Gil's Arena - The Los Angeles Lakers NEED To Push The Panic Button

Episode Date: February 25, 2026

The Los Angeles Lakers NEED To Push The Panic Button according to Gilbert Arenas as Gil & The Gil's Arena Crew react to the Lakers tricking off another double digit lead to the Orlando Magic last night and discuss their concern with the purple & gold's struggles against the league's top teams. They break down how JJ Redick & the team should handle their big 3 of Luka Doncic, LeBron James and Austin Reaves moving forward as the superstar trio has still not figured it out on the court and continue their conversation on LeBron James' future with the team as the King is set to hit free agency this summer. Next, they react to Jonathan Kuminga making his debut with the Atlanta Hawks as the former Golden State Warrior dropped a season high 27 points in his first game since escaping the Bay Area and debate if Kuminga will make his former team pay for giving up on him early. Finally, they address Kevin Durant's comments defending USA Basketball and the AAU system as the superstar committed to represent Team USA in the 2028 olympics and fend off the European takeover of basketball before giving their takes on the NBA's plans to stop tanking as it runs rampant through the league. Today's Gil's Arena Crew : Gilbert Arenas, Josiah Johnson, Nick Young, Brandon Jennings & Kenyon Martin Gil's Arena premieres every Wednesday & Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. Sign up for Underdog HERE with promo code GIL and play $5 to get $75 in bonus funds or bonus entries https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gi... If prescribed, new sexual health patients get $15 off their first order of Sparks on a recurring plan. Connect with a provider at https://ro.co/arena to find out if prescription Ro Sparks are right for you. SUBSCRIBE:    / @thearena0   Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos!   / discord   Must be 18+ (19+ in AL, NE; 19+ in CO for some games; 21+ in AZ & MA) and present in a state where Underdog Fantasy operates. Terms apply. Concerned with your play? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit www.ncpgambling.org; NY: Call the 24/7 HOPEline at 1-877-8-HOPENY or Text HOPENY (467369) Show Start 0:00:00 Lakers Need To Hit The Panic Button 0:06:02 Kuminga Cooks In His Hawks Debut 0:55:20 KD Defending USA Hoops DETONATES Gil's Arena 1:20:32 Prayers Up For Chris Bosh 1:58:11 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome back to Gills Virtual Arena, presented by Underdog, Whoa, whoa, whoo. We got a countdown. We have a countdown for a day, audio and visual, so you were ready to do this, but this is Gilles Arena presented by Underdog Woo-Woop. I'm merely a host, Josiah Johnson. As always, we got the NBA legend in Arc Raiders player Gilbert Arenas here with us. Making his first appearance this week, NBA champion of the world swaggy P,

Nick Young. For the best, probably better that you were not here yesterday, Swaggy, but we appreciate you pulling up tonight. I've seen it, though. I've seen the end in the show. I've called the end. We've got to be distinguished gentleman from Oak Cliff, former number one pick Canyon Martin back here with us.

What's that in there, my? And representing tough crowd in a card-carrying country club member, we got Mr. B, Brandon Jennings. Back in the virtual arena. Hey, I like it. That looks like that looks like that. That looks like you in doing. It looks clean, brother.

Thank you. Thank you. I got my golf shirt on the day. Okay. You ain't out there, though. It ain't out there. It says I never pull out. No.

You know, like a thing you, I just hit it right there. Perhaps that has multiple meanings and can be interpreted in multiple different ways. But we got a lot to get into today. Here's what's cracking in Gil's Arena. This afternoon. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. It's doing some weird shit. No, it's not, Gil.

Don't, don't even try to play. Hey, I see a lot of people in the, what is this called? The producers, do they all need to be here? Like, I think they're, like, sucking up some of the internet. I don't know what it is, but. They're taking all the good internet, girl? I don't know. You got gated community Wi-Fi.

Come on, now. I'm just saying like you don't it wasn't it wasn't like glitchy a little bit okay no no I'm sure but here's what's cracking in gills arena today lakers have dropped four of their last six games to fall to sixth in the west is it time for the purple and gold to start hitting the panic button Kevin Durant clapped back at critics of American grassroots basketball development in comparison to the European style but is KD spitting or tripping and the league is set to roll out

some anti-tanking rule changes next season, but will they do anything to stop the trend? Before we get into all that, as always, this show is brought to you by Underdog. Underdogs available in most states, including California, Texas, and Florida. New customers get $75 in bonus entries when they play just $5 to get started.

Just use Code Gill when you sign up and it'll load instantly. Underdog, make picks, win money with Code Gill. And if you can't watch this virtual show live with us on YouTube, we have audio versions available on Apple, Spotify, wherever you get your podcast. We're going to start this one on a down note. The Lakers tricked off.

Anyway, who was the sponsor you just said? Hmm? Who's a sponsor? So, as always presented by Underdog, Gil. Woo, whoa. Okay, I was just saying that. Someone said, we lost Underdog. I was just wondering,

but I thought I heard Underdog. As you do, every single episode of Gil's Arena, whether virtual or in studio. You know what? Since I'm on my time, I'm going to look right at the camera. Don't make me come. come back down there, boy.

Okay? Keep my name out your mouth. Before I come back down to the gutter and I've wrecked your shit up, okay? All right. Okay. Do we need to establish the rules again? Okay. Do I need to-

me? No. One of your ex-teamates. I'm just saying, I will come down there, tear all that down and up again. Okay. We, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, I don't know. what you're going down there talking. We used to be in the house.

We're graduating to a studio where other shows can be presented from the house to a studio. Okay? You keep running off at the mouth. I'm going to come down there, boy. You talking to me? Oh, thank you, friend.

One of your team needs. I haven't spent this name in a long time, man. You already know. Oh, oh. I will get the dragon. I will get the dragon around again. Okay, so let's, let's continue. Oh, man.

You're going to be trying to pretend. That you. Okay. Ain't you? Didn't like all the blacks. They didn't like all the black trucks coming through in throughout. Are you got to think? Where to purpose that?

So they didn't like all the black trucks. You're not all the black. There's 30 people coming through the neighborhood. I mean, there's 30 parking spaces. There's limos coming through and out. They don't like that. They tell the way, can you move your business somewhere else?

Okay. Now you keep running off at your mouth, brother. I'm going to come down there again. Spank you. And you know, I'm a spank you. We don't have these problems for years. I don't ruin your page plenty of times. It's a consultant.

It's 2026. You don't want to make it. another year of getting strikes and all that. Just, please. Enjoy your life, brother. Okay. Can you please carry on? Thank you very much.

A very productive week on the beef sector as well for this show. A lot of different beef situations going on. As you guys can see, Rashad McCann's not on the show today. He will be back tomorrow. I'm sure there's more things that will need to be addressed and discussed. But let's get it to. Do I have to be here? Because I'm going to contract.

You're going to contract. Yes. Yes, fool. Yes. It's actually obligated to be in your arena, presented by underdog. But let's talk about an unfortunate situation went down last night. Lakers tricked off a double-digit second half lead

and a home loss of the Magic Tuesday night to drop their second straight game. And their final play of the game left fans scratching their heads. We can't show the full highlights, but I will show you, they say pictures worth a thousand work, so we will take a look at this picture right here. So with the purple and gold down one with 6.7 seconds remaining. LeBron inbounded it to Luca, who was wide open for a somewhat deep three.

Luca opted not to take that shot, tried to get closer to the hoop, but the magic defense recovered. Luca threw a grenade to Bron, who was forced to take a contested fadeaway three that clanked off the rim to seal the loss. So after the game, JJ Redick, LeBron, and Luca all gave their thoughts on the final play. We were pulling that clip up as we speak. This is virtual, ladies gentlemen, we have things we are workshopping. I don't know. Y'all don't know how. Y'all don't have to fight the claims on YouTube. Interesting this game.

Boothleg up there. You know, ran to play for it. We get a look. You know, I felt like he had, you know, a decent shot. I thought he had a good look, and like he kind of just lost his balance, you know, didn't have a rhythm with the ball, whatever the case

may be. And it kind allowed him to get back in front of him. You know, I was kind of on balance and he waited to me. You know, I thought he had a great look, but, That's what I was. That's my POV. I know I was open, but I just thought I was a little bit far.

I think one double coach there. Probably shouldn't pick them to the ball. Just trying to attack. Like I said, Lakers down one in that game, 6.7 seconds remaining. Luca 8 for 24 from the field, two for 10 from three, which may explain some of his reluctance

in trying to take that potential game-winning shot. But, what's your reaction to Luca, passing up the potential game-winning shot in the Lakers' loss to the magic? as a game winning expert, you know, being two for ten, struggling from the three, struggling from the field, you know, when that's what you do, hit game winners, right? All of that, all those stats is irrelevant to that moment in time. So it would have been great if he took that shot, right? I know, like,

the rest of the game kind of, you know, shook him a little bit, thinking he's too far, but those are the moments that makes the great players great. And I just think he just bought too much, right? And that's all that was, right? Then you, I mean, you didn't have he, throw the grenade to LeBron. LeBron. I'm going to try to get it up, you know, himself. You know, it's just poor execution, right?

Just probably just overthinking. And what did you think about the play calling itself? Like I said, Lakers down, They had seven seconds remaining in the game. Didn't I necessarily need to shoot a three. Luca, obviously, struggling from the field in that game, struggling from three-point distance. Was that the ideal play for the Lakers to try to run to win a game?

Listen, I personally, as a guy who got the ball at the end of the games, there's a bunch of plays that I just don't understand coach's call because it goes again. against what you're trying to do, right? You got zipper up plays where the guard is, you know, the guard is at the bottom and they set the screen and he comes up, right? The rim is this way. So I got to come up, get the ball, and then try to turn around to then go back towards the basket.

So I hated all plays that had me coming from the bottom to the top. Always wanted to come, you know, downhill where I have my speed and I can see everything. I remember losing a game to Alan Iverson coming up. And he said it, I'm still it. And stole it, made the lay up and won the game. So I personally just don't like certain coaches call him game winners. Like, unless you have a team and you're, you know, you're back doing or something like that. Like, just make it easy, man.

Give it to your best one-on-one guy. Everybody get the fuck at the baseline. Let him do his job. Right? It doesn't need to be that complicated. But I don't need to call 13 screens and moves. and back doors and upper cup. Just, hey,

Dame James Hardin, get the ball at top. Everybody get out of their way, go to work. Sometimes it's just that simple. And I think sometimes coaches overcoach thinking they need to, thinking they need to draw up a great play to get a great result.

When just give it to your player, just go down and boom. Right, if you have a big man and you think they've been switching all day or they've been missing something all day, then we've got to call one of those backdoor lives because you think they're going to, boom, there you go. You know, those are moments.

But for the most part, if you got a guy who can really get his own, just give him the ball and just. Swaggett, what was your reaction to, Luca, passing up the potential game-winning three-pointer? And I actually like zipper up, you know? That was my play. Yeah. Wait, zipper up.

Are you in the corner, or are you? I zip up, and I just do a quick rip, too. I remember I did that in the game. It's overtime. Is it? Like Kobe actually was doing in the, he drew it up in the huddle. You like Shetka?

You like zipper up? Like, there's always the guy taking all the bounds. He had denied me or he had jumping halfway. He was like, I never liked that player. Are you like that? I ran that play a lot, that's right, because I liked it on the, um, a free throw, whatever that's called.

I can't think of the name. Yeah, the zipper up to the empty out of the other elbow guys. I ran through, I can do it easy to pull up or go all. Yeah, down too. You like the zipper up, too? Yeah. On the game winner? Especially going to my left, yeah.

But on the game, I don't remember. You never got zip reps? Zipers? No, no, no. We started to zipper up. Yeah, I like it. You called a zipper up for me when you're like, you don't know about him yet.

Yeah, but that's not on the game winner. But I have the ball inbound. I'm talking about, I mean, I have the ball, so, you know, I can see it. When you're taking it out of bounds and they're zipping and they're zippering up, the guy who's taking out of bounds, he's sometimes deny. It's like the nine switch shit. And then the big comes up and then.

Yep. And pass it for you. You got to give it back to the guy who took the ball out of the bounds and twice. Yeah. I know, but it's usually whoever inbound is a score too, though, most of the time. Just so you get it back. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, Antoine. I mean, just give it the option A, you know what I mean? You got to worry about option B, you know? All right, yeah. All right, all right. I got you. Zipper up a side, Swaggy. What was your reaction to Luca passing up on that opportunity?

Luca has a track record of making game winning shots, shooting the shot in those moments. Play call for him. He tried to throw Brian the grenade. I think, you know, love. Like Gil said, game on the mind, all the stats and stuff, you're not really thinking about that.

Like, you're thinking of the moment, you're obviously thinking you're going to make the shot. Down one, I don't know if I go for the three. I might take something easier. But like I said, man, the Lakers are, they're the best of the ass teams, man. They're like,

having a hard time still trying to figure out the big three. They are coming back when he's playing with LeBron and Luca. They all look out of the scene. So I don't like it. I don't like it. Let's move on to you, Mr. B. Brandon Jennings. What are your thoughts on Luca passing up the potential game winning shot? Man, you know, told you, it's that panic button.

You know, they should have been pushing, you know, they need to be pushing that panic button. That's not like to be passing up game winners. But maybe it was his shot the fact that he was off, but that's not like Luca to be passing up game owners. And finally, to the distinguished gentleman from Oak Cliff, future Laker fan, Ken your mind. What did you think about Luca passing up that opportunity, putting Brown in the bad spot to try and throw up some bullshit to win the game?

Yeah. He made Brown look bad, Gil. It's okay. You can't admit it. But I just don't like, I don't like the bullshit he said after the game. Like, damn the shot. Okay, you pass it up. Okay, cool.

They've been trying to sell us the shit too far. Like, dude, we didn't see you shoot the ball from a lot further than that. So, like, don't, don't try to sell us that shit was too far. You were a foot behind the three-point line. Like, you don't do that. Like, you froze up. That's what it is. Like, you froze up in the moment.

And you put, and you threw. like y'all said you threw the brunt and it'd be the hell of brown would have threw it back to him right like so that's hey that way

you have to turn the favor like hey I've seen it I seen it before so you throw him the ball late you threw it back to him like now that's on you brough we ain't doing that

like but nah it froze up in the moment and trying to sell us some bullshit on the back side like no we saw what it was bro You shoot the ball from a lot further than that. And like Gil stated and like Swag said,

and like you, when you are that guy and the game is on the line, your stats don't matter. Like you can have a horrible game, but when a game on the line, you're supposed to rise to that occasion. Because other guys that's in that situation, the number one guys do. So they put the ball in your hand for a reason.

The ball's in your hand. But the clock running down for a reason. So you froze up in the moment. That's all right. Happens to the best of them. So Swaggy, like you mentioned, Lakers, in your words, the best of the ass teams in the NBA right now. So after a hot start, we saw Lakers amongst the top teams in the West.

They have struggled as of late. Purple and gold went four and four in their eight-game homestead, dropping four of their last six games, losses to the Thunder, Spurs, Celtics, and this magic loss Tuesday night, wins over the Mavs and Clippers. That Clippers game got a little shaky too with a sideline out of the band play late in the game

with Brown trying to toss it across the court to Luca. Oh. You know, ended up potentially tricking the game off between a miss the three. Yeah. And, Gail, to your point about the zipper up, like, we lost two games in the Western Conference finals to the Lakers on their bullshit.

Out of bounds? The out of bounds? The bounds, they're trying to zip a mellow up. They just jumped out there and took it away. So to your point, put the shit out, throw the ball to mellow on the block, get the fuck out the way, you know what I'm saying? Like that's just what you should have been. Like I mean, like the zipper up on like the guard brings it down.

It's a point. It's a zipper up and that. Yeah, that's the D-Wing. Because you got to set defense is tough, man. Special game on the line. And you know, you got to be playing a good defensive team and they've been, they scheme well. And they know where we, they know where we're trying to go with the ball

because we didn't have any out of battles plays like that. So we never worked on in the game. game situations not like other plays other than run the zipper mellow up and get him the damn ball like no so yeah i was just looking at the uh play where so i got one stolen zipper up and then i was like you know what i don't want to come up so put me on the side and then scream right here and i can go like this right in my and while he's trying to pass it i'm still trying to hurry up and turn i ran right through it but i remember that game and then that's when i said put me at half court Let me come down.

There we go. Let's try that way. Yeah. They should have passed it in to somebody and let you zip up out there. Yeah. It's hard to zip up from out of bounds. They did have seven seconds. Yeah, you know, play like this.

Just by looking at the look of play, when you really look at it, he probably got shocked that he was that open, right? He probably figured out, okay, they're going to jump switch. You're going to go down. I'm going to do my thing. And then he got stuck on him. One got stuck here. One's in the back, and it's like, oh, shit.

And then he probably tried to dribble. Then from there, just all just. And Brian, a hell of a teammate, too, for selling us the bullshit as well. Yeah. You kind of out balance lost his footing a little bit like you fumbled it. Like, no, Brown. Like, we get it. Like, you're a hell of a teammate for looking out for your man.

Didn't feel like a particularly genuine answer from LeBron. I'll just say that watching the post-game press conference. He was scrambling. Yeah, but he's been busy frustrated in those situations. Yeah, yeah, can you put him in a horrible spot? Yeah, he should throw him a live one. Lacking up his numbers.

But back to these Lakers quickly. Now that goes on his game winning thing. Now that it goes on his stats for game winners and on the negative side because you threw him their damn live one. So. Helping support and push narratives, the anti-Bron narrative. But Lakers 11 and 12 in their last.

23 games. Also continue to struggle against playoff caliber teams. It gets worse, Kenyon. 11 to 12 their last 23. They are one and 11 against the top seven teams in the league right now. O and two against the Thunder. O'N one against the Pistons, one and three against the Spurs, O' and two against the Celtics, O'N one against the NICs,

on one against the Knit. So Gil, lifelong Lakers fan, or 1996. Okay, first of them. Hey, hold on, hold on. Hold on. I'm going to let you go. I just got one thing to say. All that stuff that you just stated Josiah,

that sound like a first round exit. Go. Really? Shit. Might not get there. Might not get it. But if they're sick, so if they can hold on and they hold them about three.

But my bad way. There's so many games that went on a day. What is all this? What is all this, the Laker? Like, I mean, we need to talk about it. Oh. Oh.

The other time you want to talk about them first. Right, right. We need to talk about it. Y'all, we need to get that bad. Let's talk about it. Let's talk about it. I haven't talked about the Lakers, none. I haven't been losing.

Huh? Because y'all been losing. No, because I see what we have. We got trade deadline. We didn't get nobody. You didn't see me say nothing. You didn't stay beside them. Stay beside them.

A few days ago, you was talking about who they all got? Luke Canard. Yeah. Uh-huh. You was praising Louvre. You was praising a couple of days. But then you're backpedal. And he shoot one, three a game.

Like, that's cool. Then you back pedal. Then you back pedal. Let's talk about the Lakers. Yes, we're talking about the Lakers. Yes, right now. Let's talk. No, let's talk.

No, let's talk. No, let's talk about what's going on with your team. Because Brandon did say it was time to, listen, Brandon did say that it was time to hit the panic butt. When we was asked the question. Loobloakers in the house. Right. Okay, so I walk around with it, if it all.

About the Lakers. That's where we're going today. Like, there's so many piloted things, like Camiga. We're talking to Kamega later in the show, Gil, this is a full slated Gilles virtual arena. Several things to discuss. We are not talking about that. Yeah, we are not talking about that.

With the new beat, hey, you know what I mean? There's a lot of things that were saying. But, okay, because we want to talk about the Lakers. I did not get to ask you yet because you interject. So how concerning are the Lakers recent struggles and continued struggles against the top teams in the league? Two-parter. Obviously, it's always a concern that you can't beat the top teams

because that's who you're going to face in the playoffs. Last time I checked, you know, you don't play the bottom teams in the playoffs. You need the top teams in the playoffs. So the fact that you don't have their number yet or even figured either one of them out where you're like, ooh, I can't wait to play against them in the playoffs. So the fact that you don't have that is concerning, but we always have a plan, right? Look, where we're sitting at right now, yeah, we don't like that position. We didn't like, we didn't like five because five has a guy by the name of Yokic.

we don't want to play against him in the playoffs so we don't want five at all we don't want four at all because four means Yokes is at five so therefore we got to move we got to lose a little bit

right to get the six now six has Kevin Durant maybe maybe not maybe maybe not I think we're going to just we're going to settle with seven we're going to ride out seven again for the 30 in a row.

Seven has a Victor Wombo Wamba in that's first one. We're going to deal with the young boys. See, if you ain't noticed for a long time, we always in seven playing against the number two seed, right? And it's usually a young, young, young little whippersnappers. And we get them. I mean, we didn't get them out of that. But we usually get them the Memphis is and all of that.

So we would rather probably play the Spurs the first. round because the other teams yeah, them other ones they got champions or they got champions on the teams and yeah, we're not bad. Our team team is. One and three against the Spurs

this season so far as one and three. What are we against the different nuggets? One and all against the nuggets on a positive. One game. You know, you know, you know, that that is.

You're right. Let me not be doing. We're going to go to Daycare. You're going to play Spurs over them? Daycare. Hey, listen, they go in the playoffs. Hey, burping babies, man. You don't want to see him.

He's still burping babies out here. I always want to play a young team in the playoffs with LeBron James and Luca because you get those calls. Not them. The only reason why y'all get saved right now is because the other teams around y'all are playing like trash too the last team that's the only reason why y'all were y'all at the team's playing well

everybody everybody's been playing bad the last 10 years that's the only reason why you guys are safe right now everybody who's playing well the leggers be playing well too seven come with a play in yeah yeah we're being the 18 to beat them then we get the seven you play first we've been done we did it every year so far seven is us can you're going to be outside the playoffs in a minute tell me you y'all said this last two years and they didn't have you better hit that bet hit that pet that button. Nah, we can't,

now. We're going to make the playoffs now. Come on, brother. The playoffs. All right. Sound like a first round exit. It's going to make the playoffs.

Sound like the first round exit to me. If we're going to lose first round. It's finishing seven, eight. It's going to be a sweep. Yeah, absolutely. They're getting swept.

Yeah. The NBA is going to get sweat. Okay. Yes. Yes. NBC. It didn't allow for legal in. Yes.

NBC not allowing that, Mr. B. You already know the rules of the regulation. Listen, that last year. They were close games in that series, can you? They were very close games. I'm not going to get to an episode.

I was going to walk in them. You know, that's why they out. Oh, they were just trying to get it out there. Yeah, they don't know what's true. They know how much money they lost with that playoff script? That playoff strip, they lost so much money there. NBC had to come in. Let me show you how to make millions.

Not this year. Not this year. Sell the game. Insights to excellent. I tell the game. Yeah. I mean, it's a beautiful time. But let's move on to you, Kenyon.

Like I said, not the biggest Lakers fan here on Gills Virtual Arena, presented by Underdog Woo-Woo. No, I may. But put your neutral basketball analyst cap on how concerning on the Lakers' recent struggles and continued struggles against the top teams in the league? Oh, like I stated, it sounded like a first round exit. So to Gil's point, you don't play the team that's behind you in the playoffs.

You play the team that's in front of you. And with that said, good luck. But, yeah, no, it's just one of those things, man. It's the ebb and flows of the NBA season. You guys got off to a hot start. So did a few other teams that came back to reality. I think this is your guy's reality, that you are a lower, like Nick said, you do the best of the ass team.

So I think that is the reality. six, seven, eight around those seeds are fitting for y'all, right? Yeah. And hoping and you know where that gets you, but hoping that the right matchup falls in the higher seed that gives you guys a chance. It hasn't worked out in you guys favor the last few years. And I see that trend continuing.

Yeah, because in the playoffs, you got to get stops, man. You got to have guys on the floor that can get stops. And there are people that you guys play consistently that you guys have to rely on to put the ball in the basket. It's not their strong, it's not one of their strong attributes. So, yeah, it's going to be tough sledding in the playoffs if you guys were to get in. So just the wrong time of the season to have that.

But it's time to get it. back, though. There's still games to play to right the ship to be on the hide going into the playoffs. So we'll see. We'll see. Can you, like you always say, we know where Hope works at, but is it possible for Hub to get her GED, clean her life up,

hit community college? No, I'm saying, she had somebody coming there and save her, you know what I'm saying? Hope can improve her life. Yeah, absolutely. Somebody came in there, they liked what they saw. You know what I'm saying? They gave her an opportunity. Hey, rebod them says.

I'm saying some, I'm about some rebid plastics? I'm saying like... Most definitely. Move on to you, Swaggy, on the fence Laker fan. How concerned Lakers recent struggles? Oh, man. Is it? I don't know.

Like, I'm waiting, I'm waiting for Luka to battle as Luke of the show, man. They're making down better with worst teammates in Dallas. He took Tians farther with less talent. talent. And I'm waiting for that to show up in a Laker uniform. That's all. I think Luca leading the league in scoring,

but are you saying what you haven't seen from Luca what he was able to execute with the maps? I mean, this is his team now. I've been well documented. I know he's going to score, but I feel like he just did. I don't know. I don't know.

So, Gil, what would you like the roster to look like, Gil? Like you know, like, what would you like to... Like, what would you like, like, let's be realistic. Like, what would you like for the roster to look like? Like, just certain guys that you would think that would fit how Luca plays, because here's the future, right? So, like, surrounding guys, like, around Luca that...

So I need my starting center and my backup center as a rim runner. Okay. Right? Which is kind of the most important part, somebody who can challenge everything at the rim. And, you know, that's just a big lob threat. When it comes to... Sorry.

It's the workers. It's the HOA. You know, like when they... You know, because, you know, here, you know, in the HOA, we don't do none of our trash or none of our lawn. They do it is paid for. Hey, can y'all shut out? I find it very

very convenient that the garters only come Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday between 11.30 and Pacific and 2 p.m. They got to come every day because it's a neighborhood. So the way is pay you they come every day, trash, clean and yeah, they take care of everything. You just get the chill.

Yeah, so I don't touch trash. I don't touch, I don't do that. I don't physically do that. It's mad. Yeah, so need me, rim runner, right? I need another one-on-one guy and then shooters. Like, I don't need no three. Like, the way Luca plays, you have someone that's on the court that can't shoot.

It kind of hurts me a little bit. You don't, you know what I mean? So, like, if you have a vandal and even a Marcus smart, like, you can't, it's, you can't have those guys because if he can't have the advantage and he's passive, that means. something happened and that that shot is for you. Right? So, you know, he needs, he needs that, that, gosh, most of the heroes need that. That they like those rim runners and then, you know,

that four out look. Yeah, because you need a, so the four, like, so Aaron Gordon, like can do both, right? Yes. He's at the rim and can play in the donker. It can go at the rim. He can go to three. Like, yeah, so guys, yeah.

So fitting like that in different positions, I think, yeah, it fits them. Just like your game. It's tough. Yeah. Yeah. Right. You know, the dunker and everybody's issues. Like, I understand, man, that's the way the game is now.

But you have a main guy that's ball dominant that dictates things and all that. But it's very rare, man, where that ball ain't moving. And guys ain't in a rhythm. It's very rare. But you have success, man. and to have the numbers that he has putting up year in, year out, and made it to one finals playing that way, right? It just does something need to change?

Like, is it, I'm not, leave the team and scoring and assists, right? Lead the team is scoring and assists, right? Yeah, cool. Like, it's excellent when you think about, like, in retrospect, it's excellent, leading the team is scoring and assists. That's what I was trying to figure out. I'm a firm believe in, so averaging nine assists, right? You're so good and you're so dominant and you're such a good score.

Average in 30 and 9, less average 25 and 13, right? I think that helps. I think that helps the rest of, like, some of them badass step back threes and shit that he takes you know what I'm saying like that's ah yeah

like so let's be more efficient right in your approach like when like let's but I just don't think the way he plays is going to get it done I can take

I can go to 24 right like I always listen to that idea you take points away from your star player, but then you give him to who? Somebody asked to step up. That's what I'm saying.

Because if they was capable of it, I wouldn't even be averaging this much. When Kobe averaged 35, right? Yes, he had to. We can look at that team today and say, hey, Kobe, you average 25. Somebody else is about the average 10. There was nobody on there that can actually jump their production up double.

I understand. he can defer a couple points there and move him there. But, you know, for Duke's averaging 35, that says more about the team than it does him. You know, Lamar could have an average, Lamar could have an extra five. I get that. Lamar, he could have.

Yeah, he was cold now. I don't say he wasn't there. He was, he was six, man. Okay, but he was a unfurfish player that didn't take a lot of shots because he played team basketball. And wasn't Wapelkalo on that team? The man that started averaging 20 once he came to the Wizards.

Not that year. Not that year. I don't think that he was on the team. No, no. When we got Karan and Chuck Eackens and him, and, yeah, that's when he started averaging that. Yeah, but he got off. When he got everybody. In certain situations, I do agree with that gear.

Yeah. Some teams, guys, you have to put that ball in the basketball the way the roster is made up. It's just, I see a lot of bad shots. Yeah. Right? And those bad shots, it could be a swing, swing situation for someone. Things I'm thinking about, like me thinking about real hooping, real winning basketball, right?

Instead of me shooting this 27, 28 foot step back, let me get in the pain and make a play right let me do that five times instead of them five stepbacks that I'm going to shoot that's all I'm saying they might resort an assist they might not resort in an assist or play being made but that shit is demoralizing at times for guys on the floor like you doing so much

and you want to compete and you want to win and I know I'm not going to get the looks that that another person is going to get and you you shoot that bullshit like I do Like that shit like it does some two teams I ain't saying that's what happened with the legos But it does some two guys at times

And to not feel involved Offensively when you And he said listen just every now and again I drive that motherfucker I might I might have to drop kick that bitch up there To get it up there But hey I got on the rim

I'm saying reward the nigga sometime That's all like Instead of shooting that Getting the paint Make a play It might come back to you Like you got in the play you replace, they swing and swinging,

it might come back to you. And it's a better look than that bad step back. Remember I said that? I said, like, the plays we had, some of the shots that are taking are just bad basketball shots. Yeah, yeah.

Like, I know what you're talking about when it comes to how some of these guys play, like, you all don't know nothing about probably 2K, and they got the cop and the pros. basically you got one guy, big man, they set a pick and roll. And then everybody else sits in the corner.

You shoot it only if you're open, if not give it back to the point guard. You can do pick a roll. So the point guard himself usually has about 50 points, 14, 16 assists. Everybody else's like five for five, three for five. Like, no, this is not, no, no, no. Give up the rock, all right? I'm like a corner dude. Right, I've never been a corner dude.

And if I'm going to be a corner dude, I better be a corner dude to a dude that can do it faster. Like some of these guys need to understand this. I would, let's say I'm the fourth option. I would rather be the fourth option with the 2017-2018-2018-go-to-state Warriors. Like I would rather play with Steph and K.D. and Clay. Then play second option to some of these guys. because how slow they play. If you're passing,

checking shots like, you know, Clay scored 60 with 11 dribbles. You know how many possessions he's putting in the game? Yeah, yes. You know what I mean? Like, we would have done. Went up, back down.

Look, we got a guy. Hold on. Hold on. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And the step back. Like, they don't do that. My fucking, fuck,

do it the first fucking five seconds of the game. So they can come down, shoot, we can come back on offense. Yeah, and getting the ball out of the game. Get the ball up throwing ahead, right? Like getting the ball out throwing, like, so a guy like Vanderbilt, right? If he is going to play and y'all need him because of the defense that he plays, he gets extra possessions, offense, and rebounds and things like that. Why not kick the ball ahead to him on the right wing and let him go left and get in the, like, kick the ball to him?

Let him catch the ball on the move and do what he does well. attack the rim. Give him those opportunities because you need him on the floor because he is a good defender and he does extra things. Make him fill a bar at a time. Instead of getting it,

driven that bitch up every single possession, it's... Walk it too. You walking it up. Yeah, that's... Now you force him to be a shooter. But with that, can Luca be a spot-up shooter, though?

Can Luca give it up and be a spot-up shooter? According to me... That's the thing. I've never seen it. No, because he needs... No, I'm not asking him to be there. He needs to... But if you give it up and he makes a play,

Luca would have to move a lot to the corner or move his bite and be a spot-up shooter. He used to step back and having the ball in the game. Yeah, no, that, no, you put him and make him... Like, do it. I ain't said he ought to play like Steph, but put him in a situation, backscreens and shit to, like, make his ass move.

Get off the ball, man. Like, the ball need to move at times. put him in situations back screen down screen make a defense make decisions and slips and put him in the pose and like I'm just like make his ass be active yeah that makes

like you so that's all like you can't just continue to run the same shit game in game out game out playoff series that playoff people figure that shit out bro like they're not going to continue to let you do the same thing the more moving he doing and the more he's getting his teammates open he's going to be open yeah exactly

We had 83. We had 83 yesterday. Yeah. To their 90, to their 90, 93. So 10 less shots.

10 less than that? I'm in turnovers you guys have. I didn't even look that. I just want to see how many shots did. It was crazy as King of that. That's how Steph get open. Because he'd be back screening and doing all that for everybody else.

Yeah. Because he understands. He understands. Yeah. But I ain't saying you got to move as fast as him, but same action. Same actions. That's all.

He's looking too damn slow to be doing about that. No, make the feel. Because, listen, man, they're playing against a lot of young, dumb basketball players, man. They will mess it up. Listen, you set up screens and you slip enough. They're going to start overreacting to the back door. Trust them. You go back door enough.

But I'm just thinking about Luca game. That's why I think about Luther games. You can change something up. In order to win, you have changed some trouble. He's going to help his game, too. Luca and Reeves took 80. The Lakers took 83 shots in that game. Luca and Reeves took 40 of those shots.

They were 14 to 40. Crazy. Crazy. He probably can't do that. Half the team shots, two guys. Four for 15 for three combined. You said 14 for 40? 14 for 40.

That's bad basketball. Yeah, it's like a playoff style in the middle of the season. Just let's be. Yeah. He shot 10. Luke was 2 for 10 from 3, reads 2 for 5, so combined 4 for 15. How many of them 3 is the stepbacks?

That's why. All? Most likely they're all of them. I'm guarantee 4 or 5. He's 3 when he spotted up. The one he passed up was the easiest one. Yeah. Wasn't that hard enough shot?

He wasn't used to coming off a screen to shoot like that. So let's talk about one last issue with this Lakers score before we move on. So Luka LeBron and Reeves trio, eight and five this season when they all play together. Four of those five losses are by double digits to the Spurs, Rockets, Celtics, and Sons. And the numbers show when all three are on the court together, the Lakers, like you says, right, you are a very ass team. So with Luca LeBron and Reeves on the floor together, Lakers have a 110.6 offensive rating,

11.5 defense a rating and a 7.9 net rating, or negative 7.9 net rating. With Luca and Reeves on the court without LeBron, they have a 126.4 offensive rating, 108.5 defense rating, plus 17.9 net ratings, so plus 18 net rating. And with LeBron on the floor, without the exciting whites, Lakers have a 118.5 offensive rating, 109.7 defensive rating, and nearly a plus nine net rating. So JJ Reddick said the Lakers are a work in progress

with LeBron and Luca both echoing those sentiments. But you're looking at those numbers right there. You're listening. you're missing one. It should have, or you, you're missing LeBron and Reeves. Yeah.

Yeah. Right? We would have needed to see that one too. Yeah. The Bron and Reeves, no Luther? Yeah, because one thing we do know, we know, if we put it in order of the slowest,

it'd be Luca, LeBron, and Reeves. Right? So, Reeves is the guy that moves the tempo, right? So I really want to see what him and LeBron or even him by himself, because he did play by himself, what those numbers are.

And I'm pretty sure they're a lot because he puts more possessions in the game. Because he just, he's, he's, he's, going to put more possessions in the game for everybody to get more shot. So I want to see what his is by himself. But what we can see is when all three on the court together, it's kind of counterproductive.

Yeah, I mean, it's, it's, it's, um, it was a LeBron's makeup in the Lucas transition. And some of these guys got to get put out to make it more Luca friendly. And you got to figure out what those people are, right? This is one of those years where you're still trying to figure out the pieces that actually makes it more efficient in scoring, passing, and, you know, getting up and down. because we can say he plays slow, but we watched him with Dallas and Kyrie and lively and all those guys. And one thing we do know is we don't have those type of guys that are moving like that where they're spreading up the corner.

He's like, fuck it, let me just throw it up court. Like, we don't got that guy. We don't got that guy that's forcing Luca to pass it. He's going here and he's shooting to the rim. And Lucas, like, oh, shit, let me just give it up. Right? We don't have that guy. And then same thing with Kyrie, we can say, okay, that's,

That's Austin Reeves, that style of play. Right, but everybody else is athletic. Like, we don't have athletic players. But Kyrie more efficient than fucking Austin Reeves, too. We can say, we have another fast guy. That's Kyrie. But we don't have the live and Gaffer. That's true.

If you put these teams on paper, who do you think will win? The Lakers versus the Dallas team? When right now? Healthy? With Kyrie healthy? Highly. And lively and Gives and Gives and Gets. Garford and everybody have.

And Cooper? Fucking down his Mavericks. Jones and what's the other one? Yeah, they get y'all. Oh, no. I don't. Hey, what's the healthy Kyrie? Yeah.

They get us an easy trip to the next round. What are y'all talking about? What are you talking about? What are you talking about? They're talking about they're going to playoffs healthy right now. Yeah, get y'all. But did they get us last year when we, you know Luca hasn't lost to Dallas, right?

That's what I'm saying. And then, you know, he hasn't lost. Who gives me that was. And Kyrie ain't been out there for none of them games neither. I'll be honest with you. Luca, Luke ain't losing to Dallas. Wasn't Kyrie here for the?

No. He was out there in the first round. Getting barbecue. I was a game him and country was going on. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

He was here in LA. For a game back. Can you? Yeah. We were all there. He was all there. I think he was to the left. We're all there.

An exciting evening. I didn't have a... I erased that out my memory, back. I wasn't there. But it brings me the point where you can't have LeBron, Luca, and Reeves on the court at the same time. It's not productive. Then what's the solution there?

Because you're not bringing Brown off the bench. I'm not bringing Reeves off the bench either. You're not bringing Luca off the bench. At the end of the day, what are we talking about? The last five minutes, They got to play with each other. So you've got three different cows. And everyone's so funny is the only person that's adaptable,

and that's why I wouldn't bring him off the bench, is Reeves. He's played with LeBron, knows how to play with LeBron. He knows how to play with Luca. So it's not him. But he has two. You can't have two guys out there taking all the bad-ass shots. Like, Austin Reeves got to be better. Right.

He got to admit some of them. Yeah, okay. He can't do the same shit, Luca, do it. You can't have him and Luke out there, motherfucker, taking turns, dribble, dribble, twing, twing, tweed, stepped back 28-footer, like, just don't. And coming down and getting your ass busted. Yeah, and, and in the liability.

And all three of them in there? He don't take those with all three of them in there. He don't three of them in there. He's put in that part. He takes those when Luca go out. He's taking them, either with Luca after or ain't out there. You can't have him taking them bad-ass shots, man. Because he's not, he don't know no better when they're out there.

If you do it when they out there, if you do it when they're out there, he's going to do it. I can't even, okay, cool. One of those, you just be like, okay, like, it's, it's, it's, it's, you got a little bit. Reckless, but it's still somehow control. Like, you see it? You see him, like, crossing?

He's like, it's like me in my life. I've always right out the edge, right? But I figure out how to stay in line. Just, you know, you know, I might have, I might, I might hit the bumper a little bit, but I ain't fully stuck in. I got to take it to the body shop just a little bit. Yeah, I messed up the ring. You need a little pain.

You know, for the most part, engine is still good. You know what I mean? Still workable. We can still drive. Well. And that's how he plays the game. So it's like, he brings,

he brings too much to just, I can't, I cannot penalize. No, you can't. No, because you can't, no,

because you need him to compete. Right? You need him to, because you don't have enough on the bench for him not to be aggressive. Yeah. So I get the dilemma that they're in

and that the way they play. So I understand it, but it's, it's a winner formula when the time count. And the other day, Austin Reeves was froze out, was iced out. Not the game before that, I think. He only had like, I think, 10 by the third quarter or something like that.

Yeah, Reeves were scoreless. The halftime of this came, came back in the second half-mounce back. That's what I don't like. They got to figure that out. And you can't see the thing is, right? Bro, who's freezing him out? He goes, like, he goes scoreless in time. 50% of all.

Come on, bro. Have you vote scoreless? Hold on. Yeah, he went scoreless, right? So that's the problem, right? Right there. He went scoreless in the first half and pain out. You ain't got it going, dog?

You went scored to the first half? He came out in the second half, and him and Luca took fucking 40 shots. He took 20 shots in the second half, bro. I mean, like, come on, man. Like, you ain't got it going. Shit. I don't know if I got it going. You ain't gave me the ball.

He went scoreless. He got the last game. That's the magic. The team took 40s. He went off the team. The team took 83 shots. Luca and also Reeves took 40 of them. Reeves was scoreless in the first half, but then he bounced back.

Yeah. You keep saying scoreless like he didn't touch the ball. He did not score in the first half, Gil. That isn't really the entire ball. How many shots they got? God. Jesus. Don't do that.

How many shots he got? He's saying he was scoreless. like he didn't get the ball. But if he's over 10, he got the ball. He just... How many shots did he have, though? That's what I'm talking about. Yeah.

Did I say he was scorer less and didn't get the ball? No, he... No, Nick is saying he didn't get the ball. He was 0 for 5 in the first half. That ain't shit. That ain't shit. Yeah. Over 5?

No, you're right. Dude, that's a fucking shot every 5 minutes. How the fuck I'm going? Because you have to get going. Fuck! I got to 3 to 5. I got to sit in a minute. You get this stuffback shit.

That's a real poor that nigger stat. You sit here watching all these things. All right, I'm going to show you all this. All right. I'm going to pass me the fucking ball. I got y'all. That's exactly what happened. I got y'all, niggas.

Go around what I do this step back shit. Okay, I'll show you how to step back, motherfucker. Yeah. So the second half, you came out and did it. Yeah. That's exactly what happened. So what was the final. Yeah.

Yeah. So I took 11 shots in the second half. Yeah. Finish. Finish with. Hold on one second. I'm out of it. 18 points.

God damn. Five shots in two-quarter. It's, fuck. I'm the third score. I'm the fucking. So six for 11 in the second half. Yeah. 50%.

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Trey Young made his return to Atlanta for the first time since being traded to the Wizards on Tuesday night and got a front row seat to watch Jonathan Cominga make his hawks debut. So, Cominga escaped the Warriors Dog House with a tray before. the deadline got to cooking with his new squad coming through with a season high, 27 points on 9 or 12 shooting, including 3 or 4 from deep, along with 7 rebounds, 4 assists, and 2 steals in 24 minutes off the bench. His high-scoring night was much needed. After All-Star 4, Jalen Johnson left the game in the first quarter with a hip injury.

Kaminga was all smiles throughout the game as the Hawks got the blowout win. We got the numbers right there on the screen for you guys. So, Gilbert, I will start with you. good to see Kamenga balling in his debut with the Hawks. Hell yeah. I think the world, I think we're all. Like, I think everybody, everybody, but Thieb Kerr, I'm pretty sure. Everybody was excited to see Kaminga play because we've seen so many glimpses of him.

We've heard so much negativity around his name and his game. he's missed so much basketball that he can come off the bench and produce and do exactly what we thought. Run up and down, dunk, right? Put pressure on the rim. Be a score.

Like it's one of those things where when Dremont Green subbed in for when they made that decision for David Ali, David Lee. David Lee. David Lee. Who was an all-star player at the moment in time where they made the switch. But you didn't do it this time around to evolve that team.

You know what I mean? So it was one of those things where you do got shit on your face or egg on your face. and, you know, it is going to bite you moving forward because, like, he's so young, he's so talented, and he's going to get better, right? And, you know, now that he knows that he is an NBA player, he can play in his league,

he's only going to use what you did again, the next few. And I'm going to tell you, I don't know if Golda States plays Atlanta this year. I believe they do. I'm telling you, and I'm telling you as a hooper. Don't double. Nah, no, don't double. Yeah, you didn't double nobody all year.

Don't double. Whoever was playing in front of him, check up. And he's going to barbecue the shit. Because everybody in Atlanta, even if he's new, they're going to be like, we understand. Do your thing. March 21st in Atlanta Guild, the Warriors pull up to town. Mm-hmm.

he gonna get all he gonna get all the shots and I don't want to see no doubling don't because because if you double you look weak as a coach and as an organization you can't double it you can't double though you can't double because you said he was nothing don't come out and start doubling the player who ain't worth nothing I don't do that he's not worth none you shouldn't even have a scound report on the dude who was the dude who was the dude playing in front of him that's who should be guarding him Yeah, no facts. Mm.

Yeah. Whoever that is. Is that, is that, is that? That's great, man. It could be a time. Oh, no. He was a three. Whoever the three is.

Yeah, whoever the three over there. Now he plays some small forward, power forward. I'm just saying, it could be a time. Power forward is the four, sir. So if you play small forward and power forward, that means he would play the three and the four he was starting that and you pulled that bullshit last week i'm not i'm not starting at the three so whoever took him out of that spot right there who's that who's that who is that we're playing the three right now we do not watch warriors basketball right it was biller right

now jimmy's the two right i don't know yeah i don't know who who who's about to get that ass for but That's all we want to know. Warriors fans in the chat. Say some names. There's going to be that big ass. Oh, Pat Spencer. Mmm. Ouch.

Good luck, buddy. Never mind. Let's shift over to Mr. B. Mr. B. Was it good for you to see, John's the Camer? Faked that injury, Pat. That injury, Pat. Jonathan Cominga, bawling out in his Atlanta Hawks debut

after his unceremonies exit from the Warriors, did that man dirty. Play with his money. Yeah, of course, man. I mean, everything he went through, like Gil said, man, he's still young, still talented. Everybody know he can play. We saw him last year when he got in,

and he was playing with the little minutes of time that he had. But now he has the freedom. Now everything's behind him. Now he can just go play basketball. And I just hope that he can stay healthy and just continue to just keep growing. That's all he can help. I mean, he's been, because he's been playing with the Warriors.

He's been in the practice facilities, the locker rooms with Steph Curry and some of the great players. So he has a lot of knowledge. So he can just take that on with him. Swaggy, let's move on to yourself. Oh, man, for me, it's always good to see my players get a chance to grow and redeem themselves after being talked about and ridicule, put on the end of the business. bench, D&Ps. There's nothing like going out there and proving people wrong. Kaminga, keep it up. I don't know you got that date marked in March.

You can't wait to play against them guys. Are they in the playoff running, Atlanta? They are ninth in the east right now, trending in the right direction. Okay, okay. According to sure. I think they got a chance to, they'd be a little dangerous the way they team for the people that could jump athletic, young players that all it takes is one shot to go in for them to be playing well.

It'll be all right. Sure. They get that momentum. They see two buckets going in. It's hard to stop a young man. Shit. But yeah, shout out to a lot of people. Cam Thomas, you know.

But getting buckets, 35 and 20 minutes and shit. All my guys, man. I wish I had to smoke. You feel me? It must be something about this box. I think it's this box that's... I don't think y'all are delusional.

I think the box is delusional. We're just going to throw it to the box. This box that I keep saying is the same box. The people that's in it just be just... Okay. Now, Nick, can we get an understanding here? What? When you say your guys, when you say corner guys,

Can we establish what a corner, an actual corner guy is? Who is the corner guy? Because you're grabbing guys that are not considered corner guys, and you're trying to pretend that the corner guys. Like, like, everybody, like, Cam Thomas is not a corner guy. He was the number one guy. Oh, stop, man. It's number one.

Stop, stop, stop. What is your corner guy? Pam Thomas is a corner guy. Like when Yannas come back, where he's going? I don't know when he, when, no, I don't care about to the corner. That's what the word. Wait, wait, hold on, hold on. That's what the corner guy is.

If you're not the star, if you're not the star, what are you? Second option. Oh, God. Our Vanderbilt, all of them second option. Everybody's. No, no, see, wait, I just said second option. No, if Vanderbilt's second option, then. That's what you're saying.

I'm saying if you're not the star, if your name is not the star of the team, who are you? No, if you're, no, there's, there's, there's, there's, there's, the, the, the, the, the number one player, then you have the second option, you have the third option, you have role players, and then you have these things called corner guys. Like, that, that means that's where they are. Corner guys, like, you get the ball in the corner when you're wide open. So, PJ Tucker, corner guys.

Right. Bruce Bowen. Hey, corner guy. Nobody was in a corner guy. I'm going to tell me about my... I'm going to tell me about my organization. Just stay in your lane.

That's what I'm asking you. Like, you... Like, you... Stay in your lane. Exel, what is a corner guy? Like, you... You just, you know what a corner guy is. Like...

You don't have to... You definitely know what a corner guy. It was a corner guy is. When? What year? When I was in Memphis? Yeah, Memphis, yeah. Orlando, yeah.

You even know when you was a star? Where do you tell niggas to go? So was Karana a corner guy? I'm asking the question, because that's an all-star. Was Antoine Jameson a corner guy? He wasn't the start, but no. So we have roles, so we know what corner guys are. Nick.

You average 18. He wasn't a corner guy when you was average 18. Yes, I was. You were elite corner I was an elite corner Because I knew my role When Kobe come back in I gotta get corner

When someone comes back And the corner You It's level to corners Nica, it's levels I get freedom Yes I'm an elite

I get freedom But when the star Come back in My road changed To the court I go back to where I belong Corner And wait

It's levels So when Kobe wasn't On this When he wasn't there What were you then? I'm still the corner You was a go-to guy And when option

When option one came back and you was number two You just sell You just said, Nicky I'm in the corner now I'm option two now Nigger you know that If you know when somebody comes back Your job is to go back to the corner What are you?

If you don't change the shit If Kobe came back and I'll put him in the corner Yes I'm a start now But if you know when Kobe comes come back, your ass is in a corner. What are you? What are you? It don't matter how many points you get,

but you know when a star come back, where do you go? Back to your position. Thank you. So what that makes me? What that makes me? A corner, niggily, it don't matter. I got to go back to my spot.

You are a corner with freedom. The nigger, the Sean Steven can have a thousand points when you was gone. But when you came back, where you put the Sean back? Okay, can I ask you? Now, I'm glad you said that. When I was out, when I was out, did Sean become the number one guy or the number two guy? Or was he just in his corner? Because a corner guy don't elevate.

Let's take dude. I don't know. James Harden Miss. PJ Tucker didn't do nothing different. He didn't have to go up or down. His role is his role. You're confused. You're confusing people.

I'm not. You're confusing people. How are you going to tell me what am I doing? Comes back. Where is he going to go? The corner guy don't, your job is the corner. I don't give the shit who's on the team.

I can tell you right now, Vando's the corner guy. LeBron can be missing. Luke could be not playing. Austin, weaves cannot be planned. His role will still be the same.

sit your ass in that right or left corner because either ruling's going to be taking more shots. They're going to be shooting a lot more shots. Van Gogh is still going to be ruined exactly what he's levels. It's levels. You can't tell me about the NBCP. You can't tell me about the National Basketball Corner Association. That's what I am.

The NBCP. Hey, that was. Hey, you can't tell me about that. I own this shit. Corner niggas could be versatile. You act like corner niggas can't be versatile. God damn. It's levels.

Sometimes people make it out the corner and become a star like AR. You can become a star. You can. Six men is not a little. You can. You can. It's hope for the corner. niggas sometimes.

You know? No, you know, there's a six men. That is a six man. That's the role. We are the elites. You remember your team? Okay, you remember Ryan Kelly? I don't give a fuck.

Who was missing? Who was missing on your team? Ryan Kelly was never going to get 10 to 15 shots. I don't care who was out there, right? You get in there. You sit in the corner. Huh? You sit in the corner.

He goes, my man, this is a bunch of D-League players. Sit your ass. at that corner, okay? Go back and forth from the corner, no matter who's playing. That was his level. Okay? His level was always level one or two.

If you made two shots, you got the level two. Other than that, you're level one. Corner don't get past level one, okay? I pretend it's crazy. All right, man, hey, Gil, you're no longer able to talk about corner. What's they are?

What's they are? A corner, a good corner, elite. Him? Me, Lou Will, he's on the board. Wait, Lou Will's a corner? You see what I'm saying? Wait, Lou Will's a corner? Gilles Swike has banned you from all corner discussions.

J.R. Smith was a corner? Yeah, he got banned, man, man, for real. Like, you're disrespectful. No, see, he's just mad because what happened was this is what happened with him. He was bawling. Kobe wasn't his, so he was talking that shit, right? And then what happened is he tried to zip her up. And then Kobe guys said,

Get your ass in that corner. You corner boy? Your corner boy. A corner boy. And that's where he, because I can tell you this, there was no corner talk when he was with the Wizards, when he was with Philly.

When he got, get your ass over there in that corner corner, and you just say that corner boy. And from there, he just figured he was a corner boy. Yeah, man. The corner naked came later on. in life. Once they start changing the game and doing analytics

and shooting threes, that's when the quarter-nigger came. But back then, the niggins didn't even shoot three. There wasn't no corners on the Wizards. And John Jameson, they was in the dunker corner. Him and Karan, that nail on the elbow, that was their corner.

They sit on the elbow, free-toe, that was his corner. Like, it's going in the 80s and shit. But now, as you get older, once you start hitting a hundreds, niggas, Niggas start inverting to that corner and sitting there. He's in the Dunker corners.

Antoine to do that damn floater from that dunker so fast. He'll hit that near. I think I throw up a hook shot dunker. I'm like, damn, how you release that bitch so fast? Digger was doing shit like this. Out of the corner, though. Antoine I do a reverse, nigga. Go to it way over here.

They're like, dude. I don't know why you're on. I'm sorry. He didn't shoot that shit. Did he shoot that crazy? He don't hit that thing in the dunger corner. Hey, I had the guard. Listen, I had the guard.

I had the guard. And so it's like, yo, that shit was awkward and fast. Hey, listen, absolutely. That bitch, that hits on the rim before you know it. Then he knows that bitch going to come off. If he misses, he's getting it right back in front of the rim and shooting it again before you react. Oh, shit. That's funny. The Ducker Cohn.

Everybody in the corner. Everybody in the corner. The NBCP. This was a Jonathan Kamegian discussion, but as we tend to do here on Gil's virtual arena, we will veer off the topic. That's what we was talking about. That's what we're talking about. That's what led to this particular situation. Oh, man.

I don't even know if I got to ask you about Kamika, but... No, you did not. Okay. My family was talking about it. See, that's how that goes. But you're happy to see Downey to Kamiga doing this thing. It's one game sample size that it is against the Washington Wizards.

As Gil said... As Skills said, hell yeah. No, man, it's good to see the young fill out that doghouse, man. He deserves an opportunity to go out and display a skill set. Hopefully it can be healthy for the rest of the year. Small sample size for Atlanta Falcons. I mean, Atlanta Hawks fans, 27 points and 24 minutes. So, yeah, that's a very bright spot for them.

They get Jalen Johnson back, get him healthy. They're in a playing game right now, so they might stay there. They might get the aid, whatever the case may be. But learning experiences, good for them to get some games under their belt playing together. Bring that young quarterback next year, I think it's going to be exciting. Yeah, I'm excited for John Dick Amiga, man, to be able to bounce back and get your joy back. You just see the smile on his face last night when he's playing. She's in the whole game.

The whole game, man. No, it's an opportunity, man. It's a weight lifted off his shoulder. It's a burden that he didn't deserve to have to carry. Being under Steve Kerr's watch. So, no, I'm something happy for him, man. I'm very happy for the kid. And Ken, like you said, I don't know about the whole.

this season, but just looking at that roster, that squad for the future. I think that that's a very exciting team in the Eastern Conference team that has the potential to do something. Absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah, like I said, if they get a playing game this year, I think the experience of being a playoff sort of style team, I think will help them moving forward. So, yeah, anywhere they finish right now, seven, eight, nine will be beneficial to them moving forward. I see you over there checking your phone, not looking in games. Yeah, when you said that, I was kind of confused.

Because I remember we were saying Trey Young was taking some bullshit to the playoffs. Then you said that young court, they're going to be good. So I wanted to go and look. And, okay. Seems like that court would benefit with Trey playing, but that's my personal opinion. We got Jaydon Johnson. We got him. All right.

And then, okay, we got Walker. Okay, he was there. Then Tray Young 19 is not there anymore. McCulles 18. He just got there. So he's not going to be dead. And you got Porzingis. He's not going to be dead.

And he can't shoot. Let's talk about what we do have. Number one pick average in 10. You got Dyson Daniels? Sure do. Yes. And cap space. Proceed.

How come, like, okay, I know, I know Bronny's famous. I get that part. But he's not that famous enough to forget that the number one guy is, he does play. A lot. And nothing? Like, we've never, no one's ever mentioned. the number one player in the draft ever. They foreign.

That's like, you're talking about porn. Yeah, but Brody was the biggest name in that draft. No, but I get like, you know how we talk about Castle? Like,

Castle, yeah, we, Castle, yeah, you know what I mean? Like, right. The number one, usually the number one pick

is, is featured at some point. It's, it's, it's year two. Is that all we research? average in 10 and it's just I don't know so you think so so you're saying like

so you're saying like if this was Cooper Flagg they'd be on his head right now yeah we don't talk about foreigners like that right because super flag got murdered for having two against okay C he won't even bawling if Cooper flag was putting up those numbers this season we would be packing them up yeah so I'm saying like yeah it'll be more

of a absolutely Did they, it's like, did they, he was just like, okay, he's not gonna be good, we're just gonna please ask anyway. Like,

I was just trying to take it right. No. He's got a ball of a passes. Huh? He's definitely getting the pass. I don't know why, but he's definitely getting the pass. There's not all of them.

Not all of them. We didn't have a hype behind them. Yeah. A score? There ain't nobody watching the Hawks play. So they're saying, they're saying that they didn't really have any hype behind them. then they're two French guys.

Yeah, I did. They just picked them. Sorry. So they're flying the radar. You, let's go. Come on. Yeah, they can fly on his radar. So they could keep pushing the narrative.

But that brings us to our next topic, I think, is a perfect time to segue. So there's been a lot of hate and criticism towards American basketball development at the grassroots level. Kevin Durant has had enough. So during a recent interview with ESPN's Vince Goodwill, where he stated his desire to play with Team USA in the 20208 Olympics, Durant also has some interesting comments on all the hate that AAU gets compared to the European model saying

quote, I just don't like to talk around the USA versus European style of how you approach the game. All I hear is AAU is destroying the game. The Euros do it right while the Americans do it wrong. It's a lot of bullshit with that. I can read between the lines on that. It's a shot at black Americans.

We're controlling the sport. They're tired of us controlling the sport. They say France is coming for you. Really? We smacked them, boys. And after the Rockets win over the Jazz Monday, DeReynett elaborated on his feelings towards a criticism that American grassroots basketball gets. So let's play that clip if we have it.

Ready to go. Uh-uh. They're pulling it up. Let me tell you get a backstage look in how we accomplished this virtual show. Let's go, KD! I mean, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, H.O. These H.A.

Uh, workers outside. They, they need to give the neighborhood, you know, Everybody houses clean, but God damn, wrong time. Let's go, KD! So let's listen to what KD had to say. Big KD. Negative talk about the AAU and how it has disrupted the game of basketball. AU's been around 40, 40, 50 years, and we're all a proud of the AU.

A lot of us are a proud of the AAU, and it changed our lives. Being able to leave our neighborhood and go play against the best around the country at an early age. So I don't want to undercut what AAU means to the game of basketball, but also European style guys coming over earlier. Luke was caught 15, 14. That's still a great way to go, too. So many different routes to make it to the lead. So I don't want to.

I kind of hate when they disrespect to AADU route. Hit KD. Swaggy, I see you flexing your muscles in support of Kevin Durant. So we will start with you, Swaggy. Thoughts on KD defending AAU and the AMA. American grassroots basketball system. Oh, man, I love it, man. Just that all you hear is European this, European that,

you're not doing it right. I feel like, just like what we were just talking about, they get a lot of passes. Even the comparisons now, they don't, they're able to just play free, shoot the ball, don't have to worry about defense and all that, and don't get criticized for it. Like, little things like that.

I think we made it easy for him over here. Made it easy for him. Even with Luca, like, if he was, him and Trey Young, similar to school, similar to everything, but Luca's up here and Trey Young is down here. In one of those aspects, I just, I just love it. I love it.

I love it. I love it when people like KD speak up for us, for sure. Obviously, AAU system has produced a lot of high-quality talent that we still continue to see Team USA won five straight gold medals in the Olympics going up against the world in their system. But Mr. B, when you hear KD making these comments about the AAU game and the state of American grassroots basketball, what are your thoughts on that?

I mean, he is speaking facts. It has done a lot for us that come out of the AAU circuit and being able to travel and do all these things. But, you know, AAU has changed a lot. Now, you know, kids are able to get paid in high school, you know, NIL deals and different things. So the meaning of AAU isn't the same anymore like it used to be. I still feel like the development, the fact that AAU is just all weekend games is based on rankings, it's based on popularity and things like that.

So it does lack a bunch of the fundamentals and the IQ of the game. So those are the things that it does lack from playing with your high school basketball team in high school. If I went to O'Kill or I went to a Dominguez or, you know, modern day or these, I actually being able to be taught. AAU's just, you got to be good and just run out there and play. So. So KU. Let's move on to you. When you hear KD, speaking up and clapping back at all the criticism that AAU gets compared to the European model, how do you feel about that? from not mistaken, he has an AAU program, so I'm not surprised that he would speak up for the AAU system.

That said, I agree. There's a lot of discourse around the way the game is being taught to the youth. And I've been a part of it. Been a part of it. I've seen the good and the bad of it. Like you said, a lot of us are products of playing. AAU basketball. So it has his

positive moments but it's become this thing where it's looked at as a money grab in a lot of situations instead of focusing on kids getting better. I don't think we should be

rankings fifth, six, seven, eighth graders. I'm saying? I just, I think it's pointless. Right? to be putting rankings next to kids because you don't know what they're going to become. Some paying out, some don't.

So I think it's a false sense of gratification, right? To be ranked in the seventh grade. Like, who cares? Like, let's go get better. Right? Let's go get better at the game. Let's go get better at the footwork. Let's go get better at the fundamentals at those ages.

And I think it'll be beneficial moving forward in that regard. But, yeah, for Katie to speak up, I'm not surprised. He speaks his mind. And for him to have an AAU program and to have it for years now, I can understand there's frustration with people taking shots at the AAU system. So, yeah, I get it. So I get where he's coming from. But there's people have left room for criticism with it.

So, but, like, yes, I get what he's coming from, yeah. And that's, like, too, that doesn't mean that the European model can't be criticized as well. Obviously, I think Katie also mentioned how the game is growing globally, and that's a testament to what's been done

at the grassroots level American basketball AAU producing such high level, high quality talent. The world is sought to try to replicate it. But, Gil, let's move on to you. What do you think about Katie, clapping back at all the critics of AAU? Um, you know, just so hard to find them. in this long list of all-stars and superstars.

Man, Brandon, I mean, you know, I think, you know, after, you know, the All-Star game, he doesn't kind of change your tone a little bit about the... I haven't changed shit. I haven't changed the fucking thing. He's kind of very... I mean, that's what he said. That's fine. He can say what the fuck you want to say.

I'm not changing my fucking pan on what I feel about the Europeans. They're busting our ass. So get your fucking AAU programs and shit together At the end of the fucking day At the end of the fucking day It's still what it is At the end of the day it's still what it is Top five fucking players in the NBA

Are from fucking overseas So we get that part I don't get what I don't get what about all that So you canning him I'm always talking ain't changing for shit You always lean on the championship I get that The AAU program

is, well, that's youth basketball, right? Right? Right. It's youth, right? Yeah, that's all right. So if they're developed and we're undeveloped and we meet at, like, USA basketball and the undeveloped keeps winning gold every year, what are we talking about? Like, when we, yes, when we say, when we say all-star game, meaning the best 24 P.D. here.

Right? That means all the Americans went through AAU, and then the foreigners, right, had to go through whatever prestige program that they went through. The one that came from his country, right? Just the one that came from his country. Wouldn't it be upside down? Shouldn't it be 20 foreigners for Americans?

Because we are not that good. Well, I mean, I'm tired. Well, I mean, it's an American. I'm tired of this bullshit conversation of one person coming out of his country. And we should shift our whole program. Be tired. Our whole program. You're going to have to.

One one Greek guy who's our color. Serbian. Who's playing like us. Running motherfuckers over. It's from over there. Jola B. Who's from his country. He got our ass.

Abuse? Uh-huh. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. And we're pretending that the rest of the world is actually doing this. Okay. How about this?

We'll find it. Where's your, where's Jokish from? Survey. Is there another, is there another one that is. Don't need to be. Don't need to be. I'm asking a question. You're telling them, you know, you need to be a program.

That's a program. So, you're asking you ask, is there. another one from his country don't need to be one that is playing high level basketball in the NBA don't need to be one we got is there another

from Greece is there another from Italy in today's game is there another from what I'm saying is you're telling us our shit is broken our shit is broken

our shit is broken our shit is the best they're you program is broken. The best thing is in the league are from overseas. Dude, dude, do, do, stop. Like, if you're here. No, you stop.

No, you stop. You stop. Nobody care about the A.U. Fuck, fuck all that. Well, I say, my point is, my point is that the best players. Oh, yeah, back then it was the shit. Back then it was the shit. Now that shit is trash.

Go out of here. I got out of here. Fuck you talking about. Fuck out of here. The best five players in the NBA are from overseas. What the fuck you're talking about? I don't care. go but the best fine that's what all my conversations been that that's all they got that's all that

that's all they need that's what they need that's all they need that's all they need and it's going to be like that for the next 10 years it's going to be like that for the next 10 years hold on hold on you're talking about that's it's going to be like this for the next 10 years you're talking about all these different countries that got these five players these five players and all these different countries how many fucking countries is that all of those countries have the same formula They got one player that is gifted, and they're pouring at the country's pouring everything. That's like being the NBA player from fucking, you know what?

That's like being LeBron James from Akron, Ohio. And then we say, hey, the rest of the states, fuck your program, do what Cleveland did, do what Akron did, because LeBron James came from it. Should. Maybe you should have. Maybe you should have. Maybe you should have.

Maybe you should have. Because Luke a whole country is working with him. It's a bunch of different countries. They ain't just one. It's a bunch of different countries. And his father played basketball. And those two genes created that. Okay.

Well, shit. Stop letting people from overseas come over here. There's a Yao coming out of China. And she out here duck it on motherfuckers. Because of Yao Ming and the mama six damn nine, obviously the product is going to be better. Look at Yonis. Oh, my God.

All these excuses. Excusees. Look at Yonis and his brother. All these excuses. That is three NBA player. All these exorcists. All these excuses. All these excuses.

There's no excuses. It is excuses. Shit, you mad because some kids that grew up overseas that dream to come play in the NBA and they dominated. Now you mad? No, no, no. Get your shit together over here. No, get your shit together over here when it comes to development.

Listen, at the end of the day, at the end of the day, these five European players international players over here they're going to be running the league for the next 10 years so it don't matter so all this a and you shit it don't matter it don't matter five six it's going to be more like

you're saying like for the last 10 years so you keep saying that you keep leading on there running the lead the problem is we're not saying who's the best we know those five are the best

you're saying tear down out of proble you're saying and tear down our program. Figure it out. 98% of the superstars in the NBA are American. It's an American sport, I would hope. It's an American sport, I hope. It's an American sport, I fucking hope.

Shit, it's easy to make it. You're fucking American. You can speak English. You better be able to make the motherfucker. God damn. What are you talking about? The fucking you talk, it's American a sport. Like shit.

God damn. Like, they got the easier access. Of course you shouldn't make it to the NBA You're talking about some dude that's from fucking Africa that barely got shoes That can barely speak a fucking language Pick up a ball and learn that 16 And come over and dominate

Man watch out And you're... Man, watch out Man, go get your development ready Go get your development ready All that money to you're giving to these kids Go put that shit back into the gym Like it was back in the day.

Fuck out of here, man And you're telling us You're telling us that's what they have over there and you want us to do that. I didn't say you have to do that. What I'm saying is figure it out, do something. You got all this other access, and they're still coming over here.

Dump is, dude, it's six guys right now. You're talking about figure it out. Figure something out. I mean, what? I was number one. Just because there was a foreigner that was drafted number one. How's he doing? How's his development?

Yeah. How's the number two? We got to see. We got to see. We got to see. All I know is, All I know is the other international players, they're kicking. That's all I can go by.

Until you find me a, find me one American player that's better than, find me an American player that's better than these international players. Find me one. That's better than the top. No, no, no, I'm going to. I'm going to. I'm going to. I'm going to.

I'm going to. Until you find the fucking answer, I'm going to. As I say, find me, find me one. That's like, that's like, that's like great music industry. And they pretend all of Canada's doing it. It's just the gifted one. Not all of Canada. What are you talking about?

Justin Bieber? The weekend. Justin Bieber, the weekend. They're not. Justin Bieber, the weekend, Terry Lines. That, but, okay. There's other places. You can't.

You can't. You're not. You're talking about. What are you talking about this? I'm making percentage. Like, it's one person from this country, one person from this country, one person from this country.

All right. That's great. They're talented. The one thing that they all got, genetics from their parents. that makes them 6-11, 6-10, 6-11, 6-9s, and they're good at what they do. But don't pretend that the country,

the country is doing this to the point where we need to follow, we need to follow this one in a zillion product. Well, he better figure something out because, it's not going to be another group from his country. Better figure something out for the next 10 years. from his country. We don't know that.

We don't know that. We don't know that. We don't know that. You don't know what guy got in story. You don't know that. You don't know that. You don't know that at all. Overseed, you feel like you develop more

and over there than when he was out here. Man, all I'm saying is the game has changed. The game is changed. The game has changed. The game is changed. The game is change. The game is saints. So you said you learn more and that one.

I went to talk to. I went top 10. I didn't play. Yes. Yeah, so you didn't learn shit over there. You didn't talk. Yeah. I went to top 10.

Exactly. Exactly. I went over there and developed. American shit? Anyways. No. American shit. No.

No. Went over there. Down. Uh-huh. Didn't do shit. And you still got. I did do shit. The only reason why I didn't get drafted high.

The only reason why I didn't get drafted high because I ran my mouth. That's the only reason why. Don't play about my game. Don't play about my game. Don't play about my game. No, no. No. Don't play about my game.

No, no, don't play about my game. No, you said I went over there and didn't do nothing. Yes, I went over there and did something. Did you play? I did play. I played enough to get. You got drafted. I got drafted tip because I ran my mouth, because I ran my mouth.

Because I know. I went to me not. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, no. Listen to what you're saying. No, no, I'm not. No, you said I went over there, didn't do nothing. I went over there. I did do something.

I went 10. I would have went to top five if I didn't run my life. So stop saying. So stop saying. You came over here. You was here, right? You was, you developed here, right? You was number one here, right? I mean, I'm an American player.

Everything you did, Winking, your development, your average in this, you led the state in the country, you did that here, right? You went over there. Did you play a game over there? Yes. did play games. You played in a Euro game? I played in all, I played in games over there. Yes. Showing some footage. You thought I went over there and didn't play? Go on YouTube.

You didn't play not one game over in Euro. I did. I did go play in Europe. Why would I, why would they take me over there? Did you perform over there? I did go play in Europe. I went top 10. You went over. Okay, I see I saw your word play. You went over there. I went over to I played in a basketball game. What I'm saying is you was a lottery pick. You was a lottery pick. No, I wasn't. You was a lottery pick because of what you did from America.

They didn't need your year or nothing. You was balled out of the year. I wasn't a lottery. They had me going 21. They had me going 21. So I wasn't a lot of me. Number one. Why are you lying in these?

Oh, man. God, damn. Go ask my agent. Build up me the same day. They said I wasn't going lottery. Why you think I didn't go? I knew you. They was like, yo, we got to bring the kiddies number one.

He wants your shoes. Young money on it. Was that from Italy? Young money? Did you forgot? Yeah, yeah, yeah. What does that have to do? What does that have?

What does that have? What does that have? What does that? Was you a product of Euro? Or was you the first American high school player to lead and go over there? I was the first American House of course. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Leave that dusty overseas shit over there. We'll take the gold and the diamonds. You can lead that silver, them silver players, don't talk about my talents. Them peso players, them penny players. You keep their asses over there. Don't talk about my tires. We'll see them during the Olympic time.

You know how they got an Olympic team and they got like 14 other players that we've never heard of? Yo-kish and you're all right. You're all-Benzhen. Okay. I'm talking about my talent. I'm just saying.

Are they all brothers? I'm just, I'm confusing. Okay? Right here, what we're doing right here, okay, some of it needs to be cleaned up. I'm getting you. But the product of the top tier is still the product of the top tier. The top tier always. gets to the top.

It's a money grab, but the money grab is the low level where I know this kid should be playing at the park league. I know his mother's going to start a team up, and I'm going to coach the team, and I'm going to get a whole bunch of his friends, and we're going to go to every AAU team

or whatever game. We're going to get blown out by 45, of course, but I get the money. That's what happened here. But the product itself, the top tier, That's still moving like gold. Of course.

It's America. Yeah, thank you. Yeah, thank you. Now put your flag back on. It's our league. It's our league. It's our league. Put that American flag back on.

Yeah. Brother, you know that you know this color is only good every four years. Okay. Every four, every four. Until until, until one of us start cracking in that top five, I can't.

I can't. And it's look like we're going to be here for a long. long time. So, so, so, Mr. technically,

technically, what are you know, thank you. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Thank you.

He's not European. He's international. Ken, do we need a passport? Do we need a password to get in Canada? For what? But SGA played A.

He did a passport to get in Canada. Yeah, with the college here, with the college here, and AAU basketball in the United States. In the Olympics, who is he playing for?

this country where he was born where his daddy was born so international players top five international players are running the league he ain't from him and then we really want to be technical if we want to be technical to get us some more do it can you

Janice is naive Nigerian he's from Africa he's African he's African he's African he's African like we learned it in history but it's what we say hey

that's all on If we've been technical here, like, if we're being technical, Shane is a Canadian, he's a Northern American. James Naismith, born in Canada. Our money look different. Our money look different. That's fair. There's a fine product for America.

A great trade relationship in years past. What American do to you, man? What does America do to you? And right now, Cade. Ain't nothing, man. I just don't like the fact. Yeah, for showing that top. Right now, Cade, the top five.

All right, let's wait to the end of the year. Right now, Catee. Right now, Cade, top five. No, no, no, no, no, listen, if Keene ain't going to say that, then let's wait to the end of the year, then. Yeah, right now, Cade, top five, babe. Kate, Victor, you know what I mean? Just because they went over there and he was born there,

but the parents is the parents, you know what I mean? If I go to France, like if I go to France, because my wife is French, my kid is American. Even if he's born in. He's American. What if he's born in France, kid? He came from these American bones. 50-50. And we train him. So if he's 6-9 playing point guard, God damn it, you're claiming them here.

No, wait, hold on, Gil. But he's going to play a national team here because he's probably going to be the man. So we, you know, we're going to figure that out. throw the USA flags in the chat please if you don't mind I just you know like supporting this great nation that's so much Gilz Arena is a product of AAU 2014

I was so disappointed in America why I never ever ever ever remember I came into basketball 92 the summer okay the Olympics

I don't know if you was around it, Ken you. That was a good time. I was in basketball. Like, we was, I was even buying the women's jersey. That's how big it was being pushed. There you're talking about that. Not negative. The first time we heard something negative was probably 20,

the 2014, maybe. When they lost with Melo. I've never seen a bunch of reporters hoping, praying. that the American team got beat. Yeah, that was crazy. Like, wait, what? That's the only time we, we, we, we, we're supposed to come together here. Like, I mean, but, like, do you remember, like, I know you don't remember 1920s and 30s, right?

But Olympic time, the black people, they was love during the Olympics, boy, they were, like, so much hate this, the 2024 was crazy. Brandon was one of them I don't know I don't know I'm talking about the Burdard's playing Hey Hey

Hey Hey Hey yo do you think that has to do with the with the players The international players in the NBA Is the reason why It's a bra It was just a brawl

They hated that she Because it was the wrong The brawl was on it That's it I put it like this. LeBron James is not on this one. It's going to be loved. I'm about to say.

So LeBron not playing with this way and everything go back to normal. Yeah. Even like the Jason Tatum thing, right? If we go back and look at any other year, I guarantee there was a superstar on there that we thought should have played but didn't play, but nobody cared. Because it was about the team.

The first team all NBA guy? NBA champion. I doubt that. I doubt they're very serious. A first team all-NBA guy. Okay, maybe not that. Not a chance. Coming off an NBA championship?

Not a chance. I know Shaquillo, Dave and White and average 30 and 12, 30 and 10, and they came off the bench on their Olympic team. They played. They're white played over. 30 and 12 off the football.

Oh, yeah, both of them. Jesus. Right. That's retarded. 30 and 20. Yeah. Unstoppable. And the follow-up question for you guys on this whole AAU discourse,

for everybody who seems to be so pro, the European style, and the European model, it seems like there's enough resources and money here in America to do that, but is college the issue? Is that the roadblocks to... It used to be. What? It used to be. Because what's the problem?

Like, why can't you just introduce that model here? We hear even Adam Silver talking about how great the European model is, prioritizing practice and development, blah, blah, blah. Why can't you just do this shit here? Because, Kyle, you are, people have been taught or heard for so long you ought to go to college, right? It's what you've been here forever instead of people that know what they're professional. Like, you know what you're going to try to be in this world, right?

But they force motherfuckers to go to school. Like, no, man, like, trust me. There's a lot of guys that went to school that had no intentions. on that. They force me into this. That's why when guys could make the decision that's 17, 18 years old to go to the NBA,

like Brandon, they did, right? Too good for that. I'm not going to go that route. No, they're not going to force me to go do that. And now they've made it a way where guys

can make that decision now to go get some money and get paid and somewhat be treated as a professional athlete, but you're still in college. Yeah. So that's, yeah, it's still handicapped to a certain degree.

There's still laws in place, still rules in place that still makes college relevant to whatever degree. Yeah, that's my only point. And we know that, but why is that still a roadblock? Again, if you want to praise that style and everybody, we need to be like that, we can't, oh, we can't do that here. Oh, you can circumvent it. Yeah, we can do it here, though. Like, you can circumvent it like we did, like KJ did. It's a grew state.

If you graduate high school, you just have to be one year removed. Like Brandon did, you have to be one year removed. They don't say you've got to go to college. So you just got to find what route is the best for the person. Everybody wants. And I get why they did away with the fresh out of high school thing because it was some people that were putting their name in the NBA draft that wasn't deserving to put their name in NBA draft

and had no future at playing an NBA, right? So I get why they did away with it. Yeah, but you had a future, though. You and you were... No, no, they told me, uh... He said, I tried. Take my ass to school. Yeah, yeah, so they probably saw it.

It would have probably been rough. If you're trying to come out now, they're going to make you the poster boy and why not come out of high school. Yeah, so you listen, right? Yep. Hey, some dudes didn't then. Somebody heard that same message before they told you.

that, Nick, right? They told somebody else that same message. For sure. I guarantee they took their what's the big white kid? Robert Swift. Oh, yeah? I remember him. I played against him. No way feasible. He should have been putting his name in the NBA draft, though.

Robert Swift. No way feasible. That kid had no reason to ever, but somebody hyped him up and they told him probably and the damn thing fat me was greasing. you know there's a test going on right now

and you know there's this thing called college basketball right and you know how they had the NIL because there's this big discourse of European players are the thing people don't realize college basketball's

flooded with Euro pros. See, Euro don't have AAU.AU. They have pros. So they turn pro. So it's even worse than us because they're getting paid for it. They're not even going to school. So these Euro pros who's been pro since 14, they are 22, 23,

coming in to college basketball right now. Yeah. Have you heard of one of them yet? You're going to stand out. You got kids who've been playing pro basketball with adults since 14, 15 years old. They're coming in college. They're the oldest and the more ready. But they're not dominating.

I'm confused here because that's what the colleges thought. They thought, hey, why pay a freshman four-star, five-star when we can go get some of these kids over the world? of these pros, these brothers, bring them over here. They're seven foot. We got 6-11, 7-foot after our 4 and 5. They've been playing pro for 20, fucking 10 years now. They're 23 freshmen. Because you know why, Gere?

Because they got motherfucking Ray, Ray. That's some goddamn Memphis. They got a 47. And they don't have it. You got a 47-minute's vertical. So he's out there, motherfucker. Hey, hey, they're looking like I'm thinking like, where the year?

Because I'm looking at these names. I go to the college, looking at the college board, and it's, here you go. Like, because this is, this is pay to play now. So just like our media is doing it, the college is thinking the same way, we're going to go out there and go get the pros from overseas, bring them over here, bring some of them a Euro kid,

because we can pay them more. So you got to think about the NIL money has changed everything because the Euro kids that are making 200,000, 300,000, hey, I can pay you a million, million five. They're like, oh, hell yeah. Do you think that draft last year fucked up the European scoring draft? Nah.

Being drafted like no one and stuff. So, see. In the last two years, yeah, yeah. Did any Europeans go high this past draft at Cooper Fly? I don't know. Like you... And not this year... Vijay, BJ would be considered, you know, Bohemian,

but, you know. from over, I mean, from outside of here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You need a passport to get there. Yeah, it was heavy. Yeah, always say, you need a passport to get there. He went to here. Hey, three at a top.

Three of the top ten are international. So V.J. Igor Denham, who went to the Nets, and then Kamen Malik, who went to Duke, was from South Sudan. See, the problem, the problem is this. Like, if, when you're talking about the European

and you got Euro in your mind, you have to really be careful because you got Saur, right? Who should have been the number one pick? Right? He fits the model of everyone that's been dominating. Six, eight, I mean, six, ten, eleven, seven foot, you know, got the skill, can shoot, can play D, can jump him.

Then you got a six eight. Shooting guard. That's not athletic, not too, but fast. Like, what is this? Like, you know what I mean? Like, there's no standout here. Why would I pick him, number one? He has, there's no attributes that outshine.

He doesn't have an advantage over everybody. That's why when he got here and he said, oh, man, it was way more athletic than I thought. Right? So, you know what I mean? So he, you can see that was going to be a thought. They're not really athletic like that, though. But height helps you, though.

Oh, Europeans? Oh, yeah. They're not. You're not looking like you could. But you got to think about it. Like when you're talking about your friends, right? France has what? How many people, how many kids in, what, 12, 13?

Been a major influx. They're black. Right? So they got to athleticism. He just didn't have it. But the rest of them, dude. So obviously, he was friends and all black people. He's just seven six.

Yeah. Yeah, but why do they do that? in the draft. Like, they'll draft a guy like Wimby, and then they'll try to go get another one, like the next year after that. Copy that way. Like, you know what I'm saying?

Like, it's like they, like, I feel like they do that a lot, though. Like they. No, okay, listen, I played with Turquilup, right? And I was, when I got drafted, we had, um, I've had a foreigner, I've had a foreigner.

We had, what the hell was his name? Yuri. I had Yuri. he was he was cool like he was shifty kind of like a genoblee style but wasn't really truly genobley right so when you're talking about

the European player you remember you're talking about the one star from the country so when you're drafting this player you have to understand if he is that good the system has to be for him because that's why he's shining

Right? So if you're not smart enough to understand what you're drafting, like if I'm drafting yokeage and I'm looking at him, the reason he is this dominant over there is because of the elements he has. So if I'm going to put him on my team, I'm going to put these elements around him for him to look the way he was looking for me to draft him. You can't just drive. I'm just going to draft him, right? And then he's just part of my team and he's part of my system. either I'm going to pick him for a role player or I'm going to pick him for being a star Giddy was a role player in O KC they put the ball in his hand

over here he looks different right Luca got drafted in Dallas they had Dennis Smith Jr., right? Kind of look like they were clashing a little bit trying to figure out who the ball then I was like, you know what, we'll just give him the big one the ball, let's see what he does with it

and now you can see what it is. But I, I, like, even with the, we had Turk, I'm like, well, put the ball in Turk hand, and then we just move off a Turk. It's like a European player, think of it is, you think of them as a point guard. How we think our point guards, our old school point guard, the Jason Keyes and all of them, that's the European player, no matter the height. If you get a center, he's a thinker, right? He's looking for the back doors.

He's, you know, he's doing all of that. Yeah, it's a, you can put them in the triangle. That's the, that's the group you put in a triangle or the, or the Pist, or the Princeton. Yeah, he did, yeah, yeah, he did, eat it up. Besides, Yon. Yon, Janus is one of us. You can, you know, like he was, like he was, like he's from Compton or somewhere, just. Give him the box.

He from Watts. He from South. part of combe from their French part of conference. Oh, man. Chris, Chris Boss, something to happen with Chris Boss? Mm-hmm. Oh, y'all recovery.

I guess something happened, he blacked out and, uh, like that was, uh, woke up in blood. So, uh, oh, shit. All right, wishes out to, uh, to Chris, to Chris, to Chris Bosch, man. Oh, facts. Speedy recovery to Chris. boss.

Yeah, he was looking to be alive after he woke up in his own blood after collapsing while getting ready for a date night with his wife. Damn, you should never report people with stuff like that. Let's Josiah do that. Thank you, Swike. Yeah, he dropped the video on social media today. He said he has no memory of it. He had black eyes from slamming his face on the ground.

Also swear the word to be grateful for this life and for not taking things for granted. And that is actually a good segue to us. I think we should all be thankful for this life. Yeah. And do not take things for granted as well. Definitely. Don't take star players for granted. Don't take corners for granted. Huss. Listen,

listen, we should all get some rest. I don't know what's going to happen tomorrow, right? He woke up in blood. I'm going to have my head. I'm going to have my hand on the, uh. Can't walk up in blood. Hey, we should drink tomorrow.

So I'll take a shot. Nah, hell no. As you know, we used to turn up in the arena. Some got more turned than others. Interesting shows and content. Hey, and chat, stop asking me why I don't have some. I don't make the schedule. Okay?

The schedule is made like it's made every goddamn week. Okay? Every month. Every month. Every month. Every month. We know in advance what show we're going to do. and not we don't deliberately time things or now let me address that real quick because the chad be like oh you didn't have such a such on a day or whatever that's the schedule that schedule is put out we are here too i check the schedule myself every night to see if my name is on there if it is i come to work if it's not if it's not i do whatever the point i want to do with that particular time off but that schedule is put in advance obviously we have rachad on yesterday rashad refuted some stories going out about him from darren williams and others from other podcasting networks that are competing with us

They're in the same league as we'll say. Division, sport, if you will. Niche, genre, whatever may be. I think they're cultural. They're just more cultural, but. It's a friendly podcast, man. They just, they vibe. So it has something said by Rashad, Rashad,

addressed those yesterday on the show, Rashad. Not on the show today. Rashad will be on the show tomorrow. If he wants to address what was said today by them, he's more than happy to do so. Or, or he cannot. And he can do it tonight or go live.

You just suggest that our personal problems going on our own lot, but no, this is Gil's Arena. We are in arena. Gilson. Gilson,

no more personal shit on here, everybody just keep that shit right. I've seen that shit. Right? I just knew he was going to do that. What? troll, right? I knew it was coming too.

Right after me and kids, that's our saying. I don't know. Then you go with you, so you were by yourself, so he turned it into something else. Bro, bro, we've been trolling the whole day. You said, you ever quit? I know. Yep.

Yeah. I'm just saying, how do I'm supposed to know? I wasn't, I don't do. I don't know. The only experience I know personally, So I'm going to troll you on. I know what you want me to say. But what you do to me.

I'm not going to say what you want me to say. I'm about, I'm about to go get a drink. I'm about to go to age you get a drink. You're serious right now? I'm going to do the same shit you'll do to me. I don't have to say what you want me to say. I can't. I can't.

Unnecessary. That's why I got. That's why I got what you was doing. But everybody else didn't get to there. Oh, man. Stop. Because it was serious. Yeah.

I don't want to be. I don't have to be. Okay. Yeah, we're well aware. We're well aware. We know. We know. I'm probably going,

I'm probably going to be on bullshit tomorrow. Depending on how the first seven minutes be. Okay. No, actually, it's depending on what happened in Arc Raiders in the morning, right? Man, if I'm having a good feeling, I'm playing good, people are dying, right? You're saying, right? Then I'm good.

If I can't. Two out of three. Which, embark, thank you for getting, getting all my stuff back that was cheated. Thank, appreciate you. If I get robbed and cheated and then I'm really aggressive, you know,

I might be on some bullshit, but you'll know the first five, six minutes. That's two out of three. We will know. Only one thing I'm a fake, nigga. I said. No, see, just making up stuff like, no, I just, I just said, you know.

Only one thing I'm a fake, nigga. I said, oh, my God. I know. I'm just saying. If you win the first man, you're quitting. That's what you said. I was like that. That's all the memory I got.

On that note, ladies gentlemen, the antitia that hype has been built up. Rashad is on the show tomorrow. It'll be wrong if I have the cemetery in the back. And then I wear a suit with black. I'll just, you know, I'll be swinging them tomorrow while y'all trolling one or whatever. I'll be swinging them.

I'm just, I'm just, I'm just come. I'm going to go. I'm just going to go. Right? Yeah, I'm just going to go. Right. Yeah.

I'm, I'm going to help myself, right? I was thinking, I'm about, I'm about to the range now. I'm about to go to the range now, man. He said, you think of a quitter? No, not the mother. You?

Yes. No. He asked this asshole first, man. This asshole just off top. Like, come on, man. I think you presented it to the group and then Gil tried to do it. Yeah.

No, no, no, he went, then he went, no, he asked us individually. Oh, yeah. I'm looking at the social cut that they put together. No, he asked us individually, and this asshole went first. He asked this asshole first, and this asshole just says yes off the top. Well, he didn't even get the question out good. This is, this is fucking ass, boy. Listen, man.

The reason is, because this wasn't on the rundown, I didn't know what we was going to talk about. I didn't know this was going to be a thing. But once the ass, I kind of got a little hit, so I just went with it. Of course you need. Unnecessary. Unnecessary jab. Now I was playing around.

That niggas get serious. Yeah. Unnecessary jack. He don't do that tomorrow? But once again, Rashob will be in the virtual arena tomorrow. If he chooses to address whatever been said, he is more than welcome to do something. We're going to address it. We're going to ask you.

I saw him at the gym this morning. He came by the gym. gym this morning, so, hey. Seems like, yeah, I mean, it's gonna have to do it. He said he was looking for the heavy bag, so, hey. Technically, they, they went hard this morning.

I'm pretty sure we all, we will see it as soon as we get off the air. So, yeah, we will check it out for research purposes only, but appreciate everybody in this chat for pulling up today. I appreciate everybody supporting the virtual arena while we wait to get our new studio lockdown. We appreciate the love

and support of y'all all shown. I appreciate everybody. We can say it again, a studio. My house was in the studio. It was nice. And then we outgrew the basement. You don't have to explain the climate. You don't have to explain the climate. I don't need to explain that dirt.

You know what? I'm not going to do that. Yeah. On that, that no. We're going to get to that dirt. We're going to get to that dirt. We're going to do it. We're going to another studio. The Gills Arena studio is still down there.

I'll probably be coming down there by myself. Well, with the guys, but we got to keep it small, you know, like five. They said the five to seven people. They don't want 30, they don't want the Wu-Tan clinic here no more. That's all they say. No more Wooten. But the fact that we have two shows and we have a, we have a staff about 30 people sometimes, there's so many.

So they like the university. to that in dirt? I ain't got to explain to that in dirt, damn. I wasn't, I wasn't talking to him. The old me almost came out. On that night. We don't want the old you coming out. This has been another episode of Gil's Arena

presented by Underdog. We will see y'all tomorrow. Hey!