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Spurs backcourt, have one of the most loaded backcorts in the league. All-Star Darren Fox, Rising Stars, is Define Castle, Dylan Harper. Harper had a breakout postseason in his rookie campaign. will look to have an increased role this year. So in a recent interview with GQ, along with Stefan Castle, Harper, jokingly said, fuck no, when asked if he was fine coming off the bench, average performance in last year's playoffs. He said it was a joke. But he was asked about those comments in his role with the team this season and had this response.

Everyone hasn't compared to edge them. But the biggest thing for me is whatever I can do, just like last year, I helped the team win. And whatever position that all the coaches think is best for me to be in, that's a position I'm I'm happily going so I mean whatever happens this year just know that that ain't gonna be no bad bad nothing for me I'm always gonna say positive and I'm always gonna kill bro and I'm always gonna be at the forefront of just keeping the team together they one of his teammates was in the background messing with him during that that was the yo bro we've been there before okay thank you good we know what any maturity sounds like hit training camp

Spurs head coach, Mitch Johnson was asked about the prospects of playing the Fox Castle Harper three-guard lineup and said, I see all three of them playing together. I don't know the definition of a lot more, but more than we did in the regular season for sure. So BD, we'll start with you. How should the Spurs handle the Deerrin Fox to find Castle, Dylan Harper, three-headed monster they have in the back court this season? It's a good problem to have, I think. It is. You know, you don't borrow time with Harper as far as starting.

but if you continue to bring Harper in off the bench the way you've been playing him, then you win and Harper wins, right? Because Harper don't, as a starter, there's more expectation, there's more margin for error, there's more of a point guard game that he has to play coming off the bench. He's like, damn near one option. You know what I mean? He's a single man fast break.

He has more freedom. I think he has more margin for error. And he has a role that, you know, when he come in, it's cracking. And so for a young dude, even though, you know, I would love him to start. But you got Fox, who got all the money, right? You got Castle as your defensive guy. Vassel. You got Demmer Vassell?

He's nice for sale. Tobias Harris. Tell the Johnson, you got guys that, you know. Yeah, so bringing, like, letting Harper come off the bench get that six men of the year this year. And then, you know, eventually, like, we're going to have to pay this kid, you know, a lot of money to stay. But you're buying some time. You got a little borrowed time to kind of keep it the same. And then, like, upgrade, you know, you got to find more minutes for him.

Wow. But starting him should not. be like a necessary requirement to get the most out of his value, I would say. And for him coming off the bench, he's like, man, I just come off the bench and do what I do, right? You don't necessarily have to have the responsibility of making sure that everybody's, the players are being ran, we're in the right defense, you know, just all the responsibilities of a start. And you got something you talked about last postseason, Dylan Harper being a second overall

pick, though, right? being a second overall pick. There's expectations, but he was able to have the postseason he had because there was less pressure on, even though he had to step up and feeling for Deere and Fox was done with the ankle injury throughout the postseason. Yeah, okay, you know postseason is more than just, like,

it's a form of the game, and your success is off of who we're cutting out of the game, right? So I understand when you say postseason, he looked great. He looked great because we're focusing on something else, right we had 82 regular season games he average 11 um

is he a starter is he necessarily is he the the second third or fourth best guard is he better than the sale because like Castle in

in in Fox they're leap years away from them at this moment in time so Vassel is the only person that that spot is up for grabs. You're a shooting guard, he's a shooting guard. That's the one that's up for grabs.

But Fox, he was an all-star. He had a bad moment in time. You had a great moment in time, but this was a whole season. So 99% of the time, he was better than you. Same thing with Castle, right? So you had a great moment. You look great. We're going to use that coming into this next year.

but my two guards, I don't see how you're going to beat them out to become a starter. Vassal? Maybe. But that's my point with the three-guard line. I'm not even saying he needs to be a starter, but finding him more menace on that to world. You need Vassel. Vassel is Bessel. I know. He's nice, though.

He's the only one. He's nice, y'all. He's the only one that has. But you need him, you need him because he do something different. But you're the only one that you can. Like, that's the only one. You can't start. Right, your 11 is not, not competing with 18 points a game.

That was an all-star. I'm sorry. Who average 18? But with the men is it, man. Who was 18? Yeah. Who was my all-star guard last year? Darren Fox, but you're talking about Vassel.

How much is the average? I'm talking about Vassel right here. What I'm saying? If you're saying Dylan Harper needs to come from Vassel. No, I said he's not, he's not competing with that guard. He's not compete with Kessel right now. How much did Harper average in the playoffs? 14.

14. 14? 14. 14? We average 14. In the finals, what are the average? Huh? They average 14, 6, and 3 in the playoffs in the finals.

Probably average, what? 18. I think it was up to like 15 or 18, 18, 18, 6 and 3. So. I mean, he's like, it's like James Hardin. It's like James Hardin on O KC. It's like James Hardin on O KC. That's what I was going to bounce.

He's going to bounce again. That's the fear I got to. You got to be worried about him being also, Like, you know, I'm nice, too. I need to go have my own show. I'm not... I'm not getting care today. You start my growth, you know.

But that's going to always have happened with him when he got drafted there. Not necessarily. You got drafted there and you still have... You remember, most of those guards is young, right? Most of those guards is young. You're the number two pick. You want to be on a team where it's your team and he's coming to a team where the rookie of the year is there.

I don't think he just paid Fox. But even if they don't pay Fox. is going to be you and someone else. Plus, so you don't really get, you don't really get a team to yourself anyway. But it just worked out that way, right? You're going to be the third best player on the team coming into it. Unless you're going to outplay Castle,

you're the third best player on the team, and you're just as young. So your money's going to be, your money's going to be diluted to them too, right? So you leaving is more of a thing that might happen. Yeah. I don't think the Spurs won't that. It don't matter.

It doesn't matter. If somebody's smart enough to say, like they did James Harden, you know what? You're moving at a different frequency. You're the third best player with them. You can be the best player on our team. We still got to overpay you to be the, we're going to give you max money here. So come on and be max money and play for my team. That's going to happen here.

I don't think it's that simple. And the reason I say that is because the timelines, as far as the group, still have to match up. And the only one that doesn't match up with the timeline moving forward is Deering Fox. No, no, fuck De Aaron Fox. I'm not meaning to fuck him, but Max player is Wemby, right? He took a pay cut. The next contract is Castle. He's going for Max.

He's going to have to take a pay cut. Harper's money. Someone is going to max him. Someone is going to say, I'll get him. Somebody going to get in that second apron for the future. I think he gets the same deal like Keontay George. Who? Harper.

And there's going to be somebody out there. There's somebody there's going to be somebody out there. I'm paying way more. I will give you a rookie max. He's gone. You know what I mean? They're going to do the same thing as James Harden. You're going to sign somebody.

You're going to sign somebody before him and not have enough money for him. They're going to have enough. I don't think they're letting him go. You can't. Well, they got it. They got it. You can help. I think Deerrin Fox has this year.

I'm not possibly next year. We're not worried about Deer and Fox. Yes, they are. Castle has to Mac. Castle has to Mac. Castle's money is going to be signed. Castle next. And then Harper has to.

Castle is not a bigger factor. And I already got, I already got 200-something million. There's going to be another 200 million. I don't think Castle hits up for two more seasons. You got it. He's been for, before Harper. But his attention you bread won't hit for another two seasons. You kind of need them all.

I understand that. But you got Deerrin Fox making 53-15. It's been for Harper. I'm just saying to be successful, you kind of need them all. To Boogie's perspective, the Aaron Fox is going, you're going to probably have to move Deeran Fox. You got to figure out Castle. I'm going to say that money in the castle. Yeah, but if...

You're going to spend some of it. I'm going to spend some of it. Like, there's three years before I have to sign Harper. That money's going to be spent. Yeah. That's... Trying to be spent. But you're still going to have to think about the sale.

That's... I'm not even talking about it. You got them for a good deal through 28, 29. So he's there... But him and Harper are going to be up... What's he's making around 20... He's making 27 this year and then 24. and then 20, like 50. Now, when is Harper's extension, the same as the sale.

What I'm saying is there's going to be a lot of sacrifices or people go. But now, do you do like the Thunderdu, you have that big three with Wemby, Castle, and Dylan Harper. I have too many contracts before Harper comes up. So if I'm not thinking about what is going to happen in the free agency.

Who's the other contracts though? Everybody else. Remember, that team was young before. I don't think nobody's more of a priority than Harper. That's three years from that. But you don't have to worry. What he's saying is you don't have to worry about Harper,

which kind of screws Harper over. You have to worry about it. No, you don't because it's three years before you even, like you, before you even think about, it's three years before you have to set at the table and negotiate. So you kind of like get them for the low.

And so it's like, I'm not trading them, I'm not doing shit, I'm going to keep you here until now when your contract, come up, I'm going to offer you as much as I can, but somebody else going to go. I think Wemby took that deal to set the tone. I think Kassel will take a...

Well, yeah, everybody got... If Wemby did it, everybody did. No, no, the fuck we don't. Or you ain't going to give it to him? No, the fuck we don't. You ain't going to give it to him? There's a difference here. That light skin, French, he can take any sacrifice he wants

because he's defaced his money outside of this game. is way better than all the less. It's way different. So if he wants to take... But if he wants to take a $50 million less, that might be $5 million to me. But I know it ain't 50 for 50.

Nike's not giving me $100 million or $200 behind the scenes. That motherfucker got Louis Vuitton. He got product deals. He got all kinds of shit coming to him. Not me and my ugly ass. I need all my money. But the organization... The organization ain't going to give it all to you.

Hmm? No, but that... But I'm saying, like... And they're going to use... that as a standard. Harper is the same as what James Hardin is. Did they're going to come? Did not do the same thing in their years?

Take pay cuts to play with one another? I think it's a, I think it's a cultural thing within that organization. James Hardin, James Hardin. James Hardin. No, no, James Hardin did something, or they did something to James Hardin that, okay, see, he was trying to do. They were trying to, six men made a certain amount, right? So a lot of people who were starters, they put them in the six-man row so they can keep

a four in them. Yeah, I got a 20-point score. You know, for this. Yeah. They were trying that with James Hardin. Into Houston come and said, hey, hey, hey, I'm giving you the max over here, buddy. You didn't even got to worry about all that. So once they did that, it kind of, like, changed it.

Right? It kind of changed it. Then he's going to be in that same mode where you're going to be looking at 16. Well, think about it. Reggie Jackson came after that. A couple other dudes came after winning that six-man row, and they got six-man deal. But 60-10. But nobody's looking at Harper as a six-man.

No. They're looking at it. So when he comes in, even if he's averaging 16, they're going to be like, you know what? We'll give you the match. What's up? Yeah, no, they got, don't let him win a championship.

Now, that's just off the table. Yeah, that's definitely, that's definitely what they got to worry about. Hmm? I think that timeline still plays a part in all of this. But the timeline goes against first, it doesn't go for it. You're going to.

Remember, I got a win. You got three, you're on a three-year timeline to figure. out how to save enough money for this dude. Wild people are expecting.

You know what I mean? Expecting to get big money. Do you build around that big three of Cassle Harper and Wendy? Because you can sign all of them. Absolutely. You're going to mean a situation like the Thunder where you don't have to figure it up.

It has to be like the Knicks. But it's like the same thing that the Knicks are experiencing. To an extent. But Wimby, yeah, obviously. With Jalen Brunson coming up, you know. It's like, it's like,

It's like okay C, but two years earlier. That's the problem here. These guys went to the championship now. Yeah, right. Yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? They're on an accelerated timeline. What did you say they expect it?

Two years? Six years? You've been happy with top. Got two? So now it's like you don't up the any way faster. Dylan Harper not only proved himself, but overly proved himself. Right. Now you got a good problem to have over.

over the next two years, but you're going to have to be smart enough to figure out, all right, Wemby was the first dominoe. You can say, hey, culture says, if you want to be here,

but who says somebody don't do that with Castle? And say, hey, Castle, come over here, rock out, because Castle, like, hey, we may want you to take a pay cut because, you know, we got Harper. He's like, well, I can go and do my thing over here

You think I keep Castle over Harper? Yeah. They're both. That's a real conversation. You need them both. I need them both. Like what they both bring is so different. But you also need Basel.

That penny. You need Basil. I don't. I don't think they're doing. Yeah, you do. Yeah, you do. I got to sacrifice somebody. Like, I got two six, six.

He's hard to find. No, no. He's hard to find. He's hard to find. Two six, six guards with 40-inch verticals that start. That is hard to find. But one of them can't. He's hard to find.

Can he stop him? Doug, in this league, in this league, as many people that shoot threes and as many people who gun, he is different. I can find. He is a bona fide. He's a bona fide two. You've taken a bona fide two off the market. He is a legitimate fucking scoring two guard.

He defend. He can get to the hole. And he shoot the hell out of the three. I can find, I can find, I can find somebody to shoot. Who? Who? I can find a white boy to shoot. Who?

No, you can't. I got all you taught a shoot. You can't find that. You can't find that. Both, both of my point guards are stronger, taller, and more athletic. And you need the ex-factor. So if I'm, he is the ex-factor. You need the shooter for Wendy.

He's the ex-fuck. I know, but I got two people that I'm gifted. You need that X-Factor. I got a number two pick in, a number of. four picked. Okay. I'm sorry. There's a reason I picked him at two and four. Doug, Vassel can go from 40. Very fast. After somebody passed it to him. Very fast. If someone's passing it to him. Castle, he can get 40, but he got to go get it. Harper got to go get it. Right? Vassal's 40 compliments

everything that Wimby does. Everything Wimby does without interrupting what Wimby is doing. Castle 40 interrupts Wimby. He's flow. And that is going to be a problem. And also, and also, if he's going for 40, it interrupts the flow of what they got going because he don't, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a bulldog bully score, get to the basket. Harper, same thing. Transitioned bulldog bully get to the basket.

You need that kid that can space the ball. That's going to be. Dribble the ball. Who? Get on his own. Ibock it to James Hardin. because you have Wemby and Vaseel

Right? And Chimpeen He needs the spacing But then you have two elite guards Right So when payday comes When payday comes Are you going to spend your money

On one of your elite guards Or are you going to spend it on Vaseel for Wembe But you got another That's what happened with I Baca They signed Ibaka thinking that they needed them And then you don't have enough money for James Harder It comes up But they got Vassel for a couple more years

They come up the same time. Vassell signed 20 and 29. My point is, my point is, he seems like the one that would probably take the sacrifice for the younger guy. Ms. Harper up. You think everybody's going to sacrifice. Every like, well, I don't know. Where does fucking sacrifice?

The stars sacrifice, not the middleman. The market is going to dictate that too. I don't know where y'all think, the sacral. I think everybody got a sacrifice. This is a star sacrifice. This is not your average NBA team. The star fucking. You're going to keep getting max.

This is Spurs culture. If you sacrifice it and then somebody's going to give me a little extra money, I'm taking it. This is Spurs Culture. Because I'm not going to get another deal like this. So if you're going to give me 40 and someone's going to give me 75, nigger, I'm taking 75. I'm not going to be able to make that extra 30. You can't. You can't because you're going to sign Max, Max, Max, Max, Max, Max.

This is Fers Culture, Gil. We've seen that list. They sacrificed and they still make $600 million. Right. $500 million. All the money does sacrifice. James Harder sacrificed. Larry, what was he's the day?

Morrie's a liar. He's still in the top eight of all-money sign ever. You think anybody on this team is sacrificing? No way. Give me all my duckies, God damn it. But you got to take what they give you. Spurs culture, bro. You got to take all what they offer you, too.

I get it. Spurs culture. the who becomes expendable, who doesn't. That's the point of it. What I do know is young teams. They might be playing trees in San Antonio. But I'm saying young teams, when they become successful, go fast, the money.

You've got to pay everybody. It's hard to pay everybody when you're young and you're successful. Because the money is not playing for it. The money wasn't playing for it in OKC. The money's not playing forward in here. When we're all making it to the playoffs and we only 19, 20, 21,

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But you ask for like four or five oil rigs? Is this a couple oil rigs? Just a couple oil rig. If I'm the Spurs, if I'm spur, if I'm any team in Texas, you might as well investigate me. If you see me, I'm telling you right now, if you see me with any type of job, any type of. Any type of corruption. Any type of job inside of that organization, look me up. You're going to have oil rigs.

You're going to have oil money. There's going to be something of Kentucky fried chicken. Gilles. Corruption is not. Corruption is not. A water burger? Except it unless Gil is involved. Then it's cool.

All that oil money over there. Gill is not a part of corruption. You got Dallas Cowboys. Unless he is involved. Jerry Jones over there, Jay, Jerry, man. Let me slide some of that money. Waterburger, what about the, um, Waterburger?

He no business. What about the Waterburger? What about the Waterburger? You could have did a water burger. All I'm saying is, shit is affordable if you use all the resources around town. Some got hopes and dreams, the Spurs got ways of means, Gil.

We already know that. But let's keep this thing moving. Last time we saw Tyrese Halliburton, game seven of the 20-25 NBA Finals, when he tried to wheel his squad to the first chip in franchise history after one of the most clutch post seasons in NBA history

but the all-NBA guard saw his season in the Pacers' title hopes come to an unfortunate end in the first quarter of that game when he suffered a torn right Achilles, the injury kept him out for all of last season as the Pacers went from barbecue to Mildew

finishing with the second worst record in the league while also losing their top four protected pick for the Clippers in the Zubach trade top four protected, Pacers got fifth Clippers took that pick But Halliburton makes his return after missing last season, and at Pacers Media Day Monday, he was a source on both his health and the state of the franchise.

Oh, before you ask a question, I'm healthy, I'm 100%. There will be no restrictions. That is not news. There is no source. I am the source. I'm good. I'll be ready to go for the year. You know, but I think that's the fun part about it, just going into the season.

I think we've always internally had expectations that reach beyond what people believe externally. And so from a team perspective, we don't have any conversations about anything about winning a championship. That's our goal. There's nothing more to talk about. There's no small wins. To me, it's like the year's successful

if it win a championship. If it's not successful, that's the way I view it. You know, I want to win. That's what I'm here for. So, you know, I think that's very exciting for us as a group. And I think our message as a group,

like we've spent so much time over the past three years, constantly talking about what the goal is going to the year, what we need to do. I don't know. I feel like this is a year where we've spent so much time together. I feel like we know each other like the back of our hands. Like there's not as much conversation as there's been in the past.

We know what it is. We know what our expectations are. And so, you know, I feel like the conversation is not needed as much about what our goals are. The more needed about, you know, correction on certain things and how we reach those goals. I feel like that's more the conversation versus, you know, remember we're trying to win a championship. Like that's not a conversation. We know that. So you look at how he'd be joined by some familiar facers, familiar faces from the Pacers,

2025 Eastern Conference Championship Squad. I know you're down on the Pacer, so I don't even want to talk to you about this. But you got Pascal Seaccombe, Andrew Nebhardt, Aaron Neath-Smith, T.J. McConnell, OB-Topping, also in Indiana, also added a Vizzoobach and the newly acquired Kelly Ubre, Jr. So both Miles Turner and Benedict Matherin, no longer with the team, but Pacer are trying to bounce back, prove they are. still a threat in the east. Boogie, we'll start with you.

Will the Halliband pick up where they left off and terrorize the East, or has the Pacers' window been shut? I think that'll be a good team again. It was just, it really stood out to me how, you know, you lose one player in Halliburton the way you did, and you go from a finals team to the worst team in the East.

So that stood out to me a lot. and I don't really know how to take it. It's either Halliburton is that damn good or maybe y'all kind of got playoff look and got rolling at the right time because one injury shouldn't have a drop-off. Like you should at least still been a playoff team or a play-in team.

So I'm interested to see what this group looks like. Obviously, you know, they lost two players from that finals run team. They did pick up a good big in Big Zoo. I did like that addition. But I'm interested just to see how this team, you know, comes back together. I do think there will be a good team in the East. I think there'll be a playoff team at worst or play in.

And the reason I say that as well is because the East has gotten so much better since that last run. And then it's been so much time. A year off is, I mean, that's a long time in sports years. You can become a totally different team a year later. Shit, we watched the Sacramento Kings go from third in the east, competing with Golden State in the first round, go all the way to game seven. That next year, they didn't even make the playoffs. So it just goes to show you how fast, you know, sports continues to evolve and change.

So I'm happy to get, you know, Halley back on the floor. I'm a huge fan of them. Like I said, I do think Indiana would be a better team, but if their expectations are where they left, off, that might be a bit of a reach as of right now. So you're highly 24-25 season, average 19-9 assists for a rebound. So I'm saying from a facilitation distribution standpoint, also from the scoring, you lose that like you mentioned.

They go from, I believe, fourth in the east to the fourth worst record in the NBA. But you got Halley back, said he's healthy. We saw Jason Tatum, obviously had a similar Achilles injury, be able to come back earlier than expected this past season, help the Celtics in their postseason quest. but BD, when you look at Hallie in this Pacer squad, was that just a fluke, or is this team still threatened the East? No, I think Halliburton is one of the most important superstars to their team. I also think he's one of the smartest players in our league.

Like you put him up there with Joker as far as just basketball IQ. When you think about them losing in the whole game seven but gets into finals, when I looked at that team and I was like breaking down the team I was like yo they're the most dangerous small ball team because they have all the versatility and then that's when

Halliburton becomes an X factor as a 65 point guard because he knows he knows when to shoot, when the pass when to set people up and then you got what is it Nimhart Nimhart? Nymardt?

Andrew Nymhart Yeah he's good You got the knee-Smith guy who plays super hard. Pascal going to a five position. I do think they need to find a Matherin type of player. They also need to find a Miles Turner type of big. That's going to be a compliment to, you know, being able to go down downstairs to Zubach.

But I do think Indiana is a legit contender. Because when you use the name of the game is, small ball. And they have the versatility. And then with Halliburton, now you play a small ball with somebody who don't have a shot blocker that he has to trick at the rim.

Like he had his way throughout that entire playoff run. And I do believe if he was, you know, 100% healthy, then I would have picked Indiana to win game seven over OKC just for that factor. Right?

And you saw, you know, putting a T.J. McConnell in that same situation like there's a huge difference and a huge drop off right shout out to T.J. McConnell has a great backup so I think Indiana matches up well against Philly they match up well against New York my other team in that would be you know Boston or Toronto they match up well you know you pull in a guy like Ubre who also can knock down shots he played defense he play hard so they got a They got a brand and a style of basketball.

And Halliburton is so key to that because he has all the codes and the magic tricks to make everybody play and feel that much more at ease. You got to see your face. You look very enthusiastic right now. You're not in Indiana. Hell on all.

Why not? Huh? Why not? That shit was two years ago. It was good two years ago. Yeah, he was playing. Yeah, he was playing. He was playing two years ago.

The team was playing two years ago. The NBA has changed in two years, so you're coming back with the same shoe, but a little dent on it. It got a little mark on it, right? It's his right leg, which is very different than being your dominant jumping leg. So, you know, I don't see it affecting him

as it did to players in the past. But, you know, some of those side steps, Some of those side steps will change, but I'm not worried about him. You didn't upgrade not a damn person on his team. You're talking about I lose my star guard, and we have a potential of everybody's stepping up and you're telling me nobody did? Like this is my one player is that good to get us to the championship and y'all can't be eight, seven, six? Exactly. Like that's the difference between the championship team.

By design. You lose your main player, your number two supposed to be able to carry it. Huh? That's not a good design. That's a horrible design. They were supposed to finish lower so they get a lower pick, right? Yeah, I mean, we will hope, we will hope that they would have got the poor pick. Finals?

I mean, if you tanked it that bad. I feel like they tanked all last year. It would have to because, I mean, it looked real, it looked real bad. It looked real bad. It looked real bad. Like, yeah. What was that? No, no, no.

They were tanked it. Like, when Bull. Bulls lost their roles. They still made it to the playoffs. Time out. How did they start the year? I thought they started the year off. They traded for Zubak to get the trap.

No, no, I'm saying when the year started, did they not start off well? Hell, hell no. They got off to a rough start. They got their ass with from the beginning. Yeah, they never got more. They figured when they traded, they figured that Zubach trade because they traded all the picks. And then the clippers, what are the clippers going to do with them picks? that they got from Zubox.

Keaton Wagner, I believe, was a... Oh, yeah, like, we would... Well, let's tank it out, so we finish in the top three. I wanted to ask you a question. You said something about, you know, they're the best small ball team in the league. Two years ago. Okay, I was going to say...

Yeah, last year... Apparently where we are now, you all think it's still a small ball league? No. I'm about to say the league big of shit now. It's never been a small... Like, it's never really been a small... It's a small...

Smaller... ...le... but not a small ball championship league. Yeah. Like, ever since Golden State. I think small ball is done. Like, it, after Yolkish got his, I think small ball went out to week. I got to remember, Yokish, they're talking about even Jason.

Those dudes are small. Like, to me, all those are these. There's still a big team. Thanks. You play with one, five, and four guards. Even OK, OK, C. No, but when we talk about small ball, we talked about a four man. Yeah, yeah.

Five. Yes, we're talking about Draymond being six, five, six, six, six, six, six, seven playing center. I think, that's small ball. I mean it like more like one, one big, four smalls. Yeah, that's not. Like, when you go to your smallest, when you go to your smallest lineup, right? So every team has one big that starts so big that come off the bench, right?

Indiana, when they start putting Obie Topping, Pascal, you know, that lineup, Obie at the five, Pascal at the four, Pascal at the five, Obi at the at the four that small to me because now it's like a guard could still guard Pascal or Obie Top and similar to the Knicks it's like I don't consider it small ball but when you take a Mitchell Robinson out or you take cat out and you go smaller right teams have to adjust to that and so now you're the bigger of the smaller you know what I mean like you can match that but that was the bull that was the bull's secret that nobody paid attention.

Yeah, when they brought in cool coats. Yeah, they were technically a small ball team because Robman, that six, like they were small ball but big because everybody across the board was six seven. Right, you know what I mean? You know what I mean? You know what I mean? So it's like they get one through switch everything. Switch everything.

But the championships, okay, see, you still have two, seven foot. You can go six three, six three, six three, seven foot that changes. That's not small. Right. Right. LeBron teams was a small because he's big. Wimby, I don't care what the lineup is. That's not small ball.

That's what everybody's matching up. That's what I was thinking when you said that statement. I'm like, motherfuckers matching up for Wembees now. And they, going back to two years ago, I'm like, that ain't going to work. You got champagne. You got champagne, Vassel, Gassel. Yeah, they're all. Yeah, but I got seven six.

They all small. So I can play this trick all I want to, but I don't have a seven six to put out there that cleans up everything. So you can play five, like, you can have a small girl. You got to have them trees behind. Like when I was with a- But you can play, I can't. You can probably play a four on Wemby. I can't.

The way Wimby plays, you can play a four. What four? I can't. Because if he had, he- Played OG on him. If he has any thought, O.G's a specific type of four. But that's what I'm saying is,

if they have any thought, just dive to the basket. But I'm saying, if I was just say, just dive to the basket and you just put that thought in this and he just goes there. He's not comfortable there yet. When he did do that, just dive, just diving along.

No, he was eating. He was successful. Just diving along does what to a defense? Oh, shit, he's coming. I got to do what now. I got to try to hold him up. He was getting little fouls just holding him up. They were trying to rough him up from going down there.

And he was getting all those files, got into the penalty real early. The next game he didn't do it. But when you're talking about small ball, you have to think about what is actually small now. You got Orlando with 2-16 guys at the 2-3-3-4. Versal. Versal. You know what I mean? That's not a small team.

Exactly. You got Miami. They're center and power force. That's not small, right? You got Houston. No lineup they put out can be small. Washington, big. Right, that's Washington.

So trying to play this power forward at six, five, six, six, six, you're going to get your ass torn up in the playoffs. Trying to pull that lineup out. Because Orlando can put a lineup where your shooting guard is Frank. Right. Right? He plays shooting golf small forward type. So you got to.

And the four. I know. That's what I'm saying? So you got a lineup where I can go 16, 16, 16 at the 3, 4. If you can guard them with 6-4-day. Shit, Utah's biggest shoot. Wagner and all of them dudes can be guarded by smaller guys. That's what I'm saying.

Listen, I don't know what defense is you looking at. I don't know what game. Think about it. Like, everybody plays an ISO game and shoot jumpers. You ain't telling me one dude. Wagner, you ain't telling me one dude. Well, let's talk about the championship. Well, okay, let's talk about the championship team.

Yeah, if I'm going to play five out with two, six, ten guys so you can put a six, two, six four guy on me, then you're dumb. There's an, if I see, if I see a small ball lineup and I got six, ten, six ten, six ten. If my team shoot a jump shot, fire me. Your team shot. Fire me. They shoot. I'm not shooting no jump shot. I'm Paul Pierce.

Everyone just dot to the power. They don't throw it up. When have you, tell me when you say that. That's why they're dumb. Tell me. That's why they're, that's why they're. What have you seen? What have we seen that?

That's what I'm saying? Like you can go small now because bigger dudes, like they're so accustomed to playing on the perimeter. Yes, they are. So even if you do got two bigs, right, Miami, fuck the game up because they got versatility. They got versatility in the four and five. Washington, you go take SARS or whomever out at the center, you put AD at the four.

Now you bring another guard in, man, that's, it's going to be hard to stop that. But New York can do that with cat. So now all of these fours, stretch fours, seven-foot stretch fours, they're going to be fives down the stretch. The lane going to be open and you're going to have to get it how you get it. And you've got to be a good one-on-one player in order to, like, Like, create opportunities. That's why San Antonio with Castle, Harper, Fox, Vassal, Champany sitting out there.

Wimmy can sit out there. New York. That's what makes Jalen Brunson so dangerous because what are you going to do? How tall is OG? 6-9. He can match up with any... I'm sitting there like, well... You're big-ass-for, bro.

Times is all of right. And he's as strong as shit. Catt is. Seven foot. I mean, so that, like, even though that lineup looks little, it is six, seven. Bridges is six, five. Yeah, so that's not really a little team. That's not really a little team.

With the seven two wingspan? Yeah, that's not, yeah, that's not a little team whatsoever then. But Indiana matches up well against that. So, but you're talking about that's a real. Gil, please stop. And listen, unless they were tanking. I don't think they were tanking. They got fine last season for tanking.

Oh, they did? Yeah. They got fine for tanking along with the job. They beat the Knicks. They were not trying to win. They knew we didn't have Halley for the season. Before the Knicks, Indiana was there, and I definitely But then they tried to finesse and keep their top four pick

and ended up getting the fifth pick. But it's still like it. You tell me. I think they're a sleeper, yo. I think they're sleeper. The only team that looks normal to them in the East is the Knicks, with the Knicks having confidence. every team they faced two years ago is very different.

That's what I'm saying. Which doesn't bother them. They're not bothered by them. Orlando ain't the same. No way. You got to be. No way. You have to be because we're not.

Y'all haven't seen them with Halliburton. We have. No, you haven't. No, you have. The last time you saw them, we beat you. Yeah, the last time you got good last year when we were taking. And this year. Now we're coming back and like we like what we got.

You got the same office. Aliburton makes that shit go. Yeah, I agree on that part. Yeah, you got the same team. Cleveland. We like our matchup with Cleveland. No, you don't. Yeah, you do.

They didn't have a James Hardin then. Yeah, you do. They didn't have a James Hardin then. Now they do. I like my matchup against team. And Peyton. Like, we changed. I like my matchup still.

Oh, he changed. I got Halliburton. And James Hardin ain't going to play no D. Halliburton ain't going to play no deal. Halliburton is going to manipulate the game. Halliburton manipulates the game. He's gifted.

Halliburton takes big shots. He's just trying to get to the end where your mistakes are going to be his win. He's not fucking up. He's not turning the ball over. None of that shit. You know what I mean?

He's not taking it. Like, he's going to take some crazy shots, but usually he make him. He knows how to play down the stress. He's gifted, but I'm bringing him back the same motherfucking team from two years ago. I haven't upgraded for him. Like that's the problem. You got Zubak, that's different.

You got Kelly Ubrae. You got Kelly Ubre. That's different. I think Zuh might fuck up and don't get me wrong. I love Zubak, like one of my favorite teammates. But as far as the style of play that made them flourish when they were a finals team, it was a run-and-gun system. You had Miles Turner being a big that could stretch the pool.

He was out. No, he wasn't. No, he was out the game. That's what got him paid. No, no, no. You had a few times in the beginning. The point that's making it is the lane is now clogged when you have big zoo down there. You start, you just start.

And the pace slows down. Yeah, you start different. But they ramp, they shit up. They ramp up. They ramp up. Man, AFC better. Remember in the playoffs, Miles Turner was getting shots. Miles Turner first half.

By the end of the game, Miles Turner was hardly in as a shot blocker as a That was Obie Topping Nimhart Neesmith Pascal Halliburton

Or matter They don't know what the Spurs Last time they played the Spurs Spurs was trash They face it a juggernaut now Last time they played Philly It was just in Bede That's a whole new team over there

I think they're a sleeper darling They're sleeping They're putting it there'd be better You got to get a chance. You got to give them a chance. We gave them a chance. They're out the east. They're going to definitely be top four.

They had a chance to upgrade just a little bit. They're going to be four or five out of the east. I don't think so. What? I don't think so. Yeah. The last time they played Miami, Jimmy Bullock's over there. Nick.

Miami. Now is Janice. Philly. Toronto. Toronto. Toronto. Boston. Boston.

Boston. Boston. Boston. Boston. Boston. You got nobody. You got Tyrese Halliburg, Gilda Halliband. That'd be tough hard.

I got them back. I got them back. Debbie Top Bar. With a possible spare. With smooth fare. So I got, I got a Lamborghini. Boston different. I'm not rolling with Boston.

Boston is fine. You still got Atlanta. No set back. No set back. They're a good team. And they got better. They seven, eight. Who?

Atlanta. I think Atlanta better than Indiana. Indiana right now. Who did Atlanta get that makes them so much better? They got Lou Gort. Angel Lee. They got somebody, dude. I'm not, you know.

And let, come on, dude. Come on. Come on. Come on. They're the only team that play well against the Knicks in the playoffs. That's true, boo. But when you're talking about Atlanta didn't get better than me. When you're building on something, you got to add something.

They got better. They added some pieces. They didn't. You got Ludoor, Aaron Wiggins, you got some Flamings. But you got Jailon Johnson. Dyson Daniels and Nicole Alexander Walker all ready to They got better, bro I'm just saying they have a crew over there

Paper. Ain't on your paper. All right, well. On paper. On paper. Like, I believe it. Yeah, how do that and all that? Like all you're saying all that?

How do it work? What was there? I believe in, listen, I believe in Hallie. Give me something. It also went on the Winstreet going into it. I think they went like 10 games or something like that. Who did? The Hawks.

Yeah, the Hawks was balling last year. They're a better team. No way. They went on a 10 game 11 game win streak. Yeah, that was, man, that was a streak. Like them in Detroit. Going into the playoffs?

Yeah, everybody gets hired. Like, Indiana, Detroit, it just like, for the success you had, you didn't add pieces while the teams that were successful added pieces. Like, so it's like, like when you look at championship teams that's going for the back-to-backs,

they're adding to their team. They're not keeping the shit the same. In Detroit, like, Kay got a player at the MVP level. They got a play out of it. I lost the buyers and I lost during. Yeah. That nigger done. He's done.

He done. Because unless they give him 285, he ain't happy this year. He's mentally done. That's what I'm saying. We've watched this train every single time. Cleveland is no way. It's done. The way they got beat last year in the playoffs, they're over.

They got better. Who did they get here? Peyton Watson. He is a good young and a full season with Jane Hardin. I love Peyton. Full season with Jay Gordon. I love Peyton.

He's a Bruin. He's a Bruin. But when you look at Cleveland, the way they lost last year, is Peyton Watson the difference that they need it. James Hardin is playing and going to training camp with this team

and them actually knowing each other, that changes. All right, well, he did go, he showed up mid-season. Mid-season, hand-hurting everything. thing. It's still playing.

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So with Halleyback and Healthy, the Pacers are projected to win 44 games this season, 66% of traders thinking they will hit that mark. 64% of traders thinking they will fall short of that projection. But this is the Pacers. Are they an 82 game team? Are they a 16 game team? 44 wins. They were in four C when they were.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ask me a question. They were for a year ago. Everybody has gotten better since then and you think they had top 40. They were tanking last year, but I said you were so good. Tanking for his team. I moved to five. I got about the four.

Let me get out that top four. ASEF. Please. Gilbert J. Rinnis. Why does your shoe always keep on tying? We got the shoe on tying ghosts here and here. I don't know.

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Carlisle is a good old poster. Carlisle, Carlisle and won all that. Everybody making all these changes and upgrades. y'all got to develop some chemistry dog you got to make sure that the system work that this new dude coming in is coming in and he's ready to take it to another level or he has to figure out what level can he get to playing on this team new coaches new stars right what is the cleveland situation going to be with donovan mitchell and james hardin and payton wasson and evan mowgli and uh the big dude and what you got coming off the bench What did you keep? Because you made some trades. You were shuffling some people. Detroit.

What do you look like? You just paid your top defensive player and didn't pay your center. And you got an MVP candidate that need a complimentary shooting guard and a couple other pieces. What do that look like? Toronto. Y'all got Kawai and Scotty Barnes that look good. But what do it look like? Philly.

Y'all got four superstars. and a young star. What do that look like? Who coming off the bench? And who's going to dive? Who's going to dive? I got two-parties. Make quarter-threys.

Get rebounds and pass the ball. Did I say under? You said lower than 44 wins. I'm going to keep taking lower. Even lower than that. You want double lower. They didn't start the season off tanking. And they started the season off.

Loss, loss, loss, loss. Lost, loss. With no halibet. Loss, lost, loss, lost. Yeah, you already know. Lost, lost, lost, lost. They were fine. They wasn't taken in the first 15 games.

Yes, they were. How did you know that information? Yes, they were. Yes, they were. No, OK, C. Okay. Hey, look, bro, they started to see. Yeah, the first one, then it was Memphis.

That's what I remember. And they got whooped by Memphis. They were playing hard as shit first. It is. If I play hard the first game, then you can play as hard as you want. If you don't have your best player, the shit don't work. Thank you. I agree.

You do? Who? Jordan. Jordan? Lebron left, and what happened to the guy? Yeah, but you got a 1A, 1B, and you got a system. LeBron left the Lakers and what happened? But we don't know he didn't come back then.

LeBron left the Lakers or go to Philly. Y'all talking about playing, Gil, with a great thing. You're talking about playing with Luca. Luca. You're talking about playing with Luca. With Luca. Yes. Say that again.

Say that again. With Luka. With Lakers are playing. With Luca. Luca. Again. We had LeBron and Luca and we were where? But you have Lucas, Slovenia, G. Well, I was saying, we had LeBron and Luca.

Then we lose LeBron, so we just got Luca. So we're supposed to go down a little bit. You got Cassel of Walker. Allerburton. You got Walker. Caliburton is the most important superstar. Two years ago. Two years ago. Two years

ago to the team. Boogie, 44 wins for the Pacers? How many did they win the year they went the finals? 50 and 32 that season. Rolling. I'm gonna go down. Yeah. Damn. Tell me what, what record was 44 last year? What

C was that in the playoffs in the east? What was that? 44 wins last year? Let me see. Give me the top five record. That was 10th. That was the Charlotte Hornets. 44 and 30th. I told you 10. Oh yeah, that definitely do 44.

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Let me put my reading glasses on. You mess with my vision. Brendan was on the couch the other week saying Charlotte was going to make the playoff. Boy, that. And thank you to everybody in the super chat who has blessed us with a little bit of bread to ask your questions. I'm going to try to get to all of them. So we got Drew Gotti Fitness said, I'm not glazing like Nick Young. However, from a talent aspect alone, do you all you consider Boogie in AD a top three, four, five duo of all time?

From a talent aspect alone, do you all consider boogie in AD? Oh, talent-wise. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yeah, yeah. Talent-wise, yes. And shout out to Drew Gotti Fitness.

Yeah, it would be just Tim Duncan and David Robinson. Yeah. You got a Kane Ralph Samson. The Twin Towers are. Yeah. Dog, you're talking about... I don't know. Dio or just duo.

Duo? Duo. Duo. Four or five. Yeah, I can say that. Yeah. Duncan, David Robinson, who else we got? Samson and the King, Doug.

James Worth is a small four, right? Yeah. Yeah. Like big men, two big men. Ben Wallace, Rashid, you gotta put them in there. That was tricky, but you gotta put... Carmelonset. He's talented.

Yeah, that was old though. That was Carmelons. Ben Wallace not talented? Rashid Wallace not talented? Who? You got Vladay, Chris Weber. Hell no. Yeah.

Talent. Yeah. You wanted talent. What is super talented? Hey, Meady. Come on, bro. Can you separate him. Did the Vlad can't stand by himself?

Chris Weber, yeah. Blade, get the fuck out of here, man. Vlad had to be matched up with him, talent-wise, or AD talent-wise. I'm just naming big men duo. That ain't it. Bladethe was talented as fuck. At his most talented. At his most talented.

He was very good. Yeah, we know. You know what I mean? Like, you're looking at. Well, everybody in the NBA was good. He was talented. We got a question. A lot of in this conversation.

Question from JRC Invest said, can Kyrie Lee Dallas to the conference finals? Absolutely. They are still investing in Kyrie Lee Dahlia. Because they put up bread. Okay, this ain't got nothing to do with. Absolutely. This ain't got nothing to do with Kyrie. This is the team.

I will ask something strange for a little bit of change. No. The team ain't there. The team ain't there. I mean, technically, they still got some all right pieces. Not the right pieces. They don't fit, though. You just kind of got a log jam.

Yeah, we got to see what these coaches do. Like low-key, I mean. You got a new coach. Maybe you figured out some shit. A championship? No, I mean, the only person that they, left from the last time he runs the championship would have been Luca. Yeah.

Luca's the only person everybody else is still there. Well, who's replacing that 30? Nobody. Nobody. But when you think, I mean, Cooper flag is added. It's a different. It's a different dynamic. Cooper flag was playing a different type of

basketball last year. You're going to have to play a whole different type of game this year. So we've got a comment from Cherchay Legram said Josiah, going to choke on his own breath for wearing that shirt hashtag Nixon 5 that shit is that shit is rather clean yeah the rings

near Halley's mouth though obviously wasn't probably the best choice You lost some weight? No your arm in is as big as it I'm gonna gain it right back after the show Gil we've got some fried fish that's a regular art of a variety of assortments

I have been doing push-ups okay just shaking coaching these kids of greatness at various little league and youth sports around the San Fernando Valley area. So we got Mike, Mike 100. So in the reverse of DeMarcus cousin's situation, what would happen if a male lifted a WNBA player's jersey up to look at their body?

Hey, man, we don't want to find out, brother. We all know that answer, though. Double standard, man. Double standard. Yeah. Got to deal with it sometimes. Let's just respect each other's space, man. For real.

So we've got a question for Marcus Thompson, 3-01 put $5 in the offering place that who had the greatest peak between DeMarcus cousins, Anthony Davis, Joel Embed, and Dwight Howard. Dwight. Dwight. Dwight took a team to the final. Dwight.

Dwight came to the finals. Dwight? It's one year or like a three, four year window? It's like a square thing. I don't know. It's whatever you want to tell you. If he's talking about to, ooh. Dwight.

I'm going to be Dwight or it. Dwight was so. He took a team to the finals. Dwight was, man, Dwight was so good. Jack was hating on him short for the Super Bowl. Dwight don't get his flowers. Dwight don't get his flowers, Joe. He was a monster, bro.

Hold on. He was a monster. Because we're talking about just a three-year window, right? Dwight was a good. Dwight was crazy, Doug. Remember you had to do the hack-a-shack to Dwight? We got a few more. While Gil looks that up, we have a comment from Jason,

Mets, Nets, Jets. Jason Metz, Nets, Jets, said, Boogie, I'm a Nets fan and want to know why we took favors over you and you dropped to five. You work out with this question mark? Did favors look better at the Combine? I went crazy in that workout. Could have had you, Lopez, Ann Harris.

You would have been great. Shout out to the bitch-ass Doug Collins. Shout out bitch-ass Doug Collins. Doug Collins, if you're watching this, Boogie would like you know that you are a bitchass. We got a comment from... That's the white running. That the white run is crazy.

It's the white. Hands down, bro. Defense player three years straight. Come on. MVP, runner up, four, four. Come on, bro. All-Star first team, all-N-BA, three-blocks. I mean, it's not close.

Wimby numbers. Like, Embed-Bee, on the point. We ain't talking about it. The point. The point? The point, yes, Embed-Bee. Yes, Embed-Bee, but when you're talking about just dominating. Winby numbers.

Defensively steals blocks. Wimby numbers. and he took a team. And he played 79, 82, 70. When be numbers. Man, we don't need... His three-year run is... He had two great years

where he was going to... Yeah, running up, runner-up and MvP, so 28 and 10, 30 and 11, 33 and 10, but 51 games, 60 games, 68 games. So... But you're only playing 50 games, though? You only play 50 games, though? Because of 10, they put that fucking rule in.

Yeah. Dwight Howard. Dwight. The point, but the point we're missing with all the numbers. The white. The team. The team. First team.

First team. But they changed that rule since then. The Eagles. I should have a first. And then one was defense. One was one, one, one, one, one. But they changed it because of that. Because those runners up made them second team.

All right. Well, that was mostly fans. And shout out to most of our fans. We're putting something in the off-rate play. Blessing. Blessing. Anything else what your gradeness. Hey, we need more women in the art shop, man.

Women spend the bread. Women be shopping. I be, I be looking at nightcare. They be throwing $2, $300 in there. Maybe we need to wait until they get off of where. We might need to change our time for that dough. Does women get off where they be $100, $199? You know what?

You need that, uh... Thank you, baby, thank you. You need that drive home hour. You need that drive home hour. Just saying can be the new Theo. Turn the deep voice on. Shout out to Theo. What a great time in Los Angeles radio.

Oh, damn, Theo. Except when Tupac passed away, I was about your worst time I had to listen to the old. Yeah. Ladies and gentlemen. Yeah, Theo was in the afternoon. When they wind in now, Gila's we gotta get them Theo hours. Shout out to Theo, and then everybody found what they'll look like, and the mood kind of shift. Yeah, it's kind of changed.

The mood did shift a little bit. little bit. This is a Los Angeles thing. You will know anything about it. But shout out to everybody in the chat. Shout out to everybody on this couch. Great day today. We'll be back. Gills making us work five days a week, ladies and gentlemen. Regular season's coming up. We're in preseason also. We are in preseason. This is our Media Day training camp. Top mic. Make sure to turn the mics off after this show in because this has been another episode of Gills Arena presented by Polymarket Power by Playmaker. Whoa! Whoa! We will see y'all tomorrow!