. You know, when they're shooting, you call them in, you start looking around. Who's up?

We got Anthony Edwards. We got, uh... I got you. Who is he guarding? Who is he guarding? Six, nine. Who is that? Left-handed shooter.

Oh, Ingles? Yeah, Ingles. He's sitting there like, uh... My man. The white boy. I got Ingles. I got... Give him the chump. I got the 38-year-old. Hey, man, so how you doing today?

It's slow feet. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You going to be right here, right? Cool, cool. I got you. But on a serious note, though, just for you guys, obviously won a lot of games in your career, lost a lot of games in your career. How much do losses impact you throughout the course of the season? Like, how much do they sit with you looking ahead?

And at what point do they start to become concerned? Like, how many of these are piled up? It depends on how you're losing games. So a game like that, obviously within range, kind of trick it off fourth quarter. Like, obviously, Braun is mad about that. Like, that game is going to piss him off. But there's 82 of them, so.

There's 82. I mean, this is tough. I mean, they're a veteran team, so it's like, you know, just shake it off, get back in the lab, be better the next game, right? AD's playing phenomenal, right? You know, Rui, everyone's playing phenomenal right you know Rui everyone's playing great right

you know we can't expect a 39 year old to be great every game you know it's just one of those games he wasn't great

and you know you know there's a chance they still could have won right and you know they had to face who on the other side

you got you know Money Sniper in you have Beal and you know playing you know, they had to face who on the other side? You got, you know, Money Sniper in. You have Beal and, you know, playing, you know, excellent basketball. So, you know, as much as he said we should have fired, you know, fire means, you know, trap or run at, you know, KD. You still got, you know, Booker over there. Yeah. He got 30.

Right? So, you know, you stop this one, you still got another one that's doing the same thing. So it was just one of those teams and one of those games where, you know, the fact that you held them to 110, 109, I mean, that's amazing in itself. So, you know, everyone should walk with their heads high, you know, get back to the lab and just, you know, you got another game.

So as we had mentioned earlier, LeBron extended his streak of 10-point games to an absurd 1226 consecutive games next closest player is MJ at 866 Carl Malone at 787 or cream excuse me at 787 and then Carl Malone at 575 Second place what even my feet or 266 consecutive games with 10 points because he retired Well consecutive games with 10 points. And that's because he retired? No, it includes Wizards. Wow. That's insane.

Wait, so when he retired, that don't count? He didn't play in the game, so I don't think... Okay, so when he came back, so it happened in the Wizards when he messed it up? Yeah, but he extended

a little bit more of that, too. So he was 39. Damn. So question for the couch. Does LeBron, in his career, on the streak, or do we ever see him tripped up trip up? And you think it'll happen this season if he does trip

He's gonna keep this street ten points in this NBA It's very easy. The only thing that stops don't even a bucket of quarter One basket per quarter because if you get hurt don't that's the only thing that stops the street if you get hurt, don't... That's the only thing that stops the streak. If you get hurt in the first quarter or some shit. Because it damn sure counts. That would be very unfortunate. I don't wish that.

Because I don't see... That doesn't happen, but I don't see him not ever scoring more than 10 points. It's like when what's-her-name got traded. Mikael Bridges. Played the 83. Yeah, his streak didn't because the team had a game

and he had to do the physical and all that shit. So they didn't count it against him. Okay. But they even figured it out.

Oh, MJ's was a real one. It was two for 10 against Indiana. Had six points. Damn. And then, wait, hold the fuck on. Is this Wizards? Yep, that was Wizards.

Okay. So he had six. Okay. And then went out and had 51-45. Was not happy after that. Jesus Christ, 45. Was not happy after that. Jesus Christ, dog. Like, you know what? I don't care what anyone say, man.

When y'all sitting here debating, there's just little things you got to look at in life just to show how great someone is. This man was drinking drinking smoking cigars Golfing and then decided to come back September when the season start back then was the end of September September like 26 25 29 like October 1st He came no no no, I mean preseason. Preseason, yeah. Training camp. He came back, what, the 25th.

Got in shape for the season. And then you talking about... Before that, you talking about 29, or 21, 23, 26, 28, 6, then go for 51, 45, 29. This man got so mad that he was held at six. Who's the 45 against? The 45 was against Charlotte.

And 51 was against Charlotte. And then New Jersey. 51 is Charlotte. What I'm saying is he got so mad that he shot. I think it was our little... No, you was the next game. You was the 45. I was the 45, yeah.

But think about it. He took 10 was the next game. You was the 45. I was the 45, yeah. He took 10 shots and then came back and shot 38 times. You know how in shape you guys be is, dog. This is crazy. That's a lot of shots. 38. Like, y'all, you'll get

this smoke. Oh, yeah, we knew it. 38 minutes. I can imagine the discourse that was going on. 38 minutes, 38 minutes, 37 minutes, 42 minutes, 40, 40. Come on. Mm-mm. Huh?

At that age. At that age. And then the very next year at 39, 40, he played all 82 games. You know the most shot attempts you had in a game? 37 against the Suns back in 2006 when you had that 54 piece. How hard is it to shoot 37 shots in a basketball game? That's not hard. No, no, no, no, don't let me trick you on that. It ain't hard.

You can get them up, right? It's actually being efficient. 37 kills? You know what I mean? I can be one for 37, trust me. You went 21 for 37 in that game. No, I know. I'll bust their ass. Don't worry about that. 37 shots

in our basketball game. That's crazy. When you're talking about the James Hardens, the Seth Currys, you're talking about KD, LeBron, Allen Iverson, Coles, even T-Mac.

Right now, you're talking about Luka. You're talking about SGA. Shit, probably Embiid is the only one that you really have to be in shape, like, to be able to sustain taking that many shots a night. Yeah, Tyrese Max shot that bitch 31 times, 32 times. I'm pretty sure he's leading the league in shot attempts. He is.

Maxie? Right, he's first. He is first right now. Oh, yeah, he put nothing. Y'all go ahead and chill. But think about it. He has to pick a role. He got to run a fast break.

Like, the man is going to be in shape to do that. Like, that's... You have to be... Like, to be a score at any level, you have to be in shape. High school,

to be a score, like, you're going to get double team, triple team. If you're the guard, you're going to be pressed, trapped. You've got to be in shape. That's the key thing to all success for an athlete, being in top-tier shape. Like Curry, top-tier. To run around all day, shape.

Yeah. 37 shots. I respect it, yeah. Yeah. 37 shots. I respect it, Gil. 37, that's the most? I would have thought it would have been more. I got two other play guys. I got Caron and Antoine. They ain't playing that shit. 37 shots.

So, Lakers four games this season. First two games, Bron, Lil' Shaky had that great game three against the Kings. Game four, probably his worst game of the season so far. He's previously said that he wants to play all 82 games this season if he can stay healthy. But what's the realistic number of games LeBron should play to put the Lakers in the best position to make a playoff run?

Because at some point, he's 39, about to be 40. Let's just be real. And if we watch starting five, we know he wasn't happy about the minutes restriction last year So he's not gonna do what Dwight Howard suggested in B should do play less minutes to play more games So what is that number that we think just looking at this squad obviously extremely small sample size at this point in the season ad playing the way he's playing 68

That's gonna say 70. I was going to say 70. 70. Yeah. 70. That was when I was like 12. I'm thinking about looking at his numbers. I'm like, well, he should be anywhere. He's going to make sure he's eligible for whatever the fuck he can get. He played at least 60. He played at least 65. Okay.

Yeah, that bench won't have to get it together, though. Because the minutes that that starting group is playing is insane. Like, if I'm him and I'm them, the Lakers, the first, you know, November, December, January, for the most part, I'm going to try to get as many games I can possibly get in. And then, you know, try to get us in a nice position, and then I can tail off at the end and miss games if I have to. And we've talked about that before.

Importance of getting off to a good start to give yourself that runway on the back end of the season to gear up, regroup. Anything can happen. I know what we're looking at with our eyes. We're looking at LeBron James, but you still have to consider that he is the age he is. He's not stopping father time.

He's slowing it down a little bit. But you can see it creeps in from here and there. He's on the upside of 39. There's only been Kareem in him for the most part. So you really got to just be mindful that he is 39 years old, and you got to be careful with the wear and tear. You still want him for the playoffs

if we're going to be any chance. Because if he go down or he can't play or these are the type of performances he's going to have in the playoffs, we have no shot of winning. We don't need him to have a triple-double in the fourth quarter. We don't need that shit. But just him giving us 20, 10, 7, 20, 5, shit, 17, 8.

We good. We're in good, especially if AD's playing the way AD's playing. What's a realistic number of games for Bronny to play this season? Realistically? Like 10. He'll play against probably... He'll get in against Portland a few times. Hopefully.

Hopefully. If they come in to play, Portland a few times. Toronto. Detroit. A couple times. Detroit, if we ain't... Detroit. Coming to play Portland a few times, Toronto a couple times, Detroit if we ain't, you know, Detroit. Who else out there?

The Spurs. They got Cleveland tomorrow. We ain't going to get in them Cleveland. I imagine you're going to see the floor. Spurs maybe. You know those games where you're going to blow them out, you're going to be up 18, 15 with five minutes left. You're going You get in. Oh, y'all gonna...

Y'all act like it's just gonna... See, y'all just wanna be naive and not speak... There's gonna be a few of them games where y'all on the other side of that thing. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know. I don't know. We might, you know, but, yeah, no, no, no. No, no, no.

Boston, maybe, you know, we might fuck around, you know, get our head beat in. One of those games. I got the two Celtics games that scheduled wins, no, no. No, no. Boston, maybe. You know, we might fuck around, you know, get our head beat in. One of those games. I got the two Celtics games that scheduled wins, Gil. Unfortunately, so scheduled wins. It might be a one and one. You know, he go down there, he plays well.

You know, New York, scheduled wins. LeBron always comes to show up in New York. He gonna play well in Miami. Shit, Cleveland. You're gonna. Like, so you got to think about some of those teams, but I'll say... Where you go? In one now?

There's going to be some shellac. 12 to 19 games. He's going to appear in. He'll appear in. He's spending time with the G League now, too. If he's spending time with the G League, then... Don't think so. And I'll tell you when they'll send him down to the G League.

They'll send him down to the G League when they go play, like, a Boston, Bucks, Philly, New York type of schedule, where it's like, these are going to all be some tough games. You're not going to get in. Just come down here, get some time and play. Right? But for the most part, you're going to try to keep them up as much as possible just so you can get the training, the playing, the professionalism.

Right? But that goes for everybody. That goes for all bench players. Right? That goes for everyone. Like some of these number ones and top five players, you know, you got Rob, you know, young Rob Dillingham. Like, right, he's sitting there like, yo, can we get some blowouts?

Come on, hurry up. I'm trying to get it. I'm trying to show the world what I can do. But that goes for everybody that's number 15, 14, 13. You're just waiting for a blowout so you can get the fuck in the game. Because practice don't matter. You can bust my ass and practice all day. That doesn't matter. You can bust my ass and practice all day. That doesn't matter.

The only time a coach is really going to evaluate you is in the game. And the only time I'm going to get in the game at being a second-round pick or a late first-round pick, shit, on some of these teams, is a top-five pick, is during the blowout, and they can put me in, and I can show what I can in five to three minutes. So we've spoken about the Lakers' need for another big man to help AD shift him over to four a little bit more. According to Yovan Buha from The Athletic, the Lakers are interested in Walker Kessler of the Utah Jazz.

So longtime NBA reporter Mark Stein says the Jazz were asking for two first-round picks for Kessler over the summer. Classic Danny Ainge move. Is Danny Ainge who you're negotiating with? He's going to make you run them pockets. Kessler finished third in rookie of the year voting just two seasons ago. Averages two and a half blocks per game in his career.

Will Walker Kessler be a good fit for the Lakers roster? Is he worth two first rounders? Seven foot. He's averaging 11.10 rebounds, I believe this season. Two first round picks. Who turned that down?

Who turned it down? Who turned what down? Who turned down to keep their two first round picks? That's just the reports of what the going rate was for him. That was just the reports of what the going rate was for him. That was the asking price? And the Lakers didn't see it? They need somebody.

Seven-footer. They need somebody. All right. Because I don't know if the Lakers know the draft history. Got some excellent value at the 55th pick this past summer. And the 17th pick with Dogs to Connect. Okay. A-plus grade on their draft this past summer.

Okay. Magic Jamesworthy. Mm. Right? Okay, then you got A.C. Green. Mm. Then you got Vlade Divac. I'm just trying to say all the picks that they... Then you got Vlade Divac I'm just trying to say all the depicts that they then you got your body Divac's at 26 you got Eldon Campbell cool quality

drafting and any pillar 15 George Lynch Nick Van Exel second round George Lynch Eddie Jones is their best pick since Magic Johnson. Oh, Julius Randle. Nick Van Exel, I'm going to be a little biased. Nick Van Exel, second round pick. You know what I mean? So you're talking about D'Angelo Russell, Brandon Ingram. So it's not like you keep the fucking picks. D'Angelo Russell, Brandon Ingram, Lonzo, all number two picks.

You're going to trade their asses anyway, I think is the point you're making. What I'm saying is you don't hold no value to your picks anyway. You're the Lakers. You have made your greatness through trades. You traded for Shaquille O'Neal. You traded for Kobe Bryant. You traded for Paul Gasol. You're trading for Shaquille O'Neal. You're trading for Kobe Bryant. You're trading for Paul Gasol. You're trading for Dwight.

Like all the superstars that's ever played, you're trading for LeBron James and a free agent, Andy Davis and a free agent. Your team is built on... Trading for AD. What I'm saying,

your team is built on, your legacy is built on what you do in trading, not what you draft. Yeah, you got Magic. You're trading for Kareem. Right? So you're talking about you can't get Kessler to take away some picks that's going to be what? 17 to 30 any motherfucking way?

Probably closer to 30 if I had to guess. This motherfucking dude. What I'm saying is, you acting like you're going to keep a top... There's nothing in your history that says you're going to keep your top five pick because you never have. Never have.

In the 80s, you did. In the 90s, moving forward, you got rid of them. You think JJ will be a coach that changes that? Because they are going to have to go into a rebuilding at some point. So you think JJ will be a coach that like changes that? Because they are gonna have to go into a rebuilding at some point. Mm-hmm. So you think JJ? I mean they have ad How long is brown gonna play forever? Especially but Bron is gonna for the next Ron. I have Ron for three years. So why would not trade? Why would not trade it out for Kessler and you get the next two number one pigs or?

First round pigs. Yeah, we're gonna be damn near playoff team. So that's better Why wouldn't I trade it out for Kessler and you get the next two number one picks? Or first round picks? Yeah. We're going to be damn near a playoff team, so that ain't going to be shit. Utah's in straight rebuild right now. You can make them protected. You can make one of them for, like, lottery protected. No. Utah's just looking for picks.

They'll do anything to get off the... Yeah, I'm not taking that. That is strange because Lakers are in a win-now type mentality and the Jazz are not. What did they give up for Donovan Mitchell again? Let me pull it up, Gil. Two Jazz Festival tickets that's not in Utah? An extra concubine. I don't know what the fuck did they give up for.

Because obviously it wasn't good enough to make the news, but they gave up something. What did they give up something. Right? What did they give up? Three first-round picks. Damn. Two first-round swaps. Yeah, I think Colin Sexton. Yeah, and marketing was the best play.

Oh, marketing. Yeah. Wait. Oh, yeah, they got rid of Donovan got marketing, right? That was really the main point. Okay, okay. So, you like the Walker-Caster trade. Give up those first.

As the kids say, fuck them picks. What do you need them for right now? Exactly. But we'll keep this moving to the other side of L.A., Inglewood to be exact. Kawhi Leonard's yet to play a game this season as he remains out indefinitely while rehabbing knee inflammation. But things took an interesting turn last week when Chris Haynes broke the news that Kawhi's personal trainer filed a lawsuit against the Clippers for wrongful termination, in part for raising concerns about the management of Kawhi's health issues. So according to allegations in the suit by Randy Shelton, who worked with Kawhi at San Diego State,

spent several years with him when he was with the Spurs, and joined the Clippers staff shortly after Kawhi joined the team in 2019, Shelton says when Kawhi suffered an ACL tear in his right knee in the second round of the playoffs in 2021, which required surgery in July of that year, the recovery target should have been 730 days, but the Clippers considered that timeline unacceptable. Shelton claimed that in a meeting in August of 2022, he met with Clippers medical staff and the team opted instead to use

load management for Kawhi with restricted minutes and no back-to-backs. So after missing the 21-22 season, Kawhi returned to the court in October of 2022, just 16 months after the ACL injury, continued to suffer setbacks that season. Shelton also accused the Clippers of tampering years prior to signing Kawhi. So Clippers released a statement in regards to the lawsuit, which in part said the following.

Mr. Shelton's claims were investigated and found to be without merit. We honored Mr. Shelton's claims were investigated and found to be without merit. We honored Mr. Shelton's employment contract and paid him in full. This lawsuit is a belated attempt to shake down the Clippers based on accusations that Mr. Shelton should know are false. So what's your reaction to the lawsuit from Kawhi's trainer alleging the team mismanaged Kawhi's injury? Well, good luck finding a job. Because, you know, at the end, I'm going to just be honest with you. I mean, you're making a lawsuit for Kawhi.

That's Kawhi's lawsuit. That's not your lawsuit. That is a Kawhi. They mismanaged my knee. Like, this has nothing to do with you, but you want to use it to sue that you got fired because of what...

How do you prove that? You got writing? They can just say you're just a horrible trainer. You know what I mean? And they paid you. He was horrible. He was putting this in. Like, that's... Ah. It's always L.A. Fitness. You can be L.A. Fitness trainer

because, I mean, I'm going to just be honest with you, man. Lawsuits like this... Lawsuits like this... Here's saying... You can be an Equinox trainer. You can be L.A. Fitness.

I mean, you... 24? I mean, you got bougie people at Equinox. Bally's? You got bougie people at Equinox. You go to Equinox, right? I do go to the L.A. Fitness. I bougie people at Equinox. Bally's? You got bougie people at Equinox. You go to Equinox, right?

I do go to the local Equinox. I am bougie. The next is nice. Right? It's just one of those lawsuits, man. You can't... Like, I get the... I get you tried to use the scare tactic.

But once you foul it and make it a thing, it's not a scare tactic anymore. Now you got to prove your claims. It's easier to get money by, you know, I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it and hopefully they pay you off. But once you do it,

you're just wasting your damn time. You're going to lose money on this because you got to hire a lawyer. You got to do all this. You're not going to win a case. And then you lost in you lost money There was a nice try But how do you prove that they were tampered with you got emails you got emails between

He claims he had a several conversations Really I don't care either way wait, what what was his role? I didn't know. That's the poor tampering. Did he work for the Clippers or he worked for Kawhi? He worked for the Clippers. They brought him on to the staff, but he was Kawhi's, I believe, trainer. What I'm saying is even if he's Kawhi's trainer and he's away and I'm the general manager and I call him to ask about how Kawhi's doing.

Yeah. It's not tampering. I'm a fan of tampering, as you know. I'm. Yeah. It's not tampering. I'm a fan of tampering, as you know. Well, I'm just saying it's not considered tampering. Well, you never, man, you never know, bro. I need to know what his knee's like. I mean, you're his personal trainer. But it just ain't solely about that.

But what about the claim just the recovery time? It was supposed to be closer to two years, and he was back out there in 16 months. Ain't that close to two years not close enough yes but who's i mean so i'm just saying i ain't that close but it's not but what i'm saying is so a doctor has to say this is what the doctor said they told the doctor right and then you still got kawaii right kawaii is a I mean, you know, he knows not to go on the court. He did it in San Antonio.

Right? History is just history. When he knew he wasn't ready, he didn't step on that court, so... But again, this is Kawhi's claim that I was supposed to blah, blah, blah. No, he did it wrong for termination. Huh? It's wrong for termination. But how do you... Now you got to prove that.

Yeah. You don't have to really prove it You said out of court. You just I mean I said out of court, huh? We set out of court right now for 250 Super wrongful termination if they if they pay you for your whole no Yeah, no, yeah, so future earnings see this is things wrongful termination if they pay you for your whole... No. Yeah. Future earnings. See, this is the thing. See, this is where the court of law comes into play and you got to read them fucking books

and it's future earnings and all this other shit that comes into play. Then they bring up now he got to pay for insurance and now what he was having. So all that. So it's... You never know, man. Is he future anything?

And they'll sell this shit just to make it go away. And that's what he's hoping on. Yeah. Well, Steve Ballmer got it. Steve Ballmer. Steve Ballmer. Whatever it is, get here. But who's to stop somebody else from shaking them down?

That'd be the thought. Well, let's talk about the Clipper and the General now without Kawhi, obviously. Before the season started, we were down on the squad. Didn't think they would necessarily be a playoff team. OKC has the ability to swap that pick. But 2-1 start this season. Only loss was to the Suns at home into a dumb home court advantage. But James Harden so far this season, 24 points,

league-leading 12 assists, 8 rebounds, taking 19 shots a game. Avita Zubak, who you weren't super high on, can you? I just said he's not a starting five. I ain't never said the kid didn't play. Okay. Jesus Christ. You weren't super high on him. Why?

Because I said he's not a starting five? He's not a top 30 big man in the league? I said he's not a, I don't think he's a starting five. It's just my opinion. Like, but I didn't say he didn't play. No, I didn't say he can't play. No, play no, but I've always said he's very serviceable Exceeding expectations. So yeah, don't for the night. That's crazy. He just said it kind of like when he says

So he's not top 30. You have to wait. Yeah. Yeah, he stopped 30 But he's still not Like like because I know what he means. Like, not on a good team. Yeah. Right? You know, any team from, you know, 25 on, yeah, he can start there. But any team that has a real shot is basically what he said.

Well, that's fair. Fair. Because that is a fair assessment right now. But has been starting the season, playing well, 23 league lead and 14. He said he fucking sucked. Yeah, yeah. I did not say that. Basically, 23 league lead and 14. You said he fucking sucked. I did not say that. Basically, motherfucker. Weren't super high on him.

In other words. In other words. I didn't say he was high boo-boo. In other words. He's serviceable. But over-performing. We can all admit that. Exceeding expectations. Exceeding expectations right now. We didn't expect him to come out and be averaging 23-14 at any point in the season.

But also Norman Powell averaging 25. So Clippers have somewhat of a big three. They got three people averaging 20-plus? But it's three games. They're two and one, though. Don't matter. Okay. We talked about the home court advantage of the end to a dome.

See the way this squad, kind of their young crew, is rallying behind each other. The problem is we know what their goal was. Their goal was to try to win a championship when they got Kawhi and PG. Yeah.

Right? We can just say they're way far removed from that idea. The playoff is their championship. So I'm thinking, you know, why we keep thinking that they're going to win a championship or be in that race?

Making the playoffs? They're capable. Winning the playoff round? Biggest possibility. That's all I'm getting at. Depending on who they match up with. You know what I mean? Just, yeah.

You know, they can take somebody to seven games, right, and be exciting. Even without Kawhi, you would hope at some point Kawhi would come back to the squad, but. If Kawhi come back, they can probably win that round. But beyond that. No, no. Can't come. No. On three.

Cabo, also a nice location. I mean, they don't have any depth. I mean, they have depth. They don't have any... They don't have experience all across the board to be very successful in the playoffs. Right? You know, it's like...

It's like Houston... It's like this... The Houston that we see today with a couple couple veteran players. Right? It's old and really young. And you point out they could be if Harden get to a shade of kind of

what he was with the Rockets, they could be a version of that Rockets Harden squad. And it seems like right now he's trying to average about 25 in lead the league in assists. Yeah. And you know, that's what it's looking like right now. And there's gonna be some games where, of course, you're gonna go for 40, but I think he's trying to stay

within that, like, 25 to 11, 12-assist range. For sure. And, Ken, what are your thoughts on the Clippers? Early in the season, two-on-one start, wins at, what, Golden State and Denver. Thought it was a big win, but... There's only one team that I... that really matters, that they won in two Thought it was a big win, but niggas. There's only one team that really matters that they're 1-2 right now is Philly

because they ain't got their players. I really don't care after three games. I'm just being blatantly honest, bro. It's three games. That's all we have, though. I feel, no, we're talking it out, but I... How many games until we can formulate actual opinions about games?

25. You said 25? 25. 25 games? I'm not putting 25. You said 25? 25. 25 games? I'll be like, ah, y'all going to be all right. Yeah, no, you can be all right, and then you still got to wait until, like, January, February, and see what team has that urgency after.

Yeah. Because obviously, you know, no offense, we looked great at the beginning of the season last year. Yeah. And won. And we struggled, and then we fighting and clawing the rest of the season. Yeah, and that's what it could be. So, for three games, I get it, what we're talking about and what we're seeing.

And Anthony Davis is playing great for his squad, which we expect him to do throughout the season, which a good start was needed in that regard Other team I really don't Focus on the Sixers. No, not even that. It's just it's three games, bro Like we got to get these lights. There's no week Good week It's just three games in a week I'm with it, it's just a week. Three games in a week.

I'm with it. But where we thought, because if that team would have got smacked by 20 in all three of those games. Doesn't matter. Just three games. I would have said the same thing. We would have looked at them and said. It's three games, bro. Let's relax here.

It's one of those things, you know, you just see, you're just looking at the potential of what a team can be. Right? You know, there's some teams that win games and you're like, you're going to struggle a little bit later. Right? Depends on how they look. Yeah, depending on how you look. You got to look at it and just be like, all right.

Because I just, so therefore, like I take Philly, right? I've been looking at them. Like, it looks bad. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. But I got to take into account they are missing two very important pieces. They're averaging 15 assists a night.

They're 30th in the league. You're missing the guy who gets all the assists. There you go. So things like that, I have to look at. And it's other systems. Okay, those guys are playing well. They need to play well right now. Other teams,

they really need to play well first 10 games out. They need that. So these first three games are very important to them. Other teams, not so much. The Sixers shouldn't worry. Like I said, the Boston Celtics, we knew we were going to hit the ground running. The Boston Celtics might run off 17 straight or some shit. You never know. You never know because they are seasoned, right?

They're last year. They didn't miss nothing. They have the chemistry that other teams are searching for already because they didn't replace anything. They played without

Porzingis last year, so that's not... Al Horford was already there on Porzingis, so they're not missing nothing. We expected them to hit the ground running. Yep.

Right? Even without Porzingis. Yeah? Even without Porzingis. Yeah, even without Porzingis. Other than that, it's like, all right, let's see what else everybody got. Right? Even with New York making a trade. We really don't know. Right?

Minnesota. Really didn't expect. Phoenix probably the other team we was like, y'all should fucking get off to a better start. Right? Other than that, it's like, all right, let's see. Let's see what these teams going to be. Right? And that's, it's like, all right, let's see. Let's see what these teams are going to be, right? And that's just where I approach it. I don't, like I said, it's not the NFL.

Yeah. 0-2, 0-3, NFL. 0-2, or like when the Ravens guys started 0-2, people was like, oh, shit. Man, are they going? Right, so it's that, right? Yeah, so you can start the season 0-3, 0-4. Not a big deal. It's not a big deal. Same way you can start 3-0, 4-0, 5-0.

And by January 1st, you sell them in 22. Right, you got off in 22. Right? You got off to a 5-0 start. This is fact. Yeah. They ain't won since October 31st, like some shit like that. Like, goddamn, it's February. Right?

Pistons. But it happens, so... The Pistons. Because there's too many games, man. I get it. You think 25. This is the saying to most sports. Early in the season, bad teams don't know they're bad.

I'm going to say that again. Bad teams don't know they're bad because everybody's record is 0-0 and it's a fresh, clean slate. You got young guys coming to the league, energy, new situations, energy, energetic, before injuries, all these things. So, you know. Real talk?

Like, there's only two teams that they should be starting to push the panic button right now. I don't give a fuck what they're talking about. Whatever speech they got inside their little meeting rooms in Denver and Bucks. Those two teams right now should be sitting there like, yo, what's going on? Yeah, okay. Because our core is here.

I'll give you that. Our core is here, I'll give you that. Our core's here and we're struggling. We don't have a superstar coming in that's messing up the rhythm. Our core's struggling and we have been playing teams that we're supposed to knock out.

That's a real thought. And we will talk about one of those teams shortly. We'll wait for Mr. B to come back to the couch before talking about Doc Rivers and the Milwaukee Bucks. You lost to the Bulls. And the Nets. And the Nets. Really? Yes. Like, you're 1-3, and you supposed,

as the team you have, you're supposed to be three at one. We didn't think you was going to be Boston. You got your one and two, or one A and one B. You got one A and one B. One B, yeah. You got one. You're not supposed to lose to the Bulls and the Nets. Not in the first week of the season.

Like, you're supposed to be three and O, and then you playing Boston with confidence. I forgot about Milwaukee. You're supposed to be playing with some confidence. Yeah, yeah. And take them down to the bricks. Like, you know, you lose 3-1. But being 1-3, not for you guys. I'm sorry.

Yeah, because you beat Philly, who is under man. They're in the same boat as them other teams. Yep. Without their stars, that's the same. That's it. They've lost everyone else. It's a little tough. a little shaky in the 414 But let's keep this to him. Look max. He's probably the best player that they played on those

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for the latest. All right, well, let's stay in the Western Conference. Hold on a second. I just laughed at something. You asked me if I had these in my closet already. Do you think I had these motherfuckers in my closet already like that, which like do you think I had these? I would agree to that you do got the barbecue fives No, we know you like to throw down I'm surprised you're able to find your side Wally World, baby.

Yeah. Hey. Look at these, man. They had some green ones that wasn't quite this. Yeah. Those are perfect. These are amazing. Are they comfortable?

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These are historic. Can't use grill shoes. But after a shaky preseason, Klay Thompson is fitting in quite well in Dallas. The Mavericks improved to 2-1 with a 110-102 win last night against the Jazz. Klay dropped 18 points on 7-15 from the field, including four threes made in the game.

So Kyrie led the Mavs with 23 points and nine assists. Lucas struggled from the field after his 40-piece, but he went 5-22, had 15 points, nine rebounds, and eight assists. So as for Klay, his signature hot shooting has translated to his new team. So as for Klay, his signature hot shooting has translated to his new team. According to Stat Mamba, his 15 threes made over his first three games are the most for a player joining a new team in NBA history. And he's shooting 46% from deep so far this season. K, your 15 threes?

Oh, no, but I just hate stats, man. Yeah. Stat for everything. I hate, I fucking hate this shit. Can we make a t-shirt, please? It is. He's made them. I get it.

Yes, congratulations. Yes. But it's just people that sit around and just pull these numbers out the fucking air. Like, let's go back in history and see who's made. Like, when you're trying to make something look a certain way. Yeah. Why is that? Because you have to.

So, it's. Somebody has made 14 before. Yeah. Or somebody made, like... I love the stats. But when they did 14, nobody knew about it. Nobody said anything, right? Yeah, nobody said...

So this is like... Like, when they're, like, 20 points, five rebounds, forces, like, just random numbers. It was random numbers, like... Shooting 37.5% from... Like... Fuck, man.

The Knicks did it with Mikael Bridges in his shooting and said he's the only person in the... He's one of three people to shoot, I think it was like 40-plus percent in the last six quarters. Like, it was just this weird, like, it was just something so weird, you're like,

what's the point? Like, what the fuck is this? Like, it was like, he was four for 10. The other two, 11 for 22, right? And then you had one who's only missed four threes. Like, he was like four for 18. I'm like, that's... They're not even the same. Like, you're dumbing down these people's stats to fit them in. Absolutely. For what?

What is the purpose? For a tweet. I forget. Just for a tweet, yeah. Just... Yeah, go ahead. Do your job. Just... Like, he's shooting 40% cool. Like... Yeah, sell me that shit. Can you have me reevaluate some things with my life? So, I may have to. Yeah, I just, like, you make 50 on this new team.

Like, oh. Duh. Just give us the good stats. We know Klay can shoot. Yeah, we... Klay's last game with the Warriors, though, 0 for 10. Preseason. He said, I thought it was a good...

It's a great stat. I don't think nobody will ask you, Steve. Like, so, if he hits... So, basically, does anybody know... Oh, how about this? Five... No, Gil, because you're going to ask some shit basically does anybody know how about this five no guilt because you're gonna ask some shit we don't know the answer to no i'm gonna like this is like okay so in the last three games right 15 is the most what's fourth game is it 15 so if he makes one

more do we already gonna put it out he's the only person in history like 16 over the first four games he's gonna keep adding? Yeah. Every game is a new... It's going to be a new record. It's a new record. Every game he plays for me or not, if you go by this, right? Why can't you just say, he's playing very well.

We didn't expect this shit. Let's just say that. Because you want to quantify it. Right, no, now everyone got to... 15-3. Take back all the shit they was talking about. Most of the players joining a new team in the first three games.

Man. I love when stats matter until you use it to someone who's already good. He's like, no, no, no, you can't use stats. How did it look? Like, get the fuck out of here. We are a narrative-based society. We can shift those however we want. But Klay, obviously, 0 for 10 his last game for the Warriors.

This preseason, he shot 24% from the field. Was 6 for 18 from three. Like I mentioned, he's shooting 46% from deep so far again. Three games, small sample size. Nothing to get overwhelmed by. But what has changed for Klay in Dallas so far? Are you surprised to see him clicking with the Mavs this quickly? No.

You're going to put your phone down. You see all them damn wide-open threes he's getting? I don't think he's seen wide-open shots like that in some time. Since he was on the team with Steph and KD. Yeah. The last time he got this, was this open and going to be this open, he played with two number ones. You're playing with two number ones now.

Mm-hmm. So you're going to be fucking wide open. And he's a marksman, so he's going to shoot the ball well. So this is no surprise. No surprise at all. Not to people that really know basketball and watch the game. I don't... P.J. Washington going to play better.

Everybody just, he's going to do what he do. I feel bad for Klay. Because he shot 38% from the three-point line last year. 43% from the field. 92% from the three. I mean, from the free throw line. 92% from the free throw line. And couldn't get his bread.

Average 18 points. Now, if you take his name off, if you take his name off of his stats. Paid. No question. Everybody. Lining up. Lining up. Give me him.

Put a silhouette with them stats behind this door right here. How much would you pay? Right? No age or nothing. Listen, no age, just his stats, his size. Six, seven, two, whatever, and his stats. Guaranteed. Every single team.

30, 40 million per year. Not even going to question it. Not at all. And the fact they made him seem like he... They acting like he... They acting like he was two for 58 from the field and had this horrible output. Like, this is the man who got benched.

And he probably got benched for a dude who averaged 5. Average 5 shooting 60%. Yeah, he's easy to shoot 60%. He's done took him seven shots the whole season. Well, you see who he got benched for is playing right now. Doesn't make no sense. That's when, that's when. Like, no shade to him. Not understanding basketball. you let someone go you let this big shade big shade

You left you left someone go and you benched me for him That he shows you he wasn't him when you bench me for him You let me go didn't want to sign me and you see what you got To the point where you had to go get someone else and you're pumping him up like he's them They're trying Buddy Hill is playing very well right now If he had clay stats coming in y'all to gave them in 120 hmm If Buddy Hill would have had clay's stats when he was a free agent...

Yeah. And that's... That become the problem, man. When you... When you write a player off, you don't look at his stats. You don't look at nothing. You look for what you want to look for. You don't even see what you want to see. Yeah, you... Like, ah, ah, ah. you like he shot for the mission I don't even look Like a LeBron hater he got stopped

No, he's 39 right? Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, you treat him like he's 25 Look at him. He's shooting these jumps. He's fadeaway terrible. He missed three free throws. He's trash. He ain't got six. Worst player in history.

That's what you do when you really don't like something. When you really want to make what he's doing irrelevant, you look at what you want to look at. Just like people who, I'm pretty sure Clay fans, you want him to show how great he's playing so you're pulling in stats. This is the only person in history

that's made, you know, 15 threes in the first three games. When you don't really need the stats, the motherfucker's playing well. How about that? Yeah, you mentioned Buddy Hill. He's averaging 19. Mentioned Buddy Hill.

Buddy Hill had 22 points in 15 minutes in the Warriors' season opener against the Blazers. 27 points in 20 minutes in their win against the Jazz. But only eight points against the Clippers. Five or seven in the first game from three, seven for nine. He's playing very well. What did he average last year? He hit 13 threes in his first three games the clay's 15

So if he makes every more and clay go over his next game so he's Buddy averaging 19 and 5 uh this season and 12 last year see is he averaging 19 and 5 and clay's averaging 19 and 7 right there i mean it's fair it's it's you know what i mean it's moving furniture i don't know that The problem wasn't Clay. The problem was, you know, mental. His mentality, like, come on, you're talking to a guy who's loyal to you. You didn't pay him.

So, you know, like, he's waking up fucked up. Like, they're acting like that doesn't happen. Well, and they not only didn't pay him, but then they started this weird narrative about him all season long, and then you put him on a bench. How about this? You know, if you really think you put him on a bench. How about this? You know, if you really think that the mental's not working, how about this? You go into

a fight, and I tell you, your wife is cheating on you right now. I guarantee you, you ain't focused. Either you gonna kill this dude, or you gonna get knocked out. Just the thought process. He is not really in front of you you you're thinking about right you're thinking about oh shit how long she been you thinking

about that that's what happens like yeah that's and that's bullshit on steve kirk behalf because it's it's the media asking you questions in your post-game press conferences and pre-game about the man shooting and you's answering. You answering. Like, all your answers should have been is, man, Clay's

a part of this, he's been a part of this, and gonna be a part of this. That's all your answers fucking should have been. Mm-hmm. Right? Hey, the mechanics look fine to me. The shot look fine to me. It's just not falling in. Hey, we might need to check the rim.

Make sure it is, you know... Sorry, Steve Kerr. Steve Kerr has shown his ass the last year. Mm. I would have had a measurement up there, chicken. Yeah, yeah. Is the rim okay? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, Clay, this was good tonight.

I would have made it, you know. Order two new ones today. We need two new ones. Two new ones. Bernies. Yeah, we might have to go back to the Oakland Arena. He might not like this arena. You know what I mean?

Every opportunity he had to uplift Clay, he did the opposite. Total opposite. Yeah. And just a fun fact on Buddy Hill real quick, since I know you guys care. Got his nickname from his mother after Bud Bundy from Married With Children. Ah.

I thought his name was Buddy the whole time. Oh. Wasn't that his name? No, like, Trevano or something is his first real name. Oh. So you thought... I thought his name was Buddy. Hey, I'm a simple man.

I didn't think his name was Buddy. And what's so funny is I didn't... I got basketball skills. I'ma just be honest with you. I didn't even question the name Buddy. I didn't hear so many fucked- was a funny side basketball. I'm gonna just be honest. Can you I didn't even question a name buddy? So many fucked-up names and just buddy you Course it flows. It's a nice little name. My name is Gilbert

Yes, my daddy gave it I might choose buddy over number. I'll take buddy. Buddy Arenas. Had a conversation with a gentleman the other night. I went to dinner the other night. One of my neighbors, he invited me because they was going to dinner. And my neighbor know the guy he's going with.

He's like, you guys don't think past fucking nothing. Mm-hmm. Very good-looking and intelligent. And... Okay. And the dude, like, told me the man's name was Bob. And introduced him as Bob. And when he got ready, he said, yo, he come in and said, Bob is on his way in.

I looked at him in my exact words. Like, are you sure his name's not Robert? He said, no, I don't think so. I think it's Bob. I said, Bob a rough name, though. For you to name your kid Bob, just Bob. That's a rough name. He came in and he said,

he said, is your name Robert by chance? He said, of course. He's like, it's tough. He said, my family call me Bobby. My dad goes by Bobby, he call me Bobby, but it's like... Bob. Bob is a tough name for you to name somebody.

It's like, you meet somebody, he introduce himself as Dick. You're like, no, your fucking name is Richard. It's like, you meet somebody, you introduce yourself as Dick, you're not, no, your fucking name is Richard. It's like, ain't nobody just going to name

their child, you know what, your name is going to be Dick. Can someone explain that? My problem is, I never understood it. Do we understand

why that name? Where does Robert and Bob connect? I have, like, Where does Richard and Dick connect? Like, how does that work? Let's do the research on it.

I have no idea. Joe, please. But I knew this from my head coach in college, huh? People call him Bob Huggins. His fucking name is Robert Huggins Yeah, that makes more sense than the rock no one rich and the dick and Richard thing is so where did that come from? I've always wondered that huh? William and Bill same shit. Where does you gotta well?, how did you? Well, how did that, yeah.

I had to have no idea. I thought the nickname was supposed to be part of the name. Like these niggas is rappers? One for the king, one for the king. Yeah, like it's like they already do it. Drop it in the box. Like they doing rapper names, like it just doesn't make sense sometimes.

Yeah, but it's that like. Didn't know we were going to talk about Dick. Gil's arena. Funny shit is, there was a name refused Antonio Daniels refused to call Grady Dick by his name. It's the funniest shit ever when he does the games. Antonio Daniels. Grady Phallus. No, he called him Grady Richard. It's the

funniest. He called him Grady Richard? He called him Grady Richard. Grady Richard, father, he refused that I'm not calling that man. By his name? By his government We did a informal chat with our poll. We said What name would you rather have we did a full buddy or Gilbert You know, buddy, but I pick my 70% pick buddy. I think buddy to over Gilbert buddy arena That's just sounds they're just written buddy arenas

buddy, but It sounds like it's written Buddy Arenas. Gilbert. Buddy. Bud. B-Dawg. You're one of 17 remaining Gilbert's. B-Dawg. I don't know. Speaking of your name, did you ever inquire? Like why, how, when? Tell them what the other name was supposed to be. Yeah, so I guess back then they were simple-minded.

Like, it runs in the family. There was only a few names they went by. It was Gilbert. Well, I mean, Gilbert, so they just dropped the O. Right? Hippolyto. Mario. Juan.

What the fuck is a regular name? Because it's Cuban. Yeah. So I'm like, just these are names, huh? You didn't hear no other name moving in school. It was like, that sounds cool for when I get a kid. Could have just called me Junior. That was a name, too.

And I'm pretty sure that wasn't his real name. They just called him Junior, Uncle Junior. Yeah, I have Uncle Junior as my family name. Yeah, is that his real name? No. Because I'm pretty sure Junior is not a, like Junior. Yeah, is that his real name? No. Because I'm pretty sure Junior's not a... Like, Junior Seau, was Junior his real name? No. Okay, see, I'm done.

Gilbert. He could have called me Hennessy. I would have just... I would have went with that, right? Junior Seau's real name, what, Tiana? Tiana? I don't even know. I ain't going to offend nobody, so we'll keep it moving.

Give me a pronunciation Steve So yeah our producer would like you know gives not too late for you to change your name only cost about 450 dollars on average We could let the chat pick a name for you All right, well, let's keep this moving. There were 11 games. Ocho. Here we go. Zero. Agent Zero. Agent Zero. Fucking Chad, yeah. Which, he changed it.

And that has, does definitely not mean 85. Ocho Cinco. That definitely doesn't mean 85. Which makes that even better. 85. Ocho Cinco. Wait, wait, so how do you say 85? Ochenta y Cinco. Ochenta. Ochenta y Cinco. Ochenta y Cinco. They father's think oh wait wait, so how do you say 85? 8080

85 or Jean that easy 80 and 5 His name and so it just ate 5 yes. Yes 8 5 8 5 8-5. It cut glass, though. Yeah, for him, it's 6. 8-5. For him, it's 6. Absolutely. So, 11 games around the NBA last night, but we got to show some love to a few guys that balled out with hibachi time. Paolo, Paolo.

We throwing some things on the grill. I know we're grilling a little bit if y'all want to pull up in the chat. So Magic All-Star Paolo Banchero balled out on Monday, dropping a career-high 50 points, including 37 in the first half. We have some highlights for you to check out. Here they are. Like I said, first 50-piece in the league this season.

37 in the first half 13 boys he likes 610 saying like he's a matchup nightmare you should play a little quarterback in high school see I can got maybe 40 of them points in his face. Paolo had a career-high 50 points, 37 in the first half, 13 boards, 9 dimes, and a win over the Pacers. Obviously one assist shy of messing around and dropping that triple-double. 50-piece was the first in the NBA this season, and at just 21 years old, Paolo is the youngest Magic player to ever drop 50, breaking Shaq's franchise record. Shaq dropped 53 at age 22 in 1994. I know you don't care, you don't like stats, but nonetheless. That's a good one.

It's a good stat. That's a good life stat. That's a real one. If y'all like stats, it'd be a good one. You ain't got to search the Google for that one. Yeah, you ain't too hard to find. Also the first Magic player to score 50 since Hall of Famer Tracy McGrady had 62 back in April of 2004 Yeah, you remember that. Yeah, I remember I was mmm-hmm

Witnessed it he gave you all 62 of those. Mm-hmm. See that's this honorable man right here He said what so he gave you all 62 y'all really you said no they gave you something. Mm-hmm Cut the clip drop it online, that's it. Edit it out right before that. But through his first four games this season, Kylo's averaging 29. Y'all, I'm on one today. No, no, no, because now when you said that,

cut it right there and move on, now it makes me think of the Dwayne Wade because the only thing we say is, who is this guy? Cut. Like when you think about all the clips, it's just, man, who is this guy? It's crazy.

Like, so that's... With that face. That's that... God bless the Internet. As you know, the Internet will do what they want. Who's that guy? I saw that. That was one of the first things I saw after it was printed.

It was like, internet ain't shit. Wait, because somebody posted the picture of the lob play with him and Bron, and they put the face on it. And I was like, I don't get it. Yeah, yeah. And then researched, and I was like, oh, wow. Wow. Then there's photos of him actually looking at the face before it was Bron's or whatever

and having no problem with it. Like, oh, okay. At that point, it's like... It looked a little thinner around the jawline. I don't know if they just added padding that went at the finish line. I mean... But just why did they choose that facial expression?

Like, I don't... Why do they always choose something that's in action? Just do the face. Just do the face. Find a little... Media day. Media day picture. Exactly. Like, why do they have to make it an iconic pose? Just make the face. Just do the face. Find a little... Media day. Media day picture. Exactly.

Like, why do they have to make it an iconic pose? Just make the pose. Do this. With a fucking ball and your hand on your hip. Yeah, keep it simple. Yeah, that one. Don't do that. No.

All mouths closed, dog. It never plays well. Never. Please. But let's get back to... Enough. Sorry. So in regards

to the way statue, he said, if I wanted it to look like me, I'd just stand outside the arena and y'all could take photos. It don't need

to look like me. It's the artistic version of a moment that happened that we're trying to cement. So D-Wade is not... I told y'all, keep fucking with D-Wade and see what happens.

I'll get us a statue and, you know, I think they should take a picture of it now and see if it changes in the next year or so. Don't say nothing. More lies forever. Wait for a road trip, come back, have a thing, good to go.

Storming outside in the middle of a hurricane, they have to change that bitch out. Ain't nobody outside, nobody on the road. Perfect time. So through the first four games this season, Paolo Banchero's averaging 29 points, nine rebounds, six assists, shooting 48% from the field, 39% from deep. Again, notice extremely small sample size. But did Paolo's performance change how you look at this Magic squad? You may recall this summer, he said that he thought this team could be one of the best

in the East, potentially even taking the East. But when you look at this Magic team, with Paolo in his third year now, no love for the Magic, seriously. No, to be honest, I don't think anybody watches the Magics for the team. We're watching him. Let's just be honest. The jerseys? I mean, it's a nice little jersey. You got four other players out there that's doing their part to help them out.

But, you know, no difference when, you know, Tracy McGrady was there. You're watching just the one guy. He is taking the next step to show that, you know, he's coming. You know, he's going to be, you know, pushing for, you know, all-star, of course, all-NBA player, you know, he's going to be, you know, pushing for, you know, all-star, of course, all-NBA player, you know, and something to be reckoned with, you know, in the Eastern Conference. You know, their team itself being a factor now? No. Three years from now, they keep everybody intact and they start, you know, making progress as a unit. Yeah, three years from now, two years from now.

They're earliest, but this year, no, they're all still too young. This is individual development, just gaining confidence. Do you feel like this is a solid regular season team, though? Got a lot of young players on there, a lot of young talent. Paoloolo Franz Wagner Jalen sucks Fifth in the East last year. I don't want to play off series this year fifth

Or four. Yeah Maybe three I don't think I think three might be there The ceiling yeah, you think if they played very very very well, they I can go to three. Yeah. You think if they played very, very, very well, they can go to three? Yeah. Boston, Philly, between them and New York? Well, from three to six. Yeah. Three is the best. I mean, they out there.

Yeah. They're cooking. They're going to defend. Jamal go out and play defense. They're going to defend. So it's a possibility, man. Just to Gil's point, they're still young. The man KCP helps.

But your core of guys are still really young. So we all know winning and winning in the playoffs is a learned behavior that they haven't learned yet. You made it last year. Could have went either way, series against Cleveland. If you have home court, everybody thinks you probably win that series.

So you're right there. And if you four this year and get home court, there's a chance you win a series or there's a chance the same thing happens. You let a team come on your home floor and get a game because you're still young. So all those things exist still. But good coaching staff will help you get a game or two when you need it.

13-win improvement on the previous season. I think they had 34 in Apollo's rookie year, 47 last year. Yeah, no, they're going to win 50 games this year. Well, 50 games last year in the East was good enough for second. Yeah, so they'll win 50 games this year. High 40s, 50 games. High 40s, yeah. Like, yeah, right around that.

And if they win 55 games, it's like, oh, shit. Right? But it'd be one of those teams where it's 55, but it's Memphis. Yeah. 55, and it's Sacramento, and they're playing Golden State, right? You know, there's just going to be match-ups that...

Your second round or whatever, the first round. First round, you end up playing a team that was hurt all year. You play, you know, Philly. Let's say Philly fuck around and be six and you three. Or you fuck Milwaukee. I'm just saying. Milwaukee or Philly fuck around and be three, or the Knicks is three and you're like, oh, shit.

Or six or three, either way it it go right? It's a horrible match It's a horrible matchup for you now you wanna you you want to play? cash Like that's that's you want to play cat you don't even want to play you don't even want to play damn near Miami You don't want to play a team like that in the playoffs like calves like you can go against him a couple times Until you get your feet wet. It's like sparring. That is a great opponent

for them. To get ready for a real... Yeah. Chad's saying they're showing similar to the Thunders in terms of being a young squad. We saw what the Thunder did last year. Obviously, you pointed out they still weren't ready to make that jump. I don't think the Magic are anywhere near what the Thunder did last year. Obviously, you point out they still weren't ready to make that jump. I don't think the Magic are anywhere near

what the Thunder could be, but potential. Let me show you why they're not on the same trajectory as the Thunder. There's little things that they don't do that Thunder do. Can you pull that film back up? Can we get that pal up? It's that first play. Right there.

Stop it. No one's moving. Stop. Okay, never mind. Go back to the beginning of it, please. It says no one's moving. Go back all the way to the beginning. Okay.

Go back. Keep going. I want to count the dribbles. Yeah, so you count the dribbles, then we'll go. Go. One. Two. Two. Three.

Four. Five. Six. All right, so six dribbles. Now, rewind it from the beginning. It's a pruder. All right, right here. Right? Stop it right here.

Okay, the difference between OKC and where the magic is right now is KCP. Is that KCP on the right? Yeah. That guy would have slashed. Right? You know Apollo want to go right. He's going to dive so that defender's not there. So at this moment in time, if you're, that's Miles, right?

You can push him on him. He can't go nowhere. His team is playing defense also. So right now, whoever the dude is that, like, who is that? I don't even know who this is. Which one? On his left side at the top. That sucks.

No, that sucks in the corner. This guy just in the middle, just he's. Carter. Carter, and you're in no man's land. Oh, that's Wendell Carter. Like, if I pass it to you, you're not going to shoot that. This is not, right? So the fact that you're there, it's just a defensive play now.

You're supposed to be in the dunker. Yeah, you should already be gone. You should have hustled already been out of there. Yeah. Right? So right now, your man is playing defense, and I can't even pass you the ball. He's playing three on one right now. Right?

Those are the little things in the playoffs that you're going to... You have to understand as a teammate, cut off the line so those plays is easier for him. And I want to point something else out. That Jalen Suggs is fucking 23 years old and that sunroof wide open. Sunroof wide open. I can see it too.

Wide the fuck open. He has had a stressful life, Kenny. No, he ain't been that stressful. Played football. He got the fuck open. Whoo. He has had a stressful life. Can't know him been a stress play football He got the football helmet They watch film Leave him alone Hell no save it going home young man Just wanted all real or one some he 23. He's six months younger than KJ But my son same age as my son I

Said go the opposite get the jerry curl weave You know that thing listen he is literally by March He gonna lose more by March and it's gonna By this time next year. It's gonna be wide open All the way. Skin, like, scalp open. But these are the plays, Dawgs,

like, to be honest. These are the plays that, like, Apollo's going to take it, but you can see he has nowhere to go. He got nowhere to go. This is the difference between, like, a good team and a great team. A great team is cutting like if if

that was drew holiday right drew holiday is back cutting their white they're white they're back cut that's the difference between two teams so he only took six dribbles let me just he only took six because he had no way he had nowhere to get he had to take six he had to take six in this moment when he could it could have just been like if those guys were gone, right, and someone slashed, it would have been one or two dribbles past Miles, and he would have been, you know, making that layup. Yeah.

That's what I said. The only thing that's making him dribble is he can't get the angle. Yeah, because his rhythm was going to be boom, boom to shot, and he's like, oh, I can't go. Move. Yeah. So those are the things, like, that's why I said, like, when you're talking about OKC and Magic,

the difference is the OKC players know the when to cut, how to cut, to make it easier. That's the difference. It has nothing to do with the talent. The difference is these guys that's winning more games is just these little plays. So let's just talk. Like, they play hard on defense. It's the offense where they need to understand that.

When someone's trying to, you know, go, go, just get out of there. So let's talk a little about Paolo. Paolo, rookie of the year, year one, all-star year two. Do you feel like he can emerge as an all-NBA level player year three? Yeah. Yes. He has the ability to do so. They top, yeah. They're in the East. the ability to do so. They top, yeah.

They're in the East. Top three, top four. Top four. Top, yeah. So we asked a chat, can Magic be a top three team in the East this season? 52% said yes, 48% not rolling. Uh-oh.

Let's talk about another team in the East. We give the Boston Celtics superstars love all the time on this program, mostly against our will. But we want to shout out superstars love all the time on this program, mostly against our will, but we want to shout out their sixth man, Peyton Pritchard, for his big performance and a quality win over the Milwaukee Bucks. Last night, shout out P-Rabbit, Oregon's finest. Pritchard dropped 28 points off the bench, including eight made threes. Tied a Celtics record for most threes off the bench. Record set by NBA champion Eddie House back in 2009, another legend.

Eight threes off the bench? Off the bench, yeah. And couldn't make one when they needed one to break the record. And then as he's become the staple of his career, this late game buzzer beating three. Late game three, the end of the quarter, yes. Doc Rivers perplexed on the sideline. Exhausted.

He tired already. He tired already. I need a vacation. Give that cameraman a raise, please. But obviously Pritchard, hard working, one of the hardest working dudes in the league. Been like that since he was very young. Is Peyton Pritchard a sneaky six-man-of-the-year candidate for the Celtics?

Lexi, you are a resident Celtics fan. I mean, he's not sneaky anymore. There's no sneaky about him? His green light is crazy. Very well spoken. Yeah. I love Peyton Pritchard. I love him since last season.

And he knows his role. He does it well. So, yeah. You know I'm rolling with the Celtics. I want them role. He does it well. So, yeah. You know I'm rolling with Celtics. I want them to win all of the awards. All of them. And another championship. Okay.

Yeah. Those are things that you want. Giving back to back. It's your birthday week, so we will honor and respect. It's giving back to back. Those wishes. Say something nice. No, no, no, I'm just, I'm... He's a very nice player.

Say something nice. Is he a free agent? Let me double check for you. No, because... You're always trying to stump the Schwab. A lot of these bench shooting... Now, he's under contract through 2028. Oh, good. What, he signed last year good. Now he's under contract through 2028.

Oh, good. What, he signed last year? Well, he signed an extension, yeah. Oh, okay. He knows where home is. Mm. Yeah. Probably very well embraced in that market.

Yeah, that's a... He is the bench, basically. Yeah. Yeah. Until Porzingis comes back. Until Porzingis comes back. Yeah. Or for the fact that it's really strong. Great shooting, I mean. Yeah. Until Porzingis comes back. Until Porzingis comes back, yeah.

Great shooting, I mean. Which I think who else could be sitting there? I mean, he's a scorer, so, I mean, you know, when he comes in a game, I mean, it's just... I mean, his history... Him and Sam Houser, I think, obviously too big. I mean, his history shows he can put the ball in the basket. So, you know, anytime he get on the court, I mean, he has the ultra green light. You got to treat him like the starter. So you're going to shoot it.

Back media day, Jalen Brown said one of the benefits of this Celtics squad was allowing the bench to eat against lesser teams. He used the Pistons as a reference when he made those comments. But did we ever expect that the Bucs would be one of those lesser teams in the East that their bench could be able to... No, we did not. I want to think about Doc Rivers already. Game 4, I'm thinking about that golf course.

It's just bad over there. It's just bad over there. It's just bad over there. And the best part about it is, I know Doc is like, well, you can't fire me. I mean, you can, but you can't. You know how horrible that'd look? That'd be so horrible that you fire me and get another coach and now there's four of us?

Like, you know what I mean? If they did fire Doc, Dar Darvin him waiting in the wings Yeah, that's a worse. I Don't know man. I mean they got a lot of things that's going on over there and you know, I don't know if I don't know if they know what's best for the team. Right? I mean, you only got a couple more games before, you know,

Giannis' brother. You're going to have to go ahead. Go ahead and bring him in. You know what I mean? It may take more than one brother. I'm just saying, we start going like 0 and 3, 0 and 4, 0 and 7. We do one of those, you know, 3 out of 10. I already know what the Greek is talking about.

I know he's going to be saying stuff that I just can't address. So I might as well go ahead and bring his brother in. Stuff like what, Gio? Well, because Giannis, he, like, doesn't, it doesn't seem like he takes, like, media very serious at all, so he just, like, says things. And everyone's like, oh, it's Giannis.

Like, San Francisco would be a nice city to live in. Yeah, like, he just says weird things, and people think he's joking, but there's a little bit of truth behind some of the little jokey jokes he makes. And he's been doing it for a minute now. He understands his power. Yeah. He knows

like, hey, if I ain't happy, you know, I got to think about trading me. Like, he for someone that's... I might get traded. I mean, for real, like, he really, you know, holds the gun to the organization when he uses his power very well.

Because, you know, we are talking about, you know, Milwaukee. And, you know, after they won that championship, if it was up to them, if it was up to them, it'd be him and just a whole bunch of other players that just don't... They be looking like the old Clippers. I got one star who gonna fill a building, everybody else get in where you fit in. Yeah. Mr. B not here to defend the Bucs against this onslaught.

Oh, he in the chat. Mr. B has... Yeah, he in the chat, he said,. Hesse. Yeah, he in the chat. He said, where does Kenyon, when does Kenyon want to go eat? And I'm just... Yeah, Mr. B. in the chat, he got... He, I had him quit Madden today. Early this morning.

Yeah, y'all was up, yes. We be up like 5. 5.30, talking about playing video games, man. I just left the gym. I'm looking at the time, I'm like, dude. Go to sleep. 6 a.m. talking about video games.

Video games. 6 a.m. You'd be up early and we'd still respect you for being able to make it all the way downstairs. Late. Last person on the couch. Last person. Every single day.

But we know you're here. Yeah, yeah. Everybody's thinking you're somewhere. You're somewhere. You're somewhere. This is your spot. Well, let's keep it moving. You guys talked about the Nuggets earlier.

Very briefly, let's get back into it. We got to show some love to the reigning MVP, Nikola Jokic. Dropped 40 points and 10 rebounds in an overtime win over the Raptors last night. And the fact that I got to say an overtime win over the Raptors should be some cause for concern for people in Denver. That's now back-to-back 40 pieces for Jokic. No other player has done that so far in the early going this season. It's also the first time Jokic has ever done that in his career, regular season or playoffs. So last night's 40 was needed as it led to the Nuggets' first win of the season. So, so far this year, the Nuggets

have a 116.1 offensive rating when Joker is on the floor. but that number drops to 66.7 when he's on the bench. And I'm sure Yaki Poto, gonna need him a couple days to recover. Spinning boy. Right. Has he done that? I don't think I've ever seen him spin that much. So, Shokur switch up his style. Spinning his way into our hearts.

Right. I mean, he a real mobile out there So yo kids switch up his style lean into his scoring due to the rock the nugget roster construction this nearly Barely one was is that a good thing or a bad thing? This is what it is a good thing if they win It's a really good thing if they winning, so... I don't know. You said, what is this... What is this stats? What is the stats? So, Nuggets has... When he's off.

So, 116.1 offensive rating when he's on the floor. 66.7 offensive rating when he is not on the court so far this season. Oh, my God. I mean, when your offense go through him scoring and passing the ball, that makes sense, right? You know, the offense is him, right? You know, scoring or, you know, passing everybody the ball. These guys is like, you know, fucking animals in a cage.

They're so used to being, you know, fed that they don't know how to hunt, you know, when he's off the court. You know, they probably just sitting there when he's off the court just looking, yo, when he coming back in so we can... So we can score. We can get the score.

And, you know, and that's what it looks like. Because if he starts scoring more, he's going to be passing less. Then what does that mean for the rest of them? As long as they result in the wins, I don't care how they get them. I'm pretty sure they don't care how they get them. Jamal Murray's slow start this season has had some slow starts in his Nuggets career.

Rough Olympics, though. But we've talked before, Nuggets have their top four locked up through 2027 and Joker, Jamal Murray, MPJ, Aaron Gordon, who just got that extension. Won the chip. That's a problem. I mean, they got a solid four. They got a solid five. I mean, it just...

It's like they don't have... They don't have as many spacers as they had before. So who did they have before that was spacers? KCP. Besides KCP that left? Um, Brown. Still there? He's still there. Bruce Brown? No. Bruce Brown. Oh, Bruce Brown. Christian Brown's still there.

No, Christian Brown, but Bruce Brown. He wasn't a spacer. He shot a there. Bruce Brown? No, Bruce Brown. Oh, Bruce Brown. Christian Brown's still there. No, Christian Brown, but Bruce Brown. He wasn't a spacer. He shot a ball? No, fucking slashing. Man, he was 6'4", playing the four. I thought he was a shooter. Hell no, Bruce Brown wasn't. He was a damn shooter.

Let's see. Elite role player. Yeah, he was that. He wasn't no damn shooter. Elite role player. He shot 36 from three, three attempts. I'm just... Three attempts a game and 36%. He's no damn shooter. Lead role player. He shot 36 from three attempts. I'm just... Three attempts a game at 36%.

He's not a shooter. He was a scorer though, right? No, he's a... He's Josh Hart. He's six-fold playing the fold. Average 12 and four for the Nuggets in that season. Shit. Six-fold playing the fold.

You know, no, this is what... KCP was the shooter, but he... This is what ends up happening. Think about who's coming off the bench, right? You got people who are decent coming off the bench. They never develop their bench. So when these guys like Peyton Watson and all these guys come to age, they don't have the experience. Yes. So now this is basically like their rookie year.

Right? They show glimpses of how good they could be, but you never gave them the real time for them to be usable right now. So now they don't have the bench to support the starting five. Yeah. Like, just like the starting five is fine. But you talk about Christian Brown down the belt to a starter, started all three games of the season playing 34 minutes a game.

He was a great person off the bench. There was somebody in front of him, and he was a great guy coming off the bench. Now he's a starter. Peyton Watson only playing 14 minutes a game so far this season. And he was a guy that was supposed to be a real key factor to moving forward, and he hasn't even gotten any opportunities to be that guy like he was he was an elite player yeah then strother seeing some more minutes get out of gonzaga this season as well but it's and then russell was bro game fitting yeah i'm

saying kcp was an important piece but it, like, you didn't lose that much. You just didn't develop the guys that you had because you... So it's... So, Kane, yesterday you had a T-shirt with a gentleman on a horse in there who used to coach the Nuggets back in the day. This summer, that gentleman said that

he didn't feel the Nuggets were doing enough to support Jokic and keep a championship-level team around him. Yeah. Do you agree with that? Yeah. I mean, you got that, obviously, that core four locked in. Yeah.

You got Christian Brown, who's a young talent, but that bench looks a little shaky. He brought in Russell Westbrook. Westbrook struggled so far in his first three games. Nuggets fans not particularly happy about what he's bringing early on in the season. Go ahead. What is he... What do you... It's just like the Knicks, right?

You bring a player in, but your offense doesn't... Isn't suitable. Like, you know what he is, so it's... You got him at the two, you spot him shooting guard. See, I thought they were going to pull... Obviously, it doesn't come out of the game often, but if you're going to bring in a player like Russell Westbrook,

I thought they would try to at least adjust a little bit to his style of play while he was in the game. But it's hard to do that with Jokicic because Westbrook is very ball-dominant and can't shoot. He wants to come downhill. That's what I said. You come downhill, that's when you have a bunch of shooters on the court. Yeah.

It's like he averaged triple-doubles. Did you see the teams he was on when he was averaging those assists? Right? You can't really name anybody who was passing the ball to, but obviously he was passing the ball to somebody. But those guys would just put it in, hit a shot, hit a shot here and there. You got to put guys, like if you're going to use him in the second unit, there has to be guys that could benefit how his style is yeah there's ain't no you know you can't

run your your yokich offense while he's on there pass the ball everybody sit around and he do his thing and then pass it to him what you think you're gonna do you're gonna jump right to where yokich is you want him shooting the threes like i mean you know he gonna take him because he feels he can shoot him but that's not his strength. His strength is using his athleticism, using that engine, coming downhill, getting to the lane. That's what he's great at. Yeah. If he can't do that, just put the ball boy in.

Fuck it. Put the ball boy in. At least I know he's chugging because I can see him. Just, all right, there you go. Hey, man, can you rebound instead of shooting your shot? Yeah. You got to tell them, right? Three-fourth time.

Hey, hey, hey, hey, come on, man. You see me here. God damn. Shit. Holy shit. The fact that they beat them by two is crazy. In overtime. In overtime. Needed a win. The fact that they beat them by two is crazy

Need to win Yeah, I get it Okay, I know it's early Gil said the Nuggets were one of the team's Nuggets and Bucks Just from what we've seen from this Nugget squad in years previous obviously won the chip in 2023 So came to Ant-Man, second round, last season. Not headed in the right direction, but... But I feel like this is not really super surprising for anybody.

Like everyone had said that they weren't really building for the future. That they were just very like, okay, this is Jokic, this is Jokic, Jokic. But... I know I said earlier that Russell Westbrook was a good addition, so... And time will tell. I know it's early, so I'm still rooting for him, obviously,

and for them to make it work, but it's looking bad right now. It's looking bad. It looks bad because you're not as... It's not like it's Philly, right, where you're bringing... Like, how many people Philly bring in? Shit. The whole damn team, basically. Eight.

But those eight is damn near playing, right? You got eight pieces that you got to try to fit in. No. You don't. You're starting five. Your top six has been there for the last two years. Your starting six are all champions. There's nobody in your top six that's not a champion.

They're champions, right? Westbrook is not a part of your top six. Right? So you're telling me that you six can't carry the load? That's crazy. Yeah. How many games Clippers got Their 21 they're two or that's crazy

I'm on the boat of the Clippers got to and one when we said oh shit Clippers lost Clippers lost three Hall of Famers to three Three tech technically to trade it. I mean to laugh and ones hurt Clippers lost three Hall of Famers. Two. Three. Three technically. Technically. Two traded. I mean, two left and one's hurt. PG gone. Right?

And they got a whole bunch of young people and they got two wins. And y'all got the MVP coming back and all his... His whole team. His whole shoot is like, yeah. Right? Right?

All right. Fuck it. Yeah, y'all good. How about that? All right, y'all good. We got a 40-year-old here. We got three wins. Mike Malone and his Nuggets crew talking big shit after they won the chip.

He was talking big shit. Rents almost due, ladies and gentlemen. As much as I'm talking shit, I guarantee you, I don't want to play them in playoffs. Do not. I do not want to play them in playoffs. I can say whatever I want. I do not. If he said, yo, we'll see y'all in the playoffs, I was just,

I was just playing. Don't get out your feelings. JJ Redick and Bronny have never lost a nugget. He's just going to threaten me to my face with all that see you in the playoffs talks. Shit. JJ Redick and Bronny have to my face with all that CU in the playoff talks? Shit! JJ Redick and Bronny have never lost to the Nuggets in the postseason, so new look Lakers squad.

Who, say it again? JJ Redick and Bronny, never lost to the Nuggets. That's a good stat. OK. See? We ain't killing all the stats, game. We got to keep a few alive. But let's move on to Mosey fans.

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now you got to get something up come up off of it. So, first question from Underdog User. Must be the money, 24. What NBA coach would make a good WNBA coach and vice versa? What do you mean make a... So what current NBA coach would make a good WNBA coach? And what current WNBA coach would make a good NBA coach?

Um... I don't fucking know. Um... I would say y'all coach for Boston. Who? Bazula. Oh, yeah. No, I'm just saying, I mean, you know,

when it comes to just understanding personalities and, you know. I probably would say any of the coaches that have teams with high defensive ratings because we still play a lot of defense in the W. So we're not at that let's outscore each other place yet. We're still trying to stop each other for 40 minutes. So Tibbs. Coaches that value defense, definitely. Yeah, and then, like, we have the load management.

Like, we don't have that. We don't have none of that. Get your ass out there. Yeah, we're going to play every night. So a coach like that and vice versa. So, you see, we got six, seven vacancies right now. Yeah, seven WNBA coaches have been fired this off day. I'm not going to say that they would be better suited in the NBA.

58% of the latest coaches have been relieved of their services. Damn. Come on, Gil. Y'all got to sit there every day to make $4? Girl, you crazy. Just a cute little summer job. Just a little summer job. Yeah. Just a cute little summer job.

Win you a little championship. Nah, they paying now. See, Becky making a million dollars, $2 million. Really? Yes. All right, last Yes. Wait, the coaches make more than the players? Wow.

That's a conversation for another time, but yes. But that's coming from the ownership. The owners. That's how they got Becky out of the NBA. Man, you make more than me. You better play. Yeah. You just ain't gonna be out here just yelling. You better get your ass on out there. Yeah, they've been on it. You just ain't gonna be out here just yelling.

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