Gil's Arena - Wemby's HISTORIC Night Blows Away Gil's Arena
Episode Date: February 11, 2026Victor Wembanyama's HISTORIC Night Blows Away Gil's Arena as Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Crew react to Wemby dropping a 40 point double double on the Los Angeles Lakers in just 26 minutes of game... action and give their take on the Alien's lastest extraterrestrial performance. They then flip to the Lakers side of the game where LeBron James sat out. to end his 21 year streak of making an All-NBA, sparking a debate on what this achievement means for the King's legacy before reacting to Bronny James taking advantage of the Laker's shorthanded roster to drop a season high 12 points. Next, they continue their conversation on the Charlotte Hornets & Detroit Pistons brawl as lower than expected suspensions have finally released for players involved and react to Jayson Tatum taking a step forward in his recovery from a torn ACL as the Boston Celtics' superstar has begun practicing with the G-League team fueling rumors of a possible return this season. Finally, they react to Damian Lillard participating in All Star Weekend by defending his title in the 3-point contest despite not playing a single game this season and preview the NBA's Mid-Season Classic going down this weekend in Los Angeles. Please give us a Like and Subscribe!! Today's Gil's Arena Crew : Gilbert Arenas, Josiah Johnson, Rashad McCants, Nick Young, Brandon Jennings & Kenyon Martin Gil's Arena premieres every Wednesday & Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. Sign up for Underdog HERE with promo code GIL and play $5 to get $75 in bonus funds or bonus entries https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gi... If prescribed, new sexual health patients get $15 off their first order of Sparks on a recurring plan. Connect with a provider at https://ro.co/arena to find out if prescription Ro Sparks are right for you. SUBSCRIBE: / @thearena0 Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos! / discord Must be 18+ (19+ in AL, NE; 19+ in CO for some games; 21+ in AZ & MA) and present in a state where Underdog Fantasy operates. Terms apply. Concerned with your play? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit www.ncpgambling.org; NY: Call the 24/7 HOPEline at 1-877-8-HOPENY or Text HOPENY (467369) 2 Min Countdown 0:00:00 Show Start 0:01:52 Wemby's Historic Night 0:07:50 LeBron's All NBA Streak Is Over 0:32:30 Bronny Drops Season High 12 Points 0:39:53 NBA Hands Out Suspensions For Hornets Pistons Fight 0:54:23 Jayson Tatum Getting Closer To A Return 1:29:46 Damian Lillard Participating In 3 Point Contest 1:55:14 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Welcome back to Gills Arena, presenting my underdog.
Whoa, whoa!
Good grain.
A lot, a whole lot of brushing.
That should be funny.
Training in the shower, and daily.
I would love to see y'all with a fro, bro.
That would be funny.
We talked to froze?
There's a couple of pictures out there when I was in the league of me.
I had hair a couple times.
But y'all don't never let it, like, get past a certain length.
I would go from that, and I'd go home and just shave it all.
Like ball.
Like, dude, like, what's wrong?
with you, bro. Like, save it.
I learned to get bored and just, but
just shave it off. It's crazy. You go ball?
Yes. Then let it
grow back, though. Right?
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Talking hair, ladies and gentlemen on the top of it.
Yeah, because that
that USC picture is.
Discussed. I didn't even want to
post it because I didn't want you to look like that.
What's what? The last, when
went to the USC game, you looked like,
I was doing like a charity case.
Like you're like. You know, like
I took a...
I don't got changed four or five.
Like you want to look out for the homie?
Right?
The nigga of a wish kid.
You took a make wish kid
to the game.
Like you wanted to bring the homie out.
Like they ain't seen him in a minute.
Like they want to see,
make sure you're good.
Just got out.
Yeah, got out.
Yeah.
They got out.
Oh, they were scared.
Oh, this is Gilbert.
Yeah.
Oh, shit.
I'm a lot of daddy.
Okay.
You know, like, when you're like,
you got a relationship with him?
No, no, no, no.
They're looking at him like.
That's fine.
Yeah, right.
This is Gimm's Arena presented by Underdog.
Woo-whoop.
I'm merely a host, Josiah Johnson.
We got NBA legend, current Ark Raider player,
and Elijah's Daddy.
Gilbert Arena is here with him.
Don't worry, it's coming soon.
Oh, it's definitely coming soon.
Are you Elijah?
Like, you ain't got no name.
Him.
See the next to get.
We got NBA champion of the world.
Swaggy Pete, Nick Young.
I'm AI Nick right now, though.
AI Nick.
Yeah.
Artitial, official...
Artisan.
Official attrition.
Official titter, tell of you.
On this side of the couch, we got the distinguished gentleman from Oak Cliff, former number one pick, Kenyon Martin.
What's that?
Got away for the music.
And last but not least, representing tough crowd in a card carrying country club member, we got Mr. B, Brandon Jennings.
We got a major golf tournament one day away.
Yeah, don't pull up because you are not allowed.
Don't pull up.
It is called not allowed.
If you ain't playing golf.
It is called not allowed.
This ain't the club.
This is not the club.
Don't show up in these hills.
I was telling you came down with you.
Everybody hid me talking about.
Can we, I don't know.
This is golf.
It's a country club.
Yeah, be quiet.
You got to be quiet here.
All that talking, shh.
We got a lot to get into.
Here's what.
Everybody by the heads.
What happened?
Moment of silence?
Moment of silence, man.
Why are we having a moment of silence?
At the beginning of Gil's reading
to present by underdog, Woo-Woo.
I mean, because, you know,
the chat, the chat,
sorry, chat,
y'all went against Rashad yesterday
with the 85 and I asked was he dead.
Then y'all started putting the tombstones in there.
Y'all was thinking it was for me,
but, you know, it's for him,
so he didn't want to show up today.
A lot of tune songs in the chat currently.
Yeah, yeah, you killed them off.
Y'all did it.
Y'all killed them off.
So here's, I'm good.
You know, it was a rough week for him.
You know what I mean?
It was a rough week for him.
You know, we don't stole his bail.
Oh, last, we don't stole his bail.
It's just.
Somebody's eyebrows.
I've been petty.
I'm sorry.
I didn't mean to.
To them's in the chat.
Moment of silence in the chat.
Shot will be back in the room.
He'll on vacation, man.
At no point.
To address these issues, but we got a lot of things to discuss here.
Is he going to golf?
Huh?
He ain't got golf, right?
Yeah, he doesn't.
Yeah, AD. I see, my bad.
Right, my bad.
That's how you start.
I don't mean trying to, huh?
Yeah, that was kind of crazy.
Yeah.
The 85%?
85%?
Yeah, y'all did it.
85%?
He jumped up.
Dead man, did.
Him and that book.
Yeah, that's it.
Yeah, that too.
Yeah, too.
Chapter 89.
Josh were dead.
Dead.
Anywho, we got a lot of things to discuss here.
Here's what's cracking in Gill's Arena today.
Wimby dropped 40 points in 26 minutes against a short-handed Lakers squad.
We recap the aliens' history-making night.
The 40-P still counts, even though it was against the Lakers.
Bench squad, but all good.
Jason Tatum did his first 5-on-5 scrimmage since suffering a torn Achilles last May.
How much would J-T move the needle for the Celtics if he were to return this season?
We're crunching the numbers, Gil.
it looks like it's very, very possible if he does want to come back
and try to make this championship bush with the Southers Squad,
currently second in the east.
And the NBA handed down the suspensions and fines for the malice in the Hornets Palace.
But did the league get it right?
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So there's only a couple of games last night.
Let's talk about the biggest one.
Lakers were down all five starters in their meeting against the Spurs Tuesday on the second night of a back-to-back.
Wimby showed no mercy for the shorthanded squad while making some history in the process.
Let's take a look at some of the highlights if we can.
Please, Wimby got to work early, dropping 13 points in the first three minutes of game action.
Also had a stretch where he scored 17 straight points in that first quarter,
finishing the first frame with 25 points on 8 of 9 shooting in just eight minutes of game action.
Wimby is the youngest player to drop 25 in the first quarter in the play-by-play era,
had 37 points in the first half, finished the game with 40 and 12 boards in just 26.
minutes.
I ain't a little kid no more.
No longer.
A lunchtime Hooper.
No longer.
No longer.
Elevated his game.
This shit's crazy.
What the fuck?
37 points in the first half are the second most and a half this season behind
Ant Man's 39.
That ant dropped on January 17th, which was coincidentally against this Spurs squad.
It was his sixth career 40-point game.
Winby's six career 40-point game moved him out of a tie with Tim Duncan and
others for the fourth most in spurs history and it was the aliens fourth game at least 40 points
and 10 rebounds wait what yeah four fourth game with 40 and 10 in his career so tim duncan only had the
four times tim duncan only had five 40 point games in his spurs career winby has six 40 point games
in his first careers i think 1236 fewer games for victor wamba wamba yeah he was like low 20 22 25
Let me six, six.
Yeah, they had a citizen.
They wasn't like, dudes weren't volume shooters back then.
It didn't have to be.
He was efficient.
He was efficient, but you got, y'all put him over a lot of.
Yes, he has five years.
Y'all put him over.
He was the best player.
He was the best.
Who?
He put him over Kobe.
You know his, you know his, Tim Duncan?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah, Tim Duncan is the greatest number one pick ever.
No, you put up.
That's, like, if you look at the stats, 10 all defense.
So in the 10-year span,
that's off a win.
When all defense, 10 all stars, 10 all NBAs.
He's the only person that did that.
But he only got 6.40-point games.
And five championships with the team he had.
Yeah, I have a way.
The team he had, he should have been had more than that.
What?
Tony Parker is Genoble.
You see, Genoblee was never a top player in his position.
He was never a top shooting guard in the NBA.
Tony Parker was in top five point guard in the NBA.
Yeah, solid pieces.
Because they want, because of the.
the winning, they getting that.
But as individuals,
it wasn't. So the first championship
had him, David Robinson,
Sean Elley,
Avery John, like that's quote. Then the second
one is
Genobley coming off
Stephen Jackson. That squad.
Then Bruce Bowman.
Tony Parker, a rookie. It's
That's what I'm saying.
He should have
more than that thing.
These guys are not top five.
And they're not.
He should be having more points in some games because he got to do more.
No, he should have more points.
He didn't need to because they played just a great system.
A system.
15 all NBA selections, 15 all defense elections.
Yeah, they made three finals MVP five.
It's just a system.
Everything evolved around him.
But low key, because we know those players individually, see, the world looks at them because they won five championships.
So they get in the credit as Hall of Famers.
But individually, Genoblee was a six man, right?
Meaning he's not a top five, six shooting guard in the NBA, nor was Tony Parker, and he won five
champions with those guys.
If this guy don't have to do that much, I mean his team was even better.
Yeah.
So they should be in the Hall of Famers.
He did.
Like guys like Jordan and Kobe have to score 60s and shit some night because they can't depend on the Tim Dunk.
I mean, the Genoble leaves and Tony Parker's and stuff.
That's what I'm saying.
This man out there getting 30, 30, 20s.
How many, 30 points?
They had to, they had to, no, no, no, 30 point games.
Genoblee.
I know it.
Genoblee.
But it just sound crazy.
20, 37.
10.
10th.
He's one of the greatest, like, top five in some people, ever.
And he only had six points in the game.
Genobley.
122 career.
What they were good at, they were good at.
So the pick and roll,
Tony Parker in that picking role, he was great at that.
Right?
Same thing with Genobley.
messing up the offense, coming in, being the winged man, just changing shit up.
That's what he was good at.
He probably could have been a star, but the offense and team was around Tim Duncan.
Right.
So we really don't get the full value of what Genoble really was because he was in a certain system.
But together, they all played great basketball together.
So he didn't have to have 40, 50 points games because everyone did enough to keep everybody honest.
So you couldn't really like double them because
And when it was winning time
I mean that's how it was with Kuwaiting.
When the finals, same shit.
You didn't have to happen a lot.
Yeah, it was.
His team was kind of like how LeBron's older
than cab teams were, right?
You don't look at them as dangers,
but because they are specialties at something.
So Bonner, nobody, like you can't
double off a Bonner because he's a three-point shooter.
So he was the first one really to have a floating four.
You're not comparing him, I mean,
Genobly and Tony Parker to Boo Boo Gibson and Azalcus.
Azalkis.
Al-Qas was also.
Buble Gibson and Ozakis.
No, no, but what I'm saying is, at that time.
But we can't double them.
All-Star.
But we can't double them.
We can't double them.
At the season, they can hit that shot.
But at that time, they were, they were very important.
You better not be the money-upon.
No, they were not to be the red rock.
Look what they had to do to get to that final.
That's what I'm saying.
He had six 40-point games in that season probably.
But listen, you saw what happened when they played them in the final.
Spurs back then, they hands selected.
Like Spurs, they're recruiting from high school, right?
The person they're looking at, they see them in high school.
They watched them go to college.
They did that so they know exactly the player they're looking for.
Yeah, for sure.
Right?
So that's why they can pull the Danny Greenies and the Kauai's and all that
because they've been looking at that skill set.
So they're going after a certain skill set.
That fits that.
So it's their plug-and-play players.
So for somebody like,
Wimmy, it's going to be easy to like to break the Spurs records right now.
Yeah, yeah.
Let's shift it back forward to when he's the one.
The one he's chasing is the championship.
Individuals.
That's hard.
Yeah, that's hard.
Individuals stats?
Yeah, it's hard to get five.
It's hard to get five.
The only thing that comfortable that it will be is the blocks
Because Tim Duncan was fucking blocking shit,
but this dude is on a whole other stratosphere with it.
I mean, this is a fast,
I mean, low-key, this is a fast turnaround from a draft.
It's like the bar with the cat.
Same, but this is a quick turnaround to be this good.
Dispurs this season?
Yeah.
Already.
So they were, uh...
The thing is...
34-48 last.
They had pieces before, right?
When they picked Wimby number one, they had pieces.
I'm saying they had, they just didn't have enough.
They had a bunch of scores.
Yeah, yeah.
They had pieces that, like, they had enough that it just wasn't.
Then you get Wemby, okay, then you get the airf.
So they were trending okay, but then you had somebody like this to those solid pieces you already had.
I think it's, it works.
So let's talk a little about Wimby.
40 points 12 rebounds, 26 minutes.
I had it had to be against the Lakers,
but was Wimby's double-double and 40-point double-double
and just 26 minutes against the Lakers
backups impressive to you at all?
Yes.
I just want to make sure, Steve, you're hating today or not?
40 points in the NBA is impressive.
See, you know what I mean?
30 points in NBA is impressive
because there's somebody trying to stop me from doing it.
So, you know, we know what he's capable of.
you know, he's going to have,
there's going to be games where he has 60.
The only thing that's going to stop him from these numbers
is the minutes he plays, right?
It ain't got nothing to do with, you know, a defense
because there's a play in here,
and I don't know why they don't know that play.
That should be the go-to play.
And they just threw it up.
And it was just like, just throw it as high as possible.
He's, hey, I don't know why y'all don't do that 10 times a game, right?
Goose them right here.
And we're going to throw it up here.
We're going to throw it up here.
You just jump real high.
Because you can throw it up by that square,
and there ain't too many people that can go up there and get that.
So he's going to break the records.
He's going to do that.
I mean, there's going to be a year where he sweeps.
He's going to sweep all awards.
There's going to be that year where everything is in the shade.
The Shay year last year where he's cleaning,
there's going to be a wimby year.
Plus the difference.
He cleans it all.
Defense, blocks, rebound, scoring, title.
Like the MVP, all-star, like, there's going to be a table where he can just get everything.
And we're going to be sitting there like, ah, damn.
And we're talking we never seen before.
No, this is something we've done.
And that year, if he's trending like that, I'm going to put his ass in a three-point contest and everything.
He's getting them over and rebound and braced the bitch up to the floor.
I don't know.
You got to do it.
I don't know what the NBA is on.
I'm sorry, I'm moving on the side.
good you know you you know names run the all-star game it's it's there are names in the
all-star game no there are so there's names in this game right why don't why didn't wimby
or Luca are winning three-point contest who's been a lot of people we're going to
talk about that little later I think Luca should have been in it like we're gonna
You're stars.
If you go back to win the All-Star games,
when he was in the 80s,
first shot, 27% starting off his career with three-pointers.
But because he got a triple team,
we know he's the best three-point shooter in the fucking league.
So, of course, you're going to put him in, right?
The best three-point shot,
the best players in shooting competitively
was in the three-point contest.
Every year, Steph, Dame, Clay, Katie, Kauai,
automatic. I don't get fuck. What they're talking about. They are automatically in it.
If you win it, you automatically in it. Ray Reggie.
You did? Yeah. Mine was me, dirt, Nash. Yeah, me, dirt, Nash, Ray Allen.
That's a good. I love to.
Sharp suit is right there. Yeah. Clayson Terry.
Too much effort in your shot. No, I'm saying? No, you got to do too much.
And I remember. But it's, you got to be quick with that shit. It's take you. You got to gather.
You can shoot it, but it's just them dudes that get that bitch in no motion in it.
I think Wimby can do that shit because he's shooting in the basket.
He got to get him a tall of rat.
Yeah, he got to get him a tall of rag.
Somebody got to hand him the ball.
Like, here you go.
Somebody got to hand him the ball.
He's going to take an extra second to lead down on that break.
Somebody got to hand the ball, though.
Get me excited.
Like, what?
Like, look at this.
Are you not excited for the 2016 in-Bet All-Star weekend here in Los Angeles at the end-
I'm happy to see Dane in it?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We're going to talk about that.
Yeah, him to three-point shootout.
That's dope.
It's dope.
I like it.
We're going to talk about that a little bit later.
No, but Wimby, now.
Wimby is what are they going to be, man.
Like, it's very impressed, 26 minutes.
26, man.
Yeah, that's.
25 and 8 minutes in the first quarter.
Yeah, I looked at him.
I looked at it.
I looked at it.
I looked at it.
It was early in the 30.
He had 23 of that already.
It was like the first 18 minutes.
I was like, oh, yeah, this is.
It's one of those nights.
First eight minutes.
I was going to take his higher on the pick him,
but I didn't think he was going to play that much,
and I was very disappointed.
I mean, after the first quarter.
They're on the back-to-back, too, so.
We have the Warriors tonight.
We got the Warriors tonight, so.
Another win, another big game.
Playing against the L.A. Fitness Lakers.
The L.A. fitness.
You know, shouldn't it?
You set all five guys?
They scared to the Spurs.
It hurt.
But they always sit against the Spurs.
Somebody's under investigation for sitting in Oklahoma City, right?
The Thunder is under investigation before a game.
Put the Lakers right in that conversation as well, damn it.
No, need to.
You see what we got.
But they sit every time he played the Spurs.
10 guys other day.
You see what you got.
They don't need.
Thunder under investigation for a similar situation,
also against the Spurs.
National Telegize game.
Due to injury on a National Televised game,
this game was on NBA TV.
This game technique was nationally televised as well.
That's the only time.
That's the only time the NBA really actually gets mad.
If it's a TV game because now you're messing with the money that pays.
Yeah, they said...
Yeah, but you got Wimby versus Brony.
Two big-time stars.
They both had nice names.
Man, I've seen what they were doing.
They had Jake Gordon.
Just looking at this band, this man playing Wemby, just watching him, man.
It's...
Of course, we've never seen anything like it, right?
he the
Janice thing right
just
he's figuring it out right
right before our very eyes
and we saw when Janice figured it out
right
that none of y'all can stop me
and
he shoots it better
this is scary man
like this is very scary
for the NBA
because it's age
a long time
he's going to be doing this one
For a long time, bro.
I had the will chambering numbers in front of him.
The only thing that stops out is how he's playing it right now, not realizing you have such an advantage.
Right?
Where you should be doing less, right?
90% of your shots, you don't even have to put the ball on the ground.
Not at all.
You can sit there, get the ball, jab.
They're going to go with the jab.
Shot.
Catch it.
Shot.
Right.
That's right over you.
That's all, that's majority of your buckets should be quick, easy buckets to the point that they can't do nothing.
Larry Burry's, you know.
But would you all right that though?
Would you all just throw it up?
Yeah, yeah.
A bucket's a bucket.
Man.
A bucket is a bucket to, not you said it's a bucket.
Guess what?
Yeah, well, you know what?
You know what?
You know the records?
Nick, Nick, you know what, Nick?
You know the records that they were saying?
A bucket, man.
A bucket.
You know the records that they were submitted out that that that's up there?
That's all he was doing.
Hey.
But that's what,
what's the same thing.
Guess what?
The same shit they just,
same shit they just
throw that motherfucker down to shack
and can nobody stop it.
It's the same shit,
just look different.
Hey, there nobody,
they shack go down
their motherfucker peeling
post right in front of that
rum and they dump that bitch down
and he hook dunk that motherfucker.
Yeah, that's the same.
Listen, they better go fine.
But guess who's still number one though?
Who's still number one in your eyes?
You see them too?
What you mean?
You're on the SEC?
Michael Jordan.
So it don't matter what he do.
Would Wimby done?
We don't know
But the Michael Jordan
The Michael Jordan thing
Is it's a
It's a
It's a
So he's got to do all
You know
Think about it
The league was
Dominated by big man
Right
Big man
And then you had
Julius Irvin
But who comes in
On the tail end of it
Right
So the NBA
Is looking for face
They got magic and bird
Right
You had that game
And then Jordan's
coming in with the aerial dunking
and all of that. And it's like,
whoa, wait a minute, we have
a dunker, cool,
but we have a, he's skilled
also. Right?
So that's what separated.
MJ, MJ had fundamentals
that the other athletes didn't have then.
They had, either you was really athletic.
Yeah. Or you couldn't
jump and you can shoot.
He had both.
Or you used a back to the basket.
So he had both. So now
he's sitting there and doing all this
extra shit in their life.
Right, what the, yeah.
The best thing we've ever...
Like, what is this?
Yeah, it's the best thing we've ever seen.
Like, think about Clyde.
Yeah.
Look at the movement.
Very different, right?
They both jump.
Clide, athletic.
Clyde.
Dominique?
It's just...
Clydee.
What I'm saying?
But you see,
I'd be gliding.
One looked, one looked purdy.
And...
Purdy.
Yeah, with the cap of the peach.
Not fair.
No, it's good.
That's but still.
It makes
Like it only makes sense like how can you even put Jordan over something like this if he does what he does
Because we can't we can't let go of what we seen when we were younger
Because my favorite team growing up right was a Detroit Pistons I'm a Detroit Pistons fan right
And if you ask me like my heart of heart Azele is Isaiah Thomas is my goat like Isle Thomas is that to me
But I'm not stupid
I watch Michael Jordan play
right
watching the player
against them
same pistons
right
he was killing
and he took over
my squad
and I had to
I had to
I
okay
I see it
well the NBA
the NBA did that
but no
but he
he contributed
like he
he contributed to it
but
it was just something
that the league
and basketball
people
had never seen
in Michael Jordan
right
and this is the same
thing
I see what you
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
That's the only thing I'm saying.
It's the same thing.
Yeah.
We've never seen this.
But, like, though you feel he feel like he got to do more than just the easy,
playing with kids, throwing up, I'm dunking on you.
That's what your idea.
I do this better.
One drum, pull up.
I jump higher than y'all.
I'm more athletic y'all, so I'm just going to do it.
The same thing, Winby.
I'm taller than y'all.
I'm more athletic of y'all, and I should have.
Throw this bitch up by this square.
Can't nobody get to it.
It's on.
Because when you can really want to be taller.
Off the verdict.
And that's, off the verb.
Nobody tall.
Ain't going to be nobody taller that can do that.
Because once I put one of these with his arms up there, you got to gather.
Yeah.
Because I jump out of the foot.
From go to here to here, you got to gather.
The world is coming to an end.
You said get somebody taller.
There's taller players coming to a end.
His whole family.
He put an eight foot in the out there, the world coming to the end.
That's the O'Ratliff's boys, man.
So, I know you're watching the game.
Spurs, bench, Wimmy for the four quarter to take on the Warriors' second night of
back to back tonight.
Wimby said in the agreement with the decision.
But should the spurs have let Wimby stay in the game,
Try I get a 50 piece.
Yes.
I always believe in you have to seize the moment.
Yeah, right.
You never know when it's going to come.
Yeah, you never know when it's going to come again.
Like if all the lights are green, go.
Yeah.
Right?
Go.
There's going to be so many times where everything is cooking in your favor, right?
You ain't rushing for the first time you woke up.
The meal tastes good.
The coffee girl smiled at you.
All the lights is green.
You just sitting in.
You're chilling, right?
Your favorite parking space is right there.
Your boss ain't there, so you get to scoff.
That was that night, so you got to let him go for it.
Yeah, so you ain't got guys on the bench.
So this is the way he used to go, right?
You got somebody on the bench like a Chuck Eackens or a vet or somebody that would,
hey, man, don't you guard him?
Yep.
They can't guard the night.
Don't you, like, put him back in, man.
Like, don't you guard him.
For sure.
Tell the coach, because you, hey, he's playing defense on him right now.
You put in my third.
They can't play defense on him.
So why are you playing defense on him?
For sure.
Let that man seize the moment, right?
Let him go.
Because he even got 70 put on him.
70.
He did.
And did that person care?
No.
Hell no.
Obviously, Wemby,
minis restriction, injury, concerns,
all that stuff.
This game, but it's only 20.
So something bad did happen.
We would be on the right.
He was going to happen.
And he's on minister restriction, right?
You know what?
No, no, he's lifted.
He's playing more, but he's only average in about 29 this game.
They've been very cautious with,
okay, let him get his other three minutes in.
Yeah, I got to agree then.
Yeah, I got to agree.
Because then you're going into Golden State and they down too.
Yeah, it could be 50, 50, 50.
Yeah, he could have went forward.
Heading into All-Star weekend to build some excitement and anticipation.
What's talking about?
How much they was winning by, you?
40 and 28 minutes.
You're sitting here like, what's the record?
Yeah.
Oh.
Let him go for it, man.
Go get 50.
I'm going to keep you into you go, what, force feed him to get this 50.
Because the way he had to go on.
You got three more minutes.
Because he had to go.
Three more minutes, you're going to get 50.
To get 10 points.
Once you get that, all right.
All right, we're going to start off the fourth quarter.
You'll see where you're at.
Yeah, go try to get 60.
Let me see where you at.
Nah, nah.
That's how it always done.
I don't give a fuck.
When has that ever?
When has that ever happened?
When has that ever happened?
Bro, you're up 30 and you still trying to get 60.
So what if you're down?
So Devon Boy was down and got his 70.
Yeah, that's different.
I'm just asking.
No it ain't.
You still playing.
Oh, it ain't.
Man, y'all have been talking about it.
We've seen people trying to get their 40s.
Hey, should have played the starters.
Damn.
But then we say we want people to start playing until the end?
Yeah.
Like, I don't like the idea of this.
You keep him in and you say this dumb shit.
It's right, no offense, because you said it.
What if he gets hurt?
Is that how you're coaching?
You're coaching.
So he can play.
In the game 28 minutes to score 40, but an extra three, oh, he might get hurt in those three minutes.
I'm going to look bad.
Like, well, that's not how you play the game.
I go out there and do you.
Like, you're thinking about injuries.
Then you might as well not even play him then.
Yeah, I don't like Coach.
When somebody got it going like that, man, don't get for what they up, what you're down.
Who's playing?
When he got it going like that, stop him.
Like, that's my whole thing.
Hey, play some defense.
That's in L.A.
He got 10 more points.
He already did.
Then 40.
I'm not going to stop him for 10 because you're feeling bad.
It could happen again, though.
It's good.
But get it, get it.
Get it.
It's LA.
It's Hollywood.
It's 30.
In the 90.
What I'm saying is get it.
No, say he would have got hurt, then he would have got killed.
The people would have to kill the coach.
Same shit with Tibbs.
Tips can't let that down from D. Rose.
What?
Yeah.
He can't let it down.
Yeah.
Tills, top, whatever, tip below.
Tip below.
He can't let.
That's going to be a black eye on this fucking coaching shit forever.
So what does that happen?
He did not change his approach those words.
He didn't.
You got a road?
He can't work.
You think that bothers that man.
But that's what I'm saying.
Stuff like that does happen.
All right, well, Luca, Luca, hey, remember our coaches, hey, we have a whole bunch of age.
55.
You know what I mean?
When he was doing the Luca trying to get the 60 and Lucas missed the free throws.
And here, he tried to look, one more play.
One more play.
Yeah, I can see three minutes for show.
But not leaving them in.
Just three more men.
Not to get 60.
No, just 50.
The 50 was cool.
I agree with the 50.
She's right there.
That's what I'm saying.
Y'all won't be going to go get his career high.
Whatever.
Yeah, that's what I'm going to get his career high.
Right now.
So I don't let me go get it.
You all want to, y'all want me to coach it then.
Everybody's going to hire their career every night.
You got how much you got?
You got zero.
Get your bucket.
Go get your bucket.
Go get you a bucket.
Go get you.
You get your bucket.
You get your two.
You already got you.
Get your phone.
That's how I play the game, man.
I want everybody to be happy, man.
Like I mentioned, all five Lakers starters were out for this game,
including LeBron Jane.
Why you put him in?
So LeBron missed his 18th game this season,
which means he will be ineligible for postseason awards,
ending his NBA record streak of 21 straight all NBA selections.
So let's take a look where that ranks all-time.
LeBron, 21 straight.
Next-in-line.
Kobe at 15, Carl Malone at 14,
Tim Duncan and Shaq, both tied at 13.
So Brown making history by a very, very wide margin.
Also holds a record for most consecutive,
first-team all-N-B-A selections with 13 straight.
So this is the first time LeBron will not be on an all-N-B-A team since 2004.
Gil, you and LeBron both made your first all-N-BA team in 2005.
And you ain't hooped in a minute because you've been here on this couch
with us doing Gil's arena presented by Underdog Woo-Woo.
Woo-W.
How impressive was LeBron streak of 21 straight all-N-BA selection?
I had three straight, and that was amazing.
You guys were neck-in-neck.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It was three good ones, too.
I was like, who, who.
21.
I mean, it just shows the discipline of a player's mindset.
Everybody on that list, right?
You're talking about, look who they are.
Look what the list is.
You're talking about, you know, arguably the greatest players that ever played this game
is because they have a mindset when they're going in that they're competing against this.
Right, they're competing against the legends of the NBA.
The people that they're playing against right now is irrelevant to them, right?
When Colb was in a league, he was playing against MJ.
He's trying to break MJ's stuff, which means everybody who was guarding him, his peers didn't matter.
When LeBron came in, same thing.
He's chasing these two people.
So, you know, if you put your mindset to what they did, like, these are the records I want.
It keeps you focused on a goal.
So that means you're never satisfied in real time.
I'm not satisfied with an all-star.
Not all-MBA, because that list,
is that list is history.
And if I can even just chase the dream of that, right, chase it.
If I just chase it and I'm focused on it,
when it's all said and done, I'm possibly in there
or at least I'm close.
And that's what a career is.
So, Mr. Bion, you look at just that longevity,
21 straight seasons, like I mentioned,
from 2005 to 2025, making an all-NBA team.
How impressive is that for LeBron in his resume?
I mean, it's unbelievable.
It's insane.
To be in the top 15 for 21 straight years of your career,
just speaks to the level of how you take care of your body
and how you approach the game.
You know, he did it in three different errors.
You know, thank God, and I think what, 1988, they added the third team.
I think, right, they added the third, all NBA team, 1988.
And yeah, it would have stopped in 2018, 19, but, you know, thank God for that.
they added that so but yeah man long long that was the first season that they 88 was the last
season they did two teams 89 yeah 88 89 so yeah you're right yeah something like that is kind
of hard to too too with the past with the past as they some of those guys only got would have made
would have made so yeah but yeah no it's impressive man I mean salute it's crazy that you would
only celebrate the top 10 guys in the league in the league back then back then oh yeah
Because how was the All-Star game was?
It was the same thing, the All-N-A teams.
So this is why a lot of people kind of, the Zeke part, right,
where he didn't make an all-N-B-A team after 88?
I think it was after 88.
But he was one of the best players in the league
because the third team didn't exist.
So there's all NBA's that was his
because he was the second or third best guard in the league.
Some say first, but because of the record, it kind of put him at third sometime.
He had magic.
87 last year he made an all-N-B-A team.
He was second-team all-N-A that year.
Second-te-team all-N-A.
Right?
Because you got magic for gossip.
Before he won two back-to-back championships.
So when he won the two championships, he's not, he's not an all-em-M-A.
He wasn't an all-M-B-A.
But he wasn't an all-M-A.
So who made it all-M-B-A-off from besides magic?
It should probably magic and...
MJ.
MJ, yeah.
And there's the guards.
But he was a point-guard.
No.
So first team, second team.
So Magic MJ Clyde director John Stockton in 88.
John Stockton.
89.
He was John Stockton again.
John Stockton again.
But then Dale Ellis, Mark Price made the third team that year in 89.
Leading the league and assists.
So you're going by that.
He's leading the league and assist every year.
Damn there.
It was different back then.
John Stockton and Magic leading the league and assists every year.
And Mark Jackson.
Then Joe Dumars got it in 1990.
His team, they got it.
team both of those things.
What is it to put in?
88?
88 and 9.
No, when he won, that's what I'm saying.
The two years he won the championship, they didn't have them all NBA.
But that's what I'm saying.
They was winning, so how do you put?
Top guard in the league?
Crazy.
Yeah.
Just different back then.
Different time.
But thank God they put that third team in.
Yeah.
No, to Gil's point, right, it helps guys' legacy, right?
Yeah.
It helps their, their, hell, case for all.
their case for all the fames and things that they need.
The newest generation.
Well, shit, I mean, but that's what I said.
History is not what history is supposed to be because, like,
80s didn't have the third team, right?
But then if you go to 50s and 60s,
they had the same amount of all-star slots,
but they only had 80, 90 people in the league.
You know what I mean?
So if you was a starting guard,
If you were a starter, if you were a starter, you should have made the All-Star game.
It would have been hard to not make the All-Star game because it was still 24 spots, but there's only eight teams.
They were going to record park.
Hey, you know what I mean?
So you have six and seven men making the All-Star game on the winning team.
Your team was in first, and then let me put the whole goddamn thing.
They got to play the last.
They get that team shit out there.
Put the four teams
I'm going to play this all-star game
real bad
Four starters
And one do
From another team
Like
He average
How many 13s
They said fuck on this team
They said
How many 13s LeBron
Make
Let me pull it up for you
That's more impressive
I think
I think
2018
Oh because you wouldn't
Would you not count those
From the two teams
On it's on 80s
Four
third team selections
Four of them
Yeah
Oh
Four of the 21
So 13 first team
Four second team
four second team, four 13.
But...
No, that's oppressing, though.
21 of them shit, be doing that?
Let's age it down a little bit. One last thing from this game.
Brony, one of the...
Go ahead.
Yes, sir, King.
We don't need to talk about this game.
Oh, no, not the game.
It was a Bronny game.
That was a Bronny game.
We ever talked Bronny in a long time,
as mandated and stipulated by our contract.
Because he didn't mean played.
I thought he went back for school.
Stupid.
I'm just playing, Brian.
I don't want to get shot with a needle.
Yeah, thank you.
Bronny wanted a few bright spots for the Lakers in the blowout loss.
Let's take a look at some Bronny highlights if we can't chat.
It's been a while since we talked, Brownie, so deal with it.
The younger Bronn played a season high, 25 minutes.
Came through with a season high, 12 points on 5 of 10 shooting, 10 shots and 25 minutes.
I know you're impressed by that.
10 shots, yeah.
Hit both his three-point attempts.
Also, led the team with six assists.
It was a real game for Brani.
I don't care what the score is.
Locked up Wimby on one possession.
Of course this is a program.
He locked him.
Damn.
He ain't in it with Winby.
What?
I said it's a real game.
I mean, it looks like there's defense out there.
Oh, it's USC.
He went to USC.
Whoever it is.
Whoever it is.
Both probably did not graduate,
as is the case.
But Brony,
playing solid as of late Brony.
Oh, he missed that?
Seven point.
It had to be Van.
Van.
No, no, everyone what?
Seven points.
Two assists in his last four games.
Oh, beating shit.
Kelly O'Lennick.
They're a blunt?
That's up a lot.
Nah.
What I'm about the same.
Brony time, man.
Watch it on the other side.
Oh.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Uh-huh.
Looking good.
So, Brian, like I said, last four games,
I averaged seven points, two assists,
shooting 58% from the field,
80% from three,
playing 11 minutes per game.
Yeah, we put this in here just for you.
All-Star Week here in Los Angeles.
You know, Brownie looking more comfortable on the court in year two.
I mean, I can't say he's looking more comfortable because we haven't really got to see, you know, much of them.
You're not really talking doing this.
Huh?
You're not really doing this right now.
Why, you're 12 and 6?
Really?
No, so let's just, we just, we just.
Just minutes as minutes.
It's like, I just, like, for you to get experience, for you to be more comfortable on the court, you got to be on the court.
Right?
That's just, I don't get fucking.
How many years you've been in the league or your age.
Time is time.
So, you know, there can be more games like this where he can go out there.
Because, you know, just like any bench guy, right?
Those first five minutes, man, you don't set the first half, you got a little warm up.
You probably didn't even warm up because obviously you ain't getting in the game.
Those first five minutes, you're trying to get warmed, trying to get your shit under you.
Right?
So unless you're just a fire started, I can come in a game, two minutes into the game and get, you know, you're a microwave.
Most players, those first five minutes of the game, man, they're not going to perform.
So you need games where, you know, you're getting comfortable, right?
The longer he's in, he's making smarter decisions.
He's taking smarter shots the longer he stays.
It's not like he's getting worse, the longer he's.
he plays.
So if you look at any time he got big minutes,
he actually played decent.
You know?
Don't know.
I mean,
I can't tell you if he's ready or not ready,
like to have big minutes.
Are you seeing improvement, though,
from where,
I mean,
obviously, we talked about a lot during his rookie season.
Did not look ready.
Did not look ready.
Did not look ready.
Did not look ready?
Like, because all you're going to do,
what are you going to show me?
You're going to show me his shooting percentage, right?
Is that a percentage?
He comes in the game two minutes
He takes a shot and misses a three.
Right, then that's game one.
Game two comes in, 30 seconds left.
He takes a shot.
That's 0 and 2.
Right?
That people really, like, so when people look at it,
they're not looking at how you got 0 in 10, right?
So you can look at somebody and be like, oh, shit, he's 0 in 10.
He ain't a shooter.
No, every time he got in the game with one minute left, he just took a shot.
You know what I mean?
You're getting a grenade shot.
You're taking it, so you don't know what it can do.
Yeah.
So he ain't got enough game film, man, for nobody.
Was that?
That was him catching that lot?
No.
No.
He's through it.
This is the thing, Joe.
You can't do it when he play,
because you're not going to do it if he played well.
I mean, play bad.
We've talked to him when he's played bad.
No, no, no, you haven't, Joe.
We've been not going to do it.
So we're not going to do this.
Like, let's keep, you don't have enough stuff on film for us to critique him.
Congratulations, he got some minutes.
It's cool, but we're not going to do this every time the young man gets in the game.
Ronnie?
35 games in between each one, like, gets minutes.
Like, we're not going to do that, Joe.
They ain't fact.
Fail.
35 minutes, okay.
Okay, because then nobody else's played, Joe.
When everybody else is playing, he's not playing.
But he got his opportunity.
He did, and he capitalized on it.
So he let him do that, and let's not put,
and don't need to put a spotlight on it,
because now you give room for people to, when he don't play well,
for people to talk shit.
So, that's fair.
That's fair.
That's time to get 25 minutes, and he go out there muffing,
and go one for 13.
six turnovers and all that.
I'm gonna be like, oh, he was aggressive.
You were, right?
Yeah, he was aggressive.
You would.
You would find the silver lining in that.
Yes, but most people don't.
Yeah, I'm not.
So let's...
Well, as we know, most people are haters,
the people who are in all the NBA teams,
and people still say he sucks,
so it's not like...
Yeah, they're just haters, but the kid ain't got...
He's a one enough championship.
He ain't got enough film for us to critique.
That's all.
As a dad, he's getting better, he's a certain.
As a dad, just seeing your son scored on points,
did that make you feel good?
That again?
Just saying?
As a dad just, yeah.
Any point, any point.
That's what I'm saying.
It doesn't matter about the dad and son.
Of course, he won whatever.
Anything he's doing like that.
He's four points.
He's good.
He looked good.
That's all the game.
That's different.
I'm talking about the me, like far as the me, the way the media is.
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
Let's, because he don't have enough things to critique.
He got 25 minutes.
He played with him 25 minutes.
Okay, cool.
Let's not show all fucking 12 points.
Right?
We had to give context, can he?
No, just, he played well.
12 and 6 in his minutes.
That's all you had this.
But you said there wasn't enough tape.
So you gave him what he shot from the field, all that.
You don't need to give all that.
Listen, Brunty had 25 minutes.
He had 12 and 6.
That sounds much better than...
Five minutes from the field, two for two for four.
I'm saying?
For Brun?
I just want to just...
Yeah, he got 10 shots.
Get a half.
Yeah, I mean, I also want just a little thing.
Like, Luke Conard.
Fuck him.
You didn't see what Luke Conard look like.
No, no, I'll take...
I'll promise you.
No, I'll take...
No, no, no, I'll take Luke Connard.
Like, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
I just...
I was...
You like Lou Canard?
Than what we had before?
Yeah.
Then what we had before?
Luke Conard is an all-star
compared to what we had before.
Like, I'm sorry.
Like, you know what?
I'm just be honest with it.
This is good for...
Like, I was thinking we was about to get some, like,
we was about to get real stuff,
so my mind was here.
Uh-huh.
Right?
I was here with it.
Like fillets right here, Waggoo.
You called him Tofugua.
They brought me some free-range chicken.
No boost.
I wasn't in chickens.
I wasn't in chicken, so I threw it out the, now I'm hungry.
I like Luke.
Chicken good.
The chicken real good.
You said you wanted eight five Waggri, when you compare canard to tofu, now he's saying he's free-range chicken.
Yeah, I like food range chicken.
He's free-ranged chicken.
I like chicken.
I like chicken, too.
I do, so, yeah, my bad.
You might buy them damn birds on tins on a stick.
Like, don't give me wrong, this is good for Brian his confidence, don't know.
Great for his confidence, but that's not.
I don't want people picking holes at, I'm saying when he play good, when he's
paid bad when he plays.
That's all right.
Well, as you know, rent was due, so we had a-
I did.
I got to get your clutch check.
I want to get your truck.
What's the last week?
You're trying to get to the clutches.
You're trying to get into the function, damn.
You're trying to go to the clutch party.
I get it.
That is the general pop list.
It's a fucking VIP.
Maybe two months, I think I can play on the Lakers.
Two months?
On with, like, Southback?
They said you'd be at high yoga.
Hey, right, right.
I'm just being honest with you, Nick Boussa.
No.
I'm going to be honest with you.
I can do that shit.
All right, I'm going to be honest with you.
Oh, for real, man.
Don't be honest.
Take you like Bonnie.
I'm going to choose your, okay, look.
Keep me like Bonnie.
All right.
Okay, we do have a, we have.
I can do.
Better Bill.
We have Keyble on the team.
We have Bucking.
Who?
Kobe Buffett.
Yeah, we got a whole bunch of people right there.
You can probably, yeah.
For sure.
Hey, why did all five sit?
Hmm?
All five.
Me and Brandon.
You're going to try out, bro.
All right.
Four maybe.
I can try.
I can try.
I can try.
I can't.
I can try.
I can't.
Okay, Luca.
Austin Reed's injury men.
Okay.
Bron, O.
Okay.
Now, see, that's what I'm talking.
Bohemian.
Hold on no.
That's what I'm talking about.
Why he?
You ain't done enough here to have vacation time.
Right?
Because I can tell you, I'm just going to be honest with you, sir.
When the playoff comes, Timmy is going to be in that lineup.
Timmy going to get the minutes.
Timmy is a smart-ass basketball player.
He understands basketball spacing.
And you should be worried.
I'm just going to be honest.
Who are you speaking to?
DeAndrehead?
Yes.
June.
Mm-hmm.
I think of that.
Hey, he went to Godzegra, right?
Yes, he did.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, that motherfucker, nice.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
In college, he's right.
There's, like, little plays he does.
For sure.
Right.
Luca driving, he understands how to get out the way
or set the little screen so he can hit the lane.
Instead of A.
He's just sitting here, just looking dumb.
Yeah, and Drew Timmy.
I'm telling you, hey, listen, I'm telling you,
okay.
That was a nice pickup.
All right.
All right.
Oh, he's talking about Jaden?
I thought you were talking about Isaac Hayes.
He's talking about Aiden somewhere.
It is Valentine's Week.
He's trying to get him alone.
He's trying to get his all-stores.
He's trying to get his work.
He's lined up.
He got his work on the weekend going on.
He flew them all out.
Hollywood.
He up in the mills.
He ain't came down yet.
Man.
He had a team.
He had a team mate.
All right weekends coming.
They're telling you about, like, the vacation they go on.
And you're looking at like, bro, you don't need vacation.
You need to be in a gym.
Yes, yes.
Like, your vacation should be here, dog.
Like, he is.
Like, vacation has been all season for you.
It's what you've been doing?
We go to Atlanta, nigga, you at that club?
You're going to getting bottle service.
We go to Miami, you win that club?
Like, basketball was the last thing you were thinking about, bro.
You got to get the shut up.
You got to get your work in.
That's right.
Some people who don't need certain logos across the States.
Oh, you be sitting there.
Like, duh, Lakers?
We have a lot of them.
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if they can see you in there.
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
Open the laptop.
All right.
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After much speculation and debate here on Gills Rainer
and presented by underdog, who-whoop.
The league finally announced a thing.
suspensions for the malice in the Hornets Palace.
Let's take a look at one way down.
So Shams broke the news.
Isaiah Stewart.
Oh, seven games?
Isaiah Stewart was suspended for seven games for leaving the bench area and fighting with
Miles Bridges.
And a statement the league said the length of Stewart's suspension was based in part on his
repeated history of unsportsman-like acts.
With this being the four-time beef stew has been suspended for fighting.
League also suspended Miles Bridges and Musa Diabate, four games each for fighting and
escalating their altercation while Jalen Dernan.
was suspended two games for initiating the altercation and fighting.
So for context, here is a video recap of the bro.
Just so we can remind ourselves exactly one way down.
Damn.
In slow-mo.
King Kong.
So hard foul by Diabot.
Can't play post-D with your chest, dog.
They get into each other's face, headbutt, almost kiss.
Ooh, mushes him.
Diabate.
It's Valentine's week, ladies and gentlemen.
Diabate swings multiple times.
Very janky swings, though.
He wasn't trying to hit him.
I looked at him.
He was trying to hear.
Neither one of them like,
they've been doing this since high school.
Hold me back.
Miles Bridges, also very weak swing.
And then Isaiah Stewart.
Stu came in, though, headlock,
relishing the moment, leaving the bench.
Look at Dougger, Robert.
I thought he had him in a hair lock.
He didn't have a head lock.
And he got to scoop.
He had his hair.
A hair lock.
Yeah, he had him in hair.
He had his hair.
He had his hair.
So that's a girl fan.
A girl fight.
Bam, bang, bam, bam, bam.
Boob, boob, boom, boom, boom, bam.
Hey, and what you get for grabbing people doing a fist fight?
Like, dude, that's shit weird to me, man.
Which one?
Like, just, period.
Overall, right?
We're in a fist fight and you're trying to wrestle.
It gets you to ground.
Why?
It was a fist fight.
No.
It could be.
That's what it's true.
Or I can wrestle.
So you want to wrestle.
So you should say, let's wrestle, let's not fight.
I mean, some people fight just fighting.
I didn't know there was dialogue like that.
If you want to fight somebody, he might be,
so I could take a shirt off and all right.
Let's wrestle.
But, no, if you go like this, I know you don't aim for my face.
That's a fight.
That's a fight.
Yeah, you get a little.
Pick them up.
Then you get on top.
I mean, the chances, how many times that didn't happen?
Which one?
How many times have he fought, though?
That's the thing.
I don't know if y'all know the difference between wrestling and fighting.
Yeah, it's...
If I'm already on the ground, I can't fall on the ground.
Right, you know what I mean?
You can put me to sleep, I can go to sleep right there.
Okay.
You hit me and I go to sleep.
That's the, I'm going down.
Yeah.
Teeth broke all that.
Yeah, I'd rather get down there myself.
Yeah, I just thought about it further.
Yeah, why don't grab me in a fist fight, but that's shit weak.
Look, Chris Haynes, during suspension will not affect his participation in the All-Star game this weekend, just by Josh you know?
Yeah.
Who?
Oh, yeah.
He shouldn't.
Because he didn't ask you.
Gentlemen, what's your reaction to the league suspensions for the Malice in the Hornets Palace?
David Stern rolling over in his grave right.
Nick and them was right.
No, Nick and them.
I was right.
Nick and Rashad was right.
No.
No, no, no.
It was my AI intelligence.
He said six games.
In my head.
Six.
I said 10 to 25.
And he said three.
Three.
Three games.
He said three games?
Three.
He said three games.
I thought they were in Cahooleu's
No, they was in Cahoust
to talk about the 25. His number
was three because he said, Dremont got five.
Okay, I listened to it all this morning.
Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.
All this morning, I was waiting
for him. Okay, oh, that's what he thought
he's gonna be. He said, he was a, so he called me
this morning too much. It was a, it was,
he said, because Dremont got five for choking someone
because he never got hit.
One, one on the court, then he should be
two, so he said three. Oh. So that was a
number. Okay. Shug said five to 10. Yeah. Shout out to Shud, right? For Durran. Yeah, he said for
doing that. He said for doing that. He said, he said, they don't get the death penalty.
I just, for me, I just like being right all the time. And I usually, yeah, does.
Tombstone's in the table. I had to give my, like I did, I did what Shug did. I got a, I got a bottom 10 and 25. Yeah, I just thought he was going to get. But, like I said,
I said, it's from what I thought the league was trying to implement.
So to deter this behavior further, this didn't do that.
You was right.
You was right if they took the bet, though.
So you said, you said bet your eyebrow.
It'll get more than six games.
He'll get more to six games.
Yeah, that was the thing.
So you did say.
That was the bet.
The bet, no, no, no, his bet was, his bet your eyebrows.
Can't even write it?
Yeah.
More than six.
And he said, oh, no, you said 25.
Yeah, I said, no.
So the thing is, it got nothing to do with you.
You was right.
Okay, okay, don't take this from me.
No, you.
Don't take this from me.
He said, he's not taking this from me.
You were right on point with your point.
Yeah, you was one of the part.
No, when he.
I'm thinking because of the person.
When he made the bet, he said, I bet it more than six.
And Rashad said, nah, it ain't 20, it ain't 25.
I'm thinking because of who it is, I think because of who it is,
three other situations, how his anger has been displayed in those moments.
Yeah.
I was thinking he was going to get maximum, but this is, hey, that's it.
Wouldn't have been Dave Stearns, NBA, I can tell you that shit.
He can walk in all that.
Well, I had 10.
You can have 10.
I'm going to let you have it.
What did I say?
I said 10 to 25.
I said 10 is 25.
I said, you want to credit him.
Lou Poh, Gil gave himself a friend.
No, no, no, I'm not going to let him get out this because I won.
I said 10 to 25.
So 10, bottom in, high.
So I'm three away.
I'm three away.
I went all the way in.
The person that said there is four away.
Three, four.
I went all in.
It's awesome.
This is Price is right style.
So if you go over the number, you're actually.
I was wrong.
Oh, that's it?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I was way over.
You know how it works?
Yeah.
Hey, I got 90 on the first spin and 90 on the second spin.
I was waiting.
Hey, loser.
If you go over?
Hey, loser.
I don't watch Price.
I don't feel the loser.
You're, I don't get about a loser.
So fighting today ain't that bad.
It ain't that bad.
I can lose you.
Yeah, so I'm just sitting here thinking about that.
Like, so you might as well get to it.
I mean, so you might as well just fight to it.
I mean, it ain't that bad.
You might as well get to it.
That's not fight.
Come on, man.
No, no, I'm just saying, but to be able to run on the court,
do what you got to do.
That's a one game suspicion.
I mean, shit.
No.
He would.
You fight on the floor?
You only get into two games?
No, no, that's what I'm saying.
Like, he's not fighting.
No.
Well, that ain't nothing.
Or during that.
Just period.
Just overall.
Just everybody.
Just overall throughout the league.
Like, fighting ain't a 10, eight of five.
Two games.
So you get won two games and you won.
No, I'm pretty sure it goes off of actual hits too.
Yeah.
You think, yeah.
Huh?
You hit somebody knocking him out.
Oh, no, there ain't no two games.
Ain't no two games.
Why not?
A body drop hit the flow?
What's the difference?
Like a connect like somebody that bye and you boom oh yeah I I yeah I don't know
That's gonna be good for Raiders
You know what it's gonna be great for Rayton
But why?
Alright you can fight back then
I mean Rudy died on the floor
He got up but he but I'm saying it back then
Rudy didn't play another basketball
I didn't like cool like they didn't really have penalties like that
Look that man face
But all right I got a question so why can
other sports fight and we the only sport that can't though like they can't fight they
fight they fight they kick you out baseball they'll get suspended for six games
five games okay you get a soap cards you can't play the next game baseball you get hit by the
pitcher you run and chase them down knock them out you get suspended one of the game don't get
25 oh they just they will run out they play they play they play a hundred games
like nobody get more criticized than basketball
You know why?
It's because we see it.
Because we use, so soccer, you can fight all you want
because they use their feet.
They feed.
They use their feet.
They don't need this.
Why would you want to do something to the thing that make you money?
That make you money too, your legs.
They're not fighting with their feet.
They fight with their hands.
They don't matter.
Huh?
It do matter.
The only sport that is a, that is.
If a soccer player is, if a soccer player is, if they're playing it.
Like, in baseball, that whole group, the whole team coming, they fight.
Cool. You can hurt your wrist and still be outfieling.
And nobody can criticize for it.
They get suspended.
But they don't get the max penalty, 25 games.
We don't know around the pawn.
But we don't know, though.
We do know.
We don't know.
We don't hear about it.
You know about baseball players fight, right?
You know why baseball players fight, right?
You hit me with the ball.
I'm fucking right.
You didn't threw this bitch by me one too.
Hit me or you didn't throw this mother.
But that's the same thing again.
But that's the same thing again.
Hit me by all right.
But baseball, there's rules, right?
If they hit a player, depending on who it is,
like, say you being Shoah, well, I got to be in your best player
with your robot, and they just know it's good.
But if everybody runs out, you know, you have to run out.
Pedro Martinez.
Everybody runs out.
Everybody has a gang shit.
Yeah.
Pedro got this thing I heard when they was playing the Yankees.
He's going after Jeter.
He's going after your guys.
Because one of his guys got hit.
But say that happened.
And they're fighting.
You down there suspended for the whole season.
You should be.
Hey, he slammed the coach head first.
That's
Oh, lady's old ass
Fly, old man,
Run out of you.
Bro, get done it up on the guy!
But what happened to him?
What happened to him?
They all got to spend it.
But something like that happened,
you're done.
Like, you're done in the league.
Baseball, okay.
Have you ever seen a baseball player?
But they make millions of dollars.
Have you seen a baseball player?
Just for a billion dollars on them?
The pitcher.
Yeah.
What type of mannerisms do the pitcher have?
You think he is in fight mode?
Yes.
You think he can fight?
No, no.
Ryan.
Yeah, I mean,
They were all built like bustles.
Robin Ventura ran his ass out there.
They got beat the fuck up.
They was all doing, ha! Let's go!
Like, I mean, now, I mean, put Robert Ventura in the motherfucker, headlocking, wore his ass out.
Needles in the tutu.
Like, you know.
I mean, just think about us as NBA players on that court.
Who going to stop us if we just getting on the bra on that court?
Like the coaches, like, you see how they was running through them coaches?
The most NBA players, Mike here, I'm watching that video.
I'm watching a lot of phantom janky punches.
No, the new NBA, no, these dudes ain't.
grow up fight, man. But I don't want
to fight. Like, I didn't come in in a game of the fight.
Like, you got to think about it.
Like, yeah, I know. You can tell
he had to fight it too. Like, he ain't got no problem. Miles
Breed it from Detroit. My idea is not to fight. Certain guys
from certain areas grew up in certain environments.
Even in the younger generation, they grew up in certain about, they
have been susceptible to fist fights.
They want hands, though. The masses
of the guys in NBA right now, if you
ask me if they've ever been in a physical
alter of a fist fight, I'm guaranteed
the answer's no.
85% of me
ain't never been in the fight.
No, for sure.
I mean, there's no need to, though.
And, and
I made my money
with my hands.
You're right, absolutely.
No, 1,000%.
So it's different.
They ain't going,
direct center they're going to.
You just see that.
You just see it now.
Now that you're looking at this.
Do that look like 25 games?
Now that you're looking at it.
Just look at it.
Just look at it.
Video game.
Yeah.
They ain't slapboxing that lead the fight.
They ain't playing hot.
They ain't playing.
None of that hot.
Go get it.
You get a girl and they bad.
Slept boxing and leave the fight.
No, no.
Yeah, I'm just, for sure, you're sure.
Yeah, yeah.
For sure, you slam me my face, huh?
You slap me too hard, you slam me too hard.
I'm trying to.
They ain't playing hot.
Fighting like you.
Like, if you were shooting like Shea and all that,
they're not trying to punch the thing.
Who was the kid from Minnesota?
I forgot.
It might be, it might be Daniels, I'm not sure.
in the playoff game, got mad,
punched the wall, broke his hand.
Or messed his hand.
I'm coming play no more.
Who is that?
That was in the playoff game probably
with two playoffs.
Oh, I remember that.
Was it MacDain?
Was it MacDain?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, you know what I mean?
Like, that's...
Yeah, that's stupid.
That effect, this affects your soul.
No.
But looking now at this whole situation,
do that really look like 25 games to y'all?
But you're, it's coming on,
it's, the fact that he ran on.
It's running on court.
That's all I'm saying.
I know, but he still was pushing like help.
Okay, you're not allowed to come on.
Yeah, that's the whole thing.
What's his argument?
That's my whole thing.
Not the fight itself.
I know, but 20, coming off the bitch,
he can be 25 games, though.
Huh?
Coming off the bench to help the teammates shouldn't be 25 games.
That's what I'm saying.
But that's what David Stern put in.
Yeah.
He put in because of the Detroit,
you got to remember, we're coming from the Detroit Pist and stuff.
So the rule,
the rule,
back then where everything was,
you was getting suspended if you threw
anything in the crowd.
Headband anything.
Like you get ejected, right?
And you throw your headband in the crowd.
They're going to...
Three to five games.
Yeah, they're going to, yeah.
So they put these harsh penalties on you
so you wouldn't do it.
You know who got away with that?
You see, what...
He was on now.
I had to call the league to say,
hey, I threw my jersey in the crowd.
Can I shit throw my jersey?
Yeah.
And they proved it, yeah.
Not after you get kicked out, though.
Or if you get ejected,
No, they said, long as you're throwing it, not in an angry manner.
No, that was the...
That long as it's not in an angry manner, you can throw it.
It gave me my two.
You're going to go.
No, they gave me my two texts during the game.
They got more, and I had a headband, right?
Sweaty.
I threw that motherfucking nigga and sweat with just.
I saw it.
I was like, ooh.
People like this, you're talking.
Damn.
It was not the actual fight.
It was more coming out of the work.
Because they say the people who are coming.
on the court is kind of escalating it more.
And that was always the thing.
The person coming is more escalating than stopping it.
So I look back when David Sterling first was,
and Greg Anthony came off the bench in that fight.
Greg Anthony only got five games.
And this was like early 90s.
Early 90s.
Early 90s.
This was before the, so he got five games then.
So I'm thinking the escalation of time and situations throughout the league.
them trying to stop fighting on the floor and all that stuff.
I'm thinking of all of that.
That's why I'm thinking the match for him.
That big fight, Mello, was it Jared Jeffries, right?
Marty Collins.
What did all of them get?
Mello got 15.
15.
15.
Oh, because he connected, though.
But still, no, no, no, no, no.
Now, Melo dropped that.
15 was that.
What did it more than that?
He got, he didn't get that much.
J.R. got, I think J.R. got the second most.
Yes, he and him and they.
Him and Nate, J.R. Nate, got 10, right?
Mello 15, J.R. and Nate got 10.
Who did?
Codding.
He got, Marty.
So, Marty.
He got punked.
The nigg got dropped and got six games.
What I'm saying?
Right back.
The nigger get dropped and gets six games.
Mello did the right thing.
He dropped him and Jacked off.
Maybe like two?
Maybe like two.
Maybe that was before.
That's in the 90s.
All this stuff I'm talking about,
that's after the Detroit.
$5,000.
No, that was 2000. That was at the Staple Center.
That was Afro-Code.
Oh, yeah, so 2001?
Yeah, but it's just Mello got, Melo got 15, right?
And that's what I'm, and he was on the floor.
Plain when he didn't run on the bench, I'm running on the floor.
That punch, though, that punch.
So let's drop that in.
Fifty-four of you guys saying there should be more fighting based on what these two-
No, I think it should.
No, I'm saying, no, we're not saying it should be,
but I'm just saying, I mean, at this point, should be afraid to.
Yeah, I mean, I'm not afraid to fight.
I mean, I'm not going to get more than,
All four players were suspended without pay.
Here's a breakdown of how much bread.
Each will lose as a result of the spending.
And that owner paying that man money.
There you got Isaiah Stewart losing close to $1.
Yeah, that ain't nothing.
I did a million dollars.
Miles Greas was in close to $700.
That ain't.
During only losing 90, Diabate loses.
I see why, hey, you can keep going, God damn.
The owner is going to give him his money.
Who?
They're going to pay for his, that shit.
Who?
Who?
Cut him a check.
They love that.
Like, it's the reason why players like Isaiah Stewart become like fan favorites and stuff.
Just because of that's that right there.
You don't think I know that Nick?
But I'm saying, like, that's like people love to see intensity, like that fire, that fight.
Even from both teams.
Like, it's not a total punch, but like you're in the game.
Like, that's why I didn't feel like that was 25.
I'm telling you right now.
That's his job.
If I'm owning the team.
And I'm number one.
I don't care what you.
I'm paying him.
But you're paying him for that, though.
You paying him.
That's why I'm paying him.
Yeah, to be your enforcers.
So when he do enforcers shit.
I write the check.
So when he do enforcers, you got to step up for him.
That check comes.
So what's the fines come out of then, Giga?
That's a league.
Have you noticed we always ask for the fine money go?
Yeah, the other way it goes.
They're taking that out before you.
No.
The NBA's
The NBA take it out
They're coming out
The piston salary
Car around
It reduces their salary cap
I believe
Yeah, it reduces
Yeah, it reduces
It helps a gun
Yeah, where does it go?
Comes out of your check.
Yes, and I write your check.
Right.
So now I don't have to give you
the money so it helps me.
That's how it works.
Right, it's just a check
I don't write so my salary cap goes down
So this salary cap goes down by
$700,000.
So fine, it's already paid.
Who pays?
It's not affected.
Who paid it?
It's not a part of his salary cap.
Suspensions and fines are not.
They come out that man's check.
And who writes to check?
The league does.
No, they don't?
Dude.
No, they don't.
So.
Why you think they always argue, where's our money actually going on?
The owner gets to keep the money, your ass, get fined.
They don't go against his cap.
I mean, we saw Paul George gets suspended right recently in that.
They dropped his cap.
League.
Seven million.
But that's like 11 to 12.
That's what I said.
Everyone keeps their money.
So it's just I don't have the right to check.
Right, right.
But I'm supposed to say, as an owner, and my team gets suspended, and I like my guys.
Yeah, you might miss fifth games.
I'll pay you.
I'm still going to pay you a little bit.
That's what I'm saying.
For doing your job.
That's what I'm saying.
You know what I mean?
Like, that's what I said.
But that's the type of person I am.
Like, if you, if that's, I'm paying you to do that.
I'm going to give you something.
So he's supposed to make whatever he's supposed to make this year, right?
You still text.
on that. Yeah, that's the government.
The league don't know that. I'm saying? The league don't, that's what I'm saying.
Who? You think Adam Silver's looking at everybody's picture? How are you going to text me on 700,000 I didn't get?
Huh? What did you say? How are you going to tax me on 700,000 I didn't get?
Do you have to pay the tax on that several hundred that you did?
But that's what I said. That's something you ran with yourself. But when it comes to them checks and them fines, that's all team.
You help the team. You help the team. I want the NBA spends the guy. That helps the team out.
I knew that.
They don't have to write the-
They never knew that.
Never knew that.
That's why when people are like, yo, where does our fine when he go?
And I'm like, the team just stays.
It's not like they're gonna still write the chicken and goce or some pot.
They just don't write nothing.
So how about-
Just hear me out for a second.
So just when before the, with the drug policy thing, right, the way it was, right, with the weed thing, right?
The first time it was nothing.
The second time it was 25,000.
Right?
For the drug policy?
For the test.
Just hit me out.
Let's hear me out.
It's $25 grand.
You can write, this is not the team finding you.
This is the lead.
Right?
If you don't want, you can,
they can take the $25 out of your check.
Or you can write them a personal check
so the team don't find out
that you're in the system.
So that's,
Okay, okay, yeah
So who's writing, so where you're writing a check to?
To the league.
I don't know that.
You're writing the 25,000 to the league.
Mm.
I thought you.
So that's what I'm saying.
The league pays your check.
Your owner's name is on your check?
Yes.
No, but that's a, that's a league.
But what, so how, so the league can't, so
the way it was to avoid your team finding out
that you got fined 25,000 by the league.
You could write them a personal check.
So what...
Because it's a $25,000 coming out.
How does the lead take $25,000 out?
Because they go to the team and say,
and tell them why.
You owe, yeah, and they're telling me $25,000.
But they got to tell them why.
But they can't disclose that.
I ain't never think you can write a nigga check and say, oh, yeah.
They can't disclose that.
That's why you do it.
Okay, so that's why you do it, right?
So I'm with you.
So now...
Tell my team, please.
So that's blackmail, eh?
So at the end of the day, if it's a, if it's a, that's white male.
If it's a league fine, then that bill has to be paid somehow.
Either you have to write it or they go straight to the team.
So basically, but if the team asks why they find it 45,000.
This is a league fine.
Then you're, so there's going to say, yo, he owes 86,000.
Yes.
Okay.
Yes.
So then it goes to the league and that's how to this.
Team fines are one.
Team fines is what you hold.
That's what I'm, yeah.
So he's right, he's right, he's right.
I had to write the $25,000 check before.
I didn't want to make it out my check.
I didn't want him to take it out my check.
That ain't getting high.
If I was the piss, I love it.
I have just been saying shit, I mean, you're dirty.
Yeah, no, it was that.
So you entered the first time,
the second time, I went that motherfucker,
be like, yeah, I'm dirty.
I'm dirty.
All right, now it's going to be 25.
I'm going to tell your team.
You just not, we can take it out.
We can take it out your check or you can write us a check.
You want me?
You can pay me $25 and I'll make it clean.
Absolutely.
Yo.
Okay.
That's what it was.
That's what it was.
That's why.
That's more hustler shit, right?
That's so funny.
You pay me on the side and I can.
So basically all technicals and all that stuff that are fined in the game that's directly
to the lead and just the stuff like busing, missing the bus, missing the plane.
That's in-house.
Yes.
Okay, okay.
Yeah.
I'm about you say, because you owe me like $10,000.
Yeah, because you ain't
The team won't give you a technique
The team ain't go take you that thing
That's what I said
Because if it was like
You got to find these
I'm not fine at my own
Yeah I'm not finding my own
You did this to me
And I failed
And the team fined is
$15,000 from that
It's quite a person
You've said this year before
Right
We're on the subject
Just suspensions
And these things
Right
I got my fair share
For my actions
What I was doing
I earned all
Everyone I got
Maybe
One I can
Question
But most of my fucking earned.
Yeah, right?
Yeah.
And we knew the person we was dealing with.
And like your situation, you said on time and time again, like, the man gave you an ultimatum.
David Stern gave you an ultimatum, which was, if you take the suspension or I'll go out
the entirety of your contract.
Yeah.
To the average fan that don't understand where I was coming from with my thought process
and league and history and things and behaviors, I'm taking all of this into account.
The way the league has tried to clean itself up over the years from all the negative publicity,
fights and all of these things.
I knew Davis, I knew Davidson, Adam Silver's way of dealing with players and all that was different.
I knew that.
But I just thought certain things was non-negotiable with this, with maximum suspensions,
you run off the bench, things like that.
I just thought it was more to it that it would be, but he proved me wrong.
No, back, no.
Back then?
What was that even that?
No, during that time,
but remember, during that time, just like anything,
when they're trying to break a habit,
it's big penalty.
Yeah.
Right?
So you step one toe light.
You remember, they was,
when if something happened,
they had cameras on the line.
If you touched your toe on it,
suspended.
Right?
You stood up and went over.
But that's only one game, though.
But just imagine you just did this.
You just went like this,
and your toes on the line,
you got suspended for that.
I know.
It's going up in your shoe.
But that's just the touch the line.
But if you went out there and had a fight,
he was, he was, he was, like, bullying you on that.
Like, it was, there was no question.
Think about what he just said.
This is after Mello got 15.
A nigger got knocked out.
He got six.
That's, that's Lest.
You would have thought Mello got kicked out to leave for a year.
Like, then, like, the nigg was in the balance.
If you sock somebody and drop somebody in national TV, that's different than
what?
Fucking idea of stewardship.
He came off the bench,
meaning you're enticing,
you're enticing something
that's supposed to be ending.
That's the rule.
That's why they said don't come off the bench.
But there's never been 25,
what's the max somebody ever got
for just coming off the bench?
Coming off the bench, just no fighting?
Just toe on the line.
One, two games.
Yeah, the Maris started.
The Marys saw.
My thing.
Maris by all that.
That's what I was going off of.
But, but.
My AI intelligence was telling me what happened.
But what I'm saying is no one's ever got, no one's did what Isaiah has done.
Besides Greg Anthony and them back in the day life.
Back before, before, after the Detroit Pistons, no one's ever came off the bench and tried to fight.
Did I get a three?
But the most of the reason, basically, the rule was you come off that bench, you're going to get the worst of it.
What about spaghetti fight?
Because nobody seen what the worst of it.
Because nobody ever came off the bench, we just knew, because they said this, this was the rule.
This was the rule.
We know when a player comes off the bench.
It's automatic suspension.
We know he's never coming with good intention.
Right, right.
So we don't want you coming off the bench.
If you come off this bench, you're getting it worse than them.
I know.
I don't think that.
So when they get into it, right?
It's only been one or two suspicions.
No, it's just been him.
So after that, right, the fights and all that,
when dudes get into it on the floor,
why do you think the assistant coaches do this?
I'm saying?
Because they're all of them.
Because they're trying to stop anybody from step.
No, because they know that.
So they're trying to stop anybody from stepping up.
But it's not an automatic 20.
No, what I'm saying is, but no one's ever came off the bench when he can go hit someone.
Since then, since that's why he's saying.
They usually come off the bench trying to break up shit.
No, no, they said, no, they said the reason they don't want you to come off because he escalate.
Any guy that came off never really.
No good attention.
No good attention.
He's coming there.
You know what I mean?
So they said, hey, hold on.
If you come off this bench, you're going to get it worse than anybody on the court.
So everybody's like, whoa, we're good.
That's why the team trying to protect guy.
Because you can be on the bench and you ran in there and did some shit.
They'd be like, okay, he got six games, you got 12.
So now when you look at this whole fight, the one who came off the bench got it the worst.
Duh, but you're looking at this fight thinking somebody getting 15 and 25 suspension is crazy.
We're acting like.
I'm trying to determine.
I don't know what happened.
You're supposed to be the toughest man in the world.
You're supposed to be the most logical man in the world.
Y'all talk about 25 games for this shit.
This is crazy.
I said, are we losing our mind?
I said 10 to 25.
It don't matter.
If I run off the bench, that's one game more probably than what everybody else is getting.
Was it one more?
Was it one more?
Three.
All right.
If you step on the floor.
He was on the floor less time than everybody else.
Pushing and shoving is fucking just the end of all.
Like that's, you should be penalized for pushing and shoving.
No, you should be penalized.
Okay.
If I don't want you.
If I don't want you to do something, if I don't matter.
Listen, if you, if you, if you, if you.
If you come in the classroom and you like to slap somebody, right?
That's what you do.
And it's always go to the detention.
You got one day.
And I don't want you to do the behavior anymore.
I'm going to put a penalty on it that kind of stops you from doing it.
If you come in here and slap, it used to be one.
Now it's going to be five.
Yeah, it's going to be a week.
So that's what they did on just coming on the court.
Yeah.
If he's on the court, if he's on the court at the same thing, he just four games.
He just four games.
He's going to get four games.
He gets four games.
So he basically got three games for coming on the floor.
What?
I thought, thank you.
Why do you think I said 10 to 25?
Because at the bottom end is 10, he can get 10 games for this.
Or they can make an example out of him and go 25.
Why are we making examples out of people like that?
Because that's not an example.
He didn't come off and punch somebody in their brain and knock them out.
He came off and pushed and moved.
I mean, no, no, no.
He's doing it.
Man, his first reaction was like, said, he got socks when he came in.
But, Walshbridge, threw a push at him, man, he was doing this.
Can y'all watch?
Yeah, but wasn't he doing this?
Yes.
Here.
Here, let me show.
So you can see, so you can see why.
Hold on, let's stop here.
I want to teach these young boys how to play post defense, because if you know how to play
both defense, this never happens.
You're playing post defense with your chest.
All right, go ahead.
Yeah, love it.
What's wrong.
Look at how strong he is, G.
He's strong.
You ain't going to stop nobody playing post-defense with the chest, okay?
Yeah, he was, yeah.
But that doesn't he was getting bullied the whole time.
Yeah.
Right, right, right?
Like, we're going to go through all that.
All that is fair.
All right now, all one games, one games, right?
Like, look at Durham.
See, Durham, that's why he got two.
See, this extra shit that he's doing, that's what the, he ain't do nothing different.
This extra shit is three games, four games.
Boom.
Yeah, now, now, look.
Now, here comes.
Now, look, the fight is over it.
Look.
Look, see?
He didn't throw a punch.
Rewind.
Rewind.
Look, Nick.
Don't look at Isaiah.
Throw the punch, right here, right here, there's no escalation.
It's kind of over.
This is what starts, resarts it.
So they don't want that to happen.
This is what they're trying to stop.
Now, this is probably the worst fight out of the whole thing.
From a dude who came off the bench.
That's what they don't want.
So you're saying, so this is the worst.
So the person who's not on the floor has the worst part of the fight.
But in your eyes, not in my eyes.
That looked like 25 games?
That looked like we don't want you to do it.
I didn't say 25 games.
I said 10 the bottom or maximum 25.
10 to 25.
Do you know what that means?
Do you know what that means?
You're four more than me.
You're acting like I said 25
I said 10
You can say I'm wrong
What I'm saying is 10 to 25
I was right
No you're acting like I said 25
I said 10
The minimum
Or 25
The max
Anywhere between that
That's what they can do
10
The minimum
You have six right
He has seven
What is it 10?
No it was seven
So I'm three away
Or 25
They can get angry with them
And say we're going to get your ass
25
Yeah, that's what I thought.
No, Nick just saying that he was right.
Okay, we all-
But you don't have to keep going.
We already said it.
I know.
He was the closest.
So when he said five to ten, when Shook said five to ten,
meaning five, at least five, the most ten.
Tell our brothers on the next,
Jerry State of that's all I'm not going out.
All right, well, let's move.
Only one person is that 25.
Y'all came from this.
Let's keep this thing moving.
Did Marty hit anybody?
Did Marty hit anybody?
No, got dropped.
He got hit.
He got six.
So you, like, come on, think about what we're saying.
He got punched.
He got punched and got six.
They were trying to break the behavior of it.
You get punched in your face.
You get sick.
You got to.
So, so basically getting into our, so.
But we were right in the order.
Because the Duran's going to get the less.
So when you look at.
You know, y'all wasn't right about shit.
We said that.
I was going to keep me.
Y'all wasn't right about shit.
Don't say you was right.
I'm so glad he's wrong.
What are we, what do we?
What are we, what are we?
What are we?
I said, you try to make me seem like that was wrong.
I don't even know why you're in here.
We said you were the closest.
We've been said you was the closest.
No, say I'm right.
You was the closest, you're right.
No, I don't say the closest, you're right.
You're right.
You're right.
You're right.
You wasn't right.
Nick, you're right.
Nick, you're right.
You were the closest to number.
You were the closest to number.
Why are you kind of why you keep going for him?
I ain't going for who.
Mackan.
That niggas said three.
That's wrong.
I know, so don't use his energy.
The nigga was scared today.
Who shit?
Three.
See, he would have been in here riding you like he said six, two.
Three.
One to three.
One, two, three.
You're right.
Right, Nick, you're right.
No, no, what we was right about is we was right in the order.
We said Isaiah.
We said Isaiah.
Miles.
Damn motherfucker.
Oh, you're going to get shot, too.
Isaiah Miles, boom, and then Derman get the worst.
Instead of my shot for the Bears winning, I want you to say, Nick, you was right.
But you weren't right.
Oh, my.
You were the closest.
You were the closest.
All right, well, let's keep this big.
But if you were to say six games, I ought to say Nick, you're right.
And he doesn't realize this.
One thing I can say, though, Nick, just think you're wrong.
I was wrong.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
I was wrong.
And I was wrong.
And you're right.
I was wrong.
And you say, I'm right.
You were the closest to sit.
You're closer to seven.
My seven.
Hey, give my theme music.
Give him his real theme music.
No, give him his real theme music.
Yeah.
Peas in the chat, baby.
Throw your peas in the chat, baby.
Throw your peas in the check.
All right, swag.
All right, well, let's keep this thing moving.
Jason Tatum has been on schedule with his rehab
from the tourney kill he suffered last May.
This week, he reached another positive milestone
that leaves a door open for return this season.
Let's just take a look, Gil.
Just look at the photo.
Why should why you got to say by then?
Because you behave.
Tatum was assigned to Boston's G-League affiliate
at Main Celtics.
Practice on the team Monday.
This is betting in its first 5-on-5 scrimmage
with some of its Celtics teammates
along with two-way and G-League players Tuesday.
Damn.
Big doze.
Look at them.
Big Duke.
Hey, Maine.
Frisco on Maine all the way to Spain.
So I guess you may be well aware.
Yeah.
It's just a right-nick show today.
Nick's show today.
So, Tadam, doing five-on-five,
first five-on-five screenaging.
was assigned to the G-League Celtics immediately recalled back to the Celtics of Tuesday.
Taita-Mad, this is to say about a potential comeback this season
and how he would fit in with this Celtic squad.
I'm feeling good.
It was good to be a part of the practice yesterday with the main G-League guys.
Today is 39 weeks, so it's been a long journey.
And it's just like the progression of rehab.
It was the next step.
doesn't mean that, you know, I'm coming back or not.
It's just following the plan.
So it's just another step.
How do you picture fitting into this team midseason if that does happen?
Like, is it going to have to be a bit of sacrifice for you?
Like, how do you imagine it happening?
It's not midseason.
Yeah, I mean, it might look different.
You know, I haven't played with these guys or with this group.
So, you know, but a lot of,
IQ guys out there.
I like to consider myself one of those
type of players.
So if that did
present itself and if I did come back,
you know, we professionals will figure it off.
So Tadam suffered the torn Achilles on May 12th
in the subject game for a loss
at the Knicks and the Eastern Semis.
Underwent surgery the following day on May 13th.
So if he does decide to make a return this season,
mid-March would be a full 10 months since the surgery
with Boston having around 15.
games remaining on the schedule before the playoffs.
You know, I keep looking
at me, Gil. I was looking at King. No.
No, no, no.
Selfics jump up to
second in the east after the Knicks lost to the Pacers
Tuesday night. The team is serious about
trying to make a run in the playoffs after
trading for Nikola Vutrovich at the deadline.
So, obviously, Tatum would not
be 100% if you were to make a comeback,
but would still be a huge boost
of this roster in any capacity.
So, Gil, if you could put the candy down for one moment,
I understand it is Valentine's week. It is delicious
candy.
at All-Star Week as well.
You sound like my therapist game.
Can you put your phone down and listen to what I'm saying?
All right.
How much would adding Tatum, even on a minute's restriction,
move the needle for the Celtics in the East?
On the minute restriction.
You got to benefit 20 to 25 minutes.
Adding him would help because I'm pretty sure
there's teams that's stupid enough to still game playing for him.
Right?
So as long as he's on the court,
He's a threat.
It is first team all-N-B-A five years straight.
So, you know, it's not like you're just going to leave him open
and let him shoot threes and do anything.
So he's still going to be a threat.
25% of Jason Tatum is better than, you know,
most of the players that's going to come off that bench.
So, you know, he will help move the needle,
but he's not going to help dominate
and be a contributor and dominating and helping them get over that threshold.
Like, you're going to, you're going to,
to need him to be Jason Tatum.
So is Brown and Tatum doing what they do?
Hmm.
Do you really need him to be Jason Tatum?
In this NBA right now?
They're number two right now.
Yes, that's funny.
If he comes back, he's playing 20, he's not even number two.
He might be four.
Okay.
So.
For him at four, it's better than everybody's four in the league right now.
But everybody's two.
Their two is not better than nobody in the lead.
But they're two now, though.
No, you're talking about their second option.
If Jason Tatum is going to come in, he's going to play 20 minutes.
He's just coming back playing.
He's going to be like the fourth option.
Okay.
I love that.
Is the second option?
Right.
Is he close to anybody, any other second option in the NBA?
Obviously, he's somewhat their number two in the East, right?
Yeah.
And so they're winning.
So he's obviously doing something.
And if you add Jason Taylor, that does nothing but help if you're trying to win.
But if you don't feel like you can win, I arrest him.
But if you feel like you've got a chance with the East being the way it is,
and shit, even in the West looking up and down,
feel like you got a chance this year, why not?
You don't have to, 20 minutes?
Boston's not winning the championship this year.
You don't.
With him playing 20 minutes?
No.
No, just, I mean, just in general, I mean, yeah, especially if he's playing 20 minutes or not.
Well, who, all right, right now, he's against Boston?
Who is beating Boston, right?
Like, just completely.
Cleveland.
Wow.
Detroit?
Detroit.
Detroit.
Detroit can get them out of here.
Detroit can bully them for seven games.
Six.
I got Detroit in six.
I got Detroit in six over Boston?
Yeah.
Would you decide them?
Without.
Without Jason Taylor. Yeah.
What did we have?
Hell yeah.
Without Jason Taylor.
They all, like, you can beat you in a game here and there, but we're, we're scheming for you.
Yeah.
And we're scheming for you.
And they don't have.
So what is the main scheme you would do for Detroit right now if you play against them?
If I'm playing against Boston?
We're going to push.
We're going to push.
We're going to push.
Jay B. Brown left.
Yep.
We're going to trap him.
And he gets to the hole.
We're going to hit him.
We're going to hit them all the first quarter
They're candy.
Right?
Yeah, yeah.
We're going to hit him hard.
Candy, let you dandy.
His brain is the mouthful.
And I will, I would, I would double
pitcher.
I wouldn't even give him a chance
to even get in the series.
So I'm going to let White do what White do.
I'm going to double J.B.
Hit him as much as possible.
Just keep hitting him.
Just keep hitting him, just wearing them down,
wearing him down to the point where he is kind of
frustrated.
What about Boots?
And then, huh?
What about Vooch?
Huh, thank you.
All we got to do is we can muscle with him.
You got to remember.
My bruiser.
We're doubling K.
My bruisers, I don't really need.
You make boots be the main option.
Isaiah.
Six games, six games, six fouls.
Thompson, defense, like the guys that I don't need,
I can have them to play brute basketball.
Yeah, yeah.
And I'm going to beat on them all.
You don't have anybody you can rid.
I'm sending to a Cade and making everybody else beat me.
Okay.
I don't believe Issel Dunn, whatever his name is, Khabi, I don't trust Lucius Harris, whatever his name is.
But what I'm saying is I'm going to play the beat.
Duncan, I don't trust him.
All you got is, Kaye.
No, no, no, no, that's all they got.
But what I'm saying is, as Detroit against them, you're going to junk the game of making yourself.
That's what you're just, that's all.
I'm just going to make it.
Detroit's just going to make it their style.
Rough them up.
Right now.
Then they're going to limp into the second round.
Shout out to the best player that come out of Cleveland,
the man, Lucius Harris.
Lucius Harris.
I know you're just a person.
The best player come out of Cleveland High School, Lucius Harris.
Oh, here?
Yeah, that's what you.
I was like, Lucius is.
How do you know him?
He went to Cleveland High.
It went to my high school.
I know who he is?
He was my teammate in Jersey.
He played with the next.
Final teams.
He's the second best to come out of Cleveland.
First best to come out of Cleveland.
Wait, I don't know. He started it.
Oh, I'm tripping.
He's a second bass to come.
No, no, no, no. So we all, like, you know,
growing up, you know the NBA players, right?
And Lucius Harris was the NBA player
from the area. I didn't know that was the same one.
How many Lucius Harris did you?
I never heard of it, but never Lucius Harris in my life.
I don't know.
Cleveland High School is on the East Day.
I was always kind of claiming I was the first
Valley kid
because I didn't consider Gayle.
Goodrich, you know, he was not in this part of the valley.
Damn.
That's the problem.
Bill Goodrich.
Yeah.
No difference to say, Gil Goodrich, you still ain't left.
Hey, but about the Jason Tatum situation, I mean, that, I don't really have the answers.
I mean, I came back.
That's what we're going to ask you, Mr. Bielsen.
Same injury.
So I remember you guys asked me about my Achilles injury, right?
So I actually got the real dates of it.
So I tore my Achilles, January 24th, 2015.
My G-League debut was December 19.
2015 and my NBA debut was December 29th, 2015.
So you're about a little over 10 months?
Yeah.
So you heard in January and you came back in December?
Yes.
11 months?
For 11 months?
Yes.
He played the GLEE?
He played the NBA games shortly after.
11 months.
But when did you start playing 5 on 5 though?
Like do you remember?
Around like a lease of like maybe like a week or so before that?
November?
He played one week or like five?
Five-on-five?
Yeah, I mean, I was like, the rest of the whole time.
Like, you know, like, I'm doing twos and threes, all that before.
Okay, now.
And then I went down to the G-League when they saw that I can...
So how many games did it take you to feel like a threat?
So I played one game.
I should have played more.
Played one G-league game.
You were cooking that game.
You was cooking that game.
So, yeah, I had one G-League game, and I played 11-11 in like 25 minutes.
And I was like, yo, maybe...
So what I should have did was I should have played more.
Two or three more.
Yeah, so you went?
And then how long, how was that?
And then I played, and then I got traded right after that.
Because I had a game because Scott Scowell's, I played against Orlando.
I had a good game against Orlando.
Played against Scott Scouts.
I was like, oh, he looked like he's back.
I wasn't really, you know what I was.
I was just trying to get out there.
That's what I'm saying.
So with the Jason Tatum situation, it's like, you know, that's between him and God.
Because, you know, he came, he coming off an injury that, you know, that was unexpected.
And to me, it's just, you know, to me, I would tell him to take his time.
So because you was playing, like, when did it feel like you could be you again?
He has an advantage over what yours is because it's his opposite.
It's not a jumping leg.
He don't have to worry about going up.
He can go up.
Same thing with, you know, Katie.
It was his opposite.
So when did you feel like, okay, I can go do me still?
How many games did it take?
Well, I'm going to tell you, not until after that season.
until I got to the summer.
So, yeah, yeah, once I got with Rico, I mean, Rico Hines and used to the LAT was hooping,
then that's how I got back on the Knicks.
Because I was feeling myself, like, I was able to play.
Remember, I'm still working out, you know, kind of.
But was it more mentally or an injury, though?
Not mentally, I'm getting traded.
Yeah, I'm still trying to figure.
So it's all that in general.
But what I'm saying, when I felt like myself again is when I was able to just play every day.
Like I had that full recovery, so that's what I say.
It's just, it's up to him.
The way he's, the way he answered these questions here,
it doesn't sound like he's coming back.
Right.
And it was like, yeah, you know, if I come back,
like it was like, yeah, you know,
if I decided to come back, we'll see.
Like, he's, you know, like right now it is
part of the progression to see where your leg is,
to see where everything.
See how he responds.
So do you play, practice.
Let me see.
See how it responds, right?
Do more.
See how it responds.
Do a little more.
See how it responds, right?
And we don't know during those response times what the reaction is going to be.
Everybody is hoping for positive reactions during when you revving it up.
This is, I had different injury, but I served you this, then, and third.
But it's the same thing, right?
You go a little more, there's no swelling or irritation.
Okay, we wait two days and we do more.
Do a little more.
We wait a couple days, see if there's any inflammation, any swelling.
Now we give you more to do.
So it's the same thing, man.
but I just don't want him to rush back, man, and risk something further happening or this not being all the way right.
To Brandon's point, man, it's between him and God, him and whatever decision he make.
I'm pretty sure it'll be the best for him.
Not doing what's in the best interest of the team right now.
This is his career with a serious injury.
So he's worked his ass off to get to this point.
and I'm pretty sure his mindset is
and people around him
let's not do anything to jeopardize
the work that you've put in up to this point
in your rehab process
because we can
we think we're Superman
we start feeling good
and now we can play
no it has to be steps
and it's baby steps
it's baby steps
we want to take that baby step
then we want to run then sprint the next day
like it doesn't work that way with these things
so continue to take your time
man but
to do us
best for you and your career and
saying all the right things right now
but he's working his ass out of me you can tell
so November 12th
November 12th is when I started playing
5 on 5 and 4 for the Pistons
and I and I know November
and then December when so this
and then since December
19th is when I first had my first year
so then there a month of playing 5 on 5
yeah
then you didn't feel right until the summer
yeah still
but a lot of the trading this stuff
Yeah, it's a lot of other stuff that goes into that.
What?
I just like being right.
I don't know who you're right.
I was talking about this last time, and I, y'all was like he can't get in shape or all.
We said the only way to get in game shape is to play games with the Zach Worris was.
Five on five.
Like I said, the only way to get in game shape is to play games.
Five and five is a game.
I'm in shape right now.
I can't go play basketball.
Like, I don't know what you're right about.
You're saying he should play.
Did he say he's playing?
I didn't say that.
Oh, I'm just to see what he's right about?
What are you right about?
Hey, Steph pulled out of the hospital.
I'm going to play the last five games that don't mean nothing
and see how you feel.
For what?
I wouldn't mind.
Yeah, I would get the last five games.
How you know they ain't going to mean that?
You still got to do a lot of them.
How do you know them last five games is not going to mean that?
They could be fighting first place in the east.
Last five games.
This is what he's in.
It's not easy.
Like, bro, it's not like, bro, you can get out there and start playing,
but when them motherfuckers is hitting you and you moving
fast and you got a jerk and you got to do all that.
Bro, it's totally different. You got to come
back, get treatment every day.
You still got to, you know what I'm saying?
Do all the mobile stuff.
It's like it don't stop. I still
got to do it today. Like if I'm in the cold,
it's still gets stiff today. Like, it's not a
I can tell you right now. That shit is not a
I can tell you right now. That's open surgery.
Whatever he's going to feel, he's feeling in real time
because I can tell you what
he's going to do now is not going to lead up
to nothing that he's going to face in the game.
Who he's guarding in practice, who he's guarding his practice is not going to be.
I did it.
Me too.
Luca is not going to be KD.
It's not going to be Yonest.
It's not going to be the guys that when game time starts, that's who he's facing, that's going to test that Achilles.
Right? The guys he's playing in practice, they're going to, it's babysitting.
That's why we never know.
That's why we never know if we're ready.
I'd be sitting there shaking the shit out of this.
Steve Blake, oh, I'm ready.
I'm ready.
White gloves.
And then that's what he was like, oh, yeah,
he's about to go against Brandon Jenis.
He'd by the head and he like, ah!
And then the reality of what he said hit me
because I'm thinking I'm back
because of who I'm practicing again.
And he bought it to the reality.
And then he bought me to reality.
He said, you're coming back right now,
we got Breeden Genius.
You got Alanibism.
Your ass going to be out there,
knee fell off.
Ah!
And then it was like, ha, ha, ha.
And then I thought about it like.
I did.
No, no, but it's not.
It's true.
Nobody's true, though.
That's what I said.
And I'm true.
And I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and it really actually hurt me mentally.
That hurt me worse because we mental.
So I'm on a high.
So I'm got to go now.
I got to talk him out of the game.
Now I'm going to sit there like, now I'm going to baby like, make sure you will cross me over.
I'm in practice, no knee brace and stuff.
Now I got to double tape it just a case because I all wanted to fall out.
Like so now, you know, because it's now like, yo, I'm not playing against that speed or that guy in practice.
You don't trust it.
Because you don't trust it.
Yeah.
Like you don't trust that end.
Like Brandon just said, like, then you start overcompensating.
Yes, that's the biggest thing.
Because you don't trust that leg, that ankle, that Achilles, that knee that you don't trust it.
So now you're overcome.
So this is like with me, right?
I come back from a microfracture surgery, my left knee.
I don't really, I ain't supposed to be out there playing really, but my dumb ass out there playing.
Overcompensating.
I had to get microfracture over on my neck.
the first two games of the season.
Because I didn't wore this motherfucking right one out.
Because this left one is shot.
And I'm out there,
every time I'm landing, I'm landing on the right one now.
I'm trying to keep this left one off the ground.
And I'm still dealing with Patella tendonitis in this bitch
on top of the motherfucking micro fracture surgery.
And I'm out there bitch just landing on one leg.
Now it's the next season.
You overcome it.
You shouldn't have been playing in the first place.
So I'm just trying to avoid those things for him.
Like, just continue to do what you're doing.
But.
You know, I'm trying to figure out how long
Well, Katie had the COVID season, too, though, so.
So he got to miss all of it.
So he got to just skip off it.
And then that next season.
Yeah, I was trying to figure out, like, the people who had that.
He'd be fine.
That's how he was in a position where they're missing the first four, like,
they don't have nothing to play for the last four games.
If he wanted to go out there.
Then, yes.
If he wanted to go out there and just test it out, just to see.
If they was in 12.
Yeah, just like, all right, go on.
Let me see what you're doing.
If they were 12th place.
No.
But I don't know.
I don't even, like, me, I'm one of those, like,
you're 99.9% ready to go.
Why push it?
For, to be 100, why go out there and tweak it, right?
Give yourself.
No need to tweak it, right?
Give yourself.
Like all these guys, Hallenberger, Dane.
He ain't got nothing to play for right now, though.
Oh, but that's why not, don't come back.
Oh, Hallenberg, don't come back.
He shouldn't come back.
He shouldn't come back.
Oh, he's Halliburg?
No, I'm talking about Tay.
I don't think he shouldn't either.
No.
That was a hit.
There's nasty, nasty games to end of season.
I don't think none of them.
I don't think Dame Halliburne, Jason Tatum, I don't think none of it.
I think it's sailing ready.
Remember, we're listening to him talk.
Get a full-crime.
You can tell when a player is about to come back.
Yeah.
You can hear it.
You can hear the ego coming back out.
Right?
Oh, yeah, you know, we're all professionals.
We'll figure it out.
Like, that's like, okay, he's still about a month away from even making that decision.
No.
Has somebody ever had to come back in their team?
this situation like that though.
That's what,
that's tough.
There's even more reason to sit out.
From Achilles.
Like you only got a chance
of being so often.
It's hard to win.
That's even more.
But the problem is,
is you're telling the player to come back
and be half himself.
So he's risking more
with no upside of it.
Right?
It's like,
now the frustration.
You got to remember,
you're not playing as well.
Because just with any injury,
the Achilles right,
so when he's playing a game,
he knows he can't do his right
his pushing off this leg
so he can't do his favorite
side step shot
right so now he's working the other way
so he don't go this way and
it's basketball right
you have to react off the defense too so he's going to
be put in situations where he has to
do that move he can't control himself
so you don't want little tweaks
and little bruises and all that stuff
like you just want to be one as a
basketball player like yourself
say you know you can't do certain things
you know you can hit
That open shot, though, when you're right there.
You know you can do that type of thing.
And that type of stuff.
That's why Dane ain't playing in the three-point shootout.
Because it's just shooting in stationery.
He ain't got to guard.
If the macks don't, the macks don't move.
They got to go to four.
They got him playing the four now.
Who's the four he has to work out?
I got a guard.
I got to go.
I got a guard.
I got a guy.
In the playoffs.
In the playoffs, I got to go all the fours and the threes.
In the playoffs, I got to go on all the fours and the threes.
In the NBA.
I got to go out of everybody.
There's no one.
Ain't no individual matchups every game where you stick with this every time we're on the floor.
I got this guy.
Shit, man, we put him in the chicken rolls.
Shit, we'll put him in a pig and roll.
Every time.
Oh, they're going to put him in pick a roll.
Every time.
Every time.
Every time.
Go right, let him push off that right foot.
I'm going to my length.
You're going right by you.
I'm using my length on from bunsen.
Who is I got to worry about?
Man, you're like y'all ain't ever played this game.
No, no, no.
We played it.
We have.
You had like you had never played with injuries, yeah.
No, no, we played with injuries.
That's like you can't.
Yeah, yeah, my, man.
He had one-dimensional person that he could only do this,
something.
No, no, no, I, I remember I had injuries and I kept coming back.
If he wanted to play.
Remember, I thought the same shit too, Nick.
I can come back and I can just be Steve Nash
sitting in the corner, shoot some threes.
I mean, it could just go to shoot some threes,
come out to pick a roll, make a little passes,
and then the game kicks in.
Right, I only know how to be me.
He only knows how to be Tatum
So when he gets in the game
Tatum's going to be Tatum
He's not going to be Derek White
He's going to be Tatum
So he's going to want to do Tatum shit
And we don't know if Tatum in the playoffs
Trying to do Tatum shit
If his Achilles is rated from Tatum shit
Because I know my knee
Wasn't ready for me to drive
And I see the open lane
And I decide to try to jump
Like coming off the picker road
Like open
Do you try to
When you see an open lane now, do you run and try to duck?
No, digger.
All right.
All right.
You can get on a court.
Could you know?
I don't get on, yeah, I don't get on a court.
But when I came back and it laid open up.
You ain't never tried to duck.
What the fuck?
When the last time you tried to duck?
Please, Tim.
Come on, man.
When I got hurt in 07 and I came back from the next season, I played eight games.
Can you want to read the eight games?
I understand.
Can you read the eight games?
Give me a second.
You know what?
about this, the game I got injured, just read the last game.
Let's see what the injured me look like.
Give me a second go.
Give them the numbers on the me going in there doing this.
Me going in here doing this.
The result.
Was that 2010?
No.
2007-eight season.
Oh, yeah.
Go to Minnesota.
Go on the Minnesota game.
Joe a dick.
Hold on a few nasty.
I think I played eight games or like 12 years.
I think it was the 12 games.
Give me a second, Gilbert.
Oh, man.
I was doing, but we made, that's when we put the playoffs.
You were good.
You were good.
When at Minnesota, you had a good game.
0708, but that was the one before you missed that flu a game.
0708.
You came back for the penalty.
So you had 27 that game.
So look, the game that shut me down again.
You had played 38 minutes.
You had 27 points.
Eight assists.
Wow.
And four steals.
Thinking I'm back.
Done.
Did not play.
Woke up the next day.
Oh, what's happening?
Miniscus tear, all that.
Was that a playoff?
That was game eight of the season.
That was game eight of the season.
You did not return until game 75.
Yeah.
Now show, now show, what was I doing?
Look how good I was looking.
Huh?
You played in the playoffs?
Yeah, you know what happened in the playoffs?
Good game one.
I came into playoffs because I want to show to them back.
And I took that, I took that tort all shot.
and hyper-extended my knee
surgery again.
Did not play game five or six.
Had 24 points in game one,
seven points of game two.
Two points.
Game three.
Man, because all was done.
I showed, I showed.
I took that tort all, like, what's up?
Yeah.
Took a tort on the fucking, that big motherfucker down there
ran right into my wrist, the one who's still playing,
ran, boom.
Oh, I can't, oh, this hurts.
Gave me a torn.
All shot.
I couldn't protect my knee.
Hyper-extended it.
Another surgery. So I had three surgeries in 14 months.
And I can guarantee you this.
I remember.
Every time I checked in the game after rehab, I felt I was 100.
Until I wasn't.
You got your money.
I got your money.
You got my money.
You got my money, man.
That's what you came back for.
That's what I came back.
I got my money.
He's going to get that money.
You got $1.11 right after that.
Well, let's keep this new one.
We got one more thing to discuss before we get ready for our NBA All-Star weekend.
Also, weekend just days away, and with it comes the unexpected return of Damian Lillard,
who will be rocking his Blazers jersey again as he participates in the three-point contents,
which will kick off All-Star Saturday night.
The two-time three-point champion will be joined by another former champion, Devin Booker,
along with Connoisse, Tyrese, Donovan Mitchell, Jamal, Murray, Bobby Porter, Jr., and Norman Powell.
If Liller wins, he would join Larry Bird and Craig Hodges as the only three-time winners of the event.
So, good looking at this.
Should Damien Lillard be allowed to participate in the three-point contest even though he hasn't played this season?
The question, questions have answered.
Don't look at me.
All questions don't merit the answer, though.
Okay.
The answer is, is he a top three-point shooter in the league?
Yes.
Okay, which means he's on a roster.
He's a champion.
He's a three-point shooter.
He should be in the game.
You know, it's that simple.
Like, I think people have this idea that the percentage of someone's three point, that means they are the best shooter.
So someone who takes three shots a game and they got 56 percent, they think they need to be a node.
Like, that's not actually how it works.
But, you know, I get what the argument is, but he is considered the best shooter.
He's been there.
He's won two times.
Like, yes.
If Vince Card, if this is done contest, and Vince Carter didn't play that, you know,
year and he came into the dunk contest.
Anybody going to say nothing?
Hell no.
I would be appreciative.
I want to see him, man.
If I want to see the dog, we know he's like, I don't get,
you got zero dunks this year?
I mean, put him in the dunk contest.
I wouldn't mind seeing this.
Damn.
I'm not saying like it.
I mean, the dunk, the three-time dunk champ.
God damn it ain't in the NBA.
Oh, yeah, I can tell you right now.
If I'm him, I'm blivit.
Because I can tell you one thing.
You, you are.
You already got an achievement that probably won't be broken.
That's three in a row.
Baby damn, you get four in a row that no one can ever beat.
And you haven't really been in the NBA.
So they removed him this year so he don't four people.
Shout out.
MacClemore.
Yeah, he won three in a row.
Yeah.
Damn.
He can't even.
Is that three in a row?
Yeah.
Craig Hoddish has previously competed for his third straight three-point championship
when he wasn't on a team, he just wore an NBA jersey.
He just wore NBA jersey.
He just wore NBA.
Man, sure.
He did not.
He swathe me once in just saying.
He went to the Boston and got that.
Jordan Rookiee Year one.
Just the number on it.
We got the Michael Jordan jersey.
Just player.
Did he win that year?
Hold on, Baron, did he win that year?
Tell me.
No, he did not.
Isaac Hayley.
Who was other?
Who was the other one?
Who's the other one?
Who's the other one?
Well, Larry Bird and Craig Hodges.
No, no, no, no.
Connopple.
Devin Booker.
No, no, say the real.
Okay, let's go in order.
In order of order to report.
The Stars first.
Devin Booker.
Okay.
Donovan Mitchell, Tyrese, Maxie.
Jamal Murray. Okay.
Bobby Portis is in the three-point out there.
Bobby Portis is?
Yeah.
That's my man's, but...
No, that's my man's, but...
Bobby Portis.
No, no, I'm not saying that he can't three's, but I'm not saying he can't get in it.
Why don't they get this right?
Do they not remember their past?
Like, think 80s in the...
When you was trying to sell this league...
That name, they put it out.
When he was trying to sell this lead to America,
and you needed...
you needed the star's names, they got used to this.
They got used to the names, right?
And that's what the NBA needs to get back to.
Because what happened was Jordan and Dominique name kind of messed up the dunk contest.
Because Michael Jordan, when he entered, he entered as Michael fucking Jordan.
He didn't enter as a rookie prospect.
or a second year player.
When he won, when he won, he was Michael Jordan already.
He's on his third signature shoe.
He is the, so he is the most famous, the most acculated player
to do the dunk contest.
Him, Dominique, and then probably like the White Howard.
Dr. Jay.
But when did that stop?
Because everybody was going to have to.
No, no, it stopped after.
No, Jordan.
Tony Vince.
Jordan was the biggest name that ever so when you thought about the dunk contest because who Jordan was at that time
It put so much on it. That's why you entered the three-point contest because it's Michael Jordan
Right so everybody had this idea that but if you go through the take Jordan out and you go through the list
You're gonna be like ah these niggas ass
And Jordan also holds a record you're gonna look at that they wasn't super star
Yeah, though that's what I'm saying? What year did it what year was this?
Dominique Lucas
What year did he enter the dunk contest?
What year?
What year?
71.
I remember.
Seventy what?
Seventy what?
Did we know the dunk contest?
I mean, the dunk contest we see with him and Kareem
and my dude, Jabbar doing.
So other than, so I hear Bill's point, right?
So the name's carried it, right?
But not just the names, it was the dunks as well.
Yeah, because, yes.
The deep name, the dunks followed the names.
Yeah.
It's not that anymore, right?
We know that.
The names are not getting in it.
The names are never been in.
They never been in.
That's the thing.
They never, so you're saying D. Brown.
Like, so when you think Michael Jordan, Michael Jordan is all NBA, all-star,
finals, NBA.
Like, that's the guy who's coming into the dunk contest.
Now you take him out and Dominique and you go through the list
and you go through the Sean Kemp's and the D. Browns and the Key Smith and the Spud,
webs, and those are not the superstars.
So the same guys they got now fits that is LeBron.
He never won't.
I know what I'm saying.
But the only other person that fits what you're saying,
the name that the letter says,
because it has to, they can't.
Not when they wanted him.
The name.
He didn't did it his rookie second year.
No, no, but everyone, see, that's the thing.
You do it in the first two years.
Throughout history, everyone always did it the same time.
You do it your first couple years.
But that's what I said.
MJ didn't do that.
So that's why everyone thinks about the magnitude of the dunk contest.
But if you go through history and you look,
Kobe did it his rookie year.
He didn't do it after that.
They had the lockout.
By the time they got out of a lockout, Kobe's Kobe.
I'm not going, I'm not doing a dunk contest.
They look at it beneath that.
Yeah, so Vince Carter does it in the 2000.
Once he got his name, that's the first All-Star.
He didn't do it anymore, right?
So the biggest name that came into the All-Star with a name was Dwight Howard.
Okay.
That got the Acculays.
So no one is coming in with their acculays to push it up.
So right now we would need job.
We would need job.
I don't think you need them.
No, because.
I don't think you need them.
Right, because what?
Zach Levine didn't have a name when he got into it.
Aaron Gordon didn't have, he wasn't like that.
But they made, they made, Gerald Green, mayor named for himself.
Those dudes made, so my thing is, that's what it's always been.
So it's never been different.
I think it's, but I think what teams should do now, we, the way to fix these problems are.
With the dunk contest and the three-point contest and this thing,
and this thing that they do.
If the names are not going to do it, right?
You get your best guy on your whoever your best shooter is and you submit that to the
lead and they pick whoever is going to be the top 10 shooters, right?
We watch these guys dunking practice and warm up.
Who's your most asses?
Who's your best dunker?
Him.
We put his name in.
We know they all can jump and they all dunkers and ain't going to be the motherfuckers.
They're just missing dunk.
Yeah.
We put this guy in because he wanted to be in it.
That's what they're doing.
They're doing, they're looking at these names and say, I don't know them.
Well, these are the best dunkers.
So it's already starting off.
So the names is not getting it, so now the dunks happen.
But the dunk has always been the same.
I get it.
Let them build their name off of their athletic system.
Their dunks like Zach and Aaron and certain guys, Jason Richardson, Desmond, Mason,
like those guys built their name off of that dunk contest.
They were solid NBA players who were on their team and their respective organizations.
but they made their notoriety on Saturday night.
This is what I do.
They made their name, but the dunk contest itself is losing the star power.
The reason 2000 was so important because it was down for two years.
Okay.
It was it was it was it was it was it was it was Kobe won.
Then it was lockout.
It was two times missing.
Then the next time they seen a dunk contest, right?
Vince Carter.
Right.
So that that kind of carried it for a little.
bit. He set the standard, but he didn't, he didn't, he didn't do it anymore.
Because he couldn't do nothing else different. I don't think he could have, I don't,
that was like Dominion. It's kind of like, what if you were?
That's the come fly with me. That's the first jump from the free throw line. That,
it's that you can't redo like, you try to do that shit again. He was like, oh, we already
seen that. Yeah. I mean, he could have done some, he could have spent some shit.
He could jump from the top of the key. Don't, don't, don't three people out there. Don't go on all three
them shit.
Do one of these and one of those.
That shit.
Reverse it.
We didn't think we're really more graded.
Like, there's been times where we were like, I remember we was like when James White got in it.
Right?
We was like, oh, yeah, he got to eat.
Hey, good luck.
Yeah.
And a lot of people, a lot of players did not want to be in a dunk contest because they
thought he was going to be in it.
Yeah.
And the NBA didn't play in it.
Was that college dunk contest?
He was doing this.
Motherfuck.
Yes.
Man, that's the thing.
So I remember a lot of, a lot of people who thought they can dunk didn't want.
didn't want to enter the dunk contest
because they thought he was going to be in it.
Because they saw that motherfucker
McDonald's all the American
Dunk contest.
But he didn't,
but the lead didn't put him in.
He got the top of the key
moving that motherfucker around
with two hands.
He didn't make a duck contest.
No, he got in the dunk contest
when he got heavier later.
Yeah, this was shooting James White.
Well, we're talking about that
the rookies basketball
playing James White, the one they put
in the dunk contest.
They didn't put that boy
that had wings up under that jersey.
How many years did you green do it?
Shannon Brown? Just once?
Shannon Brown was trash too in that motherfucker.
There's some guys ain't, yeah.
Yeah.
That was my dunts.
Some people can just jump far.
Jason Richardson?
Off the backboard between the leg?
Oh, my shit.
You're in a dunk contest?
Uh-uh.
But you did a dunk contest?
I was trying to do it that year, but they didn't pick.
They didn't pick.
You were telling me to do them dunks in the games.
Do this?
Yeah.
I did the rock the cradle of them.
Did you do high school dunk contests?
I did all that.
I did do a dunk contest.
I was supposed to be in the dunk contest.
Yep, in L.A.
But I broke my class.
The representative, baby.
Yeah, I did all that.
All that shit.
Yeah, I'm always in trade.
I got here working out in San Antonio.
That was that year, Blake Griffin jumped over that car.
You got to do this.
Now, you know what?
I thought the NBA, I thought the NBA was progressive when they, when they allowed McCong to get in.
I thought they was opening up a gateway.
Okay.
I thought they were open to the gateway.
The real dunker.
The real dunker.
The professional dunker.
Because what they don't understand that players understand is this.
You let an outside entity take something that ego gets bruised.
Right?
That ego gets bruised.
You let one of them outside dunkers come in and they clean up that award.
Oh, that's what they're doing.
they, all I bet.
Now I'm going to practice dunks.
Yeah.
And the money and the money for them.
I don't want to get embarrassing.
Yeah.
Professional dunkers, I'm not even going to participate.
That too.
Okay.
I'm just saying.
My thing is this, I thought the dunk contest kind of got ruined.
And when the winners who won didn't defend it.
Tremantor.
Yeah, mentor.
You're winning.
You got to come back.
Wasn't that?
Aaron Gordon didn't win.
Wasn't that the thing?
I wouldn't have went back if I was in.
Yeah, and Gordon, then went one.
That's gonna start messing up.
I wouldn't have went back about him.
But Deway gave him a damn.
He got cheated.
He was doing some, Eric Warren was doing some crazy shit.
He gave him a nine.
And Deway gave him a nine.
All right, or eight or some shit.
Leave in Chicago.
All right, Dwayne.
NBA.
Yeah, that brother, nine.
All right, well, good place for us to wrap up for that
because we gotta get prepared for our NBA All-Star weekend.
It's gonna be whacked this year.
Wait, who just backed out another American?
Who backed out?
They said Steph Curry, right?
Lucas may or may not play
Got the hair.
You don't want to play that shit they're trying to do
I think, man, y'all don't listen to me at all.
They got 200 influencers, though.
The reason they got 200 influencers
going up.
Like a basketball world.
Not one here in Woodland Hills, though.
Like, the problem is, like,
media wants this narrative
that it's Euro versus Americans
and the Euros is on the same
shit that the Americans on.
This is all-star break.
I want to rest because I carry
my team. My job is not to prove that we're better than them or they're better than that.
Like, that's, you guys trying to prove something here and you think they are on the same wave.
And I've been trying to say it. They're worse than them. They're worse than the Americans.
They don't want to, this is chill mode. I don't want to have to go out here and play harder.
Then I'm playing in the game and I don't get no rest. Then we got to try to make the playoffs.
So this is a rest time for them too.
So if you think
If you want to
If you want to grade my performance out there
I'd rather just sit out
Oh shit my angle
So there's going to be a few
They're going to pull out at the last minute
Because they don't want to go out there
And you got the world trying to
Put us against each other
For sure
And that's
And that's going to be the thing
This is the big push for the playoffs
After this? After this?
We've been
I remember Papp.
You've been sending and packing up.
I remember Pappave was, it was a contradiction to something he said.
He said, man, when you make that team, you're supposed to go out there and play hard and do this and do that and get out there.
Like, this is what we're trying to see.
This is the best thing on earth.
And then he said, when he was talking to Joel Embed, he said, hey, man, take it easy when you get out.
Take it easy when you get out there because we've got to make this push in this playoff.
And what you said is.
is exactly what the mindset is, but the fan thing took over,
and he was thinking like, this is what he wants to see in the game.
He wants to see the best players going at it,
but when it comes to his teammate, he said, hey, don't go hard,
because we need you for the back end of this thing.
And, you know, and that's the biggest thing that's going on is, you know,
I don't need my guy going out to try to prove something.
But only, like, the last five minutes when they try to win the game,
Yeah, the last five minutes.
Or trying to win a game if it's close or the MVP is trying to get a good note.
Good spot for us to wrap up.
Shout to everybody in the chat.
Shout to everybody on this couch.
Make sure everybody has a blessed and safe NBA All-Star weekend.
Remember, you're not allowed.
You're not allowed.
Do not fly into Burbank.
Do not pull up the brand is golf.
I'm going to be on art.
Better watch it back.
Oh, I didn't want to watch it back.
Yeah, I didn't want to say that out here.
I was like, yeah, you don't want that to happen.
All-star weekend.
You better stay inside the house.
They're coming.
Is it going to be work there?
Shit.
Because I was asking for a friend.
What?
Huh?
Nothing.
And I'm saying, listen, if I see you, if you see me on Arc Raiders or you see my name
come across and I'm talking in the chat to you, I'm not friendly.
All right?
Don't listen to nothing I say, right?
I'm just trying to kill you, bro.
I don't even want your loot, right, because I'm rich.
So I don't want your loot.
I just want your body to just be non-exist anymore.
So if you hear me or see me and you be like,
You're friendly.
You know, I'm alive.
I'm gonna say yes.
You're gonna run brattata-ta-ta-ta.
I got a Tarente with me, hundred and two bullets, and I don't know how to aim so everybody
getting sprayed.
I'm glad you finally telling the world how you really are.
Oh, I'm slamming you down.
Oh yeah, yeah.
I thought she was nice.
I'm slime master.
This has been another episode of Gil's Arena, presented by Underdog.
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We'll see y'all next week!
