Girls Gone Canon Cast - Magical Girls Gone Canon Episode 2 — Sailormoon Crystal Season 2 featuring Chika of Shoujo Sundae

Episode Date: June 30, 2023

Magical Girls Gone Canon gets our first guest: Chika of Shoujo Sundae joins her powers with ours to save the day! An expert in shoujo (and shounen) anime and manga, she helps us break down the second season of Sailormoon Crystal and the Black Moon Clan arc while sharing her own history with the series. Where to Find Chika Chika's Twitter — https://twitter.com/ChikaSupreme Chika's Instagram — https://www.instagram.com/chikasupreme/ Chika's links — https://beacons.ai/chikasupreme Shoujo Sundae podcast links — https://linktr.ee/shoujosundae Shoujo Sundae Twitter — https://twitter.com/ShoujoSundae Shoujo Sundae Instagram — https://www.instagram.com/shoujosundae/ The Bong Joon-Ho Gif   BIG SPECIAL THANKS TO SANRIXIAN AND WARREN DUDSON FOR THIS IMAGE OF US AS MAGICAL GIRLS! --- Eliana's twitter: https://twitter.com/arhythmetric Eliana's reddit account: https://www.reddit.com/user/glass_table_girl Eliana's blog: https://themanyfacedblog.wordpress.com/ Chloe's twitter: https://twitter.com/liesandarbor Chloe's blog: www.liesandarborgold.com Intro: "Glitter Blast" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/      

Hello and welcome to Magical Girls Gone Canon Episode 2, Sailor Moon Crystal Season 2 featuring Chika. I am one of your hosts, Chloe. And I am another one of your hosts, Eliana. And yes, this magical Girls Gone Canon episode is super magical. We have a special guest swooping in to save the day. It's Chika from Shoujo Sunday, an expert on shoujo manga and anime. Hi, everybody. I'm so glad to be here here i'm so excited you're on chica finally uh our first guest for our sailor moon episodes and i think you're the perfect guest to have on i've been talking it up i've been like chica has the credentials i i don't watch as much anime anymore so i feel out of the loop and i'm really glad that we got time to bring you on oh thank

you so much for having me i feel like y'all are giving me a lot of praise. I don't know if it's all deserving, but I do love I do love shoujo. I do love anime. So this is definitely going to be a fun time. Tell us a little bit about shoujo sundae and what you've been covering. We've kind of we talked a little bit about it last time looking at what you've been covering, but what's new? What's coming up? Yeah, so Shojo Sunday is a podcast that aims to review and reflect on Shojo properties that deserve more attention than what they currently receive. We just do our best to cover different tv shows and films in hopes of creating conversation around them and getting more people to talk about shoujo love on shoujo join our community things of that nature and right now we just finished covering oran high school Club. So that has been so much fun.

And I think we have a special episode coming out. I can announce that here. It's a fanfic episode. That's the next thing that's coming out. Gianna wrote a fanfic based off of Gioia from Oron High School Host Club. And we sort of just read slash acted out. So we're very excited for that to come out.

And I think next month, yeah, July is going to be our podcast anniversary on the 17th. Congratulations. Thank you. It's our first year. Oh, wow. Yes. Yes. Our podcast is a cancer. And's our first year. Oh, wow. Yes, our podcast is a cancer.

And I don't know. I think we have something special coming out on our anniversary, that episode. So you guys, if you are interested in shoujo anime or interested in just shoujo Sunday in general, please tune in to our anniversary episode. You don't want to miss it. But yeah. Amazing. Yeah. Happy early anniversary. That's so exciting. please tune into our anniversary episode you don't want to miss it but yeah amazing yeah happy early anniversary that's so exciting and congrats on finishing yeah also that's like to get through what you guys wanted to set out to do with or and that's amazing yeah yeah yeah it was just fun i

feel like we've been talking about or on for a very long time well not just talking about this show but trying to get to it in general because it's Gianna and I's like one of our favorite animes and so it's like okay well we should just do what we want and go over this and I'm sure that there's more Auron people around especially the ones dying for a season two uh god knows if that will ever happen um but yeah like it's always like fun to i guess just finish up a longer show because then it's like oh we did it we made it through it okay what would you say is your favorite anime i i understand if it's impossible to pick just one you can do three or five if you like but so benevolent eliana we don't have to do this if it's too on the spot as well which it might no it's okay um my favorite anime oh i can't just be like

one like thing yeah i feel like sometimes it depends on the mood but we're here for sailor moon so that's definitely one of my favorite anime One Piece and surprisingly I know it's a shounen but it's also one of my favorite anime I feel like I've been watching that since the four kids dub for the people that know what that is which is basically me saying I watched it for a very long time Revolutionary Girl Utena definitely that. That's the bi vibes. The gay. The queer vibes. Full of that. I love it.

I think a favorite comfort anime of mine is School Babysitters. It's on Crunchyroll. I don't think I know that one. It's very, very cute. It's about these two boys that are orphans. And then they get taken in by their school master. that are orphans and then they get taken in by like their school master and they start a babysitting club where they look over like all the babies of the faculty that work at the school it's just so adorable because it's like the older brother is in high school and then the younger brother is a baby himself so you just get to see their like cute family interactions and like all

of these little babies coming around that are just very like adorable but like that's that is to say like i think babies are very cute i don't really plan on having any but i do like the show yeah guess if i had to pick another shown oh yeah haikyuu i love sports anime but haikyuu is like one of my favorite it's like a volleyball anime and i don't know like because i'm not really a sports girly unless it's the olympics i can watch like track and gymnastics and stuff like that but i would never watch volleyball like during the olympics but i will watch it in an anime and haikyuu is so so good i highly recommend that people that want to see a sports anime as far as i can tell it's big in the philippines my cousin who is playing volleyball she's like i don't know 12 13 she's

super into it yeah um it had a huge resurgence in like 2015 through 2018 too it was like big in the con circuit everybody was like it's it's sports ball anime time we are gonna dress up yeah as a group in sports ball anime that's how i first got introduced actually to that one to the volleyball one i had never seen it and all my friends were like oh we're cosplaying it and i'm like oh i guess i have to see it then aren aren't we? Yeah, yeah. It's so good. I have a cosplay of it as well. It's in storage.

But I just. It's cozy. It's cozy. It's cozy. I love doing, like, comfortable cosplays when I was, like, actively cosplaying. Absolutely. I love doing it when it's comfortable. If it's not, it's like, okay, how long are we going to be out in this maybe oh yeah i'm gonna give you like a good

45 minutes and then we're gonna have to change so yeah my entire like my adult grown-up cosplay repertoire is just kigurumis so i get that that's like just walk around floppy crotchet you know no one has to know what you look like beneath the kigurumi it hides everything it's lovely yeah wonderful lots of pockets great pockets oh yeah no comfort especially baby comfort yeah you need it where are you gonna put all your things yeah back in your room no in your pockets yeah or like in a bag i'll get a bag and then i'll get one of those tiny bags that expands into a bigger bag if I'm planning on buying a lot. Oh, I should send you both this video of someone who cosplayed with the Korok that has the backpack or the Korok on the backpack from. Oh, amazing. Amazing. Wow. Please. I must see.

amazing wow please i must see well we're really excited to have you we're gonna do some housekeeping in a minute uh and just kind of run down what's going on with ggc and then we'll come back and chat about some sailor moon so before we get into sailor moon real quick welcome back to girls gone canon covering their passion project sailor moon and if you are listening to us, just a heads up that we will not be spoiling beyond season two of Sailor Moon Crystal during this episode to the best of our abilities. To the best of our abilities. I might make references because it's... It's been out for a long... They'll be fine.

The story's been out. They'll be fine. The story's been out for a long time. They won't be big. It's been out. The manga's been out for a long time. Yeah. And you should have read it.

You should have read it. The anime's been out for a long time it'll be big it's been out the manga's been out for a long time yeah and you should have read it you should have read it um the anime's been out for a long time yeah that too but that said uh we will try not to go too far past season two of crystal for those of you that are watching along at home and if you haven't listened to us before welcome we cover a lot of other stories this is our first foray into magical girls in full we cover a song of ice and fire pov by pov character we have just finished up erin grayjoy and at the time of this episode being out if you're listening to this right now melisandre is coming up next with her chapter and then a couple other characters to come. Big surprises to come. Big, big things happening. Big, big

shoes. Big, big shoes. I say that every day now. In any mix, it's like big, big shoes. Yeah, and lots more to come. This month's Patreon episode was a Winds of Winter episode for patrons in the $5 and

up tier, the stranger and above tier. You get access to bonus episodes every month. Next month's is TBA. So keep your eyes and ears peeled for that over at patreon.com slash girls gone canon. This month's was The Forsaken, and the one before that was Victarion in Winds. So yeah, I don't think we're gonna probably do another Wins chapter in July, but

something will happen. Never know. Yeah. You never know what we're gonna do. You really don't. We will be back next month with Sailor Moon Crystals Season 3 at the end of the month. The last Friday of the month is when you should expect that episode. I'm excited for Season 3 which is one of... I think that arc is my favorite of the sailor moon arcs but now i'm i think i'm

starting to get like a little more uh into the very final arc the star s stars yes i'm trying to pronounce it cosmos um arc uh the more that i think about it as like you know the stage in life that i'm in though i've always loved um the villains in that arc and the way that like it ends but some things i was like i'm confused about some of this but anyways season three but i want to know because i know that you considered doing i think season three or you hinted at it when we asked you to come on. Chika, tell us about your relationship with Sailor Moon, as well as, you know, why you chose this season. Yeah, so my relationship with Sailor Moon, it starts way, way back in the 90s. I was going to elementary school. I really don't know exactly how I discovered Sailor Moon,

but somehow I discovered it and I really loved the show. But unfortunately, it came on while I was at school. So my sisters, I have like three older sisters and like one of them, I think two of them were in high school at the time. One of them was in middle school. So depending on who would come home somebody would come home and then they would record the latest Taylor Moon episode on a VHS tape so then by the time I got home then I would be watching it that's so nice of them yeah right thank you yeah I mean I you

know like sisters are okay I think that that was a pretty okay thing for me. But yeah, ever since then, I was like obsessed. I have free VHS tapes. I have Sailor Moon R on VHS. I do not know where it is. So slight like internal crisis about that. But yeah, I just loved watching it. I loved pretending to be Sailor Moon moon i would put like a towel on my

head and be like yeah i'm here to save the day you know stuff like that in regards to this season so the reason why i picked season two is because i think i've honestly watched this season the most hmm oh right um vhs tapes yeah yeah so i've i've watched it the most or re-watched it the most. Oh, right. VHS tapes. Yeah, yeah. So I've watched it the most or rewatched it the most. And even though like I feel like season three was part of my queer awakening. I just love season two

because then it's like you get to see Chibiusa and you get to see Imande. Yeah, Prince Demand. Yeah, yeah. Because my head kind of, it was just because I think in the dick dub it was like Diamond. So I was like, wait. Yeah, it was.

Which makes sense, but I was like, everyone would have put that together if you had just put Demande. Anyways. Well, and that's like Esmeralda, right? They change it to Emerald as well just to simplify it for us folks. So I was like mentally like,da, right? They change it to Emerald as well, just to simplify it. Yeah. Yeah. Us folks.

So I like mentally like, like, ooh, buffering. Wait, how do you say it? Yeah. But you get to see Demond. I don't know why I had the biggest crush on him when I was watching it like the first time. I don't know. Yeah. I don't know.

I was just like, if I was Sailor Moon, I would just be going for everybody. Like like oh yeah there's Tuxedo Mask but look this other guy wants her look this other person in the future in another season wants her in a movie another person wants her and I was just like I guess I didn't have any loyalty watching this because it's like oh yeah I like Tuxedo Mask but look at all of these people like wow okay not that many people stay with the person that they you know were into when they were 13 or 14 so or 900 or a thousand fair right right yeah so i don't know i just i loved re-watching in and then seeing them all come together and also Black Lady yes so iconic

we get all of the Mugler like looks in this season yeah it was so impactful for me that I had to pick this one absolutely I think some of the best I guess like later seasons were kind of a little more

what like Dark Moon Circus of a little more what like Dark Moon Circus is a little more like Balenciaga or something but you do get a lot of the there's McLaren there too but for both but yeah and then as you said Black Lady uh my partner uh first time for him I guess seeing that character he like, I want her to win. He's like, I don't care. I don't care what's happening. She deserves to win. Yeah.

Because her outfit was just so cool. But it's like her values were questionable. She's just confused. I just like the look of her. I was like, okay, black lady. Yeah, let's go. She was my favorite look of her i was like okay black lady like yeah let's go she was my favorite part of the season as a kid and i had the doll the actual black lady doll that had like the you had you could take the little uh the buns off and on actually like they were clip on

they but they were still like hair yeah they were still like synthetic hair but like you can clip them on and off which was kind of cool and like it let you make her up in that way by putting it on but then like she had the dress you know the iconic freaking dress it was so gorgeous but i was obsessed i was like this is my favorite toy that i've ever owned and i love her your honor and i want her to also win so i agree with your partner on that uh that and then obviously we again we won't spoil later but you know like mistress nine those were really impactful arts for me yeah and the arc in general right like we're gonna talk about it as we get into each episode but for her to choose that darkness and to become black lady and the same

thing with mistress nine and some of that pain that comes through i think those were so impactful as a kid for me and shows a lot now like in the stories i choose to watch and read right like i look at that and i'm like huh of course i loved sailor moon yeah who amongst us hasn't gone through a crisis at 900 years old um yeah but yeah that's just for chibiusa i would be a terror too i have a question because you said you kept re-watching and you had on vhs sailor moon r does that include the demon tree arc that you had on VHS amongst the stuff that you rewatched? Because in the original 90s anime, there's this entire arc. And I think it was, were they giving time for the manga to catch up, right?

That is not at all in this one. It's not in the manga. It makes me so mad. I don't even want to talk about it. Where are Alan and Anne? They're not in the manga. So they're just not like... I know, but why? They're not. But we just and Anne? They're not in the manga. So they're just not, like... I know, but why...

They're not. But we just erased them? But it was so good. We just erased them? Like, it was so good. I... Yeah, yeah. Like, they were definitely a part of, like, my nostalgia for Sailor Moon.

It had them in it. And seeing Sailor Moon R, but then seeing them, and I was just like, ugh, like, I know that it's not canon, but, ugh, like. It's an example of a time when maybe you should, maybe you should make something like that canon or add it in your own way

and, like, take that and play with it. Like, I would have liked to see it, but I understand that they shredded through so many episodes to really condense this, and that does the opposite of what they need to do by adding that back in but i don't know i they were iconic alan and ann and the demon tree was so it was such an interesting art and i think that maybe takuchi could have done it better yeah if she had wanted to but i mean i mean at that point she was making so much yeah that too

yeah actually like y'all can just go off of what i already that's why hunter hunter is never going I mean, at that point, she was making so much money. Yeah, that too. Yeah, actually. Like, y'all can just go off of what I already said. That's why Hunter x Hunter is never going to be... They're both just so rich, you know? They're so rich because they talk about him being in pain. Yeah, that's true. I'm not negating that he's in pain and everything, but it's like... Yeah.

If I'm that rich, would I really even be bothered? Like, I don't know. Honestly, I didn't even get into Hunter x Hunter. I, like, preferred Yu Yu Hakusho. I love Yu Yu. I was like, I'll get into Hunter x Hunter when it's finished. Yeah. I need to, like, I started it, but I haven't really, like, gotten into it yet.

I will say the one that, the unfinished shoujo manga that I'm still sad about is Nana. But, I guess, is that technically yeah technically jose i don't know whatever i think is it i thought paradise kiss was jose i don't know but anyways nana that's what i'm sad about yeah yeah no i think she honestly is very sick yeah although she's done like she's illustrated some stuff recently, but I don't know. I don't know what it will take for her to get back to finishing it. I just want it to be finished because there's a certain person in the manga and then also the anime that just needs to die. Like, violently needs to die.

If anything, like, even if she just wrote, she doesn't have to draw. If she just was like, okay, this is like epilogue. And then that person dies, I would be so happy. Or like something bad, like a disease. I don't know. Something bad to happen to them. Something very, very bad. I mean, technically it could be two people, but it's mainly like the one person I'm thinking about.

But yeah, if you guys ever get into Nana or or read it you'll know who we're talking about i have to reread it i don't remember anymore for some of that but yeah a wonderful introduction i i just like that everyone has their own past right with sailor moon everybody has their own connection and why they love it and how they love it and how they still honor that and now we're living living in this golden age where we're still getting, you know, Sailor Moon, we're getting Sailor Moon all over again. I never thought this would come back. But here we are. Yeah, it's even more ingrained than ever, you know, regarding this season in these episodes and the influence of Sailor Moon, I'm brave enough to say it. I think that the Guardians of the Galaxy 2 plot is a ripoff of this season.

It's not exactly. I'm just joking about, like, you know, someone becoming the whole planet. That's it. That's it. Yeah. Yeah. That's similar. No, I mean, it could be.

Like, I know, what's his face? could be like i know what's his face the damon aronofsky definitely ripped off of satoshi on perfect blue for black swan that was a ripoff oh i can see that yeah no i that was that was a joke but i'm just like oh planet becoming the entire planet interesting oh like and having a planet head like i've always hated having like a five head like a five finger head but having a planet head is worse so that made me feel better yeah you did have a big yeah the whole planet was forehead wasn't it huh and he even like was emphasizing that was so funny too my favorite thing about all that is like the reveal like no now i'm phantom now i'm nemesis now i'm this and it's like pick

one just pick one and finally at the end he's just like i'm everything and i'm like all right you could have led with that dude the reveals got a little soft after a while after like the fifth one i was like do i believe you anymore of what you're saying giant evil mass uh i will say my favorite part of the of the whole season was Demande going full chaotic and just yoinking the diamonds, the crystals out and being like, I'm going to destroy the universe! I don't know why. It has that chaotic, it's always sunny energy to me. Yeah, it reminded me of when Bong Joon-ho got his two Oscars and he was like oh I'm gonna make them kiss we'll include the gif

he's just like I don't care about anybody everybody can die this whole universe kiss we will share this gif that Chica has put into this into this outline of that it's a very important one it's a beautiful gift beautiful you know last month or last time we did this a while ago with the other episode we recorded about this in our first sailor moon

episode we talked about eliana especially and before it told me about you know how some of the animation obviously had been cheaped out on in certain areas you know you gotta cut corners to get your crap on the air did they have to and right did they have to well last time I didn't really notice or pay attention to it as much until you pointed it out so I started seeing it and then this time you know how last time I was like I don't think it was that bad Eliana I'm gonna come forward and say I see where i was wrong this time very easily and clearly i see where i was wrong there are moments where there are no faces like at all like i'm just like where'd your faces go guys she was just crying and i'm like where the tears coming from it's just like insinuated by droplets coming out of the darkness and i'm like what's happening or then tuxedo mask like

sailor moon talking to tuxedo mask being like we are one we are this we are that and their mouths i understand you didn't have the budget and it's fast uncanny valley just uncanny sometimes it's fascinating where they decide to like have the good i think the animation gets better in the second half of the season but it's fascinating where they decide to have it good like in the moment where some of the sentry are waking up in the dark chamber i'm like wow look at all the detail on their hair and everything and then two seconds later it's gone but i'm like why did why did they put so much effort into that one single frame i don't know it's like somebody took the day off and then was just like will i come back or the person that was in charge of finishing it after that person took that day

off and never came back right it was like i guess i'll just do this and hope it works this fucks right which is kind of what happened and like you know i'm gonna be honest you know since we have been talking about the writer's strike and stuff, like the working conditions that animators for anime have to work in are really bad. Right. And I and like because there's the mentality that, oh, you're doing something that's your passion, you know, that should be enough for you. But like they make, I don't know, like really small amounts of money and they're working like long ass days longer than eight hour days for like a very small amount but at the same time i'm also like this is the one of the biggest ips ever did your did your studio not have the budget to a like pay people well and to like put the time into it like that's what i don't understand so isn't it so messed up how almost every single job that you hear about like across the entire country is like you have all this work to do here's your skeleton crew you now have 50 of the

time to do it go it's like every industry what could it mean but yeah no everywhere though that's what i mean like everywhere what could it? What could it all mean? Yeah. And they don't even get, like, proper vacations at all over there. It's very bad. So I definitely feel for them working in those types of conditions. I know I couldn't do it. Yeah. Like, I couldn't do it.

I would get burnt out. Even if I was working on Sailor Moon, and that's one of my favorite animes. It's just like, uh, I don't know if I could do this. My hands. I'm sure they have carpal tunnel all the time. I think a lot of them do. Plus, it is a physically laborious task. Yeah.

And I mean, now all that said, where the fuck were their faces? All that said, where was the budget and the time? This was even delayed. now all that said where the fuck were their faces all that said well that's the thing i'm like where was the budget in the time like this was even delayed you know i think if i'm not mistaken like the the these were delayed so i'm like anyway where was it where was it you know where's that where's that fucking demon slayer money you know a different studio but like they put a lot of money

into those fight sequences like And you can tell. I haven't watched the season yet because I don't have a Crunchyroll membership. It's okay. It's okay, yeah. Honestly, those animators over there, they deserve a raise. All of the money. Because the actual drawing style in the manga is shit. Oh, really?

To be honest. I haven't read the't read it's very ugly yeah like i i tried reading a volume and then i was just like because i've seen the anime first and so i was just like this is a joke it feels like a joke i thought about the first season of attack on tit. But over the years, you can see that artist progress. And I'm like, good for you. You're getting way better. But that's how I felt about first season on Attack on Titan. I was like, beautiful animation. You're doing...

This is your passion, manga artist. This is the story you want to tell. Yeah. I feel like I just was spoiled by shojo manga to the point where it's like i see beautiful stuff all the time so when the art style is just like subpar it takes me out it's like what what is the story like how can i root for you if you're ugly i don't know like okay i mean how young cheek was like prince de monde he deserves to win yes i was just like oh he's so he's so good looking like i don't care

if he's bad look at the cute dress he gave her he gave her a house he gave her a dress what is what is maru giving nothing nothing like no no demon slayer wasn't giving me anything i mean i do like that i i feel like with that i'm definitely an anime only um but yeah yeah well let's jump into the animation yeah let's bust into the actual episode right let's bust on into uh i guess we'll start at the 15th act infiltration sailor mars and so of course we're about to have the same handful of episodes where each sailor senshi gets wrecked and they get fucked over and kidnapped and yada yada i mean you get the sailor moon the villain formula So the first handful are going to

be a lot of that, right? So the whole name of the game is Chibiusa showed up and she's the topic of the episode. Everyone's like, what the fuck is with this kid? Who is she? What's her purpose? Rey warns them of a coming threat she saw in her meditations. And then Mars is attacked and kidnapped by Cone, the youngest of the Spectre sisters, commanded by Crimson Rubius at Wise Man's request to satisfy Chica's hubby Prince Demonte. Demonte waifu.

I mean, I get it. I do. Chibi Usa's showing up with a gun. Like, what? I was like, I love the 90s for a time. You, what? I love the 90s for a time. You know, she's just out here. Agreed. I agree.

Especially in an anime about magic. I'm like, what's the gun? Anyways. Reminds me of when they busted out a gun in, what was it, the My Immortal fanfic. Anyways. Kwon has, putting it out there. My favorite of the specter sisters,

Mugler outfits. Same. I love the, the foofy, the foofy thing. Turns out the specter sisters are not named for what I thought slash what you might think. Maybe they're naming conventions.

They do make sense. Once you know, like that they're all named after different, like shortened versions these mineral names but and being stones but um you know it's not a zen koan like i thought berthier is not named after berthier rifles calaveras maybe does still have to do with the stone but it is after also after a mineral so all of these are shortened after different minerals and I was misled. Huh. Huh.

It makes more sense. Their naming convention makes way more sense than what I thought they were though, so. Anyway. I looked up Earth Year too because I was just like, what kind of name is that? And then I saw the guns and I was just like, oh. Yeah. I guess two gun mentions in one season.

But no. Yeah, you're right it's just they're minerals and i guess everything just sort of fits that way yeah i just wouldn't thought of that at first same like without the added research i like that it's perfect that each of them though has like you know their perfect targeting of each sailor senshi right they have the perfect way to bring them down and target their weaknesses like the next one especially when we do for mercury is i mean mercury is kind of i feel bad for mercury because i feel like mercury is always easily exploited in this show they're like oh you're so smart you're a perfectionist you want to do the best ever and protect all your friends and never fail anyone in your life well well well yeah here's a rude awakening because we're not going to allow you to be perfect oh yeah i was like i don't understand why did she get she won she won

why would she she won right i fell for both of these episodes like they won though i know someone failed i think that the wise the wise man reminds me of Rasputin from Anastasia cause like Rasputin put his little like hood on like the hands are the same like even the color of the skin is the same and I was just like

that's not a good move and I mean actual real life Rasputin was also very manipulative and he had the royal the russian royal family on snuff um for real like so i'm not surprised that at the way he was controlling everybody else but we'll get more into that in like later episodes yeah yeah even like the hand right the gross kind of skeletal zombie hand thing that everybody has going on is kind of creepy here. I love it.

The beast hands. Yeah, the beast hands. He's a fun little villain. They're all really fun villains. Like the Spectre Sisters are a blast. Yeah. Yeah, they're so fun. I just love their outfit.

But then we also got into that before. That era of Mugler is like my favorite era of mugler their newer stuff's kind of like okay but before it was just beyond iconic just in the 90s and so i just love their outfit i'm sad i'm 90s fashion yeah i'm sad i missed the the i was like there on the last day but couldn't make it the last day of the like nuclear exhibit they had and i forgot where it was somewhere in new york yeah i think yeah i saw somebody's pictures of it i saw a bunch of the photos they're so nice i want it i like that they're like i don't know they don't have kind of a little redemption arc

or anything right a lot of times sailor moon villains sometimes get rehabilitated right and in the original 90s they were rehabilitated i think is what happened that sailor moon like rehabilitates them and is like go you're good now i've made you good goodbye and i love that they just get straight up no they're dead in this one they're just dead there's no rehabilitating those guys and i won't talk more about them but like it's an interesting comparison to later in the show when you have like the amazon quartet right and how they have a whole backstory and a whole kind of arc very they're my other faves for sure and i love them i love them but these guys are great because they don't need to have a whole backstory they just get knocked off after they're selfish they're bratty and they die and i love that that's you know

sometimes that's just how it should be in a show i'm only i only regret we don't get more of like koan in her outfit yeah like that's the only good part of them being rehabilitated is that we got to see them in their outfits for a little bit longer before they were gone yeah i do think that's the one sad part about like this version of the anime right like the nice thing about the monster the weak style is you kind of get to like make use of those designs those this character designs a lot more and this one it's just like you're there for like two seconds and then they're gone and i'm like what a waste um that's how i feel about it as well we get to see the introduction of Queen Serenity's scepter and Moon Princess Halation.

Yeah, that rings through the whole season. That becomes the big, the only thing that wins. She only wins through that, through the whole season. I mean, that's the spell of the week, right? The flavor of the week spell. Yeah, which kind of sucks. I do wish that we could have gotten i i would like if we could have gotten like a full gamut of all the weapons like okay you

know what the tiara is going for this and this other we can have the scepter for like i guess the final part but if they could just use more of her weapons, I would have a much more fun time. It's like, okay, this is an onslaught. We're going to bring this one back. I don't know. Well, and coming back to the fashion of it, right? And why the Mugler outfits are so important and why all of this hot culture of Sailor Moon is important is that as a child, I understood the thematic resonance that each season Sailor moon got an outfit upgrade that meant like

she had a new expanded power and she got a new weapon and it was very well built up that like i a child was able to discern that this meant something important that this fashionable part of sailor moon also was like a magical part and something to watch out for each season and that is something that i do feel is kind of missing, in a way, from Crystal. Like, I don't know, like, when we get to some of Chibiusa's stuff, it's a little stronger, and maybe it'll be stronger as we get the new drops, but I just felt like that was kind of missing, the importance of each sacred weapon and tiara and this and that.

I think this anime is a little, little like at least they're a little i find them better at this than the 90s anime where i feel like not just sailor moon but each senshi would only really use only one of their attacks for that whole season whereas this season i we did see sailor moon use the tiara a couple of times which was cool because i was like thank god we didn't forget that we actually have this um as well as the other stuff and then i think it's cool that we see the senshi use like a variety of different um attacks depending on the situation too but it does like i think especially in the 90s though it was sadder that like it always just ends with the moon princess halation which is a word that I've only learned through Sailor Moon

but yeah spreading of light halation yeah and even though she did use moon princess halation you know Mars still got her ass cooked. That's not

roasting over an open fire. I was like, but we won. Yeah. Okay, how did she die? If somebody dies, how does their power live on? I was just like, if she's dead, then, if Conan's dead,

then the fire... Yeah, it's a good question. I know, like, if she's dead, then if Cone is dead, then the fire... Yeah, it's a good question. I know that... Maybe in the next big reset she does come back, just no one cares or talks about it, because it feels as if everybody comes back. Always.

Yeah. Maybe she's living in the rocks in the air now. I mean, that's the case for what the the four generals right for yeah he means for generals i was like and they are kind of well and especially as we get into like the esmeralda stuff too there's a lot of parallels there but they're they are kind of like that this season so i guess yeah they live in everything everywhere the general is also wearing mcglair uh military outfits i think it was also there right but yeah i think so i think so possibly the industrial military complex is sexy that is the 90s at the beginning of the episode we talked about how chibi usa like comes and then she introduces herself to Usagi's parents and she's like I'm also Usagi

and I mean we do find out that's not really a spoiler because we are talking about season two so Chibi Usa is Usagi's daughter from the future so it's like but she named she named Chibi Usa after herself. So my question for you guys is, would you name your hypothetical child after yourself? So, once upon a time, I was like, oh, what if I have two kids and I name one Ellie and one Anna?

So the answer is maybe kind of, but I would also say... She absolutely would she absolutely would i'm a leo um yeah so i would also say that uh you know this is big this is very big gilmore girls energy but men do it all the time you know why why not and i guess technically you know her mom did it too right her mom was named serenity she's named serenity they also kind of pass that name on a little bit too is usagi her middle name unsure um yeah it's kind of like being named mom junior right like i'm now mom junior or it's like there's joseph senior joseph senior joseph junior joseph you know like

all these like imagine that no i wouldn't do that to this child i would never do that to a child what the fuck so there's two types of people on this podcast is what i'm saying there's eliana and there's chloe the look on her face and the hesitation that she gave us when you asked that question is also something i want you to pinpoint chica i want you to understand that the hesitation was her in her mind going absolutely i absolutely would do that she said maybe but she meant absolutely look at her face she meant absolutely well i just like don't plan on having children so that's why it's like a no but like the the there was a time in which that was a plan ellie and anna and i was and i was like

what if what if people expect me to name you know if, if I have a male child? And I was like, Eli, that's a good name. Eli is a good name, though. All right, I do like the name Eli, so. Yeah, what about, what do you think, Chika? What about you? I mean, I also, like, I don't really want to have kids. So it's just kind of like, but if I were to have a kid, I don't know. I feel like there's enough chaos with like my specific version of being Chica

that like them also being Chica, like, I don't know. I think I have my own obstacles to deal with. If there were like two Chicas and two like obstacle course type lives, I'd just, I'd be fed up i don't know i don't think oh chica you need to find your own path you know you're 18 now bye but no not really i guess i would be a mom i mean when you're a mom you're technically supposed to be a mom for life so i

wouldn't really like kick mini chica out but yeah i don't i don't i don't see myself doing that and see they'd have to have their own name in their own chaos it makes it a lot harder at 18 to tell them to get out when you gave them your name too i think you know right it's like but you gave me this they'll call the cops my name is chica this is my house get this other person out of my house this is already a problem do that in asian culture we're like what do you mean you're moving out that's weird yeah what happened oh fuck all right so let's talk about the next episode abduction where sailor mercury also gets her ass smoked and gets kidnapped there's a theme there's a theme here again she won though she won now that sailor mars is captured the guardians are expecting another attack usagi blames chibiusa thinking you're one of our enemies too but then a specter sister arrives birth year

and imprisons sailor mercury in a watery orb after a very rousing game of chess so at least she went in you know mentally stimmed birth years killed by sailor moon who performs you guessed it moon princess halation but then rubius shows up and takes mercury away in a ufo i just I had to suspend my disbelief with this episode. Or I mean, you kind of have to anyway, when you are watching anime, but I had to do it for this because it's like a sailor Mars. Ray has been taken. Where's the chaos? Well, not the chaos, but like, where's the fear? And like like the desperate plans on getting her back? Like they're just like, oh, I got to go to school. So we'll figure it out.

Like eventually, I mean, I guess they have to because it's the show. But I'm just kind of like, you know, I don't know if my friend was kidnapped. Maybe I would at least make flyers. Where is Ray's milk carton? Like the missing child, like milk carton thing. Where is that? Yeah, they should have gone on the offensive, I guess, sooner. But they were struggling.

The smartest amongst them are Ami and the cats. The cats who know how to use computers. That's not that impressive. My cats can use the computer too. Yeah, they're the producer of the show uh yeah i actually really like birdie i like her outfit she's probably my second fave outfit i would say yeah of them because obviously cone has the best we already you there's no arguing with that one yeah but i like the blue like the baby blue yeah yeah very cute birth years are the one is the one that you know again not spoilers but

the most amazon quartet ish yes yeah especially that vibrant of the blue that watery blue and i like that uh we're matching powers here again yeah like logic and water you know is kind of the focus of this episode which is good again we're destroying everyone with their own things from the inside out and then they also i think birth air in this episode indicates that they want chibiusa they're like we want the rabbit and so it's just like which rabbit Again. The new rabbit. Okay. Just creating issues all over again. Why did you name her this? Yes. Like, they both have bun heads.

So, which one? Be more specific. You want the rabbit? Do you want an actual rabbit? We can procure one for you from a store. Yeah, it's interesting that that had that ambiguity and then they're like this little girl's enemy i don't know i guess children falling out of the sky is a little suspicious especially when they have i mean i would be i would be suspicious of

any child that pulled a gun on me yeah that's that's a great that is a great point. Valid. Valid. Shit. Are you like, I would question it. Are you, are you good? Are you bad? Because you feel kind of bad because who does that? Where is your mama? And we're supposed to be cool afterward? Like, I don't know. Yeah.

I appreciate that part too, though. That's like her bad behavior. We know where it comes from. We know why she's acting out. We obviously know why she's acting out. Yeah. Yeah. I appreciate that part too, though. That's like her bad behavior. We know where it comes from. We know why she's acting out. We obviously know why she's acting out. Yeah. Yeah, because we know who her mother is. It's very Selina Meyer and Catherine from Veep, Eliana.

I could see it. Yep. Catherine would not pull a gun out on someone. I mean, maybe if driven, you know, if really pushed to the edge, maybe. Before Berthier dies and they're like doing the chess game i really love how you saggy is able to help amy break out of like the psychological mind games because birth year was using like this the black crystal to predict the moves oh yeah that she could win and then was like screwing with amy's mind and amy's just like i want to protect my friends like i want to do all the things can i even do it oh my gosh

and then you said you just not knowing anybody's like yeah amy and it was just like oh what was that show silent library i don't know i don't know what that is oh there's like there was a show on mtv i think it was called silent library and that you had to play games in the library and you couldn't make too much noise or they'd kick you out but yeah but it was like silent library and that they're like you're saggy like shut up you can't talk during a chess game even an evil one exactly what amy needed i mean you can but at your own risk i guess yeah it's bad etiquette it's bad etiquette to do so the focus has to be there i guess but i'm also just like yeah why not you know is it a sport or is it not checkmate atheists but they do a good

job this season too of showing usagi coming into her leadership through that right that like even though she's our favorite little cry baby like she actually comes into her leadership and cheers her friends on to do what they're good at and she starts to kind of make some of these bigger decisions that are life-changing decisions where last season she had to be pushed more to do it yeah she's she's she's a very emotional person and that can be like why part of the difficulty people have around her but also it's part of what friends love about her because she's so supportive and you know i i think something that's good about this episode also speaking of like how ami was you know she's like oh my gosh i've been alone like my whole life but now i finally like have friends and this is so meaningful to me and even if I have to stand against this alone I will do it and it really I think starts solidifying the

tone about just loneliness that goes through this season especially towards the end when you look at Pluto and Chibiusa and what they're going through all right and that brings us to Sailor Jupiter who is just not masking instead of blaming Chibius, Makoto realizes that the Black Moon are actually chasing after Chibiusa and not the Silver Crystal, and the remaining Innocenti then vow to keep Chibiusa safe, except Pets, the eldest Spectre sister, is spreading a contagious deadly disease. Hmm. And Makoto comes down with it, but she doesn't get the disease like normal people would she becomes electrically charged and she shocks anyone who touches her and pets commands droids to fill the city and makoto alerts usagi right before the droids reach her apartment giving her

time to transform pets protects herself with an energy shield from jupiter and sends her own black lightning down at her sealer moon is able to kill pets so i don't really understand it seems like she doesn't have a problem killing people but yet we like did not kill this one anyways uh with prince moon princess halation but rubius rubius then arrives to take makoto away and sailor venus and sailor moon watch on in horror it's pretty horrific once more this one's pretty stylish though i i love this episode a lot i was enjoying re-watching it i love everything with jupiter always has such great style yeah love seeing all the the lightning and the big black lightning instead back and forth and it was a really great stylistic episode and we had some luna pea expansion in this app which i have to say uh

biggest luna pea stan I love Luna P so much right and some of the later appearances become even more badass and I do I just have to say I love that Luna P gets its expansion and then I also love that Sailor Moon R technically and in the future it's kind

of canon that Luna P was made by Sailor Mercury in the future which I'm like oh that's so fucking cool. So I just want my own is all, really. I want my own Luna P so badly. I think about it like every other day. Honestly, I'm surprised I haven't cosplayed as Black. Luna P.

Well, not as Luna P, but as Black Lady so I could have Luna P. Ah, okay. Thought about it. But then at the time, I think my hair was too long because like when you have dreadlocks and stuff once it gets to a certain length you can't really wear wigs

it's difficult that's a lot I could probably do it now since I cut them but still like before I couldn't do it and braiding pink hair into my hair would have taken a long time but either way yeah i love luna pea as well like just so iconic and just able to change into whatever you want like how can how can luna pea have like a gun also what is it a hallucination umbrella thing oh yeah yeah

yeah and then have dubs inside of it. I mean, that's the thing. It's kind of we talked last episode that my favorite, like overall weapon kind of thing or like tool is the pen, the transformation pen where you the fur when she can actually transform into anything, though. And I love that because I just love like the imagination of it all. And I love that it could just be anything. It's just a really fun device for the story. And Luna pea is like that for chibiusa i also thought it was interesting that luna pea has blue eyes right because if it looks like luna because luna has

what red eyes red eyes yeah yeah i was like oh that's why they were all so misled. Maybe it's blue for Mercury. Oh, there you go. I was slightly reaching for that. I think it works. We were like, yeah. Actually. All right. While I'm complaining, you know, coming back to the complaints about animation, I would like to point out that they used the wrong animation for Moon Princess Halation here.

And I was like, am I hallucinating this Halation? Just like how in one of the final episodes of the previous season, they're like, no, the moon stick and the silver crystal are inseparable and bonded. Two frames later, the stick has no crystal. Anyway, so this one, they actually ended up using the the animation for moon healing escalation and the extended crescent wand instead of moon princess halation and the cutie rod so i was like what the fuck inconsistent well yeah that's the point i was like i was like how interesting that she did actually use that this time, but anyways.

That was a lie. They meant moon princess halation in their hearts. Yeah. They did. In their heart of hearts. They wanted it to be the right animation, but it was too late. It was not, yeah. They were like, let's just never go back and fix that.

Something else I noticed in the episode is, like, when we get this little flashback of Chibiusa thinking about her parents, and you see Edominion and King Endiminion. Minions. Minion. King Minion. Oh, God. When you see King Minion.

I want that fan art. i want that fan art i want that fan art and queen serenity they're greeting people on their balcony and i was just reminded of the british royal family because you know they like to greet people on their balcony too and so the royals yes yeah i love that very royal very royal yeah very much so i was just like okay i'll also say i mean as the demande lover i said that he's fine in the bad guy way but you know y'all already knew that listeners so just here to remind you again i agree i agree also saffir i mean all of them you know you got oh yeah yeah the muscle tank on rubius um i didn't like his hair though no it's kind of dumb

and i don't like i don't know i okay so something that's coming back lately i'm just gonna throw my opinions out there cargo pants right i'm finding them women. I think women's cargo pants and the way that we're bringing it back for this generation is okay, even though I still have my qualms with them. I don't think it should come back for men's fashion. That's it. That's how I feel. Respect. I think they can be kind of pretentious enough.

Putting cargo pants on them, I feel like they pretend that they have a certain level of authority like look at these pants like i'm almost military but not really yeah it's it's almost that right like these are actual sailor soldiers that they're battling and they have like a sense of legitimacy and this is like his almost sense of legitimacy well i'm just yeah he's just like oh ufo bye everyone else is so fashionable right they've got like you know the tight collars and stuff and he's like i'm wearing cargo pants i'm like and that's how i feel about them nowadays on real real life men yeah it's like you see it it's like this is a choice like okay i'm just saying something else that i noticed in this episode is the fact that uh makoto just ends up confessing like what she does

to asanuma they're like friends and mamo's fanboy because he was just like he's like makoto i have the tea so i was minding my own business i went to this cafe and mamo and usagi they were talking to a cat but the cat was talking back like what is this what is going on like i have never seen this in my life and then makoto's just like ah and then he just went on it's like are y'all from a different planet and it's like wow like he's just picking up on everything and then she just admits to it and i was just like uh is that allowed is that okay i didn't think you were supposed to tell people thought it was a secret i don't think that it was it made sense that they're talking to Luna and just out in the open. You can do that.

First of all, you can bring a cat into a food establishment. Like, is it OK? Yeah. Is it allowed? I know you could do that for like cat cafes, but like regular cafes. Like, right. They're just special and well behaved compared to other cats so they just let it slide like hmm

hmm it's a good question actually now that you put it like that yeah I don't know and they don't even address like do they wipe his memory or anything and I'm like this kid we like literally don't know him he's a weirdo stalker and and how come we tell him

everything but we don't tell like naru or any of our like the people we actually know and like right right anyway and she kisses his forehead i was like oh like girl you sick she's sick as fuck right now put a mask on girl what the fuck right what the fuck yeah because she was coughing it reminded me when i had covid that was a bad time a terrible time it just felt like something was just stuck in my lungs and no matter what i did i couldn't cough it out like i still have a bad cough from then yeah it took a while and then like i don't know she's first of all you're sick stay the fuck home first of all and then second as you said like not only is she not masked she's first of all you're sick stay the fuck home first of all and then second as you said like not only is she not masked she's out here like just putting her germs on people like why are

you not concerned if you're concerned about this boy's well-being don't fucking spread your your disease and i just thought i don't know it's also interesting because my understanding maybe maybe they just didn't care with this but you know japan was like pretty quick to to adopt and even before covid right they would mask if someone was sick the person who was sick would mask and i was like scleropiped you know protecting people starts with our individual actions but what if it was like what if it's okay dark thought here what if she kissed his forehead so that he could like die so that he doesn't betray their secrets like he gets the disease too and then he dies that's pretty hardcore what happens to this boy you know too much here's this disease

i mean you know i definitely no one has said if they've ever seen this boy again so we we've seen him in like other episodes and he's like wow I really wish that all these people would come back I'm like wow so he lives yeah he's got to just carry that burden on his own yeah he shows up in the next episode my god that's right I thought he would die later on later on too when they're all like wow the people that we think about and care about and love and I'm like do we think about and care about and love this kid I don't know I can't even tell you his name

I can't even tell you his name I was glad that Chika put his name I don't know this kid's name I don't know interesting should have worn a mask and not the tuxedo mask kind of mask yeah needs to cover the bottom half of your face let's And not the tuxedo mask kind of mask. Yeah.

Needs to cover the bottom half of your face. Let's not talk about tuxedo mask there either. He's on thin ice. He's on very thin ice. Extremely. Alright, Act 18. Sailor Venus. Invasion. Minako and Usagi hope to speak to Chibiusa to try to stop the massacre and save the other Sailor Guardians.

After they capture the dead pets' black earring, it's charged with weird matter, and they bring it home. Chibiusa sees it and screams at the sight of it, and later, when they finally get to speak to her, Usagi does that thing she likes to do where she instigates, so Chibiusa is like, I'm gonna run away crying, which is always great, but also, she has stolen Usagi's brooch with the crystal. So, back on Nemesis, they're pretty upset that the scouts have kicked the asses of their girls, and Prince Demande summons Wise Man and they decide they must destroy the silver crystal, which Chibiusa has. Meanwhile, the final

Spectre sister, Calaveras, shows up borrowing powers from her dead sisters, and she announces that Earth is entering the Age of aquarius the age of reformation and minako is there trying to bring people to their senses because calaveras is trying to brainwash them into thinking that the people of the white moon are evil and then artemis transforms and you know they all battle they have this great craziness go on usagi gets there transforms shibusa also transforms with a push from tuxedo mask which is very exciting usagi kills calaveras using wait eliana you know what she uses she she does use moon princess halation it is the correct animation that's why i was like did i like imagine what

happened last episode i was questioning my reality and i looked back i was like no shibiusa explains she thought that maybe she would be able to use the past crystal and the future crystal to help even though she had been told before it could also be disastrous she begged sailor moon to save earth of the 30th century there's a really great build-up for chibiususa reveal throughout this um obviously we know it already so like i can't look at it with like an innocent virgin mind on it right like we already know this plot i'd be curious for people like we have a couple patrons that are watching this for the very first time as their first foray into sailor moon and i'd be interested to know how that reveal

felt to them right i should have messaged a couple of them because I'm just curious now, but, you know, this push of, is she bad? Is she good? No, she's just a fucking little girl. But is she bad? Is she good? Is she bad? Is she good? She could never have been bad. It's a really great arc to show also those reflections of Usagi's insecurities and how she has the weight of the world

kind of on her shoulders and having to save everybody and not knowing if she's good enough to do so and then also how it trickles down in effect from that to her daughter that she doesn't know yet but she does know but she doesn't know that she knows but she does know her but she doesn't know that yet and there's also you know that we have there are the minor complaints of like why are you guys in school when you should be saving the world if there's this big thing going on that is confusing. But I think as we get towards the middle of this season, it starts to be well done where you have kind of like, the real world and then the spirit plane and the crystal realm and you're back and forth between all these locations and fighting on all

these different planes. And this episode kind of starts to show that a little bit. And I think it's well done in that. And then and I think, think you know like the i guess the meta reason for you know why are they in school it's because you know it's yeah it's child's cartoon and it's about like learning to have that double life of like you know i i go to school but i have other things you know that i'm learning to deal with myself and the whole special inner world you know but also just like the fantasy it has to like keep that i guess because it's part of the child fantasy thing but it is kind of like yeah and some other magical girl anime this one doesn't address it as much usagi's just always had bad grades but some other anime they do address like you know it is taking

a toll on them and like oh, things are dropping at school. This is not one of them, but. At least you don't have the part where the teacher, they might have that in one of, I don't think they do, but where the teacher has a relationship with the student. I'm like, what the fuck is going on? Cardcaptor Sakura.

But. No, just a dad making out with a teenage daughter. Yeah. Well, teenage 980s. you know just a dad making out with a teenage daughter yeah um well teenage 900 age you know what I mean he's always getting brainwashed weak minded I don't know I'm like what's wrong with this man

but he's always getting brainwashed but as long as he kisses his wife then I mean that's what happens to my husband, too, so... When he kisses me, they just... Out of the sky! I'll show you the smoking bomber.

Do I not have true love? Does that not happen? Because that does not happen to me. This is a whole other episode that we could go into that on. I don't think we have time today, Eliana. Okay. I don't even know what love is.

Will I ever get my own weapon? We'll find out in another episode maybe. Possibly, I don't know. Something I noticed is that well, you already mentioned it when you were talking about the episode chibi usa's really strong trauma response to seeing a black moon crystal like her eyes the light goes out of her eyes she can't handle it she's just like what is this oh my

god just screaming everything in front of her new little friend too which I guess I mean I know that they have that debate of is she good is she bad but it's like you know this the black crystal is from bad people so her screaming like that like she has to be you know good or at least like

morally gray or in the middle somewhere yeah um well and it helps they cut out a lot at least, like, morally gray or in the middle somewhere. Yeah. Um. Well, and it helps they cut out a lot from the original anime, right, where you have all those scenes of her poisoning everyone all the time, and, like,

right? Like, that's something that's missing from this for me, as I'm, like, chibi-used to being a little motherfucking shit, just being an instigator and just going around poisoning them with tea with luna pea and making them all fall asleep and the good days the good old days right those were fun bits of the episodes but yeah i did feel that way when i was younger and i was like was that am i the only one who felt that way about her this season back then so oh i loved it yeah i was like you're such a

little shit keep going good wait you loved you loved her back then yeah she i loved it yeah i was like you're such a little shit keep going good wait you loved you loved her back then yeah she's like the most annoying little like cousin you know is kind of how she acts and i kind of love it oh no i hated her i was just like what is wrong with you why are you doing no i was like this is so annoying why is this happening why do we need these high drinks yeah yeah this is like my cousin did that it's like i wouldn't even bother with you like get out of my face why are you poisoning me i too but you're supposed to be a good person like what yeah she doesn't do that in this version though so we're okay we are yeah side note i want yeah a black crystal earring. Those are cool. Oh, yeah.

Oh. I have cosplayed Sailor Mars. Oh, awesome. And Galaxia, actually. But not her cool, because I never had the money to do her actual outfit. I did No Flutter's version of Galaxia. It was like a dress. That's amazing.

Oh, I love the No Flutters. I love the No Flutters art. Yes. I did Sailor Saturn in high school. And I haven't returned, and I should. But that was my one Sailor Moon costume. I'm too lazy to cosplay well

the the hard thing is like you need if you're gonna do a group cosplay you have to decide to do it as a group and someone like one design right because it's a fuku you want it to be consistent or you have to buy from the same place if you're commissioning and it's really hard to organize a sailor moon group like i commend anyone that does a big group, right? Yeah. And actually gets a whole group cosplay because that's a lot of the fun in doing anime cosplay. I think it's been a very long time for me, but that was part of the fun.

Going as a group. Yeah, that was part of the fun. Yeah, yeah. I was with a friend at the time. So when I did human Luna, then they did human Artemis that gender bent i love that yeah but back to the episode i think that the calaveras cults well even before that i was saying that um sapphire was talking about how all the of their people are just dying and then they're just being

chill about it and like rubius is just like oh well you know it comes with the time it comes with war whatever it is like y'all illusion too many people to be this much lot horses i think that's so great though because what you've highlighted is like they see them as disposable that these women are nothing where you have the sailor scouts where sailor moon every single time one of them is taken is like in horror. She's in pain. She's like, we have to get our people back. Right.

Where they don't give a fuck about their people. They're like, that's fine. We'll get more. They're just disposable soldiers where the Sailor soldiers are not treated that way. They are. They love each other. They treat each other with respect and care, and they want to save the world together and do happy shit the good guys i mean it even gets to the point where i guess like and he's sad about it kind of but at the same time like in this shows

their underlying philosophy uh sapphire is like killed by his brother so you know how much love was there really between everyone i guess right he was getting him back for taking Usagi and trying to kill her. Does he know about that? I don't know if he realized that. Which part? That his brother was obsessed? That Sapphire tried to kill Usagi. He's like, oh, if I kill you, he's gonna go back to normal.

Yeah. I think he saw that, but Demande was like, that doesn't really bother me. It's only later on when he's like, wow, you're really just brainwashed and i'm not dang rip and then oh cali veras she her doing that yoga whatever stuff in the middle of the park and having these people obey her it just reminded me of scientology yeah cult. Cult-y. Yeah, absolutely. And they describe it as such. I do think it's interesting that they it feels like they rely on TV for some of these things

instead of, they modernized some things in the anime, right? They were like, as opposed to other parts, but this one they didn't. They didn't have people streaming things off of social media or whatever. So it's too complicated to explain. interesting choice i guess i just wanted to do whatever they felt like i don't know why i highlighted tuxedo oh i think it's funny oh his tuxedo was smoking bomber yeah the fuck does that even mean

does that even mean it's why is it la la la i guess it makes it french or italian or true spanish or i don't think naoko takeuchi thought that far ahead i assumed they were going for french based on all the a bientot a suive right and romance romance romance. But also, it's not quite Star Gentle Uterus, but it's like, you know, on that spectrum of strange names. He's just all, let's smoking bomber wear the roses. We just gotta let the boy

in the group do something once in a while, you guys. Sometimes those boys like to do things on TV too. Don't want to be sexist. Let him have some stage time. He even has his own action figure. That's so sweet. That he gives to people. Good for him. Little bros.

Yeah. I am glad it was a twist, you know? Sailor Venus was not kidnapped. So she has one friend. One friend. But next episode we get another friend we get sailor pluto because turns out we find out chibisa is from the future when the black moon attacked crystal tokyo and captures the guardians in the future and then like while everyone's asleep artemis and luna try to discuss time warping and luna has a vision of queen

serenity calling her in the silver millennium even though the subs keep calling her neo queen serenity i'm like that's a different one oh my god please please keep up sub sub titlers um and they're at a magnificent door um serenity tells her it's guarded by a solitary guardian telling her to forget what she's seen luna awakens and remembers chibiusa's key chibiusa makes up her mind we're all going to the future then she like does you know a prayer with the time key um and then like bam they're there on nemesis as maraud's time to shine comes she summons more like droids to go destroy the silver crystal and its heirs and she has like the boule brothers is that i don't know yeah kyril and kyril um i forgot um sailor kyril and akira that's what it was akira um and then the sentry are

separated to different time dimensions it doesn't really hold them back that much um anyways they see a figure sailor pluto who does dead scream. Very happy that we got dead scream in this episode. Boons them, and then Sailor Moon tries to befriend her, and she's like, I don't know you, but Chibiusa comes up. She hugs her, and then it's like all good. And then they all go to... she reveals that she's a princess of Crystal Tokyo, and then they all go then to Crystal Tokyo, but it's a tar tarp and they're encased in silver and tuxedo mask destroys the crystal floor attacks the brothers with now his like new powers and shit um venus also attacks with the love me chain celeron's like oh my god why can't i do

anything as rod escapes the crystal structure in case like all breaks and then we have the real palace and then there's like this person sleeping it's neo queen serenity or neo queen serenity whatever um and then she uses like look i have a cat also and then it's also mamoru but slightly desaturated spirit mamoru yes and kind of cool about the kiro and akiro like naming is it's named after molecules and a kiro object is not identical with its mirror image and a kiro object is identical and it's super imposable on its mirror image so it's kind of funny it's kind of clever kind of a cute clever little naming mechanism esmeralda mvp she's my fave my favorite villain this season definitely every time she's haughty she's fun she's greedy she's selfish uh and i like the way that we start to interface these villains in how a how they revolve around the moon kingdom like usagi's like why are you all

so mad at me all the time i'm just a teenage girl but there's actually a huge history of why they're all mad at her of all this shit she doesn't know that she did later in the future uh she doesn't understand that but like demand right like he demand and her had real history before this huge intergalactic magical war they were people that lived in the kingdom and they knew one another and had a history like i would love to see some great episodes of that right just like a full-on telenovela of the drama of the moon kingdom a prequel series that would be amazing of all these little dramas i would love that where did these people get magic from because they're like they were all just normal humans except for like that guy Phantom but he had special abilities like evil sight

and beast hands I'm like where did they get them that's what I want to know I would love to have a prequel series looking at that and following them in detail and giving them backstory I mean she's not going to give it to us she's so rich no she's done

I don't have a big enough money truck. She's wealthy. Yeah. She's wealthy. Not even rich. That's a good distinction. It's true. Well, if she thinks about it, she should do it.

You know, I'll let her know. Drop her a line, just in case. Esmeralda's last episode is the next episode, but there's this great subplot going on in the background that she just like chica loves prince demonde like that is her obsession she's obsessed with him and he doesn't see anyone but usagi like that's all he sees he's obsessed with usagi and so her obsession with proving herself to demonde and her new powers that Wise Man gives her like that's why she dies she's consumed by

her obsession and her jealousy she's green with envy ha ha ha ha like emerald with envy if you will and it's actually kind of terrible sad in the end for her I'm like oh girl you were down bad for that dick yeah just dying for a man

absolutely not couldn't be me tries to do I guess Princess Serenity did that. Yeah, couldn't be me. The 90s. I think I like Esmeralda. I miss Esmeralda's fan. I miss her fan that had the pink fuzzies on it. And I miss the Dick dub version of her laugh.

Yes. It was so iconic. Yeah. So when she laughed in this, I was just like, who is this for? This laugh? Like, you think it's up to par? Yeah, she was hysterical. Dick, by the way, was one of the studios that brought sailor moon over to and dubbed it

for u.s audiences for those who are not in the know we're not just i'm not talking about like actual dick eggplant yeah uh it was one of the better portrayals in the dub too voice wise like i actually think it was a fun portrayal in the dick dub so for what it's worth I very much agree she was very funny I did miss that and she didn't get as much time at all in this season that was the bummer for me which yeah that's the biggest bummer I think of the way that like

of this you know you don't get as much of the villains who have amazing outfits I mean she had the best hair she has the best hair big I don't know if anyone like read or checked out i haven't finished it the comic snot girl reminds me a little snot girl but uh yeah yeah i dyed my hair green because of her and pluto truly to be fair like a while not now it's not green now obviously for you to see me but i had green hair for like a whole ass year and i will

say it was inspired by both pluto and esmerda. Different greens, but all the same family for me. Yeah, they keep her ruthless, which is good because she was a little whinier in the original anime than this and not ruthless. And they make it so that it's not that she's like love struck and shit. And I love that she could have saved Rubius, but she was like, no, but I love power and adoration. So I'm going to just make sure you don't live and i'm gonna go

save the day and it's a good build-up when you think last season right like nephrite and zoysite had a very similar rivalry going on so her ending you know ending rubius's shots at living or you know winning good for her yeah beast hands yeah i think so so we get our introduction to sailor pluto and i think one of also my biggest gripes with the new version of the anime is like they they whitewashed her she's portrayed as like much darker skin in the manga and like the original anime she wasn't as darker skin but there are times in some scenes where they're definitely using a different hex code which like at least they did that here it's like practically imperceptible especially like compared to the other senshi and that was like an intentional and specific choice by takeuchi and she's like

likely inspired by latina model like christy turlington and of course the legendary naomi campbell um you know who both like wore i think the chanel dress that that inspires some of the art of Sailor Pluto in some of those princess forms Takeuchi just likes drawing people in pretty dresses and we'll have that in between the issues and chapters

of Sailor Moon so it's really disappointing to me that they lightened her skin tone so much in the anime. Yeah, I'm disappointed as well because, you know, Crystal is supposed to be the more accurate version that's, like, true to form

for the manga. And so if... This is the time. This would have been the time for us to see Pluto as she was supposed to be. And I guess, like, we'll just never get that. So that kind of sucks.

Yes, because she set out to make Pluto a dark soldier, right? She wanted her to be set apart in general. And that is kind of a bummer. And there is something interesting that, like, I guess she's hard to draw. That her staff, I i guess takeuchi's staff like she'd be like who wants to draw pluto and ever like not me because she has the staff she has more screen tones to her skin and drawing the rod but it's a really lazy shortcut when she was set out to be that way from the start yeah and i feel they went back and corrected some of

like the animation and stuff i hear for especially like seasons one and two for when they re-released it later um for i don't know blu-ray or some shit i feel like this is something that they could have corrected but yeah anyway yeah well and they never really did moving forward either yeah they should have been consistent and just done it from the start that's a little if they can do a different dario exactly exactly if we can anyways so act 20 crystal tokyo king and dimian huge reveal it turns out he's future mamoru who knew and he's talking to them through his spirit form he's not

there and he tells Chibiusa to reveal the truth that she's the daughter of Neo Queen Serenity and King Endymion aka Usagi and Mamoru's daughter from the future but also now also Diana is Artemis and Luna's daughter way bigger reveal in my opinion who knew the silver crystal had protected the queen during an explosion at the castle that turned it all to dust and they'd been trapped in stasis unaging as the silver millennium royal family doesn't age after adulthood and lives all about a thousand years we get a quick history lesson that a black megalith was responsible for the attacks on the palace which we come to understand as the black

moon and dimion shows them the planet Nemesis in their computer room, and that a criminal was banished by the Queen to Nemesis centuries ago, and thus had hijacked the planet, using the Black Crystal to invade Earth in the past, and use it as an energy source. The Guardians are likely trapped there, and Endymion promises to help them with their mission. We get side info on the Outer Sailor Senshi.

They're coming. Their missions are much different. Critical. They remain a little more anonymous than the inner Senshi, for now, until next season. But timey-wimey stuff is happening, and they can't keep creating paradoxes by being multiple versions of themselves in one time zone, so they must part. But before they part, Chibiusa disappears, running to the Crystal Palace to watch her guardians and her mother and her father, unconscious, begging them to open their eyes, and when she leaves, she gets fucking caught by Esmeralda. Venus and Usagi try to attack Esmeralda, it proves ineffective, King Endymion encourages Mamoru to use his one attack, Lost Smoking Bomber,

and she gets rid of him. But Sailor Moon's powers aren't working, and she realizes it's due to the Silver Crystal, because it can only be used in the past, as Chibiusa told us. So she can't use her powers in the future. Wise Man and Prince Demande appear, and Prince Demande opens his third eye, rendering Usagi's powers completely useless, and then taking her away. He has a very busy season, doesn't he? We got the How I Met Your Mother vibes here, right? Like, it turns out this is How We Met Your Mother, backwards and forwards, all throughout time. And I do love the original Greek myth, right, of Selene the moon, who loved Endymion. And it's reflected kind of here, as we see everybody asleep, that in Greekreek mythology selene loved endymion he

was either a shepherd or an astronomer depending on which version you read it just needed to be a job that let him gaze at the moon all the time at night uh as she thought that he was so beautiful so hot she was down to trot for endymion's cock that uh she begged zeus she was like daddy please please please please give this guy eternal youth so I can always look at his hotness, make him immortal, and can we keep him asleep so I can look at him whenever I want? And so that kind of comes through here. Everyone's asleep, deep stasis, you know,

eternal youth until they awaken. True love's kiss and all that bullshit. Yeah. I like that she's the prince right who awakens him from the slumber the sleeping beauty because i mean he's always the damsel in distress that's what takeuchi i guess was setting out to do but yeah yeah most definitely and we also get to see him i guess he was he's been watching the future the past he's been watching the past um and so he was seeing how chibi yusa was acting and he's just like oh i'm so sorry that she was rude and i'm like rude rude she pulled a gun

on your wife that's more than rude like are you kidding me i'm like what i i look at? I'm like, what? I look at it. I'm like, after Tiny Jam, I'm just like, were they bad parents? Probably. They were probably bad parents. Yeah. Yeah. They were terrible because like Chibi Usa is literally like a terror. And at the end, they're like, we're just not going to raise her. You can just, our past selves will deal with this.

Whatever. We're done. Yeah. her you can just our past selves will deal with this whatever we're done yeah i thought it was so funny when mama was just like goes to king minion and he was just like he just said oh i promise that i will protect your daughter but i'm just but isn't that your daughter you you're that's what you're supposed to do like why are you promising it you're supposed to do it yeah i don't know they keep acting like they're separate people and in a way you know i guess that kind of makes sense and at the same time like but you're not you're not you're doing the things that ensures that

you're alive later so technically well and that's a part of it, right? We'll talk about that later. Yusagi being jealous of Chibiusa, but then also wanting Mamo to say that, oh, him and Yusagi will take care of Chibiusa just felt contradictory for me. And I've always been irritated with this like even when we were watching the original anime because i just girl like you can't be you why are you jealous of your

child like that's your child and stuff and i mean there's all these things going on like how do you have room i guess there's just duality but still like how do you have room? I guess there's just duality. But still, how do you have room to be jealous when you've got to be fighting the Black Moon people? Last you saw, Mars was on fire. And then Mercury, it was an ice cube. And the UFO took Jupiter. So, like, you have time to be

jealous of your- why? You have to think about your friends. But yeah, that's just- I've always disliked that part of her. Or at least within this season. It's just weird. I just, like, would not be jealous of a child. I don't know. It's just

a strange thing, and I don't know if it's like I don't know the difference of what's acceptable I guess in terms of some things based on what I've seen in some anime I don't know but um oh you know what ooh ooh I wonder if I wonder if Takahashi did this on purpose because you know how like usually

within this family dynamic it's the man that gets jealous of the child because the wife is giving the child all of its attention and so like and then we know that mamo is like the damsel in distress so maybe in this it's like also more of the parental figure and so then that's why Yusaki is jealous because it's she's just like oh reverse we're gonna change things up a little bit maybe I don't know no I think you are onto something there and I think that's absolutely right because we can see that Mamoru is like the much more you know sensitive one right um is also kind of especially when it comes to like crystal tokyo maybe

relegated to more of what people consider the feminine position when it comes to royalty because uh usagi's the one right who who's the ruler because she's the one with all the power so i think what you're saying is correct and absolutely especially because you know you get some of that oedipus stuff but like obviously reversed and I know Chloe will talk about that more later but I also think like it is kind of it's kind of fun to see Usagi being like that immature in a way but only in retrospect now that I'm older but at the same time I'm like this is still fucking weird but you can contrast that with who she becomes in the future who who's not worried about that, really.

And the difficulties that Chibiusa is having, wanting to be like her mother. And then we find out she's a 900-year-old little girl who hasn't been able to mature at all physically. And turns out, and I think it's tied to her inability to mature mentally right like it's a great metaphor that her body doesn't start aging and it does start doing so slight spoiler in later seasons but that's because her mental development was held back because she kept thinking she has to be exactly like her mother who she's like put on this pedestal and actually is literally in a pedestal technically a plinth but whatever now instead of learning to grow up and be the person that she is herself not her mom yeah i think there's a lot of

these themes start coming up stronger in these last few episodes of the season right especially and it's really well done wrapped in all the timey-wimey shit too like because it makes you unable to really take the firm grasp on it but it does come back to like what Eliana is saying with the Oedipus complex it's very much an Electra complex right where you have the story of Electra from mythology but you also have the full theory from Jung where basically neo-freudian psychology it's just the female version of the Oedipus complex where a girl becomes subconsciously sexually attracted to her father and hostile towards her mother. So there's a lot of that kind of going on in this season for Chibiusagi. And it's something that like when it's expanded in the full anime in the 90s, we see it more because we see her little shenanigans.

We see her instigations. We see her, as we said we said poisoning people pulling guns on people you know acting out um but like in the next episode so in act 21 in complication with nemesis we see a lot more of that as we realize like the pressure that chibi yusa is under right like she's under and and it's the same pressure that usagi's under like that's the funny irony of the time traveling is like everything that chibi yusa feels pressure over is literal same stuff that her mom feels the same pressure on because her mom has been putting this pressure on her her entire 900 years without her mom realizing she's doing that in the past and the future and because her mom's under the same exact fucking pressure because she has to rule this warring moon kingdom that's tearing itself apart make the right choices

to oh put everyone in a coma so that they can be saved by past her who's trying to fix all of her mistakes that she doesn't know she's trying to fix or that she doesn't know that she's made yet whoa whoa it's a lot it's a lot yeah and i mean let's let's dig into that right so episode 21 complication nemesis um we get some reveals the black moon's descended from phantom you know an evil that they had sealed away before and usagi learns that neo queen serenity survived by crystallizing herself which i have opinions on that i don't know that she did put everyone in a coma that's why they're disappearing. Just herself is saved.

Anyways, Queen Surrendered, Prince Damande explains more about the Black Crystal and its powers. And then Usagi is trying to protect the Guardians, can't transform, briefly awakens them. And then Chibiusa ponders her loneliness and peer pressure. And we get how she was led to steal the crystal. And then she thinks

that no one cares about her and ends up being seduced by wise man's promises aka phantom yeah the the choice for her to go with phantom slash wise man slash whatever you want to call him any of his 80 names like that choice to walk right into his clutches and listen to him of course she's going to fall for it like she's it's easy she's i mean what she's got to be an ageless little god girl she's what doesn't transform till she's almost 900 to a thousand years old and she's supposed to command this moon kingdom that is tearing itself apart because her mother loved the earth boy and she might be an unfit ruler right is how people she thinks people see her because she's unable to transform, unable to command her power.

And that and then her abandonment issues, right? Of knowing that her mom would be kind of willing to maybe make sure she's ruling the country and let her run amok and just let the Senshi deal with her instead. And how that kind of adds to her turn and run and that she's like is made fun up by people in her kingdom for her size we see that in those flashbacks that people like actively are cruel to her and that small lady isn't always a compliment sometimes it's people being mean to her which is wild because how do you make fun of like the child of the people who rule where you live right like how are you that bold well also i think that does say a lot like okay like the child of the people who rule where you live right like how are you that bold well also i think that does say a lot like okay like the whole kingdom is tearing itself apart like

maybe usagi didn't do a great job is what we're learning and she's trying to correct that right like i don't know it kind of sounds like from what we've learned so far there were some mistakes made there i mean people are mean to the the royal family's children every now and then now, so. Yeah, but not to their face and, like, pushing them up on a wall. Yeah. That's treason, dude. That's treason. Right.

You know, I mean, since we know she's got guns, where's the gun then, Chibiusa? Like, don't let people bully you in your kingdom. Kick them out the kingdom. They should have been the wise man. Sealed them away. Like you can go to nemesis. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Agreed. It is kind of weird. Yeah. I think that. Why is she even around these commoners also? Like, is she still in school? I think like.

Right. She doesn't need to go to school anymore. Right. She's 900. Even if she has an age, she's gotten an education i'm sure she could be palace school yeah and honestly if i was in her shoes i would be a terror as well quite literally like 900 to a thousand years old i'm always small but like what like she stopped at an age it's like pre-pubescent age? Ugh, like, no way.

I would wreak havoc on purpose. Because why is this my life? Why am I not transforming? Why are these people bullying me? And why aren't, where are the soldiers? Why aren't y'all doing something about it? Maybe it's, like, the time of, maybe there's a metaphor I'm fucking reaching. That in times of peace, without any conflict and stuff, conflict, while it can be hard and hurtful, can spur growth.

No, that's true, too. No, that's a very good point, especially for a kingdom that is facing turmoil. I meant personally. No, it's both. It can be both also i'd have to say that dimonday coveting a married a married woman with a child is wild to me you saw her one time like he's into milson that's why we stand and not really but kind of but also no he's he's super creepy this episode he's very not cool but yeah yeah yeah like a lot of this season is about how controlling people and making them love you is not it's not an expression of

love right and it's made clear when yeah bondi does this because he's pretty like he's pretty rapey and semi roofies her to get her there yeah um and he's just like i wanted those fierce eyes to beg me and it it shows that it's about power right like it's not about actual expressions of love and though i will say that there's something weird in the animation here once more i want to say it's this episode or next episode where like when usagi is feeling sad and crying she like holds against herself but then we do a close-up of her bosom and i'm like why is this happening who is this for anyways yeah yeah i don't really know who it's for i think i wrote this later in a different episode but it just applies to demon day i think he could be a serial killer in like real life because him just being so obsessed with Usagi and then stealing her and then changing her clothes.

Oh, yeah. And then it gets to the point where he's just like, oh, you can't kill her. Only I can kill her. Yeah, it's all about like he gets to possess her. Definitely covet was the perfect word for that, too. Like very much so. Yeah. So we're going to start in the interest of time some of these episodes basically flow into one another so for example 22 and 23 we got hidden agenda nemesis and wise man where you know you've got them hearing sapphire and rubius talk and then uh usagi's like caught by damande and the silver crystal

overloads we have we see the silver the black crystal reactor it forces rubius to flee wiseman calls him a coward eats him whole yunosenshi go through the space time door to the commotion and usagi learns what happened with tuxedo mask as she goes to find chibiusa because she wants to save them too and then in 23 we have usagi and the senshi searching for mamoru and shibiusa and then usagi has a vision of black lady and passes out black lady though she reveals who she is to demonde and sapphire and then in the past usagi wakes up at home and then things seem like okay we're resting for a bit but they don't they have to return to the future showdown fight with black lady and then neo queen serenity sends a powerful light

from the crystal palace locking you know throwing black lady out which you know why did chibiusa not do this to everyone back then um and then the sentry arrive and the black lady summons wise man and then we have the final big boss battle i love that we're kind of looking at the silver crystal now as a philosopher's stone right the silver crystal as a philosopher's stone is kind of a cool idea and that it's very like not only is Usagi the most sought after and coveted but also this stone and that Chibiusa in all of her like grief and all of her pain and wanting to be independent and wanting to be seen as a real person doesn't realize that she's handing that

access over to them it's very it's very sad i'm like no jv usa just come home we love you what are you doing she's getting cool clothes that's so true yeah that's what she's doing isn't that and it's what i did when i was like 13 you know that's what I wanted. So... And eyeliner. She's getting eyeliner too. I think I have the episode, this happens in, correct? But, you know, Sailor Moon, I love that she's able to quickly see through Saphir's manipulations, the ones that aren't even actually magical in nature. Like, they're not illusions. Because I think people love to tell young women, especially, you know, this bad thing

happened because of you, right? Because people were so entranced by them or your power power or whatever and sailor moon starts to fall for it she's like dang was it really my fault that like all those people died is it really just because of my power is it better that i'm not here and then she's like wait nope that's bullshit it's definitely actually your fault and not my fault for existing because you're the one actually doing the things and killing the people and sending space time bombs so it's not my fault for existing because you're the one actually doing the things and killing the people and sending space-time bombs so it's not my fault at all yeah i'm glad she was able to like power through that honestly yeah because it just sucks when people try to like gaslight you into feeling like you are the bad guy when it's like i'm not the bad guy you're the bad

guy like that's why your friend like ruby is that's why his ass got eaten before there was attack on titan there was salem oh my gosh yes true true the eating yeah rip but then also touching on chibi usa so she turns into a grown woman sort of i guess physically and then just decides to get with her whole ass daddy that's your daddy like your your dad i it's it's so weird and the whole thing i just like just i i still don't I get the theory that I guess you know the Freudian and Jungian theories that it's coming off of but I just like I don't I still am so weirded out by it and I don't know I guess like if you look at it in the context of she's never matured and you can still see she's acting immature despite the grown body here right

so like this is her only idea of what she thinks love is supposed to be like but essentially also she's just trying to in terms of that like looking at as not necessarily electro but like a the edible complex she's trying to take on the role she's trying to fill and take the spot of her mom right and and usurp her in that sort of fantasy that's like then it makes sense in that aspect like not that she actually desires her father but this is the only person who's shown me love and i'm trying to be my mother but it's still weird i don't know because i because i kiss because she does kiss her she kisses her daddy and it's like i know people do that not like that that was like a zaddy kiss not like

that yeah that was a zaddy kiss yeah not like oh this is my dad this is zaddy like no like this like complex is something that starts like you know when you're like three to six years old when you have that like cute behavior where daughters are spending time with their dad supposed to be like flirting kisses cheek kisses holding hands all that stuff like that is really that's that stage of psychosexual development so i think it points to like that stage of her life however moon people progress instead of earth people or half earth people i guess i should say but however moon people progress maybe it was like 300 to 600 years old. This is when happened.

But when you think about like the time that Usagi and Mamo are absent from her life in the future, I think that's what it's supposed to be reflective of, right? That like, because they were absent at this time and because she was sent back and she was parentified, right? To have to send back and like figure it all out and go between her teenage parents and her way adult parents and all this.

Like, I think that time has fucked her up. Like, that right there, that sliver of time is what's fucking her up the most. That, like, even though there's, because, like, that's a real part of this, right, that, like, we see her at the very end. She comes back immediately from the future after time travels back. that like we see her at the very end she comes back immediately from the future after she time travels back so i think the time travel is the big key there because like even though we see her come back it's still something and that comes to the paradoxical question it's still something that happened to her whether she feels it in the moment or not yeah i mean i don't know if she had to i think it's more she they never let her take on any responsibility till much later on in life because and they they sheltered her and I think the crystal palace is like and maybe it's meant

to be an emblematic of that sheltering because she then she doesn't ever like try and mature and again conflict causes why would she conflict helps yeah I mean like if I never had to fucking take care of anything in my life i mean why would i start like no comment yeah anyways well let's talk about the next two episodes uh before the finale right attack black lady episode 24 which uh black lady wise man saphir and prince demande appear to attack the senshi black lady reveals with the second monolith appearing everything's going to disappear she orders tuxedo mask to attack sailor moon under their control and does. Black Lady summons a third crystal monolith to push into the

Earth. Prince Damande breaks free of Wise Man's control and kills Saphir, and then attacks Wise Man, which we then learn Wise Man was a hooded skeleton puppet, and Nemesis lowers from the clouds, saying Wise Man was merely Nemesis this entire time. Sailor Moon tries to protect everyone, but Black Lady commands M mamo steal the silver crystal he breaks free from her control but it's too late meanwhile pluto senses things are bad but can't leave her post due to the taboos of guarding time so then diana's like what if i a cat guarded time instead would that be good would that be a good way to fix this uh and so diana the kitten guards the door instead of the giant tall mommy space senshi and back at crystal tokyo black lady has both the past

and future crystals prince demonde attacks and steals them from her once more again she just opens on up she's like here's everything you need. You want it to take over the world with? And then we have Showdown with Death Phantom in 25, where Prince Demande hopes to destroy everything with the crystal, and Pluto acts quickly, sacrificing herself to stop time, stop the crystals from colliding. Seeing Pluto die shakes Chibiusa free of that control of being Black Lady, and she has a transformation sequence mama wakes up as well apologizing for some of his crimes somewhat um maybe not making out this

teenage time traveling daughter prince demonde tries to attack nemesis and dies and nemesis reveals he's death phantom and explains how he's absorbed all these little evil identities and now he's just this huge swarming mass of evil again pick one you know man like i get it one or two but four seven seven names eight names 24 names my god is it even like are they even different like isn't this all just like literally the same person i'm like yeah like we know this is not a new reveal like we just said that two episodes ago like we already know this. We know who you are. Now we're swooping, though, towards you,

which is fun. Fun animations. I love that great bit where Sailor Moon tries to protect everyone, right? She's once more the usual, out there sacrificing herself for everybody to try to fix things. And her and Pluto, right? It brought a tear to my

eye because they both have this unconditional love for their friends and for their colleagues here for Chibiusa right it was a both of them was a very maternal sacrifice for love to save their daughter save everyone else and kind of you know those hard choices that she's making to rule a kingdom in the future and she'd be used to carrying that i mean all that ptsd and pain they are soldiers right like at the end of the day they are soldiers they are not just some girls with magical powers they're sailor soldiers they're fighting a war and watching kind of the difference in the ptsd and pain that they go through compared to like the black moon and compared to all these other baddies that just die off or they do evil

for fun do crimes be gay um they're these crimes hit deeper and these like things they have to do to save everyone hit much deeper for the scouts that sacrifice is just so full of love and so different than what all their enemies stand for than what nemesis slash phantom slash whatever his name is stands for right and i just end up feeling bad honestly for pluto that you know throughout this season everybody is breaking rules like notoriously breaking them all of the time but as soon as pluto breaks a rule then she dies yeah okay it was and they're just like you can rest now and i'm like that's not a good that's not a good reward bring her back right like she should be able to rest that reminds me of when people say oh i'll rest when i'm dead i mean you don't have a choice like yeah

you like are you even because you're dead like are you resting you just somewhere else she's like thank you for your service and i'm like that's bullshit i mean i guess i guess that it gets addressed but i also just don't understand i don know. It's kind of hand-waved. I will say, I like that Usagi, you know, when they're like, just give us the silver crystal and yourself and, you know, we'll fix everything. Everything will be fine. The people that you love will live. I like that, like, even though she's sacrificing herself by fighting,

she's not, that's not the sacrifice that she makes. She doesn't, like, give in in that way. She's like like that's also bullshit because if i do that then how will i save everyone else and i do think that there's an aspect in which you know young women but also especially like within asian cultures east asian southeast asian um you know they're like oh women should like self-martyr themselves and give up everything just for like the people that they love give everything of yourself to fix that and that's something that i actually like that a different magical girl anime kind of bucks against

um which i don't know that the dialogue around that anime has been overtaken by men taking it the wrong way but anyways um i'm talking about magica magica but anyways um so i'd like that she doesn't do that but yeah I do want to know what was Diana gonna do like if someone came to that door she's like I may just be a cat and I don't have magical powers like you

but I can watch the door for a second I'm like if someone came to the door what was Diana gonna do? I think she would just, she would attack. She would fight. Because, like, you know, Chibi Usa left her just high and dry in this palace. That's true.

And stuff. Where is the food? Where is somebody changing her litter box? Like, I feel like she would be very upset you know and so she's just gonna redirect that anger of being neglected on whoever's trying to get into the door that's yeah yeah that's all she can do i just like don't see her winning though do you think she would win well right right she wouldn't win but she would give it a good she'll give it a good try yeah you know if she could just go for the throat like if she did that maybe yeah because like i think sailor

pluto could win i don't know if diana could i don't know diana was chilling yeah well we're talking about how Chibi Usa kissing Mamo and it's like he's kissing the fruit of his looms. It's very weird. Right? It's very weird. It's very weird. I think that was a joke.

He didn't even apologize for battering Yusagi with the scepter like it was just like like you know which why come to your senses like why would you why would you do that like it happens like every season I think he apologized for only hitting her but not like I guess he was like kind of roofied also,

but I'm just like if you get taken every season, maybe you should just sit on the side. You should sit this one out. Yeah. Yeah. Just talk to your stone friends.

I'm glad they made a cameo this season yeah yeah it was cute to see them but then also just like dang can you come to the battle agreed where are you yeah like you wait until you get this latest update. He was kissing on his child. Like you should have been there to stop it. So that puts us at the finale of the season, which is replay at 26, never ending. And we pick back up with Sailor Moon delivering a blow to Nemesis. They're transported back to barren

future Earth, but Usagi is missing. Mamo's whisked away to wherever she is. Neo Queen Serenity and Endymion come to meet the Senshi, telling them don't chase after them. And meanwhile, Sailor Moon, Sailor Chibiusa, face Nemesis after Tuxedo Mask and Moon summon Chibiusa with their love and shit. Neo queen serenity gives the sentient sailor moon some new powers before heading back home to the past and usagi and neo queen serenity meet face to face it's a sweet moment neo queen serenity is also proud of chibiusa for breaking free and transforming and destroying evil and all that she tells her to go take care of her friends gives her her scepter which becomes the cutie moon rod everyone has reunions

and makeouts they all kind of meet their past selves they return to earth and chibiusa's brooch updates to the cosmic heart compact and she has a really cool time travel sequence where she travels back returning immediately with a letter from the neo queen saying she is to train with the senshi i really love sailor moon and neo queen serenity being like you know i really do actually want to see my other self just breaking all the rules yeah and then neo queen serenity like thanking sailor moon for saving everyone and i don't know i think there's something there's something about this that inherently ties into a little bit of what happens in the final season um but we're trying to keep these spoiler free but also i'm not sure nako takeichi actually thought through those connections and those themes to be honest i don't know that she ever

does any of these like that that deep um but i also i don't know i just like the idea that they broke all the rules to do that because in that i like the idea of being able to thank your past self for having the strength to make it through all those difficulties and then to pass that strength on to your future self. I think it's sweet. Yeah, I think if I had the chance, I would definitely go and like hug my past self and just be like, you know, we go through so much shit, but we made it. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, it's gonna turn out fine you know there's something really great about that paradox right that like they aren't supposed to they can't go talk to themselves

they shouldn't be talking to themselves because it does create a paradox and it could rip the fabric of time space and all that good stuff apart but there's also that very human nature slash moon person nature i suppose of like wanting to and wanting to know and in a sense it's kind of like what drives chibi yusa to become black lady right of that like wanting to know the truth and wanting to understand the truth and wanting to know like am i a good person am i doing the right thing am i doing the right thing and it's interesting too because then it becomes that great question of how does this affect the scouts and the usagi is moving forward right like how does this affect them and how they

viewed this event does it shape them does it change them does their ptsd from this event count or not in the future slash past like we don't know right what that really does for them and i think it really circles around well especially with all the reveals of the family and the arc of usagi right being so annoyed by chibiusa to then her needing her and her loving her and her learning to love her and learning like it's okay that chibiusa's around as long as she doesn't make out with dad um she does again yep she does again but but otherwise it's a really beautiful arc of that of like also because we do see usagi like start to mature more and more through this series i feel like from season one to the very end like she becomes a very

more grown and complex person who starts to understand the world and you start this show with like a usagi that has nothing but teenage thoughts and is brainwashed and doesn't know what she's done what she's capable of how powerful she can be she doesn't believe in herself in that way people are constantly talking down to her they're like you're a fat cry baby all you do is eat which is the same thing people say to me but i still persevere but like i get that you know like everyone talks down to her but now here she is she can pull off these great big magical saving the universe isms and um it's nice that she gets to take that moment to talk to her future self and just kind of know in her heart like i am doing the right

thing i'm going the right way the trajectory is good that's so good absolutely i think it was just really beautiful to just see them come together like that and then also be emotional so chibi usa and then usagi being emotional about like being separated and stuff um because it just took usagi a while to get used to her but then it got to a point eventually where she's like, I can't imagine life without you. But my thing is, you're crying about it. Like, I don't want to be separated. Why don't you make her? They do.

And it's not even. You could just make her. It's not even that much longer, right? Like, I think they said, what, they got married. She became queen. They got married. And then they had tributes and not long after that. I'm like

it's only what another i don't know 10 years or something right and then she's back anyway where's the promise ring yeah for real where's the promise ring mama she wants you a child like just start practicing eventually she's gonna come like she's gonna show up i don't know yeah i'm just like why cry because technically she's still like she's gonna come like she's gonna show up I don't yeah I'm just like wow crap cause technically she's still like she's still inside of you so like she's still with you yeah

I don't know well let's let her finish school you know finish school and then we'll talk about you having this baby but well I guess she's like having her mom take care of it because her mom's been brainwashed into thinking like that's how this is who we take care that's your cousin and you know i'm i'm happy that this dad that their dad has he must have such a great income

you're right to just accept these children yeah he just takes he's got his stay at home wife who's helping raise the children and doing all this labor and then taking care of the three kids the economy was way different in the 90s is all I'm saying it actually was

oh god I remember when gas was a dollar I hardly remember those times. God. Overall, I love season two. I do love season two. It's not season three, but I do love season two. Yeah. Not everyone can be

season three. It was helpful. Yeah. I think season two is just really fun just to get to see all of these different dynamics, meet Chibiusaa also kind of get through like this aspect of saying no to people controlling you and staying true to yourself yeah i just love that about this season and the lore right we get all that lore like we get the we start to get the unraveling of the story of understanding where the story is going and these star-crossed lovers and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

It's the shape of the story, right? It gives you a really big shape where the first season was just like magical girl transformations, power of friendship, power of love. We're doing this now. Season two is actually in it and showing you the stakes and what's actually happened to put our characters here. So I do love the magical girl transformations part. Absolutely. Favorite. Love it.

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