Girls Gone Bible - Stephanie Ike & The Power of Your Dreams | Girls Gone Bible

Episode Date: August 2, 2024

ggb ggb ggb:) WHAT A SPECIAL DAY. WE HAVE OUR GIRL STEPHANIE IKE BACK ON THE POD! (OUR FIRST EVER DOUBLE GGB GUEST) We're here to talk about her new book "The Power of Your Dreams" “More than a bo...ok, it's an assignment to awaken our generation to the power of dreams.” https://stephanieikeokafor.com/books "How would your life look if you gained years of wisdom, guidance, and strategy while you were asleep? That’s exactly what you receive when you tap into the power of God’s voice in your dreams! The average person spends twenty-six years of life sleeping. That time was created not only to enjoy the physical benefits of rest but to engage in the presence of God and access His guidance for our days. Through fascinating real-life stories, Pastor Stephanie Ike Okafor reveals how dreams have equipped her and many others throughout history, and she shows how you, too, can receive revelation from God through your dreams. Anchored in biblical truth, The Power of Your Dreams answers your most perplexing questions about dreams: • Are all dreams from God? • How do I know if my dream contained a message from God? • How do I interpret my dreams? • Do nightmares have any meaning? God spoke to His people through dreams in biblical times. Today He speaks to you in the same way, inviting you to unlock hidden treasures of wisdom. Discover richer clarity and confidence in your purpose as well as enjoy a strengthened relationship with God as you learn how to recognize and respond to His voice in your dreams. we hope you love this episode. we love you so much. Jesus loves you more. -Ang & Ari if you’d like to support Girls Gone Bible 🙏🏻🕊️🤍 Paypal- https://www.paypal.me/girlsgonebibleinfo Venmo- https://www.venmo.com/u/girlsgonebible HEY WHILE WE'RE HERE. WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO RATE & LEAVE COMMENTS ON SPOTIFY & APPLE PODS. IT HELPS US. OK BYE NOW LOVE YOU

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm more of a general, because Tim has been asking me like, hey, come on the basement. So I was with him yesterday, but we do like general conversations. But then August gets like crazy. How do you feel? I'm excited, not because I wrote it, not even because I'm pushing the book. I'm excited for what it's gonna do for people. Because I remember years back I had a preacher sermon called Interpretation of Dreams. And there were so many testimonies.
Starting point is 00:00:37 Even when I go back on the sermon and I read the comments, and people are like, oh my gosh, I'm dreaming now. I remember my dreams. So I'm, especially for the times we're in. So that, because personally for me, my husband is the one who's always pushing me. At first I'm like, I will just let God do, let him do what he wants to do. But when the Lord's there showing me,
Starting point is 00:00:58 he'll be very proactive. And he will show me like, okay, these are the people or this is the thing. And I'm like, okay, these are the people or this is the thing. And I'm like, okay, I recognize, and we'll talk about that even when we take, but the times we're in, people really need to hear God's voice. Yeah, because a lot of things are gonna come like a shock
Starting point is 00:01:17 if you're not ready, you know? Yeah. I want you to teach me how to walk in the supernatural. I know. We are, I'm sure you get this all the time, but we just want what you have. Like when you see what God's done in some of his life, it's unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:01:32 Yeah, and it's really like, no one is more special than the other. But when you make yourself available, because even when you guys are on tour, and if you sense the Holy Spirit is like, whatever, because sometimes we are afraid to just like go out there. Like we're waiting for it to be so clear to us, but even when you look at Jesus and Peter,
Starting point is 00:01:54 Peter knew that Jesus is not the person that's gonna carry you through it. So when Peter wanted to walk on water, he was like, Lord, just tell me to come. Not, okay, bring me, come to me, walk with me. No, he, Lord, just tell me to come. Not, okay, bring me, come to me, walk with me. No, he just says, just tell me to come and I will put myself out there. And there are times that you might be in a meeting,
Starting point is 00:02:15 in a gathering, and you sense the Holy Spirit saying, hey, I wanna heal some people right now. And you just have to go there. Because you have to trust is what God wants to do through you. Not what you want to do. What God wants to do through you. And he does it.
Starting point is 00:02:32 So then you just go out there. Because even like on Sunday, I remember the second service, it was so strong. And I kept hearing the Lord say, there are people I want to heal. And I'm like, okay Lord. And I just went for it. I'm like, there are people I want to heal. And I'm like, okay Lord. And I just went for it.
Starting point is 00:02:47 I'm like, there are people that God wants to heal. And there were two specific things he showed me. It was like someone with a knee issue, and you've not been able to like walk on your own and you're going to. And this man who came in with like, you know, his crutches and his knee brace, he drops it and just starts walking through the church.
Starting point is 00:03:07 And then. At one? Yeah. Wow. This last Sunday. This last Sunday. And then he tells me there's another lady that you're gonna get a text while we're in service
Starting point is 00:03:17 about a loved one who is gonna be, they're gonna inform me that she's getting better. Because even if they're not here, God knows where they are. And literally at the end of service, this lady is in tears and she shows me the text. It's her grandma in the hospital. They text her randomly a picture.
Starting point is 00:03:36 They're like, oh my gosh, she's getting so much better. And I'm like, but you just have to, you have to make room for God and not get so in your head and be nervous because God wants to shine through everyone. Yeah. Every single person if you just go in faith. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:03:56 I know, I feel so much recently that he's like as long as you guys get out of the way, as long as you don't stick to a script. Yeah. And he's like if I ask you guys get out of the way, as long as you don't stick to a script. And he's like, if I ask you guys to go up there and I say, just sit and kneel and pray for an hour, do it. Because, and I always tell people,
Starting point is 00:04:14 the power is in the obedience. Whatever God says, like I was in St. Louis for a conference, and you know, this is the last day of the conference, so where I'm about to go up to preach and worship is happening and right there the Lord says this is like two minutes before I'm supposed to go up and the Lord tells me kneel down kneel and worship me and I just knelt and I was worshiping and then says, I'm about to break the chains. And all of a sudden, the whole script changes. The pastor, she's like, okay,
Starting point is 00:04:52 something is happening in the room. So she goes up and she says the exact thing. She's like, I just sense God wants to set people free and break chains. And then the Lord says, now get up. So I get up, and she was like, you know what, God wants to set people free and break chains. And then the Lord says, now get up. So I get up, and she was like, you know what, if people wanna come down for prayer, just come down for prayer,
Starting point is 00:05:11 it turned into a deliverance night. Wow. I know, I see incredible things like that happening. So it's just, whatever God says, the power is in you obeying. Yeah. You don't think, because if you think it's you like, oh my gosh, maybe I didn't pray enough,
Starting point is 00:05:27 or I didn't do this enough, you're making it about you. It's about Jesus. Can I ask you one thing? Because I know we have to start. When you do your sermons, do you have a whole thing you're going to talk about, or you just kind of have your notes and then you go up and you let the Holy Spirit take over?
Starting point is 00:05:43 No, for me, so normally I'll stay in prayer, because I'm like, God, what is it you want to say to your people? The moment he gives it to me, then I'm in prayer through it. I'm like, I'm asking him, like, teach me what you want to say to your people, so I can teach them, so that you can show me the layers and how you want to do it, and I'll just have notes.
Starting point is 00:06:05 And then just let the spirit flow. Yeah, that's so good. God, we've learned so much from you. We have learned so much from you. I can't wait to stop at one of you guys' the tour stuff, because you just let the spirit flow. You can have a plan and all of that, right? Because sometimes God will give you a vision
Starting point is 00:06:23 on how they should be orchestrated, but if he decides to flip it, flip it. Yeah, yeah, it's gonna be incredible. I know it's gonna get to a point where we're like, nothing is, it's gonna start being completely upside down. We're gonna think we're gonna do one thing and it's gonna go completely the other way. And when you do it, you're gonna see how people
Starting point is 00:06:42 would just be, like all kinds of healings. Cause I was at VU last year. And I remember so I had like the main session and I had a breakout session. So the breakout session before I went, they kept asking me like, hey, what's your breakout session gonna be about? And I'll pray about it and the Lord is like, keep it open.
Starting point is 00:07:01 And so I was like, I don't really know what it's gonna be about. So then Minushka, one of the pastors there, she's like, let's just call it one on one with Stephanie. I said, perfect. So whatever happens, happens. So we get to the session and I'm like, okay God, what's about to happen?
Starting point is 00:07:18 And when I tell you like the Holy Spirit just orchestrated the whole thing, and I remember at the end, I heard the Lord say, I wanna heal people. And sometimes you just wanna keep it where it's like, okay, God wants to heal people and pray. He's like, no, call them to come to the front. And pray for them one by one.
Starting point is 00:07:37 There was a lady, an old lady on a wheelchair and she comes and the Lord tells me, pick her up, walk with her, count seven steps, and let her go. I said, okay. So her family helps, we pick her up, and then we walk with her and let her go, and she started walking.
Starting point is 00:07:57 Everybody went crazy. There was a lady who was deaf in one ear, and I was like, okay God, what do you want me to do? And he was like, just touch her ear and just thank me. And then I was like, we need to test this. So she puts an AirPod in her ear and plays music and she could hear it, and she's crying. But it's not me, it's God.
Starting point is 00:08:22 I'm only being obedient to how he wants it to happen. So same thing with you guys. When the Lord just tells you to do something, your obedience is what allows the Spirit to do what he wants to do. He's just doing it through you. It's so good. You oughta hear everyone at VUCon about you.
Starting point is 00:08:39 Everyone was coming up to us at VUCon. They all were talking about you. Oh yeah, about your episode. Oh wow. People went crazy over it. That episode has been, the testimonies are average. I can't imagine what you guys have gotten. People, our lives, it's beautiful.
Starting point is 00:08:57 It did insane. It was so, because it was incredible, and you're incredible. Thank you Jesus, thank you Jesus for this day. Amen. Thank you God, just do, Holy Spirit, do and you're incredible. Thank you Jesus, thank you Jesus for this day. Thank you God, just do Holy Spirit, do whatever you wanna do, let us get out of your way like Stephanie said in Jesus' name, amen. Amen, well.
Starting point is 00:09:15 We already, we've been talking for 30 minutes, but I'm Ange. And I'm Ari. And this is Girls Gone Bible, we're a faith-based podcast where we talk all things, spirituality, mental health, everyday life, and specifically Jesus and the Bible. And Jesus is King and He is Lord.
Starting point is 00:09:32 And today we are visited by one of our friends, Stephanie E.K. Okafor. Yay! Thank you so much for coming again. I know, we're back! You're our first double guest, by the way. That's amazing. We've never done this before. Oh come on first. So good. So you just came out with a book. Can you hold it up? You guys, we finished it in 24 hours. It was that good. The power of your dreams. You guys, I have a parking ticket I just, as my bookmark, can you imagine? I can't even believe it.
Starting point is 00:10:07 I'm a parker right here. I'm a parker right here. Oh my God. That's the most LA thing I've ever seen. So good, oh my gosh, this book, Stephanie, I mean your ability to walk in the supernatural, to be in the prophetic, to just hear God in a way that is so inspiring and has
Starting point is 00:10:26 really changed Ari and I's faith. You say something about how we spend a third of our lives sleeping. And so you say, if we're supposed to be cut off spiritually during that time, and it's only about our physical and our mental wellbeing in that moment. Did God really intend for us to be cut off from him for a third of our lives? There's no way. So can you just speak a little bit on why you wrote this book, what led to it, and just anything you want to say to start off? Yeah, no, absolutely. This book, I'm really excited about it because initially I was not planning to write a book on dreams, right? I was working on something else and the Lord literally just
Starting point is 00:11:09 disrupted my whole plans and he says I want you to write a book on dreams and teach people about the power of their dreams and showing me that you know, there's a scripture in the Bible that says in the last days I'll pour out my spirit on all flesh, and your sons and daughters will prophesy, your young men will see visions, and your old men will dream dreams. But old men dreaming dreams is not about an age, because everyone dreams, right? And then it says dream dreams.
Starting point is 00:11:36 So it's not even just like your old men would dream. So there is this consistency in being able to dream daily that it's about the mature, not age-wise, but spiritual maturity. Because your dream state is one of the most uninterrupted places where God can deposit a message to you. Because a lot of times, as we get older, our intelligence gets in the way.
Starting point is 00:12:03 You know, we question things, even when we don't even make room for God. We're so distracted. We have so many things going on. And so in that sleep state, it's like there's rest. There's nothing to distract you, and the Lord can encounter you in your dream. And what is so powerful about dreams is that even when you see in the Bible when God would have an encounter with Solomon in the dream, it's literally him. It's not just like the idea of Solomon. This is Solomon's spirit that is active and alert in a dream. So when the Lord asked him, tell me, what do you want? And he's like, whatever you want, I'll give it to you.
Starting point is 00:12:44 And Solomon is like, wisdom to lead this people. That was Solomon literally answering the Lord in his dream because in the dream, his spirit could be alert and his spirit could have an encounter with God. So there are times where there are dreams that could be like that, which is an importation dream. There are times where your dreams are just visual imagery and symbols that God is using to get you a message. But literally, when I even studied that the average person sleeps for 26 years of their life and you recognize that God did not design us to be outside of his presence. We go all the way back to the Garden of Eden. I love Genesis so much and just that part of the
Starting point is 00:13:26 Garden of Eden because it tells you about God's perfect will. Because if sin never entered the world, it was always about intimacy and communion with God. It was always about that. And so we see that the first time sleep is introduced in the Bible is when Adam went to bed. God was still there. He was working. He took out one of his ribs. He forms the woman. He could have done that in so many ways. But even in Adam's sleep state, God was like, God was still on him, around him, playing, messing with him. You know,ed his wife. I didn't even know it, right?
Starting point is 00:14:09 He wakes up, he's like, hey, look at what I did while you were sleeping, you know? So there is this place of constant communion where even when you're sleeping, God wants to get things that he's working on that when you're awake, you should now step into it. So one of the things I wrote in the book is that every night is an opportunity to receive the will of God, and every day
Starting point is 00:14:30 is an opportunity to live it out. Even in Adam, in that moment, when he was sleeping, God was working out his will. And when he woke up, he could recognize it and he could walk with it. So I'm very passionate about this book, especially for the times we're in. I think as a nation, we are stepping into times of darkness. And it's not gonna be dark because God is not in it, God doesn't have a plan to redeem or God doesn't have a plan to reveal
Starting point is 00:15:04 what his purpose is at the end. But it's going to be dark because it's going to get us to our knees. It's going to get us to a place of humility. It's going to get us to a place where we're seeking God in truth as people. But we are entering some very interesting times and you need to see. You need to have, you need to be in tune with your spiritual senses because God wants to reveal to people what's to come so they know how to prepare, they know how to set up their families, they know what to put in place and it's not just what you're
Starting point is 00:15:37 hearing but it's also what you have known by the Spirit of God. So I'm very passionate about people to be awakened in this area of their life. And one of the things I talk about in the book is that it's not just about dreams. It doesn't end there, but this will activate your senses in general. Yeah. Wow.
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Starting point is 00:18:02 That's the best offer you'll find, but you must use our code ggb for 15% off. That's the best offer you'll find, but you must use our code GGB for 15% off your order. One last time, that's laundresauce.com slash GGB promo code GGB for 15% off. Thank you Laundry Sauce. It's so funny, this book came to me at the most perfect time because lately at night I'll be on the phone. just the other day I'm on the phone I saw something I didn't like fell asleep woke up a bad dream can ruin your whole day my whole day was done for can you speak on that how important it is before your sleep you too because I know you said a lot like you go through the
Starting point is 00:18:43 scriptures and things like that. It's how important it is to not be on the phone or have the TV on and things like that. You said in the book you make your bed an altar. So can you teach us how to do that? Yeah, yeah. I'll give an example and many people have this experience. Oftentimes when you go to a hotel and you just just go to bed, and you don't pray, and you're just like tired, you go to bed. There are many situations where people have these crazy dreams, sexual dreams,
Starting point is 00:19:14 or you feel a presence in the room, and it scares you, you wake up, because the bed is already an altar. Now you can decide what type of altar you wanna make it. So when people have these moments where they just go to hotel or they're in a friend's house and they fall asleep and they have a dream that they would never have.
Starting point is 00:19:36 It's just out of the box and it's like what just happened? It's because you're interacting with whatever spiritual presence was left in that atmosphere from whoever was there. And so when you step into a place, I always tell people, pray before you sleep in any hotel rooms because that would, you are, you're speaking the blood of Jesus over any other activity to submit to him. And so making your bed an altar is one, recognizing it's already an altar, right?
Starting point is 00:20:07 And so it's whose altar are you building? And so if you wanna make your bed an altar for the Lord, and then you become intentional in how you go to sleep. You become intentional, you don't just fall asleep watching a horror movie, because you're gonna engage the spirit behind that. You don't just fall asleep, a horror movie, because you're gonna engage the spirit behind that. You don't just fall asleep, whether in anger or maybe you're meditating on something crazy,
Starting point is 00:20:31 because in the book I talk about how dreams can either come from self, from God, or from Satan. And so from self, self dreams are not always bad dreams or crazy dreams. Sometimes you're just thinking about a boy, and then you see him in your dream. And there's nothing bad. It's a ruin your day.
Starting point is 00:20:48 It's just like, right, and you're getting ice cream together. And it's like, what? We broke up all these years ago. And there's nothing there. You never want to see this guy ever in your life. But a dream can also come from Satan. And that happens when we don't guard the space of our sleep, where we are a bit reckless with how we go to bed, what we're watching
Starting point is 00:21:11 before we go to bed, what we're listening to before we go to bed, the things that we're entertaining in our hearts. If there's something that is not of God that you are meditating on, that is maybe lustful or whatever, everything in the spiritual realm, it's a real thing. Lust is a spirit, everything is a real thing. And so what you allow to be the meditation of your heart before you go to bed is what you end up
Starting point is 00:21:38 engaging with spiritually. And so for many people that remember their dreams, because some people, everyone dreams, that's the funny part. Every single person dreams every night. The problem is that people don't remember. So for those that now remember, they're like, oh, why would I have this nightmare,
Starting point is 00:21:55 or this crazy dream, or X, Y, and Z? And it's because you're not being mindful about how you go to bed, how you prepare before you go to bed. And so that's why in the book I talk about preparing your body and soul because your soul intake matters. What you watch, what you listen to, it's not random. These things are very spiritual.
Starting point is 00:22:16 I remember my husband and I, we were like, we were coming back, can't remember where we were at the time, but we were flying back into LA and there was this show on the, you know, in the plane, and I was watching it, and I was like, cause I had, I always had this thing about understanding the minds of like serial killers, cause I'm like, how did they get to the place where they, they just became open for this spirit?
Starting point is 00:22:39 And so I'm watching this show, and it's about the true life story of this serial killer. And it's not dark, right? But it had a dark presence to it. But the storyline was really good. And I'm like, oh, I want to watch it. I want to watch it. And I could feel the Holy Spirit telling me, like, turn it off.
Starting point is 00:23:00 And I'm like, no. I'm like, it can't be that bad. Like, let's just see what happens in the next episode. And I keep watching it. I get home, I'm so obsessed with this show. I'm like, how does it end? And then my husband is with me and I'm like, baby, you gotta see this show.
Starting point is 00:23:17 We gotta watch this show together. And then I put it on. I explain to him what happens and then we're watching it. While we're watching it, the Holy Spirit talks to him as well. He's like, babe, we should not be watching this. Something about this is not right. And then I feel convicted, because I'm like, oh, maybe God was really being serious.
Starting point is 00:23:37 You know? So we turn it off. Now, we just turned it off, and then we went to bed. We both had the same type of dreams. It was very dark, very demonic. And so we woke up and we're like, we had no business watching the show right before going to bed. And going to bed, not even canceling anything,
Starting point is 00:23:57 not inviting the Spirit of God, just going to bed. And our dreams were literally like the same. And it was so demonic. Wow. And so sometimes people have those dreams and they're thinking what's wrong? No, the problem is I let Satan in. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:15 It was not that it was a warning, I just let the devil in. Yeah. And I need to take inventory of where I was open. Right. In that moment And so yeah. And even not watching something that's outright demonic or horror films or anything like that,
Starting point is 00:24:31 I think one of the least godly things that I do is that the only way that I fall asleep is by scrolling on Instagram. And I don't have dreams. I don't dream dreams. I don't remember my dreams. If I do, I don't even have bad I don't remember my dreams if I do, I don't even have bad dreams either,
Starting point is 00:24:46 but I always ask God for dreams, I always, I'm like please God, but I do not create a space in which he could bring me dreams. Because I love that you mentioned that because it is, we're distracted even before going to bed. Because I said dreams are, they're language of the spirit. And so sometimes it's got starting a conversation or continuing a conversation.
Starting point is 00:25:09 And so before you go to bed, engage in conversation. If the last thing we're doing is being on our phone, we're not creating a space because the thing is that as humans we are tripertite beings, right? So body, soul, and spirit. Now, the soul is literally, because in the beginning, the Bible says in the beginning,
Starting point is 00:25:33 God took man from the ground, the dust, and he formed man, and then he breathed into his nostrils the spirit of life, the breath of life, and then man became a living soul. So in the beginning, you, the Breath of Life, and then man became a living soul. So in the beginning you have the body, then God breeds the Spirit of Man into him. So this is different from the Holy Spirit.
Starting point is 00:25:52 This is the Spirit of Man that comes into him. When the Spirit, our Spirit, when our Spirit encountered our body, then the soul was formed, right? So the soul is what you have control over. That's why the soul is where there is warfare. The Satan is not after your spirit, he's after your soul. Because the soul is now your intellect, your emotions, everything, your intelligence, all of that, your everything. The soul is like in the middle, right?
Starting point is 00:26:26 What the soul submits to is what has power over your life. So if you only feed your flesh, then you're telling the soul to submit to your flesh. Yeah. And so when your soul is submitted to your flesh, your spirit takes the backseat. And the spirit of God communicates with your spirit. Your spirit translates that to your soul. If your soul is submitted to the flesh, it's backwards. It's not in the design of God.
Starting point is 00:27:01 So oftentimes where people have a hard time hearing from God is because their soul is not aligned to the Spirit. Because the Spirit of God encounters your spirit. And your spirit now translates that to your soul. And so if you are so distracted on your phone, you're just giving into the things your flesh wants to do. That's what the Bible says, the desires of the spirit are against the desires of the flesh. So Satan, he wants you to stay in your flesh because in your flesh he has authority. He can reign in the flesh. He doesn't want you to be submitted to the Spirit of God because that means your flesh
Starting point is 00:27:46 now has to be subjected and that's why anyone who surrenders, like when you're fully surrendered to God, God goes after the things in your flesh. Why? Because he wants you to, he doesn't want the flesh to have power over your spirit. That's why we fast. That's why he says, that's why Jesus would say, not if you fast, when you fast. Not if you pray, when you pray. Because get your flesh under subjection. Get it in control.
Starting point is 00:28:19 That's why the Bible will talk about, I have not given you a spirit of fear, but of power, love, and a sound mind. That sound mind talks about self-control. That you can get self under control. That is how we engage with the spirit of God. So if I'm going to bed and I'm only engaging in things my flesh desires,
Starting point is 00:28:38 now my spirit is taking a secondary position. So I'm not sensitive to what my spirit knows. So the Lord is having a whole conversation with my spirit and I have no sensitivity because I'm living in the flesh. And so that's where people don't realize the consequences. I'm not doing anything bad. I'm on Instagram.
Starting point is 00:29:01 I'm watching a movie for seven hours and it's a funny movie. We're laughing with family. It's nothing bad. I'm not thinking of anyone in any bad way. I'm having a good time, but I'm not feeding my spirit. And if I'm not sensitive to my spirit, I can't discern what God is saying. Exactly. And he's always speaking. That is. We just can't hear. Yeah. Wow. You guys know that I'm always looking for ways to eat healthier, but my problem is that I don't know where to start. I want to find meals that are good for you, taste great, and are not insanely expensive.
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Starting point is 00:31:38 and make sure you know to use our promo code ggb so they know that we sent you. Thank you, Dinnerly. No, I love that you talked about all these things that can separate us from God. One of the things that I think a lot of people really need to hear is, you said, through my relationship with God and my experience as a pastor, I've discovered two primary factors that block our communication with the Lord, unforgiveness and fear. Can you talk about that? So many of us are dealing with that.
Starting point is 00:32:12 The Bible says that God is love. Love is who He is. It's His nature, His essence, His identity. And so for anything, you cannot fully be intimate with God because unforgiveness is subtle hate. It's to have hate in your heart for someone. And so to be one with God, you can also be holding on to what is opposite to his nature. It doesn't mean that it blocks you off from communication completely. In the mercy of God, he can get certain messages to you
Starting point is 00:32:50 to reveal to you that you're blocked, to reveal to you that hey, there's something in your life that is literally keeping you from fully hearing and receiving. There are ways that God can bypass and just try to get you a sign, a warning, like let this thing go, it's eating you up. Right?
Starting point is 00:33:09 And so with unforgiveness, it's subtle hate in the heart and now it goes back again to the spirit and the soul and the flesh. Because if I'm having hate in my heart, how can the spirit flow through that? That's right. So I can't be sensitive to the spirit of God. Because as a Christian, when I receive the Holy Spirit,
Starting point is 00:33:30 he takes residence in my spirit, not my soul, in my spirit. And when I'm submitted to that, it transforms. And that's why they say, you know, if your mind is renewed, you're transformed, because your submission to the spirit of God starts to change you from the inside out. But if I'm holding on to unforgiveness, if I'm holding on to bitterness,
Starting point is 00:33:51 if I'm holding on to hate, then I am working against the Spirit and I cannot be sensitive to His voice. And so that's why it's, you know, even there's a saying about how unforgiveness is like, what's the thing with poison? Poison, yeah. It's like you expect the other person to die, but you're the one drinking it.
Starting point is 00:34:11 Exactly, and you're the one drinking it. Because even though you're having this thing against the person, it's affecting your communion with the Holy Spirit. And I think the beauty there is, because now someone will say like, hey, but this person really did me wrong and they hurt me and X, Y, and Z. It's not to say, forgiveness does not remove someone from the consequences of their action. But forgiveness is to recognize what was at work in that moment. It was not just the person. It was that there was a brokenness that opened the door for the enemy to execute his plan through them against you.
Starting point is 00:34:52 So it doesn't stop the person. And there will be consequences for that. But you as an individual, you have to know, this is still someone God loves. This is still someone that God created. This is still someone that God has plans and a purpose for and in their brokenness they did this to me. But they are not their brokenness. I can forgive you because I recognize this is not you. But I will let God deal with you however he chooses. I can forgive you and it does not mean we need to have a relationship.
Starting point is 00:35:26 Yeah. And that's where people trip up all the time, because you think holding on to unforgiveness is holding on to your power. Yeah. But it's actually killing you. Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 00:35:36 And so there's unforgiveness. And then, even when we talk about the second thing, we'll talk about fear, because again, I have not given you a spirit of fear, but a spirit of power, love, and a sound mind. And it goes back, Jesus responds to faith. Jesus, even when Jesus went to his hometown in the Bible, the Bible says that he could not do many miracles there because of their unbelief. Right? And so anything that is void of faith, anything that sucks faith out of your life, whether it's unbelief, whether it's fear,
Starting point is 00:36:11 it doesn't give God permission to walk alongside you. Yeah, yeah. Because you have created a narrative that is saying I don't believe you. Right. I don't believe that you're gonna be with me in this. I don't believe that you're gonna be with me in this. I don't believe that you're gonna speak to me. I don't believe that you're gonna protect me.
Starting point is 00:36:31 And that narrative is literally causing a blockage. So good. So even though he has the desire to do something, Jesus went to his hometown with a desire to heal people, to raise the dead, all of the above. But their unbelief blocked him. Right, yeah. And the same thing, fear can also block us.
Starting point is 00:36:53 And it could be fear because there was experience with trauma, there was experience with things, but it goes back to saying, okay, Lord, I have to trust you with my life. I have to trust that you have been there. I have to let go of this need to guard myself and put walls up and all of that, and I need to open up.
Starting point is 00:37:13 Because if I'm gonna live, if I'm gonna surrender to you, if I'm gonna walk with you, then I cannot keep holding onto ways of trying to protect myself when you are lord over my life. That's right. So unbelievable. Unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:37:28 Can you give us some tips and tricks? Can you just walk us through what you do at night, your nighttime routine, what sets you up to put yourself in a place spiritually that you can receive from God? You know, how you really make that bed and altar. Yeah, I think one of the things that's very practical for me is having a journal by my bed. Because it's me positioning myself to say,
Starting point is 00:37:51 God, I expect to hear from you. Very simple, having a journal by my bed, but then more, even going beyond that, I'm very mindful about what I watch before I go to bed. And even if I might be watching something random or just like a good movie, when I do go to bed, when I'm laying down, I'd spend, even if it's a few minutes in prayer,
Starting point is 00:38:12 there are times where before going to bed, I could sense the Holy Spirit. Maybe it's just, there's some, you know, sometimes you're sensitive to where God wants you to pray and I'll spend time like praying in the Spirit because the Bible talks about that when we praying in the Spirit because the Bible talks about that when we pray in the Spirit we are, you know, their mysteries being released and even though you don't understand what's taking place, one of the things I've always told people, if you
Starting point is 00:38:36 pray in the Spirit for a long time you would recognize you start having visions throughout your day or your dreams become sharper because what you release by the Spirit of God, He wants to make plain to you. And so either He shows that to you through visions or He shows it to you through dreams. And so there are times, not every night, there are times where before going to bed I just take time to pray in the Spirit. But my normal routine is as I'm laying in bed I meditate on an attribute of God. And so I just like, I'm like, God, sometimes it's like meditating on his goodness.
Starting point is 00:39:12 And I'm one to understand that, and I'm like, wow, there'll be just an attribute that will stand out to me, and I meditate on that. And as I go to bed, he continues the conversation. Because as I meditate on the Lord, your spirit is asking questions. Like, God, so if you're good, but why does this happen? Or explain this to me, or teach me this, or show me that.
Starting point is 00:39:35 And all of a sudden, then in dreams, it becomes encounters. That's why most, like 90% of the time before I preach, I always have encounters with the Lord, either maybe showing me something about the direction to go with the message, because I'm meditating on him and I'm seeking him for guidance. So as I'm laying down, I'm like, God, speak to me. Show me what you want to tell your people. Give me a word, give me a vision, give me an image, give me a knowledge of where you want to take this word to.
Starting point is 00:40:07 And in the dream, it would be, whether it's an encounter directly, or it's symbols and imagery that is used to explain, this is the way you should go. Right? But for me, it's very key, like that nighttime, where it's like, okay, if I'm either playing worship music, or I'm just meditating on the Lord.
Starting point is 00:40:26 So good. Now that we're on the topic, so praying in the spirit, praying in tongues. This, so we actually mentioned it kind of for the first time on the last episode that we had and we got a couple of comments because I mentioned how praying in the spirit has absolutely changed my life.
Starting point is 00:40:44 Like changed my life, changed my faith. I spend probably stuff like literally all day praying in the Spirit. I'm not even kidding when I'm by myself when I'm driving in the grocery store. It's just every time I become aware of Jesus, I just start praying in the Spirit. I had said something, and I just wanna get
Starting point is 00:40:59 into a conversation about praying in the Spirit in general, but I had said something like, if you don't pray in the spirit yet, just start, just try. And I got a few comments of people saying that's not biblical, that's not theologically accurate because you have to be baptized, you have to be given the gift of praying in tongues and that you have to be baptized with the Holy Spirit and that's how that happens. And for me, it's something that I just began doing in faith, that what I was saying, believing in God's word, that if I do what He says, something is going to come from it. And I didn't necessarily feel right away, like I did feel a little silly in the
Starting point is 00:41:37 beginning. I didn't know if it sounded right. And then all of a sudden it started edifying me. It started building me up. I started being like, something is happening here. And so can you speak to that? Praying in the Spirit is a manifestation of the Holy Spirit. When you gave your life to Jesus, the moment you said yes to Jesus, and you surrendered and you accepted him as Lord,
Starting point is 00:42:00 you confessed that with your mouth, you believed it in your heart that Christ died for my sins. All of it. The moment you are true about your salvation, the Holy Spirit enters you. Yeah. That's it. That's the baptism. The Holy Spirit comes in you and you have access to every gift of the Holy Spirit. We have to step out in faith. Yeah. That's the key thing. We have to step out in faith. That's the key thing. We have to step out in faith and believe that this is for me. God wants praying in the Spirit, the Bible says edifies the person. The Bible calls it the perfect prayer. God wants everybody to pray in the Spirit. And I love that we're on this because even my first time, it is,
Starting point is 00:42:51 there's nothing about that, it's like, oh my gosh, that is, that is wow. No. I had heard people pray in the Spirit, so, and I'm like, this, I'm like, okay, Lauren, I want this. Okay. So I, literally, I sat down and I was studying the Word, and I saw how, like like when you pray in the Spirit sometimes you might be praying in languages that exist that you don't know and sometimes you might be praying in like heavenly language in a heavenly language that doesn't exist on earth and so I was like okay God by faith very similar to you I pulled out my computer I went to Google Translate I I got a pen. I said, I'm just going to open my mouth and start saying things. I will, yeah. And I'm going to try to write down what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:43:32 And I just opened my mouth and just started. It was nothing that felt. I didn't feel fire or wind or anything. And I started writing it down. I started trying to spell it out, and when I was done, I said, all right, Google Translate, and I put it in there, I'm like, detect language. No way.
Starting point is 00:43:53 To English, and it translated. No, it didn't. It did, and this is what it said. That is crazy. I can never forget this. It said, Joseph is a position of circumstance. That was so significant to my life because that was a time in my life
Starting point is 00:44:10 where literally God has stripped me from everything and he's telling me to just serve as an usher. I walked away from my business, everything. And I'm reading, Joseph is a position of circumstance? And I'm like, Holy Spirit, what does this mean? And the Lord said, talking to me about Joseph's story in the Bible, it is, yeah. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:44:32 Pass out. That there are times where when God is leading you to where he has you in life, that you're gonna go through many circumstances. Things that you don't like. And the Holy Spirit was like, I'm with you. Like the same way I was with Joseph, I am with you. That happened.
Starting point is 00:44:50 It was not a moment where I was in the church and I just got slapped by the Spirit. No. I was in my house and I pulled up my computer. And after that, by faith, and I remember I was like, okay, the language of the Spirit, it's a language. It's its own language, and I'm just giving myself to the Holy Spirit. Sometimes it could start sounding like you only have
Starting point is 00:45:19 one word, you just keep repeating this over and over and over, and then it grows, and and it builds up and it builds up. But I tell people the very same thing you're saying, just open your mouth and just whatever comes out, just say it in faith. My mom, the same thing. My mom used to tell me like, I don't know how to pray in the Spirit.
Starting point is 00:45:38 I'm like, Mom, no, you're overthinking it. You're making it too big of a deal. Open your mouth and believe. And one day we were praying on the phone together and she just started praying in the Spirit. And after that she would stop. I'm like, mom, just keep going. She's like, it sounds weird.
Starting point is 00:45:57 I said, don't overthink it, just do it. And I think more people, when people recognize Jesus' response to faith. Jesus' response to faith, Jesus' response to faith, if you believe, just open your mouth, you can look like a fool. He actually loves when we look like fools because it makes it where childlike. It is the place of dependency.
Starting point is 00:46:19 And when you do that, because God wants that for you. So it's not something he will deny you. There are things that, there's a scripture when Jesus says, you know, whatever you ask in my name, I will do it. And what he's referring to, it's not saying in the name of Jesus, like a signature and a check, right? But he's saying in his name, in his person, in his interest, in his authority. If he has an interest in name, in his person, in his interest, in his authority. If he has an interest in it, he will do it. And so when you're asking God to give you
Starting point is 00:46:52 what he already desires to give you, he will do it. Praying in the Spirit is something God wants every believer to have, but we are holding ourselves back. The Bible does not say praying in the Spirit is a sign of this fire. And I think where that comes from is because they look at what happened with the disciples. We know. And here's the interesting thing. Actually, let's open that scripture because there's something I want people listening to see in this. This is so good. This is the best.
Starting point is 00:47:25 This is the best. Yeah. You don't understand. You want to come back next week? Can you please? Hold on. Can you please put some of this? Oh my god.
Starting point is 00:47:33 We're in the same. Now, this scripture, it will show people what you're actually saying. And it's something that people miss. We're going to open the Bible on Girls Gone Bible. Girls Gone Bible. We have a Bible. It's just, we forgot it in the car, girls gone Bible. Girls gone Bible. We have a Bible. It's just we forgot in the car baby. I know. Can you imagine? But we have Bibles right here.
Starting point is 00:47:51 See this right? So Acts 2. It says, When the day of Pentecost had fully come, they were all with one accord in one place. And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a mighty Russian wind, and it filled the whole house where they were sitting. Then they appeared to them divided tongues as a fire and one sat upon each of them. And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak with other tongues as the Spirit gave them utterance. But they began. Wow.
Starting point is 00:48:25 They began to do it. The Spirit would give you utterance, but you need to open your mouth. Yes. Wow. Wow. That's so good. They didn't say the Spirit began to speak through. They began. So there was a partnership. Yeah. They began to speak with other tongues as the Spirit gave them utterance.
Starting point is 00:48:43 And the beautiful thing here is they're not even speaking in heavenly tongues. The languages they were speaking were the languages that people around them understood. And so people now have this, I think that, oh, you know, you have to have this huge moment. No, they were filled with the Holy Spirit the same way, the moment we say yes to Jesus, the Holy Spirit comes in us. And if you would allow him, he will speak to you. So true. I'm researching and I'm praying and I'm like, Jesus, what is this?
Starting point is 00:49:13 What is the truth about this? And then I realized that everything, all of these gifts, like sure, you might have stronger gifts than other people, but all of them you have to step out in faith with. And everything needs to be exercised. You don't become a prophet overnight. You exercise that gift of prophecy and you get it wrong sometimes.
Starting point is 00:49:34 When you step out in faith to heal somebody, you might not even get, I'm sure you've done so many healing. Have you ever been like, oh, that wasn't, you know, exactly what I thought it would be? Oh yeah, even with the prophetic. I remember there was, because even the same thing with the prophetic, if people, some people would say, I'm not prophetic or this, no, you don't make room. If you woke up and I tell people, when people ask me like, I, like, step into the prophetic more, I say, wake up. When you're in prayer, pray for someone and ask the Holy Spirit, share with me a knowledge you know about this person that I can pray for. Wow. And whatever comes to your heart, to your mind,
Starting point is 00:50:18 if it's a vision, pray about it and test it sometimes. Call the person and say, hey, I was in prayer for you and the Holy Spirit showed me this. Does it resonate with you? Because this is how God will build you up. Right, there was this one time, I could never forget, I was walking into this elevator and I was hearing a name, you know, and I was like, I keep hearing this name,
Starting point is 00:50:45 and there's a man in the elevator, and I was like, I wonder if maybe that's connected to this person. So I look at him, I was like, do you know this name? So I say the name, and he's like, no. I said, oh, and then, wait, we make it about us. You let a moment of feeling embarrassed shut the flow of the spirit.
Starting point is 00:51:08 Wow. So because I made it about me and I said, oh, you just look so much like this person. Just let it go. When I left and I was like, God, what was that? You kept telling me this name. And he was like, because I knew someone with that name.
Starting point is 00:51:26 And he said, if you would have asked me and dug deeper, what I was trying to show you is that the career, that the person you know with this name, is the same career that this guy is trying to get into. And I wanted you to pray with him about that career. Wow. But because we make it about us, if we miss one thing, we're like, oh, this ain't it.
Starting point is 00:51:49 But everything is a faith move. Every single thing. You have to come to God with faith. And he will teach you, he would raise you up. It's just like, for example, for me, one thing I've always believed is, I'm like, God, you raised the dead. And I'm like, I've always had this crazy faith in knowing that, Lord, I can pray for the
Starting point is 00:52:11 dead and they would be raised up. Now, I have prayed for two and they were not raised up. But I was all in. And recently, because I will always ask God about it, I'm like, God, why didn't they wake up? And I went in there full of, I was like, God, they're about to wake up. They need to wake up.
Starting point is 00:52:32 I am full of faith that they're gonna wake up. And I've had some very interesting moments with Pray for the Dead. I love this. I was like, wow, so nothing happened, huh? But each time God taught me something, each time God used it to teach me, even recently, because there was a question that the Holy Spirit always asked me and I never really had the answer. And he said, when the dead person is raised up,
Starting point is 00:53:05 whose faith was behind it? Does the dead person have faith to be raised up? Like what faith does a dead person have to believe that they'll be raised up? And I've never understood that question. I was like, huh, I wonder, like, yeah, that's true. Is it my faith that raises them up or whose faith raises them because they're dead?
Starting point is 00:53:22 You know? And I remember just recently, and the Lord said, it has to do with my will. If I reveal to you that I desire for them to, like this is not their time, then in the knowledge of my will and belief of what I've said, then you pray to raise them up.
Starting point is 00:53:40 But I don't regret every moment. I don't look at it like I missed God's voice or maybe I didn't hear properly or whatever. No, each moment taught me something and it built me up. And so if we stop getting in our heads and feeling like, oh my gosh, and we step out in faith, then we will see the Lord move. Yes. Amen. I love that you say that because... Lord move. Yes, amen. I love that you say that because... You guys, it's hot outside and your nighttime bedroom temperature has a huge impact on your sleep quality. And if you wake up too hot or too cold, I highly recommend you check out Miracle Maid's bed sheets. Miracle Maid sheets are
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Starting point is 00:55:35 and save over 40% off. Use promo code GGB to treat yourself. Thank you Miracle Made for sponsoring this episode. You know, we walk on in faith and we have hope and then it doesn't happen and then we lose a little bit of that hope and you talked about that in your book with your aunt and I loved that because you really had such bold faith. Oh, we were like, with my aunt, that, and I remember that crushed me for some time because
Starting point is 00:56:02 we were, we just knew. You know, even before we went to the morgue, we were like Lazarus, we're like, oh, this is day four, just like Lazarus. We're like, God, we're not asking you to do something new. You've done this before. You know what to do.
Starting point is 00:56:17 You know what to do. We go in there and I am just so like, because I was trying to prepare myself for what it would look like for my aunt to get up, and I was like, wow, how would the people feel? I was like, oh my gosh, it's gonna be crazy, it's gonna be amazing, I'm gonna see my aunt. And I was crushed.
Starting point is 00:56:37 We walk in there, and I remember the first thing, when I walked into the room where her body was laid, it was cold. Not even her cold. I could not sense the Spirit of God. And I'm like, okay, where are you? Because you need to bring her spirit back. And I could not sense God in the room.
Starting point is 00:57:00 And I'm like, something is off. Something is not right. Because I'm like, okay, if she's coming back to life, you would be here with her spirit. The room was cold, not just her, it was not about her body. The room felt like no one was there. And that's when, that was like the first level of like defeat I felt.
Starting point is 00:57:25 Because I just knew that God was already in the room, her spirit was in the room, it will be put back in her body. And even when I was praying, I just, I felt so disconnected and it crushed me for a while. I was just like, God, you set faith, we had faith, we showed up, this, this, and that. But what he did through that is that he taught me. And he showed me, look, there are times
Starting point is 00:57:52 that things don't happen the way you want it to, but I'm still God. I'm still a healer, I'm still the resurrection, I'm still the life, I can still raise people from the dead. And with time, he began to show me, but now when it comes to raising the dead, you need to have my express will. You need to know that I want them to be raised up.
Starting point is 00:58:14 Not just what you desire, but you know that it is what I desire for them because their life is now in my hand. So we have to be in agreement. It's not just, they don't have faith in that moment because it's a dead body. So the dead person doesn't have faith to say, let me be raised up.
Starting point is 00:58:33 So it has to do with the will of God. If he doesn't desire it, you cannot call it that. That's right. Wow. But I would not have gotten to that place of knowing if I didn't journey through the place of just believing that God, you could do this. And just trying. And just trying, it's never wasted.
Starting point is 00:58:52 It's never wasted in God. There was a revivalist, the name is not coming back to me, but this was a woman who, I mean, she would have this healing crusades and like 90% of people are getting healed. And I remember reading a book that she wrote and she talked about how in the beginning,
Starting point is 00:59:12 she'll pray for people and it seemed like her prayers were killing people faster. And she was so defeated. She's like, God, I'm praying for people and they're dying. Wow. But the Lord was teaching her through everything. It's never wasted. So the same thing, praying in the Spirit.
Starting point is 00:59:27 You open your mouth, even though you might feel like you just said one word and it didn't make sense, show up again, God will not deny you what he desires for you. That's so good. I'm speaking in text tonight. No, I'm doing it today. I'm gonna watch it. It could sound foolish, there are times where
Starting point is 00:59:44 it could just sound like a rap song. Like, ratatata. Oh yeah. That's what it sounds like. You oughta see me. Can I tell you the first time Ari spoke in tongues? Who is that of a movie? So we went to Vancouver to do this conference.
Starting point is 01:00:01 It's a three day conference. We were only supposed to speak in one session. We spoke every day. We're exhausted by the end of it, you know, when you do, you know, and by the end of it, we're spiritually depleted. It is like midnight, we're kind of like all closing out, just like the studs, just everybody involved
Starting point is 01:00:17 in the lead pastors and everything, and we're all in a circle and we're praying and it's going for a while. And I love Jesus so much, but in my head, I'm like, God, I'm ready to go home. You know, it's going for a while. And I love Jesus so much, but in my head I'm like, God, I'm ready, I'm ready to go home. You know, it's been a long time. And so I'm like, okay, cool, we're closing.
Starting point is 01:00:30 I can tell we're closing. All of a sudden, baptism of the Holy Spirit. Ari starts speaking in tongues. And then everyone starts freaking out, and I'm like, okay, here we go again. We're staying for a while. I look at her, she's on the floor, she goes, that was awesome.
Starting point is 01:00:45 I go, it was amazing though. But yeah, I tell my friends, even my friends who aren't the strongest believers, I'll literally be like praying in tongues right now, try, just do it. Because I know that it stirs something up. It stirs it up, yeah. I love it, and we have a generation of people,
Starting point is 01:01:01 especially in our generation, and so many of the people that we reach don't tap into the supernatural. And they're so in their heads with their religion. They're so in their head. Scripture is the basis and the core of everything we do, and it's the most important thing. But God wants our hearts too. He doesn't want us living up here. And speaking in tongues, praying in the Spirit has gotten me out of my head. And it's changed everything for me. So thank you for speaking on that. I want to ask you, this is so important.
Starting point is 01:01:31 So you know it's important because we have young viewers. You talk about angel numbers. And it's all I see on social media, the 333, the 111, and how it's really so deceptive. Can you talk about that? Because I loved that you spoke on that in your book. Yeah, so because it's trending, right? People, you know how we have this thing,
Starting point is 01:01:57 like if you like, if there's a color of a car that you desire, you see it everywhere. I'm gonna speak on two different things. People that are just seeing the numbers because they have a focus on it. So 111 or 1111 is a very common one to the point where people are like, oh my gosh, did you guys just see 1111, 1111.
Starting point is 01:02:19 But because your mind, subconsciously, you already have a desire to see that, you don't realize the 50 times that you looked at your phone and it was 450, 329. But when it's 1111, it stood out. Oh my goodness, 1111, there's something, right? Now the issue with that is when people make it about angel numbers, God speaks through numbers,
Starting point is 01:02:42 that's a fact. And there are times where there are certain numbers will stand out to you. There are times where you wake up at a certain time all the time And there are times where there are certain numbers that will stand out to you. There are times where you wake up at a certain time all the time. There are times where there's a certain number you might see for real all the time. Because God does speak through numbers. We see it all through the Bible. There is this consistency in God where even when you think about the number 40,
Starting point is 01:03:01 it's not coincidence that Jesus will be in the wilderness 40 days. You know, Moses was, you know, in the desert 40 years, the children of Israelites will go through the wilderness for 40 years. Like, you see this consistency with 40 that has to do with testing and trials and, you know, tribulation. But then you also see number seven, completion, and then you see this, you know, like there's a whole pattern in the Bible where you see seven keep showing up to represent completion. Eight new beginnings we see that when Noah came out of the ark it was a family of eight and it's like now there's a new beginning starting this family so God speaks through numbers that's true. The problem with angel numbers is that we are giving credit to angels. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:48 We are now subconsciously worshiping angels. So it's like, oh, I see an angel number, oh, I thank God for my angel. We don't pray to angels. We don't ask angels to do anything. Even Jesus, when there were things connected to angels, he would say, I will pray to the Father, and then he will send a legion of angels.
Starting point is 01:04:07 And with nothing that, there's not, we don't ask angels to do anything, we talk to the Father. And when he gives them a command, they follow the command of his word. Not just whatever we choose or we desire. And the problem with that, the biggest problem with that, is Satan is an angel.
Starting point is 01:04:28 So when you are given credit to angel numbers and you begin to worship angel, he can insert himself and that could bring a lot of deception. And it's just like the same thing with like horoscopes, right? Where you have people that try to figure out who will be their best partner in life based on a horoscope. That was not the design of God. So with numbers, if you live your life based on, oh my gosh, I saw this angel number,
Starting point is 01:04:59 then you go to the app or you go to the blogs and it's like, what does angel number this mean? And you use that to define your path, the enemy, you open a door for deception of the enemy. Because if an angel number tells you, today, stay home. And that is the day God actually has an assignment for you that involves you being on the road. Now you've missed that opportunity
Starting point is 01:05:23 because you're allowing your life to be defined by a number and by an interpretation that someone and a different spirit put behind a number. So at the end of the day, even when it's God speaking to you through numbers, you should only be led by the Holy Spirit. And not relying on oh, my angel numbers. No, this opens the door for deception. Wow. So good. I think the last pressing thing on my heart is this idea you have four different types of spiritual inclination, basically. You're either a seer, a feeler, a hearer, or a knower.
Starting point is 01:06:03 And would you explain those to us also? What are you other than probably all four of them at the same time? No, you can actually be all four. Yeah. And so there are different ways we experience God's voice, right? So there's the hearer, and that's the one who maybe what they're more dominant in. some people might hear the, you know, like the, how do I even phrase it, like the audible voice of God, right? And that might be, that's more rare, you know, where maybe there's a moment where the Lord just wants to like get your attention. For others, it's like where they just kind of like you hear God, where they call it like the other thoughts.
Starting point is 01:06:47 You know, it's a thought that's not your own, and you know that this is a Holy Spirit talk speaking to you very clearly. So some people are more dominant in just having conversations and dialogue with the Lord. And then there's the knower, and these are people who have very high discernment. They have a knowing of things. They have a, it's like, you know, you could bring them a contract, and everything on contract is perfect,
Starting point is 01:07:12 but they have a knowing that, wait, I'm not supposed to be doing this. Because in all these things, God is sharing with you his attributes. So when you're a hearer, he's sharing with you what he's saying. He's giving you access to his voice. When you're a knower, he's giving you access to what he knows about this situation. So if the Lord knows this is bad for you, then all of a sudden your
Starting point is 01:07:35 spirit is sensitive to that and you know, wait, everything on paper looks great, but I have a knowing I should not touch this. And it's important because when people recognize these are ways that God speaks, then it amplifies their ability to trust it more. And then the feeler, these are the people who are very, where it's like, man, I feel peace on this, or I don't sense the peace of the Lord on this. they have this, they're very sensitive to the peace of God, where it's like, okay, this doesn't sit well with me, something about this feels disruptive to me. And so they're engaging with the emotions of God concerning the matter. And then the seer, it's like God giving you access to see in that situation as he sees.
Starting point is 01:08:26 And so even with the seer, that's where now dreams, visions, open visions, trance, it covers everything that has to do with spiritual sight. So one of the key things is like when your eyes are open and you can see angelic activity, you can see demonic activity, but sometimes before it gets to that point, there are ways that God will build and raise you up. And so what I talk about, why I wrote the book when I focused on the seeing realm, is because it covers every experience. In the seeing realm, you feel, you know, you hear. It gives you like a full experience of what God wants to say.
Starting point is 01:09:07 And it even builds you up in your confidence in running with that. Now with dreams, yes, they might be symbols and it might come in a way that it feels like, you know, when people say like, oh, I had a dream of a car accident. And they're like trying to figure, decipher that. Now the language of dreams, when it's a God given dream, because it comes from God, you cannot
Starting point is 01:09:30 bypass having a whole relationship with Holy Spirit to understand what He's saying to you. Because I always tell people there's a difference between interpretation and translation. When you're, it's not dream translation, right? Because a translation is, it's the same meaning across the board. If I was to translate, you know, we, it's yes, wherever you go, French to English, it would mean yes. But interpretation is more personal.
Starting point is 01:09:57 So now it's not just me saying yes. Now someone needs to interpret how I said it to know if I was being sarcastic, was I being honest? Did I mean it when I said yes, so now you're interpreted in my body language. That's personal to me So with dream interpretation Yes, there are things that could feel like general understanding and insight, but there is something specific That God is saying to you. And to understand the language, you must have a relationship with the Holy Spirit. Because with the book, one of the key things,
Starting point is 01:10:31 the journey that I take people through the book, is first of all, get into a place where you believe that God can speak to you through your dreams. Because that unbelief or that fear can be blocking you. So get to a place where you, not even before you even believe, recognize why you need God's voice in your life. Recognize the importance of why God needs to speak to you because your life is in him.
Starting point is 01:10:56 Without him, you will never get to know who you really are. Without him, you are disconnected from the truth of your existence and becoming a shell of people's ideas and opinions. And so first of all, understand why you need God's voice. Then get to the place where you believe that you can hear Him. And then when you, from there, you know, then we talk about the practicals and, you know,
Starting point is 01:11:19 from a natural and spiritual place on how you prepare yourself to receive the word of the Lord. And when we get there, now what are the things you should look for in your dreams to understand the meaning of the dream? But all of that now is filtered through the Holy Spirit. So it takes us through a journey, but it still brings us to the arrival of,
Starting point is 01:11:42 when you recognize the symbols to look for in your dream, it's now to take in prayer so that the Holy Spirit can tell you the language and what that means. So for example, I remember having this dream where I saw flying sharks and there were these sharks that were just flying in the air and I'm like, what in the world is happening? Where are sharks flying? And they were eating up all, there was no, they were eating up all the flies. So there was no flies. So I had it knowing that there was no flies in the world
Starting point is 01:12:15 and there are all these flying sharks. And people are panicking, people are scared. But even though it was like, it was scary, there was a peace I had where I'm like, okay, I'll be all right. The sharks are not after me. They're not gonna affect me. And then I wake up and I'm like, what was that?
Starting point is 01:12:34 And so I pay attention to the symbols. I'm like, okay, they're sharks, but they're flying. There's no flies. People are panicked, but yet there are people who had peace. So I bring all the symbols and then I'm like, okay, what is the tone of the dream? So in the book I break down different things that people need to pay attention to. So what type of dream was that? What was the tone of the dream?
Starting point is 01:12:57 What stood out to you? The numbers, the colors, was it a location, was it the people? What were the things that stood out? So I do that practice for myself. So when I laid everything out, now I take it to prayer. And I'm like, Holy Spirit, show me what is this? And right there, the Lord began to speak. So first, he talks to me about the flies, that when flies are extinct, that what do
Starting point is 01:13:20 flies do? They eat up waste. So when you have no flies in a society, you're going to have a lot of trash. A lot of waste would be just exposed, because they're the ones that consume it. And then he says, the flying sharks are the media. The way that people call media like sharks.
Starting point is 01:13:40 So he's like, they're in the air because they represent the media. And then he like, they're in the air because they represent the media. And then he starts talking to me about the times. He says, you're coming into a time where he's going to cause the things that people have hidden for such a long time, wolves in sheep clothing. And he started talking to me about things that will come out of the church, things that will come out of culture, people who have been acting one way and in the behind the scenes, they are not who people think they are. Wow.
Starting point is 01:14:11 That he will cause their mess to no longer be hidden, but to come out in the open. Wow. And the media would expose it. And says, when you see these things, just know that it is actually my judgment that is coming on those people. So, you see how you could go from flying sharks and you're like, this is crazy, flying sharks. But when you pay attention to it and the tone in the dream, I knew that, okay, there is like, this is, there was a warning, not just a warning dream, but that there was something
Starting point is 01:14:46 like it was almost like God was giving me this revelation and I'm like, okay, there's an information I need to understand here. And then I can bring all the symbols and then the Lord starts explaining them one by one. Unbelievable, truly. Can I ask you one question? Is it okay if I fall asleep to scripture?
Starting point is 01:15:04 Absolutely. Okay, I just don't know if that's also a distraction. Oh no, because then the Word of God is life. The Word of God itself, it's like, oh yes. That's what I sleep to every night? The scripture talks about how this was the inspired word of God. Like it is active, it is living, it is breathing. And so if you're like, because when you're sleeping to it, your spirit is meditating on that.
Starting point is 01:15:33 It's so true. Oh, yeah. So now the key thing is now when you wake up, so there's how you prepare to go to bed, but there's also how you prepare when you wake up. So when you wake up, your phone should not be the first thing you reach. Because now you're coming out of the place where God placed, put the message. So you're coming out of a spiritual place and you go right back into the physical.
Starting point is 01:15:54 You're like, oh phone, distracted. Now your thoughts, okay, schedule was, you know, X, Y, and Z. So when you wake up, take a moment to just say, thank you, God. Thank you. And even just pray, Holy Spirit, if there's anything you showed me, please bring it to my remembrance. And I say this for even people who have children, because sometimes you have, I've had moms, they're like, yeah,
Starting point is 01:16:16 boy, I wake up to my child screaming. What do I do then? I'm like, I wake up to my child screaming too. And I bring her into that. While I carry her, I say thank you Lord for waking me up. If there are things you want me to know, bring it to my memory. I trust you. You take a moment, take those first few moments in worship. Take it in gratitude.
Starting point is 01:16:37 Take it just to focus on the Lord and watch how all of a sudden there might be something, even later in the day, that comes back to your memory. And you're like, wait, I had a dream. And everything becomes clear, and then you can take some time, write it down, and let the Lord unpack it. Wow, good.
Starting point is 01:16:53 Thank you so much for writing this book. It truly is gonna help so many people. Like, it helped me, and I'm just so excited for you guys all to read it, please. Can you tell everyone how to get this book? Oh yeah, wherever books are sold. Okay, it's everywhere. Yeah, anywhere books are sold.
Starting point is 01:17:10 And I'm excited because it comes out in Spanish a few months after. That's so good. So good. So yeah, wherever books are sold, I encourage you, get it for yourself, get it for a loved one. I'm excited for the book because of the mission
Starting point is 01:17:24 connected to the book, above anything else. loved one. I'm excited for the book because of the mission connected to the book above anything else. Yeah, and we're gonna put the link in the, what's it called? Description. Description box. Take an order. Yeah, you're gonna change lives with this. Amen. Thank you so much for writing it
Starting point is 01:17:39 because we need to walk in the prophetic. We need to be in touch. We need for it to not be weird or taboo or overly spiritual. Because it's who we are. Yeah. It's literally who we are. Yeah. So thank you so much, Stephanie.
Starting point is 01:17:52 We adore you. Thank you for everything you do. Thank you, thank you, thank you. I know our GGB family just adores you. How could they not? I love them. I love them. We love you so much.
Starting point is 01:18:03 We love you so much. And we love you. We learn so much from you. God bless you. We love you so much. We love you so much. And we love you. We learn so much from you. God bless you. Thank you, Jesus, for your life. Thank you. Seriously, thank you, Jesus.
Starting point is 01:18:11 I'm excited for you. I'm excited to see you guys on the road. Thank you. Thank you, guys. Oh, sorry. Sorry, it's number six. Thank you, GGB. Love you!

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