Girls Gone Canon Cast - Minisode — GGC Wrapped 2025

Episode Date: December 12, 2025

Catching up on comments, going over what Chloe and Eliana have been consuming lately (and what we're looking forward to), and then the usual gallivanting. --- Eliana's reddit account: https://www.reddit.com/user/glass_table_girl Eliana's blog: https://themanyfacedblog.wordpress.com/ Chloe's twitter: https://twitter.com/liesandarbor Chloe's blog: liesandarborgold.com Intro by Anton Langhage

Hello, and welcome to your GGC Rapt, 2025. This year, your listening ages, Lady Stone Heart Age. Oh, my God, congrats. Oh, my God. Oh, God. Congrats. Wow. You were in the top 0.999%tile of Girls Gone Cannon fans. Honestly, if you're listening to this episode, you actually probably are. Actually, there is a podcast for Spotify. Should I review that? Should I get a wrap? Have we not looked at it? Yes, yes. Oh, I have. No, I have. I sent you screenshots. I was like, I thought we did. I was like, I, I'm very open to the possibility that I hallucinated something.

which doesn't say very much about my sense of reality. The annoying things, it's like, I have to do it from my phone because Spotify is stupid. It doesn't do it from that, but... I assume you guys know because you're at this episode, but just so you know, that's one of your hosts, Chloe, and I'm another one of your host, Eliana. You might have forgotten. If you forgot, if this is your first episode, what a chaotic. This episode is like for the people that love the girlies gone canon.

Oh, I got it. I got our wrapped. Are you even ready for this? the character development episode yeah let's go okay here it comes i hope you use some really cool free music right here you don't amp it up here it comes here comes your spotify wrapped for creators for 2025 2025 this was quite the year for you oh my god i do feel that way that's so true i do i mean i feel that way like every year lately but a little proof that hard work pays off oh okay what the fuck are you trying to say about us is that a nag though like are they

nagging us? I mean, I don't even know if that's true anymore based off of the way the world is. 79.4,000 total plays on Spotify alone. We got to, those are rookie numbers. We're really gonna amp that up. I don't have any sense of scale. 79,400. I don't know how to say words. It's been one of those days. I have no context for what that could even mean. Okay, here's a big one. of a podcast. 7% increase in audience from last year. That seems significant. I'm actually surprised.

And total new audience? 469% increase. Oh, 6.9? Whoa. Nice. No. Wait, are you trying to make that the meme now? It's not 6.7, it's 6.9 because...

It's always been 69. I mean, 6-7's just like... I don't know. I'm not a zoomer. Or, no, no, that's not Zoomer. That's alpha. That's a Gen Alpha thing. Oh, my God.

Also, go birds, by the way, they're playing. Oh. 2.5 million minutes of listening. That's like... That's a lot. 1,700 days of listening. Wow. You guys listen too long of us.

I don't know how the rest of this song goes. Incredible. This year, one episode rose above the rest. What episode do you think it is? Do I think it is? I think it's the one we did with Gray. Close, actually. And also, I kind of forgot we...

Like, this was this year. is what was so crazy. This was this year. Episode 241, Addoa Serce 2 with Alicia. Oh, okay. Those are associated people. Yeah, yeah, close. It was played 93% more than our average episode was.

That's nuts. True. I did think that was in 2024, because... I thought that was, like, eight years ago. I think that was before, like, maybe my life blew out. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Spotify says they're still quoting it. Nice. What does that mean? That episode. Like, they're still

quoting the episode, it was that good. I mean, that's probably true. They're so funny. I wish they would. Oh, I wish they would. I wish Spotify would, like, be quoting us and Alicia on their homepage. That would be funny. Lots of other information, though, lots of great, like, oh, this many countries. Oh, our listening passport got a real workout. Hmm. Wow. 67 countries total. We are in 67 country. Oh, six seven. Oh, that is, oh my God, we did it. We did it. We did it. Six seven. Wow. I, wow. Yeah, that's pretty cool. We've got shout out, shout out United Kingdom, shout out Canada, shout out Brazil, shout out Germany, United States.

I'm not going to shout you out because you know what you did. But love you all the same. Indeed, indeed, I guess. They didn't ask for this. Yeah. We're the number one show for 207 people, and I have a feeling we know all 2007 of them. Yeah. We are going to go through some Spotify comments, too, at some point.

So, I assume we're in the top listeners. Yeah, I assume we're in the top for some of them, especially Derek. Yes, Derek. Derek is, um, Derek J has been all up in the comments. We love it. I actually get that because, like, you can just leave a bunch in a row. It's great. Uh, also, people that listen to us have to shout out what they're also listening to.

Oh, yeah. I want to know. Number one, can you guess. Can you guess what podcast they're also listening to? I, I think I can. It's probably not a cast. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't see that coming this year.

Really? I assume it. No, of course I saw that coming. Well, I assume it from everyone who's been like also sharing and tagging and Nauticast is also always in their top five. Always. Every year. Game of Thrones abridged. Alt-Swift X is our two.

Okay, okay. Three is History of Westrose. Shout out. Love them. Four is Radio Westeros. Shout out. Love them. And last podcast on the left is number five.

Hmm. Okay. That's crazy. So, cool, very cool. I don't know. We get a lot of shares. It says we received 83% more shares than other shows, which is really cool. So thank you for those of you at home that share us.

Yeah, thank you. Wait, what do we mean by like, are they sharing it via? I'm curious. Like, are they sending the link? Because they have the functionality now where the inbox they brought that back. I've only used it once so far, but I have used it. I think like when you share a playlist with someone specifically, it also like registers in there.

and by that, I mean, I know that from you and me. Yeah, like, oh, like an insta DM. Kind of, yeah, to, like, instantly send it of, like, so-and-so followed or, like, checked out your playlist. Tagged you, basically. Yeah, something like that. Yeah. Neat. I don't know.

That's our real Spotify wrapped. I don't know. Thanks for listening to that. Yeah. That was, you know. It was unplanned. It was impromptu. That's years of improv.

That's comedy for you. And then. There was something I was watching recently. It was like, that's so us. well let's talk about your comments let's talk about some things that we've had sent to us and I don't think most of these I don't think we haven't we might have a couple repeats so forgive us if we do but that's okay it's hard to keep track we just put out episodes you know we're just out there doing episodes except not right now or for the immediate future you won't be getting A-Swaff episodes but you should know that because you should finish Danny you're getting Hedge Knight yeah you're sitting like within planetos content. So do not worry. We are still doing things around that. And we will be for a while. Oh my gosh. No, it's over. We're going to have to like interrupt, I guess, Tyrion. Because do we, we don't have a release date yet, right? For House of the Dragon. You don't even have trailers. I thought you meant

release date for anyway. Yeah, we don't have release date yet. But it'll probably be summer. We have a release date for Ti-Ril. We just talked about how we're going to cover it. I think that's, like, legitimately happening. I actually really felt hopeful after last week. I'm just saying. I'm just putting it out there. I really felt hopeful. Stop!

I meant the real tea, wow. You're so sick. You're so twisted. You are sick and twisted. People don't understand what I go through on this podcast. You started it. Sick and twisted. You started it.

I did not. I've never started anything. Okay. Okay. I got a comment. Actually, really recently, we got this comment from Clay, and I had to include it. It made me think of you naturally, but... Yeah, this makes a lot of sense. We actually did cover this a few episodes ago, but once more, just because it's also very pertinent for a number of reasons, Clay told us that Reek having a gallum voice is now in their head canon. And this was a, again, we love, I've been really in. enjoying getting some of these comments from people making their way through our podcast for the first time and commenting on like back episodes. And this is very much a back episode because this is a reek, this is a reek chapter.

So this is like towards like the beginning of our run. Anyways, this was on episode 40. Yeah. It included our good friend, um, the artist formerly known as bookshelf stud. Yeah, Michael, whom I texted again recently because our friend, our friends Lowe and Virginie at Ragman's Harbor were looking for Dario content

like specific Dario art that I guess They're just like me for real Michael was able to help unearth for us Amazing Incredible The lore

There are some really Oh my gosh I started a new job And there's everybody just keeps saying Tribal knowledge about people having tribal knowledge Because that's like a very like I guess a corporate thing to say and I'm just like oh god yeah okay I've never heard that you know yeah I'm like I get it you

could say they're lore keepers maybe they keep a lot of the history but you know Michael's got all the history he is a lore keeper he is he has got memes he's got memes man he was but you know what he also has um he he's also popped up on not a cast recently he did the broken man chapter, big chapter, the Brienne 5 of a Feast for Crows. They're doing a Feast for Crows. I really think we should do a feast for Crows. Apparently, we're never doing it again. That's a joke. We could go back. We could literally, we thought about doing, you guys don't, you're not ready for that information. Never mind. Never mind. Glossing over that. Yeah, he didn't do a Gallum voice. I'm not a cast, but it was really good. I mean, it was a really good episode. It was like a, I don't

to, you know, we pick people to come on with a lot of intentions sometimes because we know it's a chapter they're passionate about or we, like, want them to pick the chapter they're passionate about. And when you have someone that is just so passionate and has love for the series like him, you can really just hear that. It's like a good episode because of that. I want to say, like, we might have had him or I might have heard him do the broken man speech in a Gallum voice before, even if he did not do it for not a cast. I feel like it exists somewhere Or a snippet. Or a snippet of it exists somewhere. I'm going to have to, like, revisit this stuff.

I think you could convince him. Oh, I don't think it would take much. Yeah, I think you should. I think you should do that and come back to us. Maybe, okay, you know what? Maybe we should, like, revisit some things after Tyrion, assuming, you know, T. But there's after? Yeah, no, Tewa will be out already, so never mind.

We'll just go into that. We'll just segue into that. But, you know, and the off chance it's not. Jesus. We got a comment from our friend slash common commenter Nana Perro who says Okay, but I think Ned's bye

Only because he gives me Bob's Burger's vibes Like he loves his wife But if he wasn't married he would try to date a man Adorable, obsessed with this Bob, Ned, they're both tired There's this episode recently where Bob is like He goes, Linda's like, you need to go to sleep Bob and he goes, sleep

and he like laughs and it's been like the constant in our house because I don't sleep very well that's a common theme Eliana doesn't either I don't know why she's awing I used to sleep well yeah but then I also used to not sleep well so I don't know yeah I don't know actually I usually I don't know but yeah life's terrible um Bob and Ned are both like very much tired capital T tired and I love this it makes me think of good old Ned chapters although it is from the lost lord the lost lord is where this comment was left

yeah um love that I agree love I think I mean I love like so many people make hilarious images I want to say like there's one that I saw on Tumblr of the way that Ned like describes Robert and muscled like a maiden's fantasy that's the big that's the big thing for everyone

yeah so love that everyone loves Robert Ned yeah I mean Ned and Robert love Robert Ned, so yeah. There's one person who does not love Robert Ned, and that's Stannis. Yeah, that's true. Circe kind of doesn't either, though. Yeah, that's true. That's true.

Catalan either. Catalan's like indifferent to it. She doesn't really think about it. She's like, whatever. He's there. Yeah. We got another... Is what it is.

Yeah, we got quite a few. Thank you, Nana Pera, for telling us. as you make your way through this journey it says So I practice medieval fencing Not steel swords They are soft And every time there's a lefty

Everybody panics It is very difficult to find a place to hit them And the shield and sword are on the other side So it is really difficult So yeah left-handed people have an advantage In sword fighting And if you couldn't guess Where this comment shows up

It is in an Aria chapter So this is for episode 194, A Game of Thrones, Aria 2. And of course, you know I included it, right, everyone? Because I'm a lefty. Panic. Panic. Panic. Panic, are the shit.

Panic, motherfuckers. Panic. Yeah. Yeah, it's great being me. It's great being left-handed, honestly. How do you feel everyone knowing that we're special? Good. Good.

You and I, you could participate in, what, like some sort of three-legged race, right? Or something, and then each of us has one hand to do something. I'll participate in your three-legged race. I guess the leg doesn't really make sense. Whatever. Anyways. If we pirated, if we pirated a yaker in Pacific Rim,

you would take the left side and I would take the right side. Eliana, the way of it. that your magical mind works. You never fail to amuse. We got a comment from one of my favorite usernames every time Tupac alive in Serbia comma, beat.

The mother goddess of the unsullied is a reference to the cult of Sibel that the Romans instituted to appease the sea after their consistent streak of bad luck with naval warfare. Oh, that's what that stereo lab is about. Song is about. Oh.

Professor Duggan wrote a lot about that cult, though it's sadly not concentrated in a single book. Fascinating topic. The only thing that seems different to the unsullied is the servants or eunuchs of Sabal present as feminine, basically male to female transgender. Interesting. Hmm. I like this. Okay. That is interesting.

Yeah, I think this was in response to, yeah, that makes sense. Addoida, Danaries, six, because we were all like, man, I really wish we knew a little bit more about the unsulled. religion because they talk about wanting to wash their hands after handling dead people. And I'm like, what a smart idea. What a good idea. Yeah. Or like they were just going to wash their whole selves in the ocean or something. Either way, good idea.

That's great. And I'm so like, wow, 1996 is Sybell's reverie. Incredible. Incredible stuff. All right. We have another one from Nana Pero. I just love this comment so much. I think we might have brought this one.

This one says, I love Robert Glover, because it sounds like something a frog would say. Robert. And this comes from Aswoff, Episode 173, Akasha King's brand two. And I'm like, does it sound like something a frog would say? Because I don't remember Quentin talking about Robert Glover at all. Robert. Get it. Robert.

Robert. Robert. Robit. Croat. Croke. Yeah. Quentin also croaked. Okay.

Get out. You have to go. You didn't acknowledge my first Quentin frog joke, so I had to double down. I was waiting for it to get funny, Alyana. It did. Okay, first of many comments from our friend Derek. Gotta love it. Oh, wait, hold on.

You guys, Derek, Derek's a profile icon is fucking Tom from MySpace. MySpace Tom. It's a throwback. So I love that. God, MySpace, the kids, they don't even know about MySpace. They don't know about fine. Jesus Christ. All right.

Derek commented, and this is what Danny, the one we talked about poop in. Was that Danny 6? We talked about poop a lot. I don't remember which one, maybe. I don't regret it, you know? I take every poop I can get. It was surprising, though, as I edited it. And I was like, why did we talk about poop?

Like, 30% of the episode is about poop. Well, you were like 25% of that 30% to be fair. With your piles of poop But yeah, it's 20 out of ten episode I'll hail the poop episode And then Coach Pierre also commented Girls Gone Grody Like it, good, alliteration

Mm-hmm, mm-hmm And then this one is from episode 267 Where I think I talked about Like how half the episodes are just, you know, you and me gallivanting, which is the entirety of this episode It says from our friend Jamie and Marie I came for the analysis and stayed for the gallivanting.

And then Coach Pierre has something to say also in true vacation dad fashion. Oh, this is in reaction to the two genders when it comes to airports. In true vacation dad fashion. I always get to the airports very early. I like to get my

shoes shined, have a coffee, and chill on my laptop. I'd much rather relax than rush. I don't get late people or rushing people. It's a flight. It can't sneak up on you. caveat. I've also nearly missed a flight because I was so engrossed in what I was doing. That's real, too. That's real too. I respect that. Coach Pierre, at my side. I, yeah, knock on wood. I've never missed a flight. The only time, like, I've been truly pressed was there was a delay in multiple things, and I actually blamed the person I was traveling with because I was like, yeah. Anyways, yeah, I have a friend who has also missed a flight, but in, in, in,

In her defense, right before the flight, someone broke up with her. So, not a surprise. The flight is not a surprise, but the breakup is. And so that was, and it was like, right. You can throw you off your thing. Before the flight, yeah. Because I micromanage when I have a flight, you know? Like, that's why I show up for that extra time.

Because I just know I need to have these things ready to have a smooth experience. But also, I'm not prepared to get delayed. Knock on fucking would. Again, I don't usually, I don't, I don't, I don't, the only time I think I've ever, I've had a few delays, but like, no missed flights, I've gotten really lucky. Like, there have been things that definitely were close, but I've gotten really lucky because, like, they made sure I got on, but I'm, like, terrified of the state of the union. That's true. That's the same. Things are bad.

That actually did happen to me, like, that almost happened to me once where we missed, we didn't miss one, but we almost missed a connecting flight because our initial flight. was delayed but they held it for us because I guess they knew about and like the doors were getting ready to close and we're just sprinting through this airport and we make it we make it my god but yeah that's crazy that's crazy I like the uh I always end up at Chicago at the airports in Chicago for like if I have a connector I feel like so I do a lot of Midwest and East and West travel and whenever I do it is intense but I have to recommend the wine bar you know sometimes if you just need wine there's a wine bar over there. Highly recommend it.

This is another thing that I'm quite particular. I do not like drinking when flying, unless it comes with my flight, then fine. I'm not going to say, like, no to an included, like, alcoholic beverage. But flying dehydrates me so much that I don't like adding to that and drinking. Does that make sense? Yeah. Do you know my secret? No.

Is that almost every flight, if it's of a reasonable time, I'm not talking like 6 a.m. But, you know, if it's an afternoon, like a late afternoon or an evening flight, I almost always have champagne. Just one glass of champagne. Okay. To give, just, you know, just one glass, give you the little champagne, fuzz feel, and then you can float through it. It just calms the nerve just right, just right for me. But I can't do more than that. Yeah, I was pretty fortunate.

I also can't sleep on planes. Oh, really? I can. So there's that. Fuck you. You're one of those. You're like my husband, my roommate, whatever he's fucking called. I am like your husband. That's true, actually. It's very true. You are like my husband. Yeah, I didn't mean I am like... A husband. I am like a husband to you.

I'm hearing words. for the first time. No. He's one of those that like he's mouth open on the plane immediately like good night. So, oh, that isn't. I do get it. That isn't always the case for me. And it's not like a straight like through the flight sleep. It'll be like interrupted. The moment his hand touches his glasses and they come off his face. I know it's over and then it's like an hour and a half later. I'll hear from him. I will say this is like one of the benefits of wearing masks. I I mean, like, I usually wear masks on the flights because... But no one can see my mouth hanging open while I sleep.

Nice. I'm very embarrassing looking. But then I drool into my mask, so that kind of sucks. No, that's good, because otherwise, like, I just drool in my sleep, like, normal person, so I get that. Yeah. Yeah, I like to be awake. I like to be awake. I don't know.

You guys are really going to get all the lore on the airport discourse someday. I mean, you could piece it together over episodes. Yeah, I have a lot of opinions on, I don't know, flying. I don't, yeah, I have a friend who will, like, he will shell out for, like, first class if he has the points for it. And I'm like, whatever, I'm just going to, I'm just going to knuckle through it. I was trained to be on fucking 18-hour flights in the middle seat in economy. Her martial training. Yeah.

Like, who's like darkness is your ally? We got another couple comments on some episodes. I think this is 265. Lord knows what that is. You know, I can fix this. I could look it up. It's probably DeNaris. It is DeNaris 3 and a dance with dragons.

So this is recent. This is good recent stuff. I'm glad we've got some, you know, the stuff we've recently done. So, comment is One from Coach Pierre, who says, great episode. Thanks, Coach Pierre. You're so real for that. And then also, Derek Jay, Sam's going to kill a dragon with his bow and arrow.

Honestly, interesting. Maybe. I don't know what to expect anymore. Yeah, my expectations have evolved through time, so it could happen. Who knows? I, yeah, I mean, I think of how close in the pit we just were. When we fell in the pit When we were in the pit

God damn it With the dragon And everyone was like kill him And his daughter was like kill him And Barrison was like yeah I think we might have to I don't know what to do here And everybody was like yeah I guess

Kill it And then everybody like aggressively was like kill it Like that's probably not gonna stop Right people are gonna be get pretty Because you know dragons burn And then like the people that are under the fire burn, so I can see both sides of the equations here. I do like Drogon, you know, like one likes a domestic pet.

I was honestly surprised that so many people agreed to kill the dragon. I'm like, do we not wish for like, are we not going to try to all tame it? Like, Dineries obviously was the only one who had that idea, but I was like, come on, y'all. Like, let's try harder. Interesting. No one had ambition. Speaking of ambition, I'm thinking of ambition. I'm thinking of foolish ambitions, as Margaret might say in Eldon Ring.

We got another comment from Derek Jay. I'm pretty sure this is about my minisode, where I found out that I'm capable of talking for 40 minutes straight. I learned a lot about myself this year. Yeah, thank you. Yeah, I really enjoyed it. And I don't listen to a lot of podcasts. You know what I thought about with it? If you give me enough notes and, like, if I can try and jot it down, I guess I could filibuster.

I think I could fill a bus story. Yeah. That's the conclusion I came to. Dude, I totally could. I used to be in TV news at high school. Like I did TV news. Yeah. And we wrote all of our own stuff and you had to actually do stories, put it together. And like, I could go on and on. I did headlines all the time, too. I was on that shit. And weather. And I wrote all that shit. I had pages of shit. I could read all that shit by heart. It was terrible.

I think I could go for a while before I have to start reading from the phone book, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, Leslie note. Derek says, I just learned more about Eldon Ring in five minutes from Eliana than I learned in 200 hours of playing it. And I'm glad, but also like, honestly, pay attention to the stories. When you, okay, so the way that from Soft Games work is that when you get an item, be sure to read the description, because the lore is in there. The lore is in the descriptions.

I love a lore. Yeah, we love lore. And Lord. It's giving Lord. It's giving Lord. I learned a lot about Eldon Ring in five minutes from you, too, actually, though. So, you know, sometimes it gets very frustrating if you're not good at a video game. Remember that?

I think this might have been shared on the podcast before, but the Marvel Avengers game. Oh. I, no, maybe not. Maybe this is new, so let me finish. I might have just not remembered, yeah. Our good friend, Alex, who's in our Discord, they also play this game, so I think they appreciate this. but I'm like trying to think of when it could have been shared, maybe when they were on, we shared it,

but the Marvel Avengers game, where you are, Miss Marvel. I am? Like, you play, you're playing as her and her big old hands. And she's like, I love her. And it's a fun game. It's really fun. But the very beginning requires some sneaking. And it's like literally the very first, like,

scene thing that you have to go through to, like, unlock the rest of the game and be able to, like, level grind and, like, get where you. you need to be, but it involves sneaking, and I hate sneaking in games. It's a thing I'm really bad at, too. It is annoying. I agree. It's so annoying. I hate still games. So it probably took me three years to get anywhere in that game, so I refused to go back to it for so long. And finally I did, but that's where I am with Eldon Ring too.

Like, I just haven't gone back to it. I'm sorry for that. Maybe it's not for me. I'm really good at games like Stardue Valley and the Sims 4. I'm really good at the Sims 4. Yeah, and that's also... I'm like really good at the Sims 4. That's George Esk, too. That's a character-driven story. Yeah. And medieval dynasty. Medieval Shadynasty I'm also really good at. Oh my God. Maybe I should have included that. That was this year, right, when I caught up finally on all of it. It's always sunny, I think. I don't know. I don't know when anything ever happened anymore. But anyways, yeah, love that. Regarding, yeah, sneaking games, I think you played Breath of the Wild, right? Yeah, I did.

I struggled so hard in the Lost Woods. Remember, there's that one little core. Warrock and you have to sneak behind and not get caught by him. Yeah. And I would, I was so bad at that. Pissed me off. When I get, like, if I can't get past something, I just, like, quit and play something else for a while. And then, like, it makes me matter every time I try and I fail.

I'm not, I think I'm kind of, I'm not exactly like that. Like, if I set it down, it'll only be for, like, a day so I can reset. But otherwise, I'm like, this is my whole life now. This one thing. That's fair. That's fair. I'm, uh, I am playing. video games again, though. I am playing Medieval Dynasty a lot.

In fact, I'm traveling for work, quote unquote, and for redacted work. And in my travels, I was like, I have to bring my laptop for recording. So I may as well bring my gaming laptop also for gaming. You know, in case you get that like Sims 4 in the hotel vibe going. Could happen. Could happen. Could happen. Actually, that sounds like that's on the some medieval dynasty. Yeah. Yeah, right.

You know? Dude, medieval dynasty is a really good shout out. Real big shout out to medieval should dynasty. Medieval dynasty. I will say, like, you have to, like, hunt in it. You don't have to. You can, like, get villagers to do it for you, but you do come across animals and, like, you can kill them if you're not into that.

Don't. But sometimes the rabbit looks like one of my cats, and it gets, it makes me so sad. Like, I'll, like, kill it with an axe. and I'm like, oh, you look like Allie. Oh, God. So, fun game. Really fun. There's a lot to unpack here.

There's a lot. Derek unpacks a lot in comments to us. This one is fun. It's when we were talking about Misande and how she would have been a good POV. He said, it's probably been said somewhere, but Misande didn't get a POV because she speaks a dozen languages and George doesn't, which I like that because,

not just like real languages, but also fake ones. He does not speak all these fake languages and have the time to do that, to be fair. I think that this is actually a fantastic explanation. I'd never considered it. And yeah, I think Derek's right, probably, because then George has to think up all these new words. But now he's got David Peterson. Maybe he could just be like, David Peterson, make me stuff. But, you know, it's a lot to farm out.

Yeah. If you want it done right. Conling is big, though. It's getting really big. And I think that's awesome. Like, that's a good sign of it, too. And who's to say he's not going to end up doing more? He might now, because I never shut up about it for years.

Yeah. Thanks to me, J.K. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. We've been doing a lot of talking about Robin Hobb, and by we, I mean me. Obviously, we'll talk a little bit more about what we're, you've got to, you know what, the first three alone are so it's crazy like I want to reread them

it's a kind of book that like you say it and you're like damn I want to reread that I liked the way I felt when I was reading that like that's the kind of book it is it's so good um it like had me like I had to finish you know like it was like I couldn't like I like devoured I haven't devoured a series like that since like Earthsea maybe in that particular way I did magicians too but like that was different because I'd watch the show prior to reading them.

Did I mean? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But they're really good. That trilogy is decent, too. But very Rob and Hobb good. I am working.

2026 will be big for me. I will be reading a lot of Rob and Hobb, I think. Okay. I've lost pace with my friend, my other friends in my city that have read Hob and Rob, Hob and Rob. Hob and Rob. Hob and Rob. Hob and Rob. Hob and Rob.

of the books tonight. And that's your top five most listen to songs, y'all. Wow. I think it was like Taylor Swift and like who else on the top five artists they listened to. I looked at it. It was like Taylor Swift, which I'm like, okay, I see all you girlies. Dude, I... You girlies out there.

My top five was giving performative male. I had both Clara and Bay of Adubiby. But with Bay of Adubidooby, it's okay. It's allowed. It's not performative for me because I'm Filipina. That's literally what I've thought the whole time. Every time I see it on your fucking shit, I'm like, oh yeah, you are listening to, well, you get to. Yeah, I was like, but it's different.

Just like when... It is performative male. I've been seeing on TikTok every now and then, people are like, I'm not performative for drinking matcha. He's like, I'm a Japanese man. Of course, I'm drinking matra. It's not performative. Yeah, no, it's like cultural. Yeah.

Yeah. So... Yeah, I like that. I respect that. I respect that. But also... I am giving performative mail. I can also, you can be two things.

You're very complex in my opinion. I do walk around with a fucking book every now and then. Stop. Okay, Rory Gilmore. I was reading. Jesus Christ. Oh, that was this year, I guess, beginning of this year. I was reading 1Q84 at the bar.

Oh, my God. Oh, my gosh. I'm very cringy. Yeah, that's real. I used to do that too, but now I just stay inside and don't. Every once in a while, though, I go to the bar. Not often. I bet you can't guess what the top, let's see, 11 songs.

How'd you get 11? Is it in order? I'm just looking at my play. They have a playlist. Is it in order? I didn't know that. Oh, it's in order. You want to know how it's in order?

From a mountain you live. I didn't know that. Let me check. It's every, mine is every track from Lord's hit album Virgin. Okay, so I'm like, did I listen to Lord's Virgin that much? Because that was also in my top albums, and I was like, did I listen to it that much? Or was I just studying it for my relationship? Like, I don't know.

I was like, I didn't know that I liked this album this much, but I guess I must. Yeah, you do. Yeah, you do. You like the album, Eliana. Yeah, I guess so. It's psychological warfare in practicing, apparently. Anyway. All right.

Here's two serious comments. lock in lock in these are some final some final dany comments we got and we would be remiss if we did not use our friend tech from the discord's comment they left it is really good it's a really good examination we'll read it a minute and also our friend sunflower solace who recently returned to the discord and is this is like not even some of the best stuff they've posted recently i should have gone back and looked for more but they've been commenting some things some thoughts that listen. I love that. I love when people read these books. It's kind of cool knowing other people are out there, like reading these books, man. Like the stars being connected in the night.

Oh, I was thinking like two immigrant mice. Oh, okay, five, oh. Wait, maybe we should cover an American tale one day. It's a thought. All right, here's text comment. I started typing this out last night. That must have forgotten about it after I fell asleep, LMAO, hitting send on this now before I miss. it again. That felt important to me. That's like very good internal dialogue. It's the kind of person they are. I cherish them.

Listening to this episode has made me realize how much of Danny's Adda arc, but especially Danny Ten, is a remix and inversion of her agot chapters. Stop it. Stop. This is a serious comment. Sorry. I get out myself. I don't know where that came from.

It was just like reflexive. Hasea and Arrowway, of course. Danny does have one moment on her feet in the grass. This seems poignant given Dream Viceris trying to assault her, and here in a Game of Thrones, she stands up to him for the first time. I taught you who you are can have so many meanings in this context. It was Viseris' abuse and how he sold her to Drogo that tie her emotionally to ending slavery. At the end, he taught her how to stand unflitching and watch someone burn to death. She's soon going to be watching more people burn to death. Yeah, that's true. That's true, probably, yeah. I mean, shit's bad out there. Also shit's bad in Adowada 10.

Yeah. In Agat, she walks beneath the mother of mountains with Drogo's semen running down her thighs. So real. His arousal in that moment is seeing her pregnant with his son. In Adawada, she walks away from Dragonstone with blood running down her thighs from her miscarriage. Snows. Wow. She is the mother of dragons and likely the stallion who mounts the world that makes

dragonstone into her own personal mother of mountains. Oh, okay. Yeah. Snaps. And they've come to her. Wow. They've come to her. Whoa.

Wow. Oh. And then also it's just occurred to me the coloring of Danny's silver is exactly opposite of Drogon. I know you pointed this out, but Danny's explosive diarrhea and vomiting. This is a serious comment. Stop. Oh, I was going to ask, I was like, where is that silver?

I miss that horse. Yeah. Oh, shit. I hope the horse lives. Shit. Oh, I didn't consider that. Oh, my God, you're right. But maybe, like, killing the silver is like a...

And I don't think that they should, but it's like a... Kill the boy and let the man be born thing. I don't know. Yeah, lady sends her regards. Fuck. Fuck. I know you pointed this out. Danny's explosive diarrhea and vomiting is representative of her body

trying to purge the metaphorical poison a marine from her. I'm just repeating it in awe because I completely overlooked this for the past 10-plus years. Thank you. I'm the same, I guess. Yeah. Yeah. after her marriage to his dar Marine is ostensibly a city without slaves

so too was pentos slavery is illegal there but even so they were slaves yeah and then setting aside the hatching of her dragons as the definitive hinge of her life

this chapter could be Danny becoming Azora High smoke drogan and salt from the blood of her miscarriage and then also points out that Danny eating with drogan is kind of parallel to her eating the heart in agate yeah that is interesting

sick yeah fucking sick I love this point about Marine being a city without slaves and so is Pento's and I will say you know the US allegedly a country without slavery but have you all ever looked at prisons

have any of you ever looked at our prison system that's it that's all I have I mean obviously everything else after words and then when you learn about wage discrepancy yeah which was like the intent right and we discussed that like regarding reconstruction but still I was like, dang, all right, bars.

Thank you, Tech. Yeah, incredible. Holy shit, holy shit. Great. My mind was blown. Yeah. All right, here's so, again, as Chloe said, Sunflower Solace has been making a reappearance. And this one says the discussion about Danny being physically exhausted and just wanting to sleep.

Reminds me of a few chapters ago when she's listening to Dario Snore and wishing she could sleep. Yes, that was really, it was good also, like, because she felt that way with his dark. too. And Sunflower Soul wonders, I wonder if she's going to experience insomnia and later books, and if that's going to be a repeated theme of just wanting inner peace, definitely feels like something George is playing with. Yeah, insomnia does feel like notable, especially because generally people with insomnia end up being pushed through further stress from the insomnia, from the lack of sleep. Yeah. Yeah. So if you have something, that's already under a lot of pressure, insomnia is going to help them make great choices

in their lives. For sure. And walk around not at their best, signed the podcasters who don't sleep very well, like five hours a day, you know? It's bad. Shit's bad. Like, I got lost in the dark tonight in the Poconos driving a car. I'm like, oh, it's dark out.

I don't know where I am. Where is this place I'm going to? And then, like, also, I wake up every night halfway through when I'm supposed to. Same. That's what happening to me a lot lately, and especially also, like, for a while there, because I got it like a baby bladder, you know? BPN, girls gone pissing. Yeah, as opposed to, you know, the poop episode. Oh, my God, finally.

Yeah, there's that. Yeah, I don't know. I've been making up in the middle of the night every now and then recently. That's it. Or dehydrated. I also have the opposite problem where I'm very dehydrated. Oh, yeah, I do that too. When I'm at Chloe's, because usually I'm just having my big water bottle next to me in bed, but because I don't always bring it, so I, like, go to bed with, like, two glasses of water. And I put them next to my bed at Chloe's apartment.

That's real. That's so real to me, so I need to figure that out. I think I need to change the lid. I think I need a new lid. We also got another comment from our friend Sunflower Solis in response to one of the bloopers that I I posted in which I accidentally said the Dragon Reborn instead of the Griffin Reborn when introducing our chapters and I was like, I think I was like in a Wheel of Time mindset and Sunflower Solis goes Wheel of Time reference when we get the Isidai gone canon. And I'm sorry

but I don't think we're going to do Wheel of Time maybe ever. Yeah, I'm sorry but I have to put my foot down here. Yeah. It's not happening. There are a lot of things I would do for Eliana, but this is just one that I hadn't, I just don't have the, I can't right now. I can't. It's not something that's in my life plan. Yeah, same. There's a lot of things that I would do for Eliana, and this is also not in my life plan. I enjoyed the show to the extent of what we got. I think that, okay, if, Chloe, if you, like, ever decided to watch it, do it for the costumes. The costumes are amazing in Wheel of Time. You have no backbone. The show is fine. No, I watched the show. I think I was watching the show like when I was hanging out with you in Philadelphia. Yeah, you were into it.

But I'm never going to read the books as far as I know because A, there's a lot of them. And B, like, there's 15 of them. And, like, he has three wives and we're supposed to be like, this is fine and normal. And I'm sorry, like, if I'm going to read, like, this deep exploration of, like, Mormonism, I'm just going to watch this docu-series I've been watching called The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. And that's, I'll do a series on that. There are other books that we're going to do. Probably.

I don't mean to be so defiant. If it's for some people, that's good. It's not for me. Just don't, I don't have time. You don't have a little time. I thought that's a part of me. I'll give that series. And I'm sorry.

I'm sorry. Yeah. Here's the thing that we did read. Here's a thing that Chloe did read. We're going to move to the books that we've been reading. We're talking about now the other. our other part that is wrapped. Now that we are caught up, we're going to be wrapped up for the year

because we like to tell you what we've been consuming because it's fun for us. So Jenny Han, me, I don't have time for the wheel of time. Me, I'm going to read every Jenny Han book. It's a different commitment. It's like whimsical and not serious. So I read the summer I turned pretty books this year. Yeah. Oh, maybe that's why I've been bringing up the triangles on Gossip Girl because I'm into Jenny Han.

Yeah, but it's okay when multiple people are courting a woman or a girl. It's not okay when a guy has three wives. I'm sorry, that's just how I feel. Controversial statement from podcaster Eliana. No, I love the Jenny Han haircut trope, you know, like her girl character has to go. go to another city and get a haircut, become a woman. I don't know if she did that. I don't know if she did that in the book, but yeah, she did do the, like, going to another city. I need to, I need to play.

Yeah. So I haven't read them yet, but I have now also watched the All the Boys series, the trilogy of movies, some dreary days last weekend, rather enjoyed them. I guess whatever about Peter, like I'm glad he, you know,

did what he did and became, you know, maybe more mature. and things maybe will work out. Maybe they won't. I haven't watched the sequel show yet, but I think I'm going to do that too, but I don't have time for the wheel of time. So, again, comma.

No. There is a sequel show. I don't know what's wrong with me. And I do want to watch it. I hear it's good. And you've read them, right? I've read all of the two all the boys I've loved before books. I really like Peter in those,

and I like him a lot in the first movie. I don't really care. hear about, like, the second and the third movie, but I do like the entire trilogy of books. And I think that her arc makes a lot of sense, like, the growth that she goes through in all of them. And I think there's, like, some cute, small things about their relationship, too, in the books. So, I've read all of those books. I have not read all the summer I turned pretty books in Ex-O-Kitty is not from books. So I'm, like, excited. I mean, both, you and I are just swapping. We're just swapping the Jenny Hahn books that we have to read. Yeah, we're doing it for

each other. We did each other's homework. I really respect that. I actually like really did like the summer I turn pretty books. Like it was just like a very cash read. I really like the entire casual nature of the thing. And I also really like the journey for Jenny Han

as someone who's involved with the production and direction of the film and the writing. I think it's really interesting, especially we're going to talk about Suzanne Collins, Miss Collins. Miss Suze. Love her. But Jenny is kind of like that I feel like too in some ways like you can really see where her hand

went into the film but also where she allowed different things to evolve and you know she got to direct a lot of that and guide it with her voice it seems so like some of the changes like I read a lot of good interviews where she's talking about some of the changes she was fine with making and like work to have an active part in or whatever or to like add or flourish things out that maybe weren't in the books and summer I term pretty had a few of those things that worked really well. I mean, season three was really, really good. It was like this love letter to being a lost

late teen, early 20s, you know, and find yourself in another place in Paris. She had her Emily and Paris you know, arc. Which, by the way, they're making Emily and Paris. They're making, I am too, I'm way behind, we can't even talk about it, but they are

making a Borson, an Emily and Paris flavored Borsens, which I think is crazy branding, and I did buy them. Yeah. There was like a caramelized onion and a black truffle, and I did buy them at Thanksgiving because I'm crazy. I'm crazy. They were good. Borson's always good.

You bought the Emily and Paris cheese? Yeah. Whoa. I wish I had known that existed. I would have gotten that for me and my mom for her, because she and I watch like Emily and Paris together. Cute. Sometimes. Not always.

It has nothing to do with her except for like it's called that and it's the flavors are inspired. But I'm here for it. I'm here for it. But Belly's Emily and Perry arc. I digress. I will cover Emily and Paris before I cover Wheel of Time. What? I'm serious.

I'm being dead serious. Oh, my God. And in fact, I would cover Emily and Paris, but I will still not cover Wheel of Time. I'm sorry, Sunflower Solis, thank you for your involvement. I'm just letting you all know where my best. boundaries are. Sorry that we're beating the horse until it's bleeding out in the podcast. We didn't mean for that.

And the horse is not the silver. Oh, my God, no. Yeah, I really, I've been enjoying Jenny Hahn's evolution as well. I like, it sucks that, like, she's getting a lot of critique for, and I understand why, like, certain narratives are being, like, kind of furthered by the portrayal of, like, race and, like, how her. her leads are like both like half Asian women but I also think like as far as I think if she had to fight to have Laura Jean be half Asian and like she wasn't even allowed to do that because her publishers wouldn't let her in the summer I turn pretty books and like like do I think would it be awesome if we had like full representation yeah and like

like do I think that the industry should be further yeah um but also I understand that the reality of it is like we're having a conversation even like right now like a lot of people are like where are the Asian actors what happened you know we showed that we could sell things like when it came to crazy rich Asians so like what's going on so anyway yeah big recession context well that and I'm just like you guys like context come on like think about the year like yeah things have come a long way in a short time and like I'm it's worrying that people are trying to roll them back but like yep in the early 2000s or 2010 you know like

people are sometimes like oh some shows didn't put I'm like this was the first time that it was ever depicted on TV like with you know like the same sex like cartoon character kissing anyways yeah that's all yeah oh we should do Cora anyways Um, I'm not going to do Cora. I didn't mean to say it like that. I'm not, I'm not, oh, I mean. She got a haircut and then I got a haircut soon after.

You're just like anime blushed. I'm not saying it wasn't inspired by her. Amazing. Amazing. No, she can do anything. I love Cora. I won't hear a single bad thing about Cora. So jot that down.

I want to talk about another person who, you know, had to fight for her stuff and had a good hand in the stuff she's putting out. And actually, over Thanksgiving, I rewatched, also we're covering this right now, but I rewatched all of the Hunger Games movies, including T-Bossass. It was a Thanksgiving ritual. I decided to start. Yeah? Yeah.

It was actually perfect, like, as they, like, emblazing around the cornucopia in a literal blood bath. We're all eating at the Choracopia. Yeah, dude, it was great. Hungy Games fever going on. And then I also re-read Sunrise on the Reaping. And I really liked it more this time. I liked it a lot more.

Yeah. I also ranked them. Do you want my ranking? Is this a listical? Yeah, let's go for it. It's BuzzFeed. We're going back to the 2010. To True Hunger Games era.

Give me the BuzzFeed article. In last place. Mocking J. Part one, question mark. Of the movies? Yeah, it just doesn't do it for me. It's too... There's a lot going on that doesn't work for it.

There's a lot of good stuff, but also there's a lot that really doesn't work for it. And it's kind of like, not to speak the Harry Potter name, grown, but it's kind of like when Hot Topic was selling merchandise through the fifth Harry Potter movie. Okay. Like, the Death Eaters showed up with the Yossify. like crazy, like, swirly masks and robes that you could then go buy a hot topic. Yeah. And like also maybe this is also coming from like, I just saw Wicked for Good and it's 40 minutes

of universal, well, universal like sponsored movies and events and stuff, like commercials at the beginning. It was literally 40 minutes before the movie. It was not. I was like, oh, you're selling. You're selling. We are selling. And it doesn't make you feel kind of gross.

Ironic. Okay. Except for the part where I still, yeah, and that's my, I'm like. Like, they could have commercialized the Hunger Games more, like in universe. Yeah, though, they could have. They could have. That's true. Okay, in fourth place is going to be probably catching fire.

Interesting. And I would maybe even tie this with Mocking Jay Part 2. But catching fire on rewatch really does suck. The pacing's all wrong. It's, I actually feel like, and I really think as we get to two and one, in second place, or wait, three. Well, I guess, like, if I tie four and five, then I can't do. five so whatever put them in whatever order i really they could go either way mocking jay part two and catching fire switch them on and off and let me like toggle them like a coin but like a

president coin then i'm gonna say comes t boss ass and then comes hunger games i literally think it's hunger games t boss ass is one and two t boss ass is really good and i feel like hunger games was so good in a way that you can't recreate that it was magic it was just like just right and that Francis Lawrence didn't really find his footing until kind of more towards the end

like he really got his rhythm back and I'm sure there was like studio interference and shit to get it all to make money from it for a while it was really popular but it just doesn't cohesively tell the entire story in some ways but Teva's ass all in one go

three and a half hour like the whole thing, I wish we had. I think it's actually like two and a half. Let's see, hold on. T-Boss has. Three and a half is long. No, it's two and a half, but I'm being dramatic, I guess. That's still long.

But there is... Two and a half is still quite long for a movie. Nowadays, nowadays, nowadays, in today's landscape. Oh my God, okay, Zumer. No, it's true. No, like, I'm being serious. Like, or maybe are movies getting longer? Wait, no.

I don't know how the trends are going. Sometimes I'm like, maybe the movies are getting longer. What? You literally don't watch movies. I'm trying to, I'm trying to, I'm trying to watch more. I'm about to talk about two that I did not add to the list. I'll add them to the end and then, well, no. I'm trying to watch two this coming week.

I know, crazy. Who is she? Wow. Anyway, we'll get there in a second. That's foreshadowing. But speaking of not watching movies, yeah, I have no opinion on this ranking. I, like, cannot comment on it because I haven't yet watched Mocking Jay Part 2 or 1 or Teabossass. And obviously, neither you nor I have watched Sunrise.

on The Reaping. But I will say this about Mocking Jay Part 1. It gives us yellow flicker beat. And I fucking love that song. Like that could make up for the whole movie, for all I know. I'm a princess. Yeah. Lord's never failed.

She's never fucking failed. You know who's failing the birds. I really wish the birds would fucking get it together. I'm sorry. I'm sorry that's happening to you. It's okay. It's okay. It's okay.

Before we move on. Okay, here's what I have to say, though, about Sunrise on the Reaping. Oh, yeah. The movie that's coming out soon based on the book. Oh, my God. Did you see that TikTok about McKenna Grace being told? What one? Okay, it's so funny.

So I guess she did like Five Nights at Freddy's with Josh Hutcherson, whose name I now know. Oh, yeah, yeah. And the E reporter's like, I love a valley. She's going to be in Sunrise on the Reaping also, but she's, The, yeah, the e-reporter fucking was like, I'm so sorry. I blew up your spot. And she's like, looks confused. And he goes, I told Josh about your PETA TikToks.

Because apparently McKenna Grace years ago, told in a teen folk. Made PETA TikToks. Articles that she used to make a lot of team PETA TikToks. And the look of sheer panic, like, it's real. It's a very real panic. She's like, oh, my God. She's like, why would you tell him that? Because, you know, obviously she's been playing it very cool as they made this whole other movie.

And now Josh knows, which he did it before. And she's like, I would have never said that in that interview if I had known I was going to work with him. I'm like, oh, girl. But, um, it's so, it's so precious. That's reminding us your dreams can come true. Yeah, but also at the same time of your nightmare when they find out that you did this. Welcome to your nightmare.

Yeah, trailer looks really good, though. Really, really good. I haven't watched it yet. You know me. I like to go in cold. I like to not watch trailers if I, like, can get away with it and just, like, be like, the full unfiltered experience. No, I like to build things up so hard.

Oh. You know, in my heart, in my soul, I'm a true romantic, so I really have to, you know, hype up the event and then go see it. And then I usually feel euphoric after. It feels great. Oh, good. Some people feel the opposite after. No, I love movies.

You know, the, like, trolley car meme with the guy looking out of the train on one side of happy the other side looking upset. I'm the guy looking out happy. Oh, I love this movie. Aw. Yeah. I'm just not on the train. It's real. At all. What I'm trying to be. So speaking of things that I do on the plane, I actually almost completely finished reading all of annihilation in one flight, like a five-hour flight. It's very brief. Would recommend, I have not watched the movie, so I have no idea how it compares. And apparently it's like a quadrology. I don't know what the fucking quartet. It's a quartet.

It was really interesting. You know, I know, I know, like, we don't love him either. But, like, it did feel a little lovecraftian. It's got this kind of, like, interesting, like, mystery around the world building that is not necessarily resolved in that book. But, yeah, it was a fun, fun book. I would have finished it on the flight if I hadn't fallen asleep to tie it back. I took a couple naps.

But after that, I started. I actually started two other books. One is Light from Uncommon Stars. And part of what was interesting to me about that one is it takes place in the San Gabriel Valley, which is, you know, very large immigrant and Asian population outside, like a little bit outside of L.A. It's like, oh, very fun. And this focuses on, I think, like, a trans man who's learning violin.

And, like, it's got an interesting cast. It's not like the best written book, but it's fun. It's got an interesting idea. And now I'm also reading a darker shade of magic because everyone's been recommending it to me. And I've been actually wanting to read this one for years. Now I'm finally doing it. Oh, I'm really, I have V.E. Schwab on my list. Like, it's the list of things I'm going to read that aren't the wheel of time.

I'm sorry, but this is on the list. It's literally in my, I'm sorry. It is in my list majorly. Like, it's in my wish list. Like, girl, get in there and read it. So I need to get into it. I need to do some reading. I've been doing a lot of scrolling, which is not reading.

You're quite ahead of your goal for this year, right? Like, you've finished it like months ago. Oh, I beat it. No, I just beat it, actually, like last month. Well, whatever. That was basically months ago. But I said it low. I said it low this year.

So, like, because I wanted to. achieve something and not make myself feel like shit for not doing it, you know, because I've learned to be kind of myself in my against ears. Yeah. So that's important. I'm, but I'm like, I'm telling you, I want to get into that. So I'm on my way. I'm coming. Get ready. I'll let you know. Yeah. I've, like, I'm only a few chapters in, but it's a good reminder. I think I'll, maybe I'll, like, pick it back up and read more tonight. But yeah. Do you know what I'm literally in the middle of? No. Likeable badass. How women get the success they deserve. I don't know. I saw some girls talking about it on TikTok.

I don't do nonfiction, though. Okay, interesting. It's not for me. I actually like a nonfiction reader. I'm also reading some Freud. Okay. A fiction? Yeah, another fiction.

The interpretation of dreams because I'm trying to understand my weird fucking dreams that I get in the last two hours of sleep that I come back to it from like six to 7 a.m. Yeah. Some of my dreams make sense. Some of them don't. Like I woke up the other day and I was like, Like, I was just so mad at my partner.

I was like, I can't believe you'd do that. I was like, I was so mad. And I was like, that didn't happen. None of that happened. So. Man, that's so real. That's like, I keep a lot of, hold on, I'm going to, I'm going to read you all one of my notes on my dreams. Because none of them, like, make sense and I write them down for some reason.

Like, this is, and it's so fragmented. I'm going to skip some things here. It's all just very strange. but Dolly Parton was on my street apparently in this dream. Like, wow. I could believe it. Yeah, it was really crazy. It actually turned very dark.

Like, I'm rereading what I wrote and I'm like, what is this dream? Maybe we find another dream. This is crazy. Oftentimes, I'm like, you know, superpowered, which is very fun. I love being superpowered. Mm-hmm. Same. I do.

I usually have telekinesis or flying. Yep, I have a lot of telekinesis, a lot of telekinesis. I'm like really strong. Do we crave control? I think so. It's like I haven't found anything else about it besides pretty much that. So that's life. I just really loved the girl with the silver eyes, a children's book, but a sci-fi children's book.

I don't even remember what happens in that book, but I loved it. Did you read this one? No, but I feel like I know it. Tell me, it didn't. It feels like it's like what push was based on. I mean, so it's published in. And we're Googling it now. Oh my gosh.

This one blog called Lost Classics of Teen Lit has it on there. I'm like, aw. Okay, so let's see. Let's see what Goodreads. It's like in the Ella Enchancement. It's published in 1980. That's crazy. Wow.

Yeah, anyways. Yeah, she has telekinesis and doesn't have very many friends and people start asking around. And I don't know. It's like 11 shit. And by 11, I mean, stranger things. Oh, okay, Millie Bobby. All right, what else are you reading? As you all know, I'm still in the middle of Gone with the Wind.

Earlier this year, I want to come back to this one because I've been recommending it to people before. I actually was anti-reconding it to people because I was like, you're going to have a breakdown. Like when the world gets better and maybe when all of our mental health gets better, everyone should read Parable, the Sower. Because, oh, yeah. All right, you know, I went through, like many people this year, hiccup, employment-wise, to put it very lightly. And then I read Parable The Sower a little too soon after it first happened. And I was like, the world's falling apart. I need to start, like, getting ready for all this stuff.

And I was like, everything is going bad. This is what the future looks like. It is taking place right now today. And I'm not convinced that that's not the case. Like, if you read Parable Disorder, you'd be like, this is today. It literally starts. Like, it literally starts in the year 2024. This was written in the 90s.

So, anyways. Oh, no. Eliana, are you okay? This is like that time I watched Speed Racer and that time I watched, what was the other movie I watched? There were no drugs involved and beat.

It's a time I lost my mind though. I'm back, I'm now like in a better, I'm like, no, everyone should be parable to soar now not in a like, it's going to depress you and make you think that the world, you've got to get fucking ready. Everyone should be parable to sewer. No, I'm serious right now.

Okay You're going to work on it I'm putting it in my To read You're going to read it And you're going to be like Eliana This is today

I'm ready I'm ready But in a like Not happy way And they're like Oh everything's going to shit Yeah Everything is going to shit

That is the world That is How it goes Can I talk about The Rose Field I guess Yes, you may I've seen some

I don't usually do spoilers as we've just covered regarding trailers but I needed it for this to like no I was just emotionally prepare It's so funny because it's the exact opposite of what it usually is with us because you were messaging me all these things about it when I was mid reading it

and I was trying to have a very untouched experience I was not going on Reddit I read it like that weekend because I didn't want to get spoiled and because I knew I would and I did get like a couple small spoilers but that said you were sending me like saying oh I saw this link talking about a theory about Malcolm

or talking about something that happens with Malcolm and I'm like no if you tell me I will bleed you out I like was ready to beat your ass I was like shut your mouth do not spoil this book to me I'm like I was taking it very seriously and I want you to know that I shouldn't have because

well I had like this was not worth being serious This is not a serious book. I'm sorry that I'm dramatic sometimes because it was just like a book. It wasn't, it was a little disappointing in some ways. You know, we talk a lot about like George Wright is kind of a freak. Like he lets his freak flag fly when he writes. He doesn't necessarily change that freak flag for others. How he writes a sex scene, for example, is how he writes it, who he writes it,

between is who he writes it between if you love it you hate it that's fine but he wrote what he wanted to write you know and i don't necessarily think that philip pullman didn't write what he wanted to but there are some certain elements that he leaned into in the secret commonwealth which on like a retrospective look i do want to reread it and i want to read it with you and like go through it but I am a little let down with the way the trilogy ends, question mark. It's definitely an ending, but it just felt like juiceless, you know? Like, it was meatless, man. It was like having, like, bread and being told it was a sandwich.

Like, it's like somebody gives you an Italian sub and it's like one meat, maybe, and a few scraps of it and like some cheese, if you're lucky. And, like, nothing else. Like, there's nothing in it. It's empty. Yeah, exactly. of Borson, Emily, and stop, they aren't paying us, so it's not worth saying. That's true.

They should. At the very least, they should send this free cheese. I will reread the Rosefield someday, probably. I would rather reread the secret commonwealth. He doesn't lean into like everything that he sets up in the

secret commonwealth, I feel like doesn't get closed up well or doesn't get responded to, which is fine. but it's weird because he's a little more meticulous where we cover a lot of George's story and he's more of a gardener. I feel like Pullman is a little more stern and disciplined.

And it was a very undisciplined book and not like him. So I don't know. Maybe there's more to it and maybe I just need to reread it. I didn't feel good about Sunrise on the Reaping 100% when I first read it. I was like maybe like giving it like a C, not like a B or an A. And I would say it's up to like a B or A now, like, because I feel like it fits into the master plan of the three book kind of echoes that Suzanne Collins goes into. She's like, okay, this trilogy, each book is going to correspond. Sunrise on the Reaping was catching fire.

Like, I just, I get it so much more now when I compare the two books. And so I really love that reread. So maybe a reread of the Rosefield and a reread of Commonwealth will, like, do me good. But I just don't hold my breath about it. Yeah. Yeah. It's a bummer. It's been hard, but, like, I wonder if there's, like, a true version of the Rosefield somewhere in his notes, you know?

We're going to find it. Yeah. But I will tell you, like, nothing that I predicted came true. But not in a fun way. Like, that's how I felt about Mickey 17. I was like, I could not have told you anything that was going to happen in this movie. Yeah. But it's also kind of.

But I loved the whole ride of Mickey 17. I wish I loved it. I wish I loved the ride of the Rosefield. I just casually read it instead of being online. So that's good. Yeah. It was fine. But I wasn't devouring it like I was devouring Robin Hobbs' Farsier Trilogy.

So if you were going to pick one and you haven't read the Farsier trilogy, I would say you should start there and then come back. back to the Rose Field. It'll still be here. Which might be what we do, possibly. I mean, we finish Historic Materials, all right? Like, that's a whole series.

Yeah. You know? And... We even did La Belle Svage. Yeah. And, like, okay, sometimes you have to get to a point where you're like,

I just don't know if I consider this canon. Like, how I feel about the last season of Veronica Mars. Or, like, Rise of Skywalker. True. True, true, true.

Yeah. I can just reject those things. Yeah. I don't know. Anyways. What have you been watching? Now you're a movie girly. What else is new?

I'm not really movie girly. I just, I have watches every now and then. But, okay, I will say, I love my girl, Molly Gordon. And so I watched, oh, hi. And then I watched that for you. I know that you watched it recently, too. So let's talk about that. Yeah.

I think we could do an episode on it. Oh, okay. I'm not like obsessed with theater camp also, which if we ever do, we should have our friend, Alex Augusta. Yeah, we should do theater camp. That's a good call. That's a good call. We should do that then, oh, hi. But yeah, I, it was fine. It was cute. It was a romp. It was a screwball. It was a little crazy. And then at the end, they were a little crazy together. So I kind of like that. It could have been, um, oh, I like Tobias. I like David Cross in it, too. I like, I like also Geraldine Biswanathan was in it as well. And I like her from, I actually did watch blockers. And I liked her in that. I didn't watch that.

Should I watch that? I thought that was fun. It's cute. Like, I mean, you don't have to. You will live without it. Hmm. Understood. Understood.

Yeah, I need to come back to some shows, so we'll see. Oh, I also loved the Broken Hearts Gallery, which, if you haven't seen that, that one's actually, like, that one would be fun to watch. Oh, okay. Oh, Molly, Molly Gordon's actually, she's in that. too as like a Geraldine's friend so oh okay yeah she's everywhere she's everywhere these days i guess they're friends i do like that about molly gordon she's like um it's like tweet is bad yeah that's you know like move over zoie dash now there's a new generation i mean everything's cyclical now

but also like i like that molly gordon just seems like she just kind of works with or cast somehow yeah she's really like they're clearly just her friends but you know what not just that but also like I feel like this newer generation of actor in general is being a little more choosy about who they work with and they're curating their own kind of bubble younger and sooner and I look at things like like PTA right like PTA made Boogie Nights like when he was like 26 I think 28 somewhere in there 26 I think is the big deal he made it then so like you have to think he's casting actors in his age range and then they're growing up with him right so you think of like actors like him

who bring people up and are like hey like I'll always have a place for you or always cast his friends and the group of people and I guess that's kind of like what we all want right like you all want to build a community where you can support one another and I think that's special and I think that like seeing actors do that and directors do that and certain folks do that where they are making what they love and doing what they love, and it's very, like, authentic, you know, things that are authentic to them, and they're working on things with intention. I think that's back in.

Like, I think, you know, like, reasserting capitalism in your own way is back in. I think, yeah, it can be back in. It just, like, isn't always in theaters, unfortunately, and isn't always shown in the trailers. You have to compromise. You have to compromise. Yeah, as I, again, like, I still think about, like, the trailers right before one battle after another. which I told you about. I'm like, oh, all of these are an existing IP or book or remake.

Like I said about Wicked. It was so bad the trailers before. I was like, this is literally, our good friend Madeline was with me, and she, like, turned to me and was like, oh, that's disgusting. And I'm like, yeah, I'm disgusted. It's disappointing. Disgusted. So these two, okay, one of this is, it's an adaptation, but of a true story. These two movies, as far as I can tell, are not.

of existing IPs. I have not seen them yet. They're coming out this weekend. Well, one of them is coming out in other like theaters this weekend, but technically first released in New York last week. Rose Mead starring and is it also produced? Hold on. Rosemead producer. Uh, yeah, Rosemead produced and starring Lucy Lou. It's based on a true story that I think takes place in Rosemead, California. Really tragic, but really interesting in regards to like what you know mental health and being Asian and Asian American so I'm like really excited about that I think it's probably only showing for about a week it drops yeah and then the other one is resurrection which I don't know much about it looks really weird I've been getting fed trailers for

it and it seems very interesting I can tell you a little bit about it because my partner saw it during the film festival yeah it's really good yeah I'm I'm like, I could read you his letterbox. Should we go to let it? Did he write a review? I don't know. I don't want the whole, yeah, but I guess something about dreams and immortality. It's very much, like, good to pontificate on and pointless in a good way.

Like, it's tons of just dream sequences, and he kind of commented that it reminds him of, like, when he was a younger. This is paraphrasing. So, if I get this wrong, legally. you can't divorce me if you're listening. Anyways, something along the lines, like being a young, like, pretentious cinephile, like, you know, a decade ago maybe compared to now

and, like, watching things that are kind of like, like, I don't know, pretentious, a little too much into themselves, you know, and like, oh, we're doing this dream sequence, nothing means anything, and it's just sequences. He still likes it and, like, said, it was really beautiful, and he's like, but it's just,

boy, I can't watch that forever anymore. he just likes different movies now which I understand but like it's a fun you know if you're watching one here and there it's like yeah and also he was like it was fucking beautiful like the colors were really great and all the sequences were really good and um but yeah it was I didn't get to go see that one I was kind of sad that I didn't get to go because it sounded kind of cool yeah I might watch it on Sunday and I'm just I'm kind of curious because I know it's also like a Chinese film so I'm just like interested in And that as well, yeah, here I am. I'm just out here standing, you know, Asian filmmakers right now. So, yeah.

No, I respect that. I respect that. I love, um, I just like the ones that are full of color, too, especially in that style. I know it's interesting because the same guy made, I think it's, um, Diamond Sutra and it's a black and white film. So that's so different that he has also made like complete opposite film, one that's just bursting with color versus one that's, not. I really enjoyed a lot of the color in Taipei in left-handed girl this year as well, and I highly recommend that if you get a chance to see that. No, I'm just saying another movie that I saw at the festival, another one that's full of color. Like, there's just a lot this season full of color taking place in beautiful places and night markets and, like, just good use of color, because I feel like in everyday fucking life, all the shows on TV have the gray filter because they're backlit wrong

because the reason they do that is because the lighting they made it so they can change things easily in the background and they have to have a neutral gray light and like so messed up it's because the Night King sucked all the color out oh that one time on HBO and now HBO's broken one time on HBO

movies are beautiful though Some things that I've been watching These have a lot of vibrant color But that's because they're anime I've been watching a lot of anime this year Dan to Dan Oh my god Chloe if you haven't watched this one You should check out Dan to Dan

The first season Probably one of the coolest best Like opening themes of any anime It's also just like a really fun story very interesting and unique And like it's tone and stuff And kind of heartwarming Apothecary Diaries

also kind of heartwarming, and I'm also like, I think I was an apothecary in another life, you know, out there with my plants, making them into potions and medicine. Also, she doesn't do this, but I've heard, you know, people would sometimes go to like some sort of apothecary or like herb woman or something. You're like, oh, I don't know what to do. My husband's like been, like, abusive and then you give them poison. Not that I would ever kill anyone for public recording. Huh.

Okay. I'm glossing over that. Is Dan to Dan, do they have like school uniforms-ish on kind of? They do. Okay, because I feel, you know, like most of my knowledge of anime first stems from seeing it at a convention and knowing people that are cosplaying it and then be like, huh, I should check that out. Then I don't do that anymore. But I feel like I recognize the name in having seen costumes from it.

Yeah, that's one. The other one that has, like, I guess also... I'm a sucker for an anime with a, like, school uniform, you know? Like, I love shuffle. I didn't watch that one. Oh, it was very fun. I like a harem anime. I don't know what it is.

Oh, okay. Interesting. We're all learning a lot about each other. We are. But, like, not... We're still not going to cover Wheel of Time. Stop! It's like, that was, that was relevant. That was relevant in regards to hairm anime.

I'm also watching Freerun. and, like, I cry after every episode. Oh, okay. It's beautiful. That's good. So all these have a lot of color. Yeah. Oh, industry's coming back soon.

Wow. Yeah. Oh, my God. That one's exciting. I just remember. It's crazy. It's right around the corner. I'm not caught up on my anime.

I've been doing a really bad job, so... You've actually been reading. Except my punishment. I've been reading. Yeah. I'm going to try to keep reading. You know, you got a... Like, I just realized someday I won't be able to.

Oh, we got audiobooks for that. Well, I mean, after that, too, like when I'm dust. So I got to read everything I can now. Yeah. It's crazy. It's crazy. Just reading, you know, the little one-inch subtitles at the bottom of things. That's reading.

You should count that as well as a minute. I'm a sub-girlie as opposed to a dub girly. In case any of you were wondering. Also, for my final trick, I want you to know that. I am also really into Snoopy again right now. So, like, very into Snoopy from Charlie Brown. Yeah. Oh, okay.

Yeah. I mean, this was the season to get back. Yeah. Well, we always seasonally watch. We always watch the holiday ones, you know? Aw. Like, you have to. It's like a religion in my household.

So we watch those together, and then we laugh. And also, I'm a big fan of the musical that only went around once back in the 90s. What? Yeah, the Charlie Brown musical. Oh my God. Kristen Chenoweth is Sally.

What? I don't know this. Yeah, absolutely. Hold on. I'm going to send you a link. You're a good man, Charlie Brown. It's originally a 1967 musical, but then got a 1999 revision.

And it was only like once. And it was amazing. And, well, I mean, it happened, like, in the 80s, in the 60s, but 98 did a U.S. tour, and it was, like, a Broadway tour. Then it went off and on. It could come back, though. Like, China actually had a premiere of it in 24, off West End, off Broadway, back in the 2016s, the good days. Snoopy is still very popular, so that would make sense. No, Snoopy is the king.

He's the king of everything. I love him. But he does have a song, and it's a real. really good song and it's about being a dog and I love that for him. So I highly recommend. Yeah. And also, you know, we talked about someday covering theater camp.

It could always happen for us, but I just went to see Hades Town for the second time and it was a really good production in Philly. Yeah, I wish you could have come. I actually won the lottery. They always do lotteries, you know? Oh, yeah. So if you're ever like in a city

and you're like, may as well try for a couple days, try the lottery. Maybe you'll get lucky. get a cheap show. It was only like $35 a ticket for me. Yeah, that's a really great. That's a really great price for that. Really good seats. They were really, really good seats. They're usually good seats. So Philly, I feel like I got really lucky. I hope I get to do that again. And I'm going to check on other shows. But, oh my God, it was a really good showing of it. And every time I listen to it, like, every time I see it, I then have to listen to the soundtrack over and over again for like weeks until it's burnt out of my skull and my whole household probably cat and husband

included like probably is so mad because like I just like it's in there like an earworm but um like I did listen to it driving to my job today um that did happen it was a whole exact Hades town to get to where I needed to go today it was great but there are just so many great bits of like orpheus you know so you're you're familiar yeah i've listened to like i've listened i like listened to it before like i think they finally decided to actually start doing productions of it yes i listen to the old version yeah same so that's the version i'm most familiar with yeah yeah well you're familiar with like the myth as well you know of orpheus and euritacy you've heard of it a couple times well only a few times only a bit

it's like so beautiful though because the musical runs all these late motifs that then like tie in the character arcs to them and like you have hades and persephone being this like dark shadow and contrast in not just like appearance and not just story and being the older kind of generation with the same story and going through the same hurt as orpheus and eurydice do and like the whole concept of like the cyclical nature of time and like why do we have to keep trying well because we have to keep trying like that's the lesson and even if like it turns out the same and like the repetition of it all and like that it all comes back to where it starts at the end and also that like orpheus is down in the minds inspiring them to break free from their like enslaved status with hades and that he's inspiring like comrade orpheus is like we're going to break out of this fucking mine it's like an incredible musical if you get a chance if it's touring near you or if you can travel if you're able to travel. Highly recommend if you're, you know, on the internet, you can figure out how to find it. It's out there. Maybe they'll do a pro shot. That would be so cool because the Hamilton one's

actually really good. But it was really good. I cannot stress. Like, just go see it. If you get a chance, take it. It's always good. They're all amazing. I've snoozed too much on doing it. And I think like next time it comes around, I am going to prioritize it. And I like told someone, And I was like, I need to, like, really prioritize just going and seeing it. I think I need to give up on my dream of seeing it with you. But, like, we all get another chance. I just need to just, like, go do it by myself at some point. Or not even by myself.

Oh, my God. I know. And also, like, to tie it into some of the other stuff we've brought up today, Lola Tong also did a, has some performances in some of the productions of Hades. She was actually really good. Hades Town. Sorry, Hades Town. So of Hades Town, yeah.

Not the video game. My partner likes to do the Orpheus and Eurydice song. He likes to be like, oh, they should do that next, like at the end of the musical. He's like, why are they not singing that? And he says it every time. So pretty much every time I play the musical at home, I just play the Orpheus Eurydice, Hades game song at the end. Just for him. Yeah.

It's a part of the musical now. Precious. Yeah. I mean, there's a story. some crossover. There's some crossover. We got some good mythology in the last couple years. Yeah, that's true. It's really like a time for those of us who made Greek mythology our whole life in elementary school. Again, like this is, there's more than one, there's a lot of us. There's

not a huge amount of us, but there's a significant enough amount of us and we're all, we are thriving right now. Let's put it that way. We are growing every day. every day yeah you know 2025 was a year it was a no it was like a thousand years

it was like 10,000 years but it's also like over yeah it was also at the same time like a minute which I said about like I guess 2020 but like this very much felt like I don't know this was a crazy year this is a difficult if the rest are like this I'm like I don't know I don't know if I want them

I really hope they're not and like I don't know I ain't trying to jinx 2026 I don't I never like hold those kinds of expectations so give us a break 2026 honestly but it could end up being like the way things go in parable the sower in which there are no breaks oh dear I don't know that I want to read that I don't need to have a mentee bee. I think you should read. You will have a mentee.

I had one absolutely after reading it. But it's a duology. I don't remember if the second one is like... I haven't read it the second book. It might be more optimistic. All right, Butler. I'm looking at it. We'll see.

We'll see. We'll see what happens. Eliana. It's been a pleasure to another year. Oh, Chloe. another year doing this around the sun if you're listening to this in real time

at time of publishing this one's coming out for you 12, 12, 2025 Wow Wow, we'll be back next week 1219 with the Hedge Knight Part 1 Whoa

Yeah, that's right We're taking it old school and we will be off for the holiday. We'll come back January 9th. And on January 9th, it's Hedge Knight Part 2, January 16th. It's Hedge Night probably Part 3. Let's just face the facts. And then, finally, Duncan Egg, Night of the Seven Kingdoms.

It's beginning. It's happening. Medieval and Funtime World, yeah. Yep, it's finally happening. Eliana's so happy. It's happening for her. And if that's season one, that means season two is going to be for Chloe, and it's going to be the birthday wrap. Oh, my gosh, it is.

That's what they're going to do. They're remaking all of that, the beginning parts of Game of Thrones to be the birthday wrap. Holy shit, holy shit. So, yeah, let's add the Hedge Knight onto the things that we are in the middle of reading this year, but also something else. We touched on this, Catching Fire. We are finishing up Catching Fire, Part 2. No, sorry. Catching Fire Act 3, Part 2. It's not easy to say, so, you know, don't be so hard on yourself.

We're being gentle with ourselves. That's the lesson Chloe said. Okay, we're finishing that up this month for Patreon. Yeah, I'm excited because I do love that book. And, man, that movie's... We forgot to tell you... We forgot to tell you all when brunches. Oh, yes. Brunch is going to be 12, 28, Sunday.

It's going to be a one-hour block, TBA. We'll have that out soon. So keep it your eyes peeled on Patreon. Patreon.com slash girls gone canon. That is where you can get bonus episodes that sometimes veer into tangent territory, much like we did today. We hope you appreciate us for who we are. As always, thanks for listening.

Thanks. I've been one of your hosts, Chloe, question mark. And I've been another one of your host, Eliana. Thanks for this. And for being, if you're here, you probably are in the top percentage. Those 207 people. Christ. We're an acquired taste.

Bye. Bye.