Girls Gotta Eat - A Wild Journey Through Sex, Divorce, and Glowing Up with Comedian Jiaoying Summers

Episode Date: March 31, 2025

Strap in for an unfiltered (and inspirational) journey with the hilarious Jiaoying Summers. She takes us through growing up in China with an overprotective mother, to then coming to the US and finding love with someone whose family didn't approve of her, breaking up, and then marrying a controlling man who she had children with. She takes us through that divorce and what she had to do to break away and bring her kids to the US with no money and a desire to pursue standup comedy. We discuss her sex life with her current partner (and he makes a cameo), her current relationship with her mom, the huge celebs who are fans of HER, how she got confident later in life, being a role model to her kids, and so much more. And then we answer some "Is this weird?" listener submissions about eating ass and cheating. Before Jiaoying joins us, we discuss the appropriate length of voice notes, Ashley's recent beef with her fiancé/roommate, and a story about Rayna in Austin we've been gatekeeping. Enjoy! Follow Jiaoying on Instagram @jiaoyingsummers, listen to her podcast Tiger Mom, and check out her website for tour dates. Follow us on Instagram @girlsgottaeatpodcast, Ashley @ashhess, and Rayna @rayna.greenberg. Visit girlsgottaeat.com for more. Thank you to our partners this week: Booking.com: Win $1000 of Booking.com travel credit by entering their sweepstakes on Instagram @bookingcom. FX's Dying for Sex: Stream all episodes on Hulu starting April 4. Tonal: Get $200 off your purchase at https://tonal.com with code GGE. Cymbioktika: Get 20% and free shipping at https://cymbiotika.com/girlsgottaeat. Quince: Get free shipping and 365-day returns on your next order at https://quince.com/GGE. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

She goes, I always tell you it's not possible for you to get uglier, but there is possibilities. If you touch yourself, you will get uglier. Yeah. She said everything is possible. This podcast is a Dear Media production. Hi guys. Hi guys.

Welcome back to another episode of Girls Gotta Eat. Welcome back. I like how we always know to match. Are we matching? Yeah, black and gene and white. I can't tell this is black or navy. You ever bring it over to the window? No, you've got to put it up against something.

that's that color. I know. But yeah, we're similar vibes. Now I don't know if it's blue. Exactly. Well, you're wearing blue too. No, I'm not. Oh, Gene. I'm not wearing navy. No, I'm not. I'm just wearing all blue. I'm having the best day. I started the morning with like hours of voice notes for my friends. It's my morning podcast. What a perfect way to start the day's a morning routine. It was amazing. I, I, chat GPTed my therapy this morning. I was like, let me just see what chat cheap T will say. I wrote out this like, I sent it to you and sparkly this very long explanation of this situation I'm in and they're like, in a shit.

No, they were kind of like snarky. They were like right back, take care. I know. I was like, okay. And then I was like, does take care feel a little passive aggressive? And they're like, yes, here's four other options that are less passive aggressive. You got to get on Google Gemini. I will.

Because you're a Gemini. Yeah, I will. Either all the same, right? I don't know. But I've been, I've been Google gemini. You have? Yeah. Okay.

I'm already there. Yeah. I'm already in Google. I'm already in it. But yeah, I just, what's the max voice note you'll listen to? Not for me, because you and I are together every day. We send 500 voice notes, but like, what do you enjoy? Well, I really don't want minutes of rambling.

Like, if you have a story to tell, okay, I'll strap in for six. Okay. Have you gotten like a nine minute one? Who was it? Melanie. So here's why I would never send one that long. Because I am so scared it's going to time out. I have had voice notes.

It's just technology, whatever, melting. down. I don't know why. I've had like minutes of premium content and then it gets lost. It doesn't go through. So when I'm feeling that I'm in a three to four minute range and I have more to say, I will send it and be like BRB part two coming to be continued. I get nervous. I do too. Because I'm like, this is so good. What if we lose it? I'm just, and I can't recreate it. Well, a friend of mine because I posted that Emily had sent me like a six minute voice note and I love it so much. And somebody responded to me like you can listen to these on like double time

and I was like I don't want to. I have marinate in it. Yeah, you have to have all their tone and and I'm a storyteller. Filler words. Right. I don't want to be interrupted. I want to get the whole thing out.

Yeah. I was on the phone with a girlfriend the other end. She just kept interrupting me to the point that I had to be like, can you let me finish? Just let me finish. Wow. Are you still friends? Yeah.

Let me finish. Okay. Let's talk about our partners. All right. Booking.com. We have a sweepstakes for you guys. win $1,000 of booking.com travel credit by entering their sweepstakes on Instagram and their handle is at bookingcom. And FX's Dying for Sex stream all episodes on Hulu starting on April 4th.

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I'll respond to this email and I'm going to take care of this. I'm like, ew, what you're doing? A babysitter now. I get up earlier. It's crazy. So something happened this morning that my current fiancee will not, that he will not let go. So I just, I want to preface this by saying like, I love birds. I love the sound of birds.

Like, I'm a bird lover. Not everybody is. People like I hate birds. Your mom. They're not real. Your mom's into birds too. A family of bird lovers. Yeah, so I just want to start with that.

But this bird this morning, like 5 a.m., like still dark out, was chirping at such a high pitch outside my bedroom window. Like, it was like jarring. It sounded like when the smoke alarm battery is like, is dying. That like chirp sound. I was like, it woke me up. I'm like, is that bird in the room? You have a lot of those black crows over by you. Yes.

And like I'm kind of getting used to the crows. It was a different bird. I've never heard of high pitch. quite like this. So I'm like, what the fuck? This has to stop. It wouldn't stop. I was like, I'm trying to sleep here. So what am I going to do? And I have a balcony off my bedroom. And I was like, I went out there. Five a.m. I was like, it's in a tree nearby. It's got to be one of these trees. It's dark out. I can't see it. All my contacts in, whatever. So I just went and like got a glass of water and like threw it in the tree. Okay.

5 a.m. Did it stop? It's like, yes, it stopped. And my fiance was kind of in and out of sleep, but he was like, what did you just do? And so I was like, well, I fixed the problem, didn't I? And we went back to sleep. And then this morning when we woke up at like 8 a.m.

He's been calling me bird killer all day. He didn't kill a bird. I didn't shoot it. I would be so mad at you because I would have to wake up and make fun of you and giggle for hours. He has not stopped. I wouldn't go back to sleep. After that.

Like, I woke up and I started telling him something else about the Alice and Olivia, family and friends sale. And he's literally smirking. And I'm like, say what you want to say. Say, bring up the bird again. Bring the fucking bird up again. He will not stop. He's acting.

I don't know if you, you didn't watch friends as much. But there's an episode of friends where Phoebe is dating this cop. It's actually Michael Rapaport. I remember the cop. And he shoots the bird. I thought you were going to tell me that you shot it with like a sling. He's treating me like I did. I'm like, I just tossed some water into the tree.

Like I couldn't deal with this bird. He can go find another tree. You're just like a grumpy dad. You know? Like, what's that bird out there? It's really funny. Like, I just, in old boxer shorts, you're just tossing water. What would you have done?

I don't know, slept through it. We had a bird problem in Austin, and it was a nonstop high-pitched hum. Hundreds of birds at all times. There's so many birds in Texas. Like, they will just congregate. Like, that one time when we stayed in Dallas, I was like, is this a, it's a, This alley is full of birds outside our hotel window. But I can deal with birds.

Something about, it was like, literally I was like, is the smoke alarm dying or is that a bird? Literally, that was my first thought. I don't know. A chirp to end all chirps. I'm laughing that you, like, filled up a cup and went out on the balcony. Also, how far are the trees from your front? You've reached the tree? That balcony off my bedroom, my Romeo and Juliet balcony, is kind of wraps all the way around.

It's pretty close to the trees that the bird wasn't. I think it's just a Juliet balcony. I don't think it's a Romeo and Juliet balcony. It's not a Juliet balcony. I say Romeo and Juliet, just forget it. Because you guys are so above. Juliet balcony is like just small and tiny.

This is a wrap around. It's nice. Oh, it's a real balcony. Yeah, have you ever seen it? Well, Juliet balcony is like tiny. Yeah, you can put your feet on it. Right, right. But I just had like one more anecdote to tell you about like living with him.

It's been what two months. Yeah. Okay. So I really do like love it so much. It's better than I could have ever imagine. and I just feel like I love him more every day. Like yesterday was truly like the best day after he picked me up. He picked me up at work and he was actually off work.

So we went and picked up plants. We took a little to the beach. We came back to the house. We had sex on the kitchen counter. And then I went upstairs to change and pee. I come back downstairs. He had made me a snack, hummus and crackers. Can I come live with you guys?

Do you guys want to adopt me? Is this heaven? Like, have I died? Like it's so, I just love it. Both of us were like, what a fun day we had? Just random stuff. We order tacos. Like, I just, and a lot of days are like that.

And we haven't had any issues except one. So. You killed that bird. Except when I killed the bird. So things have been rocky. You found out that you have a gun in the house. It's been rocky since this morning when I tased this bird. I pepper sprayed this bird.

That's how you found out there was a gun in the house. I got my pepper sprayed it. You come in, your eyes are all red. So I have like my fancy pans. We have like a lot of fancy cookware. Pants. Oh, okay. Pants.

Pants. Not pants. Pants. Cookware. Okay. And I was making eggs right after we got back from Austin. So he'd been alone all weekend in the house and I was making eggs that Monday morning. And I'm like, what is going on with my pan?

These are amazing non-stick pans. The eggs are sticking to them. I can't even scrape the eggs off. Like these pans are fucked. What happened here? So I'm like, what did he do to my fucking pans? Why do I look in the sink? Steel wool?

No. He took a steel. wool thing. To non-stick paint. To both of them. Has he been in a home before? Where did you get this? This is still steel wool.

Why are they selling this? Oh, you didn't even buy that? No. We were out of town in Austin, which we're about to tell the story from Austin that we've been gatekeeping. These two guys are just standing outside the studio, just getting a free podcast episode. Sorry. Come on in, guys. Way in on this.

He went and bought a three pack of steel wool, which I threw out promptly and took it to my nice expensive non-stick pans. Ruined them with one walk. They're both ruined. That's psychotic. We've specifically bought these pants because they're non-stick. We've been talking about them for years. They're perfect.

Who buys steel wool? What are you cleaning? What are you doing? And I was like, we weren't going to register. Now we're registering for exactly two pants. The two pants you ruined it. Everyone's going to know about. That's your registering.

Two pants. He's going to put steel wool on there. Just to fuck with me. You guys are just registered at Ralph's. grocery store. And then he was like, oh, but I've, I've been doing this. And I'm like, yeah, okay, so the reason why you have to do this is because that's the only way that that will clean the pans that you've ruined from using the steel wool. Anyway, if you guys don't know, don't, honestly, don't use steel wool. It's just going to scratch everything, but it will take that nonstick right off.

Don't let a man in your house. I know. So that's the one thing he's done. And gave you the flu. And gave me the flu. You're sick for two. You know, this is over. I love him so much. I do, though. He's just the best. And then he's, he, He was like, oh, sorry, I ruined your free pans. Because he knows they came from a brand partner. That's not the point. You cheap ass bitch. They are expensive.

That is the Trump card though. He's like, oh, I ruined a free thing. Oh, poor me. He's like, so I could just buy new ones for you to, I didn't cost you any money. Is that what you're saying? We're registered for those two fucking pants. Not even the whole set, just the two he ruined. Oh, my God.

So, yes, that's like kind of, those are the things I feel like we're roasting. each other about in the home is me with the pans and now me with killing that part. You know, it's like a new frontier for me because like I've had you all to myself for seven years. Like I send you voice notes at night and I know that no one else is listening. So like now when I send them to you, I know that two people are listening. And there's honestly like nothing I say to you that I care if he hears like I'm just living free. What do I care? And him and I are buddies. So I just don't care. Well, but I would want you to say like listen to this alone. Yeah. I'm not trying to spread your business. I feel like I know which ones he can be in the room for.

He's not always listening. I just mostly assume when I send you funny anecdotes, date stories, things like that that he is in the room. Yeah, I know, he's my bud. And yeah, I would at this point just tell you, like, don't listen to this around him. Yeah. And I mostly like that with all my girlfriends. I don't care if their boyfriends listen.

Right. Because I'm a great storyteller. Exactly. You're like, they should get a front receipt to these jokes too. But it's funny because I'm sending you these, like, voice notes about, like, dates and different people, and I know he's listening. And then when you voice notes, it's like, both of you. And it's very funny to, like, have his commentary and his insights, he just sort of in the background, like yelling stuff.

And you're like, no, no, no, she shouldn't do that. That's not hot girl behavior. I gave you advice on something. Then he weighed in with the most insane thing I've ever heard. And I had to be like, babe, absolutely not. Hot girls don't do that. That's insane to say. He's not great at giving advice.

Like, I think he should advise every man ever on how to act as a man because he's the most perfect partner I could ever dream of as he doesn't feel real sometimes. but he can never give advice to women. I don't know. Like, it's weird. Like, if he would try to give advice, I'm like, that's so off base. You could never put yourself on our shoes.

You know who I like getting advice from? Not that everybody has access to this is male comedians. They're going to shoot you straight. Most of the advice is he doesn't like you, sis. No. But, like, they will shoot you. They're not like trying to sugarcoat it and make it nice for you. They're trying to write a joke about you and shoot you straight.

You're right. Exactly. They, yeah, are not gentle at all. No. Some of the best advice I've ever gotten in my life is Michael Blalstein and Trevor Wallace, who've been on the show quite a few times and they're just like, you don't like you. That is fair. Yeah.

Okay, so I want to tell this Austin story. I'm going to let you tell it. Well, you'll pick it up and decide what you want to do with it, but I'll tell how it went down. Okay. Well, I've been saying, you know, a body emotion stays in motion. So I'm just like in the zone. Exactly. Yeah, we've talked about this.

Like Raina's just on fire right now. So when we were in Austin, we left this dinner, which was really wonderful. It was with Dear Media and Nicole Miller. and it was at the proper hotel the first night we were there for South by Southwest. And we walk out and we're in these beautiful dresses. Raina looked super hot, obviously. You got so many shares on our Instagram. It's the most ever.

Yeah. Even one of our guy friends was like, I didn't know how sexy you were. Well, he was like, I've always thought you were sexy, but he was like, you look extra sexy. I've never gotten so many. Well, also, I haven't really been posting that much. So since November, I mean, whether or not you guys have noticed, I really even shared that much. And so I've recently gotten back into sharing. You came out of hibernation and titty's out.

Yeah, I did. Just looking high. People were like, look at that bod. So we're standing there. And I'm in a gown, too. You know, I thought I looked pretty good. But that's the gown that I wanted. It was a great gown.

These guys walk by. And they're just like, hey, what's up? Like this one guy kind of locked it on Raina and then his friends kind of walked ahead of him. And he kind of slowed his role. And he was like, hey, what's up? And you go, what's up with you? And I'm watching this exchange happen.

We're staying on the corner. Our Uber is on the way. Our Uber is one minute away. So they're like, what's up with you? And then he comes in physically. and puts his arm around you. And he looks at me, he's like, she's really cute, isn't she?

I was like, she is. And he was like, you want to go back inside? And you were like, okay. And then you just walked off together. I was like, see ya. Like I said to you, I was like, if I was single, I would have just thrown myself into the front of a moving vehicle. Like I would have been like, oh my God, I'm a dog.

Like to be standing there and have someone, pick your friend up and take them away and leave you there in the street? You just bailed. It was iconic. By the way, I just want to preface by saying, we were on the way home for the night. I didn't care. I know you didn't care,

but we were on the way home for the night. It was 10 p.m. And we were both going to go to our respective rooms and watch love as blind. Yeah, we're about to go home. So, like, it wasn't like 7 p.m. I was like, peace out, bitch. Yeah, the night was just going to go back to the hotel.

And you were like, the night's not over for me. It's not for me. And I was just like, bye. And he was hot. He looked like Paul Walker. He was super hot. He looked like a bad guy. He, yeah.

But that's okay. You know, sometimes you do some weird stuff in Texas. I've never seen it happen so quick. Like, it gave me whiplash. I was like, I guess I'll just get in this suburban alone. I've been practicing shambojram's little, well, I was just drunk. I was to do anything, but I was, I've been practicing shambram's tip of just like, look like sexy in your face.

Yeah, and like, sexy in your face. And I just locked eyes with him and then we both turned around and looked at each other. And I was like, it's on. And then I told my fiance and he was like, what? You just left? I'm like, relax. We're adults. I was in Austin at a major hotel.

Like he really was like, she's been kidnapped. I was like, she might have been, honestly. But she's in a public place. Like, she'll be fine. Yeah, also south by southwest. The streets were packed. You were saying you were drunk. You were not drunk, wasted incoherent.

Like I was just like buzzed silly. Don't let your friend get whisked away. Two drinks. Yeah, exactly. You were totally with it and he just snatched you up. I was like, she's an adult. Go off. So anyway, it just was like, I was just like, man, she really is on one.

I'm trying to find a partner like you have, you know? And so I've just really, really committed to it. Yeah. It's interesting. I was watching this like Taylor Tomlinson set that she was doing in her last comedy special and she's talking about being single for the last year and how like being single is not what sucks. is what sucks. You can opt out of the dating.

Dating is like this up and down roller coaster. And it's been a while since I've like juggled this many people. And it's just, it is a roller coaster of like really high highs and getting excited and telling everybody what's going on and then Lowe's and somebody kind of like goes to you or doesn't respond to you or somebody's being too much. And it's a lot of emotions to feel all at once all the time. Yeah.

And it's unstable. It's honestly not safe. It's unsafe to date. That's why I was chat with you emotionally. I'm enjoying it. The minute I stop enjoying, I won't do it anymore. Or the minute I find somebody that kind of gets there a little quicker, like I'll stop and like pull into that parking spot. Like once I get to like four or five dates with somebody, I don't know that I would keep

going on dates with, I wouldn't bring new people in the rotation. Yeah. I think that's a great rule. And just you'll gauge how you feel. Do you feel like you want to be with this person? Do you feel a sense of intimacy? It probably wouldn't feel right for you to be. going on other dates. It wouldn't. And then it just, it feels weird. You're like having all these

convert, you do like forget what you've talked to different people about. Yeah. I've only done it a couple times where I was dating multiple people at once and it just started to get weird. I think we did talk about with Trevor and Michael. Like dating multiple people at once, it's tough. And especially all of us as comedians telling stories, you know, and forgetting who you've told it to, forgetting people mixed up, you know, like, oh, yeah, didn't your brother go to? They're like, I'm an only child. You know, it's just weird. And then you drink it. And then you drink it. And I really have like taken a note. Tessa actually said that she has not been drinking on dates.

And that like Tessa goes on a bunch. Can I say that about you? You go on a bunch of dates. Tessa is a dating queen. Yeah, she really is. She hits those apps hard. And Tessa, the beach was a lot cleaner yesterday when I went. So I do want to thank you and your man for picking the beach up.

I literally was like the beach is cleaner. Tess has been at work. I saw people cleaning up on Abbott Kannie. I was like, is Tessa here? One person DM'd me. I posted yesterday and I said the beach is cleaner. I didn't reference Tessa. I'm like that's a very deep cut, you know.

But someone in the DMs was like, Tess has been on beach cleanup dates. She has not been drinking on dates and she said that she just realizes that she like forget stuff people say or thinks that she might like people more than she does. And so I have had to take a note to tap out up to two drinks. Two drinks is a lot for me. Totally moderation. I can't have that third drink.

I will just start to forget details. I have this like three hour date the other day. Yeah, you'll get slurry. I already have a list. And it's just not your best self. Like you don't need to be in that mode. you're great sober yeah you are outgoing and talkative and secure like it makes you I don't want to say a worse version that's not it's not an improvement it's not an improvement

that's a great way to put it yeah and like I had a personality drink on the way to this date the other day because it was quite a drive I wasn't driving I took an Uber and I just you know put wine in a water bottle like obviously yeah and I don't I showed up with the buzz and then he wanted to order a bottle of wine and like I was like pretty drunk by the end of this date and I like realized I like there's some serious holes and and like what I remember. And I just, I hate that feeling. Really oversharing you guys in the last couple weeks.

You're welcome. You're welcome. Yeah. All right. Let's just talk about a couple of our partners. And then we have an email that we are excited to read that we got. But we are so excited about this first partner. Rain is going to tell you about them and I'm going to sing a little song for you.

So don't fast forward. Which is funny because I agree to this and you've had to write this song and sing it. So you sign me up to write an original song. I was like, we'll do this. It won't be a big deal. Now you have to do it. Okay. So it is officially spring,

which means we'll finally be coming out of hibernation mode and traveling around the U.S. much more frequently. Whenever we are traveling in the U.S., we like to check out booking.com with their wide variety of stays. Booking.com makes it easy for you to find and book the right stays for you, no matter if you're looking for a cozy vacation home, a five-star hotel, or a cabin in the woods. Spring also marks the beginning of baseball season, which we are very excited about. I am honestly so excited for baseball season. I am too.

And it's such a core memory for me because I grew up going to baseball games. My dad, it's like his number one way to bond with me. He just bought season tickets and I always went with him. And when he comes here, I'm going to take him to a baseball game. So fun. Yeah, I haven't been to one here yet. So I'm like very excited. That's like so summer.

Well, guess what? Feels like summer. Not that song, guys. Wait for the, wait for it. It's different. Yeah, it'll be a different tone of song. All right. Well, guess what, Ashley?

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It's really going to be like jam-packed. Yeah. I'm really excited. Okay. The rights day can make you a fan of any U.S. city booked today on the booking.com site or app booking.com, booking. dot yeah. Booking.com wants to help make you a fan of any U.S. city with a chance to win $1,000 in booking.com travel credit. Head to booking.com Instagram's page at bookingcom and check out our

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I mean, I could unpack the first half and then the second half. Let's read it. You read it. Okay. So the subject line was dating a personal trainer, which caught our eye. She writes, so I'm dating my first personal trainer, and he's hands down the strongest guy I've ever met, which is honestly amazing. He can lift me up like a feather and pull off things. I didn't even think were physically possible.

What's he doing? The insane amount of protein he eats daily at Chipotle doesn't face it. me, but the fact that he doesn't drink alcohol coffee or any drugs besides mushrooms twice ever, along with being gluten-free, is very foreign to me. When I read that, I was like, oh, this is the problem. But it's really not. I mean, it's really restrictive. Yes, she says he doesn't care if I drink, but it's weird doing it alone, especially since so much of my social life revolves around bars where a lot of my friends and family work. I love that he's into the outdoors, but he's not really fan of going downtown where I live. That being said, we've had a great time when he's come down to see

live shows and it wasn't weird at all. Okay, so this isn't really an issue. She's dealing with this. We'll go back to it. Okay. Yeah. But then she says, I think all of this is just in my head, but here's the kicker. He mentioned that he's into butt stuff and I cannot fathom a reality where I try that without a hit from a bong and a shot of tequila first. To hit the bong? A bong hit. That's her popper. This is the bong hit. After he mentioned it, it's like a mental block in my head when we're having sex that I can't stop thinking about it. I know what's important to him, but I'm spiraling. I told him, him, I have never done any of that before. And the next time we were hooking up, he asked if he could lick my butthole. Immediately I said, I need time to mentally prepare for anything like that.

And it was a hard no. He gave me a goofy look, but didn't pressure me further. Could we love that? Sex with him isn't the crazy chemistry I'm used to. It feels mechanical, but it's still super early and we're still getting to know each other. I love that. She recognizes that. I think I need my heart a little more to be in it to go that far or be married. Ha ha. He is a very intentional dater for the long term and calm and easy to talk to. So how do I go about handling this? I'm 32, looking to settle down as well. Our long-term goals are aligned. He's a great guy, but I don't want to force anything if it's not realistic that this can work. I feel like it can. It's only in a few weeks, but I want to navigate this right. Help. So the problem is the sex? The butt stuff. So that's the

main problem. She enjoys his company. And it sounds like their lifestyles are different. They're pretty different. Like I guess it would depend on how old you are and like what your lifestyle's like, could you be with somebody that's so restrictive, no drugs, no alcohol, no gluten, all these like food restrictions. I think that like finding, like, finding, somebody you enjoy is really rare and everyone's going to come with baggage. And if this is not a thing that bothers you, then that's great. It would be hard for me to date somebody with a lot of food restrictions and alcohol restrictions. Yeah, it seems like she doesn't care about that.

You got to let him lick your butthole. I mean, I just think this is really like, you don't have to, but I think this is fine. Like, he's not saying to eat my ass. Totally. You know, he just wants to lick her butt. It's no big deal. It's just no big deal. He's going to be so into it.

And then I think it's going to open him up more sexually. Right. You do not have to do this. I don't want to force this on anybody. I'm just trying to ease her fears of it. That's like really not a big deal. Like him saying I need you to be in my butthole is I'm out. I'm not going to do it.

I'm not going to eat your ass. I'm just not going to do it. Just let him and also take a bong hit. Whatever you got to do. Well, she says I can't do this without a bong hit or a shot. He doesn't care if you drank. So drink. Right.

Exactly. So I just think don't be scared. Like, do you remember the first time someone licked your butthole? I was like, oh, that's new and just let it happen. I just, I'm like, what do I care? What do I care? I'm not, that back there is none of my business. Right.

What are you doing for that hole? What do I care? I don't care. And she's saying, like, I don't like this accent. It feels kind of mechanical. And what I would say back to that is like, maybe he pitched you an idea of something that he really liked and you kind of shot it down. Not in a way of like, that's disgusting.

But you were like, I'm not into that. And he was like, okay, let me try to fit into the, box of the things that she likes, the figurative box, not the literal box. And he's just trying to do what he thinks you're going to like. And if you become a little more open to doing this thing that he likes, then maybe it'll become a little more like fluid and exciting. That's kind of my point. Like, I think it could open him up where he does feel more comfortable. Again, don't do anything you don't want to do. And if this is your hard line, then maybe this isn't your person. But I wonder if she's worried that this is the gateway into

anal and she doesn't want to go there. But I think let him lick your but it's really not a big deal if you're worried about what's back there, make sure you've showered recently, you don't really have to poop, you know, like, but it will probably feel nice. It feels nice. And just let it happen. It's just an erogenous zone. You've nerve endings back there.

Like maybe if you're in your head about, oh, my God, somebody's mouth is going to be there, like try a little anal play first, like just rimming around the area with some lub or something. He doesn't have to put a finger in your bite. But like just a little bit of anal play would maybe get you more. comfortable because like I think it's really mentally you're like someone's got like my butt hole like you're embarrassed and it's hard to enjoy it because you're just like what is that smell like what does that taste like he likes it so to your point like I don't know if she feels like she can have a conversation about this with him obviously she could be loosened up with a little

alcohol he won't be if he doesn't drink but I like your point of like hey I'm I'm new to butt stuff and I'd love to give it a try because I know that you're into it if you just want to kind of start to feel around the area. Don't go tongue in yet. Like, let's start slow. Yeah. If you want. We don't have to build around me to deck.

Just don't be scared. Yeah. So I don't know if she's worried again, like I said, that he's going to want more and more and more, and then he's going to want to turn the tables and he's going to want you in his butthole. And then you got to be out. No, I'm kidding. Then you got to, you know, then you make the decision then.

I just think that, like, this is his vice. He doesn't have any other vices. He doesn't. He doesn't drink. He doesn't do drugs. He doesn't eat gluten. He's like, I eat butt. That's what I eat.

That's the thing I consume. Is your butt gluten free? Our butt's gluten free. Turns out of you ate that day. I think take a shot at tequila and let this guy lick your butt hole. Yeah, 100%. What do you have to lose? Rip that bong hit.

Okay. Fuck for a little while or whatever you want. Get into doggy position. Let him lick your butt hole. He can finish back there. You don't have to kiss him after that. Right. I actually don't think I'm going to want to lick his butthole just because the amount of Chipotle he's eating.

And he's working out. It can't be a good scene back there. No. He eats Chipotle all day every day. You don't want to eat the ass of a Chipotle bro. I don't want to eat any man's ass. The stuff that they put in their bodies. Ew.

Yeah. So I think don't be scared. And I think you will see the sex improve if you let him get a little taste. Yes. And it doesn't have to be every single time. I think sometimes you just let somebody do something one time, and they're like, I'll do this once a month. Like, it says them to be every single time.

Yeah, and you will find out because maybe he is an addict. A butt addict. He's an addict in general as a personality type, and that's why he abstains from the other thing. So you will find out if once he gets that first taste, that's all he's going to want. That's your decision, whether you. It's like an episode of Sex and City.

You're the reason he has to go to his next, like, Alcoholics Anonymous type of thing. Yeah, he falls off the way. The bottle wagon. You started drinking smoking weed. You ruined me, Carrie. I mean, sexual compatibility is really important to me. And sex is super important to me. And feeling like you're open and you want to, like, I'll do pretty much anything as I've recently large.

Yeah. Not a lot of boundaries. Exactly. But like if somebody, it was really into anal and it was like, that's how I come. Like, I don't like it. And you probably wouldn't date me. And that's like a pretty hard no for me because I want to be really sexually compatible. Yeah, 100%.

So let's say we want this to work out, which I have a good feeling about it. I like that she says their long-term goals are aligned. I think she's into this guy and she really wants our advice on how to move it forward. Like, you can't stress it enough. If you don't want to do this, don't do it. But I would like to see her let him get back there, maybe start with a little feeling around. And then he licks her butthole. And she's hopefully going to realize, oh, this is no big deal.

it feels good and I'm into it. And then maybe he wants to just like dive in a little deeper and then we'll see where it goes. And then he feels like you guys are more sexually compatible and he opens up and you have better sex. I totally see this road for them. Also, just like, it's like you said, what's it to you? Exactly. It doesn't matter. Even if you don't really like it, he likes it.

So just let him do it for a minute or two. You're going to like it. Ashley loves it. I don't even do that. I'm just like, what's that to like? I don't know. Yeah, it's just, listen, it's just a hole and a tongue and a mouth on it. And it's not your mouth on it.

So who cares? You're just hanging out. Exactly. You just hang out and pretend you like it. And then he can just fuck you from behind. And that's it. Yes. Okay.

Well, we solved dating once again. We solved. Didn't even need chat jubita. Once again. Yeah, we didn't even need Google Gemini. Okay. We are just going to talk about the remainder of our partners. And then we're going to get into it with Jow Yang.

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Yay. I'm at Girls Got to eat. I've made it. Jal Ying, we have so much to talk to you about. I don't even know where to start. I just want to thank you for making my mom happy for the past year. Because actually sent me this gorgeous, gorgeous vibes only. Dudo, what's the name of it?

Vibrator. It's not a dodo. It's a large. It's a large wand. It's a large wand. It's, I mean, because the packaging is so exciting and pretty, my mom just opened up and she started to use it on her shoulder. And then she thanked me for it.

I said, oh, she's like, I love the thing. I said, do you need the loops? She goes, no, the lotion is good. I said, oh, you're using it for your shoulder. So I was going to take it back. Yeah, you asked me for a vibrator. You were like, where's my vibrator? Where's my vibrator?

I finally got you on and you're like, my mom stole it. Like, what the fuck? We'll send you home with more today. I feel really guilty. Well, I love that. That vibrator is the best. It's our Ashley Wine and it's so good for both massages and masturbating. I use it for both.

My mother has never been happier. So let's just kick it off with masturbation. You had your podcast probably a year and a half or so ago. I came on it. And we talked a lot about it because you can talk a little about your upbringing. But you grew up more conservative. And obviously, masturbation wasn't something you... Yeah, I was blamed for it.

I remembered, my mom planted a seat for me when I got my first period. I got home. As a mom, I think I had a miscarriage. Were you like 12? Yeah, because when I was 12, I watched all the Chinese soap operas of the king and the 20 concubines

trying to get pregnant and then somebody got poisoned and then they bleed. Were you having sex? I wasn't having sex. I didn't know. I said someone personally. No, it's just so funny.

I said, Mom, I think Buddha put a seat on me. So like a virgin Mary, I got pregnant and then someone poisoned me. Now I lost the baby. I'm sorry, mom. And you weren't being funny? I wasn't. She goes, you lost the baby? Did you? What? I said, it's the blood. She goes, oh, you are, you have your period? I said, what is that period? She goes, that means you are a woman now? I said, did that mean that I'm a slut? She goes, did you ever have sex with them? I said, no, of course not. I can't do that. And she said, nobody poisoning you. I just somebody poisoned me. Like a poison in my tea, so I lost my baby. So the king wouldn't marry me.

make me the queen. Anyways, I was panicking, but she celebrated it. She said, you're a woman now. Yeah. But look at yourself in the mirror. Look at yourself in the mirror. I said, yes, she goes, I always tell you, you know, it's not possible for you get uglier, but there is possibilities.

If you touch yourself, you will get uglier. Yeah. She said everything is possible. I didn't think you could get any uglier, but you could if you masturbate. Thanks, Mom. She's like, anyway, welcome to womanhood. Yes. So what's touching?

Put your finger near it or put it inside. That's death. So she really said this when you were like a kid. Yes. And she said that you put your finger near it. You're going to get germs inside your vagina. Your whole uterus is going to be. Then you'll really lose the baby.

Destroyed and you wouldn't be able to carry the baby. Remember your auntie Sue? She removed her uterus because she touched her pussy when she's a little girl. That's really fucked up. She had cancer. But my mom's like touching yourself cause cancer. cancer. No.

Oh my God. Your mom, honestly, the only way that could have gotten me is stop masturbating as a kid, it wouldn't have been

like you're going to hell. It is you're going to get ugly. Yes. That's bad. That's what to stop me. She said,

you've got to get uglier. Yeah, even cancer might not have stopped me. But somebody said, you're going to get uglier, I would have been like hard stop

on masturbating. So I never want to put my finger near my vagina and I was doing some sports, like the jump horse, whatever. I crushed my vagina

on the on the, what do you call it, like the bar. Uh-huh. Like a gymnastics bar. I was bleeding. I said, Mom, I lost my virginity. She said, where? I said, at the bar.

She goes, you want the bar? I said, no, the bar. You know, she goes, oh. The formal horse? Yeah. Yeah. She's, it's fine. It's just something broke, but don't worry.

As long as you don't touch yourself, you're golden. Right. So you grew up in China. Yeah. When did you move here? I moved here when I was 18. I was a virgin. When you were 18.

Okay. Yeah. So your whole childhood was very, like, conservative. And the creepy. Like, yeah, okay. But your mom is, she's still there? She's here now. She's here still in your vibrators.

Right next to me. She is too far for her to scream at me on the phone. Is she nicer to you now? She's just, she doesn't even know she's crazy. She doesn't know. She's nice, but she would say something that's completely out of reality. Like my boyfriend, she just met him in December. And she would make fried rice and he'll have a big plate.

I have a little bowl. I said, Mom, I'm also hungry. She goes, he eats, he grew big muscles. You get fat. You're already short. You can't afford to be fat. I'm like, okay. So I saw a clip from some comedian.

He said, nothing cuts deeper than an insult from an older Asian woman. Yeah, they don't fucking wrong. They're telling you the truth. They're not being funny. Like, if you hear something out of their mouth, that's not like somebody's roasting you to be funny. It's like, actually, they deeply mean it. She really mean it, and she doesn't know she's being mean.

But like that's how she was raised too, right? Like that's the household she was raised in. And she's just like, this is how it is. Yes. Yeah, she doesn't understand she's being toxic. She thinks she'd look out for me. Right. She goes, you're a bitchy.

You know, when you're a bitchy, you're skinny. You can be bitchy. But if you got fat, you got to be smiling at people. You don't like that. You're welcome. I'm really, I'm sorry. That was your experience. And that's really traumatizing for a child.

That's funny. So you moved here, 18-year-old virgin. By myself. You are now divorced. So how did we get like 18 years old? And then what was your experience? Were you dating? And then when did you get married?

It took me a long time to get hot. Okay. Because the confidence I feel like is number one. Like for a girl to be hot is the confidence. Right. Number one. We are all beautiful. I feel like you are like everyone is beautiful.

Just we don't know it because of, you know, the society. I feel so bad for all Gen Z girls. They can look at the phones with all the unreal state beauty standard. Like they just don't feel they are perfect. I mean, I see a lot of Gen Z. my show. I'm like, you guys are so gorgeous. I know, totally. I was so pretty. When was your age? I did not appreciate you. You better suck

dicks and do things. Just enjoy your life. You are as hot as a girl can be. I regret. I didn't who are around when I was young because I was afraid of becoming a slut and not getting married. I'm very, like, my mom infused a lot of confuciary in my brain.

I cannot do when I stand. I mean, I don't judge any girl who does it, but I just, I was too broken to do it. And now I'm finally ready to do it. I got myself a hot guy. Like, I'm like, I'm good. What, this guy? Your boyfriend is here? This is my boyfriend. So young Chris Deppano, as you described him. So how long have you guys been together? How long? December 3rd, you guys made it? We started dating in October. How did you guys meet? We actually met at my show.

His friend was hired to film my show and ask his thing to help. So he was working on a camera. I thought he was gorgeous, but he didn't make a move on me. I'm like, no. No, you have to asking out. Yeah. But he just thought I was kind of not giving him any vibe. He didn't want to be like chasing me. Okay. How did you turn it around?

So the next show I came on June, he showed up with my merch, ass pro shop, is my ass on it. I'm like, okay, game on. I love that. Hi, I'm going to write a cowboy tonight. He's actually from Cleveland, Ohio. Then he moved to Austin, Texas to work for Tesla. So he's a little corporate babe.

Okay. He loves art. So he then, after he left Tesla, he started to work on filming. And he loves storytelling. So perfect now he runs my life. He's basically managing my tour. He works for you? He worked for me, but he also owns my life because I don't know where my underwear is.

I don't have the power to touch any key. Anything I touch it is gone. Does he dress you or do you pick out your outfits? You look great to that. I will pick out, I will put on things. He was, can you change this? I'll change. I'm like, that's really good for not being gay.

Like you, thank you. Jalya, and you've been doing great. He's only been around a few months. Yeah. You are killing it. You're a boss bitch. Yeah. So share as much as you want.

But at what age does you get married? Oh, shit. So for the kids of my father, it was 27. I had two kids. Okay. I had the first marriage, but it was not acknowledged by my fiance's parents. They hated me. They were Jewish and they want me to be Jewish.

I said, I can convert. I can know, you can't change those eyes. So they just, They hated me so much. Okay. So they asked him to choose between be with me or being disowned by his family. So he chose me, but it was just difficult, too difficult. It was all this hard.

They loved him so much. They was just torn. He was my colleague sweetheart. So we grew apart. He's a scientist, a very sweet guy. He's like one of the good Russians. It's a few of them. They exist.

Okay. I got one. You and the Jewish guy were engaged. Did you get married? We got married, but nobody, his family won't come to the wedding. So we just have a little ceremony. So it wasn't acknowledged by his family. It was just really painful.

There's no more holiday, no more, nothing. It was just, he was very close to them. That was just very hard for me. Yeah, that's really tough. So we were in college together. Then we moved to Los Angeles together. He went to Irvine for college. Okay.

For his PhD. I lived in LA. So we just kind of drift apart. But he's doing well now. He's in Denver. Okay. He's a scientist. And my husband, like the father of my kids, I met him 2017.

After this guy. Yeah, after that. That was, we had two kids together. It didn't work out. He's a businessman from Shanghai, very conservative. I thought he loved bummed me because he liked how ambitious I was. Like, oh, this is an exotic animal. Let me shoot it.

Then he caught me and he stopped like literally pulling my feathers one by one per day, like slowly. Were you doing comedy back then? I was doing acting and he gave me that false idea of his very... Because he liked art. His friends are all investing in media. He wanted to do it for fun. And dating me was kind of fun. He put money for a big project for me.

And then he started to tell me how I look. In China, my skin was too dark. My jawline was too strong. My lips were too big. I was too old of too fat. They wanted like 70 pounds. K-pop star. Skinny white, lished asshole.

So I was... You guys were living in America. at the time? Beijing. I moved to China for him. I quit my job. I had a corporate job. I was working for hedge fund.

I was making great money while I was doing acting. I was very young and happy. Like I was in my own power. So I want the young girls. Like when you have your own power, don't let anyone to rescue you. Even though the rescue, you do not give up your identity.

Do not give up who you are. And I started to, he didn't like how much I talk. Slowly, he didn't like my skin color. I need to hide from the sun and start bleaching my skin for the movie. because the director and producer is like your skin's too dark to be the leading role

because in China they want light skin and then they want me to lose 20 pounds and I start eating spinach then I realized that I couldn't remember my lines I'm sad they're like oh don't worry we have voiceover she's amazing actress she's ugly but you have her voice

oh my gosh she'll make you look good I'm like wait a minute how I look is wrong I can't have any facial impressions because they think my smiles are too big and I look too eager and weird and then they my voice is not okay I'm like okay I can't do it

then after that was the downhill for my marriage okay it's like you are weak and lazy you refuse to lose weight because you are fat you want to eat and he just started to show his true color and he didn't really love me he just thought it's fun because he had a big obedient wife you know she's very obedient she's an accountant

she's lucky to have him and he has a lot of money to give her to stay home and do nothing and then he just thought this is bird this ego whatever let me catch it and stop pulling the fight and putting a cage. It was like a challenge. Yeah, he's like he wants to cage me up and see how I become a domestic like a little cat. That's how I felt.

That's where his funds from. He doesn't love me as my identity. That was a very dehumanizing experience. That's the worst in my childhood. My mom is mean, but she wouldn't do anything for me. They would actually love me to support my dreams. But he wanted me to feel wrong about my own skin, my voice, my skin color, how I look, especially how I talk to people.

She's thinking, he thinks I'm just too eager. When I communicate with my maid, I would like, how are you? Give her a hug and talk to her. You can't talk to servants like that. You are losing my face. I'm just like, she's a woman. I'm a woman. That's who I am.

I want to hug. She's dirty. I'm like, we are not the same people. Like we, I would never, like slowly I realized that. Then I moved back to LA. You got a divorce and moved back. I had my son that I was going to get a divorce and I got pregnant

and then I really decided to get divorced divorce because this baby I need to make sure she didn't have to see how I was just caged by someone who's going to... And it's abusive. It's mentally, very mentally abusive. Yeah. He was never physically abusive.

But I sloth him and he choked me. It was my fault. I should not slap him. Oh my God. It's okay. He choked me. I hate him with a wooden cutting board. He's fine.

He's fine. I mean, I had to. I mean, he's not like the violent kind. Okay. He just, like, you slap me? He was, like, shocked. But anyway, he's mentally abusive. And I guess I couldn't, I just, I couldn't do it.

I love money, you know, I love financial freedom. I just, I can't. Like, every day you wake up, but like, you can't eat. Like, you have to, I have to put a bleaching lotion on my skin to look wider. I can't do it. Right. I want to empower girls who look all shape or form. And I'm not going to change into a different person to empower girls to bleach them.

their skins and not eat. Of course. Girls have got to eat. Girls have got to eat. Yeah, at the request of your partner on top of that. Yeah. And he's trying to tell me he loves me. So you got pregnant and that was, that was like the cue to just get out of it.

Yeah. I was pregnant. I'm like, I'm keeping this baby. She's a girl. She's the gift of my life. I'm keeping her. I'm going to call my mom. I'm going to try stand-up comedy.

Oh my gosh. And that's when you started it. Okay. You moved back to L.A. Yeah. And start a stand-up. Yeah. Okay.

Wow. I got my first open mic. I sucked the balls and I bought a comedy club right away in a month. I'm like, I suck. Let me get on stage. The comedy club. I just, I know how much I suck and I heard there's nobody laughing.

I'm like, this is not going to work. We need 10,000 hours. Let's get 10,000 hours. I'm not going to. I can't get on any stage. Like I am a single mom now so I can't whore around and get on stage. I need to buy my own place so I can get on stage.

And that's what I did. That is such a baller. story. I just, I was pregnant. I left my husband. I wanted to be community and I bought a comedy club. Yeah. But I mean, it absolutely is. But it's like to your point. You committed to it to the craft. And you're like, this is how I have to get the hours. Yes. I mean, it's hard to hear to get spots. So hard. And you do have to run around. You have to ask people. Like lately, I've just been like, I'll do anything. You know, like I need the time. And sometimes the lottery mic is the worst. The lottery makes a word. The lottery makes. The lottery. I'm there for three hours and you realize, oh,

I didn't get pulled. Right. Yes. It's so hard. I left my rich husband penniless. I have one boy, one Chinese boy and a baby girl in my stomach and studying comedy. People think I'm a massage horror. I'm like, I do nails. What are you talking about?

Why do you call me a massage horror? And then I realize the worst thing I can ever do at that moment. I don't want to do, but I have to do it is call my mom and beg her to come to America and help me as a kid so I can do comedy. That is a big thing for me. I escaped from my mother. Like when I was 18, I escaped from her verbal abuse.

Now I have to call her, to beg her, to tell her I was wrong, because she was not happy when I married my husband. Okay. He was very rich. I saw she was greedy. She would love the money, but no. She thinks he's 20 years older than me. She's actually very smart because she's so mean. I don't respect her brilliance, but she said that he and you and him, you are just like a fresh new flavor of the week for him.

Like she saw that what was going on. Yes. And the value you have and him is very different. He's very traditional. A woman should walk behind a man. Yeah. In his world. Because he's her age.

And I should not. I should not do it. And I will be miserable. And she was right. I didn't want to tell her she's right. But I told, Mom, you're right. She goes, oh, just for that sentence, I'm coming. That's how you want her over?

Yeah. So this is crazy. So your mom moved here from China to help you. English. To help you. raise your children so you could be out doing comedy during COVID yeah she couldn't come because Trump had a ban China and America China can't fly there right so I have to flew her to Dubai my crazy had to find the girlfriend lived there so she put my mom in a hotel for 14 days to

make sure she's COVID free and then my mom flew from Dubai to L.A and then she came and then once I had her we found a little apartment and we took a kid and we had the baby girl and I had the club and I just started to build this comedy thing from nothing. But I had to make it because they got to eat. You know, the kids got to eat. My son needs a trust fund. He's a Chinese boy. He didn't get laid. My daughter, she's going to be so smart and brilliant. So I need to fix my mental problem in order for her to not come me out. You're going to do great. So how's it going with your mom? She is... You guys live together. We live together. There's a hard times. My mom slowly,

are nice to me now because I can make money now. So she just like, you look so fabulous. But your relationship sounds like it's improved. It's improved. It's just after I become a mother, I understand that the level of sacrifice, she sacrificed everything for me. Yeah. I mean, I didn't ask her to.

She could get an abortion, but she kept me, even though my penis was missing, and she could blame me for not being a boy. But I realized my mother's life has been when she was a little girl. My grandpa died. When my mother was seven, she lost her father. She had four brothers, and they had no money. And she was starving because the boys eat food because they had to go to school.

She stayed home. And she's always hungry, and they never give her food. So she wanted to become strong and successful, so she can take care of. She would never be hungry again. And my father is an alcoholic. So my mother just raised us by herself. She just never had a childhood. When she's 16, she married.

She married. She's 18. The Chinese calendar, she's like a barely turning 17. Yeah. She married him. She had me. And then she just needed a boy. So she kept having babies and she had to take care of us.

So she never had a life. It's just tough to find like to like warmth when you've never seen it in your own life. You know, like she just had a really tough life, it sounds like. And she gave to you what she thought she could, which is just like be strong, be a badass, you know, be what society wants you to be. Like she mothered you the only way that she could. Yeah. And then you're like repairing this relationship through your own motherhood journey. I don't know.

That sounds so cheesy, but it's like, so cheesy. You looking back and being like, this is all she went through, like you can have more compassion, empathy towards her. I don't know. It obviously sounds like it's not perfect, but I really do like to hear about your relationship with her. Yeah, I remember when I had, I was dating this boy from Kentucky, and he was not great. He was a Kentucky boy.

He, we were dating, he cheated on me, and I was breaking up with him, and he pushed me. and I felt I broke my finger. And I said, I broke my finger. My mom was just like, she said, you fisted me now. I remember, she told me that. She's like,

Ru'o, chang shish, she goes, the weak ones got to get eaten. The strong one survives. You better become strong. You cannot cry about it. You're going to go to the gym. You're going to work hard.

You're going to be great. You're going to look good. You're going to feel good. You remember the Ninth King massacre. The Japanese came over and murdered like 200,000 people. They raped the pretty girls. Because we were weak.

Because China was weak. That's what we got. I'm going to rip and murdered. Do you want to get a rip and murder? I'm going to go, no, no, mom. She goes, don't be wicked. Don't cry like a little bitch. Go to the gym, work out.

Go find a job, two jobs, three jobs. Be rich. Don't cry, bye. She's like an inspirational speaker. She's like, a nine king massacre. She's like, Tony Robbins. It's very bad for us. We were weak and the pretty girl got murdered.

Rich ripped and the ugly one got murdered. You know, don't be weak. If you're weak, be pretty. I mean, that'll make you strong. Yeah, I was like, okay, mom. So I can't cry in front of her. Mm-hmm. I felt like you saved your daughter.

And I feel really, yeah. It's like beautiful. She's the reason why I said, I was thinking. I'm like, I got rejected so many times in acting because of my accent. And I felt that I had run with my auditioning. I got very close to some major series that I could be the lead, but they end up choosing other options because the other actress, they don't have an accent.

They have more credit under their belts. I always don't get. personal is because my mother was a businesswoman. She owned restaurants and a mining company. So I understand it is always a business decision. You know, like they choose the girls over me because those girls are going to be more marketable than me, you know? Like they are more famous. Therefore, it's a movie, TV shows to be better. I understand why I failed. But I know I cannot do acting anymore. And I try to stand up. I realize that it's more difficult than acting. So I felt that I either just don't try stand up and go live with my husband.

with my son just disappear. But when I had my daughter, I was pregnant and I find out it's a girl, I decided to keep her and keep myself. I decided to leave. And I also decided to take both kids, even though that means I have no child support. I won't get any money from him, but I need kids. I could not imagine my life without them, like, or being apart from them because he's going to take them to China. So we had a lawsuit that took a long time that I finally compromised everything. I want no money, no child support. I want two kids. I want to to live with me. That's all I want.

And he thought I was kidding. So he agreed to it because he knew I'll come back and beg him for money because it's so expensive. Right. He was just like, she's not going to go through it. No, she's not going to. Then I actually, I power through it. I sold all my purse. I sold all my jewelry.

I borrowed money to friends as much as I can borrow. And then I made comedy happen. Oh my God. Jiao. Your story. I've talked to you throughout like the years of just like going through it and just like, don't get a twist. I don't have any money out of this.

You know what I mean? Like, I've had to just, like, do this all on my own post-divorce, two kids. I mean, it's so wildly impressive. It is. And I can't wait for your daughter to, like, really have those moments with you where she, like, really understands what you did for her. I just love without his, like, without him yelling, I mean, and screaming, I mean, you know, for her to grow up without looking at that.

It's just so much peaceful. And this morning, I woke up, and we're going to cops in San Francisco this weekend. And we know we saw our early shows, but, like, yesterday, we're like 30% sold for the league show this morning they are both sold out, the four shows I sold out. I asked my boyfriend, I don't think I think it's a glitch. I don't think it's real. And then Sylvia, my agent called and my manager called like,

yeah, they are adding the Sunday shows. I'm like, I cannot believe it. Oh, that makes me so happy. I saw it's a glitch. I'm like, there's no way. Right. Because it's a copse. It's like, it's not possible.

It's huge. Yeah. So I want to talk to you about like, it sounds like you're driven from your life experience and your mom and all this, but you really, like we were joking about this phrase yesterday, failure is not an option. You seem like you are like you started comedy or like I sucked at it. People will get roles over me for this reason and that like you just keep pushing. You are making it as we speak and you will continue to just like get even more famous, more success. But like,

I don't know. I'm just curious about like where it comes from and what makes you like be like, I'm going to stop at nothing to achieve these goals. I think when I was a younger girl, I'm ambitious, but I lock off the faith and belief because of life was hard. Childhood was difficult, but I didn't really have like kids like the children I felt that I need I feel like when I was a young girl I felt like if I failed I'm just going to marry a rich guy a rich guy is going to take care of me like I don't have to worry about anything but when I have kids it's not an option because the because the rich guy if he has to pay for my children I have to listen to him I can't do what I want I have to be very obedient imagine somebody is taking care of your kids why should they if

they are, you have to listen to them, do whatever they want you to do. And that's not going to be healthy for my daughter and my son to be raising. I remember I'm a little bitch. So I wanted to give them everything. And I want them to live a life with dignity. And like a role model, they can always look up to whenever something bad happens. They're like, mom would power through. Like, mom would not judge me. And mom is, that's what mom did. Because I think like showing them, living as example is worth a million words of education. Like you don't have to teach them to be strong. Don't be lazy.

My son see how hard I work. My daughter see it. And they see how hard grandma work. So they would, I think that that was the best gift I can give them, even though we were so poor. When I just left, I had nothing. He took all the savings. And even the house we bought together,

he wanted me to pay half the money. He doesn't need the money. He just won't drive me penniless, so I have no option. But I knew what he wanted. And I was just, I'm like, comedy is going to happen. I'm going to feed the kids. They are going to live a good life.

So I think the children gave me no plan B. I didn't have a plan B. I either am going to, I'm going to, I'm going to do it. I'll be a stripper. My kids are going to go to good school. I'll be a stripper. I really don't care. I will do whatever it takes to give them the best thing I can give them

and not give up my dreams. I'll be sleeping at night and go to open bag at daytime. I don't give a fuck. I decided to do this. I'll do it. And I always knew I was funny when I was a little girl. always funny. So I know I can do it. I just need to get good. And it is that take time. I just have to have patience to get good. And I don't believe in luck. I just need to buy the club and I host the open mic 10 hours a day. Nobody can do it. People, because people are normal. You know, no crazy bitch. I was cleaning the toilet. I was setting up as an open mic slots and I was making the flyers. I was standing outside the Laugh Factory, the improv at the open mic days to give out flyers to my club. Nobody believed I opened the club. And, and I was setting up the flyers and I was making the flyers. I was making the flyers. I was making the flyers. I was making the flyers. I was. I was. I was. I was And they were like, you're not kidding.

I said, in a storefront. It's a frontage sign. This is an amazing story. I'm sure. Very moved by it. But like, we talked a lot about like saving your daughter. But like also your son being raised in that environment and seeing a man treat his wife like that. And how a man just controls women.

Like, I think you're going to raise a better man now because that's not the example that he sees. And you meet men that are raised by like single women that just like hustled and did everything they could. And like those are great. partners to have. Yes. When I took my daughter, he took my son. He came and got my son. He's like, I'm going to divide them. I'm getting the boy. You're getting the girl. Unless you have the money to take care of them, which you don't. Yeah. So I haven't seen my son for two months. As long as I've never seen him. And he won't let me see him. And when I saw him, he stopped talking. Your son did? Yeah. He won't talk. Oh my God. But he can still hear the, when the washer

start, he goes like this. So I know he's, so I started tracking and they were thinking he's autistic. So we started to go to the occupational therapy, but the doctor said, we don't know yet. You know, we have to wait until he's a little older to evaluate, but he definitely is, he's not talking, and we need to see what's going on. So I decided, I think I just went there, and I just took him.

I said, I would have the money. They are not going to, I'm going to give you whatever you want in the divorce. I want no money, nothing. Even though my car is in China, the house, whatever, I'm taking him. So I took him and then after around a month, he started to talk. Oh my God. Yeah.

I find out that he said that when he can talk again, he said that whenever he piss him off, he basically time out him in a room to not talk. To lock him there and to punish him. It's like a very old-fashioned way of doing it when you have no food. You leave the kid at home. But that's just like he can't handle it. Also, he didn't see me anymore and he didn't have conversation. It's like, we are divorced or like, he's like, she died, you know.

Oh, my God. Right. He's traumatized. You know, just shh. Because the Chinese parenting is like, don't talk to me. Uh-huh. I give you food, just eat, shut up, you know. So I'm like, I will, I'll do whatever.

And now he's a mom that talks for a living. Yes. And he's opening for me too. He's on stage. He is. He is. How old is he? He's only six.

Oh, my God. He comes on stage. No, he come on stage and he is a trip. He, when we're in D.C., he got on stage with his little tiny, He goes, oh my gosh, there are so many black people in D.C. I guess the only white person lives in the White House. I'm like, why did I? He's got jokes.

Right this. This is good one. He wrote a set. He wrote that. He just came up with it. He just like, I'm like, okay. He's going to be funny. I'm so happy his father left. We need that trauma for him to be funny.

Yeah, he's got the trauma. Yeah, I don't have enough trauma. He talks now. I can't believe it. I mean, he can shut up. He's like, man, ma'am, ma'am. He took that time off and talking. He's making up for lost time.

I'm like, you know what? I hate that, but like, I prayed for this moment. Yeah. I'm like, I'm going to, one day, he's going to talk and then stop. I'll be annoyed by it. Now it happened. So tell us about some things that have happened in your comedy career. Like, have you been like, I can't believe this is really happening?

And like, I saw you like with LeBron. Like, I don't know. Like, you had some really crazy experience. I couldn't believe it. I just, I was going to Buffalo, New York to do my show. And then LeBron's office reached out for me to be on. and the shop with him and Andre 3000 and because Andre 300 requests me

as his favorite comedian. I know all cast. I know their songs, but like I cannot believe. You're Andre 3000's favorite comedian. I can't believe it. We're just texting. He'll send me traffic cones

because that's his favorite. I'll send him traffic cones and he said, oh, you can use my song so fresh or clean for your walk-up song for your special. He's so sweet. He's like, I just,

I watch you on YouTube every day. and he can say my name perfectly. So now I have no excuse. People can say, I'm like, Andrei Suu's not can say, you can say it. You can say it. It's Zhao Ying.

Or call me, hey, yeah, you know, whatever. And what? He just was like, LeBron and I want to meet up? Yeah, so he's like, so LeBron, he saw all my stuff. Andre sent him,

and he was quoting my jokes when I met him. I lost my. LeBron was. I couldn't believe. He's a big lip, small lip, he was. He's, I was like.

To have somebody like that, quoting you, yeah. What is Lebron like? He is very tall, but he is, his energy and his state is basically in his 20s because he's been, I don't know how many million dollars a year on his health. Ah. Yes. Like his physical age.

Yeah, yeah. So he definitely looks super young. And he giggles. He loves. I forget he has like adult children. That's on his team. Like, Brani plays with him. I just forget because I look at him and I'm like, he's just young.

He's fascinating. I watched this Netflix show called Starting Five. People like him and Tom Brady also who have made their body their whole business. They literally are physically younger than any of their counterparts because of what they've done. I find it very fascinating. Yeah, I think he's also kind of cute.

He's very spontaneous and he would always during the show he's rapping Andrew's song. My bitch choosy. Never ever fuck without robber. Like whatever it is. I forgot the song. But LeBron was rapping. rapping what he every, every lyric is wrong.

And he just keeps doing it. And Andre's like, uh, and every time he rubs is like the wrong lyric, but he just, he's so, he's so into it. He grew up listening, like Andre's his icon. He would go to, he would buy a ticket, go to a little club

where Andre is playing his flute and he just show up there without telling him. And just go there. That's how much he loves, Andre. I love, I mean, I love Andre. I saw him in the Whole Foods in Atlanta once. Actually, one time I saw him twice in a day, That was insane, Ashley. That's crazy.

I forget where it was the first, and I saw him later in Whole Foods. I was like, this is wild. That is crazy. I've never seen anybody twice in a day. Yeah. I have a question for you. Because, like, you talk about how you grew up with a lot of, like, shame around sex. And it seems like you're very, like, confident.

And, like, you dress so great. You seem very feminine. And it touched with yourself. Like, was there something that happened that, like, made you change your attitude about sexuality? When I got, when I become a pretty girl, I realized that I was desirable. Like, I, I wasn't pretty. It's because I knew I wasn't pretty. as a whole stereotype in China.

I had short hair and I was slouching because I didn't, my boob came in I was very embarrassed. Me too. I used to kind of slouch and try to hide my boobs. And then I had aconies on my forehead because I'm nervous. I pick myself like this. I mean, I was just like, wear my glasses just hiding around in the corner

slouching around like a rat. Obviously nobody's going to fuck that. You were just awkward. Very awkward. But I just started tutoring for the school. I was a mass tutor my job on the side to make extra cash. And I started to tutor for the basketball players.

Then once I start to learn them, all the hot, sordid girls, yeah, it's a hot porn. All the sordid, hot girls, I would wish they can be my friend. They won't even look at me. And they start to like, hey, we'd like invite you to, you know, because I have access to the basketball players. To the guys. Yeah. So they start trying to be nice to me and they're like,

it's like a makeover from sheer, like from clueless. They saw this little awkward girl We can make you hot They start like Why don't you just stop slouching? I'm like But I don't like my boobs Because oh those are good

You want them I'm like oh I got my first bra They took me to Victoria Secret I got my first bra I got this Because I got it like They would measure me

Was this in China or in America? In America Okay it sounds very like American Scottish shority girls This is not Chinese sorority girls Yeah Okay so they were like

Let's buy a bra Let's do like a makeover Yeah Then I just I still like Try to slouch Then they introduced contact to me, eye contact lenses. I'm like, oh.

This is a true, like, makeover story. Yeah. But I was still don't, I mean, like, okay, I'm like, I'm not that ugly. That's cool. I can be normal girl now. That's fun. But then I'm a painter. I do calligraphy.

I was trained to do calligraphy and painting. So I just had this friend that she does modeling and they have a photo shoot. They have a makeup artist whose babysitter cancel. I can't do it. And they said we need somebody to paint butterflies. on the eye and the things like do you know anyone? I said I don't know any makeup artists

they were like it's $200 a day I said I can do it. Yeah I'll do the makeup I do it. Face is the same as piece of paper I'll fucking draw this face. I went to buy makeup at the outer whatever it is I went there and I just paint I just see which one is you to paint I bought those stuff I can paint I can paint like a real painter so I did it like you are amazing

like you are better than... First time out of the gate yeah I'm like I am I just painted it yeah that's what they do you paint I like, yeah, I do that, though. I become a makeup artist. So you became a makeup artist. Then I started working with those pretty girls, and they just keep telling me,

you are so pretty. I'm like, who? You, it's so sweet. They're like, you know what? Why don't you do this shoot with me for Harley Davis? Because they need an Asian girl, and they don't have it in Kentucky. I said, I don't, I don't have bikini.

I can't, no, no, they have bikinis. I said, but I don't have a body for it. They're like, yeah, you can, you'll be fine. I said, I just can't do it. It's my shift. I'm working for the Miyako, restaurant, Japanese restaurant,

I'm serving for like all day on Sunday. They're like, it's $900. I said, I'll do it. I'll put a bikini on. Yeah, I put a bikini on and I did

holiday with a cover shoot and I, I said goodbye. I said goodbye to the restaurant. To the restaurant. To being ugly. I bought a condom and I'm fine. I became good.

I feel like that's not the question you asked, but there was a way better answer. It's a great answer. I'm like, I bought condoms. I am good. It's just funny, like, you bought a bra and took your glasses off and they're like, she's hot. No, it's like, she's all that. You know that movie?

I watched when I was very young. She's all that. She's all that. And you were even like a painter. Like, they, like, lady bogs. She had like coveralls that she used to wear. And they just took them off and she just like had a hot body under there. I cannot believe it.

I couldn't believe it. I become hot because it's my dream. It used to become a pretty girl. In my dream, since I was a little girl. I'm like, I want to become pretty. My mom's like, don't wear pink. Your skin's too dark. wear pink. It make pink

pinker. I'm like, you're like, that's the whole idea. These girls told me that we wear pink on Wednesdays. Yes, that's why we pink on Wednesdays. That's why girls with dark skin, like to bright color because it looks even better on dark skin. Bright pink, bright yellow. You know, my mom's like, don't worry, just wear black.

Hide yourself. But you were like a late bloomer. You were like you didn't lose your virginia to what, 18, 19, something like that? I was a virgin in Kentucky for a year and a half. Okay. And then, you know, you had some of this stigma around like sex and masturbation from your mom.

Like, did it all just kind of like melt away? Or did you still have to work? through. I still can't masturbate. Okay. Oh, you still can't? I can't. I'm going to learn from vibes only to open up my sexuality and my womanhood with those two queens. Are you able, this is weird with your boyfriend here, but are you able to like orgasm with a partner? Yes. Okay, and you feel like good about that. I had like penetration, penetration sex. That's, that's the only way I can come and that's why I saw that I never believe the girls can come from getting eating out I don't believe it I just don't think it's a thing it never happened to me before I can do it it it is a thing

it's crazy it's crazy it's like you it never worked for you never and then then my boyfriend him he is the first person in my life made me come from going down on you from going down on me and every time they go down I come like I couldn't oh my god I can't believe it I don't think my body can do it okay but I really feel like it's hard so So like I was, somebody was going down on me the other day. And I had to like drop into my body a little bit more. Like I had to say to myself like, I am going to stop thinking about other things. I'm going to stop judging the decor in this room.

I'm just going to enjoy this. And like the minute I committed to just like dropping into my body, I was like, oh, this, I'm going to come so fast. But it takes a second for me to like, like, like, relax because like when you're having sex with another person, like you're both doing something. But when someone's going down, you're just laying. there? It's hard for me. I start to get a little anxious and I'm just like, what does this taste like for him? How does this feel for him? Like, you start thinking about your to do list. I really do.

I was like this thing. Your voice noting me. This wall hang is fucking stupid. Like, but that's why I asked about the orgasm because I mean, women just were always in our head. So on top of whether you were raised with any stigma or shame or not, like there's other stuff going on swirling in your head that keeps, prevents you from getting in touch with your body and having an orgasm. So it seems like you were able to find it. Okay. What are your like eating out? tips. Do you have a special strategy? Yeah. Come to sit here. So we brought you into the shot because I want to ask like what's your, what's this,

the secret to eating puisei, to making Zhao Ying come who never believed. Well, I think it's, it has a lot to do with what you guys are talking about in like the mental state of where you're at and the relaxing the trust between you and your partner and the connection you two have and what they're doing. I think just her focusing on me and what I'm doing and trusting what I'm doing and having that trust with me is a big part of it because if you don't have that, it's like it doesn't matter what you do. You're not going to get to where you want to go. But if you have that there, you know, what you're doing is going to be effective. And then, you know, for play goes a lot into it. I think that's a big part of that most people miss on it. Yes.

It's the lead up into the activity that matters just as much as the activity. She's getting hornying just hearing you talk about it. He has got his hair. He has good hair. Yes. What are your favorite things about Jiao Yang? Like what you drew you to her? I'm so happy you guys are talking about her story. That was the first thing I fell in love with with her. Because she tells it on stage too. And with the first show I saw her, I thought she was hilarious.

But I also like, I've always liked ambitious women. I've always been with... Your mom is very ambitious and popular. Yeah, I've had ambitious girlfriends before. I think that's probably the common denominator between it. That was so evident in what, you know, the jokes she was telling, but also just hearing about, like, you guys, I mean, just talking about all she did and all she overcame to get to where she is.

I wanted to be part of it on the business. Like at the beginning, like she said, I didn't know she was interested in me, like, attract me. I just was so interested in just being part of her life in, like, whatever I can do on the business side because I knew, like, from the conversation we briefly had about how things were going, I knew, like, my expertise was a lot of what she was looking for. So I felt like I could help her out. And, like, this is person I believed in from the beginning.

And, yeah, I found her attractive. But, like, that's where it started. It didn't start with, like, physical attraction. And that was where it, like, it was where, like, it was. end up happening very soon after that, but because we started talking and I started telling her how I felt about her story. And yeah, I mean, that was what drew me to her more than anything. Now you are stepdad to a Chinese girl. Yeah, I love her and her daughter, her daughter. Her daughter, I have really, they are the best friends. How long did it take before you introduced your kids to him? Two months? Two months. Two days after we became official though. But two, we traveled every week together to different cities. So we got to know each other in a faster trip. Right. I know you guys said that. earlier. We've only been together over three months, but I actually did a, well, when you said,

I'm like, it's actually, it feels longer because we've been to 21 cities together and we, since December 3rd, have spent all of 10 days apart. Wow. Yeah. So you guys are on the road together. Yeah. We are, yeah, for most people in three month relationship in the beginning, we have put together, put in time for a long time. Okay. Yeah. Well, thanks for joining us. Absolutely. Thank you. Thank you. What? They're good. They're fine. You chipped off. I'm envious of yours. I'm I'm going to mix and match. I'm going to do one pink and one mint. I'm jealous your little schoolgirl outfit.

Oh, I, this is, you got to be shocked by how much it is cost. This is cost $5. Oh my God. On target. I went to Dubai, I promise I'll make him pasta, which I don't know how. I want to go get tomato and this one is there. Five dollars, I'm going to buy this. I like it.

It's a vibe. I'm going to copy that whole outfit. I just like that he said that he just wanted to be part of your life. Like, he just was like, whatever she's got going on. I just want to be in her aura and her energy. I'm so impressed by her story, so inspired. Like, I just think that's a great starting point. Yeah.

You know, you hear people say, like, oh, I just thought she was hot. He was just like, I just want to be whatever she's got going on. I want to just be a part of it. He is so stoic that I don't even worry he's hot because he's not going to, he, when he opens his mouth, girls are going to cry. I remember. He's not going to talk to anybody. No, he just, like, when we were cuddling, just started dating kind of, like, I put

his hand on my boobs. Do you like them? He goes, I'm an assman. I'm like, good. He's just blunt. I'm like, good. He's not going to cheat on me. He can't.

He won't. He would just be disgust by everything. He's like, everything he says, girls will be like, you are an asshole. I'd be like, that's how my fiancee is? Like, I mean, no. Like, if he's even, like, even if a woman would have the audacity to flirt with him, he'd be pissed. He'd be like, how dare you? Don't.

I love that. Like, he's just kind of a dick. Like, yeah, I love that. I like it. He's not like a flirt. I love that. Yeah. I just.

I'm confident, but like I I think like if someone's cheating on me, I just can't handle it. I'm just too proud. I can't handle it. I don't know how, but I just do it don't. Well, I think you guys are going to do great. Yeah.

Do sex emails? Yeah, so I mean, you're just so fun and spicy. So we do a game sometimes our listeners and we say email us your is this weird scenarios and we did a sex-based one for you. And we just got some emails and people we're going to judge, is this weird or not? Nice.

I like this one. I was sucking my man's dick, and he kept pushing my head further to eat his ass. So me being the down-ass bitch I am, I ate his ass. The second I started looking at this man's ass, he says, hold on, we're going to switch positions. And then he flips around onto his knees to him in a full doggy style. This guy's on all fours. He's on all fours. Like, I'm talking back-arched, face-down, ass up.

That's the way we like to fuck. And then he says, okay, I'm good. Signaling, he's ready for me to continue looking his butthole. Very jarring. but I still had a great time. I wore the pants in this hook up. A month later, I had a threesome with him and his twin brother. Oh, that's a plot twist.

Oh, I think she's asking is the butthole thing weird, but I would like to ask more questions about the threesome. With twins. What if you got confused? What if their penises touched by accident? Do you think their penises look the same? I think so. Well, are they identical or fraternal?

Yeah. I have so many. I would show to email her back, sis, tell us about the threesome. Can you explain that? Hold on. I feel like I'm confused a little bit. So he's on his back. He didn't have his ass eaten on all fours.

So he was on his back. She was going down on him. And basically he was like, lick my butthole. And she was like, all right, basically like getting happy baby like lift her knees up.

And she's looking from that angle. And he's like, no, no, no. I need you to have more access to my butthole. And then he got on all fours, which the one time I ate a butt,

that is how it was. It's key to the city. Wait, so where are you? Are you also on all fours? You're kind of a centip behind them. Yeah. I mean, the other scenario would be the,

they were standing and you're on your knees like licking their butthole. Which people have done that to me before. Yeah. Jiao Ying, give us all your thoughts on eating ass. What is your, what are your butthole feelings?

I never had anal sex. I'm saving it for the third marriage. I. Okay. And what, butthole stuff? I mean, I never liked a butthole before,

but I like the smell of his ball sack. I just like it. I did not. know where the sentence was going. I was like, how she had to land the plane. I don't judge. Does he ever, like, teabag you?

Putting his dick on my face. His balls on your face. Balls and, I mean, dick in my mouth. Yeah. Okay. I was just trying to find teabag community. Because she got teabacked a couple weeks ago. I mean, I just love the smell his ball sack.

Like, just as long as it's close to my nose, I'm good. Do you think that's because you love him? I think so. I'm sorry, I don't know if you guys said that yet. I'm like, I'm like, both of us has really, really strong nose. We can sniff everything. If he fuck someone, I can sniff the pussy from the hallway. I'll be like, Japanese!

You know? Okay, well, that's time. That brings us to our next email, actually. So she writes in, she says, I once went on a really great tour in Tulum before Touloum turned into Burning Man Crypto Broville. That's so funny. And the tour guide was really smart, funny and hot.

So naturally my friends and I agreed to get drinks with him after the day tour ended and I got smashed and brought him back to our Airbnb and banged him. Turns out he had a baby mama partner. He failed to mention, who was, calling him over and over again. He starts freaking out saying she will be able to tell that he cheated because she will smell the latex from the condom we obviously used as one does when banging strangers in Touloum and in general. So I told him to wash his dick off and get out. He goes in the bathroom

and washes only his penis, comes back into the room, buck-ass naked, and asks me to sniff it. For no godly reason I can imagine post this particular moment in time, I comply with this request. I literally bend down and take a whiff. I tell him smells like soap and he goes, shit, she's definitely going to be able to tell. At this point, I... Like, what is it supposed to smell? Like, musty? At this point, I regain my wits a bit.

Suggests he rub his sweaty clothes around his body to create a uniform smell. She's a uniform smell. She's scientist. Jesus. And inform him, that's the last way. I'll be participating in this ridiculous, unconsentitude deception and that he needs to get the fuck out of my Airbnb and go take care of his child. To this day, I don't understand why I sniff that penis.

Yeah, I feel like I would have. Like, you know me. I would have been down there. She's such a nice lady. The vibe is that, oh, God. God, now we're in this together. Now we have to solve this. I'm going to bury the body together, the penis body. Yeah.

And it's like, you don't want it to smell like vagina or latex or soap. Yeah. Well, the vagina's off of it once he's washed it. Yeah. But I don't know, you think you could detect. Yes, I can smell the hint of the vagina. That happened to be once. I can say, you can smell it.

Yeah. You can definitely smell it. I have a dog. I can, when I go to my grandpa's house, I said, Grandpa, there's a snake in there. I can sniff it. Okay. I can sniff it.

So, like, send either turn me out. me off. Uh-huh. So, like, his, the smell of his hair and his ball sack. The boll sac are, like, the most intense smell. Yeah. So I like to sniff it.

I just like to sniff it. I don't know why. I'm disgusting, but... No, I mean, so much about, like, intimacy of the person is disgusting. You shit around the person, you share all these bodily fluids, like, and their morning breath. Like, so much about deep intimacy is kind of disgusting. Yeah.

Yes. So when you go down there, do you also go down on him or you just like to sniff around? When I give a blowjob, I would suck the dick and lick the balls. You do. Sometimes just sniff the tank area. Because I don't go down to the asshole, but I just... You get close. I get close to it.

I don't get... You spin the block. Yeah, I don't know. We're not doing it yet, but I don't know. But I definitely like the ball sack. I just like the smell of him. No one ignores a ball sack more than me. I just, I forget it's even there.

I pay no attention. Unless somebody specifically requested on the menu, then I'll do it. day long, but no one ever requests it. I would love to, like, I always, you'd love to time more time with the balls? I always ask. Well, now, you know, I have, my.

She's over the market. She's like, oh. All the guys I've been fucking lately. Earlier she said with my current fiance. Yeah, I've been troubled. You guys are so hot together. It's insane. You are, you are, you're a jail bait with your, like,

all your fashion and your beauty. Like, I love the clothes and the style. Thank you. And I face. Oh my gosh. Ashley surveys the room, though. She's so fucking hot. By current partner

You have legs for days too How tall are you? I'm sorry How tall am I? Yeah you're Or him? Oh, 510 Oh, I'm so envious

How tall are you? No, I can't talk about it I lie about it I'm 5'5'8 I'm 5'3 But I don't want to talk about it I put on 52 on dating apps And I'm exactly

But I said to actually I will show up 52 Like I put on heels And like what's it to you Yeah Because we have to Because the girls are 411 They tell people

They are 6 feet tall I've never had any complaints About my height Might have always been like Pretty fine about it Yeah It's just my ex-husband is. But like growing up, I was so insecure about my height.

I mean, it was, I... We're always insecure about the good things about us. But when you're taller than all the boys, because, like, girls grow first, usually. So, like, I would lay in bed and just, like, pray that something would happen. I would just wake up shorter. Like, I was, like, going to church a lot. I was like, I just want to be, like, five, five. Like, I just all I cared about.

I, like, would cry about it. I was just, like, so tall, flat-chested, had braces, you know, big nose. It was like, it was brutal. It's just, it's hard at that age. I think as an adult, it's so confident. Oh, I'm actually growing into a supermodel. Okay. Right.

But we didn't know when your little girl, though. Yeah, my lips, I have to do this. I do concedure over my lips to make it smaller because my mom said, someone told me that your lips got blow up by, by, by, by like, grenade. Your lips are amazing. Are those your natural lips? Yeah, I have to put a conceder. You were born like this.

Can I make it bigger? He goes, no. No, you were born like this? Don't ever touch your lips. They're unreal. Thank you. I always thought, actually, I'll go bigger. and then she gives me a weird face.

Your lips are unbelievable. Thank you. This is the DSL. Yeah. Yeah. Ben Balls socks. I love balls. But to close the loop, if someone wanted their balls, touched, fondled, licked, I would be into it.

Yeah. It's just like a lot of guys don't care about them. They should. They should. I think so. They're so fun. I don't care one or the other. They're so squishy.

I love them. I love them. It's really big balls. Yeah. They're nice to play with. Yeah. It's so funny to bounce them. Yeah.

Yeah. No one ever cares about it with me. Well, okay, well, thanks for, I guess we, are we going to answer it? Is that weird? Is that weird? Yeah, it's weird. Yeah, it's weird. But you're a hero, so you just give her. But is it, I don't even know what word do you.

I mean, this guy is a cheater and she's obviously. She had no idea. Well, if she's smelling his dick when he comes home, I think she knows something's up. Yes. Oh, yeah. It's not her fault. It's not the elder's fault. I can just, you know, sometimes you're a situation and you're drunk and it's late at night and you're like,

I guess I'll do this. And then afterwards, you're like, what the fuck just happened? Like, you have sex with this guy and he's panicking. He's like, just sniff my dick. And you're like, I guess I'll do it. But I kind of like, I don't know. If I were her, I'd be like, oh, well, whatever, nothing's going to happen here. This guy's in a relationship.

But I would get into detective mode. I'd be like, is she going to smell your dick? Like, I love that she was like, rub some clothes on it. Like, she really went into like investigative problem solving mode. I think it's kind of funny. It's also, I think she's on vacation. Like, if somebody, I'm somebody in L.A., and they were at my house being like, just smell my.

dick. I think I just react differently to it than like on vacation. I'm like, this is not my circus, not my monkeys. So she has a story. I mean, any comedian would be like, yeah, if I can smell your dick. How yeah. I can sniff things. I can sniff which uncle touched it before. Like, hmm. God, that's so funny. You like can run the, run the history of the dick. Well, Jiao Yang, thanks so much for- Thank you for having me. I've been waiting together for forever. You know, you guys are so busy with a tour and back and forth in the coast. But, like we made it happen. No, I'm really so glad you did and that you're a boyfriend.

And now I have a real man with me. Like I got myself a boyfriend and I came. Because when Ashley did my part, I had never had an orgasm from getting eating out ever my whole life. And I don't believe in. She told me that's real. I'm like, oh, okay. You know.

But I don't believe it. Okay. So we're not going to give you a vibrator today because you don't use them. I'm kidding. We want to end if you want one. But what I do want to give you is our suck and blow gel. That would all heaven. Uh, suck and blow.

I mean, it sounds like you already kind of like the taste of the smell, but this could just spice things up, you know. Nice. Have it give a little different smell of flavor. A different flavor profile. Yes, we'll even an oral enhancer. I love it. And we'll give you a vibrator if you want one. We can give you a cock ring, whenever you guys.

What do you want? You like toys? Okay, I didn't know that. I like that. Do you use them or not? We haven't used it yet. Okay. We'll talk about it.

Yeah, we would love to explore it and we will talk about it. Okay. I'll just let your mom get her hands on the phone. No, she's not touching it. Will you tell people where they can find you, upcoming shows, anything at all you want to promote? Awesome. I have a national tour going on, Australia, Asia, everywhere. It's Jiaoiencom.

And then Jiao In Summers everywhere, social media. Okay, great. And it'll be tagged, obviously, in our episodes as well. Yeah, go to your Instagram, watch your clips, get tickets to the tour, and you guys know where to find us. Girls Gotta Eat.com, Girls Got to Eat Podcast on Instagram and TikTok. I am Ash has. Ash has.com.

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