Gil's Arena - The Suns & Warriors' HOT START Fires Up Gil's Arena

Episode Date: November 5, 2024

The Phoenix Suns & Golden State Warriors HOT START Fires Up Gil's Arena as Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Crew react to The Suns & Warriors getting off to a 6-1 start to open up the 2025 NBA Season and debate if these teams led by Kevin Durant, Steph Curry, Devin Booker and Draymond Green are for real as they strive to take control of the NBA's Western Conference. They also react to KD taking a page out of Cemetery Larry's book by sparking a hostile beef with Stephen A Smith and discuss if the media mogul crossed the line by making his criticism of the NBA legend too personal. Next, they break down Paul George's return to action by making his debut for the Philadelphia 76ers where he waved off a red hot Tyrese Maxey to take and miss the last shot of the game. The Gil's Arena Crew debates if this was the right move by PG in his first game back and ponder if chemistry issues are on the horizon for the 76ers as Maxey now has to take a backseat to Paul George and Joel Embiid after carrying the team in their absense. Finally, Gil & the Crew GO CRAZY over Ja Morant's highlight reel night full of 360 layups and react to the news that San Antonio Spurs head coach Gregg Popovich will be sidelined indefinitely due to health issues. Please leave us a like and subscribe!!! Gil's Arena Crew - Gilbert Arenas, Josiah Johnson, Kenyon Martin, & Rashad McCants Gil's Arena Merch is Available NOW at http://gilsarenamerch.com/ Use code GIL10 for 10% off your SeatGeek order https://seatgeek.onelink.me/RrnK/GIL10 Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get up to $1000 in Bonus Cash and A FREE Pick: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena SUBSCRIBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAvjYgmwadC682OoC4Cc6TQ Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos! https://discord.gg/underdog Intro 0:00:00 Show Start 0:02:05 Grant Williams Takes A Run At Tatum 0:06:00 Foul Baiting In Today's NBA 0:20:42 Paul George's Questionable Last Shot 0:42:41 The Phoenix Suns' RED HOT Start 0:57:55 KD is Beefing with Stephen A Smith 1:10:35 Jordan Poole & Draymond Go At Eachother 1:54:00 Jordan Poole is Finally Thriving 2:08:58 Breaking News - Joel Embiid Suspended 2:16:46 MostlyFans 2:32:35 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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and former teammate Grant Williams this past weekend. Boston played back-to-back games at Charlotte on Friday and Saturday. And in game one, Williams was called for a flagrant two and ejected for this play on Tatum. We've got the video. Let's take a look. Oh.

You know. Tatum dribbled the ball off the court. Williams gave him a hockey check, sending both players crashing to the ground. Did not appear like Grant was trying to make a play on the ball. Uncertain what was going on in his mind on that play. I'm trying to fuck him up. This is odd because Tatum and Williams are known to be good friends off the court. Since their days as teammates on the Celtics,

Tatum just bounced up. Didn't try and elevate the incident. But after the game, there were different interpretations of the foul. Let's start with Grant Williams' assessment. I think it was more so he didn't see me more than anything else. I was like, I'm reaching him. I definitely made contact with his body before I reached. But probably a hard foul. Definitely not intentional.

Not trying to hurt him by the means. We all know that's one of my closest friends in the league. And as you see, he got up and just walked away. And then I got up and asked for help. So he raised my hand like I thought it was a foul. JB kind of escalated it. But Andre J is trying to protect his teammate and stuff like that. But that's my dog.

That is my dog. So according to Williams, no big deal. Jalen Brown felt differently about the play. Here's what he said in postgame. It was for sure intentional. Whatever you talk about, y'all see the same play that I was seeing? He hit him like it was a football play. Like Ray Lewis coming across the middle or something.

It is what it is. Grant no better than that. So Brown was upset, but Tatum would not answer any questions about Grant Williams. He instead proceeded to drop 32 and 29 points respectively in back-to-back wins at Charlotte. But the play even got the attention of Draymond Green, who tweeted this.

Thinking a blindside hit on your man is a smile-worthy offense means one of two things. You have zero awareness or you a goofy and both make you a goofy. We know Draymond's past track record. Very interesting that he also has some commentary on it. But probably not the person to speak on the situation, but he did. Twitter is free for all. So Kenya, was the Grant Williams foul a dirty play or an accident? Speak on the situation, but he did. Twitter is free for all.

So, Kenya, was the Grant Williams foul a dirty play or an accident? Definitely wasn't an accident. Yeah, no, he meant to hit that man that way, man. Homeboy or not, he meant to do it. So, yeah, I've given out hard fouls. I don't think I ran through AI that way. Many people have pointed out there's a video. And we was teammates after me and him became close. We've talked about this before, but obviously you played the game with fire intensity.

Yeah. But there's still a level of respect. Yeah, for your so-called homeboys or your, like, he called them friends. Brotherhood. Yeah, no, it was definitely intentional. So a lot of people on the Internet have pointed to a video of, I think it was Grant Williams

in the locker room trying to dap up Deuce Deuce wasn't having it so that may have been a precursor to this situation Deuce already knew what time it was

with Grant Williams but Sean let's move over to this side kids sense your energy bruh they listen no kids listen to their parents

kids listen to their parents we don't fuck with them like that Deuce we don't fuck with him like that, dude. We don't fuck with him. Sean, as a former diehard Celtics fan, what do you think about this whole situation with Graham Williams and Tatum?

I take my cue from the leader, and the leader says he knows better than that. Leader being Jalen Brown in this situation. I'm just speaking from what I see. Speaking from what I see. Hey, man, of course it was. The leader of the team. Because, I mean, we're witnessing what happens in practice.

We've been with this dude. We know how he functions, and he's out of pocket, and he's out of his body. Maybe he's a little excited from playing against us now, two games in a row. Cool. You were a little excited. I get it.

And you're mad. I'm bawling. Cool. But, yeah, he out of pocket completely I think we got a perfect grant with great do it off the court Friendly nice always got chance to interview him a couple times, but it seems like he'll snap on occasion He flipped that switch, but good. What did you think about this situation? You got any issue with Grant Williams flagrant to on his former teammate Jason Tatum. I

Don't think he meant to hurt him, right? I mean, it wasn't an accident, right? It was intentional, but I don't think the intention was I want to hurt him. Just, you know, sometimes, you know, stubby buff motherfuckers like that don't. They don't know how strong they are sometimes, right? It might just be, you know, there's one of those like, ah, you know what I mean? One of those, ah,

get out of bounds. Oh, shit. Throw your body around. The creatine kicked in. I think that's what that is. You see it all the time. You know, PJ Tuck, you know, sometimes. PJ was one of them guys. Throw your body around.

Trying to stop the foul. Knocked him into the third row and he's like, come on, man, stop acting. You're acting, man. Nah, he's just skinny, you know. You know, yeah, so it was one of those. That's how Rude was. Rude was just like that. Rude was just like that. Reggie Evans, you know.

You see him harassing with him, hit you in the mouth. Damn, my tooth. Damn, my tooth. Hold on. Damn, my tooth. I didn't know you was going to leave with your face. My eye. True. Usually I jump like this.

Dre is definitely one of them. He's one of those, man. So it's a little bit of what Draymond said. And a little, you're goofy at the same time. It happens, man. You know, and I got to go off the energy of, you know, Tatum, right? If, you know, if he didn't think it was worth talking about, then,

you know, it is what it is. And in the moment, why the ref grabbing Jason Tatum in the moment? Like, he's walking away from me. Because you feel, oh, he got hit. Oh, let me grab him. He's like, man, get your fucking hands off me. Because, you know, at the end of the day, it's about how the game was going, so I don't think that it was going down that road for if

Jason Tatum is like, you since when motherfuckers fucking with you all game. All game, yeah. So this is just a one off, one off, you know, stop the break, tie the foul, and then just. But is Tatum not saying something, saying something? Yes. Yeah.

It's saying, you know, but I think like, it's almost like Jaylen Brown being an interpreter for Jason like hey man, you know better than that like what was the conversation after any anything? That I've just walked to yeah walked away Usually like if it's going back and forth you hit me and we gonna sit there and talk and yeah Like it's been going on for two three minutes, you know, obviously this just seems like it was just a one-off Yeah, I just I mean even for like Draymond come on man, I don't need you to vouch Stop it. I think that was my favorite part. So he knows. Yeah. He knows. Either way, you're goofy. You're goofy.

You're goofy. Was in practice, obviously. They didn't know that the tape would leak just during the game. They all get over it, though. They all get over it. Stop it. When we asked the chat, was Grant Williams flagrant foul? Tatum was intentional, just a hard foul.

68% said intentional. Chat, been on the majority today. Intentionally a hard foul. 68% said intentional. Chat has been on the majority today. Intentionally a hard foul. Could a foul like that alter a friendship? Yeah. And one of your friend fouls you like that, KD? Random? Nah, because we got to.

We just going to talk about it. Like, yo, what you was on? Yeah. I might get up and look at you. Yo. Was that for you for real? Damn. Goofy motherfucker.

I knew you was goofy, but you ain't stupid, are you? Now, you know the friendship ending ones. Those are the ones, like, you can see it coming, too. Like, you can see it in the eye. Like, is this motherfucker about the clothesline? It looked different. It just looked different, right? The speed. Like, running too fast. Like You know how you're running on the side, you can see them sizing you up, and you're like,

hold on, you ain't slowing down. You ain't slowing down. This is getting scary. This is getting scary. This is when you're supposed to stop. I'm about to take off, man. No. I might run straight out of bounds.

Oh, okay. All right. Drop the ball. Drop the ball. That one. Drop it. Shit. So we're talking about the ball.

We're talking about the ball. We're talking about the ball. We're talking about the ball. We're talking about the ball. We're talking oh, okay, all right. Drop the ball. Drop the ball. That one, drop it. Shit. So we talk about this air being soft nowadays. Is this just, is Graham Williams trying to get rid of that narrative that light-skinned dudes aren't with it?

No. No. But I wasn't here. I think y'all discussed it. What Missoula say, they should bring back. What did Missoula say? They should bring back fighting. Joe Missoula did say that. Graham Williams said, hey, we can do it.

We can do it, sir. Right. And you know who he played for, right? I do know, King. Who? Joe Missoula played for Bob Huggins. West Virginia? Yeah, West Virginia.

Bob Huggins a fan of? Fighting? Fist of Cuffs and whatnot? Oh, he ain't have a problem with it. Not like he said no. I'm not going to support him. He's got no problem. I think I told y'all this story.

I don't want to call a gentleman's name. Like my freshman year, like one of my first few practices after I got eligible, there's a loose ball in the starting center on the team. I'm a freshman, he's a senior. And it's a loose ball and he pushed me. To go get it.

And I skid my hands and my knees on the floor. Right? It's a good one too. Good one. I'm 19, just got eligible, fresh out of Oak Cliff. I hop up real fast and I'm like, what the fuck you... And before I get my words out, he threw his hands up. What's that?

6'10", big white boy. Like, listen, he threw his hands up, and before I knew it, I didn't... I mean, I must have hit him six, seven times, dog. And my head coach at the time told him he said his name god damn it protect yourself put your hands up yo you put your hands up you know what that means dog i'm a freshman so it told me everything i needed to know in that moment right oh this is acceptable around here as long as i'm showing up like but i was one of my first few practice that Cincinnati though

I had just got eligible in December like this is I got January when I was able to practice one of my first few practices and Yeah, so Bob Huggins didn't mind so I'm pretty sure The Missoula said that he's had a few probably back altercations in practice because he don't smile. But the other thing is this, though. It's like when you know what it can do to your locker room when you got a bunch of prima donnas walking around, they need to fight each other. Oh, it's funny you use that word.

Oh, he used to call it. Listen, dog. Prima donnas. Hey, listen, man. The coaches love that word. I can't say it because it's frowned upon now what P.U. is called. You prima donna motherfucker, man. The coaches love that word. I can't say it because it's frowned upon now what P.U.'s called. You prima donna motherfucker, you.

I'd be like, damn. Yes. Listen, man. You got to talk so nasty. Yo, you got to say all that. You got to talk so nasty to me like that. Jeez, I didn't do nothing. Hey, man, I used to be in it because, listen,

because, you know, y'all, I played basketball a certain way. We all know it. I showed up, I played hard. That was my M.O. from day one. So the things I used to get on players about, it never applied to me. So I used to sit back and watch this dog daily and laugh. And we'd be at halftime of them games, man.

I used to sit in the first locker, dog. And I used to just sit there and watch the show. Man. Him throwing shit up against the wall, fucking whole cans of fucking Diet Dr. Pepper and shit, man. I'm in that motherfucker. No, not the Diet Dr. Pepper, man. Listen, man.

Yo. Don't waste the Diet Dr. Pepper. Dog shit going everywhere. I'm in that motherfucker, dog. That's the DDP. I'm right and laughing. And you better not look at me in the locker room. You're going to get in trouble.

Uh-huh. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, because you look at me, I'm laughing. You with him. You with him. Oh, I'm going to get you in trouble. He hated in the locker room. You're going to get in trouble. Uh-huh. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, because you look at me, I'm laughing. You with him. You with him. Oh, I'm going to get you in trouble. He hated you. Yes, I'm going to get you in trouble.

Don't look at him. Don't look at him. Don't sit beside him. You better not, because I'm going to tap you. You sit beside me. I'm going to tap you. You're in Ms. Gardner's class. Kenyon.

Yes. Kenyon. Problem child. Absolutely. Office now. Yes, absolutely. The tap and the lean back. The tap and the lean. I ain't with me. Wait, absolutely. Office now. Yes, absolutely. The tap and the lean back. The tap and the lean back.

I ain't with me. Wait, dog. I'm just kidding. So I'm going to say something that ain't nobody else going to hear, dog. And he going to look at you like. You point. Look, it was him.

No, no, no. I ain't going to. He going to look at you. I'm going to look this way. Mm. Dog, listen, man. This man used to, dog. He messed with Ryan Fletcher one day, dog. He fucking with Fletch.

Oh shit, I remember Fletch. Man, Fletch went in there and knocked the bathroom stall door off the hinges. I went in there, motherfucker. I looked at that bitch, hugged her, stood there drinking her soda. I went out to lock her up. I said, you probably don't want to fuck with Fletch today. This man done dismantled this goddamn stall in here, man.

Somebody can take, some of them can take and some of them can't. Once a prima donna, always one. No, this is four years. This is like freshman year to senior year

of him riding the shit out of fletch. Mm-mm-mm. You said something when you was explaining. You said this era's soft, right? I said that's what the mentality you said this era soft, right? I said that's that's what the Mentality is about this era people say a lot of people see it

When they when they say soft, what do they actually mean? Exactly, just the flop. I can you know me today The flopping the one uh-huh the fact that they call the shit for two so the fashion Buddy buddy they point to because the refs call it flopping. Okay for one it just they've Since the whole freedom of movement thing came into play right mm-hmm. We were still a part of the league then mm-hmm They've taken that to the next level You know how we used to be like, God damn, there ain't no foul. It is so bad now. Automatic now.

Right? Okay, the problem with that is, because it fucked up the movement of the game. The free throws and the fouls says a different thing. It probably does. Because it's coming from a league thing. You know the league can go through saying we're going to call more fouls the first half

of the season than we are going to second half because we want to implement this new rule. We're going to now make that. Yes, it balances out. They can do those things. But what I'm saying is,

what does the free throw say? For the 2020s, they're averaging 22 free throws a game. Okay. In our era? Our era, the 10, the 2000s, they're averaging 22 free throws a game. Okay. And our era? Our era, the 10, the 2000s, we were averaging

25. Okay. It was more physical. The 90s, I mean the 80s. So they blew the ball. The whistleboard. The 80s, they averaged 29 free throws a game. See, so these tough eras that they're talking about, they're blowing the whistle. But why? Because we were actually going to the lane. We were actually having contact.

The best contact. No, no. And so the three ball. And they're shooting more threes. They're shooting more threes so now there's no. There's less free throws. That's why there's less free throws. Yeah, but when people talk about, oh they just call a whistle and these guys average more free throws. Like no.

No, they don't average more free throws. I don't think that's what he's saying. They're shooting so many, like the 80s. Yeah, they don't average more free throws, but they shoot more threes. And it's just the way that the game has been. We like the freedom of the game and it's like it's too much

that the whistle is blowing on bullshit. Yes. God damn, let these dudes play. And then then you mr. Fucking obvious files, right? So it's that that that's the frustration part from guys who like we play we know the game we watch we won't enjoy the game The fans will enjoy the game the fans have been watching the game for a long time But like damn let them play that I'm right So and the flopping aspect of it, for them to have to implement fines for flopping says a lot.

But do you feel like guys weren't flopping in the 80s, 90s? Yes. They didn't know how. They put one on Vlade Divac. Gil was one of the first. Like certain guys. They put one on Vlade Divac. He was one of the first foul baiters.

Gil was a foul baiter. Like certain guys, yes. You had to look at him in a different way. But I'm saying to look at him, but I had a different way I know what I'm saying is they had to look at you a different way than everyone else because you were more Susceptible so the flop out but the flop was this oh You get you strip you You're not that's the you when you go to the bathroom you and you throw the ball up Yeah, that's the flop that it has gotten so out of control.

Yeah, Luka's looking for a call every time down. Every time they drive, they think it's a foul. Hey, look, Joker, every time, they're looking at the ref. Like, come on, come on. Every time. It's like every time, bro. But Brian, even Brian, you know better. Bro, you every, come on, bro.

You the one dude with the biggest body. You got all this. You to be the one like, hey, man, y'all can foul me all day long. It's going to be a long day. I'm not even looking at the refs. What was you taught to play through what? Play through contact. Play through contact.

Yep. They don't do that. Because I know you're going to call it. See, that's the problem. If we go to the gym and we say no calls. No calls. Then we're going to play basketball. We're going to play ball. But now I know you're going to call it. See, that's the problem. If we go to the gym and we say, no calls. No calls. Then we're going to play basketball. We're going to play ball.

But now I know. Then there's a dude that can't come because he got to call a foul. See, that's the problem. But what I'm saying is. We know they're going to call it. We know they're going to call it. But that's why I'm saying it's like you're penalizing the brilliancy of an offensive player understanding rules and human behavior, right? So if I know

if shot has to guard me, what does he want to do with me? Be physical. Be physical. Yes. I know this. So I'm going to always do something,

get away from him, get close, knowing he's going to chuck, then I'm going to come up. Okay. But that's not the softness that we're talking about. We're not talking about you.

We're talking about you being soft. But I'm going to foul bait him knowing he's going to come up. Okay. But that's not the softness that we're talking about. We're not talking about that. But I'm going to foul bait him knowing he's going to try to use physical strength. That's not you being soft. That's not you being soft. That's fine. You being soft is going and complaining about the types of fouls that are happening. It's like, yeah, I'm fouling you, my nigga. Cool. I'm fine.

I'm fouling you. God bless you, bro. But what I'm saying is, I'm'm fouling you, my nigga. Cool. I'm fine. God bless you, bro. But what I'm saying is, I'm not fouling you in a way where... But I'm saying, let's say you're picking me up full court, right? You're picking me up full court, right? My job is to make him believe you fouling me.

Absolutely. Come on. Come on, ref. Come on, ref. Goddamn. Come on, ref. Damn. Come on. But instead of just... But instead of you baiting me damn. But instead of just like, this is my thing. But instead of you baiting me to foul, instead of just making me foul you,

I'm calling you soft because you're looking for a foul. Yeah. Right. I'm calling you because you're not playing ball. You're not playing ball. You're literally trying for five seconds to get me to foul you. And I'm like, yo, can we play? I'm like, can we play?

It's no different than I'm pumped. So, yeah, so if you got a pump fake dummy, you're going to use it, right? So that's the same thing with him playing a deal. So you're going to use what you have to your advantage to get me off of you. If I ain't going for it, it's off. But going down the court, I'm playing good deal,

and you just, ah, y'all. Every time. Come on, dude. He's going to be pissed at you. But then I'm going to foul you for real. Yeah, for sure. I'm going to foul gonna be pissed but then i'm gonna fire you for real for sure but i'm gonna fire you for real but then you did everything i wanted anyway no you did because i found you a lot harder than you want but i made it hurt i made it hurt and we're looking at you like no but when i'm saying i'm gonna look at him i'm gonna raise my hand better than that

but what i'm saying is but i got the foul on him. I know. You did your job. I got the job. I'm proud of the foul. But as a referee, but as a referee, if you know I'm doing that, then your job is to not fall for it. Absolutely. Right? So I've seen Tony.

I've seen Tony when I was with Orlando. Yeah, 1,000%. I watched Tony. Tony made Dwight play actual basketball. Because, you know, Dwight's going to play physical and try to use the bump so he can go up. And he was like, I'm not calling it. Don't look.

Hey, don't call. No. You want to use brute strength? I'm going to let him play defense with brute strength. Yeah. Use skill. Then if he fouls you, I will call it. If you're gonna try to use physical strength

to try to push through him, I'm gonna let him use physical strength to stop you. So I'm not calling shit. Learn how to play basketball. And he'll just be like this. He won't even have this. He'll just... You're talking about Tony Brothers, right?

Tony Brothers. Okay, just for the fans out there. So now I'm watching Dwight get frustrated. Now he has to learn how to play. Like, ah. Now I can't just go through. But here's my thing. Like, he's sitting there playing that, and it's like, okay, there you go.

Now that's a foul. We have our perspective as players, right? So we sit here. We can say they're soft or they're not. You have your argument. We got ours, right? But the fans, what are the fans saying? Are the fans saying, man, saying are the fans saying man?

They soft as hell out there. Why y'all playing so soft? Why is it and a big man can be down there and get get fouled? two dribbles into his move Cuz what they don't know how to play defense or is it too soft? Why is you falling all over the floor like you being pushed down you 300 pounds? I think fans complain a lot about foul-baiting just because it slows the game down. But when you look at guys like James Harden, guys like Trey Young, who are considered the biggest foul-baiters, offenders there,

like, I appreciate the way that James can manipulate the rules to get fouled. I get it. But we talking about soft, though. We not even talking about the... But what you talking about, you have a valid point. We're talking about... Trae Young can't be a soft player if he likes to go in and take contact.

So if you're soft, it means that you're... Like MPJ, Michael Porter Jr. He would be considered soft. Because he has a size and a strength and an advantage that he doesn't use. Yes. So it wouldn't be about fouling more than it is about you're not even going to get fouled. I think back when we called soft, it was guys who jumped away from contact, right?

They were scared to get hit, right? They're like, I'm doing everything but get hit. I'm coming off two feet, you jump. Instead of jumping into each other, I'm fading away. I'm like, come like come on man stop being soft man get that file yeah like you know i mean fast break keying down there i'm gonna pull it out right back out i'm gonna throw i'm gonna throw a a a a floater and you don't even float right because you don't want you don't want to get hit that was considered like what we called soft like Your ability, you're not using. You're scared to do stuff.

So think about what we're saying. He's saying the three-pointers. We're shooting way too many three-pointers. That means we're not going to the lane. So we can't actually go create contact because we're shooting more threes. That would automatically mean that you're a lot more softer than we were because you'd rather shoot a three than go get contact at the rim. But, or are you shooting a three because it's worth three?

We know it's worth three. I'm going to say it. But you shoot 22% and that's worth three. I was watching the game last night. Bradley Beal had a one-on-one on the break. Pulled it up. Shot the three? Yeah.

So, I was like, wow. That's sub. Like, sub. Soon as the ball got out of bounds, sub. He looking over. You. I got you. That was cool.

Now, my thing is even with the threes, I don't know who's calculating and how it made sense, right? Because there was no threes in the 60s, but they averaged 116 points a game. Playing fast as hell. Had to be. But they averaged a hundred and sixteen points a game Like so what would be like I mean so whatever your whatever your statistics it doesn't make sense because when there was no 3d average more points in you guys and Then it was only fucking layups in mid-range. Hmm Right, it's only layups in mid-range. So you're averaging 115 as a league, it's hard to say what you're saying actually makes sense.

Yeah, I get it, but it's... Yeah, it's... I got a text this morning from a prominent trainer that trains a lot of prominent players. Okay. Half of the battle is playing hard. A lot of dudes be out here just playing cool. Shit is whack and they lazy as fuck. Move your body hard and explosively while being under control with it. Offensively, guys have to feel like guarding you is going to hurt and it's going to be a long night.

This is in reference to guys not only being lazy, but being soft. Okay. Prominent trainer. Unnamed source. Unnamed source. Even A. Smith. You heard the dude? Nah, fuck that.

His name. You know what it is, too? Tell us your source shot. I don't see very many tacticians in the NBA. Right? Explain to the folks. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's yeah let's say you know king you're down there you got two fouls right i don't see players just like kenyan has two they're keeping him in let's get him out of this quarter because if he gets his third foul in the first quarter, we don't have

to see him again to the third. Third quarter, facts. Right? So that means he gets out now, he's not in here the second quarter to affect the game defensively, and then we'll see him in the third. They'll let you play the whole goddamn half and don't even attack

you. At all. Got off clean. Like, let's say i took you to the lane two times made layups and then you back up i'm not shooting a fucking jump shot fuck you i'm coming up what's happening right away right there they're gonna chuck it like why are you belt he literally can't guard you why are you guarding yourself why are you settling is it coaching is it training what no that's a place No, that's a player. Is it player? That's a player.

What if he don't know? That's. What if he don't? Again, he's not a tactician. Don't he have to be taught that at some point in his career? No, you got to come on. That's called studying. That's what I'm saying.

You have to either teach yourself or somebody teach you. That when you got two in a row with going at them, your third one cannot be a settled jumper. You can't shoot no jumper somebody gotta tell you that you know jumper how you doing you better make up you better right once you tell him and he don't know he'd do it again then you know what you're dealing with but if he and that if you tell him and he go do it that third time he attack again you're like all right that's what you're supposed to do young fella don't bail him out don't bail him out there'd be an impunity with eight minutes left shooting three.

How? What's wrong with you? Like, what? You're in the penalty. That means they can't touch you. Can't touch me. Right? They touch you at the 94.

They touch you, picking you up, free throw. You get to walk down there. Ultra aggressive. You're being ultra aggressive. I'm trying. That's when you do the baiting. That's when you bait. That's when you bait. When you win the bonus.

Yes. I'm baiting you like crazy. And I wouldn't even call you soft because I know the circumstances. It's penalty. He can't touch you. Can't touch you. I'm about to make sure he get his third foul. And whoever check in going to get their first. Like coming off of down screen. Remember, come on. I'm going to fake this way. Grab, grab. Hey!

Run them into the screen. As soon as I start shooting, what they do? off of down screen, remember, come on, I'm going to fake this way, grab, grab you. Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Run him into the screen. As soon as I start screaming A, what they do? Like, I learned that from seeing Reggie, learned that from, um... Rip. Rip, right? You sitting there holding on, and he's screaming A. Then as soon as he say, hey, you do this, take off.

Like, God damn it. Go on. Go on. You're supposed to be connected to the hip. Yeah, you connected to the nigga's feet. Uh-uh. Your hands off. Take off. Yeah.

Right? And that was the game right there. Yeah. Right? If he can get that scream of holding. Got one on you. I'm shooting free throws. I got one on you.

But they're too busy just chucking. Everybody want to chuck side threes. Like, yo. Yes. This man got two fouls. Y'all in a penalty. You got six fouls, man. Attack. Go to the... Whats y'all in a penalty you got six fouls man attack go to the date There's what are y'all doing bro free throw stop the clock?

That's the beautiful thing about basketball that we all know and that's why I always love watching you play cuz as a tactician The real hoopers don't know You use your ability with your mind at the same time and And when you do that, you get advantages on the court where it's like, man, where we at? I got one more foul for the penalty. We're about to run what? All right, I'm going to run. Okay, I'm going to get off this.

I'm going to get this quick foul. We're going to not only go on the penalty. He got two fouls. He can't afford to get no more fouls. None of the team can foul me anymore. Kenyon got three. He can't play. Now we're thinking of the game totally different.

How many players are playing like that right now that we see go in the game and look, time and score. Two for one. Thirty-five seconds on the clock. Yeah. Let me make it happen. I get a foul, not a quick shot, but a strategic shot where I get a foul, get two free throws, they go down,

and we get the ball back again I don't know when the last time I seen this move Let's say Joker has two fouls in the first and he's running and it's on the fast break and he's sitting there running like this I've never seen one person say you got two fouls a ref ref ref and then stop ready Boom and say, you got two fouls, hey ref, ref, ref, and then stop right in front of you. Oh, man, take the card. Boom! They tried. They tried.

Oh, I haven't seen it. You can do an attack all the time. Are you kidding? Yeah! Big dunk. Come on down here. Boom! Out three, get your big ass out. Yeah.

So Houston played New York, was it yesterday? Yeah. So they was going at Cat. Cat had four. They were trying to, he had picked up three together. He got his fourth. Well, they had to have O.J. and Anobi guarding Sangoon because they was trying, listen,

wherever Carl Anthony Towns' ass was, they were hunting his ass out. With Sangoon? Yeah, wherever he was yesterday, they was hunting his ass out on the defensive end. I'm like, yo. But that's how you're supposed to do it. Yeah.

Right? You're supposed to do it. Like, I remember, we're in a penalty, man. Look, this is how the early 2000s was. That sixth foul come up there, and there's four minutes left. Everybody backdoored. Because you know, back then, hey, anybody cut across,

ride them up, chuck them. Oh, yeah, he about to chuck them. I remember, I remember. Ah! And you flopped there. That's what you flop on now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I wasn't wasting no...

You wasn't no Tucker? No, no, everybody be mad. Hey, look, you know... I'm not wasting no... I'm not wasting no fouls on no Chucks. Antoine James is about to get him a little post up. I done ran into somebody, got my little foul. And then he ain't got the ball no more.

Now I get two free throws? Yes, sir. My bad, bro. My bad, bro. Little back cut. You don't pass the ball. Little back cut. Yeah, I'm not getting, not on, nah, yeah.

I used to waste them all the time. Not on no Chucks. Oh, you didn't have a Chuck? Yeah, I used to. I'm on the ball too much. I used to love a good't know. Yeah, I used to waste them off I'm on the ball. He's a he's a love a good chucker. Yeah. Yeah, I can't wait. I can't wait. I was always help side Guys come to I used to I'm I'm a I put my hand Unless I really don't fuck with you What if it was in a scouting report you got Chuck this guy? No, I'm not Probably route you like oh, yeah Smart defenders really good defenders who needed their six fouls they not

But I'm ask it like some guys I'm at like Ray Allen in Seattle, but you were running around I'm like I need I need you to tuck them bro, but that's I'm saying but go down but you was coming on I get this way you didn't care about your 6'5". No, I was a fan of mine. Yeah, I was a fan of yours. See, this is what I would do. Instead of that, like, just say, I would probably be,

well, I couldn't, if Shaquille O'Neal was there, I couldn't lose. You was going Rashard? So, yeah. So, if Ray come off my side, we just switch. On the top side.

Either way, I'm just going to switch. You're going to be the high bid. Yeah. Either way, I'm going to invert it. Yep. If they start to play, if I know where it is, I'm just gonna be the high big. Yeah, either way. I'm gonna invert it Yep, if they start to play if I know it is I'm gonna invert it. Mm-hmm. So I'm sending them to you Yeah, I'm gonna tell you to bring him my way right

Yeah, but if I'm off the ball if I'm guarding just say if I was guarding Reggie, okay at the four and he's setting it I'm not even going guard. I'm not I ain't nowhere near Reggie. I'm gonna get in Ray Allen wait You're not gonna chuck him. You like this way. I go around go around and slow him up, right? See my instead of me wasting my fire him hitting him in his chest and him fucking falling out just a wall I'm gonna be under gonna get in his way Let you catch up to him was him him leaving his guy available at that point? There was only a few. It was him, Ben Wallace, Reggie.

Shit, at the five, Dwight. Dwight. The other four. Theo. There was only a couple fours that had the ability to just reroute you. Like, ah, come on. I'm going to go to the other side.

Like, you'll see Brendan Haywood. You're like, like no not his side We don't see today at all. No chucking. No, not even nobody They didn't even screen us cross screen. You don't see no cross screens. No diagonal screens No, none of that. Remember we used to have to chuck the big we did the cross the cross screen or the diagonal screen. No, no, no, no, no, no. That's how you got a charge on the big. I got my face boom, all that. Yeah.

Yeah. I'm about to make it to the screen. You'd love to be on the team with me then. I start doing this. They'd be like, all right, go set the cross screen from Kenyon. No. No, see the thing is, see? No, no, see, no, see the thing is, see, no, see, see, all wrong, see, you get all wrong, brother.

I'm finna tell you how I guard across screens, so everybody else guard, they meet shit and ride your high. No, I don't even worry, if you're setting the screen, I don't even worry about you. I turn my back to you. Turn my back to the screener. Whichever way the guy go, I just fucking go with him. Or you can ride him over. If he go low, I go lowever way the guy go, I just fucking go with him. Or you can ride him over. If he go low, I go low.

If he go high, I go high. Put my back to the screener. How far can you screen me? You keep pushing, you're going to run into your own man because I'm going with him. Either way it goes. I just turn my back to the screen, wherever the screen is. He go high, I go high with him. He go low, I go with him.

I'm not, meet you, go beat you on the other side, now you got spell. No, no, no. I'm keeping my body on your body. That's what we were taught. They connected. But that's, I do it all the time. He wasn't going 2-9. Oh, he stayed connected.

He stayed connected. Everybody else is, the big is trying to help you. I know fucking cross screen coverage, man, no. Cross screen coverage, I got it. That's why we always did nene. We always got nene with the cross He was the one always get they did this shit to the traditional way meet you and care And you supposed to meet the guy on the other side. No, I'm not getting my body off of Kevin Garnett Just not gonna do I'm not letting you get into my body and let fucking Eldon Brand get a deep post though yeah but it's certain ways you have to guard certain guys that I wish I wish I would let Z Bo get a duck in right bottom yeah I have an advantage over Zach that's how he's held of a basketball player but I

have a quickness and athletic advantage over that if I let him D he's strong as hell if I let him meet me and and as hell. If I let him meet me and seal me right up, I'm supposed to meet him on the other side. He's sealed right up under the basket. He's just going to

fucking do this. I'm dead. Because they're running the play one way because they're not running it the other way. They're going so he can get that motherfucker

and go quick, right? I'm not going to meet him on the other side so he can seal me up underneath the basket. I'm dead meat. I'm going to stand to his body. I'm going to meet him on the side so you can see me up underneath the basket. I'm dead meat I'm a stand to his body. I'm gonna meet the screen with my back because if you hit me it's an illegal screen if you

Mmm, dude, unless I don't I'm a lady if you do it so much and I turn around now That's the last thing Me to meet you with, like, yeah. That's real. Let's keep this thing moving, but I always love... Real basketball talk. Real basketball talk. I like... We talk about it every now and again.

Every now and again. No, we do it consistently here in the arena, but let's head over and talk about some stuff going on with the Sixers. So, nine-time All-Star Paul George made his debut with the Sixers last night in a loss against the Suns after missing the first five games of the season while recovering from a bone bruise he suffered in the preseason. So, PG will also make his return to L.A. on Wednesday as he takes on the Clippers for the first time since dipping to Philly

in free agency this summer. But against the Suns, PG scored 15 points, going 4-for-14 from the field, including 1- 7 from 3. Also added 5 rebounds and 4 assists, 32 minutes of action. While PG struggled to get it going, Tyrese Maxey had another big night, celebrating his 24th birthday by dropping 32 points on 12 for 21 shooting and 41 minutes of action. But we've got to go to a questionable moment at the end of the game. So after KD hit the go-ahead bucket with 24 seconds remaining,

PG took the ball off the court and ended up trying to take the game-tying shot. Long two, even though Maxie had the hot hand last night and is the team's number one option until B's return. Long rebound came out to Maxie, but he didn't get a shot off in time either way. So some of you may recall PG said the hot hand would be taking the last shot on an episode of Podcast P with

Chet Holmgren this past summer. Let me try and fuck up y'all chemistry. Y'all need a bucket, end of the game. Who's shooting the game on the shot? You or Joe? Uh. That's funny. That's a Nick Nurse question. I'm going to deflect that to Nick Nurse. Okay, that's a PR answer. That's hilarious. Whoever Nick a Nick Nurse question. I'm going to deflect that to Nick Nurse. Okay. That's a PR answer.

That's hilarious. Whoever Nick Nurse draw it up for, we're going to get the best shot. Okay. That's a good answer. I'm going to continue to fuck up the chemistry. If it's not you, are you going to be salty? Nah. All right.

Nah, nah, nah. I've dealt with that. You know what I mean? I've been on teams with other superstars, and we you know, we live and die with whoever takes it. That's facts, though. That's facts. So let's go to our resident expert on all things Sixers, Sixers-related. Kenyon, are you okay with PG taking a shot in that situation last night? Nope.

Not okay with it. Even though Tyrese Maxson just missed a free throw. He went to the line, two free throws. He missed the back end of it, which would have put him up one. But KD still did what he did, so that would have been down one. Yeah, I think PG should have deferred in that moment. Tyrese has been in the rhythm,

he's been out there longer. You, it's your first game back. I understand your mentality. I understand who you are. But this wasn't the game to be that hero. Your first game back. You didn't have it going. It was 4-4, 13 up to that point, 14 up to that point.

What? Yeah. 4-4, 13 before taking that shot. taking that four for 13 before he shot that so you had good and the thing is you had good looks on your missus you had good looks but if you take that shot if Tyrese is not there, yes. You can't have Tyrese who's been in the rhythm and... Since last year. Yeah, since last year, and he's been there since day one of this year. Like I said, I understand PG's mentality.

But your basketball IQ has to kick in in that moment, and not your pride and ego. And his pride and ego took over in that moment instead of deferring to Tyrese Maxey. So I just, yeah, I think Tyrese should have took the last shot. Do you think Nick called it for P.J.? He didn't call a timeout. Ah. Yeah, he didn't call a timeout. He didn't call a timeout. Ah. Yeah, he didn't call a timeout.

He brought it up to court and just made it. Didn't come off of it. Yeah. Tyrese was hanging out in the wing. Didn't call a timeout. It wasn't drawn up. I'm going to let you finish. No, I'm going to say it wasn't drawn up. So it wasn't. He made that decision not to run a dribble handoff to Tyrese and let Tyrese

have the top of the floor and do what he do. Joe, what did you think about PG taking that shot four for 13 at that point first game back in Phoenix hostile territory Devin Booker history there do you agree with PG taking that shot not letting Maxie have it on his 21st birthday? He had a good look at it he had a good look at it. He had a good look at it to tie it up, right? If you're going to take that shot, I imagine you were going to just go for the win.

That was the tie. He tried to tie it. If you're going to take that, you might as well go for the fucking win, right? Why tie it to go to overtime? Like, that's... So a lot of that...

With that shot? With that shot, it would have went to overtime. You might as well go for the win. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? So a lot of that. With that shot? With that shot. It would have went to overtime. In Phoenix. You might as well go for the win. Gil, you going for the tie or you going for the win? In Phoenix? Yeah.

Going for the win. You going for the win, right? No, I think Maxie would have went for the win. He goddamn right Tyrese Rags would have shot the three. I think he would have shot the three for sure. For damn sure. I'll go, I'll go, I'll go. I would for gill and deep research for stat man that's that man oh no i know what he's about to cook though um when you look at seniority a certain time and place where you in a certain year of your career where you have to defer and you're being called OG now and

they're the young fellas and you've just been traded from a team going to a new team they got superstars already it would have been great if PG would have made that shot because it would have been a great start for him Right, but now it's like you missed that shot and it's like you got more pressure on you now Cuz you missed that shot Devil's advocate even if you would have made it my thought process still would have been MPG yeah first game back, bro But I ain't even hold you like it But if we win and I hit that shot, I'm still think we feel good about me. We feel good about me

But me as me watching the game as a fan as for Philly My thought process when he was bringing it up was you should give it to him. Yes Yeah, yeah, I understand that even if he would made it, right? And tied it and went to overtime with that shot, I would have been like, damn, PG, steal. But it's expected, though. If he make it, we go to overtime, it's like, okay, PG, that's what we got you for. No, I would have been like, why Tyrese Maxson didn't shoot that bitch. Steal. Even if he made it.

I think that's what's going through P-head is, I need to show them that I'm here for a reason Last night wasn't tonight And that's why and that's why it's sticky for them because if he don't make them shots when it's supposed to be tonight He don't take the shot when it's not For your $212 million. Look nasty and free which I absolutely but I just like I said Okay, you want to do that tomorrow when you come here Cool, you got a game under your belt. Day one, out the gate.

Out the gate. You ain't in no rhythm. But it's just like a dude to check in. As soon as you check in the game, you shoot your first shot, you ain't been in 30 seconds, and everybody on the bench like, God damn, are you going to run down the court first? Hey, I'm watching the Charlotte game the other day, dude off the bench, The announcer was like,

and we haven't seen him yet this season. This, that, and the third. It's his first time making an appearance. Came in on defense. It was a turnover. Ran down. They threw it to him. He shot the three. I'm laying in the bed watching. I'm watching the game with my wife. I said, that's why he

ain't played. He ain't going back in. Right? He ain't going back in. Right? He ain't going back in. I said, as soon as it's announced, oh, we haven't seen him yet this year. This, that, and the third. He hasn't seen a lot of time. He came in and fired that motherfucker.

As soon as he touched, I said, that's why he ain't played a lot. Like, it's that, right? That's pressure. But there's no real... Yeah, PG, yes. You've made game winners. You took big shots, made big shots.

We know that. Yes. First game back, not the night to be the hero is my opinion It's not your role on a team on our team is not your role We don't know what the rules are but You're right. I mean he had two free throws at the beginning of the fourth quarter didn't score again You don't have a rhythm right to be taking that that shot. That's what you look good Yeah, I'm trying to figure out the game play I could hold if he hit like back-to-back threes and this is the one here's not a told you right

So yeah, he was 13 up into that point. Nobody I mean, but those four could have been that core Oh, yeah, you know, he could have been he could have thought he was in the room Yeah, I'm trying to figure out what the game how the game play so he had two points He made three throws. Yes at the beginning of the fourth that was it that was it you don't take that shot that's not enough to get you right that ain't that ain't your shot now well it's a 12 minute quarter and he subbed out and he's like yeah that's a 12 right max hit two threes in the last like you got eight points in the last like seven minutes yeah oh that's right and then you got the other guy i don't even know how to say his name.

Who, Kelly Oubre? No, no, no. Oh, Yabusele. The French, yeah. Dershan Yabusele. He played well. He was balling at the end, too. Yes, he was.

He played well. So the ball should have been in Max's hand, and that should have been, like, maybe a pick and roll, if not just a one-four flat. There was a situation in the fourth quarter. PG had a shot in the wing. He could have shot it. Yabusele was in the corner. He passed it to him. Mm-hmm He missed that one. Oh, I missed that one missed it

But the fact that PG could have shot it and didn't mm-hmm Let's you defer that you wouldn't know rhythm my you didn't even take us. Yeah, just miss shop. So yeah It's because I can do it. Yeah, I got it Like I said, he had a good look because he had Grayson Allen on him. I get it. You got Grayson Allen on you, you think, okay. Because they did the pick and roll for the switch. They switched on him.

You know he thinking, I got Grayson on me. Yeah, I got Grayson on me. I got Grayson on me. Yeah. But he's a defender. Yeah. He's a defender. He's a defender.

So that doesn't even equal. It doesn't. If you're going to do a pick and roll and get whoever's guarding Maxie on you, cool. If not, that ball is... Bradley Beals should have been whoever was on the floor. I think Brad was on him. I don't want him either. But I would prefer him.

He's shorter. Yeah. And Grayson Allen. Yeah. The ball, I mean... The ball should have found Tyreex. The ball should have found Tyreex. Right.

There's nothing part of this game that says you should have had the ball. At this moment in time. Yes, absolutely. You're not playing well, right? Even though you're having a good game just functioning while you just ain't making shots. Yeah, yeah. Your good shots, you ain't make them yet. And he has some good looks.

Yeah, he has some good looks. Right, throughout the game, the more you miss good looks. So, tomorrow. Yes. The next game. Yes, that's what I'm saying. It's his birthday. Yeah.

We already know what that look like. Yes. Yeah. We know what the birthday game looks like. That's the game winner. And he would have went for the win. Yes. You know what, PC?

He's dead. Fuck your birthday. Fuck your couch. Fuck your couch. Fuck your couch. Homie. You know You give it to the guy you give it to the hot hand right. I mean, if you hit shots and you're in the rhythm and you're still in the game, yeah. But you... But...

So go to... You've only had two free throws in this fourth quarter. At the top of the fourth. Not just now. That's nasty. The top of the fourth, right? So... So it goes back to what I said, right?

Your pride and ego kicked in rather than your IQ. Mm-hmm. And not giving the ball to that young man and letting him go do what he do. We can't even say your IQ low. No, your IQ high. Absolutely. Because you made the play like, oh, he just hit a few. That's IQ right there.

Ego was like, yeah, I'm back. I'm back, bitches. DG is here. So you feel like he made a conscious decision to keep the ball? Yes. Absolutely. So as a basketball player, knowing what play we supposed to make. I fucked up.

Okay. Yeah. That's what we on. Absolutely got in the back. 1,000%. 1,000% told Tyrese. Max, I should have got you. Say it again?

My bad, young fella. I should have got you the ball. 1,000% in the locker room. My fault. My fault. And if he's not? ball. 1,000% at the end of the locker room. My fault. My fault. And if he's not? No, no, he did that. If he's not?

We all know when we... You know that. We all know when we fucked up. Mm-hmm. Right? You took that shot. If you're not going to be honest with your guys... It's like the Draymond shit I'm talking about.

You're not going to be honest with your guys? Remember Draymond did fucked up the shit and then he cussed KD out when he came through? You're not going to be honest with your guys? He probably thought he was right. That's what I'm saying. No, but no. He probably thought he was right? That's what I'm saying No, but no he probably thought he's right because remember they've been winning and they didn't have the element where I got to give it To the dude. I never had that right

I get the ball and I go and try to make a play and that was what I was doing I never like what I mean give it to you So like it's mad you was over like if Maxie's on some shit Fuck were you at? Fuck you. If Maxie's on some shit that KD was on, on some like, hey man, why don't you swing that? Just like how Paul George was like that with CJ Myles in Indiana. Yeah. Hey man, I swung it to him. I'm ready for him to give it back to me.

He go do his own thing. He. Like you said, you've been in a position where you gave the ball up. You supposed to get it back. and you didn't get it back. That's Maxie right there. No, no, no, but that's one of those things where you coming in, you be like, yeah. That's on me. My bad.

My bad, man. It's your birthday, man. But it's after film, though. Yeah, it's not after film. No, you know, as soon as you miss that mug of burn, you be like, fuck. Oh, damn. Where that little motherfucker at? Hey.

I seen you. I seeing you. I'm seeing you. I thought I had it. I thought I had it. I thought I had it. I thought I had it in my bag. Not to insult the injury. I watch everything.

I'm very observant. The way Tyrese left the floor. It was different. Swing that, old fella. Was it satisfying? No, no, no. Swing that, old fella. You remember when I hit the game?

I hit the... You shake hands, nothing. You know this one? What? Turn around this. Karan's right there. Right? So I'm driving towards Karan, and AK-47 comes over, and I took the shot.

Right? 747 comes over and I took the shot I Already knew like if this misses that boy gonna be on one in the locker room dog Like I'm gonna just gotta be my bad and just soon as soon as we get a locker room. Just look on that Edition man Cuz he he's what are. This is one. When he clap like that, yeah, yeah, yeah. That one, you tired, bitch. Oh, he going to say something to you.

Oh, we got something to say. Yeah. So we asked the chat who should have taken the Sixers last shot. 77% said Maxie. So the chat knows. It's the man's birthday. Let's shift it over. Let's talk a little bit about the Suns, the winner of the game last night.

So, Suns are 6-1 to start this season. And their big three of KD, Booker, and Bill have already played five games together. That's something to celebrate. They managed to pick up a win last night in the game where Booker shot three for 18 and had 13 points. KD led the squad with 35 points and six assists, going 14 for 20 from the field. Bill added 17 points in a 7-10 shooting. He was three for five from deep.

Are you buying the Suns' hot start to this season? I don't know if I'm buying it or not buying it, but, hey, man, that number 35, man? Mm-hmm. He is he is really really really good I just watching it like of course I've known I've big fan about I have to I have to guard him of course I know but yo man it don't matter who you put on him. No. Some of the shit that he was making, one leg running and that shit there, listen, man. Yeah.

And then he missed the jumper to tie, I mean to go up to, he missed the shot right before to go up to. It was tied, great look, he missed the three. Thought he was going to shoot it again. They put Yabasele's ass out there. He motherfucking boom, boom, and went right by his ass and laid him. He thought, damn,

because he thought he was going to shoot it again. Yeah, he thought it was a ticket. Yeah, because he damn sure great look on the first one. Doom, doom. Went right by him later. Yeah, but he took that game over when it needed to be taken over. And Kevin Durant is really good, man.

Very good basketball player, Kevin Wayne Durant. Yeah, he's really good. The fact that you said they played five games together, even though it's been seven, so that means they've missed two games already. That's good news. But, I mean, for the most part, we know as long as they're healthy, right, we can expect this. As I said, nobody's going to be surprised that they're 6-1. Yeah.

Right? They all starting the season off together? Yeah. You know, 7-0, 8-0, 9-0. We know who's on that team. Right? We know there's a Kevin Durant healthy. We know there's a Booker on that team.

We know there's a Bill. As long as those three are healthy, you can expect that they're going to be good. The problem is when two of them is missing, one has an ankle sprain, he comes back, that one leaves. When you start playing this with the lineup, that's the problem.

Because at this point, the only durable one was Kevin Durant. And you got him out there by himself, right? So, you know, the fact that they're they are together you can expect that they're going to be dominant and their ball moving and they don't need to be like all three of them need don't need to be dominant all at the same time to win games right it can be one and a half two two and a half shit shit, one and three quarters. Like, that's how much talent they have that if Kevin Durant ain't carrying it, Booker can carry it.

If Booker can carry it, we already know Bill done led the league in scoring before. So he can carry it. So they got three guys who can do the same job if need be. Oh, man. Do you guys think that Philly would have looked a lot different, that game would have went a lot different if Embiid would have played? Yeah, of course. So how good did Phoenix look last night?

For us to say this. Oh, no, they still didn't play no defense and all that shit. Like, I said this shit in the third quarter. It was like three minutes to go, and the motherfuckers had 90. Like, both teams had motherfucking 90. I'm talking to my partner like, man, neither one of these motherfuckers playing no defense. It's nasty.

No, they look good offensively. See, that's the thing to me about when you're trying to analyze a team. Even though Booker struggled. Booker, three for 18. Yeah, I mean, but Booker, they've been struggling. I like 18, but... To me, I don't... Like 18. I don't see the collaboration of them playing really, really well together

where they're all going to play like... Somebody's going to have 20, someone's going to have 30. Like I was saying before, if Booker can give me 50, stay up around there because you're that good. If KD can keep giving me 32, 35, 28, keep giving me that. But Brad, Bill, y'all all got to come together and give us collective game, performance.

It's going to be tough. So that's why I said with the Embiid thing, if Embiid is there, we got a full house, right? PG, Embiid, BlackB, Bill, Booker, Durant. At this point, it's like Durant going to do what he do. KD is KD. I don't trust nobody else. You don't trust the rest of that squad?

None of them. Who? Phoenix. I don't trust them. You don't trust Booker? No, I mean, Grayson Allen. Booker's going to be solid. It ain't no knock on Booker, but I just don't trust that.

Yeah, I like Tyus Jones over there. No, they got a good team like, you got a good, like, that's the thing about it. Like, even Booker. Yeah, he turned over yesterday. Booker makes... Very rare for him. Booker goes...

Two straight, right? Seven for 18. That's a different game, too. It's a blowout. If he goes seven for 18. Seven for 18. I mean, he went three for 18. Like, he had a horrible go at it.

Yeah, but on... 0 for 6 from the three-point line. Like, he struggled. It was one of those nights for him But on the other side you got Katie going 14 for 20 shooting 70% from the field I'm saying you got you got bill shooting seven. Yeah, so I'm gonna say from the same thing so book a struggle cuz Kayla Martin Oubre

Them dudes is his height and they have been physical with him him so he wasn't getting no so Katie just shooting right over They doing the same they were trying to do the same thing Right, so they was playing the same defenses, but it just I don't see you. Yeah Yeah, so but I don't see yeah, I don't be in feels gonna day today We're trying but they were being physical last night on defensive end Ph Philly was, but KD's had that thing going. KD not going to be able to feel that celebration that he felt at Golden State. No more. No more championships.

I'm just saying that feeling. I'm not saying he ain't going to win. The feeling of a champion. The feeling of being a part of a dynasty team. You know what I'm saying? Being a part of something where you know you got a chance to go in there and win. Like, coming into the season, you're like, yeah. We want to kill all y'all.

I think they do, man. They ain't got no bigs. They ain't got no rebounding. And they don't play no defense. Like he said, non-existent. You giving up 90 in three quarters? Y'all don't want to win no championship. You don't got no pedigree.

You got a guy that has legacy, but y'all don't have team pedigree. Yeah, they don't, yeah, okay. They don't have the golden state. Like, even if you take Curry away from it, you don't have the golden state, like that unit connection right you're like you can say you three scores can mimic those three scores right yeah but you don't have the draymond green you don't have the iggy you don't you don't have tangible you don't have those guys to to help it look good yeah and you got you got Grayson.

Grayson's probably that other piece. Yeah, but what I'm saying is you don't have the dudes that know how to manipulate the game within the game. Man. All right, take this pick from you, right? We did the pick and roll. Let me go ahead, swing to you. You're going back door.

I'm going to set the pick. Do the screen down. You come up and take that shot. I'm going to flare. Knowing Kenya went over there and I passed that for the you don't have that guy and then we come back and run all that again yeah yeah you don't have the guy where he makes extra offense outside of the original play and it's it's hard to value that guy that's the um sometimes you hope it's your star so that's the yokich type of player's your star. So that's the Jokic

type of player. Yep. Who's going to take the play here, I'm bringing it here, get it here, back door, boom, throw that.

Like, those are those guys. Usually you hope it's your star, but there's usually a role guy that does all that extra stuff. If that was ever a reason to make a guy

Hall of Fame, I'll give it to him. And that's why I would, you have to put a Draymond Green type of player in there because of what you just said. He manipulates breaking down the offense

outside of the original offense. I can give you multiple different options without having to call a play because I'm smart enough to do that. I like that about Draymond. All other shit, cool, but that's what will make him a Hall of Famer is you can't find that everywhere.

That's unicorn shit. So, I mean, that's the thing that they're missing They're missing their role player that can keep all of them like this and I don't think they gonna find that anytime So we talked about dream. I'm gonna talk about Scotty Barnes. Yep. Yep. That's it Yeah, but there was so funny. That's the player like he can I get a gym job? Yeah, it's like that's the that's how's the player. Can I get a GM job? Maybe. See how easy that fucking was? Maybe. And look where he at.

He'd love to go down there. Now, the problem is, now the thing is, Scottie Barnes, what, they have him like the Iguodala in Philly. You're making him the number one option. He's not the number one option. Yeah. You're making him the number one option. He's not the number one option.

No. He's the third option that makes the number one, two, four, and five play together. Absolutely. He's the bridge guy that makes the team work. Absolutely. Right? So it's one of those, he's that guy. Perfect player.

Perfect player. Yeah, he's the guy you can put in a Philly. And you say, all right, let me remove this guy, put him in Philly, and he makes it all look good. Who the guy was supposed to be is Ben Simmons. Yes. Yes. And that's the problem.

You're looking at Ben because he's number one pick, not knowing he's a bridge player. Yes. So you're booing the guy who's like, wait, hold on. I'm the point guard. I'm supposed to make him look good, him look good. That's my job, and y'all booing the guy who's like, wait, hold on. I'm the point guard. I'm supposed to make him look good, him look good. That's my job and y'all booing me. Josh Giddy. Yep. Josh Giddy. The Giddler.

That's crazy. I think you said Ben would be good in Philly. One of us said we was talking about Ben going to Philly in a trade. Going back? No, Ben getting traded to Philly in a trade. Going back? No, Ben getting traded to Philly. I think Gil talked about

Ben on the Suns. I mean, not Philly. I meant Phoenix. Phoenix, yeah. Phoenix. So Ben going to Phoenix would have been... Now look at that. That's what I'm saying. Look at that team, right? You got a power forward on defense or point guard

on defense, right? Because defense. Man. Right? Because he can guard one, two, three, four, five. So now your group, like, and then on offense, he's the guy that's sitting there doing this. He ain't looking for no fucking shot. None of that. Right? He ain't looking for. It's like you done told him, don't shoot the ball, boy.

Don't shoot. Cool, I got it, coach. Don't even worry about it. Don't even worry. And he accepted it. Right? So now he's going to take all the responsibility of, okay, if Kyrie's in the game, I got Kyrie. Yep.

Okay, Luka's on it, I got Luka. Right? Oh, Gaffer's posting up. I got Gaffer. Like, he's that guy. Right? But the problem is you don't know how to value him. Man.

You can get Ben for low right now. No, if Ben, if Jimmy Butler would have stayed, then nobody would have paid attention to Ben Simmons. Because Jimmy Butler would have been

the official second option. Number two, yep. Right? Tobias is the third option. Yep. Ben makes it all work. You the point guard.

You Eric Snow. Athletic Eric Snow. Yep. And that's that's him there's some guys that are bridgers Kevin Garnett

absolutely was a bridger in Boston 100% he was a bridger he knew how to do it but as I said when he was with

Timberwolves the reason they didn't make it like they were supposed to because he is the ticket but he's a bridger though yeah

he's a bridge player he didn't want to be number one option that's not his gift and He didn't want to be number one option. That's not his gift. And he didn't want to get it. Let Ray be the shooter. Let Rondo be the another facilitator. And I'll manipulate it all.

And that's why when they got to the conference finals, he had Sam, who was really the number one option. Spree was the number two. And we took it home with ticket. We'll take it home with Ticket. When they left, it was Wally Zerbiak and Troy Hudson. He didn't want to share the ball with Wally, so it was just him. He's like, man, give it to me, and it was too much.

Yeah, come on and double. Come on and double. Oh, he weak down here. Come on and double. Swing, swing. Our stupid ass do what? Double. Stupid.

Swing, swing. Swing, swing. Brick, brick. He got tired of that brick, and he's like, I'm done with that. Let's talk about KD just a little bit more. Another situation he has going on off the court. So when KD isn't hitting game winners, he's still making headlines. After Suns head coach Mike Budenhoser praised KD's leadership recently,

he was asked about a criticism that came from Stephen A. Smith on an episode of First Take. So a few weeks ago, Stephen A. said that KD's lack of leadership would hold the Suns back this season. And here's what Durant told Doug Haller of The Athletic about Stephen A. in a recent article saying, quote, I don't understand how people even listen to Stephen A. I've been in the league for 18 years.

I've never seen Stephen A. at a practice or a film session or a shoot-around. I've never seen him anywhere but on TV talking shit about players. He's a clown to me. He's always been a clown. You can write that too. And as you know, nothing's off the record when you're talking to reporters, but I appreciate him letting him know that. You can write it. He permissioned to put that in the article. So when Katie gives you a quote like that, you obviously will write it. Turns out Stephen A read the article, decided to respond on his podcast. Here's what Stephen A had to say. I'm a clown. That why your team called me to be

a part of your documentary. That's why y'all called me. Cause I was a clown. Your company, you run the show. You executive produced it. How come y'all called me when you had the boardroom and you were sitting down to interview people one-on-one. Did you call me to do that interview? By the way, did you show up on first take sitting right across from me? A clown. Kevin Durant, can anybody talk about you? And that was after you told the Knicks you were coming. And then at the 11th hour, you got convinced to roll over to Brooklyn, which might be one

of the worst business moves, Mr. 35 Ventures, that we have seen from a basketball superstar in a modern day era. Because when we think about business, the number one name that comes to it when we think about basketball and business is LeBron James. Fair assessment on the business standpoint. So let's go to our... You got 35 Ventures? Yeah. 35 inches. Yeah 30 all 35 V That makes sense One time I told Katie I was gonna start a company called 36 ventures just to surpass him

He got upset about this, but that's neither here nor there. Just me sharing. Let's go to our resident Stephen a expert shot true story Rashad McKay What's your reaction to the KD versus Stephen A beef? Man, Stephen A, he can't catch a break. He keep fucking with us. I know he may think that because we up here talking about players that we don't got the players back. That we not not gonna vouch for

the players because katie's a player like he playing he ain't no former player or you can sit up here and just talk crazy to the former players we could talk back go back and forth back and forth right so katie got a brand to uphold you know he's been a bit ultra sensitive with criticism you know just like anybody else i think we like praise more than we like criticism so we're going to be a little bit more biased towards what we receive but i think stephen a just needs to understand he's in a losing situation you got a lot of players who's going to come to kevin durant's defense when it's coming to just calling you a clown it's old media trying to still get down it It's new media right now.

And I'm going to keep preaching that the new media is what really is the driving force between sports and the audience. So if they want to hear authentic conversations between player to player, that's what we're going to start doing. But I mean, for you, Stephen A., to get on there and try to get people to come listen to you fight against players is just counterproductive. It's counterproductive because that ain't how you got here. So you need to kind of refocus. Refocus. Fighting against players may get you clickbait, may get you views, but when we see you, it's a different energy. A lot of players may feel the same way about me because I'm coming out of

a different lens for me, but I still got respect for all these guys. So at the end of the day, if you don't got respect for a guy, you're going to start talking crazy about personal stuff and all that because he's coming back at you from stuff you saying. It's a microwave society.

Everybody's fucking cooked. Nicky! Alright, let's shift shift over this side of couch can you we think about this whole Stephen a KDB Katie calling Stephen a clown Stephen a pointing out that uh He wasn't a clown when they wanted him to pull up to various boardroom ventures Man I caught myself. Them calling him for work, for documentaries,

he's cool. Use it. People are going to watch it if Stephen A. on it. Cool. I'm going to use you if I can. So that. Use it. All right. People are going to watch it if Stephen A. on it. Cool. I'm going to use you if I can. So that part of it. He still think you're a clown in the same breath.

While using you for his shit. Both things can exist simultaneously. Yeah. Um, yeah, it's that man's personal opinion about that man, the way he felt If Stephen A had ever played in the NBA and same energy, I think it would be perceived a little different. But the fact that you've been a journalist forever and Kevin Durant looks at himself as... one of the best players ever, to lace him up. Mm-hmm.

So for there to be any bad blood, any bad words, any bad prayer, whatever it is between the two, I'm pretty sure Kevin Durant feel that it's Meredith. I don't think he just picked it out of thin air. Stephen A's job is to critique basketball. Yes.

And with this particular player, to your point, he is sensitive about his game, about the time that he has put in, about how he goes about his craft, and the results that he's got from that time that he's put in working on his craft. So for anybody to ever question that, he has a problem. Facts.

And he's not afraid to voice it. So I guess it became a, there's a boiling point with certain things. And I think Kevin Durant has reached it with said person. And that's what you get. I mean, questioning KD's leadership, saying that's gonna hold the Suns back. No, but that is the problem. And I think that's been the issue this whole time

with players and media, right? Media is the power of the pen, right? And the pen is what the fans read, right? The voice is what the fans hear. So when Stephen A. Smith or anyone says he's not a leader, the player is asking the question, who the fuck are you to decide that? You've never been

in this locker room. You've never been in the practice. You've never seen me work out. What are you judging it off of? What is your, how are you judging what I am? What part of the game?

Like, you're watching the game, in and out, halftime, whatever the fuck you're doing on how you watch the game. Because you're a sports reporter, so you're watching everything. So how are you judging I'm not a leader? What on the fucking court says I'm not a leader? Because in practice, in shoot around and film, you're not here to give that judgment. So you're just saying it and then you're spewing it across the judgment. So you're just saying it and then you're spewing it across the world.

That's the problem here. You're telling the world I'm not a leader because of actually what now? Yeah, what are you basing it off of? What are you basing it off of? You don't like me. Like, what are you basing? Because I made a decision to go to Golden State to win a championship and get a finals MVP.

That's what you're saying I'm not a leader of? Because we lost a 3-1 lead. We as a group lost a 3-1 lead. I'm a bad leader. Was the coach a leader? Did he get fired? No, you're just blaming me? Like, there's so many factors of going into something.

Was Curry not a leader when LeBron James came back? Was LeBron not a leader when it was down 1-3? Was he a better leader when it went up in 1-4-3? How are we fucking judging this? That's the problem with the player themselves. The people who are not even close to us is giving us our titles. Well, they have the platforms making us believe. Making them believe.

Making them believe. That we accept the titles. We don't accept the titles that people that don't do what we do give us. Like, championships don't give fucking people titles, man. That's what I'm saying. Like is Jokic a leader? Because they won a championship? Or because he's an MVP?

When he says, hey, I don't know. What did you tell your team? Shit, I didn't tell them shit. Yeah. Got on the play. You know, I play my game. I go home.

Like is that a leader? Like leadership is a gray area, man. I got on the plane. I play my game. I go home. Is that a leader? Leadership is a gray area, man. It's crazy. So people, to your point, right? The media portrays it as the guy that's the leading scorer or who has the most jersey sales mm-hmm supposed to be the leader on the team so they try to hold you accountable for something that you probably not for one you don't want to

be for two and that you very well might be for three mm-hmm in your own way it's the penalty of leadership right I got that's a penalty of leadership. Right? No, it's a penalty of people buying my jersey and me getting a big contract just because I have these things. You want to be the king? I'm still an introvert. You want to be the king? No, no. Hey, what I'm saying? But I'm still an introvert.

So you want to be the king? No, no, no. But the thing is this. Okay, he lost 3-1. They blame him. Right? And then he goes to Golden State. And we win.

They win. He's the best player, finals MVP. Did he lead them to championships? Curry led them. Right? No, no. We're not giving you credit for that. Hell no.

Oh, no. We're not giving you credit. We're not giving you credit for winning. No, no. Like, that's... We won before you. You're picking and choosing. One whole time.

We won before you. You're picking and choosing. One whole time. We won before you. You're picking and choosing. That's why I said, even when Charles Barkley said it, oh, he's not a leader. What is that? How are you saying that, dog?

We watched you in Philly. Were you a leader when it was... No, that wasn't your team then, huh? You go to Phoenix. They were already good before you. I'm pretty sure you called yourself a leader there because they're winning right they're winning so you're a leader then when they start losing you probably wasn't the leader

it went back to Kevin Johnson when you went over to Houston you wasn't the leader right everything fell on who Hakeem I think there's an article right now by is it Scottie Pippen or is it

Drexler? It's a public one that said, you owe us an apology for being out of shape. Is that your leadership? Yeah. You, it's, you Google it.

You owe us an apology for being out of shape. Have you given that apology to those, to that group? Yes, to your teammates. Well, I'm going to look. I think from back in 2023. The last year, a couple months ago. Scottie Pippen said he thought Charles Barkley wasn't dedicated enough to winning a championship. What's that again?

Who said that? Scottie Pippen said that he thought Charles Barkley wasn't dedicated enough to winning a championship. Okay, now I'm sorry, but when you talk about other people's legacy, right, there is a six-time champion who's won it six

times that got over the hump of beating the Detroit Pistons. That means they had to do extra shit, lift weights, do whatever the fuck they had to do to win. You get with him and he says, you didn't do enough. So when you're sitting here questioning other people, you were questioning yourself that you didn't do enough to win a championship. You just did enough for yourself. You didn't do enough for the team.'t do enough to win a championship. You just did enough for yourself. You didn't do enough for the team. You came here to win a championship, but you was playing like you was still in Philadelphia and still for...

Here, you got to do some extra shit to get over that hump. But you're the same person that's throwing rocks at every other player questioning who they were. And that's why I said I always called them on this bullshit. Like I was a fan of yours, so I know what was said about you. I asked about you. I've asked Drexler about, hey, what happened to when y'all came over here? I've asked those questions. So just to play devil's advocate, can't Stephen A not do the same thing? Because as you mentioned, KD said,

we haven't seen you in locker rooms, haven't seen you in film. Let me just read a part of the response that Stephen A gave on first take. He said, respectfully, Kevin Durant, can you stop lying, please? I've been an NBA reporter. I was a columnist for the Philadelphia Inquirer as well.

Kevin Durant has seen me in the locker room when he was at Oklahoma City and Golden State. He's certainly seen me at games throughout his career. But there's the other part of that too. You're in the locker room for media availability. For that small window. It's a lot more locker room time, obviously.

Can I please? I don't want to at all. And you're not local media, so you're not there every day. Let me hear local media, so you're not there every day That's what let me hear local. That's let me hear local media Say someone's I like I respect the local media. We did see another member Philadelphia Inquirer local media Say some things recently about who that may or may have gotten him In an altercation is it but I would truck but what I saying is, I would trust his opinion over national media. Because national media is higher, right?

You know what I mean? It's like top-notch. They're not dealing with that local shit. You know what I mean? We pull up for the big click. Yeah, we're speaking here across the board. I don't know what's going on local, but they're saying,

well, since you don't see us every day, don't tell me what I am then. That's the player standpoint. Full circle, because I'm not the hypocritical type. We were the first ones that actually questioned KD's leadership. Cap.

Charles Barkley was. And we chimed in. As far as us, the new media, we made the comments. In the new media? When you say we, you speaking French or you talking about you? I'm talking about we.

We, we. Who's we, we? We had a whole debate. No, you had a whole debate. It was actually Brandon. Yeah, it was Brandon. And as I'm saying saying we all spoke about it Mm-hmm, right and Katie was supposed to come on the show to address Asian couch, right? so we look about we're looking at you know, the Stephen a thing we did Stephen a a

Favor early on by actually bringing this topic up as fellow former athletes former players we say Brandon like man, so what who hasn't Katie made better, but that was already out there though No, remember it was already out. That's the reason why we spoke on it Brandon wanted to know who is he made better? What makes him such a good leader all that kind of stuff? So as we dug dug into it we started to find some answers right it's like you can't really quantify because gil feels a certain way about leadership when it's like all right i'm supposed to lead by example the only way you're supposed to do that is go in and put your own work in right so it's not not about him doing shit i can't make i can't make i can show you so we had a whole viral week doing that. So here we are, full circle. Quality program.

You know what I'm saying? Where another person on the outside is doing what we've already done. And we've already pretty much, KD pretty much rallied his troops and led them to the playoffs. What are you supposed to do? We just didn't get over the hump. Not getting over the hump don't make you a great leader, though. Right? So leadership is about making sure you get as far

as you can at this point like i said i'm not gonna be hypocritical we've already done we blasted kd from that side and it's like like right now steven a you didn't need to do all of the stuff that you did because it's already been talked about and he's already covered the basis to say we don't need to talk about that no more i'm a great leader like even right now right with yannis right if he was the leader when he was when they were champions and he was a great leader and they they won in six right now i can't say he's a bad leader because they starting off bad they just starting off bad right you know whatever his leadership was when they was winning the championships when he won the back-to-back MVP it doesn't change right because they're starting off bad we can't say oh we need to question his

leadership on the decision he was making well when he won the MVPs we wasn't questioning then why the fuck are we questioning when it's not working so but you want to give the leader the praise right and the credit in the good times to chin They also deserve the blame in the bad time, you know But you didn't give him the credit when he was he got to EVP but but you didn't say he was a great there was No, he all these is the best of leadership in the bed. Thank you But I'm saying this there isn't it's only you only get caught your leadership only get questioned when they decide to do it. Right?

Only when they decide to question it, like, oh, it ain't working. Oh, shit, look. They're horrible over there. Whose fault is it? Whose fault? It's the same motherfucking fault that got us here when we was doing good. If we doing bad,, all the milk gone, the cows ain't shitting right,

man, who brought us these cows? Because they was shitting right two months ago. And we was praising the motherfucker who brought us these cows two months ago.

These motherfuckers shitting green and all kinds of shit. We need to take them back. We going to criticize this. Hey, what's up, man? You told us these cows going to last a whole year.

Three months in. I need my money back. So we got a room. We got room to criticize this. Hey, what's up, man? You told us these cows going to last a whole year. Three months in. I need my money back. We got room to criticize and we got room to praise. There's only one group of people, the coach and the players. The coach and the players, that can tell us if that leader's good or not. That's it.

That's it. We can't sit on the outside and look and look at games and see how they acting in the games and say who the goddamn leader and who's doing a good job. Right? They could be the one speaking up in film. Yeah. All kinds of, I mean, it's, I mean, you know. Like, we don't know, like, yo, hey, hey, K-Mar, hey, it might be the quietest

nigga on the team. Hey, K-Mar, hey, we're about to go work out, you know, meet us at the gym, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom boom, right and then you might be the loud one in the game Right, you know what I mean, so it's it's it's but I mean just the devil's advocate That's how you can ask certain people from a team doesn't mean what they're telling you is the truth, right? We've seen this throughout the history of that I'm right Somebody, oh, shot the asshole, whatever it may be. That may be one teammate saying that. Five may disagree,

but I'm going to roll with that one because that's the point. Yeah, because we know him. We know him better than the rest of them. Yeah, that's what I said. It's not for us to question because we don't know.

Yeah, we're not there. Like, we're not in the locker room to actually know who is leading in the game who is leading in practice who's leading? Outside right when we're when we're traveling that's a whole different leader. Hey, yo, hey man. I got dinner for everybody Hey, we got dinner at the Morton's boom, right? He might not have no minutes in the game But he's keeping in everybody like he's sensing some shit going on

Instead of going to the team meeting right players meeting. Hey, man, we're gonna go I got more ins or I got a table at the club and boom boom boom meet me there, right? You got that guy that is little who can who can sense leaders? More accurately us or the media us so we looking at the, we can tell who might be the leader of the team by the interaction on the bench, talking to who, how they playing, who's directing what. And even when you look at KD, he might not say a word to nobody. The whole game, he might even be on the bench,

you've never seen him move his mouth. But everybody looking at him for direction. What we doing? What we doing? Oh, he's looking at Book. Now, Book, we look, he look at Book, Book give us the order, but we know the order came from KD. And that happens too. So speaking of people not in the locker room, we asked to chat

is KD a leader? Not in film, not in the locker room. 98% said in the watch. Not in the video. 55% said yes. KD is a leader. So one more follow-up to this. Can a team have more than one leader? And in your opinion, what's the cap on how many leaders can be on a team? Everybody can't beat a leader.

Oh, no, you don't need too many chefs. That's right. You can have a couple. You need some sous chefs. It all, listen, it all depends on how the team is structured. Right? You know, some teams, to be honest, some teams are structured like a football team. Right?

You have, you know, you have like the leader leader. Right? He can be the star player. Yeah. Then you can have goddamn the defensive leader. You can have the star player. Yeah, then you can have Goddamn the defensive leader you can have the guy and that's a locker room leader Right there's just this different depends on how that team is structured like when Pat Bev come He's coming in in a leadership role Right you we got Giannis over there right Dane was a leader over there, right?

So now you got three leaders on the same one is the leader with the coach like Dame don't have the relationship with doc Right. Yannis is overall then you got Pat Baird that's coming in that got a relationship with doc He's been there before hey, what's going on? Hey, tell him what hey, hey, man. Hey, come on I say Pat more of a vet than a leader. He's like, you know what I'm saying? No We talking about leadership is a hey, when he was over in Philly. No, no, no. When he was over in Philly, what was the word? Hey, hey, come on, big fella.

You got to do some extra line drills. We're running some line drills. We're doing some line drills. That's the leadership. But the word was when he got the Milwaukee trying that same shit and it wasn't flying. It wasn't because you got other leaders. No, no, no. Hold on. Now you the vet. You're just a good vet. We can look at it.

We can look at it and say the Nassus probably is the locker room leader. Maybe. Yeah. You know what I mean? Just looking like because the Luther brothers don't listen to him. So in the locker room,

the Nazis might have the upper hand. Hey, man, come on. Hey, come on, come on. How you doing? You good? You feel good? Hey, hey, get him a towel. That probably is his role. And you're going to be like, come on, y'all know it.

You know that guy. Hey, come on, man. Keep your head up. Come on, come on, come on, man. Hey, coach, come on. We're ready for you. But, come on, come on, man. Hey, come on. Coach, come on. We're ready for you. But I got to go back to what Kenyon was saying, though. When he was checking the reporter for talking to the rookie in the corner,

not only is there leadership, but it's the vet shit. If you don't have vets, to me, it's hard to say you have any leaders outside of the best players. The best players usually either want to be it or don't want to be it's hard to say you have any leaders outside of the best players the best players usually either want to be it or don't want to be it but outside of that 50 50 with it 50 50 so then it's like okay well who's our vet who are our vets on the team that's gonna be able to get these young dudes in line who's teaching them how to be who's who's like like in miami right

miami when it was going like when-Wade and all of them left, the leader was half of them. Yes, 100%. He wasn't the best player. No. He's the leader. He learned from being with D-Wade. He learned from being with Shaq,

being with Zoe, being with LeBron James on how when all you left, I know how to, okay, he's the best player. I Need to challenge you. I need to teach you how to be a leader to lead. Yes. Yes That's what's missing in these locker rooms. The locker room is missing the veteran who's gonna teach the young Superstar how to lead them.

And that's what's missing. You have Luka, but Luka missed Dirk. He didn't get to learn from Dirk. Dirk learned from all these guys on how to be a leader, and he didn't get to pass it on

to Luka for Luka to learn how to... So you got Kyrie who's teaching him when Kyrie's still learning. Right. Right. What did Mike Finley try to do? Yep. Give me that beer. Yeah.

Get it out your hand. Don't take a grown beer, though. Give me that beer. That's Mike. Like you said, he missed Dirk. He missed Mike. He missed the vets that could have. But that's a vet coming to him saying, what you doing, bro?

Get it out. I'll get that. This ain't the championship game. We're not about to do that. But beer is like Gatorade in Slovenia. Yeah, I understand. But that's the thing. Even with someone like LeBron, right, what they are learning from him is what leadership, what longevity, what a professional looks like.

So even if they don't become leaders, they understand how to be a professional and what to look for. Yeah, they see. And from a leader. So what ends up happening is when LeBron is gone, those guys are going to have a high standard for the next superstar that comes in. Because I had LeBron James. He came here at 1 fucking 30. 1 30, what the fuck, you coming here at 6 30 for we got a 7 30 game? No, no, no, no, sir.

You have to be here at a certain time. That's what the last leader taught us. What to expect. This is high standard over here. You got to sleep here. Yeah, you want to be sleeping when shoot around is over. God damn it. Don't go home.

Right. And that's that's that's what leadership is. Right. And that's what the people who follow the leader is going to expect from the next leader. So when Anthony Davis, Anthony Davis take on that leadership, his shoes, the shoes he got to feel is not the game play. It's the preparation now. You have to prepare us and yourself like a leader. So question for all you guys on the couch. Did you ever play with any guys who may have thought they were a leader but they were lying to themselves they try to take on that leadership role but it was like for sure for sure randy foy i didn't need

name shot but i can't no damn what come on come on dog he was the same age as y'all what you doing man like i had Antoine, right? Antoine was the leader. He was, you know, professional, right? When you're talking about the prestige of saying always the right things, dressing the right way, looking the right way, I got to see what a leader looks like, right? When you're saying, I pay you to look a certain way,

and when you leave here, you're not going to put the franchise in jeopardy. That was... You know what I'm saying? I mean, when you're talking about paying somebody and you're talking about putting a stamp on somebody, you got to make sure you are the leader here and you are a leader when you leave here.

Facts. That was Antoine Jamerson. So when the leadership was given to me, it's like, y'all sure? I drive a hundred without the seatbelt, goddammit. Right out. Explain that. Explain that. You know what I mean? I'm going to try my best.

I'm going to try the best, but goddammit, I'm gonna try I'm gonna try my best I'm gonna try the best but god dammit. I'm still me right? So it was one of those good Did you feel like you were a leader of those squad? No, okay See, let's no and I never but they knew that like I'm the best player here. I'm the franchise here. I lead by work ethic when were you talking about like what to look for no just don't look in this corner don't look over here god damn it I'm not

uh uh like I'm when practice come god damn it be honest I already practiced two times so I'm here to fuck around now this is my office

right 7 to 11 god damn it what's happening where the party at? Man, I done worked out twice already. You know what the fucked-up thing is? I didn't understand my bad habit until probably a couple years ago when somebody asked me, like,

when you were playing around in the locker room doing all this, why? And I had to sit back and say, God damn, I'm in the gym from five to seven, seven to nine. By the time I see my teammates, it's like recess. Yeah.

It's recess. It's done the work already. It's recess for me, not realizing it's fucking class work for them. Mm-hmm. And I didn't understand that then. Like, I'm thinking about that now. Like, I've been working out by myself this whole time when human beings come in this motherfucker. What's up, man? How y'all doing?

They trying to get ready, man. I don't know, fuck all that. So what'd you do last night? I put you out of practice. It's like he was sheltered from everyone else. He was just in the gym. I'm in the gym locked in, and when I see you, yeah.

As soon as you see other people, you're like, oh, shit, other people. Hey, what you been doing? What you been doing? What you been doing? And we getting ready for practice. I don't know how to fuck that practice. What's up, man?

What we doing after this? Like, it was one of those, and I didn't understand that's what I was doing. That's gym rat. That's what the kids need to understand what a gym rat is. You been in the gym so much, when you come out, you don't know what's going on. What's what? Huh? I don't know nothing about none of that.

I'm about to go back to the gym right now. It's like I'm doing my work, not letting them do theirs. Yeah. I wonder why they can't motherfucking shoot. We talked about this the same way about LeBron. So if I'm one of your teammates, and I know you're in the gym from 5 to 9 a.m., why am I not in there with you?

Why am I not? So I think it works both ways. Sometimes you're not invited. But if I see Gil, and he's the franchise player, leading scorer, all-star, all-NBA-level player... But we don't know that unless he tells you. We don't know that. Yeah. They don't know I'm there. They don't know what time he getting there unless somebody...

Unless he invite them or he... Or they ask, right? No. No. Ain't nobody gonna ask what time he getting there. Nobody gonna be like, Hey, hey, hey, Kim, what time you work out outside of practice? Nigga, let's say he don't work out. He gonna make up some shit. Yeah, I can move four to seven.

Knowing damn well he ain't four to seven because that's my time. Oh, okay. I'm don't work out. He gonna make up some shit. Yeah, I can move 47 knowing damn well I'm gonna come work out with you. This nigga like oh shit That's what I know He's three I'm three in oh Yeah, you are three We've been keeping the word counter but that but that's but that's the issue no one knows but I was one of those guys who asked the Security hey, what's everybody's time? Yeah, absolutely

I don't want to come in because you remember if someone's coming in late They don't want them they coming in for a personal to work about ain't coming in to fuck with you Yeah, don't come for like that. But you'll see some people like let's say you shooting right? You start looking to see what you. Don't come for... Like that... Like, you'll see some people, like, let's say you're shooting, right? You'll start looking to see what he's going to do. Like, he better come over here. I was getting ready to do full court stuff. Yeah, man. Like, he'll be like, hey, you using this half?

No, I ain't using it. Same way as 44. So you try to fit... Come down here and have conversations. Yeah, you try to stay out of everybody's... So just so, like, if he get to the gym, right the gym right like this he always got to the gym before people but people don't know if he got there at 8 9 he could've got there 10 minutes before me I don't know all I knew is he I saw him in the locker room mm-hmm and I don't know what

he's done up to that point if he get the after me, I know he ain't doing shit. Yep right Unless he went somewhere else nine times. Are you going where you going where you can go? And I mean dudes ain't really going outside gyms on the season unless you Just mad at the organization. Yes Unless you're mad at the organization. I'm staying away from me. Yeah, but other than that, yeah, well, we don't know, right? We don't know what time the guys that really are putting the time in, working on their game, unless they're...

Inviting. Or guys are staying after, right? We had, like, Mello was the after guy, right? He gonna stay there, motherfucker, an hour and a half, two hours after. He didn't practice the whole practice. Right? Oh, so he's practicing his own practice. He's practicing his own practice.

He's practicing the whole practice. Then he's going two hours after. Right? And he might come back later on and get some shots. We don't know. Right? We don't know what he's doing. He had a gym in his house too. So we don't know. You don't know? Yeah. And that's the thing. That's why, you know, that? You don't know what he's doing in his own... He had a gym in his house too, so we don't... You don't know? Yeah.

And that's the thing. That's why, you know, that's why when we talk about greatness and you talk about leadership, it's... It's a fine line to call a great player a great leader.

Because the definition of leadership is you're bringing everybody with you, right? Now, from a player standpoint, and you asked the Tom Brady's, you worked out 12 hours a day, who did you invite? Oh, nobody. How can I say you was a great leader? You invited nobody, right? You're going to the gym three, four times. Who did you invite with you when you were working out?

Nobody. I see Michael Jordan, I see all your moves. You've had how many teammates? Not one looked like you. Not one mimicked your behavior. Not one had the same work ethic, which means for the most part, they didn't know what you were doing day in and day out. You gave them a glimpse of it. You didn't give them the whole shebang. Right? Right?

Same thing with. They started lifting weights. It was because. Yeah. Oh, yeah. We're going to do the breakfast club. Breakfast club started at seven. You started at three, though.

You started at three. God damn it. Now you over here doing a couple lifts, knowing damn well you did a whole regimen before we got here, because we know you want to be better than everybody, so you're not going to do exactly the same thing. So that means you're going to put in work before or after.

You're going to be doing three times as much as we are. You know, and that's why you know when you when we when we say Who did you make better? The real question is who did you invite with you when you were getting good so they can piggyback off your greatness But most stars want to train on them They want to train by themselves because most likely that is a safe haven place for them That's where they're going to escape from whatever's going on. All right, so I don't want to be in the gym with you I'm already in the gym with you as a teammate

These three these three times is my time to get away and work on my own demons So if I do invite you that mean I really like you Most likely. Or I trust you, at least. Or you trying to? Or you trying to? Or, or, or. Like Kobe.

Like Kobe. Or you be testing me. He used to invite a lot of testing. Test to see if I get up. See, and that's cool. You get up and show me that you're going to be here. I'm testing if I can trust you. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Because for the most part, just like anything, I don't know what you do once we leave right? I don't know. I don't know who you are once we leave this gym. We know who went wait, so I'm I'm gonna see what kind of way for 5 a.m. A. So what you doing? Come on out here right now I just got to the gym. I just got from the club Okay, I just got from Jim. What's up? You coming? Nah, I'm gonna take a nap bet all right Never gonna call you again not passing you the ball I just got from the gym. What's up? You coming? Nah, nah, I'm going to take a nap. Bet. Bet? All right. Bet. Never going to call you again, not passing you the ball.

You napping. You napping. Clubbing and napping. Like, I know you club, but are you still putting in your fucking work? You come in here, you work for two hours, then you can go to sleep. Go to sleep right here. Go to sleep right here. Wake up, work out, go home, go home go to sleep and that's those are the tests

well gill you was the only one doing your playing career that didn't drink really you can go to the club and then Not need a nap Nothing better than that No, but he was definitely not the same gill would go out and not drink though Not go out not drink. It's not drink, though. It's not go out, not drink? Like, go out, not drink. And then you can go work at a... And go... Remember, where we going at? It's downtown, right?

Yeah. Shit, I done got a bunch of Red Bulls. I'm about to go from the club to the gym. Yeah. Yeah. All right, it's right there. So I still got to make sure I don't really feel sleepy like that.

When we don't play tomorrow, I go right to the gym, try to get myself tired, then go home. Got a little work in there. You ever been to an NBA locker room? Yeah. That was my rookie year. We got a steam room, we got a jacuzzi, got a movie theater in here.

Had a few teammates, girls and lads. Hey, we done work in there, baby. What the fool? Yeah, this Antwoine Jameson, right? Yeah, this is right. Told you I was teammates with him. Ha ha. Then you meet her later, and she tell you.

Yeah, she met me. Y'all locker room boys. I been in y'all locker room. Hey, who the fuck brought you? Yeah, I know. Yeah, who the fuck brought you in the locker room? Mm-hmm. Right?

Mm-hmm. Know the security code. Yeah, me. Yeah, your locker sit right here. You got pictures of your family. I was one of those, man. Bringing them to try to impress them. I was in everybody's seat, too.

Yeah, we got a refrigerator full of shit. Yeah, take that. Put something in your purse. Yeah, get you a little soda, a little water, a little Gatorade bars. Yeah, all in the jacuzzi with the work. All that. All that. All that. All that. What? Water look yeah, but Gatorade bar still all in the koozie with the work Yo hot tub at your apartment building trash Millionaires leading sanitary the one of the definitely not one in the middle Hey, this is what a million is bigger definitely clean North sanitary. The one at the... Definitely not. One in the... Hey, this is where the millionaires be, girl.

Definitely ain't clean, nor sanitary. Facts. It's better than the other one. It's better than the other one. Because... The public was... You in the NBA locker room

with grown, nasty-ass... Nasty-ass men. She don't know that. She don't know that. I guarantee you you didn't have a teammate or four that done pissed in that hot tub. Facts.

Nasty. Unnecessary. Unnecessary. Nasty. Nasty. Facts. Real tub. Facts. Nasty. Unnecessary. Unnecessary. Nasty. Nasty. Facts. No, that is a fact. Nasty.

Still peeing in them. The poor peeing. They're peeing in them. I'm saying, but try again. The guy that is. You know how much energy it take to get out, go to the pee, wet pee. If you didn't get back in there, like, come on, man. Hey, man, hit them bubbles up.

The bubbles don't clean it. The bubbles don't clean it. Why them bubbles yellow, man. Hey, man, hit them bubbles up. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. The bubbles don't clean it. Why them bubbles yellow, man? Yeah. Don't let them see it. Don't let them see it. Don't let them see it.

He said, you got a nigga that just splashing for no reason. That's four. Just splashing. Just why you splashing for no reason? Don't worry about it. I don't want you to see the yellow. Get it out of the way.

Move. Speaking of other things that are golden. Move it. Move it. Move it. Everybody's seeing yellow. Get it out of the way. Move. Speaking of other things that are golden. Move it. Move it. Move it. Everybody's seeing it. Move it. Oh, shit.

We're stupid, dog. I just don't. We nasty and dumb. Nasty. We're just nasty for no reason. That's why shower shoes are very vital to your A, dog. Anywhere you go. If you've ever been in an NBA locker room and one of your teammates didn't wear shower

shoes. You'd be like. Hey, man. You come from the go. If you've ever been in an NBA locker room and one of your teammates didn't wear shower shoes, you'd be like, hey, man. You come from the country. You come from the country. You are country as they come. You got talents on the bottom of the sea. That's the one thing you better have on when somebody's questioning your nasty.

Absolutely. Some candles, some something. You in here barefoot? Oh, wait. You in the here barefoot? Oh, wait. Oh, wait. You in the shower barefoot? Who raised you? Huh? Who raised you?

Absolutely raised you. TK, who raised you? Motherfuckers out here. Hey, you dropped the soap in the bathroom. Give me another bar, dawg. Bro. I'm not dropping that pissy ass so far Good you better not reach for them. I don't know Marcus can be that I never did

I just wear my shower shoes all the time. I saw him see what his shower shoes on and he put a towel down in the shower Yeah, I was like Absolutely here on out Sal down. Hey, socks, shower shoes. That's what you all know. Yeah. Oh, he's a vet vet. Yeah, vet vet. Right.

Hey, he was like, yo, so why you got the shower shoes, the socks, and the towel? Yeah, like socks off, but yeah. Hey, young fella, look right there. In. He peeing in the fucking shower right there in front of your ass. That's why you wear this shit. Aim for the drain.

Say less. Let's keep it moving. Don't even ask me to look over me. Steph Curry returned to the court after missing the last three games dealing with an ankle issue. Warriors were surprising 3-0 in Curry's absence after going 3-5 without him last season. Chef Curry had 24 points in 24 minutes in a road win over the Wizards, improving the Warriors' road record of 4-0 in the early going. On the other side, Curry's former teammate Jordan Poole led the Wiz with 24 points on 8-for-20

shooting, and one moment between Poole and Draymond caught traction online. Near the end of the second quarter, Poole hit a three over Draymond's outstretched arm and pointed at him as they came back down the court, up the court. And then on the next possession, Curry hit a three over Poole, and Draymond pointed back

at him as the team headed to the locker room at halftime. So history between Poole and Draymond, well documented. Draymond famously giving Poole a one-hitter quitter in practice before the 22-23 season, leading to Poole's eventual trade a year later. Can you talk shit to someone over a teammate shot instead of your own? No. Yes. No.

Yes. Poole hit the shot at Draymond. No. Yes. No. Backpack. No. Yes. No. Yes. Who hit the shot at Dre by reporting that to you? Yes. No. Backpack. No. Backpack. I was going to wear it.

I was like, nah, not today. Maybe tomorrow. Because of the conversation the day before and the conversation of 30 always carrying you, that's when you supposed to do it again. Right, that's right there. Like you hit the shot, it's just like the day before. You hit the shot, right, talking trash, 30 hits the shot. And then you talking, that's when you should have been like, hit the shot, right, talking trash, 30 hits the shot.

And then you talking, that's when you should have been like, 30 carrying again. 30 carrying. That would have been me. Run. Just back up a little bit. Whoa, whoa, whoa. But that is the same.

You could have did it again. Right. Why would Draymond do that? When you didn't do anything, but like pass the ball. I Mean, I mean he had 18 I'm just saying that that play the point. We got I scored on you this thing. I scored on you Mm-hmm. Got an assist on the play. I got an assist. Oh you come on, man This stuff see if Steph probably would have saw him point at him, Steph probably would have pointed at him, too.

Think so? Hell yeah. Both pointed? A double? No, no, but Steph would have did it instead, I think. That would have been some Drake and J. Cole shit. But don't, but don't. Don't just double-team.

Don't just double-team me. Y'all push me out the group. See, I got, see Jordan. You push me out the group. I didn't do nothing to y'all. I can like that now, dog. I have to. Play basketball. No. I didn't do nothing. Yeah, I like that at all

I have to play basketball. No No, I know no, I get it. Oh, yeah, I'm privy to now I say what's up? I'm safe Not a sucker punch. You know what you say? I'm safe You own probation, sir, you own probation I'm safe. We are in the district of Columbia. I can see it. I see it now. You on probation. What's up? You on probation. Yes, he is.

Him. Down there. No, see. If you're going to do it, that is the environment. Yes. This is the environment. Yeah, absolutely. But don't.

Draymond thought. I got to feel the temperature. No. But I'm balling. The thing is, I'm balling too. doesn't think it's I'm balling too That's what I said. I'm balling too. I'm at home. I say Gotta talk a little bit bet like a little bit more than bro. My my troops is ready No, I've been training the troops to know play them listen troops. I read troops. Exactly

Listen to my troops are troops. They't ready for nothing. You know who my troops are? The troops ain't ready for nothing. My pops over here. Me and pops going to jump them. As soon as he say something. He better not say clock. He better not say nothing. Say it's a little clock or something. Don't fix your...

Don't fix your... My daddy watch me. Your troops see what he did to you. Yeah, my troops is out of silver. My troops see what he did to me. So my troops is like, hey man, he would never sucker punch me like that. Not a sucker punch. So I know the bigger guys, I know the bigger guys are like,

Come on over here and do that to me. Who on the team? Whoever team. On the Wizards? Anybody gets sucker punches, like, yo, just let me see it. No, no, no, the Wizards. Let me see it. The Wizards is like El Wizards.

That's cool. It's the French team. That's cool. And what is the Warriors? Bilal Kulipali. What is the Warriors? What is the Warriors? Draymond is what?

Flint, Michigan. Saginaw. Damn. He is Saginaw, right? What that mean? Huh? Draymond is what? Flint, Michigan. Saginaw. Damn. He is Saginaw, right? What that mean? Huh? What that mean?

Know where I was born? You tasting that water over there? You know where I was born? I said it's Saginaw. Hey, Draymond. Hey, Meshach, you know where I was born? I don't. I don't.

I was born in Saginaw, Michigan. You see how all... I just still don't know what this means. You see this water? No, you see the water? Clear. right? Right. Theirs is brown, and they still be like, eh.

That's a different mindset, bro. When they see it look brown, like it's mixed with Hennessy a little bit, like a little bit of Hennessy drop, and they still drinking it. That right there mindset is a little different, right? Right? So, yeah? Right, so So, you know the way so you Don't want to mess with nobody. So I'm sagging on Michigan and O'Cliff mixed together

Yeah That's why somebody from Michigan said a detrit, they were like, Gil, don't come here. Man, listen. I was like, no problem. I'm from Asheville, North Asheville, but I own a cemetery. Where's your cemetery located? What color is your water?

That's a different. We all somewhere where motherfuckers are doing shit. You know what I'm saying? That's a good and we all we all somewhere where my father's doing shit. I'm saying it's just what it is No, no, don't make you know, you know saying you don't just get to hit people charge it You can actually come get it now the camera wasn't on me So don't throw it in you put the camera. No Like passing I'm throwing it so that the cameras on him keep it on him I get what you further He definitely should have did the backpack thing.

Yeah. Right? It was the ideal time. On my petty meter, absolutely. Just jump on it. Right? Petty meter, he should have had a skit with one of his teammates. He should have came up with something.

Yes. But... It is Draymond. Yes. But. It is Raymont. Yes. And Draymond thought process, hey, don't forget what I did to you. Hell no. I'm still here.

I hope that's not his mentality. Oh, it is. I'm still here. I hope not. You don't think it? Dog, ain't no offense with that dude, man. I hope not. I just hope not.

Brother. Dog. Did you see the video just hope not. Brother. No. Did you see the video? No, I have. Listen, I could criticize Dre, but I feel like he's a more stand-up dude. He is. No, no, he is. He is.

Even with a short wick, I think when the circumstances hit, you making a decision to do some crap. No, no, no. You got to live with those decisions. So if we're gonna promote them cool, but to me it's like this is coming from somebody in the short wick I've had the list I've been in the short wick of the problem the situation with me and Tracy. Mm-hmm, right me and Matt get into it. I Found a shit out max. We had the right to react that way. Mm-hmm. I Shouldn't a punch I shouldn't have been the one to swing first right but I did so therefore I realized after the fact I need To apologize to that man, right? Mm-hmm. Like you know, I was wrong brother cool, but in the moment

Not Registering that I should not do this. Have Draymond done some things that he thought about it before? Yes. But some of the things, it's just reactionary. Yeah, you know what? To the moment, right?

As he went, we thought like, damn, you didn't have to do that. Or damn, Dray, you... But some of this shit is just... It's just reactionary and you think about it after the fact like ah maybe yeah you know what or it takes for somebody else to tell you no you was wrong then you'd be like you might argue in a moment but then it really singing like I'm pretty sure

after he punched Jordan pooloole in practice, he wouldn't have been like, yeah, I probably shouldn't have hit that dude. Right? Trust me. Because when he hit him, in the moment it might have felt great. Trust me.

And his ego said, I knocked that motherfucker out. Right? The devil on his shoulder was like, I knocked that motherfucker out right was the devil on his shoulder was like And I knocked that motherfucker out the angel soon as it happened Guarantee spoke to him was like Yeah, you shoulda did that. Oh I'm the I'm out man. I'm out how crazy you gotta be mom

You know how crazy you gotta be to foul somebody hard He get us a hey man, what the hell you doing and then you punch him I don't know you and the way he hopped up. I don't know your intentions. You know my intentions No, I didn't jump up. Hey, so duh relax a punch could come with the all that energy See we didn't know that before but I see what me No, we didn't know the aggressor No, cuz that's not You can be Reality where you can be the aggressor and then become the victim and then be the aggressor. That's the brown water. There's no reality where you can be the aggressor and then become the victim and then be the aggressor again.

No. There's no reality where that makes sense. Where I want beef with y'all, punch you on your face. Hey, bro, I don't want nothing. Oh, you a punk ass nigga now. Pow. Bro, I just said I don't want none. I just.

Yo. And you just being aggressive with me for no reason. Yes, but in the moment, right? When you grow up in a certain environment, you done been in fights, right? Mm-hmm. And when you've been punched first, and it hurt.

Uh-huh. Right? Been in a lot of fights. I ain't saying I've won every fight I've ever been in. Mm-hmm. Right? But wasn't afraid to fight again. I done got punched, and from being in them moments, I've ever been in, right? But wasn't afraid to fight again.

I didn't got punched and from being in them moments talking and pushing and the push led to he, I ain't going to push me and punch me. The push punch? Yeah, like no. So therefore in moments,

like I said, I could be dead wrong, dog. Dead wrong. But the narrative wasn't going to be that you... I'd rather ask for forgiveness. Damn, my bad, dog, right? No, because you got... Me being on the receiving end of that,

because I don't want your apology at that point. No, you got to forgive me twice because you fouled me first hard. I did. And then you punched me. I did. For fouling me. For fouling me.

You punched me for fouling me. And you're mad because I got up like, yo, what the? Oh! Now I get hit twice. Who? Who? Oh, my God.

I had to think about what he said. Who is this? And then realize, no kidding, that don't, no, no, no. Oh, no. What did you play? Are you a sponsor? I had to apologize, right? What are you?

Boom. You got to remember, when we get fouled hard, we don't jump up necessarily to surprise. We felt the hit, right? What's wrong with you? We felt the clothesline already. So we know what that felt like. We just coming up to like just show

the team. Hey, I'm good. We giving you the look. Watch yourself. Watch yourself. We gotta. We never expected to watch yourself

Those are the stories that don't make it to the pros. Ever. Right? Those are the ones that don't make it. Like, dude, he was really talented. He could have been the next MJ, but he had a temper. That's that story. You got to go home with your girlfriend. You got to go home with your girlfriend.

What happened to you? I got up like normal. Was it Kenyon? I got up like I normally do when I get fouled hard. Hey, right? We get the back and forth, and that's it. Never and once have I been hit after I. We need to put some ice on that.

We need to put some ice on the I. We wasn't even ready to defend nothing like that. I wasn't even thinking about it. You walked right into that. Did you see it coming? No. He hit me with six. Nothing like that. I wasn't even thinking about it. He walked right into that fucking... You used to foul. You used to see it coming? No. He hit me with six. I didn't even know he had six with him.

I didn't know if it was six people or six punches. Which one was it? Yo, hey, man. That's when you go home and you start asking your girls, oh, shit. So, you know him? No, no, I'm just... Nah, he mad at me.

No, no, you know him What I'm saying is he fouled me whore like it was personal look that means I got up what's up and then he hit me again So I'm now I'm trying. I don't know what personally so I'm trying to figure out you know is y'all dating this I guess this is it was very, very aggressive. But this is very personal. Very aggressive. This is very. He didn't waste a second. He got up and punched me. This is personal. This is. Let's shift it to something positive.

This ain't the neighborhood. Something positive on the Draymond and Poole front. So far this season, Poole's averaging 23 points a game, five assists, and a league-leading 2.8 steals per game on 45-45-92 shooting splits. Five more points than he averaged in his first season in Washington. Poole is leading the team in scoring and second in field goal attempts behind Kyle Kuzma. So even Draymond remarked on Poole's improved play this season in his post-game interview. He's playing better.

He's playing a lot better. You know, I think his shot selection, you know, you come to a new situation. I've never done it, but I've watched a lot of it. But as a competitor, you just want to show everything that you can do. You want to show that you're the guy. And I think last year he was pressing a lot. He just wanted it to happen so bad. And this year he's a lot more settled in you know he's not uh taking the some

of the shots that he was taking last year they were bad shots and i don't think it was a matter of selfishness i think it was a matter of wanting so bad to prove to people that i can have my own team that i can come here and be successful, that it ends up working against you. He said he never experienced it. Why are you giving this dude advice? It's something he never experienced. You're giving this nigga advice, bro. Oh. It's weird. I've never experienced. I'm giving this nigga advice, bro. It's weird.

It's weird. I mean, he was on concussion protocol for a whole year. Like, he had to put the big helmet on Jordan during practices that they'd be wearing in the football games. They'd be wearing the big cushion helmet. Talking about, your vision is blurred. His vision was blurred for 82 games, wearing the big cushion helmet. Talking about your vision is blurred. His vision was blurred for 82 games, right? He could barely see.

He was throwing it in the ocean. No, he took some bad. I mean, what he's saying... Right around where the shit can't hit you. You can't say you don't experience it, then you give the explanation. I get that point. He was taking some horrible shots, right?

He played very bad. he played like a six man right he talked about yeah he played like you know come in win a penalty change the tempo yeah i bet you took some same shots in golden state yeah that's what i said he took the same shots it's just not you started the same team you know you gotta you gotta play uh you gotta play starter basketball this is you the erratic behavior basketball. It's like, you want to come off the bench? And when he came off the bench, he was popping again. Did he start this game against them?

No, he didn't start it. Last year, they broke him off the bench for a couple games. It was a weird one for him because usually six men don't turn the starters over. They was trying to put him back in the same position to see if he could play well. No, I was like, yeah. It was like J.R. Smith early, right, as a sixth man, and then say, here's your own team. Yeah. That never happens.

Yeah, you talking about the Hornets, New Orleans? No, just period. Just period. Just period. Like, no one's ever been, like, what happened to Jordan Poole is kind of rare. Right? Who has it happened to? A sixth man that just inherits the.

James Harden. Bah. I'm saying, other than James. But he played, but he knew how to play basketball. He did, but I'm saying, other than James. What sixth man that we know of that played that role consistently for good teams, right? That turned and had their own team. The next year.

The next year. And succeeded at it. But just even had their own team. And the good ones that we speak of, they remained six men for the duration of their career. What year was that? Did James did it? Fourth year? Third year? I think it's fourth year he ended up in

Houston. I think it just happened a little early for Jordan Poole. Entering year four. It was the same thing with Jordan Poole. It was fourth year? Year four? Or year three? Jordan Poole. It's about the same amount of time Yeah, it's about the same amount of time but like even when James but when James came in he still plead

Like your five for poor. Yeah, you're five. So yeah This is just so like he's gonna buy so yeah, so therefore he was stuck Right first for with the Warriors. So the timeline matches up. It wasn't like you was on the sixth man on a bad team. You was on the sixth man on a really good team that was winning championship team, and you didn't learn shit. That's what the big issue was last year.

You could have stepped into that situation last year and done a whole lot different, and we all thought that you would have, being from where you came from, which was the organization that you came from. If you was playing that role in a bad organization, we all would have been like, ah, okay. But you came from the Warriors where people held them to a higher standard at that point.

Well, he's the only one we could really say that came from the Warriors that had the ability to actually have their own team for the first time. That's rare. The whole critique of it is rare. Even if it's fair, it may be fair, but it's still rare. Because we're looking at the fact that you had

Steph in front of you. Yeah, but if you look at it and you say Sean Livingston, all those guys who never left that team to be something else, Jordan Poole was probably the first one. No, but they drafted Jordan Poole, though. That's what I'm saying.

He's the first one. They didn't draft Sean Livingston. Or any of the guys that they had. Those guys were inherited to those teams. Right. So for you to draft a guy and you to come in as a rookie, as a baby, and this is already a winning organization already when you step foot in the door. Yeah, you're not priming.

He's not priming himself to leave the organization to go be anything. But you should be in love. Yes, I hear you, but you should be learning something in the process. I think he was. What we were talking about earlier about leadership, right? It just wasn't to be a leader. No, but what was he learning?

He was learning his role. Yeah, he wasn't ready for a leader. No, but what was he learning? He was he was learning his role Yeah, he wasn't right there. Oh my role is coming in with three minutes left in it in the corner watch me I get it and get in get high. Yes. Hey, I'm Andy Johnson. Yes, but picking up good behavior my godfather In the process you ain't gotta use them. Mm-hmm. You gotta fucking use them But you watching the shots that these dudes taking with the game on the line. You can move when you learning those things.

You should be. This is what we expect. I'm just waiting for my time to take those shots. So that's my point. Yeah, that's what I was saying. I'm saying he literally wasn't ready yet. He didn't learn nothing. Because he wasn't ready. He was still looking like I can't wait to shoot

shots like that. But think about it. Year four, we won. Yeah, should have been doing that. Me shooting shots like that. So therefore, you're going into year five. On the same, I'm not thinking about leaving this team. I'm thinking about keeping my role. Maxie started off as a sixie. See, Maxie's different because he started off as a six man,

got into a starting role, had different minutes, got to be the leader a couple games. So he's adjusted. It wasn't six-man starter. Your own team, not another starter there. Your own team. And he coming in preseason thinking like,

yeah, man, I'm about to take like 75 shots, brother. And then it's 75 shots as a six-man. It's six-man. I'm about to do the double-double, over here, you know what I mean? Go out of bounds as James Harden

in preseason. James Harden at UCLA. Like, no, Poo, you can't do that. You can't work on that. These games count. Hey, this is going on our record. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, when we sub you out,

Steph Curry and Klay ain't coming back here. It's you. So let's keep this moving. We got some breaking news. The report just came down based on that Embiid story about the altercation with the reporter this past weekend. NBA announced they have suspended Joel Embiid for three games

for that altercation with Sixers beat reporter Marcus Hayes in the locker room over the weekend. The NBA or the Sixers did? The National Basketball Association. NBA head of basketball ops Joe Dumar said in a statement, mutual respect is paramount to the relationship between players and media in the NBA. While we understand

Joel was offended by the personal nature of the original version of the reporter's column, interactions must remain professional on both sides and can never turn physical. Did the reporter get suspended? We have no word on

the reporter. Did they revoke his media credit? Yeah, because it don't matter. They put it out there like, yeah, it's all him. It ain't got nothing to do with the other side. So three-game suspension, a fair punishment for Embiid for his actions? No.

You do not agree with it? No, because the team put him at risk, man. So I'm going to stand on that, man. Like, I'm standing on that the Kevin, whatever his name is. He should not have had a media pass for Saturday, man He should not have I'm gonna stand on that Marcus has Marcus Kevin Marcus Edward Every goddamn name is Media pass

This is very, very... When does the three games count? Well, that's... Gil, I know you're an expert at loopholes. I would just be like, hey, Joel's ready to go right now. Clear! Do my three right now while I'm doing this. Tomorrow. Tomorrow. And I'm gonna

be honest. I'm gonna be honest. You do it on this road trip. We're going to have to talk about you actually taking this money from me. You definitely should appeal it. Where's the union? No, no, no. What I'm saying is because you're the NBA.

You said three games. You write my check. Who paying? Am I getting fine for this the day you Write my game checks. It's three games. Oh, where's the Union? So I'm not looking at you. I'm looking at a boss man So you suspended you you you're not gonna get my money Okay They're gonna be three games where I'm healthy and I'm getting my check back. Where does that be?

I used to have a problem with the organization when they did that, right? Let's say, I remember, I'm talking to Ernie Greenfield, and we used to do the idea, you know, petty, it was just stupid fines, right? $2,500 here, right? You're late on the bus or you're one minute late, we're going to fine you $5,000. And I said, what is the point?

It's not enough money to change the behavior. It's enough money to piss me off. Keep doing it. Right? You keep fucking with me. Yeah. Right? You're sitting there, I got fine notes on my chair for something like fuck is this? Yeah, right and I remember we had a we had Ted Ted Tap Scott and he was like, yeah, I'm finding you as I'm your fuck what you do with that. I

Know it better be out of my check. Are you gonna write this slip all your won't send it up there I know one thing they better not take it out of my check Cuz I get paid per game and there's gonna be a game where I'm gonna be plus It's gonna be up my ankle hurt. All right, so Stop playing. All right, you know, I mean stop stop playing with people man Right the league. This is this is not your problem. Remember I said if I'm the team I'm coming in first and league this is this is not your problem remember i said if i'm the team i'm coming in first i'm which right this is owners listen i you have to understand there's two entities there's

your team and then there's the nba you're gonna you have to always beat the NBA to the punch because they don't have your best interest. Right? So if this happened in my locker room, hey, yeah, 76ers are going to suspend him for three games so y'all don't have to sit. Once I penalize him, you can't come in now. Did the two games. Right?

You can't do nothing. I'm going to give him two, three games. Right? Hey, hey, we'll figure that shit out. Don't even worry about it. I just said it for the press. I'm gonna give him two three games, right? Hey, we'll figure that shit out anywhere But I just said it for the press. I'm not finding you. I'm not gonna piss off my own player, right? He's all more already the fucking don't know when he gonna come back. I'm not gonna add to him fucking with him emotionally Now now there's he's missing games now. I just added three games to it. I get to take his shit Oh, no, but why do you get to provoke me?

Why do you get To poke the bear and the bear don't get to knock your fucking head off part of the job I'm so confused part of the job. We Know so we know you can poke I can't bite This is ooh, huh? You can't it just gonna cost you three games there work check. It's like zoo. You can't, it's just going to cost you three games. Worth a check. It's like the zoo. What do they do? Right? Hit the cage, you can do whatever the fuck you want to do.

Right? If that tiger bite, it's the tiger you're going to put down. There's a lesson in psychology where people have a perception of you. You're this fucking asshole dude, right? You don't have that perception of yourself.

But in order for it to be true for them, they got to provoke you to act that way. How do you do that? Let me trigger you so you can show me what they told me you act like. I'll be chilling until you start poking the bear. Then he turn into the real bear. He eat your head off. Now you like, look, look, I told you. Look at how he acting.

I told you he was going to do that. But you didn't tell us you was going to poke him. You didn't tell us that. You didn't tell us the only way to get a reaction out of the bear was to poke it. You sold us that you was going to walk around a bear dancing and he was just going to bite you. He sleep. He hibernating. But as soon as you took that little stick and you said, let's see if he wake up.

You know, it's one of those things, man, is even though we don't ask for it, we get paid to... We get paid not to react. Yeah. Right? Like, we supposed to... Like, being a professional athlete... Supposed to be a punching bag. We supposed to be a punching bag to everybody.

Women, too. Yeah. Yo, let me ask you... Right? Hey, fans coming in... Just say anything to me. I gotta just take it. Fans want to throw some shit on us and do all this, I mean women too. Yeah Right Anything to me I gotta just take hands gonna throw some shit on us and do all this and it's the dunk tank Yeah, that's what you guys sit there and wait till they dunk you don't think that's crazy, right? Think about it. If a pimp if a fan came up and slapped you You you you suing?

No, you got to take the hit and keep on moving, do all this shit. That's what they expect. You pinching it. Millions. We saw the Joel Embiid interview when he was before this incident. Is it me or did he sound frustrated? Frustrated. Right?

Everything I've done for this city. Right. I don't even want to, see, I don't even want to ask you to ask your son, like that's,

I want to know what happened between the Olympics and him losing 25 pounds. Right? That is, that, that is a very important time because something happened to the point where we have him here now.

Yeah. He's not playing. And he's not playing. Something happened for sure. Everything looked like it's spiraling. Yeah. Right? This doesn't look like he's getting back healthy.

We're getting ready for it. It seems like it's just something getting worse. And you look at him sitting on the bench, he don't look. Yeah, it's like. He don't look happy. Like he looks just frustrated. Like this has been a bad like couple months. You think he's being told not to play?

No. No. I think some. No, I don't think that. I wouldn't. He wants to play and they telling him. No, I think. No, no, I just think he's hurt. I he hurt you know that frustration like you know goddamn you know shit just keep fucking you know but you down 25 pounds which means you work lighter you work on that you

worked on getting that weight off and you get hurt in the process and that's what I you re-aggravate whatever was that knee in the process and that's why can't we know and now it's a setback. So why can't we know about it? It's a setback. Why? I don't know. That's what I'm saying. Don't we deserve to know? Setback. No. Setback.

Now we don't know what's wrong. Now the setback, now everybody's talking. We don't know what's wrong. No, no, think about it. Let's say it's what we're saying. He got hurt training and getting ready for the season, losing the pounds, and he ended up getting hurt, but they're not really saying anything. Now, all the reporters are talking about,

you shouldn't have played in the Olympics. Absolutely. As much as you want to say, not these motherfuckers right here was overworking me, trying to get me down. You can't say it, so you're sitting there fucking frustrated. You're stuck. You're stuck. All right, because you can't tell the truth. Everybody thinks it's on you. Yeah. There's got to be something like that. And then from there, now you got the reporter,

you're losing games, this and that. It's not teammates not. I'm saying right nobody can say the season ain't starting off championship mode Right, I mean like like as as bad as Milwaukee's playing Phillies is like Drolling B is like, uh being's the last team in the Eastern Conference currently. Sixers, 14th. 14th. But what I'm saying is, it's not like there's this happy spirit about Joel coming back.

Right? It's shit after shit after shit. Oh, that's what you're saying. It's not a good mood or a good energy. Yeah, it's not like, you know, I'm getting. You're saying he looks, he's creating a defeated mood or a good energy. Yeah, it's not like, you know, I'm getting... You're saying he looks... Defeated. He's creating a defeated energy. It looks defeated.

When you're looking at him, you're looking like, one, even if you came back today, I don't think you're mentally ready. Right. There's something fucking with him. There's something, man. Like, this ain't a guy who just won gold, who's been preparing to get ready for the season

that's coming back. So this looks like a guy who is... I can see you lost 25 pounds. You probably got hurt. He's a laugher and a joker. Huh? He's a laugher and a joker. He has a...

Like, he's not... Yeah. Did the PG thing happen after the Olympics? Yeah. What? What? No. Is he going to Philly?

I don't know. After or before the Olympics? I thought it was before, but let me double check. That's what I said. I think he... That's what I said. I think he tweaked something

They didn't speak out about the trade Did he did he Early July he was on the team before the Olympics Like I just think they I just think that something that I wonder if PG got in the gym I'm wondering what the team camaraderie is. That's what I'm thinking about right now. Because think about it. If Joel, if he has this energy and he's not upbeat about the team, he ain't on the bench over there talking to KJ, you know,

trying to help everybody. Be in the leader that you can't be because you're not playing. Hey, hey, do this. Hey, move over here. If you're not seeing that energy, it could be something possibly fester in that injury, maybe. I'm thinking deeper, because an injury can only be a surface-level thing

when you're in motions. You're on the bench. You know you can't bring this type of energy over here. But if it's something deeper than that, that'll cause you to be over there carrying that shit. Remember, I'm starting the season off. I just want to go. This is the beginning of the season.

Now, think about it. No one... What's this timetable? Exactly. Damn. They said he's been doing five-on-five scrimmage and ramping up. Thankfully, the one silver lining in all this, he will not be available Friday against the Lakers. The fuck this five-on-five?

How long you been playing five-on-five? What's the five? five what's the five? Five old five half court I'm just reporting what would have been reported you I do not carry the way but I appreciate you always diggy divorce Josiah, what five you guys Courtney shot that he was doing five on five five on five Don't know what the other five on five but no timetable now not five. Oh, he's starting to five on five. Don't know what the other five on five, but no timetable. Not five on, he's starting to five on five. He's going to come back in three weeks. It's five on five.

We don't know still. The Sixers were smart. He was ready to go yesterday. So we'll count that as game one. It's just one of those things as it's, you know, as a player, you're probably mentally frustrated. Absolutely. Same thing with, you know, like a Kawhi, right?

There's, like that injury, like when you're injured and you know, it don't feel like I'm coming back three weeks That gives you sitting on the bench and you hearing people like when you come back Yeah, yeah that that that that big sigh right why am I here that big No, but you stop coming out, huh? Then you stop coming out Yeah, you want to come out there, right you go to the game and now you don't go sit on the bench Yeah, you in the back in the back and didn't and they don't let it be for extended period of time You stop going that motherfucker all together. I'm good. I'm gonna say back You know what listen, you know when someone is coming someone been out for a minute, know what ain't coming back you can see them. They all cheerful and shit, right? Suits they start wearing the uniform

About three games away you can see he started drinking random Gatorade. Give me some water. He ain't never dapped you up. He ain't never dapped you up. He over dapping you up. Yeah, let's get that. Let's start our little handshake. So we asked the chat,

is Joel Embiid's three-game suspension fair? 63% said no. So, okay, chat is in line. Yeah. What's our crew? I blame, like, I don't, a dead-ass man in the reporter shouldn't have been at the thing.

I'm not taking it. I mean, that's what I'm saying. If I'm the team, I'm not taking this money. It ain't money I want. Those three games combined will be over a million dollars in salary. That's what I said. It ain't money I want. If I'm a union, I'm stepping in.

No, I don't... But that's what I'm saying. I don't need the union. As an owner, that's not money I want. I need to know... I have your back. We fucked up. i have your back we fucked up i have you back don't worry about it i'm not taking that money it's not worth it's not worth it but just last valid point for the union to step in uh to say they're not going to allow the media or the

nba to do this type of thing again without pushback if you really think about this type of incident if you can as the media go in and provoke players and they act out, whether it's a push, a shove, or a yell, or whatever, and there's not no medium for that, you're going to have these instances. This is the first one that I'm pretty sure a lot of guys felt like they should have said something or done something to a media guy, and they haven't. Because we all talked about the comments were since removed from the article but nonetheless we're in there to begin with fault though what it shows fault it shows fault it shows that's what i'm saying so if the philadelphia inquirer found inclined to remove that section from the article and like i said the article valid from the points being made besides having a man and that's why i should it should be even where he don't get penalized but they're not take. I'll take it down. No, we're not going to do that. But if they're pulling it out, then they're acknowledging.

But what I'm saying is you're wrong. This was out of line. He can't use words and use physical. Right. Use words to them. Right. Right. You know what I mean?

You're right. You can't put your hands on them. Like, I didn't put my hands on them. I said this. Touch me and I'll say mine. If you want to cuss me out and do all that in front of everybody. Talk crazy to me. Go ahead.

You know, yeah. But don't. I agree. Well, now, let's move on to mostly fans. Yeah, just tell them it's work trash. Don't nobody read it. Do the Jason Williams. Take the, get this goddamn pen.

I used to tell them, you're work trash. Don't nobody read that bullshit. No way. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you wasting your fucking time, you up all night rewriting that shit, rewriting. Ain't nobody reading that shit. Your mystery commas, asshole. You'd be fucking with somebody's ego, like. Yeah, you up all night writing-writing that shit, re-writing. Ain't nobody reading that shit. You missed three commas, asshole. You'd be fucking with somebody's ego, like... Yeah, you up all night writing that shit.

I didn't know I had to re-write it. I had to re-write it again. Yeah, you straight up. And they still didn't publish that shit. He talking to my wife. Now, mostly fans presented by Underdog, download the app, use promo code GIL, get up to $1,000 in bonus cash,

plus all the special promos that Underdog's got for you all throughout the month of November So first question is from underdog user. It's obvious. I think in an ode to our cemetery Larry You got fans that are supporting underdog just want you to know that damn said when B already has two five by five games in His first 78 games there have only been 23 recorded in NBA history since block steals have been counted. Hakeem has six of those. How many do you think he'll finish with in his career? Already has two. Five by fives?

Two five by fives. Points, rebounds, assists. Explain for the audience. Steals blocks. Wait, what? Points, rebounds, assists, steals, and blocks. But he recorded a stat for all of those ones? Five by fives.

At least five. At least five of all those. So five of all of them? Obviously, the points are generally higher than that five-point threshold, but five blocks, five steals. He's averaging five? No, he's had two five-by-five games in his career so far.

And five steals? Five by five. Damn. Why do you keep saying that? Like it's going to change. Like it's going to change, five by five. You think that that's something it's going to change. It's not like it's going to change. Five by five. You think that's something we're going to get done? We're going to have five blocks?

Look at him. Look over there. He's the only one. Five by five. What the hell? Better get five blocks and five steals. I can get you the five steals. The whole thing?

Five blocks, shit. Wow, wow, wow. I don't know if y'all know this, right? I learned this, like we know how to strip people. You know how to strip people? Yeah. You know how to strip people? Yeah.

You know how to strip people? Yeah. You know how to strip people? Yeah. You know how to strip people? Yeah. You know how to strip people? And the whole thing was five blocks of shit. Ow, ow, ow. I don't know if y'all know this, right? I learned this, like, when I used to strip people, I thought it counted as a steal. It don't? Deflection. It's a block.

It's a block. Oh. So James had three blocks yesterday. For who? With those three strips. He was smacking the shit out of people. Wait. When you go to shoot.

Shooting motion. When you go to shoot, now, it's it's a block and I didn't know that Yeah, I would have been blocking a lot. I know that know that either right they might have just not gave me credit for Because one game we playing San Antonio. I thought I had a bunch of steals. Mm-hmm I looked at the station. It says seven blocks. I was like I didn't block fucking seven shots, right? I was stripping the shit out of people, but I didn't says seven blocks i was like i didn't block fucking seven shots right i was stripping the shit out of people but i didn't have seven blocks so once you go up now that i know i was i would have taken the seven blocks i did i had about eight or nine y'all fucking hell

so but but yeah once you once you once you go up motion and i okay points, rebounds, assists, steals, blocks, five-plus in each of those in the same game. Okay. How many? Can we get? How many should he get in his career? A lot. Smack in Kareem. I mean, because he's...

I mean, because... Yeah, he's gonna have the five... The only thing that's gonna stop him from having it is usually the steals, right? A big man trying to get five steals. That's really the handicap for him. And he's active enough where he can play the passing lane. Between blocks and steals, it's damn near right there for him.

I know he got dunked on by Zubac last night, but just watching that game and watching the fear in people's heart going to the cup. He had nine blocks left. I know, Zub, I tried to hit him with a jump hook at one point. I'm just watching the whole time. Like, what is he thinking? Get out of here. Every time.

But just the fear that guys had even going. Shots that they would normally take easily. Y'all don't understand that feeling. I had that feeling in college. Yeah, we seen it. When motherfuckers afraid to come in there. Like, they pump fake and just dribble that bitch out. They don't even think about shooting it. Don we've seen it. When motherfuckers afraid to come in there, they pump fake and just dribble that bitch out. They don't even think about

shooting it. Don't you do it. They're doing special drills. You hear about after the fact, you're playing certain teams and they're doing offensive rebound drills where they couldn't shoot it in practice. Yeah. Pump fake. They're playing us. They got to pump fake and pass it out. That was the rule. Rebound, pass it out. Do not put it back up. We're not playing

that team. We're playing another team. We're not playing them. They will get that. Let rule rebound pass it out. Do not put it back up. We're not playing that team. We're playing another thing Yeah, we're playing another not playing them. They will get that chance it out of here as a sophomore Yeah, I had ten blocks. I missed it a few times And I had another my senior year with ten blocks and I miss it a few times. I had eight here nine there Yeah, it's a sophomore my first one as a sophomore Yeah, ain't nothing like that first one as a sophomore. Yeah. Ain't nothing like that feeling though, where they really...

Oh, shit, where this motherfucker? Yeah, see, I couldn't be a big man. All right. Because... And I'm trying to chase the block, champ. I don't... Get a rebound. I don't get... I'm jumping for everything. Yeah. I'm jumping for everything.

I'm JaVale McGee out there. I'm JaVale McGee. Pump fake, I'm gone. Gone, boss. He averaged three and a half last year. Oh, yeah. Where he at right now? Early on.

He at nine, so that definitely helped. Three, five. 3.5 right now. Right now, easily. He might be a phone. He might be a phone my point on Yeah, fo 3.9 phone. Yeah, he definitely everything yet. Yeah, we know we know know the martyr day, right? We're not talking to the bar Damn y'all always speaking on that shit without me man It's 212 it is 212 as the police do I Am your op. I never told you I'm the ops. Who's that talking?

No, wait, wait, hold on this a next-tail motherfucker that Just churros that Next hell motherfucker that Just chose that I have your piece to communicate with produce. We see the mic, but what's what's really well? What's by that ass on that us? Wait hold on ain't no next sales it hit man Hey, I do miss the chirps though. I mean, I know y'all I know y'all gamers there, y'all trying to figure out where the game at, man. Y'all hollering me PlayStation 5. The Divine Light. The Divine Light.

T-H-A. Divine Light. I got to give him my 500. How much? 500? We in the trenches. Oh, I got an idea before you do that. Don't do that yet.

I'll tell you after we get done. Okay. Do I give the money? Yeah, give away your 400. Wait. I't do that yet. I'll tell you after we get done. Okay, but do I give the money? Yeah, give away your $400. Okay, wait. Okay. I thought he was done.

Wait. I'm ready to go home, like most of y'all. You know. Already. Sufficient work was done today. Check was earned. Earned that check, but go ahead and give your bread away. No, we're going to wait. Huh?

We're going to wait. We will wait to give y'all your bread. Y'all can stop go to Nancy and cash happy Hey, hey chat King says fuck you all today Get your money money fuck you right now We don't get it to you just you know, you know, I feel old right now so we're going to get it to you just, yeah. Because I still owe $500, so we're going to...

I think I owe $500. I received direct deposit yesterday. I'm ready to pay. Oh, you like it. It's pretty good, Gil. Like and subscribe, man. This man owe about $2,000.

I paid mine in full. Oh. Yeah. But you owe some more. It's in Texas. It's really good, but had to do the delicious magic

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