Girls Gone Canon Cast - House of the Dragon: Unleash the D E2 Ft. Arah of Direwolf City/Preposterous AF

Episode Date: June 24, 2022

when Eliana's away, Chloe will play. and she is playing with the hottest of Ds. DRAGONS that is. Join us for a VERY EXTREMELY CASUAL conversation to prime you for HOUSE OF THE DRAGON's release in August. Arah & Chloe discuss costuming, locations, licensed merch, and our greatest wishes and dreams for HOTD.  We'll be back in July with our A SONG OF ICE & FIRE prologues when Eliana returns to us. *SPOILERS: FIRE & BLOOD, PRINCESS & THE QUEEN, ROGUE PRINCE, HOUSE OF THE DRAGON, ETC, ETC   https://twitter.com/ieatzebra https://preposterousaf.podbean.com/ https://www.youtube.com/c/ieatzebraarah https://www.youtube.com/c/GrayArea Join us at our Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/girlsgonecanon   Intro music - Modern Jazz Samba by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/4063-modern-jazz-samba License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license

Hello and welcome to Girls Gone Canon or Girl Gone Canon. girl gone canon sans one of the girls but uh with another girl i'm one of your hosts chloe and we're back with unleash the d our primer series for house of the dragon the hottest of d's featuring my good friend ara hey everybody i'm excited to be here i'm finally at chloe's house they let me in they're welcome to welcomed me. I feel like at home. Laura and I were together at her house, you know, doing Euphoria streams. And by at her house, I mean she sent me a link and said, log on and do the stream, bitch. And tonight I sent her the link and said, log on and record, bitch. Yes.

And now we're here. Finally. Come on in. Get comfy. You know, we've got drinks. We've got hot D's. uh hot d's wait wait wait wait wait wait if you don't know ara you should you absolutely should as i mentioned ara had me on for euphoria season two which was a wild roller coaster of a ride she's had us on with all of

dire wolf city before uh for some very fun live streams about actually about fire and blood about hot, hot D and also as a podcast called preposterous AF. Yes, we are. Don't worry guys. We are coming back. We are coming back. I know you guys have been asking for us.

Don't worry. It's coming soon. I don't have a date. I wish I had a date. Just be on the lookout. But if you follow me on like the socials and stuff at IET Brown, like everything, you'll see the announcements when they're made. Yeah. The last episode I think I listened to, right? It was back in February. You guys did an episode on the doll collector, right? The spoon lady. Yes. Anatoly. I always call him Anatoly Mouskovitz, like Fievel, and that's not his last name.

It's like Moskovin. His first name is Anatoly. I should have had this ready to go, but it's not Mouskovitz, guys. But you can learn more. He collected dolls, right? Is that? If by dolls you mean humans and like dolls at the same time then yes it was a very disturbing case that mandy decided to give me nightmares of so

i don't do a lot of the true crime stuff my mom used to love it when i was a kid like i remember watching those scary ass you know documentaries that go on for 10 episodes telling you well who did it who did it and finally you get there and you're like of course it was the domestic abusing husband that murdered her in the end that we watched for 10 episodes unraveled us or you know crazier shit you know colonel mustard in the dining room with the candlestick like we dive into it I really know how to blow it out for 10 episodes though and you guys do it a lot quicker which I like yeah usually like our episodes like hour hour and a half give or take but yeah you guys

can check out our previous episodes on wherever you get your podcasts at Preposterous AF. Yes, we will have some links below in the intro. And truly, I'm excited for the return of Dire Wolf City this summer because it is the summer for dragons. You might have to change your name to Dragon... No, that doesn't work.

Dragon City? I don't know. All the merch could stay the same, like DC. Yeah. Just cross the W out, you doesn't work. Dragon City? I don't know. I mean, all the merch could stay the same, you know, like DC. Yeah. Just cross the W out, you know? We'll workshop it. We'll workshop it. Dragon City? I don't know.

Well, we're big fans of Craig and Stark over there, so we might have to keep our dire wolves like blasted for everyone to see. Pipe for the hour of the wolf when he shows it up at the end. I think we're going to get him in the front, though. I definitely think we're going to get him in season one. Not like a large role, but like very minor.

Very minor. Maybe an episode or two. Quick blinking, you miss it. Just a name drop, maybe. Because we did see in the trailer we got his father. Yeah, and we are going to go to Winterfell maybe. Maybe not this season. maybe because we did see in the trailer, we got his father. Yeah. And we are going to go to Winterfell. Maybe,

maybe not this season. Maybe that will be season two that we go North and a little, maybe secret marriage happens there. But I think we might even see him. I think there's going to be a tourney or something in season one. We've seen some production shots out there of that. So maybe there too. Maybe we'll see him there.

A Starket attorney. Ooh. I haven't seen that one before. I guess Sarah Snow does feel like the repeat, right? Of a little like Rhaegar Leona action for Sarah Snow and Jace. Jace, right? It's Jacaerys? Yeah.

I was trying to like put them in order in my mind. I'm like, I know it's not joffrey because he's the baby and i'm like luke is definitely i think the second one yup oh but jace yup the prince of dragonstone i actually am very excited to see see another take on winterfell right like see another version with what ryan condell's vision is and everyone that's working with him on it and i'm interested to see if sarah snow actually even gets adapted because gildane and fire and blood straight up dismisses the tale and questions whether sarah ever even existed so i find that interesting like what if we what are we going to see if we go to

winterfell if it's not that yeah that'd be a really good take on it and like oh are we going to see the clutch of eggs that were possibly hidden down there i'm i guess my biggest thing with fire and blood that i'm excited to see not fire but i'm sorry house with dragon i'm excited to see is which perspectives in fire and blood were the most accurate yeah what do you think is gonna get mushroom canonized mushroom i mean yeah mushroom for sure we were talking about how uh i mean the big one i think is gonna happen is we're gonna learn viserys actually burned harrenhal down and lit it up because of the strongs i think it was him that did it i believe mushrooms perspective on that but then you have stuff like sarah snow um what what is your big what canon

moment are you looking forward to something that we don't really know the answer to i was gonna say the you kind of got me on that harrenhal one because that's kind of one of them is like who's responsible but it's gonna be obviously like further down the line in the show is who actually killed agon like how did he really die because I like I have thoughts I think I definitely think he was poisoned but it's like who poisoned him because there's so many contenders for it yeah that's very true like I mean he didn't have a lot of friends that's gonna be like a big-ass murder mystery yeah yeah he didn't have a lot of friends, especially when he died. At the end of the war, he's doing not shit.

All he's doing is like fucking off and thinking about how he might marry Lady Cassandra Baratheon. Then it all kind of goes to shit. He's also in a lot of pain, right? Yeah. Because he was pretty badly injured. And he's like a super like drugged up on like milk of the poppy and he's like drinking a lot and he's like crazy as shit so that kind of doesn't help much i think it was the metal the metal just got into his bloodstream a little bit maybe like

lead poisoning or something like that like maybe i don't know i mean there is kind of an irony that like he was right out of his bed to become the king right for a rule he really didn't give a shit about in either direction they all wanted him to rule right like they all pull all these strings just to get him to be king just to kill him in the end yeah like. Like, that is the most... And he didn't even want it. Like, for real, I didn't want it. He didn't even want it. I don't want it. Yeah, he didn't want it, dude, at all. If I was in his position, you'd have to.

You know, like, you would have to be like, yeah, you're right. She will probably murder my whole family if I don't do something, I guess. I guess that's something, right? Like, if I kill me, if I, you know, kneel or not, I can understand being a little fearful for your life there but they went through like hoops and leaps and bounds and like you know shut door meetings and lies and corpses laying out for a week yeah yeah oppress the court from going anywhere like total lockdown just to make him. And just for someone of his own staff in the end to just- Do him in.

Yeah. Off. Yeah. That's when I- Just for someone to be like, men ain't shit. Exactly. I can't wait to see who does it. Who would it be?

So at the time- That's the thing. I don't know. There's so many people it could be that I couldn't even pinpoint who my top suspect would be. It's because everybody doesn't like him except the only person I know who wasn't was a Craig and Stark because he was very offended by it but everybody else is on my list I I can't rule anyone out it was probably clubfoot let's be real most likely I could I in my mind it gives me like um epilogue with Kevin Lannister and Varys.

When he's just like sitting there telling them his evil plan as he's like laying there dying. It's giving me that vibes. That is perfect. And even with that, it kind of makes me think of that same camp. It makes me think about Varys and Illyrio and Aegon Blackfyre right now. Or Aegon VI 6 we should say right Agen from the main series like Kevin is killed and being told about how Agen is really the true

motherfucker in Westeros and Agen 2 is being killed being told aha your life was nothing but being a pawn after all enjoy that shit that would be really a great yeah one of I mean one of the 22 men did it right Enjoy that shit. Mwahaha. That would be really a great... Yeah. One of... I mean, one of the 22 men did it, right?

Somebody. Which is... That's a lot of stuff. You're gonna have to have, like, a board with just strings on it. You know, it almost does make me wonder if Corliss did do it. Because Corliss was the only one pardoned, right? Yeah. Well, obviously.

You can't just fucking kill Corliss Valerian. He's a legend. Exactly. But he was pardoned. And it does make me me think what if he did it i would and it was really a giant thank you like thanks i if i were him i would have did it because it's the minutes like essentially responsible literally responsible for your wife's death for the death of like everybody in your family well that too like the kids like well i should take that back lanor and Laena died before

shit, like, started hitting the fan. Even though I'm really... Yeah, natural causes. Yeah. Well, Laena, we know that that one's a good, but, like, Laenor, I'm a thousand percent positive Damon had Laenor killed. I'm, like, I think that they

might have, like, did it together. I was like, honestly, Rainier might be, like, responsible too. together. I was like, honestly, Rhaenyra might be responsible too. Actually, mystery I want to solve very early on is the truth of Laenor's death because I believe it was the two of them together in Cahoots. Yeah.

It would be interesting if it's not them and if it was actually someone else trying to conspire for Daemon to get closer. That could be something too, but I do think it was Daemon. I don't know if it would have someone else trying to conspire for Damon to get closer that could be something too but I do think it was Damon I don't know if it would have been with Rhaenyra but it does kind of feel that way

especially because they're basically fucking on their dead lovers slash husband wife's coffins within six months of the death they're like well we're married it's a little fast for my taste but you know go off king and queen go off uh it does make me feel gross i hope we get to see lena and ronira's relationship

because like if we don't what's the point that makes me just think okay so maybe none of it matters but i just hope we get like a nice friendship between them yeah definitely and it looks like um i saw a photo earlier i want to say it was today and they showed a picture of like some of the younger actor actors i don't know i said that way i saw that one and one of them was a younger lena yeah it seems there might be three total actors for lena yeah which is kind of crazy right and i mean you've gotten three hairstyles for matt smith to kind of be able to judge the timeline oh my god long hair is young mid hair

is older short hair is middle after stepstones so my brain is exploded when you said the there there have been three yeah three heads we're definitely getting our council one-off one flashback we're getting it you see my face i'm like we're getting it we're getting it um be so happy i love the idea of all these flashbacks that we're getting i'm a sucker for a good flashback that doesn't mean they're gonna be good yeah. Yeah. I'm a sucker for good flashbacks. Because, like, figure in Game of Thrones, we had essentially just, like, well, two and a half,

well, no, three. Season four. We had one in season four from Bran where he sees King's Landing. He sees, like, the weird woodiness. We see the Cersei flashback.

And then season five. And then I was thinking of the Tower of Joy, so I kind of gave it a 2.5 because we see it, like, once and then we see the cersei flashback and then um i was thinking of um the tower of joy so i kind of gave it a 2.5 because we see it like once and then we see it like continued later but they didn't utilize a lot of flashbacks well and so what was it i think it's in the james hibbard book but yeah there's like a line where they talk about how they don't want to use those flashbacks. I respect that to an extent. I will say I do respect it because it is like, you don't want to lean on that as a

storytelling device. However, it's also like when you're that late in the semester and your report card's gonna come out, honey, you want to have a grade in general. You know what I mean? Like, it's one thing not to lean on it as a device, you can't really lean on most of that show so yeah yeah i'm like and with this one where so much of the story depends on events that happened in the past it's like you kind of have to go back a bit yeah it's very rich it's a dense story i mean it's even like reading the book is kind of a lot oh yeah right here it is here's this from the fire cannot kill a dragon book this is from chapter one david benioff george created a world so rich you're coming into the story 95 of the way into it so much happened in the past like the targaryen invasion of westeros and you need to understand that in order for the

current story to make sense books have a more elegant way of putting backstory in. On telephone, on telephone, on television, you can either do a flashback or boring exposition. So one of George's first questions to us was how are you going to let the audience know all this stuff that's so crucial? I don't remember what our answer was. We probably came up with some bullshit. Stares into camera. Literally. But I think that's interesting that our answer was we probably came up with some bullshit stares into camera um literally but i think that's interesting that like flat those are the two ways and they said no we can't do that we cannot choose a flashback like originally in the very first one they had a flashback of

ned's father and brother being killed by the mad king right so they did have flashbacks and they cut them yeah oh there was the one about the children of the forest too oh yeah with the um i forgot about that one give them three give them three they have a couple give them three flashbacks god they had a couple uh so it's interesting that they really did think about doing flashbacks i imagine that the the fuck fest that that pilot episode was i imagine that dissuaded them from doing too many flashbacks and they really steered from it. But I wish it hadn't.

I really wish it hadn't because I think a couple of well-placed flashbacks, and not too many, they did a decent job even though I hate most of their dialogue. I think they suck at dialogue. Like if you just take the dialogue out of a scene and leave the emotion, they were great. But the dialogue always ruined game of thrones for me and even in dialogue though they did do a good job of telling stories whether it was true or world building or not that's not the point of it but they did a good job of looping backstory and so i'll give them that but they did work very hard sometimes where they could have worked a little smarter. Yeah. I mean, you had Bran.

You had Bran. A whole season of Bran. Literally. You could have just used him as a vehicle for flashbacks. I mean, they did eventually. But like, could use him a little bit more if you needed to. And I think that's what they were afraid of right there. Yeah.

Is that of leaning on it too much. And I get that. But it's the stupidest thing they did. Yeah. I don't know. I hope we get a lot of i hope we get flashbacks to aegon's conquest you know you and i were talking about how we'd like to see that on a screen even if we get flashbacks to it that would be awesome honestly i would love aegon's conquest animated series i really because i feel like to i know they have a few that are possibly in development,

but I think with this story and especially Aegon's Conquest, it seems like a very higher point in magic. Well, even, oh, actually this one has more dragons than that did. So like, eh, it's doable, I guess. Well, then it makes me, I mean, that's the thing is you would have so much, you know, so much room for these battles. Like the battle over the God's Eye with Damon. That's going to be the most expensive battle in the world. But, you know, you can see it in your mind in animation already.

So why not bring it to screen in full? I mean, that's going to be some Avatar 2 shit, you know? Oh, when that comes down the line, I'm going to tell you guys this right now. That is probably going to be my favorite episode of the series calling it early well beyond that what are your big moments that you're super excited for to see on a screen like what is what are the things from the dance that you want to see i'm really excited to see the nettles damon dynamic play out. I really like Nettles. I do like the theory that she's, like, the inspiration for the burned men in the Vale.

So, like, maybe if they can kind of show that, like, just as a nod to, like, book readers and stuff, that'd be cool. Like, her just chilling in the mountains of the Vale and, like, you know, her and Cheap's daily burning people and shit. And like a little, I mean, obviously, probably I spent too much time on that, but like just allude to it and maybe like an epilogue scene. Make me happy. Yeah, I think we have to get all of, I mean, Eliana and I have been arguing about this. Like, what are we going to get cut or not? And I could see one or two of the kids getting cut story wise. Like you can cut mailer

you could cut um you know you can somehow cut through a couple kids if you had to get rid of darren if you didn't think there was longevity in the show yeah but i really really i'm excited because i think they're going to show us some of that veil stuff and i was worried that they would cut nettles in full that's like eliana and i've been so worried about but i personally think you can't i don't think you can tell an effective story and you want to give damon the complexity like you have to have it especially if they do a reveal like she's his kid or something oh my god that would be so fucked but i would want to see it but um with their relationship obviously that kind of leads more towards like Raynera's eventual

like spiral like she really starts to lose her shit especially after the betrayal of the other dragon seeds which actually is another one I'm excited to see I hate those douche bags but I'm excited to see it I know right Ulf and Hugh

god but I do want to see Adam. I do. I want to see our Valerian boys. And I do think, I don't know, maybe we won't get all the dragon seeds, but I think that's like such an important part of what George was trying to emphasize in that book, right? Like Nettles is a dragon rider and she has brown hair, brown skin skin brown eyes like you don't have to technically be a targaryen to mount a dragon or be you know a dragon rider of old valeria and i think that is something important

like to bring to the series to kind of i mean the whole book is basically just whispering like targaryen exceptionalism isn't great for people. She learned how to tame a dragon. Really quiet. Yeah. Well, super quiet on that end. But, oh, what was I going to say about the dragon seeds? I feel like you have, I feel, what worked well with this, like the Song of Ice and Fire series in Game of Thrones itself, the amount of characters. And obviously there's a lot of death. So like letting us get attached people kill them off and like i just like cycle through my mind how many characters that we saw on screen even with the all the cuts that they made and i'm like

jeez that's a lot of people still and then fire and blood i just imagine like are they gonna add more people because i feel like is it the same amount like as now when i'm thinking about it and like how many people die and like when they start to die i'm like we got to kind of fill those ranks with other people like a little bit for storytelling so it's gonna be very interesting to see how they do that and logically they want to go for like four or five seasons yeah which i think i think anything more than five seasons would start to stretch the story personally. Agreed. I think that you could tell a great Dance of the Dragons story,

and I think you could probably do it all the way to Aegon III taking control. And I think that it would be very important to show that as the last episode of him walking in and basically telling them to fuck off. Because who had a better story than Aegon III? Bran. I'm just kidding who watched their family die in front of them um through a vicious war poor baby i know they are truly like i mean they are very similar characters with where they're supposed to be entering the throne in the stories and i don't know you have to show our the wolf like oh absolutely you have to we need that that's that's the biggest like just the the you have the climax

then you have the come down from the climax and that's what comes after is that and rebuilding with agan three and the firing of his men get out I'm boss now. Yeah. I'm 13 and sad. I'm emo boy. The original. He's like, I listen to Hawthorne Heights and you can't stop me. Honestly, I would love to see that. And if they didn't end it there with him telling everybody to essentially fuck off and shit, I would like at least to see his wedding. Mm-hmm.

Yes. That would be fun. I would love, I think see like his wedding. Mm-hmm. Yes. That'd be fun. I would love like I think the cattle show would be great. It would be such an expensive like in a good way, but it would be such an expensive great set to like in your last season to have that be one of the climactic episodes. Yeah. Like truly it would probably, I mean,

that would be towards the end of the last season. You'd have like three or four episodes at the end of the season to finish it off to be honest i feel like they're gonna they also save probably a lot of money in production because i'm assuming they're reusing a lot of old sets i mean i would just but they're making a lot of new ones oh yeah for obviously like the places we haven't been to, which I like, or even just additional rooms that we haven't seen in some of our, you know, favorite locations. But to me it just makes, I

mean, I like to save money so I would reuse the pre-existing King's Landing red keep set if it were me. But I mean, I'm gonna be honest, I watched this video on instagram today of just all the production shots that somebody could basically put together it's like five minutes

and it's like a photo a second and there's a lot of good stuff like it looks like i mean i definitely think that we see house royce's key i think in the veil um yeah uh all the i mean driftmark is gorgeous everything for driftmark is really beautiful just the location is gorgeous and there are a bunch of like i don't know wall sconces that are little seahorses with dragon wings really cool really neat which i mean even those little details make it feel so fanciful i mean remember you know all the lannister stuff after robert was gone yeah think of that it was very fanciful and even the court when robert was there was kind of fanciful i feel like it's gonna look really opulent there yes yeah it's very rich i can't wait to see like the inside of Storm's End. Like for real, for real.

Storm's End. Storm's End is going to look so crazy. I mean, we saw it, what? We fake saw it in Game of Thrones. Very, very briefly. What, like under a gate? Like, ooh. Yeah.

I mean, so did we even? I don't think we really even, we didn't see it. We saw it under the gate. Yeah, that's it. Yeah, it just wouldn't. Because we didn't get any of that. Because they cut literally all of that. I wish, I know she's going to be happy that I'm saying this.

I love MJ. But our boy, Sir Courtney Penrose, I am so mad that got cut. That would have been so great to watch. Like, I love it. I mean, it would make you care about any of these characters like any of them holy shit wow that was in my head the whole time king sass like king sassy pants i wish we got that but i love the idea of it like looking like an actual like a huge drum and i love the round towers the way it's described i'm so excited that's gonna be an awesome battle episode

it reminds me of it reminds me of star wars and you know a lot about star wars star wars that's my baby uh i actually it was mad funny i was reading a star wars comic actually before we got on this and you'd have thought i'd been brushing up on some other stuff but nope nope it's star wars season kenobi's on guys the finale's coming up what do you expect from me but jango fett versus obi-wan kenobi on camino that battle when he leaves that's what i imagine storm's end is with loose with luke yes very stormy chaotic oh that's gonna be fun that's actually a good parallel yeah that's what i see when i see obi-wan in my head fighting that i that's what i see lucerys about to fight and

die i could see that especially like all the way forth that story oh yeah sad poor boy poor boy actually you know what i really just thought of and i feel like this is a gross oversight by the wardrobe department and makeup and hair um as we all know our beloved queen that never was rainies is a baratheon and is supposed to have predominantly black hair with like a white streak and not like the white platinum blonde hair that she has because you know like to there was no canon until 2018 when fire and blood came out the seed is strong more or less thinking of like isn't this how we justified that the lannister kids were lannisters and not Baratheons because they had blonde hair not black hair like in that big ass book well and that's like the entire point of Jon Snow too like you're literally introduced to it with Jon Snow because the joke that the

seed is strong the Baratheon over Lannister blood is an overarching like joke for Jon being Lyanna and Rhaegar gars and so it is kind of silly like george never specified it and i think they just like didn't want to confuse people further i think so that makes sense like shireen right like shireen had like dirty blonde hair oh my god i can't believe i just realized that you're absolutely right like she was supposed to have dark hair like that was the whole plot yeah So that's even a bigger like mistake. You have Gendry and you're like parading him around. He looks like Robert because of his dark hair.

Don't look at Shireen. Yeah. Don't see her. Don't see her. She looks like her mom. Which is like not supposed to happen. But yeah, that makes sense. That's just a me being Nick picky.

I'm like, um, guys. Especially because she looks really, Eve Best looks really good with dark hair, so it's really disappointing to me that they did this. Especially because of the atrocity that is that wig that they did to her. Oh, that like beehive-y looking thing going on. Yeah, I get you're trying to like

emulate she's from a different era and she has a certain amount of regard and regality, but like, I don't know. It just is a weird, you know, not, it doesn't look good. Yeah. Yeah. It's just a bummer. And also, like, it looks painful.

I'm like, how is it sticking up like that? Like, what are they, what's underneath it? Or, like, what are they using? Foam and quilted, probably quilted batting or foam. I'm for real. That's what I used to do with cosplay stuff. Yeah, that would make sense. You would take a little bit of quilting and you would actually sew it beneath the hair

and then re-sew the wefts into it. Oh, shit. Basically to make it look natural, to give yourself... Remember the bump-its we used to wear? Yeah, oh my gosh. Back in the Jersey Day eras. Yes. Auntie Rainey's has a bump bump it in and it does not look

good no one has told her yet who's gonna tell her the bumpets are out that is some ought shit she's supposed to go down the shore hang out with polly d and then it's gonna be great it's gonna be great gtl gtl cabs in dragons are here oh my god it's drift mark time i mean we have a theory here at girls gone canon that drift mark is delaware uh george kind of talked about how in jersey in jersey city area well bam where he grew up he talked at the fire and blood live event that he did about how like you know he thought that he was a Targaryen and he was on Dragonstone. That's what he wrote about Dragonstone on. And I'm like, wait, does that mean that you'd stare across the Delaware at Driftmark? Also, like the exact

a toll when you go into Delaware, there's a toll, which pays for you know, there are no taxes. If you want to go out there shopping i'm just saying the burlington out there is fire i hear but delaware right there no taxes but you pay a toll to get in and it's like a you know 45 minute tour of the place little island it feels like it's just like driftmark oh i didn't even think of it that way and that would make like king's landing i'd assume like new york city yeah a little bit right yeah that makes sense with the crown lands uh And that would make like King's Landing, I'd assume, like New York City. Yeah, a little bit, right? Yeah.

That makes sense with the Crownlands unraveling all around it and then the Riverlands kind of being the Midwest next to it. Yeah. I'm a New Englander. I'm going to take us as the North. We're going to take that for ourselves. I don't know i lived uh close to the wall but not north of it if you really you know michigan the upper and lower peninsula back in the day that's kind of how i used to look at it and it gets cold over there used to but you know we've accidentally punched this huge hole in the universe and now it's just leaking it's funny you say that i actually was bringing that

up earlier with my friends we were talking about talking about how winter lately has been very mild up here. Yeah, there's no winter anymore. It's kind of wild. We haven't had – Our last serious winter was probably that winter, end of 2014, beginning of 2015. That was the last real winter we had, and we had over 100 inches of snow that winter

like that shit like snow was piled up and like melting into like the summertime the last bad winter i remember is 2012 2013 like that is legit the last real bad one so i am completely on board with that i remember a snowstorm where i got to watch the transformers blow in the sky and it was like green it was like black water not even like i was like watch the transformers blow in the sky and it was like green it was like black water not even like i was like holy shit wildfire is painting the sky i was actually literally finishing the books at that time so uh the published books so i was really excited i was like is this happening is this it oh god this is what it looks like davos no oh oh yeah and his Davos, no. Oh, no. Oh. Yeah. And his poor little children's.

Oh, speaking of Davos, we're going to get our own Davos, right? I hope we get Oakenfist. We better get Oakenfist. I hope we get all the way to Viserys coming back. That would be good. If they don't show him coming back at least do like one of those like you know like when movies end it's like it finally wraps the series they have like a little blurb about what happened to the people after they got a documentary and it's like nice little cute montage and then it's like tragedy struck and 20 years later when you know somebody did some shit like i'm sorry

that was the worst description of how those documentaries had but i was just like for a 10 with like and then viserys came back a couple years later i know you probably wondered what happened to that little boy you thought he died he didn't die he actually came back but we're not going to show it to you because budgets but i mean what if they kept going What if like we hit season five, they finished Dance of the Dragons. And what if it was so wildly popular, they got to keep going and we flash forward to like, I don't know, they don't even have to do the rest of egg three. But what if we flash forward and we get the Baylor stuff and we get

like a flash forward of Elena and the Maiden Vault girls that would be fun because I mean it is called House of the Dragon that leaves a little bit of creative liberty right it gives you a lot of wiggle room the Regency of Egg 3 ending there I you can see it cleanly end like him walking in and being like shall we we fucking begin? That's a great ending for Egg 3 and a great way to, like, close the book, so to speak, on him. And then you could move on. I mean, again, you don't have to show

the next couple people or the way there. You could flash. I think it could work. You can jump. If not, I could see it definitely getting its own, like, spinoff of a spinoff and, like, just continuing from there i really i just want to see the black rider rebellions only because if they have a duncan egg story in the works you need like i feel like for obviously for us like we're more aware

of like the backstory and everything that kind of leads up to it but i feel like there's too much backstory it's not like robert's rebellion where you can kind of like drop a couple lines here and there like from like the game of thrones series like how they did that and even in the novels they kind of just drop they kind of drop things here and there about robert's rebellion but when you think about that's only a very short period of time compared to like black fire rebellions that's like three different war periods yeah generations a family and like a shit ton of backstory it's like that's a trilogy yeah oh hey black fire one black fire two black fire three two black fire Blackfire one, Blackfire two, Blackfire three. Two Blackfire, two Furious. I would love to see that.

I was going to say... Revving up my dragon. Family. Yeah, I was just going to say family. Get out of here. Who would be the Dom Toretto? Dom Toretto would be like... Bittersteel, maybe?

Like on that side. Yeah, maybe Bittersteel. He seems the type to be like bitter steel maybe like on that side yeah he seems to be the type he seems the type to be like family bitter steel would be good especially just because of his coloring and because of how buff he is i also wonder if like i don't know bitter steel is like the meaner one right yeah blood raven's the whiny one and shira's just hot so she's so hot she's so hot i mean what are these two even doing right blood raven had to literally develop like paranormal psychic powers and like become a tree shira just had to exist yeah that's it she's like i'm just here i'm cool like i'm so sad in love with you i have to get strong and then you have her and dorky over here like look magic i think there's a lot in the great bastards i think there's so much good stuff in the great

bastards i would love to see that like hbl make it happen that's why the dragon seeds to me are such like a great thing to follow and chase especially because the books the main series is boasting so much of blood not mattering yeah and like bastardry not mattering and like parentage and bloodlines not mattering you know like tyrian john davos um everyone in the story really so that would be so great to actually get echoes of and like follow great bastards yeah i would say even with um house of the dragon a lot of that has to do with like bloodline and succession and stuff like that you know with like um reynara and her kids essentially being i feel like if reynara's kids weren't

bastards like let's be they're strong kids like i i'm not gonna sugarcoat it those those are strong boys we know it we know it we know it we know it it's cool it's whatever like i i'm not gonna sugarcoat it those those are strong boys we know it we know it we know it we know it it's cool it's whatever like i feel you sis it happens but um wouldn't that be like rivers boys yeah because they are from the river the riverlands or wait are they technically yeah rivers yeah yeah they would be rivers because they're dad. Or would it be Waters because of the Crownlands? Oh, that's a good point. Which one outranks what? But that is like the teaser.

You have the voiceover, right? With Corlys. Blood doesn't matter. Names matter. Exactly. Who you were. Yeah, so it kind of gives them like a slide. Even though I feel like even with Fire and Blood, like the book itself, everybody kind of seems to agree.

Like their last name might have been Valerian, but were they really? But think of Adam Valerian, right? Or I mean, Adam's grave at the very end, his brother Alan puts only the word loyal on his tomb. It doesn't matter what his last name was or wasn't. And if he was a bastard or not and whose bastard he was or not what mattered was you know that he did the right thing by taking on enemy dragon riders to save people's lives like that was a very very crazy battle and him and sea smoke bet it face on i'm so sad which i know they deserved better but i that's what i'm excited to see

because we have to see like um that whole like how obviously like they say like oh bastards are like bad people if you will or like oh what is it like they have bad blood i don't know i forgot the exact terminology they use like a little catchphrase they talk about with like bastards being untrustworthy and in this series we get to see that that's not necessarily well for everyone that's not necessarily the case but for the majority they all seem to be pretty like dedicated to their causes and loyal to whatever side that they're on besides like two you have characters being forced to become bastards, right, in Sansa and even Arya. You have Dorne, you have the bastards of Dorne being powerful and actually being given a little bit of agency in their lives and in their estate in Dorne and being allowed to do things.

You have Arayne Waters, bastard of Driftmark, coming up, you know know to power you have gendry you have all these different characters wax hell you have wax yeah ex squire that is helping out with davos and john my boo maya my boo maya i love her she's my i like maya because she just minds her fucking business and does her job like what a great kid and she's like very matter of fact she's's like, you know, end of the day, I just got to finish my job and get y'all MRFers across here. So shut up. Follow me across. You're going to be fine. I haven't lost anyone yet.

Yeah, I love that. Even like Edric Storm. He's young. He could grow to be, you know, less annoying. And who else? You even have like the bastard. You have Joy Hill, the Lannister bastard. Oh, I forgot about...

I always thought she might have been Jerry... Yeah, Jerry and she's Jerry and his daughter. I'm like, Jerry. Jerry and his uncle that he likes. I got lost. That guy. Hey, Jerry Lannister.

Hey, my guy. Yeah, Joy is his daughter his daughter yeah i actually hope she like sticks around you know i hope she doesn't die yeah and then we get like the other shitty like um fray bastards yes that's true uh walter rivers right yep ramsay how the hell do we say ramsay yeah we have the bad side of these bastards right we do have the bad side yeah but overwhelmingly overwhelmingly they're pretty positive kids no I do think that otherwise like the majority of the bastards that we meet are not bad in book and I don't know I think it's a great thing to just like unwind especially also family dynamics like something i really really really love is that corley's quite obviously knew that

laner was not getting you know yeah when you're pregnant like he didn't care as long as he still had an heir for all of these riches that he went and plundered right like he wanted a better name for his family and he doesn't care what that means for family like redefining family what is that family oh then maybe he's dom teretto takes it back let's move it here we're in this franchise besides the black fire the black fire franchise but in the house of the dragon franchise right now he's dom teretto because it's all about family he might be Dom Toretto now that you say it because he is all about family and he goes on so many movies like I could see him having like being

a part of like Fast 10 like it makes sense because he like outlives everybody he's going on all these adventures you know yeah Corliss lives for fucking ever it's actually really ridiculous you're right he has a very long life which makes makes me happy. Extremely long. It makes me happy. No, good for him. Yeah, because I love him. I was like, he's one of my favorite characters, like, in the whole world of Ice and Fire, if you will. I feel like he has a very interesting life that he leads.

And I like that he was really accepting of the kids. That's one of my favorite things. I think I really like that about him because he didn't have to be but he is yeah i mean it could be a pretty fucking big insult right for your kid to be married off to the the royal ruler for the targaryens and then for your kid to not get any children from them like what was the point right yeah and the point is like the name the prestige and i mean truly they didn't want to do it with each other i think reynara may have tried and he was just like no cooties which i i don't know i picture laner saying that she had cooties but i do i mean he's busy he's busy getting cooties from other places that he wants them from and

she knew that she so knew that that's the thing is like I'm so sure that they both wanted convenience and did not want to be responsible for having to bang each other's brains out and pretend to be passionate about it right yeah and I think that's the other part of it. The Targaryens have so many secrets that they held at court and otherwise. And I feel like everyone is living up to their rule, right? The Lannisters are like, hush, hush, no one can know of our incest relationship. That's something only the Targaryens would be able to get away with. And everyone's just living up to that when it's like they had their own horrible secrets. Exactly.

And actually, i'm very interested to see their dynamic play out on screen lenore and reynera because it kind of reminds me of um marjorie and why am i forgetting stannis and robert's little brother's name renly yeah it reminds me of renly which is like i mean do you want my like brother to come in or something or like warm me up yeah it does it is reminiscent of that and i also can see even just in show parallel like the sansa loris you know the relationship but where loris was very sweet to her but it was like oh darling oh sweetie i'm very much getting plowed by someone not you smile like i guess we're both getting our black blown out tonight babes i'm just kidding

that's how i imagine lanor and rain era like how was your night it was great sis how was yours awesome i feel like they were very open with each other about it yeah i would love that if there's one thing raniera did is it's she chased what the cunt wanted you know what i mean like she followed the cunt or the cunt wanted her to take it absolutely she was not she followed her passions her loins they were like yes yes yes yes and she followed that and i mean i don't know about you but i saw the casting for harwin strong and um he's all right yeah pretty pretty good looking fella good source material you know uh the muse the muse you know reneara's like something has to inspire me to continue being a queen

yeah maybe it's man maybe it's carved man with cheled, very chiseled jaw, that guy. Yeah, no, I totally, I see it. I see why, Rhaenyra. I don't blame you. I really want so badly to get more of the strong boys. Like, I can't wait until August. I want to see the boyos. I want to see, I guess we might not even see for a long time the grown ones, right? We might see only the young version.

Yeah. I'm curious. I know we talked about this on Direwolf City in our last stream that we did on Gray Area's channel, kind of pitching where we think season one timeline, where it might end up. season one timeline where it might end up and collectively we kind of like at first I was in my like absolutely like no like Viserys has to die season one like no way like no way around it but after we were talking about it further I'm like him dying at the top of season two could make a lot of sense as well just to build up a lot of the backstory and tension

because his reign is rather long and from the looks of it it does seem like we're gonna get some flashbacks so like to really flesh it out I feel like they should make us care for Laenor and Laena and I don't want their screen time to be rushed either yeah unfortunately

I do think that it's gonna be rushed like as far i mean they're gonna get flashbacks in but i think lana dies this season oh yeah around it yeah lana because we've like seen her funeral like i think lana or lana kick the bucket like me my bigger pitch was i thought viserys would die probably like episode nine like the penultimate episode kind of like they tend to do that like like it's dad episode it's ned's death season one episode nine they he has to die then i really do think he will i i don't know i could see them moving it yeah i like the season two like opening with his death like um i believe it was mandy she pitched it in like just the way she like made me visualize i was like oh that would so beautiful. She's like season two opening with him, like like the opening kind of like a cold opening would be him with like Helena and the grandkids like getting ready to go to bed.

And then you see like somebody running down the hall and like just kind of like the king is dead. And like that kind of be the opening for season two. Oh, which I'm like, I loved that idea. for season two. Which I'm like, I loved that idea. I could see them pulling a real asshole move and doing quite the opposite in that killing him at the

very end, the last bit of the episode, but all you see is him dead and nothing else. And then you open with the ravens flying. That could be crazy. That would be fun. I think they're gonna get it over with this season which is good because patty consign has other great jobs he has to do and i think you might

get some other flashbacks with him yeah moving down the line i think it's going to be a lot more linear than people are expecting zach and i last week from game of omes we discussed that a little and like i think we're gonna get a lot of flashbacks. And I think we might even start young. And then have some flash forwards. Honestly, I really hope that they're kind of like holding this one to the chest. But I really would love to see a Jaehaerys cameo if they go that far back. Well, you can see him in the teaser trailer. That's what I thought.

It's sitting on the throne. It looks like um it's sitting on the throne it looks like there's somebody like sitting on the throne and it's totally him i wanted to be him and i'm like i guess they don't have to be super nitpicky because if i'm not mistaken he wasn't actually there no absolutely not it's so not canon and i love it but i i don't give a shit if i get to see him so make it happen. I mean, I'm not complaining. You can just see that. I mean, that's the thing is these trailers give away so much.

It's great. You can just see that. You can see that the council at the beginning of the trailer, of the teaser trailer that came out a few weeks ago, is the first one is obviously with Viserys. And then you see the second council is definitely not there and it's at harrenhal and it's very different and they're very smart though because they're like putting harrenhal shots together like it's obviously different times at harrenhal yeah you could tell that the actual room is different in the same different shots of the room that you get

with damon going there versus uh the council you can see it's different it's very clever but a sharp eye can catch it definitely can catch it like that and like you see lena's funeral it's very sad but it's interesting because if this is what they've put out so far i want to know what i'm like give me the rest yeah and it honestly it kind of gets me because i feel like a lot of shows lately most of their trailers obviously not every show but a lot of shows lately their trailers like the first three episodes well at least disney i should say disney plus has been doing that i follow a lot of that of like that big teaser trailer that'll always show you what's to come in the season you can always like you can sort okay, we haven't seen this yet, but we have seen this.

We have seen this. And you can kind of compare the older promotional stuff. And that's something that, A, I miss it. I used to love doing that with Game of Thrones. I'd be like, oh, my God, so that puts this here. And now, oh, my God, we're back in business, Ara. We're back in business. We're back.

My brain has been so excited i'm just like i can't wait whenever any like whenever i literally have notifications on my phone for whenever house of the dragon official account tweets oh i have it uh i have notifications in the discord in the different channels for different accounts like that for hot d oh yes yes yeah we get them them straight in there so we all can see it at once and freak out together, which is so exciting. Honestly, when they dropped the trailer,

I just so happened to have the day off, and I literally lost my mind. Oh, my bad. I was like, ah! Like, ah! It was so great. It was so great. Which reminds me, I feel like we should have another one coming out really soon because figure we're already midway through june we only got to august 21st

that is like we're almost done with june actually so we're very we are actually almost two months to the date of the time of this recording wow yeah hot d is on our screen that's nuts so next month we're gonna start getting more promotional material then right yeah i wouldn't be surprised if we get something fourth of july week or right before oh definitely i'm waiting for the ew james hibbard san diego Diego Comic Con at the end of July is going to be big too because George is going to San Diego this year he's going to San Diego Comic Con for House of the Dragon

they're going to drop some shit I can't wait so we're going to get a trailer at the end of July is what that means because you know they used to have like the themes for like um i want to say like was it season five like a lot of the promo trailer was like the house of black and white yes it unfortunately yes and then like yeah and then like um i forgot which season was where it's

like i think it was the last season it was just like everybody on the throne and shit like that so i'm like i'm waiting to see what they pick well so we've had the solo shots with the targaryen sigil behind them um i mean we just saw the other day come out valyrian steel and another replica a black fire creator yep they made black fire which means dark sister is probably coming oh definitely i hope she's coming. I hope she is. And it looks good. I mean, the Blackfire replica looks good. It's got like two dragon mouths at the hilt facing out.

And it has the very, very handle. It has the red ruby in there, the ruby inside of like a very nice little flirty patterned handle. It's very skinny. It's very pointy like matt smith so that's good it'll match him you know very skinny and pointy nice uh so we're starting to get that so that means we're gonna get soon more more material is gonna leak of like t-shirts like i've already seen some t-shirts are hitting stores with a big dragon sigil on it and bit by bit merch is being released so

we're going to start getting from like the unofficial stuff and photos of toys that's what i was gonna say where's the lego photos at the legos i know i'm like where's the driftmark lego driftmark lego set actually no seriously where is it don't really drop it bestie yeah i feel like the toys always kind of like give it away a little early where the funko all the funko pops are gonna be amazing i'm so excited i need the funko pops and i don't even like i love funko pops they're cute i don't need them i don't obsess over them i don't usually buy them for myself i usually get them in random, but I'm a little interested in these ones. I am a little interested in these ones.

Yeah. I'll be honest. I have like two, like two, both gifted to me because I know once I like open that can of worms, I'm never going to close it. Once you realize it's like an easy $10 purchase or $20 purchase or $30 purchase just here and there. Then you start getting that dopamine hit every time you do it. Then it becomes addictive. It's like, all right, I can't afford this. I can't afford all this. I would be one of those people. So like, I know myself. I'm self-aware. I will be the Funko Pop addict. And next thing you know,

you're just going to see like a whole mountain of them just piling up behind me one day. thing you know you're just gonna see like a whole mountain of them just piling up behind me one day well so game of thrones didn't do any lego stuff previously right so they did the custom mini toys and like the they they worked with mega constructs and mcfarland toys did some really cool stuff i have a monopoly i've been a game of thrones. Okay. Because I know there's a chess set too. There's a Monopoly. But there isn't any Legos. So I wonder, is this time for them to break into Legos? Because imagine just all the castles.

That's such an easy go-to. Imagine having your own model like Mariah DeKeef. Well, and so here's the weird thing. Game of Thrones is different because of their licensing so one of my buddies used to work for valerian steel he probably still does now that i say that i haven't talked to him in a while but he works for valerian steel and he told me that the way game of thrones licensing works there are so few licenses that they give out for their work uh they do not sell the license for items and for merch and stuff as easily so they have way fewer licenses than most of your other

places so i don't think that there's it looks like mega constructs oh there he is it looks like mega constructs might have the license for this kind of thing for them oh that would make sense because now they think about it like i like obviously you'll see like clothing like clothing here and there a lot of it's unofficial a lot of unofficial clothing out there but like hey i'll buy it um it's such a missed opportunity in my opinion but i guess it's good because i don't want it to be this big gross commercialized thing even though it already is uh because it's bad enough so i don't need it being blown out like that but at the same time i'm like damn you could sell so many house shirts like sigil shirts and people would just buy them oh why not like i'd pick up like where is it

i'm like oh damn i moved it up no i didn't like i have this like you guys can't see this but i'm holding up a slytherin patch yep i have that patch i mean harry potter world fuck jk rowling as we've stayed before many times but like fuck her and all and fuck everything about her but god it sucks because wb merchandised the fuck out of harry potter and and that's why every single person is like what hogwarts house are you on their tinder you know what i mean like that's why every person is like it's so ingrained in culture because they made it such an easy capitalistic grab which is both parts good and bad like i both want it and hate it yeah i mean as a slytherin i get annoyed because and sometimes it's very hard to find merch for us because

it is very hard to find merchandise for us as a fellow slytherin gang i'm just gonna piss with me my sister i mean it could be worse, though. It could be, like, Hufflepuffs. I feel like there's, like, nothing for Hufflepuffs in, like, Ravenclaws. At least, like, ours, we get, like, some shit. But, like. Yeah, because you have, like, the good or the bad guys.

But I will argue in recent years they've really pumped that up. Like, they really care about the Hufflepuffs now. Yeah, I think that's Fantastic Beasts. Yeah. Yeah, also it helps that so many people are hufflepuffs it turns out they think yeah my um my dad and my stepmom are actually both hufflepuffs damn i thought maybe i'd get ravenclaw a few times on that crap but no oh no i've been a slytherin since i read the books at the tender age of eight. I was like, that was that sick kid.

I was like, yeah, no, this house seems like the cool house. I was like, that drags on my voice onto something. Yeah, Nazism. Jesus. I was like, I want to pull on hair like that.

That sounds cool. It's true. It's funny because there's this part of me when I was a kid that was like, I want blonde hair like that. That sounds cool. It's true. It's funny because there's this part of me when I was a kid that was like, I used to think blonde guys were cute when I was younger. And then I was like, or did all my girlfriends at the time just think the blonde guys weren't cute? And I was like, I'll take those ones. I'll take the rejects. Probably.

I don't know. Well, I used to have like platinum blonde hair especially honestly so I had like gold blonde hair at one point but then I went like platinum blonde and I blame a lot of that on like a combination of Daenerys and like the Malfoy's

like whenever I would get my hair done I would always like when my roots would get touched up I'd post like a picture of Daenerys or like a gif I had the platinum 2013. I was platinum actually. I was platinum in 2013. So I really respect that. Everything was Daenerys quotes in my like Instagram captions.

Honestly, like actually like for my wedding, for my hair, I did a Daenerys hairstyle. Amazing. I was like, this this one make it happen i had a braid yeah honestly speaking of hairstyles i want that like i don't know how i would do it and what the occasion would be but reynera's like braided crown hairstyle from the trailer where she's like i want it so bad i don't have an occasion for it but i will figure it out but i want to do my hair like that i really want more of the costuming in the hair a i want them to make up for what they've done to rainies to me uh that i would i would require that to be made up to me by the end of the show. Thank you very much. But that said, I can't wait to see other hair, especially some of the textured hair.

I'm excited to see what different styles they are creative with with that. With the Valerians, I think that's awesome. Some of the hairstyles for the different female Valerians I'm seeing have been really great so far, even just background characters. background characters also that like big respect for world building that we're not only seeing the valerians and then seeing people that look similar to them in the background showing like this is who lives here this is their family this is them that's awesome oh i agree which i'm super excited to see because a part of me is like oh i'm about to be lena I'm like, I can go back. And then you're like, I'm going to die. I'm like, yeah, I can die.

That would be a nice fun cause, but I can die my curls back to being platinum. I'm like, I'm going to figure it out. Probably not. My hair will probably like, my hair will like die if I did that. It would probably like stop. You just got back to normal.

Please cut it out. That's why my hair is so long now because I quit dyeing it, bleaching it, ruining it. And I've just let it go for four years and like just only dye it the same color. And I think there's going to be a baby boom of Daenerys blonde hair again out there. I think everybody in the pandemic especially has gone more natural or back to their roots or darker because of fatigue exhaustion depression i think we're gonna see another targaryen hair baby boom i think so as well i think it's oh my gosh i cannot wait to see it because like even my brain is just like i kind of want to go back i'm gonna watch this show and if you guys see me pop up with platinum blonde hair, just mind your business.

Look the other way. Mind your own business. Mind your business and let me live and let me be happy and let me pretend I'm a Valerian. All right? Like, I want to pretend Corliss is my dad and Rainey's is my mom, and that's just my headcanon, and no one's going to change it. I have really bad news to what happens to most of your siblings and your mom. Oh, no. Any way you skin this cat, it's not going so well.

You know what I mean? At least Papa's okay. I don't know what. I'm excited for the costumes on top of the hair. I'm excited for some of these hair looks but the costumes i want some turquoise teal you know and gray valerian gowns oh man there's so many great female presenting characters too right that we're gonna get so much different fashion like i've already seen there was some production picture of a woman in like a purple gown that it almost looks veilish like she's got kind of you know robert aaron had that that kind of long sleeve the veil sleeves

yeah his outfit that kind of look but with a gown and it was purple so it made me think it could even be a royce gown but it made me think a little bit like i'm like oh is that veil style and i want that back i want world building back for that right yeah that's exciting like the different hairs by the different regions and like i oh man it's like massaria's costuming i've been in love with like the it makes her almost look like a tree like i know they call it like the white worm but she like almost looks like a werewood a little bit if her hair was red i'd like like pass out if it were like that. But obviously it's not.

But it just looks – That cloak. The cloak has literal like – It looks like weirwood veins on it. Yes. I love that look. The costuming just looks so great. I think it's like her collar going back to that like kind of like scene with the Rainera

where they're like kind of like essentially like swearing fealty to her but um first person i saw point out on twitter was like diego but it had like um the different sigils for the different houses around her collar like that kind of detailing i'm so excited to see again well and it's something so simple as like i really didn't think about it in my stupid two brain cells I didn't rub them together enough to think that she Miss Aria would be dressed in all white like I didn't put that together in my feeble little peanut brain however now as I think about it I'm like oh yeah the white worm and it's so imposing compared to Melisandre the shadow binders we've met before, you know, the outfits they wear of all

red or dark colors. So having kind of this mythical person, this person with magical qualities, show up and she's wearing all white. She's a Gandalf. Very sick. Very exactly. It's very Gandalf-y. And even that collar that like her collar that she has in the outfit, she wears this like elaborate collar that almost looks like scales, like dragon scales with like silver beads on it. And I find that interesting that she's wearing a metal collar. Almost like makes me wonder if we'll get into some backstory for her of where she came from. If we have those Melisandre parallels and if that collar has more meaning. Oh, that'd be fun. Yeah, very interested.

I'm actually excited to see the armor. Like, it looks like we're going to get a lot of, like, dragon riding armor. Like, I want to see the dragons, like, saddled up. I want to see the armor on them. Like, I can't wait to – I'm just, like, pict like rainies and like this bad ass like dragon inspired armor outfit like i'm getting like azula avatar the last airbender like in my mind vibes but like like that and like maylies with like a fucking saddle like a war helmet or some weird shit like i cannot wait to see that kind of stuff especially like i always think of

daenerys's jewelry and how it's always like very beautiful ornate and there was like different dragon inspired ones like she has one where it's like it kind of looks like the dragon eating its own tail almost yes yeah the necklace with the necklace dress that she wears yes yes like i'm excited to see the different jewelry that they incorporate as well like i think it's gonna look so good i think it's really exciting and something daenerys costuming uh just from a costuming perspective like they would do different scales different like puckering of thread to to make scales like her mockingbird outfit that was a cutout uh like bikini top with the cutout mill with the skirt and it was that

that bluish color it was very beautiful but she had like the scales the puckering the ruching that that was done on it and i always thought that was very clever and it's so exciting to have something like you have so many targaryens and dragon riders so now you can have different sorts of textures and textiles that you're using in these costumes and sets to evoke that. Like Daemon in the trailer, his armor actually has some really cool different scale textures. Like part of it is one texture and it's scaly. And then there's another texture that's also scaly, but it's like shiny and finer. And mixing these different textiles and it kind of, you were saying very ornate what daenerys

did and very subtle and the different details that very much showed her connection with her heritage she was never able to be close to it right she had to make herself that heritage and create that heritage for herself alone out there where they've been basking in it they have laid around in their own targaryen stink for like fucking decades here okay and they cool century of like yeah of just doing shit nothing but also shit and like dragon riding and fighting and fucking and they have it down they're already in the dragon era so there's just gonna be like really casual dragon references on everything you see. Yeah, and it's going to – I can't wait to see that. It's going to be so awesome to watch that.

And just getting like more of the houses. I miss seeing like the different houses. Like more so like in the beginning of the show where you kind of had obviously like – with Game of Thrones beginning of the show where you had like a larger cast because less people died. But like we got to see a little bit more. There was like more travel. And they didn't kind of, like, how, like, in the later seasons, like, they really condensed the storyline. It was very minimal locations we were going to. Like, I'm really excited to get immersed back in the world.

And we're going to see the stepstones for the first time, like, on screen. So, like, that's going to be exciting. Like, all these, like, new locations that we've had referenced. But being able to see it on the screen, it's's gonna be exciting like all these like new locations that we've had referenced but being able to see it on the screen it's gonna be so great yeah i'm really excited for a lot of the old but i'm also really excited for a lot of the new like the stepstones and i think that's gonna take up a lot of that first season oh yeah yeah i think the first like the first half of that first season that's gonna be a really big plot oh i know like a lot of like um young damon like that's gonna be fun to see him being like a total douche but oh when does he stop never never

but i i can't wait to see it in like like the dragon pit whenever that pops up like oh but like it's like fear we saw dragon pit while it was ruined so being able to go back and see it when it's like and it's for the damage and it's glory at its height with all the oh it's gonna be so nice to see those like contrasts yeah and then we're gonna watch them kill all the dragons and that's's going to be fun. Yay! Oh, I just realized, the Great Sept isn't built yet, obviously, so that's going to be interesting to see. Obviously, we saw what it looked like post-Sept. The Good Sept.

Boom, boom, Cersei. It's going to be interesting to see what that, because I'm so used to like that king's landing like skyline if you will with the set even when they blew up the sub my brain still has it there so being able to like see it before that like for reals before that not with like a big crater in the ground like it's gonna be good it's gonna be good oh yeah we're gonna see king's landing before and then we can take some shots of it after yay but i'm excited i uh i'm excited to come back to listen to some dire wolf city when you guys are going strong on hot d this summer i don't think i don't know we don't really have big plans to cover it we're letting all you big people do it and we're just gonna come hang out with

everybody who's doing it it's kind of our goal so we're this is not official announcement guys so take this with a grain of salt um but we are most likely going to be doing like reviews and like our little after show on monday nights So the day after the episode has aired. Just to allow, you know, obviously we have the different time zones and stuff like that. We do have some viewers in, you know, like Europe and other places where they don't see it when we see it. They get kind of like a little bit later. Also because it's time. Yeah, because it's time to actually like really comb through the episode, get all those little

missable details that we might have overlooked on a first watch. So kind of like how we did for Euphoria, we're going to do the next day. So we can really go rewatch and catch all those little fine details. Some digestion and then get into it. Oh, I'm so excited. Okay, so we will make sure to link below uh your youtube channel as well as gray's channel just so everybody has it in case because i know once in a while you guys flop from which place you're on but everyone has to subscribe to both so that you are ready and prepared for your monday

nights after august 21st august 22nd and on yes august 22nd time pending but yes we're definitely going to be doing mondays i know that's like i know i said take it with a grain of salt but like don't take it that much with a grain of salt it's mondays time pending but it's mondays it's mondays uh well thank you so much for hanging out with me tonight i had a really good time just chit-chatting about Hot D. And I guess closing remarks, closing hopes, closing thoughts and wishes? Besides the fact that we're literally like – It dawned on me while we were talking about it that we're about two months away. It's like really, really exciting me.

Like I'm like shaking. I know. I've got the hype. I've got the hype. The hype's taking over. But I'm just really ready to see this show. And I just want to say, let's keep the discourse civil. Because there are going to be a lot of sensitive topics with this show. A lot of...

Dead children. Dead children. There's some grooming going on between an uncle and an ease some you know incest and like other murders and murder well you know keep it civil because you can't spell civil war without civil you guys exactly just leave the civil war on the screen and not in the comments oh i can't wait for twitter oh god it's gonna be fucking awful like in the best and worst of ways but yeah also team black i am team black i just want everybody to know that if you didn't know that now you know reynara the rightful heir our true queen yeah absolutely god damn hell yeah also

fuck sir otto hightower who would like fuck sir otto hightower on behalf of everyone in the story whether we're talking alicent reynara vizsera's fuck otto hightower yeah because all of this could have been avoided actually i have stronger thoughts on that i think all this could have been avoided if jaharis listened to alice and just gave you know rainies her rights back in the day but story for another day another episode that is another episode with us tell everyone at home where they can find you online miss yes you can find me on all the socials at I eat zebra that's all one word yes I know it's weird but it is that's me hi I can see about hi that's me but yeah um yeah that's about it I'm like literally everywhere the

only place I don't really go on that I have is Snapchat and have the app haven't opened in months but I feel like it's over it's over you know there's the gram there's the twitter yep there's the youtubes like I'm all over there well follow Ara there and thank you so much Ara for coming on again

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