Girls Gone Bible - Breaking From Shame & Comparison | Girls Gone Bible

Episode Date: August 8, 2025

Hiiii GGB!   This week we start with a fun game of Heads Up before diving into a real conversation about faith, breaking free from shame, and letting go of comparison. The enemy loves to keep us stuc...k in guilt and measuring ourselves against others, but Jesus calls us into freedom and reminds us our worth is found in Him alone.   we love you so much. Jesus loves you more. -Ang & Ari   ORDER OUR NEW BOOK! You can order our new book “Out of the Wilderness— 31 Devotions to Walk with God Through Your Hardest Seasons” at girlsgonebible.com/book   JOIN US ON GGB+ 🥹❤️ https://ggb.supportingcast.fm   COME SEE US ON TOUR: Tickets for our tour are now on sale. Go to www.GirlsgoneBible.com/tour September 4, 2025 - Seattle, WA September 5, 2025 - Portland, OR September 19, 2025 - Glenside, PA September 21, 2025 - Dayton, OH October 16, 2025 San Francisco, CA October 25, 2025 Morristown, NJ October 26, 2025 Patchogue, NY November 14, 2025 Atlanta, GA December 6, 2025 Los Angeles, CA   Beam Visit https://shopbeam.com/GGB and use code GGB to get our exclusive discount of up to 35% off.   Ritual Instead of striving for perfect health, aim for supporting foundational health. Get 25% off your first month, only at ritual.com/GGB   Jolie Skin Co. A filtered shower head that reduces impurities to give you healthier skin and hair. Get free shipping at JolieSkinCo.com/GGB.   Grand Canyon University Earn your degree online or on campus with programs designed to fit your life. Enroll today and find your purpose at GCU.edu.   Narwal Vacuum A hands-free way to keep your floors spotless. It vacuums, mops, and cleans itself so you don’t have to. Get the early bird price at US.Narwal.com/Podcast.   Everyday Dose Upgrade your morning routine with Everyday Dose — a mushroom coffee alternative designed to help with focus, energy, and gut health without the crash. Get 45% off your first order at everydaydose.com/GGB with code GGB.   Dose Daily A daily wellness beverage crafted with adaptogenic mushrooms for energy and mental clarity. Save 25% on your first subscription at DoseDaily.co/GGB using code GGB     WE LOVE YOU AND CANNOT WAIT TO SEE YOU!

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Okay. Do I have anything of my tea? Let's see. No. Do I? No. Oh. Well, that's why I didn't get blueberries in my smoothie.
Starting point is 00:00:11 I hope this doesn't say anything bad on it. I can't believe I don't crave coffee anymore all day. You're not having a coffee right now? You are incredible. How? How? You used to drink. Three a day?
Starting point is 00:00:25 Three a day. It's all I thought about. I couldn't wait to go to bed so I could wake up and get a coffee. You'd be. in the middle of a panic attack by five o'clock being like what's wrong and it's like because when you train your body to do something you break it you like you break that addiction a hundred percent oh you do is it smile uh you guys we are going back on tour we are hitting the road again and we cannot wait to meet you face to face
Starting point is 00:01:01 and laugh and cry and pray and worship and just grow together. Last time we were on tour, we were just completely blown away by how powerful it was to gather with you guys in person. The stories, the prayers, the healings, God moved in every single room. And it just reminded us that this isn't just a podcast.
Starting point is 00:01:22 It's a community and a family. Go to Girls Gone Bible slash tour to get your tickets. We love you guys, and we can't wait to be with you. You guys are a book, Out of the Wilderness, 31 Devotions to Walk with God through your hardest seasons. Seeing the stories every single day, how much you guys are relating, how much it's getting you through your tough seasons. You have no idea. It's like the highlight of my mornings when I wake up and see all the stories.
Starting point is 00:01:48 So we just thank you so much for all the support. We are just so blessed that we were able to bleed our hearts out on papers, and you guys can feel seen and know that you, You're not alone in your hard season and know that God's going to get you through it. And it just gives you like a peace and makes you feel less alone. And it just eases that grief that you're going through, doesn't it? So I just, we thank you so much. Get your copy at girlsgonebibble.com slash book. You guys, I just filmed two new episodes on GGB Plus.
Starting point is 00:02:20 And it was like two of my favorite episodes because I get to go deeper. it's more intimate. It's one-on-one. It feels like I'm sitting with my best friends and just talking on the couch, being raw, being open. I don't have to worry about what I say. I can just bleed out and tell you guys everything. And it's just a different vibe on GGB Plus. It's stuff that I can't really talk about on GGB. So me and Angela are just so blessed that we get to have that platform where we can go even deeper with you guys just because you guys are our best friends. And, you know, there's some things we just can't really talk about
Starting point is 00:03:03 on an open platform, but it's nice that we just get to sit down, chill, not really have to think, and just go really deep with you guys. Subscribe now at girlsgonebbb.com slash ggb plus. We can't wait to see you there. I'm Angie. And I'm R. And this is Girls Gone Bible. We are a faith-based project.
Starting point is 00:03:22 We are a faith-based podcast where we talk everything Jesus. We love him. He saved our lives. And now we get to come on here and talk about everything from relationships to mental health. If you guys have been through it, we probably have two. We say, come as you are, just don't stay that way. Let's go. I really love that line because it's so true.
Starting point is 00:03:45 It's so true. Come as you are, just don't stay that way. What's up, Bob? What are you doing? I literally just, I, it's so funny, I just notice this, but I have tickets, tickets. I'm drowning in them. I have tickets as my bookmarks in my Bible. I'm drowning in parking tickets.
Starting point is 00:04:04 You don't know what we go through in California. You don't know what we go through. It is a nightmare. You can't park anywhere. They, they, they, they, they, they're just sharks, they're vultures. They're sharks, dude, they're snakes. I see them and I'm like, I'm like crumbling. I'm like, I mean, yeah, what a job to just ruin people's days.
Starting point is 00:04:25 You know what I mean? You're sad. You got to see me when I get pulled over. I am so sorry, sir. You would think that I murdered someone. Like, I literally slaughtered someone with the way I act. I feel like I'm going to prison. I had to go to court for a cell phone ticket.
Starting point is 00:04:43 My mom goes, you didn't kill a man. I was crying. I thought I was going to. jail. I was shaking in my boots. The court system is the scariest thing. I probably have PTSD from when I was a kid. Yeah, I'd rather, I'd rather not go to court. I'm okay. I also probably have a little bit of... Because I'm locked up, they'll let me out. Yeah, I probably have a little bit of PTSD from childhood too. Oh my gosh, so I went to New York with John and my family. Tell us about the money on the floor with the guns.
Starting point is 00:05:19 So we took John to his first Albanian wedding. He loved it. He did so well. Can't dance to save his life. Who? John. Neither can I. Our kids would be really anointed and horrible dancers.
Starting point is 00:05:34 It was just so, it was so fun. It was so cute. It was so funny. Anybody who's, like, Eastern European or just, like, foreign in any way, American weddings are so different, and I love them. They're just, like, simple, classy, just like, not saying Albanian isn't classy, but they're just, like, simple. Y and C.A. American weddings are super. They're so sweet. And Albanian weddings is like, it's like the Albanian Oscars. Like, it's the Oscars. You better wear your best dress. And it's just crazy. This wedding was 900 people. How do people afford this stuff? I'm having mine in a backyard with some barbecues.
Starting point is 00:06:13 I don't know. I actually don't know. That's so expensive. 900 people. And it's like so extravagant, so luxurious, so grand. And John sits down and like anybody else like this when you really love someone, like especially a man, like you just want to feed them. Like I love watching, like I just love when John eats. I don't know why it makes me so happy. Like I love the idea of him being full. I think when you really love someone, I don't know, just weird things make you happy. And so John was like so hungry. He hadn't eaten all day. There's like the table is full of food. Like there's so much food and it's good, good food.
Starting point is 00:06:51 And it's like, so he like is eating everything. He's getting full because he's like, oh my gosh, I haven't eaten all day. And then the next course comes. And then the next course comes. And it's like a six course meal. And John is like, Angela, I've never seen anything like this. I got full off the first course. And I was like, John, Albanians don't play.
Starting point is 00:07:09 Like they don't play any foreign. Like it's the best food. It's like the best. It's just so grand. And it was really, really special. Wow. And then we went to Nashville and hung out with a few of our friends over there. And you guys aren't going to believe this, but I was with two of my biggest role models in the world. And I don't want them to think I'm creepy, so I don't want to say anything. But I just want you guys to know, I'm thinking so much about prayer recently. And then our pastor preached on just like prayer life yesterday at church. And like so many. of us don't have the things we want because we literally don't ask for them. And like God is so faithful to answer prayers that are in alignment with like what he wants for you. Recently I started
Starting point is 00:07:57 asking God if he would put me in rooms with people that I want to be like. That's what I kept on saying. Like just bring people around me that I want to be like so I can become more like them so I can like follow in their footsteps. This past week I was in the room with Heidi Baker, Michael Kulianos with a bunch of people that are my, that have shaped my faith, that are my biggest role models. And I'm looking at God. I'm looking at John. And I'm just like, what? How, like, he's so faithful. And it was like really, really, really a cool week. I got to do a lot of just fun stuff with people I really look up to and really admire. Heidi Baker is the most incredible woman I've ever met in my life. And yeah, it was really cool. I can't believe.
Starting point is 00:08:45 that you got to do that. It was really special. Did anything like crazy happen? Did you see people like, I love how charismatic like, oh my gosh, I wish I was in a church that was so charismatic because I live for it. But yeah, they're just like they love the Holy Spirit and they are so about the gifts of the Spirit. And it's just like a really joy-filled environment.
Starting point is 00:09:08 And I think that's what, it was so funny. Like the meeting with Heidi and Iris Global was like so joy of the Lord. And then Jesus image is like so fear of the Lord, just like all reverence, awe, and like just like, oh, so much holiness. And I love, I just love both. And yeah, so ask God to put you in rooms with people that you want to be like. And he, he's just so faithful to do that. Like, I feel like God is so faithful. I don't feel I know.
Starting point is 00:09:35 He's so faithful to, like, propel us towards our destiny in him. And one of the ways to do that is by bringing the right people around you. So, like, ask God. Lord, bring the right people around me to, like, bring me where I'm supposed to go. And he's going to do it. And then you're going to be, like, how are all these new people coming into my life, like pushing me in the right direction? It's so true because I have been praying for, like, mentors.
Starting point is 00:10:00 Yeah. And then the way God just provides that. So that's why that's so good that you said that because I hear so many of you guys being like, I'm alone. I don't have community. Yeah. Ask for it. The way that God has provided us mentors and an incredible older women of God that can walk this walk with us, it's insane.
Starting point is 00:10:22 Yeah. And so he will provide. I love Heidi Baker. I watched a couple of her things. The way she gives her life to people and just dedicates her whole life to others is I wish everyone had that because she really has changed in the world. Like she is so incredibly selfless. I mean, so selfless to the point where it's like it almost can produce like shame in a way because you're just like, wow, that is like a level of godliness and selflessness that is so hot that you can never attain by yourself. It's only the Holy Spirit that can empower you to live like that.
Starting point is 00:11:01 And my prayer since being with Heidi is like, because for her life, there's no difference between ministry Heidi and regular life Heidi. she's always doing ministry because she's always living for Jesus and she's always living for other people and yeah I've been praying every single day God make me like make there be no difference between Angela in ministry and Angela like just hanging out and chilling you know just like always being on mission and always being aware that like there's a need somewhere that you can meet you know it's really special you do really good with that you do really good with that no you do really good with You're always on mission for people. You are, too.
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Starting point is 00:15:29 We're going to play heads up. No, my hair's fine. I'm not worried. I don't kill it. By the way, I just really wanted to say to everyone who I posted videos of Liam, my nephew. Oh, the briefcase. You guys are the most loyal riders. I've never felt so seen in my life. I got hundreds of messages of people going, lily lush, lush, I buy a little leg lush. I was like, you guys are the best people in the world. I know. They just, they hear everything. They know everything. I just love. Like, the fact that we have so many inside jokes is my favorite thing in the world. I have friends. Okay. I forget. Oh, I have to act it out. No, you get to say it. So you do these. I'll do these. I'll go for. What do I do? Okay. So I'm going to put it on my head and you're going to see the word. Don't say the word, but describe the word. Yeah. Right? I can't talk, though. Oh, yeah, I can. I remember. We're not doing. We're not mind me. No.
Starting point is 00:16:32 Okay, okay. Ready? Usually we're supposed to have a timer. We don't need it. Yeah, we do. It's the whole point of the game. Are we playing a win? Jesse, can you time us on our game?
Starting point is 00:16:46 Okay, guys, you're going to want to watch this on YouTube because it might be hard. You're not going to be able to see what we're doing. So you probably, and if you don't want to listen to this or watch this, I will put in the description when the episode starts and you can skip to it. Jesse, I don't think he needs to. Because we're not going to do it with the timer. We're just going to keep going. But then what's the point of winning? Do you really want to win?
Starting point is 00:17:09 Are you trying to win? Yeah, I'm trying to win today. Okay, I thought we were just playing for fun. My gosh. Okay, ready? And go. I am, I, I do. Marriage.
Starting point is 00:17:24 No matter what you did, I forgive you and it's okay. Forgiveness? I am like I just I it's okay like I am I am I want to break down my pride and ego humility Yes um it's just kind kind kind kind and meek gentle and meek kindness gentleness patience tenderness patience patience kindness kindness kindness fruits of the spirit yes i can't believe this is happening it's like uh awe this is insane i can't believe it i prayed for it and and breakthrough oh my god he had cancer and now he's healed healing he had cancer and now he's healed miracle the blind can say yes man okay gosh
Starting point is 00:18:20 um shh i it's praying in tongues that was weird yeah yes okay um i ran away and i did my thing but i came back repentance like this jesus oh i went and rebelled open arms i went i who is it jesus the prodigal says um i get up really early i clean i serve um servant heart what am i i am i i i um i want to be this for my husband um beautiful i want to be this in life to others um I want to be a answered prayer. I want to get up early. I want to feed the goats.
Starting point is 00:19:06 I want to be a proverbs 31. Yes. Did she feed goats? Yes. Okay. You are going to have, like, I see in the spirit that you are going to, I just gave it away. You're going to, you're going to do ministry and convert Muslims. I just got a vision, prophecy.
Starting point is 00:19:26 Yes. um um um yes uh i have to go fast god is going to use me to bring people i have to i have to tell everyone to go evangelism no i have to go tell everyone to fast and then and then and then we're going to figure out what to do discipleship i am i am i am a woman the woman in the bible woman at the well no i i i everyone we have to go fast to make a decision I am the one no matter what all the trials God like God listens to me answered prayers no um um the um it's people have said that I am like this this woman
Starting point is 00:20:17 Rreal people said I am like this like I like I like Esther okay okay okay okay you said it oh um you can have kids at 90 Sarah you can have kids at 90 um I send I went the wrong way I and I I temptation I bit the apple Eve okay you're doing so good I just did that and I'm and I feel conviction yes yes yeah okay your turn Oh my god, I just saw one. It's okay. Yeah. That was really, really honest of you.
Starting point is 00:21:06 Um, the ark. The ark got flowed. Yes. Okay, I put on the breastplate of righteousness. The heaven of God. Yes. Okay, I won't speak. All right.
Starting point is 00:21:18 I'm going to pursue this, so I'm not having no sex. Um, um. Um, um, purification. No, I mean. I mean, not really. I'm not having any sex because I'm pursuing. Purity!
Starting point is 00:21:32 Yeah! By his stripes, we are. Peel! Yes! Oh, the Holy Spirit gives me joy! No! The Holy Spirit gives me empowerment. So I, Peter, the disciples, Peter.
Starting point is 00:21:50 Faith! No, he went to go preach a message, and the Holy Spirit came upon him, and he delivered a message, and he was... Prove this up! No. And he was, it is the opposite of a lack of confidence because you are like... Courage! Kind of, no.
Starting point is 00:22:02 You are... You and I have this. When you're about to go on stage and you don't know what's going on, God feels... Fulness! Y! All right. Oh, you're in this one, baby. You know this.
Starting point is 00:22:15 What is it? You know this one. It's when what you want hasn't come yet. Faith. No, when you want it hasn't come yet. You're in this type of period. Wait and see that. Yes!
Starting point is 00:22:26 You're not this one. Okay, okay. Oh, I broke everything. Who won? Who won? Okay, it's a joint effort. We both won. We both on.
Starting point is 00:22:38 Do you have any more? No. Okay. A man that had everything taken away from him. And I talked about it. You are, yes. Me and you, you have the gift of. You have this.
Starting point is 00:22:54 I have this. You can see. what some you can see through somebody you can see. Yes! You give this a lot. You give me a lot of. I, I, he, he did, I mean, I see that he's going the wrong way, but I give him.
Starting point is 00:23:11 Grace! Yes! Oh! Oh, this, we have a lot of this, baby. When we're on tour, and the devil's spiritual warfare. The devil's sacri-punching us. Spiritual warfare. No. Get him. Oh, this is my favorite story in the Bible, the woman that I relate to most. Mary Magdalene. And?
Starting point is 00:23:33 With the issue of blood? Yes. No way. Heart and hearts. He hardened his heart. He hardened his heart. He hardened his heart. David?
Starting point is 00:23:46 Moses. He hardened his heart. Oh, Pharaoh. Yes. David. Oh, spiritual warfare. We did that. Okay, your turn.
Starting point is 00:23:57 Okay, oh, we make this out of our relationships with boys. Idols. Yep. Did. Did. Used to. Past tense. The most beautiful thing is when you can hear Jesus.
Starting point is 00:24:14 Mm. The Holy Spirit. Mm. Uh, uh, uh, what, you, you want to, you want to, you want to. You want to hear this. You want to hear the whole... You want to talk. You talk to Jesus, and then what you want to receive back is hearing...
Starting point is 00:24:36 Oh, the gifts of... No. Prophecy. No. No. Spiritual gifts. No, no, no. You were close in the beginning.
Starting point is 00:24:43 You were close in the beginning, but different wording. I don't remember what you said. That's okay. God's voice. I could have said that. I know, but you already got it, really. Oh, this guy, he was really strong because of his hair. David.
Starting point is 00:24:54 Oh, um, Saul. No, no. Oh, oh, Samson. Yeah. Yeah. Close. Oh, this was the first evangelist ever because Jesus said, you have five wives, and she ran and said, he told me everything I've ever known or everything that I've ever done in my life, everything about myself. Jesus was talking to somebody, getting water, saying, oh, the woman at the world.
Starting point is 00:25:20 Yes. Oh, this is. my guy, we want to Paul! No, yes, but no. We want to model our life after him. John the Backet. Yes. Okay, a man after God's own heart. David?
Starting point is 00:25:36 Yeah. My favorite. Guys, turn it down. This is this is you. This is you. When we watch The Chosen together. Mary Magdalene.
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Starting point is 00:29:45 I was just thinking this yesterday to break shame off of people because I think a lot of people probably have shame and they don't talk about. it. And something else that I've noticed with Christians is that we all talk about like the great encounters that we've had with God and how amazing our relationship with Jesus is without always sharing the fact that like we might be in a dry season or we might not be feeling things in our quiet time. Do you get what I'm trying to say? Yeah, yeah. Do you experience that ever? Yeah. I actually experienced that the past. couple weeks um i it's so funny i've gained a new compassion from moms because you know we're by ourselves so we have all the time in the world we can get up in the morning we can go you know whatever
Starting point is 00:30:36 but i've had a loved one staying with me for a couple weeks and i have not i felt like you know you have people you feel like you're so close to jesus that you can just kind of oh it's okay i can just get up and I can go do my thing and all these things. And so the past two, actually, it's been longer than two weeks because I went back to Boston. Then I came home. Then I had a sibling come and stay with me. So you know how that goes. You're just, you're busy.
Starting point is 00:31:06 You're just, you want to entertain. You want to make them happy. And you don't even think about Jesus. And, you know, I mean, and then you don't even think about yourself. And so I have found myself for the past two weeks, not even, I have not read the Bible. I have not been in my secret place. I have tried. I can't focus.
Starting point is 00:31:26 I'm thinking I'm trying to pray at 7 a.m. And then I'm thinking I'm looking at my clock at 7.30. We have to be here. And so I have just completely, and I can feel it. Yeah. And you think you're in this, oh, I have the Holy Spirit. And I love him so much. And I'm in relationship.
Starting point is 00:31:50 And it's okay, you know. And man, have I felt it the best? Yeah. I felt it every day, actually. It's like my spirit has been grieving so much. Yeah. Oh, I have free storms. And it's been such a, it's honestly been a really good reminder,
Starting point is 00:32:07 and it's been a really good lesson for me. Because I wonder if you guys feel that way sometimes where you just think you can just go on your days and you can just whatever, and I'll get to it when I get to it. But, man, have I been having unwanted thoughts? And, yeah, just, you know, you start to kind of do things a little bit worldly and you catch yourself, whereas if you're in the Word and you're in the secret place and you're in communion, you don't, you like, you don't even play with that stuff. And not to say that I'm doing whatever, but like. Of course.
Starting point is 00:32:45 It's so small. It's like really subtle. Right. The same thing happened with me where I went to New York. I was with my family, so I wake up, and this is like maybe four days where I would wake up and, like, I did not spend time with Jesus. I would wake up and read like a psalm or read like a little something to just check off a box. Just be like, Jesus, I gave you this.
Starting point is 00:33:11 And right in my mind, I'm like, I'm on vacation. And not even that I didn't want to or I was neglecting it. I like truly didn't. I was not waking up in time. like early enough to spend time with him because there I did have places to be and the first day it's fine the second day it's fine the third day the fourth day all of a sudden I'm in Nashville and like I didn't even notice until I literally go oh my gosh I have no control over my emotions right now I it's crazy I'm out of so out of touch with Jesus and myself that I am not a
Starting point is 00:33:51 in control of my emotions and I am feeling I get hit all of a sudden just one day and I feel like that's what Satan does so much where he like doesn't he allows it to where you don't feel the effects right away until it's like almost too late and it's never too late but it feels too late because now you're like oh my gosh I'm a mess and I don't know how to get back to where I was I spend like four or five days not spending time with Jesus like I usually do and then all of a sudden, like all of a sudden, one day I get hit with all this anxiety, with all this emotion, I am having relational conflicts. Like, that's what always happens when I'm not spending time with Jesus is I'll, I see it in
Starting point is 00:34:33 my relationships and my friends, like with my mom, with this, with that, like you just see there's discord and there's miscommunication and there's just you're out of alignment. And you're not being fed and you're not full and you don't have patience. And if you come from a broken pastor, a broken family, like all of those old patterns will come back. Like, yes, we are saved, freed, and delivered, but, like, you do have to stay free. You do have to stay delivered. And you do that through spending time with Jesus and, like, being in the word. And, yeah, it happens so fast.
Starting point is 00:35:10 And I also learned such a big lesson where I was like, I can't, like, even on vacation. it just like yeah for me personally and I think for you too we just have been through so much that we can't even afford to like take days off like that you know what I mean I know and I thought too to myself I said Laura like how was it that I often like miss those days where I was in like such a dark place because that's when I was with him And I like had a moment where I was like, bring me back to that place if that's what it takes because I don't like this right now. Like I just felt like, yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:35:59 I, that's why I'm like, I had a moment where I was like, I am glad I have that thorn in my flesh where I cannot be with, and I don't think any of us can, none of us can be without Jesus will all be spiritually dead. have a hard time being honest sometimes and going to the to prayer and like opening up like I almost feel like you're so disappointed in me yeah you're so disappointed in me like I got up and I you weren't the first thing I I thought about and then I was in my in my church yesterday and it was such an incredible sermon and she was like he's omnipresent he knows he knows the mistakes you make he knows the sadness he knows when you go the other way and she said i said this
Starting point is 00:36:57 to you she's like you don't have to climb up a ladder to get him he climbs he walks down to meet you so he meets you and every moment you're at like your sadness your sin your anxiety anxiety or depression, but so much of us, we hide. We hide and we're just not honest and so. But then again, this is normal. This is normal as human beings and that's why it's so good to talk about it. And I honestly feel better that you just went through that too. Because it's so normal and I just think just to break the shame because what you just talked about, and that's why I wanted to talk about this because we all feel so much shame when we're not like performing as like the way that we should and then you might look at me and I might look at you and be like but look at what
Starting point is 00:37:43 she's doing she's in the secret place she's doing this when I have no idea that actually you're struggling in some ways and you don't know what I'm struggling with and what you just talked about is so real about how like that shame causes you to not be honest what I've realized about shame more than anything is that it caused like shame causes you to self-protect so usually when people, and this is what I've noticed in my own life, that like whenever we have shame, shame is such a killer because it causes you. Like his kindness leads us to repentance. So conviction is supposed to lead us in the right direction. When we feel conviction, it's supposed to be a grace to like empower us to change and to move the other way and to change whatever is going on
Starting point is 00:38:32 that's wrong and come back into alignment with Jesus. But shame, because you start to feel like what did christine say she said that the difference between shame men guilt is like guilt is i've done something bad shame as i am bad yeah and guilt i've done something bad means i could just go do something else but shame i am bad there's nowhere you can go from there you're just bad there's nothing you can do because you are bad so i've realized that for me and probably so many people when you feel shame you won't move in the right direction because you'll begin to self-protects because shame is painful. And so you might start to negotiate and justify as a means to self-protect because you don't want to feel that shame. So you'll start to say, or I'll start to say,
Starting point is 00:39:21 we'll start to say, like, no, it's, I don't actually need to do that. Or like, that's okay that I did that. Or it's okay. You know what I mean? And that's what I've noticed for myself is that, like, every time I have shame, I'll actually justify what I did. And it doesn't let me move forward. that's why shame is the number one thing we have to break because it doesn't let you change. And any area of my life that I see there wasn't like profound changes and shifts is because I had shame. And I wasn't like being honest with Jesus and telling him, hey, this is like the God honest truth of what's going on. And I'm not going to have shame about it, but I'm just going to let you help me and help me change. So yeah, thanks for saying that. I went through the same thing. And like
Starting point is 00:40:07 it doesn't matter how long you've been walking with Jesus. Because you feel so strong in him, you think like you can come away, go away for a few days, go on vacation, let him take a back seat. And then you see how quickly things become so weird in your life. And that's what I experience. Like, things just become weird. I don't feel right. Things don't feel right. I know I didn't respond in that situation the way I would have had I been in the word and had I been.
Starting point is 00:40:37 yeah so let me tell you when you're not filled you've I'm like there's I thought 2010 aria was long gone but she's she she she's here again okay really when my when our back when when your back is against the wall and you're not full of Jesus you'll see you'll see a version of yourself come out and you're like where did you come from get out why are you weird. You're not invited. It's so weird. It's so crazy. So yeah. And that's just to break shame for every single person who feels bad that they haven't been spending time with Jesus or feels like they're not performing well enough or that they're not doing enough. It's not like that. It's not like what we can do and what we can accomplish and how many chapters we can read as a way to like
Starting point is 00:41:29 measure our godliness. Like we want to spend time with Jesus because he's our Lord. and our love and our best friend and we need to be fed like we need to be we need to eat we need to be full and so that's why we say this and it's nothing i just don't want anyone to feel shame we just have to break shame in jesus name there is no shame there's no condemnation you don't have to feel bad about things in a way that causes you to turn away from jesus it's really so simple you just make a decision to be better and don't even think about it again you know like don't have shame there's like truly no reason for anyone to have shame and don't compare yourself don't compare your spiritual life it's good to be inspired i was with people the past week that i'm like i want that i want to
Starting point is 00:42:16 be like that but i'm not going to everybody's in process everybody and we don't talk about the process no you might look at ari and i as like these really godly girls who spend so much time with Jesus and we are um you know blah blah all the things we've been in process for years now and there's ups and there's downs and there's a lot of downs and there's backtracking and there's yeah and there's a lot of falls yeah even back sliding going back oh yeah tell them yeah i i it's so funny you're speaking on this we're so meant to talk about this because i thought about that the other day I was like, I wonder how many people look at me and think that I just, like, have it all together with Jesus. Because I had so many moments this past two weeks of being like, I'm really falling short.
Starting point is 00:43:10 Yeah. Really, really falling short. And so I was like, I really had that thought of I want to talk about this. I'm so happy we're talking about it. Me too. We just, no shame. We just got to get rid of shame. But it goes hand in hand with the love of God.
Starting point is 00:43:23 And I think I preach about the love of God and his safety and his protection. and his protection so much. But I had a moment of being like, I have a lot of work to do on understanding you as my dad. And I talk about how he is father and he is love. But I think for myself, like, how much do I really know that? Because I deal with so much shame of hiding, of like self-numbing on my phone, of calling my friends and just like, well, it's good to have community, but I self-numb with friends of getting validation and going on my phone so I don't have to think. And that's all rooted because I don't want to deal with it.
Starting point is 00:44:12 Exactly. And I even wanted to make a confession today of being like, because I talk about the secret place so much. I, those days that I was not, I was on Instagram more than I was so confronted by like this is so bad so bad i was on instagram so much and oftentimes it's not till somebody like points it out john really gently goes and i've never seen you like the whole time we've been dating you've like you're you've been good about your phone like i've never seen you like this every time i had a moment of silence or not in conversation i would instinctually take out Instagram. Like, that's not normal. Totally self-numbing. And you're getting something from the phone that you should be getting from God that if you got it from God, you would no longer need it from the phone.
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Starting point is 00:49:20 scrolling on the phone. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, I think so I was saying like, and for all of us, like I think what we should even talk more about on the podcast, like maybe even do a series, it's like really the love of God. Yeah. Because if we really did truly know the love of God, like we wouldn't sit in shame. Yeah. And so meditating on that scripture, which is my favorite. Like he's slow to get angry. Right. Like that's what his work. it says like he is slow to get angry and he's quick to forgive but we're like running from him and we can't be honest and we feel like he's going to just leave us and and um you know he's like this this god that's like looking down just being like you know you're not spending enough time like
Starting point is 00:50:11 I'm going to go to the next person like I'm so I think it's I think we should all even after this episode if you're someone that's sitting in shame you're someone that's just You just feel like you're too far gone. You can't go to God. You can't be honest in your prayer time. Meditate on that scripture. I always go back to it. He's slow to get angry and quick to forgive.
Starting point is 00:50:33 He's merciful. So good. Like meditate on that. That's who he is. And what you said about how like you preach it all the time, you preach the love of God. There are things I preach. And I've said this before. But there's such a difference between reading scripture,
Starting point is 00:50:49 understanding it in your mind and actually receiving spirit heart level revelation of what that actually means and it's only through lived experience you can't like learn these things with your mind you can only walk them out with jesus you can only receive revelation by seeing jesus in your life like working and and spending time with him and like literally sitting letting yourself be still letting God still your heart letting God still your mind and actually receive it do you want to read a little bit of Genesis 3 really quick just because the hiding I think what you touched on is so important because we have to stop hiding can I say one thing about worship yeah worship has like the past couple Sundays of me just having so much anxiety
Starting point is 00:51:41 worship, I was like wrecked by the spirit and worship. And Rick Warren said something. I literally heard it. I think it was like two years ago. And it sticks with me always. Because when you're new to church, like sometimes it's uncomfortable to, I don't know, sing. But he said, always say the words. No one's watching you. There's something when you sing the words that you get touched. And so, like, that's where God meets you when you are speaking the words. And so if you're someone who, like, is really shy and you don't like to sing, just say the words. Like, utter those words out of your mouth at church. No one's watching you.
Starting point is 00:52:22 No one cares. Everybody's in their own word of Jesus. So true. So, yeah, I would just encourage you to say the words during worship because it will hit different and he will meet you in that place. I love that so much. It's like a sweet aroma going into heaven. Let's just read Genesis 3 really, really quick. We know Adam and Eve, this is the gospel of Jesus.
Starting point is 00:52:49 This is the beginning of the gospel. Adam and Eve were the first humans that God created. And basically, these two were meant to live in perfect harmony and union with God. And we see in this story that Eve was tempted by. Satan to disobey go against God and we see the fall of man in this very short passage and you see Christine Kane talked about it like this is the moment that shame entered the world this is the moment that people humans started to hide and I think that what I'm realizing about life and journeying with Jesus more than anything is that it is a process of taking the mask off and like
Starting point is 00:53:33 stop and stopping hiding and I think it's so crazy coming into faith and realizing how many different masks you have to protect yourself, how many ways in which we self-protect. I can't even believe the way in which I've self-protected my whole life. And I look at eight-year-old Angela, five-year-old Angela, 12-year-old Angela, the one who got really tough, really fast because she knew that if she wasn't tough, she wouldn't survive. She needed to be tough. And now it's a process of healing that small version of myself and saying you don't need this anymore. Like Jesus protects you. I am safe and I don't need to self-protect. And being vulnerable in all aspects of life with God, with people, I think it
Starting point is 00:54:20 leads to, I don't know what I think it leads to. I think it leads to like embarrassment and I think it leads to, you know, weakness and people rejecting you. And like that's the biggest fear is that you'll be rejected if you're yourself and you won't be accepted and I'm realizing like all these things that I've used to self-protect I don't need them anymore and if people reject me if they don't accept me that's okay I'm not going to die I have Jesus and I have people you know what I mean and so Genesis chapter 3 says the serpent was the shrewdest of all the wild animals the Lord God had made this is Satan the serpent one day he asked the woman Eve did God really really say you must not eat the fruit from any of the trees in the garden. Did God really say you have
Starting point is 00:55:10 to read the word every single day? Did God really say that you should really get close to Jesus and not depart from him? Did God really say that you can just go to that bar and just like, it's just, you're just going to be with some friends? Exactly. Did God really say that you can just drink and like do you know whatever like really like we have had these thoughts yeah like even going back home to boston of like it's just just Ariel you're too much seriously like are you like you this this spiritual stuff is just no it like makes me want to cry because like I think what that's one of that's been one of the hardest things of my walk is like I'm like I like sometimes if I'm not filled and I sometimes I'm like we did I've had these moments
Starting point is 00:56:06 recently like yeah did he really say yeah am I being too much yeah can I go to this place and just hang out like maybe I'm being too much am I like being like over religious like a Pharisee like I swear and it's like it messes you up sometimes because we don't come from a household of faith right we're called to be set apart but sometimes it's so confusing because we want to like hang yeah yeah but you know it's not right so i've when you just said that i just have had so many of those moments did you really say yes but doesn't it all sound like this one moment it sounds just like that one moment did he say that do you really need to are you sure like every even you're being too much you're being too much and i just want to say
Starting point is 00:56:55 you've done such a good job amidst this life alter during situation that you've been through being in the middle of these two worlds you've done I sat with Ari on the phone for 30 minutes last night and telling her like you are so impressive holding the tension like and you're honest and you like you've done a really really good job yeah thank you it's hard to yeah it's hard to being single because sometimes you're like I've had so many people be like why don't you just give that guy a chance I know you're can lead him to the lord like who cares he's a good guy right you know yeah yeah yeah and so it's confusing at times because you could go on a date with his unbeliever just go with him yeah ariel oh i've gotten that a lot
Starting point is 00:57:45 lately arreel like so yeah it's it's a wrestle it's we got to go back to the scripture so i'm glad you're reading it did god really say you must not eat the fruit from any of the trees in the garden She says, of course we may eat fruit from the trees in the garden. The woman replied, it's only the fruit from the tree in the middle of the garden that we're not allowed to eat. God said, you must not eat it or even touch it. If you do, you will die. They have a garden full of fruit and all the things that they could ever want or need.
Starting point is 00:58:20 God said, just don't go for this one thing. Just do not disobey me. I've given you so much. I have life for you. I have everything that you'll ever want or need. Just obey me in this one area. and the certain says you won't die the serpent replied to the woman god knows that your eyes will be opened as soon as you eat it and you will be like god knowing both good and evil and the woman was
Starting point is 00:58:42 convinced she saw that the tree was beautiful and its fruit looked delicious and she wanted the wisdom it could give her so she took some of the fruit and ate it then she gave it some to her husband who was with her and he ate it too sin begets sin flesh begets flesh, flesh and sin give birth to more flesh and sin, and then you infect the people around you, and it's just this vicious cycle. At that moment, this is where shame comes into the world. At that moment, their eyes were opened, and they suddenly felt shame at their nakedness. So they sewed fig leaves together to cover themselves. They felt shame at their nakedness. When the cool evening breezes were blowing, the man and his wife heard the Lord
Starting point is 00:59:29 God walking about in the garden. So they hid from the Lord God among the trees. Then the Lord God called to the man, where are you. God knows where they are. God wants a confession. He's pursuing. He's after them. They're naked, ashamed, afraid. They've done the worst thing that they can do. And God is asking, where are you? So every time that you're in a position where you're feeling shame, you've just sinned, you haven't spent time with Jesus, you're in this cycle and pattern of thinking that you're so bad and God's so disappointed in you and he wants nothing to do with you. You need to know that he's asking, where are you? Come to me. Come back. He replied, I heard you walking in the garden. So I hid. We have to stop hiding. We have to stop hiding. I was afraid because I was naked. Who told you
Starting point is 01:00:21 that you were naked? You were never supposed to know this. The Lord God asked, have you eaten from the tree whose fruit I commanded you not to eat God is always asking for a confession He's not doing it to punish them to be like I'm gonna like put salt in your wound And make you repeat to me what you did He's like share it with me Because when you tell me what's happened
Starting point is 01:00:40 When you're honest with me You will be free The man replied It was the woman you gave me Who gave me the fruit And I ate it The Lord God asked the woman What have you done?
Starting point is 01:00:53 The serpent deceived me She replied that's why I ate it Like, this is just the most insane beginning of the rest of history where in the worst moment of all of human history, the worst moment in all of mankind is the moment that shame entered the world. So, like, just to echo what Christine said on that episode is like, shame is a killer. Don't allow it in your life. Don't hide.
Starting point is 01:01:22 Don't wear a mask. Don't try to justify what's happening as a way to self-protect. just be honest and like let that let the Holy Spirit empower you to move forward and to change and to be better like the Holy Spirit will do what the Holy Spirit does when we're honest the second you're honest you don't even need to try you don't even need to do anything like that the Holy Spirit will give you that boldness and empowerment you just can't have shame we break shame in Jesus name right now over every single person listening and watching no more shame in Jesus name no more pride in Jesus' name that causes us to be like, I'm good. I don't need to spend time
Starting point is 01:02:03 with God. I don't need to do this. I'm going to listen to these people who are saying, did God really say that, you know? And that's a way of self-protection of shame. Yes. Yeah. I, and yeah, it's just like, let this be an episode to know that you're not alone. Right. And like, we're not perfect. Ah! No, we're not. We're not. And he sees everything. And there's such a freedom that comes when you stop putting a facade up. He was let it go. And you're just like, even if it's a worst thing in the world that you feel like it'll be so condemned for, like when you release that, confess your sins to one another. And then confess it to Jesus. And there's a freedom that comes and you can breathe again. But it's like we carry it on our chest, on our back, when we're hiding us. somebody else we're like we're wearing masks and it's just it's awful yeah and it's there's no need for it yeah yeah no keep going he's he's he's our father who's who remember what i said he's omnipresent he sees us when he falls he's saying where are you yeah like with that voice too
Starting point is 01:03:15 i imagine god being like where are you like he was with the prodigal son like this like that's who he is there's longing in his voice yeah so so can we just all like i really it's been so heavy on my heart and i've had to really go back and and meditate on the scripture of the merciful and gracious god because i've lost it recently right i'm and i i've talked to my mentors grew up in the church and they even like there's so many people that grow up and and in the church and they were taught that you sin, you're bad and you have to be like this. And like, we're going to fall short, but the love of God. And like, and that is what makes you be more like Jesus. The more we know the love of Jesus, the more we want to follow him. Yeah. And so when we
Starting point is 01:04:15 don't know the love of Jesus, we feel criticized, we feel shame. So we turn the other way and do the exact opposite. And that's why so many people don't want to be in Christianity because they don't know the love of Christ. Right. Right. And so I, yeah, I've, so good. I've been really studying just shame with people and why they leave and why they don't want to be involved with this. Because that's they think Christianity is. It's shameful. It's bad. You're bad. You can't do like it's not it. That's the opposite of Christ. And so even as I say that, I still need to understand that more. So I really, I would love to do it just as serious on the love of God. We should. We have to because it's not a moral religion. It's not about morality. It's not
Starting point is 01:05:05 about what you can do and you can't do. And there are obvious things that are not, it is a pursuit of holiness and righteousness and godliness. And that means that some things are yes and some things are no and it's very plain at times. However, you don't live a life that's focused on what you can't do and what you can't do. You live a life that's focused on receiving the love of Jesus, of sitting and being the beloved and just receiving from him. And when you receive Jesus, when you receive the love of God, when your eyes are fixed on Jesus, you actually have no desire to go anywhere else, to do anything else, to talk any other way. Like you, become holy because he is holy. And I think about the phrase, like, you are who you hang out with.
Starting point is 01:05:53 Well, imagine if you hang out with Jesus. You'll be like him. And you don't have to try. I know. You don't have to try. I don't, I'm not, I have a lot of issues. I'm not saying I'm perfect by any means, obviously. But there are things in my life that I used to do that I don't do that. I don't try to not do. I just don't do them because I want, I'm, I'm, I hang out with Jesus. and I'm like him in a lot of ways. And every day becoming more like him. And then there are deep-rooted stuff that, like, addictions and traumas and stuff, and that's a little different.
Starting point is 01:06:23 But when you spend time with Jesus, when you love Jesus, when your heart is burning for Jesus, you become like him, you act like him, and you don't think about what you can do and what you can't do. And you do realize that it's not about shame. Why would you ever run away from the person who created you, who's obsessed with you? you don't have to hide you don't have to numb out and these are things that we need the holy spirit to empower us to do and there are choices we have to make we have to partner with god in this we all have to let shame break and we have to stop numbing out you know and i think that's what this episode is probably about no more numbing out no more numbing out with the phone no more numbing out with
Starting point is 01:07:08 TV and people and boyfriends and girlfriends and relationships and no more idolatry in putting people and things above Jesus because it's easier access. It like, it's all about gratification. With Jesus, it's not so much, it's not instant gratification like it is with the phone or like it is with people. Like Jesus, you have to sit and you have to be patient and wait and it's like so fulfilling and so satisfying because it's not just self instant gratification. Like you actually have to sit and give time and adore and love and let yourself be loved. I love that. And I have a couple things to go off of that. It's like, I don't know if you're sitting here and like you want a relationship with Jesus, but you just like, you're like, no.
Starting point is 01:08:00 Like, I don't know if you grew up in the church and you just were taught a certain way. but I don't know. I have been watching so many things on, like, people leaving the faith. Right. And I think, like, when you have really gotten touched by Jesus, like, really, you can't go back. You can't. So that's scripture. It says that if anyone has ever, if you leave the faith, you never knew Jesus in the first place.
Starting point is 01:08:28 You never knew Jesus because you can't go back. So I would just encourage somebody to. Pride kills us, ego kills us, and we think we're walking with Jesus, but we have so much pride that we're not really walking with Jesus. We just think we are, but we have a wall of pride. You have to get break down every single wall, and oftentimes that means getting broken down to getting everything stripped away. So if you are in a season where everything has been stripped away, take it as a blessing. He is not breaking you. He's actually trying to come after you.
Starting point is 01:09:00 Yeah, yeah. And then I will just say that this season, I can't believe how much I'm getting revealed, how being busy is so destructive. Sometimes we have to get things done, we have to serve, and that means like going all in. But busyness for me has always been a good thing. do this do that okay i did all my things i'm done for the day and i look back and i can't believe how much my life is passing me by you reach a certain age and then all of a sudden it's like it goes like a blip like it's august what do you mean it was just summer's over it was just my birthday i know i know it's not to be your birthday what are we talking about it's i know it's
Starting point is 01:09:58 I know. It's insane. It's insane. And so, like, life really is so precious and it's so good. And I, we are not, God did not intend us to be busy and to have our heads down and to basically be in survival mode of getting from A to B and then I did everything. And now I got to go to bed and then I get to wake up at 8 and do it. Like, this is not how life was intended to be. And so I just want to say slow down. and be and feel, feel moments like I, when I wake up in the morning, I want to get up, I want to get out, I want to make my coffee, I want to do this, and then I got to look at my time and then I have to like these little moments of just being, of feeling, of even like laying in bed and spending that extra five minutes like, like, I know this sounds crazy, but like feeling my sheets and like being and looking out and like doing a new activity and and looking. looking at the trees and going to watch sunsets and just being present. Can we all be present?
Starting point is 01:11:04 Because the devil wants nothing more for us to be distracted. And one of the ways is to keep us in shame and to keep us numbed out on our phones and keep us that we have to be on this regiment and we have to work, work, work and make this money and do this and do that. So good. Just relax and be present and enjoy your loved ones and enjoy your friends. and watch sunsets and don't let your mind wander. And when it does, catch the thoughts and say, no, I want to be present.
Starting point is 01:11:35 So good. Because that's when we encounter Jesus, when we just, when we are, like, when we just, like, I've had these moments lately of waking up and I just, I don't rush out of bed. And I look out of my window. And I just, I love you, Lord. I love you. And it's like, it's been the sweetest thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:53 Instead of rushing. I'm so sick of rushing through life. I really am. I'm sick of it. I want to just be. So can we all try to do that more? Thank you so much for saying that. What about when La Cray said to us, if the devil can't make you bad, he'll make you busy? Oh. That rocked me. And I literally was like, I refuse. I took, I literally made a commitment that I'm not doing any speaking engagements, that I'm not doing any going places. I'm not doing all this stuff because I am going to be faithful with what I have, what God has given me. and I am not going to let myself get so busy that my secret place is affected, which I have in the past. I'm not going to allow it. I'm not doing that. I am not. And I, at the conference that I was at, one of the speakers said, like, and we know this, right, but like you need to hear it again.
Starting point is 01:12:44 If the devil can't make you look at porn, go do drugs, cheat on your wife, do all this stuff, he's going to make you exhausted. Of course. He's going to make you tired. He's going to make you numb. he's going to make you apathetic and he's going to make you not be burning for God anymore because of how busy you are and he's just going to distract you and he's going to put all these things in front of you that look like good things. So yeah, we cannot be so busy that we neglect Jesus or neglect time with Jesus. He has to be first. He has to be first above all things. And I know that this might sound repetitive of what we always say, but you never graduate from Jesus having to be the first like on the throne of your heart you never graduate from spending
Starting point is 01:13:31 time with the Lord you never graduate from being completely submitted surrendered and dependent on him like we actually the further you get in life and in faith and the more mature you are in Jesus the more you have to come back to the basics of what did you do at first you loved him you let him love you you let him meet you in your weaknesses and you remembered how fragile and frail you are and never we never graduate from being so fragile and needing Jesus you know and so don't believe the lie that you can get by in your own strength you can't ria and i when you weren't spending time with him when i was not spending time when i was in new york like we were operating out of our own strength and it was really painful and guess what you get nowhere and i was so tired too
Starting point is 01:14:20 yes yeah and the many either who said this somebody said this but the minute youth youth youth think you're, you've done it, you've actually fallen to the ground. So don't ever think that you're good. Exactly. You're never good. You have to constantly be. Quote of the day, you're never good. Like, you have to be hanging on to his hem at every minute. Everything that Ari and I talk today about today, I feel like boils down to one of our favorite verses, which is we do not have a high priest that cannot empathize in our weaknesses. He was tempted in all points as we are yet without sin. Therefore, we come boldly to the throne of grace that we may obtain help and mercy in a time of need.
Starting point is 01:15:07 Meaning Jesus, because he was human like us, experienced everything we did, was tempted in every single way that we were, although he didn't sin, but he understands us. and even in the little things my pastor yesterday said the most profound thing he goes um he goes you know some people might think about like sex and drugs and blah blah blah sure maybe jesus wasn't tempted in those ways but imagine god in flesh has all the power in the universe to do whatever he wants jesus could maybe like like okay that's boss famous but like he can like literally be like like he could do anything he could like he could be like a warlock or a wizard with powers if he wanted to and just make things happen. And like imagine all of like the inconveniences
Starting point is 01:15:56 throughout his life, day by day inconveniences that he could just like at the snap of a finger and make something shift, move, change, get out of his way, little obstacles. Imagine the self-control and the restraint that he had to have to not exercise power in a way that wasn't in accordance with God's will. Like imagine like the insane self-control that that took. And so Jesus is our high priest. He understands everything that we've ever been through, everything we've ever experienced. And that's why we don't have to hide. That's why God sent Jesus in the first place so he could understand us. So he could walk like us. So we didn't have to be naked and ashamed and afraid and hiding because we can look at God in his face and all of his holiness and other thanness.
Starting point is 01:16:43 And we can look at him and be like, you understand me. I just betrayed you, disobeyed you, did something awful. I've been unfaithful. But you get it. So I can show my face to you. I can look directly into heaven and I don't have to hide my face. And this amazing scripture that's, and I think what we really want you guys to know is that you don't have to do it in your own strength. You don't change yourself. We partner with God. So we make choices and decisions that aid in what the Holy Spirit is already doing in us, but he who is faithful, he who begin a good work is faithful to bring it to completion. The Holy Spirit begins the work in us at salvation. And then he's faithful to bring it to completion. He brings it to completion. It doesn't say that you and I do it. God does it. The
Starting point is 01:17:34 Holy Spirit does it. However, we help him and we aid him in that process, but it is so empowering to know that I actually have nothing to do with it. Jesus himself enters into my body. and empowers me and gives me grace to become the person that he wants me to be, to stop numbing out, to stop being distracted, and we bring it to God in prayer. We have to bring it to Jesus in prayer. And one of my favorite scriptures, therefore, he is able once and forever to save those who come to God through him. Jesus lives forever to intercede with God on their behalf.
Starting point is 01:18:14 Jesus lives forever. He's alive. He's in heaven. Seated at the right hand of God. And he lives forever to intercede on our behalf. Meaning that 24 hours a day, seven days a week, Jesus is alive, breathing in heaven, making intercession for us. And so imagine this picture. We pray. I pray and I say, God, I need you. Imagine Jesus is in heaven. And he goes, they need you. you and he says it to God. So every prayer that we pray is amplified into God's ears. That's our connection to God. That's why we needed Jesus because we didn't have that access to God. We didn't have that connection. But because Jesus stands and mediates and is our high priest between us and God, every prayer that we pray Jesus amplifies into God's ears. He gives directly to the Father. I love that. Isn't that crazy? That really just, that really just helped me this morning. If you ever think he's disappointed, you have to remember this picture. He's not disappointed. He's literally your middle man amplifying your prayers. Amplifying.
Starting point is 01:19:26 That is so sweet. I love that. Isn't that crazy? That is so sweet. That makes me want to cry. Yeah. I love Jesus. I love Jesus. You need to know who he is. We have to have a right view. of him. And if we spend the next 10 years on this podcast coming on here every week, never saying anything new, profound, impressive, but we remind people every week, this is who he is. Don't believe the lie that he's disappointed. Don't believe the lie that he's mad. This is who he is. Don't hide your face. That's what we'll do. That we should be saying this every single episode. And I have chill bumps. And this is even from myself. Yeah, me too. You don't graduate from this like you don't. This is awesome. I love.
Starting point is 01:20:14 thank you. That was just a beautiful moment for me to watch. You're so cute. I loved that. That was awesome. We're going to just going to, you guys can just sit and even if you just want to close your eyes and just take in these scriptures right now, these are scriptures for protection and strength and confidence and just God's covering. So if you just let every distraction go right now and just close your eyes, and we're just going to speak scripture over you right now. Psalm 91, whoever dwells in the shelter of the most high will rest in the shadow of the almighty. We will say of the Lord, he is our refuge and our fortress, our God, and whom we can trust.
Starting point is 01:21:06 surely he will save you from the foul or snare and from the deadly pestilence he will cover you with his feathers and under his wings you will find refuge his faithfulness will be a shield and rampart you will not fear the terror of the night nor the arrow that flies by day nor the pestilent that stalks in the darkness nor the plague that destroys at midday a thousand may fall at your side, 10,000 at your right hand, but it will not come near you. You will only observe with your eyes and see the punishment of the wicked. If you say, the Lord is my refuge, say it quietly to yourself, say the Lord is my refuge. And you make the most high your dwelling. No harm will overtake you. No disaster will come near your tent, for he will command his angels concerning you to guard you in all your ways they will lift you up in their hands so that you will not strike your foot against a stone you will tread on the lion and the cobra you will trample the great lion and the serpent because he loves you says the lord he says i will rescue him i will protect he said he says
Starting point is 01:22:32 I will rescue him he says I the Lord says I will rescue you I will protect you for you acknowledge my name you will call on me and I will answer you I will be with you in trouble he says I will deliver you and honor you with long life I will satisfy you and show you my salvation we thank you guys so much for listening today. We thank you for just being our friends and doing this journey with us and being honest. Let this today be a day of honesty, a day to just be, a day to just have the joy of the Lord, a day to just let it all out and let it make you free. Just be free today. Just repent and let it go. Yeah, thank you for everything. Thanks for being our friends. And we love doing life in this journey with you and chasing Jesus together. Thank you for letting us speak into your life and
Starting point is 01:23:41 into your journey. We love you guys so much. And really quickly, we break shame in the name of Jesus in your life. We break every distraction. We break every single demonic attack that is on your life to pull you away from Jesus. We throw off the things that hinder us in our relationship with God and we press on towards the things of Jesus and we just speak the blood of Jesus over your minds, your bodies, and your spirits and your relationship with Jesus. We plead the blood in Jesus' name. We love you guys. May the Lord bless you and keep you. May he make his face shine upon you and be gracious to you. May he turn his face towards you and give you peace. Love you. Shalom, shalom. Love you guys.

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