Girls Gone Canon Cast - ASOIAF Episode 275 — AGOT Tyrion III

Episode Date: April 3, 2026

For Chloe's birthday party this week, we're having a crab feast. At the end, an important party guest leaves the Wall. Eliana's reddit account: https://www.reddit.com/user/glass_table_girl Eliana's blog: https://themanyfacedblog.wordpress.com/ Chloe's twitter: https://twitter.com/liesandarbor Chloe's blog: liesandarborgold.com Intro by Anton Langhage

Hey, hello. Welcome back to Girls Gone Cannon reads A Song of Ice and Fire. Episode 275, Tyrion 3 and a Game of Thrones. I'm one of your hosts, Chloe. And I'm another one of your hosts, Eliana. I like the way you said hi. I know, I threw you there. Hello. I don't know. Hey, hello. It was just so frank. It's a special day, everyone. It is. No, it's not. It is. It's a Chloe's 11th birthday Eve. 11th birthday eve. Oh my gosh.

Yes, and on my birthday eve, I'm choosing to go over Tyrion and all of his issues with you all. It's a reminder of how far you come. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. My, um, this is where bleeps would go over my age. My bleep, bleep age, time to do a Tyrion podcast at my age. Which is crazy how things change. Yeah.

You know, like what a decade ago I was meeting. you in person for the first time or seeing in person. It was a little less than a decade, right? Yeah, like in a couple weeks. 2017. No, because I mean like, yeah, but I saw you at 2016, didn't I or no? No, it was 2017. No.

I mean, we like first interacted. I think 2016. Yeah. Yeah, we did interact. I don't know. It's crazy to think I e met you then. I e met you. Eliana met you.

Like soon. Eliana met you. Literally. So crazy. And then you proved that strangers from the internet. are scary, but you could still like that. They are scary. They will bring them in your life.

They will invite other strangers to events. I was telling a friend actually about that, and I was like, I've learned boundaries in the past 10 years. This is a good time to reflect, yeah, and what we've learned. Maybe we should. Maybe we should for our 10th anniversary do like a whole life lesson reflection thing. Uh-huh. We'll cross it next. year.

Yeah. Yeah. Interesting. Interesting. Until then. We're going to do Tyrion. I hope that's okay instead, Eliana.

It's kind of the same. It is the same. You know what we're doing the same this month and last month? Yeah. Is our Patreon special bonus episode. Last month we started mocking J. We did part 1A,

The Ashes. We'll be returning to do the final fortune. chapters of the first act this month in April. That is part one B for the historians. It's going to be great. I'm really excited. Actually, we had a really rip-roaring time dissecting it the other day together, and I'm already itching to get into the rest.

Yeah. I'm ready. Yeah. There's a lot I'm going to have to take out because it's just for us. But it was a good time, and also, if you're curious about... Our timelines, as we've been talking about them here, we do actually go quite in depth in terms of our projected itinerary for our Hunger Games coverage. Yeah, absolutely. It's going to happen. Go listen to the episode at our Patreon if you're in that stranger tier or above. That's at patreon.com slash girls gone canon. C-A-N-O-N. And if you are feeling generous, which we appreciate immensely,

you could always join the Thunder Tier. Folks that are in the Thunder Tier get a few extra perks like access to our Discord. And they also get access to Brappy Hour. Hmm. Yes, you do, which is our brunch slash happy hour in this coming month, this month of April. It will be on April 12th from 1 to 3 p.m. ET on the Discord.

And, yeah, that date actually really worked out for us. It's going to be perfect. Nice and early this month. Yeah. It's like mid-month. That's like a normal time for it to happen. Yeah. Not the last weekend of every month. Yes. I'm excited, though. We actually had a really good time last time. We were together during that. Oh, yeah. Not to brag. But it was really fun last month. It was just like a nice couple of hours of hanging out. Hanging out. Yep. And then Chloe couldn't figure out why she couldn't hear me after that.

And she was like, oh, I muted you. So I didn't have to hear you. I was like, oh, word. Wow, did I say it with that much venom in my voice? No, that was an editorialization. That was me being dramatic as a Leo. Okay, love is blind. It's giving fucking Love Island.

It's giving America's next top model. Okay, diva, diva down. America's next top model, yes. Chloe showed that to me. Yeah, the documentary. We watched that together. It was a documentary. I'm now showing my.

who made America's next top model, and he is getting favorites, and I feel so bad every time one of them is taken out of the game. I'm like, yeah, the actual show. He's, like, really somewhat into it now. And someone he really, like, got sent home today, and I felt like I just, like, killed a kitten in front of him, dude. It was terrible. I was like, no, I'm so sorry. Spoilers, season three. They kill season three? A cat? Yeah, season three. No, like, he looked at me as if they did because he was like invested in the character, bro. I was like, what in the fucking snuff is going on in America's next top model? Jesus.

I don't know. I stopped watching after like cycle 11 originally, so maybe. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. Well, you never know. Maybe we'll cover that. That'd be crazy. 24 cycles of the US version.

Wow. Wow. Wow. We have a list of other things. So maybe. I'll put it on our existential crisis brainstorming episode doc that we have started. It's a thought, I guess. Yeah.

Well, speaking of things that are in docs, we have this email of note that we've pulled this week from our friend Thunderclap, who Chloe didn't like this transition, but we're going with it. Not your best. Thunderclyp says, it occurred to me there's only 47 more opportunities to send you both in email. One, do you have a problem? personal thought on what happened to Benjian. Two, what is the best theory about Benjian's disappearance you heard? Three, do you think Benjian will come back as he did in the bad show,

or do you have a better idea? Okay, that's a lot. Yeah. First of all, in a good way. Yeah. But that's like a lot to think about kind of sweet, bittersweet email. True. Oh my God. I was touched. 47 more opportunities. We die after that. You're right. That's true. We just go away. We're gone. We're going to, we're like, Flo. We're going to be like Melisandra, you know. We're going to take off our necklaces and you're going to find out we're not actually like eight years old. And then we're going to wither away in the dust.

You just tickle me sometimes. You really do. Wow. Yeah, it's fucked up. Don't say that shit again. 47 more opportunities. God damn. We're deactivating the email.

That would be funny. Like as soon as the last episode goes up, it would be so funny. What if we just ghosted everyone? So Y2K bug of us. Oh my God. Okay. Do I have a personal thought? Do I have a personal thought on what happened to Benjent?

Probably got eaten and yeated by fucking whites and shit. More than likely. I don't know. Or eaten by like an animal. I truly probably think that. I don't know. my understanding, I forgot where and why I formed this thought we will find out

what happened to him, but also like in terms of combining one and two. This is like not a super serious answer, but it's kind of a serious answer of like best theory about Benjans' disappearance. I'm going to bring up like the old text of Uron is Benjian. Uron, Tario, and Benjian are all the same person.

Does anyone remember that era? Yeah, but what was so great about that era is like crackpot crap like that, like tinfoil shit like that always ended up having like a morsel of reality or a truth in it where you're like oh shit i never thought of it that way before wait a second and unlocked something else and i love that about tin foil like i really respect it and it was said like eventually those three all got combined into one because everyone was seeing this person's bench and this person's bench in but like

and dd there was there was an earnestness to those i think too you know a purity that in this Since. Not innocence has been lost. This community damn lost their minds. Yeah. Well, I mean, like, people still come up with, like, I mean, I still have tinfoil. Yeah. That's made in earnest.

Well, our community is perfect. Sorry, sorry. Everyone listening to this podcast is perfect. I'm not talking about you all. Yeah. No. Obviously. Not you.

Classy. Classy people out there in the audience. Yeah. So that's my fit. But the rest of this fandom, it's over. It's fucking over. Okay. That's not horrible.

theory that you've heard. It's allowed to be the same if you feel strongly about it. It's pretty much that. I mean, I think there's merit to like the idea of cold hands, but I also feel maybe like there could be that great reveal of like him being an other or a white walker or a white or whatever the fuck, like him being fucking turned and maybe John finds him eventually. That could be terrible. Some real D&D shit, you know? Yeah, I like, I don't think he's cold hands based solely. still on that comment, George made to his editor. But, like, I wouldn't be surprised if he were white. Or, like...

It really sucks, because that was, like, the easiest option, I mean. I'm just... Maybe it's, like, combined. They've combined those things. But also, it could be something different. I don't know what. Maybe he's at Moulstown. I also feel like...

Good for him. Abandon Shipp. Oh, sorry. Not Moles Town. I meant Mother Moll. Two different people. Oh, with Mothers Moll. Yeah.

Moles to Sack. I'm sorry, I got confused for a second with the moles. That's a very reasonable thing to happen. They're so different. Wait till you dig into the rest of this series. It gets heavier. I'm tired. Well, and I think like Benjin is such an interesting.

I think sometimes we put all of this stock into whether or not a theory is true. And sometimes like the answer isn't a theory and he could just have like died. That's true. and I'm prepared for that. He could just be a guy that died and disappeared and showing how winter is. He's not more interesting of a character, but there's a lot more of his background that is mysterious to me rather than where he is currently.

I think the reason why I would like for him to be alive, and I didn't really think about this until last episode, was because I would like to hear how he felt about the disappearance of Leanna, per what you were saying last time. I think it would be really good to have his character journey. And I fear he's just another, like, Eddard. We'll talk about this when I return kind of character for John, and like we won't talk about it because it gives away the story.

Because I also like firmly believe on a logistical sense, Bran and Howland Reed are probably the unlockers of the remaining big lore pieces, right? Those are the characters that are going to get, and Sam maybe. I think the show did something okay with that. not in the way it did it, but just the idea. You know? Yeah. My God, I'm not saying hand it to them, Jesus Christ.

But I'm just saying, like, I think there's something in those three characters, those three characters being, aw. That weekend was the weekend that, um, that season in general was the season that my significant other and I were starting to date date. That guy that sometimes I hang out with. Oh. He's significant and he's another. Is it like, I guess? Is he? I mean, the White Walker himself.

Interesting. Yeah, I just remembered. I'm like, oh, ding. Memory unlocked. What a special weekend. Season 7 sucked balls. But it was very fun to watch with people. That's what mattered.

So I don't know. I don't know if we'll get Benching coming back because I don't know that we will. But if we do, I'd be very interested to see how he connects to it. I just don't expect the plot to come from him. And I just feel like there's not a lot of book space left. So, you know, the pages are tightening up with the story every minute. That's true. Whether they're being written or not, like, you're boxing yourself into things,

and that is the horror of it, right? That's the true horror story. Indeed, life. Yeah. I don't know. I hope we get Benjamin for backstory, bro. I would love some sad Leanna stuff, some whatever. Yeah.

But. Oh, my God. What if he's like... We do have a narrator. He's in a tunnel. Like, he went under one of the tunnels, and he's actually at the neck. Oh, my God. Then I would be like, eat my own words, huh?

Well, no, I'm like, eat him Chloe there he has with howlady. He's just like, yeah, instead of, instead of being in Molstown or with Mother Mole, he's a mole person. I mean, look, I'm just saying that there are a lot of people that are presumed dead in this story

that we don't know if they're dead. And there have been, way more than non-zero amounts of characters that George continues to confirm are alive even though they're thought to be dead in history but not Rhaegar and Arthur Dane they're dead

I mean I don't know but we don't have time to go into the Arthur Dane one today Rangar's definitely fucking dead but like I'm just saying Arthur Dane gained at least that theory gained at least 2% legitimacy. Okay.

And I don't necessarily believe it, but I'm just saying that the odds are in that favor now, because George keeps doing that shit. I think that Ray Gard, though, definitely dead. Like, the whole story doesn't mean anything if he's alive. No, they killed that twink, dude. They killed that twink. We got to start this episode, y'all. Well, no more killing twinks.

Let's jump into the lightning round with Catalan 3, where Wolf's mothering is mothering. she is fierce as she is mothering and protecting her young. Yes, Catalan three. Oh, my God. Go off, mother. You can see how Chloe is really in it right now in America's next top model. Sonsa 1. On the Ruby Ford, a romantic date goes wrong.

Interesting. Very wrong. Eddard 3. Eddard attends a retelling of the events on the Trident, but not that Trident. The same Trident, but a different event on the Trident. A more recent one. Also not the Heron Hall play. No, he's at our musical.

With the handbell segment for Battle of the Bells, yes. It would be great. Brand three, brand weeks and names his dog. Catalan four. In Kings Landing, Catalan learns the assassin's dagger was owned by none other than Tyrion Lannister. This Tyrion? This guy, dude. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

This, yeah, I know, right? I know. I know. I know. I know. T-K. Little T-T. A little.

Down Street, Tyrion. Yeah. Yeah. If you're questioning it, you are right to question it. John 3. Donald Noy teaches John a valuable lesson. Aw. Ettered 4. Ned must plan his own celebratory tournament and secretly gets to meet up with Wifee. Aw. It's just like in the musical. And that brings us here.

My God. To Tyrion 3. In a Game of Thrones at the wall, Tyrion dines with the officers of the Knights watch and hears a plea from them. Later, he hears a different plea from John Snow. That opens us up to Tyrion 3, where we have Lord Mormont asking, do you really have to go, Tyrion? But Tyrion says, yes, Lord Mormont, I must go. They have need on this wall of cunning men like Tyrion. Mormont says, and Tyrion's like, well, I'll scour the seven kingdoms for dwarves and ship them all to you. And they laugh and laugh and laugh together. That was interesting because, like, wait, they do gather dwarves later and ship them to Westeros, but like to King's Landing to Circe.

So I'm like, oh, yo, and people are, you know, yeah. So that's interesting. Crazy how many little seeds that George is planting in this chapter, in the early Tarian chapters that I actually palpably like see them pay off later or come back into play. Like he very much has all these ideas of things he wants to do through Tyrion's plot. It's crazy. Yeah, I feel there's that. There's so many things throughout this. I feel like, hint.

So now some of it I'm just like, is that going to come true? Because this other thing that was talked about in this chapter did, like the idea where Tyrion says, oh, people might think I went missing. And then my brother Jamie would go to war. And I'm like, oh, yeah, Jamie does kind of wild out when you get kidnapped. That's so true. It's great because it's not necessarily like foreshadowing an event, but it's just like laying the groundwork for, you know,

this is what to expect. These are things that are true about this character and about how they interact with other characters. Yeah. Well, he reaches for a crab leg and sucks out the meat. This is like, this is such an important scene to me. It sounds so good right now. Just eating, yeah, the sweet, snow crabs. It sounds so good.

That's it. I just really needed us to dwell on this. I'm thinking about it with like some butter. Yeah, butter. I think butter. Butter makes sense for me for this. This one, yeah, especially because they are eating snow crabs. Because in the Philippines, we also love to eat crabs, but the vibe's different.

We eat it with vinegar. Also good, but not snow. So anyways, oh, John's snow crab. Snow crab. Anyways, Sir Alice Thorne watches Tyrion and declares that Tyrion is mocking them, and Alistair says, maybe we should fight about it in the yard with steel in hand. This is a fun scene. Very witty.

Tyrion looks pointedly at his right hand. Why, I have steel in my hand, Sir Alasur, although it appears to be a crab fork. Shall we duel? He hopped up on his chair and began poking at Thorne's chest with a tiny fork. Roars of laughter filled the tower room. Bits of crab flew from the Lord Commander's mouth

as he began to gasp and choke. Even his raven joined in, calling loudly from above the window. Ah, ha, dual, dual, dual, dual, dual. Sir Alistair Thorne walked from the room so stiffly, it looked as though he had a dagger up his butt. Mormont was still gasping for a breath. Tyrion pounded him on the back. To the victor goes the spoils, he called out.

I claim Thorne's share of the crabs. Okay. So this is where Tyrion proves himself to be like a real one when it comes to his boys. and his boys, I mean his friend John, to an extent. Because I do think this interaction is a little clouded by that. But Alistair and Tyrion, you know, this is going to come up later when it comes to the zombie hand. And this exchange obviously impacts their later interactions and the way that Tyrion trusts and is willing to trust Alistair Thorin. Like, the reason why Alicester is the one chosen to be sent later to deliver the hand is a,

there's some rationale that he's like noble born right so that there's some like weight there but also more mont wanted to separate alice or thorn and john because things were going really badly between them and of course this backfires because alice or thorn has like really poor bedside manner and so he doesn't get an audience sooner i've been watching the pit um and corin half-hand's advice on knowing the men who serve you I do believe that J.R. Mormont sent the wrong man for this job. Yeah, absolutely. Especially when you look at kind of the history, right?

Like, you're sending him to King's Landing, where the house that he supported no longer rules. And the house that sent him to the wall, as we just recount. Yeah. It's kind of a little humiliating in some aspects. So we continue on. And when the laughing's over, the Lord Commander's like, oh, you're wicked for provoking Alasur.

And Tyrion retorts, some people just don't have a sense of humor. That's so true. But when Marsh sticks up for him and he's like, no, he has a sense of humor. He's given some pretty sharp nicknames down to the boys in the yard. And Tyrion's like, oh, I'm sure they have nicknames for him, too, which they do, as we learn. Tyrion declares Alicer Thorn is more suited to mucking stables than training

young warriors but the watch has a plethora of stable boys of sneak thieves of rapers Alicer is one of a kind he's a knight not very many at Castle Black and he's one who did fight bravely in King's Landing and Jeremy Riker pipes up and he's like yeah but on the wrong side because I fought that side too

so this is where we start to get some context and Jeremy reminds us that Tywin Lerickr Manistair gave us a splendid choice. Take the black or see our heads on spikes before even fall. No offense intended, Tyrion, he says. And Tyrion's not offended. He's like, yeah, that's just how my dad is, dude. I get it.

He's terrible. And there's so much in this paragraph that really outlines the issue. It's funny that Jora Moramont, like, in the next bit, he's like, you know, oh, you know, see, you made fun of our ways. and that really, I hear the jest when you make fun of us, you know, and he obviously took offense to that. And they're proud men, but, like, that's not why Alicert is upset, right? Like, I think George did this very intentionally, too, for us to see who,

how these sides, even at the wall, even in a place where you're supposed to have, like, chosen to be a blank slate, how it's not possible as a human to set aside your grudges and reach that kind of peace. And these are proud men who fought for. for the dragon in the rebellion and Tywin also was a traitor. He turned tithes mid-battle and held out till the end and he's like, oh, my bad, I guess I'm going to do this and support them. Of course, Alicester doesn't like John.

Ned Stark is one of the big players of the battle and part of the people that, you know, he rules the North and his best friend was like, jail. Tywin and his best friend were like, jail. Jail for you, jail for you, penal colony for you. And of course he hates Tyrion, right? Like, because Tywin was like jail. And Tyrion comes into his house and then like mocks him about winning in battle at dinner against him, about the crabs, even though it's a joke. Like, I get it.

I don't really care what happens to Alistur Thorne. But like, I see why he was insulted. Like, these are all these old wounds. And Mormont's really funny here because he starts to make it about the pride of the wall. But like, I don't think it is. I think Alasar liked being a knight for the Targaryens, probably better than he likes being at the wall, and he doesn't like being mocked and taken not seriously at the wall. I'm like, I respect the sanctity of the wall, but come on, J. Or, like, you can't be real here. Like, look around you. And also, interesting that we start to cement this whole, like, Targaryen number one, Lannister, number two thing going on, where you start to think about, like, oh, the Targaryans were not invoking their names.

because they're like God, you can't go saying God all the time. But like, they're the shadow, the background here. The Lannsters aren't even the big shit. I guess it's like partially just because like, Jeremy Riker's at least kind of nice about it. He's like, yeah, I don't know. It really sucked. What happened? I was with him.

But Alicester Thornton was like, I don't want to be at the wall. And I'm going to make that everyone else's problem. He's like, I'm going to traumatize generations of new recruits, which is like two wrongs, they'll make a right, Alcer. And at least, you know, honestly. off, you know? Honestly, Alasser and Jeremy, hot take, when we're talking

about Tywin Lannister and the deals that he makes, they got a better deal from Taiwan than Taiwan's own son did. Tyrion, because Tyrion wasn't given the choice of go to the wall. They were like, he was like, no, fuck you, I'm going to kill you. And then

when he breaks out there, like, he's like, I wasn't actually going to kill you. You're just being dramatic. and I'm like, what? I hate you, son. Yeah. At least, like, Tywin Lancer didn't, like,

psychologically abuse you before he sent you to the wall and told you that he would have rather that you died. These boys had it easy. They don't understand. Honestly, compared to, like, Tyrion, arguably, yes. That's my take now. But, no, you're right. There's not enough emotional torture in the world for,

Tyrion, poor Darian. Yeah, they didn't, they didn't love all those things that happened, but I'm also just like, come on, it's worse for Tyrion. Not that, not that, you know, it's a contest, but it is. I'm also like, you're just going to leave snow crab behind like that on the table? This is why Alistair Thornt's a bad person. Yeah, morally, morally, it's giving bad person vibes. How could you leave the snow crab?

That's how I know you are. were morally corrupt. Do you want to tell me your opinion on when Alice or Thorne left the snow crab? Yeah, he's a bad person. Why was he being so crabby? You got to go. You're literally so fired. Oh, shit, I'm going to cry. Why was he being so? I just told you why he was being crabby. Did you not listen? Well, maybe he just was trying to claw his. way back to good graces. That didn't work as well. I was trying. I was trying.

I'm literally sick of you. Okay. Mormont thinks there was a hint of true in what Alicester said, that Tyrion mocks them. And Tyrion's like, everyone needs to be mocked less they take themselves too seriously

and then he asks for more wine. Marsh comments, you have a great thirst for a little man. And Mastra Eamon says softly, Lord Tyrion. Tyrion is quite a large man, a giant, come among us here at the end of the world. We have this beautiful back and forth with Tyrion and Aymn. I take it you're being Aman.

Yeah, I don't remember my Aymn voice, but I'll look inside myself or something. Tyrion answered gently, I've been called many things, my lord, but giant is seldom one of them. Nonetheless, Mr. Aymn said, as his clouded, milk-white, eyes moved to Tyrion's face. I think it is true. For once, Tyrion Lannister found himself at a loss for words. He could only bow his head politely and say, you are too kind, Mastor Amon. The blind man smiled. He was a tiny thing, wrinkled and hairless, shrunken beneath the weight of a hundred years, so as Mastor's collar with its links of many metals hung loose around his throat. I have been called many things, my lord.

but kind is seldom one of them. Hmm. Stupid. That's probably what everybody said. They're like, stupid bitch, being a maister. He could have had it all. Yeah, could have the biggest headache in the world. Rolling in the throne.

Oh, I was thinking rolling in the keep, the red keep. Oh, rolling in the keep. Yeah. And he played it. Wow. Wow. Yes, thank you. Floored right now.

I'm literally floored. It makes sense for me to be aiming between me and Chloe because I have the bad eyesight between us. Oh, I was going to say, you are the elder sister. Oh, that too. Go first. That too. Dracaris.

Little giant symbolism I got in there like we talked about last week, week before. I think it's intentional. I think George is focusing on this thing. I love how that, like, continues to unfold. That's something that absolutely persists throughout Tyrion's storyline up until book five. And we can see how it has played out thematically, but like I would really love, I would really love to see a culmination of all of it. That's it. That's it. 47 more episodes of that, folks.

I really wish, yeah, no, I actually have more in this episode of things, I wish. So later, Later, Mormont offers Tyrion a chair at the fire, a cup of old spirits. I can't talk today. A couple mold spirits. And they talk about the plan for him to continue home from here, that three men will help him back to Winterfell. Tyrion offers that maybe my friend John Snow should do one of them. But Mormon says the young ones should forget their old lives, ASAP,

because these old men that I have here have done such a good job of it, JK, and a visit would stir feelings up. He comments that his sister, Mage, rules bear island and that she has nieces he's never seen and swallows. Oh! His name is also mage because she's a mage,

arguably, maybe. She's not. I don't think so, yeah. She's not, but I like the idea for two seconds. Hmm. Well, that was a tinfoil in earnest.

Huh. I see. Is that why you defended them so much earlier because you're like, I'm going to be tinfoiling. Earnestly. Self-interested. This is such great setup for this kind of build-up for Mormont's reveal about the White Walker, seeing them.

It's leading to kind of this grand moment, and we have to break Mormont down a little bit from kind of this outer view we've had of him. This section of the book in general, we're spending a lot of time on that, right? Like John's chapters are about to start covering more. Moremont by the end of this book a little stronger. So we're starting to really build up his character, which is important because you can tell here that like for Mormont, it has to be more than what it seems, right? Like he's being kind of a little pompous, a little grandstanding about it all, but also

the great sacrifice. He's framing like how this wall is great sacrifice and building it up and moving it along and right here talking about his family. Like, he needs it to be this, dude. Like, was it worth it if it isn't this great thing? What if, like, was this worth never meeting his nieces, never seeing his home again, never making righteous with his son again, which like, I don't know, that's not, you know, I mean, let him go.

He's got apple. But he has to have this be worth it. Like, protecting mankind has to be worth it. That's who he is, and that's what he wants his life to be about. And he wants us all to mean as much of his life as yet remains. You know, what is honor? What is duty? Winds and words. I mean, that's wind and words is that entire speech is also Moormont here. Him talking about his sister and the nieces he'll never see. And I think it's really

observant and empathetic of Tyrion to have seen that in Mormont, right? To be like, this matters to him. And as you said, Mormont needs it to have mattered. He needs it to have meaning for all the things that he gave up. And arguably, maybe it does, especially. with the great ranging and like what they find out and everything but yeah especially because what his son went and like was a lunatic after but I think this kind of idea that you've articulated here of like I need everything that I this hardship everything that I've gone through to have some sort of meaning and I what you were willing to do for it to have meaning I think is something that plays very well with the themes of

De Neres's story and where it will go. Yeah, that's a great call. They're definitely like the, not tertiary, I'd say even secondary themes, right? Yeah. What is it worth? What is home worth? Yeah, like, if Tyrion will

kind of see that. And like we see it with Stannis too. Why did I sacrifice? I've sacrificed so much it has to come to something. It has to mean something. Unless it doesn't. Yeah. Damn.

I mean, well, Men's lives have meanings. But not women. That's all Mormont's doing. Not their women. Women's lives do not have meaning. MRA. Oh, my God.

So John is a boy. He's just a boy. He can't save the world yet. Not yet. Mormont says he needs strong swords. And Tyrion's like, well, thank you. I hope I can repay the kindness. Goodbye.

And Mormont's like, you can. by using your influence. Get help for the Knights Watch. Send help. And he's like, literally, we have less than a thousand now and only a third of them are fighting men. If an attack comes, that's only three men per mile of the wall. And Tyrion's like, hey, it's three and a third, like round up a little. 3.33 repeating. Do they have... When did the concept of decimal points exist? questions that I'm sure exist on the like answers are

on the internet anyways yeah that's this is a fucking foreshadowing too okay speaking of foreshadowing this is a foreshadowing but like this is to come yeah book three book three there's something about Mormont's plea here to Tyrion

and language of speak to them for us tell them of our need you've seen for yourself my lord it very much feels like Tyrion with the widow of the waterfront involantus to me which we will one day cover in our free cities but we're mocking Jay

Pilled now. We're hungry games built now. I would also add that it has kind of that setup of Barra when Ned goes to visit her and she makes him promise her promise me my lord like she never meant no harm but blah blah promise me

and then also loops back to Leanna's promise me. Right? Like that kind of quiet theme coming to the front of like, please, like, promise me, I need you to promise me to do this thing. It kind of keeps coming up that way. So it's kind of a great echo playing throughout these plots. Yeah. Wind and words.

Aw. Mormont tells Tyrion the tale of sending Benjian out to search for Jan Royce's son and says to him, Tyrion, what's the best theory that you've heard about Benjian? But that son, whom we all know from the prologue, was a good. Green Knight who insisted on command. Mormon had sent him out with two men, not wanting to offend Jan Royce, and goes, more fool-eye. And mildly unrelated.

But lo-key, this is a bizarre thought that I had of, like, maybe we shouldn't have deputized everyone in the realm to just execute deserters of the Knights Watch, mildly informed by aria's chapters as well. And I know why it's like on Ned as the Lord, but like, and I get the in-book rationale that someone who deserts is willing to do anything for their freedom, and it's introducing you to that, like, broken man theme. Mm-hmm. Right?

Mm-hmm. Like, they're too far gone. Yeah, but I'm also like, and I understand that maybe they just decided it was, like, a waste of resources and, like, too risky, because the person would probably be executed anyway for desertion, but I'm also, like, maybe you should have sent him back to the, like, like, send, like, I make it a policy to send them back to the night's watch. to be tried and for justice, because at least then we would have all fucking known a little bit.

Also, like, makes you wonder how it started traditionally, because obviously Ned wasn't the first one to institute it. Right. So it makes you wonder if it started, like, did it start to cover up the Whitewalkers? Like, was it a cover up to not spread fear throughout the nation? I guess I figured it was, like, to just make everyone stay at the penal colony that didn't used to be a penal colony. you know, I assumed that it started, like, at the very time that the Nights Watch started, and everyone else was, like, in on it. They're like, yeah, that's so dishonorable.

I will all, we will all kill you if you desert. It's interesting, because it just brings to mind, like, some of these absurd things that happen in the Kingsguard, right? Like, Lucie, oh, Luke, he was very lusty. He was just thrust in all night long until he had 16 brats, but like how he was executed obviously for that. So I guess like I get the idea of disodering, but it does kind of feel like why would you have to kill someone?

Like did he see something? I don't know. And like over time it was lost. Like are they out here just like putting bullets in the back of the head of people that have seen others? I don't know. Yeah. I do think it's like different to an extent because I don't know why.

It feels like you have to be more pure in terms of your sexuality. as a Kingsguard, where it's on the Knights Watch. Yeah. It's kind of like a, you know, subtly agree. Like, you can fuck, but keep it to yourself. Yeah, they're like, people are fucking. They're fucking. People love to fuck, and that's just something we can't stop here

because also it's freezing cold and there's no pay. Yeah, they've kind of accepted it there at the wall. And it's fine. Question mark, question mark, question mark, question mark. But not in, it isn't, it isn't. Should we point to modern day and looking at the last two Lord Commend? Anders, who absolutely were both assassinated. Well, not for fucking.

No, not for fucking. That's very true. It's different. John's a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. Just a little bit because he had sex, but not like because of the sex, more like with the who.

Yeah. Anyway, so I just think things to think about. Tyrion. Tyrion also fucks a lot, but not here. Turian does fuck. Yeah. Sometimes. True.

Mormon's Raven, though. agrees about all this and calls out fool, fool. He's got such a big vocabulary. Mormont had sent Garrid, a man who had been on the wall longer than even Mormont had, but Garrett had fled and broke his vows, and Mormont was like, I really just didn't expect that until Eddard Stark sent me his head. No word of Royce, waymar Royce, in case you're all wondering, which I assume you all know because he's in the prologue. It's like a big deal.

Now Benj and Stark has gone missing. It happened pretty recently. In between chapters, yeah, I'm just. Just like, you probably know him more than you know, Bronzion Roy's at this point in a first read, which is not, this is not your first read. We're on the last chapter of this character reread. I would be shocked if this is your first read. I would be shocked. Yep.

And now Benjian's also gone missing, so that's of topic. He counts off who he could send to bring Benjin back. Thorn, Marsh, but no, no, no, no, no, he says. I know what they are. The Knight's Watch has become an army of sullen boys and tired old men. Apart from the men at my table tonight, I have perhaps 20 who can read, and even fewer who can think or plan or lead. Once the watch spent its summer's building and each Lord Commander raised the wall higher than he found it.

Now it is all we can do to stay alive. 20 good men. That's exactly what I was going to say. That's why I put in that space. I was like, this is fucked up. No more 20 good men. Yeah, dude, there it is. It's canon.

It's right there, dude. I thought when you said, like, the, he knows what they are. I thought you were, like, channeling that dog and that meme of, I know what you are. I know what you are. No, I wasn't, but I'm obsessed with that. Thank you. Thanks. You're welcome.

Tyrion promises the king will hear of Mormont and the watch his needs, and that his father and brother will too. He means it. They will hear it. But he doesn't say the rest. you know, that Robert will probably ignore him. Tywin will ask if he's stupid. You know that meme? Yes.

Is he stupid? Yes. That's what I mean by that. I love that one. Is he stupid? Is he stupid? Me too. Tywin will ask, is he stupid?

He will in that way too. And Jamie would laugh. Honestly, though, I actually don't know. Robert might listen because it's Morbant and Benjin related. Anyways. It would have been better if it came from Ned. That's true. Yeah.

Just saying. Yeah. Like, why did Mormont not write Ned before the king came? I guess. Why did he not tell Benjian to talk to Ned about it? I guess maybe they did. I guess Ned has to deal with his house right now. I did.

I guess he didn't think about it. Like, it goes to show how long Mormont has been maybe at the wall. And also how removed the Knight's Watch is from the rest of the seven kingdoms. No, but that's why Benjian went down too. Yeah. Because I'm just like, I guess, yeah, it goes to show because they have no idea that, like, Tyrion has no real power and doesn't understand how what, that no one gives a fucking king's landing about anything. Especially Robert, yeah. Especially Robert.

He could have been made to care, I think, just a little. But anyway, Mormon. Yeah, that's true. Mormon asked how many winters Tyrion's, like, that's a re-quette. No, he doesn't. You can't ask how old someone is. And Tyrion answer is eight or nine. Oh my God, same.

Mormon comments that all of them were short, too, that Nantirin thinks that he had been born in a terrible winter that had lasted almost three years, but he only remembers the spring that came after. Ooh, I do love this conversation. That must mean something, right? What does it mean that, oh, a terrible winter that lasted almost three years, but a spring that came after?

What does it mean? A dream of spring, question mark? Yeah. A dream of spring just, just, referenced. Yeah, true, true. So he goes on, the lessons continued. He says, Mormon declares when I was a boy,

a long summer meant a longer winter to come. This one was nine years. A tenth year would soon be upon us, and Tyrion says, well, when I was a boy, my wetner said one day, if men were good, the gods would give the world a summer without ending. Maybe they were in that. By the way, no. Men are terrible and

Mormont's not amused. He's like, I'm being serious. Stop being a climate denier. Amen heard from the citadel. The end of summer is coming. He clutches Tyrion's hand tightly. And he's like, you must make them understand darkness is coming. Okay. But like, again, in Tyrion's defense, winter was like an episode long. It was one episode. I watched it. Mormon says There are wild things in the woods Dyerwolves and mammoths And snow bears The size of orrocks

And I have seen darker shapes In my dreams And so now See this is what I'm saying About the whole major thing Like J.R. Mormand getting green dreams Or maybe some

Some sort of dreams sent to him confirmed I'm just saying I'm just saying No I think you're right I think it adds credence To the idea of his raven too, like potentially being Blood Raven.

Yeah. Yeah. And then he's like, he's using that raven as a Wi-Fi extender to blast into Mormon's head. Yeah. But also at the time he literally sees Mormont as the most useful person, right, who actually is trying to like take care of the world and not let the White Walkers win. So like, it actually makes sense that he's being shown dreams.

Yeah. Blood Raven is literally. is literally trying to like warn him of shit like constantly and i respect that like jr mormon he's piecing the things together he's like dude the others are fucking here he's like something's happening i haven't seen them but like put two and two together tyrian oh he's piecing it all together but too late just like ned but just like ned where they're both doing it just too late it's so hard and then it has to pass on it's so hard being over the age of 30 in a Song of Ice and Fire.

Yeah, you just die. They'll kill you for them. Yeah, they'll kill you for that. No, literally, like, Ned's what? I don't know about you, but George R. Martin would kill Ned Stark with a hammer, bro. That's probably, like, what, 36? Yeah, dude, that's a scary age. That's going to be, I'm about to be Ned Stark age, new thing.

I know. New age just dropped. It's Ned Stark age. Dude. I was Catlin age, then Lady Stoneheart age. and then I was seriously age Okay Anyways

Um Mormont kind of continues And he's like Okay Well what about these fisher folk Near Eastwash that say they glimpsed White Walkers Whoa white walkers mentioned

On the shore And Tyrion's like Well the fisher folk of Lannisport Often glimps Merlings And I'm like yeah that's various Mormon continues on And says Dennis Malister writes great numbers of mountain folk

are moving south past the shadow tower. They're running, but from what? And then he says, Winter is coming, and when the long night falls, only the night's watch will stand between the realm and the darkness that sweeps from the north. The gods help us all if we are not ready.

Tyrion plays him off with a joke about, oh, I need sleep for riding, first light, ha-ha. And more months like, tell them, make them believe. This is the literal first time we call them White Walkers in the entire series, by the way. Interesting. Yeah. Right here. It doesn't happen as often as like the others, but it does. It's like, it's there.

Yeah. Interesting. And a big reveal. This is it, right? Where what? The Whitewalkers. What are they? Well, like Eliana mentioned earlier, if you're paying attention and you read the prologue recently. I didn't, but you would recognize these guys. If you're reading these like chronologically, you would have just recently. It wasn't that long ago. on Tyrion 3. We just did Asanza one chapter. I'm not going to yuck anyone's yum. Like, you can do whatever you want, you know?

Yeah. But we just read Asanza. That shows how close, how early we are. It's the last time we will ever be this early. 47th more opportunities. I can't believe Thunderclapp said that shit. That was so messed up. Off with his tongue. Off with his tongue.

Quiet Lion theory. Dine jester. Quiet Lion. Dine jester, thunderclap no longer is jesting for me. Wow. Off with his tongue. I'm just kidding. I would never do that to thine jester.

Oh my gosh. So, Morban and the bird make off in the night. What a weird way that this is phrased. He's a feathery. Tyrion walks as quickly as he can. Steering up at the ball. Is that the name? I don't know.

That's what we say in my friend group that is like three people that, You know. We say feathery and scaly. Is there a different name for furries who are birds? Yes. They are referred to as avians. Oh, it's like horses are equins. Oh.

Featheries is what they call them, too. Oh, okay. Avians. Sometimes they call them avian American. Oh, interesting. You can be avian and not American. Anyways.

Just like how there are Asian-Canadian. There are. Yeah. Anyways, Tyrion's walking as quickly as he can, staring up at the wall, which is glimmering in the night, and he knows he should sleep, but he can't help it. He wants to see it one more time. Pretty valid.

Real. Tyrion knows he can't make the terrible, no good stares in the wall, so he goes to the iron cage, yanks on the bell rope, and wants to be pulled up. He holds the bar swinging side to side, then he passes the towers, his tower even, where a fire seems to be started, and the Lord Commander's Dark Towers.

And one of the things that's like said to be frozen in the wall is like a catapult that isn't truly functional. I'm like, wow. What else is it there? What battle is that from? Yeah. You know, like what time? That's crazy. There's those sentinels that are in the wall.

I know that. Like, I don't know. I'm curious. Melt the wall. Bring it down. Yeah. Literally though. Literally.

Literally. Listen to the wall by, from Hades town. Oh, right. As you do it, you know? The wall. That's why we build the wall. We build the wall We go free.

Far off, where you can see the light of Moles Town and moonlight on the water where icy streams have come from the mountain. And finally, a voice behind him says, Seven Hells, it's the dwarf, and the cage slides sideways and he has brought out.

The men are fine. They're kind of sour and annoyed with Tyrion, but Tyrion's like, I just want to look. So they let him, they tell him to be careful, and they go back to their fire inside while he goes to look down below. low. He looked off to the east and west at the wall stretching before him, a vast white road with no beginning and no end in a dark abyss on either side. West, he decided for no special reason, and he began to walk that way, following his pathway nearest the north edge where the gravel

looked freshest. His bare cheeks were ruddy with the cold and his legs complained more loudly with every step, but Tyrion ignored them. The wind swirled around him. gravel crunched beneath his boots. While ahead, the white ribbon followed the lines of the hills, rising higher and higher until it was lost beyond the Western horizon. Wow. Bangor, George. It was.

Honestly, I get it. And it really plays into that giant imagery from earlier in the chapter. Tyrion walks along for quite a while until a muffled voice calls from to Halt. And of course, it's just John Snow. So Tyrion greets him and goes snarkly. have a chat. Tyrion tells him that he was caught by a whim and asks if he can pet Ghost without losing an arm. Oh, wow, so blessed. He's so blessed. Ghost has been growing since we last saw him and he is now as high as Tyrion's chest now and Tyrion's like, I feel like the dog's

going to be bigger than me next time. John had drawn Nightgarde again, thanks to Sir Alistair, and Ghost has not learned to juggle quite yet. cute callbacks and John kind of it's kind of cute because John's very serious about his first job

he's really serious that's why like he meant it when Tyrion came up on him he was like halt who the fuck goes there like oh okay it's Tyrion like he was really in deep and he's been training the boys

and it's kind of cute because he's really good friends with Tyrion but I think he thinks Tyrion pays more attention than he does So John's like, yeah, and Gren held his own this morning, and Pip didn't drop his sword so much, and he's like yammering on, like, these guys are completely, you know, like, guys, everyone knows. And Tyrion's like, okay, who the fuck are those people? I literally have never learned their names in my life. And then John's like, well, Pip is the small boy with the large ears, and I've been training them because Sir Alasor sucks, remember? It's, like, just really cute. It's very cute because, like, Tyrion, you know, isn't as involved.

as John probably thinks he is in his life. Yeah. Teenage stuff. Also, you're calling that out, it makes me realize, like, the way that the chapter opens and where Tyrion is eating, and obviously it's with leadership of the watch, but all those people have last names, you know? The people that John is getting to know. There's a moment where he says snow to Mormont, and Mormon goes, who?

Oh, ah, right, snow. Yeah. I mean, it is confusing when you deal with a lot of snow. It is confusing. Well, and also, like, it's just a bastard. name. Yeah, oh, that's true. There are bastards at the watch. Like, he's just another snow. That's true. You can't just call people by their last name when all the other bastards have the same last name. That's confusing. But, yeah, that's kind of confusing of Tyrion and.

Tyrion's hanging out with the C-suite. Yeah. Like, John's like, he's an operations executor. He's, he's new to the place. He's with the interns. Yeah. Absolutely. He's with my cat, Jeharis. Yeah, he's like, no, no, no. I thought we hired Jehires recently. Oh, that's true. He's now a production lead or something. He's not an executive producer. He's just a producer. Allie's still EP. You absolutely pulled a Jaramormon slash Jeremy. You don't even know what's going on with your employees. I don't even know my own recruits. Holy shit. You don't know. You don't know. But yeah, I don't know. I think this is kind of a fun scene because it starts to also set other things up, like, because John's complaining about how his encounter with Alcer means that the

watch commander, which, even though it's phrased weird here, means Jaron, like, has taken an interest in John, which he does. It's just not in the way that John thinks. John's like, ugh. Now he's, like, coming down hard on me. I'm like, no, he's testing you. He's seeing it. And, like, he, I'm sure that Jarek can also see, like, what we see in these paragraphs where John started to get to know his brothers. And he, after his lesson with Donald Noy, I started supporting them too. Mm-hmm. Yeah, that's a great call.

He's definitely already the idea of grooming him to be something more. Yeah. It's appearing. Yeah. John asks Tyrion to walk with him for about a mile of the wall, and Tyrion, like, internally he's screaming, which is me, IRL. But he's like, yes, only if we walk very slowly. And John's like, they didn't say how slow or fast I had to walk.

So sure, man. So Tyrion offers John on their walk to deliver a message home to his family and John's like, I don't know, tell Rob he's gonna command the Knights Watch and keep him safe so he might as well take up needlework with the girls and have Mick and melt down his sword for horseshoes. Ouch, that feels like it does happen but not in the way that he wants. The sword does get melted down but not Rob's. And the girls do take up needlework without Rob, because he's dead. Because he's dead. Dead. Dead. Dead.

But yeah, Tyrion's like, Bet, so Rob is bigger than I am, so I can't say those words you want me to say. Those are people who are much taller than I am words. But, you know, I can, can we adjust the message? Maybe change the branding here, the positioning. And John's like, yeah, how about you just explain to Rick in where I went, if you can? And tell him he can have my things while I'm away. Aw. Yeah, I don't know.

Also sad because, like, Tyrion doesn't have a good family, so he doesn't know. What to say? Yeah. He's like, what the fuck? He's like, why are you sending messages? He's like,

what does the drug? I sent to my family. Nothing. You like your family? I know. It's really sad. Tyrion's chapters, yeah,

no, that's true. He's like, can't really recognize this in John. None of the language is. He's like, can't relate. Yeah. He's like, you really don't want to kill them.

Are you sure you don't want to kill them? For the ninth time, are you sure? Yeah. Do they want to kill you? Because, like, Are you sure? I sometimes feel as if I, my siblings wish to kill me or my dad.

Is that not normal? I'm just a boy. Honestly, he probably does think it's normal, clearly. A-I-T-A. And it like kind of heightens now when you put it like that. Why it's so sad that, like, Tyrion's chapter says that the way that John sounds, when he's like acknowledging that Tyrion's going to leave soon, he says, John sounds strangely sad. And I'm like, oh, Tyrion's.

so unused to kindness and the idea that someone might want him around that he can't fathom that John actually is sad about him leaving because they are friends and that is how people feel. And also like vice versa, John also can't fully like word it because he's a 14 year old or 15 year boy. Yeah. He's like, I don't know how to voice that I have feelings, but also 27 year old man is my friend. Oh. It's, wait, Tyrion was almost his first mini, like,

parent figure on the road, honestly. Yeah. Like, outside of Benjin. Like, they're legitimately friends. And that's his older brother. Yeah. Kind of. His uncle.

In, like, a big brother, big sisters organization kind of way. But, like, actually. That's uncle. That's unc. Yeah. That's Nunk, I should say. N-U-N-C. N-N-C.

N-N-K. Oh my God. Thank you. They legitimately are friends, and you can see it in like the vulnerability of how they talk to each other. Like after we've seen them in a lot of chapters together, considering how little of the book that we've gotten that it really therefore drives home that relationship. Like they're being really honest with each other right now about their grievances and their sadness. Well, and mostly like John Teterion, because as you said, Big Brother like relationship. and like they joke together in a way that is very

it's not Tyrion performing in that way right like him, Tyrion's not wearing his humor as an armor like he was at that dinner earlier today he's telling like when he's telling John he's like, yeah, I'm not saying that's Rob, he's bigger than he like, what the fuck? Like there's a truth to it and also Tyrion, I thought it was funny when John's like oh and can you deliver a message to Rick and Tyrion like in his head

is like damn everyone's asking so much of me today so many months. Also like this guy worse somehow. Like, now I have to talk to the three-year-old who doesn't speak and you're asking me to explain a very complex topic to him. Yeah. How do I explain to the three-year-old?

You think this is easier than Rob. He's like, I'll aim shorter is what John said. John was like, I'll aim lower on the scale. Maybe Ricken and you won't. Like, what the fuck, John? Yeah. And then also he has to deliver that shit to like the king and Taiwan

and everyone. Tiran's like, the fuck. Dude, he's like busy. He's got a busy next five years. That's how I would feel. He's got a busy like next year, 47 chapters worth of years. Tyrion's like, maybe I could just take like a letter to them. And John's like, well, Ricken can't read. Jesus fucking Christ.

And then John's like, what about Bran? And he's like, oh, I don't even know what to tell Bran. And then he pleads with Tyrion and asks him, please, please do something to help him. You gave me help when I. I needed it. It's actually beautiful. Yeah. Yeah, it really is.

And Turin, I don't know, I think he's caught out. This is him being vulnerable. He's like, I don't even know what I would say. Like, what do you mean? Like, how am I supposed to help this kid who's just gone through like this horrible, life-changing thing? And he kind of- Also, he probably thinks it was my family, because his whole family thinks it was my family.

That's true. He's like, as you said last chapter, my sibling suspiciously wanted this child dead even more than they usually want. other children dead. Yeah, literally. He phrases it, you know, as a joke because he does. He's like, it's like asking a lame man to teach a cripple how to dance. And I actually, that language stood out to me as interesting, though, because I had written

an essay a long time ago about the usage of the word dance to mean fighting very often in a song of ice and fire. And I'm like, I mean, maybe Tyrion does teach Brian a little bit about strategy and warfare for all I know. Well, and also it's fun because later Jamie and Ilyn, right? Teaching a lame man teaching a cripple how to dance. That happens to his brother. Oh, true.

True. Mm-hmm. Yes. I did love it, though. I love it as a phrase, and I think it's fun because Tyrion gets to embrace these phrases about cripples, bastards, broken things often. Yeah. I like E. Well, Tyrion knows what it is to love a brother.

and... Aw. Yeah, and he says, he'll give brand whatever help is in his power. And Snow says, thank you, my lord of Lannister. And he really means it. And John takes off a glove and offers Tyrion his bare hand. That's lewd.

The lewdest thing you can do is hold hands. And calling him friends. This is actually so beautiful. Yeah, it is. And then Tyrion says, well, most of my kin are bastards. But John's the first one that I've had as a friend. So he takes off his glove and they shake and they put their gloves. back on and John walks to the low icy parapet where beyond the wall can be seen wild and darkness.

And as you said, it's very sweet, but also rereading this in my head. I'm like, La bow! Tyrion just admitted the treason to John about his niece and nephews. Right, because when I read that, I was like, what? Tyrion, you can't just go saying that. And I guess who's he going to tell it to, like a weirdwood tree? But like, what? Which ones?

I only know one of yours, Joy Hill. I'm like, it is remarkable to me that John, like, didn't really think about that. He's, he's, like, a 14-year-old. He's, like, such a hymnbo at this stage a little. But I'm just, like, Tyrion just admitting the treason out there to everyone. Out loud. And John's young, so he doesn't even, it doesn't even track for him. He's like, okay, whatever.

He's going to find out one day. I mean, he must know a little. because people probably talk about it to him, given him being John Snow. So, never mind, I take that back. He might have walked in on, like, someone having sex, like, Brand did that one time. Yeah. Or twice. Brand did it twice.

I forgot. He loves walking it on people having sex. That's true. Or he, I guess John just assumes, like, obviously it means, like, the men are having back. Because that's how it was for him and his family. No one could assume that it would be the queen. Oh, my God. Except for Ned.

Ned assumed it. Again, with very little evidence, but whatever, the plot. Oh, my God. Okay. Again, lots of things that now I want in Tiwau, new thing that I want, beyond John Connington's storyline, and Arian's storyline, and how much I care about these things, which is a lot. But I want to see the way that Tyrion and John's relationship evolves after everything that they've been through. Because these two have been fucking through it. Like, one of them's, like, literally dead.

And the other one killed his dad. Like, a lot has happened. And I just want to know how all of this is going to strain their friendship, right? Like, how have they grown into such different people that they've become the kind of people who cannot be friends? Because, like, that's a real thing when you grow up. I mean, I feel like it could be the opposite. Like, they might rekindle their friendship and it might be really conflicting. considering Tyrion's going to be backing Danny

and he's going to have his BFF, maybe the king in the north, question mark, I don't know, but probably. But he's going to have his BFF up at the wall here or in the north, and he's going to have to be like, which Targaryen kid do I want eventually. Yeah.

And John and his friendship came first. It's going to be really interesting, but I guess it will be solved for a little bit there when De Neres is like, I fell in love with the doppelganger of my enemy Ned Stark. Which again is another thing that I really want to see happen because I think that's really interesting. Yeah, that's fun. Love that. And again, the handshake, like, the fact that they're in negative degree-ass weather. The wind is whipping around and at a time, not to go dune on it, but, you know, like your warmth is all you have on the wall. So wasting your warmth, taking your glove off and the time it takes to shake hands on it and be like we're blood brothers basically, maybe.

I mean, bloodunks. Maybe. They actually literally might be. No one knows. They might be. You just never fucking know. No one knows. You definitely probably have some blood relation.

Who knows? All that said, like that takes a lot of actual physical effort and it's a risk. And you could end up giving yourself fucking, you know, uh. blackened fingers that are going to fall off in the night of frostbite. Yeah. But you took that risk to be blood brothers to your handshake, and I think that's cool. That's very intimate. Yeah, I agree.

It's beautiful. I love this line, too. It's so beautiful. This is friendship. I love friendship. Tyrion followed him, and side by side they stood upon the edge of the world. Is he a flat earther? Is he stupid?

I'm sorry? Is he stupid? I do, man. I want Tyrion John friendship continuation or not friendship. I don't know. I want Tyrion and John. Continuation arc. Yeah.

Good for you. Wholesome. He looks across the thickets of Wildwood at the gray, green sentinels and the pale white weirdwoods beyond. But closer to the watch, to the wall, it's bare because the watch eats quite a bit of firewood. From up here, he can see the wood, though, where it becomes a little. little more dangerous, the dark trees seemed like a second wall built parallel to the first.

They kind of are. And we close out with, out there the trees grew huge and the rangers said they seemed to brood and knew not men. It was small wonder the night's watch named it the haunted forest. As he stood there and looked at all that darkness with no fires burning anywhere, with the wind blowing and the cold like a spear in his guts, Tyrion Lannister felt as though he could almost believe, the talk of the others. The enemy in the night. His jokes of grumpkins and snarks no longer seemed quite so droll. My uncle is out there, John Snow said softly, leaning on his spear as he stared off into the darkness. The first night they sent me up here. I thought Uncle Benjamin will ride back tonight and I'll see him first and blow the horn. He never came though, not that night and not any night.

Give him time, Tyrion said. Far off to the north, a wolf began to howl. Another voice picked up the call. Then another. Ghost cocked his head and listened. If he doesn't come back, John Snow promised. Ghost and I will go and find him. He put his hand on the dire wolf's head.

I believe you, Tyrion said. But what he thought was, and who was? and who will go find you? He shivered. Great episode end, like chapter end. I love that last passage. Who watches the watchman? What's important, though, is that whenever we do one of these, like, that A, we knew that A, Chloe had to be John, but B, whenever we talk about a wolf howling, one of us, which everyone's not talking, makes sure to do a wolf noise in the background.

And that's partnership. I just feel like, you know, we don't need to outsource our sound effects all the time. Sometimes we can make them ourselves. Yeah. And I think it's important that we have the wolves there. They're part of the dialogue. They are important. Yeah.

Yeah. I agree. As for who will go find John if he goes out there missing? I mean, obviously he makes it back this time. But, like, I could see him, like, going out again or, like, you know, disappearing in some way, like, being dead, whatever. and so who will go find you? I was like, Bran? Maybe, I guess.

But... Maybe. Also, thematically, I do think there's something interesting about the idea of who will go find you, who loves you enough, who cares about you enough to go find you. And it's kind of sad that no one goes to find Tyrion emotionally. Maybe John will. Yeah, to bring you back from the brink right after.

Maybe that's the thing. Maybe John will go find Tyrion emotionally. Friendship. For the first time in forever. John is going to fix the male loneliness epidemic, even though he's really lonely from book three on. I really hope he does if he comes back to life and all ever. We've been waiting a while for him, but when he comes back,

I am very interested in the conflict it's going to bring when they all are reunited together. And if we find out something about John's parentage or not, even just the fact that he has a crown. Yeah. And Danny has a crown. And that he's been dead. The answer is just like kiss. Yeah.

But what's it going to be? I mean like I think it like if things were not so complicated and they had time to sit. Like it could have been really interesting for John to be like, yeah. So Tyrion, I went out there to go find my uncle. I had sex. You were right. Sex is awesome. The world is cool but terrible and I'm dead.

Yeah. And then I died. And then Tyrion would have a lot of stuff to tell John too. I mean, like, we'll go over all those things that he will tell John in this read-through. But like, wow, so interesting. I save things up to tell Chloe sometimes. Yeah, absolutely, because we know we have at least one time a week we're going to speak. Yeah.

This week, or at least in the past several days, it's been two times. We're very blessed. Yeah, actually, we've talked a lot. And I will listen to your voice even more. this week. It's called editing. Editing. Wow. What a concept. Thanks, Eliana, for editing these episodes. Thanks, Chloe, for outlining.

It's very appreciated, of course. And I appreciate that you were born. Twelve years ago, nine winters ago. Oh, thank you. It's been a pleasure being alive, I guess. It actually scratched that, but. I look forward to doing Tyrion with you again next week. Ooh. Okay.

Tyrion. Wow. Wow. Dunger men. Oh, true. Egot. We'll be back next week. Looking forward to that.

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They're way better at me. They're way better at saying that than. I am clearly. I can't even say regular words, so let's pack it up. My favorite platform to listen to Girls Gone Canon on. I don't listen to us. I would rather scream and pull my hair out. It depends. Sometimes I'll listen just to hear the passages. I'm a good passage listener. But my favorite is Patreon. Even for free membership, you can listen to all our public episodes on there. And there are other tiers like the $5 and up. Stranger Tiers. where you get a bonus episode every month on a topic that we usually select or sometimes you select.

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We'll find other ways. There's always a way. There's always a way. If he doesn't come back, Chloe and I will go find him. Yeah, that's like taking jobs away from me. You know, it's fucked up. In this economy? In this economy?

I don't want it. Goodbye. But you do. Goodbye. Well, no, you don't. I'm