Girls Gotta Eat - All the Single Ladies

Episode Date: July 16, 2018

What do you do when you're the only single friend? We discuss losing friends, making new ones, and how to live your best life when it seems like everyone around you is coupled up. We also dish about o...ur Vegas trip, Rayna's wedding fling, and answer more listener questions about anal fetishes and rescue dogs (casual). Follow Girls Gotta Eat on Instagram @GirlsGottaEatPodcast. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 That's also a very different part of the country and it's like, oh, like this single girl. I know they think you're like, what's the word? Gonna blow their husband. It's like, you're like this Jezebel. It's like coming in. I don't want your fucking married husband's like dad bod and little dick. Just the fuck out of here. Welcome back to another episode of Girls Gotta Eat Podcast.
Starting point is 00:00:36 Welcome. We are coming to you from mouth media powered by Senheiser. Fresh off of Vegas trip. Our first trip to Vegas. Yes. had both never been to Vegas. So we just went together. I think we did it right. We like flew in 24 hours, like hit up all the things. Great dinner, great concert, flew right back home. All, all the things, though, all the Vegas things. Like, let's be clear, we didn't do any drugs, hookers, none of that. We did all
Starting point is 00:01:07 the legal things. We had a great time though. We did. We're partnering with Ticketmaster this summer for Summer of Live. Hashtag Summer of Live. Kicked off in Vegas. And, really like such a good kickoff with them. So we went there to go to the Gwen Stefani concert at Planet Hollywood Resort and Casino. Really like phenomenal concert. Oh my gosh. Okay. So regardless of what you think about Vegas, those shows are next level because they have those performers there, they have these residences. So like those stages and sets are like designed for like Gwen Stefani, Jaila, whoever it is. It's just it's next level. I've never seen a show like that. We were just in all the entire time. And like that venue.
Starting point is 00:01:47 was really intimate. We were so up close with Gwen. It starts on time. There's no opener. It's just like, bam, walk in, get your ticketmaster tickets, walk in, get right into it. It was incredible. It really was. I've never seen a show like that before, like where you see one of the greatest performers of all time. She's insane. You never think you could see somebody like that. But we do want to plug Ticketmaster. I mean, I always use them and I never really thought about, like, how easy and great it is to use them. Yeah, they're like the hustle name, of course. They're easy, they're safe and the thing that a lot of people don't know is that you can get really last minute tickets even day of show so a lot of people are like oh Beyonce sold out Drake sold out whatever it may be
Starting point is 00:02:27 and they're usually not that they told us that they were like we're usually really just always check check the app and check online the app's great to have on your phone so you can get tickets like day of and just FYI and Gwen Stefani she's about to take a break so and I think JLo's in the fall and backstreet boys and backstreet boys so much going on in Vegas I also didn't realize that this is so prevalent, but people like counterfeit tickets all the time. So Ticketmaster is a place where they guarantee you that the tickets are real. So there's no chance you're going to get to the concert and not be able to get in. Right.
Starting point is 00:02:57 So on that note, we have some other concerts we are going to this summer. The next thing we'll be doing, and you guys obviously can follow all this along on our Instagram. We are going to Chicago. I'm so excited because I'm going to find a husband. I'm so excited. You guys know Chicago is the best place for women to date. So many hot guys. not enough girls to go around.
Starting point is 00:03:16 We're going to Lollapalooza with Ticketmaster. So excited in like two weeks. Can you imagine how many guys you're going to meet? I'm going to come back with a rig on my finger. And then Raina, tell them the other concerts we're going to. I'm freaking out. I don't even know if I'm going to be able to handle this. Just take a deep breath and say it.
Starting point is 00:03:33 We're going to see Jayzie and Beyonce. Oh, my God. We're actually seeing them in Philadelphia, which I'm so psyched about because I'm a PA girl. And Drake, who has, like, I think, a residency in New York for a week. He's going to be here for a week. Yeah, so we're either going to see him at Madison Square Garden or Barclays. We're not sure yet. So we're going to Beyonce, end of the month, and Drake.
Starting point is 00:03:53 And this is another thing with Ticketmaster. Like, the fact that the tickets are verified, obviously never fake. Like, can you imagine getting tickets you roll up to Beyonce and JZ and your tickets are fake? Like, can you even imagine getting on a plane going somewhere and you're like, and your tickets. Right. Exactly. But I'm excited you guys can follow us all summer long for our summer of live tour on Instagram.
Starting point is 00:04:13 Now we're back for like a hundred. hot second for 24 hours. But I want to talk about a few things about vacation. Because we were there for 24 hours. We flew out early morning a couple days ago, got back last night. And we just laugh at everything. We make the best of any situation. So we boarded the plane totally on time. Ticketmaster. We got expedited security. Everything was great. We are like, we are crushing it. We boarded right away. We get on the plane. We sit down, sit next to each other, buckle our seat belts. And they come over their loudspeaker. They're like, everybody needs to get off the plane. That flight,
Starting point is 00:04:45 Lieutenant sounded so pissed off. She was like, y'all need to be plane. Basically, that was like, it was so, like, aggressive and just like everybody needs to get off the plane. We were like, what? We had to escort the pilot off the plane. She literally was like, we had to escort the pilot off the plane. Ashley looks to me and goes, and he was drunk.
Starting point is 00:05:02 And he was drunk. And he was drunk. Also, that's a reference to our Jared Freed episode. We say it all the time. And he was drunk. I've never heard of this in my entire life. We had to escort him. Escort the pilot off the plane.
Starting point is 00:05:13 And we had to wait for another. hour to half, two hours in the airport, and then we got back on with a new pilot. And hysterical trip there. I think it's the hardest I've ever laughed. I got on the plane with makeup, and I got off the plane without any makeup on because Ashley was making me last so hard. I was crying, tears down my face. We get to play in Hollywood, check into our rooms.
Starting point is 00:05:32 The first thing we notice is the giant bathtub. I was like, well, this is all Raina. Raina's probably going to miss the Gwen Stefani show. She's going to expend the rest of the trip in this bathtub. I looked at it and I was like, well, I'm going to drown today because this is so big. We went to the pool and you were. like, can we just go back up to the room? I need to get a bath. I need to take a two-hour bath before the show. In 24 hours, I took a shower and two baths. I had a water fiasco. There
Starting point is 00:05:57 wasn't any water in my room. I had to call for water. It was a whole thing. So I'm like late meeting Raina downstairs. And where in the planet of Hollywood, there's like this big, there's like a mall. And so Raina's like, take your time. I'm just down here in Sephora. Yeah, I just popped down to buy a $12 lip gloss from Sephora because I really like their lip gloss. This is not an ad for Sephora. I just like it. So I popped down for one second and I'm talking to the girl and she's like, I'm like, ask her to help me find this lip gloss. And I figured, like, while I'm here, I'll just have them do some makeup for me. In New York, I always go to Sephora to have them do their makeup.
Starting point is 00:06:27 Yeah, they do a great job. They do a great job. Like, we need a photo shoot for the podcast. Probably every chick that works in New York City is like a beauty blogger anyway. Yeah, they do a great job. They're great. So I'm like, no big deal. I say to the girl, I'm like, can you just give me like a little smoky eye before
Starting point is 00:06:38 I go out? So she's like, I look at this person. She has glitter all over her face, but it's okay. It's okay. I'm like, how bad could you fuck up a smoky eye? So I'm down there waiting for Ashley to come down And she's like put some eye shadow on And she's like, do you ever like pencil in your brows?
Starting point is 00:06:52 I was like a little bit She's like you know let me just put some stuff on you She's parading me around the store And she's putting like she's doing eyebrows stuff Under eye concealer She's putting like makeup on Ashley comes downstairs and I You could tell them
Starting point is 00:07:06 First of all I'm like see the lady that is doing Raina's full makeup at this point Has glitter and stars on her eyes Like Rayna I'm sorry The fact that you, and we leave and Raina is so upset. She's like, I can't believe I look like this. She's like, it's fine, you look great. I'm like, if this was you, if this was you, she's like, if this was so pissed.
Starting point is 00:07:25 They're lucky it was me and not you. But I was like, okay, yeah, you're right. But I wouldn't have let the lady with the glitter eye shadow and do my makeup. Like that was your first mistake. She would look like a Vegas show girl. Rainer was like, sure, give me a subtle smoky eye. Yeah. I'm sorry, that was on you.
Starting point is 00:07:39 Gwen Stefani could have seen me from the stage with all the lights in her face. It was so crazy. I looked like, I looked insane. Black eyebrows. I have blonde hair. Black eyebrows. I'm sorry, but you really have no one to blame but yourself. That's what you get.
Starting point is 00:07:59 You see somebody with like a lime green mohawk and you're like, can you give me some highlights? Like that you don't do that. So anyway, we looked fabulous. But no, we had a great time in Vegas. The show was amazing. We had a great dinner. And then we got up and took some picks in front of the Vegas sign and we flew back. So we're back and we're off to our next adventure.
Starting point is 00:08:18 If you guys are listening to this on the Monday that it comes out, 15, 16, I don't know, whatever. We will be in Dewey Beach. We came home for 24 hours just to like pack, take another shower, and take another vacation. We're going to Dewee Beach, Delaware, which is basically, I'm from Delaware, Dewee Beach is where I've lived there, a bunch of summers, spent a lot of time there.
Starting point is 00:08:38 It's my favorite place on Earth. I love it. Such a party town. Raina, you've been before. But you didn't have fun, which is a crazy thing. If you can't have fun there, something's wrong. So tell everybody what was wrong. Who I went with was what was wrong.
Starting point is 00:08:56 This guy is somebody who I dated. Let me explain you how boring he is. We did an entire episode about him and had to cut the episode. It is the only time we've ever done this. The episode was so boring. I've recorded a full episode on long-distance relationships. And both of the guys we dated long-distance were so boring. and we had to cut the episode, but mostly it was about this guy.
Starting point is 00:09:16 Mostly about this guy. So this is who I went to Dewey Beach with. It was so boring. Like, nobody could go see, like, live music and be in, like, a mosh pit of good-looking people and alcohol not have a good time except for the two of us. Except for the two of you guys, yeah. So we are so excited to go back. I have a couple guys lined up for us. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:09:34 Did you line guys up for ready? Last year, I met this very hot pilot in Dewey Beach, and we stayed in touch, and he's like, when do you come in this year? when he comes this year, so he's going to be there. He has some cute friends. So you've seen, I've showed you a picture. Oh, he's so hot. Smoke show. Crazy. I'm excited to make a new memory there. Good memory there. Yes. We're going to be lots of memories. But let's catch up on, we talked about last week that you went to a wedding.
Starting point is 00:09:59 Yeah. Alone. You mentioned the guy that was going to be there. Yeah. So one of my oldest friends got married. Terrible guy, but good at sex. We actually had, we dated for a little while. Yes, he was a pathological error, but probably the most, like, chemistry I've ever felt with somebody. Like, I see. I see him from across the room and I'm just like, yeah, right, you said that last week. Did you guys fuck? Yeah, we fucked.
Starting point is 00:10:18 We fucked all weekend. You know, it was sort of an interesting situation to me because everybody I grew up with is married. There was tons of pregnant people at the wedding. Like, I really was one of the only single people, like, not married with a kid at this wedding. And I saw him, like, as soon as I walked into the rehearsal dinner and he, like, walked right up to me, was like,
Starting point is 00:10:35 oh, my God, thank God you're here. And I don't have to have small talk with people anymore. Oh, yeah. And it was just, it just was nice to have, like, a pretend boyfriend for a few days. Yeah. Somebody to, like, sit next to you and make fun of people. and, you know, you know, you're going to, like, go back to the room at the end of the night. It's perfect.
Starting point is 00:10:50 I mean, it wasn't like you were there alone. No, and then we took a little road trip back to Pittsburgh on Sunday. We got to, like, hang out sober for a little while in the car, and I had somebody to put the gas in my car and fill up my tires with air. I mean, it was great. Yeah. I mean, yeah, it was really nice. It was a fun little fling.
Starting point is 00:11:07 And I'm, like, so attracted to him, and he's, whatever. So he doesn't live in the country, which is very nice for me, because I don't have to think about this now. I do like that because you've made it pretty clear. He's not like a gem of a human. So he lives in Paris. We hate Paris. Never could it be with him.
Starting point is 00:11:26 He lives in the city we hate it. So we drove back to Pittsburgh on Sunday and he gets, he drove my car. We got out of the car and he like kisses me and he's like, come to Paris. And I was like, I fucking hate Paris. It's never going to happen. That is so bad. We're the only two girls in this fucking world that a guy whispers in your ear come to Paris. And we're like, oh my God, ew.
Starting point is 00:11:45 I would never. He's like still like in my mouth kissing me. and I'm like, I would never do anything like that. Guys, also just to, if you don't know what we're referencing, you can listen to our, is it the travel episode? The travel episode. So I think the episode is called Let's Talk About Traveling, and the whole 20-minute intro is shitting all over.
Starting point is 00:12:04 It's the longest intro we ever did. We even shortened it because we like went on such a rant. Okay. All right. All right. So this is a really good opener for the episode today. Yes, the episode today. Being single at a wedding, even though you kind of had a boyfriend.
Starting point is 00:12:19 but yeah, we have gotten a lot of emails and DMs and questions from you guys about this whole, like being the single friend. Tons of emails from people saying. My friends are married. How do I make friends? I'm breaking, I feel like I'm breaking up with my best friend. Like really, all those things you guys want to know about. And so this is going to be a lot of stuff about when your friends start pairing off and what do you do and how to make new friends and all the things.
Starting point is 00:12:46 I think the reality is that as we get old, people pair off, you know, and everybody, this is a time in our lives where everybody's in these very different stages. People are planning weddings, they're buying houses, they're having kids, and everybody's sort of in these different stages. And I think that a lot of people that are single during these stages start to feel like their friends are being maybe smug and judgmental. And I think it's important to start to evaluate, are they being like this, or am I being hypersensitive? But, you know, it does make you evaluate, you know, I'm the only single girl in this situation and like how can I function in that situation?
Starting point is 00:13:19 Right. Well, let me ask you this. We know each of them pretty well in like our history, but like when you were growing up in like middle school, high school college and early 20s, like, were you mostly in relationships? Or were you mostly single or were you just kind of like equally balanced? For me, I'm equally balanced. I'm not one of those girls. It's like always a relationship. I've had, I'm very fortunate to have a lot of, have really good relationships in my life. There's several men I've been very in love with and very happy with. There's been times in my life where I wasn't in relationships. And I'm fine. way. Healthy balance. Yeah, I'm perfectly fine either way. What about you? I'm just always single. I mean, like, I don't know. I just always valued my friends.
Starting point is 00:13:59 I wouldn't be around my friends. I have a great family. Like, I never felt, I never felt that need to, like, be in this romantic relationship. And I didn't, I dated in high school. You know, I went to the dances and all that stuff. I didn't have a serious boyfriend until right at the end of high school. And then I didn't even seriously date somebody again until, at the actually the end of college. And then I really have only had one very serious relationship where
Starting point is 00:14:24 it was like, we weren't long distance, we lived together for a little bit, we were very in love. And so if I've dated a ton, you know, I'll date a few months here or there. But like for the most part, like I have a not one of those girls. It's always been in a relationship. So I am very good at making friends, keeping friends, surrounding myself with people, making new friends. When my friends start to pair off, we're going to talk about that kind of stuff too. But yeah, I think I, I don't know. You sound like you were just healthy right in the middle. But like we all know. those girls that are like they've been they bounce in relation to the relationship. They have like their next relationship in order before they like get all the first one.
Starting point is 00:14:56 Like they can't be alone. And I think sometimes those girls, they finally are alone at one point. And they're like, oh my God, I don't have any friends. Right. And I think it's hard to make friends when you are in relationship, relationship relationship because that person is your life and that's, you know, your number one priority. And I want to be sensitive to the fact that like this is different throughout the country. So we've gotten some emails being like, okay, I'm not. I don't live in New York City where everybody is single and married. Like, I live in the South and I really am the only person.
Starting point is 00:15:27 Like, I'm 30 and I'm a spinster for not being married. Right. So, like, what I can tell you is you need to move to New York City. My answer for everything. That's always advice. This happened to me. I mean, we'll get to it, but it sucks. You're like, oh, God, everybody's moving in the suburbs.
Starting point is 00:15:42 And I always said, I hate to say it, I don't want to sound really negative. I said to myself, it's like, I don't want to be in my mid-30s. Atlanta and be single. And I hate to say that, but like, it does vary by place in the country. Oh, 100%. And, like, I found, I would have a really hard time, even Pittsburgh, which is a modern, like, city, I would have a hard time living there now and being single because I just, I mean, I guess if I live there, I'd have single friends, but I don't currently have single friends. I go home and I bop around from married friend's house to married friend's house and I visit with their kids. But, like, it's not the same life and I'm sensitive to the fact that like, you know, I've gone to weddings in Kentucky and
Starting point is 00:16:22 like, women don't want you talking to their husband. Right. And things like that because that's also a very different part of the country. And it's like, oh, like this single girl. I know. They think you're like, what's the word? Gonna blow their husband. You're like this Jezebel.
Starting point is 00:16:37 It's like coming in. I don't want your fucking married husbands like dad bod and little dick. Just the fuck out of here. I'm like capable of keeping my panties on except for at this wedding last weekend. I wasn't capable of it. Yeah, but no one's trying to fuck your husband. Sorry. Right.
Starting point is 00:16:49 But I'm sensitive to the fact that it's different all over the country. It is easier to be single in major, major city. It's just because you have a bigger pool of people. It's just not an issue here. And so, I mean, I think we do have a lot of listeners in New York, and I feel very lucky to live here. You just don't have that vibe of like I'm the only single person when you live here. And that's one of the reasons why I want to live here. I think that like, I always say like I don't have any, I don't have a lot of friends that are married.
Starting point is 00:17:12 I'm no friends that have kids in New York. If I had kids or I was married, I'd probably have more friends like that. Right. I mean, you surround yourself with what year. But we just. talked about it a lot and I think that like you know you grow up and you have groups of friends now that are in that stage of life and are in different stages of life and I think it's important to sort of learn how to like navigate all those different groups of friends.
Starting point is 00:17:32 So I guess we can kind of address this what do you do when you feel like you all of a sudden wake up one day and you're like oh god everyone's engaged married kids they're all like coupled up moving on right do you ever feel like and I think I've felt like this and you probably have two, like, you're losing your friends. Yeah. So, both of my very best friends, aside from Raina, I do other friends, Kate and my other best friend, Corey, I've talked about Kate a ton. I haven't mentioned Corey too much, but Corey and I haven't met friends when you're four years
Starting point is 00:18:01 old. We've lost touch a little bit because now she's married with a kid and a stepson, and I'm not going to talk so much about her because we've always had to, like, be long-distance friends and, like, prioritize each other. So every time I go back to Delaware, she makes time for me. She's a great friend. I felt like we've lost touch a little bit when she had a baby, but not. so much even when she was like married and stuff.
Starting point is 00:18:19 And I was obviously involved in her like bachelor wedding and all these things. And I want to say like, oh my God, is it so hard to have a kid. Like you're learning so much. It's normal to lose track of friends. It's so cute because she like, she listens to the podcast because she can do it like on her, she's a teacher. She can do it during planning period, whatever. And she's like, I feel like connected to you because of that.
Starting point is 00:18:35 We're great. Kate and I did have a little bit of this happen when she met her now husband. And Kate and I were best friends in Atlanta, live next door to each other. attached at the hip. You know, we were just like, everybody knew. We're like always together. We worked at the same place for a bit. Like, just never apart.
Starting point is 00:18:55 Went to the same bar every single night. Like, it was just kind of, it's almost like one of those like, maybe you're too close, you know, because what happens when someone meets somebody? Because, like, we're a couple. And I remember the very first weekend. And we're dating, you know, we're dating people, but like we're still each other's priority. We're dating these, like, terrible guys.
Starting point is 00:19:12 You know, we're sharing all these funny dating stories. But like when she met her now husband, I remember the weekend and I could like feel it. where it was like, she didn't answer my text all weekend. I mean, she fell in love, like, quick, and they're married and he's great. He's the best. He's like husband of the year every year. And I get like that too. And I felt it.
Starting point is 00:19:26 I was like, oh, my God, this, it's happening. Like, she hasn't responded to my text all weekend. I'm like, where have you been? I felt like panicky. And, you know, they fell in love. They eventually moved in together. And we didn't, nothing. We still hung out.
Starting point is 00:19:39 I would still go over. But, I mean, she's falling in love with her husband now. And so our friendship changed and, you know, other factors too. But I think I knew and other friends were kind of getting married and things like that and moving and all these things. And I definitely knew. I was like, I just need to make more friends. And I made some other friends that like just were more single, like to party more. And that's what I actually in that time period made a group of really good guy friends because I'm like, they're not going to leave me.
Starting point is 00:20:03 You know, guys are always down to party. A bunch of like this group of like hot single six guy friends. We're all still friends today. One of the guys helped me start bros being basic. And I loved that. I like just hung out with these dudes all the time. It was really fun. It was a very fun time in my life in Atlanta.
Starting point is 00:20:15 So I look back on this kind of. of like kind of a blessing because I forced me to make new friends do new things and I couldn't rely on my best friend to be like attached to the hip all the time. And now we are closer than ever. Like we, she visits here. I go there. I stay in her house with her and her husband. And we literally are so, so, so close. And so I remember when I was starting to like just feel like we were drifting apart. I'm like, I'm so sad that like I don't think you can go from being like best friends attached to the hip to like drifting apart and ever come back to being the same. And I talked to a friend about this. She's going to come on the show. She's like a therapist type life coach medium,
Starting point is 00:20:51 all the things. And she was like, Ashley, like, I promise you like friendships like ebb and flow like this. And I'm like, no, they don't. Like we're not, we're never going to be the same. And I remember her saying like, I'm sure you will. I'm sure it'll work itself out. Because I was like, I just miss Kate. And she was right. And like we're best friends again. So I think it sucks. It sucks when all the girls are like your best friends. You had this single group of friends. All of a sudden, they're like married. And so I think I did a great job with making new friends. But like if I can say one thing, it is like you'll get your best friend back. You know, things will chill out, hopefully, but like it happened for me. Long story, but to answer your question, like, yeah, I felt like I was like losing my best friend.
Starting point is 00:21:25 It's hard when you're in it to remind yourself like these stage of life, ebbs and flows kind of thing, because like when you're in it, you're like, how am I ever going to recover from this? How are we ever going to recover from this? But all my friendships have had ebbs and flows and times when we've been closer than others. And especially like late 20s, early 30s, everybody's in these different stages of life. And I'll never forget the situation. I was in Pittsburgh. I was three of my oldest girlfriends, Molly, Donna, and Laura. Molly had like a kid that was like two years old. I think Donna was trying to get pregnant.
Starting point is 00:21:51 Laura was pregnant. And I'm sitting, they're all talking about like organic baby food, organic baby clothing and, you know, did you brass feet howling? And I remember sitting there and I was just like, my eyes like glazed over because I was like, I have nothing to contribute to this. I don't care about any of this. But these are the people I love the most in the world. I've known them my entire life.
Starting point is 00:22:09 And it's like, I thought to myself like, oh my God, are these friendships over? Is this like what we're going to talk about for the rest of our lives? And I'm like, no, we've all rebounded. I love spending time with all of them. They're able to talk about other stuff now. But, you know, it's, you're always like, oh, my God, am I losing this person? Yes. And I think that every relationship is a little different.
Starting point is 00:22:26 Like, some people really are being a dick about their relationship. Like, I had one. 100%. People lose their friends forever. People can be total dicks and they just get obsessed with their relationship and don't make time for their friends anymore. Right. And I think, like I said earlier, and I wrote this down, I want to like hammer it in.
Starting point is 00:22:42 Like, it's super important to sell. evaluate and say, are these people actually being smug and judgmental of me? Or am I being hypersensitive because I'm a little jealous and I'm lonely. And I'm lonely. And I had one. And I relied too much of my friends for my happiness and my. Which is, you should rely on your friends for happiness. But I had this one girlfriend who I'm not friends with anymore and for a number of reasons. But one of the things that she used to do all the time that would drive me crazy and really hurt my feelings was she would start a lot of sentences with my husband this, my husband bad. And I want- You get it. You get it. You have a husband. My boyfriend. I wanted to go to
Starting point is 00:23:13 some of that one night and she didn't want to go and I kept hocking her at a con because I wanted her company and she said well my goal isn't to meet guys to fuck okay I was so angry because what an asshole it was so judgmental I wasn't going there to meet men to sleep but first of all if I was it's none of your business and I'm perfectly entitled to do that as a single person but secondly I just wanted her company oh you're so much better than me because you're married it's like not only you an asshole you just slut shamed me. It's like, go fuck yourself. Right.
Starting point is 00:23:46 And I read this today, and I thought that it was a really, like, interesting quote and that I was reading an article. It just said, like, your future is no better or worse than mine, and there's no guarantees. So you might be married now, and that's great. But 50% of marriages will end this year. So use that to console yourself. They're going to break up anyway. Two million people got married this year, and 900,000 people got divorced.
Starting point is 00:24:07 Right. So, I mean, I'm happy when people are happy and I love them, but, like, I have plenty of friends. But, we're going to break up. You'll get them back. I have plenty of friends that are in relationships that have never once ever made me feel like that. And like my best friend Melanie who we've talked about on the show has been in a long-term relationship with somebody that she's like happy and stable with. And she still always wants to know about my dating life.
Starting point is 00:24:27 I see Melanie, we see her all the time. Like she's not even my best friend. I see that bitch all the time. She's great. But, you know, I want to say like she has somebody who's been in a relationship for almost seven years but has never once made me feel bad or ashamed. She always wants to know about the dates I go on. and every time I go on a date and they do something terrible a week later,
Starting point is 00:24:45 she never makes me feel like she's tired of hearing the stories. She's a good friend. But it's like, to me, that's amazing. But like it's like the person like said to me like my goal isn't to go, like, go out and sleep with people. Like don't be that kind of person. I love that point. Maybe your friend's just an asshole and like good riddons.
Starting point is 00:25:00 But, you know, I'll say this too. When I was in Atlanta, like I was kind of like the last person of like these group of girls to find somebody. And this was, you know, early 2015 where I found by the ex that I, that I speak about a lot. And it was kind of cool to be the last person because, like, I didn't feel guilty about not hanging else anybody. Like, everybody, you know, because friends get in the relationships and they feel a little bit guilty that they're neglected. I had nobody to neglect. I'm like, I'm the last one.
Starting point is 00:25:24 All those guys, all I did was hanging out with guys and then I met my boyfriend. So, like, those guys didn't fucking care. They're dudes. They don't give a fuck. So, like, I can spend, I can neglect the world and just hole up in like my love cave and nobody cares. You and Dewey alone? And my boyfriend. The three of us.
Starting point is 00:25:40 Like, it was just. oh, this is kind of the way to do it, because now there's zero guilt. There's not like, oh, I should be hanging out with so-and-so because she's single. It was like, I was the last single girl. And it was just very nice. I got to like, but then I looked back. And once I was like really in love, like really with somebody that I was like, this is a person I'm going to be with, then you do realize you're like, oh, this is why my friends wanted to spend all their time with this person because like this is amazing.
Starting point is 00:26:06 Yeah, I'm super guilty of it. I go on like three dates with somebody and I am so wrapped up in this person. You'll never hear from me again. Don't shut the fuck up. Don't even play. Don't even play like that. You didn't hear from me all weekend, did you? This entire past weekend, I don't think I even looked at my phone.
Starting point is 00:26:19 I did. Every single morning, I woke your ass up. I was like, I need an update and you responded to me. Good dick as a prison. You're a great friend. Oh, I love you. I do want to say one thing, and then I want to segue to something else. But when I broke up with my fiancé, I was 28, maybe 29,
Starting point is 00:26:37 and all of my friends right after that got married. I had like four or five weddings. not all of my friends. I had like four of my weddings that year. My three friends. I only have four friends. All of my friends started getting married and I was like a little bummed out because like you're reminded constantly.
Starting point is 00:26:52 I actually went to a wedding on my wedding date. Oh my God. That's horrible. It was rough. But I remember my mom. Like cutting yourself in the bathroom. Oh God. The guy that went with me to this wedding was an angel.
Starting point is 00:27:06 Yes. Anyways. I remember my mom who we haven't plugged in a while, but. Oh, yeah. She said to me, do not begrudge other people's happiness. And I always remember this. And it's like, you know, you might be going through something and you're sad, but like that doesn't mean that you shouldn't really genuinely be happy for others,
Starting point is 00:27:22 even if you're jealous or it makes you feel sad or reminds you of your own loneliness. And that's always stuck with me. Like, every time somebody's like gotten engaged or gotten pregnant, like, I just remind myself of that. Yeah. Well, and I've said this to you before that we talked about this. You mentioned it. You were like when you broke up with your fiance.
Starting point is 00:27:38 You were like, oh my God, like, who do I hang out with now? And for me, not knowing you for that long, you know, I definitely didn't know you back then. Like, it's crazy to me to even think of you as like not having a bunch of girlfriends. You have so many girlfriends. I've become friends with them all now. Like, you were like this great girlfriend. Like, I think that we both are. And all of our friends that have met each other, love each other.
Starting point is 00:27:59 And I think that's a sign of like being a good girlfriend. It's hard for me to picture you even like not being this great friend and making time for your friend. So like, I don't know if you were like that back then or that happened after the breakup. I mean, a lot of the friends that I've met of yours, like, you've made them since, like, in the recent years. Yeah, I don't think that I just, I mean, I was in a long-term relationship, but I didn't seek out new friends the way that, like, you do when you're single. And I want to talk about that today because I think a lot of people are like, okay, great, like, fine, I'm having friends. How do I make friends? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:27 But, yeah, I didn't really seek out new friendships. I was just content to be home. I wanted to cook him dinner. And, I mean, obviously, we had different schedules. I wanted to be awake when he got home. But I think that the minute that that that. relationship ended. I started to do a couple things. And I think what we want to talk about today is like, okay, so how do you make friends? Like you want to hang on to those old friendships and those are
Starting point is 00:28:46 always going to be the most important people in the world to you. You have a past and history with them. But like, I think it's really important to go out and make some single friends. Yeah. I always stockpile girlfriends. Like I always know I'm like, this one's going to settle down. I'm going to need another one. Like you need those backups. So like here's how to stock pile girlfriend. I'll never leave you. So the first thing that I started after like this serious breakup I went through is I decided that I was just going to start saying yes to everything. Every event that I was invited to every party, no matter how silly it seemed or stuff I never would have gone to before,
Starting point is 00:29:16 if I didn't know anybody. I just started saying yes to everything because you just never know who you're going to meet and you're certainly not going to be anybody sitting at home. Right. And a lot of these things, it's funny, like we were joking, like how to meet friends in the wild. Like a lot of these things are the same tips as like how to meet men in the wild. I mean, it's just how to meet people.
Starting point is 00:29:32 Humans, right. And it's weird after a certain age, not weird as hard, to make friends. Not for me. Yeah, but for most people that aren't as amazing as you are. It's my one talent. I'm so good at girlfriends. You're a very loyal friend. I always tell people that about you.
Starting point is 00:29:47 I'm like all the friends. She's so loyal and she's, I'm just like, you're wonderful. Like, we met each other. We both were like, oh, you're awesome. We're friends now. Like within minutes. Okay, but I think how we met is actually an interesting way to meet girlfriends. And obviously not everybody's going to be on like an Instagram influencer trip.
Starting point is 00:30:03 But I would put myself in a. immersive situations. Right. So like, yes, you can take a class and meet people, but like, take a class that's 10 classes, go to culinary school or a running club or a yoga. Because you have to see those people again. Yes, people that you have to see all the time. A yoga retreat. I love this in yoga retreat. Like, I love that idea. And a friend of mine does some of them, and they go to Costa Rica and all these cool places. And she has told me that the people that go, most people, most people go alone. They're not going with like their friend or their partner. Like, these people are all there and they all leave as like great friends. It's like,
Starting point is 00:30:36 summer camp for, I mean, remember the friends you made at summer camp? Yeah, friends for life. So it's like adult summer camp. Any kind of like adult trips. They actually have adult summer camp. Yeah, any kind of adult trips you can take. There's one in Israel called reality. I don't remember anything else about this, but they have a whole bunch of different ones. One's about religion, one's about food, ones about whatever. You're in this immersive situation with like 40 people for, I don't know, a week or two. And that, you're forced to get to know people. And that's how you and I met was like, we didn't just like go on a trip together. We had breakfast, lunch, dinner together every single day for four days. And like,
Starting point is 00:31:06 you really get to know somebody and you come back and you're like, okay, I have a relationship with this person now. Oh, yeah. And that, when I moved here, and again, not everybody, we're going to get into a lot of things here, but like not everybody has, like, the opportunities to do certain things. But I do a little mini share, like a few weekends in the summer in a house and when I signed up for it, I didn't know anybody in the house. I knew one girl friend of a friend. They knew one girl, friend of a friend. I was like, I'll do it. And every friend I asked, like, that I knew did Hampton's houses in New York. Like, they were like, I met some of my best friends. And I literally met some of my best friends. So, Two of my best girlfriends here met them first weekend in the house. I mean, I'm talking walked in, never met them before, strangers. And now we're like, you're friends with them. Like, we're all friends. I mean, my friend Meryl, like, we're like best friends. And we met last summer strangers walking in this house.
Starting point is 00:31:50 And so that, if you're in New York and those opportunities present themselves, you know, again, I know these things cost money. But it really like these people, so many people met in the house. People met their husbands in the house. Wives. Like it's those same as what you said, this like immersive experience. Like I just think keep those in your mind when they pop. up say yes. Yeah, just always keep saying yes.
Starting point is 00:32:10 And like I, even like you and I, I've become friends with all your friends. You become friends with mine. And it's like, I can't even stress this enough. Just use alcohol as a lubricant. If you are too scared to like ask somebody like, are you getting me, we be my friend? Like I, when I met Merrill, like we were hanging out on a rooftop and I was like, hey, like I would love to hang out outside of Ashley sometimes. Like, give me your phone number.
Starting point is 00:32:28 Wait, you did? Yeah. We're friends now. Do you guys hang out outside of me? Let me and show she hung out outside of you. That's fine. We're there. We're hanging out.
Starting point is 00:32:37 Like Raina, when Raina canceled her birthday party, she was like, text show she. And I'm like, you know what? I will. We're going to be friends outside of you because you canceled your fucking birthday party. But I think a thing there is like just a mindset thing of like, do not feel weird.
Starting point is 00:32:48 And also don't feel weird to ask a girl if she wants to hang out. You want to get drinks, coffee some time. Also, don't take it personal if they don't. Because we're all busy. And I remember one night I met these two girls out with my friend, a guy friend of mine named Aaron. He had these two friends of his. Loved these girls.
Starting point is 00:33:03 Loved them. This is six months ago. not seen those girls since. I would love to hang out with them again. I'm just busy. They're busy. We'll trade text every once in a while. Hey, girl, what are you doing tonight? It just hasn't lined up. And, like, none of us are taking it personal. I really love them. And it's been months and months and months. So don't be scared to ask girls to hang out. Don't be taken personal if it doesn't work out the first time. I like that you said that. And I think that like it's never been easier to connect with people in the world. So like maybe you don't say anybody's phone ever, but like, I don't
Starting point is 00:33:30 respond to their Instagram stories. Just keep people like top of mind for you and just like connect with people, be a part of... Seriously, force yourself into their life. I have a friend here in the city. I don't think we ever met in person, but we followed each other on Facebook because it was years ago, and I think I was in the city. It was like, hey, girl, do you want to get a drink? Like, I've had people that we've met, I met girls out, and then we didn't really exchange numbers that night, but we had a great conversation. They've hit me up on Instagram. Like, I don't think it's ever. It's just,
Starting point is 00:33:54 like, dating, too. And I think one of my main things is, like, definitely use other people to get through to, like, the people that might be your lifelong friends. Like, you might not love this one girl, but, like, you might like, some. of her other friends. So if she's like, hey, I'm doing a little girl's night, go and like meet the other girls. And like maybe you don't really connect with her. She's not like best friend material, but her friends might be. And I used to set up in Atlanta, I would set up like these big girls' dinners. Like girls that kind of like had cool jobs and we were in PR or whatever. And I would do those and people would meet at those. So like if you have that opportunity to do that or have a friend do
Starting point is 00:34:26 that. What does Lindsay do? Yeah. I think it's called the morning meetup. That's what that's how it started, right? She moved here and she wanted girlfriend. So she started this thing that's fucking awesome now and blows up and like people probably meet and become friends for life at that shit. I'm amazed by her honestly. She was like, I want friends. And she created this giant meetup group of the most like badass females on the plate. Everybody is not true.
Starting point is 00:34:48 What's the call? Should we plug it? I think it's called the morning meetup. I'll Google it while we're doing this. But she's another person I met on a like a trip and we were together like an intensive amount of time and we'd become super, super close. So I think that like, like the, takeaway for me is like, yes, you just have to accept that there's going to be these ebbs and flows in your
Starting point is 00:35:08 relationships, and those relationships will be there, but you might feel a little better about the ebbs and flows if you're putting yourself in situations to make other friends. And it's awkward and uncomfortable. Like, I can't believe that you went to a shorthouse by yourself, did not know anybody. Like, that is brave. Well, and I want to say this too. I think that we all have insecurities. Not everybody is super outgoing. People are more shy. You know, not everybody operates like I do. I don't operate like some people do. We're all different. But like girlfriends have always been so easy to me because there's so much less rejection involved. You can have a million friends, so it's not this thing of, like, you hitting on a guy
Starting point is 00:35:41 or something, and he might be like, oh, my God, I don't like you. I don't have girlfriends. Like, you can have a million friends. You can only have one partner. I mean, you know, whatever, traditionally. So I always, I'm like, I don't have that fear of rejection with a girl. And, like, you know, it feels totally different to me. So I'm kind of like, if I think a girl's cool, like, I am happy to just be, like, we
Starting point is 00:36:03 meet it somewhere. I'm happy to be like, let's hang out. I mean, usually it happens organically. But, and I think, you know, a little thing, the Bumble friend thing, BFF. Do you know who's done that? No, but I know a lot of people that use meetup. I know that's a lot. Have you ever, do you know what meetup is? It's a website. And basically, there's a million categories. And it's basically these online groups that like meetups for, there's culinary, there's music, there's exercise. And it's just these online communities and they just create like meetup situations. And if you really, all else fails, I think this is the best thing you can do in any new city just because, like, it's already, like, created for you.
Starting point is 00:36:41 Right. And so there's a built-in community of people that love to, like, get together and cook Indian food together, like all these niche random things. Right. But it's a really good way to meet people. And I'll just throw it out because I always do. I got to be a crazy dog lady. If you have a dog, you can always be friends.
Starting point is 00:36:58 Like, two of my good girlfriends, like, we've already taken a trip together. We all three met at the dog park different times. I met both of them separately. Now they're best friends. They live together. They met at the dog park. We're all good friends. So a lot of this, like we said, is the same as meeting guys.
Starting point is 00:37:12 I mean, I see the same people walking my dog all the time. Like, it wouldn't be weird to be like, hey, we should like, you ever go to the dog park? We should go together sometime. Like, these things aren't weird. That's, those are the thoughts I think you need to clear out of your mind. Like, this girl's going to think I'm weird. Like, we all want friends. Right.
Starting point is 00:37:28 Nobody's ever, like, called their friend after the dog park and be like, this girl's so weird. I mean, she asked me if I wanted to like get a drink. It's so crazy. Right. Can you believe how crazy she is? Like, I'm always, I mean, I think in your head it's like scary and I don't know. I'm always a little nervous to go on press trips because like I don't know who's going to be on them, but I go. And I never come home without a bunch of friends.
Starting point is 00:37:47 Right. Like we always come back to alcohol. We posted this meme on our account how girls when they're drunk in the bathroom, like literally become best friends. And I was like, dude, get away from me. Don't even breathe in my direction. Any situation that's like a group of girls and there's like alcohol involved, like you're going to leave with some new friends. Yeah, 100%. And it's so much easier to connect with people with social media.
Starting point is 00:38:08 Like, you met a girl out at something. You want to be friends with her? Just start commenting little cute stuff on her Instagram. Think about what a guy would do. Slide to those DMs. Just do that. All right. I think that we did this topic justice.
Starting point is 00:38:21 And the last thing I just want to throw in is that just never think you're too old to make new friends. Like you can have some people stay friends with their childhood friends forever. They're high school friends. They're college friends. Like my mom met one of her very best. friends at 45. I met tons of new friends in my 30s. Someone message us and she was like, I feel like I'm outgrowing my childhood friends. Like I think she has this, maybe where she grew up, it's more normal to kind of stay friends with these same people forever. It's like you could literally
Starting point is 00:38:45 make a whole new batch of friends at like 35, 45, 50 years old. Right. Your like friendship group is never like a finished product. Yes, exactly. Right? It's like fashion. It just keeps changing. It keeps growing. Um, okay. We got a lot of emails about this. So I'm glad that we talked about it. Yes. To wrap up the episode today, we actually are going to go back. back into our emails. We're mining them. You guys sent us so many great emails. I just want to say tons of you send us emails about sexual fetishes. We're going to do an episode about sexual fetishes because I've never actually read all of our emails at once. I was like, holy shit. You did. You did some work, girl, so thank you.
Starting point is 00:39:19 You went in and like, you deep dove. I mind that. But hundreds of emails about sexual fetishes and like, is this weird? Is this not weird? So anyways, we're going to do a whole episode about that. We want to have a porn star on. Yes, 100%. So if anyone's listening or knows a porn star, seriously, we're being serious. Yeah, absolutely. Because I want, like, real sex
Starting point is 00:39:36 tips from a porn star and, like, I mean, really what I want to put out in the world, like, nothing is weird. If you like something, it's not weird. I mean, I've had some people ask me to do some weird stuff. Whatever. You want to start with this question? Yeah, so I'm not ready to do mine yet because I'm emotional.
Starting point is 00:39:49 So we have a couple questions. Okay, so I'll just start with this question. It's one that I pooled. Okay, hit me with this. This is a long email, so I'm going to paraphrase parts of it. But this girl wrote us and said, have you ever run into a man who is an anal lover.
Starting point is 00:40:04 Probably the best looking man I've ever seen. We've been on tender. Makes money. Great smile. Incredible style. Fourth date, he invites me back. Hold on, Rayna. A smile that could make me wet from a mile away.
Starting point is 00:40:16 Did you mean? I'm paraphrasing. I love this girl already. Okay, sorry, keep going. I just like that she said that. Keep going. Paraphrase. I'm glad you slept in it.
Starting point is 00:40:24 Fourth date, he invites me back to his place. And of course I say yes. I've wanted this since I saw his picture. We start getting busy. immediately goes for the booty. I'm not talking a grab, but a full finger in the hole. I mean, at this point, I'm thinking how hot he is and how much I've wanted this. Next thing I know, we're naked and he's trying to, oh, this is so dirty, ride my butthole without lubricant. Ride my ass sans lubricant. What are we trying to hold back now?
Starting point is 00:40:51 Yeah, I'm bashful now. Okay. No words. I get up, collect my clothes, run out of his apartment, but ass naked because in all hindsight I just needed to get the fuck out of there. He still messaged me to this day talking about how he wants his dick in my ass and hasn't hooked up with a girl and hooked up with a girl last night. She goes on to say how he's messaged other girls.
Starting point is 00:41:12 This is the part that I have a problem with it, so I'll read it if you don't feel comfortable with it. Okay, she said he still messages me to this day talking about how he wants his dick in my ass and how he hooked up with a girl last night and it was so hard he made her bleed. I'm by no means of prude, but some of the shit he says is the crudest I've ever heard.
Starting point is 00:41:26 long story short she's basically asking if this is like a fucking psychopath right so to me this is like a couple different things it's you know is this a weird sexual fetish because she's saying like he's a fucking psychopath for liking anal and when do you start asking for these things and then the third part of this is the weirdest obviously the messaging I don't know why she hasn't blocked him at this point right right off the bat she's she's like you know I we're hooking up and I'm so horrified that he's trying to do anal like what a psychopath and personally
Starting point is 00:41:56 I don't like, of all the fetishes in the world, this is like the most tame, butt stuff? Well, okay, hold on. We went on a couple dates and everything's seen more. Okay, so basically it's just the first time they get back to his place. I go back to a guy's place the first time he puts his finger up my butt and starts trying to have anal. I'm also running out of their horrified. But that's just me. I think that's so bold and like you're probably a little crazy. We don't disagree on the fact that like I think that I wouldn't call butt stuff a sexual fetish. I just think it's stuff people like. It's not like he wanted her to peg him. Do you think
Starting point is 00:42:27 but yes, on a first date? Only anal at once have anal all the time is a fetish? It can't come from vaginal sex I think. Yeah, I would find it odd and it would be uncomfortable. But I've certainly been with guys that wanted to do that all the time. I don't want to do it. But yes, when you introduce the sexual fetish, I think,
Starting point is 00:42:45 is like a little crazy to do it on the first date. And by a little, I mean extremely crazy. A finger up the butt, I don't think is that crazy on a on the first time you sleep. A lot of people like that. I don't like it, but a lot of people don't mind it. It's also, like, I would need more details. Like, was there any other foreplay?
Starting point is 00:43:01 I mean, is this, like, he went in for one kiss and then finger up the butt? Like, get the fuck out of here. And, like, that text is so I'm over that. Right. The part of it that makes him a psychopath is he's sending her this stuff, but I would ask myself, and I, I don't know this girl and I don't know this guy, why has he thought the door is open to send you these text messages? You'd have to be very crazy to be sending a basically a stranger who you don't know at all text messages about your current sex life.
Starting point is 00:43:28 Right. And so, again, I never want to like blame a girl or blame anybody without knowing the whole story. But like my immediate reaction reading is like, this is a bad guy and like stay away. And he's just trying to get whatever he can get with whoever he can get. But I don't know. What's her question? Is he terrible? I think so.
Starting point is 00:43:44 Boy, bye. To recap, butt stuff is not a crazy sexual fetish to me. when you introduce fetishes, I think you should talk about it. I would never like, I know a lot of guys like a finger in the ass. I wouldn't do it without asking. Anal should definitely be talked about. It should be talked about. It's not a hole that I like.
Starting point is 00:43:58 Right. You should talk to me about it. But the thing that makes him like Jeffrey Dahmer, I like eat people's body, serial killer, is that he's sending her all these things. But I'm not. I made this girl bleed. No, thank you. Block his phone number.
Starting point is 00:44:10 I don't know. All right. Next. Oh, okay. I feel like I'm getting very emotional. Okay, guys, we got this email. I've been crying about it since it came through. Are you already crying about this?
Starting point is 00:44:27 I've cried about it. I can't stop thinking about it. So we did the dog episode and it went totally off the rails, rain at salmon, all the things. And we didn't get to talk about when you break up, who gets the dog, all that kind of stuff. So someone did email us and she was like, I wanted to follow up on that.
Starting point is 00:44:42 I wish you guys would do that part two because I need it in my life. And this email is very long. I'm going to try to paraphrase it. She had a boyfriend for three years. She wanted a baby. He wasn't super unbored, but he was like, well, you know, I'm not against it. And it'll happen eventually, you know, in a couple years. So they decided to get a dog, which happens a lot.
Starting point is 00:45:02 And it does prepare you for a baby in some ways. And placate your partner. So they got the dog. She said, I found the adoption fair. I picked the dog. I did all the dealings with the rescue, all the paperwork, everything. She never had a dog before, all this stuff. So she kind of felt like she was going to be doing all the work.
Starting point is 00:45:16 So he actually paid the rescue a couple hundred bucks for the dog, but her name was on all the stuff. And then she obviously fell in love with his dog. She registered the dog as an emotional service animal so she could take him everywhere. It's a small dog. She said I was super obsessed. I've never been more in love with one thing. And the guy broke up with her out of the blue. She said one month later, I came home from an awful workday.
Starting point is 00:45:41 He had already packed his things and announced that he never wants kids and he's moving out. and he starts to move his stuff out and then his dad shows up. This sounds like a fucking little fuck boy. Like, do you know who my father is? Like, you know, his dad shows up, like, all lawyered up and is like, you need to give us the dog. And so she's like, she's getting dumped. He's moving out. She has to like hand over the dog.
Starting point is 00:46:03 And she was like, I was so broken that I, of course I just gave him. I don't know what to do. And like the dad's there. Your fucking dad, you brought your dad into this to, like, bully her into giving the dog. And so the story. gets even worse. She begged to see the dog for two weeks. He kept ignoring her, making promises saying he was going to bring her over or whatever. She actually got a lawyer and sent him a letter. All this stuff's going on. It just sounds like a ton, a ton of drama. Now the guy sounds like he has a new
Starting point is 00:46:30 girlfriend. The dad has called her still threatening her. The lawyers, I don't know. There's all these different things. Her, what's your question? She says to this day, I'm in tears every time I think about my dog. I feel sick every time I think about him and this guy and his new girlfriend hanging out with the dog. I miss my dog so much. I hate that he finally gets her. Is there a question? I try to keep it together. Yeah, she's like, should I give up? Like, do I, should I keep trying to get the dog back? To me, that's like somebody asking, like, should I give up on my child?
Starting point is 00:46:56 Okay. Right? Yeah. All right. I have thought about this long and hard. And we talked about Kate at this episode. This happened to Kate. They had her, she had a dog with her boyfriend, that she had on her, a terrible guy. Basically, they had joint custody, which is terrible, terrible idea. And he stole the dog and was like, you're never going to see the dog again. So I consulted with Kate because I felt like we were on the same page about this. Here is my advice. I think that it's the hard part here is like feeling so disrespected and like so taken advantage of and like you got dumped and he gets a dog and he like has like ruined your life. Also this person like walked in the door and just like leveled her life. I can't believe he was like
Starting point is 00:47:32 and you can keep the dog because I'm breaking up with you for the worst reason ever. Like I don't have a family and here's my dad and I'm moving out. I cannot. It's a terrible person. I think there's a couple things you need to tell yourself before you move on. I think this is a terrible human, karma will come back to bite him. This is an awful person and you need to take the high road. I think that you need to tell yourself that the dog's going to be okay and that he's taking care of the dog. The dog's going to have a nice life. Dogs do not think the way the humans do. The dog, if you saw her again, he would love her and be want to be with her, but the dog is not crying every day. They're just built differently. If the dog's being taken care of, the dog is fine.
Starting point is 00:48:06 I think she should adopt on their dog that needs saved. There's plenty of dogs that need homes. they're going to be killed and kill shelters. Like I think the move is to get another dog, know in your heart you have saved two dogs lives at this point and have a dog that you will love and that is not tied to all this drama and just let that drama like leave your life. And that's what Kate did.
Starting point is 00:48:30 Kate got a new dog. She went to the shelter and found the cutest little dog like cowering in the corner and she still has her. Her name is Olive. And I think she, as hard as it is, like needs to tell herself like this is a bad person, this is a horrible thing that happened to me, the dog is going to be fine, and I think she needs to get a new dog. And then what a great person.
Starting point is 00:48:50 You know, now you've saved these two dogs. I think it's such a horrible story, but, I mean, do you agree? I think I don't think she's going to be able to get, I think if even worse, best case scenario, she somehow gets the dog back. She's always going to be looking over her shoulder. Like, is the dad going to come back and get him or like joint custody is a terrible idea. That's stressful and dramatic too. And this reminder of this person that broke your heart.
Starting point is 00:49:10 And I just think it's like the dog is. fine, I'm going to like save another dog. I mean, I guess I don't have an advice in this situation I've ever had a dog. I mean, I did have somebody walk in the door one morning and say, I don't love you anymore, and I'm leaving you, and then his parents did show up and pack the entire apartment up and destroy my life. But
Starting point is 00:49:25 I guess the only thing I can relate to this is like he owed me a lot more money after we broke up, and I thought, like, if I could go after the money and we could be embroiled in this legal thing, and it could be this thing that ties me to this person who I fucking hate forever. Or I can honestly just like walk away from it and I'll make more money.
Starting point is 00:49:41 Right. But, like, money is not the same thing as, like, a pet. It's not the same, but I appreciate what you say. And, like, because you felt like, how does this person get to do this to me? And then they have this thing of mine that I am entitled to. And it's very different. Money and not even comparable money and, like, a dog that you love. But, like, same concept of, like, it hurts.
Starting point is 00:49:58 And not only hurts you feel like taken advantage of and so shit all over, but, like, I don't know. I, that's what I would do. Find a dog that's in a kill shelter. Like, you know, feel really good about what you're doing and know that, like, your ex-boyfriend is a fucking terrible human. and I want to fucking murder him. Right. And his dad.
Starting point is 00:50:13 So the advice here is hire a hitman. Murder everyone. Kill the dad. Frame the son. Take the dog. Done. We answered your question. Okay, I think we have to wrap up for the day.
Starting point is 00:50:25 Well, guys, just to wrap up, friendships ebb and flow, go out and make new friends. Make new friends, but keep the old one of silver. Do you know how many times I've wanted to say this today? I can't even tell you how many times this has been like regurgitating up my body. Oh, thank God you said it. We made it. Anyways, thank you guys for listening. Please continue to put us in your Instagram stories and tell your friends about us.
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