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So, I'm really excited about today.
We're really excited about today, yes.
As a lot of you guys know, Ari and I wrote a devotional, and it's right here.
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and just a lot of things about it. So writing this devotional for Ari and I was just
insane. It was so fun. It was so beautiful, and it was really emotional.
As a lot of you guys know, we've talked about it, but basically it's 31 devotions, 31 days
of scripture, of a story from our lives, an anecdote, a moment in time where Ari and I
experience something, where we're in the wilderness, where we experience hardship, and then we
kind of take you through like the mistakes that we've made,
the wrong ways in which we were brought up,
the bad things that happened that were out of our control,
and just where Jesus was in that.
And I think that's just such a beautiful way to heal,
is to go back to different times of your life, address it, feel it, move through it,
and then see where Jesus was in that, you know?
Yeah, and I think it's, it was so, what's special about this book is we were in the middle of a lot of what we were writing.
I'm excited to talk to you today about this specific devotional, because I know that you were in the middle of it.
Yeah.
It's something you're still walking through. And so I'm really excited because I know so many people
that are battling this and I just know it's going to bless
and free so many people today knowing they're not alone.
So I'm excited to talk to you about this today
and just listen.
Thanks, Ar.
Yeah.
Yeah, so today I want to take you guys through one of my devotionals,
devotions or devotionals. I just want to, and this one is called Overcoming Disordered Eating.
So I, you, a lot of you know that I've been on a really long journey with disordered eating,
and what's so interesting about writing a book is that you write a book and then a year later, you're like,
hmm, I'm in such a different place, I would write this differently, I'd say this, I actually don't even agree.
Not that I don't agree with this anymore, but I think about things differently.
My relationship with Jesus, obviously, hopefully has progressed and developed and established more that
you're just different, you mature.
And so, I look back on even this devotional about disordered eating,
and I was writing from the moment in time that I was in.
And when you read this devotional, you kind of see that it's like, it's hopeful.
There's a lot of hope in it, because I had just received incredible, supernatural, miraculous breakthrough
in my eating disorder, which I will get to.
And I have some things I want to tell you guys
and some things that I am ready to share that I wasn't ready to share before.
But so Ari and I also recorded the audiobook for this.
And when I was doing the audiobook, I got to this part, I didn't
cry in any of them, right? I wasn't super emotional about them. And then I got to this
one, my eating disorder devotional, and I actually started to get ministered to by God.
I started getting touched by the presence of God, by the Spirit of God as I was reading. Not because these
are my words and I'm emotional about this thing that I'm recounting. I actually got
touched by the Holy Spirit through my own words as if I wasn't the one who wrote them.
I needed hope the day I went in.
Wow.
I wrote from a place of hope because that's where I was at. I had hope.
And since then, sometimes after like big breakthroughs,
you're on like a high almost, and it's amazing.
And then you then find yourself in a different difficult place
and then you forget.
You forget what God brought you out of.
You forget the beautiful things that have happened.
And so I'm reading this and like hope of Jesus actually fills my heart.
And so I say that to say, I'm not saying that this is the best book you'll ever read.
I'm not saying that we're the most incredible writers.
All I'm saying is that the Holy Spirit wrote these words.
And we're not the most gifted people, but like, the Holy Spirit spoke, and
like, these are real life stories, and I just, I can't believe like, the power of God. He
ministered to me through my own words as if I didn't write them. You know, like, I had
no connection to the person, like, it was just Jesus speaking, so.
Anyway, so I just, we want to take you through it a little bit, right? This is day 25.
It's called Overcoming Disordered Eating.
And I gave a scripture.
It's 1 Samuel 16, 7.
The Lord said to Samuel, do not consider his appearance or his height, for I have rejected
him.
The Lord does not look at the things people look at.
People look at the outward appearance, but the Lord looks at the heart." And then Psalm 139, 14 says,
I praise you because you are fearfully and wonderfully made.
Your works are wonderful. I know that full well.
And then I go on to give an explanation in context about the scriptures that I wrote,
talking about David. And I go on to write, it says from Angela,
because Ari will have a day, then I'll have a day, and it says,
I often think of the younger version of myself, the one who began to be aware of her body way earlier than she should have,
the one who was only seven years old, trying to starve herself so she could look skinny at the community pool. A child looking in the mirror, picking herself apart, and pointing out everything she hated
about herself.
I have sat and had so many conversations with God, asking Him why and when this started,
who made a comment they shouldn't have, who judged my appearance, who made me feel
like I wasn't good enough, and how, how God has it stuck with me all these years
later. My complicated relationship with food began
as early as I can remember. I'd started going on crash diets when I was in middle school
and in high school I would take medications that would ruin my appetite so I wouldn't
eat. This was my normal and continued until my mid-twenties. I've battled a decade-long silent war in my relationship
to my body and to food." And so, and then it goes on and then we have a part where then
we lead you in prayer and then there's like a space for you to write your own prayer and
your own thoughts. And yeah, a lot of you know that I've had a really,
really crazy battle just with food and body image
and just like my relationship to my body
and my relationship to food.
And it's been really hard.
And like,
when,
I've done a lot of things in my life that I'm ashamed of. And shame is so funny because you can be ashamed of things that other people are like, why
are you so ashamed of that?
There's so much shame attached.
Like, I could talk about my past all day long now.
Something happened in that like shame and past episode where just my heart was open to
the fact that like, I have to, I have to like talk about things. I have to talk about things that are
like so shameful. Like if there's something that you are in a conversation and it's the one thing
that you don't share, like it's the one thing you need to share, you know? And so I battled a almost 10-year-long battle with bulimia.
And it is so just insane to think about all that I went through in almost 10 years and
how along the way a couple people would know, a couple people would be told or even like
find out.
But for the most part, like it was silent. It was completely, I was alone in it.
I didn't tell anybody,
mostly because I didn't want anybody
to try to get me to stop.
Like, you know what I mean?
I didn't want anybody.
And I was just so deeply ashamed.
I'll never forget the first time I was, I believe, 19.
And I was 18 or 19 and I was in college
and me and my friend from college went out to dinner.
And this is not her fault by any means.
This is just like girls, people, this is what happens.
You influence people without even meaning to.
And we had like just eaten dinner and we were both so full. And she had
told me like, I said something like, Oh, I'm so full. Like I hate right. I had been struggling
with body stuff and starving myself my whole life practically, but never this. This was
like to like purge, to binge and purge, to like throw up on purpose, um purpose to remove food out of your stomach in order to not gain weight.
Like that was not even on my radar.
I didn't know that even really people did that.
And this, my friend at the time, she goes,
you know the one way, she goes, you know the best way,
or like, what did she say?
Like it was just so, it stuck with me all these years.
She was like, you want to,
you know the best thing you can do.
You can eat as much as you want
and then you can go throw up.
And I literally, my mind,
like just like the dysfunction in my mind already goes,
this is amazing.
This is an escape.
It's a way out.
It's a cheat code.
It's like, so that and that began.
And like, I went through that in college.
I, you know, went through just a really insane battle
for 10 years that I can't even believe I'm talking about.
I thought it was the one thing
that I would never talk about.
So proud of you.
I love you.
It's just so, it was so shameful for me and it still is.
It feels so embarrassing.
And I was just, I hated it and it was an addiction.
It was an addiction and it was like the control that I struggle with.
I got to a point like our bodies are meant to have like a mind body connection.
Like your brain knows when you're full, your brain knows when you're hungry,
and when you suffer with eating disorders,
like you cut off that connection.
So my, and still to this day,
I don't have full mind-body connection
where my body gets like food-sick cues
that like you're hungry or you're full.
Wow.
I can eat a banana, I can eat anything. I can eat a banana.
I can eat anything.
I can eat a protein bar and feel like I've just
had a three course meal.
I don't have that connection that other people do.
Why is that?
Because you're just, you abuse your body.
When you abuse your body, you sever it
because you're not allowing your body to do the normal thing that it does, where it like, you stop, you sever it because you're not letting your, allowing your body to do
the normal thing that it does where it like, you stop when you're full and you eat when
you're hungry.
I would like not eat when I was full and then I would continue to eat even if I was full
and say, oops, did it again.
I'm going to go take care of it.
I can't even really say like throw up yet.
I'm still like, it's just like really, it's so hard.
It was such a devastating, like dark, it's just crazy. Almost 10 years.
Did you ever, were you in so much shame that you didn't even talk to God about it?
It wasn't until I...
My first few years of my relationship with Jesus,
it was like the one thing,
it was almost like I had bigger fish to fry.
So I was like, I was so anxious, I had so much anxiety,
I was so mentally unwell that that was just like,
it wasn't until probably I was like 25, 26,
where he started to speak and be like,
we have to address this, we have to, right?
Like he gave me patience and grace,
but it was just so crazy.
I was like, I had no food or like hunger cues.
I didn't know when I was full.
Then it became like a control thing
where I became so hyper aware of how full I was,
because I was never full, because either I wouldn't eat or I would throw up what I ate,
even if it wasn't like bad, even if like I just, I then my brain conditioned me to think that if I,
like you feel full and it's like, this is beautiful, great, like I meant to feel full.
Feeling full was bad for me.
So no matter what I ate, like, sometimes there were times
where it was like multiple times a day.
Like, it was really, really scary and really bad
and I couldn't control myself.
It was crazy.
It was an addiction.
It was a coping mechanism and it was horrible.
And so I wanna take you guys through, I got
my journal yesterday, and I've only journaled for this one period of time, for like seven
months, and I need to start journaling again because I discovered so much about myself.
So I write this devotional right after, maybe like three months after I didn't throw up for the last time, or I threw up for the last time.
I had fasted and prayed for probably a year about this.
So, just like with alcohol, I prayed for six months before I was delivered from it and I never drank again.
When was this?
So, that was the alcohol.
This would have been, I don't have the exact date, but I was trying for a long time.
I was trying for a year.
I would go weeks without doing it.
I would go a month without doing it.
And then I'd fall back into it and I'd write about it in my journal.
It was just like this, it was this cycle.
And I was trying not to.
I was trying to break free.
And I was praying and I was fasting for a long time
because it was so deeply ingrained in who I was
that it wasn't just an option of just like stop.
It was who I was.
It was a part of my everyday.
My mind became, and I don't know all the psychology
behind bulimian eating disorders,
but I just want to read a couple of these.
This is February 2nd, 2024. So this
was a year and like three months ago now. So last night was my birthday dinner and dot
dot dot. I didn't throw up exclamation points. We're in Nashville here.
Wow. And I had no idea any of this. Yeah.
So Ari didn't know this yet.
I actually told her.
Recently.
I told her after.
I couldn't tell anybody until I knew I beat it,
because I was so, I didn't know if it would come back.
I didn't know if I would ever do it again.
And so I waited until I knew for sure that like, yeah.
So I told Ari recently.
I was so deep in shame that I couldn't even that like, yeah. So I told Ari recently, I was so deep in shame
that I couldn't even tell my best friend.
That's how much I was just so embarrassed.
I can't believe this was in Nashville, my heart.
Yeah.
So I said, I was trying so hard to get free.
Like, you know, I didn't want to do it.
I was like.
We were in Nashville together.
Yeah, on my birthday, remember we went to the Send and we went to that restaurant with Ali and Ashley.
I was so proud of myself.
I was working through like eating a meal and then not throw, like, it's crazy.
So last night was my birthday dinner and I didn't throw up exclamation points.
Wow, Jesus, it was really cool.
I felt the Holy Spirit's empowerment and it felt really good.
I just felt a calmness about it. Like every time a thought came, the Holy Spirit tore it down
immediately. If you could just help me in this area though Jesus, so I don't focus too much on
the negative because I see so much how you have moved so much and I'm so grateful.
I know it's my birthday but my stomach hurt after. I don't want to feel like that.
Can you help me on that, Jesus?
Like a surgeon, go into my brain.
Can you train my brain not to stress so much
when I'm bloated?
Like, it's really not that big of a deal.
And then I go forward.
And then this was a moment where, so I was in Nashville and I had like gone through I
think a couple of months.
I love you.
It's crazy.
I had gone through a couple of months of I think I was free and then this is a moment
where I fell into it again.
This is February 6th, 2024. Hi Jesus. I almost feel like I'm coming to you with my tail between my legs.
So I had my birthday in Nashville and I did not throw up the whole week.
It was absolutely incredible. I felt such an empowerment from the Holy Spirit.
I just felt like I had overcome it. The thought would come into my mind and then it would just pass by.
I didn't feel out of control. But then I can't say had overcome it. The thought would come into my mind, and then it would just pass by. I didn't feel out of control.
But then, I can't say exactly what it was,
but I was listening to a phone call
about a family member that was really hard for me.
And so I got really triggered, my anxiety got triggered,
and I wanted right to go somewhere that would help me cope.
And then there was such a wrestle within my heart. I got in the car and I was still wrestling.
I was contemplating and debating in my head. It's honestly really sad to think about. I didn't want to do it.
I was trying not to, but then someone called me. It was the perfect storm. Something happened with this person.
And it just sent me over the edge. I'm not using it as an excuse, but it was miserable.
I'm paying for it today. So much shame and guilt.
Jesus, I have a question. I didn't ruin all the progress, right?
I can still have that empowerment from the Holy Spirit.
I repent from the sin. I turn from it.
I ask for your forgiveness, Lord Jesus. Please forgive me, Father.
And now send me your Holy Spirit to help me.
I can't do this on my own. I need you, Jesus. I need your help. I'm never going to binge and throw up again.
I decree and declare right now that I am free from the all-or-nothing mentality in Jesus' name."
And then...
Okay.
Jesse, do you have tissues?
That's so sad. I know.
Oh my god, I didn't know that.
Thank you.
I know.
Alright.
I didn't know you were going to read that.
I'm sorry.
I documented my whole wrestle and my whole struggle.
Wow.
It was such a fight.
It felt like I was fighting for my life. I can't believe it. Sorry, I documented my whole wrestle and my whole struggle. Wow.
It was such a fight.
I was fighting.
It felt like I was fighting for my life.
I can't believe I didn't know it.
I know.
It's okay.
Are you okay with this?
Yeah.
Okay.
It's crazy when you read that,
how much, just how the enemy works with the shame,
being like, it's okay, right?
Like, I made progress, am I gonna be punished?
I repent.
Yeah, it's so, the shame cycle is shame is a killer.
And I, and so another thing, something that happens
from bulimia from throwing up is your face gets super puffy.
And so if you look back at the podcast,
my face looks like completely different.
And that was one of the hardest parts of it for me
because I felt internal shame
and then I felt like I wore the shame on my face.
Like every time I looked in the mirror,
I was reminded of what I was doing
and what I didn't have control over.
And I hated how I looked for vanity purposes.
Like I was miserable.
Remember I would tell you, I'd be like,
I feel so ugly and I wouldn't tell you why.
And you'd be like, what are you talking about?
And I'd be like, I hate my face.
Like I hate how I look.
And like, that's why this was happening.
And February 18th, I said, Jesus,
I was doing so good with the eating.
I was having meals, trying a bite of everything, and then leaving it at that.
And then all of a sudden, I let it happen at once.
And then it's like I fully lose control.
I'm starting to like study and watch what happens.
It really is the scripture where when the seven come back stronger, but it is getting
better.
That I can say.
But also the shame and guilt are getting
stronger as well. And as awful as it is, I'm thinking it's a good thing. I'm glad that I see
myself differently afterwards. It's becoming less and less. They're throwing up. We're beating it,
and hell is so mad about it. Thank you for all you do for me, Jesus. Seriously, I love being teammates.
I love being team Jesus. I love our relationship. I love you." And then the next day I said,
Father, I had two rough days of eating. I'm feeling super insecure and self-conscious about my face,
the puffiness. What do you think? Can we take away the shame and guilt and have me start over fresh
and have me a hun- and have me- I wanted Jesus to miraculous me, make me not puffy.
and have me, I wanted Jesus to miraculous me, make me not puffy.
I wanted him to like, and he said,
and I said, or is it a good reminder to not do it again?
I was in this like, I wasn't accepting his love.
I wasn't accepting grace.
I thought that he, I thought that he was punishing me
and I was like inflicting his punishment on myself.
Like I didn't understand yet that he's like,
I love you so much, just come, let me take care of it.
I was like, I deserve punishment, I'm here.
Like I didn't even have a right understanding of who he was.
Wow, isn't it so crazy?
So this is February 22nd.
God, without you, I truly live in hell on earth.
Like it's actually insane.
Being here in New York, that's when we were in New York,
being here in New York should have felt fun, but I truly feel miserable, bound.
God, I've been so bound by binging and I'm wearing it on my face,
and it's absolutely killing me. I see the sin when I look at myself. I feel hideous,
but I feel like I deserve to feel this way. Jesus, I'm so ashamed, so much shame, for
all the binging, absolutely out of control. I know I can't be possessed because of the
Holy Spirit, but it literally feels like possession. Please, Jesus, I want to obey Your command. I hate this sin. I don't want it.
I'm begging You, Father. You know what I love? I've never had a right relationship with the Father,
but I always talked to the Father when I needed Him in this area.
Like, I knew He'd come and I knew He'd do it.
Bring it to a close. Put an end to this toxic cycle of binging. I need help.
I surrender this to you and I tell you that I can't overcome it without you.
I don't have the strength of the tools. Father, I'm asking you to provide the way for escape from me.
Bring me the tools and resources. Bring me the help I need. Help me.
I've come to the end of myself. I was so out of control. I never want to deal with this again.
I said, don't remove your hand. Cover me in Ari Jesus, protect us, cover us in your blood.
It was always you. Don't remove your hand from my life, Father. I need you, Jesus.
I thought that he was going to remove his hand from my life.
I know. He thought he was so mad at you.
I thought he hated me for this.
I need you Jesus. Bring me close.
I'm staying pure. I'm staying obedient.
I'm staying pure, Jesus.
Please don't take your hand from me.
Dear Jesus, God, I need you so badly.
How do I get this stronghold off of me? Take your hand from me. Dear Jesus, God, I need You so badly.
How do I get this stronghold off of me?
Jesus, I am binging and throwing up
such an uncontrollable amount.
The past two weeks have literally been nonstop.
My face is huge.
I don't even recognize myself.
Please, Jesus, help me get help.
Who do I tell?
Please, Jesus, You've helped me
with everything up until now.
I just called a Christian counselor with tears in my eyes. I actually feel a little bit of hope.
I feel a glimmer of hope. Do people actually ever recover from this? I am battling a violent eating disorder alone. Not a single person knows it. It's time to end. I'm so tired of feeling shame.
I am done with living in secrecy. The enemy's hold on me is coming to an end. I rebuke Satan in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth.
I am overcoming this. Kill the sin Jesus. Kill the addiction.
I love you so much Lord.
March 7th.
I love you so much God. Thank you for who you are.
Wow, I almost bing much God, thank you for who you are.
Wow, I almost binged after dinner last night and I received empowerment from you not to.
I literally overcame the temptation through power from your spirit.
It was such a good feeling. Resist the devil and he will flee from you.
No temptation has overtaken you that is uncommon to man.
Sin is crouching
at the door. You're eager to control you, but you must subdue it and become its master."
I'm just repeating scripture.
When was this?
That was March 7th. So this is about a month before I stop. I don't know when this is.
This is a little while later. Hi, God. Today is the definition of coming boldly to the throne of grace. I need mercy.
I need help. Jesus, I've really failed the past few days. My face is practically disfigured.
I feel like I'm crawling out of my skin with shame. I'm so disappointed and I feel so out of
control. I need you. I need the Holy Spirit. I need help. I'm coming to you on my hands and knees, nose to the floor,
broken and ashamed, but I'm not running from you. I'm coming to you. I need you, Father. Please wrap
your arms around me. Release me from this shame, Father. Kill this sin. Give me self-control.
I receive your help today, God. I repent from this sin. I hate it. It is my enemy. I hate it.
I come out of agreement with binge eating, bulimia, and I turn from it, never I hate it. It is my enemy. I hate it. I come out of agreement with binge eating,
bulimia, and I turn from it, never to return again."
April 2nd, 2024. Since that last one, which was in March, I had never wrote about bulimia again.
By April 2nd, God, together we'll overcome every sin and temptation.
Thank you for healing my eating disorder.
This area stays under the blood of Jesus.
By His stripes I am healed.
Miracle working Jesus.
And I never wrote about it again. So that is how you
beat something. That's how you fight through something. Like I was reading this yesterday
and feeling like I was going through hell and I kept trying and I kept going and I kept saying,
I know, I know I'm going to this, I know Jesus is gonna free me.
And it didn't happen overnight. I fought so hard for what felt like a really long time
and through fasting and prayer and falling down and getting back up and it's just so insane.
First of all, I just want to thank you because you don't understand like her even telling me
was one of the hardest things she had to do.
So for you to sit up here today and, like,
read a journal and...
be so vulnerable and so brave to speak on
one of the most embarrassing things
that you've ever had to go through and shameful things
Yeah
to help these people
Yeah
It's just, um
I'm just so, so, so proud of you and
I know Jesus is looking down at you being like,
that's my girl I love you is looking down at you, being like, that's my girl.
I love you so much.
And you've been that seed for me of,
no matter what comes your way, like you fight,
you fight and you don't run from him.
And you never have to every single hard battle in your life.
And that's why I have been able to fight so hard
in my own life.
I love you so much. And I know that's why so have been able to fight so hard in my own life. I love you so much.
And I know that's why so many other people are able to fight so hard.
Because you're strength. You're the definition of strength.
And so, thank you.
I love you so much.
Amazing.
I just know how hard this is for you.
So, I don't know. It's amazing. I just know how hard this is for you.
So I don't know.
It's amazing.
You're amazing.
And boy have you beat it.
And I know you're still walking through some stuff, but...
But I never did it again.
I stopped that one last time and I remember being like, I don't remember, I don't remember
what time it was.
I don't remember the moment it was.
I don't remember. But I remember having a couple weeks of being like,
am I free?
But like not fully knowing if I was, but being like,
there was a moment where I really knew, like, I'm never doing this again.
And it's like the alcohol, I will never do it again.
I've never had, not that I haven't had the temptation,
like there have been moments where I felt really full,
but my mind has never gone there
even one time in over a year.
Can you take us through the process,
because I know you wrote through,
you wrote through like what was happening
and like how you felt shame, you kept going back,
but can you take us through the process of like,
the end of it, like the day you were like, it is finished.
Can you just take us through that process? Because so many girls are just probably watching, being like,
I can't, how do I beat this? I keep saying I'm gonna stop and then I don't. Take us through the process.
Well, and I don't remember the last time. I don't remember the last day. I remember the time.
I remember it was before John came into my life. I remember it was like, I remember it was during that time.
But this is how I fought. I fought through prayer. I fought through scripture. I fought through fasting and praying.
And I just knew that I had a stronghold. And I knew that I had done this for like six, seven years
before Jesus came into my life and started being like,
what is going on?
And so when you do something for such a long time,
you have to fight to the end to get free from it.
And like Jesus fights, right?
But like you partner with him in fighting.
I had to fight.
I fought on my knees.
I fought in prayer.
And for every person that's listening,
my whole point in doing this today
is because first of all, I needed to release this.
I needed to get free,
because I was still bound with shame.
I was so embarrassed, John, a little early on in our relationship.
This was so, I don't know why this is the most embarrassing thing in the world for me,
more than anything. I'm so, it's just like, there's gluttony involved.
There's, it's bad, like it's not good. It's horrible.
And it's just like devastating what it does to
your body. There are people who die from this type of stuff. And so first of all, I needed
to be released from the shame that like my whole testimony, my whole testimony is worth
sharing because look what Jesus did. Look what He did. I literally have proof of what He did in my life.
And it's so insane. And like, I just think about the way that I talked to Him.
They weren't these incredible prayers. His desire is that we talk to Him, that we'd write and be like,
God, why is this happening? Do you think this is okay? What do you think about this?
Like, it was just so innocent and so...
What was the shift for you?
There's something so sweet that I wrote about you.
Oh, what was the shift for you about how God viewed you with this whole thing?
I think I'm still working through that where, and I've had so much break, it's, I'm telling
you, the shame and past episode, all of that opened me up to my whole life changed.
It changed my entire life.
We had an episode on perfectionism, my perfectionism and thinking that I needed to be perfect,
and that I had to like, it's not like I ever really upheld an image because I was honest,
but like the really, really bad struggles were such a weakness for me.
Like it felt like I had such an idol of being strong, and like it was so much pride that like,
I could never admit to anybody
that I was going through this, because Jesus saved my life. How can you go through this
if I'm preaching about a Jesus who saved my life? But this is the reality. We're two girls
who sit on a podcast, who do walk the talk and live the life that God has called us to
live, and we struggle every single day of our lives. And we fall every day, and we go through things. And Jesus did save our lives, and it's a lifelong
process, especially if you're in our position where we didn't have this our whole life.
You know what I mean? We just came into this. We just realized who He is and what He does.
So it was through that. I always knew Jesus loved me,
but you read my journal and every time I sin,
every time I do something, I ask Him,
please don't take your hand from me.
It's not who He is.
It's not who He is.
He's literally being like, oh, it's my desire
to love you in this moment.
It's my desire to comfort you in your sin.
It's my desire to love you in this moment. It's my desire to comfort you in your sin.
It's my desire to literally wrap my arms around you
when you've made the biggest mistake of your life.
You know, and like, me struggling with bulimia didn't make me a bad person.
It didn't make me less of a Christian.
It didn't make me like, I just struggled.
Like, you know, I was just struggling.
I just, I say this to say, like, you're not alone if you're going through this. I
know bulimia is the one thing that people don't share. It's not the one thing. There
are a couple of those, but it's one of the things that people don't share. And it's just
like, you guys, you fight on your knees. You fight your heart out. Journal to Him. Talk
to Him. Do you want to know why I got emotional in my own devotional?
I didn't mention the bulimia. I would have never done it at that time.
Ari asked me a couple months ago, maybe two months ago, she said,
I think you should share it. And I was like, I can't do that.
Like, I can't do that. And she's like, I think you should share it.
I'm encouraging you. Like, there are a lot of people who need to hear what you have to say about this.
And I was like, yeah, maybe. In my head, I was like, I will never do that.
And it literally wasn't until last week I got down in my quiet time, and the devotional came into my mind,
and I felt God be like, it's time. This is like another area of shame
that I can't live with shame anymore about anything.
I don't want to.
This is who I am, it's who I've been,
it's what I've struggled with.
And I'm running towards Jesus
and there's a lot has happened along the way.
And it's like, so yeah.
I'm so proud of you.
I see it.
Can you, will you walk me through just your journey now with it all, with eating disorder,
with it all, the struggles?
Yeah.
Thank you for asking.
I think like after I, so like, right, I beat the bulimia.
Jesus beat the bulimia.
I just stopped one day.
It feels like supernatural deliverance because my mind never went there again. Ever. Ever.
It's like crossed my mind, like, just as a thought, but never a temptation. I've never—
I used to feel a gravitational pull towards the bathroom if I felt full. Like I'd feel my body doing something
that my mind wasn't even allowing.
I've never felt that pull since April of last year,
whenever it was.
Not one time have I felt that pull,
not one time have I, I came out of agreement with it.
That's what it is, it's agreement.
Like it's a spiritual agreement that takes place.
I was in agreement with bulimia,
I was in agreement with bulimia. I was in agreement
with alcohol. And then God comes and He breaks it through a year of prayer and fasting.
I talked to Stephanie at one point. She's open, she's dealt with stuff like that, and
so I talked to her about it. I did talk to a couple of people who I...
Stopped hiding. But it needed to be someone who understood. And so probably, right, maybe in my mind,
I felt like you would have, even though I know you would have understood,
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Jesus did it. It would have happened a lot sooner had I let someone in.
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My mind-body connection has gone a lot better.
Now it's just like, now it's just control.
So I am gonna see like a eating disorder specialist
because now I've just realized
there's a lot of shame attached to food.
Now I stay away from it completely
because of what I've been through.
As you stay away from food?
Like I stay away from, you know, my control.
I stay away from bad food.
I stay away from, I have safe foods.
Like I have all those things
that I've talked about in the past.
Now it's time for, like Jesus is healing me.
And He's gonna heal me through deep inner work,
through counseling. I talked to heal me through deep inner work, through counseling.
I talked to a specialist and she was like, I explained to her everything,
and she believes that there are key moments in childhood where everything is wrapped up in.
That if we could pinpoint those moments, talk through them, invite Jesus in,
that they would unravel a knot being untied.
Wow.
Because that's where everything begins. So I say all this to say, I let you into my journaling
of the way I fought with Jesus, begged Him, and I encourage you guys to fight with Jesus.
Whatever you're battling, whether it's bulimia or whatever, I would, I'm not saying I did it perfectly by any means,
but just like the real raw desperation of begging Jesus to help you, coming out of agreement,
saying, I've fallen once again, but I'm coming directly to you and understanding that just
because you don't get free right away does not mean you will never be free. I literally wrote,
Jesus, could it be that
somebody actually does recover from this? I never saw a world in, and even right now I say to Him,
Jesus, is there a world in which I don't have control over food? I don't see that yet.
But I'm believing for it because I have history with Him, you know?
And not sit in the shame.
That's the worst.
Can you just talk about that for a minute?
and the shame. That's the worst.
Can you just talk about that for a minute?
How being open about shame has freed your heart.
Yeah, yeah.
What happened with that past and shame episode, like all of that stuff that happened,
the darkest, probably worst time of my entire life, I can't even begin to explain
what that was like.
It was the best thing that's ever happened to me.
How? How? How can it be that Genesis 50-20 really is as true as it is?
That whatever the enemy meant for evil, God will use for good. It opened me up to a world that I went so long saying I don't have shame.
I have shame about everything. I have shame in every area.
That's the root of all of my issues. Everything literally comes down to shame.
And this was something that was finally like, it was just time.
It was just time to be like, first of all, everybody goes through things.
Everybody's dealing with something that's as embarrassing for me as bulimia was.
You know what I mean?
And yeah, it was just so sitting in the shame, coming to Jesus every single time
and saying, I'm not going to resort to hiding in shame.
I'm coming going to resort to hiding and shame. I'm coming
directly to you. And just fighting and praying and begging Him and believing in faith, like you're
already doing it. Pray like this, you're already doing it. I'm already free. And it's not a bad
thing if you go back. It doesn't mean that all the progress is gone. It doesn't mean that you
weren't healed to begin with. It just is the natural flow of the Christian walk, is that we all fall short of the glory
of God. But He is good and He's faithful. And yeah.
And I'll just say it one more time. One of the most courageous things you did in this
walk was say, you know what? I'm not keeping this in the dark anymore. And you started
to tell people you could trust. And then through that, you know what happened?
The person that she opened up to said,
you know what's crazy?
I dealt with that too.
And how less alone did you feel?
You felt like you could probably breathe.
Like, wow, this person that I look up to
actually battles with this too.
It's so crazy.
You had no idea of this, with this too. It's so crazy.
Like, you had no idea of this, right?
Yeah, yeah.
It's crazy.
Thanks for listening.
I... this was so beautiful.
I was... I've been patiently waiting for you to be like, I'm ready.
She's been really patient. Ari's been a rider and being like,
Ange, it's okay, whenever the time is right,
but I think you should do it.
You've been such a good encourager of just,
but you, right, you do this so well.
You're just like, here I am.
Here I am.
And like, it's, I've learned so much from you
in this area, so much.
You've taught me so much about being open
and about being honest and about being like,
it doesn't make you less of a person that you struggle.
It doesn't make you less of a woman of God that you struggle.
You don't have to be perfect.
You've taught me so much.
Thank you.
You taught me so much through this episode.
You taught me so much reading this episode. You know, you taught me so much reading your journal.
It sounded a lot like me,
because I oftentimes feel like I'm just like,
like I felt like I was reading my own words.
I'm sure so many of you guys do too,
but just having you be like, are you mad at me?
Like, are you going to take your hand off me?
Like, how many times do we do that?
Yeah.
When we're just like not, I don't know.
When you're just struggling.
When you're struggling, you just feel like, God, I'm going to be condemned for this one.
Yeah. Yeah.
And I just read in that the whole time, I was just like, He loves you so much.
So it just kind of like helped me in that moment be like, He loves me so much.
Like, we do think, you know?
Yeah. Well, because He's like, He hates sin, and He doesn't tolerate sin,
but He has more compassion than anything.
Like, He has more compassion in His heart for us than He has hatred for sin.
Like, He understands why we go through the things we go through.
That's not an allowance to keep doing it.
But He wasn't ever allowing me
to keep doing what I was doing, but He was in it. He was right there. He knows, even if I don't know
where it came from, even if I don't know who said something to me when I was younger, who shamed me
about food, who even comforted me with food. That's another thing about like binge eating,
bulimia, eating disorders, is that even comforting children with food.
It's just like food is a beautiful necessity,
basic need of life.
And there actually shouldn't be negative emotion
ever attached to it.
You know what I mean?
To comfort a child, I just feel like probably
someone said something about my body,
about how much I was eating.
Yeah, there's just so many things.
And it's a sickness.
It is a sickness and an addiction.
It's a sickness.
It's like you weren't doing anything bad.
You were literally, it was a sickness.
I wanted to say one more thing.
Can I ask you one more thing?
I don't know if this is too personal, but I'm interested in this.
Yeah.
What do you think about struggling with food addiction and fasting?
Yeah. Really good question. I've had, I've thought about this a lot. I think you have to be really mature in your faith,
and mature emotionally, and very aware.
Because I would be lying if I said there haven't been times in my life that I spent the weekend eating a good amount,
and then saying, I'm going to go on a fast for Jesus.
Or getting on a scale after a two-day fast that was meant to be just
spiritual. I'm very aware of, and that's like spiritual manipulation, and it's like almost
spiritual abuse in a sense, because I take that really seriously, and I'm not saying that I haven't gotten it wrong. Of course I have.
And God convicts my heart very, very, very heavily because it's just like, I have like
fear of God in me where I'm just like, that scares me to say I'm doing something for God, but I'm actually doing it because I want to get thin. So just like being aware and like having so much reverence and so much fear
and like being really honest with yourself. So, Lisa Bevere, she struggled with bulimia as well.
And she has a quote where she's like, God told me the difference between dieting and fasting,
dieting changes the way you look, fasting changes the way you see.
Mm.
And so for my situation, I think someone who deals with...
I'm careful because I haven't studied this in depth,
and so, right, I'm going based off what I believe...
I think I know, but I feel like when you are starving yourself and when you're anorexic,
I imagine fasting is not helpful.
I imagine it's not wise.
I think in my position, because I was dealing with a gluttonous spirit, because I would
oftentimes overeat, I... My flesh, I needed to starve my flesh.
I needed to be full of Jesus. I needed to be fed by Jesus so that the gluttony would
go so that I wouldn't, because there was so much like noise around food in my head that
I needed to starve. I needed it to starve so my flesh would starve, so Jesus would have priority in my mind.
Do you know what I mean?
After that day you fasted, was that done?
So I fasted a lot over a year. Like, I fasted once a week, actually, with the intention of
not overeating, not binging, and not purging.
Okay.
So that's why, but yeah, you need wisdom. You need to be careful. I even, yeah,
I want everybody to use wisdom and I want you to be plugged into a local church where
you have a pastor and somebody to talk to who knows you, who knows how you work, who
knows your, because I've made a lot of mistakes in my journey. I've done things that I look
back and I'm like, that wasn't the wisest thing to do. So, and we're all different and
what works for me might not work for you.
This is just my journey. This is what happened for me is that I needed something,
it needed to starve out of me, the fleshy obsession around food.
Yeah, and I would just say just to anybody, what was your other question? I was just going to ask you what tools you use.
Can you give us some tools on, I don't know,
for instance, if you go to dinner
and like the obsessive compulsive starts
and you're beating yourself up because the shame hits,
because that's what the, you know, it's just this journey.
Can you give us some tools on how you overcome that?
How you deal with that?
What can somebody do when they...
I know.
Yeah.
It's such an emotional and spiritual thing.
I think the best thing to do, what I do, and there's no right answer that miraculously
takes away these... I mean, yes, Jesus miraculously can, anyways, it's not
like a perfect remedy that causes you to not go through that.
I still go through that.
Sometimes I'm really fine.
I'm actually surprised at my own breakthrough.
This weekend, I, good, and I really, I had moments, but I was like not, it's like, it's intimacy with Jesus.
Like, it's literally like you find it in the secret place before you ever go out to dinner.
You get fed, you get filled.
Jesus renews your mind.
There are thought patterns that need to break and change.
You read the Word.
All the things that we already tell you guys to do, you start with that first.
You spend time with Jesus.
And like, every time I eat, for the most part,
like saying grace for me isn't just like praying a prayer. It's like a conscious thing of like,
hey, you and I are about to have a meal together and I need you to bless this food in my body.
And I need to have like a right perspective on this meal. I always pray before meals.
I always pray before eating something. And then if I either eat too much
or my mind is tricking me thinking I ate too much
when really I just had a little piece of chicken,
I just pray, I invite Jesus in.
And sometimes I forget to pray.
And sometimes I don't wanna bother Him with that prayer.
And it makes me so mad.
Over the weekend, I had a moment that was hard.
I went into the bathroom and I had a moment
where I was like, hey, I'm overthinking. I'm not feeling that good about it. I'm not feeling that good
in my body right now. We just speak any truth. Speak truth. And that's what I
consistently ask Jesus to do, specifically to speak truth because the enemy is lying.
He's lying. Your body's lying. Your eyes are lying, and you need the truth of God.
And He speaks, He does. He'll change your thoughts. And it is a journey that you go
on and you just keep inviting Him. Like we read in this journal, you continue to invite
Him, and the temptation is not to include Him. For some reason, you do something wrong,
you're not feeling good. Why is it that we don't include the one person
who can fix the problem?
I don't know.
And I also talk to people now.
You do, I was going to say that.
I think that's what's so great,
and that's why you're healing as fast as you are.
There's been many times where you've been like,
are, can you talk to me for a second? And it's always like it's literally, she's like, it's like looking at myself sometimes.
But you know, and you just find people that you trust that love you, that's not
going to judge you. That can be like, let's talk this through. Yeah. Okay.
So we'll listen to what we ate. Like, let's go through this. She does it so well.
Let's talk about the facts. I always talk about the facts.
Then she pulls down her pants.
We're going to take that off.
And then I go, so you do think I look good?
She pulls down her pants.
Her pants are so crazy.
But-
I pull you through so much in this area.
I've pulled you through so much.
No, but you've been so open.
We just talk things through and it's...
Hey, can you talk to me really quick?
Can you talk to me for a second?
So I ate this and this is what I'm thinking.
What do you think about that?
Well, it has 310 calories, but if you break down the sugar...
But then Ari doesn't know if I'm being serious or not. I don't.
So she'll like look at me a couple times like, oh, okay, we're being serious.
Okay, I'll help you.
Well, I have to be honest with you.
This is something I have to be so honest about.
There's some times where I am like, I don't want to say I wish I had eating disorder.
I don't.
But when I tell you that going through such turmoil and like things had eating disorder, I don't. But when I tell you that going through such turmoil
and things like eating disorder or anxiety
or obsessive-compulsive thinking or heartbreak or grief
is so good because you can relate to others.
There's two things I can't relate to
that it's foreign to me.
It's this and it's kids with people.
Like people that talk to me about like problems with
their children like I because I don't have children yeah yeah yeah but why would you
like being a mother but um I know there's a major disconnect so at first when we were
going through this like she thought I like, I used to laugh.
I used to be like, Angela, you're fine.
It's because I didn't know how serious it was.
I really have struggled with understanding eating disorder, you know.
But it's been beautiful to walk through this with you.
It really has. I am so, yeah, I just think it's been so hard for you, this journey of 10 years, but the
way you can look at people and say, me too, you're not alone.
I already know is this whole episode, how many people you're freeing because people
have lost their lives to this and they've, they've battled this.
They don't even come out of their rooms.
I have a family member who, she's 80 and she's still battling.
So, wow, wow, thank you for this because man,
have you freed so many people today.
You're amazing.
You really are.
No, seriously.
Yeah.
Thank you, Jesus.
Well, yeah, this is life. This is life.
Yeah, it is.
We all go through a lot, and everybody's battling something, and you probably don't even know what they're battling.
Even the closest people to you could be battling something that they're too scared to tell you. So I would even encourage people to start going around and telling even more of your
deepest, darkest things that you struggle with, because somebody will be like,
oh my gosh, now I can finally tell the one thing that I'm struggling with.
You know?
I think that's been one of the most beautiful things about Tor.
Yeah.
Is we're looking at these, there's people that come up to us
and the stories they tell us.
And we're just like,
you've just really understood the silent battles
people are going through.
We're all battling with someone.
That's why it's so important to be kind.
You're battling with someone?
Did I say someone?
Yeah.
Oh, that too.
But you're always battling something.
So you just, just really, it really just knocks something in you
to be like, every time I want to have an attitude,
or flip someone off on the road,
maybe I should look at them and be like,
maybe they're going through something really heavy.
Yeah, so what are you going through?
I'm just kidding.
I love you, thank you for that.
I love you.
Guys, we love you.
My nail.
My nail, I ran my nail off in the middle
of her telling the story.
Is that your real nail?
Yeah.
You're so lucky.
Will you give them the blessing?
Sure.
It's your thing.
No.
We love you guys so much. We love you guys so much.
We love you guys so much.
We hope that today with Ange being as open and vulnerable as she was today, that it would
give you the courage to be open and vulnerable and open up and share your story because you
will be a seed of faith like Angela today to someone to make them feel less alone, to
help them be like, you know what?
I'm going to beat this too.
You went through this and now I'm going to go through this,
but I'm going to beat it too.
So I just hope that you guys will go out there.
I just, so many girls that, not even girls,
just people at our tour, we just look out
and we just see equipped.
Like you guys are so equipped for this.
Like, you might not be on a podcast, but you are equipped.
You're equipped to tell your pain, your story, and to help others,
because that's what Jesus called you to do.
We tell our testimonies to help the lives of others, and that's what life is all about.
It starts there, to help His people.
So, thank you, Angela. We love you so much.
Thank you, Angie.
I don't call her Angela.
May the Lord bless you and keep you.
May his face shine upon you.
And may he give you peace, a peace that surpasses all
understanding to know that whatever you're going through,
he is going to heal you and redeem you.
And it will be your greatest testimony
and the thing you will have victory over.
Thank you, Jesus.
I receive that.
Do you want to pray for people
with eating disorders real quick?
Yeah, should we?
I don't know why I feel like you should.
Actually, you know what?
I'll even read this prayer that I wrote in the devotional and we can all read it together.
Just read this with us.
Dear Jesus, I come before you with a mind clouded by the battle I face with my relationship
with food and my body.
Lord I acknowledge my weakness and my need for your strength and healing. I ask
for your divine intervention and the power of your love to set me free from this eating
disorder and the unhealthy thoughts that plague me.
Jesus, you are the healer of all wounds, seen and unseen. I ask you to heal the deep-rooted
pain and insecurities that fuel this disorder.
Replace my distorted perceptions with your truth and help me to see myself as you see
me, fearfully and wonderfully made.
Give me the grace to treat my body with respect and care, to nourish it in a way that honors
you.
Grant me the wisdom to seek and accept the help I need,
whether through counseling, support groups,
or the loving encouragement of friends and family.
Surround me with people who will uplift me
and remind me of your love and promises.
In your holy and precious name I pray, amen.
In Jesus' name.
Beautiful.
I love you guys.
Guys, thank you for just letting me have this really beautiful safe space to do this.
Thank you for being the greatest family.
I can't even imagine a world that I would come on here and do this, and it's literally
because of you guys.
It's literally because you guys give us this space and you allow us to come and have these
conversations.
And I just love you so much and I want to see you free.
And I want you to know that there is actually hope if you're someone thinking, does anyone
ever actually get free from this?
You have somebody sitting right in front of you who never could have imagined being free
from the claws of hell.
Like literally, and I'm not even over-spiritualizing it, it is the most demonic thing.
And I was set free.
And I want you to get a journal and I want you to write your thoughts out.
Sometimes when you speak out loud I'm realizing it doesn't. Journaling is really, really important.
Journal your heart out. Speak to God directly. It doesn't need to be beautiful. It doesn't need to
sound like anything special. You say, why God? How God? What's going on God? Like that's what
He desires from you. So we love you. Thank you guys.