Gil's Arena - Victor Wembanyama's MVP Push SETS OFF Gil's Arena

Episode Date: March 26, 2026

Victor Wembanyama's MVP Push SETS OFF Gil's Arena as Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Crew react to the San Antonio Spurs superstar continuing to pitch his case for NBA MVP as he dominates both sides of the court and debate if the french phenom is spitting or tripping with his take that he deserves the honor over Shai Gilgeous Alexander and Nikola Jokic. Next, they react to the NBA Players Association requesting to abolish the NBA's 65 game minimum rule for major awards as players like Cade Cunningham, Nikola Jokic, and Luka Doncic are dangerously close to missing out on top honors during career seasons and discuss what the league can do to make things fair while also curbing the NBA's tanking epidemic. They also break down how the Detroit Pistons are faring without their MVP Candidate in Cade Cunningham as they continue to look like the top team in the east without Cade and react to LeBron James adding another milestone to his legacy as the King passed Robert Parish for the most games played in NBA History. Finally, they give their takes on another milestone for Kevin Durant as KD passed Michael Jordan for the 5th most points scored in NBA History and discuss where this accomplishment places Durant amongst the purest scorers in the league by breaking down Bleacher Report's Top 15 pure scorers list. PLEASE Give us a LIKE and SUBSCRIBE!! Today's Gil's Arena Crew : Gilbert Arenas, Josiah Johnson, Brandon Jennings, Swaggy P, Skop Bayless & Kenyon Martin Gil's Arena premieres every Wednesday & Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. Sign up for Underdog HERE with promo code GIL and play $5 to get $50 in bonus funds or bonus entries https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gi... If prescribed, new sexual health patients get $15 off their first order of Sparks on a recurring plan. Connect with a provider at https://ro.co/arena to find out if prescription Ro Sparks are right for you. Protect your family with life insurance from Ethos. Get up to $3 million in coverage in as little as 10 minutes at https://ethos.com/arena. Application times may vary. Rates may vary. SUBSCRIBE:    / @thearena0   Read Rashad's Blog - https://rawrashad.com/?blog=y Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos!   / discord   Must be 18+ (19+ in AL, NE; 19+ in CO for some games; 21+ in AZ & MA) and present in a state where Underdog Fantasy operates. Terms apply. Concerned with your play? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit www.ncpgambling.org; NY: Call the 24/7 HOPEline at 1-877-8-HOPENY or Text HOPENY (467369) 2 Min Countdown 0:00:00 Show Start 0:01:58 Wemby Continues To Pitch His MVP Case 0:09:11 Luka Is The NBA's Best Offensive Player 0:38:32 Players Association Bashes The 65-Game Minimum 0:47:41 LeBron Plays The Most Games In NBA History 1:26:26 Kevin Durant Passes Jordan In Scoring 1:47:54 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Whoa, couch? Gills, like 83 degrees outside. Huh? That look good, don't I? Huh? He said, huh? Fashion. Everybody else, you wouldn't know it, everybody was shorts, short, short, short sleeve, short.

Jacket. These, these is not shorts. No, them the ones you throw on to go outside the door, them sex shorts. Or back in when we played, them the ones you wear under your jeans for draws. You're the gray? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You got the gray. Draws or hoop shorts.

Yeah, them joints you throw on, yeah, when you got a, man. Red socks though? Huh? Red socks? He won't the match. He's whooping. Wait, did you go anywhere like to a story? Hell no.

Oh, no. Oh, my God. What? This is Los Angeles. But sure. Magic. He's stopping for gas. He's in the valley.

He's good. Since we get out of here, I take everything on. He's good. North Hollywood, man. Oh, yeah. In the valley, they're a little rough out of here. You know what's right? Wicked.

Wicked. Wicked. That's my neighborhood. The dudes ain't on colors like that no more. But what's it is? Bita, who is it? We don't on that side of the time. Unless you ain't throwing up sets and all that.

You think you'd be all right. Yeah, you went on that on outside of town. And I'm old too, so it's, man. You ain't throwing that up, you ain't claim that. I'm colorblind. You know. Color blind. Bugging people.

Going standing on the block with your gangster stands. Like, yeah, yeah, you're looking for problems then. He's going anywhere. He's a lot of gas going. But this is Gills Arena presented by Underdog. Woo-Wo. I'm merely your host, Josiah Johnson. We got NBA legend.

Arc Raiders Most Wanted. Gilbert Arena's here with us. You're not most wanted? No, no, I'm still most wanted. Okay. I'm still most wanted. Not an NBA legend? No.

No, it was something else. I was going to ask you, like, do you remember your lines? It was like, I think you got so comfortable with the... He got so comfortable It's just See the next year We got NBA champion in the world

Swaggy Pete Nick Young back with us Yeah Mr. Tende I'm looking for a 10 day Currently looking for a 10 day If you or somebody you know has a 10 day contract Next year That you would like to give to Swaggy

Next year 10 days Because you are no longer Playoff eligible sir Yeah Oh yeah you're right Summer League Summer League He didn't get waived

He didn't get waived He didn't get waived He didn't get waived He did. No, I can get picked up. Denver waved the shit out of him. He can get picked up now. Denver waved him.

No, no, no. Lifetime wave. No, I could get picked up. I'm waiting on somebody picked me up a playoff spot. Me too, Swap. That's a horrible feeling, too, just so y'all know. What you want?

It is. Yeah, yeah. The Denver waved them. Then they won a championship. So I won a championship. You know, they sent me the ring. No, they didn't. Yes, they did.

You'd be wearing it. I got two rings. No, you don't. Two rings. You would have showed me. Boy, much shit is we talked in here, you would have showed. I forgot about that. That's right.

But I don't count that because. You count the first one. As much shit as we didn't talk in. The first one I played, this one I got way before the playoff run. Gil. Much she didn't have been talked about that one ring. I don't think he would have showed up with another one by now. No, I don't want you try to feel like that.

But that's why I do this. It's a bad feeling when y'all can't win at all. And I can win when I don't. So they sent it to you, you went to the arena and got it. I didn't want to do that. Not the dimmer. I didn't really...

See the next to Swaggy. We got one of the tightness of the sports media game. Skip Baylitz back in the building here at Gills Arena. You got to take it easier on me today than you did last week because this man over here he just chewed me up and spat me. He ain't here, so you're good. You know. You got to worry about him not here.

Him not here. We got to skip some theme music, man. Yeah, what would you like your theme music to be? Jordan. Bulls theme of it. The boy's anthem. The boy's anthem. That would work.

We will try and get that clear. All right. From our music department on this side of the couch, we got the distinguished gentleman from Oak Cliff, former number one pick, Kenya Martin. Yeah. Last but not last but not least, arguably the best golfer on the couch representing tough crowd, car carrying country club member. We got Mr. B, Brandon, Jenny. Tiger Wolf I got to take my new shots

I know I was going to say right now right here Swaggy, when did you play with him? No, no, no, no, no. Skip. What about Skip? Skip is the best golf. Yeah, skip. I mean because I didn't want to answer that question. Okay, first of all, that's last place. Just because he wears an outfit.

Don't mean, he's good in the outfit. That's how you fall flagging with the golf? When you go to the, when you go to the basketball court, the person who has on everything MJ, The shoes, the socks, and just everything Michael George. That's him in golf. He looked good. The pictures come out great.

The photos, the sweet. With the feet, you know. That's crazy. He's not post videos. You only post pictures. No, I post videos too. One day he sent me a picture. He didn't know how it kind of got like the, if you hold it, it kind of plays.

That is true. When you hold it, you told what happened. That's cool. Y'all can't see me. It doesn't matter. See, look at my back swing. Before we move on, Swaggy, when did you play with the Denver Nuggets? I don't remember.

You don't remember? Did you ever they won a championship? Really? Yes. Well, you were exactly. I'm just agreeing with him. But you remember of the Denver Nuggets in 2018, sir. Oh, we didn't win at here?

No. Oh. Did not. I lied. I'm all for a shit, y'all. You just can't say shit people can fact check, though. I'm sorry. You really know that.

Production status. But we got a lot to get into today. Here's what's cracking in Gil's Arena. So Wimby made his case for why he should be the MVP this season. But is the alien spitting or tripping? He did have a three-tiered approach to why he should be the MVP. He got the mic. It's his time to shine.

NBA Players Association clap back at the league's 65 game rule or change is coming or is it here to stay. Kevin Durant, one of the most efficient bucket getters in NBA history. But where does KD stack up against the all-time grades? Before we get into all that, as always, this show is brought to you by Underdog. Underdog's available in most states, including Texas, California, and Florida. New customers get $50 in bonus entries when they play just $5 to get started. Just use Code Gill when you sign up, and it'll load instantly. Underdog, make picks, win money with Code Gill.

And if you can't watch this show live with us on YouTube, we have audio versions available on Apple, Spotify, wherever you get your podcast. So, San Antonio Spur has been cooking since February 1st. The who? The San Antonio Spurge. Can you know players? I'm a whole fuck up to. That was a good one. Thank you.

Spurs has been cooking since February 1st, going an NBA best 22 and 2 in their last 24 games. Just three games behind the Thunder for the top spot in the West, with 10 games left in the season. Wimby has emerged as a viable MVP candidate and one of, if not the, best two-way players in the league. So after San Antonio's blowout win over the heating South Beach, South Beach, Monday. South Beach. 0-2. 0-2. to clinch their first Southwest Division titles since 2017

when he was asked to make his case for why he should be the MVP this season. My first one would be that defense is 50% of the game and that it is undervalued so far in the MVP race because I believe I'm the most impactful player defensively in the league. Second argument would be that we almost swept OKC in the season and we dominated them three times with their real team and four times with more rotation players. And my third argument would be that offense impact is not just points.

Three arguments there. To Wimby's points, he is the most valuable defender in the league. Kern Furnerunner to win his first defensive player of the year. The Spurs did go 4-1 against the Thunder this season, and his offense of impact does go well beyond this points. The alien averaging 24 points, 11 rebounds, three blocks and a steal with 57 games this season while playing just over 29 minutes per game.

So Wimby currently has the highest net rating in the league at 16.6, with SGA a close second at 14.9. But SGA has a higher player efficiency rating than Wembe. with Yolkich currently leading the league in that category. So Gil, we'll start with you first. Wimby spitting or tripping with his MVP case. Look, it's the same argument I had for Shea, was it two years ago, where the voters had them coming into the NBA, you know,

preseason 10th in the West. And they were number one, and he was the best player with the young team. And it's the same case here where no one had Spurs, you know, fighting for the top spot in the NBA. And in fact that Wembe is the best player, he is a two-way player more defensively than offensively as of right now. But, you know, two years from now, obviously, he's going to be taking over everything. He does have a case. I mean, he's behind, but, you know, you can give him two if he's two or three. It just seems like, you know, his catch-up game, he's going to have to give you a couple 50s here and there.

I mean, to really, you know, give a real run for Shea. You know, it seems like Shea has it locked in. It's his to lose, right? If Wembe goes out there, have a 40, 20, 20, and fucking 10-block game, then, you know, we're talking. But, you know, right now he can't argue that he should be. you know, in this conversation. But the fact that he has to speak on and let you know that no one's really considering it

because She ain't said shit, but just go out there and do what he does. So I can let's move on to you. What do you think about Wemby's making his case for the MVP? I don't know. I don't like that he keep pleading and begging for it. But the fact that he mentioned defense, I feel like the MVP is not.

a defense award. That's the defense of player. I feel like when you look at the MVP's it's more of the offensive side. You talk about Joker with the triple doubles, averaging, talking about Shea averaging 30-something, Luca, almost a triple double. You know, these guys is flirting with 50, they can triple 50 points so they, you know, offense are more. You know, so I think we're trying to give Wemby too much too early. He's going to give it. He's going to for sure be an MVP one day.

But right now, I don't like that he's begging for it, you know. I mean, he was asked the question, so he simply answered the question. You can brush it off. You don't have to give reasons why you should be MVP. Like, you know, you could say some real smooth. easy I deserve it. That's why. And keep it pushing. Okay.

So I'm great boo. Let's move over to you, Skip. Had you on this couch last week, talked a little to Wimby. We did. Yeah, I believe at that point you said you didn't think he was a viable MVP candidate. What do you think when you hear Wimby giving his three arguments for why he should be MVP this season? I'm with Nick on this. This young man to me, because he's been campaigning now several times for several weeks. is getting dangerously full of himself a little prematurely.

That he's starting to believe he is the alien, that he does already own this league. And I remind everybody, he still hadn't played one single playoff game in his life, not one. And I would remind everybody that if you look at his regular season one loss record in three years of pro basketball, it's 84 and 90. And I know the first two years he didn't, he wasn't surrounded by quite the talent that he has now, but he did not dominate in the first two years. And this year, his blocks per game, just for the record, I'm not exaggerating.

They have fallen almost a full block per game this year. And that's a dramatic drop, if you know, total blocks for a season. And he's clearly still the best defensive play. and he is dominating and he is overwhelming and overpowering. I got you. And he will win defensive player of the year run away. But Shea Gildjus Alexander is going to win most valuable player run away. Because just look at the odds right now. He's minus 900.

Wimby's third in the odds at plus 1,200. It's like the Grand Canyon gap between those two. And just for the record, this is dangerous because, I promise you, SGA is listening and taking notes right now about everything that Wimby is saying. And just for the record, even though Wimby's team has won six in a row, Oklahoma City is now won 12 in a row and it's still three games up on San Antonio. So if San Antonio were three or six or nine games up, you'd have me, but you don't have me now. And the truth is, the God's truth is that SGA, the reigning MVP and the reigning finals MVP, is having an even better season this year than he had a year ago.

He's all the way up to 39% from three. Each of the last six years, he's gotten better from three. That's a beautiful thing to see. And 39% plus every clutch number in the books, all the last five minutes of late and close games. He is number one in the league in every single category. And on top of that, he had to deal with the pressure of breaking an unbreakable Wilt record. It's just unbreakable. It's impossible, and he did it. And now he's six games past Wilt in scoring 20 a game. What is he all the way up to 132 in a row. It's ridiculous.

And he had to do it this year with Oklahoma City not having their second best. player, an All-Star and a second team all-defense player and Janele Williams for 45 games, 45 games without him. So to me, SGA, the other two things about him that people don't know, he leads the league in points off drives. He leads the league, and he leads the league in mid-range shooting percentage. So he's number one in the league at 58% shooting mid-range jump shots. I mean, these are ridiculous. He's having a better year this year than he had last year. So he can campaign all he wants,

but he might be campaigning San Antonio into a bigger and bigger bind for the postseason. Okay. There we go. Let's shift over to this side of the couch, to the distinguished gentleman from Oakley. You hear Wemby out here campaigning to win MVP, presenting three separate arguments.

What's your reaction to that? and do you think is worthy of that distinction? He was asked a question first and foremost. So I'm pretty sure it was campaign for you. What are your...

Yeah. But he's brought it up before. I want to be a defense player. You're MVP. I want to win it all. Yeah, of course. Young guys who've come in with this much hype and talent,

yeah, that's been their thought process. Has he? done enough this season to surpass Shea? I don't think so. Has he put in his team in a great position for the postseason? Absolutely. He is the best defender in the NBA, without a doubt. It affects the game the most, should I say, defensively. But yeah, I don't think he's done enough to, I don't think he's done enough through enough to surpass Jalen Brown or Kay Cuddenham for MVP. just from what they've done for their teams and especially Jalen Brown. Him holding a fort down all season when Jason Tatum was out.

I don't think Winby has done more for his team than being in the second, just like y'all are in second. I would vote for Jalen Brown before a win for MVP in that regard. Doing what he's supposed to help his team wins, only playing 29 minutes a night, 24 and 11 at three blocks. I think the blocks are down. skip because teams are weary of him now. They're more of aware of his presence.

So, yeah, you avoid him at times, right? He affects the game in that manner, right? So his defensive rating is higher, but his blocks are down, right? So it's things like that that you pay attention to. But no, he's future league this year definitely defensive player the year, but future MVP probably. But you still have guys like Shay and Jason Tatum, Jay, Brown, all these young guys, Kay stood in the league, and you still can't count out what Nicola is doing, man.

Like, I just don't want people to get used to that. Because it's not normal. It seems like they have. Because it's not normal, right? To shoot the percentage that he shoots, year in, year out, game in, game out, rebounds, and says, like, that's not normal. So I don't want people to get fatigued with Nicola's second and EVP vote. Like, that's a real thing still, right?

Just because he missed some games. he's still that. And I don't want people to forget that. Like, he is still consistently the most valuable player for that team and put his team in the best situation to win, man. But I think Winby is, he's tripping right now, but his team should do more campaigning for him than he should. Right?

The San Antonio Spurs should have campaigns and different things, commercials, and those things, if that's a real thing. Let's shift over to you, Mr. Big, what do you think about Wimby, lobbying to be MVP this season? I like it. I love the confidence. I love the swag because we do know what's coming.

And I think he's just putting things on notice for himself. Will he win it this year? No. Like Ken, like everybody said, you know, you got Jalen Brown, you got Kay Cunningham, you got SGA who's been balling too. But I think if he gets it now, it's going to be hard because for anybody else to get it. Because of what he does and what he does bring to the table. But, I mean, you know, you do have situations where, you know, Rusbrook got it.

They were in six place. Yokish, when he got it, he was in sixth place, too. So, I mean, you just never know. But I do like the fact that he is putting a notice about defense because he is a two-way player. And I just think in the future he's going to be winning three or four of these because of what he does. So, but if you do it, if you give it to him right now, I mean, you can like, you know, Anthony Edwards, all these guys, I just don't ever see them being able to have a shot to win it. Yeah, but it's never,

defense is never going to come into the equation when they come to MVP award. Just unfortunate. But, but why not, though? Because guys, because guys now, because guys now today, you got Jaylon Brown that plays both,

it's both sides of the court, right? I mean, if you play both, it kind of, it helps you. It helps, but it's not, it's not, it's not the lead offward. I mean,

besides back when Bill Russell played, but, you know, offensively, which. It's such an offensive game now. Yeah. Such an offensive game now. So, so just like quarterback's always, right?

It's, the quarterback's, going to always be in the MVP conversation for the NFL because he's the one just the yards, right? He's a touchdown and yards. So that's the points for a game pretty like an NBA, right? It's going to always be those guys, unfortunately. Okay. I'm sorry, does it matter to you guys then that in defensive winshares, individual defense,

Wimby is number one, but SGA is fifth in the league in defensive win shares? I mean, that's, and nobody talks about that, but he's top five defender if it counts. Wimby says 60% of the game. Wait a second. Then your rival. Like for the vote, for MVP, no skip, but for Hoopers like that watch. We like the fact that SGA competes on that side of the ball.

Right? Like, if we're thinking about, okay, all that he does for his team, we're going to mention defense last. Right, right. He gets everybody involved. So that's just what it is. Solid defender does what he do, hold his own, and it doesn't get to take advantage.

on defensive end, all those things. We know that because we watch and play and we watch the team and we see the defensive rating. So we know that, but as far as the MVP voting, I don't think it, for us, I don't think it would matter. Ain't that why they got, so should they have an offensive player a year or two? Yeah, I think it should be like the NFL.

Yeah. Like, I really think it should be like the NFL. They got defensive player the year. Yes, I think you know. So who would be the offensive player? It's got scoring title. I mean, well, scoring. Yeah, I'm about to say scoring titles.

That's it. Like, that's the, but is there more to offense than just scoring? I think so. Yeah, like that's going to get confusing. In order that. So, I mean, if you talk about offensive player of the year, where would you put Yokish in that discussion? That's the only person you're going to name. Are the average 28 and 11.

That's the only person you're going to try to grab is Yokage. So you're going to change the whole thing. I'm saying what Luca does is equivalent. I'm saying what Luca does is equivalent. You're going to get the score in-offensive? Yeah, he can. Yeah. You make time for the defendant.

Why not? Because you got put the guy like Giddy, who does a lot for his team. You put certain guys in that category. So what... James Arden fits that category? So what other stat are you going to be using for the offensive part? Yeah, sis. All of it.

But with assists or the points? The assists? Yeah, no, I don't think... I don't think rebounds. I don't think office rebounds count to that. What I'm saying? So is this... Is this assists?

Listen, they made up a fashion award. Just points and a sis? And plus in money. Huh? They got a fashion award. No, they don't. They, let's the... Yeah.

That's the league fits. Huh? League? Okay, defensively. Got to ask you. Yeah. Okay, we know 7-6 is 7-6. Uh-huh.

Defensively, is he a sound defender? Or is he just tall? No, he affects the game. Like, he's wrong? Because he's tall. No, he moves well. Like you, like this is like, like this. So I thought about this other day, right?

When I was watching him, it was a clip I was watching. And I was like, that's like me when I was in college I got to stay in the pain right I'm so long and athletic like but he's covered

that's how much ground he covers and protects people's deficiencies right is he seeing what I mean is is he seeing the deficiencies before they're happening I think so like Draymond

right I think he's getting better at back in it like I know you're trying to back door I'm already there yes yeah like is he doing that yet or is it just I'm reacting because I'm tall

and I can get to I think is he preventing plays from happening first at times. Not more than like he could be like sitting back and yeah like pointing like I don't even have to do all that though

early my career but does he have to do all that though? Right if you're a defensive player like the best defensive players talk the most do we hear him talking? I don't know. I got your back door. He's about the back door.

Deny, I got your back. Like those, that's when you know someone is keened in. Yeah. So we. But does he have to do it? But does he have to do it? But does he have to do that?

I'm saying, DeWy Howard type of thing. So he, Dwight Howard did that too. The White Howard did everything. But KG? All defensive players, like all defensive players, they're talking the whole game, back door, deny it. He's coming this way. Watching the play develop and knowing where the ball is supposed to go.

So there was a play like D. Wade and rookie. They was running a play for D. Wade, handback at the top of the key. I'm guarding U.D. Right? It's a double screen coming out the corner. I see who in the two. man action. I don't even worry about the downscreens. I'm all the way over here. They hand the hand back their way. He had no idea where I was. I ain't even guarding my man.

So it's seeing the play develop like you, to his point, to Gil's point, seeing the play develop before it happens and dictating how the play is going to be rinsed. And that's a big thing of film and just the more games he's spending more time. He's spending more time. He's spit on the floor, that'll get better. But being 7-6 dictates some of that stuff already. That eliminates him not talking as much. If I know you don't come in and I jump,

but you try to pass it and I just jump again, I'm just sitting there doing it. But that's a lot of that is instinct. What Gil thing is noticing it beforehand. So you prevent him from coming. You know what? Top-locked that. You drop here.

Hey, I'm going to switch him when he come off here. I'm going to take him. You take my man. It's those things. But you got to say, send them to me. That's all you really got to. Oh, but you know who you are out with, though, right? So you have to do.

You have to cover them to me. So Neney was the best talk on defense, right? Because language barrier at time, right? So I knew if me and Neney out together, I'm already vocal. I have to be even more vocal because I'm, if he ended up picking roll, he might call the coverage, but the guard might not hear it. Hey, left, left, left. Now, he in the right spot, but they probably didn't, he probably didn't call it because he,

so it's different things that, that Winby, that I can see him getting to more. But in the third year, man, it's, it's, it's coming. Now everything is natural instincts, and I'm talking about it. That's like, how are you getting in foul trouble of your seven, six? You shouldn't.

You shouldn't. You shouldn't, I don't. You got to, like, where's your preventive getting? Yeah, you shouldn't, yeah, you should never be, you shouldn't. Because there's no dominant, there's no, that you play in post-defense against. They run in 35 plays for a night.

That's not the case now. So. So, Kenyon, what if you had been eight or nine inches taller? What would have happened? Seriously. Oh, shit. With the jumping ability? With the same stuff, same gifts.

Probably would have been a number one pick. Well, come on. Every year. Probably would have been pretty good. I probably been an all-star or something, man. 7-6 with the 40-some-inch fridical. Yeah. You know the game, and then knowing, like, my, what I have upstairs, like, help a lot.

Like, being able to process things on the fly and being able to articulate it on the fly helps. It's whatever percentage it is, I don't know, but it's high, man. Like, being able to do those things, and I think he's getting there. Yeah, shit. I couldn't imagine if I was seven foot. I guess people don't, they're trying to figure out what I'm saying. Okay.

I'm not going to explain to him. You did. Defensive players, like anyone you can think of, big man, they're so good at knowing every movement, meaning they watch everyone's tendency. So they know if I do a backspin, right? And his man is going that way. he sees me backspin, he already

know this guy's about the back door. Right? So he don't even pull over. He's already going to be here, which already stops this play. Right? So the reason he gets in foul trouble, because he doesn't know these things are coming, he's just playing off of instinct. The stop

from getting in foul trouble is he's already doing preventive work. Meaning, I see you, I see you spin, I'm going to already be here, knowing this man is not going to come here and try to jump into me. So he's stopping everybody from coming in lane. Shaquille O'Neal, first foul, he's going to say, hey, let him drive.

You drive. He's going to do that hip check bullshit, right? You hit all this, you fall. No one wants to drive anymore. He prevents you from driving until he leaves the game. Do you think women get some foul trouble? I wasn't with Dwight Howard. So simple.

I wasn't playing with the White Howard. Same thing? If he sees like some really athletic guys, This is true story. We're playing Miami. We're getting our ass with that halftime. I think we're down 18. And everybody's trying to figure out what's going on.

He said, yo, listen, let D. Wade or LeBron come in here. Turk, let him come. He said, I'm going to hit him so hard. They're not going to come no more. All I need is hit is one. He pretended he wasn't looking. They back door, boom. All jump shots the rest of the game, we end up coming back and winning.

So, McGill's point. So Gil's point is You be proactive So you don't have to be reactive So you don't have to be reactive Right now he's reactive. Doing your work early is the term that we use Doing your work early

Right If I know a play coming positioning myself to be in the best position possible to help my team Whether it's talking or body movement It's not that difficult Like, what's his deflections?

Like, when somebody been seven, six, he should be leading. Should be leading. He would know. Like, Dremont Green. Like, Dremont Green. He's an excellent. He's an excellent. Stop these plays.

And he has to cut. So he's played his entire career with Steph Curry, right? Steph is not known as a defender. At times, people have tried to take advantage of Steph, put him in the post, put him in a situation, trying to get him in foul trouble, right? Draymond has had to overcompensate. That's why he has nine defensive teams and defensive player of the year awards and all that. This is why, because he's had to do so much

at covering up for certain guys' deficiencies at times and wild guard and other teams best big or best perimeter guy at times. So his excellent added to what he does for his team and that's why it has been recognized because it's glaring at what he does. And that's the reason, one of the main

reason they have four championships. So, I know y'all think I don't like, Drema, but I'm an honest person when they come to this. Basketball, I'm honest. I try not to be biased. That's why. A offensive player, remember that

our skill, our talent is to score. Meaning we have to know defense just like a defensive player. I have to know everything he's supposed to do. I got to know if you're going to, if you, if you take charges, I got to know if you block shots.

I got to know, like, if I'm sitting there like Vresiao, right? I just couldn't just come off the pickerel and just try to jump. Right? He's going to take a charge. Damn right. Right? Chuck Hayes. Yeah. Somebody like Javelle McGee. Javell McGee did the best thing for me, right?

Come off the pick and roll. He opens up to let you drive so he can try to get the block shot. Thank you. Right? I'm just going to jump into you. Like, that's, you know what I mean? So everyone has their tendencies. You just got to know them.

So knowing if someone does preventive work is very key for offensive player. So tell them when you, when y'all played us in Jersey. Yeah, I didn't like playing you. One, you knew the offense like the back of our hand, right? So, you know, like if we're trying to give Antoine a post up, you know, four is out, drop, you already was on it, make it go the other way. Right? So you kind of frustrated. So it's like, all right, we're playing against King and them.

All right, just one full flat, let's do you just some regular ass picking rolls. It is a jump shot day. As soon as I see, whatever, I'm looking over there, whatever, Eddie calls, somebody call, hey, take that away. Yep. And I kill the whole play, right? They're trying to run forwards out. I'm going to deny Twain and make him go back door.

I'm going to make him go back door. And I won't twine the – I don't want to guard Antoine Jameson on the pole. They wasn't athletic. That's what. Who? Y'all wasn't. The Wizards.

Y'all didn't have an athletic team. When? When y'all played, sir. When y'all played athletic people. We didn't have an athletic team? Yeah. No. Nobody was after me.

Like, you guys in half a half? They didn't have nobody like me, no. Like high jumpers? Yeah, because I dunked on every seven-foot defender. So. When? I was on your team. We were to...

You would have done what? I would have dunked on his hat. You would have dunked on who? Probably. You would have dunked on who? Don't on who's that? King. Yeah, backdove.

Hey, this is a fact. Hey, I have a 100% fact for you here. I've never been dunked on my guard. I've knocked on something the best. Me too. 100% factual. Who came to the closest? I've never been dumped on by a guard.

Because you know what, if I'm in a bad way, I'm going to file you. What's the big deal in Dallas? Just what it is, brother. Can't any guard ever come close? You don't know, Tyson? Any big under there. But, Guil to your point about... Yeah, so they ain't jumping into your body.

They're trying to go block the ball. Yeah, that's the thing. See, that's the thing. That's the thing. That's old Ray Island, cold up like lay up. Flip it. Yeah, that quick shit. Like, oh.

Go to your point about Wemby, Wemby averaging one and a half blocks per foul in his career. So by comparison, you got a Kemp, is that 0.9 blocks per file. DeKimbe Mottombo, I think, one block per foul in his career. Damn. He is the lead on that side. But that's first three. It's first three seasons.

603 career blocks, 405 career. How many times? 610. He probably ain't found out a lot, though. Hey, 610, 7, 6. He probably didn't file out. He probably hasn't found out.

No, he probably hasn't found out. Like, yeah. I'm looking at. But can you ask? He filed out twice this is. We had a lot. We had, it's not a lot.

Jarvis Hayes had a 47th vertical. He's not. He don't play long enough. 29 minutes. Yeah. So, Gil, would you give offensive MVP to Luca right now?

Probably. Yeah. Him over Yoke is... Luca is Dak Prescott. Hell no. Luke is Dak Prescott. Tony Romo.

No. Do you put Luca over Yoke? Did they win rings? Yeah. Would you put Lika over Yokel? That's what I'm just saying... Hey, he ain't going to win a ring. Hey.

That got the throwing them off of five thousand yards. I agree. Josh Allen. He said Josh Allen. So think about Luca. So he leads the league by far in usage rate. So he leads the league by far in field goals attempted and in three point shots attempted and in free throws attempted because he argues every single call and non-call.

And he gets a bunch of them. And he got his tech rescinded the other day so he didn't get suspended. It seemed like they both should have still got the text because there was a lot of disrespect to mothers and families on both sides, but that's neither here nor do it. There was. I'm just being real. Yeah. So, Luca also leads the league in turnovers because he's got the ball in his hand a lot and he's just going to turn it over. But he is, to me, by far the least efficient player in the whole league because from three, he's 36 percent, which is, if you look at it, that ranks 90s.

in the league. So he's taking the most three-point shots and he's 96 than making those shots. And from the free throw line, he takes the most free throws and he's 86 than making free throws because he's 70% free throw shooters. So he's, by

superstar standards, he's a poor three-point shooter and a poor free-throw shooter, but he's leading the league in attempts and attempts. And it just hurts my eyes sometimes because man, he's going to jack up. He's going to shoot 11 threes a game. So if we go back three games ago at Miami, he made nine out of 17,

which he is capable of doing. And you're like, wow. And then the last two games, three of 13, and then three of 13 at Orlando, at Detroit. And it's hard on the offense because, man, it's a lot of empty trips. And just the way when you make a three that it sets off the crowd, when you keep Missing threes, it just takes the life out of a crowd or gets an away crowd fired up. I don't know. He just, the inefficiency of it, the selfishness of it, is hard for me to sort of watch and embrace after a while. But he's like genius.

Here's a guy who can't run and can't jump, and when he gets you in the lane, he's just unstoppable with all of his herky-jerkie stuff. It's just like basketball genius. And I'm intrigued watching it, but it just gets hard on my eyes after a while because it's so selfishly inefficient. Am I wrong? He's just figured out human behavior.

Who? Luca, offensively. Yeah, yeah. I mean, great offensive players, that's what they bank on. They bank on history, right? History of the game, right? knowing that defensively,

these are the things you have to do. These are the things that are taught, right? Push them to their weak hand. We're going to ice his pick and roll, right? You know, if you're a shooter go over, right? We're going to hedge on this type of guy. We're going to harsh or we're going to sag, right? The blueprint is the blueprint.

Offensive players get to go in the summer and work all their moves against the blueprint that hasn't changed. Right? So I get to create all these moves, huh? stop, fake, pull up, hand it. Like, there's a whole bunch of things I get to work my offensive against. So that's why you call it foul baiting.

No, your defense is just stupid, right? They don't realize that what you did last year is not going to work this year because you used to hold here. Okay, I'm just going to grab it and I'm going to go up with it. Right? So it's the offensive players who are adapting faster than defensive players. When it comes to being efficient, I love. Look at it like this.

Everyone, when you are a great offensive player, everyone suffers from it. And it is boredom. Think about when Kobe averaged 35. Some of the shots he would take, right? By himself one-on-one. Okay, I'm going to do a step back, spin, spin, shoot it out of bounds with the left hand. James Harder, step-back, step-by-step-back. You know, what ends up happening is it becomes so easy that you make it good.

difficult just to have some type of challenging. A challenge. You said it. When Luca drives, no one stops him. No one. But he wants to sit there and do to mess with a step back three, shoot it from further because it's boring. And that's what the game became and becomes to a lot of great offensive players.

Like the only people who hasn't gotten really bored has probably been Shay. Steph? KD. Katie, he don't get, like he don't get, he don't do nothing different. Brunson, Brunson. Like, they don't get bored, so that's like, you can tell when someone's sitting there just doing a whole bunch of- No, no, no, no, not, not, not.

I know what you're saying, though. I know what you're saying, I'm about to just twice a mission. But that's not boring, though. But that's bad on him, but then that's bad on him. Who? I think it's more, I mean, because, I mean, Mike never got bored. Yeah, yeah.

I think it's more confident. Yeah, I'm going to wait. I'm going to wait for the double now. Like, okay, now come on, come on. I know you coming. Now I'm going to do it while you come. Like, if you just watch the games, you can see these guys. Like, you already, you had them burn.

You want them to come over, so now you can go and sit there and do all this and do all this extra shit because regular basketball becomes easy. So then it becomes more of a show now. That's when you bring it in the show. That's when night night. That's when the night night I'm sleeping. I'm turning around. That stuff's boring. This shit is too easy.

I can turn around. Damn or half the game. That's what that is. And you mix it with creativity. You're trying to get the fans. If you're bored, motherfucker. Go guard somebody. Hey, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Reddocks. Oh, no, that's going to get too boring for it. He'll get way to get it. Nobody paid. They didn't pay me here to play no defense. That's what they got Marcus Smart for. That's what they got very much. Do y'all want your contracts or not?

All right, well, let's keep this thing moving. But before we do, we ask the chat, does Wimbi deserve to be MVP? 54% of the chat said yes. Victor Wimmyndi Yama deserves the MVP. We also asked to chat, who would be your offensive player of the year this season? 55% of the chat said Luca, 24% said SGA. 15% said Yolkid. 6% picked other.

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Yeah, there ain't nothing harder from telling you, though. And nothing harder than freezing meat, man. All right, well, let's shift back to basketball discussion. The league's 65 game rule for postseason awards has been the subject of debate since its inception. The NBPA signed off on the rule

as a part of the most recent collective bargaining agreement. But Tuesday, the Players Association released the following statement through a spokesperson clapping back at the rule saying, quote, Cade Cunningham's potential ineligibility for postseason awards after a career-defining season is a clear indictment of the 65-game rule and yet another example of why it must be abolished or reformed to create an exception for significant injuries.

Since its implementation, far too many deserving players have been unfairly disqualified from end-of-season honors by this arbitrary and overly rigid quota. All right. Cunningham, one of several players that is on the verge of ineligibility, along with Yolkich, SGA, and Aluka, Gilwell, will start with you, with your thoughts on the NBPA saying the league needs to abolish or reform the 65 game rule? I said this when they made the rule. Did you? Okay.

Do you remember? I said this is one of the dumbest rules that they can put because if you have someone like Cade who misses, right? who is the superstar, who is the all-star, who is the all-N-B-A player, and he misses it, someone has to replace him. So if you have your normal third-team players and seven of those guys are ineligible who would have got voted for, that means there's seven players who are going to get that award means they'd unlock some different money that the teams can't afford.

It was always a problem. problem. If you want your Joel M. B. playing 62 games, 60 games still making all-NBA because that's how great his product was. Now he misses it. Now some other guy who's a $120 million player. Now he makes an all-NBA because he's necks up in line. Now he's all of 200, 300, 300 million. And that's what ends up happening. So it's always been

a problem. They just didn't look at it like that. So good to your point. Jalen Duren now appears if K. doesn't make all-N-B-A team, Duren can now be a prime candidate to make that third team with the trickle-up effect that you're talking about.

So you're paying more money for... He was probably going to make it in it. Middle-of-the-road talent or borderline. I mean... I mean, you're borderline. You're, you know, I mean, top 15 is top 15 in the NBA. So if seven players make it, you know, miss...

That means you're... your guy that was ranked 22 is getting top 15 money and that changes teams. Right, so it's always kind of been a problem but you got to blame the owners. Blame the owners. Stop pretending. I just don't like the idea.

Stop pretending that the players is going in there talking about I don't want to play. Never in the fucking history unless they were just really bad or they had to play somebody they didn't want to play. I'm pretty sure in the 80s and 90s those guys they didn't want to play Jordan like that. I know a bunch of players they want to play Kobe or Alan Iverson.

So those are exceptions. But for the most part, players want to play because that's how we get paid. Players want to play because I'm trying to outplay the next player. So there's never a situation where I want to go into a game and say, yeah, I'm just going to rest for five games. That doesn't happen unless it's at the end of the game. I mean, at the end of the season. But during the season, we want to play every game because it's. competition to us.

These little new medicines here that's telling us our body's too tired, you got to rest this day. It's load management coming from upper management. It's always been upper management. Imagine if I played

65 games and I'm an all NBA player. We're going to try this again. I'm all NBA player. Right? And I'm going and I'm a free agent. I'm going to unlock that extra. And there's two games left and I got my I twist my ankle. I'm playing, right? I'm playing so I can unlock the money.

What you think the doctors and the coaches are saying? Oh, this might be a fracture. You can't play because they don't want me to unlock the extra $100 a million. Right? So they're going to give me rest days. Right? It's always been the owner's situation trying to figure out how to cut their costs. That's all that you're cutting costs here,

but you're, that back in is going to kill you. And really not cutting costs because now you introduce new guys at all NBA. Yeah, that's what I mean, that's what I'm saying is the back end that the back end is killing you. All right, let's shift over to you, Mr. B. Mr. B, Mbpa stepped in, said they want the 65 game rule abolish their reform. Do you agree or disagree with their assessment? I agree. I mean, just looking at the situation in Milwaukee with Janus.

I mean, he wants to play the team is telling him not to play. And, you know, you got these, you know, you got a player that wants to play. The team doesn't want them play. So, and, you know, looking at it this year, you know, first team, second team, third team, it's going to be some guys on there that wasn't even going to make it. So it's just unfortunate because injuries are part of the game and these load management and everything that they've been trying to push. It's kind of just unfair to the players.

But other players who wasn't going to be able to get that opportunity or not getting that opportunity and that money. So I don't know. Like, they're not going to be complaining. I got some. like Yannis shouldn't make it this year he's not going to this way but I'm saying players like that

like you shouldn't know when a player shouldn't make it that's supposed to make it like you should know Yannis shouldn't be on no NBA teams but if he was healthy he would that's what I'm saying like the 65 game rules shit

like ain't no way a season Yon is having right now he should be on no all NBA or he shouldn't be talking about Yon has been on something like that. But in K's situation is different. Playing up to 65 games, your team is in number one. But if you're in 12C, average in 30, the team tell you to sit out.

I don't know. You shouldn't make it. So K's played in 61, I think 60 of them eligible. You're in your team. That's like the Marcus' cousins. The Marcus cousins, we've seen that. Like, if you're in last place, then shit. They tell you sit out for a fucking better seed in the draft.

I don't think that's, you shouldn't still make the all-NBA regardless. Yeah, but so what do you think about the NBA, stepping in, saying they need to reform or abolish the 65 game rule? You just talked about it, what, two weeks ago? Yeah, I said it. Like, if Cade is not eligible because he, like, got to collapse along, right? Yep. and he's this close to the 65 game threshold.

And like I said, so you put things in protect the team and the league, but you didn't put anything in the wording to protect the player, right? Which is crazy because, yeah, it just, to Gil's point, to Brandon's point, to, yeah, it just does something to the integrity of the game and the history of the game and it's messing with guys' legacy, right?

First team, all-N-B-A, second, those things matter when you talk about Hall of Fame and different things like that. So if a guy is falling under this 65-game threshold that is, he plays 60 games, it's just, it's not fair to the guy, not fair to the league, man. It's not fair to the fans.

But they put this thing into, the integrity of the game for tanking, right? We all know what that looked like. It has done nothing to... Yeah, it has nothing further. It has done nothing to that. Do you have to come up with another rule now in order to prevent tanking?

So this had nothing to do with that, ultimately. Yeah. So it's one of those things, man, where you put it in a collective bargain agreement and you stand ten toes on it Or if they don't agree to it, then the deal is done. It's shit like that, right? So it made no sense from the beginning. Let's a shift over to the year.

The NBPA step in, release his statement and support it, K, Cicah, Cid. Played 61 games. I think he's at 60, though, for eligible games. Only played five minutes in that Wizards game. Yeah. Oh, and that's another thing I forgot to tell him what their rule is. You've got to play like 20. There's a little weird room, but you've got to play like 20 minutes for the game to be eligible.

And I think you can have a couple in the 15 to 20. minute range that they'll still include. All right. That's crazy. I hear everything you Ford just said, and you guys played this game at an extremely high level, and I did not. So I'm going to speak to it very differently than you viewed it. I can't tell you how much I love watching the National Basketball Association,

but I love watching stars play pro basketball. I don't really love watching unknowns playing pro basketball. And thanks to a coach I did love back in the day, Coach Popovich, he invented a phrase that has become, for me, the least popular two words in the history of basketball, load management. And he thrived on it, and his players loved it. And it was an anti-tanking. It was just, it's resting, you know, like it just rests. That's all it is. Let's just play half the games.

Let's play two-thirds of the games. so that we can be ready for the postseason. And I get that. But I don't love it. In fact, I despise it from night to night because I don't want to watch Spurs of Tim and Parker and Genobley aren't playing. I don't care anymore. And that's why I love this rule,

and that's why I would fight for this rule, because I still think it's a fair rule because of this. in the last 25 years, we haven't had an MVP play fewer than 70 games. So they've all qualified for 25 straight years they've qualified. Nobody got screwed. Cade Cunningham got screwed. He got burned, but it's just a terrible break. Because, first of all, you don't talk about a freak injury.

I don't know about you guys, but I've been covering this game a lot longer than you guys played. I have never heard of a player suffering a collapsed lung, a punctured lung on the floor. It just doesn't happen. It's a total freak. He's diving for a loose ball. Just gets hit sideways and his lung collapses. You get it with a needle when the doctor just misses and punctures your lung. You get it if you get shot in the chest, you get your lung punctured.

But not playing basketball just doesn't happen. So it's just a terrible break for him. But remember, he got. his escalator last year. He qualified last year and got 45 extra million because he made one, I think he made third team all NBA last year. So he's cool with the money. It didn't cost him any money. It cost him a shot at the MVP, which he made a run, but he's not going to win it. I think you would agree. And yet in the big picture, just for the fan's sake, I do like the rule because it does give you a little more motivation to try to qualify

if you're making a run at one of the all teams or the MVP. So as a fan, I don't like it. I love it. So do you think it needs to be any fine putting up under it? Yeah. For certain, like, you play 64 games. Yeah, well, right? Well, you have to set it somewhere in stone, in concrete.

So they did from the beginning. They did. They did. Unless 20-minute rule in for the players. They agreed to, to 65. They could have fought for 60, and I assume they did.

I hope they did. Maybe 60's more reasonable. But again, no MVP for 25 years is under 70. I'm cool. I'll be cool with the 65 games if they had some other subsection A, B, C, D, E up under that. For guys, if you play 61. 61 games, then you are, you're saying. Yeah, I understand.

And then how it looks, right? Yeah. If you're missing games, if you're sitting out more games than you should be, than we think you're sitting out, then that's a common sense thing, right? Okay, that's a common sense. You're sitting out a game because of an injury that you had no control over and you play 59, 60 games and you just so happen, you miss April. All right.

That's... The problem with the rule is this. We haven't heard one organization. yet they say we're trying to we're begging him to play we're begging he just don't want to play we've heard every player

say I want to play is up to them yeah we hear it all the time it's up to them so with a 65 rule in my decision what happens is and we have the proof the player becomes

selfish to his stat and his legacy So if I do have a hamstring problem Or I do have a cap problem Or my Achilles is a little hurt And I'm an all NBA player I'm supposed to make it I don't care what you say anymore

I don't care about the franchise no more Because I'm trying to unlock something So I'm gonna go out there Oh I feel great and I'm gonna go try to play And I'm gonna get hurt Like everyone else did Hallambert came back got hurt Donovan Mitchell got hurt

They all Embed Out there playing with with a busted knee shouldn't have been playing. But he's, I'm an MVP winner. I'm a run away with it. McGill, LeBron. LeBron never got hurt. Jordan never got hurt.

He all played. No, no, no, no. No, have you all noticed? No. Yeah. You're not playing through nothing. I did. You, you play through anything.

What I'm saying is this ain't playing through injuries. They're telling him not to play. Yeah, they're just telling you. You haven't heard one team say, we want him to play. He's not playing. The player every time, say, they're not playing. I don't know. I'm waiting on them.

I want to play. Zion Williams says it every time. I'm trying to play. I can play. I'm trying to play. The proof. Every player is played. If you look at the injury that's listed because of these guys, they ain't playing,

and they play the very next game. Yes. Like, come on, man. They're looking at the schedule, and they have these, and I know it because, give me, game. Coach did it to me. Right? They go in and they write the games that they're going to win and lose and all this stuff.

We're going on the four-game winning street. Right? We're playing against the Bucks, then New York. We already know LeBron and probably Luca probably won't play against the damn Bucks, get that win, and then all three will play against New York. Right? We know that already because they've been showing us for years, right? Or we're going to play, or we're going to get the guaranteed win against the Bucks,

and then two of y'all can play against New York. Unless Luka wants to win MVP. Unless Luka wants to play, then he's going to say, I don't care about none of that. I'm going to go out there and play. Yep. And you end up getting hurt because you're chasing something. There was times where in beat shouldn't have been playing.

And if he didn't force himself, he would have won it. Right? So I don't like it now because you're altering history. You're protecting history. Right? You're protecting it because there's guys in history that don't qualify for no award if you put the 65 game rule in there. So that means Shaq has to lose.

Four or five All-Stars. There was a ready user put together a list of all the players that would have missed out on all-MBAs if they didn't hit the six-fif. All-MBA, yes. Shack misses four, LeBron misses four. Steph misses like three all-N-BAT teams. That's a lot. Yeah, so you're missing a lot. You're missing a lot.

And that's history. Like, I'm chasing history here as a player. So you put a handicap in, and we're going to be graded with this. So if I'm, if the next person is chasing Steph and Steph has four, that he shouldn't have had and I'm tying his regular one, them three

puts him over me. Right? And those are the things I don't like. There's some things you just can't change in history. Shaq played 50-something games. 51, 13. I mean, so he gave the owners. I mean, it gave the owners more control.

That me what I said, obviously. I mean, shit, the 51 games was enough. Voters are like, it don't matter. He's still, He's still Shaq. He's still shocked. He's still the, I mean, that, you know, missing 30 games made him third best, but he still won. Because other two guys still had the games in the number, so he's like, oh, shit, we got to. We're going to squeeze him in. He ain't four. We can tell you that's the short. We know that much. It don't matter how many games, Kobe played anywhere from 46 to 53, second team, first team, third team. Does it matter?

There's some players that don't matter. They're so dominant. in those games. Yolkich. If Yolkish plays 60 games, averaging the triple double, it don't matter. SGA played 64 games. It don't matter.

Luca, it don't matter. Like, there's guys who are putting so much production and dominating inside this game. That rule don't matter. Sometimes his 50 games, you might need all 82 just to compete. All 82 worth of stats. to compete.

Now, scoring titles, if someone says, hey, okay, hold on, Luca averaged 33 but played 50 games. This guy played 82, and he averaged 28. Lucas shouldn't win scoring title. It should be the most points. So I look at it like that. Most points should always win everything.

Scoring titles, steals, like it does it on everything else. Steels, rebounds, it's supposed to be the most, not the average. So you can't change. like that. The trickiest phenomenon I dealt with as a reporter covering your game was what Nick just brought up about, you played through some stuff that was no fun for you. And you just sucked it up and you played. So it's pain threshold. He's got a different pain threshold. You had a different. You had a different. You had a different. We're all different. And I always wished

that I could have some machine that I could hook up to Nick for five. seconds just to feel how bad is ankle felt and I could take two steps and say, how are you even walking on that, let alone running up and down the floor? Or maybe I'd hook up to the machine and say, oh, come on, Nick, you can go with that, right? Come on, man. Right? All right. So it's impossible for the public, even for the ownership, to know for sure how bad is it hurting, Gil? Is your hamstring really that bad? Is it just naggy or is it torn?

You know, like is it ripped? Is it ripped off the bone? You can take the MRI. You can see the picture. But in the end, it's up to the human to be able to say, no, I can play through that. I can play with that. I can't play 100%,

but I can play 92.1% of me with that. And so that's why Jordan and LeBron, at the highest level, I'm sure they have nagging this and that on a nightly basis. And they just say, screw it, man. I can go. I can do this because that's what I do.

I play. I know Jordan's mindset was, I don't care what it. Nine times he played all 82 and two more times he played 81 and 80. So he's just playing every game. Screw the playhouse, screw rest, screw, you know, like, I don't care.

I'm going to do this only because I just, I live for this, man. I jump out of bed. If there's a game tonight, I'm just going to play. I don't care if it's at Milwaukee and they don't have Yon's, whoever it is. I'm going to play, right? So let me ask you a question. Now you've got to put your owner hat on.

Now you take Jordan and you say, I will take 17 games off every year for his career to get two more dominant years from Jordan as an owner. argue. Yeah. As the owner, you're going to do it. Yeah. And that's the thing.

Like, when we played if our injury was six to eight weeks, what they tell us? Four to six. And when it got the four, hey, how you, how you feeling out there? What our stupid ass do? Oh, yeah, it's good. It's good. It's real good. Throw the little cortisol in there.

We're done. Right? Because it's competition. So our era plays. played on the competition. The doctors told us whatever we wanted to hear, we went out there. Yeah. Today, they're looking at the longevity.

I want my LeBron for 22 years. How much money am I making with him? How much money am I making with Steph Curry being on my team this long? So I don't want him playing all 82 games. What are you doing it for? Right? What are you doing it? So were you in the league still when they were, they started hooking up shit?

You're nicks. Right, right? They're hooking up stuff to you And it's outputting, right? Your body looks weakly there. It ain't that full 100. I don't want you to go out there on a 75% energy. Right?

Just take the day off. That's what they're doing. And I told them when I was going to be less games. Like, dude, I'm not wearing that. Less game thing. Yeah. Let's game thing. Protect history.

Huh? No, you can't. I mean, they're already protecting history. Yeah, yeah. Turn it down in 65 games. Now I got to score 300 points just to catch somebody. 300 points a game. But you play on.

Michael Jordan average, 35 with 82 games. What I got to average did the catch 3,000 points? 47. I know. You plan on longer. Games ain't the issue, man. No. The 82 games is not dudes and playing 82 games forever, man.

Listen, you want players to play? Put a total out there. What? Put a total. Because the total changes it, not the average. They're playing. People are playing games. I mean, to me, it gave the owners a lot of leverage.

Like me averaging 35, but I played 38 games. Right, those 65 games, and you averaging 27, you're playing all 82, and you got more points than me. I'm not, I'm playing. I don't care what they're saying, right? So it's one of those. But you're going to tell me I got a day off, I'm going to take my day off. I ain't telling me I got a day off?

Shit. I'm going to play O KC. I'm going to, I got Wimby tonight. I average, and Wimby's there. He's going to mess my average job. Yeah, I'm going to take the day off, Coach. Nah, no, no, no, no. You offer.

If you average a 38 and Wimby's there. Bro, if your job offer you. If you're doing it, stop. You're doing the wrong service for the use. There's not one human being. There's not one human being that's listening to it. If your boss come to you right now, and say you got two days off vacation right now.

Not one of you is going to say, no, I want to do my 10 hours today and tomorrow. I need the money. I want to, you're getting paid either way. You get paid either way, right? Some of us just like to work. So if your boss comes to you and say you take two days off for some R&R, take you a long weekend, take Thursday, Friday. You're taking it all.

You're not going to say, no, no, I want to do my 20 hours. No. Basketball? I don't even think, but, no, I mean. My ass. I mean, I think sports in the regular job is different. Just, period. Sports and the regular job is different.

I want to play, well. We was playing, trust me. If you were to talk to me like, hey, you ain't got to play in Sacramento tonight. I would have been like, you know where. You know what? They didn't want to go there. See y'all in Miami. See y'all in Miami.

Then you know what? I ain't going to lie. That's the only way. that offset it. If I play the dude, I know I give him up. They tell you, you're playing against the whip? Like, if I know, if I know I give,

if I know I give him 40 every time and my day off is coming, hey, hey, coach, listen. No, we're going to skip it. Let me play this one. I'll take the next one off. How about that? I get back with you.

I get back with you. Let me go ahead. Get my little 40 here. It's definitely player like that. This is personal. Oh, no, somebody over there. I got an issue. Yeah, I got issue over there.

I got issue over that. Yeah, and Gil, point of order. about Jordan and the owner. Jordan had the three more championships in him. Yes, he did. Until the owner ran his coach off. And Jordan just said, I quit. I'm out.

And he took the next three years off. Okay, just for the record. Not three more. Yeah. You don't think three? No. They're not being second Kobe. Wait, stop.

That wasn't Kobe Kobe yet. Bro, I don't think they'd be in Houston. They're not being, yeah. It wasn't Kobe Colby. What, man. If Mike Lee, I don't think they'd beat Houston. What a key? Which one?

Who's gone? Boy, you out of your mind? The one that won agenda wasn't even like that was this like, that was like a seventh eight seed, the back to back. The one that was like a 60. The back to back champions that.

The 60th. The 60th. I mean, that's fine. Whatever. That's fine. They struggled. Listen, each round, they weren't dominated.

They won. But they dominated the bulls. Go look at, but go look at what they're dominated the bulls without. Go look at each round how they, it wasn't easy for them to get to the finals. Did Shaq beat Jordan in the playoffs? Huh?

Yes, we did. As Orlando. In his first year, he came back. He came back with the number 45. But that was a young. Mike was a young guy. But as a prime shack, you don't think he, come on, man. As a, I don't know as a prime shack, but we're talking about the younger Shaq.

With the Lakers, though. Y'all said three more. Yeah, but Shaq didn't. Okay, so the year Jordan retired. So we're in the year, the Lakers won their first time? They were supposed to win the championship again. We're talking about. Right?

When they retired, the Los Angeles Lakers were favored to win. And San Antonio won. San Antonio won. Do the Bulls beat San Antonio? Hell. Yes. Tim Duncan and David Robertson? That trash ass?

It's a one. It's a one. Yes. Jordan beat a bunch of trash teams. Now, we know one more. You know Tim Duncan and Dave Robinson that was there. Yeah, I know in the league. Yeah.

What changed? Yeah. What changed? What changed? That was him first year. Put it like this Tim was a rookie Put like this

Tim went at the second year That was the second year But Jordan Messed the league up so much They had to have a lockout We don't want you all Playing 82 Let's just play 50

We don't want to see it Jordan retired twice Shit changed He retired the first time They said you know what We're gonna move the three point line in Because y'all can't shoot We're gonna move it in

Just move it move it Move it in moving in moving in Moving it moving in moving it moving in That was the first time he retired They moved the three point in The next time it's just We're gonna have a lockout God damn

we don't we don't know what to do right now NBC busted out we don't want we don't want to cover that league damn

so back to the 65 game rule real quick damn damn I'm not just telling the truth so back to that 65 game rule

several players are spoken out about the rule with many saying they don't like it during a recent Twitch stream Jalen Brown

offered his thoughts I was never a fan of the 65 game for the record I always thought it should be like 62 like 65 seen it up

a bit, just a tad bit high. 62 was like, I thought 62 was solid. But I'm really not mad at 65. Like, I just thought the contrary was that in the past, guys would be playing 40 or 50 games and then be up for all NBA teams. And they play half the season because they, and they would be, their numbers would be better because they only play half the games versus somebody who play 70,

68, 72 games. So that's a big difference. So because of that is why I feel like it was needed. You can't have dudes playing 45, 50 games and winning first team all-N-B-A. Like, you basically

came to work half the time and then got rewarded for it. Tell them. To your point, your boss, you could come to work half the time. Right? Tell them. And get your money, yeah. But then, I don't know. We was there about half the time.

Yeah, wait, Joe, M. B., when he would even have. Well, he wouldn't even qualify for no all- wait. Embed would have... All-N-BAs he wouldn't have.

Three less all-N-B-AXA. So, wait, three less? Yeah, three less. He only has how many? If you're playing the... So he would have one, so he have two all-N-BAs. You see how that changed his career?

You see how he's not... He's not even who he's supposed to be if he had two all-N-BAs. Well, he's not. Who he's supposed to be still. Right, the year he was supposed to win the MVP, averaging 34. So he missed scoring title,

34.7, scoring title, all NBA and MVP. How many games? Because that rule is. How many games he played? He played 39. He should miss a whole of that. No, but what happened is he kept...

Oh, damn, I'm playing 39 games? No, he kept coming back to try to get on board with the 65. Because, you know, they started counting down. Oh, you got 13 games left. I said, let me go ahead. You got three games, let me go ahead, bring that D out here.

He was a far-win. No, he finished with 39 because he kept getting hurt every time he came back. He don't deserve it. He don't deserve nothing. Played less than half. Yeah, they don't deserve nothing.

But what I'm saying is he hurt him. He's trying to go for it. He's got more triple doubles than this dude got played. Oh, games played in the last three of things. Nicola has more triple doubles than Joelle and B. has games played in the last

like three seasons. This man had 40. That's so unfortunate because he's 41, 41, 36, 33, 70, 31. Games played. No, no, that was just, that's what he scored. Then he missed it. Then he missed the game.

Did he miss the game? He missed a game and it was like, yeah, he missed two games. He's like, yeah, you can't miss no more games. Came back. 14, couldn't play no more. That's on him. That ain't half a day.

That didn't come in a clock. Eight. That's when he came back for the playoffs. I don't feel like this shit today. I'm going to go ahead. This happens, man. I don't know. Y'all need me.

So, don't even wait on the house. They don't even wait on the house. It shouldn't be a 60 some game. Like, I yell. I like, I like, I like whatever they was voting for from the beginning of time. If they thought that somebody with 57 games was more productive than someone with 76 games, they're voting for that.

You can vote for it all you want. I don't think there should be a hard stance on it. The voters vote. That's it. The voters vote. I don't like the idea if someone has 64 games and he averages 35, 10, and 9, and you got 65 games, you average at 22, 4 and 4, and you in front of him with one game, hell no.

Hell no. Yeah, but that's totally. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just had Nicole misses one more game, though. If Nicole misses one more game, that's, you can miss. Well, what I'm saying, if he did. No, what I'm saying, he only missed one. He can only miss two.

If he gets the 64 games, he can only miss one. We're going to pretend that triple double. We won't. That is not a thing. And whoever has the 65 is first team all-N-B-8. Somebody bumps up the first team, somebody bumps up the second team. That's the first team. I feel that.

I feel like that. You first feel with your mediocre stats compared to him and you got 22-0 minutes. You have 20 points and nine rebounds. And you're the second team and he not even only. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I see what y'all saying. 39. Okay, let me ask you know.

40 games you should not make it. Okay, I agree with you. Let me say. You should not even be mad. Let me make it. So you said if you average 37 in games, for 40 games, yeah. For 55 games. So 40 games.

40 games. 40 games, Gil. AR, average. That's less than half. That's what AR was doing. Yeah, that's not even half. Yeah, that's not even half. You played less than half of the games of the-old.

Austin Reels averaged in 30-something, right? That was on the scale. Was averaging 30-something. I'm saying you're not. But that was the first, what, 20 games? Yeah. You just want to sit out. You play 55 games and you get 30.

Like, if you play of the first 60 games and you play fucking 54 of them, And you mess around and get hurt. Yeah. And you're putting up the numbers that you averaging 31, 7. Yeah, you should be. So the year Kobe averaged 35. How many games? I was just looking at him.

How many games are you giving him before you remove his, what he did? He can't put him in him. No, I'm asking you. No, I'm asking you how, that year, we know what that year. That's 63, that 81. How many games do you give him before you say, He ain't the best play in the league. He ain't going to make the team.

Can you answer? I don't want to hear you say it's Kobe because that's what a lot of people are saying, that's shot. That's LeBron. That's Curry. They did it for everyone. So how many games?

Can he play 55? No, he's played probably 70. I'm saying 55 games average and 35. So if he averaged 55 games average and 35, he's still on that team. Yes. Yes. Absolutely. 1,000%.

To me is. And that's why they still made the other. How did he play? He played 80. That's what I'm saying? No, I'm saying just you give you. I'm just saying if he played the same game, he has his 35. Give him the same number.

He has a first, I don't get first. I don't get first. First, seventh, third, one of the motherfuckers, you better put him on there. I don't care how many games will play. Yes, I don't know. If you have 50 and 45, you're on the team, got damn it, okay? You on the team. We know what you're doing.

All right. So you put Yonis. It'll be six eight. Second team. It'll be six people on that motherfucker. You play Yonis? Yonis this year? Yeah.

No, not this year. All right then. But he only played 36 games. He fits the Joel and B thing that Joel has done over the last year. He averaged 30-some. No, he didn't. He's not averaging 30-something. He's averageing 30-7-10.

38-10. Well, I thought he was averaging 30-10. And he only played 27 and 10? No, no, no, no, I'm not putting it on. You play 28 minutes a night. That's towards this. 31 and 12? Now we're talking big business.

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passing Robert Parrish with the most regular season games played in league history. Parrish's record stood for nearly 30 years as he played in 1611 games over his 21 seasons in the league. LeBron tied the record in the Lakers win over the Heat Thursday in South Beach, putting up his 124th career triple double, set the new record against the magic two days later. So Parrish averaged four points, two rebounds as a 43-year-old in his final season with Chicago Bulls in the 96-97 season. LeBron averaging 21.7 assists, six rebounds for the Lakers this season. So in LeBron's first

first 806 career games He averaged 28 points, 7 rebounds, 7 assists In his next 806 career games He averaged 26 points 8 rebounds, 8 assists In his 23 season career, LeBron Only has a losing record Against one team that is the Denver Nuggets

23 or 25 Getting burped by Yokic And not just then Yeah, but his story Oh, not just then. Yeah, his story Yeah, you started the burpicking kid Yeah, it just wasn't me

You passed a baby alone. No, I play with some of them teams, but I was there for seven years. So, Brian also has a record for most career playoff games with 292. So, again, when you look at all the records of Brown is amassed during his career, where does playing the most regular season in playoff games in NBA history are rank amongst LeBron's accolades? Second tier. All right. 6,600 or 1612 games, second tier.

Yeah, this is second tier. Do you play 552 games in your career just one of the first year? What I mean is like he just beat someone who just who was a two-time all-NBA player, right? So it didn't matter how many games he played. He was the chief though. Okay. It didn't matter how many games he played. Playing games and being dominant is very two different days.

You average three points. He was getting into that. He averaged four points and three points for damn there, 150 of those. I mean, we should have just let those go, right? It should be starting. How many games did you start? He was the best player on a team or something like that. But just checking in the game to play it.

I mean, I wouldn't. You're not discredit. This is not, no. No, I'm not discredit. I'm just saying, you know, you play the season, 81 games, you average four. Yeah, the same. So LeBron James got to chase this shit.

Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Better. It's the parish. Yeah, yeah. So, yeah, no, I get it. It's the parish. Like, I think the last season, he just said,

fuck it, I don't even want to play no more because he was. I'm going to get that check. He was average. He was average. He was average. He was average. It's the parish. So what I'm saying is, like, LeBron's averaging.

He's all in a game. No matter. He got to play these many games. Yeah, so I got to play all these games. What year was Robert Parris last year? Uh, 96, 97. Damn. And he came in in 1960.

That's crazy. Yeah, barely moving out there, bitch. With the perfect still had a front of them. Barely moving out there, motherfucker, man. With the knee pass? Yes. Big Long john. Yeah, come on.

He's still out of that, bro. No, I'm just saying. I'm just saying it's like, so like, if you're LeBron, this is not like, it's a record, but it's not a record. because at the end of the day, if someone comes and beat it, like, were you dominant for a thousand-something games? This is what matters. That's the thing. I was dominant for these games. No.

No, I was available. I was available. That's what it is. I'm available. Who's dominant at that age? I'm available. That's why I said that is more important than the games. The games itself shouldn't be that important.

Because the person who has it, the people who had it, wasn't dominant. Man, don't disrespect. So if someone comes and beat it, you can't. What you're going to be arguing is, were you LeBron James for all 1,000? Nobody was. Okay. Gil. Robert Parris started playing basketball in 76, dog.

Thank you. Hey, listen. I mean for 20. He's available. He went through all eras. He'd been through everything. A man playing. Yeah, come on, man.

He's seen time change. He's seen he seen bathrooms go from color To take a lot of Yeah Every hotel, man Yeah Most years He didn't even time change too

But that's like 5XY2 Yeah He doesn't see no You don't see the world change Who Brian? BOW wow was still little Yeah Yeah it was little

BOW wow Yeah, little BOW It was little BOW He was like Mike Instagram wasn't even Like Mike Because I was That ain't the same as playing in NBA in the 70s,

side kicks. Side kicks. Okay, first of all, social media. First of all, he had real pure. So those, he had the pure. So those games right there flew by anyway. Shit, I didn't been here 10 years. Yeah.

Oh, 10 years. Flew by. Flew by. Yeah. That was a real good stuff back then. We seen how they looked back then. Yeah, that was, yeah. They was all of 21, no hair.

All spots. That shit was a ring around back in the day. Boston and George, baby. You don't even see that today. So something had to be pure back then for you to have a whole sunroof in your afro at 19 to 25. We don't see that today.

Like, Chief was known with other thing, though. Yeah? He was knowing with other thing. He went on it, but that man played basketball in 76, man. You know what I mean? I'll give him. credit to be a sinner him a c green to be a sinner at 40 think about it 40th thing with the high he wasn't garden shab with the high he was not him cabin willis cabin willis cabin willis was old

too no chief was he wasn't getting that action chief was getting that action chief was getting chief wasn't getting that action but i'm just saying he stopped starting five years before yeah he just getting out there So how long did Karim Adujabar play? I thought he played longer. I thought he played longer. 20 seasons? 20 seasons.

So Robert Parris played longer than? Play more games. Oh. I think 21 seasons of Karim's 20. Damn. When you look at this achievement from LeBron, damn, passing Robert Parrish's record of career games played, how impressive is that to you?

What this is proven to me is that LeBron James is the most durable professional athlete ever. I'm talking. about professional athlete, all sports, all time, ever, ever, ever. I have never seen anything like this. He is the king of durability. He is the king of duration. He is the king of longevity. He is the king of longevity. And I don't even, I don't like to talk about this, because I'm going to just say it publicly, but first I'm going to knock on wood. Uh-oh. The most incredible thing about LeBron James is he's 20, three seasons at age 41. He's had zero surgeries, zero surgeries. Is that about him or is it

thank you God or you just really blessed? What is it? I can't explain it. I just know he obviously takes care of himself and I do think it was important that his trainer Mike Manseus was an apprentice under the greatest trainer ever Tim Grover, Michael Jordan's trainer, Kobe's trainer, D.Way trainer. And I think Mike learned a lot of how to from Tim that he transferred into LeBron's way of thinking. And LeBron obviously has stuck with that routine day after day after day. But when you can play that long and you have no knee, you don't even have scope for meniscus tear, when you have no shoulder surgery, when you have no Achilles injury, when you have no broken bones in your own.

arms or legs, not one one broken, but you bust your nose one time, missed one game, but I'm not going to count that. In your extremities, you have broken no bones. So not one time has anything threatened your longevity at all.

So clearly, all the Ironman records, he just going to pass them all because you just keep on going. And it's not shameful that he keeps on going, because to your point, nobody has remotely played at this level this long in year 23 because he's still he's still balling man he's changed a lot of the way he approaches it he's more playing bully ball now but but what gets me about the no surgeries is

he's the most overpowering driver of the basketball I've ever seen so so he knew from the start he could bully ball anybody because he's 6-9 to whatever you want to call him 260 270 at some point so he's ambidextrous, so he can go left or right, and he can just attack the rim like nobody ever attacked it. So he is high contact because he's going to get hit in the air a whole lot. And he's going to fall a whole lot. And yet, and still, 23 years and not, I'm knocking on wood, not a single surgery and still playing at this high level because you haven't had anything career-threatening.

it's impossible. It's unheard of. Maybe it's a tribute to modern medicine. Yeah, but I'm saying. Huh? The man upstairs. The man upstairs. That's what I said.

And himself. He knows of his trainer would have the number one selling, like, yeah. Can't give a word of three? I don't know. We can say Iron Man, and then we can just sit here and say

outside of Jordan breaking his foot his second year. Yep. That was it. No. And he was a very different player. He was more agile jumping without the strength, getting clothesline, and you're talking about retirement. His retirement to go do other things was his surgery.

But physically, he was just as dominant as LeBron James was. Okay, but think, Gil, think about this. But think about this. LeBron has now played. You see him on the Wizards, bro. Okay, LeBron has played 658 more games than Jordan. He played 858 more.

He played 82 games, Nick. How many more games he played more? 658. That's the equivalent of eight 82 games seasons. Okay. Don't compare, yeah. He's the biggest Jordan fan. I'm going to add Jordan to this.

Like, God damn. Can he have his own thing? I said, outside of his injury. No, you can do that to fucking go everybody. No, it was outside of just Jordan breaking his foot. He, 82 games first year, broke his foot, came back 82, 82, 81, 82, 81, 82, 80, 78. Then he retired. No broken nothing.

Then he came back, he retired, came back, played the last 17 games. Then he went 82, 82, 82, then he retired. Kobe played. Nothing happened to him towards ACL. Until he tore his. At 30 something. What did you have to mean? He had shoulder surgery.

He had two. He had knee. Yeah, knees. What are you talking about? Yeah. Then he retired for three years and came back. No train just came back. Hey, I'm about to play now.

Yeah. 60 games, then 82. Okay. How many years he play? Really played? Yeah. Like if we're gonna, if you want. How many years he played?

They have them for 15 years. They count two of the wizards, which would be, you take those off, that's 13 years. those off, that's 13 years. Then you count the broke foot year, that's 12. Then you count when he came back off of retirement and played the 17th. So 11. So out of 11 years, he played 82, how many games? Nine times. So out of 11 years, he played... And off the broken foot, he did come back and play in the playoffs. So whatever. So out of 11 real years, he played 82 games, nine times. And then he played an 81 and an 80.

11. What year is this for LeBrah? 23? How can you even compare it? Like, that's, he played two of Michael Jordan in years. What I'm saying? Because, you shouldn't even put Jordan in this. No, what I'm saying is. Like, there's no need to add Jordan to.

That's what I'm saying, Iron Man injuries. That's what I'm saying, Iron Man. So he never got injured. He never had a surgery. 11 years. 23. There's no need to put Jordan in this. That's what I'm saying.

You could take 11 of anybody years. No, no, what he's saying is. Iron Man. No, no. So 82. Like, Iron Man. 82 is Iron Man. Iron Man.

11 years. It ain't 23. It ain't 23, though. No, no, it's not 20. All right. That's what I'm saying. If I played a 50 and a 60 here and then. But that's what I'm saying.

We're talking about, thank you. Add John Stockton. We're talking about injuries. John Stockton never had an injury either. So add them, man. We're talking about injuries. Like someone who's never had injuries. Stockton not in the goat.

Wait, thank you. That's what I'm saying. 82 games 16 times. 82 games 16 times. 16 times. John Stockton? Yes. Yes.

Two games 16 times. Yeah. 80 games. Caram alone, same shit. They up there. No real injury. Let's talk about something. I was the training.

He played 82 games. He played 82 games. Were they just doing that stuff? And then there was a lockout. I was the training or was they on that. Man. I don't know. I'm just saying.

I just say. Huh? No, none of you thought. You're playing 82 games for 16. Like, what's ever shit are y'all taking? Salt Lake City. They just win it. Whatever, I mean, just whatever make you ballhead at 22, whatever that is.

Right. Whatever that is. I don't know what it is. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Whatever that is that make me ball head, but I got big muscles, right? You know, I'm just, just strong as a motherfucker now. Careful with that statement. No, I'm just saying, I came in with here.

Be careful with that statement. I'm just saying, I came in with hair. Two years later, I got nothing, but I got more muscles. Whatever that is. 82. 82. 82. 82. No, I'm just talking about the 90s from 90s.

Clydex. Clydex, look. No, I'm just saying. Charles, Barber. Michael George, that's what I'm saying. Everybody had the ball here. Everybody in Space Jam. But we just know, we just.

Only one who still had the hair doing that time was Pat. Yep. We just, we just know that. You know Pat went fucking around. Lined this idiot. Yeah, whole gumby cut. A line, hey, lying this widow's peak up. I'm just saying, I'm just saying every, every sport, every sport was being busted, but basketball.

I couldn't mind that. You can't do that. That. You can't say that. Boy, every sport was busted besides basketball. Why can't they just have a... No, the secret. Why they just can't be doing the right things?

Tell us what's the right thing? Because God's missing games are getting hurt now, but you're playing... No, no, he's talking about, like, they did the right things in A's. No, I'm saying, like... No, they had the worst shit going in A's. You know, I'm talking about... In Aedes? Listen, they had to get up, they had no private planes.

They would have to get up and catch the first flight out. No trainer. They planned NBA games. He used to play on... That's doing that all night and getting on first thing smoke. He played on concrete all our life. So what's the difference? Okay, how about this? How about this? He used to dunk on concrete, like jump hard as hit on concrete.

Before they got the NBA. That's what I'm saying. There's not no difference. It is. I'm just saying. It is. No, no, let's just say. Let's just say some players then was being investigated by the FBI for getting that stuff. Getting that stuff, but they never got tested in NBA. Is it the difference?

Whole FBI chasing them from city to city clean in the NBA because they didn't test them. Oh, yeah. I'm not testing you doing during this big old thing to make my league. No. Gill. What? They didn't get tested to 2000. Hey, get it.

Ain't never did it, but allegedly it don't stay in the system that long. Like you got, for you to get, listen. Which one? Coke. For you to get busted, you got to be only. Right now. You got to be. Like, I'm getting tested tomorrow.

Yeah. Like, give it to me to day. Woo! I'm going to go in that bitch, right before. I'm going to go in there as he pissing me. You know how dumb you? I remember the first person that got called. We was like, how?

Easy. You knew it yesterday? You got to tell you. All right, let's go. Whoa. You got to be only. But we know, we know as NBA, like, they didn't start testing, testing. Like, 80s, they didn't test them.

Like the league was trying to be a league. The one thing they didn't want is drug allegations during drug years. Same thing like the 90s. Baseball getting busted, football getting busted. NBA didn't get busted because I test you October 1st, allegedly. And then I take your word. And I'm not going to test you again until October 1st. Yeah, you got a old season.

That's it? I'm not going to test you no more? A bunch of things. Right? So if I missed you that day, I'll see you next year. So if I came and you wasn't there when it was testing day, see you next year. You know what started happening, right? You want to go talk?

You start getting poured old for weed, and it was... You want to talk about life? They started getting poured off of weed, and... They got arrested for weed, but there's no test in NBA. Yeah, it does. Have you never noticed at home? When was the last time somebody got suspended for weed in the NBA? No, no more.

Never. Not no more. No, never. Yeah, the people's getting suspended. Who? A few years. Yeah. Somebody got the five games?

Yeah. You know how... How? Easy. Yeah, we're a hell of a drug. How you get the... Well, there's one. I know a few more that got the five.

You get a warning first. A $5,000. $5.25 second. Second, 25. And then five games. No, you're going to go to the program. The program first. The program first.

The program first, if you get caught again, that's $25,000. The third time is five games. I was on it, oh, it was third? I thought it was the fourth. But the caveat is, with it used to the way it was, I don't know if it's changed. Just say if you knew you was dirt, let's say if you got your one.

You got to tell them. Whatever it is, you got one, two, ten. Mm-hmm. Oh. Hey, before that sample hit the lab, right? You can pee in the cup. Uh-huh. But before it hit the lab, you better be on that phone.

Hey, that's a sample I just gave y'all. Hey, it's dirty, and I need the end of the program. Mm-hmm. And it's listening. Swiped. You can do that. Better call Cliff. Every season.

But that's, for those who, like, the NBA wasn't trying to catch you. But it wasn't, it wasn't trying to catch you. Like, it's, it's a players league. So I don't want, I don't want you to be caught so it's headlines and all that. So, no. Okay, same way for PEDs. Oh, that's, yeah. Yeah, certain things, they give you, like, certain drugs you get caught in your system,

they, they kick you at. Right? It ain't even a question. It'd be a two year per, it'd be, you got a file for in statement. They're not going to, they're not going to name it. So you just, whatever it is, it's going to be thinking.

If you get in trouble for it. If you get expelled from the end of it. Two years, if it's two years, you know something. But you got a file for a statement in two years. Yeah. So it ain't automatic, right? You got a file for a in statement. Yes.

And then they have the discretion whether they're going to let you back in or not. Certain PEDs, there's 25 games. games. It's 25. It's off top. First when it's 25 games. Something hard, what's so funny is Coke is two years. PEDs is 25. That's crazy.

What one is different? I'm just saying, yeah. Hey, what's that? Like, permithazine and all that. Like, Cody. A lot of that shit is. That shit is new. No, they're just, bang.

It's two years off top. And then you got a five-for-in statement. The codeine? Oh, yeah, because it breaks, once a hit your system, it breaks down to Coke. It's heroin. Yeah, heroin. They're on heroin.

And players, what's so funny? Players didn't know that. If you drink codeine and you're getting into assistance, it breaks down heroin. So when you test, it tests that you're on heroin. And a lot of players that know that. You're talking about the guys from the South, they're thinking it's cool and they drink in the lean.

They didn't know that it broke down as heroin. You see them dudes, they, they're searching for it. They ain't around that motherfucker, itching and shit. Yeah, they have them going through withdrawals, bro. Yeah, yeah. Trust me, I'm in, like, my fur, right later, I'm on the plane watching dudes. I'm like, you motherfuckers is crazy.

Yep. Y'all, that's what this NBA has come to? Like my last year, bro, with Milwaukee. I watched this shit. I was like, let me talk to you over here, young fella. Hey, man, you tripping. You are tripping, bro. That?

Let's keep this thing moving. Want to bunt G? One last thing we got to talk about on the show today. More positive. Thank you. So, KD continued his ascension up the scoring list this weekend, moving MJ out of the top five during the Rockets' win over the heat Saturday night. So Durant needed all 27 of his points in the game to move into fifth place, knocking

now back-to-back threes in the fourth quarter to put him over the top. Rockets also got the win thanks to a buzzer beating tipping from Amman Thompson. Oh no, here it is. Right here. What are you helping for? Thank you. Right. Like, what are you doing?

No, basketball are your playing? Like, who do you think you guarding over it? But they teach that, though. Teach me, don't. Teach you to not guard Kevin Durant? No, they teach. He just had one. They don't teach you that.

They do teach you to help. Then you're a dumb student. So I wish you would. I wish we would be in the film session. You tell me, I need you to be in this gap on this drive and I'm guarding KD. And he just hit one. You're gonna fuck if he hit one or not. They don't care about it.

Nigger, I'm guard Kevin Durant here in that corner. You know what I'm doing? Hey, I'm going KD in that corner. You drive, guess what I'm doing? Hey, my hand and Kevin Durant chest. Then I'm thinking. Cool, you move, that's good. You ain't on three-point line no more.

They said, they teach them. I'm talking about? They, like, you, I wish I would. You can't be a student of basketball if you follow in orders like that. Yeah. So after the game, Durant reflected on what it meant to pass one of his idols on the scoring list. Man, means a lot. I'm just grateful to do it here in front of the great fan base who showed me so much love.

You know, support me every game. And I'm just grateful to be here. Man, what a journey has been. I'm looking forward to keeping it going. You told me the first time you really remember watching Michael Jordan play was back in 1997 when the Chicago Bulls took on your hometown Washington Bullets in the first round of the NBA playoffs.

So here's my final question to you. How did that eight-year-old kid become the 37-year-old man that just passed MJ? You're showing my age right now. Man, just discipline, hard. work, you know, just showing up every day. That's simple. You know, I got great people around me. I got family friends, coaches, teammates that invested in me when they didn't have to. I'm just grateful for everybody along this journey and I want to keep it going.

So Durant followed up the historic game by dropping his second 40 piece of the season and the loss of the Bulls Monday. There's an updated look at the NBA's all-time scoring list just for reference sake. So Durant should pass Kobe for fourth at some point next season, still got a ways to go to crack that top three. Good. What are your thoughts on Kevin Durant moving into fifth on the NBA's career scoring list? No, what I noticed, I might name my son with a K.

Can we see the scoring list again, please, if you don't mind? Them Ks, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you know what I mean? It says something. But, I mean, top 20 is great. Right. Like you was him.

Top 10, you are known. Top five that is considered statue. You are a statue like that. Where? Where? In the world. I don't get fucking where it's at it. It's a statue.

Somewhere, though. Somebody got to put it up. Life, just life itself. Top five. If you are top five in the world at what you do, you're a statue. That's what it is. You know, he's, you know, he's going to be.

be, you know, four next year and he's going to be, you know, sitting trying to get to three. But it just shows you how great he has been for this long, right? And I think sometimes we get so stuck on not liking somebody for something so minor, and we forget, like, who they are and what they do. Right? I've seen someone say, yeah, man, you know, he, damn, he's averaging 27, 28. For the last, boom, boom, boom, I'm excited to push this guy who's averaging 22 in front of them. Because that's what ends up doing.

People are so good for so long, we want someone else there. And we kind of forget what they do. And, you know, the list don't lie. The numbers don't lie. The guys that's something, that's not a mistake. Right? You can make a stake for a game. You're going to have a great week.

You can have a great year. Great careers, that's dedication. And, you know, he's up there with the greats because he is one. So, Swahy, your thoughts on KD moving into fifth, the NBA's all-time career scoring list. You have my Houston-Ole? Did you wear that for her? What we're for today? KD?

I like it. I like it. I love it. It's the, you know, he was the insane draft. You know what I was in the same draft? Yeah. You played each other in the NCAA tournament, too? Yeah, put them out.

Put them out. You know, can't win a championship with him, so it's good to see the teammate that I won with it to see like this. You know, and, you know, the only thing about, like, these guys moving up, you're going to see Jordan at, like, number 10 in the minute. I feel like all these great scores coming in, and you're going to see the Kobe's and Jordan just keep moving further and further back. And that's like, it's kind of sad at the point, you know, and the point, but... That's a part of growth and evolution. That's going to like it.

We're getting old. Before Jordan and Kobe got there, there was somebody else that, Dr. Jay and all of them. But we didn't have the internet give so we can readily reference that information. Wiltz. Remember those? They was up there at one point, they got moved down.

No, it's history. His life. Nobody's gonna catch that. J-Kidd got done. Jay-Kill was number three on all the all-time. That's on three-point list. Why? The kid motherfuckering, like 19 now.

So skip us move on to you, KD, passing MJ, fifth all-time on NBA Chris Corrinly. So for the record, Kevin Durant has played 119 more games than Michael Jordan played. So let's start with that. But we can flip that script. And for the record, Michael, to date, has taken 2,223 more shots than Kevin is taken right here, right now. Now, so what Kevin has proven is that as a kind of a medium-volume shooter, he's unselfish sometimes to a fault.

He doesn't attempt that many shots per game, but he has proven to be the most efficient jump-shooting score, I think we've ever seen, just jump shooting pure, because that's how he scores. He doesn't get to the rim that much. He just shoots twos and threes from mid-range, in the three-point line. He's a career 39% three-point shooter.

And quick Nick Young's story, if I might, Josiah mentioned it. But back in the day, I was on the show called Cole Pizza on ESPN. And day after day, I would talk about how I'm watching this kid at Texas named Durant, and he's going to win multiple NBA scoring titles. And I just got ridiculed day after day. That bean pole, that praying manis kid, he's just too skinny. going to ever do anything. I said, no, he's seven feet tall and he shoots it up here and nobody can touch it and he can make it. And if that's going to happen in the NBA, it's just going to make

scoring tight. He has one four. So the crescendo of my abuse came on Sunday, I think it was March 18th of 2007 in Spokane, Washington. Do you remember this? His team crushed Kevin Durant's Texas by 19. It was you and Taj Gibson. Remember this? In Spokane, Washington. And I had to go in the next morning and just get annihilated on there. That guy is going to win multiple scoring titles. And then just before the draft, we had Bill Self on.

And finally somebody came to my defense and Bill Self said, hey, what Skip's been saying about Kevin Durant, book it, he's going to be unstoppable at the next level. And just on pure shooting at that height, he's the greatest seven-foot shooting. I know Dirk was really good, but he won't Kevin Durant. So that's what he does on medium volume shooting. He just shoots twos and threes that nobody can stop, and he's still doing it at an extremely high level. So I shift over at this side of the couch.

Can you watch a reaction to Katie moving the fifth all-time on NBA career scoring list, moving MJ out of the top five? No, just a testament to Katie's hard work. His dedication to his craft. fighting through major injuries, bouncing back from it and still playing at the highest level that he could possibly play at. We've seen what that injury have done other players.

But yeah, no, man, to do it the fashion that he does and not to convert the way the game has made everybody else to consistently do it, mid-range and out and not out threes and in um yeah no it just his stubbornness at greatness right I'm going to be great at this and I'm not going to deviate

from it that's a good point yeah yeah and I just yeah it's just me being in the league when he first came in and having to have that match up as a young aggressive kid and to where he is now and still is doing it at that level is something that you need to I'm saying respect to

you had to and he's not done still 25 26 a night on the low end what is the low end for Kevin Doreb we don't know that he missed two years

and he's he can average 25 for the next two three years and be top three years and be top three in scoring. So it's like, it's things like that, man, that he's still chasing and I'm pretty sure he's motivated to do it. What about, 1,100 or like 11,200 or 1,200 more point, or a season.

Yeah, and that's averaging. 18. I gave him, I did him, I did if he average 25 next year, which I don't see why he wouldn't in this NBA. Average 25 when he wants to. So that's 17 hundred points a season. I gave him 70 games. I didn't even do 70 games at that. That's 1700 points. So, um, yeah. I didn't even go.

So that's, yeah, no, I mean, he's been doing it, man. Shout out to KD. Mr. B. What do you think about KD? Moving into fifth all time. I mean, anytime you get a chance to pass Mike on anything, you know, it's a great accomplishment for sure. I've been seeing Katie since he was in the 10th grade.

He was at Cerritos College with Oak Hill, him and Ty Lawson in the back court. And I knew then. It was something I've never seen before either. He was in like the 11th grade and just, I mean, everything. He's just effortless. He is one of the greatest scores we ever seen. He's unguaratable. He works on his game.

He came back from injury. He still kept going on. I mean, I know he's going to pass Kobe. He could pass Carmelone too. but it's a guy who's dedicated who loves the game. Anybody's more passionate about the game it's, you know, Katie, you know, Kobe, Mike,

Braun, like he's in that category all the time. So I'm happy for him. I know he's going to keep going. But he is the definition of like, you know, a person that just loved the game of basketball. And to piggyback on your point B, not a lot of people

know what it is to sacrifice, right? And if you want to know the meaning of sacrifice for your craft and your sport. Kevin Durand is that, right? His sacrifice kids, wife, relationships. Because the most important thing in his life was basketball. And he dedicated his time, extra time, and more time to that. It's a testament to him, man.

Like the sacrifice that he made to be fit all time in climbing. So that's a special being. But do this scoring stuff really matter? Yes. Is he better than, like, do you put him above these guys, though? Over a guy? Like, as a what? As a what?

As a what? Can he score it better than Mike? As a what you're saying? Yeah. So he's a better score than Michael George? Whoa. Yes. I'm just saying.

KD is a three-level scorer, though. Like, I don't, this stuff, right? You know, LeBron got 43,000 points, and he's not. He still could consider fucking two or three. Like, why didn't even show this type of stuff? This stuff don't mean nothing's for nobody if you're still going to put yours in front of all this. Well, Mike won, though. This is just about scoring.

Like, this is just, like, score-wise, yes. I'm going to put Katie over Mike to me. I mean, he's the three, seven-foot. I think he has the easiest shot. There's not a shot Kevin Duren hasn't seen that's not easy for him. In the postseason, you're going to put him? Oh, no, no, no, score. No, I'm just talking about it.

So scoring, he's better than Mike. That's what I'm saying. I'm not going to say, I mean, he's a three-level, I mean, he's a three-level score, though. I'm not going to say you better score than Mike, but it's easy for him. It's easy for Mike.

I think it's easier. There's a difference. Coe made it difficult. Like, that's the thing I hate. Like, you could pass some guys. But you could do more than guys. But you're not doing. But you won't be considered better than the person.

Because you're not doing. you're doing more than me because you're playing more than me. Right? If I did something in six hours and it took you 18, you're not better than you. I average 30 for my career. But it's a short career. For my career, because it was so easy, I was bored. I went to go fucking play baseball.

That's your problem. Oh, that ain't my problem. That's not my problem. It was so easy. I want to go play baseball. It's not my problem. It ain't your problem. So that don't makes you better than me because you had no.

Yes, it does. No. Mike 10 scored, you got four, right? Mike 10. In my short, my 10 out of 11 years, I had 11 real years, 10 scoring titles. That means every year I showed up, give it to me. Give it to me. Who was this, LeBron?

Give it to me. Give it to me. Give it to me. That's what he said. No, it's not matter what year I showed up, give it to me. I don't care. They had to give MVP, they had to give MVP to other people. You are a filth.

What they got to do with it. You are fifth. With 11 years. You are fifth. With 11. With six rings. Everybody has 20. That's the difference.

What I do in six hours, you have to do 18. But you want to be better than you. Then do it in six. Six finals in 15? Let's just stop everybody at 11. Let's see what. Stop everybody at 11 years. So it's my fault that you only played 11 years.

No, it's your fault. You got to keep playing more. Wait, wait, wait. You got to play more. So it's a problem playing more. No, no, it's not a problem. What's the problem? We just talked about 65 games.

You played 40, you shouldn't be in the motherfucker. You play 11. This is they going to play 50. I mean, 20. And you still better than me? I'm sorry. It took me six hours to finish this project. It don't matter.

You get unlimited and you get unlimited time to New York. How many more shots is George Schen did K.D.? We call that special ed. In school, it's called special ed. I got to do it within the hour. So you get unlimited. $1,000 more shots. Jordan, higher, higher scoring average in

Ben Hitcher 30.1, KD6 at 27. Jordan is taking the fifth most field goals, though. Thank you. God, damn. The fifth most. That's the problem. The fifth most. So he's fifth all the top.

That's a problem. Everybody on this morning lived, their field goal takes correlates to their... You got to do that. You got to shoot 2,000 more shots than me. Yeah, because I don't have a three-point line. Now I'll say this. What do you think of the points come from?

He did have a three-point line. Do you know how far the three-point line was back in the 80s of the 90s? They didn't have the three point line. That shit was half-core. He did this because of three-point line. That shit was half-four! Where did this come from?

Where did this come from? Do you tell them what the three-point line was... Who did they do this on? It was 24 and a half feet. It was 24 and a half feet. He had two threes or something like this. 24 and a half feet. I mean, that's what they're shooting now.

That was making up stuff for Jordan. You know, that's crazy. I mean, that's what they should be. They might as well move it back. How about they move it back now? How about they move it back to 24 and a half now? How about they move it back to 24 and a half now? I mean, that's where they're shooting now.

I mean, guys are like, all everything is this gene. Put him back to 25, make it even 25. Like, oh, he took two more thousand shots. Oh, and he's shooting 50% from the field. They both are. All right. Yeah, so if we're both shooting. Let them make up something else.

So if we're shooting both 50%, and you shoot more than me and I pass you. Why I'm shooting? If you shoot 2,000 more than me and I pass you. Now, think about it. I should be better than you. Think about it. M. 33% from 3KD. Think about what we're saying.

If we both shoot 50% from the field. But you shoot more to me. And I'm shooting 2,000 more. And I still pass you. Why? Still past you. Why? What are you doing?

I don't have to do with you. What points are you getting that I'm not getting? Not a hot dog and I still pass you. No, you got to ask the question. See, if he shot 39% makes sense. But we're shooting exactly the same. No, no. So that means that means I'm getting a two-point.

I'm 39, you're 33. I'm getting a two-pointer. Not the same. You're getting the three. Katie, better free-threat-th shooter to them. Three. Better feet-thead shooter. Three.

Not the same. Two-pointer, three. So I got, I got, I got five shots. I can't happen. You can't. I can't happen. You can't shoot like me. I'm sorry, they moved it back 100 feet because of me.

No. You're shooting closer. You're shooting closer shot. You can't shoot like me. You're shooting a closer shot. No one can shoot like you. Thank you. Because we didn't in the 80s, we didn't.

It's obvious. 70s and 80s. Nobody can shoot. didn't shoot them shot. They didn't have it. It's obvious. You want to know the three-point, just so you know the difference. Just keep making up stuff for that's for Jordan and the state number one.

Jordan, Jordan made nine-three's his first year. Nine three? Three, 12, seven. Work on your job? 27. 92, 29, 27. But this is my problem. No, no, no. No, no.

No, no. There we go. 16, right? 16. They moved the three-point line in. 1111 111 you see the difference do you see the difference see the difference see

here you see the difference 80 more 3s because the line here we know Gary Payton couldn't shoot right just to show you how big that difference was no no no no no because you don't know Gary Payton has been mentioned

okay Gary Payton his first year this is how many shots he took So he took 13-3s this first year. He made one. 23. Here, that y'all couldn't shoot. They took the three-point line away because y'all couldn't shoot. It's not my problem.

Y'all couldn't shoot. 34. What are we talking about? He shot 34 and made seven. Right? What's your argument? Shot 54. You can't shoot?

Now, think about what I'm about to say next. You can't shoot. He shot 54. They moved the three-point line in. They moved it. then, Nick, he took 233. Ew. He took 300 the next year.

380, 397. He took 521 year. You know why? Because the three-point line to the NBA became the college line to somebody. You're going to shoot a lot of college. That's what happened. See, everything just ain't numbers, right?

If they move the three-point line right now to the college street, right to the college street. All them bad shooters, oh, they're living. They're going to live and die by it now because it's closer, man. Gil, I get it, man. I got clothes line. I average 37. Just keep making up stuff. Fight for him.

And on that note, a good place for us to wrap for the day. Very spirited conversation. We appreciate you. We appreciate you. Back up to Gill's arena. Yes, sir. Thank you. To witness.

So Nick, is Carl Malone a great score? Yes. Don't even get mentioned. That's why I said this don't count. That don't matter. Nobody even talk about Carl Malone. But what's the point of even showing stuff like that? You're going to just continue to put somebody at number one regardless.

You didn't answer my question. Well, Carl Malone was number one. Number two, right? I mean, I don't know if you, but being the scoring title and being the number one, the best player ever is very different. Yeah. You know what I mean? The scoring and being the best ever is very different.

That's a crazy list. Oh, how is that different? Is he playing the basketball? Don't you score in basketball? Don't you score in that the reason why you play? Scoring and playing a game of basketball is very different. There's two different things. 40%.

On that note. 40% what? Of John Stockton assists, went to Carmelon. That's true. A devastating combo. Like a two-past for the business. 40% That's a lot

That means I'm only passing to you I need to because you're going to put that shit in the hole You're going to give me money What I want to pass it everybody else With no extra dribbles I get it up Run through Was that the 98 championship

They made six threes It was making like six five two four like bruh Yeah And those coming from two guys Yeah Three guys Hornichek

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