Gil's Arena - The Los Angeles Lakers Have The BEST BIG 3 In The NBA!
Episode Date: November 26, 2025The Los Angeles Lakers Have The BEST BIG 3 In The NBA according to Gilbert Arenas as Gil & The Gil's Arena Crew react to the Lakers clinching their group in the NBA Cup with a big win over the Los Ang...eles Clippers and break down how Luka Doncic, LeBron James and Austin Reaves are all playing some of the best basketball of their careers to power one of the NBA's best teams. They then flip to the other side of the game to break down the Los Angeles Clippers who have lost 11 out of their last 13 games and debate if Kawhi Leonard, James Harden and the decaying Clippers need to push the panic button as they sink to the bottom of the NBA Standings without their 1st Round Pick. Next, they react to Chris Paul announcing his retirement as the Point God decided to hang it up after 21 NBA Seasons and debate where the Clipper legend ranks amongst NBA point guards before reacting to Dwyane Wade's take on the NBA Goat debate, telling fans that LeBron James was the best player he ever saw play while Michael Jordan was the greatest player he watched. Finally, Mr.B takes us through his recent trip to Milwaukee to update us on the state of the Bucks organization as they have stumbled after the injury to Giannis Antetokounmpo before the Gil's Arena Crew reacts to LaMelo Ball asking for a trade from the Charlotte Hornets and discuss if the highlight reel point guard could use a change of scenery after a tumultous start to his career. PLEASE give us a Like and Subscribe!! Today's Gil's Arena Crew : Gilbert Arenas, Josiah Johnson, Brandon Jennings, Kenyon Martin, Rashad McCants & Swaggy P Gil's Arena premieres every Wednesday & Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. Sign up for Underdog HERE with promo code GIL and play $5 to get $100 in bonus funds or bonus entries https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gi... For a limited time, visit AuraFrames.com and get $45 off Aura’s best-selling Carver Matframes - named #1 by Wirecutter - at https://on.auraframes.com/ARENA. Promo Code ARENA Use our code for 10% off your next SeatGeek order*: https://seatgeek.onelink.me/RrnK/ARENA10 Sponsored by SeatGeek. *Restrictions apply. Max $20 discount SUBSCRIBE: / @thearena0 Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos! / discord Must be 18+ (19+ in AL, NE; 19+ in CO for some games; 21+ in AZ & MA) and present in a state where Underdog Fantasy operates. Terms apply. Concerned with your play? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit www.ncpgambling.org; NY: Call the 24/7 HOPEline at 1-877-8-HOPENY or Text HOPENY (467369) 2 Min Countdown 0:00:00 Show Start 0:01:58 Lakers Clinch NBA Cup Group With The League's Best Big 3 0:10:32 LeBron Gets Real On Working His Way Back Into The NBA 0:33:35 Lakers Have The Best BIG 3 In The NBA 0:37:31 Kris Dunn Goes At Luka 0:41:44 The Clippers Need To SMASH The Panic Button 0:45:05 Chris Paul Announces His Retirement 0:52:21 Mr. B Gives The Mood Of The Milwaukee Bucks 1:14:55 Is Doc Rivers To Blame For The Bucks Season 1:19:57 Jalen Suggs Runs At Drummond 1:50:21 MostlyFans 1:56:28 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Welcome back to Gills Arena, presented by Underdog.
Whoa, whoa!
Glorious Wednesday here in the arena, very festive.
Thanksgiving coming up soon.
How everybody feeling?
Good.
Good.
Good. I'll be thankful for.
The Lemon Daddy snake skin.
Oh, yeah.
I don't think.
I usually don't get third options, but, you know.
Well, debatable right now.
When I got it, he was the second, so.
Two B.
I know.
Potentially.
Right?
So you got the...
One C.
The turkey.
But this is Gills Arena presented by Underdog.
Whoa, whoop.
As always, we got the NBA and NBA 2K legend Gilbert Arena is here with us.
Rocking the turkey cap.
We got NBA champion of the world's swaggy pig.
Nick Young.
Representing tough crowd and card carrying.
card carrying country club member.
We have Mr. B. Branden Genix.
On this side of the couch,
we got the distinguished gentleman from Oak Cliff,
former number one pick,
Kenyon Martin in the building.
What was that, anyway?
Things going down at local Costco's, but...
Oh, yeah, I can't go to Costco no more.
I can go.
You can.
Well, we just better watch their mouth, that's all.
Yeah, that's all that.
No, man, they called my wife out of the name at Costco.
Nah, that's crazy.
Yeah, not at Costco.
I was millisecond away from being incarcerated on Thanksgiving.
So, glad you are here with us.
And last but not least, we have the man they call non-champion.
Not no more?
Just Laker Larry.
Laker Larry.
The man they call Laker Larry, you are back with the Purple and Gold.
Gold, NCAA champion of the world, Rashah McCants.
Clipper Daryl, Laker Laird.
I like Laker Larry more to Clipper Dilley.
Before we get the show started, it is Thanksgiving tomorrow.
So our very own, J.C., the Barber, is coming through
with some delicious Thanksgiving treats.
Yeah.
Those are new ones?
Take one.
Everybody pick one.
My hand, man.
Barber to the stars don't work.
If you need a lineup, tape, or fail,
I don't know how I feel about the red rag, though, J.C.
I'm just going to be honest.
Gobble, gobble, gobble.
No, no.
I don't know, sir.
What that is?
Gobble, gobble, he's...
No, thank you.
Always gay.
It has reframed.
You gotta do your neck like that.
Stop, bro.
Give up the neck.
I make a cookie.
Happy Thanksgiving to all who celebrate.
Thank you, J.C.
It's Asian turkeys out there?
They have turkey today.
Oh.
Oh.
Well, we got a lot to get into.
Here's what's cracking.
And Gil.
Hold on before you get to that.
Is this my, is this it?
I'm sorry, man.
Listen, I ain't mean to play defense like that.
I ain't mean to shut you down to the point where you don't even want to play 2K
no more.
Come on, Cuavo.
Come back to the game, man.
You don't got to run a call of duty, man.
You don't have to run a call of duty, man.
You can continue the 2K, you know, experience.
I didn't know.
know it's that serious so you know I'll back up I'll put one of my who don't have
no defense on so you can score a little bit more you know what your team so
okay yeah I tried to you know play with him today and he was like now he quit
so yeah third motherfucker this week anyhow we got a lot to discuss here's what's
cracking in gills arena today the Lakers clinch their NBA Cup group with a big
win over the Clippers. Does the purple and gold have the best big three in the league
right now? LeBron, getting better every single game. Year 23, Lakers 3 and O, with LeBron
to the lineup. Clippers have lost 11 of their last 13 games, currently 13th in the Western
conference. Is it time to hit the panic button? And the bucks have lost five straight
games in our 11th in the east are the Greek Freaks days in Milwaukee. Number, Mr. B, you were
out in Milwaukee recently. You got to see firsthand was going down. We got a lot to discuss. But before
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We're going to talk about it, Gil, but I had a chance to win
some Big Bread last night. Austin Reed's
betrayed me, couldn't get one rebound.
It hurt.
I lost $192.
But it is what it did.
I won.
He won money.
He did.
He put money up.
Swaggy one with underdog.
$5.00 is a lot of money doing this economy.
All right.
Go along.
$5 a lot?
How much do you win?
I could have got $192.
I could have got $192.
That's a reason.
I want to get a rebound.
Can I ask you a question?
Yeah.
Please.
No, I'm not talking to you.
Oh.
Yes, sir, sir.
What's the point of playing?
To try to win.
A hundred, like,
like.
What's the point of playing?
The thrill of victory.
That's not for five dollars.
He put $5.5.5 to stick.
Like, you better off saving your $5.
Yeah.
Like, you're better off pocketing your $5.
Okay, you know dudes get smoked for $5.
You got to do it.
So you better off pocketing it.
Okay.
That's what I'm saying.
He got to do a crazy.
He got about to $19.
He was $193.37.
Yeah, $190.99.
It was $2.00.
It was two picks.
Austin Reeves double, double, double,
Hardin, 32.5 points in
assist. Hardin did what he needed to do.
Austin, he was 21 and 9.
Joe, you take your kids to Finney's
and that 192 gone.
That's two burgers
or two fries and two
apple juices.
Manning out. Organic, though.
Organic. But if you can't watch this show live
with us on YouTube, we have audio
version of it on Apple, Spotify, wherever you get
ate it out, and out. So Lakers and
Clippers have been going opposite directions
to start this season with the Purple
gold exceeding expectations as the second best team in the West and the Clippers
unction showing their age going two and ten in the last 12 games with Kauai
out for the bulk of those with an ankle injury. Battle of LA added a new chapter
Tuesday night as both teams met for the first time this season in NBA Cup group play
with both looking to stay undefeated to come one step closer to advancing to the
knockout round. Let's take a look at the highlights if we can please.
Luga Donchie came out on fire dropping 24 points in the first frame including five
threes, slim Slovenian genus, Jesus put up 32 in the first half, finished with 43 points,
13 to 6, 9 rebounds.
It was his fifth 40-point game this season.
Luca had 4 40-point games total last season.
Papad de Limon, Austin Reeves added 31 points and 9 rebounds.
Reeves had scored 20 or more points in 13 to 14 games this season.
And LeBron Ramon James Sr.
Scored 16 of his 25 points in the second half, along with six boards and six dimes.
Lakers Big Three combined for 99 of the team's 135 points.
So the Lakers entered the game as one of the worst three-point shooting teams in the league,
but went 13 to 29, and this one good for 45% from deep.
All five Clippers started are scored in double figures,
led by James Hardin, who was fresh offsetting the clip's single-season scoring record
with 55 against the Hornet Saturday.
The Beard debuted his new Hardin' Tense, put up 29 points, nine assists, and five boards.
Chris Dunn added a season-high 19 points before getting ejected late in the fourth quarter.
We'll have more on that later.
And Kauai Linder put up 19 as well in 28 minutes of action.
It was Kauai's second straight game.
is returning from a right ankle and foot sprain.
So the game was close through the first three quarters,
but the Lakers outscored the Clippers,
3725 in the final frame,
with Brony coming through with the game-sealing assist to Drew Timmy,
who got his first bucket as a member of the Purple and Gold.
But look at that pass right there.
Oh, my goodness.
Look at the, I will say Lakers have the best NBA Cup court.
Hey, yo.
Visually stimulating.
All right.
We see it.
The Lakers got their fifth straight win, third straight,
and NBA Cup play to clinch their group in a spot in the knockout round.
So, good, we watched that game on playback, but I'll put it up to the rest of the couch.
We were the biggest takeaways from the Lakers' NBA Cup group clinching win over the Clippers.
Let's start with Lakers Larry.
The most Laker-out person in the arena currently.
I wasn't listening to what you're saying.
What you're saying?
The biggest takeaways from the Lakers clinching their NBA Cup group with the win over the Clippers.
They play well.
It's hard to criticize, got to give him some praise.
I was wrong about LeBron being able to fit in right away, three and no.
First two games, like he says, slow.
I think he talks about it being his training camp and finding a way to fit in with the group.
Also being able to figure out how to keep his groove going while LeBron is out there.
I still think that the strength of schedule has gave them a lot of leeway to get their
momentum going the way that it is now.
They haven't really played anybody, but they've taken advantage of these games to create
some momentum and team chemistry.
Guys are playing with confidence.
There's a lot of good things happening for the Lakers.
A lot of good things happen for L.A., you know.
Dodgers win, Rams winning.
Shit, I'm on Hinge, I'm winning, shit, we're in L.A., shit, I'm with L.A.
I'm L.A. I'm Lakerie today.
I ain't tripping.
Shit, I'm with it.
I like it.
For now.
You're back winning on Hinge?
For now.
Okay.
For now.
Easy schedule?
What's the strength of schedule like on Hinge right now?
Better than a Laker?
I'm undefeated right now.
I'm undefeated.
Six and O.
In the clutch.
In the clutch.
Laker, six and out of season leading the league.
But when you look at this Lakers squad, 13 or 4, how do you feel about this new crew, LeBron, coming back, them advancing in the NBA Cup to the knockout round with a chance to be the only team in NBA history with two NBA Cup championships?
So you didn't have to throw that shit in there?
They do.
I'm a man of fact and principle.
All right.
No, to be where they are at this juncture without, I'm saying one of their better players.
Luke are missing a couple of games, Austin Reeves holding it down while he was at.
out 13 and 4. Yeah, trending up,
the brunt, getting his feet up under him.
I like him, and I was just telling Rashad a minute ago,
I like him in a screening role, like,
it's at the back screen and slip, makes the defense react
because they have to respect that screen.
And you can see the clip was messed it up, he got a layup.
So yeah, so you put him in a different role.
It's a different look for them.
for them. They were playing a certain way. I didn't, well, I didn't think that there
were to be in an adjustment period because he did play the last year. He knows those
guys' tendencies. He looked at himself as a smart basketball player, as does most people
that's played on the team with him. So yeah, it was an easy transition in my eyes and
for them to keep it going. Yeah. And this NBA man, once you
have chemistry and start to put it together that leads to win streaks we'll see if they
continue but if they're doing they're supposed to work right now they balling that they are
let's shift over this side mr b brandy jennings yeah car carrying country club member
biggest takeaways from the lakers win over the clippers to clinch their NBA cup group uh
i don't think it's just the win i just think overall everything since when brine was
was down, Luca was down, Austin Reeves, he was hearing the wait for them.
I mean, JJ Reddick, man.
You know, everybody's playing together.
They look like they're having fun.
You know, Bron coming back, Brown's going to be who he is.
And it's just exciting to see the way L.A. is playing right now.
They're playing exciting.
They're playing together.
And everybody's just stepping up.
Like, so it's, like you say, LA.'s in a good place right now.
Everybody's winning.
Lakers are, I think, 57 and 4 under J.J. Reddick when leading games after the third quarter.
So you think it's a product of him holding him holding?
guys accountable?
Yes.
Like direct correlation, like him not deviating, like making sure.
Just like last year, how he was on guys.
Same thing.
They just had to get used to it.
Gotcha.
Yeah.
And then Austin Rees, he's just, you know, he's really going to that number.
Confidence, man.
And he figured this league once.
It was those, it was those games in the beginning.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But I think that stands true for a lot of guys.
Once you figure this, like your position, right?
Once you figure out what has been successful.
successful for you and your confidence grows in that like that's and you figure out your peers like what okay I do this better than this person or I don't do that so so once you figure that part out I think in the league like yeah you will have success I believe then I think that's where he is in his growth and his maturation yeah had that 51 piece earlier in the season also dropped 40 this is 41 plus one for sure I like them
I think, no, I think they got like some little OKC team bonding chemistry.
I think that's what making all of them play better.
Like you see, you know, they having fun out there on the court, even with Marcus Smart making shots in the corner.
He being able to do him and, you know, nobody's looking over their shoulders.
Nobody is just look like they're jelling.
And that brings confidence.
And you wean out there, you know.
When you know your teammates got your back, you're not about to, you know, be looked at a certain way.
You don't feel comfortable taking a certain shot.
The pressure, you got to make every shot you shoot.
I feel like, you know, that will help LeBron, too, you know, coming back.
When guys, it's getting along, then, Austin, he had an open layup and passed it out to LeBron
and was excited that, you know, he hit the shot.
Like, he passed up a good shot for, I don't know if that's a better shot, but it was just a
another good shot but they're just doing things like that you know Luca took over the first
half could have had he might he might get close to 81 one of these days if they just let him go
I thought he's going to have 30 in the first quarter but you know but nah they all they're
just overall just playing well jelling hopefully to keep this going it's going to be hard to be
for sure let me ask you a question that bench a little shaky so we all
been like where so it's like your team right that you played on the Wizards
you had three guys average 20 we used to look at that and be like one of y'all
not going like we got to shut one of y'all water off tonight do you think that's like
that's not a thing anymore like they can just look at that bitch be like 27 he gonna get
it 25 he gonna get it right most part man they pass too though they could pass too though
I like that this turkey day.
Y'all are goblin.
Y'all are goblin.
Y'all are goblin is Laker shit.
I love it.
I feel good stuff.
I mean, no, no, I feel this.
The best, though.
The best is a little sakey, though.
I see that O'KC game.
Chip City, God damn it, I told you all, it's Chip City.
I said it from the beginning.
Easy killer.
Chip, we're second.
Oh, no, so I said, the bench, I said, that bitch is a little squeaky in that OKC game.
And two.
They only had 13 points left there.
Not three, but two.
No, I hear you, no, I'm just saying just the bench.
First of all, first of all, I don't even know why you were over there,
speaking about our team.
I'm just saying, the best.
When we came to the bucks, no one showed up.
It was like the bubble in there.
Yeah, the way we beat on y'all.
Was Janus win?
Yes.
He was out there.
We thought, we think.
There was an Anna de Kupo.
You know what I mean?
You know what I mean?
Joe, Joe, what did I say at the beginning of the season?
This is 20, last year, 2026.
This is the year.
After the trade went down in favor of yours.
Hey, listen, L.A. itself, since COVID, has been on fire.
We've done won some type of championship every year.
I know Dodgers got it this year, but 2026 that's the late because that's when we win ours.
Dodgers back to back.
Every year, we don't put boot tass to the rest of the world.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, COVID.
That's us?
No, for sure.
So would you say?
So you're going to throw the Rams in there too there, right?
No, Rams?
Yeah, they won there.
Dodgers won what we won the 2023.
What are we winning in 20203?
Because we're about to back.
What did we win in 2020?
What do we win, Gil?
The Cup.
The NBA Cup.
Bam!
The hardest NBA Cup.
In the NBA history to that point.
Bam!
You win a sudden.
That bitch's a little...
You know what I mean?
No, no.
The bitch don't need to shoot.
No, no.
They don't need to shoot.
They can come in something.
in there, drink a little water, come on there, play a little defense.
Look at Jackson Hayes out there.
DeAndre Aydon hurt right now.
But he cool.
I like Jackson.
He's some lives catching those.
Yeah, man.
Like, our shooting percentage is bad because a lot of people who don't need to be chucking it up
there, they'll be chucking it up there.
And it's hard.
I thought that's what you want to.
So you can.
Not everybody.
But which one is it?
Do you want him to shoot it when they be aggressive when they come, shoot it,
or you don't want them to shoot it?
Which one is it?
I want them to have a thin when they shoot it.
Meaning, I want them to have a thing.
them when they do shoot it need to go in okay that's the only show no no that's not that's like
a bitch is like that yeah you're shooting scared right are you man got one minute and got one shot
up who brownie yeah yeah we weren't going to talk brony on the show the most selfish one too
that was the one you know what you don't supposed to say but he's thinking about you know what
this is the this is the cup NBA cup it's about points right now we're different
difference right yeah Ronnie the game stealing a sister drew tim yeah I'm about saying for him to
assist and a shot attempt in one minute
that was
that was impressive
right
one minute at work
he got one minute work
he got one up
but I've been out there for longer
and only got two up so
we look good
we look good
we look good
when we look good
when we ain't looking good
we are there doing some bullshit
no we only ain't look good
no what I'm saying is
like think about some of the shots
we do take
as a team
it'd be some step back
I'll take that
No no that's what I'm saying
It'd be some step back
You know
But it's only what
Not even
Not even
College Street to NBA 3
It's NBA 3
Damned at a half court
Most of 8 3
But it's only two people
Doing that right
Austin Reeves and Luke
Okay
But you gotta let them be able to do that
Yeah you gotta live with that
Don't tell them don't do that
You don't really like the Austin
I like that
I like that
I don't like Threy's erratic 3
Did you like me because you don't shoot that
I never had resist
That you did
I was on the team with you
Who told me don't shoot?
At the end, when you wore number nine?
No, I told myself, don't shoot, shit I couldn't make shit.
The coach didn't tell me, have to tell me nothing.
Tell you yourself.
Talk who for a second, though.
The Lakers really good or where the clip is really that bad?
Both?
I don't know, we're second.
Both things can exist.
Lakers are good.
You plan a 40-year-old, you plan a 37-year-old, another 37-year-old, a 36-year-old, a 30-year-old.
five-year-old. What is Tyrone Lou
doing? What is he better than that record
indicate? What the fuck is he doing, man?
I mean, we call it. Then you hear what
you hear what Kawase. Oh, we're going to
dress that? Very frustrated with the lack
of where are the guys
that know who we're facing, what we're doing.
Teams we need to be holding
up on. Lakers hit shots
though. Lakers hit shots
last night. They hit big shots.
As they tend to do.
Luca was hot. Okay. At what point you'd turn the water off?
You can't. You can't.
They've been trying to turn that water off since 2020.
He ain't going to turn a little bit of water off.
Kliper's been trying to turn that water off.
When he had Paul George with him.
Kauai's hands still dirty from planting trees and shit.
Okay.
He don't know.
He got to go put the sanitize on the fans.
He can't just come back from planting trees to come out here and garden Luca.
I ain't know.
That's some shit you can just really do.
Niggas, you got to go out there and stretch a little bit.
You look a little stiff.
James looked good out there.
James got his stride.
He got his stride.
He got his.
He's tried.
But the rest of them?
I said before, so he's trying.
The rest of them look crazy.
James is trying.
Move at the same pace.
James and Lucas slowly.
Hey, James Hardin is trying.
He is doing his part.
The Lakers are number one in free throws, right?
I believe so.
They do a great job.
Like three years in a row.
Being aggressive, being aggressive, getting to the line.
Three years in a row.
They know how to file.
Drawing foul under the rule book.
When Clippers was good last year,
kind of like the same team, but Kauai was
There isn't there.
Nora Powell, who's now with the Miami Heat, playing at an all-star level.
They're traded for Bradley Bill and Bradley Bill ain't theory.
Oh, signed Bradley Bill after he was bought out.
They didn't trade him on the bio.
He's out.
He's out with a better replacement than Norman Powell.
You have a chance to find Norman Powell.
You know what it seems like sometimes too?
And it kind of happened with Luca early in the year, not having LeBron or stuff like that.
The team James wins with is the talent is not here.
It's usually mediocre and they can just, they're specialists.
And I'm trying to think if there's too much talent
that he has to defer so much from getting all these guys the ball
on how he plays the game.
Who?
Wait, hold on, hold on, what, hey, who's, hey, who is Kobe Brown there?
What talent do you speak of?
Two Kobe.
Why Leonard?
Okay, that's that.
Collins. He don't play rarely.
Collins. He ain't been playing.
34 minutes. Last night, but before that, go look at something.
Yeah, okay. Like, who else? He ain't been playing like that.
He ain't been playing like that. He needs to put the Nick Batoon in. Just leave him in.
He goes to him. Just leave him. Yeah, yeah. But that's who James. Just sit in that corner.
Shoot. Yeah. I mean, Dun is out there. Dunn's out there. He don't shoot.
Who? Done.
The team with Colin.
No, I think, I think, I think him and Kawhi seem, but they ain't the issue.
No, Kauai, Zook, Kauai.
Don't know, because Kauai probably looking like, man.
No, you know, Kauai is more of an I, I'm ISO type of player, right?
And how James is, he's going to hold it, throw it, y'all just shoot it.
And I think him and the Kauai, that one-on-one player, I think they're just not, they're not in sync.
And Kauai Pai Pai feel like, give me the ball.
This is my shit.
I know.
He gave him the ball.
He's probably like, give me the ball and it's my shit.
And he's like, yeah, the rest of him.
I just say it makes sense because if you think about James and the history of being on teams with secondary players.
Not secondary.
No.
Oh, you go ahead.
Go ahead.
Other guys is on the team that can play.
Like good guys?
Yeah.
No, guys is equal.
Like, or just.
But secondary is Nick Baton, like he said.
No, that somebody is.
That's utility.
He's a utility.
Those are utility guys.
Somebody on his equal player.
Somebody that needs, yeah, that need the ball.
Yes.
And I need to do my thing.
Never worked.
Never worked.
Never worked.
And it takes the ball out.
ball out of his hand that's why he always said I'm the system so he can show us 55 he
could show us his little straw that he's getting without kawai what he did it's like like he's saying
those guys are just i know i need you over there i need you over here like a rebound that shit
i make it in lobby at the rip kit capella that team now it ain't go it ain't a winning formula to
four championship shit but it's a winning formula get us to the playoffs to get us a winning record
we can get some momentum and then we bring kawai back and we bring kawai back and we
We're like, well, Kauai, what, 19?
You need the ball.
And it's like, Kauaias like, ah.
He's 20 in his first game, 19 to second.
Hey, I need to massage that thing.
I need my rhythm.
I'm saying?
Like, he's a rhythm.
Get out for a white, though.
When he was with Kauai, they was number one.
It's a rhythm.
James and Chris.
And Paul, Paul, Paul, Paul's a catch and shoot when he wants to.
And those are two point guards.
Those are two points.
You're talking about, you're talking about, you're talking about,
Kauai being a, but he's the only days off.
That's the thing.
That's the thing.
I'm saying, he's too.
He's like, Paul's a...
Paul can do both.
Paul George can do both.
He can come back here and near.
Paul George can catch and shoot.
Paul, if you throw it to him, he can go into it.
No, no, I'm talking about George, Paul.
I mean, Paul George.
Oh, when he was with the clipper...
No.
That's two point guards.
He needs, like, my Paul George.
It's no different than...
But...
And with Braun and some of his shooting, his shooting guards,
they need a certain type of secondary player.
Right?
You know, the ball stopper.
Our Quran, right, when we try and Quran's like, okay, here, let me go ahead and it kind of freezes everything.
That's what happens with them too.
He needs more of the Clay Thompson or a guy who can do both.
Like, I can catch a shoot or if you, if the ball comes to me, I can get it.
I can draw something up for you.
I don't think it's always them to.
At this stage, yeah, I think in this stage, I don't think James needs to be worrying about Kauau.
Because he's soaking out.
He has to.
But you're so in and out
and I'm getting my, it's like, it's like, bro, now you got
like I got him on a road.
So, but, but I hear you,
yes, but he's such a dominant figure
when the ball, when he's out there,
because he's really good.
Like, it ain't like he'll slouch when he's out there.
He's really good.
So when the ball comes his way, you can't expect him
to swing it to the next guy.
No, the ball comes his way.
Listen, I got to, I.
We lost the last 12 games.
I did.
But we got to go somewhere.
We got to go somewhere else.
But he ain't been playing, though.
What's the determining factor?
When he's on the floor, what should be the determining factor to sway the game in the Clippers' favoring?
What should be?
His defense.
Okay.
It's been non-existent in the last three years.
He can't move no more.
Think about what I'm saying, though.
Think about what I'm saying.
Think about what I'm saying.
They put him on Luca.
No, they can't move him.
Yeah.
Fried chicken.
But who's stopping Luca?
Yeah, nobody's stopping Luca.
What am I saying?
What am I saying specifically?
If Kauai Leonard standard, when he's on the court, is not just offense where we're depending on you to get us a bucket.
This is two-time NBA defense a player here.
Man, we need you to at least get some stops for us.
Slow him down.
Don't stop him.
I ain't saying turn his water off.
Man, make that motherfucker slow down a little bit.
Turn it to cool.
It's a motherfucker red hot.
Turn it to cool.
He got 20, what?
He had 32 in the first half?
30 to the first.
Bro, what are we doing?
And Chris Dunn.
What's you here for?
He's been average in 40.
I'm just saying.
Y'all got to look at it like this.
Most active, strong, athletic, long arms,
shooting guard that can defend Janine Brown, right?
Yeah.
It took him everything to keep Luca from averaging 30.
That's elite.
Anything gunner that's going to that's going to get their ass towards you at this point.
And he picked him up full court.
Yeah, but that's what I'm saying?
You're talking about it took all of that.
Lou Dorrit making work.
Those type of guys make them work.
So the fact that you were older with your knees and your thigh problems here, you, you're 30 in the first quarter of that.
Hey, is he handicapped with the lineup now that we're saying we're only depending on him for offense?
No, no, no, no, no.
We're giving him a pass on defense, and you're only giving us 19.
We got James out here.
James was trying last night.
I give him some credit.
He was trying.
To me, John Collins, whatever his name, he's one of those bigs that once you learned
how to shoot a little bit, you settled way too much.
And he was out there.
Brooke Lopez's ass, nigger.
Yeah, two, three, pump, freaking step back threes.
Oh, just go to the, yeah.
They broke, Brooke Lopez, that's the NBA, man.
But we're talking about what the clippers, though, they depend on him to be their third
star.
That's what the problem is.
You say that, it's like, damn, we're depending on these guys.
to help James win.
They've been in and out of lineup.
He's been in a little.
And then when they played through Zubok last year,
him and James was the focal point.
They played better last year when James was one
and Zubak was two.
When Kauai was out, they played better.
But now you insert Kauai full time.
Well, not four time, but.
Zubok is going to, listen,
they're going to defer.
The guys can say what they want to.
You're going to defer to Kauai when he's out there.
That's just what it is.
It's a natural instinct to defer to this guy.
To defer to this guy when he's out
because he's looked at as that.
Just natural reaction.
The Lakers.
North Pounderner.
I think it doesn't need to move on, man.
Who?
I think the clubber needs to move on.
Who?
Five years ago, Nick.
It's over.
That was five years ago.
That, yeah, there's too much in and out.
I love it, though.
I love that the quivers is losing, right?
I'm going to just be honest with you.
All right.
The fact that they were, they had them ranked two,
Preseason
Second and
Who is they?
Who the fuck is they?
The media.
Whoever ranks, whoever ranks, they had them
They had this team ranked second?
No way.
No way.
No way.
Not even on paper.
Not even on paper.
This hell no.
With a healthy koal with the team of Ross as suited.
They had them ranked second.
When?
No.
That was the discussion.
See what they did?
They would have never put it.
They looked good last year.
Even in the playoffs, they were old.
I told you what, A-A-R-P.
Every game.
Old.
Never.
You know, they didn't have a second.
Five, six.
They had five, six.
They had us eight.
Creep in.
Five, six.
Did not have the Lakers'clock?
No, not in the West, the NBA.
You coming in.
The whole, Bradley Bill.
The whole NBA.
No way.
You're not.
You're coming in.
You're going to be on revenge tour.
That's disgusting.
With just Bradley Bill.
Chris Ball.
Then you move up to two?
Lopez.
John Collins came.
And then John Collins came.
But you lost North Carolina.
And then they had a healthy Kauai.
They figured this team was about to be, woo.
Obviously it's not a healthy Kauai.
And they're looking, woo.
Let's shift back to the Lakers, which was the winning team in this game.
So LeBron looked a little rusty.
His first two games in year 23, back to back wins against the Jazz at the crib and in Salt Lake City.
So after the Lakers win Sunday, Brown had this to say about his first week back in action.
Shit, like this week was kind of like my training camp for me.
You know, to be honest.
I didn't get an opportunity to practice the guys at all, you know, throughout camp, throughout the preseason.
So, you know, I'm still working my way back.
So we had to actually zoom in on that video because Brown was in the towel.
I didn't even allow him to put his draws on before doing that.
But Bron has increased his scoring output in each his first three games.
And so far in those three games, he's now averaging 18 points, nine assists, five rebounds,
while shooting 53% from the field.
So after catching some criticism for being a minus 13 on the court in the electric's first two wins,
Brown was a plus 18 in the win
over the Clippers.
What did you start with you?
What are your impressions of LeBron
after his first three games in the year 23?
Anything.
He went to the fucking plus minus, man.
We went two games.
He goes to the plus minus to talk about the four.
Can't just say nothing to it.
Like if we just say, all right, okay,
where are we going to rank him as 41-year-olds
that ever played in his NBA?
Very high.
One?
Oh, okay.
that that right there should be able to stop all criticism
where do you rank him for his age in all of NBA
there's 5,500 ever
where do you rank him for being 41 or 40
or 39 that wherever you rank them at
criticize it to whoever's behind them or in front of him
because at this point listen we get it you don't like him
right but the fact that this is what it sounds like
with a great
I didn't know we criticized the greats like this
I thought we just looked the other way
like I didn't know I didn't know we
this is what we did to
plus minus got to go all the wind
I just thought man look at 41 listen even
even if he average if he gave us 10 to 12
we like that's good shit that's that's good
but the fact that he's out there actually
contributing and it is an actual factor is very different.
18.95 seems like a pretty good style line for a soon to be playing right now.
18, 8.
Say it again?
189 and 5.
Didn't even have training camp and trained for the last month and a half.
And what are they going to be?
With the sky out.
In the season with like 203.
And they considered a big three?
I couldn't do this at 29.
Fuck.
I'm just being honest, man.
Like we just got to be real life.
be realistic of how we judge
and judging people, even if you
don't like somebody. You still got
to be at least some type of
fair. You can't just
say, I'm going to judge this 41-year-old
to me. That's my best player who was 25.
That's easy for people to hate.
No, it's easy for them to hate. No, it's not easy for them to hate.
To be honest. You got a really, listen.
No, over being honest. No, if over got an
old motherfucker cooking your food and he
out there shaking and shit. The totality
of what we're talking about. It's easy for
Tenderness.
Tenderness.
I don't want this.
Old, he ain't doing it.
It's easy for him to say that shit, then to be honest, like,
ain't nobody else dead what he's doing.
But think about the hate, that means you see he scored and they won.
You start looking for shit now.
That's what I'm saying, it's not easy.
You got it.
We got it.
We got it.
Yeah, look at it.
He is perfect.
Why is he on the court?
He ain't perfect.
Yeah.
And that's that's all going through.
You're going through, just picking out what you want,
so you can talk about it.
That's what.
when you, come off.
Well, let's shift.
It's amazing.
LeBron doing his role
in the Lakers Big Three.
Yeah, that tenderness.
Fall off the bump.
They start hating on that.
They did.
It's not even your place.
You don't own the restaurant.
Your restaurant.
So it's going to take away from our tenderness.
That don't mean the meat.
Shit, I just said, I owned it.
I'm the face.
Like Uncle Ben.
But LeBron has made the Lakers Big Three hole.
But we got to give a shout to other.
crew, the exciting whites, Luca playing at an MVP level, Reeves on pace and make his first
all-star game, slim Slovenian Jesus, 35 points, nine assists, nine rebounds, Papad de Limon, 28, seven
assists and six rebounds.
When you look at this Lakers, big three, how dangerous is this crew right now?
I think we 30 minutes in on the Lakers, 30 minutes straight.
But we talked to Clippers for a good nine and a half minutes.
Oh, go ahead.
It was part of the Lakers talk.
But it was a shift.
It was a shift, though.
There's a shift, though.
Go ahead.
Go ahead.
Continue.
Our favorite city.
Continue.
You all leg it up.
We figured.
The whole this is just for the intro.
It was just for the intro.
I do shit just for the end.
I'm just in the whole game.
Just for the intro.
There was only three games last night.
I got all my shit off in the early beginning.
It was a very light NBA Cup schedule.
I'm good with it.
Thanksgiving.
We appreciate you.
What was the question?
How dangerous is this Lakers' big three in your opinion?
I mean, it's a team thing.
team thing I think they team they team dangerous I turned it off once and they got a
certain amount of points I knew I was gonna have to come in here and listen to some shit
like damn some exquisite high level basketball that no he was hoping oh oh I was about
the screenshot the motherfucker in the group chat said damn that niggins went to 25 and then 31
I said god damn man it's gonna be a hard day tomorrow
damn yeah but they look they look they looked they looked the way y'all predicted them to
look, you know, just hope they sustain it.
I'm hoping they sustain it.
That's all they can do.
As long as they stay healthy.
We know where Hope works at, though, Kay.
They gotta keep it winning.
They gotta keep the winning.
They gotta keep their winning.
We know how the Lakers do.
All right, so.
Not this year, man.
I'm gonna go on a limb here and I'm gonna say it.
This is probably the best big three in regular season.
In the National Basketball Association?
Right now?
Ever.
Ever?
Ever.
I think this three is better than the K.D.
Katie?
The Katie.
Clay?
Yeah.
Damn.
Why?
No, no, no, no, don't do that.
Why?
Tell us why.
No, don't do that.
Tell us why.
What was Katie in them average?
25, 26, 20.
Where would you put?
That's like saying, please.
No, don't do that.
I'm just saying, though.
I'm just saying, look, you got stuff.
I just want to say it.
Okay, okay.
Don't do that.
No, we got LeBron and we got, we got LeBron.
Oh, LeBron.
That was a young, Katie.
Just run with it.
You know, that feels.
Engagement.
We just, we just, we just, we just pushing the narrative.
We were doing a great job engagement farming on the Lakers previous to that comment.
I'm just saying, I mean, I mean, they're not better than them at that, you know, at their height, but, I mean, they're a dangerous three.
The reason I compare them now because those three didn't.
They played in different realms, right?
So they can jump in and out.
They can play ice football.
They can play catch and shoot.
They can play drive and kick.
They can play pick and roll.
They can play two-man game, three-man game with each other.
So that was the reason that Katie Curry-Clay was so good
because they all, they didn't affect each other's game.
And that's rare.
A lot of general managers don't understand how to put teams together.
They think names match versus the skill set.
We've seen some lose their job as a result of that.
So with this three, it's kind of like the same.
You have scores, playmakers, shooters, right?
You got dive, duck in guys.
You got fast break guys.
So, you know, if Lucas is playing the point
and he wants to do the ping and roll,
you know, the Broncan spot up or backdoor slash, right?
So you've got all the elements.
So I think the three is going to be dangerous once they're going to see.
So we asked the chat to the Lakers have the best big three in the NBA.
67% of the chat,
non-biased from all over the world
said yes they do
one last thing in this game and then we'll move
on to the clipper side of things just a little bit more
but there was a minor scuffle late in the fourth
quarter involving Luca Donchick and Chris Dunn
take a look at the video
this was oh yeah oh yeah
done dimed up for a buggy
here to shop Luca don't move Rob
Danny Slovenia Jesus crashed in the ground in front of LeBron
Luca stepped him
Dunn shoved the ball
yeah Jackson Hayes push him
yeah look at Luke
Dunn appeared to
Slap Hayes on the cheek.
Give an attack for the push.
I'm just taking another look.
Now look at Lucas right here.
Watch this.
Yeah, you already got pushed.
Let me go ahead, get my name.
Go ahead, get it in, get it in, get it in.
This be me when in the game looking.
This is high level.
Watch out.
More of a correct.
Watch out.
I ain't lying.
So after the game, Luke had this to say about the scuffle
and Hayes handling his lightweight.
Yeah, I mean, everybody got each other's back.
Everybody got each other's back on this team, you know, so I appreciate him.
I'll pay his fine for sure, but that's just so what kind of team we are.
I'll pay the fine for show, for show, for show.
He got it, seen that Bugatti yet.
I thought his English would be a little bit better by now.
I'm just me I'd be like, yeah, what the fuck is going on?
Who are your mouth?
Sound like Nick over there.
Slobbing and shit.
When that's a lava, niga.
Juicy mouthed.
Lobervina.
Juicy mouthed.
They said you had to wear his mouth on the tea.
That's crazy.
That's the first time they ever
got on these swimming together.
The wetest mouth on the tent.
I agree.
All right, well, let's shift off to the clipper side real quick.
They came together on one thing.
Juicy mounted.
Clippers have lost 11 their last 13 games.
My juicy mouth.
Oldest team in the league, five and 13.
Does Chris Don get suspended for that?
Where do you slap?
I mean, I mean, he got pushes in the back.
I don't know, man.
Now you get fine.
I think just fine.
I'm just that.
I mean, do they, no.
Because he got put, well, I don't know.
I don't know where they're going to start.
Do they consider that a punch?
Huh?
He said that a punch.
Well, he did, well, open-hand.
Put the thing in front of Lucas test, right?
You're talking about the one Jackson Hayes.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
That's open-hand still, right?
Yeah.
He was, his hand was out, and he made contact with his face.
I'm just wondering, with all they go, are they going to consider that a punch?
Oh.
Yeah, I don't know these rules now.
I'm bad, I'm bad, my.
The league don't consider that a punch.
Oh, not the job.
Do you think they will?
I don't think he should be suspended, but.
I'm saying, I just not, but I just.
Yeah, man, push you in the back to me.
I think you should at least be able to...
To the side.
Pushed the ball in the man's face.
To the sides.
That wasn't better.
No matter.
So the thing about, like, he started it, Jackson Hayes escalated it, and he swung at him.
So I think, you know, that's just my personal opinion.
I don't consider it.
You know the best part about it?
LeBron James.
LeBron, very strategic.
Very boy that he goes, he went in there, that fine boy, that's, who!
On the last year's going to do.
Last year of my dad.
He looked down and look at him like, yeah, nigger.
So.
Say, thank you.
Yeah, man.
I want to get to the Clippers quickly,
and Rash, I thought it was very concerning for that side of.
Clippers have lost 11 in their last 13 games, 5 and 13, now 13th in the West.
They're in the bottom third of the league in both offensive and defensive rating
in 24th in that rating.
Kauai played in his second straight game.
after missing the previous 10 with a right ankle and foot spring and after the game he had this to say about his squad difference with this group where it's been such a struggle to kind of sustain some of the blows you guys have taken early
just got to get the right lineups on the court I guess you know get some more talent play play with better talent and see what happens you say like get more talent is that like internally externally I'm saying like playing better like we all just got to play better make sure to correct this
We're trying to clean that shit up.
Trust one another and just get better.
Hey, good thing.
Way to try to backtrack that thing, Kaua.
Play with better talent.
Hey, maybe we need to play with better talent.
Play with different lineups on the floor, but we need better talent.
That's what that man said.
Interesting choice of words there.
But Ty Loo also has some interesting thoughts about the clippers dealing with injury
and the next man up mentality.
So Tyloo said,
I know a lot of people say next man up
But if your best player is making $60 million
And your next man is making $400,000
It's not really the same
As a reminder, the Thunder currently own the Clippers
2026 draft pick
They're taking shots like that
They're going crazy
The clip going clip going clip
What happened?
The Thunder owned the Clippers 2026
NBA draft pick
They get a fuck around and get a lottery pick
niggie. No, that's not what he said
We know what he said
Yeah
Basically if Kauai's go down
And y'all said, next man up.
That next man up takes 400,000.
That's his talent.
We're missing a Bugatti.
He's a Honda.
So it's not a net.
This ain't the same race.
But they decided to do what?
Get rid of a little Ferrari.
Sold it to Miami.
Yeah.
Picked up a little tricycle.
Yeah.
That motherfucker broke as soon as it got there.
That's a huge.
A little tink broke soon as it got there.
Now you're talking about complaining about next man up, nigga.
Yeah.
That's the next man.
Your next man is right there.
It's right.
This is what you got.
That's what you own it.
You do this in a way.
It's like, yeah, y'all take this.
We'll deal with whatever.
We're good.
Yeah, we got Bradley.
We're good.
Nah, he's talking about for himself.
Hawaii's out.
Batooning you up.
Do you?
Nah, it ain't Batoon.
We're talking about like the Kobe.
The Brown.
They heard of that name.
Those are gnarred.
That's a small fort.
That's who's in for Kauai when Kauai was out.
No.
It's all of them, man.
It's all.
Yeah, it's all.
All three don't make the same amount.
All right.
Come on, man.
Rock paper sessions.
I want to go in.
Come on, bro.
Can't get rid of a little four.
We're talking about here.
You get it.
That part.
Man, you make better decisions out here, man.
Play with more talent.
Woo.
It ain't.
That's what the man said.
That's what the man said.
I paid this man, so you're like, man,
I can't keep paying people.
I can't keep making these things.
I can't keep making these same.
mistakes. I can't pay. He's going to come up with better tree companies.
League's going to be down another black coach, man. What would they have to pay
Powell? Make like a tree and get out of here. To keep them.
They signed him when he got there, didn't he? I think he had a couple. Let me see.
Let me see. We're just making the Miami. I mean, it wasn't a trade, right? It was a free agent. He was a free agent. No.
So Powell is one year left on the job. I think he's extension
Elevate making 21 mill this season. He got traded. Yeah. He got traded. Yeah.
For Collins?
For Collins, yeah, in a package, yeah.
Mm, nasty.
Nasty workers, I say.
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Okay, y'all did?
That was good.
That was good.
That was good.
That was good.
Good terrible.
No clapping.
It's good at Kauai.
It's good.
You weren't even blinking.
Randy Washington.
I got a lazy eye.
You don't just skip past that Kauai though?
How about you feel if you as teammates, though?
You got to ask you, I never been that position.
That's your ass.
So how do you?
I don't remember you.
How do you feel?
Huh?
How do you feel?
How do you feel?
in Memphis and number nine on the Wizards.
I was making $21 million.
I felt good.
No, we didn't say more talent on the floor.
We need more talent.
Again, I was a high paid on the team, so whatever they said,
it didn't matter to me.
How about you, player?
How'd you feel?
When Dwight was like, man, we can't have Gil out there.
We need Turquilu.
Uh, what?
Jamer Nelson.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I remember that shit.
Okay.
We do have a...
How did you feel when we was getting our ass whoop to Boston
and I came to the sideline?
And I said,
Motherfuckers ain't ready.
They shouldn't be in the game.
And then y'all got benched for a week.
But the talent, y'all was losing already by 10...
By 20.
So the talent was already less when they was out there.
I don't know what I was that is how did you feel?
You know how I felt.
I felt like this ass nigger telling me that
I'm ass when they losing by 20
And he's going to call me.
You're going to call me out.
That's how I felt.
So that's why I feel about, I know they feel that way to about Kauai.
Play better.
Get his ass cooked by 30, 30 in the first quarter.
Play better.
You're going to say we need better talent.
They got nine points until a five minute left when he said, you know what?
Let me try to get my average.
All right, well, there you go.
So we know how they feel.
One last clippers related subject.
for this Thanksgiving week.
We were supposed to talk about it yesterday,
but we couldn't hit everything yesterday.
So the end of the season will be the end of an era
with Chris Paul officially announcing his retirement
at the conclusion of his 21st season.
So CB3 made the announcement via his social media
this weekend before the Clippers game at the Hornets.
His final game in his home state
with Charlotte just over an hour away
from Paul's hometown of Winston-Salem.
CB3 Future First Ballot Hall of Famer
with an impressive resume.
He was a Ricky the Year, 12-time, All-Star, 11-time,
All-N-Bay selection 9.
nine time all defensive selection. Six times steals champ, five times assist champ.
Also finished top five in MVP voting five times in his career. We'll finish his
career. Second all time in both steals and assists behind John Stockton. Also has
some legendary State Farm commercials playing both himself and his fictitious
twin brother Cliff Paul. So CP3 picked the clippers for his final season where he's
one of the architects with the Lob City era struggled to crack the rotation this
year getting several DMPs unfortunately. But
But when you look back at Chris Paul's career, what stands out the most to you all?
A lot of you guys played against him.
Swaggy, you played with him for about a good 20 games.
I think that was his first challenge.
I remember he was coming into the drive, and he was in D.C. working out.
And I remember the trainer, Eidon, text me and said, oh, you know, hey, you want to train right now with one of the rookies.
You know, just give him a little, you know, bump before, you know, he said.
he enters a drive, he's going to be a tight, he shouldn't be a top five pick.
So that's your shit, all right, cool.
You know, working with him, what he was afraid of, I guess like any small guard,
he thought he was too short for the NBA, couldn't get a shot off.
So we planned one-on-one, and let's just say I had a rough day.
It was one of those days where I was making a lot of excuses for myself,
like, yeah, I'm just not in shape right now, you know.
You know, so I went 0 and 21 from the ones.
Every win one-on-one?
No, he whooped my ass.
I've been down that goddamn court.
No, no, I ain't a lot.
In the fact that he was, like, really feisty, I was like,
no, you're going to be fine.
But I can tell you this, when regular season start, you're in trouble.
And, you know, I let him have it during regular season.
But just to see that fight in him and, you know, how he, you know, turned out.
and lasted this long.
You can see it early in once.
He was a very controlled PG and understood, you know, the game very well.
So, you know, to see him retiring, you know, where he wants to, his way, you know, that's amazing for him.
Well, let's shift over Mr. B, Mr. B, U.S. CP3.
I've had some history with each other.
Mm-hmm.
Whoa.
You got to be.
phrase that.
What?
It's one.
He's on one.
No, it's not.
I'm not.
I'm just saying it's not.
You said with each other.
I only think only one.
There is a lack of respect for me.
No, I got it.
But I don't think Chris Paul knew he seen it.
So it's kind of, you know.
Brandon Jane is the staple of basketball culture.
No, I feel like Chris Paul is the last true point guard we'll ever have at that size.
Just the way the game is playing.
Now, I know when I was growing up, that's how, you know, we were taught how to be a point guard like Chris Paul.
So he is definitely the definition of a true point guard, and he's done it for a long time.
Everywhere he's went, he's won.
So, man, congratulations to him.
And, yeah, I don't think we'll have another, like I said, we'll never see another small point guard at that size anymore, that dominant.
I think that game, I think it's over for us.
I have the ability to score, but, I mean, obviously facilitating with his hustle.
I mean, it's true.
I mean, it's true, though, bro.
I can't.
I'm not going to, you know.
You let it go, huh?
You let that go, you know?
I was just a little kid, you know, fuck him.
You got you?
He ain't got no ring, so it don't matter.
We all at the same table.
Tell the story.
No, let's go.
Let's go. Let's go next.
We'll go around.
We'll go around.
Let's go next.
Let's go.
He said we all ain't got a ring, so.
So it doesn't matter.
We all sat at the same table.
It's a, um, it's a special,
a moment. You know, me and Chris used to be good friends, good friends. I used to be good friends
with a lot of people now. People just don't like me anymore. But I got to see him grow from
Cap of Magic, him and Ray Sean Terry, him being below six feet before he got his growth spurred.
And coming into the draft, even before that Edon workout, worked out for Utah, seeing him do a
lot of things, you know, me, him, World Wide West.
We all came up in the same circle.
So CNCP go from Wake Forest to Hall of Fame,
Point Guard, has been very special to witness,
knowing that I was beside him at some point
and seeing his trajectory go exactly the way we go as prodigies.
As young kids coming up in the AAU circuit
and having the expectation of our talents,
He's surpassed it.
He's definitely one of the guys that overachieved.
He definitely went above and beyond what people had placed on him.
And he kept his eye on the prize.
He didn't win a championship, but he still won it.
There's winners and there's champions.
You know, and Chris has always strives to be, you know,
the best foundational point.
point guard that you can be, John Stockton type, you know, prototypical point guard.
So for him to keep going and knowing that this is his limit and he can shut it down now,
it's going to be difficult to not be able to win the championship for it, but I think he's done
enough. Sometimes it's enough is enough. And I'm proud to see that he's done all that he's done
and salute to him and his family, CJ, the whole crew over there. They know I got nothing
be loved for him so congrats can you look back on CP3's career what comes the
month oh just a fist competitor yeah he competes at all costs he wants to win
he's been putting some unfortunate situations with injuries and different
things like that been on the other bad side of a of a trade that could have
put him in a much better winning situation to bounce back from that
and still land in a place where you have a chance to win.
It says a lot about him as a player, his competitive nature.
He makes people around him better, what you expect out of your point guard.
He has always been, in my opinion, an underrated defender because of his competitive drive
and takes things personal.
People can say what they want to, he wasn't athletic, wasn't this, wasn't that, but what
he lacked in those areas he made up for.
But yeah, so he's
to Brandon's point, to
Ashar's point. And yeah,
he's going to, he is the last
of that style
of a point guard to win
control the game and make sure
everybody got looks a solid shot every
possession down.
Yeah, I just
I understand we all want to keep playing.
I just
wish he would like,
how many, he played a lot.
lot of game last year.
Like, go out on top.
They played all 82 games.
Yeah, like, go out.
I just, like, go out on top.
I get it, like, having D&Ps and all that shit,
especially if it's unexpected, does something to you.
But if it's talked about beforehand, you kind of still going to do something to you,
but you don't, but for you to suit up that game and be like,
your name not called at first time, when you didn't, when you could have went out
without the D&Ps on your resume and different things like that,
I just want guys to look at it that, like in that manner.
because being able to
because he signed late
right and kind of on the wall
right
so I just like go out on top
for some guys to be able to go out
here I think he's
he deserved that
for what he gave to the game right
to go out on top going on your own mayor
still but having
not D&Ps on your resume
because of what
what you're lacking now because of the game
and the position that you play
so go out where you like here
But it's still, of course, it's not a doubt about it.
First ballot, Hall of Fame.
All those things are in place.
But go out on your, I want to just see him go out here instead of on this team.
What Lord knows what they're going to finish in the West.
So that's not a, yeah.
Yeah.
That's when I leave swaggy.
You and Chris Paul play 21 games together.
You were 14 and 7 in those 21 games.
Yeah, we were.
You know, American King was on it?
Yeah, we were.
Yeah, we were.
Can't get my dog.
Nah, one thing I just don't want Chris to have that not winning a championship
lingering back of his mind because he had a great career for sure.
One of the best PGs to play this game.
One set the tone for people wanting to come to the Clippers, man.
Live City was one of the...
You were 24-17 with Chris Paul.
He was with us.
He was with us.
He came on then.
He was there for him?
Was I?
I thought you was at first.
I don't know.
That's what I thought you was.
Okay.
Now you played 21 games.
Can you play 41 games?
Yeah, that's okay.
So he got traded?
I got traded.
I'm trying with it.
I remember that.
Chris Paul was the first person
to call me similar to Gil.
But nah.
Has first type of guy.
Even when some of the balls come, Paul's kind of late, but you still, you know, Chris Paul, man, he changed the game.
It's going to forever be a top, wherever you want to put them, a top five, top 10 PG's.
It's always going to be in that category.
To me, it's like the black John Stocking.
If he won.
Do you put it on your trip?
Oh, no, do we put it on the, do we put it on the black one or white?
Or Brown, can I get one of those from my tree?
Stalking, right?
Yeah, what is his name?
What is his name?
I'm gonna put one of those stockers on my tree.
On the chimney.
On the chimney.
What is it?
Stalking.
I'm making sure you said stocking.
Can I get my, can I get my praise to Chris Ball?
Get this man a beer.
Can I get my praise to Chris Ball?
It don't matter if he don't play, he got a DMP.
He's getting this for real tour.
You know, I've seen Kobe not get, he get DMPs not played.
You know, Kobe didn't come to practice.
He just came to games.
He didn't play what he wanted to.
That's the same name?
This is not the same thing.
This is not the same thing, Nick.
It doesn't have.
He didn't be available to play.
Everybody determined that.
He knew determined when Chris Ball was getting it.
I wouldn't retire if I didn't get this.
And I feel like he deserved this.
So it don't matter if he's getting a D&P or playing 30 minutes.
I feel like fans still want that last time seeing him in person,
getting an autograph, getting able to get the shoe sign.
I feel like he's going out the right way.
What more can you ask for?
He tried, he tried his best.
He came up short.
I'm thankful he was hurt game seven against us.
I mean, game six and seven, because they was up.
They was up four, two.
And he went out.
Came back and won, so.
I mean, three, two.
You want to understand.
I'm just asking.
Fuck up clarifies or you can clarify.
They can help you.
Let's all be back for two.
Let's all be back for.
It was over.
Diggas, it was clarified.
Three, two, and you know, he got hurt.
He just came up short and saying, people that never went to the, you know,
stop.
It's not a personal sight, Nick.
I'm helping.
Stop.
There's no need for fucking clapback, nigga.
It's calm them down.
Is that the calm down?
Calm down.
Calm down.
I'm about to get a calm down.
It's on the back.
It's on the back.
It's on the back.
He is easy.
Relax, Timmy.
Relax, Timmy.
He's got to rub his back.
Relax, Timmy.
You got sloughing.
The sloshing side.
I'm like, dica.
That's not correct, digger.
I keep seeing downtown special.
Yo, can I get a napkin, please?
I get a napkin.
Now, I know what you're just saying.
Last year would have been a great year for him, but I don't think he was playing on retirement.
I understand that.
So.
retiring and you didn't get the...
So me and T. Luke will have to have a conversation
before the season then.
Either you're going to play more or you're not.
So what that was?
Hey, if you're going to play more you though.
I want my farewell to it.
Either you're going to play me or you're not.
If he's saying no, what's going to do?
No, if you're going to play?
I'm still coming.
I'm still playing.
Hey, it goes into the ball.
It goes into the pub.
It's a conversation thing.
Don't embarrass me.
He's not getting it.
I don't feel that's embarrassing.
The DNP?
No.
Yes, it is.
Can't play tonight.
He's, he's.
Well, tell me that.
Tiring.
Tell me that.
I'm sure they told him that, though.
I don't know.
I said, I don't know that.
Like I said, for it to be an unexpected thing.
Game in the game.
That's the reason they did.
For it to be an unexpected thing and you playing eight minutes, seven minutes.
Like, that's, what is that doing?
But him out there is just, it's doing what?
It's doing what?
That's my point I'm making.
Don't embarrass me.
Don't make me look bad in these little minutes I'm getting.
Either play me or don't play me.
That's not.
I'm going to have my farewell tour.
If I play you,
so that's what I'm going to have.
That's not tightly.
I'm going to have my farewell tour at that position, dog.
If it was a big,
you can hide him a little bit.
So, Kay,
are you saying don't check in just the wave off?
Like Vince and all,
everybody else.
Like, when you're checking at the end of the game?
That's at the end of the game, cool.
End of the game.
He's playing eight, nine minutes during the course of the game.
Yeah.
Or DMP.
So if I give you a DMP,
because we're trying to win the game
are we not trying to win every game
if we're the clippers?
If we're down 20
if we're down 20 I put CPS
is for you to say goodbye
or put down high
right, it's for you to
But that ain't the case though
But that's not the case right now
That's why we
So let's just say
Yeah, four DMPs
That's because we have eight minutes
Let's just say they were closed games
Those were the close games
Those were the close games
We don't know whether we're going to put you in
How are you embarrassed though?
Why are you embarrassed though?
And you told him you're retiring.
Because I'm Chris.
You just told him that.
So this is his personal furrow to him.
Yeah.
So it's turning into it.
Because he's disannounced.
Everybody knows.
We don't know this for facts, right?
We don't know this for sure.
If Chris Paul come out game one to game, what they didn't, what they 17, 18 games in?
18 games.
Had he played all 18 games 20-some minutes a night from game one, I don't think he'd be retired.
He can't.
I don't think he'll be retired.
He's on the wall.
That's my personal opinion.
I don't think he'll be retiring right now.
Yeah, but who are he going to play?
Listen, but five DMPs, play a game, the DMP, play two games, DMP.
But that shit is.
So now that's really like, man.
You're not taking into account what Tailu has to deal with now.
I am.
So if those 18 games, I'm playing you 20.
That's what I'm saying.
And we losing.
That's what I'm saying.
That was the conversation.
And we losing.
Yes.
It's like, we got to put him.
over there.
But he was out of the game
for five of them
six, seven, eight and nine
and them losses they got
he ain't played.
But you're saying
me to switch my line up
based on
if I play him
I said the conversation
was, I said
the conversation is to have
before we play one game.
But we, I don't know me.
I'm CP, I don't know if I'm ready
I don't know if I'm ready
retire or not.
But you know if you're going to play me
20 minutes or not.
The conversation is had
when I signed with the clip,
I signed late.
He was the last one to sign
to sign the clip
I'm not mistaken.
It was the last one to sign, right?
I think right before training camp.
Right before training camps.
That was the right.
Coming into it, so that's my point, the point I made when I said last year,
you played all them games last year, that should have been, shit.
I got, hey, I know I wanted to it, but it didn't happen.
I wasn't be ready, but I played all 82.
The phone don't ring in July.
The phone don't ring in August.
Actually, he signed with them in July, if I'm not mistaken.
Really?
July 21st.
Yeah.
So he had the training count.
He had everything.
So he was expecting to play.
Yes.
So that's my thing.
And if, is it, had a conversation between you a thing.
I signed early, am I going to play?
Am I going to play or not?
They projected number two because Chris Paul's coming off the bench for Jane Hart.
To help fortify that bench.
But CP3 wanted to be closer to family and son.
Yeah.
How would have had all the time to work?
I'm saying, you could have had all the time in the world.
I'm saying, you could have a rally bill was there.
But if you projected to play, right, beginning of the season.
And we see you don't fit with what we're doing.
Right now the NPs come.
Because you don't fit.
And we haven't actually had the conversation of you retiring, though.
But what if we haven't had that conversation?
That's what I'm saying.
We haven't had that conversation.
No, we haven't had that retirement conversation.
This is all about how I see you fitting with our team.
As a coach, yes.
Is it good coaching?
It's up for debate.
Yeah.
Up for debate.
But for CP, like you're saying,
Is it embarrassing?
I don't think so.
I don't think so because it's based,
but it's based on what T. Lou sees he can do for our team right now.
I own the retirement thing.
If it's a retirement thing with T. Lou and they had that conversation,
I think he does it differently.
I think he does it.
Right?
Put him in at the end of the game.
Yeah, I think he does it different.
Put him in at the end of the game.
Let him get his, his boughs and shit, let him get the game ball.
And, yeah.
But I think now at this point,
him saying it out with him saying it to T. Lou without saying it to T. Lou.
But hey, yo, with these DMPs and shit.
Hey, listen, you can cut that shit out now.
That's my thing.
I'm pretty sure they had it.
That's my thing with it because we...
Yeah, they...
Well, I mean, I think this was...
This was going to be his last year, but came to your point,
if he would have came out cooking, maybe he would have changed his mind a little bit.
Or just playing out playing different.
The team would have been 13 and 4.
Yeah, a different record.
Different record.
13 and 4.
Now, instead of 4 and 13.
And he's playing good enough.
I'm playing well.
There's a team in the different conversation, is what I'm, in my opinion.
He's contributing.
He's contributing.
But now you get D&P here.
You play a game.
You play seven minutes.
You get four DMPs.
You play a game.
You play 19 minutes.
You come back, get two DMPs in a row.
Then you play nine minutes.
That shit.
No.
But you sign in the end of July, too, though.
Like, that's different for you, too.
What the, you normally be the first one sign or not even in free agency.
It ain't never been in free agency.
That's what I'm saying.
So that's different, that's the same trajectory of fucking D&P.
You're signing after everybody else.
But he didn't.
So what are you saying?
He did.
He signed July 21st.
That's after everybody else.
That's early.
That's three weeks in to the Free Act history, but I'm saying it's not, no.
Everybody was signed already, besides him and Westbrook.
Fuck.
By three weeks in, so you just, so three weeks in, everybody was signed.
All right.
So three weeks in, everybody was signed.
All right, you were right.
You were right.
You're right.
You're irritated for no reason.
You're right.
No reason.
Thank you.
We all agree with him.
Listen, this nigga, listen.
Y'all want to be talking to art with this niggins.
This niggins, the niggins.
The niggins, the niggins.
He got fog going on.
I never seen the motherfucker all.
Like, fog going on.
I said it's my fucking opinion, nigger.
It's my fucking opinion.
You're right, bro.
Shut the fuck up.
It's my opinion.
You just want to argue with a nigger for no reason.
I said, it's my opinion.
You can have your opinion.
You can have your opinion.
I got my.
Have it.
Have it.
Be respect to my opinion.
No, why?
Why?
You ain't respected nobody else's opinion.
You just want to argue.
You just want to argue with a nigga.
You just want to argue with a nigga about this opinion.
Save it.
All right.
Let's keep this moving.
What makes the niggas talk about?
I said I got an opinion and I don't want to argue with you.
You're right.
You're right.
Doesn't done it all.
What makes it tough?
I thought this was about Chris Paul.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, his farewell was supposed to take congratulations.
And the nigger want to argue your nigg's opinion.
It's for real court.
No, yeah.
Congratulations. Chris Paul, congratulations again.
Had an amazing career.
Thank you, Chris Ball.
For a real tour.
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I'm asking.
Did anybody have a rebuttal about your opinion of what?
Chris Paul meant since a retired.
Didn't anybody say anything about it?
Right, you're right.
No, didn't nobody say shit about it.
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You just want to come in this bitch and argue.
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Mr. B, you've been attending a lot of games recently too.
You were out of Gills Arena last week as you headed to Milwaukee to handle some business and show love.
to the foe, one, foe.
Let's take a look.
They lost, right?
On the row with Mr. B.
Okay.
They really give you a thing.
There's no expense.
So this is what you're up to in Creme City.
That was real?
That's you?
Three-point competition, Mr. B.
You were looking good, in the hoodie, perfect for him.
Yeah, I beat the man.
You and Paul George shared a moment.
You see the handshake you gave me?
Yeah.
Neighbor.
Neighbor.
Paul George showed you some love during the Sixers' Buck's game.
The Bucks lost that game.
We lost, yeah.
Bobby Portis also gave you some love while you were seated court side.
You stayed one more just for good measure.
Freaks.
They even let you fire off the hot, brat cannon.
Oh yeah.
You were living, bro.
You were living.
And as we come to respect whenever you pull up to a Bucs game.
Probably the best thing that happened to the Bucs, right?
The Johnsonville, Hot Brot Cannon, and that's come to expect.
Nah.
Yeah.
On the sideline.
I did get banned.
You got banned?
Yeah.
Milwaukee always embracing.
Here's a picture with you, Santa.
Oh yeah.
That was laid right there.
The Greent who stole blackness.
You even lit the city's Christmas tree with the mayor of Milwaukee.
Yeah.
Had yourself a week.
Can I say the same thing about the Milwaukee bucks though?
They've lost five straight game.
But Yon is missing the last three while recovering from a left groin strain.
He suffered in a loss to the who?
Leave the cat last week.
Hey man, you be y'all didn't have fucking fun.
For real.
I'd be working though.
I'll be having fun.
I still be working.
It makes me want to go try that in D.C.
No.
No, seriously.
You can't go to towels.
No, the NBA told me I had to like relax sitting courtside because I'll be talking.
Oh, did they give you that code of conduct?
That was just a warning exclusive for you.
It wasn't on every chair.
Yeah, yeah.
I got a warning because I was saying what's up to the reps and like saying what's up.
You know, when my foot hit that line, it was like, yo, you can't go.
Who gave you that warning?
You can't find no warning.
The NBA security.
30.
Okay.
Yeah.
So I had to chill out a little bit.
Next time I go, they'll probably let me sit there.
Okay.
Yeah, that's why.
They was like, yo, you gotta be a fan.
Mr. Biel, I said, Bucks lost five straight games, three without, the last three without
Yannis.
Yeah.
So for their third straight home lost money to the Blazers, 8 and 10, 11th in the Eastern Conference
right now.
What is the mood like in Milwaukee?
Got to find a way to get Yonis back.
He is like 90%, 95% of the team.
So without him.
95% of the team.
I mean, I mean.
I mean, no, seriously.
I mean, and then not having, you know, Kevin Porter, Jr., you know, Ryan Rawlitz, he's been doing this thing.
But, yeah, you know, we're just struggling right now.
You know, but when Yonis comes back, I know the move would change.
We're 11th right now, five games out of three or four spot.
You know, we're still struggling.
We need some rebounders.
So, yeah, man.
That's just the move.
Wait till 34 comes back.
Even with 34, the line up.
I mean, before he went down, I mean, before he went, well, I mean, we're five games out of third, four.
Get him back soon.
Once he comes back, we're going to get right back on track.
Your four games out of third place, four games.
Yeah, that's not third.
Here's easy conference, so.
So once he come back, we'll be all right.
Why don't you still got the other two brothers out there?
Who?
Who?
Two brothers, they sign?
Boy.
The one brother's in the Jeep.
You already established that shit.
Stop it.
The last name ended the quote.
Kevin Porter's not playing?
No, he's still hurt.
Ryan Rollins.
That's what.
Because I'm like, even without Yannis, you have enough to win games.
But you can't see a lot of people.
Like our rebounding is terrible.
We can't rebound.
Cousman got a rebound.
But even at the.
Cusman's been playing, I mean, it doesn't make a better.
The same spot, y'all play Toronto right now.
I got Milwaukee over Toronto for.
When we played Detroit, and I've seen that Thompson twins was guarding Ryan Rollins, how he's just picking up for, it's, it's going to be a struggle a little bit.
Because now teams without Yonis, you just come up and put them bigger guards on them.
Yeah, yeah, but that's like you need Porter.
Because Porter, he's the only creator that can really get a bucket.
Right.
So.
Depending on Kevin Porter?
Huh?
Depending on him?
No, I'm just saying, like, would it someone like Kevin Porter who is like hard to guard and skis?
against because how he plays the game and he can just create shots out of nothing.
Without him, you don't even have nobody who can do what?
You go to Kuzma?
We sagging on everybody.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Sag.
Kevin Porter, Sag.
Sag.
Sag.
Listen.
Yonis is playing with all shooters.
What happens when your star player goes down?
Who has to make better decisions?
The coach.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
The coach.
Mm-hmm.
It's up to the coach.
Oh, it's to win the games.
Now, you have to strategize, scheme,
you have to outthink the other side with what you have.
You have less, much less.
You said 95 to 90% of the offense and winning is dictated on Janus.
I mean, that's...
And he not there?
Okay, coach, what are we going to do now?
Who the fuck is going to be our guy?
Let's go back to the flex cut.
Let's get some easy buckets.
go back to the UCIL. Let's go back to
something that's going to get us
into easy offense, easy shots
where we can actually get offensive
rebound positions, run back in transition
defense, do the simple shit.
But we can't keep doing what we was doing
with 34 thinking that
Bobby Portis is going
to substitute him for this. No,
this is not going to work.
Doc Rivers getting paid all this fucking
money to fucking come
in here and watch the kids, go out here and just play
free fall, and then I take the blame for
shit. And just say, well, we don't got our
best player. Yeah, we fucking know that.
But you signed two of his brothers, and you
could sign some other motherfuckers
that could help you. In free agency, you didn't.
You're mad because Chris Middleton not there.
You're mad because of certain guys. Now, you lose
fucking Brooke Lopez.
We said nothing about Miles Turner.
Who he said, nothing about Miles Turner.
He was playing. He said, nothing about
Kyle Koolman supposed to be, like, what,
What's the fucking problem?
It's the fucking coach.
Miles Turner averaging 12 and 7.
Come back, it won't be the coach.
Who?
Miles Turner averaging 27.
Ooh.
Ain't that the same shit he was averaging before?
He got hurt.
He got hurt.
But like what kind of entry?
Who creates first game?
Without Kevin and Janus, who creates an offense?
Ryan Rollins right now.
That's who, I mean, that's the, I'm saying.
He's been playing good.
Take a year, guys.
This is the Gilles point.
Gil always said if Doc had
a fucking system to implement
which he never has
which he never has
this is the problem
right
yeah your main guy is your main guy we know that
he's been the main guy the guy has been
doing what he's supposed to
but there has been nothing in place
for as a team the corner
niggas as y'all called the others as
certain people call the road
whatever you want to classify the other guys as
there's nothing in place
for them where they're not used to having to go get their own shot or being in the position
to be comfortable to go get their own shot or being told only to shoot layups and threes
instead of play basketball, now you create robots.
So when you create robots, you need to go tell them what to do.
And there's no system in place to be told what to do.
So now you have losing basketball when that guy is not out there.
I think that's the biggest misconception in just basketball itself.
is the word system.
A system is not ever made for your best player
if he's a creator.
It's made for the team.
So the team itself can move around
and be a part of it
and your best player will find his way.
With the system or without the system,
Michael Jordan was Michael Jordan.
The triangle was for everybody else to be effective.
If not, Jordan's over there,
everybody else is focused on him
and they're going to have to spread out, right?
With a system that involves movement,
it keeps the defense moving
and then when time wind down
and Jordan has an advantage, it goes to him.
Same thing with Cobb.
Without the system,
Kobe's averaging 31, right?
The system just makes everybody else.
So when he wants to go one-on-one,
that guy goes back door. This guy flashes, he cuts.
Now you get that one-on-one.
So it's the same thing.
and a lot of teams don't, a lot of coaches don't understand.
You don't have to worry about Janus.
Janus does Janus, right?
The system is for everyone else to be functional
inside of Janus' world.
The system would help him as well.
Yeah, yeah, the system would help him.
It would help him play in the half court,
which he needs to be better at.
Do they make all the stars, oh, my bad.
Do they make all the stars be the system now?
In this era, like every star player becomes the system.
It revolves around them.
Yeah, they do everything from Joker's to the system.
Like Joke, Shade, Luke, like, Joelle.
They are the system, Joel and B.
Chicken rolls doing his hink.
But it's off of what they do.
Like with Yokic's, right?
Like, who's they point guard?
I mean, their system, in the sense, is a pick and roll.
Then Yoki gets it.
And then from there, everyone moves.
We got back door.
We got corner.
I play.
Like, it's all off of his, what he does well.
Late game.
And then, late game, what is a two-man game.
Two-man game.
Two-man game.
When the game's on the line, we're going to fold this.
Let's simplify it a little bit more, right?
Let's simplify it to a point where we talk about the Utah Jazz.
Jerry Sloan, 20 years straight system, right?
Let's just start with Stockton and Malone.
That system of the UCLA cut, pop back,
going to the pick and roll, down screen, come off, right?
Now, let's just say we thought that was just Stockton and Malone shit
until Darren Williams, Carlos Boozer came,
Carol Lincoln, O'Corp
They showed that this system
is a plug and play system
Jerry Sloan said, look, we're not changing shit
y'all motherfuckers run the
run to cross the baseline
we're going to do the picking pot with booze
booze you got your shit
you're going to be little Carl Malone
you're going to be little John Stockton
You got your third
and you know what happened to Jerry Sloan
get the fuck out of it
But what happened to Utah after that
The system disappeared
They stopped making it to the playoffs
Darren William said I ain't doing it
They stopped making it to the playoffs.
Darren Williams out of there.
Now ain't no more system.
Look at the Spurs.
That shit was effective.
The Spurs system.
He ain't like it.
I feel you, but he ain't 20 and 10 under it, but Darren Williams did like.
Both of them.
Yeah.
Regardless if he don't like it.
Whether you like it or not.
It was effective.
I mean, yeah, it was cool.
I mean, it was first round effective.
It's effective.
But it don't matter.
20 years straight.
It wasn't that effective.
We're 20 years straight in the playoffs.
That's not saying much.
It wasn't that effective.
A lot of people didn't ask the Lakers.
No, no, it was effective, but I'm saying it wasn't, I mean, in the 90s yet, but when Dan, it wasn't, it was 20 years straight of playoffs.
If that system was created today where you have a point guard like him and a diver like them with three shooters in today's game, that system would be hard to stop.
With a shooting four, man?
The problem, the problem with the system then is they didn't shoot, they wasn't great shooters in those times.
I know.
Right?
So John Stockton, then, he didn't, he didn't shoot.
They had average shooters and Brian Russell and Moore.
It was games in the playoffs where they didn't make a three.
No.
So that means the lane is compact.
Now think about if you do have those.
You run the same system.
Right?
They're kind of like door to the wing cut off.
Sons and 05.
Yeah.
That's what it looked like.
Sons and 05.
Just imagine that B.
Yeah, you say L.A. cut off down,
going to go set across screen for Yannis,
motherfucking flashing that bitch real bitch.
Man, wide open.
And you motherfucker got a shooter coming off the door.
Coming off the down.
That down screen.
Huh?
The way they shoot the ball?
Rollins over there.
Rollins can shoot it.
Come down.
The niggas crossed on the baseline.
Yon is the first one down.
The niggas, duck in.
In the middle.
Right in the middle.
You jump that bitch down.
He's dunking that bitch every time.
He's more athletic than Carmel.
And that's shit.
Defense has to adjust.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Defenses have to adjust to all of them.
There's too much movement.
What we want to see him develop more?
Elbow pop, right?
Come off.
They run that pig roll.
He popped to the elbow.
Shoot that big.
There's a no brain to throw it to him.
Better shoot it.
Who could do that on Milwaukee right now?
You can teach them right now.
This is a system, Nick.
I mean, yeah, I mean, because everybody can do it.
You can have Ryan, like, they don't do it.
Miles Bridges don't grow.
Miles Turner.
No, he's talking about no.
So they had a five, they had OSSA tag.
Listen, they had OSSA tag out there.
They had stiffs out there that played the five and that shit still was a
But even move, move past that.
Now, these men can shoot.
These men can shoot.
He can shoot.
O'Core and Carolenko.
Does it say O'Cour is Miles Turner.
Miles Turner is the picking pop, nigga, right?
Let's just say you put Bobby Portis as your boozer
right now because you don't have Yannis.
He can move around, he loves the post-up.
Bobby Portis, love post-up.
Rollins, you come off this screen with fucking Miles Turner
and you might have this wide-open V-cut for the UCLA cut.
You might not.
He popped.
Man, you turn around and set the back screen
for Miles Turner to come down or,
Bobby, no, now Miles Turner.
So Miles is going to set the screen for Riley.
You can run this.
So you set it for Bobby.
You run this for Bobby.
The back screen, the red.
Yeah, the back screen, the rip for Bobby.
Come down.
If you don't get it, you throw it up top.
Now you're in the picking roll.
You got Kuzma on the week's side.
AJ Green.
Kooz, AJ Green.
A.J. Green is the shooter in the weak side.
Go down and pin down for AJ Green.
So what did you run the UCLA cut, right?
So if Miles Turner is in that spot or Bobby Porter's, right?
They both, Bobby Porters can pick and post.
Yeah.
You run it, Bobby Porter set the side pick.
Either he going to get the ribs screen or he going to pop.
Yep.
You know Miles Turner is going to pop 90% of the time.
Miles Turner is going to pop so we know this.
So if he's in it, we run it a certain way.
And they're switching it.
We already.
You know it already.
The way they play defense, you know it all.
It works.
But if Doc has something similar, once in the got to run this thing.
Right, right.
But just something similar.
Something that they all know.
We're running this.
To get to it.
We're running this.
With three or four options.
Yeah.
With three, four.
obviously. Instead of every time down, we run the 7 to 77,
7 or 77, right? Yeah, double pick, yeah.
If you wanted to drag or double drag every time down. If John is not in the game,
it's the same look. We know we're going to claw the, we're going to make this,
we're going to make this guy. Sad on everybody. Right? We're going to play it this way.
But if you had anything in place, like, what else in Jersey? We want to do this.
We knew this. We had J. Kid pushing that bitch. I'm running, carry one wing,
Audrey won't ring. We're fucking running. Half court.
System.
System.
As much as we wanted to run.
We're running this.
We got counters for this.
If you've got to stop this.
Low post.
We started to counter that.
Low post.
How much?
What's out?
Basic.
Basic out reverse.
So we have things that we can get to.
The game.
They need a what's the name.
That team, when you look at it without Janus, I would put them in our old offense.
One 17.
Have a bunch of fours out, some chin looks.
looks.
Bobby in the middle.
Yeah.
Loop two.
Because one, they don't have to dribble and everything is just reacting.
Right?
Throw it to the mid post.
Y'all come off.
We see stuff.
So now you're looking like Janus without minimal.
I don't need to worry about you trying to create your own shot.
She says, all right, we're going forwards out, back door, forwards out double back.
If not, I got to reverse it.
When I reverse it, this top guy back door, right?
Come off the drum head, though.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
So it's where you throw it?
Huh?
Greed throw it to the above fucking joint, get the flare.
No, that's secondary offense.
No, it's a secondary offense.
Come down, we're running this.
It's automatic.
That's going to be a slow game.
No, that's what I'm saying.
They don't have Yonis now and they don't have really creators.
You still take the first shot and you still take the first shot.
I get what I get what you're saying.
That's like 80 points again.
No, but you can still take the first of bailout a shot, but you're getting to something.
But instead of coming down and just running pick and roll in the secondary break.
What they, everybody's secondary break.
Now, what they, everybody's secondary break right now is pick and roll drag.
Let's do it.
Right.
So instead of that, we come down with 17 seconds in the shot clock.
We're running this.
We not just drag it because we're coming down fast.
It's, now we go right into secondary break, bro.
What are we doing?
Pass it up, cut through, throw it up top.
It's like when they score and we're still running.
Pick it up.
Like I said, let's say you score and I, and I'm coming down.
I can see, I'm like, all right, four is out strong.
So that means if I have the ball and I'm giving it a canion, when he swings it and he goes off the big, it's that post, that first post.
Yep, first option.
It's the first option.
You throw it in.
Then we play after that.
Yep.
We cut off him.
Yeah, we cut off.
We see what you got.
What you got?
What you got?
You fell, go ahead with it.
Man, so it's like you kind of know it once we're running the break.
Yeah, we do that for us out, strong post double some shit.
I know I got the double coming for care on the week's side.
Just shit like that, man.
That's been my problem with coaching, though.
The modern day coaching is the, I feel like they're too lazy to implement systems
based on the speed of the game, the talent that they have.
You know what it is.
I understand.
No, no, no.
You know what it is, though?
I'm not saying that it's not that.
No, you know what it is though.
It is that.
It is that.
They're saying.
I'm not saying that it's not.
I'm not saying they can't.
I'm saying that the speed of the game and the influence of the Steph Curry era, shooting
the three, the whole warrior's, the whole warrior's blueprint right here.
Yeah.
shouldn't deter us from playing basketball, period.
And I think that's what's happened.
We don't have a secondary break
because we want to shoot threes. We want to space the floor.
We want to be five out. No post threat.
When you got a guy running the post and you can throw it in
and he can score it, cool. But now we're not even training guys
even be in the post no more. So there's no post threat.
Secondary break. If you're a coach, you should know that this is the
automatic first option for us as a team.
Star or no star?
We need an offense to run
That is going to be our engine
Our engine not just drag
Everybody I'm got the same player
Like you said drag that's why your system matters for your team
We go to play 2K right
They got a 2K playbook
They're like O Ks season
They got to do that
You got your own playbook
Your own playbook is going to be your lifeblood of your team
The Warriors I mean the Wizards had they fucking
Four was out
It's going to be a hard game
If we play against the Kings
same type of team.
But we go down here
and play against the Spurs.
Man, we got to deal
with how they do in the post.
It's Tim Duncan's shit.
We go play against Detroit.
It's a whole different game.
They're coming off pin downs
and floppy and all.
It's different.
You know,
you know, like Milwaukee Bucks will be a much better team.
No, it was.
Milwaukee Bucks would be a much better team
if they got Yannis off the ball.
They were trying, but they were trying.
They traveled.
The game team, that's wrong player.
No, but we came in for the junior.
But he's offensive.
No, you need somebody.
different, right?
When we got
Chansy in Denver with Mello
was a game change.
So Mello didn't bring the ball
up the floor as much
to initiate his own offense.
We know you're going to get chores, but let
somebody else initiate it so it's a different
look for the defense.
Are those guards still around?
You can
There's something out there, but
Dame wasn't...
No, no, not even China.
Dame wasn't the right fit.
Dane wasn't the right fit, I don't
think for him and Janice because of style of play.
Yeah, right.
I agree.
I agree with that.
Mello and Chonzie, both half-court players.
Janus is a fast break guy.
Dame is a half-court guy.
Wasn't going to work.
Russell Westbrook, Mello, same thing.
Russ is a fast-break guy, Mellow half-court guy.
Not going to work, right?
Janus needs somebody to...
Yonis, get ahead of the ball, what he's saying, right?
You can get the same look sometimes if you get.
get ahead of the ball, go down the early post up,
throw it in the early, they collapsed.
You kick it out for threes, right?
So instead of him bringing the ball up the floor
as much as he does, you get him off the floor,
you force him to run.
Now you give the defense a different look
that him coming down and everybody loading up
and him running over somebody.
Right?
So if they got somebody to
when times or not a run, you run, right?
Of course.
You get the rebate, you get a steel or something,
the defense ain't, they trotting back,
he was able to push it, cool.
If he's running up the floor, get it out,
the Anthony Carter pass, kick that motherfucker up
and let him do his thing.
But if he's bringing it up,
85% of the possessions that he's out there,
that's insane.
He's a thing.
He goes back to Communicating coaching.
A Tyrese hallibus.
Right?
Like something like that.
Like something like that.
Like a Tyrese hat fits his style of play.
Yeah, like that type of guard.
Tyrese fits his style of play.
You can't put him out there
with a Bronx and what or something.
Because that ain't what it is.
But this is what I'm saying?
But this is when people blame AAU,
this is the actual problem of AAU.
AAU of playing all the time, that's not the problem.
The problem with AAU is most teams are built on just pure talent, right?
Which means I'm shipping you here, here for games.
We don't know each other.
Just y'all go out there and play.
Five out.
Just run five out.
So none of these guys are growing up understanding, spacing, basic plays of basketball, right?
You got all these super talented kids who has a bag, who don't know how to use their bag and structure.
So when they get to that NBA level and coach starts running their play and their best player, this is number one, or number two pick, don't understand the concept of it, right?
I dribble at you.
What do you do?
I do that.
Give me the ball
Like you got back door
Like there's no like
Yo I dribble at you your back door
Right on while I spinning you back door
You come for the handoff
Because they don't know that
All the NBA did was say
You know what
I'm paying too much money for this kid
I'm not going to deter him
From playing this game
By putting a whole bunch of plays in
That he's not going to remember
So the easiest thing I can do
Is say all right look
Five out
If you have the ball
Big man running to a pick
Everybody fill the corners.
First, second pass, move after that.
That's what this offense is now.
And that's why the U.S.
The lost art.
Not only that, not on that, but the loss art of basketball right now,
let's talk Steph Curry, right?
What does Steph Curry know that all the other players in the NBA
or refuse to accept?
If I set a good screen, what the fuck is going to happen for me?
There's one coming for it.
You get the ball.
I'm going to be open, right?
If they're switching, I set a good screen.
Like what you just said about the AAU circuit is they don't teach,
hey, you set a good screen on this guy.
They're going to have to switch and do something.
You could be open.
He's going to be open.
We don't even really have to work as far as running plays.
But if you go down and set a good screen on the opponent
and your guy come off, run off the screen, right, set him up, run off,
all the fundamentals of basketball have been lost.
So wait.
Yeah, you got it.
That's what I'm saying.
The NBA, the coaches don't run no plays.
Because you know how they're in front of all that.
It's three games.
They run some.
They run some.
The players don't know how to move without the board.
They don't understand.
They don't know.
They don't know.
They don't understand it because of a high school.
They're in the corner.
Like, we came up.
If you watch high school basketball now, it's.
What they're doing is they're saying, all right, these guys are comfortable doing this.
That's what we're going to do.
What do they do in practice?
Five on.
510.
There's no such thing that's practice no more.
There's no training.
They have trainers.
They work on their game and that's it.
The Brian, dude, backdoor, cause.
Me, you just see all that.
That's what I'm trying to figure.
You're talking about someone who's been in from the beginning.
You're talking about a Euro player.
What I'm saying?
So you got...
That was Austin Reed.
What I'm saying?
So he's telling with the college first and how to play basketball.
So he's kind of like, these kids are just...
No, not these kids.
Those three men.
Those three men...
You have a 41-year-old.
You have a 41-year-old.
Four years?
What did you go?
Oh, okay.
He take the wrong stand at the wrong.
Oh, yeah.
We're not.
I've got that.
What did Braun say for sure?
In that video.
He said one thing that was very important.
What was?
Take five.
Okay.
This is my training cap.
I've never practiced with these guys.
To his point, it don't matter.
Meaning he's already playing.
He still ain't practiced with them because they don't practice.
It's just individual workouts.
So you're just working out by yourself.
But everybody's not the same.
Why, he's not the same.
I can't.
You can't help.
No, no, no, the whole NBA dumb.
I'm not calling the, no, the whole NBA dumb.
Okay, no, OKC is not.
We're calling them dumb.
I'm not, okay, C, okay, C, okay, C.
There's some teams that do that.
Okay, C plays one of them, but we can't say everybody.
Okay, C plays their game.
Denver plays two early 2000s basketball still.
Spurs still trying to figure out what they're doing.
But they still have a, they have a, they have a, but they have,
they don't know what they're doing.
They're sitting there trying to figure it out what works.
But a lot of teams are just playing five-out basketball.
They're playing free land.
It fits their team.
That's what I'm saying.
So that's why overall it kind of looks all the same.
That's what I'm saying.
Who's the best, go to state warriors, right?
Go to state warriors.
What are you saying?
I'm saying everybody don't do that.
No, that's what I'm not calling everybody dumb.
Like, yo, that's what I'm trying to say.
Well, we're saying that the league is getting laid.
Well, there is
that does that.
They dumped it down
for the players on their team.
Because they don't understand.
The league is called it to dumb.
The league.
How?
So what happens is this?
You have Golden State Warriors, right?
100%.
Golden State Warriors, right?
You literally have the three best shooters
damn near in history
on the same team.
They're taking 40, 503s a game.
Number one,
number two, and number four,
in the NBA on the chart, on one team.
Now, the following year, they win championships.
What does the rest of the league decide to do?
We need to figure out.
We need to shoot 53s.
Now you see the problem?
You see the problem with this?
Yeah.
The problem is you don't have
one, two, and four on your team.
That's why they say.
You have 100, 108, 356 on your team shooting 43s.
And you sued 40% from the three-point line.
You remember why Earl Watson got fired?
He said, hey, we need to shoot 43s the game.
He said, who's going to take them on my team?
I don't have 40.
I don't have players on my team that can shoot 43s.
So he didn't want to do it.
But you want me to take 43s at game, but I don't even have that personnel to do that.
And that's the problem with the NBA.
They see something.
I see this looks good, and I want to implement it.
But I don't even have, I don't have that talent here.
I don't have Clay here.
Joe Missoula.
Joe Missoula in Boston.
That's what I'm saying.
That's what I'm saying.
That whole, you know what?
Let's just fucking shoot good.
If it's a good shot, take it.
If you open, shoot it.
Look at Derek White.
You and I both complain about Derek White.
Why?
Why?
He thinks he's Clay Thompson.
Why does he think he's Clay Thompson?
because he had K.D. and Steph Curry on the floor,
which is Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown,
who's opening the floor for him to shoot wide open shots.
Now you don't got that.
Now you look crazy because you were shooting 63s
and y'all were making some missing some.
Your whole philosophy, too, hey, man, if they go in, they go in.
Tonight is not our night.
But they won with it, though.
They won with it, right?
But is that a formula for success or was that probability?
It's not a formula for success for everybody.
That's what I'm saying.
We're certain.
That's what I'm saying.
We're trying to say everybody's dumb.
Like, like.
We're saying you got to be dumb if you're all running the same offense.
And it's not working only for just two teams.
You've got to be dumb.
It's not done.
It's the teaching.
We're just not teaching.
No, they don't teach you.
What about Austin Reeves into this conversation?
We're also in school for four years.
You learned fundamentals, right?
Everybody in this conversation.
No, what I'm saying is, so think of a team that's like, let's say, Portland, right?
You're going into training camp and you try to put some plays in and all these athletic kids can't get the concept
What did they do to you if you couldn't get our play in training camp?
We're going to sit you on the bench.
You can't, right?
I wasn't about the start.
No what I'm saying is.
So they're sitting here like, you know what?
They're just playing.
They're too talented.
So what we're going to do is we're going to make it.
He's too good not to play.
So I'm not doing what we used to do to all that talent that we could have.
So what we're going to do now, Andre Blach, all this.
You know what? Let's just run up and down. Run, fill a lane. That's what they're doing now.
So they're saying, you know what, we're not even going to teach them all these.
We're going to put an out of bounds play, maybe a side out of bounds play.
Right? You know what I mean? And I'll draw some shit in timeout other than that.
Go stand in the corner. Just go stand in the corner. Wait for the back door.
And that's going to go out of the play here and there for the one they think.
You know what I mean? So like Kevin Porter, instead of sitting in the corner, and we're going to run some pick and roll.
We'll bite him up.
Right?
So he'll have his own little plays, right?
So he'll have his own little plays.
Was it, I don't know what they call it a pick and roll now.
That's not smart in itself, though.
So we're saying that's not smart being able to know when the back door without plays,
handoff when you're in trouble, trouble handoff to this corner, go back door.
We just see the Lakers did that take time.
That's the Lakers.
But we see OKC do that all the time.
But it's okay to.
It's structural.
It has no structure.
cutting through hand off to this man that's you're hoping something hoping for something
but you're talking about the elite teams but the elite team still has a playbook yes what they have
playbook right you have he don't have players that's what it no you do you have basketball players
on there they do have players they don't have a sport they don't have a smart basketball player
he ain't plays his game one he only played one game this year Kevin porter yeah he has a player
yeah he has a person that's not have the ball on their hand yeah okay Ryan
Ryan Holland's, whatever.
Wynne Hollins, but also
Ryan Rollins is still what?
This is first and second year.
He's been to least in 2020.
He's played like 81 games total entering the season.
The big and Kevin, not Kevin Porter, the other Porter, they're all big.
AJ Green, Fuzma, yeah.
You have a veteran team.
You have a veteran team where you're supposed to put in a race.
If you're going to sit up here.
You're going to sit on the couch, you have to either.
If you're going to sit on the couch, you have to either.
either watch the games or no you're making Ryan Wallace do everything he got to do everything
no he don't no he don't for all them no that only reason he's not a rookie the only reason
they look at him because he played a couple good games early so now you look at him to say
hey let's hope that you can continue this is this is his first time we're saying oh anthony over there
too no we're saying instead of having a ball in his hand they should have they should have it
offense they should have an offense that's what we're saying they should have an offense because
their best player isn't there who has the ball in his hand.
So they should be playing more like-
hearing the ball.
Like Denver.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's what they should be doing.
Not just, oh, let's just throw the ball around and see who get a shot.
That's weak as fuck.
And it's, it's lazy.
It's lazy coaching, bro.
I was just talking about in general,
because y'all was about to start talking about U.S. players is dumb.
I heard, he couldn't wait.
No, no, we said, no, we said the development.
No, we said the development.
We said, we beat him, too, we've been saying the development in Europe is.
It's always been better.
The development in Europe has always been better.
But, you know, soon.
Our, like.
When, though?
When with that?
As our corner is go out there and be the man out there, too.
They learn how to play basketball again.
No, the corner boys go out there and they get into a structure situation.
No, they get into a structure situation.
No.
Like Stanley Johnson?
Stanley Johnson played right now.
Nick, did you go over there?
All right.
Did you?
No.
Say the no together.
Use your vowels.
No.
Okay.
You went over there.
Yes.
So you had to integrate the system.
Was you the number one?
I had to be the number one option and integrate.
So when you went over there, right?
You had to integrate, bro.
When you went over there, was you number one soon when you went over there?
Did you have to learn how to play team ball?
No, it was a system.
It was a system.
You got to learn over there.
So when you come back, it's like, man, I'm used to going over there how they do.
They over there playing together.
They play together over there.
You basically joined in a triangle for you.
It has a system for you.
He was a Miami Heat catch and make something happen guy.
That's Miami Heat office.
He's the highest paid over there.
But he's in a structure, nigga.
I'm just saying.
I was ready for him to go overseas versus U.S.
Who couldn't wait for it.
All right, well, let's keep this thing moving.
We've got...
You don't know what the fuck you talk about, man.
None is a chapman over there.
That's a way in the structure, bro.
Oh, none, yeah, yeah.
But yeah, yeah, structure, though.
It's a structure over there.
He's not playing in China.
Like, he's going, yeah, China's just up and now.
He's not playing in China.
He's playing in Europe.
EuroLean.
Yeah.
Luca, Yokic.
Yeah.
All the guys play in structure.
Ricky Rubio.
Bro, they play college basketball as pros.
That's college shit.
You won't get to just come out.
The most you're going to average in a euro basket is $21.
He's a $1.
Maybe.
Maybe.
He couldn't do that.
Sebastian, you know, if that, if that.
19, 19, is elite.
Other than that, it's 15, 13, 11.
That's elite.
That's elite over there
How much none average out here?
None.
How are we getting
None play with the leg?
Before we close the show,
we got to talk about a situation
that went down in Philly
during the Magic Sixers
NBA Cup game.
We have the video for you to check out.
Curious to you and get your opinion.
So as you can see, 27 seconds left
in the first half.
Andre Drummond took on Window Carter's jersey.
It's left to a shoving match
with Drummond.
Wearing up with Carter.
Jayla Suggs stepped in. Push Carter also got into it with Jabbar Walker.
Suggs was ejected from the game in the first half. Desmond Bain also got a
attack. We have the close-up during the jersey tug, retugging.
Wait.
He's like, what? He said to do it.
Yeah.
What do you?
Oh, gentleman actually unwilling to throw hands and sacrifice.
Game check. So Suggs was asked about his intervention and ejection and said, in my opinion, squaring up is a little too crazy.
Who got pushed like that?
Number 33.
Magic went on to 40 pieces of Sixers.
Look at this.
Oh, look at that.
God damn, babe.
A little strong ass.
Knock him up with it.
He's our resident expert.
He didn't want started it.
See that here?
haircut right there when you're going bull right here and everything else like they don't care
looks like mumbles and huddler i hate that just get it all eating you know trying to poison
banana split what was you asking i don't know i just wanted to show the video okay thanksgiving
no you said as a fight with this man it's going like
I ain't seen a lot of fights.
I've seen a lot of fights.
You square up with your hands at your waist.
But we're like, dude, let's stop this shit, man.
That's Nick over there squaring up on your ass all episodes.
You motherfucker square up with your hand,
nigga, gonna punch you in your face, man.
You do this shit with your hands down.
Like, what fight in motion is this?
Like, what fight motion is that?
ball your fist up with your hands at you
and the other kid
when the carter didn't buy said do it
like
he wasn't buying it so
he didn't take him serious man
like it's just I'm going to get you
sucker like dude you've got your
I'm going to just imagine
just hear me out right get you sucker so you
in certain situations
you ball your fist up
with certain people
they will punch you
that's just what
is with your hands at your waist you're going to get punched in your face with some people
that's just what it is that's why you picking shoes no yeah yeah what you're calculating
that's why you're picking shoes yeah you're like you're gonna get punched with your hands at your
waist man like Andre Drumman you ain't Luke it's yeah it's that's my type of fight no right
yeah the fake pushing yeah I'll tell you I'm with it thanks hey I'm gonna say you know
You don't want to know?
Everybody almost fights on this.
You know what I can see?
Like that shit is like-
I want to see that.
All the time they're like, oh.
You never trying to make somebody flinch?
Yeah.
Yeah.
You got him.
Dubby.
Yeah.
Hey.
I know all of those guys
did some shit on the camera.
I did it to Lanzo Morton during the game.
Like, you jumped at me flinch like a mug.
Yeah.
And it got kicked out the game.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But you was probably really, really wanting to fight.
No, I wasn't going to fight it.
That's the thing.
He got into somebody else.
And I came over and he turned towards me, so therefore, I flitched at you in this.
They used to be the shit.
That was like a fight.
No, no, when you flit that and they knew this.
Yeah, yeah, you won.
You won the fake fight?
Yeah, I won the fake fight.
I didn't.
You can't fight?
I did.
I did. I did. I didn't lift my fight.
I was like three of them.
Free of you can't fuck with me.
That's a little kid and shit, right?
You make somebody, I'm paranoid.
You hit him with the little kid's shit after the fact.
Flit at him, the niggas, do this.
Make somebody flinch like that, you gotta swing.
No, man, let's Andre Drammel do.
Put your hands, listen, you unball your fists, bruh.
I fight when you're necessary, man.
Unball your fist, man.
It's the NBA Cup, Mr. Ben Means.
I'm just saying, I'm just like, I'm just like,
What would have happened is?
It's cat fight.
It's hit him right in his chin.
why his hands like this.
His hands is down.
He's gonna get punched first.
No, what would I happen then?
Then we'd have looked at drumming like,
what's wrong with you, dog?
Yeah, you're trying to fuck out, right?
And you started, though.
You're pulling on in New Jersey.
You're turning around like, bro, get off me.
And then you bunch him for no reason.
You're going in there cool, like, oh, you're going to do this after.
I'm going on at home.
And then some going on.
You're good, sir.
You're good, bro.
Shit.
The only fan subscription.
That's what it be.
He got canceled, right?
He got canceled.
Randomly.
You missed all the videos gone and you don't know what to do.
This nigga biggest ever, right?
I'm in this.
He disappeared.
Yo, this is my thing, though, right?
Like 6-11, right?
I make a 611, 7 foot, right?
Why do this?
He got low.
Make yourself phone.
Like, what the fuck are you?
Low man wins.
No, make you seven feet with wingspan.
Nah, man.
Like, what the fuck are you doing?
What are you doing?
Drummond 611, Window Carter, 16.
That's right.
You know what I'm saying?
Why make yourself smaller?
He'd be playing a video game.
Unless you're playing on wrestling, nigger.
You're playing on M&A wrestling, nigger, doing jiu-jitsu or something.
Like, I get them low.
You're just being when you're playing motorcombe.
Yeah, you're getting low for it.
On that note, move.
Nick, what?
I get low like that, nigga, kick you right in your shit.
Move, nigg.
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I mean, it's nothing, it's a ref.
Like, yeah, it is, yeah.
We're getting teched.
Yeah, absolutely.
Double-tecked.
Like, we know a shit like,
he called a foul, he asked for the ball,
and you can throw it to the refs down there.
Yeah, or remember we used to spend the ball?
Yeah.
And the referees, go get it, and he, like, hit the piece.
Or, oh, that's petty.
I was great at this one on the free throw line,
the motherfucker ball bounced to you,
and they want you to hand it to them.
Oh, no.
Just keep letting the bounce.
Nick, brunt, don't even move.
Motherfucking ball,
that bitch can bounce.
Doot, do, do, do, do right here, nigga, I'll do this.
Remember that back at the day?
It's that petty shit.
Oh, they're going to give you a text for that shit, too.
Fucking knee went out.
I used to do it all the time.
He's like, all right, knee go out.
Shit, Johnson fired that motherfuckerball at spoon before that shit, listen.
I say, didn't Ronald do that?
Fire the bitch.
Oh, yeah, Ronald did fire the ball at somebody.
One time.
Yeah, no, that's shit like that.
I mean, yeah, there's words with the refs, though.
You can't be petty with them because they got the last say-so.
And they are very vindictive.
They definitely got the last say-so if they feel like they're being threatened.
Oh, I told the ref he had to go check a play.
If he was right, I owe him a mistake dinner.
That was petty?
Never gave it to him.
Fuck him.
Never gave it.
My baby, sister.
All right.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
He's going to be.
No, he ain't revving no more.
Okay, all right, all right.
You're good.
And I didn't give a fuck by text, really,
when we came in, the motherfuckers are $500.
So, yeah.
And for me to say, now, you lead them, like, petty shit,
you know, you gotta make it worth it.
Like.
Yeah, petty should be like, damn.
They ain't taking care of you?
At home?
Yeah, damn.
Oh, too.
Shit like that.
Your wife ain't doing her job, huh?
Yeah.
Why you're tripping today?
That's gonna get you at that.
I mean, we was in motherfucking gold and
State playing, nigga. Hayward Wargman.
The legend.
Man, he was out there, motherfucker.
Hey, were out there trying to act like he was still a player.
Man, listen, I talked to a crazy that man out there.
Did it hurt you guys to see players become reps?
Was that like them becoming the ops?
Yeah.
No, he's the right.
Yeah.
There's only two, it's only a handful.
I know, but not even that many.
You got Leon.
Heyward.
That was a lot.
Shit.
Damn, Nick, you are officiating now?
You know this life.
By that, right?
I mean.
Magic.
Yeah, Leon, Hayward.
They're petty, they petty.
The reps are more petty than the players can,
they got all there, they can be petted than any of us
any of the end of a day of a week.
I got kicked out the game for clapping.
My bad, I did, I got you on the next one.
That's their petty shit.
Don't tell me that shit.
No, call that one, motherfucker.
Yeah, that's they petty.
I got you on the next one.
No, don't call the next one, call that one.
You missed that one.
Call that one the one that you blatant, overlooked.
I missed it.
Tony brothers.
No, he's the pettiest.
You're ugly.
You're ugly.
You're the ugly motherfucker, boy.
He'll say whatever.
He'll say whatever.
He'll say that nightbrown.
He'll chop back at you, too.
He'll chop back.
He don't like it.
Hey, yo, why is it that we don't ever see refs?
I see them.
Like in all season.
At the rest.
They'd be at the restaurants.
Creeping with their own.
They'd be at, like, academy restaurants.
I mean, academies all the time.
I've never, I mean, of course, like,
I mean, yeah, but you just never see them.
Tony, brother.
Yeah, out.
I remember, they want to be home, boy, too.
The white was getting hit so bad, man.
I'm like, yo, Tony, call a file.
I ain't telling him put all those steroids in his body and do all the push-ups.
Shit, I thought he could handle it.
He's ain't do fire in the push-ups today.
Shit, let me see it.
That's like Tony, man.
That's what I don't.
That's what I don't.
That's a real conversation, though, Mike.
He got the little small-ass head, big-ass body looking like with the Mario brothers.
And I'm saying, like,
Now, you're throwing your own family.
I was like, no, that's what I swear to go.
You ain't say no small-ass head.
Tony is died.
Bobby, not, not, not, Tony liked that.
Tony, I can tell you, look at the mall, man.
Tony said, we were in dollars, dog.
I can tell you.
Yeah, I see you on the TV last night.
Why you do you that Cardassian girl like that, man?
I said, is that why I get no damn calls tonight, nigga?
What you're talking about?
I see you over there.
You're cheating on that girl, man.
You better stop that shit.
Oh, yeah, it's not your jurisdiction.
It's not your fucking jurisdiction.
Don't leave that shit alone.
We are at a basketball game.
Oh, they're going to say that.
They'll call NBA security on your ass, too.
They get escorted out the whole facility.
They will call NBA security.
I don't know where he got hit.
I want to leave.
But we call it everybody on me.
Ladies and gentlemen, we appreciate y'all for pulling up,
want to wish everybody out there.
We're not trying to get bread out like that anymore.
Who picked that question?
That's time to go.
Not I.
But next time, pick a better question, God damn it.
Can you wonder if I did pick the question.
She was terrible.
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