Girls Gone Canon Cast - Minisode: Waiting for 'A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms'

Episode Date: August 30, 2024

Chloe and Eliana talk about the casting of the upcoming series, 'A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms' and some things we're excited to see   Intro by Anton Langhage, "Cup of Coffee"

Hello, and welcome to Girls Gone Canon, a special episode, a mini-sode, if you will, of A Night of the Seven Kingdoms. We're going to be talking about the soon-to-be-a-thing TV adaptation of Dunkin' Egg. I'm one of your hosts, Chloe. And I'm another one of your hosts, Eliana. Yes, we are going to talk about, I mean, we haven't discussed this yet really not not in any depth i think the upcoming hbo live action series coming out in 2025 yeah duncan egg or yeah night of the seven kingdoms as the collected three stories are called yes three stories and we'll see if that equates to three seasons or if we're going to get the rest of it on screen.

Are we in for another Game of Thrones delight? And before we get into that, spoiler policy, anything that's published, anything that's on TV, whether it's Game of Thrones, Hot D, Ace Swath in its entirety, the World of Ice and Fire, it's on the table. If you're listening to us, it's on the table, usually. If we are out there and we're like, we're not going to discuss this, then keep that in mind. But we're gonna, we're probably always gonna discuss it because we're girls like that. We're also going to discuss the entirety of The Hedge Knight, which is the first Dunkin' Egg novella

that the first season's going to be based on. You will not get enjoyment out of this episode if you do not know what the fuck we're talking about. I mean, you might, but you will not get enjoyment if you do not wish to know what will happen. We've been on a little bit of a hiatus post-Hot D. As you said, we really haven't talked about a night of the seven kingdoms yet uh because we've been so inundated with targaryen dragon craziness

every week so now is our time to reflect but since we've been gone to give you an update on our schedules we'll be releasing the final two Unleash the D episodes of season two of Hot D. These are post episodes, right? So usually we have primer episodes getting you excited for Hot D, but these two episodes are really exciting. The first one will be with Megan, Birdie D Cosplay, talking about the costuming in House of the Dragon. And patrons, if you head over to patreon.com slash girls gone canon in the next few weeks hopefully we'll be putting out a visual aid that we're working on side by side so go check that out and after that we have a discussion

releasing with joe magician about the magic of house of the dragon so tune into those two episodes as soon as we finish up with that, though, we will be back to our regular programming, right? Our A Song of Ice and Fire podcast. We discussed the magic of Hot Tea with Matt, as well as the magic of friendship. And we are going to return to our A Song of Ice and Fire read-through with our epilogues,

the A Storm of Swords epilogue and the A Dance with Dragon epilogue, together with our good friend Pat D, who is a House Frey lover, apologist, maybe converted us even a little bit based on our coverage of House Frey during those Catlin episodes, little bit based on our coverage of house fray during those catlin episodes and our friend steph steph lioness from the kiss by fire podcast her co-host beth joined us a few months ago yeah aria right we had aria yeah so so we've collected the pair i'm so excited to have steph on for the kevin chapter and if you know pat you may have seen him on the internet around uh he was a big a swath internet guy i'm sure you might have seen someone posting about black fires and loving them and the phrase and that's that guy if you know that guy he's coming on but you know he's like you have to have him on for this there's

i'm pretty sure he could probably and i'm gonna ask him this recite the fray like lineage succession right now in modern a swap like i'm pretty sure up to published a dance of dragons or maybe even published t wow chapters unpublished i should say uh look under your chairs it's there but yeah he he can he can really test you on some fray stuff so i look forward to talking about that chapter because oh my god i've been rereading and writing some notes for it and merit is pathetic if you are coming to this for the first time and you have not ever listened to us awesome hello we cover regularly a song of ice and fire pov character by pov character and what that means is that we read one character's chapters from point a to point z till completion of what's published so epilogues are one pov

technically we're doing them as such and after that there, there will be a new POV. We are down to the last three POVs left in our reread order. Yeah. It's at the point where I can't even say them because anything I say will be used against us by our patrons to imply that that's next.

So, figure it out. Yeah, figure it out. The Sansa and the barriston povs again just three little blonde shits i just want to redo the barriston ones one day i know i know you do honey i know there are only two chapters right so yeah whatever only a few could happen and i mean like let's let's talk about this, though. Speaking of blasts from the past, Dunkin' Egg holds a very special place in your and my heart, in your and my friendship. Does it? I'm just kidding.

It holds a place. Do we remember it? No, it does. It does. It's special. You and I don't remember what we discussed in that episode. It was three hours long. We were drunk. That actually is only three hours out of the very, very long conversation that we had when we first recorded together. Yeah, our first time recording an episode together back in 2017. Well, second time. No, sorry. Second time. This is a little lore. But the first time we recorded, there were some issues, some technical issues, and we didn't quite get through it. So we

had to rerecord. The second time we recorded, we did fall in love. We were doing a podcast called Drunk, A Song of Ice and Fire History. No one knows what happened to that girl. You know, no one knows where she went. But that podcast ended-ish. Never ended, I guess. It could still happen. I always wonder, could it still happen? Could we bring it back? I don't know.

I could bring it back. You could bring it back. It could happen. I mean, like, let's see how you feel when Wins comes out. You know, anything could really happen. It's anybody's game. It really is. Of Thrones.

Of Thrones. So. But yes, we did the first Dunkin egg novella the hedge knight which is what this first season will be based on our podcast congratulations us wow wow wow i'm just kidding it's based on the drunk based off of young us darren the drunken osaka vice empire historian uh yeah let's talk about some of the actors in the casting for this show i think that's where we want to start because uh you know we're finally putting some ideas to these characters that we've only ever imagined in our minds so it's really interesting to see the direction that they've been taking. Something really cool is that this is like a very ensemble-esque cast, right?

The actual novella itself, the first one is very contained. There are a good amount of characters that pop up towards the mid of the story and then the mid end, but it keeps a tight cast, which allows for the casting to also be kind of tight. a tight cast, which allows for the casting to also be kind of tight. And up until about two weeks ago, I want to say, the most important character to me had not yet been cast. And then I logged onto the internet one morning, and there it was. Henry Ashton as Darren the Drunken. Darren the Dreamer. Can you believe it? Can you believe this happened for me? I cannot. I don't know who this is. I don't know a lot of people. I mean, I know some. We'll discuss

the ones that I do. Yeah, Henry Ashton actually was an outlander. I haven't watched or read it, but was an outlander from what I've heard. And then My Lady Jane, which I've just started and which has suffered a premature end already. Really? Already? It was canceled. Yeah, baby. One and done. Was the first season at least contained, like self-contained as a storyline? I just started it.

I just started it. I do not know. I'm on episode two. Yeah. Really? Yeah, we're going to find out. Well, if I knew it was not self-contained, I would have given up on that show already. just started it i do not know i'm on episode two yeah really yeah we're gonna find out well if i if i knew it was not self-contained i would have given up on that show already i'm not trying to

live with more heartache well you know one season i can do it i can put it to bed and i will say actually i think one of our listeners or someone who used to listen to us actually wrote on the show oh well that's sad i'm sorry you person i'm sorry person yeah well that was part of why i wanted to watch it i thought that was really exciting but okay i will i will continue it did like consider it because it did look fun such a bummer there's so many things i don't know i go on the screen all the time of like of all the things that get cancelled. I'm sad. And I think that he could really pull off the role from what I've seen of him so far and what I've seen in interviews and I've kind of looked him up. I will say I am a little disappointed that there's not more of the Dornish influence

in some of these Targaryens that we're going to meet. And hopefully they do get made up and hopefully they keep honest to the hair color for some of them. You have Daeron who is a sandy blonde brown hair. He's got that kind of sandy colored hair. You have some of our Targaryen rulers here that have the Dornish look to them and have the Dornish hair color. And I think that if any of the shows were going to introduce that, hopefully it could be this one. I understand why House of the Dragon,

we didn't give Rhaenys the black hair. I get it. For a general audience, like, I really do understand it. But I just hope we can evolve in the world of Westeros on screen to maybe trust the audiences to still understand. Yeah. Did they not do that? I mean, we'll get there, I guess, with Baelor Breakspear. But next we have Daniel Ings and Ki. Ki will be playing, interestingly, speaking of dark-haired Targaryens, Trelinal, the Laughing Storm, Baratheon. I mean, the Baratheons are an offshoot, like, potentially bastard Targaryen house. Absolutely.

And, again, interested to see, especially because now we have an Aegon's Conquest story in the works, too, from Matt Tomlinson and co. So I'm curious to see what kind of Baratheon stuff gets put in with The Laughing Storm and how much they focus on that because that has to be something in an overarching way that people are looking at, right, in storytelling of we're introducing these characters. How is it going to have that ripple effect on the other stories that might come into this world of Westeros on screen to us? Well, not even just that, like, if they continue the story past the three published novellas, Lionel does come back, right, in regards to the engagement with some of Egg's children. Eggs. Children. I could see them going beyond. I'm not going to place bets on what gets finished first of the stories that are out there right now

that George has running around in his head and his fingers on his word star, but I could see them continuing on because the ink is kind of dry on history and what happens with Egg's story. Interestingly enough, this is yet another story where the main Targaryen ruler may or may not be doing some things with or without dragons

and maybe go out at the end and maybe not be seen as a moralistic character when they do so. and it'll be really interesting because he's we're starting out with him as a child and i guess this kid playing egg is gonna get quite a few roles but are we gonna do like you know huge time jump later on or something so and he's gonna have to be recast but then again depending on how long this goes he's probably gonna grow too i mean

depending on how well we'll find out we'll discuss this kid's age but like you know depending on how old he could become old enough like look at what happened with uh all those stark children yeah that's true depending on how they condense the timeline right hot d changes the pacing and timeline to fit a little better for storytelling on a screen and maybe they'll do similarly right maybe they'll do something similar and condense some things but really we can't really cast those kind of aspersions because who the fuck knows it's a child actor he could be great today horrible tomorrow not his fault you know that's just the way the world crumbles we also just like you know you don't really know what's gonna happen to you

when you grow up you don't know what you're gonna be like in terms i don't know what i want to do tomorrow yeah or like i have a i have a friend who she was i think i've told you this story she was like the tallest girl in her like fifth grade class and then by like freshman year of high school she was the shortest girl and she just stayed that way she just stayed that high wow so just evened out yeah so daniel ings back to him real quick before we talk about dexter soul ansel daniel ings he's been in a bunch of stuff that i'm not familiar with very intimately but i know right i haven't watched the crown he He played Mike Parker in The Crown. I hate Susie. He plays Cobb in that. I've heard great things about that. Have not watched it. Maybe this is a sign. Sex Education. He plays Dan in Sex Education. So great big resume of stuff

that I'm just not intimately familiar with. I look forward to it, though. He has the Baratheon look to him, you know, facially. I could see them really put him in some Stormland doublet, surcoat, whatever, and really make him shine. Absolutely. So we'll see what happens. I haven't seen, I've seen Sex Education, but I haven't watched it closely. So I don't remember what happened. Sorry, y'all. Very embarrassing for me let's talk about one of the stars of our show dexter soul ansel as you said who will be playing prince agan egg targaryen degster dexter soul ansel was in the ballad of songbirds and snakes the hunger games prequel movie that came out in the last year.

Highly recommend it. Recommend the book if you haven't read it. He is in the very first scene of the entire movie, so you can't miss him. He does a great job. Really sold it. He played young Coriolanus Snow. Actually, not surprised they included it, but was really happy they included it overall the scene he was in so really important role pivotal role and i'm gonna be honest i think he does have

a great big career coming for him in his youth whether or not he chooses to pursue it post-youth uh he's got a lot of great opportunities kids gonna have a lot of roles he's gonna have his college paid for man if he chooses to do so, you know. As you said, like, anything can really happen with child actors. They could choose a whole other calling. Yeah. And he went through with the whole thing. He shaved his head. All of it.

Hair grows back. My god. Wait a second. Wait, what? Let's talk about Sam Spruill his father prince mekar targaryen do you think it's gonna be my car or mekar oh i don't know oh well i guess they say egon right so would it be mekar mekar maybe yeah i'm guessing it's gonna be the exact opposite way that i hear it you know what i mean i'm thinking of all the names daenerys yeah they don't say daenerys well do they say makar makar me not makar meeker like beaker like beaker

yeah i guess i read it as maycar i read it as like maycar but i read it as maycar i mean because like maycar but it is maycar because i think of the ae as an a sound but i guess in the british you know accent is it like me egg like my car maycar oh maycar they do say amen right but i think of like ray ray yeah and then they say agon denaris denaris reina renees renees we're just naming targaryens now and thinking about how it will translate to this name sorry everyone sam sproule was actually in Snow White and the Huntsman, which I recently watched on mute with captions off in order to get GIFs to make a GIF set on Tumblr.

So that went well. I know him from that, from not actually watching the movie, but by scrolling through the movie looking for GIFs. He was Ol' Munch in Fargo. I do know that one. He was in Legend and he was in Taken 3. I do know that one. He was in Legend, and he was in Taken 3. I did not know that.

He watched, I think, Taken 2, but not 3. Sorry, Sam Spruill. Yeah, is this the Fargo show, right? I've been meaning to watch that. That's on my list at some point in my life. But yeah, apparently Sam is known for playing villains which i think is a really interesting take on maycar now i'm just like how are they gonna say now i'm questioning my whole reality and i don't know if they're gonna like actually go the villain

route but maycar isn't you know he's not like a charismatic character so i am curious as to like what that means for the performance that he's gonna have apparently he also does pippin at some point which is a a musical that's close to my heart because once upon a time in high school when i used to do tech theater and i was head of paint and painted all the sets we did pippin and i made a bunch of quote-unquote stained glass uh tapestries it was very cool that's foss's Fosse, baby. We love Fosse. Bob Fosse. I don't remember anymore. Bob Fosse.

He's so bossy. Yeah, I think it's very interesting that he's playing Stannis Baratheon. I mean Maekar Targaryen. Yeah. And I look forward to seeing his portrayal. Yeah, I am very interested in this direction for Maekar. Yeah, it's interesting too because we're

coming into this and this is something that's going to pair with our patreon episode so well if you're a patron at patreon.com slash girls gone canon c-a-n-o-n we just put out a summer playlist episode for patrons for august of just what're playing, what we're listening to. And I'm playing a very riveting, riveting run of Crusader Kings 3, a Game of Thrones mod, where I have Targaryens in Dorne and kind of playing with all that blend of culture. And we're entering Dunk and Egg, in this show, in a world where Dorne has been brought into the fold. Makar is King Daeron II's child, the fourth son, I think, third or fourth, and Queen Miriam Martell, right?

Makar is married to a Dane. Oh my god. He's married to Diana Dane, right? Diana Dane is Aegon's mom. Oh my god. Yeah. Well, we don't, we might not get to see her, who knows, but we get a Dane. I mean, this isn't the whole cast. Well, we don't... We might not get to see her. Who knows? But we get a Dane.

I mean, this isn't the whole cast. Well, we haven't... Well, she's supposed to have died before the tourney at Ashford. But maybe we'll see her in a flashback. I don't know. What if we got a Dane flash... Aliana! We could get a Dane flashback.

We could... I Dane flashback. We could. I mean. Sorry. I had a really messed up thought regarding the Daemon dreams. And I'm just going to keep that to myself and you can all piece that together. Hmm. Oh, anyway. Okay.

Hopefully White Walls, when we get to White walls you know and blood ravens bad negative vibes doesn't give eggs some freaky dreams right i know right of that manner peter clafy yeah our other lead our other lead peter clafy this one's a harder one to recast i i assume he's just got a job solidly the next few years because you can only have so many six five people from everything i've seen of him he's perfect for this role i've seen a couple different clips of him and other things like rugby or wreck where he plays cormac or vikings valhalla uh which i believe is over as well but he's got the perfect build the perfect look for it he's very like dumb himbo sports jock stupid thick you know like i think he's gonna be perfect for this role i look forward

it's a big role though like he has to convey a lot of big role emotion and also distinguish himself as very different from the cast around him draw us to him as a small folk like like us man you know yeah and let me say you can watch him in rugby we don't mean the show called rugby we mean the sport he was a rugby player no it's a show i guess like in a way kind of yeah i like my soaps no i'm just kidding my novellas all right so let's talk about someone who doesn't have a job pass this season bernie carvell prince baylor breaks fear yeah he's a major theater actor which is exciting considering stuff that we saw in hot d we really liked this season that felt very much like a play, right?

Like it very much felt like a stage play in certain points, like in the Riverlands and I feel like parts of this will as well and that kind of comes from that tight ensemble. Yeah, he's been a theater actor in, I don't know, Matilda the Musical he's also played Jonathan Strange

in I guess the show of Jonathan Strange and Dr. Norell, which i'm pretty sure i watched this show but i don't remember it so that's all i have for you on my take for that he was the lead he's gonna have to be absolutely charismatic right like this is the character this is the fan character like when he dies that's like ned dying right like he's like the dad no of the season which is funny because he's like uncle no i guess but well because you really need to like feel sad about the what could have been because everyone's like wow he's so great what a great crown prince we have he's gonna be so good and he is married to redhead well semi-canon redhead headed queen jenna don darian i just assumed i thought you were

saying real life oh my god no in real life he has married jenna don darian but there's a lot of interesting political stuff there right like i hope that gets brought into the fold too you look at he marries jenna don darian being part dornish that's kind of a big deal considering the don darians are some of the marcher lords that kind of occupy that space that is often back and forth fought over between is it dorn's space is it the stormland space do they have the right to live there or exist in that place and occupy the place they live so i don't know there's a lot going on there that like he is very much has this marriage that is a brokering of peace in a way right symbolic of who he is as well and he's a character that in some aspects really comes through for dunk

and then in other aspects dies in other aspects. Could have really come through for the realm, too. And yeah, yeah, yeah. That day we lost a good motherfucker. Yeah. People who do not come through for the realm. Prince Arian, Bright Flame Targaryen. Yo, I am obsessed that Finn Bennett is in this. He is going to be amazing.

I've only seen him, think in true detective night country which i still need to finish which uh i i was actually really enjoying and he plays a guy with a completely different vibe from what i imagine arian bright flame is having so excited for him to show off you know the range of his skill and i do think he has the range i really do after seeing him in true detective yeah did you finish the seat i haven't finished it yet not yet but i got thrown off you know i'm this is gonna sound so dumb when i say this i got thrown off by the super bowl because they actually they actually moved an episode up which is great and then we just kind of stalled out it's just kind of like a wintry show which

is very fun about it but yeah i do i am saving a lot of my like super watching and finishing of things for fall winter i think that's like the perfect season for them that's true for this one especially but i think also was it just because it was i knew for sure those last few episodes were going to be when it got real scary. So am I just a coward? Unsure. That's not fair to say about yourself. Yeah, I mean, I think

we'll see what happens when the time comes. Sean Thomas is playing Sir Raymond the Reluctant Fossoway. He, I believe he was in Peregrine's Home for Peculiar Children, actually. I might have seen him in, but I don't know him otherwise. He was, and also in something called Ladhood.

It's a fun name. I just like the name. Yeah, pretty much. That's what I have for you. And then Sir Stephen Fossoway, the other side of the apple. We have Edward Ashley. And he's in Masters of the apple we have edward ashley and he's in masters of the air which i don't watch but my partner watches and again that's all i have for you for this i'm so sorry beautiful then we have danny webb who's sir arlen of penny tree and i mean

pretty big deal he's a hedge knight and dunks mentor we don't get to see him that that much so pretty great that we so that means we are going to get some sort of flashbacks. And he's in Doctor Who episodes. And I will just let Chloe talk about that. I have no comment to you on that one. Yeah, I, I think he has to make a really big impact. And he's a great actor he was in season two or sorry series two of new who in it's a david tennant episode when rose was his companion impossible planet satan pit it's a two-parter the ood two-parter basically from season two for those of you that have seen series two of new doctor who in david tennant's series those of you uh but not necessarily my favorite two-parter i'm gonna

be honest with you i really love the ouds but this one maybe i should revisit it maybe i would like it i probably haven't watched it in like half a decade or some shit who knows but i remember him and he's great he like has this really actually he does what he does best hopefully if he has this role which is he goes out on like this big moment and has all this like sacrificial you know he had the heart at the mid end of the episode he of the two-parter he was very much like the heart of it in some ways he sacrifices himself to help people basically so i think uh arlen might not necessarily do that so much but but in a way he does, right? Like his death is the sacrifice for the story to move on and for Dunk to go be brave. And everything that he taught him was, you know, to be a good knight, no matter your status, to protect the weak, protect the innocent, stand up for what's good and right in the world.

And Dunk takes that, especially for this first novel, and applies that perfectly. his first novel and applies that perfectly. Now the other two, right, of the novellas kind of get, they stray a little and they start to get those shades of gray that Dunk has to navigate in that world. And Arlen really is part of that still too, right? Like the whole worldview that Arlen supplies to him has to apply and be broken down throughout the entire story. Yeah. And I kind of wonder, like, what does that mean in terms of flashbacks? Will we see him come back every now and then throughout the entire series as well? Or even, like, this idea of, I don't know, I made this up.

Like, would we see Dunk talking to him in his head or something like that? Or, like, as a ghost, hanging over the story and every now and then he's like, oh god, I'm lying, there's Sir Arlen's ghost or something or something you know i see it kind of like a terence malick movie so like terence malick is an incredible filmmaker badlands days of heaven uh thin red line new world so many good ones a hidden life so many great movies highly recommend him but he has this thing where a character can be introducing or talking and you'll have like these gorgeous shots of nature like really specific and focused like you'll be in a fucking field and

there'll be some barley or some straw that their hands are like touching over and they'll be southern drawl and they'll be like my daddy used to say when we were small that the world was too big and it would eat us whole and da da da da and like just like some shit would be saying uh that someone will be narrating like that and every time that i would well that i walk in and my roommate is watching a terrence malick movie or any movie that looks terrence malicky i tend to make a joke and start to narrate like that so i think that's what we might get right like we could even get some narrations like even from dunk remembering him later on right like sir arlen used to say

if i do this and dot dot dot like i see it i see it i really think that you're onto something it's gonna be malik as fuck and then a ghost of like sir arlen being like well i don't say it like that you know that would be very funny it could be interesting there's a lot of i'm curious what they'll do tone is kind of interesting on this yeah yeah tom von lawler is playing the steward of ashford plumber we've already seen him in that little mini preview i think where he dunk is asking for admittance to being in the tourney. May not have a huge, huge role, but he gets to play a mini-villain, right? Yeah, which is interesting.

He's apparently in some of the Avengers movies. Huh. Who is he? Do we know what he plays? He plays Ebony Maw, apparently, in Infinity War and Endgame. So I was like, wow, that's a pretty big deal. Yeah, one of the bad guys with Thanos. That's a pretty big deal.

What's really weird, the only way I know how to describe the look of Ebony Maw is Ebony Maw kind of looks like a droid from Star Wars, but, like, fleshy. Okay. That's how I'll describe that to you. Yeah. All right. I think I can see that based on this illustration. Yep.

Fleshier, alien style. More alien than the droid, believe it or not. Huh. Next we have Yusef Kerkor, who is playing Steely Pate, a character that I love in the Hedge Knight, in the Dunk and Egg novels. And I just have your- Steely Pate! I just have Steely Pate in all caps because i'm just like steely

paint he was apparently in the house of gucci which one day we will watch did you already watch it i forgot not yet i'm waiting but i know we've discussed it i tried starting it on the plane once and then i think i fell asleep not because of the movie but just because of the plane uh he was also in joaquin phoenix's napoleon and also in another george rr martin cinematic adaptation he was in night flyers which i decided might be too scary for me so i haven't watched it yet but i really am excited to see him play steely pate right because the description we get of steely pate in the books because steely pate is a blacksmith from the reach yeah and he's a short man with big hands and a thick chest and he's covered in coarse black hair and a big thick

black beard uh and i think that it's awesome that they've cast yusuf kirkore in this i love that they did because he has this quote here in his Wikipedia article from when he was cast as Sami Ibrahim, a Syrian asylum seeker in the show Home. He goes, I spent my life playing terrorists. That's my USP. That's why I grew my beard. I'm a very big guy. I speak Arabic, so a big bearded Arabic man. There's really one kind of part traditionally. Playing Sami is the first time somebody has taken the chance and given me something more and i like that you know that's what they're doing with this steely pate character yeah absolutely and he also has been in a bunch of doctor who stuff

as you know when you have about 30 actors in the uk you just just use them in everything. So no, I'm just kidding. But he actually did some voice acting in some first Doctor Adventures in the podcast because Doctor Who has like a very big, like their universe and cinematic universe, like they have podcasts. Eliana, I don't know if you understand or know this, so I'm just telling you. Do I understand podcasts?

But they have not just podcasts podcasts but they have not just podcasts but they have serials as well so they do like radio shows and they have stories fictional stories and they do actual serials there's like a whole thing called big finish there's a bunch of stuff so he has done some voices on the doctor who podcast and there's torchwood which is a spinoff from doctor who of characters that torchwood is like basically like an alien government fighting unit that they sometimes see in the show and so they spun off some characters from that and he's in a couple

episodes of that as well so I do recognize him from that he also was in an episode of Sex Education so again like I said the 30 actors they have very cool I guess yeah everyone was in doctor who at some point then we have also um next sir manfred don darien you were talking about some don darien we got

daniel monks he's also a screenwriter interestingly oh interesting that's cool yeah he uh we don't really know his relation to jenna might just be a cousin or something yeah true but interesting interesting um i think she's probably gonna be a cousin or something yeah true but interesting interesting um I think she's probably gonna be a bigger role or I assume so I don't know Tansen Crawford like she's playing Tanzel Tanzel too tall who is just like I think pivotal to the story and yes this would basically be her breakout role she's 5'11 yeah I'm so excited for her being 5'11". Good for her. Like, it's what she deserves. Everyone should be that tall, in my opinion. And I'm glad everyone isn't. It makes those of us that are almost there, you know, really awesome. role she's the girl in the cast congratulations the chick character from duncan egg it is a little bit of a sausage best of the story right to start like there will be some women but not that many and so she really has to hold her own and i'm really curious to see i don't know not just as

one of the only female characters but also with Dorne being brought into the fold and with how Arian treats her character, how are they going to portray some of that? And will they have the treatment of the Dornish being that undercurrent of the story, right, of the themes we're going to see? I'm curious I'm curious what they're going to draw together here and how Dorne's actually going to be brought into the fold on screen because I feel like like you said there may be some some flashbacking or we're going to maybe start the story before it starts for us in this in the actual novella right like maybe we back it up like episode one might be a little bit before the story actually starts and will that be the same for Tanzel will we get to see her traveling with her troop will we get to see a little bit of her pov yeah and i mean she's been in other stuff before right she's been like apple tv's servant and tiny beautiful things but i feel like this is going to be you know the role that puts her name on the map and i'm sorry i'm looking at her and like no wonder she just lives in Dunk's head, like, rent-free the rest of the whole series.

I mean, maybe it's old Nan. We don't know. Yeah. Hot as hell. Good for her. Yeah, that's why I'm like, no wonder he does not let that go. Good for Tansen. I look forward to her role, I think a lot on her shoulders, though. Damn. A lot of people die for Arian being mean to her.

Yeah. We're gonna get puppets! We'll discuss this later in what we're hoping to see adapted. Sorry. I got excited about puppets for two seconds. We got one more person left on our confirmed cast list. Yeah, it's just a Tyrell, though. I'm just kidding.

I'm just kidding. Oh, my God. Steve Wall is playing Lord Leo Longthorn Tyrell, the Lord of Highgarden. And, you know, I'm not too proud to admit that in my head, maybe I've always thought it was Longhorn and not Longthorn and never questioned why Longthorn makes way more sense. And I'm gonna say that out loud right now for you all. I think I might feel the same way. I've just never internalized it until you said it just then and I looked at this and I was like, she's right. Maybe I was thinking about the restaurant Longhorn. Unsure. Am I hungry? Yeah, steakhouse. Exactly, literally. the steakhouse chain am i hungry anyways so yeah he's actually been in quite a few i think roles that are very adjacent to being in something

like a night of the seven kingdoms right he's been in vikings and the witcher and this is not like a historical like or historical medieval fantasy, whatever, but Raised by Wolves. Yeah, I watched two episodes of that. I haven't seen it yet, but I've gotten lots of recommendations for it. I remember someone I interviewed with, and then I turned that job down, told me to go watch that show. You know, it seems good. It's not for me. It's not something that grabbed me, but it definitely grabbed my roommate he was into it so

okay i hope he reads it or watches it i mean sorry i think i confuse it with station 11 because i think they came out at around similar time very similar time and they seem similar to me too yep okay so it's not in my head the environments are very different though like i know for a fact that i watched like two episodes of this and just couldn't get into it personally there's a lot of things in my head that i can and then i look and i really think about and i'm like these are completely different things all right eliana there are some really obvious things that we're excited to see adapted in this story like puppets but what else are we hoping to see adapted right like

obviously the classic scenes i'm really can't wait to see how they do tansell's puppetry yeah and i think it could just be so beautiful and well focused on in such a magical moment that like the entire audience is encapsulated in watching it and watching the magic of the puppetry and arian coming in is such like a shell shock right like they have to really get that they have to it's also just like i think really interesting in regards to the ideas of like story the power of stories propaganda because he's like this is propaganda it's like is it and then also you know uh you were talking about doran and i would be really interested in seeing a little bit more about uh the tensions

with Dorne because I mean they're they're new right to the seven kingdoms at this point and there's there's a lot of yeah political tension there they haven't been brought into the fold in the prequel we already have so they have to answer some questions right like there is going to be a little bit of how do we get the audience to understand that Dorne has just been brought into the fold in one generation and like they married into the royals and there's still tension and there's still kind of an undercurrent of anger in both directions and how do we show that and how do we show that smoothly in a way that makes sense for the story progression and they do we show that and how do we show that smoothly in a way that makes sense for the story progression and they do have to do that kind of because when you read

duncan egg yeah you can read it without having read a swath but you won't understand everything and you have like the tension of like as you were talking about right like they were just brought into the fold partially because of this royal marriage which was not i mean how popular was it right there was a there was a whole war fought against that specific royal family from another part of the royal family which i think really interesting yeah also i just want to see cool tents that's something that i remember us talking about yeah the silk pavilions they sound so amazing the coachella uh you know if you hold out till the the sixth or seventh season they call that one Burning Man. Oh, shit's going down at Burning Man, apparently.

Yeah, I've heard that, too. A-swath Burning Man, though. A-swath Burning Man. Yeah, yeah. Darren, the Dreamer. I look forward to that. Now that we have dragon dreams in the story on TV, canonically, I look forward to seeing what they do with that in a whole other universe

of how they bring his dragon dreams in. And I personally love him meeting Dunk before Dunk meets Egg. Before Dunk meets Egg, a new rom-com coming to you. I enjoy how he meets Darren and then how Darren's prophecy unfolds throughout the novellas. even just this one but specifically applicable to this one and then still kind of

applicable to the entire overarching story really looking forward to that and looking forward to how they use darren in that way and i don't know i love darren very much. You know, I have a very soft spot for an older fail son, especially a fail son heir. Oh my god. But a fail son who has to drink himself to sleep pretty much to get rid of the horrible pain of life and living. I'm into that. I'm very into that. So excited to see him on a screen, man. Indeed, indeed. And I mean, what you're saying about like the whole dreamers thing is pretty interesting too, of like establishing that because we've got that coming back around a little bit in the mystery night as well. Yes. And Bloodraven, right?

Are we going to see the same actor as Bloodraven that we saw in Hot D? I was thinking maybe. Yeah, I think we were like does that man have a job is he employed sir are you employed i hope he is because i do think i think we have to get some scenes of king's landing like i think they need to give some context here and there not like a constant but it does feel like maybe they will yeah but also like do we even know like we just saw that man's face. Is he a good actor? Unsure.

Does he act? I don't know. Unsure. Or is he just... I follow him on Twitter now. A Targaryen face model. Unsure. Right, exactly. Which, they had that for the Daenerys actress, right?

So, who knows? Who knows? I guess a Targaryen back model, in that case. It's a back... I mean, yeah, she doesn't have to act. She's just gotta have a back i mean yeah she doesn't have to act she's just gotta just gotta have a back anyone could do it i look forward to tansell too tall the smoocharoo gotta love that i want a little romance i want dunks dumbass getting smooched yeah the entire trial by seven has to be

epic to quote a great blockbuster film released earlier this year the question is do you have it in you to make you to make it epic right it's from Furiosa if you haven't seen it that's on you make it epic you know and that battle has to be epic I mean when Dunk thunders and roars above the crowd oh man come on come on Peter Claffey you got to get that you gotta you gotta roar it out buddy I'm excited for that I bet he can roar I mean you gotta right? And rugby seems like a spirited game. I don't think you can get hired for this role without being able to do that line. You know, I think they probably made him do it. Let's be real. Oh yeah, that's true. Good point.

Yeah. It's a huge moment. It's all building up to that. Also, yeah, I guess I'm also looking forward to, like, as I said earlier, I'm looking forward to the direction they're going to take with Makar, just because of this casting. What does it mean? It means the Stannis we deserve. Oh my god. Stannis.

Stannis. Okay, my final exciting thing to look forward to is probably the Fossaway knighting also. That is a really emotional beat in my opinion that gets me a little teary-eyed you know the green versus red apple happening the beginning of that like him choosing that he's going to do this thing and be on the side of justice it's such a pivotal like sweet moment and I don't know it means something right like

it fucking means something that they're like fuck we're one down and we have like the last quarter to go what do we do like is all this sacrifice worth it and he's like I'll do it knight me throw me in coach I'm also excited even though like it does end with the death of Valor Breaks Fear I think that there's something not that the books aren't optimistic but there's just something I think really charming and a little purer if you will about about the A Night of the Seven Kingdoms story so I'm kind of like interested

in something that's just going to have a different tone to the rest of the adaptations we've gotten so far we've talked a little bit in the past about in passing how it's very chaucer inspired right very much a knight's tale uh the boys are back yeah i'm excited for them to bring back the boys are back in town um as a song oh my god i hope so a bard better be

playing that shit on the looter else i'm out out. They could go like Westworld, the way Westworld would do modern songs. Yes, get Ramin on that. He's ready. He's done it before. He'll do it again. The other Chaucer-inspired work that it kind of reminds me of, though, is not just his Canterbury Tales,

but also his other poems like Love Visions, which was inspired by dreams and basically they're woven into allegories about rituals and emotions of courtly love and we do get a lot of that with dunk right like the plot for dunk is that like he doesn't realize it but he's a tale in the making right his entire story is being written it's being written though the ink is being written in front of us and like as he goes in this for example there are four poems or four books i should call them the book of the duchess which is very traditional a dreamer meets a widower who's

loved and lost the perfect lady and then there's the house of fame which describes a dream journey and where the poet meets classical divinities so it's like dunk's adventure like in a way he's like small folk odysseus in this with no lady no wife like every everywhere he goes he's meeting a wife instead but he has that like kind of journey from place to place and he leaves behind and i don't know it's gonna be really interesting to watch in that light tone like you're saying like i think that because of the limited series aspect it sounds like it'll be like a six episode or eight episode tops season yeah but i don't know that keeps it uh very tight and it helps keep it timeless and helps keep it i don't know i think it

could be very special to be kept in those kind of limits, because that's what's great about Dunkin' Egg is at the end of the day, it ends, right? Like every single story ends, and then you start up again, and you have to find yourself in the middle of it and terrible and if he doesn't finish it then i don't have to think about that and every day i can wake up and think i wonder what adventures duncan egger having today but maybe we do want it maybe we want it even more than the winds of winter take your time on winds george George. Good reverse psychology. We're trying. We're trying. Reverse psychology. Well, until this show comes out, I think that's all we have for now. I mean, we could, we'll probably eventually do another take of the Hedge Knight.

Older, soberer. Wow. I don't know what you're talking about. I'm younger than I've ever been. Oh, that's true. So true. Thanks for listening. We look forward to being back next week with Unleash the D and being back in September, later on in September, with Aeswaf.

Oh, my God. I don't even know how to think about Aeswaf, but excited to have our guests to bring us back into the fold of things. And then being back in 2025 with A Night of the Seven Kingdoms. Yes, indeed. Well, as always, you can find us online.

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Remember? Did they name them? Not yet, but they will. I do think it is part of the heart of the story. Anyways, yes. Sorry. We're ending this episode now. And we're done. As always, I've been one of your hosts, Chloe. And I've been another one of your hosts, Eliana.

I kind of forgot when I said that. Sweet foot. Bye.