Girls Gone Canon Cast - ASOIAF Episode 247 — AGOT Daenerys VI

Episode Date: April 18, 2025

For a fleeting moment, Daenerys lives without fear. A sip of wine threatens to steal it away. Background music: "Ready Aim Fire" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ ---- Eliana's twitter: https://twitter.com/arhythmetric Eliana's reddit account: https://www.reddit.com/user/glass_table_girl Eliana's blog: https://themanyfacedblog.wordpress.com/ Chloe's twitter: https://twitter.com/liesandarbor Chloe's blog: liesandarborgold.com Intro by Anton Langhage

Hello and welcome to Girls Gone Cannon Reads a Song of Ice and Fire episode 247. Daenerys 6 in a Game of Thrones. I am one of your hosts, Chloe. And I am another one of your hosts, Eliana. Welcome back to... what is this, the aftermath? We're not even really grieving. How do you... I am. I'm grieving Glytus. How do you do an episode after last week, you know? Yeah, no, for real. I will say like people have chimed in. We had lots of great fanfare for having Glytus on and I really love this one insight from the patron discord from Miranda saying that Dark Horse Miranda believes that Dark Horse is the song, the Katy Perry song.

Oh, the Katy Perry song. That would go best for that chapter even though it's not, the Katy Perry song, that would go best for that chapter. Even though it's not a good Katy Perry song, but it has the word horse in the lyrics, she'll eat your heart is what Miranda says. She's got a point. And honestly, I guess it's not very good. But at the same time, I literally hummed it and now I'm in it in my head. Like now it's over for me. It's intriguing. Like there's obviously, yeah, like some intriguing things going on there. I will say, isn't it crazy that she just went to space and I bravely said last week that Alien was my favorite? Like am I a prophet?

What do you mean she went to space? Hold on. She was in that fucking rocket. Yeah, Katy Perry went up in that fucking rocket that a bunch of billionaires decided they were going to space. Oprah's girlfriend Gail went, Katy Perry went, and they all fucking survived, so I was like, what was the point? That's great!

I'm glad they survived. It was like a 10 minute trip, it wasn't real, but it was like fanfare, speaking of fanfare. But I just have to tell you this, I'm really glad that I told you this. I'm glad that you told me this, you're all getting my live reaction to like this news Holy shit. I guess I'm like not paying attention to things. Sorry y'all What's happening? It's okay. It's nothing's good. So don't I mean you're not missing anything Good. Yeah, just go back to what you were doing girl. Yeah, keep making your bread, babe Cuz it's not good out here. It's bad. Things are someone's gonna have to make us bread

You know in the end times and it's not good out here. It's bad. Things are... Someone's gonna have to make us bread, you know, in the end times, and it's gonna be me, apparently. I'm glad you're working on your end time skills to be valuable to every group. I'm just a good manager. I'm the bread maker, not the bread winner. Just the bread maker. That's why I keep you around. I don't know what that means. Well, thanks for staying around with us. And we're excited to announce April 2025's bonus Patreon episode for patrons that are in the stranger tier. Five dollars and up at Patreon.com slash girls gone cannon.

That's C-A-N-O-N. That episode is going to be a short story by the one, the only George Railroad Martin, George B.B. Martin. Oh my god, B.B. Yes! George R.R. Martin, yeah, Remembering Melody. It is a little gritty and dark. This one is kind of, I don't know, it's in Dream Songs Part 1, Volume 1, so those of

you that have Dream Songs and have been reading some of these with us, open up your books, get ready, we're gonna read Remembering Melody. Yeah, this one sounds like a really intriguing one. It sounds like a little different from George's usual flavor of storytelling from what you've told me. Almost like maybe slice of life-ish? Unsure? Unsure?

But we're gonna find out this month for Patrons in the Stranger Turn Above. And honestly, like, you and I actually might know. We might have a plan already for May and June and the summer. Like, yeah, might be continuing a couple of things. Yeah, might be following up on a couple of things soon. So stay tuned. It's not girls gone quittin'. No. No. No. We won't find us quittin'. We told you we'd'd be back and we're back. We're back and we'll be back in May for our Patreon brunch slash happy hour for the patrons that are in the thunder tier and above if you'd like to join that tier You should head to our patreon you get perks like access to our discord Access to a monthly brunch slash happy hour.

Mm-hmm. God, there's lots going on there. Sometimes we play games, sometimes we doodle, sometimes we just chat in chat rooms. It's a blast. Everybody's always chatting about something. People are posting good food. I was making bread. Yeah, Eliana was just making bread at brunch. You could have been there. You should be there next month. So join up, we're gonna give you some time, and hopefully next week we'll tell you the date for the next brunch in May. And something else really fucking exciting is happening next week. I'm very excited.

Oh my gosh, we have another guest. Yeah, we were getting lonely. We did more in Goliath's long apparently. No, we're still mourning. We had to fill the hole in our hearts. Interesting. We have another guest and I'm really excited to have her on. She's just like this really, like really smart, insightful person that I enjoy her insights in general about life as well. I trust her with my heart, with the podcast. Oh my God, are we giving it to her?

Is it over? I don't think she wants it. We've been trying to give this thing away and you couldn't even, you can't even give this shit away. Yeah, our friend Madeline, who is also a patron of ours, but has become a really dear friend to us, is coming on. She's like read a bunch of stuff for this She's already like a highly intelligent person. Yeah, everything you just said is true. She's like, she's just like highly intelligent So I'm like excited to have her brain on

She always just knows so much about so many different things and I know some things But she says stuff and just knocks my socks off So I'm excited for her to come knock your socks off for Daenerys VII in a Game of Thrones. And yeah, a holy number. She actually was like really thoughtful and insightful about which chapter she wanted to choose. So I can't wait to find that out next week and let her tell you all a little bit about it. Super jazzed. They'll be coming to you soon.

And also, so we have a couple like other things that are kind of emails and tweets of note. We got one like right after we finished recording last last week. Sorry, y'all. And this one is fun. It's from our friend Zach, who is enjoying the Daenerys coverage, which I'm glad of. You know, I know like, for some of you, Danny's not your favorite. I think it's like literally one of the best written, maybe the best written of the storylines, especially in A Game of Thrones. CB. Yeah, compelling. LS. It's like, I don't know. I just think that her arc is so strong. Zach sent us also strong a couple of turtle and dog picks from his farm. And like arguably, are turtles and dogs the same animal in Elden Ring?

Debatable. Just throwing it out there if you know you know. But anyways, strong turts. I'm still stuck in the training stage. I should like teach you how to get out of there sometime. Yeah you should. Are you really still there? I just have never gone back is the secret. Oh, okay. I just got mad and quit, but that happened to me like the Avengers game, I did the same thing and I came back three years later and then I beat it. So it could still happen for me, maybe I'm a late

bloomer in Elden Ring. I don't know. I love the turtle so much. Our good friend the weed detective, Zach, he has this beautiful turtle and god damn, it is just big and I just want to hang out with it. I want to feed it strawberries. Yes! Okay there's some like good videos out there of turtles eating food like you give them a leaf or like I don't know other it's just fun. And let me tell you I've watched quite a few of them. Yeah they have like

And let me tell you, I've watched quite a few of them. Yeah. I've watched quite a few of them. They have like, slow, like, I don't know, like, beak-like structure. It's cool. Yeah. To be a fiddle. You know, speaking of things of the water, our friend SeaStar said a couple of great things in the Discord that we wanted to highlight.

SeaStar pointed out, the amount of deaths among the Kals and Kalasars are all of the Dashkalin actually old crones. Yeah, that's a great question. I think that you're probably onto something there because, well, I mean, even here, right? Not in this chapter, but in Danny six or seven, Danny seven, she's like, Miriam Asdur is old. And then at one point, she's like the 40 year old woman. And I'm like, wait a second. Yeah, I'm like, 40 is not that old, but I agree. And you know, if they're all fighting and they're that young, like, I mean, I guess it's got to be some hotties there.

Yeah, some young Khaleesies with nothing to do but go to the mountain. There's no way Daenerys is like unique in being a 13, 14 year old like, widow. Yeah, Khaleesi being sent to the dash Khaleen I'm sure that's happened before and also Yeah, but I guess it also makes sense to some extent like if they're older and sent there It's because like the calls have you know gotten older and fallen in battle because they're like falling to the youngers But like I don't know and then, and like the sons too, right?

Like if the sons are old enough, do they let their mothers stay sometimes maybe? When the dad dies or, and maybe I'm just putting this out here because what, we have a big parallel with Catalin and Rob, right? Coming up where he wants to send her home and she refuses. I just assumed the sons were killed. Sometimes what if they live? I guess maybe that's the big question. I don't know. I'm just making shit up. It's not like I have a book to read. I don't know. Yeah, I guess they might even like go into that more later

on or like maybe Daenerys will be like, well, no, they weren't that old. Like, but also at the same time, I guess, you know, when you're 13, do you think like anyone over 30 is like ancient? Absolutely. Absolutely. And now here I am just over 24. Yeah. But also, I don't know, there's a trend going on and on TikTok women in their 30s and you know what? Thriving.

Good for them. Now they're hot. That's why I'm just like, why are they talking about Katlyn and Circe this way? Like I know they're hot. I know. I guess our brain like normally your brain just adjusts right like bit by bit like now you're like oh I'm in my 30s and actually things aren't disintegrating like I thought they would 15 years ago I guess it's fine. Yeah. C-Star

also likened Drogo killing Viserys to a Euron drowning Swain Botley. Yeah having a bloodless death so I thought that was a kind of fun parallel. Yeah, it's a cute parallel between Euron and Drogo. Yeah, I mean, I don't think it's Daenerys with Euron. Like, I just don't. I think she probably takes Victarion's like ships, you know? I will say, I like the theory that poor Quentin made a long time ago of Bran frying Euron with his mind while Dany fries him with her dragons. Yeah, that makes sense to me. I do love that.

I just don't see them partnering up, is what I'm saying. Oh, partnering, yeah. No, absolutely not. No. There's no time for that. No, it just doesn't, that's why, yeah. She could take his brother ships, who knows, but anyways. Yeah, absolutely. All right. Well, thank you for these emails and tweets of note, which technically, they're not only that we feel like expanded it communications of note contact points of contact of note. Thank you. What you have to understand is that like,

in our outlines, it just says, emails slash tweets of note. But we just leave it that way. So this is the 247th time we've left it that way. I mean, like, they're not even called tweets anymore, you know? I forgot. What do they even call them now? Tweets? I don't know. I think they actually still just call them tweets, even though they're notes, not Twitter, it's actually like, but you have to have a fun branded term.

I mean, you don't have to, but like, come on, bro. I'll never be more betrayed than when Blue Sky said it wasn't Skeets and that that isn't an official name. Wait, they made that official? Meaning they never officialized anything. Yeah, I mean, it's Skeets to me, but that took the sight down in my eyes, you know? Couldn't go back. Do you think like it was a trademarked term? I don't know. Do you think it was Lil John?

No, that's what I'm saying. Do you think like Lil John would have come for them if they used it? I don't know. If he's smart, if he's smart. Yeah. I'm just like hoping. Ah, I hope so too. Ah, skeet skeet, god damn.

Here's what we missed between Daenerys VI and Daenerys V in a game of Thrones. Etterd 13. Robert wills Ned the kingdom. Ned decides to ask Littlefinger for a hand. Ha! That's good. That's a good one. There's a lot going on there because he's the hand and Littlefinger's fingers are on

the hand. Damn. That's brilliant stuff. John 6. John is not happy with being designated to the stewards until Sam gets it through his thick skull that he's being groomed to lead. They take their vows and Ghost brings back a hand. I was actually admiring the intro to this one again of Sam being like, oh my God, can you believe they're gonna they're gonna make me a brother? And John's like, no truly? Are you for real? You sure? There's like a slight disbelief. It's wholesome. It's wholesome and cute.

Etterd 14. Etterd takes his role as protector of the realm. It is short-lived. Littlefinger does not give him a hand. Aria 4. Meryn Tran's party interrupts Aria's needle lessons, but she escapes, and a stableboy dies at her hand. Woah. Nice. Well done, Chloe.

Chloe's got a secret game going on. Let's see if y'all can figure out what it is. Sansa 4. Sansa is summoned from her house arrest to pen a letter to her brother with her own hand. Jon 7. Dead bodies are found, and they don't seem normal. Later, Jon learns his father is charged with treason. Much later, Jon saves the Lord Commander from a wight, battling him with his own two hands. I'm really committed to it at this point.

I know. Bran VI. As armies gather in Winterfell, Oshetel's Bran and the gods would, his brother is marching the wrong way. Bran tells his brother the warnings, but Robb still marches south to deal with the war at hand. That brings us here too. Daenerys VI.

While the call's away, Khaleesi shall play. At the market, of course. She's just like me for real. That is, until a merchant tries to poison Dany, she's just like me for real. That's when things start to get out of hand. I don't know, I like got to the second one and I was like, but I really want to put hand here too. And then I got to the next one. I was like, what if I put hand at the end of every single one of these? I mean, I really got a hand to Tia. I think you did a good job. Thank you. 247 of these lightning rounds, guys. Just want to put that out there. I'm gonna give Chloe a hand.

This is getting out of hand. We open Denei 6 with, When he had taken his pleasure, Cal Drogo rose from their sleeping mats to tower above her. His skin shone dark as bronze in the ruddy light from the brassiere, the faint lines of old scarves visible on his broad chest. Ink-black hair, loose and unbound, cascaded over his shoulders and down his back, well past his waist. His manhood glistened wetly. The cow's mouth twisted in a frown beneath the droop of his long mustachio. The stallion who

mounts the world has no need of iron chairs." Fun opening. Caldrego's hair does sound really great. There's this meme that goes around from Modern Family, which Chloe has gotten me to watch. I've been stretching out the last few episodes because I'm like, it's going to be done. And she's just like, it's fine. You'll just rewatch it. But anyways, I was like, oh my God, it's a thing. There's so many memes. There's so many things that come from that show. And one of them is Gloria exclaiming to people like, do you even know how smart I am in Spanish? And you know I know that resonates with a lot of people who are bilingual as they come to the US and like trying to express themselves not just in the US

but just like I'm sure in general right when people people go somewhere you learn a new language and it really stands out to me that like, yes, last chapter we heard Khal Drogo say, you know, crown for card king in like common tongue basically, so that I guess Viserys could understand it, but like he says things and we're not really privy to him talking. This is the first time we really get to hear Khal Drogo in this chapter because it is now that Daenerys has enough skill because she's taken the time to really get to know him and to get to know his language and it shows the effort and care that she's given to understanding and assimilating to this culture. Khal Drogo is a very gifted speaker in Dothraki, right?

Like, yeah, he only knows No in the common tongue, but he's so gifted speaker in Dothraki, right? Like, yeah, he only knows no in the common tongue, but he's so eloquent in Dothraki, like, even beyond that. And, you know, obviously we have that iconic speech from Jason Momoa in Game of Thrones at the end of this chapter. But here, the construction of some of these phrases and like, you know, we'll get to other ones. He's like, the stallion-anns world has no need, or we will speak no more. You know, these are like very formal in an unstiff way, like just very flowy language, right? Compared to the way that we see others speak, which is just so like kind of casual and just

like meh. Yeah, in their intimacy too, right? Like this is clearly post-Coydl, his glistening manhood and all. You can see like he's speaking confidently. He is stringing together complex phrases. Like this isn't just Cart King. You see him kind of move back and forth in language and like, which is interesting, like you start to see all the assimilation for Dani. And I feel like especially in these later couple chapters you start to see some of those like framings that

George was using of being savage or primitive, you know, of Dani like thinking this or Viserys thinking that. She's truly assimilated at this point and she finds beauty in everything around her, right? Like the framework isn't even any of that where when Viserys was alive, it was. Also, you can tell this isn't the first time they've spoken about this, even though it's the first time we get to hear them speak about it to each other. Like, it's very clear this is a recent debate because of the way that it's phrased, right? You come into it mid-argument, you're not coming into it with context. Like, clearly this has been the argument and discussion of the past couple days.

That's a really great point, that it's not the first time she's brought brought it up and we see her already plotting how to bring it up again later on. And she's like, maybe when he, when this happens, he'll be more like open to the suggestion. So it's another also great insight into the way that Queens or concerts, whatever can influence the Kings. We'll talk about this like in the next couple chapters too, especially, but there are a lot of ways that I feel like this is almost like seeing what Catalin would have been like pregnant with Ned in some aspects, like attitude and the way,

like, you know, like she's having to maneuver around different moods for Drogo and she's having to kind of like go through his moods, the Kallasar's moods, work through an army basically and makego and she's having to kind of like go through his moods, the Kallasar's moods, work through an army basically and make sure that she's not overreaching and like still doing political plays without. Kind of interesting. I agree. It's subtle, but like there's trust and care there now too. She watches Drogo affectionately and also debates the prophecy with him and Drogo says that the earth ends at the Black Salt Sea and no horse can cross the poisoned water. But Dani tells him that wooden horses, ships, exist and can fly across the sea, but Drogo doesn't want to hear of this.

And like there's a moment also as she's like looking at him and she thinks about how she loves his uncut hair especially like speaking of Ned and Catlin, it makes me think of their relationship, right? Of, you know, Ned loving Catlin's hair. There's a part of it also that makes me think a little of the story of Samson and the uncut hair being tied to his strength as it's tied here with like Drogo's victories and yeah, kind of interesting stuff. I love that because it is very Ned and Cat, again. The line of how much she loves his long hair. His long hair he's having this summer. Yeah.

We will speak no more of wooden horses and iron chairs. He dropped the cloth and began to dress. This day I will go to the grass and hunt, woman wife. That's what I'm gonna call you. Woman wife. Well, yeah, that makes sense. You have a husband wife and you have a woman wife. That's what I'm gonna call you. Woman wife. Well yeah that makes sense you have a husband wife and you have a woman wife. Go away! What's wrong with you? Am I wrong? Yeah, most many ways you are very wrong. I don't know. In the soul, in the spirit, you are wrong. Drogo fears no man, no beast, but like all Dothraki, he fears the sea.

Though braver than most horse lords, he would not face the sea willingly. I get this, because I don't think that I'm into the sea for a long period of time. Like, I don't know, is a cruise for me? I don't think it is. I have a friend that wants me to go on a cruise with her, and I just don't is a cruise for me. I don't think it is I have a friend that wants me to go on a cruise with her and I just don't think it's for me I also don't think it's for me. I just I'm like we really Underestimate I think the amount of time people spend on ships You know when when you have to like sail like that like it's a long ass time stories

Books and shows and movies make it seem so brief. And I'm like, no, there's a reason like you go fucking crazy and you're like, let's have a mutiny. And then disease, like, disease, disease. I don't know. Yeah. Things can shipwreck. So much can go bad. Like I don't think Drogo is wrong for this. Remember when we learned about scurvy and its full effects, like from Madeline's friend? Kind of, I think I blocked that out, yeah. Well, it was traumatizing.

Scurvy is not just like a pirate disease. It's like you go without that vitamin C, vitamin D, your whole body, like your scars start to unravel, dude. Oh yeah, that's right. Scar tissue, like any scar tissue you have starts to unravel, decay, your body starts to just fucking decompose, living right there, like, scurvy isn't like something to joke about, so I don't know, I just think we shouldn't go cosplaying on boats. Wait, that could be bad, like, a lot of these people have a lot of scars,

like imagine like Strong Belos getting scurvy. Like he's got a lot of scars. No! How could you do this to Strong Belos? Well that's why that's why I'm like I don't know. Ships. I mean like I understand like you know there are whole people with like their whole ship culture and stuff like that important and we like actually liken them to the Dothraki's. Did I do that on here or on Sanrixian's channel? Sanrixian maybe. This might have been during your Sanrixian. Yeah it also might have been here recently. I don't know anymore. Anyways I'm losing I'm losing my marbles. I'm losing track of time. And the sea. Not for me. I think I'd like I don't know maybe I'd go. I don't know. Boats are kind of fun. Sea for thee not for me. I like I'd like, I don't know, maybe I'd go, I don't know, boats are kind of fun sometimes.

Sea for thee, not for me. I like a boat, but like, I'm just like several, like 8 to 12 hours on one or more. I don't know about that. Yeah. And like in the middle of the sea. Like I'm not talking like you're on a lake or you're on the edge of the sea and you're hanging out. Like I'm talking like you're in the middle. Is this what my people were about? Like how else did they get to those fucking islands, you know? Unless like they were all on boats for quite a while to get there. So I don't know. Yeah. I'll do... figure it out. While the Kalaasar is off hunting Daenerys,

heavily pregnant, bathes with her handmaid's help and sends for Jorah, she asks him to convince Drogo to reconsider his plan to raid east along the Jade Sea. We should go the other way, right? Like the Seven Kingdoms, they seem like distant islands to Drogo. They seem unappealing and unreachable. And she's like, he probably thinks they're just like small like rocks. She's like, no, it's big. We should go there. And Dany herself has never seen Westeros, only heard stories from Viserys, who had promised to take her home countless times. But he was gone now. and so were those promises. The language really stuck out here to me this time. His promises had died with him, is what she thinks.

And I'm like, oh, right, because Ned is about to have his dying fever dreams about his sister, another brother who promises his sister home. We get at the very beginning of Danny's plot with Viserys where he says we'll have it all back someday, sweet sister. He would promise her. Sometimes his hands shook when he talked about it. Then Ned to Lyanna. I was with her when she died.

She wanted to come home to rest beside Brandon and father. Both of these all kind of come with promises. Promises that were broken. We don't know. We need to know. And I feel like there's a lot of there's a lot of those that that's something that keep an eye on. Yeah. Throughout this whole chapter, not specifically here, but throughout this whole chapter I'm noticing Daenerys starts to take on Viserys, his failures, his desires in this chapter, almost like absorbing him like a ghost of her history and life, right? Like she thinks, and

this whole chapter in general is kind of like her childhood pressed up against her actuality. She thinks of her childhood, every other beat in the market, but also about how she would have rather maybe gone to the house with the red door than go back to Westeros. But as we get through this chapter, she begins to push forward. Her son needs to take the Iron Throne. She's not like the Dosh-Kelley, and she's not going with them. She has to go with him. He has to take the Iron Throne. She's not like the Dashkeline. She's not going with them She has to go with him He has to mount the world like she starts using the Saris's death the prophecy about her son as

This idea that's pushing her home to Westeros and I find that really fascinating Something that didn't necessarily stand out before to me and I think that kind of makes sense, right? Like something that's not like fully said aloud or articulated, but yeah, like she's taking him on in that there's a guilt there, right? There's kind of a guilt of like, I have to carry this on now for him. I have to now shoulder the legacy of our house the way that Viserys, I guess, did for her. Felt he did like in general. Yeah. And, and it, you know, I know we're coming back to that in a bit as well. And yeah, it also comes back to like the, if I look back, I am lost. There's kind of a sunk cost thing here going to like, I have to go forward, I have to reclaim this,

or else like, for what did I suffer everything? For what did I pay all of this? Yeah. And the price, the stakes only keep getting higher. The stakes are so high in Dani's story. They're high in my story too, it's so expensive. That's true just like when at the market and being poisoned. We're the same. She's just like you, oh my god. She's just like me. I do love that Robert's death coinciding with this entire chapter and this entire everything, like the usurper being the fear that's outlining this chapter, and he's dead. Like that bitch is dead.

Yeah, it's like as though Danny's, Danny five like sets off a chain of events like within the book itself, like it doesn't actually cause those things happening over there, but it sets off the chain of all the death and the climax in A Game of Thrones. From there on, it starts going bam, bam, bam. And there are these really interesting parallels even between Robert and Viserys, both kings who die, arguably, and both of them kind of running towards their own deaths. You know, they talk about how Robert's death is like kind of caused by his own vices. So are Viserys, right? Like that he was unable to adapt, that he was just like,

wanted this thing, this crown so bad. And then there's also like the role that Wine plays in both of their deaths and exacerbating how they get there in terms of like Robert allegedly hunting under the influence and that's why he gets gored and Viserys being a dumb drunk during the baby shower. Lansel and Jorah kind of as the ones beckoning them on. Exactly. Interesting. But again, they can't, it's not like you can really plan that, like, you know.

No, that's, I'm sorry, but that's like fate chose that. Yeah, I'm still, I'm still like, I don't know, like, I'm glad, like, you know, that's great that that worked out for Circe, but you can't really like be like, yeah, everything went according to Keikaku. Like, yeah, that's great, but you can't really hold her. Like, she's been trying that weekly. Yes. Like, she's been doing this like every week week trying for years. For years, okay.

It has to have been like that, exactly. Like a decade, okay. Like it just so happened. Like honestly, I think really she was more surprised than anything. Like oh, finally. Yeah, great timing for her. You know, that was just really lucky. Not for Ned.

No, not for Ned. Rip, Dad. Jorah tells Dani to have patience and don't make her brother's mistake. They will go home. She thinks. Home. The word made her feel sad. Sir Jorah had his bare island, but what was home to her? A few tales, names recited as solemnly as the words of a prayer, the fading memory of a red door. Was Vase Dothrake to be her home forever? When she looked at the crones of the Dash Kaleen, was she looking at her future? Kinda, but not in the way you think.

Hahaha. Uh, yeah. Feels very much like, um, you know, George likes to talk about how growing up in Bayonne, New Jersey, he would pass this really beautiful house that I guess used to be a house that his family lived in and thinking about that legacy and being like, that was home. This is a far, far away idea of it. You can see that channeled in Dani's storyline. That longing, that yearning. Yeah, for legacy.

Legacy. It's a weird term I know from the song. Oh, I was doing Selena Meyer, more important, legacy. I was doing Hamilton. Legacy. It's a tree, something, something, something. Nope, that's not the lyric, but you played. You came, you saw, you played.

That's what I'm saying, I don't know the other lyrics other than legacy. It's planting seeds in a garden that you never get to see. You know what? That's what it is, Eliana, sorry. It's not a lemon tree, apparently. It's planting lemon tree seeds in a garden, in Braavos, case closed. Yeah. So Jorah interrupts her thoughts, telling her that a caravan of 400 horses from the merchant Captain Bayan Votiris arrived to

the Western Market and Nellirio may have even sent a letter. STACEY He might have. STACEY He asks if she wants to go to the market. STACEY Oh no. STACEY He asks if Dany wants to go to the market, and she asks Eerie to prepare the letter, thinking it would be good to hear men speaking Valyrian again. Amongst the Dothraki, most mothers ride pretty much until they give birth. If her husband were there, Dani would be on her silver, but instead she takes pleasure

in being carried across face Dothrak with the red curtains shielding her, Jorah riding at her side with some of her cause and her handmaidens. Sunlight passes to shadow and back to sun again in a warm cloudless day. Yeah, let her ride in the thing." Like she's like 13 years old, her body's not made to fucking carry all this, Kat. Yeah, for real. Oh my, no, they're 14 now, sorry. But yeah, let her fucking ride. Kat, get it right. Let her ride in the thing and not on the horse. I don't know, it kind of stood out to me.

I don't have anything eloquent about it, but the sunlight passes to shadow and back to sun again. That language was A, really cool, and then B, made me think of the shadows of a shai and passing, and the prophecy of passing beneath the shadow. I don't know. Sunlight passes to shadow and back to sun again. She watches the faces of dead heroes and forgotten kings, wondering if gods of burnt cities could

answer her prayers. She thinks, if I were not the blood of the dragon, this could be my home. She was Khaleesi. She had a strong man and a swift horse, handmaids to serve her, warriors to keep her safe, an honored place in the Dashkhalin awaiting her when she grew old, and in her womb grew a son who would one day best ride the world. That should be enough for any woman, but not for the dragon. With Viserys gone, Daenerys was the last, the very last. She was the seed of kings and conquerors. And so too the child inside her. She must not forget. That pressure, that immense pressure of living up to the dragons before her that she barely even has a memory of their name, right? And the thought

that maybe she could have made a home somewhere else and been happy. It's terrible. Also the language here reminds me a little bit of Robin Leah, a song for Leah. Oh, interesting. And like the Dosh-Kellene is kind of like the hive mind that Leah, you know, the jellies like just let me go, like, let me be happy. I'll be happier together in the loneliness with them, but not for the last dragon. No hive mind for her. No, yeah, like her story again, such about isolation and yeah, there's so much pressure there that she must not forget. She can't just get to be her. She has to, and that kind of comes through a little in this too, like it's interesting that she's like, this should be enough for any

woman, right? And none of it is actually even like about her. It's like she has a strong man and a horse. It's about all these people around her, but none of it is about her herself and what's accomplished. And even like the legacy itself of being the seat of kings and conquerors. And it's about like the child inside of her.

But what about her? What here is about her? Yeah. Oh, and there's even something there, like that Catalan chapter in Storm when she says I had love enough for any woman, didn't I? It's a great turn that Daenerys' story does become about her, the things that she does and accomplishes, not just being served by other people and the fates that are decided. She starts to try and find that agency. Yeah.

But legacy's still a chain. Anyway. The Western market bustles with traders but feels subdued compared to the free cities. Joy explains the caravans come mostly to trade and to honor the local customs. And those customs like to enter based off rock and like I don't know, by your convention table. Like you have to pay the doshkalin, the salt, silver, and seed. Those are the traditional gifts, and I think it's very convenient that they all give a little bit of alliteration in English. I find the seed part really interesting. It's because Vase Dothraki, right, it's like the one settled place for the Dothraki. They're a nomadic

group, so they don't usually, I think, have need for seed. I didn't mean that. They don't usually have need for seed as they aren't really, like, agricultural. So it's a Doshkaleen who really own and steward that. Just to, like, randomly talk about the other ones, I guess, salts for flavor. It's also valuable for trade, especially, you know, I think of, like, salting the fields as well later on with the war. And it it probably comes from far away, right? Like Drogo's talking about the Black Salt Sea and shit. Uh, then the silver, of course, useful for trade and maybe like it's they- the dosh khalin hold on to it so that they can like procure goods, who knows. But I guess we see that they only do trade as Dani does the whole silver medallion thing. But anyways, but yeah, when the merchants aren't here,

like it's all there's always like goods here that are available at this like kind of safe point for the Colossars. Yeah, I think there's something really cool about the cross-cultural trading culture too, like no society's ever used bartering as its main economic system, but usually it's temporarily used, right? Or within economies that had money and couldn't access it. And I love the way that this chapter is framed with the language with Dani using Dothraki with the Khal Drogo and like speaking it intimately.

And then also when they're using the common tongue and just like framing their different ways of speaking. This is also like a language right between all these different cultures that have come to the market. We see a ton of different cultures here at the market and it's great to think like when they don't have a common currency or economic system they have this. The market is kind of like partially swapping goods at fairs or between countries or like status-based gift-giving we see, right? For Dani specifically as the Khaleesi, she gets gifted more than others at the market.

Sometimes a gift is bad, as we will learn. But I think of like the Inca Empire, right? Who had no concept of money, they used centralized distribution instead. Or many Native American tribes and older European and Asian societies that didn't use money the way we do, especially common people because they couldn't use money the way that others did. And certain tribes in Sudan or in the Amazon also use money very little in comparison to our current society. So yeah, it comes back to that idea of like language between different cultures, how we

speak, how we barter, how we interact, how we can always find a way. It is interesting as we go through the market at the beginning, she trades the silver medallions, but she starts to do a lot of taking a lot of being given the gifts that the market has to offer. She's the Khaleesi it's expected, but you see a lot of power in this chapter. Now that Viserys isn't around that she kind of has independence She has power when Drogo's not there how long she will have that for not for long, but until she gets it back again Yeah, it's okay. There will be dragons. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's absolutely like those things those those ideas of exchange all coming up coming forward here

Yeah, and I also think what you brought out with the specific customs of what they have to give to enter reminds me like with the salt, right? The salt, the silver, it's almost like these offerings to the Mother of the Mountains and the Doshkalin. It's also guest write in a way. So that does a lot of etching here because later, Dani has the merchant trying to poison her, which is against the rules.

This is like a sacred economic bread breaking ground. You brought the Dosh, Kaleen, salt and silver and seed and you betray that? You betray that to murder someone on their grounds? Right. And it's also great because Cat 9 is coming up, where she treats with the phrase for the first time. Yeah, that's another like passage point. Interesting. They have gates

kind of with those twin towers that are not Bluecifer. Bluecifer times Twocifer. Oh my god, I'm gonna see him tomorrow. I know. So hyped. So Dani prefers the Eastern market's magic with their strange foods, caged beasts, and people from every corner of the world, but the western market smells like home. Garlic, pepper, and sweet perfumes remind her of Tyrosh and Myr. She passes stalls with ornate armor, Lannisport gold guarded by a mute eunuch, and haggling traders from ET and Tyrosh. She recalls childhood days in the bazaar and admiring all the things that they couldn't afford at the time. When she sees sausages like the ones from her youth, she excitedly tells Derea that they're spiced with garlic and hot peppers. The handmaids devour them, laughing, while the men remain weary.

The taste is different than she remembers. The vendor explains that this is IKEA, and usually these are made with pork, but her pigs died on the Dothraki Sea, so these are made of horse meat. Dani is a bit disappointed, but Koro and Rikaro really enjoyed them enough to go back for more, competing over who can eat the most. Aw. That was cute. It's so cute to see them, like, have a couple last happy days before shit is terrible again. I was just rereading Dani 7, so, and Dani 8, and I'm like, oh god, things are terrible again.

No. We can use a little fun. I know. Except for the assassination attempt, but this is fun. Yeah, this is all fun. The assassination attempt was a little fun in a way looking back on it. You know? It's kinda rowdy, he throws the keg, everyone's running.

We needed a little excitement. Yeah, it can't just be fun. Yeah. throws the keg, everyone's running. We needed a little excitement. Yeah, it can't just be fun. Yeah. It's a peace-boff chapter, okay? It's not a fucking Disney channel. I wanna talk about the metaphorical sausage here. Okay.

With, I'm gonna announce it that way. We need to put the metaphorical sausage on the table, Eliana, okay? Put it on the table. Okay, okay, Ramsey. Jesus. So the woman says her pigs died on the Dothraki Sea, right? And these are, these sausages are a cheaper iteration of what Dani remembers from her childhood. The taste isn't the same. The memory, like everything else, dies. Dies on her tongue.

Nothing's the same, because childhood is dead. Just putting that out there. Also the idea that like the grass sea, the great grass sea, can't really sustain a ton of wildlife, right? And we even see in the next couple chapters when they want to make camp in Danny 8, it's dead. They can't make camp right there. She's like, we're making camp because Drogo just fell. And they're like, no Khaleesi, no one can camp here, like there's nothing to eat, there's no wildlife, we can't, this is not a good area. And she's like, doesn't matter, camping. The Great Grass Sea isn't nurturing, it can't sustain wildlife in all of its parts, right? And it comes back to later for Dani, I think there's a lot of that metaphorical, dragons don't plant trees, this land isn't fertile, people can't live here. And you think about earlier when she's like, oh, I could

someday live here, I guess, like I could maybe make this my home. There are people to love me and guard me and feed me. That's all anyone needs. But in her very heart, the entire heartbeat of the chapter is that she has to go to Westeros. So something about that sausage felt really interesting. Something about it being just that cheaper version of the younger, the youth, the youth. Well, have you tried using people to make the, that's what I learned in the brand chapters.

It tastes like pig. I mean, that could happen. Have you tried using humans? That could still happen. For your sausage? I don't wanna know how the sausage is made, Eliana. I actually, I fancy myself as a person who could make sausage one day. I think about it.

I think about like getting a thing and you tie it up so that you know like stuff can drip. I think about it. I think I could do it. I'm gonna send you some sausage pictures. I was on a work trip and I went in this room where everything was sausage. Like literally it was a sausage Hanging drying room and it smelled so good. It was like it smelled like fennel. It smelled like bright fresh spices

Oh, it was amazing. And then I went in their spice room. I could be the person curing all those Yeah, could be me or smoking sausage. I don't know. It could be me. Anyways, you could be the curer. I could be this vendor Who isn't the wine seller? the nice vendor. Anyways, yeah, there's also something you said here that stuck out to me of she can't be content with that kind of life that I thought was really interesting also in terms of like, I don't know, ambition, right? We talk about ambition a bit in this story. And like, there is an aspect of it for that with Daenerys, right? She is a little ambitious and that's not a bad thing. We even see like that same kind of impulse. I would even say we see that same impulse in George, right? Like himself as an artist. Like he couldn't be content.

Like he talked about other professions that he's almost had, but he wanted to do this. He wanted to be a storyteller, right? And that's, uh, there's something like, there's something driving Daenerys as well there. Absolutely. She's driven. She is. She is. But there's a part of her, of course, wants that contentment, right? Like when we're talking about being able to play at the Bazaar when she was younger, I guess she was able to blend in more at that time. Like they were like, I don't know, random ass, like Valyrian descent girl, who is she? I don't know. Who cares? So she had that anonymity and then there's also like a little tip-off here about Jorah's betrayal, right? He scurries off and it's like a tip-off that he's like, oh no, Danny, you can't come with me.

You can't come with me. Like it's cuz he's an informant, but Danny's just like he's gonna buy sex workers. Right. Isn't it interesting that she makes that excuse for him? Yeah, she's like, he's getting his jollies. No, some men do. Some men do, but uh, Travis apparently is like weird, and as we see in the Tyrian chapters, anyways. Eventually that will be where he is actually, so she was just a little early with that premonition. So true. Dani is having a good time, right, with her cuffs. She is hanging out, she giggles, eerie comments. It's so good to see her laugh for the first time since her brother was crowned. Oh.

Dan- oh. No, different death where they die burning. Dani smiled shyly. It was sweet to laugh. She felt half a girl again. She is a girl! She's literally a girl. She's just a girl. She is. She is just a girl, as we're reminded also.

In Dani 10, and you're talking about this idea of childhood being dead, the taste isn't the same, and I think we can even see that like, leading up to this chapter, right? The events of Etter 13, you know, surround Danny, but also you have that chapter of John becoming a brother and a steward on the way up to this. And he's trying to learn that lesson because he's like being super petulant about being stewarded, right? And he learns a lesson that none of the brothers are at the watch for asking to be there, which Sam reminds him, and then John's ashamed. He's like, oh, you're right. Like, no one really asked if I can be here.

And John had survived by this narrative. He told himself that being a bastard meant that he had to grow up faster than the other children. And he's faced with the realization at the watch that he's not fucking special. All of these boys have to grow up fast if they're gonna survive because they joined the military. And I think Daenerys' storyline is a really great parallel for that because we're put alongside, this is a girl, she has to grow up fast in order to anticipate and survive her brother, right? And then she's forced into this role of womanhood, this role of motherhood, by being forced to wed this stranger. And she as a girl, she has to live in these big shoes that no one else has had to like live in in her life, like if she was to survive. And yet in the words of Britney Spears, she's also not quite a woman. And I think that's very much like what Dani's storyline is about. It's about this ambiguity.

It's about being more than one thing, and how do you navigate that when you are forced to be all these different things? Yeah, they're putting her in all of these roles when she doesn't even know who she actually is. She's never been allowed. She should be just a girl. Yeah. Yeah. Poor Dani. Deserves better. She got the best storyline. Yeah, that's true. They wander the market all morning. Dani trades a silver medallion for a belt after receiving a feathered cloak from the

Summer Isles, as is custom to trade an item among the Dothraki. A bird seller teaches a parrot to say her name, and she laughs and declines buying the bird and she's like, what would I do with a parrot in a calisar? She accepts scented oils that remind her of her childhood in the house with the red door. She sees Dorea eye a fertility charm and she buys it for her, deciding to find gifts for Eerie and Gique to match as well. They then meet a wine cellar, offering samples. Reds from Lys and Dorn. Arbor Golds, exotic brand Brandies, Fire Wines, Pepper Wines. The Licini Man, he's handsome, perfumed, he bows and he offers her a Dornish Red, saying, it's so good she'll name her child after him. She smiles and says,

I've already named my son and chooses the summer wine instead. Yeah, you rude bitch. That's right. I forgot, They don't know you can't just drink when you're pregnant yet. Yeah, no one's told them. They can even eat sushi. Oh no. Oh, they probably can. Damn. Fuckers. Well, I will say I just wanted to call it a couple of the things here just because it sounded good. And I just wanted to say I want to try the Tairoshi pear brandy and the pepper wine and the green nectar's mirror. Like what the fuck is going on here? And the smoke berry browns and the Andalish sour? Like is the Andalish sour like what is that? Like a sour beer? Like what's going on here? Or is it like a you know those sour wines like

an orange wine or something? You know all these sound so good., that does sound good. I feel like the pear brandy sounds good, but I wouldn't like it. Oh, interesting. Okay. I feel like the brandy is not for me. I always try it. It could be for me. But I like pear. I like pear.

Not like prickly pear, though. Like, prickly pear is bullshit. Pear. Well, that's because prickly pear is a cactus. I know. But that's why I'm like, that's bullshit. I don't want cactus. I want to see cactus. You don't like prickly pear things?

They're so good though. Not like, yeah, but not like in a margarita because it always tastes not real to me. Like, I like cactus juice though, but I don't like it like that. I don't know if they just add too much sugar or what they do, but. It's the quenchiest. It's the quenchiest, Jesus Christ. I like cactus cooked a lot, actually. Great. But I don't want to do prickly pear. It's not quenchiest, Jesus Christ. I like cactus cooked a lot, actually, in grid. But I don't want to do prickly pear.

It's not for me. Pear, pear. Plops tunas. That's what they're called. It's very confusing. I know. I'm like, oh. It is confusing. That's not a fish. So Daenerys responds to the wine merchant in Valyrian,

which feels strange on her tongue, it's been a bit. Surprised, he's like, oh, are you Tyroshi? And she replies, though I may dress like a Dothraki and speak like a free city native, I am of Westeros, the Sunset Kingdoms. Daeraeus steps forward, naming her titles. Daenerys of House Targaryen, Stormborn, Khaleesi, Princess of the Seven Kingdoms. The man drops to his knees and calls her princess.

I feel like, you know, Daria, you were doing too much here. Like, she's so concerned with hierarchy and I mean, she's been raised to be, she's been trained to be. Maybe he needs to learn a little subtlety. I don't know. I can't tell if like Daenerys does also because like, I mean, I'd be proud of all those accomplishments too if I were her, but you know, it's interesting because there are obviously ways to play both of this in terms of like, do you choose to play the anonymity aspect, which is what happens with Arya's storyline, and blending in versus not doing that and Daenerys, I think she could have been able to blend in here because it's such a multicultural area until her identity was given away, but there is safety and anonymity, but there is also like,

there's some strategy as well behind that. I don't know. Yeah, you see him immediately change how he speaks to her too, changing how he addresses her and his language and body language he's using. And Danny even thinks for a moment she could have just been a normal Dothraki girl with bronze skin and maybe he wouldn't have noticed, right? Or like a girl from the Free Cities that's married to Kal, something. But the way he changes his cadence and speed of talking immediately is like, and the way he's bowing and everything. You can tell something's up, so that's a problem. That's a problem.

Maybe they'll learn from that. Well, but then that's all she has, right? All she has is her own name and the dragons. Yeah. So you can never go back. Yeah, that's true. He changes immediately to, but what if, killing? Yeah.

Well, and then you think of the Jon of it all, right? Like somebody who may never... Like, she can't just at the end of the day not be a Targaryen. Jon gets that option. He doesn't even fucking know. He's just living his fucking life right now. Like, he's a snow. Like, he's a Stark bastard. That's what this bitch still thinks. Well, right now he's dead, but... That's what he's thinking in that dead little brain of his. On the stalk! You know, like she can never get rid of the I am a dragon. Crazy. Especially cuz she got all those dragons there. Yeah, I mean like- Yeah, that does set part of something to do. I mean, I would walk around with fucking three dragons too if I had them. Like, let's be real.

I mean, I would walk around the fucking Three Dragons too if I had them. Like, let's be real. Dani commands the merchant Ryze, and she asks to taste his summer wine. He says, it's Dornish Swill, unworthy of a princess. Wow, what is this, Book Five? And offers her a cask of Arbor Red instead. She says he honors her, and he says the honor is mine. He produces a small oaken cask with the red wine sigil on it, and she says she and Khal Drogo will share it together. She commands Aggo loaded in the litter, but Jorah arrives and he's like,

no, do not do that. And he tells Aggo, put down the flask. And he tells the merchant, he has a thirst demanding they open the flask now. The merchant is like, no, it's for the Khaleesi, not for you, and he's like, no, open it or else. The wine cellar tries to say it's a crime not to let this fine wine breathe, and he doesn't put his wine opening hammer down. And things get real tense. The four young warriors of the Kas all start to kind of become more alert. Zhho'go reaches for the whip at his belt, and Dany commands the wine cellar do as Jorah says, and he does.

He asks Jorah if he can smell the sweet fruit of the arbor, and he's like, taste it. Jorah offers it back and says, he should taste it first. The merchant begins to sweat, and he's like, I can't get high on my own supply, man. That's not how this works. But Dani, cold as ice, says he will drink or she will tell her men to hold him down while Jorah pours the cask down his throat.

Wow, it's sexy. Wish that would happen to me. No, I'm just kidding. Obviously the circumstances are different because this man tried to murder her and her child. But I just realized it reminded me a little of the name day feast with Dantos. Ah, yeah. Yes. I was like, not totally. Joffrey.

Yeah, Joffrey and that. But um, I do love the description here of like her giving this command and being cold as ice, especially because she feels so cold after this exchange and wants to warm up by the brassiere with the eggs. And we see the same description of being cold, right? It happens with the way that Cersei's described as an ice queen. It happens also with Ned, right?

He's got this coldness to him when he has his lord's face on. And I think the story's kind of telling us that there's this aspect of leadership that forces people to remove that warmth from themselves, right? And that you have to be cold and that idea of cold being related to self-preservation and power in a way, but also being this very isolating aspect.

Yeah, like you have to literally disconnect your personality, separate, and your heart. She just spent the last few pages roaming this market that brought her back to her childhood of a time when she last felt safe, and suddenly it's gone and she has to go into this mode to that point, to the Lord's face, and there it is. Yeah, one whiplash, that's crazy. And then like, that there's no moment for her to just enjoy. Yep.

I'm not saying I feel bad for kings and queens and monarchs and, you know, celebrities. I'm just saying. I do sometimes. It would be terrible. It would be terrible. This is enough. I'm fine with my very micro-nitch of A Song of Ice and Fire. Thank you for listening.

Like I think about, you know, for example, for example, we're not gonna linger on this too long, but like, they've really treated Justin Bieber badly. Yeah, for sure. Anyways, the merchant makes a drink, throws the casket at her. It's a strategy. It's a try. Begins to run, bolting over the stalls. Dani stumbles over the stalls.

Dani stumbles and almost falls on her belly. It's very scary, you know, because you know, pregnancy. There's a whole baby in there. But Derea thankfully catches her on the arm and Dani lands on her belly, it's very scary, you know, because, you know, pregnancy. There's a whole baby in there. But Derea thankfully catches her on the arm and Dani lands on her legs. Quorra reaches for a rock that isn't there. That's me trying to use like certain items in Elden Ring. You look back and then your character's like, huh, I can't do anything. Anyways, he races down the aisle after the merchant and Jogo's whip though catches the

wine cellar's leg, who then sprawls face down in the dirt. There's a dozen caravan guards, including the blue mustache Nervoshi Master. That was hard to say. Merchant Captain Bayan Votiris comes running. That was like a tongue twister for some reason. You did great. Thank you.

Jogo is the first of Daenerys' cause later on to swear loyalty to her after the birth of the dragons, and I feel like there's something there between that and him using this whip, right? Like he has the weapon that doesn't need to be steel and is allowed in the free cities. And there's also an interesting, I think, subversion of the use of the whip here, right? Like we see, you know, there's an association, of course, with it, slavery, but we see other characters. The other character that I think of as having a whip is like one of the Sand Snakes, right? Like, and so that it's like feminine and like used to protect this Queen, the Khaleesi and the city. I don't know. There's something fun. And knowing what we know of like other Targaryens of the past, which we didn't

actually know till later in our timeline, but you know what I mean. I'm not sure George knew till later either. Yeah, so I'm appreciating posthumously his gardening in of the past of the whips too. Oh, you mean those Valyrians. I thought we meant like... Like the ones before her. Yeah, they're like... Like her ancestors.

The history. He knew. The lore, the books, yeah. He knew. He knew. Jesus. Captain Bayan Votiris commands the guards to take the wine cellar away to the pleasure of the Cal and gifts the wine cellar's goods to Daenerys as well as a token of regret that one of his men would do this thing.

Right? Like I would go through this if it meant that. Damn. Yeah, same. Like it's just a little scare, you know, a little assassination attempt. And look at, look, now we get the free pear brandy and pepper wine. Yeah. I'm like, what a nice thing for your suffering.

Uh. Trembling. Dani's like, Jorah, how did you know? And Jorah's like, IDK, I didn't really know until the man refused to drink. But then he says, once I had read Magister Illyrio's letter, I feared it, and it's not good, we can't talk about it here. Good answer, Jorah. Kind of curious, I don't know that we'll ever find out what was in that letter for Viserys that Jorah read, but I feel like there were so many ways that

could have gone. Was he supposed to save her? Like, did- was there something in there that was like, okay and then Jorah will save her from getting poisoned or you know, like is it an orchestration? Did Illyrio warn Viserys? Folks might poison them. Or was Jorah not supposed to know and maybe Illyrio hinted Dany's time was over? Or, I mean, like, what happened here, right? Because the captain came real fucking quick. Like, he was there. Yeah, I think there's a couple of ways that it could have gone right. Like, I remember IndianThane95 has, like, speculated that maybe the wine was supposed to kill Daenerys and we would have gotten the same outcome with Drogo so incensed that he would wage war against the Seven Kingdoms in vengeance.

But Jorah, I mean, we get the same fucking outcome here because Drogo's like, wow, I can't believe he would kill this wife that I love and my son that I'm really looking forward to. Yeah, I guess like Jor, it could have gone, both of those could have maybe worked, but it doesn't work if Viserys isn't alive. Yeah. For there to be a reason to do it, but um, I guess yeah, Jor was like, but I love her? Question mark, question mark, question mark. Right. Yeah, we'll never know, but I'm curious. I wanna know. It's just we won't, we're not going to. Not when I don't know if George knows.

Yeah. And I'm sure it's really not important, but it was just food for thought, you know? Like who the fuck knows? Probably doesn't matter, but. It's interesting to think about. Like actually, who knows? Maybe we will find out,

especially cause Illyrio says that Dandy was meant to die out there on the Dothraki Sea. Yeah, it makes me think the call's coming from inside the house, you know? The call is coming from inside the house? Dany is near tears on the way back. Her mouth is full of a taste that she hadn't tasted in quite a while. Fear. For years she lived in fear of waking the dragon, her brother Viserys, but this was worse.

She feared now not just for herself, but for her child, moving restlessly inside her and no doubt feeling that same fear. I wonder if babies can feel that inside you. I don't know. I do like, again, there's a lot of great dialogue between Dani's chapters and the chapters around it, even though she is having, even though her story happened so far away. This one's on the heels of Aria's own chapter with Aria's version of the Litany of Fear and you know the fear cuts deeper than swords which never makes it into the show. They have their fun like not today which is also iconic you know I will hand it to them that one was good. Hand it to them. I will hand it to them. That one was good.

Um, hand it to them. Well, while Arya is feeling fear now, right? In King's Landing and trying to get over it, the fear cuts deeper than sword's thing, like that's a wound that Daenerys has carried her whole life. Arya is only feeling it for a year into like going forward. Same with Sansa, but they had that childhood at least of that stability at one point. Daenerys has never, she has had to deal with that hurt and that sword looming over her and it's gonna be back. Yeah like forever. Yeah the sword of Damocles you know. Yeah absolutely. Absolutely. Shrodinger's sword. No, I'm just... Um... No, that's only Kat. Bwah!

Get out of here. That was good. Your sister. Do not have to hand it to them for that one. Will not hand it to them for that one. No hands. Dani strokes her stomach, telling Rago he is the blood of the dragon, and the dragon does not fear.

When they're home in Ves Dothrak, she commands everyone leave but her and Jorah. She asks if it was the usurper who sent this man, and he draws out a letter from Illyrio to Viserys, saying Robert is offering lands and lordships for her death or her brother's death. She gives a half laugh, a half sob. The usurper doesn't know yet. He owes Drogo and lordships for her death or her brother's death. She gives a half laugh, a half saw. The usurper doesn't know yet. He owes Drogo a lordship. Also, he's dead, so he doesn't know.

Does he know? So great. He doesn't know. He's going to find out. He's going to find out. They're going to find out. They're going to find out. No one has to know. But it's not just Dani that he wanted dead.

The more important part of all of this that comes to light is it's her child too. Yeah, because he was real bad. He's like, she could have a son, as we will all remember. Nothing's worse than a son, literally. No, for real. Okay. This is why people say we're sexist, huh? Whatever.

So we have a little exchange here of, no, you cannot have my son. She would not weep, she decided. She would not shiver with fear. The usurper has woken the dragon now, she told herself, and her eyes went to the dragon's eggs, resting in their nest of dark velvet. The shifting lamplight limbed their stony scales, and shimmering motes of jade and scarlet and gold swam in the air around them, like courtiers around the king. Was it madness that seized her then, born of fear, or some strange wisdom buried in her blood? Dany could not have said. She heard her own voice saying,

Ser Jorah, like the brazier. Khaleesi? The knight looked at her strangely. It is so hot. Are you certain? She had never been so certain. Yes. I… I have a chill. Like the brazier. Dany thinks to herself she must be mad, but when she's alone she lifted a black and scarlet egg from the velvet

Cradling it with both hands thinking it would only crack and burn. She puts it to the fire Listen regarding the madness thing. I just like really don't think it's that crazy to put the eggs on something hot You know, I've like watched an incubator before with the little chickens and like chickens they were fine. They became little chickies. And like something that's allegedly been turned into stone as they emphasize that the dragon eggs are, or feels like it's not gonna crack and burn on the brassiere, we're safe.

It was not crazy of you, girlfriend. It does suddenly feel like she had a vision or some sort of trance-like state, right? Especially the motes that she's seeing shining off the eggs and she heard her own voice saying the kind of disembodied feeling from it, like she's outside of this happening. I thought that was very interesting, the kind of dissociative nature looking at the motes of light around her. Also the way that, maybe it's just the way you said it, but the light courtiers around a king. Even though she doesn't really, besides obviously

Khal Drogo I guess having his men around him, she's never seen courtiers around a king like that. Like it almost feels like some sort of pull within her. Really interesting how we read the colors of the motes that are being reflected, right? Jade, scarlet, and gold. The secondary colors reflecting because the first colors with the cream black and bronze, those don't actually really, I mean bronze reflects but black wouldn't, etc. But I don't know, there's something really cool that she's seeing the secondary colors of the eggs. Like it feels like, I don't know, both of these eggs have like two colors, right, as their main color gradient going on. And then you have like Pokemon. Yeah.

Uh, and then you have like the black and red of the Targaryens and then you have, you know, the red being the black fire, right? If you chose red instead, team red or team green, in a way the red is like somewhat secondary to that black. And so like Dana, the defiant is the red, not Damon, but Dana. Dana really is the one that should reflect the red. And then I started thinking about like all of the Targaryen women that have been sidelined, et cetera, et cetera.

And like, she's seeing the second color, not the first color, she's seeing her. Yeah, she's seeing in between things. And there's also like, is it like a vision from her? Or like there have been people who have put forth like, is it from the eggs? You know, are they are like, probably? They're helping. They're helping. Yeah, I think so. That's her babies. They're telling her to wake them. Yeah, like, uh, oh, like, I assume having not read this part, like, Alia the knife, I guess, being like, I'm talking, I'm talking to you. But there you go. Is this did I did I interpret that correctly from all the spoilers that you've told me, Chloe? Um, kind of. Yes, but I will also say like, Alia is born and exists in the first book. And she's like, somewhat grown.

They changed that for the movie, if you remember from the first book, that she gets born. No, I don't remember. I have to get there later. Um. Okay. Well, Rui Rui. That was 20 years ago. I'm sorry.

Well. I'm not, I'm not, I'm 10 years old. Jesus. Okay, so the scales glow as they drink the heat, and she places the egg siblings in the fire too, watching until the coals turn to ash. Heat shimmers and that is all. She thinks of Jorah telling her that Rhaegar had been the last dragon and wonders what she expected. They are just rocks. They can't make a dragon. A dragon is air and flesh, not dead stone." Like, oh my god, does no one know how to, like, hatch eggs here? Anyways, um, when Drogo returns home, Caholo leads a pack horse behind him, a great white lion carcass across its back,

and the stars are coming out. And I feel as though there was kind of like a tension here, right, when Drogo goes out on the hunt for the Hrakkar, you know, like the white lion, and you're like, hmm, should I be nervous for Drogo? Should I be worried about him? Because the last time I saw a leader go out on a hunt for a dangerous animal, he got mortally wounded. Yeah, and like also Drogo's wound is kind of parallel to Robert's, right?

When he does get wounded next chapter, though they get them differently, but it like kind of highlights both of their pride, both of the situations does. They're both like very them ways to die, very similar that they're like, I must go fight drunk and he's like, I must go fight drunk. And he's like, I must go fight. So yeah, exactly. I think there's something there's something there that's being played with. I kind of think that it all wraps into like the idea of the infernal hunt and the wild hunt.

I was considering this today. I was thinking very deeply upon it. It's widespread European folklore motif you found in like Germanic, Celtic, Slavic traditions, and it's basically a supernatural group of hunters, often dead souls, spirits, or demonic hounds that are led by a powerful mythological or legendary figure like Odin or Hearn the Hunter or Gwynapnud or even biblical or demonic figures like Cain or the devil. And this was all popularized by Jacob Grimm, so the concept like existed, but he is who popularized it. He believed pre-Christian pagan roots probably existed with this idea, and that's where

he took it from. So he would associate the male leader of the hunt with the god Woden, or Odin, and over time Christian influence changed the story from a divine procession into a terrifying ghostly phenomena that may have contributed to witches to their Sabbath. So witnessing the spiritual hunt was seen as a bad omen, and it would foretell war, plague, death, etc. In some versions, you could be abducted by the

hunt to the underworld, or forced to join it in spirit in your sleep against your will. So it appears in many names and forms like Scandinavian folklore, the wild hunt is closely associated with Odin, and he had a midwinter procession across the sky. And then there's something that really sticks out to me, which is Nostaggio delle Onesti and the Caccia Morta, or the Caccia Infernale, or the Caccia Selvagia, whichever one you want to go with for the infernal hunt here. And so he's a protagonist in one of the hundred short stories in the Decameron. So he's a wealthy nobleman from Ravenna, falls in love with a noblewoman, she cruelly

rejects him. He's heartbroken, he's suicidal, and he retreats to a nearby forest and witnesses a very supernatural scene. A naked woman being hunted and killed every Friday by a knight and his dogs. Her punishment for having rejected her lover in life. So the knight explains this is divine justice. Both he and the woman has died tragically due to her cruelty. Okay. Friendzone, I guess. Okay, Jorah. Nostagio, inspired by the event, invites the girl he loves

and her family to a banquet in the same forest the following week, when the ghostly scene replays in front of them. His beloved is so terrified that she's like, I'll marry you. I'll marry you like right now. I'll marry you, ASAP. Like, I don't want to die like that. So they marry the next Sunday and the story serves as a warning to the other women in Ravenna to be kinder in matters of love. You know, men are sensitive. So I don't know, there's something in there though. And the idea of like a ghostly hunt and like even the idea of ghosts, like like Robert, people that have been maybe dead in a way for longer than they're giving on, right?

His ghostly hunt and the rejection of a woman and I don't know, there's something with the Infernal Wild Hunt with some themes here. The rejection of Jorah, Dani and Drogo's relationship and how it's grown. And then next episode when Dani attempts to save the woman from being hunted, right? The lamb woman, in a way. And she interrupts the Infernal Hunt. I don't know, something about the underworld, the foretelling of war, plague, and death to come. The Infernal Hunt ended and Drogo came home.

Yeah, I really like the lines that you've drawn here with the Infernal Hunt and the Wild Hunt because, you're right, there is something kind of like larger than life about it, almost feels like supernatural and it becomes even more so, and how that's being played with. And like the lion is the trophy of that hunt when Drogo's gone. Yeah, but you're right, there's also something there

like kind of unsettling, right? That they don't only just go out there and hunt the wild line. They're hunting people a lot. And like, when you think about it, like it ties even back to the others, like I guess, but there instead of like the wolves, right? Like they're using zombies to go do weird hunting.

And I know that you and I have talked about the Decameron a little bit, like very loosely on this podcast. You've actually like, I don't know, dug into it. I've just watched the comedic Netflix series about it. Well, I still have it. I really need to. I mean, it's fun. That's good. That's a good way to do it. Sometimes we just need fun.

Like the Infernal Hunt. That's fun. Also, I think there's a great painting The Infernal Hunt, that's fun. Also I think there's a great painting that I think a guy... Was it Botticelli? Some guy named Botticelli. I don't know if you've ever heard of him. It was Sylvain Bottley. Yeah. Oh my god. I wish. Not Triss's dad. No, I do think that there's a Botticelli of it or something that's very beautiful and popular of the Infernal Hunt. Well, they're about to go... well, I mean, Drogo's about to promise that we're gonna go on a big hunt across the sea. He tells Dani that he's going to make a cloak out of this lion, and then Dani tells him,

like, what happened today at the market, and then he grows very quiet. Drogo says that the Poisoner was the first, but will not be the last. Drogo is quiet for a for time and then he speaks. Oh, he's thoughtful. See, that's what I'm saying, like he gives this like sick speech. He's like a really great orator. Yeah. But he's thoughtful about it.

He plans it all out. He writes the whole thing in his head but not writes because they don't have a writing system. Anyways. This seller of poisons ran from the moon of my life. Better he should run after her. So he will. Zhogo. Zhora Viando. To each of you I say, choose any horse you wish from my herds and it is yours. Any horse save my red and the silver that was my bride gift to the moon of my life.

I make this gift to you for what you did. And to Rhaego, son of Drogo, the stallion who will amount the world. To him I also pledge a gift. To him I will give this iron chair his mother's father sat in. I will give him seven kingdoms. I, Drogo, Kal, will do this thing." His voice rose and lifted his fist to the sky. I will take my khalasar west to where the world ends, And ride the woody horses across the black salt water As no Kal has done before. I will kill the men in the iron

suits and tear down their stone houses. I will rape their woman, take their children as slaves and bring their broken gods back to Ves Dothra to bow down beneath the mother of mountains. This I vow. I, Drogo, son of Barbo, this I swear before the Mother of Mountains as the stars look down in witness. His khalasar lak faced Othraq two days later, striking south and west across the plains. Khal Drogo led them on his great red stallion, witharius beside him on her silver. The wine cellar hurried behind them naked on foot, chained at the throat and wrists. His chains were fastened to the halter of Danny's silver. As she rode, he ran after her barefoot and stumbling. No harm would come to him so long as he kept up. No harm would come to him so long as he kept up. This was a beautiful gesture of love.

This is an awesome speech. I do take umbrage with the I will rape their women. I would be like interesting. Yeah. Do you not wish for my... Is that romantic? As I read that, as I read that out loud, I was like, please don't cancel me. No, I'm just kidding.

I'm like, I don't agree with what I'm saying out loud. Yeah. He also I mean, even Danny later on is like, I don't I don't know about that. I know about the raping of their women and taking their children. As like, honey, you got a little excited in that speech. Yeah, chapter seven, she's like, hmm, we're going to rein in the raping, maybe. Yeah, let's just not do that. I do like that he's like, yeah, I'm going to bring their broken gods back to base Dothraki. And so that means he means to cross back.

Like, wow, you just really crossed the threshold of your own fear, you know? Like, yeah, I'm going to cross the sea. I'm going to do it twice to bring back my statues. Yeah, because if Waifi was that brave, then I could be too. Yeah. Wow. And I think the way that the punishment is done is really interesting here, right? Like, for some reason, I really thought that there was a one-one, like, biblical or mythological reference in it, and there's really not. There isn't anything quite like this. There are punishments that are like humiliating and somewhat like this but nothing where somebody is tied to a horse and made to

keep up, which I think is fascinating because for some reason in my head I really swear there was one and I don't think there is but it is cruel. It does fit the crime in some aspects and I think there's something so inherently like Dothraki about it in that it's judging the worth of the man. Like he can live if he can keep up. Like to the points of, um, urine drowning bodily, right? Uh, it's fits in their culture. Their culture's values say like, are you man enough to keep up? Are you worth living? If you're not worth living, then you can remove yourself from the equation by failing.

And that is a lot of when we talk about Dani's ambition and why she fits in the Kallasar and with her cos. Like she was able to assimilate to their life better than Viserys because she does have that ambition. She has that, I am enough. I can be enough. I'm enough. There's almost like, she's enough. And there's almost that, like, like you were kind of saying something

to this too, like of suffering and thinking that to make one's life valid, you should be able to survive that suffering. Right? Like what was it for? Why did you survive all of this in the first place? And I feel like there's some of that to it too. So kind of interesting, like prove your worth, hard mode. Absolutely. I don't know why, when I'm thinking of the parallels, what comes to mind for me are like the ones of Tantalus, you know, like you can, maybe it's just like because the water's up to his neck, I don't know.

Like he tries to drink from it, it goes away, he tries to reach the branch, and it goes out of reach, and this thing branch and it goes out of reach and this thing's always gonna be out of reach because like you can only run so fucking fast, you know, you can't run as fast as a horse. That's why they call it a horsepower, not manpower on cars, you know? No, I'm not even really joking. I know you're not. That's why I said, oh my god. Yeah, and as you said, it feels very Dothraki in the way that it's administered and partially because it even like feels kind of like, it's doubly humiliating in that, can you keep up with the horse and then the tying and the dragging, but also when we think about it

in the context of this series, like it was fucking humiliating that you don't get to be on a horse. Like now you really get it how humiliating it is. Wow. Yeah. See, that was easy mode, this one's hard mode. Yeah, Viserys, you could have been tied to the back of a horse. Yeah, they were being nice to you, bitch. Rest in piss, bitch. We were nice to him for like three weeks, so it's over. Yeah, also it's like, we say very Dothraki, but I guess in some aspects

It's a little bit Valyrian too, right? Equivalent exchange going on. Oh true. Yeah. Well, yeah, this guy paid a lot He paid with- I mean he didn't need his wares anyway because he's dead Yeah, we made him asset light actually It's a new thing that the Dothraki and Daenerys Alliance are doing. We can make you asset light. We take your assets and you die. Yeah, exactly. So that's Daenerys VI. You start to get to see the ball really rolling and her, what she's like on her own, now that Viserys is no longer looming over her. Yeah, and next week shit gets even crazier in Danny 7. We're going to meet Miriam as Dore and yeah shit's about to get real and thankfully we're gonna have Madeline our friend join us for the

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