Gil's Arena - Victor Wembanyama's MASTERPIECE Dazzles Gil's Arena

Episode Date: May 20, 2026

Victor Wembanyama's MASTERPIECE Dazzles Gil's Arena as the Gil's Arena Crew react to an electric Game One of the Western Conference Finals as Victor Wembanyama put on an NBA Playoff performance for the ages to steal Game One from the OKC Thunder and break down what statement the Alien made on Shai Gilgeous Alexander's MVP Night. They also break down the perfomance from Dylan Harper as the young guard for the San Antonio Spurs played his best game in the Double OT Thriller and discuss if the OKC Thunder should be concerned by Shai's lackluster Game 1 or if the back to back MVP was simply shaking the rust off after a long break. Next, they highlight Shai's historic MVP win, sparking debates on if the Canadian Superstar is the best player in the world right now and a top 3 point guard in NBA History before giving their take on Shams breaking the SGA MVP news nearly 12 hours before the official announcement. Finally, they react to the viral clip of Anthony Edwards shaking hands with the San Antonio Spurs with 8 minutes left in their Game 6 blowout and debate if the Timberwolves superstar was overstepping with this immature action before breaking down the Cleveland Cavaliers Game 7 win over the Detroit Pistons where Donovan Mitchell proved he's a #1 option by carrying James Harden and the Cavs to an improbable Western Conference Finals against the Knicks. PLEASE give us a LIKE & SUBSCRIBE if you enjoy the show!! Today's Gil's Arena Crew : Josiah Johnson, Kenyon Martin, Brandon Jennings, Skip Bayless & Rashad McCants Gil's Arena premieres every Tuesday, Wednesday & Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. Sign up for Underdog HERE with promo code GIL and play $5 to get $50 in bonus funds or bonus entries ⁠https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gi...⁠ If prescribed, new sexual health patients get $15 off their first order of Sparks on a recurring plan. Connect with a provider at ⁠https://ro.co/ARENA⁠ to find out if prescription Ro Sparks are right for you. SUBSCRIBE: ⁠   / @thearena0  ⁠ Read Rashad's Blog - ⁠https://rawrashad.com/?blog=y⁠ Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos! ⁠  / discord  ⁠ Must be 18+ (19+ in AL, NE; 19+ in CO for some games; 21+ in AZ & MA) and present in a state where Underdog Fantasy operates. Terms apply. Concerned with your play? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit www.ncpgambling.org; NY: Call the 24/7 HOPEline at 1-877-8-HOPENY or Text HOPENY (467369) 2 Min Countdown ⁠0:00:00⁠ Show Start ⁠0:01:54⁠ Wemby's Game 1 Masterpiece ⁠0:04:24⁠ Shai Struggles In Game 1 ⁠0:54:16⁠ SGA Wins Back To Back MVPs ⁠1:12:44⁠ Mr. B Calls Shai A Top 3 PG ⁠1:29:33⁠ Cavs Win Game 7 ⁠1:48:50⁠ Game 1 Preview ⁠2:10:51 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Just beat it. That's it. We got a lot to discuss here's what's cracking in Gil's arena today. Wimby delivered a historic performance to help the Spurr steal home court on a defending champs. What statement did San Antonio make in game one of the Western Conference final? finals. SGA won his second straight MVP, but is he the best player in the league right now? And the Cavs stunned the pistons with a blowout win in game seven, but does Cleveland have enough to reach their first finals since 2018? Nick's waiting in the wings, we will discuss, but before we get into all that, as always, the show is brought to you by Underdog.

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Just the third time this century that 260 win teams have met in the conference finals. Spurs boasted a 4-and-1 record against the Thunder in the regular season, including a semifinal win in the NBA Cup. while the Thunder entered this matchup with nine straight playoff wins, sweeping the first two rounds of this postseason. OKC got some good news before the game with the return of Jalen Williams, who was back on the court for the first time since April 22nd, as he recovered from a hamstring strain.

Meanwhile, San Antonio without Deerrin Fox for this one, as he was a late scratch with ankle sorenness. Spurs rolled out the youngest starting lineup in NBA history for the conference finals, and the youths held on to give the defending champs their first loss of the team. this postseason spoiling SGA's MVP trophy presentation and what proved to be one of the best games in NBA playoff history. Let's take a look at the highlights of which there were plenty. Spurs got to work early opening the game on a 10-3 run, but the Thunder shook off the rust

from their week-long break, evening things up at 27 after the first frame. When we put up a double-double in the first half of 14 points and 10 boards, once again dominant on both sides of the ball. Spurs outscored the Thunder 2417 in the second quarter. Alex Caruso, big off the bench in the first half for OKC, dropping 16 points while going four for seven from three in that first half. SGA struggled to find his offensive rhythm, held it just four points on one of five shooting in the first half as the Spurs took a seven point lead into the break. It held OKC to 36% from the field, 27% from three in those first two quarters. Thunder started a click in the third, though, briefly taking a lead, but the Spurs went back up.

seven after the third frame. Wimby delivered the best playoff game of his young career, putting up a game high, 41 points and 49 minutes of action, 14 to 25 from the field, 12 for 13 from the line. Alien also had 24 boards, including nine on the offensive end. Wimby, the youngest player in NBA history with a 40-20 game. Dillon Harper did work too in his first career playoff start filling in for Deereon Fox, 24, 11 rebound, six assists, seven steals, second rookie with 2010, 5, and 5 in a playoff. game joining Magic Johnson, only rookie with seven steals in the conference finals game.

Define Castle 1711 and a Spurs playoff record 11 steals. Thunder, meanwhile, only had three players scoring double figures. S.J. 24, five steals. This one went down to the wire, ladies and gentlemen, into regulation, Chet Block, Wimmy to send it to OT. Started a little slow in the overtime period until Saffin Castle dunked on SGA to get things rolling. SGA returned the favor later in the overtime period. And the Spurs down three, 26 seconds remaining Wimby with the Steph Curry-esque logo three-pointer.

To send it to double O.T. In the double overtime period, Wimby, nine points for the Spurs, including some impressive dunks. As we see here, caught Chet Holmgren slipping like a banana pill with the AN1, put the Spurs up for in this game. Santa Turner handed OKC, their first lost this postseason. After the game, Wimby had this reaction to the game one thriller in his historic performance. Mitch was saying that it's a pretty natural response for a competitor to see another competitor get something that he wants, whether it's the MVP trophy or whatever it might be. I'm just curious if that was in your mind at all, knowing that

Shea had got that award and you were in the top three for it and you know did any part of tonight feel personal? Some of your facial expressions kind of look like you were really, really going for it. Yeah, for sure. Everything you just said, it feels like I still got a lot to learn and I want to get that trophy, you know, many times in my career. If your performance tonight had a message behind it, what would that message be? The message would be that we, you know, that we. We as a team are ready to go in any environment, in any place against anybody, and even though we still got a lot to learn, our effort should be over anybody else's, and tonight we were

relentless. Spurs held the thunder 41% from the field, 38% from 3. I scored them 52-38 points in the paint. Shia we see Wend be up there. SGA's MVP trophy presentation night before game one of the first. the Western Commerce Finals proceeded to put belt to Ash and the Thunder's ass to help the Spurs get that win, take a one-0 series lead still home court. What were your biggest takeaways from the Spurs?

Double overtime, win over the Thunder in OKC to take game one. Well, I want to be starting something right now because from the beginning of the season I've been harping on the San Antonio Spurs being ready for these moments. There's a lot of people in the public media, private media, podcast media that has denied this particular prediction and where we are right now. And I think they all should be held accountable. Everybody that's doubted these moments from first round exits to second round exits to they're too young to be in this position and they can't handle the OKC thunder. They're going to be too tired when they get there, particularly the alien, the half man. Half amazing half player full throttle Victor wamba wamba wamba we we French kiss is on French bitches

We do this We talk about being prepared for the moment There's one defining moment of that whole series that I would say or this particular game That I would say changed everything which was Victor Wimbianna diving on the loose ball and Which the ball went out on SGA's foot I believe Chad's foot, I believe. And that changed the dynamic of the game when it comes from effort, competitiveness. I really want this.

He exhibited a lot of Kobe Bryant, Mama mentality, energy, the whole game. When you get to see somebody get an award right in front of your face based on media biased. And I think that Victor Williamiana did exactly what he's supposed to do, come out there and show the world who I really am. and what I really bring to this team. What I really bring to this league. 41 and 24 is the first time any debuted player scored that many and rebounded that many since Will Chamberlain. And when you got a guy out there doing that kind of stuff

and then you got Dylan Harper stepping up the way he stepped up, 24, 11, 7, and 6. Now, even though Stefan Castle had 11 turnovers, he wasn't primed and prepped for that position because DeAnne Fox was out. But guess what we still did? We persevered completely. So everybody else just got to beat it

because it ain't working no more. Everybody wants to say what the spurs aren't and what Wimby don't do and how it don't work, but it worked last night. But guess what? It's just one game because if we don't win, I'm not here in this outfit. Can you feel it?

I can feel it. Can you feel it? Can you feel it? Not yet, not yet, not yet. Yeah, yeah. We're moonwalking on motherfucker right now. We're going to ask you if you had a moonwalk plan for a day. I do, I do, but I'm going to wait. I'm going to wait. It's the first game.

It's the first game. We ain't tripping. We know a lot of people can't say a lot of things right now. Nobody wants to be accountable for their words, but it's game one. We went in there and we stole one. We got to go back. Be prepared for the next game. We did what we're supposed to do.

Game plan, let Caruso shoot them in. Let them shoot them out. SGA did not look like the MVP last night. Like we said, only one game, but Kane, let's shift over to you. Spurs. It looked like they were in control for most of that game. Thunder had some opportunities to take control, but Wimby hitting that big logo three to send it to that second overtime.

Like I said, nine points in that second overtime to help lift the merger. What were your biggest takeaways from that game? Biggest takeaways was that the spurs are, like Wembe said, they're ready for the moment. They're young. They are inexperienced. as far as post-season play. But like you said, their effort makes up for that. When you play hard all the time,

you give yourself a chance on the road. They do that. And his performance, dominant. Shaquille O'Neill-esque, come out and dominate and pose your will on the game, do whatever it takes to win, and Wimby did that.

Yeah, I was one of the people that questioned whether he can play big minutes, right? Whether his endurance would allow that from him only averaging 28, 29 minutes during the regular season. He proved it in the first round. Again, once again. And he's doing it playing, what, 47, 48 minutes last night?

It's huge for him and his growth moving forward. But now, San Antonio is forced to be reckoned with. De' Aaron Fox, brother, another left-hand boy going to get your job already got his job so you sitting out of playoff games I don't think is the best but hey that's your prerogative young man

but Dylan Harper is doing doing his one-two out there and I like him Chet put your big boy pants on dog you should be embarrassed that the game plan is to have Lou Dort and Alice Caruso, Guard, and Wembe.

You're the only person out there that can reach the ball. They throw it by the rim or high as they are throwing it to him. You're the only person out there that has a chance. Got to grow up for game two, Chet, because this man coming for your scalp. And having me hold they get game two on y'all floor. Scary hours in San Antonio, because they want it. And they play well on that floor. So, yeah, and you can't have just three guys.

scoring into double figures if you okay C. Alice Caruso played great. You can't rely on that every day. The rest of them dudes, they forced to make shots and they didn't. But, yeah, it was a great overall basketball game for postseason play. Yeah, I enjoyed every minute of it.

I enjoyed the competition of it. And there was one particular play that stands out. I think cost OKC the game. It was a two-on-one break And Shay decided not to pass the ball to Alice Caruso, I believe, was running with him. Looked for the foul and tricked it off, didn't get the foul nor the layup. San Antonio came right down and scored. So that play right there, I think, was, if they were to score at them two,

they would have won up like four, I think, four or six, whatever it was. Very selfish moment. And Reggie Miller called him out during the game when he did it. So I'm glad Reggie said it. And I'm thinking Reggie as I'm watching the game because it was very selfish. moment, a very about me, super, like watch me moment. And I think it costs the team the game. But, yeah, the Spurs are there.

They're ready. Like I said, I've been the one who's like, no, Wimby's great, defensive and all the thing, but the things he did late game, some of the moves he made, decisive moves when he got the ball around the basket, showed me what he's about, man. The dunks, the flexing and different things that he did. I was thoroughly impressed, man, with his effort with the Spurs effort. And they're playing with house money in game too, man. So good luck, O KC.

Spurs defense held Thunderstarters like 35% from the field. Cross the board. Chet, like you mentioned, eight points, eight rebounds. Unacceptable. Unacceptable. Both sides to the ball. You know, at Garden, Wimbin, you only having seven points is unacceptable. Yeah, it's just what it is, like, at this point.

One of them got a Hardinstein, Orr's. Chet got to grow up before tomorrow. Hardinstein, 12 minutes in the game. Yeah, you got to grow up. They ain't going to stop him, but you better, hey, you're the tallest one out there. That's all.

You're the tallest one out there. What ain't throwing the ball at? You're the only one that can, they got a chance of reaching it. So, good luck. Annie, are you okay? Are you okay, Annie? CPR time?

CPR. Skip, are you okay? Are you okay, Skippy? I don't know what Mr. B has to say. We're going to shift over to this side of the couch. Before I unleash on the doctor. Shift on this side of the couch first. Mr. B watching that game.

Spurs, youngest team, youngest starting lineup. Yeah. Playoff history. Conference finals, game one, hostile territory. Defending champion Oklahoma City Thunder, SGA, getting his second straight MVP trophy. We're your biggest takeaway from the Spurs getting in that double overtime win? First off, I mean, Wimby's approach. I mean, if anything, it reminds me of when

Hakeem Olajuwon went into San Antonio when David Robinson was MVP, and he showed up in that series, that whole series looked different. You know, last night, you know, they were young. They were out without Darren Fox, but Harper showed up. Shout out, what's his name, Bryant? Carter, Brian for his 13 minutes. It doesn't look like on the score sheet, but he was 10 plus. And the way he was defending, the SGA was amazing. I think the Lakers, they set the blueprint for how they were playing against SGA. And Spurs came over and they just did it to a T.

They had better guards for sure. But, you know, it was from JJ Reddick to me. That's how I feel like, you know, SGA is getting exposed a little bit. Honestly, both teams shot poorly. I mean, if we really think about it. They only shot, both teams only shot 47% and 37% from the three. Chet didn't really show up at all. If Caruso's going to be the guy, you know, scoring 30 points a night,

I can see the spurs running away with this, especially if nobody else is going to step up. Other than that, man, it's just, you know, they kind of got exposed. And I feel like Wembe has a lot of vision, vision from watching SGA win MVP. And I think this is going to be on some Akeem Olazwan type shit. Both teams shot poorly from the field, Spurs, 27 or 29 from the free throw line in that game, 93%. I don't only got to the line 19 times, but.

Defending what I filed, man. Spurs, Thunder, I see you with the Thunder Cap the Day. Yeah, I'm probably not objective. I spent the first 18 years of my life in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. And I do love this version of the Thunder as opposed to. to the first version with K.D. and Westbrook and Harden, unlovable, really unlikable. But it is my turn now. It's my turn! Thank you.

So I tweeted, just before Tipoff last night, to your point, that this was a great spot for Victor Wimbonyama. because he had to or he got to watch SGA get presented a trophy that he deeply, badly thought that he deserved. And that's what happened last night. He said, watch this, Mr. SGA. He doesn't like Chet either because he and Chet have been rivals since they were like eight years of age. And so it was his moment to be not only inspired just to play possessed. and I given this, he was all universe, as you guys all point out, because that was by far the most wire-to-wire fire I've seen that young man play with,

where usually he's got a few stretches of the game where he fades, he gets a little tired, whatever. He was on fire from start to finish of that game. He played the most physical basketball I have ever seen him play. And I did take him to task for game one losing at home to the Timberwolves when he went 0 of 8 from 3 and 7 of 25 from the floor and just drifted and drifted outside and didn't command the paint in the way he commanded it last night because he took over the paint. And as Josiah pointed out, the points in the paint were just 52 to 38. That's the story. and the boards, 61 to 40 San Antonio, the Thunder got bullied in their backyard. I also pointed out in that tweet just before Tipoff

that Oklahoma City has a pattern now that we've seen in the playoffs. We saw it twice last year where they have a week off and they come out just flat and lifeless and out of sink and rusty, whatever you want to call it. They can't get in gear for game one. last year when Joker came to call in Oklahoma City conference semifinals. Game one at home, they lost to Joker, and they fell behind in that series two games to one, and they won it in seven.

What happened in the NBA finals last year? Game one at home, they lost to Halliburton and company, and they fell behind two games to one in that series and came back and won it in seven. The Thunder will come back and win this series in seven games, because death's just a lot of the game. the way they are, and I love it that you're gloating today, and you deserve to gloat for one day, but it is just one game, because I need for the thunder to hear for 48 hours how they got punked in their building. They need to hear for 48 hours how they have no answer for the alien. They need to hear for 48 hours that Wimbun Yama posed on them at the end of the game. You see him pose, look at the crowd, and just take a moment, you know, take his shot in the spotlight.

I did this. Yep, you did for one game. And you made the shot of shots. I immediately tweeted. I said, I've never seen anything like that. He pulls up on kind of a semi-break and shoots a 30-footer to tie the game. Are you kidding me? It's the same guy who shot 35% during the regular season from three.

which ranked 112th in the NBA. So I can live with that. I'll live with it in game two. If it comes to game two and he takes a 30-foot-3 to tie the game at the end of regulation, I'll live with it. And they will live with it in game three and four and five and six and seven. Because he ain't going to make that very often, but he made that one. And I give it to you that he made that one.

And that was his night of nights in SGA. I'll give SGA and SGA. for that game because by his standards, by his standards, back-to-back MVPs, you flunk, buddy. You sucked last night because that was the worst first half he's played in three years. He was one of five in the first half. It's just you put yourself in a hole with that team. You let them get momentum, get confidence, and you're going to have a long, hard night. And I'm glad you brought up Deeran Fox because, you know, I thought I'd hear, oh, well, I didn't

have Deerrin. No, no. They did have Deeran Fox times two. They had that kid who he is really, really, really good and really fearless. And those numbers that you read off across the board, including seven steels, remember he's six five and de Aaron's, they say six three, it doesn't look six three to me, six twoish, right? Okay. But Dylan Harper is the truth already at age 20. And you had two big truce last night, the alien and the kid, and they took the game over, and they should be very proud of what they did for one game, one night, one night only. Yet, yet, yet, here's my takeaway. Despite all that, despite getting bullied, I just can't, I couldn't go to sleep because the Oklahoma City Thunder had four shots to win the game.

Despite all that, despite the alien, and you got it, you got me on that. He was, I mean, 41 and 24, that's ridiculous. Despite it, as unstoppable as he was, as much as Chet played weak and small, to your point, I mean, it's just, it's embarrassing. You know, it's just like, come on, man, four shots to win the game. You brought up the first one. So, it's 59 seconds left in regulation. And SGA did one good thing last night.

He stole the ball, mostly from Steph Castle, who had 11 turnovers. But SGA had his fifth steel with 59 seconds left. That's pretty good. And it's a two-on-one breakaway on Castle, who's backpedaling. Okay, so this is the classic SGA free throw merchant moment. This is where you and won you, and they go up through. It's a tie game at that point. So this is going to be up three, but the crowd is going to go berserk.

And it's going to be hard for San Antonio to win the game if he converts, especially a three-point play. But you've got to convert a two-point play on a two-on-one, right? And Caruso, the bald mamba, who's just out of his mind, he's having his wimby game. What'd you call him? The bald mamba. That's what he is. Yeah.

Okay, well, that's all we got from last night. We had the ball mamba. He made eight three. He was born. Right? Played his ass off, man. He played his ass off, though. It's sarcastic.

For one night, I get that. All right. He did play that. I give him that for one night. He did. For one night, he played his ass. I'm called La Balda James. Okay.

All right. Okay. But here he comes. Also respectful. And the one thing about Caruso is he ain't afraid of nobody either because he's going on Wimby in the late in the first quarter. He's just going on him. He just attacking him and he made two buckets through Wimby. He doesn't care.

So here he comes. breaking on the wing, and at least you've got a dunk, just a little no look, bounce past, just leave it on the floor, he's just going to slam it, and the crowd's going to go crazy, and maybe he and won's from the wing. But no,

I don't know what happened. He just gagged it, man. Selfish. Huh? Selfish. Okay, it is selfish. He was being himself. It was a selfish basketball. It was being himself. It was selfish basketball, but he did just win the MVP, and I think he's also thinking,

I got to do this. And plus he's he's missed shot after shot after shot. He says, I'm going to do this. A high percentage shot. Yeah. And remember, remember this. Passing it to Caruso was the high percentage shot. Okay, it was.

Because Castle stayed on him. Castle never went to Caruso. No. Castle stayed on the whole time. He stayed under. He forced that shit up trying to force the referee to blow the whistle. No, pass the ball to the open guy. Yeah.

And if Castle comes, he'll give it back to you. I'm pretty sure. If Castle rotates, he throw it back to you. Get a ball up early and get a ball up early and get it. You know the, you know the fucking drill, Brandon. There you go. Throw the shit ahead. He's ahead of you get a ball up y'all and get it back.

Make him have to make it a decision. But Kenyon, remember, he also won clutch player the year. So he's thinking, I'm the clutch player. I got to do this for my squad, right? Okay, but it- Kobe ain't passing that ball? No, Kobe's not passing. His name is Shade.

His name is Shayton-Dunk-Bin-A-Bim-B. He would. He's taking off. We're not mentioning him in the same reference to get foul. So the thing about it, right, if he would have went up, If you don't win up, let's hear me out, if you don't win up tried to make the layup, if you're going to try to make the layup instead of getting foul, that's the right play.

If you're going to do it, don't try to bait him into calling the foul and you blow the layup either way and go. So make the right play. The right play is Kobe going to go straight up and try to make the play. He ain't going to try to, and if you foul him, you're fouling. He's not going to try to bait you into a foul and not make the fucking right play. That is true. Like that's, I guarantee if Caruso running down in simultaneously, throw it up and get it back.

is what he'd think. This is the right basketball. Relax. Like, it was a fucking selfish play. It caused his team. This is what it was. Go ahead and finish. All right.

All right. Now we go to the first overtime. In my little man, I got a little left-handed player. He's pretty good. He's probably not Dylan Harper, but he's pretty good, A.J. Mitchell. And he hadn't gotten to play much until lately when J. Dubb was out. That shot. This is the shot.

Oh, my, yes. All right. So this is 131. This is 131 left in. the first overtime. And AJ Mitchell gets a breakaway, and the spurs are starting to unravel at this point because they cannot hang on to the basketball.

It's flying loose, crazy on the other end. All right. Breakaway to AJ, who played very well against the Lakers, who was averaging 20 a game, and yet he shot only four times all night, and he has not even attempted one three all night, and he decides,

on a two-on-one break, he decides to pull up and shoot the three that could, should, could have been, could have been, would have been, would have been, the dagger, because this is going to put them up four. And I'm pretty sure it's going to be over if he makes this, because the place is going to, they're going to blow the roof off the arena if the ball goes in. And it was online long. It's just one of those shots. It's, you kind of put it all on make or miss, but you got an easy deuce on that one. You got an easy-duce, man, because he can sky.

He can sky. He's a talented kid, but you pull up and you shoot your left-handed three, and you know the rest of that story. Which brings me to my man, Jay Dub, as in J. Dub, as in Jalen Williams. Last year, All-Star, second team, all defense, has barely played this year, managed to make it 33 games of the regular season, and he has been out in the playoffs for one whole month. He's been out.

And he comes back for the series. This is the NBA finals that we're watching right now. And suddenly the ball is in his hands for the two biggest shots of the game. So the biggest shot of the game from the Thunder was with 33 seconds left in this first overtime. And J. Dubb has a... He goes to his left on Vassel, and he's got a 14-foot jumper just inside the free throw line. And it's a decent look, but Vassel's on him pretty hard. and he's going to his left and he's got to shoot it back to his right,

so he's letting the defender come back in the picture a little bit and bother the shot. But this is a shot with 33 seconds left to go up five. Help me out. If he makes this, who wins the game? Because I'm pretty sure the Thunder are going to win the game if it goes up five with 33 seconds left. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe Winby makes two threes at the end of the game. It could be.

It was his night. But I would love the Thunder's chances if J. Dubb makes that shot. and he missed it. It barely ticked iron. It was left and low and just ticks the side of the iron. And even Mike Torrico said, oh, you missed it badly. Yeah, he missed it really badly. Okay.

And finally, end of first overtime, same player, J. Dub, back for the first time in a month. Wide open three. SGA drives it and kicks it out, and he gets a nice look from three. And this is to win the basketball game, despite the alien, despite everything you guys said, which is all the God's truth. It's the scary truth. But despite it all, J. Dubb has got an open three to win the basketball game, and it is way wide right. And it wasn't bothered.

It wasn't really contested. It's a nice look. But he just hasn't been playing, and you put maybe the season, if you're right, maybe you put the season in Jay Dub's hands, and he missed it. And you know the rest of the story. Wimby comes straight back down and kaboom from miles away. He makes that shot. And it took my breath away.

And maybe that's the series, but I don't think so. I'm sticking with Thunder and Seven because there are four chances to win the game despite your alien. I'm a disappointed, Skip. Yep. I'm disappointed. All that shit you just said without any accountability for the actual strategy. of the game, what went into the game from the Hooper's standpoint. There are the casual fans that watch the game and go to the box score and say,

this is what shot should have went in, this what shot shoulda did this, woulda should have could us. If was the fifth, we'd be drunk as fuck. But the one thing that I noticed from the defense strategies at the OKC, they didn't put SGA on the best player, they didn't put him on the second best player or the third best player. third best player. They hit him all night. Well, there's no critique on that. There's no critique on the fact that...

Well, they had him on Castle and he took it away from him five times. Throughout the game, he took it away from the guys in the scheme. Throughout the scheme. He also wasn't in the game. He wasn't in the game. That last three seconds of that. He wasn't in the game in the biggest moment of the game because of a defensive substitution. I saw that.

And let's talk about OKC and all of their mismatch scenarios to putting Caruso and Dord on Wemby like Kenyon. said you got to accept the challenge at some point but let's go back to your tweets your tweets for the the minnesota timber wolf game was that the spurs wouldn't make it out they made it out no i did not bet on the spurs in that series i i i had a on the grid iron no i well i wouldn't tweet against the spurs because i had big big dinners on them the wolf you said the wolves were gonna get them no i did not i did not i keep to leave and i think both you gentlemen said spurs and five if i'm not going to think he was bad he was bad

I mean, he had a bed with the league. Yeah. So fast forward to the accountability of what happened in the game is that you guys lost. Regardless of all of the shots that were made, regardless of the time frame, there are guys who showed up to compete at the highest level. And there were guys who did not. That's true. There were guys who avoided the moment. There are guys like Keen to Keenya's point of passing and trying to be.

selfish in certain moments and we know who that you have to make the right play. And those plays were not made. The plays that were made were the fact that Dylan Harper came up big defensively. Carter Bryant put SGA in the gas chamber. Go to sleep. We're not having that tonight. Guess what our strategy is. Caruso has to beat us.

We're not playing any other strategy, but Caruso, you got to beat us. Matter of fact, let's go to the J-dub, the three-point shot. Why was he open? Why did he shoot it? Because Caruso had 30 points at that point. It was the right shot, though. He had a time pay. It was the right shot.

But our strategy is go to Caruso. We're rotated to Caruso. He does not get any more open looks. He is going to be the one that's going to have to beat us. Guess what we know he ain't ready for? He ain't ready for that moment. Two-time champion. He ain't ready for that moment?

Two-time champion. Who's not? No, no. No, I'm talking about. They do. They do. He ain't ready for that moment. To his credit, though, he came back and made the next three.

He just missed out. He just thought it was a bad look. He just out when he came back to threw it to him the next time. He knocked that bitch right down. When we talk about momentum and you're at home and you put them away, put them away. Put them away. That's what you didn't do. You couldn't put them away.

Guess what we did? Guess what we did. Guess what we did? You did do that. Guess what we did. We're not worried about the hypotheticals of what could happen. We know, like you talk about all the time. What happened?

What happened? Oh, we went in there and we stole one. No, I don't think they stole it. Did we take it? They come back in game two and we're not going to talk about what I would agree. That was a take. It was a take. Yeah, they had a take.

It was a take. I agree. It had nothing to do with Wendy's moment and looking at the MVP. That was a team win. Team win. Miss Johnson need to make some corrections down the stretch with holding the ball and getting into sets. Because Harper and Castle, I don't believe they're true ball handlers when it comes of that type of pressure between K.

Wallace. He is young. He is young. He'll get better. Because when he did mess up, he did come back. But he messed up in the biggest moment where he went one-on-one. He was going one-on-one, one-on-one, and then he turned it over. It was the box out. Yeah, yeah. A box out, yeah. It was the box out. It was a box out. But on that one, when he turned over, came down. Then he laid it up. Then he turned it over. It was big.

Hit the entry pass to win before the dunk for the N-1. Come on, man. That's not. Hey, what could have won the game, though? Castle can't have it and turn on. In-bounce pass. Yeah. In-bounds past the castle for the game. Yeah. He's not Jason Kier.

You don't expect him to be Jason Kidd to make that type of pass, but you are a point guard. You are a point guard. And we can't blame it on age if you're showing up for the moment and in every other scenario except for the ones that matter. I am. Right? A 20-year-old?

Nah. You're in there. Because we're going to give him credit for 24, 11, 7, and 6. Now, we're going to criticize him for making mistakes in big moments. He's going to look at him. He's going to learn from the criticism because that's everyone gets it. Everyone gets it.

For him, it's a teaching moment. That's what I'm saying. You got to learn from the criticism. But it's not criticism. It's not teaching. You don't learn or you don't even get to teach unless you're criticizing. I get to correct you on what the mistakes you made.

So you make a mistake. So constructive criticism. Yes, yes. It's criticism at the end of the day. You got to get better. Okay, constructive criticism. Right? We're talking about sets.

We talk about understanding. and schemes, time and score. Yeah, because those constructive criticism and teaching is pretty much to go hand in hand. Go hand in hand, right? And he has to be able to accept that. Like, you can't have this. He realized you fucked up. Exactly. Same with Castle.

He didn't even want the ball in the crunch time no more. He was passing like, hey, go to Wimby. Let's go to what we know. Fucking right. I don't think the series is over, though. Oh, the series is definitely not over. It's not cool. It ain't no sweet. I don't think the series over because just as much as, I mean, Wemby's, if you look at Winby's shot, he only shot two threes.

And we've been telling that he needs to play in the paint. So if he can keep doing that, then it could. He started more. I don't think, but I don't think Chad has a game like that. He's catching the ball at the free throw line. Like all those threes,

all that, that's why I felt like he, they can't guard him around the best. He had a rhythm. We're not blaming it on. Yeah, they can't start them around the basket. So he, he realized that now.

Can we look at that? Can we look at around the best? No, not at all. No. No. No. Hey, hold up, hold up real quick. Hold up real quick.

Because when you talk about the Russ, you talk about, oh, we had a week off this. The first quarter. Phoenix. First quarter is that. Phoenix. First quarter of that. Before they played Phoenix, they had time off. Yeah, the first five.

Sweep. Before they played the fucking Lakers, guess what? They had time off. Game one, game two. They came in. They did their job. And with all that said, right now. Still had a chance to win.

And guess who did play bad? Guess who still played bad? Our team still played bad. We played bad. bad at your house. We're not tripping. 23 turnovers. We're not, hey,

let me give credit to Champany. Big shots. Vaseel. Big shots. All game long. Big shots when we needed them. His biggest play with the ball. Needed them.

Vaseel, the biggest contribution was that block he had at the rim late. Getting in their offensive rebound and tipping the ball out. Man, they out there scrambling. We love it. Got to go out there and scramble. Cornette, come out there and give us Cornet did not drop last night in the pick and roll.

He stood up there. He got up there. May SGA pass out of that, get it to the next guy. We're not letting him get off. It still took him two overtimes now. And okay, see, I get it still took him to overtime. It took who two overtimes? The Spurs.

I thought it took you to two overtime. Because if you were good, like you say you are, you would have got them out of there in the fourth. But that didn't happen. So we prolong the game based on what you. you should have done and what your MVP should have done. But he didn't do it and you gave our real MVP, the people's MVP. The opportunity to go in there and show you why you gave it to the wrong motherpaw.

Okay. Period. So SGA was a game worst minus 15, whether you believe in plus minus, but the MVP back to back was a game worse minus 15. You think he'll be a game worse minus 15 in game two? Because I don't think so. You don't think that you're watching that game? look like he ain't getting out of jail no time soon.

He ain't getting out of jail no time soon. Carter Bryan played 13 minutes. That was the worst 13 minutes we ever seen as the A go through. Okay, we'll see. And listen, they're not giving them the fouls. Guess who else they're not giving fouls to? Victor Wimbagnana. Pushing, pulling, scratching the same.

Not even worse than the rules here. You mean the free throw merchant Wimbunyama, that guy? Yeah, yeah. The guy that's getting clawed up. They have to give him. Imagine if he started flopping. He's French, you gotta get tough. Yeah.

Got to get tough, don't he? Do you see him complaining to the refs? The one time he did this all year was when he got it right. Hey, coach, come on, that's us. Okay, so I made great adjustments though. I mean, SG, I mean, they've always been, I mean, they've always been, but they've always been it, even last year, like he said. Last year, against, like, no, but the pacers.

See, first, first game, Western Conference, they come out, they lose. The finals, they always They always get hurt. What game did Hollenberg get hurt? That's why it's kind of like, what game did Hollenberg get hurt? San Antonio's last game. Yeah.

Guy got hurt the last game. He took them to seven. The Pacers took them to seven. The Nuggin'n't hurt them to seven. They ain't got Victor. Either team. Jokers, he can play. Dillon, Harper, they don't got these guys.

With the Jake. Yeah, 4-1. That shit, listen, dog, their regular season, 4-1 shit for San Antonio, they holding on what you mean that shit means something when they boomed on them

come on V where are you at I forgot they back where are you at this because you and Drake made up don't mean we forgot about the boom

five and you and Drake going to caravan this year or you don't mean five and one who's in here five and one you know who's in here

step there are seven foot white guy in there man there's somebody in here very important is a ice cream It's a science, man. You're right. We think, listen, they don't think they can beat them, dog.

Listen, when you got a good team's number. I'm here to talk about basketball. That's true. I don't want to hear that shit. I want to hear that shit. But let's look at this. Iceman froze up. Boom on it.

One more time. First overtime. Come on, man. I mean, one of the biggest shots in the NBA playoff. I like the rhythm. I like everything about it. I like, I like, beautiful shot that bitch from. Guess what else that is?

Pull up. It's like, remember what that's crazy. That's the same spot with Seth shot that bitch from. Is that not a bad shot? No. Yeah, but since it was off the dribble. For Wemby who shoots 35, skip would say it, 35%. If he misses that shot, it's over, right?

It's shot with confidence. So make or miss that shot, he shot that bitch with confidence. Like I know I'm going to make it. I know I'm making it. When he pulled up, I was like, oh shit, young fella. Like, I'm watching, I'm like, oh shit. And he made, I'm like, hey, shot that bitch with confidence. Imagine I was wherever.

I was at. Do we know your word about? What kind of cartwheels I was doing in that motherfucker. Everybody like, come on man. Imagine how I'm like, man, I get to go into the arena tomorrow and talk my shit.

Nothing like it. I'm telling you. So who was with the Nets in Detroit. Detroit had home court we went in there and won the first two games on their floor. One the first one, playing with house money. We come back game two. We like,

shit. We can get these boys again, man. And because we know how we plan it. Listen, we know the track meets the shit for being back in Jersey. Yep. Got game three. Hey, you know what? Let's get them out of there. And it's the same Detroit team. They added Rashid Wiles. It's the same Detroit team. We swept them a year before they wanted. Get them out of here. You winning on the home, man, your confidence is and how you do it. Right. Close blowout. It's how you're getting it done. saying this is over. I'm not saying it's over. It can be.

I want to see how game two, how it looks. I want to see how game two looks. OK, C can win it, right? But if this looks anything like game one, this is going to be a gentleman sweep. Do you bring back D. Fox? This is going to be a gentleman sweep. If game two looks anything like game one,

OK, C can win it. Yeah, I understand. This will be a gentleman sweep. Yes and no, because D. The Fox can't guard like Harper. You keep Harper and, because they can switch between those three guards. Those three.

Put them on Caruso. Nah, because you're still going to, Caruso going to go into the pick and roll, I'll switch him off. Who is the SGA guard now? Yeah, they're going to start him. What you mean? Castle.

He had Castle. But they're not running the same sets that Spurs are running for the switch. But what I'm saying is I'm like, and we're doubling. I'm guarding Caruso, though. So it's like, I mean. Okay, but wait, who guarded Caruso last night?

Wimby. That's it. Bingo. Wimby. That's why he made eight out of 14 and three. That was not strategy. Our strategy is we're going to live and die with you shooting that shot when that's doing this. Because D Fox is not playing.

Right. So if you put, I'm, it's a detriment for us because now SGA can go one-on-one with Fox. See, the thing about them though, right? They're not going to let him put one-on-on-one. You want S-GA to go one-on-one with-Lakers, right? You want SGA to go one-on-one with Fox? No, I'm saying he will. But they, I know.

But they not go allow it. He's the- Wherever Foxy is on the floor. Or Dork. Or Dork. We're searching him. We're searching him. Dork.

Who Fox? Yeah. Or Dork. I mean, well, we're doing the same. I mean, the guys over here at the Spurs, they're doing the same thing at SGA. I saw it last time. You got to listen to what I'm saying. The scramble and the effort and energy out of the defensive side, Fox don't, he don't have the same thing that Dylan Harper has.

And he's going to pull out. He's fat. He's fat, but he don't have the defensive prowess. The prowess that you have that he got from his daddy. Shout out to Ron Harper. I agree. One of the greatest to ever do it. That mentality of getting out of that scramble, ball go over your head, turn, sprint to the corner, close out the ball, off the ball, off the ball.

You know where it's going He stole that corner pass He did Multiple times Trying to throw it back Multiple times He stole that shit three times Multiple times

Multiple times I'm like yo So it hurts So it hurts them bringing them back Not bringing them back But just injecting him Where Harper can actually Be the difference

You're gonna start You'll start But you start You start if he's gonna play In game two you start him You got And then you just go by You got Johnson and Doug

Who playing well You got Dylan Harper Johnson coming off the bench dog Yeah You're not used You're not used I know

I know I'm saying it And coming off the bench is a great thing. And I'm not going to say the same thing if J. William Williams with A.J. Mitchell, but you got A.J. Mitchell playing at a high level all playing up at this point. It's match up in momentum. I don't mind bringing Fox off the bench.

He's going to start. I don't mind it. But if you do bring Fox into the starting role, you play Harper like Janobly. He's starting. You play him like Janobly. He said he's a superstar. No, he is. But he just got hurt.

Darren Fox is a super. He just got hurt. He just got hurt. He said Darren Fox is a super. So, yeah, I still believe that. And if you think about the 20 points that they were. without 20 points they were without A fuck a day. Bunkle soreness.

M motherfucker don't play a playoff game and play in the next one, though. 60 minutes before the game. That shit irks my ass, man. I ain't going to even lie to you, dog. You don't plan to play in the playoff game and you turn around and playing the next one. Like we said about Duncan Robbins, what do you do? You don't plan it's to come out and you're playing the next talking about your back. I don't need you, though. We keep your 12. We need you.

We need all we can get. We won't take this. We don't want to leave nothing on the table. He's going to play, but I'm just like... Because he can give us 12. He can give us 15. Fucking minutes. He can give us some shit. But at the end of the day with Dylan Harper display was magnificent to me, especially on defensive. Like to get those deals to be able to rebound the ball, 11 boards. Come on, man.

I think offensively too, man, just staying aggressive. Being that young is still like I messed up but still coming down making the play, making the right. That says a lot. That says that. That says that. Shout out to Hollywood. Second picking the draft for a reason. For sure.

Like, let's not, second picking a draft for absolute reason. He's displaying it right now. Let me ask you something, Skip. I like him. The SGA step up to that challenge? Dylan Harper, we talk about matchups, not the one in the guard. Hold on. We're just talking about matchups.

That wasn't this matchup. This wasn't this matchup. If you go look at it at the point guard position. I'm not talking about who guarding. I'm not guarding you. I'm just talking about when you have to match the one across from you. Point guard, point guard. All right.

All of these guys. Castle was the point. Dillon was the point. Dillon was the point. No, Castle was the point. He started talking about. about from across from you. He started as the point guard.

He started as the point guard. Who was guarding who? They doubling. Remember, just like we was just saying about the last series. If you're doubling, you can't say that Marcus Smart is guarding him.

Okay, so I got... Because we're doubling. But we're saying, yo, matchup, the matchup, SGA has to answer that matchup. How? I got two people guarding me

on one end and then I got to come down and do all this guy. Because the Rousseau had 30. He came in off the bench. Yes, because two people are guarding me. No, that's a bitch guy. No, come on, you can't do that. You can't do that.

Two people are guarding me, so this is not the same. This is not, you can't say he didn't own up to that match. You got to two fucking people guard him. I can say. Come on, man, no, it's not the same. This is not the same. You trained for making it out of double teams. It ain't like you're not training to play out of double team.

Who trains to get into double teams? Everybody who's great trains to get out of double teams. I got two coming at me. Get around. Keep the dribble alive. I got an answer. I got an answer to step up. up. Fourth quarter

stats. Fourth quarter regulation stats. The two-time MVP had 12 points in the fourth quarter. He had three assists in the fourth quarter. He had three steals in the fourth quarter and he did blow by Castle for the layup

that did send it to overtime. He did that. So I gave him an F for the game overall, but he did do that in the fourth quarter. I would say that would qualify as stepping up. The blow by, you know why the blowby happened? Because we're not giving up a three.

We're not giving up the three. In the huddle, don't get up the three. Hey, if you got to let them score, let them score it, we got the ball with three seconds to go on the other end. We're good on our side when we talk about strategy. But when you talk about defensive

intensity and you talk about, hey, listen. 24 and 12, I take it. You're passing it because what? You don't want to pass that. 24 and 12 assists or not? You're wanting to. Yes, but I have to because the basketball says, the game of basketball says, basketball. No, because

we're making. No, the game of basketball says, we're making you. S.J. always says I read what the defense gets. No. So the defense is doing what you, he talks about it all the time. It's just what people say with Luca. Luca's not passing the ball to make people better. He's passing it because he don't got a shot. So

let's get into it really quick. So SGA wasn't as aggressive. Asgrey, Scha wasn't as aggressive offensively in the Thunder's first three game against the Lakers. He dealt with double teams, average is 21 points in the first three games. That series had 35 in the series clinch and win. Didn't necessarily have to do it offensive against that squad because they were whipping that ass. But Spurs' defense also gave him problems in this one.

24 points with 7 to 23 shooting in 51 minutes of action. Skip, like we talked about earlier, only made one field going in the first half. It was the first time since October 2023, spanned of 270 games that he made less than two field goals before halftime. So back-to-back MVP had this to say about. game one. Quality opponent. We knew it was going to be a dog fight. We just got to be better. Me in particular, I have to play better, especially against a team of this caliber. Yeah, nothing more than that. Obviously, they pose a huge challenge defensively. Like, what's your

process of feeling out a game like that and how they're playing you? Yeah, I just try to take what the defense gives me. I think earlier they were, like, heavier in the gaps. And I had a lot of sprays for open shooters more so. And I think they loosened up as the game went on. And I was able to find my cracks. Yeah, it's got to be better when I get those cracks, I think. Gotta be better when you get those cracks. You guys concerned at all with SGA performance game one

as Western Conference Finals looking at this spurs. I am. I am. I am a little bit. I am. Because now that the record is 5 and 1 and they've been booming on y'all all year. And you keep saying that you guys need to make adjustments.

I mean, it's 5 and 1. So I don't know. it looks like they have y'all number from that standpoint so hopefully they can figure it out but right now they're like they've been booming on y'all all year and they definitely feel it I mean like I said Wimby's performance alone just let you know what time it was you keep using that word I'm not worried you keep you saying boom you better stop that shit I'm not worried about this performance because they're going to defend it they defend them the way they're going to defend him right it's on him to pick a guy who he's going to attack but with the spur

do with and with the Lakers game plan the Spurs can game same game plan but they have better perimeter defenders like the Lakers right so him picking a guy so he could

pick Knaar or A.R and his foot speed and able to him to turn the corner on them guys because he's going to pick one he's going to attack him. Yep yeah this series their guards are better defensively and they move

their feet better so him turn the corner is not as attractive now. Him rely on his teammates to make shots early, which they did not. He was being a willing pass early because how they were guarding him. As the game goes on, guys get more fatigued

and he's able to turn the corner more often than not. He missed a lot of shots that I think he normally makes. A few of them around 16, 17 feet that he missed that I thought he'll make that next game probably if he get the same look. But they're not going to change how they're defending him. They're going to be aggressive with him.

They're going to put two on him when they can. They kept him off the line for the most part, which I think was huge. But yeah, I'm not worried about this before him because he took what the game gave him. He was aggressive late when they needed him. He went down swinging. When the game was on the line, the fourth court, he showed up. He had 24 and 12. Yeah, five steals. So the plus minus is not on him. I don't think, because it's how the game was being played. Negative 15 is just what it is when he's on the floor. They need him on the floor, so that plus minus for him really don't move me.

But San Antonio is going to defend him how they're going to defend him moving forward. It's on him to try to figure it out. And the guys have to make shots. When he gives it up, when they double teaming him, if you have a wide open shoot, no hesitation, but go make a play for someone else. And it's on him to find an open spot. Give it up and replace yourself. Give it up, find an open spot.

Give it up. Run a pin down. Just don't keep giving them the same look because they are good defensively and they hone an end on you. I mean to your point, okay, cool. You take what the defense in the game give you. You're playing the game, right?

But if we're dictating that game, you're playing our game. You're not doing what the game is giving you. You're doing what we give you. So for us, we want to make it tough. And what I would say to San Antonio is make them go right. Do not let SGA go left. He loves left that sets up his step back, that sets up his foul base.

Everything going right is tough. He does not like it. And when you talk about giving the ball up and getting it back based on the game, giving him whatever it needs in the moments, if we got Wemby back there and we got these three guys switching off, the only thing that the game can give is the off-court pass. That cross-court pass is you giving up on the game. I feel like that S-Gi-Gympie.

feel like that SGA didn't impose his will on the game based on trying to play the game the way that he feels like, all right, I'm just going to let the game come to me. This is not let the game come to me time anymore. This is, I have to change the way that this team has scouted me and they're playing defense on me. They have to make adjustments. Now, if the ref's not giving you your calls and you don't have the game to make that adjustment, y'all dead in the water.

And I don't think that hits a game is going to be like. Jalen Brunson can make those type of adjustments. I don't think SGA has that in his game. It's not just him, no. Chet played bad. Oh, Chet played disgusting. But Chet don't got game like that. That's one of the, those are, those are.

You see Harper locking him up? And it's not the top of two though. Who did this? As bad as he played, he still had 24 and 12. They didn't get nothing out of Chet or nothing to AJ. I bought all y'all APs. That's fine. He did.

Golf clubs, Burberry Jacket. Come on. I held up this thing. They've been down game one before. We know that. But we're talking about what it looks like moving forward. Yeah, but also people didn't step up here. So are you saying he got exposed last night or has got exposed?

He's been exposed against the spurs from the first time we played him. All right. And that will continue you predict. A hundred percent. Regardless if he has 30 or he has 40, it doesn't matter. You're putting your team at risk by trying to do your thing. Your thing. Then you should just predict a sweep right now.

No, man, because you asked me to predict the last time when the wolves was playing the spurs. You asked me, are you predicting that they're winning? I didn't have to, because look what we are. We're going to win regardless. We're going to do what we need to do to win the game, just like we just did for game one. So what was your? Yes or no. It's a we will see.

We will see. It's a we will see. No, is this your team or not? It's a we will see. Well, listen, he tells you OKC winning in seven. So that's ridiculous. He can't tell me nothing, man. He just said it.

He said, OKC is winning in seven. It ain't been right the whole time. That's why he got to ride with OKC. But he's giving a short, fire, pick. Everybody in the media pick SGA to be the MVP just based on everybody being friends with each other. You're not looking at the real metrics of the game to see who really the MVP. You ain't looking at the Spurs and looking at their talent and saying there's no way that y'all are saying this team is better than that team. No way. Are the Spurs going to the finals? Yes and

no. Yes. Okay. Okay. Yes. We will find out game two. And by the way, quick point. I've been right about the Thunder all year long. I picked them from the start because they're just better that they will prove to you they're better and you get to the edge of the cliff and you won't jump off your cliff over there because you know you don't rattle this man's cage and I you're rattling it and you're rattling

we're five and one we're five and one skip you didn't predict that did you no you didn't predict that earlier in the season that we would be five and one against the OKC Thunder the MVP to reigning champs so you all look like little boys playing in the sandbox we're in here

Then make it a sweep. Just say it's going to be a sweep. Oh, we wanted to be entertaining. We got millions of fans watching. That's not what you're saying. Yes. You rattle. How entertaining was.

How entertaining was. You run. You're rattling and you run. No. The lion's coming. No. The lion's coming. Man, where's, where's bubbles?

Can you give me? Where's bubbles? Where's bubbles? I have some of it. But you ain't talking about a little chimp. You ain't about a little lion? Yeah. We used to this.

We didn't tame these guys already. They have to. to prove that they can show up and beat us. Make it a series. All right. This are what we, we expected you all to come in a win one. What was your prediction about this series before it started? What is your- Seven?

We're going seven. Oh, you got seven. Yes. Also, you do fear- It's going to be a good series. They have to show up. Imagine if they get swept, yeah. Come on, bro.

Well, I don't need to imagine. Imagine my celebration if they get swept. They got five ones. Imagine if it's six. If we went in six, what my celebration gonna be in six or five? It's better to be seven and try to have a hope of winning than to let me celebrate because it's going to be a different type of celebration. There's somebody supposed to be sitting in your seat right now.

He's ducking. He's ducking. You don't want to argue when you're losing these bets and you're wrong about predictions and takes? He did say, Wimby, if he's playing the paint. No, he did say that they wasn't going to make it out the first round. He did say they wasn't going to make it past the wolves. Okay.

All right, and I ain't seen him since. He did say that. So, Skip, I'm just preparing you, man. You got to be willing to come back to the set after you're wrong about shit. Oh, I'm always coming back. I've been coming back for a long time. They said I was acquitted. I have a long time.

All right? See how this series plays up. Stand on business, baby, Tim Btoes. Speaking of your costume today, this is a man in the mirror time for the that two-time MVP. It's man in the mirror. Who is that man in the mirror? He's looking at it right now. He's saying, this is it, because I will give you this, game two is do or die. And they have faced it before. They faced it with Joker and they faced it with Halliburton. Game two at home, you have to win that. Then they went away and they fell behind two to one and they faced another

do or die because you don't want to go down three to one, and they never have. So this is man in the mirror. This is where you look and say, who am I? And what do I do? SGA is elite, and that's why I say seven. I ain't say four, I didn't say five. I still think that they're a great team. I still think that they have chances to hit shots and make plays and blow a game open one or two. But you already bodybagged them.

No, I didn't say who it was in here. Oh, I didn't say who it. It's a mystery body bag. I didn't say who it was in here. Are you sure it's not the seven-foot white guy? No, no, he's not yet. Not yet. He's safe.

Because if he don't come out and put him on the game, too. Hey, look, man, Chet's a non-fucking factor. We ain't never worried about Chet. No, he needs to go on that bitch, but like, listen, I am going to guard him. Okay. You're second in this. Second place in defense a player to your voting and all that shit. Show me.

That is true. I ain't saying you're going to stop him, Chet. You can't rely on the six-foot-four guy and the six-foot-five guy. That's true. Talk about it. To guard the seventh foot-four guy. Yeah. It doesn't work.

Okay. Because one thing, the old saying go, I don't know if y'all hear this or not, you can't teach or coach height. Right? Demand 7-4. Chet, you 7-2, 7-1, 7-2, long arms. He won't smoke.

What you're going to do, brother? Can I ask you a question real quick before we move on? Yes, sir. Okay, cool. Finals. They come into the huddle. They say Kenyon. We're going to put Rodney on him.

You guard. What's your response to being moved from? I got him to Kenyon. Man, man, you got him. I'm going to tell you right, man, you got me fucked up. You got him. Hey, man, no, I got him. I got him, right?

You can score 50 out this bitch, but guess what? You're going to earn all. I got six fouls. And you're going to earn all 50s. Right? Got six of them, and you're going to earn all 50. Every catch you have will be contested. Listen, you can destroy, but one thing, you've got to compete.

Got to compete. And, Chet, the offensive thing is one thing. You didn't take a shot the second quarter, whatever it is, it's unacceptable for one. That's cool. That's one thing. If you ain't offensively doing it, how about you exert that energy and all that shit on the other side of the ball? Okay. You playing off the ball, if you won't have five, six, seven, eight, nine, nine,

blocks playing off the ball, you're doing your team of disservice. There were plenty of times the block you had the end. That was a great play. I saw like seven other times where that man was around you being guarded by your teammates and you were nowhere in the picture. At the three point line somewhere. Defending somebody who you, listen, you got to take the challenge. You are Hardinstein, both of y'all, J. Dubb with William Lother Kid, all three of y'all,

whoever it is, y'all the biggest one on the team, man. y'all can not rely. I understand the game playing. Coach might have said at this. Y'all should feel embarrassed and offended that the coach will come up with their game playing and stick with it throughout the game. Giving up offensive rebounds.

He had nine of them. You got a six-foot guy right here and I'm seven-five. Had nine of them. Come on, Dachnoff, you're smarter than that. One time Williams got overback, Williams kid hadn't blocked out. Three late possessions.

Late regulation, couple in the first overtime. Chet got forced to guard him. You know, he just got stuck on him. And I thought he hung in there okay because he's seven feet tall. That's all. And I think he fouled him all three times. Cool.

And it didn't get called. I'll give you that. But he bothered shots. And he created barely misses, like barely where it just kind of ticked off the side of the rim. He was doing his job. Because that's all they got. That's, there's only one answer. And I kind of put quotes around answer to Wimby.

And that's checked. In the end, that's it. I don't know if he has in him what you're asking. Just try. Okay. That's all. I'm not listening. Yeah.

And once again, you was the second pick in the draft. They believe in you, right? You are, they paid you as you got $2.50. Yeah. They're expecting a lot out of you. You're seconding vote player of year. You dish up, all that. Cool.

Mono e mono, you got to step up to the challenge. Yes. That's all, like I said. Yes. We understand what Winby is and what he did. kid. He can have another one of those games. Yeah. You gotta try. Like I said,

Caruso, this is not him trying to guard Nicola Yocke's. Nicola is not Wimby. Can't jump like that. Ain't long like that. They can put the ball in places for Wemby that you can't bother it. Nicola has the boom boom, get to his thing. You get a good job when they had you guard Nicola. This is not that.

Not that. So we think he's not trying because of one game? Who? Chat. I'm not saying, he didn't try to guard him. That's what I'm saying. We're talking about the five games that you played. All I'm saying.

You did not compete with Winminiana. You did not show up to challenge him. He did not. And say, you're my matchup. And coach, you do not have to put Caruso on him. I got him. I got him. That ain't happened.

I watched the whole game. Alex Caruso, when he was on the floor, guarded, I mean, Guarded Winner. They switched with Jalen Williams. They were trying to get Jalen Williams on him. they, that's the one time they messed it up, they didn't switch, Castle got the dunk. That's all I'm saying. Chet is your 7-1-7-2.

Whatever, however, long arms, you're the only one. You might not get it. He might score every time on you. But I can look at the mirror and be like, shit, I fucking tried. I didn't have my 6-5 guard trying to guard him. That's all. And guess what we betting on?

Because out of school, are they throwing up this shit? They're throwing that bitch up him doing this shit, right? Every time. Throwing that bitch up. Huh. That's like, and you guys not doing that on the other end with Chet

when we got Dilling Harper on them. We got one of the smaller guys on Chet. You're not going to the paint and saying throw it to me because we still got Wemby Roman because Wembe don't have to guard you because you don't want to come down in the pain and get nasty with me.

So you just want to be on the perimeter. All right, go out there, guard him. I'm going to stay down low. And then when he come down here, I'm going to beat that shit. I'm going to get you a guy. So Jason Collins didn't have a chance of hell of guard.

and Shaquille O'Neill. Didn't have a shot in the dark at guard this man. You know what he did? Compete it. Goulding. Giles. Give you them foul.

Try to meet you early. I know once he get it, problems. But you're going to work for it. That's all I'm saying. Right? And check, it's supposed to be that.

Checking, hey, make him top dollar. At the end of the day. Making top dollars, they look at you as their shot blocker. They're rear protector. Yes. You are that against everybody else. Everybody else. You are a rim protector and a shot block against everybody else.

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All of God's creatures are embraced here at Gills Arena, can you? So SGA named the league's most valuable player for the second straight season on Sunday. Adam Silver was in the arena Monday to give him the trophy before game one of the Western Conference finals. So here's the voting for reference. SGA received 83 of the 100. First place votes with Yolk is coming in second. Unanimous defensive player of the year, Wimby, finishing third. Luca came in fourth, Cade Cunningham.

Fifth. Hold on a second, K. I'm going to listen to all. Go ahead. SGA finished a season. When you get done. Second of the league is scoring 31.1 points per game, shooting a career high 55.3% from the field.

Also average a career high 6.6 assists as well as 4.3 rebounds. Joins Michael Jeffrey Jordan as the only guards in NBA history to average 30 points while shooting 50% from the field in four straight seasons. Only guard to average 30. while shooting over 55% from the field as well. SJ 14th player in league history that went back-to-back MVP's first since Nicola Yolkitch, first guards since Steph Curry did it in 2015 and 16,

with Steph still being the only unanimous election in the history of the NBA. Can you? Whoever the motherfucker is that voted fourth place for Shea and fifth place for Nicola, you need to have your fucking credentials snatched. I'm done. That's all.

I ain't got shit else to say. He won it. But the motherfucker that whoever, the fourth place vote and the fifth place vote for Nicola, that shit is embarrassing. Embarrassing. Well, we know who we're going to be preseason number one. Your kids are still... Looking at this and how this voting, handoff, Skip, long-time member of the Square Media have shifted over

to the non-square media over here in Gills Arena, presented by Underdog Woo-Woo. What's your reaction to SJ winning his second straight most valuable player award? Duh. Duh. Yeah. Duh. I just thought he deserved it. I know we're all prisoners of last night's moment because he sure didn't look like he deserved it last night against that guy playing for the other team in his house.

But all I know is he led the NBA. in shots at the rim. And last line, I think he had three because of that guy. And as Kenyon pointed out, he missed some mid-range jumpers. He led the NBA in mid-range two-point jump shots at 58%, which is pretty extraordinary. It's pretty hard to make that many of that shot, as Rashad would know, you guys would all know. And his three-point shooting has gone up each of the last four years,

and he had a career high this year. and then I know Rashad has little to no respect for him on the defensive end, but he did finish fifth overall in defensive winshares, which is just hard to do. It just is. And so when you add all that up and the fact that the truth is, he is the thunder. They won the West pretty easily,

even though they lost all those games to San Antonio, I'll give you three of those losses, the fourth loss nobody played. but whatever, but I give you three out of four, and they happened bam, bam, bam in 12 days. And it was a tour to force over 12 days. And he looked bad in those three games. He shot three of 17 from three.

So they do have his number, but nobody, it's almost like Chet. Nobody else has his number. Nobody has Chet's number. But definitely the rest of the league does not have SGA's number. He has its. And this is just me. and maybe I'm not objective, but

but I don't think he gets enough credit. I think he's underappreciated for what he does on a nightly basis because he went, I've lost track, maybe you know the streak where it ended. It's 140th or something right there. Whatever it was, scoring 20 plus a night, it's just impossible. You guys know you wake up one day and you just don't feel like it, man.

And even though you play hard, you go out there and you just, I don't know, your biarrhythm are off and you don't have it. Well, his biarrhythms are never off because he just keeps on scoring 20 plus. And then he gets named clutch player of the year on top of all that. And if you look at his clutch stats, they're ridiculously good in every case. All the top clutch categories, number one, number one, number one. So everybody doubles him, to your point, most people try to triple him, and he still does it. Because Listen, he doesn't look like he's playing that hard because he's got that kind of fourth gear

where he just stays in fourth instead of shifting into fifth. But he's always playing at the same pace every single night. And he is the thunder. They don't, I don't, what's that? Dude, that came in second. Yeah? What about it? What did he other than points per game?

Okay. Dude shot better from the field. All around. All around. You're talking about Joker? Yeah, the center average more assist than the point guard. Okay. Talking about metrics and stats.

Metries and stats. There's no comparing the two. I know I said only had that to say, but the more you went on, the more I was like sound like bullshit to me, Skip. Yep. But the guy that came in second, how much better can he possibly? What was his team? Well, how much? Okay, that's all I need to know.

Tell me what his record with the nugget record. So you said the team record is the team. We're talking about the individual here. The most valuable player. This here is an individual war. We brought that up because four and six. Right? This is an individual.

So if a player is four and six in the finals, that's, we talk to meet their team. So I'm going to tell you once again, once again, every basketball comes. that I've had with people, I said, if you're going to bring Michael Jordan up, I'm done talking to you. If you're going to bring LeBron James up in every basketball conversation, I would not have a conversation with you. We're just talking about Cable Accomplishment. I would not, every conversation we have with people that want to bring Michael Jordan into it, I end the conversation. From this point on, anything we're talking about and it leaves back to LeBron, I would be done talking about it. What about Bill Russell?

I would be done talking about. My thing is, this is an individual award we're talking about. This is talking about individual play. Right? Yeah. Individual play and what the numbers are, more rebound, the first guy ever, ever to lead the league in rebound and assist. Yes or no? While shooting 57, 58% from the field.

Is that not impressive? Is that impressive? 50, what? 38 from 3, 89 from 87 from the line. So those individual stats are important? is what you're saying, though. Just as important as he's saying SGA stats. Yeah, that's all I'm saying.

Just as important to all them, the win shares and this and that and the field goal percentage and 120 games, this, the, the, cool. We are seeing history here. Like, history being made. The last two seasons with this man. Last year, okay, Shade,

what they did, okay, he deserved last year. I still would have gave it to Nicola last year. He didn't deserve it last year. Nicola deserved it last year. So, and this man comes back and have a better season across the board than he had last year. So did SGA. Yeah, so that, yeah, so that's, yeah. I played numbers were better across the board than last year, Nicola.

Same. So was his. So if Joker deserved it last year and his numbers are better this year, it doesn't matter what SGA does. It doesn't matter. It means that I deserved it twice. If SGA's numbers are better this year and you don't have a second best player for 49 games in the season. But you did say SGA deserved it last year.

Who, no, I wouldn't, I would have gave, no, I, my vote was Nicola last year. If I got a vote, I'm voting for Nicola for what he does and what the numbers that he, he was what, number one in, when the points, steals, steals, and every number assisting rebounds. He was top, what, three in those four major categories. And came out this year, the only thing he didn't do as well. This year is the steals. The still average 1.4 steals, almost a block of gain. And every number across the board is up. So individual accomplishments.

shouldn't be overshadowed by team achievements. You can add, but... Because that's the only reason why SGA is considered the MVP frontrunner is because his team is number one. That's the only reason. Average in 31 shooting 55% from the field? It ain't better than... It ain't better than me averaging 28 and averaging 11 assists? Huh?

No, it's not. I'm eye-carred for more points than you do. And, hey, Luca had better... Luca had better staff than SGA. And shoot better from the field than you. I'm also doing this without Jalen... Shoot better from the field. than you, average more assist than you, shoot about the same clip from a three and I'm a five

and you're a one. I didn't have my number two. You do got your chats out. That's all? You got a number two. No, I don't have my number two. I'm doing it. My numbers are better without my number two.

The wins are the wins, right? That's a team sport. If you're that good, they draft well, they free agent well, they do all those things well that helps that team success. Yes. She did his part, averaging 33, this shooting 55% from the field, 140. 40 games, straight with 20 points. All those things exist, yes.

But this man, Nicola, has simply outplayed him. That's what it is. And Winby outplayed both of them. Well, your team should be number one then. He's outplayed him. Okay, but without his... And he missed time. How much time did Nicole miss?

Like 15. 16 games. We're talking about the... We're not talking about this team mate. I know, but I'm doing it by myself. I'm doing it with myself. The guy that missed 16 games. I'm doing it by myself, though, without even another guy on here.

I missed 16 games. You do have another guy out there, Chad. Hongren. What have we said in Oklahoma City? Is Oklahoma City not the deepest team in the NBA? Yes or no? Rashad, would you agree with that? Would you say the Senate?

I say Spurs. Okay. But the consensus, besides this year, okay. The consensus is Oklahoma City is the deepest team in the National Basketball Association. Not in Star Power. And I said, did I say Star Power? Not. I said, did I say Star Power?

No. I didn't say nothing about so. So they have one superstar. They got one superstar and the rest of the guys that can fucking play. Right? They built that team at a certain way to be where they are, to be number one last year, come back, bring the same team back, Adam McCain, Jalen Williams can play 33 games.

Jay Mitchell steps up. Right? He can play 33 games and you're still number one. So what Che did, yes. Now take anything off of his plate. excellent player for what he did this year. Nicola outplayed him. I don't care.

Just simply outplayed him. Okay, but he didn't outplay him in the fourth quarter because... That's one particular moment, Skip. All right. It's the fourth quarter of the game. That moment counts in the reckless season. But I watched every one of these games. Every game, they would be in trouble in the fourth and they would say, do it.

Just here, you do it. And he did it again last night. He scores 12 in the fourth quarter. What's that? You don't think Nicola was put in the same position, Skip? Well, I just know that... I just know that Oklahoma City ran away with the West again.

Okay, that's a team thing. You keep bringing all you can you keep bringing all 15 guys into this individual award. But the superstar kept taking over when it really matters before. That's why he won clutch player in the year. So why did they go five and one

against the team that's going against them now with the real best player on the Florida? But throughout history, though, Skip, you've watched this game for a long time, right? In the fourth quarter, the last five minutes, four minutes, three minutes, two minutes of a game, who steps up? Who's supposed to, historically?

It's the guy, right? That guy. From Larry Bird, Magic Johnson, to, you name it. Everybody that's been the man on their team, Carmelo Anthony, the Allen, Iverson, the Vince Ardustle. He said he was going to stop talking with him. You mentioned all that thing. But I'm just, but every man guy,

he's got four finals MVP. Every main guy, LeBron James. Four and six. Who are the finals MVP? LeBron James, Duwain Wade. Yep. Every guy that's been the guy on their team. No, I got it.

The last three, four minutes of the game, that's what they're supposed to do. They're supposed to take the most shots and put the team on their back. You're the primary score. The ball's supposed to find you in those moments. Yes. So the point I'm making, Shea is doing his job. I'm not taking anything out. He's doing what the role calls for.

You being all NBA, you being MVP, you being first team all NBA, all these things. Clutch player, yes. That's what the team looks for you. to do. Okay. So, and the same thing with Nicola and my numbers are better. Okay, so how do you explain the first place votes? Voters fatigue.

Voters fatigue. And you know this, Skip, what do you vote for? Who'd you vote for? It's not voters fatigue. He had a better year than last year, you vote for him, of course, right? But the defensive authority of year don't get no credit for actually being the top three. So let me tell you're taking

his team from 11 to 2. And if you're talking about team accolades, you're talking about what it does for the team when he's not on the floor. Yeah. We have yours or what? Negative. Hot Bubba. Okay.

So we had your buddy on this couch, Skip last year. Your buddy, Stephen A. Right? We had him on this black couch. Stephen B, Stephen C. The season wasn't over yet. Right? They still had games to play.

15 games. About 15 games to play. He sat on his very couch and already had this MVP pickman. Not even thinking about changing it. Nothing we could do. With games still to play. And Joker did have another. stretch.

With those 15 games. Voter, this bias is what I'm saying. The point I'm making is that we know a guy has an actual vote. Yep. And there are still games being played. And you have your ballot already filled in.

I like him because he's black. Right. That's whatever reason he picked him, you still have games to play. Okay. Canadian. So. That's probably it.

I mean, I told him there's some uncomfortable conversations with this guy. Voter's fatigue. I mean, What I'm thinking. Because if you're going by the 70s, if you're going back. If you're not having a ring or a finals MVP, no.

OK, that's fine. 49 and 9 in the Western Conference fines of 2005. But this guy's got incredible. You cannot. You cannot put them in the same conversation. Yes, you can. No, you can.

You have to have. One guy got it done. He got it done. He got it done. Did he get it done? He didn't, he didn't foul bait to get it. Excuse me. He didn't foul bait to get it.

Excuse me. Steve Nash is out there, mixing motherfuckers up. Hey, well, have a year. Oh, hey. Your IQ ain't that up. Every game. Did you think he should have won back to back, Nash? Of course not.

Because Shaq should have won the second year. Kobe should have won the first year. Kobe should have won the first. I don't even know why he's in this conversation when we're talking about a guy who's got it done and got it done at the highest level. Why are we keeping guys that never got it done in these conversations? Like, I just don't fucking get it done.

So what's getting this? What happened last night? What happened last night? What happened last night? What happened last night? He lost. He lost one game. He lost one fucking game.

You didn't get it done when it matters. You didn't get it done when it mattered. I just, I just, this, like, it's just mind-boggling. Like,

how are we bringing guys who never want to end these conversations? Because they won MVP. We're talking about MVP. This is crazy. We're not talking about championship. We're talking about,

this says MVP voters. You cannot name Steve Nash and fucking SJN. Yes, you can't do that. They won back to backs. One back to back. But another one got more. Do we need to do the Zoom call?

We got more what? Do we need to do the Zoom call? This is MVP. This don't say more. This says, MVP. Dirk won the MVP. KG won a MVP. Carl Malone, Charles Barkley, all these guys

won MVP. They don't have rings. So we cannot be in the... We're not talking about rings. Get it done. We're talking about if you're moving the goal post. We're not moving the goal post. Yes, you are. You put Steve Nash in the conference. Because Steve Nash won back to back. No, he's not. No, he's not. I was speaking of that, Mr. Big. He's a Canadian. The only thing they got

in the comment is they're both Canadians. And they both say, we both went back to back. Technically both Americans as well, both North Americans. But Mr. B, after SGA got back-to-back MVP, you tweeted this, let's take a look at Brandon Sweet. SGA, top three point guard all time at the age of 27. I'm not debating.

It's not even debatable. I don't care. Steph, Magic, SGA. It's not even debatable. Nah. You're just going on accolades. Yes. He's not talking about basketball.

Get it done. He ain't. That is basketball. He ain't a better basketball player than fucking Jason kid. Okay. He's not. Okay. I'm going to what planet you want to keep talking about atmosphere.

And I am going to keep saying it. Those are accolades. Get it done. Get it done or get the fuck out of the way. J-Kidd got the ring. Right. Be-Gar-a- what? You got the ring.

He got a ring. Was it his team? He got a ring. Was it his team? He got a ring. I got both of these. I got both of these at the end of the fucking year. He got the-

He got. He got the-goal. He got one. He got one. He got one as being a rogue. How many rings that's the year you got? How many rings is that year he got? How many rings out there?

How many Isaiah Thomas got? How many rings out of that time has got? He got two. And Joe Dumar has got that other finals MVP. So how many of the SGA got? He has one and he has a finals MVP? He has one. And he has two.

So you talk, so. So NBA is better than Isaiah Thomas? No. How? You just said he got one. He got one. He got two six six. What you talk about?

Come on. Watch out, man. Stop playing. Stop playing. You, go watch out. Watch out. Just like I asked all. Just like I asked all last time, right?

Who are the best three in your air, right? You put T-MAC, right? How are you going to bring T-MAC to a conversation and he ain't never been out the second one? Talking about skills. No, it's not about skills. This is not about accolades. This was about eculates.

My conversation was about Acculate. No, it wasn't. My conversation was about aculate. You said the three best in your air. You said the three-place in your air. You said the three best in your air. Of course. You should have said who's the most winningness.

If that's the best three. The best three. Nick, you should. The best three players in your air. That's ill. Tim Dunn. You should have said the most winning is. No, you're putting the guy who can't even get out of the first round

who never played in Macon. You should have said the most winning is you said the best basketball play. He said, I'm putting my three in my air. I said the best three in my air. You said these three. Okay, you didn't say nothing about winning. You didn't say nothing about winning. You said the best in my air.

Why would I put those three? Because they played in June. Huh? Because I picked those three I picked because they played in June. Those are the best three. A lot of people playing you. Not team act, so I don't know why you're talking about guys played together.

Two of those guys are on the same team. I don't know why he's in this. Two of those guys you picked on the same team. No, we're not. No, we're not. Everything is about winning. No, it ain't not the conversation. If it's skill for skill, we're lining it up,

B, you're the greatest. We're lined it enough. Hold on. This ain't never been about skill. This is always about skill. What have you done it? It's always about skill. What have you done in 10 years?

What have you done in 10 years? always about skill. The three players, go look at what they did in 10 years when I was in the league for 2010 to 2020. Go look what they did. He won team at in this fucking conversation.

Yes. You lost. I played against me. You lost. I played against it. A guy who can't play in May and June and we're bringing him into this conversation.

Those are team sports. Skills. The best three. The best three. The best three. What's the greatest? Kobe Brian. Ask your question again.

Ask your question again. Rephrase your question then. What is your best three for me? your hair. Best three, I gave you my best three. Do you want the most winningness or the best three? What's your best three? If that's your best three, my best three, your best three, that was his. I'll sub-teamack for Alan Iverson. Okay. I'll sub-team back for Alan Iverson. So if I put Alan Ivors, you're going to say, Alan Ivers are getting cooked because he never won anything. But he's the, he is the better guy.

Alan Iverson said to himself, he's not better. No, he didn't say shit. He's giving that nigga credit because he's a senior. He's a seigneur. The correct answer for your error should have been Tim Duncan, Shack, and Kobe. Why? Why? We play with three big guys. If we're playing three on three.

Go look at the three on three. That's what we matched up. This is not about a matchup. This is not about a match. This is about. This is about accolades. What was the conversation was you said who's going to guard Shaq? You said some. You said some. LeBron James. I mean, who else? So why are we matching up?

Why are we matching up if it ain't about skills? Because you're trying to do matchup. You're doing a matchup. So why would you agree to the matchup? You agreed to the matchup. I'm doing accolades. You said, I had to. And then I said, who's going to guard Kobe?

You said, oh, oh, stuff. I mean. Come on, man, get the fuck out of here. You're doing it. You're doing skills. Bring up the accolates. Come on, bro. We're not free you.

We're talking about this. I did. I did. I did. And I'm telling you wrong. And I'm telling you guys what you meant. What you said. What you said what you meant.

Are you different things? I'm doing. I'm too. I mean, listen, if I'm talking about the best, why would I bring up somebody who's never, like, I'm, I need the greatest. You brought up, you didn't say athlete. I'm bringing up the greatest. So we don't listen. One thing we don't know, we don't know, we don't know our most, we don't read minds.

Okay, okay, wait, wait. So you, okay, fuck. I've lost track of, of your argument. Yeah, we have two. We have two. We have two. Brandon's legs are in this bag. Hold on, let's get in this bag for two years.

Hold on. Hold on a second. SGA is already a top three-point guard. Oh, that part. Okay, not the best. Okay, I was trying to stay there. Okay. Okay, and the other two are on your list.

You got SGA and who else? Magic and Steph. Magic and SGA. Okay, I'm glad. It's my top three. I lost track. I wasn't sure Magic was in there because he has to be. Yes, yes, magic's in it.

Okay. It's my top three-pointers of all time. Okay, just me, as much as I like SGA, I just need to see more. I need to. It's too soon. It's just to, he's going to play a whole lot more basketball. And he's on an arc right now where maybe you'd put him above magic at some point. You might.

You might. I mean, he, well, I'm just saying, he's got a long way to go. Open a movie theater in the hood. I got a lot of assistance to go. A lot of winning and go. A lot of shit to go. Okay, but I got magic number two to Jordan on my old time. So that's where he belongs.

High praise. Okay, but that's who he was and that's who he that's who he probably will endure being But I I just appreciate the fact that that you acknowledged SGA in a big way Because most people don't and I don't seriously I don't understand it There's something missing in SGA that doesn't click with either you two There's something it's it's like you think he's soft or because he's he's like a fashion plate Because he's Canadian. No, Is it Canadian?

No, I don't take anything off his plate. He's a six-six point guard. Hold on, Skip. I don't take anything off his plate. What does that do with that? I give him all credit, what credit is due. But he's not done yet. Okay, but there's-

I've watched a lot of basketball. There's some lack of edge to him that you don't like because you played with edge and you played with edge. There's something missing there deep down in your psyche. You don't connect with it. Where you don't honor it. Not yet. You don't.

No? He's because he's not done playing yet. He's still doing it. Right. I'm giving him credit, but credit is due, right? I just think Nicola has outplayed in the last two years for MVP. What Shea's doing, I can praise him simultaneously saying he's not a better point guard in my eye than Jason Kidd. Okay.

Praise him in the same breath said he's not a, that's what I'm saying. He's more of a scoring. He's not a point guard. He's not a point guard. This man says, just like they say Alan Ivers. Alan I mean, he says point guard. All right. I got it.

He says point guard. So therefore, the phrase, I'm going on his words and his words alone. Just a pure point guard. He's not a good. He's not a good. Like really good. Just as pure point.

Alan Iverson is not a point guard. Is he not? Is he not? Why is he not? Why is Steph considered a point guard? He said step is number one. Why is Steph number one? And he's the same as Alan Iverson,

but Alan Iverson is a shooting guard. Why is SGA a point guard? and he plays just like Alan Iverson. It's weird. Hold on, hold on. Why can't the point guard game elevate, right? It can't. The center game is so different

from when you guys play, right? Throw it in a post, right? Now we got a center today. That's damn near the point guard. Yeah. So what is the difference? SGA is listed as a point guard. Okay.

Point guard game has elevated. That's why the game is getting so. I'm saying he's a point guard. I'm saying he's a point guard, Brandon. No, but they're saying he's not a point guard. I don't look at Steph as that. Yeah, but that's a point guard. But because of how he came in doing it.

I look at Shea as a point guard for his team. Yes. So Steph has the ball. I mean, SGA has the ball in his hands during the course of the game more than Steph has. During his career, SGA dribbles the ball each game. Pick and roll. All that. More than Steph does.

Yes. So I don't look at Steph as the point guard. he's the smallest on the court, yes, and by definition of height he is quote unquote the point guard. I know but Draymond plays the point more than stuff right.

On that team, Draymond Green is the point going forward. But on that team he's the point guard Draymond position is powerful but on that team he is the point guard. On Oklahoma City team Shay is the point guard

when Alan Arvison and Eric Snow played on the team together Eric Snow was the point guard Alan Arvison was the shooting guard by statute A.I. Size and everything says point guard Yes

him and Steph in my eyes are the same people. So what is James Harden to you? Is it two guard 100% bro that they made into a point guard because of what his skill set brought to the table. He ain't run the one at Arizona State?

James is not a point. He didn't. He didn't. He came in. Just as James, just, listen, same as Nicola, right? Nicola's not a point goal. He left the league and assist. Yes? James has led the league and assists and James is not a point guard. He's a shooting guard that can pass. He's a shooting guard that can pass it. And hear me out. And if James decided to,

he could have averaged more assist than he did. Yep. That's true. But, because his playmaking ability. Is Duane way a shooting? He came in as a shooting guard or a point guard. He came in as a shooting guard. He's a pure shooting. He's a pure shooting.

He's a pure. He's a two. He played the point guard. He played the point guard position. Magic Johnson was a pure point guard to me, right? Yes. Start to finish. Is that even a thing now?

Is that Norm Nicky? But I don't like the thing. But I don't like the thing. You know the facts. That's what I'm saying. It fucks up the game. Is that even a thing now? Pure point guard?

Like, I just feel like everything has been elevated. Like the center position, dude, we, Like you said, history. Yoke, this is history. We've never so, so like saying, hey, Shaq versus Yokic, it's kind of like, you know, like how would that play out? Like, we got a center that's like shooting threes now that's making plays. Like that's a whole different type.

And now you're saying, okay, hey, Isaiah Thomas, Goulgar, SGA, SGA is 6-6. Like, what are we doing? But you're saying, like, what are we talking about? The game is elevated, right? But it's my matter of reason. It's elevated. So it's like. Why has it elevated?

Because the actual point guard that has. the ball is now being asked to be the dominant scorer on the team. Go back to Isaiah Thomas, little IT that you just said to play for the Boston Celtics. No, no. I'm talking about him. I'm just talking about for him. He was a scoring point guard. He was forced to go out there and score the ball.

Damon Liller. Even Russell Westbrook, when Russ put his head down and say, I'm on score, I can score average 30 points a game. 10 assists, 10 rebounds. If it's elevate. We've elevated the point guard position where Steph is still considered a point guard without having to bring the ball up, run the offense, get Clay Thompson involved, or none of the Andre Miller type, Jason Kidd type, John Stockton type, Chris Paul type. None of that type of positional fortitude. You don't even get that. Now it's if you're the point guard, the reason you can score is because you got the ball in your hands the most.

So if you can go do your shit, Brandon Jennings, as a point guard, you came in. flash and pass. But once you found out motherfuckers couldn't guard you, I'm going to get 55 on y'all niggas because you can't guard me. Now I can really go do my shit. It opens my game up because you got to respect me as a score. That's the elevation of what the game has come. We went away from the point guard passing the ball.

You are a scoring, you were a passing guard that could score. That could score. You a pass first. What did you see yourself as? Yeah, a passing, like you said, a passing guard that can score. Did you think of yourself as a point guard? It was a point guard. It was a point guard.

Yes. So the thing, so I'm glad. But that's because that's how we was taught, right? And I feel like now the game is so elevating to like where, like the six, like, think about it, Kaye, K to 666, 6.7. There's not going to be a lot of guards, point guards in the top five that are 6'1. Who are you going to put it as a point on their team though? But guess when he's not him, who do you going to play better though? But guess when they win, they had Jenkins at the point and they came off the ball?

And Kay was at the two. He's played off the ball. They're better team. They play way better. They are better. They're a better team when you got a point guard out there. He can play the position because he's Dominion's big, he's aggressive. Advantage's, right?

But all actuality is you are better when you got a traditional guy at that position and you can let that scoring guard be him. Donovan Mitchell probably was his best when he dares Garlenex to him. That's all I'm saying. Yes. Tyree Maxey ain't figured it out yet because he's a shoot guard. He is. Better James.

is next to him, James are willing to pass, and James like, do your thing. Go do your thing. But I can score when I need to, like game six in Detroit. James double, double this and third. Let me do me. It's that, right? So it's the same as Donovan Mitchell and James Harden are pretty much the same thing, but James is a better passer, right?

Absolutely. C.J. McCollum, Dame Lillard. Ooh. Right? Both two guards. One of them guys is going to have to force to be the point guard. Yep. Because you can't not play both of them.

Dame can handle it better. so you're going to put Dame as the point. And that's, he handled, so, so the kid from Utah, Isaiah. Callier. So those type of players still need it. Yes, absolutely. Keon George is the key on Tejohn. He can score it.

But I'm going to rather have the ball in Isaiah Carrier's hand. He's got a playmaker to facilitate. Okay. So you need that score. You need a ball handling that relief pressure that knows how to get the ball to win, where how. You still need that. Okay.

You were a package. You knew, listen, I'm a path to do. I'm going to get it off. But then if I need a bucket, I can still go get it. Okay. Isail Cardius is the past first guys with scoring is probably limited. Yeah. Can go get a bucket.

Okay, okay. Because our fast is. Okay, okay. It's that. Okay. Right. But Steph, Alan Arverson, those dudes are special. Dane, six two, six three, special.

They are special in that field, what they do. So, do it's hard feet. So do we call them just killers? Yes. Basketball. Lombos. Basketball. What you're saying about Luka, though?

Luke, okay. So earlier you said, you fit that, dog. Luke is only going to pass it because he can't find the shot. Like, right? So is he a point guard? Well, he can average, you know,

10 assists. He can do double digit. I think he can do both because he likes to set up the offense. And he's a really good. I think that for his mentality, he's setting the offense for his advantage. So that he can have the advantage

at the top of the key, I can go, about my guy because y'all worried about the pin downs y'all worried about the curls I can go do my thing and get the advantage I don't think traditionally he's out there trying to make his teammates better Andre Miller Chauncey billups

certain guys that want to make the team better he's not one of those guys he's trying to get his shot off this is about Luca it's about Luca it's all it's about Luca and by the way he led the league by far in usage rate so it's going to be in his hand and he also led the league by far in turnover per game because he's just going to turn it over.

A lot of times because he can't find a shot and then he just tries something crazy to... But he can pass. He does know how to make the right play. He is a right playmaker at the right time, but it's just more times than not he's looking for his shot. His best attribute he can bring to the table is kicking the ball ahead. Facts. Because once he gets in the half court, you know what he's going to do with it.

It's my ball. Yeah, it's my ball in the half court. So, Brandon, it's the same thing with Trey Young, right? That's a good one. It's the same thing with Trey Young. I'm about to say Tray Young's name. Same thing with Tray Young. I was just about to say Tray.

Right? Lead the league and assist. Go average at least nine every year. And turnovers. But going to put the, you know, on the other side of that thing. I was just. Brandon, you fit Steph,

Tray, dang, like, well, you pass the ball better than do because you're willing pass it first. Yeah. But Steph, Trey, like, that's, if you play in this NBA, that's what you would be that, right? You got to guard me.

You got to guard me. Yeah. I can get, boom, boom, boom, boom, got this thing. I can do this. do this, and I can still make the right play. But you're going to do this first, right? You want to get, because it leads to his point he's just made, now you've got to guard me.

Like the SGA to Caruso, I'm making that past. Yes. Yeah, yeah. I'm making it. Because he might, Caruso might throw that bitch up to you. You didn't ever get back. I'm making the past because it's just the right. You want to, yeah.

I'm making the right. We're talking to, we're talking to somebody's ahead of you do what? Throw it to them. Just you're going to get it back. More than life, or you're going to make him, you're going to do your. You're going to do your thing. You're going to make the right play. Whatever it is in that regard.

Okay. That's all I'm saying. Go ahead, Joe. Go ahead, Joe. You think you are bred, point guard pass first. Right, right, right. But I'm a bucket while I still can average motherfucking nine, ten assists in this bitch. So.

Steph is not, I don't get a fuck on any hard. Steff can try as hard as he want to. Five backs. So, all right. So with these four teams left in, right, the playoffs, we got the Cavs, we got the Knicks, and we got the Spurs. and okay, see. What team has a real point guard?

James Harden? Is James Harden the only real guard? Brunson, SGA, the same players of me. So it's like James Hardin is the only real point guard on the real, only one of the same. I'm not going to even go say that. But I'll give him more, I give him that because he's left the league and assists.

And I throw down Fox in there as a. Because we're talking about what you need, like to get down the track. Because it's just interesting now that we're talking about this and it's like, okay, well, who got a real point guard in this situation? James is willing to defer, though. He's willing to the closest thing that we have to real point guard and that's from these four teams as we're going to get. Since you got brought up, James Harder,

let's talk a little bit about the Cleveland Cavaliers. Pistons dominated the second half in game six of Cleveland to get a 21-point win to force game seven back at their crib. After overcoming a 3-1 deficit in the first round, Detroit had high hopes of getting their second straight comeback series win. But like Canaan says, we know where hope works at. So let's check out these highlights. if we can please.

So calves dominated in the first half as the Pistons offense went cold. After I'll score in Detroit, 3122 in the first frame, Cleveland went on a 24-9 run in the second quarter, take a 17-point lead at the break. Things just got worse for Detroit in the second half as they trailed by as much as 35 points in this game. Donovan Mitchell took over in the third quarter, scoring 15 of his game high, 26 points in that third frame. Spider also had eight assists in six boards in the game. Jared Allen delivered a never big-time game seven before. performance, 23 points and 7 boards and 25 minutes of action.

Evan Mobley added 21 points and 12 boards and Sam Meryl was big off the bench with 23 points going 5 for 8 from 3. James Harden had another tough game 7 though, 9 points on 2 with 10 shooting, but the beard did have 6 assists and was plus 31 in this game. Cade Cunningham struggled in this one as well, finishing with 13 points on 5 of 16 shooting. Danish Jenkins led the pices with a team high 17 points but was also 4 of 12 from the field. While Tobias Harris, Jalen Dernan, Azora Thompson combined for 17 points while going to combine 5 for 20 from the field. The Cavs held the pisses to 35% shooting for the game. Outscored them 58, 34 points in the paint. Caves advanced at the Eastern Conference Finals for the first time since 2018.

So, Sean, when you look at this Cavs, get another Game 7 win. Eastern Conference Finals, what are your biggest takeaways from the Cavs game 7 win? went over the pistons in Detroit. Well, I think out of all the predictions, I think everybody picked the pistons, right? Y'all all picked the pistons. I picked the Cubs. What, Game 7?

Mm-hmm. And I just seen something that I knew was going to be the difference maker. Did you say you was wrong in game six though? Did you tell them you was wrong in game six? Was that wrong in game six? I thought I picked. Pitchin' Pistons?

I thought I picked the Pist. I thought you picked the calves like us? No. I was always on the opposite side of y'all. Go ahead. Oh, we know that. One thing for sure, you know that. But I think the takeaway is, like, I think everybody's been feeling Kate had did so much to get them in that position and he burnt out.

And I think when you burn out in that position, you're looking at who else is going to help me pick up the pieces? Pick up the pieces. Tobias, pick up the piece. Jay Cole wasn't there. He wasn't there. He didn't show up. And then Durden tried to show up. Six.

He heard you. He heard you because he played harder. Played it. Right? But he's not the guy you depend on to get you buckets. Sasser came in finally. They finally put the guys in, Paul Reed, Sasser, Karris Levert to try to balance the equation.

But I think what the Cavs did was they played possum. I think they waited for game seven to actually put it away. I looked at the faces of Donovan Mitchell, James Harden in game six, and it just didn't look like they was engaged, like they were going to take this game off and go put it away. way in game seven. And I don't think they can do this against the Knicks. I think it's going to be

a way cleaner matchup for the Knicks. I think Jalen Brunson is just going to take this matchup very seriously against no defense James Harden, barely any defense, Donovan Mitchell. Max Trues is going to go in. He's going to do what he does. I think he's the one guy that's going to change the game as far

as energy effort, playing defense, hitting shots. He's one guy on their team that actually shows up when he's consistent with the energy. Jared Allen he shows up game seven they need him he did the same thing in the magic in the magic series

I don't know man Evan Mobley just not that kind of guy you can depend on it's like they got too many variables Evan Mobley Evan Mobley no he's not balling like he posted

last last game he's not balling like he posed to he not balling like he posed to 2112 6 and 2 no no nah no no no no no no no no no no no

no no no no I like what Jared Allen did more than him. You know, you can fill the stats seats when you up 40. You can do certain shit. But when we need you to do certain shit, six, five, like you punked out on me. So I'm looking ahead now. I'm like, Knicks, all right, you got Carl Anthony Towns and Mitchell Robinson, guys who play hard. They're going to attack from all angles.

I don't see the pistons as a team that's going to come back next year and do what they did this year. I think that this year was as far as. they go with it because everyone's going to refurbish their teams. And the Pistons, I believe they got money. The players that they have didn't show up Mitch, I mean, what you're talking about, Duncan Robinson, all those guys didn't show up, man. And it's as unfortunate for Kay because he plays so hard, come back from a collect lung, and to have to burn himself out for that, nah.

I don't see Detroit coming back and doing what they need to do. But the calves, they got a chance to get rid of the James Harden curse, to get over the Donovan Mitchell curse, and to make some noise for the Cleveland Cavaliers again. But the only thing going wrong for Cleveland is Cleveland. You know, they still got doo-doo brown colors. They still attached to the Cleveland Browns. Wine and ghosts. You know, it's still got the residue of LeBron James leaving. It's a lot of shit going on over there.

Only championship. They could get over that little hump. I roll with the cast, but I don't think they get bad as them Knicks. Because, can I say this? In the beginning of the season, who did I pick? I picked the Knicks in the Spurs. Yes, you did. I just want to make sure you all get that.

But you left the Knicks because of the Thumb. Because of the Thumb. You did? So if it wasn't for Josh Hart, I would have two of my teams in, but Josh Hart fucked everything up. A thumb in the Trinity. Yeah. With the last series of the D.D.

Detroit series, yeah. D. Cade had to do too much. I think he got worn down. I'm throwing multiple bodies at him. Game in, game out, have to do too much throughout the course of the game

and not just being able to put his cape on in the fourth quarter when they needed him. Jared Allen played great. Evan Mobley did his thing. Max Struz, I think, was the key, the way he defended. The way him and Wade defended Cade throughout the seven games,

I think he did an excellent job. But in game seven, right? You have to, this is a critique of J.B. Bickerstaff. I think he did a hell of a job throughout the year, right? During tough times, tough decisions have to be made. And in that game, throughout that series, but in that particular game, right,

there are two bigs. Jared Allen and Evan Mobley, the first half controlled the game. Jared Allen controlled it. throughout, right? And you didn't match his energy and their size, right? You got Duren and or Stewart and or Paul Reed trying to battle both of them. I'm like in my feelings because during watching the game, I'm like, yo, play two bigs. Play too big. Put Paul Reed in. Paul Reed can match Evan Mobley, just energy. I ain't saying it's going to match his production, just his energy,

lively body, he's going to match that energy. He can guard him. You need Isaiah Stewart and Orduren to just focus in on Jared Allen. I would have put Stewart in that moment because of his energy of what Jared Allen was bringing to the table. Just the energy. He might do something crazy.

We know that. But I'm taking that chance in that moment. It's game seven, ain't no tomorrow. That was just the biggest thing that I saw with the coaching and the matchup and how the game was going in game seven. And Cleveland did their thing. They went in Detroit, which I picked Detroit to win game seven on their home floor. Cleveland had not proved to me that they can go in a tough environment and went on the road, but they did.

Nick's here is going to be a lot different. I think both ways. Cleveland was able to defend Detroit because they didn't have shooters. The Knicks won't be able to play Cleveland the same way because they have shooters, right? I think it's going to keep those defenders honest. the wing defenders, bridges, Hart, those guys, I think it's going to keep them guys honest.

And Donovan would be able to do his thing for the most part, because you've got shooters. And it depends on what James Hardin is going to show up in this series. Is it going to be a facilitator or a score? I don't think both is needed right now, but as a series goes on, one role might change.

It might flip-flop. But it's going to be a good series. I'm picking the Knicks in this series. But it's going to be a good series. I like what Cleveland has displayed. I like the way Max Drews is playing. I like the way the guys, the other guys are playing, the energy guys, I like what they're bringing to the table.

Yeah, but I think the pistons in their regard. I think they're going to go back to the drawing board. They understand Kaye needs some help. Tobias can't be your number two. Duren can't be your number two. They have money to spend his offseason. Do you think they extend, I mean, they got to give during his bread? He don't deserve no.

I think they cut it to it. His ass can go. They cut it to it. Thank you for your services. But listen, it's only one guy safe here. 22 years old, Mr. B. No, because he's going to be all in bed, they got a pen.

But I don't think it's... Listen, we ain't got it. Listen, we ain't got it. Listen, I think they've knocked some of that off to go get another guy. Okay. What if he say no? Well, hey.

If he say... Let the doorknob. Hey, let the doorknob hit you with a good Lord split you. Okay. All right. Hey, yo. Let that door hit you in the crack of your ass on the way out.

And the crack came in? That's what a good Lord split you? Okay, why not? So you know what they're saying, right? What a good Lord split you? What's you got? What's you got? I mean, for me, I mean, just to their point,

I think the, I mean, I think the series went too long for the calves. I think just the fact that the pissings don't really have a lot of scoring on that side, and a lot of guys didn't really show up, and Kate had to do a lot. I think that's one of the reasons why the calves won't get past the Knicks because they just took too much time off this year's, which this year should have been over for them. If we're just looking at it on paper, I mean, come on. And then with the pistons, man, yeah. I mean, you know, I think it's time that they regroup. You know, they're kind of in the same position like the Bucks right now, you know.

Everybody's on the table and you just figure out what's next with them. I mean, you've got to keep Kate for sure. And then, but, you know, with Darren. You know, he had probably one of the worst drop-offs ever in NBA history. I mean, he went from 19 to 10 points in the playoffs. I mean, that was like the craziest drop-off from anybody. So to pay him the max and give him all that, I mean, I think you're just shooting yourself in the foot. I think the right end's on the wall because, I mean, next year is going to be the same damn thing.

I mean, what's going to happen? The NBA gets better every year, so you can't hide. Jayland Dern, I mean, 22 years old, I'm just going to say he can't get better? Yeah, but this is like, this is, like this is different. Like, this is, this ain't the Spurs. Like, the Spurs got a lot of, like, you know, history and guys that's still coming back around. That's like, I'm not saying that the Detroit guys aren't coming back around, but it's just different. Like, and he's just showing that he's soft as hell.

And I don't, and I wouldn't trust him not a bit. I mean, all this is because you lost your girl or whatever. It's like, just like, yo, bro. Like, yo, we got to figure this shit out. Like, this is bigger. And we saw it in the magic in Orlando series and it carried on. So to me, the only person. and safe on this team is Kate.

Mm. Yeah, Jalen Durnal, I got him. He was 20 and 11 in the regular season, 10 and 9 in the postseason. I mean, it's just staggering. That could be the biggest drop off. It's one of them. I think Will it is the biggest,

but we went from like 50 to like 35 or something like that. Oh, man, we thought. I thought he'll say 50 to like 15. God, do you. Oh, 50 to 30. Oh, okay. It's like going from 15 to 35, but 35 is still 20 rebounds. Beyonce to Rihanna, man.

You can't go down. He only had 35 and I locked his rest. Yeah, that's deal up. So I just can't let the pistons off any hooks here because I really like this team to the regular season. And they did win the East by four games. And I like the coach a lot. And I like the star. I'm not sure he's qualified as a superstar yet, but I like him a lot, Cade.

and yet Rashad's right I've missed a bunch of picks on the show everyone involving the Detroit Pistons because I kept believing when I shouldn't believe and they're the one seat against the eight seed

against Orlando and they come out and they lose game one at home and then they go to Orlando and lose three and four and they're down three to one and then they say okay let's play let's play oh okay it took that okay, let's play, and you face three straight eliminations, and I'm back on the bandway.

I'm like, okay, here we go, right? And then you went two at home and you lose two at Cleveland, and in that game five, I just, I haven't gotten over it, man, because they're up nine with two and a half left at home. You're up nine, the superstar, he's just got to get it home at home. You just got to figure it out. And meanwhile, James Hardin in the fourth quarter and overtime of that game five is going one of eight from the floor and over three from three and three turnovers. And he's missing three free throws in overtime. He just keeps missing free throws.

He keeps saying here. No. No, you guys take it. And then you said you just saw it in their eyes. But Detroit goes to Cleveland and says, boom, right? You know, here, here. And I thought it was wrong. Yeah.

So now, wait, you got game seven at home, and this happens, it's beyond comprehension. It's 125 to 94 in your house. 125? I don't get it. Something is really wrong with this basketball team or organization. There's something missing in there. psyche-wise, belief-wise.

Man, I don't know. I don't know if I've ever seen anything quite like this from a one-seed where every other night you just don't show up at all, like at all. Game 7, I tried to watch it,

but it was over like that. And maybe you're right. Maybe Donovan and James just said, okay, especially Donovan, just said, no, no. No. But it's a dangerous game you're playing if you say, let's wait until game seven. We'll go win game seven at their place. Really?

Dangerous game. Yes. Okay. But this is just wrong, wrong, wrong, because this team showed you for 82 games. It's way better than this. To me, and I know this is the real stuff. This is when it happens. This is when it counts.

But something went way wrong here. and I don't know. Does it start with the head coach? I love him. I do believe I've always liked him. It's a flawed roster. Yeah, it is. It is.

But it wasn't flawed through 82 games. It was not. It was a regular season. It was not. It's a regular season when everything is free flowing. The big guy can catch four lobs of game and he ain't got to work on no post moves. No. Like all of those.

I'm just saying this is what it is. But you won without a, you know, with the clap lungs. It was already a spanish. You went with eight and two. And they won the east by how many games? Four. Four games? And Danes comes out of nowhere.

He's a G-Leager. And he just starts lighting it up, man. And he actually had some playoff moments that were pretty good, you know. They need another playmaker. They need shooters. They need a sore Thompson to get in the gym. They do. During the get in the gym.

Yeah. And Tobias is a number three instead of a two, you know. Tobias is a free agent next year. So they got a decision there to make it. They can, if he take a major pay cut or they let him walk. Yeah. I think Duncan Robinson is a free agent as well. Is Duncan Roberts in a free agent?

I believe he is. But you can't have. No, Duncan's under contract. Okay, you can't have, oh, it's Kevin Hurter. That's a free agent, Tobias. You can't have a roster where you got Duncan Robertson and then Kevin Hurd on the same roster. It's just, you can't do it. It's the same player.

Yeah, no, they've got answers to, they got questions. The situation is the answer in off season. But I think that they, Trayson Langdon and what you're all going to do, right? This is on you to fix this. This is on you to go out and figure out what you guys are going to offer during, see if he's going to accept it. But you got, I'm saying, but you got to put their roster together in a way to help Cade. Like, he had to do entirely too much in this playoff season.

This both first round and second round, right? That's a long series, a lot of where. on that body and, yeah, you could tell in game seven, man. Like, long series, a lot of different defenders on him, man. He was tired. He was tired. Tobias Harris, I mean, where were you? Let's shift ahead to the Eastern Conference Finals.

Starts tonight. Cavs, Knicks, 3C, 4 seed. At the Garden? Is that Madison Square Garden? Where the lights are bright. Do you think that the Cavs have a chance in this series? Chance? I think they can make it competitive.

Yeah. You can't count them out. Can't count them out because they play great at home. I think James and Donovan have to come with a different type of emotion to this particular series compared to last. I think they was a little bit nonchalant knowing that their experience can outweigh the pistons. But I think now going against somebody like Jalen Brunson who's proven to come in and take your heart out, especially at the garden. Then you got Carl Anthony Towns. He's no, he's no Jalen Derton.

He's going to come in. He's going to get his boards. He's going to shoot his threes. He's going to drive the basket. And I think Mitchell Robinson, he's going to get office of boards. You got to block him out every single possession. You got Josh Hart who matches Max Trues. You got Backel Bridges who runs around all day long.

You got Alvarado. You got McBride. You got O.G. who may be available. You got a bunch of guys that really have something to prove to the city of New York. And I think that's more of a saying right now is they have a saying. have more to prove to New York than Cleveland has to prove to Cleveland. And I think that's going to be the deciding factor.

I think New York has more pressure on them. Cleveland don't have pressure. Like that's the thing. That's true. That's true. They have to prove, compared to you, he has to prove to you that he can be a number one option and take them to the final. But I told you.

I said when they got James Hardin, I said, now he's a number one option on the championship. I'm just saying. To prove it now that's all he got pressure on him too. Dames got pressure on him. Can you get your team there? They have pressure, but they don't have as much pressure as the Nix, though. Like the Knicks is going, like the Nix was in the club partying last year saying that, you know, they're going to the finals.

So, you know, the Cavs, they ain't been back here since Brown. So, you know, it's new back to this. It's new to the city again. So, I mean, yes, it's pressure for who they are. But, you know, if they lose, they lose. I mean, it's kind of like, you know. Like, you know, we're expecting. I mean, you know what the NBA won't.

What they want? If you're going to go get. No. Going with the Knicks. Next Spurs, man. Nick Spurs again. You know how they did that lockout year. Skip, why is it simple to you?

It's the best offense in the East versus one of the worst, certainly for a playoff team defenses. You already pointed out, Donovan and James, they don't care. They're not going to play much defense. think they're going to get mostly shredded, but I do like them to win. I'll say they can win a couple of home games. So I'll go Knicks in six, and definitely Knicks tonight. Okay. Series, game one of the series kicks off tonight.

Yeah, I'm going to see them do some coaches like I just stated, like matching Mitchell Robinson menace up with Jared Allen. Yep. Like, that's like, I would, like, Carlton and the Towns in Mobley, they battle. But having Carl Anthony Town Try to deal with both of them bigs It's a tall ass Can only block one of them out

Especially if OG not available Trying to play small against them It's not going to work So I think you gotta play Carl Anthony Towns and Mitchell Robertson together some Offset Jared Allen's energy Let's wrap up today with our Playoff picks forward by underdogs

Prediction Markets Let's take a look at the updated standings If we can please Oh, shit. I'm still left up. Can you still? Hmm? I'm not good at math, so.

I mean, yeah, I'm not good at math either, but I think... Great of hosting. We're going to do the math, but I'm thinking my math is math. Damn, Brandon? I'm up there. I don't know how I'm 35 and 36. We had a bad week, bro. Come in, you picked the same team.

Rashad is number one, just one, though. Rashad is number one and Kenya's number two. How? Let me see. All right, well, tonight I got the next. So write that down. I should be 36 and 36. You got 10 losses.

Matt. So you got you 10 games above. Hold on, let me do it. Go ahead and do that math. I'm 32. I swear to God somebody fucked up my score, man. Yeah, you got 10. But I've played more games than him.

Yeah, he didn't play enough games to match up with me. I think you were in first place, yeah. I'm still in first place, brother. He ain't matched up. He got a place. It's slim margin, but I'm still in first place, kill. So game one, Easter Conference Finals, the night at Madison Square Garden,

where the Knicks ready to host of Cleveland Cavaliers. Nix. coming off two consecutive seven game series with one day of rest since their last game seven in Detroit. Meanwhile, it's been nine days since the Knicks have played their last game regardless. The Knicks are favorites tonight on their home floor coming off the sweep of the six years. 68% chance to win game one. Cabs with a 32% chance to win. Let's go around the couch.

Hold on. Y'all give Nick his loss after he picked when the game was over. Yeah. That's what I want to know. Yeah, he's lost anyway. He lost anyway. That motherfucker picked when the game was over. Picking when the game was over.

That shit was... He in China, I get that, but hey, niggins. That whole next day over that, motherfucker. I'm going next. Nix. Nix. Nix. Are we going to have another...

No, I'm going to go next. They'll take care of him. He ain't close anyway. No matter who you go. So nobody will advance. Listen, listen, I can go eight. Listen, I can go eight. As a result of this?

14 games. Listen, I can still catch up. You picked the thunder. You picked the thunder. Yeah, that shit going to be rocking. It's fine, but we still go over there. Hey, y'all know Tombstones in the chat. Make sure everybody put the tombstones in the chat.

Everybody want to know who this is. You know, this is, Gilly, are you okay? Gilly, are you okay? Are you okay, Gilly? Someday, we'll meet again. And Skit, we might have to do a real funeral service at the end of the finals to properly bury him for once and for once and for. for once and for all, for ducking the smoke.

On that note, shout out to everybody in the chat. Appreciate everybody on this couch. Appreciate our talented crew as well. This has been another episode of Gills Arena, presented by Underdog. Whoa, whoa! We'll see y'all tomorrow.