Girls Gone Canon Cast - Magical Girls Gone Canon Episode 6 — Sailormoon Eternal, Part 2

Episode Date: February 23, 2024

Wrap up the SuperS arc with us, called Eternal in Sailormoon Crystal. Join us as we talk about the end of the Dead Moon Circus, more dream stuff, fairytales and mythology, and what this kind of means for Sailormoon StarS/Cosmos.  BIG SPECIAL THANKS TO SANRIXIAN AND WARREN DUDSON FOR THIS IMAGE OF US AS MAGICAL GIRLS! --- Eliana's twitter: https://twitter.com/arhythmetric Eliana's reddit account: https://www.reddit.com/user/glass_table_girl Eliana's blog: https://themanyfacedblog.wordpress.com/ Chloe's twitter: https://twitter.com/liesandarbor Chloe's blog: www.liesandarborgold.com Intro: "Glitter Blast" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

hello and welcome to magical girls gone canon episode 6 sailor moon eternal part 2 welcome back i am one of your hosts chloe and i am another one of your hosts, Chloe. And I am another one of your hosts, Ileana. We're here to finish up Sailor Moon Eternal. For the historians, it's February in 2024, and regrettably, we still do not have a Sailor Cosmos announcement in the United States of America. And yes, we are still sorry for our implications that we did have one earlier in the episodes before. We are sorry swear that i saw it and also i think everyone expects that it would have been out by now but you know now it's just the sailor moon eternal wait eternal waiting for sailor cosmos to make

an international release and i know that there are fan subs out there you know people are probably like watching it i just don't feel like i just am waiting. I think it could get a theatrical release. And I'm kind of wondering if that's what's happening. Like, that's why it hasn't been released. I think it has the potential for getting a theatrical release. And I live in like a real city. So I might be able to see it this time. Yeah. So like, I just think that it could happen because I don't know, every now and then they do because i don't know every now and then they do that right like every now and then with the really big animes they'll do that granted for example like evangelion the fourth rebuild film was released on amazon prime i don't know like a

year or so many many months earlier but then it did get a theatrical release but it was only for one day i think sealer moon would get probably, I don't know, four days or something. But I think it's possible. I would love that. I didn't even really consider that. So the hype builds. Thank you, Eliana, for building the hype up. And, you know, although we are now kind of after this wrapped up with the current published reiteration of Sailor Moon, up until Cosmos, we await Cosmos. And you never know, there might be some other stuff that happens for us on Magical Girls Gone Canon. We've tossed some ideas around, but I think that up until Cosmos, we will wait for Cosmos first and then we'll explore some of those ideas.

So this is what a special limited edition podcast for now. For now. For now. Yeah, like you said, the tail can grow in the telling just like george says but yep another published work finished i mean this one is finished it's just not in the u.s here yeah uh well as we get into part two of eternal i want to shout out once more if you have only found us through this podcast, congrats. Hello.

Thanks for joining. We've really appreciated you listening. But you can also check out our A Song of Ice and Fire read-through podcast, where we cover A Song of Ice and Fire POV by POV character, one chapter at a time. We're also right now on our Patreon covering another magical girl in my opinion named katniss the girl on fire yes we are finishing up the hunger games uh our final the hunger games novel episode will be out by the end of the month for patrons in the stranger tier and above at patreon.com slash girls gone canon we've done three episodes so far, and we're kind of excited to move on to Catching Fire after this. Yeah, when we say that we're doing our final Hunger Games episode,

we mean of the book, not the series. It's a little confusing. And we also cover a couple of other things, right? Like, for example, we finished up our read-through of the His Dark Materials trilogy, and also even our coverage of the television show. We did cover the first book of the new trilogy, La Belle Sauvage, and we'll return with The Secret Commonwealth at some point. But yeah, so we cover a lot of different stuff. And if maybe part of what you really like about Sailor Moon is the Greek mythology part,

we have also on our Patreon covered some of the Madeline Miller books. Yeah, Circe and of course Achilles, the song of Achilles, I should say. The song of, the song of, comma. I love those fucking books. And I think she's writing Persephone is the new one, right? She's coming out with Persephone. I know it was reading in our discord, you know, I think she's coming out with Persephone. I know it was reading in our Discord. You know, I think she's had a little couple setbacks on it, but I think that, oh, I can't wait for that one. That one's going to be awesome with a good twist like she always does, I'm sure. Lots to listen to over at our Patreon for those bonus episodes.

And we have a couple other perks over there. Check it out. Like our Thunder tier who gets lifetime Discord server access it's a private discord server everyone's always over there chatting about what they're watching what they're reading what they're eating the most important three things in life i would say come join us come join us and be a thunder to your patron yeah but for now this is what we got this is what we got a sailor moon it's just like in the 90s where they ended it after the fourth well fifth season i guess i don't know how do we count the demon tree episode demon tree stuff but anyways it's just like that it is no i really liked part two i will say the

pacing especially for the things happening in that in this part of the movie. I think the pacing's a little slower and more drawn out in some aspects, and it works in some ways, it doesn't work in others. I was kind of surprised by how little actually happens in the second part versus how long it takes for those little to happen, and I'm not complaining, I'll take what I can get of content, but it was interesting to me pacing-wise. I do think overall, big improvement on subtitles I don't know if you noticed but far fewer mistakes on the English subs and overall the tone the color the art style was really beautiful I liked the

color especially it popped so much but the animation was definitely just reusing scenes from the show like on and off just stock and here's this transformation and i had to laugh i had to laugh it's not even that but also like they just did not animate some parts and it's like they just they just like did a still and then someone drew it and they just didn't animate it or the animation was like you know when you do a powerpoint and you're like i'm gonna just slide slide the text in there and that's what they did with the mirror at one point in elysian you're like slide the mirror and i was like where did you come from there were some of those that were like artistic

looking choices and then some of them that i'm like what just happened here and i i kind of wonder how many of those were artistic choices and how many were what just happened here moments. I think some of the ones that are like artistic choices are the ones that are like very much exactly recreating some of the frames from the manga. Like a lot of the scenes, not only are they reused from the show, they are just literally composed the exact same way as it is in the manga. Like, you know, where they run up against the mirror or like when Sailor Saturn is reminiscing about like oh I remember this thing about Silver Millennium and then she also like powerpoint slides up

and is like hunched over and has like this stylized swirl around her that's from the manga or like when all the sentries are doing their crystal power thing the way that's composed or like the entire sequence between Queen Serenity and baby usagi crying about a nightmare that's literally shot for shot the manga as well yeah back to back of

queen serenity and queen the helenia also but it's just kind of funny because like as i said in part one of sealer moon eternal i read this so much on the toilet, so I know these frames by heart. But I think it's kind of funny. I actually disagree on the pacing. I found it too fast. Interesting. I was like, wow, one second, you know,

Chibius is so jazzed. She's like, no, I know Helios isn't dead. And then the very next second, literally the next frame is Mars or someone going like, something's wrong. is so jazzed she's like no i know helios isn't dead and then the very next second they're like the literally the next frame is mars or someone going like something's wrong and there is no weight given to the fact that we're like wow i'm so glad helios isn't dead or we keep going from like one outfit change to back to the you know formal dress wear back to the sailor wear, back to the Sailor Fuku, back to the dress wear. And like, we just switched all over that. And I just felt like we went to so many different places in a very short

amount of time. And again, they just like swipe things into the frame. So I actually found it too fast. It like needed, I don't know, just like more padding or filler, you know, actually more storytelling, I think is part of it. I agree with that. I think my problem was actually, I mean, the pacing was all over the place. And like I said, I felt like there wasn't a lot. Well, but that's more what I mean. Like nothing was happening. Although there was a lot of changes, things were disconnected, disjointed. And like, there just wasn't as much for as much time as they took to tell that i feel like they could have used that time more effectively to your point like the filler i wanted a little

bit of filler and weight to some of the characters and i think that the most weight we get as we'll talk about is like chibiusa and usagi and some saturn introspection and mammo introspection but like otherwise everyone else was kind of sayonara on their own. Yeah, yeah, it's just, I don't know. It's just like really fast. And that's because they're just basically doing a one on one adaptation of the manga. And yeah, we want like something that's faithful to the manga, I guess, but maybe with a little creativity. That's all right. And where's the the connective tissue?

You know, the the good connective tissue was what I was missing. It was more like things happening. Yeah, and I get the sense like, you know, if this is how it was for eternal, which is, you know, the same amount of time probably to cover an entire arc, I think we could probably expect it to be the same in cosmos. Yeah, it's about 80 minutes per film, I think, right? Yeah. So I don't think like, you know, I think it's just like, got to set expectations for that then.

Well, we open up the episode with Sailor Saturn restoring Hotaru's memories of her previous life. And it's actually like a really touching set of events. It's kind of it opens up almost step 30 right it's like very alternate universe you don't know where why the fuck you're with haruka and michiru and hodaru and like why you should care at first because they're having a happy little life they're like oh baby saturn just outgrew all these clothes oh no and it's kind of cute and there's still a tinge of like you know like weird going on you know that something's going on baby saturn is absolutely cute with those big fucking violet eyes i'm like

oh you're so stupid cute with your big head and she's very dune coated very saint alia of the knife coated she's a child that's too advanced for her age and unmanageable and out of hands for the parents and also i'm quite obviously not making this this dune reference up because then we get that line from her that the sleeper must awaken oh interesting interesting is that how it is in the manga eliana do they make that joke in the manga or is it only in the show i don't remember it could be a translation thing i'll have to check that part again because i because it's literally a dune reference i don't think i remember like the language as much and plus also the translators would be different between, like, what exists now and, like, current publications in the manga versus the ones in, like, the 90s.

But I have not watched this movie nor read this book. But I was like, is this, like, Renesmee? Which came way later. Came much, much later. What's really funny is that was in my note originally like originally i wrote that as my note and i deleted it literally i don't even know what i'm referencing but i know it exists because there's so many memes about it and that did happen of course after sealer mood and so forth came out but just funny yeah absolutely it's and that's the same idea right

like renez me is absolutely ripped from dune so are most things from star wars but the same idea yes and oh okay sorry i was like thinking i was like star wars and twilight not not things i think of as having they're very similar you know in the anyways uh let's all right back to these stars star wars there's that trippy little scene of saturn and chibiusa's friendship and that like ghost of them playing as hotaru's playing the violin i thought that was really beautiful and it alludes a little bit to like helios later right and his death slash undeath true and like the sailor guardian the mini guardians as well i guess and it's like a sad little mini world where they could have had a happy life, right?

All of them. Here you have a whole new chance to regrow baby Hotaru and do it right and take care of her right. But sorry, there's a world to be saved. I don't make the rules. So I'm going to need the outer senshi to fucking focus because here comes the fucking plot to whip them into shape also where did they get this house from questions i have right and there's a lot of little like side comments going on and we're going to talk about some of these sexy little outfits there's that great shot of like you know haruka's boobies yeah yeah oh man it's a hot little outfit i was like oh daddy yeah daddy uranus more like haruka

daddy yeah haruka daddy that was i was like sitting there and i'm like mm-hmm anyway uh just the curvature you know like very sexy and very like you know masculinity and femininity can exist in one place and make me wet both times. You know, it's great. It's a great world we live in. Saturn's making all these fucking references on top of the Dune stuff, by the way, like there's an Einstein reference that gets made. And then she also makes this real, yeah, I'm like, who loaded the computer into this fucking toddler's brain? Again, it's Dune. But so not only is there the Einstein reference, but then she says this line from a Yates poem. And I knew I knew it. And I was like,

where do I know that line from? She says, and what rough beast it's our come round at last. She says, and what rough beast and I'm like, wait a second, I know and what rough beast. It's a fucking Yates poem. It's one of his poems from post World War I, the second coming. And it kind of, the poem itself kind of predicts like time's up for humanity. This is the end of civilization as we know it. It's all about to be undone.

And that's great, of course, setting up what we're about to watch, right? Because civilization, humanity once more are at stake, yada, yada, being undone. We're watching it over and over again in this story. So a couple, here's the last, there's two big stanzas for this. And the last one is, Surely some revelation is at hand, surely the second coming is at hand. The second coming! Hardly are those words out when a vast image out of spiritus mundi troubles my sight somewhere in the sands of a desert. A shape with lion body and the head of a

man, a gaze blank and pitiless as the sun, is moving its slow thighs while all about it reel shadows of the indignant desert birds. The darkness drops again, but now I know that twenty centuries of stony sleep were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle. And what rough beast, its hour come round at last, slouches towards Bethlehem to be born. Why, it's Nahalania. He didn't write that part. I did, but... Yeah, yeah. And I mean, isn't Hotaru holding a little book, right, of the Yates poems or something throughout this so great call on on connecting those and I I don't think I would have and I didn't you know I don't

have this poem memorized I'm actually really bad at that so I just know specific parts that I'm like that's a Yates poem that's a fuck and I just knew it I knew that was Yates I know I'd read it before he's not really my type usually though yeah mean, I think a lot of you are probably familiar to some extent, maybe with like a first part of this poem with the things fall apart, the center cannot hold. Famous, famous line lends itself to a book. But great call. Great call. a lot of philosophy going on in this episode actually yeah in this part of the movie i was kind of surprised there's a lot of little references to philosophers and a lot of little things that are like heavily debated by philosophers and uh you can definitely see the set dressing for revelations for some of the grecian roman mythology lots of stuff happening yeah and i like what you're saying here also about the second coming because now now I'm like thinking about it. And it's obviously Queen Metalia and Queen Beryl are enemies from their past. But like Nahalania is one from their past, right?

Versus how the other, the dark moon, they were from the future. Dead moon from the past. And then Pharaoh 90 just wilded out. That's it. Just wilded out. Yeah yeah when you put it that way and you look at the scape of them right it's like a whole timeline of like failed attempts in the future and in the past and in the present and how the moon kingdom has had to kind of evade them yeah and i don't know sometimes i'm like did queen serenity do a good job unsure i feel like even here we start to

unravel some of that that like she did the best job she could which is akin to yusagi right as we see her do the best job she can as a fucking 14 teenager born again teenager so hotaru gives haruka michiru and satsuna their crystals. And then Sailor Uranus, Neptune, Pluto, and Saturn, they are transformed into their super sailors just in time to fight the Amazonas Quartet with the other Senshi. I love that the outer Senshi do come to help and choose to help of their own volition

in this part of the story. I think that's really important, right? Where we've seen them be really resistant in the past, where they're played as obstinate and stubborn as unhelping in some aspects. And you could see it really in Venus's face when they arrive. It's really sweet, actually. Like Venus has this look like, what? And then she's like, oh my god, you came.

Obviously, we knew they would. But the girls didn't know they were going to come. Like, how would they have? Even this, like the outer century, they really wanted to join too. They're like crying. They're like, I miss everyone. They didn't know they were gonna come. Like, how would they have? Even the, like, the Outer Century, they really wanted to join, too. They're, like, crying. They're like, I miss everyone. They didn't know they were gonna be there, either, because they're like, uh, what are we gonna do? Go die? We can't fight.

Yeah. At least you can die together, you know? Oh, shit. I mean that in a good way, though. Like, at least, like, if you, all you can do is sit aside and watch your loved ones fight and die alone, at least you can go be with them yeah i mean they'd probably give it a try too they'd probably be like i guess let's go fight with absolutely nothing yeah there is one change here even from i think the 90s and i think it might be in the manga as well that saturn gives

them their crystals and their superpowers, which I don't mind it. I think it's fine. But also it's interesting because usually becoming a super sailor scout, there's a lot of tongue twisters in this episode. Becoming a super sailor scout usually requires like all this introspection and understanding of yourself in the past and like revealing something new you've learned about yourself that catalysts you into your super sailor transformation. But although we don't get anything new about their personalities or any sort of flavor or filling

here we do get a sailor Saturn transformation which has never happened ever good point ever so really am I upset no I'm happy to have the sailor Saturn transformation yeah they you know what they gave me a great trade-off.

I'm happy to avoid the Innocenti having realizations about themselves if it means Sailor Saturn transformation. I just think it's so funny because on one hand, I feel as though they had it really easy compared to the Innocenti all had like near death experiences to get their power upgrade right they had to go through a whole trial to do that and a lot of turmoil but on the other hand i'm also like well they did have to go through parenthood and raising a baby and going through all that and changing diapers so maybe that was the trial in and of itself because that sounds pretty difficult too yeah you right you right that is a trial that might be a better trial that's how they get their super sailor transformation yeah they earned it by like not having any sleep at night shout out to you parents out there even if you don't have fucking super genius hotaru and you're in your

crib right now i'm sure your child rocks because of you yeah and i mean they didn't have to deal for it as long obviously but you know michiru did lose her vintage plates and like that's that's rough i feel that um yeah i'm also very here we were talking about the outfits earlier i'm very here for satsuna's like mesh top and bra outfit they're looking hot get you a girl who can do both she's got her like doctor like doctor coat thing and then she's out here in her like 90s rave outfit let's go let's go she's like satsuna and abby from ncis are shaking hands and doing shots together they're like goth girl doctor what up that's um yeah goth mommy no every single outer

sense she is like killing it yeah right even like saturn when she ages up again later like i'm like good for you like you got your like mini baby uh wednesday adams slash lydia deets slash i'm also like wow. They had her wearing this children's dress when she comes out. Here I am! I love that she's sitting there respecting her three moms.

Sometimes a family really is three moms and one fucking psycho child that grows too fast with too much knowledge. Yes, that's what it sounds like. Sailor Mercury, Mars, Jupiter, and Venus then are released from Pala Pala's vines. Sailor Moon and Tuxedo Mask are mortally wounded by Zirconia. And then Helios teleports Usagi and Mamoru, who are in baby form, to Elysian to save their lives. then they have this like super cute scene of them as like babies

talking about their dreams yeah they're so cute and chibi they're a little baby I love Mamo's like I want to be a doctor Usagi and I'm like okay tuberculosis on legs like good luck being a doctor you're the one that's going to be in the hospital bed depending

on the day night year week yeah but he forgot that dream right because he's like i don't know in usagi's dream he's all like i just want to be like the greatest my dream is to just marry you it is cute though like obviously they're they're clouded by dreams and nightmares is a huge theme right in this episode and i'm reminded a little bit of Morpheus for mythology and some of those stories with him. Wrong one.

Yeah, wrong one. Wrong one. Take the M off. I am wearing my Hadestown shirt today, if you see. You guys can't, but I am. I'm seeing it in a couple months. I'm hyped. Yeah, I wore it just for you.

Actually, I kind of didn't think about it. I put it on before the dermatologist earlier. You could have me yeah I like to ruin the romance um no but besides like the dream nightmare scenarios that keep popping off I do want to say it's kind of a sweet sequence of baby them because they're kind of being the children they never get to be together right because the dream's over really quickly like really quickly but mamo and usagi don't have time to just date every life they save you know worlds together this is the inner healing they don't get a chance to have a chance to talk about those dreams they could have in this world the dreams that kind of tie them together that they could accomplish together with each other's

support but they're not allowed to because of their duties right because then they always end up waking up and they're like oh fuck i'm the princess of the moon kingdom and i'm endymion and that happens like every time that they're reincarnated under yeah i mean at least like they get it better this time around right last time around you know he died and she's like fuck this yeah and then she just killed herself and yeah i it's as you said dreams and nightmares are a big part of this arc we talked a lot about i think the dreams um and how they manifest for the interstitial and what it means like for people's hopes for themselves last last episode and you know i think same as for the interstitial mamoru and usagi you know, their dreams aren't just for them. They have bigger dreams than just, you know, Mamoru wanting to be the greatest house husband to Usagi and take care of her or even like being a doctor.

I'm not understanding what's so negative about that. I'm just kidding. Are you anti-Menenist, Elia? I, oh my god. I think that like, it's funny because Usagi's like, wait, this seems weird. That doesn't seem like you or your dream. And she realizes it because she's like, wait, I don't understand. I thought he had a different dream.

Like, we're not codependent. But also, I think this is also slightly a cultural difference, too, for them to be like, no, my dream is to live for someone else and to be of service in this like bigger way as opposed to necessarily like this living for themselves and self-manifestation because like saturn comes in she's like albert einstein said the best thing is to live for other i was like okay what is happening and i think this is sort of like one of those yeah cultural differences between you know asian culture and western culture so understood that makes sense that's my that's my guess and that's why they're all like yeah our dream is to protect

this planet and be together like great power couple oh yeah sometimes that's more fulfilling to keep saving the worlds over and over again i guess oh living for other people oh i don't know about that i'm just saying this is oh my god let. You, I don't know about that! Let me tell you all about the Facebook group, Subtle Asian Mental Health. God, maybe I need to hear more. Am I worried? Should I be worried? No, I just, you know, it's good. People are reaching out and supporting each other. I'm happy about that. I'm happy about that. Meanwhile, outside of this little dream world, Sailor Chibi Moon and Saturn confront the Amazoness Quartet. Saturn reveals the Amazoness Quartet were corrupted by Nahalania's nightmare power.

Dun, dun, dun, which is exactly what's happening in the scene before. Yeah, and we get hints about them from when they're like, are you enjoying your solar system game and you look and she's just straight up recreating the whole solar system in midair and then also uranus and i think that was kind of cool it's cool to see the other powers that the sentry have besides just combat and and stuff but yeah basically hotaru's like yeah we're at 4.6 billion years in now and it's like here are the asteroids right the asteroids are also guardians but they're deciding whether to be alive or dead or something and if like for some reason you

already knew the names of the asteroids maybe you would have been able to piece together the whole thing about the amazonas quartet but like i was 10 so i learned the name of the asteroids because of this manga good for me but I was precocious not that but not enough apparently the Amazonas quartet of course living in the Amazon we find out later on like their little gems weren't there before they're awakened and this is not where the Amazons of Greek mythology live but the rainforest was named for that by colonizers so it does you know of course harken back it all ties together with this idea of a group female warriors right which is what takeuchi is like channeling here with the amazon quartet yes i really love i have to say like i'm

so glad that they get more time to shine kind of in this they deserve it they do love them they're just girls they're just girls they are they really are just girls and i love what you pulled out here about them like about the the female warriors etc and also that like when you put them in that frame they also become kind of girl soldiers yeah they're all especially like in the flashback to the silver millennium i'm like they're just girls they're just child soldiers they're just child soldiers but i think that's what resonates so much at the end when there's that clip you know when they're showing us like oh now helenia saw something in us and that's why they chose us they chose us and you have like the little colored balls representing

them just fun marbles yeah just a little little mar marbles, like where all the good Janets go, you know, when the bad place gets their hands on them. Marble-ized. But yeah, I think there's something to that, right? Like you see that they have good in them. Oh my god, they're broken men. Wow. Wow.

Wow. Wow. I want more on them, you know, like that's the kind of stuff I'd love. Screw all this other IP spinoff bullshit. Give me the Amazon S-Quartet. Show me them and Chibiusa. Yeah, I've always kind of wondered, like, what that would be like, you know? It seems as though Sailor Moon took care of everything for forever.

So, like, what do we even... What are they defending us from? But then also, obviously, at some point, as we find out in this movie, Chibiusa, she does it. She makes it. She goes through puberty. Congrats, girl, after 300 years. Who knows how many more hundreds of years until she gets there, you know? Well, maybe that many hundreds of years later, we'll get a sequel series.

Yeah, I don't know. I think Takeuchi might be done. Yeah, I think she's done. But I wish she would do it, though. She's rich enough. Yeah. But also- I mean, she set it up so that she could, you know, like that if she ever needed to, she

could come back and take them for a spin again. But I understand being like, I'm just not going to work anymore. Absolutely not. Yeah. And. No one is this happy. Artistically happy. I mean, rich.

I mean. Yeah, I mean. But also, yeah, we had just such little hints of them. And maybe Chibisa, it doesn't take hundreds of years, right? Maybe once she like knows herself, she goes through like her little Hotaru, Renesmee, swoop thing. Alia of the knife. Zirconia, we come back and Zirconia imprisons the Amazoness Quartet inside of these orbs

and traps Chibi Moon and Saturn inside shards of glass. Yeah, and I'm like, oh, I got it now. You know, it's revenge for being trapped in the mirror. We're just trapping everyone in glass. And yeah, this is so promising young woman. Yeah, all six of them are put inside of the Hellenia's. So Queenie just like puts her hands into the mirror and just drops them. I'm like, I love that the glass didn't break. Like what is this? Helios explains that the golden kingdom used to exist in Elysian and it's the earth's heart. Wow. Did you know if you rearranged the letters in earth, it's heart? I've never thought about that till now, but I'm sure a lot of people have. Why is everyone stressed out about the black roses in Elysian? We can just

breed them to make golden roses and then sell them every single day. But you have to make sure that you bred the black ones the correct way in order to do that. Oh my god, you're right. These ones were all obviously bred the wrong way and they're not being watered by a golden watering can. Your Animal Crossing lore needs to be updated.

Yeah, I need to go find my new dream and upgrade my Animal crossing powers wow super sailor guardian eliana guardian force you know this entire episode is kind of coded in mythology but there's this line here that i love that helios uses language of one from above and one from below to describe kind of this balance created by mamo and usagi's relationship and you know like star-crossed lovers right i think of maybe perhaps more shakespearean necessarily than mythological but i think of star-crossed lovers

and there is language actually another hadestown reference there is language of you know like of down below of heading downwards towards hades fires being below and heaven being above right which is kind of where you see these two factions coming from and it's similar also to as above so below which comes from a hermetic text right the emerald tablet which was in arabic but the copy that claims to be a translation of greek basically is where this phrase comes from so there's like all of this philosophical debate about what it fucking means because of how it's translated and translated through several languages and hands and tomes one of the more commonly accepted translations though is basically that which is below is as that which is above and that which is above is as that which is below and it stands to symbolize that difference and also not difference

between micro and macro universe right like that we're just beings miniature versions of us like we're a small universe in a big universe right that all of us are everything and everything is all of us and that we're like made of fucking stardust and shit, which really reflects the idea of Mamo and Usagi and why they're so drawn to each other and to saving these universes over and over again and why they keep being reincarnated and being pulled to one another. Right? And their spherical kind of control over planets and places. and places. I just think it's like a really beautiful way to describe it for one from above and one from below. And of course, that you two were fated to come together over and over again and die over and over again for everything. That's really sad. But maybe they don't die because she's like, wow, I have the silver crystal. No one like gets old and dies anymore in the future. But I like what you're saying about the the as above. So below and I don't know why I was like, they reference this in Ava also, but I guess not. But you know what you're saying about the as above, so below. And I don't know why I was like, they reference this in Ava also, but I guess not.

But you know what you're saying of like everyone being made of stars and having like this whole universe inside of them. And I do think that Sailor Moon is kind of driving towards that. Like this idea that we do have like these cosmically amazing things inside of us because it does end with like no saggy. And by it ends, I mean this part eternal ends with we do all each have a star inside of us right and it's up to us to make that light shine foreshadowing it is oh i love that oh eliana i love that that's our stars shining together we see a flashback it's in quotes as chloe's put here a very random maiden who delivers a vision and they think that it's usagi right they definitely all thought it was usagi last movie but you guys when we look at it now i'm like yo that that button is pointy it's chibiusa that hair is pink i know and helios is just he's a bad bf because he doesn't

understand his gfs aesthetic and it's true dude i'm like obviously look at her that is her colors yeah i mean stupid unicorn maybe he was kind of far away and he was like you know looking down maybe he didn't get like a good a good look right maybe for all we know he has really bad eyesight i don't know probably because he's fucking dead all the time that's so true i mean he's really old carrots when you're dead really old too and usagi realizes that the golden crystal is inside of Mamoru. Congratulations. And I don't know, I also just, I'm like, I look

just like my mom, so maybe that's like Helios' confusion too. Oh, very Greek. Very Greek. Yeah, it's like cyclical. My mom and I are really different though, unlike Chibiusa and Usagi. I understand this. I'm like a long version of my mom.

You're much taller than your mom. If you took me, you know when Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, when Violet Beauregard gets turned into a blueberry and they have to put her in the Laffy Taffy machine to like wring her out. Do you remember this? I vaguely remember her being a blueberry.

I don't remember the Laffy Taffy part. Yeah, that's how they fix it. So they put her in the Laffy Taffy machine, basically, and they pull her super long to get all the juice out, and she comes out super fucking long, like Gumby-ass, you know? Like, just comes out like Gumby, long as hell. Like, she should hoop, is what I'm saying. She should be hooping.

But that's me. I'm that version, but of my mom. Yeah, yeah. But there'd be no confusing my ass, is what I'm saying. No, there would not be. Because I could hoop, and she could not. She really could not. I would dump Helios.

No, I'm just kidding. There aren't that many other, like, terrestrial, not even terrestrial, domestic fucking unicorn boys in this universe, okay, with their little bells. Yeah. Gotta take what you can get. And I mean, you know, maybe she's just like i can i can fix him i can save him and that's exactly what happens in this movie so zirconia incapacitates usagi and mamoru with a fog around jupon and then helios sends elysians purifying crystals to earth

blocking zirconia's fog and heals the group but then they kill him kind of he's like i used up the last amount of strength on that prayer and i love that they do use the crystal thing as a defense system and the purification because it does create that continuity with again the second arc with what happens in crystal tokyo right when they're like oh we're being attacked and then all the crystals come out and then it takes the queen which honestly seems like a really bad system but whatever no not really and i think that's like supposed to be a thing right like you're seeing like oh this planet is kind of fucked like this time this age he's kind of he seems like he's running on nothing oh he is he's running on nothing he's just like i'm just a boy he is just no but

i mean that he is just a boy and like you can see that he's run out of resources and like not to put this into like a war standpoint but that's how i think of it in a way too is like he's been battling this war alone for so many years and he just has found the people that are gonna help win the war and now he's dying yeah yeah it's wild well you know he's like i can at least trust they're gonna get us over the finish line we're here we're here yeah yeah and he's just a boy zirconia attacks sailor moon and tuxedo mask and she starts spreading her nightmares all over their nightmares i guess who knows it's a space being tuxedo mask and others break free from nightmares after a bit of time in order to break free from space being tuxedo mask and others break free from nightmares after a bit

of time in order to break free from the nightmares tuxedo common wakes usagi up by like slapping her i guess or is like step out of it they're nightmares i'm like sir if that were me you're a stupid fucking planet it would just be on your fucking own all right like we are not working together absolutely not not after that and very strange domestic assault used to be much more acceptable that's true i guess it's that in the yeah in the 90s and maybe they're like you know this is the best way to get someone to be like snap out of it or whatever in general but i was just like very strange also quick thing in the manga instead of crumbling into stone they just become like old and melty that's the visual and i don't know i kind of like how they have this whole distorted dreams thing right of what's going on here of

what happens in their reality it's kind of like how a kaleidoscope right or a shattered mirror reflects back a distorted image both the kaleidoscope, right? Or a shattered mirror reflects back a distorted image, both the kaleidoscope and the mirror reflections of each other. I love that. I love that you've drawn the kaleidoscope from the first part back into it too. That's so fucking great. You've been taught, you talked a lot about that last episode. Yeah, we did. And I love that even these dreams here, these distorted dreams, right? Sometimes the nightmares seem like dreams and sometimes the dreams seem like nightmares. And I love that. I love that. Like, you don't know which is which, right? That beautiful little sequence back and forth when they're tiny is also a nightmare. You know, that's a nightmare,

even though it seems like a dream sequence, it's a nightmare sequence. And I love that. I love those angles. There's an episode of Doctor Who that it reminds me of series five, Amy's choice, and they're stuck in a dream sequence on and off. And they have to like figure out which dream is real and which reality is the dream. And one of the characters makes a very like, out of time, so you got to make a fucking choice and makes a choice that like, had it not been the right choice, it would have been awful, it would have been bad, it would have been bad it would have been like you know like you just killed yourself your family everyone in the world but chose the right choice that's

good that's good i think you've told me about this episode before and devastating horrible i'm glad you didn't continue she's trying to reverse psychologically whatever me into watching the series it is devastating what you were saying just now though about how you were drawing this like distorted thing and like how that childhood fantasy can actually be

a nightmare is very much what was going on right in that first movie where they were like wow I'm fulfilling my dream question mark question mark and that turns out that's actually nightmare because their real dream is something else and maybe that's kind of what was happening at the beginning of this movie with the outer senshi right they were kind of like oh something feels weird i want us to be able to stay in this like domestic fantasy forever but that's not really who they are that's not they like the piece but maybe that's not

really what they want because they're like wait what about our purpose as senshi i want to transform and be with everyone again but they feel like they can't be with their friends if they can't support them so no i think that is like a structure i think you're right and i think that if they had maybe more firmly followed that structure, right? And let that be like, even just the intro of all of them living these dreams slightly and then breaking out of it to save the day. If it had a little more structure that might have hit better for that pacing that you and I were discussing.

Yeah, I guess that was a thematic thing. It wasn't a literal dream, but they were still being woken up from it. Regardless. I got it now. Good. We did it. got it now good we did it right we did it we did it read it sailor guardians use their combined powers to blast and weaken zirconia who flees into nihilania's mirror and it's kind of like really funny the way it's animated anyways sailor moon freeze chibi moon and sat. Nahalania disappears, but Draconia remains inside the mirror. While I think that the animation sequences for the powers and transformations were lacking, this scene was kind of cool.

I really like the design and the art here. We'll come to the moment in a bit here, but you get that great shot, the artistic shot later of the artwork of Nahalania and Queen Serenity. I like some of the artwork and some of the color in this scene especially the dead moon circus disappears but darkness remains throughout the entire city and then the sailor guardians and tuxedo mask teleport to elysian and we actually get this great moment where the main ads are here and they're kind of like vaguely usagi shaped as far as buns and outfit and Grecian right it's

kind of crazy because the manads in Sailor Moon have a way different demeanor in anime manga movie than they do in Greek mythology right because the manads in Greek mythology are Dionysus' female followers and they're kind of party animals

like their name literally translates to raving ones. And here they're portrayed as very demure, right? Almost like scrying and quiet, and they keep this place, and they keep the shrine and temple, you know, at peace. But Dionysus's followers are often portrayed as being so inspired by him that they're just, like like drunk as hell and dancing dressing up in like fawn skins and ivy wreaths when they perform rituals

and they're mythologized as crazy party bitches so I thought that was a really funny difference between the two that is really funny maybe it's just because like Endymion is here and they have to look good in front of the boss and also they've just they have been they've been working too hard to even party you know with everything going on i mean they're literally dionysus groupies yeah in mythology so i respect that when they took a break when we don't see them yeah they're partying so nihilania deflects super sealer moon's attack and

hope is seemingly lost everyone sees a flashback of nihilania's mirror in the past when they're trapped inside the kaleidoscope i guess it distorts time and space too i don't know that's kind of cool i didn't think about that and queen serenity and the chibi cute little sealer scouts and baby usagi again. Child soldiers. Nihilania was sealed inside her mirror by Queen Serenity after cursing the princess in a very sleeping beauty slash Maleficent style. And then cursing the silver millennium and being like, you're all gonna die. Alongside tons of other, you know, compounding tragedies, Hotaru comments. She was just like, I don't think you did that.

I don't think you can take credit for that. All on your own. I love that. I love it. She's like, yeah, but also a lot of things were going bad at that time i a historian i'm going to tell you what yeah because she's like what seven now my god but every time i blink that girl goes up a year she's like a year old if you really think about it again alia slash reesmee. I love, again, that still of art of Nahalania against Serenity.

I would love a little like friends to enemies prequel story with them. Oh my God. Like fanfic me that I'm sure it exists. I'll go on fanfic.net or AO3. We talked a lot about the mirrors last episode with it being like another dimension and reflection. And I think it's great that in this episode, it has even more meaning. We see it uses almost a salvation and a promise, right?

Chibi you said at the start of the episode with the mirror from Neptune and how that is supposed to protect her and also promise that they're coming back. And sure it does, that is what it means. They do come back. But also the mirror as the ultimate weapon, not only used to trap the inner

senshi inside but also used against super sailor moon in a way since she used it against nahalania in the past well her mom did but you know it's basically all of them they're all the same the three faces of the moon i don't know it's not unlike perseus using a mirrored shield to trap medusa when i think about it too it reminds me of that a little bit of trapping someone in a mirror trapping their soul and realistically mirrors you know kind of symbolize self-reflection right which is what usually catalysts the scouts to their next evolution mirroring our souls our minds becoming super sailor scouts because you've kind of stumbled across finally and gotten over that uh that piece of work on yourself that you need to do i did want to share from roman mythology something about a mirror which if you take venus's symbol and you know turn it upside down it is a mirror or right side up even both ways it's a mirror

yes isn't that interesting so i didn't know that yeah ironically the mirror is neptune's weapon right mirrors also are kind of represented by bellflowers because bellflowers are shaped or were shaped and seen as a mirror shape so in roman mythology venus misplaces her mirror and a shepherd boy finds it and he refuses to give it back and when she tries to take it back from him the mirror shatters and everywhere where the sh it back and when she tries to take it back from him the mirror shatters and everywhere where the shards land bellflowers start to bloom and of course bellflowers

are Mercury's flower that's usually an artwork of her yeah or other things sometimes here and there there's a little introduction with her and you'll see some bellflowers on it so really it doesn't mean anything but I just wanted to tell you this story because I thought it was kind of fun i was like oh bellflowers mirrors yeah that is very interesting yeah i mean like obviously mirrors play a lot in this and this

and venus obviously always plays a pretty big role and yeah i don't know why i thought and this must be from the 90s anime, because it's, I don't think very much in the manga, but it seemed a little implied that Nahilanian not only was like, from the mirror world or darkness inside the moon, but like on the dark side of the moon. And like, I don't know, I just am like, it was really rude not to invite her. Like, she's just alone over there on the other side. So rude.

And it's giving like, climate change refugee shit in a way yeah i'm just like oh my god let her come to the party why are you making her live in the dark where there's no resources over there like what the what the and maybe you know she's just more of an introvert that's fine but like at least fucking send the invite and let her turn it down my god yeah right like for what it's absolutely very much maleficent as as you said and i think that sleeping beauty storyline actually permeates throughout the entirety of this arc right because we are talking about the dreams and nightmares yeah like when they're taking over the world everyone is put to sleep the entire castle of planet earth pretty much you know it's all put to sleep the entire castle of planet earth

pretty much you know it's all put to sleep that's why it's a lot about like this dreams versus nightmares thing as you're talking about like that reflection of the self and the distorted sleep world and then also it happens with how chibiusa saves helios right chibiusa awakens helios with like a kiss and takuchi loves playing with those reversals of prince and princess roles and who's the hero and that's why you know true love's kiss makes helios and then you have a bit of the animation this does not happen in the manga because it's not animated that's how comic books work where they use like sand to like do some of these i think transitionary things as well or like to make things come together and i don't know if that's intentional or not on their part but it could be because sleep in western stories is very much associated

with sand right you have the sandman stuff well morpheus yeah again coming back to him that's morpheus yeah i think you're right plus m morpheus so yeah the the theme of sleep very strong and not gonna lie it's gonna be strong with me this evening listeners that is our hope for all of us i'm gonna take one of my little bennies my pink benadryl my pink benadryl not to be confused with benzos yeah i was like what are we talking about this what are we telling everyone holy shit all right listen in real time nahalania takes the silver crystal from super sailor moon and she's about to become like the true ruler of the universe and all that shit right but usagi and tuxedo mask kiss breaking free from the nightmare and getting back the silver crystal. Super Sailor Moon transforms.

She gets the other Sailor Guardians into their next form, their princess forms. And then she summons Luna, Artemis, and Diana. And they've all hit their next evolution, Sailor Power Guardians, which is really fucking cute because it comes with this little, like, miniature figure of themselves.

Wow. Maybe it's, like... So expensive. Was it, like, infused with soul? I don't know what it is, Maybe it's like... So expensive. Was it like infused with soul? I don't know what it is, but it's so cute. They're just like holding little versions of themselves that are like spiritual mini versions of themselves.

Love that. And then they call on their castles for power, which I thought this was really interesting, calling on their castles and the crystal palace for Chibiusa and these like, you know, fortified buildings that have protected them or been crumbled,

and they each have their moment to, like, call on their castles for power, to give strength to the Holy Grail, and to Sailor Moon. The other Eternal Sailor Guardians and Tuxedo Mask then transform Sailor Moon into Eternal Sailor Moon. She destroys Nahalania and her mirror, her bitch-ass mirror,

and restores earth and elysian to normal yeah and all their castles are pretty much named after moons of their respective planets and i just realized as i was like i was like oh it's all the covered in black roses because the thorns that surround sleeping beauty's castle i get it now oh that's nice that's nice i just got that. I don't know that I thought about that. They're not gonna turn into golden roses. Anyway, they're bred wrong, as you said.

I like that here at the end, Nihilania is like, no, Prince Antimion, and she's like, I should be the one to marry you and take your hand and become queen. And I like that she's not even doing it because she's into him. It's not like Queen Beryl. She's just like like i should have married him and stolen his claim and become like stolen his power and as in a song of ice and fire slash game of thrones fan i respect that she's

like i'm just marrying him for his claim i respect the shit out of that dude i don't i'm serious. She's a fun fucking antagonist. Yeah. She deserved more. Her dress was amazing. Oh, yeah. I love the design. To quote the bear, she stacked physically and mentally. You're like, why, Eliana? Why?

She is, though. You're not fucking wrong. That booty don't quit, and neither does that bosom. Yeah. And her hair is great, too. It was a little too tentacly, but I love her hair. Anyways. Yeah.

I don't know if I want to be in her or be her. Yes. Eternal Sailor Chibi Moon uses her pink moon crystal to revive Helios. He's not dead. Everyone applaud. Yay, he's back, I guess. He did it. Was he ever even there? I'm like, he's always dead, I feel like. I feel like he's been on this planet for so long that the only bit of him that's left is this spiritual bit, and then sometimes his

kinny, the unicorn. Yeah, I think both- who's kinny? I think both Chibiusa and Usagi, they just have a, like, I can save him. Yeah. Kink, you know? Mm-hmm. That's what I think. It comes from her parents, you know? Mommy and daddy issues, so.

They're all super jazzed about this Pink Moon Crystal, which, I mean, I would love if it were a reference to that Nick Drake album. I do like those songs. But I'm also kind of wondering, first of all, obviously it's like because, you know, her color is pink and shit, but the pink moon is in fact a thing. It's like a Western phenomenon, mostly in North America, I think, and is ascribed to the first full moon in April. And it's not actually pink, but it's named for the flowers that bloomed during that time. And it's considered a symbol of rebirth.

I don't know if this was actually what it was about. This year's is 23rd of April. Oh, wow. Huh. That's so interesting. I just looked this up for you all. We're supposed to have a solar eclipse this April. Oh, shit.

April's that month, you know? Oh, it is. I'm not trying to be uh out there but even people born in april they're better they're just they really are but the dead moon circus very much might attack this year oh god i'm ready though i'm really ready so somebody needs to awaken me and tell me yeah you know like where's my cat gonna start speaking more to me than she already does oh my god wake me up when april ends so the amazon s quartet reveals themselves to be sailor guardians of the asteroids named sailors series palace juno investa aka the expanse sailor scouts they're here finally They're here. Finally. That's who they're protecting. That's who they're protecting.

They're all belters and they're here to, I wish. I'm like, I would love, I don't know how, but Sailor Moon and Expanse needs to cross over for me. Somehow. Somehow. Helios escorts the others back to the surface before he returns to Elysian. And there, Chibiusa and him have this very tearful parting

right he's like i will meet again chibiusa small lady yeah and they're gonna get married i know right he's like writing off on pegasus and like wait so you're not the i'm like keelios and pegasus just really i'm gonna spoil this movie for everyone. Detective Pikachu did when shit got rough. He's skin changing, Eliana. That's what it is. No, it's not. Like his body was like, it's like, is Detective Pikachu about skin? Actually, Detective Pikachu is about skin changing.

Anyways. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Eternal very much is about Chibiusa growing up to take on her mom's mantle right uh the first part had a lot more of that the second part shows that in a different way it even ends with her gaining her very own loyal sailor guardians her own senshi the amazon s quartet which is one of my favorite things of the series as we talked about like these are child soldiers and i feel like looking back at some of

the other characters and some of the other young girl aliens or whatever whoever they are that get kind of roped in and they're like i'm doing this for joy sight or i'm doing this for pharaoh i'm doing this for proud of you know like the wise man told me to do it and now i've thrown my life away dying in front of the Sailor Senshi. I feel like we have so many of those characters and none of them, that's what contributes to that flavor of the week, right? Like villain of the week, dead. Villain of the week, dead.

And it's also what makes this so effective. Had they given a real story to those characters past their expiration date in the story, this probably wouldn't have as much effect. So I'm not complaining about it. I love this, about it. I love this. But it gives them it gives them a chance to be the villains that actually have real fruit and story behind them and go somewhere and aren't actually villains. And I really like

that. It's kind of like the best change from the 90s. They get a chance at redemption. Yeah, I have always loved and wanted to know more about the Amazonas Quartet. So agreed. I'm glad that we got that and they're like yeah we'll see you later too I love what you're saying about how and this season very much is this arc very much is also very Chibiusa focus as well right and like you said how she is learns to take up her mother's mantle but it's also kind of good to see that it's expanding Mamoru's, like, lore and role and power as well. Like, he gets his own story when it comes to protecting Earth

and also his own, like, agency and power, kind of, so that we're not like, wow, he's so useless all the time. And I do like, he was like, wow, I really doubted myself there for a moment. He's like, I'm not just a burden to you usagi i really give you power too and she's like yeah oh it is a big mantle to pass on yeah it's scary it's good to know she's about to have like she's got to have her own support team and knowing that they're there right now and not later that's true saggy wakes up alone and doesn't know any of this you know chibiusa is it's like how like in the good place right every time in the good place they get restarted they learn more yeah every time you start something over from ground zero with the

same knowledge you will automatically do a better job, at least at parts of it, right? So this is real mentorship for Chibiusa. That's a good point. It's a good thing she had 300 years to be a kid. She should be real good at it by now. I know, right? Yeah, Chibiusa and Hotaru getting to absorb and feel their nightmares and thoughts and having sympathy for these guardians right having sympathy for what happened to them and understanding the amazon s quartet like they were just on the wrong side of the

mood man yeah dude they just someone just came and corrupted their dreams and nightmares and told them you know these people don't want you to have dreams and they're like wow that's fucked up and not just them but i mean the helios and Chibiusa plotline, I think, is perfectly, it's a perfect echo and end to end on them having their little moment of, you know, like, I'll see you again, and don't think this is the end, because, oh my god, dude, A, they're so getting married, and right, one above, one below, they complete the cycle. getting married and write one above one below, they complete the cycle. They take over the cycle from Mamo and Usagi. Mamo and Usagi did their job. They get to kind of maybe retire a little and relax, go on a vacation. And Helios is the new Mamo and she's the new Usagi. And it's a perfect circle of one above one below. Yeah. Except I don't know if he's allowed to leave Elysian. Well, maybe that's for the better because look what Tuxedo Mask did. Yeah, that's true.

So he, you know, he's Truehouse's husband, I guess, but only in this one place. That's okay. Maybe it's better he stays there. They're having a long-distance relationship. And it is a perfect rhyme, you know, as you continue to continue this whole story. it is a perfect rhyme you know as you continue to continue this whole story and yeah I don't know it's nice to know that like

Chibiusa gets has something to look forward to you know and we can finally move on from her dad and stop being into her dad no I'm serious I'm serious I know you are that's why I'm laughing so hard bitch

but like you know yeah she does have to move I know you are. That's why I'm laughing so hard, bitch. But like, you know, yeah. She does have to move on from her dad, though. You're absolutely right. Yeah, so she's just going to move on to this guy who I guess like shares a soul with him or something. Way blonder than her dad, you know? That's true. He does at least look different. He has a whole like little spike coming out of his head.

So different. Golden eyes. And his little white and blue outfit instead of... my god his colors are the exact inverse his colors are literally the exact inverse i'm gonna puke he does have a very different fashion sense from her dad so there's that that's true we were also talking about this a little bit last episode but i mean we do have that tension right there's all this time travel going on here with Helios and Chibisa, but we also have it within the storyline of like, what it means to be backward, looking backwards at things versus looking forward. maybe also all along and they might have been separate they might have actually like well now helenia is the one like who's really i'm about to spoil a little but like from the galaxy cauldron so i think zirconia is like a part of her and i'm like did she like expel this older

part of her and this like in her quest for like vanity and that desire for beauty kind of like dorian gray style and it's it's less played up here and i want to say it might have been more of a thing in the 90s anime i don't remember but you know i think it plays in with what they were doing in the earlier part of this arc where the constant aging the like primitivization or whatever of like the people and like turning them into those kinds of monsters or is that the previous season whatever but anyways versus like growing up and accepting and embracing aging right versus always just looking backwards and you know i say this as a person who's like only 17 years old and how you just you do have

to move forward right like to embrace that you do get older instead of just regressing. That you have to live and not just sleep in that dream. And there's also, you know, again, we were talking about Usagi's mom being like, everyone's got a star in their heart. And there's a lot of stuff here, actually, that sets the stage for the next arc, which is Sailor Stars. Or Star S, unsure. And the idea of everyone, again, like like having to use that star to fight the darkness that also lives inside of them yeah and i do want to come back to what you were just saying about

zirconia and nahalania too and that link between them because i totally see it where usagi is empowering and enabling chibi yusa to go on to have a life, whether it's with Usagi or without her in it, like enabling her to have her own life, her own dreams, her own thoughts, her own world. Her own boyfriend that's not her dad. Yeah, because she's doing that. And because so much of the first couple seasons and of part one

are about that relationship and about that kind of power struggle of finding your own place. Zirconia is not able to coexist with Nahalania not being inside her mirror. Right. And it almost makes me think of like dimming another person so you can do things. Obviously Zirconia wanted her to stay in the mirror so that Zirconia could be out there trying to find Pegasus to hopefully bring it all to reality and make it so they can all coexist. But she was willing to put Nahalania away, almost like a Rapunzel-esque thing, right? Like, keep her in the mirror so I can go do the dirty work or whatever. Which kind of makes me also sad for Nahalania. Nahalania just wanted a life of her own if she and zirconia

are like the same person then that's interesting like she sends out that again the dorian gray thing like zirconia out there to do all that stuff and you just don't like you were saying you don't live that life you maybe you stayed like super hot with your titties in your cool ass dress all the time you didn't live yeah you didn't live. Yeah. You didn't live. Yeah. But also, she wasn't allowed to because Queen Serenity forced her in there, which was pretty, again, messed up. She just wanted to party like the Maynads. Will someone let Nahalania live her life?

What? Oh my god, give her a shot. Let Queen Nahalania finish her blunt. Truly let her. Oh my god. It's messed up. And you know, I think that's a wrap on Sailor Moon Eternal part two. That's Sailor Moon Eternal.

Oh, let Nahalania finish her blunt. No, for real, there's a lot more there. This is actually hysterically the arc that left me wanting more. Left me wanting more that I know I don't get because I know what happens next-ish. I mean, obviously it'll be much, I think it'll be exciting to see on screen when we get Cosmos and get to see how they play this arc out further. It'll be the first time that arc is officially released in the US.

That legally we've seen it, yeah. Well, yeah, well, because it didn't, they didn't do stars in the 90s. It was too queer, too LGBTQ friendly for them. That was why I became an expert at using LimeWire and BearShare in the early 2000s, everyone. I think I watched it all on YouTube. It was either YouTube or LimeWire. I know that.

I think like that's the crazy part. I think that they were like all on YouTube. Like things were different on the internet back then. Let me tell you. Oh my god. Yeah, things were way different. All the viruses. Maybe I did download it. I don't know one of those. Maybe both. All the viruses I got on my mom's computer. Thanks, mom. thanks mom torrents torrents well thank you for coming on this journey with us to

talk about Sailor Moon, Sailor Moon Crystal Sailor Moon Eternal we look forward to Cosmos being released you can keep up on when that's going to happen on the internet it's probably more reliable than us yeah and also you can keep up on when we're returning when that's going to happen on the internet. It's probably more reliable than us. Yeah. And also

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