Gil's Arena - The Lakers' Rough Road Trip CONCERNS The Gil's Arena Crew

Episode Date: November 6, 2024

Ja Morant's Highlight Reel ELECTRIFIES Gil's Arena as Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Crew react to Ja's two 360 layups against the Brooklyn Nets where the Memphis Grizzlies superstar showed everyone what we were missing last season during his suspension and proved he's the most electrifying player in the NBA. They also break down Ja's involvement in the development of Grizzlies rookie Zach Edey and discuss how playing with a dynamic guard can fast track Edey to rookie of the year status. Next, a somber Gil's Arena Crew breaks down the Los Angeles Lakers recent losing skid where LeBron James & The Lake Show have lost 3 of 4 on the road including an embarrassing loss to the Detroit Pistons and discuss how Anthony Davis' MVP level play has been hampered by a nagging foot injury, sparking a debate of if the Lakers are asking too much of their superstar center. Finally, Gil's Arena reacts to the news that San Antonio Spurs head coach Gregg Popovich will be sidelined indefinitely due to health issues and analyze the college debut of likely #1 overall pick Cooper Flagg debating if he's good enough to warrant an NBA franchise going full tank to get him. Please leave us a like and subscribe!!! Gil's Arena Crew - Gilbert Arenas, Josiah Johnson, Kenyon Martin, Lexie Brown & Rashad McCants Gil's Arena Merch is Available NOW at http://gilsarenamerch.com/ Use code GIL10 for 10% off your SeatGeek order https://seatgeek.onelink.me/RrnK/GIL10 Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get up to $1000 in Bonus Cash and A FREE Pick: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena SUBSCRIBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAvjYgmwadC682OoC4Cc6TQ Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos! https://discord.gg/underdog Intro 0:00:00 Show Start 0:02:01 Ja Morant's 360 Layups WOWS Gil's Arena 0:09:13 Zach Edey's AGE Blows Up The Arena 0:17:24 The Lakers Are Asking Too Much Of Anthony Davis 0:47:29 Lakers Issues With Bench Depth 1:02:29 Draymond Calls Out OKC's Bromance 1:13:19 Celtics Challenged To A World Championship Match 1:43:15 Cooper Flagg Is Already Showing He's HIM 1:59:49 Joe Few Gets POSTERIZED 2:14:35 Rudy Gobert Ducks Russell Westbrook's Smoke 2:18:43 MostlyFans 2:32:10 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I'm listening to her do her homework with my wife. Some of the words that's on her vocabulary test, I was like, she got to learn how to spell that? And fifth, man. What? Shit. I still need to look it up on the phone. She's got to learn how to spell that and fifth man Still need to look it up on the phone Spilled this in a long time Right just some simple as blue like that. I still feel that time you just feel blue. You gotta fight

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But if it's not. It can't be this. It can't be this simple. And the worst feature now is this motherfucking microphone on this goddamn phone. And you ain't got to type nothing in. That's the worst feature ever invented. That's the best. That's the worst. And now it writes it out for you. Write it near now, that's the worst feature ever invented. Oh, that's the best That's the world now it writes it out for you. Right it

Right you just look at the business. Oh damn, that's Wow, when people auto correct me. I'm like that was Otto. That was hot. I'm out there there and there Talk to Siri. Talk to Siri. Talk to Siri. There, there, and there, whooping people's ass. What? Oh, my God. But on a more positive note, this is Gil Serena presented by Underdome. As always, we've got the legend Gilbert Arenas here with us.

We got the honorable Cemetery Larry, Rashad McCants. Whooping. Whooping. Whooping their ass. Absolutely. And on this side of the couch, we got Kenyon Martin back here with us. What's happening? And WNBA World Champion of the World, Craig. Lexi Brown back in the arena.

WNBA World Champion of the World. Everybody may not agree with that, that World Champion. Oh Oh my gosh. Yeah, I stick with kindergarten first grade Wait y'all saw the tweet from the Greek coach. Oh, yeah, we were discussing about your Boston Celtics Oh, that was that was a precursor little foreshadowing that if you will our Boston Celtics. Okay. Wait, what? Oh, okay, wait. What? Are you back? No, no, no, I'm sorry. Oh, yeah. Oh, but you are. Yes. You are.

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Picture everyone you want to watch this. Make sure you support your favorite show. Here's what's cracking in the arena today. AD has been playing at an MVP level,

but the Lakers have lost three of their last four games, and Davis re-aggravated a nagging foot injury. Are the purple and gold asking AD to do too much? Better get to work, Anthony. Marshawn Davis. John Morant delivered two of the most viewed highlights in the NBA this season, but is 12th the most electrifying player in the league right now. And Cooper Flagg was impressive

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And as always, we do the show live on YouTube Mondays through Thursdays, but you can't watch it with us live. We got audio versions available on Apple, Spotify, wherever you get your podcasts. So we're going to start with one of our favorite players here in the arena. So John Morant had a couple of highlights Monday

that reminded everyone exactly what we were missing last season. So we got them here. Ja executed not one, but two fake dunk 360 reverse layups against the Nets Monday, finishing the game with 25 points in the loss at Brooklyn. Yes, they did lose. It does not matter. The video still looked good, because that's not the story here.

So according to NBA PR, Ja Morant's two acrobatic layups from the Grizzlies-Nets game have generated 161 million video views and counting across NBA social media. Each play stands out as the most viewed video on NBA platforms this season. Very early in the season, but Ja doing what he's doing.

So I got to ask the couch, is Ja the most electrifying player in the league right now keyword electrifying in that state i think by far at this point no question yes and the reason why the reason why i say that is because his absence allowed ant-man to step in um but i think his return allowed us to see how big there's still a gap. There's still, wow, like what was that type shit. So let's move to this side. Lexi, do you agree with Shasta?

I mean, I think he's definitely the most exciting player in the league. And his personality matches it. And I think that's what people love about him. It's like his game and his energy and his aura is all just off the charts. He does have aura. Those are crazy. Yeah, aura. That's what the kids say.

Can you watch a lot of basketball? Obviously an expert on the subject. Would you consider Ja to be the most electrifying player in the league right now? Anybody else close? Jalen Green? Yeah. Yeah, Jalen Green is three. Pearl?

Jalen Green is definitely that. But yeah, that's what John doing with those two in one game. Yeah, you do it once. You're not thinking he's going to think to do it again in the same game. Yeah, no, he is definitely top three. Was that dunk in that game too? No. So I took a brownie the other night.

Oh, I thought the pullback was in there too. Took a magic brownie the other night, sent that in the group chat. That was from last season. But, you know, I had to apologize. I think it's Jai, Jalen, Anthony Edwards. They are in the top three. Top one in that category, electrifying. Just watch out at any given moment.

It could be that type of layup. It could be a dunk. It could be, yeah, they just played a game with grace. Mm. And. So let's take it back down memory lane. Is there anyone that you faced who you would compare to Jai athletically? Electrifying or just athletic?

From that athletic just ability skill. That aura? Yeah. Probably more Steve Francis. Probably when it came to just putting on a show and you're glued to the TV on everything he's trying to do, I would say Steve Francis in my era. Shaw, how about yourself?

Probably Baron Davis. in my era. Shaw, how about yourself? Probably... Baron Davis. B.D., boom, dizzle. You know what's so funny with B.D.? It was... Nobody really gets to see what he was because he got injured so early in his career, but... Golden State BD

Charlotte BD I'm just saying because of the injury that's was it because of the injury it kind of stopped him from just being a Wild jumper. Yeah, you know just one of those wild cards, you know Yeah, all of it. He was crazy for everybody but he had all the acrobatic moves and up and unders and all that. Yeah, being electrifying at any moment, BD, in my era, I'm trying to think of anybody else. That was my second. Steve, I didn't get to play with Steve like that when he was electrifying. For those who got to

see the NBA, BD, he came into the league after tearing his ACL at UCLA, but I'm going to take it even back to that. I was in junior high, same high school as him, at Crossroads here in LA. And the stuff he used to do in our little outdoor playground He was messing around one day doing crazy dunks ended up tweaking his knee even back then So you were looking at a version of BD in the league that wasn't I mean they have my place For him in high school where he just come down the lane on the out-of-bounds and just cock back and just dunk all over

Dude's lives, but definitely a great choice, but let's move it to this side kenya who would you compare to josh lettigly from from your era this is an easy choice but i'm gonna go i'm gonna put a big in this and i'm gonna look out for the guys that's play down low i'm gonna go Strowmile Swift. Strow, Strow, Strow. Right? Mm-hmm. Um... Whoo! Strowmile, yeah. Yeah. Same draft class. He was the second pick in our draft, so... Um...

Yeah, so I'm gonna put a big in my draft. I wanted to go Amari, but, no, Strow shit just looked different. Nasty. Mm-hmm. Yeah, Strow shit just looked different. You mentioned Vince obviously just got his jersey, retired by the Raptors recently, but... My dad was there.

Yeah. He was up there? Yeah. Okay. They had a little reunion. It was turnt up? It was adorbs. Did Drake run up on him?

No, but he sent me a video of Drake. Okay. With Vince's kids. I was like, go say hi. Unless I switch it to the W side, just in terms of... Without anything from this side of the couch, please, just let her answer, but... I mean, obviously, nobody matches that athleticism,

but I guess from an aura standpoint, like, when it comes to their game, growing up, probably Simone Augustus, I would say. And then now, I would say Arike. Yeah, I figured that's who you were gonna say, because she be out there cooking. She pull up and it's a show. Always take higher on the pick-em.

I was gonna say Cappy Poindexter, but... Ooh, Cappy's a good one. Cappy's a good one. Yeah. Yeah, Cappy's a good one. But Simone was a little overshadowed by Maya a little bit. Okay. But, I mean, if you watch Simone's highlights from college and when she was with the Lynx, like...

Like when you're talking about like somebody who can move like Ja that has that, that, that, that, uh, South Carolina Foo-Ily. Oh yeah, she... Yeah, I mean, you're talking about just coming and just moving, just knowing how to use her limbs. You ever watch Barbara Turner? Who? Barbara Turner.

From the cooking show? Oh, that just sounds like a cooking show name, right? Like Martha Stewart. Barbara Turner. From the cooking show, because it sounds like a cooking show name. Let's move on. Don't explain. We gave Derrick Rose his flowers recently,

but the chat saying D. Rose, I think pre-Janky Knee D. Rose was also... He wasn't my era. I didn't get to see him. No, no, but just a sight to behold. He wasn't my era either, but, you know, him, John Wall, they came in with a whole different type of athleticism. Oh, yeah, John Wall. John Wall's speed, man, was...

Yeah, I wouldn't... No, man. I'ma shut up. What? Nothing. Okay. No, man, I'm not... Nothing. We're headed in the right direction on this one. Where's the right direction here? Yeah.

Look at y'all thinking before y'all speak. Yeah, I have, yeah, because it was... It was in... It had nothing to do with what we're talking about. But that's what we do on this show. That was one of those two. It did. It did, but it was inappropriate. Now you have us curious, but... Right.

Yeah, it's good. Curiosity killed the cat. We asked the chat, is Ja the NBA's most electrifying player? 78% said yes. Good job, chat. Y'all are locked in today. Well, let's keep it Grizzlies related.

So before this even started, Ja predicted Grizzlies' ninth overall pick, Zach Eadie, would win Rookie of the Year. Easily. He did? Ja said easily. I think... He was...

It's my pick. Okay. I picked Zach Eadie. It was our pick. Oh, you picked Zach Eadie too? Absolutely. Oh, I didn't know you did. Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. I picked Zach Eadie. It was our pick. Oh, you picked Zach Eden too? Absolutely. Oh, I didn't know you did. Absolutely, absolutely.

I picked Zach Eden. None of the, or any of the rookies even. It's a little rough. As expected. Because they're babies. I mean. They're all still. Not him.

Right, grown ass man. Grown ass man. Two time player of the year. Trust me. They coming in ready to play at 22. Ain't nothing like it, Jack. Ain't that boy in Arizona? Yeah, up close.

I mean, in the suite, but he had a good vantage point. VIP, you know. VIP. You think they're ever going to like... Once he starts making threes, once he adjusts the shooting, because he makes free throws. You got to stop him from getting position. He's going to be all right.

He know how to get position. You think teams are going to start drafting seniors more ever? That can play? It depends if they develop like he has. so we've like don't connect they develop yeah he's not going for it you always make the point that teams want to draft younger players right so they have more longevity uh more runway but what we're seeing with the new cba in the need for a player like dalton connect on the lakers guys that teams that teams need to come in. Can't come in and play right away. School longer now.

Play right away. Right, they're getting money, so they're good. They're making money now. Ain't no need for a lot. Yo, I'm just saying. Play right away. As soon as you get here, we can trust you. Do you anticipate a shift at all, Gil,

or if you're a GM, you still give me the young guy I can build on? Even the European kids, I think they have a bigger learning curve than the American kids. He's having 11, y'all. Absolutely. Okay. At 22, about 11, y'all. Absolutely. Okay. At 22, about to turn 23 years old.

Okay. What was his last name? He ain't shooting threes yet. We're talking about rookies. What I'm saying is we're not talking about other 22-year-olds in the league. We're talking about rookie. As a rookie, he's averaging 11. Okay.

And where does that rank amongst rookies, Gil? Number one. Okay. A point in front of a 19-year-old. Oh, my God. Go post moving ass. What I'm saying is he's averaging one more point than a rookie on the Wizards. And that's because he's two years older than that.

And he's three years older, averaging one more point. What does that have to do with his career? So if he averages three more points or averaging one more point. What does that have to do? So if he has three more points, then that would be okay when you're so Okay, every 15 they get drafted that he has to average 20, okay, all right just okay so you got the uh You got the Carlton kid right 19 years old averaging 10 and 4 who is Carlton 10 4 & 4 10 4 & 4 he's 19 when he's 22. What do you think his numbers is gonna be? Who he play for? Who he play for? Harrington is averaging 10, 4, and 4 at 20. What is he going to be?

Basically 10, 4 and 5. How many minutes is he playing? 10, 4 and 5. I don't know real names. How many minutes is he playing and what position does he play? He's a guard. So he has the ball in his hands. So therefore, he gets to shoot the ball at will.

Therefore. And he's only averaging 10 points. With the Wizards. He's a rookie. And so. With Poole on the team. And's a rookie. And so is this. With Poole on the team. And Kuzma.

Who has to rely on somebody to pass him the ball. So when he's 22. Has to rely on somebody to pass him the ball. When he's 22, what do you think he's going to be? 10, 4, and 4. You think he's going to be averaging 11 at 22 years old? If you average 10, 4, and 4, this man, you're going to average 10. Three years from now, do you think his projection is going to be 11 points?

12. Joe, make a note of this. What did he get drafted? We have a chat that love bringing up Oshin. Who's the draft pick? So in three years when Zach Eady is 25, we plan on him averaging 20. Yeah, 20 and 12. At 25.

Okay, that's fine. 20 and 12. Okay, that's six years for this kid. Six years later. He's not going to be in the league. He's not going to be in the league in two years. Bub was the 14-year-old. That's who's actually projected.

That's who's projected to probably win it. That's who he's going to be competing with. The kid from the Wizards. Not the number two pick. He'll be out of the league. This kid. Okay. That's the kid they're going to be. Okay, well, Zach, he's going to be competing with. The kid from the Wizards. Not the number two pick. This kid. Okay. That's the kid they're going to be. Okay, well, Zach, Edie will get the opportunity.

Let's talk a little bit more about Edie. Top ten, they ain't banking on you lasting longer than five. You got to surprise them. Who? Any pick past ten. No. They're not banking on you going past three years. They're all 19.

They're all 19 years old, man. He's sending you to the G League. They're all 19 years old, man. We're sending you to the G League. Except the one that's physically ready to play. He's ready. He's going to play now. The rest of y'all go down there and get ready. He's ready to play, Gil. Ready to do what?

Do what he's doing. Do y'all know what Allen Iverson, tell him the stats. When Allen Iverson was 22, you know what he came in doing? That's what 22 looks like. Well, it's not, Gil. No, it's not, Gil. That's what Allen's what 22 looks like. No, it's not. What? No, it's not. That's what Allen Iverson looked like. We need to take, like, the anomaly.

Yeah, I was 22 when I got drafted. He tripping, man. He's like, everybody was like Allen Iverson. Whoa, whoa, whoa. I was 22 when I got drafted. You came in hurt. I was 22 when I got drafted. But you came in hurt.

It doesn't matter. It does matter. It does matter. So if he wasn't hurt, what would matter? What would be the difference? He wouldn't be rehabbing. He had to rehab, what would matter? What would be the difference? He wouldn't be rehabbing. He had to rehab the whole year. But what would be the difference?

What I'm saying, he had to rehab the whole year. So his first experience, did you even play summer league? No. No. It's very different. What's the difference? Gil, it's different for big. You're a player of the year two years straight.

You're averaging 11 in drag. And I have job Moran and bank 20 years old. Well, I'm averages, please 20 Shaquille O'Neal They're main in Java when he was 22 years old. He averaged 30 who was on that means that who was on his team How many years was that? So therefore so 20 I'm 20. It doesn't matter. It matters, Gil. It does.

Your third year, you're going to be 25. You got to use your age, not where you got drafted. Why not? Why doesn't where you get drafted matter? Because that's what it matters. No, it don't, bro. How can he be in the league with... Why are you confusing me here?

So he has like... Because... So how can you compare when them guys were in the NBA at 19? Uh-huh. He's in college. Yes. Dominating. Dominating in college.

Dominating. And you're not doing nothing. While you're developing, I'm dominating. In college. He's developing as well. And you're not playing in the league. You're watching. At 19, I'm in the NBA averaging 10.

Okay. At 19, you was in the NBA averaging 10. Okay. At 19, you was in college. Averaging what? Averaging 20. I don't know what he was averaging at 19. That would have probably been his sophomore year in college. That's his year. So right now, at the same age, I'm already here above you.

You're not. You're just younger. Because you're three years in front of me. You're not above anybody. You're just younger. you're three years. You're three years. You're not above anybody. You're young You're three years. You're three that until a few years. You're three years in front of me averaging one more point So I'm worth way more than no you're not it's circumstances. Are you not the circumstances is what? Domina and Desmond Bay As a 20 year old rookie a rookie of the year average 18 point seven as a 20-year-old rookie, rookie of the year, averaged 18.7 assists.

As a 20-year-old. No, what is he averaging? Desmond Bain and John Moran. So 22 years old. 21 and 10 and 5. Think about the... Wait a second here. 21, 10 and 5 right now, John.

Give him an extra question. As a 25-year-old. Can I ask you a question? Is it different playing basketball as a guard and as a big? Just a game of basketball. Yeah. What's the difference? The guard has the ball.

And the big has to do what? Rely on what? The guard. Somebody to pass him the fucking ball. So therefore, the guards that come in the league as the first pick, second pick, third pick, fourth pick, fifth pick, sixth pick. Cook. They're going to have the ball in their fucking hands way more than the big. Okay.

Right? Mm-hmm. There are certain exceptions to that. Uh-huh. Right? Mm-hmm. Shaquille O'Neal. Mm-hmm.

Didn't have no stars on the team. She killed O'Neal. Mm-hmm didn't have no Stars on this team didn't have a ball dominant guard the getting away it is give me the ball give me the ball let's hold on when I came in my rookie who was my point guard the former the former beard I paid see I look right came he taught which was what a score first ball dominant point guard. How much did you average that year? 11, 12, whatever it was.

I'm saying? Coming off of injury. Average 12 points as a rookie. You averaged 12 points as a rookie. As a rookie. Coming off of injury. And I was 22, right? Coming off of an injury.

Coming off of an injury, absolutely. All these things are facts. And I got hurt again my rookie year. Right? I broke my leg again in March of my rookie year. Yeah. Rough year. Rough for like a whole year.

Rough year and you still averaged what? Average 12. 12. But I was 22. Average 12. Pre-injured coming in, didn't get to train all summer. Just raw talent coming in. But I had to rely.

Average 12. But I had to rely. So, just raw talent coming in, you averaged 12. But I had to rely. So, listen, but I had to rely. He played 82 games, right? And at the end of the season, he averaged 12. So, but I had to rely on somebody. Five games in, and he's averaging 10. Right, I had to rely on somebody to pass me the ball, right?

Me coming in as a big. Mm-hmm. Had I been the number one pick as a guard... You'd have the ball. That 12 would have been what? If I would have been a guard as a number double it you did double back there Yeah, cuz he has he would have more touches and more shot 18 19 as a garden He's running at least maybe 20 right at least 20. So there's a number one pick

Get what you're saying same age, right? What does he have to do? What do any of these older players? Yes He has to finish the season 17. They got a good guard. I would agree 17 a better He has been as the sea like Dwight Howard was not even the option on his team 12 and 10. Oh, yeah, so he'll he'll end up with 12 and 10 or 12 and 9. At 19. That's when he got drafted, Gil. At 19. He came out of high school.

At 19. That's when he got drafted. So he was able to do that in the NBA. So when you're talking. There was no way Zach Eady could have did it in the NBA because he wasn't there, Gil, at 19. He's there at 22. So he's doing what he can right now. With the fact that he's maybe the fourth option, when he's on the floor at any given time,

I think that's pretty fucking good. But you're playing the same way as a rookie. We're expecting the rookie to have this. AK, it's an conversation between Kevin Garnett and Tim Duncan. You got Tim Duncan, which is a what? He is Zach Eady. Tim Duncan, Zach Eady. He's talking about a Kevin Garnett.

Kevin comes in at 19. He averages what as a rookie? Oh, give him... Tim Duncan, 21. Give him Tim Duncan years. Like I said, he was the exception. What was KG's rookie year? KG's rookie year.

Kevin was 21. 21, right? So I said, he is the exception. He's the big, everything went through him. KG's rookie year, he averaged 10 points. 10 points at 19. Two assists. 19.

Which rookie are you going to take? The one that's averaging 21 or the one that's averaging 10? Which rookie are you going to take? Not because of age. Which rookie are you going to take? I'm taking Tim Duncan. Averaging 21. The two-time national player of the year.

Two times. Two times. Two times. Two times. Averaging what? 21. In what? If the offense ran through Zach Eady.

21 and what? I don't know. I don't know. What did it say? 21 and 12. 21 and 12? Yeah. I guarantee if the offense ran through Zach Eady, he shoots free throws well.

If the offense ran through him like they did Tim Duncan when he came, if this was a different NBA, right, and the three ball wasn't so, and Ja wasn't what he is for that team, and the offense had to run through Zach Eady, those numbers would be different at 22. I'm putting, so you can, if he was dominant, you have to put

everything in the box together and add it up. You just can't take bits and pieces out of it. You got to look at the totality of his touches, who's on his team, the shots that he's getting, the minutes that he's getting. So all these things come into factor

when you're saying that he only averages 12 right now. as the third option Well, let's let's take a look. Maybe they'll for five. So Edie had the best odds entering the season Monday he made some history We got the video for y'all coming he dropped 25 points 12 rebounds four blocks against the net 11 for 12 from the field And if you don't move out of my way... Knocked out his only three-point attempt.

Come get this work down here. So according to Stab Muse, he became the first rookie in league history with a 20-10 game. I got a three-ball, too. Hold that. That's what I'm saying. If he doing that, that's a problem. Hold that. I got that, too. So he scored what?

So 25 points, 12 rebounds. According to Stab Muse, he became the first rookie in league history with a 2010 game While shooting 90% from the field That's a good step, right? We don't we like this until then he was so until this game He was actually second just a rookie average and he was just a rookie So he was just a rookie so so far this top 10 He was average so far this season he averaging 11.1 points highest amongst rookies along with 6.5 rebounds shooting 65% from the field

Minutes per game That is 20 minutes. Yeah, man. That's really good for 20 minutes 11 points 11 and 6 in 20 minutes Taking the seventh most field goal attempts on the team at this point in the season. That's 19 a game, bro, if he's a starter. Yeah, that's not impressive. 19 a game. Easy.

If he's a starter. In 20 minutes? How many minutes is the other? You don't want to admit it. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. He won't admit that.

Hold on. Stat man, look up the per 48 then. Or per 36, whatever it is. It's 36. He's not going to admit that. Yeah, let me. He won't. Yeah, let's look up this.

He ain't going to let us. He ain't going to let us. Let's look up this. He's not going to let us get away with this one. Per 36. Let's look up. He doesn't let us get away with this one per 36 We normally hate stats but Since we want to do this so per 36 he's averaging 20 points 12 rebounds Damn Damn, and that's what he damn and that's what he hell he had risk. He has the average yet

Just be normal arrest. Damn like I don't know case. Damn. You're 22, you know, who's to arrest my case? Oh who's 22 is 22. Oh, she's going this way to follow Ben Cheros 22 minute relief. How many Jalen green is 22? I love me five minutesMan is just 20. That's his competition for his age. How many years? That's his age. Years of experience don't matter.

It's his age. And what's they per? And what's they per 36? No. Your age is your age. That's how his per 36 to theirs. Right? It's his age. I'm sorry.

Shangoon in his fourth season. Y'all might want to go back to the Michael Carter Williams interview. He came in at 22 years old. Yeah, we don't need that. He was rookie of the year. Don't need that. Y'all remember, he was rookie of the year. Don't need that.

He averaged 16. He came back for his sophomore year, averaged 14. They said, we need to go younger. He's 23 turning 24. For your age, you're not good enough. And you're saying that because the Sixers said that. In what position? You're saying this is the standard

because the Sixers said it. What position did Michael Carter Williams play? One mark. So if that was in their eyes, he digressed because he had the ball in his fucking hand. And you ain't that good. You're too old for the even number. No. He digressed as a player. He's not good enough for this position. You're too old for the even number. No, no.

He digressed as a player. He was not good enough for this position. Let's go get a younger guy. He was not good enough for this position. Therefore, he has the ball in his hands. Like I said, there's a difference. There's a difference in playing guard in this league and a big at this league at a young age.

He played better at the two. Point blank, period. He was a better player at the two. When you come in at a certain age, you have to be dominant. No, you do not. Yes, you do. No, you do not.

When you're 19, you don't. That's Gilbert's perspective. No, that's the NBA's perspective. No, it's not. No, it's not. Then explain to these people how a two-time player of the year goes that late. Please explain.

If you have that answer. How late? It's late. What did you say? How did he get drafted? How did he get drafted? You said you should be fired. You should be fired if you drafted him in the first round.

How many sinners? Hold on. How many sinners went in front of him that was 19 years old, and he's the two-time player of the year? Please explain it, Dan. What two teams drafted him? Two stupid teams. Explain.

Two stupid teams. Explain. Why did two 19-year-olds go in front of him? You said he wasn't going to get drafted at all. Why did two 19-year-olds go in front of him? Not even two 19s. How many centers went in front of him? Hold on. So two centers went in front of not even two night you said how many sinners were in front of hold on So two centers went in front of including his teammate Donovan clean three sinners. Okay, three big man

Recess a technically small for at seven foot. So there's three seven footers that went in front of them Two centers are better than him because they went before him. No. What are you saying? What are you saying? So what are you saying, Dan? I'm saying explain if...

Why did they pick the younger ones? Because they wanted to fucking pick them. Why? What do you mean? Because they had the record. Why did Portland pick Sam Bowie? Why?

Why did Portland pick Sam Bowie? I'm asking this question. I'm asking this question. No, what? I'm asking this question. No, stay right here. Why did they pick Sam Bowie and not Michael Jordan? Why did Portland pick Sam Bowie? I'm asking this question. I'm asking this question. No, what asking this question? No, stay right here. Why did they pick Sam Bowie and not Michael Jordan? Why did Charlie Trayton?

Why Kobe Bryant? Why did they trade Kobe Bryant? Hold on. Hold on. Say that again. Why did Portland pick Sam Bowie? Why did Portland pick Sam Bowie? Yes.

How many guards did they have on the actual team at the home and home? I don't care. I don't care. They do. I know that Clyde Drexler wasn't there. He was. Oh my God. Clyde Drexler was there and Klay Thompson's daddy was there, right? Michael Thompson. Yes, Klay Thompson. He was there. How many actual shooting bars was on the team? So they needed a center. Jordan is the best pick. I'm... You're proving my

point. You're proving my point Yeah I can't be proving your point Because the number one pick Was a sinner Okay A sinner Okay so Sam Bowie A sinner They didn't pick a fucking girl

Sam Bowie went to Portland Because they needed position right They needed a B Okay How did y'all put them Next to each other So if Elena Hawks Need a fucking sinner

Diabolical Why did they pick A 19 year old sinner They liked the 19 year old sinner Why Because they like him 19-year-old sinner? They like the 19-year-old sinner. Why? Because they like him. Why? Because he's international.

Why? Please answer without a stupid fucking question. They want him to be like, you wanted to use position. They think they can get a Wimby. You tried to use a position. You tried to get another Wimby. You tried to use a position. You tried to use a position with the Michael Jordan.

They didn't get Michael Jordan because they already had three guards that can score. So they went with a big. Now let's go back to the fucking question. Atlanta Hawks needed a big. There's a two time. Who did Atlanta Hawks need? College MVP. What position does he play? Center. to time Center no listen a small forward. No, which one?

Standing on it. He's standing on it. Do y'all hear how he argues with lies? He stands on that. The second pick is the same. Two standers, one before him. He stands on it. Not Atlanta, though. Not Atlanta. Not Atlanta.

Washington. Now speak. Now Atlanta. Washington. So ask why Atlanta didn't pick. Why did Atlanta? Why did Washington pick him? Atlanta, why didn't you pick him? Washington. Washington who? Tell him. Washington who? So ask why Atlanta

Because they fucking wanted to okay, so why didn't blaze I did a real question Y'all was talking about how great he is cuz they were two teams that needed a center. And they chose to pick other guys. Why? Because they wanted to. Why? They evaluated him. Why? He is the best center there. Why is he going somewhere that is not that good? We like your EKG. Because it doesn't always go that way.

It beats a little different. We like the way it beats. No, no, no. We don't like the way your knees look. No, no, no. We don't like the way your knees look. No, no, no. We don't like the way your knees look when you run. You've got to answer intelligently. Oh, now we've got to talk intelligently. We've been talking so stupid for so long. Now we've got to talk smart? No, no, no.

You guys said you guys were standing on how great he is. So if he's the best player in the draft, and we're going by position, that means he should be the first center there. Why is he the third? Why does that mean that, Gil? So the team can't pick who they want to pick? They got to pick who you want them to pick? Who's the college player? Hold on.

He's the college player of the year. Twice! John Woodward, right? Two times. So therefore, listen, that did not matter to the team gear Why you got a fucking ass them that why? Call them. I 19 year old you got a phone number. Do you play for I pick it all no You call you said it was all my logic. You know that it's theirs you so I'm saying

Would a call and ask him why it's theirs. So I'm saying why would why would a team why would a team pick a 19 year old. No you said it was my logic and I said it's their logic. So call and ask. It's their logic. So why are they picking a 19 year old sinner who's not proven over a 22 year old.

Because they're stupid. Obviously. And it's so you're trying to defend the stupidity. That's so crazy, because we talk about being in college longer and stopping these young kids trying to chase this bread, and they undeveloped, and you sitting here saying,

this is okay. It's not. He always talking about this line. It's not. Gil, you always talking about this line. He not ready. Whoa, whoa. Gil, you always talking about this line.

Let's line them up, right? Let's play one. Let's do this, that. I guarantee you. talking about this line. Whoa, whoa, yeah, you always talking about this line them up, right? Let's play one to do this that I guarantee you Guarantee you line that boy up at the Wizards draft to that center and Zack Edie Zack Edie eats his fucking luck Every night cuz he's three years old. Oh now it matters fucking man. You want to come play with the big boys? But you want me to have a age restriction. You want to come in here and fight with the boys. So it don't matter if a freshman is playing a senior and they both average the same.

In the army. Are we not protected? In the army, does age matter? If you're 19 and you enlist, if you're 33 and you enlist, you would ever die. If you're older, you're still there. If a freshman, if a freshman, it matter no no if a freshman at us 20 points Oh, and they see you have this 20-point. Oh, who is better?

Who is better no who have his point who's better no, but the freshman that's averaging 20. No, brother. 100%. Oh, Gil. Hey, hold on. Hold on. Because when you was a freshman, you was on JV. It's a different. My freshman year, I was freshman. I was player of the year, freshman year of high school. What did you just say? And I was tied with a senior. With a senior.

Tied with a senior. He was listed as better than me. You're behind him? Because he was a senior. Did you believe that? I knew I was better. But we had to share the award. You shared the award he was a senior. Did you believe you? I knew I was better But they had that we had to share the war you shared the war We had to share with because they thought he was better than me, but my numbers said different. Whoa Gil Gil. Hold on

Now now you're going back to what I had your numbers as a senior Compared to his numbers as a senior, what was that? Same. So you averaged as a freshman the same as a senior? No, I averaged less as a freshman, but I played... I started and played enough to get the award. No, no, no, what I'm saying is... Hold on. He's a senior tying you on a war, right? You're a freshman, he's a senior.

What I'm saying is when you became a senior, what were... Did your numbers match his, or were you past his? He was gone. No, when you got... We know what he... He never got to his senior year.

Your senior year. I left where I was at to go to a different place. So let me ask you a question. After my sophomore year. Hey, fuck all that shit. Did your sophomore year numbers be his senior year numbers? No. Yo, fuck all that shit.

Gil, we're talking about two professionals here. Did your sophomore year numbers beat his senior year numbers? No. Yo, fuck all that shit. Gil, we're talking about two professionals here. You brought up college shit. Why did you... So you always want to move the fucking goalposts. All the time. We're talking about the two guys that got drafted in this fucking past draft. The 19-year-old dude that you fucking...

that you raving about... 10-4-4. The one that... No, the fucking big. No, the hard. He says Shashar. Bub Carrington. No, he Carr4. The one that you know, the fucking big. No, the hard. He says Shashar. Bub Carrington. No, he Carrington. That's who he talking about.

I'm talking about the big. Yes, Carrington. The big. That's who he talking about. Who's the big? Sar is the big? He plays center, right? Yes.

That guy, he's 19. Yep. He got drafted by the Washington Wizards as a center. He's a professional athlete right now, right? Yes. Zach Eden's a professional athlete right now, right? Yes. Zach Eaton's a professional athlete right now, right? Yes. Line them two up that I'm talking about.

He ain't in fucking college. He's a professional athlete. Start. Getting paid. Millions of dollars. I'm talking about that motherfucker. Line him up with the dude in Memphis that went nine. He eats his fucking lunch.

Every single time. Right now. He's his fucking lunch. Every single time. Right now. He's better than him. Who the fuck is age? He's a professional athlete. Duh. He's a professional athlete, right? Name all the...

When Kobe got drafted... So therefore... When Kobe got drafted, you can line him up with any other shooting guard. Fucking lunch. When... When...

When... When Kobe got... When Kobe got drafted as shooting guard... No, no, no, no. We're going to do the same... We're going to do the same metrics. We're talking about two reasons When Kobe got drafted as shooting guard. No, no, no, no, no. We're going to do the same metrics. We're going to do the same metrics.

Two real people right now. We're going to name how many shooting guards is better than Kobe when he got drafted. Two professionals. We're talking about two rookies right now. Two professionals. We're talking about real time. Let's go to his draft. We're talking about real time. This draft. Real time. Right now. Two professionals, right? Real time. Let's go to his draft. I'm talking about real time. This draft.

Real time, right now. He can't function. This draft. This is too hot. This draft. Gil, why you got to bring up niggas that... Because you're bringing up how he would eat his lunch. I'm talking about who would have eaten Kobe's lunch when he was drafted at 18.

But why did you have to use Kobe, though? Right now. That's an extreme. You're going to the extreme. Can we use the normal person? You're going to the extreme. Why would you use the two people that's playing in the NBA right now? Because Kobe, he's not on Kobe level for you to go get Kobe. You're trying to use Kobe for the extreme example. You can't show nothing.

We'll use the two people that we're talking about right now. We'll use the two people that we're talking about. You can use it every year. A 22-year-old should fuck up an 18 or 19-year-old. That is the purpose. We use the two people that we told you can use it every year. They drive a 22 year old Should fuck up an 18 or 19 year old. That is the purpose The age gap is very different. So why are you What happens when a man's lead what happens when a man's lead what happens when the 20 when the 19 Why did they draft him at 19? Why why did your former team draft him?

Who at 19 the fucking washington wizard because he's 19 because they wanted to right that means at 22 they wanted to drive at 22 because they wanted to drive him 19 because they wanted to drive 19 we think when he turns 22 he will be averaging more than fucking 11 no no no no when he turns 22 he's gonna be he'll be like that no he'll be better no he'll be like three years from now you'll be like he is that's what you're that's what you're lining up for years he would not be better than that's what that's what you're whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa three years from now three years from now

he's gonna be here. It's going to take you so much more longer to get to Zach Edie three years from now. Three years from now when he turns 22, Zach Edie's numbers at 22, they're not even comparable. Because he's going to be averaging 25 and 13. Who? Zach. He's going to dominate this league. Are you forgetting one is three years behind, dude?

He's three years behind. So you banking on Alex Sarr to dominate the league. He's three years behind. No, what I'm saying is he's three years behind. Are you not missing the concept? He's 22 years old right now turning 23 this year, right? So 19, 20, 21, numbers really don't fucking matter. When he turns

22, will he average more than this guy that we're drafting today? He is three years above. That's like teaching two kids, one 19, one 16, the same fucking move. You're teaching them the same fucking move. When this kid turns 19, will he have been better same fucking move. You're teaching them the same fucking move.

When this kid turns 19, will he have been better than what he was in 19? So what if he gets, what if three, what if he's not? That's the gamble that they do. No, no, that's the gamble that you're taking with this take. That's the gamble that they make. This take is a gamble. You're making a gamble with this take because you're using a hypothetical. It's not a hypothetical. This is what it's being.

What if he gets to year three and he's not? A what if is a hypothetical. Let me step in real quick. Let me step in. We asked the chat. Is it obvious? 81% said yes. I don't know what's obvious, but it is. But let's keep this thing moving. Very spirited debate discussion. Devoted a little

bit more time to Zach Eady than I initially had expected, but very passionate on this lovely Wednesday here in Gills Arena presented by Underdog. My simple question. So Grizzlies take on the Lakers tonight in Memphis, who desperately need a dub to cap off their five-game road trip. Lakers are riding high after starting the season with three straight wins,

but things went south during their first road trip with the Purple and Gold, losing three of their last four games. Like I predicted. Including a... Oh, yeah, what did we say? You bring it up. Oh, shit. We said three. Now you're being real dumb. So negative. So negative. About their first 10, right? What?

What I said, they can even do three and seven, right? Four and three right now, so my prediction is that's cute. Outperformed. Already outperformed with three games to go. Outperformed? No. Lost three of their last four games, including a loss at the Pistons Monday night.

Very difficult to watch. That was surprising. For fans of basketball. But AD's been playing at an MVP level this season. This is a good game. But re-aggravated a nagging left foot injury with about six minutes remaining in the game. After limping up and down the court for a few more possessions, he dropped to the ground.

Not once. Set that shit up, D&AD. Not once, but twice. Hold on. See the limp. Looked like he was crip walking for a second. Set that shit up, D&AD. But this play right here, after a timeout, stoppage of play.

He leaded the league in scoring right now, didn't he? Can't walk to the locker room, dude. AD stayed in the game, though. Can't walk to the locker room, dog. Is that the soft shit we was talking about? You can't walk to the locker room, dog. He stayed in the game, can you? He got briefly examined.

Man, he got to be carried. Briefly examined. He didn't lead the league, right? So AD stayed in. We, okay? He got a brief league exam. He got to be carried. Brief league exam. He's in the league, right? So, AD stayed in. We're going to get there. AD stayed in the game, finished with 37 points, 9 rebounds, 4 assists, 39 minutes of action. So, AD was asked about the injury and the potential of missing some time,

but shut that down saying, I've been managing it since this summer. Honestly, my goal for every game is to be on the floor, and I just kind of landed directly on the spot that's been killing me. So we'll figure it out. So LeBron was also asked about AD's injury in the locker room with AD nearby and had this to say. We just talked to AD.

Usually when he's been kind of banged up, he's been fairly positive about what's in front of him today. I think more uncertainty from him. There's been, there was maybe more uncertainty in kind of what more uncertainty from him. Say that again, what? There was maybe more uncertainty in kind of what's ahead of him. Yeah. What's that going to mean for this team?

What, if AD's out? Mm-hmm. What do you mean? You want me to answer a question you don't answer, too? I mean, I guess how concerned are you? How concerned are you? I don't know. I'm going second by second.

If he's out for a stretch. Yeah, I don't want to play the if game. I'm going for AD sales and see how he feels over the next couple days and go for air. But I'm going to take a rocket science and know if AD's in or out. He shouldn't be invited back. Dan Invited back damn wonky good man La time is that you don't even get to ask me no more questions, but this is all this your chick behind him So damn well, he's been what great relationship with LeBron. That was nasty. Just curious as nass just curious. So long I can be reported as you know, he's mad of the people who people. But you know he's not trying to answer it. Move on.

Yeah. Just move on. You're trying to corner him. You're trying to corner him. You know what I mean? Like, I can say, hey, so what's up? And then you start giving me that look. So, you know what?

I got a new question. Yeah. Like, take that. What kind of question is that? What you want? Come on, man. In Dan's defense, LeBron did not pull out the brush yet. LeBron did not pull out the brush and start vigorously getting the 360s going.

But, no, I understand what y'all saying. So, AD's had questions about his durability in the past. Did play 76 games last season while averaging 35.5 minutes per game, both highs since joining the Lakers. This season, he's played in every game so far, averaging a league-leading 32.6 points, along with 11.6 rebounds and 36.3 minutes per game. But given AD's injury history, is he being asked to do too much for the Lakers right now?

No. He can do more? He's not being asked to do too much. Okay. This is what we've been saying. So, no, I don't, yeah. How much did he get paid? Yeah, he's 32 and 12.

You know, a reasonable amount. A reasonable amount. Yeah, I don't think he. You know, a reasonable amount. A reasonable amount. Yeah, I don't think he's been able to do that. Comparatively. The conversation I remember having was... He's been thinking that it should be games. So he had 37, Bron almost had a triple-double, and they lost. Did not win, Kenny, yes.

A gritty pissing squad. The other team had more points than y'all did. One of the top teams in the bottom third of the Eastern Conference. But, yeah, you know what I'm saying but I just early Early, I think you keep it up. He just gotta be out there to keep it up. So we know this we know this from him He's knickknack knickknack paddywhack Mr. Nick man, hey, did this on a three-year mr. Nick? That's nasty just to see the nickname and you can see like it's gonna happen all year long

Which can't go he gonna do this all your life. It's the so it's the knickknack, and you can see, like, that's going to happen all year long. He going to do that all year long. So, it's the perception of things. Yep. Okay, you don't have to go to the back. I said maybe, because I... Dude, go sit on the bench. All that carrying on. No, don't sit on the floor, though.

Don't sit on the floor. Hey, don't sit on the floor. Trying to tough it out. You can go tough it out and sit on the bench. Yeah, it's just... It was right there. Yeah. Four more steps.

Footy out of it. Go figure it out and get back four more steps Right, that's how we saying this stuff like that that make people be like There you go Had a great game right at 37 Just feet ankles. So everything left foot injury says been nagging about them since the summer Landed right on the spot. He said and re aggravated it limped up and down the court stayed in the game though Toughed it out against a gritty piston squad

It has to be a better I don't Go get some Jordans dog Why Jordan's not even ages zero Y'all know anybody who's the angles in Jord Jordan's he's not you guys. That's true Because the way Jordan's are made The supporters in the heat the heel itself so it stops you from rolling right so they they've mastered the heel So that's why you really never see people that twisted ankles in MJ.

So go get you some MJs, man. Yeah, cuz the street version of Michael Jordan's different. Not the real ones, not that, yeah. Not the one they sell in the store, and the ones you can go play in, the one they get basketball version. Get the from Nike. Yeah, yeah. No, no, no, Nike's head quarter, not Nike shop.

Yeah, not Nike. Head quarter where they, it's just weird that he's always having little, I mean, I know he's big, so. Like little tweaks. You know. Yeah, he's a Bambi legs I believe been referred to on this power through Tough it out, but he's playing he's playing amazing right now Like he this is the shit. This is the shit that we've been waiting like before he probably would have wouldn't sit down He probably wouldn't finish the game. I need a big girl

He needs a big no, no Work on his legs. Not because big girls all gonna get picked up. No, no, no, no, no. Work on his legs. No, because big girls all going to get picked up. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. He got the chicken legs. He need to be further away. Nobody got time for that. Squat. Nobody got time for that, baby.

Get in there and get underneath that thing. Functional squatting. Functional squatting. Weight lifting won't help that. He got bad hamstrings. Weight lifting wouldn't help? No, no, no. He got to be down and up.

He's got to be... Just dead weight, huh? Dead weight. He's got to be straight up. He's got to be throughout the day. Throughout the day. Throughout the day. Down and up. No, they do that now. They kind of... It's gotta be down enough. Just dead weight Not a do that now they kind of it's the one with the water in it. I just moves just keep Because you don't wanna he don't really want to do that kind of work. This the kind of work. He ready to do this. Come on, AD. He got the leg strong. I mean, I talked to you guys beginning of the season about guys playing in the Olympics.

What? You said MB shouldn't have played. I said AD. She didn't even know what to do, right? Like, how do we get there? This is Gil's arena, like. Get his legs stronger. He's talking about his leg.

He's being durability. Building leg. It's easy for you short dudes, man. Like, big, us tall dudes, like, weight. Difficult. That's what I'm saying. It's like fast switch. It's fast for you short dudes, man. Like, big, us tall dudes, like, weight. Difficult. That's what I'm saying. It's like fast twitch.

It's fast. Man, 6'11". You're gonna twist this thing. It's gonna, it's gonna, now you're gonna have a meniscus. You gotta get strong somehow. You're gonna have a MCL and a meniscus injury. He really gotta be on that, like, yoga yoga. Like, Wimby, Kareem.

Yoga and Pilates. Yoga and Pilates. Yeah, he has to be on it. Like, he really has to. He gotta talk to Carl. I mean,imby, Kareem. Yoga and Pilates. Yoga and Pilates. Like, he really has to... You gotta talk to Carl. I mean, no, never mind. Nope. You know what?

See, beginning of the season, I asked you guys how the Olympics would impact guys like A.D. Brown. We're seeing the impact this had on Wimby. We're seeing it. Look at Jason Tatum. He looking great. Nice and rested. I think they put an emphasis on being more in shape than they do actually being strong

and durable throughout the season. They just feel like, if I'm in shape, I should be a tip-top shape, not actually being like your body being 100% healthy. I think that's the thing that everybody's failing to realize. You can be in great shape, but then your body's breaking down because you're staying in shape, but you're not paying attention to the body. With the shorter training camp, though, do you think that is impacting these guys? Because now they're having to more play themselves into shape rather than training camp. Yes, that's what I'm saying as far as cardio.

Just being ready to play all the time. Did you have a lot of ankle sprains? Not early on. Right. But throughout, I had a little twist and all that, but I had a little sprain in my shoulder. I guess the guys who who jump off the floor, who actually get off the floor... Yeah, we watch them when we're landing.

Yeah, we got strong ankles for the most part. And if you do have a twist, that's because you're down there with the goofy big man with the big feet, and you might twist a little bit. Like, when you think about just, like, the bigs that actually get off the floor, you don't really see them with ankle injuries. Nah. They always the ones in the way.

Yeah. Well, also, like, Embiid and AD, they be on the floor a lot. They fall a lot. They don't know how to control themselves. They are always on the ground. Clumsy. But he's averaging 32 and what? 33 points per game.

What's the record? Four and three. Winning record. For now. In a very tough Western Conference. Don't worry about that. Very tough Western Conference. What was the about that. Very tough Western Conference. What was the record we said that they was going to end up with?

Three and ten or three and seven. Something extremely disrespectful. Something losing. Already surpassed expectations. I think it was four and ten. We're about to go on a five-game win. Already surpassed expectations. It didn't look like that.

I think we might have said five and five or four and six or something. Five and five. Gil said five and five. Yeah, he did. Hell no, I didn't. Oh, yeah. I said 7 and 3. You finally got a fact checker over there. I finally got a...

I said 7 and 3, possibly 8 and 2. He's the fact checker. I would never go 5 and 5 if I'm not on my team. I'd never go five and five on that on my team I had a five but I'd never go five and five crazy who says seven three or eight and two so we're about Who are the next two? 76ers and the Raptors. Oh, they're not winning. Neither one of them.

Smack, smack. They're not beating the 76ers. Grizzlies tonight. Who they just lose. Grizzlies tonight. Sixers Friday. Smack. Who? How many games did Detroit win last year?

We're not worried about last year. Okay. This is a playoff level team. We're talking about the J.J. Riddick, Los Angeles Lakers. You don't think they're going to beat the 76ers here? in it and lost to the who coaches the Detroit Pistons now JB Bickerstaff JB Bickerstaff. They're gonna be this is top Better record than the six Very good. Whoo. We got these next three games will be seven and ten

76 is gonna put up, wha-wha-wha-wha-wha! Fuck them up. Without who? No, they're not. Wha-wha-wha-wha-wha! We will be in the building. I'mma do what's up. For the Sixers game.

Supporting KJ Martin. Why you trolling like a bitch? Ain't you tired? Pfft! But Gil, I mean, just looking at AD again, his injury history, you think it's fine to try to keep having him carry this much of the workload? It ain't even, he's not doing anything that he can't do. You know what I mean?

It's not like he's, like we're forcing him to just be dominant. He's just being dominant. That is true. Right, so. You think they got to lower his minutes at all? Not right now. Not yet. Do you think they got to lower his minutes at all? Not right now. I don't, you know, I don't... We don't have a...

We really don't have enough coming off the bench. Do we even have any solid bigs coming off the bench? So, Gil, maybe to my next question, Lakers still without Christian Wood, Jaron Vanderbilt, both still recovering... Wait, wait, say that again? Without Christian Wood and Jaron Vanderbilt. Okay, stop at the first one.

Yeah. The fact that you're asking, the fact that y'all having this conversation, No, the fact that you asking. just tells me y'all cooked. Y'all so cooked. You know what I'm saying? Two vital players. Two vital role players.

That's a three, what is it? Two, three, four, two, two, three. Vital role players. Two, three, I know, but I'm saying. The guard fours and five. Where's our, we need some. Okay, that's what we got. The fact that y'all asking, like,

should we decrease his minutes? No, never. He stays healthy? No, just manage his workload. What? 200 and how many million I like 180 not that much. I didn't realize last year was the most games he's ever played you Didn't know that no They didn't get it. I just assumed when he was fucking 1922. He was clean 7780 games don't you think he should have been rewarded for that you should have got a championship for all that actually did shot in season tournament championship did get a

championship did get rewarded for that stellar play with hanging another banner he deserves some time off take your time Andy no Take your time. But just the point, though. Without Christian Woodson, without Vanderbilt, just letting that be known, Lakers are 30th in bench scoring right now. 30th? 30th. With that killer bench that they got?

23rd in that rating. That killer bench that the Lakers got? You tell... Come on. Man, we can't ask Bronny to do everything. Come on, man. I can do everything. I mean, we can't ask him to to do everything. Come on, man.

I mean, we can't ask him to do everything. But we picked him, folks. God damn, he grabbing water, he getting towels, he's keeping everybody up. He's smiling. He's smiling on them. Yeah, he giving his hands up, giving a little autograph, taking a little picture.

The man can't do everything. Didn't we sign somebody from Miami? We signed somebody from Miami with some good money. He had a 0-0-0-1 in 18 minutes. Oh, yeah, he was robbing the Lakers. You was bigging him up. You was saying, Max, Max, Max. I was like, that's not his name. It's Gabe, man.

It's not Max. It was three letters. I was close. Yeah, but there is a Max on the team, though. It's Christy. Gabe is four letters. You got them all mixed up? That's why they're playing like this.

All of them, you know, it was just all three letters. Gabe, Ty, all just these two, three-letter type of dudes, you know, playing AAU basketball. You asked for this. We didn't ask for no YMCA players. Yes, you did. You accepted all of this. He was like, we ain't need to make no moves.

In all seriousness, though, how worried are you about the Lakers' lack of bench depth at this point in the season? Is it that big of a deal with seven games in? We got some reserves coming back. It's a problem. Got some key rotational players. The fact that they're even 4-3 without Vanderbilt

and Christian Wood to me is... And to be honest, it's not even... You can't even do the old typical take two starters out and put them on a bench and take these two in, put them in. And, you know, we pretend we have this great bench when we really don't. They tried that last year. We don't have enough. When we, like, playoffs, cool, but to get through the regular season, you're going to probably need about 10 players right now.

Well, to quote Smokey's mom, make it enough. Make it enough. Make it enough. I mean, like, even with, like, let's say, let's go, even though Milwaukee's losing, right? When their team is full, they still got a Bobby Portis coming off the bench. Right? They have one of those type of guys.

We have Dalton Connect. I mean, Philly, shit. When they starters get back, look at they bench. Shit, it's... Yeah. You know what I mean? Look at they bench. They got so much coming off the bench that it's crazy.

Like, when you're talking about championship teams, you're talking about, like, when Golden State, when they subbed, that bench took over. When the Lakers... They're not even getting shots up. When the Lakers won those two championships, think about the people that was coming off the bench back then. They're not even getting shots on goal off the bench.

Like, they're not even attempting shots. Yeah, Gabe, 18 minutes, no shot attempts. You know why why? The office doesn't have him in the queue This is a JJ Redick production Who's the stars? Lakers hmm, Ron and 80 Nobody else starring in this show

So if you ain't got nobody up next to bat, when them down, they don't need everybody on the bench, like, you better not shoot more than two. You know, Pat, like, they already got the organization where the team and the plays are set for everyone to get certain actions, but them actions ain't for you to thrive. The action is for them to get maximum ability

out of AD and Brian. So you got left with Gabe and you left with all of Cam and all those guys on the outside waiting for shots. And then you gave you like, well, why are you being aggressive? It's like, cause we're running a play, but that's, but that was kind of his role in Miami too. So I don't know why they didn't have no play. They were free willy. I know, but he was... It was three game. Free willy. Three game.

Catch and shoot. Three game though. I don't understand. It's three game scramble. Now we running sets. He averaged nine, eight. Man, don't... He averaged nine...

He averaged eight and nine over there coming over here to average three. Gabe? Just like Kendrick Dunn. Kendrick Nunn. And you know what we're gonna do? Hey, JJ, the fact that you played Cam Reddish. He sure did get paid off at nine points. Cam Reddish, like he's supposed to be a killer.

Wasn't he a killer? Supposed to be. Like this, he was an ultra-aggressive high school player. Who? Cam? Cam. He was giving people 40s and 50s. They said he was the best one out of the class. Yeah.

He was the best one. So how did he get so docile? Because they just stuck him in a corner. No. It's just like Ben McLemore. He was insane. They were the same type of guys. Once you put them over there, that's who they become.

And they don't know what that is. Didn't the New York coach say if they trade for him, he wasn't going to play him? Who? Was it Cam Reddish? Yeah. If I'm somewhat, I don't know if it was the Knicks. I think it was the Knicks at the time. If you trade for him, I'm not going to play him.

But something of that nature. When he got to New York. Oh, because he ain't see the floor in New York. Yeah, I think it was... It was, like, already agreed upon, like, you bring him here. Yeah, it was not a fan of the Cam Redders trade. Yeah. Who was that? Thibodeau.

Thibodeau? Yeah. Oh, it was a Tibbs thing. So if I'm not... It was like, if you bring him, I'm not going to play him. Yeah, that's weird. Wow. So weird. Didn't even give him a chance. And he did play I'm not going to play him. Yeah, that's weird. Wow. So weird.

Didn't even give him a chance. And he did play. He did not play at all. And we know he likes it. Like, as of right now, man. That's sabotage, bro. Yes. What I'm saying is with his confidence, like, we had him last year.

And the same thing. You're playing all these minutes and you're not attempting those shots. Why are you out here? That would be my question to him. I'm playing you 14 minutes. You have zero attempts Why are you out here? You can have zero attempts on the bench 48 minutes of this shit here, right?

There's 48 minutes on the bench zero attempts if I put you in the game, I need you to be aggressive Like you might just play connect. Like, he should be able to connect and get Gabe, Vincent, Minnis, and Cam Reddish. Two played, 14 and 18, zero attempts.

Now, if they was on the court at the same time, we playing three on five on the offensive end. This is a problem you pointed out last season as well. He's valuable

on the defensive side, but if you're not even attempting shots, the defensive side don't matter. But if you're not even attempting shots, the defensive side don't matter. But if you have a positive plus minus, the only one. That's why at this point, as a corner boy, he's just out there just to be out there because I'm getting paid.

When you call my number as a coach, I got to go in. And I know you playing certain guys over me. I might be killing them in practice. I might be doing everything I'm supposed to be doing, and it just don't feel like I'm being rewarded. So I'm off all of this, but I still show up. And he might not be putting shots up on purpose. Like he literally out there not shooting on purpose. Remember Lou Aldain? They didn't run no place for Louol Dain. Right? Luol Dain scored because he just moved. When that ball was coming at him, he was already on the go. He was cutting. He was slacking.

He always caught it on the go. He always caught it on the go. Like, stop being cinder blocks, right? If I know my man is sitting there looking at LeBron James and AD, why am I not cutting? Because I'll get in trouble. By who? If you pull it? You're in the way. Listen. and sitting there looking at LeBron James and AD. Why am I not cutting? Because I'll get in trouble. By who?

If you pull it? And get a layup? You're in the way. Listen, when you make that cut, it's a risk. Because if I make that cut while he's making that drive, I'm in the way. Spacing. But we know AD's not going to go quick.

We don't know what them two doing. I got to do whatever they not doing. If he over here, I got to stay over here. Like, let's say Embiid get the ball, right? We already know. When Embiid get the ball, what he going to do? He going to pump fake. So I have a couple seconds to go, come back, go do his thing.

He's going to play with the ball a little bit. You have chances to cut and backdoor. Because I've never heard Ron yell at nobody for, like, moving. Well, you mean you never heard of it in the public, in the media? I mean, I've never, yeah, I've never heard of him yelling at people for cutting. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Get your ass out the way. Really?

Get your ass out the way, man. What you doing? Just cutting? Get your ass out the way, man. You in the way. That's what made Caruso look good when he was here Absolutely, he was always moving back doing and cutting got easy Do that if you got LeBron make a link oh you can you can do nobody called a fucking play for him

Yeah, we're here link. Oh booze are posting up D wheel drive again, but he's found inside the office He found ways to move and when to move cuz we're running this they doing they pick and roll I'm about the back door in the back side. He gonna lie back though. That's easy. Just read right read around, but that's what I'm saying So I can't blame it. I can't blame it on the office itself When they just stand around you've never watched any but Kerry kiddos like he's gone and the plane for him He's gone shit, but you know the coach got to give you confidence. Oh, you got to do that yourself. You know Understand before you do it yourself The coach got to have the free freedom of movement

Embedded in the style. So if I do break the offense, I'm not getting in trouble for it But you're not British you and go back to your same spot. You can go back. Yeah. You could. You could. Replace yourself. Come back. Replace yourself.

You could. But if you out of position for the play. No, the play had already been ran. The play had already been ran. The play had already been ran. But we're talking about the breakdown, right? No, just. They're doing the pick and roll.

They're doing the pick and roll. I cut back, do a boom, and I don't get it. I go back. Replace yourself, right? Boom. But in the moment of me cutting, and I don't get it. Come back. We play, right? Boom. But in the moment of me cutting, if he going into his move. You didn't ran the play. I don't know.

Hold on. He got the ball. He making his move. I'm cutting. So just take Houston Fences, right? Mm-hmm. Fred at the top. Boom.

They run a little action with Sangoon and Jalen Green on his side. Cam Whitmore is on the weak side. They didn't run their action. Now Jalen got the ball at the top. They're not ready. So as Jalen getting ready to do it, I'm going to cut. Get out. You talking about as Fred?

No, Whitmore. Whitmore, yes, because he's on the back side. Yes, so cut. If they don't got nothing. Replace yourself. But I'm reading that. I'm reading the movement. That's what he's saying.

But they're not there with you. They're not moving at all. They don't even do that. They just stand on their motherfucking beat, waiting on the ball to come, Yourself, but I'm reading that I'm reading. That's what he said the move, but I'm but they not Coming the ball never come you get mad at don't throw it to you You don't shoot the mother but that's the same thing if they Are you like he cut back doing don't get it. Who's the player that you should just sit in the corner? What is these just like this? Dallas PJ Washington, yeah legs all just chill like yay on the block like no Back on these Case 12 come You got to be athletic, one. You got to... I'm in my running stance. Get back on D. Case 12 come.

That's it. We will see if the Lakers can get back on the right track. Back on the track. Fulfill the profit. Back on the track. We talked to our producers. There were reports that you did say the Lakers would start 5-5. I think you altered that. You initially said 7-3, 8-2,

but then you looked at the schedule and said maybe 5-5. Thanks, y'all. I appreciate that. So all I need is one more game, and I'm good? Your prediction comes true. Okay. I'll take the 5-5. Your prediction comes true.

I'm 5-5. I'm going to take the prediction. In Memphis tonight, expect a thrilling win over the Grizzlies. Appreciate y'all. Okay. Okay, yeah. But let's stay in the Western Conference. Real time. Fat checker. Mr. Okay, yeah. But let's stay in the Western Conference. Real time.

Fat checker. Mr. Fat checker. We hold each other accountable here in Gills Arena, presented by underdog Woof Woof. He's mad. Fucking foul. Keep his ass to 73. So I can say yeah.

Shaw has the club out. No team suck. Told you. So stay in the Western Conference. Thunder are one of two undefeated teams left in the league, along with the Cavs, with SGA currently the betting favorite to win MVP this year after second place finished last season.

So, Thunder gained a reputation for being down for each other as evidenced by their post-game interviews, which feature more than a half dozen players on the squad at any given point. So, during a recent episode of his podcast, Draymond Green had this to say about the OKC Thunder bromance. But the one thing I see with the OKC team that is a little alarming for me is like their postgame. It's like seven guys in the interview. Like there's a certain seriousness that it takes

to win in this league. And there's a certain fear you have to to win in this league and there's a certain fear you have to instill in a team in teams in order to win and i just don't know if they're instilling that fear in teams with all the bromance and stuff after the game like bro are we all the bros it's the homies like that's cool there's a time and a place for that but after every time somebody's in the interview you got seven guys eight guys then you got the same seven eight guys with a picture with josh giddy right after they play like again i'm all for having fun like it's an 82 game season you should have fun but you also have to understand what people are looking at you to be the team and you have to understand when your moment is and right now i don't know if okc understands but their moment is now their moment

started last year you go out you had that great regular season your clock starts now you're no longer the team that's just building through the draft you arrived. It is now time for you to take that next step. And I'm not sure that they quite understand everything that that entails. Wow. Barron, say something. So, Jalen... When feeling yourself goes wrong.

So, Jalen Williams claimed he hadn't heard Draymond's comments once he was told what he said. He said, I feel like it's kind of weird to have a strong opinion on it. But again, we're just so locked on what we have going on here. That's just how we come together as a team. So you heard what Draymond had to say. Is Draymond spitting or tripping?

Tripping. Saying he's concerned with the OKC Thunder bromance and being all up in the interviews and taking pictures with John Diddy. Tripping. That rope over here. Just without the death pole. It's the rope.

It's just the rope. Everybody want to be scary, Draymond. Alexa, you don't agree with Draymond? No, that was hate. He was being a hater. I think he, he talked about it for too long, I think. I mean, he can have his little opinion and be like, I don't really like that. But, like, him insinuating that they're not serious,

they're not ready for their moment. Like, they're not undefeated right now. Draymond, four-time champion, so he has some perspective on the subject. He does, but I don't, I mean, it's like they forget. Like, they was kind of wiling and clowning a little bit when they were younger winning at the beginning. Not to that extent.

Let us have our moment. My dang. Bro, why are you in the... Y'all had y'all's time. Always in the video, dancing in the video. You always want to... Now you want to come dancing out because you don't like the way we dancing. Let us do our moment the way we want to do it.

We want to take it to the chip the way we taking it. We going to be the first team to go together in front of the camera the way you don't like it every time Now they should do it even more just to piss you off Cuz you pissing me off So are you a fan of the Thunder coming together in those postgame interview man? They only college shit he King they only Man and then we're gonna call it a bromance. And he's trying to, like, that's taking shots, man. You still playing.

You ain't no former player. We over here. We can't take no years back. Let us back. It's going to be some haters. You still out there hooping. It sounds really weird that you sitting over there on the other side and you feel like this looking at them. When they doing their press conference, we know Draymond is looking like,

look at them winning. Look at them winning. Look at them winning. Oh, they're winning like we used to do. We used to win like, we ain't win like that. We did it our own way. Warriors are 6-1 this season. Touching me.

They are playing well, Warriors. Did I say you smiling? No. Iting me. They are playing well. Did I see you smiling? Nah. It's funny. One, who cares? It's local. Isn't it local TV anyway? So it's not like nobody gonna see that.

Well, occasionally when they do get a national game, they will also participate. Listen, I... But that's what makes it so genuine, too, because they didn't do it for the national cameras. They did it for their little OKC market. They always prioritize the local. Always do the local and i think that's means it's smart because it's shea who's doing it right after every game they want to talk to him and he's like now i

want my whole team here so we all feel a part of it right When you're talking about media, think about what the media did in Boston, or tried to do in Boston. Over here. We tried our best. They just tried to do it in the locker room.

You can't try to split them up. They're all there. They're all listening to what everything is being said. So they're... It's like an iron fence around them right now. And, right, you can say no one fears them. I really don't think they give a fuck. Straight up. Right?

They were number one last year, right, doing that. They're undefeated this year. So even if you're not afraid of them, they're coming in and whooping ass. They're 4-0 in y'all building. They're coming into y'all homes, playing with y'all crowd, taking pictures with y'all fans, right? So everybody's not scared of the rah-rah. They're coming in with a smile, killing you right now. You know what I mean?

I think a lot of us wish we had connection like that because those are the connections that win championships. And the one thing that he is getting wrong in his statement is, it's not their time. It is not their time. Their clock hasn't started yet? No, their clock has a start. No No, they just came to work a lot earlier

They suppose the clock in at 11. It's like they're at 8. So yeah, we've been here. We taking y'all money right now This is y'all money. We 22 23 21. We eat in y'all food y'all are on the clock. Yeah you Phoenix if you don't win it's over for y'all Lakers if y'all don't win it's over for us We good. Yeah, we just we came to the party just a little bit early shit. We wanted to see what was it all about Yes, everything that y'all... Yes, absolutely. You got to understand, like, Draymond not young. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Right? So the way they did it, just... he plays the game with more seriousness, right? I understand what he's saying.

I think the same thing when I'm watching the games, right? I understand what he's saying. I think the same thing when I'm watching the games, right? Like, shouldn't have asked one of you motherfuckers, right? I get it. I get you want to stop by, like, there's nothing wrong with your teammate getting celebrated, you stop by, hey, you the man, you walk your ass home through, cool. Celebrate, I get it. I understand what you guys are saying. Absolutely. They all won. And you're not breaking it up.

And I don't think they give a shit if people fear them or not. They still putting foot to ass. No matter what. It goes back to what I said in season two when, on our season two, Gears Arena. Okay. Right? Is that about the Dark World? About current players that have podcasts speaking on other teams.

You did? Goes back to that, right? Mm-hmm. Feel that way, dude. You can feel that way, but speaking on them is, right? For what? Now you sound like a hater. Bulletin board material.

For what? They're already a good team. Now you don't need no more ammunition for them to kick our ass even more. We got it on the board. And the statement is in quotations. Yeah, but it just goes back to my thing, man. Like, speak on your team, your situation. Speak on them winning.

Speak on Oklahoma City got the best record in the West right now. They doing well. But speaking on them as a group, how they celebrate and how they interact and all that. And none of your goddamn business, honestly. It's working for them. It's working for them. So it goes back. The game is over.

It goes back to speaking on other people, man. Mind your fucking business, man. I'm just a firm believer. It's a lot easier, man. Especially when it's something positive like that. Pay attention to what y'all got going on. Warriors will be in Oklahoma City this Sunday. Especially when you got your own shit going You got your own shit going on.

Like, it ain't like y'all undefeated, and you, like, can sit there... Six and one, though. Six and one. Surprise. You can sit there and be like, yeah, man, y'all need to do it the way we doing it. And it's weird that he's doing that, especially considering the way things ended for the Dynasty and Golden State.

Yeah. Y'all ended kind of weird, and now you're speaking on a team that's... And it wasn't no bromance, and it wasn't on none of that. Now you're looking at them like, I don't like that, but, like, look how you did your bro. Talk about it, Lex.

Talk about it, Lex. That's the only thing he can... It's like, they not even... They not even... They're not even old enough yet to know how to win in this NBA, right? When we're talking about, you know, Golden State, you know, y'all are 26, 7, 8 when y'all are winning. And in your 30s, like, these are young boys right now learning how to.

The hardest thing to do when you're young is good habits and learning how to win. Right? They're younger than Detroit, right? And we're like, oh, they're young. They don't know how to win at the end of the game. They know how to win at the end of the game. In the regular season. In the regular season.

I have a question. If they win it this year, will we be surprised? Yeah. Let's be honest. I would be. I would be. I would be surprised. You would? You would, too? I'd be surprised if they get out the West. I would be... The reason I would be surprised is,

your star player is 26. That's what it's been. But your supporting cast is all 22, 23, 21. Like, it's like... You got the right ingredients. I know, but the... They might be young, but they have the right ingredients. Well, to get to the finals, rather. 21. Like, it's like... They got the right ingredients. I know, but the... They might be young, but they have the right ingredients. Well, to get to the finals, rather.

Yeah. Well, let's... Let me... Because Boston's still really good. Let me not... No, they are. Boston's really good. But it reminds me of Boston

when they first got to the championship. We're like, we don't expect you to win because you're going to be playing against a veteran team that just gets it in the last two minutes. But they do have a dude who just knows how to play in the last five minutes. Like, like Shea ain't erratic behavior type of guy. So when you say, are you surprised?

I'm like, I am, but I'm not because of how he plays the game. Right. That's what I'm looking at. Yeah, he's not one of those, like, three turnovers in the last two minutes because he just... He's going to get to the free throw line. He's going to get a quality shot every possession. Like, he plays like a real veteran. I wouldn't be surprised if they made it to the final. I would not be surprised if they made it to the final.

Thunder haven't reached the final since 2012. Advanced to the second round for the first time since 2016 last season the 2012 that team, right? They play more even that that team had more stars like they have more star power this team This team is a better team Yes, this is a this is a better team than the 2012 team. Okay, the 2012 have better players This is a better team with the addition of Caruso. Yeah. Yeah Like this, yeah, I mean I first I remember like this is young James where he's trying to he's trying to get the year old Trying to get all those fouls. You don't have guys that's gonna be making mistakes like that. Yeah

So obviously you said they lack playoff experience last year. That would be their downfall. Got some of that experience this past postseason. See, they just played against a Luka. Can't get into your point. I wouldn't be surprised if this team gets out of the West or would that be surprising? I wouldn't be surprised.

Shai, you said that that may be surprising to you, that this Thunder squad can get out the West. Yeah, yeah. Out the West? I mean, the youth is still going to be a big contributor on them playing real playoff basketball and being able to get past the first round, get past the second round, know what it's going to take when you got to dog it out for a seven-gamer in the semis. I hear you, but so once again, more than they're going to be one, two in the West.

In the West, they're going to be the first one to see you at the end of the— Yeah. You don't think they'll be top two in the Western season? Huh? They got to go through their growing pains, too. Man, they're going to be top two. They've been playing well. Don't get me wrong.

Everybody play well at a certain point. But it's like, we catching on to what y'all do. Now you got to go to your counter only way they ain't one two in The West if she get hurt They good don't get me wrong, but Louis there's a thing called being overhyped No, they would not in there today going to play hoop man. We like this squad as constructed obviously adding Caruso Yeah, all defensive level player a big pickup But they got all these draft picks, all this capital,

all these assets they were able to move now to still be able to bring. They're like sitting on a goldmine. I'm not like this. We had KD, James Harden, and Westbrook on the same team. They did not get it done yet. All of them was number ones. They were all number ones. Never got it done.

Remember, those are, think about it. Are you going to get it done with them? Those are all number ones. Are you going to get it done with Les? No, but number one. Are you going to get it done with Les? No, but... Yes. But those guys were all MVPs. So they were fighting on who's all number one.

There was no, I'm number one, you do second option, I'm the third option. They've established it. In this situation, they've established it. In this situation, Les is better. First off and foremost, Kevin Durant was the number one option. Uh-huh.

Russell Westbrook was the number two option. That's what we're saying. And Harden. That's what we're saying. That's what we're saying. They didn't like... That was clear. For us.

As the fans. I don't think those players believe... Those players. Did not one of them players believe what you just said? They all thought they were 1A. Excuse me? Everybody was 1A. 1A, 1A. Excuse me? Everybody was 1A. Everybody was 1A.

That's why they didn't win. You got one guy coming off the bench like, why am I a bench player? That's why they didn't win. That's why they didn't win. That might be something y'all believe. Then why didn't you win? I thought they were 1A. Huh?

Because it's not a winning formula. They all thought they was 1A. It's not a winning formula. Right, because they all thought they was 1A. We know what they did. I don't think Westbrook truly believes that. It doesn't work like that. And then you say you're going to win with less.

Huh? Yes. In this situation, this is better. In the West? But what I'm saying with this. Less in the West. With all the assets and capital that they have. Less in the West is the best.

They still have the potential to bring somebody in even this year to help strengthen that roster. I'm going to say this, and it might sound horrible. It probably is. With the way their roster is right now, how good those players are right now and their age, that means you have the cash,

the talent, and you got gold backing you with those picks if You don't win the championship in the next six years That's a problem then No, well because You you have the talent right now and they're all young. So that means you're going to get better. You're going to get better, and you have draft picks as leverage to grab anybody you want. You still have Hardenstein.

Injured hasn't played this year. So what I'm saying is— I like to go get—so you think they're going to use those picks to get more players? What I'm saying is I can use any of these players right now and some draft picks to bring in whatever I want. So I have real gold behind me. any of these players right now and some draft picks to bring in whatever I want. Right? So I have real gold behind me. I, I, you know what I mean? But how many people

really want to come to OKC? I'm Obama right now. I'm Obama right now. I got all the money behind me. I got my swag. I know how to talk. Right? I, I have it all.

So if you don't, if you don't win in the next, I'm giving you about six don't if you don't win in the net I'm giving you about six years if you don't win in the next six years that is horrible because you You have everything you need hard to get people players to come to Oklahoma City. You need experts That only one you need assassins. They're the only ones who can get Greek right now without losing anything Hmm. Oh, yeah, they can get Greek right now without losing anything. They can get Greek right now without losing any, any... They can just give them picks. Huh?

I can just give them picks? Hey, y'all trying to reload? I got this pick, this pick, this pick. There you go. Give me him. Hardenstein is 17 first-round picks. They're the only team that can do it. Huh?

What's a championship team comprised of? Basketball players. Usually. What do you mean? Good ones. A great starting five. Good basketball players. Stars.

Good role players. Great role players. You know their roles. And experts. Assassins. Specialists. They got that. Yeah, specialists.

Is a role player and a specialist the same thing? No. Tell me who the specialist is. Shay. That's the star. And the specialist. He's not... You only got one specialist, or two specialists, but it can't be the star. The star's the star. Caruso is a specialist. The star is already... Specialist is already embedded in star.

Defense is a specialist. He's a star. So who's the specialist? Is that a thing? Outside of him. Is a defense specialist a thing? A defense specialist, is that a thing? It is. That's a star. So who's the specialist? Outside of him. Is a defensive specialist a thing? A defensive specialist, is that a thing? It is. That's Caruso. You got Caruso, Lou Dort. Lou Dort, yeah.

Oh, yeah. Who else is a specialist? You got two defensive specialists. No, you got three. You got Chet. Okay, so Chet's going to be a specialist. Okay, those are three. Defensively right now, that's what he can.

How old is Caruso, like 27? 30. He's the oldest player on the team. Okay, hold it. So he's an old specialist vet, right? He was ready for that. Do you have any shooter specialists? Is that... Knockdown shooter specialists.

Isaiah Joe shoots shit out that ball. Specialist, expert. Yes. 43% from three this year. Yes. That's what y'all depending on. Six attempts per game. He's going to be considered the new specialist in the NBA.

For his team... Come in and specialist in the NBA Well his team gonna get a buck for his team in the NBA. I wouldn't say he's a Specialist like a case on that team like a KCP. Yeah Six games Right now that's a lot six attempts if you have to share the ball So you got just best those so they got a star. They got one star. They got one star on the team behind you right now. They got one star. They got two defensive specialists and one shooter specialist.

Or three defensive specialists. I mean, I'm not going to call necessarily Jalen Williams, Chet. Stars at this point, but very, very, very, very solid players. Yeah, solid players. So comparing them to Dallas. Dallas got two what? Stars. Stars.

One special. Two. If one of the stars don't show up for OK Suit, how many stars you got left? Zero. Zero. Half a star. Okay. Star by commitment.

One star. Who did Dallas pick up? Klay. Klay. Is he a star? Yeah. Former star. He's a star? Yeah. Huh? Former star? He's a star.

Star. Star. Okay. Three stars. We got three stars. Dollar piece. 2.5 stars. P.J. Washington would be considered a what?

Specialist. At what? At what? At what? I would put him in role. Role player. What the hell? He's a role player.

He ain't a special. He's not a special. He's supposed to be, but he's not. So you mean to tell, hold on. You mean, so Klay is, so you mean to tell me PJ and Klay are the same thing? No. Klay is a star. No, he's a specialist. He's a specialist. On that team, he's a specialist.

On that team, he's a specialist. Well, to say he's a star. Oh, I'm sorry. He was a star. I didn't answer it. He's a star, but on that team, he's a specialist. I was letting y'all talk, but since you asked my question, since you said PJ Washington was a specialist, I disagree.

My point being is OKC's roster don't match up to even a roster that made it to the finals. Like, you don't got the ingredients yet to surpass these guys who are already a better— They're saying they're missing a star. And a good specialist. Like a good specialist. Like a known specialist. Why does it have to be known? Because he's reliable.

So what did Klay shoot from three? I think Klay averaged like 14 points a game this year. And what did he shoot from three right now? 38. We'll check. Give me one second, Kenny. You got to have a reliable sniper. Okay, I'm done.

You got to have a reliable rebounder. I feel like now you need two reliable snipers. Clay's shooting 39%. So Clay's shooting 39% from three and Isaiah's shooting, Joey's shooting what? 43%.

I'm not a mathematician, but I think when you're doing that, 43 is greater than 38, 39, right? When you're considering who's shooting. Clay's nine attempts per game. When you're considering who's shooting. Clay's nine attempts per game. Not when you're considering who's shooting. Okay, so...

A lot of attempts. A lot of attempts. Dallas... Listen, Dallas took them to the... They took Dallas to six games last year while they had two stars. Their Achilles heels was who? Josh Giddey last year.

Achilles heel? Yeah, yeah. He couldn't shoot. He couldn't score. He couldn't shoot. He was alive. He could facilitate. He could heel. Yeah, yeah. He couldn't shoot. He couldn't score. He couldn't shoot. He was alive. He could facilitate. He could rebound.

He could pass. He could rebound. But we don't need him to pass. Why not? Because we have the ball. Because our best player at this point was unstoppable. That's cool, but you still need to share the ball. That was Giddey's job.

But it became a liability in this series. Yeah, the playoffs. You just didn't know how to use them as a coach. Yes. So since then, our team has gotten better. We don't have that anymore. We have better players now across the board. You have two defensive players.

You didn't get what you gave up. We gave up nothing. You didn't get what you gave up. You gave up to them. We gave up nothing. You didn't get what you gave up. You gave up a passer and a rebounder, and you got a defender. You already had one. Defender and a shot maker. And a shot maker. And a what?

One of the screws. Man, Giddy, man, don't make me pull up Giddy's shoe percentages. Don't do that, man. I don't want to see him go long. But in that playoffs, we got a center who knows how a place there. They are better team than they were last year What is your last room? I'm pulling it up Right there better team or last year not good enough to get it to get past I don't think so at all. I know I know

No, no matchup. I'm nowhere near a three-shot this year anymore Caruso last year 41% on 4.7 attempts this season shooting 17% on 2.6 attempts so far this season. So he shot 41 last year? 41 last year from three. A little slow this year, picking it up. I got you, but it's... A little slow? He can make shots slow. Seven games into it. A little slow? Yeah. Y'all like just giving excuses and making excuses. When it fit the point, when the point fit two, when a point fit them is We gonna go with last year numbers So what is just getting super like a year 33% what if we love doing that's it getting shooting 44% all the time 44% it's a different shot Alex Russo former Laker so Just Sam man left against his will so he's no right man. She's right. She's all right. She me right man Left against his will won't be treated right. You know, I support you here in New York. They're a better team, though. They're better. Here in Gills Arena, present.

Like, sitting in the playoffs, he didn't do nothing last year. Man, here we go. Eight, two assists. Here we go. Right? The assists got only average two assists. Here we go. You're talking about what they're missing in the playoffs. Nah, I mean, he talking about we added up the numbers for Josh Giddey in Chicago right now

compared to Caruso right now. Tell me, who won the trade? 8-0. Tell me who won the trade. 8-0. I think OKC won and Josh Giddey won for himself. I said with the comparisons of the numbers. Who won the trade?

Giddey averaged 15-6-7. 15-6 and who? 15-6 and who? 15-7 and 6. 15-7 and 6? You said who? Who? 15, 7, and 6. 15, 7, and 6? You said who won the trade? And what is Caruso averaging? Okay.

You said who won the trade? It's 1, 1, 1. I always look at my phone and it gives me the magic numbers. And you said who won the trade? Aiden O. No, I know who won the trade. Caruso averaging a powerful three points. Sweet.

And what else? Two rebounds, two. Two rebounds, two. Still figuring out his foot. Now we got us a sniper. We got us a sniper. He's getting the playoffs. Still getting his his foot. We got us a sniper. We got us a sniper.

He's getting the playoffs. Still getting his foot in. We got us a sniper. Still getting his foot in. We got us a sniper. Shooting 17%, averaging three assists. Adjusting to life on the city. He said he was a sniper.

Man. Yeah, who said he was a sniper? Y'all said 41%. He a sniper. He a shooter. We said he was a special. We said a defense. No, no, no. Shooter is a defense. Oh, we said he's a defense. Y'all said 41% he a sniper. He a shooter. We said he was a special. We said a defense. No, no, no.

We said a defense. Oh, we said he's a defense. No, no. We going to clip it. Hey, we going to clip it. No, we going to clip it. I said he make shots. No, no, no.

We going to clip it. No, we said he make shots. Joe was the shooter. I said it. Joe is the sniper. Isaiah, Joe is the shooter. We going to clip it. Isaiah, Joe shoot 43%.

No, no, we talking about Caruso. We said he's a defense specialist. I go home and I clip it. Oh, okay. I go home and I clip it. I ain't got nothing else to say. I go home. Oh, hold on. I go home and I clip it. I ain't got nothing else to say. I said he makes shots. And I'm going to pull up the end.

And I said he makes shots. 41%. I said he makes shots. Y'all said he shot this. Yes. 41%. I said. He can shoot.

I asked. But we didn't say he was a... 17%, though. Caruso's not even starting. That's not even his replacement. Caruso's not even starting. Caruso comes off the bench. Who got traded for who?

I trade you a bench guy for your starter. Who won the trade? Oklahoma City. He's a bench guy here. He comes off the bench. He doesn't start for us. Bad trade to me. No. Is it? Was it a bench guy for a bench guy?

Yeah. Why is it a bad trade? Because he was a bit... They're both doing better. And my bench guy's averaging 15, 7, and 6. Okay, so he's doing 15 No, your starters averaging that cuz my bitch guys being valued in this place where he can actually benefit for the team Play me in the starters role so I can give you 15. We got a six so we got so much channel here

Caruso Started how much the Caruso start like Caruso started. How much did Caruso start? Like, Caruso started in Chicago, right? Where? Do this, Lexi! Do this! Caruso was a starter. What are you doing?

Nobody said that he was a defense specialist. We said he was a defensive specialist. So anytime you want to do this shit, they just supposed to, just because you do that, you right? Well, let's see. Do it again. Let's see if we hear the sound effect. Nah, I can't do it. Okay. Russo was a starter.

I can't do it again. It's an invoice. Every time I do it, it costs money. Every time I do it, it's copyright. It's copyright. I save up just enough for one episode. Come on, man. You can have our starter. You can have our starter. starter you can replace yours you coming off the bench over here I already said we are already reset so quarter. So we asked the chair. Would you be surprised if okay see one the West? 67% said no Gotta take it back. But let's talk about a serious issue. Hey! Hey, Paulo! Paulo! Flex. Gil just flexed.

I agree with you. I wouldn't be surprised if they come out the West. Gil just flexed. But for different reasons, then. Tapped into Shia's... Hey, Paulo, Shia gonna cuss your ass out after this show. Why? Why? Don't you ever, don't you ever give a goddamn my thong.

Don't you ever. Hey, I'll let that shit, I'll let that shit tickle your little stomach right now. Don't you ever. You niggas can laugh in the body bag. Don't you ever. All day long. Y'all can laugh in the body bag.

It's cool to giggle in the body bag. It's cool. Let it tickle your little bellies. Hee, hee, hee, hee, hee. The body bag's crazy. Hee, hee,le your little bellies. Hee hee hee hee hee. Hee hee hee. While we going in. Chat. Chat. Chat. Cool, chat.

Hey, chat. You saved him, chat. Now that now I got to give him a little breathing room in the body bag so I can get a little tickle tickle in there. Now everybody want to laugh at the old. Okay. Bet. I'm on it. I can adjust to anything.

He mad at you, Paulo, right now. So, shit. Me and Paulo going to talk. He said, nah, nah. Y'all can't giggle and sniggle all you want. Five minutes later, yeah, Paulo, we going to talk. Taking my button home another productive day

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So we're going to talk about, Lexi, your favorite team. Yeah. South's former team before he had to make the move of free agency. Celtics won their NBA record 18th championship last season, but apparently Noah Lyles isn't the only person who thinks they shouldn't call themselves world champions of the world. During a recent interview on Shane Larkin's Off the Recourt,

supposed to sound like record, but recourt, show, uh, Panathinaikos? Am I saying that correctly? Panathinaikos. Panathinaikos? Panathinaikos? That's how you say it. Can I have the language of origin? Panathinaikos? Am I saying that correctly? Panathinaikos. Panathinaikos? Panathinaikos? That's how you say it. Can I have the language or origin?

Panathinaikos. Just say Greece. The Greek team. The Greek team. Panathinaikos. EuroLeague champion head coach Ergen Adaman had this to say, saying, quote, you guys, referring to the Celtics, are not world champions.

You're only NBA champs. We, that Greek team I mentioned previously, are the EuroLeague champions. If you want to be world champions, come and play us, beat us, and then okay. You'll be world champions. EuroLeague, though? They're the EuroLeague. They are also not the world champions, according to his... Nobody say that to Panathinaikos like me. also not the world champions, according to his... Okay, nobody say that Panathinaikos like me.

That's the point of the challenge. So, Panathinaikos defeated Real Madrid for the EuroLeague championship last season. Leave them alone. Led by Kendrick Nunn's 21 points. Kendrick Nunn, you remember, was on the left. Yeah, we remember him. Not sure if he played again. We remember him.

We were looking for him for a while. Yeah. Where's he at? Playing the EuroLeague Panathinaikos That alone. What do you think about uh, what do you average? What do you average last year that alone? Every month I know it 15 no shade, but oh yeah, there's 15 points game. Yeah, there's 15 points a game was a huge challenging 15 points a game. And you challenging the Boston Celtics.

The Boston Celtics. We're not allowed to challenge. Where their fifth best player is your first best. If Derek White was over there, Derek White would be a damn near Euro MVP. But then do something about it. Their second best player was on Boston. Yes. Actually, he wasn't known for being on Boston

because he never got off the bench. Okay. He was in that movie with Ant-Man. Honcho, what was the name? Honcho, what was the name? Oh. Hernan Gomez. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. He's the second best player over there. He's the second. Second is a stretch, Gil. A little bit lower. No, no, no. In that EuroLeague championship there. He's the second. Second is a stretch, Gil. A little bit lower. No, no, no. In that EuroLeague championship. No, on the team.

Not the game itself, the team. He's the second, third best. Him. Yeah. Great actor. Mm-hmm. He said we know. Yeah, that's what they're dealing with.

Like, the guy that's the movie. It wasn't the Ant-Man's movie. It was his movie. Hey. Oh. Oh. It was Ant-Man's movie. Ant-Man's movie.

It was. I mean, it was. It was his movie. It was his movie. But you say it was the Ant-Man's movie. I'm just saying. Ant-Man and Adam Sandler. Yeah, yeah, what's the question again? That's where the third Greek is. He plays on that team. Giannis' brother also calls him. And he gets in. He gets in the game.

Wait, what was the context? Giannis was at the EuroLeague Championship. Do you know the context of why the coach decided cry that He was asked about it He gets in the game It's not just come over here then yeah seven game series was shot you think they got right they talk about one game. No, I know I believe you said that your team in Lebanon could beat the nugget we said that about 200. Did I say that?

Do you want to click have a chair you're immediate oh, no, no, you're the media. What did you just do to me? I'm a puppet. What did you just do to me? I'm a puppet. You just did it live on air live on air You said that I'd never said no. I'm a puppet. You just did it. Live on air. Live on air. You said that... I never said none of that. I'm a state-sponsored puppet. We said y'all have a chance to lose by 200. Everybody has a chance to win a game. No. Everybody. We just seen the Olympic

team barely win. But they still won. Barely win. And they had all the best players. You're only going to have two guys on this team. That are the best players. You're only going to have two guys on this team. It's a series. That are the best players in the world. That wasn't even considered on the Olympics.

I think it's just, EuroLeague is just one game, right? Boston. No, it's a series. You got a better chance to beat Boston than the Dream Team or the Olympic Team. Who? Any team.

The playoffs is best of five, and then the final four is single elimination. Okay, that's what I'm saying. But yeah, that championship game was just one game, right? Did they beat Real Madrid in? I don't know. Oh, hell no. They're tripping. Okay, that's what I'm saying. But yeah, that championship game was just one game, right? Did they beat Real Madrid in? I don't know. Oh, hell no. They're tripping.

Yeah, you're not... It don't matter if they play one game. They play 100 games. Yeah, they're going... Their best players were 15th men. Guess what we're doing, though? This is like... Hypothetical.

Wait, are we playing summer rules? We're doing... What you don't do is hypothetical. This is what we'll do. though? This is like, you know what? I'm hypothetical. Wait, are we playing Fever Rules? We're doing what you don't do. This is what we do. It's hypothetical. This is what we're doing. It matters a little bit. We'll make it visible. We'll make it visible.

It makes a little difference. What happened? We're taller, more athletic. Fever Rules versus NBA Rules. Okay. We just witnessed it the whole Olympics. That's what I'm saying, though, but it's like... Let the tallest guys stand right in the paint.

And I'm more athletic than your guys. Cool. I would vote NBA rules, though. That didn't work. That didn't work in the Olympics. We're not talking about Olympic teams. But I'm just saying, if this game ever happens, it has to be NBA rules.

The Boston Celtics versus their team. The Olympic teams on the other teams, they play together on the regular leagues, except for the NBA guys We're bringing the boss. I want NBA championship The international teams that we're talking about that wants to challenge the Boston Celtics and now they're national team players But now it was not the national team not listening to me I know that National League players play on those league teams like that team together. Yeah, there's without the NBA players

Okay, the team that is not gonna win the team that he coach Bringing the team that wanted here who was on a national team on that team nobody Zero doesn't matter. There's not a national cuz if Kendrick is your best Player doesn't a honcho second best player. This is a show that means that there can't be a national because if Kendrick is your best player, if Kendrick isn't your best player and DeHancho is your second best player, that means there can't be a national player on that team. But it's funny that he's saying that when he has NBA players on his team. Ex-NBA. They don't have no NBA.

Well, you know what I mean though. Yeah, yeah. But like you need it. So we know. You got the Americans. I can make that team right now as the 15th man. Have you ever heard of David and Goliath? Don't get quiet on me.

Don't let me say nothing until you get quiet. I don't like that. David and Goliath. You're always rooting for David. Huh? You always want David to win. Who? David and Goliath.

Yes, we got it. I was asking you. Yes. Okay, who's Goliath in this scenario? Celtics. Who wins? 12. Who wins? We got 12 Goliath. Yes, we got it. He's asking you. Yes. Okay, who's Goliath in this scenario? Celtics. Who wins? Twelve. Who wins? We got twelve Goliaths. David and Goliath. We got twelve Goliaths. Give a fuck how many Goliaths we got. In the story, how many Goliaths die?

But is that story capped? All of them. Is that story capped? There's no alive Goliath. You're dead. Dead. I'm not even going to do it, so you better not even push the button. Push it. Thank you. All I'm saying is this.

So did, I got a question. No. I have a question. Y'all got questions now. Y'all got questions. Everybody got questions now. I have a question. I was quiet during questions now. Yes, I have a question. I was quiet during the whole debate. I just have a question.

I forgot what we was talking about. Did David Goliath play basketball? With David Buster, I asked if basketball. Listen, listen. Were they hooping? Listen, listen. Were they hooping, Rashad?

I've been in a situation where it was just me versus four other superstars. This is AAU stuff. I ain't talking about it. But when you literally, like, stacked against you, oh, y'all went to get them? Bet. Let me up this.

They don't matter. They don't have a use. Don't matter. It do. Don't matter. It do. Don't matter. Every team has a chance. This is't have a use. Don't matter. It do. Don't matter. It do. Don't matter. Every team has a chance.

This is how bad it is. What did he say? You gave me a chance? Yeah, a chance to get your ass. Everybody got a chance. I'm going to give you a chance, alright? That's what they were just talking about with Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen and the new rule in the NFL. Give them a chance to win.

Sudden death, you ain't giving me a chance to come back down and score. Give me a chance. They're changing ain't giving me a chance to come back down and score. Give me a chance. They're changing. Give me a chance to get on the floor with you. Give me a chance to get on the floor with you and prove it to the champion. That's all they're saying. Give me a chance.

Out of all the coaches in the league, the Celtics coach would be the one to be like, alright, let's go. He ain't scared of running. Let's prove it. He ain't going to do it, but if there was one that would be like, all right, let's go. Set it up. He ain't scared. Run it. Let's prove it. He ain't going to do it, but if there was one that would be down to do it, it's true.

Let's do it. He just said it. Let's knuckle up. What's up? Let's bring knuckling up back. Hey, Boston, all you do is just send J.D. Davis, you send Pritchard. Pritchard going to have fucking 100.

You put Hauser out there. You can throw Tillman in there. You know what? Go ahead and just throw Walsh in there y'all win by 20 you see why they formed the Avengers why did they form the Avengers and send them over there to Paris that's not the same

because they got their ass blitzed in the FIBA and they said hey boss he's a lot stronger than we thought no that was a poorly done hey boss that's the problem hey boss he's a lot stronger! And LeBron said, don't worry.

We're going to get the pool together. The problem is he thinks the national team is the actual Euro championship team. No, I don't. I said players from the national team- Are not on this team. There's not one national player on that team. Then you say Greek's brother is on the team? The third one.

Coach, I don't give a fuck what one it is. You said he's on there. Is he on the national team? If he made the national team, you know they didn't have no chance of winning. You talking about? Pulling up the roster. How you talk about Bronny James being in the NBA. Man, how y'all talk about teams supposed to just go in and win because of who you are is...

Man, that's weird. I don't even understand that logic. Because you walk in, I'm supposed to just lay down. Man, what kind of... What kind of competition are y'all talking about? What kind of competitors are y'all talking about? I want the smoke with everybody.

Ooh, cool. I don't care who on your team. Everybody who went up against Mike Tyson, they wanted the smoke. Even the dudes that beat him. No, you went in there. What happened? I won. I was ready.

What was his name? Buster Douglas. Jail beat him. Oh, now jail beat him. I ain't knock him out, but jail beat him. Jail beat him. Nah. We talking about the motherfucker before jail.

Come on, man. Right? No matter. You trained for him 13 seconds, 3 seconds, 5 seconds, 12 seconds. That's...that's...it's not even...like... He forget Mike Tyson lost before he went to jail. Mm. Who you losing? Rick fight.

So what beat Mike Tyson? Mm. Who you losing? Rig fight. So what beat Mike Tyson? The nigga who knocked him out. What you mean? What kind of question is this? He said before. Before he went to jail. Mike Tyson going to tell you whatever.

No, he said before the fight. It's documented. What's documented? The knockout? That is, but he didn't try before the fight. That ain't got nothing to do with me. It does not. What the hell is going on?

Hey, if the Boston Celtics don't practice before they come over here and play us and we win, we got an excuse? They cannot practice forever. Your best player, your best player was a 15th man on our team. Your second best player was a 15th man on our team. The only reason he wasn't in the G League is because he had a movie out. That's cool. But he didn't get

no fucking minute. We ain't got to take no personal shots. He didn't get no minute. We don't have to take personal shots at the Boston Celtics. We don't have to do

nothing personal with no player. We don't need to talk down on nobody. We don't need to talk about nobody's game. Line it up and let's see if we can hoop, man. Line it up.

NBA, NBA, can you please? Line it up. Can you please send the G League team, send the G League team over there so y'all can see what it really looks like. They already can't mess with the Euros we got over here now. We got the Euros over here now. Send the G League team over there just so y'all can see. What are we talking about? You don't even have to send the G League champions.

Just send the regular G League team. We got one of us on y'all team. Go send Quincy out there. Quincy going to have a field day over there. Quincy Oliver. Quincy going to, what? Quincy. What? This is what I got,

huh? This is what I got? This is who I got? They can't even make the G League team, brother. Man. You don't think they want to be in the NBA, brother? Nah. Not even playing for the Lakers. Not even playing for the Lakers.

You saying Quincy can do all that, and he ain't getting no take. I thought we left that in... Say it again. Why am I so what? Anti-American when it comes to these topics. I'm very American. You know who the president is? You don't want us to win. I'm very American. What are you talking about?

You don't want us... Very American. What is that, honcho? President of the German Olympiad. Very American. I'm extreme American. I just don't like bullshit. Shout out to the president of underdog. Just just don't like bullshit.

Shout out to the president of Underdog. I just don't like the bullshit. You're anti-Jeron the Olympics. You being anti right now? So we asked the chat... Once Captain America retires, we good. We asked the chat who wins the world championship between Panathinaikos... Am I saying that correctly?

If it ain't 100%, I don't even want to... Panathinaikos? It don't even matter. Panathinaikos? Y'all see, we're in L.A. Greek is a hard language, man. Over here is Sadie. Who wins the world championship?

Panathinaikos or the Boston Celtics? 84% said the Boston Celtics. That means 16% shot. Oh, my God. 16%. Bro, listen. Explain. And we said 16% is too much.

Yes. Yes. Too much. Absolutely. Because we only needed one. Absolutely. We only needed 1%. 1%.

Absolutely. It was too much. Dead ass. Woo. 16 is way too much. Woo. We have more than a chance. We have more than a chance.

No. We have more than a chance. 16% to 84%. All right, but let's keep. I can make that team. Do you truly believe that? Will we have a chance 16% 84% are blessed. I can make that team Good you do you truly make it? We will we have a chance Would it change our chances? Nothing they would it change our chances if I can make the team would it change our chances?

Huh would it change our chances if you made the team if I make the team there's a problem So you just don't want to know what I said is I don't like when I'm just when they when the answers go to corner you No one avoided do we have a check? I'm the 15th man on the team if we add to do I can't bend my knees I can't jump I can't run full speed Okay All right? Gil's Arena race. And I can make that team. You're Gilbert Arenas. Cool.

You're Gilbert Arenas. If that gets me on the team, you got a problem. You're Gilbert Arenas, bro. You got a problem. And I know your pride. That can't get me on the TV team. Your pride ain't going to allow you not to kick in. Oh, no, pride.

Even with your bad knees. Oh, yeah. If you're even out there with bad knees alone you still Gilbert up here cuz Pride in reality is different No it ain't not when you being embarrassed not when it's embarrassing No not when it's embarrassing embarrassing is me making a team no Embarrassing is you not being Gilbert when you out there man. That's that's embarrassing. That's an adult that's embarrassing That's an adult league team. Hey Gil what you doing out here? That's an adult league team. Hey, Gil, what you doing out here? That's an adult league team. Bro, I thought you was Gil.

That's what my birth certificate said. Yeah, where we at? What we doing? He's just passing the ball. Yeah, my mama named me that. We thought you was better than that. I know you can shoot that from back court still. No, no, no.

Aw, man, we ain't signed. We done signed him wrong. Yep. He made our team, goddamn. Because we thought he was... We in trouble. We thought... We could have picked a dude that can... You should have. We thought we could have picked a dude that can.

You should have. We thought we had an NBA dude. Let's keep this thing moving. We're going to head over to college briefly. Likely number one overall pick, Cooper Flagg, made his college debut for Duke Monday. Duke beat them by a hole. In a game against Macy's.

Let's look at some Cooper Flagg highlights. They got a chance. So Flagg finished the game 18.7 rebounds, five assists, three steals, and 30 minutes of action. Obviously wasn't a super worthy opponent, but he did provide some highlights in the game. He was six for 15, though, from the field in his first official college game. What you got?

You know, just some light work, light work. Like I said, 18.7 rebounds, five assists, three steals in 30 minutes. So the Jazz are currently tied for the worst record in the league with the Milwaukee Bucks, with many considering Utah to be an ideal location for Flag to start his NBA career. Why? Makes sense.

You going to say why? Ideal weather, climate, Park City, Park City nearby. Is he from there? He's from Maine. He's from Maine. Okay. Same. Taking on, took on his home last Mac to drop the 18 piece,

but is Cooper Flag worth tanking for? I don't believe in tanking so he's a really good basketball player so if you don't do it don't win as many games as you should yeah I don't get a chance to be in the cool life we've said I. Oh, we already know Frozen Avalos will be in play. It's not like a damn superstar like that in Utah. You're just like... I guess. It's still Utah. I don't know.

That's how I feel about it. Musty air in Salt Lake City. It's like... I gotta... I gotta watch some more games. He had 18, but he struggled. Six or 15. Oh, he struggled?

Six or 15? What kind of shots were you taking? Against Maine? Against Maine. What kind of shots were you taking? Not good. Not at all. What kind of shots were you taking?

His homeland, though, Gil. His homeland. He was supposed to have 40. It's Maine. You have what you had in high school. What kind of shots was he taking on those 15 shots? From them highlights, they look kind of hard. I don't know.

What kind of shots was he taking? I don't know. I didn't watch. I don't know. I'm just saying. Mid-range, trying to get past people. Big couple threes. 0 for 5 threes.

It's me. I get it, but it's still the same looks, though. I don't care for who you're playing. Like that drive and dunk was supposed to be all night And you you hide your freshman first game This you playing main Like as the you're supposed to be the number one big and it's Duke what my question is, why is Duke playing Maine? Can I? What do you mean?

No, it's the two. They all play those weak ass teams. So what happened to the Gilbert Arena start process? So I have a question for you. Uh-oh. What happened to the Gilbert Arena start process of the fact that he got 15 shots up

as a freshman, first game? No, I get it, but there's another freshman that played well. But he got 15 up, though. So where are you, so where is that Gilbert for praising people for shooting the ball a lot cool, but you didn't say that

No, I didn't say he's like you didn't say that. I'm just saying you but everything has been negative though But you try to point out the I know I said I gotta watch more games because I 15 shots up because the teams he's played So far I mean the minutes are not even d1 30 minutes So I'm talking about con I think new for whatever his name is shot up 22 points, Noop or whatever his name is. You got a shot up every two minutes. 22 points in the game. Yeah, so I'm like. You got a shot up every two minutes. Like he played against ASU.

He struggled. But he got a shot up every two minutes. That's what I'm saying. He played against ASU. He struggled. A real D1 team. The other game he looked great in, it was a D2 team. So that's why I said I got to watch more games if I'm going to tank for it.

Because right now I. You're not going to tank for him just because he's games if I'm gonna tank for it because right now I I'm not gonna take form just cuz he's 19. I'm not even 19. What I'm saying is I'm not impressed What do you do you have to be in prejudice? It's age should be just enough right? No, no, no There's some there's some there's some other kids that's moving. There's moving. What's the other kid from is it Rutgers? No Bailey, yeah He's Bailey right so there's some there's some kids I'm looking so like he is the favorite the number one No, Bailey. Yeah. Ace Bailey. Ace Bailey. Right? So there's some kids I'm looking. So, like, he is the favorite, the number one.

No, he's really good, Gil. He's the number one, but I got to see him. He's going to throw your whole season away. No, he's really good. No, no, he is. But if you're Utah, from the marketing standpoint... I didn't really get the judgment in high school because it was the USA team.

His team was the USA team compared to everybody else. So they just blew everybody out. So I really can't evaluate them like that. Well, I saw him play before the USA team in Dallas. He's OD. Where? Against who? They were playing against Strive for Greatness.

He was on his main team? I mean, yeah, I guess if you want him... He was on his main team. So it was 15U? It was 16U. Whatever it was at the time, he was playing... Flag is not better than marketing right now. He was playing at the highest level at the age he was playing.

Whatever age he was, and he dominated the game. So I'm just saying. Marketing is growing. I saw everything I need to see in one game. So I'm just saying. Marking is growing. I saw everything I need to see in one game. Yeah, that's what I said. I wouldn't. Everything I've seen, because even when we were, even last year, last year, he didn't play 17s.

He played 16s. Right? So he never actually played. He played 16s. So I can see the skill level. I just got to see what it looks like. I got to wait until he starts playing real teams so I can see like the skill level. I just got to see what it looks like and I'm like I Just wait I gotta wait till he starts playing like real team so I can just see like I know zones

Zones and all of that gonna kill I just want to see if you can get to his shots Like him even like him boozer although I just want to see like what they look like when they're playing against dudes their size obviously buddy him so this is what I believe him going and had he not went to do great this it could have been a a Numbers wise a Freshman year like Michael Beasley I said that, I would prefer that be easy year with Kevin Durant. And or Kevin Durant. He's that good. Like, I believe he's that good right now, that he could have went somewhere and put up those numbers.

You know why he didn't? Just because he wanted to go to Duke. Played it safe. Played it safe? Duke is the safest bet for any recruit that's good, top five, top three, that's being questioned on whether you're ready to compete with the other guys in your class all the time. You go to Duke. They're a Kentucky, too.

Yeah. Because you don't. Kentucky. You got backup. Used to be Kentucky. Now it's going to be Arkansas. It used to be UConn, too. Now it's going to be Arkansas.

Now it's going to be Arkansas for real? Yeah, they are good. You're safe. You're safe. You don't got to. Yeah, they're safe you say you don't gotta yeah, they do have my goal you are over perform that bitch Tatum you look at all the Duke guys that went one day, but they were but they were balling though Like you can see like go back and watch Zion He was I I had highlights. Yeah, he wasn't balling like that. He had he struggled to He struggled in big games too. He struggled. But he had highlights

that make you look at it like, yo, he's out there doing that. But is it really safe? Because when you go to Duke, there's still an expectation to win. Okay, that's how safe it is. But when you go to another school that no one expects to win, but you hoop in, people are like, oh great, he got numbers. Kyrie played two games. But when you go to another school that no one expects to win, but you hoop in, people are like, oh, great, he got numbers.

Kyrie played two games. But when you go to Duke, there's a winning expectation. But if you come in with the hype and you go to college and you average 25 and 12, you didn't lose anything by not going to Duke. Nothing. Game. Yeah. Because you would have never done that.

So that's what I'm saying. So why is Duke the safe? Because it's the Duke. Regardless of what I do you would have never done that. All right, so that's what I'm saying. So why is Duke the safe? Because it's the Duke. Regardless of what I do. Regardless of what I do. If you go put up numbers at Duke and you lose a lot of games, people are going to be like. You're going to get drafted. You're going to get drafted, obviously.

How many games? I have a question for you. How many games did Kyrie Irving play? Two. Yeah, not a lot. And what pick was he? Damn near. One.

And he came in as the number one high school player. And he came in. But that one high school arrest and he came That's why he picked do doesn't matter but I feel like the Played 11 games to do okay. What is what is no what is one? Okay? What is what is What like for him to like, okay, he's definitely number one What does that look like just being that Duke itself for him to like, okay, he's definitely number one. What does that look like just being that Duke itself for him? Saying that you are the number one? If he averaged like 15 and 8, that's fine. That's fine. Yeah, you gotta win.

If he anything lower than that, nah, 15 and 8 is cool for him, but it's still under par. Make it to the tournament and lose. Make it to the tournament losing the first round nobody got nobody no no no what i'm saying is if he won't be the number one let's say if you're the number let's say you're the number one if you're the number one pick and you average 15 right with duke and then you got the bailey kid at ruggers averaging damn near 25 they're picking he picking him first you think he's fucking cool it depends who gets the pick right let's just say you talk all depends on who gets the pit because

if he's averaging so he's not a so he's not a pick that and whoever gets it this thing I just you can't because what if like I'd let you know like when Zion's come in don't give fuck yeah we don't care whose we don't care what his numbers are okay so don't care what his number if you're going on that I think he is like that I think I like that nice like that, though. Alright, well, that's what I said. I just want to, I gotta, I gotta, it's just every time I see him, I miss it.

I heard this. I heard in high school he was playing down. I said he didn't play 17. And that he looked good when he played down. Like down in age? I don't know how accurate that is, but that's what I was thinking.

I saw him play in person one time in Vegas during the season. Like 13? 13. There's some age questions. You could tell how talented he was. No, but what I'm saying is like. He looked bored. Yeah.

That's how it gets. Bobo was like. Like Koa P that's in his class. No. They played 17s. No, he played 16s So is he young so is Cooper like young? Any reclass or one board in high school? when I said I saw Cooper flag play when I was in Vegas for in season and I was like

It was just one game Cooper look bored when he was out there. He just looked bored out there. It was like a weird... That's why I said it's so hard. But it was a weird environment. It's just so hard. It's so hard to evaluate him

at a certain level because if one, he's bigger than everyone, right? So you have to take that so it becomes boring. That's why I said I got to see one team. I dig it. You have to compare him to Apollo. I definitely want to see more, but I think he can play. You have to compare him to Apollo. Right now. So like it becomes boring. That's what I say. Like I got it

I definitely see more but I have to compare him Apollo right now Paulo Banchero when he was at Duke They have the same sure was it they are the same guys How did Apollo have more? He was nice at do do probably was nice at Duke. I think he averaged 19, 18, 19. He can get there. Got to Final Four. Yeah, and he took them there. He took them. Yeah.

He's good, man. I was just wondering, like, for someone that's the number one and he's been number one, him going to Duke, what does he need to be to keep that? 15-8, like you said. Or just do some shit that just makes them just look... Highlight. That's what I'm saying. Like, if they're zoning them up all the time...

Don't die red. Just show you haven't died red. Yeah, just show me. I'm not a national champion. Like, taking them to the tournament. Just show some dunking. Finals of the ACC. Shoot the three balls.

Yeah. Get an ACC tournament. Shoot a good number from three. At the next level, he's like Paulo, 3-4 type? Yeah. Those types of... Absolutely. Yeah, so it'd be hard

to really stand out at Duke with his... Yeah, because they got good players, all good players around. That's how it was in the ACC. Like, if you was good, you went to the ACC,

you risking being the only guy on your team that's going to be... It's always somebody else that's good. I think Will Solomon was the only guy. He went to Clemson. You go to Clemson, you can

get off until they started recruiting better players and then it's tough. So Duke is always a safe place because they've got the number one recruits. You ain't got to worry about doing nothing. And if y'all lose, it's really not on y'all. It's on Coach K. Back then it was on Coach K but you lost.

You got to coach the Stars. Yeah, you got to coach the Stars. But if I'm him and Utah is the number one pick, I need the Jason Tatum as your... I don't know if I want to be the number one pick. Mm. Because you don't want to go to Utah? Who could have the... What are the top picks?

What I'm saying is that I don't want to be... If I'm supposed to be the next thing, I don't know if I want to be in Utah as my brand. Good for your brand. You don't even think that favors him for his mistakes? If he's the time frame, timetable. Remember Gordon, Gordon Hayward?

I don't... Right now it's Jazz, Jazz Buck, Sixers, or the three bottle feeders. around it? I see it. No, no, no, I know. Say it, say it.

No, no, no, no, no. Say it. They don't know what you're going to say. It's a puppy party. It's all white. I get it. It's all white.

No, no, Ruben. Is it Ruben? Yes. Both. All white party? I get it. It's an all white adventure. no Ruben the Ruby both all white all white party It will benefit him Financially in a lot of ways to be in Utah to be a very very good

American born white basketball mean you talk from Maine No, there's gonna be a star in Utah finally it probably will be I'm missing Since I'm gonna be right. I want to be white in Boston John I'm just said I want to be white in a big white market. I'm with you, but you don't think that's a big white market Not as you got a lot of money out there as big as Boston. Boston is a city I'm saying yeah, if they have what is your fortune enough to get the number one pick if the Utah just a one peak I'm just Wouldn't be bad wouldn't be a bad thing for neither We played listen, I mean it did pump up board and it is No, we're speaking from experience. I'm speaking of playing in Utah.

Gordon Hayward. I feel like Boston got more people than the whole state. Looking in the stands and just a lot of people that look like me in the stands in Utah. Let's stay in college real quick. Look it up. Stay in college real quick. Got to talk about an unfortunate event that happened on Monday. Sixth-ranked Gonzaga opened their season with a 38-point win over eighth-ranked Baylor.

Don't kill that poor little boy. Largest block win any team has earned over a top-point win over eighth-ranked Baylor. Don't kill that poor little boy. Largest blowout win any team has earned over a top-ten opponent in the history of the AP poll. Why would they do that? Gonzaga had the game comfortably secured with a few minutes remaining. Mark Few subbed to his son, redshirt junior Joe Few, and then this happened. Watch your head. See, Joe been around the game long enough where he should have got his little ass out the way.

After Gonzaga's turnover. Few tried to jump with the freshman star, Vijay Edgecombe, for some reason. Proceeded to get his life dunked all over. He didn't have a smile on his face. Oh, he's just smiling. He didn't have a smile on his face. Oh my goodness gracious. Like, what was he?

He wanted to have fun. That's not fun. Yeah, that was fun. You see him smiling Right again, I know the brown would never put brownie in that situation That's neither here nor there but thoughts and prayers with the few family at this time I just know someone wasn't watching layup lines Someone wasn't watching layup like. Someone wasn't watching layup lines. Because this is a freshman from the Bahamas who's known for jumping over people.

That means you're going to see all of that. All of it. In the layup line. When the crowd was saying, ooh, everybody know to do this, right? Not you, huh? You're a wuss. So when you seen that dark just coming down the lane. Move.

He's a coach's son. That's the fucked up part about it. He's been to USA practices. He's a junior. He's not a freshman. Oh, damn. He didn't seen a lot of basketball to know to get his ass out of the way so therefore

Good for him. No that we got an admin business. What did we? You said it but you that is the coaches son. Yes, which means Yo ass supposed to either take a charge. Yes be in the right position All of the board jump or get you that is your job as a coach your son to either take a charge, be in the right position, or jump. That is your job as a coach's son. One of the easy jump over you. God damn it. Jump is like seven on the list.

You don't have the last thing on the list of what a coach's son to do in that moment. And you see how he jump, right? What I'm saying is he's not allowed to do what we would have did run through the play Run through it try to go for the steal like I ain't in there you you were supposed to be in that picture God damn it 1000% just for being a son Damn, Lisa had a smile on his face. Hey, that's the best thing that ever happened him in college basketball right now

That was me the reason I don't play no more This picture right here. This is how I went into insurance, baby. So, picture right here. Yeah, that's like when Brandon Knight got dunked on. Huh? Mm-hmm. At least they didn't call a foul. Why'd he jump?

At least they didn't call a foul. That would have been nasty. He would have stood over him a lot longer. Probably just a bad one of those. It would have been an end one and play stops. See the refs did him a lot. Probably bad just a bad one of those would have been anyone that play stops See the refs did him a favor by not calling. Yeah. Yeah, it did him a favor by not stopping the game Replay Kings ransom down the Kings ransom as a ref? Yeah, I'm gonna call him. And then, and then...

I know it's gonna be on TV. I know it's gonna be on TV. I gotta get my shine, too. Teddy Valentine. Do the dance! Pop! They tapped over that ball. Those refs are in the pros.

Those refs are in the pros. So, turn around. What's your number? Show them. And then you got to point. Oh, yeah. Might have things. I might get fined. Got to flip them over.

Get over. Let me see that number. Yeah. Amen number. Well, speaking of people getting dunked on, we got to talk about some old shit that happened last week we didn't address. Situation that went down during the Nuggets-Wolves game this past Friday. Wanted to get all y'all on the couch before we convened to talk about it.

You dunked on Rudy. Oh, Rudy. Involving Christian Brown, Rudy Gobert. We're getting it right here. Christian Brown, no stranger to catching Rudy Gobert's slip. Yeah, Russ. After Duggan plays Brown caught Gobert again Friday night. Obviously, Gobert took issue with Brown's celebration.

Minor melee ensuing. Things took a turn with Russell Westbrook. Yeah, four. Get him, Brody. Yeah, four. Westbrook pulled up to action. Gobert got a little too nervous at the sight of the future Hall of Famer running up on him.

He learning. He learning. Like, remember, he was boxing. Who? Rudy Goldberg. Oh, the fight? Yeah, he was boxing. So this is like, you know, when you get little gloves in and... You see what happened when he turned around, though.

Yeah, yeah, that was real action. Oh, shit! Oh, yeah. Who slowed down? Huh? Who slowed down? You see what happened when he turned around though. Yeah, that was real Who's slow down Ain't see you coming but I see you now slow your ass down World and a bear coming I know it looks it looks up on the camera World and take a ride in a bear coming You know, I'm trying to yell at a squirrel the motherfucking bear behind you you told shit. Yeah, like Motherfucking dude. Oh, is it can we see that video one more time? Please Paulo? Come on

Watch out watch out watch out. You know who? Watch out, boy! Ah! You know what this look like? Oh, shit. You know what? He jumped. I just seen some people react the same way. Brody, you're so close. I just seen a video of some people reacting the same way. Oh, being scared, right? I got blue.

Yo, the first angle is the best. You got to show the angle from behind. That's the best. Listen, the flinch is from behind is the perfect angle. We play it, please. Hold on, one more time for the visually impaired. This angle is the best shit going. Watch this.

Watch it. Oh, shit. He said, oh, shit. It's just like when the zombies came out. Oh, hell yeah. Oh, shit. Oh, we did see that. Oh, shit. What's the difference between the zombies came out. Oh, hell yeah. Oh, shit. We did see that. Oh, shit.

What's the difference between the zombies coming out and this? Nothing. When you don't see it and you see it coming, you go, oh. Yeah. Oh, I see it now. Exactly. I know we told them that they was- Now go sit down.

He didn't know black people was on a course deal. Now go sit down. He was smart. Now go sit down. Rudy was smart. Hey, everybody get in there and you didn't see it. Uh-oh, I didn't even see you. You know what you said? You said know, just a you see you back there

He's like I see you now, though So, you know Rudy defending himself man. Oh, he needs a baby step just a man just baby step He took one step for everybody five steps back in the same moment once once you Know No, no, no remember last time Right. I got mine right. I hooked him tried to throw him. He was a little stronger than I thought but I did it Yeah, and he came oh shit. Wait, hold up. Wait, I wasn't practicing this part yet. I got this part right

Next summer I'm gonna do this and get ready for you next summer this summer I only learned the first part the first part was whoa back up. I wasn't ready for a second person I was not ready for a second Dream on did this see that was what happened last time. And that's why he turned away. He's like, oh, I see you now. See? Because Draymond surprised me. Okay, so that isn't a reaction.

Draymond got me out of nowhere. That's what fucked me up. I'm ready now. And then he was like, all right, I'm ready for this. I'm ready now. That wasn't a reaction. No, because Draymond

played a film again and then Draymond got him from behind. The reaction was like, I'm ready for this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Watch out. Watch out, Clay. Watch out. Oh, shit, Draymond. He was behind. The reaction was like, I'm ready for you. Look, look, look. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Watch out. Watch out, Klay.

Watch out. Oh, shit. He was ready. He barely moved. He barely moved. What's up? Rewind this. What's up?

We're going to do it in slow motion. Watch out, Klay. We got to think about Golden State. And we play side to side. We're going to take it. Watch out. Hey, hold on. Zapruder.

Watch out. Hold on. Go, please. Klay. Watch out, Klay. Right. Subruder. Watch out. Hold on. Go, please. Clay. Watch out, Clay. Right? And then Draymond. So, stop it right now.

Oh, shit, Draymond. Look, he's hit. Listen, in all actuality, if this is Draymond running up on him, he's getting his ass whooped. And that's what he was... In this moment right now, he ain't ready to defend himself or anything. Oh, nobody. Oh, nobody would be. It's a better to get blindsided at this point. No. And you look at it. I'm not. And what happens? So what's up? Where did I go? I didn't take no step. Look where I'm at. Look where your hands at. And I turned and I said, what's up? Look where your hands at. Look where you go. Look where you go. What's up? Look where your hands at.

Look where you go. What's up? I'm right here. No, no, no, no, no. If Russell Westbrook would have actually threw a punch, he's knocked out. He's not even... Anybody throws a punch. If you get sucker punch... You see him coming. No, this ain't no sucker punch.

Look, there's a sucker punch. If you get sucker punched. You see him coming. No, this ain't no sucker punch. This ain't a sucker punch. Look. There's nobody. Right now. Even if he throws it. Play it again. Look at the. Don't look at me.

Look up there. Don't look at me. Look up there. Go. Play it. Hollow. Slow. Slow.

Go back. Right now. He sees him right now. Go back. Go back. Go back. Stop. Stop.

Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Clip for clip. Frame for frame. Go ahead. You must have lost.

Frame for frame. Everybody sucker punched you. All right. Ain't nobody never punched me. Period. Watch. Stop. Clip for clip. Frame for frame. Go ahead. You must have lost a lot of fights and everybody sucker punched you. All right. Ain't nobody never punched me, period. Look, watch. Turn in. Not yet. Russell Westbrook ain't in it.

Frame for frame. He can't see nothing right now. No, Westbrook is not there. Rules, man. Now, hit him now. Stop. I'll see you. Listen.

Listen. And he's still not in the frame. Listen. Does he see him? This would be if he sees Russell right here at this point Oh, and he's swinging. He's not swinging. Okay Is Russell gonna swing the night of the clock? So tell me at what people don't keep what point is he gonna swing? Come on get in the frame. Oh, no, keep on keep on that's a referee

Yep, now I got time to put my hands up, but you don't know You don't if I was there with Teresa don't buy what's there? But I see who's coming at me right now Russell Westbrook swings right now. He's Rudy don't even put his hands up yet cuz he not scared of his no Because he don't know he ain't he ain't practiced that part yet. It's just a training. He ain't practiced that party He didn't practice getting choked out from the back cuz he didn't see him. He didn't see him When Draymond choked him he didn't see Draymond coming But he put his hands up. He didn't see him coming. He got him from the back. Once he got choked he said Hallelujah

Right here is what I'm saying. I appreciate his training right now ain't offense right now. I appreciate it, right? All I'm saying is I'm with you. All I'm saying is I appreciate it, right? All he needs to do is this he gonna keep it up with him Hey his trainer gonna get him this you gonna choke him here. You're gonna look here. You're gonna choke me You're gonna look here. That's the next that's the summer This summer right now he just getting it like the fair face do one of those that's it Like the fair phase, huh? No, no, he's just getting to choke and do one of those. That's it. It's the choking celebration. I don't like the fair fades, huh?

No, no, it's choking celebration right now. Fair fades. That's getting defucked out. No, this is choking celebration. If Russ throws a right hook, knocks him defucked out. Russ needs to chill out. This ain't got nothing to do with you, Russ. Sit down. Oh, shit.

What I'm saying is right now, this is just he's being trained. Choke and celebrate. It's way worse than slow-mo. Way worse than slow-mo. No, but I'm what I'm saying is right now. This is just he's being trained choke Two on one What did I do is ready what did I just do with one of them? Oh one of them? What I do That's one of them? What? What did I do? What did I do? Yeah, you told me. Yeah, I'm getting out of here. Yeah. Hey, that's one. You, I wasn't ready for that. I got another one coming at me.

I got another one coming at me. That's session two. Session two. That was just like, yeah. If I'm him, I'm like, yo, just let me get to the summer. Next summer, I'm going to be able to defend myself here and then get you. And then if there's a third, that's the following summer. The day Rudy Gobert puts a someone in the face.

I ain't going to lie. You got to jump me, you a hoe. Yeah, he scared me. I'm by myself. I'm by myself, man. And you saw his reaction. I'm by myself, man. Your reaction.

I'm by myself. Go get your homeboys. That's part two. Hey, always have your homeboys with you. Just know that. Have your homeboys with you. White belt is starting, right? White belt? I have no idea. But it White belt is starting, right? White belt?

I have no idea. But it's white and brown, right? I have no idea. Whatever belt is number two, that's what he going to be working on this summer. That's it? You can't put him in green and blue yet? Not yet. Okay, wait.

Watch out. Westbrook, I'm not there yet. Watch out. Okay, Gale. White belt, gold belt, green belt, purple belt, blue belt, red belt, brown belt. Let me tell you this. Brown belt is almost black, so no. Let's not confuse Rudy Gobert ever with no killer.

Let's not confuse no NBA player with no killer. Any of them. When we're speaking of what we're talking about in this manner. Any of them, even in this manner. Any of them. When we're speaking of what we're talking about in this manner. Any of them, even in this manner. Okay. Any of them. So, therefore, he can practice all the shit that he wants to. Right, like, ultimately, what are we going to do?

If he's ever in these situations, you're going to see his honest-to-God reaction in that moment. I know, but he... Your first reaction in that moment is what... What'd you say to you about me yesterday? You too. Yeah, what y'all say about yesterday? We ain't expecting For me to hit you hard ain't no. Yeah, we know we know it's baked to everybody to do what you would do But exactly yeah, so what we talking about that no matter how much he trains no no But he's not gonna do it. No, no, no, but he's not going to do what Kian did. His first reaction is going to be the clean.

Yeah, he's not going to do that. He's not going to do what he did. He can do all the training he want, man. His brain, listen, is going to go to his first net, yo. And instinct is, he did with his first. He didn't do this when he saw Russ running at him. Oh, shit. Do you think my instinct?

What's happening? What was his instinct? He jumped, motherfucker. So 100% of people's response to being attacked is going to be... It's going to be like this? But he didn't do that. I'm asking. No. I'm asking.

No. Because what you're saying is his response to that... He shouldn't have responded that way. He should respond in a different way No, he's right. So it's he a punk he a pussy because he didn't respond the way you responded. No So why does he have to be anything but gonna respond? Yeah, what's wrong with that in that moment? What's wrong? Okay, cuz it's not good enough in that ball I'm gonna get you not good. So who should he have responded like Right here. I'm fine with his response. No, I'm asking I'm just I'm Rudy go

Saying is not good enough. No, I'm saying it's fine. You are You are Is fine, yes, yes, yes You are, but they're not. Because I know how much money he spent. You are, you are, but I'm saying them. Level one. He was fine. But he's white. He's fine. He's fine? Yes. Yes. Yes.

We don't want him fighting. He's been himself. I don't want players fighting each other. He's not graduating yet. If I'm him, if I'm telling you. He's being himself. Y'all clipping? Rudy Goldberg.

He's being himself. Rudy Goldberg. Clip this clip. If I'm you, I would have flinched at Russell Westbrook because you know it's Russell Westbrook. He has a brand, and he's a family man, so you know he won't be throwing punches, okay? There's a lot of other stars out there. Jason Tatum won't be doing that.

Jaden Brown won't be doing that. Giannis Triggy. Somebody's running at you with their hands about to punch you. You don't think everybody's going to respond? No, Kevin Durant. Russ's hands wasn't up. Kevin Durant ain't going to do nothing. Yeah, Russ. Russ's hands wasn't up.

Booker's not going to do nothing. So if you decide to go like this, they going to. Yo, let's talk about all the factors. That's too much money for them. That's too much star power to be sitting there trying to throw punches. So he should have known when he see Russ. Once he see Russ, aw, then you ain't doing nothing.

That's exactly what he did. You ain't doing nothing. That's what he did. You ain't doing nothing. That's what he did. He turned and was like, man, I ain't got to put my hands up for you, man. What's up, bro? I would have got real big.

This Russell, I would have got real big. I know Russell Brand. He's Jordan Brand. Yes. You ain't swinging, sir. I would have been. The finch would have came out. Because swinging sir. I would have I would have bit the Finch would have came out his guess I'll smack You better back up

Let you let you right out. I know I know He ain't losing his he ain't losing his Jordan brand over me. Let me feel you. I'm going to peel you. I'm going to peel you. There's just certain people, you know. That man didn't run up on one of them with his hands up, shot. That man's hands was down. That man just reacted how he going to react. No matter how y'all spin it, it ain't going to change it for me. That New York team that had that, all of them runs.

They don't care about brands, none of them. Right? Jared, Jeffries, all of them, now they coming. I will let through, you'll let through. And on that note, let's move on to Mostly Fans. Presented by Underdog. If you enjoyed the show as much as we have, download the app, use promo code Gil,

get up to $1,000 in bonus cash, plus a special pickle. Y'all are unbelievable, man. Put this on the Emmy reel, please. So, our only question for today, video question, underdog user Zedarian. What's going on, guys? Quick question. Should the NBA bring back hand-checking to improve defense, or do we continue to sacrifice the defense for the game being more entertaining? What are you guys thinking?

So, first of all, give Z'Darrius Hunter a dollar a second. I always appreciate it when y'all have the show on in the background. Help us get those numbers going. Pull up every video. Keep refreshing after about three minutes. Let me see hand-check.

Listen, hand-check is still in below the free throw line. Yeah, yeah. So, it's still in below the free throw line. Yeah, yeah. So it's still in the lead. Don't let them tell you otherwise. Okay, the reason the hand check is not a pointless thing. The problem is it became very dangerous. And the reason is this.

If you're in front of me and you're facing forward, I literally can't put my hand on your belly button. Right, right, right. So the hand check doesn't work there anyway. I have to be sideways for you to get to grabbing me. So what ends up happening is these guards today, kind of like in the mid-90s, they're coming downhill. So you're talking about Ja Morant, all these guys coming downhill. What ends up happening, if I'm allowed to keep my hand on you.

What I'm going to do? Run them right into the bigs, right? If you got somebody like Joel Embiid or you got Steven Adams down there, he's going to turn into a wall and all you're going to do is just push him right into Steven Adams. So that's what end up happening.

It end up happening as these guys are taken off from the three-point line and these guys are just pushing them right into Steven Adams. So that's what ended up, that's what ended up happening. It ended up happening as these guys are taken off from the three-point line, and these guys are just pushing them right into the big man. And it became very dangerous. That's the only reason it's off. Shit, the rule they need to look at is all these damn illegal screens. Yeah. Oh my God. I think the pair with that, the

illegal screens and the drop defense makes it nasty. Because if you were able to hand check over the screen, right? I could control him over. You can't. But you can. But below the free throw line. It depends on who the guard is.

Like if you look at Drew Holliday, he still hand checks. Oh. But he does it the way we know how to do it, which is on and off. No, no. Sometimes he'll just hold it and just go across because he's... But it's players like that though, like they're going to get... Yeah, he doesn't get screened because if they move, they're going to get an illegal screen. He knows how to move. But these guys

who are not hand-checking, that's how they're getting... They get hit. They're getting hit by these illegal screens because they're not playing aggressive defense. Because you can't touch the guy coming off the screen. Exactly. They don't know how. It's true. We used to call it get into the ball on the side. You got to get into the ball, ride it over the top of the screen. They don't even do. It's true. We used to call it get into the ball on the side. Got to get into the ball, ride it over the top of the screen. They don't even do that no more.

Right. And that's why they get away with so many illegal screens. No, because we used to have the show, right? Right over the screen, show, get under, and I'm back in front. They don't do that at all. All drop. All drop. Or switch. Here, look at it like this The hand the hand check didn't stop players like Isaiah Thomas Right, Lou. I was even Johnson. Oh, okay. Right Tim Hardaway, right the scoring guards. It didn't stop them now this NBA has more of those and

less John Stockton types. For sure. Right? So back then, if you look at the guards, the best two guards that kind of scored was Isaiah Thomas and then Magic. Yep. Right? The handshake didn't stop them from getting anywhere they wanted to. Now, 28 of those guys are in the league today.

So, you know, when people talk about like bring it back it's like it didn't stop the guys who scored now they're just more scores today yeah that's all like I bring back defense man is this needed it's needed but it's needed to make the office better. It's needed to make the offense better. What I'm saying is, what part of it are you bringing? Like, what can you do? What can you do in a rule book that's actually going to help you? Restrict movement. No.

What does that mean? It means that the driving lanes for you to create... Yo, y'all, hold on. The driving lanes for you to create... Hold on, let me help y'all out with this real quick. Let me just put it in perspective, right? What the defensive thing is and where it can be helped. Just a small amount.

How many years y'all have to stay in school? Four. Three, technically. And when y'all get to the W, y'all are, most of y'all are pretty good at defense. Yeah. Y'all know how to play team defense. Y'all rely on defense.

Yeah. Right? Mm-hmm. Y'all understand these defensive concepts, right? They spent more time doing it, right? Because they have to. They have to be in school longer learning these things Guys coming in at 19 you had eight months at it. Mm-hmm

Team concept learning coming from overseas You learn and playing basketball over there since 13. It's different. Yeah, right so you go dares are built on fundamentals of Team defense stand in front of the ball, passing lanes, all of those things, right? All the basics. So learning those things because you learn in college and you're drilling this shit daily.

You're doing this shit every day for four years. Most of them took red shirt freshman year. They're still doing this shit. They're still doing it for four years, right? Either way it go, right? So you're getting, like when I came they're still doing it for four years, right? Either way it go, right? So you're getting, like when I came, I did this shit

for four years, bro. And Bob Huggins, it wasn't ask. It was demanded that we play good on the ball defense first and foremost. Pull your feet.

Ain't no just getting by you straight line drives. He cussing you out and taking you out. Sell yourself out. With them, they get straight line. It's a problem.

With us, how many straight line drives in NBA? Guys that ain't did shit just. Per game. It's a problem yep with us how many straight line drives in nba guys ain't dead shit just per game there's a lot of that shit right so when you learned foot positioning and you working on this shit daily and they asked of you when it's demanded every single day cook you'll get better at i ain't saying you're gonna be a master and i ain't saying you're gonna be the best defender but you get better at it. I ain't saying you're going to be a master, and I ain't saying you're going to be the best defender, but you get better at it, right? You can benefit from doing this shit daily.

Nobody, when you get to the NBA, nobody's working on these things because you're too busy working on your other side of it, which you need. We get it, but that part of it comes before you get to the NBA. When you get to the NBA, it's more of concepts, game planning,

trying to put you in the right position to be successful. Those things never teach you how to stay in front of the fucking ball. Ever. That takes repetition. That takes repetition. In college? But college is more, see, college is more team defense. But we still working. No, I hear you.

Individual defense. I hear you, but we doing close. One-on-one and we in closeouts. We doing closeouts. We doing one-on-one closeouts. Two-on-two closeouts. Three-on-three closeouts. We doing, hey, you got to share.

You doing it daily, right? So you learning those things. Don't let the ball get in the paint drills. Yeah, don't let it swing. Motherfuckers don't box out. None of that. Box out drills. They had to box out drills. So it's a lot of shit that they don't do that they

haven't learned how to be good at. Yeah. Right? Fundamentals is out of the game. When you got a lot of these dudes going to school and you know they only go beat up for eight months, nine months at, whatever it's eight months, man, at tops when you're in college. You don't have the time to really get unless you came in with it you don't have that time to learn it what's the kid Mitchell did um Davion Mitchell with the Kings he went to Baylor for a few years, like, fucking animal on the ball.

Animal. Right? For sure. Gary Payton. Killer. The kid that played for Huggs. Alvarado? No, no, no, no, no, no.

Oh, the, is he bald? Yes. Yes, the fuck, I'm drawing a blank. Damn animal on the ball. Played for Huggs for four years at West Virginia. Dang, what is his name? I know exactly who you're talking about. But my point is, it can be done now still.

But I understand what a game is. Look, I'm just rambling right now. I'm not rambling, but it's just... You can learn a lot from spending more time at that. No, I get it. Because Aguil's point is the defense, the emphasis of the defense, the emphasis of the defense compared

to the offense. People making more of it. You want to lean toward the offense because this is where we are with the new generation. But to go against your point, you need the defense to make the offense more powerful. We're not forcing them to counter. We're not forcing them to do other things.

Think about besides you guys' teams. Look at the guys that went to counter the problem. We're not forcing Besides like you guys know teams right? Okay, but look at the guy with the Villanova Right. Look at Jalen Brunson. Look at the Vincenzo. Look at Mikhail bridges. Look at them guys, right? Uh-huh Are they great at defense? They suck. They know the Back to big so they know how they would know how to it. No, Jalen Brunson competes on defense. 100%. They play defense. They're not great defenders. Matizzo competes on defense.

Mikael Bridges, he's a solid defender. Solid. They compete, right? I'm just saying they learn these things because they had to do those things to win national championships in college. They're right. So they took some of those concepts that they learned there. You just implement them at the highest level. Yep. In college. They're right. So they took some of those concepts that they learned there You just implement them at the highest level. Yep in college and When what you would you say you started dominating where you really is like this is you can't guard me

We can't guard me like you y'all can't do nothing with me. Oh, that was my senior year 11 you're doing your to how many people did you meet like you? Y'all can't do nothing with me. Oh, that was my senior year. You're junior year too? How many people did you meet like you? Not too many people like me. It was athletic and deal with it. But that's what I'm saying. So sometimes you can be a great college defender, and then you get to the NBA. Remember, the NBA is all the apexes of the apexes.

You know what I mean? So me doing the closeout drill in college. But it's not about being a great defender in the NBA though. It's not about being great. It's about knowing the basic fundamentals of defense in the NBA. Not being a great defender in the NBA, but knowing that it's not a lot of great. But in college, it's more of concepts. Even NBA is concepts but as as

as fast as as I can get to a spot you're at that spot fast so the national question right like ours is more speed than anything how'all practices at Arizona? Good. I mean, like, no, as far as, like, were they hard practices? Were they intense practices, right? Everything was fast, now good, right? Yep. So it's the same, like, just imagine if guys had that sense of urgency that y'all, right?

But see, look, I'm guarding. Because it was demanded, though, right? But see, look, since that's what, like, because it was demanded, though, right? But see, I was considered a defensive player. Yeah. So I'm guarding Jason Gardner, so for me... Yeah, you're guarding a really good guy. I had to guard Jason Gardner, right? He's really good.

Yes. Right? That's not Allen Iverson. But he's really good at it. That's Mulberry. But then you adjust it to... So my little concepts on him right I shut down any house But you know how to move you yeah, that is a right you know

I don't know the angle to go to cut somebody off. You knew all those things because you have to do it garden Jason God because he's really good balling right he was aggressive. It's a bunch of learn those things every day So my point is his team structure making sure like I think ours the difference between College in the NBA on defense is college their second and third and fourth Attempts at it NBA I get by you he stops you I don't dig back Right, so I don't make the second and third effort. Absolutely.

That's the NBA's problem. The NBA don't do the second, third, fourth half. Absolutely. Right? And that is the real issue. It's not that. I'm just standing in front of the shade. It's the straight line, the no help.

All of it exists. So your point, absolutely. Like when Lucas started looking great on defense. Yeah. There was nothing different. We all was like, absolute. Like when Lucas started looking great on defense. Yeah. That was nothing different. We all was like, bullshit. What's happening is you stay in front of him, just make him do a second dribble.

Yeah. Okay, coach. Right? He's going to help you. Make sure you help his guy. Yeah. And that's what that was. That helped help me.

Rashad, quick, that's all your hand up. Last comment before we call it a day. But what you got to say? I think that, like, the coaches in the NBA, they have an expectation for players to come in, and I don't feel like I'm teaching you how to play defense. Oh, facts. You're supposed to know when you come in.

That's why the 19-year-old takes a lot longer than the 22-year-old because we have to teach him all these concepts that we, as professionals, are supposed to be yeah you know expert at you know it's called a professional that's why it's amateur sports right amateurism so be an amateur learn how to be a professional don't come to the pros as an amateur saying uh teach me right that's the backfall of the nba right now they're wasting years trying to teach guys how to be and have fundamentals that are not being taught

because they're not spending enough time in college. One year, like you said, eight months ain't enough to really know how to deny that side

and see how they're doing in the NBA and they're still doing it wrong because there's a bunch of guys doing it wrong. You don't have no examples except for like a Drew Holiday doing it right.

The guys who have spent years Perfecting it. What's so funny is I looked at I looked at Like let's say defensive players of the years or those great first-team all defensive players It kind of took them like four years before they figured out how to be dominant. So like the Gary Payton's You know like the Gary Paytons, you know, like the Kawhi. Like, it took, yeah, it took it like, you know, it takes.

Like, you got to really understand. There's more speed, but for the most part, those guys want to do it. Yeah, Ron Artes. Right, if we say James Harden, yo, play defense, right? You, you,

I don't need you to score 20 and 11. Just lock your man down. Yeah, challenge. He would be like I challenge this at right the motherfucker might have five points one assist But he will look like an a1 defender acts right. It's it's it's I'm here to score you here to play defense do your job. I do my goddamn job, right step is looking at like I average 30 Gary Payton you play the defense. Yeah, all right I'll try here and there but I get paid to put the ball in the basket you get paid to stop it from going Everybody look at do they own goddamn job clay you two-way so they expect you to do a little bit of both Draymond Do you?

Whatever you do to help us win. You smack smack kick the rev, kick the plate, do you. All right? It's working. And that's just... Just let me do my job, you do your goddamn job. And on that note, good place to stop today. Always enjoy spirited conversations here in Gil's arena. Appreciate all y'all. Lexi, great to have you back on the couch.

I fucked up. What happened? Uh-oh. Appreciate all y'all. Lexi, great to have you back on the couch. I fucked up. What happened? Uh-oh. Y'all got me. I know y'all probably already posted this shit earlier, but what happened? About what? Y'all was kiki-ing and laughing and shit.

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