Girls Gotta Eat - BJs, Butt Stuff, and Squirting with Porn Star Asa Akira

Episode Date: April 12, 2021

We have the one-and-only Asa Akira, award-winning adult film star and director, join us to discuss a whole (hole?) range of topics from how she got started in porn, to whether her on-screen orgasms ar...e real, to blowjobs, anal, squirting, b-hole bleaching, and more. She also opens up to us about how working in porn has affected her relationships/marriages. And we're catching up on Rayna's recent rendezvous and Ashley's missed connection. Hope you enjoy! Follow Asa on Instagram at @asahole. Follow us @GirlsGottaEatPodcast, Ashley @AshHess, and Rayna @Rayna.Greenberg. Check our website for show dates and merchandise. Thank you to our partners this week: Function of Beauty: Go to functionofbeauty.com/gge to get 20% off your first order. Ritual: Get 10% off your first 3 months at ritual.com/gge. Buffy: For $20 off your first purchase of $80 or more, visit buffy.co and enter code GGE. HelloFresh: Go to hellofresh.com/gge12 + code GGE12 for 12 free meals including free shipping. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 But like, I feel like I'm like, there's so much to porn, you guys. Like, you have to take photos before and get your makeup done. No, but there is. There's like a lot. The downside to porn is the glam. I can't. Welcome back to another episode of Girls Gotta Eat. Welcome back.
Starting point is 00:00:33 We're in Dewey Beach. We're in Dewey Beach. Hunched over one mic. Back to our roots. Three years ago, hunched over one mic. How is it sound, guys? Can you tell? Can you tell this is the first 10 episodes, the one mic?
Starting point is 00:00:44 All I need is one mic. No, because remember my. my voice was so weird the whole first like season of the show because I was sick the whole winter. Yeah. And then you got new teeth. I got a list and I stopped being sick all the time. Okay. Um, have you guys gotten your Florida tickets yet? Uh, we, we wouldn't know. We have been asking for updates. They could be sold out. At this point, just check the website. We literally don't know. Literally don't know. That's Florida. Florida's like, fuck around and find out. They're like, come or don't, whatever.
Starting point is 00:01:17 Maybe there'll be people here. Maybe they won't. But we'll be in Florida. We'll be in Florida in like three weeks now. Miami, May 2nd, Tampa, May 5th, Orlando, May 6th. Get those tickets at Girls Gotteupypodcast.com. If they're there, we wouldn't know. Ashley, every day is like, do we have counts yet?
Starting point is 00:01:34 I'm like, I don't know. She texted our agent. That's how things work. We don't know. No, it's going to be amazing. We think. We think. We'll be there.
Starting point is 00:01:41 We will be there. It's happening no matter what. If you guys come or you don't, we just know there. will be a show. Two shows. Six shows. Oh, six total. Anyway, get those tickets at girls' gutty podcast.com.
Starting point is 00:01:54 Yes. And then all the other shows, as we told you guys, we will keep you posted on dates. We're trying. Okay. I was thinking about vaccinations and like how like we've gotten waxed, you know? And I just have to tell you I've been personally terrorized by our audience this week. The meme. There is a meme about being vaxed and waxed.
Starting point is 00:02:12 You're telling me. Ashley, you're telling me. I'm being terrorized by our audience. So I can't even get into my DMs. There's so many people sent me it. How's it feel? Anytime a home alone or croissant meme goes viral, I brace myself. So I got to tell you this.
Starting point is 00:02:28 That meme, someone DMed it to me. The meme is basically like this guy, this guy tweeted, you guys have all seen it by this point. And he was like, this lady on a plane just said she's vaxed and waxed and ready to get some action this weekend. This is the kind of energy we need the summer, yada, yada. It couldn't have been a more perfect storm because you had just said you got your first wax. I had just gotten vaxed and people went crazy. So one of our listeners DMed it to me before it went on Betches, right?
Starting point is 00:02:53 So it was like on some low-key account. I posted on my story. It got shared 700 times. I saw it in your story and I can't believe she's doing this to me. That was some random meme account. And then it went on Betches and then it went apeshit. And my notifications were just people tagging you but also like girls got to eat. I was like, this is my mantra for life because I had just gotten my pussy waxed.
Starting point is 00:03:15 I'm talking that I just walked in the door from my sugaring and someone sent me that meme and I was like, this is my bio for life. Are we both faxed and waxed? Vaxed and wax, baby. So guys, I had my second wax of my life. But it's so unbranded for me too because everybody knows that I tried to booty call a guy by saying that like I just got my pussy waxed and a negative COVID test. So like I've been out here vaccine and waxing. Vaccine waxing.
Starting point is 00:03:41 I invented. You're the original waxed vaxed vaxer. Yes. There's nothing better. Like, there's no better line. Well, I got to tell you, I don't know if I'm ever going to be vaxed again because I was crawling up the walls. It was hard to take. What? I'm not tough enough to get waxed. I got to tell you, I went maybe three, four days ago at this point. And I was thinking of you because it really is painful.
Starting point is 00:04:09 And if I'm just so used to it and every time I go, they, not every time, but a lot of the asses, Aestitians will be like, esteticians, astetitians. I said ass so hard. Listen, when they wax your ass, that's what they're called. So they are always like, okay, deep breath. I'm like, I'm good. Like, your girl's been doing it without the breath. I don't, I just, I ask to grip something.
Starting point is 00:04:31 So I use a towel. And sometimes, like, I've been to places where they have stress balls, which is great. But like, I don't need to do a bunch of Lamas breathing. Like, it hurts. And then once they get the first pussy lip out, then the rest is like easy, breezy. Oh my God. I'm uncomfortable just hearing about it. But thinking about you, like, not if I having done it or you had one wax in your life and then you got sugared, I was like, how did Raina even do this?
Starting point is 00:04:52 I had the coolest girl. She was awesome. I told her it was like my first time. And she was each one, all 15 strips. She was like, she's like deep breath in, deep breath in, huge breath out. And like, I was screaming. She's like, girl, I crawl up the walls when people do this today. So anyways, every week.
Starting point is 00:05:06 That's what we talk about. It feels great. It looks great. It got a lot of use. Yeah. Do you want to talk about your trip? Yeah. Also, today we have Asa Kira on.
Starting point is 00:05:13 She's a porn star. we are talking even more about buttholes and vaginas in this episode. It's all on brand today. I feel like also would be so proud of me for what happened. So I went to L.A. to see a guy who's great. He's great. I don't know anything else to say about him. He's great.
Starting point is 00:05:27 But we really used my waxed fadge. And first of all, I went to L.A. to meet this guy to see this guy. And my dad was like, I'm so glad that you would date. Like, I wish you didn't have like flat of the West Coast to get laid. I was like, are you? Your dad did not say that. Are you? I'm not getting roasted by my 73-year-old.
Starting point is 00:05:44 Dad. I'm sorry. Your dad did not utter the words get laid. Fly to the West Coast to get late. He didn't say that to you. Yes, he did. Did you hang up and block his number? No, because you know he listened to the episode this summer where I was like, I like,
Starting point is 00:05:57 it's disgusting. He has heard terrible things. I just don't need to hear my dad talk about me getting laid. Yeah, me either. Me either. Oh, my God. I know. I can't believe you roasted me so hard, too.
Starting point is 00:06:09 And I was like, you're right. Listen, you're not wrong. Did the girl who had DMed him. that you need to shoot your shot with Raina. Has she figured this out yet? Yes, she'd DM me. It was like, oh my God. I love it.
Starting point is 00:06:21 She's the, I'm never going to, like, say anybody's name that I'm dating. So, like, she's the only person that knows. God damn it, girl, I swear to God, we'll sue you, Kardashian style. So I'm just kidding. No, I'm not. You know what? I will go Chloe Kardashian on your ass so hard if you release this name. First, I'm not, we're not going to give a platform to that right now, but that was
Starting point is 00:06:41 fucking nuts. Don't get me started. I did get you started. We were at lunch at the same. Starbird. And Ashley was like, you know what? If you didn't have your whole diatribe in the car, that's what we were going to talk about. Which can't say it enough. She looked great. That's exactly what I thought Chloe had Ashley's body would look like in bad lighting. That's exactly what I... Whatever. She looked great. She looked 10 years younger. She looked amazing.
Starting point is 00:07:00 That was crazy. Yeah. Anyway, you had a great time. I had a great time. The trip was really wonderful, but I wanted to tell you I did something. It is probably the craziest thing that's ever happened to me. I gave three blow jobs to completion in 12 hours, Ashley. 12 hours. I can't. We have a meme alert. We need a sound event. Here's Raina. Rana. I just want to be kind of private about this. Also, Raina, I blew him three times to completion. Lizzie. I'm being proud on who he is. I, listen, we only had sex twice on Saturday. And then I got my period. Then he did something nice for me on Saturday night. And I was like, I'm not going to not thank him. Yeah. I gave him a blowjob Saturday night. And then I gave him two blow jobs Sunday morning.
Starting point is 00:07:53 to completion. I gave two blowjob before brunch on Sunday. What? Hold on. What? I just love an Oprah one. That's crazy. Thank you. Good for you.
Starting point is 00:08:05 I sucked a dick twice and we went to the farmer's market. You love a farmer's market and to suck a dick. That sounds like a great day for you. It was an amazing Sunday. So that's my greatest accomplishment. I told him I haven't sucked a dick to completion more than once in the last eight years and he like doesn't believe me. Because you did such a good job.
Starting point is 00:08:25 Yeah. three times, 12 hours. Oh my God. Yeah. So that's how much trip was. I'm back. It was great. I mean, he must have a good dick.
Starting point is 00:08:33 He laid it down. I'm proud of it. Okay. Stuff that came out of his mouth is why I started the second stick. Love to see it. We were planning a little girl's trip with Kate Kennedy is like one of the people, her and I just got to talking about going to visit another friend of ours. And it started because she had a dream about it.
Starting point is 00:08:50 She had a dream that we went to go visit Grace at Wood in Charleston. And she texted me. She was like, oh, this weird dream. And I was like, let's actually do that. And so I was like, I'll fire up the group chat. And I was like, hey, Grace, like, we want to come visit you. Do you have any blackout dates? We want to come to Charleston.
Starting point is 00:09:06 And don't expect Raina to jump in on this. She's getting dick down in L.A. right now. And then Ashley said, I speak for both of us. And I said, I speak for both of us as a couple. And then Kate goes, it all started because I had a dream. And I go, damn it, I should have started this group chat with Kate had a dream. And Kate goes, it's okay. at least Dick Down made the lead copy.
Starting point is 00:09:26 And I just love her so much because she's so funny and like well-spoken. Like I love the way she phrases things. That's your best friend. So I'm happy that your best friend. It's so funny. Your best friend, Kate. Do you even want me to come to this trip? You get so jealous of her.
Starting point is 00:09:40 I don't like it when you other friends. Okay. So Raina got Dicked down and I have a story. This isn't as hot and sexy. But right now. But I don't know about it. We're in Dewey. My brother's getting married this weekend like in a few days.
Starting point is 00:09:54 So we'll talk about it on next week's episode. We actually have a wedding-themed episode next week. So we're super excited about it. So we'll kind of, we'll recap it more. But anyway, so we're here. So I drove here and I drove here solo. You were coming back. You were on a red eye.
Starting point is 00:10:07 You were like not going to join me. So I went solo. If you guys know, I have my 2003 Nissan Xera in the city. And it should not be running. It's a classic. But I am going to keep driving it until the wheels fall off. I'm fully committed. So it has issues from time to time.
Starting point is 00:10:22 It's like a 17. 18 year old car. So I'm not going to get into this whole story, but I had one of these issues arise as I was trying to leave the city to get to Delaware. The details aren't important. It's a long story, but it culminated in me sitting on my street, like in the East Village with my car packed up, ready to go, ready to get to Delaware. Car wouldn't start. I'm sitting there with the hood popped waiting for someone to come help me for about 10, 15, 20 minutes, maybe even. And, and, And as I'm sitting there, hood popped, this, like, hot guy walks by. And he's looking at me.
Starting point is 00:11:00 And he gets a little bit close to the car. And he's like, hey, is everything okay? Like, can I help you? Which I was just like, oh, like, shovelry's not dead, you know? And I started to try to like tell him. I was like, oh, my car died. I was trying to explain it. I was trying to be cute about it, whatever.
Starting point is 00:11:12 And he was like, don't worry. It happened to me recently, too. And I drive a 2020, like a newer car. And I'm thinking, like, what kind of car is roasting? He's roasting your car. He's like, don't feel bad that your car so old. And then I go, I mean, yeah, this is an 03. It's a classic.
Starting point is 00:11:23 And we have a little bit of like banter. And then he was like, okay, we'll just make sure you were okay. And I was like, okay. And so right now I'm putting on a misconnection for that guy. What if you look like? It's hard to tell with the mask. Okay, how tall is he what's his body build? Probably like six foot.
Starting point is 00:11:42 Okay. Cute guy from what I could tell. What color hair? Like brown hair. Did he have facial hair? It's hard to tell. have an animal with him. No animal. Damn it. Okay. So you know the summer I put out a call for a Bradley Cooper lookalike that lives near Domino Park. Yes. So if you were walking around the East Village a week
Starting point is 00:11:59 ago now at this point and saw a girl with her 2003 Xtera hood popped and had an interaction, just damn me. And if you girls see a six foot tall man with brown hair and maybe some facial hair in New York City because that's not everybody. Let Ashley know. Ask him if he if his car is a 2020. Oh, that is a good piece. Okay. That Do we know any other information about him? That's all we got. That's all, no. I'm trying to think.
Starting point is 00:12:25 You might not even be, I just want to, you know, we had a moment. No, I want to find him now. That would be the most meek cute thing in the entire world. The East Tara brought you together. You and the guy. I know. I will walk the streets of the East Village. Look at this guy.
Starting point is 00:12:35 All right. What else are we doing? Yeah. Literally nothing else to do. What if he takes his mask off? I'm not interested. What if you get masked? He wasn't wearing a hat too, was he?
Starting point is 00:12:44 I don't remember. It all happened so fast. And, you know, normally I would have tried to like, like, talk, flirt, but it was just, it was a mess. I was super stressed. My car's not working. I was like waiting on somebody. It was a whole thing. So, missed opportunity. And that is my misconnection. And that's, that's all I got. We will have more of a fun recap next week. I don't really have any wrecks. Do you have anything new? Girl, you know I'm hitting the docks hard. Another doc? Another doc. I'm trying to find something fictional that I can watch because it's actually
Starting point is 00:13:14 getting embarrassing every time somebody's like, what are you watching? I'm really excited to start to show The Nevers on HBO. It's about, you might like it because it's Victorian and I'll like it because it's magic. It's about these Victorian women that like get magical powers all of a sudden. These five Victorian women. And that's real. It's real. So that's happening right now.
Starting point is 00:13:31 That's in 2020. These Victorian women. So people are doing this. They're wearing bonnets in 2021 and they also get magic powers and also it's real. I can tell you, I rewatched that video of you and me so many times last week. People were like coming out of the woodwork like this made my day. This is on our Instagram by the guy. if you guys are. You asked such serious questions about this technology. And I really was like,
Starting point is 00:13:54 why is she like hounding me so hard about this? The moment I pause and I just go, Ashley. Yeah, everybody was like when Raina said Ashley. It's my favorite moment of the podcast. Yeah. So if you guys missed this, this was a moment of the podcast last week, but we posted the video on our Instagram. So go check it out. It was, it's a classic moment for us. It's my favorite moment with you. It's almost as good as when you sent me the wine or when I admitted to you that it was zucchini bread instead of banana bread. Those are my three favorite moments. What about Chejj? Someone wrote this is this moment of Ashley being wrong is second only to Shesh.
Starting point is 00:14:26 Ashley's only wrong about food things and apparently when I watch a fictional series. But anyways, check out the one. It's great. My jock rack, there's a documentary on Hulu about WeWork. It's really good. It's like a shitty place to work, right? They say it's like a nightmare. They say it's a nightmare, but also it's just like Wii work.
Starting point is 00:14:42 I mean, if you guys know anything about it, they were going to do an initial, like they're going to do an IPO. They were going to go public. And then the reports they released, basically let people know that they were like falsifying their profits and they weren't profitable at all. And the whole company basically like goes under. So they, they're going to file for an IPO. And then basically they went from a $47 billion valued company to being valued at like nothing. Oh, wow. And they ousted the CEO and the founder. So I thought it was really great. Two hours long, Hulu. I mean, you know Ashley and I stand Hulu so hard. Yeah, but everything
Starting point is 00:15:10 recently has been Netflix. I feel like Netflix is on fire. Like they're unstoppable. I've, I've been making a list in my phone of show Rex that people are giving me and I've been hearing about. Okay. Oh, I love that. Demi Lovato doc. I want to watch Demi Lovato's doc. You're docking hard too? I like a doc. And then Barb and Star.
Starting point is 00:15:27 Wait, what is this? I don't know, but people keep sending me that there's a woman named Trish. And she's like real Trish. Is that Kristen Stewart? Girl, I know nothing about it except Trish. And Trish, y'all, has she even been in 2021? She took a vacation. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:15:44 She took 2020 off. But anyway, those are my, that's my two. I have a mean to tell you this for years. Do you know that I watch shows with captions now? You already told me this. Okay. You told me that your brother does it. But I didn't tell the listeners that I watched with captions now.
Starting point is 00:15:59 It started for me with Bridgerton. I understand what they're saying in Bridgerton. But like I watched it. I was out of town. The volume was kind of low on the show. And I just liked having the captions on. So I started with Bridgetton. And then I'll tell you what was a little hard for me was,
Starting point is 00:16:12 I may destroy you on HBO. They just, they're British and they use a lot of slang. and they talk really fast and I was like missing stuff. So I, it's very funny that I started watching shows with captions because of British TV. No, it's not because I started watching some of captions because of the crown. I watched the crown of captions. This is 100% exactly what I started doing.
Starting point is 00:16:30 And then you just get used to it. And then I'm like, I love having the captions on there. And you know what's, I haven't, I've only watched like an episode or two of this. I like it enough. But that,
Starting point is 00:16:39 but dairy girls, have you heard of this? It's like these Irish girls. It is hard to understand. Actually, I have to tell you who introduced me to this. Oh. My ex, the bodyguard.
Starting point is 00:16:49 He was like, I got the show. The biggest man I've ever seen, the biggest, most serious, covered in tattoos. No one's ever looked more like a bodyguard in his life. He, 100%. Guess who introduced me to it. Who? The firefighter. No!
Starting point is 00:17:03 What is going on? Ashley. Why do these big burly men love that show? I don't know anything about it. I haven't seen like one episode. It's about high school girls in Ireland. It's about, he like, made me a coffee one more. Saturday morning.
Starting point is 00:17:14 I like fucked him. He made me a coffee. And then he was like, I want to watch this show on Netflix with you. And it's about Irish high school girls. And I was like, are you fucking with me? You have two full tattoo sleeves. Yeah, the fireman was like, he's the one that told me about it. And when he told me about it, I was not watching shows with captions yet.
Starting point is 00:17:31 And I was like, I can't understand this. That is almost ununder, ununderstandable. It's just, it's English, but it's like a thick accent. Like, I would assume that like if people from another country are watching like a show where there's a really hardcore like southern accent, it might be a kind of hard to, I mean, it's just different, like, dialects. Also, it takes me five seconds, and then I start to understand it. Yeah, it takes you a minute to, like, calibrate your brain.
Starting point is 00:17:51 But anyway, bottom line is I started watching these British shows with captions, and now I'm like, I watch strictly, I keep them on all the time. Oh, I didn't know that. I'm watching Summerhouse with captions. No, you are not. Well, you bought, listen, you bought the whole season of Summerhouse. So you need to commit to knowing every single word. I'm surprised you don't watch it three times.
Starting point is 00:18:09 You bought the whole season. I mean, people don't know what you're talking about. Ashley bought the entire season of Summerhouse. She didn't realize YouTube TV. came with all of the episodes of everything. I didn't know that I had Bravo on my YouTube TV because I don't watch Bravo besides Summerhouse. So I bought the whole season on Amazon Prime.
Starting point is 00:18:28 And so... Does Hannah know? I don't know if I told Hannah. Like, I have sunk money now into Summer House. I'm so committed. I watched it. I bought one episode together, Jack. I don't know what Hannah's up to.
Starting point is 00:18:39 I know. Okay, guys, those were our Rex. Sort of? Sort of? I don't even know if we recommend it. Close, cash. I can't recommend it enough. Okay, it's time.
Starting point is 00:18:52 It's time. Okay, guys, we are so excited to welcome our guests today. She is a former professional dominatrix. She has starred in hundreds of adult films and even directed some. She has amassed millions of followers online and was the AVN female performer of the year, which is like winning the Oscars of porn. She's become one of the top porn stars in the world for good reason. I've seen lots of her work.
Starting point is 00:19:17 Please welcome to the show. Asa, Kira. Hey, guys. Hi. Thanks for having me. I'm a huge fan. Thank you for being here from bed. This is like very appropriate non-brand.
Starting point is 00:19:29 You are in bed. That actually is really on brand. But ironically, I'm not like in bed doing any of the things you want me to be doing. You're on bed rest. We have a board. I'm like, she's on pregnancy bed rest. It's not as sexy as you guys. And it's like fully in like,
Starting point is 00:19:45 beached whale position. Like not, I'm not like legs in the air or anything. I'm like on my side. Like when you, when you pulled up at the Zoom, I was like, oh, she's being sexy for us. And little did I know. You're like, no, I'm just really fucking pregnant. I thought that too. I was like, she's really like, she's committed to this brand. Like, yeah, like my arm is under my head. I'm like, my guys, I love this so much. You look hot. And we were telling you are our third guest. that's about to have a baby in two minutes. So thank you for doing this. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:20 Thanks for having me. Of course. Well, we're excited to have you today. We're going to talk to you about your background, how you got into porn. We asked our listeners, some questions they had about porn. We got some funny stuff. And then obviously, sex tips, blowjad tips, anal tips. Always.
Starting point is 00:20:34 Well, let's talk about you. Where are you from? How did you talk about your professional career? How you got into it? Yeah. So I actually, I'm from New York City. and I moved out to L.A. when I was 23 to start a porn career. And I mean, I guess that's, I haven't like, you know, like being like locked in this pandemic for like a year. Like I haven't done a lot of like
Starting point is 00:20:56 press type stuff. And I'm like, I don't even know how to talk about myself anymore. But yeah, like you said, I used to be a dominatrix. I did that for a year. That was like my introduction to the adult entertainment industry, I guess. And then from there, I transitioned to stripping. and then from there, I got into porn. So when you say dominatrix, like, in a professional way, or like that's what you were doing in your own time? No, no, no, no. Yeah, like, no, I don't mean like for fun.
Starting point is 00:21:27 But I guess, no, she's like, I went to work every day at Salesforce and I would come home and I'd be a dominoetist. No, no, no, I'm sorry. I don't want to, like, I guess I don't have a lot of knowledge. Like, what is a professional dominatrix? What did that look like when you were doing? Yeah. So for me, I mean, I mean,
Starting point is 00:21:42 There's all different ways of doing it, right? But for me, that meant when I was, I think I was 19 at the time, and I started working at a dungeon in New York City on 33rd Street called the Nutcracker Suite. Okay. And I was just like walking down the street one day and this like super shady looking guy came up to me. I was with my ex at the time. And he came up to me and he was like, hey, do you want to be in the adult entertainment industry? And I did.
Starting point is 00:22:11 I had these dreams of being in porn and I just thought like hookers were so cool and like just any type of sex work I wanted to be involved in but I was 19 and in New York it's not like California where everyone knows someone in porn so it felt like this very far away dream and like this shady man just like walked right up to me
Starting point is 00:22:31 and asked me it was like an angel fell from the sky and I was like yes and he was like great like follow me basically you can come check out my dungeon right now. This could have gone one of two ways. Totally. And I'm so lucky. I feel so fortunate and so stupid that I follow this guy.
Starting point is 00:22:53 And, you know, I was with my ex. So I had that like kind of like a layer of the guise of protection, even though like I don't know that he was the looking back. He was the type of dude that could have protected me. Like, yeah. So I followed him to the, upstairs to the dungeon. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:23:11 And he was like, great. You can start training tomorrow. Training meant on him, actually. He was my submissive, I guess, in that scenario. And he just like kind of showed me, I didn't know anything about being a dominatrix. Or I didn't even know, like, I was 19. Like, I didn't even know if I was, like,
Starting point is 00:23:28 identified as submissive or dominant or, like, I didn't know anything about BDSM or sex work or anything. But I quickly learned. He showed me the ropes. and yeah, and I started work like two days later at the night shift. Yeah, in the dungeon. In the dungeon, which is like, I think it started at like 11 p.m. and ended at 7 a.m. or so. Oh, my God. So I have a question for you just in line with what you said,
Starting point is 00:23:54 and I heard you want to interview years ago say the same thing where you said that like you loved porn and you thought hookahers were so cool. Like, do you remember like when you started thinking that or how you decided? I just like, I love this industry. I want to get into this no matter what? I don't remember, like, there wasn't, like, a single aha moment, but I definitely always was super fascinated by sex. And, like, way more so than, like, my average peer.
Starting point is 00:24:24 And, like, even, like, watching TV and stuff, I always felt, like, the slutty character was, like, so cool. Yeah. Like, I remember, like, watching, like, Gia on Full House. Oh, my God. That is the deepest cut. I'm obsessed with you that you said that. Gia? Like I was like, I want to be Gia. Can we get more Gia? She was only in like three episodes.
Starting point is 00:24:41 She was only in like three episodes and she was like smoking in the bathroom and her like flannel was like, yes. I started wearing a flannel around the waist. Yes. It was like for some reason that was like so slutty back then. But like obviously like now Gia is like not even like in the realm of like a bad girl. Right. But back then yeah like that spoke to me. And so I don't know. Like I don't where it started, I really, really don't. But like, I remember even like being like six years old and like asking my parents to like read me all these books about like how babies are made and like, like I've been masturbating for like as long as I can think of. I think I'm just like really drawn to sex and I'm just like a really horny person. And I can't explain it past that. It just, it's like
Starting point is 00:25:30 you just lived your truth. Like it's just like I'm not even trying to be funny, but you were called to work in sex, and you did. Like, you didn't ignore it. You weren't like, I'm ashamed. Like, you were like, no, I'm going to be an award-winning porn star. Like, duh. This is what I was born to do. Were your parents?
Starting point is 00:25:48 Like, so she said, like, you weren't ashamed. Like, did you grow up in like a sex positive environment or anything like that? Not at all. No, not at all. Like, my parents are, I don't want to say, like, they shamed me for my sexuality or maybe a little bit. Like, actually, it was not a sex positive house. Like, I'm pretty sure my mom has only fucked my dad, like, once.
Starting point is 00:26:09 Yeah. Um, like to have me. Yeah. Even now when I watch a movie with my parents and like people are making out, it's so uncomfortable. So not your movies. You aren't sitting down with mom and dad. No. Um, and not even like, like I would, I wouldn't even want to watch like cruel intentions
Starting point is 00:26:26 with my parents. You know what I mean? But like, yeah, I, I, no. So like, we didn't talk about sex. So even like me when I told you like I was asking them to read me. these like books about sex and like about how babies are made. It made them like super uncomfortable. So, you know, that's something I think about so much. And it's something I'm like still working on to this day is like working on like all this shame surrounding sex. Like even now after I masturbate and I
Starting point is 00:26:51 come like I have these like 15 seconds where I feel like super shameful and guilty. And it's so weird. But like yeah, like I don't know. Like there's like a lot of stuff that I think it's so harmful. like why do we do that? Like everyone's horny. Everyone's sexual. It's how we get here. Like, why should it be this thing we're like embarrassed about or ashamed about? I don't know. We talk about this all the time. Like what exactly is it? Like you're alone in the privacy, your own home. You know, like we feel like some people just obviously it was the way they were raised and they feel like they're weird or they're like a freak for liking something that turns them on or that they're masturbating to. But I don't, we just, we don't have the answer. Like it's it's fucked. But yeah. I mean, thanks for admitting that. it probably is like helpful to hear you say that to the average person that doesn't work in sex. I feel like just now like women are allowed to be like, yeah, we masturbate. Like we have sex toys and stuff. But like I feel like even five years ago, like it wasn't like we grew up and like girls were like sitting around being like, oh, you masturbate, I masturbate too. Like it's not like dudes can, you know, like they're not like, we're not like in a circle jerk.
Starting point is 00:27:58 I totally, I said that recently how like we weren't showing off our vibrators on Instagram. Instagram five years ago. You know what I mean? And now you're seeing girls just they're running, they're doing ads for vibrator companies and they're like really showing off like, hey, I just masturbated. Like I was hosting sex toy parties years and years ago like for fun, but like, you know, privately, but I wasn't blasting it on the internet. And right. I think it's so refreshing that you see a girl holding up her vibrator on Instagram because you're totally right. Even five years ago, I think that was a little taboo for the average person. Oh, 100%. I started masturbating like pretty young. I discovered this really like 11 or 12.
Starting point is 00:28:35 I was masturbating it. I never told another person that I knew how to do this like crazy trick until I was like maybe halfway through college. I certainly wouldn't have talked about it. You would be surprised how many messages we get from girls saying, you know, I bought my first sex toy because of you guys. I was like touching myself. I had my first orgasm.
Starting point is 00:28:50 And I'm so like excited that like we can do that. But yeah, it's much more normalized. I put up an Instagram story the other day where I was like in a dark shower with a candle lit at like 3 o'clock in the afternoon. somebody, somebody responded, like, tell me you're masturbating without telling me you're masturbating. And I, like, reposted that. I was like, fuck, yes, I am. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:12 Well, let's, like, get into some of this. You know, we want to do, like, ask you a few general porn questions that people want to know. We're not trying to have a TED talk about porn. We want to talk more about, like, sex stuff. But I think there was just some burning questions that people have. Oh, yeah. The number one question, like, far and above for you, was how much of what you do is acting versus is actually enjoyable.
Starting point is 00:29:32 Are you having a good time on set? Me, yes, I'm having a good time. I think I don't want to speak for all porn stars. I think like, I mean, like the porn experience can be like really different for everyone, right? And I think, you know, there's nothing wrong with just doing porn for money, like strictly for money. You're not there to have a good time.
Starting point is 00:29:52 I think that's like a valid experience too and there's no shame to that. But for me, like I definitely got into porn because I love sex. I love learning about sex and having different kinds of sex. And porn is like, you get to do that in like a safe environment with people who are tested and they're pros. They know what they're doing. So for me, like, I see porn as like kind of like an extension of just my sex life. And to me, like the fact that there's cameras there and like people watching me, like that's like part of the whole experience. Like I like that.
Starting point is 00:30:26 It's not like I'm having sex and, you know, despite there being camera. I can have a good time. It's like because there's cameras there, like I'm having an even better time. Like that's the fetish. I feel like she's selling me on porn. I feel like I want to get her. I feel like the whole way she just described it was like,
Starting point is 00:30:40 what a dream job. I don't even need to get paid honestly. What you're describing, I'm just going to ask people to come over. I'll pay them. I love the way you described your job. I like, I get to do this in a safe environment
Starting point is 00:30:52 where people are tested and I love being on camera. Like, you know that quote that's like dance like no one's watching? It's like, I'm dancing like, no. suck dick like no one else. No, like I always, I felt like dance. Like everyone's watching.
Starting point is 00:31:05 That's how I dance. When I'm dancing, I'm dancing like I'm in a music video. Not that I'm alone acting like a flailing freak. Like I'm always like, yes, shouldn't you be having sex like there's cameras on you all the time? It turns me on. I love you. You said it. Sorry, I cut you off.
Starting point is 00:31:22 But I just got really inspired to get the born. Exactly the same. And yeah, you're right. This is like, I'm like, but right, there's more. Yeah. But it's, yeah, like, that's how I feel about porn. Like, I, I mean, obviously I do it for money, you know, like this is a job to me. But also, like, I would do it for a lot less money.
Starting point is 00:31:43 I would do it as a hobby. It would earn an option to. It's like love what you do and you'll never work a day in your life. Like, you're, I mean, no, there's definitely like work aspects to it. Like, there's so much to porn that's like. not just shooting porn, like, like taking photos. Yeah. But like, I feel like I'm like there's so much to porn, you guys.
Starting point is 00:32:10 Like you have to take photos before and get your makeup done. No, but there is. There's like a lot. The downside to porn is the glam. I can't. No, but like also, I mean, doing porn is like it's really so much of it is. an everyday job. Like, for example, like, and most other
Starting point is 00:32:32 jobs, like, I don't have to give a fuck about like working out, my diet, what I look like, doing all the upkeep, which is, like, very expensive on, like, Botox and fillers and hair and, like, you know, all this stuff. And then, like, there's a lot of, like, travel involved
Starting point is 00:32:48 because we only shoot in California. And then we have to do events. And, like, now that there's, you know, Corona, it's different. But, like, we used to feature dance and tour stripping. clubs and like to keep your name out there. And there, there is a lot of stuff that goes into porn that's like not the actual shooting of porn. Right. Um, which is like there's a lot of parts that I'm like, oh, okay, like this feels like work. A job. Yeah. I mean, it is a job. Yeah. You know,
Starting point is 00:33:17 going to Las Vegas conventions and promoting yourself. Yeah. Like, keeping your name out there. It's just, I think it's being an artist of any kind. Like what keeps you relevant over all the other people that are singing or dancing or having sex for a month. Totally. You know what I mean? This is such a cliche question to ask. Everybody wants to know about orgasms on screen. Like, are they real?
Starting point is 00:33:40 Are they sometimes real? Are they not? I totally thought you were going to ask if dick size matters. Because to me, that's like the normal mission. Okay, well, we'll go to that next. We'll start with the orgasms. I mean, yeah, for me, again, like I don't want to speak for everyone. For me, like, I'm very, I come really easily, and it's just always been that way.
Starting point is 00:34:01 Like, if I kind of just, like, put my mind in a certain, like, mindset, like, I can, and, like, squeeze my pussy in a certain way, like, I can come. And also, like, you know, like I said before, like, the fact that I'm on a porn set, like, that's what, that's the part that really turns me on. So, like, that gets me going, like, mentally, like, I'm very stimulated in that way. Um, so for me, like, no, not all the orgasms are real. I would say most of them are, but there are definitely times where the director is like, all right,
Starting point is 00:34:32 let's wrap things up. Like, let's just like do a quick orgasm and then we'll like pan out. In those instances, I will try to like force a real orgasm. But it doesn't always work out that way. So I think,
Starting point is 00:34:45 I don't know, I feel like we all fake orgasms for one reason or another sometimes. Sometimes it's for work. Yeah. And sometimes it's for money. Yeah. Like you said,
Starting point is 00:34:54 I mean, also these are like professionals at sex. of course it's going to feel good a lot of the times. You're turned on because everyone's watching because you're sucking dick like everyone's watching. So, yeah, of course the orgasms are real. I was surprised so many people ask
Starting point is 00:35:09 because I was like, yeah, of course she is real orgasms sometimes. But I'm glad you explained it. Maybe this is like me totally projecting or like some kind of weird shit I'm carrying from childhood. But like I feel like when people ask that question, they want me to be like, I'm not having a real orgasm. I don't know why I feel. that way, but I think they want me to be like, every single one is fake. I hate this job.
Starting point is 00:35:32 So they can tell, they can tell their boyfriends, like, you know, it's fake, right? Somebody asked. Next time they walk into their man watching a porn with theater, they can be like, you know, she fakes it because I heard it on girls got to eat. So I think it just like, it pisses people off that you're having such a good time. Maybe. I think, I think there's a lot of that. Like, when it comes to like slut shaming, I think there is, again, maybe like, I'm just like being an asshole about it. but like, I'm like, you're jealous that you can't be a slut. That's the title of the episode.
Starting point is 00:36:03 Somebody framed it a different way a little bit nicer. She said, is she faking it every time like I have to, basically? And she meant like, you know, well, because I think that like some women are like, I've never had an orgasm with a man. I can't get outside of my head and enjoy it or with a female. I haven't ever had an orgasm with another person. I can't get out of my head. How is this easy for other people?
Starting point is 00:36:21 And it's like, well, this is my job. I chose this life. Yeah. I probably wouldn't have chosen this job. if I, like, if orgasms didn't come to me easily. But yeah, like, I think that's such a real thing that like, I think, I mean, what woman hasn't done a fake orgasm for like the sake of a man's ego? Like, or not even that just because you wanted to be over.
Starting point is 00:36:41 Like, I'm ready to live this to be done. I'm hungry. So do you where do you, totally? Can you tell us like where you go in your head or is that, is it, is it a kind of a specific place? Is it like a more like feeling yourself vibe? Yeah. Like, it's not, I wouldn't say like I'm going to.
Starting point is 00:36:56 like a happy place. It's more like it's mostly about squeezing my pussy. Yeah. Like there's something about that. And then like I don't, I don't know. I feel like my therapist always asks me this question of like
Starting point is 00:37:14 where in your body do you feel it like when I'm mad or like sad or something? And I can never answer this question. I'm always like, I don't know. But that's what I feel like right now. It sounds like you're present. Like that's some people, I think like somebody asks like, you do zone out or are you present?
Starting point is 00:37:29 It sounds like you're present for the experience. I think maybe I try to make myself even more present. Well, we all have something that we do. I think most women, I think, when we're masturbating or we're having sex that we know will like get us there. I don't know how to put it into words, not because I'm ashamed, but I think even like, you know, sometimes you're having sex with somebody
Starting point is 00:37:48 and you're like, if they could just say this thing or do this thing, like it would be game over. But, and sometimes you don't want to ask for it because it's like crazy. It's like, okay, like, choke me a little, smack my ass and then like, tell me you want me to come so hard. All the same time, though, make sure you get it right. Like, it's kind of like, do it perfectly. They actually would do it perfectly. Town and cadence.
Starting point is 00:38:07 Actually, like, it's all about the cadence for me. Yeah, I'm like, oh, none. To me, like, one of the coolest things about porn that it's done for me personally and, like, for my personal sex life is like, I'm so comfortable asking for what I want from a partner now because, like, it's just, I'm so jaded about it. Like, I mean, for sure when I first got into porn, like, I would not, like, dare correct a man on how he was eating my pussy. Like, to me, like, just the thought of that was so uncomfortable that I would rather have a bad time. Or, like, just rather, like, get it over with and then, like, move to the fucking or something.
Starting point is 00:38:43 But, like, because, you know, like, when you're doing it day and day out and then, like, you just have to talk about these things when it's your job. And, like, like, you're put in a position where you have to talk about it. I've become so jaded that now, like, if I'm like fucking my husband, like, I completely just tell him exactly what I need him to say to me in those moments. And it is disgusting. You're right. But like, so when I'm with a partner, like, I don't think a single thought, but when I'm masturbating, I definitely have those go-toes. Like, I definitely have scenarios that I'm like, I know this will get me off. And I know I'll feel disgusting about it after, but like in that moment, I don't care. You know what's one of those things for me is it sounds really weird
Starting point is 00:39:25 but like I love when somebody like pulls my underwear to the side and fucks me and it's like hard when there's a guy on top of me ripping your clothing off to be like leave these on it's going to turn me on. No, I don't think it is. I think if you said like leave them on, it's hot. Like I think that like the first time we talked about this podcast of like getting fucked in a body suit and like just pull it to the side, people were like so turned on by that.
Starting point is 00:39:47 So I think it's like guys just don't know. I think that they love to be told. I mean, I think guys with a huge ego don't, like they feel emasculated, but like the right guys that you, that we should want to fuck really appreciate some direction. Right.
Starting point is 00:40:01 And the way that you framed it is perfect that you would rather have a bad time than tell somebody what to do. And it's like, pick your adventure. But that sounds bad to me. Choose your own adventure. Okay, so you said dick size. So like while we're here,
Starting point is 00:40:15 let's just, I want to hear your dick size overview. for me like this sounds like so cliche and I feel like it I think this sounds like like I almost like hate answering this question just because it sounds like such a beauty pageant answer to me well you brought it up but I brought it up yeah you're right and I put myself here but like no I truly feel like I truly feel like if it's not too small and not too big everything else in the middle is like at that point it just depends on like who you are as a person how you're fucking he has much you're listening to me, how much, how intuitive you are, like, to like, how I'm feeling, how well you can fuck my mind. Like, it's, it's like all the other things. Like, the only time,
Starting point is 00:41:00 like, I'm like, ooh, a big dick is really hot is like, if I'm sucking on it, then I'm, like, super turned on by, like, a huge dick. Like, I just think it's, the visual of it is hot. Maybe I'm brainwashed by porn, but, like, I just think that's, like, it looks hot. And that turns me on. Me too. But like, if I can't see it and it's in my vagina, I'm like, I have no idea how big it is. I think you're so right. I feel like there's almost like a immature quality of saying that like the number one thing you need in bed is a certain size dick. It's like that's actually not how it works. Like women that actually have a lot of sex and like are good at sex and know about sex. That's not the thing they would name as the top thing. Like got to be nine inches. Like that's actually that sounds like you're a virgin that you don't know what you're actually talking about. Like totally. Totally. It's like the thing we're supposed to say. That's, no offense to urgence, clearly. It sounds like, you know, that's the narrative.
Starting point is 00:41:56 And honestly, I'm, I'm, as long as it's not so big that I can taste it while you're fucking me or it's so small that I can't even feel it, I'll take anything in the middle. And I've had all kinds of sizes. And to me, all the matters is, what are you saying to me in bed? How much you focusing on my pleasure? You know, is this like reciprocal? That's all I care. And can you, how was your body moving?
Starting point is 00:42:16 Like nobody wants to be jackhammered and no one wants to feel like you're in slow-mo, you know, so I feel like that's part of it too. Totally. It's way more skill than anything else. Well, I think this is like a good segue into a sex question that somebody asks because we're talking about like asking for things you want in bed. And this girl said, how do I get comfortable with dirty talk and be louder? I want to, but I'm always so quiet. And like it seems like you have trained yourself to be good at asking for what you want and then maybe like talking a little bit dirty. So do you have some tips for that?
Starting point is 00:42:46 Um, or has it just always come naturally? No, it hasn't. And I'm actually like specifically thinking about like when I first started porn, they want you to be, you know, obviously very vocal and performative in porn because like that's, you're making a product for people to masturbate to. Like, you know, if you're just dead quiet, then like people can't always tell that you're having a good time. Um, not that there's not like room for that kind of porn too, but like that's just like not usually what they're, they want. Yeah. Um, I've always. always been like a really loud moaner and stuff, but dirty talk has not always come very naturally
Starting point is 00:43:22 to me, but I love it done to me. I mean, usually my advice for stuff like that is like fake it till you make it, like, which is what I did. And now it comes so naturally. And now it's very, very easy. But in the beginning, I wasn't comfortable doing it at all. And you know what? That's probably like the worst advice, because I'm sure the correct advice is like, only do what you're comfortable with. Well, there's no correct advice, but I actually think I'm going to pull a piece of advice from what you just said. I think if you're like a quiet person in the bedroom, start with just elevating your noises. Because like I feel like if you're really quiet, you're like, I'm really nervous and I don't want anything coming out of my mouth at a loud volume. Like dirty talk isn't the starting spot.
Starting point is 00:44:08 Like that's kind of like zero to a hundred too quickly. So just start moaning louder. Start like saying yes louder. or just like, what noises feel natural to you kind of take them up a notch before you start to form words? If you're like starting at Ground Zero dead quiet, like, noises are hot. And if you're like, don't know how to say something dirty, then start with noises, I guess, and just like get them a little bit louder. That's great advice, yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:36 I just, from you saying you're a loud moaner, I'm like, oh, well, let's start there. Let's just start loud moaning before we move into like, I want you to come all over my face, you know. I think this is very real. I think, honestly, I think a lot of people probably feel a lot of comfort with you saying that it took you a while. You know, it's really weird. I'm thinking about all my favorite dirty talk lines.
Starting point is 00:44:55 They're actually from a man. They're not from my mouth. There's lines that I wish somebody would say to me, like telling me that I'm a dirty little slut or honestly just like calling me a good little girl. I mean, really anything in that range, asking me whose pussy is this is, things like that. But all of my favorite dirty lines are said to me.
Starting point is 00:45:15 are not me saying the word. Yeah, that's so true. I mean, yeah, and that's like exactly what I mean where like I love it being done to me. Like I could come just from dirty talk. Same. Yeah. But I think like women, in general, like women's sounds are so hot and sexy. Like, like, uh, is so much sexier than a man grunting.
Starting point is 00:45:37 So I think if, if I'm being turned on audibly, it's a woman's sounds and a man's words. women's pleasure sounds are so sexy to me, and I think to a lot of men. I think like we get caught up in our head a lot about like, are we going to say the wrong thing? Are we going to actually end up saying something that turns them off? Do these words sound natural coming out of my mouth? And like, I will say like once a dude has like a boner, like you could fucking say anything. And like you could completely say the wrong thing. And he's not going to give a shit because guess what? Like he's like already, he already
Starting point is 00:46:13 has a bone or brain. Like anything. you say we'll be fine. Right. What guy has ever had beers with his friends like after fucking some girl and he's like, dude, you'll never believe what she said to me. He's such a weirdo. Like they're never saying that. Or like, oh dude, you'll never believe. She said nothing to me. It was so crazy. Like you're so right. Just moan. Act like you're into it. You don't need to start with like fill me up with your come and I want you to like fill my cunt up, which I will say. Honestly, when I masturbate, I just think about me saying that. But yeah, like just watch Assa on film. like mimic her sounds to start.
Starting point is 00:46:47 We're gonna, this is like a whole like handbook journey. So start with noises. Should we talk about some blowjob tips? Yes. Mm. We don't, yeah, I mean, you have the floor. People just, people want blow job tips. You know, the far.
Starting point is 00:47:01 You want blowjob tips, deep throating tips. I, um, I was wondering about humming on a dick. You just tell us how to suck a dick, like a champion. It's my favorite hobby. Um, I'm not like one of those people who's so good at deep throating that it's like my thing. but I feel like I think like the way to give the best blowjob is to like be really
Starting point is 00:47:21 enthusiastic about it and that's exactly how I feel about like when someone's going down on me is like if they're into it to me that's super hot so like anything that like shows that you're into it I think is great oh actually I have one very very real blowjob tip
Starting point is 00:47:36 the way I like to start a blowjob once you're like done with like all the teasing the dick and like licking it and all that stupid shit. Just like jam it down your throat as far as it will go. And it, because it will collect that kind of like thick spit. Do you know what I'm talking about? It's like, it's like the spit that you can only get in the back of your throat. But I think that spit is like really the key to a good blowjob because it doesn't dry out. It doesn't, it stays like really sliny. And I think it feels like really good. So I think when you start off with that spit, it makes the rest of
Starting point is 00:48:14 the blowjob go very smoothly. So like gag yourself a little. I'm not being funny, but like, and I don't, I mean, people are so scared, I think, to gag, but I think most guys want to know that. Like, I don't want to gag because I'm like, what if I throw up? But I think guys like to think that you choked on their dick.
Starting point is 00:48:35 I think so too. Like from like an ego stand of point. That's what I'm saying. She choked on my dick, bro. Like they want to say that. Totally. Totally. And like, again, I think it's like one of those things. Once a dude has a boner, it's like, he's not going to get turned off by something like that. I have a question about blow jobs. It's probably one size fits one. But I, how do you feel about the volume of wetness and spit? How much spit are you getting on the dick? I like a lot. Like, to me, that I think it's hot when there's like a lot of spit. And I find that in most scenarios, like, I feel like dudes have really enjoyed like. a sloppy, slimy, spitty blowjob. But I mean, yeah, like, there's definitely dues out there that
Starting point is 00:49:20 are like, I don't really like spit. Weirdos. I don't know. I guess it's weirdos. I guess it's different for everyone. But in general, like, I like to get like that really thick spit going in the beginning. And do you have like standard hand placement? Like, are you getting both on there as one doing something else? Like, what are your hands? or do you mix it up? Like from what I've noticed, I think one hand probably feels the best. I think two strokes their ego if you can get two on it. Right.
Starting point is 00:49:54 Sometimes the two more than fit. Yeah. Like my dick's a big, you know? Yeah. But then sometimes, I mean, you can cup the balls or do other stuff with your free hand. I mean, I remember the first time watching the Kim Kardashian sex tape. Like her hate, I think it starts with a blowjob. And both of her hands were on his dick.
Starting point is 00:50:11 And then there was space between the, it was a, biggest dick I've ever seen. It was like both hands, space between the hands and her mouth. I was like, how much more shit can go on this dick? Like, it's like a, it's like a ruler. It was like a footlong ruler. Those napkin cups. How much more stuff can we get on this? Right. Like, there could have been a third hand. Like, Chloe could have come in and put her hand on it too. How much, I mean, honestly, for me, as long as you're like twists in the hand and this good hand-mouth
Starting point is 00:50:41 coordination. I think that you're going to suck a dick relatively well. But are you also throwing a hand on the ball sack or up a beehole? Um, you know, so I used to like just slip a finger in his asshole because like most guys I've fingered their asshole have not disliked it. Right. Right. But also like, you know, obviously like as I grow older, I learn more about consent and like these things. And I'm like, maybe perhaps like it's not like the best idea to just be like fingering a dude's asshole like without, any type of green light. You just go for it. I know.
Starting point is 00:51:14 Yeah. So, you know, it's definitely like, I think about that now. But like, I will say, like, licking a guy's asshole, I've definitely never had a negative reaction from that. Okay. Right. But then again, like, it's so hard with, like,
Starting point is 00:51:29 giving advice and stuff because it's like, well, you got to be careful of E. coli. I make sure he, like, washed his asshole. And, like... Yeah. And now you got to make sure they're vaccinated. Like, it's a whole thing. and they don't wash their asshole.
Starting point is 00:51:41 I know. I am an out of the shower only butthole liquor. I'm honestly like, I want to be more freaky with my fingers during a blowjob because I love blowjobs. But the dirty warmth of someone's inner asshole stresses me out a little bit. I know.
Starting point is 00:51:57 In my mind, like sitting here, just like talking like obviously I'm not, you know, there's no penis in me or anything. But like I feel like, oh, like, no, you shouldn't just like, like anyone's asshole. But like once I'm like in it, I'll lick anyone's asshole. Like I, I'm so much grosser once I'm like turned on. A hundred percent. Like that's what we always say. Like the second you get a little juiced up, you turn into a different person. Like this like I don't even, when I think about what I say during sex, like if I think about it when I'm just sitting
Starting point is 00:52:30 on the couch not turned on, I'm like, who was she? I don't know. Like you really any, you turn into a different version. I mean, in a good way. But yeah, we're sitting here being like, I would never do that. And then one second of getting like a little wet down there. We're like, let me eat your asshole if it's going to turn you on. It's so true. And it goes in every direction. Like I'll also say things like, I love you when I'm like, I don't.
Starting point is 00:52:54 That's Rayna. Two times in one summer, I told two different guys I loved them during sex. It happens. I don't know why. Why does that happen? It's just like it's kind of a turn on. I think I'm going, I'm barreling towards, I love your cock, but like, I love you. You get out by accident and I just never acknowledge it ever again. I don't know who that bitch was.
Starting point is 00:53:17 She just showed up. She was sober. She just, she was dick down. And that happened. Yeah. If there's like one thing I want people to know, it's to like, don't ever talk to me about the things I said when we were fucking. A hundred percent. I have like walked home from someone's place and I like shudder to think. of what just went down in there. Like, I'm like, I don't even know. Like, we were, that was a first date. Why was I told, I told that guy to choke me. It was a first date. We met three hours prior.
Starting point is 00:53:48 Like, I have to like, forget it. I'm like, I don't want to ever think about that again. Oh, it's like what somebody tells you what you said when you were drunk. You're like, I don't know that bitch. To get me pregnant. Yeah. Put a baby in me. If you think I haven't said that, it's like telling you I said when I was blacked out.
Starting point is 00:54:02 I don't know that bitch. I don't want to hear what she said. Meanwhile, you're like on birth control and kids. even get pregnant. Yeah. Meanwhile, they've heard us do a whole episode about not many children and they're like, what, Ashley, what? I'm like, put a baby in me. It's so true. I don't know why we do that. I guess we get boner brain too. 100%. It's like being drunk. I mean, if you want to like get like really scientific, your brain is flooded with dopamine and serotonin and that fucks you up. Yeah. How people are like,
Starting point is 00:54:30 you know, the truth comes out when you're drunk. No, it doesn't. If I'm ever going to say, what a baby in me, that's a goddamn lie. And we all. know it. So don't come to me with that like a horny girl's words are true. I don't know. No. Yeah. No. It's different. You know that your hippocampus is flooded with with alcohol. I'll talk to about the brain. Sorry. It's not interesting. You're trying to like if you're, you know, a good sexual partner, you're trying to please that person. So you're you're kind of working off with this like, what can I say? What can I do to turn them on too? So it's whatever, whatever that feels right in that moment. Yeah. It needs.
Starting point is 00:55:07 you know what? That's so true. Because like part of that high or like part of that drunkness or that drug or whatever it is is like trying to maintain that chemistry. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Like you don't want him to like lose his boner. Yeah. Yeah. So we should talk about butt stuff? Yeah. I mean, you specialize in anal. You love anal. I do. I love butt stuff. And it's funny. Like there was definitely a period of time. The first time I had butt sex in my life, it went terribly. Like it was an accident. This guy approached you on the street and was like, come to my, come to my upstairs dungeon. And then he put it in my ass.
Starting point is 00:55:45 Actually, weirdly enough, it's, it was with my, my husband now. Oh, okay. We also did when I was a kid. I shouldn't say a kid when I was younger. But he was fucking me from behind. It was like really sweaty and like just, we were just like fucking. And then he took it out and just like slammed a little part of his dick into my asshole. And it was the worst pain I had ever felt. And I was like, I can't understand why anyone
Starting point is 00:56:10 would ever want to do this. This is not fun. And by the way, I believe him that it was an accident. Like, he's like not the type of dude that would be. Yeah, he's marriage material. Yeah, exactly. He's not like me fingering every butthole out there with no consent. When you were telling that story, I'd like start taking deep breaths. I could like feel, because I think we've all felt that. We've all been there. Accidental. Yeah. And so, yeah, so like I, for a long time, I was like, anal's just not for me. And then I actually got into porn and I started dating this guy who loved being pegged. So meaning like he loved when I would fuck his ass, whether with a strap on or a dildo or whatever.
Starting point is 00:56:50 And so like just seeing him enjoying it so much, I was kind of like, hmm, like maybe it's time to revisit that. And he was actually the perfect person to have anal or start my anal journey with, because because he had been fucked in the ass and, like, he knew, you know, like, the right way to do it and how to, like, avoid a lot of pain and how to, like, go slow and all that. So he was, like, the perfect person to introduce me to anal that way. And then, like, once you're used to it, it's, it's so easy. Like, it's... So this is, like, the most amateur anal question ever, but is it regular? I mean, I guess in work and with your husband, like, people that do anal and really like it, are they doing? it a lot, like as much as regular sex? Or is it still like a only on twice a week kind of thing? I mean, everyone's different. Like, I know girls that have anal sex every time they have sex. Like, I know a handful of women that only come from their asshole. So they're pretty much having
Starting point is 00:57:48 anal sex every time they have sex. I'm not like that. For me, like, in my personal life, it's definitely still like not, I wouldn't say it's like a special occasion thing at all, but it's not even close to every single time. I would say like one out of like 15 times I have sex. Okay. If that actually, maybe more like one out of 20. Because like for me also like like,
Starting point is 00:58:09 like anal sex like requires prep and stuff for me anyway. I know not everyone. But like like I like to doosh out my asshole and make sure I'm going to be clean. And like I'm not at the level where I can be like just rammed in my asshole whenever and I'm ready to go. Like I'm like I had Chipotle. Yeah. You mentioned like that it wasn't.
Starting point is 00:58:31 as comfortable for you in the beginning. Do you have tips for like, if somebody's not used to that? I mean, obviously, but like, how do you get into it sexually a little bit more? I have a lot of tips, actually. I think positioning is like really, really, really crucial in the beginning. Those first few times you have anal sex,
Starting point is 00:58:47 like, I think the receiver should be in full control. So like whether you're, I think a great position is spoon to start in. Okay. Just because he can just lay there and you can push back on it. I think it's really important that the, person giving it is completely still in the beginning and doesn't get like carried away and start moving because that's when things get scary and then like you're out of control and like it's so
Starting point is 00:59:11 important to be in full control of all the movement in the beginning in my opinion. Okay. I also think like what really worked for me is like just doing it a lot in the beginning just to like gain that muscle memory or whatever that is. Like just have sex anal sex like 20 times in a month and then you're like good to go for life. It's like boot camp, yeah. It's like boot camp, exactly. It's like stretching out a shoe.
Starting point is 00:59:35 It's exactly like stretching out a shoe. Oh, my God. It's also a good idea to, I think, use toys. To start? Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Like, I think, you know, that way you are in full control. And, like, you know, like, what to expect.
Starting point is 00:59:52 Like, I think a lot of times when you first start having anal sex, it doesn't feel, like, really how you think it might. Like, a lot of people will describe it as, like, taking a shit in reverse and like, yeah, I can kind of understand what they mean. So it is like a foreign feeling that like maybe it's easiest to get used to on your own. But also like for me like the mentally like what turns me on is like someone doing it. Right. So like for me like I didn't really go the toy route. Yeah. And then people asked about asshole bleaching. I mean, I know a little bit.
Starting point is 01:00:25 I haven't I haven't dabbled but I know like how it's done, I guess. I think I do at least. do you do that regularly? Is that important to you? I don't. I don't do that. And I definitely understand the appeal because like once in a while I will see a girl whose asshole is like the same color of her ass cheeks. And I'm just like, God, that looks gorgeous.
Starting point is 01:00:47 Guys, I don't want to like chew my own horn. My ass is my assholes. That's what mine looks like. Really? Yeah. You're one of the lucky ones. You don't have a brown eye. Tons of stuff is wrong with me.
Starting point is 01:00:55 But brown eyes not one of them. Well, mine's brown. And like, I mean, now that I've done porn for like 12 years, like I'm just kind of like, oh, this is what assholes look like most of the time. Okay. But I think another good, another great thing that porn has given me is just like, I really truly do feel like no matter what you look like in any area of your body, there's going to be someone who's into it and then there's going to be someone who's not. And to me, that's very comforting. Like it takes away a lot of like self-consciousness for me, just knowing that. Like, I'm never going to be everyone's flavor.
Starting point is 01:01:29 But there's also always going to be someone jerking off to me. A hundred percent. With anything, you can, if you're doing something right in life, you could never please everybody. Never, including bleaching your asshole. Right. So that being said, over a decade ago, I did try, like, my dermatologist from back then gave me, like, a cream to put on at home. So it wasn't like one of those situations where you, like, go someplace.
Starting point is 01:01:57 and they bleach it for you, they just sent me home with a cream. And I was supposed to use it for like two weeks every day. I don't know. It was just like way too involved for me. So I did it like twice and then didn't touch it again. Yeah, my bikini waxer in Atlanta, they were doing, they may still do it, but I just asked her how they did it. And she said, we literally just massage bleach into like the area till it's bleached.
Starting point is 01:02:20 But I feel like maybe what you're saying, I feel like I know too much. I think there's like a hydroquinone type of cream that's like a lightning. and you could probably do that over time and it would lighten the area. I don't know, just, you know. I'm not a doctor, but I am. Anyway, but that's like the lightning chemical to get back in there.
Starting point is 01:02:39 We need to stop talking about this. I think this is very comforting to a lot of people because a few people just said like, how do I be more confident? It's like you just have to tell yourself that some people are going to be into you and some aren't. And, you know, the person who's hard dick
Starting point is 01:02:53 is near you right now is probably into you. So you feel confident. Yeah. Totally. And just, I mean, for people that have never had a wax or a sugaring treatment or whatever, like, just for reference, the asshole hurts the least when you're back there. It's the best part. So some people don't know that.
Starting point is 01:03:09 They think of like, okay, well, I want to start with just hair removal. And they're like, it's going to hurt so much in my ass crack. It's like, you were in for a treat. I love the way that feels. Especially when they've yanked every other hair out of the front. And they're like, are you ready for the back? I'm like, fuck yes. Get back there.
Starting point is 01:03:24 You're like, let's be there all day. No, it's the best part of it. I love that part of it. Yeah. So, anyway. I don't know. It's been so long since I've been waxed. I don't even remember like what that feels like.
Starting point is 01:03:34 Are you? I shave. You shave? Also, Akira just shaves her pussy. Yeah, I just shave. I've always found that like, the thing I don't like about waxing is like you have to wait for it to grow back a little. You're totally right.
Starting point is 01:03:47 Yeah, there's no, if you have to be clean, you do kind of have to. Yeah. It's not like porn friendly. But I will say, if you're someone who suffers from ingrown hairs, I have the greatest, greatest product. This is not an ad, by the way, like in any shape or form.
Starting point is 01:04:02 There's no code. It's this stuff called Tend skin. Duh. Girl. Yeah. Amazing. No, Tenskin is like a cult favorite. It's changing. And honestly, if you're going to do it,
Starting point is 01:04:15 just know that it's a little bit of a burn. It's got alcohol in it. So you kind of just... I kind of like it, though. I know. So I had this like quarantine bush. and I, like, fully shaved it. It took me like an hour, like, in back in May.
Starting point is 01:04:29 You ever have that experience? You're like, how are we still here? And I was, like, with my parents and I feel like my dad was like, what is she doing? He wasn't in the room. No, like, he was like, it was like after dinner. He's like, Ashley's been in the bathroom for a long time. But I had the tent skin to kind of like, just put on a cotton ball and you just like swipe it over the area. I'm glad you said that.
Starting point is 01:04:46 It's such a hot tip. That stuff is so good. You get on Amazon. I'm a shaver too. So I'm so glad you guys told me. Yeah, it's good for ingrones. Life changing. Life changing. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:04:57 Some people asked about squirting. I thought we should just address it. Is it real? Can I do it if I've never done it? Do you have anything to say about squirting? Oh my God. I'm like just as clueless as whoever asked this question. I have squirted.
Starting point is 01:05:11 But I'm completely not in control of it. And it doesn't coincide with coming for me. Like it's, it's just like, from my understanding, like the people who know how to make, there are definitely people who know how to make people squirt. And it's something to do with like curving your fingers a little bit up and like rubbing this like gland that's in there. I don't know what the fuck is coming out. Like for me, it's like I look down and it's just like squirting.
Starting point is 01:05:37 Oh, wow. It smells like kind of suspiciously like pee, but I don't know. It doesn't feel like peeing, but it definitely doesn't feel like coming to me. And I'm like, are all these people who are squirting and coming at the same time? Like, are they lying to me? or am I just not lucky enough to be like one of the few that enjoys that? I don't, I really don't know. Well, when you, if you see like, of course, photos could be like not real.
Starting point is 01:06:03 Like we've, you know, manipulated whatever. But I feel like sometimes there'll be like some meme or something of like some vibrator that made you squirt. And you see this like puddle. And I just, I'm thinking of like how was that much liquid even being stored in your body? Like it looks like someone peed to bed. That's the thing. That's why.
Starting point is 01:06:19 I'm not saying people are lying. but like where was it was all that? And where does it go if you don't squirt? That's what I'm saying. Where does it go if you don't squirt? Because I, it looks like someone just beat the bad. It does. I come like twice a day.
Starting point is 01:06:32 I've been masturbating like crazy lately for some different reasons. Just a lot. I've been really sexually charged lately. I cannot, I'm not squirting. I'm having amazing orgasms. I come and that's it. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:43 I don't know. Everybody's body's different. Everybody's body's different. Because your body like it's all the same. It's discharged. whatever, like, it makes its way out of your body, you know, on a normal day. Like, it's, you know, sex. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:57 Like, what are we sweating it out on the days that we don't? Yeah. All the people that don't have to massage that one gland, that's actually just your sweat coming out of your body. Yeah. It's your tears. Yeah, it's our tears. I just, do you remember, like, when you were younger, being embarrassed?
Starting point is 01:07:14 Maybe, maybe not you. But, like, I remember when I was having sex with my first partner ever, like, I was 18. I didn't know. I was embarrassed. that like I would have this big wet spot in the bed or something, you know, and you're like, oh my God, like, I don't, this is embarrassing and now it's just like, that's what it's supposed to be. Like, do you remember that when that clicked where you were like, this is actually hot? Like, this should be like all over the bed.
Starting point is 01:07:34 Because I would just be like, oh, my God. Everything is so embarrassing. Like, everything about sex is so embarrassing when you first start. And it's like such a fucking shame that we feel like that. Right. Because I was like so wet as a teen as a teenager. Well, you're just, you have more lubrication when you're young. it's like you're more fertile, you have whatever.
Starting point is 01:07:52 So you lose it as you get older. So like I feel like I wasted some of those 18, 19, 19, 20 year old years being like embarrassed when I was just like, yeah. Probably low-key sporting. Youth is wasted on the young, okay? I do not look half as hot as I used to look as a kid like Ashley said when I was all juiced up. I know.
Starting point is 01:08:11 I should have been like out here bragging and I was like, oh my God, the bed's too wet. You know what I mean? I have a question for you. I have a personal question. and you can answer as much as you want. So how long have you been married? I've been this time. This is my third marriage.
Starting point is 01:08:28 Oh, it is. Okay. Yeah, and this time I've been married for four years. Okay. And you have a kid on the way. I mean, your partner obviously knew what you did before. You know, is it just, is it as simple as just like he knows this is work? And that's what it is.
Starting point is 01:08:41 And it's not an issue? No. It's like, it's actually like not that simple. So when I, so my husband that I'm with now, we've dated a lot like throughout the years. We've been on again off again since I was. Yeah, like I met him when I was 14 years old. And we've dated on again off again since then.
Starting point is 01:09:00 So he knew me like way before I was in porn. But because he knew me for so long, I think he always knew that like, he definitely always knew that I always wanted to do porn and that, you know, this is like something that I maybe not planned for my future, but wanted for my future for like since way before I ever did it. So when we got back together,
Starting point is 01:09:20 this time around. I was actually still shooting. I was under contract with a company called Wicked Pictures and I was still shooting mainstream porn, but I was only shooting once a month. And when we, you know, started hooking up this time around, he was kind of like, hey, like, I don't want to tell you what to do, but if we're going to like move forward and get more serious relationship-wise, like, I can't handle being with someone who is fucking other people for a living, which is totally valid. Like, I think a lot of people feel that way. And, you know, like, I was at the point in my career where I had been in for, I think, 10 years at that point. I was with a company that I was only shooting one movie a month. And for me, like, I wanted to be with him more than I wanted to shoot
Starting point is 01:10:05 mainstream porn. So I stopped shooting in the mainstream sense for him to try out a relationship with him. So now I shoot, like, my own stuff. Like, I, I, you know, there's, there's so many different ways to do porn now, which is, it was not the case when I first got in. But like now, you know, with platforms like Pornhub, only fans, many vids, like, you can just produce your own stuff, upload it online and make money that way. Yeah. So I make, like, like, I guess what is called like amateur content now. And that's like mainly what I make.
Starting point is 01:10:40 And yeah, so like it wasn't as simple as just like he knows like that's work and that's different. He was not comfortable with it at all. and not like even willing to move forward with the relationship if I didn't. Okay. Thanks for sharing that. Yeah, that's, I'm sure people wanted it now. Absolutely. And I'm pretty fast. People like ask me all the time if I'm like a like a jealous person or I think I'm definitely like less sexually jealous than like the average person. But like yeah, I'm like super jealous. Are you kidding? Like when my ex like talks. If if we're watching a TV show and someone in the show like a character has the same name as his. X, it ruins my day. Like, I'm just like, I'm very jealous. Like, it's not, I'm not like at all immune to that, you know?
Starting point is 01:11:26 So you got it when he was like, hey, I don't want you fucking people. You're like, okay, you know what? And you're like, if we could never hear the name Sarah for the rest of our lives, that would be great. No, when it comes up, like, I'll look over and he's already like, fuck. Oh my God. Like, here we go. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:47 I'm so glad you asked that because I'm sure people were wondering what does it look like to have a relationship in the porn industry. It sounds like you sort of found like the literal perfect balance of like making money and having a relationship. Totally. And like before this I was actually dating someone who was also in the porn industry and he had been for way longer than I had. I think at the point we started dating, he was like approaching his 20th anniversary in porn. So there's definitely like all different ways to do like the porno relationship. And like I think everyone, you know, defines like being faithful somewhere different. Like when I was with my ex, like, it was totally cool for us to like have sex with other people for work. And we eventually did open up our relationship like toward the end when we like didn't like each other that much anymore.
Starting point is 01:12:32 But like for the first couple years, like we were, I guess not technically monogamous, but like we didn't have sex with other people outside of work. Emotionally monogamous. You know, so there's like all different ways. emotionally monogamous, yeah, in the beginning. Cool. Interesting. Yeah. Well, this has been so amazing and eye-opening. I feel like every person's going to shut this down and go fuck. I'm going to go masturbate. Thank you for being here. Tell people where they can find you, a huge Instagram following. I like following you very much. So tell people where they can find you and your work. Yeah. So you can, I also do a podcast called The Pornhub podcast, if you guys ever want
Starting point is 01:13:07 to come on. My Instagram is at Asa Hall. My Twitter is just at Asa Hall. My Twitter is just at Asa Akira, and you can see my porn at free nudes.org. Okay. Amazing. I love your Instagram handle because people like, friends and in high school and stuff, people would sometimes call me Ashhole. Like, so it's just like, it really? Like, did you hate it? It was like lovingly. Like, my best guy friend in high school would call me Ashhole. I can't. And Ashley, I've never told you this. There was this guy in high school, he called me Raynal. Like, Raina Anil. It has plagued me. Someone brought it up the other day when I was.
Starting point is 01:13:43 in Pittsburgh and told other people. I was out with this guy having drinks and another person came over and he told that guy. My name was Raynal and I, I will never forgive it. I love her. Now you just have to get ahead of the story and take control of that. Yeah. Take control of our narrative. I love our new little click. Ashhole, Raynall and us hole. Perfect. We're like the street. The butthole triplets. I love it. Oh my God. You can't sit with us. This is, this has been amazing. I love talking to you so much. Thank you so much for coming on Girls Gotta Eat. Coming on Girls Gotta Eat. I like that. That's our. Thank you for having me. Bye. Bye. All right, guys. We'll hope you enjoyed. And you know where to find us. Girls Gotta Eat Podcast.com. We are at Girls Gotta Eat Podcasts and
Starting point is 01:14:27 Instagram. I'm Ash Hess on Instagram. Raina is reina.org.com.com slash girls got to eat on Twitter and YouTube.com slash Girls Gotta Eat. Get those tickets to the Florida shows. We can't wait to see you all. And we will see next week. Have a good week, guys. Bye.

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