Girls Gone Bible - Jesus x Politics | Girls Gone Bible

Episode Date: January 24, 2025

Hi GGB ❤️   we had a chance to pray at the 2025 Inauguration this past weekend and we decided to have a conversation on here to let you guys into our hearts and our thoughts.   we just love you ...all so much. every single one of you. and we really, truly, mean that. Jesus loves you more. -Ang & Ari   JOIN US ON GGB+ 🥹❤️ https://ggb.supportingcast.fm   WE ARE ON THE OFFICIAL GIRLS GONE BIBLE LIVE TOUR! www.girlsgonebible.com/tour for the first batch of cities we have locked in :) WE LOVE YOU AND CANNOT WAIT TO SEE YOU!

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hiya. Hiya. Are the lights like especially bright today? I don't know. How are you feeling? Hi, I'm Ange. And I'm Ari. And this is Girls Goin' Bible. We are a faith-based podcast where we talk all things about Jesus. We love Jesus with all of our hearts. He is the God who legitimately saved our lives, rescued us, saved us, healed our mental health,
Starting point is 00:00:40 healed us from various issues, countless issues. That's what He does. He helps us in our weaknesses issues, countless issues. That's what he does. He helps us in our weaknesses and in our issues. And so we say, come as you are, just don't stay that way. Yeah. Sweet baby Ari and I, we wanted to have an episode this week about, so as a lot of people might know, Ari and I had the special opportunity to say the
Starting point is 00:01:08 opening prayer at the Trump rally. Let me turn this off. At the Trump rally this past weekend in Washington, DC, it's been insane. It's been absolutely insane. We really just wanted to give you guys an inside look into our hearts into this weekend. We want to give you guys specifics. We want to tell you why, what, how, where, when, and we just want to invite you in on this particularly sensitive topic, which is politics. And I just wanna start out with saying
Starting point is 00:01:48 that Ari and I love Jesus with all of our hearts, and we are not here to merge politics and Christianity together. That is probably the trickiest thing you could ever do. And while bless the ones who do it, that's not what Ari and I are here to do. And we just wanna make that abundantly clear. That's not our purpose, that's not our motive.
Starting point is 00:02:13 And before we begin, I just wanna say one thing, and I just wanna put it out there. I don't care who you voted for. I don't care who you voted for. I don't care. If you are here listening to this podcast, if you or somebody who has been watching us for a long time saw us at the inauguration,
Starting point is 00:02:35 felt disappointed, feel like now maybe you don't belong or you're not welcome or you're not accepted, I want you to know that that is the opposite of the truth. There are two sides, but it's not Republican and Democrat. It's either the kingdom of God or the kingdom of hell. So if you're in the kingdom of God, which I know that you are, we are on the same team. And I break the spirit of division right now in Jesus' name, and I pray a spirit of unity over all of us, over everybody in America and all over the world, because that's what we're here to do, is unify. We are brothers
Starting point is 00:03:10 and sisters in Christ. That's not a cliche. I mean that with my whole heart. I don't care where you come from, what you believe in, where you are. You're welcome here and I want you to stay. I want you to feel safe here. Yeah. You said it, sister. You guys, we're on tour and it has been the greatest gift to be with you guys in person and laugh with you and hug with you and cry with you. It's truly, oh you have no idea how amazing this has been to actually be with you guys in person. So get your tickets please guys. We can't wait to see you. Go to girlsgombible.com. We can't wait to see you go to girls gone Bible com slash tour We can't wait to see you you guys. Will you please come hang out with us on GGB plus? It is a time where we can go deep and intimate and get real and raw as if we aren't already as real and raw
Starting point is 00:03:57 On this platform, but if you can only imagine we get even deeper It's almost like hanging out with our best friends in our living room together. So please come and hang out with us. Go to girlsgonbible.com slash plus. We can't wait to see you there. So Ari and I had the honor truly of we ended up in the same place as now President Trump. Back then he was not the president yet. We had the opportunity to pray for him. And we posted a video where we both laid hands
Starting point is 00:04:31 on the president and we prayed for him. And we prayed a really sincere prayer that was not catered to any sort of agenda. We simply prayed for him the way that we would pray for each other or someone random or a stranger who needed help. We literally just prayed that he'd have joy, that he'd have peace, and that the Holy Spirit would reveal Jesus to him. And so that happened a while back and then Trump's campaign advisor basically reached out to us and gave us this opportunity to go and open the rally.
Starting point is 00:05:07 And what did you feel leading up to it? Like, how did you feel? I was really nervous. I wanted to honor God and I wanted to... It's really tricky when you get involved in politics because there is a spirit of division, and it's just tricky. And Angela and I always want to come from a place of unity and love and acceptance. That's what we stand for. But I was really honored. I was really honored because I knew that God had called us to that platform to say that prayer and to preach the name of Jesus.
Starting point is 00:05:48 And so I was so nervous for two weeks. I just wanted to honor our president and bless our president and bless this country and pray the name of Jesus. And so I really was at the feet of Jesus for two weeks just talking to him every day and being like, what do you want me to say and how can I how can I just honor you and come from a place of love and so leading up to it was very nerve-racking. We've also never been on a stage that big. We've never spoken in front of that many people and so I didn't know what to expect. It was just really nerve-racking. But then when we got there, it was almost like the peace of
Starting point is 00:06:33 God fell upon you and I. And it was a really beautiful thing. I felt complete peace. And I knew that we were supposed to be there. I just knew it. And so I felt complete peace. And I thought it was a beautiful thing. And it was a beautiful moment. It was an honor. It really was an honor. It was an honor. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:57 Yeah. How did you feel? When we got this opportunity, I am like, I am just somebody who I rely on the voice of God so much. We're in such an interesting world where, like, this is not the first political opportunity that we've been giving. We've always, we have a mission, we have a message, and we have a purpose. And for me personally, that's not my message and it's not my purpose.
Starting point is 00:07:30 And so this was the first opportunity that I just want people to know that when we do stuff like this, we are so prayerful and we are so thoughtful. and I don't step into any space without the Spirit of God. Like, I rely on Jesus, and just because something is big and a stage and in front of people, like, that's even more of a reason to possibly say no to something, because it's that much more of a responsibility. So, us going there, from my perspective, there was so much prayer that went into it, and there was so much in me that was like, Jesus, I am so okay with you not allowing this to happen. I'm waiting on you. But I felt like I got a word from God. I felt like He spoke to me very clearly, and He said, I'm putting you in a space where people are going to want you to conform and to cater and to bend
Starting point is 00:08:33 towards an agenda, because that's what the world is. Everybody, there's an agenda within every situation everywhere. And I knew that God was asking me to step into a place that is unknown territory to me and speak the name of God without compromise and without catering to anybody except Jesus. And so I write out my prayer and I write out this prayer that I was sure, how many times did I say it? They're not going to let me say this. I was sure, how many times did I say it? They're not gonna let me say this. I was like, this is a rally where comedians go, where Kid Rock performed after us. I'm like, there's no way they're about to let me say this prayer.
Starting point is 00:09:15 And I knew, I had an agreement with God that if they came back and told me, sorry, you have to take this out or take this out, I would immediately say, thank you so much for the opportunity, but it's not for me. Like this was a situation where I would not compromise. And when we got the okay and the approval on the prayers, I looked and I said, that is truly the favor of God to God will literally bend people's hearts and position people's
Starting point is 00:09:42 hearts in your favor to allow you to succeed in furthering the kingdom, it's just what he does. And so I was like, okay, that was confirmation for me that we're good, this is good. We get to DC, it's like, you guys have to understand, I am a little Albanian immigrant. I think about my parents, and it makes me emotional, I think about my parents who went through so much to come to this country who grew up in absolute political terror, like grew
Starting point is 00:10:14 up in communist Albania where you there's no freedom of speech, there was no freedom of religion, it was a disaster, and for them to come here and like my parents aren't involved politically whatsoever but to have their little girl in a situation like this when like all they ever wanted to have was like bread and watered, bread and milk to put on the table for their kids like this was it, it's, it is an honor, it is an honor no matter who's there. And so we get there. And for me personally, I think I'm so big on the authority of God. And this was the first time, I have authority no matter what situation I'm in. I could be with the president or the leader of any nation and I won't be intimidated
Starting point is 00:11:01 because I know the authority that I have comes from within. It's not about my external circumstances. But this was the first time, it's like, it was interesting seeing the difference between like a GGB night, where you go there and you know your authority because that's your territory, that's your domain, like you know you're good. We walk into this place where I'm like,
Starting point is 00:11:22 I don't feel like I have authority here. These people don't, I doubt these people wanna hear the gospel preach. I doubt these people, these people don't know us, they don't care, they don't whatever. And so I was fully prepared to walk out there, I was fully prepared to walk out there and be met with people who were completely uninterested
Starting point is 00:11:44 and not entertained nor wanting to hear what we had to say. And I was prepared for that and I knew like I would not compromise regardless of what the response was. Ari and I go out there, we are incredibly surprised at the response that we're seeing in the audience about people genuinely bowing their heads, raising their hands. You see people crying their eyes out.
Starting point is 00:12:11 Beautiful. We pray a prayer and you feel a shift in an arena of over 20,000 people. You feel the presence of God. You feel reverence for Jesus in a room that it doesn't otherwise make sense. Like we're in this room where people are probably maybe even drinking. Like nobody's really, nobody's there for what we have to say.
Starting point is 00:12:33 However, you speak the name of Jesus and you give honor to it and reverence fills the room. It was beautiful. And it was a room full of people that just had a love for Jesus. And you could see it. And I was just looking out, and they had their hands on their heart, and they're rocking back and forth, and they're going like this. It was truly one of the most beautiful things I have ever seen. Today's episode is brought to you by Oli. Clean fresh nutrition that your dog needs in five flavors that they'll absolutely flip over.
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Starting point is 00:17:12 That's betterhelp, H-E-L-P dot com slash Girls Gone Bible. Yeah, Ari and I, we do that, we leave. And then it was an interesting feeling afterwards because you're just full of so many different emotions. And again, it was something completely out of our comfort zone and something very sensitive. And I'm just going to be really honest in saying, like, we went up to one of the, like, balcony things and we watch a little bit of the rest of the rally,
Starting point is 00:17:42 and, you know, Kid Rock performs after us. It's a very different tone to what we went out there to say. And then, you know, there's somebody who goes and gives a speech afterwards. And I'm watching and I realize very quickly that, you know, the messages that are spoken after Ari and I go have a very different tone to what we were saying and a different tone to what Jesus says. And that was an interesting wrestle in my own heart of being like, there was a moment where I went to my room and because emotions were so high, I had to have an honest conversation
Starting point is 00:18:20 with Jesus and I had to be like, did we get this right? We got it right, right? Like, you spoke this, I'm just feeling a lot right now. And then as you said, there's voices and people speaking, and I think what I've learned more than anything this past weekend is that the praise of man and the criticism of man, both of them are to be treated equally. We cannot be governed by the praise of man or by the criticism. Everyone talks
Starting point is 00:18:55 about you can't be governed by the fear of man. You can't care what people think, like if they're talking bad about you, but you also can't be governed by the people who are saying good things about you. Because this is a very funny situation where we have both sides. We have people heavily praising us, and then we have people who are really not happy and who don't understand it. And so I'm listening to the people critiquing, and it puts doubt in my heart. But then I'm listening to the people praising, and it puts confidence in my heart, but then I'm listening to the people praising and it puts confidence in my heart
Starting point is 00:19:26 and I immediately realized that I need neither of these things and I had to focus in and zero in on Jesus and backpedal and retrace my steps and every time I went either way, whether I was listening to the praise or listening to the criticism, I had to literally remove it from my mind and be like, what did God speak originally? What did he say? He said, I want you to go and I want you to speak my name and I want you to minister in a room of people who are
Starting point is 00:19:54 not expecting this. And I had to all like constantly come back because I don't want, even if people are saying something is good, it might not be God, you know what I mean? So we can't be ruled by either of these things. So it's been a really interesting situation. And I think personally, I've learned so much. This is like incredible training ground. It's in front of a lot of people, but you know what I mean? And 1 Timothy chapter two, verses one to two and four say, I urge you first of all to pray for all people. Ask God to help them.
Starting point is 00:20:29 Intercede on their behalf and give thanks for them. Pray this way for kings and all who are in authority so that we can live peaceful and quiet lives marked by godliness and dignity. Jesus wants everyone to be saved and to understand the truth. Yeah. I have a really hard time with division. All we ever want to do is preach the name of Jesus and we want to be followers of Jesus and be humble and keep our eyes on Him. It was a really, it's crazy. Politics are so emotionally charged and everybody has an opinion and it's completely understandable
Starting point is 00:21:06 and luckily we live in the land of the free where you're allowed to have an opinion and you're allowed to have your beliefs. I think it's been, yeah, it's just, it's personally, I have an issue with, I have an issue with people who do like blanket statements of things like, oh, if you are on this stage, it means that you're this, or if you believe in this person, it means you're, if you believe, if you're a Republican, it means you're this blanket statement.
Starting point is 00:21:43 If you're a Democrat, it means you're this blanket statement. If you're a Democrat, it means you're this blanket statement. And I like, my heart broke because I saw a girl comment on our last video and she wrote this long message and she was like, I just don't know what to do anymore. Like I saw you guys pray at the inauguration and I just like, I'm done. She's like, I feel like I can't even be a Christian because I'm not conservative.
Starting point is 00:22:02 I feel like I'm like, looked down upon as a Christian, and so many people feel that way. And like Ari said, we are not by Republican values, nor are we by Democratic values. We are by these values, the biblical values. And sometimes one party or the other party lines up with those more. And that's how we vote.
Starting point is 00:22:24 That's how we believe. That's how we believe. That's what we lean towards is when any policy or law or anything lines up with the word of God, that's what we believe. And I just, but I just wanna say, if you are on the other side, you are just as much a follower of Jesus as everybody else. If you follow the values in this Bible,
Starting point is 00:22:45 if you follow the commands of Jesus and you're walking not in sin, but you're walking in righteousness, the way that Jesus asked you to, and you don't need to feel any less than. And I just wanna say one thing, conservative does not equal Christian. That's like my thing, it doesn't.
Starting point is 00:23:03 And we're in this world, Christian. That's like my thing. It doesn't. And we're in this world. There are a lot of Christians who don't follow Jesus. And I said it in my prayer. I said Christianity is not a moral belief. It's not a set of rules and regulations. If you are following a Christianity that's just a set of rules, burn them. Burn them. Because that's not what Jesus came and died for. Jesus came and died so that you could have life and have it eternally and more abundantly. Not so that you could follow a lifeless religion or you could just proclaim or it's like a cultural belief. Like you're just culturally Christian. That's not Christianity either. Christianity is worship of the crucified
Starting point is 00:23:46 and risen Christ. It is like a supernatural relationship with the God who created you. We're walking around and we're in these places where everyone is labeled as Christian. I'm like, and the truth is they don't follow Jesus. And so if you're not one of those people who's like, I just, it's a sensitive topic, but like, I just want to bring clarity into every situation because if you are on the other side, you are just as much a follower of Jesus. Yeah. And I believe, and that's what we said in our prayers. We just, I pray in this next four years for just unity, for us to come together, not to beat each other down, and this one believes in this, and this one, enough is enough. I pray we all just become in the image of Jesus. That sense of humility just falls upon us all, and we can all, no matter what race, what religion, what belief, whatever you are, I just pray that we all come together in unity because I have never seen more
Starting point is 00:24:54 of a divisive nation more than this past four years. It's been really tough. It's been, you can feel it. It's been heavy. It's been hard. And that's not what Jesus wants. And I just, I just, I pray for humility, like the humility of Jesus. This episode is brought to you by Glorify, the number one Christian daily devotional app. New year, new goals, right? Well, Glorify's 21 Day one Christian daily devotional app. New year, new goals, right? Well, Glorify's 21 Day Challenge is a simple way to reconnect with your faith and start 2025 with intention. Are you ready?
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Starting point is 00:29:04 opportunity to invest in your health without overspending. We really do take everything to heart what you guys say to us because we love you guys so much but we got some comments of saying why are you guys even getting involved in this and things like that because guys politics are important. They are. Like this is our country and God appoints leaders. He does. He appoints people. And while leaders have power, God is in control. I just want to read you guys something from Daniel 2 verse 20 to 21. He said, praise the name of God forever
Starting point is 00:29:39 and ever for he has all wisdom and power. He controls the course of world events. He removes kings and sets up other kings. He gives wisdom to the wise and knowledge to the scholars." Love that you say that so much because it's the absolute, it's the truth. It's the truth. And like Ari said, politics are important. They're our leaders. These things are, they're important.
Starting point is 00:30:02 But I love, there's so much, obviously before this, we're studying Jesus in politics, Jesus in politics, and again, we're not here to merge the two, we're not here to become politician. Like the only reason we're having this conversation is because we, this past week, and happen, there are two different kingdoms. There's the kingdom of heaven, the kingdom of God,
Starting point is 00:30:23 and then there's the kingdom of darkness. We live in the kingdom of darkness. Earth is the kingdom of darkness. Heaven is the kingdom of God. And Jesus, all throughout scripture, talks about these two different kingdoms, and He always differentiates them. And in the Lord's Prayer, He says, this is how He teaches His disciples to pray, your kingdom come, your will be done on earth as it is in heaven. Jesus is telling us to pray and call on heaven to bring heaven down from that kingdom to this kingdom. Because at that time, Jesus's whole time of being alive
Starting point is 00:30:57 is total political chaos. He grew up in political unrest. He grew up in the Roman Empire. Jerusalem is taken over by Rome. And Jesus is in a time where politics are, they're crazy. It honestly replicates what is happening today. And so Jesus is constantly talking about how, because Jesus is a citizen of Rome,
Starting point is 00:31:20 so he's a part of the Roman Empire. And Jesus sees that in the government of his time, in the political life and politicians of his time, it's deceitful, it's wrong, they cheat, they lie, it's evil. It's not the way that God intended it to be. And so he's telling us to call on heaven to bring the kingdom of God down to this world so that our governments can reflect the governments and the world in heaven. There's the moment in the gospels where the Pharisees come and they try to trick Jesus and they ask, they basically, I'm paraphrasing, but it's like, should we pay taxes?
Starting point is 00:31:57 Should we pay taxes to Caesar? Jesus says, bring me a coin and who's on the denarii? And they're like, it's Caesar. And he's like, okay, then in that case, pay to Caesar what is Caesar's, render to Caesar what is Caesar's, and render to God what is God's. And so he's telling him, you have to answer to both. Yeah. We answer to the government and we answer to Jesus. And ultimately, above everything else, we answer to God. But there's this tension that we're in where we don't want to get heavily involved in politics
Starting point is 00:32:27 because we don't. That's not the message of Jesus. He never called on any sort of political power. He doesn't care about political agendas. It doesn't really matter. It doesn't change his kingdomship in heaven, who's president here on earth. However, it's both and. There's another part where Jesus says,
Starting point is 00:32:45 my kingdom is not of this world. He's always differentiating between the two. My kingdom is not of this world. He reigns somewhere else, and regardless of who's president, it doesn't change whether Jesus is king or not. And so we say all that to say that politics are difficult. They're difficult to talk about. We say all that to say that politics are difficult. They're difficult to talk about. They're difficult to be involved in
Starting point is 00:33:10 because they're so triggering. They're so emotionally charged. And Ari and I love you. We love you. Jesus loves you. We're here for you. We're not here for any sort of political movement. We're here to promote biblical values.
Starting point is 00:33:28 We are. When we start to get feed into these lies, we're like, we're living in the kingdom of darkness. We have been living in it for a very long time, and enough is enough. We need to bring Jesus back into this world. We need to bring Jesus back into this world. We need to bring Him back, because I can't even imagine what He feels. We're doing whatever we want, we're living however we want.
Starting point is 00:33:53 I feel for so many people, but it's just not biblical. It's just not what God wants, and it's not how we feel, and that's how we're living in these times. We're living the way we feel and that's how we're living in these times. We're living the way we feel. And when we live in the way we feel, we're living in deception. Our world is like, it's messy and heavy. I almost feel like we're truly living in the devil's playground. And so we just need to get back to biblical roots. If I could just say anything, you need to know why you believe what you believe. Like you need to have a deep, deep, deep, deep, deep strong conviction. And I just see sometimes, what I see mostly in politics, especially within young people,
Starting point is 00:34:37 is that there's often times when people believe something or go along with some sort of agenda that's not biblical, they don't even know why they believe what they believe. They don't. And we see it in so many videos of they ask them, why do you believe that? They don't even know what to say. Hollywood is not the place where you should be getting your information. Hollywood is not where you should be forming your beliefs and opinions. And honestly, going on that stage, as much of an internal wrestle as it was, I would have been living in active disobedience
Starting point is 00:35:15 if I didn't do it. And my stances, my favorite thing is talking about how Jesus didn't need political power. I love it. I love that he was a revolutionary rebel and he did not need any of them. The Pharisees, the Sadducees, like everybody, the religious leaders and the political leaders
Starting point is 00:35:32 of his time, like he didn't need them. And that's what I rely, I just, I love it. I love it and I love to keep that same energy. And at the same time I knew not going would be me being disobedient. And it was like, I would have rather not put myself in a position to be either criticized or it's just heavy and it's a lot of people and you don't even know
Starting point is 00:35:54 if they're gonna receive what you are saying. But I like one of the most powerful stages of all time, it's like when people say that Christian shouldn't be in Hollywood and it's like, that's the most powerful place in the world. How are we not going to have people of light in there speaking to harness some, like, you know what I mean? And then, so we step onto legitimately the most powerful stage in the entire world. And I truly believe we stay true to our values and the message that we want to speak. And that's just Jesus, repent, turn from your wicked ways
Starting point is 00:36:30 and turn towards Jesus, because he loves you so much. And people talk about Christian nationalism, being a bad thing, how you add Christianity into just like a national, make it a national thing as opposed to it being individual. And like, while yes, I understand in the freedom to religion, freedom for speech, freedom for everything, just like make it a national thing as opposed to it being individual. And like, well, yes, I understand in the freedom to religion, freedom for speech, freedom for everything is the most incredible, important thing.
Starting point is 00:36:53 And you have lobbyists and donors, hundreds and hundreds and hundreds, even thousands of them in office, making decisions and having their interests and their agendas represented in the government and in policies and in laws and everything. Why would we not bring Christianity into those spaces and have our interests and our beliefs represented in the government? You know what I mean? Church and state are separate, and we need to do everything we can to have things be centered around Jesus as much as we can.
Starting point is 00:37:28 And sometimes that's stepping into spaces that don't necessarily make sense and risking division, which is all I've been praying for, that every single person who sees us there that God would open their eyes and open their hearts and see the real, real reason why we're there and the message that we're bringing. You know what I mean? And the motivation. And we're also like, you know. Is your cat having digestive issues growing up their food?
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Starting point is 00:39:31 One last time that's promo code GGB for 50% off your first order plus free shipping. I think my wrestle just like, you know, focusing on God like we're in such an interesting position. We've never done this before. We're learning to say no, what to say no to, what to say yes to. And I think I'm in a situation where there are things that feel really comfortable because they're our lane. And then there are things like this past weekend that for me were like insane, like that's
Starting point is 00:40:02 certainly not our lane. It's definitely not a GGB show or a coming on Girls Gone By, you know what I mean? And realizing that God, if he trusts you, and that's what I felt that I bawled my eyes out the whole plane ride there. I felt the delight of God all over me. And I just felt him whispering into my heart,
Starting point is 00:40:21 I trust you. I trust you. I trust that you're going to go there. And honestly, if we didn't open it in prayer, a comedian would have opened it telling jokes. You know what I mean? The opportunity to go there, regardless of whose name was in the banner, regardless of which present,
Starting point is 00:40:40 the fact that we got to go and speak on live television and speak the name of Jesus, that is our motivation. That is like, I will. And that's what it was all about for us, by the way. It was what our mindsets were. Wow, we get to go on stage and preach the name of Jesus and tell them how awesome He is and amazing He is. And not cater to the room that we're in.
Starting point is 00:41:08 That was what I was so excited about. Because I'm sure they would, you know, like I'm just, I am mostly proud that we went there, and then we walked off that stage and said, you know what, I did not fold under pressure. I did not cater to whoever was around and whoever was listening, and I didn't water anything down to make people more comfortable.
Starting point is 00:41:28 We brought the glory of God in that place. And like that was prayed for unity and love and that we would help each other and all these things. And it was just such an honor to be able to do that. And we hope that you guys can see our viewpoint and those who feel discouraged by us and understand that Angela and I really, all we want is unity and love and people to know Jesus. All we want is for people to know Jesus. And for people to follow this thing, because this is the only thing that is true and real and works.
Starting point is 00:42:04 Because this is the only thing that is true and real and works. Not to follow their own ways of living, but just follow Jesus. That's all we want. And scripture says that our citizenship is in heaven. And we wait for our Savior. This is not our true citizenship. It's not. So setting your eyes on things above and understanding Jesus is so radically against division. Jesus is so, if there's a political agenda or anything that causes division,
Starting point is 00:42:34 which is literally the world that we're living in, I promise you, if you're getting mad at your brother or sister for some sort of political something, just understand that Jesus wants nothing more than for you to lean in and love that person regardless of their beliefs. I would encourage everybody to, and I'm speaking to myself too, because I know how fired up I get, because I know there are some things,
Starting point is 00:42:59 when anything is anti-this, it hurts me deeply. And I pray that one day I will get to a place of maturity in my faith that I will never look down on the person, but I look down on the devil that has confused them and perverted their thinking and programmed them to believe things that are not the truth. But it's hard sometimes. It's hard. Sometimes you see someone who believes in something different and you know the truth, you not the truth. But it's hard sometimes. It's hard.
Starting point is 00:43:25 Sometimes you see someone who believes in something different and you know the truth, you know the truth. And I'm like, you hate it. But in those moments, I have done, I used to get, I'm just gonna say, I used to get so emotionally charged about politics. When I started following Jesus and I got super headstrong about what I believed,
Starting point is 00:43:47 what I knew to be the truth, I was probably not kind in my own heart about people who went against what I believed. I thought they were stupid, I thought they were evil, I thought they were demonic. And God has worked in the past two years, probably God has worked so much past two years, probably, God has worked so much in my heart
Starting point is 00:44:06 and being like, I don't want you to look at people like that. People don't even know why they believe what they believe sometimes, most of the time. They're programmed, they're brainwashed, they're, you know what I mean? And so if somebody has a different belief than you and you feel that division coming into your heart, remember this moment and actively combat that division,
Starting point is 00:44:26 that spirit of division, because that's what it is, and choose to love that person. Choose to love them. I love that you say that. And I felt that way so much watching some of the speakers. And it's the one thing that I wrestle with. I'm like, some of these people don't know. They don't know. And they've been through so much in their life. And these people don't know. They don't know.
Starting point is 00:44:45 And they've been through so much in their life. And they don't know better. They've been abused. We're beating people down when they simply, you don't know how someone grew up. You don't know what they've been through. You don't know how hurt they feel in their heart or how they've been taught or raised or programmed by
Starting point is 00:45:05 their parents. We don't know that. And so to come from a place of beating someone down, that isn't of God also. So if you're a Republican Christian, but you're beating someone down, well, then that's not a true follower of Jesus either. And so I love that you say that because we really do And so I love that you say that because we really do have to look at people in a lens of, wow, like that, would Jesus ever do that? He's not gonna condemn anyone for, that's why I'm like, if we just get to know Jesus, then we will, our attitudes are all gonna radically change.
Starting point is 00:45:41 We are not gonna have hate the way that this world does. And so... I love that you say that. I have a hard time with watching people just talk mean about people and why they do... It's like that is not going to get you anywhere, and that's not going to get the truth to anyone's heart. When you come from a place of hate and beating them down, that only makes them run away even more. So I pray in the name of Jesus that we come together. And even if they have this point of view that is so opposite from you, you go in your heart and you say, man, maybe they don't know better.
Starting point is 00:46:16 And that's not... You probably don't. And that's not for you to judge. That isn't. And that's same with you, like you used to get fired up. Me too. But I have met so many people, especially since Girls Gone Bible, so many walks of life, and I've heard so many stories of the pain and brokenness and how they grew up and how so many people don't know better. And it's not that they're bad and they have evil viewpoints, it's that they just don't know. And that's not for us to judge them, that's not for us to beat them down, that's for us
Starting point is 00:46:49 to let them, let Jesus deal with that. Totally, 100%. 100%. I'm so happy that you just said that because can we talk openly, honestly? Yeah. What is wrong with the world of politics? Can I ask? I've only been a lot like, was it always like that? It is the most vicious.
Starting point is 00:47:16 It's vicious. Verbally abusive. Violent. These are like the leaders of the world. They act like children. And they're all making leaders of the world. They act like children. And they're all making fun of each other and they're like doing a roast.
Starting point is 00:47:30 And I am so confused. That's why I had that moment after I was watching and I was like, I'm not, I don't stand for that. I don't like, like what? When I see like debates from both sides and I see how they're beating each other down. I have this moment of like, I see the devil in the middle of them and I'm like, if you would just look at them and say, man, okay, and you come from a place of love and actually
Starting point is 00:47:55 talk to them instead of fighting like children, they would be like, well, okay, maybe they would understand better, but like I said, when you come from a place of just fighting and evil, you will get nowhere. I don't wanna see anybody who's acting so ungodly tell me that they're a, like I can't stand it. This is what I mean by like, I am just so against people, like I love, and listen, I just had the fear of God hit me
Starting point is 00:48:27 because I realized like, I too once claimed to be a Christian when I acted in ways different. I wasn't being mean to people, but I was acting ungodly. But like, to see Christianity represented, this is my issue, to see, like, this is what's hard about it because Christianity being pushed, like it's like good and bad. It's really good because Jesus's name is being exalted and it's out there. But then if it's not authentic, then there is no transformative power in the
Starting point is 00:49:00 cross. The cross of Christ loses its power. This is my issue with just like the whole like Christian movement. It's tough. It's so tough. I don't, I refuse to be in a position where, where like we stamp Christianity on something and say that no it's not, no it's not. And treating people this way and everyone, it's just so tough. It's my biggest prayer that we will start to come to people in a place of love. We have to pray that people will start waking up and knowing what the truth is. And it's this. It's the view. It's this.
Starting point is 00:49:34 It's not what we think. It's not what you think. It's not what Republicans think. It's not what liberals think. It's not what any... It's just what God says. And that's it. I mean, that's it. We don't even need to say anything else in this episode. just what God says. And that's it. I mean, that's it. We don't even need to say anything else in this episode. We just have to follow Jesus and what the word says and stop trying to make up our own rules
Starting point is 00:49:53 and live however we want. That's where life got flipped upside down. That's what happened, basically. And that's when everything became very just divisive. Yeah, 100%. Because we wanted to make our own rules. And that's just not the way God intended us to live. He didn't intend us to make up our own rules. He intended us to live for Him. Amen.
Starting point is 00:50:18 And that's it. Preach it, baby. 100%. All hail King Jesus. That's all I have to say. All hail King Jesus. That's all I have to say. All hail King Jesus. Just want to say we love you guys so much and if you have felt any bit of division with Ari and I, just know that you are welcome here. You are loved by us. I pray that you won't leave. If you do, that's okay. We bless you in Jesus' name, and I just pray that God would be with you. But we love you, and we want you here. We want you with us. We are the body of Christ. We are not left nor right. We are citizens
Starting point is 00:50:56 of the kingdom of God, the body of Christ. You are my brothers and sisters, and I love you with everything in me. We always want to come from a place of love, and no matter what side you're on, we love you, and we are together, and just like Angela said, we're brothers and sisters, and we love you. Yeah, we love you. We love you so much. Thank you guys for being here. Thank you for loving us.
Starting point is 00:51:22 We love you so much. May the Lord bless you and keep you May he make his face to shine upon you and be gracious to you May he turn his face towards you and give you peace. We love you you

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