Gil's Arena - The Warriors WILL CRUMBLE Without Draymond Green
Episode Date: March 29, 2023The Golden State Warriors will CRUMBLE without Draymond Green as Gilbert Arenas and Rashad McCants get into a HEATED Debate over the dynamic big man. They also dive into a range of NBA topics includin...g Kevin Durants Return and Bronny James in the McDonald’s All American Game. Gil's Arena is NOW LIVE. Every Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. Brought to you by Underdog Fantasy: Sign up here for a deposit match up to $100 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Agent Zero.
Change the game.
Welcome back to Gil's Arena, presented by Underdog Fantasy World.
Back with the living legend, Gil.
Give you a little.
Why are you so fucking loud?
I'm trying to get the energy up before the show. I get it.
God damn.
All right.
You want me to chow-wow-wow bark?
Yeah.
Turn the speaker box down a little bit.
Use your inside voice.
You had the tracksuit yesterday.
Had the internet ablaze.
We're going to talk about that later in the show.
They can't afford it.
Damn.
What color was it? Purple.
Laker purple. Purple. It was Laker purple?
I don't know. Okay.
It was in a closet with the rest of the shit up in it.
We're going to talk about it later in the show.
They have some unique perspectives on it.
We got Rashad McKenzie in the building
with the crown and the George
Gervin.
And we got Bubba Dub with us on a back-to-back.
Yeah.
We need a same energy
Okay got that money green
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If you would have picked a step higher last night, you would have got a bag, Gil.
Did you do it?
You lost.
Listen, I was 0 for 8.
Damn.
You didn't get none? All 8 lost. Did you do it? You lost. Listen, I was 0 for 8. Damn.
You didn't get made or anything?
All 8 lost.
I missed one.
I felt good, too.
Like, yeah.
Oh, shit.
Red.
Who betrayed you the most?
I went 0 for 8.
Everybody.
That's everybody.
It wasn't close, though?
No, everybody lost.
I had one.
Damn.
Oh, shit.
Four rebounds from a big man.
Three.
Damn.
Come on, man.
Yeah.
It was Hubert Jones.
Herbert Hubert, whatever his name is for the Pelicans.
I don't know, man.
I was just hitting people, man.
He killed me.
This one, I'm just lost.
Killed me.
You'll get it back, though.
That's the great part about underdog.
We're going to get our money back at some point.
They're going to have to break bread.
I don't know that's how that works. Tell me how it works. I don're going to have to break bread. I don't know that's how that works.
Tell me how it works.
I don't think that's how it works.
I need a re-up.
I'm broke.
I need a re-up.
Oh, shit.
But we're going to talk about the future of the game.
First, the McDonald's All-American game was Tuesday night.
Kentucky commit DJ Wagner.
Did his thing.
Got MVP.
First third generation McDonald's All-American.
Joining his grandfather, Milt, his dad, De's All-American, joining his grandfather Milt,
his dad DeJuan.
And on the girls side, you had Juju Watkins, did her thing.
And Hannah Hidalgo, 26 points record for the girls game.
South Jersey came through with both MVPs.
But let's be real.
We know who the real star of the game was, was Bronny.
A lot of people said he didn't belong in the game, he didn't deserve to be there,
he only got in because of nepotism.
Bronny came out with a cool 15, 5 for 8 from 3, he was one off from the 3-point record
in the game, had Daddy sit in front row.
So girl I ask you first, did Bronny look like he belonged at that McDonald's game?
Yes, I mean, you know, Bronny's one of the top guards in the country, no matter if you like it or not.
You know, most people
are based off of stats, right?
You know, some guys are fortunate,
some kids are fortunate
to be on teams
where they get to
try to score every time.
He was on a team
where he had to try to win games,
you know, and, you know,
when you're playing for a big team
like, you know, Sierra Canyon,
you're not allowed to be selfish.
Right?
So averaging 14, the next person's 15, so, you know, so you, you're not allowed to be selfish. Right? So averaging 14, the next person's 15, someone.
So, you know, you got about six guys in double digits.
So it's really hard to really get off like that.
So it's hard to really just say how good he is.
So as you can see, you know, 15, 5, or 8.
So, you know, he can shoot that thing.
He's a point.
He can jump.
So, you know, the game is there.
Rashad, what you think?
I mean, the proof is in the pudding, right?
You got to look at how they play in the McDonald's games now.
I think it's a lot more competitive where they take it personal now
because the rankings are where they are.
Who you play in high school now matters, right?
So you got Sierra Canyon being a big boarding school
type of school.
And I came in under those boarding school type of,
type of schools as well.
So playing against a regular high school,
it's like you go in there, you're going to get buckets.
So the American, the McDonald's All-American game
is your, your, your metric.
It's your, it's your standard.
Like, where do I put myself in this game?
So for him to show up and show out,
it means something, right? It means that he should be taken seriously. You know what I'm saying? So
I think him, DJ, the Isaiah kid that was the point guard, really good. There's a lot of kids
that went unnamed just because Bronny was there. He kind of overshadowed a lot of guys that got a
lot of good skill, but he's definitely deserved to be there for sure.
So you played in the McDonald's game.
You was throwing up the X, I remember, back in those days.
Yeah, I was 23.
I was 23.
You was throwing up which X?
Yeah.
For DMX?
It was Carl Krauser.
I don't know if you remember Carl Krauser.
Went to Pitt, right?
Went to Pitt.
He used to do that in our little league in high school,
and I liked it.
I used it as a total domination.
So, Ray Felton was throwing it up.
Mello was throwing it up.
Amari was throwing it up all in the game.
We used it as a metric to dominate the other side.
So, when we played against them West Coasters, we beat the brakes off them.
23-hour lockdown.
You said you had 23
But JJ ready got the MVP up. Yeah, this coach was the coach was the coach
But JJ's coach was the coach JJ ready was MVP
2002 he was
And he was going to Duke he was going to UNC he was
Do you feel some type of way boo?
So basically the best white boy in the last couple, you know, last 20-something years since the 80s
is basically J.J. Reddick
because that's the biggest war
that's been...
All right, J.J.,
I play with him.
Yeah.
What you think about
Bronny out there
doing his thing?
I loved it.
And I know everybody's saying
he get all the attention
and he fucking should.
That is Bron.
Simple as that.
He should get all the attention.
But I just like the fact
that he went out there,
he played his game. He's not going to be Bron. We know that. And I think like the fact that he went out there, he played his game.
He's not going to be brun.
We know that.
And I think he's accepted that, that he know he's not his dad, he his own man.
And I love that.
And I'm sick of the hate, man.
They be hating on this kid.
I'm going to be honest.
They be hating on a lot of NBA player kids just because who their parents was
and he ain't this and he ain't that.
A lot of them just mad because their kids ain't got no emotion.
And that's okay.
Because the kids ain't got to be NBA players or football players.
They can be doctors and lawyers and all that.
But stop hating on these stars' kids because they in positions that your kids are not.
There's just a lot of hate in the barbershop.
Man, he can't do this.
He can't do that.
You can't get your girl to cook you breakfast.
But you're going to be talking about goddamn Bernie James.
17, 18-year-old millionaire.
You 45 years old and got $2,000 in your bank account.
But you got an opinion, though.
Shut the hell up and enjoy life, man.
Let that boy ball.
That's how I really feel about pride.
No, for sure.
And I respect it.
I love it.
But we talk about the LeBron-Bronnie comparisons.
Obviously, Bronnie's not on the level that LeBron is.
Wait, whoa.
Yet.
By the same time when Bronnie was there, Bronny's richer than Bron was.
I'm talking about a skill level.
Yeah.
He's richer than Bron was.
Crazy as hell.
Bron had a $100 million contract.
No, no, no.
That came in the summer.
What you mean?
We ain't summertime yet.
So technically, as of right now, Bronny is richer.
Well, that's the only thing you heard of. The only thing Bronny had was a guy that was a paper dope kill
We talk about what you talk about on paper that in his account the hundred million was on paper
After what we talked about the under the four months don't we talk about the under the table?
No, we talked about three months from now. Yo, don't we talk about the under the table? He had a
Junior year he was getting paid. No, he was with Nike.
He was with Adidas in junior year.
He came to Nike as a senior.
That summer?
No, going into his senior year.
That summer going into his senior year.
No, but I was going to say he was with Nike,
but when they went into negotiations,
he was with Adidas and all of them,
and Adidas said, no, you're not worth it.
Before he got that deal, he was still getting bags.
No, not seven million
dollars.
Hey, Bronny, you richer than your daddy at the same age.
Walk in the house
with a big piece
of chicken, god damn it. If you know, you know.
If you know, you know.
We just want to say, as tough as it was
for LeBron coming from the situations he came
from to make it to the league, how impressive
is it for Bronny to reach this level with his privilege of a life that he's had?
It's harder. It's harder because he doesn't have the same condition, so he doesn't have
the same uphill battle. His battle is, I have everything I want. You're telling me go out
there and I got big screen TV, I got 70 inches. I got my own video game. You know, he was making money since freshman on video gaming alone.
You know, I got cars.
I got this big ass house.
I don't need to go outside.
What the hell I want to go outside for?
You know what I mean?
It's not like he had a neighborhood where he get to have friends.
He lived in his own community himself.
LeBronism.
They had compounds.
It's just him. So you know when you say like having
that oomph to really go out there and do something, like you can see that alright I want to be
my own, this is what I want to do. So the work ethic he's put in, you know the last
two years, like how many games he even played his, his sophomore year he got hurt right?
Yeah I think he got hurt a little bit this year. Well, you knew he was his own man
when he was smoking weed. Yeah.
You know what I'm saying? He knew that then.
With the good form. Yeah, yeah.
Pressure, too. Pressure, too.
He was not a rookie.
He said, what did daddy say?
We put five
in that wood.
He ain't taking that wood.
That's just young stuff. But, you know, right ain't whooping shit, man. I got money too.
You know, that's just young stuff.
But you know, right now, like the change, the change I've seen him in the last two years
really take it serious.
You can see that he's really like, this is what I really want to do.
It's his to lose.
Like this star status, the pedestal we putting him on now, it's up to him whether or not he lives up to go beyond his pops or just be another
fizzled out former player's son that didn't live up to the hype.
I think that he can do some things that his dad never really did.
Yeah, shoot.
You better shoot.
You can shoot that motherfucker.
He can shoot that motherfucker.
Yeah, he can shoot.
He can shoot that motherfucker for real.
Shoot a dribble.
Yeah. You're dribble. Yeah.
Drew better than Bronco.
But then you think about like the scrutiny,
like you said, the microscope.
Like what we looking at, we waiting for him to mess up.
Like it's going to be up to him.
Like if he take the Kobe mentality of really,
really locking in to the game and taking advantage of being
like Gil talked about the elite level thinker,
being a step ahead of your defense and all of those things if he takes that into account going into the future
You're gonna be oh man all world
But if they don't if he take it to this cloud culture and just I'm Who I am and I don't gotta do this
They're gonna be out this ass but the thing I like about you know, you in a player you be a stars like
Yeah, I have advantage over everybody.
Like LeBron. I can send my son,
bring it to Gilbert, let Gilbert check him out.
Or T-Bag, or Kobe, the rest of the people still alive.
I'm going to send my son to everybody I know
so he can learn something from
them to give him that advantage.
And that's what I like that LeBron did.
He had him working out with different people and working
on his son. Not just him.
Even though he could be like, I'm the best in the game,
I can teach you everything.
No.
I'm going to send you over here, teach you how to dribble,
teach you how to shoot, have a finishing move,
because LeBron, to me, don't have a finishing move.
You know what I'm saying?
Mm-hmm.
And a lot of people always try to discredit LeBron for that.
But look how great he is without it.
Just think about it.
LeBron had a finishing move he could go to.
So I just like that part of the game that he giving his kids,
and not only LeBron because it's Melo and everybody else, Gilbert,
all y'all.
You're giving your kids a chance to be better than you.
Sometimes, like, man, I don't want my kids to play ball.
We rich.
We good.
Like you say, Brody ain't doing that.
I know I'm LeBron's son.
I got everything I want, but I want it myself, though. Like you say, he can walk't doing it. I know I'm LeBron's son. I got everything I want, but I want it myself though.
You know, so like you say,
he could walk through the house with his chest out.
We ain't had this kind of money at this age.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
At this age, man, maybe four, five months from now,
yeah, yeah, you got the hundo.
But right now, I'm the big man.
You talk about Bronny having more bread than his dad
at this particular point.
So he hasn't even graduated high school yet,
still hasn't picked a college, but he's got an NIL valuation.
He's the top earner at $7.2 million.
That's what his value is with his 12 million followers,
basically on that scale that put out.
So y'all experienced this when y'all got to the league,
but put yourself in that college mind frame.
How would it feel to be able to call your head coach a broke boy
before you even played a college game?
And are you taking them seriously? I mean, I was call your head coach a broke boy before you even play the college game? And are you taking them seriously?
I mean, I was calling my head coach a broke boy.
He makes $5 million.
You can't talk to me unless you make $10.
Right?
You was getting a bag in college.
You was getting a bag.
In college?
You were able to call your coach a broke boy.
So if you was making more than Luke coming into U of A. Wait, hold, hold, hold, bag. In college? You'd be able to call your coach a broke boy. So if you was
making more than Luke coming into U of A...
Wait, hold, hold, hold, hold. Let's just be honest.
If I made...
If I had $7 million
walking into college...
Different.
It's a different world, Gil.
It's a whole different world.
Would you have made it out?
Bro, I had 40,000.
I had five TVs on the Lexus playing porn.
You can ask stories about it.
I was playing, you know, immature back then.
You know how we had to flip TVs in the back and that thing?
Bumping porn.
Bumping porn?
How do you bump porn?
How do you bump porn?
Just sitting there having it loud. You do you bump born? 412.
That's the ambiance music in the back.
412.
Motherfuckers in there.
That shit seem cool as hell.
That's why I said
the shit you do
at certain ages,
you shouldn't even get judged until after 24.
After a certain age, you should like the shit that I did
that I thought was good.
Now I got seven million.
Walking in with seven?
Bro.
In 2023, too.
It's different.
You had the DVD.
This was a different time.
DVD.
You had the DVD. This was a different time. DVD. You had the DVD.
You had the Black-
Booty Talk 58.
You hit the button, and then it slide down.
Just right past the student section.
Just, yeah, what's happening, y'all?
Booty Talk 58.
Booty Talk.
I was just thinking, what was it?
Booty Talk 58.
It had to be Booty Talk 58. That's the one that had the thinking, what was it? Booty Talk 58. It had to be Booty Talk 58.
That's the one that had the music in the background.
You be bumping that shit.
All right, so let's talk about LeBron.
Some people in the Square media took issue with LeBron pulling up to Houston
for the McDonald's All-American game.
We don't name squares on this show.
Wait, wait, you were mad that he went there?
So mad that LeBron went to the McDonald's game Tuesday night
when the Lakers have a game in Chicago Wednesday.
Y'all feeling it?
I love it.
That's his son.
Wait, hold on.
He got a private jet.
He got a private jet.
Say that again.
So mad at LeBron for going to Houston on a Tuesday
when the Lakers had a game Wednesday in Chicago against the Bulls
with their playoff hopes.
Who said this?
The internet.
Who said it?
No. The square internet, dude. Someone said this. The square internet. You know who said this? No, no. The internet. Who said it? No.
The square internet, dude.
Someone said this.
The square internet.
You know who said it.
Who?
Was it a Jordan fan?
It was a 68 percenter.
Was it a Jordan fan?
So they're not going to talk about
when Jordan went to Vegas,
fucked up all night gambling,
winning money,
then came and scored that,
what, 55 against New York.
Now we're just going to pretend
that didn't happen.
We're not in another city.
He's more Atlantic City. Okay, it don't matter. He was We're not in another city. He more Atlantic City.
Okay, it don't matter.
He was out not in New York.
You know, it's funny though, when people talk about MJ and like, oh, he was a dog,
he didn't rock with dudes.
Like, you used to hear stories about him playing cards with the Knicks all night.
All night.
Because he was taking money though.
What I'm saying, before afternoon games.
That's a negative.
What I'm saying is going up, what he was doing is he had an advantage over them. Yeah, he knew his body
He only needed two hours of sleep and he's back. So he just keeping him up all night. Yeah
Man let that man go watch it. So this is what I hit about like who's that?
Who said that people you say people's like a people on that Takashi, bro?
Like a people said they really I want to be able to shoot it right at him.
If his son had a game, one of probably the biggest games in high school besides USA basketball,
you telling your son that you're not going to show up and you got a job to do tomorrow?
Shut the fuck up.
And I got a private jet.
That sounds stupid.
And I got a private jet.
I got my own jets.
What I'm saying is, your son play tomorrow.
Your work is tomorrow.
And your son got a game today.
And you telling me you're not going to show up to your kid?
Try that shit.
Come on.
Try that shit at home.
LeBron made it back home to just get on the Twitch and play video games when he got back
to the crib.
Anyway.
Better be in that hyperchamber.
Yeah, you know he ain't working on that foot.
Shit, yeah.
Ain't nothing wrong with that foot.
Bullshit. We got a game play today
Wednesday
He gonna have 30 on them opening a mouth he needs to dirty he has to be better had to hurry
They didn't go has 80 back in Chicago to back home. He's a team. Huh? He gonna have 17 whatever the number is
It's the Austin Reeves show.
Austin going out for 30.
AR.
15.
30.
I just want to say, this is your show, but you just came at me for being too loud.
You was all up in my ear.
You almost knocked my ear off.
I thought I was yelling.
My bad.
No, it's all good.
Okay.
You're right.
Okay.
All right, but let's keep this thing moving.
Let's talk about the other big news today.
KD returned to the Suns
Miss the last 10 games with that sprained ankle. Oh, you gonna do it
You mother
You be playing basketball and pelican
Going in upstairs, you know, I'm gonna just be on some bullshit today, You know, I got you know, I got you
There you go a little bit just a little bit but Katie missed the last 10 games after that freak ankle injury slipping on the
Court sons have been pretty mid without that two-time finals MVP for six in her last same game
We're still holding down that four seed in the West
But six of the last seven games are against teams currently in the playoff
play-in, including two meetings
with the Nuggets. So a question
for you, Gil, we'll start. Is seven
games enough for this Suns team to build
chemistry before the playoffs start?
I mean, the Suns team already
have chemistry. With Kevin?
With Kevin? I mean, we've seen what they look
like when he was there, so nobody's worried
about that. You know, he's a plug-and-play
shooter. He can get his own thing, so it's not like he needs to blend in with anybody
him Devin Booker and
CP they trained in the summer together. So they already know how each other play I
Just I feel the same way. I just hope CP three-year-old mentally
You know, I just hope CP3 girl mentally, he'll be all right.
I'm not going to say that shit.
I got lemonade.
I got lemonade.
That shit on your lip got some shit on your lip.
Oh, you thought I had the thing on my... You thought I was...
You thought I hit the boogal sugar.
We did record Jadon's dirty one episode.
I think he had some shit for a good portion of the show.
We might have just didn't see it.
I think this year though, CP3, they got to get it done this year.
He got to, CP3 been through too much this year with that Ye shit.
You know what I'm saying?
He went on trash streak, about 12 bad games when Kanye said what he said.
But it's time to get it together.
You got KD, you not familiar?
No, so that was the real thing?
It had to be and he was terrible after that, bro.
Cause I seen it was him and then there was a white dude above and I just figured it was a white boy.
Nah, that was three.
Or both.
That's a diversion.
I mean you look at the Suns, right? And I think that we all look at the bright side.
You say yes.
The bright side is KD gon' come in and it's gonna look good
yes they gonna do the thing until they don't then you're gonna be like you can
be like this what the fuck happened they didn't have enough time they only had
seven games KD's hurt steal his and it's like man look let's get over the hump
they gotta get it done with who they got.
Devin Booker going to have to figure it out.
CP going to have to step it up.
Aiton going to have to finally rebound more than 10 motherfucking boards
and score more than 20 points.
You're going to have to go all out.
You're going to have to do more.
Wait, wait, wait.
He had to average more than 10 boards, more than 20 points.
Who? Yeah, I was going to say who? Aiton. Oh, no. He ain't going to be able to do more. Wait, wait, wait. He had to average more than 10 boards, more than 20 points. Who?
Yeah, I was going to say who?
Ayton.
Oh no, he ain't going to be able to get that.
Ayton, Booker, and CP are going to have to step it up if KD is not able to come back
and be who he is.
This is why he needs to be drug tested.
This man said Ayton needs to do more than 10 and 20.
So he got to be in B.
Yes.
Yeah, and B's putting up 30 pieces.
He got to just be proficient. He's got to be a big man.
He needs to be 12 and 10.
No, no, no.
Hold on.
Wait a minute.
So he said he has to do more than 20 and 10.
Then say the person again.
You want me to say it again?
No, say the person again.
Do you want me to?
Let me categorize it.
CP not giving us more than 10 and 10.
Okay.
So Devin Booker's left with a bulk of the scoring.
Yes.
Right?
So let's just cap him at 30.
Cap him at 30.
That's 30 and 10.
That's 40 points.
40 points.
All right.
We need another 30 more points.
Okay.
We're going to get 20 from Aiton.
We're going to get 10 from maybe
Shamit.
Maybe get 5
from the
Torrey Craig.
The utility players.
But Aiton got to
step up since
Durant is not there.
If Durant come back
we don't have to
depend on him to do that.
He can be 10 and 10.
He can be solid.
But the fact that
KD not there
and they not where they at now standing? 4. They're be solid. But the fact that KD not there and they not... Where they at
now standing? Four.
They're at four. We're averaging what?
Same shit he was averaging. 17 and
8. True. Pull it up.
18 and 8, something like that. So he's averaging
8, 17. And that ain't enough.
You giving his man... I gotta give him
three more points, two more rebounds. No, no, no.
You said he have to average. 18 and 10 right now.
Boom. Come on, man. You said 20 and 10. He gotta do more than 20 and 10. Two more points. two more rebounds. No, no, no, no. You said he had to average. 18 and 10 right now. Boom. Come on, man. You said 20 and 10.
He got to do more than 20 and 10.
Two more points.
So 22 and 10.
21 and 10.
Give me 21 and 10 for Aiden.
And I'm betting with the Suns.
Without KD.
Without him.
Without him.
But with him, it ain't no excuse.
They love so much defensively for Wigagnum.
Even if he do that, they're not winning nothing.
So, I feel that, too.
I feel that, too.
Hey, man, you just put too much pressure on the man.
You got to.
It's playoff time.
And then he incapable.
We got to see it.
25-12.
Pressure.
Number one pick.
Pressure.
And number one pick.
Yeah, he was number one pick.
Cool.
Pressure.
Pressure's on.
Y'all remember who the number three pick was? Of what year? That same year. Number two pick. Yeah, he was number one pick. Pressure. Pressure's on. Y'all remember who the number three pick was?
Of what year?
That same year.
Number two pick?
Number three?
It was Luka.
Nah, it was one mold.
Fat Luka.
That's not Luka.
Nah, it was one mold.
Lamello Ball.
Yeah, see, yeah, yeah.
Y'all don't know.
Because none of that shit means anything.
Y'all don't remember, huh?
He went to Sierra Canyon.
Enlightened us. Marvin Bagley. Yeah. Y'all forgot? Y'all forgot He went to Sierra Canyon. Enlightened us.
Marvin Bagley.
Yeah.
Y'all forgot?
Y'all forgot about him?
In Detroit.
Yeah, yeah.
So we don't care about the numbers.
We care about your product.
Facts.
He ain't been capable of scoring 20 and 10, 22 and 10, 25 and 10.
So I'm not going to say B and B.
That's too much goddamn pressure for that kid.
Listen, Aaron.
All right, you just do what you do.
Right?
You average 18 and 10.
Give me 18 and 10.
We good.
So what's different?
And you remember, playoffs is real different.
18 and 10 got to be with passion and depth.
No, what I'm saying is the playoffs is different.
Yeah.
Like, if you average 18 and 10 in regular season, for you to be a star, that's 20 and
You up your production. 20 and 10.
Yes. Just two points. Yes.
You don't think he capable? Hell no.
Just give me 18 and 10.
Come on, Gil. But look, that's standard.
We're talking about standard. We're talking
about the standard right now. All season
he gave us 18 and 10.
The elite.
The elite move
up. Yeah.
Everybody else moves down.
You're not betting with them. So if he's averaging 18 and 10 in regular season, 16 and 8, 16 and 9 is what I'm expecting.
That's just how it works.
I'm just saying this.
Klay Thompson, 22 in regular season, 19 playoffs.
KD, if KD is not back at KD level, we depending on Aiton to be 20.
We got to expect two more points from a guy.
If KD come back and he giving us 18-20, we don't need.
If KD's giving us 18-20 when he come back, we don't need Aiton giving us 18-10.
This man said KD 18-20.
You better bump it up 10.
I said if.
I'm saying if.
This is on a bad will if KD's giving us 20.
25 to 35.
Boom.
We wouldn't even need Aiden to give us 18 at that point.
When you look at that squad though, you talked about CP3.
CP3 hasn't won a ring.
Obviously, D-Book hasn't won a ring.
KD, you don't have no pressure on him.
He got two championships, two finals MVP. Who on that squad right now should be feeling like they have not bullshit
It's still pressure. It's pressure, but it ain't I've already done this
It's pressure y'all have it. Yeah, I get what you saying on that, but see
CP3 Katie Devin Booker and hey, you know, you don't win the championship? Trash.
Trash. Ain't no other way around it.
The pressure's on, like, as a hooper,
the pressure's more on CP because he knows
he only has a few good years left, right?
There's only a few years left where he has impact, right?
I know he doesn't
want to go down
as one of those
players that
you know he wins it
on his way out
where he's playing
five ten minutes
like you don't
you know you don't do
you don't have that
type of career
and then you like
okay here's a
championship
and you're one of
those type of guys
like you want to be
able to say
I earned this
you know what I mean
and I think that this year next year is like after that if you don't win it of guys, you want to be able to say, I earned this.
I think that this year, next year, if you don't win it this year or next year, it's
one of those things like, I ain't even going on to this team and it's going to be a backup
and try to get me a little win.
He don't win it this year.
He'll stay for it.
Commercials going to... somebody else going to be there. So how, like, so, okay, so the pressure, how is it on CP when he don't really control
the narrative of that pressure?
He's not gonna be-
Because he's not-
He's not gonna be the difference maker.
He's on the end of his career.
But he's not gonna be the difference maker.
He's on the end of his career.
I'm not talking about, it's the pressure to win one, it's the pressure for him to get
a ring.
Okay. You know what I mean? It's like, you know, when Barkley and them, they sitting there like, oh, shit, I ain't got one of these things.
Houston, let me come on over there.
You know, that type of shit.
You know what I mean?
So that's what I'm saying.
Like, not pressure for, like, the world, just personal pressure.
Like, man, I need to hurry up and just, you know, say I won one.
So he don't go on that tour trying to win one.
Yeah, but the pressure here is more, you know
It's like I think for you know as a group I
Think all of them together
Probably has that same weight that you know, they're still
You know, Katie wants one one more
Booker's like, you know, if I win one you guys gonna start respecting my goddamn name
Yeah, right. You know, this is all going to start respecting my goddamn name. Right?
This is all the shit I do in here, y'all keep putting these bums in front of me.
And then you have Chris Paul, where it's like, just come on.
I just need one.
So I think all of them hold that burden together.
So when the trade first went down, the Suns became a lot of people's favorites.
Come out the West, potentially win a chip.
But I want to know which teams in the West can beat the Suns in a seven game series.
Everyone's healthy?
No one.
Woo!
Because right now it just shakes out.
And you got the Clippers, P.G. and Mabee back in time.
We'll see.
But four or five would be Suns Clippers.
Let's just say in a hypothetical world
sons Clippers
Clippers go get their ass with the gear They lost to a Luka. Let me not a Dallas Mavericks
They lost to a Luka
They've also smacked Luka to yeah, you probably right, but if I could give a decent dinosaur milk
I'm pushing the SM game. It's all I'm pushing that game. That's all I'm saying. But then you got the next round.
If things pan out and the favorites win, you got Nugget,
Suns, and that one four.
Suns.
Suns.
We winning the chip!
We winning the chip!
Oh.
We winning the chip.
It look good.
It look good.
I need to get back to my Arizona roots.
It look good.
Again, a hypothetical world, the way things are playing out, you would see the Grizzlies win the game. It look good. I need to get back to my Arizona roots.
Again, a hypothetical world, the way things are playing out,
you would see the Grizzlies in that Western Conference Finals.
Grizzlies ain't beating those Suns, bro.
See?
You see how this shit works out?
That was KD on there.
Yo.
KD a different breed.
My question is, does KD last the duration of the playoffs?
That's the question.
We got seven games.
And then we got, all right, seven games, playoffs start.
Can he make the first round, that whole series? We said everyone healthy.
We did.
We said everyone healthy.
We did.
We already put that disclaimer.
We said everybody healthy.
I'm going with the sons of everybody healthy, fordammit. We said everybody healthy. Yeah, I'm going with the sons.
I'm going with the sons of everybody healthy, for sure.
Damn, now everybody healthy, that means the Lakers.
Everybody healthy, bro.
We got a conversation we gonna have.
So we gonna keep this thing moving.
Some dudes been out there cooking, so you already know.
We gotta show them some love with hibachi time.
But you're gonna appreciate this one, Gil.
Okay.
Hibachi!
So first, gotta start with Chef Curry.
39 points, 8 for 15 from 3.
8 rebounds, 3 assists, and the Warriors win versus the Pelicans.
Put the team on its back coming from down 20.
To hold on to that coveted 6 seed right now.
Because that 6 seed means that you're playing the Kings.
And like Draymond said, you want to keep that travel low.
Keep it light.
They just got to go to
Sacramento as opposed to yeah traveling out yonder so Steph's flirting with another 40 or another 50
40 90 season on pace to become the second player in NBA history to average 29 29 with six and six
over the age of 34 joining LeBron James who's done it once it's on pace to do it twice if this season
holds up but the Warriors have been mid, obviously, by regular season standards.
But that's the regular season.
So I want to know, we talked about all these teams that can't get with the Suns.
Does anyone want smoke with the Warriors in the playoffs?
Yeah.
I know a few weeks ago I said no.
But the fact that, you know, Wiggins hasn't been there, I don't-
The smoke machine works again too, just in case you want to-
I don't know, what the fuck that got to do with what I was just saying?
I'm just telling you, if you want to hit the smoke.
Okay.
All right.
So we just going, all right.
I asked you, does anyone want smoke with the Warriors?
Say it again.
Does anyone want smoke with the Warriors?
This should not work.
This should not work, you said.
They lied to you.
So nobody want no smoke out of you.
Nobody want no smoke.
All right.
The white boys lied to you.
No.
Damn it, Todd.
What happened, Todd?
No, what I'm saying is
since Wiggins,
since Wiggins not there
who's a great defensive player
for them,
I think it really hurts
them defensively.
And, you know,
if you're going to jump
on the Warriors,
it is right now
since Wiggins
is out of the mix.
It's not the same,
it's not the same team
defensively anymore.
They don't have that junkyard guy
who's just going to be athletic,
get things that, you know,
and Iggy's out.
So, you know, they're losing key pieces.
Iggy 50, though. Iggy 50.
Yeah, but he still keeps everybody
in control.
Yeah, you know.
He still keeps everybody in control.
So, if Wiggins comes back, does that change your perspective?
I agree with him.
I got to agree with Gil because they not the same team.
When you talk about playoff basketball, we go half court, got to slow the game down,
got to play defense.
They haven't been able to prove that they can stop a goddamn nothing.
They ain't stopping nothing. So now you look at pieces that are missing.
They do got chemistry offensively.
You got to give them that.
They still going to keep clicking.
But it's more so now like, all right,
who y'all going to stop on the other side?
And how consistent can you be?
And I don't really trust them just because half-court basketball playoffs,
we understand how to neutralize Steph.
And we know that Clay is
an iffy kind of guy in the playoffs
when it comes down to if he's going to get the ball
and get enough shots. So then you got
Jordan Poole, who's been our X-Factor
for the last two years.
He's going to be the one that's like, alright,
can he do it? But everybody
else, I ain't
rolling. I think they done.
I think it's time to blow
it up.
I think they done.
Great story. It's done.
It's done.
The dynasty's done? It's done.
Everybody get over it, though. It's suspected.
Draymond, not the same Draymond.
Klay, definitely not the same Klay.
Kerr ain't coaching the same as he
been. And just be real about it.
Ain't always the players to coach him to.
Kerr done got a little too lax
on certain things just because of their standard.
We go to the state, we can come back. So he ain't calling
timeouts like he normally do when other
teams go on spurts. They terrible on the road.
Trash,
as you would say. 9-29.
9-29? Yeah, on the road, bro. That sounds like Houston Rockets.
Yeah.
They're-
And if they had-
Oh, yeah.
If they had been who they are and worn rings and that nature, if I'm the owner of
Golden State, I'd be whispering to you, Curry, here too.
About to be over for you, fuck boy.
About to be over for you, fuckboy.
About to be over for you, fuckboy.
But since they got the rings,
they ain't going to do that
because, you know, but...
Like, I know Klay,
this is going to be
probably Klay's
hardest playoffs
because now,
by himself,
he has to be able
to try to stop
every boring guard
that there is. He's going to try to stop every boring guard that there is.
He's going to have to guard the scoring point,
whoever the scoring two is, goddamn the scoring three.
So he's going to run his legs tired.
Like he already, like there was one, he had to go what?
Paul George.
He had to go Paul George. He had to go Paul George.
He had to go Damian.
Like, it was one of those where, like, every single playoff series,
you're just like, I feel bad for this man.
You know what I mean?
Because he's playing both sides of the court.
So, it's hard to play defense against a scoring guard and then try to score.
As it would look right now, he'd have to go against Aaron Fox.
Okay. If they got past that and the Grizzlies now, he'd have to go against Aaron Fox. Okay.
If they got past that and the Grizzlies won, he'd have
to go. John Morant.
And them motors.
Constant motors. And then
has that Devin Booker or KD.
Constant motors.
You know what I mean? So without Wiggins,
he loses his
legs faster.
Now you see why I don't play defense.
Like, I can't get tired, too.
But does Clay take that seat just because it's needed for the team?
Because Clay says he's a team guy?
I'm a team guy.
I'm going to guard whoever we need to guard.
He ain't going to stop what he's naturally good at.
He can't do that.
He's not going to stop.
He would never do that.
But back to the Suns on this one, on the new team.
Aiden need Jermaine O'Neal touches.
You think so?
Is he a good post player?
I'm just telling you, he can give us two more.
Give us 20.
20 and 10.
I mean, how is he getting his points?
They running it through him. They got to. They running it through him. You he can give us two more give us 20 20. How does he get his points? They run in the dorm
They run in it. Do them they not passing the ball of him and he's sitting there doing they running it through him
They got to ain't no ad and then you got Booker getting his shots. He's gonna lie to you, man
I've never watched the Sun game. There you go. Here we go. Now's a good time to start CP a man
Oh, where you getting his assistance book and a
Alright, I believe you but let's let's talk about another player on the Warriors
About another player on the Warriors again, oh, yeah, okay Draymond green. Oh, yeah, man
Was turned all the way up in that game against the Pelicans
Got into with several Pelicans players got that flagrant for for shoving bi with the tech
Then cameras caught him, you know, you just a foul language
Some people thought it was that bi some people thought it was that CJ McCollum, but does it matter?
He doesn't okay, then he tried to kick her Jones in the head allegedly
Some would say that's his natural motion. like when he was kicking all them dicks a
few years ago.
Damn.
The follow through.
He kicked a lot of dicks.
Wow.
It was a lot of dicks getting kicked.
We'll use another word.
Damn, that's a-
It was a lot of-
It's a flammatory.
It's a flammatory.
It's a flammatory.
A habitual dick kick.
A habitual meat touch.
Meat touch.
This is Roman Sharma.
This is Roman Sharma.
We're using another word. We're getting Shaw, man. This is Roman Shaw, man.
We over here to Superbad now.
Just drawing dicks.
Just drawing them.
Draymond got his 17th attack.
He didn't get ejected from that game.
He gets one more in the regular season.
I think he's suspended.
I forget how the playoff stuff breaks down,
but I think he might get a clean slate come the playoffs.
But when you look at Draymond, you know,
he's getting basically that superstar treatment in terms of what he's able to do to officials how he's able to move on the course I want to ask you to go first does Draymond deserve superstar treatment from the refs? Yes
Easy is a vet four-time
champ
Defensive player of the year all-team defense. Yeah, why not? So he gets it? Yes
I think he just looks bad
when he does it, when we're watching.
It looks so bad
when he's talking to the refs, but they got so
much respect for him because of the
way he approaches them when he's cussing them
out. It's a certain way to cuss
a motherfucker out and be polite about
it. Like, man, your motherfucking ass is
terrible, but listen now, just let me talk
to you. Call the next motherfucking foul is terrible. But listen, I'll just talk to you. Call the
next motherfucking foul. He literally listen like you look at Sheen and kg and how they
was talking. They had respect from them refs. Like you get respect and then you add the
pedigree. But she was getting text for the side. I look with the walls arrest. He didn't
like though. Those are the rest. He didn't here with the wax. Those are refs he didn't like, though. Those are the refs he didn't like.
Those are the refs that didn't like him.
That, too.
So it's like, you know, when you got that energy,
it's one thing or another.
But Draymond is respected to certain refs
where he can go overboard, and they'll be like,
all right, Draymond, calm your ass down now
before I give you one.
You play with KG.
Draymond kind of on that level in terms of the generational trash talker.
Does it come to a point, though, because it seems to me even still, guys know what to expect from him,
but he's still going to get under their skin.
He's just one of them dudes.
KG has seemed more like, this motherfucker's just crazy.
We've accepted it.
Like Gil said, KG talked to himself.
He's talking to all of us?
Who is he talking to? Like, what the fuck? Like, Draymond is talked to herself. He's Talking to all the buses. Who is he talking to?
Like what the like Draymond is talking to you
Ticket just loud you like talking to the fans
Talk but I never get tiring or you like I need that cuz that's gonna help take me to another level
I need that emotion them antics for me. me to another level. I need that emotion, them antics.
For me, I fed off of it because I did the same thing.
I loved that.
I did it in college.
So when I seen Ticket do it, I felt like it was a green light for me to do it.
You know what I'm saying?
But I think other guys who not, they don't like that shit.
It gets exhausting to hear a motherfucker talking the whole game.
Come on, man. You still talking? Could you shut up? No. No. It's exhausting to hear a motherfucker talking the whole game.
Come on man, you still talking?
Could you shut up?
No.
No.
What you think, bud?
He deserved it.
He earned it.
He earned it.
We got four rings.
You can't argue with a motherfucker like that.
My argument would be when y'all
NBA players do talk shit to the ref,
motherfucker, call a foul. How would y'all
feel if they holler back, man, shut your whole ass
up.
No, no, no.
Shut your whole ass up.
No, no, no.
That's the thing that I argue
with, right?
You're in
a sport
where it is
trash talking, it is
emotion, it's competitive
and then you're putting these
cornball ass
referees
inside of this thing and they don't
know what they're doing, right?
So I'd rather hear that.
And man, shut your sorry ass up.
Don't get mad at me
because you can't
shoot the fucking...
I would rather have that
than sitting here
as soon as I say something,
you're giving me a text.
Like, you're not ready for this.
Like, stop putting
these rookie ass coaches,
I mean, rookie ass referees,
in this sport.
Like, they gotta...
This should be like
levels to this
because at the end of the day,
when you blow your whistle to call a guy, most of the texts that are being called are we're talking shit to each other.
What the fuck is your problem?
Yeah.
You over here giving, we talking to each other.
You want to step your ass in the motherfucking middle of it.
What y'all talking about?
You know what?
Technical, both of you.
Like, come on.
You know what I mean?
And that's the thing that irritates me about refs.
It's like, why are you giving a, oh, he said some foul things.
How did that affect you personally?
It didn't, right?
Then stay the fuck away.
If they want to sit there and talk, wait until they both hit each other.
When they hit each other, kick them both out.
Other than that, let the players do what the players are doing.
Like, why are the refs so involved emotionally in a game
that they're supposed to call down the middle?
If I'm
a referee, you
have to swing on me
for me to give you a technical.
You sitting there yapping.
You talking back though?
What do I care?
Shut your sorry ass up.
What you gonna do? Say something back? Shut your sorry ass up. Shut your sorry ass up. What you going to do? Say something back.
Shut your sorry ass up.
Shut your sorry ass up.
Shut your sorry ass up.
Again.
Shut your sorry ass up.
Again.
Again.
That's more irritating, right?
Shut your sorry ass up.
Shut your sorry ass up.
What you going to do?
That gets you more mad.
Versus me just blowing a tick.
Now you get fined $10,000.
Come on, man.
Oh, damn.
Now, Bub, you done heard through the grapevine
while watching the game
somebody be like,
man, shut your ass up.
We say that shit
throughout the game.
Now, imagine the ref
saying the same shit.
Stop crying.
Mm-hmm.
Shut your ass up.
Luca.
Luca, all this.
I love it.
Shut your ass up.
Then we become the victim.
He heard what he said to me.
Exactly.
Exactly.
He heard what he said to me. He told Exactly. He heard what he said to me.
He told me to set my ass up.
He told me to shut my ass up.
He told me to shut my ass up.
Luka would be crying too.
He really would be crying this year.
That's the culture though.
We look at the culture of the refs.
Inexperienced man.
It's just, it's like when you see them early, even with the guy with the early, he gave
like three texts in four seconds, right?
You can tell he's one or two, three years in.
He don't know the personalities. Yup. in. He don't know the personalities.
Yep.
Right?
He doesn't know the personalities.
Everyone has their personality.
I know Chris.
Right now, if I'm a referee in the Suns,
I already know.
If Chris Paul don't get his way
when he's trying to force the fouls
and I end up calling the offensive foul,
I know 1,000% that I'm walking the other way.
He going to walk right up to me.
Start getting the yapping. Getting the yapping
so I can give him a technical.
Yo, I already know he coming to yapping.
I'll start skipping on him.
Ah.
He hit the guinea.
There's just so
many other things to do to a player
than give a tech.
Tech means you're weak mentally.
That means you can't handle what they're saying or the environment.
I call a foul.
Block the foul, offensive foul.
Uh-huh, yeah, do it.
Yeah, go on up in there, uh-huh.
Offensive foul.
Sit your stupid ass down. Yep, over there, uh-huh, yeah, do it. Yeah, go on up in there. Uh-huh. Yeah. Offensive foul. Sit your stupid ass down.
Yep, over there.
Uh-huh.
You come back in with the same shit, you're going to have your third one.
Facts.
Yeah, yeah.
I can do that.
That's what I'm saying.
You can do that versus sitting there.
Tech, you hurt my feelings.
What'd you say?
Tech hurt my feelings.
Oh, yeah.
They let RJ ref a game at Summer League last year.
Yeah.
I think they need to let you go ahead and ref a game.
Did he give a tech?
Hell no.
But Mike, you are.
He too goofy.
He's the type of ref.
But those are the type of personalities you want reffing.
He ain't giving no guy.
He'd rather just sit there and talk shit to you.
Yeah, yeah.
That's RJ.
Message you, tell your girlfriend.
Hey, you know your girlfriend waved at me, right?
That'll fucking play up real quick.
Quick.
You know, you're.
Fuck the game. Hey, hey. You think you about to get 30. I'll right. That's right. That's right. That's right.
That's right.
That's right.
That's right.
That's right.
That's right.
That's right.
That's right.
That's right.
That's right.
That's right.
That's right.
That's right.
That's right.
That's right.
That's right.
That's right.
That's right.
That's right.
That's right.
That's right. That's right. That's right. That's right. That's right. you know you can talk shit to and they're not going to give you a tech unless they absolutely have to? The black ones.
They just want to say Tony Brother.
Talking Brother.
Talking Brother, he's 75.
I ain't like Tony Brother, man.
You didn't?
Talking Brother, oh, bro.
I like Tony, man.
Tony was... I like Danny more than I like Tony.
Danny who?
Danny Crawford.
Oh, fuck him.
Almost.
Almost.
No, no, not... He's never done anything to me.
I was playing Chicago
Got jumped for the ball do it man
Boom they're trying to you know, like try to do a foul and hit me out of bounds and I'm sitting there. He's just looking
You get your ass up
You're not gonna call the foul
They just start walking on down court like, oh, this, oh, hell no.
All right, Danny, man.
You know, he's never given me, I mean, that's why he's never given me a technical.
Tony just look weird.
Tony a weird looking motherfucker.
You know what I'm saying?
So I just never, I never trusted the weird looking motherfuckers.
I like violent.
Gucci man, nigga look like Gucci man.
I ain't trust him.
That looks, you know what I'm saying?
Scott Foster look like Tom Cruise for a lot of the time I was in there.
I'm like, you look like Tom Cruise looking ass nigga.
I like Eric.
I like Eric.
Eric was solid.
I like Benny.
Benny was cool.
Benny was one, you can say whatever you want.
That was the one Kobe got fined for.
Ooh.
Ooh.
Yeah, that's the one Kobe got fined for.
But Benny was the type where you can get off your shit and he wasn't going to take it personal.
Joey Crawford was an asshole.
The biggest asshole of all.
Oh, that's what I was thinking.
I was thinking about Joey Crawford.
Danny was the black-
Oh, you're talking about him?
Yeah.
Joey is an asshole.
Yeah.
I like Violet.
You got your Crawford script.
Violet was solid.
I like Violet too.
She cool?
Yeah, Violet was cool as fuck. I've heard a lot of B words being called when she reffing. She I like Violet. I like Violet too. She cool? Yeah, Violet was cool as fuck.
I've heard a lot of B words being called when she reffing.
She was like, man.
Man.
This ain't the first time I've heard it.
That's for damn sure.
All right, this is the last thing about Draymond.
Generational shit talker.
They were down 20, came back and won.
After the game he says, it'd take a real one to talk when you down 20.
He would have made MJ proud.
All he needed was the baseball bat and the cigar.
But let's talk about Draymond's future
with the Warriors. He'll likely opt out
after his final year, right? Try and get a bigger
bag. Will probably be that final
big bag of his career. He's 33 years old.
I got a question for
y'all. Do the Warriors need
Draymond more than Draymond needs
the Warriors?
He needs them Warriors. He needs them Warriors.
Turn up on him.
I see if he goes anywhere else, he's going to become a Tristan
Thompson.
That might be true, but if he leaves that Warriors squad, he seems
like the heart and soul of that team.
That's what I'm saying.
But if he leaves now, you don't have that.
That's what I'm saying.
He needs to be there.
Yeah, I would say I think they need him more because he does too much for them.
Right?
So he leaped for the last, what, how many years?
He's led them in assists.
I don't think Curry has ever led the Gota State Warriors.
Like, if he has, it's said but dream on has led them in assists
Right, which is loud curry to just be focusing on legal screen steals
steals
Rebounds deflections block shots. So he fights. Yeah, but I would have said he leads him in seven seven categories
So what?
Draymond is my underdog pick'em Hall of Famer because I know. He's a Hall of Famer?
Yeah.
My underdog pick-ems
for my underdog pick-ems.
I already know
he's a Hall of Famer
for basketball.
When I'm doing
those pick-ems
and that assist
be at like 6.5.
I'm going higher
every single time.
Every single time.
Because I know
he's going to end up
about three or four
in the first quarter.
Listen, I love
when they have Draymond
around five, six assists.
Like five and six,
five and a half. Yeah, it is
easy. I'm getting your money. Yep. I wish I could only just bet one person. But when
you talk about that team, team is one without KD and obviously KD, Draymond comparatively,
KD probably a much better player. But what Draymond means to this particular team, do
you think that they could get to that championship level again without having him on that roster?
You mean like keeping Steph?
You got Steph.
You got Klay.
I mean.
You got Wiggins.
Or you got.
Like a little kid trying to get me broccoli.
We just never seen the team without Draymond play as well as they've been playing all together.
When?
Stop capping. At When? Stop capping.
At finals?
Stop capping.
I'm talking about without him as a part of the team.
When they lost the championship.
No, no, no.
I'm talking about as a part of the team.
Like him being on the team.
We never seen him without the Warriors and them all be who they are.
So if he leaves, we don't know.
We don't know.
Because someone has to take over assists,
steals, rebounding,
deflections, block shots. So there's no
basketball player in the goddamn
world that can step in and
do that shit. That's what you're telling me.
Draymond Green is so goddamn
valuable that ain't nobody
can come in and pass the ball
to these two gunners
okay so name another player in the nba that has all five six categories i'm not because there is
he's special but he ain't the only one that can do it given the opportunity give a motherfucker
opportunity go out there get rebounds pass to stephen clay and that's all you got to do play
defense they're gonna do it if it's that easy, name one in NBA history. To give the opportunity to.
In NBA history.
To give the opportunity to.
In NBA history.
One, to give the opportunity to.
Two sharpshooters.
You don't got to do nothing but pass to them, rebound and play defense.
Who else has given the opportunity?
You tell me.
In NBA history.
And don't leave by kicking ass.
The teammates.
Everybody.
And kicking the teammates ass.
Everybody.
Nobody.
Everybody.
Jayvon Green is the only ass. Everybody. Nobody. Everybody.
Draymond Green is the only player.
He got to win a fight, too.
That's what I'm saying.
That's what makes him special to that team.
Because he took on all of those responsibilities.
He had to.
We didn't have this conversation.
He didn't have to do that.
Yes, he did.
What other position are you going to take on?
Power forward.
Where's my center?
You got to remember.
What do you have to do as a power forward? Rebound. No, that's your center, bro. That's your center.
What is the power for do then enforcer? Come on, you enforce what does the power what are
you trying to do? He's taking on a Garnett Charles Barkley. Okay, they walk him alone.
Why didn't all of these power forward scored the ball and rebounded the ball did they
block shots and they played steals yes assists they played deflections kg did kg was all around
what did he do and he picked up what did he lead in the team show me give me he led off everything
on the team what do you mean he didn't lead in assists yes he did yes he did google it google it
rebounds assists blocks points all of those things. Big ticks.
Especially me coming into the league.
Just points.
Just points.
He was all around.
The best all around big man in the league when I came in.
We getting this thing moving.
Draymond Green is the only guy we know that can do the things he's doing for that team.
At his height he was putting up five to six.
Never led the team in assists.
I promise you did.
Let me see.
Maybe with y'all. You with us. The sorry ass team in assists. I promise you did. Let me see. Maybe with y'all.
You better.
Sorry, STB.
Two years.
Two years. That's two years.
What I'm saying is, think about what I'm saying.
Draymond's led the Warriors in assists every year.
Rebound every year.
Steals.
Steals.
Not a guard.
Every year.
Deflections every year.
Who else is going to surpass him?
Let the T-Wolves in assist over Troy Hudson.
I'm just telling you.
Okay.
How many other categories is he in?
We're talking about one man holding five categories on the same team.
When nobody on the team can do the things that he does for the team.
That's the point.
Who else is going to pass these guys the ball?
Who else is going to rebound the ball?
It's not about passing the ball.
Okay, if we take him out and put somebody else in,
who's going to actually...
Somebody has to do it, though.
That's what I'm saying, Gil.
Somebody has to rebound.
Someone has to be capable of doing it.
If you're seven foot, you have to rebound.
Looney has to rebound the ball.
Okay, so if we take out Draymond and we say,
all right, Looney...
Looney's rebounds have to go up.
So Looney's going to rebound. Kaminga is going to have to rebound. No, no, so if we take out Draymond and we say, all right, Looney. Looney's rebounds have to go up. So, Looney's going to rebound.
Kaminga is going to have to rebound.
No, no, no.
You can't pick.
You got to pick one.
I want you to.
If we get rid of Draymond.
We get rid of Draymond.
You got to put somebody in his place.
Put somebody in there.
Kaminga.
Kaminga.
So, Kaminga's going to lead them in assists, rebounding, steals, block shots, deflections.
No.
Okay.
They're going to have to spread the pot out.
Exactly.
And that's what I'm giving you credit for.
You have to have more players to cover up just the one talent.
Yes, that's why he's special.
That's why I say if you take him off,
he's not going to be able to do those things with other teams
because it's not needed.
They need him to do all these things for the Warriors.
It wasn't needed when he got there.
Yeah, it was
because David Lee was doing it and
Bogut was doing it, but they weren't dribblers
or facilitators. They were screeners
and handoffers. He created his
own lane. That's what made him special.
That's what made him look good.
Boris Diaw was doing that. He is
Boris Diaw. You're just thinking
about one pass and Boris Diaw wasn't
stealing it. Boris Diaw shot threes. He brung the ball up. He was a point guard playing big did he block shots?
Did he steal did he rebound?
Cuz Tim Duncan did it this is what I'm not this is what you're not realizing what made the Warriors special because one man
covered five things to do which means I don't need my big man anymore.
He had to.
He don't have to.
The big man wasn't doing it, Gil.
That's what I'm saying.
The big man was doing it.
So when I go small, I don't have to worry about my, I don't have to worry about rebounding.
They changed the game.
Right?
Thank you.
When the big was there, who was doing it?
Who was doing the things that Draymond didn't need to do?
Everybody else.
Who?
Everybody. Name who everybody named who?
What which which which team on what team Draymond was on with the Warriors where there was somebody else
Blocking shots and doing things like he did both the bogeyed and he was blocking shots They played together. He was clean. They played together one year bogeyed and Draymond. Look. I know you don't like Draymond
I get it
McGee yeah McGee.
Yeah, McGee.
That's what I'm saying.
So when they went small, the reason that they were, they had that, what was that shit called?
Lethal what?
What was that?
The deaf squad.
The deaf squad. The reason the deaf squad was so powerful is because one man can cover up all of the flaws that a small ball would do.
Right.
One man.
If you take him out and put Bogut.
It's not a small ball no more.
If you put anybody, because he's small but big enough to rebound, block, deflect, steal.
Not big enough.
He's good enough.
He was good enough to play defense.
What I'm saying is you're trying to give him credit but don't want to give him credit.
No, I'm just saying, and when you take him off the team this particular team and you inject somebody else into this position
They have to cover up the game have to because they're not capable
physically
Capable he's not that head above shoulders and ability to say that no one else is capable of doing what he's doing
He leads in every category but scoring.
Just because he's playing in a position where you can get those.
If I take him off right now and say, all right, put him on the Lakers.
Right.
How many categories is he going to lead?
He's not going to lead in rebounding.
Who's going to lead in rebounding?
Anthony Davis.
No, he's not.
Oh, my God.
No, he's not.
Oh, my gosh. No, he's not oh my gosh
Who's gonna leave in this is who's gonna lead in this is who's gonna lead in this is him him LeBron
Jamie LeBron Looney leads the Warriors and rebound even chance. Oh leads and steals currently. Oh today. Okay for this this season. Come on, man
This season
Do what I do this. I do this. I already got no shooting.
I do this.
Do what?
I talk this shit.
Bro, you're talking about one season.
I'm talking about every championship they won. I'm talking about Draymond Green and the Warriors.
Take him off that Warriors team.
And you got a team that need to fill a void.
How many players got to fill the one void of him?
Three.
You just proved my point.
But why?
But why, Gil?
Because he does more things.
Bro.
How are you saying you're saying?
Are you not listening to what you're saying?
Are you not listening to what I'm saying?
You're saying one player has all these categories to do,
and it takes three niggas to cover this one man.
On their team currently.
On their current team.
Yes.
Or Caucasian. So if you took them out, Kaminga got to step up. Lo. On their team currently. On their current team. Yes. Yes.
So if you took them out,
Kaminga got to step up.
Looney got to step up.
Devin Chinzo got to step up
on those three categories.
Passing,
rebounding,
and defense.
Okay, so what happens when
Wait, so what happens
when those three players
are not in the same game?
They're always going to be
in the same game.
All three of them
are going to be in the same game.
What do you mean?
All three of them,
right there.
They're starters.
So where's Klay Thompson? Where's Curry? Where's Poole?
Those two guys. One guy's coming off the bench.
Poole's coming off the bench. You see what I'm saying? You see what I'm
doing, right? Poole's coming off the bench.
DiVincenzo starts. Looney starts.
Uh-huh. Well, there's one more. Kaminga is going
to take Draymond's place. Okay, so
when Curry's in the game at
the same time as Klay,
right? Curry, Klay, Poole, Wiggins.
When those four are in the game, how the fuck does those three cover up Draymond's?
What do you mean?
How?
There's only one more spot, sir.
It's the style of basketball.
One spot.
It takes three to do this.
Who you going to put next?
It don't matter who you put.
Looney?
Okay, put Looney.
Rebounding.
Defense.
Rebounding defense. Where's the steals? Assists't matter who you put. Looney. Okay, put Looney. Rebounding. Defense. Rebounding defense.
Where's the steals?
Assists.
Deflections.
Switching on the pick and rolls.
You got four other players on the floor, Gil.
Four other basketball players that know how to play basketball.
Hey, guys, we need you to up your production.
6'2", 6'2", 6-7. 6-9. All
guards. 6-5.
Draymond Green is not all-world Superman,
bro. You just made
him all-Superman when you said three players
had to do what the one person
did. They have to up their production.
All three. Yes. You have to
play better. Three. You have to
play better. Three. You have to
play better.
Put them on another team.
We ain't talking about these players
upping their production
because we got other players
that are better than them.
All right.
Okay, let's try this.
I'm sorry.
Let's try this.
We're going to take Superman off.
All right.
Now, you're saying
to mimic Superman,
you need
Spider-Man,
Batman, and Wonder Woman Woman you need those three no do
just what he did saying that at all you saying that I'm not saying that at all
I'm saying to this nigga's hot where's the Black Panther at it's all we can put
black you don't need a Marvel team where the black because you got Superman
didn't have the Marvel team before you say he's taking Superman off.
You didn't have all that shit.
You just had guys with Superman.
So you take Superman off, you still just got guys.
Y'all calling Draymond Superman?
He's giving his ability on the team Superman-like abilities.
And I'm saying if you take him off, you don't have Superman abilities anymore.
You have regular guys that need to play at an
abnormal rate. But can they fill that
void of not having that Draymond type player?
Yes. No. You can't.
Yes. They have.
When he wasn't playing.
When he's not playing, they play good.
If you take Draymond and go to Golden State, they done.
That system is done.
The system is done because you need
three people that all three are not going to be
on the same court together.
You're saying these three are going to cover the same one person when it can only be one.
That's what made him special.
I'm saying Steph Curry is good enough.
No, I think they would have been there and got rid of him if they could have found
somebody.
Thank you.
They would have been got rid of him if they can find someone who has the capability to
do everything he does.
You mean to sacrifice the other things you want to do as a player.
You sacrificing being able to say, oh, I'm not going to shoot this shit.
Where you at Steph?
Where you at?
Oh, come here.
Come here.
He ain't shooting because he ain't going to make that motherfucker.
That too.
That too.
He ain't going to sacrifice.
When I say Boris Diaw, I'm like, oh, this is a facilitator who's going to sacrifice giving up his shit for the other team.
But Boris Diao has to do the other things Draymond brings.
Boris Diao can't protect the rim.
My nigga.
Boris Diao can't stop LeBron James when he comes in there.
But Boris Diao didn't have to.
That's what I'm saying.
Because he can't.
He didn't have to.
Because he can't.
He didn't have to, bro.
Because he can't.
Okay, so look
Fat Boris Diaw that motherfucker was six nine four hundred pounds. He couldn't do it
Couldn't play you're just saying Boris Diaw the passive part of Boris Diaw. I'm saying how about the defensive part?
Oh, you have to make that part up. That's a part of the other team. It's called team defense
another play you have to add another player.
Yep.
And that's what I added.
I added that.
Okay.
What I'm saying is I can put four scorers around this one player,
and he can keep everything intact.
He can help you get.
Yes, I agree.
Now if I take him off, and I need to protect.
Now I need the defense apart.
I got to have all three of them.
No, you don't.
You bring in Looney.
He is your defense.
What about my passing?
You have three guards on the team.
That don't pass.
Now they got to pass.
It's not their forte, so great.
Now the system changes, but it don't mean that y'all lose.
It don't mean it's all about the system.
It's basketball, though.
The reason the system isn't played the way it is
is because of this person.
But then you just say that system dead.
Dead.
23-hour lockdown.
Huh?
You're going to be playing basketball
and pelican fake when I get through with you.
That's what the only reason the system is,
the only reason I can have Clay,
Curry, I mean Clay, Curry, and Poole in the game at the same time is because I have Draymond Green.
If Draymond Green is not in the court, those three are going to clash.
So that means that they ain't who they are without Draymond Green.
Draymond Green is the key to their legacy.
Was Draymond there and Klay and Steph there when Mark Jackson had that team?
Yes.
He's the one who gave him that role. He's the one who gave him. Was Draymond there and Clay and Steph there when Mark Jackson had that team? Yes.
He's the one who gave him that role.
He's the one who gave him.
He realized what he was doing to practice.
Oh, wait a minute.
Let me try you out.
And then Steve Kerr colonized him.
And then Steve... He colonized the words and that's that.
That's all I'm saying.
But that's why the death squad became so powerful is because you had a guy who had so many things he can do
They realized oh we can go small we can go big we can do whatever because Draymond covers all these spots
So you hit my point
Mark Jackson seen the perfect piece to the puzzle and what Draymond needed to play for the team and he put him in that position
They Draymond come here. Come here. We don't really see your value.
We don't really see your value other than this piece for this particular team we got.
We need you to play this role.
We need you to play this role.
Now, Draymond might have wanted to come in and do some other shit.
And they say, hey, Mark, no, no, no.
We need you to do this.
Wait, wait.
We need you to do this, Dray.
No, Draymond created.
Draymond was a second- round pick on the bench, bro.
In practice, he seen what he was doing.
Everything he was doing.
Locking down Klay.
Stopping Curry.
Rebounding.
Pushing the break.
Passing.
It was like, wait, hold on.
Wait.
You know what?
Switch.
And do the same shit.
Switch.
And do the shit.
Let me see the shit.
Now he's sitting there. Picking roll. We need you to do this. Switch and do the shit. Let me see the shit. Now he's sitting there picking rules.
We need you to do this.
We love that we can do that.
I don't need you to do it.
You're doing it, and I'm seeing it.
He was illegal.
I can't tell you to do all these positions.
Who was playing in front of him before that?
David Lee and Bogut.
When they seen he was doing that they put him
in front of the other two guys, right?
Because he was doing it.
Did they need that?
You don't know what you need until someone gives it to you.
Did they need Draymond
to do these things?
Were they winning before that?
They weren't winning championships
before that.
What are you trying to say? They weren't winning championships before that. What?
What are you trying to say?
They weren't winning championships before they decided to put Draymond in a position where it took them to championship caliber.
Draymond just got on the team.
I just, that's the point.
He just got on the team.
Won a championship his third season.
His third season.
That's what I'm saying.
Like, before that, it was, where do we put him?
He wasn't even no fucking factor.
Exactly.
He wasn't a fucking factor until they put him in a position where he became a factor.
He put himself in a position.
We can go on.
Fuck that.
Final point.
He losing.
Final point, Gil.
He losing.
He's a second round.
What's funny is he's saying the same thing, but switching it at the end.
How do you notice that?
He's not a factor.
He's creating something.
I'm watching you create something, right?
I'm watching you do something.
You're fucking my unit up by yourself.
You're taking a second.
I don't need this because I don't know it's
there. I don't know
it's there. You're doing it.
And I'm like, hey,
you know what? Hey, Draymond, put the black
jersey on. Put the black jersey
on. Let me see what you do with this
unit. We need this. How do you know
you're doing this? We need this young shit because these two
old white dudes out here. David Lee and Andre Bogut. And I'm know you're doing this young shit cuz these two old white dudes are this David
I'm just not getting it done. I just like this young
So you're basically saying they're looking at pool second round. There's that pool. I need you to score 20
No, that's not what they need. They're seeing the motherfucker come out here do the things that I said, you know
Let me play
Draymond you're doing what you're doing lose Kevinant, and you got a guy who can score like Jordan Poole.
How did you know he can score like Jordan Poole if he's a second-round pick?
Because he's Jordan Poole, and he was in college, and you evaluate him.
You were a second-round pick, Gilbert.
Gilbert, how did we know you played the way you played?
They didn't know I played the way I played.
We all knew you played the way you played, bro. You know I played the way I played We all knew you played the way you played
Bro you was in the national championship game
What is he talking about?
Why the fuck am I the 15th league on the team?
I'm 15 on the team
You fought your way didn't you?
You fought your way up there
Are you
You're missing the I part
Did the Golden State Warriors
Need one four flat?
No.
I created it.
What did they have before that?
I don't know.
What the fuck they had before?
They needed something, Gil.
They needed something.
And they called it a one four fucking flat.
No, no, no.
I called it the one four fucking flat.
Whatever you called it, they needed it.
They didn't need it. You don't need it until you give it. They didn't have nothing before that, Gil. I called it the one for fucking. Whatever you called it, they needed it. They didn't need you.
You don't need to give it before that.
Gil, they don't matter.
Something you're trying to give them credit for someone else.
I want to create it.
But they're trying to give them Draymond Green's creation.
Look, if they need a spark and you give me a spark, that's what they needed.
The spark.
You gave them the spark.
They needed it.
You needed it. If they needed it it someone else would have been doing it
No, that's why they needed it cuz no one was doing it. That's why it's a need
We're K first the chicken or the egg. No, this ain't no no no hell. No. That's what they say
No you look dumb as a mother when they when they read through this that's gonna look dumb if I'm number 15 on the bench
And I'm sitting here doing this watching and you put me in and I say hey fuck that one for flat
And I do this and score the coach is gonna be like we needed that spark
So he put you here
Am I tripping?
He didn't put me in the game in my photo one for flat You hear him? Am I tripping? Or the coach is like, man, we needed that. We needed that spot.
He didn't put me in the game for the 1-4 flat.
I'm bringing the 1-4 flat because that's what I'm bringing to the game.
You don't know his creed.
You don't know.
I agree with you. I'm just saying, when you bring your shit, it was needed.
Your shit was needed, Gil.
No matter how you created it, it's the fact that we sit here.
This shit is stagnant.
Nobody's scoring.
Nobody's doing shit.
We need something here.
Uh-huh.
Okay.
Gilbert just came in and did a one-four flat.
Goddamn, that shit worked.
We needed that.
Let's do it again.
Let's do it again.
Hey, J-Mon Green.
We need that. I don't think they told him they need it. I think he- No, I-Mon Green. We need that.
I don't think they told him they need it.
I think he...
No, I'm not saying that.
They told him.
They seen film or whatever.
We need that.
He run without unit belt or anything.
We need that.
You know what?
You know what?
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
You know, sometimes, sometimes, sometimes...
I don't know if it's going to work.
No, no, no, no.
Sometimes when...
Sometimes, sometimes you just got to tell your girlfriend. Sometimes. I don't know if it's going to work. No, no, no. Sometimes when.
Sometimes.
Sometimes you just got to tell your girlfriend.
You know what I mean?
Just so you can finish watching the game.
You know what, honey?
You're right.
You're right.
You're goddamn right.
You're right.
You're goddamn right.
I know I said I wanted hamburgers, and I know it was your idea.
I get it. It's vegan burgers tonight.
It's vegan burgers tonight.
I said I wanted hamburgers. He want to take credit for the hamburgers. I know it was your idea. I get it. It's vegan burgers tonight. I said I wanted hamburgers.
He wanted to take credit for the hamburgers.
I get it.
You going to give me credit? I'm going to take it.
We all
understand what we're saying, right?
Okay. Alright.
Motherfucker almost made me think I was crazy.
We got a lot more to cover in this show.
We're going to cover that shit.
We're going to save it. We're going to get to MostlyFans. I got that show but we We're gonna get to mostly fair got a roundup
Sorry this is the shit I gotta do go tell me what he is
Tell him what he is. Let's go tell him what?
His argument was what? It's trash. And I like Draymond. And I like Draymond.
And I like Draymond, man.
I ain't got nothing against Draymond, man.
I'm just saying.
Draymond's a great player, man.
Hall of Famer.
So we talked about your outfit yesterday.
I mean, we got to do this shit.
His outfit was trash, too.
Tim's, baby.
We're not here to go back to New York, man.
We go back San Antonio, New York, and the Crown.
I stay fitted and coordinated.
Like the great Michael Jackson once said, it's my taste.
Like, it's your taste.
Throw it in.
Throw it in.
When we trust the fans to keep us honest, Gil, you remember what you were wearing yesterday?
One of our fans of the show also remembered they had something they wanted to say about
it.
There it is.
Oh.
Oh. Oh. Oh.
Oh.
Oh, no.
Said you got the seat cover.
Oh, I got the City Girl seat cover.
Oh, my god.
But that's your taste.
That is, that's for show City Girl.
Gil, will you rock and sweatsuit like that again on this show?
Like that? People like that again on this show?
Like that?
With some pinging loafers next time.
Yes, of course.
It's free.
That's the most important shit.
It's free.
That's the most important.
You're getting it for free.
If it's free, it's for me.
You should've showed the Kobe's though, bro.
You gotta show them.
I thought I did.
You ain't show them, show them.
They ain't get to see the purple Kobe's you got.
Those space shoes was disgusting.
No, the first one.
Disgusting. No, he's coat. That was the first one. Disgusting.
No, the first one.
Disgusting.
No, he's right.
Those are the space shoes.
No, we rocked the space shoes in UCLA.
The ones I had on?
Yesterday.
It was the moon boots.
Those were the moon boots.
Those were the moon boots.
No, the twos were the moon boots.
The arty ones?
That was the one I had on.
I thought you had the ones on.
No, those are the twos.
Those are the twos. Those are the twos.
Because the ones had the Audi design where you couldn't see the laces.
Those are the twos.
You're talking about the Lambo joints.
Those are the ones I had on.
Those are what you had on?
Yeah.
Wow, you brought it back.
Yeah.
I don't know.
We have to verify it by tomorrow.
But we appreciate you.
That's our show for today, Rashad.
We appreciate you being here.
Bubba Dough, we appreciate you, round two.
Yes, sir.
We're going to get you back real soon. Hey, man. Hey, listen. Listen. Listen show for today Rashad. We appreciate you being here Bubba. Do we appreciate you round two? Yes, sir
This motherfucker We ain't giving a hell of a lot of that. We appreciate you. Hey, McKenna's gonna be there, like, let me in, God damn it.
Come on, man.
I got some more Trey Montagre shit to say.
Don't blackball me already.
We only a month in, man.
Let me stay a little longer.
We appreciate you, Underdog Fantasy and Kills Arena.
Whoo!
We'll be back Thursday.
Eat a mustelk.
Fire.
Eat a mustelk.
Eat a mustelk.
Eat a mustelk.