Girls Gone Canon Cast - ASOIAF Episode 251 — AGOT Daenerys X

Episode Date: May 16, 2025

Only death can pay for life. ----- Backgrund music Silver Flame Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/ --- Eliana's twitter: https://twitter.com/arhythmetric Eliana's reddit account: https://www.reddit.com/user/glass_table_girl Eliana's blog: https://themanyfacedblog.wordpress.com/ Chloe's twitter: https://twitter.com/liesandarbor Chloe's blog: liesandarborgold.com Intro by Anton Langhage

Hello and welcome to Girls Gone Cannon Reads of Song of Ice and Fire, Episode 251, Danny 10 in a Game of Thrones. I am one of your hosts, Chloe. And I am another one of your hosts, Eliana. And fittingly, today is Mother's Day as we record. Oh my god, it is. Did we plan this? I'm not gonna say we didn't. I'm not gonna say we did either.

I'm not gonna say we didn't. I'm not gonna say we did either. It's Mother's Day, which is, I don't know, it's just kind of perfect for this chapter, in my opinion. My god, Mother you're dripping. Yes, it's Mother's Day. Mother of Dragons. Dani is mothering. We are at the Mothering Convention.

Yes. Yeah. Um, this month, another person that's mothering and we want to tell you all about her is Ray Alice. We will be putting out a Patreon episode for patrons in the Stranger Tier and above over at patreon.com slash girls gone canon. And you've got to go watch In the Lost Lands, the movie. We will be watching it. We've already discussed and actually publicly made available our In the Lost Lands novella that you can go check out. We've talked about that on the cast and now we're going to talk about the movie and compare

and it's going to be fun. So you're invited to the other Mother Convention with Gray Alice. With Gray Alice, yes. And if you want to maybe, I don't know, discuss that movie, discuss the story with other people who haven't really talked about it on the Discord, but you could theoretically. You're the first one. You can start that discussion by joining our Patreon Discord, which is available for patrons

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We have a lot, again, of emails and tweets of note. We've just been really packing this section these past few weeks. We've been reaping and sowing, you know, we've been doing all of it. True. Well, we got a follow-up from our friend Helix Fossil in recognizing our efforts, that we got international recognition for our efforts from, you know, the artistic community, the creative community. Helix Fossil said, 10,000 throats roared out their thanks, then 20,000, then all. They did not call their names.

BAFTA! They cried instead. They stamped their feet and slapped their bellies and shouted BAFTA! BAFTA! BAFTA! until the whole pit seemed to tremble. Thanks for the shoutout. The sweet Kevin McLeod edits shall continue. Great stuff. Thanks Helix Fossil. It's very fun. I love this. I slapped their bellies. Yes! Bafta! Bafta! Bafta for Girls Got Cannon. Also, like, no lie, it made me think of our friend, Belos, and then he's coming. He is coming. Dude, he is coming!

He's coming, he's coming, he's coming. Let me lay it on the line. Actually, he does not have to on the vine. That is not the case for Strong Belt Lost. Do you remember this George Washington song? So I still think about it a lot from Brad Neely. I'll send it to you. Thank you. It was a classic. Huh? You're like, was it was it only on it was a classic.

I think that or some of his other some of his other like animations were maybe on Adult Swim for a little bit. Oh, okay. I think I know who you're talking. Okay. Maybe I'm, maybe I'm caught up now. Maybe, maybe. Lead with that next time. Well, we're catching up with also some of our emails. We have one from our friend Rowan that we've saved for this week. This is not a classic Rowan report. Um, about She says. Rowan reports are only about the Queen Cersei.

The Queen Cersei, wow. Whoa, whoa, let me take this back. Hold up. We're in the wrong chapters. Yeah, but Rowan says, Queen Cersei of House Lannister, long may she reign, but your most recent episode, this was sent back with Madeline, brought up a wonderful point that I wanted to expand on, of the point she made about Dani's chapters and the Cat chapters being about political awakening. I would take it further and say that this is true in there about opposite types of political

awakenings, empowerment versus disillusionment. Dani is gaining a sense of agency and the motivation to try to change a system, while Catlin is realizing that the systems that have seemingly worked in her favor for her whole life are actually failures, and that she does not have agency. Your discussion of how women only have power via proxy of the men in their life underscores the contrast. Dani gains power and liberation when she loses the men in her life but gains dragons. While Catelyn becomes trapped in a fate that leads to her semi-death despite doing all the right things in quotes precisely because of the men in her life, she is unable to gain agency within

the patriarchal system where men's bad decisions shape women's lives. Her ages also play a role in the power mint versus disillusionment arcs as someone who focuses on adolescent psychotherapy professionally. I love working with teens because they're learning to understand themselves as people in the world and gaining a sense of self. Whereas many of us in Catlin's age bracket, which Rohan emphasizes, which surely does not include myself or either of you. Goddamn right. Roa emphasizes, which surely does not include myself or either of you.

Goddamn right. But at this point in our lives, and especially at this moment in the United Shits of America, have had our eyes open in the opposite way, realizing that we cannot transcend and change oppressive systems, although we can do little things to try. Circe fascinatingly sits somewhere outside both of these political awakening frameworks. Her life experiences have made her understand how powerless she is as a woman, but damned if she's not going to try to change that and rise above the system of power that oppresses her.

I'm not like other girls. Anyway, I love how George uses different characters to explore a theme and had never contemplated this Dani slash Kat aspect before. What a great Rowan report. Like that is the kind of Rowan report that I want to sit and open like a newspaper on a sunny morning and like I don't smoke cigarettes, but I kind of want to smoke a cigarette and have a coffee while reading it and just like take a deep breath and go ah, as I read through and parse through.

It had everything. It had humor. It had intelligence intelligence it had grace Great email. Thank you, Rowan. I agree. I love what you've pulled out here of kind of Catalin and Danny and how their arcs rely in certain ways and where they evolve right Danny Breaks those chains off of herself in a way. This chapter is kind of what allows her to do that this chapter off of herself in a way. This chapter is kind of what allows her to do that. This chapter, we see it happen with her castes. And at first they are hesitant, they will not be supporting her. And she does what she does. And then they're like, Oh, yeah, sorry about earlier,

by the way. You're the boss. Yeah, about that. I love your fire lizards. Thank you, ma'am. Yeah, I do. I think it's interesting regarding that contrast of age of, you know, the usefulness of wanting to make change versus how one gets older because I don't think I feel that way, I will say that. Not that I'm Catlin's age. Maybe I'm even older, you know, because I didn't die. Well, I will be. I will be later this year, but not dead. Older. Sorry. I was like, wait, hold up. Older? I don't know. I think there are just George's story is so focused on like those individuals, right? Whereas there has to be like movements organizing things like that.

And unfortunately, fantasy stories tend to focus on like one hero making that sort of systemic change when that's not actually how it happens. But yeah, absolutely. That's all. That's the bigger point, right? That that's the insanity. Like it needs more than that. Yeah. Yeah. It takes a village, which I mean, I think a nation. I do think like Daenerys story somewhat explores that. We see it a little bit with like, you know, is it with Meereen and like, you know, the revolt and even like with Astapor and having the Insullied do all that. But I think we would see it more amongst the free cities later on. I'm curious to see how that goes like, and then Entos especially. I'm curious. That's such a light way of putting it.

I'm curious. Like you're in the- No, you gotta keep the bar low. Curious. That's such a light way of putting it. I'm curious. Like, you're in the- You gotta keep the bar low. Just gotta keep the bar low. I'm curious for Tiwau. Look under your chair. I burn. I pine. I perish. I do yearn for Tiwau. Like, yes, I, like you, yearn for it, but I just don't want to get over-emotional. I know.

Okay? Women be getting over emotional about T-Wow. Madness. Our friend Mary, the wonderful Maester Mary. I'm like, we just got such great emails. Thanks for sending us all this great stuff, y'all. Our friend Maester Mary said, something I realized listening to your discussion of whether Mary committed fraud by implying the horse was the price Danny may have learned a very important lesson from her. Withholding and misleading information is a powerful tool

for dealing with someone with relatively more power than you. Consider that what Mary does may lay the groundwork for Dannyany's masterful trick fuck in purchasing the Unsullied in ASOS. Yes! The Masters assume they are purchasing a dragon they can control, but a dragon is no slave. Neither is Mirri. I'm still working through this, but given how Dany comes up with her plan for liberating the Unsullied on her own and how interwoven Mirri Mazdor's story is with slavery, it's hard to imagine Dany didn't think of her in some way during that plot. Not a perfect analog, but the ideas of death paying

for life, the vengeance of the oppressed, and trapping someone with a bargain are present in both trades. The parallel is fruitful for thinking about how George pushes us to think about the line between righteousness and justice and the tactics we use to fight oppression and also the differences between Miri and Dani. Yes. Yeah. Yes, yes, yes. Incredible.

I love what you've pulled out here and there's a lot of that progression of Dani learning in this book, especially, right? Bit by bit. And I feel like there's going to be maybe especially like Pentos, there's going to be further of this and we see how she does that in uh with you know Dario and the second sons and like kind of the trickery that's used there she does use trickery also kind of reminds me of Tyrion some of what you're saying here with the the withholding information so like it makes me think as we think towards Tyrion in the future when we cover him him him and Dany, he's probably

going to bring out some of those worst parts of her, right? Like maybe like lay on some of the manipulation and like maybe corrupt her a little bit towards using more trickery to win. Obviously she uses it and she uses it for good reason, but I could just see that becoming a little more corrupt than it is now. LS. I agree with what you're saying, like Tyrion playing sort of that Iago character and also just stoking Tenerys' worst impulses because I think, you know, she would still be doing things with the goal of doing good granted. Well, hold on. So I'm thinking about like the trajectory of things. I think Tyrion's role,

I guess, probably comes in more with when she's in Westeros versus the righteousness with which she would be doing things in Essos. Because I assume that if Tyrion and Daenerys don't intersect until End of Winds, a lot of like her Winds arc would be, you know, free cities here, blah, just the SO stuff, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, I know I agree with the logic there. So when she gets to Westeros, and with what you're saying, it's different when you're performing this trickery against a slaver who is speaking very shittily and treating very shittily these people that you're like, I could fix this for them, I could get them out of this bullshit.

Then like, coming to Westeros and doing that to a great house who's also corrupt and bad, but it's different when it's like, oh, but now you're doing it to the Lannisters and now we're watching that play out and I think there is a difference in Westeros compared to the Free Cities obviously when it comes to that. So I could see Tyrion kind of egging that on. And that may be not being, yeah. I don't know. I like the Iago angle though, absolutely.

But also, yeah, I also just really loved this analysis from Mary in that we've discussed this in a previous chapter. We see that Daenerys is learning the lessons of rulership and she just takes from all sorts of different places, right? And implements those lessons in her life and how she approaches things. So I absolutely believe that this could be inspired by Miriam Mazdor a little or a lot. Yeah, I think it's great to see those kind of lessons. Like you look at Bran with Luin,

right? And like taking some of Luin's lesson and then Bran with Theon even and kind of taking some of those lessons from Theon in a bad way, right? Like not in a bad way, but I mean taking the negative lessons and turning them into something greater. Each of these younger characters kind of goes through that. Sansa with Cersei, Sansa with Littlefinger, Arya with her cast of revolving characters that she goes off on the road with, right? Sandor, obviously, Yorin, some of the unsavory characters that are kind of inspiring in some

ways that maybe might not be good necessarily, but you learn these lessons from and that impacts how their later rulership will be. Yeah, and I think that's why it's so impactful, like, what Tyrion will do, because a lot of the examples that you gave, like, especially with Sansa, like no one's actually stepped into or told Dany, I'm your mentor. Some people have like kind of tried to say to Sansa, I'm like teaching you and I'm like, these are weird lessons you're giving this little girl, but no one says that to Daenerys. No one like cares to teach her.

And by the time she's at a point where that could be the case of mentorship, she's a queen. So there's like a weird like power disparity. You try and get that a little with like Barristan and Jorah, but Jorah's a fucking weirdo. And Barristan's like got his baggage. Well I was gonna say Jorah was that for like this book, right? Like Jorah was like her con- he was the consistent beat of like, no you don't do this, you do this or here's the

soft info I need to tell you. He doesn't necessarily too often act out, but like this chapter he gets told off and he deserves it. That's true. He always deserves it. But like for Tyrion to come in and be like, I know this, and to present himself as someone who can guide her will be so meaningful because she hasn't had someone to say and do that for her. She has to just piece together those lessons and be proactive.

Yeah, absolutely. Delicious. Can't wait for T-Wow someday or a dream of spring someday. So curious. So curious about a dream of spring. I'm not even like, I'm so over T-Wow. I just want Ados now. I'm like, yeah, you can just like, I can figure it out. I can figure out what happens in Tee-wow. I just want Ados now. I'm like yeah, you can figure it out

I can figure out what happens in Tee-wow, you know, but Ados. I feel the same I've already read Tee-wow, so I could just skip that one We did get a beautiful photo of a cat With the best name like you think Danny has titles get ready With the bass name like you think Danny has titles get ready Nimbus LaForge the toasted marshmallow from our friend Sarah. Thank you. Thank you for this beautiful I mean Eliana will you give us a description of what? Yeah, oh my god Nimbus is so cute Nimbus is like Nimbus is named as such because Nimbus is like a little white fluffy cloud

Which has like these little pointy impish ears Nimbus is blind but like has like such a cute little face. This is not a great description I'm just going... sorry. No, this is exactly what we wanted. This is what we're keeping. And this, like there's this beautiful little photo of Sarah and Nimbus cuddling. Nimbus just looks so peaceful, you know? Peaceful and like, uh, beautiful baby. Wow. Well, actually, Nimbus has some like some like brown spots. This is kind of like, um, I don't know. Toasted marshmallow is a good description. Yeah. I do like the, yeah, I love that. Like flame tip almost. Beautiful. He's a Turkish fan, so he's going to be real big.

Apparently he's only eight months old, but already eight and a half pounds. Loves his big brother, a pit bull that Sarah has sent us in the past as well. As somebody of Turkish descent, I understand that because I too am very large. That's how it works, right? I guess so. You are very tall. I'm also Turkish, so just like that cat. Well, Sarah has a lot of animals, by the way.

Yeah, a lot of animals. You can send us your animals, too, if you want us to describe them on air badly or well. Like, hmmm. Let me just hmmm at the screen. I hope you all imagined the animal during that. That was really important. I hope you get to use your imagination. We need to use our imaginations because if you don't use them you lose them. It's very important. That is actually true. I do believe that So what I did was try to strengthen your muscles for you. You're welcome You can regain it but you got to use it. Yeah. Yeah, it's easier

If you do little exercises once in a while, keep it keep it tight. So email us your pets. Girl's Gone Cannon, gmail.com. We had a comment on Discord from our friend Tech and I really love this. They posted this back for 18 and they said, I never picked up on the link between Jogo being the first to swear his oath as Danny's blood rider but now that you've pointed that out I'm thinking about all the other ways the whip is used as a motif in her story. Jogo is the one who intervenes and stops Viserys from hurting her when they're crossing the Dothraki Sea. There's a Harpy's whip in Aesopor, the symbol of ownership of the Unsullied, which she sells

Drogon for and then casts to the ground when she immediately frees them. Her riding Drogon, obviously, but particularly the passage in her final dance chapter about how a horse moves away from the whip but a dragon moves towards it, because a dragon's first instinct is to attack what's trying to hurt it. And isn't there something in one of Barristan's chapters where he thinks about how he looked down on the red lamp for using a whip until he realizes it takes such an incredible level of skill because it's easier to hurt yourself with it than your enemy when you use it as a weapon. Tech gives a little caveat that they might be misremembering that a little bit, but anyways,

very interesting tech ends with it's simultaneously used as both a symbol of slavery and a symbol of rebellion against slavery. And I really, I just love that analysis. I love that. Really well analyzed. I also love like we're gonna come back to the bride gifts, right? And they really wrap into those thematics as well. So those will be coming.

Thank you for the comment. Well, let's move into this lightning round. We've done it. We're here. This is what you missed between the penultimate chapter for Dany, Daenerys Nine in the Game of Thrones, and the ultimate Dany chapter in Game of Thrones, Dany Ten. Starting with Tyrion Nine, Tyrion takes the handjob and brings his lady Shae with him to court. Jon Nine.

Jon decides it's just desserts, but his friends bring him back. Sorry, I failed my comedy writer for a moment. You guys don't know this, because I'm gonna take it out. I failed my comedy writer. My Ava Daniels. Oh my god. Oh, you are kind of old. I know.

Too smart. I'm all caught up right now with Hax and it's so good. I'm behind. Everyone needs to get caught up. I think maybe two, three episodes. Um. You're killing me, Eliana. You're literally killing me.

I know, I'm behind on everything. I'm killing Chloe. I'm so sorry. How dare you? This is like, how many things am I behind on that? Like you're like Eliana. At least six? Probably, honestly. How dare you. How dare you. This is like, how many things am I behind on that like, you're like, Ellie, I don't know. At least six.

Probably, honestly. Catalin, 11. Catalin returns to Riverrun where her father is ill. Rob calls a council, a great council, you could say, and is proclaimed the King in the North. The King in the North! The King in the North! The King in the North! The King in the North! The King in the North!

And that brings us here to Daenerys X in A Game of Thrones. Your ex-lover is dead. When there's nothing left to burn, you have to set yourself on fire. Waaahhh! Waaahhh! It's actually,

there's so many ways that this is perfect, but also especially the live through this and you won't look back. And I'm like, Oh, wow. If she looks back, she is lost. Yeah, absolutely. That is the second song on my Daenerys playlist actually. Wow, Nick says. The second song in the on my Daenerys playlist actually. Wow, makes sense. The second song in the playlist, yeah.

Pretty good playlist. We're not there yet, but you'll all get it later. I'll put it out there sometime. You have to earn your way to it by listening to all of our coverage of Dany. It's a good playlist though. It's a good playlist. Yeah. Part of me was like, I don't know, what is there even to say about this chapter? Part of it is like,

Didn't want to analyze it because I'm just like just read it and just enjoy it. Just soak it all in, you know It's just so good. It's like the perfect culmination of her last Chapters in a game of Thrones. I mean, it's all leading up to this It's always interesting when we analyze these chapters in a row because often in the buildup to the ultimate chapter of the book, the ultimate chapters, I mean it's kind of like the similar episode 9, episode 10 problem that Game of Thrones would have, right? Episode 9 was the big chapter with all the crap popping off and the 10th episode would always be kind of like the post climax and everything like here's how it's going to going forward and Gathering after the war gathering after the storm and this in a way has another big explosion

but it's all done in a manner of like Like Danny's very cool and knows what she's doing very collected like she's not panicking. There's no panic There's not a note of panic in this chapter for her. Everything. Yeah, that's very sure She's very calm. She moves from thing to thing just knowing, very certain and very assured of what she's doing and that like everything that led up to this was panicked. Everything before this was the panic where like now she realizes this is always what it was leading to. So it's done in a tone that I really appreciate. And I mean it's not even just like reading all of Dani's chapters together in this,

like in general, it's just a perfect end to A Game of Thrones, like all of the characters and the chapters that are in this. And it's just, George put his whole grandmasse into it. It's just so beautifully written as well. What a way to end the first one. I know. It is. There's no way you read A Game of Thrones which is so tight.

There's not really an ounce of fat in this book, honestly. There's nothing that you can't have in this book. Everything is so fundamental and primary. This is the primary colors of Aeswaf, your very first three building blocks that you wouldn't have the rest without. You couldn't garden the rest without this one. And it's so tight, everything moves so fast. Even though it's a decent sized book for your average reader, it's not too long and it moves and it moves

and it moves. And when you get to the end, of course it's a hit. This chapter is why the HBO show was made. This chapter is why George has his cinematic universe popping off. He wouldn't have that if it wasn't for the writing in this chapter and it shows. So even if you listen to this- This is how you fucking end a book. Just go reread this whole chapter. Just enjoy it. Just enjoy it once without thinking about it. Just enjoy. The first sentence is so good. The land was red and dead and parched, and good wood was hard to come by.

Ugh, so good. The forgers returned with limbs and branches cut off of their straightest trees and filled the center with dry kindling that they had found. Rikaro chooses a stallion in the square, and in the square, Ago feeds him a withered apple and then kills the stallion with an axe between its eyes. And part of me wonders if we're going to see an echo of the building of this giant pyre, again, in a dream of spring, or Daenerys maybe thinking about this, or a mirroring of language, because they have to build pyres to burn the corpses so that the others can't resurrect them, like mass pyre. Or do they have one where they just, I don't know,

do they just shove all the whites, corral all the whites into one? I don't know. LS. Yeah, absolutely. It makes me think a little bit about some of the corralling they do in The Walking Dead. Because you start to realize it's something, you know, a lot of zombie stories. Help, sunlight, zombies. Yeah, zombie stories. But you start to realize there's always this great trope of in zombie stories you realize killing them draws more attention and you might need to learn to work around them and

live around them and make make traps and you know Like corral them in a certain way and herd them and go places So I think that's gonna be really fun to play with in the Winds of Winter I'm very curious about the Winds of Winter when George has zombies and because that you can't Just have battles with the zombies because you'll just lose a bajillion people over time There has to be a way you figure some stuff out. So I'll see. We'll see. Look under your chair. Also, I like the way that we start knowing that Rikaro has been commanded to go get a horse. Like Danny's got a setup going. Like Danny is like, we are making a pyre. We are making a tribute.

We are making sacrifices and Danny is in command making a tribute, we are making sacrifices, and Danny is in command and telling people, do this, do this. Like, you open him, Rikaro is doing this, he is getting a horse, they're feeding him an apple to get him to the center so they can murder him and use him as part of the sacrifice. Why are Rikaro and Agro doing that? Well… And you think it's part of just, again funeral pyre because we do know from the previous chapter that Part of the ritual is to send someone off with like their steed and they they a horse, you know To me we are already kind of used up. You call drug goes a horse deed

Yeah, this actual horse last time whoops And then, Miri comments on this. She's watching from afar and she tells Dani that a horse's blood is not enough by itself. Blood magic is not a game for children. She calls Dani a child and she's like, you're a child with a child's ignorance and if you loose me I can help you. She's begging, she's trying to barter for her life. But Danny's tired of her braying, and Jogo also, and he whips Miri and she falls silent. It's kind of funny she uses the term braying associated with horses bleeding. Well, oh

wait, or maybe sheep. Also sheep, yeah. Donkey. Donkey. Sorry, the Shrek came out for a moment. Um. Get Shrek'd. What's most interesting to me is how Mirri Mazdur tells Dani that Daenerys doesn't have the words to make a spell, and turns out Daenerys doesn't really need it, right? Like, Mirri thinks because that's how she's been taught you need to have the words, like, activated,

but it's like how we find out Thoros didn't really need the right words to bring back Beric, and Beric didn't need any words to resurrect Lady Stoneheart. There's something else going on here where the powers are stronger like than words to bring back the magic.

Something else actually activates it. Well, and not to come back to King's blood, right? But there's power in blood. There's power in full blood. I feel like it's just blood, yeah. Yeah, blood magic, man. So we're about to boil some blood, some Cal Drogo blood, you know? You can boil blood, that's so true.

Then we burn it all up, the solids in it. Mmm, yum. I very much enjoy this the way that like, Miri is still instructing her and giving her hints and also Dani's been taking notes since the last chapter and so I very much enjoy that we've spoken of Dani's adapting in the background quietly but here she's doing it in the foreground, not the background. She's been doing the math for the last two chapters. She's been putting the puzzle pieces together to understand what's needed to wake the dragon. She gets it now.

She understands. It's the same. It's the same. Don't you see? She sees. Can't she see? Why can't they see? Oh, I can't.

I love the taste of Cinnamon Toast Crunch. God. I really like what you said here, because I think also there's a lot to sympathize with from Mirri. She's not wrong in the lesson that she told Daenerys about, you know, what happened to the Lazarine and asking, you know, what did you save me from? But it does feel pointed, these lamb men, right, with the past of the Valyrians, they used to be shepherds before they were dragon riders. And Miri's kind of pointing out that what you did was like maybe an individual act of kindness. You think, sure, maybe you had good intent, but it was too small of an

impact. And it was maybe serving your sense of what was right versus on an individual level versus the systemic one that Daenerys thought she was doing. And she's going to learn, as you said, she's going to learn from all this. And yes, Meeri was never truly free. Daenerys did not understand that, didn't understand that distinction of slavery initially. And we see from the way that Meeri Mazdor is treated here, she was never truly free now that she's no longer needed. But I think her portrayal here is very interesting because as you said, Miri's trying to bargain still. And the fact that she does that sets her up, I think to be an actual antagonist in the storyline because of this moment,

even though what she says, that's what makes her a great character, right? Like she's, she's not wrong in a lot of what she told us last time. And it's understandable for anyone obviously to want to live. Of course she's trying to bargain. But with this, you know, she did commit treason, which is a crime against one's own government or sovereign, whether or not like you agree with that government or sovereign, it's treason. And that she tries-

Sorry, and you're saying that she is governed by them, though? Is she not? Well, I guess if she's property, does she get to have that? I don't know. Yeah. I'm like, those are two different ideas, right? That's true. You're right. Do the Lazarine report up? Do they roll up into the Dothraki? Are the Dothraki their governance? I don't know. I don't think they are. By what right? That's a good point.

By what right? Yeah, well, they're forced to, but that's a good point. She's property and we're seeing again what that means. Like she's, she had no, she had no rights. Um, especially now that she's no longer needed. I mean, she had rights before. She didn't have rights before. Yes. Yeah. But she's now that she's no longer needed. I mean, she had rights before. She didn't have rights before.

She was taken as property during this. Yeah, she's saying as a slave, you have no rights. And this is what it is to be an object. But I think it's interesting that the story is trying to paint her as cowardly for that bargaining or lacking integrity. And I'm not saying that she's doing that, that she has none, but that the text is portraying her as such, or being like, oh, just free me and I can do more things for you.

You know? It's very interesting. Like, girl, you already have done enough. First of all, you've done enough here. I was like, whoa. Well, I also think there's something interesting in the condemning of Mirri, right? Like, yes, Mirri could help her and teach her through this, but also because she trusted Mirri and it went poorly.

But also politically, because the very few people she has left in the Calassar did not agree with her. Still. True. Like, no one in the Calassar agreed with her letting Mirri Mazdor help Drogo. So even the people there, she has to condemn hard in front of them to keep their loyalty and support. She has to say, Mirri Mazdor, you're evil, even if Mirri Mazdor did

tell her the truth of what she was asking for and she didn't listen, even through all those things. So she has kind of chosen to put this public face on of condemning Miriam as Dora and giving her the harshest punishment. Even though necessarily does it fit the crime in some aspects, right? Like, no, not necessarily. And I also think there's something in like her bargaining for her life. There's a lot of faith surrounding that that like Yeah, she said like she says, you know, you can burn me

I will not scream and she loses her faith, right? Like she goes as a woman that is very much about her faith and says that she will die for her cause She will die for her beliefs like she will go down and she will not scream because like her beliefs are strong enough that they will take her on into her afterlife and Then at the end of this chapter she's screaming on the pyre or the end of the chapter for her I should say as she's screaming on the pyre like she's lost her faith, right? And we see that come up a lot for like Melisandre Is she having flickers of losing her faith and sometimes like maybe sometimes not fully is she very much is a strong believer of her lore, but I think that's something interesting to explore in Dani and Mel and all these characters that

have strong beliefs. Yeah. Yeah, and I think- When will you sacrifice those beliefs? When does your god not answer? I'm not convinced she gives up the faith so as like at a certain point you're gonna start screaming when it's that painful like just out of like a physiological you know just effect because i think that's the other thing right like that makes her not carly to have gone there and being condemned except you know it does say that she has a fear but to be like i'm gonna go down this way

to say i'm standing as you said she's standing by that cause, she believes in that cause. And I think that that is noble. But also, yeah, I also really like what you said of she has to put on this show of strength and how she executes Miri, because she has to regain that respect. And it very much is a mirror to Rob, right? And the way that he has to show strength. The Karstark. Yeah, with Karstark and then the biting off of the fingers and all and the Grey John, yes. So it's like, it's a great parallel to that. And against Ned being executed, right, as well. With Joffrey kind of an anti-parallel.

So. Yeah. Good work, us. We did it. Wow. Wow. Team. Team. Teamwork. So they're building a pyre. They're building a pyre, branches, logs, trunks.

They pile Drogo's, no, go away, Aliana. They pile Drogo's treasures on top of the pyre, his tent, his vests, his saddles, his harness, his whip, his orak, a mighty dragon bone bow. Ago means to add Dani's bride gifts to it, but she forbids it and says they're hers, and she means to keep them. Okay, that'll come back, so jot that one down, everyone. They lay brush and grass over these treasures. Jorah draws her aside and is like,

Princess, it's gonna warn her like he does. And she interrupts him and she says, Why do you call me that? You called my brother King. He's dead, I was his heir. What's his is mine now. Oh, big balls, Daenerys Targaryen, Daenerys B.B. Targ. Danny B. Targ,

Dany B. Targ. The balls are the eggs. Wow. The ball, wow. So three Bs then, three Bs. Yes. Three balls? Wait. Yes, oblongs.

Jorah is like, honestly, this is the smartest she's been on a book because he doesn't argue. He's like, oh, she means some business today. So he immediately gets on one knee, calls her his queen and says, his sword is hers and his heart, which never belonged to Viserys. He tells her. And then he begs her to let Cal Drogo go that no man will take her to the dash. Kelly. And if he's there, he'll keep her safe. She could come East with him to see the unseen wonders of the world and drink the

wine so that the gods see fit to serve them. He says, please Khaleesi, I know what you intend. Do not, do not. I must, Danny told him. She touched his face, fondly, sadly. You do not understand. He says that once he had loved his- yeah, he doesn't. He says once he loved his lady wife but he did not die with her. Yeah, cause she didn't want to be anywhere fucking near you. Yeah, she doesn't want to die with you, weirdo. The fuck? And she's not dead, she's living a great life without you, boo.

She's living her best life probably, or maybe not, I don't know, she probably has slaves. Well, maybe- who knows, I don't know what's happening to Linesse. We don't know what's happening to Linesse, but she's gotta be better off. He asks Dany, Don't make me stand aside while you burn on Drogo's pyre. She kisses his forehead and asks

if that's what he fears. She swears she will not die with Drogo. I just like this line. I swear it. She said, in the common She swears she will not die with Drogo. I just like this line. I swear it. She said, in the common tongue of the seven kingdoms that by rights were hers. Seeing that transition. Yes, the I want song has changed, right?

Like it used to just be family security, like what do I want? What do I want? But now here it is and she's like, the seven kingdoms which are mine they're mine they're mine very ambitious like but she sees it now she sees the bigger picture don't you see don't you see don't you see it's so good it's so good the It's so good. The third level of the platform is woven with thin branches, dry leaves and twigs.

Let me have here. They laid them north to south from ice to fire and piled them high with soft cushions and sleeping silks. The sun had begun to lower toward the west by the time they were done. Dani called the Dothraki around her. You were then a hundred were left. How many had Aegon started with? She wondered. It did not matter. Conquest on the brain, conquest on the brain.

It's time to conquer. It's time to conquer. Except maybe in five books. It's time to conquer. Maybe six books. I guess this doesn't hit the same I guess no one realizes I'm dancing along with Chloe's song. Just be like yes, Queen, let's go. They just think you're letting me be a fucking weirdo all the time. Don't worry, I'm here supporting you. No, I'm just dancing along to everything she's doing so you you know. We're in this together. Another, yeah, little conquest, little Aegon, like you see the wheels in her head are turning. She has big plans, big fucking plans, and I also really liked the line in this, she

laid them from north to south, from ice to fire. It makes it seem like every culture has like this kind of old phrase about ice and fire from north to south, from ice to fire, using ice and fire as directional, right? The north being ice, the south being fire. It really puts it like into these like building blocks of history, of lore, and of like sayings you would hear from olden times that have stuck around forever. It gives it kind of a sense of gravitas of importance. Yeah, and I don't know if it plays into that, but they also said they started out with laying the logs from east to west, from sunrise to sunset. Yeah, rises in the east. Yeah, that makes sense. That makes sense. So these are the directions like the very base directions, which I think is interesting

because like when you bust it all down to building blocks, you think of like, when you go all the way back to history, all the way back when the cavemen once were, you know, like they learned to do the most rudimentary base things of existence that we all do today now but now we have like smartphones. But like, you know, they're learning to count. They have one fruit, two fruit, or one rock, two rock, three rock, like busting it down to these very cardinal directions. Like at the very base of the universe, it's always been ice and fire and sunset and sunrise. And you have it even with like, you know, the Bran and Myrrah and Jojen. We've sworn you our faith by earth and water, bronze and iron, ice and fire, these oldest building

blocks of the world. And I love this passage from Davos 3 in ASOS just to throwback, throwback. The way the world is made, the truth is all around you, plain to behold. The night is dark and full of terrors, the day bright and beautiful and full of hope. One is black, the other white. There is ice and then there is fire. Hate and love, bitter and sweet, male and female, pain and pleasure, winter and summer, evil and good. She took a step toward him, death and life, everywhere opposites, everywhere the war. And I feel this, this is like such a great, I don't know, it's like a great riddle, right, to solve the riddle of life. Like Dani is a 14 year old child

bride burying her first husband tonight, or lighting him on fire, not even burying him obviously, but putting him to rest and also awakening like this very magical part of her family that's been gone for generations, right? For decades and decades and centuries. So she is about to use the building blocks of the universe, the oldest magic that's ingrained in the very soil beneath her feet and bring it all back. And I just think it's like such a, I don't know, there's something cool about it. There's something I like about it. Maybe this wasn't very poetic, but no, she's experiencing life in a day in a year. Like she's experienced more life than people

will experience in a lifetime just in this very book. And she says that multiple times throughout this chapter and we'll get to like some of those lines, but I think, no, you're right. There's something there with the lore and the north to south. And I like that you brought this quote in, even though the last line, everywhere the war makes me think like a little finger and like fight every battle inside your mind. Oh my God. God ruined it. But because here Melisandre is saying everywhere opposites death and life and that there is a polarity.

But when you lay everything down from north to south, ice to fire, right? When you lay everything down from east to west, you're linking day and night. You're creating that bridge between them. You're creating the bridge between ice and fire. Like what Jojen is saying, like, you know, you brought it in there, the faith, the bronze, it's all one. And that's, I think, what Daenerys is doing here in that moment. She's creating sort of something

where all of it is linked in the singular moment. It all is coming together, right? She's, it all is coming together, right? It's like a vortex or something where everything exists. On a side note though, I do wonder because of that from ice to fire and that she thinks of that, did this practice of the Dothraki, though many cultures in real life practice cremation and funeral pyres, but for the Dothraki in a world in which there are ice zombies, did it start with the others? It makes me think of the Iphic Queveron, right? Like they were kin to the children of the forest of Westeros, but they were in the dense forests of North Essos, and they were extinguished by the Imenese when they conquered a large

swath of territory directly south of Ib and they went into hiding and fled to other lands. Yeah, exactly. Quote unquote, allegedly. So allegedly they're still in the northern forests, which the Dothraki like shun those lands either out of fear or reverence for them, it said. Um, so it makes me think like this has happened everywhere, right? Because they actually, yeah, they left behind a settlement in a forest, which the Dothraki call Ves Laci or the City of Ghosts. And Corlys Velaryon went there, I believe. Yeah. And he wrote of carved trees, haunted grottoes and strange silences.

So like it's everywhere. It is everywhere. Like, yeah, Melisandre's right in that cheesy quote, everywhere the war. Like, they experienced it too. So I mean, it wouldn't be surprising if they experienced it as just a cultural translation. Yeah, I guess everywhere the war does exist in our hearts between doing good and evil. That's so true. What was it we were saying last week? Firmly?

Warmly, tightly? Warmly, tightly. Warmly, tightly everywhere. What was I gonna say? Did Coriolis like never visit the North? Like his own country? Did he not think, wow, these trees are carved very similarly to the weirwoods that we have

in Westeros? Probably not. Wow. He was busy, you know? Wow. Get to know your home, Corley. No, I'm joking. Oh my god.

So Daenerys declares that these people will be her colossar and the slaves in the crowd are free to take off their collars and go. If they stay, they stay then as brothers, sisters, husbands, and wives. But if they go, no one will harm them." She turns to her cause and gives to Jogo her silver-handled bride gift, announcing him as a co, as blood of her blood, and Jogo is confused. He accepts the whip hesitantly and tells her, He accepts the way hesitantly and tells her, uh, it would shame me though to be a blood rider to a woman. And she ignores him and then moves on to the next. She

thinks, if I look back I am lost. Next she gives Ago the dragon bone bow, double curved, shiny, black... the bones are black. Alright, taller than she and names him her blood rider as well. Ago accepts the bow but says he cannot say these words, only a man can lead a khalasar or name a co. Rikaro is named next, given the Arak. It's blade and hilt golden. Rikaro takes the Arak and names her Khaleesi, saying he will ride at her side to the mother mountains and to the crons of the Dosh Khaleen, but no more. A very diplomatic way of being like, thanks but no thanks. Dosh-Kaleen, but no more. A very diplomatic way of being like, mm, thanks, but no thanks. And finally- But her emails!

I know. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. Finally, she turns to Jorah, announcing him as the greatest of her nights. Okay. For now. You have no other ones, right? Like, the bar is the floor. The bar is the floor and he is stumbling over it. That's when I tell people like, yeah, I'm my parents. I'm my mother's favorite child, you know, or like, yeah, me too.

Favorite child. I'm also the least favorite. Yeah, every day, every day. Yeah. Announcing him as the greatest of her nights and and that she has no bridegift to give him, but swears one day he will have a longsword like none the world has ever seen. Dragon forged and made of Valyrian steel. She asks for his oath, and he kneels, rusting his sword, and vows to obey her whatever may

come. I shall hold you to that oath. I pray you never regret the giving of it Danny lifted him to his feet Stretching on her toes to reach his lips you she kissed the night gently and said you are the first of my Queen's Guard Is this how all I like Kingsguard did Tom and like kiss all of his Kingsguard on the lips, too Can you imagine I'm on the lips too. You know? Is this how it works? Can you imagine Robert kissing them on the lips by signing a piece of paper? Robert Baratheon kissing them? Actually,

yeah. Could see. That's him and Ned. He's like, why isn't Ned here? Depends on how much he had to drink that day, but yeah. So we talked a little bit about the symbolism of the whip up top from tech, uh, and I wanted to bring it back in with the bride gift symbolism, right? Earlier we're told that she is supposed to put the bride gifts into the fire as well, and the bride gifts, you know, they're really symbolic. They're gifts that she was given that traditionally they're not real gifts for her. They're like fake gifts, like they're gifts that are given to her to give to her husband.

They're like, here little lady, we're giving you a golf club because your husband probably loves golf and you just are a lady and you're just gonna sit there and be pretty because you're your husband's, you know, ass. Piece of ass. So, these gifts are already symbolically kind of fake in the beginning of this arc. They aren't gifts she can really use, gifts she's never allowed to touch, merely nods towards status and to increase status in the cow's eyes. But now she is taking those very gifts that were like kind of bullshit and

speak a lot of the gender inequity here in the Dothraki, and she's gifting them in full to her queensguard and saying by accepting this gift, like, okay, so you're accepting my gift, but you are not accepting the position, right? And it was a gift that she's giving to them. But they each reject her and accept each of these gifts that originally they told her should be going away. So it's like her bucking tradition in a lot of senses. Yeah. And understanding where loyalties lie.

But, and it's not like a one-one, but also something about this gives Last Supper vibes, right? Like she, I mean everything about this is Jesus, like she's so messy on it. She puts the messy and messy on it. Aww. But like she's messy. The Lionel Messy in the- no I'm joking. Yeah. No, literally though, it is messy. Lionel Messy.

But so, you know, she knows that she's going off quote unquote to her death and her rebirth. Just like Jesus kind of knew what was coming for him. Like he's like, look, after this- we're having this Passover, my 12 disciples, my homies, you know, and one of you is gonna betray me. And he like, like, Judas, it's you, bro. Uh, I tell you this very night before the rooster crows, you'll deny me three times. Acknowledging, like, I know this will happen. Like, I still love you and forgive you with that in mind. I know this will happen, like I still love you and forgive you with that in mind, I know this will happen." And Dani is kind of almost citing like, like she knew in giving them these gifts, she knew in her heart probably they weren't going to follow her.

But she knows something else bigger, she knows that she's going to her death to be reborn potentially with dragons. And if it doesn't work, then she won't have to worry about what comes next, because she'll be dead. But if it does work, she can come back with with these dragons and they're gonna kneel then. So like, she knows they will follow her and love her still. She gave them the chance, and in a way they like betray her, but they worship her after. So I find that really a fun, somewhat tangential parallel here. And just that symbolism of those gifts that she gives them like, are you accepting me if you accept these bride gifts which were gifts to me?

Like, are you going to accept that tradition or are we going to break that tradition? Yeah. And create our own. Yeah, I love your breakdown of how she reclaims those. She's like, these are mine. Same as like what she does with Viserys's birthright, right? She says, this is mine. I'm queen now. I'm Khaleesi. And I really like your, how you tied it to Peter's three denials, because they do. But it's so satisfying, like, and you can't be mad at them, you know, like, they do it. They're like, oh, shit. Oh, shit, this is the best stallion ever. She's riding. Oh, I get it. They're like, oh shit. Oh shit. This is the best stallion ever. She's riding

Oh, I get it. They're all ride or die anyways, um I guess Jor is gonna die for her too, probably Yeah, I wonder if George is gardening since then because long claw is a bastard sword, right? So it's bigger than a long sword, but she promises him a long sword. So I'm curious, like, a spell-forged Valyrian steel dragon metal can only come from her dragons, right? So I do think we still will maybe see forging new Valyrian steel swords. So I'd be curious if he gets a new one. Yeah, I think- Especially with Gendry on the case.

They probably are gonna reconcile her and Jorah in some weird way, but part of me is like when she promises him a sword, is it like playing with it of, you will have a sword for me because I'm gonna execute you. No. Yeah, part of me wonders that. A non-zero amount. I don't think so. I think he's gonna get his stupid redemption.

By getting greyscale, as you said last time, and Sam cutting it all off. Yeah, exactly. Oh god. Yeah. We'll see what George chooses to adapt. Oh my god. Daenerys enters her tent, feeling the colostar's eyes on her. She thinks they must think her mad.

She thinks maybe she is mad. She'll know soon enough. Her bath is scalding hot, but it makes her feel clean. Jigui had scented it with oils they had found at the market, and Doria washed and combed out her hair. They help her from the water, fanning her dry and brushing her hair out. They sent her with spice flour and cinnamon. And she sends them away to prepare Drogo for his ride into the nightlands. Just made me think of Exodus. God told Moses to use cinnamon as one of the spices in the anointing oil for the tabernacle and for the garments of the high priest. So we've got a lot of anointing going on here.

Drogo's being prepared for his passage and Dani's kind of the high priest preparing him. Yeah. It's very ritualistic, you know, very symbolic. Yeah, there's a lot of anointing going on here. I love how it like plays both. Like, obviously, we're using this to make everything burn better. But also, as you said, there's a little religious aspect too. And later on, Daenerys will like think to herself about how this is a wedding as well. And it's true, because I think you see

here that mirroring of this ritual of how her handmaids are preparing her with the way they did for the wedding night and again, how they emphasize where all the perfumes are dabbed. But we see the development that Daenerys has gone through this whole book. Now she's an assured girl child bride widow. Add it to the titles, right? Add it to the titles. Of the Seven Kingdoms child bride widow. God. I do think there's a very beautiful ritualistic act of devotion as well here,

right? In preparing him for the nightlands. You could just burn the guy, right? And just say well There's my husband and now he's dead. I think of a lot of the pyres We've seen Targaryens burn on right Jaehaerys. Jaehaerys is death or Aenys is death, right Aenys is death is one in fire and blood that's kind of highlighted on when they burn his body and how sad it is and like just just the different like pyres and the bits of devotion of the dragon lighting the pyre and ba ba

da ba. It's something very important in Targaryen culture and Valyrian culture and also a similarity that it's important with the Dothraki that they do it under the open sky that he rides off the nightlands and that he goes and so like not just that but then like Grief and losing someone and this being the last thing you can do for them right that they could not do for themselves that they are Sent to their life the end of their life their next life Whatever the fuck you believe in in these cultures like that not only are they sent off in the best way They are sent off as they once were that somebody put the love and devotion and care. That Daenerys washes his body.

She brushes and oils his hair. She makes him look like he had once looked in battle, right? She thinks his hair had never been cut. How many men could die with their hair uncut? She takes every loving moment to reflect on the person he was, the things that he loved, and how he should go to his death, how he should be seen and gone into the nightlands, the respect that he deserves on his person, and there's this very like sad and beautiful back-and-forth passage of her inhaling his scent and it's grass, warm earth, smoke, semen, horses. She begs for forgiveness from him in her mind and she thinks, I paid the price, my star,

but it was too high, too high. She braids his hair, she puts silver rings into his mustache, she hangs bells in his hair, gold, silver, bronze, one by one, bells so his enemy would hear him coming and grow weak with fear, she thinks. She puts him in his horsehair leggings and boots, a silver and gold medallion belt on his waist, his favorite painted vest, and I thought that there was definitely some connection with John Connington that he comes back and writes very similarly for John Connington with the I paid the price my star but it was too high, too high,

tried to reach a star, overreached and fell. And also the bells, right? The bells very much come back with John Connington at the Battle of the Bells and the Ringing of the Bells, but the Ringing of the Bells do seem to haunt Daenerys here a little bit in what they mean and that they mean the coming of an enemy. And they seem significant as she continues to put bells with her own culture.

She kind of merged like in CK3, a Game of Thrones, you can merge cultures and reform cultures. And that's like what Daenerys is doing, right? She's adapting parts of the Dothraki culture and what she learned from Khal Drogo and what she saw Khal Drogo do into her own culture and her already kind of hodgepodge of Free Cities cultures, Westerosi culture as she's been told by her brother and her family's culture, right? The Targaryen, Valyrian culture and different things that she knows of that lore from her childhood and from being kind of adjacent in the Free Cities to people that

might be able to tell her of her own history, right? So she's actually taken a history or two that she was told is hers, whether she believes it or not, or whether she's been able to live and understand that. But now she's taking these other cultures and blending them into herself. And I think that's so fantastic. I think, yeah, I think that's something that's really cool about Daenerys' storyline. And it's something that I, you know, she's like a third culture kid, I get it. But also I like what you're saying of the way that she gives all of this to Drogo. It also is kind of similar to that love and care she was giving his body last chapter, right?

On their final night together, so sad. But also- Yeah, love and care. You know, you're emphasizing the bells here with the hair, but also John Connington's storyline. And it makes me think of, you were talking a lot about Edgar Allan Poe last chapter. I kind of wonder if there's an aspect we'll see of Edgar Allan Poe's famous poem,

The Bells, of which the most iconic line is, the bells, bells, bells, bells, bells, bells, bells. And yeah, so I kind of wonder if you'll see a little of that one day. Curious, I'm curious about it. I'm curious. Oh my god. So for herself, Daenerys wears loose sand silk trousers and that's how you know, you

know, that we're really talking about girl boss leaders here. She's wearing a pantsuit sandals that lace up her legs and the painted vest oh a painted vest match drogo's that's so sweet um the sun sets as drogo is carried to his pyre by ago and joe go dan a walks between them and commands the oil be brought forward soaking through through all the kindling. Next she commands her handmaids bring her eggs. Something in her voice made them run. Jorah tells her that she should keep the eggs and just sell them and you can be wealthy all of your days and she tells him they were not given to her to sell, which like, yes and no.

I do think Illyrio gave it to her to sell, but fate did not give it to her to sell. Yeah, because, you know, you could just sell them and or you could make lemonade, you know, plant the lemon tree- wait, no, that doesn't work. All I'm saying is or you could hatch dragons and then you could have unlimited money. That's a cheat code right there. Yeah, she climbs the pyre and places the black egg beside Drogo's heart under his arm, the green beside his head, his braid coiled around it, and finally the cream and gold between his legs. She kisses him for the last time and tastes the sweetness of oil on his lips. Find that fascinating. Like, I think there's an interesting placement going on there. The black egg being beside Drogo's heart, and Drogo having the heart of a warrior in

a way, and Drogon being the heart of the warrior. Drogon's definitely the fury. And then the green beside his head, and Regal, named for Rago and Rhaegar, and being like... You know, Drogo, there was so much we couldn't know about him that she never got to know about him, but there's also a lot she did get to know about him that others didn't, right? Like she got to know him very intimately and how he worked and like the wheels turning and the brain and the mind and Rhaegar being so connected with like the, the, you know, the learning pursuits. Intellectualism, yes. Yes, intellectualism, yep, so by the brain. And then the cream and gold, Viserion, right? Kind of named for Viseris in a way, by the cock. I think that's interesting.

I was kind of wondering about that. But it is like, it's so Freudian in some aspects, and like, such a connection for Targaryen, like incest and ownership and like sexuality and Dany reclaiming her own sexuality from someone who like policed her sexuality in a way. Yeah. And also trafficked her sexuality in a way. So like she was sold for that, you know, zone, that erogenous zone there. Like she was sold for hers and now she's almost reclaiming it and having that dragon be born of the loin. Kind of interesting. Something going on there.

Something going on there. It's fun. Interesting stuff. Mirri Mazdor watches her and calls her mad, and Dani asks if it's so far from madness to wisdom, and commands Jorah to bind her to the pyre. I do think that that is a line that is, it's important to the series, right? Because I don't think it is.

I don't think it's that far from madness to wisdom. Like some of the things that people will call greatness, it's just that, like, it worked, right? But other people would say that this was mad, this was a crazy idea, but it's being willing to do something that is kind of out there. And I also, I will say I don't think that Targaryen madness is real. I don't think it has anything to do with being Targaryen besides, you know, the dragon visions part which many people have. But the things that end up getting attributed to Targaryen madness to an extent aren't things that have to necessarily do.

With seeing visions or hallucinations, and we've said it before, I think that a lot of the story is painting that madness can come to anyone in a place of power. It is power that causes people to maybe do things, like, I don't know, Ramsey's fucking mad, you know? And when it comes to what Daenerys is doing here, is it so far from wisdom to madness? Is it so far from madness to greatness? It's only madness if it doesn't fucking work, you know? And it's only called madness if people don't see you as worthy because of whatever, you know? Like how dare you think above your station? How dare you think you can be better than what we tell you that you are? And you know, executing

Mary might be cruel in method, whether or not would you consider what she did as right. But I don't think it's any more mad than having a singer killed and then torn into soup because he was friends with some woman you were into. It's not any more mad than beheading a man for insubordination in your penal colony. It's not any more mad than drowning an entire family or killing a dozen men at dinner. Like, people don't call those things mad. It is power that drives the madness,

and it is the fact that you are able to perform those acts and that you have the power. When you have that power over an assembly of people, let alone a nation of people, these acts become madness. Like, if you can enact those acts, that is madness. That is madness. Madness is like firebombing a community. Like, it's power that like then you reduce people to a number when you're able to reduce those people to a number. That's also madness Yeah, that's true. That's true. Like I think I Don't think the nearest is you know any more mad than any of the rest of us

You know, like there are moments that can make all of us feel a little mad and maybe not in a firebombing kind of way But like that the capacity for that is like it lives in all of us to an extent. Empowers what can enable it. Yeah. Or even like, I don't know here. Sometimes it's not that right? Like, I mean, did people think the Wright brothers were a little mad? Probably. And then they fucking flew. Wow. What? Wow. Those boys are so inspirational though. I mean, inspirational. I'm just saying. Anyways, Jorah begs Daenerys no and she tells him that you swore to obey me, whatever may come. Then she pours the oil. Literally, like, just moments ago. Like, this just happened.

Yeah, right? She pours the oil all over Mirri herself, and then thanks Mirri for the lessons that Mirri taught her. And then Mirri responds, you won't hear her scream. And Dany says, she will. And then she goes, But it is not your screams I want. Only your life.

I remember what you told me. only death can pay for life. Oh, shit. I know. Miri's like, oh fuck, what have I done? Fast learner shit. Yeah. I mean, she does basically give a version at some point of like, you know, but a better version

of whatever the show gave Sansa to say about learning and being a girl. Anyways, she's anointing Mirri here, right? We were talking about that. And I really love that essentially it is a not just only death can pay for life in terms of Mirri and these other people on the funeral pyre. It's a very much a kill the girl and let the woman be born, right? Because Daenerys, of course, steps into the pyre. And in regards to the way that we've seen Daenerys sort of picking up these different lessons, the way that she administers like, Meeri's execution and the punishment that she gives to Meeri, I think is very in line with what she has learned. Rulership looks like from Drogo,

right? This looks very similar to the way that Drogo provides capital punishment or gives capital punishment to the wine cellar and to Viserys in terms of, okay, well, you have done this thing to cross me, or you've done this thing against me, and therefore, we will tie you and make you run past behind the horses in a very painful way, or here, I shall put a golden crown upon you. It's so nice what a nice guy. Listen. That's a lot of gold.

I mean. We gave it a heavy metal backing. Oh wait no that was his speech um but yeah. Yeah where he must do this thing for Daenerys. Moon of his life. Moon of life. Daenerys moon of life. Yeah I Moon of life. Daenerys, moon of life. Yeah, I also love that like, this is the reveal that clearly

she knows what she's doing a little bit more than she let on, obviously, like, yeah, and the panic and the grief in the last two chapters, like her whole entire life was turned upside down. But today she woke up and it was like the ash had cleared, the dust had cleared, and she gets it. She sees it clearly now. And the moment that Mirri Mazdur doesn't realize it's not just that she's like dying from being sentenced to execution, she's dying from being sentenced to blood sacrifice to wake the dragon. I love that.

I love it. She starts to realize, wait, maybe I don't actually know how things work. Yup. realize wait maybe I don't actually know how things work. Yep. Dani sees her fear in her eyes as she steps away from Mirri Mazador and she thinks kind of on the Dothraki lore that when a horse lord dies his horse dies too so he can ride into the nightlands. They burn the bodies beneath the open sky so the cowl can ride his fiery steed amongst the stars. She thinks the more fiercely the man burned in life, the brighter his star will shine in the darkness. And then, lo and behold, born beneath the bleeding star, the

comet appears. Jogo spots it first, burning red in the sky, and Dani takes this as a strong sign, and takes the torch from Aggo and thrusts it into the logs. It ignites, and she steps backwards. Mirri begins to sing in her ululating voice, and the flames race up the platform, making the air shimmer with heat. Her song grows shriller and Mirri gasps and begins to wail full on, agony, wail, and the flames reach Dany and Drogo, wrapping itself around him. Dany finds herself holding her breath,

wanting to go to Drogo like Jorah feared and to take him one last time, the fire melting their flesh until they're one forever. Honestly, if I saw a fucking red comet in the sky, I'd be like, yeah, that's it. That's the sign. I too would take that as a very good, strong sign. Honestly, especially because it just fucking stays there for a while, right? Yeah. It stays there into the next book. And it does feel important that like, she is the first POV chapter that sees it. That's true, yeah.

It's in Agat, it's announced in her chapter, and then Clash of Kings, rightfully so, spends the whole book discussing who's the correct king, and everybody thinks it's about them, but we already saw who the correct queen is. Yeah, and George has pointed out, we've said this before, if he ever gives up on the story, he's like, the comet is there. Well, I also really love the language here about, you know, there's a moment where Daenerys knows that the time isn't right yet. And I've always looked at that as her knowing that she meant to hatch the dragons and knowing like as her not being mad because there was a method to all of it.

Maybe it's like the whole method to their madness thing, whatever. Maybe we're playing with that. But she knew that there was timing involved and that if she did it wrong, she would be burnt up. She knew that there was a moment, like, because if she goes too early and she thinks about it, she's like, I could run to him and we could just both be dead together. So I thought that was really interesting. And then this entire rite, it's playing kind of on that convention of, or drawing inspiration also on like Sati or Soti, depending on how you pronounce it that that old Hindu practice where a wife would self-immolate upon the husband's funeral pyre and die with him so very interesting stuff hmm I like I like that you pulled that in from the Hindu practice but I do

think there's a I also I'm like I'm very interested in that concept of Egan the fifth clearly knew and had discovered and understood like how to make it happen right yeah take the direct yeah like you can take the direct line from this to summer hall of understanding that they were maybe gonna sacrifice baby Rhaegar and create dragons again right like that there was blood sacrifice and that he understood that a certain amount of heat from wildfire could potentially light up enough. Ares understood a certain amount of heat could potentially bring dragons back. Maybe not with eggs, but he understood there was something about wildfire simulated dragon

fire that he needed to explore. Dani inherently understands it, and maybe this comes back to some of what we were talking about with Alia of the Knife and Dune, and having your history and your family in your veins haunting you and every memory downloaded. I don't think Daenerys just has every memory from her family, but maybe there is something magical of this connection that she is understanding something that many, many generations of her family seem to have understood. Aegon V isn't it, right? Many other Targaryens did some things thinking they were gonna reawaken the dragons post-dragon. And at the very beginning, clearly, people understood the dragons

and understood the lore of waking them and the lore of riding them and the lore of claiming them. Like this is all history that's so ingrained in the Targaryens generations back. It's really interesting that like, something is speaking to her. Something is speaking to her about it. Yeah. And everyone thinks, you know, okay, we'll get there. I don't know why they would think they

would get there with bonfire, but Daenerys understands it's these basic, it's these primal elements. It's this pain. It's this, there's a loss. This is a sacrifice. And we're told that, right? Because the pyre deepens, the heat beats at the air with great red wings. We're told that, right? Because the pyre deepens, the heat beats at the air with great red wings. And Dani stands her ground. She is the blood of the dragon and the fire is within her. And we have this line of, she had sensed the truth of it long ago, Dani thought, as she took a step closer to the conflagration. But the brassiere had not been hot enough. So there's an element of the, it has to be hot enough. There's timing. I also think…

what an interesting use of the word conflagration. Oh yeah, it stands the fuck out. I'm like weird, fun, I guess, jazzy. She thinks the flames look like the women who danced at her wedding and thinks that this is a wedding too. Miriamau's door had fallen silent. Another step forward and Dany can feel the heat on the soles of her feet through the sandals. The sweat runs down her thighs, her breasts, her cheeks. The flames are beautiful and she sees lovely things within them. Each one a sorcerer robed in yellow and orange and scarlet swirling long smoky cloaks. She saw crimson fire lions and great yellow serpents and unicorns made of pale blue flame. She saw fish and foxes and monsters, wolves and bright birds and flowering trees, each more beautiful than the last.

She saw a horse, a great gray stallion limbed in smoke, Its flowing mane, a nimbus of blue flame. Yes, my love, my sun and stars, yes, mount now, ride now." I love that, especially- Bluecivr? Oh my god. Bluecivr? Especially compared to like a Dance with Dragons when she mounts Drogon, I think this is fun to look at in comparison, The mount now, ride now.

And I haven't given it too much thought, but I do wonder if she's seeing things in the fire. You know, interpreting visions, especially a sorcerer robed in yellow and orange and scarlet seems like R'hllor robes. Swirling long smoky cloaks, maybe seeing the house of the undying even. Crimson fire lions, great yellow serpents, unicorns, right, like fish and foxes and monsters, wolves and bright birds, flowering trees, Westeros, great houses, her vision of conquering them maybe, and the great grey stallion, right, and smoke, the pale horse, ridden by death, or the otherworld, right, the Celtic Norse otherworld, carrying souls between worlds.

Yeah, I was kind of wondering the same thing, if she's seeing visions here too, but like a better, cooler version of what the R'hllor sorcerers or anyone who knows how to gaze into the fire see, like, especially because of the Crimson Firelines. I'm like, House Lannister? But I was trying to figure out if maybe they are the other things like sigils or not, because like fish could be tall. I don't know. But then I was like, but the only other unicorns I know are like house brachs and those are purple, but I guess purple is not that different from blue. I don't know. Whatever.

Well, you only have the colors of the fire at the time too, you know? So like everything is etched. Like I see it, like you're seeing visions. Cause they don't have powders like you. Me and Melisandre. Everything is like etched in flame, right? So it's like your line work is all flame. Like you're seeing things etched in flame, right? So it's like your line work is all flame. Like you're seeing things etched in flame.

So it's gotta be done in shades of flame. The blue, the orange, the yellow, the red. So also I think we've kind of really learned that like it's what you interpret. It's what you see, right? Like you're divining in the flames you're seeing. And so sometimes you might see what you want to see, right? Like the gray girl dying on a horse. Yeah, exactly. We're the ones seeing what you want to see, right? Like the great girl dying on a horse.

Yeah. We're the ones seeing what we want to see in the fire. Daenerys is just like vibes. Yeah, I mean, she's just seeing things and maybe not interpreting it. We're the ones interpreting which is kind of fun. That's fun. That's cool. But I never thought of it that way. Yeah. On first reads like this might be the first time that I'm like, wait a second, like what is she seeing? Now I'm gonna pay a lot of attention to what she sees in flames. Yeah. There might be something, especially, and I like that it's kind of a mirror

too of the shadows dancing, right? As opposed to the shadows dancing in the tent. Now it's the flames. Now it's the flames dancing. Yeah. Cause they're open. They're out in the open. There's nothing enclosing them. So there are no shadows. Her vest began to smolder and she lets it all fall down, bursting into flame. She bears her brass to the fire, and for an instant she sees Drogo mounted on his smoking stallion,

a flaming whip in hand cracking at the pyre. She hears a crack and the platform collapses in on itself. She's showered with ash and cinders and a chunk of curved rock, pale and veined with gold broken smoking and it crashes and rolls to her feet. The roaring filled the world, yet dimly through the firefall, Dani heard women shriek and children cry out in wonder.

Only death can pay for life. A second crack comes. The smoke stirs. Screams of horses and Dothraki. Jorah is cursing and calling her name. Then we have this passage. No! She wanted to shout to him.

No! My good knight, do not fear for me. The fire is mine. I am Daenerys Stormborn, daughter of dragons, bride of dragons, mother of dragons. Don't you see? Don't you see? With a belch of flame and smoke that reached 30 feet into the sky, the pyre collapsed and came down around her. Unafraid, Dany stepped forward into the firestorm, calling to her children. The third crack was as loud and

sharp as the breaking of the world." So good. Just finger lines. Each crack is the eggs but like it's the crack of the pyre and it's the crack. So good. Yeah, and each of them gets gets louder. I love also the third crack. I love that it's the loudest of them and it's described as like a breaking of the world language. It's very much this language of cracking of a celestial being like again, the moon, moon is egg, Khaleesi, that the ritual starts when the sun is still in the sky, but the first star appears.

And we were told last chapter there was no really moon in the sky and there wasn't isn't one here either because the moon is here on earth and she's daughter of dragons bride of dragons mother of dragons again it reminds me a little bit of that language from bitter blooms of someone being all of one thing but it also makes her feel very very goddess-like right with um being all three of those faces all uh faces being all three of those faces, all faces as well as phases of the moon, and playing with that language of temporality, especially earlier when she goes, I see the children, women, the wrinkled faces of the aged, rude. I was a child yesterday. Today I am a woman. Tomorrow I will be old. To each of you I say, give me your hands and your hearts and there will always be a place for you." And it makes Daenerys almost sound kind of, it feels mythical, right? It feels like the Sphinx's riddle in Oedipus Rex of what walks on four legs in the morning, two legs in the afternoon, and three legs in the evening. And that is man. But here we're having Daenerys play with those conventions of time. She feels very infinite, right, with all of this as everything converges

to bring the birth of dragons once more. Mm, that's great. That's really great. And like, I love, yeah, I love that language of also like, tomorrow I will be old. I love that so much. Like, Dani is just living lifetimes here. She has just become like, ten people in the last two chapters. Yeah. Well, just like how, you know, Aria's tied a little with the moon and having the different faces in terms of she's literally face changing. Picade.

That's Daenerys. Yeah, that's Daenerys as well, right? She is all of these all at once. She has to, she shows a different face to all these people. And again, she's both child, woman, widow, tied to old like crone, crone of the dashkalin at once. LS. The Madonna, the virgin, all of it. JG. And the old woman, and the crone. Don't forget, she old now too, denarius. You're old now. LS. She's just like me, we're so old. JG. Yeah, child bride, old.

Being 14. But that is her, like she is like, she's impossible in a way, right? Like she has all of these contradictions rolled into this petite Valyrian little chicky. She's the riddle and the paradox. Yeah, she has all of these things. She's the Sphinx, she's the riddle and the paradox. Yeah. She has all of these things. She's the Sphinx. She's the riddle and the riddler. I'm every woman. It's all in me. That should be on the playlist, though. I know I strongly, I do think about that sometimes with that.

Yeah. Um. So when the fire ends, Jorah finds her amidst the ash, naked, covered in soot, her hair crisped away and unburnt. And before we go into this last passage, I think it's great the way this is paralleled to Rob's King in the North scene. Oh yeah.

It's very different. It is kind of inverse to that, right? Where this is very intimate. There are very few people left from the Kallasar. There's what, like 20 people there? Yeah. Everyone's glad because they're like, this bitch crazy.

Everyone's gone. They're like, she's going into the fire more. But everybody that's going to stay is about to be like so loyal. Obviously, she just birthed dragons. Like once you see a miracle, how could you not be loyal to that? Right. Like she literally is a miracle is happening here. This is a huge is happening here. This is a huge miracle.

So it's great that this is like an intimate and even though it's a huge funeral funeral pyre and like it's a fiery scene and it is loud, it's almost more intimate, smaller and softer than Rob's, which is a big spectacle of, you know, the Northmen, great counsel they're holding. And everyone turns into a king in the North and they council they're holding, and everyone turns into king in the North and they're thrusting their swords. The actual act of birthing the dragons

is what inspires the loyalty here. So it's very cool to see the different direction in even just the noise between the two. Well, it's also like it's silent because at the same time, everyone who watched her do this is probably like, what the fuck just happened? She's dead. And so anyone who is still there, like, first of all, there's already few people left, right?

And then when she walks into the pyre, who's going to actually stay, right? To wait for a fire that big to burn out, because that's going to take a long time. So anyone who's left there has been there for hours just in silence and is probably like, well, there she's gone now, right? And then maybe start slowly seeing a figure emerge into like, uh, did her just like burned body stay upright? And it takes such devotion or just awe of like, what the fuck just happened to have stayed there the whole time to watch the fires burn out and See what we see the show did a really good job with that of like Waiting to see what happened right like that when the dust clears and all the sudden they go to her and there she is

It's dragons. Yeah. Ugh. Well, it's time to end a Game of Thrones the way that it should be ended with the last passage. The cream and gold dragon was suckling at her left breast, the green and bronze at the right, her arms cradled them close. The black and scarlet beast was draped

across her shoulders, its long, sinuous neck coiled under her chin. When it saw Jorah, it raised its head and looked at him with eyes as red as coals. Wordless, the knight fell to his knees. The men of her caste came up behind him. Jogo was the first to lay his arach at her feet. Blood of my blood. He murmured, pushing his face to the smoking earth. Blood of my blood. She heard Ago echo. Blood of my blood!

Rekarosharid. And after them came her handmaids, and then the others, all the Dothraki, men and women and children, and Dany had only to look at their eyes to know that they were hearse now, today, tomorrow and forever. Hearse as they had never been Drogo's. As Daenerys Targaryen rose to her feet, her black hissed, pale smoke venting from its mouth and nostrils. The other two pulled

away from her breasts and added their voices to the call, translucent wings unfolding and stirring the air. And for the first time in hundreds of years, the night came alive with the music of dragons. Wow. You good, Aliana? Are you affected right now? Are you feeling affected? Oh, yeah, I'm like, I'm trying to be like, wow, the music of dragons. And I was like, wow, I did a really good bad job of capturing what that would sound like.

Um, I was just trying to make it. You can't see this, but I'm flapping my wings. It's just, I don't know. Well, it goes together with what you were saying, right? It's such a quiet, intimate scene. And then for it to like focus in on the tiny, tiny, the music of dragons and. What a chapter ending, you know, what a book close. Again, George put his whole Girmussi into this chapter. It's-

Where do we go from here, you know? What's gonna happen next? That's my analysis. So good. Yeah, I love- look, we've talked about the Jesus of it all. We get the Jesus of it all. In the words of Lord, she's kind of like a prettier Jesus. We get that.

I also think there's a lot from, I mean, there's the big fantasy trope, right? The rebirth of magic, or the birth of magic, of magic coming back into the world, magic having been dead, magic having been gone, the birth of dragons. Discworld is a classic. If you haven't Discworld, it's a lot. If you're starting, I mean there are like 50 books. You don't have to read all of them. They're great though. They're literally incredible books, so I mean I recommend looking up a couple orders and seeing what you like, but Sorcery is one I really love with old, wild magic coming back that had been dead and gone, and they also have a little bit of a plot of like, oh, but

there's a reason why the wizards gave this magic up in the first place, and so you start off with that birth of old magic coming back, but then you get to live out why it was gone in the first place and understanding why it died. And I think there's a little bit of that at play with George and magic in this story, right? Of the story being the journey to understanding why it was gone and understanding the balance of the force, the balance of magic in the world. And there's also guards guards where the Draco Nobilees,

the dragons, are extinct until they're not. And it kind of does a little bit more of that exploration of why they were maybe extinct and why they can come back out of hiding now. And Earthsea has a lot of this, so read Earthsea if you haven't. Everyone at home listening, read Earthsea. Thank you. Good. It's also like Spyro the Year of the Dragon, but I'm not going to get into that because I don't have time to talk about Spyro the Year of the Dragon right now. I'm just going to keep glossing over that, but real Spyro players at home, real Spyro heads, you get me. I was thinking a little bit of some of the Cthulhuos too with the Necronomicon. There's this great bit in this of,

Nor is it to be thought that man is either the oldest or the last of earth's masters, or that the common bulk of life and substance walks alone. The old ones were, the old ones are, and the old ones shall be. Man rules now where they ruled once. They shall soon rule where man rules now. After summer is winter, after winter summer, they wait patient and potent for here shall they reign again." I really love that thinking about the dragons, right? The cyclical nature of now the dragons are back again. Where once the dragons ruled and what the new age of dragons might mean for the story. Well, it means they need time to grow. But with George's time machine

and a little help from the power of Anne and editing, these dragons could get very big and rule once more. Mm. Mm-hmm. They could be. With a five-year gap. Wait, what? Ah, and finally I want to come back, bring it all back to the greatest piece of fiction with a five-year gap. Wait, what? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHA HAHAHA HAHAHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA best zine they ever put out, the Bible. You have this concept of Mary of immaculate conception, right? Like of conceiving, being conceived without original sin. So she then remains sinless her whole life. And you know, the idea of Danny just had like a crazy like TLC, like I didn't know I was pregnant with dragons moment. Okay, like She's like toilet baby. Yeah, but then she did like she didn't realize that this whole time She was pregnant with dragons, but now she realizes that she is so I think that's really fun

Like toilet baby like Tiffany from righteous gemstones, you know, yeah Those eggs just came on out out of nowhere. She didn't even know but That great idea of like she is both Jesus and Mary right like she is coming out of the fire washed anew reborn as the virgin mother the mother of dragons giving birth to something else with no father giving birth of her own like three ribs plucked out of her sides and here are her dragons behold a virgin will be with child and bear a son and she will

call his name Immanuel." Like that is what Dani has done on her own with no help of anyone else. LWI? Literally no one helped her. I mean, I guess they built the pyre, but everyone was like, what if you just didn't do this? And she's like, no. I'm gonna do it. Yeah. I mean, Drogo was the help. She traded life for life. She traded blood for blood. Yeah, it was all kind of laying that path there towards all that and she... You were talking about rebirth and I do think it's important that the show didn't do it because, you know, they wanted to keep the hair and whatever, but she comes out of it hairless, right? Like a babe. Like a wee bab. But at the same time is, as you said, 14, the age that some people speculate that Mary was when she gave birth to Jesus,

but also might not have been. Allegedly. Allegedly according to some, but she might have been older. Mm-hmm. Allegedly. Allegedly, according to some, but she might have been older. Um, so very... it's good. It's good. And then, I don't know, I just love the also, you know, they were hers now, today and tomorrow and forever. Just like the, again, that language of her being, talking about what she was yesterday, today and tomorrow. That, again, feeling of the infinite. Yeah, like the abyss and the void, she embraced it. You know, she stepped into it and she

became it. Wow. It came out with dragons. It's like when Sailor Moon bus jumps in and comes out with baby Hotaru. It's literally the same. It's kind of the same. I'm not saying it's not. I'm saying, yeah, I guess it is kind of the same. It's the same. The same. The same, the same.

Like you put coins in, you got dragons out. Incredible. Yeah. Incredible. What a fucking arc. Agat, so good. This is the penultimate Agat POV. Tyrion as Agat, that's good. We do get to go back to agot with Tyrion. Yeah.

And then we finished agot forever. But we finished agot after that. Yeah. Tyrion's agots are good. But yeah, but then we'll eventually be done with all of it. Tyrion's agots are good, but they're not as good as Daenerys's. As Daenerys's. Yeah, I think only Neds's is as good, maybe. Yeah, Neds is very tight. I don't know, yeah. Because it's his whole storyline, you know?

It's the entirety of Ned's storyline in one book, so yeah. That's why. Wow, what an arc. What a time. I very much enjoyed a Game of Thrones with you all. Thanks for listening, friends. We'll be back. We will not be back next week.

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And forever. Don't you see? Don't you see? It's the same. It's chilling, dude. It's so chilling. These are like so chilling across all the chapters. I love it. I love it. It's kind of funny. I love Egot.

It is chilling, but it's not chilling because it's hot. Oh my god. No, no, I do think that's kind of what he was going for a little, you know? Like that kind of tension between chilling and the heat of the text. I guess that should have gone in the episode. That was an analysis. Oh well. Bye!

We'll be back, goodbye.