Gil's Arena - Zion Williamson's Transformation Turns Gil's Arena HOSTILE

Episode Date: February 25, 2025

Joel Embiid Is PROVING It's Time To END The Process as Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Crew react to The Philadelphia 76ers weighing options to shut down both Joel Embiid & Paul George this season and debate if the process is cooked after the Sixers essentially threw away prime seasons from PG, Embiid and Tyrese Maxey. They then discuss positive news surrounding an often injured NBA Superstar as Zion Williamson is reportedly down 20 pounds this season to his lowest playing weight ever, sparking an interesting discussion on if the Pelicans should trust to build around Zion or shop him this offseason. Next, they break down one of the most exciting games of the season as Anthony Edwards & the Minnesota Timberwolves pulled off an insane comeback over the OKC Thunder, revealing a hole in the game of the NBA Western Conference's top team and enticing a debate over if this staggering loss and Nikola Jokic's career high 19 assists changes anything with Shai Gilgeous Alexander's standing in the NBA MVP. Finally Gil & The Crew react to Bronny James' growing confidence in the G League as the heir to LeBron James' throne has dropped 20 or more points in 4 of 6 games and proved the Los Angeles Lakers plan of development is working out nicely. Pleave us a like and subscribe!!! Gil's Arena Crew - Gilbert Arenas, Josiah Johnson, Rashad McCants & Brandon Jennings Gil's Arena Merch is Available NOW at https://gilsarenamerch.com/ Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get up to $1000 in Bonus Cash and A FREE Pick: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena Try Huel with 15% OFF PLUS A Special Gift today using code GILS at https://huel.com/gils Unlock a healthier, easier way to eat with Huel—nutritionally complete meals in minutes, so you can focus on what really matters. To get YOUR FREE Jumpstart Trial Bag, go to https://ruffgreens.com & use Promo code GIL USE Code GIL10 for 10% off tickets on SeatGeek https://seatgeek.onelink.me/RrnK/GIL10 SUBSCRIBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAvjYgmwadC682OoC4Cc6TQ Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos! https://discord.gg/underdog Stream Josiah's Film "Memes & Nightmares" Available NOW on Hulu and Disney+ 0:00:00 – 2 Min Timer 0:02:05 – Show Start 0:13:45 – Zion Williamson Is Looking Slim 0:43:21 – 76ers Considering Shutting Down Embiid 1:04:22 – Byron Scott SLAMS The NBA All Star Game 1:42:32 – Gil Calls Out LeBron Haters 1:55:14 – OKC Proved They're Not Ready 2:06:55 – Gil GLAZES Over Bronny's Hot Streak 2:26:28 – MostlyFans Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Whoa, whoa! Whoa! You know, a little pre-show fodder. Appreciate everybody pulling up. You know, we're not late. We show up when we feel like it. God bless y'all. How everybody doing?

Yeah. Got the original crew here on the couch today. We got our props back. Got the props back. Shout out to our production team for making that happen. Debbie. Got the belt back. Shout out to Deb. Bringing for making that happen. Debbie. Got the belt back. Shout out, Deb.

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Woo woo. As always, we got the legend Gilbert Arenas here with us. Gil, you came into the arena today with a little pep in your step. I just wanted to point that out. Looking, you know, glowing. Got that rope. Got that rope still in me. Got that rope.

Got that rope up in me. That's a box. It's in the spot. Rope make you go. You must be taking something different than what I'm taking. That shit do not put a pep in my step. What? Hell no.

I ain't got to take on empty stuff, man. Oh, that's what it is. That shit put me straight to sleep. I've been on that bitch waiting. She ain't here yet. Anywho. Nothing affected. 36 hours.

36 of them things. That's too much. On this side of the couch representing Tough Crowd, Tough Crowd University, we got Mr. B, Brandon Jennings. Good to have you back in the arena, Mr. B. Yes. You know, after a productive All-Star weekend, I appreciate you for everything you did for us and the crew.

Yes, sir. And making our All-Star weekend lovely. But just the plugs, the turn-ups, the different things you had going down. I didn't get to meet Steph again, but... I mean, man, he... I did. Like, he played in Golden State, right? Yeah, the plugs.

Like, you was there. That 55 must have been there. No, it was in Milwaukee. But they remembered it. They remembered it. And on this side of the couch, we got the man known as Cemetery Larry, Rashad McKess. In the building. Got the belt back.

Yes, I didn't have it yesterday. In the Wimby jersey. Loud newcomers come in and take shots. Now I got the belt on, though. Upon further review, there was no overlap. It's all good. In your basketball careers, but that's not good. Shout out to the internet for always staying on their toes,

having the research ready to go. But for all the fans out there, we still got two viewing options for you. Our traditional version, mobile vertical version. Pick whichever one you want to watch. Just make sure you support our show. Here's what's cracking in the arena today. Former MVP Joel Embiid's knee issue hasn't improved this season, and him and the Sixers are exploring alternative treatment options, including surgery.

Alternative, excuse me. Treatment options, including surgery. Is the process officially cooked? The Wolves came through with one of the biggest comebacks in league history to defeat the top seeded Thunder. But is Minnesota still a legit threat this season? They are currently seventh in the West. Can they get back to the Western Conference Finals again? I don't know cuz the Lakers are gonna be in their way.

And Zion Williamson is reportedly looking slim and trim. Should the Pelicans still trust him to be their face of the franchise? Man down in the 260s. Looking good. Still rocking Eddie Winslow fits. But before we get into all that, if you want to get your bread up with Underdog, download the app, use promo code GUILT.

Zion, I'm just kidding. Please don't pull up on me or something illegal. Okay, sir? I'm just kidding. I'm just getting my sea legs back. That grip was gripping. It had me flinched. What you saying, man?

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That seems like a very low number for a revenge game. They was calling Luka fat, lazy, alcoholic. We might see something crazy tonight. We're going to see it. We will be there to see it. But we would normally do Gil's partner pack at this time, but Gil, you wanted to try something crazy tonight. We're going to see it. We will be there to see it. But we would normally do Gil's partner packet this time, but Gil, you wanted to try something different today. I see you got the phone.

Oh, yeah, you know, I had to hit some of my people up, and I told Big Berm. What's up, Big Perm? Big Berm. I said, I'm going to call him, man. I need him to do something for me real quick. Call Big Berm over at Underdog. Berm, thank you for the sweet. Okay, had to strong arm it, but nonetheless, I'm going to call him, man. I need him to do something for me real quick. Call Big Berm over at Underdog. Berm, thank you for the sweet.

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Nah, he got an Android. He got the drone. And that's that white man phone right there. Can you hear me? I got you. I got you. There you go. What's up, Burr?

How we doing? Good, man. How you been? I'm good. I'm good out at Indianapolis for the combine. Looking forward to seeing you guys next week at the Humboldt. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. We gonna be at San Diego? Yes, sir. Can't wait, can't wait.

But look... You got my man Kyrie at 26.5. Uh-oh. I need you to do all the fans and the supporters a solid for me. Can you move them down to 20? 20?

Just 20. This is Gilbert Arenas asking. Come on. I mean, Jeremy might kill me, but for you guys, I think I can make that show. Hell yeah! Goddamn. Hey, man.

Hey, man. Hey, man. I just sold you my soul brother. Man, what are you going to do? From another mother. What the hell? I wish I would have known that. I would have waited for my.

Man, what the hell? I appreciate it, Burr. Thanks. Thanks. Of course, guys. Gotta get back to the show. You know he rich. I'll talk to him.

All right, Burr. Thanks for the sweet, Burr. Appreciate it. He got a halo hat on. Hey, man. Basically, in the sweet, bro. Appreciate it. He got a halo hat on. Hey, man. Basically, in 15 minutes, I had $500. You know he rich. $500 for that shit.

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Go pull up to Underdog. Kyrie's done. Kyrie's got it down to 20. Kyrie's got it down to 20. Gil, you paid a bill, so I guess you can move lines if you want to, but we're going to drop your points. Yeah, I'll be trying to move LeBron line to five points. Damn. Shit, I know he can get that.

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Kill us after the show. She's going to dive on you. Go get that cake, Dan. He's like, what did I eat yesterday? Shit. Some rocks. But let's get into the show. So 2019 number one overall pick.

In front of the program, Zion Williamson has battled some weight issues in the past. But a recent report on him says that he's doing well in that regard these days. Let's take a look. So according to ESPN's Michael C. Wright, excited to see how Zion Williamson looks, heard he weighed 264 pounds just two days ago, which would register as his lightest weight since the Pells drafted him. Okay. So Zion is listed on NBA.com as 284 pounds, which indicates that he's lost about 20 pounds at the start of the season. But let's be real, according to our crew, Gil, and our just looking at him, there's been points where we thought he's surpassed that 300 pound range. Still effective, still dominant on the court. But you know, that's led to some injury

issues in the past. But reporter Westlaw seems to be helping Zion over the last 10 games. Zion averaged a 27.7 rebounds, four assists per game, while posting 62, 50, 67 shooting splits. So we talk about Zion a lot. Friend of the show, Zion, please don't pull up on us. If you do, come sit on the couch. It'll be brotherly. Don't give me the double grip. You think Zion's weight issues are officially behind him?

Super. Everything is not a possible thing, man. That was crazy. The double grip. That was crazy. The double grip. That was crazy. The double grip. We all stopped and looked. We looked up like. No, I didn't.

The double grip. It went in, but it didn't register. The double grip. Then he did it. I was like. The double grip. No, because I only know double grip to be one thing. The double grip on the shoulder.

That's crazy. I got you with the shoulder, so I understood what you're saying. But the double grip. Yeah. The double. The double shoulder grip. That's different. That's real different. Double shoulder grip what you're saying. But the double grip. Yeah. The double shoulder grip.

That's different. That's real different. Double shoulder grip, not this grip, this grip. Whoa, whoa. Now that's possible. That's possible. Yo, it's getting crazy. It's getting crazy.

He talking about not like this, like this. You got to pick it up first. You got to pick it up. We only got a couple days left, Blackhead. Damn, Joe. I'm trying to enjoy it. Joe. Yeah.

What you got going on? Fuck it up in the back. Fuck it up in the back. Sorry, guys. Relax. Director paused it only a week away. I'm sorry. I'm getting antsy.

Look at that. It's the memes in the nightmares. Memes, yeah. It's all you. Part two. Double grip. Double grip. But do y'all think Zion's weight issues are officially behind him? I didn't even do the flex follow. Goddamn. Double grip! Double grip! Double grip! Double grip! Double grip!

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Double grip! Double grip! Double grip! Double grip! Double grip! Double grip! Double grip! Double grip! how Winston's weight issues are behind him? No. No, I mean, not in a negative way. Just, no, this is his NBA challenge, right? You know, he's gonna... He's fighting himself the rest of his career, right? There's no opponent out there

that's gonna be more detrimental to his career than himself. So, you know, every year he has to come into training camp at a certain weight knowing that, you know, he's going to gain during the season. And if he do gain during the season, he has to remember how he got it down here so he can get back to what feels comfortable. And I know with how he plays, people think he needs to be stronger. But if you look at him in high school and that first couple months of Duke before, you know, he got out, he got hurt. He was way explosive at about 250, 240, whatever he was. Right.

He jumping out of the gym, head at the rim. Yeah, no injury. He was crazy. That weight will still make you stronger than anybody who's going to try to jump with you in this industry, right? So whoever's telling you that you need to, like, you lose muscle, because it's all muscle. It's not like we're looking at him. He looks like he has 20% body fat.

He's just muscle weighs more than fat. So his muscle mass is just really heavy. So he's gonna have to really cut a lot of muscle. But he's bottom heavy. He's bottom heavy. He's bottom heavy. Yeah, he's like Yao and all those big guys. Tree trunks.

Tree trunks. And it's unfortunate that that's his genetic makeup because like he said said he's gonna struggle with the weight influxing and decreasing all that kind of stuff and the nutrition is one thing it's you know water weight It's all that kind of stuff but it's like he said catching a routine that when you see that is going up and you might have Cheated a couple days on eating this and you know your shit go up when you cheat You got to have a regimen ready to get it down.

And you can't take two weeks to do it. Like, it's got to be a two-, three-day thing. And I think Zion, he's been waiting for this opportunity to show everybody what he looks like at this weight, where he can prove. How many games he played to do this 27? He's played 20 of 57 games this season. But the 27 that he's averaging now? Oh, in the last 10 games. The last 10 games. That's crazy. He's played 20 of 57 games this season. But the 27 that he's averaging now.

Oh, in the last 10 games. The last 10 games. That's crazy. He's sending a message. Wouldn't you, if I'm him, like, wouldn't you move him? Like, so he can go somewhere else? I mean, it's no...

If you're the company, are you going to move him? Yes. We think his player is the company. Yeah, because, I mean, what's the future here, though? What's your... You got to think like the business. I understand. The businessman.

Are you going to ever find him again? How long is it going to be? No, no, no. I'm more worried what have you done when you had him. Right. And how long have you... So it's kind of like the Lucas situation, right? You got to remember, there's a difference between success on the record

and success in my pocket. Right. Very two different... And you think that he's been successful? on the record and success in my pocket. Right. Very different. And you think that he's successful? So, yeah, them jerseys is selling. That goes to my pocket. That's what I'm saying. And it's in New Orleans.

So it's not like this market is like... Like OKC market. Yeah. You can get something for him for the draft and let this young'un go somewhere where he can really develop the the Lucas situation Lucas are like Dallas gave up Luca it's actually a better situation for Luca and he's around Dallas around so right so right so Lakers is like hell yeah right right

thanks like you him a favor yeah I'm sorry cuz Dallas is bigger than New Orleans yeah no one is they got no they got what I'm saying is as the business of it this is my moneymaker. So you just got rid of Brandon Ingram. That's all you got. He's not my moneymaker. I get it. It's all he got.

He's my best player. I get it. But right now, he's 27 a game after 10 games. He's my best player. Brandon Ingram's my most consistent player, but he is not Zion to the world. And Brandon's gone, though. Right? So if I have to trade one of them, I'm going to trade to one Brandon Ingram.

I can't replace the name. Zion is a brand. He's a brand, yep. And he started it. But they just did it with Luka. What I'm saying is he's Jordan. So what's the difference? There's no difference.

So what's the difference? Everybody ain't stupid. I get what you're saying. He's saying the big 325 max that Zion could get that they can't afford, why would you keep that on your books knowing you can't afford it? Well, they got Zion on that. They signed that five-year, $197 million extension, but not guaranteed he got all those weight clauses in there

where he's got to have the combined weight plus body fat. Are we going to win, or are we just going to keep going through the same motions? But do you care? I think what Gil said, do you care about winning if he's got to have the body fat. Are we going to win or are we just going to keep going through the same motions? I think what Gil said, do you care about winning if he's putting people in the seats? You're making money. Let's say you're making $50 million a year on him. Just having him there. And if you trade him and bring it back,

you lose everything that came with him and now you're making $10 million. I think they should move the team. What I'm saying is now you're making $10 million but you're winning. Do you really care? You lost $40 million. 40 lost money like i asked i mean they always losing money i asked the owner i said 10 years right it was 10 years you win five championships and make 200 million and then in them 10 years you win five championships, and you profit $200 million. Or you win no rings, and you make $500 million. That's a $300 million.

But it depends on the market, though. But what I'm saying is they pick the zero rings. I mean, yeah. They're a business. My business is a business. Because that's, yeah, you need a return on your investment. But, okay, but also if you are winning, you will get a return on your investments. Winning does. Yes, yes.

In the longer run, like in the longer run, if I'm winning five championships and I got $200 million, you know what them five championships are going to do for the rest of this franchise, for the rest of the life. I'm already known as a winning franchise, so the money is going to come. I mean, I might not be here, but the money is going to come because my value is going to be higher because of winning. It's still economics. That's in theory. If you ask, when was the last time New York Knicks won anything? But that's the New York Knicks.

So you Chicago Bulls, they won six titles. Back then, they had one nothing. And then as Chicago was trying to rebrand, they never got back to being Chicago. It's a big market. Yeah. Right? D. Rose didn't. What was the start rebrand. They never got back to being Chicago. It's a big market. Yeah. Right? D. Rose didn't.

What was the start after D. Rose? So D. Rose was the guy that was going to take them back to that number that he's talking about. So with Zion, if you lose Zion, it's hard to get a player that can make up that number. That if he just sit there for the rest of his career, as an owner owner i'll make my money back just having him because we don't have another name that can bring people to even want to see us play we need him but if there was a win but chicago they they'll never lose money because it's chicago because of winning right so so it was not more than a minute no no no it is it's a mix of both it's winning too man economics of the city you can It's the economics of the city.

You can't change the economics of the city itself. But he helped the economics change. New York doesn't need to win. They're going to profit. Right. Lakers, Clippers. I know what he's saying. All big cities don't need it. Clippers, they don't need to win shit because of the city itself.

Like, let's say Wimby. Wimby in Spurs, right? Wimby can be an MVP five times in a row. Those front row seats can only go at a certain price because of the economy there. Wimby can come

here, and he can have 61 games. That shit can go from 2,000 to 25,000. Easy. I mean, we're seeing it with Luka right now. Yeah, Luka, yeah, change. So that's the difference.

There's only certain markets can't do much of nothing. So if you have a Zion, and he got the seats at 2,000 while losing. And we ain't never had 2,000 seats. We ain't never had 2,000 seats. You bring in winning. Yes, I have. With CP winning. Yes, I have. With CP there. Yes, they have.

No, they didn't. When CP and them was winning? With the Hornets? Maybe. Maybe. Maybe close to it. There's nothing you can do about your, you can't change the price of the, it's just like a house in Atlanta, right?

I don't give a fuck how many people bought it. The Bucs court size are way higher than they were before they started winning championship games. I know, but what I'm saying. I don't give a fuck how many people bought it. The Bucs' court size are way higher than they were before they started winning championships. I know, but what I'm saying is... So it's like if the Lakers come in to play the Milwaukee Bucs... The Lakers. Okay, the Lakers, let's say KD and them, whoever. The ticket prices are way higher. Now because of their...

It's the person who's coming. Yes, it's the person. The people who's coming to see. Because if it changed back when the Wizards come in, say the Lakers come and go high, the Wizards come in and go low, that's the person, the people that's coming to see. Because if it changed back when the Wizards come in, say the Lakers come and go high, the Wizards come in and go low, that's the difference. So the value is not in the team. But the value is still in the team.

Now think about, like, Lakers come to Milwaukee, and those teams go from 2005, right? Giannis comes to the Lakers, those are from 5 to 15. Easy. Same two teams playing. For sure. Or you're bringing more value into a city that's already got value.

So that's the difference. So when you have a guy like a John Morant, when you have a guy like, you know, Vince Carter, Allen Iverson, even if he was in a horrible city, LaMelo Ball, it's hard to get off that player. Because I don't need to win with him.

Yeah, but the Mavs might have did that for, they might have had an ulterior motive with that. Yeah, we don't know what their motives are. It wasn't solely on that. All the stuff they got going on behind the scenes. But what I'm saying is I can't afford, we can't afford to not have a superstar. We're not you know what I mean? When you talk about for sure answers your question about why Dallas did it because they had to They can bank on Kyrie to be the other guy if you're not gonna call him a superstar, but he's a star

Okay, that's two stars. We can get off this star still have chance, but can't bank... There's no telling if Kyrie's gonna stay, though. But we can't... You can't bank on what Dallas did because there's nobody in the world that thought that was a good trade besides them. That's why they're still talking about it. 100%. People ask, Are you gonna get rid of John Morant?

Hell no. Why would we do that? Fuck off. I've had this team for how many years? You never had a player like this. My team been to the for how many years? He never had a player like this. My team been to the playoffs how many years? And he makes more for us than all them teams combined. I can't trade that. But can you afford it?

Oh, go ahead. No, I was just going to give you just this context. So I think 2023, Pelicans were worth $2.5 billion. Now fast forward February 2025, they're worth $3.3 billion. So that franchise has increased $800 million in value anyway just with having a player like Zion on that roster. You know what's impressive with the Zion thing and the reason you just can't get rid of him?

There was a report, right, last week, that he became the third fastest player to 5,000. The youngest. Active player. Active player. Third fastest player to 5,000 the youngest active player Luca LeBron and in him and he's missed half his career Are you think just like understand he's missed half his career Due to injury, and there's the third.

Incredible. Right. So if you know all that, are you going to build around him, though? Like this guy is, are they going to be able to bring guys to the team? I understand that. Do you consider his trajectory to be similar to Joel Embiid's right now? Yes. That's why I asked that question. Yes, this is why.

Because that's a good, it's a good, you're going in a good direction. Because I'm trying to understand. If we say we see this in the details now, is he going to become this guy who has this talent that we know is this good, can't hold it together? Is he going to be that guy? Yeah, now, if he is, cool.

How old is he? 24. 24, turned 25 in July No, he's young but I'm just saying the way they're talking about guys like, you know The way we talk about Tatum the way we talk about these guys that's in that mix already. That's already hidden this this level It's like well, what's what is New Orleans gonna do to be able to get him in that conversation? Yeah Yeah, he's gonna be able to get his numbers I'm not sure about that

But you know how we already talking about these other players. In a minute, we're going to be talking about them just like that. Then what? But we don't know. Right now, he's only 24. But who's going to come to New Orleans? No, but that's the city's problem.

No, but we're critical of players similar to him that can't get it done on teams. Like even AD. AD left New Orleans because he got tired of not being able to get it done. teams, like even AD. AD left New Orleans because he got tired of not being able to get it done. So it's looking like a thing. And it's looking like a thing. So then he got DeMarcus down there, then he had Rondo, and it's like, we still, we New Orleans.

It's like being the Cleveland Browns. But that's what I'm saying. Man, we the Cleveland Browns. That's what I'm saying. There ain't too much we can do. So if I have, we are the Cleveland, right? No, no, no. You're dead ass. That's what I'm saying. There ain't too much we can do. So if I have a... We are the Cleveland, right? No, no, no. You're dead ass. That's what I'm saying.

It's a snatch. You're dead ass. So it's either... So as the business itself, you either got to have a superstar that people are going to come out and see, or you got to have a winning team to the point where you're looking like OKC. Yeah.

OK. So how are we going to go? Now, OKC can fill up that arena, right, with winning. Kevin Durant did that by himself. Kevin Durant jersey outsold that whole team combined. When he left and Russell was there, Russell's jersey outsold. Like, you know what I mean? So what they have to do as a team to take away, to bring in the same thing one person brings in.

So if you're New Orleans itself, what's your chances of finding him? No, not a core. Fuck a core. Him. Because at 24, if you're going to say, all right, he's going to have the same thing as Joel Embiid, cool. I don't want to get rid of him now. No, no, that's fine.

Because then I'm going to miss out on my motherfucking MVP. Okay, no, that's fine. You know what I mean? That's fine. I might miss out on a scoring title. I want that in this city. Right, okay. I don't want to give it to you, and then you benefit, and Zion goes to goddamn New York,

and now he's finals MVP, and he gets all that shit. I look dumber than a motherfucker. No, that's fine. So I'm going to hold on to him where... But how he going to get MVP? But how he going to get MVP with no team? Because his team ain't even close to Joel and B's team. So we talked about Zion in that last stretch,

having 27 points a game in the 10 games. Pelicans 14 and 43, I believe, what? The worst record in the West right now? Tied for the worst record in the West. But per our conversation yesterday, are Zion's points easier this year because the Pels are bad or harder, in your opinion, Gil? Easier or harder?

Easier to get that 27 or harder to get that 27? I think it matters. Hey, man. We've watched him destroy at every level. When he's healthy, no one physically can keep up with him. So with stars, without stars, they can't guard him, right? So the only thing that's guarding him

is himself at this point. So obviously, if you put more stars around him, like his 20 becomes easy because he doesn't have to go as hard. It's harder now because now you can just focus on him. But he got a couple players that can hit shots. But he's only going to get better the healthier he gets. He would look great in purple and gold. I think those are two colors that...

No, no. From a color scheme standpoint. So that's what I'm leading at, too. I'm just saying, like... I'm just saying. I'm not talking about basketball. I'm just saying... Because you always said, like, about players...

That's what I was going at with. Does New Orleans have what it takes to even keep this, you know, or do we, you know... So we asked the chat, should the Pelicans trade Zion? 64% said yes. Yeah, man. Very intelligent chat.

You guys are doing great work today. Hell yeah, intelligent. Like, I mean, as a Laker fan, hey, listen. We got Rui, we got Gabriel, whatever you want. Alex Lin. Yeah, whatever you want, man. You want some fantasy drafts? Five second round picks.

We can give you whatever you want. You want to build around this bitch? I'll give you a build around you, want to build around this bitch? I give you a building right, but you gonna give me Zion you gonna give me goddamn Lamello ball, whatever you feel about those guys. Let's just make me all it's some higher. Okay, cool. All right is Reminiscing to the kg situation. Well, y'all talk about MVP. Mm-hmm. Zion can get a MVP in New Orleans It would reminisce when KG got it in Minnesota. Right? And that energy made KG feel like, we got a chance, because I think they went to the

Western Conference Finals that year. So you look at, if you do put a couple pieces around, and he does become a guy at 25, 26 that could win be it, be the guy that's like, we need a couple pieces, we can take it there. You look at the KG situation, when he did get MVP the next season, they split the whole team up because they couldn't afford Sprewell.

So with him, you get rid of Brandon Ingram. Is CJ still there? CJ there. DeJounte Murray has a killing rush. So you got two guards that could, you know, but you don't got no dynamic guys like him. Like he need guys like him that either the point guard or center position that can go get.

Something that match my energy. We talked about that squad last year. I think they were like 0-24 in games where they were down in the fourth quarter, whatever it was. But those close games, that ability. And we thought, you know, for me personally, this year they would be able to get over the hump if that crew could stay healthy.

Obviously they can't. They can't stay healthy. Now they tie for the worst record in the West. Nothing can stay healthy in New Orleans. This is what I'm saying. Right. Right. So I get it, though.

I mean, I get it. If you want to wait until you get MVP, but listen, man. Yeah. I mean, no, I'm far as a business. If you're the penalty, yeah. But if I'm Zion and I know, like, you know, 24. It ain't going to happen here, yeah. And I know where my peers are and where they finna go,

and I'm stuck here, man, I'm assing out. You also got them on a favorable contract, too. I got them. So, like, I'm an ass out. I want out now. Like, y'all talking about I got to do all this shit, boom, boom, boom. I'm back down. And y'all not.

Man, I'm out. Yeah. Please let me go because I know everybody else finna be making moves and you're not finna have me. I like that energy, though. I like that. Huh? I like that energy.

I know what you're gonna rebuttal again because you're the owner, but as far as his energy... I'm asking out. I'm gonna be like, what did they say Pat Riley was doing with Jimmy Butler?

I was just bullshitting, man. I didn't mean to be the BJ. Like, come on, man. It's all right. It's all right. It's all right. No, I don't want to hear that shit. You want to stay in my house

while you want to be the general manager? Tired of them all right. No, I don't want to hear that shit. You want to stay in my house while you want to be the general manager? Tired of them damn crawfish and shit, and big booty women and all that shit. I need to get focused. These big booty women are distracting me. I'm out there on the Sunday line and dancing. The second line.

Like, I'm fucking, man, let's fucking get the business. Let's hoop, man. Let's hoop, man. If you want salad, whoever makes salad, I can have them just bring it to you. It's just sipping. You want the LA salad? I don't want no damn leaves. No, bro. Let's hoop, man. If you want salad, whoever makes salad, I can have them just bring it to you. It's just sippin' soon. You want the LA salad? I don't want no damn leaves.

No, bro. I want one with some burgers. I can build tender greens in your house. Just don't leave me, son. Just don't leave me. Tender greens, a fine Los Angeles establishment. If you ask them work, I might stay. Just don't leave me.

You need your child support paid for. I think I can do that. Handle that, and we might even have a conversation. Hey, that's why they follow the order, bro. You're not leaving, bro. Listen. What you want? You're not leaving.

What do you want? Look at my peers. He didn't even start looking at his peers. I know how people think. You got women problems? How much you paying in child support? I'm going to take that off your plate. I'm going to give her a job here.

Bring over here. I'll make her work. She cool. I'll bring her a job. I'll make her work. She cool. I'll give her a job up there. Make her work remote, though. Get her ass far away, though. Make her work remote. You're going to take him off town.

She's going to be happy. And I'll double your money. And she's going to be happy. Double your money. Take him off town. He's not going to be a problem. What? No problem.

No more. She's going to start dating the team. She's going to be crazy. She's not going to make it happen. She's going to be with you. She's going to be like, that's not enough. You're getting $10,000 from him. I'll give you $20,000 and leave him alone and come on up here and work.

Still not enough. They evil. They evil. I want him. I want him. I want him. No. That's not enough.

Yeah. Him. Don't bury him. I've been making this potion for 10 years. Put him in that bag. What's that bag? Go get that bag. That's what the bag. That's what they want to put you in. A 10-year potion for 10 years. What's that bag? Go get that bag. That's what they want to put you in.

A 10-year potion. 10-year potion. I've been trying to get you to sit right. I'm going to give you a dedication. What? Well, let's get this thing to school. What? I'm a...

Your private school is... I'm already paying you $200 million. What's an extra million a year? For whatever you need. For whatever you need that you don't want to pay for. Yeah. Private jets for your family, whatever. A little side crib over here.

That's what I'm saying. People don't, like, the owners don't understand, like, these problems we have that are minute seems big to us. Yeah. I can make a million dollars a month. Someone asking me for $10,000, it irritates me. I don't like how you asked it. That's right.

Ken, you was just talking about that. You know what I mean? I don't like how you asked that. Like, hey, man, can I get $10,000? Like, all I heard was, can I get $10,000? That's it. Not for what? Give me that.

Money at this point don't even matter what the problem is. Right? Whatever your issue. You know, so if you're an owner, you know some of these guys are going through that, so you got leverage. We call it rookie transition program.

They don't, they're not privy to what they're telling us in there. If they knew what they was telling us in those programs, they would be fixing the problem already. They're telling us

the problems. They say, oh, you're going to run into this. You're going to run into this. You need to go get your finances right. You need to, all right, why y'all ain't solving this problem before I get here, before I get the money?

Like you said, an extra million dollars is going to alleviate, all right, I need an extra house for my work. I need a clubhouse and a little gym in the back for my kids. My mom and them, they drive right here and here. And whatever it is that's going to keep me cool that I don't got to do on my own. Yeah, that'd be. Whatever your rider is, I already, if you're coming to my team, I already have a rider for you. Yep. Right? Your first four years, I'm getting you at 18 to 22.

I know you don't really have, you don't know what's going on about being a pro. So, look, I got two new rookies. I got a compound for you two. Penthouse on top. Right? I got you an Airbnb that comes with its own guards, right? Own maids, serve its own chefs. You don't have to pay for nothing.

So your money doesn't... You don't have to spend it on nothing. If your parents come in town, we have a little place for them. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I will take away a lot of something that's about to hit you that you never had before. You've never had bills. You've never had a share. You don't know what none of these things are.

Man. These 18-year-old kids, like Zion, what you think they eat? First three years, they saw shit. What you think they eat? Yep. I was in college, in high school, this is what I was eating. And then I came to the NBA, do you just think I just know what Nobu is? No.

I know what the steakhouse is? They go to Nobu and ask for what? A burger. Cheat, can I get a cheeseburger? A burger? They be like, yo, you got a burger? You got a burger? Nigga, we in Nobu.

Burger. No, for real. Yeah. Not a wise thing to ask for a burger. And then they don't know what shake, They don't know what the shakes are like. All right, man. He never had a shake before. Shout out my sweet.

Well done. Hey, man, you can get a little medium. You good? You got money now? You got money now. A little pink on that motherfucker? Yeah. Well done.

Damn, bro. You got a well, well. Ain't no taste in this motherfucker. Well done. A1 sauce still. Hey, put some in the fill. A1 sauce. Come on, bro.

Don't ask for A1 sauce. No, but that's, you know, that's, so I will have a situation that's set up if I was an owner that protects my interest for four years. Nice. Right? It's just going to, I'm spending that somewhere else anyway. I can write it off anyway.

Yep. I feel like that's what they did in Europe with us. Like the roommates, like when I was, I had a room, like my roommate is Alan Ray. So like, like the roommates like when I was I had a room like my Roommate is Alan Ray. Hmm. So like, you know, why we room together we eat we got to eat breakfast lunch and dinner Like everything was like a family. Yep, like and all the players live by each other. Oh, yeah, they all are like dorms Yeah, it's like I mean you think a motherfucker from his parents house to a dorm with a roommate to a mansion by to a dorm with a roommate, to a mansion by him. Man. And he know what he's doing?

Yeah. Have no fucking clue. They don't understand. They don't know what the fuck they're doing. I ain't even been in that side of the house yet. I don't even know what's over there. I'm glad I have my mom in Italy. They took me to, they was like, we need a couch, bed.

I didn't know how to pick out no furniture. I didn't pick out none of that shit. I didn't pick out nothing. Literally. When I walked in. Shout out Ikea. No. Yes.

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but his current treatment, including regular injections, has not led to any improvement. He's averaged a 24.8 rebounds, 5 assists this season, but the Sixers are just 7-8 in games where Embiid, PG, and Tyrese Maxey have played together. So last night without Embiid, the Bulls beat the Sixers by 32 points, led by as much as 50 in the game. The eighth straight loss for Philly, longest active losing streak in the NBA. They've also lost 10 of their last 11 games overall. Sixers currently 12th in the East with a record of 20 and 37.

So the Sixers haven't officially shut Embiid down for the season just yet, but it's not looking good. And then here's some further info. So the list of potential procedures includes a meniscus replacement, low-dose radiation therapy, or something known as an ostetotomy that will require doctors to break a bone in the hip to realign the joint to alleviate pressure.

That comes from Marcus Hayes from the Philly Inquirer. I know, it don't sound good. It do not sound good. So is it time for the Sixers to shut Embiid down for the season? Or has it been time? I think we were saying this last year, right, during the Olympics, that he should have shut it down. We said it a couple weeks ago.

I think. Oh, no. But then we said in the summer that he should have shut it down during the Olympics time. No, we did not say that. I did. Y'all did that. Y'all was team heroes.

Yeah, we were heroes. Y'all was team heroes know, he always team heroes No, you thought that in a beach or represented this country to him as he did and we love him for wanna go Wow soldier for the you sacrifice of a sacrifice sacrifice his body and And now what and now He didn't get no Medal of Honor. He didn't even get no Medal of Honor. No, he didn't. It's gold. That was the achievement.

That was the trophy. Is that gold medal... My internship is two. So is that gold medal more important than making sure your health and your career and your needs and everything is good so you can... Who are you asking? Americans? No, I'm asking, yeah. Yeah, because he could have played for the French team

and fucked us up. No, he couldn't have played at all and then got his stuff together, then they would have been in a better position. I really personally don't care about Philadelphia 76ers, so, yeah. I'm talking about his career, though. A guy who's...

A guy's an MVP, a guy who can... Every time he plays, he's dominant, and now that you're sitting here, now they're talking about doing your knee again, another surgery. I look at it like this. They don't give a fuck about Embiid, so why should we? Do you feel like the Sixers don't give a fuck about Embiid, as you just said?

What they're saying today when training camp started didn't I say that he started off the season he was supposed to miss how many games? I think it was a couple games to start the season he was going to miss back to back all that came out I was like season's over with

I don't know what fucking basketball you guys think you're going to be playing and then PG went out with that. Game over. Preseason, Heiberg State. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This game over. Shut this shit down. First day. Shut him down for the whole year. Like, you've been sitting here doing what for the last three, four months? And we commended him last year for coming back, playing injured, helping them get to a certain level.

We was like, all right. I was like, all right, yeah. That's leadership. You wanted to come out and show. Played 39 games on the regular season. I expected him to sit out for the summer and get healthy so that he could actually make a real run, and that didn't happen. So now you got to.

He came back last year. Came back last year. Ruffled up his what's-her-name, going to the Olympics, ruffled up some what's-her-name. I think last year trying to chase that MVP, so playing in games you probably shouldn't have played in, trying to hit that 65-game minimum. This year had a different approach.

They didn't care about the 65-game minimum, didn't care about individual accolades, wanted to win a championship. That was the ultimate goal. That's why the no back-to-back. Ultimate win a championship, what year the ultimate goal. That's why the no back-to-back. Ultimate win a championship, what year? But coming into this season, he said the goal is

to win a championship. No, I hear what comes out the motherfucking house. Everybody say that every year. Right? But realistically, you're starting off the year already hurt. Already. Already sore. Already saying you can't play back-to-back. The first time y'all even thought about the concept,

we're not going to play back-to-backs, which already puts you at about 40-something games. Season over with. You ain't going to play nothing. There's no point in me playing your 40-something games. I just play your zero. I don't need half production at this point. I'd rather just shut you fucking down because I know it's 40.

You're going to be trying to what? Overcompensate? Yep. I need you to go out there and play a little bit harder now because we just lost last night. Yep. Like, no, you should have shut them down. See you next year, big fella. Just don't come back for 500.

I'm thinking being at a stretch where he missed 14 games this season, the game he came back, played 36 minutes. Woo! And then what happened the next game? Sat the next game. Sat it up. Then had three straight games, 30 minutes, 30 minutes, 38 minutes. Huh? So, we Philly, is it time to be like, you know...

Management, clean house, all of them. Everybody. Tyron Mack, too? Morrie, Elton Brand, all of them got to go. Elton Brand, cool. How long he been there? Mor cool. How long he been there? Maury. How long Brand been there?

Yeah, but when... I'm just asking. But when he was there, remember, he was lead dog at first. He got Jimmy. He had Benz, he had Jimmy, he had all of them. Yeah, but that's... Tom is up.

Yeah, but Maury came in and wanted to be Superman, and he's done fucked it up since. I get that. Okay, so Maury's out of there. But Maury coming from Houston, but before Houston... Owner too, you was still doing this. We still trusted in the process. At some point when I was mentioning, you got the teachers,

you got the people who hiring the teachers. You have to hold them accountable. Why are you hiring these teachers who teaching this shit? And we look at our results. These are all D's and F's. D's and F's. Ds and Fs. What kind of teacher are you? What kind of principal are you?

Like, we need real results where we can say we have a passing team. Bs, As, and Cs. You don't have that. You have two-star players that are playing D-level. That's weird. And there's no accountability for the people who put him in a position. You brought Paul George over here to do what? Exactly.

I'm just asking. What did you bring him here to do? To try to win a championship. All right. So whose decision was that? And was it a good decision? So far, it is not. Well, he was already getting personal with James.

We got to change the decision-making for the people who are making the decision to bring a guy over here. $50 million, he's only giving us this, and then he's saying we don't have no leadership. Why ain't nobody stepping into the leadership role and saying, you know what, we lost tonight because I didn't do my job. Me, first. Me, I got to do a better job of being a leader. That's my fault. Being a leader don't change the production. It, first. Me, I got to do a better job of being a leader. That's my fault. Being a leader don't change the production. It don't, but it gives you the blame to be on somebody

because everyone's to blame, but the leader got to, somebody has to step up and say, look, if I do more, we can change a little bit of this. I got to, and I'm getting paid 50 million. Man, listen, let me be the first one to step up and say, point it at me. Joelle's hurt.

You can point it at me. Maxie's hurt. Even Maxie. Maxie, step up. Hey, man, I got to do a better job. It don't matter who you point it at. That's what I'm saying. The result is the result.

But somebody got to still come to the head and say, listen, man. Why? Because somebody, y'all all look bad. Just because you raise your hand don't mean we give a fuck. But y'all all still look bad. Everybody still look bad. You giving a fuck about how bad you look don't matter to me. I just want you to know you look bad.

They do. Y'all all look bad. So as a leader, if you are a leader on that team and you haven't raised your hand in the interview, say, I got to do better. We heard Tyrese Maxey earlier in the season telling Embiid he needs to show up to stuff on time, be more active and present with the squad. But that's someone telling someone else what they need to do.

I need Tyrese Maxey to be accountable. For what, though? Everything. For what, though? You're the leader. But if it is my team, what does it change? It ain't about changing.

I lost by 30. Oh, I take the blame, y'all. Yes. For what, though? These motherfuckers still suck. When we by 30. Oh, I take the blame, y'all. Yes. For what, though? These motherfuckers still suck. When we go back into practice, I'm not regulating the blame for myself anymore. I did that for the public

to get it easy off y'all motherfuckers. But when we get into practice, oh, yeah. We know y'all motherfuckers ain't doing the job. I come out here and do my job. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Maxie has the... He's the only one that can really say that with that team. I go out and do my job. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Max, he's the only one that can really say that with that team. I go out and do my job

every day. Joel, how you not on time? How you not doing this? I'm doing it. Why y'all ain't got to do it? But he's younger and he's taking the step back to be like,

I got two OGs. Right, I'm waiting on, I mean, this is the guy. But nobody's accepting the leadership role. Nobody's saying, not even the coach is not even saying, it's on me tonight.

It's on me tonight. I fucked up the rotations. Everybody looking at it like, how did we lose by 50? Well, if I'm the owner, then I'm cleaning the house there. Yeah, but there's nothing to blame. The blame is we already know what the blame is going to be. The blame is the two stars that I was hoping that was going to be here, healthy, they're not

they're not healthy they haven't been what do I expect my record to be I mean I'm just but I'm just saying and then my young boy from Duke that actually looked like he knows what he's doing out there McCain like whatever he does he knows how to win he gets hurt so even if i lost these two that i paid big money for i had hope in the young boy jerry mccain seemed like he knew how to win more than maxie when it came to just getting things done and knowing how to win them two together would have been fucking hell which is weird because you got Oubre, Caleb Martin, and Eric Gordon all in the same position, and then McCain outshines all three of them and gets hurt.

So that's a detriment, like you said, to their team. Maxie and McCain could hold it together. But where are the rest of you motherfuckers at? So to that point, Embiid is the only one dealing with injuries. Talk about McCain. Paul George also dealing with a left pinky tendon injury and a groin strain. Here's what PG had to say about Philly's playoff chances after the loss to the Bulls last night.

Regardless of who's playing, who's not playing, to have admirations for this group to believe that we can be, not even to get into the playoffs, but make a push towards it. I mean, we've shown no sign of a team that will compete. And, you know, they just don't have the habits of a champion or a playoff contended team would have. So, you know, to be honest, right's it's a little far-fetched You know, all we can do is work hard

Try to just keep going for one another but we've shown no signs of Forget championship, but a playoff contender. Ooh! He's defeated. That gives me no inspiration. He's throwing shots. Bro, what the fuck? That's no inspiration. Like, I felt defeated listening to him. Strong words from PG there, but for you as the Sixers' bench, trust the process.

But in Bede's time in Philly, the process hadn't gotten past the second round. Bede's missed nearly half of the possible games he could have played in his career. So I gotta ask you guys Philly the process hadn't gotten past the second round beads miss nearly half of the ball possible games He could have played in his career. So I gotta ask you guys is the process cooked? Yeah process me Process the meat huh process already comes cooked It's already kid I came preserved with some shit that's not natural. How wild is it? They had a good burger. A little over half the season in Philly. Armando.

Already saying that. I mean, shout out to your point. I mean, he's literally saying we're not a championship contender. We're not even really a playoff contender. Who, PG?

PG's saying that. PG is talking to the organization. The same organization that gave him a four-year $220 million. No, he's telling you we don't even have

the habits of winning and making it to the playoffs. But that's what we brought you here for. No, no, no. You're supposed even have the habits of winning and making it to the playoffs. But that's what we brought you here for. No, no, no. You're supposed to already have that here. Why? Who?

Because y'all don't have it. We haven't been here. We haven't been there yet. Wait, hold on. Did the Clippers have it? We don't have it. When he went there? Did they have it already?

Did the Clippers have it? I'm asking. The Clippers. You out there with Kawhi Leonard and James Harden and all of them. So I'm just asking. You win a championship coach, Teron Liu. So were the habits there too? Yes. Or is it you Harden. So I'm just asking, you win a championship coach, Toronto Lou. So were the habits there too? Or is it you? The habits are... Because Philly

didn't have... They wasn't showing habits. I mean, they had like... Solid team. But it wasn't... Sixers made the playoffs seven straight years. No, no, for sure. We're not talking about the talent. We're talking about the structure.

You guys don't have winning structure around here. Coaching times, practice times, eating habits. What do you guys do pregame? What is our game plan? What is the winning habits? Prime example, no matter how many games Van Gundy wins, does he have winning habits? Yes. So what happened with...

So does Teron Liu have winning habits? What happened with the Clippers? It hurts. I got a better question. It's injures. You know what I mean? Gilbert, do you get mad when you lose? Yeah.

You get fucking furious. And if a motherfucker asks you why you lost, you might even get madder. Did that look like he was mad? Nah, but... Nah, nah, nah, don't save him. Don't save him yet. Just let me finish.

Just let me finish. You know there's only a rare group of people... I know. ...that's gonna call out teammates... I know. ...and it's usually not the superstar. But I'm saying, being visibly angry at the moment of our team, he didn't look angry at the fact that, man, fuck this shit.

We got to turn this shit around, man. Fuck. I'm tired of fucking Luke. Like, if you're giving me this energy, I know that you're trying to do more than what it seems. But if you're not giving me that energy, you're giving me... That's not mamba. You work with the mamba.

That's not the mentality we give. No, that's not... Man, we got to fucking work. Man, we got to fucking... Man, I'm not giving up. I'm not giving up. That's rah-rah. I know, I know, I know. But sometimes you need that. Yeah, but he's never done that. I know, I know, I know. But sometimes you need that. Yeah, but he's never done that.

I know that. I'm not him, though. But that's where we are. That's never been you. Yeah, that's not him, though. And now that you're in this position, we're looking for some type of energy. You don't know how to give it to us.

Okay, but then we can just say, all right, the mamba mentality is always the mamba mentality. Well, the only thing that changes, the outcome is the atmosphere of the person in charge of everyone else, right? So you got Phil Jackson, right? So we know what that structure looked like.

Right, right, right. We know what Rudy T's structure looked like with Kobe, right? We know what... Byron Scott. Byron Scott, right? It's the same. We know what... D'Antoni. We know what D'Antoni... We know what it Byron Scott. Byron Scott. Right? It's the same. We know what... D'Antoni. We know what D'Antoni...

We know what it looked like towards the end. The same mentality. And he got to cuss these motherfuckers out. Every time. And the losses are still piling up. Yep. Because... But it turned around.

Because the... But it turned around. No, but the atmosphere itself has to be conducive. Because some people... I don't need to tell Russell Westbrook, right? I don't need to tell LeBron James. I don't need to tell KD, Giannis, to come in here every day and work like a motherfucker. That's their personality.

The coach itself has to say, all right, how do I get him to play harder? Him to play harder. A hundred percent. Because the player himself is just gonna Lead dog is the lead dog. He leads by example If my lead dog comes in here and he's upset with us losing it's a trickle-down effect So if you smiling and he frowning, he might kick your ass for smiling while we all supposed to be frowning. Right. So, like,

I learned that from certain pieces of leadership that I seen in certain guys. I'm like, dude, this motherfucker is pissed. Why are these niggas over here joking? Like it ain't serious. But then when a nigga go to another team that don't joke when it's time to hoop, now you see the

niggas go out there and win and play and all that. So I seen the difference between a motherfucker that's like, man, y'all motherfuckers think this shit is a fucking game? This ain't no fucking game. What the fuck? And then he go and start fucking with everybody and then he isolate himself and then he like, man, fuck this, I'm out of here.

But that's the atmosphere. Remember, he's coming in, this is his first year into this atmosphere. Don't think Kobe's up with that? These dudes are accountable. What I'm saying is they're accountable for their leadership. They're saying, man, it's on me to lead us into this energy. I can't come in here and talk about how, man, we just, man, listen, it starts with me.

No, for sure. No, it don't. It starts with me. I set the tone. But you don't. But that's a lot. Yeah, but he's the lead dog, though starts with me. No, for sure. No, it don't. It starts with me. I set the tone. But you don't. But that's a lot. Yeah, but he's the lead dog, though. But he's not the lead dog.

Well, I'm not speaking for Paul George specifically right now. Just anybody in that particular scenario, you're the lead dog. Even when Joel Bede is on the fence, he injured Mike Knott. You're second in command. You went from Robin to Batman. Now you Batman, my nigga. Don't get me. I don't know how to be Batman. Now you Batman, my nigga. Don't get me. I don't know how to be Batman.

Okay. No, but. Who's the lead dog with the Knicks? Brunson. Okay. So the way they playing right now. The way they act, they act like Brunson. Yes.

Right? They are acting like Brunson. The rest of this group in Philly, they act like Embiid. See, if you go back to Maxie, you already heard what Maxie was when he first got there. You already heard. They had to send

him like, yo, you don't need to train as hard. He came in with his work ethic. He is at the position now where he's challenging. Like, yo, man. He wants to be the leader. You can't do this, dog. It's like the Kobe be the leader. You can't do this, dog. It's like the Kobe and the Shaq. You can't do this, dog. I'm too young

to say that shit. So right now the rest of the group is following in Bede's mentality. Because he's the leader. Because he's the leader. Right? So that's what he's that's what the Paul George I'm listening to is like, yo.

He don't know where to go. He in the middle. Oh, man. This is not how y'all win games, man. Yeah. Show us. Show us. Yeah. Y'all going to keep following him or y'all going to start listening to somebody else now? Facts. But show us, though. But you know how that is in the locker room. 100%. When you got someone challenging an old monkey,

them young ones are like, yeah, we're going to see who wins this all. Yeah, we're going to follow whoever wins. We're going to follow whoever. That's how it goes. Well, see, you got to be on the court. You got to be on the court. Yep. So if I'm Tyrese Maxey, I'm on the court.

It's my shit now. I mean, yeah, it's my shit. Thanks. I'm on the court. So we asked the chat, should the Sixers shut down and beat 93%? Should the Sixers shut down? The nigg% said yes. Should the Sixers shut down? The niggas shut down!

What are we talking about? That's a ghost out there playing, man. It ain't fucking a beat, bro. What the fuck is y'all talking about? You're battling the ghost of AI? The ghost of AI. That look like me in Memphis and Orlando, goddammit. That ain't the age of zero.

That's Gilbert Arenas out there. Gilbert, no. Gilbert number nine. That is Gilbert. That is the process. That is Joel Embiid out there, bitch. Cameroon Joel Embiid. Cameroon.

Damn, not USA. Damn, not USA. Not USA. Damn. Damn. Damn. After what he said before, I thought... Cameroon, a great country. Duh. The Camero. Ooh. Damn. Damn. After when he said that part, I thought, the Cameroon a great country.

The Cameroon. The Cameroon. All right. All right. That's what I'm saying. Like, that ain't the process out there no more. That ain't the HVP. He's out there just running around shaking hands

and shit. What we also asked to chat, is the process officially cooked? 95% said yes. Mm. 95%. I don't think. Damn. We never met that. We've never had 95% said yes. 95, I don't think... Damn! We've never had 95 or nothing. 95. Hey, I think everybody watching the same shit.

They see the same shit. They're watching the same... And it's gonna be more of this. If we ask collective questions like this, it's gonna be more of that. So the chat is coming together. Chat, in honor of that, we're gonna give away not $1,000, but $2,000 a day.

We have crossed 926,000 subs. Damn. In our Gills Arena giveaway. Gills Arena giveaway. Clap if you want to. Y'all getting 2K because we rock with y'all. But let's keep this thing moving.

Former Lakers coach Byron Scott had a message for Commissioner Adam Silver on his Fast Break podcast regarding the All-Star game. Let's hear what Byron Scott had to say. Commissioner Silver, I love you. I think you've done a fantastic job. But listen regarding the All-Star game. Let's hear what Byron Scott had to say. Mr. Silver, I love you. I think you've done a fantastic job.

But listen, this All-Star game has gone to shit. Players don't want to play. Fans don't want to watch. We trying all these gimmicks. Let's get back to the basics. Let's go back to 80s basketball. You got the fan picking All-Stars. You got the coaches picking reserves.

They go out there, they play hard. Guys don't want to play, find their ass. That's what we got to get back to. And you know what? Go back to the old rules, too. Because I'm telling you, players will adjust, okay? But all this gimmick and all this other bullshit is three hours of watching TV with 40 minutes of basketball. Too much.

People want to watch the guys play against the best in the world. Let them play against the best in the world, but bring it back to the old days get rid of all this analytical shit and let's play basketball again Bring back 80s basketball shot. I see you have undergone a wardrobe change You have buttons now on the couch. Mm-hmm You look like you ready for battle, what do you think about Byron Scott's message for Adam Silver? Fire.

Fire. Finally, somebody said... Fired? Fire. Fire. Fire. I agree. Fire. You know, I know Gil don't like that 80s conversation shit.

And bringing it back to the 80s. They faked it, too. It was a great decade. I mean, they didn't... It was a great decade for cocaine. For Lord didn't... It was a great decade for cocaine. Oh! For Lord White. A hell of a drug, yeah.

Right. I don't know what part of the 80s... When people talk about 80s, I don't know what part of the 80s do they have embedded in their brain. The 80s didn't start in 89. It actually started in 90. Right?

I mean, 1980, the zero. Not 89. So the 90, right? I mean, 1980, the zero. Not 89. So the beginning, right? Where they had the delayed TV because they didn't know the motherfucker was going to show up because they was high as fuck. Huh? That, that, that?

They had tape delay, all that? Motherfuckers out here in New York and Philadelphia throwing games for crack? That 80s? That's the 80s you want? A crack hell of a drug as well, Gil. He's not talking about

bring crack back. Gil, he's not talking about bring crack back, bro. He's talking about the fucking rules and regulations of the All-Star game. Back then were better than now East West even come on bring some coke and we all gonna do a lot of coke But what I'm saying is then bring back the 80s style of that like nobody want to go back to the 80s for the all

Change that in the 90s. Did they play hard or was no they faked it to me. Listen, I gotta imagine He just talked about all the game all the three of bullshit with Kevin Hart and all these motherfuckers. They think the streamers are going to bring shit, and they didn't. It made it worse. No. So that didn't work. Because the streamers have nothing to do with basketball. Because you're scared to have a conversation with the players, like he said.

Find them if they don't want to play. If you don't want to play hard. There was a combo before the game, though, with expectations. But they changed it. Stop trying to be cool with the players. Stop trying to be the players' friend. He But they changed it. But they changed it. Stop trying to be the player's friend. Yeah, but they...

Have some... He got to put some David Stern in it. Like, listen, I don't mind Braun not playing an All-Star game because I get his legacy and that was some bullshit,

but LeBron would have been suspended if David Stern wasn't. What is wrong with the 80? What's wrong with today's game? They're not playing hard? Who said they ever did? The little clips here and there?

Right? 80s basketball, right, had all-star games, right? They did. Yeah? It was physical because it played like regular basketball. But one thing the 80s didn't have is they couldn't shoot for shit. And no skill. They couldn't shoot the ball

to save their motherfucking life. Can I say something? Yeah, but they were scoring like 100 and... They were scoring. When you were a center in an All-Star game, you know the thing that you wanted to do? Rebound, lock shots. It ain't about scoring when you were big in an All-Star game.

You know them motherfuckers gonna be shooting, shooting, shooting. But the one thing I know I can doers gonna be shooting, shooting, shooting. But the one thing I know I can do is play defense. Rebound, defense. I can guarantee you back then, there was a lot more blocked shots in the All-Star game than there was now because you compete and reach. Because I'm a big, I have to go get my just do. My just do is a block.

Because you shoot the ball so we're coming. Exactly. But the players are better. But the players are better. But the players are better. I understand that. But the defensive energy for a defender, I have a responsibility to defend the basket. I am an all-star for that reason. It's false.

It's a false narrative. Why? Because none of the guys now play defense in the all-star game. They don't even get blocks like that. If you can't shoot the ball, right, and you can't shoot the ball, and you can't shoot the ball, where are you going? To the lane. To the lane, right? So if we all just sit in the lane waiting for you to come,

it looks like we're playing defense because you can't shoot. So I don't have to go out there and guard you. I'm not picking you up at full court or half court or the three-point line. You don't shoot threes. So I'm sitting, everybody's sitting below the free throw line. How was that defense? Do you want to know what they shot in the All-Star

game? 1980. Oh, shit. He got the black book. I knew it was coming. 1980 All-Star game. Have a shot. They took six threes. One for six. That was 1980.

One for six? One for six. It was a powerful three, though, Gil. 1981. Hold on, hold on, Gil. Before you continue, who were the best guards in 1980? Magic. You didn't do that research.

Okay. So, there wasn't a Michael Jordan. Oh, let me finish then. Sir. 1981, they took two threes. 0 for 2. In the whole game? The whole game, right? So what are these motherfuckers doing then?

Coming to the basket, right? Easy to play defense if you only got one way to go. 1982. Woo! They decided we're going to take one three. 0 for 1. They didn't make the three? 0 for 1. Who were the bigs? Who were the guards? Who were the bigs? 48 minutes. Brandon, who were the bigs? Was the league a big league or was the league a guard league? Well, what was the guards averaging? I don't care. If your job was to throw me the ball down here, how are you going to be shooting threes? So everything in the 80s was all bigs?

If I got Ralph Sampson down here. You know who Ralph Sampson is? Yeah. You sure? Yes, I do. Okay. Ralph Sampson throwing the ball down every time. Who else was in the ball now every time who else is in the 80s was it Kareem? Okay, well the Korean famous range got no cream tomorrow magic starting every time or game every time was it who else?

Robert Parrish you keep out all these big Who's the guards though the guards got to be a bit soon no threes as the guards when we got these big motherfucking superstar, megastar dudes? Larry Bird? Gary! Okay. So, Gary, magic. Two guys.

So, uh... 12. As the time has been... So, 83. 83. Shout out Marvin Gaye. 83, they took four threes. One for four.

Okay, getting better. 84, they took five threes. one for four. Okay, getting better. 84, they took five threes, one for five. Okay, got worse. 85, three for eight. Got better. The three that was made was from the same one person, Isaiah Thomas. Then it went three for 10. Then they bumped it up in 87.

Ooh, they took 17. They only made six, right? Bird made his. Then it went four for 11 in 88, 89, five took 17. They only made six, right? Bird made his. Then it went 4-4-11 in 88, 89, 5-for-13. Now, now. That is improvement. The whole decade, they made 24 threes in the All-Star game, which means the only thing they were doing was driving the ball.

Yeah. Or middings. And dunks. In those years, I got bored just looking at it. They were shooting. You know how many free throws that they called this one? Three? They shot 60-something free throws game one, year one.

50-something free throws game two. So do you guys want to go back to a Whole bunch of free throws being called or scoring you got to pick your bad. No, we want to pick Competition Oh Competition I got competition. Here's the competition. Tell me tell me this. This is great. This is a great lineup, okay? Um Magic no, no, no. Oh, yeah Johnson, Drexler, one, two. Mullins at the three. Carl Malone at the four. Okay.

David Robinson at the five. The Abbey. Okay. That's one team. That's the West. The East, Isaiah Thomas, Michael Jordan. Ooh. Scottie Pippen, Charles Barkley, Ewan.

With the box, right? Mm-hmm. Worst all-star blowout in all-star history. Michael Jordan in the East got beat by fucking 40. Damn. That doesn't sound like an appealing basketball game. I'm trying to figure out the complaints of today's game when we got some of the people who are

complaining about today's game these are all how many all-stars did it happen did it just happen at one time yeah blowout yes for it's the worst I'm asking it's the worst I'm just asking by one of the best yeah but Gilbert not even Wilbur stop no no no we're talking about the GOAT. Why won't he answer? The GOAT lost by it with Isaiah Thomas, with Scottie Pippen. Defense, defense, defense, with Patrick Ewing. Defense.

Yo, Michael Jordan's team lost by 40%. They lost by 40%. I never knew that. Guess what? They was all on coach. Pass. No. Now listen.

That's 93. That's 93. Did it happen again? No. No, it didn't, right? The 40 point? That was 30s? How many times has it happened? That team's got blew out.

Since 2010. Oh, you didn't want to do ever? No. I said since 2010 to now, how many blowouts have we seen? And what's their greatest All-Star game? Anyone that went into overtime. That's how they do it. I mean, you can't go back in time and say that one time when they got a blowout about 40 and Jordan was on the team.

They didn't play no defense. Okay, so 2010. Say what? Two-point game. Five-point game. Three-point game. Two-point game. Five-point game. Three-point game. Five-point game. Eight-point game.

Five-point game. 23 in 2016. 10, 3, 14, 2, 20, 3, 9. And then you got, what, about about a twenty I wish I could see what he's reading I know he leaves out he leaves out what he don't want to say

I've already seen him do it he's already done it before he read a bunch of shit and left a bunch of shit out so I need to see what years was this from 2010 okay

to now to now to how many blowouts so he done read out four four blowouts. To now. To how many blowouts. So he done read out four. Four blowouts. What is a blowout? Over 10.

Over 10 in the All-Star game? Yeah, in the All-Star game. Wow. Okay. I'm glad he said that because we can go back to the great ones and see how many times they got blown out. So there's four blowouts. Keep going. I know you ain't done with 2025. You just went through like seven of them. 2025, it's...

2010 to now, that's 15 years. You should name out 15 of them. Okay, so you want to try it again? Okay. Joe, Joe, you read it. Take his phone and you read it. He's a liar. He's a fucking liar. You know you're going to let me get the phone? You going to let me get the phone? I don't fucking trust that nigga, man. You read it. It's a lot of big words up in here. Hold on. So from 20, what, 2010 on?

Bullshit boy. What? What? What? What? What? Bullshit boy. From 2010.

What? Bullshit. 2010 on. The first one I want to say is 2016, 23 point blowout. Wait, what? 23. 2016. You see, I told you he was real. He's in 2010. I know, but I'm looking for blowouts, Gil. Wait, what? 23. 2016. You see? I told you he was free. 2010.

I know, but I'm looking for blowouts, Gil. No, no, no. No, no. I want you to... No, read the blowouts. What I ask is read all the blowouts. No, I thought you read every game. No, we only wanted to know the blowouts.

Just the blowouts. Just the blowouts. We only want to see how he's doing it. I went through every game. I faked this thing out real fast. No, no, no. You didn't week. I faked it full. I, no, no. You ain't weak. I affect it full.

I called out 15 games. Finish him. I said 15 games. That's 15 years. I did 15 games. So from 2010 on, you said 10 points is the criteria for a blog. Correct? So 10 points or more.

And Gil, just to let you know, I just zelled myself $15 from your phone. Don't worry about it. Yes, sir. Somebody say, yes, sir. So two, nope, nope two nope nope nope nope so 20 like i said 2016 would be the first one so 2016 so that means them first six years nothing close game so it's 23 point loss west west beat the east 196 173 uh 2017 west won 192 to 182 so no close so and, is it 10 or above 10?

That was a 10-pointer. 2019, it was 178, Team LeBron, to 164, Team Giannis. Vision's getting blurry, hold on. Big words. So that's two, three? How does it matter? 2021, Team LeBron again, LeBron James, for those who are not familiar.

170 to Team Durant, 150. And, oh, 2024, East 211, West 186. So five. So in the last five years, there's been two blowouts. And then Team Shea, 41, or Team, excuse me, Team Shaq, 41, Team Chuck, 25 in this, but this, that was, it was weird. So three in the last, three in the last. 15 years. Three in the last 15 years

Three in the last five years Cuz if you count ten if you count more than ten Cuz it's his blowout style, which is 10 is not a blowout. I think I was 20 or yeah, everyone does But if he got him in the all-star game you get beat more than ten. That's a blowout It's all-star game in the all-star game not 10 is a blowout? In an all-star game. I'm not talking about a regular game. No, no, right. It's not a regular game.

Right. Not a game. 20, yeah. I mean, by... In any element of basketball, 20 is a blowout. Yeah, it's a dub. We're talking about an all-star game, bro. In an all-star game where people don't play hard to lose by 10, that's... Somebody's been...

Like, they're playing kind of hard. It's a blowout, nigga. Y'all got blown out. Seven. Keep it close. Eight, nine, 10, 11. So between 19, what? Hold on.

OK, so 1980. Let's just get rid of the game. 1990. Let's go 1990, blowout. 1990 was a blowout. 1992, blowout. Ooh, 94, they won by nine, cool. 95, blowout.

96, blowout. 97, blowout. 98, blowout. 90, oh, there was no 99. 2000, blowout. So for 10 years years there's been one two three four five six seven eight

We have to try if that's a boy and eight blowouts so from the 1990 to the 2000 there's eight blowouts. The only time it was close was 1991, 116 to 114. Oh, 94, it was 127 to 118. That was close. I love it. Three percent. I love it.

So two years, so two games. I love it. Two games out of the whole decade under your blowouts. So again, since we got the stats, what year are we playing the all-star game where it's competitive? Yeah. Yeah. I don't think he was making that point. Mm. Yeah. Yeah. All right, well.

I don't think. I've never been. I don't think he was making that point. He just needed to change the rules. Like go back to all the gimmicks. Get rid of the dumb shit. Yeah, the gimmicks. Like, yeah, you did all that to make yourself feel good about a point that had nothing to

do with what the fuck he was saying. The point is, we already had that regular ass All-Star. In the 80s. We had the regular All-Star for the last, what, when did they first change it? And it seemed to be doing well. When did they change it?

It seemed to be doing well. You was complaining in 2015, 16, Well, I'm talking about before that. Before that, it was doing well.

All-Star games, before that, it was doing well. I just named you 10 blowouts in, I said it was doing well. No one named you 10 blowouts in... I said it was doing well. No one was complaining

about the blowout. A portion of them was complaining about it. Because they were playing. We didn't have a complaint because the league was good. Why did it get changed? Because the players have changed. And because of all the gimmicks around it. Why are there gimmicks now? Because the players don't play hard.

No, because of what? Because the narrative of what the players don't play hard no because of what because the narrative of what they don't play hard Because they did it's a bad product. It didn't play hard So they started changing it trying to make them play hard They changed it from so it that means at some point when Kobe Bryant left and retired 2016 yeah, that's when the dynamic of the All-Star game shifted. You left it in the hands of guys who didn't want to play hard no more. But they didn't play hard before. There wasn't an example of it.

So if you see an example of, hey, man, in the last three, four, five minutes, he going, Ron, Ron is trying to pick that up. Ron is trying to pick up the last five minutes. We're going to go hard. So you don't think they do that? AD sometimes did it. You know what I'm saying? Bron did it one time.

But it's like when you do it, you got to be consistent with it. Like, we're going to amp up in the fourth. We're going to amp up in the last quarter. I know. So you don't think guys play hard in the last five minutes? I mean, not this year, of course. This year was kind of. But in these last years?

We see it. It ain't about do I think it. I mean, I'm not saying there these last years. We see it. It ain't about do I think it. I mean, it's a fake narrative. We're watching it. You're trying to compare how hard they're not playing to whenever we just bit the blowout on. I mean, they didn't play. I'm trying to figure out. You're saying this group don't play hard.

We need change. And then you say they need to play like this group. No, he didn't say that. You're trying to say that for your own point, bro. He's saying you need to have the rules. What rules? The rules that was continuing blowouts. The rules that got a 40-point blowout in the All-Star game.

You didn't. Hey, hey, hey. Play what he said again. Let LeBron get beat by four. This All-Star game has gone to shit. Players don't want to play. Fans don't want to watch. We trying all these gimmicks.

Let's get back to the basics. Let's go back to 80s basketball. You got the fan picking all-stars. You got the coaches picking reserves. They go out there. They play hard. Guys don't want to play. Find their ass. That's what we got to get back to. And you know what? Go back to the old picking the reserves. They go out there. They play hard. Guys don't want to play. Find their ass.

That's what we got to get back to. And you know what? Go back to the old rules, too, because I'm telling you, players will adjust. OK? But all this gimmick and all this other bullshit is three hours of watching TV with 40 minutes of basketball. Too much. People want to watch some guys play against the best in the world. I don't love the playback value when somebody's trying to make a point

that has nothing to do with what the man is fucking saying. And then you're talking about we're trying to change the narrative when you're the only one doing it. You said play hard. He said play hard. And you get beat by 40 from your metrics. In the 80s, one game. One fucking game.

By 40. How about the other eight games? One game By 40, how about the other eight games? One game in 1983. How about the other eight games? One game in 1983. I just named ten years and eight was blowouts. So what part of that are you playing hard? It was better than it is now.

That's what he's saying. Because you wanted to do it. No. That's not a real. It's not a fact. So why weren't the fans complaining then? I mean, there wasn't. I mean, we wouldn't know. I don't want to hear it. We wouldn't know.

We wouldn't know. I don't know what the fuck we're supposed to know. Because we know now. They changed it. No, nigga. We know why the fans are complaining now. Because we can't internet. Yes.

No, nigga. No. We're not going to do that. We're not going to do that. We didn't know why the fans are complaining. We didn't have internet. The internet. No, I don't know about this. You're not going to do that. You're not going to do that. We didn't have internet. Me and your father fans are complaining. We didn't have internet. The internet is not... No, I don't give a fuck. You had news.

You had news. The news didn't report it? Yes, they did. Okay, let me say it. You weren't born yet. I was one. How the fuck are you organized? Because I can see it.

Let me go fight. I can see it. Let me go fight. The whole point is this. You was reading the newspaper? Right now, there is a problem. In 1983, they didn't see it as a fucking problem. In 1993, whenever they lost by 40, that one time when Michael Jordan was playing,

no one gave a fuck, right? Because they fixed it. We're not going to lose like that again. All right, cool. I'm Michael Jordan. I don't like that. Michael Jordan lost by 40 points. Cool.

I can't believe this. Okay. All this man is saying is we need to get back to the basics It's the first thing he said so get ready get rid of the gimmicks Finish him get one more point and then we're gonna move on I do like that. I do like the fans and coaches reserves because he was only one Because he was only one years Because he was only one years old. And the internet is today. So it's easy to see what they said today. We don't know what they said in 80-something. But we know if one of our stars today lost by 40, 40 points in an all-star game,

his legacy would have been ripped from him whose legacy Michael Jordan the same person everyone complains about I mean I'm losing all the Roger. Oh, they gotta quit it. I think from when I was reading his team I'm gonna gotta quit now again after winning several fucking kidding me Kidding me With all defense like losing about 40 of a nigga Are you out there competing if you lose it by 40 in the all-star game with the best if you're an all-star and you don't suit Up are you competing if you're saving yourself for a championship run at 40 years old answer the question you got the question too can you answer it what was the answer 40 year old man saving himself for a championship that's what i respected that's what he said you're 22 i've already done enough for you guys that's what the man said i'm not playing in this gimmick on 30 minutes of basketball i'm not rolling he said

man players are quitting they don't want to play find fine they ass. I agree. Or get a spot up to somebody who want it. Well, I mean... Former head coach, Byrusco. Listen, man. Listen, man. I'm not being a part of this gimmick, but I'm taking this, what, 22-year all-star. We will take it.

Well, let's give you anything else you want to say before we move on. No, I'm just... Shout out to everybody in the chat. I'm just looking for... In the meantime, download the Underdog app, use promo code GILDUP to $1,000 in bonus cash, plus a special pick-em.

As a reminder, we're giving away $2 thousand dollars at least at the end of the show We have nine hundred twenty six thousand subscribers, but let's talk about some current present-day 2025 basketball Timberwolves and Thunder played a great game last night with both teams on the second night of a back-to-back Doubleheader after okay, see got the win in Minnesota Sunday Let's take a look at some of the highlights if we can thank you Paolo This one appeared to be out of hand with the Thunder leading by 25 in the second half and by as many as 16 points in the final four minutes of the game. But the Wolves stormed back to force OT. SGA did his best to carry the Thunder with 39 points, 10 rebounds, and 8 assists. But a key

block from in overtime preserved the Wolves' lead and Minnesota was able to complete the comeback. Jada McDaniels had 27 points and 10 boards. Nas Reed had 22 and 11 rebounds. Ant-Man had 17 and 13 rebounds and 8 assists, although he was on the bench for most of the fourth quarter comeback as he dealt with a calf issue. Did play an OT, though, to help secure that victory, as I previously mentioned. He was in there when it mattered most in the crucial overtime moment. But they really just tricked this game up. I was watching on NBA TV like a lot of people were. Thought it was cooked, thought it was done.

Needed Ant to get that 23.5, he did not. It was, come on, overtime Tuesday, I was like, all right, we put it back in. But let's watch the block though. Calf wasn't hurting in when he skyed up to beat that shit. For context, Chet Holmgren sat out this game for rest. Harkinstein left the game in the second quarter, did not return with a facial contusion. But all things considered, it was still an inspired comeback by Minnesota, tied for the largest comeback in franchise history.

Down 25, got the win over the top-seeded team in the West, the Oklahoma City Thunder, under the guidance and direction of Shea Gildas Alexander. But ask the couch, was the comeback more about the Wolves or the Thunder? Second half of the season, man. You know what time it is. Every game matters. It does. Every game is a message.

So even a game in February matters, right? Yeah. So let's just say a team goes into a place where they haven't won in a long time, they get a dub. Even if it's in February, that game matters. Every game after All-Star break, like LeBron said, I got to get ready for this championship run, or anybody that... I'm just talking about the Thunder and the Wolf.

I know, but just in general. I'm just saying, just in general. Anybody that's getting ready for the playoffs in that run, this is definitely important. Gil, you're so amazing with how they treated the 90s players. You get beat by 40, and it's like a celebration. Why are you bringing up the 90s players. You get beat by 40 and it's like a celebration. Why are you bringing up the 90s? Celebration.

Yeah, we have hopped into the DeLorean and gone to 2025. What are we talking about? I'm just looking at the articles back then. It was just such an embrace to see Magic Johnson back. He won an MVP and it was celebrations and SPAC. No one cared. It was a festivity. It was just... It was an all-star game. one cared. It was a festivity. It was an all-star game. Everyone out here enjoying each other, laughing. Everybody was clapping ass, clapping ass.

And we're having fun. Are we going backwards? 91 was a good all-star game. I like to prove my point. But you already in the bag. I like to prove it. We already threw the dirt on you, man. We threw the dirt on you. Back then.

We don't even hear you talking. You're a ghost. Then you shouldn't be responding. Casper, the friendly ghost, could you please leave? Back then. What are you doing in here? The reason you didn't hear it is because they treated the All-Star game as fun. And they had fun.

Fucking fun. So when he says, let's go back to playing hard they had fun in the scores kind of showed it you but they had fun It was a great thing. There was no negativity on the all-star game because it was a celebration So let's get back to the right to the 80s in the 90s acceleration. If you look at this dick, right? Yeah, I like this dick right. Yeah, I like that. You know, go out there,

drink, smoke, gamble, have fun, say what's up to my friends, let them win the MVP, challenge them because he's heavy and coming back. Yeah, that's amazing. I love it. I knew it was a great year. Man, I can't wait.

Shout out Magic for defeating HIV. But let's talk about 2025. Timberwolves Thunder. It's a message. 25-point comeback. It's weird. 16-point comeback, final four minutes of the game. It's weird how your brain, the human brain,

when you think about the past, you only think about the good things, none of the negative, so you can have a picture of it. So the people who are saying the all-star game, they don't play hard, are the same people who was getting blown out in the all-star games who wasn't playing hard.

That's the irony of this. The people on TNT that's going out saying these guys don't play hard. And back in my day, your day, you got beat by 40. That was a 40 point? I mean, if that happened to LeBron, they would be. What's going on? You got beat by 40? They would give him grace, right?

It's just LeBron. Yeah, right. Yeah, right. Yeah, right. They'd be like, this is the worst. They'd be like, this is the worst. They'd be like, this is the worst all-star performance by any. You know what he'd do the year after that?

Sit out. Fuck y'all doing? Y'all better stop fucking with me, man. I'm just trying to figure out. I don't understand what the fuck y'all talking about. They criticized me this year, so I'm going to just sit out this year. I ain't going next year. Dealing with the foot injury? I'm cool, man.

But then come out and kick the goddamn ball in the next game. Come on, man. Stop fucking with me. That's what Byron talking about. Man, fuck all this. What is these new niggas doing? Now, it ain't about new niggas. It's an old nigga.

They've changed the all-star game. This negative energy around the all-star game is about one person. That's it. The negativity on everything is one person. They have figured out how to make blame on one person. When I talked about the 90s, that's everybody in that All-Star game. The whole team got blown out.

The same guys who's running here saying they don't play hard. You got blown out. You wasn't playing hard. Actually, you got blown out in eight out of nine years of the All-Star game. 80s, it didn't even matter. Y'all couldn't shoot. Y'all was high as fuck.

So y'all get grace on playing hard. Like, so... Who you say they blaming? You said they blaming one guy? Who? LeBron James. The same person you just blamed. LeBron James.

Every time we mention... Who's blaming him? We mention All-Star Game, you always go after one person. Nobody said his name. But you did. Nobody said his name, bro. You did. I state the obvious, my bad, bro. It's okay. I state the obvious.

I state the obvious. I didn't say nobody's name. And people who don't like the All-Star Game, they didn't say they didn't like it because of LeBron James. They said all the players not playing. All of them running up and down like they supposed to be here and it's a privilege. He ain't say nothing about LeBron

James. You did. You just made it about him. You did. Because you can't dissect what everyone else is saying about the All-Star game if they're not saying it and mentioning this is why it's bad. I can say whatever the fuck I want about my opinion about why I think it's bad. So who's Mr. Bane?

So if my opinion is strong enough to start a narrative and roll the narrative and get all these people to agree with me, that's bullshit. Exactly. So the narrative that you're saying I'm pushing isn't even real. It isn't even real. It can't be real. You just said I'm the one always talking about LeBron and he's blaming LeBron. Nobody blaming LeBron. Take the blame if it's your fault.

You just blamed him. What are you talking about? Take the blame if it's your fault. Did you not hear what comes out your mouth? No, I didn't blame shit. So if it was Mike, would y'all be giving Mike the same type of— No. It would never be Mike. What the fuck are you talking about? He lost by 40.

He lost by 40! It would never be Mike. They wasn't complaining about Michael Jordan... Of course they wasn't. ...in the All-Star game, bro. Of course they wasn't. What are you talking about? Of course they wasn't.

And they're not complaining about LeBron James in the All-Star game. I think there was some complaints about LeBron. They are complaining. There was a claim about what? LeBron James in the All-Star game. I think there was some complaints about LeBron. They are complaining. There was a complaint about what? LeBron James not playing. So, who has done that? He just did it. Picking his team.

Hey, can we rewind this so we can hear it? Actually, everybody was complaining about LeBron James. I love you. I think you've done a fantastic job. But listen, this All-Star game has gone to shit. Players don't want to play. Fans don't want to watch. Stop it. Stop it. Players don't want to play. Fans don't want to watch. Stop it.

Stop it. Players don't want to play. Fans don't want to watch it. Players don't want to play. Who was the player that didn't play, Gil? Hold on, hold on. No, go back to the player. Go back to the player that they show, though.

Yeah, but he didn't cut that up. He didn't do it. Byron Scott didn't cut that up. That podcast did. Byron Scott didn't cut that up. That podcast did. As overseer of his podcast. But they know what they're talking about. Who else did not play? And didn't cut that up. That podcast did. Byron Scott didn't cut that up. That podcast did. That's the overseer of his podcast.

But they know what they're talking about. Who else did not play? Ant didn't play. Giannis was also injured as well. Giannis. Huh? Who else? Injured, injured.

Injured, injured. They both took up slots, didn't they? No. No, Giannis didn't. Ant and LeBron took up slots and did not play. Has anybody said Ant's name, actually? No, right? Okay. We were showing a highlight. Who is he his name, actually? No, right? Okay.

We were trying to highlight what we talked about. We tried, but I'm pretty sure. Who is he talking about? We know who he's talking about. Who is he talking about? The guy right there. The only person all media talks about. Why does he get to talk about this guy right now in this moment?

Why does Byron Scott get to point this guy out right now? Because he didn't play. All right. Whose fault is that? That's LeBron's fault. Okay. Don't blame Byron Scott for pointing out the fucking obvious. You just said he didn't.

He didn't what? Point him out. Okay. You said before that. Y'all saying he is. But you're saying he is. You're saying he is. You're saying he is.

He did. But you're saying he is. Because he did. Because he never said his name. No, he didn't say his name. Okay, so if you're going to say he is, I'm going to say, look, clearly the only guy he's talking about is the guy who didn't play then, huh? Anthony Edwards didn't play either, right?

Yeah, but why are they bringing up – why does Brian got to be a fitness then? Just say players. Like, why they got to picture Brian? Who's the face of the league? Oh, see. Okay, so – Steph Curry. So we know who he's talking about, but because he

didn't say his name, we don't know who he's talking about. There were multiple people that didn't play. So the faces of the league, how about that? Try that. Only one motherfucker been playing for two years. Only one. Have you not seen what you've been doing? There was two people. You keep

talking about one. There's another guy that is the potential face of the league that didn't play as well. So who could he be talking about? The same person you keep talking about. Who could he be talking about? He could be talking about Giannis. He could be talking about whoever didn't play.

He can't be talking about, but they both hurt. They not. They both still playing. They both played after the all-star break. Why y'all keep playing with me? Well, Giannis was both played after the All-Star break. Why y'all keep playing with me? But Giannis was already hurt before the All-Star break. Giannis gave up his slot. Shout out to Giannis.

Man, y'all got to get that hate out your heart, man. It's crazy. Y'all got to get that glaze off your lips. Hopefully done that glaze. What the fuck y'all talking about? Ain't no motherfucking hate. Motherfucker talking about I'm a hater.

You are. And you better get your motherfucking shit together before I turn into a hater. You've been a hater. Before I turn into a hater, I've been nice. I've been nice

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Shout out to Rough Greens. So we were talking about contemporary current NBA basketball I'm merely a host but I tried my best. I am a movie star now to God So I don't even know I'm sitting on this couch with all y'all y'all lucky I came to work this week shout out memes and nightmares still on Hulu streaming now How many get my numbers up, damn. Kenya said he loved it, just so anybody cares. Very tough critic. He hasn't listened to the new Kendrick getting full, but he did watch me at the Nightmare.

Just wanna point that out. So if he did that, that means he was rocking with it. But let's talk about the Wolves and the Thunder. Second night back to back double header. I'm confused. Oh my God. He can't help it. Yo, I'm a movie star now. He can't help it, dog.

No, I'm confused. Uh-huh. On. Where you going, kid? I'm confused. Where you going? I'm really confused. Hey, man.

Y'all caught me with the show. Y'all caught me with the show. Y'all caught me with the show. I'm really confused on the thought process. If you like LeBron, you glaze. That is... Right? J.J. Redding even said the youngsters take glazing. If you like Jordan, you're normal.

If you are a Kobe fan, you're normal. They don't get that glazing title that LeBron gets. I would be surprised. You know what I think? You know what I think? I'm trying to figure out, like, if you like LeBron, who has been the top player in it. So all LeBron fans are glazers with honey on them.

Known as L.A. Glazers. And then if you like LeBron, Clutch Sports pays you. That is the rumor. Still no check. I did get a Clutch hat, though. If you like Jordan and you glaze Jordan,

it's not called glazing when you like Jordan. You're just a purist. Yeah. Like you understand. You understand basketball when you like Mike Jordan. Yeah, yeah.

You know what I mean? You got motherfuckers out there who die for some Michael Jordans. Right? People have lost their life. Their five. Right? So Skip Bayless wears Jordans every day of his life. He's not a

glazed. He's not a glazed. He's just a purist basketball. And no one's paying him. No. Kobe fans, right, will move the world, remove stats, remove intelligence, say, hey, just the eye test.

Who got more skill? Who got the bag? All metrics of accolades just go out the window. That's not glazing. That's just basketball. That's just IQ. Just IQ. You go out the window. Yeah That's not glazing. That's not just Basketball that's just like you just like you just you just know the game. There you go No one paying them right Rashad has returned to the arena good

But my question has always been this Who My question has always been this. Who? No one attacks the Jordan fans. They don't. Right, LeBron fans don't attack Jordan fans. Well. LeBron's fans don't attack Kobe's fans. We used to. Only Kobe's fans attack everybody.

So who's paying y'all to attack LeBron? So who's paying you to hate? Kobe's paying me. Oh, it's for the love of the game. It's for the love of the game. I'd just be trying to do it for free. I try to figure out

if Clutch is paying me to like LeBron, who's paying you to hate him? God. God. Listen, it's the love of the game.

So LeBron just, you know, he just, 40 years old, can do it better than everybody, but you know, they actually want God says the light will shine on the darkness. They actually want him to go home.

Like, I'm trying to figure out, like, I have Michael Jordan. God said the light will shine on the darkness. We don't agree on that, but you do have that. I have LeBron. I have Michael Jordan won,

so why wouldn't LeBron pay me to keep him cute? Because you said you changed your number every... You said you changed your number to make it fit whoever you're talking about.

That's why. You said it out your mouth. I changed your number to make it fit whoever you talking about? That's why? You said it out your mouth? I changed my number depending on who my friend that day. No, I said... No, you said it. No, I said I got beat up

so much for the Jordans that he can never be removed from number one. Well, you didn't say that on this show. I've said it on this show. Gil Zarina presented by underdog Woo Woo.

Woo Woo? In case you're unfamiliar, just scouring through YouTube. And then you remember I also said that on this show. Gil Zarina presented by underdog, woop woop. Woop woop. In case you're unfamiliar, just scouring through YouTube. And then you remember I also said that Jordan ran cocaine out of the 80s. But you also said that Kobe was better than LeBron. Yeah. What happened to that? He is. Kobe ain't been playing since then.

OK. LeBron's game ain't changed since then. But he's still racing his race. How is he better if nothing's changed? Do you not understand that? Do you not understand the concept of... He's having a better ending. Right, like, in the beginning.

What I'm saying is... I thought we was in the middle of a whole conversation. No, you said it. And then he said, y'all keep letting him bring this shit back up to drag it on out for nothing. He's already lost the debate. He's already lost.

Why do you let him drag it on so the fans can be like, come on, man, we did 45 minutes just so he can feel good about losing. Cemetery Lair, I understand what you're saying, but when I get my check, being better, it always has Gil Bane. Being better than someone

and having a longer career is two different things. Hmm. So when are we going to have the conversation about who's the best player to have the longest career so we can put LeBron there? What I'm saying is just like anything in life... Just an obvious one. Longevity, everything plays a part. Well, no what I'm saying is just like anything in life. Just an obvious one longevity

Everything plays a part like in in in in everything like Michael Phelps His longevity in his goals all of his goals They account for his career Somebody can come and beat one time for you to be in front of him You have to match his production and beat it you can't just use these little things he looked like he swimmed better he looked better in the motion i don't care how you do something no matter it's about the product no matter how you fight for dude it's not fight for no matter how much you hate him i don't hate kobe kobe's my favorite

player that's the difference between the two of us. I have no hate in my heart. This is what I'm going to tell you. That's the difference between us two. I'm going to tell you this. No matter how much you try to convince me. I don't need to convince you. So then stop talking to me about it.

Then you stop bringing it up. I bring it up because you motherfuckers keep talking about it. Don't bring him up. Y'all talk about it every day. How about this? So don't ask me. Excuse me, sir. Run, man.

We've shipped you to Luca. I sit over here and I don't ask me. Excuse me, sir. I'm not LeBron James. We've shipped you to Luca. I sit over here and I don't say shit. And the first thing, first motherfucker he asked to say something about LeBron is me. I ain't planning on talking about a nigga at all. Rashad, what do you think about why the fuck are you asking me? Okay, because, you know, we work with them. We want to make sure that when you go out on your own, they come get you and all this fucking shit and they make these appearances and talk shit

about you. Oh, yeah, we got to have a fake goat shot. You got to be it. But at least have a conversation with me so I can prepare myself to be the nigga that everybody going to come on the show to throw shots at because I don't like the nigga everybody idolizes. I don't like him. Oh, shoot shots at

Sean because he's a hater. I got to like niggas that I don't like him. Oh shoot shots at shy cuz he's a hater That I don't like because you like him that's weak as hell That's like I got a fucking what I got a like motherfucking Denzel Washington cuz he like motherfucking Denzel Try to convince you to like Cuz he like Nelly? No way. I don't like Nelly. I don't like Nelly, bro.

You can't convince me to like Nelly just because you like him and everybody else like him. I'm going to do it on purpose now. You're not going to do it on purpose now. You've been doing it on purpose. Damn. It's like y'all forcing me to do this. No, you force it. You're the only one that picks a side. Music.

Who did we like? Both. Yeah, we like both. Nah, you gotta pick a side. Jordan, Kobe, LeBron. I like all three. Pick a side. He wants you to pick a side.

Don't debate when you like all three. You don't want to talk to the nigga that like all three when we all having a who's your favorite. It don't make sense. But you can be in the middle. No, you can't. Not in this conversation. You're just contradicting yourself. Not in this conversation because we're asking all your favorites.

Who's your favorite? Kobe. You have to have a favorite. My favorite's Kobe. So you can't say all three. My favorite. What the fuck are we talking about? My favorite is Kobe Bryant.

There's a difference. He said his favorite was Kobe. My favorite is Kobe. My second favorite is probably there's a difference he said it's coffee favor was Kobe My second favorite you took my second favorite is penny Hardaway Be having a favorite and someone being The best or the second best or the third best is very different. I can separate my Emotions to someone's legacy. I wasn't a Jordan fan growing up. We just talked about legacy But you gonna keep it real? But didn't we just talk about legacy yesterday? We did talk about legacy with Boogie Puzzles. I think he forgot

No, I'm saying I can't remove someone's legacy before because of my emotions. No one's legacy can't move Based on the fact that I've already stated that this man is the greatest player of all time. What man are you referring to? Raymond. Okay. Yes, Mr. Raymond. Not Raymond from White Man Can't Jump? No.

Brian Raymond James Singer. Yes. Statistically, he's the... How many times do I got to say it? But you want me to say more? You want me to glaze more? No, no. You want me to glaze more?

That ain't enough. He's this, he's the greatest, he's the best. Listen, he ain't enough. He's this he's a great best Listen he ain't my guys So I'm just giving y'all credit for what y'all put him this cool, but I'm where I guys don't even in conversation So we don't even talk about my guys so cool So you can have your guy but that's what stop talking to me like I'm supposed to stop doing some see happy because you like him So much. Hey, man, what are you gonna hate on him? So much you know how many you know how many replies I got You glaze on them listen if you glazed and I'm hey and you might bite him stop

That's why I respect my house. But how's he glazing if he's just talking about like the facts of his career? Like how am I hating if I don't like it? I didn't you don't like the fact I didn't say that I didn't I mean you just don't I'm asking you how if he's praising and I'm hate how What's the difference? So you wanna praise the nigga I'm like, I don't think he's there to pray this mr. Cemetery. They're a hater. We asked the chat Is it obvious? 77% say yes. No, they didn't. 77% say it's obvious. No, they didn't.

He got more LeBron jerseys than we do combined. I got one. I have a Luka jersey. Well, I converted this here. I had to convert it to Luka. I got a Ronnie James jersey. I have a Ronnie James. I have baby jerseys, as you guys know, who watch playback.

In my weight room, what three people do I have a brownie dress. I have baby jerseys as you guys know who watch playback like him know in my weight room What three people do I have? There you go who's in the middle Jordan you also have Jordan shorts of which you may or may not have started got the whole warm-up Carmelo Anthony and I have LeBron James on my wall in the middle of my theater LeBron James Carmelo Anthony this is a Autograph LeBron James personalized. How could I hate it says to shot on you? Oh, it says to Rashad la familia

So that would imply that you guys are family. Why would I hate him? Right? I know you do. But if I don't like his game... If I don't like his game, I... Now I'm hating because I don't like his game. Because I think Carmelo Anthony's better. I'm a hater. Oh, hey, how could Carmelo be better?

Come on, it's my opinion. It's my opinion. Now you're telling me I can't have an opinion, which is weird. This is the base shot. I like Godfather 2 much more than I like Godfather 1. Exactly. It's a better film. I like Back to the Future 2 as well, but that's just...

I like Friday After Next. I'm futuristic. I'm futuristic. So you got two jerseys on your wall, that's it? Yeah, right now. No Kobe? No, I don't have the Kobe up right now. No AI?

Nope. You ain't been to my crib yet, Gil. You're not a real friend. No Michael Jordan? Not a real friend. I did see the video of your crib. It looked very phenomenal. Not a real friend.

Come to my crib and see my crib so you can now have this conversation without guessing. You just told no Michael Jordan? No Michael Jordan, no none of them. That's not his favorite. I got autographed shit from Kobe that I don't need to do that shit with. The nigga I hate, that's the first person I put up. First person? No, Mello was the first.

Mello was first. He was second. He never going to get first. So number two. What the fuck is wrong with this nigga? Hey, man. Hey. I ain't never seen somebody fight for somebody else

so hard in my life. Do you want to ask a question? Is the Carmelo jersey signed? No, it's not. And when was the LeBron jersey signed, if you remember? Hold on, but what jerseys are there from Melo and? Cleveland. Yeah, and then Melo.

And then Melo and Cleveland joint. Shout out to him. And then Melo's is? Melo's is bought. I bought Melello's. I know, is it Denver or? Denver. 15, great number.

I wanted it in New York, but couldn't find it. Projective day in the arena. We done? I said, what we doing? We done? We still doing the show, man. We were talking. This will be the third attempt now in my merely hosting duties

to talk about the Timberwolves Thunder game and with the janky calf coming through the big block. If you never knew what Larry looked like, go play Mortal Kombat. I need to find somebody to hate. Go play Mortal Kombat. You have a band you're hating 20-25. He has a finishing move that's incredible. I got a Doc Rivers jersey. I got a Doc Rivers jersey.

I got a Doc Rivers jersey. A Hawks? Hawks. I'll get you a Doc Rivers Clippers jersey as well, just to add to your collection. I don't know. Mark them. See, I've got a fine one. Kyle Cobra did catch shots on the show recently.

But we're talking about, if we can, for all those in the chat who are watching, Emeril's coming back from down 25, tied for the largest comeback franchise history. Who? Thunder, imploding. Up 16, four minutes to go in the fourth quarter. What is your question?

Honestly, at this point, Gil, I'm just watching y'all. I just want to send a message to OKC. Like, the fact that it's the second half of the season and the way guys are playing, do you think that was a a message to OKC. Like, the fact that it's the second half of the season and the way guys are playing, do you think that was a message game to OKC? A message to what? You mean to come back and win the game? No, that this is the team we can see.

Did you watch what happened, though? You watched what happened? And if I'm watching that game, if I'm the Lakers, I like what I just saw because that's what the Lakers can see. What you see, Brandon? What you see out there? OKC ain't ready. I don't know.

Yeah, they've never been. Like, they're not ready yet. They're not. Talk to me. Talk to me. What? I'm going to tell you what I've seen and what you see. They're just not ready.

They're not there mentally yet. They need another year or two. Okay. Without Chet, they definitely have no hope. From this current topic that we're in. You guys are in a great position already. I know. By the way.

And I want to apologize to JJ because I wasn't familiar with your game like that. But the way you've been coaching, I'm sorry. I'm going to just let, yeah. Lakers talk was not in the rundown today. I'm sorry. Yeah, the Lakers. It's on free will. Listen, after that Denver game that we saw in that playback, listen. I'm going to just let, yeah. Lakers talk was not in the rundown today. I'm sorry. Yeah, the Lakers. It's on free will. Listen, after that Denver game that we saw in that playback, listen,

I'm going to be honest with you. You were watching the Denver game with us. The energy. I couldn't make that game, unfortunately, but I did watch you guys on playback watching the Lakers-Nuggets game. I remember J.J. played for the Stan Van Gundy, so the preparation and everything, I get it now. Didn't sleep?

So, yeah, I'm off the J.J. like, hey, like, he, yeah, y'all go ahead. He get it now. So yeah, I'm off the JJ like, hey, like he yeah, y'all go ahead. He didn't sleep. I'm dead serious. You need to, yeah, pay attention. But back to the Thunder Timberwolves. Look at my face switching. I'm telling you, alright. My face is switching as a result of your face switching.

Okay, I mean, I'll just say at least what I've seen third quarter, probably seen, third quarter, probably end of third quarter, they were up 22 maybe. I'm thinking that they're about to empty the bench because I think Minnesota had put their subs in. Top of the fourth, still up 20, majority up until about seven minutes left. Shea and them played that whole stretch. That whole stretch, like from the third all the way through.

Trying to, I imagine, finish them so they could rest the rest of the game. It was already finished. So when they're still in the game and they've already thrown the towel, their bench players start to come back. Like Gil used to talk about when he's going to game and turn the game around, put the starters back in, give them a chance. Shout out Terrence Shannon Jr. And then you look at young boy Dillingham was balling.

Clark was balling. All them, they was balling. That's why they didn't put Ant-Man back in. But what I seen was the coach allowing those guys to stay in the game, those starters, try to pat their motherfucking stats, and then get out of there with a big win. And it fucking backfired on them. They got tired down the stretch,

and Shea could not finish and do none of the shit he was doing in the third because he didn't have no fucking rest. But that's why I think they're done, because he's playing for MVP. And they're not playing to win a championship. They're not there yet. Can they both? It's possible, though. Can he be playing to get that MVP, but playing at a high level

and the team be playing at a high level? Not right now, because he's still... What just happened? He's focused on MVP. That's what it's about. He's going to get his MVP, and then the playoffs come, spanked. Uh-uh. No?

Good here. You don't think they get spanked in the playoffs? OKC? No. Shea came back at the eight-minute mark. Eight in the third? In the fourth. So he subbed out at the top of the fourth?

Mm-hmm. So he did, what, four minutes? Four minutes. They cut the lead. It was still up 20 when he came back in. It was 121 to 109. 94. Let me see.

94. Yeah, because they had to call a timeout. 116. 94 to 111. Then they push it back up to 18. That was what, 116 to like 198? 196 to 114. Yeah.

196 to 114. At that point, I thought they was going to sub guys out. At the six-minute mark, they pushed back up to 19. It was a four-minute mark when they started losing it. Yeah, it started going downhill. Yeah. They were up 16. So right before the four-minute mark, I was looking up like,

yeah, I can't believe y'all still in the game. What y'all still in the game for? Then they started coming back. Then the dead ass, you would have shot out J.B. 16-0, 16-0 run. To close the game out, send it to overtime. I just like, they got tired. They got tired.

You could have took those people out at any time within those first seven minutes. And they would have gave up. The other team, Minnesota would have thrown the towel. You wouldn't even have to worry about that comeback. I just like it for minnesota's confidence second unit i like that too it's the time it's that time of the year man second second half of the season you need all these wins and everybody to play in big moments and see what they got timberwood's

currently seventh in the west right now tied with the maps they needed that 27 they needed that that could be a first round that was a big win confidence because they're number one exactly every game matter now we're trying to get that 8-7 spot seed. Man, we need all these. We can see this team again. Yeah. Facts. A minute 20, a minute 24, you're up seven still.

What? The game is over. A minute what? A minute 24. Oh, that's bad management. Yeah. But Shea was turning the ball over. Because what am I trying to do?

I'm trying to be the guy. They played a match-up zone. Did you see the... I don't know if y'all watched it, but they played... Minnesota was playing a match-up zone that was cold. Like a 1-3-1. And they kept throwing it to Caruso and letting him make the play and he wasn't making the plays.

He ain't done. But that was the reason that I said, OK, see, he's just not ready yet, because they are amazing when Shea's amazing. And he was amazing last night, too, with them. He's getting to the foul. But when you take him out of the game, they actually don't have another.

No. Jalen Williams? Yes. You're not ready yet In a sense of saying all right I'm gonna put this shit on my back and I'm gonna carry us if he goes down like right now you are Robin But you know Robin at first. Yeah, you just got here Why not even be a robber But that's what I'm saying. So you're not there yet if he goes down. So for you to win series and get to the championship and be favored,

you will have to play 22 games excellent. Yes. And your steal might be like, ah, you don't have it. You can't have a fall. Yeah. And you're all too young. It showed the youngness here. Yeah Against the young team and we thought check coming back would change

Some of the doctor but he's still young too. You know, I have no experience. Oh, yeah. So how old is SGA? He's 26 So he's 26. Everybody else is inconsistent and it's not gonna get any easier The more years ago so no for him him 28, everybody else about 25, 24, then that's when they're going to be dangerous. Here, you're still just, you're Boston two years ago. Yeah. And he don't know how to. Just little things, it's like, ah, we don't know how to win. And think about what he's saying as far as SGA's leadership.

If he has the bad game in the playoffs, and everybody else looking around like, so what do we do now? What do we do, boss? That's what I'm saying. It's going to be like that for a couple years. It's going to be like that for years over there. Because nobody's going to be that. You don't have that Jalen Brown over there.

You don't have the Jalen Brown last year. You have the Jalen Brown 2022, 2021. You're waiting for him. We know who he Yeah. You're waiting for... We know who he is. We're waiting for our number two. Is it Chet? Is it Jalen? Which one are you going to be

so consistent where we're seeing who's the best player here? Yeah. Like right now, we need to... We'll know when they're ready when the media has the argument

of who should be traded. That's what I'm saying. When that happens, that's when you're going to... That's going to come. All right. Now you got two stars now. Let's see what y saying. When that happens, that's when you're black. It's going to come. All right. SGA. Now you got two stars now.

Let's see what y'all going to do. Because the narrative always comes, and we're going to pick it up. Because I'm ready to... I'm thinking move SGA in a couple years after this MVP. Like, after this MVP, you get that? Boom, boom, boom. I'm out of here. But then you got... Who do you build

around if he leaves? Nah He ain't leaving at a smart He gonna get the three he gonna get that three he going for that big going he going for the big I'm saying I could just walk in there and be like yeah need that Mac. I'm not giving no for person. I got a hose to pay We cannot confirm or deny that We stand now, you know what he plays like he's tied down. Yes. Oh, he's tied down? You know what? He plays like he's tied down. Yes. He has a boo. No, what I'm saying,

we know motherfuckers who's reckless and who... You can tell. He plays like he good at home. Yep. Shout out to FGA. It's all, yeah, slow, cool, chill.

Ah, ain't got nothing to prove. She know what it is. She know what it is. Just like your kids. You know, got the ring right here. It's my baby. That's right here. That's my baby. That's my baby. That's my baby.

You know what a motherfucker got. Full baby mamas in the stands stressing a motherfucker. Man. Shit. Man. Eyes closed. Man. See, that bag.

Shit. This motherfucker's stressing out. Playing hard as hell. I want to give a shout out to SGA and a shout out to his pops. Met them both at the Converse party, All-Star weekend. Very good people. Shout-out to his new shoes, too. It was fine.

New shoes, very fine. Shout-out to Converse. Yeah, new shoes, all right. Shout-out to Converse. No stress at the door. I had a couple extra people with me. They let me right in. God bless you, God.

I feel like he should have did white. I got to holler at Stelly. It's different. It's just the All-Star color? Might be just the All-Star. He was wearing them last night. I think that's the one he coming out with. That's the one color he's wearing right now. Yeah, it's crazy. I that just the all-star color? Maybe just the all-star. Ah, he was wearing them last night. I think that's the one he coming out with. That's the one color way right now.

Yeah, it's crazy. Because I can't wear that. I mean, you got a hoop in them. Okay. Don't mean to be, you know, knocking nothing on the shoe. Just strategy-wise. The rest of the world

is not going to wear that color as a main shoe just going out in public, right? That's not, like, you can't wear that with every color. So, you know, he should have had at least a white version. White, all white. Or a black with some little, like, something that just I can wear every day. And be like, I got the new SGA's on. They're cold. They're all white. Or a black with some little, like something that just I can wear every day. And be like, I got the new SGA's on, they're cold, they're all white. And then that's like a specialty off color

that's in the store too, so I think they should've just for the masses. Cause I, if I can't wear them, I ain't really trying to buy them. If I can wear them, like I'll go buy the Ant-Man's, I'll go buy the Jason Tatum's and the Jalen, I'll go buy them if they all purpose, I'll go buy the Jason Tatum's and the Jalen Brown's. I'll go buy them if they're all-purpose.

You got to have the all-purpose colors. Yeah, all that. They're green and all that shit. Well, speaking of all-purpose. They look cool, man. They're solid. It look like him. It looks smooth.

He wearing my outfit. It's just not my color, but I love the way the shoe look. It's dope. Speaking of all-purpose, let's shift it over to the G League. Bronny James heating up after another strong showing in the G League this past weekend. Dropped 24 points in a win Saturday for the South Bay Lakers against the Suns G League affiliate, the Valley Suns. Bronny's dropped 20 or more in four out of six G League games. Can I get my napkin?

I forgot my bib. I forgot my drool. Glaze is coming Extra glaze Real warm It's real warm right now Some preemptive glazing The hot light is on baby All I heard was Ronnie who?

James? Not speaking about LeBron We're talking about LeBron If you're going to prepare I'm going to prepare Not speaking about LeBron Merely talking about Bronny His namesake

And the work that he's doing In the G League So Bronny's dropped 20 or, and the work that he's doing in the G League. So Bronny's dropped 20 or more in four out of six G League games this season, G League regular season, posting averages of 23 points, five rebounds, five assists on 46-43-79 shooting splits in his six G League regular season games. Bronny was asked about going to his mid-range a little more in recent G League appearances, and here's what he had to say. He was mainly trying to get downhill, get in the paint, draw some fouls.

So, you know, I could open up my jump shot, get some form shots under me. But, you know, I just take them with the defense, get them. I wasn't able to get all the way to the paint sometimes, so I've got to settle for the middie. So, you know, I just feel like I can score at all three levels. So, just trying to, you know, take everything that's open. Okay, Bronny. Getting much better with his media obligations. Gil, I'll start with you.

What do you make of Bronny's growing confidence in the G League this season? You think you slick, motherfucker. You a funny motherfucker. I like that. I saw that. I'm sorry with Gilbert. I'm going to be honest.

I, you know, just from just being around basketball and being in the NBA and watching confidence come and go, watching him since, you know, middle school, high school, even college, watching how he started off. As much as I was supporting, if you ask me how much he averaged, I was five. I got him at five this year. You know what I mean? Even when I said, I'm going to go see his game. I'm going to go see my five points. I didn't think that

he would be this aggressive early in his career. There was no evidence through his playing career that would have showed him just saying, fuck all this, I'm going to take my 15 to 20 shots. He's never done that at any level.

The bones of his game, fast, jump, can shoot, can make plays, right? But he was so docile that you didn't know what he really was, but you can see that, okay, like you can see his movement. I didn't personally think that this type of play I Thought that'd be three three years from now. Well, that's because you know what happened

Well, that's because he's not in college playing against his the level of competition. No It's the pressure it's the bro first of all, I'm I'm drafted right I asked for this and this is what I wanted So now I'm gonna go out there and prove it. It's a challenge for him Like it's a challenge for him. Like, it's a different type of challenge when you're playing against a grown man instead of against... Can we be honest? It's different. It's the criticism. When you get criticized, you are forced to change the critic's mind.

Ronnie hear it. He hear people say, you can't do this. This is the point that people don't understand my energy is for. I want to challenge you. Hey, listen, they say you're not ready and I think you should have stayed another year in college because right now at this time you would be incredible as a college player.

But listen, you took a different route. Great. But the criticism that you're hearing now in this route has forced you to be more aggressive because now you have an opportunity to prove them wrong earlier than you did if you took the other route so i commend him for doing what he's doing i just never heard him speak before i didn't know he sounded like he played golf i just never saw i never eloquent so now that i know his mannerisms and you can see his confidence is getting there.

Because of what he's around. I'm telling y'all. It's because he gets reps. He gets to play the game. And when you get to continue to play, you find the confidence in the critics. Because if you're not getting criticized, you ain't got no reason to go out there and try to get. He's been getting criticized since high school. Exactly. He's been getting criticized since high school.

So right now, it ain't this type of critic. It's been worse. No, it ain't. Man, he was getting killed for being in the McDonald's. No criticized since high school. Exactly. He's been getting criticized since high school. So right now, it ain't this type of criticism. It's been worse. No, it ain't. Man, he was getting killed for being in the McDonald's. No, it ain't. He's been getting killed since he even played basketball. But that's the route he took. He's going to get killed because there's nepotism in it.

Right? So take the nepotism out and you allow Brownie to be who he is. He shows you like that. He's showing you right now. I never doubted that he could be this type of player. No, I got it just is the route you take is gonna be contingent on how much pressure you can handle only pressure on him because Who is that is no, but it's still pressure But no, but it didn't it would be no pressure at all if it was what people's been saying

They've been saying that this whole time Pressure doesn't have him Disaggressive. No, no. Like, you're talking about a guy who played freshman year, averaged three. Sophomore year, probably averaged, I think he got hurt. But his senior year, he averaged 12, 13 points.

You're talking about in high school? High school, right? AAU, he never was dropping 30, 40 points, right? Collegeaged three four six I think right how he looked at the beginning of the year soon as he got the ball pass it right not looking like dribbling to make passes this is a whole different mindset and I want to know what happened in a game or a practice. Coach said, you got the green light. You got the green light. It's what he's around.

Man, I remember asking KD this. I said, what was the play that made you say, I'm here? This man said, I was playing what's-her-name. I did a spin move, Western Aim. Did a 360 and went up and under the basket and hit it. Oh, what's that moment? Yeah, what was his moment? There was a moment that we missed.

I don't know if it was a practice, a game. I don't know if him and Oliveri had been going at it and he got the best of them. There's something that made him become this. We all have had it. There was a moment that you did something and he was like, oh shit. These motherfuckers ain't

like that. But here's the difference. This is what I'm saying. The moments y'all talk about, I agree. But those moments are down here. He's not going to translate that moment you talk about on the NBA level right now where you're going to be like, look, Bronny, look. He look comfortable out there this year. Right?

So what I'm saying is the comfort level and the aggression that you're seeing is, look, Bronny, the criticism that you're getting is because they don't think you're ready. They don't think you're ready. They don't think you're ready. But if you show this aggression that you can play this level against your peers that you would have been playing against in college, you show you can dominate them, we ain't questioning whether you're ready or not.

Now you have to perform. Now you got to hit your shots. Now you got to play defense. It ain't got nothing to do with us saying, oh, you're not ready. It's got everything to do with you now proving it. So I think criticism sets the stage for people to accept the challenge. Jason Tatum accepted your challenge.

I accept your challenge. Thinking I'm the softest nigga in the league? Bet. Bet. So when I win this shit, Brandon better hide. So you don't think Bronny's been criticized since high school, though? Not at this level. Yes, it has been.

No, it's not. He wasn't nobody to be criticized. Yes, he was. He's a McDonald's All-American. He barely got it. He barely got in. He's a McDonald's All-American. Why did he get in? Why did he get in? The reality or narrative? We know both. We know both.

We know both. Then what is the narrative? The narrative is because it's dad. Okay, so reality is this. He was ranked 30. What was he at, 32? He was ranked 32, so you only take the top 24. The difference between when y'all played in the McDonald's,

here they have them alternative schools, right? Those alternative schools don't play in it like so I didn't I went to one of them school I went to a boarding school no after we wasn't in the national rank is another no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no Yeah, so the Kanye school those guys so there was about There was 10 kids there's this cool that needed that could have been in this no that's what it so he was 32 There was 10 kids that couldn't play so Rob Dylan him was ranked top five He couldn't play in the game because he went to Donda So what ends up happening brawny 34 35 and those guys actually made it. No, for sure. So it was about 10 guys all who made it. That happened in our shit. It's like if you have a guy in a region that's okay, he going to, like Elijah Ingram was in New Jersey, he ended up getting it.

He wasn't that big of a player, but he was dope in Jersey. So it's like your region, if you're the dopest, you get it. But sometimes the coach that's coaching, he's going to bring one of his players. That's a fact. But then you can't leave Bronny off if Bronny is doing enough to make it enough to just get on. So then you're going to leave one of the biggest names in high school out? I just think his game was meant to be in a professional setting more than college or high school. I think what he's been around

is going to help him mentally and his IQ-wise and just being ready. Like, look who's around every day, bro. Only a few people can... I can't say you can't skip the steps.

I'm saying only a few people can skip the step and go back and learn the foundations of it and still thrive. If he can go back and learn foundations with skipping the steps, I would... You ever been to a public pool

and you see, like, a 10- or 12-year-old in the pool with floaties on? Yeah. Right? And you be saying... Bitch, you can stand up! Like, you know what I mean, you can stand up. Like, you know what I mean? You can actually stand the fuck up, man.

The fuck is wrong with you, dawg? Like, that's what it's been this whole time. And he be chubby, too. In high school. He's saying, so he's in the pool with the floaties. He don't need them on. Chubby as hell, too, with the goggles. In high school, he's had the floaties on to protect him this whole time.

And for the first time, once he got to the G League, everybody laughing at the floaties. Yeah. He's like, oh, okay, let me take them off. Like fourth. Oh, I can't. Oh, I can swear. I've been tripping the whole time. Splat, splat.

That's what it is. Like fourth up with the legs. Sometimes. Start breaking. You hold on. You try to protect the person so much you're handicapping them. Yeah. And that's what it is.

You know, the water's only four feet deep. Yeah, there's only four feet, motherfucker. Who's handicapped? You're not drowning. You got all this over the water. He was being handicapped and protected when he should have been out there fighting for survival. And in the G League, they're all fighting for survival

So he has to adapt the death and it looks like He has it looks good because he's getting Man when I say to people thought I was stupid I was like man y'all don't understand when when you got a dude and I looked I just listened to Quincy say one thing It was a senior year and they're talking about the record and who he is. And he says, why are you the first one, you know, in the line drills and going so hard? I said, man, I got to set an example for them. And I don't want them to look at me.

When they look at me, they know he's going to go hard, so I'm forced to go hard. And I said, that's the person person that is gonna break him or make him Because if he's going against a kid that thinks like this You have no day off ever He's gonna he's gonna try to whoop your ass every single day one because you're Brian a yes Yes, three you're on this team motherfucker. So they're gonna be paying you and playing you before me So I got I to break you. You just got a new shoe.

Shit. What's how you get that? He look like the one that'll step on your motherfucker. And that's what be missing sometimes in these kids' development. You be missing the wolf. And sometimes if you get to the NBA, if you've never faced a wolf and you face it. He's with the wolf.

He's like, I'm good. I don't want to play. And the good thing about this now is that he's not one running home knocking on the door like, oh, there's a wolf outside. Yeah. Right? Maybe he was a little afraid at first, like, damn, that's a fucking wolf. Now he's like, what the fuck you want, man?

Mm-hmm. What's up? I'm about to hear my change. You need something? Mm-hmm. Right? And now, at this point, like I said, the confidence starts to grow. He's going to start to chase the wolf.

Like, hey, come over here. Come here. He has a long career. Even his game, even the game he played where he actually played eight straight minutes had nine points. Right? So his confidence is there. We ain't blowing anybody out for him to get in the game. It's been unfortunate.

Because at some point, just like when we seen Austin Reeves, right? You went from, man, to like, oh shit, Austin's. To oh shit. Like Christie. Right? That was a, they got a steal with him. He knows how to play though. Right?

You're looking at the young kid like, oh, he got his confidence. Right? It comes with time, going out there, making mistakes, and realizing, like, when you're getting one, two minutes, been sitting there, man, it's still fear. Absolutely. It's still fear. Like, people are like, oh, he got 28 minutes. It's like, those ain't 28 straight minutes, goddammit.

Those are one minute here, 20 seconds here. Man. That shit is fear. You've been here. Man, that's the worst, man. That shit is fury. You've been sitting there the whole time. Now you gotta get going. Please don't call my name. Bro, I swear to god. Shit, damn.

Right now? Right now? Now, shit. Oh, you know when a nigga just like, oh my god. Like, yo. Because you don't have like. Come down. I'll be ready tonight.

You ready. Your hands start getting cold and shit. You like. People don't realize how impressive. I'm nervous. I'm nervous. Your hands start getting cold and shit. People don't realize how impressive it is for players to just come in like that and be instant offense. A hundred percent. Both of you have experienced that, and I did in college as well.

I'm just saying, when you first got to the league, how hard is it to sit there for about two hours, two hours, 15 minutes? People don't understand. You get that warm-up at halftime, maybe a light one, but then you sit another 45, 50 minutes, legs start to atrophy, then you got to go in the game. You don't even warm up at halftime. No. You don't even go back at halftime to warm up. And people don't understand that.

I try to get my workout before the layup line, and me and him, we going one-on-one. We doing... But when you do get the opportunity, it's like the mentality you have to have, even knowing you might not play, you might get a minute or two minutes. If you're not locked in and say, when they look my way, I'm going to jump up. I'm going to take these pants off and I'm going to smile and I'm going to check in and I'm going to calculate.

How many minutes? OK, how many points can I get in these minutes? Who am I passing to out here? Nobody. I'm about to go crazy now if you don't have that mentality you have a mentality of And what the fuck you throw me in the game with two minutes left for man what the fuck I'm more than my mentor I'm saying so now it goes from positive. I see what I could do with this opportunity to negative What the fuck I'm supposed to do with this opportunity say you're saying enough time. You got a sprint to the score

Is that what I'm saying? You got to sprint to the score, establish, try to get warm. You got two minutes to be instant, right? And unless you prepared for, like, you know what I mean? Like, okay, we down 20. He going to put me in. Let me, hey, heat pack, heat pack.

And you start putting the heat packs on your shit like that. That's different, though, because you know. You know. But for the most part, you being that bitch,

yeah, you already, you checked that. You done untied your shoes and shit. Don don't untie just usually don't even have your Autotic Any call your name you like over there eating starburst knowledge ordering food for Like really how many games as you play a ball boy come here Now you sit there looking no you got this worse when one of them young niggas got the state she just Oh, I beat up all them they're on the best. Oh my god Playing over me

17 NBA got four turnovers about to sell my to tell my agent. His last NBA action, Gil, you mentioned that eight-minute, nine-point career. My shit was rough, and you know, like when you a rookie

trying to get your first basket, that's stressful. Yo, listen, when you hurt and you at the end of the bench, you hear everybody complain. Oh, yeah. It's the worst.

When you hurt, and you hurt, and you be like, you be like, God damn, ain't no wonder why I don't sit back. Y'all niggas be talking.

Y'all nimble, you ain't.as be talking shit. Y'all nimble. You ain't. They be talking shit. That's my eighth night tip. I sat behind the bench, and I was listening to all that shit. Bro, you hear everything, right? I said, yo, you don't like it? I didn't know y'all didn't like each other.

And this is, and this is, fuck this nigga. Dog, this is why when people talk about, like, winning, winning, what's the name, teams and shit. Oh, yeah. Do y'all know what a bench sounds like? A bench sounds crazy. You could be right. Listen, OKC's number one, right? Uh-huh.

You only see the same four, five motherfuckers up there. There's 15 players on that team. What are the other motherfuckers? Damn, I'm not fucking around with that. Fuck them niggas over there getting all that shine and shit. They could have got a nigga three minutes a day. You got that on the bench, dawg. I've been here since 3.

I've been here since. And they been there since 3 PM? Yeah. Everybody thinks they should be getting more minutes. Oh, for sure. More shots from the number one team to the last. The difference is that the better players on this team got more control.

The worst teams, there's no heads. Fan for yourself. Like, let's say, Blazers. All fighting for who's going to be next. Nobody knows nothing. You got 15? I'm looking at your girl. It's all type of...

That's how it was in Minnesota. It was big out, but it was like... Big out, you got your money. It's time for us to get our money, too. If you're the last three teams, you're the last three teams in the NBA, good luck. They all talking. Like, if you got five, if you got four to six players

on a team that are locked in, you are good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's not 15 players locked in. There's not fucking 15 players locked in, you are good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's not 15 players locked in. There's not fucking 15 players locked in to win a championship. My contract coming up, bitch, I'm getting three minutes. I am not. Like, I'm going to be off the league if I can't crack this lineup. Yeah.

Remember what Jeff Teague said? Jeff Teague was like, man, what the fuck? God damn, I picked the wrong motherfucking team. This motherfucker tries like that. Man. Marco Yard, niggas sitting there with them. If you got four to six players locked the fuck in, you're good. Marco had expensive work.

Shout out Marco Yard. But let's move on to Mostly Fans. Presented by Underdog. Download that through promo code GIL. Get up to $1,000 in bonus cash plus a special pick-em. So this Mostly Fans question related to the topic we were just talking about is from Underdog user BornToCash. He asked, if only five to six teams are trying to win a championship each year,

can you really blame the players for not playing as hard or not really caring if the organizations don't care? What was the question? When you say the players don't play hard, what players don't play hard? So we had Boogie on yesterday. Boogie said about six teams care. You kind of said the same thing. So if only five to six teams are trying to win a championship each year,

can you really blame the players for not playing as hard or not really caring if the organizations don't care? Blaming? No, okay. You get paid to play hard. That's what you get paid off of but i've regardless of the organization i've never heard a complaint about the the those games being played hard those players like it's still like it's still your legacy first if you are if you happen to get in the position

to win a championship Then cool, but you still gotta run your race like when a motherfucker say go You have to still be prepared to run this race. What's in it like you you know to me? Oh, like if they started adding other motherfucking dogs with you to run to help you like oh shit Hey, welcome to the deal. Yeah, let's go. But for the most part you're being judged off of how you are preparing. Yeah, so If they don't want to win that really you know you hold that all you can control is are you in shape? Are you going out again behind 10% and you hope somebody else see it? No, no, because think about organizations. Okay, similar to schools. If you in a school that's used to winning They gonna dump that alumni money in there. You're gonna be flying right? Living right paying you good

But if you're an organization that don't win not used to winning they don't even know what the investment into winning looks like You're just stuck in a situation where they don't even want to win because they never they don't have the energy But then them top six teams you look around you like you go play Dallas and you like look how they treat it Look, they got to spread and the TVs and the lockers and shit What and then you see they in the playoffs every year. Certain teams get certain treatment because they're the top six teams, and they want to win. But that's your owner, though, right?

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Ownership and all that. So the other organizations, like, the question is, it's like, should the players care if the fucking organization don't? I care. I knew Minnesota wasn't a winning place, but I was hoping that we could change the energy.

But you can't just do that with one role player. And, you know, KG wanted to win. I ain't saying he didn't, but it's like with a graveyard situation, it's hard to get the owner to understand you need to spend money in these places to make us a better team. And that's what makes, that's what, that's what is so confusing with the business of basketball itself. That you guys are billionaires in the top of the top and you guys don't have the same information?

No, because, I mean, because I didn't buy the team to get there. I bought the team because it's a hobby or I'm trying to be famous or I'm trying to get my other business. But, true, you remember when Kenya Martin said he was on a team and Al Jefferson, or Al Harrington came to the team and said, where's pregame? Yeah. And he was like, what's that? We don't have no pregame here. What does it mean said, where's pregame? Yeah. And he was like, what's that?

We don't have no pregame here. What do you mean you don't have pregame? No, everybody has pregame. We don't have pregame. This is a winning team. Oh, pregame. Pregame meal and... And then, like...

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can't remember. Like the college. You know, college is... Pregame meal. Pregame meal is where you have to shoot around. Yeah, yeah. He was like, yo, where. Pre-game meals. Pre-game meals where you, you know, have to shoot around. Shoot around. Yeah, yeah. He was like, yo, where's the pre-game?

Where we go? Which floor? And he was like, we don't know. We order our own food. I was like, no, hell no. Because he was used to that where he came from, Indiana, right? That's what they did there. Now you're talking about Denver.

They're winning games. They don't have this. When I went to Orlando, like, we... And... Orlando off the chain. And Wizards, right? Wizards was different than Golden State. The things that I was hearing about,

oh, they got a chef. Can we get a chef? Can we do this? Right? I'm thinking, we luxurious. I go to Orlando. The fuck is this? It's off the chain.

It's off the chain in Orlando. Like, I mean, like, taking the blood, what you can eat. Like, okay, you can't eat this, you can't eat that. Like, they're fine-tuning, and it's like... How is it so... It's really like Beverly Hills and fucking Watts. There's NBA teams that's considered Watts. Yes.

Seriously. 100,000. A fine city. And they got motherfuckers on there making $200,000, $300,000, but the structure of it is Watts. They can't go outside. No, for sure. That's a fact. Yeah.

And you're sitting there like. But some people care about their teams, and some people, this is just a hobby, though. Some of them are just clueless, too. You can tell. But I'm making bread either way. That's what I'm saying. But as a player, think about it like this. I'm from the organization.

Think about it like this. All right, let's go back to the early 90s, right? Shit, shit, mid-2000s, before fucking Blake Griffin. Clippers, right? Where did they practice? At the... Mindguard YMCA. At the YMCA, yeah.

Nail on the wall, the hangers... El Segundo. The El Segundo shit. No, I'll be back in there when my dad was playing for me. YMCA. No, before Blake Griffin. So YMCA in the hood. What time did the building close? Right? 11? 10.

Which means, as an NBA player, you cannot go to a facility to get extra shots to better yourself. You have to wait on this establishment to open. Open 8 o'clock, right? Whatever. While the rest of the NBA has a key card. Can go two, three. Any time of the NBA has a key card. Doom, doom, doom. Can go two, three. Any time of the day. So every Clipper

was at such a disadvantage on just getting better as a player. You might have to share the court too. Think about that. That is insane to think how the Clippers have been bad

and they had to outsource going to go get better. I had to go find a gym. I had to go find a gym. I had to go find a 24-hour fitness. Like I just went, yes, I'm trying to go shoot because we talk. Nowhere to fucking shoot. We need a new owner. Got to get off the court.

They got Pilates classes. They got Pilates at fucking six. So there was no. Pilates at six. Imagine Pilates at six. Y'all got to get off. Y'all got to get out of here. There's.

So. I make them do it. So there's no greats going to come from that establishment because you don't have no structure to help him get to that level. That's facts. And, you know, every NBA franchise is not built. It should be a requirement. It should be a requirement to have all those things.

To own a team, you got to do this and this. Yes, to have it available for the player. If you want to buy a team, you got to be this and this. Yes. To have it available for the player. If you want to buy a team, you got to be this and this and these are the steps. That's Mark Cuban shit, though. I think that's the type of shit Mark Cuban would initiate.

He's like, no, my guys got this and that's why we always like this because we provide the best. He did change the environment inside of locker rooms, like having PlayStations and having actually some shit. We walk in there like, oh, like, having PlayStations and having actually some shit,

like, we walk in there like, oh, shit, this is y'alls? Miami Heat. Yeah, Miami Heat. Stuff to make you want to stay in the gym. Yeah. And I went in they locker room, I said, oh, my Lord.

Y'all locker room? Shit. Well, that's a good place for us to stop, but before we finish the show, we appreciate all the love for Gil's Arena. Like we've been saying, we're on a mission to get to one million. I mean, one gillion subscribers. Gil's Arena YouTube currently at 926,000 subscribers.

Let's go. I'm not impressed. I'm not impressed either, honestly, Gil. Hey, Brian. I'm not impressed. I love to hate you, brother. You will see LeBron tonight. I love to hate you, brother. You will see LeBron tonight. I love to hate you, brother.

You will see LeBron tonight. He's doing your thing. He's going to be in there with his bronze jersey booing. He's doing your thing. Lakers win by 20 tonight. We will be at the Lakers game tonight. Pull up on us if you're in the suite area. You got to search around and hunt for us, though.

Be on the lookout for the dessert cart, too. Hopefully it makes you stop. I don't care if they win and lose. I just want Luka to just ask T-Man. I need it makes it stop. I don't care if they win and lose. I just want Luca to just... I need him to play bad. I need him to play bad. I know he's going to play good. No, but as teammates, right,

you be wanting this for your teammates. That's when you know you got... The teammates fuck with you like, like, yeah, I got your dog. Don't even worry about it. You know what I mean? My homie was trying to tell... He's trying to convince me Luca's going to have a bad game.

I said, listen, man. Shit. Luka see them niggas coming in here. And he didn't understand, like, we have the conversation as hoopers when we play against the old team that traded us. Don't ask me no fucking questions tonight.

Don't ask me. Don't ask me shit. You know I'm not passing to you. You know I got 50 tickets, all my people in the stands. We going ham tonight. If he don't shoot 25 So I can tell you this right now if he don't get a minimum of 25 shots thumbs up

JJ brother you getting fired get out of here, but you know that You know that's how petty it is. Don't look at night. Do not love me out Oh, I need a 16 points in the first quarter. Championship. Championship. No, fuck all that. Not tonight. Hey, if I don't do this right here. Not tonight. Hey, listen, if I don't do this right here.

Don't look at me. I don't want to hear it. When I hear. I ain't looking. I'm not looking. There's no reason. I bet not feel this. Hey, you got.

And I got to do one of these. Not tonight. What the fuck you got? Not tonight. I'm looking right at the JJ. The fuck is you doing? And you're going to be, hey, motherfucker,

what you doing tonight? You already know what time it is, man. Well, we will be there to see it. I'm going to give you a minute. No, I don't need no motherfucking minute. All the time out, motherfucker. Don't sub me out.

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