Girls Gone Canon Cast - ASOIAF Episode 274 — AGOT Tyrion II

Episode Date: March 27, 2026

To the window, to the Wall: Tyrion goes the Upper Peninsula of Michigan. Eliana's reddit account: https://www.reddit.com/user/glass_table_girl Eliana's blog: https://themanyfacedblog.wordpress.com/ Chloe's twitter: https://twitter.com/liesandarbor Chloe's blog: liesandarborgold.com Intro by Anton Langhage

Hello and welcome to Girls Gone Canon. Reads a Song of Ice and Fire. Episode 274. Tyrion 2 in a Game of Thrones. I'm one of your hosts, Chloe. And I'm another one of your host, Eliana. Thank you, everyone, for allowing us this little break in this lapse. Last week in your regularly scheduled programming, we did exactly what we've been telling

Littlefinger to do for years. Chloe and I both, we got a job at various times in the past year. We're big girls now, you know? We're big girls. It's rough. Big girls don't cry. We did get new jobs. We're girl bossing, girl bossily.

So thank you for the bit of grace and not to brag, but also, I got to see Eliana last week. Thanks to traveling for my big girl job. Love that. Want to do more of that? I mean, no, obviously we get paid millions of dollars from the HBO truck every single day. And they back it up to our houses. Wait, wait, wait.

Do you hear that? Beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep. That's the truck right now. They're coming to dump the million dollars at my front door. You should be there too. Yeah. You know what I think of sometimes when I think of trucks? The truck that you're supposed to move in front of the SSN at what is it?

Yeah, to get the Mew. Yeah, yeah. Yes. To get the Mew. Yeah, I know. Exactly. Yeah. Everyone knows that and it never worked for me, but I tried it every time.

It doesn't work, but there is in fact in the Game Boy. Surrelian City in the North. Yes, it's real. That one's real. I did it. I've done that one. That's the only way I've ever gotten the Mew. But yeah, the SS Vermillion, that's a fucking joke.

That's a fucking large. No, it is. I remember beating it in like guides and stuff. I'm sorry, I'm like Pocopia Pillard right now. So I'm like reliving all this stuff. But yeah, Surlian City. It's also good because when you catch that Mew, It's like level seven, so it's like of a decent level along with the rest of your Pokemon and team at that time.

You can like age up together, grow together. Yeah, they could put it in the front and just switch. Let them grow like brothers or whatever the line is. What if John Snow was a pro-cloan? I guess we're all proto-clones when you think about it. Oh, proto. I think you said Frodo. And I was like, what the fuck?

I mean, maybe. Who knows? Maybe. It's great to be back with you all. Thanks for giving us that break. We clearly fucking needed it. I want to watch Eliana play Pocopia. Are you guys at home playing Pocopia yet? Do you have your switch to? I don't. Eliana is Pocopiying. She's Pocopiying all over town. I want to hear your experiences. Send them in and we can talk about it next week with Eliana. I found my graphics card. I could try. I don't know, but I don't know if any of my computers are like strong enough to stream

the Pocopian switch from that to It does take a lot. Yeah, I don't know, I don't know. I don't have to say, I don't think I could. I found mine a while back, and it was a whole ordeal to honestly set it up. So if you figure it out, show us. For those of you at home wondering, what will the girls be talking about? Over at patreon.com slash girls gone canon

for all patrons in the stranger tier and above this month, question mark, question Question mark. Well, I'm here to tell you. Yeah, you want that burning question answered. My answer is Mocking J, Part 1A. That's right. That's fucking right. We're back on that Suzanne Collins shit. We are in the first part, the first act, which is Act 1, the Ashes as we figure out how to have Katness lead this rebellion, even though her whole world has fallen apart.

It's going to be terrible, can't wait. Yeah, she's not truly leading. We'll discuss it. Actually, for a second, there was like part 1A. I was like, there will be a part 1B. I was like, what if there's a part 1C? I don't know. Anything could happen.

It's a dense book. A lot of things happen. It is dense, though. It's like a very mature book. It's much more mature than its predecessors in a lot of ways. Yeah. Well, if you want to discuss that or just talk to us, you know, you can on the Discord, which is available for patrons.

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Hook it up. All right. We got an email from our friend Raj. Really excited to jump into this one. They're sending us amazing photos of horses with it as well. So, like, you can just imagine you are seeing the horses, but you're not because you're not me. Yeah, probably not. Um, so we, we will, we will continue.

We will continue to stagger. I know many of you have written in, but Chloe and I are tired right now. We are getting back on that horse. If you will. If you will. And here is, here is what Raj has said to us, in all caps, I am so stoked. We are at Tyrion. I can't say, finally, because we all feel a little funny being at this temporary pause.

It's certainly not an end, as I am an optimist. This was much of a discussion for me and Chloe when we were together in person. We were like, what's going to happen? What's going to happen with life? As you're aware, horses are the majority of my personality. Sim, I've seen parallels to a character's sense of honor and their relationship to their horse or horses in general. I am so excited to start towards the veil.

I'm obsessed with the idea that, one, Jamie gave Tyrion the horse, modeled to him what Ed Knight's sense of honor should be, no matter how warped the interpretation is, and two, the horse dies so early in the story. Getting absolutely shit on at Liza's was the first of the specific bundle of straws that would eventually break his back. Tyrion's moral decline devastates me. We can all empathize with good deeds seemingly, punishing the deed-doer, i.e. post-blackwater, rage bait.

Trying your best and doing an objectively good job. And none of it matters. Continuing down the king's road on the horse I rode in on the saddle references. In English, riding, not cowboys, there's a popular kid's saddle called an inky-dinky. And when Tyrion describes having created his own saddle, I imagine that looked a bit like this. At first, given my contemporary real-world reference, I giggled to think of Tyrion in an inky-dinky. However, if we take a look at older cavalry saddles, it's not a huge visual leap from what tack of Tyrion's contemporaries were likely riding in. I've attached pictures of the infamous, inky-dinky, as well as a cavalry saddle for comparison.

and for the record, horses, greater than simple, ponies, even for smaller riders. A pony's short legs can create a choppy, uncomfortable ride when trying to go at the pace of a pack of horses. So, Turing having to ride a pony would be embarrassing and quite tedious on a few levels. Thank you very much, Raj. Yeah, Raj did again include the pet pick tribute of Inky Dinky. two ponies Romeo and Fluffy who are both hardened criminals and finally Gretchen

beautiful I love this email I love when Raj sends us a good email this is a good thing one I love how stoked Raj is about Tyrion obviously same and I love this overarching view kind of of Tyrion's relationship with knighthood right

like his older brother gives him this whole entire manifestation of knighthood of being a knight the thing Tyrion's never been able to like succeed to be in Westrosy society and that that horse is fucking dead immediately that dream is dead that idea is dead I think we're going to come back to a lot of that this this chapter this episode but really great call was also taken very much at Raj's attempt to make me start singing no good deed from wicked by talking about good

deeds and deeds doers yes I'm jamming right. now. Are you not? Like, you read that and I was like, I don't know the songs well enough because I still think I'm going to see it all in context one day. You know me. I want to do it in context. Yeah. So. No, I would love to go see Wicked. Should we see Wicked together? I haven't seen it since I was a teenager. I mean, because I'm down to just, I feel like I should at least just watch the movie too. Yeah. But I think I'm waiting to do that with my mom. Oh, yeah.

I think that's what I'm doing. Okay. Okay. It sounds bad that I'm not sure. Can you figure that out for me? She voiced an interest in it. So I thought that that's what we were doing at some point in our lives, mother and I. We'll find out.

Yeah, we'll find out. But yeah, thank you very much, Raj. Yeah, it was a great analysis. I didn't really thought about the way the horse operates as part of, Tyrion's character development in relationship with Jamie, so very cool. And also, I just liked saying inky-dinky. So that was fun.

Adorable. And cute that Raj has inky-dinky herself, a horse. I named that. And also really love what Raj pointed out about, like, Tyrion's being discriminated against if he's offered a pony. Like, that is a lesser experience, right? Like, what are you going to do?

Offer, like, a tiny cart to him instead of, like, a Jeep or instead of, like, a GMC huge truck or you know like I see now I see that this is you know got it and it's you know it's about like building equity not just equality right it's like equity and equality

like it's not just like now everything's equal no it's building a world where it's equitable to all involve like there should be accommodations for Tyrion if the lords can't even provide accommodations for Tyrion why are they lords Well, besides even like the part where like it's insulting to do so, part of me does kind of wonder like if George doesn't realize that it is a worse physical experience, like more painful. Like I'm not saying it was right of the other like people to make Tyrion ride on a pony. But there is an aspect of me that thinks George like was he just doing it solely for the insulting aspect and not really thinking about how much more painful it would be as well.

so it was just pure insult. Interesting, especially because he's pretty clear about the pain Tyrion goes through in this chapter, right? I think that's really clear and other chapters, but. I kind of forgot if he continues it through the rest of Tyrion's chapter. So I'm excited to see because it is so clear in these early ones. I'm curious. I'm curious as we go through. It doesn't need to be constant, but it'd be interesting to take note.

It's why I just don't remember. Yeah. Yeah. Shout out also to. to Clay, who is going through the episodes right now. He's leaving great comments, and they're kind of like chronological. So he just recently commented on the Adawada epilogue with Steph Lioness when they were on with us. And Clay is continuing the favored 20 Good Men joke in his comment.

Thank you, Clay. I also just like added that one to our notes list. We have of phrases. We asked recently our Discord for their help and giving us their favorite. favorite GGC or MGC, if you're woke, it's MGC now. Yeah, we're Men Gone Cannon. Yeah. Get woke, bitches.

But yeah, so, you know. That's the equity that Chloe was talking about. Stop. I'm the worst. Yeah, within like two breaths, I completely shattered it, right? So we asked Discord what their favorite Mengon Canon quotes are. And just because, like, there's this meme that I really want to do and we were going to do it together but we were out of HP we were out of stamina we

couldn't get it done um we'll do it eventually we'll do it eventually we will we're going to do this meme but it's the meme where you put like months yeah yeah you put like the quote on your phone but you put it on your forehead so you don't see it but the person across from you sees it and they have to like pictionary style describe it without saying it to you until you get it and it has to be a quote you're commonly saying like things that we're always saying so our discord gave us a bunch We had a handful we already had added, and I just added the 20 good men to that list, because I do feel that comes up a lot. I mean, it does only because George Briggins, I was furious when I realized that was a real thing that he does. It's canon. I was like, this is fucked up.

It's so fucked up when D&D are accidentally, like, right about stuff. I know. I know. So fucked up. Also, I will say, like, besides it being fun, Clay's not the only person who's done this, but, like, seeing people, you know, do their read-through. or not listen through whatever and then like leave their comments as they go through the episodes. I do feel kind of like when we leave these and these shoutouts, I feel like an NPC, you know, leaving the little quest clues, right, as someone makes their way through their journey or something.

So I'm like, oh, I left this thing here. I left this little note here for you to pick up when you get here. Hey, that's like why we do it for the historians, you know. Someday folks will be the historians for us. They're doing it as we go. Like how I'm piecing it together what happened in Pocopia. Yeah.

Also, a couple of great comments that were left on Spotify. Derek J. commented on Brand 1 Aga. Wow. Ned respected Targaryens enough to listen to John's prophecy talk. Also on Brand 2 ACOC. Derek, me, Eliana, teach me to speak horse.

Eliana, nay. You must have been neighing in this episode that sounds like you actually. And finally, Coach Pierre on Agat Tyrion 1 commented wolf. You know, woof, Chloe Woof, I think specifically. It's a very, add that one to the notes list, shit. So you're talking about Wolf Hall and, yeah. Woof Hall.

Yeah. Woof, woof hall. Yeah. If you haven't read Wolf Hall, you should. I said it last week, but do it again. Someone else said we should be covering it, and I'm like, actually, yeah, we should cover Woof, Wolf Hall. I forgot if I brought this up last episode, but I think.

You know that our friend Mighty Isabel, who used to do some Mastra Monthly episodes with me as well as, you know, co-modded, along with a bunch of us, the Asong of Ice and Fire subreddit, did that with like one of her book clubs a few months ago. So. So good. So good. There you go. First guest. Boom. Boom.

Oh, interesting. Podcast is made for us. Made for us. Well, thankfully, we have many chapters to go. Till we need to think about that. So thank you, friends. for, you know, telling us. We did get a couple comments about series.

We should cover, like, the expanse will fall. We have many chapters to go till we have to figure all that out. That's true. Let's talk about some of those chapters, yeah, that we already did. Oh, my God, we've already done these chapters. We've done every single one of these in the lightning round. That's crazy. I didn't really wrap my head around that before.

From now on, it's going to be like that. That's the reality. Damn, damn, damn. All right. We're starting the Tyrion 2, again. Game of Thrones lightning round with John too, where John says his goodbyes in

Winterfell, some sweet, some bitter. Aw. De Nerees, too. De Nerees wed Strogo. Hooray. Fun times were had by all. Eddard too. More fun times. Eddard and his old best friend

have a difference in opinion. Eddard thinks you should not murder teenage girls who have done nothing wrong, and Robert does not. I mean, that was a crazy hot take on dead's part. Crazy. Crazy hot tape.

And that brings us here to Tyrion 2 in a Game of Thrones. John and Tyrion strike up a friendship even more as they go deeper into the north. Oh, their friendship deepens as the North deepens. I'm not going to say it, but gay. Two guys in a hot tub sitting six inches apart because they're just friends. Yeah. Not gay. The North went on forever.

we open up the chapter with Tyrion knew the maps as well as anyone but a fortnight on the wild track that passed for the Kings Road up here had brought home the lesson that the map was one thing in the land, quite another. This is the difference

between the lower peninsula of Michigan and the upper peninsula of Michigan and I'm so glad you're all here to talk about it that the north is Michigan. Michigan is Winterfell, the UP is beyond the wall, right?

So if I say I live up north in Michigan, no, no, no, no. No, upper peninsula. Oh, oh, sorry. I didn't realize that's what UP said for. I'm behind. What? I'm behind.

Oh, my God. Send her back to geography. Open the schools. I'm giving you a geography lesson here. I was confused. That's what UP means in my life. The UP is beyond the wall, is all. You know, that's a, yeah, you get past, like,

the macanaz of the world and just everything passed there is the beautiful free wild north and that's your geography lesson about the Midwest today. Class at home argue with the wall. I will not be hearing discussion on this topic. I get it. I think. Yes. Yeah.

Yes. Michigan looks like this, Eliana. You can't see it guys at home. It's bear versus shark. Bear versus sharks. This is beyond the wall. This is the UP. This is UP and then this is lower peninsula LP.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You're there. You've got it. You understand the practical and the theory, and I think you just have to execute, you know, and realize. Inside of you, there is a barrens of shark, and they are Michigan. So the king had left, and so they did too.

They leave when the king leaves. They take the king's rude. But they are turning north, where Robert and company is going south. Benjin and John keep very quiet company for Tyrion, and we get a little bit of the lay of the land. To the west are Flint Hills. That's where the flints live. Get it. To the east, lower land that flattens into a rolling plain.

From Winterfell, you know, the road's not empty. There's still some travelers, and at night they actually find what Tyrion calls rude inns to stay in. Three days out from Winterfell. the farmlands are denser they become dense wood and thickets of forest and the road begins to grow lonely with the hills rising higher and wilder until finally it turns to cold blue-gray mountains topped with snow benjamin calls this forested area the wolf's wood and their knights do come alive with the howls of distant and also not so distant wolves so regarding the rude ins because i saw that low-key

this is a hot take on my part I think the copy you and I have might have a typo part of me wonders if it's supposed to say crude yeah yeah I think the copy that Chloe and I are working off of might have a typo to put that out there on the internet

some of the imagery here is fun in this section it's fun coming back to the beginning of a Game of Thrones in general with these characters and seeing all the world building again but also like the language really evokes what's to come in the story right like the mountains are described as looking like giants with snow on their shoulders i'm like ha ha it's funny because it's a reread and i know we're going to see giants and then you also have this whole thing about like icicles and they're described like banners flopping in the wind and like ah ha ha like war so cute yeah i like the um the literal lay of the land as well too you know like that we literally are seeing how it's laid out. I think that's really cool.

You know, to the left is this. To the right is this. It gives you really a great sense of how wide, big blue sky and, you know. Yeah. Yeah. To the right, to the left, to the window, to the wall. To the sweat drop down here. Tyrion's balls. Honestly, this does work for Tyrion's storyline. Yeah. Ghost breaks his ears up at there's howling, but in his own unsettling way, never howls back. Some of the stuff here with this and like ghosts later in the chapter, I kind of wonder, is this a first bookism around like the 93 letter and what Tyrion's storyline was supposed to be like when he was going to be the one to take Winterfell and not Theon. And him thinking of ghosts and settling and how when we see him interact with the other dire wolves later on, there's an animosity behind it. But I mean, like, I think Tyrion could still be a bad guy to Winterfell. Like there's still the invasion.

Yeah, it depends. you know, like enabling someone or empowering an idea is also bad. Yeah. Well, I think I could see him pressing. I think I could see him trying to press a claim via marriage with Sonsa. Yeah. Yeah. But I could see.

I don't know how he's going to have all that time, though. I don't know anymore. But Raj is an optimist, so. Raj still has the buzz for it, so we do too. I mean, so do we. You and I still, it's, we believe. leave. Oh no, we're so naive. Stupid girls who never learn. I'm a stupid girl who never learns. My God. Wait, hold on. What's the line? Um, I'm a slow learn. When she, yeah, that too, right? I'm a slow learner. But I learn. But also, fucking, when she turns her head and sentences Lord Baylish. So funny to me, it gets me every time.

You pulled that, you sent me a meme of that recent. right of them saying Lord Bailish Lord Blood Raven or whatever What was it that you said it? Yeah oh my God Wait which one was this the Yes yes yes hold on

That killed me It is important I need to read this meme out loud for everybody Because it's really important It's that important I was funny Eliana a lot of memes the other day You were She was like I'm back

I was really in the zone I'm back in the zone I'm back in line down You This is from comic curated Lola on Twitter who tweeted using Blood Raven like chat GPT

as decaying and then quote retweeted it and it said me across the room at full volume Blood Raven is this true Oh I thought this was a I thought this was a riff off of that scene with like Sons and Aria So in my head Maybe that's funnier if it is I guess

I don't know is it I know I think I just don't remember that scene in that season and I will never revisit it. So I think I made that up in my head. And it was really funny in the context that I interpreted it. Look, the only thing that you ever need to watch again from that is the look what you made me do music video. Aria and Sons. It's my favorite one.

That's all you have to do. If you watch that, it satisfies the urge to watch any episode of Game of Thrones. Except for Blackwater. I can watch that shit on repeat every day of my life. Interesting. This is a fun little RPG. party we have going on. There are eight people, two Lannister men, Benjin, John, the mounts,

and they pick up three Black brothers at a forest holdfast. Yorin, who's described as stooped and sinister, joins, as well as two ragged peasant boys who Yorin calls rapers. Tyrion understood, life on the wall was said to be hard, but no doubt it was preferable to castration. Yeah, probably. We have this ongoing theme throughout, like, especially the first book. and when you see the lanister is looking all beautiful, right, of Can't Judge a Book Byts cover,

which probably hit like really hard in the 90s, and Yorin looking very sinister and worn. But the story shows him, of course, to be really caring. He's gruff, but he's like, he's a stand-up guy, as we all know. And I mean, like, the implications of the word sinister, right? It's not good. But Turian, of course, knows better than to assume ill of Yorin by that as someone for whom many assume bad things about him based off of his appearance. And in this moment, like, obviously, John is becoming disillusioned with the songs and the idea of the watches he sees Yoran. He's like, whoa, that doesn't look like a hero. But we know from Yorin and his travels with Aria, he is a hero. He is a hero. Lice and all, apparently he's covered in lice, and I kind of forgot that in the

Aria chapters. I was like, I don't know, there's yours. He's probably clean. It is interesting seeing him again this way. I didn't remember the the such, like, edgy interpretation of this character that Tyrion's giving us. You make great points. The don't judge a book by its cover motif is going on a little bit, right? Literally, like, we start the book with him reading a book. And then Tyrion walks through life, kind of, like, taking people's appearances and telling us, oh, this person is this, this person is that.

I mean, we even see it soon with Braun, right? Where he takes a trusty new sidekick in Braun. And yeah, the Yorin callout's great. There's more of that in this chapter. And also, Rast is one of the three in this crew. So call out that Rast is here. He's here. He's here.

He doesn't get upgraded to a name yet, but he is here. Here comes the boy. Oh, no, boy. Get out of here. And here comes the five men, three boys, a dire wolf. 20 horses, 20 good horses. 20 amazing horses. 20 great verses and the cage of ravens.

Unknown quantity. Tyrion sees John observing Yorin and his companions with an uncomfortable look on his face. Yorin is old, sour smelling, and his hair is matted, greasy, and full of lice. And his recruits smell worse. Clearly, John had thought the night's wash would be full of benjins. And if so, Yorin and his companions were a very rude awakening. Tyrion feels sorry for John. He chose a hard life.

Honestly, John did. It's kind of fun that, like, the odd little group here makes for such a strange picture, right? A strange party. And it is an odd group. There's, like, just a bunch of randos. There's a couple starts,

a Lannister, and then Northern folk. It makes for quite the picture. And while they're all going through it now, and they all have to, like, get along for a handful of days, John is literally going through like a major life change that he chose, ish, asterisk, didn't really have much of a choice. It was like joining the army or this, I guess, bro. He shouldn't have suggested it.

He would have had more choices. Yeah, no, absolutely. He could have, like, gone elsewhere, but we've talked about that in his movie. Tyrion is going through the horrors, like, every day of his life, you know? Also, like, guilt because he knows something is up with Brands not a death, right? Like, he's like, my siblings were deaf involved. Like, there's definitely something going on that my siblings really want this kid dead more than they want kids dead usually. And then Benjian's also going through the horrors, like every day of his life.

And then there's Yorin. Who knows what's up with him? I mean, he's full of lice, bro. That can't be comfortable. So, you know, a lot going on in this party and the rapers. No one cares what they think, obviously, or how they feel. But they're out there. They're cold.

It's not a great time. Like, this is kind of, like, the worst road trip. Like, I don't know. I feel like that's got to be like a personal choice on like Yorin's part, because I feel like I've never gotten the impression that everyone else is not bathing at the watch. But he's like on the road on the road. That's true. Like his job is to travel.

I'm not saying like don't take a bath, but when you're doing like week after week travel, you might let some shit slip once in a while. Yeah, yeah. Plus he had to go pick up these people from like Lord knows where travel. So yeah. Yeah. I was just like... He's not joining them from a vacation.

No. But I will say I saw your note of like not a death. That killed me. Thank you. I thought it was a good one. George writes on it. He had rather less sympathy for the uncle. Benjyn Stark seemed to share his brother's distaste for Lannisters.

And he had not been pleased when Tyrion told him of his intentions to go to the wall. Oh, the irony, though. There's this great bit of, like, Like, you know, oh, Tyrion feels sorry for John, who chose a hard life here and made like this terrible choice at 14. But also I'm like, it's funny that he doesn't feel bad for Benjyn. When Benjin did that same thing. Like, true. We're past the point of me caring about what actually is canon or not.

And this is a declaration of canon. So I guess you all, I have the microphone. So you have to listen. First of all, you can all make your own podcast. Yeah, you can't. I dare you. I dare you. I dare you.

No, seriously. Everyone can. No, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I believe in other podcasts. Do it. Let's see what happens. It's almost a threat when you say it that way, I guess. Yeah, I was like, what happened to me? I'm happy. I'm happy. I've taught people about it. Yeah. Same. I taught men to fish and now they teach men to fish too. Men gone canon. Wow, today, every day. I think it's just pretty clear that like Benjin chose the wall with clear regret. and shame about something that happened in his life. And he says to John when they have their chat together, like, John, you don't know what you're giving up. You might think this is it, but you can't take it back. Like, you could have a life.

And it seems Benjin and his brother, yes, they're, they're, you know, brothers, they're bros, but, like, they aren't like close, close, close relationship, right? you don't see him chit-chatting so closely and lovingly all the time when they're together. Like, I don't know. I think there's a reason little Mr. Benjin went to the wall, and I happen to think it has something to do with his sister, who was, quote, unquote, kidnapped by the prince, and then maybe, quote, unquote, could have married him in secret,

which probably is also fucking true. So I'm just saying, I think Benjin made a pretty hard choice at one point, too, and I think that's how he knows that John might be missing out and choosing a life. And I don't know. Who knows why the fuck? But I'm pretty sure it's like, Leanna's dead. Others played a part in that death.

And Ned chose to keep the lie about John and keep John private. Like, I'm 99% sure in my heart of hearts of all hearts. Benjin literally knows John's parentage. Benjin knows who John is. Benjin knows John isn't Ned's. He knows that. Yeah. Come on.

I think so. And plus, like, it's not just Leon is dead. Their older brother died. Oh, yeah, right, them too. I forget about them. Those people died because Leon also disappearing. Yeah, like all of these dominoes in a row fell. So it's just very ironic to me that, like,

Tyrion's like, oh, poor John, I feel so bad from fuck Benjin, though. And I'm like, damn, Benjans probably got it real fucking hard. You just have no clue, which is good. No one needs to know. You know, it's a secret. I guess Tyrion just assumes he's like, this is just like what Starz State. this is just what they do in the north when you're like the fourth son, though technically now he's like the second. And he's also just like, I think Benjamin made that hard choice.

I don't know that he should have made it at that age. But also there's kind of a little more justification behind it than like when John does it. And same as how I'm like, I don't know if people should like be picking their whole life path at 18 years old. Like that's even now I'm like, that's too young. You can't know the world and what you want to fucking do at 18. There's no way you can know it at 14. No way you can know it at 14. I mean, some people do when they find their calling.

I'm 22 and I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, some people find their calling and they know when they do it and like good for them. Yeah. You know, like maybe they're like, I don't know. A prodigy at something. But it's like it's so early in your life.

No one can truly know where life will take us. I don't know, man. Just the guilt. Like, you know. Like, could you have. imagine living too coming home and knowing in your heart of hearts the truth and knowing your brother and knowing there's no fucking way that he sired a bastard in these last nine months like I know him I know what he wasn't doing he was not doing that and then like having to live with it of course

you'd leave and go to something else you can't live at your brother's house because your brother's insane now with trauma you're like oh shit you are fucked up bro I'm fucked up too like isolate yourself which ironically becomes like maybe the pattern for the future starts oh yeah true He's like, okay, the rest of my family died. I want a new family now. He's like, to the window. To the wall. To the wall.

He was probably like holding John and being like, well, in the time frame that everything happened. It could be Leonnas and it probably is. And he's like staring at this baby like, hmm. I mean, he was with her when Ragar was like making her cry. That's a notable ASOS brand two thing to think about. off the top of your head every day of your life when you think about ASOS brand too every day which is what I do. Do you not? Tyrion doesn't know.

Tyrion doesn't know all that. He can't know. Trian hasn't read ASOS brand too. What is the point of him reading all of this if he can't even read that? That's crazy. Yeah. Okay, you can read the Engines of War but you can't read a song of ice and fire. Got on.

Take that. All right. So back to this fucking story. Benjin. was like, Tyrion, you piece of shit, you're not going to find ins at the wall. So you better get used to it now, motherfucker. And Tyrion's like, oh, I'll find somewhere to stick my small self. Thanks.

Benjin had promised that Tyrion would hate the ride. And by the end of the week, he's not wrong. Tyrion fucking did. He's sore his shit. He's chilled to the bone. But he doesn't complain because he refuses to give Benjin the satisfaction. That's right. Tyrion, Lannister, petty, spaghetti.

So, crazy thought, because this happens right after Dineries his wedding night and then the next chapter is about how fucking terrible it is living amongst the Dothraki, right? Parallels, parallels between Trian's soreness and the physical difficulties here riding to the wall and whatnot and Danny acclimating to the constant horsing around of Dothraki life. That's like being really flippant because part of it is like how terrible and difficult it is riding on the horse all the time but she was also being meritorily raped. which is a different thing. But anyway, if he's isolated to just the horse part.

Anyways, regarding, we're going to talk a lot about Tyrion's life as a Linister in this chapter. Regarding Tyrion's life, he's been pampered, of course, right, as a noble of one of the great houses, especially allegedly the richest one. That's also now a royal family. I think there's another aspect here in regards to Tyrion refusing to complain, refusing to give them the satisfaction of him complaining about riding on the horses because, you know, he is disabled, right?

His body is shaped differently. And that can, of course, intersect with, like, the chronic pain part. We don't really hear him talk about chronic pain all the time, but obviously it puts a strain on his body. And I think there's, like, a pressure here where he feels like he has to, like, hold that in because he'll be treated as, like, a burden otherwise. So he's like, no, I can do this too. I'm an adventure. Yep.

absolutely 1,000% he's real for that because that's how I am man I get it I'm like Tyrion but tall it sucks you're very the opposite height but yeah I'm like exactly like him except I'm tall

like my legs hurt like shit bro and you've read a song of ice and fire so that's not like Tyrion sucker yeah no dude like I'll hit my steps and I'll be so hyped and the next day I wake up and I'm like oh shit all of my joints are in flame bro

it shouldn't feel that way when you walk. Makes me sad. I get it. I get you, Tyrion. And I like, you know, yeah, you can't speak about it because you're already isolated as the odd one. You're already a Lanister. You have enough, like, social counts against you. You can't just go, like, be in complaining about it.

You got to suck it up. I feel that way all the time. I feel you, Tyrion. Yeah. And it's cold. It is. And cold does make pain. Sometimes cold can make pain less bad.

But sometimes cold can make it worse with, like, I don't know, rheumatism. and stuff. Inflammation. Yeah. So, yeah, things are bad in that way for Tyrion, who also, of course, hasn't really packed winter clothing. But thankfully, someone did offer him, Benjamin did offer him a musty,

smelling old riding fur from the night's watch, and he accepted it with a smile. And I get that, because I used to make the mistake of not dressing in enough layers and thick enough for the cold weather, and now I no longer do it. I think it's because my parents, like, you know, they thought, like, this was fine in the winter. And it was, it's okay, but it was like way colder.

I'm like, we got a fucking layer. We got to wear like more jackets. And in their defense, they came from a tropical country. So they wouldn't really get it. Even if they were here for a long time. They didn't internalize that. It's crazy too because like, yeah, Tyrion is like, yeah, this does fucking suck. But also like cold is one thing, right?

A cold day in Kings Landing. A cold day in a beautiful golden place, right? Like, that's different when the sun's up and it's good. but a cold day in Winterfell, a cold day in northern Michigan. Plus wet cold. Just to paint, yeah, and just to paint the picture, like, you know, all that beautiful weather that's happening on the West Coast in the last week and a half or so. For some of you that have gotten to enjoy that, if any of you have.

All of that golden weather, great, but at the same time, in the Midwest, it was like hailing, snowing. My parents' power in their entire neighborhood went out for like a day and a half. The Transformers blew. Everything was green like the blackwater. It was like not great. Everybody was snowed the fuck in and like there were two feet of snow on the ground. So like, yeah, that's kind of how I think about Winterfell, right?

Like in the north and also like getting up to the wall. Like shit's crazy out there. You know how much snowfall the UP got this year? Let's just take a Google. Snowfall. It's a good thing your mother was prepared. with her mill. Shut up.

She's so funny. Mom in her mill. She got a mill. Special guest host my mom got a mill. I know. I egged her on. I was like,

you should get a mill. So just in 2026, just from March 14th to 17th, snowfall totals around Michigan and Wisconsin. The highest totals up in the UP in Mount Arvin, Michigan and northern Wisconsin

were 40 inches of snow. 40 inches. That's crazy. I couldn't do it. I couldn't do it. I couldn't live there. That is. Absolutely not.

Like, Eliana, that's three and a third foot. That's over three feet of snow. That's crazy. So, I mean, just imagine. Like, they have their first snow day in the north and Westrose and, like, fucking good luck. Yeah. It's always like that there. Yeah.

Yeah. Well, by now, Stark was no doubt regretting his chivalrous impulse. perhaps he had learned a lesson. The Lannisters never declined, graciously or otherwise. The Lannisters took what was offered. I love that, and there's a little more we're going to keep talking about the Lannisters here,

but I think this is a great interpretation of being a Lannister and of the house. I think a lot of what the public opinion on the Lannisters is in this book, so like the takeaway is their greed and their vainness and da-da-da-da-da-da. That's also like not it, right? Tyrion, Circe, they're cunning.

They're shrewd. You even have like several lines all in a row here where like here he talks about how, yeah, Benjin hates me, but I'm the brother of a queen. And then later towards the end of the chapter, he's like, I think about killing my sister. But it gives us really good insight on him, especially to clash. Like his sister is his protector. The lanisters are bound together. They're super shrewd.

super calculating. They're resourceful, right? They take what they're given. They're very resourceful, which I think comes through very much in like the Circe chapters especially. I don't know what happened with Jamie, you know? Like, I think maybe he got bashed on the brain in ternies a little too much. I don't know.

Maybe he's just not like quite that like that. But he's a little resourceful. But Circe and Tyrion are the sharper swords, I feel like, when it comes to like plotting and cunning. He just doesn't do it as much. But yeah, a new meaning to Lannister pride, right? It's not just like greed and envy and being the queen and all these superficial things. No, they're actually schemers.

They're plotters. They're planners. And instead of like rejecting and freaking out when there are twists, they accept the twists. They're tricksters. And they had to be to get ahead because they didn't have like the same sort of stuff. Yeah. Jamie had going for him. But also in Taryn's defense.

In Zanza and Circe, I mean, when Sonsa goes to Circey, right? She's like, oh, what a gift I've been given. Yeah, that's true. She doesn't refuse it. In Turian's defense, I will say, like, in regards to fantasizing about killing his sister, which is, like, pretty messed up. In Tyrion's defense, Eliana started this sentence with. In Trian's defense, as we've seen, Circe also very much fantasizes about killing Trian and has from the beginning. So he's just responding to the energy he's been given his whole life.

To be fair, like she thought, you know, he was going to kill her and her family. And, you know, he might. I'm just saying. He's killed some of her family. I just think it would be really funny if she was right. Yeah. I'm always saying this. Yeah, agreed.

That's our new thing. I kind of like she is, right? Like a lot. It's crazy. I'm like, oh, damn, good for you, Circy. Like, actually you were right, though. Like, yeah, what you said was crazy. Your actions that came from what you said was crazy, but she was right.

I mean, it's probably, yeah, it's probably a product of, like, the books having been the gap between the previous book and now, like, having been so long that it now feels like Tyrion would be the more unexpected choice as opposed to Jamie. So it's probably Jamie, but I do think it being Tyrion would be unexpected now. Oh my God, the pendulum swings. I know. So the lands become less populous, and finally, there are no roofs to shelter them. They must make camp, and Tyrion is not useful for most of this because he ends up constantly in the way. Because of his ability. That's so me.

No, it's not. But you are the one drinking off to the side. That's true. I'm usually off to the side reading because everyone's like, Chloe, you're just like Hannah from Goose said to me the one time. I'm a better manager. I need you to go manage. You're a better manager. and then I stood there going, huh, what am I supposed to be?

Did I just get managed? Huh. Oh, maybe. Yeah, she's a good, she's a good manager too. Great manager. Incredible. I think about it every day. So instead, Tyrion makes it as custom to take wine and a fur and go read somewhere

while everyone sets up and breaks down the camp. And also, nicely, Eddard Stark had loaned Tyrion a few rare books. This one that he's been reading is rumination on the history and properties of dragons. And honestly, I just want to see the conversation where, Turing goes up to Ned and's like Eddard, Lord Eddard Can I borrow some books? And Ned's probably like Sure

That's it. I want to see that exchange Absolutely And like how do you say no to that? But also like Sorry, this is another Extremely Rare Valerian book Question mark? Question mark? Like we talked about it last episode But like

Where did this come from another one. Last episode was Engines of War. Now it is this book on dragons and their properties. Why do they have this and who is it from? Is it from Brandon Snow? Is it from Ali and Jahris's

visit? Is it from Jase's visit? Like who brought these books over? Where did they get these books? And it makes sense to me that the great houses would have these great pieces for their library. I'm not saying like, it must mean something. But it's just like crazy to think like, how did

they get it and obviously they're honoring it, but like this is like a total like title drop. Like by the way, here's a history lore detail about dragons, which are gone and aren't coming back. Yeah, I imagine it might be from Alassan because like Septan Barth was so into it. Maybe she like brought it to read and then was like, God damn it, Barth, I'm not bringing this back. I have so much other stuff to bring back on my dragon plane. Silverwing doesn't want me to bring it back.

Yeah, no, for real. So she's like, oh, I'll just leave it. enough today. Yeah, you can't bring everything. She's already had to go to the wall and been denied. Yeah, she's one bagging it. And yeah, she has to come back with a bunch of other stuff. And like...

Our one bag. I assume Ned is probably like, I don't know. I don't give a fuck. He probably doesn't know what the books are. He's like, I don't keep track of the library. I have grief. I have other things to think about, like, how I'm sad. Y'all think Ned Stark reads books.

No. No. What does he do? What is that guy up to besides dying these days? He read a book that one time. He read a book that, yeah, it's true. He read a book at the end of this book, remember? And then he died.

Oh, yeah, true. Whoa, there's a lesson in there. Don't read books, he will die. Yeah, there's a lesson in there. Not even once. Don't read books, not even once. It hasn't killed Tyrion yet. Not even once.

It hasn't killed Tyrion yet. So he's going to read. He's sitting at an ancient oak tree. reading the books, uh, sipping a wine from castorly rock, classy, learning about dragon bone and its properties.

It's black in color, high and iron and strong as steel, but light, flexible and impervious to fire. The Dothraki prized the dragon bone bows, and Tyrion was morbidly obsessed with dragons. Of course they do. We get a Dothraki bow at the wedding chapter.

True. A dragon bone bow. Yeah, see, there's a dialogue between these chapters. Yep, agree. It is interesting to me that the bone is considered flexible, because I just don't think of bones like that. When I think of my bones, I'm like, I hope that's not flexible.

Shit, I hope those are like, I think about osteoporosis a lot. It does really make you think, though, that perhaps Valerian Steel, maybe it really was made of dragon bone when they're saying that it's as strong as steel, blah, blah, blah. And I mean, like, I know other people have said it. I don't really think about Valerian Steel that much. Yeah. I do love that you said in your notes. You're like, perhaps it was made of Dragonbone.

I'm like, perhaps. Perhaps. That's another thing that I'm like, it is. Well, I mean, like they were all like. It's blood sacrifice and dragon bone, I think, bro. They didn't go into it in the show. And like, much to my sugar in. And Guntry was right there.

Like, Tobo Mott knew how to work Valerian Steel. So like. Tobo Mott, Applesoss Mott, yeah. Tobo, Applesoss Mott, knew how to work Valerian steal it said in this book, which I'm like, George, where was you taking that? Is you taking that somewhere? Tell me where and put it under my chair

right now. Right now. Also, reminder that their bones are black in this series, which is so hardcore, so fantasy hardcore, I love it. Like, I love that idea. And their fire is different colors. I love that, too. I love that shit. Yeah, it is cute.

But yeah, I don't think of my, maybe my bones are benty, and I mean, like, carlage. I don't know. I'm not going to, I'm not going to, investigate. So, Tyrion's first visit to Kingslanding at Circe and Robert's wedding, he sought the dragon skulls in the throne room. Robert had replaced them with tapestries because he's like, fuck these dragon skulls. Fuck the dragons. But Tyrion kept searching until he found them in a dank cellar. What kind of dank, Tyrion? Honestly, wait, a dragon bone bong would be sick.

That's what I'd be hitting that shit every day. It would be me, howland weed, and Ashara Dank every day in my life. Yeah, not me. Not because they don't do drugs, but because... No, you don't do bongs. Yes. This is important. I mean, you don't do drugs either.

This is canon. Yeah, you should write this down. It's canon. It's a really hard relationship we're in, you know? Yeah, it is. We have these thoughts of, he thought to find them impressive. perhaps even frightening. He had not thought to find them beautiful.

Whoa. Okay, Tyrion. Creepy. I love it. You're obsessed. I love it. This is, it's an overarching great

because he's going to be surrounded by dragons again, right? Like the great shot here of him having been in that, the same place, Aria then explores, right? So like, really good blink if you miss it

when you're reading this the first time. Like, wait a second. Isn't that where Tyrion was in that chapter that's described to us and his, when he remembers being in King's Landing with the dragon heads, the skulls, and then Aria later is in that same place exploring. So kind of fun.

Fun connection there. And also like anchoring that like here he is standing amidst the great dragons of Westrose and their skulls, the dead dragons of Westeros and their skulls, the dragons that died kind of a lot of because of war. Right? War did kind of kill them. They did die. Yeah. And it anchors what George wants to do with Tyrion, right? Like standing amongst dragons dead, great, dead and alive. And also when you look at it from like the perspective of the first three books, Tyrion and Dragons is so prominent. Tyrion was giving great world building on dragons, which helped work perfectly into Danny's plot as she's kind of living the world building that we're learning from Tyrion and then bit by bit up until the dragons are born. And then it all connects to.

his plot, but also like, there are 200 mentions of dragons in Tyrion's chapters. Like, Tyrion thinks about dragons a lot. He becomes in a dance with dragons, another dragon lore drop that helps kind of cement and sew together these chapters from Danny and Barriston and Quentin all into, emesh them basically into a dance with dragons and then move over to Tyrion, who's just thinking about them. So really well done, very intentionally done, and also great when you start to see where the weaving should put him in the end of his arc between dragons, right, with Danny and John and maybe young Griff, obviously, that we need in a doodah with him. Yeah. Yeah, definitely. It does feel significant. And I mean, like, on one hand, he could just be,

like, really into dragons. You know, I've met enough webs to know, like, just because you're really into something doesn't mean you're of that culture, right? Or you're of that lineage. But on the other hand, it could mean something and it probably does. And yeah, I do also really like how there's this language of when he's sitting and like exploring the dragon skulls. He talks about being really interested in the way the shadows dance on the wall. And I don't think this is intentional because like these were written, I don't know, 15 years apart or so. But there's that language right of Tyrion being described as a shadow in the midst of all these dragons. by McCorough.

So it's just fun. I mean, I do think it's intentional, though. Like, I think it was done with intention. Yeah, I think it's a callback. Okay. I mean, it could be. You tell me that George doesn't see that great killer line about Tyrion in his mind.

He's jacked off to that line. It's that good of a line of Tyrion as the shadow on the wall. I think the only reason I feel that way is because he didn't actually initially have John right as beheading Janos Slant as people have discussed in the past or like a couple of other things. So I'm like, I think sometimes George just doesn't remember what he did because I think his dialogue is a different story though. Like Tyrion's dialogue is so selective and killer and like I don't mean this. Like this is not derogatory what I'm about to say in parentheses. I put the parentheses in the air for those at home that can't see what I'm doing right now with

Eliana because you can't because this isn't a video podcast. Maybe it should be maybe we should be on TikTok, discuss in the comments. But I've been lately making hand parentheses when I try to say things. I think it's cute. It's probably not, and it'll probably die off in two weeks. But in parentheses, this is not derogatory. But, like, I do think that Tyrion's writing is very much his dialogue is much wittier than a lot of other characters.

So nailing that dialogue takes a lot more work and finessing it and, like, cutting down what you want him to say. and like it has to be very important. Like, it has to be really done with detail and make sure it's exactly what you want because he's a sharp cutting character. So what he says holds weight. And so I think that most of the text in Tyrion's chapters, whether it's internal dialogue, external dialogue, or things Tyrion is doing,

George has actually thought about for a very long time and in some aspects maybe even gotten a little high on his supply. But you know what? Hoops amongst us has not wanted to get a little. little high on their own supply. He did a great job with Tyrion. I think he deserves to a little bit. So that's what I mean.

I don't mean in a derogatory way. But if you're feeling yourself, like, you're going out. You're feeling yourself. Then feel yourself. Okay. Okay, George. Feeling it. So I do think he's doing a callback because that's like also a very significant anchor to

to Tyrion's character of being that shadow on the wall, being, you know, the snarling shadow. That's true. He is. He is. And I mean, like, that's George's. favorite OC right there. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. For real, for real, for real. That's what I mean.

That's his baby OC. I'm like, you think. Come on. That's his boy. It's his boy. Yeah. That's his art. I respect your opinion. Yeah, no, I...

Despite disagreeing. I've been convinced. No, I'm swayed. I influenced you. Okay. Yeah. Influenced. My influencer, solo influencer. Um, just for me. She makes content just for me.

Actually, in a way, she kind of does. Because you can't see it, so it is. Anyways, polished and smooth. The skulls shimmer in the light of Tyrion's torch. Their teeth are long, curving knives, and when Tyrion leaves, he feels 19 pairs of eye sockets watching him go. The oldest skull was more than 3,000 years old, and the youngest, only 150.

The most recent were the smallest that are no bigger than a dog skull, and all they misshapen, all that remained of the last two hatchlings born on Dragonstone. And also we have this line of, they were the last of the Targaryen dragons, perhaps the last dragons anywhere, and they had not lived very long. Well, Tyrion, let me tell you,

if you had read a song of ice and fire, you would know that they were not. Spoiler! I do love that kind of, I bolded a couple quotes from this, honestly because two last hatchlings born on Dragonstone. Well, it just makes you think of Danny and Vassaris, right? The last two hatchlings, broken, deformed, and they don't have any support,

and they're not the great majesty of the dragons. And of course, that Tyrion's like, they had not lived very long. Oh, well, these two, well, Vesaris isn't going to either. Spoilers. But Danny, it really makes you think. But Danny is, right? Against all odds. like just like that great line on Sanz of the Lady Stark,

it seems you might survive us all or whatever that he says in the show. And then here in the books for Danny, like she's going to survive a lot longer than folks would think despite being the last, you know, hatchling that's left, maybe, question mark, question mark, question mark, maybe. And then, of course, you know, we're evoking them in your mind by saying the last two hatchlings, you're thinking, oh, Danny and Viseras, they're addressing.

their dragons. And also, again, like you're saying, structurally, we're tying Tyrion into their plot, tying their plots together, and meshing their fates. Like, this is the story to watch out for. These songs are being sung, and eventually they will merge. I don't know. It makes Tyrion really useful as, like, a lore shitter. Like, he shits out lore all the time.

But it really helps reinforce that main plot consistently without being too obvious in Danny's plot and allows for like the nice, subtle, maybe not so subtle on reread foreshadowing of the dragons to bubble to the surface before they birth. But also it makes me think George has had that plan on like what the last dragons were for a long time. Obviously, he's gardening that with some of the dance and some of the history he's going into in blood and fire.

Can't wait, can't wait, look under your chair. But it does make me wonder, like, when did he know which Targaryen it was going to be? When did he know who was going to have the last dragons and et cetera? you know, like so interested when Agon 3 became in his mind one of those and must be fun. Must be fun to think about. But all that said, we have dragon skulls. From there, the skulls range upwards from small to big or up to the biggest, right?

So the biggest is Ballarian, Ben Marraxies, Vagar, the Nina, the Pinta, the Santa Maria. There's so many of them, you know, they're all named after gods. That is actually them though, right? Like I think that. I'm like, is that the Nina? the Pint of the Santa Maria. You could have ridden a horse down Vagar's throat, he thinks, but maybe you couldn't have ridden it back out.

Wow. Marraxies was even bigger than that. Balearion, the biggest, could have swallowed an orax hole. Not Sam. Yeah. Tyrion stood, stared down at the dragons, and imagined Balearion flying above, because he is obsessed with dragons. I don't know what's up with that.

But we're about to learn more about his obsession. It kind of like had never internalized before that even though Vagar lived longer than Maraxis and so therefore would have had more time to grow than Maraxis was still bigger. I never really thought about it. It's not a competition because you shouldn't pit women against each other, whether Maraxis or Vagar, but it is interesting considering the relationships. It's just interesting. Yeah. Yeah. Well, Tyrion recalls the story of his own remote ancestor, King Lauren of the Rock.

It's spelled L-O-R-E-N. I met someone named Lauren the other year, and I was like, wow, what a fun name. The other year? Did you say the other year? Is that what you just said to me? Maybe two years.

Maybe two years ago. Three years ago? I don't know. Three years ago? I don't know. Yeah, something like that. I like him. I'm going to start using that. Thank you for that one.

The other year. So, yeah, King Lauren of the Rock tried to stand against the Targaryens with King Mern of the Reach 300 years ago and failed. The realm was seven kingdoms at the time, and between the two kings, Mern and Lauren, had 600

banners, 5,000 mounted knights, and 50,000 free riders, and men at arms. Agin, the dragon lord, only had a fifth of that number, but he did have nukes. He had Vagar Maraxes and Valerian. They were unleashed. Chloe would like you to know that... Unleashed the

D! Yes. This is in parentheses. Wait, did I send you something? I think I, did I send you a thing that said Unleash the Dragon recently? I took a photo. Yeah, the fireball. Yeah, I should sue. We sent it to Zach at Game of Owens and he was like, use it as free branding. Oh yeah, that's what it was like, use it as free branding, you know, like what are they going to do about it? Sue you? Lull. Lull. I was like, oh, I was like, oh, thus, this became known as the field of fire. Because 4,000 men burned that day when they're like, all right, let's do it. Let's make an example of these people. And King Mern was among those who died. They did catch Lauren later on. Anyways, interrupting all these thoughts is John Snow who asked Tyrion, why do you read

so much, you fucking nerd? And there's also... This moment here where Tyrion's like, how old are you? Like 12? And John's like, well, I'm 14, so shut the fuck up. I do think that's the tone. Like, I do think he's totally nagging him, though. Like, I think

he is negging him. I think Tyrion's not good at gauging ages. We find that out later on, right? From his interactions with interacting with other young folk, because the way that some people might gauge age by height, that's not something that he can do. I've seen that people discuss that in the past in like analyses. Interesting. Interesting. Oh, especially in regards to Young Griff. No, but I think he was negging him there too. So I don't know. We'll talk about it in a second because there's something here that I think is happening that you actually made me think. Good job. Congrats. You're influencing me even if you don't want to.

It really makes you think. Yeah. It does. You make me think a lot. Tyrion tells John to use his eyes. Tyrion can't keep up. He's like, I can't keep up. I'm short. I'm twisted. I can't be a swordsman. I would have been left to die as a peasant or be sold to a slaver's grotesquery. Oh, interesting. But I was born a Lannister. And being a Lannister comes with great expectations. My father's tenure.

as a hand of the king, my brother's killing of a mad king, my sister's marriage to the new king, my repulsive nephews of eventual ascendancy. But how? When I am so broken. And then we get this great little back and forth from Tyrion where he says, I must do my part for the honor of my house, wouldn't you agree? Yet how? Well, my legs may be too small for my body, but my head is too large. Although I prefer to think it is just large enough for my mind, I have a realistic grasp of my own strengths and weaknesses. My mind is my weapon. My brother has his sword. King Robert has his warhammer. I have my mind. And a new mind needs books as a sword needs a wet stone if it is to keep its edge. He's the brains, bro. Got brains beauty brawn in that family, not brawn.

Not that broad. Yeah. That is like, that's a role that he saw himself being able to fulfill if Taiwan hadn't fucked it all. I do think it's really interesting though in regards to whether he would have been sold or not and the way that he sees his role in that house, like the way that Tyrion has and that he feels like, well, I can't be swordsmen, etc. He's internalized the myths to an extent of

his class and the privileges that he believes it affords him, which like, you know, don't get me wrong, be like the richest house ever definitely gives you privileges. Like obviously you're going to get fucking privileges from that. But like he says that if he had been born to a lower class, he probably would have just been left out to die or like for sure sold to a slaver is I think very much undone by meeting Penny and her family and all those other dwarves that get killed because everyone thinks that they're Tyrion, which is kind of, anyways, that's not great.

but, like, Tyrion's class, again, it offers him many protections, and yes, he and Penny did get sold off to a slaver, but that wasn't a sure thing in Westrose, right? Like, I think there's arguably, maybe even, like, more freedom in some aspects, not all aspects, of being of a lower class for someone like Tyrion, because, you know, we've discussed in the past, The Song of Ice and Fire is not an accurate portrayal of some things, like, when it comes to gender and economic opportunity, it's a fictional series, it's not real fucking history, because in real fucking history, many women during the medieval era would have had actual jobs and they would have probably had a bit more like economic opportunity in that because society wouldn't have

been able to function if you didn't employ women and have them also be farming, have them also doing like shit, right? And you could argue that because of- Yeah, we can't stay barefoot and pregnant all day. Right, they weren't. Like they were out there also doing smithing and working on leatherwork, all this other stuff because we live in a society and they were necessary for society. So you could argue that because of this, some of them might have actually had more social freedom than women of the higher classes who were seen as just vessels, right? Like, there are some ways in which Tyrion may have actually been better off had he not been born to the Lannisters or in this class. So we'll talk about this little bit more, but

anyways, allegedly, John absorbs all these lessons from Tyrion about how a mind needs book. like a sword needs a wet stone but honestly maybe this is just my memory but I don't think I've ever seen that boy read. Literally reads in a dance with dragons. Really? Okay. I forgot. The Jade Compendium?

Oh, the Jade Compendium. And he also reads like the letter that Ramsey sent him so and mail. He gets a lot of mail. He did read, he reads his hate mail. That's important. His mail from the haters, bro. Yeah, he reads his emails

and he includes them in his episodes and his tweets of note yeah he mails and tweets of note John Snow style he went up well that was a podcast in a way These are my emails and tweets

a note I don't want it Yeah Come to the shield hall We're streaming live We don't have streaming He got swatted Streaming is just like

They're all peeing outside on the ice Yeah Someone called it in There's this line This line from Tyrion I really like where he's like talking about the great expectations of being a Lannister, right? His father's tenure as Hand of the King, which was kind of some bullshit because Tywin plotted and rose his way up slowly and then he undid all of Agan's fucking laws.

And then he like undid everything for Aries and like plotted against Aries all the time. So like his father's tenure as Hand of the King, a joke. his brother's killing of a mad king being lauded as this great act right and like i mean i'm still you know jury's out on that but it was you know just like uh you know he did what he had to do i respect respect but it wasn't some great event and then his sister's marriage to the new king my sister the queen of the seven kingdoms which like okay so do you want to take a stroll down a everything that the queens of the seven kingdoms have had to endure ever since there was a queen of the seven kingdom no do you want to take a stroll down what Searcy endures as queen of the seven kingdoms. No. Well, guess what?

Let's talk about his repulsive nephews eventual ascendancy, which, by the way, those are his nephews and niece, just, you know, like double nephews and niece. Ironically, if Tyrion Targaryen's true, then I guess John's also his nephew, so John's ascendancy could fulfill that too. But that said, I wasn't thinking about it till now. No, Danny wouldn't be his niece, just his half-sister. just his half sister but you know like he's into that and she's kidding not really kidding but

that said like all these things you know like then his role what he's going to do to add to this list right what Tyrion will be remembered by history as in the long run whatever it will be whatever he wrote whatever he chose yep

whatever he ends up doing himself like maybe he will be you know the hand to the queen and ruiner of the queen or, you know, ruiner. Who knows what he's going to do, but like all these things that are probably not going to be good from a historical eye, he can add to the list, too, of his insane bad siblings and dad.

Yeah, he's probably going to be known for, like, a lot of bad things. Like killing his dad? Yeah. You were saying earlier that, like, he shits lore. And, like, in my head, I had the line of Lord Tyrion Lannister in the end did not shit lore. I go away Tyrion looks at John by the way and he's like

Oh my god that boy is such a start He looks just like Eddard There is not an ounce of his mother left in him Oh sir's a camera Love that line so much Whoever his mother had been She had left very little of herself in him Don't even need it in the document

I could tell you that one by heart He tells John about dragons in this book that he's reading. And John's like, I don't know why you're reading about dragons. There literally are none. And Tyrion's like,

oh, I used to dream of having a dragon when I was your age. Even a stunted, twisted, ugly little boy can look down over the world when he's seated on a dragon's back. He says wistfully

he would start fires and castorly rock. Ha ha ha. And stare at the flames, right, pretending that they're dragon fire. And sometimes, imagine his father burning,

sometimes his sister. John looks at him kind of funny and he's like, don't look at me like that. You've had the same dreams. And John's like, no, I haven't. Dude, I have not had those dreams. Not yet. And Tyrion sarcastically is like, oh, because Lady Stark treats you like one of her own kids, huh? And Rob's really nice because he gets Winterfell and where do you have to go?

Oh yeah, the watch. Ouch, burn, pun intended. Casual, sometimes I imagine killing my dad and my sister with Dragon Fire commentary and, you know, I feel like that's gonna come up later maybe in his life but also it kind of describes

maybe like, you know, him starting a fire in Castorly Rock staring at the flames pretending it's his family burning. That could be like a reality for him pretty soon if the books ever come out, right? It could, it could. And honestly, yeah, John's like, what the

fuck? Kirby's calling the police. 9-1-1 Yeah He's like hello But Tyrion's like Like you've never imagined yourself on like a dragon Like where's your sense of whimsy

Um Actually for real though But Yeah Okay when you recount Like recounted this though Because More more evidence for Tyrion

As the veiling card Crack pot theory Because he fantasizes about killing his dad And then you know what Tyrion does kill his dad So I'm just saying two for two could just saying. It's probably Jamie. Don't want to.

You don't have to hand it to D&D ever legally. Okay, first of all. So let me preface whatever bullshit I'm about to say with that. Just to tell you how much bullshit you're about to hear it come out of my mouth. But that's why season eight, Jamie Searcy, Tyrion ending actually really did work in some ways because Tyrion was kind of. of the cause of their death in some ways by empowering De Nerey's forward and like also

doing behind enemy lines plotting and you know they wouldn't have died without him and then if we just pretend that Valancar was actually Jamie he could have still killed her in the rubble you know so like I don't know it was almost there like there's like such a I thought

the dimension of emotion wasn't done well by D&D but the dimension of emotion around the idea when you think about in your own brain and mix up the brain stew for a minute? Like, yeah, I'm like, okay, I can see where we get there. However, I don't think they're going to be in King's Landing, and I think Castorley Rock actually is probably more accurate, because that's probably where Cersie's going to flee

to. I think he comes home. I think she's going to flee there, and I will say, like, it probably is Jamie, because I do think that there's something to be said there in regards to, especially when this was written in the 90s. Yeah. And because I think people forget this was written. in the 90s initially

of like the parallels of wanting to explore violence against women and those parallels etc. I'm not saying this to like wubify Jamie I'm saying this and that I think it'd be really interesting if Cercy was right is all I'm saying that's all.

And if it were Tyrion, that's all I think it's funny. My number one motive in my life let CERC be right. It could be two things. Life is sometimes two things. That's true. Clearly like all of this is wow, big Kendall Roy, I hate him, I love him, I'm going to outsource it to my therapist energy kind of shit. Like, Tyrion's like, yeah, my family, you know, I'd blow him up with the dragon if I could.

Oh, don't worry about that. We'll talk about it next week in therapy. Anyway, so, John Snow. And then you have Roman Roy, aka Jamie being like, why was I in the cage? They're like, you liked it. You wanted to be there. I enjoy that Tyrion is like all of them somehow, but they're literally so. So we're on season two, actually.

We're about to hit the best, like, the end of season two, and I'm hyped. Oh, that's right. I forgot you started a rewatch. Yeah. Well, this whole exchange pisses off John, understandably, because this was very rude to insinuate that he has these thoughts. And also, John's, like, don't say that about, like, what I've chosen to do. The watch is a noble calling, and Tyrion says, it's for the outcast and the criminals,

and they're going to freeze their balls off and never fuck. And first of all, a lot of them do still. fuck, okay. John's gonna fuck. But anyways. Yeah, literally John does get to fuck, so what is he talking about? I will say, like, this is also part of what I'm talking about in regards to Tyrion's

perception being so clouded by his class, and interestingly also his privilege. Like, he sees John's disillusionment and goes on this whole tirade of being like, John, your new brothers are, and to quote, sullen peasants, debtors, poachers, rapers, thieves, and bastardsers,

And yeah, some of them very well might be that, but like with the exception of the peasant part, not like a lot of these things fit people of the upper class too. Like a lot of them are also debtors, poachers, rapers, thieves and bastards. Yes. Like literally, they're just not peasants. Literally. They might be sullen. Stanis is very sullen. And as we see...

But they were born into it. Yeah, but like as we see from John's POV, like, there is on. honor and humanity amongst these people who become his brothers, right? Like some of them were called rapers as we find out, like when they weren't. It was just that because of their class that they were called that. Or some of them

might have resorted to thievery or poaching when they had no other choice to survive and some asshole like, Dr. Mormon is like, I'm going to sell you to slivers. Whereas Tyrion didn't have to be a thief or poach in order to put food on the table because he always had

food on the table. Right? He's He's like, oh, life is so terrible. These people, like, suck. And I'm just like, Tyrion, your station as a Lannister was very much also a gilded cage, same as it is. Like, there's something really interesting there in regards to Tyrion and gender. Yeah, and there's more, I want to come back to this. Tyrion and gender. That is like such a...

Tierian and gender. Not the agenda. A men god canon. Oh, my God. There's something to... I'm going to, like, just bring it here even. I mean, I don't... I'd argue, right?

Like, Tyrion, and you're going to talk about this when he brings up hard truths, right? It's kind of why, like, he had such a blast in a Game of Thrones and a Clash of Kings because his father wasn't there to remind him of the truth, right? Like, it's an escapism. So this is an escapism. And John, and part of why I'm like, I think he's nagging John about his age. And also why I also think that about Young Griff, Griff, because he is kind of, like, nagging him. in that entire conversation.

Tyrion has this, like, layer of machismo, right? He's trying to play almost like the cool, older brother with John. Like, look at me. I have power. You can be like me, too. I know you're just like a fool right now because you're a bastard with no power and you're going to the watch and you're a boy. And I was like you once, but, you know, you can win still.

Like, look at me. Society hasn't killed me yet. You too could win. And it's like an equilibrium of like, ah, I, you're a bastard and a kid. Like, look at me. I won. I'm superior.

This is what you could be in some aspects. But also, I don't think it's like an intentional competition, but an inherent competition. And maybe that comes from those kind of like the framework of the gender in it. But also there's a fear of being himself and being vulnerable, right? Like he shows John this tiny glimpse of who he is and he's like, I'm so real. I'm so real. This is me and I'm so real. And no one's as real as I am.

But yes, I'm also still. the Lord. He's like, I live up to the Lannister name, did you know? I can exist within the system of society, the very system that has flipped me off and been like, you can't exist. And he's so busy trying to exist and trying to prove that he should live and exist in that framework. Yeah. And be looked at as normal instead of normalizing being outside the framework, which is what John is, right? Because accepted as he might be, people will always turn around. and say, that guy's a bastard. Guy's a bastard.

And where it's also kind of, Tyrion's eventually going to be the opposite and John the opposite, right? Like, Tyrion will eventually be a kinslayer, bastard, betrayer by the eye of everyone. Well, John will likely end up a king, at least for a while. And then he'll be a kin slayer, betrayer. Dammed. Cursed. Yeah, for real.

Oathbreaker. Motherless. Dumbed. Yeah. So, I don't know. I just feel, I feel like there's something there that, like, Tyrion puts on this whole act that I am so real, but he's not. He's not real. He's lying to himself all the fucking time, and he knows a lot of these truths.

Like, he knows right here the truth of what society is. He knows what his life actually isn't terrible. I mean, he's just trying to act it, you know, like walk it while he talk it. He's overperforming what he thinks masculinity is supposed to be like, right? And the way that, like, even the hound was, like, trying to act tough in front of it. I'm like, why are you trying to act tough in front of a 13-year-old kid? Like, who gives a fuck? I don't give a fuck with a 13-year-old kid.

Well, no, that's true, because we're the same age, me and a 13-year-old person. I'm going to fucking scream. I care about my peers think of me. Oh, my gosh. I don't know, man. Like, I just think we just, once we get out of high school, man, college is going to be so cool. I mean, there are definitely people who are still trying to, whatever. Whatever.

You gotta live what makes you happy is the thing. So if you're happy being delusional and lying to yourself all the time, Tyrion, I'm happy for you. I don't think he is. I mean, that's the problem, right? I don't either. I think he's miserable. He's fucking miserable, dude. Which is, I guess, the whole point of the story.

We got to make a whole club, a fight club, you know? Like him, John, Danny. Some of these characters, man, that just like, they don't got to be normal. They can be cool. They can be out there. You don't got to be normal. because beforehand you were just ordering a bunch of stuff from the IKEA catalog and I only brought that up because I wanted to talk about how someone made a whole

IKEA in Pocopia. Stop it. I can't wait to see Pocopia. You're going to show me so much about your new land. No, okay. I'm not very good. Like, I'm not, I was never like a big Minecraft girly. Um, I'm more of a, I want to kill as you all.

I've said this before. Yeah, you want a murder. Yeah. So I'm like Tyrion. Anyways. A liar. This whole tirade that, like, Tyrion goes on, though, really gets to John. He's close to tears.

And then he steps up, like, he's going to fight Tyrion. And Tyrion moves to, like, maybe, like, comfort John with an apology. But before you can do that, ghost out of nowhere appears and lands Tyrion on his back on the ground. And his mouth is, like, full of dirt and blood. And his back is spasming painfully. It's actually kind of fucked up. And Tyrion makes to ask for help. But Ghost is being an asshole.

and John tells him to ask nicely. And there's this line here. This is, it was not the first time in his life. He had been humiliated and would not be the last. Perhaps he even deserved this. Yeah, humble fucking pie. I love that also, like, he had regarded, like we just said, John is so much less of a person as a young guy.

I'm like, oh, you're like 12, you don't fucking matter. And you have, you know, like, you made a stupid, choice and I know you're sad about it and joy. But this is also note that like we don't get the other side of this, but like John knew he was being condescended to. The tone changed. Ghost sensed the tone changing. And here John puts himself in a position of power quite literally over Tyrion and is like,

ask nicely. Kind of king. I don't know what's going on in this relationship. Anyway. It's an interesting relationship. Like this is, I think this is like how. men become friends or something sometimes but like it was not

heated rivalry is this friendship um it was really not nice of Tyrion to go John and honestly this very behavior on Tyrion's part because he lacked a bit of self-awareness is very much why many people do not like Tyrion in universe

oh and I don't even know if it's that he lacks a self-awareness it's more like I don't know like because I do this often and I think it's hearing ask where literally I say some shit and then like I leave a conversation I'm like girl why the fuck did you just say that shit? Did that come out of your mouth? Did you just say that shit? Like so I

see it immediately. Turns out when you threaten to like kill people sometimes and you might have that power to do it people sometimes take those threats seriously. Well that's true. Or things like that. So they're like I don't know that was not very cool or nice of you. Look I don't think that my father

the inventor of gold is really I'm gonna appreciate it. I'm gonna appreciate. what you just said of shitting gold. I will say though that like John wielding ghosts like this and, you know, John's chip on his shoulder, that's like his parallel. I mean, there's obviously a lot of parallels between him and like parallel to Tyrion and class. Because I think John truly believes that he's being righteous here.

It sucks that his feelings got hurt. But like same as how he thinks that being the bestest swordsman on the wall is indicative of his own efforts when he gets there. as opposed to him actually having had access to, like, great training, right? Like, John wielding this humiliation and this failure to, in my opinion, like, acknowledge his own physical privilege. Yeah. Compared to, like, Tyrion suffering this often, right? Like, and this physical danger slash threat that Tyrion constantly feels because of his body, which, again, something, something, gender, right, parallels, right?

As a person who also feels in danger sometimes. But yeah, like, there's something here. Like both those things can be true where Tyrion is being a dick, but John's also being dick. Yeah. Again, is this male friendship? Sometimes I think it might be. Sometimes I'm like it's more charged than whatever. I don't know.

Is this why male loneliness epidemic? I don't know. Well, and it gets a little bit sweeter, right? So first, John tells ghost, stay down. He's like, all right, stay down. Tyrion's sorry. And he helps Tyrion up. Because they both at least have the good trade of coming to and being able to work it out.

True. True. They laugh and they're like, oh, he says, oh, maybe Ghost thought you were a grumpkin. Because Tyrion previously had made fun of grumkins and snarks. And Tyrion doesn't want to know what Ghost would do to snarks. Because he's a good boy. He wouldn't do anything bad. He's just a good boy. Oh, my God.

This is unrelated. But it makes me think of like, so my partner, his younger brother, once learned that Santa is not real. and... Yes. When they were children, right? And then he like, hoffingly said, and I don't even want to know

about the Easter bunny. That's what I kind of imagined Tyrion. I don't even want to know he does the Starx. Damn, I know what he did to Santa. I heard about it.

It's so cute. Damn ghost. So, this joke about the Grumpkins and Snarks, though, Tyrion accepts that joke about looking like a monster in the interest of peace. It's very much him

armoring himself in this thing that he is the way that he told John to a few chapters ago, but also like, I think there's kind of a tell here, right, of how he lets himself play slash take on that role and he comes to end up like living in that later on, then living that later

on in the story when he's like, all right, I will be the monster. I will be the monster if you want me to be. Yeah, I love that. And like equally, when you go to the next chapter, it's interesting because you have more dehuman. humanizing talking Catalan's chapter about the Lannisters. So like, it kind of flows really well, actually.

Like, I love that that comes in the next chapter with Catalan, which of course she's going to feel that way, because, you know, she thinks they had something to do with her son falling to his almost death and coma. Hot take, they did. They did, yeah. So she's not wrong on that. It's just maybe don't judge a book by its cover,

like the whole series by a cover, maybe, you know? like there's other books in that family. Yeah. I don't know. I know it's basic, but kind of fun. Kind of fun that this chapter were like, humanized Tyrion, humanize the Lannisters, humanize being a Lannister, humanized, then the next chapter, you're like, evil, bad, dirty, stinky Lannisters.

Full of lice. Full of it. Just sour smelling. Yeah. Sinister. Everything is coming to friendship here. John shares the wine skin with Tyrion and faces the facts. Tyrion's not lying about the Knights Watch and the state of it.

And John is facing those facts very well. He's like, I guess it is what it is. And Tyrion's like, yeah, man, it is what it is. Most men would probably deny a rather hard truth than face it. But not me and you. We face hard truths all day long. We love to face hard truths because we are those kinds of men, John. I'm like, the kind of man you are, Tyrion, is you lie to yourself all the time.

You eat hot ship and lie. Like, you love to lie. Like, that's where all this came from because you're dissatisfied with yourself. So you lied to this kid to tell him your life is amazing when it's literally not. Anyways, it's like when people that are grown give you advice and you're like, your life is like a wreck and that is bad advice. Why are you giving the advice and acting like you know things? Like Tyrion's like, I've ruined my life.

And here are the top 10 ways you should do good things with your life by doing it too. Right. Like, it's like, it's kind of weird because I'm like, and I think Tyrion truly believes this about himself. but I'm also like, oh, Tyrion, is that what you did with Shay, face a hard truth? Yeah. As opposed to deny it. Or the way that you threaten to kill people all the time or... No, it's escapism and power wielding.

It's because these are the things that make you escape from your everyday hell. I get it. Yeah. Because I don't do drugs emphatically. We don't. Yeah. Because we don't have dragon bone bones. Exactly.

And I don't smoke out of my dragon bone bong. when things go wrong or right, to be fair, because that would be seasonally. I wouldn't do either of those things. But if I did, maybe I would do both. But like, maybe that's what Tyrion needs. Okay. Honestly, I think, I think you'd love me. Cush.

Tyrion Lannister would love legal marijuana. Let, okay. Okay, we were reminded of this recently. We were reminded recently of let Sonsa Starryk finish for blonde. Let Tyrion. Yeah. Let Tyrion Lannister. Let Tyrion wrap, like, roll a fucking blunt, honestly.

Yeah. Roll me a blunt, Tyrion. That would be a great use for you. So they make their way back to camp. And John helps Tyrion or offers to help him over some brambles. So like they're being very good to one another. They're bros again. The horses have been fed.

A fire has been laid while they had their dramatic conversation. And Yorin is skinning a squirrel on a stone. And there's a stew being tended by morat. Yeah. And this path like that they take going back to camp, again, there's an emphasis here on how difficult the whole thing is physically on Tyrion, and again, how he has to feel like he must be quiet about it. And then Tyrion goes to help in another's place.

And then Tyrion goes to help in another place that he's good at helping, seasoning the stew. He's like, let's add some pepper. I'm like, what, why? How does everyone have fucking pepper? Like, what kind of luxurious thing is this? Anyways, Benjian, meanwhile, greets John saying he was worried that the others got him humorously. And Tyrion chimes in that, no, no, it was the Grumpkins, and John smiles. And he's like, oh, we have an inside joke.

And Benjohn's puzzled, but not to focus on John for a second. Loll at Benjins saying that John shouldn't go off on his own like that because John, you know, who breaks off for like one and a half books in the north. And everyone's like, what happened to you, bro? Oh, my God. Well. Yeah. They eat the squirrel's stew With the black bread and the hard cheese

And Tyrion shares his wine skin with them all That is a good way to make friends Yeah, he's passing the blunt Oh yeah Yes And we end the chapter I really like this One by one the company

drifted off to their shelters And to sleep All but John Snow Who had drawn the night's first watch Tyrion was the last to retire As always As he stepped into the shelter His men had built for him

he paused and looked back at John Snow. The boy stood near the fire, his face, still and hard, looking deep into the flames. Tyrion Lannister smiled sadly and went to bed. What do you think John's seeing in their shadows? Him a snarling shadow in the midst of it all. Much and more, Aliana. Oh, true. Yes, you see Azora High and sees only himself.

Wow. Mirror and mirror on the line. wall. Wow. Who's the Azora highest of the all of the mall? The highest. It's going to be Tyrion if he opens these

fucking dispensaries across Westrose, bro. He's going to be rich as shit, too. I got a, we got an idea for him. I know, I'm like, call me, call me Tyrion. I'm in my toxic era. It's time to talk to Tyrion. Here he comes. This is such a great chapter, especially when you read

John 2 and Tyrion 1, like, wow. The point of. the end of this chapter is they can be friends. Names are just names are just names. I mean, I have friends who are assholes, right? Like, sometimes you just got to, like, embrace them. Tyrion, I could embrace him.

And also that Tyrion chose to, like, reach across this generational aisle to someone that his family sees is not worthy of their time, housewise, and bastard wise. And then vice versa, right? Like, John's family does not agree, would not be like, yeah, good, I'm fostering this great relationship between you and Tyrion. and Lannister question mark. It's like in succession when Connor Roy makes friends with his counterpart

on the liberal news people on the Pierce Network and he has like that one buddy that he just makes and he's just chit-chatting in the back. You know, like it works out. They work out together. And there's that great line where, you know, Tyrion says, when he's saying, most men would rather deny a hard truth and face it,

which I guess there you go, Benjin and Ned about John and Leanna. and shit too. Whoa. Nice. Wow, that one connects. We did it. True.

Also, Tyrion thinks, not Tyrion, who seldom dreams of dragons anymore because there are no dragons. So we start the chapter, much like Raj told us at the beginning of the chapter, back in the tweets and notes and emails, that Tyrion, you know, is given this dream from a young age, like all of the boys that we have come across in these POVs so far. he's given the dream of being the valiant knight, the shining armor, being able to be honorable, being able to meet the top of masculinity and being able to compete and excel and prowess in being a man that he's expected to be, right?

And then his dream is shattered. His dream is shattered as he goes through this book, but also as he goes through life, you know, like end of his 20s. If he's not a knight now doing courageous things, he might not continue to being a night. So when you look at that line and him saying by the end of the chapter, that little boy who used to dream every day of dragons and yearn for them and look up at the sky and imagine Balearian flying over and read the books about them and stare into the flames, that little boy he knows real truths.

There are no more dragons. It's dead. But by the chapter's end, another little boy is staring into the flames, hard focus still. you know, John Snow might just be dreaming of dragons. And then somewhere else, another little girl is staring into the flames and walking into them. And good news. Yeah, and birthing them soon. There are dragons.

Hot to go by Chapel Rome. Oh my God. What if someone did? I bet that exists. And it's just the dragons coming out of her fucking everything. That'd be sick. Someone should do that. It's Feminamon.

That's not even the same song. but fake fan fake fan whatever I haven't listened to the album in a few months

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she she does not hate it I mean we don't know we'll never know oh my god you were you guys

Chloe was sending me like memes about like what Chapel Rohn throwing kids out of the tower yeah

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