Girls Gotta Eat - Can Two Main Characters Be Together? with Taylor Strecker and Taylor Donohue

Episode Date: December 1, 2025

We are so thrilled to have our friends Taylor Strecker and Taylor Donohue join us (mere weeks before having a baby) to discuss all the things – their decision to have kids even though one partner was unsure, choosing a sperm donor, how they picture their lives changing, and more. We also discuss opposites attracting and whether two main characters can be together, when your partner posts non-approved pics of you, feeling like your friends' careers are outpacing yours, if magicians are hot or not, and the lore between Taylor Strecker and Kate Bosworth. Before the Taylors join us, Ashley has updates on the egg carton and wedding gift bags, and Rayna shares why Etsy keeps canceling her orders. Enjoy! Find Taylor Strecker (and her links) on Instagram at @taylorstrecker, Taylor Donohue @taylordonohue, and listen to the Taste of Taylor podcast. Follow us on Instagram @girlsgottaeatpodcast, Ashley @ashhess, and Rayna @rayna.greenberg. Visit girlsgottaeat.com for more. Thank you to our partners this week: Aura Frames: Get $35 off the bestselling Carver Mat frame at https://auraframes.com with code GGE. Square Space: Get a free trial at https://squarespace.com/GGE and use code GGE for 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain. Skims: Get the perfect gifts for everyone on your list in the Skims holiday shop at http://skims.com. Helix: Get 20% off sitewide at http://helixsleep.com/gge. Saks Fifth Avenue: Get personalized and easy shopping this holiday season at Saks.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You said something to me that fucked me up so bad. It was definitely after you were pregnant or maybe right before. This podcast is a Dear Media production. Hi guys. Hi guys. What are I saying? Raina. You're getting too heated talking about something. A terrible man. Yeah. Welcome back to another episode of Girls Got to eat. Welcome back. That's how I opened your wedding ceremony. I forgot. Are you going to wish me happy one month anniversary. It's December 1st. Done talking about you. I know, I know.

No, I'm just kidding. No, happy anniversary. Right. I'm getting. But I'm glad it's December. Why? Okay, hear me out. Do you think November is the worst month?

Okay, historically, I will say, you know, October is always like my special month because I meet everybody. November is every year I get really depressed, you know, like my depression sets in. It's not seasonal depression. Like, people just start doing stuff to me. November is a hard month for me. People are saying it's a bad month because it is the, the,

time change and the seasonal depression would get dark at 4 o'clock, but nothing, just Thanksgiving, that's all we got. It's like at the end of the month. I don't hate it, but I get it. We barely have Thanksgiving this month. It's November 28th.

Well, it was November 28th. Like, there is just nothing to be doing. Well, what do you think the worst month is? March. March and April are tough for me because April, you're like, it's not supposed to be this cold anymore. You know, you're like, I've done

this for three months. In New York. Yes. Yeah. We've lived in L.A. for three years. Right. It's like, you know,

when it's April in New York. Where I'm going to live. I think really what is good about March. I mean, my mom's birthday, shout out. But I think there's no holiday, really. Do you think April's good? March and April are the two worst months. By far.

Yeah. They're just lifeless and it's just dark out. Wait, when do the clocks get turned back again? Not until May. I don't know. I don't know. I don't fucking know. Yeah.

But anyway, let us know you guys worst months in the comments. It's a battle for March and April. I mean, January, you and I have had really good marches in April's. We've usually been on tour or started a tour, and those have been really great. But March and April. Yeah. Okay. All right.

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Oh, my gosh. So we're recording this before Thanksgiving, obviously, but I was telling you that flights for Sunday post Thanksgiving, which is usually one of the biggest travel days of the year, were the most expensive I've ever seen booking flights maybe ever. They were $900 one way in coach. It felt crazy. And it felt like predatory because comfort or whatever the next tier up is, depending on the airline. And then first, even lay flats, like there wasn't that much of a disparity.

I mean, they were maybe $1,000, $1,000, $3,000. But like the $1,000 one-way coach seats, I'm like, what is going on? Also, that was before everything got back to normal. Oh, okay. But that day, I mean, which was yesterday now, the plan was as of now, I flew on that day. And we flew out of Boston to come back to L.A. at 6 a.m. in comfort. Well, also, they just know people have to fly this day. Exactly. Exactly. You have no other options.

I used to always try to do Saturday, though, because that Sunday after Thanksgiving is so brutal. So I hope you guys didn't have any serious travel nightmares yesterday. I may have. Who's to say? Getting back to L.A. from Pittsburgh is a lot. It's a lot. That's what I'm doing today. And we are 12 days out from our holiday show in New York.

It will be Saturday, December 13th at BAM, which is the Brooklyn Academy of Music, our first really big, our first holiday show in Brooklyn. We are so excited, going to have all the extravagant, fun performances and gifts and all the things you've come to expect. A girl's got to each show. And of course, more. They're always different than what you've seen. And they're always tailored to whatever city we're in.

And we can't wait. It's going to be so fun. One show all year. And this is it. This is it. So we'll see you guys there. You can get tickets to Girls Gotteeat.com. We can't wait to see you.

Yes. Okay. So I have something funny to share. I have an egg carton update. So if you're near around here, my husband and I passed back this two egg carton and it was in our vows and whatever. There's a whole lore behind it. It's been going on since what feels like forever, a long time, six months now plus.

And I've had it at the altar with our rings at the wedding. And I'm like, what am I going to do next? And so what is she going to do next? We had these two pairs of Adida shoes that we had to bring back. Like he was going to change into a pair at the wedding and then he didn't. So we never wore them. He was going to return them. And then he had picked me up another pair of the gold sneakers I wore because I thought

I needed a smaller size, but I didn't. Whatever, regardless, that's not important. Two pairs of shoes, Adita shoes, going back to the store where he bought them in Santa Monica, the promenade store. So we were supposed to take them last weekend and we didn't get around to it. So they were in my car, just like two shoe boxes in the back. And we just left him in the car. We're like, we'll do them next weekend when we're running errands.

So this was yesterday. So we're running errands. I had put the egg card into one of the shoeboxes. Because you know that the salesperson will always lift up. Every time you've returned shoes, they open the shoebox to, they usually take them out to make sure they're both the right shoes. They're the same size. You're not trying to scam them in some way.

Yeah. The salesperson is going to open the box. They're going to see the egg carton. So then last week, though, while they were in my car, I'm like, oh, my God. Like, what if he gets them out of the car and returns them on his own and I'm not with him? So I was so scared about it. And I'm like, I'm just not going to bring it up. And I'm sure we'll do it together over the weekend.

So yesterday we went to Adidas. And I had butterflies. Like, it's going to happen. And also, like, what if he opens it before you get to the Adidas store? No, so I was like, is Shishon going to open these? Like, the way that I envisioned it was the sales guy would open it. Yeah. But also, I'm up at the counter, like, hovering.

because also what if this salesperson opened it and Shishong didn't look or he was on his phone or something. So they do mine first, whatever. He takes it. And it was like, I was on the edge of my seat. He takes the shoebox and the guy opens it and picks it up like it was trash and tossed it at us. Like it was trash. You thought it was trash. Oh, he just gave it back to you.

Like the way he didn't he say to you like, do you want me to throw this out? He was moving quick. He was like someone. that was really trying to be efficient and get his job done, popped it open, he sees a piece of trash, throws it at Shishonk, I covered my mouth and ran away. I was like, like, I almost bust out. The way he threw it, like, get this trash out of here.

And Shishonk, like, literally was like so shocked and he wanted to laugh. And I just abandoned him at the, you have really stepped your game up. This is funny. Yeah, it went, we went retail. This is insane. You brought a third party into this. But when I tell you, I really was felt nervous. Like, am I going to be able to execute this?

And the way. A lot of things could have gone wrong. That guy could have just kind of lifted up the flap and kind of put it back down. You guys wouldn't have seen it. He could have been on his phone. I mean, a lot of things could have gone wrong. And how he reacted, he could have been like, what is this? The way he just was like, ugh, these people have trash in their box.

Didn't he threw it. Like, get it out of here. Shoshan caught it. And I ran away. I was in the back of the store. I don't know how you're going to top this. I don't know what you're going to do. I sit up at night sometimes we just think about it.

How are we going to top this? This was pretty good. That was really good. You know what he's probably going to try to do? I'm just going to get ahead of it because I love to be right and I like to have a receipt for being right. He's probably going to try to wrap it under the Christmas tree. Basic. It's not even creative.

I know. That would be so uncreative. I know. Okay. But like he, let me think of other ways we could be. like you need you to turn it into an ornament and it'll just be on the tree. That'd be good. You guys have a tree at home?

We're about to put the tree up. Real or fake? I got a fake one. Yeah. We're barely here for the next two months. When we were long distance, we got a tree the last two Christmases in Boston and it would be in his apartment. And yeah, we're not going to be here a lot. So I just have this like fake one.

I wanted to get my first Christmas tree ever. I was so excited. But I'm like the whole month of November of December. I'm not going on here. Yeah. So what would be? be the point, but I think I'm team fake tree. What did you have growing up?

Always. Oh, I don't know who I'm asking. Your dad, obviously. My dad, this year with his new hip. I can't wait. He's about to go out. They cut him down right from the yard. Yeah, I don't even know what I'm talking about.

I come there every year. It's my ninth Christmas family. Yeah, like, we walk around the farm and we're like, how about that one? And he just goes out and cuts it down. That's your dad so manually. Yeah. Like brings it in. So, yeah, always, always real.

Always real. Okay. And as it is a month from the wedding, I am ready to break my silence on gift bag gate. This has been an ongoing developing situation. I've talked about it a little bit. I don't want to talk about it too much because I get upset and people are like, what happened with the gift bags?

I have a few DMs about it. So I'm ready to tell you guys. I did bring yours. You know that you gave it. Who should you give it to the other day and I just opened up her bag? I brought one to Brittany. Brittany. And I just opened up her bag and started going through it at dinner.

Okay. So we're going to do an unboxing on air. But I just want to say, so there was just some miscommunication at the wedding. And the gift bags really did not get. out. Like, I did a total of 80, which I did the math on couples, one per couple, and then people who weren't couples. And then people who just came on Saturday, you're not going to get a gift bag, especially if you live in L.A. Like, they're mostly of people who've traveled and are checking into the hotel. And so I did 80. Only about 30 of them went out. And I don't want to throw any better

to the bus. I'm going to take a lot of blame for myself. I've been beating myself up nonstop. Like, I put so much time into these, like picking that perfect little jute bag. Obviously, Jacqueline wait in on that. The ribbon, I customized that ribbon. It matched the wedding colors and then we're going to go through what's in them. But I spent so much time and money on them. And for them not to get out to people, like, I wanted people to have this experience when they got to our wedding that, like, Ashley and Shoshanke, like, did this for us. I did 20, 25 gift bags for my birthday. I worked so hard on them. If somebody, I even drove to the other house in traffic just to leave them on people's beds. I would have been devastating. 80. 80. I'm going to

put some videos up on the screen. Like, it took us a whole day to stuff them all, but even aside, so we'll go through it together. But every step of the way, like, that bag was a separate purchase on Etsy from the ribbon and the customized tag from everything that's in it. There's some custom stuff in it. It took me so much time. It was my whole personality. Like, Shishong was like, say gift bags one more time. Like, it became my whole personality. We need to drive them all over to the W a separate day because it wouldn't fit obviously on the day of. Like, so much time and energy and for them not to get out to people. It really took me down. No, it would take 25 costs me a fortune. Yeah. So I can't even imagine. And so there was just some miscommunication again. Like I, I want to take some blame and I've

had some apology since. Like, everybody's upset that they didn't get out that the way that they should have. And by the time I kind of remembered it was like too late, whatever. But I wanted to do to open yours. So I wanted to do not like a flat tote. I wanted to have something that sat up, but it wasn't too big because I didn't want to put that much stuff in it. So this is this little jute bag and then the little ribbon on it. I love the little jute tote. And it says, welcome. Thank you for making the trip to be here with us. We are so excited. You're here and we can't wait to celebrate with you. I love Ashley and Shishon. A little ribbon. Who tiled all the ribbons? He did the ribbons. He put a lot of work into this. Okay. Okay. So what we did was he and I never did real invitations. We did

everything electronically. So this is our commemorative invitation. So what we did that I felt was different was that we basically gave people an invitation when they arrived or a commemorative invitation. No one's doing this. Okay, but what's important to me is that the itinerary is in here. The it's just like, you know what? Everybody texted me all day, every fucking day. What are you wearing? You know what? No one texted me. What time do we have to be there? Not one person asked me. Okay, good. At that wedding website. Yeah. Okay. So this was just like a welcome and that. Doesn't that look that matches the hotel lobby? Like we put so much time into these fucking invitations.

It's beautiful. I'll put them up on the screen. Okay. I don't know what I'm going to do with this now. I'm just going to save it. Yeah, it's commemorative. Commemorative invitation. Okay.

Next, let's pull out those snacks. Okay. So just a few snacks. Okay. A bunch of mini snacks. I love Cheetos. What's your favorite snack? Doritos.

Doritos. Doritos. Doritos, not your cheese. Chitos. So there was a mix. Doritos Cheetos and then sweet. Sweet. We want to do sweet and savory.

So you have your Oreo mini's. Also, cookies, I think Oreos are the best in terms of small cookies to put in a bag. You got one of the premium ones. Because, you know, chocolate chip cookies, they do be getting stale. And the stale one is not one. Okay.

Next, let's bring out the liquid IV. Okay. So everyone got three sticks to liquid IV. I can't. We didn't have this. I know. What was I supposed to do about my hangovers? Besides walk it off.

Exactly. So we did lemon, lime, guava, and grapefruit. Oh, you got two guavas. I'm sorry about that. I wanted everyone to get one of each. I'm not a big pompal moose fan in general. The grapefruit is elite. But okay, so there's your liquid IV.

So thank you to them. They provided the product. There are only two things left in there, right? Okay, let's do the money piece. The money shot. Okay. Okay, so this is the thing I was the most sad about. So it's a custom candle.

It says, for better or for worse, it's a picture of Azul with his old teeth. We'll put it up on the screen. So I knew what I wanted to do for the label, the picture of Azul and the tagline, and then Anna designed that. And the company is called SoulCent. So do you remember, they made candles for us?

Mine was like big and pink and had the girls got a logo. With the wicker flame? Yeah, they have the wooden wick. So SoulCent, I was like, they know the show. They've made us candles before. And I reached out to them. We're like, would you guys be able to do this?

Can you make 80 of these? And so it was so fun to collab with them. They sent me their catalog. And then we decided it has the little cork top. It smells. Amazing. So sometimes you get like gift bags and there's like a full size candle in it. And I'm like, I got to put this in my suitcase.

That'll get you stopped. I got a lug a 20 pound candle back with me. This is an appropriate travel size. Like I just, I saw how small it was. And I was like this. Because you and I like, we go to venues a lot and people give us gifts. And it's always a full-sized candle, which I appreciate it. It's expensive.

But a glass jar candle lugging that back, perfect size. Yeah. Okay. So the last thing, I threw it in there for you, but this was something that was out at the reception. But we're going to send them out with the gift bags, which I'll get to. But this was out at the reception. And so these were just custom matches.

These are beautiful. Yeah. Jacqueline was like, let's do some custom stuff. Let's get lit. I think it's beautiful. I like the gold and the green. So the custom matches. Listen, the W was great.

And I love them. And they could not have been a more amazing wedding. But if someone would be fucking with my gift bags, I would be so. It was like it, it was miscommunication across a few lines. Yeah. And, you know, not everybody stayed at the hotel. So we knew that. They were supposed to get out at a different time and it just didn't happen.

And it was like, I didn't communicate properly. And again, I would, I beat myself up about this for weeks. Because when I realized that most of them weren't out, I was like, it was like a gut punch. Like, I couldn't believe it. So what I'm doing now is a full fucking PR mail out of these gift bags. Raina, if you're watching this and you came to the wedding and you didn't get one, it will probably be on the way. I'm going to do my best.

What I'm doing now is I have made custom thank you cards for people that got gifts for us with a photo from the wedding. They've already arrived. I got them expedited. Custom photo thank you cards with a gift in the same month as the wedding. That is elite bride level unlocked. Basically, I'm just trying to keep the wedding going at this point. I have a spreadsheet. I'm like working with a local shipper to execute.

People are like, oh, I thought we were done with the wedding. You're like, no, we're doing it every week. So Santa Monica mailboxes shipping center. Just make sure you get the right one. It's on Broadway. Ray and I went in there. We're like doing this together. And we're recording this kind of farther out.

It's still November as we're doing this. Everyone will get them so far the first batch by the end of the month. I don't know a bride that isn't like I'm done. I'm done here. I've done enough. I can't look at these in my house. Like they upset me too much. I guess, yeah, what would you do with them?

And I spent money on these. And I'm going to spend more. Yeah, you're trying to spend more money on them now. But I really want to support. this shipper, this local business, like, they are so wonderful to me and they take all my packages back and they're so great. And I'm like, I want to give you the business. So I'm really trying to spin this to make it a positive and make myself feel better because this took me down for a while. I was upset. To spend money and then I have to spend more money is rough when you're just like,

I did the wedding. We paid for the wedding. But it is really kind of taken over my life. And Shishonk is like, I'll do this whole thing if I never have to hear the word gift bag again. Like he's come close to where I was like he's, I had to shut the fuck up about the get back. Hyper fixate. Yeah, I'm super. I mean, you know I like to just say the same thing over and over and over again. I mean, how short would my voice notes be if I just didn't say the same thing four times? I get it.

I wasn't able to shake it. So that's what I'm up to, everyone. The tour's over. The wedding is over. This is all I have to live for. And then what Rain is doing in 2026. You'll come with fake. Should we bring a few of these to a holiday show?

The front row gets your kids. Get bags. And you're like, Shishonk and I are so happy you could come here. It's a thank you for me. The commemorative invitation? I think you should. Thank you. I think you should.

It won't say for me. We'll cross his name out. We'll make him do that. He'll be like, I'll do it if you just stop talking about this. Okay. Well, I'm bringing some of these. Sorry to the guests that should get them. They're going to go to the girls going to eat.

I love the edge. Community now. No, I'll get them out eventually. I have never gotten a gift bag this nice at a wedding. Who has? That means the world. Who? or after a wedding.

Definitely not after a wedding. Welcome to L.A. gift bag. It's really, the jute bag is really nice. The snacks are on point three liquid IVs. You must be rich. That is crazy.

Look at what he sent that. The hydration multiplier. All these people and be like, did you get a gift bag? And everyone's like, no, but it's okay. And I'm like, it's not okay. It's not okay. Shishonk's like, please, please say you got it.

He said and texted other people. Every single person I've texted us said, it's okay and I said it's not okay. All right. It's not over. This is not over. My table versus your table is crazy right now. You have like a nice clean table with your phone and your iPad and your water.

I have dildos. I have the whole content of this bag on here. I have loom. I have a little candle. I look crazy. All right. Well, you did a great job with the gift bags. It was very thoughtful.

It's not really me. I'm not like a, you're more of a. I did the gift bag. bags for your bachelor's. Yeah, but you're more of a, like, hostess. Like, I'm not, I was really proud of myself because it doesn't feel like so natural to me to do cutesy stuff. I'm just not like crafty or hosty typically. You are a much more thoughtful gift giver than I am. You know, I just, I'm just, I'm not a thoughtful gift giver. You always say that and then you do good gifts. I don't. I don't do good gifts. You're a fish for compliments. No, I just, I've always said this every, one year you got me a painting.

And I was like, I just have to spend $800 on a bag for her. I can't match the niceness of this. I made out that one. That was because you spent the money. But like it was so profoundly thoughtful. You commissioned a painting that said girls got to eat. It was so beautiful. And I was like, I'm going to get your Wysel bag.

Yeah. Totally equal. Yeah, I like that kind of gifty crafty. Etsy is just great. I've really, you've always been an Etsy person. I mean, a hot take Etsy. But I feel like I'm really. on Etsy a lot now. And I'm obviously trying not to do Amazon as much as I can.

I'm glad that you brought this up. Okay. I've been meaning to tell you this. So the, the Bear Cup, the Starbucks Bear Cup, I was like, I will get one. I will get one and I will get it for cheaper. And I kept seeing on Etsy, there were, I send you this, this photo. Like, there are, there are stores that are telling it for $40,000. The Starbucks Bear Easter Cup, it's a 20-ounce glass commemorative, like, Starbucks Cup. We talked about it the other day. Employees are, like, stealing these and selling them on the black market. People want them. They're selling for like $2,500, $5,000. And there was like a couple of Etsy stores that I kept finding that were like

$40, $50, $60 for the cup. And I was like, you fucking idiots, look how quick I can get this. I have ordered from three Etsy stores and all three orders have been canceled. Because Etsy is in there just cancel, cancel, cancel, cancel. Oh. Cancelling the stores. Because they're fake. They're fake.

They're fake. Well, good for Etsy. You always think you found a loophole. This is like the Lafoofoofoo. you were like, oh, I got you this Labibu. They let me open all the boxes and its feet spin around and it's all scratched up, but I'm sure it's real. I thought I was like, you idiots spending like $500 for a cup.

That's crazy. Etsy's like your order's been canceled. Three separate stores on Etsy in the last week have canceled my order. Oh my gosh. So I guess you do have to spend $500 to $2,500 on this cup. I want that cup. I love that cup. All right, well, we'll start to go fund me.

And we'll get you that cup and you guys follow my Instagram for my Etsy links. I'm going to link that bag. Have you ever seen anything like that? That was like, you know how when you're like, I need this thing that I don't know if it exists. Like I was like, I want a stand up small compact gift bag that's not paper, not throw away, not a canvas tote. Canvas tootts are so floppy. Yeah, something easy to pick up. And Jacqueline, here's the link.

Icon. I like it for L.A. It's like Jute. It's not a giant bag. It's a small bag. Again, I don't like when people give me things that are too big to carry back home. I don't have the space. Yeah.

I barely had the space in my luggage to go back to Venice from Hollywood. The one thing missing out of it is water bottles. I was going to ask you. Yeah, it just, we, I'm going to feel like it. For 80 people, that's a lot of, it's heavy. We would have had to do tiny, I don't know. It was crowded in there. But he was like, we're going to get people liquid IV without water.

I'm like, they can figure out the water. I agree. You were staying at a hotel. Yeah, there's water. There's a sink, figured out. Yeah. It's not New York City water. It's gross water.

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thank you for putting respect in our name. They came out here to film something. We might get it out of them. We might not. Please welcome back to the show Taylor Struggler and her wife for the first time ever at Taylor Donahue. Hey, girl, hey. Hey, girl, hey, look at her.

She is just a dose and she's stealing my moniker. Hey, girl, the panic between you two. Are we going to do it? Well, Raina recorded with Andrew Call this week. Like, he subbed in for me. And she said hi guys and he didn't respond. Like for eight years we've done hi guys, hi guys. And Andrew just sat back.

I don't realize that I'm like waiting for it back. It's like, um, is it Pavlov's dog? Like you just, you wait for like the bell to ring and then you get like the satisfaction. Like I said hi guys and I'm just used to like putting out my hand and getting a treat and like nothing happened. Hi guys. I know. I get that with the Hey girl Hey. It's like sometimes people refuse to say it back to me.

And I get it. It's a little chukes. But it is what it is. you know. No, that's who we are. Right. Yeah. Hi, guys.

Hey, girls. Hey, girl. Thanks for having us. Congrats to the newlywed. Oh, thanks. I know. I'm so sad. We weren't there.

You guys were invited, but you didn't make it. We were. We were, the FOMO is beyond. We literally were working, which I know sounds crazy, but trust and believe we were. Well, I want to tell you that I did get not one, but two, go birds and my vows. No. Really? You said them or Shoshan said to them.

Set them. Really? Yeah. And the Thursday night, like, after party after the welcome drinks, I was, like, joking about it at the table. And he was like, you're not going to do that. You're not really going to do it. What do you mean? Of course I am.

I only had one planned. And at the end, I just, I kind of panicked and I just did it again. You ended the speech. It was great. Like, the last one I just did like a copern. It's like, should I dare I do it again? It's like a cheers. It's just like, go words.

Exactly. We got rave reviews about your speech. Oh, you're officiating. We told you. Andrew. He was like it was a roast slash officiating. The whole night was a roast. Oh, your dad.

Yeah, the thing happened. We heard it all. Everyone stood up, like, ran around the room. It was just like an insane thing. It looked like so much fun. And it was all three nights. Everything looked so fun. I am just so happy for you.

So you guys are out here. You're filming something maybe, and I don't know if you can tell us. We're out here working. We are... For a few months. Yeah, I mean, we film our podcast. You know, every time we go to your media. So we're doing that.

Yeah. We're staying busy. We're staying very busy. I love how cool you are. Also, you're pregnant. As shit. When are we going to? Pregnant as shit, yes.

You know, I'm eight months pregnant. When's your day? January 4th. Oh, my God. And no offense to this baby, but I'm ready for her to get the fuck out of my body. Yeah. Oh, my God. I'm not. I'm like, stay in there forever.

Stay in for another 10 months. I don't care. We were at the Badge of Castle last night. You guys been there? No. So we were supposed to go for my birthday. You know, with Taylor. She was going to bring me.

And then it was closed for like renovations. Like we like had tickets. I'm devastating. Dying to go. It was so much fun. But we were there for six hours. It was crazy. And I thought I was going to die.

Yeah. Are you walking around here? Yeah. And waiting in line to get into little shows before the big show. Yeah. Six hours was a little too long. That's a long time on your feet. Wait, you have to be there for six.

Now. Well, there are benches like in line. Yeah, you could sit a little bit, but you're totally dressed up. People are in like black tie. Oh yeah. Oh, yeah. I mean, I love magic. So it was like amazing. Totally. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. She like wants to become a magician now. I take a magic class online when I'm alone. No, yeah. Like I love magic. I did not know this about her before. I agreed to marry her. And had I known, it might have gone differently. No, I think that's so cool. I want to learn. I don't want to learn, but I want to know how magic is done. Where do you take a magic class? Julianmagic.com. I pay $12.99 a month. I haven't done classes in like a year. I haven't done it in so long, but I keep paying for it because I don't want to quit. You know, if I'm still paying, I'm still in it technically. Have you learned magic? Yeah, I'll do something later. What's your best magic?

I'll do it later. She has one on her phone. It's a good one. It's really good, actually. What is it? I feel like you could actually do it right now. I'll think about it. Okay.

Is it like card game magic or like make a ring disappear magic? Like what kind of magic? I was like a calculator trick. Okay. And then I have, I need like a salt shaker. I have a salt shaker trick. Where do you make it disappear? Mm-hmm.

I make it go through a table. Okay. Well, let's do it at the bar. Yeah, we're going to a bar. Every time the burns score tonight. I'll do a magic trick. Okay. Would you date a magician?

Okay. It's like, magicians or, no, no, I'm... A man magician. Actually, I have to stop because the reason we got into the magic castle was because of a man magician. shout out to Phil the Magic Man. He is the fucking best. Okay, I want to answer this question.

Magicians are like DJs to me. It's embarrassing until it's not embarrassing. I don't think DJs are. If you're just, I want to date with that DJ, he was 45, he had a roommate, he wasn't successful. Okay. If you were a successful DJ and you're good at it, hot. I think that's cool. Magicians, kind of the same thing to me.

It is. No, you know what I think is cool? Mentalism. Who is that? Mentalist, like, and read your mind and stuff. That's Phil the magic man. Okay. He's a mentalist.

Isn't that it's a little creepy? No? Yes, but also Phil will like explain to you. He's like, I'm not a magician. This is not magic. I'm just really good. I'm a mind reader. Like you think of something and he literally knows what you're thinking.

No, no, no, no. I like, I know what it is. Like Edward Cullen. It's like implanting. Like they know where they want to end. So they're just really good at like placing it in your head subconsciously. You don't think it's like a psychic? You're not making it sound any less creepy.

I think it's like Jennifer Aniston's boyfriend. I think he's like... They have no therapist. Yeah, he like... Oh, he plants... That's how he got her. That is how he got her. She was on his vision board.

He was like, oh, he wrote that book and he was like, I will get it to her somehow. And I'm gonna fuck Jennifer Randston. With his potions. Kind of like Travis Kelsey a little. What? Yeah. You know, he manifested. Yeah, with friendship bracelets.

Yeah. Live your dreams. You live your dreams. You don't live your dreams. Become a magician. For real. I am. I'm not threatened by that.

at all. I disagree in that I don't think it's hot at the top level. Like if I know I'm not, it's not for me. Like okay, I guess top level of like DJ I would still date a mid range DJ. That's still cool to me. Yes. That's my point. A magician would need to be like have a Hulu deal. They would need to be like David Blaine. But a Vegas residency. Or just well what about the foodie magician? Like if you're a if you're an entrepreneur hustler, you're businessman. Okay. So he makes a ton of That's what I'm saying. Like, blown around the country.

Yes. I'm into, if you're a, you're a business man. Yes. Like, you're just happy to do magic. That's how I'm going to tell you to my friends.

Okay. Like he's a millionaire. He's just, yeah, he's a millionaire and he does it with magic. But magicians are a little weird usually. Like, DJ's not weird usually.

I will say we've met a lot of magicians. And actually, I think they're getting better and better and better. From like a branding perspective, you know, they need better PR is what they need. Yeah, Magic is back.

You heard it here first. Wait, Chris Angel, though, he's a freak. I can see that. We saw him. She waited in line, in line to go on stage. That's her people. To try on his straight jacket. It was the losiriest thing I've ever witnessed in my entire life.

And it was COVID. So I'm like sitting sitting with a mask on for like 40 minutes. I was not happy. I got up on stage. I tried it on. And then I saw the picture that like I could buy for like a million dollars. And I was like, I don't want this picture. I can't have this proof that I did this.

Did he ever date like a famous celebrity or anything? I don't know. Like is he a thing? I mean, you're his number one fan. You tell us. Yeah, right. As part of the community, Taylor. I mean, he never did anyone famous.

There's been scandal with him. He's not a good guy. No. He was telling jokes on that stage. He said so many cancelable things on that stage. It was, he was giving like creepy vibes. He was giving back massages. Back massage energy.

With his words. Did you know that? Are you guessed it? I just guessed it. He has back massage on stage on. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Wait, I got massaged on stage. By him to the Chippendales, the same stripper. Oh, my God. Literally, like, Raina basically touched his dick and me, he lightly rubbed my shoulders.

I was like, there's two types of girls. He was like, you got a knot right there. And meanwhile, I'm the bride. Like, I was like, I don't want to do it. Raina loves to be hummed. And Raina's small. Like, that's why I don't like to be stripped on either. Like, she's a perfect, like, stripper, like, doll. Yes, yes. She can be just flipped around. Like if they picked us up, our legs would like touch the, they wouldn't come off the floor. You know what I'm saying? Like, we were hanging down their back. Okay, some strippers have tried to pick up Ashley and they can't do it.

No, the way that the, when it looks. When a striper tries to pick me up, I am like when I try to pick a zoal up. Like I literally ground like all to the floor. Like four paws down. I don't want to be picked up. One time they came towards me in Toronto when we had a hockey stick for a prop on stage and I had the stick like trying to fight him off and he was coming closer. One stripper in Texas There's a great photo of us doing it

He made me hold Ashley's waist He's stripped on me And picked me up and had to use her bodies And encourage Okay, anyway So you're loving her being pregnant Anyway, I'm pregnant Yes, I'm loving it

What do you love about it? Well, I'm loving it because the baby's still in there That's why I love her being pregnant You don't want to be a mom yet I'm like this is so fun With her living in there And I can drive her around Oh, D-D, that's so.

fun. I mean, listen, I am scared of shit to have a baby. Like, I am like, we love sleep so much. I finally started sleeping so well once we came out here. I don't know what it is, but I've been sleeping through the night. That happens. And I'm like, oh my God, it's going to go away in three seconds flat. So I don't know. I'm just, I'm excited to meet her. I think you're more excited to meet her. I am just, I'm really freaked out. I'm really scared. I'm really scared. I'm glad you said that. I think that a lot of people are really scared to be a parent. And they don't say it. Not that you are lying. I believe that you are like, like a normal amount of scared.

I'm an abnormal amount, but I think more people feel like me and they just don't say anything. Can we talk about the decision? Yes. Because you've been super open about not knowing if you wanted to have kids and then I'm curious,

did you always want to have kids? Like, how did you guys come to this decision? Yeah, and then I want to talk about the fear is anchored in. So let's do all of it. Okay. I've always wanted to have kids. Yes.

And I've always wanted to be pregnant. Yes. It's been like a dream. Like a vision board, right? It's just one of those things. Like I look at pregnant women and I'm like, I just want to know what that feels like.

Yeah. And I was never ready until earlier this year I was at the grocery store. I remember and I saw a pregnant woman and I felt jealous for the first time. And I was like, whoa, I've never felt that way. And she came home and told me and I felt guilty. So I always say I love her more than I love not having kids. Okay. So I'm just so selfless.

It's like unbelievable. But she really wants kids. So I was like if she's going to be with her, which I mean, she's my life. Yeah. I'm going to have to like make concessions. And I just felt like if we didn't have kids, you would probably resent me forever. And if we do have kids, I'll probably resent you. But I think if one of us has to resent the other, I'd rather be the resenter.

I love the honesty. You see people talk about that. Like, what would you rather regret more having kids or not having kids? Did you guys talk about this before you got married? No. You thought she would just change her mind. Yeah. I figured she would just give in.

That's what a lot of people think. Yeah. She was, I mean, we've been together for 10 years. So it took a very long time to get there. But I also like, when you came home for the grocery store and said that, I was like, you what she's waited so long like it's fucking time like we had we already had done IVF like we had the embryos ready to go like three and a half years ago we did that oh I was really pushing this shit off as long as I could to be honest you're like wow they disappeared so weird I don't know we forgot

shut down oh they thought they thought they thought they forgot to pay the bill they rot no we were really trying to time it around this project that we have in L.A and that's the truth yes and you want to get pregnant for the project no no no like we wanted to wait I wanted to wait so I kept using that as an excuse like getting pushed and pushed. And finally we were like, fuck it. I'm just going to be pregnant for this project. Yeah. You guys are really busy though. I mean, you've been on tour with Stasi Schroeder for many years and you produce a daily podcast. Yep. When do you even know, like, now's the time. We're ready. You know, you're really busy. I just really followed your lead, I guess, on it. But,

but you said something to me that fucked me up so bad. It was definitely after you were pregnant or maybe right before. But you said something. Like I was like, well, what would you have done if I, like, said, I didn't want to have kids. And, like, that was a 100% no-go. And she was like, I would have been upset, but like, I would have been okay. And I was like, it would have been okay? What the fuck? I don't remember saying that.

You're welcome, little girl. Yeah. Because I really, I think I would have dug my heels in a little bit more. And I knew this was an option? I didn't know. It was an option. But I do think that there's a part of me that may have regretted not having a child. Yeah.

So I'm like, you know what? You never wanted to be pregnant, though. No. That seems like an easy to. decision on who was going to carry. Oh, my, like, my insides are the upside down. Like, when they went in there with the mom, they were like, good thing you don't want to carry. Because you like cannot. Wait, I have a question. Taylor, Stracker, so you were married. You were on our show years ago. We talked about this a lot. So I encourage you guys to go back to listen. But you were

married to a man prior to you guys being married. Did you think back then when you were with him, you guys might have kids? Are you always been, I'm out on it? No, I just, so when I married was been, I was just like going through the motion. So I was just checking the boxes of life. So kids was definitely on that list. It was a box. But like, I was taking plan B like it was, I mean, vitamins. Like I, every, we didn't have sex a lot. But like there was three times a year that it happened, I was running to get plan B. So I definitely was aware enough that I didn't want kids, but I thought it was I didn't want kids with him.

Because like, just like there was just like so much fighting and chaos. So. Which is a smart decision. Right. I feel like we've seen that. I feel like we have some friends that were like, I think she wants kids just not with him. I think you see that. Yeah.

So I kind of thought that. that's what it was for me. But then I don't know. I just kind of, I think I also became the breadwinner, like, in my mind after we got divorced. And I was always, like, depending on a man to take care of me. That was a mind fuck for you. It was.

I was brought up really traditional. And so then when we got together, I was like, wait, I'm the man now. And, like, I just, I saw the world through a different lens. And so then I was like, well, kids, money is my biggest fear and trigger. And so then it's like, well, children equal money. And so maybe I'm just scared of money. It's not even that I'm scared of the child. I'm just scared of how much the child's going to cost me.

It's good to think about that. You need money. I mean, people are just like, when people say to me, like, we'll see what happens. Listen, no, you guys do whatever you want. But to not plan a bank account and be able to afford it. In New York. The people that are like the will just, if it happens, it happens. People, I'm like, you are living free on a level that I cannot imagine.

In this economy? In this economy. That doesn't keep you up at night? Yeah. Like, that would keep me up. And Taylor Donahue, you always want to keep it. kids? Yes. Okay. No matter what. Even if you were single, I feel like you were like, I'm going to have a child. No matter what. Yeah. Yeah, I always wanted a big, big family. Well, okay. Listen, listen. I, we're at

high, hi, baby girls in there. I might really dig my heels in. I'm just saying. One at a time. TPD, TBD. TPD. You got one. One at a time. Yeah, one thing at a time. But like, I already, I can't even go there. I'll get angry. We'll do one thing at a time. How did you pick a donor? It's Andrew Colin. Super hot. Yeah, it's Andrew Colin. Do you want to see him?

Did you have sex with him? Be honest. There's a lot cheaper that way. Oh my God. I kind of wish she had had sex with him. We chose him based off of his looks. Complete vanity decision. But then he happened to be like tall and athletic and smart.

Thank God because we were picking him no matter what. Did you meet him? No, but like the- Do you want to see him? We went through California cryobank. and they have like, it's very thorough. It's like education and baby pictures and adult pictures and God, what else? I mean, it's everything.

They interview them, you hear their voice quality. You hear their voice. I mean, it's really, it's amazing. I mean, it should be thorough. Yes. Yeah. They write essays and if they're musicians, you hear their music. If they're poets, you read their poems.

Oh, yeah. Our guy's not a poet. Do they have to be, I heard this thing the other day. They have to be college education. Or is that not a thing? You know, I think they are. There's really high standards for them. I think what they said,

it's hard to be approved to be in California Cryobank than it is to like get into Harvard. Oh my gosh. Something like that. That's so funny. I might have just made that up. Obviously don't show him on camera, but that's him. Oh, wow. Look at him.

Look at him. Look at him go. Nice. Okay. You guys are going to have an athlete. Yes. I know. Oh, so tall.

So excited. And I just remind me when you donate sperm, Can that person like check a box essentially that says like I will allow myself to be now. Like after like I think it was like five years ago like if you are donating, you have to be open to having the child reach out to you when they turn 18. You have to. There's no more anonymous donating. But like if you have a donor from like 2010, I don't know when the years, but like an older donor,

they might have not. It could be anonymous. When I was, I didn't know what you were asking. So you have to be able to have your children. I'd California Cryobank at least. Reach out. So when I was like broke, 22 years old in New York, I went to an office to talk about donating my eggs. And I had to say whether or not I would allow them to contact me or not, whether or not I would allow the parents to contact me or the child.

Right. Those were different things. And you said? I didn't go through with it. Okay. So I just, I don't know. I go back and forth. I mean, I would want it to be their choice. Right.

I guess. But I was 22. I just changed my mind. Well, we are just going to take a quick break. And we will get back into it. This episode is brought to you by Sacks Fifth Avenue. I am just going to dive right in. It's December 1st.

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But like, is there a limit on how many kids? Yes. So there's legally, they're supposed to be. Well, that's what I'm saying. You can have a bunch of people reaching out. Okay, so it's illegal because people can donate so much sperm that they start having like... Yeah, problems. But their kids might like sleep with these other guy.

Exactly. Too many kids. There's... You know, we've watched that documentary about that guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We never watched it because we got scared. It's horrifying. They can only give 20 vials of sperm.

That's it. We have nine. We have nine of the 20. So 11. And there could be another family that have 11 of them. So there could potentially be just the two of us that have all of his sperm. But when we are done after her. Mm-hmm.

Not okay. Whatever. You can get her biological sibling. Well, yeah. Oh, absolutely. We could sell back the vials of sperm. We could sell the sperm back so that they could go back into rotation. so that more people could use his firm.

Wait, you guys have nine vials. But how many did you use for her? Oh, my God, one. There's like billions in each vial. It's like bananas. And I believe they take them out like individually. You guys bought like potentially nine kids from him. Oh, more.

I mean, I don't know how many vials. I don't know how many vials goes with each vows of IV. That's what I'm saying. That guy could have 20 kids. Oh, yeah. Oh, for sure. Oh, absolutely. So in that documentary, the crazy thing was they said that like siblings in the world when

they meet each other, they feel a familiarity. towards each other, but people can misinterpret it as a romantic family. It's on that. Or SvU. And they can sleep with each other because of that. They have that. I feel like I know you. Yes. California New Cryobank has like an intense sibling registry.

Yes. So they track. And so they'll know. But they also say when your kid hits a certain age, you wouldn't have a conversation with them to say if you're going to sleep with somebody, just like mention. Ask if they have a donor parent. Mention that you have a donor father so that they don't, you know. Put it on your hands.

Honestly, that's such a good way to keep her like from ever. Yeah. You have seven million siblings, so you can't have sex with anybody. Do you want to have sex with your brother or sister? Yeah. We're singing here. You're the lesbians that we are. Because if you guys can stop being so straight. But I definitely, yeah, I'm going to scare her so much with that.

Like, you really don't want to fuck somebody you're half related to. So like, just make sure to like have the discussion before, which is good because you really have to like feel comfortable with somebody to have to have. have a discussion. Yeah. And so she can, you're saying the law's changed, so she legally has to be allowed

to reach out to the donor. Correct. So he is, yeah, he's not anonymous. He is available for reaching out. But like, I also want to be there for that.

Because I also saw in law or SvU that you like fall in love with your donor dad. And also, but it's the same thing as a sibling because it's family. Because you're like, I feel familiarity with this person

they feel like home. Did you ever see the kids are all right? We're Annette. It's literally. It's a horror. It's a horror film for lesbians. Julian Moore and Annette Benning are married. Lesbian moms.

They have kids. And one of them meets the father. The donor dad, Mark Ruffalo. And one of the moms falls in love with him. So Taye doesn't want me to meet the donor dad because she thinks I'm, oh, because I'm so straight. Yeah. Because I'm going to fall in love with him.

I don't know. But you have a kid together. Yeah. I could see it like, we're a family. We're a family. Exactly. So I'm like, fuck this guy. You know, I don't like, you can't be alone with him either.

It's fucking. No, it's almost like, man. Maybe it wasn't good. He's so hot. Fuck. No, I'm kidding. Like someone ugly or not. Rather have an ugly kid than have me run away with him.

Okay, does the kid have to be 18 to reach out? Or can your kid be 10? No. Okay. Oh, it's 18. 18. Yeah, I had to check both boxes because they reach out at like a certain age. It was a whole thing.

Yeah. Oh, right. Your personal experience. But now we have an extra, we have an embryo. We have a male embryo. Oh. So if, for whatever reason, we decided not to, use him. Right.

Well, that's going to be the Eagles player, so you should... Right. He'll be on the Eagles. Oh, when you say it like that. We could donate that embryo to a couple who can't... They could be adopted. Aw. Okay. Which, if I was like 15 years younger, I would have been, like, creeped out by that,

but now, like, later in life, I'm like, oh, that's actually a really nice thing. Yeah. I wouldn't do that? Would it drive you nuts though, knowing that your son was out there? Yeah. I don't know. And then your daughter's sibling. Have you talked about, like, who's... You're going to be the mom, Taylor Donner. You're going to be the dad. I want to be father.

Yeah, you want to be like on tour. You know it. 20% and 80%. Yes. Absentee father. Is it like, correct. Are you going to change diaper? I will change diapers.

I'm not Donald Trump. Are you going to get a night nurse? Yes. We just found one. Her name is summer. Andrew Collins. Can you imagine? Honestly, with all the cats he's been adopting, he probably would be a great night nurse.

It all comes back to it. Yeah, he got another. We were confused. Texas Sony. Andrew co-host your podcast. Yes. So I have a daily show. It's called Taste of Taylor.

Monday is available for everyone. Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday on Patreon. Patreon.com slash Taste of Taylor. So Andrew is like a regular co-host on the show. Us too now. Yes. I just love him. I can't quit him.

It was such a fun thing to be like, oh, this can, I can just call out. No, I don't like it. No, it's just, it's happened once, but he was like the perfect villain. He was absolutely perfect. He was prepped for a man. I mean, yeah. He always sends stuff. We always sends, yeah.

I said, our snack episodes on Thursday, it's all pop culture. I sent him like a list of articles. He read every one of them. He also is very pop culture savvy. I was shocked by that when we first started doing it. I was like, there's no way. He knows how spies. He doesn't really like watch it, but he knows enough.

He knows the players. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay. So what's next? Raina said opposites attract. I want to talk about your relationship.

So, I mean, we've known both of you for a long time. And Taylor, you're out front. You're doing the live shows. You've gone to Tassi Schroder. You have the podcast. and Taylor Donahue, you're the producer. Like you, none of this exists without you. Like, I asked Taylor struck her questions a lot and she's like, you got to, you got

to ask Taylor Donahue. Well, and you'll even text. We become friends with you later. We were friends with you first for a couple of years even, but you seem like you are the responsive to be in charge of her sometimes. I'll text you guys up. It has to, yeah. I'll text you back from her phone.

Yeah. I'll text you back from her phone. Yang, I want to talk about it. Like, are you so opposite? So opposite. I'm just entertained by her all the time. She's just, I am not, like, attracted to people who look or act like me. Yep. People who are like mellow or like, I don't know. Tall, blonde and hot. Yeah. Yeah. Works for me. You're much quieter than I am, but that doesn't mean that you like don't speak, obviously, as we're seeing. But like, you like, you like to be behind the scenes. You like to be mellow. You like be chill. The thing is that she listens to me talk all day long, but,

like once she's done with the work part, like she needs her quiet time away from me. And I get it. Because it's like a lot to listen to me every day, maybe like two podcasts a day on some days. Yeah. Edit it. Pull video clips. Like I'm like, are you going to get fucking sick of me? And then like I want to talk afterwards and she does need breaks. Like she's like you have to give me some space. Well, you are like a main character energy. And it sounds like you aren't nor do you want to be. And I feel like that's the only way romantic relationships work, not work relationships. Like we've seen this and you sometimes see two main characters come together and it doesn't work out. They're just fighting for the spotlight. Totally. And you still seem Taylor Donnie who like very much in charge, poised, confident.

Like you don't seem like you're a backseat to her. No, but I think, I don't know, there must be like a personality type that's like an observer. Like my whole life I've been kind of just like watching the world like as a kid and even now. And so it's like I just happen to have married an entertainer who I actually. can work with and like observe her and grow our business together so it just happens to like work perfectly. Yeah. But yeah, I just like like that role of listening and like reacting versus just like,

you know what I mean? I think it's your quiet confidence. Like she walks into a room and everybody's just like she's somebody like you're drawn to her. I feel like she was a healer in a former life. You remind me a Shoshan to look through that way. No, I don't have a thing. Totally. It's like like just chill.

Like I come in the room. I'm like, blah. I'm like, look at me, look at me. You know what I mean? So, thank God we're so opposite. Because if there was two of me, I would have drowned myself. It just doesn't work. I mean, it just doesn't work.

We've been seeing it more and more. I'm fascinated by it. Right. Because I think sometimes those types of people are drawn to each other because they're like, we can be a power couple and do this. I don't know. And then you kind of watch them, like Raina said, like fight for the spotlight. Yeah.

Right. The only thing we fight about that I feel like is probably going to be an issue in the future. Oh my gosh. So, you know, we're working on. projects, we're doing tings. I see you becoming more of like a presence in your own right on social media. She's so fucking crazy about pictures. Like she'll post carousels before me and I'm like, my Instagram makes us money.

What, like, would you like to give me some of those pictures? Because I'm so bad. You guys, I'm so bad at social media. And I'm like, help me. And she's like, they're my pictures. It's my carousel. And I'm like, bitch. And I'm like, I'll post a carousel and she'll come downstairs from the office and not talk

to me. I'm like, she's bad at me. That's not true. I yell at you. Wait, no, no. But, you'll be quiet. You want to, she scoops you.

She wants me to make a carousel for her before mine. And you scooped her on the pictures. Or at least, I took them all. Why do you collapse? I just didn't know what she was happening. No, no. I take the pictures.

It's happening right now. For everybody. This is what happens. Zisha, you take them all like I need them. So take them. So give them to me. I will, but I'm going to do mine first just because.

I'm telling you it's a thing. Can you collab? Why do you collab? I don't want to collab on everything. Explain it. No, no, no. Let's break this down. I'm my own person.

This is how she exerts her independence. That's what it is. Her power. She's just like, I work on you all day every day. And photos are my, like, I'm a photographer. Yes. Okay. So it's like, curating a carousel is something I like to do.

Give me something. Listen, it's fine. Once you do your links. Do your links. I will do my links. Sticks to your links. That felt so hurtful. Okay.

Taylor, I would, Taylor Shrher's links. She is my number one. Like, I click her links and, like, give you shop my money. Thank you. Thank you. Every outfit you put on is so cute. I'm like, I must have it.

You walked in here. We're like, where's your shoes from? We're trying. Dolcea. Thank you. Link. Let's like, we'll link it in the episode notes. Co.

There was a couple that fought about this, like a famous couple. And I can't remember. He scooped her on the photos? He was like, he would post photos first. Then she was so pissed. Now I'm dying to know. I know, and I feel like... I do not know.

Although, I'll try to... Posting first is different. Right. Doesn't that different? It's like, how dare you? What right do you have? Like, if Shoshan posted your wedding photos first, would you be like, what? I actually wouldn't care because he's private and not in the...

Right. He can do whatever he wants. But he also probably doesn't. He's not running to his phone. I've got to beat Ashley. Can you imagine? Yeah, he likes that for really posts. Right.

And if he's posting a carousel, I am over his show. What photos are you posting? I have a thing. You respect the, do you respect the, like, she has to look a certain way and every photo? Oh, no, not at all. Now I do. Pull up the fucking picture right now.

And you could show this to everybody. I, we were at Stossie and Bo's wedding in Italy. I officiated. I was just not feeling the best version of myself. She was just like a golden goddess, like she always is. And I got into a fight with her at their wedding, at the table sitting across from them. I looked at my phone and she had posted a fucking picture of me.

You snuck again. I look like, not even, she just posted one picture. I look like a potato bug. I'm like, why wouldn't you fucking ask me? You always look beautiful, but now in retrospect, I know you weren't feeling really great about yourself at a time. No, you have to be honest. It's bad.

You're looking at a blob and a Taylor. I mean, the reason why is that is that Taylor Donahue does, you look like a model. And now I make her leave it up just to prove a point. six foot tall model. It's not, it's horrible. I looked at her and I said,

do you hate me? I think a weird face. It's the angle. Taylor Donahue, you love 12 and 10. I am secondhand mad. Years later about this. It was pre-GLP one.

She wasn't feeling good about herself, but I didn't notice. So the way I'm going to show her that I understood an epitage with all of her feelings that I'm going to pose. It's also like, she looks so good. Like, it's really a lot. I was like, did you only look at yourself?

Like, I went to the bathroom. Like, I was like, When you said blob, I was like, there's no way. And now I'm like, I'm like, blah. I'm so sorry. 81 comments and the caption, my heart, not the caption. Well, it doesn't have anything to do with like weight.

It's just like, you're just a little. It's just a bad angle. It's not a good photo. Well, I said to somebody this morning. I have a different weight in every photo somebody takes of me. It's just the angle just has 100% to do with it. It's just that is so funny. It's like, it reminds me when people post carousels for other people's birthdays.

And like, you're like, happy birthday to my bestie. And it's like, that girl looks good in all the photos. And the bestie looks. like mid. Yeah. That's what she did. You know what she did? I know what it is.

She truly thinks I look exactly the same right now as I did the whole time. That's what it is. Her like, she's blind with love. And so, like, I knew the intent. Intent is important. But I'm like, I know she just like loves me and she thinks we look like very in love in this picture. But like you need to ask photo approval.

Now I do. And my birthday carousals are crazy. But I give it up. But this is what you want as opposed. to the alternative because I feel the same way. Like, I can't believe photos that Shoshan is like, you look so beautiful here. I'm like, that's the worst foot I've ever seen. How can you even say?

What is that? Who is that? And he doesn't see it like that. So that's what you want as opposed to a partner that's like, you don't look good in this. Right, right. You know what? Justice for me. You're Justin Long and I'm Kate Bosworth, which actually is like the greatest compliment

I could ever give my time. What happened with them? Justin Long opposed the most like, like Kate is so beautiful. She couldn't look bad if she'd. tried, but it's always like pictures without makeup on her. She's like smiling like this. But he thinks she like looks so weird. That's like, that's like his Kate. Wait, can I tell you? I don't know. It's sweet. I don't know that there are a couple. And I know every couple. We used to talk about Justin Longtime. I know. I remember what he did. Because I think I

saw him on Ryan and then they started a conversation like, is he hot or not? I feel like that's a real debatable thing. Totally. I think it is too actually. So Kate grew up in my town. So I have an unhealthy obsession with her. She's fully aware of it. And, and I think she was very nice about it, but I think she thinks I'm like, and she's a little right, okay? Yeah, you're like single white female. I would like put her...

Like when Blue Crush came out, I can't even imagine her having like a tie to her. She, so she moved to town when she was in the Horse Whisperer. The Tay was like the actress in town. It was me. It was me. And then I left. And I left to go to all-girl private Catholic school

where I was training to become a lesbian. And... she moved into town and I was like everyone's gonna miss me and they were like Taylor Trucker Who we this girl's hot blonde she was in movies she's legit famous she had been in the horse whisper so she was and like no one gave a shit about me she stole my best friend oh my god she didn't steal him he literally was I mean he was willing ready and able I remember I would call him I was like what do you do he was like he was mad at me that I left so then he was like okay it's coming over to watch Dawson's Creek and I was like I can feel this I hurt I wasn't he was

He weaponized Kate Bosworth against you. He weaponized Kate Bosworth against me. Chris. Shout out to Chris. You trust no Chris. Yeah. We've said trust no Chris for you. Trust no Chris.

And I love him and he's like my favorite person ever. But he tormented me with her. Anyway, it's a long saga and quite frankly, I am. Yeah, but it's one-sided. Tate did a monologue entire podcast by alone talking about Kaye Bosworth. And guess who heard it? Kate Bosworth. Did she reach out?

No. Here's what I know. I know she was made aware of it, as was Justin. I don't know in what capacity they were made aware of it. I don't know if it was like secondhand. I don't know if they sat down and listened. I do know it was sent to them. But I will say the takeaway was very like, oh, wow.

I always thought Tay was like so cool in high school. And like I didn't know she felt this way. So basically like I think she was creeped out, but like in a very nice way of saying. Like basically was like, I always thought Taylor was like cool and pretty. dot dot dot she's media trained i'm like thinking about someone doing this for me and like listening to it it's like i can't even imagine it like because obviously people hated all of us in high school for some reason or another right like i had a girl come to me one time years later at a party and she was like i was running for like school president or whatever and my biggest best sign got ripped down

and stuffed in the trash can it like brought me to tears and i was like who would do that like that's crazy and like years later this girl came up and she was like i did it i was jealous of you and she was like I ripped down your poster and like I'm thinking of like you're so lucky I don't think that I was the villain in anyone's story I just like I don't think I like fuck somebody's boyfriend I probably did no I don't think I really fucked anybody's boyfriend like I want to be the villain in someone's story I want somebody to just like sit up at night thinking about me mad at me looking at my photos like fuck this bitch yeah but that's me I'm the person I want that power over somebody I want to be Kate Bosworth just wishfully unaware

that I'm just really somebody's like I'm saying like I'm the Kate Bosworth like to hear that podcast and like even though I do know like this girl would beef with me but like to listen to that as Kate is just so funny I mean I would hope she would take it as like a compliment I think it was probably also a little scary like I think that that was the whole point of like I thought that she was cool little did I know she's like literally making hair dolls of me and like making them into what is it called zombie dolls what are those called voodoo dolls zombie dogs okay I did have one person it doesn't count as an ex, it's different, but my ex, like, married somebody,

and I was talking to him after that relationship, and he was like, she hated you. We had fights about you, and I was like, oh, so good. Especially because him and I never spoke again after we broke up, so to find out that I was a problem in their relationship. Oh, for sure. I think a lot of people hate him. It's just like, why, Kate, why?

Like, I'm friends with famous people, Kate. I am cool. Like, be my friend. Be my friend, be my friend. I check to see if she follows you, like, she doesn't. Once a month. Also, she's probably, like,

Like, can I stop getting Google alerts of my name with Taylor Shucker talking about me? Because you literally... We're going to put in the episode description. She's getting pinged. Don't you think she should, like, be cooler about it? She should follow you. I really would love to have her on the podcast, but also I would die. Like, I don't think...

What if she rejected them coming on? I mean, she probably would for her own safety. I understand that. She's well worthy, which means I want to like kidnap her, put her in my well, make her put lotion on the skin, does what it's told or else it gets the hose again. All right. Well, now I see why she hasn't reached out. But she said,

but I interview her at serious. I did. And she said we should get in touch. We should say in touch. And Kate gave her email. She's like, DM me. Was it like, hello at Cape Bosworth, too? It wasn't really her email.

First of all, I think that's why I'm so confused. It's been like, it's been, it's really a blue ball situation. Me being the testicles, okay? Like, it's just like, we, she moved to town. She was friends with my best friend. He cut me out. It wasn't her fault. He cut me out.

Then her and I were like together. We were building houses for people in Appalachia. We all smoked one cigarette together. All that. She denies it. It's the truth. But like she was like, we should hang out. And then we were talking about Chris.

And I was like, oh, Chris, I think Chris is like trying to pit us against each other. And she was like, oh, Chris could do that. So then we like kind of were like becoming friendly. And then she was like, my ex-boyfriend really liked you. You should date him. So I did. Wait. And I dated him because I wanted to be friends with her.

You protected like a man. Correct. Just for Kate Bosworth. Correct. You're a lesbian. The kids. This Kate Bosworth lore is like unmatched. It's a saga.

Oh, no. This is honestly crazier than Nikki Glazer and Taylor Swift. Rina, get out of my brain. I was just going to say, why hasn't Taylor Swift addressed Nikki yet? I don't get it because like at this way. It's crazy. Wait, what was the number? Like, Nikki Glazer has spent what?

What was the number? Like, not 50,000. Something insane. Nikki Glazer is the most famous. comedian in the world right now. Like, she's just an S&L. I know, but Taylor Swift would look so cool to acknowledge her. And like, I don't, Nikki told us at Andrew Collins wedding, like, they kind had an opportunity to me, but things went south, whatever. Nothing shady happened. I don't want to speak on these famous people. But like, Taylor should be like, because you know that this would

really make, give me cool, like, cloud. But like she's friends with everybody. That's what I don't understand. Like, every person is in her like press box at the tour and she's so many friends. I know. Like, Nikki Glazer, it's a thing. It's more. How much? much Nikki loves her. But she is the most famous comedian right now. Like, Nikki is not Taylor Swift, but she is on the level. She is. Put her in the box. That would go crazy. She's not in the box. But Taylor's also a grudge holder. So it's like, and Nikki talked about this, right? Yes. Yes. Yes. Where she like, she made fun of Taylor at some point. It was a gillion years ago. Also, who hasn't? Totally. And then what? And then it was, was it Miss Americana?

Yes. Netflix. Nikki was on it or something? No, she, she was like, talking about people talking shit about her. And like in the package, Nikki was one of the people delivering the joke. And Nikki said she wanted to die. She wanted to die when she saw that. She was like, oh my God. And she has profusely apologized.

Yeah. And so she was jealous at the time and stuff. Yeah, we'll look really cool if Taylor were just like, I just, why would you not want to be tied to like the coolest? I know. And it would be such a boss move of Taylor to do. I agree.

Yeah. I'm just, she's friends of people way less famous. She's known for being like the girl. Yeah. She's out of the town. She was in, York all week while Nicky was doing S&L.

She should have been at S&L. It would have been so cool. Now it's blowing my mind even more. It's giving Taylor Swift and like the, you know. It's giving Kate Bosworth and Taylor Shrekker. It's giving Kate Bauer as my point. No offense, Taylor Swift. No, she should have been in S&L.

I know. I know. That would have been the best cameo. There would be no better cameo for Taylor Swift to be at S&M. Instead she went to the corner store. I mean, listen, it's good, but like it's been done. I'm so tired of the photo. I'm just tired of the paparazzi photos.

It's nothing against her. I'm just tired of them. Like when she was out with Travis every night, I liked it. Yeah. And now I'm just over. Besides the one of her with Sabrina Carpenter, look like me in Raina. Oh my God.

Literally, but let the two of us. Literally. Taylor is also in the forefront so she looks even tall. Her shoes are this big inch heels. The dumbest outfit is for always, but those shoes were great. Sabrina Carpenter is this little thimble.

She's wearing near her. Kitchen heels. Kitchen heels. I know. Taylor Swift has six inch. our heels on. Yeah. It's crazy.

Kate, if you're listening. And we think you can be friends with like Taylor. Please God, Kate. I'm so sorry if you're listening. I have profusely apologize. It's just going. There's too many ups and down.

Like I remember when I was at serious, I was like, you guys don't understand the amount of dreams I've had about Kate. And like meeting Kate and hanging out with Kate and being friends with Kate. It's really crazy. The way that this started and I thought it was going to be like a quick little. Like we're from the same town. An anecdote.

And I thought we were going to move on. This is the best. But does she know that your friend, Taylor, Your friends are like a lot of famous people. I know. I remember she was like hanging out with Lala for a little bit because Randall, she like was like, he was a movie producer. They worked and I was like,

and I was like, if she's going to hang out with Randall and she's hanging with Lala and then Lala's friends with Stasi and then Stasi who becomes friend and the movie friends? Like I was like, it's going to happen. Kay doesn't follow any of the famous people Taze friends with. Yeah. I check. Yeah.

But she has to listen to like, I mean, you're checking the Instagram too. This is a science. This is part of my job. But we like, okay, we came to the relaunch of your podcast. It was Tanner Burnery. It was Tinks. It was the toast girls. I mean, it was a who's who of media.

Yes. Yes. You guys had the McMahon. Yes. Yes. But yes, Kate Bosworth, like, she's been around. Yes. She's got it.

She's a name. But those women are like more of it girls at the moment. And those are all who you surround yourself with. Like Kate, I'm cool. Cool people like me. We literally. I'm going to bring this up in therapy. I'm surprised we haven't talked about it yet.

We literally, though. So she finally came to serious to promote. a movie. She was with her ex-husband Michael Polis. It was a movie they did together. And I'm like, oh my God. And I'm like, there's no way she's going to do my show. Because if she knows how psycho I am, she's going to avoid me. She does a show. I'm like, coming in. I'm like, is she going to remember me? I came in and it was like, we were best friends. Like it was like, oh my God, and this that and the other. And we took a picture together and she like put my head against her shoulder and like held it like my mother. This is insane. And I was like, oh my God,

this is it. We're going to get to be friends again kind of who never were. And then gave me her email. Like this is, I get there and then you have to want it a little less. And listen, we all want to make you out of the tube. No, let I just explain to you how like people work. It's hard to manufacture, but you have to play hard to get. We're too far down the road. You just said I want her in my well. But like I don't, listen, I think that like, I don't know.

What's a metaphor for it? You've already rung the bell. Okay, you can't unring it. Yeah, you can't unring it. You have to want this less. That's the only road to Kate. I want it. I want it none.

Right now just like Tony Robbins Jew I don't know what just happened Her tone changed I was saying that's how you get a man Like you can't like a man Totally communicate that to a man That man will never like you

Also the fact that I'm an out And proud queer woman now Like she's like So she's been in love with me Oh okay there's that But also like I was on Netflix the other day And I was just like clicking through And I just like happened to stop on something random

And I wasn't paying attention And I stopped on Blue Crush And all I hear is takeo Are you fucking serious? Oh, you can't play in the house? Are you trying to hurt me? I think next year for Halloween I'm going to be Kate and Blue Crush. Get the contact.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. One blue contact. No, that's her real eyes. I know. You would have to do it. Sorry. I'm the number one fan of her fan. You have to act like you don't care and you don't know.

Okay, you don't know anything about her eyes. No, and you guys. Chris is still my best friend and he is still her best friend. Right. She really doesn't want to be your friend. Yes. All right. So we wanted to move on.

This topic, I feel like is perfect because we're talking about you and all your, all your famous friends, not including Kate. I'll take this one day. Raina Kintech and Truz. Well, you said this thing. We did this great. We did Lady World, Lady Gang together in Florida. And you came with Stasi.

And we keep saying this, but you're the godmothers, right? Of her child, of her children, her little boy is our God baby. Yes. Okay. And you said this thing to me and you said I'm the number one, number two. And you say it was like your whole chest with like so much confidence. and I think some people like always kind of feel like I'm the sidekick. I have to claim it.

You know what I mean? I also am like a big fan of saying things before other people get to say them. Right? So I'm like I am a professional social climber. That is like what I do. I can't get over Kate because she was my first failed attempt. But whatever, let's keep it moving. Stasi's my best friend, Claudia Oshery's, another one of my best friends.

Like these women are powerhouses. Hannah Burner. Like I. You guys. You guys. You weren't going to mention it. but Taylor Donah, who did? Well, I'm thinking of an individual person.

Because they're two. You know what I mean? They're bigger. We get. But like, okay, I know what it is. My best friend from college, Nicole, she works at Sirius still. I got my job because of her. And I got the gig and she actually didn't get the gig.

She still was like at reception for a while. And then now she's like on the radio. She's still there. She didn't get fired from Sirius. So she started getting a lot of opportunities. And as best friends, she wasn't jealous of me when I got the gig and she didn't. So I wanted to always like pay it back to her and like be happy for her. But she got to go and like Chelsea.

Handler, like big things that I was like, oh, I'm jealous, but like, I'm going to be happy. Yeah. So I train myself, it's like way better to be happy for somebody than to be jealous of them. But maybe I've taken that a little too far and like made an identity. I think it's amazing. I think that you've surrounded, you both have surrounded yourself, but incredibly talented, amazing women. And I think that you want to support them and uplift them.

And they do the same for you also. Like, you're right there with them. But you just, you feel like empowered by being in the presence of other amazing women. Yes. But that's an interesting thing you said. That's really like vulnerable to share. Yeah. Because I think it's like a human thing.

Like everyone has jealousy. I want what she has or he has. We talk about this all the time. And you have to kind of curate your social media follows and things like that. And just take care of yourself when it comes to that. Because I think it's like just such a human nature. But you're saying you like maybe overcorrected a little. And I fought against it for a long time because I was like you should be the star of your own show.

You should be the number one. And it took me a while to realize that because she is saying this, it doesn't mean she wants any less. Yeah. She doesn't not want to do things because you think you're number two. It's just sort of like a narrative you play. It's like a schick that you have. But I mean it. I know you mean it.

I'm like proud of myself. But you know. You really are like a hype girl. Like you really. She's like the best friend you could have. She's like the most loyal, uplifting, self-deprecating friends you can have. Yeah. But I just like to see other people win.

But I think that maybe, yeah. Maybe there's a little overcorrection. Like I'm too comfortable in the number two spot. And like I need to like see myself as main character energy too. So it's something I'm actively working on. Like I think some people really want to be the best. Like the number one. Yes.

I don't need it. I don't need to be that I'm not. I will stop it nothing till I'm the most whatever. Like I would just want to be in the top and be doing well. And then half these, all these other things in my life that are really great that not everybody has, whether it's like friendships or. marriage, family, all these things, I want to have a really impressive career and I want to feel like I am accomplished, but I don't need like the number one. I think some people are really

driven by that. I think it will stop at nothing. So I just don't think of you like that. But I think you're also still a really driven, ambitious woman and you want these things like we all do. Yeah, totally. And I think of you as a star. Thank you. Like you are like such a star in your own right and you are able to like give other people their flowers and be a part of their success and be such a powerhouse in your own right. And you have to like almost remind yourself like all of these people wouldn't want to be around me if I wasn't so also impressive and amazing and incredible. Thank you. But you're like an OG too. It is a weird thing like because like Stasi will be like I got into podcast because of you. Hannah's like you were the first person that I like learned about

podcast. I came on your radio show and I was like that I want to be her. It's so crazy. It feels like that was like a different life back and serious. Yeah. How long was it? My God. 2017. I did this thing with Bravo. They like sent me to do it. I remember. I was Cheech set it up. Cheech, it all comes back to Cheech. She was doing to Cheech. Yeah, yeah. But it's interesting when you do see people who are real pioneers in this, in a space,

and then it feels like they get surpassed. That's totally, I always say I'm like, what am I doing wrong? Everybody is like flying by me. You guys, truthfully, Stasi. No, no, no, no, no. I'm serious, though. It's like, I'm proud that I've been in this business for so long. It's going to be 20 years.

March of 2006. I'll have been in this industry for 20 years. And it's like, I'm proud of that but then I'm also like, God, should I be embarrassed? Should I be like further along?

Do you know what I mean? And then I think about Jennifer Coolidge and I'm like, that's my trajectory. But it definitely... We're playing the long game. I guess. No, but you also operated

coming from a place of fear for 15 years of your career. I will. And it's only until the last few years that you're like, okay, I'm not scared of doing X, Y, and Z. I think being at serious

gave me a great platform, but it held me back for a long time. I mean, they fired me, so it felt like I chose to leave, but it was the best thing that they could have ever done because it forced me to go out of my own. So I guess if you take the 12 years that I was at serious, I've been in this business for eight years as like a solo entity. So fine, fine, fine, eight years. I like that better. You're new. You're green. I'm a baby. I'm just a little baby. I'm an infant. No, but I guess to my point, like, I think people who are real OGs in any industry, like always command respect. And I just think of you like that and you've had longevity. Thank you. See, it's, it's all perspective, right? Yeah. Yeah. I don't know the backstores of all these

people that you're friends with. But like, you have a 10 year long relationship. You have all these friendships. I mean, to Ashley's point, like, there are other things that you have done with your life and gotten that other people could never even imagine doing such a thing. I mean, to go to your podcast release party, really, and to see the room of people that showed up for you. I mean, people would die to have those type of genuine love and connections in a room people showing up for them. None of those people needed to come. Those are all really successful people and everyone wanted to show up and show out for you. Yes. But then even seeing the parties you guys host at your house. Like you guys are just real people. Like we say this all the time. You meet so many

fake people in this industry and you guys are like real ones. You live a real life. You're runs with real people who aren't famous too. Right. You know, it's even seen like every single time you guys have a party, we are invited. and like we haven't been able to come. And I'm just like watching like, I just want to be there. Like doing karaoke or whatever the fuck you guys are doing. Oh my God, until like four o'clock in the morning. It's just like you're so loved.

We are rich in friends, in friendships. Yes. Yes. We are. Famous, not famous. Yeah. Both. Yeah.

Yeah. Oh my God. This is like so much fun. Kate, I hope you're listening now. Wait, hold on. Who was at the party that we were like, oh, my God. Anedelvie. Anadelvie.

Yes. Insane. Yeah. That's through Kelly Catrone. I think so much FOMO when you guys have these parties. Oh, you have to come. Once little girls here, we'll get back on the party train. When we talk about moving back, I talk about moving into your neighborhood.

I want to talk more about it. We have quarterly parties. No, can you just start sending her listings of stuff that you see? Literally. Because I'm going to be back there. So Ashley's just got to come. Come on. I have like a husband.

He has a job. He wants to come too. Him and I are moving back. All right. We'll work on him. Well, we love you guys so much. We actually have to wrap because the Eagles game starts in a few minutes. And we got to go watch.

And then you guys are sleeping over my house if you want to be closer to your hair salon in the morning. The traffic is no joke. It's like it. It'll save us an hour in the morning. I get it. Right? I love that you guys are sleeping over. Should we sleep over?

Yes. Please. Also, if you guys want my king size bed, you can have it also. Oh my God. You are so sweet. Absolutely not. No way. I was going to give you the king.

No, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, it's fine. Taylor's going to be in that bed. No, I might sleep in the bed. You should take her room. it's really stunning. No. I would be so mad if somebody

just take the room. We'll negotiate. Four of me could fit in my bed. And there's three of you. Well, but it's like a hotel room. Just dig. You just do it.

I'll show you. Listen, you'll stay. Okay. Can we watch Blue Crush together? You know what's very funny is there's like naked pictures of Raina in her all around her house, but in your bedroom. That's where they are in my bedroom?

And Shishang was up there one day and he was like, where can I look? Rain is naked over here. He was literally sitting on the couch. Just sitting there at the floor. Where are there. It's a lot. Tasteful nudity. Yeah.

It's tasteful. But, you know, it's my nipple. All right. Well, we have to go watch the Eagles game. Where can everybody find you guys, listen to your show? Look at Taylor Donnie, who's Instagram. Okay. Check out my carousel.

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