Girls Gone Canon Cast - ASOIAF Episode 276 — AGOT Tyrion IV

Episode Date: April 10, 2026

Tyrion is outsmarted by Lady Stark, and strays from the usual path of his life. Eliana's reddit account: https://www.reddit.com/user/glass_table_girl Eliana's blog: https://themanyfacedblog.wordpress.com/ Chloe's twitter: https://twitter.com/liesandarbor Chloe's blog: liesandarborgold.com Intro by Anton Langhage

Hello and welcome to Girls Gone Canon reads A Song of Ice and Fire episode 276, Tyrion 4 in A Game of Thrones. I'm one of your hosts, Chloe. And I'm another one of your hosts, Eliana. Welcome. Welcome. We've left the north. This is a classic.

It is. This is a huge classic. Like, there's something really fun about reading Tyrion and Agat, which is like doing this skip, right, over this big, lots of chunks of characters. Like, sometimes you go, this one's. got a hand the lightning round is kind of chunky today but that's okay because we only have um 46 more lightning rounds is that what thunder clap taught us that's messed up that's so fucked up but like what if what if like george yeah it could happen it could happen there's like a whole like other a whole year there's a

whole year for things to change there's a lot coming i'm ready for whatever comes when it comes but for now with Tyrion. That's where we're going to be. I'm excited about it. And we're going to actually be with a couple other characters this month when we come out with our Mockingjay, Part 1B. Thanks. You know, you like that segue. Ashes, the Ashes. We're going to be finishing up Act 1 of MockingJ, third book in the Hunger Games trilogy by Suzanne Collins. If you're not reading it, if you haven't read it, this is a great opportunity, maybe on the nose, but great opportunity. It's always on the nose.

It's always relevant, honestly, in our world. It's a good read. It's a good fucking read. And patrons in the stranger tier and above have access to all of our Hunger Games episodes. We did release the first episode for public just for a teaser a while back. So if you want to go get teased, go listen to that. Get Hunger Games blue balled. I don't know.

I guess. Like that. But our coverage is really good. You should listen to it. Yeah, I don't know. Like, is it? I hope it is. I think it is.

I enjoy it. I think so. I judge podcasts that I'm in by how much I enjoy it. Is that silly? No, I don't think so. Like, the time with you. Like, how much I enjoyed the episode and recording it with Eliana is pretty much my judgment. Which is.

So if I didn't enjoy it. She never, like, truly is like, I hated this. It's just like, this was difficult. What did we say and do in this? You know, like, there are days like we're more tired and we're like, I don't feel inspired by this chapter. And I think you can just hear that in the John chapters. If you go listen to our John Adwada coverage,

I don't know. I really came around on it. I think so, but I think you will hear me be very tired. It was actually like lugging you. through the Great North, truly. It was like I was mirror-breed and you were Brand Stark. Yeah. So that's somewhere that that happened.

I loved you. I loved you. I don't think I felt like that since then. Partially because I think that was in the throes of COVID, right? Yeah. It was COVID. It was season eight had finished. So we were, it was a lot.

It was a lot. We also burnt ourselves out because we did John and season eight. And I think that was the biggest learning. And that's why we take the breaks we take. So enjoy your vacation from TV Girls Gun Cannon because right now we are sticking with Tyrion until Hot D. Oh, wait. It wasn't COVID yet.

COVID started when we started Jamie. Oh, well, yeah, that's right. I forgot. That's a parallel. Jane across COVID. And that's why you should hate him as a character. Oh, my God. What is going to happen?

Yeah. What new pandemic? What new? Never mind. I was going to say, what new calamity will befall us as we start to. And I was like, wait, no, we do know. What, nuclear calamity? Yeah, I was like, actually, it's literally, we all know already.

Never mind. There is, in fact, a calamity. Okay. Dude shit's bad, too, so just bad. Every day I'm like, I guess we live, question mark. I don't know. It's terrible. It's just terrible.

We're going to probably, you know, hopefully we can have a great brunch happy hour, brappy hour with our Discord friends. This Sunday is brappy hour. It's going to be nice. I'm excited to see them because it is a light spot in a dark world. It is. It sucks, but they don't. Yeah.

And that'll be, yeah, I guess that is on Sunday. I don't know. Sometimes it's on Saturdays. And I never know until like the week of, even though I say it ahead of time because I explicitly with Chloe plan what is going to be the most advantageous day. that month. So.

Yeah, Little Miss fucking activities over here. She's like, I can't. I'm doing a journal writing crawl in a park alleyway on that day or some crap.

And it's always like the coolest most hipster shit where I'm like, what the fuck are you doing? That's not always true. I'm playing Coral Island. Yeah. It's often true. Sometimes I'm like,

I'm tired or like my friend is visiting and I have to go learn about, I don't know, decarbonization. I've been trying to convince a lot of people to show up to this event. And I don't know. One person straight up told me that she's like, I'm not going. And I was like, damn, she was the only one who's actually the relevant audience for this event.

And she's like, I'm not going. And I was like, yeah, that makes sense. I just met you. And it's far. So anyway. Eliminating human cause carbon dioxide is not outside of the range of things I was saying. you do to be fair. I don't do that. I just support another person who does that. Because that's true. That's what love is. Chloe just supported me greatly too in my professional

endeavors prior to this episode. She's not just talking about dragging her through John chapters. No. Dragging me through life, honestly. Um, cool. Yeah. So that's on Sunday. It's on our Discord. We have other things on our Discord 2. You can check it out in the Thunder Tier and above. Yo, people are yapping lately. I love it. Come yap. Let's do it.

Yeah, I've missed some of these. Yeah. Oh, these are great. We got some comments on Spotify. I wanted to give the Spotifyers. You know, they've been very well behaved lately. They've been doing a lot of the commenting. I thought we should reward them.

It's their turn to shine. Thank you. Thank you. First is Chris. Hey, Chris. Chris said video podcast with TikToks, please. Oh, my God. I don't know. I mean, the kids want it. No, I don't know. We don't need a TikTok, but we will someday upload TikTok style memes to Patreon. Oh, okay. I thought you were just about to say we are starting a TikTok and I'm like, I just think I'm like too old. No. Like, I think there's a threshold. Absolutely, too young. We're too young for TikTok.

You either have to be like some area of young or like so old that you're and really old with like a cool stick of like I'm playing the banjo or I have a squirrel that I rescued and it's my best friend now. These are hyper specific because these are the older people that I follow on TikTok and I'm like that's amazing. Yeah. I like that like old grandma that smokes pot. I don't know if I know that one. I forgot her name, but she's cool. There's probably a couple of them, honestly. Yeah, I was supposed to be like, I get it, I agree.

I feel like there's a lot. I feel like that, I was going to see that would be us, but it won't be. Because, again, we don't do drugs. So. Or have children. Oh, that's true. I don't know, the people want it. There's, I will say, there's some good blooper real material in the two videos I do have of Eliana testing. the TikTok microphones and pretending to interview random passerbyes about Tyrion.

That's my new favorite meme. Eliana interviewing people about Tyrion, Lanister. It didn't actually happen, but it did almost happen a few times. Mostly I interviewed like Chloe, I guess, which doesn't make any sense because that's what I do every week. And it literally, yeah, you do. It literally also, for all of you at home visualizing, visualize this, it just kind of devolved into us like pretending to hold a microphone back and forth pointing it at each other,

not even really pointing it at the right timing of saying things either, like just really passing it to and from saying, what do you think about Tyrion Lannister or what do you think about random detail in a song of ice and fire? Or do you think Tyrion Lannister is a Dungeons and Dragons fan? Or like, all of these were Tyrion related at that time just because, yeah. But also like, we could have, we could have asked the person at the rest of, He wanted to talk to us about Game of Thrones, I think, just a little. Yeah, he loved our good friend Alex's shirt. Yeah.

He loved it. Okay, thank you, Chris. Dan gave us a comment, hey Dan, what's up? And said, when you play America's next top model, you either winner you die, Circe to Stanis probably. Yo, we're on, no, but actually. But also, we are on, I've brought my roommate up to season four. So we're on season four.

Cycle four, sorry, cycle four. Honestly, I think Circe would have been really good as the host of America's next top model. Honestly, can I just say something? Like, maybe more sane than the actual host of America's next top model. Thank you, Dan. Okay, this one was fun from Derek. Yeah, Derek says, I've gotten used to it, but it did feel strange to listen to eight years' worth of podcasts in two weeks.

Yeah, that's what I feel right now. There should be a study. Like, my job. Yeah. Yeah. I'm just macro-dosing your job right now. Snorting a line of job. I would love to do, like, a study on that.

Like, what's that even like? How did you feel about eight years of podcast in two weeks? Is it? Where's the character analysis? Where's the arc? I was going to say, is it even literally possible? And maybe if you, like, speed everything up. But what kind of speed are you listening to us at?

Like, I listen to us at a ridiculous speed that most people cannot understand. And I've worked my way up to that threshold, to that tolerance. Every now and then I push, I'm like, we could go faster. Oh, my God. It's not enough for me anymore. Cheers, Derek. Cheers. Finally, our friend on Discord C-Star has been, you know,

she leaves a lot of great little recaps of her thoughts as she listens to episodes or rereads the chapters. I know C-Star has been doing a reread. And C-Star said, like some other readers, I wonder how Nights Watchmen pay the Moles Town sex workers. And I'm like, oh yeah, that is a very interesting question because how do they get paid? Do they get like a small, do the Knights Watch even get a small allowance or something?

And then also protection, rations, I think of, and I know it's a different circumstance, but John in a dance with dragons, right? Going and making sure the rations are handed out properly for winter, it does seem that they support Moldstown because of them having the gift, right? So interesting. Yeah, I never really thought about it. It could be a bit of bartering, like, as you said, provisions. I do kind of wonder, do they get some money, but like, in a bit of, like, as you said, allowance.

I don't know, but also, is there like an iron price aspect for it as well? Like when they go out and like they fight wildlings or whatever and then the raids, what they get there, they might also be able to use and trade. Yeah, barter system. Yep, exactly. I think maybe barter. That's true. Yeah, there has to be some sort of wealth.

And I wonder to like for me, this, I don't really give a shit about our current Knights Watch folks doing it, but now I'm very interested in how it started, right? And I'm like, oh, there's some lore there of how this all would have started. Or, yeah. In the Nights Watch. Not even just bar- they sell the things. They can sell the things that they acquired on the other side of the wall or from, like, other places, things that wash up. And then use that money instead of, like, directly bartering.

Yeah. I'm interested in all. Yeah. I'm interested in all. So I look forward to George telling me. George told me about, yeah, tell us about the exchange rate. Tell us about the-y-martin. Will you tell us all about.

Tell us all about the ROI of being a Moles Town sex worker. This is not unrelated to Chloe in my discussion earlier prior to recording. Girl bosses. Girl boss gone canon. Tell us about... Oh my God. T-shirt idea. M-R-R.

Of Moles Town problems. The V of the G, the voice of the generation of... Anyways, the V of the G. Thanks for all your comments. Okay. Keep commenting. If you're still in line, stay in line. Keep commenting.

Yes. Or emailing. Let's hit our 46th to last lightning round. Can I call it that legally? I don't even know if that's the number. I don't know how to count anymore. It's going to make this next part really hard if I don't know how to count. I'll start it off with ARIA too.

To make up for life being unfair. Eddard gets Aria a dancing tutor. Maybe he should get me a dancing tutor. Daneris 3. Dancing queen. Aw. Oh. She will be a dancing queen if you think about it during the second dance.

Oh. Something to think about. Really makes you think. De Neri's three. Dineri stands up to Viseres, rides her husband, and gets pregnant. Really fruitful chapter. Brand four. Tyrion provides brand with plans.

for a saddle so he can ride a horse again. There's a lot of horse stuff going on, this round of stuff. There is. A lot of horse play. Yeah. Editor 4. Ned continues investigating John Aaron's final days. Again, conjured

the image of the recent very popular cartoon. Explain. Why did they not look like their father? My God. but actually John 4 John meets his new best friend

Samwell Tarley Uwu Ooooooo I remember when I met you I know I was thinking the same thing I was like I remember I too have met a best friend before Uwu Uw

Uw Edward 6 Ahead of the tourney Ned and the team must do some work Ned meets Gendry who looks a lot like Robert suspicious. I like that you left off the king that I wrote there.

He's no king of yours. I kind of just kind of missed it. Not my king. I'm falling apart. Not my king. Just like Robert. Roberts also falling apart. Not my king.

Catalin 5. In the inn at the crossroads, Catalan takes a chance and captures who she thinks is her son's op. She thinks. He's like, Tyrion, why are you a brand anti? holds mic up to Tyrion Stop it No

Stop it Do Sonsa too Sonda 2 With stars in her eyes Sansa attends the Super Bowl It learns more about Sandor Kligayn Oh Sand Dog

Editor 7 Sir Hugh Of the Vale dies Rather suspiciously Ahead of Attorney Ned and Barriston Try to keep Robert From competing in the melee

Which is good considering Varus says Robert was meant to die. So much suspicious stuff going on. Yes. What is going on? So... We're building a mystery. Suspicious.

Don't act suspicious. Don't act suspicious. I think, okay, if we did do a TikTok, you and I could do a TikTok of that. Yeah, that's true. That's true. I think we'd be good at it. Okay, so that brings us here to Tyrion four. in a Game of Thrones. After the Inn at the Crossroads,

all, you know, iconic chapter, we just kind of glazed over it a little in this lightning round, but incredible stuff. Tyrion is captured by Lady Stark, and the retinue of redshirts. He thinks that he heads towards

Winterfell, but then in a twist, he heads towards the veil. Dog. Locust. That was... That's straight up. She dog locusted him, dog. That was an era. That was an era, truly.

I will never get to be that girl again in my life. Like, I think about that. Like, I was a young girl who knew little of the ways of war back then. I agree. I try to recapture that feeling. And, like, sometimes I can. But, no, it's like, it's a different feeling, though, when you look back on it. Yeah.

And I'm like, wow, look at how far we come. But, like, in a, I'm, I look back on it fondly, and I'm like, wow. Yeah. We've really grown. We come on a journey. And we really act our age, which is 24. Absolutely. We launch into this chapter with Tyrion watching chicken butcher his horse,

thinking he owes one more debt to the Starks. Ooh, a vengeance calling. And Braun comments, none of them will go hungry tonight. I was just like, oh, cute, debt. Ha. All right, George. Not fond of eating horse, Tyrion says that his brother gave him that horse, Horse 23rd named day, and Braun says that the Doth Rocky like horse more than beef or pork,

and that meat is meat. Yeah, meat is meat. Brand, watch out for cold hands and meat is meat attitude. The first, I had two reactions to this. The first reaction that I had when rereading this was Eliana is about to have a field day here. First of all, this first entire passage of this chapter is just Eliana Fodder. It's like she's going to talk about the long night. She's going to talk about cannibalism.

She's going to talk about this. Like, that's the first thing I thought. So, jot that down. There's stuff in here that I was like, oh, brother. This is so Eliana coded. How did George know? Oh, brother. The other thing I was going to call out is how much we are going to,

have that recurring drumbeat of Jamie Lannister throughout the entire chapter, underlining everything Tyrion does. If it's not his father driving his neuroses, it's his love for his brother. And here, something that he thought was sweet and pure. The horse that he's had for five years, he got it for his 23rd name day from his beloved brother, the only family member that's ever treated him kindly, he thinks, and they have to kill it. And so that tying into the long night, of course, not just to hashtag Eliana, but, you know, I think of all the things people will sacrifice in war, whether here or whether in Winterfell.

I think of the horses we hear about that when they break their legs, you put them out anyways, or whether it's too late. And then I think of like the whites attacking and like, when is it too late? Look at the prologue. It was too late. they turned away and they ran because they knew it was too late for their friend. About to be too late for us. Oh.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's a... Dismal. Sorry, but... It is dismal. I mean, like, you were talking about the comparisons with Brand and it is even like,

you know, brand being like, I'm sad that we killed that elk. That was our friend. Killing your melt and eating them and maybe a little bit of the consumption of Hodor, metaphorically, as we've discussed before. Honestly, like, when I read this chapter back then and even now, it does make me really sad. Like, I'm a sentimental person if someone gives me something, like, as a gift. And I feel like it was, you know, truly like a heartfelt gift, which I assume a horse was because it costs a lot of money, which as I called out during the Night of the Seven Kingdoms, part of me is like, I don't know, was Raven Fosway? Like, why the fuck did I spend all this money on buying you this horse if you weren't going to take it?

Anyway, even though I really think he should have gone back for Sweetfoot in general, and I'm glad that Sweetfoot got like a good life. I am kind of like, oh, so you just like didn't accept this like extravagant gift. Someone gave you a horse. Right. Anyways, the point is I'm very sentimental about gifts like that. So I would have been, I would have been really sad if I were here. And I'd be like, oh my God, this person that I love gave me this horse that I've traveled with and I loved this horse. And I would have been sad.

So this makes me sad. Well, he was, dude. He was sad. That is sad. Again, it was like a reminder of Jamie's love for him. It's like the only thing he literally has. We'll talk about it in a bit too, but I do think the Tyrion that we meet in a Game of Thrones is a little bit less independent than we believe. Which is interesting.

I don't think he's quite as. Yeah, he's very much. I mean, it's succession. They only hang out with each other because you can only exist under your father's fucking gays in a lot of ways. That's true. that he permits you to live. Like, yeah. Bo do do do do do.

Do do. Boer on the floor. Every fucking day in that household, dude. Every day is more on the floor for them. Yeah. I mean, like, you know, it would be kind of like Denary's having to eat the silver.

That would make a lot of people sad. That would make her big sad. Yeah. So it's like that. Yeah. And then also I feel like they're... Do you think that'll happen? wait, that could happen. I didn't think about it until I was about to say it. I was like,

I guess that could happen. I think it could happen. So fucked up. I do think it could happen. Now that you said it, I'm like, I do think that her horse will die and she'll probably eat it. I mean, she has a, you know, she has a record with horse hearts. Well, not just that, like, you know, people talk about who all the big characters are. And, like, there are obviously, like, Bran and Daneris, two very big magical figures. And Brand had to do it. so maybe DeNari's will I mean, Tyrion just did it So people usually do like the three as

Tyrion John Danny especially And well no or brand John I don't know there's like five big ones that were laid out In the 93 letter letter card Yeah whatever It's hard isn't it The point is it could be It could be

So there are other interesting ties though To De Neri's this storyline That they're talking about how the Doth Rocky Eat Horse NBC like in some of the chapters like oh yeah no that's true like it's kind of like the stories that old nan would tell brand some of the things about the free folk were true or the things like on the other side of the wall and some of them were very much not because like there's this rumor about the doth rocky apparently leaving deformed children behind for like the dogs to eat and i just don't know if that's true but it was an interesting call out of like what that means when you think about how they made

the series run behind them. Yeah, like you start to wonder or not run on the cart, you know, walk. Yeah, like those came from somewhere, obviously. Yeah. Concepts so culturally for them. So it's interesting because also it's like that here, clearly. Wow, everywhere.

Everywhere in the world, they kill little girls. Honestly, yeah. True. Yeah, true. Yeah, true. Big true over in. Ambissaries. And it's actually interesting to,

because there's this line, this back and forth, and it's clearly, you know, kind of funny. This is meant to be because, oh, yeah, Emmett and I were just discussing this. My roommate from Not a cast. He was like, oh, shit, yeah, you guys really haven't had to deal with Braun much. And I'm like, yeah, you're absolutely right. We've only seen Braun like three times or some shit in the fucking Circey shit he comes up in Cat. And I think that's like it. We're just like Lena Heady in the last few seasons, the Game of Thrones.

Keep him away from me. We separated them for a reason, actually. Yeah. We kept Circe literally away from him because we respect Circe more than Ron. Yeah, so go, Bron, give us nothing. But he's fine. Yeah. He's just like there.

He's all right. He's okay. I think he's a good, you know, he's a good semi-wingman for Tyrion in some ways, but also maybe not. In some ways, he brings something very, you know, like, grizzly bear, masculine, like something out of him that wasn't there before in a lot of ways I think we'll talk about. Like something. Wow, maybe he's his stewie, like Kendall Stewie. Okay, okay.

So I digress. I think there's a part of me that is like, Braun's fine, but like is it also I feel contrarian about him because the show loved him so much and played him up so much. And I'm like, he's not that cool. Yeah, I think he's more. But it's interesting because he has leveraged here as all.

also as like a humorous or lighter character in a lot of ways. He has black humor. He's kind of like a rogueish character who's willing to like betray his own morals for like, like I will say like, God, not to, I'm not handing it to them. You do not have to hand it to them. I'm not saying I like them. But that is, I mean, that that's his character. Like they just gave him some witty lines and he had some dark humor and some dark jokes.

And he was Tyrion's guy. and he does have a little bit more in book, but I totally understand how a character like that can get lost into the adaptation is just that because even here, right, we have this back and forth of him and chicken and chickens like, ah, it tastes well bred,

which commentary on class, like you were saying, also here, Braun says it's better fried up with onions. I bet he's right. So there's a little, probably, I mean, Braun appreciates flavor, I guess. You can say that much

about the guy. I just think he's probably a little more, like, he's not quite as much of a character in this after a while, you know? Like, you hear about him in the background and I get it, you gotta make him something on a screen, give him something to do. They just gave him everything.

They gave him fucking high garden. No, no, no. You didn't have to give him high garden. They gave him everything. Yeah, that part was fucked up now that you mentioned, but I kind of respect it now, but... He's okay, and I think I'm being, I'm being, I'm being, I'm being reactionary.

I'm being reactionary about Braun. Of course, of course, he's fine. They just played him up too much. Anyways. Well, we're going to find out, I think that's a good goal for us. We're going to find out how we feel about Braun. Yeah, yeah. We have this, this moment of, damn her, Tyrion thinks, struggling to catch up to his captors.

Damn her and all the Star-X, because as we have mentioned, Katlin has done some casually, you know, Tyrion napping lately, and Homsomongstus has not, I guess. And I think... So, yeah, I think it's interesting that they're, like, running low on food because they're trying to stay hidden right now. And it's what should arguably be, like, a pretty short trip compared to... I've seen a lot of trips throughout the Song of Ice and Fire. So it kind of plays up how tight resources are going to be, during the long night.

Whoa. Bingo card. Bingo card. Wow. That's so crazy. Why don't we have a bingo card? Why don't we do GGC bingo? Yeah.

Submit your bingo cards. Bingo. Chloe says woof. Make your bingo cards for next week's episode, everyone. And if you get a bingo, I don't know. We'll figure it out. We can bring a template.

We can bring a template and like, I don't know, start hashing them out or something. This is kind of fun. The activity during brunch. Oh my God, I'm sold. Well, Tyrion kind of recaps what happened in the last chapter so we can come revisit this chapter. One moment, he was ordering supper and the next moment, everyone is blaming him for attacking Bran.

Life comes at you fast. And of course, the scars on cattle. Catalan's hands tell the story better than him. Everyone's like, that's proof. And so now everyone wants to, like, kill the shit out of him. And you know what? The woke mob that Catalan Stark has unleashed on Tyrion Lannister. Cancel culture is out of control these days.

Whatever happened to Innocent until proven guilty. It's wild that the woke intolerant left has done this. Yeah. It's... I'm just kidding. Obviously, this is a joke. The scars remind us. The past is real.

Tear my heart open, just to feel. Tear my stone heart open. Just to feel. That's a bingo for those of you at home tracking Eliana and Chloe bust out into song within moments they are on the same wavelength. Yeah. Wow, that's a TikTok for those of you at home clipping the episode. No, no, that should be the free space. Like, I don't think you should be allowed to put that on a row.

That's the free space. Happens too often. Yeah, that was really good, though. That was crazy that within moments, we were on the same page. I wasn't sure. I was surprised. I was like, this is such a bad song. You tested the water for a moment.

No, I know everything. I know every song. Dude, I know all of them. I know every single song. It's terrible. Yo, they're playing the sound of music around here. Yeah, I saw it last weekend around here. Oh, it's a good tour.

It's touring. Yeah, we went for my birth. Got it. Yeah. I should see my friend once to see it. Yeah. All right. No, you should because it was very good and I had a lot of thoughts.

So let me know. Well, she and I were just talking about it. Go see the sound of music if it comes to you. Yeah. She and I were just talking about it because she was like, I don't know, it's kind of sad because he was like dating that woman. But I guess like she wasn't and then he like falls in love with the Opaire. And like, I don't know. Anyways.

Not to spoil the sound of music. Yeah, but the woman was a Nazi sympathizing. Was she? I don't even remember that. I don't know if the movie necessarily paints it as harshly, but I will tell you no spoilers that if you see the stage show, it is very clear what the threat and conflict of the entire movie is and it's Nazis. And it's really well done. So definitely go see it because we are very anti-Nazi in this household. Some people seem confused about that when they reach out to us. So just know that.

Yeah, very, very much. Yeah. I can't believe it. The non-woke right is reaching out. God. They're trying to get everyone, but not us. So we maneuvered our way out, just like Tyrion maneuvered his way out, saying that he would go with Lady Stark, her judgment.

A dozen swords had responded to Lady Stark's call. I like how you called her Lady Stark in a lot of these notes. The Brackens, some cell swords It's his voice Yeah, you were influenced by Tyrion Because I'm like, I'm on a first name basis That's cat, that's Catlin Little Cat

So the Brackens, some cell swords, Heron Hall men And so Tyrion has no choice really But to go with them Even Yorin wouldn't choose aside Catlin had been clever More clever Than Tyrion could even imagine

She made all her father's men affirmed the O's that they swore to him and only like a dozen had really risen to her risen for her and like Tyrion's feeling a little he's feeling a little smug about that because the rest of the room which is like at least eight 50 people hadn't many of them phrased and he's like hmm clocked that

and only two of them had stirred until they saw their captain didn't move and they're like well I'm going to sit back down and so Winterfell it is except maybe not right Sir Roderick had asked that the men keep very quiet about what they saw And Tyrion's like, oh no, the story's going to be spread in an instant. The phrase would tell their lord.

And Lord Walder, who may be sworn to River Run, would continue to make sure he was on the winning side. Which is like, that's so real because I've played K3 Agat, uh, total conversion mod. And that is how it is like, you got to just like, you know, if your direct superior is in the wrong, looking at you, Martel's, shout out how Stain playing K3A got all the time. But like, oh, now I really want to play. fuck but you know if you're if they're wrong sometimes you got to go with the other guy you know so that you can be right yeah and then decimate them because you've bred your house with the targaryens and you have dragons and you have like four dragons in starfall and you also have a dragon pit there

for some reason and you can take down the martels that there's a lot to process here i i guess yes yes okay so actually though talking about the books You should really play CK3 Ega. I hope I just sold it for you. It's always fun. Really made me want to play it too. I'm itchy now.

I'm like, ooh. I'm closing. I just talked myself. This is. Into playing CK3. Yeah, into playing later. This is an amazing intro for the phrase. Like,

because this is where we're introduced to the concept of a fray in order to paint the red wedding. So bloody later, you actually need to really start showing their nature immediately, right? Like, George is kind of shouting it here. You don't really think about it at the time because it's your first intro to them. But in Cat 5, we get told that Catalan doesn't know the phrase of the inn.

They don't know her. So she's kind of using impulse in her guts in hopes that she doesn't falsely call on their help. And they're like, fuck you. Like, she knows that, you know, Lord Walder's a little fickle. And her father's never been really maybe cool. Like, every day, Waldre Frey is like, Haster, could I come over, man? we can watch football and drink some beer.

And he's like, no, you cannot. And eventually, after doing that for like 50 years, Walder's got some bones to pick, you know? Like, he's like, I thought we were really friends. And they're not because no one likes him. So we also get frayed, though, in Sonsa, too. So we're getting a lot of phrase suddenly. Like, they're very much getting, I'm afraid

that they're being introduced to us at a very rapid rate suddenly so we can keep that going. Sonsa meets some important phrase, six phrase of the crossing, Sir Jared, Sir Hostine, Sir Danwell, Sir Emin, Sir Theo, Sir Perwin, sons and grandsons of Walder, and his bastard son, Martin Rivers, as well.

So, like, you meet the whole lineup. Like, this is the real playing lineup right here, right? Like, this is who you're playing all season long. These guys, we meet them later. They join the Stark. So it's setting up really well for. the Red Wedding. Yeah, right? Also considering, like, these are the major players that are going to take part in that the Lannisters and them combined. So, of course, these plots are kind of

coming together in exactly what you just brought up, right? And what we were talking about with the Danes and the Martels and CK3A got a very non-Pannon game. I was like, what did I bring up? Both. I mean, well, you helped launch the, the thought. Oh, okay. I was like, I did not break the K-3 mod the dates and mortals but yeah no the scenario of them going past their leash

I see like they have in the past of course of course I'm just over here thinking George R. Martin Rivers and that's fun it's very fun Catlin

yeah interesting to see them show up I'm like I gotta watch these phrase some more they're doing a lot They're out here. Well, it makes sense that we're introducing them here, right? Because you need them, like, set up pretty well, considering that once upon a time, the red wedding was probably going to occur in the second book

when this is a trilogy. Right. And they were on their way, probably from the ones that were at the inn, were probably on their way to the tourney and hadn't gotten there. Or they were staying at the inn outside of the tourney or something, like no room for them at the pavilion.

I don't know, but there's a lot of phrase. So I'm wondering if they were making their way there, because this is the literal middle ground before you descend into fucking Kingslanding hell. Making their way downtown. This past. They're not Winterfellbound. They're veilbound. Or not. Not these days.

Or not. Catalin, of course, loudly announced they were going to Winterfell. And Tyrion feels content with that until someone pulls a hood. over his head and they travel through the rain at a hard gallop and then a slow trot and his thighs are aching and it's miserable and terrible and it's raining it does not sound good. This is so both Kendall and Roman of him, if you think about it. Oh my God. In terms of the falling in the lake, yeah.

But also being caged. But Tierra's not enjoying it. Like, honestly, my take right now is. that Tyrion is basically being tortured here because pouring or like putting someone underneath like a wet cloth is actually one way to create

the conditions of waterboarding. Yeah. Wow. That's it. Catalan Stark is breaking the Geneva convention. I feel like a lot of people feel that way. Every single day.

The intolerant right. They feel that way. about Kirtland. The woke mob that is coming after Tyrion today is astounding. Oh my God. Catalan and Tyrion have this little back and forth,

and so first, I was about to settle down to a warm fire and a roast fowl, and that wretched singer had to open his mouth, he thought mournfully. The wretched singer had come along with them. There was a great song to be made from this, and I'm the one to make it.

He told Catalan Stark when he announced his intention of riding with them to see how the splendid adventure turned out. Tyrion wondered whether the boy would think the adventure quite so splendid once the Lannister riders caught up with them. Oh, Tyrion. Oh, Marillion. He sucks. He really does.

Yeah, he sucks bad. He should have died in this chapter, bro. Piece of shit. He should have died without them. Instead of I should have died with him. Anyways. So I think something that I was thinking about was like

Merlian spends a lot of time here with Catlin Stark and it really tells you something about disguises that he does not recognize Sonsa as looking like Catlin I guess because of the different hair color I mean hair color really does make a big difference that's what I've learned much to my embarrassment

talking to people every now and that like do I have face blinders? Oh Eliana Am I stupid? You do have the troubles, don't you? All the time. She's stupid. She's facing the troubles, folks.

Facing the troubles. As soon as you had written that in the notes, I knew that was where you were going to go with it, by the way, in my heart of hearts. I was like, oh, no, here she comes. I mean, like, on one hand, I am like, is he stupid? Because he really might be. Like, honestly, like dark brown hair and Auburn, like, aren't that big of a difference that he shouldn't have been able to tell, especially like at nighttime.

But I'm also like, you know, when you don't think about it, you're not really thinking about it. You know, you wouldn't be like, hmm. Yeah. She looks a lot like this hot milf that I met. But also he's living at a house with Liza, too, who he's looking at every day. So is he stupid? No, you're right. Is he stupid?

Because, wait, I think he's just a stupid, stupid boy. He is stupid. Okay. George really doesn't think much of these singers, does he? He doesn't. He is stupid. For someone who says that he likes songs. George, what do you think about songs?

That's the new video. Not much about their singers. George, what are your thoughts on songs? Interior and Leinster. Oh my. The rain stops and dawn light seeps through when Catalan commands, time to dismount. It turns out, we get the rain.

reveal that Catalan has been taking the high road. I think we talked about this during the Catalan chapters, but I do love it. Like, it's very, like, it's giving Lady Karen Stark of her. Like, she took the high road. It's just funny to me. It's very funny to me. I don't know. It is funny.

It made me cackle. I just like it. Kathleen took the high road. The Eastern Road, not the road to Winterfell. And we have a back and forth of Catalan now. Catalan favored him with the faintest of smiles. often and loudly. She agreed.

No doubt your friends will ride that way when they come after us. I wish them good speed. Even now, long days later, the memory filled him with a bitter rage. All his life, Tyrion had prided himself on his cunning. The only gift the gods had seen fit to give him, and yet the seven times damned she-wolf Catlin Stark had outwitted him at every turn, the knowledge was more galling than the bare fact of his abduction. I had to include this quote for many reasons.

It's important to me because every time I think about how people like, Katlin starts so dumb. And I'm like, you're dumb. You're stupid. Because she's objectively not. Like everyone's like, I think Tyrion's so smart, which he is. And I'm like, yeah. Tyrion acknowledges that Catlin is smart.

And so Catlin... Yeah, well, the trick to this, Eliana, is that Tyrion acknowledges it, Catalan acknowledges it, but the people reading the story might be, are they stupid? If you think that Catlin's not smart, you are, and I will say it.

Oh, my God, get on. I'm like that meme of that guy's standing. I'm brave enough to say it. Oh my God. You know, something that really is poking out through all of this to me is we open to Tyrion and maybe again, there's some showism shit here that you have a vision of Tyrion in your head and who he is and Mr. Cool, but he's kind of sheltered. Like, he had all these big dreams of traveling, especially because of his uncle Jarian.

But his father instead was like, no, you want adventure. Your adventure is going to be being the fucking C-O-O of the family firm for sewers. Like, you're going to go work the sewers and get shareholder new profit value from these sewers is basically what his dad said. He's like, that's all the adventure you're going to fucking have. Good luck. And then pretty much he was allowed to tag along with the royal party places. and it seems he could go places, obviously. But he has duties, so he usually, like, is attached to where his family travels

and does the family business. And then you look at, again, his other attempt at having independence and freedom, which was Taisha, right? And then Taiwan took Taisha away, too. As I was saying earlier, there is a relationship where Tyrion has never been allowed to grow. He's never been allowed to go out and see the world. world and do these things, Tywin has always stopped him from that. I won't go into it, but I think a lot of like the infantilizing of disabled people in general applies here for Tyrion on top of it too.

Like there are some elements of that, but moreover, there are elements of Taiwan's control that Taiwan doesn't want Tyrion to have freedom. Taiwan doesn't want Tyrion to have independence. And maybe that's what Tyrion may be in his heart. He thought of these things when he was standing on the wall, looking out on forever, right? Like, I'm sure some of that must be in the element of things he was thinking about before he saw John Snow. How different are these lives? One is just colder and less fancy. Oh, my God.

But that said, this is actually his first real independent adventure of his family, and we're kind of witnessing it. Like, he's young. He's 28. The fucking horse his brother got him is the horse he was riding. Like in some ways, yes, it would make me sad. I actually am sad about the horse as well, so I understand why he's sad. But also in, if we look at the masculinity of the culture and ba-da-da-da-da-da. You're not, what we learn, you don't name them.

If you name them, then, you know, it's going to be sad when they go. And also, like, Tyrion is a boy holding on to sweet things and winter is kind. and blah, blah, blah, blah. I'm not saying it's right, but it's just interesting that that's what he's been raised on. That has been the teat that Taiwan has had him suckling at his whole life. You know? Yeah.

And he has dared, like Brian, like our characters like Bran and John, to have those kind of hopes and dreams and like Sansa and like kind of like the idea of these true knights. And he actually has a little bit of that heart that gets betrayed in all of these events. So he's, I don't know. He's just kind of like,

this is his first real independent, independent adventure until he gets back to the family business. No, I really loved when you called out earlier that, and then like how you've expanded on, like, Tyrion is really sheltered. And I think the, the exchanges that he has with Penny really show the difference between that. But you're right. Like, it might not necessarily be just because, you know, he has dwarfism. We see the way that, like, Circe has been treated. And arguably even, like, He would have probably kept Jamie close had Jamie not, quote unquote, escaped by becoming a Kingsguard, right? Left container. Yeah, he had plans for his whole family.

He had like hopes and dreams for them and like, you know, kept them under, like, kept them in a tight leash. And I think there's an aspect of it also, like, Tyrion's life was very controlled in that he was, Taiwan didn't want him out there that much because he was ashamed of him. but also like, it sucks that you were the COO of like the sewers, but honestly, Tyrion, there's a lot of money in sanitation. There's a lot of money. Like, some, not all, but depending on like where you are, the garbage people make a lot of money.

Yeah, not here, but. Some places, not all places, but like there's money in sanitation in like the sewers. Yeah, you just might have to relocate, you know, be open to relocation. Yeah, so I'm just saying. Give up your entire life You know The economy's fine, dude I mean

Turing No, he's got another job coming He's moving up the ladder You know, don't worry He's gonna fail upwards Good for him Yeah definitely he definitely has like a He definitely has a lot of jobs

That he does over the next five books For sure And I am Tywin's about to look him in the eyes And say it's you son It's always been you Just kidding It's always been you

That I want to kill Oh my God As we called out last episode, I'm like, huh, honestly, that was pretty rough for him. Like, Taiwan Lanister just sent you to the wall. Taiwan Lanister told him, you should die. Anyways, I am kind of impressed at, like, Tyrion's geography knowledge. Because, like, he opens his eyes, the bags taken off, and he's like, this is the hierarchy. I'm like, I wouldn't know that.

Yeah, that is interesting. I guess he knows it's not Winterfell. It's a deduction. He's like, oh, this is landscape. Yeah, he's like, wow. I don't remember going to this Windows screensaver. Yeah. I saw that shit in the Bay Area a couple weeks ago.

I saw the Windows ass screensaver place. Oh, in real life. I didn't know it was there. I knew it was real. I knew it was real somewhere. I think it is. Yeah. Let's see, bliss taken in the Los Caneros American viticultural area of California's wine country.

I can hear the noise like that, you know? Yeah, it was cool, though. I was like, whoa, that's so crazy. Like, it was with my employee. And I was like, that reminds me of the Windows XP screen saver. He's like, yeah, it is. Incredible. Sick.

I was like, oh shit. Sick. So they feed and they water the horses and off they trot again. There's nowhere for Tyrion to really bail to now because he's like climbing up the mountain. And if he ran, he wouldn't go far, at least especially not without provisions. But, you know, we're warned of the many things that could come in this chapter. Shadow cats, the mountain clans. Someone is going to find him and leave him worse for the where.

He knew where they were headed though the moment they took the hood off to Lady Liza, Catalan's sister and no friend the Lannisters. Tyrion doesn't know why, no, no, no, another mystery. As Tyrion approaches the party, Sir Willis wowed, Lady Wentz, man, tells Catalan they must rest. And Roderick agrees saying, this is the third horse we've lost. Oof, showing how treacherous that walk up to the veil really is. But she reminds them, if the lanisters are on them, they will lose more than horses. And Tyrion's like, small chance of that happening.

and curl a cat a fat oaf with short-cropped hair and a pig's face, Tyrion thinks, oh, Tyrion, who also happens to be a man at arms for Jonas Bracken says, The lady did not ask for your views, dwarf. Do you ever think of like the Jonas Brothers, Jonas Brack? Oh, there could be a costume idea in there. Oh, wait, yeah, that could be fun. I mean, there's a costume idea. Each of us a Jonas brother.

How many of us? Who's us? We need a third. There must be a third. The dragon must have three heads. Yeah. Dingo. So is it your roommate?

Actually, you and I haven't talked about. We could find our Sagittarius. We haven't discussed that in eight years. It could be you. I'm just kidding. It could be you. Think about it out there. Is it you?

Are you a Sagittarius? Are you? was Sagittarius. Turian had made a special effort to learn all their names so he might thank them later for their tender treatment of him. Alannister always paid his debts. Curlicat would learn that someday, as would his friends Lari's and Mooror, and the good sir Willis and the sell swords of brawn and chigan.

He planned an especially sharp lesson for Merillian. of the wood harp and the sweet tenor voice who was struggling so manly to rhyme imp with gimp and limp so he could make a song of this outrage. Yeah, dude, fuck that guy. No, for real. Fuck Marillion. He actually is. Bro, all my homies hate Marillion. I know that my friends would kill Marillion with fucking hammers is what I want you to know.

I feel like he would have been a little. support what Tyrion does. Would they kill a Marillion with hammers, or would they kill him by throwing him out a hole in the floor? Yo, whatever they do, they can't do it soon enough is what I'm trying to tell you. Like, they cannot do it soon enough. Something fun, and we got it at the very beginning of the chapter when Tyrion says that, you know, he owes some debts to House Stark.

Because House Stark is really fucking with his life right now, like, carmically speaking. He's like, fuck House Stark. But it introduces that great concept of a lannister paying their debts a little differently, right? We start to read that. I mean, quite honestly, Tyrion's a character that is sounding very consumed by his vengeance. He's reading out his own list of people he wants to take down and kill his own list, just like an aria, actually. It kind of is reminiscent to me of when Aria starts building her list in the next books. you know there's some similar concept too

in the fact that for him paying a debt is verb for you know breaking their knees or killing them basically it's mob speak to borrow from the lexicon of emitt not a cast it's mob speak though pay your debts I'm gonna pay your debts I'm gonna fucking break your legs I'm gonna make you sleep with the fucking fishes but also there's like a life for death exchange and even I think of the House of Black and White here

when I think of Aria and her list. So it's interesting to see him so consumed by this and it's already grading at him and you can see where he will maybe drown himself in that bitterness a little eventually and give into that. It's very much here. Yeah, I like how you're talking about how there's like an exchange here.

I'm like, what is the ROI on vengeance? None. I will say, like, he does sometimes do the whole debt thing as not vengeance. But those are much more, like, he doesn't say them inside of his heart. He says them aloud, and he's like, ow, you. And, yeah. Positively. Yeah.

I like how you likened him to Arya. That is really interesting. I'm curious for their paths to cross one day. They were supposed to cross very immensely in the 93 letter, in which Tyrion, I guess, falls in love. with Aria Stark and isn't a love triangle with John and Aria. Isn't that crazy? In case you guys didn't know for some reason, because we talk about this letter all the time.

You're going up to people and being like, do you think Aria Stark should have been with John or should have been with Tyrion? Dude, people would have reactions. They'd be like, what the fuck? Like, everyone knows because of the cultural, like, zeitgeist that is Game of Thrones. I think, like, they know those characters. and I think people would be like, what the fuck are you talking about? Why did you say that to me? Yeah, give them a coronary.

Give them a fucking coronary. So I will say regarding these names, first of all, I think that the name chicken is supposed to be like chicken. And then second of all, chicken little. I think so. I think that and then, like, I mean, Braun is very obvious. He's brawny, you know, brawn. And then we have these other characters, Crowley Cat, Lorries, and Moor. And I'm just saying, these are the three stooges.

Curly-Cit-Curly, Lari's Larry, Moho-Mo. That's it. They are. That's real. That's a real thing. That's real. Good call-out. Like the Muppets.

Like the Muppets. Yeah. George is silly. He's a little silly with it. I love that about him. I like an author that gets silly with it. Yeah. Marillion is also what?

It's supposed to be like a band, right? And I'm like, do you not like this band? Yeah. I don't know, dude, but he should break his fingers again. throw him out the window again he does not like singers we're gonna bring it up again but man George does not like think about blue watt

it's interesting like what is he dislike about singers because I know that George or Blue Bard what I meant he does like music he's always like I wrote this short story about this song and I'm like cool yeah but I think it's more like the archetype of the singer you know

like the singing douchebag it seems as that's what he no pun intended harps on honestly if I were a man and I learned to play guitar earlier in life as a man I think I would be that one yeah I'd just sweep

I just fucking sweep I'd be like dick in pussy wherever I went deep I would be deep in it no I totally got it on our podcast with quote unquote feminist takes saying I would be the most I'm a toxic man.

Just admitting it on the podcast. No, I'm not saying like forgive men, but since we're in our men's rights era with Tyrion specifically. Oh, my God. I'm just saying sometimes we got to lean in, you know, like I get it. Oh, lean in. I get it, man. Yeah, lean in.

Oh, my God. I get it, men. I'm just kidding. I don't. Anyways, so Lady Stark, who also doesn't get it, she commands they let Tyrion speak, which is what I've been saying. Let him speak.

Yeah, let him cook. And he tells her, my people are likely chasing up the king's road across the neck. And my father will have heard, but he doesn't really love me. I don't know if he's going to actually, like, bestir himself. And then he's like, it was only half a lie.

Lord Tywin Lannister cared not a fig for his deformed son, but he tolerated no slights on the honor of his house. I just realized that what... I love you, Tyrian. Braun said, kind of insinuated like Tyrion, the Dothraki would have left you behind for the dogs. Yeah. That was, like, kind of rude of him.

Yeah. You know, they're actually, no, they are all, you know, being serious. Yeah. Not saying that men deserve rights. No, he's having a really rough, like this entire truth. They're very much mistreating him based on... his abilities. Yeah, no, they're like, we are treating him this way and picking him up and just tying him up up and

carrying him around because we feel that we can. We feel entitled to his body. Yeah. Yeah. It's fucked up. It's fucked up. We're waterboarding him for fun. And it's also like, even internally, right?

Not only are they torturing him physically. Arguably, they are inspiring emotional torture because, like, it is really sad to see how often it gets repeated in Tyrion's like POV, how much his father does not care for him, right? Like we see and we hear a little bit about it in previous chapters. Like when he tells John, he's like, yeah, I don't know. My dad treats me like a bastard. But now that he's been captured,

we see how normalized a part of it. It is for his internal dialogue. Like, we're so used to it. But like, if you think about it, him being like, my dad wouldn't really do anything. He would not be sad that I was kidnapped. And I'm like, dang, that's, if you, like, actually think about it, that's kind of sad. And, like, also, especially that Tyrion's not sure that he can survive.

As you're talking about, whatever they're just doing to his body, like, he isn't sure that he can survive this pace. Like, they're pushing the horse is so hard. And I'm sorry, but I know a horse is fitter than me. So this must be very difficult for him. And when you think about how painful it was for Dineris, like, think about them. for man who has also been tied up and waterboarded. Yeah, the conditions are shitty as shit. Like, we know the veil is treacherous.

This is all, this is very hard. This is very hard. It's not right. I would not be into it either. This is not right. This is not men's right. Like, I still support everything Catalan has ever done. Oh, for sure.

However, maybe this, maybe some of this, I'm like, IDK, like, I'm glad she lets up a little. And there's something interesting there for her. We're going to talk about here, like, of her ruling, too, because, you know, he's allowed to talk now. So he's like, I had no part in Brand's assassination attempt. The would-be killer did have my dagger. It sounds like, you know, interesting. And she's like, well, why would Peter lie to me? Like, why did that guy have your dagger?

He's like, I don't know. I didn't give that shit there. And he responds, well, you know, Peter is a liar. what he does is lie all the time. It comes very easily, like, breathing. Yeah, exactly, exactly. And also, like, he kind of is like, you should know he's a liar. And she's like, what?

What? He says, because Littlefinger told every man at court that he took your maiden head. And she's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, that is a lie. We're like, duh. Duh, like, all of us are like, duh. But in that moment, like, for the moment, there's a moment. there's a big suck of air and it's very vivid

the point that Tyrion's making, right? Is that Littlefinger is a liar. He lied. He told this lie to everyone. He told everyone he fucked you. It's a rumor Littlefinger started, not a rumor Randos started. It's his rumor.

He's the one telling people that Peter's a liar because, you know, Peter is a liar and he said this. And Catalan is like, no, that's a lie. And because of that, everyone gets really, really big mad at Tyrion. Like really mad at Tyrion.

like really mad. Like it all blows up and they're like, how dare you, how dare you question the lady's honor and how dare you say these lies about her? And he's like, yeah, I know because like I'm telling you that someone's saying them, it's not me. Like I'm saying the lies right now, but it's a lies he said.

Like, why are you mad at me? And cats men immediately attack him in the world's most performative manner instead of attacking Littlefingers character. these guys are immediately showing off for Catalan. They're vying for her to choose them because they can... Men can also be pic-mees, by the way. Like, these are white knights that are literally virtue signaling. Actually, though.

Because they don't actually care about it. They do not care about whether or not she slept with someone. They just want to serve her. Maybe sleep with her. Get out of her mentions. Yeah, they are in her mentions. But, yeah, so we, like, come upon this new big theme. in a game of Thrones

it's being introduced to us in a new light. We're starting to see a lot about knighthood and chivalry but a new player emerges chivalry is a joke the Tyrion Lannister chapters which sounds similar to a couple other chapters

you might be saying especially like after we saw the hands turning chapters Nighthood is a big part of defining masculinity and identity and striving toward being a knight and striving towards this look at being, you know, perfection as a knight and protecting the people, but then also, I mean, I know there was that one guy who talked about all the vows, they make you swear and swear,

the conflict of that. So, Tyrion is kind of an immediate contrast to the idea of masculinity and identity in the story. He is contrasting these ideals physically and mentally, right? He's showing that he has brains and maybe he doesn't have brown yet, but you don't need that to succeed in this story is what he represents, but it's a tough road to try to represent that as we're seeing. And Catalan, the dynamic here with her is rough because she's ashamed and embarrassed of what people think of her because of these rumors, right, about her personhood. She's not going to call off her goons, though. she's avoiding to touch all of this but her position's already fragile

she's a woman leading a bunch of men right and during the attack that's about to happen she has to completely trust the men around her are going to be able to take care of this because she isn't going to be able to lead a battle charge sure she could attack with a dagger but in this moment the mountain

clams that are descending on them have some weaponry on them and there's also this very complex fact that she feels loyalty to that little boy, Peter, who was like her brother before something she feels is her fault, although it wasn't Brandon and him dueling and Brandon hurting Peter and his honor. Like before that happened to him, like she pities him.

That's the emotion she's looking for, but she's never let herself feel that. And because of all of these buckets of how she experiences the patriarchy and how her plot revolves around that and revolves around these men in her life consistently pretty much holding her to something and letting her down, like Hoster and Littlefinger too. That's a big part of this complex feeling. But exploring that part of chivalry through Tyrion as something that people are holding to be true,

but actually because of this whole chivalry and blah, blah, blah, it's obisgating the truth. Like, people are not seeing what is true. they are not woke, get woke. What is actually happening to Ned in the opposite plot, he's being obfuscated, right? As he tries to search for the truth and honor for his father figure

for John Aaron. Instead, he finds the truth of the Lannisters, right? Which again, chivalry masquerading in front of you to hide the truth, a literal white knight, Jamie, the Kingsguard, and the truth of that's his kids. Those are his children. Right there. Tyrion. Most of my kin are

bastards, but none of them are my friend. You don't got to read a book to learn all that, Ned. Confessing treason. All the time. So, yes, absolutely love all this. Like, I know that we'd like kind of, this was so long ago.

This was actually during COVID, and I know this for sure. You know, talked about how a lot of it is Catlin believing in the roles of her society, right? And unfortunately that means, as you've called out, like she hasn't completely unlearned the patriarchy and the way that the law of chivalry is just kind of covering everything up. And like, and that because of it, she, like, believes, right? She believes in those songs in a way.

Like, it looks different, but she does. And, like, so other people have said it before. I do in fact believe that Littlefinger believes he slept with Catlin in that like when Liza came into his room you know he was very drunk and she did assault him and take advantage of him in that moment right like and he thinks that was Catlin so I think he thinks that that did happen but it is still fucked up for him to tell people that

and to say that. Like, it, it is to Catlin's benefit in this moment that, like, people think that Littlefinger is such a loser weirdo that they don't believe him. And they're like, this guy's just making shit up and posturing. But even though Littlefinger believes it to be true, it is still posturing. Like, I think Littlefinger and Berries and Tyrion are all very much kind of, like, foils to one

another and I see Tyrion's storyline as him becoming essentially the Vary's like figure to Dineries. That's so weird when they all rhyme. But. It's beautiful. It's poetry. George R. Martin Lucas. And.

Oh, God. Named for two of the bravest men. Oh, my God. Stop. Thank you. So, yeah, like, as you. said, like, Katlyn is so blinded by it, she can't see the patriarchate of it all that, like, Peter's supposed love is, like, stronger for her than his desire to impress other men.

And I'm like, no, no, it's not because, unfortunately, often in this society and in Vesterosi society, men love other men more than they actually love women that they supposedly love. It is... homo romantic and heterosexual and like boom boom boom I'm not sure that Robert would have changed for Leanna maybe maybe not

probably not but he might not have been an alcoholic so there's that but nobody is the kind of guy that can wallow in it instead of yeah anyways continue but like Leanna also grew up more around Brandon

and she had like three brothers, you know, in general. And granted, you know, Ned's not like the other boys. But same as Catlin. She didn't really have a mother in some ways. Like Catlin's mother died when they were young, same as Leanna. But Leanna wasn't the firstborn in the way that Catlin was. So she saw some parts of stuff that Catlin did it, right? She saw what it was to be treated as the third, to be treated as a spare,

to be treated as the daughter in the way that Catlin is. initially was raised as the heir. And so I'm like, she recognized, I don't know. I don't know. That guy, like, I'm glad he's your, like, best friend, Ned. But I don't think that he's going to actually, like, treat me right in all this stuff. And, you know, granted, people talk about the things with Ragar and whatever, but she was also 14. And Catlin's, like, a 32-year-old woman.

And I'm like, come on, you really don't think Littlefingers going around their saying shit like that. Look at him. He's got a weird-ass goatee. Of course he is. No offense if you, listener, have a weird-ass goatee. I'm sure you're perfect. A lot to take in right there. Sorry. Also, I will say, like, I think part of it is a little bit on Tyrion. Like, I think Tyrion you could have delivered all this better. Yeah, the whole thing is he's really sarcastic, so sometimes I'm like, Tyrion, watch your mouth. Yeah. I'm like, I wouldn't have believed you.

problem. She's starting to, and it's, I don't know, it's kind of funny. Like, you said, all the men are like, how could you say that? But, like, it's such a crass thing to say. Like, you couldn't have, like, ramped up and started small and been like, oh my God, girl, let's go to the side. Let me tell you what little finger's been saying about you. But no, you talk about- Like Gaydar with Ananya, or Ananaia, oh my gosh. Yeah, but like, like, Gaydar with Ananaya. Have you seen these videos? No, I have. I love those. Okay, go ahead. I do love those. And, like, I, I, But he just talked about her maidenhead, which is like, you know, really embarrassing. Bad approach.

In front of all of these men and she's the only woman. Like, I would feel fucking vulnerable too at the same time along with all that. Well, she's trying to be a leader of them. Yeah. Tyrion. God. Well, yeah, he, he's got to work on tact, you know. He really does.

And I know you've been waterboarded. But like, chill, Tyrion. I don't know. I say awkward shit, like, even when I'm not being waterboarded. That's true, same. Same. Like, give people a little grace. No.

It is just weird to, like, talk about somebody's virginity like that. Like, you don't know her. Yeah. Like, what is with you? What is with you? Curly cat, curly, curly, Curly threatens to cut off his tongue. That feels better.

Yeah, it does actually. And Cattelin stares coldly at Tyrion, and they go back and forth. And she's like, she's like, Peter loved me once when he was a boy. It was very pure, very sweet. And Tyrion's like, he has never loved anyone but himself. And he boasts of your hot fucking body. And Curly is like, pulls his knife out. And cat's like, nope, nope, let him talk.

And she's like, how did you know? Tyrion told me. That I was so hot. Oh. Yeah. Tyrion asks how Littlefinger told her Tyrion came by his dagger and she's like well he won it from a wager and Tyrion's like oh let me guess when Jamie was on horse by night of flowers on

Joffrey's name day and Kat like gets a really conflicted look because she starts putting it together and she's like yeah wait a second and riders come upon them they interrupt this truth-seeking session very much like Ned's life in agot except he dies Yeah, so listen, like, this is very much like when the bells interrupt Katlin about to piece together, like, wait, so they weren't going to ward Robert Aaron, where I thought they were. And the plot is the strongest character, but also if they had given Katlin a little bit of Adderall, would she have remembered to come back to this later? No, dude, I don't know I don't know She's under a lot of pressure

No, you're right She probably She's under too much stress for For psychiatry to help Yeah, she is She's only 32 Oh my god But I do love

She's older than I am I do love how the plot is the strongest character I think that's so fun That it is It's like the structure is punching you in the face In this book, it's very fun And of course, this chapter becomes chaos, right?

Everyone's moving around. You learn there were, you know, people on watch. So there's like maybe a 10 to 20 minute gap before the people come at most. So everyone's kind of moving around, getting ready. We get to see them prep for the very first battle on page, actually. And Tyrion basically says, let me help. You need every sword. And everyone's like, no, you're not going to help.

But suddenly 20 to 25 mountain clansmen are on them. So seems like we're going to need his help. Murielion's frozen, he's fucking useless, clutching his harp. But Tyrion's man, Morak, moves quickly to help get armor on. And Tyrion grips Catalan is like, you have no choice. Four men could be the difference between life and death here. Catalan says, Give me your word that you will put down your swords again after the fight is done.

My word? The hoof beats were louder now. Tyrion grinned crookedly. Oh, that you have, my lady. on my honor as a lanister For a moment he thought she would have spitted him But instead she snapped, arm them And as quick as that she was pulling away

Oh spit on her or spit on him My god Which is crazy because this actually reminds me Of another chapter That gets kind of kinky Where a lanister is tied up with Catalan Reminds me of the dungeon sex chapter Which is what I'm going to refer to it as

even though that's not what happened. No, that's what happened. It is dungeon sex to me. It's a dungeon sex chapter. So I'm like, wow, she really just has a thing for the whole family. Like I understand Katzzi now. I'm like, oh, she was coming for Circe next. That was, she needed to finish the trilogy.

Wow. Maybe, oh my God, it could still happen. Holy shit, George. She went through each of them and she's like, she went through all of them, and she was like, there must be a third. I'm going to shit myself. but I am serious that this is very similar to the Jamie and Cat and Brie N chapter

you even have Jamie giving like the terrible sarcastic speech and thinking that Catalan's going to like fucking murder his ass and then instead she gives him a sword right you have the the Starks were nothing to me I will say I think it passing odd I am loved by one for a kindness I never did and reviled by so many for my finest act At Robert's coronation, I was made to kneel at the royal feet beside Grandmaster Paisal and Vary's the eunuch, so that he might forgive our crimes before he took us into his service.

As for your Ned, he should have kissed the hand that slew Ares, but he preferred to scorn the arse he found sitting on Robert's throne. I think Ned Stark loved Robert better than he ever loved his brother or his father. Or even you, my lady, he was never unfaithful to Robert, was he? Jamie gave a drunken laugh Come, Lady Stark, don't you find this all terribly amusing? Hmm.

I mean... And then she frees him. Yeah, true. True. Hmm, that is quite the parallel. And it's... Also with Sandor and Sanzah in the last big chapter for Sonsa, right,

the tourney where he like straight up is like, want to know why my face is burnt like this kid. Time to grow up, bitch. Literally. Time to grow up. So similar there too. Interesting. Like, Catalan also is dealing with a lot of these, like, honest shooters that aren't necessarily lying.

They're telling awful truths. That's true. Yeah. And, like, Jamie kind of says the same thing that we just did of, like, men love other men more than they love women. But also, like... I was just thinking that, yeah. But, like, I guess, arguably tenetion. credit, he was disloyal to

Robert for Leanna for John and very unfaithful, but also like I thought that you were going to say that this was kind of like Jamie and Brienne like Tyrion and Catlin, not in like the sexual tension kind of way, even though we are

like kind of making that argument right now for fun. But like you know, when they're being attacked and he's like, what if you breed me so I could fight Rieen's like I don't know

I don't really love that idea he's like what if he gave me a sword Yeah I love it Sword Kallin does actually take a lot of prisoners Because like Briegen's prisoner now too Even like after death That's what she does

That's kind of crazy Mother Merciless Yeah Morric Jick And Brons are all ready to fight, and Tyrion takes a double-bladed axe from Braun. Braun tells him, like, pretend you're splitting logs, and Tyrion's like, uh, to no one, logs don't bleed.

Dragon Fire can't melt steel beams. And Tyrion has never fought with an axe before, so that's why he's, like, feeling a little nervous here, and I feel there's something kind of Lord of the Rings-ish about that here, and also the imagery of logs and wood that bleeds. and how that recurs makes me think of the weird woods. Oh, I love that. Yes. Good job.

I really like that. Thank you. I didn't really say much. Yeah. I was just like wood. You did great. I love it. Thank you.

Would do. Would do. Would do. Me. What? We have a very funny back and forth of Marillion and Tyrion that I wanted to pull out where he looked around for a rock and ran over. to where Marillion was hiding.

Move over. Go away! The voice screamed back at him. I'm a singer! And they want no part of this fight. What? Lost your taste for adventure. Tyrion kicked at the youth

until he slid over in not a moment too soon. Real. Love that. I love his hatred of Marillion. No notes. No heralds, no banners, horns, or drums sing this war

that's oncoming. It's a bunch of Klansmen that are lean, dark men wearing boiled leather and mismatched armor, wielding all sorts of weaponry. They're led by a man in a striped shadow-skin cloak with a two-handed great sword and suddenly they're all falling on them fighting. In the din we hear shouts of Winterfell and Heron Hall rise. Uh, Tyrion wants to leap up and call Castorley rock out, but then he's like, no, I need to just chill and wait for them to pass. What the fuck am I doing? He watches them take down the Klansman, one by one. And suddenly, Murielion shrieks covering his head with his wood harp as a horse leaps over them.

The rider swings a spiked mall and Tyrion swings his axe back at him, catching the horse in the throat. Tyrion almost loses his grip. The animal screams and collapses on the rider. His leg is beneath the fallen mount. Merlian's less unfortunate. He's also on the ground beneath the horse and rider. The rider's leg is broken and beneath, and Tyrion comes up. and he buries the axe in the man's neck.

Yeah, we have this passage here. As he struggled to yank the blade loose, he heard Marillion moaning under the bodies. Someone help me. The singer gasped, gods have mercy. I'm bleeding. I believe that's horse blood, Tyrion said. The singer's hand came crawling out from beneath the dead animals, scrabbling in the dirt like a spider with five legs.

Tyrion put his heel on the grasping fingers and felt a satisfying crunch. Close your eyes and pretend you're dead. He advised the singer before hefted the axe and turned away. Cruel and I respected. Just fuck Marillion. Fuck that guy. But also interesting, interesting callout from Tyrion here.

Interesting behavior from him. Makes you wonder, you know, where did Joffrey get all these ideas from? Hmm. It's a cruel, Tyrion. Yeah, you really inherited it just like from both sides, you know? God. And I guess also like it's a Lanister thing to hate singers, right? The sister, Circe.

Oh, and the blue bard. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Indeed. Yep, yep, yep. It's also giving farceer with breaking fingers and also Tancel, right, with her livelihood being puppetry.

And honestly, like, even Darren, Daryon. Sorry, not Darren, Darien, because you've been talking about... The night's watch. Yeah, you've been talking about the likenesses between Aria and Tyrion. And like... Hmm, on the mind. Indeed. So everything blurs together.

Curly's dead. Jick is cut down. And then Tyrion hears a scream. Catalan is trapped now. There's three men around her back to a rock and the dagger in her hands. For a moment, Tyrion thinks, hmm, maybe I should let him take her. but then Tyrion finds himself hacking at two of the men like their rotten wood that bleeds, and the third man runs away.

Later, Braun asked if it was his first battle, and Tyrion nod, saying, Taiwan would be so proud. And Braun says, you need a woman now. It's a big deal that he was the hero, you know? And nobody will give him credit for that ever. That's true. But he was a hero. Wow. And there's also something interesting immediately.

you know, Bronn associates the bloodshed with fucking and that desire kind of also to wash it away like having a woman hold you and wash away these sorrows and wash away in a lot of the imagery we see of war in Westeros and mother of Westeros there. So interesting and that Tyrion also like, Braun is like, you need a woman and Tyrion's like, my dad would be proud and instead of my dad being proud,

he pushes harder into the needing a woman to replace that, like not to get into the like psychosexuality of it, but like, you know, replacing your dad with fucking women in camp at war in Acock. Like that's the next step for Tyrion. He's like, yeah, maybe Brown was right. Like he says that his father would be proud sarcastically, but you're right. Like I think Tywin actually would be a little like, okay. Interesting.

Yeah, I mean, Taiwan's about to burn the Riverlands down for Tyrion, whether he likes him or not. Yeah, and that's true. Like, it is a little psychosexual and also, I don't know, I think something you were talking about earlier was interesting about how he's very sheltery because I think that this is, and also you were saying like, no one's going to remember and sing about it. I'm like, we'd let Marillion live. Maybe he would have written, no, I'm joking, he probably wasn't enough to. But this is a irony that Marillion also wouldn't have written a song about Tyrion. I know.

Which is kind of like, what if season eight comes true with a song of ice and fire leaving Tyrion out? So, like, this is a take, but it's not like that hot of a take. I don't even think this is a take. You were talking about how, like, Tyrion's very sheltered, which is true. And I think that this chapter is very much a turning point for him. Like, I think we as the reader have become accustomed that this is a harsh world, where bloodshed happens. But Tyrion's also been told all his life that he's just not as good as other people And also that he's like not as physically capable

You can't fight, you eat little shit And you can't survive on your own And he's even thinking that he's like well They won't even chain me up He's like he's not gonna live out there if he tries to escape The shadow cats are gonna get him And he has just learned through what is like very much a literal death or life situation That wait

No, I'm not inept and arguably he was pretty brave by a Ned Stark definition of it. Like he was afraid, but he did the thing anyway. And I'm like, sure, here it's kind of in the context of a battle, but I don't know. I think like it is kind of touching. Maybe it's just because I'm going through something. But I'm like, I think it's touching, you know, when you think that he went through, like, he did this thing that he did not think he was capable of doing, that everyone in the world told him he could not do.

And not only that, he stood up for someone else to do it. And, like, think about it in your own lives, dear listeners. Someone tells you, like, oh, there's something that you, like, don't think you'll ever be able to do it. Even if it's something, like, really mundane. Like, maybe you never learn to cook, right? And then suddenly, like, you cook the dish. And you're like, oh, my God, I can cook. I can do this thing for myself.

So, like, Trian's, like, a young adult-ish. He's, like, 27. He's only been told, no, you are incapable his whole life. And now he's like, wait, no, I can do things. I'm not just, my only gifts are not just smart. Wait. I can do things. But too bad about the next thing that he says.

Wait, but he learns that. Before I say this, he learns that that he can kill. That's the hobby that he learned he can do. He can stick somebody in the body with a sharp, pointy object that kills them. And his whole life, he was told you'd never be physically capable of being a killer because you've got to be a killer, right?

Yeah, exactly. And then he is a killer. He kills his dad, the person who told him he wasn't a killer his entire life. Ooh. Like, that's beautiful. So that's like, this is almost even shadowing that and storm, foreshadowing that in storm of him killing his dad, right? Like, the thing my dad would be proud of me. He's going to be really proud of you too when you murder him.

Yeah. There's an arc here that goes, no, I like that. Something. That, like, his dad was like, I bet you won't. And he's like, okay. But? Yeah. Literally.

But also too bad about this next thing that Tyrion says, this was pretty shitty. Yeah, it is. But it is also still kind of like, you know, it's terrible. He's like very much our misogynistic issue, our problem child here. Yeah, that's true. Tyrion glanced over to where Lady Stark was dressing Sir Roderick's wounds. I'm willing if she is, he said. the free riders broke into laughter and Tiri and grinned and thought, there's a start.

Yeah. Impressed the men, not Catalan, get them to turn away from her. Which, oh, what if he does that with someone else in his left? Anyway. He... Interesting. I mean, there is... Is it...

Will it be a pattern? Yeah. He's learning, you know, there is social power in, like, a high charisma stat. Mm-hmm. He just, you know, has had a lot of bad... a lot of bad roles lately when he was like, Catlin, don't you believe me? Like, natural zero.

This one, he rolled high. It is kind of like crazy, though, when we're talking about, like, him being a prisoner and him being like, I'm willing if she is, like how you're talking about this, but how many Linister sons will Catlin imprison and Dom? That's it. That's a question.

Two. How many? How many? How many? Two. Like Jamie, Tyrion? Yeah, that's about it. Well, yeah. No, that's, sorry, three.

Three sons. Three Lannister sons. So afterwards, Tyrion washes all the blood off his face in a stream. It's icy fucking cold. And then he limps back to the others. And he looks down at the slain, the dead clansmen, all thin and scrawny.

Even the guy that held the great sword. He's not looking very, large here on the ground. Only three of their men died. Two of them were the Jonas Bracken men and his own man, Jick. Sir Willis wode, urges them to keep going. There will be more, and they will not wait long. Catalan says they must bury their dead, not to leave them to the crows and shadow cats, and Willis says the soil is too stony for digging. Instead, Catalan says, fine. We shall gather stones for cairns but brawn and chigin refuse and say anyone who wants to be alive come nightfall should come along with them and rodrick agrees and he's like come on we've got to and

catalan gets spoken in dissents they ride so there are two things that i think of here one is like the tower of joy and all the cairns but also the fact that they're like we can't really afford to just bury these bodies right now It makes me think of, like, the long night and how they can't afford to not burn the bodies. Yeah. Definitely thought of that, too. The Tower of Joy stuff sticks out because I'm like, this is telling you, like, how much work it is to gather stones to make cairns. So how did they make all of those cairns for all of those guys?

How did Ned do that and leave them there? I'm just saying it's not Dragon steel can't meet melt steel beams I'm just saying like it's not feasible that all of them died and all of them had to be buried like it was just

Ned Howland in a baby bro think about that what happened what's the truth Eliana are you saying the baby are you saying Arthur Dane live? I don't know but anything is fucking possible these days.

That's true. Anything's possible. Honestly, after having dug a grave for my chihuahua who is really small, it is hard to dig a grave for a whole person. Yeah. That's it. That's what I have for you. So.

I mean, a pile of rocks for that many people who was feeding the baby who was going to feed the baby that takes a while to make a huge pile of cairns for each person and taking down the tower brick by brick to do so

how did he do it okay sorry you can go on now we can move on I just am saying the truth is fucking out there the truth is out there Ashara is real it is it is George stands up from the crowd

she's right She's right Aris makes to take his dagger back from Tyrion But Catlin stops him and says to make sure That actually Tyrion should be armed with the dagger And the axe in case they're attacked again And then Tyrion

Thanks Katlyn But she tells him She doesn't trust him any more than she did before And Tyrion's all like Lady Sturt could keep her trust So long as he could keep the axe He would count himself ahead in the game Of Thrones

Oh, I was thinking high school musical. I did too, actually, first. I did too. I went for a general first. I hoped you would go there. When we're done with the Hager Games books, should we cover? Uh-uh. We need, okay, put it in the dock.

Put it in the existential dock. Go put it in the dock. That's where you need to go. Yeah, that's where that needs to go. We need to keep that in the existential crisis brainstorming dock, okay? Yeah, this is a real thing that exists now, everyone. Marillion keeps throwing Solon looks at Tyrion with his broken ribs and fingers, but the little singer had a new shadow cat float with thick black fur and white stripe

sounds fashionable. It wasn't a total loss. Later, they hear Shadow Cats fighting over the corpses that they left behind. Marillion grew visibly pale. Tyrion trotted up beside him. Craven, he said, rhymes nicely with Raven. He kicked his horse and moved past the singer up to Sir Roderick and Catlin Stark. She looked at him, lips pressed tightly together. As I was saying before we were so rudely interrupted, Tyrion began, there was a serious flaw in Little Fingers' Fable. Whatever you may believe of me, Lady Stark, I promise you this.

I never bet against my family. Ooh. Love this compared to Tyrion one with Jamie, right? where he says to Jamie, why, Jamie, my sweet brother, you wound me, you know how much I love my family. Once more reinforcing these dynamics with the family. This very much, you know, it's interesting that Jamie and Cersy had the incest and also the incestuousness of the family and totality of like your sexuality is controlled by your father pretty much. Like your father's abuse is taking through all of your blood cells Like your plot revolves solely around the love for your family

And your independence from them And the battle between having that And also still loving them and wanting them to be proud of you But also understanding that like Their hatred is what is in your veins Like it's like so fucked up for Tyrion Of course he is surrounded by this And it's like beautiful, sweet, sweet,

pure. It's like how Catalan says that Little Fingers love for her was like it was sweet, it was pure. Tyrion's got a little bit of that dreamer quality about his family in some ways when it feels good in order to survive it when it feels bad. Yeah, he's got

like this really ambivalent feeling in that both as you said, like he yearns for their acceptance and love but obviously he has a distaste for them because I don't know, it is kind of weird.

The twin cuss is kind of weird. Yeah, definitely weird. Not right. His dad being abusive to him also weird. And then his dad, all the other stuff. But at the same time, like, he feels that their family, he doesn't bet against them because he buys into the mythos of them. Like, he feels they are inevitable. He feels that they are omniscient.

And I do think that that's, like, a big part of his overall art. being able to go against them, right? Like, I think that the never bet against my family, the implications of it loom large when you think of how he does turn on the linisters, he does turn on his dad, he's like, you are not all powerful, right? And nothing says betting against your family,

quite like killing your dad. I've heard this. And then supporting, like, a whole other regime to take them down. Those very much say, betting against them. betting against my family and

so never say never I guess that's the whole point of the characteristic thing right and then like also I'm not unless you want to but I don't really know that we have time to talk about it this episode

but like in terms of never betting against my family and then like what if his family is actually Targaryen's Oh another family that burnt themselves down Oh true God, he's got it on both sides.

Poor fucker. Oh, it's so hard. We'll get into that more. Next episode is definitely going to be crazy. It is a big chapter up in the veil. Really excited to see some characters we haven't seen in quite a bit of time. Very much enjoyed this chapter, actually. I feel...

It's a big one. To give you the Chloe grading of it, I actually feel like I came out of this chapter, really having a great episode with you. So, to grade you on your performance. Good job, Elion. Thank you. Wow. Incredible.

You're welcome. You're still in the running to be America's Next Top, my family member of Lister. You know what? Just roll with it. Okay. Yeah. We'll be back next week. Oh my gosh.

I hate it here. That's what they do, right? Next week. Yeah, they do. They do. You did a really good job. Thank you. A really good job.

We will return next week for Tyrion 5. In a Game of Thrones. We're kicking some butt. Our fifth Tyrion. Oh, my God. I'm excited. Next chapter is just such a big. It's a beautiful chapter.

I love the veil. I'm excited to be back there. Hmm. True. It'll be like the last time we're there for a while. Ah. Well, if you... What do you mean?

Oh, like in general. The book? Wasn't that the last time we were there? No, I mean, like Sonsa and a Feast for Crows would have been the last time we were there, right? In The Vale? Or was it Catalan? No, Catalan. Yeah, probably Catalan.

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