Gil's Arena - Wemby's TAKE DOWN Of The Thunder Fires Up Gil's Arena

Episode Date: December 16, 2025

Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Crew react to The San Antonio Spurs upsetting the OKC Thunder in the semi-finals of the NBA Cup and break down how Wemby & The Spurs used ethical hoops to defeat the reigning NBA Champs. They also highlight the emergence of the NBA's next great rivalry between Wemby, Shai Gilgeous Alexander and Chet Holmgren before reacting to another chapter in the hostile rivalry between Dillon brooks & LeBron James where the king finally got the last laugh as Brooks was ejected in the Los Angeles Lakers win over the Houston Rockets. Finally they break down the other end of the NBA Cup semi-finals where Jalen Brunson powered his New York Knicks over the Orlando Magic with a season high 40 points, sparking a debate on if Brunson is inch for inch the best offensive player in the league. PLEASE give us a Like and Subscribe!! Today's Gil's Arena Crew : Josiah Johnson, Gilbert Arenas, Kenyon Martin, Brandon Jennings & Swaggy P Gil's Arena premieres every Wednesday & Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. Sign up for Underdog HERE with promo code GIL and play $5 to get $75 in bonus funds or bonus entries https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gi... For a limited time, save on the perfect gift by visiting https://AuraFrames.com to get $35 off Aura’s best-selling Carver Matframes - named #1 by Wirecutter - by using promo code ARENA at checkout. Connect with a provider at https://ro.co/arena to find out if prescription Ro Sparks are right for you and receive $15 off your first order. Find out how much your car is worth today, just go to https://www.edmunds.com/appraisal/?ut... SUBSCRIBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAvj... Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos! https://discord.gg/underdog Must be 18+ (19+ in AL, NE; 19+ in CO for some games; 21+ in AZ & MA) and present in a state where Underdog Fantasy operates. Terms apply. Concerned with your play? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit www.ncpgambling.org; NY: Call the 24/7 HOPEline at 1-877-8-HOPENY or Text HOPENY (467369) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Bogie. That's my shit in the game. I've got hit a three. Walk down the court. Okay, okay. We got a lot to get into on the show today. Here's what's cracking in Gills Arena today. The Spurs stunned the thunder to advance to the NBA Cup final.

What message are Wimby and San Antonio sent into the rest of the league about playing ethical basketball. Dylan Brooks tried to poke the bear yet again, but LeBron and the Lakers got the last laugh. Is the beef going too far? And Jalen Brunson put the Knicks on his back for a chance at the NBA Cup title. Is Brunton the best inch for inch

offensive threat in the league? Josh Hart thinks that we will discuss before we get into all that. As always, this show is brought to you by Underdog. If you're new to Underdog, today's a day. Get $75. You got to change that. Inch for inch.

It's not pound for pound. It has to be. It has to be. It has to be. It has to be. It has to be. It has to be. Josh Hart said it for it.

Let him say that. But we not. No, we don't. It's supposed to be pound for pound. They're not talking about pounds. They're talking about height though. But still, that's hot. They're not talking about back.

I don't get a fuck. Sour. No, we talked to the committee. Not a plausible moment. Because pound for pound is height. We just, we just nail it down. Pound for Pound for Pound. off at height. We never said an inch.

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including Florida, California, and Texas. Support the show, claim your bonus, and start playing today with Code Gill. And as always, if you can't watch the show live with us on YouTube, We have audioverts available on Apple, Spotify, wherever you get your podcast. So let's get right to it. The Thunder and Spurs met for the first time this season Saturday in the NBA Cup semis. OKC entered the matchup riding a franchise record 16-game winning streak

with a league record tying 24 and one start. Meanwhile, San Antonio's been holding it down with Wimby's sideline by a calf strain, going nine and three in the 12 games he missed. But Wimby was back in action for this one, and even a minute's restriction couldn't stop the alien from putting on an ethical show in Sin City. Take a look at what went down. So, Thunder came out cooking, using a barrage of buckets to build a double-digit lead. SGA extended his 20-point scoring streak, finishing with 29 points on 12 of 23 shooting.

Chet Homer and J.L. Williams both had 17 and 7 boards, but struggle from the field. Chet was 3 for 8, J-dub, 5 for 16, and his 33 minutes of action. So Wimby came off the bench for the first time in his career, didn't enter the game until the second quarter with his squad, down 11, but he made it, present felt. immediately. Wimby's first in a little over three minutes, the Spurs cut the deficit from 11 to four. And when he went to the bench, Thunder went on a 14-2 run to take a 16-point lead, which was their largest of the game. Wimby came back a little in four minutes, remaining in that first half. Spurs went on a 13-0 run to trail by three at the break. San Antonio minus 23 in the

17 minutes. Winby wasn't on the floor in the first half, plus 20 in the seven minutes he was. Spurs rode that momentum third quarter, taking their first lead to the game, into the period of one. Devin Vassell led the team with 23 points. Dehron Foss, Stephon Castle, both finished 22, but the fourth quarter was wimby time as he scored 15 of his 22 points in the final frame, also had nine rebounds and two blocks. It's a good pass. It might be the best game of year. It might be a nice little running.

It was an exciting game. I know Adam Silver happy. You see it, the Caruso. White American John. So game went down to the wire, as you can see, eventually turned into a free throw battle, but SGA was doing his thing to try to keep the thunder, head in the right direction. And this right here, Caruso's grill, Zachray Blue. Better O.

Spurs opted to intentional foul to not allow the Thunder opportunity to hit a game time. Three, I was with the game on the line. It took 12 minutes for the final 10 seconds of the game to play out. Okay, see, at one last chance, final moments. Jalen Williams missed that free throw. Rousseau got it. They did not call foul, sir. Wowed their whistle.

That was that. first handed the thunder their second loss of the season first since November 5th for the game San Antonio was a minus 19 with Wembe on the bench plus 21 with him on the court French Fremont threw a little shade after knocking OKC out of the NBA Cup You know some people are built for these moments

some aren't but we definitely are and it shows because it's not against anybody that we won that game so it's just again I feel lucky I'm glad we have this group because everybody buys into this and everybody is built for these moments. I'm just glad to be a part of

something that's growing to be so beautiful and so pure and ethical basketball, you know. So Wemby, what's your got going on? My bad. It's a grown man show. What are we doing? No, I'm just kidding. Wimby clarified that statement a little bit more with following us in a modern basketball.

of brands of basketball that don't offer much variety in dangers they propose to the opponents lots of isolation balls sometimes kind of forced basketball we try to propose a brand of basketball that can be described as more old school sometimes the spurs way as well so it's tactically more correct basketball in my opinion but that's neither here nor they're looking at this game you're talking what I mean ethical you're playing normal basketball so they did post-ups and then give it to the big and did our overall Or did the guards? You said less heavy isolation?

Or did the guards isolate all the bigs on the other team? Pure and He box. Not isol everybody did not vassal, iso everybody. The castle did not ISO everyone. It was three guards who did all the heavy lifting. The other two niggas wasn't even involved in this basketball game. And then you had Wimby. So it was three guards and Wimby. Lay Pure and lay Ethic.

I don't know what ethical game they was playing when he got in, but before he got in the game. It was Harrison, you sit in that corner The other one, you sit in that quarter I'm going to ISO back. That's why they was minus 23 when he was off the court because they was playing ISO basketball

trying to ISO this team. That's what they was doing. It was 20, 20, 20, probably zero and three. Nobody was paying attention to have the two spurs. Three guards, Viseel, 23. The line cast with Aaron Fox, both had 22, when we had 22 off the bench 15 in the fourth quarter.

But we're going to talk about that more in a second. What statement did the Spurs make with their win over the thunder in the NBA Cup? They got better ISO players. They got three shades out there? No. Wee. What they showed was,

like we know they play hard, they don't give up, but Wendy is a difference maker, clearly. Because of his height, because of his mismatch on the offense in, I'm sorry, but that Caruso on him, that bullshit is not going to work. Because all he has to do is catch it, turn, and shoot.

That's actually, he don't actually need to put the ball on the floor because, like, he just catches it turns, he's this little, and he can shoot the ball, right? You're hoping he stays young and wants to always put the ball on the floor. But there's going to come a time where he says, hey, hold on, I am seven, fucking six. I don't need to dribble. let me just catch it turn you got it now you got to take your hand off me and let's shoot the ball

like it's it's that easy for him because he did the same shit on Chet and Chet is the end of the same height you little okay there we go so it is really a difference maker in the fact that Chet couldn't even

guard him or wanted to guard him that's eye opening that was a bit you don't think that was a tough shot no It's a tough shot because he's putting it down. He's putting it down for that to happen. For him to strip it.

For him to strip it. If he just turned and face, I know. They're going to strip. He got stripped a little bit and caught him and shot it. But once he decided to go up and shoot it, there's Caruso's not there. He's not saying, yeah, I know that. They think he had some success on Nicola that shit was going to work. He's the Eurostopper?

No, you can't do that. You can't treat everybody. There's a different skill set. Yeah. Right. Nicola needs to get to those spots. Women can just turn and shoot. So, you know, it's.

I like it. Victor Wamba, Wamba, as he's known. I mean, they're good. I mean, they're good. When they're healthy, they're very good. I mean, that was a big statement game for them. Only thing is they got to turn around to see them again on the 23rd and on Christmas. So they got two more chances at them before, you know, before next year.

So, you know, it's a big test for them. You know, they can get them the next two games, you know, that's going to be big going into next year for the Spurs. I got to get both. Can they just get one of them? I mean, one. I mean, but this is not like, I mean. I mean, this is like, you know, this is like really like a playoff series for them. They got to beat them on a birthday.

They have to play this team for Spurs to get confidence, right? They got to beat them twice. Yeah, for their confidence, if they do that, yeah. Now you're like, oh, cut. It wasn't. Yeah. And the Spurs on Spurs, they bung them off the bench.

That's some pop shit right there. The team was jealous. I mean, missed the last 12 games with the cap straying. He was plus 21, too. We talked about this last week. I think you guys said this would be a tougher game for him to come back. Yeah, I wouldn't pick this game. I wouldn't have picked this game to come back to, but he did.

But come off the bench part. They didn't know, this is a sign that they don't know how to manage the minutes. And if he's on a minute restriction, so instead of playing him at all in the first quarter, you're like, I'll just save it, which it came out. He worked in their favor because he had 15 in the fourth. So he played seven minutes, second quarter. He played five minutes in third quarter, and he played nine minutes in the fourth quarter, have 15, 922.

Yeah. So they're going to the forefront? But y'all don't agree? Y'all don't think it was a good move for then to just let them chill for the whole first quarter? I said it worked out in their favor, but I've never heard of any star the team best player missing time

and coming back and coming off the bench. I just never, I haven't heard. Only the spur was really. I had never seen that. I, just if we're talking about, was it like, it worked because he didn't get hurt? But in theory, he's coming off a calf strain.

The one thing you don't want to do is warm them up and warm-ups and then sit him for 25 minutes. All of that plus 12 game minutes plus times and all that. Like you're sitting him for that cap to get back cold for him now to come in and then rev it up. So you would rather put him like on a LeBron thing. Play him the first four minutes, right?

Because he's already warm, then sit him to rest, then sign him up in the third. I like that. So that was the only thing that I think about. I think about the injury and, you know, him starting that and then going on from that. Yeah, warm it up before the game, getting really loose. They had to concentrate on that area, getting it loose and all that shit. Yeah, for him to go.

I like it because he was going against the second unit when he came in. You don't want him to go against Dirk right away, you know, let him warm up first, you know. Shout out to what's the name, Taylor Johnson, assistant coaches over there. Do you think I know the assistant coach or the... He went to have a pack 12, pack 10. person he played against him you played against him you know what fuck do you get i'm not starting that today okay all right but you got to get up to the role player too though you know you know you know i don't know vassel got paid a hundred assle you know fox you know they was matching them

guys energy you know out there um vassum got 160 you know shit it was like what they all scored 20 yeah many some points i mean you know i mean that's what you got to do it to go against okay You got to match their guards energy. I mean, they was out there fouling. Bissell. Bissell. What I call it? Vassell.

You listening to him? Cassell. Devin Boussel. Cassell. Cassell. B-U-H. I told you all match up. Man, the Midwest or whatever.

Match it well. But Brock Winnie in second quarter. Like I said, played them at three minutes, a little bit over three minutes. They cut the deficit from 11 to 4. Put him on the bench. Thunder went on a 14-2 run, built their largest lead of the game. Put Winby back in into the second quarter. into the second quarter.

It makes him better defensively, man. He eliminates a lot of fuck-ups and deficiency, all them straight lines to the rims and those different things. You're not getting that. When he's out there, he covers so much, so much ground. Yeah, and he matched up.

He is a deterrent. That's what you call a deterrent. Yeah, they were like negative 12. Essentially, I think they went down negative 12 when he was out, and it was plus 20. When he was on that. floor, bro. Hey.

Yeah. So. Yeah. Yeah. Shit. They might be closer. They might be close, closer than we think.

Mm-hmm. How close do you think they are first? Well, we got to see, though. It all depends on how Wimby plays offense. That's the difference. Defensively. Defensively, I think, from just last, game to the end of the season, they can, they can really, or just one piece away, they can

really be fucking Detroit Pistons of our era, where you're talking about a team who allows nothing, no threes, no lays, no mid-ranges, because Wimby can guard it all from sitting at the free throw line to, you know, in the middle of the key, depending on his 2.9, you know, count, where he can basically guard that whole goddamn court so he can stop a lot of stuff defensive he just needs one more person like him or not like him but that's about the same no not like him

but let's say a guard form that like a nice little wing a younger Harrison Barre right a younger him that can really you know stop a lot of stuff on the perimeter they can they can shut shit down offensively when he stops and it's the younger basketball version of him

We know what he's going to look like at 25, 26. If he can think about what he's going to be later on and apply that shit today where they have Kuru Sonia. You don't need to put the ball down to do a fadeaway, turn. Like think about how Dirk played the game. Here, job, me, right? I'm not going to waste any energy. When you stop wasting energy.

They play fast. Offensively, it'd be easy. Put you in the post, turn, face, shot. Right, do that for a while. Right now, when they put the bigger guy on you, you dribble. Right, it's easy, you got to play chess. Chet on you, e'er, on this, let's work. Big guy on, I mean, small guy on you, turn face shot.

And then now you got your guards playing one-on-one because that's what they do. I mean, we've seen it with the Lake Show. They was eating Austin Reeves' ass up. And then, like, come on over here. Ain't that another I like, well, I like the end-season tournament because it's one game.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I like that. College field. In the seven-game series, I don't think okay if he lose, though. I don't think so. Not this year. No, man, we'll see these next two games, though.

I mean, 23rd in Christmas. This is one big-time games. Oh, 23rd, I believe, it's in San Antonio Christmas game is in Oklahoma City. Yeah. You're saying the Spurred need to take both of those?

games to feel confident with even splitting those two is they going I mean splitting them I mean I mean the first one I mean I think like you know home take care of home take care home first the foremost then you worry about the next yeah but yeah and then beating the team on Christmas is amen but that's a leg that could be a letdown game for Oklahoma City too you know like playing at home you don't know but tell Christmas is a big deal you're played on Christmas yeah is that playoff intensity like style yeah because we play Boston So it was, yeah. Okay, so that's, it's like rivalry.

Yeah, we put foot to ass. Oh, yeah, I never played, yeah, so I'm trying to figure out with the atmosphere. Wizards, Wizards were not getting. Hell no, they got part of the king or something. Man, we didn't even see. It wasn't even in our hometown. Yeah, I had a couple. I had a couple of them.

I was always on the road. They had a Knicks joint. Yeah, so that's a tougher, that's a tougher environment. Okay. It's dope, though. Yeah, that's fine. Let's go back quickly to what Wimby said about the Spurs playing. pure and ethical basketball do you feel like he was taking a shot at the oklahoma city thunder with

those comments oh confident i think he clarified a couple days later well i'm maddy clarified yeah i read that yeah just get to it what was a clarification he said i definitely read that earlier but he said in minor basketball we see a lot of brands of basketball that don't don't offer much variety in terms of the uh proposed the opponent in the dangers they propose the opponents a lot of isolation ball sometimes kind of forced basketball we try to propose a brand of basketball they can be described as more old school sometimes they don't fit them you say they shoot mid-range jump shots they post that they don't fit the Oklahoma City Dundee at all think it's a general statement

he's talking about the Lakers well whoever I just that could be that fits them more unless he was throwing a shot at just how Shay goes one-on-one but that's That's exactly what they do. But that he was saying by what he meant by ethical, right? But again, that was the same style of basketball, the Spurs was playing. It was playing the same exact. Unfortunately, Lou Dork can't play one-on-one because that's not what he do. He's a defensive player.

Caruso don't do it. That's not what he does, right? So they got two guys who play one-on-one and then you got Chet who play. So they got three. You guys got four. Right? It's not like y'all playing O-Dohs. old school basketball where we say get your big ass in the post right or we're going to do some

pick and roll we're going to switch it they're going to throw it in the pose of you no nigger you out there tween-tween and twing twing twing two oh yeah tween tweaking right tween tweeting tweed and hang dribbling three yeah not fast enough I know spent the whole summer with Jamal coffer right ethical I like it I mean it sound good beautiful beautiful No, okay, see, they make the extra pass. They play the right way, so I don't think that's shot at them. Right?

I think a lot of people are critical of... I mean, FICC's play style, particularly SGA. He can't say nothing no more. He's calling him a foul merchant, foul badder. Well, shit, he was into that game of the day. It was late in the game. He held up, shit, one, two, one free throw attempt? Like, before halftime, like, or something like that, so that don't...

No. What I'm saying? Yeah, I just don't think it's a shot. The way they play. Vessel, Castle, Fox, and Wemby. Wemby. And then shit, Harper, too? Oh, Harper.

They all play. They don't, it's a, it's a, it's basically, they got four, they got literally four ISO guards. I didn't know Vessel got paid a hundred. They got four ISO guards, and then they got Wimby. Everybody else is basically irrelevant. But there's going to be a game where they're going to play all for their guards in Wemby at one point. And they just spread everybody out.

Oh, the Spurs going to have the money to keep all that? What the fuck are you talking about? What conversation are you having? Oh, man. Hey, so you said all for all, like how they did. Orlando with the wife. I pay castle $200. I played five.

I mean, they don't have to make any, at some point. For sure, I really couldn't. Because that's how Van Gandhi played it all four out. Yeah, all four out with Dwight. They're going to do that. They're going to do that at some point. Nah. The only person who's going to be on the out is probably.

Think about it. You said four. But think about this. They got four iceballing. Yeah, they got four people who can just manipulate their, their man, and get a bucket. They have four of those. It's really going to pay.

And they play defense, too. Really going to pay them to winby supermax eligible or not right. If you don't hit these game minimums. Yeah. No, what it looks like is they have to make a decision on Vassel and Harper. Thank you. Because if you're keeping Fox, if you're keeping Fox

then then you're going to keep Harper too he just got drafted who Harper that's what I'm saying so Castle got one year on him so it's so Vassal is the

guy who's movable Can y'all please call this man Boussel? Bacill I'm myself Don't blame me motherfucker Yeah you're Devin Devin we can just call it to Devon

You too, okay they listen to you're like hell no I'm not going to double team to me. They're listening to you. I ain't going to do you said it first. He repeated, then he repeated. So they fucking listening to you. Call this man Vassel.

Vassel. What's that game they got? Cat, cat, cat, cat, cat, dog, dog, dog, dog. Cat, dog, dog. Vassel is going to be the person out. They'd probably see if they could move him and then put Harper in the lineup. And then you. I don't understand that.

I mean, his contract is pretty reasonable. Yeah. Who? Of a cell. That's why they can get rid of them. Because you're not going to get rid of Fox. Fox is a real basket. So he's making 27 this year, 27 next year, 25 in 2027, 28.

What I'm saying is you're keeping Castle. Yeah. For sure. Of course. Right? Harper, you just. You just got. Yeah.

Both of them are 6'6 defenders also. So you would like them to as your backup, your back court in the future. Right? So those two are off the board. They're not going to be thinking about those guys traded. Because those are the guys who's growing with Wimby, and those are going to be the Tim Duncan, Genobley, Tony Parker.

Tony Parker. That's those three. Now you have Devin and Fox. Those two. They're just expecting them. Those are the two players that can be moved. I don't need you to. In two years?

Because I can get bigger. In two years? Yeah, because in two years. those two my two future guys got to get paid Harrison Barnes money come off the yeah come off the bitch but my two first my two future ones and twos and two are just this year and last year so I don't have a lot of time how old is Fox 27 eight yeah 26 you don't want to get rid of him that what I'm saying is they're on out these two are locked in this is my future will wimby younger taller

20 younger taller stronger you're going to see more but but but yeah If they do win it, you still... Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You have to, you know what I'm saying? It doesn't matter what. You have to because the other two, the other two, Fox and Devin, they're both six-four. So my future is six-six athletic. The guys in front of them right now are shorter veterans.

So what if a certain Greco-Nigerian becomes available via trade, if you're the Spurs, would you prioritize holding on to? Then it's not about the future. Castle. Yeah, then it's not about the future. about the future. I'm holding on the castle. I'll get rid of Harper because the castle's proven more. Yeah, I don't. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I get rid of this. He's proven more up to this point. As I said, man, then it's not about your future at that point. Yeah, it's about he was right now. He's one of, you got Janus, which he ain't winning. He's everywhere out

game. That doesn't know. Yeah, now you're talking about like your window is from now all the way to another seven, eight years. I'm not saying it'll happen just, you know. If honest gets there. Their window is all-man, it is December 16th now. A lot of players are now trade eligible. That would be a lot of moves be made over the next one. They get yon. A lot of moves and not be made. How many Greeks would be fake?

The Texas. How many what? No. Greek population. One. Not that I don't. It would be just yon. Two, because you know it's a package deal.

Yeah, brothers. Texas does have a significant Greek population though. This is the mass. Nearly 50,000. We're right there. We're in Texas here. That's a big ass thing. I'm about to say you said you fitted that, all right?

They'd be like, Yannis, you're good to come in with your brother. It's a lot of territory. You keep your ass at that border. There's a boy patrol right there. Guns out. It's right. So just looking at this Thunder Spurs rivalry or becoming a rivalry. It's becoming a rivalry.

That's what we're getting good to. But as Jay and Wimby were asked about the potential of the Thunder Spurs turning into a legit rivalry. Let's hear what they had to say. Do you anticipate this becoming, you know, you know, maybe the best rivalry in the league? Possibly. Yeah, there's a good chance. Like you said, we're young, really good.

Whoever's saying that. A lot of talent, play the right way. They play a good brand of basketball. But yeah, yeah, definitely, definitely is a possibility. I've noticed that, like, anything could happen in a couple years. So, like, yeah, it's definitely a possibility, not 100%, but definitely possibility. I think we're not quite there yet, but it's a good sign that people see that it's possible because it's not like we're the second C right now.

And I don't think anybody right now can claim to have a rivalry with them in the league. They're in their own tier. But in the future, if we can provide it that they stay just as good and we reach that level, of course it would be great to have a rivalry because if you're at the top near you have a rivalry it means you're in the best positions to win titles so I'm very interested by it very interested by rivalries are made in the playoffs I said again rivalries are made in the playoffs regular season games are cool yeah but rivalries are made when you had to play somebody multiple times and long series and it's a dog fighting y'all going after one another and and both y'all are really good like he said he looked forward to that and I'm glad he he was honest with his assessment of himself and his team where they are right now they're trending up of course they are young and hungry and going to get better and the spurs organization has proven when they have the certain players of certain caliber what they can do with that so yeah I'm excited for you for the future what this could be but yes as of now yeah it's still still okayc is it's still a better team i believe but are we are witnessing what could be i mean they both have alluded to

we got two games coming up at the end of this month you know they play four what they play four games meaning it was already pre-scheduled cowbell fun so whoever beats them is that what we're going to do so when when the blazers beat them They did. They did. Is this a rivalry? Is this a rivalry? Is this a rivalry?

Yeah. There's a rivalry. Yeah. There's a rivalry. There's a rivalry. The one guy. Oh, man. What was Spurs last year?

Okay. Wimby was hurt. No, what were they last? Yeah. Okay. So it wasn't a rivalry last year? No. Wembe was hurt.

Are they tie or they fighting for the best record this year? Spurs are tied with the legors for the time? with the legors for the five on the way so are they are they even in the category long enough to be considered a rivalry with anyone right now are they even anyone no you're talking to you're not i'm just hosting kid i'm just saying i'm sorry you're ready that three hours before the show you're asking that you asked that question let's be a right i'm very well Articulated question, I mean. Elite hosting, as the young kids, what I said?

You know, okay, you don't have a rivalry. Yeah, Gil got his ass whooped there. Yeah, why you're taking it out? I'm just saying, like, anybody who beat them in the rivalry. Like, Denver's a closer rivalry than them because they went seven games in the Niles last year. So, that's a closer. Would you consider that a closer? It's a cooler rivalry, I feel like.

It's close. It's close. If they meet again. This is a game. Like, they meet again and go crazy like that. Then, yeah, now it's like, all right. Now we all. Now we got to see y'all.

pushing in their NBA Cup trying to make this thing feel bigger than what it is. I mean, you know, but it's a For sure. I'm with you. He's just saying. The rivalry that no one is ever going to get pleasure from. Is it the pink? Because they could never go

to the championship and face it out with the ring. They can never do that. Yep. Okay? They are going to be whoever, if they face each other before they get there or they get they can never meet.

That's hell. And go against each other there to make it a rivalry. Or the NBA Cup is not Magic versus Bird. NBA Cup. Who was the Lakers rivalry that was in the same? In the West. Yeah, in the West. What the Denver?

Exactly. So this is like Chicago. Is this Chicago versus Detroit? He's talking about then. Is this Chicago versus Detroit distance? Was that a rivalry? It was like a battle. Detroit and Chicago was a rivalry.

They were in the same conference. They were in the same conference. They were in the same conference. Because it was trying to get over to the hump. So it's just going to be what this is right here, right? You've got to get over the home. So it was Boston first, then Detroit, then Chicago. So it's going to be, like, you're trying to take over that team

and with the first workers, that's what this is going to be. But I'm saying it, was it actually a rivalry? If we ask, if we have Chicago, they're going to say it's a rivalry because they never won. Yeah, they were kicking a high. If we asked Detroit was a rivalry, they're going to say, hell, no. Like, kicking their asses. When they got here, we was done. We was over.

Everybody was trying to beat us while we were prime players. Everybody were trying to beat Boston. But can't, like, the players got to buy out of here? One of them making a rivalry. Like, Detroit, I don't feel like that was a rivalry. That's more like Jordan versus fucking...

Detroit? It was. It was we whipping on their little asses. That's what that was. But after they were just the bad boys. Because when you went back and back. Like, is it the players that make the rivalry? Well, it's the team.

Taking it personal. You know, put it like this. This is when you know it's not a rivalry. When they, when they whip your ass so much that you got to create some shit called the Breakfast Club, where... That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying.

Us for, we're going to sit up every morning and we're going to lift weights together. And fuck that team. Just put their picture on the wall. Just put their picture on the wall. Put their picture on the wall. We're going to gain pounds. Mm.

Fuck this thing. That's not considered the right. But that's what I'm saying. But that's what I'm saying. They didn't even know they was... They wasn't even paying attention to them. What about player robberies? That's what I'm saying.

That's because once Jordan, I mean, once I was down, the bad boys left. I think the same position. It was over. That's what I said. Can players make the rivalry? So, speaking of player robbery, not necessarily a full rivalry right now, so y'all don't think Spurs is under robbery, but you got Wimby versus Chet, and that goes back to dating before getting into the league.

That's a rivalry. Yeah. No one, there's a rivalry. Yeah, U19, France and USA. It feels on one side at this point. I think Chet's been complimentary in Wimby. Wimby has been sneakdistance throwing a little shade during an interview with Taylor Rooks before the game.

Wimby was asked about going up against Chet offered this response. The MVP is on that court. He's our main focus. Anybody is hard to guard when you have to help on the MVP. And Wimby showed some extra enthusiasm during the game when Chet was at the free throw line. Consequentantant win.

Go! It's going to be big in this game. Is that his only time doing that? Huh? Is that his only time doing that? I'm asking. I'm asking. The fuck y'all make a big deal about him cheering

because he missed a fucking free throw for? Because he threw shade at him before the game? Like, shade, no, he was telling the truth. Through shade at him, I'm sorry. No, he didn't. He didn't say, because Chet is out here. No, he said because the MVP is out there, everybody else is going to get open looks because we got to double team him.

And our previous, of course, that Wimby refused to address Chad by now. stop digging for shit. This is... No, no, no. It's a ride. It's a ride, but you... We watched them play. Yeah, they guard each other at the same position, same skill set.

It is going to be a rival. To B's point. The play arrive, it is going to be that. They both young, same skill sets, seven, five, three can shoot it, handle it, block shots. This is a rival. We already know that. You ain't got a reach. I think...

There's no reach. I get that point, but I don't think so because... It was a reach. Because Tet played with the MVP. And the way, and where Wimby's going in his career, I don't think Chet is ever going to be able to get those awards or ever be able to compete to be able to say, yo, this is a rivalry.

You're not the awards, but we guard each other. But it's like, we guard each other. But it's like, to me, it's like, all right, when you say player rivalries, right, I'm thinking, when I say magic and bird, right, Michael Jordan versus everybody in the 90s, you know, what you got? Kobe T. Mack. Kobe T. Mack.

You know, sent. They do the same, they got the same skillset. What was it, uh, LeBron and Steph? They got the, no, that was not, no rivalry. I think that is the rivalry. That's a rivalry. That's a rivalry. It was LeBron versus Mello and LeBron versus Katie, Katie versus Mello.

See, I don't even think that was a real rivalry. It was LeBron versus Golden State Warriors. No, I didn't. There's never been a rivalry. The Mellow and Braun thing, I think that lasted, I think that lasted maybe two years, like maybe two or three years. And then after that, it was a rap. Yeah, it was theft. Watch them like those games when you're thinking about team success.

No, no, no. What I'm telling you is, go watch them to play against each other. They guard, it's them. They both. Go watch them, listen, I was six and a half years in Denver, a year and a half in New York. Mm-hmm. And one was getting MVP's and other one was going to be. But we're talking about the individual.

I think that's more like, who's better. That doesn't stop. I think that's not because it was more about better. See, now you want to bring trovers and shit into it. We're talking about the individual. I think that was like, No, no, but that's what I'm going to be a robbery if I'm getting MVP and all this and you can't compare somebody to me that's not even on my level.

They came in together. That's cool. The Bron had his rookie out of your trophy at home. Uh-huh. MVP? The man has his rookie out of your trophy at home. Mello thought he deserved it. Okay.

No. Stop that shit, Josiah. His rookie. The Mellow didn't think that. If I'm getting sports world. You have a better team. Like, if I'm school. You have a better team.

No. No. No. No, Ron never had a better team than Melo. No, he did. No, he did not. No, we're not doing that. Mello made, didn't make, didn't Mello make the playoffs his rookie year?

Yeah. When he won. Okay. That Denver team was way better than the team. When he won. Hold on, look, hold on. Whoa, whoa, whoa. That's one of the most overrated.

Because you motherfuckers do know that I played there, right? That's fine. And I do understand. And I do know Libby's was better than Cleveland. MVP's and shit like that. Once I win the MVP's and shit like that. Okay, we're talking about the end. There's no more robbery.

Go watch the game. You got to get, you got to get an MVP. There's no more robbery. Now you bring your trovers into it. Yeah. If I get an MVP and they want to talk about this is a robbery, this ain't over. We're talking about the rivalry.

Go look at the numbers. I'll say no one. We go get the numbers. When they play one, when they play when every team, Brown was on, Melo was on, go look at the numbers. Go look at the wins. Go look at the dominance. Go look at the end up.

Five years to the finals. Sounds good. Sound good. Sound good. Sound good. That's team says. You all used teams. Team success.

When 18, I'm the MVP of the fucking NBA. How is that team success? I'm the best thing in the league. What are we talking about? Let me ask you something. Let me ask you something. My team sucked in Cleveland and we got to the finals. Hold on.

And got swelled. Hold on me. Hold on me. You play against each other. If me and you play against each other, we're guarding each other, you average 30 and I average 30, no matter if my team is good or bad, this is our scores. If your team is number one and I, I'm last, and we're both playing against each other,

and I'm both, and I'm scoring 30. Every time I play you, you go win a championship. We still have a rivalry. No, because no matter how good my team is, when we play you and my shit, I come to play. You come to play in a regular season, but you've never come to play when it counts the most, and that's in the finals.

When you're not there, so it doesn't matter, you're not there. So this is not a rivalry, though. This is not a rivalry. You ain't there. You ain't there. How is this going to get rivalry and see? Team rivalries are you're using team rivalries in the same category as a player rivalry. A player rivalry.

So Mello team wasn't better than LeBron when he first came into the league. Yes. Okay. With his working. Yes. Did they make the playoffs? Yes. Okay.

So what happened? Who were they going to be as A.C.? I saw LeBron James take a sorry-ass Cleveland. Who was going to be in A-C? Yes. So I'm asking this. Whoa, whoa, whoa. So what happened?

So let me ask you, what year are you speaking? What year was that? Was that? 304. What year was that? 07? Right? So historically, right, you say a weak-ass, what team, Cleveland team, right?

In a weak-ass eastern conference, correct? Or yes? Yes or no? Yes. And all the dogs are in the West. Yes or no. Okay. So if this man, rookie year, if he's an eight-seat, the year that you speak of,

were they supposed to win that year? No, but they got to the playoffs. I didn't say they were They got to the playoffs. They got to the playoffs. They got to the playoffs. There were eight. The LeBron James get to the playoffs.

No. No. So what happened? In a week. So what happened? So why did he this? I mean, the East is week. Everybody played in the East.

Everybody played in East. The East is week. His team was trashed. Everybody was fighting against him. Didn't want to play all this. But then again, what? Three years later after that, what? MVP.

And then I'm going to the football. success, right? I'm the guy. This is my team. Yes, all that. Thank you. Yeah, I mean, yeah. Go watch the game.

I did. I did. No, go watch the games. Which games? I did watch the games. All of them. I watched the games. Each time I saw.

I saw the bronze. Yes. It was a rival. They came in, boom, boom, boom. But after he got to, after he got MEP, it's a rap. So once he got NEP, it was a rap. So you watched it. So you watched it.

It was a rap. It was a rap. Every time they played against you, you watched those games? You watched those games? When he got MVP, when LeBron James got MVP, it was a rap. I heard that already. I know, so it doesn't matter. So you just, I'm asking you a different question.

What? You just stated that, so you watched every game that Mello played against LeBron. You watched every game, every single one of them. Damn there, damn. No, that ain't what I asked. Damn there. I mean, damn there. So that wasn't a rivalry.

Huh? When they played against each other, that wasn't a rivalry? Yeah, in the first couple years. In the first couple years, yes. When Lebron was, when I get MVP, I don't see no robbery. When LeBron was in Miami, in Miami, in London. Mello came to town. Look at the numbers.

When Mello came to town. That's good basketball. That ain't the right. Pull them up. Pull them up. All I know is at the end of the year, who was doing this? That's like if Kobe comes to down on the number. Y'all were using team success.

And he had to go join some motherfuckers. So what are you saying? If he were to stay his ass in Cleveland, wouldn't he had done all that shit. We're talking truth, right? We're talking truth, right? If he were to stay his ass in Cleveland, he wouldn't have the motherfuckers. He went out and joined another nigger's team. The facts is, we're talking facts here.

The facts is what happened. The facts is what happened. The facts is what happened. Let me see what happened. Enjointed another nigga's team. NEPV. Let me join the finals. Let me, final.

Let me join another, niggins. Hey, since this is before your time, since this before your time, enjoy another nigger's team. Let me show you the difference. You want to join another nigger's team. Between mindsets, between team success? Stop it. And player success.

Mm-hmm. There was a guy by the name of Kobe who had three rings. There was a dude in Orlando who was beating him in scoring. Do you think Kobe used his three rings to say this is not a competition? He said, fuck this team shit. This is between me and him. I supposed to beat him because my team is better, but that's my rival right there. That's who I'm trying to beat.

He's beat me in a scoring title. I want this scoring title. were entitled because I don't want him to have it. That was my rivalry. Shaq, do not double. This is between me and him. Leave me on the island just like he's going to be left on the island. Don't help.

This is 101. Would you hear Shaq say? Hey, all right, Mr. Badass. Guard the motherfucker by yourself. Nobody help him. He said he can stop him. Do it. Their arrival.

That is the ice. The rings don't matter at that point. Kobe had three. You don't use team success when it's just me and you. me and you. What? So that's, that's what that's what that is. And in this situation.

So if I'm 0 and 20 and you're 20 and oh and we come to town, I'm expecting you to stop me. Because me and you guarding each other. So if I give your ass 45. Right, during the regular season. Don't use your team wreck. No, no, no. Don't use your team record. We got the win.

Listen, you did all that. We got to win. Because listen, at the end of the day, where are you at when it's time to go get that ring, though? Where are you, though? You're not in the building. I don't give a book. I don't care what you are. I just paid you.

Not joining another nigga's team is where I'm at. And then also that point that you made about Kobe. Not going to Miami, niggas where I'm at. Listen, I mean, listen, that point that I made about Kobe, I'm sorry. I'm not taking my talent to stop. I was always number one. I ain't had to deal with that. Melo didn't take his talent to the best to go join another nigger that was, he didn't do that.

He didn't do that. No, that was later. At his peak, we're talking, no, then, no, that was later, right? When he was, when he was, so he didn't jump ship. jumped ship when he wasn't he wasn't still mellow he wasn't still mellow when he got to new york he didn't jump ship when he didn't jump ship me go let me see who in the west who in the west can i go join hey listen hold on hold on what did we let me go join let me go join let mellow go join Kobe did he have the leverage did he have the leverage level of mellow just leave yeah so they didn't do it you you can't be

Because I hate that. What I'm saying is. You just mellowed him. Just mellowed him. But you brought it up, though. Did he have the leverage? But you bought up to him. He didn't have that thing.

He took his ass to his ass the motherfucking South Beach. Let me ask you a question. I've already had. You take mellow by himself. You take mellow by himself in, what were you one? 07? Okay. Put him with the Spurs.

Championship. I mean, they did win the championship. They put him with the Spurs. Championship. Okay, put him with Detroit. No, no, he's on the West. Put him with the Spurt. Put him on the West.

Put him with Dallas Championship. Put him with Kobe. No matter if that one single person went anywhere in the West, they won 17 games before he got there, him by himself in the West. Okay, put him with Portland. Got 43 wins. Put him with Portland.

They win. In the West. Put him with Portland. Do they win it? Forty three wins. Are you not listening? But your name, your name it. Did the Wayne not have a champion?

already when LeBron James got the motherfucking Miami. Did he have a championship? It's a yes or no question. He had one? It's a yes and so therefore the other dude had more team success to you so you go join another dude

because you took your ass to the finals and got swept. I got sweat. I did all I did all you could but you couldn't get it done so then you go join them. So this guy didn't do that. Okay, I mean that's his fault.

He had the team though. That's his fault. I'm doing it. Mello had the team. We had a team in Bruny. We didn't have a team in. When y'all was over here, When you John C.

Billups, all y'all was over there. You guys, they are fucking, Whoby Gives against fucking A.I. Mello, K-Marty. Johnson Billips. That's not, bro. So what happened? What happened?

What happened? You know, what happened in the other? Listen. You know, Mello's different team. If that different team was in the East, they're number one. Listen, these niggas are amazing.

What are you talking about? Y'all went to the Western Conference Finals against the Lakers. Y'all went to the Western Conference beginning of the Lakers. What happened? What happened? Y'all had a team. If I'm telling you we weren't good enough to win a fucking championship, I was fucking there. I played on the team.

We had a handicapped as a fucking coach for one. Listen, no, these are facts, Brandon. These are fucking, you know why we lost to the fucking Lakers in the West Conference Final? But we didn't have fucking our side out of bounds plays. We're going to look at it. So you're talking about teams and says and shit. Everything was lined. So, no, we got, we played San Antonio in the playoffs,

we played the Lakers in the game in the playoffs. They got swept against, good San Antonio, really good teams in the West. You put us in, we play, you put us in the Eastern Conference. We run through the mother. Nick, we won 50 games and was an 8th seed. In the West.

Yo, y'all beat in Boston? Y'all beat in Boston in 08? Listen, dog. LeBron didn't know what I'm telling. Wait, why you look at me like that? You're like they didn't win the championship in here. Brandon, listen at this. Brandon, listen at me.

I'm asking, are y'all beating Boston? Yes. If y'all go to East. We fucking them around. Okay. Brandon, listen, we won 50 games, nigger, was an eighth seed. We went 50 games in the East, nigga.

What are we? What are we in the East? Like, what was Boston in East? Over 50 games. Okay, but y'all beat Boston though? Y'all didn't even think y'all getting out of the East beat Boston. Doing that time, they beat the Lakers. Y'all talking about two West niggas going east.

But I'm just saying, but, but, but, you said to put us in. What I'm saying is, you're talking about two West players. I'm talking about West fans going to team up with an East guy with the championship. It's not like it was an East team. It was two niggas getting dog walked into West. Kevin Gardner, West team, he couldn't do it. Let me go east Ray Allen

I don't even know what my team is doing in the east but I mean in the West let me go east We're champions You take Melos Denver team Put them in the West Champions

In the East No What are you talking about? No you won't They're not winning You got your rabid ass mind though Just because Boston beat the Lakers

Y'all didn't beat the Lakers So you can't You can't compete Boston beat the Lakers Did they not The route we had Where did your fucking players come from in Boston? Two-star players from the West.

Teethers are you not even realizing what you're all. You're a superstar. You have the leverage to do the same thing. It's your choice to stay and get your ass with 99. You're not even realizing what you're saying. They ain't go tuck tail and go join another nigga's team. Let me, let's try to. Y'all don't win.

You can't get mad at him up with that. No, no. In the West, can somebody tell me the great guard net? Mm-hmm. Did he ever get out the first? First round in the West. No. No.

Did you see his team? MVP. He was an MVP. He got a help. I said he got a once. He was a MVP. He was a MVP. So he has an MVP.

He is the best player in the league. He's the West was that hard. He goes to the east. You got, you got Seattle. We don't even know what that sorry-ass team looked like. That star went to the east, teamed up with this nigga from the West. They teamed up with the best. teamed up with the best player on the Boston

to have the big three, that team and win championship. That's who won the championship in the East. You take, you take Mello. Okay. You add them with the White championship. You take Mellow. You add them with Joe Johnson in when that Hawks team. The Hall. And they do what? We don't know.

And they do what? We don't know. Man, what you're talking about? Go smash out. Are you all serious? Are you serious? The Hawks team who led the East, the East? The East. We used to stop. All right, man. All right.

That team that led the East? All right, bro. You see what Kawhi did in the East? This, the nigger won the championship like that. He did it in the West. He won a championship on a bad leg. And he did it in the West. No, he had good legs in the West.

But he did it in the way? He was walking. Like you right now, right? The whole, yeah. And that's killed is walking normally. That's that Kauai. Kauai won his championship that I'm out. This is the pink.

I don't even know if I don't even, I don't even Toronto made the playoffs. Listen, it's the P? Yes, they have. Let's keep this thing moving. But to get back to the point, the reason the weird, the reason Winby and Chuck won't be, it's not a rivalry right now. It's because one is a number one option. Yeah. And that number one option is saying we're not, we're not comparable because he's a third option.

Okay. Facts. They have an MVP over there. If I win MVP, it's me. Yeah. He gets free basketball. Those 17 points, he got nobody's guarded him. That's what he was saying.

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I feel that way. So argue with a nigga that was on the team? On the team. Like, That's impressive, that's an impressive skill set. I want y'all to know that, right? To really, like, when I'm, like... That's Kewa- That's Kwan. That's not Rishar shit. Hey, they're like, yo.

Hit up drunk that resides. You sit in that seat. That seat. That's what I'm about getting to lose, you know? I'm waiting for the prize. I'm not going to sit here. Go ahead, I got. Bring out the cookie sheets in the dryers.

I'm over here watching, niggas. Just like, you all. All right. I'm coming this back. By the way, man, I am not a mellow hater. We were just having a discussion. I love mellow, dog. I think mellows were right.

On the subject of robberies and beef, Lakers and Sons were back in action Sunday after both teams were eliminated in the NBA Cup quarterfinals. Can you appreciate this? I remember when you look like... We need your expertise for this one. He used to look like this too. A year ago, people was like this.

He was just like this on everybody. like this on every podcast is eating the motherfucker oh give an arena leg are the sons made in phoenix uh sunday phoenix still without jalen green who hasn't played since november 8 by dealing with the hampset strain l.A was without austin reeds you know the funniest part like while we still jrugger he's still trying to do my job yeah this is they need a paint this we're trying to fire man oh yeah i love big employer i love my job i love underdog I love this couch.

Paint this shit life. God is gracious. Put a hat on this guy. My God is a awesome God. Oh, shit. He's swaggy. I know. Now we got it.

But I know. I haven't been to take a shot. I said you lately, so I have to. I will be at the blue face fight in the blue face section. Throwing up Chris. Hey, Nick, you can't get beat up, Brin come back here.

I just want you to know. You cannot go back up here. Listen, dog, you get beat up. Get him, Kyle. Hey. I'm going to be front row heckling the shit out you just so you know. You hear all that shit in the ring.

He can't quit. What are you talking about? He can't quit. If it's a peep today, what's up? He can't quit. The Gil's Arena battle, like, can't quit. You got to show you not, like, you can't quit. That's the only thing.

You got to go every round. If you go every round, you won. That's a win for us. Just make it through. Just don't die your shit blonde again. Let's just talk about the inch for inch. You lost when you did that. I was like this.

Oh, Gil. Yeah, yeah, you was chunky and shit. Yeah, it was chunky. Chunky with blonde hair, that was a bad. If he had that, though, he was, ah, I was going through, yeah, that was so tired. Got tired. Sounds like her. Yeah, I was retired.

Just hit. What those ropes did that shit right there? I said, damn, we got three more rounds. Ladies and gentlemen, you know, it is a struggle to host sometimes. If you were someone, you know, we're interested in this position. Please reach out to this shit. So you can deal with all these shenanigans. But LA was without Austin Reeves, sideline for at least a week with a mild calf strain.

Purple Gold, we're looking for revenge after revenge after to the son, smacked him at home a few weeks ago. Lakers still? Dylan Brooks had 33 points in that game. Continue to poke the bear. That is LeBron James. After that game, Brooks was talking big shit, saying he doesn't bow down to Bronn and knows how to aggravate him.

The bear poking got turned up to another level in this one, but LeBron and the Lakers got the last laugh. We pick up the action in the second half of this particular basketball game. Lucas snapped the streak of nine straight 30-point games. He did finish with a game high 29 on 7 to 25 shooting along. with six assists and six turnovers. LeBron added 26 points going 8 for 17 from the field, nine for 14 from the line,

but also had a game high eight turnovers, including five in the first quarter. Nyadry Aden, 20 and 13 boards, and Jackson Hayes did that. What was that? Yondra Aden was 10 of 11 from the field. DeAndre Aiden and Vando, very, very important in this particular game.

So Legers went on a 24-0 run to end the third quarter, start the fourth quarter, led by as much as 20 with Under Aid Mintermanian. Then that play from Marcus Martin happened. Everybody was watching the game, you knew when that play happened, some shit was about to go down. Nah, bro.

The Sons made things interesting, battling all the way back with a 35-14 run of their own as a purple and gold look poised to trick this one off, which they nearly did. Sixth Sun's players scored in double figures led by Devin Booker at 27 and 7. Oh man. Yes. Mark is Smart. 20. Dillon Brooks, 18.

So, yes, Marcus Smart tried to go, got a shot blocked. Booker missed it, got his rebound, hit Dylan Brooks. Brooks was whistle for a tech after that, which we'll have more on in a second. LeBron took the tech, missed the free throw, then got fouled on that three-point attempt, knocked down two of those three free throws, then came up with the game-saving defense of play. Lakers went on to get the two-point win. Wow. It was a win.

Lakers approved the 9-0 in clutch games, 7-0 following a loss of the season. Obviously, the story of this game, though, was the beef between Dylan Brooks and LeBron, who were going at each other all night long. We have all that video here for you guys to see. It started very early. LeBron, like... That's like his little brother. Flop.

He's talking about flop. Various interests of pushing, shoving, trash talk. Head touching, the crown of the head, as you know. Most of them do not like to be touched on the corner. Hit that ball spot. Hitting the ball spot. The minor skirmishes. Yeah.

They didn't call back. Did my ball head give away? This player right here with Dylan Brooks, slapping the ball off with Brown. off with Brown. The two got into it. Ron appeared to make contact with the ref, was merely telling him to do something. Get out with that shit, right? The watch care.

Yeah, yeah. It was going to go. I'm going to play. Come on. Let me show you something. The Wians versus the unks. Bring your ass over here. I'll show you a thing.

Come here, motherfucker. Come here. Come here. Come here. Here you go. See it right there. It was a lot. It was a lot.

Any basketball game, though. Kind of like, you're in practice, bro. On everything. Then, obviously, Brooks hit that three. Like the Wolverine, bro. Put the son's up when he got into the bronze grill, ended up getting a tech for an unsportsman-like contact on that particular place, setting up the technical file. Why he keep trying to act? This shit funny, though.

Only time we're talking about it. So if somebody grabbed him, he... Let me get over it. Let me get over it. Let me out. Like Scrappy doo. Right? Like the old cartoon, scooooooooo scrap dude.

He holding him back. Let me at him. Let me out of him. So after the game. Brian had this to say about his ongoing beef with Brooks and Brooks's tech to help the lake to get the win. I just like to compete. He's going to compete.

I'm going to compete. I'm going to get up in each other's face. Trying not to go borderline with it. I don't really take it there. But we just compete, you know, and do that almost all the way to the end of the game. 12.2 seconds left after he had to go at three, he goes chest to chest with you. How aware were you in that moment? the fact that you already had a tent to go foul in order to perhaps make sure the

refs saw what just... Well, it didn't matter if you had one already or not. That's definitely a tech. If it was a tech on me in the first half, then it was a tech, you know, right there. Shout out Dave McMananman for capturing that video in the locker room. For what is worth, Dylan Brooks wasn't in the Sun's locker room for media availability after the game. That's the shit.

So is the Dylan Brooks versus LeBron Beef good for the league or going too far? It's enjoyable. You know, okay, I like Dylan Brooks this year because he don't need, it seemed like before we only knew him for antics, right? It was the antics and it was, that's it, right? He didn't really put many points, but the fact that he is playing like a number two, sometimes number one, better than the number three option. Like, he's really actually playing basketball this year. And he can, and he's bringing the same head games. And it's not actually distracting him.

Most people who play like this, they're distracted on the other end, right? Obviously, he got himself kicked out. I don't know personally if I'm the referee, if I'm going to kick him out of the game. Because this is what they've been doing the whole game. They've been doing all of this. And my job is to make sure it don't lead to a fight, which if they've been doing it all game, that's not what this is, right? This is, you score, you, ah, me, I score, I'm how are you? So I'm not going to intervene in, you know, I wouldn't have kicked Dylan Brooks out for this game,

but I personally like it because I think that what Dylan brings to the table is a lot more than he did before when he got famous for it. So it's like now He is a better offensive player And now he's making you watch it Average in a career high, career high field goal percentage as well We've talked about this before with the Dylan Brooks LeBron situation I remember back up when the Lakers eliminated the gritties for the playoffs Leaving the game not talking to the media

Obviously helped cost his team the game I'm like I say was the sole reason that they lost this game I can't I can't but also put them ahead I can't blame him personally for That technical because if you get called for it, yes, all right, you got called for it, but y'all was, like this is like when two big men are battling the post, they look at you and say, yo, let us play, right?

So between them two, let us play, don't, stop refereeing us. We got this. We have something to prove we decided together we're going to just sit here and thug it out. That means referees stay out of the business. they establish from the beginning what this game is going to be like as a ref stay out of their business just don't make sure you don't lead to no punches

but obviously it wouldn't have led to no punches because one, Braun is not going to punch him and Dylan is not going to punch Braun like Dylan is not that guy he's not going to sit here and punch or sucker punch nobody he's just messing with you yeah he's

so he's trolling on the floor he's poking he's trolling to do man he's good he's good at what but he does, and I actually like it. He ain't going to do nothing. Yeah, I like it. I mean, he's a valuable piece. He's perfected that, that being a nuisance, being a pest, he's perfected that.

Now he's getting an opportunity not to have to be number three on the team. When he was in Memphis, he was the third, third, fourth option behind Bain, Jaron Jackson, and Jai, go to Houston last year. He's third option. Now he's getting an opportunity to play basketball freely. And putting the time in the lab, he's getting to display it. Yeah, so he's, he's, yeah, no, he's making a, he's making a name for himself, other than the antics.

So you got to respect it. Like I said, I ain't with the antics and shit, but it works for him, right? It works for him. It gets other people involved that maybe off your game at times. Yeah. But you're doing it to a guy in LeBron who is not going to get flustered easy. I don't think he's been. But seen Brian get flustered in that game.

That's a show. Live in Hollywood. It's a show. Like, he waits to somebody get right in between and act like you're trying to go get it. Like, that's, like, if don't nobody know the reference that I use because a bunch of young people that are watching the show, the old Scooby-Doo cartoon, they had a little puppy named Scrappy. Scrappy used to wait until somebody had their hand on his forehead,

let me at him, let me at him. I got him, let me at him. Like, that's all that shit is, man. So, I don't have to scrap it. You think Dylan Brooks's environment is different from coming from He ain't shit, but a new age, Ruben Patterson. I'm proud of this fucking Kobe Stopper shit. Now this one's more.

I think he has more of a voice. This damn Kobe Stopper, Ruben Patterson, 2.0. Lance Stevenson shit. You ain't go disrespect myself. Man, that's shit got to say. What I'm talking about? Man. But nobody stopped, Kobe.

We knew that shit. Yeah, come and he wants to... He has more of a voice now. But you got to see, when you knew the antics, you got to stay. If they were the one, he would have stayed in the locker. Well, after he dropped 33 and they beat the Lakers and Staples and stayed, gave a great interview. You got to be all the way with it. You got to stay, talk some other shit, it's all right?

But I think it's what we say previously about Dylan Brooks. If you're going to stand on business, you got to stand on it. You can't be... No, you get kicked out of the game. You don't want to have anything to say. Yeah, that's what I don't. We'd be doing, like, to Gil's point, we'd be doing this all game. Yeah.

And for you to kick me out and the other guy don't get kicked out, it's like, I don't, so. Yeah, I don't like, you understand that message. Like, him standing after, like, I wouldn't even expect, I wouldn't even expect, like, because he got kicked off, the frustration is different. The mentality is different. Because it's not like he left because he had two points or three points. Okay. He, he bawled. You still got to talk to the people.

He balled out. No, by the time that game was over, he left. If they were the one, he would have been there. Oh, no, no. If he would have won, but that's a thing. He would have been all in the hallway. He would have been all in the hallway. Y'all ready for me?

Y'all ready for me? Yeah, I got a show for y'all. No, no, but yeah, but I don't, I can't, I'm not going to penalize it. But I'm not going to penalize him from not being there because he did get kicked out and removed from the game. It's right his first time doing this. But I'm saying, it's not like he had a bad game and he's not showing up because of his bad performance. Okay.

He had a great performance. The ref removed him. from the game. But you, he got kicked out, he did get foul. When I got kicked out, I'm up. That was a foul name. The new rule, very well-fishated game. Joe, with the new rules?

That was a foul. Can you have, I never want to undermine the NBA? With the new rules, though. No, that's not a fair. It looked like, which one? When he hit him, when he shot the through, that's the, with the new rules, that's supposed to be filed. With the new rules, okay.

But Brooks caused himself an opportunity to do some elite trolling, right? You go up, odds are the way the Lakers are playing, they were to trick that game off. It all came back from that past. They came back. I'm not going to say he's the reason he lost game. Obviously, Brian got filed by Devin Booker shooting a three. It was a foul.

You thought it was a foul? Yeah, but I'm going to cause the shit. He didn't get ready to shoot. A foul. So, sure. Absolutely was a foul. Should have been an hour. But you do all that.

Yeah. Talking Cassie's last game, come back this game. Let him play very well. Go ahead three. Test it in. In Lebron's grill. And then you tricked that all off. He should have touched him, though.

He didn't trick it. He didn't trick it off. Yeah, it's just, all you have to do is run through the bed. You're so excited. Yeah. He wanted to talk so much shit at that day. You got to be smarter. I can't judge this as a normal game because, just like Lyle's game, busting his ass.

This game, busting his ass while fighting all game. I just hit it in your face. You right there, lock up. Like, that's the, it's the, it's the, it's the, that's the, that's what I said. It's the animation in real time. I can't penalize him for that. Because LeBron didn't even react at first to the referee in the way, right? It's like, Bronny did have 26 in the game.

I know, but what I'm saying is it's not that I, it's, that one is a separate entity because both was playing well, both was going back and forth, right? Y'all went up, me just hit the shot to go up and I'm yelling, got a little too close. Come your ass down. Right? And the ref caught me. That's it. You're too happy. Yeah, yeah, I'm too happy.

He's excited. I'm too, think about it, I'm too happy. Yeah, if he wouldn't, you're, you're kidding me out for being too happy. Yeah, you're jumping at somebody else, though. You're talking shit. That's what, 24. That's what makes the game enjoyable, though. But all of you.

All of it is. Yeah, but don't touch me. But don't touch me. I didn't mean to touch you. You did everybody celebrate. Yeah, you're a big man. Yeah, you're a lot of fucking. Gangster.

You're fucking LeBron James. I should be able to touch you. Hey, that'd be gang. Gangs, they did everybody's celebration at once. You can do that. You can do that's our take, motherfuck. They're going to throw it out this. Just arrow ass shit.

Rock the baby, do the rush shit. Then rocking. Boom. You get to get off. Rock him to the sleep. Rock him to this. So we asked the chat as the LeBron Merge Dillon Brooksbee, going too far.

76% of the chat said, hell no, we won more. Yeah, we want more. Do that pass top my turnaround three? That pass, he does. It made my Sunday night enjoyable. It makes you look forward to this. Come on, man. That pass right there tossed this shit.

No, that don't. That pass on a fast break by yourself and you took you to throw it like that? No. They made a comeback off of it. Nick, that's up though with Javelle trying to jump over the free throw line. Yours. Your, yeah. Hell no.

Wait, that's the Michael Ruffin joint. Nick, what was yours? That's the Michael Ruffin got to just that shit. You up there with Michael Ruffin. Throwing the ball in there, that's David to him. Michael Ruff and throwing a dead ball in there. But y'all won, right? We won, we won.

And I just hit three. See, but he did that, and that was up 20, and they came. It just, it was a catalyst for a series of events. That past was like, why? First of all, it's one, I guess. You can't explain that. No, no. I know he was thinking.

So there's no justifying. I know they're thinking, why? He thought the defense actually gave a fuck about him, right? Like, I'm not going to go past you, try to block your shot. So you just passed it right to me. It's Vando. What are you going to do? He's about the windmill.

This ain't Jeff Green. Like, like, think about it. If this was LeBron James or somebody, he's throwing it off the backboard and throwing it up. He literally was just saying, I'm going to give up my layer for your layer. Tap. And he got blocked after he tried to make up for it and it got blocked. No, that was worse. He jumped on the free throw line with a layer.

That shit out of here. They didn't even. Black, they didn't even jump. No, that didn't have lost the game. If they had lost that game, oh, my God. Watching that play in real time was like, oh, that's it done. Yeah, it's over. What's going on?

As a coachman. What is going on right now? You ever play against a little kid who's going in for the layup, or you just sitting there like, that was him? Like, he coming in, grind it all up. Like, you can't, you can't, you're just. After that past. You know you don't want to stop.

Stop picking on them. He got to learn. But as a coach, do you take him out right after that path? Hell yeah. I take him off after the Laleo. What was you thinking?

Like he's going in there with the big boys. Wide open Lep and the fact that the defender wasn't even going to block it. Come on, man. Please show it one more time. The layoff, which one?

Both motherfuckers. Just look at the slay. The whole four of course. The lay up like when you're playing against little kids, man, and they're coming in and they're thinking about the score. And you're just sitting there just

push the wrong button. You push the wrong button. I'm too scared, niggins. You can say that. Shit, I meant to press X. My bad. Hell, yeah. That's how you being mad.

For real, man. That is. That's up there with Javille, free throw. And throwing it at the backboard. Think about that. So we asked the chat. Interesting question, Swaggy, involving yourself. What's worse?

Markets' Pass or Swaggy's early celebration? Hold on. Let me put my vote in 54% said your early celebration I was one of that 54% You You had jokes for it No I'm just kidding

But I mean look If you had made the passage Did you wait Then we got a problem Just right down the whole Take the picture If you did one of those Yeah

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But while we do, let's get to our last topic. Magic and Knicks met for the fourth time this season. This won for a chance to advance in the NBA Cup title game. It's the fourth time. Magic had won two of the previous three meetings with the Knicks taking the last one at home on December 7th in a game that included a questionable moment with Desmond Bank, firing a ball off of O.G.

Ananovi's back. We did talk about that here at Gillsman and presented by 100-W-W-W-W. So New York, even the series behind another dominant performance from their captain. Let's take a look at the highlights. If we can, please. So Jalen Brunson. put the Knicks on his back, dropping a season high 40 points along with eight assists,

four rebounds in his 39 minutes of action. Brunson's 88th game scoring 30 or more with the Knicks moving them to third all-time and franchise history behind Mello and Patrick Newell. Big Bodega added 29 and eight boards and OG Adenobi had 24 points on 8 of 13 shooting. On the magic side of things, Jaylon Suggs, scored 25 of a 26 points in the first half for the magic before leaving in the fourth quarter with a sore left hit. Palo Bancarro, also known as Paolo P. Carroll, here in Gills Arena, presented by Underdog Woo-Boop. Added 25 points.

Oh, my God. Desmond Bain had 18 but went scoreless in the fourth quarter. Look at Jaila Brunson, inch for inch. I didn't know they had a white person on the Knicks. What? Where do you come from, bud? Pound for pound, inch for inch for inch, however you want to slice it. It was a tight game for most of this one with 11 lead changes, 10 ties,

but then the Knicks went on a 10-2 run to close out the third quarter. We're in control the rest of the way. Shout out to. The big bodega right there. Thought it was it too. That boy, nice right there. Ooh. Look at it.

Jaylor Brunshin out here doing it. Man, ISO. Uh-uh. Shit, ISO, ISO. Man down. All the Amblin, but Knicks have won. Damn. Five straight games.

Nine of their last 10. Now have a chance to take home. NBA Cup Idol. Man, he's so, man. The New York Knicks. We have Gerald McCoy here in the arena. Cat's up, man. Sharing a moment with swaggy.

No cat impersonation today, so we got some feedback. They're not feeling it. No, I'm just kidding. After the game, Josh Hart has some high praise for the biggest little man on the Knicks roster. Josh, I want to ask you this because I think you would answer, honestly. When you factor in his height and

not the most athletic, Jesus. You've said it. You've said it. You've said it. You didn't have to say it, though. How many guys in the NBA do you think score the basketball better than he does? Probably not many.

You know, he's barely six-foot guard. This is your fault. Not physically impressive, not athletic. but he's able to manipulate, you know, defense. Obviously, big head, so he has a big brain. He's able to, you know, figure out those angles and find himself in positions to be successful. So, you know, inch for inch, I think he's probably the best one.

Inch for the inch, he's probably the best one. Inns for the inch. Last question in the back here. They said he was trolling. Yes. Inch for inch. Brunton averaging close to 29 points per game this season. Good for seventh in the league.

Finished in the top eight in the scoring each of the last two seasons. Some other guys in the Miss Tyrese, Maxie, Donovan Mitchell, both listed in six-two as well. We know Brunson not six-two. No, he's six-two. You think he's six-two here? With his shoes on. What I'm saying? With his shoes on.

I think he was six-foot. He was six-foot, six-two with his shoes on. maxi is six two without his shoes six four with his shoes okay so just depending on if you're going the shoes on shoes off play basketball in shoes yeah so basically six two versus six four and you play football and cleats yeah yeah okay okay yeah but it all depends on how we're going but I'm depending on how how it's registered like so which one are we go shoes or no shoes what's to be the official it doesn't what I'm saying is one is still two two inches different one

They don't measure our shoes or no... When you go to the combine... He's trying to set you up. And you play football, he's quick. But when you put the cleats on... And you play football on. The double one. Okay, so you said 6-2.

Brunton is 6'5. With no shoes. Fixing with shoes. Maxi is 6-4. So don't say Maxi's 6-2 because that's his shoes. But that's what he's listed at. So I'll get that up with the national basketball. You play football with cleaks.

So if you're going to use his shoes, then use everybody's shoes. Now I ask your question. So you agree with Josh Hart saying that inch for Inch Brunson is the best offensive player in the league. And Josh Hart. Offensive player? Int, inch for inch, average in 28 at 6-2. Man, six feet.

Oh, damn. Yeah? 5-11 probably. Yeah? I mean. Well, his height, yeah. Huh? What, he's like a...

Issao Thomas? Issao Thomas not in the league. He's like. He's like. He's like. No. I say, like... Like, yeah, the scoring IT, yeah.

It's rich. It'll be him or Donovan. When did Donovan Mitchell come in? What year? Donovan Mitchell? Yeah, when did Donovan Mitchell come in? Oh, Mitchell like six. Donald Mitchell also listed at six, too.

That's what I said. Like 2017, I believe he can look. See, I can look. That's without a shoe, though. That's what I said I can look. Yeah, you entered the league 2017. Draft I mean

It'd be it'd be But I think Spider more athletically gifted than Brunson we would say Yeah athletic yeah That's hard had that drug bill I respect to five more athletically gifted than Brunson We're not in the same category They had that black leather on boy

In New York the streets of New York With the black leather He had some Tim's on For show a drug dealer outfit Ladies and gentlemen, this is. No, I'm giving it to the Bronx. I think he could create in multiple ways for his height. He posts up guards as bigger than him, strong, low to the ground, you know, gravity.

And he's scoring multiple ways. He ain't got the athletics in him like the, but he'd know how to do trick shots. You know how to use it like Luca for his height. So inch for inch? Inch for inch, I think so. Right now, he could, you got the little, put the little inch in the league. He's number one. He know how to use his inch.

He said he was in the 2017 draft? A nominal middle. They don't have him here on the combine. Are you trying to look up his combine statistic? Well, what's your brother's side? Mr. B. Agree with Josh Hartson, that inch for inch Jalen Brunton best offense player in the league, right? Yep, got it.

I mean, I guess. I give it to a... I mean, he gives a big level score. Yeah, that's a... Mitchell's six three and a half where the shoes are. So you give it to Brunton? Brunton. So it'd be between them, too, because they're both little, but...

You can score. Like, you know, what's so funny, those three is, is technically trying to fight for pound for pound with Alan Iverson. You know, he just... When we talk about height in your scoring, you know, you talk about Iverson's probably number one in history. So it would be Allen, Donovan, for the longevity of Donovan, Donovan, Brunson, I don't know who else would be in that.

Isaiah Thomas? Yeah, a little IT. No, I'm going to Earl Borkins, nigga. You know what I mean? That's fair. Pound for pound. Earl Boykin. Oh, shit, shit, no.

He was a pound for pound. He was a strong. I'm gonna say, shit. I'm not, I'm not fighting. I mean, shit, I played with him. Like 6'4, I thought. He could score. He could score that in my phone anywhere.

No, he's 6'3. And he looked taller than, Brunson. Yeah, he's 6'3. Like, Brunson's compact. Yeah. But you're talking about all of his at you? One thing that I don't understand is why they always have someone that's under 6-6 on them.

That those heights, don't work on him. You can literally put someone six, nine, and above because he's not quick or fast, right? So you're giving him angles that, that you're, if you're stubby with him and he should, that doesn't bother him. Like, you treat him like a seven-footer at his position. He has the angles. He knows his leg. He knows he's up and up and, like even with like Earl Boykins. I couldn't guard Earl Boykins. You got to put someone at six, nine, The castle on? No.

Who you put on them? You got a guard. See, I wouldn't put nobody that's, if you're going to be six, eight, you're going to be, you're going to be, you're going to be. Who they got? Unless you got like eight. Yeah, who does first? Vassell?

I don't even know if I put the sale on them. I'm putting Harrison bars on them. What are you going to do? He's going to burn by him? No. That's born six eight. Slow though, bro. But Brunton is slow.

Yeah, Brunton is slow. You just got to be disciplined. No, he's not quick. He's not quick. quick at all. No, he don't got, it's all, it's all this, it's all this, it's all this movement. It ain't a jerk, though. No, he don't.

You know how to jerk his inch. He's six, six. All right. Well, yeah, so like, so like, so like that. Daylon Williams. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Pascal, Cia. Pascal.

Barnes, Ingram. Those are the, those are the players. I would be putting on them. But those type of guys? Yes. I'm not anybody. I'm not putting a guard on him. Because he's been at He felt.

He's performing. affected out of score against somebody's own. So you put some, you have to. You put a point guard and he'll abuse him. Put a two guard, he'll abuse him. He buzzing all ones and two. For sure. We will find out tonight in the NBA Cup championship,

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