Gil's Arena - The Knicks MONSTER Comeback Gets Gil Back On The Bandwagon

Episode Date: May 26, 2025

The Knicks MONSTER Comeback Gets Gil Back On The Bandwagon as Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Crew react to the New York Knicks overcoming another 20 point deficit in the NBA Playoffs to get back int...o the Eastern Conference Finals against the Indiana Pacers. They discuss how Karl Anthony Towns put the team on his back with a zesty 20 point 4th Quarter and break down how the Knicks' bench led by Josh Hart could be the secret in this series before giving their take on Jeff Teague's belief that Jalen Brunson is too ball dominant to win an NBA Championship. They then break down the game from the Indiana Pacers side as Tyrese Haliburton's clutch shots didn't fall in Game 3 leading the Gil's Arena Crew to debate if the Pacers need a true #1 option to overcome the Knicks before reacting to the news that the team will allow Haliburton's pops back into the stadium for the rest of the NBA Playoffs. Next, they move over to the Western Conference Finals where they break down how Anthony Edwards & The Minnesota Timberwolves BLEW OUT The OKC Thunder in Game 3 and discuss what changed for the Wolves that allowed them to overcome the Thunder's NBA leading defense. Finally, the Gil's Arena Crew reacts to the All-NBA teams where superstars like Giannis Antetokounmpo, Jayson Tatum & LeBron James made history and spark a hostile debate over which NBA All Star was snubbed from the team. Please give us a like and subscribe!!! Gil's Arena Crew - Gilbert Arenas, Josiah Johnson, Rashad McCants & Brandon Jennings Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get up to $1000 in Bonus Credits and A FREE Pick: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena Use our code for 10% off your next SeatGeek order https://seatgeek.onelink.me/RrnK/ARENA10 Sponsored by SeatGeek. Restrictions apply. Max $20 discount Fetch a FREE Jumpstart Trial Bag for your Dog. Go to https://ruffgreens.com/arena and use promo code ARENA Join the Playback chat to interact with Gil and Josiah https://www.playback.tv/gilbertarenas SUBSCRIBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAvjYgmwadC682OoC4Cc6TQ Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos! https://discord.gg/underdog 0:00:00 2 Min Countdown 0:01:52 Show Start 0:02:54 New York Gil Enters The Arena 0:08:02 Gil Sees Kendrick's Grand National Tour 0:14:43 All NBA Teams Reaction 0:23:40 The NBA's All Time Top 10 Is Set In Stone 0:41:02 LeBron's ABSURD All NBA Streak 0:49:10 Load Management Is Costing All NBA Players 1:01:12 Knicks Pull Off A MONSTER Comeback 1:19:57 Is Thibs Hurting The Knicks? 1:29:10 Jeff Teague Calls Brunson A Ball Hog 1:41:55 The Pacers' BIGGEST Problem 1:55:33 Pacers Lift The Suspension For Haliburton's Pops 2:02:58 How Ant-Man Brought The Wolves Back Into The Series 2:15:26 SGA & The Thunder Got Punked! 2:24:59 Luka Is On Gil-Zempic 2:31:10 MostlyFans Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:07 We got some beverages. Happy Memorial Day to everybody who got the day off, as you already know. You don't believe it, designated off day. So here we are. We got police in the neighborhood. Your favorite show. We got police in the neighborhood.
Starting point is 00:01:17 It's hot around here. The block was very hot this morning. It's hot. Going down. But this is Gil's Arena, presented by Underdog. Where is Gilbert Arenas? Uh oh. I'm so black, I'm so black, I'm so black, I'm so black, I'm so black, I'm so black, I'm so black, I'm so black, I'm so black, I'm so black, I'm so black, I'm so black,
Starting point is 00:01:52 I'm so black, I'm so black, I'm so black, I'm so black, I'm so black, I'm so black, I'm so black, I'm so black, I'm so black, I'm so black, I'm so black, I'm so black, I'm so black, I'm so black, I'm so black, I'm so black, I'm so black, I'm so black, Uh-uh. It can't bundle up. It's getting cold out there in Indianapolis. We seen it. You know, my... See, people don't realize, man, I'm on a trial, a 30-day trial. 17 days into the Knicks,
Starting point is 00:02:15 six days into the Pacers. Uh-uh. You know? Thunder Wolf, too. And people think it's like I'm bandwagon jumping, no, I'm checking out the amenities. Exploring.
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Starting point is 00:02:33 Tubi. You got Tubi, right? You got to check out it. That's what I'm doing right now. 30 day trial. 30 day trial. I'll have their benefits. But Gil, back on the Knicks bandwagon
Starting point is 00:02:44 here in the arena on this glorious Monday. Next to Gil representing Tough Crowd, Tough Crowd University, we have Mr. B, Brandon Jennings. Ho, ho, ho, ho! And with the greatest curl in the game, the man they call Money Maker Sonny, NCAA Champion of the World Rashad McKenzie. Young group, baby. Okay, I got a chain too. I got a chain too. Best curl in the game, now that's a compliment. It is.
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Starting point is 00:03:36 the fans out there. We still got to viewing up for our traditional version mobile vertical version pick which everyone you want to watch just make sure you support the show. Here's what's cracking in the arena today. The Knicks overcame another 20-point deficit to keep their season alive with a game three win over the Pacers in Indy Does New York need to rely on their bench more to stay in this series tips? Gave some dudes some minutes they produced you weren't feeling it at first as weren't most Nick fans But they came through got the dub dub, now down 2-1 heading
Starting point is 00:04:05 into game four, but the Pacers got a special guest coming back for game four, where we will get into it. The Wolves 40 piece the Thunder in their game three win. Has Minnesota figured OKC out, or is their big blowout being overblown? 42 piece, biggest win in franchise history for the Wolves, worst loss in franchise playoff history for the Thunder, and the league finally released the all NBA teams, but did the voters get it right?
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Starting point is 00:05:43 If you're trying to get rich, you know, don't fuck with me You're trying to pay your rent on time. I got you I'll be trying to tell them they got rid of pay come see me We did a better. Okay, you hit that 25 The rent paid got to go back. Stay over here. Airbnb. Just go.
Starting point is 00:06:09 It'll be 25. Man, listen. I keep losing. So you keep losing? It was big last week. That's because I was at 100 or less. When I go 100 times my shit or more, that shit is nasty. That's why I wore this jersey.
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Starting point is 00:07:09 Gil, you and Melly pulled up to the show on Friday, saw the videos, had FOMO. How was the Kendrick Lamar concert? Ah, it was off the chain. You know, I haven't been to a concert probably since what Beyonce did the Heart Knock Life in DC. It was like, oh, seven maybe? Damn. Yeah, that was the last time. She was bomb.
Starting point is 00:07:34 No, no, no. Heart Knock was Mary J. So I watched Mary J. She was active. Jay-Z was just a rapper. He was just there standing, right? So that was only, only thing I knew about rap concerts and then when I watched Kendrick that shit was off the chain. There was a little downtime when the, I mean I didn't know who she was at the moment in time, you know, SZA. You did not know who SZA was. Yeah, it was, it
Starting point is 00:08:03 was, it threw me off a little bit because it was DJ Mustard at the beginning, getting us all ready. Mustard. And then Kendrick came out there, and then it was basically SZA, the halftime show. And I was like, damn, I know she going to be on. This is crazy. You know, I'm thinking like the help do like two songs,
Starting point is 00:08:23 and then they get off, and then come back with the man. Did you say the help? Yeah, I thought she was the help do like two songs and then they get off and then come back with the man Did you say the help? Yeah, I thought she was the help. I didn't know who she I didn't know who she was I was like, hey, how long is she gonna be everybody over here? Jammin ish? How long she gonna be on here? We're Kendrick at dog And then she did like ten straight songs. I just started playing on my phone I mean, this is crazy. She wasn't to help out after all. And then a song came out that I knew. Oh, oh, this is okay. This is her.
Starting point is 00:08:48 And then when Kendrick came back popping, and then I thought it was just Kendrick the rest. Nope, then she came back again. So girl, SZA Curse. She started flying and shitting like, oh, man. She's huge though. No, after I started Googling. She's not huge.
Starting point is 00:09:01 She's small. No, she's huge. Oh, you talking about? No, I'm talking about her.'s not huge, she's small. No, she's huge. Oh, you talking about? No, I'm talking about her. Wow. No, who she is. SZA, like, she's performing in front of the football team.
Starting point is 00:09:10 No, then I started thinking about what Drake said, like SZA. Like, then it started making sense of who she was. I didn't know who she was. Yeah, she's small. She's not huge. She can move. SZA strays on the Lord Monday.
Starting point is 00:09:21 She can move. She can move? No, it was no strays. It was just I didn't know I didn't know I thought it was just Kendrick. I didn't I didn't know Kendrick and friends. I didn't It's not Kendrick and friends is Kendrick and sister I thought it was Kendrick and friend but it come out and do little one song then they get the fuck on and then boom is back to Kendrick. So yeah, so it caught me for it. It caught me for a loop, not gonna lie.
Starting point is 00:09:49 Right, I wasn't really feeling the 10 straight songs, but yeah. That shit boring to me. But I'll start listening to her music so I can. Yeah, no, she's big time. Yeah, I should have known, cause everybody else was in that motherfucker, all the ladies in it jamming
Starting point is 00:10:22 Well, go sizzle currently holds the record for most number one hits by female artists on the Hot R&B Songs chart, with a total of seven. So that sounds like a you problem. That sounds like a you problem. How long has she been out? She's been out for a minute. She's been out for a minute.
Starting point is 00:10:36 What? Eight years. Eight years? Yeah, she got a movie with Kiki Palmer, too. She got a whole movie. I watched that movie. Yeah, that's dope. She Kiki Palmer too. She got a whole movie. I watched that movie. Yeah, that's dope. She's dope.
Starting point is 00:10:47 You know who it is? She dope. I listen to rap. That ass is all over the internet. I listen to rap. She fine. She fine. She fit.
Starting point is 00:10:58 She can sing. I know the part. I didn't know. She thick. She ghetto. I know the acting. I didn't know the song. And then Justin Bieber, I ghetto? I know the acting. I didn't know the song. And then Justin Bieber, I knew someone was,
Starting point is 00:11:07 cause she was singing and I was over here playing. Then Justin Bieber came out. Justin Bieber, he came out. Like I knew, I thought it was Kendrick coming back. The damn arena started shaking like, just boom, like, like what? Yeah, Bieber. Oh, it's a white man.
Starting point is 00:11:21 Oh my God. The Bieber, the Bieber. The Bieber. The Bieber Belieber. When Bieber come out, it's, white man. Oh my god Well beef come out this yeah, all right, and then yeah, yeah start like a white man Beaver hit the stage Victor moju she was shaking. I was like, oh shoot. What the fuck is that? That's the Elon down there. No, I should like that's beaver. I ain't, oh shoot, who the fuck is that? That's Elon down there? No. And she was like, that's Beaver.
Starting point is 00:11:46 I ain't no mother fucker, Beaver. What's Beaver doing over here? You thought it was Elon down there. You said, what's Beaver doing up here? I was like, he ain't got no song with Kendrick. And then I was like, oh, her. What Beaver in this salvation? Man, she got Beaver?
Starting point is 00:11:58 Oh, she must be big time. She got Beaver. Well, shout out to Kendrick for holding it down in the city. Kendrick and SZA holding it down. And SZA. Yeah. Yes. The Drake brand national tour.
Starting point is 00:12:07 Drake was there? No. What happened to Drake? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I heard nothing. To be honest, I now got to go to his concert.
Starting point is 00:12:20 Just to see the difference? I got to judge it. But you already know what the difference is going to be, because his fan base is different. And they waiting for him. Nah, that's prosthetics, man. I'm looking at it, because he was like the sweetest. Oh, no, no, he's struggling.
Starting point is 00:12:32 When he came down the stairs, I thought he was gonna fall. Like, nigga, them stairs is too big for you, bro. There was some big nigga stairs. And he walking down like, all right, I would've tripped. And then he got the diamond shaver like that. Your cardio is like that. You're moving too much. I was a trip and then and then and then he got the diamond shaver like that your cardio is like that Yeah, you're moving too much. I was doing a push-up. He's in shape. He had the black and white T-bone No Aesthetically that shit was popping. He's about that business. It's art. This is like kind of it was artery
Starting point is 00:12:58 Yeah, it's about showing the visuals and not too much of the music. Yeah, that was that was artery I'm not well shout out to Kendrick and says a grand national tour pulling through artery, artery, not the not the artist. Artistry. Oh, just just your beaver. See, I don't know. He said artery. I thought I was gonna die. artery. I thought I was going to die. When Bieber came that bitch, I just seen him on it and that going crazy. Now he dead. That's true artery right there.
Starting point is 00:13:36 All right. Well, let's keep this thing moving to some basketball topic. That's good. That's good. On Friday, the league revealed of the players that made the three all NBA teams this season. Let's take a look. We'll start with the first team which featured MVP Shay Gildish Alexander a runner-up Nicola Jokic along with Janis Jason Tatum and Donovan Mitchell rounding out the squad SGA Jokic Janis Tatum were all unanimous first team selections shout Shout out to Spider coming through as well. Cav's top team in the East in Cancun currently.
Starting point is 00:14:09 But a tremendous achievement for him. Let's move on to the second team. So second team was led in voting by Anthony Edwards with Ant-Man making his second straight second team. He was joined by LeBron James who extended his NBA record with his 21st straight selection to an all-NBA team. Steph Curry became the oldest guard in league history to make back-to-back all-NBA teams. That's beautiful.
Starting point is 00:14:32 Defensive player of the year Evan Mobley made his first all-NBA team, and Jaylen Brunson also made his second straight team. Now let's move on to the third team if we can, please. So third team featured first-timer Cade Cunningham who led a historic turnaround in Detroit. Carl Anthony Towns, Tyrese Halliburton, Jalen Williams who joins Evan Mobley as the only players to be all-star all-mba and all-defensive selection this season and the beer James Harden who made an all-mba team for the first time since 2020. That's the second team. Let's see if the Since 2020 that's the second team. Let's see if the pull it third team up
Starting point is 00:15:11 Up too late, but let's take a look at all three teams and how the voting went That's nasty third team is nasty. The third team is nasty. Yes, what's three point guards on there? Positionless now based on the work So, let's take a look at how the voting turned out for the three teams. You do see Kat? I know black. So you look at how the voting broke down. Like I mentioned, Yana, Shay, Joker, Tatum, all unanimous selections. Donovan Mitchell 60.
Starting point is 00:15:39 Yeah. You got it. Nobody from Houston? No, I'm just saying, you see how they waste votes? Shagun just missed the cut. They got six point guards, man. I don't know, but you see how they just waste votes? It's just, some of these votes is just wasted.
Starting point is 00:15:55 What votes do you feel like we're wasting, you know? Staff making the first team. Second team, you mean? No, that, no, no, I'm looking at the first place voting. Jalen Brunson, Jalen Brunson, Evan Mobley. You know some of these guys, you're not even close to first team, but you're getting first team votes. Like, it's just, why are you wasting your time
Starting point is 00:16:15 doing stupid stuff like that? LeBron, 17 first team votes. Not feeling it. And with 11 as well. Cade also got six first team votes, which I can actually respect considering his turnaround. Yeah, his turnaround, yeah that makes sense. You know, worthy value winning,
Starting point is 00:16:35 but what they did bouncing back from last season, tripling their win total this year. Ashad, you said the third team was NASA. Do you feel like the voters got the all NBA teams right? tripling their win total this year. Shaw, you said the third team was nasty. Do you feel like the voters got the all NBA teams right? 100 voters, mostly squares, few former Hoopers mixed in. When do we get a vote? No, I mean, because when you look at plus minus
Starting point is 00:16:56 and then you look at the positions in which we talk about, a lot of guys from the past got credentials based on us having a position voting cast and everybody in position. I thought the first team was positioned well when you talk about point guard, shooting guard, small forward, powerful center. And then you look at everything else and they're just trying to fit guys in where the narrative is and I think I don't think LeBron supposed to be in there I don't think James Harden should be in there go back to the 13.
Starting point is 00:17:36 Let's just look at the total votes that we can for all three teams. Yeah man I mean Jalen Williams. You don't think Harden what he was able to do with that Glimber Squad him and Norman Powell with Kawhi missing? No. First half of the season, keeping them in contention. There's some other players, but this is all based off of the 65 game criteria, right? Yeah, 65 game criteria. So, I mean, like we were saying before, well, Gill actually said it.
Starting point is 00:18:00 He said once you reach this part of the criteria after the 65 you just start throwing guys in there and They just got a fit because the other guys who are good enough don't they're not gonna be there so these are just like placeholders and I think Jaren Jackson jr. Could have got in there He was never getting in there. I think sangoon Sangoon and Jaren Jackson jr. I think. Sangoon, Sangoon and Jerry Jackson, Jerry, I think we're number two, too big,
Starting point is 00:18:26 too big. That could have got two good, two good big spots. You know, you got Jalen Williams, which would right now be a four. Right. And so that got to be a four man right there on the east or wherever that can be feeling that spot. And Kay, I think Kay deserves it. Yeah, I don't think I don't think Hollenberg deserves it. No, no. He's playing good at the tail end of the season.
Starting point is 00:18:46 But we're talking about all season. James Harden was consistent, but it wasn't all NBA to me. Yo, yo, would you take Jason Tatum out and put Evan Mobley in the first team? Yep. Wow. No, I was thinking about taking Donovan Mitchell and put Brunson in. Ooh, but but but but the only reason why I feel like the cast because they went on like they had like what three or four four times going 12 in a row. The third option.
Starting point is 00:19:17 So the third option. 312 game winning streak. First team. 312 game winning streak starting season 15 and a third. Your third option is going to be. Okay well then Jalen Brunson then. The Mubly Defensive Player of the Year. Yeah, as far as he goes, second.
Starting point is 00:19:30 Because he got to. Brunson over Tatum? I don't think nobody from Boston should have been the first team. I mean, Mr. B, why all the Boston? No, no, no. They were second. No, but what I'm saying, you guys just won it last year,
Starting point is 00:19:40 right? Second in the year. So then you guys come back and you're number two. And it's like, you guys were, I mean, they were cruising the whole year. I said I'm number two. You're utilizing me because I'm number, I was number one.
Starting point is 00:19:52 I just don't feel like they took a leap. And so like, Who's they? It's still the same person. Well, okay, well, all of them. I mean, I just think they all cruise this year in Boston. Like, I mean, he had those numbers yet, but I don't think that Jason Tatum
Starting point is 00:20:04 should be in the first team. 27. When you got... 27, 9, and 6? I mean... Like, who you gonna put in there? Mowby? I mean, you can put Brunson in there.
Starting point is 00:20:15 Brunson, 24 what? 26? 26, 2, and 7? 2, 3, and 7? Mr. Clutch. And you're behind? You're behind, you're behind me. I mean, there's, I mean, If you fell in a position,
Starting point is 00:20:31 Tatum gotta stay, cause he's a three. And if you're looking at it, who's the best three? But his position was so bad. Of course his position, what I'm saying, how they leveraged it out, Tatum has to be there because he fits. He fits the piece. Who else you gonna put there? I mean, I just feel like somebody had a better, I mean, shit, K.
Starting point is 00:20:52 And he's like, this is all bullshit. Tatum's a power forward. So, I mean, you look at him, you're like, who was really playing better at the three four than him? That's a that's an all-star but we saw much top 15 overall players which is how this list is broken down interior because it's position list Just feel bad for Jalen Brown. Yeah, you know, I think I think being on a championship team like that. You have to take the back seat to the star player and Even though you're the leader and you're all this if you don't put up the numbers it don't matter
Starting point is 00:21:30 It don't matter so him not getting it, you know, he can't feel snub, but you got to put up numbers now It's a numbers game. So if you don't got the numbers you can't even be mentioned. But nobody from Houston Nobody from Houston. Shane Goon was close. I think that's a good Jerry Jackson, Jr. Just But your team doesn't have nothing to do with you. What was his number? I think he averaged like what, 19 a game? 19-12. 19.
Starting point is 00:21:54 Let's see. Jaden and William. 21-5. So 22-5-5. Shangoon 19-10 rebounds, five assists. Played 76-5. 19-10-5. 50% from the field. So 20 22 5 and 5 thank you 19 10 rebounds 5 assist played in 7 to 6 18 10 at 5 Jackson was 22 and 22 and 6 or something
Starting point is 00:22:12 22 5 and then there was the same Jalen Williams in during Jackson 22 6 Jalen Brown they both had damn near the same numbers as a They both had damn near the same numbers as us. So they won't. Huh? Yeah, did not. Jaylen Brown. Missed those stretch of games I think towards the end. But either way, it would have been him or Jaylen Williams in the third spot.
Starting point is 00:22:34 KD I think played 62 games so he was ineligible as well to make this list. But let's talk a little bit about Giannis. Giannis made his seventh straight All-NBA first team. He joins Michael Jordan as the only players in history with an MVP, Defensive Player of the Year award and seventh first team all-MBA selections. How far away is Giannis from cracking the top? Seventh first teams?
Starting point is 00:22:53 Yep, seventh straight first team. Oh, seventh straight. Mr. B, how far is Giannis from cracking the top 10 all time? 30 years old, very impressive resume from an individual standpoint. Back-to-back seasons average 30 points per game shooting 60% of the field. Never been done before in the NBA history before he did it. I mean definitely you know definitely need a couple more rings but just keep you know just keep doing
Starting point is 00:23:19 what you're doing. I mean he's averaging 30-something every year so but I think you know I think it will help if he gets some more rings under his belt, because winning does trump a lot of other things. Yeah. I was going to say, what, like, Sam and Stray, top four MVP? All right. Voting.
Starting point is 00:23:39 Yeah. You got a lot of time. Do his accolades look more impressive if they're in another location, say Brooklyn? Yeah, if it's in a big city. Los Angeles? I mean, by the time he's... I mean, if we're going off of what the experts have,
Starting point is 00:24:03 you got cold nine Shaq 10 Will be tough for him. Yeah, only 30 though. Let's say you got five to eight more solid years I know but when you're talking about that you talking about They have the MVP's they have the finals MVP's they have the championships. They have the scoring titles right, you're talking to like They have the finals, MVPs, they have the championships, they have the scoring titles, right? You're talking like, just where they are, like, you know, nine and 10, you're talking about,
Starting point is 00:24:33 you know, five, five rings, four rings, you know, one, you know, the fans and the public has him. Number two, it's gonna be hard to move him. It's gonna be hard to crack the top 10 in a sense from the media standpoint because you're gonna have to match everything everyone has and to see that. I think Kirby is the closest one to do it because he has the NVPs, a scoring title,
Starting point is 00:25:06 and he has the NVP's a scoring title and he has the championships so you know a couple more years I think they put him past Shaq. Yeah, Steph 37 years old like I said oldest going to NBA history. I think he's the closest one from resume I think I think Katie's behind him for active and I'm pretty sure Yannis and Jokic is gonna be swooping through. Yeah. Wait, what you say they have Kobe and Shaq at 9 and 10? They have Kobe. As the greatest ever? As top 10 you know from the top 75 list. Yeah, they have. So if you look at their metrics, it's basically those. So who's in the top, like who's in the top?
Starting point is 00:25:53 Basically everybody in front of them, multiple MVP winners. OK. So between Yonis and Joker, who do you feel like will finish their career? Rate of high, obviously. Joker, three MVPs. They both got one chip, one finals MVP. Joker, first big man NBA history to average a triple double in a season. Who's in front?
Starting point is 00:26:17 Considered by many to be the best player in the world, not the MVP. Just by how they voting, you know, MVPs is the most valued thing for individual accolades. So you'll say Yocage is in front of Yanis right now. Sonny, do you agree or disagree? He's younger than me. Do I agree or disagree? Saying that Joker in front of Yanis right now when it comes to all time ranking.
Starting point is 00:26:40 Well, I must say I'm parked. But that's kind of like, to me, is the whole top ten changing and reshaping is just like going up to the mountain, rush more and carving a new face. Can you just change somebody else's face? That wouldn't happen, right? Right. Because you know how much time and effort it would take to get up there and carve a whole new face into a mountain?
Starting point is 00:27:07 The forefathers are the forefathers. The top five is the top five, the top 10 is the top 10. But it ain't configured by the media. The media doesn't dictate who I think is the greatest of all time. Not even top five, not even top 10. Not even top 75. So if we're gonna keep using media credentials and media references for top five, not even top 10. Not even top 75. So if we're gonna keep using media credentials
Starting point is 00:27:25 and media references for top 10, we wouldn't have a say in it. Well, you technically are the media, though. We don't have to say. Being on the news reading about $100, we would- If they make the list, and we're here talking about a list, and we all played, they didn't,
Starting point is 00:27:39 why are we respecting their list? So what list do we go by? Our own list. The list we all argue about every fucking day. Who's 10? Who's five? Who's eight? Who's two? Right, so I know, but how would players know where they're ranked if you're just asking anybody? Like we need something. They shouldn't care where they ranked first. They shouldn't care? No, they shouldn't. Hell yeah, if you were. They shouldn't, but they do. They only do because of the medium.
Starting point is 00:28:00 There's more attention you can get. Right. More fame you can get. But if you didn't care, you would actually play to where you belong. You belong where you play. How you play. So 10 and 9 for Shaq and Kobe is all preference based. If you like their games, you didn't like their game, always look at this. How did it look? How did it look? Did Giannis make it look like it was something you could put him above Kevin Garnett? Above Tim Duncan? Above Akeem Olajuwon? How did it look? Did it look better enough to put him over Alan Iverson? Over Kyrie Irv? Like when we talk about the list, you say look at these guys Look what they did and look at how they made it look
Starting point is 00:28:42 So if you're gonna go past them, you gotta have more. You gotta look better. Numbers ain't enough. So he don't look better than none of those guys you just said? Yeah. Oh, okay. Where did I say the fans and the players have Kobe? I think players Kobe were top two, top three.
Starting point is 00:28:59 Okay, I said two. So Jamal Dixon, shut the fuck up. Who's Jamal Dixon? That nigga in the chat. Nigga in the chat? I thought I just said, I thought I just said where they had him. I double player.
Starting point is 00:29:13 But I mean, but media, the people who voting, they voting for everything. Our whole career is being judged by them. They voting for, you know, all NBA, they're voting for all starter, voting for finals and VP. They're the ones that's voting. So when we say we don't respect what they're voting,
Starting point is 00:29:31 everyone's accolades is contributed to this, right? They are the ones that are picked. They're the ones who are paid to pick, like a judge in a case, right? They are the judge in a case. They're missing all the key elements in the case. They're not acknowledging, they're not throwing. They are the judge in the case. They're missing all the key elements in the case. They're not acknowledging all the key evidence. They're just saying, all right, it looks like you did it.
Starting point is 00:29:52 So you did it, but wait, there's more. We got more evidence of why I didn't do it. So even with this list, you say, all right, man, these guys are gonna pick because it's based on all of these different things, but then got to equate winning losing team around organization the coaching the free agency or we didn't pick all these things account for that one player accumulating his achievements and saying I got this because our team was better our team was good I had this player with
Starting point is 00:30:22 me to help pass the ball some Some players don't got that. Some players never had that. T-Mac never had that. You know, certain guys that could have propelled their careers, but they're stuck here because they didn't have what other players had. Now they're here, like Steph and certain guys, KD, like look who you won with, bro.
Starting point is 00:30:43 Allen Iverson probably looking around like, man, I wish y'all would gave me something something something even close to what y'all had we wouldn't even be talking about me and anybody else Give me something y'all gave me nothing. What he gave me nothing. No nothing, but he's a he's the fourth top Shooting guard ever it could be number one. It could. So you see how the determination is what you are dealing with, what you're working with. And if you can work past it, you could be propelled. But if you can't, you're gonna be T-MACing it, you're gonna be Vincenting it,
Starting point is 00:31:15 you're gonna be at the bottom of the barrel, Dwight Howard in it. Like yo, if I'd have had a prime Gilbert Arenas, 29 a game, we would have probably won it too. Yes, but it's all ifs. Exactly. But the if is, I can't use ifs. I can't use ifs on your, on your shoe.
Starting point is 00:31:36 We do. We do as players. But don't we need a list? There's a big- Like, if you're a top player and we're just going by what everybody's list instead of a list, how would we, like how does that player know where he ranks? Because we're just going by what everybody's list instead of a list, how does that player know where he ranks?
Starting point is 00:31:47 Because we're just going by everybody having a list. We need a list. We're holders. We all know we all good. We all know. An opinion comes when we don't like something that we see. That's when we use our opinion. So when they bring out the top ten right
Starting point is 00:32:05 that's what they voted on now our opinion comes in to say no this goes here this goes here and we make our argument at the end of the day it's still our opinion that list is still the list no matter what the fuck we do but it's their the list is the list there no that's the list go yeah but no is the other thing as a life Jordan is list that goes. Michael Jordan has been number one since when? You don't need a list. Who controls the list that we're talking about that is the list? The same people who's gonna control it all the time. So who is it? Can we name them? We don't know. The voters, right? So you're just saying, it's just like saying
Starting point is 00:32:38 the man controls us. Who the fuck is the man? And stop giving the man so much fucking power. They don't even know who the fuck the man is. It's whitey. You're just is the man and stop giving the man so much fucking power They don't even know who the fuck the man is Whitey you're just saying the man just to play the victim fuck all that who's the list who made the list? I want to know who made the vote and if I see them and I'm like, I don't respect your fucking list I'm gonna make my own. Okay, that's what the players need to do If they don't like the list but players are in there, but the play I'm sorry The players don't like the list. I don't like if I'm ranked 10 uh-huh and I should be ranked 5. Do you want me to respect this list?
Starting point is 00:33:13 But your opinion, remember what Kobe posted, Kobe was still alive, they had him ranked what like 44? Yeah I remember that. Remember that season? It was like yo come on man. And then what happened? He left. Right and then what happened? He that? It was like, yo, come on, man. And then what happened? He laughed. Right, and then what happened? He laughed. That was after his Achilles. Did they change the list?
Starting point is 00:33:32 Did he go up from 44 after that list? I'm pretty sure he did. Cause it was laughable. Because of a list. Cause it's laughable. Because a list made it laughable. You have to change the list based on preference of whether I like it or not.
Starting point is 00:33:44 If enough people say that list is bullshit. No, he got mad about the number. No, he got mad about the number. Because the list may have to change the list based on preference of whether I like it or not Change it or did he just perform? No, it's not Kobe changing. He don't remember. He don't have the power to change it So performance if it's before he can't perform no more, how does he go down? How does he go? He don't go down. So he should stay at two or three. He should stay where he is. He should stay at two or three. If someone passes. So when Shannon Sharp said is God, Air Jordan and Kobe in that order. That's it. It should have never changed. That's it. But somehow dead people moved ahead of a guy who stopped playing. Who? A lot of guys. No one's moved in front of Kobe. So how did he get to nine? He's been at nine.
Starting point is 00:34:30 He's been... He disagreed that he was top three. He's been... First of all, he was... He disagreed that he was top three. No, that's players from the consistent list of what ESPN and those guys, the voters. Kobe has been past seven. I can show you plenty of...
Starting point is 00:34:43 Kobe Bryant is the top two player of the decade 2002 to 2010 this is when he was playing decades. They were saying that his decade Yes, when Kobe Bryant left the NBA in 2019 they were saying Kobe Bryant is Arguably arguably the best player to ever play the game. That's one, two. We can argue that. That's what that means.
Starting point is 00:35:12 But this is the same people you're saying that's saying something else. You're saying the ESPN people had him at seven or nine all the time. No, they didn't. Yes, they did. No, they didn't. Go find me a list. Go find Scott. That's one person.
Starting point is 00:35:24 There's a hundred people that vote. Will Bond. He voted. Will Bond. He voted. The other dude, the white dude. I don't know his name. What's the dude?
Starting point is 00:35:33 Rose on fire. What's the dude? Matt. He used to have his own show. Jim Rowe. Jim Rowe. Skip Bayless. Personalities. All had Kobe where. My former boss. Skip Bayless, personalities. All had Kobe where he was, because he hit the pre-final.
Starting point is 00:35:49 It's 100 people. Can you put the list back up so we can show him what this actually looks like? The all-MBA voting list. Put the all-MBA voting up. All three teams, there it is. Now, those six people you named, those could be Cade Cunningham.
Starting point is 00:36:08 Who's voting for, six personalities. That's six, but you see where he's at. He's third team. They voted that he should be first team. So are those six major personalities I named, are they the front and center of media? It don't matter, they only have one vote. I'm asking, are they front and center? So the other 70 people who vote, we don't see them on TV. The other 94 people. We don't see them on TV. Some of them, I'm sure are they front and me, are they front and center? So the other 70 people who vote,
Starting point is 00:36:25 we don't see them on TV. The other 94 people. We don't see them on TV. Some of them, I'm sure we do. Yeah, just follow me here. Follow me, we don't see them on TV. We only see six of them. The six are saying Kobe Bryant is what?
Starting point is 00:36:38 Arguably the best. One or two, six of them. That's just arguably the best. Right, so the six people are pushing a narrative Mm-hmm pushing a net if that the other 94 cannot So why all of a sudden the six is getting ignored? Cuz they're telling you that who's the best that they're telling you six six guys Okay, like if we voted right now, how did the narrative you have from six to ninety four?
Starting point is 00:37:03 We have one vote bro like if we all vote in his something who's the top five? No matter who you put it's only one vote, but y'all going away So the main narrative is the national narrative Kobe's one or two if you are 94% on the other side that means you're going against the narrative No, it's not in there. It's whatever a narrative. It's not a real thing. It's just a not a narrative. A narrative is not a real thing. It's just a narrative. Huh? A narrative is not a real thing.
Starting point is 00:37:30 You can make up a narrative. I know, I know. That's what the whole point of the conversation is. They made up a narrative. There's truth and then there's a narrative. The narrative that Kobe Bryant is seven and nine or ten is made up. That's a made up narrative and everyone's been pushing it since he died. So, I asked him, how did he go from 2 to 9?
Starting point is 00:37:49 Can somebody go 2014 top 50, top, top, all timeless? There's only one person that passed Kobe since Shaq was, so Shaq was in front of Kobe before Kobe passed Shaq. That's how Shaq got behind Kobe The only person who came in front was LeBron James and probably what? 2014 when he won his like third MVP. That's how he broke the top ten. I'm super I'm so I mean when he yeah, we didn't want to get in front of Kobe Shaq was in front of Kobe. I don't do it How oh maybe he was an MVP Get in front of Kobe. Shaq was in front of Kobe. I don't do it. How? Oh, maybe he was an MVP, maybe four-time champ,
Starting point is 00:38:29 maybe a couple finals MVP. At some point, don't you think Shaq was in front of Kobe if Kobe was a number two? Like, I mean, come on, why am I playing stupid? At some point, if Shaq was the best player in the NBA, he had to be in front of Kobe if Kobe was a young boy. And then at some point when Kobe became himself, he won a championship, he won an MVP, he won another championship, he then passed Shaq. That's simple.
Starting point is 00:38:59 So who was in front of Shaq? Who was in front of Shaq? When Shaq was at his height, Jordan, Magic, Kareem, Bird. They have Bill Russell and Tim Duncan. So he never got in front of Tim. So he never got to that. So Shaq was behind all those guys you just named. He's been behind, yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:28 And Kobe's behind Shaq. Kobe was behind Shaq. Yeah, so let's say 2005, do you think Kobe was in front of Shaq in 2005? You talking about 81 point Kobe? Yes, do you think he was in front of? Yes, I think everyone thought that. Everyone thought that.
Starting point is 00:39:50 Even Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan was sitting around like this little boy. He keep getting close to me. I'm gonna have to call my people. But let's get back to this season's all NBA list. So as I mentioned, Lebron extended his record with his 21st consecutive all NBA team selection after teams were announced Ron had this reaction tweeting quote all NBA at 40 low-key crazy to me right now sitting here watching the playoffs Just thinking about it bless beyond
Starting point is 00:40:18 Beyond I can even imagine So no other players made all NBA more than 15 straight times with Kareem Kobe and Duncan Altair for the second longest streak. LeBron also holds a record with 11 straight first team selections. So just- You said who? Huh? You said Duncan? 15 all NBA, 15 straight all NBAs. Duncan. Damn. So Shaq never would have gotten in front of Duncan. LeBron also holds a record with 11 straight first seed selection. So just how long is bronze all NBA streak? Well, let's take a look
Starting point is 00:40:49 This is what you look like in video games when you made his first all NBA team, but that used to be high quality back in those days for guys Look, how absurd is it to see LeBron make all NBA for 21 straight seasons? You made all NBA three straight seasons. No, I mean, this is ridiculous. That's why it does get frustrating that if you're just a pure basketball fan, that you're not enjoying this. Because if we take the age of him and
Starting point is 00:41:24 we compare it to players that even got to this age well We got to see Michael Jordan's age and that was the best thing we've ever seen at 39 40 I was in a duh right average in a dud like it was amazing right we seen what if you know if you're older I'm pretty sure you seen what Kareem looked like at that age, right? We see what Dirk looked like on his final days. We've seen what Vince Carter looked like, right? So when you see a guy who's still playing at a high level and we're sitting here trying to compare him to younger goats, that doesn't even make sense. Like for you to enjoy what you're seeing because you probably would never see a 40 year old at this level
Starting point is 00:42:06 Make 21 straight all NBA just just averaging 25 7 and 7 at the age of 40 It's not gonna be seen like that again So I don't even know why we spend our time hating when we can just be a joint because this is legacies going This is basketball if you were a fan of it, like I'm pretty sure if you're a football fan, what you've seen from Tom Brady at the end, I'm pretty sure that was amazing for you. Because you know, at that age, they all broken down,
Starting point is 00:42:33 struggling, sitting on the end of the bench, waving flags, clapping. You know, so I mean, it is what it is. I mean, it is amazing. Just like it is what it is. I mean, it's It is amazing just like it's amazing watching Katie at the age and fucking step at this age That's amazing 37 still doing it fucking um, Chris Paul What is he almost 40 he's 40, you know And they're hoping that like a high level though. I know that's I said, it's high level hoping
Starting point is 00:43:04 I guess like if LeBron James wasn't playing Chris Paul would like Yeah, some good-ass basketball. He's playing at this age. Mm-hmm. They take your ass home, man Take your fucking ass home, man. What are you doing? This is a little play in his games like this shit ain't real 40 sit down You got some other shit to do but high 30s you got Steph KD you guys see if you got LeBron but you see all these guys at this edge I wanna watch them ballin what's up at 40 but it's not impressive it's not impressive no who doing it though nobody that's what I'm saying cuz nobody wants to to. Nobody can't. Nobody wants to. Can't. I'm hurting. My knees are. They can't. My ankles hurt. They can't. My back. I need a back yadamy bro. The doctor said I need a back yadamy. I think I broke my back again. Spinal. Oh man that's them taking care of their body. Man taking up a whole spot for the all NBA team, bro. Who?
Starting point is 00:44:07 Why didn't somebody just push him out that spot, man? He did. He tried to. An all-star, man. Motherfucker just didn't want to. He didn't play and didn't want to give up the spot. Norm Powell might have been all NBA if he'd have took that spot and then went and propelled it.
Starting point is 00:44:19 God damn. You never know what momentum can take you somewhere, man. Holding up these spots for these young fellas. So LeBron, 40 years old, they was what, top five in East? Three. Top three in the West. Top three in the West, and he's averaging how much? Norrpound only played 60 games this year, so he's short.
Starting point is 00:44:33 That's a negative 55 plus minus for the year. Who? LeBron James. What does that mean? He's the only player on our NBA team with a negative plus minus. On this year's? Yeah. Or just year's? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:45 Or just ever? This year. So it does, so what does that mean? He didn't play very good. All year. So he shouldn't make it because of that? Because it's plus minus? Mm-hm.
Starting point is 00:44:59 Everybody else's was plus. Plus over 100, I think. It was negative 55. Damn. was plus. Plus over 100, I think. It was negative 55. Damn. So do you think Kobe was ever minus? Probably. Okay. So that means nothing to them. Well, you're not comparing Kobe to LeBron. Comparing LeBron to the current field right now.
Starting point is 00:45:18 I'm talking about in that field. What field? All NBA. Right now there was other players that had a plus minus better than negative 55 that deserved the spot. I'm pretty if that's the logic then I'm pretty sure if you think about Kobe's we're not talking about and we're not bringing and we're not bringing and I'm using use another player.
Starting point is 00:45:38 No, I'm using your favorite player because your favorite player. That's your favorite your favorite player. That's your favorite player. Both of y'all. I don't want to hear that. He ain't never like Kobe. If you're putting a standard. I'm the only one with a Kobe tattoo. I never like Kobe. You use a standard to
Starting point is 00:45:58 take away someone's legacy and I just open it up and say does it count now? So when he played with Kwame Brown him Do you think he had a positive but he may be all in the 18? I don't know. I didn't look at it. He did not talking about this. But does it still matter? Not yes, it matters okay, so he shouldn't have a Can't go back and change it. Okay
Starting point is 00:46:20 Well, you have to you have to do it right now. It'd be the same You have to be the same. We are the same. You just want to use the guy that's better. Fuck no. You just want to use the guy that's better. There's players every year. Yes. He said there's other players.
Starting point is 00:46:35 Always. There is? There's a minus for the season, but they make an all NBA team. Always? Yeah. Sure? Yes. So if we find one find one is not what that mean If I find another one I win already found color
Starting point is 00:46:48 I said if you find one that's not like if we find an all NBA dip It's a play or you didn't say a name that didn't have a negative plus minor everybody had plus no I'm going to let me know I'm just saying it was other players that that's been a negative right? That's been all Okay. Yeah, that was my question. So let's talk about the other side of this now though so you got you got like Jerry Jackson Jr. dismissed make an all-NBA team missed out on defensive player of the year either one of those I would have gotten him a super max contract of five years three hundred and forty five million dollars or he would have been eligible for that as it stands around right now because he
Starting point is 00:47:21 did not make all NBA he's got five years hundred forty seven million it's about two hundred million dollar difference that he lost out on guilt I think you stands around right now because he did not make all NBA. He's got five years, 147 million. It's about $200 million difference that he lost out on. Gil, I think you predicted this a few weeks ago when he was the front runner in the defensive player of the year race. That's something that would happen to prevent him from reaching that Supermax level.
Starting point is 00:47:38 But, bringing my next question. So, with Supermax deals exploding over the next decade because of the new TV rights deal, will we see players fight back against low management So with Supermax deals exploding over the next decade because of the new TV rights deal, will we see players fight back against load management to stay eligible for the all NBA teams? Right, we talk about load management, players get the criticism for that,
Starting point is 00:47:53 but really this is more of a team thing and forcing these players to rest. But with the 65 game minimum, and Halliburton talked about that I believe last season, dealing with the hammy injury, but staying out there on the court to try and still be eligible for postseason awards They should
Starting point is 00:48:10 shorten the season Shorten the season you have these guys the rest date they asking for Everybody who's caught up on this we did it so y'all can do it. It ain't the same game They play it faster. They're more explosive They don't lift as much as we did, so they don't have the durability. You give them rest. You allow the summer to be more of a rest summer.
Starting point is 00:48:30 You allow these guys to make decisions not to go play for the summer teams and all that other shit. You give guys a much better opportunity to make a 65 season threshold rather than 82 missing those 20 games because of rest. And you know, these Achilles injuries are not low, low cut shoes problems. This is a low management problem because these guys are moving different. They're not the same guys can't just ice like Carmelo and John Stockton did every day and expect that to be the metric because they wasn't doing things that we're doing today.
Starting point is 00:49:06 The way that these guys are moving, the explosiveness, it's going to pop those bands, those Achilles are going to pop right away. So they need rest. You got back to backs, you got two, three days, you got this type of thing with the air thing, with the flying and the blood clots. You got to manage the threshold better. And I think that's gonna allow these guys to play longer. You know, you got Joel Embi 82 games, he not gonna make it for
Starting point is 00:49:33 the rest of his career. So if you got a 65 game season or 70 game season, where guys can actually have some rest more in the summer and then not have to push themselves to overexert themselves by postseason. You might have a better looking league. But do you think players would stand for that, knowing what's at stake in terms of individual accolades,
Starting point is 00:49:54 records, scoring titles, all that type of stuff, dropping down from 82 to something might be more beneficial for the league? You don't have a restriction on your accolades anymore. And it's shorter games. So that 65 that you couldn't reach, it's actually, that's the whole season now. That 60, now you play the whole season.
Starting point is 00:50:12 We ain't even worried about your rewards or anything. And you got 15, 16 games that you would have had if you got injured the rest, now you got that rest. So guys are gonna take the approach to be more subtle, more cautious with their training, who they train with. It is not going to be reckless and the league and the owners, the money that's coming in from the deals, they got to have to move that money around and spend that money now on the players like Gil was always saying that money now is going to be spent on the medicine, the therapy, the housing, all of this stuff now compartmentalizes.
Starting point is 00:50:46 Because you're not losing money like Jaren Jackson, 350, because it's too many guys in the pool. And these guys are hurting. All these things can be changed if they just look at it a little differently. I don't think they should shorten the season. I mean, I think the 65 game and the low management is for the owners so they can, you know, so they can have situations like this. I think Gill said that Memphis wouldn't be able to afford him anyways if he did get that.
Starting point is 00:51:14 That 345 price range, that 147 looks a lot better. I think it's a game that they're playing also with it and I think that's why it's in. But like Rashaad said, guys need to take care of their bodies in the summer. So much other things going on in the world, social media and all this stuff, but I think guys need to get back into the lab and just go ghost for a minute too in the summertime. Come back looking better, come back more in shape. But long as the load management in there, they can keep you off the court as long as they want because you're their investment.
Starting point is 00:51:43 So if we say we ain't playing then you just ain't playing. So this load management is for the owners though so they can keep their money in their pockets. And that's what I was when they first came out and they was blaming the players and I'm like this is a load manager is not coming from a player it's a coach and that's coming from upstairs. When we played and our injury was you know six to eight weeks they told us four to six weeks because they were trying to get us out there. They wanted the fans and they're trying
Starting point is 00:52:17 to push us out there. Now six to eight weeks is turning into ten to twelve that's coming from upstairs right Because some of these guys were still getting voted in. They did so much so fast, like a Kawhi-Lenner, and he was still making his team. And because he can make this team still with 58 games, it was hurting the owners. So the owners wanted 65 games. So they did a sweep across
Starting point is 00:52:44 and see what everybody was averaging. How many games all the superst wanted 65 games. So they did a sweep across and see what everybody was averaging. How many games all the superstars is averaging. And that's how they came with the baseline 65. But now they get to use it as a weapon. You have an ankle sprain and you think you can play and they're like, yeah, I don't need you to go out there. That's not, you know, a comminga situation. Obviously, Jared and Jack is eat.
Starting point is 00:53:06 That's easy to see. Like, it was easy to see he was gonna get fucked. Because I would do it. I can't afford you at no fucking 350. You're not putting nobody in their seats. Nobody's coming to see you, Otis. They ain't coming to see that wild motherfucker down there that may be throwing grenades, nuclear strike.
Starting point is 00:53:23 I don't know what the fuck he gonna do, but that's who everybody's coming to see. His antics done made baseball. That's who sells. But do we have to pay him? Huh? We don't have to pay him. No, that's his ticket. No, but I'm saying we don't have to pay that. He's worth that. He can get that.
Starting point is 00:53:40 Yeah. We don't have to give it to him. No, you don't have to, but the problem is this. It's 300, how 345 345 is unlocked yeah right that's all the lead for the lead right so now when he go if you say we're not matching we're not doing that he goes in the open market is not kept at 150. It's still three. It's still Somebody offer him to 45 you still like man up that Well, I'm Memphis. I'm Memphis. I'm saying as long as it ain't on my tab. Yeah, we're cool We good, but as I'm saying, but this is my question if he's in limbo with 350 on his head with nobody willing to pick it up, where does he go from there? Right. But no matter what,
Starting point is 00:54:27 he might not get 350, but he gonna get more than a 150. 100%. And that's all he give a fuck about. I might not get the 350, but I'm gonna get, I'm gonna get 275. So that's my disconnect is if I go into free market and I'm Memphis, I say, we not paying you that. Now you just got the all NBA deserving. Now you're going to the market and you're looking around like who's going to somebody got to give me 350. And everybody like, not me.
Starting point is 00:54:54 Not me. And everybody looking around and then you go into free agency and no one picks you up. But that's not going to happen. How? Are they going to pay what he's worth? At least half. No man, pay him something like that somebody are they gonna pay what he's worth at least know if you have something So what's the what's the threshold of what he's worth what he's willing to take and what's out there? Is it to say?
Starting point is 00:55:12 No, I don't know. I don't know the 150 to the 345. This is where you're in between Okay, so what at what point is anybody not the other teams are like we only gonna give them 145 What not is five-year 147 is I think the most of the five year 147. You know, they're gonna sign in tomorrow. That's the Grizzlies. Yeah, hell yeah. That's the most you know, right now. Yeah, yeah. But I'm saying if it didn't happen, yeah, it's still that five or three forty five.
Starting point is 00:55:39 Yes. Under normal, but hey, we'll try to move you. So I'm asking like, what's the minimum you could give him? If you're another team, what's the minimum you can give him if you're another Team, what's the minimum you can give him the minimum to some to fit to 20 to 50 minimum? Yeah, what a sentence that's what a five-year as a five-year 250 You take that but who gonna give it to him? That's my question You know, I know we can go somebody gonna go get home. Somebody will give it to him because he's got his own NBA. But okay, if he is all NBA, somebody got somebody going to somebody
Starting point is 00:56:09 going to somebody because they're still getting a discount. They're getting a discount to the fact that if your team don't want you and you nobody wants to pay you 350 you worth 150. That's your real market. But you made this team. So you done bumped up another hundred. Who's somebody a jump out somebody's position though right now who's in the same position I don't know nobody wait who Luca no Lucas on a see that's Luca
Starting point is 00:56:36 is he was supposed to get the 345 look at the part now think now think about it you got Luca in him up at the same time. Right. Both asking, let's say Luca asked for $250. But ain't this the same scenario before you finished? Kind of. No, one is $140, one is worth $140, one is worth $350. Right, but it's both the paper.
Starting point is 00:57:01 On metrics, they both can get this much. But on paper, they both can get but on on paper They both can get this but one is worth this one is worth a hundred percent and they both ended up in the middle for sure So now let's say Jared is like, okay, we're gonna sign for 250 cool cool and then Lucas signs before you at 250 They gonna drop the number. Are you signing Jared for the same price? You sign Luca fall, right? You're gonna buy well Lucas. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, we're not paying you the same thing We pay look and that's what ends up happening and that's what I'm feeling you gotta be then That's the problem sometimes in an NBA where people don't understand if you know when we go into free agency
Starting point is 00:57:36 There's a marker. We're all know where we see where we're gonna stop right in it Everything depends on a person in front of us Right if I'm worth 50, yeah, you'll stop the whole you work. No, I'm not getting less you work 70 So we only 10 million away from each other You signed for a hundred 90 80 off the rip your ass signed for 40 you fuck both us Yeah, you shorted the market like what Brunson did last year. Okay. He sorted the market for everybody Oh, you ain't oh you ain't no fucking Brunson. You ain't no
Starting point is 00:58:15 What ends up happening so as much as we we pocket watch You you're hoping that someone don't fuck the market up. Yes. You want someone, when you go into the marketplace, you want someone to sign some money they didn't, they wasn't worth. Cause you get to piggyback off of it. I'll give you an example.
Starting point is 00:58:38 Nate Robinson, when he was in New York, he left there, ended up signing in Denver, I think, for a short term one year contract. But before he did that, the market for mid-level exception players was like 10, 10 million plus. He took a one year to $2 million contract. So everybody that was in free agent now seen, because he was averaging 20. Nate's averaging 20 off the bench for New York everybody in free agency gonna hit and he took the low everybody had to take JR took a less everybody ended up taking less and that fucked everybody up so I understand that market shit and it'll
Starting point is 00:59:16 fuck everybody up based on who's in front of you hey man he's good he got what damn we got to settle for this? Shit. So, good, you talked about Jaylen Bresler. We're gonna hit the Knicks in one second, but today's podcast is sponsored by SeatGeek. Everyone can use our code ARENA10 to get 10% off your SeatGeek order, whether you're a new customer or not,
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Starting point is 01:00:16 You get your Tims. Okay, the Tims are locked up. Yeah, unlock the Tims. So Knicks and Pacers met in Indy for game three of the Eastern Conference Finals Sunday night. But let's go back quickly to game two. Pascale Siakam dropped a playoff career high 39 points on 15 to 23 shooting to guide the Pacers to the win in a 2-0 lead in the series. It was a Pacers' sixth straight road win this postseason.
Starting point is 01:00:36 Jaylen Brunson put up another dominant performance with 36 points and 11 assists, but the Nix lost their second straight home game. No team has lost the first two games at home and come back to win a series in the conference finals. Kat had 20 points in the game but got benched in the fourth quarter. After the loss he had this message about the Knicks going down 0-2. What's the mindset when you're down 0-2 and obviously history says 93% of teams that are up 2-0? I don't want to talk about the word history. I'm not here to repeat it, we're here to make it. So if I've learned anything, especially last year, as quick as you win two games is as quick as you lose two games.
Starting point is 01:01:12 So just think on my experience and just because you've got to execute at a higher level. So with their season on the line Sunday, the Big Bo Daga took matters into his own hands, willing the Knicks back from another big deficit to make some history of their own. Let's take a look at the highlights. Tibbs made an adjustment to the Knicks starting lineup moving Josh Hart to the bench for Mitchell Robinson. The Knicks struggled to find their rhythm early shooting 35% from the field 22% from three in the first quarter.
Starting point is 01:01:40 Despite not having a turnover in the first 12 minutes the Knicks still trailed by four with Jaylen Brunton's 11 first-quarter points, including six free throws, keeping them in the game. So the Knicks dealt with multiple players in foul trouble, including Brunton, Kat, and Deuce McBride, who picked up three fouls in a little over a minute, forcing Tibbs to go deeper on his bench, with Dillon Wright and Landry Schimmett seeing meaningful minutes for the first time this postseason. The decision had Knicks fans scratching their heads and bitching on social media as New York found themselves in familiar territory down by as much as 20 in the second quarter as the Pacers went on a 13-0 run but the
Starting point is 01:02:12 Knicks closed the gap trail by 13 at the half Tyrese Halliburton led the Pacers with 20 points 7 assists and 3 steals. Miles Turner added 19 points. Siakam had 17 and 4 boards and TJ McConnell had 12 off the bench including 10 in the first half. So the Knicks appeared to be one loss closer to Cancun after a sluggish start to the second half as the Pacers extended their lead to 15 with a little over 2 minutes remaining in the third. Then Deuce McBride scored 7 straight points to help New York go on a run of their own.
Starting point is 01:02:40 So in an 8 minute stretch between the end of the third and start of the fourth quarter of the Knicks went on a 24 to 7 run Carlton He towns was playing with a heavy heart on Dominican Mother's Day Struggled to put the ball in the hoop the first three quarters But that wasn't a problem in the final frame Cast scored 20 of his 24 points in the fourth quarter 20 points is a career high for cat in any quarter of the playoffs Big bodega also added 15 rebounds in that and one dunk that gave the Knicks their first lead since the first quarter. So Brunson picked up his fifth foul with about seven minutes remaining. Did not return
Starting point is 01:03:10 until there was 137 left in the game but he finished with 23 points in the contest as we watched Kat Cook. So good you know we have some issues with Kat taking some of those long threes, but they found their way into the bucket. Let's get out of here. Like I said, Brunson was out a good stretch in the fourth quarter, had 23 points, none more important than the floater he hit. The minute 17 remaining to put the Knicks up to, he was 6 to 18 from the field, hit all 10 of his free throws, including two with eight seconds left to put the Knicks up for to help seal the win.
Starting point is 01:03:41 OG and Inobe added 16 to three blocks on six to nine, shooting Mikhail Bridges had 15 but was 6 to help seal the win. OG and Inobe added 16 and three blocks on six and nine shooting, McHale Bridges had 15, but was six to 18 from the field. Josh Hart was big in his bench roll with eight points, 10 rebounds and four dimes. Nicks are the first team in the play-by-play era with three 20 point comeback wins in a single playoff run with all three of those wins coming on the road.
Starting point is 01:04:00 So Kat lost his mother five years ago and after the game reflected on what it meant to ball out on Dominican Mother's Day. My mom's side of the family, everyone was hitting me up telling me they were going to be watching the game with my aunts. It just meant a lot that I was able to play on a day like today. Obviously, I didn't know my mom was expecting a game like tonight, but I'm just happy that this team is able to get a win on her day. Shout out to all my Dominicanos out there. Ain't no black.
Starting point is 01:04:33 So Cat played just five minutes in the fourth quarter of game two, had two points, responded with 20 in the fourth quarter of this game. So how impressive was, thank you for that, it has been a while since we've heard the da-da-da- the get it in the arena. So how impressive was Kat's 20 point fourth quarter on Dominican Mother's Day? First three quarters, since game two he was playing like literally puss in boots. Puss in boots. Have you ever seen the movie Puss in Boots? And he had one life left and he was scared to do anything. That's how he's been playing
Starting point is 01:05:08 Since game two, but you know I'm gonna give him his credit That he showed up in a fourth quarter. He did what he's supposed to do Against the players that's guarding him Right as he's supposed to do against the players that's guarding him. Right? As slow footed as you are, they can't keep up with you. And I don't understand why you sit here and take these far assed three pointers
Starting point is 01:05:37 randomly for no reason, because you're open when you can drive the whole time. So the fact that in the fourth quarter, you started driving, taking these guys off the dribble, realizing that's your advantage, kind of makes me feel like, hmm, hmm. Like this series would have been over
Starting point is 01:06:00 if you wouldn't have did that shit in game one, right? Chucking those threes in the eight minute mark could have just been driving, taking these guys to the hole. Game that shit in game one, right? Chucking those threes in the eight-minute mark could have just been driving taking these guys to the hole Game two is whatever game two but game three is like you you had four four points in the first three quarters Just shows man like when you're not engaged, dude, you're not engaged Like when you're really just out there floating you're You're no use to the team
Starting point is 01:06:25 just out there floating, you're no use to the team. And also like you can see that this is, these guys can't stay in front of you. Game four, this is how you finish the fourth quarter. That's how you're supposed to be starting this, the next game and every quarter after that. You know they got a lot to do with Brunson out there? Because when he was, when he started killing, Brunson was out there game. You know, they was able to go to him, he was able to,
Starting point is 01:06:50 you know what I'm saying, get some easier buckets and actually play like himself, you know, when they made that run where Brunson was out. It could be a lot of times because Brunson be holding the ball a lot. I know, he holds the ball a lot, but when Kat Duke get it, he settles. He settles like he shot, he shot a logo shot
Starting point is 01:07:07 for no reason. Just, just not, I'm sorry, not a logo, the half court, that, that logo, that, that, the center court. It is a logo. It is a logo. He shot one. I'm like, I don't really, I don't give a fuck if it goes in at this point, but why? It's not like you done hit three hit three of these bitches in a row.
Starting point is 01:07:26 And this is the shot you're taking? Like these are not good shots. This is the playoffs, this is not a regular season. The only reason you can do that against Pacers is because Pacers is gonna put enough possessions in the game where you can recover. But if you're playing against a team that they care about possessions,
Starting point is 01:07:45 you're not coming back from stuff like this. Every shot matters at this point. So he has to be really calculated on the shots he takes. Right, he's the wild chucker of the group. So Sonny, I see the body bag has made an appearance back. And Gills Rainer presented by Underdog Woo Woo. Woo Woo! It said Puss in Boots had two different movies where the cat was actually a gangster.
Starting point is 01:08:18 The cat's actually a gangster. He actually fucked some shit up in the movie. Thank you cat for being puss in boots. Dead body time man. Once upon a time not long ago there was two kids playing on the radio talking and saying somebody's name and wasn't supposed to say so I put two of these niggas on top of each other. So there's Gill and then there's Brandon on Gil's shoulders. In the body bag. Yeah, in the body bag.
Starting point is 01:08:49 And Brandon is the speaker, Brandon speaks. But he don't talk in coherent sentences. So he just mumbles a lot, because it's the duct tape that's stopping him from talking. So I said, Brandon, why don't you go over there and get on their team, and you do what I was gonna be on today. I ain't got a fresh new Jared Carolla.
Starting point is 01:09:08 You wanna come over here and try to fuck up my activator? But guess what? Nick's in six. Nick's in six. Lakers in five. Nick's in six. As long as we keep this Luca energy, this Gil Zempik is gonna get us right what we're supposed to do.
Starting point is 01:09:27 As we keep this Luca energy, as Gil Zempik is gonna get us right what we're supposed to do. I'm rogue baby. I'm rogue baby. Gil has returned to the Knicks bandwagon as a part of his 30 day trial date. Yeah. 17 of the trial. Yeah, whoever wins. Whoever wins.
Starting point is 01:09:43 No shame in my game. No shame. No shame in my game. Whoever wins whoever we Know shame my game Whoever wins, you know, you want my you want my support you gotta win I'm not fucking with no more losers in I told y'all winning the championship It was supposed to be for the purple and gold You bet you just join me then just come on cuz you can't duck me. I am don't duck me. I am don't duck just join. I'm joining Beat him join them. No, I'm a beat him join. I got I'm going for three. I'm joining man three teams You can't beat him join them. They should sell up to one. I got three teams. No, it's Negro. No, it's Negro
Starting point is 01:10:18 I got three teams right now. I got my old key seat, right? You know, I mean, I don't get out listen I'm going to a parade this year. Okay? I'm gonna be there. I don't give a fuck what day it is. All right, it can be Gil's Arena, there can be one of my kids birthday. I'm gonna be at the parade celebrating
Starting point is 01:10:41 the championship that we won. But Sonny, in all sincerity, you had a 20-point fourth quarter, obviously playing with a ton of emotion on Dominic's Mother's Day. As we mentioned, lost his mom five years ago. Came through with a marvelous performance, only four points total in the first three quarters,
Starting point is 01:10:58 20 in the fourth to help propel the Knicks to a win. How impressive is that to you? It was very impressive, and I don't want to take anything away from what he was able to accomplish on his mom's day, but I felt like that was more of a F you the tips. I think that when players are in that position that he was put in to sit and watch his team lose while he was on the bench
Starting point is 01:11:20 because the coach had a disagreement, it's ultimate fuck you when you come back. Like as soon as I get an opportunity to say fuck you, cool. But then what happened is Deuce McBride gets in foul trouble. Cat and Brunson get in foul trouble, which forces this bad coach to go to his bench. Which he then said that Landry Schamp and, and, um, the line, right where the ultimate professionals for not being able to, you know, be a part of the rotation and all of a sudden, cause we're down, gotta be a part of rotation, gotta be professional.
Starting point is 01:11:54 But if you would have been playing this rotation the whole season, they would have, it wouldn't have been no cough. It wouldn't have been no hiccup. It'd have been seamless transition. But coaches like him, you know, they stubborn. They're stubborn. They're so stubborn to the point where if we win, he won't credit. You don't get credit.
Starting point is 01:12:09 Cause those guys, they chomped it out. They made sure that they got it done. And I like the cat showed up, 20 points in the fourth. Listen, don't ever sit me down in the fourth ever. We supposed to be up two one right now. Like I said, Nixon six, but we got Tibbs. So I don't know what it might be Lakers in five, you know, I never know Tips I think me bride needs to play a little bit more. He's aggressive. He got in foul trouble though
Starting point is 01:12:33 I think he would play well three fouls in a one minute span First course that is that is absolutely absurd. They were gonna play him more buddy No, what I'm saying is that I've been playing like 25 minutes when I'm gonna see ain't playing long enough to foul out right so like him getting in foul trouble is really he's a backup point guard though yeah but as he don't back up like he don't play that much to to really care about his six fouls you know in 20 22 25 minutes he got eight point he's eight points but no that's what I'm saying. I like him because They can't guard him they he's too fast
Starting point is 01:13:12 He's too strong and he's explosive at the rim Which when he does drive, you know, he don't play with the ball like that when he goes he goes So when you're talking about a series you need need someone like, you have Brunton, and Brunton has his low ball game. And, you know, so they know, OK, Brunson's not going to straight line us. When he's in, you have to react like this, or he's at the rim, which will cause a lot more open shots.
Starting point is 01:13:37 It's like McCombs, like TJ McCombs. Like TJ comes in, right? So it's one of those things where they need to use him and Brunson sometimes at the same time Yeah, like like Neem Hart and McConnell Yeah play them to like you got both of them at the same time as like now like Brunson It goes to him and he just shoots to the rim and he's like it's it's a hard guard Right with Brunson, you know, he ain't really getting it. And if he do get to the rim, I can get to it. Yeah. Yeah
Starting point is 01:14:03 with him He might dunk on you. He tried to. He tried. He tried to dunk on me. What's his name? Nicks is stupid though. Just gonna just throw it out there. Just as a unofficial member of the New York Knicks organization. Y'all play stupid basketball sometimes. And you have said this previously on Gizle Representative 100. Like, cats fouls, dumb.
Starting point is 01:14:36 I don't even see real fouls. They just be doing dumb shit. Brunson, majority of his fouls are dumb fouls. Four fouls in the first half. But it's just stupid fouls. It just be these random just- They're tired fouls. I just can't. They're tired fouls.
Starting point is 01:14:50 Like you're coming through the lane, I'm pushing you, I'm holding, it's just like stop. It's tired. Like it's not even like what I'm saying, it's not even like aggressive fouls where you're stopping to play or you're in a bad position,
Starting point is 01:15:02 you want to hold a guy. It just be some off-brand. Why did you do that? I need a break. Off-brand. I gotta come back down. Wrestling with a nigga. No you want to do that. He can't always doing that. He could have fouled out yesterday. They didn't call a lot of that shit. Like even OG there was a pass that They ended up getting Fritos. They passed it to Siakam on a fast break. He's literally under the basket Can't shoot the ball. OG decides to try to shove him out of bounds. Nigga, where is he going? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:28 He can't go nowhere. He going to have to dribble the fuck out? He gave him two free throws for that stupid ass foul. It'd just be these little things, and then they have to be smarter on that challenge, because the challenge that they've lost both times, it cost them in game one, where they would have went up six,
Starting point is 01:15:47 right, they would have on the go, if they had the challenge, and they end up coming back down, they can't score, and that's, and then this game, they were up, they would have went up six, they would have went up six, where they thought Cat traveled,
Starting point is 01:16:02 when he didn't, but they didn't have a challenge there. Yep, I remember that. And then they came down to score. Like if you lose, you lose it because- They just wasted that. That's a four point turnaround. Yep, I remember that. And you know, it's, if you're a Nick fan,
Starting point is 01:16:19 you should be hopeful because in reality, you're playing, in the three games right you had a mishap in game one right but you you just like game three so it's it's an even swap out you was beating the ass in game one y'all fucked that off game three you hit shots you you you got on fire this not like they was making a whole bunch of turnovers doing a whole bunch of dumb shit to lose this game so this was you guys came back they had a second unit you had your second unit and your second unit just outplayed them, right? So you should be confident that you still could win a series, right?
Starting point is 01:17:09 They beat the game two, they beat you. That was a beat. Game one, you lost that game. Game three, you end up winning that game. And I look at it like, when you talk about the coaching of it and everything you're saying as far as wise, you look at game three and you look at game two.
Starting point is 01:17:31 Always look at game two as the difference maker because they could have won that game. Kat sitting the whole like fourth coming in with three minutes left. We don't know what that run would have looked like. And Neesmith in game one, like I I always said we were the better team in game one We let somebody come in and do something that he's not gonna duplicate At all we gave him the free range to hit shots in them in the late game and he did Game two we came in We wasn't aggressive to go in and take the game and then the coaching is just trying to figure out stupid shit at the wrong
Starting point is 01:18:03 Times cool game. We get down 20 points in the first half and everybody start, you know, cheering and shit, you know, like on playback how y'all was cheering and shit, all that shit. And then we know it's a game. We know it's a game of runs. We know it's a game of runs, right? So at halftime before I got the tweeting about the Knicks was about to be damn We about to I'm not going in there down. Oh three talking to these niggas in here. Oh three No way, you were not gonna come to work if the Knicks was gonna come to work I wasn't gonna say nothing. Okay. I was gonna be quiet So then we get to the fourth quarter this shit has got a whole new ring to it cuz we are still professional athletes
Starting point is 01:18:44 Game of runs get your stop make a run. I think the Kn we are still professional athletes. Game of runs, get your stop, make a run. I think the Knicks are a better team all around. I just think that Indiana Pacers got a better coach and that's the difference maker. So let's talk about coaching. So Tibbs moved Josh Hart to the bench in favor of Mitchell Robinson, also went deep into his bench with key rotational players and foul trouble. Did the Knicks win because of Tibbs or in spite of him? players and foul trouble. Did the Knicks win because of Tibbs or in spite of them? The Knicks won because the Pacers took their foot off the gas. They got too comfortable and sometimes with the Pacers they they're very stricky at times so if you can get them to play in a half-court game and and don't let them
Starting point is 01:19:19 have their pace you know they're not really that good. Also you know on the defensive end too you know with with the Knicks when they're when they're not really that good. Also, you know, on the defensive end too, you know, with the Knicks, when they're in the half court offense and they're moving the ball from side to side, playing fast, Pacers is kind of like, they're kind of lost. And then with Hiley out there, if you can get him in some actions and, you know, you can get some easy buckets on him and things like that. But with the Pacers, man, if they can keep their pace,
Starting point is 01:19:44 you know, they, like I said, they took their But with the Pacers, man, if they can keep their pace, like I said, they took their foot off the gas. And I just, I'm not really giving the Knicks that much leverage over the game. I just think the Pacers just got too comfortable for me. The Knicks fans in the building agree with that assessment? Yeah, and Pacers in five. So we asked the chat who wins the series, Mr. B.
Starting point is 01:20:10 48% said the Pacers. 31% said Knicks in seven. 21% said Knicks in six. So put those two Knicks things together? 52% of each other. We're giving three options. 52% of the chat opted for the two Knicks options. Got it.
Starting point is 01:20:26 We good. I mean, what Tibbs did, I don't know. The fuck was it for? What did he do? That's what we need to know. He subbed out what Hard and put Mitchell in, and that did what? Hard still played 34 minutes You doing that you doing that to start the game did what was down for to allow cat to play the four more
Starting point is 01:20:53 But cat only have four points in the first three quarters So when his ass went back to the five he balled out. Yeah. Yeah, so Because it was you know the first two quarters You know game one and, you won those quarters, which you're starting to line up. This time you lost it. I think Josh and I played 44 minutes in game one, but like we said, without the shenanigans
Starting point is 01:21:15 at the end of the game, Nick should have won that game. Yeah, I mean, listen, you didn't do anything wrong in game one, but got ahead of yourself at the eight minute market that's why I said I'm not I'm gonna watch the eight minute mark of that game because that's where like we was up Brunsons on the bench and everyone's just figured they want to play hero ball while we're winning like oh you know shit we up you know we gonna win this one let me go here get my little points and that's what that looked like you know and from there, just the basketball guys just at every moment,
Starting point is 01:21:47 missing free throws, free throws, almost a turn over here, almost a turn over here with the slip. There was a bunch of things that showed that this was about to be a disaster. Game two, probably just mismanaged it. Game three, he found a way to win it. just mismanaged it, game through, and you found a way to win it. Now, there's things in a series that you have to adjust to faster than they are adjusting to, right?
Starting point is 01:22:17 If Nese Smith, if he hits two shots in a row, that next shot, it switch it right you know you don't want him to get on the road that he did the first game if Halle is coming down playing ice or ball and he look like he's catching fire because once you catch fire that's you can tell when Halle's gonna be just a shooter tonight or a passer when he starts getting the shooting mode is like start start adjusting the game plan then same thing thing with Siakam. When Siakam looks like he is trying to take over the game, shut it down then. Don't let these
Starting point is 01:22:56 people go for 39, 40 if that's not what they do. If that's not what he does on a regular, then you have to shut it down faster than you are. That's the end game adjustments. And a lot of these coaches don't have end game adjustments. Right, if you got 30 at the half, at halftime, whatever, however you was playing, you should have switched it. But in the first quarter, you got 15 quickies in first,
Starting point is 01:23:22 whoever was guarding you, we're gonna switch, we're gonna double, we're gonna ice, so we're gonna switch we're gonna double we're gonna ice So we're gonna we're gonna ice it down like they're not adjusting fast enough and they're letting players get the fuck off Well, you look at scouting report, right? You started scouting report on the Knicks and you say shit, Thibs ain't even gonna play nine players on the baseball team Shout out Kenny Smith, right? So if that's the case and we know that on the other side, we have a roster full of motherfuckers y'all ain't even seen. Shepard, Big Boy Tony, what's the Big Boy 13, for the Pacers, the Senators, Bradley,
Starting point is 01:23:57 Tony Bradley. They got a bunch of guys that not only hit shots but they play hard. They don't drop the energy and now you have to try to make up for that. So you got big Tony Bradley come in there, Mitchell Robinson already halfway tired. You don't have a sub for him. So Bradley in there getting offensive rebound, just filling up space. Then you got Shepard hitting wide open shots. He's a sharpshooter. Nobody even knew he was a sharpshooter until you start to play it to what it is. Neesmith, Matheran, Neimhart, all these guys can play.
Starting point is 01:24:31 But then you look at the Knicks and you say, well, outside of Deuce and Josh, you got to play Cameron Payne and who else? Achua? PJ? You don't really- You said Hockchua? PJ? You don't really... You said Hock Chua? Precious A Chua.
Starting point is 01:24:51 Precious A Chua. She said Hock Chua? She there? She can be, she can be. You can come too, baby. But yeah, I'm just saying like when you look at the matchup on the bench side Rick Carlisle is using different strategies when you talk about, hey he ain't seen this yet, let's throw this at him.
Starting point is 01:25:12 We got plenty to work with here. Tim can't do that man, and he panicking. And I'm seeing it with Brunson and Cat being fatigued and foul trouble with them stupid ass fouls. Who we got to look for? Who you looking at? They looked for McBride last night. I'm rolling with that, though. Me too. But they ain't going to let him loose.
Starting point is 01:25:30 Because they made the run. But they made the run when Brunson was out. You know what's so funny? McBride. When that shit was moving, I was like, nasty. I know it ain't time to panic. And I don't know if I would have took Josh Hart out of the starting lineup. But if I'm going to pull somebody out, if I'm would have took Josh Hart out of the starting lineup.
Starting point is 01:25:45 But if I'm gonna pull somebody out, if I'm gonna take Josh Hart out, I don't pick McBrien. So you're saying McBride, Brunson, Bridges, OG and Cat. And the reason I would do that is this. The advantage is you only play a certain amount of players. You play eight to seven. Yep.
Starting point is 01:26:08 They know that, right? So what they're doing is pressing full court. You really only have one and a half dribblers. Like, you know, Hart can get it up there, but Brunson wants it because then he got to fight to get it back. So they're going to tire Brunson out, then they're going to push it. Tire. Then they're going to push it tire Brunson out and push it right.
Starting point is 01:26:26 You don't have anybody going like who who is Halle guarding? That's putting pressure on him heart. If hearts guarding him, you need to be going at him. Get him to get him in foul trouble. Only person that can do that and offset how they play. Bray is McBride. You picking up full court And my bright has the ball. That's a fast break 100 every single time 100% and
Starting point is 01:26:52 Brunson can condense his energy cuz let him dribble up the court speed down I can trail get in half court the game moves faster But if Brunson is coming down sitting here doing wasting energy What you know sitting here beating them down because he's not using full speed, by the time you even get in the half court, it's 12 seconds left. Bro, and the energy... Now, now it's like, oh shit, gotta drop, gotta, gotta try to score. You can see him...
Starting point is 01:27:16 So I brought him, yeah, start... Like I remember, like I remember when we was playing the Bulls, and it had that awkward lineup up sometimes where they'll have Heinrich, Heinrich, Ben Gordon, Ben and they'll put in who they had they had Nate, no Duke or Nate, oh Duhan, Duhan,, Heinrich and Ben. They put all three of them in. Yeah. Right? Because you know, we're pressing it on them. But they're curling and they're doing all kinds of shit. Right? I mean, so it was offsetting us and we had to go into a zone because we were trying to stay as big as possible. Yep, and they driving and they all small. Yep.
Starting point is 01:27:59 So, Mr. B, you talked about Brunson being ball dominant. So Brunson's putting together another dominant playoff run as well average at 30 points 7 This is for rebounds through 15 games this postseason So after the Pacers game to win Jeff T had this to say about Brunton on his club 520 show You know how to niggas lose these games bro Jaylen Brunson host a ball for the shot clock is 24 second He's holding that bitch for 17 Trying to get a pick and roll get bring another dude bring another dude I'm going one on one I'm going on one if he don't make it it's like fuck you know I mean
Starting point is 01:28:33 mr. clutch bro he go feel like she is mr. clutch plays for Indian patience Tyrese Oliver got to work it's the way he hold the ball they don't get no rhythm like That's why when they he comes out the game all of a sudden the pace pick up the tempo pick up also You see people start hooping a little bit. He hold the ball so long. He's a great player Hell of a player he makes tough shots He does all that but he hold it for 18 seconds and then they get one attempt Luckily Mitchell Robinson be in the game and they might get a second and some of these guys get a Shot attempt because he got an offensive rebound, but other than that
Starting point is 01:29:10 He got the ball for 18 seconds. It's like no way in hell. I want a hoop like that So mr. B do you agree with Jeff T saying Brunson is two ball dominant? Yeah Yeah, and I think he he he spends a lot of time wasting a lot of energy bringing up the ball I think if they start McBride and come off some down screens and some different actions to where he won't have to work so hard And I think that's one of the reasons why he's always in foul trouble Because he is fatigue But you know when when the Knicks was making that run in the second half like I said when they play inside out I think I think the Pacers are all confused because they're moving the ball from side to side and
Starting point is 01:29:47 when that ball movement became it's nothing you can do defensively. Brunson picked up his fifth foul about seven minutes remaining the game came back with 137 discourse and big buckets though. My thing is this with with how Brunson plays you're the guard who's guarding you can't guard you, right? Why do you waste so much time trying to get someone else? You're using a pick to get someone else. Just to switch back on him. It doesn't make sense. You love going against a smaller guard or someone that's equal size or just a little bit taller because you can still shoot over them. You can hit them.
Starting point is 01:30:29 Like, so if, if Neesmith is on you, if TJ's on you, if Halley's on you, right? Those guys are lunch meat for you, right? For you and how you play, those guys are easy work. What do you you why are you bringing in other players to get them off you to get the same type of person on you to then switch again and get the same turn like if the guy is lunch meat on you just isolate him and go make it a faster game for you it just
Starting point is 01:31:02 it's just weird I know you want the fuck if the big is on me or the guard is on me. Both y'all getting this work. I don't give a fuck who's guard. I don't give a fuck who's guard. I don't give a fuck who's guard. I don't give a fuck who's guard. I don't give a fuck who's guard. I don't give a fuck who's guard.
Starting point is 01:31:20 I don't give a fuck who's guard. I don't give a fuck who's guard. I don't give a fuck who's guard. I don't give a fuck who's guard. I don't give a fuck if the big is on me or the guard is on me. Both y'all getting this work. Right, if I'm a jump shooter, I want the smaller of the two. Right, I'm not gonna, like if I have,
Starting point is 01:31:36 you know, let's say, Connell? No, let's say if I have, let's say Shay on me, I'm not gonna do a pick to get Chet on me. I don't want Chet on me. Okay. Because it's, yeah, it's a harder task.
Starting point is 01:31:52 Who the fuck do I want Chet on me for? Yeah, you do longer and all that. I'm sitting here trying to, and now I gotta, now he's seven foot, I gotta try to figure out how to shoot over there. Now I'm gonna shoot over you, over you. Right? No, I'm gonna shoot over you. Right, it depended on what, like you gotta have a, you gotta have in your mind what you're doing.
Starting point is 01:32:10 That's why I said some of these guys don't understand the profession, like the people who are experts at scoring, the Cobies, the Michaels, they didn't play the same game versus everybody. They had different packages for everybody. And I don't know, Brunson, you do have a package against guards. I see all your moves. I got a lefty. I'm trying to teach him the same shit that you're doing.
Starting point is 01:32:33 Right? You have a package. Exhaust that package against them little-ass guards. When McConnell gets in and he sees you, he's driving. Because what he does know is when he gets down there, you can't block a shot, even though you're all the same height, you just don't have the athleticism to block it. So he ain't even gonna fucking pump fake you.
Starting point is 01:32:52 He gonna get in there and then just jump, knowing that you can't reach up there. Right, you can see the game plan out, right? You can make it simple for you. And the only way you can make it simple for you is you put McBride in, let him relieve some of that pressure. The fact that he can shoot the fuck out that ball.
Starting point is 01:33:10 And athletic. Athletic. That means now what they're gonna have to do is say, ah shit, Neesmith, you guard McBride, Halley, you guard Brunson. Who will give you some help. He can't. Yeah, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:33:24 But it just goes on. He will have to guard. See, that's what I'm saying. You'll give you some help. He can't. Yeah. No, no, no. No, no. No, no. No, no, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. Stay on heart, but this is gonna take four shots cool to me this never gonna fall out It's coaching one-on-one bro
Starting point is 01:33:45 Like coaching one-on-one is putting your players in the best position to succeed the best players on the floor They got the mismatches. How are we gonna put this guy in his best position? Alright, like you just said Brunson Advantage on all three point guards that they have all three of them. He will kill them There should not be a pick and roll with a guard to guard ever. I don't care how stagnant you think it is, everybody just likes running into a pick and roll
Starting point is 01:34:12 and sliding off. It's dumb, it's stupid, it never works. Unless you wanna actually have the other guy guard you. Then you look at pick and roll with Kat. Brunson pick and roll with Kat. When have we seen it? I haven't. When have we seen a pick and roll with Kat Brunson pick and roll with Kat. When have we seen it? I haven't. When have we seen a pick and roll with Kat and Brunson where he rolls and he passes and he scores.
Starting point is 01:34:30 Maybe once or twice. Or even on the side pick and roll. We talk Carl Malone, John Stockton pick and roll hit the little mid two boom I hit you ha I got it mismatch whatever we don't see none of that to me it's not up to the players to do that. It's the coach putting you in position. Brunson. We're gonna run you on the post tonight We're running you on all post. I will be Carmelo Anthony mid post turn face. I got this whoever come I got you y'all I got this all night They can't they got a pre knee Smith on me and knee Smith is on me Holly
Starting point is 01:35:02 That means you're guarding McBride, you're guarding Hart. Y'all gotta now be aggressive with who's on you. It's a mismatch game now. He's not offensive coach. But that's exactly what they should do. To get him from fucking with the ball like that, have somebody else bring the ball, go right into the post. Right into the post.
Starting point is 01:35:22 Mid, post, logo, post, right there. Down screen. All that shit. Go right into the pole right into the mid post logo post right there down screen all you know to me Just make it a simple game at certain parts of the game Yes, because he will exhaust his dribble and I don't know if they notice How they pick play to pick and roll in the first three quarters now how they played in the last four minutes Like they're more aggressive up. Yeah, and that's where he gets stuck in there's like in the office all the way to the fucking half court line. Are you like why y'all? That's why I be screaming trap.
Starting point is 01:35:49 I'm like trap. I'm like travel. It's like it's either you get you get that pick and roll at the three-point line or you get it in the back court. Yeah to get them off you all the way. Yes. Do not get it in the front court at the half court because if they decided to trap your ass there you're done because you're not playing on no you're not playing on passing it or picking the ball
Starting point is 01:36:08 up because they didn't do that the first three quarters and he's getting lucky because they're not doing it oh that's a that's a that's a that's a player thing too if me if i see you guarding him and you about to turn i'm just gonna go i'm just gonna i'm gonna tell you i'm like hey when you turn them i'm gonna gonna go. I'm so surprised. It's like man, there's If If siakam was in the pick and roll, I think he naturally immediately he would naturally at the half court Trapped we got it
Starting point is 01:36:38 even if that's not part of the game plan because he's left-handed Right, and then he's he's going this way, and then he tries to turn back, get that! We got it! And then if we pick it up, this is what the problem is with Siakam. Cause he don't split pick and rolls either. Siakam knows.
Starting point is 01:36:52 He don't split, no. Siakam knows that when we jump this, everybody is alert to the next pass away. Hopefully. So that's championship ball. Hopefully though. So, for him, that's why he hasn't done it, cause they ain't on the line.
Starting point is 01:37:04 That's what I'm saying. And I be screaming at every time. Jump it he hasn't done it because they ain't on the line. And I don't and I be screaming every time. I don't know why he trapped Brunson like he just coming off dancing. Yep. I'm like travel one time. That's how we play at 20 like sometimes I'll get a certain teams and play a 24-hour fitness and I'm just just go jump. I just go jump like I just got to turn it over. That's like we March Madness out here. We're going to scramble it up to make you muck up your offense to try to think like what are they doing now we ain't doing that we just
Starting point is 01:37:28 chilling jump them now we just chilling man but they indiana is making uh the the nicks game a little bit easier because like you said they took their foot off the gas they were pushing up for three quarters then they eased up in the fourth so to me me as Duke defense, that's a Duke type of system where it's fluff Until we huff puff it blow that bitch down. It's like all y'all motherfuckers are just out here Just hustling hard and that's because that pace has stopped. Yeah, well you got them playing half court off They look it's kind of like it's nasty You got you got miles turn out here shooting from Steph Curry range too. And the other one too. Him and Kat. They both trying to...
Starting point is 01:38:07 You score, I'ma score. It's like, bro. Chill. Relax. Nobody couldn't see. They both be all through the same. Like even Mikael and Kat, like it's literally like they're all playing their own basketball game. Yes.
Starting point is 01:38:23 It's not like this... Like... their own basketball game. It's not like this, like, you guys, the game needs you. Let OG, let OG and Mitchell sit, or Hart sit on the weak side, doing some weak side shit, right? You three should always be on the same side. So if there's a trap, my first outlet is my second option.
Starting point is 01:38:46 It shouldn't have to, I get trapped, it goes to you, you, and then, the second best player gets it here. It should be, for me, straight to you, you attack. Make a move. Right, cause now, you're on the four on three. If you give it to Hart, like you saying. Give it to Hart, now Hart gonna try to look at you.
Starting point is 01:39:03 He gonna be hesitant, yeah, yeah, I get it, for sure. And that's the thing. Like, it could be a little bit easier you putting the guys on the same side, making sure they're playing some type of three-man motion. Because if you got, if Cat Brunson and McKill are on the same side, now it's hard to double any one of them. Yep.
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Starting point is 01:41:04 was snapped in game three and the Pacers dropped to 0-4 all time in games held the same day as the Indy 500, which was earlier that day. So what was the Pacers' biggest problem in their game three loss to the Knicks? Oh, just said it. They took their foot off the gas. In Indiana, they're very good when they have more than three people in double double figures and scoring they only had three usually they have maybe six or seven but yeah man they you know they just took their foot off the gas
Starting point is 01:41:35 they they wouldn't doing what they usually do they Nick stopped the pace when when the Knicks took out Brunson they were able to make that run and it wasn't able to you know flip the switch back again. Yeah, so Neal Smith and Nebhart, both single digits of the starting unit. TJ McConnell did have 12 off the bench. So it's four Pacers and double figures in that game. But shot over your side, obviously. Knicks fan, but what was the Pacers biggest problem in their game three loss
Starting point is 01:42:02 to the Knicks? Probably Kait Caitlin Clark. You know, she got a... Uh oh. Damn, I thought it was real. Huh? Oh, you know, I'm just like a woman. I got some fake shit.
Starting point is 01:42:17 Got some real shit. I'm gonna hide some shit and I'm gonna reveal some shit. But yeah, am I right? I'm Kailyn Clark. I'm all right, Kailyn? All right, we're good. So yeah, Kailyn, she messed up the mojo for the Pacers, man. I think, you know, once she went down, it just rippled.
Starting point is 01:42:37 It was a ripple effect. And then it just fucked everything up from there. Everybody in the whole stadium felt it. They knew right away. It's like, as soon as it happened, it was's like she not gonna show up to the game now. Now, what we gonna do now? What we gonna do now? She can't come in and shoot no jumpers.
Starting point is 01:42:55 You know what I'm saying? So I think Indiana man, the fan base, they're gonna have to do a lot more than they did last game. Rick Carlisle gonna have to figure out, you know, which mustache band is gonna say today. Which mustache band? They need some better people courtside. Better people courtside?
Starting point is 01:43:14 You know, they need some more stars. They got stars. They got stars. That's my only thought. They ain't got no, listen, they got all the stars. Rick Smith's not a star? I mean, in my caps, but they like that was my everybody at People at the game own shit
Starting point is 01:43:37 Membership and then I was like, yeah, who's your stars and some of the names that had I'm like, yeah He was Person a star. He just a normal person. He stars If you didn't put his name you would not Him yeah Davis no Yeah, but Rick you got he you got Rick is seven foot four. He looked like a regular ass white man in that crowd. I'm looking at Yeah, that's Rick
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Starting point is 01:44:52 The cast of Hangtime perhaps? Hangtime. Okay. Nobody? It was part of the bloodshower. Say by the bell first season. The bigger star here is somebody who said really sit around. The whole couch brand they own all that couch shit.
Starting point is 01:45:17 Shout out to hang time. Reggie this. Dick buckets. My dad actually audition for that did not get the wrong. Oh, hey Reggie. This were the finalist for Hank time shot at the Anderson Anthony and his career Superman Brody for those who are living there bird show up. No Larry the legend. He wasn't there Yeah, one of his kids at least we ain't a gym. Jalen Rose wasn't there like Jalen Rose wasn't there like
Starting point is 01:45:58 So I want to see the celebrity fans not the XABA play yeah, okay Hey Duke Dennis Duke Dennis and them need to be at these games and shit well dreamers Oh, I'm a Duke and them need to be at these games and shit. These dreamers, I'm a Duke, them. They from Indiana? I don't even care where they at, just buy in. Duke come into the game and shit. A grand wizard or somebody, but crowd aside. Grand wizard?
Starting point is 01:46:14 They was there. Y'all don't know the history of Indiana, okay. All right, okay. It's Indiana, okay, see I'm a little worried. They was there, we just didn't notice them when I put it. We don't know Indiana history, all right right but crowd aside on the court. What was the biggest problem in the game? Okay in in real shit game one Someone took over
Starting point is 01:46:49 Right late they played team basketball But someone took over. Yeah in in game one date, you know what I mean? Howly, you know, no, oh nice miss going these two took over and how they finish again Game two siakam siakam dominated. Game three, they played team basketball. That's it. So let's move that forward. Pacers have a balanced scoring attack. Like you said, Siakam showed he could be a number one option in game two with those 39 points. Should be number one option. Should be. He should be. Pacers struggled to keep up with the Knicks in clutch time in this game so
Starting point is 01:47:21 how much would not having a true number one option hurt this Pacer squad for the remainder of the playoff? So when Gil said that, I think a lot of us could agree with that, especially coming from Toronto, what his expectation was as an option. It wasn't be number two. It was, bro, you're the guy. Holly is he developed yet. We gotta figure something out. You lead.
Starting point is 01:47:48 But I didn't realize Siakam was a New York dude. Like, he grew up, I guess he played, and he from New York. So I'm watching this little video of him talking to his teammates. I'm like, he ain't from no camera room. From Africa. That man ain't got no, ain't none of that with him. That nigga's
Starting point is 01:48:08 straight up, man. You heard it, you heard it. I'm like, yo, okay, cool. So then he go to New York and he have 38. What is 38? 39. 39 in New York. 40. In New York, he went crazy. Go back home, he went back to his self. In New York, he went crazy. Go back home, he went back to his self. He went back to Ken Rude. He went back to Ken Rude. He went right back.
Starting point is 01:48:31 He was like, New York is his, I'ma prove to y'all, yeah, yeah, yeah, that was his energy. And I've told the homies, I said, man, he not gonna, see, I come not built like that to show up like that every game because he looks kinda like he's the number one option. He don't like that. I never saw him as a number one option. You didn't know coming in on Indiana. No, I know even with the with the Toronto. I just thought he played it like he played.
Starting point is 01:48:54 He played his role. He was with he was with Kyle. Larry is with you know, Kawhi Leonard, but I never saw him as a dominant like number one. No, but that okay. So what happened number two option on it was a number two kind of like three It was a ballast dream, but how he played in the playoffs being a young dude that just got there I think he average what 1920 in a playoff dream on bro when when Kawhi left We got we got yeah, we got
Starting point is 01:49:24 22 a game was you talking about? He averaged 20 in the playoffs. You lead, he's going to be feeling. He's going to be our mega star. Yeah, because nobody's there. And that wasn't there. No, Kamar was there. No, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:49:32 When Kawhi left. When Kawhi left, it was supposed to be him to average the 28, the 29. He was supposed to make that jump. And he just stayed the same. 20, 21, 22. That was it. And I think it was the perfect play right there. It was the perfect play right there.
Starting point is 01:49:40 And I think it was the perfect play right there. And I think it was the perfect play right there. And I think it was the perfect play right there. And I think it was the perfect play right there. And I think it was the perfect play right there. And I think it was the perfect play right there. And I think it was the perfect play right there. And I think it was the perfect play right there. And I think it was supposed to make that jump. And he just stayed the same, 20, 21, 22. That was it. And it was the leap he was supposed to, when Pacers got him, it was basically like,
Starting point is 01:49:53 yo, be the number one. We got a point guard. He got vision. He can see. He can pass. But we need you to be that half-court score that's just going to consistently be like it being he's consistent at average in 18 to 12 yes yes he is what he's what brah so number
Starting point is 01:50:14 two Jalen Brown no no no no no no no Jalen's like he's like impactful. He's going to get 17. That's it. He just, damn it. Wiggins. Wiggins or Butler. Jimmy James. He's Wiggins before Wiggins got the gold. He guarantee 18, 19 for the season. He's got a guarantee.
Starting point is 01:50:37 But it's never like, woo, he's out here destroying folks. It's just a consistent 19 to 20. I don't, I need spurts of greatness. I need you to step in and let me see. What he did last, what he did game two, I need that at least three times. That's probably his biggest game in the playoffs. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:51:00 Probably in what, the last what? Five years. Come on, five years, come on. That's not his best game? Five years. Like on. Five years, come on. That's not his best game? Five years. Like, when have you ever looked at a stat sheet and say, oh, this nigga was killing it tonight? It's been a minute.
Starting point is 01:51:12 You can't just think that instantly, too. But like, he had 25 yesterday, he had 27 tonight. But I just think it's the team that he's on. They're all seven different people. Who's more balanced team, them or Cleveland? Who's a more balanced team? Yeah. Cause Cleveland is a balanced team, multiple all-stars.
Starting point is 01:51:33 Yeah, yeah, I mean all-stars, yeah all-stars. But you know Donovan Mitchell, you know Donovan Mitchell at any point could go for 40, 50. With the team he has, if one of those dudes is out, 50-70. Garland can give you 30. If Garland's gone or what's-the-name, 50-70. But just with his starting five, you know, you know he gonna have at least anywhere from 22 to 30 just on a normal night. And if he got to take it over in the fourth quarter, he gonna have 40.
Starting point is 01:52:00 With Siakam, like that 39 is like so play you are capable Playoff career high 39 points I think siakam has had six 30 point games in his career three have come in the last two postseason stuff That's two postseason. Yeah, well, I look at siakam as this type of player No, you look at siakam and you say why is it that you shy away from the spotlight on a team that needs a spotlight? They need somebody, right? They pick Holly. But you were the guy that we thought was going to come in here and do what we need to do.
Starting point is 01:52:30 He took this as an opportunity to play Jimmy Butler. You got a solid team. If I step up and try to be the man, it might fuck up the chemistry. But if I insert myself as one of the guys that they can look up to, it be like, nah bro, we just gonna play. Everybody, we need y'all to understand
Starting point is 01:52:48 the mechanism of our system. Everybody can play, everybody can shoot, everybody can, that's the type of guy Siaka is. He don't, like if he can give you 39, it'll feel good for him because we won, yay. But he's like, that was uncomfortable. That was uncomfortable. But I'm in New York and it feel good because
Starting point is 01:53:06 I'm in New York and they know I can hoop but I'm not going to do 39 again unless we need it. They need it. Unless we need it. I mean that's it's and it's in Indiana. So it's going to be hard for him to get it in Indiana. He can get it in New York though because ain't no pressure. It's just it's a balancing thing. See, if Siakam is scoring, Halle's not controlling the game.
Starting point is 01:53:28 100%. Right? If Halle has to control the game, that means Siakam ain't popping. He ain't gonna get the ball either. He ain't doing much. Like, Siakam, your game is the one-on-one aspect of the game. Halle's game is team ball, right? If you go back to any players,
Starting point is 01:53:49 one of the guys is playing iso ball, the other player is playing team basketball. The problem with the Knicks is one is playing iso and they don't have someone who's trying to play team ball. Yep. Yep. And that's what kind of- OG kinda. But yeah, but- He ain't- But that's why I said- But OG, he scared us Yacom. Yeah, he scared us. Fuck us Yacom. It is a but yeah, but he ain't but that's why he scared us. Yeah. Yeah, he's scared as fuck It's yeah, it is little bro, but you talk about Siaka performing in New York. He had a career high So you can get your back is what they played together in school Siakam was credit's career high 52 points in MSG back in 2020 I love in MSG in MSG 50 to in New York. What's up? So, you know what's coming game five?
Starting point is 01:54:23 You got you. You got to have it So we talked about the lack of star power in indianapolis at the Pacers game But according to shams there will be one more person coming back for game four Tyrese Halliburton's pops will be allowed to attend Pacers home games in a suite beginning with game four tuesday So Hallie's pops was suspended for the Pacers last eight playoff games Following a confrontation with Yannis back on april after Indiana eliminated Milwaukee from the playoffs good to see Halle Byrne's pops suspension Lifted for game four. Yep. They said his daddy couldn't come to the game. Yeah now they said he can come back Yeah, the biggest star that's gonna be in there
Starting point is 01:55:02 The camera gonna be on him all night The biggest star the camera go the camera gonna be on him all night all that He's probably the third most important or famous pacer facts John Halliburton back Arena for game four. We'll see how that impacts the Pacers moving forward in the series. No, I just it's just I mean it's a thing, man. I don't really believe in, like, proving the point, you proved the point. It's still the environment that, you have to assess what happened on the court,
Starting point is 01:55:40 not what could have happened. I thought he got punished because of what possibly could have happened, right? Instead of what happened? He ran on the court, he's celebrating in front of Giannis, him and Giannis is face to face, right? Whatever happened, obviously it wasn't that aggressive if Giannis finishes off, love you too or love you and then move on. Like my suspension or whatever is going off of Yannis' behavior because Yannis is the victim
Starting point is 01:56:11 at this moment in time. So if Yannis finishes off the statement with you know, I love you and kept it moving, okay, whatever they was talking about we don't know but it couldn't have been that aggressive, right? He could have apologized on my fault, you know, I know what you mean and that's how they finished you know, but it couldn't have been that aggressive, right? He could have apologized on my fault, you know, I know what you mean. And that's how they finished, you know, that conversation.
Starting point is 01:56:28 How it started seemed aggressive, but how it finished, boom, right? There's nothing here. Maybe a quick little fine. Hey, man, don't do that again. This is a warning. Or $10,000, $10,000, we're going to treat you like a motherfucker player. $10,000 or $50,000 and your son,000 fine, we gonna treat you like a motherfucking player.
Starting point is 01:56:45 $10,000 or $50,000 and your son pay for it, we keep it moving, right? Because that right there, $50,000 fine and the son gotta pay, he gonna smile, all that shit, pay, you never gonna do that again. But blowing it up to the point where you're suspending him, now he's there, now he's having fun, he's still a parent, still a he's still a parent
Starting point is 01:57:05 Nope, he's still a fan of his son first. Yeah, and I think sometimes as the the media who's not in that position I don't think they understand that part of it. I don't think they really understand You know the john moran father, you know t moran, you know, T. Morant, you know, you got John here, you have... the Balls father. You don't... LaVar. LaVar, you don't have the guy who actually,
Starting point is 01:57:35 genuinely fucks with their kids' game. Have you noticed the ones who get the bad rap are the actual ones who actually support their kids in a positive way? Always. Right, it's, these are, they're proud of what their child is doing. Just like the other fucking 20,000 people are,
Starting point is 01:57:54 who are in the crowd. Yeah, but the other 20,000 are running up on Yannis, holding a Hallie Tows. So nobody ran up on Yannis before? Fans didn't come on a crowd. Yeah With the hell I think the Halley towels with I mean, but it's Nothing happened. So I can't the Yonah's put a lot on that. No, I think it was not put on for John to get Like that because if you don't lose like this in the first round,
Starting point is 01:58:26 third straight year, you don't respond like that. You don't even care if there's motherfuckers in front of your face and boo and boo. It was a lot of emotions, a lot of things. But I think that moment, because John has overreacted, put this dude in harm's way with everybody else. You mean the interview? No, I'm talking about the interaction with the towel,
Starting point is 01:58:44 and then he went and grabbed him And then he grabbed somebody else and he was just going through grabbing people Yeah, we lost cuz of you no no no no you come here you know cuz you okay, you do very strong grip It has to be everybody get it It has to be, it has to be. Everybody get it. It has to be. You can't penalize for our opinion. Right.
Starting point is 01:59:11 You know, our opinion is he shouldn't have did that and that this could have been worse than it was. It could have been. It was. But it wasn't. Right. Right. So I can only, I can only penalize you for what happened. So you running on the court,
Starting point is 01:59:31 technically what you did, you ran on the court is indefinite suspension? No. No. Seen it before. Right, done it plenty of times. And ain't nobody was touched, nobody was harmed. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:59:43 He was at a distance. He was at a distance. Just cause I'm sitting here doing this, that is not out back in the front. It was the handshake in the head, it was the handshake in the leg. This nigga, he was like, any Mike. But that's both of them having a conversation, talking, talking shit, that's between them two.
Starting point is 01:59:56 Like me, if I'm the commissioner, I'm only, there's only one person I'm asking, fuck everybody's opinion. Hey, Giannis. Was it that over for you? How did you feel? What do you do? Do you think I should suspend him? How many games?
Starting point is 02:00:09 I'm gonna ask the person who was involved that can hear it. Well, Giannis said- And Giannis would have been like, no, it wasn't even that. It was his teachers. Because they did embrace it, I love you bro. Look, I ain't mean to disrespect you. That was disrespectful, man.
Starting point is 02:00:21 Don't disrespect me like that. Okay, my bad bro, relax. We in next time. We look forward to seeing Halliburton's pops back in the arena for game four but let's move over to the Western Conference of Thunderwolves game four tonight but let's talk about Lakers. I know I'm getting kicked out. Not yet. Talking Lakers. We are talking skinny Luke in just a moment. Lakers. I already know I can't even be front row Put them in a suite put me in a suite see what happens when you get You cross this line again. Do not cross this line again.
Starting point is 02:01:06 I remember when Junior was like, you a father first. No, nigga, I was a fan before this nigga was born. Before he was even daughter, I was a fan first. So I'm a fan first, father second. Now he came to the Lakers. Oh, don't even. All right, well, let's shift over. What?
Starting point is 02:01:27 Oh, you want everybody. You want everybody. You can't get everybody. Just ban me from the building. Oh, yes. Oh, just ban me from the building. Oh, no, I'm not going to act right. No, that's 29 years of fucking.
Starting point is 02:01:41 Yeah, you shouldn't. And you shouldn't act right. Just ban me from the bill don't even all right well let's go how me and that bitch just say you know what we already know what type of energy you own just stay at home man you know how i'm gonna ask you i'm over there try and i'm gonna just go get two clipper tickets to the laker game all right well let's shift over to the western conference finals game for tonight uh before game two of the western conference finals sga was presented with the MVP trophy,
Starting point is 02:02:06 then proceeded to deliver an MVP performance with a playoff career high 38 points to help the Thunder take a 2-0 lead in the series. Ant-Man had 32-9 and 6 dimes for the Wolves, but it was a tough night for Julius Randall, who had his worst game of this playoffs with 6 points and a fourth quarter benching. So with the series shifted to Minnesota for game three, the Wolves' backs were against the wall, but their offense dismantled the league's top rated defense with a record setting scoring explosion to help their hopes of reaching the first finals of franchise history alive. Let's take a look at the highlights. If we can please Palo. Wolves came out on fire on
Starting point is 02:02:37 both ends of the floor jumping out to a 25-9 lead, which was their largest lead of the series to that point. It would get worse. Anthony Edwards set the tone dropping 12 points in the first seven minutes of the game outscoring OKC by himself in the first quarter with 16 points on six of eight shooting including three of five from three. Minnesota for six turnovers scoring 11 of their 34 points off the Thunder's miscue to take a 20-point lead after the first quarter. The Thunder's 14 points was the fewest in any quarter this season. They were 6-21 of the field, 2 of 11 from deep in that quarter. So rookie Terrence Shannon Jr. kept Minnesota rolling in the second quarter,
Starting point is 02:03:10 scoring five straight points to an increase of the lead to 25. Shannon Jr. had six points total this postseason entering game three, put up nine points in four minutes in this game. He finished with 15 on five of eight shooting in 13 minutes. Rest of the Wolfs bench came alive as well. Nasri came through with 10 points, knocking down all four of his shots, 15 on 5 of 8 shooting in 13 minutes. Rest of the Wolves bench came alive as well. Nasri came through with 10 points knocking down all four of his shots including two 3s in the first half.
Starting point is 02:03:29 And to kill Alexander Walker at a 12 points on 5 of 9 shooting. Wolves shot a blistering 56% from the field, 47% from 3. Took a 31 point lead into the break. So Minnesota 72 points was the most in their playoff history for any half. Meanwhile the Thunder shot 30% of the field 26% from 3 in the first half. Things just got worse for OKC in quarter number 3. Ant-Man finished with a game-high 30 points along with 9 boards and 6 assists. He was 12 for 17 from the field, 5 for 8 from beyond the arc, played just 3 quarters. Julius Randall added 24
Starting point is 02:04:03 points on 9 of 16 shooting and Jaden McDaniels had 10 points and five boards. SGA was held to a season low 14 points on four 13 shooting. He shot 29 free throws in the first two games, but only had four attempts total in game three. Jalen Williams had 13 on three of nine shooting and Chad Holmgren had 10 points and five rebounds. As the Thunder suffered the worst blowout in their franchise history. We
Starting point is 02:04:29 see it on the screen right now 42 points. So the Wolves 143 points is the most in franchise history. They improved a 5-1 at home this postseason. That's out Julie Randall doing his thing. So after the game Ant-Man had this reaction to the Wolves dominant performance at their crib. Going into game four does it feel like different series now considering what you guys did tonight? No we still down. It's just one win. Can't get too high on it don't get too low just got to try to win another one man his team they're best team in ABA so gotta be able to beat this team more than one time and it's gonna be tough So we're changed for the wolves in game three Like I said 42 point blowout back at the crib against the league's top rated defense
Starting point is 02:05:13 Ant-man Ant-man came out aggressive was getting to the rim early. He played with a lot of urgency You know, they have any chance of winning this series is all up to Ant-man Rudy Rudy he's look like he's trying to play himself off the court. You know, he's going to, I mean, eventually he's going to have one game, a series, to where it's like, you know, it's like, oh, that's the Rudy, but I mean, other than that. You know, saying like, that's the four time, you know, all the fame. But, yeah, man, this is all on Ant. You know, when he comes out like that, but. OK, blue.
Starting point is 02:05:45 Yeah, man, this is all on that. When he comes out like that, but I mean, from top to bottom, OKC is definitely the better team. We see that for sure, but OKC just didn't show up this game. OKC, in your opinion, still the better team. Let's move over to Money Making Sonny. I disagree. OK, spray him down.
Starting point is 02:06:04 Spray him down. I mean, look, spray him down. Spray him down. I mean look, Ant Edwards even in that interview is showing so much more maturity from game one. Trying to figure out the defense and all that kind of stuff. I think what I was just seeing out of him now is remembering Kobe up 2-0 and asking how you feel, job not done, job not done. One game is one game, the best team in the league, we got to do more. I think his energy that he came out with was special because he knows the urgency of being down and if you go down another one, I mean it's pretty much over. So I think with Ant's leadership and his maturity right now in this
Starting point is 02:06:47 moment for this next game is going to be monumental because I look at OKC the same as I do in Indiana. It's all fluff. It's all energy. It's young high energy and they're doing what they're told. So when you you put them down and they face adversity, they're going to look to their leader who doesn't really, he doesn't really know what to do. So I think OKC can be, they can jump on OKC if they smack them in the face first like they did. They show that they're together as a team and they put pressure on those
Starting point is 02:07:21 guys when they're playing high intensity defense and just go by them. It's the first line of defense. Once you get past that fluff defense, they break down and you see you can win by 30 on them. Just jump on them when they're down. So Ant-Man, 13 shots in game one, say he needed to shoot the ball more, doubled that in game two, was 12 or 26 on the field when he had 32 points. Only shot 17 times in game three, but was 12 or 17. Shot 71% from the field, 63% from three. So it wasn't shooting more, it was being more efficient. Much more efficient game, nine less shots,
Starting point is 02:07:55 the same amount of makes. Man, they just made shots. It was one of those games, one game, a series where you're gonna shoot that many shots and you're 57% from the three-point line. You know, Ant-Man has been doing what Ant-Man's been doing, being aggressive. Julius, just like Kat, which is weird that they both got benched in the fourth quarter. It kind of shows that they was right about each other at some point.
Starting point is 02:08:19 Yeah, both coaches. Yeah, but both responded in the next game. You're playing like him. Hold on, man. You in the next game. You're playing like him. You're playing like this. You're acting just like him. Go sit down. It's the rest of the team, when Ant gets off the ball, they hit shots.
Starting point is 02:08:38 Right? Nas hit shots. Devin Chinzo hit shots. The bench hit shots. If you look at the first two games, right? He couldn't buy a bucket, right? You know, Ayn is going to try to do what Ayn's trying to do, but if he gets off the ball and they can't make a shot,
Starting point is 02:08:55 then we're not going to guard those guys. So, you know, Will's success is predicated on if the role players can actually hit the shots that are being presented to them. If they can't then Ant's gonna struggle trying to get to the rim and trying to get his own his own bucket. That's really all of it. It ain't nothing. They didn't do anything different besides make shots offensively. So let's talk a little bit more about Ant-Man. During game two, Ant-Man passed KG for the most points
Starting point is 02:09:28 in Wolves franchise history for the playoffs. Dang. Oh, damn. Oh, for the playoffs. Playoffs, playoffs, playoffs. KG set the previous record of 1,049 points in 47 career playoff games, with his Wolves squad reaching the postseason eight times in his 14 seasons.
Starting point is 02:09:42 The Wolves advanced past the first round in just one of those seasons. This was back in the day of five game first round series as well. So numbers would be a little skewed. So Ant Man surpassed KD's total in just 39 career playoff games. And in 40 total career games, he's averaged in 27.7 rebounds, six assists.
Starting point is 02:09:59 And has 15 30 point games, which is the fifth most by a player age 23 or younger, trailing only LeBron, Kobe, KD, and Luka. So what's Ant-Man's postseason dominance this early in his career say about his ceiling in the league? Only 23 years old, getting it done. I mean, he's on a different path.
Starting point is 02:10:19 You know, that path of, you know, all the players you named this hit again? LeBron, Kobe, KD, and Luca. I mean, you're talking about first-baller Hall of Famers. You know, him and Luca are going to be first-baller Hall of Famers. And that's the road. You know, he's being dominant at an early age. And from here, it's just, you know, continue growing,
Starting point is 02:10:51 continue understanding the game, understanding your weaknesses, cleaning them up. And then, you know, it's the maturity and wiseness of just basketball as a set of studying you're gonna get into that that next level you know right now is just you know youth and just his his um His skill level that's you know that has him at this point once he started being the master of the game That's when we're gonna see you know what he's really about
Starting point is 02:11:21 know what he's really about. What do you think about Ant-Man's playoff dominant at only 23 years old? Like I said, he's having the 27 points per game so far, 40 career playoff games. He's following the path. I mean, he's a prodigy. We know he was going to be doing this type of stuff since he was at Georgia.
Starting point is 02:11:41 And even the people in Georgia knew he was going to be doing this shit when he was a youth league. He's an athlete, phenomenal player, phenomenal person. I mean, you're looking at a guy who can come in and change the trajectory of a franchise just by smiling. I think he has that type of charisma. He's going to be able to do a lot of great things, especially at this age and what I just said about his demeanor in that interview. I think that shows a lot of maturity, knowing that being down 2-1, knowing what you got to do. There's no panic.
Starting point is 02:12:15 There's no games in his voice. There's no, I'm just trying to play ball, which is two years ago he was in that energy. I think now he's seeing the severity of what it would have liked to be the face of the league, how important it is to be the franchise guy and the expectations in society that you have based on what you've been given. So I think he's gonna step up to the plate.
Starting point is 02:12:37 He's gonna try to take them to the next level. And it's just about the rest of the team following suit. Let's hope they do. Yeah, for me, I think the Olympics has helped them a lot this summer being around those guys, like Steph LeBron. What is he, 23 years old? You know, he speaks, he says he's the best player in the world.
Starting point is 02:12:57 He speaks it into existence. And he goes out there, he works hard. And he's been, you know, the last two years, he's in the Western Conference Finals. So, you know, to be that young and to be that hostile and the way you talk about the game, the way how much you love it, you know, how you're eliminating guys that are goats and first-ballot Hall of Famers at this age, you know, he's on the right path. And I know a lot of big things is coming for him, as long as he can stay healthy. Yeah, I didn't sign up. I didn't sign up for
Starting point is 02:13:25 Tubi. No wolves bandwagon? That's a Tubi team right now. The wolves are a Tubi team. Netflix, Hulu, your preferred streamers. They're a Tubi team right now so I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, and if they can get, if they get it to two? If they get it to two? Fork membership! What the fuck because you talking about what you're talking about about the bring the jerseys out bring the jerseys out I got a Randy Ford back there! Damn. Randy Ford jersey. I got some wolves, I got some KG jersey. You see the KG jersey?
Starting point is 02:14:12 Well, technically, I think it's only KG. The rest of the players back then, you know what I mean? Randy Ford. Wow. Shout out Randy Ford. Let's talk about the Thunder real quick. I can get on the bandwagon a couple games, you know what I mean? But you know, Gil Zempik, let's talk about the Thunder real quick. Like I mentioned, Thunder suffered their worst loss in franchise history.
Starting point is 02:14:32 SGA was miked up for the game and offered this analysis as he watched his team getting smacked. Turnovers early. They were more physical early and they made shots and we missed shots. But the other two are first. And then on top of this, they had a great night, we had a bad night. So it's like 40. But if we like take care of these, we could still lose because of this night.
Starting point is 02:14:57 But it doesn't look like this, you know? He's sold to us. He's sold to us. Nah, he's right. It doesn't look like this. If the way they were shooting the ball, he's like, we still lose. Even if we cleaned up our mistakes, it was just their night. From how they were shooting the ball, it was just their night.
Starting point is 02:15:19 So we're going to still lose. We probably don't lose by 40. But we played offensively bad. They played great. And we turned the't lose by 40 but you know we played like offensively bad they played great and we turned the ball over 40. I'm gonna be honest with you I don't think OKC even showed up like they had no heart like they they just got punked right from the jump SGA wasn't even locked in like and when he's not locked in like that you could you could see like they feed off his energy so when he's not playing well he's not going they just you know They just showed up like they didn't care. Yeah, it was just like all right game three. All right, let's see We get out here. Yeah, you know how much you didn't go win by the night
Starting point is 02:15:53 The Thunder over 10. Yeah. Yeah. I got I got like over 10 and a half I mean cuz they they usually got I mean they they really got pumped. Like, I'm not gonna front. They didn't have- They lose again. What he did on that bench, he wasn't supposed to do at the end of the game when you're down 40. Supposed to do it in the first time out. Supposed to do it at halftime. Supposed to be telling the players, hey, listen, this can't happen.
Starting point is 02:16:18 These things are happening. You don't think he did? No. Because he just told him. He just told him. No, he told him on the bench guy. The bench guy who ain't playing. He telling the bench guy like, yo, he ain't just come sit on the bench.
Starting point is 02:16:30 He been sitting there the whole time. They probably asked him to game. Yeah, he was sitting on the bench. I wasn't. So he's watching the game and then SGA come and tell him what he watching. Nigga, I know what I'm watching. You didn't show up. Bro, don't come telling me a bunch of other shit.
Starting point is 02:16:43 What the fuck is you talk about SGA? We do these things nigga. You supposed to do that from the jump Why are you coming to tell the bitch nigga what we should have done? Good routine no, you are just the fucking leader, bro You supposed to tell us in the huddle what you just told me in my ear. He did don't tell me no He did in the playoffs. No, he did some days. It ain't yours It wasn't you you can tell by this asshole, but it wasn't. It was wool. They didn't. They didn't.
Starting point is 02:17:07 They wasn't locked in at all. They didn't win no championship. If you ain't really locked in to take advantage of what you know. 2-0. Let's go up 3-0. Listen, where is our energy for 3-0? Listen, I think every team right now that's in the playoffs is locked in. Everybody's locked in. They just came out. Like Indiana, they was locked in.
Starting point is 02:17:24 We thought the shit was over. Ain't no way in the world. Any team is locked in. They was locked in we thought the shit was over no way in the neck We'll lock this locked in they get beat by 40 We talking about how would you lock the happen? I got the ass beat, but this is I'm just asking a question I mean they got paid happen. You could tell me you're locked in you got beat by 40 Mm-hmm, and then get in the press conference to say I've been beat by 60, so it don't even really fucking matter. We will get it. Let you know, he don't get rattled. I'm just saying, bro, what kind of basketball are we watching?
Starting point is 02:17:51 That was Jalen Williams. I think him still talking about their mistakes in the fourth quarter, just to let you know, he's still locked in. Yo, this is what we gotta do. This is what we didn't do. If you're not locked in, you're just like, ah, whatever. But that's not the truth of the matter.
Starting point is 02:18:02 If you just change these two things, that ain't how ball goes. We still change these two things, that ain't how ball goes. He said, if we still change these two things, we still lose by two. We still lose. Yeah. It just looks and feels better. So he's basically saying that no matter
Starting point is 02:18:12 what we would have did tonight, the way they was playing, this was their game. He didn't say the accountability is I should have came out and did more. I'm sure he did, though. He didn't. He didn't say it in the audio. Right, right there.
Starting point is 02:18:24 But I'm saying that's what they used. OK, so we have a interview after the game that he did, because I'm sure he did though. He didn't he didn't say it in audio right right there, but I'm Okay, so we have a interview after the game that he did because i'm sure he said it man I'm saying that this young fella. Hey, listen, man. I gotta play better Now we know but we don't know what he's saying. We did just 14 points. That's He had four free throws, right 69 Combined the last two, uh? I think 29 in the first two games. 29? 29 free throw attempts, first two games, four free throw attempts, game three.
Starting point is 02:18:52 I don't know where the 69 came from. Okay, 29. So, 29 to 4. 14 points. Where's accountability? Why do I have to be accountable? Because you're the star and you're the MVP. I had a bad game. Where's accountability? Why do I have to be accountable? Because you're the star and you're the MVP. I had a bad game. Where's accountability?
Starting point is 02:19:08 He just said I had a bad game. I just had a bad game. He didn't say that. But that's only a bit... It's three hours of audio, they pulled a little clip. Bro, I want to see his interview after the game. I want to hear the whole game of him talking. They only showing this. Because his interview after the game he usually always says, yo, I gotta be
Starting point is 02:19:24 better, I gotta take more responsibility. That's what he's usually been saying in the playoffs So I'm sure he's putting this on his back did echo those those statements after the game through loss But let's talk about another issue that may present itself for the Thunder So according to ESPN no NBA champion has ever lost a playoff game during their title run by 40 plus points Celtics lost game for the finals by 38 last season, but that is not 40. So Thunder only lost- So what was the biggest number last year? Was 38 the biggest?
Starting point is 02:19:49 I believe 38 was- Okay, so that's irrelevant then. Cause I'm pretty sure they said the same thing last year then when they lost by 38. Boston? Yeah. Who they lose to? Dallas by 38?
Starting point is 02:20:01 In Dallas? The game, the one game Dallas won. Yeah, well whatever game they won, they won by 38. So so Thunder only lost back-to-back games twice in the regular season. Both those losing streak stopped at two obviously haven't dropped back-to-back game in these playoffs. Sean, like you mentioned despite the 42 point blowout Thunder all NBA guard Jalen Williams was not fazed. I mean in college I've lost by 60, so it can always be worse. Did I do that? How do you beat these little niggas, man?
Starting point is 02:20:34 They don't... They're not rattle at all, man. We should have known something was wrong with them when they lost to Jokic, you know what I mean? Them niggas over there smiling Yeah, we're gonna beat the ass Bro, this is like these little marks because it's like they saw they both Yeah, this is little marks they can play I like the confidence. Yeah, this is different. This is different man lost by 16
Starting point is 02:21:01 Better than the man is not a video game man. It's not a video game man. It ain't a video game. But if they think it's a video game, how do you... I just fucking lost for 60. I don't give a fuck. How do you beat someone who just... I don't give a fuck. What? Bro. You shit. Bro, what?
Starting point is 02:21:20 It's different in a locker room, bro. Man, we not playing no video games, bro. What you smiling for? What what you mean lost by 60 is cool man we have to one man all right sorry all right man let's get back to do it sorry ass niggas man who got dinner tonight I will smack these niggas about 25 get back home and in this series that's that's these conversations now. We're going to come over here smack them this next game and then go back home. That's exactly how the Bucks was thinking. That's exactly how the Lakers were thinking. Now we all watching. We all watching the same
Starting point is 02:21:55 shit. All y'all motherfuckers are sitting around watching and joking and fucking thinking it's a game and now you watching. Keep fucking thinking it's a game. now you watch it. Mm-hmm. He fucking thinking it's a game gonna keep hey Man, you better lock in man. Nobody walking around man They team had the team itself had one good game as a group and they they should be they celebrating There's a group effort here. Hmm. You see one man got benched in the second half when you realize in the fourth quarter He had two points. You see that you see a interview right now. We ain't do nothing yet Realize in the fourth quarter. He had two points. You see that you see an interview right now. We ain't do nothing yet He know when you get the code and you figure out how to put that bitch in and see it unlocked It's different and they play that's in the moment. They will not shoot like that again tonight
Starting point is 02:22:38 Okay, well, we will find out game for tonight But if they do think I'm gonna leave anything this nigga say, but if they do he said near I got half time. Mm-hmm going crazy at half time Yes Cemetery Yeah, there was kill them report reports of smoke later play back I think I'm aware next Jersey to You gotta go in tomorrow, what is it? It is a holiday federal holidays celebrated by my argue with this nigga man come on man all right well Before we get the most you know transition right on top of my shit, huh?
Starting point is 02:23:20 You're gonna appreciate this one very fast. I'm only on once a week Talk my shit there will be opportunity to talk your shit in just a moment very festive for what your outfit You're gonna appreciate this one very fast. I'm only on once a week There will be opportunity you're talking shit in just a moment very festive for what your outfit I see the Kobe's City the inbox of me they like Saudi put them in the body bag. They was playing with your name Nick. So I'm like, damn, what I need to do? I swarmed up. Yeah, you swore. Yeah. Yeah. Can't put me in a body bag. I want to say Pete. Yeah. Right. I was thinking about like, damn, Gilded. He's trying to save himself. Carlos, I came in with the Lakers. I said, nah, nah, nah. Every halftime, Gil changes jersey. Well, speaking of the Lakers shot, Lakers off-season started earlier than expected after they were eliminated in the first round
Starting point is 02:24:06 But their quest for a chip in 2026 already appears to be headed in the right direction Did you say eliminated in the first round? It happened. Okay, but we're talking we're talking moving forward You guys talking about ocean? My bad, my bad. Spinning it forward. Quest for a chip in 2026 already appears to be headed in the right direction Lugedancic averaged 28 points, 8 rebounds, and 8 assists in 50 games last season as he battled injuries and conditioning issues, snapping his streak of first-team all-NBA selections at 5. But we have some good news to report.
Starting point is 02:24:35 We can roll the video, please. Sunday, Luka was spotted at a Real Madrid basketball game, looking like he's been putting the work in to get his body right for next season. Looking very, very slender, white tee fitting, very, very comfortably. Body fitting, form fitting. No hookah, no beer, just vibes.
Starting point is 02:24:57 Y'all know you are currently in the midst of bandwagon hopping right now, but Lakers are your favorite team historically. Luca, your favorite Caucasian, favorite European. Lavinian Jesus, as historically Luca your favorite Caucasian. Yes favorite European Lavinian Jesus as you know Did you see how well like he looked like you speaking English just now like fluent It's amazing man. I'm so excited already got my Laker tickets So we have our Laker tickets. Okay are
Starting point is 02:25:21 Being the key word good to see Luca looking slim and trim, Mr. B. Yeah, yeah, I mean, you know, he knows what's at stake for him. He hear all the noise, he hear what people are saying. So, you know, he's in LA, you know, he got a fresh start. So, you know, putting that leg in uniform is a lot. It's a lot at stake for you. So, I hope he really keeps it up and, you know, comes back strong next time.
Starting point is 02:25:43 Gil Zempik. Yeah. I don't give a fuck what Luka look like. You know fat Luka averaging 33.99. Drinking Luka average 38.8. You know what I mean? Long as it's Luka I'm good with it. I'm taking him as he is.
Starting point is 02:26:01 So what if he, my average 40. Hey listen, I listen, I listen I listen he can come he can come back to 75 I'm pretty sure he gonna give me 27 8 8. Yeah Yeah, we get the early maps Luca the one that's coming down the lane Duncan Oh you motherfuckers in trouble MVP the non-rally MVP Luca you say MVP if he comes back and he's the Duncan Luca where he's coming down the lane Duncan like he was The first couple years MVP. Ain't nobody stopping him Duncan doughnuts Y'all see free free willy over there free
Starting point is 02:26:43 He free from all the GMO. Less GMO overseas. Gluten free. Stay gluten free Luca. We're going to see the best version of you and we ain't got to sing the free willy song no more. See we fit. I got an extra small just so I look like you.
Starting point is 02:27:00 Slender man. Very slim. Very slim. Slender man. Very slim, very slim. Now all you need is a little bit of juice to get you loose. Luca, you're gonna be alright. See, I like the way you went over to Real Madrid to show your chodeen coming over here. You went over there. You stayed over there.
Starting point is 02:27:20 Showed them that the beef is different over there. The cow. Yes, less hormone. Yeah, it over there. The cow. Yes. Less hormone. Yeah. It's nice. I like the noodles. No need for anyone else.
Starting point is 02:27:29 It's like his son over there. I know it was some son over there. He got a tan. In Slovenia. It's a tan? In Slovenia. Woo! Spain for Real Madrid game, but overseas.
Starting point is 02:27:38 Oh, Spain. Ooh, wait. Spain, too. Oh, yeah. Luka, Luka, Luka. Frisco, Maine, all the way to Spain. Puka, Luka, and Cooper Luca Luca. Frisco, Maine all the way to Spain. Luca Luca and Cooper. Okay, that was so that's where the Rihanna
Starting point is 02:27:49 Jared tan was coming through. Yeah, it's gonna be high Luke Luca. Get your blue fact ready. I got this Jersey discount too. So you got full price for nose discount 30% off overpaid. I got this in a Caitlin Clark. So you lucky The word is today. I'm gonna throw it away tomorrow Where you gonna throw it away at? I don't know yet. I bet he kept them bronze jersey
Starting point is 02:28:16 Take it I'm gonna pick it up the bronzers. Yeah, I pick it up. Yeah keep it keeping the bronze keeping mellows I'm keeping all my photos like me. I'm keeping all their jerseys. Luke will have a dog. I need a Luke a doll. A doll, oh. What is it gonna look like? Like bronze? I got a doll for you.
Starting point is 02:28:33 Cause all my favorite players got dolls. Who are those players? Penny. Okay, does have a doll, little penny. Bron. Bron's or has a candy? Bron's not my favorite player. Okay, but he does have a doll. But I said my favorite player's have a dog little penny Brown's as a kid about my favorite place. Okay, but he does have a dog So that would be in line with with the two. I'm too good for your make now. I just need Luca with a dog a Luca dog
Starting point is 02:29:00 Look at you. Look at you. Look at you. Hey man, listen, next year. Little more hill-cut back. Next year, I'm, y'all seen Juski White, right? Mm-hmm. Listen. Yes.
Starting point is 02:29:10 Come on. I'm trying to tell y'all. You ain't got that time. You ain't got, you can't pull that off. I'm trying to tell y'all when Luca is in his MVP. You can't pull Luca White and Luke off. If Luca's in his white MVP year and he's running up for the MVP, I'm going white.
Starting point is 02:29:23 I'm going white. Sammy Sosa. All right, clip that. Sammy Sosa,'m going white. I'm going semi-social. Alright, clip that. Semi-social. Clip that shit. I'm Caucasian, bro. I'm Caucasian. I'm being golfed. I'm being golfed. I can't wait to see this shit. I can't wait to see this shit. I'm being golfed clothes every day. This nigga outfit gone. Huh? Yeah! Cardigans every day, bro.
Starting point is 02:29:38 I don't believe you. I'm going to start speaking different. I don't believe you. I'm going to start sounding like Halliburton. You're going to be up here looking like Slammy Sosa. Slammy Sosa. Slammy Sosa. I ain't no black. I'm gonna start sounding like Halliburton. You're gonna be up here looking like Slammy Sosa. Slammy Sosa. I ain't no black. I ain't no black. Y'all think I'm bullshitting.
Starting point is 02:29:52 So you heard it, clip it please. Put this on the internet. Y'all see when Kobe, I'm trying to get the pro, my shit fell out. I'm going white. If Luka wins the MVP, Gil will rebrand as Kalkes. Still named Gilbert. That name works on both sides. He said it works on both sides.
Starting point is 02:30:09 Still named Gilbert. But let's move on to MostlyFans. Presented by our friends at Underdog. Download the Underdog app. Use promo code Gil. Get up to $1,000 in bonus cash plus a special pick-em. So we have one question from underdog user Chef 2025. Today is Memorial Day.
Starting point is 02:30:28 Some of you are at home enjoying your holiday. We were at work bringing your favorite show, but a lot of barbecues going on around the country. So what food absolutely does not belong at the Memorial Day Cookout? What food does not belong at the Memorial Day Cookout? What food does not belong at the Memorial Day cookout? Anyone 33 and under's macaroni and cheese. So you have to be, if you're over 33,
Starting point is 02:30:52 your macaroni and cheese. No, no, no, no, just 33, no, no, no, absolutely not. OK. 34 to 40, we consider. Solid rule. Huh? The rule of the cheese. Kankles? K Huh? The roux, the cheese. Cankles.
Starting point is 02:31:07 Cankles, macaroni, and cheese. That's the one you want. Potatoes. See, everybody be looking to here. Nah, you got to look at the cankles. If they came, ooh, that means they all got that. Nah, right here. No, that's what you think.
Starting point is 02:31:19 No, it is. These right here. You got to do this. I know. Yeah, see, you do that too much, you should be losing that. Here, here. Yeah, that's all you do is cook. You've been standing all day.
Starting point is 02:31:30 Yeah, the socks cut off the circulation. Yeah, the socks cut off the circulation. Yeah, see, people don't look at that, I look at that. Them swollen ass ankles. Those big toes and all kinds of. Shoes busting out. Sandals. You just got them out.
Starting point is 02:31:43 Like biscuits. Soft shells. Soft shells still busting. Flowers. Flowersals. You just got them out. Like biscuits. Soft, soft. And they're soft shell. Soft. Soft shell, still busting. Boom, boom. Flowers. Walk soft. You got to walk soft.
Starting point is 02:31:50 You know what I'm saying? Around the kitchen. You know what I'm saying? So 33 and under, that mac and cheese. Wearing big ass clothes when they cook. Hot artists. What food does not belong at the Memorial Day Cookout? Potato salad.
Starting point is 02:32:01 No potato salad whatsoever. I'm cool. Yeah, I'm cool. And any variety? Yeah, I'm cool. I'm cool. Yeah, I'm cool. At any variety. Yeah, I'm cool. I'm cool. I'm cool. Yeah, I'm cool.
Starting point is 02:32:09 I just get the hot links and, you know, mac and cheese, beans. When you think of that, like I've never really thought about potato salad. Like it's there, I'll eat it. It's not, but it's like- It's there, I'll eat it. It's to fill the plate.
Starting point is 02:32:23 Yeah. It's like you never eat what's on the plate. You never eat what's on it. You leave it there and throw it away. It's just to make the plate look like okay. It's nice. I've never tasted something like damn this is the best potato salad I've ever tasted. Like I've never had that. An important accessory for something. It's just there. A plate filler. Ain't that like, it's a plate filler. Yeah anything with mayonnaise in it and I'm cool. Yeah, it's a plate filler. You're right. It's a plate filler.
Starting point is 02:32:49 I'm cool with everything else. Throw some mayonnaise on that and I dig baby, baby. You know what I'm saying? I'm broke, baby. Hey, he fucking up my whole shit. See what you see. I'm broke, baby. The police at the door.
Starting point is 02:33:06 AC Green said he wants his curl back leave AC green out of like okay this ain't got nothing to do with AC green this is pinky nigga another word say another mother well we appreciate all you guys for joining us oh one thing you shouldn't bring at a barbecue Vegan food Give me the regular food Cauliflower, oh damn, this is Memorial Day weekend. I don't need to be no fucking vegan. Don't want none of your vegan shit Oh, this is shrimp. It's just yeah What is vegan what is vegan shrimp I stopped I stopped that I was like how's this ramp made me to look like real meat Flavored crayon
Starting point is 02:34:08 No, this flavor Word I'm not gonna eat fake food and be on a fake date at the same time, baby You're gonna take your makeup off or we go eat some vegan shit. What you gonna do? The choice is yours and yours alone done with all this fake shit You don't get to think you don't get a real nigga in a real meal I'm done with all this fake shit. You don't get two things. You don't get a real nigga in a real meal When we was kids and they had the you know, the the clay the Crayola clay. Yes all that shit is man They just figured out to put the put a Crazy it's just classes put a shit plaster it out and then put figures in the shit that we did that when we was little. It's just that we tried to taste it. It's a little salty.
Starting point is 02:34:47 It's a little salty. It's clay. I know what clay you talking about. He used the taste. Yeah, you tasted it. Like, you know, to put it in a, like, go get it. It looked like little fish. I shouldn't be eating this salty.
Starting point is 02:35:00 Ah, shit. Now it's real food. I swear. I swear. We appreciate everybody joining us on this Memorial Day. Thank you everybody on this couch. Always great to be here working. Shout out to our crew as well. Go Wolves!
Starting point is 02:35:14 We will find out tonight, but this has been another episode of Gills Arena presented by Underdog. Woo woo! We will see y'all tomorrow!

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