Gil's Arena - The Los Angeles Lakers Have The BEST BIG 3 In The NBA!

Episode Date: November 26, 2025

The Los Angeles Lakers Have The BEST BIG 3 In The NBA according to Gilbert Arenas as Gil & The Gil's Arena Crew react to the Lakers clinching their group in the NBA Cup with a big win over the Los Ang...eles Clippers and break down how Luka Doncic, LeBron James and Austin Reaves are all playing some of the best basketball of their careers to power one of the NBA's best teams. They then flip to the other side of the game to break down the Los Angeles Clippers who have lost 11 out of their last 13 games and debate if Kawhi Leonard, James Harden and the decaying Clippers need to push the panic button as they sink to the bottom of the NBA Standings without their 1st Round Pick. Next, they react to Chris Paul announcing his retirement as the Point God decided to hang it up after 21 NBA Seasons and debate where the Clipper legend ranks amongst NBA point guards before reacting to Dwyane Wade's take on the NBA Goat debate, telling fans that LeBron James was the best player he ever saw play while Michael Jordan was the greatest player he watched. Finally, Mr.B takes us through his recent trip to Milwaukee to update us on the state of the Bucks organization as they have stumbled after the injury to Giannis Antetokounmpo before the Gil's Arena Crew reacts to LaMelo Ball asking for a trade from the Charlotte Hornets and discuss if the highlight reel point guard could use a change of scenery after a tumultous start to his career. PLEASE give us a Like and Subscribe!! Today's Gil's Arena Crew : Gilbert Arenas, Josiah Johnson, Brandon Jennings, Kenyon Martin, Rashad McCants & Swaggy P Gil's Arena premieres every Wednesday & Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. Sign up for Underdog HERE with promo code GIL and play $5 to get $100 in bonus funds or bonus entries https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gi... For a limited time, visit AuraFrames.com and get $45 off Aura’s best-selling Carver Matframes - named #1 by Wirecutter - at https://on.auraframes.com/ARENA. Promo Code ARENA Use our code for 10% off your next SeatGeek order*: https://seatgeek.onelink.me/RrnK/ARENA10 Sponsored by SeatGeek. *Restrictions apply. Max $20 discount SUBSCRIBE:    / @thearena0   Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos!   / discord   Must be 18+ (19+ in AL, NE; 19+ in CO for some games; 21+ in AZ & MA) and present in a state where Underdog Fantasy operates. Terms apply. Concerned with your play? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit www.ncpgambling.org; NY: Call the 24/7 HOPEline at 1-877-8-HOPENY or Text HOPENY (467369) 2 Min Countdown 0:00:00 Show Start 0:01:58 Lakers Clinch NBA Cup Group With The League's Best Big 3 0:10:32 LeBron Gets Real On Working His Way Back Into The NBA 0:33:35 Lakers Have The Best BIG 3 In The NBA 0:37:31 Kris Dunn Goes At Luka 0:41:44 The Clippers Need To SMASH The Panic Button 0:45:05 Chris Paul Announces His Retirement 0:52:21 Mr. B Gives The Mood Of The Milwaukee Bucks 1:14:55 Is Doc Rivers To Blame For The Bucks Season 1:19:57 Jalen Suggs Runs At Drummond 1:50:21 MostlyFans 1:56:28 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome back to Gills Arena, presented by Underdog. Whoa, whoa! Glorious Wednesday here in the arena, very festive. Thanksgiving coming up soon. How everybody feeling? Good. Good. Good. I'll be thankful for.
Starting point is 00:00:15 The Lemon Daddy snake skin. Oh, yeah. I don't think. I usually don't get third options, but, you know. Well, debatable right now. When I got it, he was the second, so. Two B. I know.
Starting point is 00:00:28 Potentially. Right? So you got the... One C. The turkey. But this is Gills Arena presented by Underdog. Whoa, whoop. As always, we got the NBA and NBA 2K legend Gilbert Arena is here with us.
Starting point is 00:00:45 Rocking the turkey cap. We got NBA champion of the world's swaggy pig. Nick Young. Representing tough crowd and card carrying. card carrying country club member. We have Mr. B. Branden Genix. On this side of the couch, we got the distinguished gentleman from Oak Cliff,
Starting point is 00:01:09 former number one pick, Kenyon Martin in the building. What was that, anyway? Things going down at local Costco's, but... Oh, yeah, I can't go to Costco no more. I can go. You can. Well, we just better watch their mouth, that's all.
Starting point is 00:01:28 Yeah, that's all that. No, man, they called my wife out of the name at Costco. Nah, that's crazy. Yeah, not at Costco. I was millisecond away from being incarcerated on Thanksgiving. So, glad you are here with us. And last but not least, we have the man they call non-champion. Not no more?
Starting point is 00:01:50 Just Laker Larry. Laker Larry. The man they call Laker Larry, you are back with the Purple and Gold. Gold, NCAA champion of the world, Rashah McCants. Clipper Daryl, Laker Laird. I like Laker Larry more to Clipper Dilley. Before we get the show started, it is Thanksgiving tomorrow. So our very own, J.C., the Barber, is coming through
Starting point is 00:02:12 with some delicious Thanksgiving treats. Yeah. Those are new ones? Take one. Everybody pick one. My hand, man. Barber to the stars don't work. If you need a lineup, tape, or fail,
Starting point is 00:02:26 I don't know how I feel about the red rag, though, J.C. I'm just going to be honest. Gobble, gobble, gobble. No, no. I don't know, sir. What that is? Gobble, gobble, he's... No, thank you.
Starting point is 00:02:36 Always gay. It has reframed. You gotta do your neck like that. Stop, bro. Give up the neck. I make a cookie. Happy Thanksgiving to all who celebrate. Thank you, J.C.
Starting point is 00:02:50 It's Asian turkeys out there? They have turkey today. Oh. Oh. Well, we got a lot to get into. Here's what's cracking. And Gil. Hold on before you get to that.
Starting point is 00:03:02 Is this my, is this it? I'm sorry, man. Listen, I ain't mean to play defense like that. I ain't mean to shut you down to the point where you don't even want to play 2K no more. Come on, Cuavo. Come back to the game, man. You don't got to run a call of duty, man.
Starting point is 00:03:17 You don't have to run a call of duty, man. You can continue the 2K, you know, experience. I didn't know. know it's that serious so you know I'll back up I'll put one of my who don't have no defense on so you can score a little bit more you know what your team so okay yeah I tried to you know play with him today and he was like now he quit so yeah third motherfucker this week anyhow we got a lot to discuss here's what's cracking in gills arena today the Lakers clinch their NBA Cup group with a big
Starting point is 00:03:55 win over the Clippers. Does the purple and gold have the best big three in the league right now? LeBron, getting better every single game. Year 23, Lakers 3 and O, with LeBron to the lineup. Clippers have lost 11 of their last 13 games, currently 13th in the Western conference. Is it time to hit the panic button? And the bucks have lost five straight games in our 11th in the east are the Greek Freaks days in Milwaukee. Number, Mr. B, you were out in Milwaukee recently. You got to see firsthand was going down. We got a lot to discuss. But before we get into all that. As always, this show is brought to you by Underdog. If you're new to Underdog,
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Starting point is 00:04:45 Florida, California, and Texas. Support the show, claim your bonus, and start playing today with Code Gill. We're going to talk about it, Gil, but I had a chance to win some Big Bread last night. Austin Reed's betrayed me, couldn't get one rebound. It hurt. I lost $192. But it is what it did.
Starting point is 00:05:02 I won. He won money. He did. He put money up. Swaggy one with underdog. $5.00 is a lot of money doing this economy. All right. Go along.
Starting point is 00:05:09 $5 a lot? How much do you win? I could have got $192. I could have got $192. That's a reason. I want to get a rebound. Can I ask you a question? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:17 Please. No, I'm not talking to you. Oh. Yes, sir, sir. What's the point of playing? To try to win. A hundred, like, like.
Starting point is 00:05:24 What's the point of playing? The thrill of victory. That's not for five dollars. He put $5.5.5 to stick. Like, you better off saving your $5. Yeah. Like, you're better off pocketing your $5. Okay, you know dudes get smoked for $5.
Starting point is 00:05:43 You got to do it. So you better off pocketing it. Okay. That's what I'm saying. He got to do a crazy. He got about to $19. He was $193.37. Yeah, $190.99.
Starting point is 00:05:52 It was $2.00. It was two picks. Austin Reeves double, double, double, Hardin, 32.5 points in assist. Hardin did what he needed to do. Austin, he was 21 and 9. Joe, you take your kids to Finney's and that 192 gone.
Starting point is 00:06:04 That's two burgers or two fries and two apple juices. Manning out. Organic, though. Organic. But if you can't watch this show live with us on YouTube, we have audio version of it on Apple, Spotify, wherever you get ate it out, and out. So Lakers and
Starting point is 00:06:20 Clippers have been going opposite directions to start this season with the Purple gold exceeding expectations as the second best team in the West and the Clippers unction showing their age going two and ten in the last 12 games with Kauai out for the bulk of those with an ankle injury. Battle of LA added a new chapter Tuesday night as both teams met for the first time this season in NBA Cup group play with both looking to stay undefeated to come one step closer to advancing to the knockout round. Let's take a look at the highlights if we can please.
Starting point is 00:06:47 Luga Donchie came out on fire dropping 24 points in the first frame including five threes, slim Slovenian genus, Jesus put up 32 in the first half, finished with 43 points, 13 to 6, 9 rebounds. It was his fifth 40-point game this season. Luca had 4 40-point games total last season. Papad de Limon, Austin Reeves added 31 points and 9 rebounds. Reeves had scored 20 or more points in 13 to 14 games this season. And LeBron Ramon James Sr.
Starting point is 00:07:13 Scored 16 of his 25 points in the second half, along with six boards and six dimes. Lakers Big Three combined for 99 of the team's 135 points. So the Lakers entered the game as one of the worst three-point shooting teams in the league, but went 13 to 29, and this one good for 45% from deep. All five Clippers started are scored in double figures, led by James Hardin, who was fresh offsetting the clip's single-season scoring record with 55 against the Hornet Saturday. The Beard debuted his new Hardin' Tense, put up 29 points, nine assists, and five boards.
Starting point is 00:07:42 Chris Dunn added a season-high 19 points before getting ejected late in the fourth quarter. We'll have more on that later. And Kauai Linder put up 19 as well in 28 minutes of action. It was Kauai's second straight game. is returning from a right ankle and foot sprain. So the game was close through the first three quarters, but the Lakers outscored the Clippers, 3725 in the final frame,
Starting point is 00:08:01 with Brony coming through with the game-sealing assist to Drew Timmy, who got his first bucket as a member of the Purple and Gold. But look at that pass right there. Oh, my goodness. Look at the, I will say Lakers have the best NBA Cup court. Hey, yo. Visually stimulating. All right.
Starting point is 00:08:20 We see it. The Lakers got their fifth straight win, third straight, and NBA Cup play to clinch their group in a spot in the knockout round. So, good, we watched that game on playback, but I'll put it up to the rest of the couch. We were the biggest takeaways from the Lakers' NBA Cup group clinching win over the Clippers. Let's start with Lakers Larry. The most Laker-out person in the arena currently. I wasn't listening to what you're saying.
Starting point is 00:08:43 What you're saying? The biggest takeaways from the Lakers clinching their NBA Cup group with the win over the Clippers. They play well. It's hard to criticize, got to give him some praise. I was wrong about LeBron being able to fit in right away, three and no. First two games, like he says, slow. I think he talks about it being his training camp and finding a way to fit in with the group. Also being able to figure out how to keep his groove going while LeBron is out there.
Starting point is 00:09:21 I still think that the strength of schedule has gave them a lot of leeway to get their momentum going the way that it is now. They haven't really played anybody, but they've taken advantage of these games to create some momentum and team chemistry. Guys are playing with confidence. There's a lot of good things happening for the Lakers. A lot of good things happen for L.A., you know. Dodgers win, Rams winning.
Starting point is 00:09:50 Shit, I'm on Hinge, I'm winning, shit, we're in L.A., shit, I'm with L.A. I'm L.A. I'm Lakerie today. I ain't tripping. Shit, I'm with it. I like it. For now. You're back winning on Hinge? For now.
Starting point is 00:10:04 Okay. For now. Easy schedule? What's the strength of schedule like on Hinge right now? Better than a Laker? I'm undefeated right now. I'm undefeated. Six and O.
Starting point is 00:10:16 In the clutch. In the clutch. Laker, six and out of season leading the league. But when you look at this Lakers squad, 13 or 4, how do you feel about this new crew, LeBron, coming back, them advancing in the NBA Cup to the knockout round with a chance to be the only team in NBA history with two NBA Cup championships? So you didn't have to throw that shit in there? They do. I'm a man of fact and principle. All right.
Starting point is 00:10:40 No, to be where they are at this juncture without, I'm saying one of their better players. Luke are missing a couple of games, Austin Reeves holding it down while he was at. out 13 and 4. Yeah, trending up, the brunt, getting his feet up under him. I like him, and I was just telling Rashad a minute ago, I like him in a screening role, like, it's at the back screen and slip, makes the defense react because they have to respect that screen.
Starting point is 00:11:11 And you can see the clip was messed it up, he got a layup. So yeah, so you put him in a different role. It's a different look for them. for them. They were playing a certain way. I didn't, well, I didn't think that there were to be in an adjustment period because he did play the last year. He knows those guys' tendencies. He looked at himself as a smart basketball player, as does most people that's played on the team with him. So yeah, it was an easy transition in my eyes and for them to keep it going. Yeah. And this NBA man, once you
Starting point is 00:11:48 have chemistry and start to put it together that leads to win streaks we'll see if they continue but if they're doing they're supposed to work right now they balling that they are let's shift over this side mr b brandy jennings yeah car carrying country club member biggest takeaways from the lakers win over the clippers to clinch their NBA cup group uh i don't think it's just the win i just think overall everything since when brine was was down, Luca was down, Austin Reeves, he was hearing the wait for them. I mean, JJ Reddick, man. You know, everybody's playing together.
Starting point is 00:12:27 They look like they're having fun. You know, Bron coming back, Brown's going to be who he is. And it's just exciting to see the way L.A. is playing right now. They're playing exciting. They're playing together. And everybody's just stepping up. Like, so it's, like you say, LA.'s in a good place right now. Everybody's winning.
Starting point is 00:12:42 Lakers are, I think, 57 and 4 under J.J. Reddick when leading games after the third quarter. So you think it's a product of him holding him holding? guys accountable? Yes. Like direct correlation, like him not deviating, like making sure. Just like last year, how he was on guys. Same thing. They just had to get used to it.
Starting point is 00:12:57 Gotcha. Yeah. And then Austin Rees, he's just, you know, he's really going to that number. Confidence, man. And he figured this league once. It was those, it was those games in the beginning. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:10 But I think that stands true for a lot of guys. Once you figure this, like your position, right? Once you figure out what has been successful. successful for you and your confidence grows in that like that's and you figure out your peers like what okay I do this better than this person or I don't do that so so once you figure that part out I think in the league like yeah you will have success I believe then I think that's where he is in his growth and his maturation yeah had that 51 piece earlier in the season also dropped 40 this is 41 plus one for sure I like them I think, no, I think they got like some little OKC team bonding chemistry. I think that's what making all of them play better. Like you see, you know, they having fun out there on the court, even with Marcus Smart making shots in the corner. He being able to do him and, you know, nobody's looking over their shoulders.
Starting point is 00:14:11 Nobody is just look like they're jelling. And that brings confidence. And you wean out there, you know. When you know your teammates got your back, you're not about to, you know, be looked at a certain way. You don't feel comfortable taking a certain shot. The pressure, you got to make every shot you shoot. I feel like, you know, that will help LeBron, too, you know, coming back. When guys, it's getting along, then, Austin, he had an open layup and passed it out to LeBron
Starting point is 00:14:39 and was excited that, you know, he hit the shot. Like, he passed up a good shot for, I don't know if that's a better shot, but it was just a another good shot but they're just doing things like that you know Luca took over the first half could have had he might he might get close to 81 one of these days if they just let him go I thought he's going to have 30 in the first quarter but you know but nah they all they're just overall just playing well jelling hopefully to keep this going it's going to be hard to be for sure let me ask you a question that bench a little shaky so we all been like where so it's like your team right that you played on the Wizards
Starting point is 00:15:21 you had three guys average 20 we used to look at that and be like one of y'all not going like we got to shut one of y'all water off tonight do you think that's like that's not a thing anymore like they can just look at that bitch be like 27 he gonna get it 25 he gonna get it right most part man they pass too though they could pass too though I like that this turkey day. Y'all are goblin. Y'all are goblin. Y'all are goblin is Laker shit.
Starting point is 00:15:55 I love it. I feel good stuff. I mean, no, no, I feel this. The best, though. The best is a little sakey, though. I see that O'KC game. Chip City, God damn it, I told you all, it's Chip City. I said it from the beginning.
Starting point is 00:16:09 Easy killer. Chip, we're second. Oh, no, so I said, the bench, I said, that bitch is a little squeaky in that OKC game. And two. They only had 13 points left there. Not three, but two. No, I hear you, no, I'm just saying just the bench. First of all, first of all, I don't even know why you were over there,
Starting point is 00:16:24 speaking about our team. I'm just saying, the best. When we came to the bucks, no one showed up. It was like the bubble in there. Yeah, the way we beat on y'all. Was Janus win? Yes. He was out there.
Starting point is 00:16:37 We thought, we think. There was an Anna de Kupo. You know what I mean? You know what I mean? Joe, Joe, what did I say at the beginning of the season? This is 20, last year, 2026. This is the year. After the trade went down in favor of yours.
Starting point is 00:16:49 Hey, listen, L.A. itself, since COVID, has been on fire. We've done won some type of championship every year. I know Dodgers got it this year, but 2026 that's the late because that's when we win ours. Dodgers back to back. Every year, we don't put boot tass to the rest of the world. Mm-hmm. Yeah, COVID. That's us?
Starting point is 00:17:15 No, for sure. So would you say? So you're going to throw the Rams in there too there, right? No, Rams? Yeah, they won there. Dodgers won what we won the 2023. What are we winning in 20203? Because we're about to back.
Starting point is 00:17:28 What did we win in 2020? What do we win, Gil? The Cup. The NBA Cup. Bam! The hardest NBA Cup. In the NBA history to that point. Bam!
Starting point is 00:17:39 You win a sudden. That bitch's a little... You know what I mean? No, no. The bitch don't need to shoot. No, no. They don't need to shoot. They can come in something.
Starting point is 00:17:48 in there, drink a little water, come on there, play a little defense. Look at Jackson Hayes out there. DeAndre Aydon hurt right now. But he cool. I like Jackson. He's some lives catching those. Yeah, man. Like, our shooting percentage is bad because a lot of people who don't need to be chucking it up
Starting point is 00:18:01 there, they'll be chucking it up there. And it's hard. I thought that's what you want to. So you can. Not everybody. But which one is it? Do you want him to shoot it when they be aggressive when they come, shoot it, or you don't want them to shoot it?
Starting point is 00:18:14 Which one is it? I want them to have a thin when they shoot it. Meaning, I want them to have a thing. them when they do shoot it need to go in okay that's the only show no no that's not that's like a bitch is like that yeah you're shooting scared right are you man got one minute and got one shot up who brownie yeah yeah we weren't going to talk brony on the show the most selfish one too that was the one you know what you don't supposed to say but he's thinking about you know what this is the this is the cup NBA cup it's about points right now we're different
Starting point is 00:18:42 difference right yeah Ronnie the game stealing a sister drew tim yeah I'm about saying for him to assist and a shot attempt in one minute that was that was impressive right one minute at work he got one minute work he got one up
Starting point is 00:18:57 but I've been out there for longer and only got two up so we look good we look good we look good when we look good when we ain't looking good we are there doing some bullshit
Starting point is 00:19:08 no we only ain't look good no what I'm saying is like think about some of the shots we do take as a team it'd be some step back I'll take that No no that's what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:19:21 It'd be some step back You know But it's only what Not even Not even College Street to NBA 3 It's NBA 3 Damned at a half court
Starting point is 00:19:29 Most of 8 3 But it's only two people Doing that right Austin Reeves and Luke Okay But you gotta let them be able to do that Yeah you gotta live with that Don't tell them don't do that
Starting point is 00:19:37 You don't really like the Austin I like that I like that I don't like Threy's erratic 3 Did you like me because you don't shoot that I never had resist That you did I was on the team with you
Starting point is 00:19:45 Who told me don't shoot? At the end, when you wore number nine? No, I told myself, don't shoot, shit I couldn't make shit. The coach didn't tell me, have to tell me nothing. Tell you yourself. Talk who for a second, though. The Lakers really good or where the clip is really that bad? Both?
Starting point is 00:20:06 I don't know, we're second. Both things can exist. Lakers are good. You plan a 40-year-old, you plan a 37-year-old, another 37-year-old, a 36-year-old, a 30-year-old. five-year-old. What is Tyrone Lou doing? What is he better than that record indicate? What the fuck is he doing, man? I mean, we call it. Then you hear what
Starting point is 00:20:23 you hear what Kawase. Oh, we're going to dress that? Very frustrated with the lack of where are the guys that know who we're facing, what we're doing. Teams we need to be holding up on. Lakers hit shots though. Lakers hit shots last night. They hit big shots.
Starting point is 00:20:39 As they tend to do. Luca was hot. Okay. At what point you'd turn the water off? You can't. You can't. They've been trying to turn that water off since 2020. He ain't going to turn a little bit of water off. Kliper's been trying to turn that water off. When he had Paul George with him. Kauai's hands still dirty from planting trees and shit.
Starting point is 00:20:57 Okay. He don't know. He got to go put the sanitize on the fans. He can't just come back from planting trees to come out here and garden Luca. I ain't know. That's some shit you can just really do. Niggas, you got to go out there and stretch a little bit. You look a little stiff.
Starting point is 00:21:11 James looked good out there. James got his stride. He got his stride. He got his. He's tried. But the rest of them? I said before, so he's trying. The rest of them look crazy.
Starting point is 00:21:20 James is trying. Move at the same pace. James and Lucas slowly. Hey, James Hardin is trying. He is doing his part. The Lakers are number one in free throws, right? I believe so. They do a great job.
Starting point is 00:21:31 Like three years in a row. Being aggressive, being aggressive, getting to the line. Three years in a row. They know how to file. Drawing foul under the rule book. When Clippers was good last year, kind of like the same team, but Kauai was There isn't there.
Starting point is 00:21:46 Nora Powell, who's now with the Miami Heat, playing at an all-star level. They're traded for Bradley Bill and Bradley Bill ain't theory. Oh, signed Bradley Bill after he was bought out. They didn't trade him on the bio. He's out. He's out with a better replacement than Norman Powell. You have a chance to find Norman Powell. You know what it seems like sometimes too?
Starting point is 00:22:07 And it kind of happened with Luca early in the year, not having LeBron or stuff like that. The team James wins with is the talent is not here. It's usually mediocre and they can just, they're specialists. And I'm trying to think if there's too much talent that he has to defer so much from getting all these guys the ball on how he plays the game. Who? Wait, hold on, hold on, what, hey, who's, hey, who is Kobe Brown there?
Starting point is 00:22:38 What talent do you speak of? Two Kobe. Why Leonard? Okay, that's that. Collins. He don't play rarely. Collins. He ain't been playing. 34 minutes. Last night, but before that, go look at something. Yeah, okay. Like, who else? He ain't been playing like that.
Starting point is 00:22:52 He ain't been playing like that. He needs to put the Nick Batoon in. Just leave him in. He goes to him. Just leave him. Yeah, yeah. But that's who James. Just sit in that corner. Shoot. Yeah. I mean, Dun is out there. Dunn's out there. He don't shoot. Who? Done. The team with Colin. No, I think, I think, I think him and Kawhi seem, but they ain't the issue. No, Kauai, Zook, Kauai. Don't know, because Kauai probably looking like, man.
Starting point is 00:23:18 No, you know, Kauai is more of an I, I'm ISO type of player, right? And how James is, he's going to hold it, throw it, y'all just shoot it. And I think him and the Kauai, that one-on-one player, I think they're just not, they're not in sync. And Kauai Pai Pai feel like, give me the ball. This is my shit. I know. He gave him the ball. He's probably like, give me the ball and it's my shit.
Starting point is 00:23:40 And he's like, yeah, the rest of him. I just say it makes sense because if you think about James and the history of being on teams with secondary players. Not secondary. No. Oh, you go ahead. Go ahead. Other guys is on the team that can play. Like good guys?
Starting point is 00:23:53 Yeah. No, guys is equal. Like, or just. But secondary is Nick Baton, like he said. No, that somebody is. That's utility. He's a utility. Those are utility guys.
Starting point is 00:24:02 Somebody on his equal player. Somebody that needs, yeah, that need the ball. Yes. And I need to do my thing. Never worked. Never worked. Never worked. And it takes the ball out.
Starting point is 00:24:11 ball out of his hand that's why he always said I'm the system so he can show us 55 he could show us his little straw that he's getting without kawai what he did it's like like he's saying those guys are just i know i need you over there i need you over here like a rebound that shit i make it in lobby at the rip kit capella that team now it ain't go it ain't a winning formula to four championship shit but it's a winning formula get us to the playoffs to get us a winning record we can get some momentum and then we bring kawai back and we bring kawai back and we We're like, well, Kauai, what, 19? You need the ball.
Starting point is 00:24:44 And it's like, Kauaias like, ah. He's 20 in his first game, 19 to second. Hey, I need to massage that thing. I need my rhythm. I'm saying? Like, he's a rhythm. Get out for a white, though. When he was with Kauai, they was number one.
Starting point is 00:24:55 It's a rhythm. James and Chris. And Paul, Paul, Paul, Paul's a catch and shoot when he wants to. And those are two point guards. Those are two points. You're talking about, you're talking about, you're talking about, Kauai being a, but he's the only days off. That's the thing.
Starting point is 00:25:09 That's the thing. I'm saying, he's too. He's like, Paul's a... Paul can do both. Paul George can do both. He can come back here and near. Paul George can catch and shoot. Paul, if you throw it to him, he can go into it.
Starting point is 00:25:19 No, no, I'm talking about George, Paul. I mean, Paul George. Oh, when he was with the clipper... No. That's two point guards. He needs, like, my Paul George. It's no different than... But...
Starting point is 00:25:31 And with Braun and some of his shooting, his shooting guards, they need a certain type of secondary player. Right? You know, the ball stopper. Our Quran, right, when we try and Quran's like, okay, here, let me go ahead and it kind of freezes everything. That's what happens with them too. He needs more of the Clay Thompson or a guy who can do both. Like, I can catch a shoot or if you, if the ball comes to me, I can get it.
Starting point is 00:25:58 I can draw something up for you. I don't think it's always them to. At this stage, yeah, I think in this stage, I don't think James needs to be worrying about Kauau. Because he's soaking out. He has to. But you're so in and out and I'm getting my, it's like, it's like, bro, now you got like I got him on a road.
Starting point is 00:26:15 So, but, but I hear you, yes, but he's such a dominant figure when the ball, when he's out there, because he's really good. Like, it ain't like he'll slouch when he's out there. He's really good. So when the ball comes his way, you can't expect him to swing it to the next guy.
Starting point is 00:26:32 No, the ball comes his way. Listen, I got to, I. We lost the last 12 games. I did. But we got to go somewhere. We got to go somewhere else. But he ain't been playing, though. What's the determining factor?
Starting point is 00:26:42 When he's on the floor, what should be the determining factor to sway the game in the Clippers' favoring? What should be? His defense. Okay. It's been non-existent in the last three years. He can't move no more. Think about what I'm saying, though. Think about what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:26:58 Think about what I'm saying. They put him on Luca. No, they can't move him. Yeah. Fried chicken. But who's stopping Luca? Yeah, nobody's stopping Luca. What am I saying?
Starting point is 00:27:08 What am I saying specifically? If Kauai Leonard standard, when he's on the court, is not just offense where we're depending on you to get us a bucket. This is two-time NBA defense a player here. Man, we need you to at least get some stops for us. Slow him down. Don't stop him. I ain't saying turn his water off. Man, make that motherfucker slow down a little bit.
Starting point is 00:27:30 Turn it to cool. It's a motherfucker red hot. Turn it to cool. He got 20, what? He had 32 in the first half? 30 to the first. Bro, what are we doing? And Chris Dunn.
Starting point is 00:27:39 What's you here for? He's been average in 40. I'm just saying. Y'all got to look at it like this. Most active, strong, athletic, long arms, shooting guard that can defend Janine Brown, right? Yeah. It took him everything to keep Luca from averaging 30.
Starting point is 00:28:03 That's elite. Anything gunner that's going to that's going to get their ass towards you at this point. And he picked him up full court. Yeah, but that's what I'm saying? You're talking about it took all of that. Lou Dorrit making work. Those type of guys make them work. So the fact that you were older with your knees and your thigh problems here, you, you're 30 in the first quarter of that.
Starting point is 00:28:22 Hey, is he handicapped with the lineup now that we're saying we're only depending on him for offense? No, no, no, no, no. We're giving him a pass on defense, and you're only giving us 19. We got James out here. James was trying last night. I give him some credit. He was trying. To me, John Collins, whatever his name, he's one of those bigs that once you learned
Starting point is 00:28:48 how to shoot a little bit, you settled way too much. And he was out there. Brooke Lopez's ass, nigger. Yeah, two, three, pump, freaking step back threes. Oh, just go to the, yeah. They broke, Brooke Lopez, that's the NBA, man. But we're talking about what the clippers, though, they depend on him to be their third star.
Starting point is 00:29:05 That's what the problem is. You say that, it's like, damn, we're depending on these guys. to help James win. They've been in and out of lineup. He's been in a little. And then when they played through Zubok last year, him and James was the focal point. They played better last year when James was one
Starting point is 00:29:20 and Zubak was two. When Kauai was out, they played better. But now you insert Kauai full time. Well, not four time, but. Zubok is going to, listen, they're going to defer. The guys can say what they want to. You're going to defer to Kauai when he's out there.
Starting point is 00:29:35 That's just what it is. It's a natural instinct to defer to this guy. To defer to this guy when he's out because he's looked at as that. Just natural reaction. The Lakers. North Pounderner. I think it doesn't need to move on, man.
Starting point is 00:29:45 Who? I think the clubber needs to move on. Who? Five years ago, Nick. It's over. That was five years ago. That, yeah, there's too much in and out. I love it, though.
Starting point is 00:29:57 I love that the quivers is losing, right? I'm going to just be honest with you. All right. The fact that they were, they had them ranked two, Preseason Second and Who is they? Who the fuck is they?
Starting point is 00:30:14 The media. Whoever ranks, whoever ranks, they had them They had this team ranked second? No way. No way. No way. Not even on paper. Not even on paper.
Starting point is 00:30:27 This hell no. With a healthy koal with the team of Ross as suited. They had them ranked second. When? No. That was the discussion. See what they did? They would have never put it.
Starting point is 00:30:36 They looked good last year. Even in the playoffs, they were old. I told you what, A-A-R-P. Every game. Old. Never. You know, they didn't have a second. Five, six.
Starting point is 00:30:47 They had five, six. They had us eight. Creep in. Five, six. Did not have the Lakers'clock? No, not in the West, the NBA. You coming in. The whole, Bradley Bill.
Starting point is 00:30:56 The whole NBA. No way. You're not. You're coming in. You're going to be on revenge tour. That's disgusting. With just Bradley Bill. Chris Ball.
Starting point is 00:31:05 Then you move up to two? Lopez. John Collins came. And then John Collins came. But you lost North Carolina. And then they had a healthy Kauai. They figured this team was about to be, woo. Obviously it's not a healthy Kauai.
Starting point is 00:31:16 And they're looking, woo. Let's shift back to the Lakers, which was the winning team in this game. So LeBron looked a little rusty. His first two games in year 23, back to back wins against the Jazz at the crib and in Salt Lake City. So after the Lakers win Sunday, Brown had this to say about his first week back in action. Shit, like this week was kind of like my training camp for me. You know, to be honest. I didn't get an opportunity to practice the guys at all, you know, throughout camp, throughout the preseason.
Starting point is 00:31:41 So, you know, I'm still working my way back. So we had to actually zoom in on that video because Brown was in the towel. I didn't even allow him to put his draws on before doing that. But Bron has increased his scoring output in each his first three games. And so far in those three games, he's now averaging 18 points, nine assists, five rebounds, while shooting 53% from the field. So after catching some criticism for being a minus 13 on the court in the electric's first two wins, Brown was a plus 18 in the win
Starting point is 00:32:06 over the Clippers. What did you start with you? What are your impressions of LeBron after his first three games in the year 23? Anything. He went to the fucking plus minus, man. We went two games. He goes to the plus minus to talk about the four.
Starting point is 00:32:23 Can't just say nothing to it. Like if we just say, all right, okay, where are we going to rank him as 41-year-olds that ever played in his NBA? Very high. One? Oh, okay. that that right there should be able to stop all criticism
Starting point is 00:32:38 where do you rank him for his age in all of NBA there's 5,500 ever where do you rank him for being 41 or 40 or 39 that wherever you rank them at criticize it to whoever's behind them or in front of him because at this point listen we get it you don't like him right but the fact that this is what it sounds like with a great
Starting point is 00:33:05 I didn't know we criticized the greats like this I thought we just looked the other way like I didn't know I didn't know we this is what we did to plus minus got to go all the wind I just thought man look at 41 listen even even if he average if he gave us 10 to 12 we like that's good shit that's that's good
Starting point is 00:33:30 but the fact that he's out there actually contributing and it is an actual factor is very different. 18.95 seems like a pretty good style line for a soon to be playing right now. 18, 8. Say it again? 189 and 5. Didn't even have training camp and trained for the last month and a half. And what are they going to be?
Starting point is 00:33:48 With the sky out. In the season with like 203. And they considered a big three? I couldn't do this at 29. Fuck. I'm just being honest, man. Like we just got to be real life. be realistic of how we judge
Starting point is 00:34:04 and judging people, even if you don't like somebody. You still got to be at least some type of fair. You can't just say, I'm going to judge this 41-year-old to me. That's my best player who was 25. That's easy for people to hate. No, it's easy for them to hate. No, it's not easy for them to hate.
Starting point is 00:34:22 To be honest. You got a really, listen. No, over being honest. No, if over got an old motherfucker cooking your food and he out there shaking and shit. The totality of what we're talking about. It's easy for Tenderness. Tenderness. I don't want this.
Starting point is 00:34:34 Old, he ain't doing it. It's easy for him to say that shit, then to be honest, like, ain't nobody else dead what he's doing. But think about the hate, that means you see he scored and they won. You start looking for shit now. That's what I'm saying, it's not easy. You got it. We got it.
Starting point is 00:34:49 We got it. Yeah, look at it. He is perfect. Why is he on the court? He ain't perfect. Yeah. And that's that's all going through. You're going through, just picking out what you want,
Starting point is 00:34:59 so you can talk about it. That's what. when you, come off. Well, let's shift. It's amazing. LeBron doing his role in the Lakers Big Three. Yeah, that tenderness.
Starting point is 00:35:10 Fall off the bump. They start hating on that. They did. It's not even your place. You don't own the restaurant. Your restaurant. So it's going to take away from our tenderness. That don't mean the meat.
Starting point is 00:35:23 Shit, I just said, I owned it. I'm the face. Like Uncle Ben. But LeBron has made the Lakers Big Three hole. But we got to give a shout to other. crew, the exciting whites, Luca playing at an MVP level, Reeves on pace and make his first all-star game, slim Slovenian Jesus, 35 points, nine assists, nine rebounds, Papad de Limon, 28, seven assists and six rebounds.
Starting point is 00:35:45 When you look at this Lakers, big three, how dangerous is this crew right now? I think we 30 minutes in on the Lakers, 30 minutes straight. But we talked to Clippers for a good nine and a half minutes. Oh, go ahead. It was part of the Lakers talk. But it was a shift. It was a shift, though. There's a shift, though.
Starting point is 00:36:01 Go ahead. Go ahead. Continue. Our favorite city. Continue. You all leg it up. We figured. The whole this is just for the intro.
Starting point is 00:36:09 It was just for the intro. I do shit just for the end. I'm just in the whole game. Just for the intro. There was only three games last night. I got all my shit off in the early beginning. It was a very light NBA Cup schedule. I'm good with it.
Starting point is 00:36:22 Thanksgiving. We appreciate you. What was the question? How dangerous is this Lakers' big three in your opinion? I mean, it's a team thing. team thing I think they team they team dangerous I turned it off once and they got a certain amount of points I knew I was gonna have to come in here and listen to some shit like damn some exquisite high level basketball that no he was hoping oh oh I was about
Starting point is 00:36:44 the screenshot the motherfucker in the group chat said damn that niggins went to 25 and then 31 I said god damn man it's gonna be a hard day tomorrow damn yeah but they look they look they looked they looked the way y'all predicted them to look, you know, just hope they sustain it. I'm hoping they sustain it. That's all they can do. As long as they stay healthy. We know where Hope works at, though, Kay.
Starting point is 00:37:06 They gotta keep it winning. They gotta keep the winning. They gotta keep their winning. We know how the Lakers do. All right, so. Not this year, man. I'm gonna go on a limb here and I'm gonna say it. This is probably the best big three in regular season.
Starting point is 00:37:24 In the National Basketball Association? Right now? Ever. Ever? Ever. I think this three is better than the K.D. Katie? The Katie.
Starting point is 00:37:35 Clay? Yeah. Damn. Why? No, no, no, no, don't do that. Why? Tell us why. No, don't do that.
Starting point is 00:37:44 Tell us why. What was Katie in them average? 25, 26, 20. Where would you put? That's like saying, please. No, don't do that. I'm just saying, though. I'm just saying, look, you got stuff.
Starting point is 00:37:55 I just want to say it. Okay, okay. Don't do that. No, we got LeBron and we got, we got LeBron. Oh, LeBron. That was a young, Katie. Just run with it. You know, that feels.
Starting point is 00:38:09 Engagement. We just, we just, we just, we just pushing the narrative. We were doing a great job engagement farming on the Lakers previous to that comment. I'm just saying, I mean, I mean, they're not better than them at that, you know, at their height, but, I mean, they're a dangerous three. The reason I compare them now because those three didn't. They played in different realms, right? So they can jump in and out. They can play ice football.
Starting point is 00:38:33 They can play catch and shoot. They can play drive and kick. They can play pick and roll. They can play two-man game, three-man game with each other. So that was the reason that Katie Curry-Clay was so good because they all, they didn't affect each other's game. And that's rare. A lot of general managers don't understand how to put teams together.
Starting point is 00:38:56 They think names match versus the skill set. We've seen some lose their job as a result of that. So with this three, it's kind of like the same. You have scores, playmakers, shooters, right? You got dive, duck in guys. You got fast break guys. So, you know, if Lucas is playing the point and he wants to do the ping and roll,
Starting point is 00:39:15 you know, the Broncan spot up or backdoor slash, right? So you've got all the elements. So I think the three is going to be dangerous once they're going to see. So we asked the chat to the Lakers have the best big three in the NBA. 67% of the chat, non-biased from all over the world said yes they do one last thing in this game and then we'll move
Starting point is 00:39:34 on to the clipper side of things just a little bit more but there was a minor scuffle late in the fourth quarter involving Luca Donchick and Chris Dunn take a look at the video this was oh yeah oh yeah done dimed up for a buggy here to shop Luca don't move Rob Danny Slovenia Jesus crashed in the ground in front of LeBron
Starting point is 00:39:50 Luca stepped him Dunn shoved the ball yeah Jackson Hayes push him yeah look at Luke Dunn appeared to Slap Hayes on the cheek. Give an attack for the push. I'm just taking another look.
Starting point is 00:40:03 Now look at Lucas right here. Watch this. Yeah, you already got pushed. Let me go ahead, get my name. Go ahead, get it in, get it in, get it in. This be me when in the game looking. This is high level. Watch out.
Starting point is 00:40:15 More of a correct. Watch out. I ain't lying. So after the game, Luke had this to say about the scuffle and Hayes handling his lightweight. Yeah, I mean, everybody got each other's back. Everybody got each other's back on this team, you know, so I appreciate him. I'll pay his fine for sure, but that's just so what kind of team we are.
Starting point is 00:40:36 I'll pay the fine for show, for show, for show. He got it, seen that Bugatti yet. I thought his English would be a little bit better by now. I'm just me I'd be like, yeah, what the fuck is going on? Who are your mouth? Sound like Nick over there. Slobbing and shit. When that's a lava, niga.
Starting point is 00:41:03 Juicy mouthed. Lobervina. Juicy mouthed. They said you had to wear his mouth on the tea. That's crazy. That's the first time they ever got on these swimming together. The wetest mouth on the tent.
Starting point is 00:41:21 I agree. All right, well, let's shift off to the clipper side real quick. They came together on one thing. Juicy mounted. Clippers have lost 11 their last 13 games. My juicy mouth. Oldest team in the league, five and 13. Does Chris Don get suspended for that?
Starting point is 00:41:37 Where do you slap? I mean, I mean, he got pushes in the back. I don't know, man. Now you get fine. I think just fine. I'm just that. I mean, do they, no. Because he got put, well, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:41:47 I don't know where they're going to start. Do they consider that a punch? Huh? He said that a punch. Well, he did, well, open-hand. Put the thing in front of Lucas test, right? You're talking about the one Jackson Hayes. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:41:59 That's open-hand still, right? Yeah. He was, his hand was out, and he made contact with his face. I'm just wondering, with all they go, are they going to consider that a punch? Oh. Yeah, I don't know these rules now. I'm bad, I'm bad, my. The league don't consider that a punch.
Starting point is 00:42:11 Oh, not the job. Do you think they will? I don't think he should be suspended, but. I'm saying, I just not, but I just. Yeah, man, push you in the back to me. I think you should at least be able to... To the side. Pushed the ball in the man's face.
Starting point is 00:42:24 To the sides. That wasn't better. No matter. So the thing about, like, he started it, Jackson Hayes escalated it, and he swung at him. So I think, you know, that's just my personal opinion. I don't consider it. You know the best part about it? LeBron James.
Starting point is 00:42:45 LeBron, very strategic. Very boy that he goes, he went in there, that fine boy, that's, who! On the last year's going to do. Last year of my dad. He looked down and look at him like, yeah, nigger. So. Say, thank you. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 00:43:03 I want to get to the Clippers quickly, and Rash, I thought it was very concerning for that side of. Clippers have lost 11 in their last 13 games, 5 and 13, now 13th in the West. They're in the bottom third of the league in both offensive and defensive rating in 24th in that rating. Kauai played in his second straight game. after missing the previous 10 with a right ankle and foot spring and after the game he had this to say about his squad difference with this group where it's been such a struggle to kind of sustain some of the blows you guys have taken early just got to get the right lineups on the court I guess you know get some more talent play play with better talent and see what happens you say like get more talent is that like internally externally I'm saying like playing better like we all just got to play better make sure to correct this
Starting point is 00:43:51 We're trying to clean that shit up. Trust one another and just get better. Hey, good thing. Way to try to backtrack that thing, Kaua. Play with better talent. Hey, maybe we need to play with better talent. Play with different lineups on the floor, but we need better talent. That's what that man said.
Starting point is 00:44:13 Interesting choice of words there. But Ty Loo also has some interesting thoughts about the clippers dealing with injury and the next man up mentality. So Tyloo said, I know a lot of people say next man up But if your best player is making $60 million And your next man is making $400,000 It's not really the same
Starting point is 00:44:28 As a reminder, the Thunder currently own the Clippers 2026 draft pick They're taking shots like that They're going crazy The clip going clip going clip What happened? The Thunder owned the Clippers 2026 NBA draft pick
Starting point is 00:44:43 They get a fuck around and get a lottery pick niggie. No, that's not what he said We know what he said Yeah Basically if Kauai's go down And y'all said, next man up. That next man up takes 400,000. That's his talent.
Starting point is 00:44:56 We're missing a Bugatti. He's a Honda. So it's not a net. This ain't the same race. But they decided to do what? Get rid of a little Ferrari. Sold it to Miami. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:08 Picked up a little tricycle. Yeah. That motherfucker broke as soon as it got there. That's a huge. A little tink broke soon as it got there. Now you're talking about complaining about next man up, nigga. Yeah. That's the next man.
Starting point is 00:45:20 Your next man is right there. It's right. This is what you got. That's what you own it. You do this in a way. It's like, yeah, y'all take this. We'll deal with whatever. We're good.
Starting point is 00:45:31 Yeah, we got Bradley. We're good. Nah, he's talking about for himself. Hawaii's out. Batooning you up. Do you? Nah, it ain't Batoon. We're talking about like the Kobe.
Starting point is 00:45:41 The Brown. They heard of that name. Those are gnarred. That's a small fort. That's who's in for Kauai when Kauai was out. No. It's all of them, man. It's all.
Starting point is 00:45:51 Yeah, it's all. All three don't make the same amount. All right. Come on, man. Rock paper sessions. I want to go in. Come on, bro. Can't get rid of a little four.
Starting point is 00:46:01 We're talking about here. You get it. That part. Man, you make better decisions out here, man. Play with more talent. Woo. It ain't. That's what the man said.
Starting point is 00:46:11 That's what the man said. I paid this man, so you're like, man, I can't keep paying people. I can't keep making these things. I can't keep making these same. mistakes. I can't pay. He's going to come up with better tree companies. League's going to be down another black coach, man. What would they have to pay Powell? Make like a tree and get out of here. To keep them.
Starting point is 00:46:33 They signed him when he got there, didn't he? I think he had a couple. Let me see. Let me see. We're just making the Miami. I mean, it wasn't a trade, right? It was a free agent. He was a free agent. No. So Powell is one year left on the job. I think he's extension Elevate making 21 mill this season. He got traded. Yeah. He got traded. Yeah. For Collins? For Collins, yeah, in a package, yeah. Mm, nasty. Nasty workers, I say.
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Starting point is 00:48:12 Okay, y'all did? That was good. That was good. That was good. That was good. Good terrible. No clapping. It's good at Kauai.
Starting point is 00:48:25 It's good. You weren't even blinking. Randy Washington. I got a lazy eye. You don't just skip past that Kauai though? How about you feel if you as teammates, though? You got to ask you, I never been that position. That's your ass.
Starting point is 00:48:41 So how do you? I don't remember you. How do you feel? Huh? How do you feel? How do you feel? in Memphis and number nine on the Wizards. I was making $21 million.
Starting point is 00:48:53 I felt good. No, we didn't say more talent on the floor. We need more talent. Again, I was a high paid on the team, so whatever they said, it didn't matter to me. How about you, player? How'd you feel? When Dwight was like, man, we can't have Gil out there.
Starting point is 00:49:11 We need Turquilu. Uh, what? Jamer Nelson. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember that shit. Okay. We do have a... How did you feel when we was getting our ass whoop to Boston
Starting point is 00:49:23 and I came to the sideline? And I said, Motherfuckers ain't ready. They shouldn't be in the game. And then y'all got benched for a week. But the talent, y'all was losing already by 10... By 20. So the talent was already less when they was out there.
Starting point is 00:49:36 I don't know what I was that is how did you feel? You know how I felt. I felt like this ass nigger telling me that I'm ass when they losing by 20 And he's going to call me. You're going to call me out. That's how I felt. So that's why I feel about, I know they feel that way to about Kauai.
Starting point is 00:49:55 Play better. Get his ass cooked by 30, 30 in the first quarter. Play better. You're going to say we need better talent. They got nine points until a five minute left when he said, you know what? Let me try to get my average. All right, well, there you go. So we know how they feel.
Starting point is 00:50:14 One last clippers related subject. for this Thanksgiving week. We were supposed to talk about it yesterday, but we couldn't hit everything yesterday. So the end of the season will be the end of an era with Chris Paul officially announcing his retirement at the conclusion of his 21st season. So CB3 made the announcement via his social media
Starting point is 00:50:30 this weekend before the Clippers game at the Hornets. His final game in his home state with Charlotte just over an hour away from Paul's hometown of Winston-Salem. CB3 Future First Ballot Hall of Famer with an impressive resume. He was a Ricky the Year, 12-time, All-Star, 11-time, All-N-Bay selection 9.
Starting point is 00:50:45 nine time all defensive selection. Six times steals champ, five times assist champ. Also finished top five in MVP voting five times in his career. We'll finish his career. Second all time in both steals and assists behind John Stockton. Also has some legendary State Farm commercials playing both himself and his fictitious twin brother Cliff Paul. So CP3 picked the clippers for his final season where he's one of the architects with the Lob City era struggled to crack the rotation this year getting several DMPs unfortunately. But But when you look back at Chris Paul's career, what stands out the most to you all?
Starting point is 00:51:21 A lot of you guys played against him. Swaggy, you played with him for about a good 20 games. I think that was his first challenge. I remember he was coming into the drive, and he was in D.C. working out. And I remember the trainer, Eidon, text me and said, oh, you know, hey, you want to train right now with one of the rookies. You know, just give him a little, you know, bump before, you know, he said. he enters a drive, he's going to be a tight, he shouldn't be a top five pick. So that's your shit, all right, cool.
Starting point is 00:51:50 You know, working with him, what he was afraid of, I guess like any small guard, he thought he was too short for the NBA, couldn't get a shot off. So we planned one-on-one, and let's just say I had a rough day. It was one of those days where I was making a lot of excuses for myself, like, yeah, I'm just not in shape right now, you know. You know, so I went 0 and 21 from the ones. Every win one-on-one? No, he whooped my ass.
Starting point is 00:52:20 I've been down that goddamn court. No, no, I ain't a lot. In the fact that he was, like, really feisty, I was like, no, you're going to be fine. But I can tell you this, when regular season start, you're in trouble. And, you know, I let him have it during regular season. But just to see that fight in him and, you know, how he, you know, turned out. and lasted this long.
Starting point is 00:52:45 You can see it early in once. He was a very controlled PG and understood, you know, the game very well. So, you know, to see him retiring, you know, where he wants to, his way, you know, that's amazing for him. Well, let's shift over Mr. B, Mr. B, U.S. CP3. I've had some history with each other. Mm-hmm. Whoa. You got to be.
Starting point is 00:53:12 phrase that. What? It's one. He's on one. No, it's not. I'm not. I'm just saying it's not. You said with each other.
Starting point is 00:53:22 I only think only one. There is a lack of respect for me. No, I got it. But I don't think Chris Paul knew he seen it. So it's kind of, you know. Brandon Jane is the staple of basketball culture. No, I feel like Chris Paul is the last true point guard we'll ever have at that size. Just the way the game is playing.
Starting point is 00:53:42 Now, I know when I was growing up, that's how, you know, we were taught how to be a point guard like Chris Paul. So he is definitely the definition of a true point guard, and he's done it for a long time. Everywhere he's went, he's won. So, man, congratulations to him. And, yeah, I don't think we'll have another, like I said, we'll never see another small point guard at that size anymore, that dominant. I think that game, I think it's over for us. I have the ability to score, but, I mean, obviously facilitating with his hustle. I mean, it's true.
Starting point is 00:54:13 I mean, it's true, though, bro. I can't. I'm not going to, you know. You let it go, huh? You let that go, you know? I was just a little kid, you know, fuck him. You got you? He ain't got no ring, so it don't matter.
Starting point is 00:54:26 We all at the same table. Tell the story. No, let's go. Let's go. Let's go next. We'll go around. We'll go around. Let's go next. Let's go.
Starting point is 00:54:33 He said we all ain't got a ring, so. So it doesn't matter. We all sat at the same table. It's a, um, it's a special, a moment. You know, me and Chris used to be good friends, good friends. I used to be good friends with a lot of people now. People just don't like me anymore. But I got to see him grow from Cap of Magic, him and Ray Sean Terry, him being below six feet before he got his growth spurred. And coming into the draft, even before that Edon workout, worked out for Utah, seeing him do a
Starting point is 00:55:12 lot of things, you know, me, him, World Wide West. We all came up in the same circle. So CNCP go from Wake Forest to Hall of Fame, Point Guard, has been very special to witness, knowing that I was beside him at some point and seeing his trajectory go exactly the way we go as prodigies. As young kids coming up in the AAU circuit and having the expectation of our talents,
Starting point is 00:55:42 He's surpassed it. He's definitely one of the guys that overachieved. He definitely went above and beyond what people had placed on him. And he kept his eye on the prize. He didn't win a championship, but he still won it. There's winners and there's champions. You know, and Chris has always strives to be, you know, the best foundational point.
Starting point is 00:56:12 point guard that you can be, John Stockton type, you know, prototypical point guard. So for him to keep going and knowing that this is his limit and he can shut it down now, it's going to be difficult to not be able to win the championship for it, but I think he's done enough. Sometimes it's enough is enough. And I'm proud to see that he's done all that he's done and salute to him and his family, CJ, the whole crew over there. They know I got nothing be loved for him so congrats can you look back on CP3's career what comes the month oh just a fist competitor yeah he competes at all costs he wants to win he's been putting some unfortunate situations with injuries and different
Starting point is 00:57:00 things like that been on the other bad side of a of a trade that could have put him in a much better winning situation to bounce back from that and still land in a place where you have a chance to win. It says a lot about him as a player, his competitive nature. He makes people around him better, what you expect out of your point guard. He has always been, in my opinion, an underrated defender because of his competitive drive and takes things personal. People can say what they want to, he wasn't athletic, wasn't this, wasn't that, but what
Starting point is 00:57:41 he lacked in those areas he made up for. But yeah, so he's to Brandon's point, to Ashar's point. And yeah, he's going to, he is the last of that style of a point guard to win control the game and make sure
Starting point is 00:57:57 everybody got looks a solid shot every possession down. Yeah, I just I understand we all want to keep playing. I just wish he would like, how many, he played a lot. lot of game last year.
Starting point is 00:58:12 Like, go out on top. They played all 82 games. Yeah, like, go out. I just, like, go out on top. I get it, like, having D&Ps and all that shit, especially if it's unexpected, does something to you. But if it's talked about beforehand, you kind of still going to do something to you, but you don't, but for you to suit up that game and be like,
Starting point is 00:58:30 your name not called at first time, when you didn't, when you could have went out without the D&Ps on your resume and different things like that, I just want guys to look at it that, like in that manner. because being able to because he signed late right and kind of on the wall right so I just like go out on top
Starting point is 00:58:48 for some guys to be able to go out here I think he's he deserved that for what he gave to the game right to go out on top going on your own mayor still but having not D&Ps on your resume because of what
Starting point is 00:59:03 what you're lacking now because of the game and the position that you play so go out where you like here But it's still, of course, it's not a doubt about it. First ballot, Hall of Fame. All those things are in place. But go out on your, I want to just see him go out here instead of on this team. What Lord knows what they're going to finish in the West.
Starting point is 00:59:27 So that's not a, yeah. Yeah. That's when I leave swaggy. You and Chris Paul play 21 games together. You were 14 and 7 in those 21 games. Yeah, we were. You know, American King was on it? Yeah, we were.
Starting point is 00:59:43 Yeah, we were. Can't get my dog. Nah, one thing I just don't want Chris to have that not winning a championship lingering back of his mind because he had a great career for sure. One of the best PGs to play this game. One set the tone for people wanting to come to the Clippers, man. Live City was one of the... You were 24-17 with Chris Paul.
Starting point is 01:00:11 He was with us. He was with us. He came on then. He was there for him? Was I? I thought you was at first. I don't know. That's what I thought you was.
Starting point is 01:00:20 Okay. Now you played 21 games. Can you play 41 games? Yeah, that's okay. So he got traded? I got traded. I'm trying with it. I remember that.
Starting point is 01:00:30 Chris Paul was the first person to call me similar to Gil. But nah. Has first type of guy. Even when some of the balls come, Paul's kind of late, but you still, you know, Chris Paul, man, he changed the game. It's going to forever be a top, wherever you want to put them, a top five, top 10 PG's. It's always going to be in that category. To me, it's like the black John Stocking.
Starting point is 01:00:59 If he won. Do you put it on your trip? Oh, no, do we put it on the, do we put it on the black one or white? Or Brown, can I get one of those from my tree? Stalking, right? Yeah, what is his name? What is his name? I'm gonna put one of those stockers on my tree.
Starting point is 01:01:15 On the chimney. On the chimney. What is it? Stalking. I'm making sure you said stocking. Can I get my, can I get my praise to Chris Ball? Get this man a beer. Can I get my praise to Chris Ball?
Starting point is 01:01:27 It don't matter if he don't play, he got a DMP. He's getting this for real tour. You know, I've seen Kobe not get, he get DMPs not played. You know, Kobe didn't come to practice. He just came to games. He didn't play what he wanted to. That's the same name? This is not the same thing.
Starting point is 01:01:43 This is not the same thing, Nick. It doesn't have. He didn't be available to play. Everybody determined that. He knew determined when Chris Ball was getting it. I wouldn't retire if I didn't get this. And I feel like he deserved this. So it don't matter if he's getting a D&P or playing 30 minutes.
Starting point is 01:02:00 I feel like fans still want that last time seeing him in person, getting an autograph, getting able to get the shoe sign. I feel like he's going out the right way. What more can you ask for? He tried, he tried his best. He came up short. I'm thankful he was hurt game seven against us. I mean, game six and seven, because they was up.
Starting point is 01:02:23 They was up four, two. And he went out. Came back and won, so. I mean, three, two. You want to understand. I'm just asking. Fuck up clarifies or you can clarify. They can help you.
Starting point is 01:02:36 Let's all be back for two. Let's all be back for. It was over. Diggas, it was clarified. Three, two, and you know, he got hurt. He just came up short and saying, people that never went to the, you know, stop. It's not a personal sight, Nick.
Starting point is 01:02:49 I'm helping. Stop. There's no need for fucking clapback, nigga. It's calm them down. Is that the calm down? Calm down. Calm down. I'm about to get a calm down.
Starting point is 01:03:03 It's on the back. It's on the back. It's on the back. He is easy. Relax, Timmy. Relax, Timmy. He's got to rub his back. Relax, Timmy.
Starting point is 01:03:12 You got sloughing. The sloshing side. I'm like, dica. That's not correct, digger. I keep seeing downtown special. Yo, can I get a napkin, please? I get a napkin. Now, I know what you're just saying.
Starting point is 01:03:29 Last year would have been a great year for him, but I don't think he was playing on retirement. I understand that. So. retiring and you didn't get the... So me and T. Luke will have to have a conversation before the season then. Either you're going to play more or you're not. So what that was?
Starting point is 01:03:46 Hey, if you're going to play more you though. I want my farewell to it. Either you're going to play me or you're not. If he's saying no, what's going to do? No, if you're going to play? I'm still coming. I'm still playing. Hey, it goes into the ball.
Starting point is 01:03:57 It goes into the pub. It's a conversation thing. Don't embarrass me. He's not getting it. I don't feel that's embarrassing. The DNP? No. Yes, it is.
Starting point is 01:04:05 Can't play tonight. He's, he's. Well, tell me that. Tiring. Tell me that. I'm sure they told him that, though. I don't know. I said, I don't know that.
Starting point is 01:04:12 Like I said, for it to be an unexpected thing. Game in the game. That's the reason they did. For it to be an unexpected thing and you playing eight minutes, seven minutes. Like, that's, what is that doing? But him out there is just, it's doing what? It's doing what? That's my point I'm making.
Starting point is 01:04:28 Don't embarrass me. Don't make me look bad in these little minutes I'm getting. Either play me or don't play me. That's not. I'm going to have my farewell tour. If I play you, so that's what I'm going to have. That's not tightly.
Starting point is 01:04:42 I'm going to have my farewell tour at that position, dog. If it was a big, you can hide him a little bit. So, Kay, are you saying don't check in just the wave off? Like Vince and all, everybody else. Like, when you're checking at the end of the game?
Starting point is 01:04:58 That's at the end of the game, cool. End of the game. He's playing eight, nine minutes during the course of the game. Yeah. Or DMP. So if I give you a DMP, because we're trying to win the game are we not trying to win every game
Starting point is 01:05:11 if we're the clippers? If we're down 20 if we're down 20 I put CPS is for you to say goodbye or put down high right, it's for you to But that ain't the case though But that's not the case right now
Starting point is 01:05:21 That's why we So let's just say Yeah, four DMPs That's because we have eight minutes Let's just say they were closed games Those were the close games Those were the close games We don't know whether we're going to put you in
Starting point is 01:05:31 How are you embarrassed though? Why are you embarrassed though? And you told him you're retiring. Because I'm Chris. You just told him that. So this is his personal furrow to him. Yeah. So it's turning into it.
Starting point is 01:05:46 Because he's disannounced. Everybody knows. We don't know this for facts, right? We don't know this for sure. If Chris Paul come out game one to game, what they didn't, what they 17, 18 games in? 18 games. Had he played all 18 games 20-some minutes a night from game one, I don't think he'd be retired. He can't.
Starting point is 01:06:07 I don't think he'll be retired. He's on the wall. That's my personal opinion. I don't think he'll be retiring right now. Yeah, but who are he going to play? Listen, but five DMPs, play a game, the DMP, play two games, DMP. But that shit is. So now that's really like, man.
Starting point is 01:06:23 You're not taking into account what Tailu has to deal with now. I am. So if those 18 games, I'm playing you 20. That's what I'm saying. And we losing. That's what I'm saying. That was the conversation. And we losing.
Starting point is 01:06:33 Yes. It's like, we got to put him. over there. But he was out of the game for five of them six, seven, eight and nine and them losses they got he ain't played.
Starting point is 01:06:43 But you're saying me to switch my line up based on if I play him I said the conversation was, I said the conversation is to have before we play one game.
Starting point is 01:06:52 But we, I don't know me. I'm CP, I don't know if I'm ready I don't know if I'm ready retire or not. But you know if you're going to play me 20 minutes or not. The conversation is had when I signed with the clip,
Starting point is 01:07:03 I signed late. He was the last one to sign to sign the clip I'm not mistaken. It was the last one to sign, right? I think right before training camp. Right before training camps. That was the right.
Starting point is 01:07:11 Coming into it, so that's my point, the point I made when I said last year, you played all them games last year, that should have been, shit. I got, hey, I know I wanted to it, but it didn't happen. I wasn't be ready, but I played all 82. The phone don't ring in July. The phone don't ring in August. Actually, he signed with them in July, if I'm not mistaken. Really?
Starting point is 01:07:33 July 21st. Yeah. So he had the training count. He had everything. So he was expecting to play. Yes. So that's my thing. And if, is it, had a conversation between you a thing.
Starting point is 01:07:44 I signed early, am I going to play? Am I going to play or not? They projected number two because Chris Paul's coming off the bench for Jane Hart. To help fortify that bench. But CP3 wanted to be closer to family and son. Yeah. How would have had all the time to work? I'm saying, you could have had all the time in the world.
Starting point is 01:08:00 I'm saying, you could have a rally bill was there. But if you projected to play, right, beginning of the season. And we see you don't fit with what we're doing. Right now the NPs come. Because you don't fit. And we haven't actually had the conversation of you retiring, though. But what if we haven't had that conversation? That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:08:19 We haven't had that conversation. No, we haven't had that retirement conversation. This is all about how I see you fitting with our team. As a coach, yes. Is it good coaching? It's up for debate. Yeah. Up for debate.
Starting point is 01:08:33 But for CP, like you're saying, Is it embarrassing? I don't think so. I don't think so because it's based, but it's based on what T. Lou sees he can do for our team right now. I own the retirement thing. If it's a retirement thing with T. Lou and they had that conversation, I think he does it differently.
Starting point is 01:08:52 I think he does it. Right? Put him in at the end of the game. Yeah, I think he does it different. Put him in at the end of the game. Let him get his, his boughs and shit, let him get the game ball. And, yeah. But I think now at this point,
Starting point is 01:09:05 him saying it out with him saying it to T. Lou without saying it to T. Lou. But hey, yo, with these DMPs and shit. Hey, listen, you can cut that shit out now. That's my thing. I'm pretty sure they had it. That's my thing with it because we... Yeah, they... Well, I mean, I think this was...
Starting point is 01:09:21 This was going to be his last year, but came to your point, if he would have came out cooking, maybe he would have changed his mind a little bit. Or just playing out playing different. The team would have been 13 and 4. Yeah, a different record. Different record. 13 and 4. Now, instead of 4 and 13.
Starting point is 01:09:33 And he's playing good enough. I'm playing well. There's a team in the different conversation, is what I'm, in my opinion. He's contributing. He's contributing. But now you get D&P here. You play a game. You play seven minutes.
Starting point is 01:09:44 You get four DMPs. You play a game. You play 19 minutes. You come back, get two DMPs in a row. Then you play nine minutes. That shit. No. But you sign in the end of July, too, though.
Starting point is 01:09:54 Like, that's different for you, too. What the, you normally be the first one sign or not even in free agency. It ain't never been in free agency. That's what I'm saying. So that's different, that's the same trajectory of fucking D&P. You're signing after everybody else. But he didn't. So what are you saying?
Starting point is 01:10:11 He did. He signed July 21st. That's after everybody else. That's early. That's three weeks in to the Free Act history, but I'm saying it's not, no. Everybody was signed already, besides him and Westbrook. Fuck. By three weeks in, so you just, so three weeks in, everybody was signed.
Starting point is 01:10:27 All right. So three weeks in, everybody was signed. All right, you were right. You were right. You're right. You're irritated for no reason. You're right. No reason.
Starting point is 01:10:35 Thank you. We all agree with him. Listen, this nigga, listen. Y'all want to be talking to art with this niggins. This niggins, the niggins. The niggins, the niggins. He got fog going on. I never seen the motherfucker all.
Starting point is 01:10:48 Like, fog going on. I said it's my fucking opinion, nigger. It's my fucking opinion. You're right, bro. Shut the fuck up. It's my opinion. You just want to argue with a nigger for no reason. I said, it's my opinion.
Starting point is 01:11:02 You can have your opinion. You can have your opinion. I got my. Have it. Have it. Be respect to my opinion. No, why? Why?
Starting point is 01:11:10 You ain't respected nobody else's opinion. You just want to argue. You just want to argue with a nigga. You just want to argue with a nigga about this opinion. Save it. All right. Let's keep this moving. What makes the niggas talk about?
Starting point is 01:11:20 I said I got an opinion and I don't want to argue with you. You're right. You're right. Doesn't done it all. What makes it tough? I thought this was about Chris Paul. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, his farewell was supposed to take congratulations.
Starting point is 01:11:30 And the nigger want to argue your nigg's opinion. It's for real court. No, yeah. Congratulations. Chris Paul, congratulations again. Had an amazing career. Thank you, Chris Ball. For a real tour. Let's keep this day moving.
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Starting point is 01:12:06 Right, you're right. No, didn't nobody say shit about it. You're right. You just want to come in this bitch and argue. You're right. I know. I just want to argue. Yeah, for no reason.
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Starting point is 01:13:08 On the row with Mr. B. Okay. They really give you a thing. There's no expense. So this is what you're up to in Creme City. That was real? That's you? Three-point competition, Mr. B.
Starting point is 01:13:18 You were looking good, in the hoodie, perfect for him. Yeah, I beat the man. You and Paul George shared a moment. You see the handshake you gave me? Yeah. Neighbor. Neighbor. Paul George showed you some love during the Sixers' Buck's game.
Starting point is 01:13:32 The Bucks lost that game. We lost, yeah. Bobby Portis also gave you some love while you were seated court side. You stayed one more just for good measure. Freaks. They even let you fire off the hot, brat cannon. Oh yeah. You were living, bro.
Starting point is 01:13:48 You were living. And as we come to respect whenever you pull up to a Bucs game. Probably the best thing that happened to the Bucs, right? The Johnsonville, Hot Brot Cannon, and that's come to expect. Nah. Yeah. On the sideline. I did get banned.
Starting point is 01:14:05 You got banned? Yeah. Milwaukee always embracing. Here's a picture with you, Santa. Oh yeah. That was laid right there. The Greent who stole blackness. You even lit the city's Christmas tree with the mayor of Milwaukee.
Starting point is 01:14:17 Yeah. Had yourself a week. Can I say the same thing about the Milwaukee bucks though? They've lost five straight game. But Yon is missing the last three while recovering from a left groin strain. He suffered in a loss to the who? Leave the cat last week. Hey man, you be y'all didn't have fucking fun.
Starting point is 01:14:34 For real. I'd be working though. I'll be having fun. I still be working. It makes me want to go try that in D.C. No. No, seriously. You can't go to towels.
Starting point is 01:14:44 No, the NBA told me I had to like relax sitting courtside because I'll be talking. Oh, did they give you that code of conduct? That was just a warning exclusive for you. It wasn't on every chair. Yeah, yeah. I got a warning because I was saying what's up to the reps and like saying what's up. You know, when my foot hit that line, it was like, yo, you can't go. Who gave you that warning?
Starting point is 01:14:59 You can't find no warning. The NBA security. 30. Okay. Yeah. So I had to chill out a little bit. Next time I go, they'll probably let me sit there. Okay.
Starting point is 01:15:08 Yeah, that's why. They was like, yo, you gotta be a fan. Mr. Biel, I said, Bucks lost five straight games, three without, the last three without Yannis. Yeah. So for their third straight home lost money to the Blazers, 8 and 10, 11th in the Eastern Conference right now. What is the mood like in Milwaukee?
Starting point is 01:15:28 Got to find a way to get Yonis back. He is like 90%, 95% of the team. So without him. 95% of the team. I mean, I mean. I mean, no, seriously. I mean, and then not having, you know, Kevin Porter, Jr., you know, Ryan Rawlitz, he's been doing this thing. But, yeah, you know, we're just struggling right now.
Starting point is 01:15:47 You know, but when Yonis comes back, I know the move would change. We're 11th right now, five games out of three or four spot. You know, we're still struggling. We need some rebounders. So, yeah, man. That's just the move. Wait till 34 comes back. Even with 34, the line up.
Starting point is 01:16:07 I mean, before he went down, I mean, before he went, well, I mean, we're five games out of third, four. Get him back soon. Once he comes back, we're going to get right back on track. Your four games out of third place, four games. Yeah, that's not third. Here's easy conference, so. So once he come back, we'll be all right. Why don't you still got the other two brothers out there?
Starting point is 01:16:24 Who? Who? Two brothers, they sign? Boy. The one brother's in the Jeep. You already established that shit. Stop it. The last name ended the quote.
Starting point is 01:16:35 Kevin Porter's not playing? No, he's still hurt. Ryan Rollins. That's what. Because I'm like, even without Yannis, you have enough to win games. But you can't see a lot of people. Like our rebounding is terrible. We can't rebound.
Starting point is 01:16:48 Cousman got a rebound. But even at the. Cusman's been playing, I mean, it doesn't make a better. The same spot, y'all play Toronto right now. I got Milwaukee over Toronto for. When we played Detroit, and I've seen that Thompson twins was guarding Ryan Rollins, how he's just picking up for, it's, it's going to be a struggle a little bit. Because now teams without Yonis, you just come up and put them bigger guards on them. Yeah, yeah, but that's like you need Porter.
Starting point is 01:17:14 Because Porter, he's the only creator that can really get a bucket. Right. So. Depending on Kevin Porter? Huh? Depending on him? No, I'm just saying, like, would it someone like Kevin Porter who is like hard to guard and skis? against because how he plays the game and he can just create shots out of nothing.
Starting point is 01:17:34 Without him, you don't even have nobody who can do what? You go to Kuzma? We sagging on everybody. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Sag. Kevin Porter, Sag. Sag. Sag.
Starting point is 01:17:45 Listen. Yonis is playing with all shooters. What happens when your star player goes down? Who has to make better decisions? The coach. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. The coach.
Starting point is 01:17:57 Mm-hmm. It's up to the coach. Oh, it's to win the games. Now, you have to strategize, scheme, you have to outthink the other side with what you have. You have less, much less. You said 95 to 90% of the offense and winning is dictated on Janus. I mean, that's...
Starting point is 01:18:17 And he not there? Okay, coach, what are we going to do now? Who the fuck is going to be our guy? Let's go back to the flex cut. Let's get some easy buckets. go back to the UCIL. Let's go back to something that's going to get us into easy offense, easy shots
Starting point is 01:18:35 where we can actually get offensive rebound positions, run back in transition defense, do the simple shit. But we can't keep doing what we was doing with 34 thinking that Bobby Portis is going to substitute him for this. No, this is not going to work.
Starting point is 01:18:52 Doc Rivers getting paid all this fucking money to fucking come in here and watch the kids, go out here and just play free fall, and then I take the blame for shit. And just say, well, we don't got our best player. Yeah, we fucking know that. But you signed two of his brothers, and you could sign some other motherfuckers
Starting point is 01:19:11 that could help you. In free agency, you didn't. You're mad because Chris Middleton not there. You're mad because of certain guys. Now, you lose fucking Brooke Lopez. We said nothing about Miles Turner. Who he said, nothing about Miles Turner. He was playing. He said, nothing about Kyle Koolman supposed to be, like, what,
Starting point is 01:19:29 What's the fucking problem? It's the fucking coach. Miles Turner averaging 12 and 7. Come back, it won't be the coach. Who? Miles Turner averaging 27. Ooh. Ain't that the same shit he was averaging before?
Starting point is 01:19:44 He got hurt. He got hurt. But like what kind of entry? Who creates first game? Without Kevin and Janus, who creates an offense? Ryan Rollins right now. That's who, I mean, that's the, I'm saying. He's been playing good.
Starting point is 01:19:58 Take a year, guys. This is the Gilles point. Gil always said if Doc had a fucking system to implement which he never has which he never has this is the problem right
Starting point is 01:20:10 yeah your main guy is your main guy we know that he's been the main guy the guy has been doing what he's supposed to but there has been nothing in place for as a team the corner niggas as y'all called the others as certain people call the road whatever you want to classify the other guys as
Starting point is 01:20:28 there's nothing in place for them where they're not used to having to go get their own shot or being in the position to be comfortable to go get their own shot or being told only to shoot layups and threes instead of play basketball, now you create robots. So when you create robots, you need to go tell them what to do. And there's no system in place to be told what to do. So now you have losing basketball when that guy is not out there. I think that's the biggest misconception in just basketball itself.
Starting point is 01:20:59 is the word system. A system is not ever made for your best player if he's a creator. It's made for the team. So the team itself can move around and be a part of it and your best player will find his way. With the system or without the system,
Starting point is 01:21:20 Michael Jordan was Michael Jordan. The triangle was for everybody else to be effective. If not, Jordan's over there, everybody else is focused on him and they're going to have to spread out, right? With a system that involves movement, it keeps the defense moving and then when time wind down
Starting point is 01:21:38 and Jordan has an advantage, it goes to him. Same thing with Cobb. Without the system, Kobe's averaging 31, right? The system just makes everybody else. So when he wants to go one-on-one, that guy goes back door. This guy flashes, he cuts. Now you get that one-on-one.
Starting point is 01:21:57 So it's the same thing. and a lot of teams don't, a lot of coaches don't understand. You don't have to worry about Janus. Janus does Janus, right? The system is for everyone else to be functional inside of Janus' world. The system would help him as well. Yeah, yeah, the system would help him.
Starting point is 01:22:12 It would help him play in the half court, which he needs to be better at. Do they make all the stars, oh, my bad. Do they make all the stars be the system now? In this era, like every star player becomes the system. It revolves around them. Yeah, they do everything from Joker's to the system. Like Joke, Shade, Luke, like, Joelle.
Starting point is 01:22:31 They are the system, Joel and B. Chicken rolls doing his hink. But it's off of what they do. Like with Yokic's, right? Like, who's they point guard? I mean, their system, in the sense, is a pick and roll. Then Yoki gets it. And then from there, everyone moves.
Starting point is 01:22:46 We got back door. We got corner. I play. Like, it's all off of his, what he does well. Late game. And then, late game, what is a two-man game. Two-man game. Two-man game.
Starting point is 01:22:57 When the game's on the line, we're going to fold this. Let's simplify it a little bit more, right? Let's simplify it to a point where we talk about the Utah Jazz. Jerry Sloan, 20 years straight system, right? Let's just start with Stockton and Malone. That system of the UCLA cut, pop back, going to the pick and roll, down screen, come off, right? Now, let's just say we thought that was just Stockton and Malone shit
Starting point is 01:23:22 until Darren Williams, Carlos Boozer came, Carol Lincoln, O'Corp They showed that this system is a plug and play system Jerry Sloan said, look, we're not changing shit y'all motherfuckers run the run to cross the baseline we're going to do the picking pot with booze
Starting point is 01:23:39 booze you got your shit you're going to be little Carl Malone you're going to be little John Stockton You got your third and you know what happened to Jerry Sloan get the fuck out of it But what happened to Utah after that The system disappeared
Starting point is 01:23:51 They stopped making it to the playoffs Darren William said I ain't doing it They stopped making it to the playoffs. Darren Williams out of there. Now ain't no more system. Look at the Spurs. That shit was effective. The Spurs system.
Starting point is 01:24:02 He ain't like it. I feel you, but he ain't 20 and 10 under it, but Darren Williams did like. Both of them. Yeah. Regardless if he don't like it. Whether you like it or not. It was effective. I mean, yeah, it was cool.
Starting point is 01:24:12 I mean, it was first round effective. It's effective. But it don't matter. 20 years straight. It wasn't that effective. We're 20 years straight in the playoffs. That's not saying much. It wasn't that effective.
Starting point is 01:24:21 A lot of people didn't ask the Lakers. No, no, it was effective, but I'm saying it wasn't, I mean, in the 90s yet, but when Dan, it wasn't, it was 20 years straight of playoffs. If that system was created today where you have a point guard like him and a diver like them with three shooters in today's game, that system would be hard to stop. With a shooting four, man? The problem, the problem with the system then is they didn't shoot, they wasn't great shooters in those times. I know. Right? So John Stockton, then, he didn't, he didn't shoot.
Starting point is 01:24:52 They had average shooters and Brian Russell and Moore. It was games in the playoffs where they didn't make a three. No. So that means the lane is compact. Now think about if you do have those. You run the same system. Right? They're kind of like door to the wing cut off.
Starting point is 01:25:07 Sons and 05. Yeah. That's what it looked like. Sons and 05. Just imagine that B. Yeah, you say L.A. cut off down, going to go set across screen for Yannis, motherfucking flashing that bitch real bitch.
Starting point is 01:25:19 Man, wide open. And you motherfucker got a shooter coming off the door. Coming off the down. That down screen. Huh? The way they shoot the ball? Rollins over there. Rollins can shoot it.
Starting point is 01:25:27 Come down. The niggas crossed on the baseline. Yon is the first one down. The niggas, duck in. In the middle. Right in the middle. You jump that bitch down. He's dunking that bitch every time.
Starting point is 01:25:35 He's more athletic than Carmel. And that's shit. Defense has to adjust. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Defenses have to adjust to all of them. There's too much movement. What we want to see him develop more? Elbow pop, right?
Starting point is 01:25:46 Come off. They run that pig roll. He popped to the elbow. Shoot that big. There's a no brain to throw it to him. Better shoot it. Who could do that on Milwaukee right now? You can teach them right now.
Starting point is 01:25:55 This is a system, Nick. I mean, yeah, I mean, because everybody can do it. You can have Ryan, like, they don't do it. Miles Bridges don't grow. Miles Turner. No, he's talking about no. So they had a five, they had OSSA tag. Listen, they had OSSA tag out there.
Starting point is 01:26:09 They had stiffs out there that played the five and that shit still was a But even move, move past that. Now, these men can shoot. These men can shoot. He can shoot. O'Core and Carolenko. Does it say O'Cour is Miles Turner. Miles Turner is the picking pop, nigga, right?
Starting point is 01:26:24 Let's just say you put Bobby Portis as your boozer right now because you don't have Yannis. He can move around, he loves the post-up. Bobby Portis, love post-up. Rollins, you come off this screen with fucking Miles Turner and you might have this wide-open V-cut for the UCLA cut. You might not. He popped.
Starting point is 01:26:45 Man, you turn around and set the back screen for Miles Turner to come down or, Bobby, no, now Miles Turner. So Miles is going to set the screen for Riley. You can run this. So you set it for Bobby. You run this for Bobby. The back screen, the red.
Starting point is 01:26:58 Yeah, the back screen, the rip for Bobby. Come down. If you don't get it, you throw it up top. Now you're in the picking roll. You got Kuzma on the week's side. AJ Green. Kooz, AJ Green. A.J. Green is the shooter in the weak side.
Starting point is 01:27:09 Go down and pin down for AJ Green. So what did you run the UCLA cut, right? So if Miles Turner is in that spot or Bobby Porter's, right? They both, Bobby Porters can pick and post. Yeah. You run it, Bobby Porter set the side pick. Either he going to get the ribs screen or he going to pop. Yep.
Starting point is 01:27:26 You know Miles Turner is going to pop 90% of the time. Miles Turner is going to pop so we know this. So if he's in it, we run it a certain way. And they're switching it. We already. You know it already. The way they play defense, you know it all. It works.
Starting point is 01:27:41 But if Doc has something similar, once in the got to run this thing. Right, right. But just something similar. Something that they all know. We're running this. To get to it. We're running this. With three or four options.
Starting point is 01:27:50 Yeah. With three, four. obviously. Instead of every time down, we run the 7 to 77, 7 or 77, right? Yeah, double pick, yeah. If you wanted to drag or double drag every time down. If John is not in the game, it's the same look. We know we're going to claw the, we're going to make this, we're going to make this guy. Sad on everybody. Right? We're going to play it this way. But if you had anything in place, like, what else in Jersey? We want to do this.
Starting point is 01:28:14 We knew this. We had J. Kid pushing that bitch. I'm running, carry one wing, Audrey won't ring. We're fucking running. Half court. System. System. As much as we wanted to run. We're running this. We got counters for this. If you've got to stop this.
Starting point is 01:28:27 Low post. We started to counter that. Low post. How much? What's out? Basic. Basic out reverse. So we have things that we can get to.
Starting point is 01:28:36 The game. They need a what's the name. That team, when you look at it without Janus, I would put them in our old offense. One 17. Have a bunch of fours out, some chin looks. looks. Bobby in the middle. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:54 Loop two. Because one, they don't have to dribble and everything is just reacting. Right? Throw it to the mid post. Y'all come off. We see stuff. So now you're looking like Janus without minimal. I don't need to worry about you trying to create your own shot.
Starting point is 01:29:10 She says, all right, we're going forwards out, back door, forwards out double back. If not, I got to reverse it. When I reverse it, this top guy back door, right? Come off the drum head, though. Yeah. You know what I mean? So it's where you throw it? Huh?
Starting point is 01:29:21 Greed throw it to the above fucking joint, get the flare. No, that's secondary offense. No, it's a secondary offense. Come down, we're running this. It's automatic. That's going to be a slow game. No, that's what I'm saying. They don't have Yonis now and they don't have really creators.
Starting point is 01:29:35 You still take the first shot and you still take the first shot. I get what I get what you're saying. That's like 80 points again. No, but you can still take the first of bailout a shot, but you're getting to something. But instead of coming down and just running pick and roll in the secondary break. What they, everybody's secondary break. Now, what they, everybody's secondary break right now is pick and roll drag. Let's do it.
Starting point is 01:29:52 Right. So instead of that, we come down with 17 seconds in the shot clock. We're running this. We not just drag it because we're coming down fast. It's, now we go right into secondary break, bro. What are we doing? Pass it up, cut through, throw it up top. It's like when they score and we're still running.
Starting point is 01:30:10 Pick it up. Like I said, let's say you score and I, and I'm coming down. I can see, I'm like, all right, four is out strong. So that means if I have the ball and I'm giving it a canion, when he swings it and he goes off the big, it's that post, that first post. Yep, first option. It's the first option. You throw it in. Then we play after that.
Starting point is 01:30:28 Yep. We cut off him. Yeah, we cut off. We see what you got. What you got? What you got? You fell, go ahead with it. Man, so it's like you kind of know it once we're running the break.
Starting point is 01:30:37 Yeah, we do that for us out, strong post double some shit. I know I got the double coming for care on the week's side. Just shit like that, man. That's been my problem with coaching, though. The modern day coaching is the, I feel like they're too lazy to implement systems based on the speed of the game, the talent that they have. You know what it is. I understand.
Starting point is 01:30:58 No, no, no. You know what it is, though? I'm not saying that it's not that. No, you know what it is though. It is that. It is that. They're saying. I'm not saying that it's not.
Starting point is 01:31:06 I'm not saying they can't. I'm saying that the speed of the game and the influence of the Steph Curry era, shooting the three, the whole warrior's, the whole warrior's blueprint right here. Yeah. shouldn't deter us from playing basketball, period. And I think that's what's happened. We don't have a secondary break because we want to shoot threes. We want to space the floor.
Starting point is 01:31:27 We want to be five out. No post threat. When you got a guy running the post and you can throw it in and he can score it, cool. But now we're not even training guys even be in the post no more. So there's no post threat. Secondary break. If you're a coach, you should know that this is the automatic first option for us as a team. Star or no star? We need an offense to run
Starting point is 01:31:48 That is going to be our engine Our engine not just drag Everybody I'm got the same player Like you said drag that's why your system matters for your team We go to play 2K right They got a 2K playbook They're like O Ks season They got to do that
Starting point is 01:32:03 You got your own playbook Your own playbook is going to be your lifeblood of your team The Warriors I mean the Wizards had they fucking Four was out It's going to be a hard game If we play against the Kings same type of team. But we go down here
Starting point is 01:32:17 and play against the Spurs. Man, we got to deal with how they do in the post. It's Tim Duncan's shit. We go play against Detroit. It's a whole different game. They're coming off pin downs and floppy and all.
Starting point is 01:32:27 It's different. You know, you know, like Milwaukee Bucks will be a much better team. No, it was. Milwaukee Bucks would be a much better team if they got Yannis off the ball. They were trying, but they were trying. They traveled.
Starting point is 01:32:40 The game team, that's wrong player. No, but we came in for the junior. But he's offensive. No, you need somebody. different, right? When we got Chansy in Denver with Mello was a game change.
Starting point is 01:32:52 So Mello didn't bring the ball up the floor as much to initiate his own offense. We know you're going to get chores, but let somebody else initiate it so it's a different look for the defense. Are those guards still around? You can
Starting point is 01:33:07 There's something out there, but Dame wasn't... No, no, not even China. Dame wasn't the right fit. Dane wasn't the right fit, I don't think for him and Janice because of style of play. Yeah, right. I agree.
Starting point is 01:33:17 I agree with that. Mello and Chonzie, both half-court players. Janus is a fast break guy. Dame is a half-court guy. Wasn't going to work. Russell Westbrook, Mello, same thing. Russ is a fast-break guy, Mellow half-court guy. Not going to work, right?
Starting point is 01:33:36 Janus needs somebody to... Yonis, get ahead of the ball, what he's saying, right? You can get the same look sometimes if you get. get ahead of the ball, go down the early post up, throw it in the early, they collapsed. You kick it out for threes, right? So instead of him bringing the ball up the floor as much as he does, you get him off the floor,
Starting point is 01:33:54 you force him to run. Now you give the defense a different look that him coming down and everybody loading up and him running over somebody. Right? So if they got somebody to when times or not a run, you run, right? Of course.
Starting point is 01:34:11 You get the rebate, you get a steel or something, the defense ain't, they trotting back, he was able to push it, cool. If he's running up the floor, get it out, the Anthony Carter pass, kick that motherfucker up and let him do his thing. But if he's bringing it up, 85% of the possessions that he's out there,
Starting point is 01:34:26 that's insane. He's a thing. He goes back to Communicating coaching. A Tyrese hallibus. Right? Like something like that. Like something like that. Like a Tyrese hat fits his style of play.
Starting point is 01:34:38 Yeah, like that type of guard. Tyrese fits his style of play. You can't put him out there with a Bronx and what or something. Because that ain't what it is. But this is what I'm saying? But this is when people blame AAU, this is the actual problem of AAU.
Starting point is 01:34:55 AAU of playing all the time, that's not the problem. The problem with AAU is most teams are built on just pure talent, right? Which means I'm shipping you here, here for games. We don't know each other. Just y'all go out there and play. Five out. Just run five out. So none of these guys are growing up understanding, spacing, basic plays of basketball, right?
Starting point is 01:35:21 You got all these super talented kids who has a bag, who don't know how to use their bag and structure. So when they get to that NBA level and coach starts running their play and their best player, this is number one, or number two pick, don't understand the concept of it, right? I dribble at you. What do you do? I do that. Give me the ball Like you got back door Like there's no like
Starting point is 01:35:46 Yo I dribble at you your back door Right on while I spinning you back door You come for the handoff Because they don't know that All the NBA did was say You know what I'm paying too much money for this kid I'm not going to deter him
Starting point is 01:36:00 From playing this game By putting a whole bunch of plays in That he's not going to remember So the easiest thing I can do Is say all right look Five out If you have the ball Big man running to a pick
Starting point is 01:36:11 Everybody fill the corners. First, second pass, move after that. That's what this offense is now. And that's why the U.S. The lost art. Not only that, not on that, but the loss art of basketball right now, let's talk Steph Curry, right? What does Steph Curry know that all the other players in the NBA
Starting point is 01:36:30 or refuse to accept? If I set a good screen, what the fuck is going to happen for me? There's one coming for it. You get the ball. I'm going to be open, right? If they're switching, I set a good screen. Like what you just said about the AAU circuit is they don't teach, hey, you set a good screen on this guy.
Starting point is 01:36:50 They're going to have to switch and do something. You could be open. He's going to be open. We don't even really have to work as far as running plays. But if you go down and set a good screen on the opponent and your guy come off, run off the screen, right, set him up, run off, all the fundamentals of basketball have been lost. So wait.
Starting point is 01:37:10 Yeah, you got it. That's what I'm saying. The NBA, the coaches don't run no plays. Because you know how they're in front of all that. It's three games. They run some. They run some. The players don't know how to move without the board.
Starting point is 01:37:23 They don't understand. They don't know. They don't know. They don't understand it because of a high school. They're in the corner. Like, we came up. If you watch high school basketball now, it's. What they're doing is they're saying, all right, these guys are comfortable doing this.
Starting point is 01:37:37 That's what we're going to do. What do they do in practice? Five on. 510. There's no such thing that's practice no more. There's no training. They have trainers. They work on their game and that's it.
Starting point is 01:37:47 The Brian, dude, backdoor, cause. Me, you just see all that. That's what I'm trying to figure. You're talking about someone who's been in from the beginning. You're talking about a Euro player. What I'm saying? So you got... That was Austin Reed.
Starting point is 01:37:58 What I'm saying? So he's telling with the college first and how to play basketball. So he's kind of like, these kids are just... No, not these kids. Those three men. Those three men... You have a 41-year-old. You have a 41-year-old.
Starting point is 01:38:10 Four years? What did you go? Oh, okay. He take the wrong stand at the wrong. Oh, yeah. We're not. I've got that. What did Braun say for sure?
Starting point is 01:38:20 In that video. He said one thing that was very important. What was? Take five. Okay. This is my training cap. I've never practiced with these guys. To his point, it don't matter.
Starting point is 01:38:31 Meaning he's already playing. He still ain't practiced with them because they don't practice. It's just individual workouts. So you're just working out by yourself. But everybody's not the same. Why, he's not the same. I can't. You can't help.
Starting point is 01:38:42 No, no, no, the whole NBA dumb. I'm not calling the, no, the whole NBA dumb. Okay, no, OKC is not. We're calling them dumb. I'm not, okay, C, okay, C, okay, C. There's some teams that do that. Okay, C plays one of them, but we can't say everybody. Okay, C plays their game.
Starting point is 01:38:58 Denver plays two early 2000s basketball still. Spurs still trying to figure out what they're doing. But they still have a, they have a, they have a, but they have, they don't know what they're doing. They're sitting there trying to figure it out what works. But a lot of teams are just playing five-out basketball. They're playing free land. It fits their team.
Starting point is 01:39:18 That's what I'm saying. So that's why overall it kind of looks all the same. That's what I'm saying. Who's the best, go to state warriors, right? Go to state warriors. What are you saying? I'm saying everybody don't do that. No, that's what I'm not calling everybody dumb.
Starting point is 01:39:34 Like, yo, that's what I'm trying to say. Well, we're saying that the league is getting laid. Well, there is that does that. They dumped it down for the players on their team. Because they don't understand. The league is called it to dumb.
Starting point is 01:39:47 The league. How? So what happens is this? You have Golden State Warriors, right? 100%. Golden State Warriors, right? You literally have the three best shooters damn near in history
Starting point is 01:40:00 on the same team. They're taking 40, 503s a game. Number one, number two, and number four, in the NBA on the chart, on one team. Now, the following year, they win championships. What does the rest of the league decide to do? We need to figure out.
Starting point is 01:40:21 We need to shoot 53s. Now you see the problem? You see the problem with this? Yeah. The problem is you don't have one, two, and four on your team. That's why they say. You have 100, 108, 356 on your team shooting 43s.
Starting point is 01:40:39 And you sued 40% from the three-point line. You remember why Earl Watson got fired? He said, hey, we need to shoot 43s the game. He said, who's going to take them on my team? I don't have 40. I don't have players on my team that can shoot 43s. So he didn't want to do it. But you want me to take 43s at game, but I don't even have that personnel to do that.
Starting point is 01:41:06 And that's the problem with the NBA. They see something. I see this looks good, and I want to implement it. But I don't even have, I don't have that talent here. I don't have Clay here. Joe Missoula. Joe Missoula in Boston. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:41:20 That's what I'm saying. That whole, you know what? Let's just fucking shoot good. If it's a good shot, take it. If you open, shoot it. Look at Derek White. You and I both complain about Derek White. Why?
Starting point is 01:41:33 Why? He thinks he's Clay Thompson. Why does he think he's Clay Thompson? because he had K.D. and Steph Curry on the floor, which is Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown, who's opening the floor for him to shoot wide open shots. Now you don't got that. Now you look crazy because you were shooting 63s
Starting point is 01:41:52 and y'all were making some missing some. Your whole philosophy, too, hey, man, if they go in, they go in. Tonight is not our night. But they won with it, though. They won with it, right? But is that a formula for success or was that probability? It's not a formula for success for everybody. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:42:11 We're certain. That's what I'm saying. We're trying to say everybody's dumb. Like, like. We're saying you got to be dumb if you're all running the same offense. And it's not working only for just two teams. You've got to be dumb. It's not done.
Starting point is 01:42:24 It's the teaching. We're just not teaching. No, they don't teach you. What about Austin Reeves into this conversation? We're also in school for four years. You learned fundamentals, right? Everybody in this conversation. No, what I'm saying is, so think of a team that's like, let's say, Portland, right?
Starting point is 01:42:37 You're going into training camp and you try to put some plays in and all these athletic kids can't get the concept What did they do to you if you couldn't get our play in training camp? We're going to sit you on the bench. You can't, right? I wasn't about the start. No what I'm saying is. So they're sitting here like, you know what? They're just playing.
Starting point is 01:42:55 They're too talented. So what we're going to do is we're going to make it. He's too good not to play. So I'm not doing what we used to do to all that talent that we could have. So what we're going to do now, Andre Blach, all this. You know what? Let's just run up and down. Run, fill a lane. That's what they're doing now. So they're saying, you know what, we're not even going to teach them all these. We're going to put an out of bounds play, maybe a side out of bounds play.
Starting point is 01:43:18 Right? You know what I mean? And I'll draw some shit in timeout other than that. Go stand in the corner. Just go stand in the corner. Wait for the back door. And that's going to go out of the play here and there for the one they think. You know what I mean? So like Kevin Porter, instead of sitting in the corner, and we're going to run some pick and roll. We'll bite him up. Right? So he'll have his own little plays, right? So he'll have his own little plays.
Starting point is 01:43:42 Was it, I don't know what they call it a pick and roll now. That's not smart in itself, though. So we're saying that's not smart being able to know when the back door without plays, handoff when you're in trouble, trouble handoff to this corner, go back door. We just see the Lakers did that take time. That's the Lakers. But we see OKC do that all the time. But it's okay to.
Starting point is 01:44:03 It's structural. It has no structure. cutting through hand off to this man that's you're hoping something hoping for something but you're talking about the elite teams but the elite team still has a playbook yes what they have playbook right you have he don't have players that's what it no you do you have basketball players on there they do have players they don't have a sport they don't have a smart basketball player he ain't plays his game one he only played one game this year Kevin porter yeah he has a player yeah he has a person that's not have the ball on their hand yeah okay Ryan
Starting point is 01:44:36 Ryan Holland's, whatever. Wynne Hollins, but also Ryan Rollins is still what? This is first and second year. He's been to least in 2020. He's played like 81 games total entering the season. The big and Kevin, not Kevin Porter, the other Porter, they're all big. AJ Green, Fuzma, yeah.
Starting point is 01:44:54 You have a veteran team. You have a veteran team where you're supposed to put in a race. If you're going to sit up here. You're going to sit on the couch, you have to either. If you're going to sit on the couch, you have to either. either watch the games or no you're making Ryan Wallace do everything he got to do everything no he don't no he don't for all them no that only reason he's not a rookie the only reason they look at him because he played a couple good games early so now you look at him to say
Starting point is 01:45:22 hey let's hope that you can continue this is this is his first time we're saying oh anthony over there too no we're saying instead of having a ball in his hand they should have they should have it offense they should have an offense that's what we're saying they should have an offense because their best player isn't there who has the ball in his hand. So they should be playing more like- hearing the ball. Like Denver. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:45:43 That's what they should be doing. Not just, oh, let's just throw the ball around and see who get a shot. That's weak as fuck. And it's, it's lazy. It's lazy coaching, bro. I was just talking about in general, because y'all was about to start talking about U.S. players is dumb. I heard, he couldn't wait.
Starting point is 01:45:59 No, no, we said, no, we said the development. No, we said the development. We said, we beat him, too, we've been saying the development in Europe is. It's always been better. The development in Europe has always been better. But, you know, soon. Our, like. When, though?
Starting point is 01:46:11 When with that? As our corner is go out there and be the man out there, too. They learn how to play basketball again. No, the corner boys go out there and they get into a structure situation. No, they get into a structure situation. No. Like Stanley Johnson? Stanley Johnson played right now.
Starting point is 01:46:26 Nick, did you go over there? All right. Did you? No. Say the no together. Use your vowels. No. Okay.
Starting point is 01:46:35 You went over there. Yes. So you had to integrate the system. Was you the number one? I had to be the number one option and integrate. So when you went over there, right? You had to integrate, bro. When you went over there, was you number one soon when you went over there?
Starting point is 01:46:47 Did you have to learn how to play team ball? No, it was a system. It was a system. You got to learn over there. So when you come back, it's like, man, I'm used to going over there how they do. They over there playing together. They play together over there. You basically joined in a triangle for you.
Starting point is 01:47:03 It has a system for you. He was a Miami Heat catch and make something happen guy. That's Miami Heat office. He's the highest paid over there. But he's in a structure, nigga. I'm just saying. I was ready for him to go overseas versus U.S. Who couldn't wait for it.
Starting point is 01:47:20 All right, well, let's keep this thing moving. We've got... You don't know what the fuck you talk about, man. None is a chapman over there. That's a way in the structure, bro. Oh, none, yeah, yeah. But yeah, yeah, structure, though. It's a structure over there.
Starting point is 01:47:34 He's not playing in China. Like, he's going, yeah, China's just up and now. He's not playing in China. He's playing in Europe. EuroLean. Yeah. Luca, Yokic. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:43 All the guys play in structure. Ricky Rubio. Bro, they play college basketball as pros. That's college shit. You won't get to just come out. The most you're going to average in a euro basket is $21. He's a $1. Maybe.
Starting point is 01:47:55 Maybe. He couldn't do that. Sebastian, you know, if that, if that. 19, 19, is elite. Other than that, it's 15, 13, 11. That's elite. That's elite over there How much none average out here?
Starting point is 01:48:08 None. How are we getting None play with the leg? Before we close the show, we got to talk about a situation that went down in Philly during the Magic Sixers NBA Cup game.
Starting point is 01:48:19 We have the video for you to check out. Curious to you and get your opinion. So as you can see, 27 seconds left in the first half. Andre Drummond took on Window Carter's jersey. It's left to a shoving match with Drummond. Wearing up with Carter.
Starting point is 01:48:33 Jayla Suggs stepped in. Push Carter also got into it with Jabbar Walker. Suggs was ejected from the game in the first half. Desmond Bain also got a attack. We have the close-up during the jersey tug, retugging. Wait. He's like, what? He said to do it. Yeah. What do you? Oh, gentleman actually unwilling to throw hands and sacrifice.
Starting point is 01:49:03 Game check. So Suggs was asked about his intervention and ejection and said, in my opinion, squaring up is a little too crazy. Who got pushed like that? Number 33. Magic went on to 40 pieces of Sixers. Look at this. Oh, look at that. God damn, babe. A little strong ass.
Starting point is 01:49:28 Knock him up with it. He's our resident expert. He didn't want started it. See that here? haircut right there when you're going bull right here and everything else like they don't care looks like mumbles and huddler i hate that just get it all eating you know trying to poison banana split what was you asking i don't know i just wanted to show the video okay thanksgiving no you said as a fight with this man it's going like
Starting point is 01:50:03 I ain't seen a lot of fights. I've seen a lot of fights. You square up with your hands at your waist. But we're like, dude, let's stop this shit, man. That's Nick over there squaring up on your ass all episodes. You motherfucker square up with your hand, nigga, gonna punch you in your face, man. You do this shit with your hands down.
Starting point is 01:50:28 Like, what fight in motion is this? Like, what fight motion is that? ball your fist up with your hands at you and the other kid when the carter didn't buy said do it like he wasn't buying it so he didn't take him serious man
Starting point is 01:50:45 like it's just I'm going to get you sucker like dude you've got your I'm going to just imagine just hear me out right get you sucker so you in certain situations you ball your fist up with certain people they will punch you
Starting point is 01:51:01 that's just what is with your hands at your waist you're going to get punched in your face with some people that's just what it is that's why you picking shoes no yeah yeah what you're calculating that's why you're picking shoes yeah you're like you're gonna get punched with your hands at your waist man like Andre Drumman you ain't Luke it's yeah it's that's my type of fight no right yeah the fake pushing yeah I'll tell you I'm with it thanks hey I'm gonna say you know You don't want to know? Everybody almost fights on this.
Starting point is 01:51:38 You know what I can see? Like that shit is like- I want to see that. All the time they're like, oh. You never trying to make somebody flinch? Yeah. Yeah. You got him.
Starting point is 01:51:47 Dubby. Yeah. Hey. I know all of those guys did some shit on the camera. I did it to Lanzo Morton during the game. Like, you jumped at me flinch like a mug. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:51:59 And it got kicked out the game. Yeah. Yeah. But you was probably really, really wanting to fight. No, I wasn't going to fight it. That's the thing. He got into somebody else. And I came over and he turned towards me, so therefore, I flitched at you in this.
Starting point is 01:52:14 They used to be the shit. That was like a fight. No, no, when you flit that and they knew this. Yeah, yeah, you won. You won the fake fight? Yeah, I won the fake fight. I didn't. You can't fight?
Starting point is 01:52:29 I did. I did. I did. I didn't lift my fight. I was like three of them. Free of you can't fuck with me. That's a little kid and shit, right? You make somebody, I'm paranoid. You hit him with the little kid's shit after the fact. Flit at him, the niggas, do this.
Starting point is 01:52:43 Make somebody flinch like that, you gotta swing. No, man, let's Andre Drammel do. Put your hands, listen, you unball your fists, bruh. I fight when you're necessary, man. Unball your fist, man. It's the NBA Cup, Mr. Ben Means. I'm just saying, I'm just like, I'm just like, What would have happened is?
Starting point is 01:53:00 It's cat fight. It's hit him right in his chin. why his hands like this. His hands is down. He's gonna get punched first. No, what would I happen then? Then we'd have looked at drumming like, what's wrong with you, dog?
Starting point is 01:53:10 Yeah, you're trying to fuck out, right? And you started, though. You're pulling on in New Jersey. You're turning around like, bro, get off me. And then you bunch him for no reason. You're going in there cool, like, oh, you're going to do this after. I'm going on at home. And then some going on.
Starting point is 01:53:26 You're good, sir. You're good, bro. Shit. The only fan subscription. That's what it be. He got canceled, right? He got canceled. Randomly.
Starting point is 01:53:35 You missed all the videos gone and you don't know what to do. This nigga biggest ever, right? I'm in this. He disappeared. Yo, this is my thing, though, right? Like 6-11, right? I make a 611, 7 foot, right? Why do this?
Starting point is 01:53:52 He got low. Make yourself phone. Like, what the fuck are you? Low man wins. No, make you seven feet with wingspan. Nah, man. Like, what the fuck are you doing? What are you doing?
Starting point is 01:54:02 Drummond 611, Window Carter, 16. That's right. You know what I'm saying? Why make yourself smaller? He'd be playing a video game. Unless you're playing on wrestling, nigger. You're playing on M&A wrestling, nigger, doing jiu-jitsu or something. Like, I get them low.
Starting point is 01:54:15 You're just being when you're playing motorcombe. Yeah, you're getting low for it. On that note, move. Nick, what? I get low like that, nigga, kick you right in your shit. Move, nigg. On that now, let's move on to monthly fans. All right.
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Starting point is 01:54:54 What was the pettiest thing you've seen done to a ref? Pettyest thing you've seen done to a ref? pettiest to a rough what was the pettiest thing you've seen done to a rough from BBL
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Starting point is 01:55:22 so that's the wreck to that Pettius BBL gillill pill I mean, it's nothing, it's a ref. Like, yeah, it is, yeah. We're getting teched.
Starting point is 01:55:33 Yeah, absolutely. Double-tecked. Like, we know a shit like, he called a foul, he asked for the ball, and you can throw it to the refs down there. Yeah, or remember we used to spend the ball? Yeah. And the referees, go get it, and he, like, hit the piece.
Starting point is 01:55:48 Or, oh, that's petty. I was great at this one on the free throw line, the motherfucker ball bounced to you, and they want you to hand it to them. Oh, no. Just keep letting the bounce. Nick, brunt, don't even move. Motherfucking ball,
Starting point is 01:56:02 that bitch can bounce. Doot, do, do, do, do right here, nigga, I'll do this. Remember that back at the day? It's that petty shit. Oh, they're going to give you a text for that shit, too. Fucking knee went out. I used to do it all the time. He's like, all right, knee go out.
Starting point is 01:56:19 Shit, Johnson fired that motherfuckerball at spoon before that shit, listen. I say, didn't Ronald do that? Fire the bitch. Oh, yeah, Ronald did fire the ball at somebody. One time. Yeah, no, that's shit like that. I mean, yeah, there's words with the refs, though. You can't be petty with them because they got the last say-so.
Starting point is 01:56:36 And they are very vindictive. They definitely got the last say-so if they feel like they're being threatened. Oh, I told the ref he had to go check a play. If he was right, I owe him a mistake dinner. That was petty? Never gave it to him. Fuck him. Never gave it.
Starting point is 01:56:55 My baby, sister. All right. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. He's going to be. No, he ain't revving no more. Okay, all right, all right. You're good.
Starting point is 01:57:03 And I didn't give a fuck by text, really, when we came in, the motherfuckers are $500. So, yeah. And for me to say, now, you lead them, like, petty shit, you know, you gotta make it worth it. Like. Yeah, petty should be like, damn. They ain't taking care of you?
Starting point is 01:57:15 At home? Yeah, damn. Oh, too. Shit like that. Your wife ain't doing her job, huh? Yeah. Why you're tripping today? That's gonna get you at that.
Starting point is 01:57:23 I mean, we was in motherfucking gold and State playing, nigga. Hayward Wargman. The legend. Man, he was out there, motherfucker. Hey, were out there trying to act like he was still a player. Man, listen, I talked to a crazy that man out there. Did it hurt you guys to see players become reps? Was that like them becoming the ops?
Starting point is 01:57:36 Yeah. No, he's the right. Yeah. There's only two, it's only a handful. I know, but not even that many. You got Leon. Heyward. That was a lot.
Starting point is 01:57:45 Shit. Damn, Nick, you are officiating now? You know this life. By that, right? I mean. Magic. Yeah, Leon, Hayward. They're petty, they petty.
Starting point is 01:57:58 The reps are more petty than the players can, they got all there, they can be petted than any of us any of the end of a day of a week. I got kicked out the game for clapping. My bad, I did, I got you on the next one. That's their petty shit. Don't tell me that shit. No, call that one, motherfucker.
Starting point is 01:58:13 Yeah, that's they petty. I got you on the next one. No, don't call the next one, call that one. You missed that one. Call that one the one that you blatant, overlooked. I missed it. Tony brothers. No, he's the pettiest.
Starting point is 01:58:23 You're ugly. You're ugly. You're the ugly motherfucker, boy. He'll say whatever. He'll say whatever. He'll say that nightbrown. He'll chop back at you, too. He'll chop back.
Starting point is 01:58:34 He don't like it. Hey, yo, why is it that we don't ever see refs? I see them. Like in all season. At the rest. They'd be at the restaurants. Creeping with their own. They'd be at, like, academy restaurants.
Starting point is 01:58:46 I mean, academies all the time. I've never, I mean, of course, like, I mean, yeah, but you just never see them. Tony, brother. Yeah, out. I remember, they want to be home, boy, too. The white was getting hit so bad, man. I'm like, yo, Tony, call a file.
Starting point is 01:58:59 I ain't telling him put all those steroids in his body and do all the push-ups. Shit, I thought he could handle it. He's ain't do fire in the push-ups today. Shit, let me see it. That's like Tony, man. That's what I don't. That's what I don't. That's a real conversation, though, Mike.
Starting point is 01:59:16 He got the little small-ass head, big-ass body looking like with the Mario brothers. And I'm saying, like, Now, you're throwing your own family. I was like, no, that's what I swear to go. You ain't say no small-ass head. Tony is died. Bobby, not, not, not, Tony liked that. Tony, I can tell you, look at the mall, man.
Starting point is 01:59:32 Tony said, we were in dollars, dog. I can tell you. Yeah, I see you on the TV last night. Why you do you that Cardassian girl like that, man? I said, is that why I get no damn calls tonight, nigga? What you're talking about? I see you over there. You're cheating on that girl, man.
Starting point is 01:59:47 You better stop that shit. Oh, yeah, it's not your jurisdiction. It's not your fucking jurisdiction. Don't leave that shit alone. We are at a basketball game. Oh, they're going to say that. They'll call NBA security on your ass, too. They get escorted out the whole facility.
Starting point is 01:59:59 They will call NBA security. I don't know where he got hit. I want to leave. But we call it everybody on me. Ladies and gentlemen, we appreciate y'all for pulling up, want to wish everybody out there. We're not trying to get bread out like that anymore. Who picked that question?
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