Girls Gone Canon Cast - House of the Dragon: Unleash the D S3E1 featuring This Gray Area

Episode Date: June 5, 2026

Get so incredibly unleashed ahead of season 3 as we talk prophecy, passion (specifically our personal passions), and promotions (Eliana's specifically). We're joined by the wonderful GRAY AREA once more to dive deep into dragons, human and not, and dreams. Where to find Gray Area Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@GrayArea Twitter: https://x.com/ThisGrayArea TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thisgrayarea Obsidian Nights Reread Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/obsidian-nights-podcast/id1511829391 Direwolf City YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@direwolfcity Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ThisGrayArea "Modern Jazz Samba" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

Hello and welcome to the critically acclaimed podcast that has been called a primer series made for the ages about House of the Dragon. Award winning Unleash the D. Season three, episode one featuring Gray Area. I'm one of your hosts, Chloe, and I'd like to welcome my special guest host for season three, who will be joining me in every episode, Eliana. Hi, thanks. Really glad to be here. And I'm so glad to be joined by my fellow guest, Gray. Are you a guest host, Elia? Yeah. I'm a guest on this podcast. Series regular, honestly. I'm going to promote you, Eliana. You're now a series regular on this podcast.

Whoa. I'm very glad to have Eliana here. Thank you, Eliana. And Gray, what the fuck is up? Thank you for coming on. This is going to be a blast. Thanks for having me. I loved being on the DeNaris reread part of Girls Goat Cannon, but I am super excited to be on Unleashed the Day. Yes. My favorite part about having you on with us for Unleash the D now that, you know, I'm a series regular, so I say us. Stop. Is that you, same as us, are like, I don't give a fuck. I love Hot D. I do. I do. I enjoy.

I don't understand. So for me, I don't want to get into that if we're going to be talking about. You want to blow your load too early? Yeah, I don't want to get into it too early. Okay, okay, okay, hold on to it for like just a moment. Great. We're going to talk about our spoilers policy. But first, can you tell us what is your plan for hot D? Where can everyone find you this season when the season starts? What are you going to do? Videos? Streams? What's going on? Videos on my channel. And of course, I like to live. tweet. I like to live tweet during House of the Dragon. Videos will be on my channel. I don't know if I'm going to do any streams. I might do one here or there. It will be random if I do this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It'll be a surprise. Maybe special, right? Like do it for like a finale or something. Yeah, something like that. We had so much fun last time in season two with y'all at DyerWiff City when we did our stream afterwards, but it's so crazy. We were just, I'm so tired.

I miss. I don't know if I can do streams all the time. I also had a lot of fun pre-season one. Yeah. Or maybe was that, yeah, like around the time that like House of the Dragon was announced. Yeah. So we all of our videos are greens. It was just, it's just so much work.

Oh, yeah. To do a stream. And then like all of us had like all of us had like all of us. getting on the same page, okay, we're going to stream this day at this time all the time. Like we could barely do it then and now like everyone situation is just different. But I mean, I would love to do we always talk about we're going to do it and then we don't do it. Because we never are all available at one time. Yeah.

I mean, that's real, right? Like I think people assume it's easy because like you make it look so easy. it's not. It takes a lot of coordination, a lot of planning, both in terms of what you're going to say and, like, you're adults with full-ass schedules. Like, being able to, like, do that, people should appreciate it and all the work you do. Well, and not just that, but great. Like, you were also doing then analysis videos throughout the week, like, whether short or long, You were like giving your entire body and soul to pot D. So everyone should be following you on YouTube.

If you aren't following gray area, that's a mistake. Make sure that you are following her over at Twitter as well. This gray area, gray with an A. If you're not following, that's like you're insane. You're one of like 20,000 people that isn't. Oh, thank you guys. Of course. I look forward to gray tweets.

I look forward to them all the time. You just, sometimes you be saying stuff on the timeline. And I'm like, yep, that's right, Gray. Sometimes I be saying stuff. No, sometimes I say stuff and I'm like, what is wrong with you? Like, I read it back and I'm like, what? Like, you are scrambled. Like, I literally am embarrassed that I tweeted that.

Like, I remember during House of the Dragon, I was like, I don't care how many times you guys tell me that Rainier's kids are bastards. I'm just going to gaslight you. Like, stop fucking telling me. I don't care. I don't care. That's so real. That's so a good feeling, though. Actually, like, with that mind, like, Sunday's live tweeting during is, like, the devil

is possessing you. Like, it doesn't matter because whatever you tweet doesn't, like, and you'll have shit blow up that you're like, I don't even remember tweeting this shit during the episode. When did I say this shit? Why did I feel that way? Oh, my God. I had that happen. Like, one of my biggest tweets ever was like when Rainey's looked at Alan and was like,

you're so calm. Your mother must have been beautiful. And I was like, oh, Catlin Stark would have sent his ass to the wall. I got roasted by the Catlin Stark fans. Oh, my God. I was like, oh, my God. Why did this tweet go like this? Why did this happen to me?

Yeah. You can never tell. Also, it's kind of hard, in my opinion. It's kind of hard to live tweet. Like, I don't have the brain. I personally don't have the brain to do it. I know, like, Chloe does it. And I've seen her.

I'm like, well, I can't pay attention to all those different things. There's a lot of, like, pre-planning, though. Like, I'm not going to lie to you all. Like, there is a little pre-planning, you know? Like, if you're online, if you're scrolling the feeds, you're saving memes once and a while, right? Like, I have a few reaction memes ready to go. And then it's always a gamble of like, yo, that moment in the episode.

perfectly lines up with this SpongeBob theme I saved on Tuesday at 3 a.m. You know what I mean? Yeah. There's a little, what I'm saying is you've got to be a real poster to do it. So you have to really commit with your heart. I just don't. I don't just watch it that time. Like, I watch it multiple times.

Yeah. We're going to watch this over and over and over. We're going to go over every detail. No, literally that. I think that's like the art. Back to what Eliana was fucking saying. Like, it's like you put so much time into it. what you see might not be indicative of that time, but like, I watched the episode at least two times, at least two times, if not three or four before we record an episode.

I think that's like, by no means is anyone just turning on their camera and talking. Yeah. Like, yeah. By no means there is whole analytics you need to like, you need to put in tags. You need to create a thumbnail. Like you need to do all of this stuff. because competition is insane and people are even now like using AI so you have to compete with people that aren't even real like you have to compete with robot too yeah true TikTok is insane I see

you post TikToks from time to time and I'm so impressed because like that pool is toxic there's a toxic little pool full of AI and people that read the wiki and nothing else yeah what is happening yeah icon with TikTok, I will just take a clip out of a video that I care about on YouTube, like just a little three second clip and put that on TikTok. I'm more into the deep lore. The high nerdery. Three minutes isn't enough. Yeah, that's not enough. Like you could, I think you can do 10 minutes, but nobody watches 10 minute TikTok. That's what YouTube. I do. You watch 10 minute TikToks? Yes, I am the person who will watch. Like, I've watched TikToks and like been like very engrossed

and whatever's going on. And I'll realize that was a 20 minute TikTok. And I'll be like, I didn't know you could even upload 20 minute TikToks first of all. And then I'm like, what's wrong with me? That's incredible. Can I say something insane? Like, I'm known for like, I'll wash my face and brush my teeth and I'll put on like a three minute TikTok.

And then I'll let it roll. And it'll be like the third time that I've heard it. And I'll be like washing my face. I'll be like, bitch, finish. Like you need to finish. What are you doing? But it's literally just looping. Yeah, it's just looping.

So it's like a punishment circle. Like it starts as a timer and it ends as a punishment circle. Yeah, it's like perfect for ADHD. Like I get sick of it and I'm like, okay, stop brushing your teeth now, I guess. Yeah. Oh, I will say I'd never watch it like, if I'm watching a video like that, that's like 10 to 20 minutes long. Obviously, I'm not watching it at, you know, 1X speed. Oh, that's even worse, though.

That's like real Gen Z-y shit. Anyways, sorry to our Gen Zsie fans love you. It's cool. Because I'm so young. It's because. I'm like 15. Don't forget. I'm like 12. I'm a minor.

Oh, my God. Okay. Great. So hyped you're here. We do have a spoilers policy that we need to get to. Oh, yeah. So we haven't spoiled much. Don't worry.

If you listen to us, you know that we're spoilers everything. We're spoilers all, baby. We're spoilers, everything. The books, the trailers, the shows, the, every single one of them, We've watched them all. Eliana hasn't watched the teaser trailer, all that said. No, I just watched it. Oh, you did.

A little bit ago, which is why I was like, what in the, whoa, spoilers for the rest of the episode. Never mind. Hold on that, that one. I'm going to hold up back on for a second. But no, I watched it. It was pretty long for a teaser trailer. I was like, I thought teaser trailers were like a minute, I feel as though there was a lot in this. And yeah, I mean, obviously I know what's going to happen.

for the most part in the story because we have fire and blood. And because Chloe and I do this for our fun, for our enjoyment, we decided that was where we will draw the line. This is, as you said, all spoilers, because we just want to, we're unleashed. Oh, my God. The D is unleashed. Exactly. We're unleashing the D together today for season three.

The D has been kept up for a whole entire year and a half, two years. So we're throwing it out, unleashing the D. Here's the dragon. And you're getting here at all. So with that said, there's a rumor that this great area is obsessed with prophecy. That bitch loves prophecy. She does. It's true.

The rumors are true. Wow. She does. What's on your mind? What are you thinking about with Hot D with last season, this coming season, season three? like, what are your thoughts? Okay. I do not, for the life of me,

understand why, like, half of this fandom, I'm not even going to say half, because I think half is insane. But a lot of people from this fandom were like, oh my God, they're putting prophecy and everything. Literally, what book have you read?

What book are you reading? What are you reading? Like, brad prophecy is, it is fun and it is a good, arguably even like when you spell like a great device and I'm having fun with prophecy. I'm having a blast with it. Yeah. I love it.

I love it. And I think as far as like a song of ice and fire goes and this universe goes, prophecy has been like one of the engines of this universe. And specifically House Targaryen has been molded and formed. True. And destroyed by prophecy. And not even just House Targaryen, but like character. There's like Circe with the Maggie the Frog prophecy.

Like it shapes a lot of who she is. So I just didn't Stanis. Ranera slash Janaris with, but Stanis, you know, like same character. Jojin. Jojin. Bran. I've heard of him. Honestly, I think that they're just like, they're making up for, I guess, like, if anything,

Game of Thrones just didn't have enough prophecy. No, they didn't. They didn't have the juice. They said it. They said like, oh, we wanted this to appeal to football players. So we took out a lot of the magical things. Which is like, I don't know, kind of ridiculous. Because I know some football players, and they would have, they would love prophecy.

Yeah. I mean, they're told prophecy from a young age. They're like told you're going to be great someday, kid. Like, and that's literally, I'm not even trying to make a joke, but it is kind of hysterical. So you can laugh if you want, but like sports people are. They love superstition and like that's who the Targaryans are. That's what I think is so fun about this show because it's like, hey, what if every character was being influenced by a prophecy that they thought was about themselves? And then you flash forward and it's like, hey, that's also a swath.

Yeah. And I know so many people like that aren't book readers that like just watch the different series. A Night of Seven Kingdoms, House of the Dragon, Game of Thrones. They love House of the Dragon. Like House of the Dragon is the one they want to see. Like they like all of them, but House of the Dragon is their favorite. And like for me, House of the Dragon is my favorite. Like I love a night.

I love a Night of the Seven Kingdoms. Don't get me wrong. But it's not House of the Dragon. It's not. I don't think they need to be compared. But for me, it's House of the Dragon. Yeah, but if we are comparing. I'm not going to compare one girlie to another.

That's not right. But if I was to compare, yes, House of the Dragons. gets the emotion, right? Like, that's what I really feel is like, it doesn't even matter if the dialogue's not perfect in a scene or if they're not quoting something from the books or if they're taking their own spin. The emotion is always there in the ambition. They try.

Like, say what you will about Condole and Hess, but they try and, like, they interpret. And the emotion of, like, a feast for crows and a dance with dragons is in every episode. I feel the spirit with me in every episode. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. When I saw in the last season of the House of the Dragon, when I saw the green man, what would I think is a green man, like walk behind the tree. I was like, you know what, Ryan Condal, I fuck with you.

I like you. I'm sorry. I don't care when nobody says about you, not even George. Like, I like you. And I love George. I fuck with him heavy. I love him, but I fuck with Ryan too. I'm a girl's girl, you know.

Yeah. We don't have to draw any lines. We can... Yeah, we don't got to compare them either. Yeah. We don't have to compare them. Also, like, I'm sorry. But the scene of like, you know, bringing in prophecy for the series' death, like, that was a move.

That was a fun. It was fun. That was fun. I know, like, it made everything really messy, but, like, that was drama. Yeah. Absolute cinema, as they say. Well, anyone can tell the story of fire and blood how they want to, right? Like, I think about, I watch the tutors.

Yeah, right? The Days of Our Lives, Jehara's show is the best one, in my opinion, for sure. But, like, he's the Stephano of it all. Oh, I meant like, I'm 12 Angry Men. Oh, 12 Angry Men, that's also good for your Green Council. But also, like, when you think about Fire and Bold, like, anyone could do it. And I think about the Tudors. And I like the Tudors, but it's a little clinical.

It's a little sterile. I think about rain in comparison to the tutors. Rain is not a great show. But I love it. Like, hold on. It's not a great show. It's not historically accurate, really. There's drama that's invented to keep you watching.

There is prophecy put into a bunch of stuff because Nostradamus is at court. So, like, you know, Nostradamus be prophesying. He's got prophecy. They get better throughout the seasons, but honestly, season one is like, it looks like they're wearing prom dresses. Like, but also the needle drops are amazing. The music's really good. And the drama keeps you going.

The acting's amazing. The people are good. So I like, I think of it kind of like that in some aspects for like Tudors is fine or the Wolf Hall show. It's fine, but it's so clinical and sterile and there's no emotion. So I don't know. I think that, I'm not saying it's like rain, but. Have you watched like the ones on stars like the white princess, the white queen?

Oh, it's so good. Yeah. Those are good. Those are good. Yeah. Yeah. I'm also really into, oh my God, what's the one? I've watched a lot of magnificent century.

Have you watched Magnificent Century? It's like Ottoman Empire, Turkish, harem show. Oh, my God. It's amazing. I've watched every show that they've made gifts on Tumblr and called it Elia Martel is what I'm trying to say. You know, like, I've watched them all. I've seen a lot of Acewaffe fancasts on Tumblr.com and the tags.

That's that how you got on Tudor? The Tudors? Because you saw Robert Barathean Gifts. Yeah, and his eight fucking different variations of Henry Cavill. No, you know what? Actually, I watched that one after finishing rain like twice. And I was like, okay, I guess we can watch the Tudors. I've never watched it.

I've literally hadn't. I've seen rain like 80 times. But it's not a good show. Oh, it's an amazing show, but it's not good. No, it's not good at all. But you should watch. Okay. Have you heard of Ginny and Georgia?

Yes. It's like the Ginny and Georgia of medieval shows. Okay. And I love it. It's not good, but it's great. It's like how we were talking about how much we love Riverdale yesterday. It's like Riverdale. Yeah.

It's like it's just fabulous. But I think I really truly and honestly think a Jahris-Alassan show about their kids like that would be great. Oh, I want it. Like I think like I think that one actually could be really good. Yeah. I think they should make it like euphoria. Yeah. Sam Levinson's next work is going to be the Jeharis and Al-A-San show.

Oh, my God. Wow. And we don't want, we don't really want anything from Jeharson, Allison, except for them doing things in the background. We want to focus on the kids. Like conceiving. They just need to keep it busy with the parts, you know? Wait, new pitch.

Seventh Heaven, but Cherries and Allison. Oh, my God. We have found it. You're incredible at this. HBO needs to hire us. But especially you, Eliana. And then Jehrys talks about God. Wow.

And I don't know. Wait, isn't Seventh Heaven the one where like, I don't know. Wait, that actually does make sense for them though. Yes, it literally does. Because it wasn't like the sister like, can you teach me how to kiss or something to her brother? Was that Seventh Heaven? And I'm like, that actually does make sense for the Targaryens shit. I'm really obsessed with this.

You from three years ago would be. so proud of you today. It's incredible. That's probably true. How's that for a fucking prophecy? I'm going to send it back. I'm going to like appear in my dream back then. Well, so, Gray, you've been proven right. How does that feel about Damon Tardarian? Multiple times in your life, but like especially widely, very proudly, like, you have for a very

long time theorized that Damon becomes a green seer in his time in Heron Hall and out of Karen Hall and maybe goes with the green men and survives because his body's never found. So like, how does it feel being right? It feels great when this great area. No, tell us. Tell us. Yeah, great area. So you have to understand that, like, I was getting a lot of people like that were like

in my comments, you're stupid. This is the dumbest theory that I've ever heard. Like this makes absolutely no sense. So when Damon touched that tree, like he was Bran and saw Blood Raven and the White Walkers, I was like, it wasn't even before that when he ate the Weirwood concoction. The paste that Alice Rivers gave him. I was like, screeching. I know you're fucking lying. Like, I know you're fucking lying.

And then when he sees DeNaris, I'm like, oh my God, Azora High confirmed. at the same time, like, what? But the theory itself, like, it started because, okay, his body is missing. It's never found. And then it happens to be, like,

in the God's eye, by the Isla faces. And then, like, just the commonalities between Blood Raven and Damon. Like, do you know how, there's so many? Like, they both wield Dark Sister. Damon is Blood Raven's great-grandfather. They both like fit that hero villain archetype They both disappeared and are presumed dead

Blood Raven gets sent to the wall for killing his nephew Damon kills his nephew They're both kinslayers they both kill their nephews Blood Raven is known for being like with his sister Shira She's like half-lisini And then Damon is with Masaria who is Lysini And they're both considered like witches they're both commanders

like Damon is the commander of the city watch Blood Raven is the commander of the Knights watch they both fight in Targary and Civil Wars for the rightful air they have so much in common and then I just to me it was like why would this selfish man just sacrifice himself?

Why would he do that? And I think it was like for a greater purpose and to become something better I don't even know if I feel like he could have just been a broken Damon. He's lost Caraxies and the green men are like, huh, we can do something with you. You can have a better, a greater purpose. Oh, kind of Sandor vibes. Yeah.

Broken man shit with Sandor. And then like also I'm going to offer something terrible, not to give you trauma flashbacks to season eight, but like also every time that he's on screen right now. in season two in my rewatch with my roommate will be sitting there watching and he comes on and I'm like, why have I chosen to love a hateful woman? Oh, oh, it's coming. Their breakup is coming. Like their end breakup. Well, it'll be one-sided for both of them, but, you know.

So in my theory, and I know like people hate this theory that leaf and nettles might be the same person. I love the theory. But I think the theory actually makes sense. Like she tells Bran, I walk your world during the time of the dragon. And then there's secret tree towns that we know that we learn about that are all under these weird woods. I think there's probably one in Heron Hall, one in the veil.

But the relationship that they describe that Damon has with the Nettles, I don't think it is a like lover type relationship. I don't think it's a daughter type relationship. I think it's like a teacher student. Like they're both teaching each other different things. So I think that they, in season two, they kind of, we don't have Nettles. So they did it with Alice Rivers, where she's like showing him. Like they talk about Damon like brushing Nettles' hair and things like that.

And I'm just like, hmm. Interesting. Why would he be brushing her hair? Why, like, why would he be buying her clothes and things like that? Like, it's just weird. But what really made it weird was the reaction that Caraxis has when they separate and maiden pool. And I'm like, hmm, this is like, something's going on here. So I think that she might have introduced him to some weird stuff.

Yeah. Some weird, weird wood stuff. Strange matching Wait, so are you saying that Nettles is the teacher for Damon? Mm-hmm. Yeah, he's the servant. And he's the servant. And he gives her gifts.

That's fun. He's also teaching her too. He's teaching her human ways. So he's teaching her like buying her mirror, buying her a brush, buying her thing. Like the little mermaid. Yeah. Kind of. Like she's the mermaid.

He's like, here's a toothbrush. This is how do you use it? Like that kind of, that kind of relationship. But I think like we always. always talk about Blood Raven and I know a lot of people are like, but, but Gray, he doesn't have any blood of the first men in him and he needs that. And I'm just like, to me, I don't think George separates these things neatly like that. Like, this magic is this magic and can only do with this and this can only do. I think it's all one source and how it's utilized is just different.

Yeah. Yeah. It's one. cool and they're drawing from it. I very much think that like all the math, like they all align. Like I mean, because I also think that in real life, I guess, about spirituality, right? Like we're all praying to something, whether it's a person, whether it's an idea. So I don't know. I think it's all one pool of magic. And I think George, like when with prophecy with George, he always says that he was inspired by memory sorrow and thorn. And I'm not going to give away. Like, I'm not going to spoil memory sorrow and thorn because I don't think that's in your spoiler clause and I don't want to spoil it for people that haven't read it, but if you haven't

read it, you should. George says that he was inspired by it and prophecy is treated very different than a normal series. So like, for DeNaris, I think George has clearly laid out for us that she is Azora High, but what he has not done is to let us know what that means. It does, it's It's not, I don't think it's something good. Like, she brought back dragons, but if she's to fulfill bringing on a summer that never ends, that's just as bad as a winter that never ends. That's not good. So I feel like he handles prophecy in a way, the sword without a help.

There's no safe way to grab this. And we've seen through like Targaryen history, me and Joe Magician just did like almost two hour podcast. episode on prophecy and like how it has destroyed house targaryen. So I think when we look at prophecy through that lens that it's not this save the world type of thing. And when people like the Targaryans constantly put their self into it and say, oh, this is about me.

I need to do this. I need to kidnap this stark girl. Well, not kidnap. I need to get this start girl and have a baby on her. I actually need to have three kids. And they, like, it never ends well. Yeah. Yeah, because they keep dying.

They keep fucking dying. It's very, like, Greek tragedy, right? Like, with the whole irony around it of, like, we give you this prophecy and you keep trying to avoid it, but in doing so, like, you fulfill it or, like, I don't know, things like that. Okay, wait, quick thing. Since we're talking about, like, magic all being, like, the same source and stuff, do you think, we might have, like, discussed this before, but I don't remember

Do you think that, like, Azora High, the prince that was promised and the last hero are all the same or they are different? I think the last hero might be different. But I think the prince that was promised in Azora High are the same thing. Okay. Mm-hmm. I agree with that. I do agree with that. Because like Azora High is different for the last hero.

The last hero is, it's like similar. But to your point, like, I do think there's a translation, right? where it's like similar stories through different languages and that's where you get a Zora High being like the chosen one in several different things. But the last hero does feel very different. And maybe it's also because it feels much more oriented with the north and also with like the every man in some aspects.

Like more with the broken man even. I'm not saying the broken man is a mythological character because look fucking around you. They're everywhere in the story. You're the broken man. Everyone is the broken man. I think that's the theme. But yeah.

Yeah, we all are the broken man. I know there are theories out there that like those harcun, the hero, Eldrick Shadow Chaser, the monkey tail lady, like they're all connected in some way and they might overlap in certain areas. But I do agree with you, Chloe,

the last hero. Oh, interesting. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I like that. That helps them fill the same thing. Yeah. In a way, their own cultural thing.

Mm-hmm. Well, and it's fun because the last time we recorded with you would have been after season two episode eight when that was also revealed. For hot D. Yeah, for Hot D. Of the confirmation that DeNaris is Azora High was re-iterated to everybody. So that's good. The John Snow fans fucking lost.

lost it. Oh my God, they lost their fucking minds. They were so butt hurt. Like, straight up, there's no other word but hurt. This is so disrespectful to John Snow. Is it? I don't think it is. Like, you don't understand him if you think that. No, you don't. Like, to me, John Snow being a Targaryian is not important. Like, it's important, but it's not important. Like, what's important to me when it comes to John is everything that makes him a stark, everything that he is. Like, Ned's kid, because in my, like, he's, I don't, listen, I don't believe Ned N plus A equals J or none of that shit.

Like, I believe R plus L equals J, but Ned raised him. Yeah. And it's, that's his daddy. Yeah, that's his dad. And because of the way Ned raised him, that's who he is. And who he is is is way more important than his blood. blood. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't think blood matters like everyone thinks that it matters. I think George basically makes a mock of that, like in the story that these Targaryans think their blood is so

special, like, but they keep killing, they keep killing theirself trying to fulfill these prophecies. And killing each other and killing off what makes them special. And then like, also, can I say something even crazier and take it a step further that like I agree that Ned and the Stark Blood is important to him and who he like was but also to take it a step further I think it's actually more important that he gets to be who he is yeah on his own because like it's always been a battle it's like that's the flipping coin for John Stark Targary and Stark Targaryen stark Targaryen who am I he doesn't even know that but like the who am I that he doesn't know and it's actually like it's like Quentin like men's lives have meaning, right?

Not their deaths. Who you are is who you are when you live and what you choose to do. Like Eagrit said, you know, living. First we'll live. I think that John being a Targaryen matters more for like, you know, just character development for himself. Plot. And plot.

Yeah. Yes. Oh, my aunt. Oh, shit. But it'll be fine. For John, like, for John Snow, and people get so mad at me when I say, this. But for John, I feel like George is like, okay, he's a man. And sometimes just being a man raised by Ned Stark is a power. Like that he had, there's value in that. You know what I mean? Like he does not have to be this prophesized hero from legend to be important. We see him doing everything that he needs to do. Like we see him. Um, we see him, um, making common cause with the wildlings.

Like we see him leading the Knights Watch. We see him doing things that he thinks is right. Like protecting Alice Carstark, like not like keeping his vow to the Knights Watch. When he really all his life wanted to be Lord of Winterville, he still keeps his vow because he swore this to a heart tree. And he doesn't take that lightly. And all of those qualities that he has, makes him a good... Yeah, his, uh,

John's like determination and just like the value. I mean, like, you're introduced to the Starks as your family, as your protagonist family. Ned is your protagonist. He is the good guy in the story. He's like, the level, right? Which is something fun about Hot D and that like,

we have not many of those. They tried to make Vassaris kind of that even level. But I think that's unhinged and fun when we watch Hot D. Like, there is no level. Yeah. Yeah, you're all like, Alison. What are you doing? You're like, everyone's like, no, Vissaries.

What are you doing throughout the first season? But I feel like that is, which I actually just recorded a video on the Winter Wolves, but I feel like the biggest you should be swearing filthy to Rainierra is that the Starks do. Like, that's your moral compass right there. I mean, like. Like, of course they did. I just think, yeah, no, we should absolutely be swearing. feel to Rinear.

I think it's like interesting the route that they took. Like how do you feel about it taking Damon to see a prophecy to finally be like, all right, I guess I'll support my wife. So I did not love that.

I'm not going to lie. So the Heron Hall stuff had me a little. So when they had him fuck his mom, I was like, get me the fuck out of Heron Hall right now. Like, what the fuck? What are we doing?

So I think that was the episode where I was like, what is even going on? But when, so when you're watching something week to week, it doesn't always make sense until you get to the end. So once, if you watch it back, it's clean. Like, it's good. But week to week, I was just like, why is he still there? Like, is he really deciding, like, instead of making up with my wife,

I'm going to fix Harren Hall. Like, I'm going to repair Harren Hall instead of talking to my wife. Like, is that what we're doing? Because he was, like, making repairs. He was outside with a hammer and a nail. With a drill. With a drill. Making fucking repairs to heroin haul.

Like, what? So I was thrown for a loop with that. I didn't really love that because in my head canon. But that's the thing. Like, we read fire and blood, but we never have, like, we have, like, a paragraph of what Damon was doing in the Riverlands. Yeah. So they have to fill all that in. They have to fill all that in of what's going on in the Riverlands.

So I didn't like love it at first, but on rewatch, I did actually like it. Yeah. I think like it. The arc makes sense to an extent. And also I'm just like, you know, he did very much like love this series, right? So he had like this difficult relationship with Rainira because of that. and I think maybe initially seeing her as an extension of him, but it also makes me think of how you were talking about those comparisons

between Blood Raven and Damon. Like Blood Ravens, like I had a brother that I loved. Mm-hmm. Right? And like for Damon, I think that was Viseries. Yeah, and he even very much did. He even sees Crip Viseris in Heron Hall. Yes.

We just watched that episode at home. Yes. And you know, another interesting thing is Rayneira, it's actually, so I think the show was trying to show that Raynera was ready to put down her claim. Like she was ready to go off into the sea when she met with Alicent in the set. And Allison was like, your father changed his mind. Like, I swear this on the memory of my mother. So she, Raynera is like believing that, oh, well, maybe he changed his mind. And then she talks about Agon's dream. And she's like, wait, he said those words to you.

like he said, he told you of Agon's dream. And it's right after that that she tells Jace. And she's like, well, I didn't believe it at first. I mean, I didn't know what it was or whatever. When she comes back to Dragonstone and she's sending the Dragons to War, that's when she makes her decision when she realizes that he died with the prophecy on his, like remembering the prophecy. Yeah.

Literally on his chest. changed her too because that is what ultimately led her to go ahead and send dragons to war. Yeah, because that is a big choice. You can't I mean, it's like what Doren says to Rien, right? Like, once

loose, you cannot call them back. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And it's interesting that both of those brothers, right, from that generation were Sears. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Just because, like, what? Bissary's had dreams as well. His, like, his path into the magic, right? Different.

different than demons. So that's kind of fun. So I'm going to come to the trailer for a second. What do you think, like, in the trailer might be from a prophecy? Helena given birth. Yeah, what was that about? So I know it looks like Helena. I know it looks like Helena.

But I don't think it's Helena. I think it is, or it may be Helena, but she's playing someone else. and only the audience watching it will know. And I think it may be Ralea. Oh, interesting. Yeah. Because, okay. I didn't realize people thought that was Helena.

I actually thought it was Emma at the first. They all look the same. They, like, are all inbred. Which is so good. I kind of figured it was, like, her having a vision. So the actors... I like the idea of being Ralella. Or maybe like Amon having a vision.

So I think it's Amon having a vision. And I think he's going to think it's Helena. And I think he has that dagger with him at Harenhall in the trailer. And that dagger says, from my blood comes the prince that was promised. So I don't know if he's going to put that vision together. I think it's going to be Rayella, either giving birth at Summerhall to Rhagar or birth to Rayneris. Rayneris. Rayneris.

Same thing. Same thing. It is the same. Danaris. And I think he's going to think like it's the birth of the prophesized one and it's going to come from Helena. And I think the way that Alice might get pregnant is she might look like Helena. Like you know how like Damon was having sex with his mom?

But it was like a vision. Yeah. What if she mind fucks Amy? like that. Well, she's wearing, the shot of her in the trailer that we got, if you look at it, the outfit she's wearing has one of Allison's cunty little belly chains on it. And the sleeves are also very alicent. So like that to me also said that she's either a really stepping up her sewing game in order to seduce Aman to look like his mommy or she's doing it in her visions. You know, she's Wanda visioning it. Yeah. I love when Alice goes all Wanda vision on the boys. So I do think

that and that's what I thought Helena would be too is like that's a vision but also maybe she's showing him and I think of like Damon's visions right of the things that he wants but he's never said out loud and that's what she showed him she showed him you know thinking about the crown and Reneiro chiding him for it from her younger guiltier version right whenever he saw her it was her younger version for the most part it was him beheading the younger version of Reneira the Reneer he left behind the Rina he feels guilt about um to like conquer all that guilt. So like he also saw his mommy, right? We saw Alyssa. Shout out Ryan Condal. I ain't ever going to stop being your fan. Like we saw Alyssa Targaryen and a vision. It doesn't

fucking matter what she looked like. That really is stupid. Like we just, it's an extra. But why did she have to be fucking her son? Because that's what Damon, like, but that's them. Bro, like that's them with their little fucking house family wreath. They don't have a tree. They have a wreath. Like it's all weird. Like think of Viserus in the ownership he felt over DeNaris's body because that's just what he's been guaranteed for generations of Targaryen. So like all the lines are blurred and they're all disgusting and it's amazing. But of course, Amon's going to have his mommy issues at Heron Hall. It's like the home of mommy issues. Of course he's going to think about Helena since, you know, like, what did

Helena say when she talked about Amund and Agan with one of her many like word puzzles slash semi-profacies, right, that the other wants what the other has, you know, so they want to take it. He's going to see that shit. He's going to see Helena probably birthing his kid is what I think, which is Mailer. You know, Mailer was, I'm just kidding.

I'm so sorry. But they do die all at the same time. I think like... I mean, they did cast Sir Rick Arthorn. D? Alice is just kind of like, she's, and I love and respect this about her, she's a little bit of a troll, right? She's just kind of

trying to inflict a little bit of psychic damage maybe, just for fun, which is why she's bored. Yeah, no, I'd be fucking bored too. And, you know, she's why she's like, yeah, it's your mom. And then also why when Damon makes up, he's like, why asking her things? And she's like, at his bed. Like, that was weird. That was weird behavior on her part, but I love that she did it. Like, that was. And he was so confused. She's just fucking shit up. No, I would be confused to it. I'd be like, girl, why are you here? Right?

And she's like crying and holding the candle. She's like, she's like, come. Anyways. Very excited to see Alice and Amon's interactions. Yes. I'm curious what it'll be like. They're going to make each other worse.

I love it. And I do think like it is interesting. Like if he is seeing it as Helena as like that's what he wants. But I also, again, didn't realize that people thought that was Helena. I thought that was just a different person. So the actress that plays. that place Helena had posted it and people were like, well, she posted it. But like, she's also hilarious and does stuff like that. But trailers are supposed to be misleading. Like, that's

yeah. If, if Helena was going to have a baby on the show, why the hell would they put that in the trailer? Is that like a shocker? Like, have we seen Dehron Targary? No, they're hiding him. Because they love hiding Darren. They love hiding them. They did it with Night of the Southern Kingdom. to. Yeah, they're hiding him, honey. They're not going to tell us. They're not going to tell whatever, whatever it is, it's there to mislead us for sure. Yeah. Darren's kind of fun to, I mean, that's one of their biggest sins, right? There's like three cinema sins. Nettles, Darren, like, they're racking them up a couple at a time here. There are a couple, but Ryan Condell, keep doing you, baby. Like, I'm so proud of you. That said, like, Darren's interesting, right?

because he's like the only good one of the three boys. But I'm curious to see if he gets entangled in any prophecy or if the whole point of him is the opposite, right? That like he was good and didn't need a prophecy to be good or do good. Right. Like he like was just the good boy who didn't have prophecy and was like, these people are fucking nuts. Yeah. Well, he's going to be at Tumbleton. Right.

So I'm curious like there's a prophecy there. There's a prophecy there. I love how he hates you. Talk about him really much. It's that kid that we know. But yeah. Yeah, it's interesting. So they're like ending the season with that, I think.

Right? It seems that it's going to be towards the end of the season, the big battle. It seems like they are. Which is like you have to be able to do the first one to have the second one. So if fourth season is the last season, right. Like that's just how successive works here. So if the fourth season's the last season, like so when's the next Tubbleton? like first quarter

What if they consolidate it? What if they consolidate it all to one? But you have to have second tunnel to me because how do they break? Yeah, how do all of the people die? All the dragons die. Yeah, I mean, I don't think that they should consolidate it. I'm just saying they might. Like Renira overthrown instead and like put it all into Ranira

overthrown and make it a huge fucking spectacle. Like Winds of Winter season six style. I don't think they realistically are. are going to be able to finish this in four seasons. I know they, I know they have said that they are, but please don't repeat the same mistakes of Game of Thrones. Oh, they're going to.

Don't. They're going to. Give it. Like, how do you, how do you, if you're ending with first Tumbledon, how do you do second Tumbledon, how do you do God's eye,

how do you do Rainier's death, how do you do the hour of the wolf how do you do any of the like the dragon pit you're going to do all that in one season you don't have they don't have that kind of budget and that's what's going to happen so they're going to have to extend it to another season I love the way you think you're so cute you're the cutest I think it'd be fun to have more seasons no they're going to get fucked they're going to not be able to do that and then everyone's going to be like I told you I told you. I told you Ryan Condom not do this. I told you Ryan Condom. That's literally what's going to happen. They're going to be like, Ryan Condal and Sarah Huss are wild and bra bra bra bra bra bra bra bra bra bra.

So a little bit of honesty here. Like I love House of the Dragon, but I can tell you if they fumble House of the Dragon. Fumbleton. If they fumble. If they fumble House of the Dragon, I feel like the IP. even with like Game of Thrones,

ending the way it did, it was still a very valuable IP, which was why you got to show like House of the Dragons, like this big budget, big scale. Right. So if you manage to fumble House of the Dragon, I feel like your IP starts,

it will lose value. Because people, like House of the Dragon is the second try, right? people love Dunkin Egg too but Duncan Egg is not in my opinion like It's not big enough

It's not big enough It's not like House of the Dragon is your headliner You don't gamble with it Like I like the risk that they take Like as far as deviating from fire and blood And changing things and like Well this is the story that we're telling Because George R. Martin kind of said

Choose your own story I mean like he did take that back. We talked about that on the prophecy episode with Matt. Like he did walk that back. But it started out as you can choose your own adventure. And then when he started choosing his own adventure, George got a little mad.

But you, like maybe that will fucking teach you, huh? Maybe you should decide and not give us three different versions and tell us to pick one. Like maybe we don't need fucking freedom. Like maybe we're stupid as shit. Have you thought about that, George?

Jesus. Tell us what you want to know. But I do feel like they have to nail House of the Dragon. Like they have to have a good cohesive ending that doesn't feel rushed. That doesn't feel like something is missing. And without a lot of those pieces that exist, it will feel like that. You can't just go from God's eye Battle of God's Eye can't be your penultimate episode and then we end. But also, like, you can't, like, that's real. But to that point, like, you can't have a show without Rainira for long. Like, you have maybe one episode tops after Ranira's death, straight up.

Well, I thought that's why we're making Raina into nettles. Like, we're combining nettles and Raina, so we get a 10. to these other characters like with Ned Stark So Vikings did this thing I don't have you guys watched Vikings I did not I know that it's like fun and good So they did this thing where they have this main character

Ragnar is great And then They build up his sons but they waited too long to build up his sons So where like when he dies it's like Okay enough with the show With Rainira, I feel like there's a lot of other characters around her. Like, where when Ned Stark dies, we still watch Game of Thrones. When Rob Stark dies, we still watch Game of Thrones because there's all these other characters around.

So, like, maybe give Bela more than five lines. Maybe give Raina more screen time. Maybe build up Egon the third right now. Allison. Yeah. Listen, she's around. She's going to carry the end. Yeah. She has to carry the end. I mean, her last scene is going to be devastating, right? If it's anything like the books. Maybe they're going to have, like, they've already been doing, I think, a good job of building Egan the Second's character and, like, making him really complex. And like, I think if you, if they do a good job of doing that, yeah, he sucks, like, as a person. But, like, I do think, like, Tom Glincarney is, like, acting the hell out of it.

and you can carry it through with like him struggling there at the end. He doesn't even have to kill her right away. Put her in a cell. Like it put her in a room, confine her to a tower, like, Oh, let her have like the John Snow moments from season eight. Well, we actually don't see them talk that much and interact that much throughout the show, right? And like she has such vehemence for him and the way that Allison's like defending him, right? I think it could actually be really powerful to have those moments of them, like, interacting.

Yeah. Because they've never really done that. Yeah. It would be a fan's dream for sure. For sure. Or it'll be everybody saying it was the worst thing they've ever seen. It never happens in the book. And that never happens in the books. But we don't know that they've done it.

Yeah, we don't know. I feel like it absolutely could have happened in the book is a thing. Yeah. I hope that this happens now just so George can put a blog post out and be like, They never meet in the book, but the performances were very compelling from J.R.C. and Glyn Carney. Can you hear it now? Can you read it? With like the alien emoji as his mood. Which alien emoji will he do? The one that vibrates, maybe, the green one vibrating. I don't know.

Excited or whatever. I love Papa. You know, I really thought he's okay. I do love him. Yeah. You love George. Yeah. I love him so much. Also, like, back to him. what you were saying, Gray, like, it's going to be so juicy when Amon looks at the dagger and thinks it's about him. It's going to be so juicy the more characters that, like, show up and think everything's about them when it's not. I love that. I think that's so Targaryen. It's so Targaryen. That is kind of what's fun then about, like, the way that prophecy acts in Damon's character, right? Because the prophecy finally tells Damon, it's not about you. Which is like usually,

like, usually works the opposite for everyone. So I think like that is, actually, like, that is actually actually really interesting. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. And I like that it's going to give him the time to like also build up trust for Reneira and maybe give the time for Reneer to, you know, like, lose that trust in what she does. And I think there's something also really interesting in that we're starting to get all these other Targaryans in on the prophecy one by one, right? We told Jace last season. Amon's probably going to find out. I'm sorry, but we've been talking about it for like years. Like he's going to find out about it. It's all set up. Season two led us there. Agan, no somewhat about the prophecy.

Like, there's all these things coming to a head, and Reneura is actually taking, instead of just the prophecy, she's saying that gods are ordaining me to do this job, which I find fascinating of leaning into, like, you know, I mean, that's what saved the Targaryens in a lot of ways is, like, bending the knee to the faith, but not bending the knee, like, being like, oh, yes,

we agree with the faith of the seven. So she's really saying, all the gods want me to be on this throne, which I don't know. I don't really think prophecies are from the gods personally when I read these books. So that's weird to me. What do you think? So I have this theory that Rainerra is going to become obsessed with prophecy and the gods.

And when she's saying the gods, like we touched on this a little bit, me and Matt when we were talking. But like, she's, I think she's going to bring back dragon worship. Like she talks about like that scene that she has with Vermethor like where she walks or she walks up to him and she touches them and then she like has that smirk on her face. And then she does like this big ass blood sacrifice here. Eat all these fucking people. And I'm just going to sit here and watch from my theater box. Like it was super weird. But we know that dragon skulls like end up lining the throne room.

in Kings Landing. Robert Barathean is the one that has them all removed. We know that Maly's head was just brought back to Kings Landing. I know. So rude the way they did it. But that's exactly it, right? Like they're doing the wrong thing. Yeah.

So I feel like, like they said there was a boy standing with Hugh the Hammer. And he was like, I thought the dragons were gods. he's like, though, they're just meat or something like that because they saw the dead dragon. But there's a, there's a scene in, I think it's episode eight of season one where like Damon and Rainierra, they come back to Kings Landing and they're like, why, like this doesn't even look like our house. Like Allison has put all these stars and like, I don't know, faith of the seven. Like they're not even in the public.

Yeah, the faith of the seven statues. He was like, oh, did the king tell you to remove all the Targaryen haeraldry and replace it with statues and stars? So I think that when Rainier goes to Kingsland and she's going to start redecorating. Yeah. And like she's going to embrace like full dragon lord, like full chosen one. Like it's going to be brutal. It's going to be brutal. It's going to be darky.

I love it. I'm excited for it. I'm like, get it. You know what I mean? let's do it let's just do it let's just have you go so extreme yeah love it I'm like who wouldn't feel that way with the way that you know like both Damon are like yo it's you I saw you in the dream and then also Mizaria she's been like she's playing a sort of melisandra as a school in a way of stoking that kind of thing and like that's the thing like I don't know why people are not jazzed

about there being prophecy because like prophecy gives such a juicy character development right of how each person reacts to it yes yes And especially for Rainier, like, I mean, on the rewatch, we watch season one within like a week, week and a half. And you watch season one and I'm sorry, you get to the end of season one. And when she turns around with her suffering, like when Vagar eats Luke, which, to be fair, sick scene. Like, such a good scene. Rewatching that, I was like, God, this scene fucks. It shows so good when Vagar's over top like that.

Oh, yeah. Chomp, chomp, bitch. Like that moment when it breaks and you know it's over. It's so good. It was like, that sorrow. Like, when you see that, you're like, it's just like Tyrion's quote about DeNaris that I quote way too much. How fucking not.

How not? How would you not like flock to her side? Of course, I'm here to die for the dragon queen. Oh my God. I can't wait for them. Winter wolves. Yeah, baby. I'm so hyped.

Black Allie. Like, come on. Yes. She won a bit. Also, y'all might be here for the first lesbians, but I'm here for the second lesbians. I'm still holding out for like Sabbatha. You know, like, I think. I think they could show up.

And Sam. I will say, I just realized, like, in regards to, like, how prophecy works, like, maybe that's part of what drives Amon and Alice together. Like, he's using, he's trying to see if, like, Alice can help him escape the prophecy that Helena gave him. Oh, yeah. You're going to die. Egan's going to be, has yet to taste victory, you know? And I'm like, oh.

That was a lot. That was a lot to say. Yeah, she's like a literal weird. Like a tree. She went from like, beast, there's a beast beneath the boards to you will die on December 31st, 2007. I love that for her. Good for her. She's just like really being straightforward about it.

She's not beating around the bushes anymore. You know, she doesn't have time. No, yeah. I'm hyped for whatever she gives this season. Like, she's going to say some cryptic shit, and I'm going to be like, yes, get it. Good for you. And then maybe die. So that's terrible.

You think they'll kill her off in season three? No, I don't know. I think they might wait till the beginning of season four, to your point. They have to keep it going as long as they can. Contracts. You know, like, you can't just kill all your mains. Yeah. I just feel like there is a,

enough left that season four, Rainier doesn't need to die. Like, season five, she can die. That's really fair. And I can't wait to talk to you like five years from now to discuss season four, episode seven or episode six when Reinererrida dies. Well, maybe what they'll do, what I could see them doing, because I don't know who normalized eight, eight episode seasons that happened HBO normalized it, bro. I hate it. I'm so mad. I hate it. I hate it. Still, all the time.

They might, maybe they could make season four, like 14 episodes. Like, take the two from season two, the two from season three, and smack it on to four. And then you get another four hours additional to tell the story. I don't know. Yeah. Or like, they do like a mid-season break. This has become popular in like some, I know, like, Abbott does it. which is a wildly different show and also they've been doing it in anime as well where they'll split up a season between like in the middle and be like this is all the same season

the first half is coming out like right now then like four months six months later we're delivering the second half I guess so that gives them like time I get it I mean realistically the hope is that we get we keep getting really good quality by taking this time and the other thing is like actor schedules

and the cost of having actors that are big with schedules, like not to bring euphoria up, but I look at euphoria and like half of the main cast couldn't record with each other because of schedules, because they're filming like three other things. And the economy has been crushed. Like you look like we know that. Like we look around us and we know that,

but that economy is crushed too. You can't like just fly actors everywhere overnight and people are choosing roles differently based on that. Like they're choosing on, what's best for them, not like burning themselves 100% out. They're choosing smartly about what they're filming. So I don't know. It's, um, I get it.

I really get that you need the time to make something that quality and the strike didn't help it reset the industry completely. You know, like COVID and the strike in general, really the writer's strike and COVID like just reset how things are done. Like nothing's going. I mean, and I won't docks our jobs, but I think in all of our jobs, we all see like nothing's gone back to the same. nothing's gone back to the same for them either.

Yeah. I think we would be able to like revisit it once we see where season three ends and how much, and how much story we have left because. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Let's see. Let's see.

Each week, I guess, we'll all know, I guess. We'll check it. Yeah. That's what'll be happening. It'll be on the TV. And then I'll be like, I'll be like, distraught. Yeah. Because I don't want like.

I honestly, like all of us, we make content around House of the Dragon and the Song of Ice Empire and we love these universes and series like this. So I've always rooted for Ryan Condal specifically because he was a fan of the series. Yeah. So I've always rooted for him. But I'm also rooting for this universe in general, one, because I make content around it. But I don't like, I want to be. able to see more fantasy on TV. Like I want to be able

to see more big budget series and in order for that to happen we need successful ones and don't get me wrong I'm not saying like House of the Dragon is successful that's fucking wild to say like it's hugely successful but if you want it to

be the next the game of Thrones like don't try to end it like don't try to like don't try to end it Don't rush it. Yeah, don't rush it. Don't cut off two episodes in the middle of filming.

I mean, like, not even, like, it's all those things you said, but part of it is, like, we make content about it because, like, we love it. And I, like, legitimately do enjoy, you know, the fanfare and, like, the journey of it every single time it comes around. Like, I wildly enjoy, like, the stories that I consume. spend a lot of time thinking and talking about them. And no one can stand me with the exception of Chloe. And I can stand you. Yeah. And like, you understand that.

You're in it. You're in it. So. Yeah. We don't know. It's like, I just, I just get it. It's just like, I don't know. I understand.

It's just fun. It's just fun. I mean, obviously, I don't want something like drawn out to the point that it like jumps the shot. Yeah. No. No. That's definitely not.

I don't want them to like. Oh, let's just milk this for as much as we can get from it. No, just tell the story and end at a spot that doesn't feel like we didn't get the story. I don't feel like you can end at Rainier or dying. No. Don't worry. They're not going to end at it. They're going to give us one more episode.

And then it's going to be Agin 3 sitting down at the table after dismissing Torin Manderly, who's being introduced this season. And he's going to go, shall we? begin and then it's going to end. I'm just kidding. But what if I'm right? What if I'm right? We'll bookmark this.

Yeah, let's come back to this. Chloe's hot D prophecy. This is my prophecy. I'm telling you, it's going to be something. But I do think they're going to stick it either way. I think we're going to at least get an emotional ending. So one way or another, whether this next season or the season after or the season after, whatever it ends, I'll be here.

How long do you think, realistic? When can you, when do you think we can expect to get Agon's movie? It's got to be five years. That's right. If it happens, five years from now. Five years from now. Three to five. So I feel like, see.

It's got to be five. It's not going to end until right before that movie, like a year before that movie. Yeah, because they needed to bleed into one another so that they can use the hype from one to, like, market the next one. Yeah. It'll be 2031. 2030 or 2031. right at latest

we'll have released finally and we're looking at 2028 potentially for season 4 that's kind of crazy okay here's another thing same as how you were okay I agree that we should spend the amount of time that like it takes to produce make a big budget great visually stunning show and amazing story

but and like not rushing it but I also same as how we're like who normalized eight episode seasons why are we doing fucking two this is starting to become the norm for a lot of shows like two years I'm dying because it's expensive to make shows with people

I know it's entitled of me but I'm also just like what it well A they should just put more money into it they have the studios and the people they have the money but also me the mass the consumer I'm just like I mean we are dying I am dying.

I am starving. No, I'm not, that's not true. There's a lot of things to watch, like Twin Peaks, which, you know. Yeah, you're going to work on that. That's true. Yeah. Have you guys watched from? Not yet, but I want to.

I've heard really good things about it. What? I didn't catch it. From. No. I start, so I just started watching it. And it's really fucking good. God, I am so excited.

No matter how they. it. I'm excited to see season three. I think it's going to be bigger and more well planned out than, you know, than season two was allowed to be. That's not really their fault. Yeah. So I'm excited to see the scope of it and looking forward to all of your reactions. Every week, we will be touching base. Great. What are your closing thoughts on Hot D season three and what's to come? So my closing thought is that I'm blocking everyone that says hot D sucks. I'm blocking it. Yeah. I'm blocking. I'm blocking you. I'm going to enjoy.

I am going to enjoy hot D in peace. Though, I'm just kidding. I'm not going to block you. I'm just going to let it. I mean, protect your peace in 2026, right? Like, we're, again, as we said, like, we're in it because we enjoy it and like, don't yuck our yum. Whatever. Yeah.

Don't be a Debbie downer. Like, let us enjoy what we enjoy. We don't care about the same shit that you care about. I can't wait to watch this shit and hear your thoughts every week. If you're not following Gray, go check it out. Twitter, this gray area, YouTube, gray area. You have to subscribe, like, follow.

You've got to get all of the sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet juice that Gray will be serving during season three. Thank you so much for coming on to the first episode of season three. Thanks for having me. Thanks for being here for my promotion. Oh, my gosh. You've been promoting. It's not an elite employee. Everybody's being commoted.

We'll be back next week with our friend Alex, and we will be talking so much about Hot D, about the mothers in Hot D, I bet. I have a feeling that we're going to talk about the mothers and how they're mothering. So get ready for some Allison and Reneerah and all sorts of fun stuff. You can find us online. You can find us at our Twitter at Girls Gone Cannon, C-A-N-O-N-O-N. you can find us over at Blue Sky as well, same name, and patreon.com slash girls gone canon, C-A-N-O-N. Check it out.

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Thank you for coming on. again to our guest, Gray. Sorry, I got really tripped up there at the end. I'm so sick of it. Goodbye. Bye.