Gil's Arena - Trae Young COOKING The Knicks Gets Gil's Arena Fired Up

Episode Date: December 12, 2024

Trae Young COOKING The New York Knicks Gets Gil's Arena Fired Up as Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Crew react to Trae Young adding another savage victory over the Knicks to his resume and break down how his Atlanta Hawks pulled off the upset to advance to the Semi-Finals of the NBA Cup. They also react to the Houston Rockets taking down the Golden State Warriors in an old school rock fight where Steph Curry and the Warriors fell due to a controversial call that caused Steve Kerr to crash out. The Crew breaks down if Kerr's comments over the call were warranted and debate if Alpren Sengun & the Rockets are showing enough to be considered contenders in the NBA Playoff race. Finally, they react to the report that Kawhi Leonard is still 2 weeks away from taking the court this season and discuss the Clippers ceiling if their superstar ends up playing more games than Joel Embiid. Please leave us a like and subscribe!!! Gil's Arena Crew - Josiah Johnson, Nick Young, Kenyon Martin, Lexie Brown & Rashad McCants Gil's Arena Merch is Available NOW at https://gilsarenamerch.com/ Get Your Ugly Sweaters HERE!! - https://gilsarenamerch.com/collections/holiday-sweaters Use code GIL10 for 10% off your SeatGeek order https://seatgeek.onelink.me/RrnK/GIL10 Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get up to $1000 in Bonus Cash and A FREE Pick: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena Head To https://aura.watch/gilsarena for Up To 50% Off Aura Watches SUBSCRIBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAvjYgmwadC682OoC4Cc6TQ Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos! https://discord.gg/underdog Intro 0:00:00 Show Start 0:02:04 NBA Looking To Build Euroleague Competitor 0:06:49 Steve Kerr Crashes Out On Bad Call 0:28:07 Rockets Are Taking The Leap This Season 0:46:44 Sengun An All Star? 0:53:10 Trae Young Cooks The Knicks 1:02:55 Are The Hawks Contenders In The East? 1:09:12 Grading The Knicks Season 1:20:03 Who Would Benefit Most From Winning The Cup? 1:22:57 LeBron to Warriors Trade Speculation 1:29:09 Kawhi Leonard Getting Closer to A Return 1:34:39 Gil's Arena Christmas Sweater Contest 1:55:43 Why Do Superstar Athletes Keep Getting Robbed 2:00:32 Jimmy Butler's Agent GOES OFF On Shams 2:09:26 MostlyFans 2:30:23 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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So here's what's cracking in Swaggies Arena today. Ice train and the Hawksks pulled up to MSG and rolled the dice on the Knicks. Will the Hawks crap out or keep rolling in the NBA Cup? The Rockets snapped their 15-game losing streak on the Warriors to advance to the NBA Cup Final Four. Did the

Dubs get a taste of their own medicine? I'm sure a lot of Rockets fans, we're talking about 2018, Game 7, a lot of calls that then-MVP James Harden didn't get. You know, hey, what goes around comes around. You already know. Interesting. And Kawhi Leonard practiced with the team for the first time this season on Tuesday.

What's the Clippers' ceiling if the Claw can stay healthy? Reports are he may be back in a couple weeks out there with that squad. They're a very surprising team this season. Should be even better with Kawhi back in the lineup. I did not instruct Paolo to do that, niggas. Is that okay? Yeah. Just making sure it is your arena.

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$100 bonus to your account. Can't watch the show live with us on YouTube. Monday through Thursdays, 1130 a.m. Pacific, 2.30 p.m. Eastern. We got audio versions available on Apple, Spotify, wherever you get your podcasts. So we're going to start international today. So athletes such as Noah Lyles have taken issue with the idea of NBA teams calling themselves world champions. You already know we had a huge discussion on it. And as it turns out, he and others share those sentiments, and they may be getting their wish in the near future. So according to Joe Varden of The Athletic, the NBA and FIBA are in serious talks about

starting a pro league in Europe that could rival the EuroLeague and other international leagues. While the details of the league are not known at this time, it appears that several of the top teams in the current EuroLeague are considering letting their license expire with that league after the 2025-26 season, which means top teams such as Real Madrid, FC Barcelona, among others, could potentially be open to exploring a partnership with the NBA as soon as 2026, so long as the bread is right. They need their chips with dips, as you already know. So I want to go around the couch and ask you, a lot of you guys have international experience,

would you want to see an NBA-affiliated EuroLeague? Oh, yeah. That's what they come play in the NBA? experience, would you want to see an NBA-affiliated EuroLeague? Oh, yeah. That's what they come play in the NBA? No, so they would play. So EuroLeague right now, I believe, is 13 teams that are a staple of the EuroLeague Cup. They're in every season. And 13 more teams across the European leagues get added to it. So we're saying like the G League elite over there.

That'd be dope. That'd be dope. No, for sure. Yeah, that'd be fun. It would change everything. Yeah. Wait, so would EuroLeague not be a thing anymore?

Yeah, I believe the NBA is trying to walk into the EuroLeague's trap and take over said trap just based on the report from the Athletic. So it would just be an NBA EuroLeague.

So FIBA... Competition with them. EuroLeague isn't sanctioned by FIBA. So FIBA and the NBA are in cahoots right now. It's not sanctioned by FIBA? So it might be FIBA... Competition with them. Euro League isn't sanctioned by FIBA, so FIBA and the NBA are in cahoots right now. It's not sanctioned by FIBA? It might be FIBA rules, but FIBA don't get a grant off of it, from what I understand.

So the NBA and FIBA are... Competing with Euro League. Yeah, saying we would like to come just take over your corners. Dang. Yeah, they come and take over their block. And you're pushing our package now. Yeah. That's smart.

That's really smart, considering how many Europeans... They said, well, because about the development, right? Yeah. Of the A&U and high school kids. I had already thought this, right? For my six-year-old. Like, I tell you, we like 14, 15, we was gonna move to Spain. Oh, wow. Yeah, bro. I'm not sitting and playing A&U basketball here when he can go become a pro at 15.

Yeah. So, yeah, it makes sense to me. It seems like the route that they try to take with the overtime elite and all that, it's not really panning out how they thought. And these European kids are coming over way better, more advanced, more pro-ready. So they're like, we just going to go over there. Yeah, because you got to start them before they're 18. You send them overtime elite when they're 17, 18, that's too late. Or you just got to teach

them how to play real basketball. No, but they got a lot of bad, the point I'm making, they got a lot of bad habits by 17, 18. Yeah. Right, you starting them at, in these academies at 13, 14, 15, you're eliminating those bad habits and you're working on the skill set that these guys are much better at than the marriage. Well marriage well the difference thing the difference over the trees is that there is no emphasis on individuality at all so all of those players over there only no team Lonnie Walker goes over he says man this is real basketball over here there's no ego there's no individual we all play as one this Lonnie that played with you know what I'm saying? Ain't no one guy taking all the shots. Yeah, he feels some type

of way about being over there. He's like, man, I'll bring my son over here before I let the game taint him. It'd be good to learn best of both worlds. I think you should have some, you got to have the culture

inside you when you go over there, too. Yeah. It all plays a part. So you can only speak on your own experiences. Yeah. So I look at KJ, like me, the way I was groomed to play the game was fundamentally sound. Me playing in college.

We learned different back then. Yeah. Four years, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. We used to drill shit every single day with Bob Huggins. Yeah. Wasn't no days off, right, of working on this, working on that, working on this, or you working on those things.

So that's why I was able to, I'm saying KJ plays the right way in today's society, which at times is a detriment to him, right? But he plays the right way all the time. Just imagine if KJ played over in Europe, he would average 20 and 15 because he plays the right way. And they know how to get him the ball in the right positions. You get lost in the game in the NBA when you play the right way. And you don't know where you belong because you're like, usually our back door right here, but they telling me the space. And I never touch the ball because this back door is wide open.

He got a dunk last game. Same thing. Paul George drove. He cut right behind and got it. Boom. Playing is wide open. He got a dunk last game. Same thing. Paul George drove. He cut right behind and got it. Boom. Playing the right way. He's playing the right way. It's the fundamentals.

And when he was younger in high school and me stopping and breaking it, like, after every game, right, going over the good things he did, the bad things he did, right? Most of the time doing a lot of bad stuff, but just always addressing it, right? Keeping him where you need him to be that and I think that's what they do in Europe right they from like I said from the young age from 12 13 14 they working on stopping you slowing you down and doing it the right way instead of just

but is that more us not teaching them? We learned that. I learned that. They took it from our system. If you think about European basketball, like you know about Euro, they play college basketball. Yeah. It's all college. In the lane, cut, pass, move it out the ball,

flex cuts, downstream. And they're in the gym. That's impressive. That's impressive. Little kids are in the gym so many times. In the academy. I was in the gym like all day, damn near. That's impressive. Little kids are in the gym so many times. In the academy. I was in the gym, like, all day. Damn near.

I mean, there was nothing else to do. We had to share gyms with little kids. But, like, so many people in the gym. Would this affect college? Well, I think, no. You don't think? No, because it's still... Because now it's, like, NBA affiliated.

No, because NIL still is a thing. I'm sure they're using it as a developmental pipeline. Yeah, it's definitely a pipeline. To get more international players. I think there was, like, 125. So it's going to be more for... Do're using it as a developmental pipeline. Yeah, it's definitely a pipeline. International players. I think there was like 125. Do you think it's going to be more international players? Are they going to encourage younger American players to go over there? Both.

I think it's going to be both. Did the game get softer because of that? I feel like it's going to be like... Them dudes play hard over there. I think it's going to be like a level above the G League. When they come here, do they play hard? I think it like a level above the G League. Do they play hard? I think it's a level above the G League

because you're going against guys you're not familiar with. I think it's a level above the G League, but it's not. These will be pro-European clubs,

though, right? Oh, yeah, for sure. Like the historic franchises across Europe. Pat Bev is on one of the teams right now. I mean, there's players over there that are like

16, 17, 18 years old, so you think that certain kids are over here. Instead of going to school, they're going to go play in that? Because if they can get paid. And they don't have to go to school. People usually don't go overseas because once you get overseas, it's hard to come back. But now if it's an NBA.

I could see them sending like vets and stuff over there too. Yeah. That could be fire. So Kenya, question for you. Kj started playing locally out here uh last season i think sierra canyon then went to img academy what did you notice as a difference you talk about academy academy style basketball that's academy in florida right brandon if i'm not mistaken that's specifically built i just saw a video of it on ig but just all the different resources facilities i think it started out as a voluntary tennis camp and then expanded out to a bunch of other sports.

What did you notice, the difference between the instruction at Sierra Canyon from an athletic basketball standpoint? Y'all getting too deep into it. Let's go. To IMG Academy. We're about to break CNN. Could you see more IMG Academy-style replication across the country and guys not having to go to Europe to go do that? Yeah, so what KJ did was so he went so he graduated high school And instead of so the rule states to go to get drafted you had to be one year removed

So we explored options of him going Australian We had an opportunity to do that, but the league tried to step in and control that the NBL or whatever Yeah, so so we we knew owner of one of the teams on there and he was gonna put him on his team but then the league stepped in and control. Was that the NBL or whatever? Yeah. So we knew the owner of one of the teams on there and he was going to put him on his team, but then the league stepped in and tried to say they was going to place KJ on a certain team and I wasn't going to have nobody playing politics with his future. So the IMG situation for KJ was because he didn't plan on going to college, right? He was going to be a pro after the one year removed from high school. So he,

so other guys that were planning on going to college, they took classes. And while they were in classes, KJ was training. So he lived by himself, he had an apartment, so it was getting him ready to be a pro. But the training part was, me and him talked about you need to work on your shooting ball handling your body right that was the and he had a schedule right so you stick to the schedule and he did right there was no i don't get no phone calls you're missing workouts that you was late this that and the third and he stuck to it right and it showed he played games but it was just this the not having to go to class part, right? When you're in class, he's working out. And you could tell it was a difference

when the guys that he was playing with and him, right? The way how strong he got. Because it was emphasis on it. Because he was going to go be a pro the next year. So if you know the route that the kid is going to go, then why take this path over, this college path or this other path? Let's go be pros, right? Let's train as pros.

Do they still get NIL for that too? No. Oh, okay. So let's train as pros, man. Why put kids in situations that they're going to BS it? Yeah. So per Varden's article, a part of the entry from Adam Silver's perspective is the youth development programs that these European teams have developed.

By investing in those teams, you get access to that developmental program, which seems a little weird to me since we created the blueprint for this. They took it over there, obviously expanded it out. That's lazy work. You think about what they're doing. They're asking the European guys to babysit our guys, train our guys, and bring them back over here when we can set it up.

This is what the G League is supposed to be. You're telling me you want to go partner with their formulas better than ours? You got the people here. If you could fix the G League, how would you fix it? Oh, it could be much better. Yeah, it could be way better. I mean, I've seen clips. You bring an influx of former players and a lot of different fitness enthusiasts

and experts that know about the body, the physio-vascular part of the body. Bring those people into the G League. Let the experience flood the G League. Our experience, the scouting of the players, we all get like, remember the big three when y'all was scouting for the players, y'all wanted to pick players, y'all set up there in the combine and was like, yeah man, we like him. But man, how is that, that was like the G League without G League players. It was like, damn, man, imagine if the G League had Ken Martin and AI and Chauncey and Dr. J, all them looking

down like, yeah, man, we like these kids. What? How is that not a part of our culture? So right now we basically have the high school to college pipeline for basketball, but you see a world where it's more like baseball, where a lot of guys are getting drafted out of high school. I just watched a video on Juan Soto. It's a farm system, right? That's what the G League was supposed to be. It was supposed to be. It was.

Now it's kind of like the, oh, I didn't make it, so I'm going to go play. It's a graveyard. It's a graveyard. It's a graveyard. It is. To turn it into a graveyard, instead of a farm system and growing people- It's punishment. It's-

It's like, man, I got to go to the fucking- It's like punishment. It's what it was. It's what it's always been. It's what it's always been. You go to the G League It's what it was. It's what it's always been. You go to the G League, man, yeah, shame on you. Unless you get, like I said, I can only speak on experiences. KJ went down there, and it was like he's going down there for 30 days. Him and Kevin Porter went down there. It was like a prison sentence.

30 days, and they was going back, right? This is the plan. This is the go down there play learn the system learn our plays Yep, come back and come play. Yeah, but some people only get that 20 well that 30 can turn into 45 160. We're going to give you another 15 days. You look around, you're living down here for real. So that's why baseball is, and for some people, baseball is a better product. Football is a better product than the NBA, right? Major League Baseball and the NFL is a better product than the NBA.

Because of that, right? You got to go to school for three years in football. You have to. There's no way around it. And the WNBA for that. That's all. Yeah. And they ain't got great products.

I'm going to put them in it as well because of the development and the skill part of it that they have to go through each year. They are, skill-wise, compared to the NBA, they're head and shoulders above betting us, right? Because they have you you have to be a certain age to get in On the baseball might be younger baseball might drag you getting baseball might drive you out of high school But you not going right on. No, you're not playing in

So it's so You're not playing big boy. At 19. Everybody don't need single A, double A. You got a triple A, then you can go. So it's like. If you special, you special. Yeah, if you special, you special. That's what I'm saying. But everybody's not special. There are exceptions to this rule. A LeBron James is an exception to this rule. Aaron Judge is an exception to certain rules.

Like it's just certain people's exception to these rules? Yes. But these people are, they have spent time learning the fundamentals of their craft or their sport. Yep. And been coached hard at this. So when they get to the profession that they're going into, they're ready. Yep. Yep. It's not like, damn, he has potential.

Like, nah, this motherfucker can play. Yeah. Right? Yeah. Like, so when you get to them, like, this motherfucker, he really good, man. Like, like, huh. We're wondering. What is the potential?

What is the potential? That's what we've been doing, ain't it? Right. Ain't that what we've been doing? Sitting around, hmm. I wonder what kind of petition this is. Things that make you say, hmm. But what makes European guys make us want to train like them?

It's only a certain amount. It's only a certain amount, yeah. That's what I'm saying. Why are they like the standard? Because they're so much better than you. And you think about how we use them in our system? They are finely tuned oil machines for our system. So two of the three best guys that we're speaking of, right?

They're not athletic. At all. They're not running by you. At all. Joker and Luke. Absolutely. There's no doubt. Based on those clues.

The other guy don't count because his name says it all. He's a fucking freak of nature. We don't even know what he is. He don't count. That's an alien name anyway. Absolutely. But the other two guys, right? Put the letters together.

They're not athletic. Yeah. They're not running past you. But I'm saying... They busting ass, man. Four names compared to what? We're talking about the skill set though. We're even referencing what he's saying in terms of skill set.

Skill set? What Luka has done at this age. What Luka 25, maybe 26. What he has done at... What? How many first teams? Five first teams? Come on, man. But there's like LeBron

of Europe. That's what I'm trying to say. Yes. Without jumping over you or running by you. So, I gotta... What about the last two? Imagine if he had half of LeBron's athleticism. Half of it. I'm saying, what about the last two? Imagine if he could. Imagine if he had half of LeBron's athleticism. It would be over.

Half of it. I'm saying what about the last two? Right. He don't even need all of it. Just give him half of it. I think that's what he's saying as far as the potential. He's like, yeah, they drooling over potential over the European players because of these two and what they brought because we overlooked their potential. Yeah.

We overlooked Joker and Luka. And now they're like, we can't ever do that again. And now they're going after people that look like Young's, right? Yep. Young, thin. Skilled. Skilled, but, like, fucking arms and hands, this motherfucker.

He going to be something. He going to be. So their athleticism and size is kind of catching up. But I'm saying besides the I'm talking about like the two number one the one and two

pick compared to our Americans how do they stand out that's why I'm saying what is this they don't why did a Euro

become the standard and they shouldn't have went one and two because you got Edie and Kade which is the two guys who go one and two because they look

like Wimby they look like Wimby and they like hey man he might be Wimby Yeah, which is the two guys who go one into Look like when being a like a man might be windy Recess a who came over and said he was super athletic playing in in France, came over here, he wasn't shit. Regular dude. Light-skinned dude with a curl. Regular dude. That's the only thing I'm saying. Get off the ball.

That's the only thing I'm saying. The athletic part, yes. The athleticism, yes. We still stand out in that area. Yeah. So I have an update for everybody on the show. We grew up jumping fences and shit and running from dogs. Hey, that part that they have no idea.

But they not even. When you see that dog, you don't know what to do. Don't move. Jump on top of the car. Athletic and shit vertical on top of that bitch. Don't move.

Fool my God. This boy's Spider-Man. Where the dog at? Where the dog at? The dog gone. He been gone. He cleared the door. So, got an update for the show.

Gil not here on the couch. Don't know his whereabouts, but we do know he is in the chat He commented about five minutes ago said championship Gil in the chat. They just want y'all know he's watching so be on your best behavior Thank you. Yeah, whatever I said at the top of show you know, just kidding, you know, right But one more question on this subject for y'all. Back in the day, I know y'all remember, McDonald's used to do that world championship. I believe the Bulls and Spurs went out there,

sent their NBA championship team to go play. How interested would you be to see a world championship between the NBA champs and EuroLeague champs? Man, we already had this conversation. We already had this conversation. Twice already. Oh, I thought we wanted to see that. Nobody want to see that massacre? Yeah.

Yeah, we do want to see it. Yes, we do. So those of us at the boxers We do want to see it. Y'all still Europe. You know why we want to see it? Because we never seen it before. I ain't seen it.

We never seen it before. I want to see it. And they strongly believe they got a chance to win. That's crazy. They strongly believe it. Like, you ain't got the Olympic team. Y'all ain't the Olympic team.

How about lottery team? Y'all just the Boston Celtics. You just Boston. We got a got the Olympic team. Y'all ain't the Olympic team. I bought a lottery ticket. Y'all just a Boston Celtics. You just Boston. We got a chance against some of y'all over there. I'm sure if Gil was here, he would say not a chance. When I buy a lottery ticket, I think I got a chance to win too. Until you win.

And they never won. They do come. They play in preseason. Luck ain't on your side. I won last week. They do. They play in preseason. But listen, you can bring the champs over there.

They win. They come over here and win in preseason. They beat Dallas. Real Madrid beat Dallas? Bring the champs. Bring whoever wins the EuroLeague champs over there. Whatever the best league is over there, that team. Bring them. Bring them here. And play a series.

Let me ask you a question. Can they beat any NBA team? Yeah. Yeah. On one game? One game. Anybody. On one game? One game. Anybody can beat. One game, yes.

Not in the series, no. Not in the series. So if we was doing one game, there's a chance that they could... Against the NBA champs? Against the NBA champs. Against the Washington Wizards right now, they could possibly get a shot.

What about a EuroLeague All-Star team coming over and playing? All-Stars? No, just the regular... An All-Star team versus a regular team. You're an all-star. I like that. Or just like the Jazz.

I like that. Blazers. I like that a lot. Let's start. Because there's going to be a lot of NBA players on that all-star team, Euro. Yeah, but I say they make best players. Not necessarily. No, yes, necessarily.

All the Euro all-stars are former NBA players or very very good your role No, bring the brain you got to be born there That's exactly how they feel to like what I get to play on the EuroLeague in them and So we asked the chat do you like the idea of an NBA Euroleague? Y'all saw dudes that never played in the league in the big three in front of y'all what y'all thought? Yeah same thing I thought all my life. Lush me. Right you look at me on one leg you still like man give me the ball.

Lush me. Come on man let's me the ball, man. Come on, man. Let's talk. Home drills. Like I said, we asked the chat, do you like the idea of an NBA EuroLeague? 63% said yes. Well, let's get to some current NBA basketball. Great night

at NBA Cup action as the last two teams punch their tickets to the semifinals in Sin City. Let's start by diving into the Western Conference quarterfinal between the Warriors and Rockets in Houston with that red court. It looked like the depths of hell, as Steve Kerr said. It was a kind of back-and-forth, 90-style, low-scoring game. So, Jonathan Kaminga led the Warriors with 20 points on 8-for-20 shooting in 36 minutes.

Steph Curry had 19 points on 8-for-17 shooting, hitting three of his 9 3-point attempts and missing his only free-throw attempt of the game. Alperin Shangoon put his stamp on the game, leading all scores with 26 points on 10 for 18 shooting. Also had 11 rebounds and 5 assists in 32 minutes of work.

And Jalen Green had 12 points, none more important than his 2 free-throws to give the Rockets a 91-90 lead that they would hold on to for the victory. FVV. Championship experience. I appreciate

him doing his thing. He said, get that Ura game, young man. And he took it to heart. Those free throws that I mentioned from Jalen Green were very controversial as Green dove on the floor for a loose ball and was trying to call a timeout when a foul was called on Jonathan Kaminga. Instead, ref said he reached over Green's body. Yeah, you know what time it is. Give Green those two free throws. Uh, the Rockets win. Oh, but Steph, 3.5 seconds left.

That's why Kurt said he didn't challenge. Steph inbounded to Pods. Pods got a shot blocked. A lot of Warriors fans on Twitter last night. Wow. A little too turnt up. Uh, you know, asking for Pods scalp. Just a little too much.

Uh, a little salty. So, uh, Rockets win. Snapped a 15-game losing streak against the Warriors. Uh, Rockets got their first dub on the dub since February 20th, 2020. So needless to say, yeah, it's been a minute. I was just about to say 2005. Needless to say, Steve Kerr was absolutely furious with the call. He did not hold back on the refs when he was asked about that foul in his post-game press conference. I've never seen a loose ball foul on a jump ball situation

80 feet from the basket with the game on the line. I've never seen that. I think I saw it in college one time 30 years ago. Never seen it in the NBA. Okay. That is, I mean, unconscionable. I don't even understand what just happened. You know, loose ball, diving on the floor, 80 feet from the basket,

and you're going to give a guy two free throws to decide the game when people are scrambling for the ball. Just give them a timeout. Give them a timeout and let the players decide the game. That are scrambling for the ball. Just give them a timeout. Give them a timeout and let the players decide the game. That's how you officiate, especially because the game was a complete wrestling match. They didn't call anything. Steph Curry got hit on the elbow plain as day on a jump shot, just clubbed right on there, no call. So you've established you're just not going to call anything throughout the game. It's a physical

game. We're going to call it a loose ball foul on a jump ball situation with guys diving on the floor with the game on the line? This is a billion dollar industry. You've got people's jobs on the line. I am

stunned. I give the Rockets credit. My job. My job. Our guys battled back. Played their asses off. And deserved to win that game or at least have a chance for one stop at the end to finish the game. Oh my god, he's still going.

He's still going. And that was taken from us by a call that I don't think an elementary school referee would have made. Look at his nose. Because that guy would have had feel. And said, you know what? I'm not going to decide a game on a loose ball 80 feet from the basket. You know what? You're right.

Dave Kerr had a very shiny nose. As a documented Warriors hater, I just would like to salute the officiating for that Gussie call. That was crazy. Gussie call. The rules are the rules. Do we know who made the call? What rule?

Do we know who made the call? Who made the call? Scott? No. Bill? Family guy. Family guy made the... I don't even know why you called me.

I don't know why you called me. I was going to ask, but I just feel like it may open up a little bit. It may seem like it was Cleveland. It was Cleveland. You talking, you say he look like Cleveland? No. Oh, okay.

No, no. You got the mustache. No, fucking Bill Kennedy with that bullshit, man. You don't call that shit, dog. So we'll get to the foul call itself in a second, but was it worth the eventual fine for Kerr to get that off of his chest? Yes, absolutely. He got it. Oh, they sent it to that off of this chair? Absolutely. He got it

Yeah, they sent it to him. You got the email. He got the bread dust. He got buddy. He already got the email They're by the other red. You're about a hundred thousand dollar word About hundred thousand. That's too much That's a pocket that's that's that's a lot out of the pocket a lot. It's something like he wasn't 25 25 integrity, okay, it's something like 25. He wasn't cussing, though. He had to. 25. Integrity of the game. Okay, 25. Give me 25. I got to give you 25.

Yeah, public criticism of an official, like Steve said. He went crazy. Is that usually 100? Yeah, it's something. You know what I mean? 100? Really? Probably for a couple.

It ain't usually 100. It's something like 20, 25. But for him, it's- This ain't the first time Steve Kerr's taken issue. That one was like three minutes. No, he's habitual like Draymond. Yeah, he's a hotline stepper. He didn't told them about themselves a few times,

which you should, man. Just for the record. The thing is, no, I think it would have been worse. You got to see the thing about it. You got to call him by name. Yeah. In that situation, you got to call him by name. Listen, Bill.

No, like Bill Kennedy. William. Bill Kennedy, there's situation, you gotta call him by name. Listen, Bill. Bill Kendall. There's no way you should call that. Single him out. I do take issue with one thing that Kurt said. Elementary refs would call that. I don't know if he's familiar with the officiating. They would call that. It's very nasty. They'll call it jump ball. They won't call foul. They'll call it jump ball.

They'll call it jump ball. They'll call it a foul on the first little scramble, not the second one. They'll call it a foul on the first one scramble, not the second one. In that situation, yeah, they probably call a foul on the first one. They call on the first little scramble, not the second one. Yeah, they could have called a foul on Verity for jumping on Gary Payton. Anytime you're diving on a loose ball, you don't call a foul, period. You look at the clip from the beginning. You look at the clip from the beginning. They both are scrambling.

We don't call a foul unless it's obvious it was a foul. If you look at the clip from the beginning, that when GP had the ball. Let's take a look at that play again. If we could, please, Paolo, one time. If that's okay with you swag. Yes. Okay. Thank you I'll just make sure it is your arena. So let's take another look at the play That's a fire you call But the thing is look where he's standing that he could have caught up to see this all bills at the bottom bills at the bottom Right. You could have called a battle afraid for diving on

Going going keep going right going Both got hands on the ball right now, okay go right frame by frame how you get to a file from here All right, nobody got it Jalen got it right now Probably cuz coming his arm went over now, but Jalen has it Jalen has it right now. I mean you don't got it keep going Omega has to turn around over Jalen greens net he going there's no foul call. There's nothing happening All right, the loose ball foul has to be Kaminga trying to grab the ball right there. Yeah, Kaminga reaching over. He's trying to go around.

But I'm still not calling that. You don't call that shit. He's not in position for it to be a fair call, though. How can he even see? Bill's down on the bottom. Yeah, how do you see that? He's looking between Looney and Shank. Between?

That one should be the one to call it. Because look between Looney and the other dude over there, there's a gap. There's a gap. To Lexi's point though Why the hell he didn't call you that way he didn't call. Yeah, he does have the clear Why he didn't call he look at your play out of the side lay official near frame for frame Why you call anything watch him look this man is on the floor. Yeah, Steve Kerr on the court watch There's a whole lot of shit in this moment that you could call If you do you got three referees out there there's a whole lot of shit in this moment that you could call. You got three referees out there.

There's a whole lot of shit that you can call in this moment. Five seconds to go. Frame it forward. I thought they called. They know I'm going to time out. Look, look, look, look. The top ref. Right now.

The three-point line. Like, swing that bitch. Top ref. Top. The top ref. Swing, swing, motherfucker. Top ref is really saying right now, I can call it, but it ain't nothing to call. Ain't nothing to call!

Ain't nothing to call. Frame it again. Frame it some more. I would call a check on Steve Kerr for being on the court, but that's the person. I'm going to rule. Right next to him. Frame. Look, he's still. He got nothing.

I was giving him a timeout, but finally he called a timeout. He ain't calling shit! Look, Brooks called a timeout. Brooks called a timeout. And Jabari. Jabari is, too. Look. Timeout, timeout calling timeout. Brooke's calling timeout. And Jabari. Jabari is too. Look. Timeout, timeout, timeout.

And he's like, I don't see nothing. He's not even in the frame, you foul. So the chat... Frame four, frame four. Come on, man. Look, look, look. He's telling... He's telling Steve to move out the way.

Move, Steve. You're on the floor. I still see nothing. I ain't called shit yet. I still don't see nothing. Ain't nothing to call. Nothing to call. Keep're on the floor. I still see nothing. I ain't called shit yet. I still don't see nothing. Ain't nothing to call. Nothing to call. Keep going. Forward. The whole team calling him out.

Nothing. Look. Nothing. Everybody calling timeout, timeout, timeout. Oh, because he don't got a ball to work. Well, hey, look. Kaminga only has one hand on the ball. Now, Looney involved.

Ain't nobody still calling him. No call. Now, he calling a foul right now. He in position to call. Look, he moving around. He still trying to call. Do we know who they called the foul on? Kaminga.

They called it on Kaminga. Man, come on, man. Like, at this point, I would have called it on Looney. Yeah. Yes, that's what I'm thinking. I'm like, who'd they give it to? Hey, hold on. Hold on.

Let's just hold it right now. Look at it. Hey, hold on. Don't look at Dylan Brooks. Dylan Brooks, like, thank you for the timeout. He's like, no, yeah, you're right. Just a foul. He thought he gave him the timeout. Look at his face. Dylan Brooks, like, thank you for the timeout. He's like, no, yeah, you're right. Just a foul. He thought he gave him the timeout.

Look at his face. Hey, good. Hey, rewind it a little bit. That's, like, shocking stuff. Dylan Brooks thought he gave him the timeout. Keep going. I really appreciate the couch disrespecting the integrity of the game. Keep going.

Look, the fish was made. Look, right there, right there. So he think he gave him the timeout. Play it. Time, time, time, time. Time, time, time, time. He's like, yeah. Look, look. Look, watch this. So he think he give him the time out play it No way No way Steve normally I'm proud of Steve Curdo. Hey, no, I mean Because normally... Oh, no, he would have been on... Listen, yo.

Yes, he normally... He would be on the floor right now. They would have to hold him back normally. Well, he knew because they still had a chance to win even with the free throws. But realistically, from the view he had, he knows also in his soul that was a foul. Huh?

He knows. On Kaminga, though. On Kaminga. That wasn't no foul. Thank you, Shot. The questionable thing Kaminga. I'm Looney. There wasn't no foul. Thank you, Shaq. The questionable thing is he's really looking at it. He got his hand on one hand.

He don't have two hands. So why the ref didn't call in after sitting there? So what's the best view? All I'm saying is... Why did he wait until Looney jumped on to him and called in? All I'm saying is it was a foul. Who, Bill Kent? No, by the way.

No. On green. No, you're right. Bill Kent is an inexperienced official. Look at his legs. Look. Look at this angle. Foul.

That's a foul on Fred for diving no more. Look, look, look. All that. All that. Go back. Go back frame to frame. Look. He smacked him in the face.

That's the game on the line. You don't call this shit. Slowly. Slowly. No place for that in the game. Dog, the game on the line. You don't call it. Slowly.

He hasn't called it yet. Slowly. Slowly. Slowly. Right hasn't called it yet. Slowly. Slowly. Right here. That's all foul right there. Look, remember. Hey, Lex, when you grab somebody from behind, it's a foul. But he was already there, though.

But it's a foul because you're behind him. He's on the side of him. Regardless. Jalen set up. Look, look, look. Right here. Look, look, look. Jalen's on the side of him He gone he gone he gone out of fight here right here got the ball They're fouling them Not a fuck Any dudes out here playing for half a million dollars, man, and you call that shit?

That's bullshit, dawg. I think they went to see Houston. The game on the line, man. You don't call that shit. You know who I picked? That's why the other two refs didn't call. You know who I picked? I picked Houston.

You picked Houston? What, to win the cup? Yeah. No, no, to beat them. Like that? To beat the Warriors? Yeah. So you must have known about the 15 straight before this game, before you picked them.

No, I did. I did. I just knew this this a bad matchup for them No, I knew it wasn't just beat them the other day with no Steph and no dreamer. Guess what they just did So how is that a bad match? They just lost No dream on and it's a good matchup for them. No, they got cheated. They hit him. They got cheated. They gave him free throws for no fucking reason. He made them, absolutely. What we do know is those free throws didn't decide the game

because Steph Curry had an opportunity and the Warriors had an opportunity to get a shot. That was the play they ran to Pops. Should've came to that. That's another thing. They traded Klay for Pops and you throw it to them for game. You want to lose.

And the Steph took that three up one. A little questionable. That led to this whole... So you can't do... No, no, no. I'm not... Hey, you lose the game the way you lose the game. But I'm not going to...

The way you play the game. So we're not even going to sit here and complain about a game. But we're not going to do that, Joe. Because you played the game the wrong way. But Joe, we're not going to let you do that. And now you ended up on the wrong side of the game. And now you complaining about losing. We don't play that shit.

You can't fuck the game over and expect to get fucked. Come on, man. No. Hey, you saying a lot of Diddy stuff. You don't call that, though. I agree, I'm not going to lie. That's a bad call. I won't even allow my Warriors hate to sway my vision like that.

You better watch out. Watching it in real time is like, you just don't decide the game like that at any moment. Hard fought game. I expected one of them other dudes to call that, not Bill. Bill, you've been around too long. But like Steve Kerr pointed out, game was super physical. They let a lot of stuff go. If one of them other dudes would have called it, I would have expected that from them.

I have a question. Bill Kennedy, you've been around this game entirely too long though Like you and you're like 20 something you don't call it Like responsible for like low scoring versus high scoring games They can they can they can affect them because I've never really thought about that until these last few cup games and how low scoring they've been. They've been like super physical. Yeah, they let it go. Because I always thought like, okay, playoff games, people are just more locked in defensively,

but then I just feel like, no, I feel like they let a lot more things go. Harder to score at that point. You are locked in more. Niggas an NBA champion. They shot nine. They won three free throws. They won the playoffs? Game on the line.

Can't you have to guard Rudy game? Yeah, but in the playoffs, though, the reason is the way it is. Oh, wait, I lied. Right? Oh, no, I didn't lie. Because you're running the same plays every game, and you just going to keep running them,

and we know what you're running. You got to see him the next day. That's crazy. You beat me, I got to play you the next other game. You're going to play the same shit? For as physical as he was saying the game was. Yeah, that's what I was thinking about. I'm like, he's saying it was a physical game.

He only shot 20 free throws. He said they didn't call nothing. They were just playing the play. He said it was physical, but they didn't call nothing all night. So therefore, you decided to call that, right? Yes. You ain't called shit all night. We've been kicking each other's ass all night,

and you decided to call that in that moment when the game on the line? So, it seems a little fishy to me. It definitely affects the scoring, though. Controversial call or not. And you weren't even taking that many threes compared to. So, controversial call or not. The Warriors led by six points with a minute 16 remaining in the game.

That's when I turned to you. A minute 16? A minute 16 left in the game. That's before a game is. Step attempt to three up by one. How can I give any grace on that call when y'all was up six with a minute to go? Y'all let the game go. I can't give you no grace for that.

Premature, you turned it off. Yeah, I turned it off. It was up six. I turned the TV off. I still had hope for a Warriors defeat, so I kept watching for the final moment. That's over. That's over. I'm relenting.

I'm like, oh, six. I turned it off and said, oh, six feet straight. To the baby team. Right. To the baby team. In. To the baby team. In a cup. In a cup game. Refreshing to see.

And you're a veteran team, too? And do that. Refreshing to see the Rockets make that NBA Cup. The two baby teams. I was there for three years, and them, like, Steph, game winner. It was it. I'm not going to lie, man. They needed a break.

I felt some type of way because I put in a pick'em Okay, did you win boy? Let me tell you something. Yes. I got all reds I made a bet I made the pick'em at halftime. If you get all red you should get your money back I should get my money back I'm gonna tell y'all what the pick'ems was and I want y'all to let me know if the game has changed. Okay, Dylan Brooks. I picked what the pick-ems was, and I want y'all to let me know if the game has changed. Dylan Brooks, I picked 5.5 rebounds higher. When I picked it, he had three rebounds. It was

at halftime. He had three. What'd he finish with, five? Four. Jalen Green, 3.5 assists. I did higher. He had two. When I picked, he ended up with three. Draymond Green.

He guaranteed to get me at least six boards. 4.5, I picked the higher. 4.5 rebounds. He had one and a half. I get so mad. He ended up with three. With three? Draymond Green.

Out of all people. I get so mad. Out of all people. I get so mad at that. Out of all people. Shangoon, he was supposed to get 14. He only got 11. I get it. It was cool.

He had eight and a half. He only had three in the second half. You can't be an elite rebounder and only get three boards in the second. Last one was Steph Curry. Four point five threes. I took the higher. Because you know what? He had three and a half.

All reds. All reds. Underdog, y'all got something up your sleeve. Very optimistic picks. Well, think about two rebounds in two quarters. One assist in two quarters. I was going to get one. Give me.

And you were supposed to get average. You averaged seven bullets. That's why that was. I'm trying to figure out why I can't win. You don't win. I'm rooting for the Warriors, that's why. Two optimistic. 15-game win streak. You need a hater in your heart.

Two optimistic. That's true. Pray for their downfall. As soon as I wear the Lakers jersey, they're trash. That was your fatal flaw That was we were really disappointed on that bronze Purpose jinxed us then took it off after bronze air ball like crazy I'm gonna have some money power now. I would appreciate if you didn't okay

We took a vote, but let's let's get on to the Rockets so as I mentioned earlier Been a long time since the Rockets have beaten the Warriors they lost 15 straight games Naturally some Rockets fans were emotional on Twitter spaces after the win. Let's been a long time since the Rockets have beaten the Warriors. They've lost 15 straight games. Naturally, some Rockets fans were emotional on Twitter spaces after the win. Let's take a listen. This is crazy. Oh my God. No way. Bro, like, I'm so dead ass, bro.

Like, we finally beat these n****s, bro. Like, bro, first of all, I want to say f*** you to Steve Kerr, you bve curry you bitch ass you low-key racist whole ass you named your son nicholas so you can name your son nick her you will steph curry you will be as draymond you donkey ass, bitch, ref, crying to the ref's ass. No, f*** you, bro.

Also, f*** that, Lindy Waters, too. That's her girl name, bro. I never saw a n***a named Lindy, bro. The emojis are funny. That is the best part of the tweet. The Cosmic co-signing is hilarious. So that was funny, but in all seriousness, the Rockets are 17-8, tied for second best record in the West.

That's insane. They have now secured a spot in the NBA Cup semifinals of Vegas against the OKC Thunder. Houston was a 500 team that missed the playoffs last season, found their momentum late last season, and it's continued early into this season. How impressed are you by the leap the Rockets have taken this season?

That's going to be a game right there. Rockets-Thunder? Yeah. A great game. Great game. That's going to be a fave. Are you going to watch it? Oh, yeah. It's going to fade. The baby teams. Yeah.

Sangoon, Harkinstein matchup. Shay. Top two teams in the West? Damn. You even think about Jalen and Shay. Then it's VanVleet and whoever. What are you? Iso Joe?

What's the dude? Jalen Williams. The Joe number 11. Isaiah Joe. Oh, yeah. Stretch shooter. Who else? Joe? What's the dude? The Joe number 11. Isaiah Joe. Oh, yeah. Who else is this? Brooks and Williams. Yeah, it's gonna be... It's gonna be a good game.

For actual basketball fans, I posted a tweet that got a lot of negative reaction just from a standpoint. You got the Hawks, Bucks, Thunder, Rockets in that Final Four when you could have had the the Knicks the Warriors and teams like that from a big market standpoint But fans, I love all basketball. I haven't seen the Rockets and Thunder in there looking forward to an exciting NBA Cup I think this is better than that. You think that's okay? I think so. Well, it is your arena Swaggy. I mean, it's the same reason last year Everyone was excited that the Pacers was in there. They have that same energy. Who was ready to see Halliburton on that stage? He was balling too at that time. He was killing at that time. Yeah, they was balling. Facts.

So, I mean, it's nice to see these teams. I mean, I've never, this is the first time I saw Houston play on, like, TV. National, national. So, watching the Rockets on national TV. Remember they was getting, like, 140 and 100. They was hooping right before that. And then they just. So, watching this Rockets team last season.

You hit the rookie wall. Rockets last season, I think, went on like an 11-game win streak. At the end, right? With threatening the Warriors for that 10th spot. But this year, what do you see from this Rockets squad, King? It's 17-8, second in the West right now. That's crazy. Eme Adoka turned this franchise around.

A lot of young talent, but they all playing for each other. Same as Cleveland, right? You bring your guys back. You don't change things up. I'm saying Cleveland changed their head coach, but your players are the same. And they're still locked in. You let them grow together.

Still locked in and growing together. They start playing well at the right time, which is unfortunate at the end of last year. They start to learn one another at the end of last season. It just translated over, man. And I've been a big fan of M.A. Doka as a player, and now he's in the position now. He's a...

He came up under Greg Popovich in the holding your star players accountable and telling guys the truth and being honest. So I can see him doing that in his moments with them guys, with them young guys. And they bind into what he's preaching, man. So you weren't here yesterday, but basically there was a clip of him in Shangoon,

and he said Shangoon was bitching about calls too much. He told him to get the European out of his game. Just go out there, play hard, you know. So there you go. And stop all that whiny shit. Right. So I'm pretty... That's what he's saying to us, and the Lord knows what he's saying to him

watching film and in private, right? So... Mm-hmm. You can tell. That's what, like, if he's saying that so people can hear it. Yeah. He's probably like, see, I mean it. So that's my thing.

No, but they playing well, man. They competing, them guys, young, energetic. They did a lot of losing to be at this point and to develop the talent that they have. So they're trending up. So let's see how the rest of the season goes. But winning is contagious. Winning is fun.

So they are there now. Yeah. So they want to keep that going. Like I said, they did a lot of losing, man. Yeah, for sure. And Nick, as an NBA champion with NBA championship experience, how fun is winning? How fun is winning an NBA championship

and being an instrumental part of that team's success to help them hoist the trophy? Man, only a few could experience that. I carried that trophy around. Man, it's like a feeling that's hard to explain because you don't have to be there. Please try to explain it. Please.

For the audience, there's certain people watching. I'm sure a lot of people in the chat would love to hear your experience. Because I want to know, help God's mission.

I want to know personally, what did you do? What did you do? What did you do to prepare to be a champion? We care. On the 25th of January. On the 25th of January.

On the 25th of January. What'd you do on May 25th, Nick? Insurmountable of January. On the 25th of January. On the 25th of January. On the 25th of January. On the 25th of January. On the 25th of January. On the 25th of January. On the 25th of January. On the 25th of January. On the 25th of January.

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On the 25th of January. On the 25th of January. On the 25th of January. On the 25th of January. On the 25th of January. On the 25th of January. On the 25th of January. On the 25th of January. On the 25th of January. On the 25th of January. The flight movie with this damn... I'm drunk right now. I'm drunk right now. Damn, Dezeal, you gonna fuck it up everybody. You gonna fuck the fuck up.

He didn't even lie. He said, you know what, I won the argument, so I'm gonna be real now. I'm gonna be real now. I ain't do shit. I'm gonna be real. I ain't do shit. I'm drunk. I'm drunk right now.

I'm drunk right now. I don't know about no hog time. I don't know about no hog time. I don't know about no hog time. I'm drunk. I don't know nothing about no hog time. I don't know nothing about no hog time. I'm drunk. I don't know nothing about none of that. Oh.

Thank you for that, Nick, because I feel now with your experience. I can't die. I hate y'all. I can't do this no more. You can help me be a champion in my own life now. Oh, shit. Okay. Let's find a bottle, man.

All right. But in all seriousness, Alper and Shang-Goon averaging 19 points, 11 rebounds, 5 assists this season. Scoring is a little bit down from last season, but his rebounds and assists are up. Rockets second in the West right now. A much better conference in comparison to the East, top to bottom.

Do you think Shang-Goon will be an all-star this season? Kenya, I know you've been a big fan of Shang-Goon, been singing his praises for a while now. Should be. You think he should be? Yeah.star this season. Kanye, I know you've been a big fan of Shane Goomba, singing his praises for a while now. Should be. You think he should be. Yeah. He should be. Third best, you still got AD, Sabonis, Jokic.

It's going to be tough. So it's going to be tough. That's very tough. But the winning might help. The winning might get him a nod over Sabonis. The winning might get him a nod over Sabonis. If they still in second... He got to.

When the votes go in... He got to keep the numbers up, though. He will. Yeah, he got to keep the numbers. He'll be a 20 in 11. He 19 in 11 right now. I think his assistant,

he actually passed to Farwell, too. Would that be a first at, like, a team that's, like, second in any conference? All-Star don't make it? No.

They got to put one in. Don't they normally always put somebody in or the whole team? First, second, and third place teams? So they got to... These have one all-star. Right, somebody got to go in. With Jalen averaging?

Let me pull it up. 18. He's exciting, though. 19. Jalen Green? Yeah. You put him in a dunk? I thought he was at 24 or something.

He's leading the scoring. He's leading the scoring at 19? he's had a lot of backers He'll get the nod So Jalen averaging 19 and Yoke is still and Wendy, but think about old front of Jalen green don't but still this team Yeah But think of the stuff he could do in front of Jalen Green, though. But still, this team... In the West? Yeah, in the West. Think of the stuff he could do.

Jalen Green... He's like Kobe. What is it? Luka? He's going to be Luka. Exciting. But Jalen Green, inconsistent. Luka, Shea... One night.

So his last seven games, starting from November 26th, nine points, 41 points, nine points, 28 points, 14 points, 31 points, and then 12 points left. Jalen's an all-star. You think Jalen? Jalen Green's an all-star. You think it's going to be...

Jalen Green's an all-star. It's going to be him or Ja, right? They both can't make it, right? We got Kevin Durant. SGA. So that'll take him over. Ant-Man. Ant-Man.

Luca. KD, D-Book, Kyrie, Luca. He's going to make it off of like... LeBron. KD ain't going to make it. LeBron. Luca. KD. D-Book. Kyrie. Luca. He's going to make it off of like KD ain't going to make it. But the win is not a problem. LeBron. But it's not a problem.

How's he going to get in? He's not going to get in. He's going to make it because KD is going to make it. He got to go to the East. He get in on the East. How's the format this year? Because, you know, is it the draft shit again? Yeah, draft team plus a rookie in rising stars element.

Oh, yeah. They're changing up and stuff, right? But somebody's going to get hurt. Somebody ain't going to play. Somebody's going to get hurt, put them in. They just want to hear their name was an all-star. They're like, man, I can't play. So it'll still be the 24,

and I think the rising stars will get that eight. If they're second, right, some of them other teams is. Like last year. They fucking around, man. But you think Jalen Green will get one of those seven reserve spots? I think it'll be hard for him to get over Jaren Fox. Not a starter, not a starter, not at all.

Yeah, that's for Jaren Fox. Over Fox, absolutely. They second. Nah, you can't put him in five. De'Aaron didn't get it when they were second. When De'Aaron and the Kings were second when Mike Brown forgot there, they made it all up and. He didn't get nothing. He was averaging like 25.

What about the Rose? He's averaging 26.6 and 5 this season. You got to put him in. You got to put him in. And you've been subbing him. But you might not because this is Max's contract. Well, then, Simone's not even... If he don't make it, that takes away from that money.

2012. Yeah, for sure. So we asked the chat, will Shane Goon be an all-star in 2025? 67% said yes. Okay, chat. We'll see. Chat a lot less hostile today.

I don't know what it is. He probably got to increase his numbers a little bit. But is it his third year? Swag, I feel like you brought the championship-level chat with you. Man. You got a championship-level chat today. I think they will put Sabonis in over Green. Why do they do that, though?

Over Shane Goon? Yeah, I mean, whatever. Shane Goon in over Green. Well, now his number, whatever. And Shang-Goon in over Green. Well, now his number's changed. Like, they put in Sabonis over Fox. They can't now. Is it safer to do that? Yeah. For them?

2021. Yeah. Oh, no, this is his fourth. All right, well, let's move to the... This is his fourth season. So you're not gonna have Sabonis, Wimby... Mm, we forgot about that about Wimby getting in. That looks nasty.

Jokic. That looks nasty in all seconds. That's nasty working in all seconds. You got AD. AD still. Still got AD's a big still. Kevin Durant is a full. Kevin Durant is a full.

So it'll still be the 24 All-Stars. Y'all got to think about the family too. So it'll still be 12 from the-Stars. Y'all got to think about the fan vote too. That's what I'm saying. So it'll still be 12 from the West, 12 from the East, and then the eight from the Rising Stars. KD, and Dupu. And then they'll make teams of eight, basically. At the five position, them votes going to Wimby and Jokic. Ma, AD.

And I'm saying that just five votes. AD, AD. For the fan vote. That's what I'm saying. For the fan vote, Wimby going. Yep. That's really going to determine for real. Him or Jokic, right?

Yep. Jokic and Wimby, 100%. One of them going for sure. It's going to be a... Then you got to throw Bron in the forward spot, KD in the forward spot for votes. Yep. Then Anthony Davis in there for... Oh, that's forwards.

He's not forwards. It's going to be... Ant-Man. Some hurt feelings. Ant-Man. Guard, Ant, Shay. forwards. He's not forwards. It's going to be some hurt feelings. I mean, guards, shaves, Steph. Luka, Kyrie. I mean, shit. I'm not going to even see Kyrie with the votes. Yeah, not no more.

You can make an argument for Norm Powell from the Clippers. He's averaging 26. I'm just saying. Exactly, but with the season, Norm Powell's having a successful football. How much Kyrie averaging? 24.

Look at Luke, he ain't even playing like that. Yeah, he ain't even playing. Nah, it's tough. Yeah, as a guard. But it's gonna be tough for us. So Kyrie's averaging 24, five and five. Yeah, it's gonna be tough for KD. You need somebody who can throw them lobs.

You need someone who can be an all-star. Yeah. Ain't none of them old people you named could do it. He's gotta come on strong, I feel like, in these next couple weeks. Think about the all. Ain't none of them old people you named. He's got to come on strong I feel like in these next couple weeks. Think about the All-Star game. And I think a good showing in the NBA Cup Final Four with that national spotlight

on them could help elevate. Like if he goes out there and just kills these next two games. If both of them go out and kill, they both could elevate. Yeah, so they're playing for something much bigger. Obviously that 500 racks though. They both could be All-Star. I think Jalen, if it stands the way it is, I think Jalen Green has a better chance. Yeah.

Me too. Them being second, him leading the team in scoring. And being All-Star. All right, well, let's keep it moving to the east. This year is crazy. Swaggy, can I move to the east? Go ahead, my brother. Oh, thank you. So this is Swaggy's Arena presented by Underdog.

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tone it down just a little bit, please. He's tweeting about AI and Elon Musk. Scotty, tone it down just a little bit, please, all right? He said, what did he tweet? I only saw one. I think Elon was on the Bulls. Yeah. And then he had, like, a whole Bears thing, too.

It was weird. It's been weird over here. Scottie, if you're okay, blink twice. All right, but let's keep it moving. Let's move over to the NBA Cup Eastern Conference quarterfinal between the Hawks and the Knicks last night. Anytime Trey Young comes to the Garden, you can expect to see a show. And that's exactly what we got last night at MSG.

The Knicks were in control early, leading by double digits in the first quarter and by seven at half. But the Hawks turned things around in the second half, sparked by an 11-0 run in the third quarter that included eight straight points from Ice Trey. It's cold in here. Bing bong, as they say. Oh, my God.

Man. Y'all don't say bing bong in New York? Shout out to Side Talk NYC. Shout game, bro. Man. His game. They stay big. Y'all don't stay big-bong in New York. That's over. Shout out to Side Talk NYC. That's over. Shout out Side Talk NYC. What are you guys doing?

Shout out Side Talk NYC. Two and three. What are you saying? Don't you wish you came to the Knicks, KD? KD, don't you wish you came to the Knicks? But the Hawks turned things around, like I said, second quarter. On Knicks side, Jalen Brunson struggled, going 5-15 from the field, finished the game with 14 points and 8 assists.

Oh my Lord. He tried to smack a glass. I appreciate it. Yeah, yeah. Too easy. Yeah, that's too easy. He's dunking everything. Big Bodega, Carlyle, Anthony Towns had 19 points, 9 boards, 5 assists.

But the Hawks were really the story with Jalen Johnson putting up 21 points, 15 rebounds, 7 assists in 41 minutes. DeAndre Hunter had 24 points off the bench. Dunk that. Trey Young, 22 points, 11 assists in the win to send them to Las Vegas for the NBA Cup semifinal to celebrate the occasion.

That was the best one. Trey casually pretended to roll dice at center quarter Madison Square Garden. Proceeded to hit his point. I think his point was 8. He hit that 8. He definitely took the knee. He definitely took the knee. He definitely took the knee. He took one knee.

I said it in the group. I said it in the group. Look, with the ball. With the ball on the one hand. Put the hand on the ball with the knee down. Kept his dribble. Kept his dribble. Kept his dribble.

Blue on eight. That's a real young. He kept his dribble. Representing for the young. That's a real young. He kept his dribble. Representing for the young. That's a real young. Y'all might have been on the same plantation at one point in life. Boy, in New York. I wish I would come to my car after this.

Oh, yeah. You're going to be all-star too. Don't know if he's going to be all-star, but he's out here listening. So, Trey was. Yes, Leg. Yes, Leg. Yes. Definitely. Definitely. Definitely. This will be the year he got it. They didn't beat the Cavs twice. So try with yes

Definitely definitely this be the year he got it. They didn't beat the Cavs twice Boston. Yeah, New York in New York To the cup they still like four or five we're gonna talk about that in a second But Trey was asked about his relationship with the New York crowd after the game. Here's what he said We saw you do some skipping good form how would you describe your relationship with the New York fans I mean I got a lot of love and a lot of hate I guess from from them but I got love from them too so it's respect Trey also said the the dice-rolling celebration at the end of the game him and his younger brother playing that out couple days in advance he already knew he was coming to the Garden and getting the dub.

You planned that? You know what I mean? That was a... A plan? Extremely disrespectful. After the game, Knicks captain Jalen Brunson was asked about Trey playing CeeLo at midcourt

and simply said, we should win the game if we don't want him to do that. Spoken like a true gentleman. So just like he did in the 2021 playoff, Trey Young eliminates the Knicks from the NBA Cup. So, Trey, Canyon, as a Cowboys fan, where does Trey shooting dice rank on disrespect on the midfield logo?

Shooting dice on that midfield logo, if you remember back in the day, T.O.? T.O. with the... Twice. Twice. Picked it up and ran to the goddamn... T.E.G., the dude, T. dude, Tee tried to take his head off. Yeah. The second time. Second, yeah. Yeah.

Because nobody do nothing the first time. How disrespectful, Trey rolling dice on the New York Knickerbocker logo. I love it every minute of it. I don't like that shit. Shai, that's our resident Knicks fan. I don't like that shit. You don't like that shit one bit?

I'm gonna have to drop a dime on them. Do something about it. Trey dropped 11 on my block. Rocked around on my block, trying to roll a dime on them. Man. Do something about it. Trey dropped 11 on my block. Drop around on my block trying to roll dice on my block. 4-5-6. Is this the illest ninja? Man, I don't like that. I don't know how to feel, though.

Like, the fact that you planned it, I don't know. Is that more disrespectful? Because a lot of my stuff, I just do it on the spur. He say, man, Brunson, Brunson. Brunson. You can't guard me. Brunson. That's more disrespectful. This is what we can't guard me. That's we go

This is what we gonna do when listen at the end of the game. I'm gonna shake him up shake him up shake him Did not roll them in a circle of homies, but still we had to watch we had to break them with the head I had to hit him with the seven seven eleven one needle seven eleven See I didn't see the one me seven even back here with the seven with the back door. Who plans a celebration on Sebastian? Days in advance. When you know you been having, putting foot to ass. For years. For years in advance.

For years. Michael Jordan, I'm coming to the garden. Y'all know what it is. It comes at the point in time of the man life. Yeah, he said he figured out how they was starting. I'm not little no more. I'm not little no more. I'm not little no more.

I'm not little no more. Growing in the garden. Boy, I ain't little no more. I'm not little no more. I'm not little no more. I'm not little no more. Growing in the garden. What? I'm little no more. You can even bully me forever. Nah, hey, man. Think about that. You know he'd be mad at us.

And the fact that they had the ball to dribble, he had the opportunity to carry it out. Ain't nobody rushing him. Ain't nobody on some of you. You ain't about to do that. Let's wait like three minutes left in the game. They sit there and watch him roll dice. Yeah, that's crazy. Check that quick. I'm done with it. I got to do something. It was supposed to be my team. What am I supposed to do that. You played like three minutes left in the game. They sat there and watched him roll dice. Yeah, that's crazy. Tried that quick.

I'm done with it, I gotta do something. It was. It's supposed to be my team, what I'm supposed to do? Yeah, I gotta do it, I had to watch it. I don't wanna hear the coach get on me. You let him roll the dice? I gotta do something. And he hit his point.

He hit a seven twice. He hit a seven, then he hit his point. Y'all let him roll four times. Man. Disrespecting me in front of my seed. Diabolic, regular. Hey, Jalen said, we don't want him to do it. We should've of my seed. Diabolical. Regular. Diabolical.

We don't want him to do it. We should have won. Yikes. That is true. But nobody's seeing the celebration. So. Simple. Damn.

Point blank period. We talk about the league, viewership issues, Trae Young versus the Knicks. Trae Young versus the Knicks. I mean the Hawks too. Give love to his team. No, Trae Young versus the Knicks. Ice Trae. Birds coated here. The Hawks is nice. Must be Trey Young in the atmosphere.

Yeah, for sure. Do you like Trey constantly trolling Knicks fans like that? Is it good for the league? I love it. It's a beautiful thing to say. Reggie Miller. What? It's the Reggie effect.

We need it. We need somebody doing something. Man, it's entertaining. As Steve, our resident Knicks fan, in true New York hater fashion. Everybody can't say nothing to nobody. You can't even joke around with these punks. These little punks. Fucking punks.

Punks. Steve is our producer. Tell me I got to apologize. That's disrespectful, too. I'm trying to work with motherfuckers. They're like, yeah, man, he mad because you said. Oh, little punk ass. Steve, a very amicable, came to work in the New they like, yeah, man, he mad because you said, uh... Oh, little punk ass. Steve, I'm very amiable.

Came to work in a New York Yankees hat today. A New York Yankees World Series hat. It can't be from 2024. Oh, damn. It does? I can't mind my vision. I don't know. I don't know how that... If I recall... I won.

I won't wear that one. But I recall... I won. I won. I won. I won't wear that one. But wore the New York Knicks hat. But would like to point out that Trae Young has an 11 and 15 career win-loss record versus the Knicks. Steve, we don't care about none of that. We are here for narratives and to push agendas. Does that include the play?

He wins when they matter. He wins when it matters. So we're going to spin that narrative. How impressive. Trae Young never played with an All-star on his team I'm gonna Madison Square Garden 22 points on 22 shots. I mean hey The last thing we saw is that boy rolling dice on the month on garden floor Never had another all-star on his team.

Still able to come and have a three and five record in the garden floor. We got nothing to come back from that. Yeah, he did. Yeah. Trey Young team, man. Trey Young elevating his squad. Uplift the other guys. Jalen Johnson, nice.

That's a New York. That's a New York. He said, nah. I shot 22 times. He played good, though. He shot 22 shot 22 times. He played good, though. He shot 22 times, man. Jalen Johnson, though. Whenever it's a game that matters, though,

Trae Young will come into Madison Square Garden and make that his proverbial trap. Man, that's crazy. Choke up their Timbs. Go home on the wire. Tying up Timbs is diabolical. You can't tie the Timbs up. You can't choke up your Tims.

So do they still want to trade Trey now? I know. So let's talk about it. So, Canyon, like you pointed out, we've seen the Hawks beat the Knicks twice, Cavs twice, Boston and Milwaukee. They're 6-1 against those four teams in total. Also lost to the Wizards twice early in the season. We're dealing with injuries.

So we can't really, you know, but, you know, always try to show both sides of the fence. But six and one against the best that the Eastern Conference has to offer. Time to start considering the Hawks as an Eastern Conference contender. Not a contender, but a threat. A threat, yeah, okay.

They're young right now. You did lose to the Wizards. Injuries or not. Yeah, that is. You did lose to them. That is. Twice. It's the early Wizards. Twice. That's when they had inspirations. Then they come to reality after, like, the eighth loss in a row, you know. When you first start, you think about it.

Everybody, everybody. They got chance. Now they back to the Wizards, you know. Back to reality. Yeah. I mean, you really look at the East, you can't say that they don't really have a clear chance because think about them every year in the year they did make it to the playoffs. Same team, right?

They kind of got the same team. They're similar. They're the same team. The only thing different is like Trey's realizing that he got to take more of the ownership, getting them over the hump, depending on the other players. And then you look at Cleveland, Orlando, and you got Bucs, Sixers, and Boston. These are all toss-ups of who can come in and win in those series. You think Boston will be a toss-up?

I think that if you get them teams playing on all cylinders, every game going to be a good game. Between those teams, Orlando, Cleveland, Atlanta, New York, Boston, the top seven. It's a toss-up. Wasn't a lot expected from the Hawks after trading to Jontae Murray, but Dyson Daniels came in there looking like an all-defensive level player. Stretches of just crazy steals, shrieks. Jalen Johnson, we've talked about before.

Jalen. Emerging. But there were talks before, oh, should they trade Trey? Are they rebuilding? Man. How much time? What is it, his seventh year? You got to keep saying.

Yeah, this is Trey's seventh season. So at seven, you reach your peak. If they don't bring him somebody, he got to go. But he ain't never been an All-Star? Never played with another All-Star in his career. Never. Never. Made the playoffs three times, made the Eastern Conference Finals.

He never played with one. Never played with another All-Star in his career. Made the playoffs three times, made the Eastern Conference Finals. He never played with one. Never played with another All-Star. He had DeJounte Murray, who was previously an All-Star with San Antonio, but was never an All-Star during their time together in Atlanta. I think Trey just wanted time to try to build something. And I think the Trey talks will give him anxiety, thinking I ain't had enough time to do what I need to do here to prove I can do it. I think this is a year he try to knock on the door

and be like, let's get out of the first round. Yeah. If you give me a little bit more, I might get you a little bit further. But he's already done. I can't do too much with Capella. Like, what I'm going to do with Capella? He still need a little.

Boggy Boggy and, uh, who's number 12? Boggy, Boggy, I think. He said Boggy Bogy, bogey. Bogey, bogey. DeAndre Hunter. DeAndre Hunter. Like, these guys in the ground. Onyeka, Kong Wu.

They all solid. They all solid guys. Big man went to USC, right? I mean, Chino Hills, more importantly. Yeah. Wow. They got eight tops. High school national champion.

Play with the ball, brother. USC native. They remind me a lot of OKC and all the the other teams is trying to build on the ground up Yeah, they do know okay see team But I think I like trade because I don't think they they can't trade them now because he fits perfect with the other guys Get them open lives. They athletic They get the playoffs they can play you say they man They know they can beat them so they, they can play. Man. They know they can beat them, right? They know they can beat them.

They know they can play with them. So, yeah, if they get any one of them in the playoffs in their first round, bro, look out. Look out. Defense. And they late. That's the only thing. They need to play better defense in the crunch time because they give up a lot of bullshit. That's the only thing.

Because they're young. They're young. That's what OKC is learning. They are learning how to play defense in crunch time. Don't give up bullshit. Once Atlanta figure that out anybody currently 18th ranked defense based on defensive rating in the league if they can Short that up a little bit for sure. Yeah, cuz I got They continue and they got a nice squad

Okay, we're rolling with Atlanta. I became a believer. Thank you a little bit. What you thinking, Lexi? I don't know. They don't need another person? Like what? Like a guard? I mean, everyone, but why would you bring up that he's never played with an all-star before? I feel like that's what everybody thinks he's missing. But I feel like Jalen Johnson is not an all-star this year, but on that trajectory.

He's got that. We say, like, they're like, okay, see, but Trey, he's not as young as that. Do you need that? I feel like you're away from really potentially... Doing something. A man average 12 assists, so you don't need nobody else. You don't need another playmaker.

You don't need nobody else that's gonna take the ball out of his hand. Murray did that. Murray took the ball out of his hand. He's averaging 12 assists, so he's making up for that scoring. Yeah. Somebody's making up for it. His scoring's down. Everybody else's scoring is up.

Yeah, Bogdanovich is up. Hunter is up. Maybe that's the switch he had. Yep. Hunter coming off the bench. I mean, not score as much. Boggy Boggy off the bench. Hunter come off the bench.

So he's a six-man. So he's up for six-man of the year as well. Yeah. Boggy Boggy coming off the bench. Well, man. Well, that's what he said in the, I don't know if it was postgame or halftime, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it to him, like, you know, use your guys, breaking it down for him, making him trust his guys even more. Them guys putting the time in, man.

They working hard as well, right? You ain't going nowhere working hard. Those guys are working hard as well, so let's trust them. Yeah. Right? And then let's give them the confidence that you already have. Let's give that to them guys, man. And when you have a pass-first guy, it helps.

Yes. The Hawks feel like potential to be a great regular season team just from those young guys. They'll be durable. They'll be able to play a lot of games. We'll see when they get to the playoffs. But then you got a guy that's been there. Yeah, he has experience.

So we get there, right? We all get there, but now we got a guy that's, right? Go ahead. Break that shit down, man. Break it down, okay? Break it down, okay? Go ahead and tell them. Break that shit down, man. Break it down, okay? Break it down, okay? Go ahead and tell them what that one guy. Tell them about that one guy that's been there.

One guy that's got the ball in his hand, right? And that's important, right? So it ain't the big that's been there. Eastern Conference Finals experience. It's the guy that has the experience that makes all the decisions. So, yeah, he has experience, man, to you guys' point. He has winning experience, not at the highest. He ain't got there yet, but to be in the East and win,

go deep in the playoffs with some of the teams that he's had. Those guys got to listen to him when he's saying some shit. Yeah, then you got to, yeah. Well, I got the experience, man. I'm going to tell y'all how I go. And you ain't got nobody else to listen to because Kobe and Mike

and all the rest of them, nigga, they ain't on this team. They can't talk to you. Only I can talk to you. I'm Nick and I'm the only one on this team

that's been here. So listen to what I'm saying. If I'm Alex Caruso, hey, nobody else on this team has been to the playoffs so you listen to me. Because I am an NBA champion.

I'm not Kobe. I'm not none of them because they're not here, and they wouldn't talk to you in any way. But, Alex Caruso, as an NBA champion, I am here to talk to you. I am here to talk to you because I have experience. You're uplifting God. Yes, I did not score 20. I did not play 20 minutes, but I did watch them play those minutes, and I was there in the lunch line. I was eating, too.

I seen what he liked to eat before the damn game. I tried it. It didn't work for me. Shit. We different. I don't eat yogurt. I'm lactose. I'm lactose.

I'm lactose intolerant. Swaggy, on your point, I hate you. I hate you. Swaggy, based on your NBA championship experience, was there a lot of yogurt being eaten on that Warrior Squad? No, it was more bagels and shit. Okay, bagels. Wow. I would have never guessed that.

What was that? Yeah, that's brother's style. Yeah, that's brother's style. So, more bagels. Okay. So, bagels helped... Okay. Yeah. Never having that experience. Like, he's Jim. So more bagels, okay, so bagels help me, okay We were levelist, oh We asked to chat like Trey young rolling the dice on the Knicks 92% say yes Chad. We thrive on negative. Do we appreciate y'all? We love disrespect here They live in New York. They live in New York. Steve voted. I mean, I voted, too.

You didn't vote no. You didn't vote no. Steve voted no. Absolutely. Steve, I ain't gonna lie. I voted no, too, just in solidarity. In solidarity. He got four computers over there. He logged on all of them.

His phone, his air phone. His phone, the iPad. Everybody's phoning in. All of them. He called his people, too. Hey, hey, hey, vote, vote, vote right now. This is going to be the question. Hey, listen, put it on the kid's iPad.

Baby, baby, now listen carefully. But here's another interesting thing. We asked the chat, are the Hawks contenders in the East? 49% said yes. 51% said no. But more surprising, that 49%. You know what that does. That 49 turns to 50.

And then something interesting, too. Trey's points per game are on a four-year decline. His 21 points per game this season is lowest since his rookie year. But he's also shooting career-low field goal and three-point percentage, too. So he's struggling and he's winning. Winning but distributing. His pass is up. Distributing.

That's the point. He's distributing the ball. Career-high assist. Let me pull it up. It's up two from last year. I think Rayford young the third Better wise known as Troy So Rayford junior career-high and assist it's a crazy dynamic ain't it man?

So you played to play worse with your system your a Career low in turnover. So let's yeah. Oh, no. No, excuse me. Excuse me. Leave the league in assist Turnovers. So let's. Yeah, oh, that's beautiful. Oh, no, wait, no, excuse me, excuse me, excuse me. Leading the league in assists. That's beautiful. Turnovers is not career low, excuse me. Who's under him? I mean, is the average, you know. Oh, 4.6, but averaging 12.2 assists.

Goddamn. That's good. That's great. So you see that 4.6 turnover, a lot of people be like, but that 2 to 1. See, but I play with two point guards, right, that led the league in assists and turnovers. Yeah.

One of them being Jason Kidd. Yeah. We always say that. And Andre Miller. As long as it's two to one, as long as it's better two to one. Great pass. But you can't be afraid to turn. If you're going to be a willing passer,

you can't be afraid to turn the ball, all right? So as long as you lead in the league in assists, you can be like to get that 4.6 down a little. Yeah, of course. You're making good decisions, though. You're making great decisions. 3.6, yeah, that's basically five. In seven years, the assists have gone up every single season.

Figuring it out. Yeah. Like I said, what y'all want to do. Think about if he had really polished players on his team. Them, they would go way down. He'd probably get way more assists. Way more assists. So, Shaw, let's talk about your New York Knicks.

Will not be going to Vegas for the NBA Cups in my finals, unfortunately. No good at it in the arena today. But they're fourth in the East and have a record of 15-10 through 25 games. Sean, how would you grade the Knicks' performance through the first 25 games of the season? Hmm. Let's see. Remember, they just rolled the dice on y'all.

They did. And it was planned. Give us an A minus, B plus. OK. I think we rallied to get to this point. I think losing that game sends a message. It's kind of like when you're in college and you're playing in a tournament,

like the ACC tournament. Right before you go to the tournament, you got to get your ass whooped. Or you win the tournament to give you confidence. Or you become a national champion and have national championship level experience. But see, we lost in the ACC tournament. Yeah, so it kind of gives you some momentum

when you do get a loss and you need to go back. Tibbs needs to get in the video room and make sure they learn from their mistakes. But I think they just keep doing what they've been doing. One loss, we're not going to define it. I think they just get to the next game. They're going to be fine. You all lost in the championship game or the first round?

Which one? In the tournament. We lost in the championship game. We lost in the game right before the championship. Okay. Semifinals? Semifinals. But then went on to- Yeah, 6-0.

They killed us. We played them. They blew us out by like 40 or something. Yeah, we was not playing with y'all. We was not playing with y'all. Y'all came in there happy and shit. I said, these motherfuckers really good. These L.A. motherfuckers in here smiling and shit.

I said, these motherfuckers good. I said, is this what college is? Because this is our second game. I said, damn. Yeah. And they brought their ass on here, too. Logic and Rodney. Yep, yep.

We can end it a little bit. You see that? Yeah, I did see that last night. I did see it. What is it? We'll get to it a little bit later in the show. Okay. Reporting getting questioned by agents.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Situations like that. I did see that. You say A-minus, big plus for Nick's grade so far this season. Yeah. Talking about a team that finished second in the East last year, 50-32 record, 15-10 right now. People sleeping on that. Second in the East, finished second in the East.

No one been sleeping on that. That wasn't even your team last year. Second in the East. But you were monitoring them? on that. Yeah. That wasn't even your team last year. Second in the East. But you were monitoring them? I was monitoring them. You were looking at other options. And my fellow New Yorker. You was ready to jump ship.

Yes, and my fellow New Yorker, we had a conversation. I said, should I? He said, no, don't do it yet. Let's wait till the summer. That's crazy. Didn't make that move. Well, let's keep this thing moving. We'd like to give a shout out to Aura Watch for sponsoring this show today.

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Out of respect. Out of respect. Gil promo code shit. But let's take a look. We've got the single elimination semifinals starting this Saturday with the Bucks and Hawks, I believe, at 1.30 p.m. Pacific. We are a West Coast show.

And then the Thunder Rockets at 5.30 p.m. Pacific in Las Vegas, T-Mobile Arena. Anybody going? I fucked myself. Mr. B may be on his way, currently trying to secure tickets. To Vegas? Yes.

You see that ass with me? Yeah, no invite. So now let's get to our Oral Watch. That's your homeboy. That's great. Let's get to our Oral Watch question of the day. We'll have three minutes on the clock. Which team would benefit the most from winning the NBA Cup?

The Bucks, the Hawks, the Thunder, or the Rockets? Let's start it now. Which team would benefit the most from winning the NBA Cup? Mm-hmm. I'm gonna say the Rockets. Only because what we were talking about earlier, I think it would give them a better chance to have multiple All-Stars.

I don't think it's gonna guarantee that, but I think it would give them a better chance to have multiple All-Stars. Because I think they deserve to have one or more than one, so... Yeah, I pick the Rockets. What do you think? I got to go with the Bucks. They in desperate need of something.

Some type of hope. Something. Something. Maybe hope. You know what? Where she at, man? You know where hope work at. Figueroa. She big. What? Big as. Yeah, it's nasty. It's nasty, man? You know where Hope work at. Big Arroa.

Big. What? Big is popping. Yeah, it's nasty. It's nasty, man. I'd probably say OKC, though. I don't know. Just because they need that feeling of winning something.

And that's what their goal is, to win a championship. So, yeah. To feel like a championship. Yeah, yeah. Feel like a championship just to get that feeling of winning it. That might be dangerous for them. Yeah, it might take them to a different level. That might be dangerous for them.

They already championship after every game. Yeah. Imagine if they actually win a championship. Championship in Vegas, too, for a young man. I might have to agree with you on that one. OKC might be the one to need this the most. Yeah, I'm gonna have to think. I'm gonna go with Houston with Lexi.

Figure. Nah, because they didn't get a lot of losing. Yes, the side was since. Of course. Who else was through? Because this is the side was since. Texas boy. He gonna go with Texas? Nah, OKC makes sense what y'all said, absolutely. But I just look at where Houston has been lately.

Like I said, they did a lot of losing to be in second place. Yeah, facts. Right? And to have something to early, other than the playoffs, to show for that... Yeah, I think the Rockets. Yeah, like something tangible. That makes sense. Because they dangerous, too. Yeah, I think Barack agrees with that. Yeah, like something tangible. That makes sense.

Because they dangerous too. If they win it. Like something tangible. Like, yeah, okay, we made the playoffs. Cool. But like, you're going to have like an actual trophy. You're going to get a check for it. A build on it.

I don't know if they'll give them a banner like. They got a banner, right? Like them. They got one, right? They have a banner. Everybody gets a banner. Everybody gets a banner. They've now set the precedent. Everyone gets a banner. Everybody gets a banner. Everybody gets a banner. They've now set the precedent. Everyone gets a banner.

Everybody gets a banner. NBA Cup champion, the hardest NBA Cup champion still. And hardest? The first one is always the hardest. No, y'all really set the tone because if y'all didn't put up a banner nobody would put up a banner. I don't think nobody would even think about putting up no banner. So y'all did that.

But you have the Bucks who have Darvin Ham and Torian Prince with NBA Cup. Yeah, I don't think he want to win that. Championship experience. Never lost in the NBA Cup. Never lost. I don't think he want to win that. Oh, is it? It's a, okay.

It's like a curse for the Ham, man. Is it a curse? The Ham-Dog? Or is it, look what happens when you got me on your team when we play in the Cup? Guarantee to win. But are you, you just guaranteeing to win the Cup. Guarantee to win. But are you... You just guaranteeing to win the Cup. You're not, you know?

Because I'm cut before... I'm going to be cut before the Cup. They're going to cut me before we get to the end of this shit, so I'm not going to win me something. Let me be undefeated in something, Brian. I'm leaving here with something. Yeah, he could be undefeated.

I just want to be undefeated in something. I don't know. That'd be good for Trae Young, too, though, just to win something after all the negativity. Right. It'll be good for Trae Young, too, though, just to win something after all the negativity. Right. It'll be good for Trae Young by himself. I mean, it'll be good for the Hawks. It'd be good for the Hawks, too, because they're young.

But Trae, just the way the media treat him, I think this is made, just from rolling the dice, it made us like, okay, this got the hype up. At least a week, they'll have to talk positive about them. They have to. You gotta talk good about them. If they win. You know haters thrive in any condition.

They probably don't have to do anything. Unless there's another headline in front of him for that week. You know people like to talk about other things. Oh, Brian, Brian, Brian, Brian. Just hope that it's only Trae Young if he wins. He don't want to hear no Laker talk. Oh, brah, brah. You know what I'm saying? Brah, brah. Just hope that it's only Trae Young if he wins. We don't want to hear no Laker talk. There we go.

We don't want to hear no Laker talk. Shout out Paulo. I know. A man of much skill, much dedication. Brah, brah. We don't even need to talk about them today, honestly. That was our Oral Watch segment of the day. Talk about the Oral. Let's talk about them brah, bra day. Let's talk about the Oral.

Let's talk about the Broncos. Let's talk about them Lakers, man. That was not on our agenda, but I was trying to keep it Laker-free. Please. There were reports, though, that... I don't want to talk about that. Come from Kendrick Perkins. Love Perk.

What did he say? What did he say? He said that last year, obviously, the Warriors and the Lakers were apparently in talks for a trade to send LeBron to team up with Steph. Rich Paul shut it down. He said this season, if LeBron did request a trade, there are no indications that he has requested a trade or will request a trade, but that Rich Paul would not shut that down

if he tried to get to the Warriors. In the aftermath of that, LeBron did not show up to Lakers practice while he dealt with personal issues. This is so crazy. Like, we could just say whatever they want. What's going on? Just say whatever they want.

What's going on? Kaminga for LeBron. Who cares if it's true? What's truth anymore? What's true? You messing with people. Like, who was the first person to report that? Me.

So, Brian Windhorst, Kendrick Perkins. You wanted to go to the Warriors? Me. Brian Windhorst, Kendrick Perkins, both? You wanted to go to the Warriors? Me. Brian Windhorst, Kendrick Perkins, both. Anybody can be like, it was me. Made that report, but both clarified that there was no trade being requested right now. You'd have to imagine if a trade did happen, in theory, Bronny would be a part of that

as well. And help bring his influence and respect. Nah, I don't think LeBron could leave LA. They did too much for him, man. They drafted Bronny and all that. I mean, several teams wanted to draft Bronny, I don't think LeBron could leave L.A. They did too much for him, man. They drafted Bronny and all that. I mean, several teams wanted to draft Bronny, I don't think. But they didn't, you know. Bronny coming off.

You think he can leave? Nah. You don't think that's the plan? Nah, he can't do that to the home team. He's stuck for life. I drafted your son. I feel like the only place he could go is... He got jumped in.

He got jumped in. Son got jumped in. Your son got jumped in the Lakers, though. Damn. Birthright citizenship. He's trying to get up out of here. He's trying to get up out of here. What pick did LeBron get drafted in?

You can't deport LeBron. LeBron was the 50th pick? The 55th pick. That's what I'm saying. I ask the question, what does it do if he does get traded? What does it do? What does it say? People hate LeBron anyway, Sean what I'm saying. I asked a question. What does it do if he does get traded? What does it do? What does it say?

People hate LeBron anyway, Sean. I'm asking the question. I'm just asking a very simple question. Honestly, I think it depends on where he gets traded to. It depends. Yeah. There's going to be different narratives team to team. He can't just get traded to any team.

So we move again. Like if he goes back to Cleveland, I think that would be like the safest. Look, we're moving. We have our resident Cleveland Cavs fan here. Would you be supportive of a LeBron back to Cleveland? He could go to Cleveland. If he wants the least

amount of pushback, it's Cleveland. I feel like. If he goes to the Warriors. My fear is if he goes to the Warriors. No, they already did that, though. They already built a super flag. Nah, it's hard to happen.

If he goes to the Warriors, they'll bring him down. And then he'll get the blame. It's like going back to that ex in high school that you sat down. I want to see that, though. I know. I wanted to see it like five years ago. But you circled back twice. Four years ago, I wanted to see Ron and Steph.

You done circled back twice. This is your third time back at Bertha. Bertha? You know, the first time I circled back, I left something in her. You definitely left a lot. Yeah, I got a chip. I left something in her. But you left. You left.

But I want to make her a wholesome woman now. Remember how you left, though. I want to make her a wholesome woman. You left me with nothing. I heard that first part, and I said, what? You left me with nothing. No, no. I left you with a chip.

I left you with a, you know, you circled back. A championship, a hope. A championship, gave her hope. Left me with nothing. First championship no, I left you with a chip. I left you with a, you know, you circled back. A championship, a hope. A championship, gave it a little whammy. First championship, 50 years. And you came back. I ain't got no pockets. What do I need pockets for? You left me with nothing.

I got nothing. You got a chip. They literally talk in code. They left you to build a foundation, have a team that is currently number one. Now you want to come back? You want to come back? Especially.

Yes. You want to come back? The least I could do. Now you want to come back? You want to come back? You want to come back? The least I could do. Now you want to come back. We need like subtitles. That's like when you see one of your old things. We need a translator.

You can go get her now. You can go get her now. I could go get her now because she's... Like they literally talk about NBA stuff. Yeah. To translate this.

No, it's movie reference. You got to be able to watch movies and play basketball at the same time. It's called Love and Basketball. You know that movie movie hate that movie. Okay, there you go There you go. She don't get it

Movie don't love basketball Lexi we could Find that you reference it that it's a horror Why is it a horror movie? I will not elaborate. There is a thread on Twitter about it. About what? Love and basketball? A lot of people agree.

Yeah, I believe it. It's a horror film. Love and basketball, a horror film. For what? For girls? Why would you dunk on me if you love me? Why would you do that? Why?

Why would you do that? What you mean, why would I dunk on you? Check ball! What? For a game? Yes, because I'm dunking on. So I'm about to dunk on you I'm gonna dunk on you in the court. I'm about to take you in the bedroom Don't go you in there, too. We so this is all

No, I'm the only one supposed to be dunking on you. Absolutely not. I'm not even gonna play if I score you strip. Very right. Come on, man. Come on. You gotta learn so much from me. Just that movie. Exactly. That's my point. That's my point.

My point. That was in the dorm room. That was in the dorm. You had to see it. The fact that these two love the movie. Yeah. Shout out Charles O'Bannon. I'm trying to go get some chicken wings.

I'm just saying. I'm gonna say nothing else. I'm just saying. Love and basketball. Y'all love that movie. That's we're so not late to where she at. Where she was at my school. Back then. Lexi Crenshaw High School.

It's a classic. I ain't gonna take that away. But, whole right. Trauma. I'm gonna tell you a fact about that movie after the show that may surprise you, but we're gonna chat about it after the show. It's close to my family's heart. Jacksonville?

I'm not from Jacksonville. No, I understand. Where did that come from? Home of the Jaguar. Spreading lies. I'm gonna say the Jacksonville because my dad is from there. I'm not from there.

Lexi's mom here, and she not playing all that. Boston girls. I'm running, man. Lexi's mom here. I don't know why she's from Boston. Be respectful. Dad, Duval?

Yep, he is. Oh, Lord. Oh, Lord. Yeah, D.all. Yep, he is. Oh, Lord. Oh, Lord. I'm going to leave him alone. He ain't nothing to miss. We talked a little bit about the Lakers.

Let's shift it over to the Clippers. I don't go back there often. Also known as the JV team. Kawhi Leonard yet to play a game this season while dealing with inflammation in his right knee. Clippers got some good news on Tuesday as the Claw practiced with the team for the first time this season. So according to Clippers

head coach Ty Lue, Kawhi did the offensive script, defensive work, but just no contact. But he pretty much did everything else. Just no contact, but he was out there

on the court playing with his team. Practiced on Tuesday? Yeah, on Tuesday. Did he practice Wednesday? Let me call my sources. That was probably the most important question. Call my sources. Did he practice? Let me call my sources.

Call my sources. Did he practice the day before? Let me call my sources. Probably not. Once a week. No, you got to let us see how he reacts. If he didn't practice today, I'm pretty sure he did something. According to a report from ESPN, it's Dave McMenamin. Kawhi could be available to play in the next two weeks.

Wow. Barring any setbacks. Without Kawhi could be available to play in the next two weeks. Wow. Barring any setbacks. Without Kawhi, Clippers are 14-11 this season, currently six in the West. If he's not back in two weeks, mother, oh, that mother. See? Yeah, yeah. Oh, I see. They setting a timetable up for him.

That's the worst thing. That's the setup. They don't stop with the timetable. Whoever the reporter is, like, don't stop that shit, bro. He just asked. I think that was conveyed to him. But don't do that shit, bro. He just asked. I think that was what was conveyed to him. But don't do that shit. Yeah.

And Ty Lue was on Stephen A. Smith's show recently and said that Kawhi's taking this very hard, wants to be out there on the court. His teammates know how hard he works. And like Gil has mentioned before, it's never really from the low management standpoint from the players because, as Ty Lue said, Kawhi, even at 40%, wants to be out there for his team,

but the organization has to step in, tell him to shut it down, and just make sure he's as healthy as possible. But if Kawhi is able to come back in the near future, what's the Clippers' ceiling with a healthy Kawhi? They're 14-11, very surprising. Six in the West currently. Norm Powell, James Harden out there doing their thing. Zubach out there balling as well.

But what's the Clippers' ceiling with a healthy Kawhi? Mmm. Zubac out there balling as well, but... What's the Clippers ceiling with the healthy Kawhi? Mm. Thinking about it. I don't know, but they're six right now. What's the ceiling of a basement? On what? Ceiling on who? We are in Gil's basement currently. I'll say it's at least 11 feet.

You said, what's the ceiling of the basement? Yeah. It's at least 11, 12 feet. Do-do-do. Like, what? I say they could get up to fourth place. Do-do-do. Do-do-do-do-do-do-do.

Do I need a band in this bitch? Ba-da-ba-ba! Ha-ha! Yeah, they ain't going nowhere, man. They cooked. They cooked. Clippers cooked. They cooked.

It's like the basement. What is the ceiling of the roof as a bald-headed gentleman... Oh, my gosh. That was crazy that he said that. Nah. I'm saying, what's wrong with you? Who's the one in the West right now? Oh, OKC.

Yeah, OKC rocked the second. They could beat Houston. They could beat Houston with a callback. Memphis, Dallas, gonna say Clippers. I think they got a better chance against Houston than OKC. Just because the Houston not used to winning. They starting to win, but... Clipper?

With Kawhi? Yeah, you see James and Kawhi out there. The reason you see James doing what James doing right now is because it's James. And he got a big like Capella. He just feels like Houston. So if it was Clippers versus Houston first the first round, who are you going with? With Kawhi or without Kawhi?

With Kawhi. I'm going with Houston. No. I'm going with Houston. I'm going with Houston. I'm going with or without Kawhi? They attacking them, boys. But without Kawhi, you feel like the same thing?

Are we saying like if Kawhi just came back or like... Just host you? Yeah. Like if we got to... You got to play Kawhi. I mean, you got to play Houston. What if he's, like, looking great and feeling great? You're still picking Houston? I'm still going with Houston. He look like

himself? Yeah. Oh, I'm gonna... He looks like that second team all-NBA player like last year. I think Houston got momentum right now. It don't matter what Kawhi do. That's like last year, though. OKC versus Dallas. If you see Kawhi and James, I think that... What is Kawhi's game and the reason why they didn't get out last year is because he loaded

up and he stopped the ball. It ain't like he's doing something outlandishly special that's going to change the dynamic of how we scheme for him. He's just going to ISO. Well, they are ISO. That's what I'm saying. And he's slower and he's coming off injuries. It ain't too slow. He's just going to iso. They all iso. That's what messed them up. He's slower and he's coming off injuries. It ain't too slow one.

But he's coming off an injury. You can have one slow, not too slow. He's going to be slow. You can't. But you can have one slow person out there. You can't have four. James is slow already. James is like 10 speeds lower than where he used to be.

And he's still killing. But you got two slower, older players. He's not shooting the ball as much as he used to. He's passing. Kawhi, man, they cook. But not by much, though. Norman Powell got to say that. Just look at the matchup. You're going to have who? James versus

Van Vliet. Four points. You're going to have Kawhi and Green, Brooks and... Kawhi and Brooks. Kawhi and Brooks? I'm adding Kawhi. Brooks and... Kawhi and Brooks. Kawhi and Brooks? I'm taking Kawhi. Green and Powell. I'm taking one-legged Kawhi.

I'm taking Brooks because he's going to put him on one leg. He's going to put him on one... He's going to put him on an ankle. He's going to put him on something. He's going to hound him all night. You're going to get your ass up out of here early. I don't know. It kind of seems like the Clippers have been playing like they've... They figured it out.

No, like they know Kawhi is going to come back. Oh, they're playing like that? Yeah, because it's... I'm looking at their scoring averages. they know Kawhi. No, like, they know Kawhi's gonna come back. Oh, they playing like that? Yeah, because it's... I'm looking at their scoring averages. You drop Kawhi in there, it's not really gonna mess up too much. Norman's not gonna hit. I need a few of those points, Norman. That's the guy you need the most.

Thank you. Who's the hard Norman, though? When he comes back, he's gonna regulate it to the six men. But no, no, no, no. No, no. No, no. He's going to leave them in scorn. He's going to leave them in scorn. He's still leaving them in scorn right now. So who moves? Won't be him.

It's going to be me. One of them. Somebody. I don't know who it's going to be, but I know who it ain't going to be. Norman, James, and Zubat are going to stay. And the rest of them can move. If you take Jones out, who you got coming on the bench? What do you mean?

No firepower. That's what Norm is for. You know what Norm is for. Norm is for firepower. And he been coming off the bench. That boy averaging 24. He averaging 24 just like the D'Vincenzo shit. I'm in New York.

I'm playing this position. I built this whole momentum with y'all. What you mean go back to the bench? I don't think they gonna put him on the bench. They can't. He's going to be the two. That's James, Powell, Kawhi. Who are the two right now?

Green, Van Fleek, and Brooks. Who are the two right now? I don't know. Small with that first four. I'm surprised. I think so. And then Zubac at the five. Amir. Am still at the four. I think so. And then Zubac at the five. Zubac at the five. Amir.

That's a big thing. Amir Jont. Amir Coffey. Yes, him. He out. He going to sit down. He starting? Yeah.

He starting seven games this season. There's no Jones is starting. He don't start. Chris Dunn has started 14 games this season as well. This is Chris Dunn. He out. And you got a solid bench. But you don't know.

But that bench is not a firepower, offensive firepower bench. You need offensive firepower not a firepower, offensive firepower bench. You need an offensive firepower bench when you got an offensive firepower five. You just need them to be able to handle themselves. So what I'm saying, Kawhi comes back, you put Norm, you got to put Norm back over there. No, you don't. He's your leading scorer. You got James Harden, Kawhi Leonard, and Norman Powell.

Yeah. And Norman Powell is your leading scorer. So you got to keep him in there. So do you... Is he the star now? Yes, he's still going to get... He's going to go from 25 shots... No, he's been holding it down.

He's been doing his job. So do we stop holding it down? No, he's going to do his job. His job is 24. No, my job is 24 right now. You're telling me not to do my job no more. It's going to be like 18, 20. So you're telling me to slow it down?

No. That's what happens with everybody. Tell me what y'all telling me. It's going to be a natural progression because it's Kawhi's shots. So what y'all telling me? I'm going to take less shots. It's like playing like, it's like KD playing like that. Or that he might still play with the second unit more than James and Kawhi.

But he's not going to go to the bench. He's not going to the bench. And he's going to be the guy with the second unit. Kawhi's going to be the first sub probably, unit, but he's still going to be a starter. Kawhi's going to be the first sub, probably, y'all. First? Oh, out? Out, yeah. Uh-uh.

You don't think so? What? Come on, now. With an injury? Norman Powell at 24 a game. Right now, but back then, you subbed Powell first, and then when you subbed Kawhi out, you bring Powell back in. That's when he get on the shot.

You bring Powell off the bench, so he got all the 24 points availability that he can have with nobody in his way at 24 a game. That's the only way to do that because you got two other guys. And you leave him in the fourth quarter with him. Yes. I like that. That's my thing. I'm like, you cannot play him with them.

He gonna mess it up. Why would anybody do that? That's nasty. Yeah, when Kobe came back. Yeah, you did that. Why would you put a 25-point game score on the bench? No way. What do you mean?

You gotta go to the bench now? He just talk him in that shit. That's crazy. Rashard just talk him in that shit. What? Why would you put him on the bench? Huh? Nah, he can go to the bench.

No. Norman? You see, I can see. The team's leading scorer. Off the bench. No. Because he's the third option. Because he's the third option.

Win. He's the third option. Because he's the third option. Win. He's the third option. Win. Third option. I'll wait. He not the second option. Win. He not the first option.

It happens. I will wait. Look it up. Win. Win what? Win what? When that happens. His scoring going to go down regardless.

When has the team's leading scorer. Goes to the bench. Lou Will. Shit. But they started there. What team did Lou Will lead and score? Which team? AI scoring?

The AI team? The team he was on, team AI? No, the one when AI left. So Andre Iguodala didn't lead the team in scoring? No, Lou Will did. What average? So it was a couple points, a point, half a point, some shit like that.

Was it that high? I don't know. Regardless, it's happening. It's happening. He has 24 points coming off. It's happening. We're going to see. Joe, what is it?

I don't know if it's correct. Talk to me. 2011, 2012 season, Williams led the 76ers in scoring with 14.9 points per game. No way. Is that true? Yeah, yeah, but Eagle Downs never averaged that many points. 11-12. he led the team?

Lou Wilk. Averaged 15. There's no way. Trash. So what y'all saying? I understand y'all trying to argue, but your argument is saying that it never happened. I did that. I did that.

All them losses in a row? I did that. I did that. Steve, that's you that had all them losses in a row? They were 35 and 31. 35 and 31. Let me double check. Let me confirm it.

Either way it go, that's a lockout year then. No, this is true. They had Holiday, Ed Vance. Lou Williams averaged 15. Drew Holiday averaged 14. Thaddeus Young averaged 13. Iggy averaged 12. Elton Brand.

That was Elton Brand year. Dallenberg. Yeah, they beat the Bulls in the first round was Elton Brand. Yup. Dallenberg. Oh, God. Yeah. Dallenberg and them. Yup. So what's happened, B'Var?

Stop that bullshit, man. Stop what? You said it never happened. It clearly fucking happened. Motherfucker averaged 15. What that got to do with happening? It happened. It was 24.

So what? 24. Do you think he's going back to the bench? No. 15 points off the bench. That's... It could happen. It could think he's going back to the bench? No. 15 points off the bench. That's going to happen. It could happen, but why would they do that?

Why would they do that? Because it's smart. They don't have to. Because it's smart. Did Lou Williams start? It's smart. It's smart. And then they put him to the bench?

It's more shots. He's going to mess up his rhythm. All his shots come in when Kawhi come out. No. Lou Williams did not start a game that season. So he never was a starter, and they moved him to the bench. Do you see a world where the Clippers bring Kawhi off the bench and he's going to start?

He's coming in right away. Hell no. Stop it. I'm just glad. Norm, hey, Norm. You got to go. You got to go. Go back to the corner.

Going back to the corner, bro. I want to extend that knee. It's up to me. I want to see that knee versus second. Honestly, yeah, if they ask Norm. It's not going back to the corner, bro. I want to extend that knee. It's up to him. I want to see that knee versus second. Honestly, yeah, if they ask Norah here. It's not going back to... Coffee, man, done. But it ain't enough time.

Been starved in his spot. And I see what you're talking about. Coffee, man, done. Been in that situation where you get all the shots, then the star come back. Yes, you don't want to be out there with all of them. You ain't going to get the same shots you get. So when they come out, no time is when you cook.

But was you leading the team in scoring? Yes, and then Kobe came back, and I went back. So that's... Went back to the bench. And I was happy, because that motherfucker didn't pass. So when he got out, I caught in and I did my thing. Damn, that sounds so on point. Does it?

It does. It sounds exactly how Norm Powell gonna have to figure out, man, I'm gonna have to get the best of my shit coming off because Kawhi and James is gonna demand the ball and I'm not gonna be getting that bitch the way I was. You know you're gonna be in the corner sitting like shit. Were y'all overachieving at this time? James get the chill.

They sucked. Them? Hell no, they sucked as a team. When he let them in scoring, they fucking sucked. No matter what it was. That does matter. They fucking were terrible. Because if y'all was winning, maybe it would have been a little different.

So now you're saying we got to move the goalposts because now we've proved twice that it has happened. And you said it's never happened. Why can't we just focus on one situation? The man average 15. Why can't we just stay focused? He never started one game. We are focused, y'all.

He said something, he just proved it right. He just proved it twice. The man didn't start one game. It's time to crash out. Let's do it. So Lou didn't start one game. So he wasn't leading the team in scoring and went to the bench.

At no point. Hey, man. How much Jamal average? Swag, I wouldn't let Kenyon talk to me like that if I were you. It's your arena. He can talk to me like that, I'm just the host, but no. It's your arena.

Hey, Jamal, I think it's Jamal with the Clippers. Jamal with the Hawks. Or with the Clippers. Or with the Clippers. It happens. Your star player, the person that lead the lead in scoring could come off the bench. Mark Harvick lead them in scoring?

Probably. We look at it. I know it's probably Joe Johnson did, but I know he was second. So, so, so now,

so second counts. What I'm talking about? Fuck out of here. Could have been New York. So now second counts. New York could have led. Oh, he didn't,

but he was second. If Joe was first, obviously Jamar would have fucking played more minutes. And if my auntie didn't stop. It happens. I averaged goddamn 17, 18. Kobe came back.

Shit, I was sitting in the corner. I come in when I want to do my thing. I chose to do my thing. So let me ask you a question. You're going to play with him, but... That's your question....it's more comfortable. So was it ever in any doubt in your mind or question that when this man came back that you was going to get the same amount of looks? I know. You know it, though.

He knows it. When Kawhi come back, he ain't going to get the same amount of looks. So therefore... He'll get the same amount of looks when Kawhi not out there. So when will Kawhi not be out there? Can't be when you start next to them. They're gonna know that. Why not?

Damn. Can't be when you start next to them. Why not? Because my shots is now your shots. Thank you. Let me get that back. Let me get that back. Let me get that back.

Let me get that back. Thank you. Let me get that back. Yeah, I know you enjoyed that. Hey, you me get that back. Let me get that back. Let me get that back. Thank you. Let me get that back. Yeah, I know you enjoyed that. Hey, you had fun, right? You're sitting in my chair.

There's enough shots out there. James shooting 16. They shooting 16. Yeah, both shooting 16. There's enough shots out there. There's more than enough shots. Some of you underlings are going to have to come up off yours. Why are they only taking Norm's shots?

Yes. Yeah, there's enough shots out there for Norm still. He's got to be efficient in his approach. That's all. You just ain't go... Some of them games, you ain't go get them 28. He shoot a 49% shot. Right? I'm not signing them. I'm Norm. I'm not signing up for that.

He shoot an 8-3 in the game. Me being PG now, I'm taking PG spot. Now I got to look like inconsistent like PG was. I'd rather be me when PG was here than coming off the bench. 50% from three, damn near. And the field. You're not taking him off. That has nothing to do with anything but him being a good

player and being prepared. He can do that off the bench, too. You could be prepared. That's what they're going to sell it to him? That's what Tyler's going to tell him? They say that when they ain't got nothing else to say. Wasn't he used to coming off the bench? Who?

He was used to coming off the bench. That was his role. He's a corner boy. Not anymore. Yesterday's prize, today's prize. DeVincenzo had to go back to the bench. My point exactly. Was he leading the team in scoring?

Oh, gosh. Huh? Was he leading the team in scoring? Second. So second counts now? Yes. Second does count. And this point, with this point, it does. But Devin Chinzo

is 19 a game. Devin Chinzo was starting and then he had to go back to the bench. They couldn't bring their own lunches. They ate lunch at 10.30, both of them. Oh, we didn't get what? Oh, that's what we're doing? We're doing little short bus jokes? Y'all ate lunch at 10.30.

Oh, come on. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do the short bus jokes. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that.

Don't do the insulting my intelligence. Because both of y'all said the exact same thing. Don't do that. I wouldn do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Insulting my intelligence. Because both of y'all said the exact same thing. I wouldn't do the insulting my intelligence shit. That's not cool. Not cool. I don't do no little buses. I make the buses. I make buses. Well, he was second. I'm an engineer. I'm far from anybody that needs some help reading and writing. He was second. I'm far. Swaggy, this reading and writing. You ever seen that? He was second. I'm far. Yeah.

Yeah. Swaggy, this is your arena. Rain Man was a genius. Yeah, he was. I ain't Rain Man. I make it rain. You know what I mean? Rain Man!

Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah!

Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah!

Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Let's go! Let's go! Fuck you, Vinny! You got to put my hand up no more. Paolo, with the preemptive strike of respect, hold on, hold on. I fucking hate you. Same. I knew it was coming.

I did too, I did too. Paolo, one day while I'll smart. I did too. So, Joe. Kylo, one day I'll outsmart you. You will give me the shotgun. All right. These two are fools. They going to think too. So, I'll bring you my next question. Absolutely.

Catch up. Catch up, Lex. Joellen B., keep on insolent. You know I got the jokes back now. Come on. Don't do it. You got one more. You got one more.

I hear a little whisper. Thing one and thing two. I don't know what. My got one more time. Don't do it. You got one more. You got one more. I hear a little whisper. Thing one and thing two. My motherfucking ears big. I heard it. Turn into the Grinch real quick. I almost wore my outfit today. I almost wore my outfit.

We're going to talk about that in a second as well. We're going to talk about that in a second as well. Joel and Labib played five games this season. Kawhi Leonard's played zero games this season. Do a little hypothetical. Normally we like to do hypotheticals on Gil's Arena, but this is Swaggy's Arena presented by Underdog Woo Woo.

Who will play more games this season? Kawhi or Embiid? Damn, that's sick, bro. That's sick. You're diabolical here. I'm going Kawhi because Embiid not doing back-to-backs. Shit, Kawhi? Kawhi not even on the court. He's not doing back-to-backs. Why? Why not even on the court?

He's not doing back-to-backs. I'm still picking Kawhi. I'll go Embiid. How many games did Embiid play so far? Five games. He only got to play ten. No, I could have sworn Embiid played more games. So did I.

There were powerful games, though. They were. Five powerful games. I'm going with Embiid. His last two., though. They were. He coming. Five powerful games. I'm going with Embiid. His last two. He already started. Yeah, I'm going. Back-to-back 30 pieces in his last two games.

But last November 20th, then he missed a bunch of games, came back December 8th. But nonetheless. Back-to-back 30 balls. Two 30 balls a month. You got 34 years. 30 balls a month. Seems about what he's doing. I'm still going Kawhi.

Lexi, you're going Kawhi, can you? Who do you think? Play more games this year. The guy that's playing. That is nasty. Yeah, you got to. You got to. I'm going going Kawhi. Lexi, you're going Kawhi, can you? Who do you think to play more games this year? The guy that's playing. That is, man. Yeah, you got to. I'm going with the guy that's playing right now.

Okay, you're saying B with the five-game head start? He's playing. We don't know when Kawhi coming back. Y'all going with that two-week thing. Two-week, right?

That's a set-up. That's a fucking set-up. I'm falling for it. That's true. Barring any setback. You falling for it? Yep, I am. Barring any setback.

Underdog, can we get the higher-lower going, please? Come on. Yeah, that'll be sick. That'll be sick. I'm going with the guy that's actually got basketball shoes on and putting the basketball game uniform on. Shot. Who will play more games this season?

Kawhi Leonard or Joel Embiid? Joel Embiid. You got Embiid? Swaggy, this is your arena. I'm going to go Embiid. Okay, so we got Embiid on this side. Embiid with Kenya. Lexi. Kawhi.

Kawhi, okay. We will see it. Perhaps another Nobu dinner will be added. You know why I went Kawhi to play? So I can see what happens with Norman Powell. That's the only reason. Oh, you gonna see. Only reason why.

For sure. You gonna see. Ty Lue gonna make it. It's a clear example. Hey, Norman's back to the trenches. So we asked the chat. That's the coldest feeling. We asked the chat who will play more games this season.

They let them taste. 64% said Embiid. 64% are trusting the process over the claw. Damn. All right, so as I previously mentioned, we got our holiday sweaters. Back in the mix. I'm going to tuck my mic in here. As I previously mentioned, we got our holiday sweaters. Back in the mix. Here we go. I let it go.

Here we go. I let it go. Here we go. I heard everything you said. You were pissed. You were pissed. He was pissed. That shit was so funny, bro.

Did you design it? I said, I stole this shirt. I stole this sweater. He said, I'm the Grinch, bro. I don't know at all. Everybody, I'm the Grinch. They made you this sweater that gives, I don't care. I don't care, right?

That's probably why. So, let's take a look at our collection. I stole this sweater. He said, I'm the Grinch. I don't know. I don't want everybody. I'm the Grinch. They made you a sweater that gives. I don't care. So let's take a look at our collection. He said, buy one of these. Get mine. So you can see Gil's red sweater with his Maybach.

Here's him and Terry Larry's sweater. Lexi's sweater in the pink. Lovely Christmas tree. Lovely snowman. Bedazzled. Lovely. They changed it from the colored. They changed it from the gray. I mean, they kind of just changed it. We got swaggy, most hated.

Hey, I like the most hated. No, that shit fire. And the green Tough Crowd sweater is obviously branded. Man, we got some good ones. So they're now also available on gillsarenamerch.com. We have the link in the chat and show description. Get yours ASAP. So our deal was whoever sold the most sweaters among the cast

will get 5,000 underdog bucks. Similar to Disney money, you can use them on the underdog app, but only at an underdog. What's the time frame? So we have an update on the sales result. Tie for fifth. Gil and Kenya are both tied for fifth place. Yo, what'd I tell y'all?

Don't fuck with Debo. Don't fuck with De Yo, what'd I tell y'all? Look, look. Don't fuck with Devo. Don't fuck with Devo. What'd I tell y'all? What'd I tell y'all? Wow, the pink isn't last? Wow, that surprised me. I tell you, motherfucker. Hey, y'all shouldn't be selling that bullshit, man.

I want to spend Red's money. Like, there it is, man. Who buying that bullshit? You're not last by yourself. Who buying that bullshit? Grandma's, man. Granny's. Yeah, it's like... Like... I'm being serious. It's like the grandma's out there. It's like beige. You're not allowed to do this. You're not allowed by yourself. Who buying that bullshit? Grandmas, man. Granny.

Yeah, it's like, I'm being serious. It's like, who buying that bullshit? It's like beige. Shot, as you pointed, the grandma community has been very supportive of K and Sweater. Just beige. Like, skin complexion, right? Put that shit on, I'm going to disappear.

I'm going to put the Christmas tree on my chest. He gets mad. You're going to disappear? So in fourth place, it's skin. He gets mad. You don't disappear. So in fourth place. This is the color of K's skin. Swagger is. Transparent in his bitch. In fourth place, we have Lexi.

With the pink. With the pink. Wee. Glitter. We had glitter and. Hey, glitter and pink, not last. Be dazzled. OK, OK.

Swaggy, you came in third place. You know, this is your. The shot is definitely winning. Why? The shot. Because yours is the best. Oh. You know, this is your... Rashad is definitely winning. Why? Because yours is the best. Oh. Mine's the best? Mine's the best. I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it. David Sternstahl. Hold on. Let me get the frozen envelope.

Second place... not Rashad. Brandon's Tough Crowd sweater, second. First place with a sold-out sweater shot, sold out on the gillsreenemerge.com website. Our winner, Rashad McKay. No, for real. I said that. I remember the show we got most laughing. That shit was awesome. You like the logo.

That's why I kept it. I was like, I didn't like that motherfucker. I know it's kind of hard, though. Producers would like to know how many sweaters did you purchase of yourself? I haven't purchased any yet. I was waiting to see the results, so then I could purchase. Very, very high-quality material, I'm told. I haven't purchased any yet. I was waiting to see the results, so then I could purchase.

Very high-quality material, I'm told. Yeah. I created it myself, okay. Very heavily purchased in the work sector. A ton of work across the country. I hope. They not getting no presents. No presents, too.

No presents, too. No presents. They all... You should give them all the sweaters. Uh-uh. A thong sweater? No, I They all act it up. You should give them all the sweaters. A throne sweater. Uh-uh. A throne sweater? No, I got them the little, you know, the full onesie?

A throne sweater. You know the full onesie joints with the back out? What is a throne sweater? I have no idea what they're talking about. Y'all don't know what throne means? So, Rashad, you just won 5,000 underdog bucks, which you can use for Pickham's best ball. Hold on. Did they put it in there, y'all?

Oh, that's it. It put it in there? Zero zero Lost last night Coming so Are you gonna share with the fans? That five thousand underdog bucks absolutely. Okay, we're shot Yeah, I'm a Sarah with it with my dog, Nick. You know what I'm saying? My dog, Kenyon, and Lex, and Cheryl, for sure.

Not your dog, Josiah? No, no. For sure, my dog. For my dog. You did kind of skip over him. No, I did. I wouldn't wait for the best for last. See how he's fucking up the last?

See? Now I got to say Gil. Now I got to say Gil last. You clowned me recently. It was hurtful. But we worked our way through it. That shit was funny. Now I got to say Gil. You clowned me recently. It was hurtful. But we worked our way through it. That shit was funny. Had me crying in the locker room.

Had me crying in the locker room. I missed it. Oh, that shit was holistic. The chant was good. It was good. It was good. I keep it down. I deserved it.

I deserved it. I deserved it. And I take it honorably. Appreciate the chat. Good man.ably, but... Appreciate the chat. Good man. Appreciate the chat. Appreciate the chat. Everybody, you want to get a Christmas sweater,

go to gillsarenamerch.com. Buy them now. It's immaterial. Be available through the holiday season. Wins again. We told you you were going to win. Appreciate you. We literally told you.

That was a... It was a nice one. It was a nice flex. It was a nice flex. It was a little shaky. A little shaky. So speaking of the holidays, while the holidays often represent the season of giving, for some folks, they represent the season of taking.

So after the NFL issued a memo to all 32 teams and security directors about a recent string of burglaries to players' homes, the NBA recently did the same as well. So on the NBA side, players such as Mike Conley Jr. and Bobby Portis have been targeted in Robert E. And on the NFL side, reigning Super Bowl champs Patrick Mahomes

and Travis Kelsey were targeted as well. And just this week, while Bengals quarterback Joe Burrow was playing a Monday night football game against the Cowboys in Texas, his house was the target of a break-in, despite a local police officer being on detail at the house that night. So Burrow spoke on the incident briefly yesterday.

So obviously everybody has heard what has happened. I feel like my privacy has been violated in more ways than one. And way more is already out there than I would want out there and that I care to share. So that's all I've got to say about that. We live a public life, and one of my least favorite parts of that is the lack of privacy. And that has been difficult for me to deal with my entire career. Still learning, but I understand it's the life that we choose doesn't make it any easier to deal with.

Had Burrow been at his house, he would have been able to foil the wet bandits, similar to Kevin McAllister did at Home Alone, but was, again, in Texas. The wet bandits. The wet bandits. Would have got this worse. So the trend of targeting athletes is pretty clear here. League memos have urged players to beef up security systems in their homes and store valuables in a secure safe. Investigators are saying that a South American crime ring

is responsible for these coordinated burglaries. The common thing is that all of these occur while the players were not at home. So I just want to know, what's your reaction to the uptick in burglaries in athlete homes? Burglary. Scary. Shit ain't new. Yeah, that shit happened to me. Happened to me?

You got got? Yeah. I was about to say, I was like, this is not this couldn't be the first time. Fucking house got broken into my working here. If you don't know when you're getting lined up. Right, this shit is. Somebody lining you up, trying to.

This shit has been going on. Oh, yeah. This is just social media. This is where you go here. You got the cleaning lady who knows her cousin coming around. Doesn't seem too difficult to coordinate. They know where you are. Go to NFL.com or NBA.com. Click on the schedules tab.

Oh, he's not going to be here this year. It happened to one of my teammates in Durham. They lived in an apartment building. Damn. Was it Brumman? So here, like, dude at the front desk building. I mean, you gotta come in. You gotta come in and talk to somebody and get up there and they still

got... Listen, man. These are criminals. Where there's a will, there's a way. Facts. Right? Whether it's the South America, whoever it is, whether it's them targeting, whether it's Junebug and Jeremy, whoever the fuck it is. Like, these dudes are criminals, man, and they take time.

Dude broke my house in Dallas, right? I was on... He used a device that was tracking movements. When people was coming and going out of my... Not just my house, other people's houses as well. Damn. So, dude, these dudes are criminals, man. That tracking device, crazy. Right? He put it on something that

you won't notice to look at. Knock out your signal and all kind of shit. Knock out the power. He eventually got caught because somebody, dude, found the device. But it's been going on, man. It's unfortunate that, like dude said, when you live a public life, nowadays

it's more media outlets and everybody got a police scanner and... That's true, yeah. Somebody go home and tell this person that everybody know and they got somebody that work for them. Man, it's... The world is harsh, man. Safety is one thing, but preparation is another.

You can't be arrogant enough to think that you're just above being a regular person that get robbed like anybody else We got to prepare better just because we athletes on me. They're not gonna come to this house. Oh, it's Joe Borrell house We're not gonna go. It's Joe Burrow house. We going in there. We definitely going in there. But what kind of What kind of what kind of what's in there? Like you got a if I'm got this type of money No, you want to kind of thief you gotta be You know what kind of thief you gotta be with the type of money these dudes is getting you got to be in my six Mission impossible. Oh, yeah, you got to take precautionary measures

My house does like I said do broke in he Took stuff that didn't matter right? Yeah, you didn't get nothing of value it like everything that he would have had to have a chainsaw. Right. Damn. To get the real shit. To get behind a door that had a combination lock on it, it had to be a seat of closet that's in this closet.

Where at behind the door? There's three locks. Where at behind the door? Three. Trust me. Three. I sold that. Three. Trust me. Three? I'm so lying. Three. Trust me.

Three. So he probably went to the door, a combination, like he probably couldn't get in and he didn't think that he would have kicked that door in a problem and he would have had another two doors. It didn't take time. I didn't think about that. I was not mean. I ain't gonna lie.

If you got shit of value, you gotta take take those measures, like, just in case. I came back home after the game. All my shit was just on the floor. I'm like, damn, I left the house fucked up, didn't I? I'm going to shit. I see clothes and shoes. I was like, damn, I left the house like that? Coldest thing that has to work with me, too.

I'm like, damn, you know, you coming in, you thinking the house gonna be a... Shit, damn, man. I was like... This how you live? I'm like, damn, you know, you coming in, you thinking the house gonna be... She said, damn, man. That's how you live? I'm like, oh. Oh, Lord. Don't get no bonds tonight.

I'm like, yeah, I know how to do this, man. I know how to do this. Waggy, did you ever suspect that Gil may have had something to do with it? Probably was, because he did break into my house a couple times. Gil broke into your house? It was his house he let me use. But it was yours. You were squatting.? It was his house he let me use. He broke into his own house. It was yours. You were squatting.

You were squatting. You have legal protection in that regard. You can't just roll into the spot without permission. It's my house. You broke into my house. Let me break up into my own shit. You just ran here. Yeah.

Yeah. That shit is different, man. I think they got... I got a guy for like a chain and a watch and stuff. Because I didn't... I never... I didn't have a safe back man. I think they got, I got a guy for like a chain and a watch and stuff because I didn't, I never, I didn't have a safe back then. I was young,

just being naive. But yeah, it was crazy. So, K, what advice would you give to current athletes? You know,

they sent that memorial storage or stuff. You're talking about doors, doors, you know, you got multiple. Take precautions, man.

Get you a safe. Set your alarm for damn sure before you leave the house. Like, even if you're in the bitch at night, like, set your alarm, man. Get you a safe. Set your alarm for damn sure before you leave the house. Like, even if you're in the bitch at night, like, set your alarm, man. Lock them windows. Leave the house. That's up here now.

Have all kinds of, like, just take precautions. I remember DeMar telling a story, his spot in, I think, Hidden Hills. He did, yeah. Yeah, but. He shot at them. Like, the kids were in the house. He was at one part of the house. The kids were in the crib.

I think his neighbors were D-Ways, so they rolled over to D-Way's spot to look at the surveillance footage to try and figure out. I think that's the concerning thing. Yeah, with the kids being there. That's not fair. Oh yeah, no. I mean, it happens to regular people. I know one of my partners, our kids go to school together. They hit his house. He's a few doors down at a party. His nephew was in the room sleeping. He, he wasn't even sleeping. The room upstairs dude was in the game. My man, listen.

Could've went crazy. Yeah, that's my feeling. My son was in the game. He was in my partner's collector. He got some shit shit, right? He showed me. He hit the garage and the dudes heard the garage door. He showed me what he grabbed. I was like, oh, yeah. It was was finna be dude jumped from the top second floor you saw the dude limp

out on the security because he got security cameras in the house as well so i saw all the footage he jumped down and snapped his shit he ran out to the end yeah it was gonna get bad for him had they been like 30 seconds, but it's happened to regular people Regular people just caution Nick I should be athlean you got jewelry and money in the house and did you just yeah you've been targeted trust having all kind of lasers and man landmines and You better not come over here You might die today boy. Don't come over here fucking with me. So Nick obviously you have your NBA championship ring

I just want to make sure you keep that safe because there may be people who have not experienced one thing I did learn the insurance money is good from it. So shit Rob me So you want the niggas to rob you? No. I'm trying to see what that feel like. I can set something up for you. We can make something up. I've been planning that myself. Made it look good.

Horrible bosses. Horrible bosses. Explain it. We get the money. All right, so let's talk about something, Kenyon, that you brought up earlier in the show on your phone that the chat at home didn't know. But the situation go with Jimmy Butler, there was a report that the Heat may be interested in making a move for Butler,

who's in the last year of his deal, has a player option this summer. Obviously, Jimmy Butler was looking for a long-term extension this past summer. Pat Riley said the nay-no to that has yet to give him one this year. But after Shams posted a report saying that the Phoenix Suns are another team that Jimmy Butler's agent, Bernie Lee, has indicated in league circles that the six-time All-Star is open to as a destination while Miami listens to trade offers, joining Dallas, Houston, and Golden State. Butler's agent, Bernie Lee, took exception to being named in the report and responded as such. I believe we have the full screen of it.

He said, Shams, this is your opportunity to say my bad. I let ChatGPT write my tweets and it went old school Peter Vesey. Shams, Peter was a writer in the 90s. Be a trendsetter. Invent the new I was hacked. Carry on. All thank you.

He said, Shams, Peter was a writer like he didn't know who he was. The irony in this tweet. And then this morning, our first take, Shams responded, I 1,000% stand by reporting. It's fully vetted. And as a professional, that's what I do. That's what I get paid to do.

Report truthfully and accurately. That's what this is. Period. Oh. Put period on it. Period. No, that's right. That's how he on it. Period. No, that's right. That's how he said it.

Period. Bernie used to be my agent. Period. And Bernie also said the following, too. Yeah, ironically. Bernie, that was Bernie's... I know what the truth is behind what Bernie could... So Bernie also said, prior to saying that tweet, he said, I don't know what I'm going

to do because I'm a middle-aged dad, but just know it would indicate severe dislike. World, all this is fabricated. I have never and honestly wouldn't help me or the position I represent to do anything that's been reported by said journalists. He also told Sean if they gave you a pass, stop putting my name on your complete and utter made-up bullshit because you know

you normally aren't worth my time to acknowledge. Damn. Yeah. You guys be making that shit up, man. Bernie ain't say none of that shit.

Coming from Bernie's official... Can't be the same Bernie I know. Bernard Lee. Can't be. Bernie's an Asian? The Asian Bernie?

Bernard Lee. Asian Bernie? Yep. Week Lee. Bernie's an agent? The agent Bernie? Bernard Lee. Agent Bernie? Yep. Weekend at Bernie's. Oh, man, that's crazy. So what do you make of this beef between Butler's agent and Sean's? Sean's an honorable man, hardworking, good dude. Agents don't be blowing their secrets out, I know that.

See, that's what happens when you don't state your source. He didn't say who told him, but he said it. He just don't be born a secret sound. I know that that's what happened when you own state your source No, he said he said he didn't say who told him league circles Right like the league they are He said Bernie said it Now you got to tell you who said Bernie said it right Bernie don't want nobody to know he's saying anything. Yeah.

So therefore? You wasn't supposed to say to the sleeper team that we was going to surprise everybody with while you fuck it up type shit. It's his job. Mm. It's his job. Damn.

So you think Sean just pulled that out of... Thin air? Thin air? Or... If he going as far as saying he, all the reports is, like, it's three sides to every store. So where he ever he end up, if he end up in Phoenix. Right, then what?

Somebody. Bernie, you're going to apologize. I mean, or they square up. Squabble up, squabble. The Bernie lean. Squabble up. See, what's up, Bernie? No, it can be some truth.

That's why I don't report in, like, let's. Does this usually come on in a dress? Because Jimmy been in trade rumors all the time. But this is the first time. First time we heard the agent come out. So that's why I'm kind of like, it's got to be some truth to it. And after the report initially broke, I believe Jimmy did not speak to the media,

left the facility that day. Really? We had talked about it earlier. Yeah, so this is all kind of mixed. I didn't know he was his agent. It makes sense, though. Like I said, last year, his deal has a player option this summer.

If a move were to be made, it had to be made by the deadline. If not, Jimmy has the potential to exercise or to opt out, become a free agent, leave the Heat with nothing. With nothing, yeah. Ooh, I think you gotta train him. You got to. Or extend him. Or extend him.

Nah. What for? Right, what am I saying? I'm just saying. I'm just being honest.'m just saying. Your option. I'm just being honest. Like, no, Jimmy is a hell of a player with the right pieces around him and right situation, but they done made it there a couple times on bad, the eighth seed make it to the final.

Like, you can't rely on that all the time, man. Yeah. But sign and trade? Extend and trade him? For who? I mean, we had talked about there's a potential. You just let him walk for nothing, or you sign him to an extension.

Now you at least have an option to try and see if somebody don't come over to deal. I'm not afraid to let Jimmy walk. I'm not, yeah. If I'm Pat Riley, now I'm not afraid. That's last option. That's last option. Let him walk to get nothing? They can get someone else.

Not for Jimmy, in free agency. Who? Who's going to Miami? I don't know. Who has? Not a place. Nobody has. That's not a place people want to go? No. Because they be working too hard?

Yes. Who's ain't trying to go to Miami? People ain't signing up for that. Yeah, they love Miami. But I know, but... Not the Heat. Which is so funny because Miami, the city versus the team is like... Two opposite things.

It's night and day. Right? Like playing overseas. You can't even... Like if you are someone that really likes Miami, you cannot go play. Oh, no, no, no. Because you're not going to do what they expect you to do. Take special people.

Yeah. That's why they begin all these second rounds and things off the street type. Them already the hard worker, hustler. Second round picks. You ain't got, you can't afford to go out. Right. Your life revolve around trying to make this damn team backs In a couple years ago. I'm in the second round picks they have and undrafted guys

Yeah Caleb Martin. Caleb Martin, Vincent, Duncan Robinson to get drafted. No, no, not Dunn. Was it Dunn? Max Strews. Max Strews. Dunn.

Max Strews. Dunn. Dunn. Kendrick Nunn. Kendrick Nunn. Kendrick Nunn. Kendrick Nunn was over there. So, no, they had a bunch

of guys that... Seems that's like a springboard for the second rounders. Right? If you could play hard, come in and give us... Do Kevin Love in there. Dude, you...

They haven't had anybody fresh since Bam. A lot of liquor stores. A lot of them. And they can do that, right? Bam and Hero. Bam and Hero. Them are the only two. And Jaime Highcare is right.

Highcare. Right. But other than that, you got guys that... But Jaime Hickey went to school for four years. He played for Mick Cronin. Yeah. Hey, listen. Hey.

Hey. He's not... He's goddamn nuts. He's not fazed by anything going on in Miami. Not anything that's going on in Miami as far as working. He played for Mick Cronin. He's been motherfucking up and down the court for numerous... Time was.

Yeah. For four years. Not worried about anything you talk about, Pat. He definitely got motherfucking cussed out for four years under Mick Cronin. He's been motherfucking up and down the court for numerous years. Time was. For four years. Not worried about anything you talk about, Pat. He definitely got motherfucking cussed out for four years under Nick Cronin. Absolutely. It do seem like they develop players good, though. Who that? Miami.

Because they're older guys. No, see this. They develop a great worker. A great worker. But they get older guys, though, right? Them guys that's not getting drafted, they're not 19. They're 22. Yeah, they didn't go to school for three, four years. They know about the grind.

They know how to play basketball. They ain't afraid of the work. And they need this job. And they not new to the work either. I'm drafted and second round. Facts. I will run through that goddamn wall. Just to get this contract signed.

And back through that bitch for a different, not the same hole that I just created. Damn. I'ma create a whole different hole coming back through the wall. Damn. Right? To get this job. Stop, stop. Multiple holes. Brother knowledge came out, boy. I'm going back and forth, man. You done been in training camp with dudes trying to make the team? Absolutely. You like, I'm not, don't match me.

I'm not with him. Reuben Patterson was trying to make our team in Denver. Do you think he made it? Yes. And one time they tried to cut him, they brought him back, right? You can't, who wants to play against that? Go ask, go ask Mel O'Hire was every day. You gotta tell somebody, get him.

Go ask Mel O'Hire was was everyday plan against Reuben Patterson. Damn, Reuben. Reuben, are you okay, Reuben? Shit. Give him a contract already, please. Yes, please sign this thing. Just sign him. And he still ain't going to turn it off because you can tell him it ain't guaranteed money yet until January 10th.

Damn, I got to keep grinding. So, right? So them the dudes that Pat Riley and them get. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What was they look? What was Hero, first round?

Udonis undrafted. And dude, there are a few in the far between now. Udonis didn't get drafted, played him for 20 years. The only top pick, the last top pick they had was what, Beasley? That was like a prima donna, yeah. Yeah. And that was a mistake. And that was a mistake prima donna. Yeah. Yeah. He was 13th overall. And that was a mistake? I did a lot of work. And that was a mistake, them drafting Mike?

Oh, Mike Beasley? Yeah, they should never did that. From both parties. Both parties. He a legend, though. Absolutely a legend. Mike Beasley would have been a legend. He would have been somewhere else.

You know, Mike, he was like child. If he would have went somewhere else, it would have been better for him. Absolutely. Way better situation. Yeah, Mike was too young for Miami. No, too young for the heat. Just that too much.

He didn't separate Miami from the heat. Yeah, yeah. He was trying to integrate it. Kid, man. Yeah, he was too young for that. 19 years old, man. And cold. World at your feet, 19 years old, trying with that kind of pressure?

And deal with Pat and them, and deal with Pat Nim. And deal with Pat Nim. That's tough. And go out, come on, 19? That ain't gonna work. And you ain't never been yelled at? Yeah. Oh, he got yelled at.

He played for Bob Huggins. Oh, Bob was at K-State? That one year? He definitely got fucking yelled at. I can tell you that shit. So, I'm referencing these names. So, Mick Cronin coached under Bob Huggins for y'all that don't know this. The current coach at UCLA.

The current coach at UCLA. So he coached under him, so if you didn't play for either one of them, you've been motherfucked. Very old-school coaching approach that a lot of players in this day and age LeBron and Lamar. Emotionally get fazed by. Yeah. But Jaime Jaquez unfazed.

Absolutely. At no point. I think he was in Minnesota during the LeBron Miami years. He got drafted by Miami, dude. And then he went and got traded to Minnesota. I was saying, was Beasley ever LeBron or after? He was with LeBron. So Beasley got drafted in 2008.

With the Lakers. He was. I talkedzi got drafted in 2008. He was. I talked to him after that show. I was like, why you ain't get signed back? He said, man, should have never challenged Bron one-on-one, man. I don't believe that that's what he said. So he played the first two seasons in Miami, then went to Minnesota, came back to Miami

for 2013, 14 season, 14 season. That's right. He didn't have that challenge shit. That's right. I'm about to say, he did that one-on-one. He did that one-on-one. That challenge shit. That's when they was there. When I was there. When I was there.

The challenge, one-on-one loss and just killed the spirit. Second time. I understand. That happens. That happens. No, it's, man, going to Miami, you have to be prepared, and they can do, treat certain guys like that. That's, so this is, so I reference, so the same thing about the Heat, I say about Mick

Cronin, right? In order for you to get the guys who you think you need to get, which is the five-star guys, and for you to get the top three agents, you got to tone that shit back. Yeah, you do. Mick can't be that way and get five-star recruits. Yeah.

How many five-star recruits have Mick got recently? I'm speaking the truth, right? Unfortunately, because of how he coached. When you was at Cincinnati, you can go three-star guys, you're in the middle of the country. Mm-hmm. When you're in a certain organization, you can do that shit to people, but when you need so in order to attract free agents- Five stars.

But you need a five-star. And stars, and five stars, you got to- You got to- Tone it down a little bit. Ain't no way a five-star guy coming in free agency and you talking about, yo, we got body fat test and we got this and I've been used to going out three, four days a week.

That doesn't sound appealing to you that we got cardio four days a week. So we got to do extra cardio four days a week. Even if you don't go out, that don't sound right. Even if you don't go out, that don't sound right. That shit sucks. That shit sucks. Wait, wait.

Even if I don't open the house, that shit sounds terrible. It only sucks if you ain't really been... That's why Miami's been the challenging destination for everybody, because it's challenging. Two days a week is cool. It's challenging to change. But who's going, though? I know. We know nobody's going, but what you just said is the ultimate challenge for a player.

No going out, eat right, be on time, and make sure you perform. That's difficult for a guy who's never had that accountability. Cronin's got a few through there, but it takes a certain... Through there, but... Yeah, Mark Bailey, Peyton Watson. Everybody hates running. Not unless somebody is telling me to run. That, too.

When people tell me, get on the line. Man, I'm not about to get on. I sure like it. Everybody not built for that, Kenny, as you know. If we could just pop a pill to get in shape, I would. I've been safe like a motherfucker today. But my thing is, like, some guys you can do, but it just, that's not attractive to some guys, right?

Like you said, most guys. So most guys you're going to get as a free agent, they already established that you need to come there. Yep. They're already established with whatever habits they have. They got great work ethic.

Work ethic, it's one thing. All that extra... Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You're not used to... You're not going to put this on top of my work ethic. Yeah, and that's too much. And I mean, you're nine.

Yeah, that's too much. You're eight, whatever it is, you're not much. And I'm in year nine. Yeah, that's too much. Year eight, whatever it is, you're not going to, I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to sign up. You can trade me there and if it's part of it, we can talk about this shit.

It's like being a senior doing freshman shit. Come on. Are you, Zach? No, I'm not doing that. For sure. We're not going to do that. The freshmen go ahead.

Absolutely. Y'all dump me off it. We're not going to do none of that shit. So how Let them freshmen go ahead. Y'all go ahead. Absolutely. Y'all dump me off it. We're not gonna do none of that shit. So how it used to be, this is real shit with other coaches. So Max Good came to Cincinnati. He was doing like little camping shit, right? Great prep school coach, right?

He wanted dudes to be in there running through plays and shit. They had audience in there, coaches cleaning. Oh, yeah. Man, y'all young boys, y'all, I'm not finna. Can you come out here? Nah, they got it. Right. Not doing that, dawg.

I'm not. I'm not doing the demo for y'all. I'm not doing the demo. I'm not a demo player. Who would be the number one pick in the draft? You think I'm going to be out here pony show for y'all? Nah, I'm not finna do it. Right?

But dudes that's established already, you looking to, so you're going to sign for a certain amount of money. Yeah. You tell me I'm making 40, 50, possibly 60 million a year, and I work hard already.

That's what's got me. That's what got me to 60, yeah. But you want to put this on top of my, like, ah. What are we proving? What am I proving by doing this? For you, am I proving that your system works? The reason that you came to get me, I've been doing it this way for this long,

and I've been the successful first team all NBA, whatever it's been for this... No cookies on the plane. Chocolate chip cookies removed from the plane. See, that ain't going to... That sounds like a boot camp. It sounds like a plantation. Every day.

Sounds like a, hey, hey, hey, put them greens down. It's okay. It's macaroni day. Yeah, like that body... Listen, man. That body fat and conditioning shit, bro. When I heard Antoine talk about that shit when he was in Minnesota, he was like, he was a Miami. He was like my music Miami boy

You know how hard it was for me not to eat this shit. That's all That's crazy You got you making Okay, we want to use a they expect you to at least to eat a certain way and do certain things and build a certain Way, but I'm here to tell you people There's only select few that fits that fucking stereotype of a real goddamn athlete. Athletes eat like shit.

All the time. We burn it off, yeah. I'm about to burn that off tomorrow. I'm about to eat like shit. Four miles a day. Man. We burning that shit off. Soon as we... It ain't... Wake up in the morning, just burn everything I ate out last night right gone

Why you have metabolism is sky-high You burn that shit. I'll walk into the gym man from your car to the lot a lot You ready to eat thing about like when they talk about nutrition and stuff, like, it's not one size fits all. And then some people are above all those rules. You can come in and eat candy, like Lamar eating candy. I had a teammate, one of our best players,

McDonald's every morning. Every morning. I used to sit there and eat nachos right before the tip off. You know what I mean? Eat nachos right before the game. Nachos. That's insane. That's crazy. That's insane. That's crazy. That's insane. That's insane. I would throw up everywhere.

Man, who's farting? Who's farting with all that cheese? All that cheese. All that cheese. Kenyan, Kenyan, Kenyan. They just do. So people that think athletes do it now, you got certain guys that do, yes. Certain guys have chefs.

Even in some guys that have chefs. Some of the food that the chef makes. It's bullshit. Trash. It's... A lot of... They're not measuring shit out. Just a pinch of salt here. No. They make it what they want to eat. Take that

shit back in there and put some flavor on that. Not finna eat that. Put some water on that goddamn shit, boy. You're not finna just that. Put some water on that goddamn shit, boy. Like, you're not, like, you're not finna just, if I'm paying you, you're gonna make this shit to my liking. Right, I want it. Right? Exactly.

People talk about Zion. Zion can have a chef all he want. But if you ain't making this food to my liking, I'm gonna complain about it. Where the butter at? And I'm gonna fire you, and I'm gonna go fire somebody else that month. I'm gonna go find somebody else to cook it

the way I fucking like it. And if y'all don't cook it the way I like it, I'm going to get it myself. I'm gonna find somebody else to cook the way I fucking like it And if y'all don't cook where I like it, I'm gonna get it myself I had to do to my college same shit. You can watch them. You can restrict them all that shit Teammate caught him in the hallway sneaking eating pizza and shit. Listen. Bro. I got him. Got him. Dad, these are, no, you can, whatever you want to do, but... It's like the movie Heavyweight. That's what I'm saying.

Oh my God, the movie. They hid all the snacks in the bed. He go, get them snacks out. Get them snacks out. But for you, for Pat to take it. That's a crazy movie. Yeah, he's still doing that. So I had a teammate in New York, they took his cookies away.

I know. I know. I know. I out. That's a crazy movie. Yeah, he's still doing that. So I had a team in New York. They took his cookies away, right? No. How many cookies did y'all eat? I wasn't there with him.

Oh, you weren't there with him. No. But so, yeah. And, you know, we horrible. So we ain't let it go. Well, you know, y'all see me now. I'm petty as shit in this environment. We we ain't let it go. Well, you know, y'all see me now. I'm petty and shit in this environment. We not going to let it go.

Hey, can I get two more? I ate them two. Hey, let me get two more cookies. While we're at the card table playing. No. Oh, horrible. Yes. Oh, no.

Two more. Looking at him. Oh, you ain't shit. Come on. Oh, he's nasty. Don't eat the cookies in front of the man. Licking his fingers and him. Aw, you ain't shit. Come on. Aw, he's a nasty one. Don't eat the cookies in front of the man. Licking his fingers and everything. Yes, you can't have them.

Yeah, he's a little... You can't have them. Why wouldn't we? Why wouldn't we pour salt in there when we make you even more pissed off than you already are, these people, for not giving you cookies? I'm just going...

Bring him a cookie. Bring him a cookie. So we put the flight attendant on break, right? Because she's giving it. Like, you ain't going to give him? Oh, they say he can't have. Who said he can't have none? She's like this grown-ass man.

I said he can't have none. You know, it's five, six people at the car table. How many cookies he had? Everybody else get cookies, and they skip over you. That's sick, bro. And then everybody like, where your cookies at? Where your cookies at? And they say,

she can't hide. She don't even want to say it. Under the voice. You know he can't hide. Look away as you're saying it, right? He can't hide. Who said it? Who said he can't hide? To Who said? You know one of us.

Who said you can't have nothing? To let everybody in the back know, somebody up here asking for cookies, him downstairs. Like I ain't got no dirt. Him downstairs. Wait till I tell you who it is. After we get off the air.

With that in mind, let's move on to Mostly Faces. You gon' love it. Presented by Underdog. Download the app, use promo code GILD, get $1,000 in bonus cash, plus a special pick-em. Ah, what a glorious day in Swaggy's Arena. Sun was shining. I ain't laughed this long. I ain't laughed this long.

It's a lot of laughter. It's just cold outside. It felt like a championship-level episode. Different. Different. Higher level. I've never experienced but from that experience of being around a person who has experience. You feel it. You feel the energy. Nick's rubbing off on you. Different. Higher level. I've never experienced, but from that experience of being around a person who has experience.

You feel it. You feel the energy. Nick's rubbing off on you. Yeah. Shoot me a joke. Let me see. First question from Underdog User Whispers1000. What's the dumbest thing you ever bought and what's the most expensive thing you bought for someone? Dumbest thing you ever bought and most expensive thing you ever bought for someone. Dumbest thing? A wedding ring. Oh, shit. Tell me about it. The number thing you ever bought most expensive thing you ever bought for someone Wedding ring

Both categories took them over the bag Yeah, I got it that depreciated what was the second I did I just if it both what was the second question most expensive and dumbest. Yeah Yeah, basically Yeah I never spent a thousand dollars on the woman before Let's get off there $1,000 for the ring. Yeah, you want to answer this question. $1,000? $1,000. For the ring? Yeah, you see, I ain't married.

That's what it was worth. Did you give it to her? You got to figure it out. No, no, no. No. So, wait, so you say I'm thinking about marrying her. I'm going to just buy this. And then I found out what I found out,

and then I went and gave it to a stripper. I just didn't want to do it. You didn't want to do it. Yeah Yeah, I got I got bamboozled Yeah But you kind of a thousand dollars. I would have been mad at you Yeah, but that's what you get cuz you was doing this Yeah, I was gonna to upgrade after the. What?

After the? Oh, that was a. Yeah. That was a test run. Yes, it's always a test. That's not how you should live your life. It is not. But that's why I'm not married, because I lived my life

a certain way. And I passed. She didn't. Mm. And I got my $1,000. Oh, it was your test. I felt appreciated. Like, oh, I love this ring.

Yeah. But he had the ring. He had the real ring, baby. If she really, really loved you, she would have accepted any ring. Accept anything. I feel appreciated Excepted anything so I agree with that. Let's say you're not gonna that question Canyon Yeah, cuz people be watching my pockets. I don't know I'm seeing you ever bought most expensive thing you bought for someone for someone For someone... Um... The dumbest thing... Probably dumbass cars or something.

Yeah, I'm too sure. Yeah, that... Expensive car? Really expensive car. And real quick, Lexi, what's your thought on getting a test ring? A pregame warm-up ring, if you will, that will lead to the actual ring if you play your cards right and get your mind right? Oh, yeah, you got to test the behavior.

You got to test the entitlement, all of the things. But is the engagement real? Is the engagement real? You got the ring. This is league, McKenzie. Or this is college, McKenzieenzie? Or this is College McKenzie? No, this is Lee. See, I think I get where he's going with it.

I do, but I'm like, I don't know if we're here with it, though. But let me, so, tell me if I'm wrong. It doesn't matter how much it costs. It's the thought and the action. Right. I want to spend the rest of my life with you. Right. So if that's not enough,

whatever, like, you can't just... I'm just saying, listen, bro. I see what... How did the ring look, though? It don't matter. Because you can get

a really pretty looking ring and it's fake. It does not matter. But who else? Is somebody else going to ask you a question? It shouldn't matter. I'm asking you a question.

It should not matter. If someone is... If a man going to ask you a question? It shouldn't matter. I'm asking you a question. It shouldn't matter. It shouldn't? It should not matter. If someone is, if a man is asking you to spend the rest of his life with you, it should not matter. Only the love should matter. That's the one you really love. So, say the ring is accepted, everything goes smoothly, you're automatically, even if she's

so happy with the ring, you still going to get her a better one? Yes, absolutely. The better one is always in the plan. But if you look at that motherfucking, you'd be like, mm. Oh my God. Like you get a better one? Yes, absolutely. The better one is always in the plan. But if you look at that motherfucking, you'd be like, mm. Like, you turn your nose up or you, mm. If any woman do that, that's crazy. You do some shit like that, then that's, so that's the reaction you probably get.

So a lot of short people do that then. What? Well, you know, me being on the short bus. Me being on the short bus, you gotta come up with these good, these good, these good ideas so that you can test, you can test these motherfuckers. So I get it, right? So I understand, so yeah.

You got to test me. I didn't want to do the fake shit because it was real. I was being real. I wanted to know how real she was being. What does the ring have to do with real love?

I know, like. So that's what the thought should be. So I bought one of my somebody's house. If you feel that you got to do this, why do you love it? But it wasn't really expensive house,

but it was like... Ooh. You feel you got to get it. Ooh. Okay, if you ever want to buy somebody else a house, I'm always in the market. Well, if you can find one at the time, it was a house of like $120,000.

Ooh, okay. So if you can find one for that... A little below my curve, but... If you can find you a livable situation for 120. Come holler at me. On that note, it's getting a little too turnt up here in Swaggys. We're in the swag. We appreciate you taking over the arena.

Come back soon, Swagg. Come back soon, Swagg. Let's hope you get swag in the arena. John, appreciate you. Lexi, appreciate you. Lexi's mom, we appreciate you pulling up, being a good sport, hanging out here. She's going to check some of y'all after the show, not me, because we already bonded.

And we appreciate you as well. Everybody in the chat, thank you for pulling up to this show. Some of y'all complained that Gil wasn't here, but as you know, we're going to turn up regardless, win, lose, or draw. It took a personal day. It took a personal day. You know, he trade rumors, all those things going on.

He was turnt up in the group chat this morning, waking me from my slumber. That vein was just popped out. See, if you're not doing none of this, I was like, hey, Nick, the blood pressure was...

Make sure you come on set today. We're going to jump him. We're going to jump him. He hit me. He did hit me. He did hit me. We're going to jump him today. This has been Swaggies Arena

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