Girls Gone Canon Cast - A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms — Season 1, Episode 3 — "The Squire"

Episode Date: February 4, 2026

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Hello and welcome back to Girls Gone Canon watches a Night of the Seven Kingdoms, season one, episode three, The Squire. I'm one of your hosts, Chloe. And I'm another one of your host, Eliana. Welcome back. Yes. Welcome back to your favorite sports podcast here with all of the coverage on the tilts that we'll be seeing today. That's right. We're back in Westeros, and today you have day two.

I'm sorry. You know I did sports on TV news in high school? Yes, I did. I was the sportscaster for a while. And you were very successful. You were very successful at basically every single day doing a version of, the problem with ball is they just try to walk it in. Did you see that ludicrous display last night?

That ludicrous display moss. But Chloe has real sports takes now, in case any of you haven't noticed, our character development. Yeah, and my biggest sports take is that the Super Bowl, This coming week in America does not matter because the only teams that matter are not in it. Eliana, what teams are those that matter? Because Eliana tried to name the teams that are in the Super Bowl to me. And she was like, the New York Patriots.

And I was like, oh, I know a Patriots fan is going to hear that someday and just scream. We do actually have one in our lives that helped to bring you and me together. Now that I think about it, I'm so sorry. So sorry, Shelley. Shout out Shelley. Shout out Shelley. who's not the same as Shell, by the way. Well, different, different guests.

Yeah, well, I just looped in. I was like New York's part of New England. But, yeah, anyways, A, my brain's a little stupid right now, and I was like, Chloe, I know two football teams. And they are the Eagles and they are the lions. And I care about them greatly. But they're also about the only ones that I truly know. I also know, okay. Yeah, well, that's all you need to know.

That's all you need to know. You don't need to know other teams. Like, if you just know those two, You know the important ones, so good job. I know it's when it sounds like the commanders just because, like, you know, grew up in that zone, but also was shocked when they did well last year. And also, I do still think that they should have only gone by the term Washington football team. And that is the most D.C. thing they could have done.

But they didn't. That's fine. We make our choices. Yeah, that's fair. Yeah. I think I've probably shared that take. I forgot. But you guys can just hear me say the same thing over and over again. I mean, whatever.

That's what we do, right? We read the same story over and over again. That's actually what we usually do on this podcast here, Girls Gone Canaan. If you are unfamiliar with us, we are a Song of Ice and Fire reread podcast where usually we take all of the POV chapters of a character, chunk them all together and do like a deep dive into it. And also shockingly, there's a lot of shocking. things happening this year. We are about to embark on our very last POVs. So we've covered all the other POVs already. Unless George, you have the opportunity to do something so funny right now.

Balls in your heart. Because like we have no clue what's going to happen after we finish this POV. I'm really excited about Tyrion Lanister, which might lend an interesting lens to our conversations, right? Because there is, uh, as we get closer to to Tyrion's era because we are before that still with Duncan Egg his era's tour. But you know, there's a lot of characters connected to him. We have

Rowan Weber coming up in the next season. I mean, lots going on. And also, this is a great opportunity to remind you of our spoilers policy, which is everything. If it's been published or put on a screen in the Ace Woff cinematic

or book, universe count it in. We will talk about it. Hell, I've even talked about the telltale games before. So just consider it fair game. Of Thrones. This is for seasoned fans, right? This is, uh, get out.

And, okay, so now that you're initiated, you're past the spoilers policy, back to the good shit. There's something crazy happening that, like, I think is maybe the first in HBO Game of Thrones world history. So it's cool to experience this with you all in that

because of the Super Bowl, which is not a holiday, I just want to also point this out, HBO has premiered Game of Thrones shows during holidays before, even cash holidays, but Sunday, the Super Bowl, this weekend, coming February 8th. For the historians. They are, for the historians listening, they, that's our usual night, right?

After the Super Bowl or during, is when it's supposed to happen, 10 p.m. well, E.T. The right time zone. E.T. 10 p.m. But it's going to premiere Friday. They're going to premiere a Game of Thrones show on a Friday. And they're going to premiere it at 12 a.m. P.T. 3 a.m. E.T. or it's 1201 a.m.

I'm sorry. I don't want to spread misinformation and lies like I always do. But 1201 a.m. PT. 301 a.m. ET. Like that's That's insane, what? We're getting an HBO show a couple days early So they don't miss the views

Because of the Super Bowl And everybody's like going home drunk From their friends After eating too much buffalo chicken dip I feel like back, back, back in the day When people watched more things Like on television versus streaming They would move things

Like around the holiday But a day later, not earlier, right? But also like, okay, is it, Are they, I have many questions because I'm stupid and I don't understand. So this means that I don't have to stay up late on Thursday. I can just, it's available at all times on Friday and therefore thereafter. Okay.

And then like, and it's going to be available. Are they also moving industry? Yes, industry is also, I didn't look it up, but industry will also be out probably when you wake up. Okay, so both of the shows are being moved. That's crazy. That's really interesting. Isn't that insane? And they, like, especially that they are conceding.

that they will lose screen time to people that are watching the Super Bowl. So instead of that, they are playing smarter and giving people that watch the Super Bowl more time to tune in. And what's crazy is we this week are releasing this whenever we feel like, as we said we were going to do. So we're also going to play with those repercussions. But like, what are their repercussions? Like, how much are they going to lose viewership? And they made a gamble, like, that they'll get more viewership Friday. And Saturday all day and Sunday before the Super Bowl.

Yeah. Then they would if they release it after. I think that's really respectable. Interesting. What if they're also testing just in general, like doing a, like Friday release days nowadays, as people stay in more nowadays, but also just like, because, you know, back in the day, it didn't make sense to ever release things on Fridays, but now they're like, maybe it does with streaming. Like, I don't know.

I don't know. They're just like, we're in a different world now. But it all has different rules. Like, Bridgerton just put out the first four episodes, right? Yeah. On like a random fucking day, I think it was like the 29th of January. They put out their first four episodes. And I'm like, this is just chaos.

People are just like making it up. They're just like, what if we drop this like this? What if we like pat our stomach and rubbed our head at the same time? I don't know. Like, they're just making shit up with a streaming cap. Well, I think that's the thing. That's like how testing works. You like pick something.

You're like, you have a hypothesis. You see it like if it's going to work. But yeah, so it's like, I don't know. I'm like, I'm interested in whatever it is that they're doing just because I'm curious how it plays out for them. But also, maybe they're like, people will watch it beforehand and talk about it even more when they meet up with one another. Oh, at the Super Bowl. Yeah, I don't know. Interesting.

It's just hard to ratify this because, like, there's the Catholic side of me and I'm like, it's Sunday. That means Game of Thrones. You know, time to pray. Yeah. I learned something interesting this past weekend, which was... Go on. So, Mexico, usually they have a lot of avocados, right? They are grown, many of them, grown in Mexico. But they only have experienced avocado shortages during one time of the year,

and that is around the Super Bowl, because all the avocados get shipped to the U.S., because everyone likes guacamole so much. Wow. I didn't know it was so popular. I like it. But yeah, that's the thing that I learned. I'll never forget that place that we went and I had that salsa area that was mixed with avocado. That was good.

That you took me to. That was a great place. I will also never forget the time that there was at one point such an abundance of avocados in general. I don't know if it was in the country, but especially in Philadelphia. Do you remember they had that event? Like you would just show up to a park and they were just giving away free avocados to people. They were just given two avocados to every single. person, yeah.

It was just an overproduction and people weren't buying it. Yeah, I remember that because I was also working in the area in food stuff at the time. So, like, it was crazy. That was crazy. God. Well, we're going to get into some of the shortages in Westeros read, Honor today. Whoa. And overabundance of stupidity.

So before we get into that, we have a couple of letters, emails, et cetera. messages, love notes, love letters sent from long-distance lovers. So this first one comes from our friend Deo, which says, after watching the latest episode of The An Night in the Making where Ira compares the tourney to Coachella, I'm convinced that he is a GGC fan and he's secretly binge listening to your novella's coverage while pretending its research for the tourney. And I'm like, did I read the, did I watch the wrong? Is A Night in the Making not the same thing as the thing that happens after that? episode because I don't remember him saying that because I was like explicitly listening for it

when I watched it now but regardless the point is I too wish to believe hi Ira what's up come on our podcast what if he did I mean that be wild that would be I'm I'm here for it that's why I invited him just now balls in your court I issued a challenge as though he were one of the five champions of the tourney. I'm telling you, that kid looks just like every boy that likes A-Swaff. It's nuts. It's crazy. With no offense meant, and that means you should come on our podcast.

Representative of the people, Ira Parker. Yeah, I love that. I think that's so fun. The tents in the episode were really fun, too. They were like vibrant, and there's so much vibrancy going on. Get out. I'm so sick of it with you. Um, this is very sweet, though. Thank you so much. This is funny. I'm going to say maybe because we're doing it. I mean, he has a lot of opportunities, right?

Yeah, I think so. And so, I'm just saying, I, it could be true. It could be true. There's no proof that there's, in fact, there's no proof that, like, I'm not Ira Parker. Like, no one's ever seen us in the same room. Okay. Thank you so much. Teo for your wonderful email. I really appreciated it. We got an email from Matt O. This is Matt O, I believe. And Matt said, Hi, girls.

Hi, Matt. I always like talking back during the fan mail. And you know what? It's what you guys got. Hi, girls. Hi, Matt. I was reflecting on the opening scenes before episode three and noticed it began with dunk pooping

and then the big cock. And I happened to say to my partner, I wonder if each episode will open with something funny for the shock factor. We get to episode three and sure enough, the horse starts pooping. Yes, I was, I was wondering if this is becoming a thematic. Nice. I was like, see, I'm on to something. And my partner said, the show is now the Sharts and Shafts show.

Oh, that's funny. Should we read that? Now, I thought this was very funny, funny enough to email and share with you. But yeah, more stuff about episode three to show I'm analyzing it with a true gusto. Oh, I appreciate that. Egg's line supposed to have hair on your stone, so good. Those two have such good chemistry. That's so real.

I laughed a lot of that. Speaking of chemistry, when they're impersonating each other, being sarcastic, gold mine. Yeah, absolutely. And huge pivot. How could the mummers afford to pay for that detailed dragon puppet? The teeth alone, I was like, they gotta cost a bunch of gold, silver, IDK. Yeah. Matt says, thanks for reading and that, and I don't have a cool ass-off name.

I'm like, aw. Well, it's not too late. And yeah, I guess like it kind of opened initially much quieter with the sleeping in like very directly right after, which I thought was kind of cute. And I was like kind of kind of interesting of egg to just be watching Dunk as he's sleeping. But turns out it's because he was sneaking away. But I also noticed the horse pooping parallel and combined with egg's speech regarding the way that his father Maycar treats horses. And how he, you know, he doesn't think that like you need to talk to them or treat them very well. I thought it was kind of meant to be even the parallel between how dunk and the lower classes are treated and perceived as like just workhors as very subhuman by the other nobles.

So I thought that was nice. And also, as you said, like, the chemistry is fun. Like, I like, you know, kind of also dunk me like, why are you telling me that regarding like care growing on the stones? But I'm not, I don't want to talk about it too much, but I do think like even that was kind of interesting to me. I'm not trying to speculate on like child's like whatever hair and stones but I was like oh

we don't it felt like interesting because at that point in the show if you don't know which I assume you all do because you're here in where spoilers all podcast and this is our third time covering this exact fucking story because we forgot to tell you at the beginning of this episode

this is our third time doing this we just covered like the short story this is based on it implies that egg's hair is black right because why would the carpet Right like a misguidance Like you would assume

You would assume But we know that it's not That his hair is more like Mek cars But that's not crazy also because He has family members that do So like it's interesting that the Dornish I guess genes express

In a different area of the body I don't want to be gross I'm not trying to be gross I'm not trying to be gross about it and like analyze like, but I just think it's interesting because of George's approach to genetics and inheriting traits. Yeah. Interesting.

It makes, yeah, like, if that's true, what Ag is saying, maybe he's using it to misguide, dunk, or something. Yeah. Yeah. Who knows. Oh, yeah. But it could be true. Based off of his Dornish, he does have Dornish blood, so. Yeah, it could be because of Diana Dane is really, you know, the truth. Who knows? I'm not that curious about it, but I thought it was very funny, especially because I think, more importantly, you know, he's like attaching himself to Dunk and he's like, be my new dad. And Dunk is like, what?

And he's like, my dad was terrible. I never knew him. Ha, ha, ha, ha. Anyway, be my dad. Yeah, I love that bit of them, like that he's like, I really just need some sort of trusted human adult to that's normal in my fucking life, dude. So please be that person because no one in my life is normal. And that's what Dunk is about to learn. right?

Yeah, that is true. Like, I guess just like looking for protection in love and he's a forgotten child down the line that no one cares about. I mean, it took till like day two of the tourney for his dad to get off his ass to go look for him during Aryan's bout. Uh-oh, we'll get to that. But I also want to add that that's like their whole job. The mummers with the puppets like that, like making them, repairing them,

putting on the shows. Like, that's what they do. they're artists and they travel and also are probably as we see they're persecuted against greatly for many reasons. Kind of reminds me a bit of like, you know, different people that travel and get forced out of their own homes like because of, you know, many reasons and whether ethnic cleansing, et cetera, like the Roma or like, you know, we look at Native American people and all these sorts of people that live places or other stories that tell similar other people that have had

to leave. And the Dornish are very that, right? Historically, if you listen to our holding in Dorn episodes, you'll hear a lot about that with Dorn and about their people and where they come from and the hardship they go through. So, uh, interesting that this is their life. Their, their life's work, right? Making these puppets, telling these stories, being storytellers. And we see that daily, I mean, in stories in real life of people like, silenced for being storytellers and for care. carrying on, even something that isn't important, as we'll see, Aryan freaks out about it, but, like, it's a story that happened that's dramatized for entertainment. Yeah.

I mean, I like what you said. Like, this is their job. It makes sense for them to invest in something, especially if it's going to, you know, bring in more of their business. If they're doing that, like, you know, that's a whole tax write-off for them. Yeah. Well. That expenditure.

But also, jokes aside, in regards to what? you were saying about the way that they're going about this and being... I actually thought you were going to talk about Plato's Republic and how Plato was... No, yeah, actually. He was kind of like anti-the-Arts because he saw its ability, its power, when it comes to how it can influence opinion when it comes to politics, which I don't think is a bad thing.

And that is something that is explored in this very episode, and I wonder how much more they'll dig into it in the next episodes. I'm not sure. But also, like, you were talking about our folding and Dorn series. And we promised you the part three this month of February. But we're not sure yet. We can. We don't know.

We're deciding what seat can I take. It's Friday. Friday. Next episode's out Friday. Yeah. And by the next episode, you know, the Seven Kingdoms, not our podcast. we have to obviously record afterwards. Very interesting.

Really, really enjoyed that email from Matt O. Thanks, Matt. Yeah. Then we have a comment here from Clay, Aliana. Yeah, so we'll probably bring this comment up again when we return to our Aswoff, POV, reread coverage, but I wanted to flag it solely because it came in quite recently on a Brienne episode,

which means that it is on theme, specifically for Night of the Seven Kingdoms, because it is confirmed that Brienne is a descendant of Sir Duncan the Tall and Clay says of all your podcasts, this is the one that will stick with me the longest. I think thank you for your perspectives. Yep, this was the one where our friend Sam of the Rainbow Guard joined us. So Sam brought a lot of really great content on gender

and a lot of different blurring of the lines with Brienne. So I would love to hear what Sam is thinking during this season. Yeah, that's true. I'd love to hear what he's up to with that. I wonder if he's writing any blogs. Oh, yeah. This is episode 147 for folks looking to review. And then our friend Alex, aka Parallax, whom you all know.

I just wanted to throw this in because I felt validated of, OMG, I love the web comic of the Ditto Raising Charmander. And there's also Diary of a Charmander, which is Dark Humor, but I love that one too. I don't know if I remember Diary of Charmander. So I'll have to think about it and check that out again, because I might have, I've read quite a few, like, darker Pokemon comics, and I've mixed feelings about them, but yeah.

Interesting. There's like a Nuslock one that I used to read where they would die. Yeah. What? Yeah. Why? That's how a Nuslock run works. Have you, like, okay.

Are you familiar with the term Nuslock, Chloe? No. I don't do fan fit. It's not a fan fix. So a Nuslock run is a specific type. of run you would do in a Pokemon game in which you can only, I think, capture like the first, there's different ways

you can go about it. There's different parameters and rules that people will do with it. But for the most part, it has to do with like when you have a Pokemon, like if it dies, not dies, if it faints in battle, you have to release it. It's considered like that your Pokemon died. And you

have to name your Pokemon when you capture them and you can only capture like certain kinds or like so many Pokemon, which like increases, you know, the way that you, the preciousness of the ones that you have on your team and you have to name them so you really build an emotional bond and don't want them to die. Huh. Okay.

This is a thing. And what Pokemon game do you play this with? You can do it. You can do a Nuslock game on any of the Pokemon games, a Nuslock run. It's just a style in which you would play it. I mean, you probably couldn't play it on Pokemon Pinball. I don't know. Or, like, stadium, but, like, any of the, you know, main line of the games.

Their asswaf version, you know? I mean, it makes sense. Like, I'm just trying to wrap my head around how I've never played this way. I never even considered that I could put rules like this upon myself. Well, there's a lot of rules that people might impose upon themselves. Some of them will do, like, you can only have Pokemon of maybe, I don't know, not for NusLox, like a certain type, or like you can only go as far as you can with one Pokemon, and you'll, like, do a randomizer at the beginning.

So, like, it's not necessarily the three starters at the beginning. It could be like, you could end up starting with, like, a gloom. A rando. Yeah. Okay. That's crazy. And, like, you're blowing my mind and I've been playing Pokemon since I was four. Okay, like for reference.

So, like, or six or some shit. Yeah, I don't know. There's a whole world out there. Yeah. Yeah. wild well we're gonna catch all of those details from this episode with you wow incredible not as good as some of eliana's segways earlier you had a great one earlier that I was like okay eleana I don't know what it was back at it I don't either but it was good it was smooth yeah my god

well I want to get into the structure of the episode there is something I really loved in this episode the squire in that it kind of ties in with the other pieces of of Aeswaffe media and also stories, right? If we compare the Dance of the Dragons and the Fire and Blood and Princess and the Queen and Rogue Prince novellas and their kind of existence. And then look at also the show, Hot D. And then look at Aeswaffe in Game of Thrones.

You have Ned and Sonsa Terny chapters. You have, in Hot D, you have the Reneer attorney scene. You have Aria Joffrey Sanzah and their fight on the Trident. And then you have also the kids fighting over Vagar. And then here you have Dunk and Egg in their tourney chapters. Aryan Egg, Tancel, Dunk with the extreme punishment in the face of honor. And then you have the death of someone who could have potentially been a good ruler for the throne or kept the peace for the kingdom. and then it, you know, like it's always these one-one kind of bits that George really loves to employ in his stories.

And I love that as just like a very cemented plot structure and something to kind of exist within and let all the scenes play around that. I don't know. I found it really fun to think about that this time while watching that episode and watching The Turney and Arian. Yeah, plus, I mean, yeah, horse is dying. Yeah, he does a lot of things where he pulls a bunch of stuff into it for this. so many echoes, et cetera. And I like what you pulled out, especially in regards to also the Ned Sons-Aterni chapters because, as well as that, it's like, and we've discussed this in, I don't know,

probably the first two times we've discussed this exact story. But, and I know you talked about it in, like, last month in very recent weeks as well, of, like, we are deconstructing what it means when it comes to, like, these stories about chivalry, et cetera. And there's a lot of meta discussion about stories this very episode as well. Yeah.

That was awesome. I thought of you immediately. Actually, I think of you like within two things on everything, but... Don't we always think about each other, you and I, immediately when you watch any, like, of the Game of Thrones episodes. Like, my first thought is always like, wow.

Chloe's like literally... I guess it's not as special. The opening moment I'm like, hmm, Chloe is going to think something about that. Like, every single time I'm like, what will Chloe think? That's it. You're just always in my heart. I was like, am I not always in her heart? What the fuck?

We're coming up on Valentine's Day, so I should be a little more affectionate. You're right. I'm sorry. I'll behave. I'll think about you more. No, I'm just kidding. Think of me. I loved.

Think of me. Sonny. Okay. I love dunk teaching egg just so. Yeah. I thought that was great. Like, again, I think of how Ag is kind of seeking out some sort of paternal friendship, right? Just like our friends, like John Snow likes to do, for example.

But he's seeking out someone to love him and teach him how to do things. Like, he was last. He was last place. He literally was born in last place in his family, you know? Like, he wasn't doing shit for the family. They didn't have these expectations of him. And so he's out here. like catching fish with his bare hands.

He's learning how to sew. He's like, he's at summer camp right now. He's learning like moral fiber. He's out there. I'm really proud of him. He's like in scouts or something. Yeah. He is. He is. Not atrophying his brain inside.

Yeah, that's why he's got he's got to shave off all the hair to let more knowledge in. That's how it gets through. That's why I'm so dumb. I have a lot of hair, you guys. and every repost this episode gets on Twitter, we will Photoshop Egg's head a little bit bigger. Oh, that's interesting, until he's like Brainiac or something.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's very much, I like what you pointed out, because I hadn't thought about it, that Egg's just like fucking lonely. No wonder he's like, all right, there's, and like, Dunk also, as we discussed during the short stories, he seems less lonely. He's been very good at making friends in the show, but he's like he's like guy

whose best friend is child but not in a creepy way yeah and yeah they found a very unlikely friendship yeah yeah yeah and one another and well I guess we didn't talk about it here

we didn't really called it up I like when egg is telling dunk about like his dreams for the future and he he has like very humble in some ways dreams right he just wants a nice comfortable life where he can just raise some animals which is very different than I think the aspirations of some of his other family members,

but he just wants to have a good life and he wants his friend Dunk to have a good life. Yeah, he's also, Dexter is so good. He's so perfect. He got me this episode, like, so many things. I didn't watch the afters. I'm really being a freak. You have to watch them just for him. I've seen a couple clips. I love someone edited together the clip of him and Daniel Ings, where Daniel's like, I had to learn to swear around him. It was weird at first, but now I can. And then he goes, I don't like swearing. I only do it because it's my job or I only listen to it because of my job.

I'm like, okay. Like, first of all, I'm 11, so shut the fuck up. Yeah. Someone called Nathan Fielder. Totally my favorite vine. Also, save this kid. Yeah. Save this kid.

Oh, my God. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I like what you're calling out too with him and Dunk on this. I love, yeah. He wants to learn. He doesn't want to sit inside with his brain atrophying

or go stare at the tourney from the box and not be in the crowd with the people where he can learn. He doesn't want to be around his family. They aren't teaching him anything. They're losers. They are. It's like a weird way to watch too, probably from the box. That's a good point.

And in regards to like Dunk teaching Egg how to sew, That also stood out to me because I know I've had a lot of discussions with people throughout the fandom about the importance of sewing. It comes off as trivial initially until you remember, like, as my friend, Jen, aka Basemaster, was one of the mods of Asa Song of Ice and Fire. She discussed that this is important because without this skill, all of you were going to fucking freeze during the winter. None of you will have anything to wear. But the fact that we're seeing dunk doing it and that he's saying that this is like a typical role that a squire would fulfill means that it isn't only women's work.

So why is it only degraded as such or why do we only think about it in those contexts? It makes perfect sense that of course squires and lights would know how to need to know how to repair their own wares. But also like even if you think about it, armours would have to know how to do so as well if they're making you know, armor out of leather, they would obviously know how to sew. Yeah, it connects him to all of the small folks that so far. The sex workers in the beginning episodes, when they're in camp sewing the men's clothing. Yeah. And then also steely paint as an armor and now dunk sewing his own.

He's not below them and they're not below him. Yeah, it forces you how to question, like what we consider below what we do, et cetera, in regards to gender, but also class because we're seeing that egg in learning. this skill. Throughout like the past three episodes, he's not, as you point out, he's like catching fish. He doesn't feel above the work. He just feels above pints of beer, which like, could it be because it, is it because it because it's just nine and doesn't like beer, which is valid. But like, Dunk points out later on in this episode, Egg is a good worker when he puts his mind to it, which like, I don't think is really necessarily classing. I'm just like, I was a lazy

little kid. And also, it shows, like, how Egg's views on, like, horses, you know, coming back to that sort of metaphor, like, they differ from Maycar's, especially because, like, we see that it's probably similar to how Maycar views the people who work for him. None of it is below egg. He's like, this is important. It's a good, too, because again, it goes back to Agan Blackfire, the sixth, quote, unquote, you know, like, he was raised to do these things and live amongst people. Yeah. Pick one, pick one. But no, but, you know, egg wasn't supposed to, and this is valuable.

Like, understanding what all people live and go through, not just the family and the high lords that are in the big castle day by day. Like, the monotony of that must also grate on you when it's not meant for you. Yeah, that's true. You're not welcome in it. Robert didn't Barathean, because there are more than one. He didn't feel even welcoming it. Yeah. That place eats people, bro.

Well, too bad. He's doomed to it. Anyway. We'll get to that. Sucker. The hello operator, like, Egg's little Miss Mary Mac hand clapping song, the Blackfire song.

Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, my God. I didn't think about it was Miss May Mac. Yeah, it's totally like, you got your clapping with your girlfriend. This is me clapping for those listening. Miss Mary Mac Mac Mac I could probably still do that one

Yeah exactly And then like hello operator Like Miss Lucy Especially because the whole goal Is like that it gives children a way To say bad words without saying them Like so You know like that's what he's doing

Like there's little words he's cutting off Like kick there It's like a very rhythmic thing Yeah okay That's so that's good I just kept thinking of welcome to Dulac, but you're so right, that is what happens in, I forgot the hello operator. I remember Miss Mary Mac.

I think I could still do it because that one was a speed game and I could do Down Down Baby. Oh yeah, I couldn't do Down Down Baby. I never got that one down, but I loved it. Like I liked watching it. I love the art of Down Down Baby, but yeah, Miss Lucy. I know at my heart. Yeah. Oh, wow.

Yeah. In fact, I did it for Emmett. I turned to my roommate during the episode. and I was like, oh my God, Miss Lucy. And he's like, what? And I'm like, Miss Lucy had a steamboat. The steamboat had a bell. Miss Lucy went to heaven.

The steamboat went to hello operator. Give me number nine. And if you disconnect me, I will kick you right behind. The refrigerator. There was a piece of glass. Miss Lucy fell upon it. And she broke her big fat. Ask me no more questions.

Like that's the whole. It's literally the same structure. Yeah. It's the same thing. Amazing. Amazing. Snap, snap, snaps. Snaps.

I know other people have probably figured that out because like other people had the brainworm. But that was crazy to me because I like still. like still know, I could do, I could literally do the hand clapping to it. Yeah, that's like I challenge any of you. JK, like, what if not JK, I don't know. Patreon stretch goal. Just kidding. Yeah, like I said, and also like besides that it made me even think of like, you know,

ring around the rosy, which may or may not actually be about the bubonic plague, unsure, or like London Bridge is falling down, falling down, you know, this idea of like the songs, the children's songs passing. on like knowledge about certain things in the world or history or whatever. Yeah. And I like that a lot. And I also think there's some like great continuation in that it adds so much depth to the world to have like the children of the world having, you know, like they're heroics like the last episode where he's like die blackfire bastards with a sword in his hand and like playing pretend. Like he's doing things that children do.

They're children. and they should be childish. A child once said, quote unquote, Marcella. But, like, also these are the things that he hears and he's taught. And it makes sense in a way that we haven't really received in depth in the cinematic Acewaffe universe. Shoot me. It makes sense, like, to add that depth, right? Like, even when we first came in with Plummer and his kids running around

when Dunk is trying to sign up to be in the competition, to be in the tourney, the kids are like a foot and running around and it just adds a little bit of detail to the world that makes it feel very lived in and I really love that. Yeah, and I guess I realize maybe we should tell you what is referenced in this song. It is about the hammer and the anvil, which are the names for Baylor who plays the hammer in this battle and Makar, the anvil in it. They both get named in this. it is regarding their battles against the Blackfires, as Chloe mentioned. And this one specifically is referring to the battle at Red Grassfield, which, as I was discussing with our Frencho Magician, is actually the only named battle.

It is the only battle that we know, considering that everyone was like, there were so many bloody battles. I'm like, this is the only one we know from the rebellion. And the strategy that Baylor and Maycar used to come at the Blackfire forces from two sides, and therefore pin them. And it does actually get referenced again in the Barristan sample chapters. So, fun facts. I also find it interesting because it also speaks to the idea that children in Westeros

memorize a song about a very specific take about a big battle that happened in history and they are made to sing it question mark or learn it. I'm not totally saying pledge of allegiance, but like I am saying like it's interesting that this is one of the many songs that children, you know. Well, you're not. There's something going on there. You're not wrong because like...

The blackfires sucked. Like, I do get that, but not all of them. And like, like, yeah, their whole thing is kind of like, you know, racist against Dorn, basically. But also like, you know, they were born from Targaryens too. They're just you. but also different you that wants to battle you. So like no matter, like, yeah, I get it.

They're a threat to the Targaryans, but like, it's really crazy PR work they did to then angle it. Be like, no, all the Blackfires are bastard pretenders. And, you know, like, I don't know. It's interesting. It's propaganda. It's Targaryan propaganda that the country knows. Especially because as you and I discussed during our Maiden Vault episodes,

is it because Baylor was afraid of Diana's, or sorry, Dana, however you want to pronounce your name, Dana that defines. Yeah, Diana. claim and paella no claim to the throne

since she was older but also like and had a lot of supporters you were talking about it being a song this episode is about propaganda right like that is something

that comes up at the end and even like again Plato's Republic he found music very very scary and insidious and the fact that

someone made this song and it's all around the country kingdoms everywhere this fast if all the kids know it, which I assume, like, it's pretty fast. No wonder also egg is like, did Alice really

exist? Because, and we'll get to more of that because he's like, well, this song's about a real history. Maybe that one is. I don't know. Anyways. Yeah. I love that we got that intro to Robin Reesling, which I'm going to call it Reesling because it's right there's. I agree. No, I think it is reeling because of the wine. Like, you have the red wines. So it should be, in my opinion, Riesling. Yeah. That's kind of why I called it that, because it's from the fucking reach. So this is my first big beef. Ira Parker, come settle this beef on my podcast. It was probably just the way the actress said it. I'm like hating. I'm a hater. Robin Reesling, fight me. Ira Parker. Real Blood Raven, you're on hours. I loved his like speaking of himself in third person as like,

they are this. We are that. I'm like, but also like as someone else in there with you? Like maybe, you don't know. It's a swath. Yeah. Yeah. For a moment I was like, is this supposed to be blood raven? in a disgunties, and then they said who it was. And I was like, oh, yeah, I guess, yeah, him. And then... See, and I felt that way later in the episode, too, at a point. And I'm like, is Blood Raven everywhere? Like, are we about to be paranoid about Blood Raven hours until he shows up, shows up?

I mean, that's how everyone else feels out there. So, yeah. And... Yeah. Also, part of me, like, not to bring her up. I don't want to. But, like, was like, is this, like, a mad-eye moody thing? Because they were talking about the madness thing a little.

Which just come up later, but... I did think about that. I actually was wondering if our dear friends, Zach and Hannah, bring it up, but I didn't listen to them yet, but I bet they might over a game of owns. I'll have to check it out. But yeah,

I said the same thing. I was like, wow, that's what they meant to do in that movie. Bailed. I don't even remember what happens to those. I just know the name. I was like,

yeah, me either. I do love what they did with him, though. I love that he's off-putting. I like that we're having this kind of like off-putting meeting with him. Yeah. That he, like, assumed egg stole the horse immediately. It's going to be very fun to come back to him and him join Dunk's side later. Yeah, true.

So looking forward to that. And I also liked the scene with Dunk and his two eggs that he got because it kind of reflects the lost Targaryans, right? It reflects Egg and Darren. Two eggs. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it does. I didn't think about that, but I feel like your thing better because I was thinking, oh, yeah, he's just, emphasis, it's a joke about asking for eggs, right?

And we got a kid here named egg, and it's all about him. And also, I thought about, you know, dunk not killing the goose. The goose is about to be beheaded, and we're like, no, no, no, I don't have more cruelty on the screen. And then later on me do get it with Arian killing the horse and the guy coming out to put the horse out of its misery. A lot of horse stuff, because even during, like, the Robin Riesling thing, like, it also made me think of... Oh my God, I loved that scene. Yeah, with the egg, it makes me think of like, I think you brought it up last episode, right? Like, the gentleness of like Dunk and the horses and their special connection.

And now Egg has one too. And of course, the parallels with one of Dunk's descendants, Chloe's fave, Sandra Clayton. Yeah. And also, like, that's a great. I love what you brought up here. I think that's a great point because you also have, like, you know, once you've ingratiated yourself with someone's animals. like you're in. You can't just leave their lives.

Like, I don't know. I have a friend, a dear friend that her husband really wants a cat and they adopted one during like the cold winter months. And by adopted, it was like outside and they brought it in because it was fucking freezing and they felt bad during a snowstorm.

So they brought it in. Yeah. And now it's lived there like two and a half months and I'm like, girl, that's your cat now. And she's like, no, it's not. we haven't decided to keep it. I'm like, it's been like almost three months, like a quarter, girl, like a business quarter. That's your cat. So, I mean, once you're in, you're in with animals.

Yeah, especially like, well, first of all, with the cat, it's, does the cat think that chews you as well? Because that cat, if it lived a life outside, might be like, I don't know, maybe I'll come here sometimes, but, because they give me food. But there's a, there's a loyalty as well. Yeah. Yeah. Aw.

It was sweet, especially because we see him with a lot of interactions with thunder. and there were a lot of sweet moments in this episode. Like, I loved Dunk and Egg eating those breakfast sandwiches. I know in the after the episode, they were talking about how they wanted to be like, oh, you know, food tastes better when you've, like, worked and so forth, and you're starving for it. But them eating the breakfast sandwiches under the tree,

it felt very much the way it was framed, like a mirror of when Dunk and Arlen were under the tree in the rain. And I was like, aw, they're becoming our own version of this sort of like relationship. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I love that. That's so real because it goes back to like what we've been saying, the generational like passing.

Yeah, exactly. Now dunk is Arlen's legacy and he realizes egg is how he's going to make that legacy. Yeah, it's de Grasie the next generation. And whatever it takes, I know I can make it through. Speaking of important songs. Uh-uh. You need the best I can. Also, regarding the discussion of food, last episode's title, as you all know, is called

Hard Salt Beef. And I do think this is actually much more explicitly something that is more appreciated perhaps on the rewatch slash reread of the short story because it is, in my opinion, a direct reference to Prince Makar saying about princes at the end of the novella. Princes are not made for sleeping in ditches and eating hard salt beef, especially the way that that episode opens. them emphasizing and kind of dropping hints about Egg's background and that he is committed to now like this way of life. So I do think that that is why that episode is entitled as such.

This episode is also, of course, called The Squire being about Egg and how he's not just a squire. Aw. B Squire, not A Squire. Good call. He's an Esquire. He's a lawyer. I mean, kind of. He does defend Dunk. I mean, yeah, kind of. Esquia. That's French. Esquia. I love Makar leaving the tourney to find his other kids that are like 2% better than Aryan. He's like, uh, I really gotta get those kids back. You're bad enough. Yeah. But also, straight up during the tourney, I thought, I was just thinking about the song from

Austin Powers, the Daddy Wasn't Their song. I don't remember that one. Please remind it. For me. My God. Long story short, it's like, Daddy wasn't there to take me to the fair to change my underwear. Uh, daddy wasn't there. But that basically happened while Aryan was jousting. I was like, oh, poor hurt, Arian. I was definitely really, I liked Arian's portrayal this time, as it should be, but oh my God, poor horse, poor horse, terrible.

I didn't even think about that. That's such a great call out that he was partially like kind of acting up, maybe a little because of a, yeah, he said that his dad didn't come to watch him play the game. Wow. I love the Helms. The Helms, like, Arians in particular looks so funny, it looks like a weird, like,

I don't know, ridiculous with the flames coming out of the back of the head. They're so stupid, but they're so real. And I love that. I love that the helms look so ridiculous, because that's kind of, I think, the whole point. They're supposed to look a little ridiculous. I love the helms, and I love that they're stupid, too,

but also Ariens is really, really cool. It's cool and stupid at the same time. They modeled it after Finn's face. They modeled it off of his actual face. The actor. And then, yeah, the actor, and then they shaved off bits of it. Oh, that's pretty neat. Yeah.

I don't know. like everything that they're doing and like, I mean, it was even called out, I guess. It plays in well with Steely Pate talking about the style of helms that he typically makes, but I don't know, I feel like I've seen, I've seen something that looks like that helm before somewhere. Like, I don't know, in a video game or something. It was just so funny. It's so funny. I like it. I don't know. Maybe not in a video game. Or like, uh, like, I was, I'm thinking like, I don't know. Remember, this isn't exactly what I'm thinking of. but remember in Crash Bandicoot,

the little feathery fellow that flies around. There's something about it that gives me a little bit of that vibe, but like other things too. I really love the demonic look, though, for sure. I think you've mentioned they look like Crash Bandicoot guys, and I totally see it. And man, he was evil. He was very evil.

Yeah. I like also that they have him, Aryan, give a little shove with the lance to really drive it home to the viewers that he did mean to do this, that removes that sort of. ambiguity because I mean like let's be for real he fucking did he meant to do it which is not great for the horse and also I as an aside I would love to see more of like little Gwyn Ashford I think that she's so funny she's not meant to be funny in those scenes and I'm not saying

she is but like she's an absolute show stealer for me I would love to see I don't know more about like what she's about yeah crazy that a guy threw a whole ass rock at Aryan's head like I thought that was a very bold move. I'm like, wow, we, that's dangerous. Not that what Aryan did wasn't dangerous, but like, oh, that you were risking, I don't know, really like injuring and maybe hurting a prince there. Maybe that's meant to like make us feel uneasy. Like, oh, could happen.

Someone could get hurt with something hitting their helm. Yeah, it became a riot really quickly. Yeah. Like, it was stirred up quickly. So you can actually really feel the temperature heating up in Westeros and in the small folk. I mean, it kind of makes you realize why it couldn't keep going in a trajectory that allowed for them not to want more rights. Yeah. Yeah, that's true.

And also, like, that's an ongoing thing throughout this episode. Like, yeah, like, and that comes up, for example, in the discussion where Dunk goes with, like, with Raymond Fossaway and who, I love this, like, little detail change, but he invites Dunk for Sider. instead of wine because, you know, they got apples and whatnot. But yeah, like, you can really kind of see what you're talking about in regards to the people are unhappy. You know, they want to be able to speak about it. And the good news is there are no dragons or the bad news if you like dragons. But like, if you're a small folk, there are no dragons. So, like, the rules being enforced probably are a little different these days than they used to be. Yeah. Well, I mean, like, even the language, right, that Raymond uses is quite strong in describing Targaryians. Yeah. Also, did you know that the word

Alien is in Ace Woff 10 times in the entire series, and it's always like referencing, always mildly xenophobic, like, referencing something from the East. Yeah. Because I was straight up when they kept using it in the ads, I was like, Oh, did they? Does George use Alien in this? Yeah, they had it in some of the ads, and I was like, is that really George approved language?

And I was like, oh, shit, it is. It fucking is. It did strike me as interesting. Like, it did stand out because I feel as though, yeah, I don't hear it in the books that often, but it must be there, and the usage, as you said, it makes sense. Like, I wouldn't be surprised if it's in fire and blood, for example, in the discussion of, like, Rigo draws, right? And, yeah, really shows the erosion.

I wanted to say that might have been one of them. That makes sense. Now that you say it. Like, the erosion of public trust and, like, I don't know, speaking of all that propaganda and stuff, like, it's interesting to me that Aryan's all like, well, the dragon ought never lose, because I'm like, well, honestly, the dragon's the one taking the most ls out of all of these

wars because in most of the wars that really fucked up Westrose it was dragon versus dragon so like if anything the dragon is the only one guaranteed to lose because they have to right? Like that's just logic

and odds like one of them is going to die yeah in the joust of fun yeah so I don't know that kind of stood out to me the sports betting plot stood out to me. I thought that was crazy

that the steward... I think it's a nice plot edition. Yeah. This is hashtag draft king sponsored this episode. That would be crazy if they did. Yeah, the steward... It's a nice addition, though, all that said. The steward trying to corrupt dunk, I think that's great because, you know, his honor. And dunk stands up against sports betting, I'm guessing.

I'm guessing he's not going to do it. Because that wouldn't ring right, wouldn't ring true. makes me wonder if the steward might reward him anyways and then they have a nice bit of gold to go off with. Yeah, I thought it was a good addition, especially because it brings more depth, some seriousness to the steward because, you know, he is rooting for Dunk in a lot of ways. He's just a guy. Yeah, as you said, he's just a guy.

Like, he's rooting for Dunk, but at the same time, he's shrewd. He understands the reality of the world. Dunk doesn't quite say no yet. He does, as you said. Like, he initially is like, whoa, no. But the series was like, I don't know. Think about it. like and dunk is tempted to do it because like now he knows to an extent he kind of needs to it's emphasized more than once in this that like egg brings up you know he tells the horse like if dunk doesn't win both you and I are out of jobs and even dunk says that to him he's like if I lose my first tilt I'm not going to be much of a knight for you to be a squire or two so he's like wow I got a family to take care of a family could sometimes just be two horses and a kid and a man yeah um

Yeah. It's not his livelihood anymore. And I thought this was an interesting question where the steward asks, Dunk, like, because you know, Dunk's all like, well, I haven't earned it. I haven't earned that victory. And the stewards, like, well, haven't you? And it's kind of, we see that the plumber is aware of the way that this world is very unfair, right?

Because regardless of whether or not Dunk accepts this. And it's kind of interesting that it's, you have to win, not like, throw the game, right? And because like regardless of whether or not dunk accepts, like the deck is always stacked. We see it in how the jousting even like here with Arian, right, plays out. It's unfair what Arian can get away with. It's unfair that he has this training and all this stuff. But yeah. And also how the steward says, well, the reins may hold out yet and they like literally don't two hours later.

That's interesting. It is unfair. Like he has to do this for everybody that's ever felt the unfairness of the fucking world. Like, that's why the steward is giving him even an opportunity too, because, like, he said earlier, he's like, I won't have it said, you know, that we hustled a farmer out of his shit and sent him on his way. Yeah. You know, he's like, the world's cruel and that's wrong of us if we do that. He's like, so, you know, if I can protect against that. So he is looking out for him.

It just helps stack his deck. And it's interesting because when we see him again staring at Dunk later in the episode, it looks like I think the Tolly guy is in there. Oh, really? I didn't check. Whatever his name is. Yeah. Interesting, yeah. Lord Toley spends his time with barstool sports and draft kings. Or what's the other one that I get ads for? I'm like, what the fuck?

Fan duel. It gives a like letter, it needs a letter K. It doesn't have the like any word about sports or betting in that name at all. What is it? Like, calce? I don't know. Something like, I don't know. I think I'm saying actually chia seeds.

Anyways. Jesus. Yeah, you're on a very different internet than I am. I think we've established. Like our feeds are different Sometimes they cross over with food But your feed and what you get on your feeds I don't know what's going on with that girl

Yeah, I don't know how you actually don't have more overlap with me To an extent when I send you some things I'm like, you haven't seen this? It's like some Hunger Games video or whatever It's a good thing though that like Dunk doesn't have to worry about making that decision anymore regarding the sports betting He just got arrested instead for assaulting a prince

So Hooray! It does remind me a little bit about like how John Snow avoids having to decide, well, I don't know, should I take Stanis's offer to go become Lord of Winterfell or not because next thing you know, he gets locked into a different job, which is becoming Lord Commander. And then he chooses the ultimate not making choices by getting killed. Oh, that's actually a really good way to get out of making decision. I think about it every day. Anyway, glossing over that. Good points. Very good points. Kind of similar.

kind of a overlapping and seceding moment there that takes all of the control of all the plot when it happens. Love that. I love the Baratian tent, as usual. I don't know whatever in the gay fuck is happening in that time, but I'm obsessed with it. I'm living for it. It's incredible.

It's so camp. The Alice song also. The whole arm bone, the fingers. Sorry, this is in a Barathean tent. this is not about Alice this is about the future man Davos Seaworth is who it's about Davos and Stanis

aka Duncan Egg No no Same characters But I feel like Duncan Egg's relationship is much less sexual Than Davos and Stanis is That's all That's the only difference I see

For obvious reasons Did dunk groom Egg Is that what you're asking? Oh my God! Please no one ever You want to talk about it? No my God please I don't want anyone to ever think... I can't believe Eliana brought this up.

Oh, my God. I can't believe Eliana from the Girls Gone Cannon podcast was talking about dunk grooming egg. Wow, you really can't just edit reality. She needs to be canceled. Anything you wanted to say. It's good that after all these... I love the meta, though. Talk about the meta.

It's good after all these years that, you know, even though it's our... third time covering this. We still have ways. We still have fun together. Oh, my God. Is she going to divorce me? Jesus. I'm going to divorce court.

Okay. What was that Alice song that you were talking about in one of the George novellas in short stories that inspired one of his other short stories? No, there was a song by Leonard Cohen, Suzanne, that inspired Bitterblooms. Yeah. I don't know why. I feel like they're one of the, you had discussed a song that had the word Alice in it that does inspire George for something or like in the context of his short stories. So that's like kind of, I was like, oh, that does feel like that.

But also, could it be a clue that once again, Ira Parker is listening to our podcast? I don't know. But also. Oh, my God. Yeah, I was like, wow, they're really into the, I don't think that was the move that it's called. But like there are certain moves like the shocker, right? Two in the pink. One in the stink.

things like that, that I was like, and I was like, wow, this is really quite the song to have Egg here for, and no wonder, Daniel Inguzley, I felt uncomfortable. He's like, this is just my job. Kids with jobs. I don't like it.

Catna's ever need to be so happy. It was just so cute, just him. Yeah, right? We love kids and jobs. I do think it's interesting for Egg to ask, do you think that this person really existed and that was actually her name because as we discussed right in regards to like well he knows that some of the songs that he sings are based off of real history but it is very much

you know in the context of Ashford tourney and as you discuss the hands tourney with Ned and Sonsa it exists in the conversation that a song of ice and fire is having of like the songs and like what do people remember about you how will they tell your story but also it's kind of funny because Egg's asking, do you think that was her name? Because he's someone who is not really going by his actual name in a way right now. Because I took it as that too. I took it as like also how will they remember him someday, right? And kind of like a, you know, like asking for a friend kind of thing from him. Who tells you're so worried. It's in my mouth. I couldn't say it because I'm like, do not sing Hamilton right now. But you know me if it's not going to be one musical,

if it's going to be another. So, but that is it. Like, Egg is also questioning who will I? He's at that age. He's questioning who will I be someday. And then he's also in this family of giants, this family of like monomiths of their own with songs about them. Like, he says to dunk in the past episodes.

And I don't think he's lying when he says, I never knew my father. He doesn't know his father. His father doesn't give him warmth. His father doesn't give anyone warmth or love. Not since Diana died. probably that's in inference but who knows even then egg would have been too young to remember the warmth from his father like he doesn't know who he is or what his place is in this family he's trying to find that he's nine years fucking old you know he doesn't know anything so to have in this moment

like have this question of like existence something so existential existential about who alice was and if it was no no i'm so sick of it To have something so existential be asked, right, of what will have, what is, like, who even knows if that's her? Like, he's also wondering, how will I be remembered? Will I even be remembered someday? And then to then basically leave this and have it tie into the prophecy that gets dropped after they're having such a good time and really having this deep introspective conversation where Egg is trying to understand who he is as a nine-year-old boy as well as like a nine-year-old Targary. Prince, then having the prophecy be dropped on him of his future, which literally boxes him in to that fate. And somebody tells him, instead of Dunk who is telling him, you can be whoever

the fuck you want to be, buddy, because that's what Dunk is showing him this entire week at the tourney. Dunk is showing him, you can dream, you can be whatever you want to be. Like, I'm being what I want to be. Like, I'm going to be a true night every day. You can be what you want to be, egg and he's the only person to ever believe in egg like egg is like whoa somebody is believing in me and then egg leaves the tent and then egg gets told no this is who you are this is what will happen to you that's crazy that was like a total tone like like roller coaster drop out of your stomach like oh poor egg he's a precocious ass little kid he's all like yeah i think her name is hope and as you said he knows that yeah no i never really did

didn't know my dad. It was a very roundabout way of answering that. I'm like, I would be mad too if I were dunk and I found all that out. And also like, you know, dunk talking to him, like, it makes sense that he's thinking about legacy because dunk was talking about that regarding like Arlen the night before. Like, I want people to remember him. So now eggs like, oh my God, death. And as you said, how will they remember me? And like the prophecy in regards to death, like, it's a little bit of a fucked up thing to say like if you're egg because for it to be said to him, you know, if someone's like, you know, if someone's like, you know, if someone's to some random-ass kid, you're going to be a king.

Like, and it is actually really, truly a random-ass kid. It doesn't mean anything. But for it to be said to egg is arguably treasonous, because it means all these people that you love are going to die. So I thought there was something too really interesting in that. Now that you bring that up, that's really interesting with like, technically it's treason. He's very unprotected. Like, dunk is also like, whoa, what the fuck?

But, like, he's not like going to kill this woman, which someone in his guard would be like, get her. There's something interesting about, like, the whole demeanor that she says it with, right? Like, she's joking with dunk and she's, like, kind of making fun of him in ways, and, like, everyone knows it's, like, a laugh, what she's doing.

And then she locks the fucking on egg when she says, you shall be king and die in a hot fire, and worms shall feed on your ashes, and all who knows you shall rejoice in your dying. And everyone shall rejoice at your your death doesn't actually, to me,

they'll be happy he died, but makes me think of Ragar's birthday party, right? Everybody at Summer Hall, the vacation home, is rejoicing when he dies. They're partying. And it starts to really set the stage also for the future of like, why do you think egg is drawn to allow the ghost of high heart at court with Jenny her dunk later in life? Do you think that keeping the ghost of high heart around helped feed some of these flames? alongside Amen fanning some of these flames along. Yeah.

Right? Like, do you think some of these conversations between them helped push him and keep him in that box of prophecy? And this is just, I guess, show canon if you have to follow a canon. But I mean, like, you know, I think it's an interesting concept to introduce because clearly egg leader in his life becomes fucking obsessed with fire. Okay? He becomes obsessed with birthing dragons from the fire.

Why does he become obsessed with that? well, a couple of reasons. Probably his maister brother sending him letters once in a while. You know, interesting research he's found about Targaryens, I'm sure. And probably because, you know, there's this crazy, doomed thing that every single fucking Targaryen ruler that we get an insight to is, you know, thinks it's them. Thinks they're the hero that has to save mankind, bro. So I don't know. but also turns it into self-fulfillment, and I really do make him, like, something about the ghost of high heart,

the ghost of high heart, and her involvement in his story and Jenny's involvement at court is interesting to me. Yeah, I didn't think about how that ties into, like, the whole ghost of high-heart thing, and for two seconds, I was like, maybe it's this woman, but I don't think it is. She's...

No. But that's a good point that it could incentivize him to keep her around and really, like, you know, seek her counsel. More prophecy. he said, more prophecy. And as you were talking about, like, all the Targaryans, mostly men, think it's them. And I'm like, wow, it's so hard being a man.

I'm thinking that it's the stories about you. My God. It's so hard. Hey, some of the women did it too. That's true. That's true. And, but I do think also, like, you're discussing how it boxes him in, and it makes me think a lot about how we discussed it in regards to DeNaris's story when we covered her

POV, which is the most recent one that we did. and what choice do you have other than when, especially if you're the last one, and he's kind of the last-ish one, you know, what choice do you have but to pursue legacy, to pursue prophecy? There are no other options. There's no chance, no choice. Yeah, the throne is cage. Yeah. I also was reminded of season one of Hot D with Reneura, who I would say also believes herself to be the main character of. the story. She is. Yeah, until she gets eaten and yeated, bro. But her in Kings Landing, down walking by all the festivities and the fire from the

dragon puppet show that she saw and how it foreshadowed her death, right? So kind of fun that we have a foreshadowing of the hero's death going on, uh, or protagonist's death. That's a good call. Kind of fun for structure, for shows. Yeah. I forgot that the puppet show did foreshadow for death. They're like, Dragons cut too. And, yeah. Wow.

And also even like, because I was even thinking of like egg, like last episode and Reneera, young Raniara seeing the puppet shows out and about. But yeah, good call. I was also thinking that it was interesting that Tanzal was one playing the night, which was Serwin of the Mirror Shield. It made me think of him as like Serwyn. I thought it was interesting that Tanzal was playing Serwin of the Mirror Shield, right? because before, I mean, we thought of her as like holding like a small little puppet show thing,

but that she is the one, the only one playing the knight in it. And it made me think of how we know that Dunk is an ancestor of Brienne. We don't know that Tanzell is, but now I'm like, I don't know. Maybe it could be. Maybe Tanzal did have multiple children, but it's interesting to see because that means like a woman being that legendary knight is something that comes from the fruits of Dunk's Loins, so perhaps also the fruits of Tanzels. There is something great about her being the one that slays the dragon, right?

Because she's the reason that Aryan makes a fool of himself. You know, you have kind of this very sensitive nature going on with these Targs currently. You see how sensitive and emotional Makar is, right? You see how he's acting a fool when somebody slights him slightly. and his son, Arian, has taken on that same exact duality and like, you're reacting to what happened, like maybe not here, but you're reacting to what did happen.

Like, the small folk killed dragons. Yeah, that's true. That's what led to a lot of the whole dragon going extinct thing. Like, wasn't Egg 3, buddy. The world is big, but little people turn it around. I've been heard to say, it's a good song. Everybody jam it tonight.

The world is big, but little people. around. I really leave it to with the accent, the affect too. Thank you. Thank you.

I'll be here all day. And I think that's great that she gets to play that. Yeah. I think Tans and Crawford has talked about it too that, you know,

it was good to do that to justify what happens, right? And not saying it needs a justification, but to be able to, like, have Arian attack her and not the rest of them.

Like, why was he just attacking her? Well, he's attacking her because she's attacking his legacy in a lot of ways. Yeah. Okay. Crazy new ideas now about this. If it is like from Tanzal and so forth,

and she playing Sirwin. Maybe she did have a hand in naming Selwyn of Tart. It's a similar-ish name. Whoa. Making them new theories, new shit, you guys. Wow. But yeah, what you were saying, like, regarding how insecure the Targaryans feel and why they're like just, like, lashing back

at the small folk in Tanzal. We see that. Like, I mean, obviously some of it is coming in the aftermath of that riot. We see it here alongside Raymond just saying stuff. And obviously, he's not the only one who feels that way about the Targaryians. Many people have lost faith

in the Targaryen's ability to rule because of the exact things that Raymond said. And it could also play into why Egg would be like, I need dragons, not just like, you know, to enforce his policies against the nobles. If people are losing faith, That's what made the Targaryen special.

That's what gave them the special God-given right. It was having dragons. They're like, wow, shit, maybe you do deserve to roll everything. And if his line needs to birth the savior, like... Yeah. That needs to have dragons. Yeah. Better get rolling on it now.

It took a while to cook all these motherfuckers up. Like, the dance didn't happen overnight. Yeah. This is the most dangerous family secret recipe. And... I do think this is a funny... line also, or not funny, but a fun line from Raymond, when he asks Dunk, you mean to play the villain when Dunk discusses challenging Andro of Ashford, and it is very much a meta-discussion

again regarding the songs, the plays, about the role that we play in stories, especially in the context of Alice. Like, who are you? How will they cast you? How will you cast yourself? We just talked about a lot in this novella right near the end about like Dunk, you know, how you'll be remembered. This is how you're going to be remembered because of this.

Yeah. You know what I didn't like, actually? I didn't like that they said Dunk couldn't enter the list till day two. Because that's not true. He chose not to because of strategy. Like he strategized people would be weaker, tireder, etc. And that he would have a better picking to choose from the next day, which isn't actually unlike Stefan Fasaway, you know, choosing the weakest link to.

Like it's very shrewd. It is calculating. Like he's not stupid. So I really, uh, I did dislike that because I thought, I think it's just to cut down on time. But he spends a lot of time that day walking around trying to, you know, understand how people fight and analyze. Yeah. Like he understands valor before seeing valor fight. Yeah.

So I did miss that element. That is missing for me because I'm like, don't not that stupid. Don't sweet. Okay. Don't have brain. Question. Do you think that they've made him his portrayal a little too dumb in the show compared to the dunk that you and I know from the novellas? It's hard when you don't have the internal TV. I mean, he gives it to the horse once in a while, but that's it.

Because when you say that, like... It's hard. I get it. I get it. I've seen people say that, and I wasn't sure that I necessarily agreed, but when you brought that up just now, I'm like, oh, maybe there is like, I can see the argument better. It's hard when he's a quiet character in a lot of ways. A lot of stuff is in his head, so. I get it. I get it. Something that stuck out to me was that like, egg trusted that Dunk would do the right thing about Tanzel more than trusting anyone else at that tourney,

even including knowing all of his family guards were there, the Kingsguard, his brother, his uncle. Like, he could have gone to anyone out there that he knew because he knows everyone. But instead, he implicitly trusted that Dunk would do the right thing, that he knows that Dunk is a good, person even more so than the knights that are sworn to his family and those people that he just like implicitly trusted that dunk would help. I think that's so special and it says a lot about

how he feels alienated, ha ha, from his family. Yeah. Yeah, that's a good point. He's growing up with a lot of people who clearly do not do the right thing. Yeah. He's so unused to it. Good call. Yeah. When he sees, he's like, wow, special. And he's like, that's the night I chose. That's the family I chose. And speaking of choices, I thought this was interesting from the after the episode behind the scene stuff, or they're talking about how, something that's brought up in the novella that they'll probably discuss in later

episodes is how Baylor's like, it wasn't really fair to put you in that position. It wasn't fair of Egg to ask you. But as you said, it makes sense that Egg asked them. and it thus puts Dunk in a very literally bad position but also it puts egg in one too because he now is to make a choice about whether or not to reveal himself in this revealing himself he knows that if he does that it will make this man that he loves hate him

but it will at the same time save Dunk so the ending was meant to emphasize the betrayal that Dunk feels as opposed to it necessarily being a reveal I thought that was interesting in terms of their choices that they made and I like, we discussed this like egg ordering people around. It feels like something we've seen a lot in the asswaffe novels where someone reveals themselves like Aria being like, I'm the hands daughter, blah, blah, blah. And then he stands up to Arian in the way that like we see Valor does not do.

He's just like, what the fuck, cousin? Yeah. Let me chill. Let me chill at Coachella. And Egg is one of the very few people who can, and therefore he does do it. But I did think, like, in regards to talking about Targary and on Targaryen crimes, an interesting test of power between, like, who will the guards listen to and obey the little kid or the older brother? And it shows that there is an argument to be made that they're on equal enough footing.

Age doesn't count for much when it comes to status and who they follow. They err on the side of caution. Yeah. Interesting. More flies with honey than vinegar. And it is interesting to look at Egg as like the fourth son and then also Make-R as the fourth son, right? And like that both of them end up with this great leadership role and how it starts to manifest itself for Egg here. Like they did listen to him. He has a leader's voice. That's for sure.

He does. He actually, he feels so different than the Dexter does and behind the scenes. I'm like, great job, kid. Doing good a job. Very serious. He's very serious. I'm really impressed by him, yeah. But again, if you need help,

Nathan Fielder also works at HBO. And it is kind of fun with the ending music. There's a feeling of as the music and the beats go, and then they show each of the people's faces in that moment and cuts them. It's very much, here's our story now. Here are the players. Let's fucking go. Totally a record scratch.

You're probably wondering how we got here. That's true. I like kind of the comedic lens. Yeah. Yeah, I like the comedic lens they kind of put on it in a way. It's interesting a lot of people are discussing how Dunk will feel betrayed by Egg, and I can see

how that betrayal would feel that way, but I didn't really think about it right away, but now I'm like, oh, he's going to be sad. I didn't think about it right either. It was just what the showrunners discussed. So I was like, oh my God, you're so right, especially because this kid was like, yeah, you're right. I didn't really know my dad.

And Dunk's like, I just told you like this really sad thing about maybe I watched my dad die. I don't know. Your dad's like literally over there looking for you also. And he's kind of a dick. Yeah. He's literally alive. Yeah. I've met him. Did you watch the trailer with egg and his little, like, cunty little outfit? I don't usually watch the trailers. Oh, wait, no, I did see a little bit of it, though, because as I was fast forwarding to the behind the scenes, and you're right, it is a good outfit. Oh, I did like Ariens cloak. Very velvety, very good

thingy of status. Oh, yeah. Costumes are showing it out. The armor is amazing. The shields are actually really well done. I'm very into the shields. Definitely keep an eye out for the armor next episode because we're going to see some MakeR and Baylor armor going down. I'm hyped for that. Going to look good. We've already seen Baylor's armor, to be fair. Oh, true.

We're going to see it again. Yeah, but beautiful armor. Lionel Barathean armor next up, I think, too. So hype hype. All right. Yeah, I'm ready. I'm ready. I don't know what I mean by that.

There's a lot of ways that can be taken with Lionel Barathean. I know exactly what I mean by it. Oh, oh. Yeah, I don't think it's just two ways. I think it's many ways that he goes. Every way that a man could have a woman in the words of Tenaries, Tricarion, J.K., JK, JK, JK. There's more than that.

We're going beyond that. No, but like, however many genders there are out there, he's been with all of them. I agree. That's how I feel about Lionel Barathean. So it's been a real slice hanging out with you to talk about the squire. I'm actually now kind of excited. that we're getting our dopamine Friday instead of Sunday.

I'm a sick bastard, so I can't wait to watch it and think about you and think about everyone listening. All of you at home, I'll think about you too. I will think about all of you as well. And if any of you took action last week, thank you for doing so. Please continue to do so. It's an ongoing thing as dunk.

As the story shows, as the story shows. I haven't forgotten. I'm not so just because we didn't bring it up doesn't mean I've forgotten. And I just want you all to know that. And I expect you all to keep doing things because this is my reality. Hooray. Yeah.

The fight's not over. It's always one battle after another. That's on the plane. I was really obnoxious for like a month, a month after it came out. I just said it like every single day in something. But I will say the vote sucked. But, you know, just got to keep going. Got to keep fighting.

Boat sucked though. Really sucked. The vote. Yeah, I mean, they were able to at least, like, separate those provisions, but it's still like, I don't know, I'm like, why are you asking for the bare minimum? Fuck, anyways. Yeah. It's a bummer.

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Debrief. I don't know. That sounds weird. That sounds like it's on the rare. Oh, my God. Dunk it is brief. Stop it. I've been one of your hosts, Chloe.

I've been another one of your hosts, Eliana. Goodbye. Miss Lucy. whatever Nen-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-lun-l-h-h-h-h