Gil's Arena - The Miami Heat HAVE NO CHANCE In The NBA Finals
Episode Date: May 30, 2023Jimmy Butler Leads The Heat to The NBA Finals as Gilbert Arenas and the Gils Arena Crew recaps the Eastern Conference Finals against the Miami Heat. Other NBA Topics Include - Scottie Pippen's comment...s on Michael Jordan, Bob Myers Dismissal from Golden State and The NBA Coaching Carousel. Gil's Arena is NOW LIVE. Every Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GILSARENA and get a $100 first deposit match: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gi... Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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We got a lot to get into and I know Nuggets head coach Mike Malone is really
gonna appreciate this first segment. We got to talk a little bit about LeBron. So, LeBron had
his haters in their feelings this weekend with an IG story. In the post, Bron dropped a Jay-Z bar from What More Can I Say off the Black Album.
Supposed to be number one on everybody's list. We'll see what happens
when I no longer exist.
With the old school photo.
Are you not entertained?
It's cool, but to me, it just seems like right now,
it's not your time for attention.
You know, like, it's not.
He posted as a story.
It's not his time.
Like, I love LeBron.
I get it.
But I just feel like he's not a topic right now.
Who is?
LeBron.
Who's the topic?
The playoffs, who people are still playing.
And he wanted to be about him
That's why he fake made that I'm thinking about retiring. Oh
Hiring. Oh, he wants the attention on him right now and I get it, but it's kind of not cool. We do too
He's the only time he needs that attention. I mean look at the team's that's in there
We do too. All right, LeBron and whatever you wait he go to the movies in public. Trust me. It's gonna be news. We don't care about we don't care about
He better be going to see the Little Mermaid. That's all I'ma say
But before we get into LeBron talk get almost start with you. What's your favorite Hove bar ever?
And I know I'm just throwing you on the spot. So I don't gotta be your favorite ever
But what comes to mind when you think of legendary Hov lyrics?
All these little haters got me back with the Nina.
Ooh, let me look mine up.
Showing up to work with my guns, Gilbert Arenas.
Of course.
Something like that, yeah. Not gonna lie, Hov said the name, bro.
That's hard. He said your name, bro. That's hard, he said your name?
Yeah!
That's hard, oh yeah, that's hard.
Got me bringing guns to work,
Gilboa the Ripper, he was the first one to say it.
What song was that?
Under Pressure with,
it was supposed to have been on Detox.
Yeah, with Dr. Dre.
But it never came, the CD never came out,
but that was the one that was leaked.
Wow, you feel yourself.
Oh, what, Hov?
Yeah, yeah, that's hard. You can't tell me shit. That's hard, that's hard. Damn, that was leaked. Wow. You feel yourself. No, what? Cove? Yeah, yeah, that's hard.
You can't tell me shit.
That's hard.
That's hard.
Damn, that is hard.
Brandon, what you got?
You looked it up to see if I was telling the truth.
I was trying to make sure the lyric was accurate and correct.
I got it from...
You got it spot on.
My one is from Jay-Z, So Ambition.
He said, I'm different.
I can't base what I'm going to be off what everybody isn't.
They don't listen
Just whispering behind my back. No vision whack of ambition. So whack
Like you just whack me
Mika how about your side? No, I'm fine. Mine is from say hello
Easy easy the third verse when he said we doing crime for the sake of doing crime
We're moving Dom's cuz we ain't doing fine one out of three of us is up doing time. You know what that type of shit can do to a nigga's mind. Like that whole bar, that whole 16 right there was just speaking about why our, like we get blamed for like the murder the most,
we kill the most, we do the most crime, all these things. People don't realize when you're in a
situation where you can't get out of what you will do to win what you will do to feed your family what you will do to survive
That's why I always when people like why are you always saying free your friends in jail?
Because there's all types of white-collar crimes and things if you don't go to jail for but we go to jail everything
We do is criminal if we're not billionaires if you're not up there. So yeah free all my niggas free tax on by the way
Was yours billionaires if you're not up there so yeah free all my niggas free tax on by the way was yours put me anywhere a guy green earth I'll trip on my work very simple straight to sink to the point I had a favorite Jay-z album is it is it Is it Blueprint 3?
Could be.
Is it Blueprint 3?
You tell us.
What's the songs on there?
We got a Blueprint 3.
You know, we're old.
Or Black Album.
Yeah, I'm about to say the Black Album or that one he did with his wife,
Everything is Love, him and Beyonce.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm not.
That was fire.
He said no. I don't need no singing.
Nah, if she not, she getting off.
She rapping. I don't want no singing.
She rapping too.
I want swag.
It's a lot of swag.
Yeah, I mean, I like when he just let us know
how much better he is than us.
That's the type of music I want.
Like the drugs, look, listen.
He give the- Doing drugs is cool.
He giving the glory to his wife now.
Yeah, I don't know. It's fire, it's fire. I don't need none of that. I don. He giving the glory to his wife now. It's fire.
It's fire.
I don't need none of that.
I want to give the glory to himself.
No, but that's why he's...
Why am I worried about you when I'm already me?
That's the shit I want to listen to.
When I listen to it, man, yeah, yeah.
Let's talk about LeBron a little bit.
LeBron dropping that bar.
Do you have a problem with LeBron saying he's the GOAT a lot of people are in their feelings
No saying he doesn't need to express that he need to keep it to himself
MJ didn't do this MJ didn't do that
So good
You have a problem with LeBron first of all MJ didn't need to because all the media gave it to him already
The fuck you need to say yeah, he every article go go. Why you think Kareem was mad why did Kareem hate basketball because he got
33,000 points and a man that has
17,000 was coined the best player to ever play this game, right?
So if I'm him I'll be Saudi issue too for the last 20 something years 30 some 40 years. Yeah. Yeah me
Personally, I can tell you one thing. One thing for sure.
One thing for sure.
If I was LeBron James Sr. and my resume is that,
first of all, it won't be no story.
It'll be every motherfucking post how great I am.
My cars, everything will be greatness.
Number one.
I personally still think I'm the GOAT for some reason in something.
I don't give a shit what it is.
G-O-A-T.
I'm Capcorn.
So would you call people broke though?
Like he basically like...
Yes, he would.
What?
I said you would call people broke.
Yes.
At the end of the day, y'all still got to go back to y'all lives.
Facts. Listen, that was a real nigga bar. Is it the media? No, he said it me. He said to the fans. He said it
Because they were all trashing him you can do yeah
It's corny, but it's the only
You got cool. I scored like this. That's cool. Brandi. Are you rocking with LeBron saying he's the go you think? No, no, that's why he could say that but I think the money part when you talk about we allback you got? Oh, I scored 30. Like, is this? That's cool. Brandy, are you rocking with LeBron saying he's the goalie?
No, no, that's fine.
He can say that.
But I think the money part, when you talk about, we all know you got money.
Yeah.
So, like, talking about money don't do nothing.
But see, when he said it.
Because whoever, just because you got money, that don't mean, like, a nigga can't hit your chick or nothing like that.
So it don't matter.
Like, none of that matters.
But you know, like, you already know.
When you have no comeback, that's it.
But it's such a guy thing, yeah.
But I'm just saying, when you don't have a comeback, that's what you use.
But I'm LeBron James.
That's all I have to say.
I wouldn't have said nothing about money, though.
I would have just said I'm LeBron James.
But what can you say to people that spend their life's earnings
skipping their child's tuition, college, all kind of things.
They will spend all their money to come watch you play a game
and then they're shitting on you pretty much,
disrespecting you and everything.
The only thing you really can't come back with
is thanks for the money.
That's really what he was saying.
Listen.
But ain't that what you signed up for?
Yeah, of course.
I'm changing my jersey to number one.
You get to talk shit, everything.
Changing your jersey to number one?
If I'm him next year, number one is my jersey. I'm number one. Nah, bro, I'm number one. everything changes number one if I'm him next number one is my Jersey
I'm number one not number one number one
Six is number one six or 23 man number one. I changed my last name to goat
Listen
Year if I know it's my last year
We're gonna go to your I'm gonna have I going to legally change my name for that year to goat
and I'm going to have number one.
You are forced to call me the goat.
You're forced.
The goat hit a three. Thank you.
I got that right. The goat
for the joke.
Errol Manigault.
Remember that movie Errol Manigault?
You know what?
It might have been a good thing that you didn't really
reach that potential.
I think the goat with 23 on the back is hard.
Listen, I'm trying to tell y'all.
Listen, Gerald Wallace did y'all a favor.
Because if I would have had an MVP speech, any of that shit, oh, man.
So I worked too hard to be humble.
That's fair. I'm sorry. I don't even want people to be like, yeah, you need to be humble. That's fair.
I'm sorry, I don't even want people to be like,
yeah, you need to be humble.
Fuck no.
I don't subscribe to the media.
I work eight hours in that gym,
and you think I'm gonna come out here,
yeah, you know, gotta thank God for everything.
You know, my mama, my daddy, hell no.
I'm better than you, and I know it.
You know it.
And good luck next year, because I'm about to go right to
the gym peace out
Yep, sorry motherfuckers
Something like that, but it was just been on some swag shit
Let everybody elevate and make motherfuckers go like alright. I see all that ain't on that shit today, huh?
Now everybody after that go straight to the gym. Yes, sir. So one NBA legend
who's rocking with LeBron
over MJ,
MJ's former teammate
Scottie Pippen,
who had this to say
last week on Stacey King's
Give Me the Hot Sauce podcast.
That's a great-ass podcast.
Give Me the Hot Sauce.
LeBron will be
the greatest statistical guy
to ever play the game
of basketball.
And there's no comparison
to him.
None.
So, does that make him the greatest player to ever play the game?
I'll leave that out for debating
because I don't believe that there's a great player
because our game is a team game.
And one player can't do it.
I've seen Michael Jordan play
before I came to play with the Bulls.
You guys seen him play.
He's a horrible player. He I came to play with the Bulls. You guys seen him play. He was a horrible player.
He was horrible to play with.
He was all one-on-one.
He's shooting bad shots.
And all of a sudden, we become a team and we start winning.
Everybody forgot who he was.
Two things. First, Scott, you gotta fix the camera.
Get that headroom right.
Get that ring light. Invest.
You gotta invest in yourself.
Yeah, man, your kids, let your kids do the videos for you.
Yeah, invest.
It's like $30 for a ring light.
You get them on Amazon.
But we talk about Scottie,
and you gotta really feel for this dude, man.
He was clowned in the last dance.
MJ's son snatches ex-boo.
And many people don't truly appreciate the contributions he had to those boos. You didn't have to use that one.
Where do you think all this anger is coming from?
Because he didn't lose his ex-boo to his son.
He didn't lose her.
It ain't like they was together.
She was for the streets. He just didn't they was together. She was for the streets.
He just didn't know it yet.
She was for the streets.
He was for the streets, too.
We're not here to talk.
I'm just saying.
He can be to the streets.
It's Scottie Pippen.
Okay, so let's not act like niggas ain't hoes, too.
Like that dick in here ran through.
They have kids, so I'm not going.
He's Scottie Pippen, though.
I mean, we could be ran through.
He's Scottie Pippen, though.
I'm just saying, that has to hurt, right?
You got a little kid in the locker room when you coming up,
and now you got to watch him with your ex-wife.
I'm just being real.
I mean, it's a child's fantasy.
I'm about to say, yeah, that's a child's fantasy.
Y'all see the video.
A lot of people had a lot of interesting things to say about Scottie,
what he said in that video.
But was Scottie spitting facts, or is he just salty?
Facts. Damn, Gil. Okayitting facts, or is he just salty? Facts.
Damn, Gil.
Okay.
Well, what did he say?
He said he's going to be the best statistical stats player ever.
Does that make him number one?
What he said is a fact.
He's going to be the statistic.
He already got the scoring title.
When you talk about rebound and assist, he's going to be there.
So he's technically going to have the best statistical stats so he said I'll let
y'all keep that a baby now the second part the second part is 100% true yeah
the reason I say that is it's what the fuck they do to everyone else since
Michael Jordan, right?
Whenever you're on a horrible team and you're just getting stats,
what do they do to that player?
Those stats are meaningless.
You have meaningless stats.
You're stat chasing, right?
All the triple doubles Westbrook did, meaningless.
Meaningless. Right?
So when Jordan was averaging 35 and winning all these scoring titles,
it should be meaningless.
Right, right.
Because if it wasn't meaningless, then why is it meaningless now?
Oh, it's meaningless now when people are trying to chase Jordan.
So you're erasing all his meaningless years to say, oh, he's this.
Well, that's unfair to everyone that's 20, 21, 19, 18.
Right?
So you're putting, hey, you got to win now.
Jordan got six rings.
Win now.
So now everything we do is all about winning when his career, his legacy,
the shit that no matter if someone gets six rings, you're going to say,
well, you don't have nine scoring titles
when you know damn well those scoring titles
went on years that didn't even fucking do anything with them.
So going by the logic of society,
then I'm gonna say, yeah, those six years
when he didn't have a ring,
they're fucking meaningless stats.
And they'll kill you for that.
Of course! But they killed every player for it.
Every player that was on the back, Kevin Love, when he was on a bad team, And they'll kill you for that. Of course, but they killed every player for it.
Every player that was on the back, Kevin Love, when he was on a bad team,
putting up numbers for no damn reason, just playing basketball, right?
You're drafted to these worst teams, and you're creating these numbers, and
then you're building the team.
Well, before they let anybody build the team,
they already done told their stats is meaningless, so.
You had 63 in the garden, but you lost.
I can only imagine if Jordan was playing.
Yeah, so what?
You took the L.
But everything he did from beyond that point,
the stuff that set up that tournament of player he is,
do you think a horrible teammate?
I mean, Scotty.
Personally, we can't say if we were or not.
We've seen the last dance, right?
But from there, it's everyone who played with him.
We can't.
The media can't say who is a horrible teammate and who's not.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because they said Jimmy Butler is a horrible teammate,
and look where he's at.
But I guess from the outside perspective, we hear terms like horrible think but that's part of life you can work with horrible people
okay okay horrible okay this is like a weird one because this world greatness is built off horrible mindsets.
Okay.
Right?
It's not people who think us.
It's people who think me.
You fucking fit in, right?
So when you look at all the top of everything,
it's a me first personality.
Mamba mentality, right, is not some fun shit.
Everybody, oh, yeah, we go out there. We have mama
mentality. No, you didn't like mama
mentality. It was selfish.
Get your fat ass in shape.
Why am I passing it to a dude who don't work out?
That's mama mentality. Why you
keep drawing plays for this? Hey, hey,
I ain't passing him the ball. I work seven hours
a day. He works one hour. Why am I passing him
the ball? The world did not
like the Mamba
mentality. So they changed
it to some weak-ass shit.
I seen a kid who
scored 81 and then stopped scoring.
That ain't Mamba mentality.
Kobe wants you to try
to score 100.
Mamba mentality is when his kids
the girls
team lost, right?
And they felt really bad.
And then they beat the team by like 80 to 100.
And all the parents was like, why are you running up the score?
He said, oh, don't tell my kids how to eat.
They've been savoring this goddamn meal.
They've been savoring this shit.
They've been waiting three months to get this team back.
No, they're going to eat.
That's horrible.
Yeah. I want to say something about the Scottie Pippen thing.
Of course, obviously the stats,
LeBron's going to be the greatest player ever,
but people are saying he's salty
saying this stuff about Jordan. I personally
feel like he's always wanted to say
how he felt about Jordan, but he
never did out of respect.
Do you know what I mean? There's sometimes
a respect thing where you're like, you know what, I'm not even going to air this. Who cares? It's not that big of a respect. Do you know what I mean? Like there's sometimes like a respect thing where you're like, you know what?
I'm not even going to air this.
Who cares?
Like it's not that big of a deal.
Then you see the last dance and you're like, oh, this nigga just disrespected me.
Like why the fuck do I care how he feels if I tell people my experience with him as a
teammate?
Like I have every right to say how I experienced someone.
Is that, you know, that's how salty.
Is that actually when he started talking?
Yes.
After that?
Yes.
That's when it got loud.
It's picked up, it's picked up.
I think he's salty.
I think he's just being brutally honest now.
I think he's salty.
Cause what took you so long?
Now because you saw.
Respect, respect.
Not respect.
Yeah.
It's because you saw my son with your wife.
So now.
No, it started way before that. No, no, no, wife. No, it started way before that.
It started way before that.
It started after the last dance.
Yes, it did.
Yeah, but that was the last straw, though, I feel.
No, no, he was going before the last dance.
But not like this, though.
Oh, no, that's because, no, no, no.
Not like this.
That's because, listen, listen.
Your son is banging my wife.
When you're talking ruthless,
ruthless, we're talking MJ now, right?
Yeah.
Cutthroat.
I'm pretty sure he was like, hey, young fella, go get that.
Of course.
Go get that.
He want to keep talking?
Go get that.
I mean, of course.
Get rid of helicopter treatment.
Of course.
I mean, who knows?
But that would be Jordan's mindset.
That's what I'm saying. That person in the workplace that you don't like,
that's the Jordan mentality.
Hey, hey, hey.
Best friends, hey, you're fired. Get on out of here.
You don't like that personality,
but that's the personality that runs you.
Scotty has a weak mentality, though.
You think he should have done all this?
Yeah.
You're the one who signed that bullshit contract.
You're the one who married that wife.
Like, you're the one who did what you did.
So don't be mad at me.
Why are you not taking a shot?
Because I'm the guy.
Like, I don't think this has to do with the wife.
I'm going to say, it has nothing to do with all that.
She don't deserve no gunshots today.
She didn't do anything wrong.
No, but as I said, I don't know if it has anything to do with just the wife itself.
This is probably just...
All that.
Like, you built a dynasty with a dude, and...
Oh, Scott, he's back.
Are you disrespecting him?
That seven-year, $19 million deal.
You disrespect him.
Without that deal, the Bulls are in a different position,
so you got to imagine...
No, they all...
Listen, they all was getting raped.
Yeah, I'm going to say, they all...
They all, money-wise.
Mike just started getting his money to what the last
Take advantage of it was all getting take advantage of it was all getting that that that curry, you know
cheap
Johnson original deal
30 million for 30 years that Yeah, for 30 years. That sounded crazy back then, though.
But, oh, shit!
After one year, it's like, oh, hold on.
Hold on, wait.
Chris Webber did that, too.
Chris Webber did a 10-year, $99 million deal,
and after the first year, I think he redid it.
So let's just talk about the future of the league.
Now, obviously, LeBron, he's mortal.
He's been talking retirement.
Uh-oh.
I think we got a special guest in the building pulling up.
No.
The number one Heat fan.
No he don't got all these heat shit on.
In Woodland Hills.
No he didn't.
This man, this is perfect, sit down.
The number one Heat fan.
Am I allowed?
You're allowed.
The number one Heat fan in Woodland one. With the coves on?
With the coves on?
What's up?
This man got on a uniform with Laker shoes.
You are not checking in.
Lakers.
Kobe.
What?
Laker shoes.
Kobe shoes.
Laker shoes.
Laker colors.
No, Laker.
I don't see you got no Jimmy Butler's on.
Laker colors.
Oh, you ain't got no shoes, right?
Hello, sir.
Rashawn McKiss in the building.
No mic, no. No crown. Thank God. I love to Hello, sir. Rashawn McKiss in the building. No mic, no nip.
No crown.
Thank God.
I love to walk in it.
I love to walk in it.
I got my confidence call.
I got my confidence call.
I see you.
I got my confidence call.
I see you.
Give me a mic.
I see you.
Give me a mic.
I don't know.
I'm mic.
He already got mic'd up.
I'm mic.
I do this.
I do this.
He came mic'd.
He brought his own mic.
What's wrong with them? What's wrong with them? Uh, Jemmy?
Oh my God.
Jemmy, what's wrong with them?
What's wrong with them?
I'm dead.
What's wrong with them?
I'm dead.
Y'all ain't get to hear the chat.
Y'all ain't get to see the chat.
Y'all ain't get to...
This is gonna be good.
But what's wrong with them?
The chat was buzzing off of them.
What's wrong with them?
What's wrong with them?
Jemmy!
The chat was messy.
We know what we doing out here.
We ain't even on that topic yet right now.
We gonna get there in a second.
All right, I'm just making sure. I got the heat color, though.
Yeah.
That's nice.
That's nice.
You want to switch now, huh, don't you?
Mm-mm.
Uh-huh, you want to take off them Lakers?
Mm-mm.
I mean, I just let you know y'all going to get swept.
I like an assortment of greatness.
So we're talking about the future of the league.
You got plenty of young talent in the league right now.
A lot of superstars, right?
But nobody's really ready to be that guy,
to be him, to fill that void that LeBron's going to leave when he retires.
So Gil, in your opinion, who will be the face of the league
when LeBron finally does retire?
The face of the league?
Or is it going to be a face-by-committee?
The only person who has the charisma,
the style, is the one that's
getting in trouble. It's John Morant.
He's the only
one who has the style of play
that would put people in the seats.
When you're talking about
the face of the league, you're talking about someone that's
airborne.
Dr. J, then you had Larry Bird and Magic, and then when Jordan came, Kobe, LeBron, Vince
Cart, like you.
You know what I mean?
So it has to be someone that can put the people in the seat.
So to be honest, it is John Morant.
He has the style.
He has the look.
It's just right now he doesn't understand who he is and what is asked for him.
He might not be mentally ready to take on that challenge.
Nobody's even asked him, do you want to be the face?
Like, you know, I mean, coming into the draft, you know, everyone was talking Zion and he
inherited this by just his style of play.
So the real question is asking him, do you, do you actually want to be the face of this,
this league?
You know, if the answer is yes, then you know, you're gonna have to have the,
I guess they call it a mommy makeover.
And then from there, you know?
Which is why, I mean, you know,
we saw photos from EYBL this weekend.
All the kids out there rocking the Ja ones.
Like, they don't give a fuck what's going on in the world.
Bryce was wearing them.
You know, several other kids out there.
So when you talk about Ja,
like, the kids ain't tripping on all this.
They are not tripping.
If anything, it might have boosted his shit.
Yeah.
Listen, you have us older generation
judging a younger generation
when from the ages of, what, 25 and under,
what he's doing is normal to them.
Yeah.
That's normal.
That's normal behavior for that group, right?
So to them, they're like, what the hell they do?
Yeah.
They ain't do shit.
That's what they do anyway.
They sitting there and they fucking, they doing the same thing?
They doing the same thing.
I'm about to say, they doing the same thing.
Doing the same thing.
They should not buying Jordans because he was caught smoking a joint or something like that.
It's like, it's not going to change anything.
Or getting cooked on the golf course.
I think more niggas would buy Jordan's.
Yeah.
If Mike got caught smoking, that shit would have sparked it up.
Mike was on IG with the hitter.
Everybody would be smoking.
Same thing with Ja.
You see what I mean?
Like, this guy sparked the youth.
It's just different.
Some people just got it.
Some people just didn't.
It's hard.
Some people are just different.
It's your aura, too.
Is there anybody you're looking at in the league now besides Ja Ja, who can be, it's just like, look,
you got Giannis, you got Embiid,
you got all these top guys, Tatum,
but none of them really feels like they have the charisma
or willing at this point to accept what comes with
all the good and the bad,
what comes with being the face of the league.
I mean, I think it would have to probably be a big man.
I just think that's what, I mean, it's so many of them.
It's like, it's so many of them.
You could put Jokic, you could put the new kid that's coming I mean. It's so many of them. It's like it's so many of you could put your kids you could put
The new kid that's coming in from Paris from Paris like I mean
I mean, I just feel like that's where it's gonna have to go because it's not there's nobody else who
Retiring for like four years at least is what I'm thinking
Even in the league yet
Mean it could be school. It can be listen to the Miller the the league is ran from guards
Is what guards it's ran disagree. Why are you so quiet? The NBA is ran through guards
Well, the reason the reason is I'm listening the same reason LeBron James is still 68
Kevin Durant is only 6'9", right?
Because kids, they've already did their numbers.
Kids do not buy shoes from players that are 6'10 and above.
Right?
So the max that a star can be is basically 6'9".
So you have Kevin Durant sitting at all of seven fucking foot
but he's 6'9".
LeBron James is 6'8", but he's all of 6'10 1⁄2", right?
So Nike understands that kids do not, they can't value big men.
I think Giannis is probably one of the only dudes who...
His shoes don't sell.
They can give him a shoe deal, his shoes don't sell.
Nice shoes.
I got a theory.
Trust me, I know the numbers.
I believe...
Am I right?
Yeah, I know the numbers.
I believe, like, after Mike know the number I believe like after Mike
There became faces of the league right which is multiple guys to carry the lead
Like with your error, it was multiple you guys with the Adidas you kg
Chauncey Timmy all your team act y'all was like the faces of the league. It was just Tracy though. You know what I'm saying?
But it was like a team.
It was a team of guys who were getting enough attention to carry the league,
to have enough fan base to be like, yo, I want to be like one of these five,
one of these six guys, right?
But then outside of that, you got a couple other guys on the Nike side, right?
And it's always been the same type of faces of the league.
Because that one guy has been LeBron.
We gave him that from
from the start we knew he was going to eventually take that torch kobe he ended up becoming a guy
we didn't ever give him that from the early start so he had to work for that so right now we just
got we got the lucas we got the jaws we got the yokages we got the yannis's you know the mbs it's
a lot of guys you can't forget.
Depending on their influence, it's like,
where do you put them?
See what I'm saying?
Based on that.
You said influence.
They ain't got influence though like Ja.
They all do.
They all got their own markets.
Not like Ja though.
Nobody's paying attention.
It's boring though, it's boring.
No one's paying attention.
It's just big though.
Luka and Jokic don't have the influence.
They got a whole country.
They got the players.
Yeah, but that's-
I'm sorry, but- We don't live in that country got a whole bunch of layers. Yeah, but that's okay, buddy
We'll live in that country exactly, but his influence over there is just as big as over anywhere else. Just like y'all just like
Jeremy what's Lucas a shoe deal?
For Jordan. Yeah, I don't know. It's a big Jordan. How many people share the same shoe?
Sure. Mm-hmm. Yes, like that team Jordan. It's a team Jordan here. Jason Tatum. Yeah Zion all share the same shoe? Share? What do you mean? Yes. Like that team Jordan that-
It's a team Jordan.
Him, Jason Tatum, Zion all wear the same fucking shoe.
You're not buying no Luka?
No, I think Jason Tatum got his own signature.
Listen, it's guard play.
You have to be in that guard because
the kids that are buying it, the kids that are wanting it,
they don't see themselves being six
foot. Right? So the highest
selling shoes right now will
be Kyrie's, Kobe's,
Jordan's,
LaMelo Ball,
Kyrie's, Kevin Durant,
and John Morant's. So it's going to be multiple
faces at the end of the day. No, I'm saying it's just all guards.
Yeah, but the one guy who's going to be
like, we know it's been LeBron's league,
you could say Steph as well,
but that's been pretty clear cut.
I mean we could put Steph in there when LeBron retire.
But Steph,
If he's still playing.
Steph's gonna be 35.
First of all,
It's too late.
They're gonna be retiring by the same time.
Yeah, it's too late.
And do we think we'll see a situation
that we have with like Tom Brady and MJ
where LeBron claims he's retiring,
has to come back mid-season
cause he can't get away from it? Nah. Nah. I think once LeBron claims he's retiring, has to come back mid-season because he can't get away from it?
No.
No.
I think once LeBron gone, he gone.
Especially with his son coming in,
I feel like that's gonna be a big emphasis
on how long he stays and how that draft takes place.
I think this one.
He gonna make sure.
He retire and then he come back to play with us.
He retire and then he come back.
There's no point because his son can come to the league next year. Yeah, and then he's gonna lose money too, a lot of, then he come back. There's no point because the Sun can come
to the league next year.
And then he's gonna lose money too, a lot of money.
The Sun can come to NBA next year.
So, I mean, he don't.
Let's say Bronny comes in and him or Bronner
are on different teams and Bronny ducks on Bron.
He gotta just shoot.
No way.
He gotta shut it down forever.
He do that, he's goaded.
No way.
He's goaded.
I don't know about that. He ain't shit you can tell me. Bron can put you on his back. He do that he's go to
Body's the funniest one. He's the type that make it to the league still live with his dad. She's free right here
This is free rent.
That ain't going nowhere.
I like Bryce, too. Bryce looking good, too.
Hey, man, listen.
Bryce is going to be a junior next year.
We all talking about Bronny
and Bryce, I want
to play with both my sons.
That's my point, though. If he can take a year off, take that little gap year,
take a little redshirt year, and have the opportunity to play with both of them if that's my point though. If he take a year off, take that little gap year, take a little red shirt year,
and have the opportunity to play with both of them
if that becomes feasible.
Nobody's ever really talked about the Bryce component
just because it feels like it's too far ahead in the future.
But...
38 to nine, 40 for the one.
How old is your other son?
He be right there.
Huh?
How old is your other son?
My youngest one?
Yeah.
11.
Oh, 12 tomorrow.
12.
And then Elijah is what? 16.
16.
That's wild.
He the 12-year-old.
He cold.
He cold.
He cold.
All four of them are fucking cold.
All four.
You got a family of hoopers, Gil.
You done well.
And one cheerleader.
Don't do that.
But she killing on the cheerleaders.
Don't do that.
But she killing on the cheerleader circuit.
Don't do that.
Huh? She killing on the cheerleader circuit.
Yeah.
Let her live.
Let her live.
It's cool.
All I just see is the future of, hey,
what's Shorty name right there?
Go.
You know exactly what it is.
Shorty name right there, like, aw.
You know exactly where it's going.
Aw.
Cheerleader.
Oh my god.
Yo, he's going to watch this.
Every week, we try to do something to get canceled.
We have started early. Don't say that. He's going to watch this. We appreciate you to all 7,400 y'all there in the boys. We're the boys. Don't say that. Every week we try to do something to get canceled. Don't say that.
We have started early.
She's going to watch this.
We appreciate you to all 7400 y'all there in the chat.
Wait, where's the one comment?
Hold on, let me find it.
Somebody said you pulled up like the cool uncle at the cookout.
Hey man, listen, where the chicken at?
Where the chicken at?
Pulled up this weekend, where the chicken at?
Where the chicken at?
You know what I'm saying?
Let's keep this thing in the west.
Let's talk about this Bob Myers situation with the Warriors.
The writing was on the wall, but now it's official.
Bob Myers is stepping down as the Warriors president and general manager.
I think we got the Woj tweet from earlier today.
It's coming.
I always feel like it's weird when it says breaking news from Adrian Wojnarowski or whatever
how you say his shit with his hand on it on his tweet.
It's like, dog, we get it.
Right.
Yeah.
That's like, chill out, my boy.
Praise.
With the huge font.
Like, we get it's coming from you.
Like, we don't give a fuck.
I guess when people steal it, you know, it still shows who it's coming from.
Well, it's the internet.
Just like they do to my shit.
I'm just gonna cut his shit out.
And pull his shit right out. Cut his shit's the internet, just like they do to my shit. I'm just going to cut his shit out.
Get Eddie Boy's shit right out.
Cut his shit right out, like y'all be doing to me.
So Myers is the architect of the Warriors dynasty.
He won four chips in the last nine seasons in his role.
The franchise currently the highest value team in the league.
Warriors did their best to try and throw a bag at Bob to get him to skate,
but he said his decision to dip was based on several factors. Money wasn't necessarily the
issue. So looking at this Warriors
franchise, obviously the defending
champs got dethroned by LeBron
James, 38-year-old, Janky Foot
in that Lakers squad in six games. Probably should've
went five, but that's neither here nor there.
Is Myers getting out at the right
time?
I mean, obviously
money is a factor.
I don't know what the fuck he's talking about.
All right.
But they tried to throw the bag at him.
I know.
So that means someone else threw a bigger bag
and something that they can't compete with.
So wherever he does go,
it's going to have something to do with probably some stake inside,
ownership. I mean, who knows?
It just depends on what-
It's not like he's just going home. Oh yeah, you know, you offer me $200 million,
I'm just going to go ahead and just sit on the couch. No, no, no. So he's going somewhere
that offered him something that Clippers-
That comes to mind too, isn't it?
That look like, it looks like a Clipper move to me.
Clippers got left to go to the Wizards.
Huh?
So there's a vacancy there.
It looks like a Clipper,
I mean, it looks like a Clipper move.
The only person, who's the richest owner here?
Steve Ballmer.
Looks like a Clipper move.
Try to buy whatever you can.
And it could also be like something like,
like maybe sometimes in the front office,
these positions, like you don't like a movement
that's happening with a player
or maybe you had an idea of getting someone or moving someone
and ownership doesn't agree, coaches don't agree,
so you're like stuck in the middle.
You know what, I want to go somewhere where I can have full control again,
where I can start over and do everything I want to do
as opposed to having somebody else's opinion on it.
That's what came to my mind when I heard they offered him a bag, he turned it down.
There's something else internally that he's not getting.
So he used that bag to get the bigger bag from Ballmer.
Hypothetically, it's all legend at this point.
But do you think, I mean, just this past season, the Draymond-Jordan-Poole stuff,
also the situation with Draymond being able to opt out,
Klay obviously looking for an extension.
It just seemed like there was a lot of shit going on with that team.
And if they didn't go back to the championship this year,
getting knocked out by the Lakers in the second round,
it's kind of like, all right, this is perfect time to dip.
I don't got to deal with any more of this shit.
That's what I think too.
That's what I think too.
I'm just like, hey.
That's what I think too. He don't want the smoke.
Like, it's just like, yo, fuck it.
Like y'all figure it out.
Y'all figure it out now.
I do what I need to do.
Who the fuck knew who he was?
What you mean?
Bob Myers.
He's a basketball legend.
B-O-B-M-I-R-E.
What you mean?
Cool.
All right, there's 30 teams.
How many of the executives do we actually know?
We don't know them some bitches for real.
He was one of the more visible.
Okay, but we don't know.
We don't care.
Come on, Gil.
We don't care.
If that team broke up, nobody was looking at him.
Come on, Gil.
Right, they go 0 and 30. Nobody's looking at him. Come on, Gil. Right, they go 0-30.
Nobody's looking at him.
This is Steve Kerr.
Get your ass on out of here.
The general manager, get your ass out of here.
He's bulletproof up there.
So if the deal he wanted was really there, I don't give a fuck.
Y'all can fight all goddamn day.
That ain't got nothing to do with me because I can get rid of all y'all.
So let's not pretend like,
oh, they're going to break up.
Draymond will what?
Tell Draymond to fuck off.
I mean, come on. He's at a position where no one knows who he
is. They do now.
If you didn't, you do now.
So now I feel like the pressure's on
him even more now.
Because now he has to go somewhere,
and they're going to be expecting these type of results.
Not the Clippers.
That's the thing.
So why would you hire him, man?
If you don't expect him to turn your franchise around,
you expect it, but he could just finesse that bag,
and it's like, look, y'all the Clippers,
the curse is going to be on forever.
Bob Myers is like Phil Jackson right now.
He is like Phil Jackson.
That's not what they're expecting yet.
But for that level, he's like Phil Jackson right now, Bob Myers.
Imagine him getting somebody like Klay Thompson to come down to the Clippers.
No.
No, I don't want to see that.
They can keep their 106 toilets.
For Kawhi.
You said they can keep their what?
Their 106 toilets.
That's all they can keep.
They got a toilet for every fan.
Kawhi for Klay and Draymond.
I'm just saying that.
You see?
Who?
Kawhi for Klay and Draymond.
Kawhi for Klay and Draymond. I'm just saying that. You see? Who? Kawhi for Klay and Draymond.
Kawhi for Klay and Draymond?
No way.
No way.
What you mean?
What would the Warriors get out of that?
Kawhi Leonard.
A hurt Kawhi Leonard.
No.
He's been playing like he's been lunching ever since he won the championship with Toronto.
Top 75.
Top 75.
You getting top 75?
I put my finger on it with Kawhi Leonard.
What?
I'm gonna do that.
Kawhi Leonard.
Kawhi Leonard.
Kawhi Leonard.
Kawhi Leonard. Kawhi Leonard. listen. Top 75. You getting top 75.
I put my finger on it.
With Kawhi Leonard.
What?
He had my problem.
What?
He can't sit his ass down.
He can't sit down?
He can't sit down.
I...
When you watch his jumper,
that shit is so pure.
Yeah.
That means he sits hours on hours shooting,
which means his body's not really resting.
So he's not recovering.
I think he overuses his body and is not actually healing.
Well, I wouldn't know.
Like, when you look at it like every time he comes back
his shot is flawless we don't never see like breaks yeah like we don't so it looks like he
had the same problem that i had that i don't know what rest is and i just keep just i want to train
and like i've heard that he'll sit in the gym six, seven hours,
just one spot, just shooting 500 makes to 2,000 makes.
And I'm like, for someone who has leg problems, just jumping up and down,
yeah, you're not going to recover.
So you got constant grind disease.
Huh?
Constant grind disease.
But we talk about this a lot.
I mean, you talk about Kobe.
I remember hearing the story of Kobe training during the USA camp, but it was like, guy
was up at four and he said, but, and all I'm thinking in my head is like, damn, he just
went 11 hours today working out.
At some point, your body is not going to be able to sustain.
But it's fucked up in Kawhi's case because the narrative is always that Kawhi don't want
to play.
He's ducking smoke.
He's late. And I feel a lot to play, he's ducking smoke,
he's late.
I feel a lot of times that's the Clippers trying to protect their investment.
You know, a lot of stuff goes on behind the scenes where players get the blame, they're
not always responsible for it.
But when you talk about that, it's not a guy who we know, he puts that work in.
I mean, you can just tell.
We know who lazy motherfuckers are.
You can see it in their game you tell you we know who lazy motherfuckers are yeah you can see it you can see it in a game and and
Lazy does not fit. It just seemed like he probably just does too much and he's just can't recover
But who who wants to sign that thing?
Who wants to play with that like if you if you said why would the Warriors want?
I don't know why the Warriors want him. Just need him for them two games.
Need him for them two games.
The playoff games this year when he played.
And he was hurt.
Yeah.
He was cooking.
Yeah.
Which is, again, he gets a lot of blame.
That looks different with Steph.
Because they said he tweaked his knee.
I think he tweaked his knee in the first game.
And he didn't play.
And then they told him, they said,
we're going to sit you out. He's like, no, I can play. And then they told him, they said, we're going to sit you out.
He was like, no, I can play.
And then he was done with that.
Heard it more.
So Kawhi Leonard for Klay and Dre.
Kawhi and Terrence Mann for Klay and J Ma.
No.
Terrence Mann.
Throwing Bones Highland.
I don't think it's a win for the Warriors.
First round pick.
Throwing Bones is the first round.
I don't think it's a win.
I don't want Bones and Poole.
No, Poole.
You're going to do something. That's another book. So you're going to do something with Poole too. We're going to figure out who he is. Throwing bones is the first round. I don't want bones and pool. No, pool.
You're going to do something with pool too.
That's another move.
We're going to figure something out.
Yeah, pool can go.
That's another move we're going to make.
We talk a lot about this potentially being the end of the Warriors dynasty, but let's
go on the flip side of that.
How did the Warriors stop the dynasty from dying nasty?
Well, we heard his trade.
That was nasty. That shit dying nasty. Well, we heard his trade.
That was nasty.
That shit was nasty.
Sign and trade Jalen Green.
Give them pool and clay.
Wait, Jalen Green from Houston?
No, no, I'm sorry.
Jalen Brown.
Jalen Brown.
Why do I keep saying Jalen Brown? I'm about to say, yo.
I did that shit today.
I was doing my little backup, and I'm stuck on Jalen Green because he's the Adidas guy.
You know what I mean?
Hope he got the new ones.
Oh, God.
Hope he got the new ones.
You know, Jalen Brown, I mean, I give them Wiggins and Poole for Jalen Brown.
You getting rid of Andrew Wiggins?
Maple Jordan?
I got the same. I got Brown. You're getting rid of Andrew Wiggins, Maple Jordan? I got the same.
I got Brown.
Same player.
I mean, I mean.
Don't really want to demand the ball.
I mean.
Right?
It's the same.
I mean, it's the same player.
You are getting the same.
If I can slip him one for one, I would, but I got to throw in, I throw in Jordan Poole
too.
I don't know.
What's the difference?
We've seen Andrew Wiggins win his crunch time.
I've seen Andrew Wiggins almost play at the Finals MVP level.
I mean, I'm just saying.
I'm just saying.
And I've seen Jalen Brown have the opportunity against the eight-seeded Heat.
Cap.
Hmm.
Cap.
We'll get to it.
We're going to talk about it again. I did my trade. All right, for sure.
I think they got to go young.
They got to get some young pieces and they got to, yeah, they got to-
So you like that trade?
Yeah, I don't mind that trade.
I don't mind that trade or I mean something else too, but just something young though.
We need something young and athletic, something young and athletic and somebody that can be
there.
We need guys that can show up, man.
Yeah.
Like-
Oh, well that's-
I mean, I think that's what I'm saying.
I think that's what I'm saying.
I think that's what I'm saying.
I think that's what I'm saying.
I think that's what I'm saying.
I think that's what I'm saying.
I think that's what I'm saying.
I think that's what I'm saying.
I think that's what I'm saying. I think that's what I'm saying. I think that's what I'm saying. I think that young and athletic something young athletic and somebody that can be there
Any guys that can show up man? Yeah, like well, let's
Let's keep this thing moving say we could talk words, but we got to talk about
The most important moment from Memorial Day weekend heat Celtics game seven
Miami Heat almost tricked off a 3-0 lead Eastern Conference finals. We've seen it happening
Game six it was looking a little shaky
after that Derek White tip in.
Give him the smoke.
But we gotta look at game seven first.
I think Celtics first possession Tatum with the janky
ankle injury.
Man, that's-
He played the rest of the game, but he wasn't himself.
He was though.
Caleb Martin. He about to get paid, huh? wasn't himself. He was, though. Caleb Martin.
He about to get paid, huh?
Caleb?
Yeah.
He signed that three for 20.
They got to give him an extension.
He going to see Austin Reeves bread and be in his feelings a little bit.
We need at least 60 for three.
Might as well throw my picks up there, too.
But, you know, the Heat, honestly, big second quarter.
That was a tough game.
Big third quarter.
Playoff, Jimmy returned.
He was looking a little stagnant the past few games.
Had a nice game six, but... Money.
Money. Killer mode.
Hey. And the thing too we gotta talk about with this squad.
That was a big one.
Ooh. Nice game. Hold on.
Ah!
Lot of bucket. It's the thing we to talk about with this squad, right?
After the Game 6 loss, Sposha said they were going to figure it out.
Heat already had their flights booked to Denver before Game 7.
And they walked in like they talked.
They rolled into the garden, humbled the Celtics.
Now it's their second finals the past four seasons.
Like we said earlier in the show, second eight seed to reach the finals,
first in a non-lockout year.
And they got revenge for the game seven loss last year,
one year to the day.
So Gil, I'll start with you.
What impresses you the most about this Heat team?
Or are you still think they're a hot boo-boo?
No, no, they're a hot boo-boo.
Like that's the trash.
But the mental warfare that they put on Denver Nuggets was...
The Celtics.
I mean, I'm sorry.
Yeah, we're almost at 10K, so you're going to have to hit the blunt,
but it looked like you already...
We're almost there.
I'm sorry, you're right.
We're almost there.
On Celtics, right?
By saying they're going to go to Denver.
Yeah.
Right? We're almost there on Celtics right by saying they're gonna go to Denver. Yeah, right if you're Boston Celtics
And you read that
That fucks with you
That is like that is like a whole little different stab
Even if they fucking ticket wasn't the fact that you said like they're coming here guaranteeing that they about the whoop our ass
They they're not even going to Miami. They're going straight there.
Pissed out before Denver.
When that hit the press, I was like, oh.
What'd you call that?
Confidence.
Gilbert, what'd you call it?
I call it confidence.
What'd you call it, confidence?
Yeah, from the team.
Okay.
From the team, yes.
Like this.
Brought to you by.
The same confidence we were talking about.
Confidence coffee.
From the team, yeah.
Big phase.
From the team.
Big phase. That was no player who said that. That's the team who said that. Hey, hey, coffee. From the team. Big phase. From the team. Big phase.
That was no player who said that.
That's the team who said that.
Hey, hey, hey.
That was amazing.
That was amazing war tactic right there.
And see, I see that differently.
I feel like for me, if I was a Celtic and I saw that,
it would actually make me play even harder, even better,
like just to laugh at them afterwards.
Like I feel like it wouldn't scare me or intimidate me.
It would actually make me like,
I'm about to beat their fucking ass.
Like just for even thinking
that they're not gonna lose today.
Well, unfortunately dear.
Unfortunately.
Don't dear me mom, like hold on.
I'm just sorry, but you gotta have the talent
to actually do that.
True.
All right, you had two teams,
that's just fucking hot garbage, right? So it is, no matter what they said, no matter what True. All right? You had two teams, that's just fucking hot garbage.
Right?
So it is.
No matter what they said, no matter what they said, right?
I got to have the talent to just do it.
Yeah.
Yeah, you're right.
Oh, gaslighting.
I mean, you know, you can try that shit with Denver.
Say, yeah, we don't plan to go in and they're
able to smack the fuck out.
It's Boston.
But you're telling me the Celtics don't have the talent to be the eight-seeded heat squad?
It's called gaslighting.
I'm just, I'm asking you, Guz.
I don't think they have the coach.
I don't think they have the coach.
They got rid of their coach.
Two all-defensive players.
All right.
Gaslighting.
I'm just telling you.
He's gaslighting and he knows it.
I'm gaslighting.
He don't want to give Jimmy credit.
Jimmy in the Miami Heat.
All right.
So, you know, you don't want to give Jimmy So, you know what great for all you for all the fans out there this is how horrible
Your team really is
You take your two stars you put them aside because they're stars right the other three starters
Marcus smart as a starting point guard. He ranks
27 out of 30.
White as a point guard, as a starter, 29-30.
Now, if you add in all the six-man guards, like the Jordan Pools and the Bones,
them two motherfuckers is in the 30s for guards.
That is the two guards that you are starting with.
Now, let's add Horford as a starting power forward.
The only nigga he's better than is Kevin Love as a starter.
Kevin Love got to do it too.
What I'm saying is, Kevin Love plays five to seven minutes. So, obviously, he's going to do it. What I'm saying is as they start Kevin Love plays five to seven minutes, right? So
obviously he's going to rank
last. Horford
is right in front of him. So three
players on your team is in the back
of starters. Who the fuck
are they going to be?
Statistically,
if you took
them, those three,
and put them on the bench,
them three are still not better than Heath's bench.
That's how horrible that starting five is.
So if they're starting, what the fuck does the bench look like?
What does the bench look like?
You're not rolling with Brogdon?
Think about what I'm saying.
Two Cs.
Brogdon is ranked higher than the starting guard.
That's the same starting lineup you have was a two seed.
That sounds great.
I'm just telling you that they've won with that lineup,
regardless of where they're ranked.
But let's talk about what they're doing with those two stars, though.
They won.
All right.
All right.
Cool.
Tatum, first team, all NBA.
You got two all NBA players.
I'm not talking about Tatum and Brown.
They are legit players, right?
In their position.
You have to calculate the rest of the team.
Because if those three that are ranked 27, 30, 31, whatever, what does the bench actually
look like in reality?
So what about the heat?
So that means your bench is sitting at what?
50, 60, 200?
What's the argument though?
Yeah.
They're garbage.
What about the garbage?
What about the heat?
The heat is worse.
But the best thing about the heat is their bench
is better than their starters.
Okay. So are we mad that Jimmy made it all the way because everybody's trying to?
No one's mad at Jimmy.
What?
What are we mad at?
No one's mad at nothing.
So why is everybody trying?
We got to point out that the Heat have beaten three members of the All-NBA first team.
Granted it was a hobble Giannis.
Who?
Embiid.
Yes.
Tatum.
They've been rolling through.
No one's saying nothing about the Heat.
We're talking about the Heat right now. We're talking'm just talking about we're talking about the hero never talk about.
I'm not we're talking about the Boston is all about the first is all about the
champs. The Easter all of the East. That would have to be your any teams on the
East. Good. Any team on the East. Talent. Talent team wise not talent. Okay.
Statistically, why statistically? Okay, when we say as a team, Miami is a great team.
Why aren't they,
why isn't Boston
a great team
when they have
probably better players
considering they were
two seed?
They have better players.
Yeah.
Two better players.
Okay.
The rest of the lineup,
he is going to
outmatch them.
But they don't.
Yeah, they do.
They equal out. They balance out. No, they donmatch them. But they don't. Yeah, they do. They equal out.
They balance out.
No, they don't balance out.
If they YMCA team, they definitely balance out.
How is their bench?
Like, I'm going for the Heat.
Like, you're trying to argue against me when I'm doing the same thing.
I'm on your side.
I'm just saying when you take out.
You're trying to argue with me because you think I'm on Boston's side.
No.
I'm just saying how horrible Boston is.
Two seed is so trash.
How is the 18
not worse than that? Miami was the number one seed
last year. This year, though. We're talking about this year.
Yeah, man. That's what I'm saying.
Teams change. It doesn't matter.
This year, they did not play well
at all. They were worse. They were the seven.
They have to statistically be worse.
They're starters as well. They have to be.
Okay, what I'm saying is, remember who Miami starters are.
There's a hero.
There's actual starters.
There's only one missing, though.
No, Victor?
Victor was a starter.
No, but when you take that bench, right, and you look at Boston's bench,
who has the better bench?
Probably Miami.
Miami. But I'm talking about, they still wore
an 18. Now, who has a better bench
if you took
white and
smart and put them on a bench?
Miami still. Statistically,
Boston did have a better bench
because they produced more than
the Miami bench. 12 points?
Whatever the points is, they produced more.
So that's what made them a better bench.
No, they did not.
What do you mean?
They couldn't get no points from the bench.
What are you talking about?
Boston is a better team this entire season,
head and shoulders above them.
Boston.
They play better basketball, even though there was their style of basketball.
Listen, regular season is cute because nobody scouts you.
I play Monday, Tuesday, off Wednesday, Thursday, Friday.
I don't know you guys.
We're just coming in there playing concepts.
So what ends up happening is when the playoffs come,
your talent has to be able to play.
Right.
So if you took smart, and you took White, and you put
them on a bench, and then you took Miami's bench, had their full
rosters, and you say, who bench is better? Miami's bench is better than Boston
Steel. Now two of those players are actually starters. That lets you know how bad the team
really is. But Boston also beat the 76ers.
Yes, a
very talented group.
We all know that. Very talented,
lazy. Very
talented, lazy group.
You can't put stats as the
only reason why somebody...
No, I'm saying, listen.
You're moving it every time you hit them.
You don't even know.
Listen, you came here to argue for Miami when I'm arguing with Miami.
You don't know what to argue right now.
I'm talking about the talent.
We're talking about the talent.
You're talking about the statistics.
I'm saying talent.
Talent-wise, the most talented team on paper is probably Philly,
which is also the most laziest team in the Eastern Conference.
I would agree with that.
Right?
Then you have Bucs, right?
Once those teams was out, then it becomes who plays the hardest,
which is Miami.
But there was talent on the East enough for Miami to work through.
They're the hardest working team, but they work through them.
The Bucs and the Sixers are the best teams on the East,
and they whop through their ass.
One is hurt.
The other one is lazy. They have two ass. One is hurt. The other one is lazy.
Damn, there were two excuses.
One is hurt.
One is lazy.
It don't matter for us.
We don't care.
It don't matter to us.
We don't care.
You just got here seven days ago.
Listen.
I'm not arguing with you.
We don't care about who's lazy.
Dude, dude, dude.
I'm not arguing with you.
We don't care about who don't want it.
I'm not arguing.
I'm on the same side as you.
I'm just saying.
I'm on the same side as you.
I'm on the same side
Now you on our side. I'm saying they're the hardest working team. Ain't no switching up. No, they're the hardest working team
You so they're out
You switched up you had Boston. No, picked the pick. I Want to win that I have in the series thought was gonna win and then you switched
I know that I never picked Boston for the switch up
Yeah, I got it. She was Boston. All right. So is this the biggest of that in Eastern Conference history? No, no
No
Bro, they trash man. Oh
Man, no, I don't give! Oh, man. No credit.
I don't give a fuck about what your season... That shit is cool, regular season.
Like I'm sorry.
That shit is cool, regular season.
I don't see a reason.
For me, the reason it wasn't...
Miami Heat needs... Miami Heat needs to be credited for what they have done.
Yeah.
Period.
Fuck the eight seed. Fuck all of that.
What they have shown the NBA
and all the owners out there
is you have to have
an in-season program
to develop your own God.
Right?
Nobody even knows this.
They're ranked 13th in salary cap.
Right?
13th in salary cap.
Out of 30, right?
Out of 30.
Their last, they have the cheapest bench in the NBA.
They have the cheapest bench in the NBA.
So the guys that we're seeing performing,
Marcus Marks makes more than the whole Heat bench.
Yeah.
So that means they are taking their time
and they're developing.
They're not letting these players do their own thing.
So we have to credit the Heat for how they have developed.
So they took the money out of the players, put it in the coaching staff.
So they're bringing in people who are willing to say, no, we're going to sit here, we're
going to work on your flaws, we're going to do this.
So now you have a group that are damn near G leaguers, that are performing at a high
level because they're putting the money and the time.
And that is the storyline.
Fuck the AC.
You're talking about a group that when you look, you're talking about 1.8 million, 1.8
million, 900,000, 400,000, 300,000.
And these guys are performing at a very high level, which is unheard of.
Statistically, on paper, people are going to hate this,
but this is probably the worst team on paper the NBA has ever seen
since at least the 80s.
To reach the finals, you're saying?
Period.
Just, damn.
No NBA team has had seven undrafted players on the same team.
And that makes them statistically bad because they have undrafted players.
When you say drafted versus undrafted, seven undrafted players.
I'm just talking about on paper.
Just on paper.
We don't do no stats or nothing.
Just on paper, seven undrafted players on the same team out of 15
will be considered the worst basketball team.
And they're not paying either? And they're not paying.
That's what I'm saying. But what's the metric?
What kind of stat metric is that? Is that points?
Is that what they're averaging? Is that what they're shooting?
What makes that the worst?
Undrafted.
Just based on draft status.
So it's a lot of two-way players.
Two-way players. D-league, they're just going up and down.
That means that they're probably the new Spurs
So the question one or more franchises
Try and follow that leader follow my I mean they have the capability to do it
You sure they gonna start looking at it now because it saves them money
It saves you money and those guys want to play those guys actually want to hungry like those guys are hungry
I'm able to get a coach that can get everybody on board,
playing in units.
That's a gamble all in itself.
So I think league, the owners of the teams are more likely to hire stars,
even if they're going to lose, to put asses in the seats
as opposed to building this great franchise.
It just doesn't sound like a billionaire mentality.
You know what I'm saying?
No.
What they're doing in Miami is a billionaire mentality.
No.
I don't have to pay nobody.
And we're in the playoffs.
We're in the finals.
And we had these guys for like five years.
But that's a gamble.
Like, that's not common is what I'm saying.
He's proven it.
He can do that.
That's not proof.
That's something they have a spolster there.
We can't discredit the fact that he's a big part of why everybody's on board.
You know what I mean?
So you don't have every coach in the league that can do that.
There's, you know, there's superstars you have to maintain.
It's the coach.
Listen, we came into the league, right?
Mm-hmm.
Did you have a shooting coach?
Yes.
Who was he?
I don't remember.
Okay.
Who?
Anthony Goldwire.
Was he like a Phil Hanley?
Or was he just somebody who just rebounded?
No, he was like a Phil.
No, he played, too.
Okay.
Ex-player.
So you had one.
Did you have one?
No, not one that I remember.
We had player development coach who didn't player development.
Right?
So I had to just sit on the gun all day.
So what ends up happening now is if you have a coaching staff full of people
who are training, who know what they're doing, and they're taking
players and you like, yeah this is your player, you work with him only. Now my job
is dependent on how great I can get this kid. So there's no fucking around.
Like nah nah, you're not gonna get me fired homeboy. Come on in the gym.
Come on to the gym. Right? So now I'm personally responsible. So that's what the NBA is now.
Everyone's personally responsible.
So when you look at Heat's –
Karan has them.
Are all the teams doing that?
Is everyone doing that?
They're bringing back players, but are those players dedicated to it?
See, Miami Heat is bringing back Miami Heat.
But that's why I'm saying every organization doesn't have that.
That's where they're going to look at it now.
You're bringing back.
Heat has a formula of success, right?
They have what they consider the gold standard.
The blueprint.
So now they're bringing in the gold standard players back.
They're not hiring players like me.
I don't know the standard.
I don't know what they expect.
Haran does.
You know, those guys do.
So they're bringing them back, and they're teaching the youth, right?
Yeah.
Which is the example that every goddamn organization needs to start thinking about.
The money is...
But that's why I say it's not a billionaire's mentality.
Culture, though, I guess, is the question. Culture has to be created from your past. We talked to Dar thinking about. The money is... But that's why I say it's not a billionaire's mentality. But how do they create that culture, though,
I guess is the question.
Culture has to be created
from your past.
We talked to Darrell Wright
last week about everything
he had to go through
from his rookie year on
playing in Miami.
It seems like that blueprint,
you talked about the Spurs as well,
is known,
and you could try
and grab some of those guys
to help create that culture
in your own franchise,
but teams aren't really doing it.
I mean, you've got to start somewhere. It's not a billionaire's mentality. I mean, it will happen't really doing it. I mean, you gotta start somewhere.
Not a billionaire's mentality.
I mean, it will happen.
It will happen.
I mean, not every team, but say you get three or four teams to do it, yeah.
Especially with this new CBA, it feels like you're gonna need to follow a model similar
to Heat and have guys-
At some point, yeah.
I'm gonna say, yeah, I would do that to save money.
To become successful.
I don't think success is every billionaire's goal in that way.
It's money.
Yes, it's money.
But money is this.
If I have the cheapest bench and this bench is producing at its very high level,
that's money in my pocket because they're selling out the seats
and I don't have to pay for it versus somebody like the Clippers.
But they're just as competitive as us.
If there's the most money that you could win,
they want the most money, which is the championship,
the success at the end.
They're all going for the jackpot.
So they're just as competitive to get to the jackpot.
It ain't enough to just get some leftovers to be like,
yeah, we got some money.
Here's the question we talked about with Jason the Jeweler
last week, is the jackpot, it's almost better just to go
through the finals and get smacked.
Okay, so like this.
Let's say Clippers, right? So Clippers
has the highest payroll.
Right? Them getting to
the finals, right?
In Miami, he has
13th best and they get to the
finals. This owner
is making more money.
His profit is bigger.
What I'm saying is if I can pay less and still get the production high
That's what he's created and that's what San Antonio created back then
Right Tony Parker was underpaid Ginobili was underpaid Timmy was kind of underpaid two teams though out of 30
That's why I'm saying it's not it's not common. It's not something that billionaires are doing.
They really want to get it.
Utah almost had that way, too.
Yeah.
Utah for a minute.
But that's what made the dynasty with the Bulls.
That's what made the Bulls dynasty.
And that's what made Golden State dynasty.
You look at the Warriors.
I think they're comparable in terms of.
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We talked about the heat bench.
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We talked about the Heat bench, let's talk a little bit about playoff Jimmy.
He won the Larry Bird Eastern Conference Finals MVP in the Garden.
Black Lives Matter. Can he get some smoke?
Can we get some smoke for Jimmy, please?
White Bostonians in their feelings.
Sorry, Jimmy, they turned it off.
That's what's up, Jimmy.
You know, Boston, heart of Caucasian, white Bostonians in their feelings.
Haven't seen a black man hoist that trophy.
Should be named for LeBron.
That's another conversation.
But let's just take a look at the Eastern Conference Finals MVP voting.
Or let's, yeah, Jimmy Butler edged out Caleb Martin by one vote.
And playoff Jimmy's playoff.
Who the fuck?
Come on.
See, that's that. Who the fuck? Come on.
See, that's that.
What he's named.
Okay, all right.
Whoever voted Caleb, just take their credentials.
But Gil.
Take it.
Context.
No.
Take it.
Context.
Take it.
Jimmy averaged 25, 8, and 6, shot 42% from the field, 35% from three, 83% from the free
throw line.
Caleb Martin averaged 19, 6, and 2, 60% from the field, 49% from three, 87% from the free throw line. Caleb Martin averaged 19, 6 and 2, 60% from the field,
49% from three, 87% from the free throw line.
Now look, let's just be real, Caleb Martin was able to do
that as a result of Celtics focusing on Jimmy.
But, decisive closeout game, Caleb Martin did his thing.
That's cool, that's what's up, congratulations.
He put the cape on, like you know that.
You know that. Congratulations. He put the cape on. Like, you know that. Okay, cool. You know that.
Cool.
So, he stood in for...
Listen, he stood in for Bam. Congratulations.
They just didn't want him to get the MVP
because of Iguodala, that MVP they gave him that year.
That's it. That's it.
I'm telling you right now, I'm Jimmy Butler,
and I done carried us through Bucks.
Yeah.
Right?
Mm-hmm. Who the fuck did they play the next? The New York Knickerbockers. and Adam carried us through Bucks, right?
Who the fuck did they play the next?
The New York Knickerbockers.
Okay, that don't even count,
because they, yeah, they suck, who cares.
Damn, Gil.
I had to carry us through,
They started to play.
I had to carry us through Giannis,
and then I had to do this,
and you even wrote Caleb?
Aight.
Aight. Is it Jimmy Butler, does the media have, it's the same thing we're saying? And you even wrote Caleb? All right. All right.
Is it Jimmy Butler?
Does the media have the same thing we're seeing?
All right.
Is it saltiness with Jimmy Butler?
It's just the saltiness.
Coffee price is too high.
He's too confident.
Somebody got to go different.
Do you really get to put in the earlier series,
or is it just the finals of the Eastern Conference?
Just these seven games.
So that's why you have to put him in the conversation
game. He's not in the conversation. You can't
add the first round, the second round.
That's why I hate when they give out the overall
MVP. They wait until the playoffs is going on
to pick it. It's a regular season
MVP. This is an Eastern
Conference finals MVP.
Kayla Martin did just as much
work in that series. Yeah, he did.
What was Jimmy's stats?
Jimmy, 25, 8 and 6, 42% from the field, 35% from the field. Six assists.
Who's he passing the ball to?
Oh, Kayla Martin.
Those four games.
Those four games.
Those first four games.
Three games.
The first four?
The first four games of Miami.
What was Jimmy's stats?
I don't know.
He didn't have a good game.
It was only the three.
The first two he did.
He had a decent game three. Yeah
Yeah, but the four or five
Okay, 34
To assist but see I don't want to end up I know goddamn Kayla Martin. No you're gonna give Kayla Martin his respect
I'm not giving it to no risk. I'm giving him a suspect for coming to play and being the
Guaranteed number two. Yeah option. Okay being the guaranteed number two option. Okay. Right?
The number two option.
Two!
Not one.
Nobody was sitting there focusing on
no Caleb, so he gets to play
good basketball and he did his
things. Congratulations, but you're not
going to get the fucking vote.
I got six assists. That means I'm passing it
to you. Yes, but you're making it.
Cool. You're making the shot. Congratulations.
I made a good fucking decision. Man.
Were they all good? I made a good
decision. I still think that Jimmy should have been the MVP,
but I still... Hey, who's on that billboard? When they did
this, who's Jimmy Hendrix?
Jimmy Hemmick? Jimmy Hemmy?
Hemmy who?
And y'all voting. I barely won.
Man. I might fight that nigga on the voting. I barely won? Man.
I might fight that nigga on the plane. I might fight that nigga on the plane.
What's up?
I believe that, honestly, Jimmy should have gotten it,
but you can't discredit the fact that without Martin stepping up,
he wasn't coming into the playoffs the number two option.
That's fact.
He was not.
He moved up in that role.
And remember last year?
Why didn't he play last year?
You remember that?
Because we got Hero.
They got Hero.
I mean, it was supposed to be Bam in that number two role.
He was looking like Bam for a lot of that series.
But you got to give him credit.
Let's talk about Caleb Martin just a little bit.
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We're talking about Caleb Martin, definition of an underdog, undrafted, bounced around
the G League, caught on with the Heat, I think signed a three-year, $20 million deal last
season, last summer.
And when we look at
this, you know, first two series, he was averaging
about 10 points a game. Obviously, this series, he jumped
up to close to 20. Will Caleb Martin
continue balling in the finals
or was this series Fugazi?
No, I mean, he has no option.
Right? They don't,
I mean, all of them, they all need
to play amazing basketball, right?
Like, your chance of winning, to be honest, is zero.
So that means you have nothing to lose.
So you just got to go out there and just do you.
Yeah.
You got to go out there and do you.
There's really no – everything – when it comes to the Heat's team, man,
like, what you have done is so amazing right um no one can fault you for if you if you
go out there and get smacked by 30 every game you still did something yeah you did what you had to
do yeah with the talent you had and the guys that um the guys that are on that team, you guys, man, when you,
when you, this series is over and the season,
y'all walk with y'all heads up high, right?
I know y'all thinking championship, unrealistic,
but walk with your heads up high.
Y'all got better.
Y'all did y'all damn thing.
Going to that summer and just like.
I think they got a chance though.
Chance of what?
To winning it.
They got to. Winning what? The NBA finals. they got a chance, though. Chance of what? To winning it. Winning what?
The NBA Finals. They have a chance.
What? We got Kevin Love who's been to the Finals a bunch.
Kyle Lowry has been to the Finals.
He's won it. Jimmy Buller has been
to the Finals. I'm telling you.
I think they got a chance.
I'm not writing them off. The good coaching staff,
they've been there before.
Can we talk hoop? We act like they they all been there. They been there before. Can we talk hoop?
Yeah, we acting like they haven't been there.
They acting like they have guys that haven't been there before.
Can you watch the game?
Like, can we talk what they do?
Like, what makes it okay, like, to say that they could win?
The fact that.
They're going to be well prepared.
They're going to be well prepared.
And also that they dogs.
We what?
A game?
No, I mean, they might win a game.
The NBA going to help them try to win a game. I feel like if they don't play that. What again? No, I mean they might win again the NBA gonna help them try to win a game
If they don't play that zone and they play I think they got a chair got a chance
They got a chance. I don't think they got a chance to win it. It can make it a good series
They can make it a better series. They got it. It's a mismatch on paper. We always
They got it. They got they got it and I'm playing Kevin Love this year too a lot.
Yeah. That's why I don't want to leave. Leave the chat. I'm not high. You need to drink some.
Okay. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Did I just name? I clearly already lost one. You're
going to lose again. I lost. You want to lose it? You guys swept out of here
Then you thought when you thought your team was gonna beat my team my team end up winning anyway my team my team
End up winning anyway
Thinking Boston won't Boston. Oh, just so I would lose just so he could come in here be like I'm a Miami
Miami I'm
Lost the Miami thing I lose my Emmy now. He wouldn't
Now he wouldn't go
He picked Boston I picked my Boston first, yeah, and when Miami went 3-0 he changed
So that's why I even wrote a check you're playing against yourself here
You think boss so? 3-0 he changed. So that's why I even wrote a check. You're playing against yourself here. You picked Boston. So he automatically had
what's the name?
I'm going to beat him.
I told y'all what Boston looked like, right?
The players, three players as a starting lineup
are ranked in the 30s.
Okay.
Have you seen Denver's team who plays just
as hard?
Who don't have no stagnant offense like Boston, right?
You know, it's AAU basketball.
Jalen Brown at the top of the key, two guys right here,
two guys that he's trying to beat a guy with two help defenders,
wonder why he can't get nowhere.
That is not Denver.
Denver plays just as hard Smarter
More talented
We'll see
They've never been there
Miami's been there?
Miami has been to the finals
Name the players
Jimmy Butler
Kyle Lowry
Tyler Hero
Duncan Robinson.
Duncan Rob, they all like four minutes.
They all been in the bed.
They've been there.
They're been there.
It's my point.
They've been there.
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no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I Am saying is they have a chance Miami though
No, they got a chance though, I'm not I'm not writing them off they got it
Yeah, I am NOT know have a chance to make this motherfucker for one. No six at least six or seven
No, hey, hey did the Lakers have a chance?
Did it make it happen to win a game at least the Lakers have a chance to win a game? No, they didn't have a chance to win a game. You predicted that no, I'm the Lakers have a chance did it make it happen to win a game at least the Lakers have a chance to win
A game no, they didn't have a chance to win a game you predicted that no, I'm a Laker fan
So I'm going for my team
Before the Lakers made the playoffs I said you said the Lakers going to the finals. No. Yeah, because they didn't once we get to that once we got
When I talked about the let when I talked about Denver I said
Denver low-key has the best team
because the only teams they ever lost to in the last couple years
were championship teams.
He did say that.
Championship teams.
Now they got their whole roster back?
Shit.
And then he had the Lakers to the Western Conference.
And then because I'm a Laker fan, I'm not going to bet Denver.
That's stupid because I'm a Laker fan.
I'm delusional just like a Clipper fan. I was about to say, you think you're Laker fan. I'm delusional just like a Clipper fan.
I'm delusional just like a Clipper fan.
Now my team was out, so it's back to normal talking.
They have no fucking chance.
I don't even understand what you're talking about.
I think they got a chance.
They have no chance.
Listen, nobody's jumped the 12 teams.
So we don't know who your team really is.
It ain't the Lakers.
You're just jumping.
You do know what my team is not. That's what you do know. You know my team is't the Lakers. You do know what my team is not.
That's what you do know.
You know my team is not the Lakers.
This is Boston versus Denver.
Lakers versus, I mean, Boston versus Denver.
Miami versus Denver.
No matter what team is going to make it, both getting their ass smacked.
You have a talented group who actually plays hard, who has
an offense that
is basically unstoppable because
they just fucking backdoor and move.
Passes. Great passes.
They're passing, backdooring, moving.
They don't have enough talent. Who's guarding Murray?
So they're the greatest team in the world
all of a sudden because they swept the shit out of them.
No, they was the greatest.
I'm putting Jimmy on Murray.
That's fine with me. I'm putting Jimmy on Murray. They need a bet. They was elite when they were all healthy. I'm putting Jimmy on Murray.
That's fine.
Now, that shuts that down.
I was going for you.
That shuts that down.
That doesn't shut it down.
Yes.
I mean, listen.
It's going to be tough.
All right.
Now, you put Jimmy on Murray.
Cool.
Okay.
Cool.
You're putting Jimmy on Murray.
Yep.
Okay.
Now, Jimmy's wasting his energy.
Jimmy, he got enough.
We got enough.
Confidence coffee. I mentioned that coffee. Yeah, he got enough. That's what he do. We got enough.
Confidence coffee.
I'm not much in that coffee.
Yeah, we got enough of that.
And who's, who's.
First of all, I can tell you this right now off jump.
Just Jokic production as a person by himself.
That's going to take Jimmy and Bam combined.
It's going to be okay.
I'm putting Kevin Love in the game.
I'm putting Kevin Love in the game with Bam.
But Kevin Love is going to give you about 14 to 16.
Man, that's a lot.
Listen, we just need some world.
We need something.
Cody Della might be the X-Factor.
We need something.
Cody Della might be the X-Factor.
They love that he ain't a champion.
That he ain't been to the finals five straight years.
Like, come on.
Listen, listen.
Like, come on.
If you look at Miami, it was easy for them to sit in a zone.
We can sit down.
Boston played one-on-one basketball. And we're going to sit in the zone. We can sit down.
Because Boston played one-on-one basketball. And we're going to sit again.
They did not play team defense.
They shot 42 threes from people who don't shoot threes.
Listen, I'm sitting in that zone again.
You give Denver 42 threes.
Give Denver 42 threes.
That's fine.
You're not giving Denver 42 threes. That's fine. You're not giving Denver 42-3. That's fine. We'll
see. We got to see. We'll see. We'll see. That ball get heavy in that finals. Who's
giving Denver 42-3? You're giving Denver 42-3s. You're going to let Denver just shoot three.
KCP, MPJ. Get a hand up. We're going to contest and we're going to live with it. Everything I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, Let them go. Bam can play Joker head up. I didn't say you could stop.
I didn't say you could stop.
I said he could play a man up.
I didn't say you could stop.
We are team basketball.
We can all play basketball.
I can play him too.
Yeah, you could thank you
God, like Joker if you got help send a baseline we got them
This is very uneven and in my opinion it could get out of here
That's why I wanted the Lakers to win cuz it was a easy chip. You're getting out of here
That's why the Miami here. I was. Lakers won their chip against who?
The fraudulent Warriors.
Cooking.
Denver.
All that.
Lakers and Denver just switched.
Your turn.
They won what chip?
The Lakers won what chip?
And just for the record.
The who?
Against who?
The who?
Against who?
He just said that.
He said what?
We're playing defeat.
We were in the bubble.
We got the plate.
The with the white Howard and then with the white hard with the high Howard.
Why how did Rondo there?
Yeah.
No, that's the whole fact against the same team who in the finals right now.
Yeah, but without playing you serious right now.
We it was the easiest chip LeBron ever had with J. R Smith
Suffered it all was in there
2020 was the easiest team. Okay good. Look we can lie and put X's on it now
He was the best team we've ever seen
couple in the bubble Miami Heat
Easiest team we ever played my couple in the bubble. Miami Heat was the easiest team
we ever played
Bron.
The NBA gave them two games.
It should have been a sweep.
It should have been a sweep.
Now Denver is playing
the same team
without Hero.
Man, come on, man.
It's a different team, Gil.
Come on.
I'm pretty sure
I'm pretty sure
Denver didn't
motherfucker like,
hey, hey, man. that motherfucker like, hey.
Hey, man.
Jason and Julie, hey, man, can you put an easy, put an easy.
How could the Lakers get swept?
Did y'all talk about the Lakers sweep already last week when I wasn't here?
No.
No, I said.
We touched on it last week.
I said the Lakers should have swept the Miami Heat, but they made it.
The NBA made it a couple games.
Denver's playing the same team, just less talent now.
Oh, my God.
Come on, y'all.
What is wrong with y'all?
But more heart, Gil.
More heart.
Eating.
Hey, Coach.
Eating.
Going to win again.
I'm going to win again.
I'm going to come up again.
With the same strut.
BJ's not picking the heat, though.
I came in here strutted twice already.
He ain't picking the heat.
He ain't picking the heat.
What?
I'm not picking the heat, but I'm just saying,
it ain't going to be easy, though.
I don't think they just going to lay down. I don't think they just laying down. No, they're not going to lay down. They're going to fight. I'm not picking the heat, but I'm just saying it ain't going to be easy, though. I don't think they're just going to lay down.
I don't think they're just
laying down.
No, they're not going to lay down.
They're going to fight.
I'm always the only one.
So look,
this is our last day
to be able to talk Celtics.
They got Sam Packing.
We're not going to give a shit
about him beyond Tuesday.
We're going to talk
Heat Nuggets all the way up
this week, next week.
That's going to be our show.
Viewers are probably
going to stumble a little bit.
Bear with us.
We're going to come
with other topics, too, to keep you guys engaged.
Keep the casuals excited.
And we still have 9,000.
So I'm going to be honest with you.
You kind of fucked it up.
You were fucking with our bag a little bit when you told people to jump ship.
Like 1,000 people jumped off.
1,000 people jumped off?
That's called real fans.
That's called real fans.
Loyalty.
But then they snuck back up.
Loyal.
My fans are loyal.
They're loyal.
We're going to keep it about.
Listen, even if they get the 99, I need a guaranteed 100.
Just drop.
Just drop.
If they were really loyal, they would download the Underdog Fantasy.
Yeah.
Use promo code Gills Arena.
This is what everybody right now.
Look, leave.
No.
Download.
Multi-tag.
Download the Fantasy app.
I'm going to wear something with my fist hanging out.
Download the Fantasy app.
Multi-tag.
You can watch this on one browser.
First of all, we're not even allowed to smoke on YouTube, so this is going to be like, is it this year?
We're going to put this on Instagram.
It's going to be before we come on.
We will find another platform to show you smoking.
It's gonna be before we come on.
Wait, wait, hold on, just so we get the rules.
Do I gotta smoke like soon as the 10K go?
No, you're gonna do it after we get off air,
we gonna record you smoking and go put it on YouTube,
I mean on Instagram, separate video.
I think he should smoke before we come on set.
YouTube's official policy says that cannabis can be
defeated if the youth is over 21
and cannabis is legal in the state that they're doing it.
Over 21.
Oh, I'm mentally like at 12, so.
No, I identify as a 12-year-old.
Oh, God.
I identify as 12 going on 11.
So let's talk a little bit about these cells.
They try to make history on Memorial Day,
becoming the first team in NBA history to overcome a o3 deficit
Gossip packing by the heat smacking
Before the game TNT got part of Joe Missoula's pregame speech to the subject. So we want to play that for you guys 99.9 second. All right? Tonight it may take 48, it may take 53, it may take 58.
It doesn't matter.
You brand it and you stay in it for however long you have to stay in it for.
You better fucking smile like you.
You better have the most fun you can.
All right, that's the most important thing.
Let's go.
Let's go.
Let's go.
Together, on three.
One, two, three.
Yeah!
Yeah, that's a losing speech.
Okay.
What'd you think of Mazzoula's pregame speech?
It sounded like he knew that we were gonna lose. Would that motivate you to go out there and get a dub in front of your primarily Caucasian fan base in Boston,
Bill Simmons, the import noise of the world?
Hall Pierce, right over there, too.
No, that sounded like a losing.
Like, almost like he knew they were going to lose.
Like, why would you say that?
Why would you be like, you're going to smile?
You better fucking smile, Gil, when you say it. No, why would you say that? Why would you be like, you're gonna smile.
You better fucking smile, Gil, when you say it.
No, smile while you playing.
Listen, all that shit sounds cute.
And I'm gonna say this, if you in a game seven at home
and the coach has to tell you something
to get you ready for this game.
Exactly.
Done.
You have a point exactly.
My point exactly.
So he's a rookie head coach, would you just be like if you tell him or Jalen Brown,
like look, dog, just shut the fuck up.
No, I mean, coach is going to do what coach is going to do, but as a player, I don't need
my, I don't need my coach to tell me shit.
Yeah, some people do though.
There's a lot of players.
Y'all, you could have said, it'd be more powerful.
Hey, get the fuck out.
You ready? Hey, don't even say nothing. Real shit. Fuck around. It'll be more powerful a
We know we know we know
And a niggas get the hypers on that type of energy. Like, when everybody in there, like, everybody focused, and we can feel that.
She be like, oh, yeah, we about to whoop the fuck.
Whoever out there, they gonna get their ass whooped.
Look, yo, this got us thinking.
What's your favorite pregame speech from your career,
if you don't mind sharing with us?
We played, uh...
No, we played, we were playing Spurs, right?
They whooped our ass every game.
Every game, every year.
So board was blank, right?
Coach was like, all right, ain't nothing on the board.
Usually we prep for them, give you all everything.
They done whooped our ass, right?
We go out there and played really hard.
They played hard.
They whooped our ass
so
Let's try something different just go out there and play see if they have scouted that I was like
We're not there with that ass that was our only way. That right there, no board.
Out there, whooped the ass, had 41.
Less is more.
That was my best game.
Yeah.
I started looking for that every game.
Hey, man, can we erase this shit?
Let's go out there and play some basketball.
I ain't got to call no plays, no fire down, no nothing.
Oh, shit.
All right.
Play, nigga.
That was the best speech.
Go out there and play.
I didn't have no speech.
No motivation from Coach's whistle? Nothing. It was just music. I just got ready. I didn't really listen to them. Yeah. I didn't play. I didn't have no speech. No motivation from Coach's Whistle?
Nothing.
Nothing.
It was just music.
I just got ready.
I didn't really listen to them.
Yeah, I didn't listen.
I was there at like 4 o'clock.
I've been there all day, like, let's go play.
Oh, you're like, what you gotta say?
Yeah, like, let's just go play now.
You?
All right.
Oh, man.
It was always, like you said, getting caught in that moment, knowing, fantasizing, you
know, using your imagination, trying to stay in the moment.
Who was your coaches?
I had Scott Skiles.
Yeah, there ain't no motivation.
I had Dwayne Casey and Randy Whitman.
Casey was so bad.
He wasn't mellow?
I had Scott Skiles.
I had Jeff Hornacek up in New York.
I had Kenny Mack.
No, I mean, the first one you said, he wasn't cool-
Dwayne.
Yeah, he wasn't cool-minded?
No.
Oh, for sure.
I had Stan Bann.
Stan Bann, every game, though.
Every game, though, you was getting it, though.
Every game was something.
What the?
Shit.
What is this water sip signal?
Because you were not thirsty prior to this segment.
It does not look damn water.
You don't like the same?
You don't like Stan? That He don't like the same?
That is not water.
I hope we got it worse. Do we got it worse?
Okay. Bring me to my next question.
Okay. What's the worst pregame feature?
Stan Van Gundy.
What do you say?
We playing
Hawks.
I think it was game five.
It was an ending game.
Right.
He has all these.
Gentlemen's sweep.
No, he has all these stats up there, right?
Yep.
The board is filled up.
The board is filled.
The board is filled with everything.
Right.
This was probably the worst speech I've ever heard in sports.
What was the stat that they had?
Zero teams, right?
Zero teams who were down 0-3, right?
Mm-hmm.
He had that stat up there.
To tell y'all that y'all had no chance.
Oh, yeah.
Every stat to show, like, team that was down,
O that was playing on the road, lost. Like, you're just sitting there like, team that was down, O-Dat that was playing on the road, lost.
Like, you're just sitting there like, damn.
Like, damn, man.
He put every statistical stat to show
why the road team who was down 3-1 lost.
Like, we...
Everybody look.
One, two, three.
All right, team.
That's fucking weak.
Like we left.
Oh, we getting our ass whooped.
Like you just told us for the last 20 minutes how we don't supposed to win because all the statistics said it.
It was the worst.
What was the purpose of that?
Like it was one of those, hey, come on, man.
Hey, hey.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Rip it off.
All eyes on me.
Rip it off.
What the fuck was that?
We're just sitting there like...
Where was this at? We was in Hawks.
We was playing in
Atlanta. I was in Orlando.
I don't understand being like that.
Listen, I understand what
he probably was trying to do. He was probably
trying to say, hey, zero teams
did this. You can be the one.
It was probably one of those reverse psychology.
But you are literally
it's like your girl
giving you all your flaws.
Right? And say,
alright baby, what's happening?
And you're like, oh.
Take a limp.
Little, this, the smell, your friends
ain't shit, you ain't shit, your mama ain't shit,
this and that.
But you can change all of that.
Right, but yeah, you can be different than your father.
You're like, nah, I don't know.
No thanks.
No thanks.
No thank you.
It was the worst.
It was the worst shit I've ever, ever... It was the worst shit I've ever heard in my life if JJ remember a JJ the white
if y'all remember that speech uh Quentin Richardson please please let these people know
how our mood was after that game I mean after that that speech it was just one of those things like
all right y'all this is gonna be a good a good summer. Let's talk about these subs a little more.
And we appreciate everybody in the chat who's rocking with us.
There were the devastating blow we saw in that video clip earlier, Tatum.
Early in the first quarter, the ankle injury.
I think he played 42 minutes.
It was obvious he wasn't himself.
So we gotta put on our hypothetical hat.
We already know what really happened.
But if Tatum doesn't get hurt, is this outcome different?
Or whether he going to pack up the Celtics no matter what?
How many minutes did he play?
42.
42.
Okay.
I don't think the outcome would have been different.
I just feel like the Celtics did not come to play.
Like they had every opportunity in the first quarter
to run away with the game a little bit.
They missed like what, 10 threes in a row or whatever.
Like it just didn't look like they gave the game away to me.
And I don't think him not rolling his ankle would have changed anything.
They just they shouldn't have been there. They probably should have lost to the Sixers.
And I don't know, but it just they just didn't look like they really wanted to play that game And it was sad because I really thought I wanted to see like something crazy and dramatic like the game six ending and there's just
It was a blowout at that. It wasn't they could have saved that layup
That he made yeah, they're gonna save that layup. I mean wasted all our time on yesterday yesterday. Yeah, just wasted waste of time
waste of time
Listen, he played 42 minutes, right? How many minutes are in the game?
Okay
He was hobbled though Gil cool honey minutes he play
With the hobble ankle Kobe played with a broken thumb
We play with a separate
Shot left-handed. I'm just I'm just yeah, I mean mean, because we have the Laker hater right here, right?
You don't give a fuck about LeBron's ankle been gone.
So why should I give a fuck about an ankle that happened,
but you still played 42 minutes, okay?
You played 42 minutes.
Thank you very much.
I'm just telling you.
42 minutes.
So I don't even know what we.
That's validation.
That's an air of five right there.
You played 42 minutes. You healthy. God has become best my best friend as a validation right there. What did you mean?
two minutes I
Bet you might be winning game one in Denver that that that sound like some NBA shit right there
That's not listen aviation. That's NBA right there. Give give the hope I bet you they give bet you they get one
Bam got a step over Joker.
Hey, listen.
Ask Dave.
Are we betting on that? No, no. Ask Dave.
When
Miami was playing
Thunder in the championship,
I said,
this is what's going to happen.
The NBA is going to allow Thunder to win it
because we just got our lockout.
Talk about the smaller teams.
They're going to have the smaller team win.
And then it's going to be sweep after that.
And that's exactly what happened.
I'm the NBA.
Do it.
Don't give them no sorry little.
It don't matter.
No sorry little fuckers.
Don't give them no sorry fuckers a game.
That'll carry the conversation to Sunday
and at least to the next Wednesday
because it'll be 1-1 going into game three.
We still have hope and optimism.
Let's be real, the Nuggets go up 2-0.
You're already going to struggle to get fans to watch this, the casual fans.
We all love beautiful basketball.
We'll all watch anyway.
But I'm going to say it's going to be a struggle to build those storylines.
If there's anybody on the planet, no, not the planet, because there are Miami Heat delusionals out there, right?
If there's any basketball analysts on TV really lying to these folks
that Miami has a chance, you should be fined.
Or fired.
Or fired for lack of a better word.
That's a good TV.
Gil. Do not cap
to my basketball audience.
Game two.
Miami will win game two
and three and four.
You just be saying anything.
They're going to win the two in Miami.
They're going to take one in
Denver. So they're going to be up 3-1.
They're going to end up 3-1. Oh
Tricky, I don't know
I don't know after that you but I'm just
I'm just saying go if they can get one in Denver. They can take two in my eyes because it's my
Miami six-man injects a whole
I go to those games all the time
It's okay six minute Miami is not that big of a deal we get we get one in Denver, uh-huh
You know, I'm in my hand for feeling good
Miami
I just want to be realistic. LeBron James averaged what in that last series?
What was it?
27, 28 something.
Anthony Davis averaged.
So he played statistically better than Jimmy Butler did in his last series.
Anthony Davis played better than what's tonight.
28-10-10.
What is it?
28-10-10.
28-10-10.
Damn, he was on a janky.
I know.
Damn.
28-10-10.
Hey, Dr. I'm on LeBron, you sweat?
Anthony Davis.
Wait.
Two 6'10 people who can control a game.
Joker walked through them motherfuck dog walk him and you telling me
With a straight fucking fake a Laker team is trash Jimmy Butler. They make her team was try me
Salvation Army Lakers played Miami Heat Salvation. I got the ladies walking through Miami. No way
No way you're telling me someone who walked through two Hall of Famers,
like they was babies at the YMCA.
I don't know why AD's a Hall of Famer.
And you think Miami.
I don't know why AD's a Hall of Famer.
Yo, Teens was doing that to the Lakers all season long.
Walking through those same two Hall of Famers you talked about.
Walking right through one
Hall of Famer.
Is he not a Hall of Famer now?
For what? It's a very low criteria.
For what?
For what?
Why is AD a Hall of Famer? For what?
Listen.
I just think you talking. I don't think you're willing
to put no money on it.
And that joker money on it. 28, 10, and 8, and that joker
walked through it.
Right? You telling me.
You telling me Miami got
something better than 28, 10,
and 8? They got more effort
than that. 28, 10,
and 8.
Whatever that was, Jimmy said,
we not going in the barbecue pit.
No, I'm just saying.
28, 10, and 8 is just, that's an even not going in the barbecue pit. No, I'm just saying. 28, 10, and 8,
that's the even mark to get
your ass swept. It sound good.
Jimmy Butler's going to have to average
40, 10, and 8
just to compete with Joker himself.
Talking about stats, man.
We don't show up with numbers,
man. We show up with the coffee.
The only way, I'm going to tell you this.
I'm going to let you know, the only way he get a game is when you see this.
Joker, go sit on the bench.
Murray, sit on the bench.
MPJ, sit on the bench.
That's the only way.
Isn't that called basketball strategy?
No, I'm telling you.
I thought that was a part of the basketball strategy.
To get these guys to play defense to get him In foul trouble
They did that they did that the joke when they were trying to get and when they were trying to get the Lakers
That third game game three home and they tried that they was putting
And they still
Walk through that game. They still cooked it. They still walked through that game.
That was the only way the refs can do it.
It's the ref.
As long as Joker and Murray's on the floor, Miami ain't got no fucking chance, man.
I'm sorry.
Put in the zone.
AD not a Hall of Famer, though?
Why?
Answer the question.
Hall of Famer?
Yeah, why?
Answer the question, Joe.
Why?
He not a Hall of Famer?
He asked you a question.
Why?
Why is he a Hall of Famer? Why? He asked you a question. Why?
Why is he a Hall of Famer?
Well, well, well.
I'm just asking you why.
I mean, because the NBA set the bar low.
Okay, so the NBA set it low.
If you look at the criteria and they measure your entire basketball resume.
Does it get your whole basketball resume?
Yes.
It's not the pro basketball Hall of Famer.
Man, I don't give a fuck about all that.
I'm just telling you.
Your college shit and overseas.
I don't give a fuck about that.
This is what you did as a pro. I don't care about your college stats. I'm just and overseas. I don't give a fuck about that. This is what you did as a pro.
I don't care about your college stats.
I'm just letting you know.
You know how they operate.
I don't care about you.
So the Lakers going to retire AD Jersey?
No.
I didn't say all that.
No, hell no.
You said Hall of Famer.
Well, he's a Hall of Famer.
There's a bunch of Hall of Famers that don't got their jersey retired.
Who?
Gary Payton.
Well, Seattle.
Barkley.
Seattle Superstars is not a team.
Barkley. It don't matter. OKC, that's still. Barkley. Seattle's super-strongest not a team. Barkley.
It don't matter.
OKC, that's still-
Barkley is in Philly.
He is?
Barkley got his jersey retired?
Yeah.
Damn.
Wait, not Phoenix though?
I'm positive.
Not Phoenix?
No.
Wow.
Listen, they moved different in Arizona.
Yeah, he was MVP at Phoenix, right?
And got to the finals, right?
Uh-huh.
So let's talk a little bit about Jalen Brown.
We talked about him earlier. Tatum goes down with the ankle injury he's still playing he played 42
minutes Gilby he was not himself. Perfect opportunity for Jalen Brown to step up
he's trying to get that with that super max I believe he's eligible because he made
all NBA team. 8 for 23 from the field he finished with 19 points, eight turnovers.
But after the game, he admitted, he didn't say there were steps to success, he said that
he failed with this opportunity to lead the Celtics to glory.
But will Jalen Brown, we've talked about this before, but I need to know where you guys
stand now after seeing this Game 7 performance.
Will Jalen Brown ever be the guy for a championship contender?
Listen, listen, how many shots did he take?
He took 23 field goal attempts.
23? 23. I'm cool
with him. You're rocking with
him still? Yeah. Listen,
I even wrote
it. I said, listen, I can tell if Jalen
Brown's going to leave
if he goes into this game
and quits and don't take no
shots and don't be aggressive.
If he takes some shots to try to actually show up,
then he didn't give up.
So the fact that he took 23 shots,
let me know that he actually came to try to win that game.
Right? I mean, he didn't, you know, he just wasn't on.
Yeah.
You know?
Jalen Brown and Tatum to me are like funny in the light period.
Like, I don't think they should be separated.
I just think that they're not light guys that they're they don't show up in big moments.
You know, like they just won't do it.
Even the shot selection.
You see how many times they will pass the ball when the shot clock was down.
Like, I didn't understand why they weren't being more aggressive and being the guy
because you always talk about which one is the guy.
It was like, oh, it's Tatum, you know what I'm saying?
But Tatum don't always show up.
So then Brown shows up.
They kind of counter each other in a way.
I feel like they should stay together.
But they just won't ever be anything because both of them, to me,
are funny in the light.
It's offense, right?
You have a offense that is just one-on-one basketball on that side,
one-on-one basketball on that side.
There's no movement.
There's no plays.
You know, if Tatum is playing, he's shooting jumpers,
not getting to the free throw line.
Jalen last night, he had two free throws early,
not another free throw again, right?
You're not forcing plays that you're settling for what they're making you
settle for, and you guys are dumb enough to do it, right?
Like, you have Jalen Brown.
You are a rim player.
How many
free throws did this man take the series?
I guarantee you less than 10.
I know for
sure it has to be less than 10 because I took
every free throw. Yesterday I had three
and a half. He took two early
on the year. He finished with
two. Sick. It's happened a
few times. I don't know. They're just not funny in the light. I look at them different.
I look at Jalen as a capable leader. He took accountability to being able to admit that he wasn't ready to take the helms once the leader went down.
Usually you get comfortable.
He get comfortable behind Batman because Batman does it so well.
And then Batman stop all of a sudden.
It's like, oh, shit, what do I do?
Oh, they're depending on me.
We're in a huddle and everybody's looking at me like, all right, Jalen, what we got?
And he's like, man, I'm trying.
Like you said, he can shoot 23 shots and it can look aggressive, but mentally in that
confidence coffee that Jimmy gives the other team, he's not giving that to the Boston Celtics.
So it's like, it counterbalances.
So I look at Jalen like a guy who admitted through accountability as a leader capable leader
That he needs to get his own shit together when it comes to his confidence and big and big nut moments
And he missed out on it. This is that was all just bullshit
No, it was no different in what what coach said that oh, I took all the responsibility when the coach took the blame
For I didn't have them prepared. It's just something you're just doing. He's not just saying that.
Tatum was playing, so no one's
looking at Green as the fucking
leader.
I mean, Brown.
No one looked at Brown
to say,
my fucking number one player is still right here.
It's not like he left and didn't play anymore.
They know he can't
forfeit.
I'm not going to let Brown.
Tatum not going to stand down.
So then I'm not the number one leader.
But they looking at him like we.
No one looked at Brown for nothing.
Yes, they did.
That's what he said.
I don't care what he said.
The only way I'm the number one is if the fucking guy is off the floor.
No, Gil.
No, Gil.
As long as LeBron is playing, AED is not the floor. No, Gil. No, Gil. As long as LeBron is playing, AED is not doing shit.
No, Gil.
Period.
You know, if you can play and you can be on the floor with your team, you can go out there
just like Cole playing with a dislocated shoulder.
Yes.
If I can go out there and be 70% Cole, it's better than a lot of niggas on the shit, right?
But we know as a team, Cole ain't 100%.
We got to pick up the slack.
Oh.
Because he out here.
He going to be out. We can't tell him to sit down. You have a point. We can't tell him We got to pick up the slack. Because he out here. He going to be out.
We can't tell him to sit down.
You have a point.
We can't tell him to sit down.
We all know we can't tell him.
So we got to roll with him.
And we got to roll outside of him.
No one's thinking that.
I'm trying to tell you that.
But we got to roll outside of him.
So if you can't roll outside.
Jalen not ready to roll outside of him while he's still there.
He's still there.
He's in the way.
He's still there.
He's still there.
But he in the way.
He's going to always be a star.
He's never going to be that man. Tatum's in the way. He's going to always be a star. He's never going to be that man.
Tatum's in the way because he's hurt.
He ain't 100%.
We all know that.
He can't move laterally.
He couldn't do nothing but stand still and shoot the jumper.
So Jalen Brown's trying to figure out, how do I still move inside of this while this
nigga's in the way?
So he's not the number one?
He's still saying he's in the way.
So that means he's not actually taking responsibility as the number one option.
He's taking responsibility.
You're still in the way.
I never said he was taking responsibility as the number one option.
I said he's taking accountability for not stepping up and failing as the number two.
No, he didn't.
That's what I said.
He was number two.
Number one didn't show up.
He failed as the number two.
No, he did number two.
Number one didn't show up.
But he's not going to blame number one.
See, that's what you're not understanding. He's taking accountability for his own sake, Gil. No, he did number two number one didn't show up, but he's not gonna blame number one
One that doesn't want to blame everybody else he taking accountability bro. What did he have?
It don't matter what he had he lost he has an L he going home. That's the only thing that matter
We're trying to blame off the number one option because the number two option said,
oh, I didn't show up.
He did show up.
Number one didn't.
How did he? Number one didn't.
He got hurt.
He tweaked his ankle, still played 42 minutes.
Bro, he got hurt.
If you're hurt, sit the fuck down.
Let me do my thing.
He got hurt.
If I hurt my ankle and I'm on the court. You're not getting the ball
I don't know what you're talking about. You're not the number one option. I'm still here Kobe hole Kobe in this motherfucker like this
Yeah, the only point he passed the ball. Everything he's saying is going to get you an L.
Everything he's saying is going to get you an L.
What he's trying to say is if the guy's still playing,
you still have number two responsibilities.
And as a number two, he had 19 points.
Maybe the eight turnovers was pretty bad.
Trying to do too much.
You're trying to do too much because I'm the –
He took accountability.
Kobe Bryant was on the floor shooting left-handed hidden jumper
Be why are we talking about? I'm telling you when the number one option is there
Oh be if the number one option is on the court. Everyone stays in their position
Yeah, now if Tatum was off the floor
It made Jalen Brown the number one option. Then we get to Ashley Garfield. All we doing right now is trying.
All he did, all he did by saying that was try to take the blame off of Tatum for being hurt.
Tell me what Hooper in the fucking world is not going to be on the floor on a game seven.
A hurt one.
In a game seven.
A hurt one.
What Hooper is going on the line?
A hurt one.
If I can walk and move, it's not going to play in this game.
Every Hooper?
Every Hooper is going to play.
Okay, so what are you saying?
It don't matter the severity.
So what are you saying?
I'm saying, Jalen Brown is never going to have-
We're not talking, why is Jalen Brown-
I'm talking, let me finish my point.
If Jalen Brown is waiting for Jason Tatum to stand down and sit out-
No.
No.
No.
No. No. No. No. No. Jalen Brown is never going to have- We're not talking... Why is Jalen Brown- I'm talking... Let me finish my point.
If Jalen Brown is waiting for Jason Tatum to stand down and sit out on a game seven
for us to go to the fucking finals, it's not going to happen.
Okay, so what the-
So now I have to figure out how to be number one when the number one don't want
to sit down.
He know he can't play.
You're not-
He know he can't do what he need to do to take us to the next level. It's on me.
I'm taking accountability. You're not even an option.
I'm taking accountability. You're not an
option. You're number two, sir. I'm taking
accountability for
not doing what I'm supposed to do
for my team. You did what you did.
You're the number two, nigga.
That's all you are. That's why he apologized. He said,
I did not do what I
was supposed to do to get success we
fail you he said we fail and I know my shit happened this as the number one option I
didn't agree not fuck with you. Oh cool. I fuck with
loss as the number one option I
Appreciate your dumb ass. They don't matter about I fucked up. We understand
We on the same team it don't matter who I we both lost
Hey, we both lost it. Why does it matter about options?
We don't Charles number two cool game blaming? Hey, cool. We both lost. Number two, cool.
You ain't blaming me?
Cool.
Hell no.
We lost.
Cool.
I wish Anthony Davis stood up and said, yeah, it's my fault we fucked up.
He wasn't that stupid.
No, because he ain't a leader.
He wasn't that dumb.
He ain't a leader.
He wasn't that dumb.
He ain't a leader.
Only leaders do that shit.
Only leaders will stand up and run over me.
Y'all good.
Run over me.
I'll take it.
I don't think.
I'll take the hit.
Just like the coach.
Real leaders take the hit.
Just like the coach did.
I'll take the hit.
I didn't have my players.
I'll take the hit.
Real leaders.
No, they just fucking went out there and just.
Your plan was perfect.
Come on, man.
They didn't execute.
But the coach, instead of him blaming that, he blamed himself.
Come on, man.
Hey, listen.
That shit is cool. That shit sounds honorable yeah if it is if it
sounds good it is good but you're not good it is good you're not as good but
that's what I'm saying you're you're you're sound like a role player I'm a
team player Gil Gil. Cool.
What you mean?
I get that.
What you don't get is you keep separating it.
I get a team.
It's team.
It's only team.
That is cool.
It's only team, bro.
That sounds great.
I would have went in there and said, hey, listen, I understand that he wants to take responsibility,
but he wasn't even in that fucking position.
My ankle was hurt.
I thought I can play through it.
I fucked up.
That's my fault.
Yeah.
I'm the number one option.
As long as I'm on the court,
that is my responsibility.
Period.
Yeah.
I don't give a shit.
Jalen Green, the coach,
you didn't have us prepared.
I didn't play well as the number one option.
Yeah.
I played 42 fucking minutes.
14 points.
I took 13 shots.
That means I did not even give us a chance to fucking win.
Yeah, you didn't shoot.
Period.
I don't care if Marcus Smart said, hey, it's my fault we lost because I was one for 13.
First of all, you shouldn't have had 13 fucking shots.
Yeah.
Keep it real.
This is a team, But it's not.
But it's ran by the stars.
Marcus Martin, four for ten, by the way.
Just want to.
Cool.
I'm just saying.
Sounds like great.
You're going to get us.
What was he?
Four for ten.
Four for ten.
How many threes did the non-three-point shooter take?
He was one for six.
But I guarantee you, he didn't take responsibility for missing all those fucking shots.
That Jason Tatum got hurt.
All the shots he missed were the threes.
And he?
Yeah. We can do this all day.
All I'm saying. Jalen Green
South? I mean, Jalen Brown? Listen.
I get what you're saying. Cool.
It's not your responsibility.
Period. And I don't think leadership
comes in the press conference either.
That don't make much of don't mean nothing to me.
That's not leadership, like trying to fake own something.
Fake own, yes.
That's a fake own to me.
So we're going into fake things now?
That's his most aggressive game, right?
I guarantee that's his most aggressive game.
That is his most aggressive game.
So are we not used to people taking accountability?
People who don't have accountability.
Is this where we are in our society?
People who don't have accountability.
I've got to say, I've got to say, I've got to say, I've got to say, I've got to say,
I've got to say, I've got to say, I've got to say, I've got to say, I've got to say, I've
got to say, I've got to say, I've got to say, I've got to say, I've got to say, I've got
to say, I've got to say, I've got to say, I've got to say, I've got to say, I've got to say,
I've got to say, I've got to say, I've got to say, I've got to say, I've got to say, I've got to say, I've got to say, I've got to say, I've got to say, I've got to say, I've got to say, I've got to say, I've got to say, I've got to say, I've got to say, I've got to say, I've got to say, I've got to say, I've got to say, I've got to say, I've got to say, I've got to say, I've got to say, I've got to say, That is the most aggressive game. So are we not used to people taking accountability?
People who don't have accountability. Is this where we are in our society?
People who don't have accountability.
A guy actually just comes out and says, I didn't play well enough.
To do what?
To help my team win.
Cool.
That's what Jalen Brown did.
He was 7 for 23 in game two.
So now doing that is fake?
Game two, 7 for 23.
Game seven, 8 for 23.
This is what we doing? It's fake game to December 23 game through against what we're doing This what we doing is fake
Yes, it's fake to take it
Ownership honestly because it really is fake ownership. It's not your ownership
That's why I say I can say if Jason Tatum had 40 and then he played bad and didn't help
I'm on the team that lost.
Cool.
Yeah, I'm a player on the team that lost.
I take accountability for not doing enough as a player on the team.
What did you have again?
That's simple.
What did you have again?
19.
I take my part.
I could have did more.
I could have did more.
I think what they're saying is nobody cares to hear his opinion.
Who are you? It's game seven. It don't matter who he is. I could have did more. I think what they're saying is, though, nobody cares to hear his opinion.
Who are you?
It's game seven.
It don't matter who he is.
You're number two option.
They put the mic in front of his face and ask him questions.
He answer, I should have did more.
Cool.
Which I want him to do.
But for a guy who doesn't want to.
I do not want to hear what you should have did.
It's not your job.
So you want to hear it from Jason Tatum?
Yes, that's his job.
But he didn't do it.
Who's the face?
So he's not the leader.
Is he the leader? That's what I, but he didn't do the face. So he's not the lead
Listen it sounds amazing. You're the number two option wanting to take responsibility for me cool
So the real ownership comes from the leader that didn't say nothing yes
What does that sound like the real ownership comes from the leader that didn't say nothing it's supposed to to. Who's the face of Boston? Oh, my God. Who is the face of Boston?
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
This is like you playing in this game seven, Ticket gets hurt, right?
But he's in the game.
And then you as the number two option, number two option,
y'all still going to number one, and you took 23 shots, had 19,
didn't play great, didn't play at all
And then you go on there and say yeah, you know, I could have did more but I didn't do ticket looking at you like
Nobody's talking about
What does that have to do with me?
It has nothing to do with me saying that no no me saying it is how I feel cool
I could have did more ticket can do it like that has nothing to do with me feel I should have drove more I
should have shot I should have shot them open shots that I got as a mean I did
what does it mean I didn't but what is it double-race what does it mean in real
life what do you mean you think you're gonna that's why he gave that's why he's
giving accountability because they don't mean nothing cuz it don't mean nothing
now it's just like finding out LeBron had tendons torn in his fucking foot. It don't fucking matter now. No, we don't care
But you're giving him credit no, I'm just saying it's accountability he's given accountability
It's not LeBron not saying, hey, man, you know what?
Even though my fucking foot was fucked up, man, we lost.
Hey, how many times?
No, no, no.
How many times?
He didn't say that, though.
But he didn't say that.
I know he didn't.
Okay, so it's not the same thing.
How many games did Jalen Brown play bad that he gave accountability in his playoffs?
None.
None.
Maybe he didn't play bad enough to say it.
He did.
Same shit.
Them first three games was garbage.
Garbage.
So, again, I don't care about your fake, fake, what's the name?
It's just...
We're going to call it on.
We can talk about this shit all day.
We appreciate y'all, the 8,000 people that are still rocking with the show.
We know you love this shit.
That's why I just let them cook and let them go off.
But now it's time for our favorite segment of the show,
because that means it's almost time to go home.
Mostly fans.
Told you this was like the oldie fans.
Mostly fans.
But before we talk about mostly fans, Gil, we got some semi-breaking news.
You'll care about it.
Brandon will care about it.
Restless won't give a shit.
Rashad, you might care by extension.
Caleb Love, former North Carolina standout,
officially transferring to Arizona
Then you try to go to Michigan. I don't know what the bag situation looked like over there
So apparently they came through with the bigger bag Tommy Lloyd and then we're down
Savage mode to me sir. Hey, we gonna see it's gonna be enjoyable watching him and get cooked by UCLA getting vengeance
Where do you come getting? Getting our vengeance.
North Carolina.
North Carolina.
Oh, y'all lost.
Y'all just lost a player to us.
Huh?
Y'all lost a player to us.
We lost a what?
Y'all lost a player to us.
We lost a player to y'all?
Yeah, we gave away garbage.
Oh.
No disrespect for the St. Louisan.
He's a St. Louisan.
No, no, no, no.
This is what we're gonna do.
We're just gonna have to remind him.
We're gonna remind him.
We're gonna remind him.
We're gonna remind him.
We're gonna remind him. We're gonna remind him. We're gonna remind him. We're gonna remind him. No disrespect for the St. Louisan.
He's a St. Louisan.
No, no, no, no.
This is what we're going to do.
We're just going to have to remind him.
Preseason ranked number one.
They didn't make it to the dance.
And was so embarrassed that they didn't go to the NIT either.
There was a lot of baggage and stuff going on.
I said there's a lot of garbage and stuff going on over there.
That sounds like excuses.
We're not weird or a break.
I know.
I want.
I want.
I can only take accountability for myself.
When I cut down the nets.
We're not here this way.
When I cut down the nets.
When I cut down the nets.
I had a lot of accountability for being the last one.
You still got that net?
Huh? You still got that net? Huh?
You still got who?
The net.
No.
What is it?
I sell everything.
Why?
It don't mean nothing to me.
Respect the most is the trade.
Why do you brag about it if it don't mean nothing?
Because it's an accomplishment.
Why do you give and sell your accomplishments?
Because I can.
But then they got the whole other net.
Then that means it didn't mean anything.
The school should keep the net.
No, they don't.
The school should keep the net.
No, they keep the major part.
They get a piece of the net.
So my brother won in 95. They cut the one net down, but then a player on the team, which I remain nameless because I respect him,
had the whole other net he was just rolling around with that nobody even thought about.
Oh, so they use both nets.
One player shares one, the school keeps one?
Yes, yes.
In theory, unless that net gets hijacked, and then you just get a ceremonial custom.
I always wondered, because I've never seen someone like, you know how we see trophies and shit? I've never seen someone like- Oh, I never seen like, you know how we see trophies and shit.
I've never seen someone like...
Oh, I've seen the net.
Oh, you've seen the net?
Around the trophy in the little case outside the state.
For school.
I'm talking about just players.
I've never seen someone like...
The coaches usually get one and then the school usually gets one.
I got the elite A. I got the elite A.
No, I know what I'm saying.
It's like from that...
Yeah, get it off.
I just never seen...
I got the final four one.
I think you got the Final Four one too.
So let's get in our Mosey fans.
Question number one comes from Callman Stewart.
I always got to read these names, make sure they're not doing no chicanery with the names
to make me say some stupid shit.
Who's the best non-NBA player you hooped with or against?
Non-NBA player?
Like they were professional in something else, but they could hoop too.
Oh.
Hmm.
Oh, so like another sport?
Another sport, another vocation. Could be a musician, could be an actor.
Probably Terrell Owens.
Okay. T.L. could hoop?
Yeah. Can jump out the gym.
T.L.
He's still jumping out the gym.
Yeah, for sure. How old old is he, 49 feet?
Four, three, 40s, everything.
Brent, how about yourself?
None, probably say like Chris Brown.
Okay.
Chris Brown been getting buckets lately too.
Yeah, we used to play in the summer a lot.
Julius Peppers.
That ain't fair.
We played him when he was at North Carolina. Oh, that ain't fair.
We played him when he was at North Carolina.
Yeah, yeah.
But he could have hooked if he wanted to.
Wasn't he All-American?
I don't think he was All-American.
He was in high school All-American?
All-conference.
Maybe high school, but in college he was killer.
I got to pick my baby daddy.
Greatest athlete I've ever seen in all sports.
He plays everything and is elite at it all
Or or just be horrible at basketball
Who told whether that's I'm just checking them to get you but no he gives everybody
He gives everybody
baseball softball soccer tennis
MMA UFC's doing all that shit and just dogging it. I got caught. I remember embarrasses dude named Porter
Something Porter. He was receiver for the Raiders. I
Was playing like some charity game
Yeah, oh my god, so I like I got him in the post like he fumbled the ball right
Yeah, I mean got him and he just jumped like he's like he's fumbled and just jumped in this turn in
monkey dunk on me
Like I didn't know what like, you know, I'm gonna be don't I'm with Jason Richardson
So I've seen some crazy stuff so like, I'm not under the rim.
Like, you know, he's still outside the box.
But the ball's down there, and he just, like, bounced.
Like, pushed through.
And then just, boom.
And I said, hey, who's that?
No, no, who's dude right here?
I was like, yo.
Who is that?
Who is that?
It was like he's the receiver for the Wilson.
And I started contemplating like,
I'm in the wrong sport.
I need to start working with him because he got monkey bounce.
Monkey bounce.
Nothing funnier than watching a football player, most football players try to hook the hand-eye
coordination.
They can jump high shit.
They don't know how to land though.
Looking like Hancock.
They'll hurt you too.
They'll hurt you.
That's how boxers play too.
They play the same.
But they come out with the major boost.
Super aggressive too though. Super aggressive. Looking like Hancock. They'll hurt you too.
That's how boxers play too.
They play the same.
But they come out with a major boost.
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What was the biggest Cinderella moment in your sports career?
In my sports career
To be I mean to be honest, this is it for me.
Doing the show?
No, I mean, watching Miami.
Okay.
You said moments that we've had, like playing?
Yeah, like we've had a Cinderella moment.
Man, I would have to say like AAU Nationals 13 and under in Memphis, Tennessee.
Where was that at?
Memphis, Tennessee.
You know, everybody come together, AAU, you know, 12, 13.
And, I mean, we had lost, like, the year before and came back and won it all.
It was just like, that was like one of my biggest, like, hoop moments to where it was like, all right, I arrived.
Like, I'm here now.
I got one, though.
Shit.
Sophomore year.
UConn was number one. And we were not unranked.
Went in there, whooped their ass, hit the game winner.
It was a crazy moment to find me.
Was that the Eurostep that you did over?
Nah.
Nah, nah, nah.
That was upstop.
That was the next year.
Just the year they won the chip the year before.
So just the year UConn won the chip with Okafor
and Ben Gordon and all them.
And we, man, knocked their ass off the number one seed
live on CBS.
Ooh.
The longtime album.
Yeah, we know.
I just think for me, you know,
going to a Division II school,
not really seeing any women that went to a Division II,
like actually make
it.
I was overseas, obviously, but just making it and playing a sport, you know, being able
to take care of myself, provide for myself, playing basketball was Cinderella for me.
For sure.
Yeah.
You make money playing basketball, I can call that a win.
You know what?
What's your secret?
I already know something.
I had to back up.
Getting recruited to Arizona as a red shirt and end up starting and leading the team in scoring the two years I was there.
I didn't realize you led them in scoring your freshman year, too.
Yeah.
You're a legend, yeah.
Yeah, I went from, you know, it's...
Red shirt. No, that is, it's that's... Red shirt.
No, that is, no, that's crazy.
Red shirts are starting at Arizona?
That's hard.
Shit.
How many of your teammates were really, like, they weren't fucking with you?
Because that's some of these minutes you took.
No, no, no.
I'm just saying.
Okay, but you know, when I just, it was one of those things where I just outworked everybody.
So there's one thing that they couldn't do.
Like if our starting was made off of our work ethic, then yes, I should have been a starter.
But because I was in shape, I was training.
I didn't go to class, so I'm not going to give you all the notion.
Smart man.
I was going to class.
No, I didn't go to not one class.
I was in the gym all day long.
I'm red shirt and I got five years in this motherfucker right here.
So I'm just going to eat and just have fun.
And I was in the gym just nonstop.
And then when the season came around and it was time to put in,
I was a whole nother player.
So good. This is not coming from me, they said they don't want to hate, but they said Michael
Wright averaged 15.5 points per game.
Your freshman year, you averaged 15.4.
I have more points.
I think he's set out again.
Okay.
I don't care what that is.
He's set out again.
I have more points.
Okay, more points.
We roll with the more points.
I'm with Jayden Rose. Whoever has the most points. Oh no, Gil. Whoever has the most points. Okay, more points. We roll with the more points. I'm with Jaden Rose.
Whoever has the most points.
I don't know, Gil.
Whoever has the most points.
I don't know, Gil.
I don't know, that's pushing it.
You pushing it. Point what?
You pushing it.
They said he had you by three points as well.
Three points.
Three points on you, G.
They must have waved off a three.
You've been telling people to leave.
They said one three didn't count.
You've been telling people the whole time you can leave. been telling people you believe in me. You've been beating me. One three didn't count. You've been telling people you believe in me.
One three didn't count.
You've been telling people you believe in me.
You've been beating me.
You've been telling people you believe in me.
You've been telling people you believe in me.
One three didn't count.
You've been telling people you believe in me.
One three didn't count.
You've been telling people you believe in me.
One three didn't count.
You've been telling people you believe in me.
One three didn't count.
You've been telling people you believe in me.
One three didn't count.
You've been telling people you believe in me.
One three didn't count.
You've been telling people you believe in me.
One three didn't count.
You've been telling people you believe in me.
One three didn't count. You've been telling people you believe in me. One three didn't count. You've, we appreciate you pulling up. Rashad, we appreciate you making the surprise
pull up on a Tuesday in the
Heat Ransom jerseys. Thank you.
Brandon, we appreciate you as always. Gil, you already
know, keep the lights on. Thank you for providing
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