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Episode Date: June 9, 2026

The San Antonio Spurs HOSTILE Bounce Back IGNITES Gil's Arena as the Gil's Arena Crew react to the San Antonio Spurs taking down the New York Knicks in Game 3 of the NBA Finals to get themselves back in the series and break down how Victor Wembanyama proved he was built for the moment on the NBA's biggest stage as the Alien willed his team to a much needed victory. They also highlight the questionable officiating that caused Knicks head coach Mike Brown to crash out following the game and discuss if Jalen Brunson & The Knicks' shooting struggles to open up the series should be a cause for concern as they need just 2 more wins to clinch an NBA Title. Next, they react to President Trump making history by attending Game 3 and debate if his presence along with the hightened security took away from the usually hostile atmosphere at Madison Square Garden, eliminating the Knicks home court advantage in their biggest home game in over a decade. Finally, they react to LeBron James being named the most influential athlete of the century by TIME Magazine and react to his take on ring chasing as the King held firm on the idea that teaming up with other superstars isn't cheating before breaking down rumors of his upcoming Free Agency, where the Golden State Warriors are quietly emerging as a top suitor, allowing LeBron to team up with other aging legends like Steph Curry & Draymond Green. Today's Gil's Arena Crew : Josiah Johnson, Swaggy P, Kenyon Martin, Brandon Jennings, Skip Bayless & Rashad McCants Gil's Arena premieres every Tuesday, Wednesday & Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. Sign up for Underdog HERE with promo code GIL and play $5 to get $50 in bonus funds or bonus entries ⁠https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gi...⁠ SUBSCRIBE: ⁠   / @thearena0  ⁠ Read Rashad's Blog - ⁠https://rawrashad.com/?blog=y⁠ Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos! ⁠  / discord  ⁠ Must be 18+ (19+ in AL, NE; 19+ in CO for some games; 21+ in AZ & MA) and present in a state where Underdog Fantasy operates. Terms apply. Concerned with your play? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit www.ncpgambling.org; NY: Call the 24/7 HOPEline at 1-877-8-HOPENY or Text HOPENY (467369) 2 Min Countdown ⁠0:00:00⁠ Show Start ⁠0:01:57⁠ Spurs Bounce Back In Game 3 ⁠0:04:18⁠ Wemby Proves He's Ready For The Moment ⁠0:51:47⁠ Mike Brown Crashes Out On Offciating ⁠0:58:54⁠ President Trump Pulls Up To Game 3 ⁠1:15:34⁠ LeBron Named Athlete Of The Century ⁠1:25:51⁠ LeBron's Take On Ring Chasing ⁠1:48:07⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome back to Gills Arena presented by Underdog. Whoop-Wo! How are everybody feeling today? All-Black, somber? You good? Oh, yeah. Okay. It's just one game.

Hey. Outside, you know, we're all-black. Good game, baby. Presidential tent. But this is Gilles A-Rita presented by Underdog. I'm merely a host, Josiah Johnson, representing a tough crowd in a car carrying country club member. We got Mr. B. Brandon Jennings.

Okay. Dressed to impress. We got... One of the biggest legends of the sports media game, Skip Bayliss, back in the building. Representing for Vandy. Feeling dandy? Okay. Feeling dandy.

Got to coordinate. Well, coordination. Appreciate that. On this side of the couch, we got the distinguished gentleman from Oak Cliff, former number one pick, Kenyon Martin. Back in the way. And what's that? Representing the Spurs today, the man they call Cemetery Larry NCAA champion of the world, Dr. Rashah McCants, Ph.D. That's a lot of sound defense.

The whole cheek cold. A lot. Shout out to our production team. Need all my theatrics. We're staying ready. Well, we got a lot to get into. Here's what's cracking in Gills Arena today. Wimby proved he was built for the moment.

Got in the Spurs to a game three win over the Knicks. Is San Antonio still cooked or cooking? Trump became the first sitting president to attend an NBA finals game, but did his presence kill the energy inside and outside of Madison Square Garden? Got booed? Apparently, we have the audio. you be the judge for yourself. And LeBron is set to be a free agent for the first time since 2018.

Should the King take his talent to the bay to team up with the chef? But before we get into all that, as always, this show is brought to you by Underdog. Underdog is available in most states, including Texas, California, and Florida. New customers get $50 in bonus entries when they play just $5. To get started, just use Code Gill when you sign up, and it'll load instantly. Underdog, Make Picks, win money with Code Gill. And if you can't watch this show live with us on YouTube, we got audio versions available on Apple, Spotify, wherever you get your podcast from.

So let's get right to it. Knicks did the unthinkable in the first two games of the NBA finals in San Antonio, stealing game one by overcoming a 14-point deficit in the second half to get a 10-point victory. And holding on to win game two after blowing a 14-point fourth quarter lead, Kat led the Knicks with the second straight double-double finishing with 21 and 13 boards, while Jaylon Brunson and McKell Bridges both put up 20. Winby had 29 points and nine boards, four blocks, and four turnovers. of which ended up costing his squad the game.

Wimmy did have a chance for redemption to even the series, but missed a go-ahead 20-footer in the final moments as the Knicks got their 13th straight win, which is the second longest playoff winning streak in NBA history. New York, the third team in finals history to win the first two games on the road. Previous two, the 93 Bulls and 95 Rockets, both went on to win the chip.

Only five teams in finals history have come back from down 2-0 to win the championship, but no team has lost the first two finals games at home and gone on to win the series. series, Wimby was asked about being down 2 O Sunday had this response. I think the key is acceptance a lot of times. And taking a step back, realizing the all the, you know, the journey that's behind us and what's ahead of us.

And just being okay with who I am, where I am, what I'm doing. I think the end of the day, this is everything that I wish for, so there's no reason to really overthink it. I mean, this is what I'm built for. Well, shout out to Wembe for getting the appropriate lineup for the finals. Game 3 brought much hype in anticipation, with record-breaking ticket prices and Trump becoming the first sitting president to attend an NBA finals game.

But Wimby proved he was built for the moment, delivering his best game of the finals so far to keep the squad in the series. Let's take a look at the highlights if we can't please. So Spurs struck first yet again jumping out to a seven-point lead. San Antonio made nine of their first 11 shot attempts. Wimby had nine points in the quarter with all four of his field goals coming inside of the paint. They were doing their thing, ready to go, in the garden, festive crowd, a lot of celebrities in the

building. San Antonio led by 11 after the first frame. shooting 58% from the field, 57% from distance. Spurs have held double-digit lead in each of the first quarters in this series. But Knicks responded in the second quarter going on a 15-4 run early to cut the deficit to two. Stay within striking distance, O.G. Anobie, Jalen Brunson combined for 21 points in the period. The Knicks captain hitting the three, a little over four minutes remaining. to give his squad.

Their first lead of the game, they bounced back. O.G., corner three has been very successful for the Nix in this series. Nix outscored disperse 4224 in the second frame, into the half with a 10-1 run. Took a seven-point lead into the half, thanks in large part, to play like that. From O.G. Anobey.

Brunson hit in the three-poenauby. Brunson hitting the. three in Wimby's Grill. Second half a little bit different. Julian Champany scored six straight points to open up the third quarter, cut the deficit to one. Both sides traded buckets throughout the period to keep the game close. Spurs went on to take a one-point lead handing to the fourth quarter.

Jalen Brunson led the Knicks with 32 points on 11 of 25 shooting, along with five boards, five dimes and a game high five turnovers. O.G. Annobe added 28 points on 9 to 13 shooting. Josh Hart had 16, nine, and five dimes while Kat had 11 points and eight boards on four of 10 shooting. McHale Bridges' battle foul trouble had his worst game of the series with two points on one of five shooting Jordan Clarkson, 10 points off the bench after getting the DMP in game two. Winby, on the other hand, best game of the finals, 32 points, 11 of 18 shooting at eight boards, six assists, three blocks. Second youngest player with 35 and five in the NBA finals game behind

Magic to find Castle at a 23, five and five. Winby and Castle, first pair of teammates age 22 or younger to each score 20 plus points in the same finals game. This one came down to the wire. First had a seven-point lead. Nix tried to come back, but you saw Deeran Fox hit that clutch bucket. Put San Antonio 5. OG responded with the three, but Stefan Castle got it done at the free throw line. Knocking down a pair of clutch free throws to put the game out of reach. Spurs.

Respond nicely in game three. Make it 2-1 now. Spurs snapped the Knicks. game winning streak, and New York, their first loss in the past 46 days while also snapping a six-game losing streak in Madison Square Garden.

Road team has now won all three games in this series. Here was a reaction from both sides after the game. Do you feel like your team came together tonight in the face of a rock and MSG crowd? Yes. At home, it really feels like playing six against five. And here feels like playing five against six. And I agree with Luke.

It really shows what teams are made of. I think win or lose as a team, our mindset is always getting better the next day. And so we've done our best to try and learn from wins over the past couple weeks. But now we have to learn from loss. But I think the most important thing is that we are going to learn regardless, because we know there were things that improved on, going to have to improve on going into next game. So, my sister stays the same.

It seems as though you may be New York's newest villain. Is that kind of the ultimate compliment? I guess I'm nowhere near Tray Young level, though. Nowhere near Tray Young level. Nix went 7 for 27 from the field in the fourth quarter, missing their first 10 threes in the period, finishing 2 for 14, Brunson O.G. NN.O.B. combined for 18 points on 6 of 11 shooting in the final frame.

Rest of the Knicks went 1 of 16, 0 for 10 from distance. Spurs were not much better. They shot 6 for 14. 21 in the fourth, but we're a perfect 10 for 10 from the line shot 24 free throws in the second half to the Knicks 8th. San Antonio scored 21 points off the Knicks 13 tonovers were plus 14 in points off turnovers. Mr. B, we will start with you. Dress in all black. Biggest takeaways from the Spurs game three win over the Knicks in Madison Square Garden. Biggest takeaways for me, Wimby setting the tone from the jump. His first

his first couple of buckets were in the paint, which were dunks, and that's how you quiet down the crowd. I understand that certain people was at the game, but, you know, at the end of the day, this is a basketball game. This is what you get paid to do. This is the biggest stage. God could have been in there. Just find him a seat and let him watch the game, and, you know, we still got to go out there and play. So I'm not going to use that as a distraction. I think the Knicks played terrible. They went away from what, from the offensive of Kat. They were in, I mean, with nine minutes to go on the fourth quarter, they were already in foul trouble, so you can't win that way. Ever since, you know, I mean, all year with the Spurs, I mean, when their backs against the wall and there's pressure is on, they always show up, and that's what they do best. So shout out to Castle. Shout out to D. Fox for hitting big buckets in the fourth, in the fourth quarter from them.

Some of those they've missed in game one in game two. So this is still a 50-50 series when you look at it. You know, I know they're down 2-1, but they've been put. Their back's been put against the wall all year, and they've proven it. So, you know, the pressure's back on the Knicks right now to try to figure things out. So shout out to those young boys, man. Spurs had not lost three straight games all season. That streak continues with that game three wins.

Kenyon, let's shift over there. You were your biggest takeaway. Spurs coming into Madison Square Garden, all the hype, all the anticipation, leader of the free world in the building, getting the dub over the Knicks. My takeaways are how resilient this young Spurs team came out in game three. Backs against the wall, everything not in their favor, losing the first two games at home. Coming into a difficult environment in Madison Square Guard and a lot of hoopla, a lot of things that, to be's point, that don't have to do with basketball, a lot of distractions that could have to ease it.

crept into a young locker room. Shout out to Ms. Johnson to keeping those guys focus. Brandon's point, Wembe came out and set the tone. Stefan Castle came out and set the tone attacking the rim early. Yeah, and they defended well. They held cat down. So yeah, no, that young Spurs team showed me a lot. A lot of moxie going into that environment with their season pretty much on the line, right?

going down three games to nothing, we know what that leads to. So with their season pretty much on the line to come out and hit the nicks in the mouth, says a lot about their makeup, says a lot about their mentality, says a lot about their coaching and what the rest of this series is going to look like. However long it goes, they're going to fight, they're going to compete, and that goes a long way. Each game, like I said before, the adjustments have to have to. to be made, good, and the things that you did well, you want to look at those things, things

that you didn't do so well, you want to look at those as well. And just continue to go back to the drawing board for the next game. And there's no more important game than the next one, right? I expect them to come out even more focus in game four. But they did what they had to do in game three, man. Shout out to the Spurs. The Knicks, I think, got caught up in all the, everything that was going on. We're going back home.

going to be comfortable. This is a young team. They won't be ready to play. And they prove that false. So the Knicks have to, they haven't lost in a while to Jalen Brunson's point. They've learned things from wins over the last month. So now they get to learn something from a loss. So let's see what they learned. But that young, resilient Spurge team showed me a lot. So Nick, 13 straight wins into this game hadn't lost in 45 days heading into this matchup. finally took the L. Well, let's shift over to you, Skip. Your former team, the San Antonio Spurs,

tricked off two games at home, wimby jumper away from potentially going one, one back to Madison Square Garden. That did not happen. What do you think about the Spurs waltzing into Madison Square Garden, getting the dub over the Knicks? I'm anxious to hear what the newbie Spurs fan

has to say across from me. Larry. Yeah. Cemetery over there. We play. He's having a day today. But I still got the Knicks in six. I still got the Knicks winning game four.

And yet, I'm going to give Cemetery this. And I think we've all been calling for this. I actually saw Victor Wimbunyama last night play to seven foot six inches tall. He actually woke up and realized, wait, I'm seven, six. Maybe I should play center for one night. And he did. And I was impressed, as these gentlemen pointed out beautifully, from jump, he decided he was going to play in this thing called paint.

And he did. And he made eight buckets in the restricted area. And I was impressed because, you know what? Nobody can stop him in the restricted area. If he gets two hands or one hand on the basketball, it is going down easily because he can dunk flat-footed. So he did that. He took six threes instead of nine or 12-3s,

and he made a couple of them, and they were impressive, and he made one nice jump shot from about 22 feet of mid-range. But eight other buckets in the paint, which also allowed him to get to the free-throw line and make more free throws than anybody else in the game made, eight out of nine. He is an extraordinarily good seven-foot-six-inch free-throw. shooter. Now to the Knicks. So I do have a lot of friends who are Knicks fans, starting with

Stephen A. Smith. Keep close touch with all of the above. My wife born and raised in New York City, lifelong Knicks fan. And all I heard from everybody I know Knicks related over the last 48 hours was this. That's all my wife did for 48 hours. Every time I saw her in the house, she's giving me this. Damn. We got this. Every time. Every time. But not actually clean. But not actually clean. But not actually clean. It was the first time she actually cleaned.

No, that's not true. She doesn't. I know. All right. Yeah. But I do believe that building, and you two played in that building, know it well. But I believe it was the most electric. It has ever been in its lengthy history at tip off last night.

And I believe the pressure and expectation. that all those celebrities and those two ringmasters sitting front and center, Eli and Derek Jeter, exerted on the home team, was suffocating because the home team has never felt that kind of pressure in that building at a moment like that. And it came out, and it was immediately turned into a bunch of basketball basket cases to me, because if you look back at those first three possessions,

Jaylen Brunson comes down and misses badly. He's been missing way too many shots. I'll get to that in one second. But then here comes McHale Bridges, and he just throws it in the third row. I don't know who he's throwing it to, but you can't do that. The pressure and expectation wasn't just for the Knicks

to win game three. It was for the Knicks to sweep the San Antonio Spurs and the alien. It was their time, their moment, and here we go, and there's no way the Knicks were going to be able to live up to that crowd at that moment.

Next possession, third possession, they come down and Josh Hart just throws it away and I'm like, what are you guys doing, man? What are you doing? You've got to have some poise. You've got to live up to what the crowd, they're trying to will you, and instead they're suffocating you.

And the New York Knicks immediately took the greatest crowd they've ever had in that building right out of the game. And I start looking up at the scores early on. What do we go? I wrote down all these scores. All of a sudden it's

14 to 5 and 19 to 9 and 33 to 21. And I'm saying, come on, stop it. And they write the ship in the second quarter and they shake it off and I say, who are we? We got to do this. And they blow the spurs off the floor in the second quarter and it's 42 to 24.

Did you say, Who are we? Yeah. Okay. Who are we? Okay. We're this team. And then halftime happened.

And if they could have just kept playing or stopped playing at that point, they would have been just fine. But no, they had to go sit down at halftime and think, damn, wait, we have to go do this again and again. We got two more quarters. We had to do that again and again. And to Brandon's point, they played sorry basketball. The whole second half were just sorry to me. It was like unwatchable. And then the fourth quarter comes.

And by the way, in the third quarter, the spurs immediately go on a run, a 22 to 12 run. And Wimby hit a 30-foot-3. And that was it. That was a ball game because they never led after that, the home team. And in the fourth quarter, they missed their first 10, three-point shots. You're going to lose. I mean, you just, come on, man. There's seven of 27 in the fourth quarter, and I know they hit the two.

late desperations and it made it look a little better than it was, but it's terrible. Man, when it mattered, Stefan Castle just stepped up and that three made, that was the dagger to me and he's, he's been 30, you know, he shot 33%

during the regular season from three. So he's, he's not a very good three-point shooter. They dared him to shoot. They dared him and he made it. Josh Hott was making that shit too. He was. He had a good night for him. And yet, Stefan Castle not only ripped that one, But he stepped up to the free throw line like a man.

And those were as clean as you can make two free throws. There's no rattling around. They were rip, rip, and just ripped the heart right out of that crowd. So in the end, I still believe in the Knicks. Congratulations to you for the day and the night. Appreciate it. You played harder. You played smarter.

And you played more great desperate in that game. That's what you did. great desperate. So enjoy your day. I appreciate it, man. Um, Oscar speech. Yeah, it's a glorious day. Um, I guess I want to just start with how both teams came in. Um, and we can say it looked kind of sloppy. The game kind of looked like it was going to be a sloppy game. Game three, very desperate game for both sides because You know, as I alluded to before was going down 2O. It's important for the Knicks to get the third game.

They can't afford to allow them to come back, get any momentum. And the way you lose a game three to tell if it's going to be a game seven or not is based on you coming in and dominating the game, majority of the game. And I think that the Knicks hung in there. First half was good, but I think once the Spurs got the lead, they start in the show that they can play with the lead. And that's important for a team like this. And I like the fact that they could go out there and protect the lead on the road

and understand that the ref's not going to take them out of the game. And Victor showed poise. I think Deerrin Fox stepped up and did exactly what he needed to do at the end of the game. He was supposed to go in and close him. And I think the duration of the game holding cat under control not allowing him to be the passer and the facilitator that gets them going, allowing you. Jaylen Brunson to do his thing, but still keep him under control without fouling. OG stepped up big, but I feel like when OG steps up big, you know who shrinks?

McKell Bridges. Two points? He shrinks. When OG has a good game, he seems to not be the one that steps up to take them over the top. And for me personally, I think that the Spurs losing game two by one point, the way they lost it, shows that they should be up to one right now with an opportunity to take another one in the next game

because I don't see New York being the dominant team between the two. I think it's them coming in and still in this game shows it's like, all right, we can go do this again. They didn't show us that we couldn't take this game from them. And you could say that New York played bad, but I always say it's a gamer runs and a game of adjustments. So if you're not adjusting in real time,

it's like, all right, Mike Brown, you're going to pay for this non-adjustment. So the guys that came in he adjusted with didn't really play well. But I think the Spurs got a little bit of momentum right now as far as understanding what to do next. So was that a steal or a win?

Who's a win? I think so? I think it was a steal. I don't think it was a steel. They all played them. I don't, I think game two in San Antonio, the Knicks stole that. They stole that one. The Spurs won that. The Spurs

won, yeah, but I'm saying it They stole them. The Knicks, I mean, the Spurs, when they won that game. They outplayed them. They hit them in their mouth. They forced, just the way they defended Kat, right? So Katz, you can't allow Devin Fasel to guard you.

They went small on you. And to push you off your spot consistently and make you catch the ball in areas where you got to dribble against them small guys. Instead of turning and go. Right. They forced the old style of Knicks. to rear their ugly head where Jalen Brunson has to do it all. They made him bring it up. They made him take.

I don't know how many dribbles he actually had in that game yesterday. It has to be. He didn't pass it. Yeah, it has to be over 250 family, 300 dribbles. It has to be. They forced that way, they forced them to play that way. And we all know the way that looks for the Knicks. That has been their demise as of late.

When Jayland has to do all of that. Let's see what Mike Brown does And it's on cat too Like you said you can't allow those smalls to guard you But let's see what adjustments Mike Brown makes May I say to your point Carl Anthony Towns had one assist last night

Remember the narrative Offence is going to run through We figured it out now it's going to run through him Really? Still can't with the way they're defending him He conceded They went back to the ISIL That old next time

No it was on cat No, no, it was on cat. It was on cat. It was on them. They were running plays and tried to get him matches. He didn't want to shoot. No, no, but they're trying to get him a catch. And where they're pushing him off his spot where they can't run their play that they're calling.

They can't run their play because he's letting them dudes be aggressive with him and him not hold his ground and looking at the refs trying to get the little file. Get them little dudes off of you, right? He was ready. If you got to take one, take one. But to make it obvious, how they're trying to play him. I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, they really should be up three oh, if we're being honest with the spurs. I mean, if we go back to game one, they're down by one with two minutes to go. Game two, they lose at a 10 second shot, 10 seconds left.

Game three, I mean, 30 seconds to go is a three-point game. So, I mean, if we're really looking at it, that's why I said it's a 50-50 because they literally couldn't be up 3-1. I mean, they're down to one and they still have the momentum more than anything. Like, you would think it's the other way around. but after that game last night, it just really showed like, game one and game two is kind of look like a little. It's going to be tough to win game for it. No, it's not.

For Hulisburs? It is easier now. It can happen. I'm saying it's impossible. It's going to be really tough. I really expect, I think the Knicks, to Skip's point, I think the pressure of that game in that building because they haven't had a finals game since 99 there,

I think they succumbed to that pressure. I think they got that out the way. I believe they will play much better as a team in game four. That's not saying they're going to win, but it's going to be a much different look for them in game four, I believe. It's supposed to play well. You're showing me this, though. What you just said is that they show what they do with pressure at its highest. Yeah, I think that they shrunk.

Yeah, I think just all the bullshit. So think about us on this side and the biggest moment for you to close. This is not a close-out game, but damn near. Yes, it is. It's a deflating punch-gette. It is. Man. We know a game-out game.

So think about this. That pressure you shrink. Why would we feel any kind of anxiety going, coming back in here again? Knowing you gave this to us, well, I'm going to say because you said we won it. They won it. But think about that. If y'all had to steal two in San Antonio for us to be talking about not being 3-0 right now, you had to steal them.

And like you said, we'll give away one, but game two was stolen based on Winby. Still could have put that shit away. Still could have did his thing. Still had a chance to win. Still had a chance to win. And I think Winby had a terrible first game, but the jitters of being there and all the emotions from prior to needed to settle in. But that first one was still iffy.

So now we're like, okay, going into game four. As a team, if I'm San Antonio, I'm not looking like we can't go do that. this and take this back and let's extend this series so we can feel comfortable with the balanced playing field. And I think that's a lot better knowing, like you said, it ain't going to be easy. It's going to be tough to get this

sport for it. Very, very tough. But what have we seen this series that make us as Hoopers say it's going to be hard for you to adjust to what they've doing out there? We've seen two different adjustments. You're just getting your shit right now. And I don't think New York

played bad more than the Navy adjusted to putting a smaller on cat and saying, listen, we're going to make him and then let him roam on the back line. And we got the black. Which was helpful. I mean, it was a judge. It took him off. It took him off. It was smart. A smart coach was going to kill him. Yeah, so, but like I said,

if they do that Carl Anthony Towns, you can't allow small to guard you. Like, you got to duck in hard, you got to force. You got to run him over one time. Like, I'm just thinking of like, when they try to put that small on, you have to

but to the Spurs credit right they went on the road in the last series and the tough environment right and got games they did and when people didn't give them a chance in that environment so they battle tested they're ready for the moment I believe

but it's just like that I do believe that the moment was the them young Spurs they just didn't know no better in game three we feel listen we know we're down to and we're going to

them with all going on the president there Jay Z they didn't care right and they went out and displayed it I think that moment got to the Knicks right just to skip that pressure of that so that's a big question mark then

because I mean because I just think it's just I mean so what's going to happen in game five I mean the press of me and who would step up I'm thinking it's just that one game they hadn't lost in it's to win 13 straight games

in the playoffs April 23rd was the last law is listen up. More teams would do it if it was easy, right? There's been some dominant teams even they've lost in the playoffs, right? They were bound to lose. It just so happened, this moment and everything that was going on at that particular time yesterday. It all came together. Yeah, I can't do that. I think it was a great recipe. I can't. I think it was, but the Spurs took the, but I'm saying, I'm not taking anything away from what the Spurs is. Because it's New York. I can't roll with it because it's New York. But they didn't. And we used to New York. It ain't been rocking like this before, but it's always rocking.

It's New York. I mean, it's Brunson. So what's going to happen in Game 5? Man, who's going to show it? Like, what's going to happen in Game 6 or game 6? But was it the real new? Back in San Antonio. But Game 4.

Was this the real New York, though? You're talking about ticket prices, $4 or $5 grand to get in the door? No. We say the real New York, we're just saying, I'm just saying it felt like the more elite. The more elite pushed out the real New York. Yeah. They're trying to take the moment. So you got a hungry team coming there that's down two games, right?

Knowing they need a win, all the bullshit that's going in and a really good Spurs team, right? They're in the finals for a reason. All that, what them do is playing, the Spurs playing the way they are, and all the bullshit going on. They got punched in the mouth. The Knicks got punched in the mouth. It was a lot going on in the building. Rhythm throwing off, security shit. It was just...

Yep. And like I said, the Spurs did what they wanted to do in that game. They came out and played aggressive from the tip, right? And they earned that win. They went in there and they fucking hit the Knicks in their mouth. They did. I'm not taking anything off their plate, but the Knicks succumbed to everything with the Spurs had going on on the floor.

It's just a recipe for them to get our play. Scouting report, right? Silence the noise. Yeah. Just like respond to the run. When they make the run, you need to respond. Drown out the noise. You can't drown out the noise.

You're going to get, you're going to get sucked up into all that energy that's whirling in there with all the celebrities and they're talking to you and all that. But I look at executing a scouting report from a different perspective would be understanding that they are not bigger than the moment either. They're not bigger than this moment. Jalen Brunson is not bigger than this moment.

He could miss that shot. It's all primed and set for everyone to succeed in this high-pressure moment. Yet the young team that Ms. Johnson had them understand that executing the game plan is most important than anything. Then freestyle, pushing it ahead, Fox and y'all just go quick shot. Calm down. This is time where we now need to prove that we can be here in the moment and thrive in it. And take care of the basketball. The Aaron Fox.

Did. Give him the ball. Let him do his thing. Crunch time. Right? Big time shots. But this is the same type of shot Jalen Brunson hit the game before when he closed it out. So you look at them putting it in Fox's hands. It's good for the San Antonio Spurs. But my thing is Mike Brown, understanding what to do in those defensive moments, those matchup moments. And she ain't his best defender on it. I'm just talking about offensively. You guys got to get the ball back. you got a score and you're going to play hero ball to get the three or are you going to play a lot of rush rest three yeah a lot of bad possession you got lander shaman going like one for seven one for eight for three guys that traditionally not go shots down foul trouble when they was in foul trouble in nine man no yeah that that that's that that's a deal that's that they're that's right yeah let's talk that that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's right right me and b was in the woods was like they was in the penalty with them in nine

minutes to go in the quarter man like that was fourth quarter that was that was that's a and you used all your um but they were successful though The challenges. But you used them all. He needed them. So after that, you could have used them down the line on certain files and the certain players. The win me four point player, I guess, taken away. I mean, it was.

Yeah, the challenges they used he needed, they were successful. Use them in the fourth quarter. Both of them were successful. But them not being able to play defense fully because they're in foul trouble. They definitely hampered them. And still was a very winnable game. They were down three. Right?

Yeah. Fight. 111, 111, they were still, they had a chance, but with all that going on. But yeah, it's, we have a series now. So let me say this about Jalen Brunson. He obviously has a huge heart, great player, great guts. He came close last night in the fourth quarter to willing that team across the finish line. But to your point, he's getting worse and worse.

worse at dribbling the air out of the basketball against the spurs, not in the previous rounds, because he did manage in the previous rounds, even during the regular season, to keep his shot attempts down to where they could play winning five-man offense basketball. And he's averaging 40% usage rate in these first three games. It's way too high because it's just this. just dribbling, dribbling, dribbling until it's just hard to watch because Stefan Castle is hard to get by. He is really, really difficult. He was hard on SGA in the previous.

He just, he wears you down and finally wears you out mentally and physically over 48 minutes because you're having a hard time just getting it across half court against him. So then you say, I'll still, I'll figure it out, I'll do this, I'll do, they come picking. He's still dribbling, dribbling, dribbling, dribbling. And then he's going to shoot it. Yeah. And look at, here's what Jalen Brunson during the regular season averaged making nine out of 20 shots. That was his whole regular season, nine out of 20.

Then against Atlanta, he made 10 of 21. About the same ballpark. Philly, 10 of 20 was his average of makes and attempts, 10 of 20, and then against Cleveland, 10 of 20. So he stayed right on par. Guess what he is through three games? He's 10 of 27 attempts a game. So it's gone completely. He's missing 17 shots a game.

37% from the film. It's a lot of shots, man. If you're going to miss 17 a game, you remember you didn't do that even in high school. You're not going to take that many, but you're going to make closer to 50% of your shots. And it's killing their flow. They don't have much flow.

And McKell Bridges, they actually, weirdly, go as he goes. And if you look at his numbers in their wins in the postseason, he's 16, 4, and 8. I'm sorry, 4 and 3. And then in the losses, he's 4, 2, and 2. So if he doesn't contribute,

they have a hard time. And last night, he wasn't part of the offense because Jalen Brunson is doing this and then he just disappears. I'm trying to figure out which one is better with him off the floor or with him on the floor. Bridges? Brunson. Oh, Brunson's off the floor.

Katz playing. The primary guy. He's the primary guy. They do have a lot more fluidity. Well, they have surges with Alvarado last night. They have surges. But they start the game with Kat. But they don't have that

down six seconds coming down on the shot clock. I need to get my shot from a player that's going to give us a good shot. But it's hard to tell. They're taking it out of Kat. Like he said, wasn't it got the ball so much. Remember, they were winning.

Cat was averaging six, seven assists. He was. Start the offense with him. Let everybody get some touch. But it's hard for a great player, and he is a great player. The mentality is, I'm going to do this for New York. I got this because I'm the driving force of this team literally. And it's hard for him to sit back and say, I got to do less on offense, right?

I got to get rid of the ball quicker on offense, and it'll still come back to me enough that I can get my shots and my points. But it's hard, you know, it's almost like the old Jordan thing. with the, you've got to get the other four somewhat involved or you can't beat a good team. Well, that's why the triangle game. Yeah, that's right. The triangle.

And it's a part of being a good player is knowing when to get the other guys involved and when to break the offense. So if your cat, Brunson's out, the one thing we know is San Antonio is they got one outlet. So if we compress Carl Anthony Towns for this outlet, they're forced to go to OG. They're forced to go to McBride and sham. to be primary shot makers and shot takers.

So when Brunson's out and I'm watching, I'm just like, man, they look like they're struggling, but they're not. They actually execute, get a shot off, but it's not the high efficiency, high percentage shot that Brunson takes, where he knows he gets his spot. So they look kind of off-kiltered when he's off the floor.

Then you take Cat off the floor. You put Mitchell Robinson in. Now you've got more of a defensive dominant. It's McBride, Shammin, maybe Clarkson, OG and Mitchell Robinson. Now, that's just, that's not a lot of offense on the floor. No.

So if you got Wemby on the floor with that lineup, we benefit because you're not going to come down and kill us offensively. But if we switch that up and we bring in Castle, Vassell, Johnson, and Harper, and then you bring in Brunson and Kat. Now it's a whole different game, but we still up. Our athleticism, our youth, all of those things contribute to us. That's why I don't think New York is going to be. going to give much of a pushback on this next game because they figured out that this is all

you guys got. You guys stole two at our home based on us not being ready for the moment. And now that we know what the moment is, we get back to basics. I think they back to basics at this point. I think they're just calm now. I'm just going in game four just like what's name? They said, Wimby with the moment. I'm chilling just like that now at this point.

Because we saw how big it can get. It can't get no bigger than this. I don't care who y'all bring it here now. So if it's going to get this big and that, so now it don't even matter who you bring it here now. But I don't think that matters to the Spurs at all. Like that didn't register on their radar on who was going to be there

and what was going to be happening. They knew they needed a game. They knew how they needed to go in there and play. They willed that game. They went there and hit, like I said, hit the Knicks in the mouth. So I don't think that's even... No, I'm talking about for the Knicks.

For the Knicks it is. I mean, for the... They're going to matter in game for. You're getting your real crowd back. like the real crowd. Yeah, all the bullshed over. It was a lot. You think so?

Yeah, all the bullshit over. Oh, they? It's most celebrities in line and didn't even get to get in that game. Security remitter about Madison. They just ain't got to wait as long. That's all. You got the real fans getting pushed to Central Park getting pushed to Brooklyn. Y'all can't even be over here right now.

That's crazy. You can't bring a bag up in here. The pressure is. You see the streets leading up to, like, come on, right before the game, the streets was dead leading up to, They're locked down. Yeah, locked down. People couldn't get in certain vicinity of the arena.

The Knicks have to win game for it, though. It's too much. Both teams. It's a must win for both teams. It's a most win for sure. I mean, yeah, no, it's a, you can't go down 3-1. You can't go down 3-1 if you're the Spurs, and the Knicks, you can't allow them to come in on your home floor and get both games. But it's not a panic for the Knicks's own thing.

I think it goes back to, all right, now we both can recalibrate. Yeah, if it's two-two. Going back to San Antonio, then not the worst thing, but. They don't want that. No. Trust me. You don't want to get that team momentum going back home for game three and being able to possibility go down three, two.

Like, yeah, so it's a must. I feel it's a must win for both teams. Game 7 in San Antonio. Yeah, it's a must win. It's a must win for both teams. Still a young squad, but Skip, back to if you were saying about Brunson, shooting 37% from the field in the series, but really, I think it's a first three quarters issue

because in the fourth quarter, average 11 points per game, 48, 48, 58, 5 splits. You know, too much the first three. But, you know what I think, but now you run the wrist, Now, if I don't deliver in the fourth... What's the fourth? What's the fourth percentage? 48 from the field, 40 from three, and then 86 from the free-throw line.

48, okay. 48, 48, 86. I would rather that be 50. Because it's the fourth quarter, it needs to be higher than... Yeah, but those first three... 48 from three? No, 48 from the field. No, 40 from the field.

Oh, 40 from three. Yeah. Shit, that's for him, that's great. No, just for it being in the fourth quarter, like the... All four? I need, because that efficiency for the fourth quarter and you're taking all the shots, it's got to be, you got to give us 55, 60 percent because we're depending on you to get all the shots. I hear you, but that's a tall ax for a jump shooter. I mean, that's a tall ax for six one jump shooter.

That's a tall. And he hit the one three in the fourth. But him and Oji holding it down. Second quarter, I think 21 points combined fourth quarter at what, 18 combined six of 11 shooting the rest of the team. One of 16? There's OG and Jalen showed him. O'Frey 10 from three. I'm just saying like...

McHale Bridge has gotten to foul trouble early. He had two quick files. He messed up his rhythm. He never got the chance to get in the rhythm. Jordan Clarkson came off the bench and played well for them. McBride didn't give him anything. That bad-ass shot he took on the wing. Like, I was talking, getting him the hell out of the game, man.

Like, that was three possessions in a row. He took one. Jaylon Brown took one. Cat took a 37-footer from the left wing. What are we supposed to be looking for? Avarado. Energy. He took the bad one.

Harder in New York. It was Avarado McBride and Cat. Three possessions in a row and they got some good out of the third because it was offensive rebound. Yeah, I remember that. Got the offensive rebound and he put it back in, but it was bad possessions in a row. But energy. Are they playing too many guys?

I feel like the Knicks are playing too many guys. Yes. But he had to the other day. He needs a solid eight. He needed a solid eight for sure. He need a solid eight. Ten guys. He got a fair because throwing Jordan out there whenever you think he's going to cut it on.

He impeding. You can't do it. I mean, because he's good enough to go out there and give you what he's going to give you. I think it's either Jordan or McBride. I don't, it's because you know Larry Sherman weren't making shots. Yeah, you got to make a decision with them too. So, Larry wasn't making shots. So then you got to try Jordan.

I think that's why Jordan got as much burn as he did yesterday because Larry Shaman wasn't making shots. McBride wouldn't give you nothing. McBride wouldn't give you nothing. McBride's a role need to be more defined. Like, you need to be picking up. full court, 94 feet, being a pest. You get an open look, take it. But I don't need you, I're forcing three.

Trying to play. Yeah, I don't need to. He can play. I think they got him off the leash. But you need to, like. They got him off the leash. Because he can't play when he does play real young fellow. It's kind of like Peyton Pritchard a little bit.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because he can get it going and he can shoot you out of. Yeah, right. He can shoot you out of both ways. So. But I don't think, go ahead. No, I'm saying. I'm just, I'm just thinking Mitchell,

What is he? I understand you got to give Cat a blow. He gets off as the rebounds. He puts pressure on. Yeah, he does. Fow pressure on him. Do you need to play him and him and Kat together a little bit, right? Switch some shit up so he can.

That has to then be aggressive offensively. He has to at least shoot the ball. Yes. Because he's not even going to target practice. He's not even shooting the ball on the turn. He's not. catching and trying to be triple threat. Another 0 for two from three.

Yeah, and he shoots it. He wants to make sure it goes in before he can start filling and going. Yeah. And that's the bad thing about him. He's too good to not just get the ball on the post and just try to get a foul. Then that's another thing too. Like, it made some aggressive plays at the rim. He's barking on people.

Like, we need more of that. Like, the fans, like, your team, not the, now we, your team need more of that from you. That energy that you displayed on a couple and one that you thought you had, they didn't call the file, you're screaming at the dudes. Like, your team need that energy from you more. And if you do that, then you want the ball more. You're going to do what it takes to get the ball. So exert yourself even more in that end. We know what you have to do and try to compete defensive with Winby and if you got a small other.

We understand that. But your team needs you to be aggressive offensive and have a chance to win this serious. So we have talked and talked and talked about how great your spurs were last night, but there were two, I'll call them, minor positive developments for the Knicks in the fourth quarter, I thought. Wimby was really good until the five-minute mark in the fourth quarter, and he had two free throws that put them up eight, 108 to 100, and then he didn't score down the last five minutes of the game.

So that's a plus for the Knicks. They didn't let him just wipe them out down the stretch. And so they hung in the game because Dylan Harper, I know we've talked a lot about Dylan Harper, Mitch played him 11 minutes of the fourth quarter, and he went 0 for 5. And he missed two big shots that could have just been daggers down the stretch in the last two minutes.

He took two threes and missed both of them that allowed the Knicks a little bit of life. So 0 for 5, he played to his age in the fourth quarter. but he also, in the first three quarters, he made two or three shots at the rim where you're just like, God, that's gift, man. That's like, wow.

Harper, five of 18 in the game. Five of 18. Same amount of attempts as Wimby in that game. Yeah. He was aggressive, man. He's going to be aggressive. Good with the bad. No conscience.

You're going to play well one game, but you're going to get an effort. You're learning. Listen, there's no better and on-the-job training. I'm saying that you're on the biggest stage. Got to take it. I'm looking at, I'm just looking at him from optics. Like, he is really good.

And there's no reason not to have him in the game, even O for five. You've got to look at how that O for five looked. It was energetic, it was aggressive to the rim. No fear. Right. And then two threes that he's missed, like he still, I consider him a dependable three-point shooter. With the ability to miss, not because he's young, it's because he's still trying to get that energy going to be consistent.

But he hits a big shot just like Castle hit a big shot to close out and we know he's not that great of a three-point shooter But to have that kind of confidence So you took it man man Mr. Big shot man you got to go and take the moment So I think having he played Fox Harper Castle Vassil and Wimby on the floor and they were scrambling and it looked at that moment for me I was like all right I don't know how I feel about Fox in there because you know he's But Brunson's hunting out who the weakest defender is. And I'm saying in the moment also like, no, because he's smart enough to get in the gaps and play good defense when it comes down. Well, you loved him at 12 seconds left, didn't you?

You had to. My gosh. That was big time. Get down. But Dylan will be all right. I think Dylan will be all right. You need him in those moments because he made things happen. He's an athletic.

See that dunk he had was just crazy for a six six point guard to do that kind of. That's Westler's respect. Derek Rose type shit. So I love the fact that he's available down the stretch, giving more confidence. Him and guys like Carter Bryant, those guys got too much ability not to have confidence to be the end down the stretch

and affect the game. Because Kelton Johnson is going to be there, but you keep throwing him. Finally, but he's still 17 minutes. I know he won't be in there in the mud with him. So it's like trying to figure out when he's going to play good. You got about eight, nine guys, so you got to figure it out. Let's talk about the main guy.

on San Antonio. Wimby took a lot of heat for the Spurs game two loss. Obviously had those miscues late in the game responded with the best game in the series. He's averaging 29 points, 10 rebounds,

three assists, three blocks, nearly two steals per game in the series. But what did Wemby show you in game three? He was ready for the moment. The moment wasn't too big for him. He understood the the magnitude of this game.

Team can't go down in three games. Three-o. And he came out and wheeled his team to a win, man. He showed a lot. He grew up. He grew up a lot from the... He took ownership from the turnover in game two. So he messed up.

So for you to take ownership in that and to be able not let that affect you in the next game at such a young age, says a lot about his mental makeup and he came out and displayed in the game three I'm just glad we got that over with it's gonna be a lot of shit talking in here

and we went down 3-0 I was already preparing my habituary and the whole nine yeah they was gonna be ready to bury me and then it's in the push let me send this in early so y'all know I'm okay with it but

we bounce back goddamn we we we Shit, we bounce back. I know, we're resilient, man, Wimby. Hey, one thing I always said, whether it's me cheering for the Spurs or the Nix, Wembe's always been my guy. He could play on whatever team, New Orleans, and don't matter. Green Bay Packers, I'm Wemby.

Wimby on the Packers? I'm Wemby. Lock and field goals. All kicking field goals got down. But, shit, I mean, Wimby's been doing everything that we see his potential can provide for us. we're watching good basketball. That's really what I'll really care about. It's watching good hoop.

And you look at how Wimby's been preparing for these moments. It's like we set such a precedent for a guy that there's much potential that when he doesn't perform to our likes, that we got to criticize it. And that's with everybody. I think we did. We've done it with Brian.

We've done it with Kobe. We've done it with everybody down the line. If you don't perform to the heights of what we have as far as your expectations, we're going to criticize you. So after game one, we expect the criticism. Game two, you fucked up.

It's your fault, and he took the blame. So we accept that criticism. Game three, I can't afford that again. So knowing that you've got to show up and not just show that you're ready for the moment, but show you can still provide for your teammates and still get them involved. And I think that was good for him.

But this next game is going to have to be another. Repeat. like it's got to be 35 40 you got to go in there with confidence you can't defer and if it's not one of those 40 games is one of those 22 25 14 5 blocks where everyone's eaten and we can win as a team but

it's always team windy man we we we look I still think this still very young man looks in the mirror and he sees a two guard that's who he wants to be and that's what he enjoys doing. He gets way more pleasure out of making a three than dunking.

And yet, Kenyon says a lot, you know, he's just too light to post up regularly. He's just too slender, but he is seven feet six inches tall. And you see the devastation that he causes when he gets a hand on the basketball in the restricted area. It's over, man. there's nobody Mitchell Robinson Cat at his greatest they just can't deal with it

it's too long and it's too tall and he does play with some physicality when he decides to to me I see some I get the slender and the light and the behind and all that but last night early on I don't know who lit his fire

if Mitch can get to him if Bionbo one of those guys gets to him and says, just to start the game, try to be a presence whenever you can, try to get your little behind down low where you can at least be in position to dominate

and to devastate them psychologically. Because, again, eight buckets in the restricted area is way beyond what he usually does. So that was impressive to me that even though I don't think he gets great pleasure out of it, His teammates do. His coaching staff does. His management does because they know that that's the Wimby nobody can stop.

Is that guy? He's a 35% career three-point shooter. And it'll probably revert to the mean of that over time where I don't know if it'll get way better than that. Will he ever be a 40% three-point shooter? Because if he is, then that's over. That's the adjustment we all need to make when it comes to Wemby. is okay the traditional big that you want everyone's begging for him to be and it's out watch out that shit that's over with shack Charles get him down low no more down low

no more he's shooting threes he's going to be a 40% three point shooter he's going to have to learn and get his two dribble pull-up game going because all that going back to the basket he's not he's not built he's not he doesn't have the build for that and to force it on him But if he does get down there and get a hold of the ball, nobody can stop it. He just has to do it the way Janus does it. Yeah. That's going to be the new metric of the big man, seven foot. You got to do it like Janus now.

So it was funny. The play of the game is Cat does go out high and get in his face. And Wimby says, I'm still going to shoot this three. And he goes up to shoot it. And Cat is going to block it. He's going to block the 7.6 guy. And the last second before his feet comes down, He has no choice, but just to kick it sideways to, oh, Stefan Castle,

who's unguarded at this moment because they're daring him to shoot. And he says, oh, I'm not even going to hesitate. Somebody got to shoot it. Somebody got to shoot that. Go ahead and put it up. Kat played a good defense on Wemby when it came to that. He did. On the perimeter stuff, he played pretty well.

And Kat had three steals last night, so he was doing something on defense, you know. It's a cat mouse game at this point. Yeah, cat and mouse. It's a cow-mouse game. Let's talk about another side of this game. Free throw disparity in this game and series has been the subject of discussion. San Antonio shot 24 free throws in the second half of game three. We're in the bonus, like y'all mentioned, the last nine minutes of the fourth quarter.

Meanwhile, the Knicks got to the line eight times in the second half, attempted 10 less free throws in the game. So Mike Brown offered these thoughts on the officiating after the Knicks lost. Now, we didn't play good. San Antonio played great. We could have played better. There were a lot of things that we didn't do that we've done, that we did in game one and game two. But to go 24 free throw attempts in a second half,

that's 48 for the game if you think about it the way that they called that second half, compared to eight. All the shots we took, we got fouled four times roughly for eight free throw attempts. again I don't complain much I never thought I'd see that in an NBA finals game who let the dogs out

who let some dolls in so Spurs have shot more free throws than the nicks in each of the first three games in the series plus 23 for the series so can't we start with you with Mike Brown calling out the officiating in game 3 24 yeah second half free throw attempts Yeah, absolutely. And he says something else in that statement as well.

Yeah, we're filing, but they're filing too, right? So that's a fair assessment, right? I can't be, I can't be mad at. No, I can't be mad at, no. Say you're fouling and they fouling to give me the whistle. Yeah, no, I get his point where he's like, you know, he's frustrated. Your guy is in a rim attacker. Jailen Brunton attacks the rim like Northern Port Garden is in NBA.

Some of the possessions, the Carl Anthony Towns trying to post up, some of it, yeah, I ain't saying you should call it all of it because he needs to play through it. I agree. But just some of it said, like you have to try that hard to get him from catching the ball. All of it ain't legal, is what I'm saying. I ain't saying you gotta call them all because we'll be sitting there just be a few, but some of them just, but I understand Mike Brown's point, but to his point as well, he understands the team being played well.

So with all that said, yeah, 24. to eight is in a finals game and New York is an aggressive basketball team. So like we all know, you ain't going to call them all, but I understand his gripe and complaint. He has to protect his guys. So yeah, Mike Brown is speaking up for his team. So, yeah, I get where he's coming from. But the points that he made, I think were valid and him being honest in the assessment and understand that his team didn't play well.

but both teams are trying out there. So let's just... We don't want to feel like we're being cheated. So Mr. B., do you agree with Mike Brown calling out the officiating in that game? No. We had a problem with it when we was up 2-0. We fought through all that.

This is the NBA finals. You guys played terrible. That's what it was. You guys played terrible. You guys were in the bonus with nine minutes to go in the fourth quarter. You guys couldn't play aggressive. They don't deserve a whistle, OB.

Like, no matter how you're playing, listen, no matter how you're playing, you can be playing great or terrible. If it's a foul, it's a foul. It don't matter. So they don't deserve a whistle because they're playing bad? I mean, you still had a chance to win. As much as we want to complain about the calls, we're down three with 30 seconds to go. So, I mean, we wasn't tripping game one in game two. So, you know, I just don't want to start that now.

Like, I mean, they're both, both teams are getting beat up. Yeah, so I feel like both teams. That's his point. At the end of the day, you're up to. You're at home. You should be feeling comfortable. You still got a chance to win the game. I just don't want to hear nothing about the officials right now.

With all that said. I don't hear. Everything you just said, yes, but the facts are it was 24 to 8 in the second half. No, that's, I mean. So 23 fouls on the next, 21 on the spurs in the game. Yeah, a lot of them was. The foul call disparity. It's so close.

You said it was 30. It was what? 23 to 21, but it didn't equal in the free throws is what. I know. I know. So we're foul. They're filing. They're filing, but there's a result in the free throw, which is what I'm saying.

There's a result. So he's saying they weren't blowing the Wilson meaningful times. But because of what though? Because they were already in the bone. They already didn't cook themselves. But the free throws, a lot of their free files probably came in the first half as well. So. But watching it, watching it, remember those files were legit fouls.

Like, Shamet was getting legit files. Cat was getting legit files. It was putting some pressure on them. They were putting some pressure on them. When you're talking about being in the bonus or not? The first four or three minute. Yeah. Like, Mikhail Bridges, I'm putting pressure on you.

You're gonna make a mistake, make a mistake. He made a dumb file. We wanna make you make dumb foul. You do the dumb. Because the next, the one thing they do is they file dumb all the time. So when you get them to get dumb foul every now and again, look, dummy, dummy, go to the bench, dummy, you're doing dumb shit. And now you gotta complain at the end of the game about refereeing when you don't got momentum

defensively. You don't got defensive momentum. Now you can't even get the calls because y'all out of position all the time. You're gambling for a little fucking fouls and shit. Well, now he brings it to their attention, though. So I get what he did. He put it on the radar, right? So the referees that's for the next game, it's on their radar.

I feel like game one. I feel like game one, he should have said something. It was smart, man. It was smart. Game one, they was. I think it was strategic. I think it was smart. Where are we coming from?

We're coming from the Minnesota Timberwell series and the O KC Thunder series where we're talking about all on football. It was. We're playing football and we're letting it go. So we get to the finals. We don't want to let it go now because that's what it looked like. It looked like they let it go. They're letting a lot of shit.

We're like, damn, that's a both side. Both sides. So I'm speaking up for my guy and I'm pretty sure if Mitch Johnson team was down in free throw discrepancy 24 to 8 in that regard, he would have something to say as well. Mitch is your first time here, relax. Relax me. Don't say nothing. Don't say nothing.

Don't say a goddamn thing. It's my first time, but I'm here, God damn. Let's say stuff, man. Pull them to the back, man. If you are out here not blowing a whistle for my team, God damn, I'm going to have something to say. I'm going to have something to say. I'm going to have something.

Did the name Popperfish, man. You know what's going on. Does the name's Frankie Johnson? I know you know. Thank you. Thank you, Johnson. Thank you, John. No.

Talking about the physicality, the football component of it, Jaylen Brunton found himself on the wrong side of a few questionable plays in game. Let's take a look at this. This is his first quarter. Wimby. It's salt. Let's watch one more time. No, man, move.

But, hold on. Why is you on me? No, no, no, no. So we wind it a little bit. Let's start from the top, please. Let's start from the top, start from the top, back into the left.

So, Simultaneously as this is going on, let's sell. Look, I mean, look at Johnson trying to stop this man from posting up. You don't call neither one of them. Then both of Wilson, neither one of them be. That's what Mike Brown's saying.

Look, but it's too going. But shit, I'm trying to get a post up. You, you glad to do it. Play it through it. Why you grab me Jersey and be like. So let's look at the next play in the second quarter. Stefan Castle. He tried to sell that.

Yeah, he sold that shit like a mom. He's right there. He tried to set. And he hurt himself and me. And Simon trying to sell that bullshit. You almost caught yourself. Oh, that's a sell right there. You're playing hard, but you're killing.

He almost cost himself, man. Like, turning the tailbone, Nick and cracked it, then you were selling that car. He definitely sold that car. It was a common file. They wouldn't look at it. They did look at it. And you were running for office to rebound.

Did not look at the Wimby play, though. I thought he sold in real time. So that's the plays that Mike Brown was speaking of. You got Wimby pushing this, mushing this man in the ground. Yeah, something shit had got called. Cat trying to post up and you got a fucking wrestling matchup. Let's see it again.

I give you that way. So both in one play, you got two foul that you didn't call. neither one. Come on that now. God damn, I get that. I get it. Which one you're going to get it?

The post up or the wimby? Which one of them? Pick one. Pick one. A cat. Thank you. God damn. I'm going to give the cat.

So you can't take this one. So if I get so, so now if cat take matters into his own hand right now, right? And I chose to get you off of me. It's offensive foul because you didn't blow the whistle. So that's, yeah. But cat doing cheap shit too, though.

Cat got the under hook. I'm trying to post stuff. They're grabbing me. He got the under hook holding. And then he gets around and elbows him in the back. See, no, no, no, he did an elbow. I would have came right down on this shit. Right there.

Right there. No, I would have made it obvious. Give me your story. Hey, automated. All right down on your shit. But they said Brunson had his jersey. All right, well, guess what? I think they said Brunston had, um,

Wimby's jersey. Yeah, a handful. Yeah. He did. It's like down low. Yeah. He deserved to get mushed? Yeah.

Watch out, man. Stop with that bullshit. No, I'm surprised once he didn't grab him by the jersey and do the same thing. You see what he got up, he got up and did this. Man, what is that? But then he tried to set a screw up. What is that? What is this?

You got one more time. Hey, what he did? You got one more time. What is this? Hey, he and then he called for the screen. He was like, okay, come on. Bring it, bring, bring, bring. Let me see, I'm gonna lie.

And then he talked like, yo. What is this? Come here, sucker. You got one more time. See, that worries me. See, that worries me. See, that worries me. But then he called for the screen, like, bring it, bring it, bring, bring.

No, he should have grabbed him by his jersey, and they both should have got a double tag. I'm going to tell you what I'm going to put this finger at. I'm going to take one. I ain't going to use my thumb, my brother. He called for him to bring the screen, right? I'm not going to use my thumb. He's smaller than him out and put it all in his ribs, right?

He got one more two. Take it. I'm going to just go right here with the jersey. Just like, we both get a double tag. But this right here, this finger ain't doing nothing. Looking up, looking up to him. Hey. Hey, one more time.

Turkey. Hey, you got one more turkey. Yeah. You think I'm little, huh? He's like, one more time, buddy. I swear I got one more time, buddy. He's got one more kid, bud. It's like, man, what do you?

So, Skip, are the Spurs playing dirty, or is this just playoff basketball? I do think Victor Wiminyama, the new face of the league, has become the most over-protected player in basketball. That's what I do. In history? In history? Is he not supposed to be protected? Wait, in history? No, now.

Okay, I'm going to say Michael Jordan was. No, no, no, no. What? So he earned what he got. Well, no, go ahead. Go ahead. I'm just trying to trigger you skip. Don't fall for it.

He got the drunk ones on today. He's trying to trigger you skip. He got the different ones, black. He almost went for it too. Look, to your point, I don't want to hear about the officiating. But I do think even though Jalen Brunson down low's got a fistful of jersey, you can't throw him down and get away with that. You got to, come on, man, you got to call that. It's just a flagrant foul.

And I don't care what you say about the Steph Castle. This just in, he made the Pro Bowl. I told you. He's a football player. It's just in. It's just in. Because he is the best tackler in the NBA. And you can't get a running start at a Jalen Brunson who is facing you and go in with forearm

high. put him up in here. It's just a flagrant foul. He sold it, I got it. And he came close to hurting his own tailbone flopping hard. Not flopping, but exaggerating the impact. But it was pretty severe impact

in a play that you never see. It's like a weird when do you see a guy, you know, he's supposed to be boxing him out. He's facing him. You're not turned with your butt to him. You're facing him. Because I can't jump with him. Yeah. I guess so, but he's just coming in like

I'm coming like this man you better get out of my way because I'm going to run your ass over and he ran his ass over and then there was a late call where cat just got fouled he just got hammered and they just said oh it's Nick's ball out of bounds and I'm like

what that's just like a freaking bloody foul you know so the point of this is that Mike Brown did his job he took it right out of the Phil Jackson handbook you have to make your case for game four. You have to plant the seeds of I'm going to defend my team and I'm

going to say discrepancy 24 to 8 in the second half. But you know what? I'm rooting for the Knicks and I'm going on my eye test for the second half. It wasn't glaring. It was the spurs just played harder and smarter all the way home. And because of that, the rest are going to reward them and they deserve to get rewarded the way they got rewarded. There wasn't egregious. like there's uncalled flagrant fouls, but as far as tiki-tack here, there, to your point, I don't even want to hear it because it wasn't glaring last night. The spurs kicked their ass physically,

just kicked their asses from start to finish. So when you talk about faceguard on the offensive rebounder, right, got us always going, what does the coach tell you to do when you got to box him out? Like, if that's a Draymond Green and Josh Smith, Chris Bosch always going to Offensive Glass, you have to faceguard him and you have to

chuck him in his chest and then make sure you keep him off the glass. Stefan Castle was running in there to go do that just in that same thing. He was trying to inflict damage. He was definitely going to get, now when you know that you're the runner and he's supposed to stop you,

there's impact that's going to happen. Yep. And we anticipate that impact. Carter Bryant did it to him. The SGA. Oh, SGA. He did it to SGA. He did.

This is the same thing. So this is Spurs basketball when it comes to offensive rebounding. Go to the glass. Both of them going to the glass, knowing that these two point guards have no chance of boxing them out. Only thing they can do is face guard. So Jalen Brunson, how many fucking charges that he had all year long? He did. A lot of offensive charges.

So that's what he does. So if you're a guard like him, you're one, you know he's going to flop. So We talked about this before I'm going to take my foul I'm going to take my file If I'm going to take my one file It's going to be to run you over

I'm going to make it work I'm going to make this the yeah But then if you're going to sell it Oversell it and still not get it That lets us know you don't want this contact So last thing on this front Windby Flavor in Kenya In your opinion

On Jayland On Prest? Yeah Hell yeah No way Let's hear one more time we can't No way Hell yeah.

If Kenyon says it's a flavor, that's a flavor. Man, get off me. That's a flagrant. If Cleggleggle. Get off me. Get off me. If Kenyon think it's a flagrant, that's a flavor. That's a mug.

He's dirty, his mom, his ass. Shit. But look at some of Kenyan highlights. Shit. That's a flop right there. Oh, you, a flop. That's a half, like a 25, 30 pound weight differently. Yeah, that's a defense and foul, man.

Probo. Defense right there, skip. He didn't even push off. I was trying to start looking at Kim right now. So I think Winby, I think, already has two points because of that flagrant two ejections against the wolves. If he gets, I think, two more, or over four points, he'd be suspended for a game. So NBA has a vested interest to not. They will not go back.

They have to call a flagrant two on it. No. They'll get him a flagrant one in that regard. By the way, Stefan Castle is the damnedest driver of the basketball I've ever seen? Because it's like football, like he just attacks and it's bang, crash, travel, bang, crash. Travel, right? And then he gets underneath and he pump fakes a couple times, and then he just powers people out of the way.

It's unbelievable. It's strong. It's raw. It's kind of ugly basketball, but it works, man. You know what it is? It's easy. It's easy for them. Define know what it is?

Get that pro ball ring, man. Go ahead and get that opinion. Define Cassell. Yeah. We ain't tripping. Mr. B. No, he did not. No, he did not.

Okay, now much. He from Georgia. You went to new, but great question. All right, let's talk about another situation that went on at the game. Game three saw some American history made as Donald Trump became the first sitting president to attend an NBA finals game. Trump is a New Yorker longtime Knicks fan, was personally invited by Nick's owner James Dolan. So as a result of Trump pulling up to the game, security perimeter was installed ahead of game three around MSG. That's what it looked like.

You were not walking past Madison Square unless you had a ticket or a media credential. Fans were instructed to arrive at the arena at least two hours before tip-off to undergo extensive security checks. So Trump sat in a suite with Dolan. Here was Nick's fan's reaction when he was shown on the Jumbotron during the national anthem. Can't tell if they were saying boo or boo?

But either way. NYPD and Secret Service also canceled traditional outdoor watch parties outside of MSG for game three only with team sanctioned watch parties being moved to Central Park in the Brooklyn Bowl after the game several Knicks fans placed the blame on the president for the Knicks loss but skip we'll start with you did Trump kill the energy inside and outside of Madison Square Garden for game three of the finals first finals game since 1999 well he definitely killed it outside as you point out it's a lot You move the gathering from under the nose of Madison Square Garden to Central Park and elsewhere. And yet here we have the most polarizing president in the history of this country. And you can criticize him for a whole lot of things, but I'm going to defend one part of this, and that is he didn't just jump on the bandwagon out of nowhere and say I'm going to the game.

He is from New York City, grew up in New York City, born in Queens, but he was a next season ticket holder back in the 80s and 90s, so you got to give him that there's some history here, and that's where I disagreed with Stephen A. Smith, that you can't blame him for wanting to be part of it, but you can blame him for knowing or not knowing that his presence was going to have a chilling effect on the whole sense. city because they were going to have to lock down such a, the Spurs said it took their bus, it's a mile and a half from their hotel, it took 30 minutes and they were a little late to get there. So it's going to screw everything up because your presence is so big and your Secret Service presence is so big, they're going to take over everything. And it's going to have a little bit of a dampening effect on everybody involved with the game. So I can't condemn him for wanting to be there.

because he was a part of it in its early going. And he was, what, 26 when they last won their 1973 championship? So he knows what it felt like. And he's a Knicks fan. So I can't condemn that part of it. But, again, the bigger picture he should have been wise enough to sit back and say, maybe I should just watch from afar because I don't want to mess up what was happening. They'd won 13 straight games.

and for me to suddenly walk in the back door with my secret service, it's going to have an impact on the city itself. Go watch the game in the yardhouse. And allegedly you was at the game sleep. It did look like he goes. Yeah, allegedly there was a picture out there. He was looking down. He went to the game and you went to sleep.

Yeah, you could have dozed off on the confines of your own couch, brother. You think I'm going to shy away from this moment? No, him no. No, Timothy Salamane can come to the game and I can't. No, no. Timothy Salamite, shit. He's not going to shot with him. Fat Joe and DJ Callet, another one can be here and I can't.

That's why he did it. I'm me. What you're talking about? I'm me. The nature boy. Woo! Huh? That's why he did it.

Donald. He got a tower down the street. He does. What are we talking about? Donald better be in that motherfucker. Donald watch me. Trump. What? Donald Watch me Trump, man.

Listen, I pay for half of this damn building. This has this shit have mine. Dolan, you know, you owe me from golf. You owe me. You owe me. A couple of bees. We better be in a good street, too.

We got a bet back from 1995. Sure, right. So New York City fans. So Nick's fans. Now that I'm glad what you just said, y'all shouldn't be mad at the president. Y'all shouldn't have booed him.

Y'all should have booed James Dolan for inviting him. Let's start there. It was an invitation. It was. So he didn't pick up and decide to come to the game. He was invited to the game. He could have declined, but he was invited by the man that owns that building and owns that team. So this is another James Dolan.

Who, by the way, inherited that team from him. This is another James Dolan fault. Right here. Right? So this is not on Trump for showing up. This is on the owner for inviting him. Mr. B., former New York Nick, much like Kenyon. Trump killed the vibe inside Madison Square Garden.

No. One man? One man coming to the game and he's the problem? Like, we hear to play basketball. I'll be honest with you. If I'm one of the basketball players that's playing in the this game. I don't care who can't get in. I'm here to play a basketball game and I'm here to win game three. That's my only focus. I get what's going on. I get it. I mean, the president

has gone to many events in the world. I mean, if the Bulls was in the, it was in the finals when Derek Rose is there, you don't think Obama was going to go? Nope. Yes, he would have gone. I don't think he would have gone. I don't think he would go to a regular season game. No, he would have definitely won to. He's a, he's a left-hand hooper who has back yard. He's back our hoops with his friends and everybody. You're telling me Obama would have been at the same. Because it ain't ever about him, so he wouldn't have made it about him. No, no, it's not about him.

Yes, it was. No, yes, it was. Obama. Obama comes to a game. Who the real king of New York? I'm the real king of New York. Obama is not self-absorbed like this. It ain't watched me.

I love the game. It ain't never been about watch me. The Bulls are back in the finals since Mike. And you're talking about I'm not going to United States. Obama was at the fucking Washington Wizards games, my nigga. After he retired. Yeah. After he...

No, Obama was there during and after before the whole But meaningless games. Yeah. Not... He came to some Carolina games. He won't be... But everything that comes with that,

I get, you want to pull up to a game, the owner of the Knicks advice me to a game, can I'm pulling up. But if that means, I've got to push out the real fans who've been in these streets holding it down for years. Fuck Trey Young and everything else. James Don't owe me, dog.

He owe me something. Like I said, they probably lost my mayor Muslim, my name. He owed me though, so I'm coming to game. Time to pay back. Yes, it is. I'm coming to game three. I'm almost out of off. I'm almost out of off. Let me go ahead and get my second term. Let me get my terms in.

Goodbye. But just in terms of the whole vibe, and like I said, underdog drop the video. What? Go to the game in San Antonio. Underdog dropped the video on their Instagram account, interviewed real life New Yorkers after the game. Go to the game and San Antonio. What's the difference?

Go to the game and San Antonio. I ain't from San Antonio, man. The only reason why I think it's a really big thing. I mean, you got the World Cup that's going on right now in New York, right? So it is a lot of, it's a lot of different things going on right now. World Cup going on here in L.A. soon, too. You know, you got the World Cup, you got the finals. They're out the streets.

I mean, hey, man, we got a game to win, man. But that's what we talked about earlier in the show. I don't feel like that was a true representation of Madison Square Garden. Would it should have been. It's your first finals game in 27 years. The broke boys and girls can't convene outside the original. to least parking lot pimp get a feel for what's going on getting booted out barricades all around the venue tsa screenings that's all i'm saying it was unfair to the fan all you got to do is just invite charles oakley now the game for it they're gonna forget about it no he ain't gonna forget about it oak ain't coming they did they didn't win the game they to forgot about it wouldn't even be headline that's how we put in his favor it would have but it didn't that's what's it was it got one because i came to the end they're 30 seconds away from winning the day, they down three.

But it didn't. But it didn't. The facts are they lost and now it's a bigger deal than it should have been, right? 13 game winning straight time. Like I said, and allegedly the man was at the game sleep.

Can we all battle the Idis? I'm to be honest. You know, you, you create all this boring ass to take your ass to go to the game and your narcoleps and kick thin. He did too many chicken wings. I'm 70-something years old, man.

I ain't got it like I used to. I ain't got it like I used two. See, this you born. He over there at a hat-tire, who, Cardi? Cardi B. Actually, woke him up. He woke up. He woke up in Charles, verbally.

He woke up. He only stayed for a half, he and stayed for the whole game. Yeah, I know. No, he stayed. Stay for the whole game? He stayed to the bitter end. Okay. Oh, he did.

It's New York. Man, it's my city. Okay, I didn't think he stayed for the whole game. Yeah. We got some work. We got work after work, man. It's New York after hours. Yeah, I get some tweets on that.

Going to grab about a game. You're going on New York City. grab him by the you know who. Hey, man. Hey, listen. Snow and I ain't going. He sure the snow's going.

He actually did say that shot. He said Fennet Snowing, he would not be going. But it pulled up. All right, well. Sprinkle, sprinkle. We got game four on the agenda Wednesday. We will see how this goes. But let's keep this thing moving.

So Time Magazine dropped its first ever list of the top 100 most influential people in sports. And the man Skip picked as one of his goats was selected to grace the cover you did We have the video skip. You cannot. No takebacks.

So, Brian got the knot with time dubbing him as the athlete of the century. Oh, we go. I don't know how to do this. Oh, wait, I do. I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it. Mr. Big, smoke for LeBron. Profileile photo.

Caroline looking intact. Time editor-in-chief, Sam Jacobs gave Bronn this distinction given his longevity on the court and overall staying power saying, quote, we call him the athlete of the century, not solely because of his on-court achievements, but also because over his career he has redefined what it means to be a professional athlete in public life through his political engagement and business effort James has set a new standard for the generations that follow and for those who join him on the list. So Mr. Beal will start with you. You guys will smoke to LeBron, Raymond James, Sr. Now, let's ask for shoppers.

Time 100. This is Time, okay. A very important magazine. Let's ask for shop first. Time magazine. And then I won't skip to go. International known national respect. Locally accepted. Shalb, what do you think?

True action through Time Magazine calling LeBron the most influential athlete of the century. Well, a century is like, what, like 10 years, right? I think this. Since the year, 2000. That's a decade. That's a decade. So he got two of them.

Two of them. Three of them. Is it a hundred years? Yeah. This century. So we are currently in a century. Athlete of the last 100 years? Most influential.

Of this, no, 21st century. It's the last 26 year. 26, yeah. Yeah, the last 26 years. Yeah. Mm. Why could I use another picture of that nigga, man? The highest quality photo, according to Time magazine.

Yeah, man, yeah. We, we, yeah, yeah. Like Wendy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I'm talking about. Why not? That's what I'm talking about. Why not?

That's what I'm talking about. Why not? Now you cooking. Shit. Talk to him. No? Shout the chat said that's your best take of the day. This is the chat.

I'm going to talk to him. I'm from the chair. They're putting tombstones in right now. Yeah, man. I mean, shit. You can't get Michael Jackson or Tupac or none of these other influential characters. You know, Kobe is resting in peace, you know, and Michael don't want to be, he don't want that picture. He didn't want that picture.

He even been on Wheaties and all kind of shit, you know what I'm saying? Like, somebody got to feel that's, somebody got to feel the magazine. Why not Brian? Shit, he's done a lot. How much more he gonna do? You gotta win an Emmy though, and an Oscar. Should have got nominated for Trainwright.

Got to write a few books too. A Grammy too? You need a Grammy too? You gotta get a Grammy. All right cool. You gotta get a Grammy. Okay. You gotta get a Grammy.

You gotta get influence on everything. You gotta get your golf swing together. It's a lot of shit you gotta work. You gotta get the green jacket. You gotta get the double album for those who are Double album for sure. It's gonna make two albums. Take all these tracks put it on two albums.

Let's get, what's your reaction to Time Magazine calling LeBron the most influential athlete of the century? So let's see, he's the ninth greatest basketball player ever, NBA basketball. According to some. Yeah, according to Scott. According to Skip. According to many. One person.

Somebody else can feel that way. One person. One is enough. You know what I'm saying? One is enough. One is most to none. One of my favorite pimps once said. But Josiah, I can't.

told you when you asked me a couple of weeks back, longevity goat, he is. And it ain't even close. The goat? To go as long as he has age 41, year 23, is just all-time extraordinary. It's frankly, it's impossible, and I'm going to knock on wood when I say this,

but he's never had a single surgery. And he has been a high, contact basketball player, rim attacker, hard foul by lots of big men. A rim attacker? Yeah. And he's still standing, and I think he's going to play a couple more years. I think we're going to talk about that. I feel like you're losing to something, man.

No? No. No, no, it's not. I'm giving him. Bill Health million dollars per year on his body. Million dollars a year on his body. Who else is doing that? You can't, you can't, you can't just find that type of city anywhere.

Like, dedication. A million dollars to burn. All one dollar bills apparently. Make a good point. You athlete, you know triathletes, man, you know, a million dollars to keep me. No, you're right. So the point is that influential is the operative word here, right? and his influence through all this social justice commentary has been also extraordinary.

So I give you all of the above. That's way beyond Jordan. But greatest player. Clip it and chop it together. Yeah. Greatest player. There's just one and one only, and everybody knows that deep down. And it's that guy who used to play in Chicago.

So that's the perspective on this. But I give you that. And he earned that and deserves it. And I don't think he's finished yet. So that's going to be very, if he can play two more years of the quality he just played this last one, man. Again, it doesn't make a goat case as in greatest ever player, but it definitely makes a longevity goat case. I'm disappointed, Skip, we're supposed to, one of us going to have to take a side. We can't both be congratulating him.

It's okay. It's 2026, guys. We don't know. Come on, man. The future holds. The most influential, what is influence, please? Somebody enlighten me? What's the metric of influence?

Speaking out. I'm not saying he's Mohammed Ali, but because he didn't have to risk what Ali risked to speak out. Is influence, what, getting people to do what you do? Getting people to go buy tickets to space jam when it comes out? Aquan, Space Jam too, by and large. Just asking. Better the Space Jam work. I should have went like 10 million.

Better third act. First day. Steph Curry, you know, got certain guys who are influential. Yeah, he has been. I think Steph is more influential than LeBron. In speaking out? Well, just in the last 10 years. As far as influence.

Would you say Magic Johnson is influential? Yep. In what ways? Tone-setter, opinion-maker, leader, community leader. Open movie theaters in the hood shot, I'm saying as far as, I'm influencing you to co- and do what I...

Like, if you're influencing the future generations to be more like Magic Johnson, I would consider that. But Magic stands alone because it's about access. It's about who you stand next to. So it's like, well, all right, what is LeBron influenced? When we're talking about influence to be over the last 100 years of an athlete, what is his influence greater than Tom Brady's or Cristiano Ronaldo?

He's built an empire. So they all have empires. Well, LeBron is led speaking out for racial justice, right? Has he been an athletic leader? Who has magic put on? Like that we know of. Like, I mean, I'm just saying, I know he's a great business person. I know Tom Brady's a great.

But who are they put on? Like, I mean, who's around, who's around, huh? I think Jezeel put Tom Brady on. I understand. He has more emotion. He put Zelle out there. She didn't take the bait. I'm just saying, man, we got a guy, I mean, we got a guy that came in.

I mean, the first time I heard about LeBron James from ABCD Camp, and then he was on the cover of Slam Magazine with Sebastian Telfare. And I just think from that moment on, he set the tone for what it is for an athlete to become a billionaire. I mean, he's the first active player to play in the NBA that's a billionaire, put his guys on, have a billion-dollar empire from Rich Paul to Maverick to all these guys. So if we're talking about influence and being able to break bread and actually be able to do it his way and come into the league and be successful, and also being told that by the time he got to the league, with $100 million, he wouldn't be able to be an NBA chance. champion, he wasn't going to be able to answer the cause, and he's done that.

So we're talking about a guy who's the American dream, who's been hitting it from every angle, from, you know, from his relationship, from his mom just alone, just not even like, you know, growing up without a father figure and being able to, you know, being able to just do what everybody said I couldn't do. Well, I'm still talking about influence. I mean, that is influence. I mean, we're talking about the American dream. Braid, the Allen Ivers and braids. Very influential. Very influential. Right, right, right, that is. That's a culture thing. Right, that is.

That's a culture thing. It's an influence for culture. Right. It's a culture of hip-hop and basketball. Motherfugs have been having braids since the 70s and 60s. But not wanting to play ball like that and have the them type of braids, right? They look at Michael Jordan, the Jordan brand. Okay.

The logo. Okay. Right. It's influential. Yeah, it's powerful. It's very powerful. Steph Curry's jump shot. Very powerful.

This is an influential, very influential. Very influential. as far as what you take from him and you see it and you're like, we want to, I want to be, I want to be like Mike, Steph Curry, I want to shoot from here, Alan Iverson, I want the sleeve. We're talking about basketball now. We're talking about that. We're just, feel, your own basketball. Everywhere.

Like, just you go outside. It's like you got the sleeve. You had the Alan Ivers of sleeve with the braids. Just from what you've seen them do. What is LeBron's signature influential mark in the culture? Seriously? Yeah. What's his signature?

Are you serious? Like if there was a blueprint to how you want to get it done, I think LeBron James is a blueprint. Well, I'm not, I'm saying the influence. That is influence. I mean, if you go look at Kevin Durant, the way the who's that Kevin Durant. What does that logo look like? On it up. It's the crown.

I mean, his logo is the crown. I mean, what are you talking about? He don't need a logo to be an influential. The clutch. He don't need that. I mean. His name is his logo. So, when you mentioned, LeBron.

LeBron James, but you mentioned LeBron James. Yeah, his name, just alone. Alone, he doesn't need a logo to identify with that. Yeah. It just so happened, Jordan had the logo. The, it just so happened that was created for him. No. But Michael Jordan name is the influential part of it.

It's called branding and marketing. It is. And he doesn't have his own brand. If that's what you're trying to say, yes. No, I'm asking what is influence when. when you have identifiable markers of your influence. The braids, the shoes, the jump shot. Which one of them guys have a school?

What's your name? Which one of those guys? No, no, no, all the guys that you're naming, that influential guy that you're naming, that all the influence that those guys have had has been positive, yes. Magic Johnson style. Which one of them does has a school?

What do they need a school for? Magic. That's his influence. Magic has hospitals and movie theaters. He owns three teams. That's a lot of bigger. Yeah, that's business stuff. So it's the school.

He paid a million dollars to be attached to this. So what LeBron does, it's not business, starting clutch, starting to hold. I'm not saying none of that. I'm asking what is the influence. It's the blueprint of how to be successful as. How I walked into the league. How to be successful as a young black man in this country. Katie, not trying to do the same thing, Brian doing?

Doug, how to be successful growing up without a father, single mother household. So is the blueprint? How to be successful as a young black man. How to stay out of trouble. How to never to go to prison. How to take care of the loved ones. Is that on the, is? Is that a PDF?

Is that a PDF you can download online? Why would you need that? Because these are all the influential things that you're naming. Because it's like a book. It's like something tangible I can have. You act. You can Google it. You can Google LeBron James and look at.

from age 15, 16, 17, 18 to 41, what it has endured to be at that level of success on the floor and off the floor. Get off. So where is the influence? Not tarnishing your name, not tarnishing your image. What do you mean? What is the influence? I want to be like my weed, weedies, Gatorade.

Like these are branding identifiers of influence. And they were in the last century. But we're being honest, they were all in the last century. So we're talking about this century, which in the last 26 years. They were in the last century before it turned 2000. You know that? When it turns 2000. No, that's a decade.

It's 10 years. Rashide. When it's 100. From 2000 on is the start of the 21st century. The 21st century. The other guys were 2000 and before. Now from 2000 to now, it's LeBron James. The 20th century was the last.

So the last 26 years. That's what it is. Yes. Like, that's what we're talking. We do remember the last 26 years of watching sports and all of that. There have been other people. We're not just talking to them. We're talking everything, though.

We're talking everything. That Perry has been more influential the last 10 years than LeBron James. No, he has not. And LeBron in the last 26? Then the last 24 years? No. Before that, LeBron. It may have been the need for 21 years.

Four Steph came. 23 of the 26 years of this century. LeBron James was playing in the National Basketball Association. It was Kobe Bryant from 2000 to 2011. He wasn't the most influential. He still wasn't.

He was not the most influential. Brian James was not more influential. Yes, he was. When Kobe Bryant was playing in NBA, when Kobe Bryant was playing an NBA, it was the only other person would be Alan Husson. We don't want to start throwing mud in here. No, no, I know what we're trying to do,

but we're not doing that. So we're speaking facts, right? Are we talking facts on his couch? Are we speaking like real thing? Yes, and I'm sorry, Skip. People are going to get mad, but Kobe has a tarnishment on his record, dog. The shit in Colorado people didn't forget about. I hate to bring it up, but it happened.

That's facts. It happened. So that tarnishes his influence in numerous ways with a lot of people. Like, I hear you, yes. You said facts, though. This is a fact. That is a fact. So you say.

You said it ruins it with some people. Yes, with some people. But the facts is he's still a great player. Nobody said he wasn't. Nobody said it. Nobody said he wasn't. And the Mamba mentality is a thing, right? He did everything he could.

The Mamba mentality. He also quit on his teammates too. So if you want to bring up Mamba mentality, he also quit on the team when he had Mamba mentality. Is it a thing? We don't want to start throwing shade. No, he's doing that. He's trying to make that happen.

But we're not going to let that happen because. He won two championships. Yes, but the facts are. the last 26 years, right? Let's exclude Kobe from. The last 26 years since the new century had turned over. There has not been a more influential

blueprint of an athlete, man, person to go by than LeBron James. And he is the Muhammad... To your point, Skip, I think he's the Muhammad Ali of this error. I'm not going to go that far. I am. Let's not do that, Brandon.

This man with the prison... I got to agree with... This man with the principle of his beliefs. We're not going to do that. No, that's fine. Fine. What the fuck are you talking about? I mean, at the peak of his career.

I mean, if that's what- The Brunge isn't want to be at that shit. I don't need to. He left his own team. I don't need to do that. I don't need to do that. You just said, I got to go out of this team three times. I got to agree with Rich Walsh said.

Brett, we're not going to do that. Rish Wall said that. I got to agree with that. Who did he quit on this team? He quit on this team. He got wrong as well. I got agree with that. So, no, hold on, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

So you mean to tell me that LeBron, you believe that LeBron James would have put his career on hold for belief for other people? That's what you, no, no, no, answer my question. Answer, it wasn't religion. You just said it because he was. It wasn't religion. It wasn't religion. It wasn't, do you think, for any other purpose, do you think LeBron James would have put his career on home? and at this peak.

Do you think LeBron James would have went to prison for other, for a different belief? Do you believe that? I don't know. I don't know. I'm not LeBron. So why do you go with what somebody else said then? I believe it, though. I agree with that because if we're talking about the...

So I just asked you said you didn't know why do you believe it if you don't know. I got to go to prison. That's what Muhammad Ali did. That's what he did. Mohamed Ali with the prison. He's bigger than Mohammed Ali. No, but he's bigger than Mohammed Ali is.

No, he's not. No, Brian. That's big a guy. Now, that you doing shit for clickbait. No, I'm not doing that. That's clickbait. He's not. He's American dream.

That's click bait. He's American dream. That is an American dream. He's American dream. Yes, I agree with you. A billion dollars, a billion dollars where I'm playing. I was with you. I don't have to go to prison because of, I don't have to go to prison because of that.

He ain't. He would never, he would never be Muhammad Ali. He is who he is in his own right. Greater. Thank you. He would never. He did it better. He did it better. He did it better. He did it better.

He did it better. He did it better. He did it better. He did it better. He did it better. No, he didn't. No, he did it. To me. He did it his way.

It's my opinion. It's fine. That's your opinion. This is your opinion. This is a fact. This is a fact. This man with a prison for a different belief and his prime. This is a fact.

I grew without a dad and I had to figure it out. Me too. I had to figure it out. I did. And I had to figure it out. Not like him. A lot of people. Not like him.

Not like him. What made him so different? Not like him. He was a number of pick. I was a number of people. He and me and he and it's all the same. You said, we'll make him different? Yeah, we'll make them different.

I answer the call whenever they, whenever they're talking about me, I answer the fucking call. That's what that's what makes me fucking different. Whenever somebody say LeBron, I answer the fucking call. And what does that mean? In every way. American journey. Hold on. What point are you making that?

Hey, yo, pull up the cover. So what point are you making out? The cover. The cover. The cover is what you make it is. So what point are you making out? So what point are you making? The cover is what it is.

The cover is what it is. What point are you making is the question? The cover is what it is. What point are you making? What point are you making? What point are you making? Who's not in the conversation? Nobody's in the same conversation as LeBron James when it comes to who.

But there it is. It's about everything. Basketball, life, everything. So you cut the American dream. So you don't know what you want to. No, I just said he's the American dream. I said he's the American dream. You don't know.

And I agree with you until you said that shit about Muhammad Ali. And I'm still rolling. And I'm still rolling. I was on board with you. And I'm still rolling. But like I said, it's fine. It ain't got to go to prison to make me great. But you don't compare him then.

I don't have to go to prison because I want to go that route. Because I want to go that you said somebody else made that you believe in. If he want to get here, he got to go to jail. No, he doesn't. No, he doesn't go to jail. No, no, he said it's a different way. He said it's his opinion. He got to take a cigarette.

For other people's opinion. Yeah. In order for it to be right for me. For me? For me? So he said, Rich Paul said so he believed it. Yeah, yeah. No, I believe that statement.

I like that statement. I like it. I agree with the statement. I agree with somebody else's false statement. I agree with the statement. Somebody else is false statement. Okay, that's you. No, somebody else is false statement.

That's you. That's what you agree with. That's fine. It's a fact. That right there is a fact. It is. And I'm with you with this. So however I feel, that's what I'm rolling.

It ain't your thought, so it ain't how you feel like somebody else's side. I like it. So, well, say that, it ain't how you feel. I like it. And I do feel like that. It's something else's thought. That was a great statement. No, you didn't think of it.

I'm going off his statement and I agree with that statement. So it ain't chose. I agree with the statement, so I'm going off of it. You didn't think of it. I agree with it. You agree with it. You agree with it. It's like people agree that LeBron James is number nine from Skip.

They agree with that. I agree with what Rich Paul said. And I'm rolling. And nobody agreeing with that. Okay. I agree with Skip. I agree with Skip. They're the ninth best one all that all the top 10.

That's fine. See, that's fine. See, that's fine. No, no. See, that's the point. It can be one or two. Yeah, yeah, you gotta say it right. You got to say it right.

That's the pin. He put a number on it. Yeah, it's getting fucked up. He's getting fucked up. Skip it fucking up. He's got to say he's top 10. I ain't going to tell you why I'm going to put him that damn. He could be 10.

He's on the song for show. He could be 10. He could be seven. He can be three. It don't matter. Whatever I'm feeling. Don't piss me off today, LeBron. Oh, you're 10.

Got damn. Wait a second. He's four and six in finals. And would be three and seven? if not for Ray Allen, I don't know. Hey, well, guess what? That's what teammates are for. Oh, and T-Inty.

Hey, well, God damn, that's what teammates are for. Speaking of teammates, can you? So in an interview with time, LeBron addressed a variety of topics, including the narrative around ring chasing and star players teaming up with each other, saying, quote, it's no different from someone in business

going from one place to the next place because they get a better opportunity to be around better people. In sports, sometimes people get so caught up and he should do this on his own. I don't play tennis. I don't play golf. The way I grew up

is we've got to do this together as a team. So teamwork does make the dream work. That is what they say. It does. It's a true. Okay. Is that a fact?

We do that. Friends, how many of us have? Everything is a... It's all the fact. I mean, if you want to be dumb and stay in the dumb situation, that's on you. So, hey, some people like to just stay stuck.

Me? Like you said, I like to do business with people that can... No, Mr. B., you should do it with people who are inexperienced, and you should guide them and leave them to exit. Okay.

Well, we'll see. Well, okay. Skip, what are your thoughts on LeBron saying players teaming up with other stars isn't cheating? I had absolutely no problem. You can look it up. I did not criticize LeBron for leaving Cleveland the first time to join forces with, obviously, Dwayne Wade and Chris Bosch and Pat Riley. He needed that, and they needed him.

And that's, I just don't, I don't condemn him for that. I didn't look down on him. I just thought it was time for him to go try to chase rings. And I believe it was worthy ring chasing to go join forces with those guys and take a little less money to do so. So I appreciated that. And yet that first finals, they're up two games to one. And he fell apart. The chosen one became the frozen one in that finals.

But the point is, I'm fine with what he's saying. By the way, he does play golf. He's like obsessed with golf. So he does understand. He just doesn't play it for a living. So what he's saying, I've never had an issue with him, quote-unquote, ring chasing.

Kevin Durant was the ultimate ring chaser. I know for a fact, said, after nine years in Oklahoma City, I'll never win a championship with that guy as my point guard and my primary decision maker. That's a fact. And he said, I'm going to go join forces with the team that we have.

down three games to one. I'm going to go to the Bay and join Steph and Clay and Dremont and watch what happens. And he stood up and lived up to that. He was the finals MVP the next two years. And I didn't ever criticize him one second for that. It's life. And LeBron's right about business. That happens in business all the time.

So I'm good with that. I'm not good with LeBron being the goat, but I'm good with that. There was no part of that question. I understand. Just to keep it real. Just to the big perspective. It was me saying players streaming up over there. Yeah.

I love it. There's no portion of that question related to anything. Go talk. But let's shift over this. I can you. What are your thoughts on the Brown saying players teaming up with other stars in and then cheating? Stars joining forces to be successful.

Isn't that the American dream to want to succeed in life? It is. It definitely is the American dream to want to succeed. and everything that you do, especially in sports. I don't think it was the leaving Cleveland that was the issue. I think it was the way he went about the leaving, right? That rubbed people the wrong way.

And then you get there, and then all of y'all on the stage, the one, not one championship, but two, three, four, five, I think it was all of that that people had a problem with. And Hooper thing, like for me, you look at other guys that probably wasn't in the best winning situation when their career first started. They might have a little success here and there, guys that stuck with it with their original team. It paid off for some, some it didn't.

but to stick it out for some was the move. But for him, he feels he needed the change of environment, a change of knowing how to win, being in the finals against sweeping Cleveland, get San Antonio and things like that is, it's demoralizing, you know. So if you're a competitor, which I think he is, he wanted the best chance to win.

So can't fault. him in that regard. But like I said, I think people had a problem with the leading up to the leaving. He could have made the decision, signed it with Miami, not did the press conference, and that some would have a gripe, probably the fans of Cleveland, of course, had a problem with the whole situation. But the outside noise was, I think, the, I'm going to South Beach thing. I think was the thing that people had an issue with, I think.

But if you want to go win, you want to go win, man. So it is what it is. King Will Smith had a whole song about going to Miami. And people loved it. Yeah, I dig it. But, you'm saying? It's just, and you get, and he, we, we, he gets compared to Kobe, dirt, Tim, the guys that stuck with one team. You get, unfortunately, if you get put in that box because of the Michael Jordans and the Magic Johnson, those guys, you get, because of your quote-unquote greatness, you get put in that box where those guys did it with one team.

And they frowned upon it because of that, I think. But like I said, if you want to win, he want to win. More power to the man. He made his grown man, like I stayed at the time. He's a grown man, he can make whatever decisions he wanted to make for his career. And he did that, and he benefited from him. He got two of them. So down there, and it is what it is.

Shosh for now. I mean, I just believe in wartime, man, when it comes down to knowing that you have a bunch of troops that you got to lead, This is your army. This is your kingdom. This is your throne. And for you to leave at any point to go fight somebody else, it's just weird energy for me. It always has been.

I didn't like any of the people that I respected that did that. And I think that you go back and say, Michael George in the 1990, 19 going into 1991 goes to play with Hakeem Olajuwon and the Houston Rockets. They won't win three in a row. But they're not going to look at Michael. Like, why are you going to go play with Hakeem.

team. They're not going to think something of it. Like, you guys are cheating. What the fuck is going on here? Like, come on. All these fucking, to me, it's the integrity part of when you make a decision like that. Because in 2011, you didn't win the championship when you first got there. So is playing with other great players cheating? No. It's not cheating. But it's like putting an all-star roster to get. other on NBA 2K and just going up against random rosters that don't have any superstars on them or one and you got four you can look at it like cheating like damn you're gonna use a custom roster against me bro I'm using the regular rosters this is default I'm playing on team you're playing all-time team against my regular team this is Sacramento Kings come on man like I got the I got the trash team you got the all-time team So it is, it looks a certain way for certain people, man.

When you look at how many players on your team and what you need, when you don't need that, you literally got there as many times as you could without none of these good players. You can win without them. So it is a frowning thing. When you look at it, you go, damn, man. You need that dude. Yeah, he wouldn't want in Cleveland. You need that dude.

Because my dude lost a dude that they said he was riding on the backpack and he was like, you know what? In order for y'all to respect me, I got to win without him. And he went and did that without chating teams. So when you look at the integrity side of trying to prove to your competitors that you're better, you got to do it a certain way. I got to do it a certain way to win. Because you joined the motherfuckers, and it's like, okay, who's the people who ain't winning? Who's the captain?

Because you left your kingdom over there. That's crazy. The kingdom of Cleveland. That's crazy Like I said it feels like the man grown he made a decision you wanted to make But like I said in the sports world and we're talking about sports here People had something to say that's just what it was And I think for some who was looking for a reason

To dislike him they he gave them one right Looking for a reason so they gave him he he he provided the ammunition and people ran with it and they haven't let go of the reins since then, right? Those who was looking for a reason, they have doubled down on it in every aspect of LeBron James since going back to Cleveland, winning it, coming out here and winning it, like, they didn't let go of the fact that he fucking left. Because that should be enough, right? That should be plenty. It should be. It should be plenty. Go back to win the championship. One here, one here, but it's not. It's not for some. It's not. Because it looked nasty on how you did it, you lined it all up. Oh, I did it my way.

Everywhere I went, I won. We didn't like this. We didn't like this movie. It didn't like this movie. I mean, a lot of people don't like it in business, but it's business. It happens in business. Negotiate. That's a negotiation.

But long as you win, though. That's the main thing. Like, the ultimate goal is to win. You got four of them. So like, a lot of people talking ain't won. So it's like, I mean, I guess you ain't make the right business decision. Yeah. And that's just what it is.

Everybody can't win, though. A lot of people don't know how to. to win or don't want to win or put the ego aside to win. Well, last thing before we take off. So you think that's what he did going to Miami? You think he put his ego aside? Yeah, because I'm going to. Okay.

I'm not asking. Yeah. And that's, I do. I never heard, that's the first time I've heard that. Really? Mm-hmm. That he tried to be. No, no, he did.

No, he did. Because I'm going to- I'm going to stay, no. He could have stayed there and been getting his head beat in every year in Cleveland and been like, I'm making it to the final, but I'm losing. I'm making it to the final, but I'm making it to the He's gonna find I'm losing. I'm at 30. I imagine 35.

I could have kept doing that. You can't get your headbeat and making it to the final. No, but he wasn't going to win in Cleveland. We don't think he would have won in Cleveland with the way it was constructed. He was doing what he was supposed to up to that point. The 25 points in the fourth quarter of the Detroit,

getting over this hump and all that. Yes. But that's the first. To put it that way, yes. If more people would have heard that in the beginning, okay. The hate probably would have been less.

Still would have had some that had a problem with. But the fact that you said, man, he put his ego aside. Yeah, because I'm, yes. Because I'm going to somebody else's team who won it. Yes. And this is, absolutely. So it's like, yo, I got to come in and we know how Miami is. I didn't.

I took my ego with me. It makes sense, they took my cut. I took my ego with me over here. He did, but I didn't leave my ego back there. But he checked it at the door. Hell no, he just put it in his pocket. Yes, yes. Yeah.

That's what he's saying. No, no, because I still got it. Same difference. It's what he's saying. He checked it. He checked it. But once he got in, let me take my shit out. Of course.

Let me go ahead. I got two, though. After he got two, I pulled it out. No. But the cookie shit. He did that after the first, when they lost in 2011. Remember, they lost in 2011. He averaged 17 a game in the finals and all that shit.

Was it less than that? The last three games, 15 again. Yeah, but. So that was, after that, they needed to check the ego because we can't have you down here playing second fiddle to be weighed. Either way it go, I think it got checked. He got checked. He put it in his pocket.

Yes, he got checked. He still got it. I'm telling him. He didn't lock it in the safe. He didn't lock it in the safe. Somebody has to come and make you feel like you don't need to put your ego out. He didn't lock it in the safe. He didn't lock it in the safe.

He had that bitch hanging out of his pocket. It was right. They seen that motherfucker. I'm saying like on the, what's your prison break, tea bag. Yeah. Got his right there. Got his pocket hanging out. Come grab his pocket.

King, one of the greatest shows of all time. Come grab his pocket, man. It's right there. But, Kim, when they lost in Miami, he still had to have it tucked. They lost. He did. He did. He didn't, he didn't start.

Dirk. Yes. 11. So it was still tough. That was the first year. And he shows up. It was checked. He didn't put it in his pocket all the way.

Dallas, saying, I'm new here. But Dallas tucked that bitch back in. 100%. The problem was starting to pull that motherfucker ego back in. Dallas was like, no, we got something. Because we is in the final. Dirt is like, hey, I'm him. Right?

So the next year I got to take my ego out. Because in order of us to win. It was. I don't think he poured it back out until they wanted to. Hell no. I don't think he pulled it out until they won them two. Yes, exactly. Yeah, that's.

So the ego took them back to Cleveland. Absolutely. RIP tweeter. Yeah, you know what I'm talking about? One of the greatest characters in TV. So we got a tidbit for you. So Michael Schofield, the thing on his back, the map and all that, my tattoo artist, Tom, I didn't San Pedro.

Did that. Shout out to Tom. Yeah. Tom nice. Detailing the way to it. Absolutely. And the movie, Red Dragon with the skeleton on the dude back, the handle of the bullet, he did that as well. Okay.

Wow. Shout out to Tom. A fine city. I'm of the Bullitt family. All right. Well, appreciate all you, Jim. It's side discord today. We talked some final, talk some LeBron.

Doesn't get much better than that. Absolutely. No, it's a good conversation. No, I got finals talk, man. We got, yeah. It's, yeah. Name four. All the way.

No body bags, no cabs. No body bag. No alien embryos. Just the customary. This all. No, incubated alien embryos for us all. They all on the side right now. All right.

So predictions. Are we, we, we have show tomorrow. I'm saying, but I just want to know. I got Knicks. All right. We'll see if it changes by tomorrow. He got San Antonio. I got this.

Because he's just one. No, it's not even that. It's just. Look at the pressure. Look at the pressure, bro. They just, they answer the call, man. They did. They answers the call, and these young dudes

been doing it all year, man. So I'm going to go with the Spurs on game four. What's your overall prediction? I got Knicks in six. I said Knicks in five. So you got the Knicks going to win game five at San Antonio? Yeah. But I got them win.

That's tough. You got them in six, though, right? I do. But they're going to win game four. And San Antonio will win game five. Okay, I mean. Closing in six. No chance.

I got them in five. I picked the Knicks in five. Yeah, you did. So, you know he got seven. Oh, you know it's five. I got to stand on my one side, you know what I'm saying? I'm not going to flip-flop, and bend this close. I'm gonna still celebrate with if the Knicks win. But I'm gonna ride with... Both teams, like I said, Tim. I'm gonna ride with him.

Seven. Game four must win, man. Version seven, man. It's a bus win for both squads. It's a bus win for both squads, which is hard to do, but it's a both wins for both teams. Everybody must win in life. So which game do you? have the Knicks winning then.

I got to win one more. They got to win game four. Oh, you got Knicks in game four? No, I got Spurs game four. Okay. Nicks game five. All right. Spurs game six and game seven.

Okay. But that's not an overall prediction. So you think you're going to rank to that. Mohammed's leave over LeBron James as a greatest athlete. If a man wants to become Muhammad. It depends on who you, depends on who's doing the polar. Christiana Ronaldo is a greater athlete than LeBron, bro. Right.

It depends on the audience. I think we need that. We need a top 10, we need a top 50 athletes of the century. You just got to do all, of all time. I mean, okay. The most, I mean, because you got guys Jackie Roberts and you got guys that went to the Olympics. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure.

It's a lot of shit. For sure, for sure. Michael Phelps got more rings and jings and things on them. Yeah, I'm saying, you got him, you got fucking Jim Thorpews. This, I'm just like, you got, you got, um, uh, um, um, um, um, I'm drawing the blank. Went to Jesse Owens.

Hussie Owens. Houssey Owens. Shout out of Jesse. Man. Out there's Jamaican basketball. Shout out. Who's the greatest athlete of all the time. Played all the sports.

La Crosse football, basketball, Jim Brown. Like, you guys, listen. There's some athletes, influential people that did it, man. Shout out Dave Winfield as well. Dave Winfield. You love.

Could they get it across multiple sports. Hey. People forget about him. They do. They talk about greatest athletes and multiple sport guy, Dave Winfield. Man, Michael Beasel.

You can't. Day Winfield. Third Knicks. you can't leave out. Michael Beesley. It deserves to be in the conversation. It's a lot of influential, like... Dave Winfield.

Yeah. Appreciate everybody in the chat. Appreciate everybody on this couch. This has been another episode of Gills Arena presented by Underdog. Whoa, whoa, whoa. See y'all tomorrow.