Girls Gone Canon Cast - House of the Dragon S2E1: A Son For a Son

Episode Date: June 19, 2024

SPOILERS: ASOIAF, F&B, KOT7K, TWOIAF, ETC Clink clink, we're back with S2 to sling that HOT D. Expect controversy, drama, and of course, shenanigans from your favorite girlies who are indeed going canon. Check out our patreon where all members get early access to House of the Dragon episodes during the season @ patreon.com/girlsgonecanon   Sound Effects from Pixabay "Night Vigil" "Big Drumming" & "Past the Edge" by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ THANKS KEVIN!!

Hello Hello, and welcome to Girls Gone Canon Watches House of the Dragon, Season 2, Episode 1, A Son for a Son. I am one of your hosts, Chloe. And I am another one of your hosts, Eliana. Welcome! Oh my god, we've been waiting so long for this. Actually, the last time that I saw you in person was season one. That is so weird. We have not seen each other in two years, and we are sitting next to one another as we record today. It's kind of exciting. We're gonna be together a couple times this season. Not all of it, but gives us something to look forward to. Indeed. Well, if you haven't been with us

in the previous season, last time on House of the Dragon, welcome. Welcome aboard for the first time or for our returning friends. We're happy to have have you this is a spoilers all podcast that means that if you have not read fire and blood a song of ice and fire i don't know other other works by george rr martin we're probably going to talk about and we talk about everything we love to yap if you haven't read those or watched game of thrones or watched house of the dragons season one read those, or watched Game of Thrones, or watched House of the Dragons season one, you're gonna get spoiled. Yeah, we're Girls Gone Canon. Of course we're gonna spoil Fire and Blood. And yes, so why are we doing this? If you're just tuning in now, we are doing it because, frankly, it's just more enjoyable for us. And if it's more enjoyable for

us, you're going to get better quality thoughts out of us. You're going to get a better episode. And we just want to be able to put out, you know, the best sort of analysis that we can. So we are doing completely spoilers all, which means we are going to talk about the big beats that are going to happen this season and throughout the entire Dance of the Dragons, which is the war that we are in right now. So. And oh boy, Ariana, are we in it? Ariana. You know, Jason Mendoza, The Good Place. Oh.

Oh, Ariana, we're in it now. I am Jason Mendoza coded. I know, that's why I love you. I also love you for like who you are. If it's your first time and you are just scrolling around looking for a hot D podcast, we are usually in a Song of Ice and Fire podcast. We are rereading A Song of Ice and Fire for the bajillionth time, POV character by POV character. So we just wrapped up John Connington's chapters and our next POV after House of the Dragon will be the epilogues.

I'm very excited for those. And we have two amazing guests coming on. Stick around the rest of the season so that you can find out who those guests are. Yeah, we are going to follow up the season with sort of like two little retrospectives of Unleash the D as well. If you want to listen to our preseason Unleash the D episode, some of those are probably still going to be relevant. This is only episode one of the season.

We did one non-spoilers episode with our friend Chica, and then two more spoilers all episodes with Glytus and Hannah of Game of Owns. Yeah, Unleash the D is our hit primer series for House of the Dragon that critics are calling bold, informative, maybe too informative. You've got to check it out. Yes, and we're actually going to reference some stuff that I feel pretty glad that we discussed during those episodes in this one. Some other things if you want to get to know our other Song of Ice and Fire content, including our previous thoughts on the Dance of the Dragons based solely on Fire and Blood, we do have a Patreon where we've covered a lot of this information and other things. You can find us on patreon.com slash girlsgoncanon, C-A-N-O-N. Yeah, head over there for perks like bonus episodes every single month.

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House of the Dragon season two, happy hot deeing, you get early eps. So you better go over there and subscribe ASAP. Indeed. Well, that's enough preamble. I know what y'all are here for. Let's talk about it. Let's get into the House of the Dragon. Yeah, we're here to sling the hot D. to the house of the dragon. Yeah, we're here to sling the hot D. So first up, most controversial thing of the season yet. I'm the only person saying this in the whole world, I'm pretty sure. And it's only been one episode in one time of seeing it, but I think I prefer the old intro. Is that fucked up? I don't think it's fucked up but i do think it's wrong thank you okay as we're adults we can um discuss this as adults but yeah i i don't know i was maybe i was just comfortable maybe i'm just not ready and now that i've seen the tapestry in more detail today on the

internet i do like it for what it's worth it's just i was married to the river of blood going down the symbols i i don't know i just like the idea of it i remember seeing the tapestry last year and i'm like wow i can't believe that's what they did with it i kind of think it's interesting that the threads coming up look like little worms and i don't know that that's what they're going for but I'm into it. Like fireworms. Yeah. Or nematodes. Or wyverns. Okay. Okay. I could get to it with that. I don't mind the song. I know a lot of people wanted a new song. I don't care. I mean, I get it. You gotta stick to the OG, but like in Weeds or what were you saying the other day? You were saying anime. Anime int anime intros well i would love like in weeds the intro to weeds has later seasons covers of the intro by bands and shit oh the wire does that

yeah the wire yeah that's why yeah the wire so i would love that show yeah i would love like maybe a new version could be cool i don't know i bet we'll get a new one for dunkin egg and i definitely think we might get a new one for Dunkin' Egg. And I definitely think we might get a new one for 10,000 ships, assuming that happens. Just because, look, I mean, if you're going to do an animated show, just lean into it. I think not just that, but also it's so different. You know, it's like a different location. They need to not evoke King's Landing. They need to evoke elsewhere.

And maybe the Conqueror show will have a different one. Oh, interesting. Yeah, maybe. It was fun. I like it. I'm down. elsewhere and maybe the conqueror show will have a different one oh interesting yeah maybe it was fun i like it i'm down i have to point out a tweet of note at the front that my roommate tweeted actually you've been my roommate this week but my second roommate um my rainies you're my visenya uh my rainies tweeted from at poor quinton episode started with the Starks giving up a son and ended with the Targaryens losing one. Hashtag house of the dragon. I thought that was so eloquent and what a well.

Like it was something that like, listen, this Emmer effort tweeted it like right after the episode. I'm like, where did you get this thought? How was your brain on right now? But it was a great thought. Really good thought and i think puts a lot of that theme of the season an episode of sacrifice and grief into retrospect yeah yeah how was his brain on at that time right how does he do it dude how does he do it he got up quietly i thought he was just going to bed but nope he was out here slinging hits and yeah I mean I think I really loved how this episode was just packaged in general because along with how it's speaking from beginning to end I

think George's chapters do a really good job of also opening with something and ending with something that like ties it the whole chapter together within those povs this episode i feel is just as a whole strong in terms of how it converses with the other parts of the story right i think this episode is very much in conversation with season one episode one right you've got death of children just like how bailan died and also emma died which you'll talk about um and we've got rain near his grief when it comes to those family members'll talk about um and we've got rain nira's grief when it comes to those family members and other family members here we've got a discussion of heirs in terms of you know corley's his heir who spoiler not spoiler because we saw it all in the last season is dead

oh my god he's dead okay agan's heir also dead rain nira's air not not dead yet but still like yes he's being featured right we open the episode on him as the air and we have the episode titles of the heirs of the dragon that's season one's opener with this one a son for a son there's a thematic tie going on here i love that you've drawn the funeral aspect to lucerys's death and emma's death and especially with how small the funeral was right this funeral was more intimate it was not a big spectacle in front of all of the court of king's landing it was a spectacle in front of the intimacy of family members of dragon stone you know dragon stone is like kind of a smaller place um and even that great scene at the front and we're gonna go a little bit by location today after these miscellaneous thoughts but one of the great scenes at the front i have

to call out is rainies for those that mispronounce it like the show rainies but that's denise re nice uh rainies to damon right was kind of brought up. Grieve until I had her physical remains and just that idea, right, of like humans on earth still needing, well, gods in heaven if you're a Targaryen, but humans on earth needing that mortal touch. Even the gods need a mortal touch for grief. Yeah, and I love that you've tied it with the one with Emma and what you said about it being this really intimate thing, because something we're going to talk about here and that has been ongoing throughout the series is what you get to keep for yourself, what you get to keep in private as a person. And this is just something that, you know, we think about a lot in terms of,

you know, what is to be shared and what is not. Especially as we've been discussing the Hunger Games. Luke's funeral, she didn't have to perform, right? That was just her being sad. Whereas with Emma and Balin, Damon comes up and is like, yo, you gotta be strong right now. You have to be strong for all these people and your dad. Like, you need to speak publicly. And that's the difference, right?

This episode, Rhaenyra didn't speak at all yes except for the most famous lines that we'll talk about today i want amen targaryen yes and i don't know i just really love we'll come back to that because i think it's something that is an ongoing theme in season one season two probably throughout the whole series a lot of people are gonna die but the idea of grief and this series i think is close to my heart because like i was grieving when season one aired so yeah yeah absolutely and grief is one of those things that just keeps fucking happening as you age, unfortunately. It really is. And then when you're in circumstances like a civil war, probably a lot more. So, hmm, hmm, hmm, fuck. So just imagine how they feel, Eliana.

God. I do, I do. And I think I don't have to because they do such a good job of acting it. Yeah, for you. You know, you don't even have to. That's great. Eliana, a quick, real big note. Can we up our candle budget?

Yeah. Because they upped their candle budget and look at them they're great i love candles i didn't know that you were into candles i would have brought you a candle oh shit did you smell the one in your bathroom no oh it's so good you gotta smell it tonight we'll light it for a bit it's like it's like brown sugary you guys it's like real sweet and low and it's like i don't know it's a pooping candle you know if you gotta poop you light it that's like a real thing that like i assume maybe all of you knew this uh i visited a friend and like crash in the next morning there was only one bathroom he had to dump before i did sorry sorry giving out all his dirty laundry and when

i went in there the candle was on and it like i was like yo this is the move i never thought to do that so i guess it worked and this is i had to poop right it's tangentially related because like dragons and sulfur but like if you it's the lighting of the actual candle that smoke igniting that i believe the flame absorbs especially scent yeah yeah so um but i don't do it for myself. I just do it for guests. So guests are special. Guest right.

It's called guest right in Aeswaf. All of you probably already knew this, but for me it was like a mind-blowing revelation, life lessons here on Girls Gone Canon. Let's talk about the weather. Speaking of the weather, in this episode, I found it really galling that we're starting to get a lot of rain. And obviously we had that, and you reminded me of this, that rain storms.

And it must rain, though, pretty often. Rain-era. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Rain-ice. Even funnier. No, I think it is funny. But yeah, it was raining. I had storms

on where Luke died. And then today, today, today, this just happened to me, you know, me and a friend, Helena. Oh my God, you won't believe what happened to my friend Helena today. It sucked, but real bad. But Helena, outside of Helena's room out in that courtyard, which also horrible design, it was just fucking raining, just raining room, out in that courtyard, which also horrible design. It was just fucking raining. Just raining up a storm in that courtyard at King's Landing. And it's giving a storm of swords. It's giving Catalan chapters in the Riverlands where everything was raining and everything felt horrible

and everyone was dying. Lots of Catalan vibes, right? You have the reunion hug with Jace. Oh, yeah. And Rhaenyra was giving, we'll get the girls back and we'll kill them all. Like it was giving Michelle Fairley hugging, uh, what's Rob's name? Rob. Rob. No, Richard Madden. Fuck. That's his name. It's like ingrained, but it's giving a storm of sorts in my opinion, my opinion, which is pretty much where we are, right? That's the book where crazy shit hits the fan.

Yeah, crazy shit's going to hit the fan, for sure. And also, it feels like autumn, because we're getting a lot of talk of winter impending in these episodes. So a lot of autumn weather involves rain. I also want to talk, you know, before we jump into it, like overall the episode, I think I know that people feel like it seems like everyone, all the characters are sort of stumbling into decisions by mistake, but I've heard that Veep, also an HBO show, is the most accurate depiction of the U.S. government and this show is about government so I assume that this is actually a fantastic portrayal and very realistic wait you mean just like when Selina Meyer was like yeah take care of him

and he was like oh I thought you meant take care of him is that going to be Damon and Rhaenyra in episode two yeah I think that's like literally what happened here right yeah of him and he was like oh i thought you meant take care of him is that gonna be damon and raniera in episode two yeah i think that's like literally what happened here right yeah because she was like i want amon targaryen and damon was like oh bet and it's about a woman becoming president that too yeah accidentally ish yeah so is it the same show i'm not saying it's not. And what I do love about what we're shown in this episode in this story is that the characters we have here, they're all meant to just really depict humanity, you know, our hopes, our cravings, our good and our flaws. And we were talking about this prior to the episode, how I love this quote from brian stevenson

who is the founder and executive director of the equal justice initiative but um i actually heard quote i guess in the context of american fiction but it's that each of us is more than the worst thing we've ever done and some of these people have done really bad things i guess in this in this show but i just think that that's a fantastic way of looking at people. Yeah. In this universe, but also out of it. Like, in real life, too. Yeah, exactly.

That's what I'm saying. You know, Stannis and Davos have that great back and forth about men's worths and you know uh what's the fucking line i don't know but yeah uh what is the life of one bastard boy against whole kingdom no i mean that yeah exactly though like what is a life against everyone and then vice versa uh but also then you think you know men's lives have meaning not their deaths and uh men being a pile of good and bad instead of you know there's just all these great themes in Aeswaf that George is shoving down our necks saying a man's worst things aren't, that's not his definition.

Yeah, one good deed does not wash out the bad, nor the bad the good. Yeah, I don't know why. I quote Stannis a lot for someone who doesn't like him very much, but I like this version of Stannis, Rhaenyra. Thank you for your response. Yes, Renly and Stannis sure are about to fight this season as poor quentin is want to say right this is his uh poor quentin doesn't love the dance

but he loves it now that it's renly and stannis again you saw my face i was like well that's wrong yeah dance rocks and uh he loves this version of it i think we're having a really good time all of us i mean watching it was fun but and it's a good time it's a good time so far i mean i'm having fun overall like you said i think this episode was fucking great yeah i think like i said it does a great job of showing them as these very human flawed characters but also with something to admire in them and or if not admire to relate to and i i want to remind everyone you know even though i say yes realistic you know give give sympathy and empathy to real these are not real people they are characters this is a story but it does a great job of giving you a lens in which to

understand humanity like on the iron throne it's a boy he's a kid he's in many ways yeah a kid drunk with power and with love having never had love ever in his life. And he's surrounded by family members who serve him, who want to make him a puppet, who arguably maybe love him, but definitely do not like him. They do not like him. Man, you even hurt me with it. Like, that's sad.

That's a genuinely empty, sad. He's not living. And it's how Viserys was puppeted at the end of his reign. Yeah. And it's what the roles become. And I think that's actually, now that you put it like that, really interesting as we see him reclaiming personhood and not being a puppet,

even though the cost of what that is, it's pretty high. I mean, he was not painted great first season because he's very flawed. Other other flawed person Dragonstone we have a woman you know I'm not I'm not calling them a king or queen just a woman who's grieving not just her son but also her father who died days before her son did and then the symbol of his love for her was stolen and then she's also grieving the miscarriage and stillbirth, another child.

And she's surrounded by people who love her, but they need her. They need her to not be grieving and to actually be taking control right now. They need her to be working. Which is the opposite of if you love somebody in this position, what you do to them. Yeah, but at the same time like she wouldn't let them necessarily do orders without them because that's her job and it's hard it's a difficult position to be put in and then you know we'll talk about the there's another really big centerpiece this other woman also grieving we'll get to her in a bit yeah i like that you've set it up like contenders in a

ring you know like a boxing match yeah that's why i was like we'll come back to her yes before we get into all this family drama which eliana and i are want to love we like a little familial drama okay who doesn't like a little family he doesn't love the opening line of Anna Karenina. Listen, you know what was a good opening line? The fucking Stark theme, Goodbye Brother, playing. Is that what

the theme is called? I didn't know that. Dang. Goodbye Brother. Ramin, you animal. Ramin. We're in Winterfell. It was so um, it was the Ultimate Thrones is back, baby. Like the watching the fucking Raven fly across like one lands environment. And then boom, it's that Winterfell.

And then boom, we go to the wall. So sick. So sick that I have to read the, uh, the Cregan. Should I do it in the. Okay. Let me set it up first. Let me get, let me set context first of like so chloe is going to bring back bring back an award-winning egot egot earning performance the dogs are

howling outside because they're so excited for this those are the wolves and we've heard that people say that cregan stark's performance was giving chloe's john snow voice from the john snow read through chapters and i think i think that just calls for a reprise i can't believe i'm doing this all right yeah please um listen or don't listen to our john snow chapters from the 2020 era it was a time that was a different time i i don't know who I was and what was happening anymore. I don't know, but I would do a pleasing dance for Eliana whenever she asked. She would be like, do the Jon Snow voice

or else you get the lashings from the noodle again. And I'd be like, okay. Yeah, that was 2019. That was the time the show ended. Ah. At a time. Duty is sacrifice. It eclipses all things, even blood.

All men of honor must pay its price. The North owes a great duty to the Seven Kingdoms, one older than any oath. Since the days of the First Men, we have stood as guardians against the cold and the dark. Through its long tradition, the Night's Watch cultivated its strength from doomed men who had their life as their only possession. But my ancestor, Torrhen Stark, began a tradition by making an offering at the onset of winter. began a tradition by making an offering at the onset of winter.

One in ten men from our household was to be chosen to fortify the watch. This is not a sentence, but an honor, a duty embraced by all who serve the North, even by mine own kin. The North must stand ready. Winter is coming. I added a little more of the Northern Scottish with it because I feel like he had he did have a different accent but yeah I will say like yes it was a little shoddy northern but not quite Jon Snow in my book. Yeah and I'm sorry I giggled. It was funny

you were in the moment. I was just like Tors dark yeah torrents dark uh yeah no that was cool as fuck though like i'm sorry that i just did that and you all listened to it so if you keep listening good for you thanks for being here yeah i that opening was great and now that you mentioned it the the raven coming in you get that dark wings dark words kind of opening but also that's a visual motif that's carrying us throughout the whole episode with the wings and the flying and then we have a lot of dragons flying around and being like oh no it's a threat wait no that's our dragon throughout the whole thing so there's that ambiguity between flying creature what is it yeah you have the even from the landing then of rainies yeah then you have um when you're

vegar then xerox yeah uh that's beautiful that's really well done it does serve as like a visual to take you through the narrative yeah i love that i love the stone tradition that we saw in winterfell where cregan is describing that even his family is an exempt that one in ten has to go to the Night's Watch and they open the bag and if you have the black stone you have to go to the wall and of course that's being said as he says that this is not a sentence but an honor it is an honor because back in the day the watch was different, right? It was a different time. I hear from, I want to say like E-Weekly, Cregan's done till season three. So that sucks, right?

Like I really did enjoy his character. I loved seeing Ice. Fuck Tywin. I want to put that out there. I don't know if I've said it recently enough. So fuck Tywin Lannister for who he is as a person. But great to see Ice. Great to see Winterfell I mean the wall

oh she looked good it was it was almost like I don't know it was like seeing it for the first time but obviously not but just it had such majesty to it that really brings the magic back into it yeah there's some stuff that I think in season one they were maybe hesitant to rely too much on yeah nostalgia wise like they wanted to be their own show but also make their own way of sometimes because of the money and who it is hot d what is at its core it looks too good for being like pre where we should be in the story in some ways but sometimes it looks better in a good way like it should be. I just appreciate it visually and aesthetically for what it is.

Gorgeous. The only downer for me is no Sarah Snow, but I already knew it. Like, I already knew. I knew they weren't going to Sarah Snow, especially if this is our one and done stop. We probably now have to go set up the whole Alice Ann Blackwood thing, which, spoiler, their first kitty named Sarah. It's just in the books we're not in the books we're in the hot d but the moment we got there i knew i already knew before that i mean i told you in glidus i didn't think it was gonna happen

but we do get there at the courtyard of winterfell one of my favorite places as that beautiful theme is playing and we see two women off to the side and i was like is one of them sarfell one of my favorite places as that beautiful theme is playing and we see two women off to the side and i was like is one of them sarah is one of them sarah but it wasn't it was absolutely not sarah yeah it's interesting that they don't keep it just because a lot of the dance is it's a little loose as an outline so there was definitely room to garden some of that in there and then like kind of draw the story out build it in but maybe they just wanted to keep the story very focused on the family drama so it might make sense that they didn't go into it as much because I mean on one hand side plot can be fun on the other hand I think of my critiques of season three of Bridgerton

and I'm like our side plot's not fun that's fair i i don't know i don't know i will say that i'm bummed that we're not gonna see craig in the rest of this season because i actually liked him i think he was cast pretty well he does a good job of being like i'm a young man but i could see him in a metal band interesting do you not feel that way i could i could maybe i think he could be in a metal band and this gives him enough time to grow a beard which we also discussed with glidus i'm like how long does it take for him to grow a beard so this if we don't see him this season he can grow a beard yeah he can grow black alley yeah that's then go back to jacerys his boyfriend and then go talk to like what young agan the third in the douglas wheatley illustration yeah he's gonna he's gonna need that beard to

really pull off the hour of the man hour of the world without it yeah how are one i mean winter's coming bro he's got to grow a beard I think actually that's something to think about in terms of what it means to rule because Cregan's starting to make some pretty hard decisions when it comes to the hour of the wolf, even though I do frequently say, was it him or was it the women? Unsure. We'll come back to that one day. There's, we've got this discussion, as you said, opening this episode about duty is sacrifice and these, this, I think echoes throughout the episode.

We have like this idea of things being your duty tying into later on with Alan and Corley's talking and Corley's just being like, I heard you're the one who saved me. Thank you. And Alan's like, it was just my duty. And it's like, well, what is duty? What is duty and sacrifice when it comes to your family like there is honor and duty when you think of those blood ties and what you owe them especially you know as an asian american i have thoughts on that but go on he's just like i mean that's it you can all all infer. Then we have the, as you said, stone tradition

and how it's one out of ten ties well with the tithing that's discussed during the petitioning of the small folk to Aegon because you have one out of every ten sheep being taken. So this idea of people and flocks starts coming together. Maybe it's foreshadowing for the shepherd. Who do you think will get him? Maybe, maybe not. And the usage of stones to decide who goes feels very inspired by the short story, The Lottery, by Shirley Jackson.

Which I'm pretty sure we've discussed. I want to say it was in the context of the free cities. And how the tattered prince got chosen. The Prince of Pentos. so i thought that was really fun i love tying it to the tithing of the sheeps tying to the tithing the next book in the series but i love i mean it's for a war that's aragon's tax policy actually i literally though i do think that's such a great call especially because he's also asking for armies while he's there right and cregan is telling him most of my armies are old men who are ready to die in winter man like they're not

i mean they'll be fierce as fuck but they'll die yeah because we've given all of our soldiers to this other war that we are very afraid of and that as we know from game of thrones does happen they're very understaffed by the time we get there yeah the watch continues to suffer and it's great to well it's not great but it's cool to see it at more of its height where it's respected where the opposite of book one a game in a game of thrones right where we're hearing that no one respects the watch they're clearing out the dungeons and taking all the assholes i mean hell we're just killing prisoners in this larry's is just out there murdering prisoners we could have been putting them to work at the wall just kidding yeah it's a joke i don't agree

with it but you know surplus of people but they they're taking the war seriously because A, the North does, and B, the Targaryens, just two generations ago, took it seriously, right? Because I called it in our discussion with Hannah of Game of Thrones that I was like, what if they referenced Alysanne going to the Wall? They threw in Jaehaerys because I guess they got to throw in, I don't know, your token man there or whatever. But it was just Alysanand who took it pretty seriously. Reminder. And the dragons were afraid. So they were like, yo, something's actually going on here. And so you're taking one-tenth of whichever human or sheep flock were the war.

And lastly, I want to say I really feel for Cregan because he's given this message like, oh, cool, new mail. And then he opens the letter and like, I would not want to be in the position of having to tell my new best friend that like, hey, only known you for a bit, but your brother died. Not just your new best friend, but quote-unquote crown prince. Yeah. And okay not to shake my little tail feather since you shook yours but I did say that Jace would get a letter to return home. Yeah. I just said it probably would be at the veil so I was kind of wrong. I was half wrong. I was but you were half wrong too because you didn't call out jaharis so we can suffer well george didn't call out jaharis how could i've known and wait now that i think about it is is it a is it like when catlin it opens in a game of thrones being like hey ned by the way your father figure's dead but this is season two so it's not actually like

that at all but i was wrong i mean robert's rebellion was built on a lie just like this episode and many others have suggested i'm just kidding i'm sorry sorry i said that but i am kind of like not kidding in that it is all you know built on misinformation kind of like a lot of different like back and forth thing and fuck ups and misunderstandings like life is life is built on that i guess misinformation anyways yeah i don't know i think there's something in there that this has that feel of the rebellion in a different way right george likes his Civil War infightings. He really does, which is why, listen, the War of the Nine Penny Kings, which is not an infighting at all, but in a way it kind of is because it's one of the Blackfire Rebellions. Anyway.

Oh, I do hope we get a little, I know we talked about this with Hannah from Game of Owns in Unleash the D, Season 2, Episode 3. from Game of Thrones in Unleash the D, season two, episode three. It would be interesting to be able to introduce with Duncan Egg and other shows kind of that idea of the Blackfriars, right? That way you can build up to getting something like The War of the Ninepenny Kings. Yes.

That's it, yes. That's it. Eliana, where is the raven taking us this time? It took us to the north. I mean, now, like, we're out of the north. I mean, that's it. Goodbye, Cregan. Goodbye, Cregan.

We're gonna... We just kind of organized this discussion based on location. We're winging it, just like the raven. Oh my god. We're going to King's Landing. Kings, courts, courts courtships my gosh uh should we start with maybe one of the not surprising necessarily but like a pleasant kind of surprise in a way agan this episode was enjoyable very i knew he would be i knew tom glenn car would show it up, but in universe enjoyable, right? Agin was so accidentally funny and adorable and not as annoying as I expected him to be.

He was trying to be a dad for the first time. I loved him. I'll come back to this later because i think it draws to a couple things but him saying the small folk are the backbone of the war to hew the hammer and then of course later the small folk are who murders his son well one of them yeah but technically the other one too in the books yeah they're easily like you can see what the stakes are to them versus what the stakes are to agan right that was the biggest that that kind of dynamic of power and that agan has all this power and they have none and that damon could dangle money in front of them and it was you know you're risking their whole life you're just risk and you're just risking like a bag of gold yeah it's just such a heavy weight so interesting um

seeing him kind of interface in court i wanted to bring up his buddies as our friend manu says or tweeted i loved this tweet he said the agumes agumes sounds like legumes legumes oh like little beans so agan's goons his buddies are leon eastermont martin rain and eddard waters red ned i thought this was kind of interesting and stood out that uh they're kind of like backup baratheons backup lannisters right you have eastermont rain and then red ned hopefully we get to learn a little more about him, but I thought that was kind of interesting. Yeah, I didn't know who was there, but they are backup Baratheons, and I do think you might see some of them playing a bigger role in the main story whenever, I don't know, the sixth or seventh books come out. But it's cool also just to see a king have a retinue, or any of the rulers, to be honest. Also, really, having Martin Reign be his best buddy,

and then having him giving so much grief to Tyland in council stands out to me. Especially with what we know of what comes of the reigns of Castamere against the hands of the Lannisters. It's kind of interesting. It puts a power dynamic there that this is his buddy and he doesn't like Tyland Lannister in court. So Tyland's probably shitting himself every day, like he was during the council. Yeah. I mean, each of these Lannister twins, they're each getting grief from one of these, one of Viserys' little children, jason got it from reneara it was deserved got it from agan yeah maybe not so deserved thailand uh thailand i have sympathy for for sure yeah he's gonna become a great character yeah agan at court is doing kind of the opposite of what visiserys did. In all ways, he's inviting Aemond to sit at the table,

although everyone's like, why would you do this? And Viserys sent Daemon away at every opportunity at Otto's beckoning, right? Yeah, it's because Otto was like, I'm your brother now. And Aegon's kind of just not listening to Otto and not listening to his mom because, oh, that's what Viserys did now that I think about it. Yep. And what you were saying. Yep.

And not just that, but then he's doing what Viserys didn't, and he's inviting Jaehaerys, his son, his small four-year-old, to the small council, whether it's a smart move or not. He's saying, well, I should have been there, so he should have too. And then he's also keeping his friends around, these friends we just mentioned. He's like hanging out on the throne after hours with them when he could go fuck or drink or whatever he wants to do. He's the king. He's hanging out in the throne room with them, having a drink and talking about his great reign wistfully, right? About who he's

going to be. Not Aegon the Magnanimanimous no one knows what that word means but definitely not aegon the strong either that made me laugh uh aegon the generous right or aegon anything who knows yeah the the magnanimous stuff i think was a fun comedic touch because it's a it's a little extra as a name and aegon was also like that's a little extra and also the moment that he said the magnanimous i turned to you I was like that boy doesn't know what that means and later on he's like I don't even know what that means like I knew it what was it they were calling Viserys in show Viserys the peaceful or something yeah because he hated conflict yeah there's always a PR comms direction to spin the ship here in in king's landing and i will say you know ned style

you should know the men who serve you right and you have viserys who was isolated alone otto wouldn't allow that and everyone else around him using him as a puppet wouldn't allow that my god yeah otto wouldn't let anyone else nearby because i think honestly lionel strong homie but now that i think about it also Viserys it makes sense especially in his later years for him to want to be to spend more time alone because he's in pain his body is crumbling literally with the leprosy like thing and then he's he's again in chronic pain that's not something you want to have to be around people and perform for so tell me about it yeah yeah so i get that but it's also funny

because you're like yeah you could be out fucking and drinking like he's only doing one of those things um something that was fun about the court scene that you had to point out because i miss it if you're like i love the statue of the series i was like where where okay the color of it blended in the background and i was like that's a bargainer statue from tears of the kingdom it looks like it i'm gonna go to that statue of a series and be like let me trade in my pose and buy things and anyway it's looming over the court and it reminds me of this one time that i watched a production of julius caesar the shakespeare play where in the act after after caesar dies his actor just stayed on stage as a ghost this is not i think necessarily in any of the stage directions if you read julius caesar this was a choice by the director, and this ghost is not

speaking. He's just in the background staring menacingly, moving around the stage, and he's not even being noticed by the other characters. And it gives you this idea and reminds you that Caesar's ghost is hanging over all of the actions as they go to war. This is also an interesting production in that the first part where Caesar's alive and they're not at war, they look and are dressed like Romans. And then in the second part after Caesar dies, everyone's dressed in like World War I military attire and they're fighting. Fun stuff. Amazing. We're at war, everyone war everyone surprise but his ghost looms large over the whole thing viserys's does and his influence over everything and how all the

characters are progressing like he's hardly ever mentioned by otto except referencing his passing and like we really fucked up since the since the king died but he doesn't say it like that he says it was what i've made and i'm like shut the fuck up otto we're seeing like how allison is reacting to his absence in in which we'll discuss in a second we're seeing how egan is we're seeing reneara and damon like these are people who were close to him like maybe not egan but in a way egan was you know what i'm saying like and reneara's grief is catching up to her as is allison's we'll come back to it and it's all about who they're grief is catching up to her, as is Alicent's. We'll come back to it. It's all about who they're supposed to live up to be, even if they weren't close to him, you know?

Even if it's not living up to who they're supposed to be, because not necessarily anyone is like that, but when you lose someone who's that big of a presence in your life, that changes the entire landscape of your world. Well, I mean, everyone's also turning to Aegon and saying saying you have to be a king now yeah that's scary and he's not he's not prepared for it like they i don't know what they were all thinking they were like we're gonna prop up this kid and not prepare him in any fucking way even as a backup like what happened to an air in the spear you know like god aegon at court you're talking about how he was discussing with hugh the hammer the small Like, what happened to an heir in the spear, you know? Like, God. Aegon at court, you're talking about how he was discussing with Hugh the Hammer,

the small folk are the backbone. And you and I were also talking about this last night. I don't know that, I don't think Aegon's, like, actually a good king. And I think that what he's doing in that room when he's hearing the petitions is just what any decent person would do if they were a leader and put face to face with other people's problems. You hear someone ask for help, you have the capacity to help them, and you should as a person. And so he does that, but is he necessarily a good ruler slash king? One of the episodes that you and I just rewatched as a series being like, no matter what decision I make, I'm making someone unhappy. We can see that he's not really living up to the duties of king. He's not participating in the small council.

And I know we think they're all like, you know, they got smoke up their asses, but he's only engaged in the public parts of it where the people can love him. Because being crowned king and cheered for was the first time that he ever felt love. Like if he actually cared for the small folk, would he be assaulting them or watching the children fight each other in the fighting pits? Yeah, that's fair. I think that the fighting pits is interesting because I love to use the word interesting. And there's this discussion he has with Otto in that throne room where he's like, I don't know, dude, we can just give this one guy sheep. No one's going to know. How will they know? No one's going to know. He thinks no one's going to know because his family has never turned their eyes on him, of course, but they

scrutinized the fuck out of Rhaenyra. Every single small thing she did was in the public eye. And because Aegon wasn't the heir and his father didn't care about him, Aegon never lived in the public eye and he never got the double-edged sword of power of, yes, you have power, you are the heir, but everything you're gonna do is gonna be seen, and like, you see it with how Viserys and Daemon, they reunited after a war and after years of not seeing each other and had to reconcile peacefully in front of the court and in a party. Agin has lived his life in the shadows, again, betting on people like children's fighting pits. And I think for the most part, no one really knew. So of course, he thinks no one's going to know if he gives one dude

his sheep. It's kind of cute in a way like in an annoying he's an asshole kind of way. But like it is kind of it's naive it's very naive he's like no one's gonna know just give him the sheep yeah and i think it's nice that he thinks like oh yeah easy peasy this is what we'll do but i think you know ruling is balancing what's right on an individual level and then how do you do it at scale tom glencarney's like acting is a fantastic balance of i think i know what to say, but also I don't. And just that trepidation and just being like, fuck, I guess this is what we do now.

And yeah, it sucks to take people's sheep. But also at the same time, if you want to be the guy that stays in that chair, you need the sheep to feed your weapon and source of power that you have repeatedly said this episode. I don't know. Why is everyone so afraid? I'm just going to go take my dragon and Amon's gonna take his dragon we'll go like win it he

never learned we or us right he only ever learned me yeah he never learned the collective we what that means beyond the inner targaryen circle and like you said earlier it really connects back to winterfell and the wall and the idea of that sacrifice for the greater whole of people right that you know one in ten people is going to open that bag take that stone and go serve at the wall because that is what we found serves the collective we yeah he was never taught that he had to serve And I think he thought he was going to just live his life chilling and like wandering aimlessly, which honestly, he didn't seem like he was happy doing that either. It's going to be great to watch his character progression. And then. Yeah.

Something that struck me through, not just from his ruling, but also you have a pre-chat, guys, right? Like, Otto, what are you doing? They didn't, I know he's not interested in ruling, I understand that, but to put him on the throne? Like, I guess you look at Joffrey, right, or other boy kings, obviously you can't control them necessarily when they're of age, because's not really a boy anymore he just acts like it just the maturity level's not there yet inexperience through that court like otto and him didn't have a pre-chat allison didn't come to him with a pre-chat like look here's what you can and can't do i'm not trying to piss you off that's just this is what our funds look like no one's coming to him with the truth because they're using him as a puppet. Where in Dragonstone, even with the queen gone grieving, they are making plans. They have blockades going to stop the flow of supply into the city.

They're plotting more tactics against the greens. They have ships coming inbound full of sheeps, goats, and of course, Mizaria. That's another story. And then in King's Landing, the war council that's happening after hours, you have Kristen and Aemond, Tweedledee and Tweedledum, privately trying to craft anything while the council, quote unquote,

deliberates and slows the call to war, which is the better call, truly is not to maybe blow up the whole entire landscape with dragons, but Kristen and a controversial take controversial tag uh amen and kristen are trying to have a plan because they see that this is going to boil over and boil over it is about to after what we saw absolutely did love hugh the hammer uh intro rocks. That was a quick intro. Check that silver hair. There he is. And Agen told him that was the only one Otto didn't stop him from doing. Agen said, yes, your weapons are very important to me because, you know, they strike down dragons

that attack the city, so you will have your money. With everything that looks to be coming, that attack the city, so you will have your money. With everything that looks to be coming, do you feel that Aegon may accidentally double-cross Hugh the Hammer, and that's why Hugh the Hammer moves to Rhaenyra's side? I think there's that, but I also think you offer someone the chance at the power of gods. Are you going to roll that dice or not if you think that you have dragon seed? And maybe Hugh the Hammer will. i think that it doesn't take much and i think hue the hammer he's presented as this pretty earnest guy right in the in that chamber and i think that's another person whose arc is going to also like really really develop of like how do you have someone who like hard-working honest guy just trying to

make a living smithing becomes well i think i could be king everyone and becomes a total jackass it looks like he has a family um he's holding like a child in the trailer for the weeks ahead so i'm wondering if there's like a family arc there which is interesting like humanized knockoff robert barathe, why don't you? Because that's really the whole joke is he's Hugh the Hammer. He uses a hammer in battle and he has a drop of Targaryen blood. It's like, what if Robert got a dragon? That guy was a bad family man too.

Yeah, there's a lot of fun stuff. So interesting that's the character they're going to humanize, but... Robert did have a drop of Targaryen blood. Exactly, that was why I said it. Oh, yes, I it i got it i see it i see it i see the vision wow uh i don't know maybe i just assume that aegon is probably going to betray him on the money front because he seems like that kind of guy and king's landing you know broke bitches broke bitch just kidding they have a lot of the money in the books, so we'll see what happens. Did really like the Kristen-Amond stuff. I thought that was interesting.

Yeah. Kind of like an interesting, not his dad, but a dad figure in his life. A tutor, someone who's kind of raised him, taught him to fight. And it led to him uh defending Kristen obviously defending Allison to him as Amon was like I know what my mom is bisexual also Kristen was ready to put out that other kid's eye for him I guess now that I think about it so Kristen bullied those kids for a decade or so for him. He really did, actually. And again, as I said last season, Kristen, you had one job.

It was don't let the heirs to the throne get hurt. And you really failed at it. I mean, which heirs was his thought? Which heirs? True. He, you know, Kristen is kind of a repressed, angry person, right? Like he's got a lot of anger simmering under that idiot skin of his. And when you look at his arc from, you know, looking for glory in becoming a Kingsguard, looking to make a name for himself, get in the white book, do something to

help put House Cole on the map, you know, talking about his father's role in Blackhaven and him growing up and how, I mean, I think he says to Rhaenyra that he could have, you know, gone on and done something else and married a common-born woman, but he wanted the glory and the honor of being a Kingsguard and then kind of has that almost Jaime arc of becoming disillusioned with knighthood, finding out maybe the Kingsguard is disillusionment, which I would have loved to see a little bit more of that. But I guess just being in Viserys' household might have taught you that. And then his meeting of Rhaenyra and Alicent

and how any of that kind of translates to Aemon's personality, right? And that anger and rage that boils beneath not just his skin, but also Vhar's we see we see that translate through vagar when vagar goes chomp chomp on luke um not mentioning his disconnect and how long it took to get a dragon and how he felt looked at when we think of agan who feels so separate and is living in his father's shadow in some ways, and is trying to almost become a person in this episode. Amon, right? All of that repression and everything he did,

all of the philosophy and swords that he studied. The blade. The blade. Yeah, Kristen's really, I think, the older brother that he wanted to have in a lot of ways. And then also, I thinkin cole's character just got there a little earlier than when it hit the other characters in terms of his character was someone who is looking for meaning in his life like what do i do with my life and now all the other characters have been unmoored and they're starting to be like what what is my role in this life

you can i think really see that throughout throughout the cast and they're starting to be like what what is my role in this life you can i think really see that throughout throughout the cast and they're all doing amazing yeah showing it yeah fabian's doing an amazing job because i still really don't like kristen cole yeah yeah he is still very unlikable which i think again as you said great job because it seems like fabian might actually be pretty likable he's kind of adorable and charming like good for him person like as the actor who's not the person yeah yeah he's real um it's really refreshing grounding to remember these are actors playing fictional characters hmm i don't know sorry y'all sometimes people need to remind it be reminded i think about what happened to jack gleason so yeah not cool

yeah uh raniera is still present in the small council in king's landing in everyone's thoughts prayers titties uh allison i almost didn't catch this on first watch she asks my letters to raniera have there been any answer yeah was it i think gray this gray area who tweeted something like oh is this like the equivalent of being left on medieval red or something maybe it wasn't gray i don't know i think it was but i could be wrong. Someone tweeted it, and I thought that was so funny. Alicent is even reclaiming her sexuality in Rhaenyra's old chambers, which is great. There's a lot of great subtext just screaming and moaning there. Actually, they're not even screaming and moaning, which is... Repression.

Oh, Catholics, I say. actually they're not even screaming and moaning which is repression yeah oh catholics i say so there's a lot of fun behind the scenes stuff that we've learned along with as you said it being rainier's old chambers i would like to read you all this light-hearted interview snippet about olivia cook's merkin that she wore it's a pussy wig i'm not gonna fuck around i'm just gonna say the pussy wig she wore uh to kind of during the the fabian the scene they filmed together the intimate scene they fucking filmed and it's very light-hearted very fun before we start talking about alicent and kristin cole i like to lighten the mood a little you know yeah cook even scared the life out of him when they were filming frankel is embarrassed when i bring it up during our interview the opening scene between olivia and i in episode one when i'm under her dress, she was wearing, do you know what a merkin is? He says. So she was wearing a hairy ginger merkin that was genuinely quite shocking. It looked like she had

a sort of furry animal between her legs. I went down there and screamed and threw myself back and threw myself out from under her dress. Anyway, there's a photo. I wish I hadn't told that story. He covers his face with his hand i'm so annoyed that olivia told you to ask me that sorry fabian frankel for repeating that story now but it brought me joy personally so i'm gonna yeah i think it's nice that they are having fun on set as they film because obviously that was just done for pranks since we didn't see that and i don't think that that was something production told them to do yeah it seems like a very funny uh time had to and it's good to keep the mood light because that stuff could get

tense they're there for hours at a time like redoing the same takes just grinding over whoa grinding okay that was the last scene chloe not the first one wow sorry and more to come oh hey hopefully her uh let's get into it yeah well all right i'm in i'm in the alakol that's what the kids call it they call it alakol it's the ship name okay um just want to make sure you're in with it and so the alakol sex scenes is our topic of discussion overall i like it yeah i think for me it makes sense and i think we will discuss why i think i mean these are flawed people and lord knows people make mistakes when it comes to

sex but sometimes it's like you can just have the sex agreed like if you like sex and the person that you want to have sex with like sex and they want to have sex with you, maybe you should just do it because you want to have sex with each other and it's an intimate way of connecting your body. If you don't want to, then don't. Yeah, it doesn't even need to be intimate physically. It doesn't got to be intimate emotionally. And you look at someone like Allison

who has never been able to choose how to use her body uh she her body hasn't been hers since she was born right let alone since she was married to viserys at age 15 she's grieving the loss of this man like you mentioned his ghost looming over the story he was equal parts like her husband her captor her salvation her power her pain someone who gave her something that she loved so much the the things that even if they might be somewhat of an extension of her own power not this season her progeny right her children they also give her a lot of shame they make her hate herself and her body and who she is and what she gave birth to and what she has to do to bring them up in this society

and to stay alive and stay in power in this society. And then not mentioning her kind of having to sexualize her body to Larys, right? To purchase more power in this world and to stay in the game, to keep her skin in the Game of Thrones, so to speak. This is like the first pleasure she'd ever gotten to take. thrones so to speak this is like the first pleasure she'd ever gotten to take and it's presented very clearly kristen has his face in her vagina she is not deep throating his cock she is sitting in a chair and he has his face in her like that is the position the last scene is her riding him. Yes. Not him riding her. The last time we see Allison having sex, it's very much a scene where we focus on her dissociative nature as Viserys is on top of her. We see her just staring off into the distance, not in pleasure. These scenes are

very much for her pleasure. So I think that's really important and what i think is interesting is the punctuation by larry's the clubfoot larry's strong where this is her trying to take independence and the first escape she's had for her sexuality away from viserys and larry's and it's with her childhood crush i don't know if anyone's ever hooked up with like a teenage crush they had. It's usually disappointing. It was really disappointing. Yeah. I think I was also very disappointing for them too. Yeah, I get that. I've been there. Yeah. I had one that was great though and I'm like maybe this is that. I don't know. But it was good. We realized like that we were good friends. And now you know. Now you know you know we know i was technically invited to like

his wedding oh that's cool but it got canceled because of covid well that's not cool well you know well but larry's okay back to larry's and it's black sorry and not not my past or yours i mean there's that great shot where she is stopped by Larys, and he kind of threatens her and tells her when she asks, So what happened to all the people in the Red Keep that you were tasked with questioning? And he's like, Oh yeah, by the way, I had them all basically killed. They no longer breathe our air, and you have all new maids, thanks to me. After literally having her staff killed, he's basically telling her, you can't get rid of me that easily.

You can't have happiness. And we get the scene, of course, of her in the bathtub where she's scrubbing herself clean and sending the guards that he's hired away. I think all those things just frame the lack of power Allison has and where she wants to take pleasure and power where she can. The desperation, right? The Red Keep is a desperate, lonely place for her right now. She's sending messages to the woman that she loves from her childhood saying,

Save me, Rhaenyra, save me, you're my only hope. Sorry, I'm so sorry, my idiot son fucking murdered your also idiot son. She's probably saying, you're idiot bastard. And then crossing out bastard and writing son. Yeah. but her prayer for lucerys actually was really sweet but we'll come to that also the green dress theme during we light the way that plays when she shows up and she's like i choose hot coacher that's there's a remixed kind of version playing in the background while her and kristen are fucking so keep your ears peeled next time and listen to that. That's awesome. Or sorry when he's eating her out, I think. Yeah, I think the power structure is clear, the dynamic, and that this is what she wants and

she's desperately trying to keep power where she can. I think that's clear and I think that's why it works for me, especially after we go from her being his salvation in season one and stopping him from ending his own life and giving him quote unquote something to live for and then her pleading with him throughout the show for his love for her as his queen and that kind of dynamic and that kind of power between them i don't know i think it works for me and it's something that i believe last season i thought was happening if i remember i said i'm pretty sure i said do you think they're fucking you're like no and i'm like really because i think they might be i think this iteration of it really works for me because from i don't

perceive it necessarily as romantic i see them using each other in a way and i don't think like that that happens all right like she's grieving he's doesn't know what he's doing with his life and she's feeling as you said she's lonely she's like oh my god rainiera please like she's rainier is the only person that saw her as a person. And we saw that, like, she in the garden was telling Rainier, everyone treats me as the queen, and now she's not the queen. So who the fuck is she? Yeah. And when you're lonely, sometimes it doesn't matter who the other person is. It helps.

It helps if they're attractive in your childhood crush, but it doesn't really matter it's another body that's there and the pleasure the physical pleasure is something that is there that feels better than the emptiness and the pain yeah and i think that that is a very real and human emotion when you are under stress from trying to corral your dad and your son and the person from whom you derive power and was sleeping through sleeping next to all these years and who was your life like your companion every single day even if you didn't necessarily always want to be like them and that's who your identity beside you when that's gone yeah yeah that's better than feeling nothing anything is

you know i mean and in real life in fake game of thrones life any and it does it does that like guinevere lancelot but twisted kind of trope right like she's supposed to marry the prince king and lancelot is supposed to protect her and then they fall deeply in love and but like also not like it's a twisted fairy tale there is no happy endings in House of the Dragons or the Dance of the Dragons so yeah I mean he's gonna be sent away on the business trip soon and die someday and also like I know there are people discussing the hypocrisy of it. And at the same time, sure, a lot of those things that she felt were also when she was what? Like, before the time jump? Yeah, before she even married Viserys.

Yeah. And well, some of it was after, but like, Lord knows people's relationship with their religion and their own sexuality changes in a 20-year time span. I know that mine has. And, like, even if someone does strongly believe, like, in their religion, I'm gonna tell you all about a country called the Philippines, where a lot of people are very heavily Catholic. Or if they're not Catholic, they really love God and Jesus. And some people are, you know, very much stick to those and all those tenets and stuff. And some people, they believe it, it matters to them. But there's a lot of people there fucking out of wedlock. I would like to gesture to my father and my grandfather and that's

you got a lot about my family and like my life today in this episode so I'm just saying like religion's been around for a long time and you know what so is people fucking and I don't think it's gonna stop necessarily people fucking I might do some of that this week

oh nice nice yeah boy I'm leaving it in too um because people fuck yeah people fuck i mean like a lot of people shit on the fat pink mass sam chapter but that chapter is beautiful that chapter is about living and that's what george likes to write about that's like we just read second kind of loneliness yeah And like, the main character is not living. He's not living. And if you're not living, you're fucking dying. And that's not good, dude.

And men's lives have meaning. Yeah. Not their deaths. So you gotta live while you can, bro. L-I-V-I-N, as a philosopher, Michael McConaughey, would say. I also love what you're saying about Larryry's and and pointing out what he's done in the red keep honestly this is gonna sound bizarre like it actually kind of reminded me of when tyrian comes into power and like clash and is like i don't know i don't think these

people are loyal to me and starts like installing some spies but he turns lancel right into his own spy uh by blackmailing him and then also also we have him sending Janos Slant away. So I think that that kind of reminds me of that. Obviously not, I guess, as severe. But Larry's is coming into power. And, you know, even in the books, he's played as this, like, shadow on a wall. Very, very little finger-esque, which I think there's definitely some Littlefinger going

on here right that idea of like making Alicent complicit of these crimes with him and tying her to him for power like we talked about in season one but I love the idea of Tyrion because Larys really does get more powerful than Varys probably in my opinion in the story in a lot of ways he gets really close to a lot of the big power and then just goes a little too far as they all do and yeah and i think that's what we're gonna see with damon and you know they're they're the people who are fighting from the shadows they know how to use both spectacle and secrecy for power and i think we're seeing mazaria going to play a role like that too it sounded like

she said something like that in the in the coming up on this season of house of the dragon trailer and before we close out king's landing i do want to say i just think tylen lannister is great with kids oh my god i thought he was really nice to jaharius even though jaharius was being like kind of irritating about work like i thought he like treated it in a very nice engaged way which foreshadows him later serving Aegon III even though initially he was like I don't know I think we should kill him but he was just being practical it's funny you say that because I also saw kind of this tension of like obviously Aegon was playing with him a little bit with it right like what's the matter but also even though jaharis is four when jaharis took the ball he was upset about it because he's like that's my like my voice like you're taking my voice and then

i can't just take that out of your hands you're the air you're the air yeah it was a really interesting like little power play and how he responded to him as the heir that was interesting like it gives you kind of a context for how maybe people would respond to the heir in any generation that's true yeah but i also thought i don't know it was nice that he regarded jaharis with respect i think it's just nice when people treat children with respect and like they're people sometimes people don't that usually breeds better children i hear i don't know unless they get murdered in the next like section of the episode yeah that's true death does not seem like a good strategy for breeding children yeah you don't raise good children if they get killed so let's talk about that sorry we're not trying to make light we're just trying to keep a light and easy

way about us during the very sad section let's talk about helena and blooded cheese i'm really hopeful helena will have some a little you know. She, after this event in the book, Helena really doesn't have shit go on until she unfortunately takes her own life. I feel like they're going to come up with something else for her. Or I hope so, because it sounds like the way that they were talking about her in the behind the scenes, they felt that she was this really rich character.

So hopefully there's more going on there. And like, that she was this really rich character. So hopefully there's more going on there and like um yeah welcome to Girls Gone Canon. We have the best segues between sections and yeah I don't know where they're gonna take her character but I will say it was great to see her introduction juxtaposed with Aegon. Their their relationship doesn't feel like they are married. They feel like siblings who are like, I don't know, this is where this thing is. And, you know, at the end of it, they go, the mother knows which child is which because we see Agen enter the room and he goes to check one kid and he's like, whoops, wrong kid. He doesn't know which of his kids is his kid,

or like, is the son such son such air yeah i love that you called that out when we were watching too you're like oh he had no clue no clue that that was jahara and then he realizes it's the girl and he goes wait where was jaharis i wish to take him to court probably helps to name them names that are more dissimilar to one another. Yeah, dressing the twins almost exactly the same with the same hair. I mean, I guess that works for Aria and... What's her name? I mean, it didn't work out great for Cersei and Jaime, but... Haha.

When we open the first Helena scene, if you pay attention to the trailers, you'll see that Helena is sewing Jaehaerys' funeral shroud. Yes, I love that you caught that. I did not notice. That's so sad. Yeah, you can see it kind of on the funeral procession clips from, I think, like the first teaser, not technically a trailer. But very sad. Interested to see the whole spectacle next episode for that funeral

and what happens in the city. We both watched the House the Dragon Made and watched the after episode Little Ditties as well, and they go into it a little further, but Helena is an artist and has painted her dreams upon her walls. Lots of fun stuff to see there. I even think I saw an eyeball and a dragon by it which to me sounds like god's eye aka rip damon and amand and vagar and vagar and caraxis caraxis

noodle boy another parallel that i liked between some of these half-siblings is Helena and Rhaenyra being painted as quietly in anguish. Silent, devastated, in shock, dissociative at the loss of their children in this episode. There is something great in Variety from Fia Saban who plays Helena and she said, There's something about the fact she can't escape the fact she said, yes, that one. And it weighs on her so much. But I also think she really felt that she had no option because I think the stakes are that high. The highest stakes in her existence. When he says to her, you tell me the right one, or I'm going to do terrible things to your children. She believes him. She's like, I can't mess this up. I have to be honest. And I think it's actually more heartbreaking that she's honest. I thought that

was great. I loved the way she played, especially because Helena's character seems, you know, just a little quieter. A lot of people read her as neurodivergent, and I think it could fit. But you look at her reactions to violence previously, right? Like when Vaman's head is cut off or when, uh, Maylee's comes through the floor. I think her reaction fit. Her eyes were full of tears and she was in dissociative horror. The first idea was flight, flight, get my child, other child that I can save out of here and go the quickest, safest place I can find. And in case you were feeling, um, like, feeling disgusted about the scene, uh, if you listen carefully, you can hear baby Jaehaerys beneath the glove pleading for his mom to help him. And I didn't hear it the first time I watched, I heard it the

second time I watched, and I wanted to pu puke it was so horribly sad and it's yeah i'm glad they did not do further on screen because it was it was pretty anxious the dog was worse maybe in some ways but the kid was bad too yeah i hate well because the dog one was depicted and i guess the child one was left up to the imagination. It was an interesting choice to follow Helena as she leaves and that and have the audience experience the horror through her being like, oh my god. And just leaving it with the sounds. Yeah, I don't know.

I think that it was a well done enough scene do i think it's as shocking as in the book no i don't know if it's like supposed to be or not i guess on one hand i do think that that is one of the things that george loves to do right like he loves to shock with the horror of how grisly something is. And this isn't, like, quite that, but... It's okay. Yeah, that's fair. And I think, too, it's... He's an edgelord.

He's an edgelord. I read Meat House Man. I will hear. No edgelord shame on Meat House Man. That story rocks. And I'll say it. More than just the first chapter. Yeah, fuck you.

Join the Patreon, patreon.com slash girlsgonecanon, and check out our Meat House Man episode where you can hear the lore on whether or not I actually finished it. It's actually a good episode. It's a fucking great episode. Someday, someday we might release that one. Blood and cheese in the books. Like, I'm going to be real with you. episode someday someday we might release that one blood and cheese in the books like i'm gonna be real with you a lot of people are comparing it to like not being red wedding enough right that's

their expectation or the the precedent that's been set and you gotta lower that expectation because blood and cheese isn't the red wedding it's solid the red wedding is like an end of season episode an event right that spurs that like last 10th episode to close it all out before the next season. And it talks about kind of that framework of how the following seasons and story will now operate. Blood and Cheese in the Books is eight paragraphs. I counted it last night.

It is like one giant run on passage. It's eight paragraphs. It is foreshadowed. Not really. It is basically just like an event that happens in the war that's showing everyone's out for blood. And the Red Wedding had two books of foreshadowing. Yeah. It's not the same. You cannot compare them as the same. And the Red Wedding being something that closes the season, episode, and event, is the opposite of this, which is setting off a season. It's laying the groundwork for the vengeance, fire, and blood throughout the season.

And when you think about Rhaenyra's end and how terrible it is, it's a terrible death, right? Like, that is not, I don't want to go by dragon like that. Yeah. It's a terrible ending to all the hardship, all the loss. You brought up just some of her losses, and there's more to come. So it's going to get worse before it gets sadder. And I don't know, you look at that end, it's like there's a lot of grief and horror to come.

You don't need to have it all go off. We can have a microdose right now. Especially then, the other thing that I'm feeling like we all collectively forget is how TV is made. It's not real. What? What? It's filmed. They use effects both practical and, you know, visual uh child actor laws exist you can't just murder

children and threaten to rape them on a screen anymore shit sorry sorry did they did they used to allow that i mean i'm not explicitly but like let's just look back at children like you know did judy garland have a good life? That's true. Shirley Temple. I was just going to say, animal crackers in your soup, bitch. Not great. The glove, actually, going over Jaehaerys' mouth when he starts screaming horribly and it's sad for his mother,

that's actually his real-life father, the kid actor, the child actor, because they didn't want to traumat you know, traumatize him for the rest of his life. And he trusts his dad. Because again, these are real children that they use. So something about how they film with child actors, it's very compartmentalized. You're going to have several different shots, several different areas of the set. You're going to have shots without the child that are pasted together, and then shots with the child. Like, stunt actors, stunt violence, you will not see a real child be heard on set. You will not see a child. Whether they can be trained for a stunt or not, they will make it like a several shot piece. That's just how it works. Filming wouldn't be done in order often,

too. You might film that days before you film with the kid. It usually is just film with parts and children can't see the full script. And they have to have a legal guardian parent or chaperone on set. And the cast and crew have to be briefed on how to act with that child on set every time they film. So production companies are held fully responsible for these children's well-being. There are some ways you can do gratuitous violence against children but it's great that they shied away from it in some aspects and didn't want to go there in some aspects i think that's fine yeah i think people wanted the the choice and now that

i think about it what it's comparable to is actually gran being thrown out a window there you go. Because it sets up the whole story. And that one was a little more shocking because you had the twincess thing. Sorry, not to use that term, but incest isn't shocking anymore in this show. That's the show.

It is the show. And I will say regarding child actors, please watch the rehearsal by nathan fielder and that's that's my take on that yeah i liked it i think it's fine i think as far as um child murders go they did a good job you know and i do want to come back to kind of that idea that we talked about earlier of Aegon saying the small folk will be the backbone of the war to Hugh the Hammer and having it be small folk who do murder his son. And I actually kind of like that it becomes a mistake that Daemon tells them,

kill Aemond, and then he kind of winks at the camera and he's like, or whoever you can find. He doesn't say it, but he says it. I mean, that was the implication. It was definitely inferred that he was like, if you can't find Amon, figure it out. Kill another one. Yeah, I think it felt like what they did with Damon in season one, where they would cut away and leave it ambiguous. Like, did he tell him to do this terrible thing?

And I think it's true that they didn't show it on screen. So it would be shocking, more shocking when they killed the kid in, in that scene. But I think it was supposed to be like another thing where you infer based on the patterns from season one that Damon told them to do this terrible thing.'all yeah yeah it's not his first rodeo doing this with his murder hood on and it's really not he's into that you know he drop a bag of coins someone kills someone or runs away and why would the rat catcher care about who he's killing or really care to figure it out?

Half of the reward is probably enough to change his life and not change Damon's, right? And that meta downside of fire and blood being an outline necessarily of what happened in this time vaguely is there's really no suspension of belief or disbelief about events. None of us will ever agree with, oh, it was adapted this way or that way. I think that the semantics shouldn't matter. It's the emotion behind it. So I think the Daemon Misaria, Kang's Landing stuff had a little bit of the season four through seven, like time traveling across the land suddenly, and now he's in a place. Whatever. It works. Dragonstone's close.

And we don't really have time with eight episodes. I think that's another bit that we need to really remember that the studio said you get eight episodes, so eight episodes Hot D did. I don't know if the studio said it, but yeah. The execs sure said it, it sounds like. They didn't say ten? I think they love

dragging things out. Oh my god. I that uh once you suspend that kind of disbelief about the outline and what needs to happen it works it works i did think that the use of passages could have been cooler but i know it's not easy to film in them and they were using only that natural torch light as much as they could maybe a little bit of lighting which it looks amazing it really does look good so yeah i think they did a great job like filming it i agree with some people's takes like it could have been fun to have it be a little bit from helena's like point of view of the shock of someone coming in like along with going through the the search for Amon and it did give us that great scene of like this is what Agen's doing uh but I feel ambivalent like I do agree that even though they say that this is still

very deeply affecting for Helena it a big part of the horror of that scene was forcing her to make a choice in the books so whatever though she still had jews i mean she could have pointed at the other one at jahara which i also will add i wonder what that implies for the future canon it makes me and this is just tinfoil and i'm based i mean really it's just speculation what i'm about to say they're all gonna die yeah i mean they're all gonna die but when you think about j Jahara's death and how it might have been peak, it might have been Larry's paying people. It could have been a couple of things. It might not have been Jahara taking her own life.

And perhaps Helena didn't see her death. Perhaps Helena thought she'd live, you know? I mean, it might not have been, oh, just take the air and kill him. Like, maybe there is something to it. I don't know. We don't get Maelor being torn apart. Exactly. That was my other thought, was Maelor.

Yeah. He's not there, which I wondered, as you, me, and I think Glydas chatted about on Unleash the D, I figured he'd get the cut. There's no time for him this season. I guess it doesn't really matter. It's just, what, a scene of, like, the baby being torn apart?

Yeah. Rickard Thorne was cast, so that's interesting. Huh. And, look, what everyone really wanted this to be was the dragon pit. You're looking for the dragon pit. The dragon pit is the Red Wedding. Yeah. Yeah.

Okay, I see that. That's true. Yeah. This was, like, we're coming up on black water you know we're not we're not even at red wedding level yet yeah speaking of dragons let's talk about dragonstone and driftmark i mean we got dragons also in king's landing but we also got dragons at home in dragonstone oh dragonstone and Yes, we are heroes. Our heroes of the story. Which is crazy because we just talked for like ample amount about, you know, the people that have usurped the throne.

Yeah, because they're dramatic. They're messy. We have the line. The one line Rhaenyra has because Emma Darcy gives it their all in all of this just nonverbal acting amazing job, but goes, I want amen. I don't know if anyone even knows this. I want candy. If you're not a millennial.

I mean, it's a classic song. It's been around for a very long time. I don't know what the people know. Not just Aaron Carter's version is what I'm saying. Yeah, time. I don't know what the people know. Not just Aaron Carter's version is what I'm saying. Yeah, but I still don't know what the people know. Okay, well, hopefully you know the song I Want Candy, I really hope. But I want Amon. Targaryen.

Targaryen. I want Amon Targaryen. What a great first line after so far into the episode. And really, I think it's going to do a lot to build for the ultimate showdown between damon and amand you know that line i can now see especially seeing the shape of the weeks ahead that damon and raniera are going to fight about the murder of jaharis in some way or form and what it does to her reign yeah uh damon is gonna go out for reneara and do that one final thing probably yeah and he's like yeah who's gonna find out everyone right it's it's what otto was warning

about and it's all a game of pr you know and reneara knows that she knows that that was the whole lesson damon taught her when he took her out that night and was like watch these puppets or not puppets. It was a show, not a puppet show. Sorry, confusing with Dunkin' Egg. And yeah, and that's her one line, just like how Daenerys' was, shall we get started in that one season? Yes, it is the beginning, maybe, of Rhaenyra. Shall we begin?

Shall we begin? Yeah, I don't know. Fake fangirl. Wow, fake Danny fangirl. Wow, fake Danny fangirl. Devastating funeral, devastating reunions all around. We see that Corliss has gotten a sword or a dagger forged for Luke. It looks like a little shell with a pearl in it. Very sad for the dead lord or dead heir to Driftmark crying in the club.

And at the funeral, Jace and Joff throw in the seahorse toy that Corlys gave Luke. Yeah. It's devastating. Yeah, it really makes you feel the absence of him. And I love that Corlys love that kid. And that kid loved Corlys. There feel the absence of him and i love that corleys love that kid and that kid loved corleys there is the absence right because now you have joffrey and he's a baby and i'm like shit where's that other little one the middle one where's the middle sized one oh where'd that little fucker go i still remember like the little tiktok behind the

scene tiktoks of the children when before that time skip like little amand and little luke like just i don't know they were like threading or something the the fortnight dance the children love oh no oh no it was cute i liked uh rainey's telling damon off the tension between them that opening scene her putting him in his place several times in that conversation about grieving a loved child when you've lost one or two, if you will, or two. True. To people. And also that great characterization and understanding of dragons who need to eat.

Dragons who can't just patrol for a hundred miles. Humans who can't either. And also that Daemon isn't her king he's king consort exactly and she can stand up to him because a first of all they're equals they are cousins i don't know if you all remember she would say cousin to viserys when he would like visit driftmark you couldn't see but I had my arms open because that's what Rhaenys did and I mean what she's not impressed she's like whatever Daemon sure you were the air ones I was the fucking air ones anyone can be air no I'm joking she's not like anyone can be air but like I mean kind of it doesn't mean anything they They're equals. And I will say I love when we're talking about the design of

things, I love the imagination that went into designing this like dragon landing pad in Dragonstone. I don't know, maybe we saw it in the first season, but I really appreciate it now. Whatever. And also that she's the one patrolling this blockade right now, not just as a Targaryen, but because it is the Valyrian's fleet. So that is sort of like this dual role that she has to hold up. Yeah, there's a lot of pride as a Targaryen and also for House Valyrian, and it really puts a bigger weight on her shoulders even though she doesn't have the crown. Yes. As a princess of the crown, she has just as much to live up to.

And as a woman. Absolutely. As a woman. Also, I mean, it just seems tiring. Imagine being on horseback that long, probably even more so as a dragon. And as you said, right? They can't just keep going. Planes gotta recharge. You gotta put fuel.

They're probably pretty amazing. She could probably do the breaking the watermelon with the thighs. Anyways. Someone go see what a merkin's like. No, I'm joking. Oh my god. Speaking of very strong people. Wait, no.

Wrong bastards. Wrong bastards. Speaking of Alan and Adam, we got our first hint at Adam from meeting Alan. He's a newcomer to the show and did a great job. I loved his kind of quiet, strong presence. Stop saying strong. I'm sorry. Those quiet, strong presence. Stop saying strong. I'm sorry. Those were the other kids.

The other heirs. I loved his quiet and bold presence that he brought to the screen. He was just like a very striking figure with how he stood against Corlys. Who's becoming a bit weathered from time and from his injuries. And I kind of love that very sad story between them that like, he's not necessarily acknowledged to the audience as Corliss's bastard, and he won't really probably get to live as Corliss's bastard. He will beenor's bastard. Believable. They're like the same age or is he older? I guess

who knows. Who knows. And then that he's the one that pulled Corlys out and saved his life. That time jump, you know, it's something to like backfill in this time jump for Corlys who we didn't get to see the full time jump of. We didn't get to see his adventures. It kind of gives us a quick detour to be able to kind of relive that through his bastards.

Yeah, maybe the age difference is large enough. I'm remembering when Laenor did disappear. That was a couple time skips ago. There were a lot of years in that time skip. Yeah, I think they did a great job with that they have a very muted acting between them but there's a lot of emotion i honestly you gotta hand it to actors and hustle no you do they're so good like there's a lot of acting there that is done just through the body through the tonality through the relation the chemistry between the actors and you can see it here and it establishes this strained relationship right like as you know i love that they also have corley's walking where you can see like you know this is the toll the war took on him like now he he is also a disabled character

as well and he is going to take a big political role but the strained relationship he has with his i mean these are also his sons they're like yeah whatever like it was my duty he's putting the separation because corley's has been absent and negligent it seems and i think it's a great contrast to ned's relationship to john um because ned was like yeah you'll be in my house. I'm going to treat you just like my kids. Like there was nothing versus again, like Robert's distance from his own bastards. And also while they weren't bastards, a distant relationship,

a series had with his own children slash sons. And we're seeing like that tension of the distance children feel from their parents in this storyline. Hell even Jamie. Right. I think of that as like a very strained, like, I'm not allowed to parent you. Yeah, that's a good one. Harwin probably had a few nods at that in some aspects in the deleted scenes we never saw that maybe don't exist.

Yeah, yeah, it was probably there. I think like, Rha rainiera didn't seem like she was keeping them apart too much but also you gotta you gotta keep a healthy distance but not too i don't know it's difficult it's a difficult dance yeah dance get away from me delicate god she can't even get away with me or from me my rapid whoa is that the show? Oh my god. Interesting. Speaking of daddies with issues. With their own issues. Damon.

Lashing out at everyone this episode. Blaming them all. Saying if you had done X. We would have X. And Mizaria this. And Rainice. That. Hate it. Hate saying and Rhaenys that. Hate it. Hate saying that.

Rhaenys that. Because he knows slash feels that he failed. He's frustrated. He's lashing out. He's angry. He wants to do things. It's not going to turn out good, it seems. He's also mourning the brother that he really loved he

really loved the series let's let's be real and i think it's great that you're seeing the seeing a lot of different stages of grief right like you've reynier looking for proof and even reynie's giving voice to that idea of denial being like i didn't believe until later on and then you have uh rainera going into anger and here you have damon who's going through a bargaining phase right that's lashing out if you had done this then this wouldn't have happened that's bargaining in the stages of grief so he's like i'm really mad everyone failed so what if we failed even harder by killing kids? Anything to make you, well, like you said earlier,

anything to make you feel alive, like Alicent, right? I'm not saying like killing children should make you feel alive, but for him, it's a son for a son. It's any sort of currency to make it worth that Luke died. Nothing could be worth it that Luke died. Nothing could be worth it that Viserys died. But if he could get, if Daemon could just get a good enough strike in, it would make him feel better. It would make that emptiness, that hollowness, that pain he's feeling go away. Because the pain is happening as all of these things are out of his control, and which they

call out, right? But when you can do something and you can control one little thing, it gives you the false feeling of, yeah, we got this. I'm back in control. I have power once more. We're so back. We are so back. So is Mazaria. Mazaria is so back. I don't know how I feel about the plot so far, but you know,

it was a hefty, that episode had to lift a lot. It's a first episode. It has to reintroduce us to Westeros quickly, move us in, kill some kids. It had a lot to get done. Kill some kids. Yeah. Yeah. I think Misaria should be playing a bigger role this season because that's what the book told me, but I don't really know. And it seems so, especially if she gets introduced this first season and she shows up in the trailer a little. I will say I think that her accent is better. I did find it a little jarring last season. And I think that they've done a good job of doing so by making the cadence, like how she elongates, like words and such, less drawn out, less exaggerated. So it feels more natural. And there's an interesting aspect to Damon treating her like shit in this episode.

Okay. And that interesting aspect is in this episode. Okay. And that interesting aspect is, in the book, she begins to whisper into Rhaenyra's ear after her heightened grief. Yeah. And it seems that the things that she whispers in Rhaenyra's ear maybe aren't always the best things to do.

And I'm pretty sure that Rhaenyra is going to end up speaking with her a little bit this season, and if Daemon played around, bargained with her life, and was cruel to her for the last time, maybe, after seeing what Misaria was capable of last season, I would say she will be a player to be maybe feared or maybe looked at in just apprehension

as we wait to see the different people die and Rhaenyra also lash out. Yeah, I mean, I don't think raniera and damon's relationship is in a healthy place right now apparently neither is damon's with mazaria and i think that's bad it it was scary right the way that he slammed down on the table and got in her face like this is scary and it reminds you of the way that he grasped reynira by the neck and the last season or killed the guy that brought the message to the stepstone oh yeah that that that did happen or murdered his wife who made fun of his cock that's also true so yeah you're getting reinforcement

of these things in his character and i mean what if it's like miseria and renera this is also a real thing that happens ex-girlfriends bonding over an ex um you know things like that oh i'd love to bond over an ex i also yeah if you're out there and you dated, beep, beep. Let's talk about the legend of Korra and how that ended. Because I'm just, no. It's not possible. Anyways. I don't know if anyone is, like, at all, like, thinking about that.

That was a joke. But is it a joke? I don't know. I'm not going to continue it. We'll see where the season takes us, though. Just like Mazariaaria we're back you know i think we're gonna be here every week discussing this i was gonna call the show this shit and that's not nice i think we're gonna be here every week discussing this and i really want to see how the small folk and misaria and i mean if they orchestrate it well enough here you can build it all up to the dragon pit and it will be yeah i mean it'll go down in history the history the real one not just

archmaester gildane that's real yeah right no like by who writes history now in real life the wikipedia i'm just kidding uh i think it could go i mean that could be a really epic god i hate the word right like we're all over epic but it could be epic it could be epic yeah she is anti-killing kids so i i am looking forward to the journey that the season takes us on i've been waiting for a while, and I fucking loved season one. And it was a strong start. Yeah, strong first episode. Strong.

Strong. Did a lot of heavy lifting, for sure. And I expect that the next seven will go much faster than we think they will, so cheers. Everyone enjoy the season. I guess, Eliana, do you want to tell them where they can find us on the internet yeah we told you a little bit up top but just as a reminder you can find us on twitter and send us an email at girls gone canon that's c-a-n-o-n at gmail.com girls gone canon on twitter i mean if you want to listen to us like we're probably pretty much A-N-O-N at gmail.com. Girls Gone Candid on Twitter.

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