Girls Gone Canon Cast - ASOIAF Episode 270 — ADWD Daenerys VIII
Episode Date: November 14, 2025Daenerys did not ate in this episode, just like we did not ate last week but you do get some life lessons out of this one. ---- Eliana's reddit account: https://www.reddit.com/user/glass_table_girl ...Eliana's blog: https://themanyfacedblog.wordpress.com/ Chloe's twitter: https://twitter.com/liesandarbor Chloe's blog: liesandarborgold.com Intro by Anton Langhage
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Hello, and welcome to Girls Gone
Canon reads A Song of Ice and Fire, episode 270, Denaries 8 in A Dance with Dragons.
I'm one of your hosts, Chloe.
And I'm another one of your hosts, Eliana.
You might be wondering what happened to us last week.
And the way that perhaps we're all wondering what happened to Denaries, you know, and not us, because we know.
We have chapter 10.
But many of the other people there and Marine don't know.
Maybe you're like them.
You're like, where'd they go?
That sure was close to something.
And I love that about you, Eliana.
Thanks.
I really love that.
Yeah, life happened to us, dude.
It was nuts.
It actually was not.
It was nuts.
It was crazy.
I'm sorry, y'all.
I thought I was going to be able to put out of.
a minisode, but no, life happened. But I have a different thing about life that I'm going
to tell all of you, and I'm going to impart you with some wisdom. Oh, shit. So part of the
things that happened for life, you know, I really hope, I hope my friend never listens to this
episode. She has listened to some of our earlier ones in the past, though, and I think we're like
way better. We're a different five. Thankfully, none of our friends listen to our podcast, so.
I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. And also a lot, actually a lot of our
friends do listen but many of the other people in my other parts of my life do not and yeah she
listened to the beginning ones but she didn't keep up thankfully yeah what does that say so yeah
she's been having a lot of issues and one of them involves a man but it's not really about him
and it's it's like other things that compounded and the man just is a symptom of it but like she's
like kind of wondering what's gonna you know why isn't he texting and all these other things and
like the answer is he sucks and yeah not to diagnose on our podcast but may or may not be a
narcissist I don't know but I hope he listens to this podcast yeah anyways so I told her you know
like even if he said he was going to text today and if he doesn't I just like gave her
like Corrin Halfhand
in a Clash of Kings, right?
Like advice, because I was like,
look, if he texts you or
doesn't text you, that gives you a little more information
and you know more about him than you did
before, and that tells you what you need to know
moving forward.
Yeah.
And how to react. And I was like, well,
wow, this was like really good life advice
from Corrin Halfhand.
When you told me it was Corrin, I was like, what are you going to
tell her to lead men, you must know them?
I mean, it's not dissimilar from what I just said, I think.
I think it kind of said a similar thing.
We can only die.
Why else do we don't these black cloaks but to die in defense?
I'm really glad what you told her.
I think that was a much better quote than what I just read.
I don't think, I mean, that's not the exact quote, but that's like the subtext, you know, of what Corrin said.
That's the lesson to take from it.
That's his entire thing.
Yeah.
That is poor in halfhand.
Yeah.
And so that's what I'm giving all of you today.
Dear listener, because we were to your last week, I'm giving you life advice of, you know, people, they're going to act the way that they do.
You put it out there, right?
I did not command it.
I told you to do what needed to be done and left you to decide what it would be.
And that's how you should approach people in your life.
It'll, like, free you a little, and then you'll know what kind of person someone is and how to react.
Yeah.
that's the song that's the song of ice and fire
Chloe doesn't know and respond her face went through a couple different reactions
you can't see it I'm very grateful that you shared this tidbit of your personal
life with us thank you Eliana I hope everything goes better for your friend and
that she realizes man ain't shit oh yeah yes that a scrub is
a guy who thinks he's fly or that anyways that's a buster maybe there's some core and half-hand in this
episode maybe there's not you're going to have to keep listening to hear how that could relate
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Sometimes you get ASMR too.
I don't like that.
Should I give them a treat?
You don't like when I do it.
No, stop.
I have to listen.
No, I don't know what noise that is.
Ugh.
No.
I have to listen to this again.
We're doing ASMR.
Sometimes I do ASMR.
It's a new thing and honestly I do it because she doesn't like it.
I have friends who call it asthma and I don't like that they call it that either.
I don't like that either.
They're not doing it ironically.
They're doing it in earnest, which I think is.
why I like it even less.
Mm-mm.
Mm-mm.
No, we hate earnest.
Especially when it's earnest from
Death Becomes Her.
I saw that on Broadway recently.
Death Becomes Her.
Really have to recommend it, everyone.
There's an earnest in that, and we do not respect him.
Okay.
We do not respect him.
We do not respect Ernest from Death becomes her.
Tell me, Ernest.
What about Brapia hour this November, Eliaba?
We've got to pack November
except for the part where we missed last week
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And so that's going to be on November 23rd
Switching things up
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And yes, it truly will be E.T. this time.
Eliana time.
Oh, yeah, that's on our Discord
where, yeah, we all join, we hang out on the Vigja
And, um...
How do you get there, you know, Eliana?
Like, would I be able to go?
Well, yeah.
But if I was not me, would I be able to go?
I don't know.
I don't know if you would be able to go if you were not you.
But if you are not Chloe, but you also don't suck.
What?
What?
If you were not you, what if you suck?
No, I respect it.
I respect it.
What if you suck?
Then you could not come.
Negamie.
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Oh, my God, the hijinks.
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It is nice.
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I don't know.
I'm afraid I'm going to be spoiled for the movie.
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I've never seen a single movie.
We see what people are watching.
I'm afraid.
I'm afraid.
It'll influence me.
What?
How can I be a strong independent thinker?
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But now
The moment that you've all been waiting for
What's that?
We're going to briefly discuss
Each chapter you missed between
Dineries 7 in a Dance with Dragons
And De Norees 8
in a dance with dragons, starting with John 9, where John cuts a deal with the Iron Bank.
The Blind Girl.
Aria successfully graduates from being magically slash chemically blinded.
Talk about dark academia.
Oh, my God.
She freestyled that one.
Thanks, guys.
A ghost in Winterfell.
I guess I have to freestyle this one, too, apparently.
Commitst mystery murders,
Fionn is pulled in for a conspiracy.
Nice.
Thank you. That was really hard.
Tyrion, Tan. Tyrion, Penny, and Jora are sold to Yezin,
and then get told to prepare for a show.
Jamie won.
Jamie lifts the siege at Raventree,
taking a hostage, a hostage, if you will,
and seeing his old flame,
Brienne along the way
who has found
Sansa Stark
Dun dun dun dun
Allegedly
Allegedly
Oh unruly
John 10
You're invited to
Allison Sigourne's wedding
It's arguably
The Superior
A Doa Wedding
Yeah
That's actually like
Wait you should say a
Doa Doa Wedding
A Doa Wedding
It's good right
It feels good
It feels good
That was kind of fun.
I'm kind of into that.
Oh my gosh.
Well, that brings us to this wedding.
This wedding sucks.
It's full of slavers, hypocrites, and Danny ends up feeling powerless for most of it.
And then, of course, it ends with her embracing her dragons and warning Quentin of what's to come.
We open the chapter.
Oh, my God.
We open the chapter with youngish laughter, songs, prayers, all ringing through the hall.
Dancers are spinning, while musicians play queer tunes of bells and squeaks.
Wine flows, rich vintages from the arbor, question mark, how'd that get here, and dream wine from Carth.
The young Kai had come at King Hizdar's invite to sign the piece and witness the reopening of Marines' fighting pits.
Hizdar had opened the Great Pyramid to honor them.
What this all means, we will unpack as we go.
Danny thinks that she hates this.
How did I come to feast with men that I'd rather flay?
Not the first wedding in this story that we think of the flayed man at.
True.
True.
True.
Pretty recently with Aria, quote unquote, quote unquote.
Allegedly.
Allegedly.
That's like my line.
That's amazing.
I love it.
Also, Danny associating herself with like those that flay, they who flay, they who flay
Flay is an interesting concept, because we don't really think about her as that kind of person,
unless they're bad people, like slavers.
Yeah, it's kind of interesting, too.
This is a wedding that is being orchestrated while devastating things are happening below the surface, right?
And folks are pretending they aren't happening in broad daylight.
Like, no, they're not slaughtering all the guests, like the Red Wedding,
or like what Danny thought about
and Dario kind of implied to her a little bit ago,
but right beneath her nose,
because she's not busy slaying all these people at the wedding,
they are carding in and out slaves and selling these people.
All under the geese of a wedding, right?
Right beneath her nose, right beneath everything she stands for.
Not good.
Not good.
Things are bad.
Good call, though, on how it is very close by
to the Bolton Wedding
but also yeah, that's right
I don't know, like
not saying red wedding is good
but also not saying that
Dario didn't have a point
as we discussed
during that time
also the way that Deneeres
feels here
kind of makes me think like
this might have been how like Robert
probably felt after he was crowned king
he's like oh my god
I'm just here with a bunch of people
that I hear
hate that I'd rather like
a flay like probably in regards to the Lannisters
but like a bunch of other people too
I kind of think it's possible that Aries
felt this way about a bunch of people as well
in terms of having to feast
with them I think any ruler would
right that's kind of the price of responsibility
and power and
again not saying Deneas is like Ares
but I am it's just
funny because I'm like yeah I feel like Aries thought this
but he was like what if I gave into those urges
No I
love what you've pointed out here because I think
there's a lot of this throughout the chapter
focusing on maybe some of the
Wastrosi rulers and what this looked
like for them while they were ruling and
what their lineup looks like and also
why some of these very
mediocre rulers last as
long as they do seems to come up
right? And why Danny is
having such a fucking uphill battle
it seems
pretty prominent in this chapter.
Yeah, she's having a bad time
and
I guess I had two weddings. I had two
weddings and they rocked.
Yeah, I'm going on this coming weekend, too.
And I expected to rock.
What?
My next wedding?
No, I'm just kidding.
I mean, like, we did float you having another one.
To the same person.
I just want you all to know, like, we're not floating like a new spouse.
No, just another wedding.
Yeah.
A dozen meats are served at this wedding, and I'm excited about this.
We have camel, crocodile,
squid, ducks, grubs,
goat, horse, and dog
because, well,
no Giscari feast is complete
without dog, and in parentheses I want you to know,
I wrote out Locust in my note.
Spices fill the air.
Very pertinent because it's all coming.
Like, after this chapter, we actually have to go back
and reread Quentin and Barristan. It's crazy.
Actually, maybe. I don't know.
Yeah, like, maybe. We might flirt with it.
Spices fill.
a little bit air, but Danny scarcely eats.
This is peace, she tells herself, yet it tastes of defeat.
Yeah, as people pointed out over the years, I mean, it isn't really peace, right?
Like, everything that's going on, that is a violence that's going on underneath her nose.
And, yeah, it is defeat.
You have been, this is defeat to D'Daris, and I'm going to switch gears entirely because
this is a food podcast
and I don't know
how a camel tastes but I'm here for it
I've heard about people like consuming camel and I've
tried camel's milk I wasn't
it was a little too
too much for me I don't think I
didn't love it but I am
here for like most of these like I don't know
I think they said they had singing squid
unless it's a different squid like I feel as though
squid is just like a very normal
dish to have maybe
crocodile
I haven't had crocodile, but I've had alligator. I assume you've had alligator, Chloe. You strike
me as long as that alligator. I've had both. I assume they taste similar. It probably all just
tastes like chicken, though. Yeah, they're like gamey and lean and chickeny. You know, like a little
bit chickeny, but very lean. They're like flaky or chicken. And that saves it from being too
gamey. Yeah. Yeah, it dries very easy. I've had jerky. There's a really great jerky place
on 127 north in Michigan, or maybe it's on south. Because there's a lot of alligators there. Yeah.
What, um, huh?
No?
No.
That is fake news.
Do you not listen to her?
What the fuck?
I'm just spreading misinformation.
Hey, that's me.
Oh, I bet you are spreading me.
Whoa.
I'm sorry.
The third word.
Sorry, that came up.
Oh, my God.
The dragon is after, yes.
So, yeah, because like, turns out they've just, some people in the scientific
of a community. This is actually not made up.
Have decided that birds are warm reptiles.
So that makes sense for them all to kind of taste
similar as chicken. I think
the duck,
duck is a very normal food to have had.
I don't know. They're all like for the last
adventures, they'd like goat, horse, and
I don't know. I guess, yeah, with the dog, but I'm also
like, I don't know, duck seems like a very normal dish
to have had across many cultures.
Goat, also in my opinion,
like, quite normal
in many cultures. Arguably, in my opinion,
and delicious. It's kind of just like also
not gamey, but like
a, it's similar to lamb.
It's got a similar in my opinion, like
taste in some aspects
to lamb, not exactly.
And also regarding horse, I mean, like,
whomst amongst us has not eaten horse
at IKEA, I say.
Let, let
he was not
accidentally a horse at IKEA cast the first
stone.
Huh.
Questions, comments, and concerns on that one,
But glossing over that.
Yeah, Camel, I have not had, but I've heard it's kind of, like, got that gamey taste to it,
kind of like lamb or beef, but it's a little sweet.
Okay.
So I could see it being good, like, in a ragu.
But because it kind of plays with those flavors and balances it, because, again, we're a food podcast.
But I because I like that about, like, lamb, it's kind of gamey or, like, bison or venison,
like, balancing it with different flavors because of that taste.
But also, it's, like, I really like what George is doing here in some ways because it's, like,
relativity to location, right? And this is something that I feel with food. Like, you're going to
eat what's around you first and foremost. Yes, you'll import things. But, like, for some people,
crocodile is their bird, right? Like, that's, I mean, you look at, like, it's the same as, like,
the reeds getting made fun of for eating frogs, right? Like, frogs are, like, their local food.
That's just what's there. They're also, exactly. So, like, to me, I'm like, this is kind of,
of a family of food that human eat.
Yeah.
If that makes sense.
Like, I feel like this is very, like, I would never judge anyone, obviously, on eating one of
these things as their normal thing.
If that's what you have around you, that's what you eat, man.
Like me, LeCroix just grows on the ground in my house.
It does.
And, like, also at the same time, you know, if you're hungry and you're desperate, for the
most part, you eat what's there, right?
Like, doesn't surprise me.
I mean, Dineries just had her last culture shock right with horse.
where they ate horse a lot, because that is what they had around them in surplus was horse.
Yeah.
So, I don't know.
Plus, I mean, we talk about cannibalism a lot in this podcast.
So, like, all these things, I'm like, these are all relatively tame compared to that.
And then-
To, like, eating each other, yeah.
Yeah, Dario says that, you know, the Gascari, they don't eat dragon or human.
They eat everything with dragon and human, but they would probably eat dragon if given the chance.
And I'm like, you know what?
Sure.
I fucking would, too.
And also, I bet it tastes like chicken also.
Yeah.
Right?
It's obviously a reptile.
Similar. Similar class.
I think so.
They're just big chickens.
Just like us for real.
You're such a freak.
I love you.
I think that's normal.
Like, would you not?
Like, would you not?
Have we discussed this before?
I feel like we've probably discussed it before.
But I'm just saying.
What haven't we discussed?
I don't know.
What haven't we discussed?
Like, at this point.
Who knows?
Readers, write in.
What do you want to hear?
or that we really haven't hit yet in, what, 300 times?
Let's just say, like, 900, 1,000 hours of, anyways.
I feel like there's a couple of things, and that, you know,
I know we've gotten requests for certain kinds of specific, like, Patreon episodes,
and some of it's just, some of it, it just seems like so much work.
And some of it, some of it.
It's all coming.
I'm like, other people have done this way better than I could.
So you just go listen to them talk about it.
Like, you don't, you legitimately do not want to hear me talk about it.
You want to hear them.
talk about it.
Yeah.
And that's why we're bringing you Gossip Girls Gone Canon this month.
Anyway.
Yeah.
They wanted this.
They told me.
I heard it.
Like Missonde hearing.
Oh, my God.
So, Hizdar tries to sue Danny.
And he's like, listen, the young guy will leave soon.
They're going to leave peace and food and trade behind.
And Danny's like, yeah, but their warships are literally in the port.
Like, I can look out of my window and see them.
It's mocking me.
And he's like, no, no, it's just posturing.
It's just posturing.
They'll turn it all into a fruit market when they leave.
Like, trust me on this.
And despite, of course, Danny's complaints that, like, we're looking outside and there's a slave market being set up in full view of my home.
Like, that's insulting, man.
But Danny also knows and says, riders are approaching.
The Dothraki are bringing captives for sale.
she realizes this is becoming a trafficking hot spot
despite all of the anti-slave trafficking hot spot rules
that she has put out in signposts.
How can they not read them?
How can they not know?
Yeah, I don't know how that George meant to do this.
Maybe he didn't, maybe he didn't.
But in regards to the slave market and he's making like,
yeah, we'll just turn into fruit market.
Is it like a reference to the song Strange Fruit,
which is about the lynchings of
black people. Yeah, I think, like, also, what's going on out here outside the walls of
Marine, this is not posing and posturing. Like, this isn't words and prayers. Like, this is the actual
policy and action now, right? Like, this is the reality. And actual material change there.
Not, not in real life. Again, this is just a story. But this is the material change. And,
like, yeah, Denarius, you have been rendered powerless. You kind of did it to yourself.
And, like, it might be outside the walls of Marine, but it's so close to Marine.
It's basically practically the same land.
Like, the whole city isn't that big and, like, that close without any sort of enforcement of the other laws.
If anything, the posing and posturing here is actually Marine.
It's, that's an empty, that's an empty place now.
It's not the slave market.
Like, that's your husband that you just married because he promised you peace.
That also was like, in order to marry you and bring you peace, I'm bringing slavery back.
Yeah.
The posing and posturing is her being like, yeah.
But what if we just said we were against slavery and didn't actually enforce it?
Unfortunately, that's the reality of your current kingdom.
It's also great to be able to chart the Dothraki because I'm pretty sure this might be Jago, right?
I don't know.
Don't know.
We literally have no clue.
No, none of us know. But you do. Oh.
I mean, I'm just thinking, you know, he leaves. And if all of the Dothraki, all of the different
Kalesars and the people are all a big part of her beginning plot in the winds a winner, which is,
my God, this is crazy. You guys, you all, look under your chair right now. Look under your chair.
Oh, my God. The wins of winter. What if it was here? What if it was here by the time we said that?
Like, what if it was here by this Friday?
Like, in the next few days, this came out.
Eliana, look at your ceiling.
It's the winds of winter.
Oh, my God.
You're like, I'm not falling for that shit again.
It feels like it right now.
It's fucking 32 degrees.
That's the fucking winds of winter right there.
Jesus.
It's fucked up.
It's fucked up.
It is fucked up.
But, yeah, so it's crazy to, like, chart that they came, brought some slaves left,
and then they get far enough that maybe we see them in the beginning of T-W.
with Danny's plot.
Maybe.
It's fun to map it out.
I don't know.
It's kind of fun.
Kind of fun.
I believe you.
Thank you.
Leave me alone.
I don't know anything.
That is Glinda vibes now that you say it.
Damn.
This is a debate.
Not an argument.
We don't argue.
This is a debate.
We were settling.
Yeah, discussion.
I was curious.
I was like, are you Glinda and I'm Elfabah?
But then she was like, I think I'm Chistery, the monkey.
So I don't know.
it could be two things
I don't know
Yeah
Inside of you there are
Two Wicked characters
So
Wrapped in Vermilion
And black thoughts
Danny endures the feast
Letting his daughter laugh
And boast
The talk turned to the morrow's
Pitfights
Barsena black hair
Against the Boar
Cros
The spotted cat
Gogor versus Balakwo
Lara Balaquo
Um
No queen has clean hands
Danny tells herself
This is the price of peace
Okay
I know this is sacrilegious
I've been like comparing her to Robert
But like I think we're supposed to
Because they're both rulers
I think I'm supposed to
It's also a little Stanish
Stanisish of her
That one's weird to say
But to be taking no part in the feast itself
And be rendered silent
like Robert obviously wasn't silent. We know this. He was very boisterous. He was loud and he made speeches. But the politicking itself was left to everyone around him. And that's what she's letting his dar do here in a way. She's letting him do the politicking. We've seen for a couple of chapters now. She's just like, I don't know. I don't know. Just let my husband decide what to do about those things. She's just washed her hands entirely of like that situation even though she's saying no queen has clean hands. And Robert was effective.
made silent and that's what's happening
to her here. It also
reminds me of Stannis and that like
we know what Stannis is like
he doesn't want to partake in festivities
and when that would also arguably be important for the
politicking and I understand why Dineries doesn't like want
to deal with these people. It kind of makes sense.
It does make sense. Right? Like what's
the fucking point of it? But
you know, especially because
like she's been rendered powerless again.
What is she going to do with all these people?
There's nothing to negotiate.
anymore. She's already
lost. For now, I don't
know, girl. Just bust out the dragons.
We could fucking red bedding this. I'm
just saying, I'm not, I mean
like, not this thing. It's terrible because
that's literally the answer. Like, that's the answer
throughout this entire
art. And that's what Danny Ten is
about. Like, she's a prettier
and we're going to get reminded of it soon.
Oh my gosh, she's a way prettier
Tywin. Well, that's also true.
Anyways, so
denarius pays a price.
But again, is this piece because she's all like, you know, I didn't want to create any more De Reyes, Quoros, and Airways.
I'm like, well, this is going to just keep making more De Reyes, Quoros and Airways, especially if you're telling me that the Dothraki are coming with more captives.
That was kind of what they fucking were doing out there.
And like, maybe this is not the system that creates more Haseas, because, you know, Drogon's out and about doing whatever.
but like, you know, the few that will die now from this system, A, it's not very few, and it's
still going to be the same few that always died. And, you know, she's saying she's willingly paying
the price for whatever this piece is. And I'm like, again, who is actually paying the price
here? We asked this in practically, like, every POV. We asked it a lot during, like, some of those
status heavy ones. And, like, standard sacrifices an ongoing theme throughout the series. And
I don't think this is the sacrifice
This is not the price she wanted to pay
You paid to get
Literally none of the things you wanted
Yeah
And it's great that you kind of differentiated
Dereo's Quaro's Aeroys
From the Hoseas right
Because also like Danny was born into this system
And sold right back into this system
And it's something that like she
Has acknowledged and has tried to change
but also she's now part of it in creating these deaths, right?
The system that creates Hasea's, the system that creates Quintons.
I mean, she was meant to marry a prince.
She was meant to chew him up and swallow him up for his use, too, in a way.
He would have liked it.
Oh, yeah, he's totally probably into that.
He's in it.
He's probably undead right now, rigor mortis, but only in his undead cock.
Yeah.
And I'm sorry I said those words.
I really don't know what I did.
I was here to support you.
I was like, yeah.
Yeah.
Girl power.
Oh, my God.
We meet the youngish commander.
Yirka's Yo-Yunzak.
He's ancient.
He's toothless.
He's carried to the table.
His fellow lords are scarcely more impressive than he is.
And Danny's like, how have such men brought me so low?
Like, how the fuck did this happen?
I wonder this all the time.
So, so real.
The self-sword captains are another matter, right?
The tattered prince is there.
Gailo Regan of the Long Lanses and Bloodbeard of the Company of the Cat.
And then, wait, here's a guess that if he showed up at my wedding after the shit he just pulled,
there would be no safe conduct.
Brown Ben Plum.
What the fuck?
You just come to my wedding, bitch?
You just show the fuck up.
What is it?
You show up on the day of my wedding.
Of my wedding.
Fuck my daughter.
My wedding.
Not my daughter, my wedding.
We get a little reminder.
I mean, we could.
We could do.
We get a little reminder that in between chapters here as well,
she has sworn peace to the young kai, sending seven hostages of her own,
including Dario, so one of the big,
backbones and beats of this episode
is every other paragraph
her thinking
what the fuck have I done
I've sent Dario away
it's good for him
it's good for him this is right
he needs to go be a hostage to somebody
no no it's not good for him
if he was here he would have killed everyone
oh it's so sexy and oh my god now I'm wet
but she thinks he will be safer there
my captain was not made for peace
and all I'm gonna say is like girl
whatever you gotta tell yourself sister
whatever you got situation ship so bad you give him up as a hostage like that's messy
maybe they're all in that way i don't know oh my god this all sucks like the enemy was
fucking invited to your wedding the literal enemies that you've sworn against are just big
chilling at your wedding just hanging out and you know at your wedding
you've let them render you toothless and
Okay, so I think this is so unrelated, once again.
Another person who's a guest at this wedding from the Salsword companies is Bloodbeard,
who is described as farting like a thunder clap.
And that just made me think of our friend Thunderclap.
Not that you're like a fart, but I wasn't sure if like...
Was it about him?
Yeah, did you take your inspiration from this name?
I don't know.
Let me know.
A Thunder clap, maybe.
Maybe.
I need to know.
Thunder clap right in.
Tell us if you're the big fart.
Sorry.
We're not trying to gas, like you.
Yeah.
Trying to gas you up.
I'm sorry.
We are trying to gas you up.
Anyways, good call out.
Thank you.
Also, this is a crazy year ball guy.
Nothing else besides.
Good job, Aliana.
We also learned that Scaha's Mokandak has been displaced here.
He's replaced by Hizdar's cousin, Margaz.
Molorak, right?
So we have a Scaha's Molorak now.
The shavepate's outy.
We get the line.
The shave paint was absent as well.
The first thing Hizdar had done upon being crowned was to remove him from command of the brazen beasts.
No.
Replacing him with his own cousin, the plump and pasty margazzoorak.
It is for the best.
The green grace says there's blood between Lorak and Kandak and the shavepate.
Well, yeah, no fucking shit because.
scahasmocondack was literally like actually kind of going out at the nobles a little bit
like he actually see i'm back to thinking he's good yeah i'm back to thinking well he's not all
resinac suck we yeah resnac anti now but i do think i do think actually i don't know she should
why did she let him do this like she didn't have to do that she didn't have to let his dar do that
She should have kept Scahas, even though there's bad blood.
She should have kept him on as a check.
Yeah.
Checks and balances.
We used to have that in this country.
We used to be a country.
Maybe we never were.
I don't know.
All right.
Sorry.
I went down a whole, like, journey just now.
Interesting that when Ben meets her here in a minute, he offers her someone's head.
he just says like, I've got a head for you, I'm going to bring you a head, which I'm like, oh, Tyrion.
So he doesn't really know where he's going to lie, but it doesn't really seem to entrance her.
She's like not interested.
She's like, yeah, yeah, whatever, you have a head for me.
She, like, glosses over it, which is fun.
I'm like, because she's so busy being mad at everyone else.
Yeah, I think, I didn't realize, yeah, you're probably right at Tyrion's, but also I'm like, who is she, Circy?
What's she going to fucking do with Tyrion's head?
Nothing.
Yeah.
It's not going to make.
Can she take it to bed?
Can she take it to bed with her?
Will it tell her jokes?
I mean, maybe.
But, like, also, I think that's also the vibe, too, right?
Yeah.
Hashtag, not all queens.
Not all queens want Tyrion's head.
No, but she does want Brown Ben Plum's head, so.
I think we actually discussed this a long time ago.
Something's unlocking in my fucking brain right now about.
Scary?
About, like, some of the early T.
Wow chapters, La Barristan
T-wow chapters
In Patreon
You're gonna have to pry that shit out of me
With the crowbar, I have no clue
I like, I can't
I'm not gonna be able to unlock this memory
But something's awakening
Something is changed within me
Something is not the same
I'm dreaming
I'm playing by the rules
Someone else is Game of Thrones
Someone else's Game of Thrones
Game of Thrones
That's
going to be in our Battle of the Bells, not Battle of the Bells.
Sorry, that's a specific song. That's going to be in our Roberts Rebellion musical.
Oh, wait. Where?
I don't know, but Edina Menzel's going to be in it, even though she says she can't do it anymore.
She's going to be in it.
I'm going to find out of defying gravity.
Okay.
So.
Nobody in where.
Astros. Sorry, as you were.
No, wizard or anyone doing the most?
I don't know.
Is that they're going to
rent my chance,
Oh, so you've envisioned it coming from Ray Gar's point of view
because, like, it could.
It could.
It's the only thing I'd think of in the last moment, really.
I mean, it could be interesting.
And that's often how art works.
Yeah, it could be interesting if it were like blood,
Raven, because he's also, like, defied gravity through the burbs, you know?
Oh.
It's a thought.
Oh, interesting.
Interesting.
Anyways, back to Danny eight.
Yeah, not...
Danny eight.
She did not eight in this chapter either.
Sorry, Queen.
Her second wedding continues.
She can't cut down brown bun plum.
She can't provoke the young guy.
She can't mock his dar in front of the court.
And she also can't have Dario.
either. So like, what the fuck
is the point of all this, you know?
Dario, she thinks of, is
war and woe. And
one of the thoughts she has of Dario
that I thought was interesting, and part of why she's like,
I got to send them away is
if he did not betray her, he would master
her. She did not know which of those
she feared the most. And
I think these are perfectly reasonable fears for her
to have because she has experienced both.
Right? And I think
it's very pointed for Deneeris'
storyline. And
especially when it comes to these fears
like anyone that she deals with
as a partner
as a spouse is going to
potentially be one of these
categories like she can't risk being mastered again
like she was able to
you know maneuver
Caldrogo
but she was
sold to him in the capacity of him being her master
right? It's very pointed language as well
that she thinks of Dario
is potentially mastering her
in the context of this storyline and
slavery and all that happening outside the window.
But I think it's also the conflict, internal conflict, that most of the women and girls
face in the world of A Song of Ice and Fire where their father's, brothers, husbands are all
in effect, their masters, they are all rendered as property.
And even if they act as though, like, even if their father's, brother's husbands act
like they're good guys and, like, they're not, they're masters, they still do end up
betraying them when they don't act like that because they will still turn it around on them
and go against their wishes and reassert that power over them in some extent.
You know, we see it in the way that, like, Rob was like, I can't actually trade for my sister.
Sorry.
Or the way that, like, you know, he kind of locked up Catlin.
She did commit a crime.
But anyway.
Oh, son.
Yeah, suns far under there too.
So, yeah.
Yeah.
I like the way you've put this, especially because when we start her first act of the story,
the horse in culture is so prominent for the Dothraki, right?
Like the Dothraki arc becomes a big deal and being able to sit the horse,
making sure that the horse can obey you, et cetera.
Obviously, it's kind of preceding her relationship with the dragon later,
but also really instructs and paints this kind of power structure
and struggle to stay on top like Drogo falling off of his horse, right?
That's a sign of a fallen leader, a fallen co.
And a dragon also, you know, we come later to the line,
you're going to talk about it in just a minute about her on top of the pyramid, right?
A naked little girl on top of the pyramid.
And that's also just something that she's been having throughout her entire art.
this entire visual of her as the little naked vulnerable girl at the top of the power structure waiting to topple.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, let's just talk about it now of like, it's not just the power structure on waiting to topple.
And like, it's a pile of bodies.
The path that she has climbed to the top is built on bodies.
Yeah.
That's it.
I mean, it's like pretty straightforward.
I think like there's multiple, there's several layers with which one can interpret that moment in scene.
and I think George wants us to
kind of not that it like
what he wants us to do like really fucking matters
but like
I think that's part of what he was trying to write
into that scene all those different kinds of ways
that that can be taken
after the feast
and after Danny urges the leftover food
to be given to the poor
Gyrr causes castratis sing in the tongue
of old geese
his dar calls their voices divine
and Danny agrees but she's like I feel like
they probably would have preferred to keep their manhood. And I really, I respect that she says
that, like, doesn't do much in this moment, but I think she's right. And also I like that she
did, she did think to give the food to all those people instead of throwing it away. I think that
this poses an interesting contrast to the opulence of those Lannister weddings, right? Like, even
Tomens are like, yeah, it was a really small modest wedding with like a bazillion dishes. I'm like,
oh, word. Oh, yeah, that's interesting. Absolutely.
I guess especially now that they fucking have food here.
Yeah.
Well, and right, that's the next sign of, like, them having the food, them having power in the city again, but also at what cost, to the point you made of it being built on bodies.
Interesting.
Yeah.
And an interesting difference of, like, in the show that the books were based on.
You have, you know, Circe kind of, like, forced into giving them the food away against her will.
at the Purple Wedding, where Marjorie kind of also pushed and Mastra Paisal pushed, et cetera.
Yeah.
Interesting.
Yeah, I suddenly just realized, you know, like, that is another thing that's likening it with the
reconstruction stuff, right, and trying to get the food because the agricultural center,
not center, but a lot of the agriculture, of course, was perhaps coming from the south.
It's great to think of that in terms of what's happening in Westeros, too, right?
You have the veil kind of like with food, with stock, with grain.
they're all right
and then everyone else
is kind of struggling
over that now
in the reach
we good
like the place that had the wine
the arbor
yeah that's true
I wonder if
I really think brown ben plum
maybe brought some of that back
just saying
because they have friends
in the reach
right
he got it delivered
man you could really make a really good
postal service with dragons
I thought you meant like the band and I'm like Ben Gibbard but a dragon
interesting we can have a postal service or postal servicey song in the musical too
it goes oh such great heights could go along pretty well with a defying gravity if you think
about it huh uh-huh please don't turn this into a jukebox musical we're way more creative
than that no no we're not going to we're way more creative no you're right no you're right
I don't want a jukebox musical.
And we're going to write it.
We're going to do it, you guys.
I believe in us that we will finish it someday.
Yeah.
I mean, like, what else are we going to do after Tyrion's done?
Every entertainer at the wedding was a slave.
That had been part of the piece.
What isn't a part of the piece, quote unquote?
His dar had offered to accept the singers as a gift.
He will make more.
She thinks bitterly.
All the slave owners had been allowed to bring their slaves to the city of Marine and to the wedding without threat of them being freed.
That was also part of the piece.
How nice.
When the guests next wander out into the night gardens, Danny finally meets face to face with traitor brown Ben Plum.
He tries to joke with her and bow to her and call her his magnificence.
And she's like, you're a traitor.
so there's that he says he simply went over to the winning side and that his men had voted on it not just his choice he tells her it isn't all about the gold and then he tells her a sell sword's tail once he came upon a corpse that was wearing a studded jerkin and he took the jerkin but gold was hidden within the jerkin it was enough gold for any man to be a lord but this one had died and he asks what's the use of gold for him
a dead man going on to, of course, tell us that his captain kind of robbed him of the gold
and was like, you can keep the jerking kid.
He learned a valuable lesson that day.
And I do have to call out, beneath the gold, the bitter steel, question mark.
Question mark, question mark.
It felt like that was in there.
I think so, especially with all the talk of, like, sell sword companies and, like,
what they're willing to defect for and whatnot.
Which side did affect, too?
Yeah.
Yeah.
And that's the lesson.
See, silver's sweet, gold's our mother,
but once you're dead,
they're worth less than the last shit you take as you lie dying.
I told you once there are old cell swords
and there are bold cell swords,
but there are no old, bold cell swords.
My boys didn't care to die, that's all.
And when I told them,
you couldn't unleash them dragons against the youngish men.
Well, Danny thinks.
You saw me as defeated.
But she tells him she understands, and she does, really, she thinks it too.
She asks, what'd you do with all that wealth he once found?
And then he tells the story of losing it to his brothers and captain,
tells her, never trust a cell sword.
Later, she comes upon Barriston, who agrees after having eavesdropped.
Yes, he was right to tell you never to trust a cell sword.
Danny's like, interesting.
So do you think we could convince somebody like a cell sword in the second son?
to kill Brown Ben and take his place.
Embarrassing gets really uncomfortable, and he's like, I'm not sure.
And she thinks, no, he's far too honorable to answer to this.
Of course he wouldn't be able to do that.
I don't know that I ever really paid attention here, but I'm like,
Danny out here like, so anyways, could we kill him.
What do you think about killing him?
Dario did that once with those guys.
Should I kill him?
Should I just kill him?
I'm really pissed about him.
Should I kill him?
I mean, yeah, I like didn't pay attention and notice this.
like really either, but uh...
Should I kill him? Should we kill him?
She could. I just, like, really don't know the difference of a make.
I'm like, maybe Danny didn't pay attention to it either, because Brown Ben Plum
also told her, like, he didn't make the decision, the whole troop did.
Like, killing him isn't going to change and make them all suddenly be like,
yo, what if we follow you? Right?
Like, it couldn't even, like, split the company and be like, I don't know, one dude.
One dude defects to Danny, like, as opposed to weird dart.
He's like, the whole, everyone's coming with me.
you know getting rid of him would be like an act of vengeance which like I'm not saying she would be wrong to seek like what good would it do you like it's not going to change the outcome like another head's just going to rise up in its place all the second sons they're still going to choose the winning side because they want to live now if you unleashed your dragons then you could kill brown bed plum and get everyone on your side because you had dragons girl yeah I've got I got ideas I could fix it I could fix her
I could fix her.
Well, and like, that's the point.
If she had released her dragons from the front of this book,
she would be able to maybe have prevented a lot of the bullshit that's happening around her,
let alone winning over him and his men.
He says it very clearly throughout this chapter, throughout previous chapters.
If you unleash your dragons, we will all follow you and we will never look at another.
And because of that, they have looked at another.
Because of that, people are talking that there is another to follow out there now.
He's going to Westeros.
That's a problem for her.
She missed out on more than her big chance here within the city politics, but also a wider scope.
And all of this, of course, is leading to chapter 10, Danny 10, Unleash the D.
Yes.
Right?
Where she unleashes both herself and the dragon, the Danny and the dragon.
Like that is, when she does that, that is what everyone's been.
telling her this entire book, so I understand
why she had to say no, this entire
book, because Danny Ten is that much of
an epic that finally says
the dragons know
who you are, Denarius, do
you? Yeah.
I mean, yeah, she should have
just, she had released it,
and also, like, I mean, yeah, the second
sons told you, like,
not only do they want to be on the winning side,
they want to be on the side, but the most pizzazz.
And who has more pizzazz than the
dragons?
God, not this, like, young griff-ass bitch.
No, I mean, like, he's got cool hair, I guess, but so does Deneerries.
Anyways.
So, also her being, like, I don't know, what if we just, like, found a way to just kill, just kill Bromben Plum?
It does remind me a little of seriously trying to get a kettle black to assassinate John.
Denieres is much more justified in all this, because I'm also just like, I don't know, what did John do to use?
He's just there.
He's just there.
Yeah, that's...
He is just there.
It's like he's not going to get there alive, probably, let's be real.
A very desperate plea, right, for power.
Like, you could tell she's feeling powerless in the latter half of this chapter.
Yeah, that's true.
That's true.
Bereson reminds her that the second sons are full of treacherous men,
but he could call up Gailo Reagan or the Tattered Prince to chit-chat with her if she really wants
She decides there are too many eyes and ears to do that now
But they should plan to find another path soon to do so
She says that in
Pereson says that in Kings Landing usually Littlefinger would have done all this
Or varies and he's like I'm just too old
And I'm too much of a night to specialize in this
And then there he says that they can release maybe some of the honored guests
Like pretty Maris is a gesture of respect to their captain
Bairston says
The woman's the worst of all of them
You know, like women's rights
They can be like shitty and
And violent too
That's what gender equality is about
Yeah
Woo
Yeah
And Danny says all the better
Exactly
She also recommends
They free up the long lances
And the company of the cat
Like Bloodbeard
There's blood beard again
To help do their bidding
Bairston tells her
She's too young to remember
the nine penny kings but uh it was bad and blood beard is like that he's bad and i'm like
well bearson why don't you tell me about the war of the nine penny kings my roman empire also like
it's interesting that he is like out there talking about the bad performers of the nine penny
kings and not about how there was actually a class struggle going on beneath the surface as well
like beneath the gold though bitter steel you mean oh my god eddie gras like danny tell
him, well, I don't want to go against you, but I do want to have a defense ready for when
my husband, you know, breaks the peace, which I'm 900% sure is going to happen.
Wait, does De Nere's not know about the nine penit? Does she not know anything about the
Blackfires at all? I don't think she does. I don't think she does either. I think she's
been fed straight up America propaganda her entire life. Well, I think, I wonder if this series even
really knew much about them because he was like just a boy he was just a boy like I couldn't
download all fucking history class at seven or eight years old so like I don't think she knows
about the blackfires the Wi-Fi and Tyroche and bravos like wasn't that good at the time like
this is like the 90s we didn't well and not even like the end of the 90s with the matrix where
you could download it all in your head you know right like the front of the 90s where like you
were lucky if you had the AOL disc in the mail that you put into your computer with three minutes
on it and you couldn't call at the same time
I'm like the worst glass candle, the worst glass candle ever.
That's my ASMR.
We're going to sample that for a song in our Roberts Rebellion musical.
It's going to be very avant-garde.
We kind of hear that, you know, Barrison says to her, look, I don't really, like, this is stuff Little Finger would do back in court.
Like, this isn't me, girl.
And so it's another repeat of the conversation with Grolio, right? Admiral Grolio, like, I don't do this. This isn't my job. Once more, Danny doesn't have the right people in the right places. She doesn't, A, trust anyone in her vicinity to be her spy master. The closest may have been Scahaz, Mokondack, honestly. Barriston doesn't have the capability to be a spy master. We all know that. He is her head knight, H.
guy. I was going to say H-Bick, but I'm like, he's not the head bitch in charge.
That's Danny.
Co. H-B.
Associate H-Bick.
I don't know. I find it so interesting.
Like, even the most mediocre of kings are successful in Westeros, even with an inherited cabinet, right?
Like, a lot of the council gets forgiven when Robert inherits them.
And sure, he's not a great king.
He's not really a successful king.
He doesn't have a lot of things to write about besides the grade.
Rebellion. After that, it's like, it's peace, homie, until it's not. But inheriting even just
like a somewhat skilled cabinet helped him lead the great country of Westrose. And she doesn't
have that lineup. Like, she doesn't have the full lineup on the bench. She doesn't have everybody
filled in. And she's ignoring the advice that he is giving her. He's like, hey, you're sending out
some really bloodthirsty people who have no reason to be loyal to you whatsoever to do just.
jobs for you maybe, like, seems bad and you're hoping, like, you're going to let them out on
goodwill and they're going to be like, yeah, I'll do these things for you.
This does seem maybe like an ill choice to release some of these folks.
I mean, maybe.
But I'm also an abolitionist, so, like, get them out of there.
Okay, okay.
Journeys, journeys are taken.
I can be two things.
Inside of you, there are two characters from Wicked.
Free them.
Free them.
I'm bobbing my wine in my head, you guys.
You're missing it.
Yes, and also what you were saying here reminds me of how we were discussing with Circe's chapters.
Like, even the most mediocre of fucking kings were successful because people actually
fucking listen to them and would do what they wanted them to do solely because they had
a dick, right?
Whereas for Circe, she has to, like, fight and scrape for everything.
bit of like loyalty and you know she wasn't taught a bunch of things and like people won't listen
to her like people would say yes to like the dumbest fucking ideas from like mediocre guys again solely
solely because of the dick and they wouldn't for her even though like some of them i'm like i don't
know that that was a bad idea right right but with denari's like she's kind of dealing with that
too right now like you can see that she's starting to be rendered again powerless by
everything, and in the same way that, like, you know,
seriously is trying to be like, well, who's loyal to me?
What moves can I even make?
Because my son is usurping me.
That's the, not usurping, but, you know, that's the issue that DeNeres is dealing with here.
She's like, well, I guess my husband's taking over stuff and, oh, I guess my household's
full of, like, enemies.
What the fuck are all these youngish doing here, you know?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Bad times, you know.
things are terrible
what's the line we like to say
diva down
diva is down
no you're totally right
she is down and like I know we've said that
a lot in Searcy chapters
but also I feel like we've said it a bit in Danny chapters
and like yeah diva is also very down right now
I feel like we would have said it in other chapters
we just didn't know it yet
I think we've said
We've said.
Yeah, I'm just saying we would have said it for other POVs.
We just, like, didn't know it in 2018.
Oh, my God.
I was so young.
Barriston reports that plague is spreading among the young kai host,
potentially weakening them, and he kind of presents it as a strategy, which it's not.
Danny thinks of Quaith's warnings while he's saying this,
and she thinks of the pale mayor and the son's son, Quinton.
Barriston tells her, hey, there is another road.
You could go down the Dornish Road.
Oh, my God.
The Dornish Trio were at the wedding feast.
And they were, of course, seated as far as possible from her husband.
Barriston comments, hey, they are really noble.
I fought with Lewin.
Prince Lewin was the shit.
He was a good fucking guy.
Danny is what he says.
And he boasts of Quentin's bloodline and his loyalty to the Targaryans.
And she's like, yeah, he brings parchment, not swords, and he should return home.
Barrison argues, well, he can't go home empty-handed.
And Danny thinks, well, he'll die here then, which is, yeah, that's true.
All the same, she tells Barrison to fetch him, and Danny decides to take Quentin to meet her children.
Yeah, so I think she's right about Quentin.
He did.
He did just show up with parchment.
It's kind of like that song from 3LW.
I'm getting a little tired of your broken promises, promises.
Promises, promises.
Looking at your page.
No more.
The precursor to the Cheetah Girls 3LW, just a reminder.
Yeah, the proto Cheetah Girls.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, fuck, my phone.
The ore cheetah girls.
Oh, my God.
I should leave that in.
Yeah.
So there's a line here that I thought was interesting where she goes, she thinks about like how every child knows its mother, whether she's like bringing Clinton down there with the dragons, she's hearing them calling to her.
I'm like, on one hand, it makes me think of like, oh, so Aria will recognize Lady Stoneheart. Every child knows its mother, right?
But on the other hand, on the other hand, I'm thinking about John Snow, another Targaryen who was a child who does not know his mother.
I really like what you've pulled out here, especially with the Aria Stoneheart.
And it makes me think of that Catalan line about Circe, right?
Like, let me show her how gentle of a fucking woman I can be.
Give me Circey Lannister in our room, which I would watch.
Yeah, I think it'd be interesting.
I would.
Would.
Yeah.
For fun.
My enjoyment.
In the dark pit, Viserian and Regal, who are introduced, turned their
burning eyes upon them.
Quentin is white-faced, afraid,
and he kind of hops backwards, and he's like,
where's the third dragon?
And she responds,
Drogon is hunting.
She tells him she means to ride one of them,
and she remembers Viseris telling her,
Agin only mounted his own dragon,
and his sisters only mounted their own,
that no rider ever flew two dragons,
which I know this is like a dragon lore drop,
but also it makes me wonder,
by point of text,
if she will go against that and she will end up being a rider of two of her dragons.
Because if anyone could do it, it would be her.
Yeah.
Like, George hasn't ruled it out.
I think, like, he said things like dragons have had multiple riders,
but no, rider has had multiple dragons, but he doesn't, like, ruled it out as a possibility.
If anyone could do it, it would be her.
Mostly because of how chronology works.
She's not like other girls.
Because the story is going forward, but also that.
He stammers that they are fearsome creatures, and she tells them, they are dragons, and so is she.
Prove it!
He says he has dragon blood, too.
Back to the first denaries, the sister to King Daron the Good, wife to the Prince of Dorn, who the water gardens were built for.
And she's like, I don't know much of Dornish history.
Which makes sense.
And so Quentin tells her he would love to show her the pink marble palace and pools and fountains at the sea someday.
She says, they're lovely, and thinks, hmm, maybe you don't belong here in Marine.
And she tells him to go home.
It's not safe at court for him here.
He made Dario look like a fool, and her husband watches him.
He argues that he is a prince of Dorn, and he will not run from slaves and sell swords.
I love this little passage.
I put this in mostly because I just, like, it's so sad, and she's already like a cynical old bitch like we are.
I love her.
Then you are truly a fool, Prince Frog.
Danny gave her wild children one last lingering look.
She could hear the dragons screaming as she led the boy back to the door
and see the play of light against the bricks reflection of their fires.
If I look back, I am lost.
It's like when I have to lock my cats away during a meeting
or right now they're locked in the other room.
I miss them so much.
Anyways, that night, after the guests leave, bring them out.
Allie, join us.
Yeah.
That night, after the guests leave,
Hisdar takes her to bed, first telling her,
he kept her peace and kept his promise.
Drunk and eager, he whispers,
May the gods grant us a sun.
But Danny only hears Miriamazdor's curse,
repeating in her head.
When the sun rises in the west and sets in the east,
After the very mediocre to poor sexual encounter with her husband, he rolls over, falls asleep drunk, Danny lies awake thinking of Dario.
I should have never taken him to my bed. I knew what he was.
So I have a lot of thoughts about this scene, I guess, with her in his dar where like, you know, I wonder if Danny could have refused his dar.
I am curious about the dynamics and the power within this marriage because I think she's living under the,
illusion right now, like, and she does still, like, have quite a bit of power, and we'll see that
happen in, like, you know, the Barrison chapters and how he deals with his dar, right? But
I'm curious about it, and I also think it's interesting that, like, among the options that she
considers, though, after his dar passes out, after this, she's, like, thinking about waking him
back up to hold her, kiss her, and slash or fuck her again. I'm like, wow, things are
bleak. She's like, I don't know. Yeah, I guess I can just wake him up. And like, I guess we can just
fuck again just to feel anything or not be alone. And the language from this is actually
almost literally exactly the same as language from Danny Seven. Addo-a-da. Oh, yeah. So this line says
her noble husband was seen fast asleep. Danny could only twist and turn beside him. She wanted to
shake him, wake him, make him hold her, kiss her, fuck her again. But even if he did, he would
fall back to sleep again afterward, leaving her alone in the darkness, which is also a call
back to Danny's dream, Danny's dream, right, of running down the hallway and the wind howling,
the icy wind howling and being left alone in the darkness.
Okay, so again, shake him, wake him, bake him.
Now, Danny said, she wanted to shake him, wake him, make him hold her, fuck her, help her forget.
yet, but she knew that if she did, he would only smile and yawn and say,
it was just a dream my queen go back to sleep in regards to Dario.
So she's in the state where it's so, she's just so lonely.
It doesn't matter.
She brought Dario in because she was lonely.
She's even willing for it to be fucking his dar and like, I've been there, girl.
Not proud to say it.
I've been there.
And then you get that dream at the end of the chapter.
She dreams of like smoke and fire.
Oh, my God, not your dream of spring.
You get her, like, dream lighter of smoke and fire, too.
So, like, I do wonder now that you've brought up her running in that first couple chapters
and dance when she dreams of her loneliness, basically, personified, but also not.
But when she dreams of that running, like, it's interesting to compare the two,
because then she's, is she getting glimmers of vision mixed with glimmers of her loneliness?
I don't know.
I'm really into my dreams lately, right?
Like, we've talked a lot about my powers.
and I've had a lot of dreams lately where I've had to wake up and pee
and things are so weirdly like subconsciously just strange that are happening
but I realize I'm like damn I really got a pee that is a major plot point going on
amidst all the craziness so like is she swirling the subconscious around
with a little bit of the visions and is that even affecting her further
we see characters that affects look at Darren the dreamer
right he could not function like a normal boy he turned to the drink in order to do so so i don't know
just thoughts just thoughts and also there's a little bit of a downward progression here right like
in danny seven she's like oh she wants him to wake up and fuck her but he'd only say it was just a dream
go back to sleep but then now it's become he would leave her alone in the darkness which becomes a
little more i don't know if desperate's the word but a little darker right like a little
like he doesn't want me, he doesn't need me, no one wants me, I'm alone. She's spiraling a little
into the darkness and she's also continuing to change what he's doing and cementing it as
truth, right, even though it hasn't happened, which I find interesting. She's deciding what this
objective truth is to her and telling herself, even if I did, he would do X thing. Maybe it isn't.
Maybe you're closing yourself off to him. Well, I think like, I think also his dar probably would
do that. I think Daria would at least say the nice thing, right? But the line in eight is about
his Dar. And so I think it makes sense her to feel close off to him. But it's also like, dang.
But she's applying it to everyone. Yeah. No, I think so. And like, but it's her own husband who went
through all this fucking trouble, like, doesn't even want her. And we know, like, it's just sad,
but also, I don't know, you're talking about like all these things swirling in there. And I thought
you were going to say, like, I don't know, something else. I thought you were likening it to
like the swirling of the pee in your dreams.
And I was like, what the fuck is going on here?
But that's not where you went.
Yeah, I'm going to give you a swirly in my pee.
Oh, my God.
That's not where we went.
And yeah, I mean, it's possible that it is being mixed in those sorts of dragon dreams.
We see that it was likely much more prevalent in Targaryen.
So we thought, especially, you know, if Helena was a dreamer as well.
And, you know, like, she didn't turn to drink, but she had to develop a very intense special
interest so in bugs yeah well that's just maybe look at me that'll happen take the Tylenol that's how
I came out denarius has my god denarius has one too hers are dragons but she just hasn't been
partaking lately I loved worms when I was a kid yeah same I think we just I think we've probably
I think we've discussed that yeah I tried to save them during the rain because I thought they would
drown they were fine yeah I think they were like try to move them elsewhere yeah I
I would be like, oh, no, you gotta go somewhere
and that's not as drowny.
I would do that.
They're probably like, quit dishousing me.
I would do that.
I think I've told you all this.
And then I would, like, spit on them
because I was like, this will save them.
The moisture from my saliva.
And looking back on it, it probably hurt them.
Wow.
You were meant to watch Dune 2 or Dune Prophecy Season 2,
which is now in production.
Wait, is it?
I'm actually excited about that.
It's in production, baby.
I am too.
I'm, like, really lamely excited for our second Dune.
episode nap. Yeah, no, I actually
really liked. There's some things that were
like, that was weird and I don't know
about that choice, but
there were some things that I really liked about Dune
Prophecy. I'm, I only
care about Tula, probably.
She deserves the world.
Her son's like a weird girl. I like Valia, too, though.
No, I like Valia. You're right. I like Valia.
I think, like, Tula's son is like,
couldn't you have been cooler? Your mom's so
cool. Why do you suck so hard?
I know. It's so unfair. I really
do love Liza and Kat.
That's right, that's them
We just spoiled Dune Prophecy for everyone
Sorry, all
Go listen to our episode on it
Alone in the Darkness
Danny twists and turns
Thinking of Dario
And she's interrupted by a soft voice in the darkness
Missande asked after her
Saying she heard her crying
And Danny denies crying
Saying
She has everything she wished for
She's like
And they say she's so lucky
She's a star
She's a star
But she cry
Cry
Cry
cries of a
lonely heart.
Our lonely heart,
wow.
If there's nothing
missing.
If there's nothing
in my life
then why do these tears
Come at night.
Come at night.
We've been only
getting more musical
as the podcast has progressed.
Anyways,
She has everything she wished for, peace and her king.
But she asked Missande to stay and tell her about Noth all the same.
Stay, said Danny.
I do not wish to be alone.
His grace is with you.
Miss Ande pointed out.
His grace is dreaming, but I cannot sleep.
On the morrow I must bathe in blood.
The price of peace.
She smiled wanly and patted the bed.
come sit talk with me if it please you missonde sat down beside her what shall we talk of
home said danny nath butterflies and brothers tell me of the things that make you happy the things that make you giggle
all your sweetest memories remind me that there is still good in the world missonde did her best she was still
talking when Danny finally felt asleep
to dream queer, half-warm
dreams of smoke and fire.
The morning came
too soon. Damn,
not dawn.
I went that direction because you
went like also a little girl voice and I have to be
I was like I have to be even more little
girl voice. I have to be even
more like, you know, and like you were talking
about the weird look. I was like I have to be even
more that.
So that was the artistic
choice that I made in that
scene. Nice. I think that was beautiful. Thanks.
I don't think so based off of your reaction.
But
it was
a choice that I will stick with
and that gives it artistic integrity.
So I think there's some interesting things here like multiple times now.
Missande has been hearing things right
she thought she heard Danny screaming
a few chapters ago
she's just getting her brains fucked out
and
now she's like hearing
Danny crying and her
allegedly hearing the Astapori
trying to claw in at night and I'm like what is she
hearing? I mean
I do think she was hearing
Danny screaming from Dario
fucking her brains out
as well as Danny crying
from loneliness of having to
a slaver in order to somehow free the slaves.
Question mark.
Except now they're slaving again because slaver's going to slave in Slaver's Bay.
So, but I'm just saying, to be fair, but I like what you're, are you tinfoiling?
Are you?
You know, a girl thought she was doing some tinfoil.
She thought she had something, but I think you're right.
She did actually hear those things.
The implication is that DeNeres was crying.
It wasn't like shown in the.
dialogue but like it wasn't shown in the like narration but it's shown through this dialogue she's
like no and like we're supposed to we're supposed to piece that together but i was like wow
missonde's got powers for something like a lot of people do think that though i know people do
think i mean like we questioned it literally just like a chapter ago but i mean you never know
maybe she does but also the dragons are easily explained because as like the noise that missonde hears
do you think it's the dragons because we went to go visit the dragons and there were like slashes taken out of the stone.
Which again, just like my cats, just like my cats.
Probably wouldn't be that quiet, dude.
That's true.
They're probably not.
If cats can do it.
I'm a light sleeper, so I get it.
Yeah.
Like, low key, my bathroom doors have chunks taken out of them by my cats.
So just to give you structural conceptual parallels here,
a dragon could probably take swipes out of stone.
And the cats do also eat grout.
Oh, my God.
Not anymore, because there's no more grout to eat, because he ate it all.
Because he ate it all.
Fuck, yeah.
Because he ate it all.
Hell yeah.
Fucking Jeharis, dude.
The worst.
Once upon a time, I started writing this essay and then I never wrote it.
And I don't know that I feel like writing it anymore.
So we're going to condense it down to like three lines.
Get it.
Get it.
Because I don't feel like making it a whole thesis anymore.
But it's an ongoing thing, right?
And Dennery's a storyline where everyone thinks she's the princess in the tower.
She's the prize.
And in a way, like, she is in some ways a princess in the tower.
But they don't think she's the person that she's going to claim so that they can, like, fulfill
the end of their story, right? Jora
sees her as a reward for like
all these things. Like, I did all these things.
I earned your love.
Quentin clearly, he thinks that this is his
adventure. He's like, I'm going to do it. I'm going
to marry the beautiful princess and we're going to
fucking save everything because I did that.
And even his dars probably like,
I did it. I saved the city. I got
the beautiful princess.
Victorian obviously seems to think this
in regards to his storyline as well.
Even Uron likely does.
And they've all got it wrong.
They've all got it wrong, right?
Like, because, of course, like, I'm going to quote the song that's very viral right now on the, on the internet of, like, every time a man writes a song, he's a cowboy, a sailor.
Victorian actually is a sailor, but...
Oh, is this Sabrina?
No, this is that Annabelle Dinda's song that I sent you, though.
Oh, the one you...
Every time a man writes a song, he's a cowboy, a sailor, which I feel is very swap-coded in some ways, and yeah.
So, like, they all think that it's about them.
But no, De Neri's, she's the main character of this story.
Like, the men aren't even her reward.
They're not, they're literally not a reward.
Like, what the fuck kind of reward are they?
They're not worth that.
They're just side characters.
And, again, not a reward.
They're actually even just the means for her to even be able to achieve what she's
trying to achieve.
Oh, fun.
We never looked for a princess.
Exactly.
Wow, I get you.
What a good essay I understood
The essay that I'm just like not going to write
I don't I just do not care for it anymore
You can't write that and the award-winning musical
That's going to be Robert's Rebellion
In a funny like title of like your princess is in another tower
And she's not your princess either
Because you know they keep searching for her
And they never fucking get to her
Pretend you all read this essay
It's a her! It's a dart
Wait, what?
Yeah, exactly
That's what I'm saying.
Wow, we were meant for each other.
We did it.
We wrote the essay, kind of.
We copy-pasted it together.
We did it.
With the help of Annabel Dinda.
Thank you, Annabel.
Yeah, things suck.
This is a shitty wedding.
Diva down.
Like, Diva is down.
Danny did not ate.
No, she didn't.
I'm really hoping things, you know, look up for her.
In the next chapters.
Like when she's on Derry.
Yeah. Honestly, this is a bad thought. Like, the Yonkish getting sick. It's not a strategy
if you threw them also over the wall, which has happened in the past. Oh my God. I'm just saying.
Yeah. Just get a catapult. It'll be fine. It'll be fine. We've seen it in the story already.
Yeah. Threats work. I think I'd be a bad ruler.
Well, I'm not electing you. That's for sure. Yeah. I'm not running.
I run in
I've only seen you run once
in your life and it is not now
I used to be good but I'm more
it's not I gotta work on my cardio y'all
out of practice out of practice
I get it
I'm big on cardio these days I'd be walking
I'd be going everywhere
I don't know what it is but I'm just out there
I can walk I've been power walking out there
oh yeah I went like six miles
every day last week
Wow I was crazy I was like
who are you girl
Yeah.
Yeah, my legs were feeling it.
Weather's nice right now.
Well, not right now, but it was nice last week.
Last week, it was very nice.
It was the con before the storm.
Last week was amazing weather.
I miss it.
I want it back.
Tomorrow's supposed to be nice.
Tomorrow's we've seen 60s.
That's what Quaith told me.
We'll see about that.
We'll see about what Quaith tells us next week.
Wait, do you ever think about Quaith, but then you're like quief?
I might have, but I didn't, I haven't thought about that then like in a while.
And now I will.
I will think about that always and think of you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
And I hope that you guys think of us, too.
I hope you all think of us and that you're having a great time.
We will be back with Danny 9 next because, you know, 7, 8, 9.
And then the big one, Danny 10.
and you're going to find out what's next for us in between Tyrion and Danny.
It's a surprise.
We can't wait to tell you.
Eliana, where can they find us on social media?
I had the worst thought.
Not because, like, would have quefed like a thunder clap.
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I kind of forgot my space out there for a second, but I remembered in the end.
You're just dissociating casually.
Well, no, I was just, like, really engrossed.
I was, like, thinking about something.
And then also I was, like, what am I going to see at the end?
Then I got, like, then I, like, missed my cue.
I was also, like, I don't know, you were talking about, what are we going to do after Danny 10, Addooda?
And I think, like, the obvious answer.
we're going to do Danny 1, T.W.
And then Danny 2, T.W.
Because, like we said earlier,
it's under your chairs.
We did it.
See you next time.
Bye.
Goodbye.
